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how many hours of labor should it take for a shop to R&R rocker panels?
Im looking to resolve some rust issues on my 1980 SC. Typical rocker-rust, and, replacing the section of front body panel that the bumper shock mount is attached to. Over the last couple of months I have purchased all the panels needed. Inner/outer rockers, door latch panel, kidneys, and front corners cut off another car.
Because I have been thinking of doing the repair work myself, I have taken a 72hr welding class in preparation for this. Looking for options because time and experience are an issue, I went out to talk to a reputable restoration shop in my area. They can do the work, and, keep track of time spent working on the car via a punch clock. They charge $80 hr when working on antiques.
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If I go with the shop how long should it take to replace the inner/outer, door latch, kidney if done by a professional shop and they dont run in to problems. A simple cut it out / weld it in scenario completed so its ready for paint. Im looking for a baseline labor cost.
I will remove the A/C lines, oil cooler lines, peel back the interior etc, Ill do what I can to make their job easier.
For a labor reference point, they cut and weld, prep for paint, thats it.
The same for the bumper mounts. I remove bumper, fenders, window washer, oil cooler, horn assembly, etc, they cut and weld.
I may still attempt it myself, Ive taken the welding class but when it comes to the actual chop, cut, rebuild Im getting cold feet. I would like to weigh the cash layout against the stress factor of doing it my self. My cash reserves are a bit more flexible than my stress level right now.
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Both sides of the front end look like this.
The rust on the passenger side is much worse than the drivers side.
OK guys, what are your estimates for labor, in hours, not dollars.
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Im doing a front right corner just like your piece at the shop right now and I think the book time was @ 10-12 hours, so in your case, doing both sides, I would say 18 -22 hours or so for the front pieces with you taking off all the parts you mentioned.
dont know about the rest, but i can look in the book later this week if no one else answers.
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Snake is on the money, AFAIC.
AFA the sills, I say 8 hours per side for the inner and outer rocker.
Here's the twist: you have to take to doors off to get at things, but you need to doors back on to align that sill piece to the bottom of the door. The kidneys are no fun at all. I've done it twice and used 2 different approaches. My log says I spent about 6 hours a side on those alone.
You will probably need to buy a R and L dogleg from Stoddards. Maybe not, I can't see in your pics that well.
I formed that one, but then I found out here that you can buy it.
That would have been my guess @ 10 hours +/- a little for a professional.
Would you say this is a fairly straight forward Cut, remove, replace, procedure for the DIY-er?
Looking at the first picture would you cut the top edge along the red line or cut below the lip along the blue line to maintain that original metal for fit.
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Hey milt, I was following your post on gas welding, very cool.
The dogleg you mentioned looks like it fits over the jack tube. That area looks pretty good on my car. I'll go out a take a picture.
Actually there seems to be a little surface rust but when I have jacked the car up recently using the jack post it hasn't seemed to move. I checked it last time and the door opened OK so hopefully the tube is not bent.
Looking at some of the other threads I would have never thought that the Kidney would be so difficult. I realize that a portion of the rear quarter needs to be cut to gain access. Is that where the dogleg comes in ?
What is the hardest part of that process?
I like the thought of some one else doing the work, but at the same time I'd like to be able to say " I did it".
After I get some idea from the forum on the labor cost I may go "up north" to Wilmington DE, and speak to another shop.
I need to decide soon who or where the work will be done. Rust waits for no one.
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i thought you were replacing the whole piece in the picture. For just the bumper support, i would go with the blue line. Cut the original one as low as you can to aviod the rust, and cut the new one 1/4 more so you have some overlap. DOnt try to butt them together. It does look like the rust goes up almost to the fender on the first pic, so you may have to go with the red line, but will be a little harder as the area in the front where it connects to the center header panel is going to be difficult.
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When working on our own cars, hours are inconsequential. Shops are there to make a profit, and the extra hours I spent on my car, no shop would replicate in their right minds. Not that all shops do shoddy work, rather once you open up the rockers, you see other things you should do "while you are in there". Things such as spraying rust solvent in the channels, washing them out, and painting all the normally unaccessable areas with POR 15. Also you may find other small rust areas that you should cut out and fabricate a piece to fit and weld. Key is "No Fear". You end up learning a great deal as you go, and this and other forums are loaded with guys that have gone down this same road that would be more than willing to help you out. PM me with you e-mail and I'll walk you through. Take the plunge, Good luck, Allan PS, try to get NOS OEM parts if possible, the repros will need some pounding and trimming to fit correctly. The dog leg repo was so bad, I ended up taking a flat sheet (like Milt) and hammered it into shape which worked out much better. Just go slow and it'll be fine.
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___ If you are planning to live on base at your new station, provide the Housing Office with 2 copies of your orders and complete an advanced application for housing. They will forward your application to your next station, where that Housing Office will place you on their waiting list with an application date of the first day of the month prior to the month you will be arriving.
___ If you intend to rent or buy a house at your new duty station, contact that base's Housing Office for information on available real estate and area information. For the DSN (Defense Switch Network-military phone line) number of the gaining base's Housing Office, call WPAFB Housing Office, 257-6547.
___ If the military member is going on a remote tour, you will need to decide where the family will be residing until the sponsor returns. Visit the AFRC to receive valuable information for the family and to check into an available support group for waiting spouses/families.
___ Schedule a house-hunting trip. Commanders may permit up to 10 days permissive TDY (no cost to the government) to locate and secure housing at your new station. If you go house-hunting without the family, take lots of pictures, and pick up maps, brochures and flyers to share with them. This will give them the chance to visualize the new home more realistically with fewer fantasies and misconceptions. The children may be interested in the styles of clothes the kids wear, number of kids in the neighborhood around their age, information on the school they will be attending, and popular activities nearby.
___ Start cleaning out junk drawers and closets. Plan for a garage sale. Take items to the Thrift Shop.
___ Dental care - complete final examinations and work.
___ Eye care - Complete final examination and work.
___ Check your home owners or renters insurance to determine the scope of transit coverage. Some policies will only cover one specified location. In others, 100 percent coverage expires after 30 days. Some only cover major perils and not "rough handling or mysterious disappearance". If you are not sure, check with your agent.
___ Contact the Legal Office to complete a Will or Power of Attorney if necessary. Call 257-6142 for the scheduled days and hours for the type of service you need to receive. You may desire a "General Power of Attorney" which will give your designee unlimited authorization. Or you may desire a "Limited Power of Attorney" which will give your designee specific authorization to take care of the following:
___ Buying or selling a house
___ Shipment of household goods
___ Shipment or registration of a vehicle
___ Child care
___ Medical authorization
___ Arrangement for termination or assignment to government quarters
___ Contact your financial institution regarding their policy on spouses taking care of certain financial matters in the absence of the active duty member (i.e. cashing government check, tax refund, etc.).
___ Military Pay - A Power Of Attorney will only allow the holder to obtain information about the members pay account and change an address for the LES and net pay advice.
___ Prepare a general inventory by room, closet, attic, garage, etc., of all household and personal possessions, both for your own use, and so that you will be able to make an accurate estimate of their value for insurance purposes. Take pictures/video tape of high value items and record their make, model and serial numbers. Remember to include books, pictures, silver, china, glassware, linens, clothing, tools, sports and hobby equipment, musical instruments, and cameras, as well as furniture, lamps, rugs, curtains, etc.
___ Assist the children in the inventory of their rooms. Talk with them about the small toy or game to take in their suitcase and help them decide which ones to ship with the household goods.
___ Survey your possessions so that you can have items repaired and cleaned that you plan to put into storage or ship to your overseas location.
___ Obtain a written appraisal for valuable items such as antiques, jewelry, furs and paintings. To obtain an appraisal, check with a professional who deals in the kind of valuables you have.
___ Use a video camera to record the condition of household furnishings and appliances. Electrical equipment should be recorded while operating (i.e. TV on, stereo playing, microwave in use).
___ If you are making a Do-It-Yourself (DITY) move, contact the rental company and arrange to lease a truck. Have an estimated weight of your shipment so they can help you rent the right size truck. If you plan on using a trailer, check the compatibility of trailer hitches with your vehicle. Remember, YOU MUST CONTACT TMO TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DITY PROGRAM.
___ Keep cleaning and sorting. Remember charitable organizations such as the Junior Enlisted Member (JEM) closet. Keep receipts for tax time.
___ Use up things you can't move, such as food, cleaning supplies and flammable items.
___ Update and renew as necessary all driver's licenses and I.D. cards
___ Arrange for absentee voting ballot or obtain the address where you can write for ballots.
___ Keep talking about the move with your family. Honesty is essential. Children, as well as adults, need time to deal with feelings of loss and separation.
___ Make a list of everyone who needs to know your new address.
___ Auto Insurance Company
___ Friends and family
___ Creditors
___ Subscriptions
___ Doctors and dentists
___ Post Office
___ Department of Motor Vehicles/Revenue Department
___ Bank
___ Investment firms
___ Federal and State income tax offices
___ Obtain a change of address kit (for Dorms & General Delivery) from the Postal Service Center (PSC) and fill out the cards. You may need to do this twice if using temporary quarters at the next base. Postage can be paid for up to twenty change of address cards for all areas listed above except for friends and family. Bring a copy of your orders and change of address cards to the PSC located in Kittyhawk Area, Bldg 1044, 257-6523. Regular Post Office number is 257-4458.
___ Establish a bank account at the new base. You can do this by mail or by phone normally.
___ Obtain the address to write to for state income tax forms and information. Unless your new station is within the state you pay taxes, it may be difficult for you to obtain the necessary forms.
___ DITY movers should start packing those items that are not used on a frequent basis. Remember to mark boxes as to their content and in which room it belongs.
___ Plan for plants. Plants do not travel well and are not allowed overseas and many states have restrictions. Sell them at a garage sale or use as "thank you's" to friends.
___ Use up your chemical cleaners, solvents, paint, etc. These materials should not be poured down the drain. Dispose of them properly or give them to your neighbors if you have no further use for them. You can also take them to the Recycling Center (call 74889) or Waste Management (call 77152.)
___ Determine how much money you will be required to have on hand when you arrive at your next duty station. You will need sufficient funds for housing, utilities, food, temporary lodging, etc.
___ Have a going away party for the children, and another for yourself and friends. Help the children assemble a list of addresses and phone numbers of their friends so they may keep in touch.
___ Plan vacation time or do some sightseeing along your route of travel to make the move more exciting. Write tourist agencies and the National Park Service to find out what there is to see along the way or access the internet. If you are a member of AAA Auto Club, they will provide information free.
___ Call the Accounting & Finance Office (257-3202) at least 30 days prior to your out-processing to set up a PCS out pay and travel briefing. An appointment is needed. Bring five copies of your orders to the briefing. Up to three months advanced pay may be authorized. Check with the travel pay section concerning details and other benefits for which you may be entitled. Be sure of your mode of travel (car, airplane) when discussing advanced travel to avoid over payment.
___ Contact your Relocation Manager at Outbound Assignments to make an appointment for final out-process. Double check on what you will have to bring with you for your appointment. You should have your flight dates (port call) by now, if not, contact your outbound agents.
___ Advance Travel Pay may be requested 20 days prior to your PCS, however, it cannot be paid until 10 days prior to the move.
___ Notify utilities and home services of disconnect dates.
___ Electric
___ Gas
___ Water/Sewer
___ Garbage
___ Telephone
___ Cable TV
___ Newspaper
___ Arrange for closure or transfer of charge accounts.
___ Account ___________________ With ___________________
___ Account ___________________ With ___________________
___ Account ___________________ With ___________________
___ Account ___________________ With ___________________
___ Account ___________________ With ___________________
___ Check bank procedures for transferring funds or closing the account. Get a letter of credit or have enough cash available for the new location for deposits, rent, etc. DO NOT close out your present bank account (if changing direct deposit) until your pay has changed to your new bank.
___ Obtain a map. Discuss with the family where you are going, when you will be leaving, how long it will take and where to stop along the way.
___ Ten days prior to out-processing, check with Military Personnel Flight (MPF). If you are flying, you will be instructed to pick up tickets no later than three days prior to your last day of out-processing.
___ BE AWARE OF MOVING STRESS ON THE FAMILY. Are any family members showing signs of tension? (Snappiness, shock, irritable, rapid mood swings, depression, withdrawn, lack of interest in participating in activities with friends and family, etc.) This is normal. Be patient. If the stress is getting out of hand, call or visit the Base Health & Wellness Center, AFRC or Family Advocacy to get help or call 257-9896, 257-3592, or 257-4608 respectively.
___ Verify pickup schedules on household goods and hold baggage with TMO.
___ Retrieve items from the cleaners.
___ Empty and close-out safety deposit box.
___ Have the car serviced/tuned up for the trip. Check oil, water, battery, belts, hoses, brakes, tires, and all fluid levels.
___ Return borrowed items and library books. Collect items you have loaned out.
___ Take pets to the vet for required vaccinations and certificates. Get copies of their medical records.
___ Prepare to get the house cleaned for inspection.
___ Obtain copies of civilian medical, dental and school records.
___ Check luggage and make necessary repairs. Check the locks and make sure you have more than one key for each piece.
___ Purchase new luggage as needed. Buy lightweight, but durable pieces; remember they will probably travel half way around the world.
___ Make necessary travel arrangements, motel reservations, etc. Visit Passenger Travel Section of TMO if travel is via air.
___ If you are renting your home to someone while PCS, check on your insurance coverage with your agent. Explain to the renter exactly what your insurance covers for the house, and that the renter is responsible for their own renters insurance to cover personal liability and the protection of their personal household goods.
___ If you requested advance travel pay, remember to finalize any arrangements. This money can be sent directly to your bank, with the use of a deposit slip from the back of your checkbook.
___ Settle your outstanding bills.
___ Drain any used oil from your lawn mower and other power equipment and take in a suitable container to the Recycling Center (Bldg 293 & 866, Area A, 257-4889) for proper disposal.
___ Contact the Waste Management Branch (257-7152) to find out where to properly dispose of any flammable/hazardous waste (i.e. weed killers, paints, turpentine, solvents, aerosols, cleaning products, anti-freeze, etc.)
___ Obtain travelers checks for trip expenses.
___ Take down curtains, rods, shelves, the TV antenna, etc., that will be shipped. Remove items from attics, crawl spaces, or similar storage areas. It is your responsibility to make these items accessible to the movers.
___ Cancel your newspaper subscription.
___ Pick up medical records. Personnel must first drop off copy of orders.
___ Unless you have an Authorization of Release, the sponsor cannot pick up the medical records of his/her spouse or dependents age 18 years or older.
___ Active duty - Bring one copy of your orders to Medical Records. The records will be given to you to hand carry to your next base (MPF will place records in a sealed envelope).
___ Pediatric Records will be mailed to next duty station after member drops off orders.
___ Pick up dental records on the second floor of the Dental Clinic.
___ Arrange child care for packing and moving day. Call the Child Development Center to check on drop in child care or Family Day Care Homes availability. Shot records and birth certificates are required so keep these items accessible during the packing process (Family Records File). Also, Childcare for PCS is available for both departing and arriving families. Authorized users can apply for 20 hours of free childcare upon their arrival and or departure from Wright-Patt.
___ An AF Form 2606, Request for Child Care, may be completed and sent to the Child Development Center at your new duty station in advance of your arrival. This will give the new Child Development Center advance notice of your anticipated need for child care, and place you on the waiting list, if appropriate.
___ Keep listening carefully to your children's questions. Give them frequent reassurance; children need the security you provide when the security of a home is diminishing.
___ Double check your FAMILY RECORDS FILE and place it in a briefcase for hand-carrying.
___ Copies of your orders
___ Duplicates of your luggage/car/other important keys
___ Home inventory/video tape/snapshots/appraisals/receipts of household goods
___ Off base medical, dental and school records
___ Phone numbers of family and friends
___ Extra set(s) of checks from your checking account
___ Before the movers arrive to pack your possessions for shipment and/or storage, disconnect all major appliances (stove, refrigerator, washer, dryer, etc.). Empty the refrigerator so it can dry at least 24 hours before the movers arrive.
___ Dismantle any electronic equipment, outdoor play equipment, etc.
___ Audio and video equipment and personal computers require special attention. Always consult your owner's manual for specific instructions.
___ Use tape to code wiring for easier reinstallation.
___ Clean VCR heads before use in your new home.
___ Remove pictures and mirrors from walls and group together.
___ Place valuables, cash or jewelry, purses, and FAMILY RECORDS FILE in a safe, inaccessible (to packers) place (lock in car trunk).
___ Place all high value collectibles, such as Lladros, Hummels, Bossons, Precious Moments, etc., in one central location or if available the original boxes. This enables you to observe the packing and ensure the items are packed carefully and properly.
___ Separate items into "Hand Carried and Luggage", "Hold Baggage", "Storage", "Shipment" and "Professional" categories.
___ Give a copy of your travel plans with date, route, and phone numbers to your supervisor, orderly room, sponsor, relatives, etc.
___ Allow children to choose one small toy/book/game for carry on luggage, one for suitcase, and several small pieces for hold-baggage. They may even wish to pack one box of non-breakable items. They may put their name and draw a picture on the side of the box to feel a part of the move.
___ Ship by "Unaccompanied Baggage" for overseas tour, items that will enable you to set up light housekeeping once at your new base since it might be 1- 4 months before your surface shipment arrives. Suggested items: iron, dishes, silverware, microwave, toaster, coffee pot, linens, bedding materials, clothing appropriate to climate changes over several months, a few of the kids favorite toys, a telephone, etc.
___ If traveling within the US (CONUS), keep out of your shipment, for use both before departure and after arrival at your new base, items such as sleeping bags, coffee pot, cooking utensils, silverware, dishes, an alarm clock, a telephone, night-light, uniforms, etc. Family Services does have many of these things in their Loan Closet, but they will be in high demand with all those PCSing.
___ Make sure all dishes and utensils are clean and all trash has been removed from your home. PACKERS WILL PACK EVERYTHING IN THE CONDITION IT IS IN!!
___ Pack a "moving day needs" box with cleaning supplies, sponges, paper towels, toilet and facial tissue, bath towels, bath soap, shampoo, can opener, paper plates, napkins, plastic eating utensils, snacks, coffee, tea, sodas, light bulbs, scissors, hammer and trash bags. PLACE WHERE PACKERS WILL NOT PACK IT!!
___ Check with MPF to make sure all your records are there for the final out-processing appointment. If you are flying, pick up your tickets at TMO Passenger Travel.
___ Drop kids off for childcare. Place pets in a safe place.
___ Watch the packers very carefully to see that they understand and know exactly which items are to be packed. You can indicate this by putting different colored stickers on each item or separate the items by rooms.
___ You may wish to keep a record of the contents of each carton being packed. This may make it easier to locate specific items upon their arrival at your next base. If any cartons are missing, it will be possible to determine quickly what is missing. (NOTE: The packers do move fast. You cannot hold up the packers while accomplishing this list.)
___ Read all packing documents prior to signing.
___ Check to see that the condition of your possessions are correctly reflected on the inventory. The exact location of existing scratches, worn or marred places should be clearly indicated.
___ Be certain that every container or crated item has the moving company's inventory tag or tape on it and that each item has been listed on the moving company's inventory.
___ Watch the packing of the wood and metal crates used for sea shipments. This is done by lift vans at your doorstep. Be sure everything is protected against slippage, concussions and friction. The heaviest items should be at the bottom of the van.
___ Mirrors, paintings and other items easily damaged or broken should be packed by the moving company personnel.
___ Have your vacuum ready to clean bed rails, piano backs and other hard-to-move-items. REMINDER: Remove vacuum bag before loading.
___ Pack your phone book. It may be helpful for names or addresses later.
___ Be sure your copy of the moving company's inventory is legible. (This inventory will not be as detailed as the one you made earlier.)
___ Place a copy of the packer's inventory, stored possessions, baggage receipts in the FAMILY RECORDS FILE.
___ If you live in on-base housing, prepare for your final inspection by using the cleaning checklist provided by the Housing Management Office. If you live off-base, clean your rental unit using instructions provided by your landlord and arrange for your check-out inspection.
___ Observe the packer who is preparing the inventory. Make sure the codes he/she is placing next to the furniture item describes the pre-existing damage. Are the descriptions accurate? Have the writer show you the damage and, if it exists, annotate the extent of damage (small, minute, medium, etc.).
___ Before leaving the house, check each room and closet, make sure windows are closed and locked, lights are out and exterior doors are locked.
___ Before signing the inventory, READ IT CAREFULLY. Are all your items listed accurately? Does there appear to be excessive pre-existing damages listed? Make sure your inventory specifically lists computers, TVs, VCRs, stereo components, and associated tapes, CDs and software.
If you disagree with any description on the inventory annotate in the remarks section on the page where the conflict is. If an item is not listed that you feel should be, annotate in the remarks section. When you sign the inventory, you are stating that you agree with everything that is written on it.
___ SMILE!!! You have done a superb job of getting organized!!!
___ Keep a log of all moving expenses as they occur. This will be helpful at tax time. Keep all receipts. If not needed, you can discard later.
If you and your family are traveling separately, keep two logs. Include these items:
___ Rental cars ___ Meals
___ Air/Bus/Rail fares ___ Rent deposits
___ Gasoline receipts ___ Utility deposits
___ Accurate mileage records ___ Installation charges
___ While traveling, billeting is available at many military installations on a space available basis. If billeting is not available have a back up alternative.
___ Let each day flow with the daily plan.
___ INFANTS have few concerns outside their immediate environment. They take their "cues" from you (are you angry and frustrated or relaxed and content?).
___ YOUNG CHILDREN do best when kept on the same eating and sleeping routine. Introduce new sights and sounds with patience.
___ ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN may be losing their first friends. Allow for expressions of grief in daily decisions.
___ Hints for traveling with children:
___ Young children have a natural wariness of the unknown. Including them in the planning can help allay fears.
___ Stick to your child's usual bedtime and mealtimes, and read his or her favorite story. Unpack the minute you arrive so everyone feels at home.
___ Balance your day, making plenty of time for a romp in the park or other relaxing activities. Even when having fun, children have a limited attention span.
___ Call ahead to confirm hotel/motel services for children, such as cribs and/or cots.
___ Packing pointers: Take one small bag per person. Let each child take only one special toy. Don't forget a first-aid kit, with disinfectant, band-aids, etc. Tuck in a nylon folding suitcase - great for lugging home your souvenirs or dirty laundry.
___ Upon arrival at your new station, check with the Housing Office before you rent, lease, or buy a home. Their office will provide you with information on rental agreements, housing restrictions, military clause contracts, and hints on buying and inspecting a new home. This is one of the most important stops. You and your spouse should both attend.
___ Contact the destination TMO as soon as possible to let them know you are in the area. Provide instructions for your household goods and give a good contact number.
___ Visit Family Services for loan closet needs.
___ Check in at the Postal Service Center (PSC) window to complete AF Form 624, Base/Unit Locator and PCS Directory. Mail is held 15 days past the Report Not Later Than Date (RNLTD) unless you process through PSC. Provide names of all dependents.
___ You will be given a mandatory appointment to attend "Newcomers Orientation" as you in-process through the MPF Office. Your spouse is also invited and strongly encouraged to attend the orientation. Take advantage of Welcome Packages; visit the Chamber of Commerce; visit the AFRC and Services facilities; tour your new base.
___ Have a diagram of your new home. Sketch what furniture goes where. List what boxes go into which room. Put a diagram on the door of each room.
___ Make arrangements for child care for the day your household goods will be delivered. Use the Child Care for PCS program. Ask your AFRC about it. It is free!!
___ Try to be your moving company's first customer of the day. Generally the movers are more careful in the morning than later in the day when they are tired and in a hurry. Their regular work hours are 0800-1700.
___ Take off the front door. Normally you can just remove the pins from the hinges. This makes for much easier access and reduces the potential for scratched and marked furniture.
___ Have someone (a mature child might do) check off the inventory items as they are unloaded. Set this individual between the truck and the house in a chair with a clipboard. Have the movers call off each inventory number as it's unloaded.
___ Movers have been paid to unpack everything. Don't let them fluster you. However, if your move is going well you may not want them to totally unpack all the dish-packs. You can sign the contract with a statement that says "exception of damage to concealed goods". You can claim damage noted after the movers have left. You can also ask the manager if they can come back in a couple of days to unpack. Work this arrangement out with the carrier. It is a good idea, however, to have the movers open in your presence, those boxes with expensive items such as electronics or figurines. If you see something missing, itemize it on the delivery forms.
___ The movers have also been paid to re-assemble all furniture and toys that they disassembled for shipment. Watch them carefully! Sometimes they use a hammer when a wrench will do. Have a set of tools handy. You can ask them to come back another day for some things. Work an agreement out with the carrier.
___ The moving company is required to remove and discard all excess packing materials and boxes at your request.
___ On delivery day meet the packers. Check and double check that everything on your inventory is accounted for and in proper condition. If you have loss or damage to your household goods, complete the 1840R and return to the claims office within 70 days of delivery of your goods.
DO NOT REPAIR, REPLACE OR DISPOSE OF DAMAGED GOODS PRIOR TO FILING YOUR CLAIM AND CONSULTING WITH THE CLAIMS OFFICE. Call the Claims Office at your new base as soon as you know you have damage or loss to your property.
___ If at all possible, have your spouse or another adult there with you when your household items are delivered. If you are PCSing from an overseas assignment, your spouse MUST be there to sign the customs declarations.
___ Encourage all family members to help with choices about decorating. This promotes family togetherness and helps everyone feel comfortable with their new surroundings.
___ Set aside family time to restore family routines. Re-establish special activities like "pizza night" or the weekly religious service.
___ Get acquainted with your new neighbors and community. Get a map and tour your new town.
___ Look through the local phone book - especially the yellow pages.
___ Volunteer at the school, hospital and service agencies. Volunteering is a good way to meet other people.
___ If your spouse is looking for a job, visit the Airman & Family Readiness Flight for resume and or employment assistance.
___ Some children see moving to a new school as a pleasant experience, others anticipate change with real fear. One way a parent can help a child to adjust to a new school is to tour the school with the child, pointing out the classrooms, cafeteria, restrooms, playground and other areas. This will ease some of the anxiety and keep the child from feeling lost. Introducing the child to the teachers and a few classmates will help. Make sure they are dressed in an outfit that will boost their self-confidence on a difficult day. Take time to listen to your children's new experiences each day.
___ All items that are missing or damaged will be listed on the DD Form 1840. DO NOT LET THE DRIVER TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN DO IT LATER. You want to list as many exceptions as possible at delivery and on the carrier's copy of the DD Form 1840. IF THERE IS AN EXTREMELY LARGE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE, CONTACT TMO IMMEDIATELY.
___ Inspect furniture as it is unloaded from the truck. Are there any new damages? Be specific as to the type and location of damage.
___ Ensure the driver gives you 3 copies of the DD Form 1840.
___ After packers leave, annotate all damages found afterwards on the reverse side of the DD Form 1840. If the driver used the reverse side, obtain another set from the Claims Section of the Legal Office.
You have 70 days from date of delivery to submit additional damages to the Claims Office. You do not need receipts, replacement costs, repair costs, etc., to accomplish this. The DD Form 1840 is the only notification of damages and the intent to file a claim.
Moving day madness! How to ease the strain of the first 24-48 hours after a move? One way: pack a 48 hour survival kit. All the bare necessities will be on hand while you adjust to your new home and job.
Each survival kit should be well labeled and carried in your car or loaded last on the moving van, to be unloaded first. Ideas:
*salt and pepper shakers
*paper plates, cups, bowls
*plastic eating utensils
*frying pan & saucepan
*can opener
*serving spoon
*plastic pitcher
*shelf paper
*aluminum foil
*containers for leftovers two days
*instant drinks
*dry cereal
*peanut butter & jelly
*canned or boxed food
(spaghetti, mac & cheese)
*dish washing detergent
*dish towels
*toilet paper
*toothpaste & toothbrushes
*hair dryer
*personal toiletries - brush, comb, shaving cream, razor, deodorant, etc.
*alarm clock
*sheets, blankets, pillows
*complete outfits for the entire family (don't forget socks, underwear and shoes)
*kitchen & bathroom cleaner
*broom, mop, dustpan
*light bulbs
*socket covers (for small children)
*paper towels
*trash bags
*flashlight (batteries included)
*hammer, screwdriver, screws & nails
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As a mother to a stillborn baby, we must all be asking ourselves this question. Due to this we loose our faith and hope. The answer to this question is found in the bible. Please to all those who don't believe in God or in the bible, give him a chance. We need him, he doesn't need us. But because he loves us he sent his son Jesus to die for us. Here is the explanation.
To find out why God allows suffering, we need to think back to the time when suffering began. When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah*, an important question was raised. Satan did not call into question Jehovahs power. Even Satan knows that there is no limit to Jehovahs power. Rather, Satan questioned Jehovahs right to rule. By calling God a liar who withholds good from his subjects, Satan charged that Jehovah is a bad ruler. (Genesis 3:2-5) Satan implied that mankind would be better off without Gods rulership. This was an attack on Jehovahs sovereignty, his right to rule.
*The bible states Gods name is Jehovah, his name is in the scriptures over 7,000 times.
Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: ËœWe do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.How could Jehovah settle that issue? How could he teach all intelligent creatures that the rebels were wrong and that his way truly is best? Someone might say that God should simply have destroyed the rebels and made a fresh start. But Jehovah had stated his purpose to fill the earth with the offspring of Adam and Eve, and he wanted them to live in an earthly paradise. (Genesis 1:28) Jehovah always fulfills his purposes. (Isaiah 55:10, 11) Besides that, getting rid of the rebels in Eden would not have answered the question that had been raised regarding Jehovahs right to rule.
Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teachers way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.
Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satans guidance.
The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honesthearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: O,well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.Jeremiah 10:23.
Why, though, has Jehovah allowed suffering to go on for so long? And why does he not prevent bad things from happening? Well, consider two things that the teacher in our illustration would not do. First, he would not stop the rebel student from presenting his case. Second, the teacher would not help the rebel to make his case. Similarly, consider two things that Jehovah has determined not to do. First, he has not stopped Satan and those who side with him from trying to prove that they are right. Allowing time to pass has thus been necessary. In the thousands of years of human history, mankind has been able to try every form of self-rule, or human government. Mankind has made some advances in science and other fields, but injustice, poverty, crime, and war have grown ever worse. Human rule has now been shown to be a failure.
Second, Jehovah has not helped Satan to rule this world. If God were to prevent horrible crimes, for instance, would he not, in effect, be supporting the case of the rebels? Would God not be making people think that perhaps humans can govern themselves without disastrous results? If Jehovah were to act in that way, he would become party to a lie. However,it is impossible for God to lie.Hebrews 6:18.
What, though, about all the harm that has been done during the long rebellion against God? We do well to remember that Jehovah is almighty. Therefore, he can and will undo the effects of mankinds suffering. As we have already learned, the ruining of our planet will be undone by the turning of the earth into Paradise. The effects of sin will be removed through faith in Jesus ransom sacrifice, and the effects of death will be reversed by means of the resurrection. God will thus use Jesus to break up the works of the Devil.(1 John 3:8) Jehovah will bring all of this about at just the right time. We can be glad that he has not acted sooner, for his patience has given us the opportunity to learn the truth and to serve him. (2 Peter 3:9, 10) Meanwhile, God has been actively seeking sincere worshipers and helping them to endure any suffering that may come upon them in this troubled world.John 4:23; 1 Corinthians 10:13.
I post this, not to cause a debate but lift people faith back. So you can get close to God. Soon he will make all things better, including the hope of bringing back our little ones.
Revelation 21:4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.


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Friday, March 21, 2014
AUGUSTA, Ga. (WRDW) -- Fire officials confirmed crews found the body of a man inside the burned home on Jenkins Street in Augusta Friday night.
The victim has been identified as 58-year-old Bruce Williams who was pronounced dead at the scene, the Richmond County coroner said.
The victim's sister said Williams had a stroke last year and had congestive heart failure. She said he was very frail and could barely walk with a cane.
Crews battled the flames at a house fire on Jenkins Street at Tuttle Street for hours. Dispatch said the call came in shortly before 8:30 Friday night. Firefighters were still actively working to put the fire out at 11 p.m.
Witnesses said they could hear cries of help coming from inside the home.
The Richmond County Fire Chief said four people were inside the home. For hours, only three were accounted for. At first, fire officials weren't sure if the man was inside the house or at the hospital. Fire officials have since confirmed the man's body was found in the home.
Fire officials said it looked like the fire may have been caused from smoking on the front porch when a couch caught fire.
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Sheila Montoya of Sapello juggles a family including her husband and four children, classes at Luna Community College and clinicals in Las Vegas and Santa Fe to pursue her dream of becoming a registered nurse.
Her life is "crazy," she says, but "good crazy." During a weekend of planning for her daughter and son's birthday party, homework from Luna and readying for Sunday Mass at Immaculate Conception Parish, she took time to reflect on the path she has chosen to achieve a lifelong dream.
From The Associated Press
Couture to get salary, $454,000
ALBUQUERQUE — Departing New Mexico State University President Barbara Couture will be paid nearly $454,000 when she leaves her post in January.
That's on top of the salary she'll earn while on paid administrative from now until she officially leaves at the end of the year. At an annual salary of $392,700, she'll earn about $100,000 for the next three months leave.
By Margaret McKinney
Highlands University
Media arts students from New Mexico Highlands University presented their cutting-edge electronic design work at the International Symposium on Electronic Art earlier this month in Albuquerque.
More than 100 artists and 400 presenters from 30 countries participated in the symposium that brings together art, science and technology. The symposium is in its 18th year.
NMSU president on leave
LAS CRUCES — The New Mexico Board of Regents is declining to say why the president of one of the state's major universities is on leave.
A New Mexico State University spokeswoman confirmed to the Las Cruces Sun-News that president Barbara Couture is on leave. But Minerva Baumann did not specify if the leave was paid or unpaid or for administrative, personal or medical reasons.
Dalan Abreu, a 2012 Las Vegas Robertson High School graduate, has been selected as the recipient of the 31st Annual Michael William Marr Memorial Scholarship. The Marr Scholarship has been awarded annually since the 1981-82 school year to a Robertson student athlete who excelled academically and participated in the football program.
An outstanding scholar athlete and a leader on and off the field, Abreu participated in four sports and received many awards, including All- District and All-State honors in football and basketball. He served as football team captain.
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WEST POINT, N.Y. — Cadet Corey Archibeque, son of Ben Archibeque and Mary Jo Archibeque, has completed Cadet Basic Training at the U.S. Military Academy.
Archibeque entered West Point on July 2 and has completed six weeks of Cadet Basic Training.
Students protest abortion poster
ALBUQUERQUE — An anti-abortion poster depicting a fetus in an American Indian headdress has sparked a protest at the University of New Mexico.
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Did Marc Andreessen Push Mark Hurd Out of HP?
Did Marc Andreessen Push Mark Hurd Out?
Did Marc Andreessen Push Mark Hurd Out?
Details have emerged of the sexual harassment allegations that led to the resignation of former Hewlett-Packard (HPQ) CEO Mark Hurd. Jodie Fisher, the former HP marketing contractor who made the allegation, claimed she lost work from the company because she did not have sex with Hurd, Reuters reported without naming its sources.
According to news reports, HP's directors were surprised Hurd had settled the sexual-harassment claim before they could learn more about the incident. This contributed to their unanimous vote to oust Hurd as CEO the following day.
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Inappropriate reporting of expenses got Mark Hurd fired from his job running Hewlett-Packard. Will it cost him his seat on News Corp.'s board of directors also?
Jodie Fisher, the woman at the center of the Hewlett-Packard scandal, has already used up about 10 minutes of her 15 minutes of fame. But there are many unanswered questions in this sordid tale that should disturb investors.
If the scandal surrounding former Hewlett-Packard CEO Mark Hurd's resignation has taught us anything, it's this: Dishonesty pays at HP -- if you hold a high enough position, that is.
Jodie Fisher, the woman at the center of the sexual harassment claim that led to Hewlett-Packard Co. (HPQ) CEO Mark Hurd resigning, said that she is "surprised and saddened" that the events cost him his job. Fisher, 50, knew Hurd through her work as a contractor with HP%u2019s marketing department, The Associated Press reported. Between 2007 and 2009, she was paid as much as $5,000 per event to greet people and make introductions among executives at events.
Business News You Need Today: Aug. 8, 2010
While the stock price doubled under his leadership -- from $21 to below $42 -- and his departure sliced off 10% of its value, there seems to be a gap between HP's net income growth and the slide in its cash position while Hurd manned the helm.


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Monday of the Fifteenth Week in Ordinary Time
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Jesus said to his Apostles: "Do not think I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's enemies will be those of his household."
Date: July 11, 2014
Location: Nkozi, Uganda (Uganda Martyrs University)
"But Haley, if there is a God, how can He allow evil to exist? And if He doesn't allow evil to exist, but cannot do anything to stop bad things from happening, then how can He be considered an all-powerful God?"
If I had a dollar for every time I've been asked this question, I'm pretty sure I'd be able to single-handedly save the entire continent of Africa.
A number of my close family members and friends are atheists (they deny the existence of God). Now, in my opinion, there's really nothing wrong with that because I love them just the same (if not even more, since they don't know the love of God), but it is always very interesting to converse with them about the reasons for their disbelief.
"It just doesn't make sense to me," they say. "How can evil and God exist simultaneously? If God actually exists, there wouldn't be evil in this world."
They began constantly questioning me in this manner around the time I was in 6th or 7th grade. At that time in my life, I'd usually respond like this…
"Well, daddy, this is the way I see it. Earth is not a perfect place. Heaven is a perfect place; perfection is meant for Heaven. If earth was in fact perfect, then we would have no need for Heaven. Evil exists on Earth so that we have a choice between good and bad, life and death, a God-filled life and a Godless life. Whichever we choose will determine if we spend the rest of our lives in Heaven with Jesus or the rest of our lives without Him. But why doesn't God choose to stop bad things from happening to good people, you ask? Well, imagine a world where God constantly forced us to act in a certain way, as if we were His little puppets. That wouldn't be much of a life at all. Instead, God loves us so much that He gave us free will. You see, He knew we would abuse this free will and fall into sin everyday, but because He loves us, He lets us live our lives in whatever way we choose."
That 6th grade response was never enough for any of them. The conversation usually resulted in more questions, some verbal attacks, and a few tears on my part, of course. Typical sensitive Haley. Thankfully, today I don't shed any tears during those conversations, and my answer has in fact improved (slightly) since 6th grade. Yet above all what I realized in those hard conversations was that the most beautiful thing about our faith is the fact that some questions will never be answered. As much as we think we know Jesus, we don't. He is beyond our understanding. No amount of pondering and reflection and research will ever allow us to understand fully the beauty of His ways. "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,' declares the Lord" (Isaiah 55:8). We will never fully comprehend Him, yet what we do know is this: "the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength" (1 Corinthians 1:25). This we know to be true, that God is wiser and stronger and higher and more powerful than we will ever be able to understand.
So for once, let's stop asking questions. Let's remain silent, with our eyes fully open and our hearts prepared to trust in His presence and receive His love each and every day of our lives. Because no matter how hard we try, even if we spend our entire lives searching and searching for answers, we will never be able to wrap around our brains around the greatness of God. He is too wonderful, too powerful, too awesome to ever be understood by such imperfect human minds as ours.
Still, I must admit that it is very fascinating to hear other peoples' opinions about this topic as I continue to refine my 6th grade response. The other day, I asked my Ugandan roommate, Agatha (Aggie), what she thinks about it all. Aggie is a Christian like me, yet she has been through more suffering in her 22-year-old life than I may ever experience in all of mine. She grew up Mbale, Uganda, and attended primary and secondary school (the equivalent of American middle and high school) in Jinja and later Entebbe, Uganda. Today, she is approaching her third and final year at Uganda Martyrs University (UMU) where she studies statistics and economics. She comes from a humble background of a loving, wonderful family of 10 (5 girls, 3 boys, and her parents) whom I had the privilege of meeting about a month ago, and she has dreams of becoming an economics lecturer in the future. This summer, Aggie and I are research partners at UMU, working together to design and implement the next phase of the Savings and Internal Lending Communities created by Catholic Relief Services (CRS) in the 12 villages of Nnindye Parish right outside of Nkozi, Uganda. Now that you have some background information about this wonderful human being I call my best friend and future bridesmaid (she has already promised to come to America for my future wedding between me and my currently very nonexistent boyfriend), read her thoughts about God and how an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good Creator could possibly allow evil to exist and possibly allow bad things to happen to good people…
"If everyone were rich, there would be no way to tell who is compassionate and who really cares about God's people. If every student in the class knew all the answers and was perfect in every subject, there would be no need for teachers. Yes evil exists, but evil exists so we can have the chance to show our love for God. So God exists. The benefits of knowing the love of God will always outweigh the cost of evil existing in the world. God can never give you something you can't handle. Yes there is evil in the world and God has put you in the world to deal with this evil, but He has put all the power you need in your hands. It is entirely up to you how you want to use that power (of free will). We are free to decide anything we want to. That is a gift God has given us: freedom. Freedom to choose the right way or the wrong way. It's all about obedience."
And get this: later when I mentioned the word "atheist" to her and told her that many of my closest family members and friends are atheists, she responded, "All the 'atheists,' or however you call them, try so hard to ignore God, but they each end up back in the same place, the Church, realizing that God is in fact real. If you doubt this just give God a try and see how your life will change. Anyone who says they are atheist hasn't actually given God a try and if they have, they have turned away because they fell into the trap of believing that God is just a happy feeling and if you don't feel that happiness 24/7 then He's not real. That's not true. God is not a feeling. Faith, like love, is a decision. Remember, it's all about obedience. The more you choose to follow Him, the more you will experience His love."
The more you choose to follow Him, the more you will experience His love.
Today, soak up His love. Today, be comfortable with not knowing all the answers to the world's many questions about Jesus. Yes, do your best to defend your faith and develop your own answers to these questions, but find REST in the fact that no matter how hard you try, you will never be able to comprehend how awesome and mighty and powerful and beautiful His love really is.
"I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord's holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge – that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God. Now to Him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to His power that is at work within us, to Him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen" (Ephesians 3:16-21).
As always, I love love love you for reading,
Haley is a student at the University of Notre Dame. This meditation was reprinted with permission (a virtual handshake and a hug) and was taken from her outstanding blog: Hunger and Thirst.
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California tracksters advance to Sectionals
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
The California High School track team competed at the Class 2 District 3 track meet at Linn Saturday, May 7, where both the Pintos and Lady Pintos finished in fourth place, while a number of California athletes finished in the top four of their event individually to earn All-District honors and advance to the Class 2 Sectional meet Saturday, May 14, at Centralia.
Blair Oaks won the girls division and Fatima won the boys division.
In the girls' division of the district meet, the following Lady Pintos earned All-District honors and advanced to Sectionals: Sydney Deeken, High Jump, Long Jump, Triple Jump and 200 Meter; Tanner Roberts, 100 Meter and 4x400 Meter Relay; Lizzy Kirby, 3200 Meter and 4x800 Meter Relay; Karin Bolinger, 4x800 Meter Relay and 4x400 Meter Relay; Audrey Imhoff, 4x800 Meter Relay and 4x400 Meter Relay; Hanna Carpenter, 4x800 Meter Relay; and Lesa Langlotz, 4x400 Meter Relay.
"Coach Matzes' gang of jumpers dominated the meet," California Coach Rick Edwards said. "We had seven jumpers qualify for the Sectional meet. Sydney had a nice 200 Meter race. There are three girls who were within a yard of each other and she pulled out the win. All of our relays on the boys' and girls' side pointed."
For more of this story check out the May 11 issue of the California Democrat.
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The Australian Cruiser Perth 1939-1942
Rosenberg Publishing, 2007 - History - 263 pages
For all but a few months from her commissioning in June 1939 to her sinking in March 1942, the Australian light cruiser Perth was engaged in wartime operations against the forces of Germany, Italy, Vichy France, and Japan. She served in the West Indies, the Pacific and Indian Oceans, the Mediterranean, and the Java Sea. Her operations included the blockading of German merchant ships in neutral ports, escorting vital troop convoys to the Middle East, attacking shore positions in Libya and Syria, and providing air defense of convoys, especially from the feared Stuka dive bombers of the German Luftwaffe. The Perth participated in several pivotal battles, especially Matapan and Java Sea, and in the evacuation of Commonwealth forces from Greece and Crete in April-May 1941. Despite all this active service, up until the ship's sinking, it had lost fewer than a dozen of its company to enemy action. Using diaries kept by members of the ship's company to supplement British, Australian, German, Italian, and Japanese official sources, Ian Pfennigwerth has provided a picture of the men who contributed to the ship's proud record and the conditions under which they did so. He describes how the unshakable bonds of trust between crew members were developed and forged in the crucible of ferocious attacks by the enemy, even into the ship's last desperate battle against a superior Japanese force. This sustained the survivors in the ordeal of imprisonment and mistreatment that was to follow. The book is a story of adventure and courage in adversity, written as a tribute by a former commanding officer of the cruiser's namesake, the guided missile destroyer Perth II.
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