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I have an A77+1.4 50mm & LUV it! ... but I'm just a fanboi lol >;p
... in other news I also own a NEX7+1.8 55mm and SHALL own the A7R for complete domination -_-
Just Posted: our in-depth review of the Sony SLT-A77. Sony's latest flagship APS-C camera is the long-awaited replacement for the well-respected A700 DSLR and the most sophisticated camera to use the company's SLT design. We've paid particular attention to the benefits offered by its two key features: its 24MP CMOS sensor and its autofocus system that continues to operate at the camera's maximum 12fps shooting speed. We also had a look around for signs of the infamous 'ghosting' glitch that put some people off previous SLT models.
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I have an A77+1.4 50mm & LUV it! ... but I'm just a fanboi lol >;p
... in other news I also own a NEX7+1.8 55mm and SHALL own the A7R for complete domination -_-
I don't normally post but just had to share this gem with the world.
I sent an email asking Sony if they intended making the SLT A77 switchable between PAL/NTSC. The answer is unbelievable! They don't recommend taking the camera abroad!!!! Its a shame I really liked this camera and would have put up with the PAL/NTSC issue but when the manufacturer says things like this, well....Fuji seems to read this forum and respond accordingly with firmware updates etc Sony are clearly above all that!
This is the answer:
Thank you for your recent e-mail.
I understand that you are considering purchasing a Sony SLT-A77V camera and are concerned it is not switchable to PAL and NTSC formats and would like to know if there is a way around this.
In this instance Sony would not recommend taking any device abroad. This is partly because of such as voltage requirements. There is no way around this and a firmware update would not resolve the problem. country.
I hope to capture gorgeous landscapes in the keys and blow them up 30 x 72 with this new camera and SAL-16F28 Sony 16mm F/2.8 Fish-eye or Sony Carl Zeiss 24-70mm f/2.8 SAL-2470Z ... what do you think? Will it work?
We just finished a 4 day gig as the official photographers on the Rock Legends Cruise. We shot over 9,000 excellent concert photographs and a few videos with our 2 SONY SLT-A77s and were very impressed with the results! We shot about 7,000 photos with no flash and had maybe 100 photos with a little visible noise. We had already taken over 15,000 excellent photos with our A77s so the photo quality was not a surprise.
What really surprised me was the quality of the video sound.
I wasn't planning on shooting any video so I left my external mic at home. I ended up shooting 2 concert videos from 10-15 feet away from one of the main speaker piles and was expecting the on-board mic to be totally clipped through both videos. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the sound was excellent even though the source volume was blasting!
To see our review of the performance of the cameras and the photos and videos go to http://www.abetterdj.net and click on the RLC PHOTOS tab.
I have the Sony A77 and I love it. I am just curious to know what are the setting you are using to get low noise result in low lighting. I don't shoot that much in low light but those few times I have the picture was so noisy I could hear it. Please share your setting if you will. Thanks.
Great review!
We've shot about 7,000 photos (4 weddings and 3 engagement sessions) with our A77s and the quality of the photos we are producing is nothing short of amazing. We are running about a 98% keeper rate. We shoot mostly in auto JPEG with external flashes and have no need for high ISO shots.
We have hands on reviews of the SONY SLT-A77 and the SONY 16-50MM 2.8 lens with photo samples under the SONY|MINOLTA tab on our site http://www.abetterdj.net
I was playing in a camera shop a few days ago and noticed that Canon and Panasonic allow users to access both PAL/NTSC video formats on there SLRs and mirrorless systems.
I was also disappointed to discover that no sony cameras allow this option. Has anyone else noticed this? or did I miss something?
I reckon this same sensor without that stupid translucent mirror in between blocking the light will perform better.
After reading this review and trying the A77 in a store I'm pretty happy I didn't order it. I would have preferred a camera with the body and ergonomics of the A77, but with the sensor of the A55/A580, or at least another sensor with a sensible pixel-count. The sacrifices made to accomodate the 24mp-sensor are too great and IQ seems to suffer. It's a nice camera otherwise though. EVF is great, it feels great to hold and the button layout was very good. The new 16-50 lens seemed nice too.
You should probably read this...
and this...
What were you saying about the sensor of the A55?
How can the A77 get such a high score with such poor ISO performance? Sure below 800 is a great camera, but does that warrant 81% score?
The camera performace is very good upto ISO 1600
CLEANSHOT How can Canon 7D get 84, while it's sensor has one of the worst color depth and DR on the market(see DXO results)?
I am not sure of the stock lens of 16x50, i would think the zeiss 24-70 2.8 although expensive would bring out the quality of the camera. i am a newbie so your thoughts on the lens for the camera would be appreciated. I also think the range of the lens would be a great all around lens. what do you guys think?
After studying the review, I realized that almost each new digital slr (or whatever you call it) camera:
a. Offers some genuine advantages relative to previous models.
b. Introduces some disadvantages of its own, again relative to previous models.
We will see if the various trends will finally merge or different slr types are going to coexist. Interestingly Olympus E-330, the original live-view slr, offered two shooting & focusing modes. Maybe a future model will offer three!
I will buy this a77 most likely, but I'm disappointed by the senseless 24MP sensor. As to be expected it brings noise without the advantage of real higher resolution because the lens isn't able to deliver this resolution, or most likely, the AF is never ever this sharp on focus to have any benefit of 24 MP.
And generally:
Even if the system would deliver real 24 MP of visible picture resolution, no one would mention it: there's no screen or beamer out there that visualizes more than 3 MP. And who of you does regularly paper enlargements at A2 format?
Interesting, amazing & amusing
You are disappointed by the cam.
You don't like the noise.
You don't need 24 MP.
You believe that no lens can resolve 24 MP.
Why the hell than would you buy this cam ?
+1 to gl2k (i almost wanna write Glock)
ya, with all those faults, why would you willingly buy the A77 then?? is some actually holding a gun (a GLOCK!!!) to your head?? or do you plan on buying top-notch Zeiss glass for it and finding a shop to print 60x90 size prints and admiring them from a foot away?
Not quite the sort of discussion I would have expected from a photo forum...
I have the same thoughts as Wolfgang. The camera is very appealing. Magnesium body, improved auto-focus, external flash contact, electronic viewer (although I'm not quite convinced yet), auto-focus help-light, better ergonomics.
With the developing of this camera I'm sure the Sony engineers had a Canon 7D and Nikon D7000 to beat on the table.
Then why those noisy 24 mp's ? Why ...why...?
I assume you are invested in the Sony system, which makes you feel there is no other option for upgrade. I agree 24mp is a bridge too far at this sensor size. It seems to me more pixels for the sake of more pixels. Virtually useless.
I have bought and sold so much Nikon equipment over the years, just trying new things for the fun of it, that I firmly believe there is no reason to feel locked in to anything. Full frame Nikon cameras are the best, IMO, but they are just too large for my taste. I would like to see something like the D7000 with a better focus system, and I hope the D400 will be just that. But rumors are it will have a 24mp sensor, and if it does I would not buy it on a bet. I am invested in Nikon, and it is the only brand DSLR I have used for years, but I don't feel locked in. If I thought there was something I would enjoy more I would go to it. I certainly would not buy a Nikon I didn't want for any reason.
+1 to that. i've also been a Nikon user since i bought the F70 back in... i dunno, the mid-90s i think? bought and sold but stayed with Nikon. but today, if Canon or Sony offered a better combination of bodies & lenses for my purposes, i'd jump ship. which i am doing :P no reason to stay with a brand and be myopic and buy just because it's whatever "my brand" just came out with and it would be blasphemy to say "um, no, i think this is going the wrong way, i'll try my luck with these other guys"
I actually sold out of my last camera brand and bought into sony to get be able to get this camera. Its sweet.
Most interesting is the (kit?)lens, 16-50mm f2.8, but not a word about it in the review.
Price (Body only / with 16-50mm F2.8)
Hi guys
If you want to know how good the camera is in real world use by an experienced photographer then check out Kilpatricks 10,000 word essay about the A77 at www.photoclubalpha.com It's really thorough.
I don't even have a camera yet but Im looking at the A77 because I have a couple of Minolta lenses from years ago and thought it might be a good camera to buy, I have no experience at all with cameras but still want one, but after reading the review and reading what everyone on here has to say about the jpegs which is all I would use are they really that bad, I really would like to be able to get some 20 X 30 posters made at some point or would it be wiser for me to get something like the Pentax K5, thanks for any advice
here's the thing - if you do print a 20x30, are you going to look at it from only 2 feet away, or are you gonna stand back a bit more? realistically, a big print is meant to be viewed from further away, so absolute resolution isn't needed simply cuz the print is bigger. and if you do make prints 20x30 or so, hopefully they have more interesting subjects than sheer pixels in them to look at :P
if you have a gorgeous gf or model, a bit of smearing of the skin texture (bumps, tiny wrinkles, etc) would probably be a good thing anyways.
do you like your old Minolta lenses? if so, maybe stick with them and check out the A65 instead - same sensor and all but at 30% less price (a few features removed, but 95% of the time you'd probably not even notice them being missing)
The "interrupted" liveview problem in the A77 and its brethren is caused by a shortfall in processing power. Moore's law has a history of dealing with such problems quite successfully. The similar "interrupted" liveview in conventional SLRs is caused by the flapping mirror. This is a design problem that can never be fixed without re-designing the system to eliminate the moving mirror, which Sony did.
Whatever you think of this particular camera's several shortcomings, it is a signpost to the future. Ten years from now moving mirror cameras will be collector's items, you won't be able to buy a new one. If we think about them at all it will be to wonder why it took so long to implement a better idea.
ya, someone should invent something like a TLR maybe. full-time live-view. but wait, someone will surely b1tch about the parallax then, or that they have to buy TWO lenses. nothing will ever be perfect - until they discontinue it (like Kodachrome). actually, KR64 sucked in some respects too...
maybe the ideal solution will be a transparent sensor, so that the sensor is in front of the mirror / prism for the AF module. that way, live view, no loss of light through an SLT, etc etc etc.
ok, can someone please go out and invent a transparent sensor? it would have to be ultra-low noise (photon-counting quality), full frame, 40Mpix, and of course cheap cuz nobody wants to actually PAY for it.
Sony SLT-A77... big and fun. Not much of a change in form factor from a 1952 SLR. Now, if I had Sony's NEX 5 or 7 camera, that would more contemporary.
On my little NEX camera, I would barely (yes, barely) have a small lens attached. I wouldn't like anything bulbous distorting my camera's feng shui. This Sony combo would be a great travel companion. No, I am not Ansel cruising the desert in my SUV, taking pix with my trusty 8x10 Deardorff.
Actually and not surprisingly I rarely use a zoom and never a telephoto. Maybe, just maybe a basic pancake lens would be okay. Since I am an ol' skool kinda guy, I convert most of my color to B-dub anyway. Wouldn't that be a fun and surreptitious way to go?
I am sure the pix would be fine for exhibition and publication. What more do you want?
They were using Sony 50/1.8 lense! :)
Is this a JOKE !!??
Canon(Nikon): 50/1.4 Fullframe glass (like Nikkor 50/1.4G)
Sony cheapest "cropped" prime !
Ok, now tell me why not Sony 50/1.4 ??
Why not similar optical quality and benefit from "sweet spot" like rivals?
I smell some money behind the scene... ;)
LOL! usually the 50/1.8 versions are sharper than the 50/1.4 versions - though they're not quite as bright wide-open. and a 50/1.4 would suck wide-open anywhere outside of the central 4 pixels anyways.
The lead image in the article shows a 50/1.4 mounted. Where does it say they used a 1.8 for the tests? Actually I think DPR should always state at the beginning of their tests which lens they are using.
19. high iso raw
"The same lens was used: Sony's 50mm f/1.8 SAM..."
23. 24. 25. Studio comparison:
Below crop images, in right bottom corner, when you move mouse over something like "settings" icon, you can see all image settings. What you can read for example is:
- for Sony A77 picture - 50/1.8 lense
- for Nikon D7000 picture - 50/1.4G lense
- for Canon EOS 7D - 50/1.4 lense
GregR1 wrote:
"...the 50/1.8 versions are sharper than the 50/1.4..."
So now I'm more confused - why using in review worse Nikon[Canon] 50/1.4 FF instead of better cheap 50/1.8 cropped ?
When you in the analog days wanted a higher quality picture, you didn't reach for a finer-grain filmtype (= more smaller pixels), but a larger film format: 6x6 or 4"x5". So I wished Sony had improved their cameras instead cramming more noisy and smaller pixels on a half 135 film area (APS). I nowadays make higher quality pictures with my 10 Mp APS digital camera than with my analog Hasselblad and Rolleiflex cameras in the seventies.
For improved qualirt I used Velvia with finer grain... for further improvement you can still switch to FF and 645, so not that much has changed. I do still dare to bet your Hasselblad with modern Portra film far outresolves your 10 MP APS, unless you had a real lemon :)
Incidentally Velvia with its finer grain also had high iso issues ;)
I'm talking about max 50 x 60 cm prints viewed from a distance of about 1.5 m and I see better digital prints (APS 10 Mp).
Another unbiased review brought to you by......CANON.
Canon... Delighting you always :)
man, what's with all the complaints and criticisms? does the 7D give live-view at 8fps, or 6pfs? do many others? etc etc etc. i think the biggest "boo" with the A77 are the JPEGs which don't seem to do the sensor justice. i'm trying to kick my Nikon D80 to the curb and replace it with something newer sharper with a flexi-screen, but the A77's image sharpness disappoints when compared against the T3i and similar. even at the A65's lower price, as cool and interesting and useful the other things are, those JPEGs are the only real downers.
i for one can't be bothered to shoot & tweak & edit each and every image in RAW just to get the inherent quality that SHOULD be showing up right from the get-go. if i did have that time, a Mamiya DM80 would be more sensible :P
One thing is a bit strange to me why this 24 mp sensor has not 25k iso option ?
For a77 it could be comprehensible (SLT system less light etc.) but nex7 hasn't it either
Probably that's because if it had an ISO25000 option, it's NOISE level would not fit in DPReview's graph windows!
Attention! A77 is NOT a D-SLR camera, the viwefinder is electronic, not an optical mirror type. SLT cameras have a mirror, but - unlike the one in DSLRs - it does not move, and it is semi-translucent, allowing the majority of the light to pass through to the sensor whilst reflecting a portion of it onto a phase-detection autofocus sensor, this way allowing full time phase detection auto focus.
So, A77 can not be the replacement for the A700. This has nothing in common with a SLT camera, two ranges of different types.
Well spotted Sherlock. That is why it is called "SLT-A77", and not "SLR-A77"
Good thing diegocasale explained this in detail, otherwise a great mutitude would have been wallowing in their ignorance!
I don't see the point in complainig about live view at 8 fps, if you realy use cameras at this speed like me you will know that you cant see much or do much at that speed and that seeing the photo just taken 1/8 of second back would not make that much difference than live view.
I see fine at 8 fps on my 7D and I can 'do much' at that speed. The fact the mirror blacks out 8 times a second is no more troublesome than waving your hand in front of your face rapidly.
1/8 of a second can be significant if you're tracking a fast moving object, especially if it is very close. I need only look at some of my images of this scenario and see that if the camera had been pointed where it was one frame ago, the framing would be completely wrong.
Basically, I would much rather have a flickering live image over an image from 1/8 of a second ago.
I don't see much difference. With the A77 you base your framing on where you see the subject 1/8 sec ago. With your 7D you are basing your framing on where you remember the subject 1/8 sec ago. Either way I think you are basing your framing mainly on a mental prediction of subject motion formed before you pressed the shutter and adjusting on the fly. The A77 approach probably works just as well once you get used to it, have you tried it?
Both cameras are capable of 8fps, but what is the actual blackout time on the 7D vs the A77?
I would argue that blackout time would be more impacting to any potential work you can do than the fps you're shooting.
This issue is how human vision works.
I have not used the A77 (I would like to), but based on the review and reported difficulty panning; I *assume* that every second you see 8 still images, each about 1/8 seconds long. A still image has no movement. You're panning but not perceiving actual movement, rather changes in still images.
With the 7D, you're not remembering where it was 1/8 seconds ago; you are not seeing a series of still images. You are seeing what is happening, broken up by periods of blackness. While you do see the image, regardless of how short it is, you see natural movement at the maximum "framerate" of human vision. You're essentially watching 8 short movie clips. Your mind easily ignores the black (the same way you don't notice yourself blinking or can track an animal moving behind tall grass) and easily stitches them together and perceives natural movement. When your mind naturally perceives movement, it will naturally be able to predict movement.
I agree with choochoo22, I have tried the 8FPS and it seems that I am not the kind of Super man that can notice AND make changes with in 1/8 of a second I can only predict and work accordingly it is only when the buffer starts to slow that I can make the changes and this probably after the critical moment I wanted the high speed for.
Much has been said about how the lack of live-view in 12fps mode is a deal breaker, but what does that mean really? The Canon 1D mk4 is regarded as one of the best sports/action cameras available, let's compare.
The LCD screen on the back of the A77 is not much use in 12fps, the 1D ditto ("a camera that has evolved to be used with your eye to the viewfinder").
In 12fps the A77 viewfinder presents a series of stills (refresh rate not specified) so the shooter is looking at what the camera saw "a fraction of a second ago". In the 1D an image is present in the viewfinder only when the mirror is down (percent of time not known). In between, when the mirror is moving or up during exposure, the shooter must remember what was seen in the viewfinder a fraction of a second ago. Sounds like the A77 has the advantage as the image is available to the eye longer but you would have to try both in practice to see which works best for you.
If this cam would put "Canon" or "Nikon" in a plate in this (remember, weather-proof) magalloy body ¿Would it be a Gold recommended cam? ;-)
I would be very happy if I could spend 1.800 euros to buy an A77, with "all" that ISO noise included :D
Exactly. If Canon or Nikon had made this camera, people would be falling over each other in a rush to heap praise on it. I'll be the first to admit, when the a33 and a55 came out, I was a doubter.
I do wish I could use my Nikkor lenses with my new a77, but you can't have everything.
While the A77 seems largely a great camera, I am very disappointed about the sensor. What the heck was Sony thinking? 16 MP would have been more than enough. The high ISO noise on the A77 looks pretty horrible to me.
Wanted to buy the Nex-7 for my GF, but now I am not so sure any more about this sensor. Might better get the Nex-5n.
I also hope that next year's A99 is not going to have more MP than the A900. Otherwise I will not upgrade to it.
I find the noise no problem in actual use, but if you are really into high iso the 5n might be a better choice.
I've only been shooting with mine for a day, but my first impressions are pretty shocking (to me). The noise isn't an issue at all, especially considering that I never print or even scale to 100%. And the EVF exceeds my hopes and expectations. I can't believe I'm becoming a Sony guy... but... wow. I'm in love. I will say, the camera isn't exactly attractive, at least when compared to my soon to be sold Nikon. And Sony lenses are nowhere near as attractive looking as Nikons (except for the new E mount lenses. Those look slick, aesthetically). But, really... if THAT's my complaint?
To be fair, I'm only a hundred shots in so far... but wow. I'm really enjoying this camera. Actually, that's a lie. I'm LOVING this camera.
Get some sony Zeiss or G lenses. Believe me, your A77 + Zeiss 135 AF or 70-400 G, will make any Canikon owner thinking twice about smirking at you.
Enjoy your new toy!!
I'm guessing that if low-light performance is your thing, then throwing away a good part of what little light there is would not be a great strategy. But that is exactly that SLTs do.
I can be wrong, but my expectation for this camera is that Sony did not aim at high iso as a key sales point (the Nex 5n is better targetted there). There are plenty of other excellent reasons to buy the camera (if they fit your shooting style)
I have been waiting for this but I really hoped for a sensor on-par with the rest of the bunch in term of noise. In real use and print, I agree it is not a big issue but I like to enjoy looking at photos 100% on a pc and cannot stand a sky that is not completely blue at 100 iso.
I've only had an evening with an a77, but in my opinion, the vast majority of reviews - including this one - are missing the big picture.
The specs and features are about what the camera is able to do. fps, iso, etc. Of course that stuff matters. But the real story here is what an electronic viewfinder in a camera of this caliber enables a photographer to do. These new Sonys are the biggest change in cameras since the dawn of digital SLRs. Change exposure compensation and you literally SEE the change as your viewfinder becomes brighter or darker. You can set up the viewfinder to automatically review the shot you just took, in the viewfinder. No need for chimping on the monitor (though you can do that too if you like). Want a level? You can have one laid over what you're seeing in the viewfinder.
The value of the a77's electronic viewfinder cannot be overstated.
No mention of body and lens weather- proofing ; comments like "solid build" are too vague for a technical review
If Sony comes with a 10 megapixel A77-b then thát will be my thing. Don't wanna make huge posters or Super-EXHD video. I want accurate autofocus, no-noise and sharp low light pictures, a big steady camera and a non-plastic body.
So it turns out the Ricoh design for the GXR ( that marries the sensor to the lens not the body ) makes good sense for your requirements
If Sony came out with a 10mp sensor... You will see comments like "Oh This is sooo 2005" etc.
This is a given that no matter what... there will alwas be complains. Some will even complain of the missing Microwave ot Dishwasher :)
The megapixel war claims another victim. There are actually laws of physics that come into play when resolving detail and the quality of the signal produced by the sensor. I'm looking forward to seeing samples from the 1D X, not just in terms of resolution and noise but also dynamic range.
an other victim, yes. and I am wondering how panasonic manages to get less noise with smaller pixels..
Great review, number 1 in its category!
DP admin: why hyperlinks on this comment page is not working?
The A77 certainly is an impressive piece of kit. I am looking to buy a high spec SLR for aviation photography having sold all my Nikon kit am not tied to anyone. Cameras under consideration are EOS 7D, A77 and D300s as need extra reach of APS-C. Very disappointed that live view effectively does not work with 8fps mode - for me that rules the A77 out as an action camera for fast moving subjects and leaves 7D as favourite. Hats off to Sony for producing what they have - just fatally floored for my use...
So, which camera will you opt for, that has 8 fps and liveview?
Oh, if aviation is your thing, maybe pdaf tracking is nice to have in liveview? of when shooting video?
To all Nikon Lovers!
I can only agree , D7000 is smoother ;)
But why did Nikon take all the details out of the picture in the process???
My simple jpeg upload doesn't make the smoothness full justice, bring it up on your own screen to see how much irritating details, like the structure to the left, you don't have to look at on the best-in-class pictures.
In these comparison shots the focal planes of the cameras are once again on different positions. So the whole comparison of details is useless.
Compare the shadow areas where Son'y agressive sharpening can't do anything with more difficult details than linear textures
Anyway comparing the jpeg of 2 semi-pro cameras to see which one has better details/IQ is not very reasonable especially when Nikon's jpeg are known for being smooth (even some P&S cameras are sharper at base ISO than Nikons)
where is the original lens for the Sony A77 ??????
Good morning friends .... someone can tell me what is going on with the lens sony dt 16 -50, .... in Portugal, the pre purchase orders A77 kit comes with 18 dt. 55 !!!!! ..... what is this scam?? Tanks ...
Hi! I'm from Portugal too. It's no scam. There are 3 available options for the A77. Just body; with 18-55 lens and with 16-50 lens. On Portugal most suppliers are opting for the 18-55 kit because it's cheaper. You will soon see the 16-50 kit option available too.
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I have a remark on "12fps af tracking"...
You say only frame 5 is sharp.....it isn't really, is it?
and why is that? - because 1/1000 @ f5.6 isn't enough for action that fast AND camera is clearly shaken. If You look more closely You'll see that nothing in frame is sharp, whole picture is slightly blurred, nothing on the picture is really sharp. There is no DOF line of sharpness on the ground or anywhere else....
So, it isn't AF's fault - it's a bad photographer :)
on frame number 5, the object was braking - slowing down. so that's why only that frame was sharp enough.... I'm very surprised dpreview missed something so obvious.
dpreview also didn't mention that even at Canon & Nikon only the most expensive pro lenses are fast enough for motor sports.
So the questions raises : Did dpreview used a dedicated pro lens suitable for sports action ?
they used pretty slow performer 70-300 f4.5-5.6....
I don't get this at all.....this is NOT glass for this kind of testing....what's wrong with using 70-400 f4-5.6 or eve 70-200 f2.8....
I'm very disappointed with this testing approach.
I guess, I'm gonna get one...
I have tested the a77 and it produced GORGEOUS high ISO JPEGs. All you need to do is use the Multi-Frame Noise Reduction feature (accessed via Auto ISO) OR the similar Handheld Twilight Scene mode. (The template form of reviews and comparison photos does not seem to lend itself to a testing of unusual features such as this.)
See one of my ISO 5000 JPEGs at https://picasaweb.google.com/110698711952841559844/SonyA77ISO500FABULOUS#
The camera snaps six photos very quickly. The Bionz processor micro-aligns them to minimize the effect of any camera shake, allowing for sharp shots at surprisingly long exposures. It then composites the six captures into one, discarding most of the noise data for clean photos even at very high ISO. (My ISO ISO 5000 photos resemble those made at ISO 800 without this feature).
The fully-automatic Handheld Twilight Scene mode is identical but overrides are not available when this mode is used; the camera controls all aspects of the image.
- the linked pic is just softened til the noise is gone.
- no uncle bob would ever go deep in the menu to get multi-frame noise reduction et al before shooting. bad layout.
- snaps 6 photos very quickly? that explains the softness and only works within churches, maybe. no wind, no people, nothing moving.
Looks terrible!
Actually the shadow areas are very grainy and the biggest issue is that it works only with JPGs.
If you summarize more frames into one picture, you can simply make one exposure with the sum of times of all frames and you can get lower ISO for such longer time. :-)))
No noise, but no thin detail :(
Peter K,
And what if the subject of the photo, say a person, is moving in that lowlight picture--really 6 pictures--how does that work well?
And jpgs? Really?
It looks very impressive for handheld shot! You folks, you have to click on the magnify glass symbol to see the detail. Then, use the zoom. Yes, there is some noise in the shadows.. But for a handheld ISO 5000 shot - very good indeed!
No actually it doesn't look real good, for example the bad noise on the stand or lectern front centre right is distracting.
Where did you get the idea that this jpeg is handheld?
The full size JPEG looks gorgeous!! considering it's at ISO 800. The special Multi-Frame NR feature does not soften the JPEGs.
The camera snaps six photos very quickly. The Bionz processor micro-aligns them to minimize the effect of any camera shake, allowing for sharp shots at surprisingly long exposures. ***It then composites the six captures into one, discarding most of the noise data for clean photos even at very high ISO.*** (My ISO ISO 5000 photos resemble those made at ISO 800 without this feature).
The fully-automatic Handheld Twilight Scene mode is identical but overrides are not available when this mode is used; the camera controls all aspects of the image.
This JPEG photo of the church IS handheld ... it is my photo ... I took the shot in Quebec city, hand-held.
I am really confused. Live colour balance, electronic spirit levels, a bazillion stats in the EVF, best in dslr video (with no jello effect), electronic first curtain... shall I go on?... and the review doesn't give it a full "excellent" for features? Put all other categories aside - have you ever tested another camera more packed full of features? Seriously confused. Sad thing is my rant will change nothing :-/
It is kind of like cell phones. Smart Phones now can surf the net, play games, text, and use apps. However, they don't make calls as well as they used to.
This camera has every feature I have ever wanted except for the most important feature to me which is being able to take decent low light photos and videos.
Can you show a camera that Dpreview gave a "full" excellent to in any category? Ratings are relative to its current competitors. Who cares if a rating is a 10 or a 9 or an 8 if its competiting models are 6 7 and 8's? And they have to leave room for the future as more features are added in new models.
Should it not be judged on feature set at the very moment? This thing has everything you could ever want (save for mpgxsvcd's point) TO THIS DATE. Guessing whether on not mind control and voice activation will be a future feature set really isn't giving it its due. Who cares about feature scores? People that care about getting features you can't have in any other camera I guess ;-)
How does the camera with the worst low light performance in its class finish first in its class? I thought we all wanted to take better pictures not faster pictures.
It does take better pics than the rest where most pics are taken, ISO 100-800
Great so if I have to shoot with more than ISO 800 I might as well get out my point and shoot? For this kind of money the camera absolutely has to be great at everything.
Your p&s shoot takes pics like that between ISO 100-800? Want to post a comparison to back up that claim?
For one, its competitors in its "class" are all at least a year old. Ratings are a combination of many factors. If you want to buy on image quality alone, do so.
A slight issue with DPR shots:
A77 receives less light than all other cameras? That would make noise look worse than the rest
Nikon D7000
Exposure Time: 1/640
F Number: 9
ISO Speed Ratings: 3200
Canon 7D
Exposure Time: 1/640
F Number: 9
ISO Speed Ratings: 3200
Pentax K-5
Exposure Time: 1/640
F Number: 9
ISO Speed Ratings: 3200
Metering Mode: Pattern
Sony A77
Exposure Time: 1/1000
F Number: 8
ISO Speed Ratings: 3200
Agreed and let's include one more:
Sony A55
Exposure Time: 1/500(!)
F Number: 9
ISO Speed Ratings: 3200
The lens is stopped down a third of a stop less though.
Still poor performance though seeing it is 1-1½ stop noisier overall.
Boissez, that's at pixel level. Downsample it to 16 MP and it's 1/2 stop worse than A580 and equal to A55.
Only a 1/3 stop less exposure for the a77. Dpreview has said they sometimes adjust exposures so that the over all light captured is the range they are going for. For instance f9 may have introduced too much diffraction on the pixel packed aps-c 24 megapixel sony sensor.
In the comparison tool the A77 received 2/3EV LESS light than the A55 at equal indicated ISO's. Ofcourse it's going to look a lot noisier then, especially if you compare at pixel level, rather than normalized output.....
No, it received only 1/3 EV less light (the lens isn't stopped as much down)
Still a poor showing for a sensor to only have a slight resolution advantage and significantly poorer noise performance than it's 2 year old sibling.
It's 2/3 EV, because *BEFORE* taking into account the F stop difference it's actually 1 EV....
In other words, you're better off comparing for example ISO 6400 from the A55 with ISO 3200 from the A77 as that's only 1/3 of a stop difference, this time favoring the A77. At equal output, they are essentially the same, noise wise and below ISO 3200 you can have more detail. And btw, the A55 and its sensor are *one* year older.
Uhmm.... no. The F-stop on the 7D and other is F9, while it's F8 on the Sony, so more light to the Sony right there. (and I meant it's Canon sibling, the A580/A55 are on a different level)
Did you even read my post that you replied to? I was talking about the A77 vs the A55, not the other cameras. Which is important if you make claims about the 16MP sensor being "better" than the 24MP sensor.
If you want to talk about Canon cameras, try another thread.
Oops... my apologies. I looked at a glance and thought the A55 was shot at the same settings as the Canon 7D and others. My bad.
I have no problem with the review, however, in the pro and con section, I find it interesting that limited control in 12FPS mode is listed as a con.. Shouldn't the fact that this camera has a limited control 12FPS mode (at 24MP and with AF) be listed as a pro?
Also, I believe the 8FPS mode with full control and full AF is quite rare in a camera of this class, no?
You don't have full control @ 8 fps as the live view is *off*. That is a deal-breaker for anything sports related IMO.
And that is properly listed as a con (no argument). Still I think credit is deserved for the 12FPS mode. Anyway, JMHO.
They're not saying the 12 fps is, by itself, a con. The con is the limited control, limited buffer, and no live view while in 12 fps mode. They're just making sure that potential purchasers are aware of the downside of the advertized 12 fps mode.
The 8 fps mode is also limited by the buffer and by the lack of live view, compared to the equally priced 2-year old Canon 7D (which does 8 fps, and at high-quality jpg you can basically fill your card).
Realise that cons are just a list of things that the reviewer thinks people should be aware of. If a person bought this camera with no research, these are the things they *might* find annoying, and would perhaps have wished they'd known prior to purchasing.
I'm a little confused. My last SLR was a film camera where liveview was a non-issue. What does one see in the viewfinder of a 1D mk4 while shooting 10 fps? It would seem one can't see much with the mirror flipping up and down every 1/10th sec.
With all due respect to the author of the review, I would have listed the 12FPS mode (with it's caveat) as a Pro, not the caveat (tied to the 12FPS mode) as a con. That is all...
And I agree. I don't think you'd get much looking through a traditional SLR viewfinder shooting at 12FPS but I don't know since I've never got my hands on such a camera. (Even though there are so many to choose from...) (Sorry for the sarcasm... Couldn't help myself.)
i had an a77 with 16-55 f2.8 for 1 day:
cheap built, no raw converter at hand --> dull jpgs, noisy. no straight easy handling. always compared to nikon d7000. the nikon is better in nearly every important regard, not to say: it's a brillant cam for the price.
sold it.
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16-55 ?
I bet you are just trolling.
Excellent 2.4 million-dot OLED EVF
Versatile full-time live view system
Very high-resolution 24MP CMOS sensor (but see caveats in 'cons', below)
Exceptionally 'deep' feature set including Auto HDR and Sweep Panorama
Class-leading video resolution
*Solid, well thought-out ergonomics*
Fast and responsive operation
Very good continuous shooting performance (particularly with UHS-I memory card)
Efficient SteadyShot INSIDE image stabilization system
In-camera GPS
Good battery life
I guess someone introducing himself as BMWX5 cannot have valuable opinion.
The problem is that your pentax 16-55/2.8 lens will not fit properly, so quality will be bad (Sony does not make one). I would have given you some credit were it not for the cheap built quality remark, its rock solid and the 2.8 kit is a solid lens as well. But enjoy your Nikon and your trolling.
I think people are forgetting one really important point: BATTERY LIFE!
Only about 500 pictures is nothing!! With my Pentax K10D I get much more than a 1000, and believe me that when shooting a concert or some kind of event, you will easily fill a 16Gb card with more than 900 pictures and keep shooting on a new one (at least I do). I can't imagine going out of batteries in the midle of an important event.
Idreamed about this camera for a long time, but when it came out, the IQ and short battery life were like an anti-climax. What a huge disapointment!
But you know that an apple is different of a peach?
The K10D is non-Liveview with ovf. These two indications are making it logical that a battery with equal capacity would last longer in the K10.
If you are an event shooter where you are permanently using the camera, than buy the battery grip and/or some additional batteries.
I'm just a hobby photograph, and there are two things i always check begore leaving the house - having a charged spare battery and a spare memory card with me.
What you say is true, the A77 has differente consumption needs. Nevertheless it should have a matching battery that would deal with those needs. This is the same that happens with the Panasonic G3-an excelent camera but with a astonishing poor battery life. Nikons and canon's dslr's also match the 900-1000 shots per charge. It makes no sense for a top notch DSLR to have such a poor battery life. Besides, having an extra battery means more weight and time lost changing batteries.
exactly: just playing around with the cam for about 4 hours, trying out this and that, drained the battery completely
The fact that no other user has the same report and that you mentioned an non-existent Sony lens in another comment hints that you've never actually had the camera. Can you prove otherwise?
A spare battery weighs less than a second lens. 4 hours will run down just about any battery. Frequent 10-second video shoots over a 20 minute period will cause some batteries to suffer a "cramp," even if enough charge remains to go on taking stills.
I'm at 600 images, two movies at 1080p and battery is at 53%. Still it seems a bit more power hungry then the a700, so my 2 spares come in handy. The number given is using a standard test, if you use a proper flash (hvl58), not too uncommon for this class camera, you get more out of it.
You guys must spend tone of time ediiting. I (very) rarely take 500 shots... per week!
But I'm from the time when each shot was costing money, so you was better to take care of your composition.
Through a serendipitous fluke, I was able to acquire a brand new USA retail packaged model Sony A-77 Friday night in NYC. It came with the v1.03 software update preinstalled. It is amazing, responsive, the glass is crazy sharp, and the updated software has this camera doing everything fast and like it should. No lag when switching between the eye finder and the screen. Seemingly noise free at 1600 iso. I'm a very happy camper. I can also affirm that Lightroom has an update to handle the A77's raw files and it works flawlessly.
This is the ultimate semi-pro cam for studio sessions. Especially beauty and fashion photography. 24MP for a really low price.
But quite funny that a 2007 D300 does better overall when it comes to high speed shooting. 8 fps without any limitations at all.
The quirks with aperture and AF on the A77 is very strange.
Other than that ... well done Sony.
The A77 would have been the ultimate semi-pro cam for studio sessions with a freely movable CDAF point and tethering support. Both are missing.
What limitations does the A77 have in 8 fps mode? How can you tell that the D300 performs better in AF-C when no-one ever bothered to test it? And by test, I'm referring to something like this: http://snurl.com/afctest ...not to subjective impressions.
Good review! The A77 gets really good points. The RAW handling and the high ISO score is not good enough, yet. Perhaps an FW-update makes somethings better. But be real; if i want to shoot in the dark and i earn my money with it, sure i would choose a night beast. It's all about compromises. The A77 is a good camera, but not for all.
At what print size and viewing distance the "A77 is not good enough" and another APS-C camera is?
It's not good enough on it's outer limits: high iso.
So what? If you don't come in those areas, then it will be fine. i own a A77 just e few days and i find the most negative point is the bad, very bad manual! I upgraded from a A350 and exploring the A77.
I would like to make better A2 prints.
What APS-C camera *is* good enough for those A2 prints? Have you verified it by printing the same test subject from the A77 and from that camera? The samples from dpreview.com and imaging-resource.com would allow you to get a very good picture regarding the actual print usability of the A77 versus the competition.
My hunch is that with proper processing and typical viewing distance (for A2), you won't be able to tell the difference.
For prints up to A3 any newer APSC is good enough up to ISO1600. And as Prognathous mentioned, the proper viewing distance is important.
Good self test: Take a picture which annoyes you at 100% on a screen with high noise or unsharpness. Now step back to double distance to screen and watch again. Surprise...!!
@Pruus, if you'd be a night shooter, than you need something better than a high featured, high-pixel APSC. You choose your camera based on your needs. These Prosumer cameras like a77,c60D,nd7k are capable alrounders. You have to aware their weaknesses and work around them.
Aren't the best night shots (stars, etc) done with relatively low ISO, but slow shutter speed?
I haven't read the entire review yet, but the parts I read are very interesting.
The review touches one area I'm most curious about - AF-C performance - but the conclusion doesn't seem to be backed up by actual measurable tests. Quote:
> in terms of its tracking abilities it can't quite keep up with the systems in competitors like Canon's EOS 7D and the Nikon D7000.
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The world's newest known minerals will bear the name of a geology professor from the University of Maine. As Jennifer Mitchell reports, Russian scientists have just discovered two minerals new to science, and geologist Edward Grew is now part of the Earth's mineral record, which is just about the highest honor a geologist can receive.
Edward Grew is rock star. Of sorts. At least he has a rock named after him. "Well it's really a mineral species and it's a very great honor, and something I had literally dreamed about for many years," he says.
The difference between a rock and a mineral species might be lost on many, but as Grew explains it, a rock is an amalgam of several different minerals. And he should know. Grew has been studying minerals for over 60 years; and his love for rocks and minerals has taken him all over the world: to Antarctica, India, Japan, and Russia.
He's well known in mineralogy circles, and has himself been instrumental in the discovery of 12 new minerals over the course of his decades-long career. So when mineralogists Evgeny and Irina Galuskin discovered a pair of brand new minerals in the Caucusus mountains - never before seen - the soft-spoken Grew was an obvious choice.
"The minerals that I've been honored with are calcium silicates. They're actually related to compounds that are used in cement," he says.
That means that the new crystalline minerals aren't just pretty structures - they're also potentially useful in industrial applications, says Grew.
The two new minerals will be called edgrewite and hydroxledgrewite. They'll join the relatively short list of 4,800 distinct mineral species that exist on Earth.


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Teddie is an Ursaring who appeared in JE070: UnBEARable.
It fooled Misty into thinking it was harmless by using Charm and then stole food from Brock's backpack, placing the blame on Ash's Totodile and Chikorita before its cover was blown and stole corn from Team Rocket. It defeated Jessie's Arbok and James' Victreebel before being defeated by Chikorita. However, it evolved into an Ursaring, but still thought it was a Teddiursa. It then tricks Team Rocket...


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Francis has complained frequently about such "careerism" in the church—a buzzword that is frequently used to describe Holy See bureaucrats.
The pope made the comments during an audience Wednesday with about 800 sisters attending an assembly of the International Union of Superiors General, which gathers the leaders of women's religious orders from some 75 countries.
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Pope Francis puts on his head a skull cap he was given by young girl, partially seen at left behind blue cap, after stepping out of his pope-mobile to walk the last part of his way to the altar, to deliver his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican, Wednesday, May, 8, 2013. ((AP Photo/Andrew Medichini))


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After a year of planning, the fruits of hard work and efforts to stage a football showcase will become reality this weekend at Del Oro High School. A total of 10 football games over a three-day period will be held at Eagle Stadium as Del Oro hosts the 2011 Battle at the Capital grid showcase. Games are scheduled Friday through Sunday at Del Oro with the majority of the proceeds going to assist wounded veterans and their families. "This is a family friendly event to show respect to our brave men and women in the military who fought and continue to fight for our freedom," said Mark Soto, Battle at the Capital director. "We not only want to say thank you, but raise much needed funds to help wounded veterans and their families with medical, mental and life skill needs." The feature game of the showcase will be played at 8 p.m., Saturday when Del Oro (1-0) hosts perennial CIF Southern Section power Westlake, of Westlake Village. Action will begin Friday with Del Oro's freshman playing Westlake at 3:30 p.m., followed at 5:30 p.m., by the Del Oro JVs and Westlake. Friday's 8 p.m. feature contest will pit Highlands against Leland, of San Jose, in a special Armed Forces memorial game. Leland is the alma mater of former NFL star Pat Tillman, who lost his life in the Army while serving in Afghanistan. On Saturday, action will begin at 11 a.m. with Sacramento's Capital Christian taking on Scotts Valley, of the Santa Cruz area. That game will be followed at 2 p.m., by Bear River meeting Proctor Hug, of Reno. At 5 p.m., an intriguing match-up of CIF Sac-Joaquin Section Div. I powers will take place when Pleasant Grove, of Elk Grove, tackles Lincoln, of Stockton. Pleasant Grove is led by Top 100 national recruit and USC commit Arik Armstead and standout running back Mark Jenkins. The Del Oro - Westlake game will match two teams that began the season ranked in the CalHi Sports-ESPN Rise California Top 50 as the Warriors from Ventura County are 28th and the Golden Eagles 34th. Del Oro coach Casey Taylor said he is looking forward to the chance to play Westlake because tougher match-ups at the start of the season will prepare the team to get down to business in the Sierra Foothill League. Play will continue on Sunday with Del Campo's midgets meeting Granite Bay at 11 a.m., followed by Roseville and Woodland's midgets squaring off at 1 p.m. Sunday's 3 p.m. feature game will pair a law enforcement team from Placer County against their counterparts from Nevada County in the Battle of the Badges Memorial football game. "They have been talking smack," Soto said. "They both want to win that game. They got uniforms donated to them. A lot of fans will come out to see that game." (Sara Seyydin contributed to this article).


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While on the way to Nimbasa City, Ash and Iris decide to have a battle and encounter a Druddigon and it's trainer, a young girl named Emmy. When Ash decides to battle her, the group sees the problem: Emmy doesn't have any experience handling a Pokémon like Druddigon. To make matters worse Team Rocket has made off with both Druddigon and Axew. Will Iris and Emmy get their Pokémon back?
Ash Ketchum and Iris battle their Pokémon. Iris' Axew attacks Ash's Scraggy, but Scraggy bashes his head against Axew's. Axew attacks with Dragon Rage, but keeps inside him, destroying everything and wounding everyone. However, a Druddigon appears, attacking them.
Ash orders Pikachu to attack with Electro Ball, just in time to deflect Druddigon's attack. A woman by the name Emmy appears, who owns Druddigon. She says that the Druddigon is too powerful for her, so they search for Druddigon. Axew climbs onto a cliff, but quickly climbs off, as Druddigon scares him. Iris calms the Druddigon and spots that it has some rope wrapped onto his leg, so Iris removes it. Team Rocket watch the scene.
Emmy explains (as Pikachu and Axew are playing with Druddigon) that the Pokémon is too much powerful for her to handle. Iris mentions that she wants to follow the Dragon Master's path, to train as many Dragons she can catch. Ash then also mentions that he wants to become a Pokémon Master. Ash then proposes to have a battle with the Druddigon. Druddigon attacks Tepig, but Tepig evades and strikes Druddigon, knocking him out. Meanwhile, the Team Rocket appear, taking Pikachu, Axew and Druddigon.
Druddigon slashes Pikachu's rope, setting him free. Team Rocket go away, while Cilan, Emmy, Iris and Ash track them. Iris then remembers the elder who set her on the quest to become the Dragon Master. Axew then uses the Dragon Rage to destroy the vehicle. The gang arrives to the scene where Team Rocket crashed. James brings his Yamask and Jessie her Woobat out. Yamask attacks them with Shadow Ball, while Woobat uses Cut. The Druddigon and Axew free themselves. Yamask uses Night Shade to push Emmy and Druddigon. Druddigon uses his newest move, Draco Meteor, while Axew uses the Dragon Rage to defeat Team Rocket, but they fly off with their jet-packs.
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That's pretty sweet. I especially love the river. very nice.
So, after a bit of fiddling ... here is the terrain at the time of the arrival of the first true men*, sturdy Urrish farmer folk who chased off the forest monkeys**, took their wives and settled above the Roars of the Water God. They named their settlement Um, which means "Home" in Urrish***.
*according to the Urrish
**the forest monkeys disagreed on this point and called themselves the Kanrkip; but the Urrish were bigger, more numerous and had pigs. The pigs carried a contagious virus that caused mild flu like symptoms among Urrish children but a virulent dysentery-like infection among the Kanrkip.
***it also means "fat from the head of a pig", but that's in another context.
That's pretty sweet. I especially love the river. very nice.
Your little history had me chuckling. The map is cool, and I agree with Janden, the river sytsem is my favorite part.
Looks like a great start! I'm looking forward to how it develops.The backstory is awesome! I have to agree with the previous posters that the river system is very authentic, it looks great.
Anything with pigs causing dysentery has my attention! Not necessarily in a good way... but looking forward to the next stages anyhow, LOL.
Upon the Creation of the World the First Dragons cast their seed in the light of a Sun and a Thousand Suns, beneath the Moon and a Thousand Moons, on a World and a Thousand Worlds.
If there are pigs I imagine the climate is temperate so the villagers can produce sufficient feed for the pigs or the pigs have plenty of space to forage. Also pigs are used for truffle hunting so that could be a good plot point in your world. I have never been truffle hunting myself though (although I do go mushroom hunting but only for chanterelles).
On a side note, one theory for the basis for Jewish and Islamic strictures against pigs is that they are net consumers of grain in a climate where you don't produce as much (and goats and such are better animals to raise in such climates).
The other is that people don't cook meat so well in Mediterranean climates and undercooked pork carries more parasites and disease so people got sick. So these points got enshrined in a religious way because it was a good way of getting people not to do things which were bad for them at the time.
The first age as recounted by the Urrish of Um was the Age of the Boulder, for it was said that a crafty leader by the name of Urriah made a bargain with the devil* that blessed him with many wives and many strong sons. When the devil finally came for Urriah's soul, Urriah fed him a great meal of seven times seven hogs that had before cooking supped heavily on the Stone Mushroom, also called the Kuprriht. The devil ate so much that he could not move and in the end he gave Urriah back his soul in exchange for a magic laxative cooked up by Urriah's grand daughter mixing the traditional sand fermented oil fish and the beans of the cuckoo tree. After taking the laxative the devil excreted a massive boulder and ran off, which for ever after was called Urriah's Lucky Pig Stone – or Umurrhkup.
After Urriah died, his lesser sons and grandsons cut down more forest and built new holms close to Um. In Um itself a humble burial pit was made for Urriah beneath the Umurrhkup, which became a centre of spring fertility rites**.
*some said there was no devil, just a merchant from the western tribes of the Shakr' that taught Urrish to wash his hands in boiled water before the ritual of child delivering, which accounted for all his sons. One can always found skeptical fools who disbelieve the truth of the devil's immanence in the world.
**and every few years some devil-possessed outsider would be sacrificed for suggesting it was somewhat silly to bury a founding ancestor under a pile of petrified devil poo.
Larb - true, truffle hunting would do ... besides, considering this area is a decidious forest region with lots and lots of water, I think high yields are pretty much a given. To me the whole project offers a fun way to build a city bit by bit from initial settlement to subsequent development. I'm interested in how the roads and things are going to turn out too ... and the whole dysentery and pigs angle was just too rich for me to drop ...
I like the map, but I'm even more entertained by the story behind it.
Anno Ummano 500, or thereabouts ... the numerous descendants of Urriah have multiplied, spread, warred, traded, and so forth. Increasing contacts with traders as well as with bands of horse-men they call the Sixfoots, has led the Uubish Urrishmen to build walls and pallisades to protect their women, their livestock and their lives. The divine house of Urr has begun to claim the protection of the rain and sun Gods, as well as the service of one and one-half of the slaves of any settlement to aid in the ministration of the holies and the building of fortified abodes for their disciples.
The intranecine squabbles among the descendants of Urriah have also led to the flight of at least three groups of Urrishmen, the first flight under Ashop the Flighty, the second flight under Horatz of Kanzuuz and the tactical relocation of Möraym the Genuine Ärtzug. They left the map ...


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I was playing a game and while waiting for my opponent to make a move, I decided to check my mail tab. What resulted was an invalid ID/password error basically forcing me to disconnect and making me forfeit the match.
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But Angela Merkel also told broadcaster RTL on Monday that she was "surprised" to learn of the scope of recently leaked U.S. spying programs.
Merkel said the U.S. must clarify what information on people's communications is monitored and how, reiterating that she will raise the issue in talks with President Barack Obama in Berlin on Wednesday.
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Former country club becomes desert research center for students and professors
Borrego Springs' Desert Club, home to swank parties in the 1950s, has again become the center of celebration.
Scientists are heralding the opening of the Steele/Burnand Anza-Borrego Desert Research Center this month.
The facility, managed by the University of California Irvine, is based in the former country club. It features the angular, midcentury modern architecture of William Kesling, who also built homes in Los Angeles and La Jolla.
University officials said they benefited from the real estate downturn in purchasing the property for $650,000, with a gift from longtime Borrego Springs philanthropist Audrey Steele Burnand, said Jim Dice, reserve manager for the center.
The site in 2011 became one of the University of California system's 38 natural reserves, described by UC as "living laboratories" of the state's ecological diversity. Some early research activity began taking place there last year.
This month, university brass, scientists, land managers and community members gathered to officially celebrate the center's transformation.
"I'm a kid in a candy shop here," center director Travis Huxman told guests during the inauguration event as they sipped cocktails concocted with blackberry brandy and agave syrup. "There is a sense of place here that isn't present everywhere, and it makes me giddy as a scholar."
With $7 million in total investment, officials spruced up the facility and will add dorms and research labs for scientists and students in the vast Anza-Borrego Desert State Park in eastern San Diego County.
"A lot of attention was paid to trying to maintain the historic integrity of the building," Dice said.
Coats of white and aqua paint brighten the center's low-slung roof. Broad picture windows open onto the desert landscape — a glowing amber against the darkening sky.
An interior wall showed a hint of color under smudged white paint. It's a historic mural — of Juan Bautista de Anza trekking through the region — that had been painted over and then uncovered during the renovation, Dice said.
"The university asked what it would cost to restore the mural, and it was something close to the national debt," he said.
Officials decided to hold off on that project, but may seek donations or volunteer expertise to tackle the restoration.
They also hope to unearth some of the desert's buried treasure. Anza-Borrego State Park "is a time capsule that goes back 5 to 6 million years," said Gregory Leet, vice chancellor for University Advancement at UC Irvine.
The park's washes conceal fossil remains of giant species of tortoises, camels, ground sloths and bears, as well as the largest bird ever to fly in California — a creature that dominated the sky with a wingspan of up to 18 feet.
"We look at this (now) and see a desert," Leet said. "This land was a tropical marine environment. That's the story that needs to be told here."
The center will house students and professors in fields including ecology, botany, geology, astronomy, evolutionary biology and economics. Graduate students described plans to work on projects such as restoration of the Salton Sea, climate-change education and the use of mushrooms for alleviating pollution.
Marie Simovich, a biology professor with the University of San Diego, said she brings students to the park during spring break. She expects the new center will enable them to explore the area more easily.
"This allows classes to spend time in the ecological environment and really see all the things they talk about in class — not pickled, not stuffed," she said. "There's nothing better."