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Pre-Administratorship Talk-page Archive
I've upgraded you to admin. This will allow you to help with blocking vandals, altering certain limited pages and so on. Congrats, your work on the wiki has been very good :-) --Werthead (talk) 15:10, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
"There is difference between a grub
and a butterfly; yet your butterfly was a grub.
This Martius is grown from man to Dragon:
he has wings; he is more than a creeping thing."
- -- Coriolanus, Act V, Scene IV
Here do I swear fealty and service to the Game of Thrones Wiki, and to Werthead the Founder and head Administrator of the Wiki: to speak and to be silent, to do and to let be, to come and to go, in need or plenty, in peace or war, in living or dying, from this hour henceforth, until my lord release me, or death take me, or the world end.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:42, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
You and me both! lol I had no idea how to do it, and couldn't find anyone, so I got the staff to help. :) QueenBuffy 22:34, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
Iron Price and Old Way
I believe the Old Way is the more wide concept, which includes the "iron price", and it has been openly established in the House Greyjoy featurette. What do you think, separate articles or "Iron Price" as a subsection of the Old Way?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:38, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
- The problem is that the Starks also call the Old Gods "the Old Way", in dialogue on-screen (episode 1, Bran answers Ned that Ned had to personally execute a Night's Watch deserter, because "our way is the Old Way"). It's vague enough that I think it may be better to put all of the ironborn info onto "Iron Price" (noting that they call the overall pattern "the old way"), but make a disambiguation page noting that this could refer to either the Old Gods of the North, or the ironborn raiding lifestyle.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:06, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
House Front Page Game
Porterfield is someone who works at Wikia, and there's a big effort by Wikia to publicise the Wiki at the moment as noted on the blog entry. Whether this is a good thing or not is up for debate: Boy Who Cried Direwolf has already pointed out several major flaws with it. It's also worth noting that the Wiki generates an absolute ton of hits and traffic for Wikia (and thus advertising revenue), especially during the time the show is on-air, so clearly they want to get in on that to advertise Wikia as a whole. However, we are also only able to do the work on the Wiki that we do because of Wikia providing the service, so giving something back to them seems reasonable, as long as it does not disrupt the Wiki itself too much.--Werthead (talk) 10:34, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was a wikia-wide cross-promotion sort of thing (my criticisms were basically those off the Boy: having it on our front page would make people sign up just to compete then leave). But I didn't realize this was bigger than I thought it was. I guess I associated it with that girl who came on here trying to get us to sign up for her own fan awards despite never contributing, but this is different.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:57, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Why was it removed off the main page? Anything that is ever removed off the main page should be discussed (within reason of course). Something like that however, a slider created by a staff member, should not be removed. Will it be returning?
QueenBuffy 16:06, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
- I removed it because it wasn't discussed with us first.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 16:08, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
- It's pretty safe to say that if the wikia staff created it, it's safe to keep on the main page. QueenBuffy 16:10, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
- I removed it because it wasn't discussed with us first.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 16:08, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Redundant pic
Made a mistake. Didn't notice that this pic was already uploaded so just wondering if you or somebody wouldn't mind deleting it. Thanks in advance. http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/File:Title_sequence_the_twins.png CestWhat (talk) 18:59, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
I just discovered that you can protect uncreated articles.Gonzalo84 (talk) 02:14, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
- I was not aware. Then without delay, delete the article in question and protect its uncreated space.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:15, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
Kingsguard Season 3
Please, check the new forum on Kingsguard members in Season 3. Input would be appreciated.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 15:25, March 18, 2013 (UTC)
Hello from Wikia!
We've noticed the great work you've done on Game of Thrones Wiki and we were wondering if you have five minutes for a Skype chat this week. We have a couple of fun Wikia opportunities coming up, and we wanted to share them with you to get your input. Please message me back if you're interested. Thank you!
Cshannon (talk) 13:17, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Duplicate blogs
Hi Dragon.
If I may, I'd recommend deleting duplicate blogs, such as this. The Wikia staff have already created a "what will happen in season 3" blog, and allowing users to start multiple ones will result in the recent activity page being reduced to an un-navigable mess of shallow, inane comments.--250px40px 17:59, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
Irri's departure
Acharia has said very clearly on Reddit that the visa issue has been overcome and she could have stayed on the show easily, but the writers decided she should go. Have clarified that on the relevant pages. We can go back to being grumpy at Dan and Dave for the decision :) --Werthead (talk) 11:35, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
- ...Darn them. And Jhiqui has vanished into the ether.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:51, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
How does it work with the 'In the books' category. Which kind of info may be put in there to still be.. true to the series. I'm obviously new to editing anything on wikia :] Grumphy (talk) 21:23, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
Oh okay...thanks for your effort..."in the books" is supposed to be SPOILER FREE but relevant information from the books; it ceases to be a spoiler if the TV series outpaced it. For example, Joffrey's humiliation of Sansa in the courtroom in the fourth episode of season 2 was much more graphic in the books, so we might explain how that was done differently. Oh, just general background information that the books gave about the characters that the TV show hasn't yet but doesn't "spoil" anything. Just try and we'll correct stuff and you'll learn by example. When in doubt....if you're unsure of what to add, logically, don't add hundreds of posts a day (some idiot a few months back would make hundreds of bad edits a day to "in the books" while admitting that he didn't know what he was doing. This wasnt' "learning" this was "ignoring our warnings". Well, for that information you posted about Rhaegar for example (sorry I yelled) that stuff about his personality or appearance would go under "in the books" - it doesn't really spoil anything to say he enjoyed reading and was quite scholarly before taking up the sword, etc. This is "public knowledge" you see; but shocking revelations about Rhaegar from later books should not be put in (i.e. you really shouldn't bring up Jon Connington at this point). --The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:45, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer. I see now, and ofcourse no problem about the yelling. I understand it must be frustrating to see newcomers make bad edits while the rules have grown custom to you. I would really like to edit a few of those 'In the books' categories and will keep in mind what to write and what not to. Ofcourse I won't make many at the same time and I'll check if anyone changes what I wrote. I would really like to contribute to this wikia as I've been using it for a long time and this seems like a great opportunity to learn and keep expanding my knowledge of GoT. Again, thanks for your time and I promiss to do better in the future. Grumphy (talk) 23:50, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think she appears. It would be too much of a stretch in speculation.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 23:34, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I suppose so. Well, could we use a screenshot of her on the "Summer Islands" page?--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:40, March 24, 2013 (UTC)
Yup, actually. We can certainly have an article about it (it falls into the same category as grumpkins and snarks, or legendary stories). Once S3 kicks in, we can even bring in a comment about the proper giants in the world and how Macumba doesn't fit their description). Also, it doesn't matter if it's not mentioned in the books. If it's mentioned in the TV show, that's fair enough. I actually had a good thought on the canon/continuity differences between the two shows: GAME OF THRONES is the Marvel Ultimates version of ASoIaF. The same story and characters, but completely separate from the original with the freedom to do its own thing if it wants.--Werthead (talk) 22:07, March 26, 2013 (UTC)
I just saw that you decided to go ahead and block him.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:11, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, things were on a downward course. Particularly right before the Season 3 premiere, we don't need this. I did what had to be done. Well...do you disagree? You said he had strikes. If I misunderstood and you don't think he should remain banned, I will not oppose you.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 19:48, March 28, 2013 (UTC)
Knights and nobility
Knights are not considered to be nobility, but they have their own set of rights and privileges which are similar. They have the right to trial by combat and landed knights have the rights of laws and gallows (i.e. to set rules on their land which do not contravene the king's law and to execute criminals for heinous offences). In theory, a knight, even a hedge knight, should still be treated with respect and courtesy by everyone, although in practice a hedge knight will be looked down upon by a sworn sword or a lord. Being a knight is something of a big deal in Westeros (as seen by Ser Hugh refusing to talk even to the personal representative of the Hand of the King in Season 1 because he's not a knight), but not as big as being a proper lord.--Werthead (talk) 10:50, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
Chat? :) QueenBuffy 00:28, March 30, 2013 (UTC)
50 mins!
Are you excited?!! Ah, FINALLY time for Season 3! :) QueenBuffy 00:10, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Actually I'm enraged. Ch'Vyalthan took enough time from us (combined with CestWhat's pestering this past week) that we have a lot of work to do that we didn't finish. I do *loosely* have all of the Culture stuff I wanted to get up, well most of it (though it needs quotes and images). I kept putting off revamping the Dragons article for months; I want to lock it (every yahoo anonymous IP editor comes on to edit the shiny dragons article "because dragons are cool!", randomly inserts some sentences without realizing they're redundant, then leaves never to edit again. Also why I've at least blocked all of the major character articles from anonymous editing - seriously, the "Robb, Jon, Tyrion, Arya, Daenerys, Dragons" crowd buzzing the wiki just goof up the rest of us. (sigh) -- I should be done fixing up all the Culture stuff and such soon enough, but I haven't been able to rewatch the first two seasons "with a fine toothed comb", pausing scene by scene to squeeze every ounce of info out of them (I only just finished "Lord Snow"). I can't wait for episode 9 of Season 3, that's when all the shallow fans will get their surprise - the folks on Entertainment Weekly or blogs or whatever that only watch the show because it's "watercooler TV" or for the sex scenes; they have no idea what this story is.--The Dragon Demands (talk)
- I haven't read the books yet, but I am up-to-date on them and know the spoilers. The wedding scene is going to be rough! Do you think we should go ahead and lock/protect some main pages? QueenBuffy 00:23, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
Also, do you think we should change the "Episodes" tab up top? Remove "Pilot Episode" so that "Season 3" link can fit? QueenBuffy 00:29, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh seriously! Wow. I am so excited! Yeah, I noticed her dragon's had more "bad-ass" moments than Dany actually did. lol QueenBuffy 00:33, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yes. Anyone who wants to compare the pilot episode would be reading the article on "Winter is Coming" and see the link to "previous episode". By the way, I was interested in creating a new top-level tab on "Culture and Society" separate from "Episodes" and "Characters" so casual fans will find those easier (I suspect that most of them just click on "Tyrion Lannister" and the title of the most current episode - how would they even find "Faith of the Seven"?) - but I have no idea how to do that. Oh Dany gets "badass" moments independent of the dragons in book 3 -- well the dragons are cooler than ever and they are an extension of her, but we're not just staring at CGI dragons anymore; her story picks up. Remember: the idiot hands her the whip. He handed her the god-damned whip. Dear god I couldn't tell if I was laughing or crying.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:37, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
LOL! Oh man, I cannot wait! 20 more minutes. I'm so excited, but then I remember, before we know it... Season 3 will be over too :( I went ahead and protected Valar Dohaeris as well. For now, I will go ahead and remove the pilot tab and add Season 3- we can work on the others later :) QueenBuffy 00:42, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
I think a culture template infobox would be more accurate for human peoples. For example, it is implied that Dothraki and Lhazareen pretty much share teh same racial background, but their cultures are different.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 02:03, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
I noticed one of the soldiers at Harrenhal had an X broach on his armor. I know I've seen Joffrey torchering a guy, while chained/roped up in an X shape. What does a man on an X mean? QueenBuffy 06:23, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
Valar Dohaeris locked
I would have added a cast list to the episode, if the episode was not locked. If you want people to add something you have to unlock the page. I can see every episode page is locked.--Mesmermann (talk) 17:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh thanks for reminding me; it was locked to prevent knee-jerk over-editing during the hype of the season premiere night. I have unlocked it now.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:25, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
Hi there! I know the message you sent me was automatic, but thanks! But there's one thing I need help with also. I was looking through pages to see if they needed any editing and I came across the Sophie Turner page and I was about to edit it, but it was locked. Could you unlock it, please? Thanks again! :) {{SUBST:User:Lily!/sig}} 20:11, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
Admins who are inactive
Have you noticed we have a few Admins who have been inactive for quite sometime. Should they continue to be Admins? What is your take on it? QueenBuffy 02:23, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- ...I am deeply angered that they essentially abandoned us to suffer the deprivations of Ch'Vyalthan's Reign of Terror from October to January Fall 2012. The question is not "if" an inactive Administrator should continue in their position, but "how long" of an inactive period warrants removing their Adminship.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:50, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. LordofOnions is about 2 years inactive and KarinS is a year. Should we bring this to Werthead? QueenBuffy 03:00, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:01, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I am also asking the staff to change the word "Admin" on our profiles, to "Knight" :) QueenBuffy 03:14, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Indeed.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:01, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. LordofOnions is about 2 years inactive and KarinS is a year. Should we bring this to Werthead? QueenBuffy 03:00, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
I don't think we should change the name; I've seen problems with this on other wikis that take on specific in-universe names for Admins or Moderators. Titles like "Administrator" or "Moderator" are universal and carry weight when you're chewing people out. Fansites that call their Admins "Rangers" or "Wizards" etc., the title doesn't carry the same weight anymore.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:19, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Really? I've never seen a problem with it before, and I've had it on several Wikis. Hmm. Well if they do change it, and it causes an issue, we can always change it back QueenBuffy 03:26, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Real life often gets in the way of contributions. People get into relationships, get new jobs that are exhausting, or simply lose their passion for a project after putting tons of work into it. I'm certainly grateful to those admins and former contributors who did lots of work who, for whatever reason, are no longer contributing. If they also executed the position of admin well before in the past, I see no problem with them retaining the position if and when they return. Certainly I've been highly active on wikis in the past and have essentially given up on them to work on this one, but intermittently return to work on the others when I have the time. I see no reason to remove admin powers from anyone unless they are actually abusing them.--Werthead (talk) 11:23, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
For example, and as QueenBuffy knows, I am the Bureaucrat of Buffyverse Wiki, but have taken a long break because mantaining that site was a lot of work, and chose to contribute here. I don't know when I'll go back there.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 15:57, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
Well okay if Queenbuffy has nothing else to say either, then nevermind.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:56, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering about certain adjective vocab words on some pages. For example: in the Daenerys Targaryen article, the image states drogon is the size of a small dog, but in the description you wrote he is the size of a large dogS. i dont want to undo your change, but i do think it would be better to have consistency between the image text and the article text, also, Drogon is the size of a small dog, not a large one, it says so in the books (chapter 27) and also simply from common sense.Noc noc... whos their? Darknesssss (talk) 14:53, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh...I had intended to write "large dog" one every article, and if that was inconsistent it was a mistake. I'm a cat person so I kind of forget just how large dogs can get (St. Bernards, Mastiffs, etc.). If the books stated "small dogs", then yes we should say "small dogs" in our descriptions ( I remember from A Clash of Kings that Dany points out that Dragons seem a lot bigger than they actually are, because they're creatures of mostly wing, neck, and tail; their body cores are much smaller - which they'd kind of have to be, to in any way plausibly be able to carry their own weight in flight).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:08, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
Family name
On the SSM section of Westeros.org - the site is down again right now - GRRM actually outlines how surnames work in Westeros. Basically, there are no hard and fast rules. A woman from a powerful family might choose to keep her name if marrying into a less powerful one, explaining Cersei; Robert might be king, but the Lannisters are richer, older and more powerful by themselves than the Baratheons. OTOH, the Starks and Arryns are far more ancient, powerful and richer than the Tullys, so Cat and Lysa change their surnames. With equal families there might be a bit of give or take between them. This doesn't really help with the Talisa situation though, since the rules for changing names between Westerosi and Essosi marriages have never been established. Talisa now being called "Talisa Maegyr Stark" might be the best course, since, even if she is related to the ruling Maegyrs of Volantis, the Starks are still considerably more ancient (Winterfell having been founded 3,000 years earlier even than Valyria).--Werthead (talk) 17:50, April 2, 2013 (UTC)
Split Battle of the Camps from Whispering Wood
I was wondering, since you're one of the main contributors of Battle of the Whispering Wood article, if you could extract the "the Camps" info from it and create the Battle of the Camps article?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 18:12, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
Dark Wings, Dark Word Locked
Will you open Dark Wings, Dark Words when the episode aires because I want to add cast credits to the episode. Thanks.
--Mesmermann (talk) 19:14, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
CestWhat sockpuppets
I'll deal with them myself.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:11, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
- Damn, you went ahead... I wanted to showcase their flayed skins on my hall. Oh well--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:14, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
- Sockpuppets count as one person, they don't get new spikes on the wall.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:17, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
- I lay awake at night afraid that LovelyChrys, Ch'Vyalthan, and CestWhat are going to band together to form their own Legion of Doom (like an out of universe House Blackfyre). But they lack conviction.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:26, April 11, 2013 (UTC)
OMG DD now THAT is hilarious. Legion of Doom&Gloom! lol QueenBuffy 18:16, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
- I do imagine CestWhat getting annoyed with Ch'vyalthan's not understanding anything while Chrys tries to make everyting all about her, and then yelling "I'm surrounded by idiots".
Another CestWhat sockpuppet, I think. First few edits have been fiddling around with the "née" in female character intros.--250px40px 17:22, April 14, 2013 (UTC)
House Lannister
Oh, they have always been my favorite... I don't know why it took me so long to update my home page! lol QueenBuffy 01:16, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- In the trailer for And Now His Watch is Ended, do you know who the character is, who is wearing the eye patch? I have a good screencap of him. QueenBuffy 04:55, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe that is Beric Dondarrion, leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:57, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Ahh, you guys are so smart!!!! QueenBuffy 05:08, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- I believe that is Beric Dondarrion, leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:57, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
Whores from the books
I clearly heard "Marei". Don't remember well the other two.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 02:54, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Problem is that I'd only be spelling them phonetically. Funny thing is I heard complaints that there was "a lot of nudity" in this episode, but to be honest, I think it's not too bad so long as 1 - It's an established, canon couple (Robb/Talisa - why was there no Eddard/Catelyn as in the books?), or 2 - it's an actual brothel with "customers". Some of the "sexposition" scenes strained credibility. But "Tyrion and Bronn reward Pod with a trip to Littlefinger's brothel" - plausible enough without inventing new..."scenarios". --The Dragon Demands (talk) 03:00, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
Character bios
Remember that these should be concise summaries of the characters' actions, not hyper-detailed narrations of entire scenes.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:23, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I know, thank you for making the Missandei article more concise; when I'm in a hurry I just write all I can and don't focus on concision (the logic being that it's easy to cut extra stuff out later).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:24, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
Josephine Gillan as Marei
Good work on spotting she's the "new prostitute" in Season 2... could you please merge the two articles while I work on "Kayla".--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:26, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh I wasn't the one that noticed that. I'll get on the characters...--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:27, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
Just wanted to mention- I know you are tired of seeing the same ol' mistakes from editors, but remember to try and remain friendly. Your tone can come off rather "harsh" and we want to keep contributors coming back here :) QueenBuffy 06:00, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, okay.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:06, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Princes in the Tower
I think there may be an echo of them there, but much more overt is the reference of the 'Princesses in the Tower', King Baelor's sisters whom he locked in the Maidenvault of the Red Keep so they would not tempt him to carnal thoughts. They had a happier ending though :) --Werthead (talk) 07:08, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
- The phrase, yes, but Richard III didn't exactly lock up Edward V to prevent him from tempting him with carnal thoughts.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:07, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Spare time we don't have.
I know we don't really have "spare" time, but if you happen to find some, I could use some help going through these uncategorized files and either delete them, or categorize them properly. I figured if we all do a little here and there, they will eventually get finished :) Special:UncategorizedFiles QueenBuffy 20:14, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
Interview with talent from Game of Thrones
Hi, Please let fans know that I did an interview with Michele Clapton, who designs the beautiful costumes for Game of Thrones. It can be read at http://thecmagaznineonline.com
Brenda18.104.22.168 23:45, April 16, 2013 (UTC)
There's only one ship they have at all, which filled in as Theon's ship at the start of Season 2, Black Betha, Fury and Daenerys's ship as well. They actually wanted to build two of different designs and sizes so they could vary it up, but HBO said no.--Werthead (talk) 15:26, April 18, 2013 (UTC)
Another sockpuppet??--Gonzalo84 (talk) 05:02, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Contacting Wikia Staff
You should be able to find an appropriate link to them Here. Someone will contact you via email or through this Wikia page within 2 business days usually. QueenBuffy 05:12, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Dragon Titles
While i do belive Daenerys's Dragons should still be named after there book names, some people might not know them, and thus search them under the names "Black Dragon", "Green Dragon", and "White Dragon". Is there anyway to make it so if someone searches said names it redirects to them? Like adding to there articles "Drogon, also know as the black dragon" as an example.Noc noc... whos their? Darknesssss (talk) 08:53, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Small Council Image
If you look at the image details here: File:Small Council meeting.png You will see that his image was on lots of other pages. You may want to go through them and delete the broken links; or restore the image and mess with it later. Just wanted to give ya heads up :) QueenBuffy 17:54, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh crud. Thanks for the headsup I'll check out the other pages.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:57, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Yo, i think this guy: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/18.104.22.168
Put a bunch of links on the new episode article, they are spam.
Locked page
It's hard for me to edit And Now His Watch is Ended when it's locked. Wll you please unlock it.--Mesmermann (talk) 02:33, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, sorry; as you can see from the above post, people kept vandalizing it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:52, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
And now his watch is ended
Just finished the episode... one word. WOW! You were right about Dany! That was just amazing! QueenBuffy 06:12, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- I told you: book 3 is why people are Daenerys fans, not even the book 1 Dothraki stuff so much (as a guy, the whole "swept away by fierce barbarian whom I nonetheless master with seduction" pulp trashy romance novel storyline kind of stuff....I really don't grasp very well. But that's why I didn't think to make a Dany/Drogo page...). The idiot hands her the whip. Oh god you should have seen this in the books: the cat-o-nine-tails they give her has razor-blades stuck at the ends so it will really tear flesh off of any slave you hit with it: after saying "a dragon is no slave", Daenerys punctuates this by quickly slashing the whip across Kraznys' face....ripping a large amount of Kraznys' flesh off his face. TV show chose not to do that, eh, might have been too much for TV.
- From here on out, this Targaryen party is going on tour.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 06:18, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- I cannot wait! That ending gave me chills!!! It was AHHH, just so great! BTW, I noticed you've been blocking a lot of users who may or may not be CestWhat. We need to somehow be really sure it's the sockpuppet before blocking. I'd hate if we blocked innocent editors. Oh, I was really surprised by Joer's death too! I didn't see that coming! QueenBuffy 07:22, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- They follow an insultingly similar pattern: no one else is really editing dialogue templates and working on family trees, I mean *new* users don't just jump on and start doing that. So far, anyway, no one has followed up by complaining (using anonymous IP address) that their account was banned for no reason; pretty sure it was actually CestWhat each time.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:32, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Certain bastard
Soo.. from what we've learned from the fourth episode this season, do you think it's safe to unite the pages of certain character and certain Boy, or do you think that we stil need a confirmation? [1]--KIWIBOλ (talk) 21:45, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I think it would still be a spoiler by this point. Perhaps after "Kissed by Fire" we'll be able to merge them. QueenBuffy 20:44, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- We've all known who is who since before Season 3 began. It's not a matter of if "we" fans know: the wiki needs to be spoiler-free for fans who haven't read the books. Similarly, when Season 1 began, we couldn't just write "Joffrey isn't really Robert's son", that was obvious, but had to wait until the show actually revealed it. So until we hear "the name" on screen, we can't use it - heck, his name hasn't actually appeared in dialogue at all yet; his dad refers to "his bastard" but that's it.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:00, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- His name is mentioned in a letter, but lets keep it that way for now.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:04, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- While they did release a good official photo of that letter in the "Inside the Episode" feature, it wasn't visible on-screen. Again the casual fans don't really pay attention to such things.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:07, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- His name is mentioned in a letter, but lets keep it that way for now.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:04, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
That's what I've been saying about all of the characters who don't have names who've been given them on the wiki :) For this one in particular, I have no idea. Mago was explicitly named on-screen and then killed off (when he's set to reappear, apparently in a fairly major way, in Book 6). Who knows what's going on with Marillion? So the character being killed off has no real bearing on whether he's the book character or not. In this instance I'd call him Master Torturer until we get any more confirmation.--Werthead (talk) 09:26, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- We aren't sure if Marillion is dead.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:28, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Hello, a question, doing various proofreading for english errors I did find some and wanted to fix them. I have found the pages locked and would like to know if I am a registered user? Is there a reveal somewhere as to what pages are locked for editing? Thank-you, Susan AeSusan Ae (talk) 16:17, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- oh...we locked some of the major character pages because we had problems with people posting spoilers in them, i.e. "Robb Stark". We can't really lift the protection right now (though if there's a huge problem I guess you could point it out on an article's talk page).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 16:31, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Season links
Oh, really? I thought that was a general faux pas. I'll go correct any that I removed. Thanks for the heads up!
- @ (profile)•(talk)•(email) 17:25, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- well, uh (embarassed) I don't know if that's the format Werthead wants us to use, I just sort of assumed all this time that it was.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:29, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, I always put links in the headers, since if you don't, you then need to then put a link in the body text underneath, which can result in awkward and redundant phrasing ("Season 2: In [[Season 2]] the character blah blah") rather than just getting on with the entry.--Werthead (talk) 11:45, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Links to AWoIAF
at the end of "(spoilers from the books)." you don't need to add a period. Its not a sentence, just a phrase, like a headline.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 18:44, April 24, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the info
Iv have heard about the spoilers that you wrote before, but thanks anyway. My question mainly aimed at the Stak family. Was is it or going to be totaly eliminated? replaced and so on. I understand it is more than just about that family that everything is combined in the story. Anyway despite the negative acts and defeat - still cheer and respect the house of stark! Thanks
20:58, April 24, 2013 (UTC)Scare Cr0w
I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come!"
Well done!
You, unlike us at the DowntonAbbey Wiki, have finally managed to deal with CestWhat. I want him gone - and utterly blocked - from the other wiki, but he/she/it never will be.
I thought I'd just write to congratulate you on doing THE BEST THING EVER!HarryPotterRules1 (talk) 21:45, April 25, 2013 (UTC)
What was the prostitute's name that slept with Loras? I have his picture... QueenBuffy 06:33, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Olyvar.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 06:37, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Feel free to make changes as you see fit, but sleeping with someone just for information does seem rather "prostitue-ish" lol QueenBuffy 07:00, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Garlan and Willas...
Have both been removed from the updated House Tyrell family tree in the Season 3 Viewer's Guide. Not sure how you want to handle this?--250px40px 08:28, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
- They were removed in Season 2, just like Shireen. Tywin's line doesn't deny their existance, just that Loras is the eldest son of Mace.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 15:07, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
- We're discussing this over on the episode talk page. But yeah, Shireen was also removed as were some other third-tier characters, so I think there's a chance they might later choose to forget that they said he is "the" heir. I've already asked about this in the cargo cult.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:12, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
Willas and Garlan
The two might not be removed in the series, it could simply be that Loras was made the eldest son rather than Willas.
DRAEVAN13 15:32, April 29, 2013 (UTC)
How did you know it was another sockpuppet?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:02, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know for sure. I've come to suspect anyone working on family tree templates, because rarely will new users start working on those. I suspect anyone who recently joined the wiki, provides no background information or outside confirmation of identity. Well, new to "wikia" - some people are "new" but have clearly had a long editing history on other Wikia sites, that proves they're not sockpuppets. HOWEVER, my running theory has been that if I ban someone who turns out to not be CestWhat, they'd complain about it. So far, no one has complained, leading me to believe it is indeed Cestwhat.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 02:52, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure this user is another CestWhat sock-puppet, but I've filed a "check user" request with the Wikia staff, just to make sure. I'm also going to inquire into ways of dealing with her permanently; for example: blocking her actual IP range, and preventing her from editing Wikia in it's entirety. She must be creating dozens of new accounts each week in anticipation of being blocked.--250px40px 09:01, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm completely willing to block the entire geographical region of Toronto if that's what it takes. Indeed, I've been blocking Toronto-based anonymous IP addresses on sight and will continue to do so. The only reason I haven't is because our blocking tools can't easily be set up to block areas by geographical region. Yes, one bad user can and did "ruin it" for an entire major world city; there will never be another Toronto-based editor on this wiki for the next five seasons that this TV series runs and beyond (unless, they already have a profile on another Wikia site, dating to before 2013, so we know it isn't CestWhat). If the inhabitants of Toronto are upset about this, they should take it up with CestWhat. Until such time as the inhabitants of Toronto string up CestWhat from a lamppost...the entire city must be blocked forever.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:02, May 1, 2013 (UTC)
- She's clearly obsessed. Although I wish we could block entire geographical regions - knowing CestWhat - she'd probably move to Azerbaijan, or someplace; anything to continue making minor edits on a wiki whose community wants nothing whatsoever to do with her. Anyway, I was right about Clearen, and I've asked Wikia to check the IP's of some other accounts that have been cropping up recently. At this stage that's all we can do.--250px40px 09:31, May 2, 2013 (UTC)
The Rains of Castamere (episode)
I will love to add a synopses to the episode, when you and other admins is busy, but it is a little hard to do, when it's locked. I have added a synoses to Mhysa --Mesmermann (talk) 15:56, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
Size of Dog
I'm confused by the dragon being size of a "Small Dog". That's a rough description. The dragon's look huge, more like a large dog, not like a small "Beagle" or "terrier". QueenBuffy 18:09, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Well, in comparison to a mastiff or a St. Bernard. We're talking about the dragon's body core, not the wings. Daenerys specifically points out in the books that dragons are actually a lot smaller than they seem at first, because they're mostly wing, tail, and neck -- they have to be, in order to be light enough that their wings can proportionately give them enough lift to fly at all.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:11, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, that makes sense. I could see them more the size of a Beagle now, rather than a Mastiff lol QueenBuffy 18:41, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Also, how do I block someone "infinite"? I always click on "another length if time" and write in "infinite" but it says "invalid time" or something. QueenBuffy 18:46, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Ok, that makes sense. I could see them more the size of a Beagle now, rather than a Mastiff lol QueenBuffy 18:41, May 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Weird... I always type "infinite" and the lockdown prodceeds. Have you tried with "indefinite"
I will try indefinite next time :) Thanks QueenBuffy 23:34, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Would you try to add a "Northener" or "Northmen" article?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:41, May 7, 2013 (UTC)
Pixie Le Knot
Not entirely unprecedented: we've had a few edits to the actor articles that seemed to be made either by the actors or friends or family. As long as they do good edits, don't post anything dodgy and, if possible, source things, there's no problem.--Werthead (talk) 11:42, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Grazdan mo ErazNot sure where to even begin on his page (what to say about him that is) but I uploaded his image for whoever makes it :) QueenBuffy 04:19, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
Theon & Ramsay
In the books Ramsay has only recently been taken away from his existence as a peasant and made a member of House Bolton (only a year or so before AGoT), so this kind of power is still new to him, and Theon is certainly the first highborn person to come into his power. So I think it's basically that: a grubby worm (though intelligent) raised to high station who can get back at the world for the misfortunes of his early life, and the more powerful the person he can humiliate and break, the better.--Werthead (talk) 10:23, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I suppose that's it. I mean the "highborn" ironbmen at Moat Cailin or the other Northerners at the siege like Rodrik? He was in a hurry so he couldn't take his sweet time (though I question why he wouldn't want to torture Rodrick...yeah maybe that was also a matter of being in a hurry). But yeah...Theon's only the first...I mean the stuff he does once Jeyne Poole is under his power (shudder).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 14:26, May 13, 2013 (UTC)
Comment on Scare Cr0w's talk page
It may be that I'm completely wrong and I've been missreading the books the whole time, but I'm fairly certain I'm right. If not could to tell me where to find those parts? DRAEVAN13 19:09, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
- (I was intentionally mixing small exaggerations in with the truth to yank his chain).--The Dragon Demands (talk) 08:18, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
Hey its Buffy
Hey, I cleared my cache, now I can't remember my password. Anyway, I am going to go to bed for the night, but here are a couple of pictures you guys can use. "Old Man" and "Mary Frey". ....well, never mind, it won't let me even upload the pictures without logging in.... QueenBuffy
Did you see my talk page about the nav boxes? QueenBuffy 03:01, June 4, 2013 (UTC)
Did you listen?!!! :D QueenBuffy 01:11, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- About to: I missed out on a week of editing, and I'm busy "collecting the heads of state".--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:13, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Love we can always count on you for that ;) QueenBuffy 01:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC) (I'm about to archive your crap for you if you don't... lol)
- I was going to archive it after the last episode of Season 3 airs in four days; that way it neatly forms a "Season 3 archive".--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:24, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Ahhh, makes sense :) After you listen to the podcast, lets discuss. QueenBuffy 01:26, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Love we can always count on you for that ;) QueenBuffy 01:14, June 6, 2013 (UTC) (I'm about to archive your crap for you if you don't... lol)
Jaime s1 pic
Do you know who/why Jaime's infobox image is reverted back to Season 1 Episode 1 of him, and not the most recent? QueenBuffy 15:40, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Some new guy named "System2448" screwed with it, adding in an image of Season 1 which was also a "thumb" so it displayed improperly (then someone else tried to fix it by removing the house allegiance images). I reverted the second edit, to get the house allegiance images back, not realizing the error was with the first guy - should be fixed now.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:45, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- We don't need no System messing with zee'System!!! <-- my best Austin Powers bad-guy impression. And yes, it is fixed now... we all know we can't have my beloved Jaime's page a mess! lol QueenBuffy 15:55, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Boltons as great house
At least wait until the show brings it up.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 15:43, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, I realize now. Things were hectic and confused the night of the episode, didn't realize they hadn't established that yet. Indeed, from trailer, I think the next episode picks up immediately after the last one, as we see Roose Bolton staring out over the burning Stark camp at the Twins.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:46, June 6, 2013 (UTC)
Sooo, you excited about tonight's finale!? After last week, I'm not sure what to expect! QueenBuffy 17:23, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm excited because I know what happens in the book, but I'm not really sure where the cutoff point is going to be. Certain events which blatantly happened in the last 50 pages or so of the book certainly won't appear, but other major events might happen. Like, the Joffrey/Margaery wedding introduces many new characters such as Oberyn Martell, but they haven't even been cast yet (not too spoilery to say that the wedding is going to happen, they've been setting it up). So I don't know if they're going to have the Joffrey/Margaery wedding.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:26, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah I wasn't sure about that either... since Jaime is returning, and there will be a certain moment... in a certain "Sept".. lol. I'm not quite sure how this will play out. That's a lot to fill in one hour, but I suppose it could be done. QueenBuffy 17:30, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
- One of the big shocks of the Red Wedding is that it really happens in the middle of the third book, maybe even a little before the middle; it isn't even at the part of the book you expect a climax like that. I think it may have been a mistake for the TV show to put it at episode 9, because something "big" always happens at the end of the season, in episode 9 (Ned's execution, Battle of the Blackwater). Though on the other hand they split book 3 across Season 3 and Season 4 (because it's the longest book), and this is preferable to cramming it all in one season, even though it means the Red Wedding ended up being used as the "season finale" of sorts (episode 10 is always an epilogue). But yeah, I thought they might do more of one storyline or another (pushing Daenerys and Jon Snow's entire storylines into season 4), but instead, it's been pretty even across all storylines so far: the Lannister, Targaryen, Baratheon, and Night's Watch storylines are all roughly in synch with the point they were at in the middle of the third book when the Red Wedding happened.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 17:37, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah I wasn't sure about that either... since Jaime is returning, and there will be a certain moment... in a certain "Sept".. lol. I'm not quite sure how this will play out. That's a lot to fill in one hour, but I suppose it could be done. QueenBuffy 17:30, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
Re: Guest Star
Hey, I know it is not a complete quote, but as I explained in a past edit summary, an extra piece of information has a comma before it, here is an example:
- Eddard Stark to his bastard son.
There is how it should be....but to add a name is more information, that is sometimes not needed, so adding the name would be set like this:
- Eddard Stark to his bastard son, Jon Snow.
Do you see what I mean? This is to clear up what edits I have done before, because some of it got removed. But about the period, I added a bit more information...and then added the period. - Liam "BanishU" Michaels (talk) 22:36, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
- Sometimes who they say it to is inconsequential, though other times it does matter who they're talking to.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:40, June 9, 2013 (UTC)
Martell family tree
It had Arianne, Quentyn and Ellaria Sand on it despite not being yet established in TV canon. It was also a creation of CestWhat under the new sockpuppet: Martelling.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 04:26, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
- I considered that we should lock the Family Tree templates so only Administrators can edit them. Then I decided no, because Cestwhat is stupid or obsessed enough to keep editing family tree templates, under each new username, even after I have expressly warned her that one of the primary reasons we keep figuring out it's her again is because she's almost the only non-Administrator who edits family tree templates. Thus they should remain unlocked, simply because it's a good way of detecting Cestwhat when she screws with them.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 04:34, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
Lock categories
What we should lock from anons its categories. The category vandal shows up twice a week, from a different IP address.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:55, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. This demonstrates the need to lock things. One bad anonymous user can, and has, ruined it for everyone else.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:51, June 14, 2013 (UTC)
What did he do?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 21:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
- He inserted into Peter Dinklage's page [2] that Dinklage had just died in a car accident.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 21:53, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
How canon are actor and producer conversations?
I'm just wondering, because Iwan Rheon gave a nice interview about his development of Ramsay with D&D. Among the aspects of his character they discussed was the conception by rape, and the murder of Domeric. Should this information be taken as canon?-- 10:47, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
- Things actors state in interviews are slightly below the aired episodes in terms of canon (i.e. if Finn Jones talked about Willas and Garlan, then an episode said he's the only Tyrell son, he would be mistaken). At least, such actor statements would go under the "Behind the Scenes" section, as anything an actor says is at least "relevant". In general, though, we wouldn't put information about Domeric in the main sections of articles; even if the actor mentions the murder, it hasn't happened in the show yet - however, it would go on his page under "behind the scenes" and later get "promoted" to the main canon section.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:58, June 12, 2013 (UTC)
Removing Barra and Mhaegen
Under that precedent, Gendry should also be removed.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:41, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Gendry is important enough of a character to warrant mention, as it is a character guide as well as family guide. All of Robert's other bastard children, and Stannis' three stillborn sons, do not serve much function as independent entries in the family tree. I'll at least finish first so you can see what I'm trying to achieve.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 00:43, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Other family trees
- Martells: One with Doran, Oberyn, Elia (her children and Rhaegar) and Trystane.
- Florents: lets wait until more members are revealed or mentioned. I guess we'll get a few more Florents in the future
- Tarlys: They deserve one with Randyll, Melessa and Sam
- Tarths: Likewise
- Tyrells: Like you said: Margaery, then Loras, then Willas and then Garlan.
- Freys: I guess in the following seasons we'll get more Freys and, hopefully, we'll get a viewers guide tree
- Karstarks: Lets have one with only Torrhen and Harrion and update it if new Karstarks appear in the future.
- Pooles: The Pooles deserve one
- Marbrands: Addam "appeared" and Damon was mentioned, they deserve one as well.
--Gonzalo84 (talk) 00:57, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- The Baratheon one is proving to be tougher than I thought. As for the Freys, the current template is actually good enough to suffice until we get a new Viewer's Guide update.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:29, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Tyrell family tree
Could you restore Willas and Garlan?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 16:57, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Cassel and Poole
Has Beth Cassel been established in any way in the show?. Also, I think that the wives shouldn't be referred to as "Lady Cassel" or "Lady Poole", since neither Cassels nor Pooles are "lords".--Gonzalo84 (talk) 07:49, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Martin himself has acknowledged how vague and nonspecific his ranks and terminology of nobility are: everyone who isn't a king is called a "lord" instead of "Duke" or something. The problem is that every "highborn" gets called "lord" or "lady" by default, without being the actual "Lord" or "Lady" (capital L) of something. For example, Arya would be called "my lady" without actually being Lady of anything.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 08:24, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Beth hasn't been established in the show yet, but as it's just a family tree and she's not that big of a character (as opposed to revealing who Ramsay Snow was in Season 2), I didn't think it would hurt anything.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:16, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Joanna and Stafford Lannister tree
Nice job.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 07:50, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
Main Lannister tree
Adding Trystane is confusing. It might lead someone to think he's Myrcella's lover as Jaime and Cersei have the same type of line.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 17:38, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- In general, I thought we were using the dotted lines to represent "significant romantic pairing" that wasn't a marriage, i.e. Loras and Renly, and that this went up to and including betrothal. Myrcella and Trystane do seem to have a surprisingly good relationship, all things considered. I thought we'd use them for "betrothal" as well, particularly because I've encountered people who forgot that Myrcella got paired up with Trystane.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 18:15, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- The dotted line was used to refer to "sexual liaison" outside marriage. Under that precedent, Shae should also be in the Lannister tree, even more so than Trystane.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:54, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
The Pest
I think we should include Werthead on this. I have deleted EVERY contribution of the latest sockpuppet I detected but I agree its not enough.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 08:35, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
"From this moment on... There will be no further reprisals against civilians. This was stupid. Impotence. Comrades... If a fox stole your chickens... Would you slaughter your pig because he saw the fox? No. You would hunt the fox... You would find where it lives and destroy it! And how do we do this? Become a fox." --The Dragon Demands (talk) 13:23, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
Florent family tree
Do we know for certain Imry Florent is dead?. Also, you should add Stannis and Shireen to it.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 01:46, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not finished with it yet; it will be finished (and open to revision) when I openly post it in main articles (which will be in a few minutes). The show didn't establish that Imry is dead, but then again it only identified him as "Imry Florent" in the credits - I thought this was a good example of one of those moments where we use the books to fill in the gaps. Certainly, for a guy acting as Stannis' lieutenant at the Battle of the Blackwater, we never see him again in all of Season 3.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 01:49, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
The CestWhat Saga
If you've reported it to the relevant Wikia authorities, is there much more we can do?--Werthead (talk) 15:03, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm inexperienced with this kind of thing, so I'm not sure if I indeed reported it to the correct authorities at Wikia: what I'm asking is if the complaint I filed was indeed sent to the proper section.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 15:05, June 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm going to move the Family Tree templates up from "Block new users" to "Block non-Administrators" -- how long does a member have to be on the site before they are no longer considered "new". According to her contributions page, she was able to edit House Templates locked with "Block New Users" after only four days of editing.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 22:53, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
- ...you're right, she will. We will have to resort to "Plan R". God help us all.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:06, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
Mdreyes1228 was blocked for spamming. I don't think it was the pest. The username doesn't fir the profile.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 01:17, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
- CestWhat is out of control. I could only hope that this person seeks professional help in their real life. Talk about wasting your time trolling the Game of Thrones wiki lol QueenBuffy 01:19, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
The Mountain That Talks
The return of Ch'vyalthan?--Gonzalo84 (talk) 22:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
- I doubt it; Ch'vyalthan was even worse than this, made even more ridiculous mistakes, had a different typing style, and would have been making far more edits.--The Dragon Demands (talk) 23:00, June 26, 2013 (UTC)
Massacre of the Stark household
Per the example set by the Red Wedding article, I think should we have one named "Massacre at the Red Keep", since ifs one of the events that plunges the realm into war. What do you think.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:23, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
War of the Five Kings template
I have created a War of the Five Kings template: Template:WarOfTheFiveKings. Be sure to take a look and improve it anyway you see fit. I also think we should find some kind of name of the raid of Amory Lorch against Yoren and the Watch recruits. The books make no mention on where it takes place.--Gonzalo84 (talk) 19:23, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
- So it turns out that, according the books, the nameless holdfast is located in a town by the Gods Eye. What do you think of "Raid by the God's Eye"? --Gonzalo84 (talk) 20:23, June 27, 2013 (UTC)
Hey, I'm having some problems. There are some pages I'm unable to edit. Say, I'm able to edit Tyrion's page but nit Bran's. Do you know why this is? Etindel (talk) 03:06, July 6, 2013 (UTC)


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DFG tries to reintroduce Lahontan Cutthroat to Lake Tahoe
The Department of Fish and Game hopes to reestablish a population of the true native Lahontan Cutthroat trout in Lake Tahoe, and 70,000 young fish made a big splashdown about a month ago.
A reader wrote to remind me that Lake Tahoe's population of Lake Trout — more commonly called mackinaw — are not native to Lake Tahoe. The only true native is the Lahontan Cutthroat.
That is true. The Lahontan Cutthroat dates back 70,000 years in Lake Tahoe but virtually disappeared with two reasons cited: One, a healthy appetite that supported a commercial fishery; two, the big mackinaw munched on them as a great food source.
It was officially declared around 1938 that the Lahontan Cutthroat no longer was present in Lake Tahoe's waters.
If either the mackinaw was eliminated or commercial fishing wasn't allowed, would there now be a native population of the Lahontan Cutthroat?
That's now a rhetorical question, but I would argue the commercial fishery had a greater impact on the Lahontan Cutthroat population than did the introduction of mackinaw. As a comparison, look what happened to the population of bison throughout the United States when they were hunted commercially.
Lake Trout were introduced into Lake Tahoe before 1900, when they were brought west from Michigan. At that time, besides the mackinaw, the commercial fishery in Lake Tahoe was going strong.
And since then, a great many other species have been introduced into the lake, including rainbow, brook and German brown trout in the early 1900s.
Kokanee salmon, a landlocked species of sockeye salmon, were added by the DFG in the 1940s, primarily as a food source for the big trout. They weren't expected to survive but wound up thriving and became a fishery of their own.
Even warm-water fish such as bass, sunfish and catfish were introduced into the lake in the late 1980s, early 1990s and thrive in some areas.
Crawdads are in the lake. They aren't native and were discovered in the mid 1930s. Mysis shrimp were put into the lake as a food source primarily for the kokanee salmon in the mid 1960s.
Will the introduction of the Lahontan Cutthroat survive? Only time will tell.
Dove season to open
Bird hunters eagerly await the opening of the state's dove hunting season, which has yet to be announced by the DFG.
The season should open on its traditional date of Thursday, Sept. 1, and run for 15 days.
It's a relaxed shoot. It's a fun shoot.
While the best hunting dictates you get into the field at virtually the crack of dawn, it's a time when you can be out there in a short-sleeve shirt with a box or two of shells. If you scout ahead of time and find a decent flyway path, you stand in one spot and fire away with little physical effort.
The only downside is swarms of mosquitoes early, so have the repellant handy. Once the sun begins warming the air, they generally disappear.
Opening day always provides the best shooting. The birds haven't been shot at so they're easy targets. After a few rounds have been fired, they wise up quickly and their flight patterns can become squirrely, twisting, doing barrel rolls.
Put out a couple of decoys where they can be seen, like on a fence line. I use up to a half dozen, and they work quite well. They may not attract birds as duck decoys will, but they can put the birds more at ease as they near your position.
Most hunters go on opening day and maybe the second. Few hunt the full 15 days. Just know you have 15 days available to add birds to the bag.
The limit is 10 birds per day with 20 in possession, and only the mourning dove is allowed. If you pluck your birds in the field, as I do, leave one wing feathered so the bird can be identified in case you're checked by a warden.
Shooting times are one-half hour before sunrise to sunset. You'll need the Upland Bird Stamp with your 2011-12 hunting license.
Current fishing
Lake Oroville: The lake is all but to the brim, and the bass fishing is wide open. Sticking 40 bass in an outing isn't uncommon. The topwater bite is good in early mornings and late afternoons. Japanese Pond Smelt escaped many years ago from Lake Almanor and wound up in Oroville, now providing quite a food source for many fish, including bass. When bass push them to the surface, any wounded-looking lure will get you bit. Roboworms and Senkos are taking their share as well.
Local salmon: It's hit and miss at the mouths of the Feather River at Verona and the American River at Discovery. One day, there are fish being caught; the next, you sit and watch your pole sit idle. Just put in the time, and eventually, your rod will take that wanting dive. Salmon-specific spinners and Kwikfish are getting bit. In the Nimbus Dam basin, there are more anglers trying than there are salmon being caught.
Folsom Lake: Get on the water early and, if you can, on a weekday. There are too many recreational boaters on weekends to do any good. You have to do considerable casting to get bit. It's downright tough in these summer doldrums, but cranks, plastics and topwater offerings occasionally are getting bit.
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- This article is about the song, for the episode named after it see The Rains of Castamere (episode)
The Rains of Castamere is a famous song in the world of Game of Thrones. The song is the basis of the Lannisters' leitmotif in the TV series' musical score.
The Rains of Castamere immortalized the destruction of House Reyne by Tywin Lannister. House Reyne was obliterated after they rebelled against their liege lord, Tytos Lannister, who was perceived as weak by his own vassals. To restore Lannister dominance, Tytos' son, Tywin, marched against the upstart Lord Reyne. By the end of the rebellion, Castamere had been put to the torch and all members of House Reyne executed. The title is thus a play on words, as the "rains" fall over the empty halls of the "Reynes" who have been killed to the last man.[1]The lyrics heavily reference the fact that the sigil of House Reyne was also a lion, but a red one instead of the golden lion used as the sigil of House Lannister. The rebellion of the Reynes against the Lannisters was thus seen as a clash of lions.
In the decades since young Tywin reasserted House Lannister's dominance by crushing the Reynes, The Rains of Castemere went on to become very popular with soldiers of the Westerlands, becoming an "anthem" of sorts for House Lannister. This extends to the point that even Western soldiers sometimes refer to it simply as, "the Lannister song".[2]
Season 2
Tyrion can be heard whistling the tune to the song when he arrives at the Small Council in King's Landing for the first time.[3] Tyrion is heard whistling it again while on his way to visit Shae, when he is surprised to find that Varys is there with her.[4]
Bronn and a number of Lannister men-at-arms sing the song while drinking and whoring prior to the Battle of the Blackwater. When they ask how he came to know "the Lannister song" he simply replies, "Drunk Lannisters."[5]
Season 3
Thoros of Myr sings the Rains of Castamere as he crosses the Riverlands alongside Anguy and other members of the Brotherhood Without Banners.[6]
- And who are you, the proud lord said,
- that I must bow so low?
- Only a cat of a different coat,
- that's all the truth I know.
- In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
- a lion still has claws,
- And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
- as long and sharp as yours.
- And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
- that Lord of Castamere,
- But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
- with no one there to hear.
- Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
- and not a soul to hear.
Behind the scenes
The version used in the TV series' soundtrack was recorded by the American indie rock band The National, and appears on the Game of Thrones Season 2 Soundtrack, as well as over the closing credits for the episode "Blackwater."[5]
In the books
In the A Song of Ice and Fire novels, The Rains of Castamere was composed after Tywin Lannister's victory over their rebellious bannermen: House Reyne of Castamere and the ancient House Tarbeck of Tarbeck Hall. Lord Tytos Lannister, Tywin's father, had been a kind but weak ruler. He loaned money to lords who never bothered to repay him and his vassals openly ignored his orders and mocked him in court. When Lord Reyne, known as the Red Lion of Castamere, and Lady Ellyn Tarbeck rose in rebellion, Tywin took it upon himself to deal with the rebellion and wiped out both of the upstart lords, their families and households and put their seats of power to the torch.
Later when another lord and Tywin Lannister had a disagreement over a matter, Tywin Lannister's reply was a minstrel sent with a harp to play the song to this lord who immediately changed his mind and complied.
It is noted as being one of the few songs that the stern Tywin Lannister seems to enjoy, as he is fond of the lyrics.
See also
- A recording of the song by The National.
- The Rains of Castamere at A Wiki of Ice and Fire (MAJOR SPOILERS from the books).
- ↑ "The Complete Guide to Westeros: House Lannister"
- ↑ "Blackwater"
- ↑ "The North Remembers"
- ↑ "The Night Lands"
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 "Blackwater"
- ↑ "Dark Wings, Dark Words"


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(a) In General.— The Secretary shall require, as a condition of including any vessel in the Fleet, that the person that is the owner or operator of the vessel for purposes of section 53102 (c) enter into an operating agreement with the Secretary under this section.
(b) Extension of Existing Operating Agreements.—
(1) Offer to extend.— Not later than 60 days after the date of enactment of this paragraph, the Secretary shall offer, to an existing contractor, to extend, through September 30, 2025, an operating agreement that is in existence on the date of enactment of this paragraph. The terms and conditions of the extended operating agreement shall include terms and conditions authorized under this chapter, as amended from time to time.
(2) Time limit.— An existing contractor shall have not later than 120 days after the date the Secretary offers to extend an operating agreement to agree to the extended operating agreement.
(c) Procedure for Awarding New Operating Agreements.— The Secretary may enter into a new operating agreement with an applicant that meets the requirements of section 53102 (c) (for vessels that meet the qualifications of section 53102 (b)) on the basis of priority for vessel type established by military requirements of the Secretary of Defense. The Secretary shall allow an applicant at least 30 days to submit an application for a new operating agreement. After consideration of military requirements, priority shall be given to an applicant that is a United States citizen under section 50501 of this title. The Secretary may not approve an application without the consent of the Secretary of Defense. The Secretary shall enter into an operating agreement with the applicant or provide a written reason for denying the application.
(d) Limitation.— The Secretary may not award operating agreements under this chapter that require payments under section 53106 for a fiscal year for more than 60 vessels.
Source(Added Pub. L. 108–136, div. C, title XXXV, § 3531(a),Nov. 24, 2003, 117 Stat. 1808; amended Pub. L. 109–304, § 13(a)(2),Oct. 6, 2006, 120 Stat. 1700; Pub. L. 109–364, div. C, title XXXV, § 3502(b)(1),Oct. 17, 2006, 120 Stat. 2515; Pub. L. 112–239, div. C, title XXXV, § 3508(c),Jan. 2, 2013, 126 Stat. 2224.)
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The date of enactment of this paragraph, referred to in subsec. (b)(1), probably means the date of enactment of Pub. L. 112–239, which amended subsec. (b) generally and was approved Jan. 2, 2013.
2013—Subsec. (b). Pub. L. 112–239, § 3508(c)(1), amended subsec. (b) generally. Prior to amendment, subsec. (b) related to procedure for applications.
Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 112–239, § 3508(c)(2), amended subsec. (c) generally. Prior to amendment, subsec. (c) related to priority for awarding agreements.
2006—Subsec. (c)(1). Pub. L. 109–304, § 13(a)(2)(A)–(C), substituted "section 50501 of this title" for "section 2 of the Shipping Act, 1916 (46 App. U.S.C. 802)" in subpars. (A)(iii) and (C)(i) and (ii), "applying subparagraph" for "applying subparagraphs" in subpar. (B), and "section 50501" for "section 2" in subpar. (C) heading.
Subsec. (c)(3)(B). Pub. L. 109–304, § 13(a)(2)(D), substituted "agreements" for "agreement".
Subsec. (c)(4)(A). Pub. L. 109–364, § 3502(b)(1)(A)–(D), redesignated cls. (i) and (ii) as cl. (i), subcls. (I) and (II), respectively, in subcl. (II) substituted "; or" for period at end, and added cl. (ii).
Subsec. (c)(4)(B). Pub. L. 109–364, § 3502(b)(1)(E), inserted "with respect to which a binding contract is entered into under subparagraph (A)(i)" after "existing tank vessel".
Subsec. (c)(4)(C), (D). Pub. L. 109–364, § 3502(b)(1)(F), added subpars. (C) and (D).
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Demonstrations took place from coast to coast since the Zimmerman acquittal was announced last Saturday. Many Blacks have strongly reacted to the news, and expressed for many, a continued disappointment in the U.S. justice system that seemingly fails for Black people, especially when they are the victims.
"The justice system is unashamedly and unapologetically racist," believes Rev. Brian Herron, pastor of Zion Baptist Church. He spoke to the MSR before he gave a prayer to start Monday's rally before an estimated crowd of, according to organizers, between 3,000 and 4,000 people at the Hennepin County Government Center. "When I first heard the verdict, I was very angry. I was very upset and it affected me," notes Alyia Waddle, Minneapolis. Continue Reading →


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The Seattle-based company will run full-page ads in major newspapers Thursday, telling customers that guns are no longer welcome in its cafes.
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Customers in Eastern Carolina that we talked with in Greenville had a variety of reactions.
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Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, author of 'Kosher Sex,' has a combative conversation with Playboy's Miss November, Lindsey Vuolo.
In the interest of full disclosure I should tell you that I am not against pornography but rather in favor of the erotic attraction of modesty, and a lot of my books deal with that....On the other hand, I do write books on sexuality and everything else so I have an open mind about all this, but I do come from a specific perspective, so I hope that you will not be offended with any of the questions that I ask. If you feel that some of the questions are unfair or somewhat hostile, by all means you can say you don't want to answer them. I have no interest in portraying you badly in this interview and I will not do that, but I am coming from the perspective that I articulated. Okay?
Lindsey Vuolo: Okay.
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Innervate is a druid ability learned at level 54. It restores mana over ten seconds. It can be cast on the druid or other mana users. The spell has no effect when used on targets that do not use mana.
Modified by
- Glyph of Innervate
- Item Level 25
- Major Glyph
- Classes: Druid
- Requires level 25
- Use: Permanently teaches you this glyph.
When Innervate is cast on a target other than the caster, both the caster and target will benefit, but at 40% reduced effect.
- Sell Price: 1
- Innervate's buff is a Magic effect, so it can be dispelled; hence, you should be careful when using it during PvP.
- While out of date, see Resto Druid Raiding Guide: Innervate and You.
Tips and Tactics
- The mana regeneration Innervate gives you is significant, especially since the spell's cooldown timer is only 3 minutes. It is beneficial to any mana user. The short cooldown means that if you do not need it, you can cast it on another mana user in your group and have it ready again in a short amount of time. Saving Innervate for more than three minutes means you wasted a very large amount of potential mana.
- When playing as Guardian (tank spec) or Feral in a group, do not forget about this ability. You can use Innervate on party members between pulls to reduce time spent drinking.
- It is a great solo tool - it lowers downtime by replacing a drink, or it can give extra mana in a tough situation. It can also help you get ready to continue adventuring again after dying.
- In five man instances, it can be a good idea to save Innervate exclusively for the healer when he or she is about to run out of mana. When playing as the healer, do not hesitate to Innervate early and often to reduce downtime between pulls. Just make sure to save it when nearing a boss fight where you think you might need it.
- On battle resurrecting a healer or other caster, Innervate enables them to rejoin the fight faster.
Patch changes
- Patch 5.0.4 (28-August-2012): Updated.
- Patch 4.2.0 (2011-06-28): Innervate now grants an ally target 5% of his or her maximum mana over 10 seconds, but still grants 20% of the druid's maximum mana over 10 seconds when self-cast.
- / Patch 4.0.1 (12-Oct-2010): Mana regeneration changed to 20% of the casting druid's total mana.
- Patch 3.2.0 (04-Aug-2009): Duration reduced to 10 seconds, and cooldown reduced to 3 minutes. This means each use of Innervate will give half as much mana as before, but it will be available twice as often.
- Patch 3.1.2 (2009-05-19): This ability has been redesigned to grant 450% of the casting Druid's base mana pool to the target over 20 seconds. Previously based on spirit.
- Patch 3.1.0 (14-Apr-2009): This spell no longer costs mana.
- / Patch 2.0.1 (05-Dec-2006): Innervate moved to the Balance tree, making it castable while in Moonkin Form.
- Patch 1.11.0 (20-Jun-2006): Innervate: This spell is now a base ability for all Druids, trainable at level 40. Any Druid who formerly had the Innervate talent now has the Swiftmend talent instead. Previously the 31 point talent in the Restoration tree.
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May 6, 2016
We hear all the time about the presidential election, but what about the local candidates running for office here in the east?
Tuesday night the Pitt County 4-H hosted a meet and greet for candidates running for county, state, and national offices to speak with voters and answer questions. The problem is: besides those affiliated with candidates or 4-H members, only one voter showed up. Pitt County 4-H Member Alaina Suedbeck says people are missing out on a great opportunity.
"We want them to be aware we want them to be educated so they can vote, they know what they're voting for. And they don't trip up and choose somebody that they don't want," said Suedbeck
Flying solo was Carol Williams, who wouldn't go on camera, but said she was disappointed other Pitt County citizens didn't attend. She says she is registered as an independent for the upcoming election.
There is another candidate forum scheduled for next Wednesday October 17th at the Waller Auditorium on the Lenoir Community College campus. That forum will feature candidates from the at-large and District 3 races.
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