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Does 1 plus 2 equal 3? After last week's sometimes acrimonious discussion about formulas in ODF, you may be glad to hear that IBM and Microsoft appear to agree on that answer to this simple question. But OpenOffice.org is not so certain – maybe the answer is just 1 sometimes – and the question itself turns out not to be so simple after all. Let me explain.
The State of ODF Formula Interoperability Today
What is the current reality of ODF formula interoperability? Understanding the status of the ODF ecosystem will help clarify the set of issues and options that we faced when making the tough decisions we had to make about how to best support formulas in ODF spreadsheets.
For this example, I'll use the latest released versions of two well-known ODF implementations: IBM Lotus Symphony (version 1.2, download here) and OpenOffice.org (version 3.1, download here). I want to talk about current reality, so I'm not using any outdated versions of software (the OO build I'm using, for example, was released in the last week). I also stayed away from unreleased or private beta versions that might become available sometime in the future, and I used the default settings for each application.
First, I fired up Symphony 1.2, and followed these steps:
In Symphony 1.2, here's what I see:
After saving this spreadsheet as an ODS file, I open it in OpenOffice.org 3.1 and see this:
Clearly this is a problem. The exact same data, in the exact same spreadsheet, when operated on with the exact same formula, provides different results.
Some might be tempted to say that formatting a cell as text and then using it in a calculation is dumb. And I'd agree that there are few people who ever do such a thing intentionally. But in a large complex spreadsheet, with thousands of cells involved in complex calculations, it's easy to make mistakes like this. In fact, if you've spent any amount of time at all creating complex spreadsheets, I'll bet that on more than one occasion you've wasted a bunch of time trying to debug a problem that turned out to be caused by such mistakes; I know I sure have.
Similar issues arise with boolean values – what does it mean to "sum" a column of cells that includes both numeric values and boolean values? Not all spreadsheet implementations agree on the answer to that question, either. This can create interactions between formatting and calculating – change the format of some cells, and the totals change in your spreadsheet. Most users find such behavior very confusing, to say the least.
One of the most interesting things I found in my testing of these two implementations was that although they write different markup for formulas, the exact same interoperability problem occurs regardless of which application is used to create the spreadsheet.
If you create the spreadsheet in Symphony 1.2, as I did, the table:table-cell element has a table:formula attribute with a value of "=[.A1]+[.A2]". And this formula will yield a result of 3 in Symphony and 1 in OpenOffice.org, as described above.
If instead you create the same spreadsheet in OpenOffice.org 3.1, when you open it in Symphony 1.2 you'll see of:=A1+A2 in cell A3. But after you manually correct the formula, this spreadsheet, too, will yield a result of 3 in Symphony and 1 in OpenOffice.org.
So these two ODF implementations do not have predictable formula interoperability, regardless of where you start. And these are not obscure implementations – they are the latest released versions of the implementations from IBM and Sun, the two companies that together chair the ODF TC. Even if both companies released fixes tomorrow, there will still be many copies of the current non-interoperable versions of these applications in use for a long time to come. This is the state of formula interoperability among ODF spreadsheets today.
Fixing the Problem
This difference in behavior is a well-known issue among those who work with spreadsheet formulas. As Rob Weir said three years ago "Automatic string conversions considered dangerous. They are the GOTO statements of spreadsheets." (One of the ODF TC members even has that line in his email auto-signature.)
How to manage string conversions is far from the only problem with spreadsheet interoperability across vendors (and even across versions of the same product in some cases). The current draft OpenFormula specification contains 254 notes (by my count) about other issues similar to this one.
The OpenFormula sub-committee of the ODF TC has worked hard to address this. Here is an excerpt from the draft OpenFormula specification (emphasis added):
6.2.4 Conversion to Number
If the expected type is Number, then if value is of type:
Number, return it.
Logical, return 0 if FALSE, 1 if TRUE.
Text: The specific conversion is implementation-defined; an application may return 0, an error value, or the results of its attempt to convert the text value to a number (and fall back to 0 or error if it fails to do so). Applications may apply VALUE() or some other function to do this conversion, should they choose to do so. Conversion depends on the actual locale the application runs in, especially if group or decimal separators are involved. Note that portable spreadsheet files cannot depend on any particular conversion, and shall avoid implicit conversions from text to number.
If the expected type is Number, then if value is of type:
After OpenFormula is approved and published, this approach, with its explicitly defined concept of "portable spreadsheet files," will allow more predictable and consistent interoperability for ODF spreadsheet users.
But in the current environment, with no standardization of formula markup across major ODF implementations, users who want to avoid interoperability problems need to stick to a very conservative strategy. As Burton Group analyst Guy Creese said last week:
"… this in-between time (between the OpenOffice.org de facto standard and the wait for the officially approved 1.2 standard) means there isn't one way to handle this problem. The vendors would like you to believe that there is (their way), but in reality there isn't. Ultimately, this will resolve itself over time. ODF 1.2 will be approved, and there will finally be an approved standard that everyone--IBM, Microsoft, Sun (Sun/Oracle)--can follow.
Until then, if an enterprise does want to use ODF, the best strategy is to stick with one productivity suite as a way to avoid these interoperability problems. That way, even if formula support is idiosyncratic, it at least will be consistent within the enterprise."
"… this in-between time (between the OpenOffice.org de facto standard and the wait for the officially approved 1.2 standard) means there isn't one way to handle this problem. The vendors would like you to believe that there is (their way), but in reality there isn't. Ultimately, this will resolve itself over time. ODF 1.2 will be approved, and there will finally be an approved standard that everyone--IBM, Microsoft, Sun (Sun/Oracle)--can follow.
Until then, if an enterprise does want to use ODF, the best strategy is to stick with one productivity suite as a way to avoid these interoperability problems. That way, even if formula support is idiosyncratic, it at least will be consistent within the enterprise."
How Excel 2007 SP2 Handles ODF Formulas
The question of how to handle formulas in SP2's ODF implementation was one of the tough decisions we faced in our ODF implementation. We had made conformance to the ODF 1.1 specification a top priority, and yet the spec doesn't specify a formula language.
It seemed clear to us that we couldn't simply omit the namespace, as the current version of Symphony does. That would be in violation of Section 8.1.3 of the ODF specification, where it says "Every formula should begin with a namespace prefix specifying the syntax and semantics used within the formula."
What about using the same of: namespace that OpenOffice.org 3.1 uses? We saw a couple of pretty serious problems with that approach as well:
What about using the oooc: namespace that OpenOffice.org 3.1 writes when you choose its ODF 1.1 compatibilty mode? That syntax is on its way out for everyone, and we saw no point creating yet another new implementation of something that is clearly going to be deprecated soon. And it doesn't solve the problem: OpenOffice.org 3.1 writes the oooc: namespace prefix in its ODF 1.0/1.1 compatibility mode, and those spreadsheets still can yield different results in OpenOffice.org and Symphony.
After a robust internal debate on the topic, it became clear what we needed to do to apply the first two of our five prioritized guiding principles for Office's ODF implementation:
As we discussed in several DII workshops starting back in July of 2008 (with multiple ODF implementers and multiple ODF TC members in attendance), these guiding principles are in priority order. When we could not achieve them all, we choose the top ones first.
To adhere to the ODF 1.1 standard, we begin formulas with "a namespace prefix specifying the syntax and semantics used within the formula." Excel 2007 SP2 uses an msoxl prefix and write the formula attribute like this:
That fulfills our goal of adhering to the standard since ISO/IEC 29500 defines both the syntax and semantics of this namespace. Then, to provide a predictable user experience across all spreadsheets, we elected to support this namespace, and only this namespace.
If I move my spreadsheet from one application to another, and then discover I can't recalculate it any longer, that is certainly disappointing. But the behavior is predictable: nothing recalculates, and no erroneous results are created.
But what if I move my spreadsheet and everything looks fine at first, and I can recalculate my totals, but only much later do I discover that the results are completely different than the results I got in the first application?
That will most definitely not be a predictable experience. And in actual fact, the unpredictable consequences of that sort of variation in spreadsheet behavior can be very consequential for some users. Our customers expect and require accurate, predictable results, and so do we. That's why we put so much time, money and effort into working through these difficult issues.
What Does Excel 2007 SP2 Do With the Example Above?
The answer is that we agree with IBM: 1 + 2 = 3.
Excel does the same thing Symphony 1.2 does, converting the text "2" to a numeric 2 and using that value in the calculation, so that the total is 3. Excel does this because this type of automatic conversion – which has been a popular Excel feature for a very long time – is allowed by the semantics of the formula markup language Excel uses.
The formula markup that Excel uses is based on the formula language defined in ECMA-376 and ISO/IEC 29500, and here's what it says about type conversion in Section 220.127.116.11 (Types and Values) of Part 1 of IS29500:
An implementation is permitted to provide an implicit conversion from string-constant to number. However, the rules by which such conversions take place are implementation-defined. [Example: An implementation might choose to accept "123"+10 by converting the string "123" to the number 123. Such conversions might be locale-specific in that a string-constant such as "10,56" might be converted to 10.56 in some locales, but not in others, depending on the radix point character. end example]
An implementation is permitted to provide an implicit conversion from string-constant to number. However, the rules by which such conversions take place are implementation-defined. [Example: An implementation might choose to accept "123"+10 by converting the string "123" to the number 123. Such conversions might be locale-specific in that a string-constant such as "10,56" might be converted to 10.56 in some locales, but not in others, depending on the radix point character. end example]
Excel's approach to formulas in ODF, as well as our approach to other difficult issues, is completely public and fully documented in the implementer notes for SP2. As the note for this issue explains:
The standard defines the attribute table:formula, contained within the element <able:table-cell>, contained within the parent element <office:spreadsheet table:table-row>
This attribute is supported in core Excel 2007. This attribute is supported in core Excel 1. When saving the Table:Formula attribute, Excel precedes its formula syntax with the "msoxl" namespace. 2. When loading the attribute Table:formula, Excel first looks at the namespace. If the namespace is "msoxl", Excel will load the value of Table:formula as a formula in Excel. 3. When loading the Table:formula attribute, if the namespace is missing or unknown, the Table:formula attribute is not loaded, and the value "Office:value" is used instead. If the result of the formula is an error, the element <text:p> will be loaded and mapped to an Error data type in Excel. Error types not supported by Excel are mapped to #VALUE!
The standard defines the attribute table:formula, contained within the element <able:table-cell>, contained within the parent element <office:spreadsheet table:table-row>
This attribute is supported in core Excel 2007. This attribute is supported in core Excel 1. When saving the Table:Formula attribute, Excel precedes its formula syntax with the "msoxl" namespace. 2. When loading the attribute Table:formula, Excel first looks at the namespace. If the namespace is "msoxl", Excel will load the value of Table:formula as a formula in Excel. 3. When loading the Table:formula attribute, if the namespace is missing or unknown, the Table:formula attribute is not loaded, and the value "Office:value" is used instead. If the result of the formula is an error, the element <text:p> will be loaded and mapped to an Error data type in Excel. Error types not supported by Excel are mapped to #VALUE!
The Question of Syntax
I'd like to also address the issue of cell reference syntax in the ODF 1.1 specification, since that was also a topic of much discussion on several blogs last week. I'll start with some quick background for those who don't wallow in standards documents for a living.
The English language is inherently an ambiguous thing, and great literature sometimes uses the ambiguity to good effect. Words can have more than one meaning, and verb phrases might be intended to go with one noun or with another, as in famously ambiguous job references like "You will be very fortunate to get this person to work for you."
Writers of technical standards like to use rules and procedures that are designed to avoid this sort of problem. These rules, which place requirements on the use of words like should, shall, must and may, tend to result in a stilted writing style which gets tedious fast, but reduces the need to agree on what is "obvious" or "implied" when interpreting the meaning of the text later.
A standards document is said to contain both normative language and informative language. The things you must do to comply with a standard are supposed to be in the normative part, and things like examples and introductions are informative. So that everyone can be sure about which parts are which, the normative parts use specific phrases like "shall" and "shall not" to clearly label the things the standard actually requires you to do.
So the debate about Excel 2007 SP2's cell reference syntax comes down to whether the few sentences in the ODF 1.1 spec which cover this were meant to be informative or normative. The section of ODF 1.1 in question does not use the words shall or must. It introduces the topic with the phrases "typically" and "can include". In our reading of it, this language makes that part of the specification informative, stating no requirements for implementers.
The ODF 1.1 spec is casual about applying the rules of normative language, and as a result ODF 1.1 has more than its share of ambiguity. The ODF 1.2 draft, however, is already much improved in this regard, mainly through the great work of ODF editor Patrick Durusau. The OpenForumla draft specification is extremely careful in its use of normative language, and that will help implementers a great deal when they sit down to write their software.
When Will Office Support OpenFormula?
This question has come up on some blogs, so I'd like to address it here as well.
The real question is "when will Office support ODF 1.2," since OpenFormula is simply a part of the ODF 1.2 specification. And the answer is that we don't know yet, because nobody knows yet when ODF 1.2 will be published as an OASIS or ISO standard. As I said in the previous post, "we will look closely at Open Formula when it becomes a standard and make a decision then about how to best proceed." (It looks like IBM has committed to supporting ODF 1.2 and OpenFormula in late 2010.)
In the meantime, if you want to use Excel 2007 SP2 to edit documents that contain formulas from OpenOffice.org or Symphony, and preserve those formulas through editing sessions, and you understand the risk that the results might not be the same, you have a couple of free options.
The Open XML / ODF Translator Add-Ins for Office can be used with Office 2007 SP2, and as covered on the translator team blog, supports a variety of formula namespaces.
The Sun ODF Plugin provides yet another option, and apparently works with SP2.
Here's my take on this as representative of an organization of end users. We need interoperability that does not depend on proprietary formats. This is non-negotiable. ODF is the choice. Do ODF spreadsheets present challenges of the sort you describe? Definitely, and we are eager for the ODF industry to sort this out. As far as we are concerned, Excel 2007 SP2 implements ODF as a proprietary, non-interoperable variant, ie. not ODF-standard in any practical sense. Sure, it would undoubtedly be a lot harder for MS to build in the kind of ODF interoperability that we require and, yes, MS has grounds to complain about the incomplete standard for ODF spreadsheets. When you think about it, it's a rather similar situation to the nightmare that MS imposed on the world with its proprietary pre-OOXML formats for so long, at least from an end user's perspective. Doug, why doesn't MS sell us the product we need rather than making things worse for end users? We need cross-platform interoperability and we can't limit it to one vendor's office suite. With the MS solution, something has to go - there's just no choice. So Excel 2007 SP2 disqualifies itself, even though we'd dearly like for it not to. As end users, we don't care about your implementation problems. You could be working with the ODF industry to expedite an acceptable solution for us, but instead you're making things worse. Get it through your heads - MS-specific ODF completely defeats the purpose of going with ODF and we are definitely going with ODF. Stop waggling your finger at others and become part of the solution instead of the problems.
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It is not MS specific ODF. It is actually an ISO standardized spreadsheet language and one that is extremly easy to implement for most spreadsheet applications. Gnumeric and KOffice already can support the MS spreadsheet language in ODF.
An application like OOo already contains all the libraries for parsing and interpreting the OOXML spreadsheet language and I bet a Sun hacker already build support for the MS Office spreadsheet language in ODF in about the same time that it took Rob Weir to write about it.
Yes, Microsoft decides to be incompatible with all previously done work and the world will play catch-up.
That's very fair and very honest.
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Are you guys going to fix this problem quickly? Or shall we assume the ODF spreadsheets can't be exchanged with MS Office 2007?
Your credibility is at stake.
I second ghomem question, when do you plan to fix this?
Thanks for your "cooperation"
An excelent take on this issue ( in my POV ) here:
This is from Jeremy Allison, a man who knows something ;-) about *real* interoperability ( Samba team )
If the odf-converter plugin which is supported by Microsoft can get it right and be interoperable, why on earth can't Excel? You already have code that does it right - why go out of your way to break compatibility?
This is probably a stupid question, but what are Microsoft's plans for when other vendors implement msoxl? It is rather likely that at least one other vendor will try to implement the msoxl namespace of functions given the incentive to be compatible with Office 2007 SP2. Leaving it up to other vendors to implement msoxl, even if there were a specification (and even further assuming that such a specification was complete enough and clear enough to not be ambiguous), seems rather risky if Microsoft is truly interested in predictable, long-term compatibility/results. The msoxl namespace seems to have been created, after all, seemingly because of the very exact problem of inconsistent results between multiple vendors over a namespace (oooc) and no specification to clarify what is the correct, predictable behavior. Or, do you acknowledge that msoxl is nothing more than an ugly hack to an extant problem and you hope that it dies as soon as possible?
Maybe we are looking at this wrong. Whether you like or hate Microsoft, MS Office is far more popular than OOo or any of the other variants put together. Microsoft, for whatever reason, has not managed to create a system which allows users (remember us - the guys who actually buy your software) to load, edit and save files from other people using OOo etc.
Surely then the solution is for OOo and its variants to produce a system that allows saving files in MS Office formats?
I suspect that would throw the problems Microsoft has had right back onto all you critics and you would then be the ones with egg on your faces!
You state "Our customers expect and require accurate, predictable results, and so do we."
But no, you do not.
The point you bring up has nothing to do with interoperability problems between OpenOffice and Symphony. It is a general problem that occurs when mixing strings and values, and the very same problem occurs in Microsoft Excel as already pointed out by various people.
Please repeat the following simple experiment (I did it using MS Excel 2000 on Windows XP).
1) Go to the configuration screen of Windows XP, Open "Regional and Language Options", tab "Regional Options", button "Customize". Enter "." as Decimal symbol and "," as digit grouping symbol. Click "Apply".
2) Load Excel and open a new sheet. Format A1 as text, then enter 1.000 in the cell. Enter 2 in cell A2, and enter =A1+A2 in cell A3. A3 will now show the answer 3, as expected. Save your sheet and close Excel.
3) Go again to "Regional Options" and set "," as Decimal symbol and "." as digit grouping symbol (switching the two). Click "Apply".
4) Load Excel and open the sheet again. A3 will still show the value 3. Now enter a different value in A2, for example 0, and leave the cell. Then, enter again the value 2 in the cell (as it was after loading). This will update the formula in A3. As result A3 will show the answer 1002 instead of the previous answer 3.
Your issue has nothing to do with ODF itself. It is about parsing strings and values. So please don't blame ODF for it.
The issue can possibly be solved by parsing value+string as value.toString()+string (resulting in "1.0002"), instead of value+string.toValue() (resulting in ambiguous results). For example Javascript does this. At least such a solution will make users aware when they accidentally format values as text.
Looks like it may not be getting an answer.
Also looks like the odf-converter team didn't have such problems:
When the discussion was about OOXML Microsoft and all their friends cared about "preserving the corpus of existing documents".
But now you say the critics should shut up, change all their implementations and ignore the existing documents, just because Microsoft did not bother to implement things properly (as they already had on odf-converter). Cool.
Guys, I've looked through the latest batch of comments but don't see any new information or new questions. From the sheer amount of repetition in recent comments, it's clear that everyone has made their point.
Ghomen, the post above answers your questions. I must say, it's amusing to hear person who has left 12 critical and repetitive comments on this post alone, every one of which I've allowed, make the claim that I'm asking critics to shut up.


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There are plenty of people in the media who seem to think that the latest revelations in the never-ending Benghazi scandal are really crucial, finally pinning the Obama administration down for sending out bogus talking points.
The so-called "smoking gun" email does no such thing (FAIR Blog, 5/1/14). But leave it to Fox host Bill O'Reilly to completely exaggerate and misrepresent the story. Here's how he kicked off his April 30 show:
Well, now we know now there is no question that the White House misrepresented the terror attack on September 11, 2012, in Benghazi, Libya.
How does the email in question show that? It doesn't. But O'Reilly seems to think otherwise. He plays a clip of national security adviser Susan Rice saying, right after the attacks, that they appeared to have been a protest responding to a notorious anti-Muslim video.
In O'Reilly's mind, the newly released email shows otherwise:
The watchdog group Judicial Watch released the damning truth…. A memo written by senior White House adviser Ben Rhodes dated September 14 says that Ms. Rice was prepped to "underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video and not a broader failure of policy." Again, that despite CIA people in Libya and, perhaps, Defense Secretary Panetta telling the president and the White House the video had little to do with the murders.
But as has been pretty well documented, there was plenty of first-hand information linking the Benghazi attack to protests over the video (FAIR Blog, 10/17/12). The memo reiterated that view, and Rice repeated as much on television. In context, the reference in the Rhodes memo to "these protests" clearly is not limited to Libya, but includes ongoing violent protests in places like Egypt and Yemen, where no one has questioned that hostilities were sparked by the video.
O'Reilly scorched the media for missing the supposedly damning new revelations–singling out USA Today for getting it right (which, as Jim Naureckas shows, it did not). "Only USA Today was honest and responsible, putting the Benghazi e-mail story on the front page," he said.
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Queensland is being sacrificed to Australia's and the world's unwillingness to take global warming seriously.
Like the floods, the fearful intensity of Tropical Cyclone Yasi is probably due to the effects of global warming. Yasi has been intensified by the unusually warm sea-surface temperatures of the Western Pacific, warmth that provides the energy and moisture that made Yasi so terrifying, with the combined effects of tempestuous winds, torrential rains and a storm surge.
Last night Professor Ross Garnaut, currently revising and updating his 2008 climate change review for the Gillard government and the multiparty climate change committee, delivered a speech in Melbourne in which he stated that since his 2008 review, the scientific evidence for global warming had become stronger.
Cyclonic events are likely to become "more intense in a hotter world", he said, and since we are just at the beginning of the warming process "you ain't seen nothing yet."
To say so is not insensitive, is it not irresponsible, nor is it political. It is simply a statement of the bleeding obvious, at a time when we should be most attuned to it.
The Bureau of Meteorology have said that we have to go back to 1918 to find a cyclone as big as Yasi in Queensland. We would also have to go back to the early 1900s to match a December sea-surface temperature of 1.2°C above the long-term average in the seas beneath Yasi.
It is those seas, warmed by the enhanced greenhouse effect, that drove Yasi, just as they supplied the moisture for the rains that, on top of La Niña, swamped the state over the Christmas-New Year period.
Dr Kevin Trenberth of the US the National Centre for Atmospheric Research explains what is happening globally:
"[T]here is a systematic influence on all of these weather events now-a-days because of the fact that there is this extra water vapor lurking around in the atmosphere than there used to be say 30 years ago. It's about a 4% extra amount, it invigorates the storms, it provides plenty of moisture for these storms and it's unfortunate that the public is not associating these with the fact that this is one manifestation of climate change. And the prospects are that these kinds of things will only get bigger and worse in the future."
Climate Progress quotes "uber meteorologist" Jeff Masters on the equal hottest year on record, at the end of the hottest decade on record:
"I suspect that crazy weather years like 2010 will become the norm a decade from now, as the climate continues to adjust to the steady build-up of heat-trapping gases we are pumping into the air. Forty years from now, the crazy weather of 2010 will seem pretty tame."
Despite the strong science connecting global warming to extreme events in this country — the Queensland and Victorian floods, cyclone Yasi, the Victorian fires and the long drought — Australians don't really want to know.
It's not just that those who make the link with climate change are shouted down as insensitive or exaggerating — although there is plenty of that sort of outright denial around — but that ordinary Australians would rather focus on the awfulness of the tragedy and the adequacy of the emergency response than talk about the causes.
Garnaut told journalists yesterday:
"All the measurable impacts are tracking right at the top of the range of possibilities … or in some cases above them … there is no major area, unfortunately, where sceptical views of the science can draw any strength from the peer-reviewed science, the real science, that has been done in the past five years — all of the evidence appears to be in the other direction."
There is, as always, an alternative view, spouted by commentators who don't let the fact that they don't know what they're talking about get in the way of their theories:
Piers Akerman today on the link between extreme weather and climate change:
Those who choose to live and work in tropical Australia, be it Queensland, WA or the Northern Territory, well know what comes with the turf.
Cyclones, floods, crocodiles, poisonous snakes, lethal jellyfish. This is the sort of wild stuff that sends shivers up tourists' spines and sells books for Bill Bryson.
It is not new however. None of the creepy-crawlies or the smashed homes can be attributed to climate change.
How much damage does the state of Queensland, or the nation as a whole, have to sustain before we take climate change seriously?
*Clive Hamilton is professor of public ethics at Charles Sturt University. He is based in Canberra.
1JamesHPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:37 pm | Permalink
Incoherent outrage and multiple Godwins to follow in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…
2David SandersonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:40 pm | Permalink
No doubt Clive will be howled down in a similar manner to the attacks on Bob Brown but that's okay - both are pointing to a very uncomfortable truth.
We are living now with the effects of climate change and it is time we, weakly and self-indulgently, stopped ignoring the realities that are bearing down on us. Our economy and society needs to embark on large scale reform in an effort to beat the threat. Only then will we be able to stand on the world stage and get other countries to embark on their own transformations.
3Liz45Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink
Indded! And who takes any notice of Piers Ackerman? I find him repugnant to human decency, on many levels. I don't read his articles, I don't watch him on TV. He's so predictably vile, that he's not worth watching? Nor is his mate, Andrew??
The climate change denyers will be the loudest to scream when we reach that point too far. That's if we haven't arrived there already! If just one person would ask Piers A and Andrew B, where they achieved their scientific qualifications - it would be great! They just quote the international denyers, many of whom also worked for tobacco companies, who denied that smoking was injurious to health! We all know how contemptible those people were then - they're the same or worse now!
4FitzPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:52 pm | Permalink
@ David Sanderson
Are you even dafter than Hamilton? "Only then will we be able to stand on the world stage and get other countries to embark on their own transformations." Who are you kidding. It didn't need the Copenhagen fiasco to demonstrate that the pipsqueak voices and inevitably tiny physical actions from a country of 22 million people are not going to count when the rulers of billions of people, especially in developing countries, seek to maximise their countries welfare.
From today's AFR letters "US President Obama's 2011 State of the Union message indicated that neither an ETS nor a carbon price were on the US's climate agenda but that nuclear power was; and that the latest projections by the World Energy Organisation show China's emissions of greenhouse gases as being twice current levels by 2030."
Get real.
Also, and this applies especially to Hamilton's latest effusion…
From a meteorologist friend:
"Overall the tropical ocean surface temperature during January 2011 was slightly cooler than average (Source: US Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)."
While we know there has been a lot of warming of the earth's atmosphere, and, probably, ocean during the last 250 years and that CO2 is almost certainly contributing something extra with or without feedback from water vapour effects and cloud albedo, and we can also believe that warmer oceans may add energy to the tropical storms that, nonetheless are not unprecedented in their force since CO2 began to rise significantly, it doesn't follow that we should be so naive as to take the self-interested statements of Munich Re and other reinsurers as gospel - let alone the scientists who beaver away in small corners of the vast complex whole.
5Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
Probably need a few more than one to make a claim like this… yeah yeah yeah i know, floods, cyclone Larry. But I'm willing to take it all back if there's yet another category 5 of the same intensity that hits Queensland in a few years… better 2 or 3 more because then you have a trend and some substantiated facts rather than predictions. No matter how reliable the source, they're still preditions and don't replace solid facts. Once cyclones of this size become a seasonal norm you can more confidently make a statement like this. Until then you're preaching to the choir.
Yes, personally, I know that something should be done now and we take steps that appropriately insure the future of our nation's resources like an individual might insure their home, income or life. But to anyone other than the converted this will look like unsubstantiated hyperbole. Which is a real shame because this sort of article makes it difficult to have a rational discussion about climate change simply because of the "incoherent outrage" it provokes.
Contrasted with the Garnaut article in the same edition of Crikey, this is the stuff of tabloids.
6David DowellPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:01 pm | Permalink
Clive the problem is that the debate is ar*e about. It is the people who claim global warming - climate change can't happen, because of anything humans do, who have to prove it. They are the ones who want to change the chemical composition of the atmosphere rather than produce energy in ways that don't. Want I want to know is what are their parameters for change? Do they have any upper limit on PPM of carbon dioxide? I have never heard about one of them saying we can go to say 500 or 1000 or maybe 10000 PPM or what ever. It is always prove that it will be harmful right now. Not just that but exactly how harmful. Of course, the thing is we don't have a spare Earth in a lab we can run tests on. We just have this one and we need it to keep operating correctly. We didn't design it. we don't have an owners manual, we don't know what will happen as we keep altering the atmosphere. So sceptics, rather than this constant sniping, explain exactly why it will be OK and include up to what PPM.
7CHRISTOPHER DUNNEPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink
Fritz, are serious? This:
"Overall the tropical ocean surface temperature during January 2011 was slightly cooler than average (Source: US Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)."
…is like someone in FNQ walking out into the calm moments of the eye of the cyclone and declaring that it's all over!
January was cooler? Have you seen the amount of 'noise' in the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) data series since 1950? I suggest you do, and notice the steadily rising graph and the choppy movements within it.
Ocean temperatures are rising, as are atmospheric ones. Carbon dioxide is rising quicker than the planet's seen in historical times. The physics is elementary. There are global changes in every biosphere on the planet.
But you quibble about January? Are you serious, or just seriously deluded?
8Roger CliftonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:23 pm | Permalink
Marvellous graph! It is hard evidence of warming - to my eye, since 1950. Please supply a URL that we can quote in future tussles with disbelievers.
I wouldn't mind knowing the lag time between each emission and its expression in the SST - and thus a wilder climate. Evidence of the lag is needed to counter the arguments of those who think we dont have to worry about emissions until the consequences become intolerable.
9NIGEL BURGESSPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
Perhaps Queensland should become its own best friend and stop exporting enormous amounts of carbon (coal) to the emerging economies to be released into the atmosphere……?
10Jonathan MaddoxPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:26 pm | Permalink
"Overall the tropical ocean surface temperature during January 2011 was slightly cooler than average (Source: US Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)."
Not in the tropical western pacific, it wasn't.
11MeskiPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
Like the floods, the fearful intensity of Tropical Cyclone Yasi is probably due to the effects of global warming.
Probably? A feel-good word. How about something like 'is' or 'is not'?
At least the US have bitten the bullet and committed to nuclear. Australia will just carp and whinge about not wanting nuclear, but not wanting coal/gas/oil either.
12David SandersonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:27 pm | Permalink
Summary of Fitz:
1. It's not worth trying to do anything
2. Anyway, nothing much is happening. It's only a bunch of dumb scientists - what would they know?
Sad, but all too common.
13DavidPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:41 pm | Permalink
And who takes any notice of Piers Ackerman? I find him repugnant to human decency, on many levels. I don't read his articles, I don't watch him on TV. He's so predictably vile, that he's not worth watching? Nor is his mate, Andrew??
LIZ45…thankyou Liz couldn't have said it better.
14ObservationPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
The Bureau of Meteorology have said that we have to go back to 1918 to find a cyclone as big as Yasi in Queensland. We would also have to go back to the early 1900s to match a December sea-surface temperature of 1.2°C above the long-term average in the seas
Wow, what were we doing back then????
15Jonathan MaddoxPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
… yeah yeah yeah i know, floods, cyclone Larry. But I'm willing to take it all back if there's yet another category 5 of the same intensity that hits Queensland in a few years… better 2 or 3 more because then you have a trend and some substantiated facts rather than predictions. No matter how reliable the source, they're still predictions and don't replace solid facts. Once cyclones of this size become a seasonal norm you can more confidently make a statement like this.
Simon, this paragraph seems to misunderstand the difference between events and probabilities.
Every extreme weather event is a "solid fact", but nothing can ever turn extreme weather into a "seasonal norm" unless you've specified what you mean by a season, or a norm.
Weather in the tropical Pacific has cycles broader than seasons. The relevant cycle here is the ENSO. Some summers it's strong El Niño (like 1999-2000) and some strong La Niña (like 2010-2011). Most years it's far milder. The cycles are not timed nicely and regularly like years.
You would not expect much in the way of cyclones in North Queensland except in a La Niña year. If it's really strong, you'd expect strong cyclones. I say this not because of any recent weather statistics but because the mechanism whereby a cyclone develops has long been well-understood : still, humid air above a warm, still ocean. It stands to reason (absent any clear explanation as to why it shouldn't be so) that the warmer and more humid it gets, the more likely you are to get a cyclone and the bigger it's likely to be. If we weren't getting them under current conditions, climatologists would then have some explaining to do.
Meski, "is" or "is not" would imply the existence of solid evidence. You can't prove causality any better than "it's what you would expect under the circumstances". Which is a statement of probability, hence "probably".
16LorryPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 2:58 pm | Permalink
"Clive Hamilton is professor of public ethics " - say no more - an arts degree hahahahaha
17Mark DuffettPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
How much damage does the state of Queensland, or the nation as a whole, have to sustain before we take climate change seriously?
…we have to go back to 1918…We would also have to go back to the early 1900s…
There's your answer, right there. Simon above is right on the money. It's all too easy for skeptics to point at previous extreme events, no matter how long ago and say 'so was global warming responsible for that as well?', no matter what the trends are indicating. The infuriating reality is that it's going to take unprecedented events, or at least unprecedented clusters of extreme events, to regenerate political momentum on climate change.
These may not be that far away, though. The slight globally averaged ocean cooling referred to by Fitz is a well-known association of La Niña events, but this remains merely a short-term superposition on the increasing trend. I'm tipping that the next El Niño, likely as it is to coincide with the next solar maximum circa 2012-13, will see new heights of temperature extremes scaled. (Not more extreme cyclones though, as these are more prevalent for Australia during La Niña.)
18Mark DuffettPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink
Don't you love it when someone goes and exemplifies your point while you're in the act of writing it? Thank you, Observation.
19michael r jamesPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 4:34 pm | Permalink
Aaggghh, I am an angry at myself again. I have just wasted time on trying to track down specific source for that Fritz crap. Yet again I have to promise myself to never bother when explicit links to such claims are not given (and I do not mean deniers sites like Andrew Blot). You can phone a friend to try to get that link, Fritz but you've lost everyone here. Incidentally when one Googles the precise phrase it is Crikey (and Fritz's own post) that comes up in the top 5 or so places! Thus is how low quality trash like that propagates. (Not, as others have pointe out, even if that statement was made by NOAA, it wins any points.)
FITZ Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 1:52 pm |
From a meteorologist friend:
"Overall the tropical ocean surface temperature during January 2011 was slightly cooler than average (Source: US Department of Commerce, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)."
20JohnfromplanetearthPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 4:36 pm | Permalink
Here we go again with Clive Hamilton's commitment to destroying economies and restrict freedom. Narrow, unenlightened self interest does not interest me Mr Hamilton.
21nicolinoPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink
Might I add that Gina Rinehart is planning two new massive coal mines for Queensland. Can hardly wait.
22Liz45Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 5:55 pm | Permalink
JOHN From Planet Earth - What good will a flourishing economy be, when every day is roasting or freezing or whatever, there's no jobs; we lose our whole agricultural abilities due to high temperatures etc and can no longer produce our own food? What do you plan to do about that? It'll be much worse than now - loss of cattle, sheep, sugar and bananas - a 'stroll in the park' by comparison? Where do you plan to live? On Mars?
What scientific qualifications do you have? You're a Professor in what? BS?
@NICOLINO - Indeed! And I heard this morning, that Gina is now a multi-billionaire - on par with Belusconi of Italy? How's that? She made almost a billion last year alone! Who cares about what coal is doing to the planet?
23DavidPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:15 pm | Permalink
What scientific qualifications do you have? You're a Professor in what? BS?
LIZ you are running hot today
24Norman HanscombePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:29 pm | Permalink
Climate change, both man-made and not man-made, has interested me since the 40s, but I'd suggest that anyone who reads the emotive responses and (more importantly) non-responses above to the unfortunately complex issues involved in the 'debate', might begin to realise that it won't be easy even to convince enough observers that something needs to be done, let alone convince them about what precisely that 'something' needs to be.
Would it be better if this confusion didn't exist? Of course, but it does exist, and I doubt anyone can proffer a sound reason for believing the above sort of 'debate' can do anything positive.
25David SandersonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink
Norman defines 'pompous old fart' to perfection.
26Norman HanscombePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:43 pm | Permalink
Projection on your part, D.S., or were some of the words just too big for you? If only you'd had my primary school teachers.
27David SandersonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:46 pm | Permalink
"My primary school teachers were better than you primary school teachers."
How wonderfully primary school!
28Norman HanscombePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:53 pm | Permalink
Congrats on a cute retort, D.S., and it's well ahead of your usual contribution.
29David SandersonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:55 pm | Permalink
Thanks Norman, I'll always be here for you.
30Liz45Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 6:56 pm | Permalink
@DAVID - thank you! I'm running out of patience. I just want them? to get on with it! Soon! I do not have any scientific knowledge or education. I just trust that 1500? learned people plus, do!
31Noble WaspPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 7:35 pm | Permalink
The only conclusion that I can draw from this thread is that LIZ45 and David should get a hotel room.
32erikaRPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 7:38 pm | Permalink
Northeastern Australia is on high alert, as a tropical cyclone is approaching the coast, and due to make landfall. The storm, Cyclone Yasi, will hit the state of Queensland soon. Queensland, the northeast corner of Australia, has already had the most detrimental flooding in a century in the past month alone, and now must deal with a Category Four cyclone. Yasi is approximately identical in dimensions and power as Katrina, which battered the Gulf Coastline of the United States in 2005.
33RohanPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 8:09 pm | Permalink
David Sanderson,
pompous or otherwise, at least Norman has the courage to break the unpalatable truth that no matter how impressive we've become at defining the problems, we're still no closer to finding the solution(s).
34Gratton WilsonPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 9:35 pm | Permalink
Does Bill Heffernan still advocate that we concentrate our agricultural production up the top end so that we needn't worry about droughts?
35ARPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 9:44 pm | Permalink
Let's imagine that climate change is NOT anthropogenic. Can we agree that there have been major shifts in weather in both hemispheres? Big freezes in wet but usally mild Ireland, after an astonishing Summer without a drop of rain April-June, hay won twice before Autumn. At the same time Moscow was over 30C, occasionally nearly 40C, etc etc.
the question is,dowe continue to build ticky tacky boxes on flood plains and do the major cities of the northern hemisphere (London tried flood barriers in the 80s when AGW was barely a theory) have to wonder if being river ports has a future.
And Bangla Desh ought to sue India for Himalayan deforestation.
Anyone recall the razing of the Amazon forests in the 70s? It's no longer news coz there's so little left - the flow is so depleted that its delta is drought stricken. Early euroid mariners noted, 4 centuries ago, that its output was so great that the SEA was fresh water a hundred miles from the shore.
36bereasonablePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 10:21 pm | Permalink
"but that ordinary Australians would rather focus on the awfulness of the tragedy and the adequacy of the emergency response than talk about the causes"
This - I so agree.
Can't believe we're still debating the base cause of the bipolar weather we're experiencing in Oz - its a no-brainer in my mind.
37bereasonablePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 10:27 pm | Permalink
Answer to what was going on back in the early 1900's… a World War. Loads of blowing shit up!!!
38Liz45Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 10:54 pm | Permalink
@NOBLE WASP - Do grow up! WASP? How apt! NOBLE? I don't think so!
Not long ago, I had a little family of wasps? near one of my outside lights. We had an agreement; I didn't bother them, and they left me alone! They just went - eventually! You might learn something from that?
39Norman HanscombePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:02 pm | Permalink
For once LIZ 45, something IS to be learnt from what you've said; but don't worry, no one will tell on you.
40ARPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:11 pm | Permalink
Liz45 - we have both communal paper wasps & solitary clay builders, within inches of each other. They don't hassle us, even entering the kitchen in search of water lately and don't attack each other.
Would that Crikey commenters were half so civilised.
41bereasonablePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
Liz45 & AR:
I also had wasps in the eaves by our lounge-room window - did the obligatory google for 'how to exterminate paper wasps' then decided they had as much right to a space as I did. As of last week, mine too have moved on. Amazing how by letting things be, they tend to disappear…
42Norman HanscombePosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:32 pm | Permalink
AR, read something fairly simple, Say "King Solomon's Ring", and you might understand inter/intra species conflict a little better.
43Liz45Posted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:36 pm | Permalink
@AR@BEREASONABLE - I must admit to being a bit scared of them in the beginning, but they didn't appear to be bothered by having a human around, so I just didn't worry about them. I just took care when I washed my door or windows, and we managed to live together just fine.
AR-I know what you mean about some commenters? I've just chosen to ignore the really pesky ones, as they only want to be noticed, don't they? Reminds me of a dear little nephew who used to throw himself down on the ground in the middle of a busy street - if he didn't get his own way! Little possum used to embarrass his mum. I'd tell her to walk away, while I kept an eye on him - he was only about 2-3 yrs at the time? At least he had an excuse! A toddler isn't always very worldly is he?Not conversant with the social niceities of life! When he realised that nobody was very interested, he'd 'turn off' get up and run to his mother! Little devil!
You'll be pleased to learn, that at 46, he doesn't feel the need to do it these days! Unlike some who are older than he is?
44ARPosted Friday, 4 February 2011 at 11:45 pm | Permalink
Pathetic that Handscum (imagines that he) is an authority on all things. Arrogance combined with ignorance is never pretty as he demonstrates, tapping away in his foetid phantasy.
45Liz45Posted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink
@AR - Indeed! Funny how you knew who I was referring to? I just treat him with ignore! Not worth the effort!
46FitzPosted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 1:04 am | Permalink
@ David Sanderson
"Summary of Fitz:
1. It's not worth trying to do anything
2. Anyway, nothing much is happening. It's only a bunch of dumb scientists - what would they know?"
That proves one thing I suppose. That it is not worth responding to Sanderson if one hopes that he might actually read and understand what is written and possibly therefore learn something. even about how to read and think clearly.
@ Jonathon Maddox and Christopher Dunne
Jonathon Maddox, what a surprise to find relevance on a Crikey blog, actually responds relevantly to my quoting someone of some authority who points to a good source for saying that January average tropical sea surface temperature is below average. At least saying that it is not true of the Western Pacific does sound intelligently relevant (but I'll come back to it).
Christopher Dunne, by contrast, doesn't notice that the fact of the tropical water from which a cyclones water content arose being cooler does create a problem for warmists because the physical connection between CO2 emissions and additional, or is it additionally vigorous? cyclonic activity, is that more heat means more energy and therefore greater power in the cyclone. So, if there is less heat, therefore less energy in the water from which a cyclone arose how does that sit with the supposition that there is a causal link to an unusually vigorous cyclone? I think you are confusing yourself with a woolly-minded conflation of what my correspondent was implying with the argument of those who think that any temporary trend is a contradiction to a theory which proposes some longer term contrary trend.
But, Jonathon Maddox, your point, even if true, isn't conclusive of any effect on current Queensland problems of oceanic warming because it would appear to be the local effect that you refer to which is possibly responsible for the current vigour of cyclonic activity and not the general level. Maybe you would say there is a higher base from which local effects can take their starting point but that obviously is a proposition needing testing and may not sit comfortably with the fact that Queensland has experienced comparably great weather events to the recent ones extending back 100 years and more.
@ Michael R. James
As you can see I merely quoted someone I regard as a reputable authority rather than quote or cite a documentary source myself and I am glad that someone tried to follow it up if, with reason given than I didn't even name my source, you wanted to verify it. Clearly you haven't either verified it or found a reliable contradiction of it - or a way of distinguishng it like Jonathon Maddox - so it says something only about you and your prejudices that you call it crap. I would be delighted to learn that you had some competence in the field of climate science and could give some reliable information on the subject. Evidently you can't.
I have cited on another blog a link given by the same meteorologist which is
From there a graph is extractable I gather, though I haven't been able to replicate it myself - but have seen the graph - which shows a trend line for tropical ocean sea surface temperature from 1948 to date which indicates a rise of 0.4 degrees in the 62 or 63 years except that the actual end of 2010 temperature is 0.2 degrees below where the trend would take it. For devoted warmists it does create a slight problem as heat energy is the key to vigorous cyclonic activity. As far as I know no one is claiming that Cyclone Jasi built up a head of steam six months ago when the water at its place of origin was exceptionally warm!
47Moira SmithPosted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 5:51 am | Permalink
@Liz 45 - you wrote: 'who takes any notice of Piers Ackerman? I find him repugnant to human decency, on many levels. I don't read his articles, I don't watch him on TV. He's so predictably vile, that he's not worth watching? Nor is his mate, Andrew??'
I totally agree with you, but alas lots of people take notice of Piers and Andrew, that's why they get huge ratings and earn huge salaries. (And why ABC's 'Insiders' feels obliged to have one or other of them on each Sunday morning, to add 'balance'.) This is the truly worrying thing. We *can't* just dismiss them as repugnant etc (tho they are) …
48Norman HanscombePosted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 7:26 am | Permalink
I'm fully aware, AR/LIZ45, that my posts haven't displayed any special competence. It's just that alongside your sad struggles to understand what's happening in the world, even mediocrity can appear reasonably adequate. It's possibly selfish of me to be so grateful that I don't have your psychological needs to project shortcomings onto others, but I'm sure objective observers would understand. I'd have continued longer trying to help you if it hadn't seemed such a hopelessly impossible goal.
My hopes to get you thinking a tad more effectively were (in light of your incredibly strong and deeply ingrained defence mechanisms) probably doomed from the beginning; but I believe those same fair observers would agree that I've been trying — - possibly even extremely trying?
Via con dios, little munchkins, as you appear to need his/her help more desperately than any of the slow learners I've succeeded in helping in the past.
P.S. I trust you didn't mind me finishing off above on such a positive note?
P.P.S. Why not take a leaf out of Moira's book. She shares your prejudices, but does at least give a hint of understanding that simply abusing those whose views differ, may not be the only possible path, when she implies it may not be enough simply to dismiss opponents instead of trying (presumably whatever your personal limitations may be?) to actually understand WHAT they're saying and, more importantly, actually develop a coherent refutation of what they've actually said. Unless such effort is another bridge far to far for you to tackle?
49David SandersonPosted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 7:30 am | Permalink
Pompous ass, and a deluded egoistic fool to boot.
50Norman HanscombePosted Saturday, 5 February 2011 at 7:51 am | Permalink
D.A., perhaps an apt confession on your part, but instead of berating yourself, why not risk the pain of trying to improve your analytical skills? Who knows, you may not merely come up with sounder, less emotive ideas, but even be able to express them better — - not to mention detect tongue in cheek commentaries?
Good luck.