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Only a short two-block walk up from the beach, this vacation home offers a great ocean view. The two bedrooms are on the lower level, with a full bath located between them (Jack and Jill style). Walk upstairs to the sunny open floor plan with living, dining, and kitchen areas, you will find a queen sofa sleeper and sliding glass doors to the balcony, where you can dine al fresco while enjoying the ocean and hillside views. You'll find a large flat panel TV in the living room, as well as a TV in each of the bedrooms. The stacked washer/dryer and 3/4 bath are also on the upper level. A total of 1014 sq. feet.
This vacation home rents on a nightly basis (2 night minimum, holidays and selected dates excepted; 3 night minimum mid-June through Labor Day). Rates subject to change and may vary by week. Rates do not include one-time cleaning and linen fee, 12% City of Avalon occupancy tax, and processing fees.
Additional amenities include: laundry: in unit, tennis: na, golf cart: no golf cart, deck/balcony/patio: 1 private balcony, TV's in property: 3, smoking: not allowed, extra bedding 2: trundles 2, extra bedding: sofa sleeper queen, bedroom 2: twins 2, bedroom 1: cal king.TripAdvisor property ID 2239032 ...Read more
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Catalina was a great experience, from the ferry to the island, I highly recommend the extra fee for the Commodores Lounge, to the whole island experience. Very relaxing, a lot of great restaurants and cute shops. Be prepared to walk everywhere and know that the beaches of Catalina are very small and manmade. It is also worth reserving your spot at the Descanso Beach Club. Chairside food & beverage service, music and shade when needed. It eliminates having to haul blankets, towels and chairs to the beach, plus hauling them back.
Our unit location was good, not too far up the hill but enough to walk off the all the food and drink during the week. Was surprised with no air-conditioning but with perfect weather it was not a problem, especially with the fabulous ocean view from the living room and master bedroom. The unit had pluses but know that it is a little dated and needs a refresh of flooring/carpet in the bedrooms. All in all, a great time.
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"Mixed reviews"
We love Catalina and go for a week every summer. This was our first stay at 211 Whittley. Great location close to the beach and overall it was a comfortable and clean home that we would probably rent again.
But...our beach umbrella was stolen off the front porch, we had to call 911 due to a violent domestic fight next door (could see from the bedroom window) and the downstairs bathroom flooded twice. Expensive rental prices also!!
Civr called out a plumber after 2 days (due to the 4th of July), so we had to mop up water with tons of towels, then wash them, etc... We were down to 1 bathroom with many quests. Big hassle.
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Recommended for: Romantic
"Splendid View"
This place worked out great for us. Trek up the hill kept us in shape. It was in a perfect location, close to everything. Lots of closet space & storage. Our only complaint is that the fridge was a mess inside but we reported this and it would not keep us from using this home again. Next time would bring a few dish towels and dish rag for kitchen cleaning. The view was wonderful, we noticed most places didn't have the view we had, that was a priority for us.
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Recommended for: Rugged, Romantic
"At Home on the Island"
I spent two weeks at this property and loved it! The unit is spacious and the deck was great! My friends and I enjoyed sitting on that deck and watching the ocean, woodpeckers and even deer in the neighbors yard! We used the BBQ out there also.
The unit is a little bit uphill but worth the hike. Furniture was comfy (all beds good except we didn't use the sofa bed...so I don't know about it). I will stay here again.
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"Pleasant stay on Catalina."
We enjoyed our stay at 211 Whittley very much. The hill was a bit of a challenge when we were tired, but other than that no real complaints. We stayed for a week, so the washer and dryer were a real plus.
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"Very comfortable"
After moving from our 1st unit, which was totally unacceptable in many ways, Denny reassigned us to Whittley. The unit was clean, modern, with many amenities and so convenient to the main town activiteis & concerts. Denny was awesome & took a personal interest in our comfort & satisfaction. Unfortunately, we did not find his office staff to be anywhere near as courteous or pleasant, especially alma.
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"A weekend of adventure"
As it was the weekend of the Catalina Marathon we had 6 total people staying over and guests for our wonderful feast after the run . I was impressed that we didn't run out of towels, paper products, cleaning supplies and blankets. The place was spotless and there were plenty of dishes and silverware to go around.
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"Even had a view"
We enjoyed out short stay. The condo was lovely, clean, and well equipped. My husband had his morning coffee and cereal on the deck looking at the water.
The condo was a short walk up at fairly steep hill.
My only short coming was a back pain in the morning from sleeping in a strange bed.
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"a great place to get away from it all and just relax."
The place was in a perfect location for us. just two blocks up from the beach. we had a great view off of our deck and enjoyed wine and snacks in the early evening before walking into town for dinner. our place was clean, quite, and perfect for our needs.
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A friend from the valley
"Annual Summer Vacation with Family"
Very clean & comfortable. Only complaint would be the lack of proper kitchenware--pots and pans were limited, no kettle etc. We had to do a lot of improvising. We always rent condos because we like to have a kitchen and use the kitchen. So it is disappointing when the pots & pans and kitchen ware is so limited.
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Response from the manager, Catalina Island Vacation Rentals - 07/30/2010
Hi "Annual Summer Vacation"
Thanks for taking the time to complete our survey. We are glad to hear you enjoyed the condo. We did discuss with the owner the lack of adequate kitchen ware and they recently purchased new pots and pans for the condo.
Thanks Again
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"Awesome rental"
Clean, comfortable, spacious, has everything you need. (would've been perfect if a golf cart came with the property!)
The only downside is the walk uphill to get to the location.. But a little exercise is always good!
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The Francisco Family
"Could Have Been Perfect!"
My family of five stayed here for a week in July. 2009. The condo was clean
and had plenty of room for our family. One bedroom had a king size bed
and the other had two twin beds with two twin trundles. It was in an
excellent location, close to beaches, shopping, and dining. The upstairs
deck had a gorgeous ocean view as well. It is located on a hill and is a
pretty steep climb when carrying luggage and groceries. However, we
enjoyed the exercise and got used to it after a while.We rented this condo
thinking a golf cart was included and were told when we made the
reservation there would not be one. We were a bit disappointed since the
add had said a golf cart was included. Hopefully, the management will
change the add. Also, there weren't any beach towels in the condo. We
ended up having to buy our own. There are also no beach chairs, no cooler,
and only a bucket to play in the sand with. We didn't bring any of these
items with us and wished we had. The dishes in the condo looked dirty even
after I washed them in the dishwasher. I'm not sure if it's the water on
Catalina that gives all the dishes a cloudy appearance or the dishwasher
itself. Overall, we had a great time and would stay here again.
Frank Traficante/Joanne Dallas
"Catalina Christmas"
The living space is very pleasant. There is enough room to avoid any crowding. The living-dining room has a view (somewhat obstructed) of the ocean and the hills. The small patio right off the living room is very convenient and most usuable for a quick coffee or a meal. The bathrooms are modern and very clean. The condo is a short walk to town. A washer, dryer, and dishwasher are a plus. We enjoyed the split level with the bedrooms and one bath downstairs. We have looked over at this property for many years since we have stayed right across the street on previous visits. It does not look too interesting from the outside, but is most attractive and comfortable on the inside.
The management was very quick to adjust a couple of minor problems and made every effort to make our stay enjoyable.
Cyndy G.
"Good for families"
Our extended family, (family of four, grandma,uncle) really enjoyed
this home. It was comfortable and fun. Even though the description
says it's a 1 1/2 blocks to the beach, it's a pretty steep climb---but
we liked that-it felt like we had a little work out so that we could all
eat whatever we wanted!
The only other problem is that the bedrooms are downstairs so
footsteps can be heard from above in the living room....however it was
not that difficult to walk softly enough for people to sleep.
The views and breezes were heavenly....
"Church Mouse Fishermen"
The place was great, we loved the kitchen, the patio, the view - the barbecue worked great!! We had a fabulous time. The only problem was the pull out couch upstairs. It was so uncomfortable my husband and I preferred to sleep on the floor. For the price I think a decent pull out mattress is not to much to ask.
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Would you recommend this vacation rental to a friend? Yes
Recommended for: Friends, Tourists, Families w teenagers, Families w children, Romantic, Singles
211 whittley
"Rekaxing Home"
Nice house to stay at. Very comfortable. Loved having a washer and dryer. Kids room had 2 beds with 2 trundles to sleep 4. Very roomy with a nice view.
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Would you recommend this vacation rental to a friend? Yes
Recommended for: Friends, Groups, Tourists, Families w teenagers, Rugged, Families w children
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We all know that RL is an a*s. He says stupid things just to get attention. Shamefully, many journalists like you are secondary feeders. He says shi*t, he gets attention, then you try to pitch in and rub off some of that attention. Shame on you too. As an Independent, I don't like many of the president's policies, but how would you judge someone who wishes nothing but ill on someone else--here its on our president?
Obama's problem is that truth is an absolute defense. And it very clear that author Obama is nothing of the sort:
Only the libs would care about this "insult" to Obama. When the libs made statements to the effect that Bush "stole the 2000 election" and is "a war criminal", the left never complain. Calling a President a war criminal is actual malice!
A case Obama may have, bringing it now is probably going to be considered petty and cost him political capital. Since a lot of people believe in RL, it might be objectively desirable to prove him wrong but his believers will not be persuaded by such a pronouncement coming from the "liberal" courts. Limbaugh took a huge risk in (presumably) not heeding his lawyers but it might work out for them. Obama should sue Limbaugh after the next election, however, and argue tolling of limitations.
Defamation and libel are torts, so Obama would also need to prove damages. In the case of the New York Times and Sullivan, it was significant money damage award. In the case of other authors, it would be loss in credibility and future earnings, most likely in the form of lost book deals and sales. If I had to defend Limbaugh (which I'd rather not do, though everyone is entitled to a defense), I'd argue that even if you can prove malice, Limbaugh's audience most likely wouldn't buy a book like "Audacity of Hope" or any future books Obama might write ... and his likely audience wouldn't be affected by Limbaugh's comments anyways ... move to dismiss.
That said, Limbaugh's a complete idiot.
You do not have to prove damages to recover on a claim of libel, at least in most jurisdictions (i.e., libel is presumed a "per se" injury).
Is plagarism defamation per se?
Maybe times have changed, but in my law school days, the articles were completely re-written during the editing and spading process by the editors. It will be tough, without old drafts of the article, for Obama to prove that his article was not substantially revised in the editing process, thus is Limbaugh's statement inaccurate???
Gee, do ya think Blimpaugh felt actual malice toward the president? Naw! He was just blowing off steam. It was a dorm prank, like Abu Ghraib. Limbaugh is such a fat, foul pig, whose bloated regurgitations do nothing for the benefit of this country.
Since Rush is basically a clown at this point that no one in their right mind would take seriously anything he says, he probably had a parody defense to any defamation claim.
You said 'colorable' about Barack Obama -- isn't that a bit racialist?
You said "colorable" about Mr. President Obama. Isn't that a bit racialist?
If his ignorance of common knowledge, e.g., "corpse man", "Austrian language", and dodgy savoir faire, e.g., bowing to kings and emperors, is any measure of his education, one wonders if he hasn't been covered. He's published nothing but a narcissistic book, yet the Univ of Chicago labels him a "professor." Makes one wonder what has has actually done for himself in his career. Certainly, his first year as president has been characterized by amateurism, thuggery, narcissism, arrogance, and not a little buffoonery. Of course, when you run an old man and a ditz against a media created image, the stupidity of the public makes the outcome certain. Regrettably, the rest of us have to live the the mess. Take an inexperienced, low-level political operative out of the slime bowl of Chicago politics, with associates like Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, Jer. Wright, and Tony Rezgo (?), what's to expect? We gotta find a better way to select people to run this country.
Good post.
Verdict: Limbaugh
Basis: Truth.
It is a factually true statement that "there's not a professor around to turn his C into an A or to write the law review article for him he can't write". Its true that there is no professor around to do those things. If Rush said "There's no professor around to wipe his tush." That would be equally true. If the claim is that Rush is insinuating truth to the latter part of the sentence (re needing someone to write a law review article), I think that will fail. Maybe a poll would reveal otherwise, but it just doesn't sound to me like he is actually insinuating that.
Speculation about libel lawsuits is fun, and the attention almost always surrounds the issue of actual malice. But everyone seems to overlook the key issue: reputational injury. Even if Limbaugh's claim is false, and he made it with actual malice, how has the reputation of the President of the United States been harmed by an acusation made by a blowhard talk-show host? It hasn't. The claim fails.
Good points Mr. Colbert. Obama, the constitutional law professor who never wrote a single scholarly article. Obama's entire academic CV is a product of affirmative action. Indeed, Obama's winning of the presidency could well be viewed as affirmative action, i.e., the guy has never so much as run a lemonade stand, he's a freshman senator and former community organizer, but let's elect him president because it will give us our first black president.
I think Obama would have a colorable claim against Limbaugh. Limbaugh is defaming his academic work. As always Limbaugh shows ignorance of his topic. He speaks as if he has inside knowledge of being on law review. I realize he is related to attorneys but he is not one.
He is attempting to attack Obama on his strengths. Vintage Karl Rove tactic there. Obama is smart and accomplished, has won elections and made an international name for himself. His agenda has not failed and Limbaugh knows it. No president's agenda succeeds entirely. It is the job of the partisan hacks to hit the airwaves and cry failure.
I don't think Obama will sue Limbaugh. It would be an interesting case to follow if he did. Seems it would be easy to prove malice but then again folks like Limbaugh have attorneys drawing the line clearly so that the offensive language skates close and does not cross over.
Reading the above comments tells me why we are in so much trouble as a country. When we use comments like the ones that appear here abouth people make the nation look like fools. I see nothing constructive or meaning full in them
Thank you Associate 5271 for being the only commenter to assess the issue in a detailed lawyerly way.
I don't think a jury would ever find that a retarded drug addict has the mental capacity to reach the "actual malice" standard.
The statement was not that Obama did not write a particular law review article in the past - it was a general statement and was more hypothetical in nature. Like, Obama doesn't have the ability to write a good law review article.
Rumor has it, Obama didn't pen "The Audacity of Hope" or "Dreams From My Father."- Bill Ayres did.
Obama is no where without his teleprompter.
He attacks Limbaugh and Hannity, says the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
He blames everything on everyone besides himself and wants to destroy this country, hates Capitalism, hates America and is promoting class and racial warfare..
Limbaugh is the least of his worries.
We will be taking back this country in 2010 and 2012 and he and his Maoist/Marxist/Commie buddies will be out on their elitist a$$es.
Such a lawsuit by PrezBO against RL would be so much fun to observe. Litigation as a contact sport. The depositions would be so entertaining.
Isn't Obama libel proof? In other words, Obama has no good reputation to damage.
You're correct that Obama won't file suit. However, I cannot see where he does not have a colorable claim. Sullivan was not intended to forever bar a defamation action by a public official - it was designed to impose a higher bar to a claim in order to protect the importance of the public dialogue. I honestly cannot imagine a better example of how a slanderous comment exceeds the protections of Sullivan. There were so many ways Limbaugh could have couched his comment in order to avoid the issue but he did not. Unless he has a defense based in truth - or can show that he was not reckless in the allegation - I think he loses. If only we could find a way to have standing to bring the action in Obama's place.
There is no case here.
Rush preceded each statment with "I think" making the "claims" his personal opinion. Not a statement of truth or fact. We have the first Amendment to thank for the freedom of speech with few exceptions, aka fire crowded theater and so on, but the bigger question is does it matter? Our President has still not produced a birth certificate, but because he was sworn in... He is still our president, and Rush is an entertainer, much like psyhic's they get the luxury of spouting off and if and when it happens get to say... I told you so.
To Sacha Cohen and Ali G, "racialist" sounds like a George Bush malapropism. To M. Colbert and Dana White, you are great examples of why we should do away with democracy.
Denver Realist: when you join the 'real' world, re birtherism, let us know.
Ashby: this is not a very interesting question. The president is not going to sue Limbaugh, and Limbaugh is not going to stop spewing his civilization-destroying hatred until the market rejects him. Judging from your commenters, that's not likely to happen any time soon. The maturity level of his audience is suppressed by his continued injection of immaturity into their brains.
Really, Ashby, can't you come up with material more worthy of the venerable WSJ Law Blog? If not, readers may ask Murdoch to re-assign you to other matters. Your predecessor, Lattman, probably could use some help on the WSJ's Madagascar bond desk.
We will never know because all of "the Anointed One's" grades and records and birth certificate and every other thing this boy wonder has produced is under seal, probably until his resurrection and ascension into heaven.
Have any of you considered that this administration might try to get the same results of a lawsuit with out the PR mess, by using the Justice Dept. to bring about criminal libel charges. Rarely are charges brought, and whether civil or criminal, Obama, Holder et. al. have no case, but I wouldn't put it past them to try.
Not only did Rush precede his sentence with, "I think," he did not say that Obama did not write articles. What Rush said here could be interpreted as a statement suggesting that in Obama's younger years there was always a safety net--if he tried his damnedest but couldn't get that article written, there would be a professor in the wings to help him out. Rush's statement isn't necessarily saying such an event ever occurred, just that it might have, that conditions were ripe for it, that Obama had professors ready to to his work for him. It's a ridiculous and aggressive, but it's not slander. Saying that there's no safety net for the President of the United States is neither untrue nor original.
Harvard Law, on the other hand, has reason to be irked. Suggesting that professors pad student grades and write articles in place of students comes closer to the slander mark, including reputational injury. Ditto-heads will be substantially more likely to treat Harvard Law grads with less respect following this statement--that means fewer job opportunities, which means fewer alumni donations. Too attenuated? Probably.
Harvard has no case either: as Associate #5271 wrote, it is true that there are no professors to write articles for him.
CoolPillow writes: "Obama is no where without his teleprompter."
I guess you didn't see his justly-praised performance -- sans teleprompter -- in the lion's den, aka the House Republican conference retreat.
The veracity of the president's putative authorship of self-indulgent memoirs and issues about his writing skills both specifically (legal writing, articles, speeches, etc.) and in general surely pose many interesting questions. We fairly may ask, however, whether he has any standards whatsoever about academic integrity and legitimacy. The former President of the Harvard Law Review and erstwhile Constitutional Law professor gleefully excoriated the Supreme Court like a rude host during his State of the Union address. Still, he not only has trouble articulating what the law is (or was, until the Citizens United opinion) but also seems to lack a basic appreciation for the very notion that legal scholarship merits honesty and respect. Law students become lawyers, after all, and some even go into elective office thereafter. Two come to mind ...
See http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-school-but-says-it-was-not-malevolent.html?pagewanted=1 for some insightful background. Vice President Biden, Mr. Obama's chosen running mate, is said there to have '''used five pages from a published law review article without quotation or attribution'' and that he ought to be failed in the legal methods course for which he had submitted the 15-page paper. " Six out of 15 pages and no quotation or attribution made? That's beyond plagiarism: it is nothing short of wholesale intellectual theft. Flippant excuses, evasive answers and years later, Mr. Biden has emerged from his indiscretions well enough. Wouldn't it be nice to find out whether Mr. Limbaugh's assertion has any truth? Libel and defamation of a public figure, let alone a sitting president, is a high barrier to overcome. Truth, it seems, is a higher hurdle still.
If these Rush Limbaugh statements about Obama made it across the pond to a British newspaper, Obama would have a much easier time in the UK suing for defamation. Until there is a change in the law there, Obama's UK lawyers could even file a super injunction, to keep their lawsuit filing secret.
interesting that somebody who flunked out of Southern Missouri State U will cast academic aspersions on the pres of Harvard Law Review
I can't wait for 2012 cleanup undesirable clutter
Rush is a conservative commentator who is a thorn on the side of liberal politicians. He admits to his position as opposed to the vast majority of commentators on NBC, ABC, & CBS that pretend that they re impartial and attempt to hide their left wing bias. To quote a Democratic President "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen". So if the President. can't stand the heat quit, the country might be better off- wait it wouldn't Biden as president would be worse
Rush is a fat drug addicted right wing nut job
what rush said is nothing to things said about Pres. Bush
Interesting supposition, Barack v. Limbaugh on a libel suit? Surely you jest? As an acedemic exercise it could be entertaining, in reality, boring. From the article itself quoting Brad Berenson on proceedures followed at Harvard, there is no way that authorship can be ascertained or credited to a 2L student. Only possession of an original document, verified as original i.e. handwritten and subsequently peinted in the Harvard Law Review could come close to providing proof of original authorship.
I would also submit that lack of prior examples of scholarly writings from any colleges requiring a thesis for degree requirements would allow a reasonable defense to the libel charges where establishing any writing style or pattern simply doesn't exist. If I remember correctly, it is the plaintiff's duty to show proof of wrong doing, not the defendant's. In short, if there is no proof of authorship then how can one claim libel if they cannot produce evidence that they indeed wrote any or all articles in question? I base my claims on the "reasonable person" rule and claim no law experience in practice.
Every lawyer knows that by going in front of a judge and jury, it is a crap shoot if you are going to win or lose. RL has nothing to lose except some money, on the other hand Obama is not going to come out looking better if he wins and if he loses whatever credibility he has is gone.
It is not defamatory if it is tbelieved to be true.
If Obama thinks that Limbaugh doesn't think a lot of him I'd really be in trouble. I happen to believe Obama a communist who is set on destroying this country.
I sincerely hope that any President who believes they are being defamed by someone like a Rush Limbaugh sues and I hope they win. You folks who believe that Obama is a Communist or a Socialist or whatever or that he was foreign born must believe that your Republican and Independent representatives in Washington, D.C. are awfully dumb. :Presidential candidates once they reach the level in their campaign like Bush, Clinton, Obama and McCain did have been so thoroughly investigated and scrutinized that nothing is left covered. You people are the stupid ones who believe otherwise.
Under the "innocent construction" rule, don't courts look at the defamatory words in the most innocent light possible so that the right of free speech receives maximum protection? Here the allegedly defamatory words are "or to write the law review article for him he can't write." While those words could be inferred to be associated with the law review article the President has been given credit for (although as Berenson says, there are no "bylines"), Limbaugh could have been referring to any number of articles the President didn't want to touch. Say hypothetically, the President chose to pass on a law review article having to do with health care because it involved issues and maybe even a bit of number-crunching that was beyond his ken. So instead the President chose to contribute to an article dealing with, oh, how the 14th Amendment requires a college football playoff. Employing the innocent construction rule, a court could hold that the "law review article for him he can't write" referred to the health care article he abandoned in favor of the college football playoff article. And who is to say that through discovery we wouldn't find out that the President preferred one topic over another and had some choice in the matter?
Everything Rush utters is said with malice, so that portion of the claim is easily satisfied.
Only a hard-up ambulance chaser would suggest that POTUS demean himself by suing a critic. If anyone had reason it would have been the Clintons (probably Bush too) who were the subject of many vile unsubstantiated allegations. But a President is too dignified to engage in petty litigation.
Not to mention that bringing a lawsuit just increases publicity for ridiculous claims by 100-fold, and ironically increases credibility. (Contrast the treatment of Orly's birther lawsuits - which were ridiculed and quickly dismissed.) Also consider the danger of what a lawsuit might uncover, as Bill Clinton learned when he decided not to settle with Paula Jones.
So much foolish advice here - must be dumb political extremists or lawyers looking for work.
Everything- and I DO MEAN EVERYTHING Rush says is full of hatred and lies. Most people with brains know this and don't bother listening to him in the 1st place. If you really want the truth, it's going to the be the opposite of whatever Rush spews out of his nasty, lying hateful pie hole. He really is an idiot (drug addicted hypocrite as well).
Rush Limbaugh is a provacateur, that plays fast and loose with the truth...far from a true jounalist he is simply a the guy that got beat down as a kid for being a bozo and is now abusing what power he gets from the uneducated audience that he mesmerizes with half truths and lies. The man should be made to get in the boxung ring with Obama and defend himself (he certainly doesn't match up intellectually)....nah, you cvould never clean the drug saturated fat off the canvas...
Obama plagerizes everything he says and everything he does..Did anyone notice when he was debating during the campaign he would listen carefully to his opponent and then voice the exact same opinion ... It was like he had no real ideas and simply used his opponents....Obama is nothing but an actor...He is not what he appears to be....
Not only is Rushit a drug addicted money-hungry bum, he is a traitor to this country. I'm sure he is thrilling leaders of the Taliban and al-Qaida with his uneducated remarks.
Hey Jim, while your response is that "Rush is a fat drug addicted right wing nut job" you faill to heed the maxim "people in glass houses shouldn't cast stones." After all, Obama is nothing more than a skinny drug addicted left wing nut job. However, there is still a fundamental difference between the two. Rush does not set policy for America while Obama is destroying America with his policies.
Obama's law review article can be read here:
Your all caps post convinced me not only of the reasoning behind your position but your own "drug free" status
Why would anyone think Rush Limbaugh would do something that would cause the ass in the white house to sue him? Limbaugh is so much smarter than Obama it's pitiful, and very apparent to those of us who actually pay attention to what's going on. Rush has done nothing to malign our <> leader, and I use that term very loosely. Obama has advisors that he never listens to, apparently. He makes himself a laughing stock, not a talk radio show host. Obama is a narcissistic, vastly overrated politician who won because we have fools in this country who thought he was going to put a check in the mail for them. Well, that didn't happen now, did it? Oh, and nothing ELSE he's promised has happened either. Obama should go ahead and sue Limbaugh, he'll be the biggest laughingstock in the world...oh, he already is, how silly of me.
Assuming it was a false statement, it was oral, not written, and therefore slander, not libel. And because it didn't falsely assert commission of a crime or other similarly egregious offense, actual damages would have to be proven, which would probably be difficult. That being said, I believe that the more Limbaugh spouts off, the more ridiculous he and his followers appear.
anybody can sue anybody , get an ans, may take take a lifetime
I would love to see "Mr. Obama" take Mr Limbaugh to court... Because then maybe Mr. Limbaugh could get a few questions for the people answered... Maybe then we can hold accountable "Mr. Obama" on where he was really born and his actual birth place. Maybe we can get answers like, hmmmm... Mr. Limbaugh.. any suggestions?....
Nancy makes the best point on this entire board. By bringing a defamation action against Rush, then Obama opens the door to discovery on the President's reputation which would include his dealings with convicted racketeer Rezko, past drug use (i.e., how many times did you illegally purchase coke, acid and/or pot Mr. President?), etc.
Limbaugh is oxycodone idiot the more he spews out his hate and lies the more the people will begin to see what he really is. I am surprised that the President has put up with his BS this long. I believe in freedom of speech,but this type of garbage should be stopped, He will put his foot in his mouth once to often and it will catch up with him.
To concerned: Did the article say the president is thinking about suing Limbaugh? Next time try reading the article before jumping to ignorant conclusions.
To Nancy: If you really believe President Obama wasn't born in this country, then the filth people like Rush Limbaugh spew on a daily basis must be brain damaging to listeners.
If someone writes an article for another person, it is not plagiarism, but, arguably, deceit. If articles are printed without names, it is not plagiarism; the claim isn't even being made that a particular person wrote a particular article.
Why sue RL. He is a clown and has to survive against Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin and any other loudmouths who will make millions fooling people that they are just populists and not paid entertainers/mouthpieces. The President will have to stomach RL, it came with the job and free speech. Sooner or later responsible Republican leadership will appear out of this mess and Dems will really have to worry. In the meantime playgirl models, mentally ill cry babies like Beck and ignoramuses like Palin will continue to wreck the GOP, with the help of a few inadequate, lazy and machine Dem candidates that will and should cost the party.
It doesn't matter what your politics are, a lawsuit between Obama and Limbaugh would be fascinating!
Can you imagine the spectacle that would be? Limbaugh's radio show would morph into a defense ensemble of insults and rants and Obama could address the nation each night from the oval office regarding the "state of the lawsuit."
The President is a lying politician from Chicago; by definition, he has no reputation which can be injured.
I didn't read all the comments, but:
@ Denverrealist and the "I think" line of argumentation
Beginning an allegedly defamatory statement w/ the words "I think" or similar diction does not shield a defendant from liability. Milkovich v. Lorain Jounal, 497 U.S. 1 (1990)
Can we say "hyperbole?" Rush's comments were clearly not meant to be taken literally. Some folks need to take a chill pill.
What are his damages? The earliest he would lose his job is 1/20/2013 [if he does] and then he retires on a fat pension [U.S. SENATE AND PRESIDENT]. Ah, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. He then retires to Chicago where he becomes the next "Black" ex-President like Clinton. He's not suffering. He's made it to the top of the "greasy pole" to re-use a phrase by Benjamin Disraeli.
"Come in into my parlor said the spider to the fly." - I'm sure Rush would welcome the opportunity to conduct discovery. And, I would not be surprised to learn that Rush might be baiting, while holding a strong hole card. He's not as slipshod in his remarks as those who dislike them seem to think. Indeed, he relishes in playing the provocateur. But, those who mouth the memes against him have not an knowledge of his craftiness. In any event, why would any President stoop to bring such an action and so expose himself?
So if Obama is really an other-worldly wordsmith for the Harvard Law Review they would surely want to put all of the work he did front and center, right?
But there is nothing there. No articles, no endorsements, no grades. I realize that when you are dealing with Gods such details do not matter but to me the absence of any of that is telling -- and it should be to all thinking Americans, IMHO.
@Denver Realist - I'm not going to touch your birther nonsense.
But you're wrong about the "I think" argument. Putting a couple magic words before something which is clearly a statement of fact does not shield the speaker from liability. Now, if Limbaugh had said "I think that President Obama is doing a terrible job" that would be a statement of opinion, but not a statement of fact. But if he had said "It is my opinion that on the night of August 12th, 2009, President Barack H. Obama strangled a puppy to death with his bare hands," you've got a statement of fact, and the fact that it's couched in a few weasel words about it being an opinion changes absolutely nothing.
As usual, the "conservatives" in the crowd demonstrate that all their high minded talk of respect for the office and so forth were only words, and only meant to stem the bleeding of a President who took the country into disastrous territory, primarily vis torture.
Never mind that Obama is reneging on his own base with his continuation and extension of many of those same policies. If he really were the commie out to destroy the country, we'd be in a very different direction.
Of course what's actually going to destroy our country is the polity's inability to have a discussion that doesn't boil down to "YOUR leader is a DEMON FROM HELL."
"Of course what's actually going to destroy our country is the polity's inability to have a discussion that doesn't boil down to "YOUR leader is a DEMON FROM HELL."
Obama became President precisely by resorting to the campaign strategy that Bush -- although not even running -- was the "DEMON FROM HELL." Surely Obama must realize that's what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and Obama's critics/opponents now simply are pulling a page from Obama's own playbook
as any experienced libel defense lawyer knows, Rush doesn't need a "reasonable basis" to support his charge. As "reckless disregard" is defined by the Supreme Court, Rush must have either known that his statement was false, or uttered it "while entertaining serious doubts as to the truth" of the statement, or having "a high degree of awareness of its probable falsity." This is a subjective standard, judged by the speaker's state of mind. If Rush honestly believes his statement is true, he cannot be held liable.
King Bama, our first (and we may hope last) affirmative action Presidential hire, should make Rush's day and sue him for slander. The action would be defective and there would be no special or general damages recoverable in any event, but Rush would not move to dismiss It. Instead, he would move immediately into discovery which would open Harvard Law School's affirmative action activities in general and in particular. Rush's ratings would soar. A bonanza.
I think the context of the remark is that Rush THINKS Obama was given undeserved forbearance for (the lack of) academic achievement. So to try to parse this as something actionable is frivolous and silly. That said, I really hope the left tries to make an issue of it - it will do wonders for Limbaugh and add to the reputation of the admimistration as a bunch of thin-skinned humorless scolds, who can dish it out but sure can't take it.
Please, please don't throw me in that briar patch, Rush pleaded.
Flush thinks Obama "has been covered for all his life." Amazing during the eight years of the previous administration, Flush never questioned Bush's academic credentials. Undoubtedly the King Solomon of the GOP never had help from his Yale professors in staying withing the lines of his coloring books.
Would the President have a colorable claim? Do you think Harry Reid might say it depends on how he gives it voice..?
I hope none of you actually believe you can eliminate defamation simply by putting "I think" in front of a statement of fact... Yikes. Very bad advice, no matter how remote the possibility of being sued.
Obama wouldnt give the hypocritical attention whore Limbaugh the credence to sue him. Limbaugh is unable to defame anyone b/c no one respects what he says. But it is fun to analyze the situation.
Well, since there is no evidence that Barack Obama ever wrote a single word in any law review as a student or a professor, it would be hard for him to claim that he was defamed by the allegation that he plagiarized what he did not write. How would that go? "Had I written any Article, Note or Comment in any law review--and I am not claiming that I did or admitting that I did not--it would not have been plagiarized, and Limbaugh's suggestion that this nonexistent and/or unacknowledged, unsigned, unidentified published piece was plagiarized is clearly wrong and I have been defamed." Hmmm. Limbaugh's apparent belief that some published legal work by Obama actually exists was quite flattering.
People seem to forget that the Supreme Court has also held that a public figure must prove the falsity of an allegedly defamatory statement. Falsity in this case is not presumed. It would be extremely difficult for Obama to prove that what Rush said was false. I guess he would have to get all of his professors to swear out affidavits that they would never have given him C's. If I were Rush, I would counterclaim for malicious prosecution.
@Concerned: When you figure out how to turn off your caps lock and learn what commas and periods are for, try posting again. Also, it's spelled "suing."
First -- great blog! Here, there are so many issues. Did Limbaugh entertain serious doubt as to his comments' truth? It would seem not. Frankly, it seems startling that Obama does not come up anywhere on a database search of law reviews. Did he write anything? Seriously. I was Chief Articles Editor of UCLA Law Review, and I was named to that position because of the quality of my student Comment, whixch ultimately was cited in neartly a dozen federal opinions. Thus, Limbaugh may not have entertained serious doubt as to the truth of his comments. Under St. Amant, then, his statement would not be deemed reckless/ actual malice, and he would not be liable for defaming a public person. The Supreme Court itself recognized the danger inherent in its St. Amant opinion, giving added protection to those who are least careful. But so it goes. Furthermore, as with everything that Limbaugh does on air, there is an air of parody. Liberals do not find him humorous, just as conservatives do not find Jon Steward or Stephen Colbert funny. But, as no less a jurist than then-Justice Rehnquist found, even a base and offensive parody in Hustler, suggesting that the Rev Jerry Falwell had sex in an outhouse with his mother, is defamation-protected, in the tradition of Nast's cartoons debasing Boss Tweed. Limbaugh is always replete with hyperbole and parody ("half my brain tied behind my back" "excellence in broadcasting network"), etc. So any such defamation effort would be dismissed on a 12(b)(6). Ditto.
I am surprised that with all the scrutiny this received no one mentioned the first two words of Limbaugh's statement....."I think". It is hard to charge a man with libel when he is just asserting what he thinks. Your thoughts?
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text: Comments (95) + Add comment Comments (95) Featured « 1 2 » ATi_Elite + 1065d ago As soon as Half Life 3 comes out BAM End of Debate! but right now STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl STALKER Clear Sky STALKER Call of Pripyat is my favorite trilogy! #1 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(7) | Disagree(20) | Report | Reply UnHoly_One + 1065d ago I have to admit I never saw what was so special about Half Life. My vote would go for Mass Effect if they didn't completely botch the third one, but since they did... Probably Xenosaga or God of War. #1.1 Agree(9) | Disagree(17) | Report | Reply SuperLupe + 1065d ago Same here, played the Orange Box back in the day and didnt see what the heck all the hype was about. #1.1.1 Agree(4) | Disagree(5) | Report BlackTar187 + 1065d ago Half Life 1 for its time ws EPIC and amazing. I never felt that way to extremes in part 2. #1.1.2 Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report Kalowest + 1065d ago "didn't completely botch the third one, but since they did..." You mean if Bioware didn't botch the series after Mass Effect 1. I can't even remember what happened in ME3, but IK the game it looked pretty. #1.1.3 Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report Eyeco + 1065d ago You guys never saw anything special about the games physics, AI, story, level design, the ingenious physics based environmental puzzles, lengthy campaign, gravity gun. I'll understand not to like the game heck it's your opinion, but to say that you cant's see the appeal is kinda ignorant #1.1.4 Agree(5) | Disagree(3) | Report NukaCola + 1065d ago flOw, Flower, Journey checkmate #1.1.5 Agree(2) | Disagree(6) | Report MikeMyers + 1065d ago Wouldn't trilogies have to be games that ended after 3 games? #1.1.6 Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report UnHoly_One + 1064d ago @Eyeco, No, I didn't see anything special about any of that stuff. I thought it was one of the most bland, boring, and generic shooters I ever played. It was one of VERY few games I actually left unfinished because it was awful. #1.1.7 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report Ezz2013 + 1064d ago i give it to uncharted, god of war, mass effect #1.1.8 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report cayleee + 1065d ago Warcraft 1,2,3 enough said. #1.2 Agree(5) | Disagree(8) | Report | Reply BlackTar187 + 1065d ago Great games but Warcraft 3 let me down. #1.2.1 Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report Hitman0769 + 1064d ago I just really don't like it... it seems for kids... only Blizzard Universe I can't get into no matter how hard I try OH... PS-trick question. there is none, its all opinions. #1.2.2 (Edited 1064d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report solidt12 + 1065d ago This is a hard question to answer unless somebody just sat down and played through every trilogy. #1.3 Agree(3) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply showtimefolks + 1065d ago god of war for me personally #1.4 Agree(5) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply Reverent + 1065d ago No idea how you got so many disagrees. Personally, I absolutely loved the STALKER games. #1.5 Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply ATi_Elite + 1064d ago STALKER is wonderful and too bad Consolers missed out on that Wonderful experience as Consolers DO NOT have an Open World FPS/RPG. Also lot of them have said they find nothing special about Half Life 2. OMG HL2 only ushered in about 50 different gaming innovations from Facial Expressions to the gravity gun along with the Sandbox game style. I can't wait for Survarium (Open World FPS/RPG/MMO) from the Dev team that made STALKER Late 2013 or mid 2014 #1.5.1 Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report Reverent + 1064d ago I've actually been following Survarium very closely since it was announced. It's a bit of a shame that virtually nothing has really been mentioned of the game. #1.5.2 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report Eyeco + 1064d ago @ATi_EliteUnless you can call Borderlands open world we have that, and unless you can Fallout 3 an FPS we have that to, but yeah I agree I've always wanted to play STALKER, it looked scary as fuu #1.5.3 Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report otherZinc + 1065d ago Halo & Mass Effect. In that order. #1.6 Agree(1) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply MagneticDeath2 + 1065d ago God of War imo #2 Agree(20) | Disagree(12) | Report | Reply Etseix + 1065d ago a very good choice indeed but I'll stick with Xenosaga trilogy XENOSAGA!!!! #2.1 Agree(4) | Disagree(6) | Report | Reply PsnGammer21 + 1064d ago They need make an hd remake of xenosaga #2.1.1 Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report raWfodog + 1065d ago I agree with you on that. Kratos is my favorite videogame character. #2.2 Agree(5) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply Simon_Brezhnev + 1065d ago God of War and Prince of Persia. #2.3 Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply Kalowest + 1065d ago I find God of Incest to be overrated. Dumb story and main character. #2.4 Agree(2) | Disagree(8) | Report | Reply Rainstorm81 + 1065d ago God of incest???........do u know anything about Greek mythology? You are lucky that's all that gets referred to ( albeit BARELY ) from that time.....Watch Sparticus , it makes any of GoW sexual references seem mild **even though u are clearly trolling** #2.4.1 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report Reverent + 1065d ago @Rainstorm, accidentally gave you a disagree, sorry :/ But yeah, Kalowest is trolling too hard. #2.4.2 Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report SonyStyled + 1065d ago uncharted is pretty good #3 Agree(21) | Disagree(17) | Report | Reply Septic + 1065d ago Halo #4 Agree(18) | Disagree(18) | Report | Reply TheSauce + 1065d ago What is with this site? Say a PS series and you get tons of up votes, say a xbox series and you get down voted. I think many forget that these are people's OPINIONS! #4.1 Agree(14) | Disagree(5) | Report | Reply Septic + 1065d ago Don't take it to heart, it's just the way of N4G is. It doesn't mean your opinion is wrong. I understand your annoyance though. #4.1.1 Agree(8) | Disagree(2) | Report MagneticDeath2 + 1065d ago Not really there is alot of downvotes on the PS side as well. #4.1.2 Agree(8) | Disagree(3) | Report Rainstorm81 + 1065d ago Maybe he got down voted because Halo isn't a trilogy.....it's a saga...or will be Hence Halo 1-6....all direct sequels of each other #4.1.3 Agree(4) | Disagree(3) | Report InTheLab + 1065d ago Septic's posting of Halo proves you wrong. 15agrees/14disagrees. Perception and reality rarely line up when it comes to this site. #4.1.4 Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report Number-Nine + 1065d ago this generation..gears of war. #5 Agree(11) | Disagree(32) | Report | Reply DigitalSmoke + 1065d ago Hahaha!!! #5.1 Agree(13) | Disagree(9) | Report | Reply TheOneEyedHound + 1065d ago Nah I say Uncharted by far. Gears was great, but once Uncharted 2 came out, the Uncharted series was in another arena artistically, story-wise, ect. #5.2 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(15) | Disagree(14) | Report | Reply Septic + 1065d ago Agreed. Whilst Uncharted never really was a contender against Gears as far as multiplayer is concerned, as a whole, Uncharted trumps it as a more memorable series. #5.2.1 Agree(8) | Disagree(8) | Report Number-Nine + 1065d ago uncharted is definitely a solid trilogy but it lost some points, in my opinion, with how bad uncharted 3 was. it was nothing like 1 or 2. #5.2.2 Agree(4) | Disagree(13) | Report Root + 1065d ago Number-Nine It wasn't perfect but it was still amazing....not as a good as Uncharted 2 but how can you top the best when people will have very high expectations. @Below They do reference past games though Elena in Uncharted 3 to Drake "No Cursed treasure" (Drakes Fortune) "Nope" "No Diabolical Warlords" (Among Thieves) "Nooooo" Then when your in the airfield and Elena gives you a lift where Drake jumps on top of the car "Hey Déjà vu right" "haha Yeah" (Jumping on the train in Uncharted 2) #5.2.3 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(1) | Report Ducky + 1065d ago I don't really consider uncharted to be a trilogy because not much carries over from one to the other. The possibility of UC4 is pretty much open. Could probably swap UC3 around with UC2 and not much would change, especially with the way characters show up and disappear. While a series like GodOfWar carries over and the final entry is a culmination of previous events. #5.2.4 Agree(2) | Disagree(4) | Report OlgerO + 1065d ago HAHAHA!! #5.3 Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply TXIDarkAvenger + 1065d ago I love how you get disagrees for YOUR OWN OPINION. I bet everyone who disagreed has never played Gears of War because its awesome. #5.4 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(0) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply aLucidMind + 1064d ago Or because they simply didn't like the game for one reason or another. And disagreeing with another person's opinion is totally fine considering nobody is attacking him. #5.4.1 Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report shawncobbins + 1065d ago Finally somebody with brains, Gears is easily the best trilogy out right now. #5.5 Agree(1) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply TheOneEyedHound + 1065d ago 1. Metal Gear Solid 1-3 2. Fallout 1-3 3. Tie between Uncharted 1-3, Halo 1-3, God of war 1-3 #6 Agree(5) | Disagree(8) | Report | Reply Rainstorm81 + 1065d ago Um trilogies by definition is a series of three....THREE parts. Halo and MGS are past their 4th iterations with a rumored MGS5 and Halo 5 and 6 in production. #6.1 Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply BanBrother + 1065d ago Yeah you could still consider Halo 1-3 as a trilogy though, as 3 wrapped it up nicely (the flood). The new trilogy is venturing off somewhere else. I get what you mean, but for arguments sake let's just allow it. #6.1.1 Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report Rainstorm81 + 1065d ago Like I used to think Star Wars the best trilogy.....until episodes 123 were made Then it became the LoTR trilogy......but now they are making the hobbit movies. All these stories TE in so its difficult to look at it as a "Trilogy", can't just choose three and say hey that's my trilogy, I'll just disregard the other entries. Can't ignore what exists #6.1.2 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report CanadianTurtle + 1065d ago Gears of War Resistance (for me personally) Uncharted The best duo-logy is probably the infamous series. #7 Agree(14) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply josephayal + 1065d ago Final Fantasy 13 #8 Agree(2) | Disagree(14) | Report | Reply SuperLupe + 1065d ago LOL come on man you did that on purpose :p #8.1 Agree(3) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply edonus 1065d ago | Spam Dark_Overlord + 1065d ago Trilogy hmm... For me Personally it would have to be the XCOM trilogy (Enemy Unknown, Terror From The Deep and Apocalypse) :) #10 Agree(2) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply BlackTar187 + 1065d ago man loved loved loved Xcom and terror. But all other Xcom games were awful imo except new one. I still play Xcom 1 &2 on PC once a year they are most likely 2 of my top 5 games of all time. #10.1 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply Dark_Overlord + 1064d ago I agree with the rest being pretty awful (Except Apocalypse) however they weren't strategy games, I remember 1 being a space shooter type thing and another a TPS, and as such I don't count them with the first 3. Apocalypse wasn't bad, it was just different, some parts were good and some were bad, but I'm guessing it was pretty hard to follow on from the greatness of the first 2 :) #10.1.1 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report Rask + 1065d ago Halo is by far the best. #11 Agree(10) | Disagree(17) | Report | Reply shawncobbins + 1065d ago Sorry man I love Xbox but Halo 4 was aweful! You fought the same enemies every level and when finally getting to the end,instead off a boss battle it was cinema. I will not be buying the next one. #11.1 Agree(1) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply edonus 1062d ago | Spam Fyflin + 1065d ago In terms of story then I'd say the Mass Effect trilogy. The characters, worlds and technology are all fantastically realised, regardless of how it eventually ended. For pure single player gameplay this gen I'd say the Uncharted trilogy, and for co op my vote goes to Halo 1-3. Amazingly fun playing split screen with a mate. #12 Agree(9) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply cyberninja + 1065d ago Mgs, gow and uncharted. #13 Agree(5) | Disagree(5) | Report | Reply pr0t0typeknuckles + 1065d ago this is tough,personally,FOR ME ONLY,IN MY OPINION sands of time trilogy god of war trilogy sly trilogy jak trilogy #14 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(4) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply unchartedxplorer + 1065d ago Uncharted. I love that series #15 Agree(6) | Disagree(5) | Report | Reply Root + 1065d ago Uncharted, when I saw that game on the PS3 for the first time I knew next gen was here....but when I played Uncharted 2 I was blown away with how much effort they put into it. With Uncharted 3 I loved how they still managed to push things.....even the little things like the water/sand effects and Drakes movemtns, e.g Drake putting his hand on things as he's passing them Great characters, great character development, great story telling, great gameplay I could go on. I would of said Mass Effect but after the third game and how action like it got in ME2 while leaving it's RPG roots behind I don't think so... #16 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(5) | Disagree(6) | Report | Reply CapsLocke + 1065d ago Half-Life. Half Life 1, Half-Life 2 and 2 episodes - trilogy. #17 Agree(2) | Disagree(8) | Report | Reply Greyslash + 1065d ago The Shadow Hearts or Fatal Frame Trilogy. #18 Agree(1) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply nigelp520 + 1065d ago Shining Force 1 2 3 Original Panzer Dragoon Trilogy on Saturn #19 Agree(1) | Disagree(3) | Report | Reply Walker + 1065d ago Uncharted is the best series (trilogy) in this generation and Gran Turismo 1-3 is the best trilogy ever ! #20 Agree(4) | Disagree(7) | Report | Reply NateCole + 1065d ago I would say MGS but they are not a trilogy. #21 Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply RockmanII7 + 1065d ago Mass Effect and Halo are good choices. I think you could vote for any of the Naughty Dog Trilogies (Crash/Jak/Uncharted) along with the PS1/2 Insomniac Trilogies (Spyro/Ratchet). Going retro Super Mario Bros and Sonic are names worth bringing up, and as my name hints I think Mega Man 1-3 and Mega Man X1-X3 are notable too. Looking back at last gen, I think the Metroid Prime series has become under appreciated (Prime being the highest rated FPS ever on Metacritic, Prime 2/3 both being 90+) and God of War 1-3 are all 92+. Looking toward the future, I think The Batman: Arkham trilogy will be a big name if the 3rd game lives up to expectations and if Valve ever makes a Half Life 3 or Portal 3 then it too will be on the table. #22 Agree(2) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply Jek_Porkins + 1065d ago I'd say Halo, but that is only my personal opinion and I can understand why some wouldn't agree. Also loved the Mass Effect trilogy as well. #23 Agree(3) | Disagree(4) | Report | Reply nigelp520 + 1065d ago Sonic Advance games Mass Effect Trilogy Streets of Rage Tekken 1-3 Parasite Eve series Megaman Legends 1 and 2 with the spinoff #24 Agree(0) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply GABRIEL1030 + 1065d ago Uncharted. crap¡ #25 Agree(1) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply QuantumWake + 1065d ago Halo Mass Effect (Still a solid trilogy despite the flak 2 & 3 got) Uncharted Gears of War I've enjoyed a lot of them quite honestly. Can't really name them all. #26 Agree(4) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply _FantasmA_ + 1065d ago Halo? How dare you mention that clone and not puts it daddy Half Life up there. #26.1 Agree(0) | Disagree(9) | Report | Reply GoldenMonkey34 1065d ago | Spam QuantumWake + 1065d ago Like I said, there's a lot of them that I like. Half-Life is also definitely one of them. Halo has had such a big impact gaming wise on me. Too many hours spent on those games and it would be an insult on my behalf if I didn't mention them. I'm sorry! lol :( #26.1.2 (Edited 1065d ago ) | Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report _FantasmA_ + 1065d ago Halo 1 was decent but hardly original, and the series as whole is over rated. I don't get what you mean influental. It did nothing new. Metacritic means nothing, its a joke. According to you, Call of Duty is the best gaming franchise out there because they all score pretty high too. The only thing that Halo did that other games copied is having two weapons, which is stupid and I wish games wouldn't do that. #26.1.3 Agree(1) | Disagree(3) | Report Riderz1337 + 1065d ago Uncharted 1-3 #27 Agree(6) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply fsfsxii + 1065d ago Metal Gear Solid #28 Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply megalonagyix + 1065d ago Max Payne 1-3 Crysis 1-3 Deus Ex trilogy (even liked Invisible War) Fallout 1-3 for me #29 Agree(4) | Disagree(2) | Report | Reply d0nni3 + 1065d ago Good choices, i agree with you although i wasn't too bothered about Fallout. The Deus Ex trilogy isn't given nearly enough credit and for the stick Invisible War got i still really enjoyed playing it, Human Revolution suprised me as i expected it to be a massive let down but i enjoyed it from start to finish #29.1 Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report | Reply _FantasmA_ + 1065d ago Half Life, Deus Ex, Biohazard, Metal Gear. Now leave alone. #30 Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply Picnic + 1065d ago Unless you're in Japan you don't get to call Resident Evil 'Biohazard'. #30.1 Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report | Reply « 1 2 » Add comment You need to be registered to add comments. Register here or login Username Password Remember Rules & guidelines Login


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This main dish tastes as good as it looks and will be requested again and again. Vegetable broth and chicken broth are available in convenient 32-ounce resealable cartons. Cooking grains in broth adds flavor and pizzazz to your recipes.
Whole Grain Serving: 2
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Synonyms of minimize in English:
2 we should not minimize the value of his contribution
belittle, make light of, play down, underestimate, underrate, make little of, downplay, underplay, undervalue, detract from, sell short, de-emphasize, understate, discount, soft-pedal, reduce, lessen, brush aside, gloss over, trivialize, decry, disparage, deprecate, depreciate, denigrate
informal pooh-pooh
archaic hold cheap
[Antonyms] exaggerate
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