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But like you said, it should be fine either way if it's a good build. Just one of those details that is a preference of other builders. My view is that the stock equipment from Bonti/Trek/Specialized along with a few local handbuilders use the inside method on their wheels, the engineers at the MFG'ers have designed the wheel in this fashion, so it must be the best design. That and Sheldon say so!:p
According to Sheldon, the inside spokes should be laced so that they are trailing spokes. His theory is trailing spokes are under more stress than the leading spkes. Being on the inside of the hub flange, they will be better supported since the stress may cause them to flex resulting in hitting of the derailleur. Plus the flange support makes them stronger so they don't flex as much or far. Plus, in this position, if the chain were to hit the wheel for some reason, it would hit the leading spokes which are under less stress causing less damage. If it hits the trailing spokes, it would cause more damage since they are under more stress. So the trailing should be inside the flange to avoid contact witht the cahin, derailleur and as support for the trailing spokes uder stress.
UK says he laced them so that if the chain goes into the spokes, the direction of the spoke would direct the chain back onto the cogs. From what Sheldon says, I'd rather have the chain hit the leading spokes and not the trailing since they are under more stress. UK says the direction willnot affect the wheel if it is build properly.
On the pic below, two different directions.
Left pic. Trailing spokes are outside of the flange (farside) I want my money back!:D. Built by a local builder before I started building my own. This wheel has a tension problem. Does it have to do with the lacing?
Right pic. Trailing spokes are on the insdide for support and avoiding contact with the chain and derailleur once under stress.
Guess I'll have to give a 500 and 1000mi ride report and see how the spoke tension is holding up. ;)
So after one disappointing google attempt, where does one get a set of these rims?
Cuda, I just replaced the old steel gran compe headset on my bilenky with this:
It's very smooth and uses quality sealed cartridge bearings for only $40
in fact actually bough the hubs from these guys too off ebay. Fast email responses, good customer service, also bought my Fulcrum 5 Evo wheels from them.
Some UK (TotalCycling for instance) based shops carry the rims too, but for US based shops, they seem to be one of the few.
Hocam: thanks for the tip. Unforunately I trimmed my steerer tube on the Serotta to fit the Record HS, with a stack of 38mm. The Velo-Orange part has a stack of 42mm. Not sure how many threads I'd get on the lock nut with a 4mm stack difference. (kicks self for not putting a spacer on instead of cutting). One of the old tricks for getting more life out of a headset with some indexing is rotate each cup 90 degrees in opposite directions, hopefully it'll work here.
Ah I see.
Well, if you ever scrape together the dough, Chris King makes a low stack threaded headset, and you probably would never have to buy another one.
Once again, a tiny and insignificant difference, but I thought I'd blow it out of proportion just for fun :D
That's the wheel I built, 16,000 miles under my 220-240 lb body and has never needed truing!:thumb:
Thanks for the lesson. My handbuilt wheels(LBS) are laced like Cuda's. Now I will have something else to lose sleep over :)
I'm the same way. On the next few wheels I built after the one posted above, I did lace the spokes in the same direction just to be AR!:D...I had problems with wheels in the past, including handbuilt by local pros. Though I am a big rider , I couldn't figure out why they would fail. I stated building my own and they lasted. But I used every trick Sheldon gave me. I did look up tips on a couple of other sites and they say the same about the trailing spokes inside the flange.
I figure engineers at Bonti, Mavic and others along with Sheldon design and build wheels, I'll stick with their Knowledge!:thumb:
He says it doesn't matter how you lace the NDS, but then he states this:
If you take that seriously and apply it to your wheel in the photo, the drive side is pulling the spokes inward while the NDS is pulling it outward, which means the entire rim is being pulled to the left under acceleration. If that doesn't move the rim into the brake pad, I doubt Cuda's wheels would rub the derailleur.Quote:
1)The spokes are bent around each other at the outermost crossing. Under drive torque, especially in low gear, the trailing spokes straighten out and the leading spokes bend even more. If the wheel is laced with the trailing spokes on the outside of the flange, the crossing gets pulled outward toward the derailer cage, and in some cases will actually hit against the derailer only under load.
Of course, we're probably talking less than 1mm here, which is probably why Sheldon added the disclaimer:
My only opinion is that the shop that built your wheel did a crappy job unrelated to the lacing. The fact that you changed it when you built it yourself is probably not the reason it stopped failing. It stopped failing because you took the time to build it up right and with even tension. I've worked in shops before, and never saw a tension meter in any of the tool boxes. I don't recommend having wheels built by any shop unless the builder is actually recommended by name, not by the shop's name. That even goes for the wheels I built at Wheel World because the manager demanded a fast build and not a careful build (I'm happy that my name didn't go on those wheels, even though I think I did a decent job).Quote:
Note: This is not an important issue! There is a sizable minority of good wheelbuilders who prefer to go the other way around, and good wheels can be built either way
Anyway, I have built well over a hundred wheels in my life time, both heads in and heads out, and not a single one has broken a spoke. Not even the one I built for a 220 lb track sprinter. I'm confident in what I build, or I wouldn't be making them for others.
I can't blame you for siding with Sheldon, Mavic, and Bontrager, though. They have "built" more wheels than I ever could. Of course, I'm not disagreeing with them. I'm just not hell bent on one opinion. Should I be?
OK, just for fun I looked up some pics of major manufacturer wheels built with the trailing spokes on the outside of the flange. I guess even they can't make up their mind!
Mavic Ksyrium Equipe
Mavic Ksyrium Elite
Mavic Cosmic Carbones
Wheelsmith built Mavic CXP12
Bontrager Race Lite
Bontrager Race X Lite Carbon Aero (all of the spokes are on the outside)
Zipp 404 Clydesdale
Zipp Team Issue CSC Clinchers
That took me all of 10 minutes, and it seems about 50/50 split for the pictures I found. Mavic actually seemed to be mostly trailing spokes outside. Factory Zipps were the opposite, but as you can see, even they aren't particular.
True, biggest factor is a good build. But I can point out 6 other issues with the wheel you built but I won't so the others don't lose any sleep over it!:p
Oh good, I was about to PM you and consider closing up shop!
Spokes in a bind. Good one!
:lol: I was going to PM Beanz too and ask, cause I may be no wheel genius, but I certainly didn't see any issues with them. My tires shipped from PBK today, depending on the mail and such, there's a slim chance I'll get them by Friday, maybe Saturdy if I'm super lucky with the Thanksgiving holiday between now and then. Otherwise the new wheels will have to wait till the following weekend to hit the road.
Nice wheels. I thought i was the only guy on BF using 32 spoke wheels.
these 32h Ambrosio Execellight wheels.
Open Pro/Daytona 32h 3x.
Campagnolo Omega 19 / Campagnolo Record (classic) 32h 3x.
I've also got a set of 36h GP4/Record wheels, and some 27" wheels that I built as a 36h 3x build with some Araya rims and Shimano high flange hubs.
Only bike with non-traditional wheel build is my Fuji with a set of Fulcrum 5 Evolutions. But I have been known to throw my Open Pros on that bike for long charity rides where the road surface isn't the best.
The one time PBK's shipping hasn't been crazy fast is when I'm waiting on my new set of tires for these wheels! :mad:
hopefully they'll show in the mail today... but that's what I said yesterday.
When I read the title, I thought Ridgeback (the bike frame company, I think UK only) went into the wheel building business.
I didn't realize there was a company named Ridgeback in the bicycle industry already. I just named it after my dog who's main breed is Rhodesian Ridgeback.


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Packers fans anticipate the Lions' 0-16 season during Sunday's game at Lambeau Field. Corey Wilson/Press-Gazette
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Detroit 0 7 7 7 21
Green Bay 14 0 0 17 31
First Quarter
GB Wynn 73 run (Crosby kick), 8:49.
GB Finley 3 pass from Rodgers (Crosby kick), 1:29.
Second Quarter
Det C.Johnson 9 pass from Orlovsky (Hanson kick), 11:17.
Third Quarter
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Fourth Quarter
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GB Kuhn 5 pass from Rodgers (Crosby kick), 8:34.
Det Kev.Smith 9 run (Hanson kick), 7:32.
GB Driver 71 pass from Rodgers (Crosby kick), 7:16.
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Total Net Yards 316 484
Rushes-yards 29-96 27-211
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Kickoff Returns 4-68 4-91
Interceptions Ret. 0-0 2-60
Comp-Att-Int 22-42-2 21-31-0
Sacked-Yards Lost 1-5 4-35
Punts 7-43.3 3-37.7
Fumbles-Lost 0-0 3-1
Penalties-Yards 5-60 6-60
Time of Possession 30:02 29:58
RUSHING Detroit, Kev.Smith 28-92, Felton 1-4. Green Bay, Grant 19-106, Wynn 7-106, Rodgers 1-(minus 1).
PASSING Detroit, Orlovsky 22-42-2-225. Green Bay, Rodgers 21-31-0-308.
RECEIVING Detroit, C.Johnson 9-102, Standeford 3-82, Kev.Smith 3-7, Cason 2-9, Felton 2-5, Colbert 1-11, FitzSimmons 1-7, Owens 1-2. Green Bay, Driver 6-111, Jennings 5-101, Grant 3-23, Finley 2-29, Jones 2-14, Wynn 1-16, Nelson 1-9, Kuhn 1-5.
MISSED FIELD GOALS Green Bay, Crosby 69 (SH).
The Green Bay Packers were one of the NFLs most disappointing teams in 2008, but at least they avoided a disastrous ending.
They finished a season of major transition at quarterback on Sunday by playing hard to the end and sending the hapless Detroit Lions into the history books as the only NFL team to lose every game in a 16-game season with a 31-21 win at Lambeau Field.
It ended the Packers' five-game losing streak, their longest since the teams renaissance began in 1992, and sent them into the offseason with a few good vibes. However, they also go home with a disappointing 6-10 record a season after losing in overtime in the NFC championship game.
We know we have good players, Packers cornerback Charles Woodson said, (but) sometimes that doesnt amount to a good team. For whatever reason, last year was a good team, and this year it just wasnt there. So it didnt work out well for us. Disappointed, never would have expected it, but here we are.
This game was important if for no other reason than the Lions wanted to avoid making history, and the Packers just as badly wanted to avoid being the only team to lose to the Lions in 2008. A loss to the Lions would have mortified the teams fans and management and made for an especially ugly entry into the offseason.
To that end, the Packers dominated and outgained the Lions 484 yards to 316 yards. They set an NFL record, becoming the first team to have two players (Donald Driver and Greg Jennings) each gain at least 100 yards receiving and two players (Ryan Grant and DeShawn Wynn) each rush for at least 100 yards in the same game.
Yet, as has been the case much of the season, the Packers didnt convert all that production into a decisive lead.
Detroit tied the game at 14 on a 14-yard touchdown pass from quarterback Dan Orlovsky to receiver Calvin Johnson early in the third quarter, and then cut another Packers lead to 24-21 on halfback Kevin Smiths 9-yard touchdown run with 7:32 left in the game.
Suddenly, the unthinkable became thinkable.
You feel like, Oh man, were trying to hand this game over again, defensive tackle Ryan Pickett said. But thats how I felt all year. Wed be winning and its just like, just waiting for them to come and take it from us. Thats good that we got to finish like that. Its good that they pushed us to the end and we were able to come through and finish like we should have been doing all year.
This time, the Packers answered Detroits rally with an immediate haymaker of their own.
On the first play after the Lions kicked off, coach Mike McCarthy came out in personnel he often uses on running downs two tight ends, two linebackers and only Donald Driver at receiver. McCarthy, though, called a play-action pass, sent Driver on a stop-and-go route against cornerback Leigh Bodden. Rodgers hit the wide-open receiver with a perfect throw that turned into a 71-yard touchdown. In one play, the Packers had pushed the lead to 10 points at 31-21 and delivered a near-fatal blow to the Lions upset hopes.
I just told Mike (McCarthy) that I appreciate the call, Rodgers said. It shows a lot of confidence in myself for him to call a play like that in a running set with two tight ends on the field.
Rodgers finished on a high note, completing about two-thirds of his passes (21-for-31) for 308 yards, topping the 300-yard mark for the fourth time this season. He had no interceptions on a day when the wind appeared much stronger than the 13 mph announced just before the opening kickoff. His passer rating of 132.2 points, coming against the leagues worst defense, was his highest of the season.
I think (Rodgers) created an excellent platform and foundation for us to build off of, McCarthy said. But the other side of the spectrum is now the NFL. Opponents now have a book on him and those are the types of things you need to prepare for and be smart from a self-scout standpoint.
The Packers defense gave up 316 yards to a Lions team that came into Sunday ranked No. 30 in the NFL in total yards and No. 27 in points. Orlovsky appeared to have far more trouble with the wind than Rodgers and finished with a passer rating of only 64.1 points (22-for-42 for 225 yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions). Safety Nick Collins ended the Lions faint hopes when he intercepted Orlovskys prayer thrown into four-man coverage on Johnson at the goal line with 2:45 to play.
The Packers major issue going into the offseason is whether McCarthy will bring back Bob Sanders for a fourth season as defensive coordinator. The defenses failures in the clutch have been a major storyline this season. McCarthy probably will have to decide this week whether to let go a loyal assistant whom he likes and respects.
Several defensive players declined or avoided comment on whether they thought Sanders would be back.
Woodson, who just finished his 11th season, said he thinks the Packers' priority should be to sign a couple of battle-tested veteran free agents who know theres no guarantee youll get there, theres no guarantee youll be on a team next year, some guys that really know what its all about, he said.
Woodson wouldnt comment on whether Sanders will be back, but when asked whether those free agents will be enough to get the team over the hump next year, he also suggested Sanders needs to simplify his calls.
I always try to speak from the defensive side, Woodson said, and defensively at times we just tried to do too much, tried to out-think our opponent too much rather than just putting guys in position to just make plays. It bit us a couple times this season, where we had kind of control of things and then all of a sudden we try to do something else, try to get a little too cute, and a team burns us. Its one of those things, you just need a few things here and there and well be all right.


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I think Henry had this in the works for at least 4 years, so I'm sure it's well thought out.Personally I don't find it nearly as aesthetically pleasing as the Moment 1P or the Scarp 2P, but it's a victim of geometry. If I owned one, perhaps I would name it "Big Bertha".> BTW, the second vestibule is something I would sacrifice > for a significant weight savingsWell the Force Ten Helium Carbon 200 Tent has one vestibule: http://www.forcetentents.com/helium-carbon-200.htmlIt's probably more like a 1.5 person tent.Going larger, the Vaude Power Lizard SUL 2-3P has a wider floor than the TarpTent and weighs a claimed 44 oz: http://www.vaude.com/en-GB/Products/Tents/Power-Lizard-SUL-2-3P-green.htmlIn addition to comparing tents with similar pole structures, it's interesting to compare tents of similar weights. The GoLite Imogene UL 3P comes to mind, which gives a lot more floor area, but less ventilation options. The Big Agnes Copper Spur UL2 is just about the same weight too.
@Peter:Is the process for shelters anything like headnets?Bob
Always horses for courses.If you try to squeeze in two person inside the lightest design the DM is not it..But if you do you may just end up having something that looks like this :http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/vango_helium_superlite200_review.htmlOn the other hand, the larger Vaude Power Lizard SUL 2-3P is listed at 505 euro, about $700USD, having one entry point only will not work for some anyway.DM : Double Moment(one of the tents discussed in this thread)
Edited by Franco on 05/08/2014 21:10:31 MDT.
What is DM?Yeah, the inner of the Force Ten Helium Carbon 200 Tent is probably the same width at the ends as the Vango Helium Superlite 200: 80 cm (31.5 inches)I see the Vaude Power Lizard SUL 2-3P from a retailer for $405. I can't find any reviews of it though.There's also the Robens' Buzzard: http://www.robens.de/en/Products/Tents/Lite/Buzzard.aspx
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I'm not trying to say that the Double Moment should have been designed differently. It's just that I can't have what I want and I'm whining!And thanks Henry and Franco for the tent design lesson. I now have a better understanding of why it was made the way it was. The tent fabric at the ends being "in your face" comment made the design make sense to me.
Has anyone on BPL bought one of these? I've been looking high and low for reviews, and there don't seem to be any.
I feel the ends of the Moment 2P are just too large and will not be be "wind worthy". I'll stick with my heavily modded (winterized) Scarp 2. And even the Scarp 2's low ends must be secured with 3 guy lines to be secure in a windstorm.Does the Moment 2P answer a question that has not been asked?The Moment DW and SW have far smaller ends that can be secured with Velcro and will withstand a fair amount of wind.For maximum wind/weather protection I've sewn Heavy Duty Velcro closure strips to the silnylon end flaps and tent area on THREE sides so it would take a full gale directly at one end to threaten to open it. That's because I plan to use it as a winter solo tent and don't want the possibility of spindrift snow entering the tent. Even so it often seems to find a way in to coat everything with a powdery layer by morning. It takes a "waterproof" zipper to stop it.NOTE: I just realized this is the very first Tarptent design with which I have taken substantial issue. This is almost blasphemy to me. ;o) Mea culpa, mea culpa.
Edited by Danepacker on 06/26/2015 15:18:04 MDT.
"Does the Moment 2P answer a question that has not been asked?"The question had been asked, something like this one :I am 6'5" ,hike with a partner and like the single hoop design, is there a tent like that for me ?(no I am not 6'5" but apparently some are...)This is a frame from the 3d video clip on the product page :note the extra headroom those 6' dummies have .To be specific, they have exactly one extra foot laying down because the outward sloping inner (!) has a fully useable 84" floor.
Edited by Franco on 06/26/2015 16:38:57 MDT.
Great info as always.On a diffetent subject, any idea when a 2 man Protrail might be made?
Henry gets back to his design phase at the end of the US hiking season.Upscaling the Pro Trail design for two probably does not work all that well and we do already have the Squall for a minimalistic front entry shelter.There is however a somewhat "Pro Trail" look 2 person tent waiting somewhere inside Henry's CAD programme.
Thanks for the info,Franco.
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Until fairly recently not much attention has been paid to osteoporosis in men.
In large part this is because it is considerably more common in women. It is now known that men have fractures due to osteoporosis about 10 years later in life than women.
More troubling findings are that men are more likely to die from hip fractures. And if they survive their fracture it is more common for them to lose their independence.
About a third of hip fractures are in men. They can also get fractures in their backbones. Some of these fractures are what we call spontaneous. That is they don't have to be associated with a fall or injury but the bones just get too thin to bear the body's weight. The same is true with women.
The bottom line for this information is that older men need to be more concerned about this possibility than they are now.
The question has arisen whether all men over a certain age should have a bone density test since this is the only way to be sure if the bones are getting thin. The test is not painful. The consensus at this time is that this doesn't need to be done.
However, men do need to know the risk factors. The following list is taken from a Medicare website:
- Age 50 or older.
- Family history of broken bones.
- Personal history of broken bones.
- White or Asian.
- Small-boned and/or have low body weight (less than about 127 pounds).
- Smoke or drink a lot.
- Have a low-calcium diet.
Other risk factors are a low vitamin D level or men with prostate cancer who have had their testicles removed or been given certain medications tor suppress their sex hormones.
The appropriate thing for a man to do, if he has any of the above factors, is at some time discuss his concern with his primary care provider. He/she should be able to advise whether a bone density test or a vitamin D level should be done.
The bone density test could reveal osteopenia, which means thin bones but is not as severe as osteoporosis.
Most private insurance companies will pay for this test if your provider has ordered it. Medicare will pay for it on the following basis providing it has been ordered: Medicare Part B covers bone mass measurements to determine whether or not you are at risk for a fracture (broken bone). This test is covered once every 24 months, or more often if your doctor deems it necessary.
If a patient has been found to have osteopenia or osteoporosis there are several medications that can be taken to help build up bones.
There is a also an injection called teraparitide or Forteo that can be quite effective but is usually used for more advanced osteoporosis. There may be some lifestyle things that would need to be done.
The most important thing an older man can do is discuss the issue with his medical care provider.
The journal Current Osteoporosis Reports 2011 was largely the source for this article.
Dr. Don Casebolt of College Place is a retired physician who is passionate about preventive medicine. He spent four years as a medical officer in the U.S. Navy, the last 21/2 years as a flight surgeon. He also worked on the Navajo Reservation for 22 years.
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(checks herp-o-meter) "Yup. Herpies."
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Her breasts and gunt are in line with each other.
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She's the only woman required by law to have a Biohazard sign stitched on to her panties.
I wonder if the answer to her bankruptcy problems is in Germany.
Good luck Pam….I think you need it now more than ever.
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"Given that X is the going rate in Euros for a blowjob, and the exchange rate is 1 Euro = 1.31USD, and the average length of a German penis is 5.6″, how many miles of cock will Pam Anderson have to smoke to pay off her $525,000USD in back taxes?"
what a sexy look, the belly sticks out way farther than her tits! Pretty soon her cleavage is going to be around her belly button. EWW
Hepatitis C comes in Yellow?
Oh. So that's how 45 year old women are dressing these days.
"It's called a litmus dress. If it turns yellow, then…oh my god. It's happening. Call the CDC. NOW!"
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All of you are assholes. ESP gran poobah, when/if you even make it to 45 ……pls.
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|Paul Gross
Peter Berg
Finola Hughes
Teri Polo
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Aspen Extreme is a 1993 film about two ski buddies, TJ Burke (Paul Gross) and Dexter Rutecki (Peter Berg), who move from Brighton, Michigan to Aspen to seek a better life. The two friends quickly become Aspen ski instructors, but women, drugs, and job troubles threaten to destroy their relationship. Along the way, TJ tries to realize his dream of becoming a professional writer, and the pair train for the upcoming Powder 8 ski competition.
The supporting cast includes Finola Hughes, Teri Polo, William Russ, and Trevor Eve. The cover of the US video release quotes the Seattle Times as referring to the film as "Top Gun on the Ski Slopes."
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T.J.Burke quits his job in Detroit and convinces his friend Dexter Rutecki to move to Aspen. After succeeding in tryouts, they both become ski instructors. While T.J. advances to the most popular instructor of the school during the season, he has to take care for Dexter, whose future is less bright and eventually thinking about being a drug courier - which tests their friendship. T.J. and Dexter decide to ski out of bounds in order to train for the upcoming Powder-8 competition. While skiing outside the boundaries of Aspen, T.J. and Dexter set off an avalanche. Dexter suffers a tragic demise, while T.J. escapes with minor injuries. Meanwhile the rich business woman Bryce supports T.J. in his writing ambitions and invites him to live at her home. But in her absence he falls in love with the stunningly beautiful blonde radio moderator Robin. T.J. is sought out by a newly hired young ski instructor to be his partner in the Powder-8. They win the competition, beating T.J.'s nemesis throughout the movie. And finishing he and Dexter's dream of winning the Powder-8.
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- William McNamara as Todd Pounds
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Chesapeake Energy Corporation (CHK) is an US oil and gas company, where it is the second largest producer of natural gas and tenth largest producer of liquids (crude and NGL). The stock pulled back after giving up its 16% gain in H1 2014. A large portion of the decline in July was the result of Chesapeake spinning of its oil field service segment. The value from the business segment was transferred to the new company called Seventy Seven Energy (SSE). (2)
Chesapeake is largely an E&P (Exploration and Production) company. Its core operation involves discovering new resources, extracting hydrocarbons from the ground, and ultimately selling them to refineries. Chesapeake's production historically consisted of mainly natural gas and the firm benefited from the rise in natural gas prices. Natural gas prices enjoyed a nice run for over a decade before the decline. Prices surged over 500% from 2000 to the most recent peak in 2008. Unfortunately, as fracking became more efficient and prevalent, the supply of natural gas skyrocketed. Fracking allowed companies to gain access to reserves that were out of reach using conventional methods. As natural gas production increased, prices slumped, shedding more than 70% of its 2008 value at its low in 2012. It has since made a modest recovery. Unfortunately, there was no hedge beyond the short-term derivatives, which could not protect Chesapeake from the drastic drop in price. Chesapeake has since shifted focus towards oil production.
Total production increased by 23% from 2011 to 2013 and average sales price increased from $24.12/boe (barrels of oil equivalent) in 2012 to $27.92/boe in 2013. In addition, the management has been keen on divesting non-core and poorly performing assets, including the Permian Basin in 2012 and virtually all midstream assets in 2013. These actions brought the company back into profit zone and decreased production costs by 14% in 2013.
Despite the strong overall production growth, the R/P (reserve/production) ratio was still in line with its comparables in 2013. Reserve replacement ratios (RRR) and Organic RRR were also well above the median of its comparables (see below). This suggests that the company will continue to maintain a strong asset base in the future to sustain production growth without the need for acquisition.
After a strong 2013, Q1 2014 results continued to impress investors. Compared to Q1 2013, liquids production increased drastically, natural gas production decreased, and average prices increased thanks to higher oil prices. All of the above contributed to higher cash flows for the quarter, which is critical for Chesapeake to meet its budgeted capital expenditure.
The management is expected to spend around $5B in capex in 2014. Q1 results showed that Chesapeake was on track to adhere to this guideline with just cash from operations. In addition, the $1B in cash can cushion any moderate shocks as the result of commodity price fluctuations.
The improvements are evident in Chesapeake's Fundamentals Scores calculated by Market IQ.
Market IQ places Chesapeake in the right quadrant of the Quality/Value chart indicating good Quality and strong Investment Value.
The firm's qualitative strengths can be seen in the following areas (3):
Based on Market IQ's valuation metrics, Chesapeake is trading at a discount relative to its peers. Two multiples stand out particularly: EV/Daily Production and EV/Reserve.
Production is directly related to future cash flows, and high reserve numbers represent a strong asset base. Considering these two metrics, Chesapeake exhibits characteristics that are attractive for value-oriented investors. In addition, the fact that Chesapeake has consistently beaten analyst estimates in the past year should provide investors with another layer of assurance. (4)
Demographic challenges:
In order to create a leaner and more efficient company, Chesapeake spun off its oilfield services segment on July 1st,2014; the new company emerged as Seventy Seven Energy on NYSE. The segment's revenue historically hovered around 1% of Chesapeake's revenue, thus the spinoff will not have substantial impacts on Chesapeake's cash flow. This move netted Chesapeake shareholders $400 million in dividends and took away $1.1 B in debt. This also reflects the management's dedication on divesting non-core assets.
Looking forward:
Ever since Mr. McClendo's (ex-CEO) departed in 2013, Chesapeake has reversed his strategy which involved borrowing heavily. The debt was used to finance speculative resource plays, and ultimately forced the company to divest valuable assets when they failed. Going forward with the current strategy, Chesapeake will continue to reduce debt load while achieving a sustainable growth.
Carl Icahn's involvement with the company will also ensure stability within the company and make sure that the management will adhere to the current strategy. Carl Icahn has quite a history with Chesapeake, and his most recent investment in the company dates back to 2012. In his letter to shareholders in 2012, Carl Icahn reaffirmed his belief that Chesapeake had top quality resource assets. He believed that the management was taking too much risk and should stick to the basics. Under his pressure, the company continued to divest non-core assets and became a leaner company. The shareholders will not be subjected to too much operational uncertainty in the future given Carl Icahn's influence.
Thanks to supply concerns, average Q2 WTI spot prices were 4.8% higher than Q1. Combined with increased production, both revenue and earnings may see a significant increase over Wall-Street consensus. Although there were fears of potential disruption of Iraq's oil production due to ongoing conflicts, they have since dispersed. However, with Libya opening up two of its terminals, additional 600,000 barrels of oil will be added to the global supply per day, thus the downward pressure that surfaced in Q3 may continue. As oil prices are a key driver of Chesapeake's revenue, expected decline in oil prices may dampen investor enthusiasm.
(1) Stock declined by 10.32% (2) The shareholders obtained 1 SSE share for every 14 CHK shares. (3) Quality is comprised of profitability, financial strength, growth, and estimate momentum (4) CHK has beaten the Wall Street consensus 6 out of the last 7 times.
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Drought-tolerant; suitable for xeriscaping
Average Water Needs; Water regularly; do not overwater
10-12 ft. (3-3.6 m)
12-15 ft. (3.6-4.7 m)
15-20 ft. (4.7-6 m)
6-8 ft. (1.8-2.4 m)
8-10 ft. (2.4-3 m)
USDA Zone 8b: to -9.4 �C (15 �F)
USDA Zone 9a: to -6.6 �C (20 �F)
USDA Zone 9b: to -3.8 �C (25 �F)
USDA Zone 10a: to -1.1 �C (30 �F)
USDA Zone 10b: to 1.7 �C (35 �F)
USDA Zone 11: above 4.5 �C (40 �F)
Sun to Partial Shade
Plant has spines or sharp edges; use extreme caution when handling
From seed; germinate in vitro in gelatin, agar or other medium
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On Jan 29, 2013, kostheos from Athens
Actually inflorescence bracts of Trithrinax brasiliensis in contrast to Trithrinax acanthocoma are snow-white before dessication. Nice plant, indestructible by cold and fairly immune to abuse. It needs plenty of water in summer.
On Jan 27, 2012, jlevert from Augusta, GA wrote:
Trithrinax grows well for me in Augusta, Ga., but needs to be fertilized carefully. It can suffer from Boron deficiency, so watch for the central growth area starting to grow sideways and for leaves that become small and distorted.
On Oct 8, 2011, SuburbanNinja80 from Plainfield, IN (Zone 6a) wrote:
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Russo's was a great choice for limos. During the planning, I spoke with both Mike & Maria and they were both professional and really great to work with. The drivers were on time & knew where they were going. We had 2 limos for our wedding- 1 for the guys & 1 for the girls. The limos are really nice and they provided a red carpet for me (the Bride). The driver also helped carry my train so it would not drag on the ground. They were really nice guys. We wish we also rented the tuxes from Russo's because their customer service was so great. I highly recommend them.
We were delighted by the performance and service of Russo's Limousine (which we arranged through their partner tuxedo shop in Stoneham) for our September wedding as we hired a vintage 1971 Rolls Royce Shadow and Limousine using this company.
They were very accommodating to us and the drivers (I believe they were both called John) helped to make the event a very memorable occasion with their high level of care and service for the bride, groom and wedding party. In particular, they were inredibly helpful with the bride's dress and making sure that everything ran like clockwork. The suggestion of the Rolls Royce driver to take the bride and groom on a short journey directly after the wedding so that they would have time to savour the moment before was excellent, as he ws proven right that we didn't have much time to ourselves after that point for the rest of the day.
We owe it to Russo's Limousine to provide them with as glowing a testimonial and as high and positive a recommendation as we can provide and are happy to be added to their list of admirers, as they really surpassed our expectations and really helped to made our wedding an incredible and unforgettable experience for us and our guests!
This company is amazing! They don't really advertise and rely on word-of-mouth for the most part. This allows them to charge a lot less than other companies (I was getting quotes from other companies in amounts in the thousands, they kept it between $800 and $850 for the wedding). Their service and attention to detail is incredible. I first contacted Maria for a limo for my mother's 60th birthday. The driver we had that night was extremely attentive and professional. He even took photos for us.
The wedding day experience was even better. We got a 22 passenger Hummer complete with granite counter tops inside! (Not that I really cared about that but it enhanced the look of the limo and made everyone feel very fancy!) They provided two bottles of champagne with the limo for no additional cost. The driver was prompt and professional and even though the limo was a tight squeeze on the side streets, he never complained about where we wanted him to go.
I was able to book over the phone, pay by credit card over the phone, and coordinate everything without ever once meeting a person face-to-face which was fantastic for me since I live 1600 miles from my wedding venue.
Maria is the one in charge there and provides excellent service. She returns phone calls in a timely manner, answers every question effectively, and charges a totally reasonable amount. As far as limo companies are concerned, this place is the best whether you book for a wedding or other special occasion.
I cannot say enough GREAT things about Russo! Their limousines were clean, beautiful, and exactly what we had asked for! The chauffeurs were professional, helpful, and knowledgeable when it came to weddings. One even walked me into the church and fluffed out my train perfectly! I highly recommend Russo!