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Andre Ward was lying about the difficulties Canelo is going face shiffting those extra 2 pounds and how it will hinder his performance even though he forced Dawson to come down to 168? Really. Dawson requested they do it at 172 at the negotiating table, Ward has confirmed this but he insisted he come down to 168. Gee I wonder why.Posted September 13, 2013 6:12 pm
Adamek was obviously weight drained against Dawson. By god you're the most dense person on here. He looked like a completely different fighter when he moved up. He looked as thin as a stick insect at 175. He fought 3 decentish opponents at that weight before facing Dawson, winning 2 highly controversial life and death decisions over a C fighter in Paul Briggs, who dropped and hurt the weak weakened Adamek almost everytime he caught him clean, and he beat glass jaw Ulrich who was knocked out 6 times out of his 7 loses. Or are you going to try and tell me Ulrich and Briggs were world beaters? Adamek would've crushed Briggs at his natural weight.Posted September 13, 2013 6:06 pm
Canelo doesn't know how drained he's going to be on the night because he hasn't fought at that weight in 2 and a half years. He only made that weight back then because his body was still growing you fool. And he's still growing now. He's also obviously going to be training even harder for this fight than he has for any of his others and his body is going to need to replenish those calories he's burning at an even greater rate than normal. Only problem is he's not going to be able to do that because he's struggling like mad to get down to the catchweight. He's eating small portions of rabbit food and friends, sparring partners, and even himself have admitted that he's having to train till late and constantly walking around in a sweat suit. We already know he has stamina problems due to him having to cut down to 154, and yet idiot you think him having to get down to 152 is not going to hinder him even further in that regard? Priceless stupidity.Posted September 13, 2013 6:00 pm
The thing that you're having a major problem grasping here is it's not just Mayweather, Ward, Ellerbe's opinion that Canelo having to shed those extra 2 pounds is going to drain and weaken him, it's pretty much the consensus opinion of everyone involved in the boxing world who knows what the hell they're talking about. You're saying Mayweather didn't actually believe Pacquiao was draining his opponents by forcing them to fight at a catchweight and that he never said it was tantamount to legal cheating or that it was something he'd never do. He just made it up despite the fact he's now making Canelo fight at one and made himself look like a gigantic hypocrite and a liar. He and members of his team have openly admitted they know the catchweight is going to drain Canelo you stupid fool. This fight would be being fought at 154 if he didn't think the catchweight was going to have a huge negative impact on Canelo. He tried to get Canelo to come down to 148, then 150, the 151. He has admitted to this. He even tried to get Canelo to agree to a next day rehydration clause as well, which he told him to keep schtum about. Ellerbe has confirmed that they wanted Canelo to come down to 147, then 150, and then 151. Canelo always wanted the fight at 154, not at a catchweight. He had to agree to the catchweight otherwise Mayweather never would've of fought him
Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe said it was simply the "A-side" fighter getting the upside over the "B-side" fighter. Mayweather usually fights at 147 pounds.
Team Mayweather are openly admitting the catchweight is going to affect Canelo.
"We just took advantage of a situation. It's no different from basketball, football or baseball," he said. "You're always going to put your opposition at a disadvantage, if you can. You break 'em down and you go in for the kill.
But then they're openly contradicting themselves yet again by coming out with stuff like this.
Leonard Ellerbe and Floyd – "We don't care what Canelo weighs come fight night. Skills pay the bills."
So why insist on a cachweight and request on a next day rehydration clause then if that's the case?
Mayweather, Ellerbe, and idiot fanboys like you are constantly contradicting yourselves, and the reason why that is is because you're all incredibly dim.Posted September 13, 2013 5:52 pm
You clearly completely clueless about weight cutting. It's not an extra 2 pounds, Canelo walked into camp at 172 pounds without any fat on him and has had to shift 20 pounds of muscle. People were saying they had no idea how he was going to get down to 152 back then. Ask any fighter who has had to do what he's doing how difficult it is to shift those last few extra pounds and they'll tell you it's the hardest thing they ever had to do. When you're already struggling to get down to a weight those last few extra pounds are an absolute killer. This is what boxer Donovan George had to say about the difficulties Canelo will face.
"Oh it's absolutely murderous. You know, people who are casual fans they don't understand that 2 pounds for a guy like him who is already a big 154 pounder, it's like cutting off a leg. It is just brutal and there's no way to describe the pain, both physically and mental, that you go through to make weight. 2 pounds to him is going to feel like 20."Posted September 13, 2013 5:51 pm
It's an opinion. So Ward can't make a prediction but most of these clowns on this site can, who never boxed in their lives? Ward is the P4P number 1, this sport is based on what have you done for me lately. Ward has cleaned out a division which Mayweather has not done in all of his career. It's no knock on Floyd it's a fact. ODLH a crackhead can make a prediction thou but Andre Ward may not dare. Let all the armchair Eddie Futches opine their views thou. Delusional people on this site.Posted September 13, 2013 7:41 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
BEARS: Yeah… he's definitely the biggest waste of time on ESB. So it's probably no coincidence that he's also the biggest waste of life on ESB.
You and Anonymous did one H3LL of a job at tearing him a new a-hole before I arrived. Great job of keeping these lower-tier "bottom feeder" posters down in their place! Bravo!Posted September 12, 2013 8:44 pm
lol!!!! goodstuff lionking. yeah he's probably east sides biggest waste of time should just pass his posts. i use to i should go back to thatPosted September 12, 2013 8:08 pm
Rome, Floyd is TOO smart and understands "protect yourself at all times" the last guy that got out of line with Floyd ended up asking "Who is the President" in Spanish while a doctor examined his pupils with a pen light…Neither Floyd nor Canelo are dirty fighters why would you wish for anything other than a well contested bout of high caliber? Sounds like your personal feelings have made you into a very lowly individual wishing for cheating on Canelos part… Tsk, Tsk, TskPosted September 12, 2013 7:22 pm
Bears, your rant below is SOOOOOOO childish it barely merits consideration… OF COURSE Mayweather gets the most money he's the BOSS… Pac Man was awesome at his peak but he's been flattened by Mayweathers light work that fight was not coming off EVER because Top Rank and Golden Boy simply will not work together… When is the LAST fight they did together? They have even split on Networks, Showtime is handling Golden Boy fighters and HBO is working with Top Rank…Canelo took this fight because like EVERYONE else its the MOST money he will make for ONE night in his career…. Hes getting paid around 12.5 million dollars, his next best payday was against Josesito Lopez where he made 2 mill and 1.2mill against Mosley… Mayweather gave him a 600% raise his kids owe Floyd a debt of gratitude even though their Dad might be a TAD slower after Mayweather rings his bell during this bout…. C'mon man you gotta do better than saying "Mayweathers a biatch" your child of suspect parentage could do better than that…..Posted September 12, 2013 7:19 pm
Rome, AGAIN clearly you DON'T watch boxing… When its time to tie up your opponent you do what you gotta do… What are you advocating for a DQ because Mayweather was not gonna let Shane knock him out?? LOL….. "A crime" you sound ridiculous…. Shane had his chance and Mayweather took it away stop whining this is a combat sport!Posted September 12, 2013 6:59 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
"Ward ducking GGG? How's that when Golovkin fights at 160 and during the special "2 Days with Gennady Golovkin" he sat across the table from Ward, called SOG a Great Champion and basically said he is not looking in that direction at this point… Besides Golovkin went on record and said his dream bout like EVERYONE'S is Floyd Mayweather"
REALITY CHECK: 3G has been calling out all the champions from 154lbs to 168lbs for close to two years now. FACT! That includes both FMJ and Ward. It's TRUE that 3G is on record saying it's his ultimate dream to fight FMJ at 154lbs, so we'll see if Duckweather is man enough to face 3G before his contract is up. I predict that FMJ wouldn't agree to fight 3G at 154lbs in a million years, and WARD will do everything he can to avoid him. That's called FEAR!
I watched that same special "2 Days with Gennady Golovkin" and 3G also said, "I definitely want to fight Ward in the future." Ward responded by saying, "I'm just listening." So, it's very clear that Ward refused to accept the challenge to fight in the future and is totally intimidated.
You said,"He's another puncher that would not be able to deal with a slick boxer.." That statement PROVES that you really don't know much about boxing at all. 3G is FAR MORE that just "another puncher." He's a highly-skilled, elite boxer-puncher who just happens to have scary power and a granite chin. He's one the best amateur boxers in history and has NEVER touched the canvas in over 375 fights.
Real talk!Posted September 12, 2013 5:25 pm
Shredmond, I have never seen at anytime a fighter be allowed to armbar the way he armbarred Shane that night. It was a crime to allow that and if the ref whould had stepped in the way he should have, Floyd would not be a topic today because he would still be in a coma. As mentioned, the catch weight is the only reason Floyd taking a chance. Canelo took it because he hasnt fought anybody worth a name and Mayweather is his ticket. I think Canelo should sucker punch Floyd and save give us a good laugh.Posted September 12, 2013 5:21 pm
mayweathers a biatch he wouldnt fight canelo without the catchweight ADVANTAGE. concessions canelo chose to make to get the fight made for us fans canelo made the SACRIFICE while mayweather demanded advantage. we seen mayweather do similar things in other fight negotiatians like demanding he get most the money if he were to fight pac and demand 100 obviously a number so high he thought he bid himself out of the fight. fans owe canelo thanks for making the sacrifice to make this we all wanted happen. mayweathers the biatch he always has been hiscareer depicts the biatch perfectly. he's too biatch not enough warrior. mayweather didnt seek catchweight advantage on anyone but canelo. even disparaging pac for catchweights. floyds on his way out anyway. no more years of layoffs and ped cycles. canelo will do a number on him and be his best opponent to date and we will have seedmonds quote saying canelo wont do as good as oscar.Posted September 12, 2013 4:15 pm
Bears, you CANNOT have a "consensus" on another mans physical condition.. YOU and the rest of these EXCUSE-MAKING BUMS…. Do NOT know Alvarez, You are NOT his trainer, you want to dismiss his OWN comments LOL…. MOST important you have NOT even seen the fight, what if Canelo looks BETTER than EVER????? Sitting here at a computer screen you have just decided he is "drained" thats WEAK and its called a preset excuse… He has had MONTHS to prepare fo the bout and he will have to OWN his own results…AGAIN the fight has NOT even happened and you and these goons are ruling on the guys condition… Thats CRAZYYYYYYY!Posted September 12, 2013 4:08 pm
Bears, there is ALWAYS and excuse and if that is the case then we should outlaw guys changing weight classes… No moving up or MOVING DOWN…. Because this becomes a packaged EXCUSE for the WEAK… Are you BACK sucking off ANOTHER guy on the Board? How many have there been? you must REALLY enjoy variety when it comes to another mans JIZZ dripping from your chin…. Reality is that at least this Nameless Poster "Anonymous" puts a little effort into his terrible thesis whereas YOU are simply a cheerleader with hairy legs… I cannot be thwarted, you best put your effort towards lightening striking Mayweather in the ring because your prediction of a Canelo win is gonna be stuffed up your rectum like Richard Geres favorite Gerbil…LOLPosted September 12, 2013 4:06 pm
The VIEW that matters to me is that ALL these guys KNOW what the terms of the bout are… If you choose to fight at a contracted weight whether you MOVE UP or MOVE DOWN you are 100% responsible for the results… Mayweather used to fight at 130, how do you think he did that? By making WEIGHT Canelo used to fight at 147, how did he do that? MAKING WEIGHT…. Its bogus to give guys a pass everytime they move up or down the ladder with this rationale Floyd should get a pass should he lose to the LARGER Canelo? and why would guys propose OBVIOUSLY bigger fighters like Sergio and GGG???? GTFOH you sign the contract, you take the money you get NOOOOOOO excuse… A 39 year old Hopkins who later skipped 168 and went to 175 came down to 158 and stopped the smaller, YOUNGER ODH… Canelo is ONLY 23 his body can handle 1.5 pounds from his LAST weigh in against Trout against a guy who is 13 years OLDER (and you call Mosley ancient LMAO) and likely 15-20 pounds lighter the night of the fight…Posted September 12, 2013 3:59 pm
the concensus view is the weight drain matters. thats the view in boxing. hbo was all over chad about it in the shows leading up to dawson vs ward. hbo saying the concensus view is chad will be greatly effected. u think they werent right sredmond? anonymous has owned u repeatedly. u obviously dont mind being raped over n over againPosted September 12, 2013 2:10 pm
How does Ellerbes opinion of Cotto confirm ANYTHING? Those camps "Mayweather and Pacquiao" hate eachother… Is Ellerbe Pacquiaos nutritionist or trainer? is he a physician? NOOOOO he is another guy offering an opinion that has political motivations given his allegiance and paycheck coming from Floyd Mayweather… The ONLY results that matter and are worth discussing happen in the ring… Pac Man dusted Cotto… It happens!Posted September 12, 2013 1:58 pm
AGAIN Canelo himself says that the "1.5 pounds won't make a difference" so who KNOWS himself better the fighter or those outside the scenario? I don't give credit for any discussions of guys shaving off weight its part of the sport and if you choose to fight at a contracted weight you gotta deal with the outcome…. Guys lose because they get punched in the face TOO MUCH, Dawson called out Ward at 168, he said he had NO issues getting down there because he had fought there before, he was quiet for a YEAR after the fight then started making excuses during the lead up to the Adonis Stevenson fight… Sorry I don't give any credence to "making weight" its no different to me than a guy saying "I didn't train hard" "I overlooked him" or "I was distracted" I love Roy Jones and when Tarver caught him I did not get swayed by ohhhhhhh he dropped 25 pounds and destroyed his body and Jones was WAY older than Canelo and plenty older than Dawson shaving off FAR more than Ruiz… I cannot be swayed on these points in the slightest but I encourage you to keep trying!! Canelo himself says he is ready for Battle but you are ALREADY writing him off and offering and excuse for his impending loss without seeing the fight ???????HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MAYWEATHERS GREATNESS AFFIRMED YET AGAIN!!Posted September 12, 2013 1:56 pm
Bears, you can try and HOLD Mayweathers absences from the ring against him but they really become a FEATHER in his cap… He defeated the #2 fighter P4P in the World coming off a 21 month layoff…(Marquez) who YEARS later went on to in the eyes of MANY defeat Pacquiao in their 3rd fight and destroy him in their 4th….Mayweather had JAIL hanging over his head but he is SOOOOOOOO mentally strong he beat 3 division future HOF Champion Miguel Cotto via UD in a well contested fight… Ring Rust should FAVOR his opponenents But Floyd Mayweather has proven IMMUNE… The fact that he is FACING Alvarez after such a short period of time means ONE thing… Saul is gonna take a REALLY bad beating because hes gonna fight SHARPER version of FMJ…. Its a SADDDDDDDDDD day for a BUM fight fan like yourself…Anonymous mentions Oscars, layoffs….Floyd took them too and within minutes reestablished himself at the #1 fighter in the sport… Oscar the belts at 154 he was a 10 time World Champion in 6 weight classes and fought a ridiculous schedule of talent… FMJ fought him for the BELTS spotted him plenty of poundage and got the win…And thus the Mayweather train ROLLS ON ESPN, RING MAG, and all other credible bodies rank ONE man as Numero Uno and his name is Floyd Mayweather Jr!! HOLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAA!!!Posted September 12, 2013 1:49 pm
No, you're saying whatever you can to big up your boys regardless if it's steeped in truth or not. Your opinion is the only thing that's completely meaningless here. You keep saying the weight makes no difference, you even say 7 pounds makes no difference, but no one agrees with you. Canelo's stamina is a known weakness and the reason why that is is because he already struggles like crazy to make the weight. He's a massive 154 pounder, those additional 2 pounds are going to make a massive difference.
But you know better than these guys right? Well let's see you credentials then?
Show me your Boxrec record then? I'll be back later to see your non-existent CV
"De La Hoya – Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto – he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto – 'give him to me at 154.' Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.
"I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn't the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn't hydrated"
And Leonard Ellerbe on Cotto vs Pacquiao:
"He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring," Ellerbe said. "The casual fan doesn't know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know."
"Problem is Floyd doesn't get tired so, and we've seen Canelo fade in fights before. And having to take off that extra two pounds is, you know, people think it's just two pounds but when you already struggling to make '54 that extra two pounds is a lot. And he's going to put on a lot of weight but he's not going to be able to put on the right kind of weight just in 24 hours. So he's gonna feel the fact that he's, you know,stripped his body, cutting his muscles to get to 152"
Andre WardPosted September 12, 2013 1:45 pm
Anonymous, Adamek was NOT WEIGHT DRAINED in the slightests he decided to MOVE up the scales and chase bigger fish… Adamek actually put Chad on his rear but alas Chad was too fast and too good at that point for the stiffer Adamek to handle… Adamek has had is struggles with good boxers ie even a 1 handed Chambers who like himself is NOT a good HW had Adamek in deeper water than he perceptibly should have been and most think he was gifted against Cunningham…. Adamek was a TERRIFIC win for Dawson, Tomas has been a TOUGH customer that ONLY a GROSSLY oversized Vitali Klitschko was able to stop at HW…. We all know that Adamek is a battler hence his moniker "Goral" but against the smoother boxing Dawson his toughness was negated… The guy was ranked # 3 at HW at one point (terrible division) but still worth noting since Dawson took him at 175… Your tactics are EASILY noted and thwarted…. "Everyone is either OLD or Weight drained" when YOU don't like the fighter…THANKFULLY I have the Boxing World on my side and they decree Floyd Mayweather #1 Andre Ward #2 and Chad Dawson a 2 time lineal LHW Champion who was TKOED for the first time in his career by Andre SOG Ward the man who laid WASTE to the 168 pound division… Rocking guys like Froch and Kessler like they did NOT even matter….. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!! "I woke up in a NEW BUGATTI! "Posted September 12, 2013 1:42 pm
if floyds so badass tell me his top three badass opponents he beat? just opponents that make u say " yeah this guys a badass" couple that with all the good fighters he could have faced if he didnt duck them, the fighters he faced at the "oppurtune times", and the fake retirement when his division lit up like. christmas tree. see all the oppurtunities have been there for floyd to be percieved as badass. pac, martinez, williams, now even ggg. canelo is a great fight for floyd and for me his first great matchup. your crazy of u think floyds gonna dominate canelo. or if u think floyd is significantly faster. also what i love about canelo is how deceptive he is with his punches from his stance. where he's throwing head or body and his combos. im really excited about this fight and its because of caneloPosted September 12, 2013 1:40 pm
What has this got to do with the Kllitschkos? You're trying to deflect away from the fact you've been brutally owned by attacking other fighters, fighters I'm not even a fan of.
And once again Mayweather fought a PED free Mosley, not the one who beat Margarito and all them other fighters. Why do you think Mayweather refused to fight him unless he underwent additional testing? Talk about dense. Mayweather knew he was PED'd up against Margarito, which is why he insisted on additional testing and why Mosley looked like a completely different fighter against Mayweather. He was totally listless and devoid of energy in that fight without his EPO.Posted September 12, 2013 1:36 pm
Anonymous, I am DEFINITELY saying that the 1.5 pounds are of NO consequence because Canelo HIMSELF just said it on another article.. OF COURSE his tune will change when he loses…He said "I feel strong, I have been down this low before paraphrasing"… He noted that he came in UNDER 154 for his bout against Austin Trout, 153.5 soooo this paltry 1.5 pounds when you have all the resources in the world and will enjoy a fight night advantage of close to 20 pounds are NOTHING worth discussion…. Fact is that Canelo is not even in the ring with a murderous puncher or YOUNG fighter, he is in there with a SPEED DEMON who has a superior boxing brain and is simply gonna dismantle him… BUT this is boxing and he earned his shot by picking up 2 straps, calling out Floyd and bringing enough to the table to get a shot… I KNOW you would rather Floyd be 2 or 3 years older in your mind to level the playing field (increased Old Age) but Mayweather still have enough in the tank to turn back this kid who has the power but not the speed to contend… Bottomline 1.5 pounds NOTHING….Posted September 12, 2013 1:35 pm
Yes Dawson's best win came against a severely weight drained Adamek who weighed in a whopping 24 pounds heavier 4 MONTHS LATER for his next fight. It's not like he was carrying on ounce of flab either. He looked in great shape and obviously he has subsequently now moved up to heavyweight since then, adding a further 24 pounds on top of that, whilst still looking in very good shape. SREDMOND slates all these European and white fighters until one of his boys beats then and then and only then will he try to big them up so that he can use them to inflate his boy's resumes. He's so transparent.
Adamek's form at 175 was dire. He won 2 highly controversial majority decisions that most thought he lost (the first of which was in a vacant title fight) against Paul Briggs who himself had beaten no one of note. The best fighter he'd ever beaten was the Croatian Stipe DrewS, but then again Drews' was only merely average at best. He'd beaten no one of note himself other than an ancient Silvio Branco, whom he won the title of when Branco was 41 years old. The only other half decent fighter Admek had beaten at 175 was the glass jawed German Thomas Ulrich who was knocked out in 6 of his 7 loses. Other than that Adamek had beaten no one at 175. And SREDMOND's trying to big that win up like it was something special?Posted September 12, 2013 1:30 pm
Rome, fighting inside and tying up your opponent when HURT is part of the sport unless you have NEVER seen boxing before.. I KNOW it would do your heart good to see Mayweather fight like an amateur and when hurt keep his chin out so that his opponent can clear his head but thats SIMPLY not what a veteran with his wits about his does… Canelo is gonna be around 18-20 pounds heavier and plenty younger let him try to manhandle Floyd and win the bout… Crying about the REF betrays your lack of manhood and the desire for a 3rd party to over indulge in the bout… Why not call for Floyds opponents to stay at range and try and box him LMAO!! Their only shot is to get TOO close, smother their work and have Floyd outmanuver them… There is NOTHING more disgusting than a guy putting on his panties and weeping about the ref making the action more to his liking… I suppose you were mad Ortiz lost a point for his flying headbutt???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAPosted September 12, 2013 1:29 pm
Sugar Ray Leonard tried to "Hand Pick" a YOUNG Terry Norris because the perception was that Norris had a GLASS JAW after Julian Jackson flatblasted him and what happened? NORRIS was WAYYYYYY to fast, sharp and YOUNG for Ray and totally embarassed him… Why is Mayweather immune to this fate if the is REALLY just a Social Media construct with NO talent??? Unlike Norris, Canelo has NOT lost and certainly not been KOed… Ray is a naturally BIGGER fighter than Floyd when he was at 154 having fought Lalonde at around 168 or so if I recall…Based on your assertions about Floyd being an average or very overrated fighter should you NOT be confident that Canelo can get the job done against a guy who is a SMALL WW…. Ortiz who came up from 140 outweighed Mayweather by 14 pounds on fight night, Floyd puts on 4 pounds or so from weigh in… Saying "he sucks but NO ONE can beat him in 17 years"… Its just pure jealousy and utter bias! I don't mind entertaining it because it allows me to pound my message and sets the table for a joyous celebration as Mayweather proves ONCE again he is the BEST in the World and one of the BEST to EVER do it….Posted September 12, 2013 1:25 pm
Mosley was HARDLY a "CherryPick" Shane had KOed Antonio Margarito who had NEVER been stopped and was on a winning streak…He pretty much fought a PEAK Cotto to a draw (super close win for Miguel in my eyes) and was ranked #3 in the World… The perception was that Mosley had a SHOT again if a fighter is "OVERRATED" it does NOT take 44 professional fights, 5 weight Classes, 3 Lineal Championships 4 of 5 HOF opponents and 10 Champions in a row to see him lose a bout… MOST of the P4P list dropped bouts to beatable fighters that Mayweather would walkover…Pacquiao 2 absolute nobodies stopped him then Marquez who Mayweather TROUNCED, Floyd would have handled Morales with similar ease…Martinez lost to Margarito via KO, the SAME Margarito who got stopped by Mosley who one fight after was boxed out of relevance by Mayweather… Donaire lost EARLY in his career to NO ONE special, and recently to a guy who despite a very impressive amateur background has NOT had even 15 pro fights… Wladimir Klitschko is the ULTIMATE at proving my point he was stopped 3X by fighters at a level that would NEVER do more than win 1 or 2 rounds off Mayweather… A BUM like Purrity, A Golfer like Sanders and a B- level fighter like Lamon Brewster… So the point is that if Floyd is soooooo overrated why in 17 years has he not been exposed when his fellow P4P guys have all fallen to relatively unimpressive if not utterly weak foes (Klitschko) you have NO intelligent rebuttal to this point… If he is SO average why does it take a special fighter to beat him even at the age of 36 going on 37??????Posted September 12, 2013 1:20 pm
Boxtradam or you may be Shredmond, really dont matter. Floyd is a smart swift fighter who uses armbars or armlocks if you will to his adavatage. He did it to save his life against Shane without a dought and many others, which is really not important. Bottom line Mr Box, If he third man in the ring limits Mayweather's armlocks to a bare minimum, Floyd is in deep trouble. Canelo is not Shane, Canelo hits harder and will finish the job unlike oldman Shane. Mayweather is far from the great Robinson and will never be the 80's hall of famers. Mayweather will always have * by his name for being a puzzzy when it came to pac.Posted September 12, 2013 1:18 pm
Shredmond. You are protecting what your preception of what you want people to believe. There is nothing you can sell me about Floyd. Your point and opinion is Moot. Floyd lost to castillo and from there he got in the ring with Corrales and Hatton who were undeafeated. I will give your Corrales and Hatton was way to small for anyone and was overrated. I know you preach You know something bout the sport but your views are noted with closed eyes and bias input. Im not a Canelo or Mayweather fan by far, but dont sell be garbadge about floyd being something great. He is a great business man, He is great at keeping a winning record going, not by skill but by politics. Take time to understand that Floyd will never be the greatness of the 80's greats and never be half of what Robinson was. Win or Lose saturday, Floyd will always be the funny clown who needs attention and noted for all time for RUNNING FROM THE PACMAN , WHOM im not a fan of either.Posted September 12, 2013 1:12 pm
Tony, I have heard ALL these EXCUSES before, when a fighter prevails who other guys don't like… Reality is that Chad Dawson was a smooth boxing Southpaw who was on top of the division for YEARS and was lineal Champion… As for Hopkins he is an enigma that has been winning for 20 years between MW and LHW, it does NOT take a historically GREAT fighter to beat a 46 or 48 year old, it takes a HISTORICALLY GREAT 46 or 48 year old to beat STRONG, TALENTED, ATHLETIC, YOUNG Champs in their 20's when you are NOT at your peak anymore… Such is the legacy of Bhop…. Ward did not beat Dawson via close S/D he put him down, beat him up, and made him QUIT…An AWESOME achievment which is part of the reason he is the #2 fighter in the Sport behind the ATG Floyd Mayweather JR…. This is GOSPEL….Posted September 12, 2013 1:11 pm
SRedmond – The LightHeavy division has been weak FOR YEARS too, hence BHOP still being able to win big fights at the weight, blown up and ageing SuperMid Calzaghe being able to walk to the top of the division, a beaten Super Mid retread like Pascal winning titles, and old guys like Glen Johnson, Tarver and Clinton woods winning straps when they were old and faded. Dawson was never anything special, beaten by Pascal and Stevenson, his best win was against a weight drained Adamek. Ward making an ordinary fighter drop down and fight him just shows how Ward likes it; all advantages must be in his favor before the first bell rings, guy is a coward and doesnt play with a straight bat.Posted September 12, 2013 12:28 pm
bears this has nothing to do with how smart I am, it has far more to do with how dense SREDMOND is.Posted September 12, 2013 10:02 am
De La Hoya was a part time fighter when he fought Mayweather. He'd only fought twice in 3 years going into that fight and he should've been 5/2 in his last 7 fights, that's atrocious by his standards and it clearly illustrates beyond any reasonable doubt he was completely washed up–the Mosley fight was close but I scored it to Shane by a point–we'll come back to that later as I wanted you to bring his PED use up–Beating a completely shot punch bag Mayorga who Trinidad the last remaining remnants of stuffing out of and a journeyman nobody Stevie Forbes means nothing. De La Hoya was done. He had one foot in the retirement door and the other in his coke dealer's.
And I know you're not the brightest bulb in the socket but why are you asking me questions I've already answered? The reason De La Hoya was able to do so well against Mayweather has more to do with how overrated and poor Mayweather is than it does with the state De La Hoya was in at the time. Mayweather is by far the most overrated fighter in the world. People like you keep trying to big up his competition all the time, telling us these wins over shot fighters he ducked when they were in their prime and C grade opponents who never would've even been contenders in a half decent era are significant. They're not significant. His competition has been awful for the most part.
Coming back to Mosley's PED abuse, at least you agree that Mayweather's cherry-pick win over an ancient Mosley was even more meaningless what with it coming against a completely PED free Mosley too. And given that that PED free ancient Mosley came very within a whisker of knocking Mayweather it only further solidifies my argument about how overrated Mayweather is. The Mosley Mayweather fought was a mere shadow of the prime PED'd up Mosley.
And I recall seeing you on another article the other day saying that you don't believe in making excuses for fighter's losses, but strangely enough that's all you've done here with regards to the 5 of of De La Hoya's last 7 fights. It's not difficult to expose the gaping flaws and holes in your opponent's argument when they're as dim as you are. You claim Mayweather and Ward are the greatest things since sliced bread in one breath and then accuse them of being completely clueless in another. That you're far more qualified to speak on the debilitating effects of weight cutting than they are. And you expect people to take you seriously? You say that losing those extra 2 pounds is completely meaning less for a huge 154 pounder who already struggles to get down to the weight but nobody who knows what they're talking about agrees with you, including the fighters you keep telling us are so great. And even worse, you then try to convince us that a fighter having to shed 7 pounds to drop down to a weight he hasn't fought at in near 7 years is completely meaningless too, even though, again, the fighters you're bigging up say 2 pounds is a huge deal. I know you're incredibly dense but even you must realize how badly I've owned you and made you look here?Posted September 12, 2013 10:01 am
I feel I must apologize….I've summoned the devil with my post
Come back SREDMONDPosted September 12, 2013 8:53 am
Rome, you don't know boxing Floyd never "holds all night" he lives to fight at range where his faster hands punish and discourage his opponents offense..If they try to bully he can tie them up or work hard on the inside while remaining elusive… I Know I Know, you want Mayweather to become a dumb fighter and start recklessly trading so that his opponents have a better chance of landing "the Big Punch" we'll that's NOT gonna happen the dudes too smart for that… He's gonna time Canelo, keep him from setting to punch the outbox him masterfully…It's his young opponents job to close off the ring and land his shots (Good luck with that LMAO) bottomline is you will be watching Rome.. Praying for a Mayweather loss but its not his time quite yet… Alvarez is gonna bleedPosted September 12, 2013 7:02 am
Assyrian God, you can be revisionist on Dawson but he was considered the BEST LHW for YEARS and was a smooth boxer… All this power has not resulted in a "PUNCHER" being #1 or #2 and we have seen plenty punchers boxed silly… Dawson defeated Adamek, and despite him not being a very aggressive guy he accomplished plenty… He had NEVER been stopped or outspeed in the manner he was against Ward who dismantled him quick and did not let up till the KO…Pretending Dawson was not an important boxer is just ridiculous… Now he's looking pretty much done after Ward smashed him first then Stevenson caught him first round..Mayweather and plenty of experts thought he was gonna be the future at one point… PS Canelos losing…Posted September 12, 2013 6:56 am
Bears, if you are SOOO down on Floyds foes why do you respect Canelo so much? Because he defeated one World Class fighter? I think he's a strong, very good, young fighter who got in position for a chance but do you REALLY think his credentials are superior to Oscars, Mayweathers or Mosleys, Marquez?? and if you think sooooooo highly of his accomplishments relative to Mayweathers, how much credit will you give Floyd for defeating him? You can't have it BOTH ways ie "Canelos a beast etc" but if Floyd wins I'm gonna give him 0000 cred??? This is typical of hour fragmented agenda driven thinking… Floyd's about to be lineal Champ in another weight class matching PAC as the only guys to do it in 4 divisions… Again I know concrete accomplishments don't matter to a neophyte but real fans understand the significance…Posted September 12, 2013 6:50 am
Yeah Bears winning titles means something in the sport… Especially when they are on the waist of a Hall of Fame fighter like ODH… This is NOT the Klitschkos who's competition is SOOOO terrible that they have been evicted from North America… Wlads a fine fighter but he has fought 2, 40 year olds (one recycled) the other a Cruiser who David Haye blasted.. His other 2 opponents included a sparring partner (Pianeta) and Wach both of whom came outnof nowhere absent World ranking… Floyd's last several fights included ALL Champions, HOFERS like Mosley, ODH, Cotto, Marquez and a multi-weight Champ like Guerrero… Of course you wanna ignore credentials because the opponents of your favorite fighters (The Klits) have none…Posted September 12, 2013 6:42 am
Assyrian God, Ward already abused the 2 beat at 168 when he was just coming up your rant is weak "selfish" you sound like he banged your sister and didn't leave you any… C'mon man this is boxing grab your balls..Posted September 12, 2013 6:35 am
Ward ducking GGG? How's that when Golovkin fights at 160 and during the special "2 Days with Gennady Golovkin" he sat across the table from Ward, called SOG a Great Champion and basically said he is not looking in that direction at this point… Besides Golovkin went on record and said his dream bout like EVERYONE'S is Floyd Mayweather… Golovkin is scant on quality experience hIs résumé does NOT even begin to rank with Carl Frochs who Ward easily handled… I'd love to see GGG come up to 168 and get boxed mindless… He's another puncher that would not be able to deal with a slick boxer… Why because he laid out Macklin??? Get real Macklin has been LOSING… I would like to see GGG even handle Martin Murray or Chavez Jr…Posted September 12, 2013 6:24 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
I like Ward, but if he's as great as SREDMOND/Public Enema/Supreme Clown claims than he should prove it by stop ducking 3G. Why not fight 3G at a 164lbs catch-weight??? But even though 3G is a small MW who can make 154lbs, he's not a little b*tch like FMJ, so doesn't need to demand a catch-weight. He'll fight Ward at 168lbs and still destroy him. Guaranteed.
Ward has never fought anyone with that combination of elite skill, granite chin and brutal KO power in both hands. 3G will smash both FMJ and Ward and you can take that to the bank. That's why both FMJ and Ward have been ducking 3G for close to two years and will probably never man-up to fight him.Posted September 12, 2013 4:54 am
IF running around with your head cut off and holding gets you the WIN then Canelo should learn how to DO it TOO.Posted September 12, 2013 1:47 am
Now that we got Andre Ward out of the way lets talk about Canelo vs Maytweather. Canelo by KO or Maweather by decision based on running around with his head cut off and holding all night.Posted September 12, 2013 12:41 am
Shredmond, you must be retired to have time to write all the madness you do. Regarding your comments about Andre Ward^^^ Ward's weak and is king of a weak 168 period. Ward hasnt beat anyone worth a look ,,,,,,,,and Dawon is saw dust at 168. Kessler fight was a fouling mess and Froch is nobody special and thats your record.Posted September 12, 2013 12:39 am
wow even boxtra is pretending like havin a trinket always means something. canelo is the real unifoed champ for beating trout. not a fake trinket in a rigged up fight of past its. dildoPosted September 11, 2013 11:23 pm
De la Hoya and Gatti were SO done that they were still CHAMPS in the Sport and Floyd dethroned them. IF that's the case then Canelo is done TOO.Posted September 11, 2013 10:37 pm
Wards stoppage win of Dawson was SUPER meaningful and it solidified him as the second best fighter in the sport a position he STILL HOLDS…Chad Dawson had never been stopped in his life and was the Lineal LHW Champion.. He stepped to the wrong dude in Ward and got destroyed that was easily one of the beat outings of Wards career dominating a then EXCELLENT fighter…Knocking off Kessler when Ward was still a Green fighter was also incredible, Carl Froch had NO chance so even with a Bad hand that was just easy work…Andre Ward is an utter beast and the future of boxing we know Canelos 0 is gone after Saturday along with half his face..Posted September 11, 2013 9:37 pm
sredmond rising off the canvas with drool spilling from his mouth befins to regurgitate the exact same swill he was spewing prior to being KTFO east side style. sredmond appears to still be dazed by anonymous ko blow son!!!!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:32 pm
Everyone knows Oscar got robbed during that last fight with a juiced (proven) BALCO Mosley, just like he got the shaft against Felix Trinidad… If Oscar was such a spent force why was he the ONLY guy to win a card from Floyd in 17 years? Why did he stay in the fight for 7 rounds? Man please and he was at 154 where he had been fighting for YEARS AND Mayweather had NEVER fought… Floyd fought Oscar for 25 mill he had been calling out De La Hoya for years it's the biggest fight in history… It was Oscar who finally relented..Posted September 11, 2013 9:30 pm
Floyd takes LONG layoffs all the time I'm not impressed with ODH having a sabbatical… Besides his loss to Hopkins at 158 was a given… Oscar was NOT a MW and Hops was a BIG MW who later went to 175 at the age of 41 and won the LHW title against 3-1 odds… Floyd had NEVER fought at 154 before and came to the ring at at 150 against ODH who rehydrated to the 160's… It was a chess match between two HOF fighters, FMJs defense and more accurate punching won him the bout as is custom with Mayweather… Where are we today? Oscars done, Pacquiaos knocked out, the Klits are facing BUMS getting 000000 respect in the US, and Floyd Mayweather is STILL UNDEFEATED, HIGHEST PAID ATHLETE ON THE PLANET, and still breaking records… GREATNESSSSSSS!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:26 pm
Of course Gatti fought only a few times after Floyd… Mayweather destroyed him besides Gatti NEVER looked good above 140 pounds where he and Floyd fought losing to the likes of Baldomir and Gomez via stoppage.. Floyd broke his ass when. He was Champ at 140 NOT 7 pounds north or 2 fights later… !!!!! TruthPosted September 11, 2013 9:17 pm
sredmond bas to chNge subject he got owned so bad!!!! cant even stay on the MATERIAL. true east side KNOCKOUT!!!! good show!!!!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:16 pm
sredmond got OWNED!!!!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:15 pm
wow! awesome posts this dude just ktfo sredmond EAST SIDE STYLE! damn ! whoever anonymous is, is a badassPosted September 11, 2013 9:09 pm
HaHaHaHa "Ward get smashed by Golovkin" nothing could be funnier GGG is a strong fighter but he's EASY work for a guy with Wards skillset… He would be nullified and lose a VERY wide decision that's why his "Big Dream" is to face a WW fighter like Mayweather as opposed to the guys at 168, Ward especially this is NOT Macklin who had lost 2 of 3 including a stoppage to Martinez… Get real!!!!!Posted September 11, 2013 9:06 pm
5/2 and those 2 wins were against a bum and completely shot fighter.Posted September 11, 2013 8:29 pm
De La Hoya and Gatti were both done when Mayweather fought them. After beating a shot Mayorga– A FULL YEAR BEFORE HE FOUGHT MAYWEATHER–De La Hoya only fought two more times–winning a UD over journeyman Stevie Forbes and getting battered and sent into retirement by Pacquiao. And he was a coke addict by the time he fought Mayweather. Gatti only fought 3 more times after losing to Mayweather, losing 2 of them by knockout to weak hitters. They had nothing left when Mayweather fought them. That's the ONLY reason why he bothered fighting them.
De La Hoya's last 7 fights
Mosley lose UD
De La Hoya fought 7 times in over 5 and a half years and should've been 5/2. A completely meaningless win.Posted September 11, 2013 8:27 pm
Where's Ernie???Posted September 11, 2013 6:06 pm
canelos gonna be rippin them shots! floyds gonna think he's gettin hit bu the juggernaut!Posted September 11, 2013 5:54 pm
The Truth
There is only one Floyd Mayweather and he's almost finished, so you better ride his nutsack as hard as you can while you still can. Whites and Latinos now dominate boxing and MMA and that's not going to change anytime soon.
Hopkins will get smashed out by Kovalev and Ward will get destroyed by Golovkin. Bradley and Broner are over-hyped jokes who will never be great.
RIP Afro-American boxing! You'll be missed by a very small segment of the population who make up the lowest dredges of society. It's time for them to focus on pro basketball instead of combat sports — where real men compete.Posted September 11, 2013 5:40 pm
canelo is like the most entertaining fighter right now. inbet he's the next CASH COW to $$$$$$Posted September 11, 2013 5:37 pm
this is boxing not worlds shrewdest athelete business man. this web site isnt about money its about boxing. you seem to veer off topicPosted September 11, 2013 4:23 pm
Ward did NOT make Dawson do ANYTHING, Dawson choose to call him out and fight in his division… Why should Ward come up to Dawsons when Dawson called him out? AGAIN it does NOT matter if you showup to fight then the results are VALID…. Dawson lost because Wards a BETTER fighter he had him down EARLY when a fighter is at his freshest… Andre was too fast, too strong and too mean for the mentally weaker Dawson… Ward is a BEAST and when healthy NONE of those guys at 168 have a chance, hence him being unbeaten… And Froch and Kessler becoming his whipping boys and eternally bitter for their humiliations…Posted September 11, 2013 4:21 pm
If Canelo was NOT fighting Floyd or Manny Pacquiao who would he do a PPV against at 154… Please tell me the names so I can laugh??? Sergio is a 160 pounder and the ONLY PPV he did was against Chavez Jr where young Julio made MORE $$$$ than Sergio… AGAIN I am pissing in your face with HARD facts… Canelo needs to win or impress to become a bankable PPV star believe me Showtime would love to have a young guy who can sell… As of today EVERYONE is on Mayweather sack including MW's like Sergio and GGG who cannot sell a table cloth on PPV…Posted September 11, 2013 4:18 pm
Canelo vs Floyd is a BIGGER fight than Guerrero, but Floyd can do 1 million buys if I was in the ring with him that has been proven against Ortiz 1.25 mill Guerrero 1.1 mill and Rafaels numbers came from some "unknown source" and they were refuted by Showtime… We all know this is a BIG fight… Without Floyd Canelo could NOT even sell Austin Trout on PPV and that was a Unification between unbeaten fighters… He had to do an arena in Texas with CHEAP seats…Arguing that Canelo is a Bigger Star than Floyd Maywether is just plain CRAZY and NOT supported by anything except that voice in your head that keeps you bent over like a jailhouse SLUT…Posted September 11, 2013 4:15 pm
Bears, Anonymous did NOT explain ANYTHING he took a quote and tried to sell it as proof positive…But this does NOT matter anyway YOU have been saying Canelo is gonna whip Floyds ass and you have known the terms of the bout for months as has Canelo… SOOOOOOO are you changing your story already???? Please do so I can rip your face off like a crazed DobermanPosted September 11, 2013 4:12 pm
canelo is the reason for the bigher numbers. guerrero didnt sell anywhere near what was needed. remember dan rafaels sources? so floyds not the whole draw here canelo is gonna be bringing a HUGE draw in fact there will even be more canelo fans at the fight. lolPosted September 11, 2013 4:12 pm
Canelo is the BIGGEST PPV star that NEVER headlined a PPV????? Ridiculous… Even Floyd had done 300k and 400k PPVs before he fought Oscar who was the Cash Cow at that time and ultimately Floyd took over after beating him… Same with Manny, Canelo never headlined even a SMALL PPV in his life…Posted September 11, 2013 4:10 pm
HaHaHaHa ANOTHER ridiculous comment by Bears….If Canelo brings in ALL the money then why did he NOT sell the Trout fight and why has he NEVER headlined a PPV? Why is he getting in the neighborhood of 10 mill and Floyd 41.5? Why did Floyd bank 40 mill with Cotto and Ortiz because the PPV revenue was high? Why a 32 mill guarantee with Guerrero? Why does EVERY fighter from 160-135 wanna face Floyd? Why did Floyd make 85 million PURELY from boxing in one year and Canelo NEVER fought him? Because he is the BIGGEST draw in boxing… Canelo is a relative NOBODY who has NOT sold a PPV card on his own yet… If he won that could all change, that that AIN'T happening!Posted September 11, 2013 4:07 pm
There is PLENTY to ressurect and he WON'T be this year after NOT fighting due to his TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) Pac Man is SEVERAL rungs below Mayweather NOW and his career is on the line… Like most we have NOT seen his hand raised in 2 fights the last one he was DESTROYED…. He got robbed against Bradley but the truth is that Manny has not impressed in a LONG time… His 3rd fight against Marquez was a STRUGGLE and the result controversial…If he loses of looks bad against Rios its probably over… MEANWHILE on Planet Mayweather Floyd is earning the BIGGEST guaranteed purse in boxing history 41.5 mill and just did the BIGGEST live gate and this is a guaranteed PPV blockbuster… I love Manny but his star has FALLEN it remains to be seen if he can pick himself up off the canvas after needing smelling salts at the hands of one of Floyds EASIEST opponents!Posted September 11, 2013 4:00 pm
manny pac is the second highest paid athelete in the world. theres nothing to "resurrect". i like your fight forecast sredmond claiming oscar will have done better than canelo. lol@uPosted September 11, 2013 3:54 pm
we got an sredmond gem saved folks. sredmomd forecast below "oscar did better agaisnt floyd than canelo will do" short response to sredmond. no he wont, not even close. canelos gonna hurt floyd and even if floyd does win uou may end up hearing him discuss canelo hurting him in the post fight interviewPosted September 11, 2013 3:52 pm
SURRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE Bears and the Tooth Fairy is gonna come and save Canelo! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted September 11, 2013 3:48 pm
Bears, you CANNOT even spell "deteriorated" correctly so stay in your lane… Floyd is NOT at his absolute peak and has not been for YEARS but 85% of Floyd Mayweather still=Best in the World….Vitali LOST to a NON Peak Lewis so whats your point?? Floyd and Oscar were in their 30's and the reality is that ODH did BETTER than Canelo is gonna do so you will be DOWN YET ANOTHER argument…. YOU simply cannot prevail with me….! The Public has spoken FMJ is the TOP MAN in the sport selling 19.5 mill at the gate while Pac Man is trying to resurrect his career against a tough punching bag like Rios… I love Manny but he distant to FMJ as of today….Posted September 11, 2013 3:47 pm
yeah floyds pushing drug tests after he has completed his own cycle and comes out after a year or two to fight. the guy below describes this perfectly and i want to thank him for shedding light on this. ive been reading anout these claims for a couple weeks now. obviously something to it.Posted September 11, 2013 3:45 pm
oscar compared to his peak was washed up when he facedayweather. essentially a very deteriated oscar. thats my opinion of it. the worth of his post retired multi loss scalp is debatable. however, i like oscar im just being honestPosted September 11, 2013 3:42 pm
Yeah, Sure Bears Floyd is now a drug user? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the ONLY guy in the sport to FORCE mandatory drug testing but hes using PED's… Hilarious MEANWHILE you mention Klitschko who is an ADMITTED drug cheat who TESTED POSITIVE and was kicked off the Ukranian Olympic Team in 1996…. Bears do you know that Floyd was also a member of Al Qaeda and worked closely with Bin Laden… Another ESB poster said it so it must be true!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!Posted September 11, 2013 3:41 pm
Bears, you can try and play around but you contradict yourself… Oscar was NOT "Washed Up" when he fought Floyd or he would have NEVER kept the fight close for several rounds and display some of the best EARLY fight defense I saw against Mayweather… BUT Floyd adjusts and eventually gets his man… Floyd will be 90 and you will still be talking shiiittt about his fresh opponents being sent to slaughter… Besides you gave him PROPS after Cotto do you think I forgot this? of don't have that info archived? I ruin DOGS like you BEARS and you will not be the exception…Posted September 11, 2013 3:38 pm
vitaly had a real retirement of four years. floyd has fake retired and fought once a year. now we see he's been cycling peds as pointed out below. makes sense. floyd fake retired, ducked, cherry picked, cycled peds and tested positive. then shut the hell up about pac and peds when confronted. floyd doesnt crack my top ten. but thats just me. he's too much biatch and not enough warrior. i cant have a biatch in my top ten. not my style. not in my stable.Posted September 11, 2013 3:36 pm
sredmond trying to equate oscar and floyds age as though were all robots and have the same expiration date. lol @ sredmond the secerly learning disabled and dyslexic resident east side joke of a poster.Posted September 11, 2013 3:32 pm
Bears, retirements in boxing are like pearls on a necklace… Floyd has retired and gone on sabbatical how many times? Klitschko retired for 4 years whats your point? Reality is that Oscar and he is a 6 weight Champion and fought the toughest schedule of perhaps any boxer of the last generation… Trinidad, Mosley 2x, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Vargas, Chavez, Whitaker, Oba Carr and Hopkins… ALL that experience is what allowed him to compete with Mayweather during the early rounds… But AGAIN you want to discount Oscar because Floyd beat him at 154 but you were pumped when Paccquiao beat him AFTER Floyd at 147….You are my favorite clown and your predictable train of thought allows me to nullify your BEST ideas with EASE…I will ALWAYS be your Daddy Bears…Posted September 11, 2013 3:31 pm
Dawson called out Ward at 168 and got DESTROYED that fight is SUPER relevant and part of the REASON that Ward is rated #2 in the world… AGAIN this level of Greatness cannot be denied and it has been recognized and proven as Ward turned Champs and World Class fighters like Froch and Kessler into serial WHINERS fighting for the #2 slot…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Posted September 11, 2013 3:15 pm
wow if holding a title meant something in boxing that would be cool but we point to countless examples of picking up a trinket means nothing or next to nothing in terms of relevance. all one has to do is watch the fights see who their fighting see oscar was already RETIRED. or does post retired mean "peak oscar" to sredmond. lol what a joke. talking up the extremely warn gatti? where do u think he resides on the atg list? he doesnt. but i love gatti none the less but a feather in floyds cap? hardly no more than baldomir is. your perspective is garbage sredmond.Posted September 11, 2013 3:15 pm
REM we KNOW you will BLAME Mayweather for the problem in Syria, he will be 45 and you will still say his 27 year old opponents lack experience and that he is "cherrypicking" you are NOT gonna dethrone Floyd Mayweather politically he's gonna have to be defeated in the RING which has NOT happened in 17 years and across 5 weight classes unlike the Great Pacquiao who booked 4 legit losses a couple of draws and 3 losses by KO… The ONLY fighter that stopped Pac Man of note was the Great Marquez who Floyd treated like a disrespectful teenager… Mayweather cannot be overtaken by Canelo he is STILL too good even at 36 going on 37…. Expect to see the numbers 45-0!!!! MAY DAY ALL DAY!Posted September 11, 2013 3:14 pm
Oscar AND Gatti were BOTH Champions when Floyd took it to them so how does that equate to "Washed Up"….. Oscar fought a VERY solid bout and was competitive till the latter rounds when Floyd took over for real… AGAIN Bears I KNOW you have VERY limited understanding of boxing… Oscar was YOUNGER than Floyd is NOW but you are NOT calling FMJ washed up…. Why is that? You simply label guys according to what suits your inept arguments… Was Oscar the "best in the World" NO but he was the 154 pound beltholder, a 6 weight Champ and it was FMJ's FIRST fight at 154 pounds a weight that he has STILL NEVER made… If you guys were smarter you would realize that all Floyds toughest moments as of late have come against VETERAN fighters ie Oscar, Cotto and Shane (round 2) because they guys have experience against more elite competiion… A young guy like Canelo has to use his SIZE, STRENGTH and YOUTH to prevail… We KNOW this is NOT gonna happen but it's his ONLY shot…Posted September 11, 2013 3:03 pm
Ward IS an Undefeated Fighter
Ward TKOed Dawson which had NEVER been done before and Chad has fought guys like Adamek who bangs at HW now.
Dawson was the LINEAL HW Champion and absent a loss to Pascal where he banged heads he was 31-1 so he was beating ALOT of people including Tarver, Hopkins, Johnson and Diaconu he was also ranked at one time in the P4P list.
Some of you guys FEELINGS (Like Women) turn your judgement to absolute SHIIIIITTTTT… Dawson was WIDELY considered the BEST LHW for YEARS… Get RealPosted September 11, 2013 2:58 pm
Andre Ward has done a TON in BOXING and BOXING recognizes his accomplishments by ranking him as the #2 P4P fighter in the world after his sweeping the Super 6, stopping favorite Mikkel Kessler in the first leg of the tourney, and EASILY defeating now #2 168 pounder Carl Froch who owns wins over Kessler, Dirrell, Pascal, and Bute… Also the RAPID destruction of then Lineal LHW Champion Chad Dawson was the icing on the cake after Dawson DARED to call him out… Yes Andre Ward is an Olympic Gold Medalist, Ring Champion, Undefeated Super 6 Winner… He has REALLY made it 100% clear who the Boss at 168 is…REAL Boxing fans don't fight the obviousPosted September 11, 2013 2:52 pm
tim D
Andre Ward struts around like he did something in boxing.
Ward never beat a undefeated fighter.
Ward cant KO a corpse on a cold winter day.
Ward was placed against Dawson who cant beat my grandmother at 168.
Ward suxxxxxx
Ward's big picks dont put money on, he placed is thoughts on Donaire beating down RIGO , wrongPosted September 11, 2013 2:32 pm
tim D
Third man will determine the fight.
Mayweather fouls relentlessly, take that away and he is done.Posted September 11, 2013 2:29 pm
stellar posts money may puts his foot OUTSTANDING. sredmond cant even respond. his boy is a juicer. makes for smaller nits to huff!Posted September 11, 2013 2:18 pm
"reason is that floyd is gifted blah blah" resmond quote. reason is he is gifted at cherry picking, ducking, and fake retiring. reason is he hasnt faced the elite. who washed up oscar and gatti? lol @ u. he didnt facethe elite and he was untimely ( or timely in flyds cherry picking) he didnt face pac, martinez, or williams to name a few. sredmond is just a mayweather nuthuffer extordinaire. the reason floyd hasnt lost? i would say its because as i describe. plus pac is smaller than floyd smaller than morales and barrera when he fought them. pac is naturally smaller than floyd and started at a lighter weight and climbed more weight divisions again is a smaller guy.Posted September 11, 2013 2:12 pm
Ward should PICK a fight with GGG not unless he's the next Floyd DUCKWEATHER.Posted September 11, 2013 1:59 pm
So that's why Floyd demanded that Pac had to have his whole training camp in the U.S and the testing had to be done by the U.S.A.D.A ROTF….. Money May puts…. don't waist your breath this is the fanbase that believes Canelo asked for the catchweight ROTF…. Just look at how Floyd feels he can say anything and his fans will run with it.Posted September 11, 2013 1:40 pm
Money May puts his foot in his mouth again
"After Mayweather beat Robert Guerrero in May, he said he wanted to fight again in September – marking the first time since 2007 he will be in the ring twice in a calendar year."
Those bouts of inactivity between fights were obviously down to him cycling those PEDs he's been taking. He's already been caught three times already and had it swept under the carpet. Remember that interview where he ACTED like he didn't know what TRT was? I've not seen a worse piece of acting since Keanu Reeves ruined Bram Stoker's Dracula. Did he honestly expect us to believe that someone who's supposed to spearheading a complete clean up of the sport wouldn't know that that was? bwahahaPosted September 11, 2013 12:30 pm
Money May puts his foot in his mouth again
Floyd Mayweather says his undefeated record has been partly built on the backs of handpicked opponents who didn't always provide the toughest fights but did help him become the world's best paid athlete. "Sometimes they say, 'Well, Floyd Mayweather's opponents was handpicked.' That's a good thing," Mayweather said during a conference call with reporters to hype Saturday's world title fight against Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez."I commend my team … when I sit back and I think about my career, I say 'you know what? I had a cool career. I didn't take any punishment'."If they say these guys were handpicked, they was handpicked to make $40 and $50 and $60 million, then you know what? Keep handpicking them. If they're going to keep paying, keep handpicking them."
Mayweather, who Forbes magazine lists as the world's highest paid athlete, has been criticized for dodging a potential mega fight with Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao.
Mayweather's guaranteed purse for the Alvarez fight is reported to be a record $41 million which would surpass the previous record of $32 million he received for fighting Guerrero.
Organizers are also hoping that this fight will eclipse the 2.44 million record pay-per-view sales and sales of more than $130 million racked up by the Mayweather and Oscar de la Hoya fight in 2007. Mayweather will also get a cut of the pay-per-view money on top of his guaranteed purse.Posted September 11, 2013 12:22 pm
I do give mayweather the edge, and wow is his team smart make Canelo come in 2 pounds drained and Floyd 5 pounds stacked as always he has to have the advantage somehow.Posted September 11, 2013 11:34 am
YEAH CARL KEPT CALLING JOE OUTPosted September 11, 2013 11:18 am
Anonymous.., You're right. The deal with Calzaghe was keeping his "0"
He did that by taking no chances whatever. Even Froch would have been a problemPosted September 11, 2013 10:58 am
great roccoPosted September 11, 2013 10:30 am
Brilliant post Rocco Di Salvatori.Posted September 11, 2013 10:13 am
If Marquez thinks he has a shot why did he decline even discussing a rematch with Mayweather??? He said "everyone saw what happened" Marquez could barely land a punch and 4 fights later a 39 year old Marquez was murdering Manny PacquaioPosted September 11, 2013 10:05 am
"Curtley missing weight is NOT even close to juicing" Get the hell out of here…Canelo has blown the weight as well, that's the first time to my knowledge Floyd came in over AGAIN you're making excuses… Floyd simply outboxed and outquicked Marquez to death!Posted September 11, 2013 10:01 am
Curtley, you don't lose 12-0 in rounds because of 2 pounds you lose 12-0 because the other guy is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better…Mayweather comes to the ring the same weight Maarquez did for the last 2 Pacquaio fights (150 fight night)… Floyd blew weight by a couple pounds that does not account for the boxing lesson he gave Marquez who himself is a Masterboxer.. To this day Marquez does not want a rematch..Posted September 11, 2013 9:57 am
If Canelo comes in at 54 im sure Oscar will pay the fine for him these guys are hell bent on beating Floyd and i think they have everything lined up to do so gameplan, judges Floyds got less than a 50% chance of emerging victorious.Posted September 11, 2013 8:36 am
WARD HASNT DEFEND HIS TITLE IN A long timePosted September 11, 2013 8:13 am
SREDMOND I agree that Floyd toyed with JMM but in my eyes it wasn't a fair playing field as FMJ was so arrogant he didn't even try to make the weight, I hope Canelo does the same against him just to see if he has the balls to go ahead with the fight just like JMM did. Not bothering in the slightest to make weight is as bad as taking PED's or if not worse and Floyd always acts so high and mighty when it comes to juicing. Just for the record I think Floyd would have beaten JMM any time as he is exceptional but would like to have seen if being weight drained could have effected the fight.Posted September 11, 2013 8:07 am
How come when a talented fighter gets ko'd, he is overratted because he doesnt have a great ability to take a punch, but when a fighter is inactive due to injury and has the inability to throw a punch, hes simply injury proned? Injury is injury whether it be a concussion or a torn shoulder, so Andre Wards injuries should be taken into account when talking about his career.Posted September 11, 2013 7:40 am
Ward fought EVERYBODY worth facing at 168 to argue that is simply severe lack of boxing knowledge or pure bias… That tourney had him in with all the relevant players and those guys all faced eachother… Arguing the Froch and Kessler were the next in line at 168 is dumb… This is why Ward is easily one of he most well vetted Champs in his weight class… Smashing Dawson just added to his name..Posted September 11, 2013 6:22 am
Pacquaio is an awesome fighter with an awesome legacy, but his WORST rival, the one who destructively knocked him out, knocked him down and outboxed him for so many rounds over 4 fights was literally EASY work for Floyd Mayweather… Barrera and Morales were Great fighters who would have been WAYYYY to slow for Mayweather… Marquez has proven to be the Greatest with the most staying power and Floyd toyed with him not letting him credibly win a single round…Manny is a Warrior in part because he was always taking shots which is his style, it cost him dearly but alas Floyd Mayweather is soo good he does not have to be reckless… That's why he is P4P #1 and Pacquiao who is younger prays to get by Rios without incident.. Meanwhile Rios is coming off a loss..Posted September 11, 2013 6:18 am
All the Bears should just stop betting against Floyd thus saving themselves a few quids, lol. The main reason some of qthese folks are obsessed with Floyd, is not jealosy but how much they've contributed to Floyd's wealth. Admit it! it sucks, doesn't it.Posted September 11, 2013 5:23 am
Tark, how is it that Joe said he was chasing a unification fight at Super Middle for nearly 10 years, but yet ducked either going to Germany to face Ottke, or having the cojones to step up to Light Heavy and face either Roy Jones Junior, Antonio Tarver or Glen Johnson between winning the vacant title and eventually facing Kessler?
He waited till all these guys were old or past it and in Kessler's case made sure he did not rematch him in Denmark.Posted September 11, 2013 4:15 am
B Red
either way, canelo gets beat up or stopped ya digPosted September 11, 2013 3:58 am
It's a sad day when you're a supposed p4p star and yet the most interesting thing about you is your opinion on other fightersPosted September 11, 2013 3:04 am
it sas so bad u developed the alter ego cor rect a mun do. lol. now remove your head from your rear and strive to really understand boxingPosted September 11, 2013 2:59 am
$$$$i know team canelo put the catchweight out there after team mayweather wouldnt make the fight. lol. anybody that has followed this fight knows that. please box tra knock the bs off. and dont peddle it either. stop gargling the floyd nads so rabidly u peddle falsity. this topic was also covered in all access episode 2 or 3. do u have any issues with views and opinions your struggling to grasp? i dont mind clarifying. im taking the underdog in this like i did in rios vs alvarado 2 and won. remember box tra you know when u started the year off with like double lossesPosted September 11, 2013 2:54 am
Ken you'd better learn more about Boxing. Punches give you points on the scorecards not holding. SO Ward WINS by landing the most effective Punches.Posted September 11, 2013 2:53 am
The Canelo team wanted the Floyd fight badly… They agreed to the catchweight although Floyd fought fullblown 154-pounders before, with NO catchweight… Said he didn't believe in catchweights.
But the weight lured Floyd in … so it was good.Posted September 11, 2013 1:28 am
He sings Barry White songs to them as he hugs and nuzzles them. He smashed Froch in the liver illegally with his erectionPosted September 11, 2013 12:24 am
Andre just holds his fighters for a win. BORINGPosted September 11, 2013 12:10 am
They need to keep that boss-eyed freak off the TV.
He`s just dangerously wrongfaced.
Right thinking people vomit when they see his clammy boatrace.Posted September 10, 2013 11:51 pm
BEARS you'd better learn how to keep UP with Boxing or just sit on the SIDELINES and read posts from those who DO. Its already been revealed that Canelo's team came up with 152. Floyd would even out point Klitscko and he weighs in at 250. SKILLS is more important than SIZE.Posted September 10, 2013 10:41 pm
Ward agrees with ME on that!!Posted September 10, 2013 10:35 pm
Ray Ray
Tark agree…. Calzsaghe beat older Hopkins and jones. Never the less I think the comparison is fair. Rule super middle, fight at home, step up win the light heavy title which will result in no.1 pound 4 pound.. Very similar. U r right about opposition, I also think Ward has and will have a better hit list.Posted September 10, 2013 9:18 pm
Ray Ray.., Calzaghe didn't beat Kessler as comprehensively as a 20-fight Ward did… Nor did he ever face fighters the caliber Ward has faced.Posted September 10, 2013 9:11 pm
Forrest wasn't suffering from left elbow and shoulder deterioration when he fought Mosley the first time… He started to have problems with the rematch camp… It was just full blown when he fought Mayorga.Posted September 10, 2013 9:09 pm
Ray Ray
Ward is a future no.1 future pound 4 pound king, Calzsaghe like career on the way.Posted September 10, 2013 8:56 pm
Ray Ray
Completely agree….it's like Ward and smith read my mind. Still very much looking 4ward 2 this 1 and the post fight excuses and banter on ESB… Long night if Canelo doesn't hurt Floud early.Posted September 10, 2013 8:53 pm
butch the pitbull
did dan ambrose write this article?Posted September 10, 2013 8:01 pm
No one cares what Ward has to say. This is a guy who continues to fake injury so he doesn't need to travel outside his hometown. He explains how Canelo draining himself will affect his performance. That would be like a career light heavy moving down to Super Middle for 1 fight and yet you applauded your own performance beating Dawson after that fight, hypocrite. Get a passport and win overseas and you'll get some respect and might even be able to attract more than 2000 fans to your fights. I'm thinking it wouldn't matter though because you are the most boring fighter ever.Posted September 10, 2013 7:12 pm
not to mention guerrero was bad enough to give the illusion floyd had not deteriated. even floyd and his camp know better. hence the catchweight in hopes of handicapping the young canelo even further. lolPosted September 10, 2013 7:01 pm
canelo is gonna hurt floyd. cotto exposed floyds "condition". guerrero is slow flat footed garbage that canelo wouldve knocked out nasty like. oh and people thinking floyd is way faster than canelo will be surprised. they obviously couldnt tell how fast canelo was and deceptive especially with his uppercuts which he started cracking trout with right from the get in round one.Posted September 10, 2013 6:41 pm
You can't fight an undefeated boxer every fight.. You can't fight a KO artist every fight.. You can't fight an ATG every fight.. So you have to judge boxers on their skills and vulnerabilities to a degree. You can tear anybody's record to shreds … anybody who ever boxed. Maybe not Carlos Monzon's.
Tommy Hearns could punch, but he wasn't a good defender.. His chin didn't match up with Hagler's or Barkley's. He didn't need to fight tough, strong middleweights who could box and punch. Although it's open to debate whether Barkley could box, he was thick shouldered, strong, tough, and he could throw right hands. All those things bothered Tommy.
Duran had a lightweight frame. He gave up 7 inches in height to Hearns.. Duran was able to outbox Barkley, who wasn't tall, was really slow, and was pretty inept..
Duran had no options with Hearns. He was too short to reach him from the outside. He wasn't physically strong enough to attack him. Just a miserable matchup for Roberto … It happens.
Posted September 10, 2013 4:11 pm
It's always good to debate with you, but I am NOT tearing NO DOUBT'S record to shreds, merely letting everyone know the quality and records of his last half dozen opponents, just like you have done on several occasions with other posters.
PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE INFORMED decsions and YOU as a MASTER GAMBLER should know this.
If you bet on a horse or a football game on the form of just 1 performance, I would say that that would be foolhardy at best, reckless a worst, particularly if you are gambling a sizeable sum.
The smart money would be to have inside knowledge (if you are lucky) in this case on the training camps, sparring, diet, making weight, general attitude etc.etc…
But, in our case we won't have any spies in the gym, so we can only go on any outs we have seen and then scrutinise the records and fighters these guys have fought.
I have literally read dozens of posters RIPPING MAYWEATHER'S record to pieces….Well, let's examine the records of TROUT, CANELO, MATTHYSEE and GARCIA….
I know all about SWIFT and The MACHINE, but TROUT I have only seen twice…. Canelo, I have seen since his welterweight days in probably his last eight or nine bouts.
In order to make an informed decision, I truly believe one needs to examine all the evidence at hand…. then, and only then should we make an informed decision/ bet or whatever….
Hope that explains it.
Matching COMMON OPPONENTS can actually be quite deceptive….
VERNON FORREST (RIP) dominated SUGAR SHANE as an amateur and twice as a pro, yet got hammered by and LOST to RICARDO MAYORGA twice, who in turn was KO'D by SUGAR SHANE….
That, is just another example!!!Posted September 10, 2013 5:56 pm
saul to the slaughter
Piece of cake? Duh, of course it's going to be a piece of cake. Everyone knows Mayweather only fights opponents he knows present him with next to no threat. He ducks and avoids all the really worthy ones who stand a chance of beating him. He's the king of the cherry-pick. He either waits for the cherries to be withered and rotten before he picks them, or he picks them before they've had a chance to ripen. He wouldn't go anywhere near Canelo if he was in his prime, just like he didn't with Pacquiao. He's never fought a great fighter when they were in their prime never mind beaten one. Fighting one when they're in their prime is something he's obviously absolutely fundamentally opposed to doing. That would be far too risky for him. His record attests to that.Posted September 10, 2013 5:35 pm
"The extra 2 pounds that Canelo loses will have no affect on if he gets stopped."
Wanna bet?Posted September 10, 2013 5:33 pm
"Losing " 2 extra pounds" is just another PREPACKAGED excuse on the part of guys who are not fans of results that occur in the ring contrary to their desires"
You're an idiot SRedmond. Flaming. If those two pounds don't mean anything why didn't Floyd meet the 144 catchweight limit for his fight with Marquez?
Shut up now while you're ahead, fool.Posted September 10, 2013 5:31 pm
"Hidalgo` if he knocks floyd out then what? are you going to call it luck that he sparked $ May, i doubt it. I don't want to hear any early excuses if floyd blazes canelo,none…nossiir!"
Not at all Malachi. But like I already said, the 152lb. catchweight is a given handicap that can work in Floyd's favor. And yes, like I already said, if the fight was at 154 there's no way Floyd would be KOing Alvarez. So there's no excuses now or later. I'm basing my opinion on what is.Posted September 10, 2013 5:30 pm
Floyd does NOT have to "Stop Canelo" as fans of his we appreciate his masterful boxing executed across 36 minutes leaving his opponents wondering if the was ever there to be hit "Guerrero I was just missing all night" Thats why he is Floyd Mayweather he can stay in range, make you miss, counter and make you pay… When Guerrero was getting sewn up in the dressing room after he had to conclude that Floyd was close enough to lacerate his ass…. Same fate is gonna befall Canelo he is gonna start bleeding and his average defense is going to crumble under the super fast, sharp and accurate right hands of Floyd… Piece of Cake!Posted September 10, 2013 5:07 pm
Accuracy doesn't always equate to KOs. Floyd is the one of the most accurate punchers ever. And when people say Floyd will stop Canelo they are saying because he has stamina issues. That does not mean he will Knock Out Canelo, means he will just stop him. I think he will stop Canelo around the 10th round.Posted September 10, 2013 4:44 pm
Mayweather will be to smooth to fast and last way longer then Canelo. Look for Canelo to start running out of steam and waste to much energy hunting Mayweather during the fight.
Canelo was never going to actually win this fight.Posted September 10, 2013 4:21 pm
You can't fight an undefeated boxer every fight.. You can't fight a KO artist every fight.. You can't fight an ATG every fight.. So you have to judge boxers on their skills and vulnerabilities to a degree. You can tear anybody's record to shreds … anybody who ever boxed. Maybe not Carlos Monzon's.
Tommy Hearns could punch, but he wasn't a good defender.. His chin didn't match up with Hagler's or Barkley's. He didn't need to fight tough, strong middleweights who could box and punch. Although it's open to debate whether Barkley could box, he was thick shouldered, strong, tough, and he could throw right hands. All those things bothered Tommy.
Duran had a lightweight frame. He gave up 7 inches in height to Hearns.. Duran was able to outbox Barkley, who wasn't tall, was really slow, and was pretty inept..
Duran had no options with Hearns. He was too short to reach him from the outside. He wasn't physically strong enough to attack him. Just a miserable matchup for Roberto … It happens.Posted September 10, 2013 4:11 pm
Da UnKnown Comic
The fix is in on this fight. My friend is doing an article and it will appear on this site after the fight.Posted September 10, 2013 4:09 pm
RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ 27-2 /w Win Streak of 4-2
THE ABOVE IS A CLOSER LOOK at AUSTIN NO NOUBT TROUT'S opponents before he faced CANELO ALVAREZ…..
He won a vacant World Title vs RIGOBERTO ALVAREZ who had lost 2 of his previous 6 bouts and made a couple of non-descript defences before beating DELVIN RODRIGUEZ who had a pitiful 3-2 and 1 ledger, before stepping in the deep end vs COTTO, his first major bout in which he excelled……
Of the above he only stopped LoPorto and before this he had his last stoppage win n 2009 vs a guy with a 9-4 ledger…..
Everyone is basing CANELO'S chances on his performance vs Trout and his vs COTTO, but TOMMY HEARNS scored one of the all-time KOs in 2 vs DURAN, who took MARVELOUS MARVIN the entire 15 not so long before…
When it came to fight time Monster MARVIN rolled over my favourite fighter of all-time in 3 of the most brutal rounds in a boxing ring!
I won't base my predictions solely on a common opponent, although it gives us a gauge….
Styles make fights and TROUT and FLOYD are about as similar as chalk and cheese!!!!
ESB I am NOT posting comments too quickly !!!!!!Posted September 10, 2013 3:39 pm
Floyd Mayweather The Catchweight King
"De La Hoya – Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto – he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto – 'give him to me at 154.' Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses.
"I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter because he faced Pacquiao, but Pacquiao caught him at a catch weight. He wasn't the best Miguel Cotto. He was drained. He wasn't hydrated"
"I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day – skills pay the bills…. Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses."
Floyd Mayweather
"He was a dead man walking when he went into the ring," said. "The casual fan doesn't know what difference one or two pounds can make when a fighter is already down to weight. Fighters know."
Leonard Ellerbe
"Problem is Floyd doesn't get tired so, and we've seen Canelo fade in fights before. And having to take off that extra two pounds is, you know, people think it's just two pounds but when you already struggling to make '54 that extra two pounds is a lot. And he's going to put on a lot of weight but he's not going to be able to put on the right kind of weight just in 24 hours. So he's gonna feel the fact that he's, you know,stripped his body, cutting his muscles to get to 152"
Andre WardPosted September 10, 2013 3:36 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk – As I said, I don't believe Floyd will put Canelo to sleep, but he's MORE than capable of busting him and having his corner save him…which is what I think will happen. Canelo's never been hit by someone as sharp and fast as Floyd, he's gonna feel it.Posted September 10, 2013 3:34 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
"NO ONE has the accuracy Floyd possess, ANY true boxing fan knows that precise, fast and accurate punches create knockouts…"
Well, if that's truly the case can you explain why FMJ only has a 59% KO ratio??? Didn't think so, Mr. "true boxing fan."Posted September 10, 2013 2:58 pm
This pundit repeats.., "The thing is Canelo is 23, and yet he fought like a 40+ fighter against Trout."
Hmmm… So, plodding along like an ancient guy old enough to be his own father, he beats a widely respected, big, tall, undefeated, 171-pound, slick southpaw world champion.
Now… consider that Trout gave ATG Miguel Cotto a boxing lesson, winning by a 118-110 unanimous decision … I mean Trout was unmarked and Cotto was all beaten up, so the scores were accurate. The fight was in Madison Square Gardern, which is Cotto's House.
Now—not only did Canelo beat Trout by UD, but none of the 3 American commentators or 3 American newspaper reporters keeping tabs on the score had the American boxer, Trout, beating the Mexican.
I guess the gassed out, red-faced, lead-legged, fatigued, freckle-faced greenhorn kid did OK… If he fought that bad and beat Austin Trout by UD, imagine what he'll do on a GOOD night.Posted September 10, 2013 2:46 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk – Canelo's never been hit by someone as sharp or as fast, NO ONE has the accuracy Floyd possess, ANY true boxing fan knows that precise, fast and accurate punches create knockouts….Canelo CAN get stopped! It might not be a KO, but I'm going with a TKO, too much for the puppy! Remember, Jose Cotto wobbled Canelo and he was a natural 135lber.Posted September 10, 2013 2:42 pm
SREDMOND – BOOM!!!!Posted September 10, 2013 2:39 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Well there's no way in H3LL that Floyd will stop Canelo, so you can stop entertaining that fantasy right now. He's far from a power puncher and hasn't scored a legit KO since 1999.
The ONLY way FMJ wins this fight is by decision. If anybody is going to get stopped here it's going to be Floyd. Real talk.Posted September 10, 2013 2:37 pm
Prof Konje
Boxing Barlow, I agree. If we all ignore it then it may go away. The boxing fans know who the champs are (the real champs) and those belts and titles are confusing and meaningless. Unfortunately I expect that we'll see even more of them in the future.Posted September 10, 2013 2:31 pm
The extra 2 pounds that Canelo loses will have no affect on if he gets stopped. He has always had stamina issues and Floyd is an expert and getting you exhausted physically and mentally. Now if Floyd KOs him, then I would say that would have something to do with the weight issue.Posted September 10, 2013 2:19 pm
when was the last time ward faughtPosted September 10, 2013 2:06 pm
Tomato Can
Again, I'm caught off guard by a fight prediction.Posted September 10, 2013 1:47 pm
Fight Aficionado
Another obv prediction story that didn't need to be written. Of course Ward predicts Floyd wins. It would only warrant a story if he did something unexpected and predicted Canelo wins.Posted September 10, 2013 1:37 pm
Losing " 2 extra pounds" is just another PREPACKAGED excuse on the part of guys who are not fans of results that occur in the ring contrary to their desires… Canelo has committed himself to being an UNUSUALLY LARGE 154 pound fighter, there is NO law stating that he cannot go to 160 or 168 and thus be closer to his fight night weights of 170 plus…So why do he and other boxers endure the rigors of making weight as opposed to fighting near their walk around weight like Floyd???????? SIMPLE ANSWER, its an ADVANTAGE to come in 1 or 2 weight classes above your opponent… Chavez Jr is another guy who picks up a ton then gets in with his opponents… He looked HUGE compared to Martinez and his ability to take the shots and his own bulk had Sergio in DIRE straits during the last round despite Martinez being the FAR more skilled fighter and having a field day for 90% of the bout… Reality is that "making weight is NO different than training or sparring" its part of the sport if you fall short in some area and you lose its because you were NOT up to the task…Hopkins fought ODH at a catchweight and knocked him out when B Hop was something like 39… Canelo is 23 he can handle it, and has done so against all the rest, problem is that Floyd Mayweather cannot be lumped with "all the rest"…..Posted September 10, 2013 1:36 pm
sredmond`cosignedPosted September 10, 2013 1:30 pm
"Andre Ward a waste of talent" another PATENTLY ridiculous statement by an ESB poster… Wards resume is a monument to quality over the past several years as opposed to tuneups and soft touches… The guy is recovering from surgery and looking for a viable opponent he is done stunningly well, hence him being the #2 or #3 P4P fighter in the World while remaining undefeated… Oscar and Ray Leonard barely had 40 fights and look how they (especially Ray) are regarded??? Ward is what 29? Barring injury he's got plenty of time left at the top..Posted September 10, 2013 1:29 pm
Hidalgo` if he knocks floyd out then what? are you going to call it luck that he sparked $ May, i doubt it. I don't want to hear any early excuses if floyd blazes canelo,none…nossiir!Posted September 10, 2013 1:27 pm
Waste of talent Andre Ward is. Imagine if he was around 50 years ago. His lack of activity probably wouldnt even get him near a title.Posted September 10, 2013 1:24 pm
""I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd stops Canelo", that's what I see going down!"
I think that's a reasonable possibility, Titopa. But only because of the extra two pounds Canelo has to lose.Posted September 10, 2013 1:14 pm
Ward is the proven best in his division # 2 pound for pound champ and is just telling the truth about this matter, no need to throw darts at the champ…nosiir!Posted September 10, 2013 1:13 pm
boxing barlow
I thought Froch was the WBA champ? Because thats all Ive read in reports on him since he beat Kessler! All this alphabet title stuff is rubbish I wish writers would just refuse to aknowledge it and then maybe it might go away.Posted September 10, 2013 1:09 pm
Well, that's how I see it too, and now I can't feel bad even if Canelo proves me to be wrong. I am in the best of company with Andre Ward.Posted September 10, 2013 12:56 pm
"I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd stops Canelo", that's what I see going down!Posted September 10, 2013 12:52 pm
shut up ward !Posted September 10, 2013 12:48 pm
Oh wow Andre! What a revelation! LMAO!Posted September 10, 2013 12:45 pm


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Respond to Review of CLOSED: Tao
by Evguy422
Review: Really good place. All the food is vegan. I visited here while on vacation with my husband. We enjoyed the all your can eat buffet for lunch. Both of us were full with two plates. It was very quiet and every time people looked in the people who worked there nicely opened the door to invite them in. Unfortunately, many people seemed to run off when finding the "chicken" and "beef" are made of soy meats. That was sad. But if you like imitation "meats" and such this is a really good place. I was happy to have a number of different "beef" and "chicken" options to choose form mixed with some vegetable dishes. The place has a great location. It's literally right off of Piccadilly Circus.
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