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DaTruth Hurts
Just wait until Cuban Lara Biatch Slaps Canelo around the Ring from post to post like Mayweather did to see all the excuses the resident Chihuahuas like Tumbo will make for why Lara was able to do that to Canelo… LOL it'll be funnyPosted June 11, 2014 10:29 am
DaTruth Hurts
Most if not all of the Sore Loser Rants on these Boards are not from Argentinians.. they're from Sore Losing Chihuahuas like te tumbo, who prayed to their Santa Muerte Saint for Sergio to Beat the Puerto Rican Super Star Cotto… Because it drives them insane when a Puerto Rican gets such Attention and Accolades.. LOL fkers never change..Posted June 11, 2014 10:29 am
Public Enemy
Hecdog – You do realize Paquiao, the Juiced up Version fought a Weight Drained Cotto freshly off of his loss to Mexicos Master of Plaster MargaCheato with those Tijuana Cement loaded Wraps and Cotto had no Trainer for that fight.. yet that hobbled Cotto still lumped up Manny pretty good busting his ear drum and sending paquiao to the Hospital.. I believe Paquiao cancelled his singing engagement the next day.. a properly trained Cotto, not weight drained, Mentally healthy at 154lbs Knockes out Paquiao worse the MarPeds did…Posted June 10, 2014 1:37 pm
DaTruth my friend, Miguel Cotto did a great job beating Martinez, but fighting the legendary Manny Pacquiao would not end well for Cotto. Manny's style of fighting, speed, power and athleticism would be too much. Manny would indeed win his 9th division title, so i prefer to see Cotto against a Canelo. This again would be a tough fight for Cotto. The truth is that Cotto did a great job against a shot Martinez. He was a shell of himself. GGG, Quillin, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Canelo, Porter, Thurman all beat Cotto. Listen, Cotto deserved that 4th title. He is a legend and a quality person, but if he fights any one of these guys, he loses. The Martinez fight was an illusion. What Cotto did was more because of what Martinez didn't have than what Cotto did have. Sometimes that happens in boxing. This type of win can give a fighter false hope.Posted June 10, 2014 2:12 am
Macklin was a very known quantity – points with Sturm in Germany could well have won. Led Martinez going into the championship rounds.
Destroyed in 3 by GGG.
Rosado destroyed by GGG, stretched and arguably a bit robbed vs Quillin etc.
You don`t have to acknowledge them as elite to draw information from the bouts, or indeed their comments afterwards (Macklin confirmed GGG the best he ever faced).
Clearly it IS possible to get ranked above someone without fighting them if you outperform them against other opponents, otherwise MArtinez stays at #2 in MW division now.
So you don`t have to bow down to GGG, and tattoo his face on your buttocks, just accept that he is in all likelihood the best MW on the planet at the moment.Posted June 9, 2014 5:07 pm
Hecdog – You do realize Paquiao fought a Cotto who had just been beaten by Mexicos finest Master of Plaster MargaCheato with his Tijuana Cement Wraps.. and to top that off Cotto was forced to go down to 144lbs where he stated himself that he felt like he was starving.. he also didn't have a real Trainer for that fight.. still he connected to Paquiao lumping him up pretty good, busting his Ear drum sending Paquiao to the Hospital.. not too bad.. lets see if Paquiao will take on a Healthy Cotto at 154lbs who is properly trained.Posted June 9, 2014 1:16 pm
Macklin is nobodies high end MW at this point lets get real he was a solid contender nothing more we all know he has no future as MW Champion and he is NOT proof of GGG's quality relative to the claims of his fans to get that cred he is gonna have to do better than Matthew Macklin…Posted June 9, 2014 10:30 am
American Hero
god bless HecdogPosted June 9, 2014 9:21 am
Miguel Cotto would never fight the legendary Manny Pacquiao because the outcome would be the same. There is no comparison between Martinez and Pacquiao. They are in two different worlds. Cotto did a great job defeating Martinez, but lets not get carried away here and crown Cotto as some super hero that can beat Canelo, Lara, Pacquiao, GGG, Quillin, Porter or Mayweather because he can't and won't. Cotto has been a quality fighter that ducked no one and fought everyone, and he needs to be given credit for being such a warrior and a class person outside the ring, but the reality is he can't beat any of the fighters I mentioned. And he wouldn't even come close to lasting the distance with Manny Pacquiao. trust me on this, Manny is on an entire different level. He's not Sergio Martinez. He's the greatest pure fighter of all time, and if by some chance Miguel Cotto were to fight Manny again, Manny wins his 9th, yes 9th world title in as many divisions. No one beats Manny when he's motivated, no one.Posted June 9, 2014 2:47 am
Roach is always critical of his fighters opponents. Why fight guys who are "washed up" or "cant pull the trigger"Posted June 9, 2014 2:36 am
Hecdog " A big fight would be Cotto vs Manny Pacquiao." @ a catchweight of 146lbs for the middleweight so Pac can have his 9th bogus title hey. Fanboy.Posted June 9, 2014 1:15 am
Ol fart Tark – does GGG have the balls to step in with SOG?Posted June 9, 2014 1:09 am
Squared moron – 3 letters for the overhyped GGG, SOG.Posted June 9, 2014 1:08 am
Another sad day for Pactards
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Dude!!!! I can copy and paste 2. You are making you're self look like a dork. This is a boxing site.Posted June 8, 2014 10:29 pm
Another sad day for Pactards
If Mayweather will fight Pacquiao that Floyd jab will be countered with right cross from Manny the same way with Martinez's right jab countered by a Cotto left cross.
Posted June 8, 2014 6:12 pm
I know your new to the sport. And you're a Pactard. But Floyd aint no Martinez.Posted June 8, 2014 10:27 pm
Remember GGG has never fought a top 5 yet.Posted June 8, 2014 7:48 pm
maybe one seriously interesting fight left in the division for GGG is Quillin. If he dismantles Geale, GGG could maybe take on Cotto. There would be definitely be money to be made. Interesting fight? Sure. Cotto would man up. Cotto would get serious dropped by GGG, but who knows.Posted June 8, 2014 6:44 pm
Public Enemy
Cotto did his part taking out Middleweight Champ Sergio Martinez, Mayweather barely got past 140lb Maidana, now Canelo needs to get past Cuban Lara.. once that's done we can see who has the Balllzzz to take on this version of Cotto… All Cotto has to do is make sure Cinnabum is not allowed to balloon up to 178+lbs come fight night and it'll be another Cotto Major win.Posted June 8, 2014 6:21 pm
If Mayweather will fight Pacquiao that Floyd jab will be countered with right cross from Manny the same way with Martinez's right jab countered by a Cotto left cross.Posted June 8, 2014 6:12 pm
CORRECTAMUNDO alias BOXTRA Look "tough guy", give it the fk up. We expected you to flip once Cotto won. Your "It wasn't me" excuse has gotten so extremely mfK'in old. You're a fraud. You'd surely gain more respect if you STFU!!Posted June 8, 2014 6:08 pm
CORRECTAMUNDO alias BOXTRA Look "tough guy", give it the fk up. We expected you to flip once Cotto won. Your "It wasn't me" excuse has gotten so extremely mfK'in old. You're a fraud. You'd surely gain more respect if you STFU!!Posted June 8, 2014 6:06 pm
Floyd fought most of his career fights at 130… Cotto fought most of his career fghts at 140… Cotto still has a 10 pound pull over Floyd and Floyd won 3 World Titles at 154.
Cotto weighed in at 155 for Martinez… if they can negotiate that as a catch-weight — I'm sure Floyd would go for the middleweight title.
But if Floyd wins the 160 pound title — he's not fighting GGG. GuaranteedPosted June 8, 2014 5:44 pm
Tumbo always the bridesmaid never the bride. Cotto did something the p4p king would never do, take down the middleweight champ. LEGEND COTTOPosted June 8, 2014 5:22 pm
Mike Tyson
There is a rules in boxing you first learn is to keep them up both hand in front go your face boy.
Cotto fought with sublime skill and ring craft he manoeuvred Martinez around the ring so he could land the punches he needed too. He hurt Martinez early because of the speed and sharpness Martinez hasn't fought anyone with the speed and accuracy of Cotto. Cotto's technique and ring intellect are severely underrated he would have beaten any version of Martinez. The Pavlik and first Williams fight were very close encounters it's only the K.O of Williams early that blew him into the stratosphere of boxing stardom he was a very good champion and wasn't at his best last night but he faced a superior fighter who has fought at the highest level for a much longer period of time and someone who is enjoying a Indian summer to his career with the new coach in Freddie and expect him to look very good next time he fights also. I expect him to have his detractors the next time he fights also but lets not forget what a great fighter Cotto has been for a very long time now!!Posted June 8, 2014 4:09 pm
Cotto is a very good fighter. Cotto will get demolished at 154-160 though. You can accept it or live in denial, but this is what's going to happen. He was fortunate to get a broken Martinez. Be serious, the Martinez who fought Williams/Pavlik would have destroyed Cotto. Anyone who says otherwise is living in a dreamworldPosted June 8, 2014 3:59 pm
te tumbo
HIDALGo, are you ready to argue that what we saw was a prime Martinez being dominated and defeated by Cotto last night? after reading your last few posts, it would be a cop-out if you didn't. it could only be considered a great win for Cotto if this was the case. time to take a firm stand and stop skulking between the lines of your analysis. was it a fit, pumped, and prime Martinez we saw last night or Not?Posted June 8, 2014 3:52 pm
te tumbo
"But I think Floyd might fight Marquez again.as he a free agent. So who your picking if they did?" TYSON, please spare me your silly headgames. suffice it to say, that I cited a minor-miracle as the only way that Marquez could defeat Floyd the first time they met and LEVELING Pacquiao* hasn't changed a thing in terms of that matchup.Posted June 8, 2014 3:49 pm
Mike Tyson
That wasn't to you Anonymous below I taught I saw 4 repeat post. Lol…
Mike Tyson
S/hit …lolPosted June 8, 2014 3:40 pm
Mike Tyson
Anonymous, trout and Lara Bradley ,pac ,jmm, Floyd are above Martinez I knew thatso long ago. He has no defense low hands.and he a boxer that has trouble with pressure fighters.Posted June 8, 2014 3:39 pm
Mike Tyson
Tumbo don't worry Floyd can fight cotto, he left GBP, and he not dealing with arum. Cotto is a free agent but he not leaving top rank to fight Floyd that for sure, now. But I think Floyd might fight Marquez again.as he a free agent. So who your picking if they did?Posted June 8, 2014 3:34 pm
Martinez = 40 years old, with leg braces. People are seriously taking this as an indication of Cotto's viability at 160? The guy got schooled by Trout. He'll get destroyed by the top 160lb fighters, and 154lb fighters. ESB fools never learnPosted June 8, 2014 3:30 pm
te tumbo
Cotto did look good v. an older, rusty, and broken-down Martinez. Roach is now declaring that he would look just as good v. a "Shot" Mayweather whose legs are "gone". Pay Attention. the attempted cherrypick is unfolding before your very eyes and Roach isn't trying to hide his intention of targeting a presumably vulnerable Floyd. he's announcing his intention for everyone whose listening to hear and process.Posted June 8, 2014 3:27 pm
Mike Tyson
Tumbo . Agree there, got pontroach mouth is too much he made PAC get knockout say PAC need a ko to win.
Mike Tyson
Cotto has oth hand up high and he switch position back and forth marinez was frustrated he could not see a opening, every punch he threw was blocked by cotto. And cotto head was moving back and he come back with a Counter punch. Cotto left had was distroying Sergio body in his combo after he got the head in his combo. Sergio hate to get hit. He quited in the tube I saw last night the poster said in Spanish that Sergio said enough stop it. And the trainer took the blame after he stop it. And Sergio act like he was disappointed. They was no point going forward cotto was way above,
te tumbo
TYSON, with all due respect, I could care less about my "credibility" as a "boxing fan". i'm a fight-fan who calls them as i see and feel them. i'm in no competition for accuracy or popularity. besides, I (and Roach) cited Martinez's broken-down condition beFore the fight. i cited it as Cotto's best and only chance for the win and Roach cited it as the primary reason he confirmed the matchup. in fact, Roach is now shamelessly citing Mayweather's "shot" condition for wanting to confirm a rematch v. Cotto. Pay Attention; keep your Facts straight; or else it's YOUR credibility as a boxing fan that will suffer. otherwise, you either see what i see or not. it makes no difference to Me.Posted June 8, 2014 3:21 pm
okay let's see Cotto man up and fight Golovkin. I bet he doesn't, I bet Cotto ducks him. Golovkin would smash Cotto to bits inside three rounds.Posted June 8, 2014 3:18 pm
Mike Tyson
Tumbo why the sour grapes? Give credit, don't have to be full credit in catch weight fight, but don't denai what everybody saw or you lose crebility as a boxing fan and get label I to a fanboy Peej area.
te tumbo
"te tumbo look at Sergio's record"(?). TACHYON, perhaps You should take a closer look at Sergio's and Cotto's record while you're at it. you'll find that a young and unknown Margarito was hardly "over the hill" when he defeated Martinez. that was the Margarito that Cotto defeated with an assist from the ring-doctor. meanwhile, Williams was favored v. Martinez by most clueless "experts" and so was Pavlik. Martinez ruined these presumably P4P fighters at the time that Martinez faced them as the underdog NOT the favorite. need to get your facts straight, son.Posted June 8, 2014 3:04 pm
mixed Marquez with Martinez . . . sorryPosted June 8, 2014 3:00 pm
Mike Tyson
Anonymous, if Martinez legs was gone why th heck he was dancing all night, he was looking like a amature moveing unnessacerly, clearly he was afraid of cotto punches, didn't he hear staying put about blocking with your arms and Counter punching?
Mike Tyson
Anonymous, if Martinez legs was gone why th heck he was dancing all night, he was looking like a amature moveing unnessacerly, clearly he was afraid of cotto punches, didn't he hear staying put about blocking with your arms and Counter punching?
Mike Tyson
Anonymous, of Martinez legs was gone why th heck he was dancing all night, he was looking like a amature moveing unnessacerly, clearly he was afraid of cotto punches, didn't he hear staying put about blocking with your arms and Counter punching?
well said tark.Posted June 8, 2014 2:47 pm
The revisionist view of Martinez is ridiculous. The guy was a major talent at one point. He's 40 now. Way past it. But the guy beat much bigger fighters, better schooled fighters, for years, and did so impressively. Idiots.Posted June 8, 2014 2:43 pm
Congratulations to Miguel Cotto for exposing an over confident Sergio Martinez that was a good athlete with some boxing skills at one time, but he was never anything special. We all knew both guys were past their primes, but Martinez was physically more broken down and his age and inactivity added to his down fall. Martinez used his movement and hand speed to win most of his fights. Boxers like Ali, Roy Jones Jr and Martinez use their athletic ability to beat the majority of their opponents. They are not technically sound fighters that learn how to fight inside and deal with pressure fighters that take their best punch and keep coming. They take punches and have strong fighting hearts, but they are lost if they can't use their legs, move, counter and box like they did when they were younger. Cotto deserved this win because he has always been a warrior. He is very respectful and always gives fan pleasing fights. He's a well rounded fighter that has taken his lumps. Martinez was physically falling apart and has been for his last few fights. He needs to retire. Miguel Cotto is in the drivers seat right now, but he has very difficult challenges that would be tough for him to win. IMO, Canelo is too young, fast and strong. Lara is too good. GGG simply destroys him. Cotto would be fighting the young guns that would present too difficult of challenges for Cotto to win. He's too small. These guys are not Martinez. He could fight Mayweather, and the fight would be great in MSG. Maidana showed the blue print, and Cotto is much more skilled than Maidana. If Floyd is slowing down, which I think he is, Cotto could beat him. If Floyd is still at the top of his game, he wins an easy decision. A big fight would be Cotto vs Manny Pacquiao. This would be a huge fight for redemption, and the fighters fan bases would create an exciting, explosive environment. These fighters fans are loyal and they love their fighters. Cotto would fight for redemption and Manny for his 9th title. What more drama would you need. Unfortunately for Miguel Cotto, he takes a tough beating and gets stopped in the later rounds. Miguel Cotto is a great fighter, but Manny Pacquiao is the greatest pure fighter of all time and a legend. Trust me on this, Manny beats Cotto badly. I like Miguel Cotto a lot, and I hope whoever he fights, he makes a lot of money and goes off into the sunset with his health. This is a class person that deserves the best.Posted June 8, 2014 2:37 pm
Thank you disciple two post below. See me the time of typing another post.WELL saidPosted June 8, 2014 2:09 pm
te tumbo look at Sergio's record only fighters of note are a over the hill Margo, shot Cintron, shot Williams, dead ghost, who still knocked Sergio down in the 7th, and Cotto who kicked his ass. The other 50 fighters on Sergio's resume are no names Sergio was all decent fighter defiantly not in the pound for pound category.Posted June 8, 2014 1:57 pm
Wow! No I don't think so. I had Martinez and lost like I do from time to time. My picking Donaire against Rigo was another bad call on my end. It doesn't happen often but I am awesome and don't care when it does. I am the greatest PROPHET ever!Posted June 8, 2014 1:55 pm
Early on in cottos career I recall thinking, "man this guy will never loose".
Cotto is fun to watch, very exciting when he's doing his thing.
Congrads to cotto.
Martinez has been looking busted up and a little past it for a while now, but Martinez had mad skills and accomplished enuf to be very proud.Posted June 8, 2014 1:54 pm
I took Cotto last night as a true WINNER would. I made my money and will laugh taking the cash to the bank on Monday. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 1:54 pm
an argie with bad knees.Posted June 8, 2014 1:51 pm
Cotto will get assassinated by the top MWs. Anyone who thinks this fight was some indication of a 'new Cotto', who will wreak havoc at 160, is a f*cking imbecile. Martinez is one surgery away from needing a walker. The guy is beyond done.Posted June 8, 2014 1:39 pm
this fool tried actually tried to draw parrallels b/w roach insinuating fraud may has made a career of praying on the weak and vulnerable. and i thought boxy liked fraud to slurp fraud may sackPosted June 8, 2014 1:36 pm
cotto does not dodge the best matchups. people were calling serg the best middle (though i believe its 3g and has been for some time). cotto fight serg is NOTHING like fraud fighting the ortiz, guerrero, maidana's, baldomirs, and past its like gatti and mosely and post retired like oscar.
fraud has not even faced the two recognized best welters of the last years in pac and bradley.
epic fail at tryingto draw parrallels b/w roach and fraud. fraud has mDe a career of cherry picking and dodging the best matchups and roach has not made a career of it. roach does not keep his fighters from the best matchups son.
the best punch in klitschKO VS haye was the one that mushroom stamped hayes forehead and appeared to do the most damage in the fight. but u fan have your opinion.
froch did land the best punch of froch vs ward and its not debatAble son.
your bitter when the objects of your nuthuggery get put in their place boxy.
and your numerous alts and multiple fight forecasts/predictions covering all bases on a fight are garbage as wellPosted June 8, 2014 1:33 pm
Floyd has beaten 11 CHAMPS in his last 13 Fights! WOW!!! Now THAT is called strategically SHINING.Posted June 8, 2014 1:10 pm
"like a general roach strategically shined. weather in tactics or gauging the enemy was weak and ripe for the taking."-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! Made MY day!!! When Mayweather does it it's called cherry picking but when Roach DOES it it's called "strategically shining" LMFAO!!! Your CLEAR two facedtedness is amusing. Just as when you bragged about Froch landing the best shot vs Ward but you don't like to brag about Haye landing the best shot vs Wlad….YOU are a two faced JOKER.Posted June 8, 2014 1:07 pm
strategically roach and cotto took martinez out though and he will no longer be a factor CLEARLY. and there is certainly value in the scalp reaping/harvesting but that value is certainly debatable. like a general roach strategically shined. weather in tactics or gauging the enemy was weak and ripe for the taking.Posted June 8, 2014 12:50 pm
i concur with te tumbo. dude hiw many if us have been saying for what more than a year that serg bidy is broken? it was a huge and undeniable factor in this fight that unfolded before everyones eyes.
dismissing it and pretending it was not a factor and it was just cotto skill is asinine. serg body is shot, end of story.
if may wants to challenge guys at 160 tell him to give 3g a call biatchPosted June 8, 2014 12:43 pm
Can't believe some of the rubbish I'm reading here. Sergio looked absolutely abysmal from the moment the first bell rang till his corner pulled him out. He displayed all the hallmarks of a shot fighter but for some strange reason boxing has become popular among the clinically blind all of a sudden.
His legs are done. He can't hold a shot anymore. He couldn't get out of the way of anything Cotto was slinging for love nor money.
Even grazing shots were wobbling him alarmingly. He even got rocked on his heels by a stiff jab and looked hurt by it.
A 178 lb prime killer Pavlik's punches didn't have close to the same effect in him.
Pavlik's KO record at 160 is scary. He's stopped nearly everyone he's fought at that weight and 10 or 11 fighters who had never previously been stopped before.Posted June 8, 2014 12:39 pm
te tumbo
TACHYON, Roach himself cited Martinez's broken-down condition as the rationale for challenging him in the first place. somehow, that always gets lost in the spectacle of another Roach-contrived mismatchup. therefore, whether it be (as you claim) that a 39-year-old Martinez was never that good and/or (as Roach and myself asserted) that he was in broken-down condition, it's a paper-accomplishment for Cotto that doesn't indicate how he would do v. the best and prime at middleweight. even now Roach is backtracking and trying to lure a "shot" Mayweather whose "legs have gone" to a rematch at 160lbs(?!). obviously, if Cotto had proven that he was such a viable middleweight, he wouldn't be considering welterweights for his next challenge.Posted June 8, 2014 12:32 pm
te tumbo Sergio knee had nothing to do with it he was moving fine only time he slipped was when he stepped in his own water spots that dripped from his shorts. Cotto was complaining about the same thing water on the ring mat. Sergio got his ass whupped because he was never that good and rod wins over shot Williams and ghost into the ground. Other than those two names his resume is full of bums from the EU. Side note I don't think they should put adds on the ring floor its a danger to the fighters due to being slippery when water drops on them.Posted June 8, 2014 12:18 pm
The punch that initiates the 3 knock downs in round 1 makes the difference in this fight. This is the trademark punch Roach taught to Manny Pacquiao. A right cross over a jab for Pacquiao. A left cross over a jab for Cotto since Martinez is left a hander.Posted June 8, 2014 12:14 pm
Wow to the LOSER below didnt take the trolls below too long start using my new name. Pathetic joke!Posted June 8, 2014 11:54 am
Full props to Cotto, who has flourished under Roach. He should avoid GGG for a while. Take the mandatory against Rubio, and milk it for a while, build up a little more to a true MW if he is serious about competing at this level. He is a technically sound fighter, with decent power, and a great variety of punches.Posted June 8, 2014 11:52 am
The surprising thing is that Cotto kept hurting Martinez with those head shots… again and again. Martinez was able to fight off these bigger guys with knees that needed repair… but Cotto kept catching Martinez on the side of the head. Also Cotto was faster than Martinez and his countering was also spot on. This fight is reminiscent of Cotto's fight with Malignaggi. Malignaggi always had his hands down and Cotto made him pay for it.Posted June 8, 2014 11:50 am
I wouldn't say that Martinez knees were bad last night, what was missing was the leg strength. Even if the knees are healed it takes a long time to build back the strength. Regardless Martinez has been a great fighter, but like RJJ he depended on his athleticism. When that started to go he started to struggle. Against a strong technical fighter like Cotto you could see the slippage was just way too much. I am glad it wasn't GGG he was fighting last night.Posted June 8, 2014 11:50 am
Another great entertaining fight by Cotto. If I was Cotto, I would say bye bye to boxing but now a lot of people want that title.Posted June 8, 2014 11:29 am
te tumbo
a broken-down Martinez was Cotto's best chance to win and Roach correctly concluded that Martinez was indeed in rusty and broken-down condition. "caught cold"? Wtf?!? it's a title-defense. more like rusty. it was also obvious that Martinez couldn't rely on his knee for sustained support in exchanges. yet another graying-scalp for Roach's collection.Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 am
Cut the crap…you had Martinez winning fool.Posted June 8, 2014 10:54 am
Once again I got it right. Sorry for the name change but people are trying to destroy my other username. This is nothing but pathetic little disciples. I remain the greatest fight PROPHET ever born and my picking of underdog Cotto proves it once again.Posted June 8, 2014 10:46 am
the only 40-year olds who can contend at the top level are those with impeccable fundamentals (Hopkins, Mayweather). Martinez's strength was his amazing athleticism, speed, movement. Once that left he became a sitting duck.Posted June 8, 2014 10:41 am
Anonymous … I don't know.
I think Cotto looked very wide, very strong.
I think Cotto had surprising reach — he could spring forward and cover a lot of ground.
I think it is possible Cotto could be great at 160.
On the other hand, you are absolutely right — Martinez knees were gone. And even so, Cotto was moving backwards in the 8th and 9th round.
Why was Cotto moving backwards in the 8th and 9th round against a guy with no knees? It doesn't make any sense.
I think it is very difficult to make sense of what boxing fans really saw in the fight. This fight could be interpreted a lot of different ways.Posted June 8, 2014 10:30 am
Martinez looked 10 times more shot than Tszyu did against Hatton, and Tszyu was a mere shadow of his former self in that fight.Posted June 8, 2014 10:17 am
Martinez is 40 f*cking years old, shot to sh*t, and ring-rusted. This fight means nothingPosted June 8, 2014 10:16 am
And that his trainer was literally shouting "Your knees aren't working! Your knees aren't working!" at him repeatedly before he pulled him out.Posted June 8, 2014 10:15 am
Big surprise. It is interesting that Martinez' camp continues to insist that his knees were fine and he was just buzzed by the initial knockdown. But Martinez looked shot – he was never able to throw a left hand with power. I hope they are not setting him up to continue his career – he will get killed by real middleweightsPosted June 8, 2014 10:02 am
Martiniez's bum knee was definitely a major factor. There were many times during the course of the fight where it gave out from under him or he was knocked off balance with ease. Everyone could see it was causing him serious balance related issues.Posted June 8, 2014 9:40 am
Most of you guys were rooting for Cotto … and I guess you didn't really watch the fight.
Here's what I saw both good and bad for Cotto:
– Cotto looked strong and wide — the extra weight made Cotto look very powerful
– Martinez was wearing extra long pants and he had some type of knee support equipment on both knees
– Martinez had very bad balance — probably because his knees were weak
– Knockdowns in the first round were grazing shots — Cotto did not catch Martinez cleanly
– Left hooks by Cotto in the middle rounds caught Martinez more cleanly and with more power than the shots in the first round — Martinez did not go down but he looked wobbled and dizzy
– Martinez caught Cotto with several counter jabs in the middle rounds that pushed Cotto hard
– Cotto was moving backwards in the later rounds — a bad habit that has persisted for Cotto since the first Margarito fight
In summary, the fight could interpreted two different ways:
(a) Cotto looked big and strong with great power and surprising reach for his size — Cotto can compete and dominate at 154-160
(b) Cotto needed 9 rounds to finish a guy with no knees, Cotto was getting hurt by counter jabs toward the later rounds and going backwards and running out of gas — maybe Cotto is better off going back to 147-154 and work with Freddie Roach to win big fights rather than getting hurt by really big middleweights like Golovkin who has both knees working fine
I don't know. My guess is that Cotto is better off fighting Alvarez rather than Golovkin.Posted June 8, 2014 9:28 am
Manos de Piedra
You could see he never had his legs undereath him from the outset. He couldn't even attempt to land a telling punch to the head without falling badly off balance. He was only able to land with any authority to the body and even then his crook knee dictated that he could do so sparingly.
This recurring problem with his knees obviously stems back to his days playing soccer and competing as a professional cyclist. Knee problems are common place in both sports. Vitali Klitschko, who like Sergio also made the transition to boxing after previously competing in another sport, has suffered from career threatening injuries to his knees at a relatively young age as well.
He should not have been in the ring last night. All he has left now is heart and courage. Hopefully he realizes that's it for him now and decides to hang up his gloves.Posted June 8, 2014 9:27 am
Wow! I completely blew this one. I was sure Martinez would dominate most of the fight and either stop Cotto late or win lopsided decision. I always thought Miguel was entertaining but somewhat overrated. He truly showed his class last night, great job Champ!Posted June 8, 2014 9:24 am
Manos de Piedra
Sergio looked about as shot is it's physically possible to be. His punch resistance is non-existent and his knees are in an obviously in a pitiful state.
The torrid time he encountered against Martin Murray was a clear portent of things to come. Murray isn't very good at all and he's a very light puncher.
Looking back in hindsight the writing has been on the wall for a long time. Sergio's struggled badly against every opponent he's fought since Dzinziruk. Barker, Macklin, Chavez, Murray, and now getting handled easily by a blown up Jr. Middleweight Cotto.Posted June 8, 2014 9:24 am
There was nothing wrong with his knees! Sergio danced around the ring the whole time last night NEVER SHOWING ANY knee problems. The problem was him getting blasted by cotto the first round and not recovering, plain and simple. His legs were spaghetti after the punishment he recieved, not brecause of an injury or meniscal tear. I am an orthopedic Surgical P.A. if Martinez's meniscus was busted his knee would be locking up etc….but the reality is that his MCL, PCL OR ACL were never ever damaged in ANYWAY. That would be more of an issue. If he had a meniscal tear they would have just cleaned it up, therefore NOTHING WOULD CAUSE THE KNEE TO LOCK UP. So people who claim his knees were bad don't talk without knowing how the mechanics of the knee work. On top of that MARTINEZ had an MRI That THE NY COMISSION HAD HIM TAKE days before the fight and if he had a meniscal tear they would have called the fight. Don't knock the outstanding job Cotto did last night! He dominated from round 1 until they stopped it in the 9th! Oh the 9th round that serio said he'd knock cotto out it! Lmfao if you want to say age caught up to Sergio then say that but don't blame it on injuries. Lou Dibella even said that there were no issues with Martinez's legs but that Cotto was far superior. They even asked Sergios trainer if He was complaining about his knees and he said not at all. In closing even a prime Martinez would have gotten destroyed by this version of Cotto. Martinez has always been sloppy and this is the outcome that happens when you have a better fighter beating a pretender! Have a nice day and I told you soPosted June 8, 2014 9:21 am
Public Enemy
Cotto came in at 155lbs barely, he's not staying at Middleweight.. he proved he has the Balls and skills beating a top Dangerous Middleweight.. he will go back to fighting at welter weight. Possibly Mayweather 2, Paquiao 2 or vs Cinnabum providing Canelo gets past lara… no need for Cotto to fight 160+lb guys when he could barely make 155lbs.. We'll see now if Mayweather has the Balls to give Cotto a rematch at 154lbs..Posted June 8, 2014 9:11 am
Public Enemy
Martinez's knee's weren't bad he was running away from Cotto all night long after Cotto rocked him in the first Round dropping him 3 times.. Sergio was moving around like a track star on his Bike with no knee issues trying to survive.. stop the excuses you Divas' LOLPosted June 8, 2014 9:08 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Congratulations to Miguel Cotto for knocking-out Sergio Martinez to become the new Lineal/WBC world middleweight champion! He earned this victory and world title to his career legacy.
I'm glad that Cotto won, as I never felt Martinez was a interesting middleweight world champion or one of the best either in the middleweight league. All ready from the start when he won the world title from Kelly Pavlik back in April 2010 I droped him intersting when he made the STUPID mistake to drop the WBO title from the once unified crown unified by Bernard Hopkins.
Sergio Martinez was a good boxer in his best days and he made 2 interesting fights as middleweight champ with his rematch KO 2 victory over Paul Williams in 2010 and his UD victory over Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in 2012 But the other 4 defences was no special to me.
Martinez felt like a title holder who was not interesting to fight thretning opponents so under 4 years he was mostly silent on wanting to unify the world middleweight titles and he did not make it better by avoiding Gennedy Golovkin either.
Correctermundo, no one actually cares what you think. Sorry, you have waaaay too much self importance.Posted June 8, 2014 8:11 am
Cotto finally has his career defining win. Proud to be Puerto Rican, especially today.Posted June 8, 2014 8:03 am
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Goodbye Maravilla thx for the memories…Prolly a good thing he never fought Golovkin…Even if that was the natural thing to do at 160..He would've been killed…It's clear that those of us who claimed, he was done were in fact right…Cotto did good and should be praised for the win …He did what guys like Murray,Chavez and Macklin couldn't and that in itself is impressive enough for a smaller guy..It sometimes pays off to have balls in boxing and life…The greats of yesterday can look down at Cotto and nod in admiration and welcome him to their ranks..Posted June 8, 2014 7:25 am
With clear and concerted sabotage on my name particularly with this fight last night ESB REALLY needs to only allow one registered USERNAME.
It would keep people focused on speaking about boxing versus the TROLLS that do nothing but come to this site with no knowledge but just attempt to post under false usernames in an attempt to get a rise out of other people which is quite frankly just a distraction.
People like myself SREDMOND, TARK, HECDOG and a bunch of other long time posters, who constantly deal with fake posters would benefit as well and spent time talking about boxing versus defending people stealing their usernames
Sooner or later my change name will be sabotages well I'm a realist.Posted June 8, 2014 7:24 am
Tinker bell
No box tra that last post bears no resemblance whatsoever to one of an egomaniac!Posted June 8, 2014 7:23 am
cant believe martinez lost.just like tark i had him and kell brook in my all time top ten.Posted June 8, 2014 7:23 am
I decided to change MY name. Due to stone age Website logic at ESB where you cant register ONE username, The whole BOXTRADAMUS name has come to an END. The name has been infected like a spreading cancer with an estimated 75 to 100 people using my name and attempt to DEFAME me!!! My BEST bet at this point just have faith in that the real posters in the site know who is the true me versus these phonies!!!
Those REAL people who know me kno I am not an EGOMANIAC person who picks both combatants in a fight but picks ONE prediction sticks with it from the date the FIGHT is announced in MOST instances. In the RARE times I am wrong I am MAN enough to admit it but it's obvious most people here dont know the REAL me.
I was WRONG last night in picking Martinez by SCINTILLATING stoppage. However regardless of NAME I REMAIN the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted June 8, 2014 7:16 am
Great win for Cotto. Miguel's peak was as a welterweight but nevertheless he boxed superbly last night. Martinez's best days r well behind him, he shud retire. … And WOW, how amazing does Pacman's STOPPAGE of Cotto look now. Bearing in mind, Manny can probably still make LIGHTWEIGHT if he wants to!!Posted June 8, 2014 7:13 am
Stop bringing up may/pac first off. And A beating B and B beating C doesn't mean A beats C. Cut the crap.Posted June 8, 2014 6:40 am
Auz, don't be sorry I just don't respect your perspective on this but you are entitled to it..At the end of the day Great win for Cotto and now both Floyd and Manny have a 4 weight world champ on their resumes.. Case closedPosted June 8, 2014 6:34 am
Cotto is NOT gonna keep boxing at 160 that's unlikely, he has 2 BIG Paydays at 154 very possible, Mayweather 2 or Canelo assuming he beats Lara… There is not another big money fight at MW and I'm not sold that it's his best weight anymore than Marquez beating Manny made 147 his best weight.. Sergio is very finished
SREDMOND sorry PAC beat the fresher cotto at 2 pound less than normal. He is no better than mayweather with Canelo 2 pound weight restriction. As the last few posters have stated this is cottos night he dominated the middleweight champ PAC and mayweather don't rate today. Cotto is kingPosted June 8, 2014 6:29 am
Auzbox, your perspective is childish I
Yes your right its all cotto he was an absolute legend today in auz but last night in the states. Shocked the boxing world and he is a great family man. A true middleweight champ, well done MiguelPosted June 8, 2014 6:24 am
Just so you know
Auzbox, you commented that Pacquiao fought Cotto at welter I was just pointing that he didn't. You're right Mayweather did same with Canelo but you hadn't mentioned that in your post and not everything in boxing is about Pacquiao and Mayweather. Last night was Cotto's night not theirs – fair play to the credit you've given Cotto through in your recent posts.Posted June 8, 2014 6:15 am
Tinker bell
Thank you, ausbox. Cotto was superb today.Posted June 8, 2014 6:05 am
Cotto on today would of been heaps better against PAC and mayweather. Roach the best trainer in the world is allPosted June 8, 2014 6:05 am
Tinker I don't disagree its rubbish that cotto can't just enjoy his win without all this other talk. He done what mayweather was scared to do and so should of PAC been to as well. Cotto is king today and can take it to Canelo if he passes LaraPosted June 8, 2014 6:03 am
Tinker bell
Here we go. You drag me into talking MORE abt those two blokes on the day Cotto fought THAT fight at MW, a fight 80 % said was a gross mismatch. Let's bring it back to him not those 2 other prima donnas.Posted June 8, 2014 6:00 am
No but PAC would of beat him to on today's performance. Bring on cotto v Alvarez if he passes Lara.Posted June 8, 2014 6:00 am
at least, there will be no martinez-pacman fight.Posted June 8, 2014 5:58 am
Yeh past his best in the way of power but still dominating top p4p guys. Floyd on the other hand is not what he was 3 years ago. Maidana made him miss by feet on a few occasions.Posted June 8, 2014 5:58 am
wowPosted June 8, 2014 5:57 am
Tinker bell
Manny is past his best. Don't fool yourself. If you can't see that then you are in denial.Posted June 8, 2014 5:55 am
and mayweather was scared to fight this argie. lol.Posted June 8, 2014 5:53 am
Tinkerbell pull your head in. Manny just dominated the #3 p4p fighter on the planet so but rich saying he is past it. Mayweather struggled against a guy outside the top 20 but still he won. Cotto was bashed in his prime by both.Posted June 8, 2014 5:52 am
Just so you know: still his previous two fights were at 147. So he made cotto drop 2 as did mayweather to Canelo. Good to know. No different between the two!!!Posted June 8, 2014 5:50 am
Tinker bell
And those wankers talking PAC and May taking some inference for themselves from this fight. You are just wankers looking for relevance in a boxing world that is getting on fine without those two has beens who have let us down by not ever meeting. Those two are eunuchs next to Cotto, who stepped up to MW as he did with no fear. So duck off with your empty words. Tossers.Posted June 8, 2014 5:48 am
@Hecdog…I usually like your post. But to call Floyd a tainted and tarnished boxer, that might be a stretch. I understand you hate him but earlier in his career he did take on the toughest opponents out there. But now it's more business and protecting his "O". But you don't get to 46-0 being a tainted and tarnished fighter. One fighter isn't going to ruin his legacy. Ecspecially not a juiced up Manny Pacquiao who originally didn't want to take the test. Have a nice day!Posted June 8, 2014 5:44 am
Tinker bell
The fact Martinez has an average resume and has been hyped larger than the reality mainly due to his spectacular ko of Williams, is neither his own fault nor the reason cotto beat him. Martinez has been a terrific (not great) fighter. Tonight, Martinez was clearly hampered by his knees. But Cotto gave him no opportunity to get into the fight. Cotto fought perfectly. It was breath taking to watch. Cotto made no mistakes and educated Martinez. Cotto had plenty left, as he coasted to an easy TKO.Posted June 8, 2014 5:41 am
Great performance by Cotto, Martinez was clearly not the fight of old but you can only beat what's in front of you and he did it in good style.Posted June 8, 2014 5:37 am
@E…It's prize fighting man, if you sign to take the fight your suppose to be ready. You saw Martinez refused to make any excuses he said he lost. Have a nice day!Posted June 8, 2014 5:30 am
Just so you know
Pacquiao fought Cotto at 145 not 147. Cotto was already struggling with making 147 and was looking at moving up.Posted June 8, 2014 5:24 am
How much did both fighters make tonight ?………Anyone know what the split$$ was ?……………..Posted June 8, 2014 5:21 am
a good little one never beats a great big one. lol.Posted June 8, 2014 5:10 am
Cotto is a dick – always targeting weak or weakening champs – Yuri foreman at 154 and now Martinez at 160-he is a paper champ at 160Posted June 8, 2014 4:59 am
I really am a prophet to boxing! Hey guys just landed the jet by my secret villa! I'll review the fight via satellite connection and let you know more about how I see the fight.. but no worries! Cotto won, and thanks to me, my prediction was truth. I am the truth guys! When I land in your nation again, I will try sign autographs! Stay blessed!Posted June 8, 2014 4:51 am
Supreme Court
Le retour de l'enfant prodigePosted June 8, 2014 4:43 am
boss red
Congratulations to cotto for defeating a true champion by knockout something punkass may weather don't know nothing about maidaina , ortez ,baldamor Judah and them bums he went the distance with and scared to death of a former flyweight champion (pacquiao)you lames who follow or watch his boring ass fights must be from weakass grand rapids his home town not Detroit were the true champions come fromPosted June 8, 2014 4:36 am
Sorry but HOW is GGG the best in the division. Remind who exactly he has fought and beat? His last 5 opponents have 23 losses. He may have great potential but hasn't beat anyone I. The top 5 therefore how is he the best?Posted June 8, 2014 4:28 am
And somehow Floyd Mayweather is the topic of yet another article he has NOTHING to do with by people that claim to hate him so much…..Posted June 8, 2014 4:21 am
Cotto kicked ass. Where's sodapop? Boxstradamus, you are an assh*le.Posted June 8, 2014 4:18 am
third world
i picked sergio to stop cotto last week. as the fight got closer and closer i just had this feeling sergios knees,or his hands down by his knees,or his age,or his last couple of performances might come into play to cotto's advantage. all i can say is damn.i stuck to my prediction. i was wrong.Posted June 8, 2014 4:15 am
Also Cotto had some moves straight from Manny Pacquiao. Don't know if anyone else noticed.Posted June 8, 2014 4:12 am
hold my hands up, i had martinez to win by ud. never saw cotto as having a chance. just goes to show in this sport. i know martinez was coming to the end of his career, but i thought there was still water left in the well, but when he got there the well was dry. congratulations to cotto who executed his gameplan to perfection.Posted June 8, 2014 4:09 am
I read people even comparing Martinez to M.Hagler and putting him into all time top10 middleweights…give me a break.Posted June 8, 2014 4:06 am
Mr b
Cotto made very easy work of Sergio in the end , well done , fingers crossed he fights ggg or alveres nextPosted June 8, 2014 4:06 am
Adam: you are right. I say 75 to 90 percent of people here predicted Martinez to win in a devastating passion. Now you see posters have names from before the fight. Boy they are all so wrong. Some admit they are wrong some just change thier name and start blaming Sergio's busted knee.Posted June 8, 2014 3:53 am
You 'experts' make me laugh. You had Martinez destroying cotto and as soon as as Miguel schooled him, u play it down and blame Martinez's dodgy knees. Cotton put on a boxing clinic and Martinez would never have an answer for it, at any age or era. Deal with it!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 3:48 am
Hecdog: very good post as always!Posted June 8, 2014 3:48 am
mookie blaylock
naive cotto fans, this fight was more telling of how far Sergio has fallen, his legs are gone, 2 of the first three knockdowns were from punches that didnt land clean
@hecdog – please put the crack pipe done! These rants are getting played out!Posted June 8, 2014 3:44 am
god bless HecdogPosted June 8, 2014 3:42 am
I have a lot of time for Geale, I am a pom who has lived in Australia for 10 years, and Geale is one of the few Aussie sportspeople I get behind unreservedly because he is a classy guy, brave, dedicated and unafraid to travel.
But I think all his plus points are going to work against him in this fight, two of three big exchanges and the technical & power difference will tell and he`ll be on his bike, which isn`t his strength.Posted June 8, 2014 3:41 am
haha take me down Sorby you gutless prikPosted June 8, 2014 3:37 am
Floyd Mayweather is a tainted and tarnished boxer. The world knows that he never wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao and neither did the rest of his family. It's all been documented well. Floyd's numbers went down hill in his last fight in which Maidana through him and beat him around like a rag doll. Fans want to see real fighters like Pacquiao, Cotto, GGG not runners and defensive fighters that won't dare put themselves in harms reach. This is called the FIGHT game for a reason. Cotto and Pacquiao fans are loyal and back them up 100% win or lose. Mayweather turns his fans off by acting like a little girl telling everyone that he will not fight Manny Pacquiao unless Bob Arum is nowhere around? And he wants to be called a great fighter? As time goes on, he becomes less and less relevant as all his publicity now takes place in strip bars taking on his biggest challengers like TI. Floyd Mayweather is on the way down and out. He blew his opportunity to do something special by avoiding the biggest Mega Fight of all time. And no he should not get a shot at Cotto. Miguel has some tough middleweights he should be concerned about or he can fight Manny Pacquiao again and make another Mega Fight which boxing fans will love. Cotto and Pacquiao are true legends that will be respected and honored with prestige and glory because they fought everyone and ran from no one. Mayweather will always be remembered as the guy that avoided the legendary Manny Pacquiao.Posted June 8, 2014 3:36 am
Come on Cotto….do the right thing.
I know a guy without dodgy knee,
Bill Patrice Jones
Unbelievable. Cotto is an absolute legendPosted June 8, 2014 3:28 am
Floyd is a diva! Now that Cotto is with Roach I'm pretty sure the demand king will not have his way with Cotto. I want Cotto vs Canelo next! Forget Floyd Mayboring he is out of Promotions (GBP and Top rank) to suck blood off. Let him be alone and miserable.Posted June 8, 2014 3:26 am
Pacman should buy a front seat ticket to Floyd's next fight. Just to spook him.Posted June 8, 2014 3:19 am
Peej: Floyd can't afford to fight Cotto again. Floyd is scared of Freddy Roach!Posted June 8, 2014 3:15 am
Hecdog: My post and prediction
Miguel Cotto will pull off the upset. He is the better all around technical fighter albeit against a bigger, moving, southpaw boxer like Sergio Martinez. The pro Puerto Rican Cotto crowd is going to be electric and give Cotto that energy boost and resilience he had in his younger days. Cotto is going to have to put on smart pressure and go to the body always being careful not to get caught. Martinez is old in terms of boxing. Those legs won't last for 12 rugged rounds. His inactivity will affect his timing and reflexes in a tough fight. He's been off over a year. He looks soft to me. Once those legs can't carry him and they break down, he will be another old Roy Jones Jr. Great athletes, but never learned how to fight in the trenches and they never took chances. Martinez will be a punching bag for Cotto to terrorize. The first 5 rounds will be very important for Cotto not to get caught. Martinez will begin to wear out around the 6th round and will be stopped in the later rounds. Miguel Cotto puts it together one last time. And yes, I'm betting with my heart on this one. Go Cotto!
Posted June 6, 2014 1:54 pmPosted June 8, 2014 3:13 am
joe b
Angry Barge = a special kind of stupidPosted June 8, 2014 3:02 am
Argy bargy
Good night, Joe BlowJob.Posted June 8, 2014 2:59 am
joe b
Do yourself and everyone else in this country. Save the taxpayers money Angry Barge jump over a cliff. One less person off the government dole saves money. You must be on a special needs program collecting food stamps and paid section 8 housing.Posted June 8, 2014 2:56 am
Sorry I did not make MY appearance earlier as many of you were anticipating. I was WRONG tonight people for the FIRST time since the RIGO DONAIRE fight! I do NOT need any PHONY disciples falsely DEFENDING me! MY overall record though is near PRISTINE and this one LOSS dies not affect my STATUS of the GREATEST fight Prophet EVER born!!!Posted June 8, 2014 2:55 am
Argy bargy
Ooohhhhhh…that really hurts Joe. I may not recover from that. Let me guess? You subscribe to Viz magazine?Posted June 8, 2014 2:52 am
Chairman of the Board
what happened to martinez? The last time i've seen him in the ring was when he KOed Williams. But looking at him tonight, he looks his former self way back when. Did something happened to him physically outside the ring or did he just age overnight?Posted June 8, 2014 2:49 am
joe b
Hey Angry Barge 18 yrs ago, I put it in your moms azz and you pop't out.Posted June 8, 2014 2:49 am
Martinez was overrated and now his career should be done. Cotto isn't gonna rematch Floyd. He doesn't wanna lose that Championship. This is icing on the cake for him. He had held titles but never the Lineal Championship. CongratsPosted June 8, 2014 2:44 am
credence good to know someone sees the light good post.Posted June 8, 2014 2:42 am
Argy bargy
Hey Dee, please befriend Joe B, like a big brother.Posted June 8, 2014 2:42 am
joe b
Angry Barge ( could be Boxtradumazzz ) = loserPosted June 8, 2014 2:41 am
I am the greatest fight prophet EVER!!! I predicted in many elite boxing circles that Cotto would rule.. and I was RIGHT!! I am the greatest!! I am not off to my elite circles to discuss further upcoming bouts, make a handsome sum from my betting endeavors and live large!! Pay close attention guys, I am off now, about to board the private jet and head to one of my many villas on a secluded island!! I truly have the gift.Posted June 8, 2014 2:40 am
Argy bargy
Hey joe
Read Leviticus, make an offering, repent, eat some vegetables, move to the countryside, learn to write, keep a journal, but don't show it to anyone.
And most of all, think happy thoughts.Posted June 8, 2014 2:39 am
I feel sorry for carl as for joe b looks like he could afford the grand he loss. carl on the other hand sorry man. Angry Barge sound like you got a problem did you make a bet on this fight ? Even if you did don't think you would admit it.Posted June 8, 2014 2:37 am
Sorby you just can't stand to see anyone this side of the Atlantic beat one of your guys, you're such an asseholePosted June 8, 2014 2:36 am
joe b
Hey carl I got your back on this one. Angry Barge oh wise one how is that dil rod up your bung hole still doing ? You sound like some kike who is to cheap to even bet on anything. I lost and admit I lost at least I took a chance. You are the kind that doesn't take risks and stands behind the scenes critizing and giving advice making yourself like you know something but the truth is your a nobody and always will be. Go back into your parents basement and stay there masterbating over G A Y movies.Posted June 8, 2014 2:33 am
sean p h
Exactly jim. Sergio looked even worse tonight than he did against murray. His knees and body are shot. Sad way to go out. Hope he retires.Posted June 8, 2014 2:32 am
Sergio's knees were only a minute part of the problem tonight. Cotto's fists and skills were his real problem…a 33 year old Cotto dismantled a 39 year old Martinez. Cotto has been in way more battles than Martinez. Cotto isn't a slow lumbering 180 pounder masquerading as a middle weight.Posted June 8, 2014 2:31 am
Argy bargy
Joe B
Jim Rich
This is more of hall far martinez has fallen than anything, cotto is the same old over the hill cotto. martinez should just retire at this point and he will I would assume. Cotto if he steps up big will get slaughtered.Posted June 8, 2014 2:26 am
Argy bargy
joe b
Anrgy Barge you sound like Bernard Hopkins. A person that is a con artist. Not former still is and always will be. Angry you don't know jack your just a troll with a small wiener who lives in his parents basement.Posted June 8, 2014 2:24 am
Sergio has no knees at all; that's why he needed to wear the sleeves. Had he not wore them, the fight would have been stopped in the 1st or 2nd round for sure. Sergio just kept trying to prolong his battle because he's a class act and would not bail out. His trainer kept telling him in Spanish that his knees were not responding. You can't have bad anything with Cotto. Even Foreman found that out and he wasn't even at Sergio's skill level. Neither Sergio or Cotto are bums as both of them have been called here and there for years = everytime someone loses, they are called bums.Posted June 8, 2014 2:22 am
Argy bargy
One bets to lose money and house. One works saves and invests to make money. The original mono theists know this. Learn from them.Posted June 8, 2014 2:21 am
joe b
Boxtra who might be Angry Barge. Anti Semites ? Sounds like your a Jew, the same Jews who run America and the corrupt banking system. The same Jews who run rigged wall street and have a curtain of debt over every American. So here is my 2 cents on you Boxtra who might be Angry Barge Go F your self a 1000 times plus 2 and when your done go jump in front of a bus full of people.Posted June 8, 2014 2:20 am
FAKE TARK did the last TARK postPosted June 8, 2014 2:19 am
That was a good old fashioned street mugging Cotto put on Martinez. How appropriate it happened in New York…Sergio talked the talk but….we all know the story now. Sergio did good against big lumbering middle weights that couldn't box , when he came across a real boxer we all see what happened. Congrats Miguel.
People were still looking at the younger martinez. People always do this. They did it with Louis, Ali, SRR, SRL, Tyson, etc.
Sergio is OLD in boxing. Age wise, old. Wear and tear, OLD.
He had nothing left.
Beat GGG and I will be impressed. No excuses Freddie and Cotto. Fight someone young, alive, and at 160, fight GGG and show me how good you really are.Posted June 8, 2014 2:19 am
Mike Tyson
The thruth is don't be fooled by a terrific ko the Paul William ko was a lucky punch, Martinez was 20% ko fighter when it happen I call it back then, you run into a punch it happen sometimes considering the 1,000 of punches that are thrown at each other, he didn't see the punch so it's a nasty ko ran into it . I said he never do it again. He never did, but your mind tell you he can. Same as manny Ricky punch perfect punc he ran into it multiplying the force and didn't see = nasty ko.
joe b
carl sorry you lost not as much as joe b. Some on here make fun of others misfortunes. Not all people that bet do it for fun money, they do it to pay bills.Posted June 8, 2014 2:17 am
Cotto is really a great boxer and lots of credit to Martinez for fighting with injured knees even before the 1st knockdown for sure. It really showed after that. Martinez is a true warrior and so is Cotto.Posted June 8, 2014 2:17 am
IF you lost a grand you're a FOOL. I told everyone HERE to only bet on Floyd and Ward. DO that and you'll WIN alot like I DO.Posted June 8, 2014 2:16 am
That was a good old fashioned street mugging Cotto put on Martinez. How appropriate it happened in New York…Sergio talked the talk but….we all know the story now. Sergio did good against big lumbering middle weights that couldn't box , when he came across a real boxer we all see what happened. Congrats Miguel.Posted June 8, 2014 2:16 am
Argy bargy
Ha. Peanuts. Suck my circumcised pork sword.Posted June 8, 2014 2:15 am
Argy bargy
You anti Semites will be smited, eternally, eternally recurring.Posted June 8, 2014 2:15 am
joe b
Angry bargy – you got a problem with me, Whats your real screen name ? Why you hiding behind a fake name. Your a coward. A $1000 dollars is a lot of money. Watch the HBO Kellerman interview between Sergio and Cotto. A lot of believes thought Sergio would win this including me. You feeeen basterd !Posted June 8, 2014 2:14 am
Time for me to show my genius and I will fight GGG.Posted June 8, 2014 2:14 am
Argy bargy
…laughing all the way to the bank…Posted June 8, 2014 2:14 am
Argy bargy
… Also thanks Abraham, Moses and Job…Posted June 8, 2014 2:12 am
I'm with you joe b I lost big time on Sergio. $300 dollars is not chump change especially when the guy Sergio said he was going to stop Cotto. Now it's my turn hey Sergio please retire your pathetic worn out and done. Better yet pay my $300 dollars back you ripped us betters off and the PPV public. Like joe b stick it where the sun don't shine in fact stick a crow bar up your twat were the sun don't shine. Rents due, and i'm on the streets next week because of you A Hole !!!!!!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 2:11 am
Argy bargy
Joe b racist loses one grand. Now tell me there is no karma and cosmic justice. That has made a wonderful day more so. Thank you Jehovah!Posted June 8, 2014 2:11 am
Freddie roach deserves no credit other fooling the experts into thinking he is a great trainer by taking advantage of another opponent by getting them on the way day. Trainer of the Year my ass.
Next time you bet against Roach, remember, if he is willing to fight you, there is probably something wrong with you. He is like a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon.
When the Vulcher is flying above you, you are probably about to die.Posted June 8, 2014 2:07 am
You muppets know sh!t about boxing!!!! marinexxx going to cut Cotto's head off??? LMAOF!!!!!
Cotto a true, complete boxer. What a champion!!!
Now fvck off losers with your exxxxplanations!!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 2:05 am
One of the most fun nights in the Garden in a loooong time. Made even better because of all the disrespect Martinez showed Cotto leading up to the fight.Posted June 8, 2014 2:05 am
Public Enemy. Contrary to what you've been saying, Cotto can easily make 160 pounds. All he has to do is to eat more spaghetti and ice cream. Get it? He might have trouble making 147 but he is a natural 154, so why will he have trouble making 160? What you meant to say is (pay me for being your interpreter) that he will be a small middleweight if he decides to fight at 160. You're welcome.Posted June 8, 2014 2:04 am
Mike Tyson
It's also about pressure you can't get excited you do you run ou of gas or start trading or slugging tough man style. Cotto put on the pressure from the starting bell and ok the fight inside Martinez didn't expect that, he best jabbing and seting his punches up .so he wanted to show he stronger so he started trading but cotto a slugger / boxer use his slugging to win this fight. Sergio got excited and played cotto game at his weak spot. He probolly tried to change that half way boxing but it's too late cotto left was cooking already, the body punch killed Martinez from the start .Posted June 8, 2014 2:03 am
Nice win for Cotto definitely rejuvenated his career.Posted June 8, 2014 2:02 am
joe b
Marvilla sucks he said he would win and I Lost a grand F U Marvilla stick it were the sun don't shine. You said you would win and you got blown out. One more time F U Sergio !Posted June 8, 2014 2:00 am
sean p h
Maravilla still my boy. Everybody gets old. Cheers to cotto for a great win and to martinez long run as the lineal mw champion of the world. Hope he has a fast recovery and stays away from the ring.Posted June 8, 2014 1:57 am
The Prince
TARK – I usually don't respond to childish insults, but learn to read. I gave Cotto his props tonight, especially because I picked Martinez in hopes that he still had it, but he didn't and that's okay. He went out on his shield. And Floyd also stepped up when he fought Cotto. But wait, Cotto was past his prime then right?Posted June 8, 2014 1:56 am
Pappy Jack
That fight was a joke we are the foolsPosted June 8, 2014 1:56 am
Ghetto Thug
I expected Martínez to win but it didnt happen, too bad he was nothing but the Shell of what he used to be…. well done for CottoPosted June 8, 2014 1:55 am
well I picked Martinez, I really thought he'd outbox cotto. huge props to cotto for fighting a superb fight. thoroughly deserved victory. a great day for boxingPosted June 8, 2014 1:55 am
Mike Tyson
Bottom line Sergio was bulling lower weight class fighter Paul, Chavez cotto PAC and Floyd.
The Prince
blue eye devil – I can accept that. Give all three guys their credit. Fights don't cherrypick, the fans cherrypick who they want to give credit to for the same type of wins. People can't talk about how great Pacquiao and Cotto's wins are, but then try to discredit Floyd, and vice versa.Posted June 8, 2014 1:53 am
News Flash
BOXING IS DEAD.Posted June 8, 2014 1:53 am
Prince…look pay the end of your nose ( it shouldn't be hard it is so flat) and give credit to cotto not Floyd tonight. He stepped up and took the riskPosted June 8, 2014 1:52 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Correct blue eye devil. Cotto was not weight drained against PAC. He was, how do I put it ROADKILLPosted June 8, 2014 1:52 am
el tango
where are all these f#$%ing idiots saying here that martinez will win the fight?.oh cmon morons martinez has no legs and already aged!what the F!.Posted June 8, 2014 1:51 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Floyd might challenge him he likes to always have some advantage. I mean he made maidana fight with 16 oz gloves or something like thatPosted June 8, 2014 1:51 am
Mike Tyson
Boxing Purist, he gain speed at a lower weight but lost power I predicted that, just as I predicted khan will gain power. That the same thing happen when you grow up. You can rehydrate what weight you rehydrated is you power and speed so Martinez didn't rehydrated much, but cotto jaw pay a factor he rarely goes down, but Sergio goes down easy I predicted cotto will knock him down but was wrong that he would be winning but run out of gas,
It's ok trout and Lara was the only way to gage Sergio vs cotto . Seems Martinez can handle hight out put fighter, mago was one.Posted June 8, 2014 1:50 am
blue eye devil
According to some posters on here Manny's win over Cotto doesn't count because he forced Cotto to come in one pound under his weight for his previous fight. Well then obviously Floyds win over Canelo doesn't count for the same reason. And then, it would follow that Cotto's win over the middleweight champion at a catchweight must be discounted in the same way. Myself, I think that all three were legitimate wins.Posted June 8, 2014 1:50 am
sean p h
I hope martinez retires. He has nothing left to give in the ring.Posted June 8, 2014 1:48 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
As I said cotto got one more big fight. He seems happy with his wife and kids. Fight and beat the Canelo then retire with another 20 mill in the bank, if he beats Lara of coarsePosted June 8, 2014 1:48 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Beat it purist. You just can't hack that you gave cotto no chance in hell. Bad luck and see you next fight foolPosted June 8, 2014 1:46 am
Hidalgo, Cotto is not retiring… He's not the guy who's 39 with shot knees.
I watched 24/7 before the fight to pass the time… I noticed they never showed Martinez running. That's one thing they usually do. But they did show him getting up in the morning and walking very stiff legged to the bathroom — like he was gimpy. I thought, "Wow."Posted June 8, 2014 1:46 am
sean p h
Cotto does not need to box ggg or chavez. He has proved himself. Such a shame martinez body fell apart. Sad to see a boxers injuries qnd age finally get themPosted June 8, 2014 1:44 am
Boxing Purist
Martinez was stopping Chavez in his tracks when they fought. CHAVEZ WAS 190LBS WHEN THEY FOUGHT ! Cotto was walking through the same jabs that were stopping Chavez for 11 ROUNDS! How can you explain a guy 36 pounds lighter walking through thos shots? Wildcard is suspect!Posted June 8, 2014 1:42 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Cotto has one more good fight left. Take out the best Canelo that there has been then hang them upPosted June 8, 2014 1:37 am
Thurmal Underwear
wow. shame on me for selling cotto short. nice piece of work. martinez is done. he's in no shape for any more w/ anyone.Posted June 8, 2014 1:36 am
Mike Tyson
Boxing Purist, he fought him inside scrubbing off his power, big guys or boxer with large shoulder can fight inside canelo one, they throw round hOuse punches inside. I predicted that the way to beat Martinez. Remember I said Bradley or PAC would beat Martinez up inside, we they would have made him look like margarito face as in his fights with PAC, even Floyd would have best Sergio.Posted June 8, 2014 1:35 am
Furious Tyson
I'll eat my hat!Posted June 8, 2014 1:34 am
Boxing Purist
Hildalgo, Maybe you should read the comment over again!Posted June 8, 2014 1:34 am
Ayatollah Khan
Martinez is shot to sh!t. Murray nearly beat him.
Having said that I am happy that Cotto got to him before some no mark fighter like Quillin, at least Cotto is a legend and he's paid his jews (Arum).Posted June 8, 2014 1:33 am
Amazing.., Martinez looked every day of 39.. In fact he looked 45.
His last 2 fights were pointing this way, and his long rehab didn't bring him back. Hopefully Cotto will have the guts to face Golovkin.
The story of this fight was an old man's body breaking down and not coming back — despite his protestations that he's as good as he ever was. They all say that.
This fight was also a message to Wladimir Klitschko. Maybe even Floyd Mayweather. You can't beat Father Time forever. Some guys seem to be miraculously staving him off… but he's relentlessly coming to get you.Posted June 8, 2014 1:31 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Good read hidalgo. These phaggs need to suck it up. P4p sissy would never have wanted a piece of Martinez. Cotto went to the best trainer in the world and took a huge risk (which floyd doesn't take risks) and won easy. Didn't loose a round. Martinez a hall of famer dropped three times in 1 round. Roach trains guys to drop hall of famers three times in the first roundPosted June 8, 2014 1:31 am
Floyd has only fought 1 fighter coming off a loss on his championship run and that was Judah.Posted June 8, 2014 1:30 am
Boxing Purist
What the hell was Cotto on tonight? Martinez has been in the ring with stronger bigger punchers than Cotto. What are they giving these guys at the WILD CARD GYM? Cotto looked like a super human tonight! Usually by the 4th or 5th round Cotto is VISIBLY getting tired whether he is winning or losing the fight! This is what's wrong with boxing! Roche should be ashamed of himself for what is going on behind the scenes at his gym! Im not accusing Cotto of knowingly taking something but it was OBVIOUS that he has super power, strength and stamina tonight.Posted June 8, 2014 1:29 am
Congrats to Cotto. Didn't think he could do it cause of his size. Cotto came in weighing what he should of weighed. Young fighters need to take note. You don't have to come in heavy or same weight as your opponent.Posted June 8, 2014 1:29 am
The truth
Don't want to take anything away from Cotto, he did his thing. But damn!! Martinez was fighting on one knee… He had no punch leverage and was flat footed. Martinez needs to retire and cotto needs to fight Canelo or ggg(assuming ggg beats daniel geale).Posted June 8, 2014 1:28 am
Mike Tyson
Size don't matter to boxers……….only if our afraid to punch.Posted June 8, 2014 1:26 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Maybe floyd will fight baldomir again or Judah cause he is coming off a loss againPosted June 8, 2014 1:24 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Mayweather shouldn't want to fight cotto. He can't make middleweight and he picks on manny for fighting guys more than oncePosted June 8, 2014 1:21 am
Mike Tyson
If cotto fought like his inside he beat canelo up inside, that canelo weak spot he a boxer too.Posted June 8, 2014 1:20 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Well written johnnyPosted June 8, 2014 1:19 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Cotto v Canelo or Lara. Floyd can fight guerro again or Ortiz he likes those easy fights. Or his mrs again buy she nearly stopped himPosted June 8, 2014 1:19 am
Cotto is at his best. Roach and Miguel have a great team and it works extremely well. Congrats on the W.Posted June 8, 2014 1:18 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Cotto smashed a middleweight champ, floyd couldn't smash khan leftovers LMAOPosted June 8, 2014 1:17 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Well writtenPosted June 8, 2014 1:16 am
Ha ha ha!!!! All you haters… eat crow! We have a healthy Cotto with a damn good trainer (FINALLY). And the results???? POW!!! Good night Sergio. Eat crow like all your nutsackgarglers.Posted June 8, 2014 1:15 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Cotto should fight Canelo. Mayweather couldn't beat him unanimous lets see if cotto can. Canelo is getting better so if cotto beats him its the best Canelo not the catch weight Canelo kidPosted June 8, 2014 1:15 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Floyd couldn't break 1 mill PPV against maidana he will cry for cotto to get his numbers up. They will all be cotto PPV butPosted June 8, 2014 1:13 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Freddie the great schooled the middleweight champ. Mayweather camp couldn't do that. They will come out now and try get the fight. BUT FLOYD CAN'T MAKE MIDDLEPosted June 8, 2014 1:12 am
Mike Tyson
Cotto vs GGG next. He wanted the winner. Cott look good at this weight he do. Right GGG?Posted June 8, 2014 1:12 am
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I predicted a Martinez win. I was wrong and I admit it.Posted June 8, 2014 1:12 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Manny beat Marquez first foolPosted June 8, 2014 1:11 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Yeh your right mayweather doesn't deserve to be said in the same sentence as cotto. Mayweather could have fought at 160 anytime. Freddie one of the best trainers ever
Posted June 8, 2014 1:08 am
Keep telling yourself that kid.. Are you a Freddie Roach nuthugger???you sound like you want Roaches balls in your mouthPosted June 8, 2014 1:10 am
British Boxing Fan
Ouch. That has GOT to hurt the child. Easy now. She is just a kid. Cut back on the caffeine in your coffee, my bro !!Posted June 8, 2014 1:10 am
Public enemy
Cotto couldn't make 160lbs he only weighed 155lbs at the Weighin.. basically a welterweight fighting a top Middleweight… If Sergio wants a rematch Cotto should make him fight at Cottos weight 154lbs…Posted June 8, 2014 1:10 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Manny is out of debt not sure if you follow boxing closely. Top rank sign on fee had that coveredPosted June 8, 2014 1:09 am
Mike Tyson, Cotto pulled it off on style and no one is happier than me, a good pick does not change the fact size matters.. I would NEVER suggest Cotto stays at MW but tonight he was the far better man.. That was the end of Sergio Martinez… Hats off to CottoPosted June 8, 2014 1:09 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Liao.. Pactrannie got ktfo by a50 year old Mexican, Floyd beat 30 years early…..Posted June 8, 2014 1:09 am
Mike Tyson
Should have styed with m first pick cotto, but was right cotto get his knockdeown. Sorry I didn't think you could finish strong cotto, but you do excel with lefty. Iam 8 wins and 2 loses now.
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Yeh your right mayweather doesn't deserve to be said in the same sentence as cotto. Mayweather could have fought at 160 anytime. Freddie one of the best trainers everPosted June 8, 2014 1:08 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Floyd should do this. Floyd should do that. If Floyd was. Listening to you he wouldn't be were he is today. And not broke like PactranniePosted June 8, 2014 1:07 am
The Prince
Floyd beat the same Mosley that exposed and then knocked out Margacheato. History doesn't lie, Floyd ATG. But enough tormenting the Pactards and other Mayweather haters. Great win by Cotto. It will be interesting in see who he fights next.Posted June 8, 2014 1:06 am
Where's all the pactards that said Martinez would beat Cotto by KO?Man the @#$% up losers….Congrats to CottoPosted June 8, 2014 1:06 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Wrong again.. Winky Wright and Vernon Forrest beat him first. Another fail by a PactardPosted June 8, 2014 1:06 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Floyd started at 130 and has gone up 5 divisions. Manny 106 and has come up 8. Yeh floyd should come up 6 if manny has 8.Posted June 8, 2014 1:06 am
Mike Tyson
SREDMOND. See what I mean size don't matter? If he a boxer, you fight him close inside.
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Yeh princess 7 pound is massively weight drained. I rooted your mother for hours and dropped 10 pound and still made her cumPosted June 8, 2014 1:04 am
Another sad day for Pactards
All of sudden Pactrannie is the lighter guy.. Lmfao. It's a 2 way street for you guys. The all great pacroid doesn't have to step up and fight middleweights but Floyd does. Wow.. How naive are you idiots ???? That's just proof you know Pactrannie would get his head caved in..Posted June 8, 2014 1:04 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Cotto beat Moseley first. Softened him for floyd. Floyd doesn't fight prime guys. He will fight Martinez nextPosted June 8, 2014 1:03 am
The Prince
LMAO! Manny beat a seriously weight drained, mentally screwed, Cotto. Mayweather moved up in weight, took Cotto's best punches and almost stopped the bigger man. Floyd proved his greatness again when he defeated a game Cotto. The same game Cotto that stopped Martinez. Congrats, Mayweather.Posted June 8, 2014 1:03 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
What's Marquez got to do with this he fought a bum manny dominated 3 p4p. That's what real champs do. What title has Marquez got? NATO foolsPosted June 8, 2014 1:02 am
Cotto fought marvelously. He threw awkward punches from strange angles and Martinez was totally confused what is happening. He took martinez to a Puerto Rican boxing school. Much respect to Cotto the WBC middleweight champion.Posted June 8, 2014 1:02 am
Another sad day for Pactards
You Pinoys are the biggest trolls ever.. Lmfao. PatheticPosted June 8, 2014 1:02 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Why would manny fight at middle when he is a naturally lighter guy. Lets see floyd come out of the woodwork and contradict himself about fighting at middlePosted June 8, 2014 1:01 am
Another sad day for Pactards
And Marquez knocked trannie pacroides but out lmfaoPosted June 8, 2014 1:01 am
Once again i prove i am one of the best at making prediction. I said time after time….Martinez is overrated. I also said that there is no way in HELL Martinez was a better boxer than Cotto…NO WAY IN HELL!! Last i said i saw Cotto wining via GTFKO…he almost did in the first round but then the champ quit on his corner. This was without a doubt Cottos greatest night…he was flawless, he won every round, his stamina and accuracy were up the roof, and his ring general ship was a thing of beauty. Cotto the first 4th division champion of PUERTO RICO!!!! WEPAAAAAAAA!!!Posted June 8, 2014 1:00 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Martinez the bum. Is a great fighter according to pacturdsPosted June 8, 2014 1:00 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Manny stopped him. Doesn't matter that someone almost did it you fool. Also mayweather bags PAC for fighting people more than once surely won't break that statement to. IDIOTSPosted June 8, 2014 1:00 am
No. I am not posting too fast. Now for my question. With his knees so far gone, how was it possible that Martinez passed his physical? Does the N.Y. boxing commission merely look for a pulse and once it is found certify a fighter regardless of his overall condition?Posted June 8, 2014 12:59 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Let's see Pactrannie fight at middleweight… Heeeey- hoooo… Didn't think soPosted June 8, 2014 12:58 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
You fools bag Martinez, how many world titles you got pacturd? None just a forum idiotPosted June 8, 2014 12:58 am
The Prince
Floyd had enough balls to take Cotto's best punches after a long layoff and still almost stopped the man in round 12. I love it.Posted June 8, 2014 12:58 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Auzbox is using 2 names.. Lmfao. Pathetic attempt.Posted June 8, 2014 12:58 am
Ray Ray
So quick 2 change and turn….Cotto was cherrypicked v Floyd now his in his prime? Go figure…..dont no if id b saying floyd is 2 pussy 2 fight @ 160? Cotto v Mayweather 2 will happen, than u will look silly.Posted June 8, 2014 12:57 am
Another sad day for Pactards
My god lmfao. Martinez the bum is a great fighter now. LmfaoPosted June 8, 2014 12:57 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
No ray floyd said he could never make middle when asked about a gennedy fight so why would he want to now?Posted June 8, 2014 12:56 am
Straight Right
Congratulations to Miguel Cotto for making history as the 1st 4 division champ from PR. I knew he had the skill and experience to give Martinez a boxing clinic. He fought a great fight against a well proven MM CHAMP.Posted June 8, 2014 12:56 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
manny beat cotto at his best age. Freddie the best trainer in the world. Proves it again. Floyd doesn't deserve to be spoken about in the same breath as cotto. COTTO HAS BALLSPosted June 8, 2014 12:55 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Wow. He fought a bum.. Marntinez..
Ray Ray
Cotto v Floyd @ 160? If not nxt it'll b after Alvarez. Canelo gets schooled by the cotto that just fought…..that was a great performance….getting better with age and more weight…thats what the Hall of famers do. Congrates Cotto that was awesome.Posted June 8, 2014 12:54 am
Another sad day for Pactards
@ Auzbox.. Winning more fights??? Wtf. All of sudden Martinez is a great fight lmfao……Posted June 8, 2014 12:53 am
Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs
Well well well cotto whips Martinez. Better than any of floyds wins ever. Good to see you all bad the guy that didn't walk into a boxing gym till 20. Cotto did what mayweather was scared to do fight at middleweightPosted June 8, 2014 12:53 am
The Prince
First Cotto was past his prime and Floyd cherrypicked him. Now Cotto was weight drained. I love it. Hahahahaha!Posted June 8, 2014 12:53 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Who is marntinez ????? The guy that knocked down his last three fightsPosted June 8, 2014 12:52 am
The Prince
If Canelo beats Lara?! I don't think he will, but if he does…Posted June 8, 2014 12:51 am
Love how you discredit Martinez he had won more fights then floyd ever will be sure of thatPosted June 8, 2014 12:51 am
Never been so happy to be wrong Congrats to Cotto on his biggest win!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:50 am
Floyd can't make middle he said his natural is 147 he said he can't make 154 anymore. Lets see him try get the cotto fight hahaPosted June 8, 2014 12:50 am
Another sad day for Pactards
My god.. The Pactards are acting like Martinez is some great fighter. Why didn't Pactrannie fight him ???Posted June 8, 2014 12:49 am
Doesn't make fighters do catch weight- makes Canelo. Doesn't fight guys after a loss-fights judah. Can't make middle for GGG-let's see him try to get the cotto fight phaggotPosted June 8, 2014 12:49 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Cotto came down 1 division manny fights up two. He can still make 135 today. Cotto the real man today floyd wouldn't have fought Martinez. Pu ssy
Posted June 8, 2014 12:45 am
You're a sad desperate individual. Why would Money fight that bum Martinez..Posted June 8, 2014 12:48 am
well said happyboy …..Posted June 8, 2014 12:47 am
No the winner was cotto you dumb fool. Floyd had his chance to fight Martinez but said he can't make middle haha lets see him contradict himself againPosted June 8, 2014 12:47 am
Well done Miguel, no fighter deserved it more. ATG & HOF…Posted June 8, 2014 12:46 am
The Prince
Typo = Two.Posted June 8, 2014 12:46 am
Kiseniya Semenova ( 15 )
Aow ! Mr Boxtradamus is the most amazing man . He can have much informations of the future and inform us of the results . What a heart-break ! Bye bye , Gallant Sergio … you have been the best ! Hope you can rest now upon your all your lustrous achievements ! Love , Kiseniya Semenova . I am just a kid ( 15-years-old girl in Khabarovsk, far East of Russia ) , but I enjoy all boxing , esp. Asian-Pacific boxing & the future stars emerging from China . Sorry please for my very poor English – as my learnings are at school ( and we are struggling with it ) .Posted June 8, 2014 12:45 am
Cotto came down 1 division manny fights up two. He can still make 135 today. Cotto the real man today floyd wouldn't have fought Martinez. Pu ssyPosted June 8, 2014 12:45 am
brain eaters
I knew Cotto could do it. He is one of the best boxers out there. I would love to meet him in personPosted June 8, 2014 12:45 am
The Prince
I love it. Cotto had Floyd against the ropes more than once. Cotto was landing bombs to Floyd's body and got in to big left hooks in the later round, which bloodied Floyd's nose. Yet, Floyd was able to overcome. Martinez couldn't do the same. The biggest winner tonight was Mayweather's VALID win over Miguel Cotto.Posted June 8, 2014 12:44 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Of course we know pacroides next fight is against Marquez or RiosPosted June 8, 2014 12:44 am
Yeh righteo taxyon. Fighters get heavier as they get older, he dropped only 7 pounds and was young and fresh. Mayweather didn't budge him yet PAC destroyed him and he can make 135 so 2 divisions under 147 haha beat it you stupid fool. Floyd never wabted any part of Martinez the girly, cotto destroyed himPosted June 8, 2014 12:43 am
Cotto was at his best against PAC. He was older and worn when mayweather got him.
Cotto was weight drained against PAC …..If Pac were half the man peeps thought he was he wouldnt (Roach) have made fighters come in under there optimal weight …..Posted June 8, 2014 12:43 am
Another sad day for Pactards
Why did PAC weight drain Cotto?
big moe
Congrats Cotto. He deserves every bit of this win. He looked great tonight. Cotto set the tone from round one. No wonder Di Bella kept sergip away from GGG. It wouldve been criminal .Posted June 8, 2014 12:42 am
sean p h
I stand corrected. Martinez is done. His knees are done. Props to cotto.Posted June 8, 2014 12:41 am
Another sad day for Pactards
I thought Cotto was past his prime Pactards???Posted June 8, 2014 12:41 am
Auzbox Cotto was weight drained against Pac. If Pac had fought Cotto at 154 he would have gotten his butt handed to him. You notice Pac would not take the rematch at 154.Posted June 8, 2014 12:40 am
All the roach haters suck it up cause trainer of the year yet againPosted June 8, 2014 12:40 am
Henry miller
Martinez gracious in defeat. He didn't mention the obvious, that his legs were weak from the start. Cotto, very disciplined and crisp performance. Roach knew more than most it seems.Posted June 8, 2014 12:39 am
Why should cotto stay away from floyd? He going to loose a decision haha. Cotto should fight canelo. Floyd has never wanted the middle title before so he not need it nowPosted June 8, 2014 12:38 am
drunk pom
@anonymous.. you changed you're mind 20 f""""""" times the last two two weeks, so you go f"""" you're selfPosted June 8, 2014 12:37 am
I love boxtradamus, he brings so much fun. Let him be, he is a prophet.Posted June 8, 2014 12:37 am
Cotto was at his best against PAC. He was older and worn when mayweather got him.Posted June 8, 2014 12:37 am
Cotto better keep off Floyd though. My advice.Posted June 8, 2014 12:36 am
ecce homo! (behold humans!)
i dont know who you are that said that but knowing some nietzsche impresses me. good taste son!Posted June 8, 2014 12:35 am
The Prince
Also, Floyd haters can no longer write Mayweather win as it being over a past prime Cotto, since the Cotto we just saw was the best we've seen him his entire career. That's the slap in the face when you're a Mayweather hater.Posted June 8, 2014 12:34 am
Mayweather didn't take any of cottos best punches, he was outboxed. Cotto is with the best trainer on the planet so this is what happens,Posted June 8, 2014 12:34 am
Boxtra, everyone who follows eastside knows you. And we know you make multiple predictions. LOL!Posted June 8, 2014 12:33 am
You muppets know sh!t about boxing!!!! marinexxx going to cut Cotto's head off??? LMAOF!!!!!
Cotto a true, complete boxer. What a champion!!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:32 am
Boxtra you need to be in a mental home. Your wrong as usual. Hopefully no mayweather fight as he has never wabted to go to middleweight before so he shouldn't now!!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:32 am
The Prince
Anonymous – Wrong. Floyd took a long layoff. Took some of Cotto's best punches and still dominated the fight. Cotto's win over Martinez, makes Mayweather's win over Cotto even better. Nice try.Posted June 8, 2014 12:31 am
At least now we get a chance of 3g vs cotto. Let Cotto enjoy his victory for a while first.Posted June 8, 2014 12:31 am
i gimme bout for floyd at 160 in a cotto rematch? no phukn way that would be garbage and handing may a fake title and pretending he is a legitimate multi weight champ which he would not be .
3g vs cotto or a scam rematch??
hmmmmmm…… dont think too hardPosted June 8, 2014 12:30 am
I won a hundred bucks. Sergio never fought a real talent. As I have said Mayweather could beat Sergio but a coward will never be rewarded. If Floyd fought Sergio he will win and he can brush off Pacquiao. People will not talk about Pacquiao vs Mayweather if that's what he want.Posted June 8, 2014 12:30 am
As usual I was CORRECT yet again! !!!!! IF the impostors fooled. YOU then shame on YOU. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:29 am
It was a voluntary Defense. Hope Martinez wasn't TOO dumb to not have a rematch clause.Posted June 8, 2014 12:27 am
Boxtra, once again you threw rice at an outcome; by which I mean you made about 10 different predictions. One had to be right. As usual, you disclaim the others as impostors.Posted June 8, 2014 12:27 am
Argy bargy
Miguel cotto. Ecce Homo!Posted June 8, 2014 12:26 am
Well, Martinez predicted the fight would not go past the 9 round…I guess he's a much better fight prophet than Boxtradamus.Posted June 8, 2014 12:26 am
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Very very impressed with that performance by Cotto. This version of Cotto holds his own against any other Middleweight. If Pacman or Money think they could get a cheap belt here at Middleweight, they better think again. On tonights performance Cotto beats both at 160lbs.
Im sure I'll get hounded and ridiculed for this statement.Posted June 8, 2014 12:25 am
Cotto did itPosted June 8, 2014 12:25 am
So much for Floyd fans, especially mexican boxing fans who wrote a bunch of crap. You know who you are, you are the folks who get it wrong ALL the time!!! Congrats Cotto!!!! Viva Boricua.Posted June 8, 2014 12:25 am
So Sergio's own corner screwed him?? Yeah, ok, whatever.Posted June 8, 2014 12:24 am
It was Sergios corner that were using his knees as an excuse …..Posted June 8, 2014 12:23 am
Cotto stole that scalp off GGG.
He needs to get in there with him and take his punishment for doing so.Posted June 8, 2014 12:23 am
Cotto WON by SCINTILLATING stoppage just as I predicted! !!!!!! I am STILL the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:22 am
Tall Mike
Cotto vs Alverez nextPosted June 8, 2014 12:22 am
Sergio quite on the stool. First time Sergio fights a top 5 fighter he losses LOL. Knee had nothing to do with it HBO announcers are ridicules talking about knees.Posted June 8, 2014 12:21 am
SKILLS is more important than SIZE yet again!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!Posted June 8, 2014 12:20 am
Rudy the Ram
This was Cotto's greatest fight.Posted June 8, 2014 12:20 am
What a performance…………..Posted June 8, 2014 12:20 am
Great job HBO …
Let's do the next fight where we see a one-armed guy in their against Cotto.Posted June 8, 2014 12:19 am
Ray Ray
Wow…what a performance, surprised me. Cotto v Mayweather 160 here we come.Posted June 8, 2014 12:17 am
Win or Lose ……. I don not want hear Sergio make excuses ……For this performance ……….Posted June 8, 2014 12:14 am
Cotto is dictating which way Sergio moves ….I missed the last round ….though he is looking real good ..Making me eat my words which I am happy to do ….Posted June 8, 2014 12:12 am
pancho villa
then there will be mayweather -cotto IIPosted June 8, 2014 12:09 am
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Pancho Villa cotto will win thats whoPosted June 8, 2014 12:07 am
Martinez is too old, and the injuries sure did not help, I knew this would happen. Dont know why people picked martinez to winPosted June 8, 2014 12:06 am
pancho villa
who wins?Posted June 8, 2014 12:04 am
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say soda pop it's not his knees it's his career is finished lol you underestimate us Cotto's.Posted June 8, 2014 12:02 am
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say sodapop it's not his knees it's his career is finished lol you underestimate us Cotto's.Posted June 8, 2014 12:01 am
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Mart 0-2 Cott – Everytime Cotto lands he seems to hurt Martinez. Martinez down again but luckily the ref called it a slip. It wasn't!! Martinez trying to counter and get some fluidity.Posted June 7, 2014 11:52 pm
If little Cotto can do this to Martinez, what would Golovkin do to Martinez? Golovkin would destroy them both inside three rounds!Posted June 7, 2014 11:51 pm
The hook wasnt that solid, you all said Martinez don't jump on cotto nowPosted June 7, 2014 11:50 pm
The Prince
Like I also said, like Roy Jones Jr., Martinez can't take a solid punch and needs his athletics to help him avoid punches.Posted June 7, 2014 11:48 pm
Mike Tyson
Was at the mall today Read ring magazine new mag. Oscar talk, big read. Never knew Richard challenge Oscar leadership.
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Yo, Martinez will LOSE for sure.
No prince he has showed up. Roach best trainer in the world that's what it isPosted June 7, 2014 11:47 pm
Boxtra wrong againPosted June 7, 2014 11:47 pm
The best possible start for Cotto …….Posted June 7, 2014 11:46 pm
The Prince
As I said, if Sergio showed up, he would win, but he didn't show up and he's about to get knocked out.Posted June 7, 2014 11:46 pm
Rudy the Ram
Damn!Posted June 7, 2014 11:46 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Mart 0-1 Cot – 3 knockdowns to Cotto. Left hook is landing at will. Not sure if Martinez right knee is injured. Cotto looking sharp.Posted June 7, 2014 11:46 pm
Tomato Can
SM is retiring tonightPosted June 7, 2014 11:46 pm
wow, cotto knocks out martinez in round 1Posted June 7, 2014 11:45 pm
Tomato Can
WHOOOOOOOOOOOPosted June 7, 2014 11:44 pm
Rudy the Ram
This should be a good fight, both guys are smart vets. I think it'll be Martinez by split decision.Posted June 7, 2014 11:43 pm
Lord Kelvin
Filthy Argentines need to learn to understand that the Falkland Islands are BRITISH.
Their greasy football team protested today. Disgraceful. We`ll send the SAS around to decaptitate Messi if they don`t desist.Posted June 7, 2014 11:42 pm
Mike Tyson
Cotto shine with lefty, better that expected.Posted June 7, 2014 11:41 pm
@ TARK you are one sick creepPosted June 7, 2014 11:41 pm
Mike Tyson
I think trout and Lara are better than Martinez but this fight will tell us that he is or not.Posted June 7, 2014 11:40 pm
WOW … Ring girls looking so fine …..Sergio looks the goods @ 160 ……….Im leaning towards Cotto ..Hoping he can pull out the WIN …………vamos a ir Cotto ….Posted June 7, 2014 11:40 pm
Home court advantage…Cotto will be stronger and definitely more talented!Posted June 7, 2014 11:39 pm
Matinez will beat Cotto like trout did.Posted June 7, 2014 11:36 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Yeah it was a quick cut away. Maybe he was just adjusting his trunks.Posted June 7, 2014 11:34 pm
Mike Tyson
You know I going to say cotto will drop Martinez early. Logic say Martinez think he a strongest fighter, but he do t know cotto will beat him him up on the inside, and he will trade with cotto till he fine out he better outside. So still if cotto can hold it till 12 he win . He run out of gas Sergio will return the favor and drop him from the outside, still Martinez beat cotto barely.Posted June 7, 2014 11:33 pm
Tomato Can
I saw that. It looked like he was adjusting his trunks or something. But maybe it was something else.Posted June 7, 2014 11:33 pm
Cotto!Posted June 7, 2014 11:32 pm
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Is that you Jack?Posted June 7, 2014 11:31 pm
Tomato Can
It should be a one sided win for Martinez, but I got Cotto in an upset.Posted June 7, 2014 11:31 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Martinez moving around his dressing room. Showing some footwork and then as they cut away he reached for his back after turning. Did anyone else see that? You do not want to be unable to move when fighting Cotto.Posted June 7, 2014 11:30 pm
Dman ….Their working up a sweat in Cotto's room …Posted June 7, 2014 11:25 pm
Tomato Can
Uhhgggg. make it stop!!!!Posted June 7, 2014 11:24 pm
Tomato Can
what a great job singing the Argentinian national anthem.Posted June 7, 2014 11:23 pm
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I was the first Cotto to fight professional in the 80's my trainer was Bob Foster and my manager was Jack Luce. I was Tommy Cordava full time sparring partner, Tommy fought Freedy Roach. Today I'm a professional actor would someone tell Miguel Cotto to show his long lost realitive some love by winning. Lol Thank you all.
Tomato Can
UHHHGGGG.Posted June 7, 2014 11:21 pm
Jim Rich
The fight ain't worth paying for, it should be on regular cable tv.Posted June 7, 2014 11:17 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
It was an ordinary fight or wrestle for most of it, and the official scores are SD for Sonsona.Posted June 7, 2014 11:15 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 4-6 Vaz – Vazquez fought to the end and Sonsona did only the minimum. Í have it 95-93 for Vazquez. The commentator has it 97-91 for Sonsona. Now we wait and see.Posted June 7, 2014 11:13 pm
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My my we Cotto are very humble Miguel will win. Thank you all.Posted June 7, 2014 11:11 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 4-5 Vaz – Vazquez slowed down in that round. Sonsona is still missing a lot but scored more for that round. Last round should be interesting. Both need to win it.Posted June 7, 2014 11:08 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 3-5 Vaz – Vazquez found a home for the straight right and really snapped back the head of Sonsona with his best punch for the fight. The commentary Im listening to is ridiculously bias for Sonsona.Posted June 7, 2014 11:04 pm
Can someone give a good link to watch?Posted June 7, 2014 11:01 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 3-4 Vaz – Stupid round. Sonsona got a head butt and a low blow but then goes and does a stupid thing like hit Vz on the break. Sonsona doesn't look interested yet could blow this fight apart on his strength alone.Posted June 7, 2014 11:00 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 2-4 Vaz – Sonsona did enough to win the round but losses a point from the ref hitting behind the head. That evens up the 1st round knock down extra point for Sonsona.Posted June 7, 2014 10:55 pm
Philippinos make better cleaners or rent boys than fighters, it is just genetics.
But then even the rent boys can take a beating, the last one I had I whipped him with a coathanger and smacked his head into a door frame and he still smiled, took his money and walked out okay.
I felt a bit gultiy afterwards, but this stuff happens when you mix bourbon with precription painkillers.Posted June 7, 2014 10:54 pm
@ Hey, That's My Bike!!! Keep the commentary coming. Thanks.Posted June 7, 2014 10:52 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 1-4 Vaz – Sonsona fighting in spurts, seems to be worried about his stamina or a head clash from rnd 2. Vaz scoring cleaner and doing more. Apologies for spelling Vazquez incorrectly earlier.Posted June 7, 2014 10:51 pm
from the commentary …..Posted June 7, 2014 10:48 pm
Lol there a LOVEfest going on in the Roach /Cotto camp ….. a nice little insight ……..Posted June 7, 2014 10:47 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 1-3 Vas – Sonsona is either gassed or took the round off. A dominant round by Vas made by clean body attacks.Posted June 7, 2014 10:47 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 1-2 Vas – Sonsona looks good when busier but I find him missing or hitting arms of Vas due toi his good defence. The clean shots yet not powerful are coming from Vas. My score will not be a likeable one if you are listening to the commentators.Posted June 7, 2014 10:43 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 1-1 Vas – Sonsona looks good when he throws combos due to his heavy hands but I liked the purpose and busier work rate of Vasquez in that round. Sonsona looks like he could get lazy.Posted June 7, 2014 10:39 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
Son 1-0 Vas – Sonsona scores a knock down with a body shot. Vasquez scored some good counters and isn't ut of this by a long shot. Sonsona looks huge compared to Vasquez.Posted June 7, 2014 10:35 pm
Too broke for ppv
Thanks fellas!!!Posted June 7, 2014 10:30 pm
Naughty Boy
YOu need to add the starting stuff obvious h t t p : / / w w w etcPosted June 7, 2014 10:29 pm
Too broke for ppv
Does anyone have a link to this fight?Posted June 7, 2014 10:22 pm
Hey, That's My Bike!!!
My Pick – Martinez UD win over Cotto. More interested to see who has anything left in the tank after long successful careers.Posted June 7, 2014 10:21 pm
Tomato Can
Wow that was a heck of a fight.Posted June 7, 2014 10:18 pm
Lee took those punchers well TC … And as you know that is also Andys down fall …..To much heart not enough smarts ….Though Lee did not seem to be a effected by Jacksons punches today ….Good to see Andy set the trap ….And come away with the win…..Posted June 7, 2014 9:36 pm
Tomato Can
Jackson had this fight in the bag, but he got too careless and paid the price. This isn't the first time I've seen Lee pull out a fight that he was losing. There's something to be said for that, but man he takes a lot of punches.Posted June 7, 2014 9:34 pm
Was a good contest ……..For Jackson was allover Lee for most of that fight ……..Posted June 7, 2014 9:31 pm
Tomato Can
Nice right hook by Lee. That goes to prove you can never count someone out tell it's over.Posted June 7, 2014 9:29 pm
Andy Lee geeeettting tagged ..its over and Leee comes back to win by ….way of stoppage ….lol im eating my words alright ..Posted June 7, 2014 9:26 pm
BTW, the first fight hasn't even started yet but I bet there will be a rematch! LMAO.Posted June 7, 2014 9:03 pm
Cotto's gonna prove tonight that he is not past his prime. Poor bstrd has been robbed of his career by a punk with loaded gloves. I hope he performs extremely well tonight. Both these guy's are class acts……should be a great fight.Posted June 7, 2014 8:59 pm
I like to see Cotto work that body from the very begining like he use to. That would be the key to victory.Posted June 7, 2014 8:31 pm
this is ppv? both guys are past primePosted June 7, 2014 8:21 pm