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Savant Details ROSIE iPad App (Updated)
Authorized Savant dealers will be able to resell iPads.
Update 2: (April 2, 4:30 p.m.) Savant has released an image of its iPad App, which it called the ROSIE 4i iPad App.
Savant already told us Apple's iPad will redefine home automation.
Soon, we'll know how.
The home automation manufacturer plans to go public with its ROSIE iPad app on April 5. The ROSIE iPad app will cost $9.99 at the App Store.
President Jim Carroll previously told CE Pro that Savant was designing a version of its ROSIE iPhone app specifically for the iPad. "We're going to do some pretty cool things and take advantage of the additional [9.7-inch screen] real estate," he said.
Savant offers this update on the ROSIE iPad app:
Housed in an aluminum casing, the multi-touch Apple iPad will enable users of Savant's control products to take advantage of the iPad's vast native features as well as operating as a touch panel within the Savant Systems automation environment.
The iPad will operate both wirelessly and as an in-wall or desktop device thanks to proprietary in-wall and tabletop docks currently in development by Savant that will also serve to charge the iPad's internal battery.
Savant has transformed the iPad into a portable control device capable of functionality never before envisioned for the tablet format, including compatibility with Savant's TrueImage Control with GestureTouch technology. Users can gracefully swipe images on the iPad to control lighting and other automated features in their home.
The ROSIE iPad app will be designed specifically to support the ultimate user interface — Savant's TrueImage Control, with iPhone-like GestureTouch navigation, which allows you to touch or swipe actual images of your home to turn on/off (or dim) lights, lower or raise shades, or even turn on and off home theater vignettes.
Savant ROSIE 4i iPad App
It appears that authorized Savant dealers will be able to resell iPads after purchasing them from Savant, based on the company's status as an Apple Authorized Reseller and part of Apple's Proprietary Solutions Provider Program.
Savant founder Robert Madonna will visit several U.S. markets to demo ROSIE iPad control app for authorized dealers. The tour kicks off at Savant's NYC Experience Center on April 5 and hits San Francisco, Dallas, Los Angeles, Denver, Boston and Washington before concluding in Miami on April 15.
Madonna is expected to give updates on the availability of the ROSIE iPad app and address authorized dealers' ability to resell iPads during the tour.
Savant authorized dealers attending Madonna's ROSIE iPad app demonstration will each receive one iPad. Craig Spinner, Savant director of marketing, didn't immediately know if the iPads will be distributed at the demonstration or shipped later.
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Savant is bringing tomorrow's innovation and technology to a home today. I know Savant will put the time, resources and immense effort that's needed to help reshape the touch panel market. Unlike other control companies, they aren't just taking an existing app and making it larger for the Ipad. They will help to redefine how the customer installer will approach a project and how an end user can better interface with their home. Good Job Savant!
Sounds like a plant to me…How are you SURE? Are you sure they will even be in business next year or could they go the way of Colorado VNet?
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Colorado VNet didn't have any customers to speak of. They put products into the market done the way They THOUGHT things should be done and ignored all standards, even the common sense practices of placement, wiring standards, and aesthetics.
Perhaps a better example to make your point would be.. "go with the biggest companies in the industry to insure they will be there" like… Tweeter etc. oh, wait a minute how about Circuit city no wait ...
The market has changed.
I have a better idea, go with a company that listens to dealers and customers and builds products they value, and want to own.
Dale, first of all the Crestron app that you are referring to has the ability to be customized however you want so there is no slam in saying that they just made it bigger because there was nothing more needed to make it work on the iPad.
Jim, what are you talking about? "
A company that listens to dealers and customers and builds products they value". Are you talking about Apple who could care less about our industry and made the iPad to sell apps and compete with eReaders. Read the article in which Apple says that Apple TV is a hobby and something they do cause its fun. They certainly don't care about Savant except for how many OS they sell.
Are you talking about Savant cause they don't make the iPad, and in fact they don't make much of anything that has value. Their stuff is expensive and nothing more than a bunch of black boxes with apple computers in them. Come on, you can't make your own graphic engine for your tp that work on Flash so you create an Apple cpu farm in a closet to run your bulky monitors?
BTW, Savant is a hobby for the owner just like Apple TV is a hobby for Apple. Either company or both could pull the plug at anytime.
Lastly, your example is flawed as Circuit City hasn't been the biggest in many years. Both Best Buy and Wallmart have crushed Circuit for over a decade before they went away, and Tweeter is not even a point of discussion. That being said, Crestron is the largest company in Automation and they are spending money on making the industry better and coming out with products that are relevant so yes, go with the biggest companies to ensure that they are there.
I would love to sell my customers Savant, but the Distributor here in Dallas wont even return my phone calls or emails. I have no clue on what any of it will cost me or my clients. I haven't got a person on the phone yet. If I would have had a response 2 months ago, I could have sold 4 of these systems. But Nothing.
Looks like this product is a winner, NOT.
I have watched this thread develop with great interest. I am a Savant dealer located in Dallas, TX. First of all Tim, Savant dealers enjoy a direct relationship with Savant itself and are not distributed at all. Perhaps you simply calling the wrong people? I have spoken many a time with my Savant rep and other factory people well past the midnight hour and even on weekends. To say that Savant is not responsive is simply untrue and unfair.
I am not unfamiliar with the Crestron app and some of its specific capabilities. However, the iPad is a very different animal from the iPhone and possesses unique strengths not found on its smaller sibling. If an app can simply be resized to fully leverage the iPad's talents, why then did companies such as ABC, ESPN, NPR, USA Today, the New York Times, Ebay, Cisco, Twitter, and Yahoo all spend time and money developing an iPad specific app when an iPhone app already existed? The answer is simple: an iPhone app will work on an iPad but does not take full advantage of what an iPad can do and all of these companies wanted their customers to have the benefit of a better experience when using the iPad. Savant is no different in this respect. Savant recognized the iPad as being a more sophisticated platform and developed an app to take full advantage. Crestron, obviously, did not and decided to leave the experience in the hands of their dealers.
One does have to question the value proposition of spending enormous amounts of money required to customize a touch screen that only costs $500.00 to begin with. But, Crestron has never represented a value proposition…it is simply more expensive.
In many respects, Crestron is a lot like GM. General Motors also was once the biggest company in the automotive industry creating unimaginative and mediocre products. Savant has simply brought innovation to an industry desperately needed new life. Savant's products are not just simply black boxes with mac mini computers inside. I would suggest that you experience a system first hand before commenting on what a system will or will not do. Any system…not just Savant.
These are my two cents. I would appreciate hearing any constructive feedback.
I spoke with the Savant AV people at the main office this morning, they were more than happy to point me in the right direction and get the Dealer to contact me. What I meant by distribution is that I was not buy directly from Savant, rather through one of its 3rd party Dealers/Distributors. While it was an Arduous task, I got contact finally. The Emails were being re-routed into my junk folder, which clears on a daily basis. Lets hope this product lives up to its hype and this was just a fluke.
David, you obviously are unfamiliar with the Crestron app cause if you were then you would know that you can customize the app like any Crestron touch panel which means if you want a weather feed then fine, monitor your camera's with no problem, and change the icons, quantity, color, and anything else just the way that you want. If it is 100% customizable then what needs to be changed for it to adapt to the
"ipad's talent"? The other companies you mentioned sell canned applications which do not take advantage of the larger space and are limited hence the change.
Your ignorant comments regarding the cost of the ipad and the cost of Crestron proves that you have no idea what you are speaking about. First of all you don't make any money selling an ipad which is why you need to be able to make money selling the programming. Go ahead and continue to not charge enormous amounts of programming to customize a $500 ipad and see where that gets you. And, the Crestron hardware costs less then Savant so again you have no idea what you are speaking about.
As far as unimaginative and mediocre products look at the recent article on ce pro about all of the awards that Crestron won and yet Savant didn't win anything. You can have an opinion, but your opinion is not shared by our industry.
I have experienced Savant and I do not see anything creative about using a computer platform to control something. It's been done forever and is not new. What they have done is used the strength of Apple and Flash to make GUI's that are apealing to those in our industry who are used to constantly seeing stale graphics on their Control 4, URC, RTI, Elan, Crestron, AMX, Niles, and the list goes on and on. The reality is most customers who would spend the money on a Savant system or Crestron system want the simplicity of a control system and not the flashy graphics and home image hype stuff.
Above is the response to your opionion. Here is your constructive feedback. Stop trying to be different just because someone tells you to and you think it's cool. Instead look at what successful people and businesses around you are doing, look at who has the best support, look at who has the most projects out there, and jump in. You differentiate yourself by your company and your solutions and offerings, not by the products. That being said the products can either make or break your company if they don't work, aren't appealing, aren't supported, etc.. Best of luck to you!!
Of course Crestron has won the Award, Of Course they have more products out on the market than Savant. On top of that, who cares if it is computer based… What do you think that control box from Crestron is, A tape machine? Its also a computer, albeit a proprietary machine that requires proprietary parts to fix.
Its all about ease of use, compatibility, and ease of integration. No house is identical, therefore you can't come up with one product that is the perfect fit for all. You have to adapt. The future is with installers who have a broader range of products which WORK TOGETHER. An interface such as the iPad allows us to tie multiple items and control protocols onto one device, not a dedicated touch pad that just does Crestron or AMX commands, but one that allows you to read a book, turn on the lights, open the front door, look at your security camera, and maybe order pizza from the local pizza place, all on one hand held device. While its not perfect, these control companies have the right idea and are embracing the technology by developing apps to work seamlessly in the system together. Lets hope more like this is yet to come.
John, first of all I am not ignorant nor do I simply sell systems that I think are cool or different simply for the sake of being so. You derogatory comments are both unprofessional and uncalled for. I think we can respectful argue on merit without resorting to name calling or baseless accusations.
If I understand you argument, you are saying that Crestron is better because (1) it is completely customizable, (2) it provides more programming fees for you, and (3) everybody else is using it. Have I got this right? Let's address these point by point.
Customization: Customization is not a bad thing. I do understand that you can change every button (both size and shape), every background skin, and the "flow" of the iPad app within Crestron's programming environment. However, to create something complete unique and not "canned" (your words) requires both time and money.
The average Crestron with which I have been involved typically requires around $15,000 (or more) in programming fees. Break this down into a time component and you will find this reflects around 4 weeks of programming time. I am assuming $100/hour programming time and 35 hours per week actual work done. At this level, most Crestron dealers use the stock or "canned" templates provided by Crestron itself. True customization can be much more expensive.
I can have the same project up and running in less than 5 programming days. Using the same cost assumptions, this makes my programming fee less than $3500.00; significantly more affordable to the end user.
What is truly important here is the quality of the experience. Can the client use the system effectively and easily. Savant definitely accomplishes this goal even with its "canned" application. By the way, every iPhone I have seen looks pretty much the same and functions identically. None are unique nor are they "customized." I highly doubt that average people really care that their iPhone looks and feels the same as everybody else's iPhone. They just want it to work. Customization for the sake of being unique or creating fees is not a good thing.
Cost: We have already touched on overall programming fees so I am not going to regurgitate here. What needs to be mentioned is that the cost of developing a "canned" app has already been factored into the purchase price of the app itself. Ebay, I am sure, spent numerous hours (and money) developing their iPad specific app. It is already on iTunes. Various people were involved in the apps creation incuding programmers, graphic designers, engineers, and managers. All of these people were charged with delivering the best possible experience to their customers. The customer doesn't care that their Ebay app is exactly the same as everyone else's Ebay app.
The same can be said for almost every other company mentioned including Apple, Savant, Cisco, Disney, etc.; you would be wise to read "Who moved my Cheese" by Spencer Johnson. This book deals with the aspect of change in business and the process of adaption to that change.
Consider the Guttenberg bible. Before the printing press, monks had to hand write each copy of the bible in order to share. Guttenburg created a printing press allowing the bible to be copied more cheaply and quickly. This, of course, increased bible circulation throughout Europe.
Crestron systems are similar in that you have to hand program each one. They are time intensive and expensive. Savant has created a process by which systems may be installed and programmed more quickly and less expensively. If your business model cannot handle selling a $500.00 no profit iPad without adding excessive programming fees, then maybe you need to find a new business. I would suggest you look at Novell Networks…remember them. They too are lot like Crestron is today.
(3) Everybody else is using it too: So what!!!! Innovation always challenges the conventional or the normal. At one time, everybody rode on horses or walked; now we have cars. At one time, woman couldn't vote; now they can. The list is endless here.
Your absolutely correct in that you differentiate yourself through your solution and not the specific product offerings. Savant's solution is different in that allows me to install more of them more efficiently. How does Crestron make you different? Oh yes, that is right, it allows you to simply add more fees.
I am not anti Crestron. Crestron systems can be very reliable and very easy to use. However, please do not say that they are less money than other solutions out there. At worst, Savant and Crestron both offer hardware platforms that are comparably priced. It is what happens after the hardware that makes each company different. I am arguing that what has been done on the past with regards to home automation systems and their respectful costs of ownership is now changing. Companies such as Control4 and Savant are challenging the status quo. Arrogance and a reluctance to change will lead to some companies demise just as it has with GM.
John, I don't think anyone is denying that Crestron is a successful company and therefore isn't a factor in this sector. Personally, I give credit to where credit is due. My comment about the App wasn't meant to be targeted at Crestron. I was suggesting that in general other control companies are not putting the necessary efforts in designing a new app to differentiate themselves in how they interface with this new device. Did I even mention the name "Crestron"?
As defensive as you are about this whole thing it would appear that you are very close to the Crestron group than what meets the eye, in my opinion. I have a lot of respect for the Crestron integrators. I believe that it's because those guys and the other 1000's of integrators selling other control systems is what keeps the motor going. In light of the economic challenges, however, I am sure that many have opened their doors to alternative solutions that embrace this technology movement. That being said, I know that there are many control groups trying to change or improve their model to accommodate for current market conditions. Savant, in my opinion, is ahead of the pack with that identity. I realize that Crestron and others are working fast to address the convergence taking place in our industry. I just believe the biggest difference is that Savant's platform was developed in this era giving them a large head start while many control companies are having to do major overhauls to catch up to the pack.
At the end of the day, it's all about pushing the technology envelope. In this case, Apple's Ipad is opening doors to advance control and integration. Tim's points are spot on. Savant's direct relationship with Apple does lend itself to endless potential. That being said, I'm sure we will see developments from other control groups as they integrate the Ipad into their system. For now, however, this is the first unveiling of a true integration with Ipad that I have seen.
In reading each post there seems to be a lot of analogies stated to compare big company verse a smaller company. There is no denying the Crestron is a bigger company. In saying that, I would offer up this analogy; PC and Apple. Who is has shown growth even during an down turn in the economy? Who is gaining market share and who is losing it?
In closing, I hope that everyone keeps this industry on it's toes and I don't mean just manufacturer's but also the integrator's. As long as we are pushing technology to it's limits I believe it will benefit everyone. The more advancements offered the more reasons for an end user to spend money. I hope you would agree with that?
Tim, I have no idea what you were thinking when you wrote your response. I won't even respond to the first paragraph as you don't make any sense and clearly didn't pay attention to what I was saying.
Your comments in the second paragraph completely contradict themselves. If it is all about ease of use, compatibility, and ease of integration then what is easier then having a product line that was all designed to work together? I don't get the 1 product that is perfect for all. This isn't a Swiss army knife that we are talking about, it is a product line of several thousand items which were all made to work together and provide unlimited solutions many of which are unique and are not even options from other companies. " The future is with installers who have a broader range of products which WORK TOGETHER", no actually that was the past. Crestron and AMX who started this Automation segment used to be nothing more than control systems that controlled everyone else's equipment, but the problem was an integrator had to be an expert at the thousands of different products that exist and being able to make them all talk to each other. You can still use these brands like that, but it is not easier. BTW, ask any business consultant and they will tell you that it is better to be narrow and deep with your brands then to be wide and shallow. This is basic business fundamentals.
Everything you say next about the iPad is completely wrong. First of all it is not easier to have one device that has multiple control protocols on it. So I should have my Lutron app for my lights, my Speakercraft app for my audio, my control app for my TV's, my security app for my security, and my dvr app to view my camera's? It is nice to have apps for things like ordering a pizza, etc but since you don't write the apps, you don't have control over the experience that the app is going to give to your customer so what happens when their pizza app has a bug that causes their iPad to reset which happens to be the same device which controls their whole house? Bad customer experience and it's your fault because you told them it could do EVERYTHING. I'm sure they will love to make an appointment at the Genius Bar to figure out why they can't control their TV. BTW, the Genius at Apple will tell them that it is a problem with the app and that they need to call the developer because they are not responsible for it.
"While its not perfect, these control companies have the right idea", what control company is that, Apple? They could care less about the automation industry. Have you ever seen a Savant system inside of an Apple store? No! Otherwise, Savant and Crestron have done the same thing in regards to the iPad and that is to create an app that controls their product. I can read a book, turn on the lights, open the front door, and order a pizza all from my iPad which has my Crestron app, however I wouldn't do it because as you mentioned before this needs to be easy and if you have used an iPhone or iPad as a control device you will soon realize that just because it can do it doesn't mean it was easy or that you should. Good luck in your Savant endeavor, perhaps you should be more open minded and see what the best products out there can do instead of what the flashiest ones can.
David, the points were 1) Savant isn't doing anything different then what Crestron has done already with a customizable app the only difference being that Crestron didn't have to remake the app just because it was going on the iPad cause what they created for the iPhone can be customized for either product.
2) I don' t make money selling iPad's so I want to be able to make money programming them to work with a product. You used a very exaggerated example of programming an entire system, not in programming the iPad as a control solution. I can program an iPhone, or iPad with nice graphics and control of my whole house in about 4-6 hours which based on your $100 an hour means I make approximately $500 for selling a $1,000 iPad control solution. Is that not fair?
3) Its proven, many use it because it works and is reliable, and our industry continues to recognize the new solutions that Crestron comes out with to stay relevant. If Savant was the best new thing out there then why do they not win as many awards for their products? Why don't they have that many custom homes being showcased in the magazines and stories on line? Your experience with Crestron is clearly not comparable to your experience with Savant. Savant cost more in hardware and maybe a little less in programming, but at the end of the day I can create a more reliable solution for the same or less money than with Savant and in my design I won't be using an iPad unless the customer wants to check up on their house next time they go on vacation or are hanging out at the coffee shop.
Dale, I am defensive cause I have to sell against the crazy stuff being mentioned on this thread all the time and I just am amazed by some of the opinions on here. As integrators we need to think about what is best for our business, and our industry and the iPad is not saving the day for either.
The reoccurring point of Savant being better because it is new, different, and works on an iPad is just not accurate. This is not a true integration with the iPad. This is an app just like everyone else has. Did Savant make it so I can run my Savant control app and all of my other iPad apps from the same page making it a multi tasking environment? No, you have to launch the Savant app, then get out and launch the other apps, it's the same thing as everyone else. What has Savant done that is different? They didn't even make the foundation for which their products operate from. Are they easier and faster to program? Is that what makes them different? I know both systems and my Crestron programmer can program a system in a similar amount of time from what I've seen from Savant.
Competition is good, and I love companies that come out with cool and unique solutions. Control 4 made the on screen interface acceptable, but they also lowered the perception on what automation should be and cost which is damaging for our industry. Did it make Crestron come out with some lower priced solutions that I can now sell to more customers? Yes, which is good. Savant came out with a flashy looking interface so now when I show my nice GUI people like it more than the guy down the road who looks like Atari designed their touch panels. Is that good, yes? But do they really offer anything that I can't do at any price point with Crestron, no and that is why I will continue to support them.
John, are you actually arguing that Crestron is easy to use and a simple solution?!?!?
Crestron is an old tired company that has too many integrators, no where near the qualified programmers, and extremely dissatisfied customers. Show me ten Crestron owners and I'll show you seven people who hate it or are just unsatisfied.
Crestron is a product that degrades the moment the installer leaves the house. You want to add a media server to your house? Oops. That is going to be an additional $5000 in programming. So they end up adding it without integrating it into Crestron.
I'm an amazing programmer. I've worked in this industry for over ten years slinging Crestron code. I have walked into many a home to see a nice wireless touch panel sitting in a theater room with three other remotes next to it because the client didn't want to deal with Crestron programming.
I made my living off the Crestron platform being seriously flawed. I was hired to fix the problems of integrators who did poor jobs with crestron and we're talking about most of them. I've fixed jobs that were published in this magazine and many other magazines. If Crestron was easy then Savant wouldn't be growing in the market place. Crestron wouldn't be making deals with installers for massive discounts if they won't pick up Savant.
Lastly you obviously don't have an iPad. It isn't just a large iPod touch. It has functions that are unique, and you can't use the Crestron app to take advantage of them.
Oh and yes, there are Savant kiosks in select Apple stores.
Johnson, what you have described with upset customers exists in many industries with manufactures that have dominant market share. There are a lot of systems done by a lot of people that probably shouldn't have been dealers or acquired the equipment because the customer asked for it and they didn't know what they got themselves into. I don't believe that 70% of all Crestron customers are upset with their system. We have many customers that are very happy with their systems that we have provided them, and have been for many years. We also have many customers who contact us with the same concerns that you mention and we do our best to take care of them and turn them into life long customers.
Savant is growing because they are just starting. Of course they are growing, they don't have anything else to do but grow. It isn't about Savant being easier, it is just fresh and new so people are interested, just like people are interested in 3D right now because it is new. I don't know about the deals that Crestron is making, but I'd love to get some money for being a loyal dealer if others are.
So in all of your rant, you failed to give any of us real information that could bring value to the discussion. So since you seem to portray yourself as having an iPad before everyone else why don't you tell me what functions it has which are unique and different from the iTouch or iPhone? How does Savant take advantage of these unique functions? What stores have Savant Kiosks that I can go check out so I don't have to just see the product at a trade show or road show? You throw out a lot of opinion, but I would love to get some facts from you. Thank you!


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Dec 15, 2011 The countdown begins in Washington to come up with a budget before midnight tomorrow, and one place cuts could come from are federal student loan programs.
The co-signer's curse
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Dec 12, 2011 I co-signed a friend's private graduate student loans in 2005. She was an international student, which is why she needed the co-signer to get approved. In 2007, she had a stroke and moved home to Costa Rica. She hasn't gotten a job and taken responsibility for paying the loans since then. How can I get off of the loan agreement as a co-signer? Ryanne, Washington D.C.
Focusing on debt, but which one
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Dec 6, 2011 My husband and I have extra money each month, a healthy emergency savings account, and we save for retirement through our work plans. (I should point out we are in our 20s.) We recently bought a home and now have a mortgage of $130,000 at 4 percent interest. We also have approximately $80,000 in student loan debt for our graduate degrees at 6.8 percent interest. With our extra spending money each month, should we tackle the student loan debt first? Pay down the mortgage? Both? Or some other option? Carolyn, Duluth, MN


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This is my 1st step from mountain biking to road biking. My friends tell me i'm turning to the darkside. lol anyways I bought a Miyata 712. All i've found about them is from wikipedia:
"Miyata 7xx : A mid- to high-end road bike from the "Semi-Pro" group. Early models had Suntour parts, including an odd 3-wheel rear derailleur. Probably uses the same frameset as the 910."
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Situated in the mountains, this lodge is 6.4 mi (10.4 km) from Selvatura Adventure Park.
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Cornell swept the Central College volleyball team 25-18, 25-21, 26-24 last night in Iowa Conference volleyball action. It was Cornell's first win over the Dutch since a five-set decision in 1987 and ended a 20-match Central win streak. Dutch outside hitter Michelle Ripperger had 14 kills to lead Central who dropped to 12-4 overall and 1-2 in the Iowa Conference . Libero Chelsea Greiger a sophomore from Pella had 26 digs. Central has a tough weekend coming as they compete in the Minnesota Conference vs Iowa Conference Border Battle at Loras College in Dubuque this weekend and face three nationally ranked opponents. Friday the Dutch take on Gustavus Adolphus and No. 19-ranked St. Benedict. Saturday Central meets No. 6 St. Thomas and No. 17 Concordia-Moorhead.
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I close my eyes and pretend it's not there,
Even if I said something, no one would care.
I'm not pretty, talented or nice,
Jeez, I'm barley even liked.
I don't need anyone's help,
Let me deal with this personalhell.
I double over, and scream in pain,
But only when I'm alone, no one can see me this way.
They'll view me as weak, something I'm not,
But this pain feels like I have been shot.
I try to push it away with my mind,
It doesn't work and I'm close to crying.
I didn't cry when my hand hit the hot stove,
I didn't cry when I saw my own bone.
I've had broken limbs and tried to walk it off,
I'll just sit here and wait to rot.
Slowly, slowly, the pain fades,
And I fear I may be too late.
But if death is my future, I will meet him politely,
And probably smile at the irony.
I crawl out of my little, dark space,
And act like nothing happened, everything is in its place.
But sooner or later it will come again,
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Indee Door Print-Back by Popular DemandMonday, December 16th, 2013
INDEPENDENCE Door Print
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Just in time for Christmas, the INDEPENDENCE Door Print has been re-released due to popular demand. Only 50 prints are available, with 30 unframed for $35.00 and 20 framed for $85.00; numbers 151-199. This makes for a wonderful last minute Christmas gift! Proceeds from the door prints benefit Absolutely Indee, a non-profit organization whose mission is to organize, create and implement marketing strategies that compliment and promote community visioning designed to inform current and prospective citizens on the qualities and benefits of living in the Independence, Iowa area. Call the Independence Area Chamber of Commerce to purchase yours just in time for Christmas at 319-334-7178 or stop by the office at 112 1st St. E., Independence.
The Doors…
1) Mental Health Institute
Opened in 1873 2277 Iowa Ave
2) Baggage Room – Illinois Central Railroad Depot
Highway 150 N.
3) St. James Episcopal Church
202 – 2nd Ave NE
4) Buchanan County Courthouse
Commissioned in 1857 210 – 5th Ave NE
5) Daniel S. Lee Mansion (the home of Independence's first mayor – 1864)
817 First Street East
6) Independence Post Office
200 – 2nd Ave NE
Proceeds from the Doors project benefit Absolutely Indee.
NEW-2013 Map of Amish Country, Hazleton, IowaTuesday, August 13th, 2013
2013 Amish Country Map, Hazleton, Iowa
Amish Maps are provided by the Hazleton Commercial Club
PO Box 363, Hazleton, Iowa 50641
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2013 4th of July Parade Entry FormWednesday, April 24th, 2013
2013 4th of July Parade
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Independence Area Chamber of Commerce
Theme: Independence: There's No Place Like Home
Welcome to our 153nd Parade Celebration! Please complete and return the bottom portion of this official entry form with the applicable entry fee by Monday, June 24th to guarantee your position in the parade lineup.
The entrance fee is $10 for the first vehicle or walking group, and $5 for each additional vehicle or walking group. Please make checks payable to: Independence Area Chamber of Commerce.
All entries will be judged this year and plaques will be awarded
based on the following criteria:
Best Use of Theme
Best Decorated
Best Promotion of the City
Most Creative
Best Overall
Entries must be received by June 24th, 2013
Please return your completed entry form with your check made payable to the Independence Area Chamber of Commerce:
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Keep the above portion for your records – Return the bottom portion.
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1. Parade officials will inspect all entries and reserve the right to eliminate any entry that is in violation of these rules.
2. The 2013 Parade will start from City Hall and end at the Buchanan County Fairgrounds. Line-up will start along 4th Avenue NE on the west side of St. John's Church at 6:00 a.m. Entrants should be in the line-up no later than 8:00 a.m.—the parade will begin promptly at 9:00 a.m.
3. Once your entry has started along the parade route, no one may board your float.
4. Cover all open wheels for safety (so marchers cannot snag clothing or be pulled under wheels).
5. Your entry may not exit the parade route before the end of the parade.
6. No alcohol is allowed. Independence Open Container law will be strictly enforced.
7. For public safety, nothing may be thrown from your entry—candy, eggs, water balloons, super soakers, or other objects. Candy and/or small gift items may be handed out along the parade route.
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Standard Bank is one of the leading participants in the Rand and African currency markets with on the ground presence in 17 countries in Africa. Providing 24 hour coverage, the bank is uniquely positioned to provide African FX to the globe and this strength can now be delivered directly to institutions via FIX connection. Richard de Roos, head of FX said "FIX connectivity allows us to deliver our specialist FX capabilities enabling partners to access African countries and benefit from our deeply rooted relationships and insights on the African continent."


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Two dedicated professionals strike a mutually beneficial deal for him to pose as her boyfriend at an elaborate family Christmas celebration in exchange for introducing him to her influential father. MR. DECEMBER (4.5) by Heather MacAllister provides exciting protagonists and rapid-fire dialogue. Humor, spicy scenes and a variety of outrageous secondary characters combine into great reading.
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The 13 Gayest Items in the SkyMall Catalog
By Neal Broverman
This absolutely horrendous "Mademoiselle Haute Couture" floor lamp would go perfect in your gay uncle's over-the-top Fort Lauderdale timeshare or maybe as an ironic conversation piece for the hipster in your life.
For every gay man and lesbian who found true love in the feline form, of which there are thousands, if not millions, a cat rug is the perfect reminder of their life decisions.
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Concerned about laser pointers? Want them used safely?
Welcome to LaserPointerSafety.com. We are an independent resource for users, regulators, pilots, media and others concerned with handheld portable lasers.
While laser pens are useful and fun, they are all too often misused. This website has details about why you should never aim laser pointers at aircraft, as well as news, the latest statistics on aircraft incidents, a FAQ, a video from the FAA and Air Force, how to report incidents, laser safety glasses for pilots, and much more information. Check the menu at left for a complete list of our pages. For the latest updates to the site, see our What's new page.
A helicopter being deliberately targeted by a laser pointer. The light is a distraction and, if bright enough, can cause temporary flashblindness. A video of the incident is here.
Public domain photo from the U.S. FAA, showing how a laser beam spreads over long distances and can fill the windscreen. The FAA's highest-resolution version is here.
This diagram shows the hazard distances of a 5 mW green laser pointer. Click to enlarge.
This diagram shows various ways to help reduce laser pointer incidents. Click to enlarge.
These colorful characters depict "Dumb Ways to Blind", a 2014 public service video
that warns the Internet generation about the many ways lasers can be misused.
Laser incident statistics
From January 1 to October 9 2015, there were 5,148 laser incidents reported to the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration. This is a significant increase over the same time period in previous years:
Based on past years' trends, this means that at the end of 2015, there could be between roughly 6,600 and 7,100 incidents. (The range is because in some years, the remaining part of the year had 1.28 to 1.37 times the number of incidents during Jan. 1 - Oct. 9.) We estimate 2015 is most likely to have roughly 6,850 incidents. This would be 176% of the 2014 total of 3,894 incidents.
The chart below shows all laser illuminations reported to the FAA, since reporting was made mandatory in 2004.
In 2014 there were an average of 10.7 incidents per day in the U.S. From January 1 to October 9 2015, there were an average of 18.3 incidents per day. Additional charts are on the page giving 2014 statistics.
For more details on 2013 incidents, such as the most common laser color, the areas that had the most reports, etc. see the webpage 2013 laser/aircraft incidents. We also have a separate webpage with historical data such as the above, looking at the rise in incidents from 2004 through 2014.
United Kingdom
In the U.K., there were 1,570 laser incidents reported to the Civil Aviation Authority in 2012. This was down 18% compared to the previous year's total of 1,911 reports, according to the Sunday Express.
A special message for laser pointer usersThere are far too many incidents where airplanes, helicopters, vehicles, athletes and ordinary citizens are harassed by laser pointer beams. It is annoying, at best. It can be unsafe if the beam gets in someone's eye or if it causes a driver or pilot to be distracted or flashblinded. You personally can get arrested and even jailed.
Plus, laser incidents create a bad image and can lead to laser pointers being banned. This has happened in a number of areas. (In New South Wales, you can be fined for possessing a laser pointer, and you can go to jail for up to 14 years for a laser assault.) There are strong calls in Canada, the U.S., and the U.K. to restrict or ban lasers.
It is really simple: NEVER aim a laser beam at an aircraft, a vehicle, or towards strangers. In other words, DON'T ANNOY PEOPLE WITH THE LASER BEAM.
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Arizona Tea Water
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Last Updated: 7/1/2009 4:16 PM
Of the flavors that we received, this seems like the most marketable of the bunch. The combination of green tea and pomegranate has been a hit, likely because of having the double whammy of being a great flavor combo and for the implied antioxidant benefits. In this case, both flavors are fairly muted, which should be expected from a product that's called "Tea Water." Both flavors can still be distinguished from the mix, but ultimately the product still drinks very much like a flavored bottled water. They've given it a very light amount of sweetener from organic evaporated cane juice and organic honey, to the tune of having only 5g of sugar per 8 oz. serving (and 20 calories). That should make it a good choice for the health conscious consumer who doesn't like artificial sweeteners. Lastly, there's a slightly acidic note to the finish, which is maybe just a tad bit too bitter for our liking. On the packaging front, there's a lot going on, with a variety of different text elements, colors, and graphics on the drink's tall label. They use a 20 oz. amber colored bottled, which serves the dual purpose of blocking light and making the product look more like a tea beverage. Still, we'd like to see a less busy label, especially since finding the flavor and purpose of the drink are rather hard with the current placement of graphic elements and text.
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Another Vegan Bakery Wins Food Network's Cupcake Wars
Another vegan bakery wows judges to win Cupcake Wars title.
Fryday: 5 Exotic Vegan Sauces to Spice Up Your Taters
It's Fryday! Five vegan, delicious, totally not boring sauces to spice up your taters
Make This: Vegan Jamocha Silk Pie
This creamy, dreamy vegan pie has all of the flavors of an Arby's Jamocha Shake, with none of the animal cruelty or guilt.
WATCH: Cesar Milan Celebrates World Stray Animals Day
In the midst of faux holidays that hold little meaning (I'm looking at you, National Fluffer-Nutter Day) April 4th calls our attention to the epidemic numbers of stray animals via
Ryan Gosling Advocates for Dairy Cows
In a letter issued on April 1st by PETA, Ryan Gosling entreats Jerry Kozak, President and CEO of the National Milk Producers Federation, to use his position to stop dehorning procedures on dairy cows.
The Immortal Jellyfish is a Wonder of Nature
Enter the oldest living animal on Earth, Turritopsis nutricula, also aptly known as the immortal jellyfish, to take us to school on living a long, prosperous life.
Martha Stewart Promotes French Bulldog Rescue
Few women are as multifaceted and contradictory as Martha Stewart. She can create a dazzling holiday display from grosgrain ribbon and cookie cutters and survive in Federal prison. She can


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Stocks put aside US growth setbackComment on this story
London - Stock markets in Europe and Asia looked past gains by Iraqi militants and poor first-quarter growth in the United States on Thursday, with some investors raising their forecasts for a US economic bounce in coming months.
A Sunni insurgency in Iraq has driven oil prices as high as $115 a barrel, threatening to raise costs for businesses around the world. Prices eased on Thursday but remain close to levels not seen since the start of 2013.
The surge in oil prices is the latest setback for a global economy still trying to get back on its feet.
In that light, Wednesday's final estimate of US gross domestic product in the first quarter was only the latest argument that the Federal Reserve will keep interest rates at record lows into next year.
Most investment houses are also much more optimistic about the future.
Some responded to the US figures by raising their estimates of second-quarter growth.
"There's a storm in the rear-view mirror, but much brighter sunshine ahead," said Kit Juckes, a strategist with French bank Societe Generale in London.
"The storm does matter, though. There is every reason to be optimistic about upcoming US data, and equally, every reason to expect policy to remain easy."
European stock markets had retreated after the US figures on Wednesday, then rebounded.
Shares in Barclays sank 3 percent, though, after New York's attorney general filed a lawsuit against the UK lender.
Longer-dated bond yields fell and the dollar suffered as funds were forced to move out the yield curve.
Investors were willing to accept just 1.26 percent to lend to Germany for 10 years.
US crude added 4 cents to $106.54 a barrel, while Brent was unchanged at $114.00.
Top of the bill in Europe was the British pound and the impact on it of a Bank of England report on financial stability.
The report is expected to provide the bank's newly founded Financial Policy Committee with a vehicle to announce more measures to curb a booming British housing market, which some worry may be overheating again, six years after the 2008 crash.
Such "macroprudential" steps, particularly if aggressive, might push back expectations of a rise in interest rates that have driven sterling 10 percent higher in a year.
"There's quite a lot of uncertainty because this is all quite new for UK assets," said Paul Robson, a currency strategist with RBS in London.
"The devil will be in the detail, but the rule of thumb is that the tighter macroprudential policy becomes, the looser conventional monetary policy can be - i.e., interest rates might not have to be raised quite as early or aggressively as they would have otherwise been."
The prospect of the Fed keeping rates low for longer encouraged equity investors, though some were cautious in case a key measure of US inflation due later Thursday surprised on the high side.
The price index for personal consumption expenditures is the Fed's favoured measure of inflation and looks likely to have reached its highest since late 2012 in May.
Most Asian markets ended in the black with MSCI's broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan up 1.08 percent.
Japan's Nikkei gained 0.3 percent and Australia 1.15 percent.
"You can make the argument that the weaker the number for Q1, the more that Q2 is going to pay back in terms of growth," said Alessandro Tentori, global head of rates strategy at Citi.
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Online House Hunter: Royal touch
YOU probably thought that even The Independent's Online House Hunter would find some tenuous royal connection for his blog today. Well, with one eye on a knighthood for services to online house hunting here are some notes about living in a Royal town…
First, there are currently only two royal towns: Tunbridge Wells and Leamington Spa. These will be joined this year by Wootton Bassett, granted Royal status in gratitude for the town's "moving and dignified demonstrations of respect and mourning". So for a truly royal home, head to any of those towns.
Take pity on the unlikely sounding, Royal Town of Sutton Coldfield, which the Birmingham Post reports lost its royal status owing to a mistake by a town clerk who, in 1887, forgot to renew the Royal Charter. However, it's hoping to reclaim it in the Queen's Diamond Jubilee year so buying a home there could be a good bet for 2012.
The Royal Burghs of Scotland were abolished in 1975 and Wales's best claim is the Royal town of Caernarfon which was made a Royal Borough by the Queen in 1963 and allowed to retain the honour when it ceased to be a borough in 1974.
There are a number of Royal Boroughs including Kingston upon Thames – the coronation place of King Athelstan in 925 and confirmed in 1909 by Edward VII. And other towns have names recognising gratitude from reigning monarchs – Bognor successfully petitioned for the suffix Regis (of the King) after George V convalesced there. Unfortunately, Bognor has probably become more famous for its apocryphal prefix following the legendary last words of the King: "Bugger Bognor".Tagged in: buying house, estate agents, mortgages, moving house, Online House Hunter, real estate, selling house
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Americans love the Bible but don't read it much, poll shows
More than half of Americans believe the Bible has too little influence on a culture they see in moral decline, yet only one in five Americans read the Good Book on a regular basis, according to a new survey.
More than three-quarters of Americans (77 percent) say the nation's morality is headed downhill, according to a new survey from American Bible Society.
The survey showed the Bible is still firmly rooted in American soil: 88 percent of respondents said they own a Bible, 80 percent see the Bible as sacred, 61 percent wish they read the Bible more, and the average household has 4.4 Bibles.
If the Bible is so commonplace in America, wouldn't its moral teachings counteract the downward trend? Almost a third of respondents said moral decline was a result of people not reading the Bible, while 29 percent cited the "negative influence of America" and one in four cited corporate corruption.
Doug Birdsall, president of American Bible Society, said he sees a reason for why the Bible isn't connecting with people.
"I see the problem as analogous to obesity in America. We have an awful lot of people who realize they're overweight, but they don't follow a diet," Birdsall said. "People realize the Bible has values that would help us in our spiritual health, but they just don't read it."
If they do read it, the majority (57 percent) read their Bibles only four times a year or less. Barely a quarter (26 percent) said they read their Bible on a regular basis (four or more times a week).
The Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and author of "The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything," said the Bible can come across as intimidating to the uninitiated.
"There's a tendency to think that if you read the Bible, you have to read it from start to finish," Martin said. "But when people do read the Bible, they don't know where to begin."
Younger people also seem to be moving away from the Bible. A majority (57 percent) of those ages 18-28 read their Bibles less than three times a year if at all.
The Barna Group conducted "The State of the Bible 2013" study for American Bible Society, using 1,005 telephone interviews and 1,078 online surveys with a margin of error for the combined data of plus or minus 2 percentage points.


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Billy Organ
Services for Mr. Organ will be 3 p.m. Sunday, April 22, at Ligon & Bobo Funeral Home with the Rev. Kevin Medlin officiating. Interment will be in Cedar Grove Cemetery. Visitation will be 11 a.m. until the service on Sunday at the funeral home.
Mr. Organ, 90, of Lebanon, died Thursday, April 19, 2012, at Southern Manor. Born in Wilson County, he was the son of the late Charlie S. and Ruby Clemmons Organ. He was a 1940 graduate of Lebanon High School and served in the United States Air during World War II. He was a member of the Lebanon Cumberland Presbyterian Church. He also was a mechanic for Eastern Airlines, and raised cats, ducks, and peacocks.
He was preceded in death by: parents; sister, Betty Jo Organ; brother, Wendell Organ; and niece, Gayle L. King.
Survivors include: sister, Bessie L. Organ Atnip of Smithville; nephews, Charles D. (Betty Jo) Atnip, John L. (Betty Jean) Atnip all of Smithville, Richard (Carla) King of Cookeville; niece, Phyllis (Ronnie) Tramel of Smithville; several great-nieces and nephews; and friend, Karen Krattinger of Lebanon.
Pallbearers will be Charles, John and Ricky Atnip, Ronnie Tramel, Richard and Eric King.
Leah Brown Tucker
Services for Mrs. Tucker were 2 p.m. Friday, April 20, at the Lebanon Cumberland Presbyterian Church with Rev. Kevin Medlin officiating. Interment was in Cedar Grove Cemetery.
Mrs. Tucker, 80, of Lebanon, died Tuesday, April 17, 2012, at the Quality Care Nursing Home. Born in August of 1931 in the Leeville Community, she was the daughter of the late Gordon Brown and Ottie Marie Lanius Brown Vaughn. She was a 1950 graduate of Lebanon High School. She and her late husband owned and operated Tuckers Sausage in Lebanon. She was an active member of the Lebanon Cumberland Presbyterian Church where she was a part of the CPW of which she had served in several offices including president. She also was very active in the Lebanon Wilson County Chamber of Commerce and also in the BPW Club where she had also served in many capacities including president.
She was preceded in death by: parents; husband of 57 years, James B. 'Jimmy' Tucker; sisters, Mary Willodeen Brown Neeley and Kathaleen Rhea Brown Morse.
Survivors include: children, James R. 'Ronnie' Tucker and Peggy (Jerry) Watson; granddaughter, Jessa (Aaron) Templeton; great-grandchildren, Kailynn and Jake Templeton all of Lebanon; brother, John (Pat) Brown of Jefferson City; and a great aunt, Frances Lanius of Lebanon.
Active Pallbearers were Aaron Templeton, Bubba Phillips, William Harris, Sam Watson, Bill Templeton, Larry Stroud, Robin York and Joe Cripps. Honorary Pallbearers were Lebanon Cumberland Presbyterian Church CPW.
Ligon & Bobo Funeral Home of Lebanon in charge of arrangements.


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Several Santa Rosa residents faced off in court Tuesday against Union Pacific Railroad and JDS Uniphase, companies they contend tainted their wells with potentially cancer-causing chemicals.
?The evidence will show how their business practices contaminated the environment, how it contaminated the groundwater and how it entered the defendants? wells,? attorney Joseph Gonzalez of Westlake Village said in opening statements in a civil trial in Sonoma County Superior Court.
Gonzalez blamed at least part of the pollution to land owned by Union Pacific on Frances Avenue and to chemical barrels from Optical Coating Laboratories, Inc., found at that property and an adjacent parcel.
OCLI became part of JDS Uniphase in 2000.
Defense attorneys, however, contended the problem was caused by two dry cleaning establishments in the immediate neighborhood, which is a half mile from the Frances Avenue site.
?The plaintiffs drinking water wells were contaminated; it?s just that they were contaminated by the dry cleaners,? said attorney John Barg of San Francisco, who was representing Union Pacific.
Barg said that the Union Pacific property was badly contaminated by metal recyclers that rented it and by ?midnight dumpers? who left toxics there, but the contamination moved west, away from the affected neighborhood.
The remarks came on the first day of what is expected to be a four-month trial.
?It has been a nightmare,? said Annette Wolcott, who grew up in the West College Avenue house her father built and had to rely on bottled water for two years before getting connected to city water.
Wolcott is one of 32 residents of the eight homes in that neighborhood where the wells were discovered in 2000 to be severely contaminated.


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Have you bought your elk tag, scouted your game management unit and sighted in your rifle? If not, its time: An estimated 280,000 elk are out in the Colorado wilderness as rifle season gets underway starting Oct. 12.
Preparation for elk hunting season is a lengthy process, and once youre out in the field, you want to stay on point and not miss your trophy or shot.
Colorado Parks and Wildlife hosted an Elk 101 class this week in Denver, taught by statewide outreach coordinator Jim Bulger. Whether youre a veteran or a hunting novice, its always wise to take up free advice, right?
Successfully hunting elk is a challenging endeavor for even the most seasoned hunter, Bulger said. They require a different skill set for hunters than deer or pronghorn. My effort is to provide a foundation for novice hunters to begin to build a new set of skills and add a few more tools to their big game tool box.
Read on for Bulgers tips on how to prepare for the elk season this fall and winter.
Get in shape
Think you dont need to be in shape for hunting? Think again. Hunting generally at high altitudes above 7,000 feet is one of the tougher physical activities out there.
Gutting, skinning and quartering a 600- or 700-pound bull at 11,000 feet will take every ounce of effort you can muster, Bulger said.
Consider starting a workout regimen consisting of distance running, hill repeats, and core and arm exercises and follow these tips as you head to the mountains:
To acclimate, arrive at your hunting area a couple of days before hunting season begins.
Drink (water). Carry water purification tablets so you can refill your bottles at creeks. Limit alcohol it causes dehydration.
If you experience severe headaches or find it difficult to breathe, move to a lower altitude as soon as possible. These symptoms could be signs of pulmonary edema or cerebral edema.
When hunting, move slowly and stop to rest often. Accidents are more likely to occur when you are tired.
If you are feeling tired, and you are far from camp, unload your gun before continuing to walk.
Discuss any health issues with your hunting partners.
Many hunters drew their licenses in April for Game Management Units 19 and 20 near the Poudre Canyon or Unit 191 by Red Feather Lakes, but you can still purchase an over-the-counter bull tag, which allows you to hunt virtually anywhere from a selection of 92 units during the second and third rifle seasons.
General over-the-counter, or OTC, big game licenses are available for purchase online at www.co.wildlifelicense.com/start.php, or by phone at (800) 244-5613. They can also be purchased locally at license agents, such as Jax Outdoor Gear, 1200 N. College Ave.; Sports Authority, 425 S. College Ave.; and at the Fort Collins Colorado Parks and Wildlife office, 317 W. Prospect Road.
Suggested Game Management Units
Steamboat Springs GMUs
These OTC licenses are available for the second and third rifle seasons, with dozens of area GMUs as an option. Here are a couple of OTC suggestions from Bulger in the Steamboat Springs area:
GMUs 3/301: An OTC unit in the second and third rifle seasons and a monthlong limited-license cow elk season in December, these units provide a number of choices for the hunter. A benefit of the monthlong late season in the unit is it allows for some flexibility for the hunter with weather, work schedule and family time.
GMU 14: Located north of Steamboat Springs, 95 percent of this unit is public land, and it offers good elk hunting in various parts of the unit. Hunters might find good potential by scouting the Gunn Creek, Upper Soda Creek, Mad Creek and Big Creek drainages. The unit holds the most promise for the hunter who is willing to do some scouting and leave the main roads.
Laramie River GMUs
If you did get a license in the draw, heres some information from the 2013 CPW Big Game Planner about the popular Laramie River GMUs in Larimer County, which include 7, 8, 9, 19 and 191:
These units range in elevation from 4,921 feet along the eastern edge of Fort Collins to 12,795 feet, covering much of the northern part of the Arapaho and Roosevelt National Forests. The higher elevation portions in the west experience an abundant snowfall. The majority of elk in this area winter at elevations between 7,000 and 9,500 feet. A large portion of the elk herd in the northern GMUs, winter along the Colorado/Wyoming state line, and are often not in Colorado during the winter months. Elk in GMU 9, which is the eastern-most unit, rarely venture east into the shortgrass prairie community but rather stay in the mixed ponderosa pine/mountain mahogany complexes along the north-central parts of that area.
Source: Colorado Parks and Wildlife
Know the terrain
Once you know where youre hunting, narrow down the GMU to a couple of 6- to 8-square-mile plots. If you werent able to check out the elk country during the summer, it is strongly suggested that you go to give yourself at least a day of scouting the area prior to the season opening. Purchase all the maps you can get your hands on. These include topographic U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management maps. From there, you should learn all you can about elk:
Consider their patterns, habits and habitat.
Talk to as many people as you can, including area biologists, district wildlife managers, Forest Service biologists/managers, and hunters at the local coffee shop or diner near where you would like to hunt. Hunters might not give away their secrets, but you might be able to pick up something useful.
Understand what elk do in response to hunting pressure, and use that knowledge to your advantage when planning your hunt. Go where others are not willing to go.
In general, the farther away you are from roads, the better the elk hunting should be.
Keep this in mind when you have to pack out the boned meat of a 500- to 750-pound elk: Are you willing to hunt more than 3 miles away from your main camp or road?
Elk are most active at dawn and dusk. You should be at your hunting stand at this time, which can mean walking for more than an hour in the dark to get in or out.
Know the animal
In Colorado, hunters mistakenly kill moose believing they are elk annually.
Moose sometimes can be found in the same habitat as elk. Elk hunters must clearly identify an animal before shooting. Use your binoculars, not your scope, to make a positive ID.
Dont just look at the animals antlers, study the entire head and body before you shoot.
Watch out for calves: Be careful not to mistake a moose calf for a cow elk. Young moose have a reddish coat, similar to elk.
Elk often are a reddish, lighter brown with darker legs. The neck is chestnut brown, the rump is pale yellow, and there are obvious brow tines coming off the main beam and antlers that arent palmated.
Moose are much larger with dark, black-brown bodies, white-gray legs and a larger bell (beard) on the throat. They have an overhanging, bulbous nose; a pale yellow rump; and palmated antlers with tines.
Source: Colorado Parks and Wildlife
Hunter education
Anyone born on or after Jan. 1, 1949, must have completed an approved hunter education course sanctioned by a state or province before applying for or purchasing a license. Colorado honors hunter education courses from other states and provinces. You must present an original hunter safety card when buying a license (unless previously verified) or enter the required information when applying by mail or online. All hunters must carry their hunter education card while hunting unless a V is printed on the license, which indicates hunter education has been verified at a Wildlife Service Center.
Hunter education courses are available online at www.wildlife.state.co.us/Hunting/HunterEducation/CourseCalendar/Pages/HECalendar.aspx.
Got your orange?
Hunters are legally required to wear at least 500 square inches of solid daylight fluorescent orange material in an outer garment above the waist while hunting deer, elk, pronghorn, bear or moose with any firearm license. Part of the fluorescent orange must be a hat or head covering visible from all directions. This includes archery hunters who hunt during rifle season. If using a ground blind or pop-up blind, hunters should display orange that is visible from all directions on the outside of the blind.
Camouflage orange does not qualify. Mesh garments are legal, but not recommended. CPW strongly recommends wearing daylight fluorescent orange clothes in the field, even if youre not hunting. Wearing orange is for hunter safety, big game animals dont see orange like we do. Movement, sound and smell are what give hunters away.
Where to buy an over-the-counter hunting license
Fort Collins license retailers
Colorado Parks and Wildlife office, 317 W. Prospect Road
Walmart, 4625 S. Mason Street
Kmart, 2535 S. College Ave.
Active Arms, 5740-A S. College Ave.
Stout Market, 4025 W. Larimer County Road 38E
Jax Outdoor Gear, 1200 N. College Ave.
Sports Authority, 425 S. College Ave.
Walmart Supercenter, 1250 E. Magnolia Street
Hunter's checklist
Be sure to leave information about where youll be hunting and camping, license plate numbers, and cellphone numbers with folks at home.
Here are a few common items hunters should remember to pack into the backcountry:
First-aid kit, sunscreen, toilet paper
Compass and maps
Flashlight, lantern, extra batteries
Rain gear
Knife sharpener, bone saw, game bag
Blaze orange vest and cap
Extra fuel for a camp stove
Tire chains
Cleaning supplies, trash bags, shovel
Water bottles
Hunting license and hunter education card
List of family/friends phone numbers
Souce: Colorado Parks and Wildlife
Colorado rifle seasons
First season (separate limited elk): Oct. 12-16
Second season (combined deer/elk): Oct. 19-27
Third season (combined deer/elk): Nov. 2-10
Fourth season (combined limited deer/elk): Nov. 13-17
Xplore reporter Stephen Meyers covers the outdoors and recreation for the Coloradoan. Follow him on Twitter @stemeyer or Facebook.com/meyersreports.