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HU Podcast #48: Everything From Here to There 5:19 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009Posted by chris in criticism, efhtt.com, pitchfork, podcast, stereogum.
We have an unprecedented two podcasts for you this week. In the first, we discussed Billy's new website and how it was received.
Later in the week, we talk all about the announcement of Teargarden by Kaleidyscope and what it means for Smashing Pumpkins fans over the coming months and years.
Listen to the whole show (50:13)
This week's topics:
-Chris, Jason, Jill, and Andrew
-Billy Corgan debuts EverythingFromHereToThere.com, and we wade through its posts, be they insightful or psueudoscientific, to try to get to the bottom of what he hopes to accomplish with the site. (23:34)
-Billy's recent collaboration with Dave Navarro did not merit a mention by the music blogosphere, but the new website garnered its fair share of ridicule. We discuss the disparity in coverage and talk about why we care how the band and Billy Corgan are covered. (20:20)
Song of the Week
-If All Goes Wrong, Asheville, NC July 2, 2007
Keep a lookout during the next day or two for our second podcast of the week.
- 1. drbenway - 5:49 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Good observations about bias re: Pitchfork, Stereogum, etc.. Sharp stuff.
- 2. Matt Sevrens - 5:51 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
The second part about pitchfork and everything is brilliant. This needs to be on the smashingpumpkins homepage. You hit it right on the head. Is there a way I can send this there?
- 3. drbenway - 5:54 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
I think it should be sent to Pitchfork.
- 4. Smiling Politely - 6:02 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Whenever they don't cover something everyone here should just mass email them info all about it haha.
- 5. drbenway - 6:16 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
"Whenever they don't cover something everyone here should just mass email them info all about it haha."
That's not a terrible idea. I've never been a proponent of mass-email-bitching, but just sending them news stories sounds pretty pro-active.
NOTE: I am not a pro-active person, so I'll just wait here and sporadically shout encouraging remarks to those HUers who are.
Ooooh my god… ReCAPTCHA: is everyone ready for this one?
excluded taint.
- 6. Smiling Politely - 6:34 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Lets do it next time then, I'm down.
I can just imagine the headline: "Hugely Over-Obsessive Smashing Pumpkins Fans Unite to Inform Us of Their God Billy's Embarrasing New Tour"
- 7. Scott - 7:40 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
You know, I have been in a friendly war of words with a reader on the Chicago Sun Times blog for Jim DeRogatis, who has been shamelessly bashing Corgan continuously for any and everything he can think of. I have often written thart Billy Corgan is simply not treated fairly in the press and this reader just thinks all is well and Billy is getting what he deserves, quit possibly. I appreciate this podcast bringing to light what I have felt for a long time.
Here's what I wrote…(please forgive the length)
"During the overwhelming e-mails that came through on this blog during last fall's controversial Pumpkins concerts, I weighed in by claiming my disatisfaction with the fact that Billy Corgan will always be viewed differently than his musical peers in a disheartening fashion.
1. He is never to be taken seriously yet he is held to an impossible standard. He is a musician who has contnued to move forwards on his musical journey, a trait we should be celebrating but he is dismissed as someone who hasn't written a good piece of music since "Siamese Dream." But if he had repeated the "Siamese Dream" formula, he would have easily and long-ago have been dismissed as a hack. It's a trap from which he will never escape.
2. He is constantly being referred to as an egomaniacal tyrant who alienated all of the original band members thus negating any validity with the band's reunion. While the band's inner turmoil is legendary, no one but those four people know the complete picture and to continue to weigh in on that is futile. To suggest that the non-participation of James Iha and D'Arcy contributed to the supposed "lack of quality" with recent material is laughable as well. Honestly, and with no intended disrespect, what did D'Arcy contribute to the earlier material? I love James Iha but I feel that his musical heart is with the work he created for his solo album and the like-minded musicians with whom he has collaborated since. Why should he go back to a situation that may have been unhealthy for him? For the fans?! Besides, James and D'Arcy were asked, they refused, end of story. They didn't want to be a part of the reunion. It's their right. Who could blame them? "Big Bad Billy" isn't keeping them from anything. They refused. The past is the past and it is never coming back. Should the original band have reformed and heartlessly toured like The Pixies, who are obviously cashing in and not wanting to be there?
3. Again, Corgan's feet continue to be held to the fire on the reunion and even continuing to use the name even though he is the only original member remaining. This is commonplace in rock music yet when Corgan does it, it's just wrong. If changing band members, breaking up and reforming were out of bounds, then there would be no Wilco and Pink Floyd should have ceased to exist once Syd Barret walked out of the door. Just let Corgan work with like-minded people in a productive environment, letteh music speak for itself and let him use the name. It is obviously his badge of honor and identity.
4. And now, this ridiculous post concerning the recent news of the upcoming new album. If critical darlings Radiohead or good Lord, Jack White made this exact same announcement, people would be falling all over themselves to see who could praise them the loudest and the quickest. To find fault with spending several years to create an album, and releasing it in pieces FOR FREE no less shows that there will never be any objectivity and fairness for Billy Corgan as far as DeRogatis is concerned. Even the odious Pitchfork is keeping an open mind about the new album and that's saying something. If DeRogatis isn't even going to try, then don't bother. His spitefulness is embarrassing."
Here's what the reader wrote back to me…
"@ Scott –
I admire your passion, but I don't think Billy's being treated unfairly. He is a negative-attention seeker and often creates his own conflicts in order to pull himself out of them.
Have you ever watched How I Met Your Mother? There's a great ratio scale that one of the characters uses to determine how hot a girl has to be in proportion to how crazy she is. There's a similar scale I like to use for musicians: how crazy s/he is must be proportional to how brilliant his/her art is.
Billy's career is all over this chart. When the music was good, his over-the-top, confrontational behavior was redeemable by his amazing skill to bring together a great rock album. But with the reunion of the band handled clunkily, and with Zeitgeist being such a steamer, his negative eccentricities have come front-and-center. That's not a good place for them, and yes, he will be judged for them.
That is, of course, unless Teargarden by Kalideyscope blows everything out of the water. Then he can do whatever the heck he wants. Look at Kanye West. We all thought he'd jumped the shark at Live 8, or with his many different outbursts; but every time, he's hit us right back with a Graduation or 808s. Now, his little hissy fit earlier this week will cost him, but if his next record is of the caliber of his previous ones, it will be forgotten. And if Teargarden can stand up with Mellon Collie and Adore, I'll gladly overlook some of Billy's more obnoxious traits."
Thanks for reading.
- 8. purple pumpkin - 9:59 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
(I am pretty sure they still cannot build the Great Pyramid with today's technology)
I don't know how to incorporate links into text..sorry
- 9. chris - 10:09 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Here's the site I was referring to on the podcast. In it you can read more about how the pyramids were most likely built:
- 10. StuckInVain - 10:28 pm // Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Your arguments in the last part were especially provocative. I do get tired of the constant back-and-forth about Pitchfork, but I felt like your analysis of media coverage was very on-point, especially concerning the sheen of objectiveness obscuring the musical bias of many sites.
I look forward to your discussion about Teargarden.
One issue: I think the general excitement about Teargarden is based more on the hope that it will be an improvement upon Zeitgeist, and the fact that it evokes MCIS-era Pumpkins, rather than the free-bie announcement being the cause of its well-receivedness. Not that it wouldn't have ANYTHING to do with it.
- 11. purple pumpkin - 12:09 am // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
I read science daily often but I guess I missed this one. Thanks for the link though and for yet another excellent podcast. I'm a little surprised that his recent post "Jeshua, My Lord" wasn't discussed because this really took me by surprise. Does Jesus really need to be his "VIP" to send his message across? It's a touchy subject and maybe you guys are right in not discussing his posts in detail since it doesn't really pertain to SP but I find it kind of odd he speaks with psychics..kinda absurd, but what do I know.
We watched Ram Dass: Fierce Grace in my religion class today, hmm..
- 12. jjb - 2:41 am // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
This is totally pretentious, but I'm going to do it anyway…I was reading tonight from Richard Lanham's The Economics of Attention, and this relevant quote leapt out at me:
Much of what we think of as postmodern thought amounted to a revival of rhetoric, but the world of literary theory and cultural studies adopted only half of the rhetorical paideia, the search for the special interests that lie behind any argument. As often as not, these debunking inquiries have not extended to the writers themselves. "At" vision has been restricted to opponents. They use rhetoric; we only speak the unvarnished truth.
- 13. chris - 6:25 am // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@purple pumpkins: We record on Sunday nights (usually), so our discussion took place before the "Jeshua" post was made.
- 14. ifeelsopretty - 10:39 am // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Good podcast, but I'm bringing your demo age up at 41! Anyway, I think Andrew had it right – he was a man of few but succinct words. It is all in the name of the url, it is gonna cover everything from here to there… And thank god – or yahwey or whoever floats yr boat – that it is separate from SP.com.
I dip into Rainn Wilson's site about god, spirituality and life's big questions too: http://www.soulpancake.com/
- 15. tampaSPfan - 12:17 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
very good podcast. It's nice to know that SP fans are as thoughtful as the band. And I share your disregard for Pitchfork, and many other young music journalists, bad reporting habits. I had the experience of being a music director at a college radio station, and got to know many of the 'types' (at events like CMJ, Winter Music Conference, etc) that are most likely the same types that populate the 'halls' of Pitchfork. One thing I can assure you of–there are certain bands, SP definitely included, which can 'scarlet letter' you among the indie kids that form the fulcrum of that crowd. For whatever reason, and I don't think it has as much to do with quality of work as it does with visibility and the viciousness of negative momentum, certain artists and bands can easily become lightning rods and therefore themselves reference points for whether a fellow music reviewer/college radio DJ/taste maker 'gets it' or not. Just as you can throw a stone at a group of indie music promoters and hit half a dozen Pavement fans, you can do the same and hit half a dozen Pumpkin haters. It's been this way for years. I remember when Machina was on the verge of coming out, and trying to create some excitement for it at the radio station, and getting nothing but poorly educated forecasts of negativity, that as you very accurately reported on, very rarely have to do with any first hand knowledge past a limited familiarity of the SP singles played on the radio while said music aficianados were growing up. It's something I'm not sure SP will ever shake, but it is a shame, because Pitchfork has an anti-SP agenda probably ingrained in them for YEARS and they will take every opportunity to snidely spread that agenda whenever they get their chance. SP is now one in their gallery of villains, and in the narrative that Pitchfork has chosen (hell, had bred into them over their college and pre-college years) that is a more valuable role and one that won't easily be dissolved.
- 16. pins - 2:49 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Without getting too involved in the argument, I'd like to posit that your entire Pitchfork discussion can be relatable outside of the music world into the greater media/blogosphere/journalism discussions already being wagered.
More importantly, I think you're bestowing mainstream media philopshies onto pitchfork when in fact they don't exist as a traditional media source.
In a similar argument, you can look at all the political debates. Does a site like DailyKos operate on the same principles as cnn.com?
Pitchfork is extremely influential at what they do, but at their heart they're a biased, individualized blog. Have they gotten more professional as they've grown? Certainly.
And while your arguments do have valid points, until Pitchfork stops having one foot in each world, there's no way they can be truly right or wrong.
- 17. WeRideatDusk - 3:33 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Great podcast! Jason, your pitchfork discussion was great. Really enjoyed the banter back and forth in this one. The negativity directed towards the 'pseudoscience' seemed a bit small. Looking forward to the next one!
- 18. jjb - 4:23 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@pins: Don't worry, I won't try to involve you in the argument — just honored that you would listen. ;)
- 19. pins - 4:55 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Heh, you're right though. This one may be one I might have had something to say, as rare as that may be.
At this point, I just don't have much time to say it. And my comment probably left out a lot of what I was trying to say.
Essentially though, pitchfork is blog-based, but due to its size and influence, does also have some mainstream media cache…however, they don't often operate that way, in terms of being a news organization. I actually went to look for a mission statement on the site, which I couldn't find…that in and of itself says a lot.
They're just another brand of infotainment with the loosely-regulated integrities that the Internet has come to represent.
- 20. sunkissed - 5:55 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@jbb: In reference to your quote, the dominant reason why critical and literary theory has not inquired into authorial intent is because of the gross misunderstanding of the work produced by the structuralist and post-structuralist thinking that came out of European academia in the 60's and 70's. In my opinion it is unfortunate that the majority of the interesting work by those scholars has been misunderstood, as the responsibility of authors (the position of the speaking voice in language; "I") has remained vastly unrecognized or at the very least interrogated by recent academics. The hyperbole and rhetoric surrounding structuralism and post-structuralism which provided the grounds for postmodernism obscured the real work being done; the real work being the responsibility inherent in the idea of authorship, and language, and the production of the episteme which allows one to speak with authority. Somewhere along the line it was assumed that because the position which one can speak from is wholly separate from the actual person speaking, that is in order to speak one must speak through discourses, then this affords some kind of freedom to the author. This was also a reaction to the implication that anything we write, think of, and so on, is not "your own" but actually a position within discourse that orders "how" one can speak, and what one can say. It is interesting looking back at the excitement of possible "anonymity" on the internet in the early 90's, in light of all of this, because as we now see it hasn't changed the fact that for a myriad of complex reasons we still feel compelled to hold people responsible for what they say, this of course is an interesting phenomenon, the shift from "anon." to authorial responsibility that has been at work for a long time. When you mentioned in the podcast that the reviewers of music in the blogosphere may not have credentials, or the fact that we don't know "who" they are, is an interesting one, but not one which the the casual music fan seems to be interested in. These ideas of bias, subjectivity, objectivity and all that aren't really helpful because it is already assumed that writers operate within these boundaries, for one of the sites you've mentioned to come out and declare their interests like HU have, would be redundant as the sites themselves already have by the manner in which they report; the selection process they go through in order to publish what they do. On the other hand, if we feel compelled to hold internet music journalists, or bloggers, up to this "standard of responsibility" what would it take to achieve it?
- 21. Matt Sevrens - 8:24 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
a transscript of this SHOULD be sent to pitchfork
- 22. 34 - 9:45 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@jill – I hope you were making air quotes in that phrase about the New Age "Sciences". :P"
Speaking of, I heartily recommend watching thru Penn & Teller's Bullshit. ^_^ Maybe someone should buy Billy a box set…
rC: hecla Cleveland
- 23. chris - 10:09 pm // Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@34: I actually just started watching Bullshit via Netflix, and it's highly amusing even though it's a bit too confrontational to seriously change anyone's mind who doesn't agree with them.
@WeRideAtDusk: I'm not sure what you mean by "small". Are we supposed to ignore when Billy makes statements of fact for which there is either no evidence or contradictory evidence? I take the scientific process very seriously and have a lot of respect for scientists in all fields, so while all of us on the podcast pointed out that psuedoscience made up just one part of efhtt.com, I still felt obligated to mention it. Even in today's post about astrology, Billy also made reference to the current leading scientific theory on the origin of the moon. It's not all pseudoscience, but I can't just point out the insightful and ignore the uninformed.
- 24. Tyler Stoering - 1:43 am // Sunday, September 27, 2009
what was the blog that new mothers like to visit that jill mentioned?
dews.com? dues.com?
- 25. jjb - 2:45 pm // Sunday, September 27, 2009
It's dooce.com
- 26. Adam - 12:07 am // Friday, October 2, 2009
see, you guys fail to give music fans enough credit for their own intelligence.
I agree the anniversary tour coverage was complete bullshit, and it was bad 'journalism' or blogging on their part. However, I feel your average music fan/reader would be smart enough to see through it and ultimately not be influenced by the opinions of others.
you really think music fans are dumb enough to decide on what they like based on what a website told them to think? I certainly don't think so. Most often the music speaks for itself. P4k is all up deerhunters ass, for example, and I happen to think they suck, hard.
give readers of these sites some credit. p4k is not as influential as you'd like to think. that obama analogy is laughably ridiculous. and dumb. that particular tour went over well and the fans that did attend, for the most part, did not complain. And I have a handful of 'indie elitist' friends whom actually speak quite highly of SP. And a handful of them felt zeitgeist sucked, and they were able to come to that conclusion based on their own perceptions, not what they read on some indie music blog.
so there. i listened to your podcast. i honestly am intrigued by your opinions. and seriously, you do care a little too much on the perceptions of other people in relation to this band. this is not a end of world affair where the peoples lives depend on the leadership of a smart man (again, that obama quote man, yikes). but billy's music and how it is perceived by others is obviously important to you.. so good for you.
and doesn't it kinda say something about his music if the general blogsphere finds his crazy antics more entertaining than the music he is creating now? consider that in your next panel discussion. thom yorke can do some fucking nutty things too, but ultimately they're taking about his music.
but i don't know. i've always viewed it as somewhere along the line BC did something to piss these people off and they're just giving him a hard time. his mouth gets him in trouble, a lot, and he's been admitting to that since 2000. p4k not reporting on spirits? not a big deal. the show really were not that significant. Hell, thurston moore and kim gordon (they are from sonic youth in case you didn't know) did a handful of shows as mirror/dash not too long ago, and not a damn thing was mentioned about those shows.. and they are p4k darlings. some things get overlooked. the website getting attention in favor? well if you don't want things like that to happen, go straight to the source and tell him to stop putting this narcissistic crap out there, because it's making him look bad.
- 27. Adam - 12:27 am // Friday, October 2, 2009
and pitchfork, when they said i should go see pavement, my favorite band.. i said to myself.. 'well no, they're ok. but not my favorite band.'
and i'm sure a lot of other readers said the same damn thing. people don't literally take words like that, from some douche poser sitting behind another laptop in some other city and let the words decide for them who their favorite band is. people are really not that dumb, sorry to break the news to you.
again, takin' it too seriously.
- 28. John - 6:17 pm // Friday, October 16, 2009
I'm interested in Billy's new website 'Everything from here to there'
But I was not impressed that there was no place I could find to make a post or leave a comment :(.
The site is full of great abstract thoughts, and I've always been an overthinker that loves absurd possibilities, so his site fits some of my own 'crazy' thinking, ;).
Here is a sample of my thoughts without getting into details about how I found my path (my road was a very long since I never could trust anything without evidence until I tapped into something unexpectedly!).
The meaning of life is One.
To my mind, One is what is important to me in this physical life. Some can make life long goals outta their One most important thing, but I have always lacked confidence in myself, so for me, it's One step at a time.
To my body, One is being at peace with myself.
To my soul, One is being at One with everything. We are all a part of One.
Furthermore, I see good in everything. There is always 2 sides, if you can see the bad, if you look for it, good will also be present. Heaven and Hell aren't places, but rather they are perceptions. I use to live in Hell on earth, I now see the Heaven's all around me.
I use to be against all forms of religion because I only saw the literal messages that caused conflict in others, but I now see the spirtual side of all religion that can co-exist without conflict.
I still would like to see a better world for everyone, but I no longer dwell on it. We will change when we are ready. Eventually unity is inevitable, but I now realize that unity is much bigger then the world I wanted to see unite
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A group of more than fifty scientists is spending the next few days learning all they can about the mid mesozoic landscape exposed right here in the Grand Valley - and organizers say it's an honor that they chose to come here.
"It just really cool to know that the Grand Valley has these classic fossils," says Mid Mesozoic co-convener, ReBecca Hunt-Foster. "And the best fossil exposures anywhere in the world that people would fly twenty hours just to come to the Grand Junction area."
On Thursday, the group will gather at the Dinosaur Journey Museum to discuss their research with colleagues.
They will also have a poster viewing session on Thursday - open to those with a museum membership - from 9:30 - 6:00 p.m.
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Apr 25, 2008 (08:04 PM EDT)
Sneak Peek At Our Third Annual NAC Reader Survey
Read the Original Article at InformationWeek
NAC buyers and sellers are circling one another warily, awaiting the opportune moment to make a move. On the supply side, we expect vendor consolidation this year. Meanwhile, enterprises are evaluating network access control's ability to help in compliance efforts--without lost productivity or connectivity. Those are just a few conclusions drawn from our third annual survey on NAC. We received 702 total responses; final results reflect only participants involved in the decision-making process. These 471 business technology pros are interested in access control, but leery of its cost and complexity.
Even though standards as a whole evoked yawns, we saw increased interest in frameworks from Cisco Systems and Microsoft, two companies that already enjoy strong enterprise ties. Yet the NAC market boasts no fewer than 20 vendors, many of them startups, all vying for business worth $225 million in 2006, according to Gartner. That's not enough to go around, apparently--Caymas Systems closed its doors in 2007, and Lockdown Networks went bust in March. Vernier Networks, aka Autonomic Networks, is looking to get out of the NAC market.
Slowing sales aren't the whole story. The number of companies deploying NAC is down 50% from 2007, when we first asked the question. This represents a fairly typical cycle: Early adopters rush to deploy, followed by a slowdown as more conservative organizations appraise their options. The economy likely also plays a role. In a recent InformationWeek Research survey of 374 business technology professionals, 57% said their budgets are under pressure.
The news isn't all bad for NAC--more than half of respondents are evaluating or planning to deploy--yet we were interested to see that of companies with no NAC plans, 55% based that decision on concern that NAC won't improve their security stances or live up to promises. This represents a reality check: NAC is no silver bullet, and information security professionals realize that a host that passes inspection when it logs on to the network may later become malicious. More important, NAC solves a very small subset of security problems, and success depends on the architecture. In-band products tend to focus on granular network access control and application monitoring, while out-of-band systems are better at host assessment and deciding who gains admission to the network.
An even larger concern, cited by 66% of respondents not planning to deploy NAC, is productivity impact. Given the raison d'etre of NAC--disrupting network connectivity--this is a valid worry. You certainly don't want staff spending hours manually overriding access for users. In response, NAC vendors have developed fairly flexible policy-development features so IT can balance automated access control with reasonable limits. From a features standpoint, the ability to quickly and easily recover a quarantined computer or override host status varies greatly based on enforcement method.
Finally, 65% of those deploying, planning to deploy, or evaluating say it's very important that a NAC device failure doesn't compromise network resiliency. Depending on how the access control product is implemented, different methods for ensuring continuous throughput are used. In-band devices, for example, should be able to participate in Layer 2 resiliency functions in an active or passive manner, while in out-of-band setups, where the NAC appliance is the Radius or DHCP server, a combination of appliance redundancy and switch features that use multiple servers can do the trick.
IT shops don't care what standard or framework becomes dominant. In 2007, neither Cisco's NAC, Microsoft's Network Access Protection (NAP), the IETF's Network Endpoint Assessment (NEA), nor the Trusted Computing Group's Trusted Network Connect (TNC) spec broke out of single digits as a critical requirement. When we combined "very important" and "critical requirement" responses, only Cisco broke 20%. Our 2008 results don't show much of a shift. Cisco and Microsoft gained a few points in both "critical requirement" and "very important," while TNC fell, but more telling is that the number of readers expressing a preference for any industry-based framework fell from 2007 to 2008.
This isn't to say IT doesn't care about standards; it's more indicative that respondents are still in the evaluation process. A large percentage had at least heard of the frameworks and, in many cases, are actively investigating one or more of them. However, the deck is stacked against TNC in that most NAC vendors participate in Cisco's NAC and Microsoft's NAP partner programs, as do a growing number of non-NAC vendors that offer security and patch management software that also integrates with Windows. Despite the efforts of the Trusted Computing Group to get the word out about Trusted Network Connect, awareness hasn't grown since 2007.
The TCG did announce support for Microsoft's Statement of Health protocol as a TNC standard, which gives the NAP agent instant conformance to the TNC framework; however, widespread adoption hasn't occurred because Vista, which includes the NAP agent, has pretty much flopped in the enterprise, while Windows XP Service Pack 3 hasn't yet shipped.
The bright spot for standards is that 802.1x on wired networks is becoming more common as companies upgrade edge switches to current hardware and firmware. Two-fifths of respondents say 80% or better of their networks are capable of supporting 802.1x. The benefits of 802.1x in NAC is that enforcement occurs at the switch port, and computer control, including network addressing and VLAN assignment, can be dynamic and flexible. However, the percentage of networks actually using 802.1x is far lower that the number capable of supporting the standard, indicating that organizations are moving slowly.
NAC products certainly help enforce access control--at the very least ensuring that guest computers are segregated from the internal network. Systems that use in-band devices create the potential of user- or role-based firewalls to regulate which network devices and services are accessible. This is not to be confused with application access control, which is built into apps and can be fine-grained. Rather, with NAC at the server and service levels, you can set policies so that, for example, only employees can communicate with the HR portal. You don't necessarily need NAC to perform any of these functions, of course, a fact not lost on IT managers. You can get much of the segregation functionality needed to comply with today's security stances using existing technology, though the final result will be somewhat static.
The main barriers to NAC deployments continue to be cost, noted by 61% of respondents in our survey, and complexity, at 54%. Pricing for NAC products starts at $3,000 to $7,000 for software, $10,000 to $20,000 for a low-end appliance, and reaches upward of $50,000 for a high-end appliance. Annual maintenance typically runs 12% to 15% of the purchase price, plus applicable user licenses. Capital costs just to get started are daunting--and we haven't even factored in required network configuration changes or upgrades. It's a hard sell for a technology that doesn't add to the bottom line.
We hear over and over from integrators that they're called in for NAC consultations only after an organization has been successfully attacked. And of course, when you're in panicked reactive mode, it's the worst time to contemplate a technology as invasive as NAC. There are many complexities that organizations face, from simply building the policies that will define how NAC will function to implementing and integrating the chosen system. In addition, NAC products can be complex to install and subsequently modify, especially when they require changes to the physical infrastructure. The lesson: If you're sure NAC is in your future, now may be a good time to make the leap.


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There are a couple of threads discussing tarps for 2, so not to encroach on those I thought of posting some details of the Tarptent Strato Spire 1 as a tarp here.Tarp only (no stakes/stuffsack but with guylines) is about 590 g , that is 20.8 oz.The red line you see in these shots is the vestibule area .The other side is the same.Above the end of each 72" mat you have about 18" , so over 20" from ground to fly at that point. (measured to the 3 seams perpendicularly)That is sleeping top and tail.
Edited by Franco on 02/25/2013 19:26:46 MST.
Thanks Franco. Just FYI to the rest of you, you will soon be able to purchase the SS1 and SS2 fly and interiors separately.-H
Awesome to hear that Henry. Do you have an estimated timeframe?
My buddy and I used the Ss1 as a Tarp one night and where very happy with it.
Franco, do you have any pictures of the SS1 with the inner clipped in with two pads inside? I really like the footprint of the SS1 better than the SS2, but it still looks like a stretch fitting the two pads inside the SS1 inner.Then again, if Henry is selling the tarp and inner separately, I could MYOG a 40" wide inner for the SS1. (That is, unless Henry would offer a 40" wide inner for the SS1.)
There is a picture of the inner with two mats on the TT site :note that the poles are perpendicular to the ground, you can get more room if you put them at an angle but that reduces stability.(actualy they are slightly angled at the top rather than the bottom...)
Edited by Franco on 02/26/2013 00:35:09 MST.
Is it possible to setup an SS1 inner in an SS2? Might be a good way to justify buying an SS2 fly for myself
And the opposite question: can you set up the SS2 inner under the SS1 fly? That SS1 inner looks really cramped for 2 people, especially with 3-season sleeping bags.
I second that question - will the SS2 inner fit the SS1 Fly?If not could you get a custom made inner that was wider for the SS1?Edit: Looking at the pole placement I don't think that will work well.
Edited by ctracyverizon on 02/26/2013 08:35:26 MST.
From my understanding, no, the SS2 inner wont fit in an SS1 fly. If it did, I would have kept my SS1. In my opinion the SS1 is an extremely well designed shelter, however the inner needs to be just a few inches wider to be perfect for 2.
The SS2 inner will definitely not fit the SS1 fly. The SS1 inner will, however, fit the SS2 fly with some extra cording to allow the SS1 inner corners and apex points to reach the corresponding attachments on the SS2 fly.-H
Edited by 07100 on 02/26/2013 10:11:50 MST.
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The state Department of Transportation has notified Mascaro Contracting that it must repair electrical issues that are causing traffic signals at nine intersections along Route 22 to malfunction.
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i felt such glee as i wheeled it out of the store. i was literally grinning like a big dork. i originally wanted black, but the brown is pretty nice too. a good change from my all black tendency.
do you want to know the other fucking crazy thing? i was talking to jon when i got back to my hotel and showed him what i got (we were video chatting on ichat) and he had ordered the exact same frigging bag for me today. tell me- what are the odds for that to happen?? what?? he is trying to see if he can cancel the order.
i also got a really rad waistcoat from zara, along with a skirt. pictures may come soon.
my bright-ass hotel room. there is far too much peach in this room for my liking.
i don't know why i'm so sweary right now. apologies.
18 comments:
- Amanda said...
wow that bag is amazing. congrats on finding it..pretty jealz
- January 27, 2009 at 11:26 PM
- Yayer said...
sick bag. nothing beats finding something you lusted for on sale!
- January 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM
- -h of candid cool said...
lucky gal! i saw these bags pop up on rue la la, but i travel once in a blue.
and i agree, sometimes you have to wait for the perfect item to find you. (also hide it from the dog once you get home!)
- January 28, 2009 at 3:35 AM
- Stephanie said...
amanda- thanks!
yayer- yes, i think it was meant to be
-h: i think that might be from where he got it. it hasn't shipped yet, so hopefully he can cancel the order. yes!! i will definitely have to hide it from santos! she tried to pee on my bag when i was packing it the other day. sheesh.
- January 28, 2009 at 8:03 AM
- WendyB said...
SO JEALOUS! I love those bags.
- January 28, 2009 at 8:19 AM
- escritora said...
this roller bag is absolutely fantastic, you lucky girl :)
- January 28, 2009 at 9:29 AM
- -h of candid cool said...
maybe wait and see, he could have ordered you the black one. i think they had the black and white one.
- January 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM
- life . style . dissected said...
wow. you literally willed it to be!
the rib cage imprint is insane.
mmmm, am willing some gorge givenchy lace boots to me right now.
cheers to traveling home with new luggage.
- January 28, 2009 at 1:03 PM
- Stephanie said...
-h: he ordered me the black, but i told him to cancel it anyway. i got the the brown one for cheaper, and i don't want him spending that much money on me!
- January 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM
- fleur_delicious said...
recognized the bag immediately. I am a big fat fan of Alexander McQ. Years and years of my young life (28's still young, yeah?) Love it, seriously - brilliant score.
If you find one of those plaid-and-black-lace dresses from a few years back, snag one for me, eh? =) You know the ones I'm talking about, that highlands-themed fall show was sick, my favorite ever from him. *sigh* Oh McQueen. Such wonderful things. Someday, someday.
Seeing your LV hotel reminds me why I was so glad to flee Santa Barbara - it was this damned (now I'm swearing!) bright every day. The sunlight actually HURT on my skin, long before any sunburn was occurring. yikes.
okay, one last *sigh* over your luggage and I'm done. =)
- January 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM
- Stephanie said...
fleur- ooh i love that dress too. stunning. you won't believe it- there is an alexander mcqueen store in this hotel! (the wynn) i just checked it out today. they had an amazing rodarte-esque knit sweater on sale (though still $900) and some super cool mcqueen/pumas, and some super super delicious leather jackets with shearling collars. i was so tempted to buy a skull scarf, because i've always wanted one. but i think i'm going to resist. i really need some other things in my wardrobe before a scarf.
i could never live in southern california. not only do i hate bright light, but i would burn to a crisp in a day! my skin is so pale that i'm sure people would stare at me like i was an alien.
- January 28, 2009 at 8:47 PM
- pigeon.toed said...
HOLY F*CK!!! I love that bag!
i saw a girl at the airport once that had the white one, and i think i trailed (stalked?) her for a good 5 minutes.
i hope that's not creepy! :)
- January 28, 2009 at 11:06 PM
- Stephanie said...
pigeon.toed- i love the white one too, but it would get filthy, and i would be so paranoid about getting it scuffed i wouldn't be able to enjoy using it. i'm guilty of style stalking people sometimes. or style spying. i was totally style spying on this girl in the airport with fabulous boots on, trying to figure out who made them. they looked like prada, but i have nothing to confirm that. i should have just been brave and asked her, but she kind of intimidated me with her fabulous outfit, me being thrown together in jeans and a t-shirt 5 seconds before i had to leave ;)
- January 28, 2009 at 11:29 PM
- KATLIN said...
yeay on the bag! good things come with patience! i'm patiently waiting for a jil sander dress and/or heels! :)
- January 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM
- Megan said...
i love that bag, everyone you pass in airports etc. will now be beyond envious. really awesome luck!
- February 2, 2009 at 3:34 AM
- Andy said...
What a nice and bright room !
it seems that the bed is REALLY comfortable :)
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- February 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM
- Helena said...
That was contagious. I feel like I have to want something so bad now so I can get it! Have you seen The Secret? I think you had it working for you very well to get two bags ;D
- February 19, 2009 at 8:45 AM
- me melodia said...
very lucky lady!
I'm loving your blog.
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Question: What is your stance?
Total Votes: 163
Just curious...Not looking for debate.
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Minneapolis artist and SCI-Arc alum Connie Wexler Cohen (M.Arch '89) debuts her first solo exhibition of mosaic at the Jewish Community Center in the Greater St. Paul Area (St. Paul JCC) in Minneapolis, MN.
Cohen began working in mosaic eight years ago, after taking a course with her mother, Lois Wexler of St. Louis Park, in Ravenna, Italy, to celebrate Lois' conquest of cancer. Previously, Cohen had worked in the field of architectural and graphic design. She received her bachelor's in studio arts from the University of Minnesota and her master's degree in architecture from SCI-Arc.
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