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Pine City is also known as: Pine County / Pine City city.
Pine City contains: Pine Technical College.
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The Initiative Foundation named Pine City "Outstanding Community" of 2009 and the NAMM Foundation identified it as one of the "Best Communities for Music Education in America" for 2010, 2011, and 2012. Its name is a loose English translation of "Chengwatana" (White-Pine Town), originally an Ojibwe village located just east of Pine City, along the Snake River. The Ojibwe name for the city is Ne-zhingwaakokaag (on a land-point full of white pines). A portion of the Mille Lacs Indian Reservation is located within Pine City. The Dakota Indians were the first in the area. With the Ojibwa expansion, the area became a mixture of the two. By early 19th century, the area became predominantly Ojibwa. They trapped and hunted on the land and traded furs at the nearby trading posts. With the Treaty of St. Peters of 1837, dubbed the "White Pine Treaty", lumbering began in the area. Lumbering, though, was limited by access to the available waterways. In the late 19th century, European settlers came to the Pine City area,...
The official website for the city of Pine City is http://pinecity.govoffice.com/.
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Facts about Pine City, MinnesotaPine City is a city in Pine County, Minnesota County, Minnesota, United States. The population was 3,043 at the United States Census, 2000 census. The estimated population in 2006 was 3,318. Pine City is the county seat of, and the largest city in, Pine County, Minnesota County .
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It was reported by Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on December 7th, 2014 that Margaret Ryberg (Sandberg) died in Wisconsin. Ms. Ryberg was 94 years old and was born in Pine City, MN. Send flowers to share your condolences and honor Margaret's life.
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It was reported by West Central Tribune on August 18th, 2014 that Eda Kalb-Bachmann died in Pine City, Minnesota. Kalb-Bachmann was 91 years old. Send flowers to share your condolences and honor Eda's life.
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Grant Dalton: given ultimatum by Bertarelli?
Team New Zealand will be kicked out of the next America's Cup if they don't drop their legal action against holders Alinghi.
Greg Ford writes in the Sunday Star Times:
In a new and serious development between the two feuding camps, the Sunday Star-Times has been told Alinghi recently sent Team New Zealand a legal letter with that ultimatum and if the Grant Dalton-led syndicate doesn't comply by December 15 the Swiss team owned by Ernesto Bertarelli plans to write a protocol for the next cup in 2010 specifically designed to exclude the Kiwis.
This explosive development has come as a 'bolt out of the blue' for Dalton. He said both parties had been negotiating an out-of-court settlement in recent weeks.
'And we thought we were pretty close to a settlement but then this letter arrived,' he said.
'They are trying to bully and intimidate us which is not going to get anyone anywhere really.'
Team New Zealand mounted a two-pronged legal case against Alinghi earlier this year. Dalton claimed Alinghi broke a promise to hold the regatta in 2009 and sought $60 million in damages.
It also contended Alinghi's protocols, or rules, for the cup were unfair and breached trust laws.
Alinghi returned serve and said that, when Team New Zealand entered the regatta, they agreed in writing they would settle any differences by mediation rather than in court.
Alinghi skipper Brad Butterworth supplied the Star-Times with the paperwork he claimed backed their case.
Alinghi have also been fighting a separate court battle with the Larry Ellison-owned Oracle syndicate, which is the main reason why the regatta has become becalmed.
Bertarelli, who won the most recent appeal in the ongoing saga, holds the whip hand in this battle and last week announced he would plough ahead with the next regatta in 2010.
Dalton said he 'applauded' the decision and is desperate to be part of the regatta. But that's now far from certain, unless Team NZ drop their case.
For the rest of this story http://www.stuff.co.nz/4739973a1823.html!click_here
Sail-World comment:
Alinghi and SNG are already on a course set for the 33rd America's Cup. Emirates Team New Zealand has already entered that event. Therefore they can't be refused entry to an event they have already entered, and been accepted.
The Defender is entitled to close entries by a certain date - now set at 15th December 2008, however this date would only affect teams who have not yet entered like BMW Oracle Racing, and others.
Once entered Team New Zealand becomes subject to subject to the conditions of the 33rd AC Protocol, which provides for an Arbitration Panel to hear disputes. That body has long been claimed to be independent by Alinghi parties.
Therefore it is a little odd that, if reported correctly, that Bertarelli can threaten to exclude a team on the basis of a yet to be held Hearing on a matter of breach of the 33rd AC Protocol. That is pre-determination of the outcome, and also calls into question the independence of the Arbitration Panel.
Secondly, if claims of amendment to the Protocol to exclude certain teams are correct, that also calls into question the oft stated position of the Alinghi parties that they are flexible and open to change in the Protocol,and that they are working co-operatively with the Challengers. If alterations to the Protocol are made, at this stage, at the behest of the Defender, that again calls into question the stance long taken by Alinghi and SNG that the Protocol is designed to advance their 'vision' for the America's Cup and improve the regatta, and not to 'jimmy the rules' so that the event is controlled in the interests of the Defender only.
It is arguable as to whether the agreement which Team New Zealand believe that Ernesto Bertarelli has breached, is actually subject to the jurisdiction of the Arbitration Panel, since it was made outside the Protocol and formal entry process. It related to an agreement to stage the 33rd America's Cup in 2009, and with penalties for delay into 2010 and 2011. That enabled Team NZ to plan ahead with some certainty.
Had Bertarelli not made that side agreement, then it is probable that Dalton would not have entered Team New Zealand in the event. The subsequent Media conference held by Bertarelli would have been a rather hollow affair indeed. Instead, Bertarelli was able to pull a major surprise and gained real credibility for his position. Later Dalton believed that Bertarelli had been inflexible and pedantic in his treatment of the issues between the Defender and Challengers, and that a small shift by Bertarelli would have been sufficent to resolve all outstanding issues, and allow the America's Cup to take place within the agreed timeframe.
The report in the Sunday Star Times, if accurate. only serves to underline the justification for BMW Oracle Racing and GGYC to have taken the action they have in the New York judicial system on the Protocol for the 33rd America's Cup.
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Online user testing solutions like Usertesting.com have become incredibly popular in the last couple of years; providing a fast and easy-to-set-up test platform it's no surprise it's become a regularly used tool for CRO agencies, international web enterprises and thousands of small companies.
With plenty of reviews available online there's no real need for me to go through the list of advantages, however as a strong believer in low cost usability testing proposed by Jacob Nielsen and brilliantly promoted by Steve Krug I think it might be interesting to have a bit more of a sceptical look at these solutions. Mostly importantly I want to try to comparing the costs against the amount and quality of data obtained.
So why might online user testing not be right for you?
Reason 1 – Less time = fewer tasks = less data = fewer insights
The average user session at UserTesting.com lasts only about 15 minutes, severely limiting the amount and length of the tasks in the scenario. Compare this to a DIY solution, where a user is more than comfortable spending an entire hour undertaking 2–3 lengthy tasks in addition to a homepage '5 second test'.
Reason 2 – Is it really the cheapest solution?
A couple hours of your time and incentives for users are the only costs of doing user testing in person. Additionally, if your target audience is pretty general, you can always find some colleagues or friends who would do it for free or a pint of beer.
At UserTesting.com three users will cost you $117 (or $195 for five), plus bear in mind you're likely to require twice the amount of participants compared to DIY (see Reason 1).
Reason 3 – Lack of recruiting control
With only demographic targeting available, online user testing solutions are basically limited to generic sites only. Any niche website or serious B2B requiring some domain knowledge from the user would never be able to find suitable representative.
There is always an opportunity to specify additional requirements but when the decision as to whether a user suits the requirements is made by the user himself I would really question the level of accuracy.
Reason 4 – Professional test participants
Generally the likelihood of your participant being recruited for a particular test (e.g. yours) depends upon their 'rating'. This rating is given by the test creator. Logically the system chooses users with higher ratings much more often than the rest, unintentionally creating small set of 'professional users' participating in plenty of tests on a regular basis. This creates at least two major problems:
1. Experience gained by these users from large number of user test sessions dramatically changes their behaviour towards 'expert review' style rather than 'user thinking out loud'. They seem to focus on reviewing lots of tiny general practice roadblocks when we just need a user following the scenario providing us behaviour insights, not an opinion. There is nothing worse than an amateur giving expert advice.
2. Although maybe not experiencing the fear of hurting a test creator's feelings that occurs in DIY tests (especially if there is an incentive), online user testing participants users are interested in a higher rating from the test creator and often will do almost everything to supply you with a set of minor, easy-to-tweak insights rather than honest severe leaks that usually could question your marketer/designer/developer professionalism.
Reason 5 – Lack of session control
This is without doubt the biggest reason to hate remote user testing, and it still pushes me to advice offline one-to-one user testing for most clients. From my experience at least 25% of every online remote test I conducted was ruined because of this issue. You can spend days on writing clear scenario and intuitive tasks but there's always going to be some people missing the point of the task, simplifying it or thinking they completed it despite being only half-way through.
It becomes more of a problem when we consider 'quiet thinkers' – users continually forgetting to think out loud and only describing what they do. In an offline solution there's always the opportunity to ask "Why are you doing this?", "What are you thinking about?" and "What are you planning to do next?".
And to finish…
Even if the reasons above might sound critical, I still would not recommend excluding online user testing from your tool box. What I wanted to do with this post is to set up some basic factors influencing your decision on which method to take.
I've no argument that, if you are limited with time or want to test small part of your conversion process, UserTesting.com should be you BFF. On the other hand if quality of insights is your main priority consider running test by yourself. It might sound complicated but the pay off will be worth it.
Finally, if this all sound way too complicated simply get in touch with us and we will take care of entire user test process for you including analysis and hypothesis preparation.
Happy testing!
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Deflation: A primer.
Some recommended reading.
9:55 AM, Jul 21, 2010 • By MATTHEW CONTINETTI
CNNMoney.com has an informative piece on the deflation threat today, featuring quotes from economists familiar to readers of various econ blogs. Why do many economists believe deflation is a bad thing? Because,
For more on deflation, check out John H. Makin's economic outlook for AEI. And here's David Frum:
Finally, Tyler Cowen argues here that a "helicopter drop" of money could boost growth more effectively than fiscal stimulus.
Needless to say, an expansionary monetary policy would not be without costs. But we have reached the political and economic limits of fiscal policy without returning to robust, broad-based, private-sector-led growth, and seem to be on our way to Japanese-style Lost Decades of high debt, high taxes, and falling prices. Is that really the economic future we want?
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Young children can be part of the family cleanup team when they are given a small job where they can truly be useful. To find more ways to help children be responsible, succeed in school, and develop a life long love of learning see "Learning through the Seasons" at wnmufm.org for podcasts and grandparentsteachtoo.org.
The skills used in helping around the house are the same skills used in school. It's like the old saying that all you need in life are the skills you learned in kindergarten or preschool.
Gathering is an important skill. When children learn to follow an adult around the home and gather clothes to be washed, they are learning to categorize. They are checking for similar characteristics, in this case dirty clothes. You can choose a task that is age appropriate. They may help by looking under the bed for dirty socks or under the couch for who knows what?
They can help bring everything to a central place ready for the washing machine.
Sorting is another activity important in math and science that can be learned and reinforced at home. Explain to young children why the family sorts dark, light, white, and towels into different piles for the wash. Practice sorting with the children and double check the piles. Will there be errors? Sure. Explain why something dark might need to go into a special pile separate form the dark pile they chose. There are always exceptions. This is also true in math and science. Including young children in chores may take more time at first, but this is valuable family teaching time.
Preschool children can also help load the wash machine with adult or teen supervision. This task is important for both ages. They can also help remove clothing and place them in the dryer.
Once the clothes are dry, children can help sort and fold simple items like socks and underwear. Some families purposely purchase different styles of white socks to make it easy for young children to distinguish for easy sorting. That is really thinking ahead!
Teach children to read size numbers on clothing labels. That is a very useful reading lesson and will help them sort. As long as adults teach age-appropriate skills, make the job a game, praise small steps of learning, and end with a story and a snack, young children will usually enjoy helping with family chores.
What else can we do?
Some families also have color coded dirty clothes bins- a dark bin for jeans and dark clothes, a white bin for light clothing. This system makes sorting easy because young children can be taught to place the correct type of clothing in the correct bin and sort every time they change clothes.


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DUPED by 1 minute! Salon: John Dean: More Vicious Than Tricky Dick
Salon: Suspicion centers on Lewis Libby
King Kaufman : Rush Limbaugh is still a big fat idiot
Slime and Defend-Krugman in NY Times
Osama, oracles and opportunities
Ore. Businessman Offers 'Modest Proposal' if Arnold Wins (humour)
Conduct unbecoming
Limbaugh offended America
Limbaugh and McNabb
Time: Operation Oprah (WH PR campaign)
Mark Morford: Hasta La Vista, California
Wow. Lots of weird pro-Rush comments at this editorial site:
LA Times ed: Muscle and Meaness
Two great cartoons by Benson (Arizona Republic) Lush & Arnie
The Nation: Republicans Relaunch the Antigay Culture Wars
Control of Fertility, Sexuality
John Dean (Salon): More vicious than Tricky Dick
Comprehensive link to Treasongate articles
Dem nomination is about determining the nature of the party (Dean v Clark)
Bob Herbert: Shaking the House of Cards
Arnold Fesses Up and People Are Mad -- at the Messenger
"Wesley Clark is a real Democrat"
Stars and Stripes letters: Our soldiers are pissed.
Study: Wrong impressions helped support Iraq war
Bush Administration Vision For Iraq: Halliburton, Wal-Mart and 7-Eleven
Buzzflash Interview: David Corn, the reporter who broke treason-gate story
Oct 1 2003-PNAC doc
TraitorGate. Who leaked first and why. Under our noses all along.
BBC Panorama documentary about Iraq
McNabb remains cool under fire
Salon: "The Plumbers Are Back" (Ellsberg Interview)
Thomas Oliphant: Past haunts Dean on Medicare issue
GOP strategist: He's the Poster Boy of Trash Politics
NYT: Wes Clark's War (Kosovo Conflict)
Palast's latest - Arnold Unplugged
Kristol: Reality Check - There is disarray in George W. Bush's admin
Outing a CIA operative? Rules call for special counsel
Arnold Unplugged - SPREAD THIS STORY FAR AND WIDE
Philip Agee - The Laws of the Father Are Visited Upon the Son
Help me debunk this Bush tool's take on Kay's report
Meltdown? - Bush's free ride is over
CodePink Protests of Arnold the Groper - Friday, Oct. 3
I can help you write your Congresscritter
From MoveOn re: stopping Arnold
Screw that!
Is there a live feed of Rush on the internet?
Study: Wrong impressions helped support Iraq war
jim rome on ahhhnold re: hitler remarks..
Buchannan and Press
Knew it all along ... Rush doesn't think, he HALLUCINATES.
The Left should stop itself from becoming like the Right.
I met reporter Helen Thomas at an airport this week. Very cool lady.
More conservative logic -- Rushbo
Arnold's Enron connection
Rush: "You better - better! - get me some more!"
"Bush Bad News Pubs: When It Rains, It Fuckin Pours"
Is anyone out there involved in the "voluntary simplicity" movement?
Nolle's October Astro-Report
Archives show UK police spied on Suffragettes
Florida Catholics shut the door on Episcopal diocese
Michigan Moves To Block Gays From Having Canadian Marriages Recognized
"democratic achievements for blacks" anyone have a link?
Bills Would Protect Gay Workers
South Korean actor makes comeback after coming out
President Chun vows to end death penalty - legalize gay marriage Taiwan
Oct. 12-18 -- "Marriage Protection Week"
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GUNS IN THE NEWS--October 3, 2003
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September deficit hits NIS 2.8 billion
Israeli charged over child deaths
Israeli Troops Open Fire at Coffee Shop
Israel steps up security ahead of holy day
Join the 9/11 Questions Meetup!
Cover-up or Complicity of the Bush Administration?
"Why do they hate us " Charlie Wilsons war
Graham is such a flip-flopping waffler
(Andrew) "Young says he won't run for Senate" (GA)
Minnesota DFL leaders endorse Dean, tout his knowledge of key issues
Good article on Dean's visit to Oklahoma on Saturday
Supporters Raise the Roots for Howard Dean
TPM does a follow-up on the Clark interview
CNN POLL now. Does Ahnold-Hitler news change yr opinion of
Howard Dean Connects with College Students
Clarks lack of party affiliation typical in Arkansas
Clark's record may come under fire
Mr. & Mrs. Edwards on CNN with Paula Zahn at 8PM ET
Dean Supporters: Who Did You Write To Last Meetup?
Dean Press Releases...
Dean Calls for Donations - For Striking Workers
Vermont Rated 'Healthiest State' For Third Year In A Row
So If AS Survives & Wins Tues, Do The 6 Ladies File Suit?
Rerun of Candidates on C-Span Now - East Coast
Lieberman shreds Shrub's integrity at DNC meeting
Sacramento Bee : Bustamante is being asked to consider giving up race
Which way does the wind blow for Wesley Clark?
(AP) Kerry Against Bush Majority on High Court
My Electoral College predictions for 2004 as of today - take a look!
Dennis does it again. No $87 billion for Halliburton.
Natasha's latest article says it all. It is a must read.
Kerry Questions Clark's Republican Ties
Daily Yomiuri: Peace candidate (Kucinich) has global appeal
What ever became of the Bush ballot issue???
good article on Dennis K
Interesting Pattern
Open Senate South-Can the Democrats Keep It?
Whitacre D_WI's Fundraiser Is On!
CBS news national poll
Heart Versus Head:
Clark's FEC filing to run for pres lists party as unknown.
Dennis is bring the Democratic Party back to number 1
Mea Culpa, Dennis Kucinich (And his supporters)
DFL leaders endorse Dean, tout his knowledge of key issues
The Case of the Bush Majority vs. Justice and Opportunity-John Kerry
How does a Hurricane form?
Pledge of Allegiance Case Status
Rapper Paris 'Sonic Jihad' chatting now with Colmes
and throw in the bottle too, right down to the last grain of sand
right down to the last grain of sand, and throw in the bottle too
Where is all your hostility coming from?
Why there will be no peace in Israel.
A VERY interesting quote in a Washington Post story about INTIMIGATE
"I've been locked out!"
The only thing more disgusting than Arnold being a Hitler-loving fascist
Arnie and MSNBC call his assaults against women "rowdy acts"
Here is Arnold's agenda (from joinarnold.com)
What changes in election laws would you make?
If you think Republicans are stupid...
And The Rush Hits Keep Comin'...Freepers Eating Their Own
will it be easier to get advertisers to drop OxyRush?
{DU - GD | Rules | Vote} A Do-It-Yourself alternative to Rule 5 (and 1&3)!
need a link to the trent lott speech about supporting troops but...
You know what would galvanize the progressive movement?
Has anyone considered going to RW meet-ups??
Tv Alert - C-Span 10:30 AM - DNC Fall Meeting
Direct Hit on Schwartzenegger campaign!
I have to admit...Poor Rush must take vicoden
Great Daily Show re-air on now.
Notice that Bush is not giving public support to Schwarzenegger
British Female Reporters Not Among Ah-nuld's accusers!
Rall: after the US revolution
Enabling/Defending those who spread hatred and contempt is participation
Another woman comes forward: Arnold threatened rape
Are you a Neo-Con? Check out this questionairre
Rush Counterintelpro: plan for Rush to eventually say "pills for pain"
now there's a soundbite for you!
Friday Morning Whistleass Poll numbers
Rush wears pink lipstick.
Can you believe this?
Putin Beefs Up ICBM (missiles) Capacity
huffington on democracy now! now
Doesn't the CIA have caller id?
Courtney Love goes to find Kurt
Ophra The Hypocrite
"The Ballad of Tonita Blair"
CBS POLL (comments)
Vicodin causes hearing loss when used to excess
Call CSPAN Friday morning on Schwarzenegger
Goverment tracking chips of people--it is now here.
Limbaugh - is - outta------here!!!
They're still saying Iraq and 9-11 in the same breath
Are you a neo-conservative? Take this poll and find out. Muy interesante
"They happened 30 years ago, he's changed"?!
Candidates to Speak at DNC Fall Meeting on CSPAN Today
geographic breakdown of Arnold's support...
TX Republicans eating themselves on re-redistricting.
NPR on Arnold's campaign yesterday (recap)
Thanks a lot Oprah
Republicans (Hastert) sneaky plan to kill bipartisan FCC rules rollback
These latest allegations against Arnold will not hurt him
Players say Rush's Comments off base
Ga Senate seat
Heads Up Everyone. Kennedy and Byrd to give Press Conference
Let us list Cheney's lies!
Why am I a bit perturbed by the new Afghani Constitution?
i hope rush can't be arrested.
Doug Stephan show: Expect Limbaugh tapes on 'net, possibly today
Doug Stephan show: Expect Limbaugh tapes on 'net, possibly today
a History of Bush Blabbering Classified Information?
So I'm 'Arguing' With My Brother...
Need help finding Colin Powell quote...
WMDS Question
The Balkans
Question - why hasn't someone in one of Pigboy's detox visits
When a Democrat supports Taiwan...
Arnold's next movie, "The Gropes of Wrath?"
I hate Midwest Communications
AWWW....Gawwddd....Bush is on CSPAN
:( I think an NDP candidate was the victim of a Liberal propaganda effort
Is there a live feed at 10:30 with...
White Men White Men White Men!!! Christian White Men!
a suggestion/request on reference to Guantanamo
Utility bill payment delayers: Putin will ransom Fido
"Don't Plame Me" (HAHAHAHA.........
Are you a Neo-Conservative? Es muy interesante.
How many voters will be "Floridated" in CA?
Latest contributions to Arnold's race
Arnold: My role model has a first name, it's H-I-T-L-E-R
DNC Committee Fall Meeting on NOW C-Span!!!
That Cigar Box Gives It All Away!!!
Slain CIA Agent's Dad Calls Wilson Leak Treason
live 10:30 democratic feed?
I will Never Ever Believe That California Will Elect Arnold
Important article on DU front page! Must read!
Could a Schwarzenegger victory be a blessing in disguise?
Friendly fire at Nasiriya? Video. Was on Aaron Brown tonight.
Mitch Albom: That's Rush: Wrong and wrongheaded
Is anyone out there involved in a "voluntary simplicity" project?
They are making some pretty seroius allegations
1-2 punch from NYT Editorial Page: Herbert and Krugman
Smirk's foreign policy's complete failure. Plan ? What Plan ?
Information for ignorance... about being a 'REGISTERED' Democrat
My 2 days off with DU: What I learned.
Wow...CSPAN thing is awesome
If you need a reason to fight, I've got one
Presidential Democratic Candidates are on CSPAN RIGHT NOW
Ah-nold crass-o-meter poll:
Oh My God! Bush Just Came On TV and Lied About Iraq WMDs!
Arnold screwed the state for $800,000 in sales tax
Kurt Vonnegut sums up my sentiments about life these days
Re: The Kay Report
B*sh to visit Lexington Ky next week.
I think I know what's missing in the Democratic Party
Getting it wrong on the Iraq war
Will any networks be carrying Arianna's press conference?
It's Time to Get Out! Out of Iraq NOW - bumper sticker
heads up - C-Span 2: Lautenberg on 9/11 air traffic
Is Iraqs readmission into OPEC really good news for U.S.?
BBV: We are in Compter Sweden magazine
Shrub on CNN
Join Arnie.com: "Volatile times demand vague answers!"
TV News Lies Webcast to start at noon ET.
Anyone see Rob Lowe on Daily show last night
1200 Inspectors, 90 days, $300M spent, WMD found = 0
Bush Bad News Pubs: When it rains, it fuckin POURS
40% of our fellow Americans living in denial?!
Proof that Bush's plan is NOT to create jobs
I'd be happy to read some optimistic feelings here
Saudis ask Ambassador Jordon to leave
Anyone Listening to the DNC on C-Span?
Local Fox, Abc, nbc, cbs news station's caried Arnold, Hitler quote
A brief report on last night's Kucinich Meet-up in Berkeley --
Are you listening to Rush live?
FYI - Scoobie Davis is going to do a Transcript of the Fri Rush Show
Bush on CNN. I am really confused
Rush's hearing loss caused by the drugs?
Must read articles in Salon.com today
For me, an explanation of Tweety's guests
The Problem with Liberman's speeches
How many shoes do they have left to drop?
Is Reverend Moon the false Messiah?
DNC Fall Meeting On C-Span
Dean on Cspan1 NOW n/t
Bush lites
$600 million? Ask the GOP for it.
Hillary Rodham Clinton files for 2004 Presidency?
Joy Browne: Arnie fondled me....
Hilary throws her hat in the ring?
Which radio group do to you listen to?
Attn. Boston DUers! Joe Conason in Boston TODAY! CORRECTION!
"let's stick together"
Look what's going on here!
Democratic candidates are on CSPAN RIGHT NOW
(TPM) Josh Marshall: The White House has already lost the CIA Battle
Blimpo Limpnoodle hires ROY F'in BLACK!!!!
Good Shush Analysis
Unemployment holds steady at 6.1%, economy adds jobs 1st time in months
is Al Sharpton gonna speak at the DNC Fall Meeting? I hope so
Rush Limbaugh - Mandatory Minimum Sentance: 25 years..
Two party system in support of utter madness.
New Democratic Slogan: "Twelve, Two, and One"
Ideological purity preferable to victory?
This might be my last post
Watching Today Show? FL has known about Rush's drugs for 5 months
Carol Moseley-Braun is up on CSPAN
Kaye and Rush discussed on TvNewsLies radiocast.... now
Bush: "Rush is a great American"
Kerry up!! whisles blowing...woohoo "whistleass"
Armstrong WIlliams: the CIA Leak? There's no scandal (CNN)
Limbaugh won't be charged in Jeb Bush's Florida
Think back to '99 to the repug candidates
BBV- Absence of Serious Security for Voting Systems......
So I was watching Fox last night
If Arnold wins:
They're Waiting For Them All To Die - Nuclear Radiation Exposure
End Structural Adjustment!
Whoa! This Ex-CIA guy Is Pissed!
Am I missing something here
The lie they feed us 100's of times a day
My new dream ticket: Clark - Rubin 2004
The CIA Leak: Rogue Agency?
Vermont Voter Registration Form
MSNBC pissing me off on Arnold
I just got this e-mail.....ROFLOL!!
What does Bush want?
I sent this to Arriana, I hope she uses it.
There's a good discussion about Rush's racism on Tavis Smiley right now
Entertainers for the Democratic Presidential Nomination Convention
Rush calling for "open-mindedness"
Bush misleading the country right now.
Lieberman point counter-point, in all fairness
"This isn't my fault - Clinton made me take illegal drugs"
What is wrong with the people??? Re:Arnold
Why we're better than them! Al Franken feels sorry for Rush!
I love it...
U.S. Firms Add 57,000 New Jobs in Sept.
Why comparing California to Florida is apples to oranges
Question: If Arnold is elected, how long is his term?
new media study
USA Today feedback on Rush
*Bush laughs about "Leaks", thinks Treason is funny
Kucinich on CSpan1 .. Now
Transcript: Baer (Ex- CIA) on Buchanan and Press (Yesterday)
Who would Clark pick for VP? Who would Dean pick for VP?
I have a Rush question I need answered
Libetarians taking over NH: Greens should take over WY
"Join Arnold" - A Mouthful of Hitlerian Marvels - (Adult Content)
"democratic achievements for blacks" anyone have info, a link?
Christian Coalition on C-Span now
The self absorbed worl of Bill O'reilly
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! I turned on C-Span to see....
The old tried and true method of wedging white votes.
MSNBC-Enquirer Article About Rush Reads Like A Police File.......
Didn't some of the CA polls have Gore trailing Bush?
Soldier drowns in swimming pool in Baghdad 11am Oct 3
C-Span..Take Back America?..anybody know what these wackos are
Rush's drug problems prove the fallacy of the drug war
Politics1 on Graham's possible departure
CANADA: Chretien to start smoking pot soon!!
A comment about fear/WsMD and Bush's current drop in popularity
John and Elizabeth Edwards on CNN Tonight
Bush, Rush and holding on to the base.
Hasta La Vista, California
Wilson and Novak BOTH on This Sunday's MTP
I should be a campaign advisor.
How egotistical can this man be?
Oh my dear lord! Arnold's accent added with hoarseness!!
Celebrities urge 'No' vote on recall....
Rush meets biblical vengence
Gee, Arnold I stopped feeling up girls when I was about 11
WMD searcher Kay's credentials: atuned to the Bush* ideology
Kucinich up!!! IMAGINE.......C-Span
NY Post: ESPN/ABC viewed Rush opponents as potential violent threat
Groping - a soft n' fuzzy term for ASSAULT
Arnold's more recent Nazi past....
Fox viewers less informed on Iraq
Where has the money gone...$25 million more hidden by the military...
Why Has There Been No "Leak" from a Member of the Elite Press Corps?
Bruce Springsteen Bashes Bush
Latest poll (this time CBS) - Clark is STILL ahead of all others!
Has Rush been found to have any drugs in his possession?
Are touchscreens going to give US the win?
-DEMANDING a Special Prosecuter (Kit)-ACT NOW!
Anybody listening to Limbaugh?
Execution in Six Easy Steps
In defense of us Dem parents who "brainwash" our kids
How FOX News presents liberals
Liberals being called SECULAR FUNDAMENTALISTS.
Arnold's Nazi Problem
Karl Rove 'press release' defending hos smear outing
The Oil Stooge's biggest supporter - Vivian Freep
If you don't understand what Arnold's gropings mean, consider this:
Maria Shriver is pissed!
The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy... (VLWC)
Maybe, just maybe, Arnold getting elected will be a good thing after all
Women, Indians, Hispanics, Jews....what group hasn't Arnold pissed off?
I am dismayed!!!! I am dismayed!!!!
Pervert Nazi Arnnnoold talks to the future voters (cartoon)
Ray McGovern, "55% chance Bush administraton will plant WMDs"
A take on Ahnuld's gropee's coming out now
Since 1997, More Than 22,000 People Have Deserted US Army
Somalia humanitarian mission.
Arnold's 4 mill bank loan for campaign is illegal - suit filed
What should Oprah do?
Crossfire thread
Rename "West Wing" to "Right Wing" and avoid.
BBV book: Chapters 3 & 4 now up in PDF format:
Clark on Cspan1 Now ... n/t
Do rich people deserve their money?
Why is Krugman carrying the water for Democrats.
When will CNN dump Novak?
This Arnold sex scandal is really catching on fire
If Arnold wins, be very afraid.
Life just isn't fair for Bob Graham
Rush blocking Liberal talk show host's attempts to syndicate.
Is Novak getting a free ride?
Freepers: You Taught Us Everything
CNN: "Bush says [Kay] report confirms danger of Saddam's regime"
Serious Question: Did Rush bring anything to the table as a football
Novak & Repugs questioning Wilsons credentials?
I've noticed a distinct change in tone today
My list of choices to replace Rush on ESPN
Bush in my state!
For the love of God, Holy Joe LieberBush is not a "prominent progressive"
Why is everyone sure that Arnold is going to win?
I was just watching CNN a bit ago and
Clark Wants Probe of W.House on Iraq Intelligence
I get it now: The White House Deadline (Leak) is On Recall Day!!!
DNC Meeting Video Available on C-Span!
Michael Stipe Disses Limbaugh, Schwarzenegger, Bush* & Rove
Bush was really, really stupid to pick a fight with the CIA
Who will President Dean pick for Defense and CIA Chief?
Trott blames CIA for bad WMD evidence
The final word: Clark *is* a Democrat, and here's PROOF
Susan Estrich
4350 Pills?!? Was Rush DEALING?
My analysis of the recent "war misperceptions" study in the Philly
A big WHAT IF?
New California Field Poll: Large Undecided Vote
Will Dean or Kerry be Clark's VP?
It is time for Diane Feinstein to come out for Bustamante (e-mail her)
Newt Gingrich: What does he know about Treasongate?
Hardcore Gore Supporters Wanted
LOL... Maria S. quoted on Hardball: We are starving.....
Is the Picture of Arnold's Nazi father real?
Arianna and the Press Conference with the women
Who Are The Hypocrites? -- Us Or Them? -- We Or They?
Arianna on CNN
Arnold rejects Nazi ties says Newsmax!
go vote against Arnold on CNN poll
God's Country (Theocracy-One congressperson at a time)
Get the "Arnold Abuse" ad on the air and spread the word:
CHENEY - From the Dog House to the BIG HOUSE
Mike Mills (R.E.M.) blasts Coulter
C-SPAN Washington Journal Weekend Schedule
Tweety Just Said He Voted For *
What in the hell is going on in California?
GI Joke, the Great American Zero; GI Joke is There
Is Canada's mission in Afghanistan worthwhile? POLL
Byrd / Kennedy News Conference on C-Span1 NOW
bbv.com Update
Happy Anniversary, Bill Clinton!
Taliban Close In On Afghan Capital Of Kabul -- is this true?
Oh that exclusive to Buchanan and Press is just
Did Rush really read an ad today for painkillers?
Didn't Weasly Little David Kay Jump on Scott Ritter's Claims ?
Daily Kos - Asshole Republicans
Video of Arnie groping TV host exists! Will it get aired??
Al Franken ripped Ann Coulter apart on a radio show (mp3 format)
Generation Dean's Bill of Rights for a New Generation of Americans
2003 Democrat All Star Team
WOW! WMD debate on "Boston Public."
Asta La Vista, Arnold?
I just got push polled by the RNC
Are you a Neo-Conservative? Find out for yourself.
When will negative ads in the Presidential primaries start?
Anti-Arnold demo on my street right now!
Transcript of Clark's speech today...
HeadsUp DNC Fall Meeting right now on C-Span
This past August I went to D.C. with my 17 year old son....
BBV Bev URGENT please call me...
What if Bush kicked out all the neocons?
ATTN: Military families NEWSWEEK wants your input
Terry McAullife must go!
White Backlash Is Here Again.
I just donated $200 to MoveOn. Ask me anything.
Joe Scarborough and some guy going yak yak yak
Not an actual DU poll, but a question: Who thinks the leaker will cop to
Smoking Gun has the goods on Rush's pushers
One Father's Perspective that should shake the world
Prominent Democrats Throw Support Behind General Clark's Campaign
There are no WMD not even TRACES of WMD in Iraq
TraitorGate, Leaker Exposed (in Cheney's office):
Unfortunately, I think Davis is toast.
Is it me or did Bush sound like he was taking some of Rush's pills today?
what Oxyrush says?
Why it is important that Arnold not be the next governor
Let us savor the moment (a revised poem)
Wait - should we be backing Arnold?
Clark Calls for Independent Investigation of Iraq War
Aaron Brown Covering CIA Leak (CNN) Larry Johnson on!
What political category would you place Lincoln Chafee in?
G.W. Bush in one word?
Of all people to point this out...
West Point classmate discusses Clark
Canditates Speaking on C-Span thing Reruning Now - East Coast
Republican aide fired over offensive web site (Carnahan)
It will be interesting to watch Rush over the next few days.
The Economist, Bush's Former Enablers in UK, Now Scold Over WMD Lies
Lt. Gov. in CA says that Ahnuuld could be charged for sex battery
Joy Browne, radio host tells of incident with Arnold
DUpe this poll, re: Rush Limbaugh
TreasonGate: First leaker's identity? Right under our noses.
What do you do when the lies told upon lies come crashing down...
US-led Globalism
A brief biography/resume on George Tenet, Dir., Central Intelligence....
Seems to be a lot of Rush apologists on the DU Hmmmm.....
RECALL ARNOLD - Goal Reached
painkiller abuse and hearing loss
What's the matter with conservatives? Why can't they relax and be happy?
Spy pictures of suffragettes revealed (Terrorist?)
Wes Clark is speaking again on C-Span....
Did Arnold use Steroids that were destined for Growth-stunted Child?
Someone like Feinstein should suggest Ahnuld take a polygraph re: Hitler!
Need info on Congressman Bart Gordon (D-TN)
Did anyone listen to the Diane Rehm Show today?
Limpbaugh's words
Was "The Emerging Democratic Majority" wrong?
The voters in the red states took the blue pill
Unbelievable statement from Bush in Wisconsin....
How about Menendez for vice president?
Feed Him To The Lions
LOL: Letter from GeorgeWBush.com I received today
Is there any chance Bustamante could still win?
Nader challenging Bush Jr over extremist Texan Republican party policies
Anybody watching Hardball tonight? I would like to smack Chris Matthews
CBS/ABC News Thread
John Dean Advises Wilson and Plame to SUE The Bush Administration
Daily Yomiuri: Peace candidate (Kucinich) has global appeal
Chris Matthew Says He Voted For Bush
Question about CIA Agent Scandal
Arnold is the next govenor of California....
Bob Novak invokes the fifth on CNN
Does Character Count?
Buchanan & Press talking about Cheney (Dumping Cheney?)
Genetic Causation of Homosexuality
TinFoil Hat Time!! Put Your Tin On Before You Come In Here.
Mr. & Mrs. Edwards on CNN at 8PM
Will the Democratic Party Implode in 2004?
Is Rush Still Using?
Small victory for progressive forces in Ontario...:)
Why Was Tucker Wearing a Dean Button on Crossfire?
Attention Harris County (TX) Democrats
Is everyone aware that we changed new rule #5?
"Democrats are enemies of the America people." This was printed
Another scam: Did you hear about the fifteen days of R & R...
Study: Fox News Viewers Most Ignorant, Misinformed
Patriot Act at work! Background check before opening a Mutual Fund!
Electing Ahhnold will cost California $9 BILLION - Palast.
the 'permissive' era of Clinton is to blame for Rush's moral failings...
LA Protest against Arnold!
Wilson "outing" proves Novak is a WH shill.
Wow! Outing Plame Was a Major Screw-Up and REALLY Bad for The Country!
Do 28% of Democrats in California support the recall?
Some positive news from the California Front
Who Would You like to see in Dean's Cabinet???
Something Positively Stinks About this Limbaugh Situation
How often does a General come along that is a "natural" politician ?
take back the political language or fix bayonets?
why nancy pelosi's speeches are so ineffectual...BOTOX
A few words about the new rules for starting threads in the GD forum.
Question for BBV People
Do Freepers troll this board often?
FL State House District 54 Special Election
Fred Phelps To Erect Matthew Shepard Monument
Move On needs recall phone bank people - all states welcome!
Green party key to pres victory.
Not backing McClintock will cost the GOP
Carol Moseley Braun: I am the clearest alternative to George Bush
Do you think Maria Shriver is a republican?
Elephant in the Living room-80% less oil than we thought
John Kerry on CSPAN now
Bush in Milwaukee - (Includes link to speech) SCREWED UP STUFF!
I just got back from helping my neighbor ID her dead 21 year old son
Forget this week's news...TODAY'S Clark news is all that matters
PROVE MY THEORY RIGHT RE Dean vs. Clark
Saturday Night Live must have done so many rewrites!
Catholics outraged that sculpture of clergyman looks like a penis
When the Democrat nominee becomes president in 2005
Black Box Voting . COM site pulled down -- Harassment
Do the poor deserve to live?
Kerry National Service Plan
Setting the record straight on Clark, Pentagon, Pristina, Clinton...
Do you support John Kerry's mandatory service proposal?
PC and the folks who dislike the term.
Is Maria Shriver anorexic?
DNC members say Clark's past support for Republicans is not a drawback
Nightline Friday 10/3 Several furious former CIA officers speak out
"The Empire Never Ended" - vile video / monkeys, Hitler moustaches, Perle
Am I the only one who thinks Bush's reelection odds are better than 50/50?
Fooling the Human Mind as a Business and a means to Power.
Rules to start discussion threads in the General Discussion forum
Drudge: NAT. ENQUIRER held back reporting on Limbaugh & pills for 2 yrs.
Iraqi resistance more lethal: US commander (DAMN BUSH TO HELL!!!)
Leak of Agent's Name Causes Exposure of CIA Front Firm
Study: Fox News Viewer's Most Uninformed / Ignorant on Iraq War
Inside Guantanamo
Bush program ruffles feathers (* visit to Australia)
Referendum Sought To Repeal California Domestic Partner Law
Bush: Iraq War Justified Despite No WMD
Venezuela Regulator Seizes TV News Equipment
Canadian PM Mulls Smoking Marijuana When He Retires
Agent exposed in W. House leak ran overseas operations, recruited agents
White House Staff Given Until Tuesday to Turn in CIA Leak Information
U.S. says no to 2 nd food show in Cuba
A Davis Successor Would Have to Wait
McCain endorses Schwarzenegger
Clark wants probe of W.House on Iraq intelligence
Kerry Questions Clark's Republican Ties
Davis Busy Filling Vacancies and Judgeships Just in Case
Canadians to be exempt from new U.S. border rules 'until further notice'
Kay No Longer Sure Trailers Were Labs
Iraq Sought Missile Parts, President Says
Tom Jackson reportedly threatened to quit ESPN show unless Rush left.
Two Florida National Guardsmen Probed on Iraqi Marriages
Hiroshima, Nagasaki mayors protest Russia nuke plan (Pre-emptive use)
A Canceled Leave for Reservists in Kuwait Distresses Families
Recount procedures questioned in California election
On Novaks own shown he refuses to answer questions on advice from counsel
Outed CIA spy grew up in Montco
DUPE!!! Leak of Agent's Name Causes Exposure of CIA Front Firm
Poll Shows Drop in Confidence on Bush Skill in Handling Crises
National Movement Launches U.S. Debates
Bush pushes Congress to pass U.S. energy bill
EU may block USA defense plan
Sinking feeling for PCB-laden ships
Congress, NIH clash on research issues
U.S.: Large Unions Must Disclose Finances
Report: Grasso pressured floor trader
U.S. Gets Unusual Rebuff From Annan on Iraq
CNN: Court strikes down prisoners' DNA database (9th Circuit)
Putin takes swipe at US over Iraq
In Iraq, a scramble for troops
Kuwait says it seized smuggled Iraq artefacts (not WMD's)
HeadsUp DNC Fall Meeting right now on C-Span
Private Lynch's 'sex slur'
Incidents from Schwarzenegger's past raised in campaign
Pakistan Test-Fires Nuclear-Ready Missile
Fallacies led to war support
Hillary Running????
Liberals Win Big in Ontario
NYT: Wes Clark's War (Kosovo)
Analysis of new ad by MoveOn.org {re: Arnold}
Clark's Connection Goes Back to the Point
Politics of offshoring: Elected officials begin to parlay their policies
poll shows CA recall support growing
State Department official defends U.S. travel restrictions against Cuba
Bush seeks to rebuff Iraq critics
Democratic chairman urges GOP counterpart to denounce Schwarzenegger
U.S. Wants Fair Elections in Azerbaijan
Wait-and-see mode at Graham's office
Bush Cites Parts of Arms Report to Justify U.S. Action in Iraq
Leaves back on for New England-based Army Reservists
(UN) Agency worried about ozone hole
U.S.: Large Unions Must Disclose Finances
Bush: Saddam Deceived International Community
Recount Procedures questioned in California
'Tues. Deadline for Leak-Related Material ' - Yahoo Headlines
US and Turkey to hit PKK
Polish Troops Find New French Missiles in Iraq
Politics of offshoring (Silicon Valley Biz Ink)
Marines sure they were friendly-fire victims
Schwarzenegger disputes alleged Hitler admiration quote
Hospital Says Wal-Mart Shopper Didn't Suffer Snake Bite
Mitt's defense of Arnold's antics: He's just like Ted K
YUKOS Denies Exxon Deal Looming
Ashcroft, Rove ties scrutinized
City, county looking at what comes after hanging chads (Chi/Cook Cnty/BBV)
Army sergeant on leave wins $150M jackpot
AP: Iraqi Trailers Are Re-Examined
Putin unhappy with Iraq resolution
Bush: Saddam Deceived International Community
Bush Chasing Campaign Cash in Wisconsin
Caveat emptor when picking out a lobbyist (MD DBD/SAIC BBV)
Home from Iraq war, dies in wreck
Warren County Baby Born Drunk
Report: Love arrested, hospitalized.
BBC: Half-Life 2 code leaked online
Seniors get to try out new voting machines (BBV in CT)
Visit from Bush? Send the bill to the GOP
Bush: Hussein 'A Danger to the World'
EXCLUSIVE: Al-Jazeera Buckles Under US Pressure
Slain Iraqi translator branded a traitor for working with U.S. forces
Young says he won't run for Senate
Blasts kill 4 Iraqis; Saddam's 'executioner' arrested
Senate panel chairman says policy toward Cuba `has not worked'
Senator Byrd on CSPAN now proposing amendment on Iraq
How egotistical can this man be?
NK Says It Has Solved All 'Technological Matters' For Making Nukes
Delphi Will Slash 500 Salaried Jobs (Layoff Update - 1800 More)
Am I missing something here
Minnesota Republican Chairman Indicted
FBI Descends on Area of Rural Mississippi Known for Eye-Popping Jury Award
N Korea calls Rumsfeld 'psychopath'
No surprises in Iraq weapons report - Blix
Tellabs cuts another 370 jobs
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Hillary Rodham Clinton files for 2004 Presidency?
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How Yeltsin crushed democracy
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UN finalises anti-graft treaty
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Chechen mayor shot dead
Pakistan tests nuclear-capable missile
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Rocker defends Rush; Sapp goes after Rocker, ESPN analysts
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US claims bio-weapon found in Iraq
Celebrities urge 'no' vote on recall
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Bush comments on White House leak.
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What's on your "Things to die before I do." list?
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National Novel Writing Month
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Rush Limbaugh's Miracle Diet
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Rush Limbaugh Picks Satan's Bellybutton Lint, Coos Softly
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Esteban Kolsky will present 'A Social CRM Framework' at the upcoming Social CRM Strategies for Business Seminar hosted by SAP in Palo Alto, California on Sept 13-14.
Learn more and register at www.bptpartners.com.
Esteban Kolsky looks at the new Gartner Magic Quadrant for SCRM and asks whether it demonstrates that the market doesn't exist.
- Sufficient differentiating features to make it independent of other markets.
- The ability to operate independently of other applications (no do-or-die dependencies).
- An addressable, unique problem that cannot be solved with other applications.
- A revenue projection that will make it worth the time for vendors and providers.
- A business justification, tangible costs and benefits, and in some (OK most) cases an ROI.
- A story that is easy to understand by senior management, middle management, and users.
Esteban Kolsky is principal and founder of ThinkJar, an advisory and research think-tank focused on customer strategies. will present: A Social CRM Framework at the upcoming Social CRM Strategies for Business Seminar hosted by SAP in Palo Alto, California on Sept 13-14. Mr. Kolsky has over 22 years of experience in customer service and CRM consulting and research. Learn more and Register at www.bptpartners.com.
Market for 'SCRM' ? What SCRM?
Finaly a sober opinion! Esteban's piece is spot-on, so much that I had to tweet it 4 times (excessive perhaps, but I made comments after the link and I had 4 different thoughts while reading it, had to share them ; )
One very important corollary of the Hype Cycle is the Bandwagon Effect. Just as everyone was sticking '2.0' labels to whatever they do (sell), the 'everything social' hype wave swept the numeric release into oblivion (although sleepy retards are still using it here and there), and now everyone is slapping the 'social' sticker onto everything. Social shopping? Of course, we wrote the book! Social looting? London did it! Social body waste, anyone? (that was politically correct for $#!+)... In this line of logic, why not Social CRM?
This foolish game of hype labels seems pretty innocent, but it causes damage to every party: confuses users/buyers into investments they regret, exposes the (in)competence of analysts and the (dis)honesty of vendors. Some vendors abandon their true core strength in pursuit of 'their slice' of projected multibillion markets in something they don't really undersand. Past bandwagons have dropped dead passengers along the way...
Is there a way to prevent such irrational impulses, to stay closer to reality and to protect players from the hazards? (Easy question - just like finding a way to prevent bubbles in stock markets : ) Which brings us to the role of influencers. These are many and various, they include highly visible gurus and bloggers, the specialist (and general) media, the marketing and PR efforts of vendors, and not least - the industry analysts. The latter come in various sizes and flavours, but the heavyweights have more influence for obvious reasons. (Shall we call those reasons 'social'? : ) With influence comes responsibility: arbitrary creation of non-existent categories and 'markets' can have dire eocnomic (and.. social!) consequences when you are big, universally quoted and blindly believed.
Gartner cannot be declared entirely impartial to hype inflation or entirely innocent of bandwagon fuelling. I cannot comment on other classes of technology, but those of us in the 'customer' space (those old enough) may remember Gartner's role in creating the CRM category in the 90-s, and the bandwagon that it became. The confusion that resulted propelled to astronomic heights vendors who had little to do with Customer Centricity and everything to do with Corporate Interests, Products, and Sales, Sales, Sales. The confusion was such that, years later, there is still no consensus definition of CRM, everyone understands it 'their own way'. Little surprise that it's now happening to Social CRM...
Happening to what? What is Social CRM? The root cause of all above phenomena is the lack of clarity on the business discipline of SCRM. (And pretty much on CRM for that matter). Obsession with technology has led many to forget that any technology only exists in order to automate, accellerate, improve some business process, economic (or... social!) activity. If there isn't a process to be automated, there isn't a technology for that, period.
Enabling technologies start with understanding of what they are supposed to automate. And understanding starts with a definition. Where is the universally agreed definition of SCRM? It is complex, Esteban is right. It's a little more complex than a 3-page sentence in the XYth edition of a book by some guru (an edition where only hype words are replaced or added). It's also more complex than "if it walks and sounds like a duck..." - defining by example, like pointing in the direction of something/someone and saying 'This is it!'. ("Lithium is SCRM" - then everything that walks and quacks like Lithium must also be SCRM, right?)... A definition doesn't have to be a 'sentence' (or paragraph), it can be a list of attributes, like Esteban's bullet points of what defines a market. But it is important that the business discipline of SCRM is clearly defined in a widely recognised way.
I am not prepared to share my own definition - this will place me in the (long) line of self-proclaimed gurus who love inventing hot water (or sliced bread, if you prefer) and claiming intellectual property or at least 'thought leadership' over the topic. But I will gladly accept a well-thought, rational definition. Where is it?
It is the business philisophy that needs to change
Good article Esteban, and a very worthwhile comment from Vladmir - I agree with you both.
Looking at this from the business management perspective, the issue is that social media is seen as another set of 'bolt on' customer communication channels to fulful strategies that are still economically mass marketing with a customer twist. What are business managers calling 'Social CRM'? Digital Marketing !!! Where digital = electronic, and marketing is still too often marketing communication.
What both digital marketing and social CRM are trying to do is support the idea of 'customer engagement' (ongoing listen converse, engage). However, customer engagement is not just two way marketing communications, it is a very distinct business philisophy, rooted in different economics to mass marketing. Mass marketing, suited the economies of the twentieth century which was looking for welfare growth, to avoid the 1930's depression, and use the production capacity of the second world war machine. But, economic needs are changing (just incase no-one had noticed) and we are now moving to an era where 'scaling up the values of the local store', is more suitable to economic and social times. Technology does have a very big part to play in this, but it cannot play it until the business philisophy is understood, and the strategy and tactics employed.
I also agree with Esteban, that the business philisophy needed in these new economic times is about co-creating value: but, I will go further and say it is also about understanding that you are offering services to customers (even if you sell products, those produces provide a service) and it is the economics of those services that is the rethink required. Companies need to offer a proposition to be of service to customers 'tribes' and act as a platform for that service delivery - some of the delivery will come from the company, some will come from other customers. The company must understand itself to be the centre of a network (relationship network), and its competitive advantage lies in the skilled capabilites (of which technology is one), its influence, its customer relationships and strength of network.
Business economics have changed, and businesses are still struggling with how. The only real emergent support to this is the one that has started to link itself with relationship marekting (or CRM) and is called by the very un-sexy name of service dominant logic S-DL. The issue with S-DL, is that, for now, it is still too academic and not linked to the world of socialCRM/digital marketing. But, if taken and made useful, then it offers the philisophic hook on which tactical digital marketing (together with more personal forms), can link with social CRM (the technology).
Jennifer Kirkby
Wow, thanks Vladimir!
Thanks for a great comment. I must say I agree with you - you make some great points throughout. I like this statement very much "Obsession with technology has led many to forget that any technology only exists in order to automate, accellerate, improve some business process, economic (or... social!) activity".
Yes, it is about understanding what, and how, to automate. In that sense, and to answer your final question, to me social CRM is no more than managing the social channels for an existing CRM implementation - but it brings nuances with it. Data in social channels is slightly diff (in type and volume) than existing transactional data, the signal-to-noise ratio and filtering bring an added wrinkle to dealing with the data, and then there are privacy and transparency issues to battle... plus more. As long as SCRM solutions can take that data and those transactions and structure them for use in traditional CRM solutions - as well as handle the interaction via social channels - we are there. Of course, we are far from there yet.
There is a lot more to discuss and understand, I certainly hate definition wars (we battled starting in 2008 - I hope we are done). There is a lot more value to be derived.
My bottom line: SCRM is not about what it does, rather what it enables - what it enables is collaboration.
But, that is the topic for the next session.
Thanks for the read and the comment.
Social CRM is here to stay ....
Great article and some excellent points - thanks for posting Esteban.
This is a huge area - it is mostly what "social" was invented for - and for all its lack of clarity - this topic is going to be on the agenda for at least as long as CRM.
Completely agree that Gartner seems very confused about the whole social software sector and their quadrants are not helpful. Agree also that Social CRM is always going to be hard to pinpoint since CRM itself proved very fluid in the first place.
Is it too simplistic to say : Social CRM is about implementing CRM incorporating social platforms (see Andrew McAfee for channels vs platforms). The right combination and integration will vary by customer and objective but the breadth of purpose remains the same. The nuances are going to be big - "social" adds people-power which is a conceptual step-change.
Our experience with clients in many industry sectors concurs with yours. This is ultimately all about collaboration and co-creation of value - lots of it !
thanks Jennifer
Thanks for the comments, great points you make.
First, I agree with you that Marketing is the wrong place to put social - well anything. even in a 2.0 world, they are still too concerned with message and brand to get into engagement properly. this is one of my main concerns (i wrote about it last year, saying that CS is the most likely place to go - now i correct that to say that IT is also a likely place to land, if done properly - more about that in another post though), and i am starting to see that change, with both IT and CS picking up the pace and the ownership. that makes me quite happy, as we are getting back to engagement - either from a technology-infrastructure perspective, or from having a relationship with the customer that goes two ways perspective.
I really like your comment about the company becoming part of the social network, something entirely needed and that is missing today. it is not about being the recipient/emanator of the message in a conversation, it is about holding those conversations, which takes more than talking and listening. this the missing point for most organizations out there - it is not about listening, it is about doing something with what you heard. only way you can do this, stop collecting data and start living inside of it, become a part of the network as one more equal peer.
Third, i won't even go into SDL, I agree it is too academic right now - and that is sounds good. hope it takes off, but we are probably 3+ years from seeing it in any sort of critical mass.
Thanks for the read and comments, long time no see - hope all is well.
David, thanks for making me think I am sane!
Thanks for the read and comment - but more so for concuring with me on my view. I don't see where this goes if it is just to "engage" and "listen". action is what will drive the value, and action in this case has to come from collaboration. no other way about it.
Anytime you want to make me happy, just agree with me.
Thanks for the read!
Te role of the customers in the Social CRM era.
Great article Esteban and really interesting discussion. I was wondering to know what you guys think about the role of Crowdsourcing and the involvement of customers in the CRM processes in the Social CRM big picture. We at CrowdEngineering (www.crowdengineering.com) have been considering the role of the customer changed in the Social CRM era. In other words we see SCRM not just as extension of CRM with social channels and engagement of customers through social media techniques, but as a real change in the roles in the daily business processes. Customers can be part of the processes, can be the first level of contact for other customers needing support or advise, can help in the brainstorm about new products and services to launch, and much more. Do you see this as part of the Social CRM too? Francesca Bardino
Communication Manager
Delivering Value vs Co-Creating Value
Yes, indeed, Francesca - that is what we mean by co-creating value. Social CRM is a concept that has a different business philisophy, to the concept of mass marketing (and direct marketing).
Mass marketing/direct marketing/transactional selling was about the philisophy and economics of delivering value. Produce, sell, service.
Social CRM is about the philisophy and economcis of co-creating value. Here is a platform for a specific purpose, let's use it to build profitable networks eg Amazon.
CRM should have been a forerunner to Social CRM philisophy, but in practice was as an adjunct to mass marketing/transactional selling philisophy- that is why all the disappointment set in in early 2001. With the advent of social media, we are watching the same story. Social media can be:
1. a bolt on channel for mass marketing/transactional sales business philisophy
2. used with other CRM technology for supporting the 'co-creating of value' (this is where service dominant logic comes in)
Gartner's SCRM MQ encourages type 1 thinking (eg "vendors will have to show how social data is used in core business processes) rather than type 2 thinking. Although, to be fair to them, they do note what SCRM is about recriprocol benefits, and customer managed relationships. There are, for example, some technology vendors whom I consider support the the philisophy of social CRM very well, but they are not on Gartner's SCRM MQ.


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Comments Thread For: Tyson Marquez: I'll Beat Concepcion Easier This Time
WBA junior flyweight champion Hernan "Tyson" Marquez is only three weeks away from defending his title at the Hermosillo CUM. A rematch of his "Fight of The Year" candidate, as he takes on Luis "El Nica" Concepcion for a second time. Marquez is taking a strong step in his preparation, with two daily training sessions which are adding up to 16 rounds per day in the gym, between sparring and excercises.
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