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WOW Elizabeth, how sad your life must be if all you're left with is taking potshots at a woman who's actually become a huge success.
All your years of experience and the best you can do is blog here on Washington Wire. Nice. But sad.
While everyone is getting all caught up in the excitement and fanfare on Sarah Palin, I think I'm the only one to secretly worry about how eagerly she can stretch the truth. From being for the bridge, before she was against it, taking more ear marks per person for her state than any other, and now, that the personal chef that she said was let go to save the state money was only transfer to the legislature's lounge. It's not the magnitude of the untruths anymore, It's than they keep tumbling down, one after the other. I worry, if someone can so effortlessly stray from the truth just to get the applause of a crowd, what lies might they be willing to tell me after they get elected?
Palin is a disaster!
Sounds like another hastily erected house of cards.
Who debunked it?
"Like the Alaska jet put on eBay and her pit-bull opposition to pork like the Bridge to Nowhere, the T.T. of the T.T. is great theater, but not quite, not entirely, true."
"Like the Alaska jet put on eBay and her pit-bull opposition to pork like the Bridge to Nowhere, the T.T. of the T.T. is great theater, but not quite, not entirely, true."
How on Earth is putting the jet on eBay not true?
Um, Elizabeth -- Rudy Giuliani had teleprompter trouble, too. Has that been "debunked" yet?
Nothing, absolutely nothing, Sarah Palin said or did would make me vote for a two-bit hustler from Chicago who has all kinds of questionable connections to some of the worst people in this country and probably around the world. He is George Soros' puppet. George Soros hates this country and wants to bring it to its knees. The media has no common sense. In fact common sense died in this country years ago.
At one point I noticed, and remarked to a colleague, that it would jog a line or two ahead of where she had paused. I noticed that she seemed to use the pause afforded by applause to glance down at the papers in front of her. Having found the missing line or two (it was not more than that), she would resume.
Certainly she managed the hiccups smoothly, but this is not an example of winging it in the same vein as a Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, or Clinton might have.
Supposedly, after they heard the the story about the teleprompter malfunction, the story was "debunked" by a couple of reporters who were sitting off to the side of the stage who admittedly they were watching the teleprompter for the entire time and didn't see a problem. Sitting at home, I noted a problem that night and remarked what she was saying was not what was scrolling fast across the teleprompter. Of course they want to counter her story. How could she possibly deliver such a speech, so eloquently, if there was a problem.
thanks but no thanks....put palin on e-bay
And another thing, you people trash Sarah Palin, but the FBI and the CIA would have a field day investigating Obama. But, of course, he is the media's darling, and he is a Democrat. The FBI and CIA only investigate Republicans. If this country elects Obama, get ready to live under Sharia law. You'll be crying for John and Sarah, and maybe even poor ole dumb George.....
WOW Tony G, how sad your life must be; all your years of valuable experience reading blogposts, and all you can do is take potshots at a reporter who's actually out there on the road telling you what she's observing.
You have to almost pity these types, they have nothing left.
Poor Elizabeth, she is so jealous of Sarah, she is pathetic. As are all these so-called feminists.
Liar liar liar. How many stupid little lies will this woman tell to create an image she thinks will fool the American people? Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice ... well, W would have it that we can't be fooled again.
If the Republican National Convention was supposed to be a demonstration of the superior business savvy and professionalism of the GOP, please don't show me any more of that .. or, as Sarah would have it, thanks but no thanks. I've seen first-year analysts produce better presentations, with appropriate backdrops, well-researched images, functional technology and equipment. If this is what you do for your really big show, you have failed, get dinged, and the job goes to the team that demonstrated by its level of preparation that it really was qualified for the job.
Maybe Elizabeth thinks that reporters need to "balance" the onslaught of GOP easy press . . . oh wait. Anyway, if I need analysis like this, I can just put on any of the 3 major networks. But great stuff though, Elizabeth, really great stuff.
Whether or not it's true, they all stretch the truth....does anybody REALLY believe that Obama - the guy who is so damn smart - really never listened to Rev. Wright???? Obama hates America and will bring America to its knees.
please...stop this. Im sure that it is only Sen. Mccains camp that is doing any digging on Sen.Obama. The CIA,FBI,and democrats have planted the earmarks in Alaska, the republican majority of the Alaskan investigation have been bought out.
We know more about Sarah Palin and her family in less than 2 weeks than we have learned about Barrack Husein Obama-Muslim in 18 months of rock-star coverage from the media. What are 3 accomplishments (just 3) that Obama has done that qualifies him to be our President? What about his connection with Ayers? The media better get to work and do their job. Demand truth in reporting.
To the person questioning the sale of the jet on ebay. It was put on ebay, and it did not sell. She sold it for a substantial loss through a private party sale. Palin claims it was her sale through ebay that garnered her more than she paid for it. So, essentially a complete lie, because the crux of the story is not how she sold it, but that she sold it for a profit!
Why would they play up the ebay? Because Mccain is a computer illiterate, so bolstering him with someone young and hip enough to use ebay should assuage any fears about the CIC being unable to email.
Who do you trust? The media reporter who likes to dig up dirt and talk dirty about any Republicans? Or the Governor herself? I am still waiting for the media wolves to land in Chicago and find out what exactly the community organizer did or how many infanticide votes the Messiah has voted for - instead of present!
Does Elizabeth follow Obama around and listen to all his gaffes?? His uh,uh,uh,uh,'s and then says some stupid thing!! He is really lost without a teleprompter. He is an empty suit and has no qualifications whatsoever to be President. All I ask, is what kind of country do you Obama people want?? Do you have it that bad that you would vote for this whatever he is -- I don't even know and you don't either.
It is difficult to find truthful statements from Sarah. Possibly, she invents her own reality and then can not distinguish between what she invents and the truth. She repeated today her claim about stopping the bridge to nowhere as if her claims can be made true by repeating them over and over.
Sarah is magnificent! All the hatred in the world won't bring her down.
Shame on you, Elizabeth. She did put the plane on Ebay. She never said she sold it there. As for the bridge to nowhere, check this non-particent report:
To Lynne G - I'm trying to determine if you are a racist or just completely irrational based on your comments. Perhaps you are just one of the "average hockey moms" with a litter of kids that took six years and six schools to get a degree in ummm, Communications - one of the easiest degrees to get. As an educated professional voter, I'm not looking for average during these times - I'll take a Harvard graduate over this republican ticket any day.
For a great nation that prides itself on its greatness, there are a lot of really dumb people in this country.
For all you women who think that Sarah Palin is just like them, that's why they are going to vote for her. Ask yourselves this question? If she is like you, are you qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
You just make yourselves a laughing stock around the world.
Americans continue to vote against their own interests. What has the Republicans done to better your lives in the last eight years?
Some of you who are in dire straits would rather stay in such position than vote for Barack Obama, and you know why. You hide behind your silly little excuses.
Get a grip and educate yourselves for your own good.
it's absurd that there is so much emphasis placed on this vice presidential pick, EXCEPT if you contrast the two choices. Obama a guy who will help him govern, has been around washington forever and (despite his Iraq partition plan) knows a lot about the world outside of America. What was McCain's reason for picking Palin? To decrease the avg age of his ticket? To appeal to women voters annoyed that Hilary lost? To appeal to conservatives b/c of Palin's strange sense of values (no abortion or birth control, but no problem that her 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant, perhaps for the 2nd time)? I was on the fence b/c i'm annoyed that Obama voted for the pork filled farm bill and all of his 'present' votes in IL Senate, but come on.I like McC, but will die if Palin became Pres.
I just can't understand why McCain and Palin keep re-telling the same debunked lies, day in and day out! Do they really think America is that stupid?
Barack Obama has handled the onslaught of lies with dignity, humor, and quiet confidence. I truly admire his character and class. He will be a fantastic President.
McCain offers more of the same bad grasp of reality that led us into this financial crisis. I'm a Wall Street worker who is (fortunately still) employed by a multinational firm and most of my colleagues here in the U.S. and abroad avidly support Barack Obama. We need to be able to inspire confidence and positive influence on world markets, and the global markets are not encouraged by McCain's rhetoric or by his VP pick. Everyday Americans need to house, feed, clothe and educate their kids, provide for their healthcare needs, and, hopefully, leave them a country headed for energy independence through the use of renewable sources. I am getting very tired of hearing the GOP tell me "no we can't" be do all these things and be great again. This is America. Yes we can!
Gee, was I telling the truth and had to be censored???
How about a little truth in reporting...
1. There is no such thing as a "minor" teleprompter malfunction when giving a speech in front of millions of people. Duh!
2. Any thinking and observant person watching the Governor's speech could see she went off script. Duh Huh!
3. Did you actually use other reporters as "sources" for your teleprompter finding? Are you kidding me!!!???
4. The Alaskan jet was placed on E-Bay and Governor Palin did decline the funds for the "Bridge to No Where." Knock 'em out John!
Elizabeth, Elizabeth, your jealously of Governor Palin and your bias liberal pomposity is on full display in this piece. You should be embarrassed.
P.S. Please stop referring to "T.T.'s" when writing about Governor Palin. Your jealousy in that area is also evident.
I apologize for that last remark. I guess I was typing too fast!
My wife and I donated by web to McCain during primaries. We have been very disappointed by McCain's campaign since. His choice of this unqualified extreme right winger has finally turned us off. We will NOT vote for republican ticket. Given we make less than $650K per year, I'm thinking this obama fellow with his tax cut for our pay grade may not be a bad choice.
"She repeated today her claim about stopping the bridge to nowhere as if her claims can be made true by repeating them over and over."
Which seals her credentials as a tried and true Conservative Republican.
You libtards crack me up. Im not aware of one lie Sarah has told yet. You seek to tar her with the fake "lie" brush that you tarred W with....Im still waiting to hear what W lied about....
America knows that the democrat party is the party of lies....stop projecting!!!
Thank God Sarah Palin isn't running for President. "You can see Russia from Alaska"
And this is the BEST candidate for the VP of the US??????? Come on - be honest with yourselves! I'd be disappointed if Obama picked someone like this.
My wife and I were initially thrilled to be part of the Obama campaign.
However, Obama's lack of experience, his Marxist roots, and his choice of an unqualifed extreme left winger plagiarizer for VP has really turned us off.
I am thinking that McCain fellow who will not tax us out of existence is the preferable choice.
Just about as believable as those other "I was an XXXXX supporter" comments..."
To Nice VP Pick - An Obama surrogate angry over declining poll numbers. You can take your Harvard elitist back to the South Side of Jeremiah Wright's lovely little church. G.D. America....Obama will lose, my friend.
Nice VP Pick - She is an excellent governor overseeing an $11.2 billion operating budget and 28,000 employees. A lot more accomplished than the COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. That is all he is. Oh, a part-time state legislator who voted present over 130 times, plus one year in the U.S. Senate before running for President. No class, no experience, no victory in November....Sorry, Libs!
from Leilani Albano
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date Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM
subject don't forget you're brown
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i've read your stories throughout the years.
and i have to say, from one pinay journalist to another, you embarrass me and you embarrass our people.
i'm sorry the US media has used you, larry elders and other conservative drones of color to bolster their quota numbers.
what we need are more conscious journalists of color, not just another mainstream token acting as a cheerleader for the conservative right.
hopefully someday, you will find genuine connections with others and see how much damage you have done with your recklessly crafted pieces.
-leilani albano, kpfk radio los angeles
Yes, Sarah IS the best person he could have picked. A real American with solid American values....what is your problem with that?
But really, anything is better than the effete girl-men the dumtards put up for office (i.e. Kerry, Gore, Obama, "Plugs" Beiden)....come on already...enough is ENOUGH!!
Lets talk racism. Lets talk hypocritical Dempocrats, the most intolerant ideologues in political history.
Uh, you can see Russia from Alaska..
"Alaska and Russia are less than 3 miles apart at their closest point in the Bering Strait where two islands, Russia's Big Diomede Island and Alaska's Little Diomede Island, are located. In winter it is possible to walk across the frozen Bering Strait border between these two islands." - RUSNET
Do a little research next time!
Obama is a sissy. Very girlish, have you noticed? Is Michelle a man? We know she wears the oants in the South Side family. Michelle and Uncle Jeremiah!!!!
Since when has a black American become an elitist? Nice Spin.
To be honest, politicans' bragging of speaking without a teleprompter is laughable
since this harvard educated snob told his fellow sophisticates in san francisco that working class people bitterly cling to guns, religion, and intolerance of people that dont look like them....then there was the "typical white person" comment and the "dont look like the people on the dollar bills (oh wait, thats racist, not elitist, my bad)...so, are you saying that black people cant be elitist? YOU sir, are a racist...lol...see how that works?
politicans' bragging about speaking without a teleprompter is laughable in my opinion
To be honest, Bryan, when did Governor Palin "brag" about talking without a teleprompter?
Hey LynneG, can you please get over your mind blowing racism against black people & Muslims....?? Even if Obama turned out to be a Muslim, what does that have to do with anything at all? But then again, one of America's finest presidents had to deal with similar religious bigotry . JFK was attacked for a good while during his election period because he was a Roman Catholic & people figured he would be under the thumb of the Pope...
I hear she accepted the VP slot for the perks. Like being able to shoot a lawyer.
In what way was this anticdote "debunked"?
Your sources--all unamed reporters--say that there wwere teleprompter problems "THAT NIGHT" but they were "minor"?
Can we have a reporter's name and a published link please?
I have long been a McCain man, but his pick of Palin has cost him my vote.
When liberals can't handle facts, they pull the race card each and every time.
"Debunked" by who? Keith Olbermann?
Cite your source.
I have long been a Obama man, but his pick of Biden has cost him my vote.
I would feel much more confident in McCain if he had picked Romney or Huckabee (Huckabee if he was really going after the christian right wackos).
"Christian Right Wackos"
So it is okay to be an anti-Chriitian bigot. I keep forgetting that you leftists don't believe in praying for our troops.
Finally, in tomorrow's NYT, David Brooks, an honest conservative who sees the REAL DANGER in electing a light weight as a world leader. "Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness." Well put.
Palin is a two-bit salesman who dazzled and made a liar of McCain who claims he always put country first. We know now that the only thing that matters to him is winning this election. I was going to vote for him because I thought he was putting country first. But with Palin's inexperience, disregard for truthfulness, and McCain recent stretch of say anything, do anything to win has turned me off. We been doing this stuff for ever and our country is suffering. It is time for a change. While Obama is not my ideal choice, he has shown a great ability to grow, think, and select good people to work with him.
Perhaps you could learn how to spell Christian before you call me a bigot, a "leftist" (which by the way I'm not - I just don't support this poor choice of a VP) and accuse me of not praying for our troops. Shame on you.
To: Independent and former Obama Supporter - September 15, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Believe what you will. What I wrote is true - if I could get our money back from McCain we would. We do get calls from RNC and tons of mail as our names have gotten into his database.
Please check your facts--Palin did put the plane on eBay; she did put an end to the Bridge to Nowhere (and reallocated the funds to other projects); and she did take on the big-old-boy's club.
The teleprompter did have problems--minor or not people may see them differently. This is not point. Sarah Palin is a phenomenal woman. Please stop attack her.
of course you are a bigot and a leftist....only bigots and leftists use the term "christian right wackos" like you did...
so, mister left wing intolerant bigot, what about Sarah are you against? the fact that she is a washington outsider? that she has a real record of "change" and reform, unlike your community organizer who only has a record of corruption and beyond shady associates? oh, and how is selecting a 36 year veteran of the senate in any way shape or form, "change" hahahahaha....biden? what a laugh...
p.s. he has doll hair
regarding the "bridge to nowhere." did you know that biden and nobama both voted for it? nice
nj, how do you justify Obama's lack of executive experience?
Guliani had the same difficulty with the teleprompter, but this sad Williamson with no better job than to blog and who wasn't there didn't google that--it is even on CNN. Some women who have not been able to make it in their profession, like Williamson, are just so angry with Governor Palin and her success.
oh come on rick....nobama has executive experience....hes run a campaign for nineteen months, didnt you hear? hahahahahahahahahahaha
Dear Independent and Former McCain Supporter,
I don't pretend to know your intentions.
I do understand how a former Obama supporter could switch to McCain based on Obama's shallowness and Obama's VP pick.
To think that this newspaper is supposed to be read by highly educated people. To read this list of comments you would think it was read by a bunch of junior high kids who got sent back to elementary school.
Dear Educated Readership,
Did you read the Elizabeth Williamson post? It deserves nothing less than an elementary school response. Come on, she used other reporters as sources...
Question for NICE VP PICK,
"As an educated professional voter, I'm not looking for average during these times - I'll take a Harvard graduate over this republican ticket any day. Comment by Nice VP Pick - September 15, 2008 at 10:24 pm "
What is the going rate for a "professional voter" in Chicago these days? Inquiring minds want to know.
To Indie Frmr O Supposed - The reality is that the VP pick is a minimal thing other that the very first public decision. It is valuable in the sense that it should reflect a choice of a next in line, but too often it is fodder for the media. The clear evidence is that Palin, for all her accomplishments, is exactly that - fodder. Chaff is more likely to listen to her perfectly executed scripts
As for shallowness in Obama - I can only assume you are the operative who counters every pro obama line? With matching user names to boot?
To Rick: and this is a reason to stoop low?
Or more of an opportunity to follow it up with nah nah nah?
You know the line about lemmings and cliffs, yah?
When liberals can't handle facts, they pull the race card each and every time.
Comment by Rick - September 15, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Are you holding this as fact?
Has anyone checked the polls? Bush, Iraq War, Economy McCain is 72--Obama should be ahead by 12 points. Clearly he is not--McCain and Palin are winning the Electorial college and popular vote by 2-3%. Maybe it does not matter what the great minds on this blog think? Obama's star has fallen, Biden is a loser pick. You people are desperate.
the reality is that the VP pick is far more than a "very first public decision." the reality is that very often, the vice presidential pick is thrust into the forefront of american politics....the only reason that palin has become "fodder" for the media as you say, is the media is left-biased and they see it as their duty to destroy any charismatic conservative public figure just as they did with ronald reagan, robert bork, clarence thomas, and dan quayle....
sarah palin is very dangerous to the left, and thus you see the left's attempts to destroy her...
that last comment was mine....and yes, educated reader (?) the left is always the first to use the race card, the gender card, the age card...after all, they make their living on dividing the american people....how else could they ever get votes?
To Educated Readership:
Due to your apparent superiority complex and total lack of a sense of humor, I suspect that you are an Obama supporter. Am I correct? Unlike Elizabeth Williamson's article, I expect you to answer honestly!
Some of those posts are pretty funny. I am still laughing at the "T.T." comment.
From what I understand she did put the jet on ebay, but later sold it to a broker. She did get the money for the bridge, but decided to use it for other more worthy projects, and that teleprompter did have some kind of issue, minor or not. I remember watching her trying to read it. Its not like she can rewind it while speaking. The press really has to reach to find something don't they.
absolutely correct, RC...the attempts by the libtards to call Sarah a liar are very pathetic...but its all they got....they cant dispute her on the facts or values at the risk of revealing their true face to the american people...socialists dont dare tell you what they really think....they ARE a lie, with every word they speak
As if Obama and Biden are "entirely" true about anything they say. Not even remotely...
Ever notice that the Republican's campaign is always about fooling their dumbest constituents.
Most people believe that Obama will raise their taxes. Why is that? Because they are dumb. You'd think someone who was poor and unemployed would have the spare time to look up which candidate best addresses their economic interests... but they dont.
Last two elections they fooled Ohio into thinking that they would reform Washington, bring honor to the Whitehouse, and strengthen the economy.
How did that work out for you Ohio?
This time, they are trying the Ohio bait-and-switch again, but they are also trying to fool women into thinking that Palin represents their best interests.
Ultimately, I think this will backfire. Women are high-information voters.
Is this a WSJ blog or Blogs4Obama? I can't believe this crap is posted on WSJ...
When will this woman just "go away?"
obama is gonna raise taxes....why do i think so? cause he said he was....and, thats what socialists do....Of course Sarah represents women's best interests, just as all conservatives do....heck, just the fact that she isnt a manly, pant-suit wearin, tripod bodied, hillary lookin bull dagget sends the message that real women can be strong leaders too....dont ya think? p.s. what is a "high information voter?" you cant just make up stuff, buddy
this woman will "go away" after eight years as vice-president and another eight years as president...lessee....thats sixteen years....then to the lecture circuit and showing jimmy carter how an ex-president acts....hope that helps
FACT: Obama will raise taxes on single people making over $200,000 a year and on families making $250,000 a year. He wants to eliminate taxes for those making under $50,000 a year. He will not raise taxes for those earning less than $200,000 (single) or $250,000 (couples). It's all on his website and the facts have been confirmed by the independent, non-partisan FactCheck.org. Check it out.
I wish we could all find some legit criticism of any candidate these days, but sadly, the mainstream media cried "wolf" long before they ever set their eyes on Palin. Can you blame them? It must be embarrassing for full-grown adults to carry on in an infantile love affair with their cuddly l'il Obama Bear, a political plush toy who's filled with nothing but media stuffing. This teleprompter tale is not only one more example of how the media is in the tank for its Marshmallow Messiah, it also explains why most American voters now automatically disbelieve anything the media report about this election.
How I understood her comment, she said she never could see the top 2 lines of the prompter. These so called reporters could have had a better angle than she did.
Also Obama said on tv that he considered people middle class making an income between $200,000 and $250,000 a year. This shows how out of touch with the middle class he really is and you dont tax people for being productive. That is political suicide.
What kind of Stalinist version of 'true' do you believe in? Gov Palin put the state plane on E-Bay -- it's a fact, get used to it! Crikey, how much more 'true' does something have to be before the press will stop distorting it.
She never claimed nor implied by any action or word that the state successfully sold the plane on E-bay. If some ignorants journalists leaped to that assumption, they make an incorrect inference. But she never implied that at all.
Please the 'truth', the real truth next time.
The conservative WSJ has questioned the truth of Palin's credentials as a reformer with its story on earmarks and her claim on the bridge to nowhere. Politifact rates her claim on the bridge as a full flip flop. Obama's tax plan would do more for the middle class whereas McCain would do the most for people earning 2.8 million a year. so he is lying in his ad when he says everyone would pay higher taxes under Obama's plan. Check out the comprehensive report at the non-partisan taxpolicycenter. and the article on the front page of the NYT this last Sunday is really scary about Sarah. The taxpolicy report is too much for some of you to read. I realize that many of the posts are just anti-information because information pokes holes in the false image that has been so carefully crafted
This article is crap. If you are going to make claims, then state your source, otherwise its just lousy reporting, and not news.The WSJ should fire this reporter.
The blog is nice. The screeching of your right-wing commenters hurts my ears. Apparently they're incapable of doing any research and finding out that indeed many elements of the Palin Myth are exaggerations at best and pure fabrications at worst.
Only 16 or 17 days into the campaign and she has lied over and over and over and over WITHOUT hesitation, so she is no truth-telling reformer, she is praciced.
Sixteen days and she's lying to us already. She claims or the campaign claims she is "real", well, sorry folks I just don't want their version of real.
I am sick to death of politicians lying to me and making me feel betrayed and angry when it turns out everything they said was just one big fat lie after another to get my vote, my one chance to make a decision in MY own interests.
I am not handing it over to some lying inexperienced rookie and a guy who has been right in the thick of the party that has ruined our economy.
I wish that those who were trying to defend Palin/McCain and the lies could actually DO SO. They never offer defense, just childish rebuttals in the line of "I'm Rubber Your Glue..."
Please, republicans, can any of you defend/explain the actions of your ticket, without the defense of "Oh yeah, well Obama is a snotty Muslim and Michelle Obama is a man." Huh? that does not explain your candidate. It only explains how stupid you are. Real arguments, please, based on facts. Not rumors.
Lousy reporting: Ever thought of checking factcheck.org?
Palin and McCain are taking up a LOT of space there with their litany of lies and haalf-truths
Palin did NOT decline the funds for the bridge to nowhere. She actively campaigned in support of it - go ask the people of Ketchikan. When it became politically expediant to be against it and after it was pretty much dead in the water she reversed herself. But more fundamentally, she DID take the money, which is the crux of the issue. She claims to be a against big government handouts and yet takes the money anyway, whether it builds a bridge or not. As for the jet on eBay, she herself never said she "sold" it on eBay, but she clearly implied it. And if she didn't use the word "sold" that paragon of truth John McCain did, stretching it to say she'd made a profit. If you want 4 more years of the worst government the country has ever had, vote McCain/Palin. Otherwise vote Obama.
Knowingly fabricating, exaggerating and telling half-truths, according to my parents when they raised us was LYING. And God help you, the worst thing you could be in our family was a liar because,as they said, "If you'll lie, then you'll steal". There is something of a sleeze factor when the "great reformer"/ champion of snall town people is brought in and it is all debunked, the bridge, the keeping the money, the teleprompter, the nasty tone when giving the first speech to the public, the obvious lack of knowledge in the ABC interview and stonewalling the Alaska investigation when up to August 28th she was absolutely committed to the cooperating. Sorry, we just saw 16 days of drama from a "new" candidate on the stage, she refuses to do interviews/take questions - I don't trust her.
Republicans and their greed, incompetence and corruption have brought this country to wreck and ruin. And now you want four more years to finish the job of destroying the economy, our military, and what's left of our image overseas. You should be ashamed to call yourselves a political party. You're a criminally incompetent gang run amok.
I'm watching Palin, and keeping mental tabs of what she says. Her sequestration has turned out to be a good thing, since her remarks so far have largely consisted of clips from her prepared (by Bush advisors) convention speech.
She zinged, she zanged, and she worried me as I imagined her roaring across the country on her rhetorical power alone.
Then she began. Sporadic engagements here and there, with little news coverage, except for the crowed sizes, which turned out to be exaggerated by the McCain Campaign. No matter, I listened anyway, and quickly realized she has nothing to say. I changed my tack then; instead of listening for content, I began to listen for accuracy, and that's when I began to figure her out.
She is an attractive opportunist, content to lie for her own purposes
I am continually amazed by the pettiness of the McCain/Palin campaign and what they lie about. Does it make them feel better about their lack of substantial policies to lie about things like teleprompters and crowd size? And for those who are defending them, why would you want to continue with the same people who gave you the last 8 years of economic strife? Really, what has to happen in order for you to wake up and stop defending sub-standard intellects and morally defunct politicians like McCain and Palin?
The hoodwinked righty flamers on here crack me up. Are you people really that delusional? Ebay plane, didn't sell there, sold by a campaign contributor for $600k loss. Proven. Look it up. Anti-earmark? Palen has asked for millions upon millions of earmarks this year alone. Proven. Look it up. These Raging Republicans that post the flatsam and jetsam of what their conservative commentators spoon-feed them apparently really can't think for themselves, do their own research, or see past their bias. Check out factcheck.org and other fact finder sites before you start your vapid spewing. You only make yourself look uninformed if you don't.
Reading these comments by Rick, Lynne and Bagster makes me feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone. I am not a liberal, I am a moderate and I am astounded by how much Kool-Aid you folks are willing to drink. Pay attention to what is going on. Your out of touch and self-deluded candidates are about to continue the humiliation and destruction of this country. Grow up.
On an aside,if the Governor of Alaska has such a grasp of substantive issues, why is it she is STILL using the same speech she gave at the Republican Convention?
When the GOPs new Golden Calf can stop repeating the same speech, with the same debunked falsehoods, maybe she'll gain some credential with the media and the US citizenry.
Curth, I think the word you were looking for there is "partisan", not "particent".
This is so funny - after McCain picks a vanity candidate, her new fans follow suit by squealing and whining that anyone would dare criticize their new idol.
Like most media-obsessed pop culture types, Sarah Palin and her team of adorers throw these tantrums every time anyone DARES question her.
Get a sense of humor.
How do you tell John McCain is lying?
His lips are moving.
I think Palin could be great -- what a smile! -- but I don't understand why she goes along with these obvious lies. I do not think it's her instinct, but am sure the Schmidt people are pushing these phony lines.
Wow, Sarah Palin lying? I am UTTERLY SHOCKED!!!
The fact that the McCain campaign seriously expects us to believe that "Palin is the most experienced person in the country on energy" - my goodness, are they serious? The moon is made of cheese....do you believe that? This campaign is a complete and total sham; every day. There is absolutely no redeeming quality in this campaign that makes me believe we would not have a lying, gutter politics presidency. To me, how you run your compaign is how you would run the country and I've voted both sides but I've decided to pass on the sleezy/lying campaign.
Biden is incredibly experienced and a decent man and Obama has stayed out of the gutter and I trust his word. A classy duo I would finally be proud of to represent America. We need to turn the page on the Republicans
How dare you? This article is disrespectful and sexist. John McCain was a POW, and you are disrespecting him by your misogynist article about Sarah Palin's lies. Why is it only bad when women lie? John McCain lies all the time, and you don't write an article about it - which you shouldn't, because he's an ex-POW.
Re: GOPer FROM PA
"I think Palin could be great — what a smile! — but I don't understand why she goes along with these obvious lies. I do not think it's her instinct, but am sure the Schmidt people are pushing these phony lines."
"I think Palin could be great — what a smile! — but I don't understand why she goes along with these obvious lies. I do not think it's her instinct, but am sure the Schmidt people are pushing these phony lines."
Comment by GOPer from PA - September 16, 2008 at 9:49 am"
Which do you think is worse - that they don't trust her enough to let her say anything unless Steve Schmidt approves it first, or that it she's doing it on her own?
Remember "I took the initiative in creating the internet? Al Gore said it once, and for the entire year no one could talk about Al Gore without repeating that line and laughing. What if he said it EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH? Meet Governor Palin.
Why is it that the Republicans made their main argument against Obama his "celebrity" status and now they have hired their own "celebrity" and are behaving in exactly the way that the criticized and lambasted Democrats for?
Why is it that McCain has changed his campaign platform to hijack Obama's? Why has McCain started borrowing catch phrases from Obama's speeches?
My guess is that the GOP has finally fun out of gas. After 8 years of Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Abramoff, Rumsfeld, Rice, Chertoff, Brownie, et al the American people have finally had enough of being sold out to the highest bidder.
Lie after lie after lie and you right-wingers just lap 'em up.
Congress cut the funding for the bridge to nowhere but Sarah still took those funds to use elsewhere-so much for the bridge and earmark lies.
The plane was on eBay 4 times, didn't sell (which cost the state money) and was finally dealt by a broker for $600K less than the planes value. Sarah claims it was sold on eBay and made a profit for the state.
The McCain campaign and Repub shills have now taken to calling Obama "uppity". One southern senator has claimed he didn't know that the phrase he used was offensive. HAH, give me a break.Even a northerner like myself knows that even if you leave off the word that goes with "uppity", it is still offensive.
You thugs need to just admit that you will never vote for a "ni**er"!
People seem to have a problem w/the truth all of the obama haters are using every excuse in the haters handbook except the real reason why they dislike him
The teleprompter did not mess up, rather Gov. Palin had difficulty seeing what was on it as a group of supporters held signs that when behind the teleprompter screen, made the teleprompter difficult to see. I imagine the reporters who dispute the teleprompter malfunction were merely standing right up there with the Governor as she gave her speech.
How much do you think the Governor's tanning bed would get on Ebay? I bet it would sell for more if you had the seal of the Governor's Office embossed on it. Signed by Sarah Palin maybe? And Ivana Trump?
Now that's CLASS.
Thsi is the first time I have been to this site but, what I have observed from the comments concerning the various candidates is that we have a long way to go in this country. While everyone has the right to their opinion, the hatred and vile comments directed toward a person based on nothing, mis-information or plain fear is frightening and sad.
Obama has a teleprompter malfunction of his own: He can't speak without one.
His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.
Anonymous the VIII, how many versions of the teleprompter story are we going to hear before it goes the way of "Palin has experience because she's commanded the national guard."
I agree....all these pundits scratching their heads as to why Obama isn't further ahead....no one mentions the elephant in the room...his race. There are a lot of outright racists in this country, and a lot of people who are racist but don't admit it to themselves, not even questioning if the reason they suddenly like an unknown white woman is because she's white. What if Sarah Palin were black, with the exact same attributes--"maverick" claims, moose-hunting, 5 kids, etc.... do you think all the right wingnuts would be agog at how wonderful she is??? They would be running for the hills. Just admit it, a lot of you "can't vote for Obama people"--his strange name and his race make you uncomfortable. Ask yourselves why????
Conservatives Turn On McCain-Palin: 'Like Bush' ... "Ugly"
Is Palin or McCain capable of telling the truth? Ever? Why lie about something so trivial? Is she this much of an empty suit that she has to make up anecdotes to make herself seem real? I cannot stomach another four years of this kind of charade governance. Someone please make it stop.
Not to worry, you can trust that our Citizen's are much more focused on platform, ideology, experience level, and track record than the noise both candidates spew.
Listen you Republican will drive off the cliff defending Palin. It is sexist to look into Palin's record but it's called exposing the truth when the press spent a month playing Reverend Wright tapes over and over for almost a full month.
For the first 3 days on Fox they had the tapes in loop mode. Every time I would turn on Fox I would hear the good old Reverand's greatest hits.
Now you think you guys are whining now image if she actually was put under the same 2 year spot light Obama has been put on.
Obama has had to appear of Fox and every other major news network. Especially during the Reverend Wright scandal. I wonder if she would want her sending the troops into God's war commits looped day after day. That surely would be the case if Obama said them.
To LynneG: George Soros does not hate America - he simply exercises critical thinking which you religious zealots seem to shun!
Why would George Soros pay for the Harvard education of a "third world citizen" like myself? I live/work and am nowan educated citizen of America....
What have you done for your country? Oh that's right in your view Republican=True American and thats good enough????
Seriously all the Anti Obama people on here, need to get a clue, EVERYTHING I have rad from any of you is trite, fox news talking points or email meme proven as lies by the mainstream media, admitted as lies by the liars, and even disregarded by your own candidate. THE FACT STILL REMAINS THAT SARAH PALIN HAS NO EXPERIENCE, HAS NO BUSINESS BEING IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IF YOU MORONS ELECT HER IT WILL BE THE END OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY. OPPOSITION AND THE ABILITY TO THINK FOR YOURSELF ARE REASONS THIS COUNTRY IS GREAT. HOWEVER YOU HAVE FAILED COMPLETELY EVERYTIME YOU BLATHER SOME HALF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA. THE NEXT GREAT PRESIDENT OF THIS UNITED STATES.
LynneG, the funny thing is about your claims about the FBI and the CIA would have a field day investigating Obama - they have. Seriously, you are pathetic if you buy into all those stupid chain letters that are going around. Certainly the 'vetting' of Palin is a media focus now, but Obama has been going through the same idiot vetting process for the past year. If any of the 'secret Muslim' or 'ties to terrorism' were true Obama would be locked up way before he even entered the senate. With the hyper security this country has been in since 9/11 someone like Obama would not be in a place of power. So grow up and if the McCain campaign got to doing their job of presenting issues instead of slinging idiot mud, they could win this thing, but no they want to stoop to idiot levels to dredge up easily disproved lies. See now they have to stop and try to clear these idiot lies or mistakes that the media is trying to dredge up on Palin, so yeah, you have to grow up LynneG and take this crap with a grain of salt and not believe ANY of the lies, even those against that guy you won't be voting for anyway in November.
WOW REPUBLICANS WAY TO GO! HOW TO CONTROL THE MASSES IN TWO EASY STEPS. STEP 1> INSTILL FEAR IN THE MASSES. (check) STEP 2> INSTILL HATRED TOWARDS THOSE THAT ARE DIFFERENT. (check). CONGRATULATIONS, YOU NOW HAVE THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM FOR 2000-2008. HATE FEAR HATE FEAR 911 HATE FEAR MUSLIM HATE FEAR HATE FEAR TAXES HATE FEAR HATE FEAR ABORTION HATE FEAR HATE FEAR. wake the f##% UP AMERICA. You are feeding into their pack of lies.
To the absolute idiots who keep claiming Obama is a Muslim: knock it off! He's not, and everyone with a brain (that leaves you out) knows it. But if he were, SO WHAT? Only a bigot would make this an issue.
As for the knee-jerk responses of people who are angry that Sarah Palin would be called on her self-congratulatory lies, why wouldn't you want the press to point out the facts? Palin sold the plane for a loss after she couldn't sell it on eBay, so her point misrepresents reality. And Palin didn't have to improvise because of a teleprompter malfunction. When she uses half-truths to make herself look better, she's manipulating the truth and manipulating her audience
Reading the comments posted to this site, I am reminded of an old Middle East joke.
Ibrahim is trying to take his afternoon nap. Children are running in and out of the house, shouting chaotically, preventing Ibrahim from falling asleep.
"I know," Ibrahim whispers to himself. "I will tell the children they are giving away free olives in the marketplace and they will then leave me in peace."
The next time the children run into the house, Ibrahim shouts "Children, why are you here? They are giving away free olives in the market place?" And with that, the children run away again, leaving Ibrahim in peace.
Just as he's about to fall asleep, he bolts upright and exclaims: "What am I doing here. They are giving away free olives in the marketplace!"
You people are Ibrahim.
John McCain and Sarah Palin have been lying to Americans almost Every day. These are NOT half-truths--theey are LIES!
God help us if naked ambition and a pretty face is enough to be qualified for Vice President of the United States.
Get educated. This woman is a political opportunist. Do your research and see what kind of leader she was in Alaska. I being a woman would never vote this woman. McCain has sold his county out with this choice. Such a disgrace both of them....
Alright, I've sat quietly by long enough. I'm sick of people (women even!) scoffing at women who display anything but utter affection for Sarah Palin. Women aren't going to vote for Sarah Palin any more than a black person would vote for a black man running for office on the idea of re-instituting slavery.
PS: Malkin just did talking points on herself, she is such a curl!
We have an economy in turmoil and are on the brink of financial devastation. 10 banks have closed and we have just lost 2 of our largest and oldest investment firms. Both sides need to address the ISSUES!!!
The Obama's have attended and supported Rev. Wright's TUCC church for 20 years. The TUCC.org history clearly states that they are a "Unashamedly Black" church and have adopted the "Black Value System". Most citizen's do not belowing to race-based religious organizations. It's completely valid to include this in your decision process.
Character of a man: McCanin hired Tucker Bounds the same man who used push polling to smear his wife Cindy and his Daughter. This shows that McCain will do anything to win, even hire hire a man that defamed his family. I cannot vote for a man like that. It shows that he has no integrity. His first job is to protect his family, and he has only brought disgrace. Independents for Obama 08!!!
When you walk into that voting booth, what will you ask yourself. Should I vote my conscience or should I vote my pocket book. The answer should be both.If the answer is yes to both then their is only one vote you can make and that is Obama/Biden. Sarah has been caught in repeated lies about the bridge to nowhere, earmarks, the Ebay jet sale and is hiding from the truth on troopergate. We have had 8 years of lying from the Bush administration and constitution destruction. Now we have an economy in shamble laregly due to deregulation of the bannking industry under the repeal of the Glass Speagall Act. We have gone from budget surplus to continuous deficits. Who is going to pay for this. Do you want your children burdened with $10 trillion in debt and growing?
Distraction not discussion seems to be the mantra of McCain/Palin: the Incontinent and the Incompetent.
Not entirely true, means that it is false, which means that they are not telling the truth, which my 4 year old will tell you is lying.
How can they distance themselves from themselves?
Talk about about the bridge to nowhere watch what happens if MCain/Palin gets the nod f*** the bridge to nowhere we WILL be riding down the highway to hell.......
Phil Gramm and Sarah Palin.
Good going McCain, keep it up.
Please someone wake me when an inarguable truth spouts forth from those lips. I don't want to miss it, as it should be held up for all to see, wonder and to celebrate.
The saddest thing is that Palen confesses to being against corruption in Washington yet further vetting is showing she's committed the same if not more in her brief time as Gov. of Alaska. Not a great first impression to come out lying to the people. McCain and his good ole boy club chose Palen for one simple reason, she fits right in to their club. Not only does she allow them to use her as a woman, not for her political accomplishements that we now are learning are not true, but because of her gender, and because in the good ole boy club you lie to the people, you give special favors to friends, family and lobbyists (as both McCain and Palen have done) and you agree to go along with whatever they want you to do or say. Palen is demeaning women to allow her gender to be used in this way.
McCain isn't lowering your taxes. China is giving you all small loans courtesy of the NEW republican party. You dont have to believe me...I encourage all of you to look up on wikipedia or any other source at our debt. How did it get so high?? Your beloved bush has sold you all to Japan and China. . .Thats how hope you all enjoy your $300 stimulus check.
Sarah Palin is such a lightweight that she has to stretch the truth, joke about her opponent and put the press traveling with her under police guard so they don't ask her any hard questions.
All of this, while there are serious problems in the world that require honest, competent leaders to solve them.
John McCain and Sarah Palin are dishonorable cowards who cannot even stand to face the press corps, much less hostile leaders around the world.
sad to be an American...i consider all of these lying Con-artists, I mean con-servatives to be traitors.
"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? A tanning bed!" (Thank you for that, Elizabeth Snead.) McCain/Palin: Unstable and Unable.
Folks, it is not cool to go back and forth about who is racist, bigots, etc, and who is not and in the same breath talk about Obama being a muslim. There are millions of Muslim-Americans. We are people too. Just because you all refuse to admit you may not want to vote for a black man... it is not cool to blame it on his being muslim. Why is it ok to appease the blacks, but offend the muslims and all who practice islam...not radical islamism? Separate church from state all you strict constitution readers. Not to mention stop talking about Obama's community organizing... that was a 24 year old man's job...not the man running for office now.
Tony G (first post above),
how amazing that you are able to type with a keyboard to slag on an accomplished female journalist. your "successful" capacity to waste time trolling online for woman to offend overwhelms me.
For all the hater-ade out there - there is a TINGE OF TRUTH to this comparison.
Why it looks so familiar, is because its the Republican double-standard rhetoric we have seen over each and every election.
Personally, I want a smart President, not one that is disconnected from the American public. I want a President that connects with his constituents, not one that talks about it.
In any case, Gov. Palin's favorability numbers are already dropping. This has occurred once the public has gotten a closer look at her and seen what type of politician she really is. (I'll leave you to fill in the blank)
Notice: There is no name calling here, just my two cents. Which is more for which Repubs will throw at you. Watch out for the Repub-haters out there!
Metaphorically speaking: If McCain-Palin are elected, they will make Bush-Cheney look like Gandhi-Lama.
what's the difference between a hockey mom named Palin and a pitbull? when a pitbull barks, no one knows if it's lying.
For eight years we have had lies, incompetence, and corruption. Sarah Palin is more of the same. She is an outright liar. She appointed "Great job Brownie" unqualified people to senior positions. And she uses power to settle personal scores. We don't need an experienced liar one heart beat away.
Did you guys know that Obama likes to fart in the bath tub and then bite the bubbles? It's true!
(Are you people subscribers to the WSJ?) McCain and Palin will be better for the economy.
little sheep, little sheep
repeat your right wing mantras
little sheep, little sheep
funny how your leaders
tell you what to think
repeat the mantra of the day
so others may die
so you can stay
waste your time
kneel and pray
then listen for your mantra
of the day
The plane on eBay is just another example of half-truths Governor Palin continues to spout even after the whole truth has been brought to light (and in some cases, directly debunked in her one interview). The plane was placed on eBay but didn't sell and eventually was sold via some kind of a broker. She may have said, "thanks but no thanks" to the bridge but only after fully supporting it in her campaign for governor, and she kept the money. The list goes on and on (Visited Ireland, visited Iraq, etc. etc.).
"How on Earth is putting the jet on eBay not true?"
The devil is in the details...Palin's claim originally was that she SOLD the plane on eBay for a PROFIT. While she did PLACE AN AD on eBay for the plane, it did not sell on eBay. And it was sold at a loss. And Palin's nose grows a little more...
By now we should be able to notice the pattern of behavior when Sarah Lies. She has been doing it since day one. If we go back and look at the clips we can probably see the characteristics...does she squint, do her eyes open wide, etc. Just thought we might as well use the fact that she keeps telling lies even though they have already been proven to be lies publicly...Makes no sense to me.
Sen McCain/Gov Palin's new campaign motto must be -- "We'd rather lose our integrity than lose this election."
I must agree with the blogger who commented on the relatively sophomoric prose ( and awful spelling)of the Palin backers, compared with the Obama backers; especially with regard to this source (WSJ.)I also commend the insight into why McCain/Palin bother telling such trivial lies. It is perplexing, and does little to instruct the potential swing voters in the details of their platform. It merely serves to validate the ideological drift of their own bloc, so no net gain is the result. Overall, the distraction of Palin has been a media coup for the GOP, though certainly - and ironically - undermining the "shallow rockstar" moniker thay have been using to describe Mr. Obama.
more pork
more lies
whiney little right wing rats
whiney little kitties
boo hoo hoo
blame blame blame
little fascist puppet dumbies
bigots, racsist homophobes
religious gullible
morons aplenty
with no free thought
letting other morons give you your ideas and hatred
hannity, limbaugh, oreilly
traitor leaders for a cause of murder and corporatism.
Oh, of course, it MUST be Sarah Palin lying, because, of course, reporters would never, ever do anything one bit unethical, so we should always believe anyone employed by the media over Sarah Palin, right??!!
To change the subject just a little, Sarah Palin apparently was pregnant when she married her current husband. A news story the other day providing a biography of Palin said that the two were married and that eight months later a child was born. So .... presumably she was pregnant when she married.
Not that that's a big deal to me, but it may be a real problem for some of the religious fundamentalists.
Another tidbit ----- the real reason that John McCain chose to stay behind in the 'Hanoi Hilton' when he was offered an early release ----- allegedly it's because he didn't want to leave his gay lover behind!
Again, nothing wrong with having being gay or having a gay lover, but there is something wrong with being a hypocrite and being anti-gay rights.
We all know how quick on her feet she is by referencing the interviews with Charlie Gibson. She was a disaster. But only those who understand the issues would recognize that. She is Bush squared! Make a decision. Don't blink. We need some blinkers these days. Shocking.
Dear "It is possible to walk to Russia from Alaska. Seeing Russia is no problem! - "
Duuhh... No one is questioning that you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska. Anyone with a brain knows this...
What intelligent people are questioning is the RELEVANCE of this fact! Contrary to the Beauty Queen's assertion, the fact that you can see Russia from Alaska does NOT count as FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE!
Lynne G:
Do yourself a BIG favor. Go read Obama's books - of which he is the ACTUAL AUTHOR!! Then go read McCain's and Palin's books - that is, the books they wrote by themselves. (Hint: There AREN'T any!) McCain's and Palin's ghost-written books are typical of folks who just aren't up to the task of being an author.
more pork
more lies
whiney little right wing rats
whiney little kitties
boo hoo hoo
blame blame blame
little fascist puppet dumbies
bigots, racsists, homophobes
religious gullible
morons aplenty
with no free thought
letting other morons give you your ideas and hatred
hannity, limbaugh, oreilly
traitor leaders for a cause of murder and corporatism
followed by whiny gaggle of mentally deficient children of the GOP.
the pattern of behavior you need to watch for is when she opens her mouth. that is when a lie will be told.
Republicans are truly disgusting. I mean selecting Palin was a truly cynical, irresponsible move.
Country first my ass.
WOW, I am truly amazed by peoples willingness to believe lies. It is indisputable that the McCain/Palin ticket has taken the low road in this capmaign. Even Karl Rove agrees. The racism in some of these posts is palpable.
Anybody wonder why the "party of Jesus" can't seem to remember what Jesus represents? Do we excuse Palin's false witness because she is a Christian? Or because we like her? Or is it because she fishes?
If Christians believe that country is second to Christ, why do they support a candidate that has a campaign slogan of Country First?
Is Obama not a Child of God? What qualifies as loving one's country? Service? Killing? Slander? Lying?
Did Yahweh not say love your neighbor as yourself, and is not God a God of Love?
When did Christians sell their soul for thirty pieces of power?
God is not a Republican or a Democrat, he is not against people but sin, he didn't send His Son to die only for conservatives, or American's, or those who are good, but to redeem the world!
It is so sad and embarassing that the so-called "beacon of freedom and democracy" is inhabited by so many bigots and racists that it makes the white apartheid government of the 20th century seem like saints. These Taliban-like narrow-minded collective of humanity would rather destroy everything that the US stands for than live in the 21st century. It is so sad that there are so many uninformed and poorly educated people in a land that has everything and every opportunity more than half the world is denied. A major part of the problem is the constant mis-information that Americans constantly sprout about being the greatest this or that, when in reality the only thing the US leads the world in is spending on military and war making. It does not have the best of anything except conceit.
Mccain is a liar ,he cheated on his wife,hes an opportunist.The republicans have screwed us for eight years.If your making an hourly wage,why in gods name would you vote for them?The average people in the red states who vote republican are drinking the coolade.
She did put the jet on ebay. She led everyone to believe she sold it on ebay. She stood on the same stage as John McCain while he said she sold it on ebay and made a profit. She did not whisper in his ear like Lieberman would have that she did not sell it on ebay and that she did not make a profit. She stood there and let the possible next president of the US lie to the American public. She is pro earmarks claims to be anti. She was for the bridge to nowhere until it collapsed in congress. She asked the librarian if she would oppose banning books. When the librarian said yes she was fired. The librarian only got her job back when the city threatened to recall Palin. While she may not have been a member of the Alaska Independence party her husband was. This is a group that wants out of The US
Sarah Pailin who could not
teach her own daughter how
to abstain from fornication
is supposed to be the role model for mothers? where is
Dr. James Dobson of Focus on
the Family.
McCain and Pailin are against
abortion but are ardent
supporters of the iraq war.Has
anybody asked them of how many
pregnant mothers died with their babies in their wombs as
result of the bombs we dropped
on Iraq and Afganistan. How
many woman aborted their babies due to the shock brought on by our bombs-Shock
and awe? Again I will ask,where is Dr. James Dobson?
May be he only preaches against things done by Democrats. In the Bible,JESUS
She did put the plane on Ebay and LIED when she and McCain said it sold for a profit when actually it did not sell then. She later sold it at a loss to a private investor.
The Bridge to no where? She was a cheerleader for it as evidenced by video, her picture of her wearing her "Bridge to Nowhere" shirt and her own admission prior to being tapped to be the new Cheny speaking Doll.
Now the TT story? No one believes her except those who were never voting for Obama to begin with. The woman is a liar.
McCain is the true "Manchurian Candidate." He was brainwashed while in the Hanoi Hilton; and now he has been "switch on" with a mission to destoy the US economy under the guise of "reform." There is no other explanation for how he has gone from the leader of the "Straight Talk Express" to a serial fabricator of his and Obama's political record and policy. Of course, he has been "switched on" and "switched off" many times since his release by his North Vietnam/Soviet captors. His initial objective was to get into politics; so he had to dump his disabled first wife and find a stupid, young heiress to finance his political career. And the 2008 election is not his first attempt to destroy the US economy - - remember, he was one of Charles Keating's lackeys who sparked the S&L crisis.
Obama may turn out to be a false prophet, but McCain is definitely a true idiot. In that respect Obama may end up being the solution the country needs now. Contrast that with McCain -- a sure disaster.
I stumbled uon this page, tofind the dumbest, bunch of conservative voter I could imagine. What the matter is your racism not enough, Do you have to compound it with your ignorance too. I've heard nothing by veil racism, and hate mongering. And this from the God fearing. Yes you are stupid, illinformed, and of all things, liars, problem is you lie to yourselves. go ahead vote for whom you please but try to cover it with lis, Just say I'm a racist, and I'm voting this way. Don't say Obama plays the race card, you are lying, Don't say he is shallow when you no he's not, don't say he's an enlistist, which sound very stupid. And show that you unimform and dimmwitted, it's your country and you know where we've been and you want to continue in th same direction? Say you are a racist.
How sad that you had the wool pulled over your eyes by WcCain and crew. This woman clearly will lie and cheat her way into the office right along with WcCain.
She isn't a maverick, she loves earmarks, she didn't sell the plane on ebay for a profit, she hasn't been to Iraq, she had a layover in Ireland is all, she put a tanning bed in the governor's mansion (kinda elitist), she clearly learned all she knows about foreign policy last week, she left her tiny town of Wasilla in debt, she needed a City Manager to help her run the town (which they never needed before), she did support the bridge to nowhere and had no problem keeping the money allocated to it, she is under investigation for trooper-gate but won't cooperate with the investigation.
Too bad you've been suckered by a liar...
I agree with some posters that Sarah Palin is dangerous--not to the "left" but rather to this country. This woman believes God should help build a pipeline? That Iraq is a mission from God?? (In radical Islam, BTW, wars in the name of god are called Jihad)
How many more "missions from God" would she lead us into after 72-year old McCain dies in office (I'm not making light of his health, but lets face it, being POTUS isn't the best of jobs for a long life).
She scares me...not for what she'll do to the election, but what she would do to our country.
Wow! Some of the comments here are REALLY scaring me. Are people really that ignorant? or are they willing to throw the facts aside for racism or fear? I'm beginning to see how the right wing nazi's took power. It was because the average joe's were willing to go along with the silly, absurd lies that they were being told by their leaders. In the face of FACTS...real FACTS, not lies and half-truths how could any sane person vote for McCain-Palin?? What are these folks THINKING??? ...and what's with the Obama is a muslim stuff??? and what if he was?? what utter nonsense!! If these folks really believe in God, they sure don't get the 'Thou shalt not lie' commandment.
More lies
When a person has to inflate their self-worth with lies that person has no gravitas
we should be concerned that we are being feed a lot of bull
We are going to get a racist and idiot count, come this elections, If McCain wins, we are in the midst of the insane aslyum.
I'm not worried about Palin. She's cute, feisty, wears some killer shoes, and has a quick, native intelligence. PERIOD. Depth of intellect? 1 centimeter. Make that a millimeter. Things are getting so bad in this country, people are going to realize it's going to take a smart, thoughtful man to lead us out of the mess....not a flash in the pan. Go back home and take care of your kids, Sarah.
3 things Obama has done:
1)The Gift Ban Act-ethics reform bill
2) Lobbying and Ethics Reform Act
3) Bipartisan bill making every earmark, grant, loan and contract public knowledge.
See a pattern? Obama is a real reformer.
Good for you! Telling the truth is the only way to battle this cult of personality. This campaign has to be about issues and the comments just show how you hit a nerve. The McCain campaign and his supporters have turned dog whistle politics and class warfare part of their plan. Please continue to find the strength to debunk both sides!
Does this woman ever speak the truth? The accurate truth? For that matter does the entire McCain campaign know how to speak the truth to Americans? http://factcheck.org has proven time and time again that the McCain campaign is lying to the American people. Hmmm...I seem to remember another leader lying and telling the American people that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction, and therefore Iraq NEEDED to be invaded...How many lives have been lost over THAT lie. Ready for four more years of lies?
If this country elects McCain/Palin, it will get what it deserves. For years, we've been headed on a trajectory of greed, ignorance, and me-at-all-costs living. If they win, we'll stay on that course. As they say, "Be careful what you wish for America".
Palin is Failin'...FAST!!
a huge success? define success. do successful people use exaggeration and lies about themselves in order to appear successful?
The biggest difference between Obama winning and Lumpy McCrazy winning is that if Obama wins a billion people in the world will no longer hate us and wish to see us destroyed. Its a start.
The clumsy semantics games that McCain/Palin are using to support Sarah's lies are laughable. She only said she "put" the plane on ebay and she never denied that she sold at a loss to a campaingn donor!!! Are you freakin kidding me? What about the chef that was let go? What about transparency in government?!!!
And what about McCain? How is he going to fix the economy? With Phil Graham?!!! Unless he has some concrete proposals that can separate him from his voting record he will not be viewed as an agent of change.
Palin may have put an end to the Bridge to Nowhere but she never said no to the funds. On the other hand she did NOT say no to the $600 Million bridge to Wasilla so where exactly is she anti-pork barrel?
This is an embarassing post coming from the WSJ.
What editor approves this crap as reporting?
Debunked by whom? Oh, reporters who saw it.
Keep it up Big Media.
You have no idea.
McLame/Palincomparisonoftruthteller = Liar/Liar
The McCain/Palin Mendacity Machine is beginning to rattle and collapse, just like the stock market. Excellent!
Keep the faith, smart people. The Ghouls of Stupidity won't win this one for the lipsticked book-banner.
Even in the private sale of the plane, she was able to sell it "at a profit". Granted, she did not sell it for more than the previous governor purchased the plane for brand new, but she sold it at a profit vs. the depreciated "book value" of the plane as estimated by the state prior to the sale.
Just like any regular car that you purchase brand new, it looses value over time, it just turns out that she sold it for more than accountants thought it was worth (i.e. at a profit based on the projected book value based on sales of previous plans of the same age and condition).
So . . . whether or not she sold it "at a profit" depends on who you ask . . . the accountants and auditors for the State of Alaska will definitely tell you that the sale was profitable!
No one looks beyond his or her own narrow minded, decidedy definitive opinion. Are you reading to expand your vision, questioning, reasoning, and intelligence? Or, do you read to further fuel your internal fire and hatred for that which you have pit yourself against. I am a Christian, and I am a republican. However, I will use terms like righ-wing- christian-whackos and neo-con nutjobs, to describe the GOP presidential ticket, because the more I read, the more I watch, and the more I think, the more Sarah Palin scares the hell out of me. I already didn't think I could trust the majorly changed John McCain. With the ticket as is stands, I'm voting Obama.
Palin says she "sold the plane on ebay", but the FACT is that it was listed on ebay but it never sold there. They sold it with a private broker at a loss. While it sat for months on ebay they lost money, they should have gone straight to the broker.
She says she and her kids hated to lose that Chef she fired. The chef got a new title and still cooks their meals.
She was for the bridge (on camera) until Congress stopped it (not Sara) then she was against but she still kept the money.
She says she fought against earmarks, but its been proven that she hired an Abramoff associate to lobby/fight FOR earmarks.
Whey you say something that isn't true its a LIE and that makes you a LIAR.
She and McCain are both liars who have no business being in office.
I would have thought the religious would be the first to call Palin out on her lies. Is falsehood okay if its one of your own?
Who needs a teleprompter when you just repeat the same lines over and over again? "I sold it on eBay", "thanks but no thanks", "being a small town mayor is kindaahhh like being a community organizer"....rinse and repeat. A bit early in her career to release a Greatest Hits album...
Did the McCain speech-writing team take an untimely vacation? Someone get this lady some new material.
Barack Obama is a tax and spend candidate, bottomline. Don't bother telling me about his tax plan, he is a liar, so why would I believe what he will say to get elected. He also said "I love this country so much", meanwhile he spent the last 20 years, as a student/believer in Black Liberation Theology, anti-America,anti-white teachings based on Maxism.Heard all across America, the rantings of Rv.Wright, Obama mentor,spiritual advisor, and almost like family member. Obama is not to be trusted.
I am so fearful of what our country is becoming- we can't even understand opposing viewpoints and their importance in our democracy. The ability and right to dissent is paramount in this country and all i read on here are personal attacks. How are we supposed to heal a nation if it's citizens would rather deepen the wounds!! Shame on all of you.
the religious right has nothing to do with honesty or integrity. as long as you believe the bible is truth verbatim, you are "saved" and therefore can do no wrong.
That was as pathetic a comment as when ABC did a piece about Palin pronouncing nuclear. I have produced TV docs for PBS, Showtime, Bravo, Fam. Ch. NBC (synd.) etc. and I mispronounce nuclear.
Didnt Palin say that the war was GOD's war - Sounds like JIHAD! to me.
Thanks ZEKE for the TRUTH!
WHen is palin going to say something other than the same sound bites she says over and over and over and over again.
What I find even more embarrassing for the conservatives is that even if it were true that Palin improvised the speech or sold the plane on eBay for a profit, that is ALL they have. She has not one scintilla of experience to be VP. She has to talk about living next to Russia as foreign policy experience. In all seriousness, how can anyone vote for McCain with her on the ticket? She's an utter farce to a degree of mangnitude we've never witnessed before in politics, G.W. included.
So, by her account, she can can talk without a teleprompter!!! OOOOHHHH... Qualifies her to be VP... LOW standard here... Point is.... AGAIN, lies, lies, lies... She spoke to "Ohio" because she was in Ohio... It will be another state when she's somewhere else... Like McCain changing his story about which football team's players he recited in prison... http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/in-pennsylvania.html
Thank you, notbearfalsewitness, for your post.
So many Palin trolls, so many lies.
The only senator to miss more votes than McCain is the Democrat who's been out with a brain tumor for the last 2 years.
McCain graduated in the bottom five of his class at Anapolis.
Sarah Palin doesn't even have a MASTERS degree. Even George Bush had an MBA.
I have a Communications Degree myself, and it's true, it's not the hardest degree to get. It mainly requires people skills. It qualifies you to be a public relations person or press secretary, not VICE PRESIDENT.
Republicans are not interested in facts. They prefer lies. It's easier to bask in their ingnorance and naivete.
When Obama is speaking (no teleprompter)one on one, he takes mental pauses, with a - uh,uh, few seconds pause, as he reassemble his words(thoughts) and he then continues, then repeats this action over and over. This can come from a long term hard drug abuse,which results in pauses,disconnects,and reassembles of words when one is speaking. It is like a small electrical short to the brain.Obama is to well educated to blame it on a lack of skill.
mc cain better watch his back. this is a very ambitious woman who is going to use him as her personal stepping stone for the presidency. her self-confidence is not that--it is pure egotism. woe to the republicans.
Has a former Alaskan I know that sarah palin started out to build the bridge to nowhere I will keep bringing this up everytime I see the lying mccain/palin ad. Espically claiming to say palin stopped the bridge to nowhere. I'm fed up with overspending politicians increasing taxpayer debt. The government should not be baling out company's due to their own unwillingness to enforce oversight. Overpaid management should be tarred and feathered instead of skipping out with overpaid salaries, bonuses and a get out of jail card due to campaign donations to politicians and judges. They need to be tried by a working class person not some supreme court elitists who will find a way to get their buddys out of jail. If you play the stock market you take risks the same with a loan.
No, McCain needs to watch his face because SP is a well known serial fa ce si tter.
Lynne G and bagster, you are racist, uninformed posters. Period. Sarah Palin HAS lied ('fired' chef was reassigned, probably "troopergate," jet sold privately, not on e-Bay, earmark opposition, Bridge to Nowhere opposition being her, and not Congress' initiation, DID want ability to ban books, opposition to prospect for which attempt was made to fire librarian, etc.); McCain has lied ("lipstick on pig" reference to Palin by Obama, 'tax everyone' Obama plan, anti-pedophile "don't touch" Obama bill marketed as kindergarten sex (intercourse) ed, etc.), and HE introduced covert racism (coded) into this campaign, and DID have an internet ad with Obama's face on a bill, to which Obama was responding with the 'don't look like the other guys on the bills' comment. Obama DIDN'T play the 'race'card.
(CNN) — It appears Barack Obama's teleprompter is hitting the campaign trail.
McCain would rather lose the e rection than undo Sarah's lies.
McCain would rather lose the e rection than undo Sarah's lies.
I withdraw all comments that may have offended anyone for any reason. Sarah.
For all Sarah Palin supporters...
Yes, the moon is made of cheese. No, the earth is not round, it's flat. And I've got a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
You people are delusional, and quite frankly it's no longer funy...it's very sad. I expect such attitudes from kids who so desperately want to believe in the "tooth fairy", but not from adults. You're a pathetic lot, and you have my sympathy.
"So many Palin trolls, so many lies."
And that, my friends, is the truth.
Oh, and as for the teleprompter being out. C'mon folks, what do you think she'd been doing for the week before the convention when she was sequestered away behind the scenes, in her hotel room? PRACTICING THE SPEECH. She probably could've recited it backwards. And maybe we'd all be more impressed if she actually wrote the damn thing. Eloquent it ain't. Nasty it was.
For Melissa and John S. McCain III. If you find this blog scary, it is only because you make us quiver. Raving lunatics in the White House. Worse than Nixon or W or any other president you want to damn. It is not Bush III 2 (Bush squared).
you go ELIZABETH.... The notion that this ill equipped shallow harpy is one heartbeat away from being America's president makes me sick. The fact that she's a 1ousy animal killing parent makes it even worse.
this country is already at it's knees.
what we need now is more of the same!
McCAIN/PALIN - vote for war and religious extremism in '08!
Barack OBAMA, a RADICAL LIBERAL ELITIST, with a paper thin resume, community organizer,campaign organizer (Obama newest claim to experience)176 day Senator.This empty suit is a joke, "Save the Planet", "Lead the World","Change America in a Socialist Nation", the Obama change.
All I can say is there's sure a lot of out (or soon to be out) of work WSJ reader out there :)
Is there ANYTHING this woman will not lie about??? Come on, she has a record of doing some good things; why does she have to day after day after day lie? I do not get it, and the thing is, if she can not be trusted to tell the truth now, how could we ever trust her as VP or pres?
I hope they continue to attack Palin, and here's why:
1. Every attack on McCain for picking Palin because she's a woman, reminds women Obama didn't pick Hillary, and her 18 million votes.
2. Every attack on Palin's experience reminds everyone that Obama has less.
3. Every attack on Palin, diminishes Obama. The number 1, shouldn't have to attack the number 2.
4. Every attack on Palin is one less attack on McCain.
5. Every attack on Palin's small town experience pushes more of the "bubba vote" to the McCain camp.
There's no advantage for Obama to attack Palin. Obama just can't stand the fact that someone else is "popular." And what Obama doesn't realize is that McCain's bounce isn't all Palin, it's that people are starting to realize what Obama truly is, a big government co
I am amazed that anyone would think it is a good idea to "demonize" Sarah Palin. Hey female liberals, wake up, the rest of American women don't think she's a joke. And as for Obama, can we please look into his life a little more closely? What about Rezko, Ayers, et. al? Where is this information?
Barack Obama, "the doomday" candidate, if you lissen to Obama, nothing right in America, but don't worry "Big Brother" know best. Obama, promises if elected,"Big Government" control in the American people everyday life throught their mandatory programs, or penalties for those American that do not conform.There is nothing new in socialism, it did'nt work in the past,it not going to work now in America. The Obama "Change" is nothing more then old socialism in its failed glory, presented by Obama the new guy on the block.
It's obvious from her ABC interview that she couldn't have put together a coherent sentence without the teleprompter. Transcript of her next interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson: "Charlie, I will not blink, because Charlie, John McCain believes in me, Charlie, believes in me as a maverick, Charlie, and I will not, Charlie, stand for questions about my taxes, Charlie, because those are sexist, Charlie [BLINK, BLINK]."
the wall street journal is supposed to be read by intelligent people. Racism is not intelligence, it comes from stupidity. you guys need to grow up, sarah PALIN is not fit to run this country, and I love this country to much to let people become fooled by her LIES. she can barely talk without spitting out a lie. A characteristic that we all want our children to have, she is no role model for her own children let alone the USA.
All these cheap shots at Sara Palin, by the loons, just endears her more to the American people, that relate to her.All those voters, between So.Chicago and San Francisco, whose culture and values mean alot to them, are backing McCain-Palin ticket
Perhaps Palin is right if she says she's "doing God's work". God surely doesn't like the way this country has been headed for a long time...Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq, racism, greed and corruption. A veritable Sodom and Gomorrah. Perhaps by using McCain/Palin and their flock of useful idiots, this country will be destroyed from within and without. And God can finally rest easy that his experiment in Democracy can be tried in another more worthy country.
Sarah Palin is the anti-christ of feminism and anyone who touts her as being a feminist or deserving of feminist support has NO CLUE what the term means or of the values held therein.
So shut the heck up and leave the thinking to the grown ups.
OH, yeah, Lynne G, your are an embarrassment to women and America!!! racism at its finest.
A friend, a long time TV exec on assignment at the Republican Convention was at a position off to the rear of the stage with a clear view of the teleprompter which he could read from his seat. He has reported unflinchingly that following along on the prompter during Palin's speech he saw absolutely no gliches with or on the teleprompter.
hi5 to Donna.
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Obama, Pelossi, Reed, Dean, all got to go. They are "Bad" for America.
It seems many of the posts from supporters of the Republican ticket lack the courage to actually research the claims being made against Palin..Are they afraid they will discover that the vast majority of reporting on her lack of honesty is accurate? God help us...
I am so happy Obama has Joe Biden on his side and I will be proud to vote for them. Sarah Palin doesn't know anything about the real world except how to lie to cover up things she's done (or hasn't done) to try to get what she wants. McCain should be ashamed of himself.
There was a show on ABC within the last 2 years called "Commander in Chief", starring Gina Davis as an Independent Vice President on a Republican ticket. It also co-starred Donald Sutherland as Speaker of the House. Anyhow, the Republican President dies putting Davis in the Presidency, Sutherland wants the position, so thinking to show Davis' inability to lead as President, he rigs the teleprompter to shut-off during her acceptance speech in front of Congress and the whole United States. Anyhow, the prompter shuts down in mid stride, Davis pauses, then becomes and extemporaneous genius, saving the day and looking quite Presidential.
Funny how, in this instance, life (lies) is/are imitating art (acting) rather than the other way around.
With honor comes honesty. Mccain has lost his.
Anyone who doesn't support Palin or her ideals/BS is either -anti-feminist -jealous -mean -stupid -extreme liberal or downright unAmerican. Don't you know that kind of attitude itself unAmerican? "How Dare You Speak Out Against Our Queen??? TO HELL WITH YOU!"
Oh, but Sarah Palin is a joke and if you think Jeramiah Wright was bad check out her Pastor Kalnins on the Huffington report.
With Honor comes Honesty. Constantly, skirting the facts and repeating things known to be untrue to yourself, but believable to many in the American Public, whom may not have access to anything but brief spots of news from the TV, is extremely cynical and dishonest. The word LIAR comes to mind.
With Honor comes Honesty. McCain has lost both his Honor and Honesty. Especially as he continues to remain complicit with the direction his campaign has turned.
Hey non-thinking, dumb ass republicans, how about you move to Alaska with Palin. You can all build bridges together, open an ebay store and put lip-stick on each other. Time to think for yourself but you are so brainwashed by the Republicans.
The very first post where the person said that she is a huge success, not sure what she is successful in doing. Maybe it is that she is successful at doing her hair the same way everyday and putting on her lipstick.
Just because she couldn't see her teleprompters top two lines doesn't mean a damn thing. You think she didn't have that speech memorized?? She's an actress for crying out loud.
To Comment by John - September 16, 2008 at 5:19 pm who wrote about the republicans' not researching to find the truth. It is becasue they are so brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Not quite, not entirely true." ??
There is a perfectly good English word. Why do so many avoid it at all costs? That word is "lie."
To all McCain?Palin supporters. Didn't you give our country enough pain with Dubya!
I'll tell you what. McCain is my senator, literally, and he is but a shadow of the man that ran in 2000.
As for Palin, without the lies she's still a twenty month governor of the least populated state in the country, two thousand miles away from the lower 48. What the hell does she know about the rest of us?
Check your facts and stop making a fool of yourself. Obama is a christian. Even if he were muslim, that people think it to be a bad thing shows how far we've sunk as a nation. I'm truly sad for you and anyone who shares your opinions.
A Voter,
Turn this into a socialist nation? It is. What do you call a political system that bails out an economic system? Socialism. Oh and Obama's education alone qualifies him for the job. Or is it better to have a shell shocked ex-soldier--who won't provide my family members (who are fighting for America, unlike you) in Iraq with better equipment--in charge of our nation?
I saw a number of semi-literate posts defending Palin's supposed refusal of the Bridge to Nowhere ("Thanks, but no thanks"), but I didn't notice anyone fully debunking it; my apologies if this is redundant.
(1) She initially supported it, indeed lobbied for it, indeed lobbied for it not just as a project to pursue but quite openly as a pointless piece of infrastructure whose only purpose was to bring federal funds to Alaska (she wore a Nowhere T-shirt while making appearances in favor of the bridge) and ultimately went public against it only after Congress had already voted it down.
(2) Although she ultimately repudiated the project, she accepted the funding anyway, under a modified earmark.
I know this comment will draw criticism, but I feel Republicans on this forum do not come across as educated. They make petty, nasty comments in order to hide from the reality that their party is the reason our country is in crisis. Please educate yourselves for the good of the country!No wonder the rest of the world thinks we are a bunch of idiots. As usual, the most vocal are the least educated.And before you attack me for being a Democrat, let me tell you that I am an Independent who voted for Reagan. A true Republican. The Republican party has been high-jacked by Bible beating, uneducated nuts. What a shame.
Obama, the ELITIST, is heading to Beverly Hills,CA, to collect some big time mulla from Hollyward star airheads, who are as shallow and disconected with the America people as their superstar Barack Obama.You liberals better get use to the saying President John McCain,now say it again, see that was'nt so bad. Wise up, Obama lost his moejoe, and he is going down.
As someone who made a living doing media training for decades, reading from a teleprompter is not easy...unless you were a telecommunications major, as Palin was. So far, we are nearly three weeks into this campaign and she has only spoken once without the use of a teleprompter reading words that we written for her. This does not inspire confidence. The fact that Biden was ready to go face CBS, NBC, and ABC, as well as CNN right out of the chute speaks volumes about the confidence that McCain and Obama have about their choices and their ability to take over if something happens to them. We still have no idea who Palin is and some of the media and the public are acting like she's a contestant on American Idol instead of running for VP.
i also think a lot of the pro-palin comments on here are probly a small group of people reposting with different names.
its hard to believe anyone with a college degree would knowingly vote for someone who is so clearly dim.
I was once proud to be a Republican, but the majority of the party no longer seems capable of independent thought. Everyone is expected to fall into lock step behind any candidate offered, regardless of how unqualified that candidate might be. We take pride in the united front we claim to enjoy, when we are lemmings, incapable of questioning talking points handed to us by Fox News. We make fun of Democrats for being such a fractured part when they question their leaders on points. It's truly a sad time to be an American.
I would rather pray for our troops than send them into a country for revenge for your daddy. They should be in Afghanistan tracking down Bin Laden, which was the right thing to do after 9/11. Do you watch the news? Where have you benn living the last eight years? W has lied about just about everything since he's been in office!
can someone on here please explain how Obama is an elitist?
since when has getting an education been such an offense?
I am surprised that one reporter said he didn't think the teleprompter is broken. then this reporter becomes the source of truth. yet the person who indeed used the teleprompter, and experienced difficulties (no matter how small they were) is even forbidden to talk about that. I believe here Palin is telling the truth not the reporter who is in tank with Obama.
Amen Rich L. And McCain sitting with Nine Houses.
Anyway it's common knowledge that Republican leadership is the true elitists. In fact starting with Bush's grandfather, Senator Prescott Bush, the Bushes have felt entitled.
Just for the record - McCain knows HOW to use a computer and he CAN send email. However, his POW injuries make it uncomfortable to type as easily as others can so he prefers to utilize other means of communication.
Has Palin ever made a public appearance without lying? From Day One of her VP candidacy when she falsely said, "I told them 'Thanks, but no thanks' until now, she has told at least one whopper (usually more than one) at every public appearance I've seen, and I've followed her pretty closely.
I'll have to start a Lie-O-Meter during her lovefest with Sean Hannity because they're sure to be coming fast and furious and it's a safe bet Hannity will not confront her on a single one.
So . . . whether or not she sold it "at a profit" depends on who you ask . . . the accountants and auditors for the State of Alaska will definitely tell you that the sale was profitable!
Comment by Bob - September 16, 2008 at 1:40 pm
That statement begs the question "And you have spoken to those people?" The only thing I've seen was the fact that the plane, after all the money was wasted on eBay, was sold for $600K less than it was appraised for. In other words, how much it was worth. And less than what it originally cost i.e. sold at a LOSS. Not a profit as the M-P campaign has LIED about.
Are you just chugging the Kool-Aid or are you now doing I.V.?
Gov Palin would not know the truth if it had antlers and she shot it.
If Palin said thanks but no thanks to the bridge to no where, what happened to the funds. Why weren't they returned? Whether or not she was for or against the bridge to no where, she was for the pork barrel funds.
Woww... because she's able to ad-lib, that's why we all should stop questioning her knowledge/qualification to be the next in line to the oldest white senile guy ever to run for POTUS? How does that ever make sense?
If she has any knowledge about how to get out of this mess, like give a speech written by herself (and not by a Bush aide), I might consider listening to what she has to see. All I see in this woman is:
1. she can read a teleprompter.
2. if teleprompter does not function, she can also ad-lib.
3. she can field-dress a moose.
4. she likes to kill wolves, so can she can hunt more moose.
5. she LIED over and over again about her RECORDS about the bridge to nowhere, about 100 million-dollar worth of earmarks she requested for her state of Alaska to study crab-mating, etc.
LynneG, try getting your information from some source other than FOX or Rush. Nice VP Pick has it right all the way. And McCain' solution for everything is CHANGE. Wonder where he got that clever idea - he copied it. T typical repugnican source of ideas. I hear McCain rile against what is going on on Wall Street, but does he offer solutions other than "I will change it". Big effin' deal. Obama actually has specific plans, itterated more than four months ago. You repugnicans make me SICK.
I'm a 58 yr old woman, business owner, originally from a small town, and lifelong Republican...and soon will sever my Republican tie...thanks to Bush/Cheney/McCain and Palin. They've done me in. I'm absolutely opposed to the election of John McCain. He who within the last year stood and said ...he doesn't know that much about (our) economy...remember? How the same hill can he reform it?? And, his choice of Sarah Palin sealed the coffin for me. To say she has more "experience" than Senator Obama insults me. I'm voting for Senator Obama and Joe Biden ....and thank you Bill O'Reilly for interviewing Obama... you were right Bill... Obama is no whimp. And shame on anybody who has an issue with race OR gender...get over it.
LynneG, you're right common sense did die years ago and Bush was elected then re-elected.. the country and economy is already on its knees and all you can say is women are jealous of Palin?! Seriously, this isn't high school and the stakes are too high for such immaturity and if anything that is sexist and offensive to imply that women cannot think for themselves or have valid concerns about this VP pick. Grow up!
It is the number of times she lies that is stunning. john mccain should reconsider this pick before it is too late. notice how divisive the campaign is now? He should jus call her what she is...a small minded liar with not ethical boundaries. we all know people like her. little lies that alone can be overlooked but after awhile you just can't bear it.
Hey Kelly, for the record, he's a avid blackberry user.. you know where the keys are 50 times smaller than a keyboard.. in fact, he helped create it didn't you hear LMAO!
Oh and P.S. did you read about the 'other' $600 Mil bridge to Palin's town of Wasilla? Can you say pork lover?!
This is from Matt Drudge on his conservative site: "According to sources close to the McCain campaign, the teleprompter continued scrolling during applause breaks.
Governor Palin continued, from memory [and relying on her printed text, clearly looking down occasionally at the printed page], to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech. BTW, I've gotten one more clarification from the McCain campaign: by the end of the speech the problem had been resolved. But you can clearly see during the middle Palin looked at her text often."
According to the campaign itself...she wasn't "winging it" for large swaths of her speech.
I respected McCain until he chose a VP that would appeal to Y-chromosomed Young Republicans and FOX-viewing hockey moms. The other day, my husband slapped on the Obama '08 bumper sticker onto our minivan. He's an Obamacan (voted for Ron Paul in the primaries). I asked him when was the last time he sported political paraphenalia on his person (the car being an extension, of course). He said, disgustedly, not since he was sporting a "Nixon Now!" button. It's no coincidence that (whom we consider Republican standard-bearers) are crossing the party lines to vote for Obama: Susan Eisenhower, Tricia Nixon, Douglas Kmiec, JIM LEACH. My Republican friends and family are also on the Obama bandwagon. When asked why, they cite: they did better under the Dems (see the US Census Bureau stats).
She is so kiddish ... reminds me of a 3 year old ... look daddy what I can do?
Palin is the media's darling all right, but real American's realize she's not one of us.
We're honest, hard-working people who would never tell outright lies just to get ahead like she has.
This election is about character, and it's sad the way that John McCain has abandoned the principles that used to make him respectable. he is truly a man without honor now.
Palin Palin, END the LIES and STUPIDITY, you're a poor representative of Women s beliefs,rights and aspirations. When will you stop telling bedtime stories not even kids will believe and talk about your presidential policies that you intend to implement next February?
Oh I forgot you are a dunce and think the rest of the country is just as stupid as you and that old baffled looking fool McSame are. ENOUGH!
Wow! LynneG, you're up to Ann Coulter's standard of facism! I'm impressed!!
Palin lied about not supporting the bridge to nowhere, Palin lied about not asking for earmarks, Palin lied about the investigation into Troopergate. See a pattern?
All I can say is that Ms. Palin took Barry off his game. If McCain was stupid for this pick...he was stupid like a fox. Dems are playing right into the Reps playbook. In short, good media or bad media about Sarah is media none-the-less and Barry is left to twist in the wind trying to get his message out. Dems should hit their knees and hope for an "Eagleton" (for you younger folks go Google it)and beg for Hillary. By the way, when does Bill start making good on his pledge to campaign for Obama? When the Reps win in November, kiss the Dem party goodbye. The Clintonians will drive a wedge in it wider than the Grand Canyon. Bill and Hillary giving up the leadership of the Dem party to Barry? Pass along whatever you are smoking!
I completely understand why some are willing to ignore all of the above about Sarah Palin. And I get it when some are willing to ignore all of the lies coming from McCain and his campaign.
I've been loyal to the party and its ideals for more than thirty years. I've looked the other way when I shouldn't have, and defended the indefensible. However, I cannot in good faith support this ticket. I just can't. Count me out on this one.
Interesting exchange. A quick tally of yea vs nay comments above show those against Palin have a 9 to 1 lead. Also true is the venom in which it is expressed. Such eloquence, very impressive indeed, and yet so short on substance. Once again, proving for all to see, the incredible lack of intellectual capital within the LIB ranks. You poor things, unable to clearly articulate more than bile. Better you should just WHA WHA WHA instead of trying to actually come out with something convincing solely on the merit of it's content. Not likely. Yes it's true and sadly so, that liberalism is a mental disease the recovery from which is seldom experienced. A slow path to assisted living, drool wiping and diaper changes. Canada beckons you...
Let's pretend for a moment that an undecided voter stands before you and seeks your guidance. Can any one of you swing them to OBAMA without disparaging McCain. Now the challenge here is that unlike a typical LIB lemming, this voter just won't go along to come along. They will need an intelligent argument for Obama. They will need to be convinced it's the right vote. Right for them and right for the country. So have at it, convince away, take as much time as you need but be aware... the election is fast approaching.
Okay, as a Republican I'll get back to educated facts:
I'm a small, successful businessman that is one of the taxpayers in Obama's sights (earning more than $250,000 per year). With his tax increases on FICA tax, my marginal tax rate will be about 52%.
Question: What is my "fair share"?
Why do I want to vote for a candidate that supports the removal of an employer's right to challenge unionization of their business (www.heritage.org)under the so called Employees Free Choice Act which prohibits a "private" vote by employees (which is currently available under the law).
Question: What about my rights as an employer to ask employees if their intention to unionize is true and accurate? How do I know they have not been pressured? I'll never know with EFCA.
I await in anticipation of a break through. But in the meanwhile the country slowly transitions from the "Golden Idol Boy" OBAMA (head bowed, eyes lowered, praise be Obama) to the McCain/Palin ticket. Victory is being snatched from your grasp. All that is required is a convincing argument to reverse the tide, and WHA WHA WHA doesn't count... sorry.
It is a shame that most Americans buy into the government is the source of and answer to all problems. Everyone votes for anyone that tells them what they want to hear so you get the liberals giving away the farm and integrity to maintain power and the republicans abandoning their principles to get elected. MOst of the problems we have are everyone wanting something for nothing and we have finally reached collapse of house of cards. We need real people that tell it like it is. We need less idiots voting for government laundering money as a solution to anything. Whats the best way to get calue from a dollar? Give the government $10! At least MCCain has never taken and earmark and wants to hold politicians accountable for what they spend.
Buckeyzz02. What has overcome you? Using intelligent arguments and rational to make your point. Have you forgotten who your talking too. The living, but mentally impaired, dead. Yes, liberalism is a mental disease an no amount of shock therapy can correct it. Better to make your case to the door to your bedroom. It can at least swing in either direction.
Why should I vote for someone whose mentor, Saul Alinsky, dedicates his book on social change "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer?
Why should I vote for a man based upon the company he keeps? Because it is called character. If I served on a Board with a known former bomber and SDS member, I'd resign in protest.
I could keep on, but those should suffice for the moment.
Sorry, I forgot where I was. Just don't start me on the femlib thing about raising children and being in politics. I'd hate to have the femlibs impale themselves on their spears about a women in power having children.
But while I'm on a roll what's wrong with her husband pitching in while his wife sacrifices to do some good for the country? What lessons do we want to leave for our children? Me-man, me hunt with club, you woman, make dinner!
As a parent with three girls I want each of them to be able to take care of themselves when I'm taking the dirt nap. As for my son, I want him to understand that it's okay if your wife earns more than you.
By the way, note the word "earns"...Note to Dems: The U.S. Mint makes money, the rest of us "earn" money.
there is no such word as "particent". I think, perhaps, you mean "partisan."
a democrat for an educated democracy
Hey, thanks for the help but use your own handle... One might confuse you as a LIB with a split personality disorder...
Clarity For All To See - that last one was my post.
Republicans need to stop whining. Ever since Palin came on the scene, right-wingers have been crying about how unfair it is to scrutinize your anointed candidate. This victim mentality shows how weak, desperate and morally bankrupt the right-wing party has become.
No problem... . it appears we have silenced the crazed. At least for a moment. Perhaps they are trying to make a rational argument, one devoid of invective and slander. Oh my god... we could be waiting all night.
Bagster---you live in bizarro world. Everything you say is the opposite of reality. And yes, "right wing Christian wacko" is the perfect term for the intolerant, judgmental, reactionary group they are. Exactly the same as any other religion with it's fundamentalist's...can we say Taliban? I don't want ANY fundamentalist religious person as my VP or my President!!! Example: Mike Huckabee has said he wants to run the country by making the constitution more Biblical and running the country on the basis of the Bible. That's the ULTIMATE anti-American!!
oooo ahhhh wow. Ohio hits a home run. Imagine all the intellectual capital it took to muster that one. Probably gave yourself a headache coming up with that bit of verbal diarrhea . Take a moment, have someone wipe the drool from your idiot face and try to come back with an encore.
I respectfully beg to differ. But can you clarify your post? We know more about Palin in two weeks than most know about Obama in two years. No whining here. I'm trying to post facts.
For example, how can a tax hike on folks like myself help the economy? How about a tax cut at the corporate level so I can hire more people? With Obama I'll be paying 52% marginal tax rate.
Clarity for All to See: Sorry I try to take the high road with the weaker party.
Anti-Bagster: Suggest you read up on American History. For starters:
John Adams
Alexander Hamilton
Team of Rivals
Federalist Papers
Anti-Federalist Papers
I believe you will find that the founding fathers based a great deal on Christian principles.
No Cliff Notes, please.
Anti-Bagster: Follow-up point: Let's take religion out of the discussion for the moment, right wing, left wing, just the important issues.
Do you want bigger government or smaller?
Do you want a hand-out or a hand-up?
Do you want someone telling you that you are not smart enough to improve yourself?
Do you want someone telling you that they know how to spend your earned income better than you?
Do you want someone forcing you to join a union (again see Employee Free Choice Act) assuming you are not already a union person?
Do some research on these issues. Think Critically, React Logically.
It's getting hard to keep up with her lies. Her claim to be over 20% of the US's energy is really closer to 4%.
I feel so sorry for these people that can't see what has happened the last 8 years. It's the same people, that were posting a few years back, for another 4 years of W. The country is in the worse mess that it's ever beem in history, yet they want another 4 years of McCain/Bush.
I feel sorry for all of you.
Wow, so many misinformed comments. John McCain was best buds with John Keating of the S&L failures. They were so close that McCain came back and worked on a new ethics law to make himself look less insensitive....Talk about family values, he had an affair with his current wife before leaving his first wife and is known to play around on Cindy....Gov. Palin said she told Congress "No thanks to that Bridge to Nowhere", not true, congress rescinded the funds...Vote for who you want but some of you people need to stop trying to justify the lies...By the way, it's the unlearned among you who believe you have been given more info on Palin than Obama. They have both been covered fairly extensively, some of you are just irrationally selective about what you choose to believe.
I don't refute the "Christian principles" were a part of forming this country. I never stated they weren't and you completely missed my point. A big part of establishing this country is freedom to worship as you wish. I completely agree with that also. Colonists came here because they didn't want to be forced to follow the Church of England. But Fundamentalist Christians do NOT believe that. They believe we should all believe & live as they do, as their constant need to want to witness to everyone (don't come knocking on MY door). THAT is not "Christian" just as the Taliban is NOT "Islam". I think bagster is most likely a Rush-head, been spewing the same crap & propaganda for years, making this a divided country. People...he does it to MAKE MONEY, to ENTERTAIN!! Research everything!!
Sorry Buckeyzz02 but your best intentions are misguided. You assume and mistakenly so, that rational argument and discourse infused with facts, will win the day. Truth be told conservatives have a hard time expressing the hatred and contempt for those that disagree with them. A reality that comes far too easily to Lib's in general. I prefer to just silence them and their constant whining. As is proven here again this evening, when asked to make their case without all the emotion, without all the WHA WHA WHA and hating of those that differ in their point of view, they shrink into the night like the diseased living dead they are. Probably all on a street corner seeking handouts. Besides... I am having far too much fun to stop. I may take this up full time.
Dennis!!! A voice of reason!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
For Sarah Palin, there is no lie too small and no lie too large. But a lie is a lie, and they all have to be reported and counted.
Clarity, it's so easy to sit there and type out attacks on others. Like all the ads by McCain that are being shown on the tube. Those with small minds slander, what they can't win with the truth. You and your kind are a joke!
Buckeye, Have to disagree with you there the founding fathers worked overtime to keep the religion out of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
Whats more I think you are purposely exaggerating your tax liability by ignoring deductions and the fact that fica has a limit.
It sounds like children out there. When people are super stressed they have a tendency to fight.
I choose the Unity not the Disunity candidate. Obama/Biden. We are all God's children, start acting like it. We are our neighbor's keeper. Think about those less fortunate than yourselves. Look around, there are hurricane victims, thousands of people losing their homes and record 6.2% unemployment.
STOP THE AFFLUENZA and volunteer at a local soup kitchen or go down and volunteer for Habitat for Humanity for a change.
There would never be all this slander against Sarah Palin if the left didn't consider her a real threat. She in only running for VP and seems alot more capable of being president than Obama. People can see her as real, and not superficial like the Clinton's, and all the other artificial lying lawyers,and power hungry politians in our Government. I venture to say that within a short time, with all the knowledgeable people surrounding her, she will be above average in running either office. I am an independent voter,but I think we really need some level-headed changes in our country.
The main reason our country is in the shape it's in is because we have a Gov. of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the lawyers, thus leading to corruption. It's all about power and money. People want realchange
Uh, I think we have quickly forgotten that this was her first national speech with all the chips on the table. She needed a perfect 10.0 to win. A minor glitch was major to her or to anyone who might have been in her situation.
This entire thread is sad and only serves as a big diversion from some really serious issues. Facts and information on all of the candidates are out there for the taking. Sift through the fluff and bear down on the real issues. We have serious short and lng terms issues that need to be addressed and we all need to make a responsible choice when we cast our votes in November. Gather information, make an informed choice and vote your conscience. Think of yourself, your children and your neighbors. think about how we got here and where we need to go. Do not get caught up on the nonsense and make it a personal priority to give this election the consideration and seriousness it deserves. Enough...
What slander? Palin is clearly deficient. It's a simple as that.
By the way, Palin is not only a Fundamentalist, she Pentacostal and frankly I deon't want a Vice President that speaks in tongues.
You can never argue with a liberal. They have 8 years of venom built up from losing the last two elections, and watching their "most ethical Congress" get a 9% approval rating.
The Illinois Legislature long ago crossed the bridge from part-time to full-time, says Charlie Wheeler, director of public-affairs reporting at the University of Illinois at Springfield.
I really want this wonderful land called America to come back as a powerful leader in the world,and to underdstand we can live and work togoether for us and future generations.
Stop the craziness of this election and look at the issues and needs of America.
People vote your heart and for the future of our land.
8 years of the Bush administration has brought us to our knees. We need real change not the same. Racism is alive and showing it's ugly head. Think and vote!!!!!
A rational liberal argument: Obama claims he will cut out tax-loophole and lobbyist corruption. He claims he will offer universal health care to hard working Americans who are being suffering at the hands of insurance and pharmaceutical companies. McCain has only made cutting out corruption a political priority recently, and he has no intentions to help the American people receive affordable healthcare--a small thing to ask considering how much our government has failed to live up to its sovereign obligations. Instead he offers a band aid tax break that will do nothing.
Obama has explicitly talked about: The need to increase minimum wage, providing tax breaks for companies that hire American workers, and federal funding for green technologies that could put us light years ahead of our biggest economic competitor (e.g. China).
McCain meanwhile, is receiving money from questionable corporate sources--tainting is anti corruption agenda, has refused to support more funding for the troops, and continues to push the boundary of sleaze by attacking Obama falsely with his commercials (even Carl Rove says so).
I'm not even a liberal, but I can't vote for McCain either on a moral and rational basis. I hope you can see that assuming your candidate is the right one is anything but a clarity for all to see.
First thought: if true, Palin has actually trumped Joe Biden's plagarism fiasco, though she's stealing close to home from speechwriters...
Second thought: it true, how pathetic! Reminds me of Nikolai Ceausescu and his bear hunting.
Now that I've spelled it out for you, go play in traffic.
Fact: Obama was sworn into office on the Koran.
Fact: Obama's only legislative achievement was to force kindergarten students to be exposed to sexual education.
Fact: Michelle Obama hates America.
This is a changed world, people, after 9/11 we have to protect ourselves. It really wouldn't be too much to lock the liberals up until after the election.
Who's got the good Cool Aid™? I'll have some, Sarah. Sorry. No sugar? Ick. Tastes ike moose butt, hockey mom.
The honesty of Cheney, the belief set of Bush, and the certainty of Rumsfeld--all in one person! She is truly amazing and she will get my vote for sure! She is way smarter than Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden combined! And her husband, Todd--wow--he sits in on all the meetings and we're getting both of them together! I'm not even sure we need John McCain. I say, "Palin/Palin '08"!
Who needs John McCain? I'd rather have Sarah at the top of the ticket. She has Cheney's integrity, Bush's beliefs, and the certainty of Rumsfeld--all in one person! Who could top that. Since Todd sits in on her meetings, he'd be a great VP, too. I usually never vote but since Obama hates America and Sarah and Todd love it (Todd loves it so much he tried to leave it when the Clinton's tried to steal it from us!) She will mow down the liberals and shoot them in the face if they think they can go hunting with her. Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!
Venom for All to See,
Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison is the congressman who swore in on the Koran. Barack Obama is a Christian, and he took the Oath of Office on a Bible.
The kindergarten thing was a campaign position, not legislation.
I'll bet you've never met Michelle Obama.
We've ALWAYS had to protect ourselves, and done pretty well at it. Take your cluture of fear and divisiveness and go hide in the basement with it, if that makes you feel better.
McCain could have nominated a piece of clay and you right-wingers would be telling us how experienced and honest the clay was. You have just watched 8 pathetic years of George W. Bush, who you voted for twice and you are still trying to pretend you have some understanding of the world. Now you sit around pushing for another Republican moron, while banks fail and the war in Iraq approaches 6 years. You are a sad, ignorant bunch. Arrogance and ignorance is a really bad mix, but there is enough of it from the right wing to take this country all the way down the toilet.
I've been a Republican since Regan, and voted enthusiastically for Bush in 2000, and again in 2004 (albeit no so enthusiastically). I have to tell you that I'm embarrassed by our ticket in 2008. John McCain is no Ronald Reagan, and Sarah Palin is either Dick Cheney or Dan Quayle with lipstick. I, for one, can't stand to see someone like McCain being transformed from a man of honor into a Rovian, say-anything-to-become-President, liar (even though Palin tops him in that department). I've had it. I'm voting Independent this time around.
If the seventy two year old McCain should die in office, Sarah Palin will step in and become our president! What's the big fuss? Bush has proven that even a moron can handle the job and Palin is one step above that..
If the McCain people can't allow Sarah to speak to the press unscripted, how can she be trusted with the White House?
John McCain equals McPAIN
Sarah Palin equals Sarah PAIN
Too bad right wingers may use these 2 hypocrits to inflict more pain on our beloved country.
to Clarity, Truth and Palin/Palin.
You are scary people!
Cheney is one of the most dishonest people we have had in government. He has no integrity. And Bush's beliefs have made a mess of this country!
OK, I have now read through this blog. There is a great amount of miscommunication and bad interpretations.
Years ago, I realized that it is not so much the party, but the platform, and person(s). It has been next to impossible to vote Republican for a long time. This war is insane. In this blog, I read the comment that we should vote for a smaller government. Well, look at the current fiscal mess and debt. Government is bigger than ever. Only now, it is being funded through loans from China! Wow, is that back-asswards.
Clarity for All to see repeatedly seems to be in a fog. How does Obama Hate America? He is a Christian! Also, Clarity's comment that conservatives don't espouse hate like liberals do, followed by misinformation about Obama reflects hate.
By the way, years ago, I met a young man campaigning for his father, He approached me and said that as I enter manhood, that a priviledge is to Hump any woman you want even if you are married. He told me he was married. Years later, we have had to endure his 8 years in the White House, a war in Iraq, and a Vice-President who shoots people on hunting trips. We are now entering a severe epidemic of depression era proportions, a federal deficit greater than ever, and an administration that talks about the virtues of ethics and honesty. Did this person have depth of experience (Oh, a trip down governor lane and baseball ownership might give some) I'll vote Obama / Biden for clarity of DIRECTION!
If the teleprompter story IS true, why is Palin bragging about it? The McCain/Palin campaign is so technologically incompetent that they can't get their teleprompters to work! And what was going on with those funny background pictures during McCain's speech? The Republican convention was like an amateur theater production put on in a nursing home by a group of Alzheimer's patients for their rich friends.
And another thing, you people trash Sarah Palin, but the FBI and the CIA would have a field day investigating Obama. But, of course, he is the media's darling, and he is a Democrat. The FBI and CIA only investigate Republicans. If this country elects Obama, get ready to live under Sharia law. You'll be crying for John and Sarah, and maybe even poor ole dumb George…..
Comment by LynneG - September 15, 2008 at 9:58
Listen Einstein, If you think the FBI and the CIA did not fully investigate Obama and Michelle two African-Americans, then you obviously have no clue.
The teleprompter failure, for both Giulani and Palin, was a problem. They should be congratulated for getting through it. But who was at the teleprompter controls, Brownie?
If the Republicans can't get their technology to work right for their own convention, what chance do we have for the voting machines to count right this November?
If all you Reagan wannabees, Clarity, bagster, Buckeyzz, et al., really want to boost your neo-con cred you need to start talking like Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy, Karl Rove, Carly Fiorina and the rest of your brethren who are starting to see that they have to acknowledge problems with McCain to be taken seriously.
All you folks complaining about the untruths from Palin...don't you know, truth doesn't matter! Where've you been for 8 years?
Bush and Cheney define truth as what they believe it to be, or should be. What works for Bush/Cheney should work for McCain/Palin!
Sorry I left LynneG out of the previous post.
"The FBI and CIA only investigate Republicans."
Is that true? Is it because only the Republicans need to be investigated?
Or is it not true, and you are only 9 years old, not having heard about the Clinton impeachment?
If you want to consider yourself a patriot, do some research on the CIA's forging of the letter to support the invasion of Iraq. Maybe they've been so busy with that stuff they haven't had the time to investigate Democrats.
i hope all you christian right wingers sleep good at night supporting the rich by oppressing everyone that is different then you. its funny how the people who cant stand anyone who doesnt share thier views wants to force thier own on everone else. you hypocrites show the blindness of faith and validate my own personal beliefs.
Palin's knowledge of anything substantive is about an inch deep. I want to like her, but she just seems like Dubya all over again. What a shame.
Guess my G-string slipped and is now choking me by the neck... no air is reachin ma brannnnnneeeeee.....
If Sarah Palin is that great on ad-libs, how come she is not going the rounds of TV interviews?
She's all sound and fury, signifying nothing, as the Bard would put it.
Sorry right-wingers, but Sarah Palin is NOT ready to be a "heart-beat" from being the leader of our country. Its ridiculous to think that being able to see "Russia" from your state, qualifies for foreign policy experience is an insult to the intelligence of all Americans. Given our choices of candidates, Obama, Biden is the logical choice.
McCain and his people couldn't find a vice presidential candidiate. So they have decided to make one up! Wait until we find out that half the kids only cardboard cutouts.
look at this and tell me how much the teleprompter "malfunctioned."
I didn't pick Hillary because I'm afraid of her....
So much ignorance and hate on both sides of this argument. I desperately hope we're not seeing a representative sample of American thought here.
If she was truely ad-libing, then she was quoting Westbrook Pegler by memory. That, my friends, is scary stuff!
RE Clarity for all to see, way to make that rational argument you were talking about. You really should check your facts. There is nothing wrong with teaching children about their bodies and letting them know what isn't appropriate to prevent abuse. And where do you get off assuming Michelle hates America? Way to result to a child.
If Obama can go on Bill O'Reilly's show, why wont Palin do interviews at all? None. Zero so far. What had she got to hide? If nothing, go on Bill Oreilly. After that Meet The Press, as ALL the other 3 candidates have. She doesnt DARE do interviews. It would uncover exactly how ignorant on national and foreign policy issues that she is. She may be a nice lady, but it is LAUGHABLE to claim that she is ready to be VP of the U.S. That's why they wont let her do interviews. If she can't handle Tom Brokaw, or Joe Biden (that debate's gonna be fun to watch!)how in the heck could she deal with foreign leaders from Russia, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, China, etc. If McCain wins we'll be the laughing stock of the world and will be in yet another war by 2010. "Perhaps" with Russia, if Sarah has her way.
Reporters debunked the story? Reporters? Who's debunking them? The news press are the biggest liars and spinners in this whole election! I say drop your newspaper subscriptions and put them all on the street.
Pretty obvious that we are clearly seeing some moveon.org and factcheck.org people trying to sway some WSJ readers! And just because a wbstie ends in ".org" does NOT mean it is unbiased. I think we know that McCain and Palin are not perfect just better than Obama and Biden! And just because we believe in less governement does not make us stupid or criminal! So please, when attacking the right please enough with the silly name calling.
For the past eight years the 'spinners' have explained what Bush 'really' meant! Now they're working for McCain/Palin.. "fool me once.."
face it folks...obama is not ahead in the polls because this country is still racist to the core...FACT! I'm tired of all the lies these past 8 years and I am voting for the most honest candidate...OBAMA/BIDEN
I spoke with a friend of mine the night of the convention speech who works the campaign. (well before the news media got ahold of the story) the teleprompter did have a problem. If you watch her again, you see the pauses when it starts to go off, where she is a little rattled then regains composure. as for the "reporters" who saw it, I don't have an answer - all I know is that it DID happen.
However, I don't think it's news, nor should it ever have been. NO ONE should be reporting this - it's distracting and ridiculous.
to Video at 8:15 - your clip is entertaining - I assume that her speech was only 1:22 long? Perhaps you should go listen again, I seem to remember a bit more TV time taken up from that night, don't you? ;-)
Right wing religious nuts can not save this country and the ball needs to swing the other way. To hell with Republicans and their lie, smear and fear platform.
when the liberal arm of the Dem party loses its grip on the direction of the party. Clinton had to move the Dems to the middle and accomplished much. Ever since, the Dems have been sliding towards populist, anti-religion, politically correct numbnuts like Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Pelosi, and now Obama & Biden.
Bring a moderate Dem and you will be amazed at what happens.
These two, mccain and palin, think they can just make stuff up and we'll swallow it. How dishonest.
After reading this blog, I'm more optimistic than ever. Thank God most of you get it and are Obama supporters. The rest of you uneducated, unresearched "believe anything the dishonest republicans tell you" are as guilty as Bush himself. How dare you defend the ongoing deception of the American people. We should all be standing together to take back our country, but instead many of you are promoting lies about Obama who is your only chance at a secure future. Quit trying to be right when you are so blatantly WRONG!!!!
The reason the teleprompter lie is an issue worth news coverage is that we have empirical evidence there was no malfunction and yet all the Republican candidate for V.P. of the United States can do is channel Groucho Marx: "Who are you going to believe? Me or your own two eyes."
This teleprompter thing is only an issue because the McCain/Palin campaign made it an issue by bragging how well she did even with a teleprompter. It was untrue. I really hope more is revealted about Palin's lies in time for the election. McCain ruined what would have been a viable ticket by choosing her.
The bigger the lie the more the GOP loves her...
a $200 billion dollar bridge + a $600 billion dollar bridge + $300+ billion in earmarks
a billion dollar LIE in her first national address= Its A NEW RECORD !!!
Palin has publicly urged the government not to list Cook Inlet beluga whales as endangered.
..............she wants to kill baby beluga,,,,,sweet............
Go home Archie Bunker...Lional won't burn the White House down
Sara Palin is a TOOL and nothing more, to be used mercilessly by the Neo-Cons to win the election and discard like yesterday's garbage. One can only pity the clueless woman.
Go fly a kite Duncan.
clevelandvoter3348. right, Dems NEVER lie.... LMAO :)
Since when was David Brooks a conservative.He is a admitted Democrat.Just like the rest of the NYT [journalists] also known as Bush Bashers. Now they are Palin Bashers.
More McLies from McCain and Palin they are worse than Bush! Look where Bush & Cheney have brought are country. Palin is a joke. Why isn't everyone incensed that Palin is contantly shielded from press and public questions? She keeps repeating the same things over and over and over in her speeches. She has no depth of knowledge or leadership what-so-ever and we are considering electing her to possibly lead our country.
Watching Palin is like watching Scary Movie 6 or 7. It's unbelievable what the Republicans will come with next: She is going to the UN to shake some foreign hands. It's surreal life imitating bad art. When will McCain stop lying? Notice he always wear his cap to hide his bald head, everybody knows he is old why try to hide it
Palin will be a heartbeat away from the presidency if elected... now that's scary!
Clarity for All to See & Buckeyzz02. enjoyed your posts, but you know that OBAMA IS THE ANSWER! Why do you fight the need to give more of your hard earned income to the government. it's for our own good. it's true because Obama tells us so...
• Obama has served 12 yrs at the federal and state level (4 yrs US Senate + 8 yrs IL Senate).
• Obama co-sponsored 15 bills that became federal law and co-sponsored 570 bills.
• Obama sponsored 823 bills and cast over 4000 votes in the IL Senate.
• Obama would be the first President with 10+ yrs experience as a Constitutional Law Professor.
• Obama spent 3 years as the executive in charge of a budget that went from $70K to $400K while serving as a local community organizer in Chicago.
• Obama had 80 editors under him as President of the Harvard Law Review.
• Obama's runs a campaign with over 2000 employees, more than the White House staff.
• Obama got an International Relations specialty in college, later served 4 yrs on Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
4. Executive Leadership: While John McCain's only executive experience is running his campaign, Obama has a more diverse resume that began over twenty years ago; as director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago for three years, the budget Obama oversaw went from $70,000 to $400,000, and as President of the Harvard Law Review, Obama had eighty people working under him. During this year's Democratic primary, Obama had 1280 employees at a cost of 2.61 million dollars a month, which increased to over 2000 employees in the general election, more than the President's White House staff; Obama built his campaign from the ground up to the largest in history, rejecting money from political action committees and federal lobbyists, while McCain nearly ran his campaign into bankruptcy.
Obama's leadership in running a tight campaign, described as a well-oiled machine that is devoid of internal struggle, gives us an insight into how he would lead as President; McCain's executive leadership since the primary, meanwhile, has remained dismal: "McCain's aides acknowledge frustration among fellow Republicans for the slow-to-start campaign." His missteps have brought into question his ability to lead; he has made himself appear unpresidential; and his campaign has gone so far in thwarting responsibility as to claim that McCain does not speak for McCain. His campaign website has a supporters' page which is still to this day blank, despite the story being publicly mocked months ago.
Questions about McCain's leadership go back much further, however, from assaulting a foreign leader in 1987 to pushing an old lady in a wheelchair in 1996 to repeatedly exploding in anger at members of his own party; as a result, even one of McCain's Naval Academy classmates and fellow POWs refuses to vote for him. John McCain ate cake with President Bush while Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, and when floods hit the Midwest earlier this summer, McCain issued a statement while Obama grabbed a shovel to fill sandbags, also organizing campaign supporters online to deploy volunteers and donations for disaster relief.
McCain has barely showed up for work in the Senate this year, missing 63% of the votes in 2008, and he was the sole absence on a Medicare vote for which even Ted Kennedy showed up despite his cancer; furthermore, for someone whose career in office has been an endless string of apologies for offending people, McCain hardly seems a leader with good judgment, but someone who has simply relied on The Legend of John McCain to attack others freely and without reprisal (the most chilling and disheartening irony being that by the very laws put into place by Bush and McCain, McCain's mistreatment in captivity no longer qualifies as torture).
It really sad to see and hear that some people are so hell bend on not placing a black man in the White house that they are willing to risk their own lives as well as others and this nation, and place a woman who's knowledge is very limited on world events let alone foreign policies. Wake up America if we are looking and sounding stupid to each other, think what the other countries are thinking about us. Iraq has very little respect for its own women, do you really think they care about a hockey "mom" or a pitbull with lipstick.
Obama has a stronger reform record than any Presidential candidate in modern history, having sponsored and passed the strongest ethics reform bill at the state level in decades, The Gift Ban Act, as well as the strongest ethics reform bill at the federal level in decades, The Lobbying and Ethics Reform Act. He has also co-sponsored public finance reform in Presidential and Senate races; he has been a leading advocate for a bill to require Senate candidates to file their disclosures electronically; and he authored the Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act, as well as a bill to improve voter access to polling places. John McCain's single reform accomplishment after twenty-five years in the Senate is the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill.
the obama campaign is an f'n joke....wsj what happended to you?
Imagine, a woman who keeps it real, who did not go to Harvard or Yale Law School, who did not get to the Senate becasue of who her husband waS, AMND GET STO BE ON A NATIONAL TICKET---THE hILLARY-ITES AND FEMINISTS SRE SEETHING!
Whats going on with the Americans???We have had 8 yearsof REpublican president, are we in a good place at all?? NO!! THe world hates us, we have so much debt, the war just goes on and on and if Palin has her way we will be at war with Russia and Iraq. Palin has history of abuse of power in Alaska, very arrogant and prides herself on being a pitbull with lipstick. very nice. I am a woman but she is not qualified to be vice president of the USA she has 5 kids, a infant with special needs, a teenage daughter that apparently didn't listen to her birth control/abstinence speech, goes on and on. Where is the common sense of the Americans. I am not Democratic but i want change and McCain and Palin will be more of the same for 4 more years. You had your chance with Bush and Cheney
Are we in the twilight zone where truth is determined by political affiliation? Sarah Palin is not prepared to be President. It reflects on John McCain's judgement for him to pick a woefully unprepared VP candidate. He is desparate and he is truly dangerous!
Obama is an inexperienced windbag, with a limited experience of governmental process but a powerful cult of personality. Much hay has been made about his primary experience is as a community organizer. If you ignore the whole "commander in chief of the military" thing, that's largely what the President does. Biden is a reasonably experienced 101st member of the senate. Together they remind me of the Kennedy/Johnson ticket (charisma/experience)… of course, most people forget what a miserable failure Kennedy was as this countries Chief executive. Kennedy started one war, nearly caused another, and spent most of his time in office stoned and laying flat on his back. As for Obama, I've been trying but I still can't figure out what he actually stands for other than what polls best this week. He's an empty shirt promising sunshine, puppies, and a prompt exit from Iraq.
McCain is a 72 year old dinosaur who admits he knows little to nothing about managing the world's largest economy (which is in the crapper due to a crisis of confidence, as opposed to real failure). His career has largely been that of a party-man, rarely bucking the Reagan or Bush Sr. Administrations. He was known as a "maverick" during the Clinton years because he occasionally crossed the lines to pass vanilla legislation. Any moderate tendencies he had were firmly shoved back in the closet after he handily lost the candidacy in the 2000 election. Palin is the chief executive of a state with a population of less than one million, and was the mayor of a town of less than 7000. There are 12 city mayors and hundreds of county commissioners in this country who's decisions impact more lives. Not to discount Alaska, but I'm from there so I understand lessons learned there don't translate to the lower 48. Or international politics. Or managing the senate. Or much of anything other than working closely with the oil and fisheries lobbies. To call Obama inexperienced while positioning Palin as a viable successor to McCain borders on criminally reckless.
Personally, I want to take a cue from Richard Pryor and vote "None of the above!". Leave lame duck W in office for another year and let's try again, and this time bring me real candidates.
I'm confused: Will Obama usher in Sharia law or his version of radical Christianity based on his former preacher? C'mon guys--back in the day Republicans had the discipline to stick to a single line of criticism that at least made sense on the surface.
Is McCain even aware what a liar she is? He seems out of it.
Are Candidates allowed to wear a ear transmitter, or a audio prompter, to be cued on what to say during a debate? Just wondered.
A person I know swears they saw one in Sarah Palin's right ear during the debates. I see talk on the net relating to this as if it is accepted. I thought it may be allowed if the person has a hard time remembering notes and,or,personal opinions.
To everyone commenting on the jet being sold on ebay, here's the low-down:
1. I cannot find any proof that Palin every said it was "sold" on ebay, only that it was posted there. So Palin supporters are right, she never claimed to have made money selling the jet on ebay.
2. McCain's quote at one campaign stop was, verbatim: "You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- and made a profit!" This is a lie because the McCain camp has admitted that the jet was sold at a loss after it failed to find a buyer on ebay.
3. Palin stretches the truth in many areas but I can't find any evidence that she did so in this case. McCain lied, Palin did not.
Now, can we put this ebay issue to rest?
She's an ex-beauty "queen."
Makes for great television.
Ya'll are gonna get what you vote for...she'll look good raising the chinese flag over the white house.
I visit my US in-laws at least once a year and it's still terrifying how easy it is to slip into complete ignorance about current affairs and how difficult it is to locate balanced, intelligent analysis of US and especially world politics. From the majority European perspective:you guys vote in Obama/Biden, we'll exhale loudly in relief and do all we can to work with the prodigious nation you are to fix the problems we face. You vote in the double-talking, war-mongering, ordinary-folk-hating, wall-st-loving, plutocrat-partisan 'alternative'..and, well, not just Europe, but the rest of the world is just gonna wash it's hands of you. You KNOW we don't want that-you WERE mighty once-but if you prove once again incapable of fulfilling your responsibility as citizens of a true republic..well..
Yes, America must vote according to what Europeans want! Go Obama!
Your story is bunk. Palin's opposition to the Bridge is accurate. The sequence of events is your only friend. And your claim that it's not quite, not entirely, true, is not quite, not entirely, true. After a single statement of pro forma support for it with support for her party's candidate, she never advocated for it. It remained in Congressional voting long enough for Obama and Biden to vote for it two more times, and never to vote against it. The money was detached from a mandate for the bridge, but could have been used for the bridge; it then was sent to Alaska BEFORE Palin became governor. Her transition team recommended against it, and when she got in office and had the only chance to do anything about it, she killed it. SHE KILLED IT. Her story is quite entirely true. Yours is not.
It's kind of telling that you consider the account of the teleprompter malfunction debunked because reporters agree it wasn't, while dismissing the person who was actually using it. You exaggerate her claim of malfunction, then you say it was minimal. It malfunctioned, she managed it, that's it. The claim that she avoids unscripted moments is belied by attendance at her events and observance of them. Does she give written speeches? GOSH, yes! Does she talk unscripted? Well, yes. And well. Unlike the stumbling, lost Obama, who without a script wanders immediately into incoherence until he can latch onto a cliche or trail off an unfinished sentence.
The Clintons showed that
Oh dear. Clearly Obama is far from perfect, knows some dodgy people, and is not averse to bending the truth himself - just like McCain.
But Palin? She is not a liar in the usual political sense. She tells lies that can be shown to be empirically untrue by anyone with access to the public record. Many of these lies are trivial, but their triviality is related to the fact that they are utterly unnecessary.
In the past month we have discovered the following:
Palin told one interviewer that she asked her daughters for permission to accept McCain's veep offer; she told another that she had accepted the offer immediately and unblinkingly without asking anyone. The first version was, it turned out, a lie. But it sounded good for the 10 seconds needed on national television.
She insisted back in Wasilla that she did not fire the police chief. When the reporter called the cop to check, he read a termination letter, signed by Palin, over the telephone. Despite her claim to Couric, Palin has not met any trade missions from Russia.
She did not oppose the "bridge to nowhere" in Alaska; she lobbied for it. She said she sold a state aeroplane on eBay. She did not. She claimed her Teleprompter failed in her convention speech. It did not. She said Alaska's state scientists had concluded that polar bears were in no danger. A journalist's legal request to review the report showed that she had lied and the scientists had indeed said the bear was endangered. Palin said Alaska provided "nearly 20% of the US domestic supply of energy". It does not. The gas pipeline she touts as her main "mission accomplished" has not broken ground and may never do so. She says she took a pay cut as mayor of Wasilla. She did not. And on and on.
These lies are not in any dispute because they are factually checkable. To avoid any engagement on these subjects and the untruths she has told, she refuses to hold a press conference of any type.
Sarah Palin should go back to her frozen meth lab of a town where she belongs. She could not name a SINGLE newspapers she was reading, did not know a SINGLE Sup. Ct. ruling, except for Roe v Wade, and she did not answer questions during debate. She is a truth-streatcher at best, if not an outright liar. She reminds me of Bush but a bit worse.
Friday, October 3, 2008
In Support of the Press:
It is unequivocally irresponsible of any politician or political party to undermine the integrity of the press as a whole. The press serves a role in a social community, and to undermine the credibility of that role is disingenuous and dangerous. It is the antithesis of patriotism.
So, as the candidates and their followers heat up the ridicule and the mocking of the press, let's all remember to remind them that it's a fairly remarkable thing that all dictators, despots, and fascists start out by ridiculing and mocking the press in order to undermine reality and facts.
Palin is no better or worse than Obama.
Atleast she is not running to be president while he is.
He points to Biden when asked how many times he has visited Iraq. I guess you can coopt the experience of your running mate.
I find it condescending when he gives these statements of how he has been warning several years in advance of every kind of crisis that is coming our way. So which is the next crisis Mr Obama, is it you yourself.
I can't possibly read all of these posts, but regarding the whole eBay jet thing, this is what she actually said:
"I got rid of a few things in the governor's office that I didn't believe our citizens should have to pay for. That luxury jet was over-the-top. I put it on eBay."
While she carefully did not say "I sold it on eBay", she did say that she "got rid" of the jet, and then mentioned eBay. Not just that it was sold, or how it was actually sold. She mentioned eBay to give everyone the impression that it was sold on eBay.
Direct lie? No. Lie of omission? Probably. Manipulation? Yeah, you betcha.
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