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BO is of course correct,
the D's won,
but that still does not make the concept that 50% of the American public will not be paying Fed Income taxes / some will get a check for breathing, correct.
(1/2 of the population has no "skin in the game" in regard to the national defense, national parks, interstate highway system, etc. Not a positive for the long term survival of our democracy, IMHO.)
Well, only 52% of voters went for Obama, so by that logic the package should be 52% what Democrats want and 48% what Republicans want.
Obama is correct, he is in the Oval Office. The Republicans should refuse to support this bill and make it clear to the American people that "Obama won", and it's all on him and the Democrats.
Mr Obama and his fellow democrats are correct. He did win. Convincingly.
As a moderate American with no particular party affiliation I will say that Mr Obama should put away the boasting and get to work. He did win and he is expected to do the things he promised. If not it might be a short victory lap.
Well, then clearly the Republicans should submit with the same grace and goodwill displayed by the Democrat caucus over the past eight years.
"I won" really makes him sound like an arrogant jerk. Apparently "post-partisan" means "my way or else" in Barry's lexicon.
The Republicans need to remind Obama that he was elected president, not king, and that republics proceed through debate, not dictates. It's going to be a long and contentious 4 years. Obama is as partisan as they come, his rhetoric to the contrary aside.
For the record, Obama won by 53 percent (52.9), not 52. Oh, and what was it that Bush said after the 2004 election that he won by a margin that was only slightly better than his popular vote LOSS in 2000 -- I think it was something like, "I've got political capital and I intend to spend it."
Sum Dood - the Republicans should not submit at all, all grace aside. The Republicans should stand up for their principles, and make it very clear to the American people what the differences between them and the Obamacrats are.
So much for creating an environment where both parties solve big problems together. A statement like that the 3rd day on the job means someone was overserved at the ball with Nancy's special kool-aid. Leave the trash talk on the b-ball court.
Taking hard earned money from the most productive 50% of the working people to give to the other 50% is no stimulus package. That is socialism and prescription for economic failure. By what right does the government have to take property from earners to give to others? This will not create jobs but create welfair recipients. Tax cuts will foster investment and job creation, not welfare!
The GOP ought to let Obama and the Dems have their way on this stimulus stuff without causing a fuss. Let the Dems sink or swim on the recovery without having anyone to blame if it doesn't go. If it works, they will get all the credit anyway.
Republicans DID NOT get 48% of the vote. They got 45.7%.
46% did not listen.
"I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."
-George W. Bush after squeaking out a victory in 2004.
So happy to hear that Mr. Infanticide's mask is falling off.
It is fun to watch how things remain the same - just different sides LOL! Both in office and here in the comments. I read the "I Won" and I imagine GW saying it with a twinkle in his eye - and I know I wouldn't have find it arrogant or inflammatory - but reverse it and I get indignant - we are such petty people aren't we?
Mark - the Republicans should make a fuss, but not filibuster. The Obamacrats have the votes to get it through without Republican support, which Obama wants only as a CYA. The Republicans should make it very clear that they do not support this and the responsibility for it lies solely with the Obamacrats.
Rosied30's comment reminds me of a political cartoon that showed George W. Bush strolling through the genocide of war torn Darfur asking, "Any embryos here need saving?"
you dimwit - that means only 30%of the army should have been sent to Iraq - you moron
In fact, the Republicans should be proactive, bringing an alternate plan to the American people. Obama's "bipartisanship" means "You sit down, shut up, and go along with whatever I say". There is no reason for the Republicans to play this game.
The GOP had better wake up to the fact that they need to do what is right for American people. If the GOP does not listen, and they go along with everything Obama and the Democrates want, the GOP might just disappear.
That we're still in the middle of an economic crisis brought on by the Republicans over the past 8 years. When he said, He "won" he meant that by America choosing him, they sided with his view of the role of government in people's lives. If the government can provide "corporate" welfare (lax SEC oversight, poor IRS enforcement on high net worth individuals, tax loopholes, never-before-seen expansion of the federal government, massive increase in the federal deficit), then they certainly can throw a grand or two to people to keep them in their houses/apartments and keep food on the table. If you want economic instability, see what poor people who have access to guns do when there's no food on the table and no where to live.
Another incendiary headline (a la fox news). What the hell was the context of the quote?
You Rebublicans do remember getting your asses kicked in the last 2 elections - losers need to step aside and let the new team clean up W's mess.
Impeach Obama!
Yes, Obama won, by a few percentage points. Let's not pretend it was a landslide or mandate (any more than GWB's two term victory). Additionally, that win doesn't suspend debate. Jeesh, the arrogance. We didn't elect BHO "king" of the U.S.. Everything is debatable... He can say "I won" to the people that work directly for him to silence debate, but Congress critters do NOT work directly for him. They are responsible _only_ to their constituents (i.e. "the people").
Politics is a partisan game. You don't win elections to implement the other guy's agenda. The ideological differences are too large to bridge with happy talk. It's a full contact sport.
To think that the government, which constitutes 18% of GDP, can spend us out of this mess without private sector support (which generates the other 82% of GDP), is the definition of folly. The private sector isn't playing along and as a result, the government's effort to stimulate the economy will fail. All they are doing is piling debt upon debt.
Their strategy is folly and it will be shown to be highly flawed.
Let's --- and Obama has the votes to get what he wants through without Republican support, and he will have to be accountable for the consequences.
We'll whether 52% of the American people still agree with him in November, 2010.
Oh, please! The Earned Income Tax Credit has been around since 1975. If the GOP wanted to end it, they had from 1994 to 2006 to do it - so why get testy because Obama isn't making it part of his tax plan? This is not Obama saying 'My way or the highway.' This is Obama saying that the voters have already made the decision on this one, and we're not going to revisit it. Repealing the credit would make a lot of people angry - which is why the GOP doesn't have the guts to touch it themselves, but would be perfectly happy to force a Democrat to do it - then use it as a campaign slogan against them in 2010.
Don't think we can't see through this, you GOP hacks.
"...bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.". Hey Jonathan, it's not some "notion". Giving someone money from someone else's income (ie credit) is welfare, not a tax cut. Nice try...
50% of Americans don't pay Federal income taxes? Technically, you're correct. However, both Social Security and Medicare and, essentially, income taxes, at least from the individual's perspective.
Obama is simply stating fact that an argument with two reasonable sides was resolved when he won the election. He isn't saying the Republicans are wrong. He's saying simply: "I won, so I'm going with my solution."
Republicans are so primed for a fight that they take offense at everything.
Let's not forget has a point. The past tax cut strategies haven't worked because they have aggravated an already unconscionable wealth divide. In horse racing, you don't give the older stronger horse a lighter jockey and expect it to be a fair race. Besides many of these corporate moguls have behaved badly and should bear much of the responsibility for the housing mess that we find ourselves in. Unless we find a way to properly educate and gainfully employ the majority of our citizens, we're in trouble anyway. Those that keep hollering about "taking away taxes from productive Americans don't understand that or have never examined income distribution in this country. These deadbeats they seem to allude to are over 60% of the population.
Social Security and Medicare taxes go to pay for, well, Social Security and Medicare, both of which are tens of trillions of $$$ in the red over the next few decades. Cutting these is not a good idea, but if Obama wants to cut them, let him do so rather than cutting a check from the Treasury. A cut in withholding would get the money into the economy more efficiently, but that wouldn't involve Americans receiving a big, fat, vote-buying check from Obama they can use to buy junk at Walmart. Sick.
"I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."
Yes, some political capital, but it shows that he had some consideration to the other side. Some people should apply critical reasoning a little better. It also assumes that it is not an unlimited or absolute amount.
Since the Obama team is so keen on history, they need to read up on the 1994 Congressional elections. Two years after 'he won' Clinton was in deep muck and the arrogance was gone. He did an about face, and tried to become Reagan, the Sequel. Likewise in 2006, Bush was facing an inept and partisan bunch, and he was unable to get anything through Congress.
The Manchurian Candidate certainly does not build confidence in the GOP with his comment. He has clearly set the table for stark debate between the two factions once again. Let's all remember that he is nothing but a dirty politian anyways.
Why didn't Colin Powell run?
I like the GOP's plan. if you make over $10,000 a year then you will get $500 tax break from either plan. i make around if you make 38,000 you should get about a $1,700 tax break. That seems to be targeted directly to the midle class. Go GOP!
-from 23 yr Obama supporter
Both Social Security and Medicare (are) essentially income taxes, unless you are Tim Geithner, in which case they are, apparently, optional.
And another thing. Why is it that those on the right can't get Obama's winning percentage correct. He won 52.9% of the vote which rounds to 53% while McCain won 45.7% or 46%. Any way you count it, it's a 7 pt margin. It seems that some have a vested interest in reducing Obama's margin in order to make the point that it wasn't a decisive win. It was.
It isn't just that Obama won: what's more important for legislative purposes is that the Democrats won a 59-seat supermajority in the Senate. The Republicans lost badly.
Now in spite of that, President Obama has been quite respectful and open to opinions from all sides so far. I'm pretty sure that if Republicans have constructive suggestions to offer, then he'll listen. But the context is that we've had 8 years of Republican tax cuts for the rich, while median real income has declined and a huge financial crisis has developed. Republicans suggesting that we need more of the same utterly failed policies are not going to do themselves any favors.
Working with the opposition is one thing. Letting them have the upper hand is another- maybe not artful but certainly a timely reminder by the big O.
From the post
"With those two words — "I won" — the Democratic president let the Republicans know that debate has been put to rest Nov. 4 ."
let me fix that:
"With those two words — "I won" — the Democratic president let the Republicans know that he feels the debate has been put to rest Nov. 4".
Yes Obama won and most Ds and Rs support his efforts to rebuild the economy. But this country is built on checks and balances. We expect our loyal opposition to make sure there is sense, balance, reason and practicality in any plan. Waste and failure has too often been the result of a lack of checks in the system.
This has been a dangerous few days under Barry's inkpen.
If these infrastructure projects (Barry's Hope and Change New Deal Stimulus '09) had such a great ROI, it wouldn't take a act of congress to approve them.
This is nothing more than a pandering job.
Let's not forget - how aptly named you are. Yes, lets remember that the growth of the economy following the Bush tax cuts produced 52 consecutive months of growth - faster than any other industrialized country. Let's not forget Fannie, Freddie or those that fought every effort to reign them in (Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank). You paint a picture of a world that only exists in the underclass (mostly made by 80% of their children having grown up without their daddies). It was the BIG Government policies that got us into this mess. Now you will have your trillion dollar stimulus induced deficits and nothing more than earmarks to show for them. Less than 3% of the tax burden is paid by the bottom 50%. GWB's cuts made the code even more progressive
The top 20% of earners pay 80% of income taxes, so of course they benefitted most from tax cuts, in dollar terms...moreover if either Dems or Pubs were honest they would suggest scrapping the almost 70,000 page tax code and replacing it with a flat tax...congress critters use the tax code to curry favor with special interests, not to raise revenues...they also use it to engage in class warfare...if ALL workers paid the same, low, flat rate in income taxes we would all be better off
Obama agreed with the republicans about deeper tax cuts for small businesses. Obama was directly challenged concerning his authority on leading the bail out package. Not only did Obama win he has a 84% approval rating. Despite that, Obama is willing to work with the GOP on refining the stimulus package and adding some of their ideas. That does not mean Obama is going to roll over on his campaign promises to the public because some in the GOP want him to. Obama will work with the GOP but not kow-toe to them. Same with the far left. Many want Obama to roll back all the Bush tax cuts but Obama understands in a time when business is not blooming tax hikes would hurt jobs creation. Obama is well balanced in his thinking.
I agree w Bernie! Now as to what the GOP should do...FIGHT LIKE HELL AS CONSERVATIVES, NOT LAY ON THEIR BACKS W THEIR FEET IN THE AIR LIKE DEAD BUGS! RESIST NEVER SUBMITT.....DID THE DEMS STOP RESISTING IN 2001 OR 2005 ...CERTAINLY NOT!
There have been no input from the right that has been listened by this guy. You need to pull your head out.
so much for a fresh start in Washington and a new era of change. BTW, didn't he nominate a lobbyist for Dept. DOD? (so he lied when he said the lobbyist/govt. revolving door is over)
checks and balances were done away with when Bush "beat" Gore.
I remember clearly when the Republicans were in charge it was said repeatedly that if they Democrats wanted to change policy they had to win elections. President Obama is simply saying the same thing.
The system is what it is. Win elections and you get to have the high horse. Win enough elections and you can ride away with all the booty.
Dear Republicans and you schills at the WSJ. We tried it your way for 8 long years. With the exception of the select few of you who just got the biggest government handout in the history of history, we are pretty much all worse off for it.
Just yesterday the news came out that the boys at Merril cut themselves a check for 4 BILLION of our dollars!
When I think of the hundreds of times in my lifetime that I have seen a republican cry and scream and throw a tantrum over a fraction of that amount being used to feed the poor in this country, I am sickened!
You ignorant fools blindy looked the other way when we had no checks and balances whatsover the last 8 years, and now you want to speak up?
Obama is completely right! You lost! Shut up and take it!
As for flat a flat tax code... we only need to look to Mexico to see how well that plays out. No government assistance programs and a flat tax code for the past 30 years.
all the money pools to the top 1% and the masses starve.
The GOP would be wise to read the handwriting on the wall.
Research 2000 poll: 1/19-22/09
Dem Party 57
Rep Party 34
Congressional Dem 41
Congressional Rep 26
I see the GOOPers are now bucking for fewer than 40 Senate seats in 2010. Go ahead, obstruct your way into oblivion, you proudly ignorant nimrods.
The Republican fools who have destroyed this country for the last 8 years + can go to Hell, where most of them will eventually end up.
To Dr Phil: that's 52 months of bouncing Republican checks, followed by the banks all 'suddenly discovering' that Republicans have no capital to spend at all, hence the collapse to Hoover level economic status.
And to 'King Obama', who said "The Republicans should stand up for their principles." Please, you're killing me. If your party had principles, they evaporated Dec 13th, 2000.
I wish the Republican's could come up with some new ideas. They lost my vote and unless they come up with a rational alternative, they will remain marginalized, and perceived to be a bunch of wackos.
Cal Damage,
The article was vague and poorly referenced the "I won" comment. I would like to know the exact context.
Surely Obama is not so stupid to think that because he won that he can do whatever he wants with the stimulus.
If I recall correctly, an $800 Billion dollar stimulus in addition to TARP was not on the table on Nov. 4th, and therefore there is no way that the election is a mandate for Obama to give out welfare to lazy americans who don't work.
Someone remind me, were the Dems this bitter after 2000 and 2004?
Oh, that's right, I guess they were. Oh well. Life goes on. The fact remains, if you don't like it....WIN MORE ELECTIONS. If you can't then sit in your pews and wait for your god to deliver you from the evil that is Obama. Oh, that's right, Obama prays to the same god. You're screwed.
amazing - after watching the results of their deregulate-and-tax-cut-for-the-rich strategy, these idiot conservatives say they want more of the same. is there a special school for stupid that they go to?
If you ask me, many Americans did not understand what was at stake in the election.
I feel that a majority of the Oboma supporters
made the mistake of basing their vote on hatred of President Bush and their hatred of the Iraq war.
The Republicans had a decade to try their ideas and for the most part, they failed. The issues were put to a vote, and the majority wanted to junk to old failed platitudes and try something else. The flip side of "I won" is "you lost". So now get used to the fact your ideology failed and let's move on.
Remember the whisper chain when the quote by the final person is *always* different?
Besides, when was any meeting by the W team ever published? Oh wait, it was "official secrets"!
C'mon guys... perspective.
The dems voted against and fought Bush (along w/the media) everyday during his presidency.
You dems won because of McCain's lackluster campaign and the media's involvement. In addition, you won congressional seats because of the 95-97% blacks voting straight democrat while voting for Obama.
Quit acting so high and mighty. Let's see what happens in 2 years when some congressional seats come up for grabs.
Answer me something, dems. Who is Obama and what does he really stand for?
Some of you are proudly (and justly) saying that Obama took almost 52% of the vote and won the spoils of victory for the Democrats. Some of you are also suggesting that Obama should alienate the other 48% and punish them fiercely. Do you really believe that punishing 48% of the population economically will not also hurt the 52%?
taxes are taxes are taxes i pay more in absurd real estate taxes than in federal taxes so i want $$$ back !!!
Dr Phil-
We now know that that growth was a facade. Though Fannie Mae may have encouraged making housing available for a wider group of people, it didn't facilitate wholesale flouting of rules about qualifying for said loans. And it didn't require that after the bad loans were made, that they be parceled up and sold as if they were Grade A paper. That would be the greedy mortgage brokers and Wall Street investment banks. And who says that rapid growth is what's best for the world's largest economy. These rapid growth spurts have invariably been followed by even more dramatic declines. And even when it was going on, our infrastructure continued decaying. That's why Obama wants the stimulus to attack that problem. That's why it just won't be tax cuts.
Maybe the stimulus package will give everyone some of those fake Roman columns used at the Invesco speech in August - think of the jobs that would create...........
I am a devote Republican and yes President Obama won the election. I will support him unlike my democrat type friends that did not support President Bush; I'm better than that.
It should not matter by what percentage, he won. Instead of arguing with the man, we should support his plan and at least give it a try. I disagree with the President that paying into Social Security system is "paying taxes" since these funds are in theory a forced supplemental retirement account. Even though the system is set up for current workers to pay for current retirees, it is still a retirement system. You get out of it to some degree by what you put into it. Sales Tax and Property Taxes are also questionable taxes but I'll give him that.
The only thing that the President must keep in mind is that the % of non-Income Tax payers that elected him is probably greater than the Income Tax payers that did not vote for him. A person paying Income Tax will finally get tired of paying for the other person who is not paying tax and this re-distribution of the a person's reward without the redistribution of work can only go for so long. Let's support the President until this happens.
I would also ask Bill Gates how much Income Tax he paid on the Billions of appreciated property he transferred tax free to his foundation. Canvas Hollywood and hit them up for a little help in paying for the President's plan. The working class, those with jobs that haven't been shipped overseas, is tired of carrying the country. Let's support the President until those jobs come home.
I believe the President will do a good job and that his heart is in the right place. Let's support him
Tomorrow at lunch, I'll probably take the tip I should give my waitress and just hand it to the down and out guy on the street that is holding the sign up saying he will work for food. I'll save the government the expense of collecting, administering and distribution of the money.
Mexico doesn't have a flat tax, unless you are referring to the VAT which exists along with other taxes...Mexico also does not have an efficient system for collecting taxes...it has a large underground economy...it is also highly corrupt...
DickRichard, You NeoCons throw "Dems hate Bush" crap around and it doesn't stick. Bush had help getting us into this mess, and that's reason the GOP lost seats in the congress and senate.
To FredN
Wingnut talking points.
The Congressional Dems bent over backwards for Bush. That is why their approval rating is on par with his.
The media was also complacent. How the heck do you think we ended up in Iraq? Mushroom clouds?
And what would it gain Obama politically to 'punish' the other 48%? Regardless of what Obama wants, we aren't going anywhere and if he wants our support, he's going to have to do more than just listen to our ideas, he's going to have to accept them. Telling us to sit down and shut up isn't going to get it done.
Where was the Republican sense of fiscal conservatism during the last 8 years? Your a bunch of hypocrits and sore losers. Everyone remembers that the Republicans can outspend a Democratic administration into the ground.
So Obama's stimulus program provides tax cuts for people who pay no income taxes. His program envisions modified loans for homeowners who bought homes they couldn't afford. It envisions a trillion dollars in deficit spending paid for by higher taxes on 5 percent of the people. When, pray tell, does the "new era of personal responsibility" begin?
Well said, BigDuke. Biggest bunch of babies, losers, and tools as I've seen posting on here. But then, this is the WSJ, so I'm not too surprised.
appalledanddismayed - after the Dems forced the banks to make those bad loans, what did you think the Dems intended for them to do with them? 'Spread' the risk around the rest of the economy or sit on them and go bankrupt? C'mon.
LET'S ALL WIN! In this current economic crisis, it is critical that the eventual economic recovery plan, "WE ALL WIN!" This includes Democrats, Republicans, Big Business, the working class and the jobless. That's TOUGH but a coherent enactable SUSTAINABLE and RENEWABLE Monetary Policy for our current economic crisis is available at http://www.theprosperitymandate.org OBAMA ADMIN, click on...
Reality - Obama is going to bring us a $2 trillion deficit this year and promises trillion $ deficits for years to come. Even President Bush would blush at this. You were saying?
Newt Gingrich also thought he had a mandate!
Power corrupts and...
The quote sounds like a parody to me, but Rs do not like satire unless it is at the expense of people less greedy?
It certainly is naive for either a democrat or republican to believe that a party has a corner on what is "right".
What US citizens want ... and all government should listen ... is a set of corrections to be made. We do not expect that a "democratic win", if even by 4%, should be considered a mandate and full endorsement of ideas. Such is furthest from the truth.
I am very grateful for the political stability we enjoy in the United States. There are days, however, when I believe that the complacency engendered by a four year administration could/should be upset by an occasional government sacking.
Losing sight of government's purpose in our democracy, and misrepresenting a win as an endorsement of flawed policies formed by many of the players who remain in office, would be a mistake.
If anything, I think Obama has been overly respectful to the Republicans. It's about time he reminded them, in blunt words, of the political reality. Frankly, I hope the Republicans will keep on carping and whining, because it will just deepen the hole they are in. Sooner or later, they will realize that the worm has turned.
He did win. Get used to it you crybaby Republicans. We Dems had to listen to the arrogant braying of W. Obama is trying to clean up your mess. So own up to your failed policies and fall in. America, love it or leave it.
Religion requires it's believers to suspend disbelief and simply accept things on faith.
The neo-conservative cult still believes their discredited economic theories to be the gospel, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
They just keep pointing to the snapshots in time when everything looked rosy, and they never want to own up to long-term consequences of their faith-based economic theories.
And President Obama is their version of the Antichrist, for repudiating the wretched voodoo economics of supply-side theory.
(sigh)There is nothing so exhausting as arguing with a moron...
Thats right he won. The people want what Obama's selling. The Republicans can go straight to Hell. They don't even deserve to be consulted on the economy since its their econ polocies that have brought to this crisis.
I'm actually not American. The view from outside your house is that it's on fire and that you all think too short term to realize that you should think of new ways to quickly heat your house other than setting the living room rug on fire; Republicans, Democrats, Industry and Population alike.
When will Republicans get it through their skulls that a payroll tax credit is no more a gift than an income tax credit?
Obviously Midwest doesn't have a clue.
Wow. Some of these responses are beyond incredible. Are we a generation of thinkers or simply name callers?
I don't have a clue Michael? Get real. You think like a self-absorbed, semi-educated, self-pitying Rush Limbaugh listener. I've got a big old bag of clues. Here's one: your political part is destructive and out of touch and out of office. You lost. America doesn't like what you're selling. God bless America.
Obama trolls pollute the Internet these days...unable to have a fact based discussion...just "Bush bad" "Obama good"...just ignore them...why argue with a besotted cult member?
My comment to all of the Democrats that think bashing the Republicans and calling us names and condemning President Bush think it is their right to complain and not ours. Try and pull this off without us. My daughter is a democrat and she thinks my money is hers. Guess what she doesn't work either.
Looks like the GOP:
- is hurt at the comment
- is reverting back to its tricks
- is not able to come out with any other idea
....what was it with the last D President...Monika Lew.....
With the country reeling and the population looking for relief, the GOP is displaying amazing level of sensitivity to its ego rather than to the problems the electors are facing.
Wonder why this does not surprise me!!!
Go Republicans Go! - you got something going here...
It's so interesting to watch Bush's Republican base wallowing in sweaty pools of fear, now that their surrogate daddy has gone home to Texas.
Why weren't any of you frightened while George W. Bush, the President with the 2-digit IQ, was dipping into your IRAs, to the tune of 45%, via his market-crashing bad decision making?
Didn't it scare you that, while he was protecting frozen embryos from destruction, he was sending the post-born to off die in his war fantasy?
Doesn't it bother any of you that when he happily said, "Come on Laura, we're going home", he left over 100,000 Americans in the quagmire of Iraq?
If y'all (to talk Bush-style) want the Republican party to rise again, you need to offer up decent candidates with brains next time.
No Bushes. No Palins. Got it?
Last time I checked, 40% of my paycheck walked out the door in TAXES under Bush, between Medicare, Soc Sec, Fed, State, City... I'm lucky to have a good paying job (or had, lost that about a month ago - Thanks W!!!) and the skills hopefully to get another one, but "I won" to me means "Sen Kyl, Business as Usual that put us in this mess will not fly anymore."
And oh by the way, depressing the Fed Funds rate to 1-1.25 percent for over a YEAR let everyone back up the truck and load up on cheap-ass debt. This happened under W's watch, and now we get an "oops, my bad" from Greenspan? Please...
The leadership of the Republican machine has been arrogant (Rummy/Cheney) disrespectful (Bremer) and stupid (Palin) for too long. Let's see what Pres Obama does before screaming and hollering....
That's right, Republicans need to keep in mind that the American people DID NOT choose them.
Working with the other side to build consensus is not a bad thing. But those in the minority need to face the simple fact that they lost the election by a very convincing margin.
It should come as no surprise that President Obama isn't going to give in on every point. That's not partisanship per se. It's policymaking by the majority party. It's democracy.
Working with the other side to build consensus is not a bad thing. But those in the minority need to face the simple fact that they lost the election by a very convincing margin, the largest in decades.
It should come as no surprise that President Obama isn't going to give in on every point. That's not partisanship per se. It's policymaking by the majority party. It's democracy.
Sounds like your problem, Michael, is your daughter, not my political party. My kids are highly paid professionals and Democrats. Go figure. The fact that Republicans even CLAIM Bush as one of their own is proof enough that the party has no relevance to today's modern USA. You guys have decimated honorable conservatism for the sake of a few. Hats off. You did to your own party what no pitchfork wielding commie could have ever done. And by pitchfork wielding commie I mean, of course, a Democrat. Comrade.
Repubs are getting a taste of their own medicine here. I say GOOD!!! And, my response to them is - there wasn't any bipartisanship under bush jr.'s reign, why should it start now? What President Obama should have said after "I won" was "Take that, Losers"!! Repubs better get comfortable in their role as the minority opposition, because they're going to play that role for a long, long time. They've got nobody to blame but themselves. America rejected the repub philosphy at the polls by a stunning margin, because it's finally evident that repubs are radical, greedy, and completely inept as the ruling party.
Hey Michael, I have one of those too! Are you from my neighborhood?
A few terms for all you Republicans out there:
Dem rule 1933-68
Can't trust GOP on the economy.
You are a blink of an eye from revisiting Hoover.
The GOP should stick to their principles: tax cuts for the rich and corporations, distastrous unprovoked wars, and unparalled incompetence. The last eight years showed just how effective those principles are.
Nice...He probably made the "I won" remark with a smile and now we can all discuss it and waste our time. Obama is willing to listen to all...EVEN McCain said that so what are you all talking about???!!! Blame Obama for deficits...are you kidding me!!! Both sides are for a stimulus package but just are having trouble agreeing on how to implement it...so both sides are for huge deficits to get us out of this mess that Bush created while having a Grand O'l Party :) on the job!!
I don't understand...Wallstreet's incompetence has brought this country to its knees. As a taxpayer, I'm spending my hard-earned money on corporate welfare to bail you losers out. And you're complaining about socialism? Look in the mirror people. You and yours are receiving the biggest welfare check that I've ever seen.
to all these people posting that the dems only won by 52% and that they should be taking repub ideas into consideration......where were you people when bush lost in 2000 and barely won in 2004? i didnt see you having any problems when he ran with his radical right wing agenda that wrecked this country. elections have consequences!! you lost, so suck it up and tell your leadership not to screw guys in 2010.
Vote Libertarian and all the arguments will end. This has become a DEM vs. Rep nation. We have been taken over by childishness. Way to grow America!
If you dont pay Social security and Medicare taxes then you shouldnt be eligible when you get old (assuming that it's still around). I'm fine with the EITC as long as their claim to SS and Medicare is reduced by the same amount....
Midwest, I'm glad you have a good handle on this and I hope your professional children are happy to send in 55% of their income to correct the problems created by your previous democrat. Tell them not to cheat, not that they would, on their taxes; good fatherly advise. I know you think your Midwest jobs traveled overseas and your mortgages failed because we loaned to everyone under President Bush, but they didn't.
Next time you go to sleep, you stop and thank President Bush that you have not worried about a terrorist attack. When you stand the line then you can say God Bless America and the Marines that supported Him.
If Repuke officeholders are going to behave like petulant, spoiled children, then President Obama will address them accordingly.
Look..the Republicans have a right to demand to be listened to and their viewpoints be respected but no right to demand that their viewpoints be translated into policy. That's why we have a CEO in chief..and that's why " I won" put the record straight on that. Bush for all practical purposes said the same thing.." I have political capital and I'm going to spend it". No one on the right challenged him that he wasn't incorporating democratic policies into his plans then..so stop whining and start working on your own plans!
The elephants have been forced to take a long walk in the woods.....We'll see you in a few election cycles when you finally get it and decide to drag yourselves into 21st century politics.
Hey Michael,
I swear, I will have a heart attack the day I hear a conservative take responsibility for anything. You're telling me that Bush has had absolutely no impact on the economy over the past eight years and thus bears no blame? I guess the Republican definition of "responsibility" differs from that in the dictionary.
Get over it Republicans, you lost.
Republican ideas and actions screwed things up so badly the past 8-years that you should be grateful that even you're being given an opportunity to speak.
Yeah Michael, every time I walk past the pit of the World Trade site, I thank President Bush for paying attention to his daily briefings and preventing the September 11th attacks - oh, wait, you say he DIDN'T keep us safe that day??? Was he clearing brush in Crawford when that memo came out? Well, dang.
I think we need to give the guy more than 4 days in office to pass judgment on whether or not any comments are arrogant or such. Arrogance reached new heights in the previous administration. It would be nice if the business and political communities focused on results instead of bluster for a change.
Wow, these Obamabots are MORONS. No wonder 50% of them can't even name the party in control of Congress. Stand strong Republicans. Put forward an alternative. Obama will get his plan through and fail, and we will pick up the pieces in 2010.
I think Obama did the right thing reminding the republicans that HIS views carried the election. Typical republicans to act like they are in power even when they are not. Most of the objections are political in nature and not substantive.
On another note, if Bush and the repubs hadn't screwed this country for the last 8 years, none of this would be necessary.
Has this been linked to on the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos?
Why is it that giving $500 to a person with a 10K annual income is socialism that must be abolished, but giving $4billion in tax breaks to an oil company that turned 90 billion in profits is called a free-market economy?
I repeat, the argument was over repealing the Earned Income Tax Credit, which the GOP could have repealed in their 2001 or 2003 tax cut plan, but didn't. So don't expect Obama to do it for you. If you don't have the guts to repeal it yourself, if you're too afraid of the politcal fallout, then just accept it and shut up.
And this is only the first of many times Obama is going to have to remind the GOP that their old, tired, failed policies aren't going to be on his agenda. The citizens had enough of you between 2000 and 2006: get with the program, or get outta town.
To Huh?
No, it is not a left wing conspiracy - the reality of just how bad those Bush years were is finally setting in.
Yep, it has been linked to on the Huffington Post. I was wondering where these idiots were coming from.
Nice to see everyone so civil. Our country is divided and full of hate and meanness. So much for working together for the good of the country. We should physically divide the country in two, put the liberals on the left side, the conservatives on the right and start over. I'm embarrassed to be citizens with so many of you mean folks posting here.
This is very hilarious. The GOP has principles? GOP wants bipartisanship? GOP does not like Presidential arrogance? The questions go on.
Seems like there is some virus that cause amnesia which is going around Republic circles. They seem to have lost all memory of their arrogance and Bush worship of the last eight years.
No, it's a left-wing conspiracy. And if you think things are bad now, give Obama a couple years to work his "magic".
Right on 5:02pm.
What happens when the Republicans take over again in 2, 4 or 8 years? Does that mean they can do anything they want because "they won".
Actually BO won by 53% to 46%.
I thought the whole point was that Obama was going to bring "change", not more of what you allege is the "same"? More lies...Obama's fall will be hard and fast.
Dear Obama,
1. We vote politicians into office to serve and fight for every voice, please let our democracy continue to run that way and give everyone a chance to speak. Listen to the voice that might not be as loud and 2. Please quit spending my money before I have even earned it. Thank you.
God Bless America
I'm not sure why the right thinks that there will be a sea change in congress in 2010. First, Obama has already written off 2009. If a modest recovery in the market occurs starting in 2010 and the job losses subside, he will be able to say that his program is working. Several Republican senators have announced retirement and some reside in states that stand to be even more democratic in 2010. Given the amount of anger that American's feel toward Bush, I doubt that we will be ready to turn congress back over to the right. Besides, republicans look to be increasingly in the grip of the evangelicals which will further marginalize them in the eyes of the rest of us. The fact that they look for such a quick return to power lets me know that they are still in a state of denial.
Yep - here's the link on the Huffington Post:
Why don't you all go back to HateLand and drown in your bile there?
Oh, might I had that Rush Limbaugh wants Pres Obama to fail... so again, the conservative far right would prefer to see the US's problems get worse because able to say "I told you so" is better than fixing the problems that are destroying our economy....
We need solutions... and "King Obama" - the name calling of supporters is part and parcel of why there was such a resounding thump in 2006 continued in 2008. Americans are tired of name-calling, and want solutions. If you want to make the country better, then get involved on a personal level and do it. I happened to vote for Pres Obama in 2008. I would have voted for Sen McCain in 2000 before Karl Rove and his machine dismantled him.
And if you don't like Pres Obama's plan, then write your representatives or help find a solution.
To Anonymous: That is hilarious; "Does that mean (the Republicans) can do anything they want because "they won"."
Didn't you notice?
Attention liberal morons. Please go back to Huffington and leave the civil world alone.
Obama might have written off 2009, but that doesn't mean America has. If Obama is going to run up $2 trillion deficits, the American people are going to expect results, or what is the point? Obama made extravagant promises and he will be expected to deliver on them or be held accountable.
Obama may have won convincingly but it's worth noting that only 6 of the 25 presidential elections in the last 100 years were closer than Obama-McCain (Truman over Dewey, Kennedy over Nixon, Nixon over Humphrey, Carter over Ford, and both Bush victories). Two other "big lies", unsupported by the facts, that Obama supporters use to claim a mandate: Obama raised his money from small-dollar donors (higher percentage from big donors than McCain, Obama won because he mobilized new voters (Obama drew fewer votes in PA, OH, and FL than Kerry, who lost those states).
My daddy is better than yours.
Your daddy eats eggplant.
Your daddy takes viagra.
Grow up children and go back to the Yahoo discussion groups.
Obama did win... Plurality of ELECTORAL VOTES takes it. His atitude, if mirrored correctly is simply Harvard lawyer arrogance or maybe just lawyer arrogance.
We let you run free in your cage there, but you are making a mess here, and we decent folk would like to be left alone.
Many of you seem to focus on attributing ALL of our problems on the last 8 years. Our problems go much deeper and longer than that. And all of our problems are certainly not just attributable to a president. WE are to blame. Rampant consumerism. Greed. Me first mentality. And don't forget, WE voted in these scoundrels in Washington on BOTH sides of the aisle. And if you are narrow minded enough to blame Bush only, remember the Do Nothing Democratic Congress he has had to work with. Pelosi? Reid? Frank? Dodd? No wonder our country is in trouble. Not getting any better folks.
How pitiable the radical Left is. Poor angry misguided fools. I suppose it is good for them to get out of their cages occasionally so that real Americans can see them for what they are.
When you wish upon a joke (Bush)
Guaranteed you'll end up broke..
He's so stupid why use coke, but he sniffed that tooooo
How in the world is there even a partisan discussion on a WSJ forum? Economic literacy is confined to SOME members of the GOP....There should be some interesting posts on US Weekly for Dems to participate in.
I was just joking when I asked whether there was a link to the Huffington post, but then I searched and there it was! LOL
Coke? Didn't Obama admit to using that?
Rand - the Huffington Post linked to the story, and the infection came storming in. It appears that when a person is as miserable as the radical Left is, the only thing they can do is share it with as many people as they can. Misery loves company.
Why do Republicans always act like the income tax is the only tax we pay? Why in the world would we want to look at only one part of the overall tax system, other than to make this spurious argument that poor and many middle class Americans "don't pay taxes" and shouldn't get any help during this terrible economic downturn. Most Americans pay far more in payroll and other federal, state and local taxes than income taxes.
Huh - you'll notice that what's good for the goose is not always good for the gander as far as the liberals go. For proof, just wait until a conservative nominee for Treasury Secretary in the future is found to be a tax cheat....the libs will scream and howl and shoot down the nomination.
what an ego this so-called president has. what happened to his bipartisanship . . . I guess as long as it's HIS party, it's bipartisan. this will be a long four years with lots of liberal damage to clean up. what a joke
Wrong drug buddy + i don't think Bush had that many brain cells to spare
Is it worth noting that jokes and quips aside, there were in fact Republicans at the table?
"I won." Is this really the change we can believe in? Obama is setting himself up to be a one-term president. Did he and his party learn nothing from their defeat in 1994?
Blinders on...... you need to find a way to get down in the trenches and truly understand the social class that gets the earned income tax credit. I have and I truly believe that the majority of those getting this credit don't deserve it. We're not talking about down on their luck folks..we're talking about lazy, sorry folks that scheme hard to get this free money. And it happens in good times and not just this "terrible economic downturn". You heart is in the right place but many of the one's you seek to assist, are not worthy of our charity.
I agree with Brian - a "tax cut" that gives you more money from the government than you paid in taxes is not a tax cut - it's welfare. SS and Medicare are not refundable taxes. Real estate & sales taxes are state not federal taxes and should be handled at that level. I get so tired of people who pay a very little percent of their income in taxes crying for the government to take more from people who earn more and give it to them - that is the basis for socialism.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury." So "I won" Obama is going lead us further into recession and entitlement welfare to the ruin of us all.
Wow, those cretins leave you feeling dirty, like they rushed in, defecated and vomited all over the room, and left. Poor fools!
365 to 173 is a bit more than a plurality. But maybe math isn't your strong suit. My point is that 2010 is far to quick for anyone to think that American's will lose patience with Obama. American's aren't morons and they know this disaster was 8 years in the making. And why is the Right so preoccupied with deficits when Bush ran up over 4 trillion of them in 8 years. Unless republicans can come up with something else besides tax cuts (which obama is coopting), the country will have no choice but to elect more Dems. Even an event such as trying stem cells on paraplegics makes Obama look more tolerant and smart even though it would have happened under Bush. America is becoming more secular and that works against a party that hangs it hat on everybody being part of the religious right.
Even the Clinton's would not say that . . . Clinton's were the slimiest bunch of crooks until NOW . . . .
So we should cut the charade that Social Security and Medicare taxes are for services rendered, we all pay roughly the same amount in within a limit and receive the same services/benefits in return. If nothing else, as a compromise the Republicans should demand FICA and Medicare withholdings be merged into a single income tax line item if they really are one in the same. That way they can be exposed as the welfare programs they'll become once this shell game of all payroll taxes being equal is put in place. Just make them one line item into the one Treasury department pot too.
appalled - Obama is going to run up $2 trillion in debt his first year alone! And you complained about Bush? Jeez! Obama won with 52% of the vote and behavior such as this isn't going to make the other 48% support him, or all of the 52% stay with him. Oh, and Obama isn't pushing tax cuts, he's pushing welfare.
Glad you guys care so much about all of this - Bush is back on the ranch kicking shrubs. He won't be around to clean up his trail of garbage.
Or his trillion dollar deficit.
appalled... why can't you quit bashing religous folks? Do we scare you and your atheist friends. We don't mean to. God loves you but your sure make it hard.
Rand is Right,
In which part of the GOP does Warren Buffet reside? What's that you say? One of the most brilliant economic minds of our lifetime is a bleeding heart liberal? I gusess economic literacy is confined only to those who study and practice it, right? Right?
No, it's Obama's $2 trillion deficit.
I'm all for stepping on the necks of the Republicans ... and increasing the pressure as much as it needs to be increased.
The memo has gone out on Republican circles, starting with Rush Limbaugh wishing for Obama to fail, to obstruct the Obama administration.
Your story has is simply is an aberration of taking a phrase out context. I believe what Obama said was," I won…" yes, followed by "a platform that included and stimulus package that has both Tax Cuts and Spending."
how quickly everybody forgets W's small victory in 2004 and the press conference he called just to say ' i have political capital i now intend to spend.' this was an offhanded comment in a committee meeting. The republicans and fox news have been bellowing nonstop about this guy's failures, but in a democratic society his policy rules. His statement is clearly a response to the obstructionist republicans who still think its 1995. It's not. They had 6.5 years to do something with their majorities, and did nothing, and were in session less than any other modern congress - that's their fault. Now its Obama's turn to try to actually produce policy not fluff, the comments on here are absurd. Glad to know such intelligent people are reading this paper. Mccain has been on board.
"Besides many of these corporate moguls have behaved badly and should bear much of the responsibility for the housing mess that we find ourselves in."
Even though the politicians were the ones (both parties for several decades) screaming to get people into houses, no matter what it took. The banks simply got creative and did the best they could with Washington breathing down their backs. Up until then, banks had been conservative because they knew how to take risks.
I find if hilarious that Republicans are up in arms. Bush won by 2 measly points and he threw his weight around and blathered on about political capital and then tried to privatize social security to prove he had a mandate even though he didn't.
I'm glad Obama is working with Republicans because let's face it, he doesn't have to. But I do think he should. That said, he did indeed win. They can make suggestions and should. But ultimately at least for now, the democrats will have power.
I hope democrats know that the election was a loan. The country did not just hand us everything to do whatever the hell we want without acknowledging the other half of the country.
When the Republicans had a bare majority, bipartisanship meant doing everything their way. Now that they are in the minority, it means the same thing. You get listened to, guys, and that's been happening. You don't get to dictate what the outcome looks like.
I hope the Republicans serve some cheese with there whine! With all the distorted "logic" I have read in these comments, the echoes of the Bush kid obviously are still ringing from the vast wasteland of the right wing!
Listening to these comments, no wonder we can't get anything positive done. God help us.
Obama is just telling the truth. Americans overwhelmingly voted for Democrats, and if you look outside the South, this number is margin is even wider. At least Republicans are in the room to have a say, I can't remember that being the case for Democrats when the right held both the executive and legislative branches.
The working poor do pay employment, property, and sales taxes. Any tax relief to them will likely be spent and re-enter the economy. Further tax breaks to the upper ranks of income will likely only be saved to rebuild savings.
If republicans want to be listened to they should find candidates and a platform that appeals to the majority of the populace. Until then, they will likely have a diminished voice.
Buh bye, GOP. Take a long walk in the wilderness.
Republicans wanted to have beer with Bush, and be hockey moms with Palin. Then when the serious stuff happens, they blame it all on the Dems. There are good, intelligent Republicans out there, but you lot don't vote them in during your primaries. You got what you deserved.
This is for all you right wingers that seem to have such short memories.
Your great President George Bush on his win in the 2004 election and please note he won by 3.5 million and Obama by 9 million.
"I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush told reporters. "It is my style."
"When you win, there is ... a feeling that the people have spoken and embraced your point of view," Bush said. "And that's what I intend to tell Congress, that I made it clear what I intend to do as the president; now let's work."
It is amazing to see that Mr. Obama and his fellow democrats are bent upon destroying the fundamentals of the capitalistic system and moving towards socialism. I came to this great country 35 years ago with nothing in my pocket but a dream of working in a great nation. Now I own multiple manufacturing companies employing over 150 employees and paying top manufacturing wages and benefits. This could not have been even dreamed of in the socialist country I came from. Mr. Obama, please do not kill the Golden Goose which is this capitalistic system. Give incentives to people to create good jobs, take risks, and keep the fruits of their risk taking. Redistributing the wealth has been tried many times in history including the favorite of many in your party the old Soviet Union- Please do not try this again.
Whew! Listening to most of this crap is hilarious. It proves that most americans are olivious! Obama did win presidency, and now our government is going to hang by a thread! The GOP Party will never be a diminished voice! I wish that the people who make these comments would really go back and read Obama's plan and maybe they will understand that it WON"T work!
Obama at the end of the day is "The Decider"!
I find it interesting that Obama has expressed his willingness to negotiate with anti-American foriegn governments and splinter groups, but he is unwilling to negotaite with Republican members of congress who have been elected to office and represent US constituencies. Should be an interesting 4 years
Obama got 53% of the vote, but has an 83% approval rating. Still the GOP congress has more input than they did with Bush. It's up to them to see if they want to contribute to the restoration of the country.
35 years ago? Hey wasn't there a Dem running the show then too? Seems they bring you good luck Entrepreneur...
Oh yeah, lots of bravado and chest-pounding now. We'll see if they change their tune after it becomes clear that "tax cuts for more people who DON'T pay taxes" and "make-work stimulus plans" fail miserably at actually stimulating the economy, and they sheepishly rediscover the basic principles of Reaganomics (which were also successfully applied earlier by John Kennedy!).
THE DECIDER HAS SPOKEN!! (tee hee)
when bush was elected he said he had political capital and that he intended to use it. Republican's were in favor of this and got tax cuts, ricidulous spending, and a war. Suddenly republicans are learning how the other half lived for 8 years.
Even when Bush was making bad decisions republican's said, you have to support him, his people elected him president. To you, my friends, I asy, Obama is the president.
53-46 is a strong mandate. Deal with GOOPers.
Hey BobbyA think about it this way...at least his renovations @ the WH didn't include a 4 legged toilet!
Our country is falling apart and you idiots are taking sides about two words and pluralities? It's time to
' "lead, follow, or get out of the way". "Obamacrats","Clintons,again. Get a life!
I personally have found this exchange amusing...but in the end I hope the bickering can be overcome...I have friends who are getting laid off and it is humbling...So lets fix it don't blame the South, religion, Pelosi, just FIX IT for a change The blame game is old.
This is hilarious. You know who formulated and promoted the concept of a "negative income tax" for low-income people?
Milton Friedman.
~ Capitalism and Freedom (1962)
(Chapter xii)
You know who was the only US President to propose such a plan?
Richard Nixon
~ Family Assistance Plan
So Obama is bullying his detractors? Why is anyone surprised? This man does NOT represent ME, his views do NOT reflect mine and (to paraphrase Don Henley in his Reagan attack) was NOT elected king. HE needs to learn to play well with others. If republicans don't stand up to democrat bullies, they will soon disappear.
"It proves that most americans are olivious!" Obviously referring to us supporters of Obama…..HELLO! It's called a majority!
"The GOP Party will never be a diminished voice! " HELLO! Again. It's called free speech!
"Comment by Proud Republican!" Still proud after the last eight years? Somewhat explains how the little Bush kid got to sit at the big boy's table twice!
Nobody is arguing with the need to "fix it." The question is how. Pouring public money into bad banks and bad businesses does not instill confidence. Neither does taking money from earners and giving it to non-earners. If the GOP doesn't get a backbone, we're in for 15 years of misery.
"I won??" Last time I checked, the presidency was not a dictatorship. Hundreds of representatives, senators and Supreme Court justices also "won". It's a little early in the game to be sounding so arrogant.
Obama possesses the dangerous combination of ignorance and arrogance. So we borrowed too much as consumers and his answer is to borrow the country into bankruptcy. He and the rest of the corrupt democrats in congress do not have an unlimited amount of time. I suspect they will be their own worst enemy.
It seems that all of the Obama lovers think that just because 52% of the people vote for someone, they have the ability to change basic economic laws. Just because Obama won the election does not make socialism work. No matter how you spin "Tax Credits" for those who do not pay income taxes doesn't matter. The last time I checked, the federal government doesn't assess property or sales taxes, so to "rebate" something for those is an absolute joke. As far as Social Security and Medicare go, it's a big Ponzi scheme anyway, but giving people back the money they pay in just makes it welfare at retirement age.
Lastly, anyone who thinks the current mess is a result of free-markets is an absolute moron. Government caused all of it through regulation and intervention.
I am surprised that so many people were fooled by Obama. He has the me personality and the "I won" comment was predictable. I had the manchild, who loves to bask in the idolization from crowds, pegged a long time ago. He has the King complex.
Now we are stuck with the Big government rule thats coming down on us. With all this stimulus spending, each family now owes $6,000. a year in taxes.
He's a jerk.
Pres Barack Obama: "I Won"
Sen Jon Kyl: "I Filibuster"
The only reason this is an issue is because the WSJ is making it an issue...gee...imagine that, partisan politics from the WSJ.
the context of "I won" was policy related (as in, "the American people agree with me, we've had this debate, it's over.")
This isn't another example of the arrogance that has characterized the Bush Regime. This is someone who actually cares about governing more than he cares about winning elections. A breath of fresh air after listening to W's rhetoric for too damn long...
Heil Obama! His way or the highway.
"This isn't another example of the arrogance that has characterized the Bush Regime"
Dear Anonymous
Bush is gone. The last I checked he was a private citizen. So you liberals either fix the problems you were elected to fix, or shut up.
It's all par for the course: As expected. I have to say, this part of Obama's recovery plan is a doozy (Socialism is certainly on it's way):
Item 5 under LOWER HEALTHCARE COSTS
Training Primary Care Providers: $600 million to address shortages and prepare our country for universal healthcare by training primary healthcare providers including doctors, dentists, and nurses as well as helping pay medical school expenses for students who agree to practice in underserved communities through the National Health Service Corps.
Like a lot my friends who supported Obama. I believe he is annointed and will bring about miracles. You republicans just wait and see. He didn't just win, he was annointed. Stop hatin
Obama is an arrogant jerk in love with the sound of his own voice. His personality is to be feared.
The fact is that the earned income credit was intended to reimburse the social security and medicare tax to those who do not pay income tax (aka 'the poor'). So saying that it BO's plan isn't redistribution is a farce.
In the republican administration - bailout of banks is not welfare, but cutting the tax for the poor is. The rich vote by their dollars, the poor by their numbers. Numbers defeated the $s this time around.
It's about time the Republicans got the message that they need a new message
Obama's hubris reminds me of the famous quotation of Henry Clay: "I'd rather be right than president."
Maybe the Republicans did not get the memo. Their ideology did not win at the polls.
However, while the President need not remind some of the ideologues that he has a job to do, one that he was hired to do by the people on Nv 4.
However, democrats have a flawed view on taxes and what the bailout should look like. Republicans are hardly better.
The solution must lie somewhere in the middle. Yes, people who pay any tax should get some relief, and a plan to give some payroll tax holiday (or reduction) is a very good idea. But Republicans must be willing to face the consequences of such plans. The military budget has to be reduced, substantially. Its not just entitlement spending that has to go down.
Simon & Garfunkel had it right: "... a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest..."
The Repubs are about to dip below 40 Senate seats in 2010, especially since people like Kyl and Cornyn want to adhere to the same failed principles that 53% of the conutnry have completely rejected - and are not about to turn around and embrace.
Say Goodnight, the failed Reagan-experiment has finally crashed! Amen.
"Obama's hubris reminds me of the famous quotation of Henry Clay: "I'd rather be right than president.""
I'm not sure what to make of this. Obama IS president, and when was Henry Clay ever right?
You spoke it as it is and nothing else, he is annointed,
To you Believer, added to that the word's of God, the rich get richer, the poor get pooer. No more we have HIS help.
The question is not whether ideologically we call it "tax cut" or "welfare", but rather, whether such a measurement will stimulate economy.
I don't think the people use the extra money to buy food will stimulate economy. Do you?
"Obama's hubris reminds me of the famous quotation of Henry Clay: "I'd rather be right than president.""
The last I looked he was both "right" and "President."
Thank God we have a smart person as President!
"use the extra money to buy food"
Did you even hear what you just said?
You people who are making excuses for the Republicans have no idea what you are talking about. I worked in the Senate during the years when Bush was in the White House and the Republicans controlled Congress and let me tell you, they ran roughshod over the Democrats and never included them in anything. Elections have consequences--Obama won the presidency and the Dems regained control of both houses of Congress. At the end of the day, while they may compromise on some things with the Republicans, the Dems now have a chance to do things their way, which can't possibly be any worse than the last eight years under Republican rule.
You know what they say about Karma...
...wackos. They are. Drop trow in a public restroom...Senatorial privilege. Diddle Senate pages...Republican 'education'...Start and illegal and immoral war...'I AM the Decider' I could go on but...
Looting the Treasury as he hit the door really did these morans in.
As far as I am concerned Obama should have picked up his idiot Rethug 'critic' and chucked him out of the meeting room.
And not bothered to open the door first.
All you Republicans and fellow travelers keep on digging the hole when the citizenry find out, later this year, just how their retirement and assets have been stolen we progressives will have plenty of help turning that hole....
...into your grave.
A child says "I won;" the two-word statement screams immaturity. Not what I believe most Americans really want in their President.
Fifty-two per cent, give or take, had been conditioned by the media to hate Bush, and most of that 52% probably would have supported anyone who ran on the Democratic ticket.
Oh, I been waiting a long time to say it, but "you lost, get over it!"
Obama is right.
I won! That sounds like something my ten year old son would say, is this the way Obama wants every American to count? Really! I think Americans should stand-up and make our voices be heard. Start with your state senators and let then know just how much support you will have for them if they vote for unsound tax increases.
Hmmmm, why does 'I've got some political capitol and I aim to spend it.' come to mind....
I guess the GOP and their supporters have a short memory.
Obama is right - he's trying to be as bi-partisan as possible but if you cant take the message the American public sent you... I guess you'll just have to be force fed it.
"I think Americans should stand-up and make our voices be heard."
Yeah, like, with an ELECTION or something.
Oh Boo Hoo. You Republicans were the first one to stand up and shout that George Bush could not be spoken out against and like it or not the current situation with the economy and foreign affairs happened on your precious watch.
Obama touted breaking down political barriers all throughout his campaign, but now we're seeing this type of flamboyant smugness? I suppose Barack is just another US politician...
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All the left has been doing non-stop for the last eight years is attacking Bush. Bush disappointed me by being far too liberal, but the Obama presidency will be a disaster and saying "I won" is childish, arrogant and vulgar.
"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."
—GWB to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
Our nation was founded as a REPUBLIC not a DEMOCRACY. Our forefathers knew that all Democracies end in Dictatorship.
When our representative form of government gave broad sweeping powers to the Secretary of the Treasury we became a Democracy. It was a treasonous act. All congress persons who allowed this bailout to occur are traitors the the American people.
Stand up and join the Revolution to overthrow this tyrannical government!! If you do not stop it now, it will become a dictatorsip.
Amass the army NOW! http://www.larrynichols.com/ listen live!
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Elections have consequences.
I've got political capital and I'm going to spend it.
You're either with us or against us.
You rightees are so hypocritical. We are in a time of crisis. Now is the time to get behind the president. Isn't that what you said say on 9/12/01? And that was when your president, W, just let us get attacked by terrorists.
That's right he won.
President Obama.
Get used to it.
The people won.
The rich and privileged lost.
The rich and privileged got greedy and trashed our country (see Katrina, Iraq, biggest deficits in history, largest stock market crash and economic downturn since great depression).
And now THE GOVERNMENT has to bail them out.
Tax cuts for the rich got us in this mess.
Tax the rich. They have all the money. They stole it (see Iraq, hedge funds, credit default swaps, unsecured debt obligations, junk mortgage backed securities.
Enough of Rethuglican obstructionism. The country has suffered enough after 8 years of Republican plundering. Americans have rejected republican policies. What part of this does the rethuglicans not understand or do they need to lose even more in 2010 to become so irrelevant?
Its not like Bush was ever interested in discussion with the other party....
Nobody has a mandate. But at some point you have to move on with the debate and save the economy already.
Wake up rich people, you're getting taxed sooner or later.
Obama has done more to reach across the aisle in three days than Bush did in eight years. Three GOP cabinet members DOD, DOT and National Security Advisor all Republicans. Obama offered tax cuts against the base of his party to pass the stimulus with a bipartisan majority. Obama picked mostly centrists in his cabinet.
All the Republicans care about is that he said "I won".
What a bunch of sore losers. This country had it's greatest moments when we put our differences aside and work together as American citizens. But so many on the far right and far left don't even remember when government worked for the people and not for the party ideology. Now Obama wants to change that and all we get from both sides is petty bickering.
Elections have consequences.
Wait, R's are you saying that in sum, people that voted for Obama are mostly black, stupid, have lower incomes because they're lazy and want welfare checks so that they can pay for abortions and junk at Wal-Mart?
You selfish bunch of racist jerks
I'm not happy that Obama is caving in and offering tax cuts at all. They are NOT the solution.
Tax people less, they save. Especially if they think they might lose their job etc.
We need to get people spending- which means creating jobs with government investment- the Democrats may be making a massive error here if they don't go for a stimulus that is too small and doesn't help.
"I won" - so we'll do it my way. That doesn't sounds like bipartisanship to me. Real bipartisanship will require the final plan to have substantial input from both sides, and "both sides" includes Republicans. Otherwise, all candidate Obama's talk of a post partisan America will be seen as just the empty rhetoric needed to draw the votes of Independents.
Well, they're breathing in corporate air pollution.
I would like to point out to Mr. Obama that people who don't pay income tax are also NOT paying property taxes. If you don't earn enough to pay income tax, then you don't earn enough to own a home. If you don't own a home, then you're not paying property taxes . . . . Oh, wait, I forgot about Barney Frank Factor and the "Fannie & Freddie Factor." Silly me for assuming that the party that doesn't believe in personal financial accountability would still believe in national fiscal responsibility. My bad.
Obama won; the Democrats won; the American people WON!
Americans don't want bipartisanship. Americans want out of this mess, and they want to be as far away from Bush's policies as possible. We don't care whose idea it is or who goes along with it.
Unfortunately, the Republicans are more interested in trying to keep Obama from fixing things because it might hurt them in the 2010 elections. They've said exactly that. "Bipartisanship" means "letting the GOP whine and obstruct."
Obama's language in this instance is foolish. History cries out against it: "Respice post te. Hominem te esse memento." To the detriment of us all, George W. Bush learned this lesson himself, but too late.
If he called his "tax cut" plan what it actually is: welfare than he probably wouldn't have had won. How can he claim his victory as justification for liberal policies when he won with conservative rhetoric? Was he screaming welfare for the poor? His stimulus package is a piece of garbage and may cause a depression.
Those who don't own a home still pay property tax - but indirectly. Usually, landlords wouldn't be able to make a profit unless they pass the property tax onto their tenants. And who pays the majority of sales tax in this country (gas, mobile phone etc.)?
If you don't pay federal income taxes you shouldn't have the right to vote in federal elections. All U.S. citizens except the totally disabled should be paying their fair share of federal taxes. It is time we imported a tax similar to the VAT along with our Perrier water.
Sounds like Chicago style politics to me. Jab with your elbow if your opponents disagree with you. Yes Obama did win; however we do not have to agree with his rhetoric. It is all about power and show for him. Big hat and no cattle. By the way Cynicor Americans do want bipartisanship and it was your Boys that help create this mess not President George W. Bush. Thank God for his service and for keeping this country safe. Why are people so hell bent on wanting welfare and not wanting to take care of themselves.
The "I Won" seems like the dance they do in the end zone, which sometimes draws a penalty. I just hope we all survive the next 4 years.
It is the wealthy corporations that do not pay their fair share of taxes. Too many loopholes that need to be sealed. They should be taxed by the earnings they announce to their shareholders, which is always less than what they report for taxes. They should not be allowed to hide their overseas income, and they should not get tax incentives for creating massive debts.
"which is always less than what they report for taxes"
Typo: More, not less.
"Americans do want bipartisanship" - no, we would rather have progress.
"it was your Boys that help create this mess not President George W. Bush" - Let me guess. It was all Clinton's fault until sometime in late Nov when it magically flipped to be Obama's fault, right? Bush actually was so weak as to have no effect on the economy for eight years?
"Thank God for his service and for keeping this country safe." - Absolutely. Other than the 3000 dead on 9/11, the unsolved anthrax mailings, the 4200 dead and many thousands wounded in Iraq, all those who have died to tainted food thanks to non-enforcement by the FDA, etc., he's kept us more or less as safe as previous presidents.
Context, please. Obama was pointing out that the argument Kyl was making was similar to what McCain made in the general election.
It's just awful to have a Democrat leader who won't just roll over on command, doesn't it?
Republicans, calm down. If you look at the NY Times coverage of this same story, they are far more specific about the tax cut. Those who are too poor, and do not earn enough to pay income tax, would get a discount on Social Security tax, which they do pay, as this article notes, along with Medicare, property, and sales tax. See:
Seems like you guys were all ready to give outrageous tax cuts to the wealthy bankers who got us into this mess, so that we desperately need a stimulus. But when it comes to rather sensible measures to relieve the tax burdens on middle and lower income Americans you guys call it "welfare". Where was the GOP's voice when we were giving out corporate welfare to the tune of billions?
Reading the responses to this article, I can't imagine why it's so hard to get anything done in this country...
Republican policies have destroyed the banking and auto industries, sent the economy into free-fall, turned budget surpluses into massive deficits, kept us from taking any action on energy independence or climate change, failed to prevent the 9/11 attacks and gotten us embroiled in two wars, both of which we are losing due to Republican military strategy.
The country is worse off in every conceivable way than it was when Clinton left office. With that record of epic Republican failure, you wingnuts should be glad that the grown-ups are now in charge.
The GOP congress members need to find NEW ideas to bring to the table, not the same economic points they used in their campaigns during the 2008 election cycle. They lost. They need to refresh their economic platform. Trickle down is dead. The country needs every effective idea out there focused on small businesses and middle class. Key word: effective. The GOP needs new ideas. They can do it if they try. And we will all be benefit.
Eight years of Republicanism got us into this mess.
It's good to hear that Obama has a spine. I was afraid that he was going to roll over and give the Republicans the victory that they didn't win at the polls. Some people consider an olive branch a sign of weakness. But take heart folks, if he doesn't cave to the Republicans then he probably won't cave to the Iranians or the North Koreans either.
Do you all hate the CEOs and presidents of your companies this much? Those of you who run companies -- are you hated this much? This is a lot of vitriol for a man who is in charge and who has only held the position for 5 days.
He did win, and we have to let him do his job to the best of his ability. If we don't like it, we can fire him in 4 years.
At the end of the day, Pres. Obama is accountable for the paths he takes, so he's going to do what he thinks best for the country, and he will take the hit if it doesn't work. It's one thing to disagree with his choices, but are the histrionics in these comments really necessary?
He is a extremely smart, well-educated and intelligent man (a rarity in this country, truth be told) -- why are you all acting like paranoid little girls?
Who cares, stupid article, stupid issue.
CNBC... has just anounced (released the true identity findings) on who is the real "OZ" Bloger on the WSJ Blog Site that has caused so manny people to discard their trust in thier markets and government to turn to him for advice and counsel!
Sources close to the matter say that he has been in hidding over at Barrons for years and his real name will come out in his article tomorrow on how to save the US Economy and US Tax Payer!
Indeed, what arrogance of Barry to believe that 53% is a mandate. It's almost like the incorrigible petulance of of today's "conservatives" who don't yet realize that the current credit crisis is simply not possible in their economic models. Like Barry's mandate, what we should all do is pretend that there is no credit crisis, trade deficits are inconsequential, and all tax cuts magically impute to "private investment" by nature of academic accounting equations. Let us all send Barry and the Obamacrats a strong message by standing by our thoroughly falsified "principles" even though we hardly understand them ourselves, and resolve to compensate for any dearth of evidence-based argument with an intensifying display of nihilism, vengeance, wrath, and other infantile forms of sniveling.
Reps lost for a reason, they failed to perform.
"I won" was not a boast but a reminder that reps ideological approach to governing was rejected soundly on every level in the last elections.
Reps were invited aboard to help fix the mess they created. Aftere being punished for 105 filibusters, obstruction is no longer acceptable
"shamus100", how many filibusters did Democrats use last time they were the minority?
Why is obstructionism only acceptable when your side is the minority?
And how on EARTH do you believe that what we've seen in recent history remotely coincides with the ideals of classical Republicans?
Republicans may have held slim majorities recently, but they got next to nothing done due to... wait for it... Democratic obstructionism!
The policies that led to our problems are more Democratic than Republican. Obama saying so does not make it otherwise.
Why don't you actually look at what each side stands for and why, and do an honest analysis instead of repeating campaign rhetoric?
"I like the GOP's plan. if you make over $10,000 a year then you will get $500 tax break from either plan. i make around if you make 38,000 you should get about a $1,700 tax break. That seems to be targeted directly to the midle class. Go GOP!"
-from 23 yr Obama supporter
Comment by Jake - January 23, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Thankyou so much for feeding into the saying "liberal idiots." You're saying this is a bad idea why? Because the tax cuts on the people who make $38,000 are 1700 dollars, compared to only 500 for the person making $10,000? Guess what, the person making $10,000 is only paying annual taxes of about $1,099. a 1700 dollar rebate would exceed what he pays anyways. $500 out of $10,000 is still a higher percentage rate than 1700 out of 38,000.
That comment showed the world what Obama is all about as he is now showing his true colors - he is an arrogant, delusional socialist and unfortunately too many people voted for him because of race and not what he stood for. We will all be paying for it now. the biggest affirmative action move in the history of the US may very well be our downfall.
What is the point of having an election when every decision can be overturned by the opposition? The US could save huge amounts of money by having each senator and congressman just vote independently on every issue, with the majority vote winning. BTW, the Dems. did win and by doing so the majority of American people sent a message to the GOP - you stink! PS: When you win, you win. Why a party that has lost still maintains that it has a mandate to push its own agenda, etc. and can issue conditions on which a bill can be passed amazes me. PPS: Dropping names like socialism is a cowards way of describing what needs to be done in a compassionate society - democratic or otherwise. Ok, don't provide a safety net for the poor or less privileged and see how that regime lasts in the US.
Using the word socialism is not cowardly...sending a check to someone who does not pay taxes is socialism. Why should my hard earned money go to someone who refuses to get off their couch and get a job? Barack wants to "spread the wealth". Sounds a lot like socialism to me.
That was really very generous of Obama. If I were president and asked why I am not including GOP ideas in my economic plans, I would say:
a) Because, genius, those "ideas" got us INTO this mess (duh), and
b) Because the American people have soundly rejected those "ideas". Remember the grand delusions from just a few years ago, of a perpetual, even fillibuster-proof, GOP majority, while now your party is pathetically clinging to a pretense of relevance.
Well, I guess that's why Obama, not me, is now president!
I know that Republicans don't think that people whose income is low, but work just as hard as those who earn more money, should get a break.
Now Obama listened totally to what the Republicans had to say and his conclusion is that their ideas will not pass muster in our current democracy. That is why he won, time for Republicans to start entering the 21st century and realize if people work hard then 'yes' they deserve a break.
Ruth Beazer
Dear Marilyn,
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts."
— Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Likewise we are NOT entitled to our own definitions.
Socialism is not "sending a check to someone who does not pay taxes"
Socialism is "a political theory advocating state ownership of industry". If your ideas are valid, against Social Security, unemployment, safety nets, or a negative income tax (first proposed by the Nobel Prize winning father of conservative economics, Milton Friedman), then I challenge you to defend them rather than throwing labels at them. If you need to throw labels, and especially if those labels are factually incorrect, surely that says something about your ideas.
Calalyzer, socialism also refers to the fair distribution of wealth, that is also one of it's economic principles, or were you forgetting that. I would rather live in a society where I can make as much money as I can based on my skills that I worked hard to obtain, rather than have to spread it equally among those that are less skilled due to their own decisions.
My, such sour grapes. Obama has extended more courtesy to Bush and GOP than anyone could ask for but, yes, he won't let GOP stall the stimulus or weigh us down w/ economic theories rejected by history and voters. That's not arrogance; it's called leadership.
It makes much more sense to cut payroll taxes than for the IRS to collect the taxes and then turn around and send money back. But -- then Nancy and Harry and their minions couldn't take part of it first. Right? But, the efficiency and a more immediate stimulus to the economy makes sense so it will never happen. Besides, Obama promised all of the people who do not pay taxes that he'd give them a check so of course he has to live up to (at least some of them) his promise. Sounds like he bought some votes?
I think that there was MUCH more courtesy from Bush to Obama. It was said to be the smoothest transition. And, economic theories from the Great Depression historically proved that his "stimulus" won't work.
From reading some of the comments, one would think that that the Dems fought Bush tooth and nail every step of the way. My memory is different: when the GOP was in the majority, the Dems were essentially shut out of the governing process, and when they were in the majority they rolled over (there wasn't that much difference between the 109th Congress and the 110th). If someone can provide a substantive instance where the Dems in Congress showed some backbone during the last 8 years, please do so. I'd hate to have been incorrectly dismissing Reid and Pelosi as gutless wimps.
...with the exception of judges. The Dems did try to resist some of Bush's more egregious judge choices, which brought the threat of the nuclear option (changing the Senate rules regarding filibusters, to remove filibusters, ). But I honestly can't think of anything else where the Dems didn't roll over except in the most superficial and meaningless way.
For all of those who feel that our current economic crisis is due to the last 8 years only, please do your homework and do not simply listen to the press. Clinton was the one who pushed home ownership for everyone and pressed banks to make sure all received mortgages (not only those who could afford them). I am not saying that the Bush Admin. is not partially to blame, but if we are really going to be honest and fair, we have to say the last 12 years!! And please don't forget that our dear President Obama sued banks for not giving mortgate loans to subprime borrowers. As I said, please do your homework!!! And please stop saying the last 8 years!!!!!
Welcome to the Obama-nation!
Yeah Obama won, the American public lost We are doomed , can you actually believe this moron is President ? This is how bad things are in the United States, what a disgrace!
And don't play the race card either your idiot libs, I am neither a Democrat or Republican !
You morons who voted for this fool will pay along with the rest of us, unless you're a loser who needs the handout !
Yeah Obama won, the American public lost We are doomed , can you actually believe this moron is President ? This is how bad things are in the United States, what a disgrace!
And don't play the race card either your idiot libs, I am neither a Democrat or Republican !
You morons who voted for this fool will pay along with the rest of us, unless you're a loser who needs the handout !
Obama did win. What is the big deal about getting Repubs to buy into his stimulus plan? They shouldn't. Let Dems do as they can and lets judge on performance results, not Obama's rhetoric.
Obama won 53% of the vote and 63% of eligible Americans voted. That means Obama has the support of 33.5% of eligible voters. Not a majority but he still won. The 66.5% who didn't vote for Obama are still going to speak up now and then.Get used to it.
Yep, this Republican has to admit Obama did win. However, if he enables a bunch of Gitmo and warrantless-wiretapping candidates to fly a 747 into the Empire State building we'll be ready with the tar and feathers, or worse.
As a strong and Loyal Republican for almost 4 decades - my only observation about all of this is that the part is bankrupt of leadership and vision. If they are going to take a stance - they are going to have to figure out how to communicate why the stance makes sense.
I do not wish that Obama fails, but it is not looking very optimistic. If he and the Democratic controlled Congress don't get us out of this economic mess within a year or less. And, Heaven forbid, we have another terrorist attack, they all can forget about getting re-elected for a very long time! I think we need a new party! The Repubs haven't held the line on spending either. But, at least they have been protecting us from terrorism. The economy will crash further beyond what it did in 911 if it happens again.
Gee...according to Republicans when Obama wins by over 7 points its a squeaker but when Prop 8 passes in California by only 4 points it is a "mandate from the people". Make up your mind righties.
To King Obama - Republicans did show the American public who they were during the last 8 years, and just maybe that is why Obama was elected.
When did the strong and manly Republicans become the party of whiners? Poor guys getting picked on by that big bully. I thought that was supposed to be the Democrats...
He's right. His agenda was the one Americans preferred, and the GOP's burn and sell ideology is doing nothing but destroying the country.
He won. Period. Let's get busy.
Well I guess this is a sign of "change" to say "I won"? The Republican's should have reminded the President, they also "won" and represent their constituents in the states they are from. Such a retort sounds like H.S., not Presidential.
I get SS and I get 569.00 a month, My husband a retired CS worker gets his retirement which is less than half of his salary, when he worked. We live on less tha 30,000. a year, I have to pay taxes on 85% of my SS benefits. Why should I support "welfare" handouts? Most people that get this benefit has never worked a day in there life. I worked two jobs and raised 3 children, I never ask for a handout. I worked for every thing we have, as well as my husband. I think the Gov't should make these people pay back every penny, they have gotton in handouts, teach them a trade, make them voluteer, something, anything! They continue to have babies just to get extra money, stop the madness and let them know they can only have 2 kids no more "welfare." Yes, Obama won, but I DID NOT vote for him!
Arrogant narcissist. So much for his bipartisan front.
Get with the program you republican sore-losers!
You Republican's are something else. You should all be ashamed for saddling this country with the worst President in history, not once, but TWICE! Do this country a favor and impose some self-discipline, recognize that you don't know your @sses from your elbows, and sit out all presidential elections from now on.
Obama's "family planning"/abortion agenda is a long term solution to control population.
MJ & Fallin,
Guess what? Us Republicans are here to stay: considering most of us pay 95% of the taxes, YOU'RE RIGHT we are something else: RESPONSIBLE.
Why don't you both get a second job, move out of the trailer, and stop looking for handouts from Nancy and Harry. Go check out the help wanted section for employment and stop wasting our time with your inane "political" comments. Go on--shoo!
Hey everyone! I'm a proud and elite Republican. I work harder and longer than all those loser Democrats. I never show up to work late and I pay 95% of this country's taxes.
the real issue is not one's party affilitaion, there are good and bad on both sides...it's one of personal responsibility and keeping your promises...if you sign a contract to borrow money for a home, or car etc.,then you are obligated to pay it back...when i was a kid, there were no charge cards, you actually have to have cash in your hand or money in a checking account and have a signature that people could depend on if you wanted to purchase anything of value...there was no such thing as deficit spending, and secondly, the original intention for the stock market was to "invest" in yourself by investing in americn companies, speculating was considered selfish and counterproductive to the general health of the country...once we take responsibity for own actions, the country will get bette
So why is it that when Bear Stearns, Citigroup, AIG or my local lender enters into contracts to borrow money and couldn't pay it back, the government simply takes care of THEM, but not me? Suppose you place a bet that Citigroup would collapse and it did, but the government then immediately bails them out? Who should be the contractual winner of that bet? In a free market society, when banks take stupid risks by lending money that cannot be repaid, they are solely responsible for their losses.
When the banks took your taxpayer money and paid off your loan with that money, it is equivalent to you already paying it off yourself. Likewise, the only way the American people can pay off all their loans on their end is thru a bailout.
The republicans were in power for 8 years and look what happedned...trickel down economics did not work...give him(Obana) a chance to try something different.
To Proud and Elite American -- get over yourself. I'm fairly certain I make more money in a year than you ever will. I'm just not selfish about it and am willing to pay my fair share. Face it -- Republicans simply cannot govern. You had your chance and look where we are. But take heart, eventually the Dems will clean up Bush's mess and people will start saying, "you know what, things are pretty good, so why don't I elect that guy who looks like me and keeps promising to lower my taxes, so what if that is all he says." Then the Repubs will reclaim the WH, screw things up again as they always do, rinse, wash, repeat.
To Proud American --
You realize that if everyone voted the way you did then you wouldn't have your SS and your husband's retirement (presumably the result of union negotiations)? You should be thanking democrats, not voting against them.
Duh - Go F U C K yourself you A S S hole !!!!!!
To Yes we can --
1) The heads of Bear Stearns, Citigroup and AIG were/are all registered republicans.
2) The original bailout plan -- you remember, the one that apparently did nothing and we are not even entitled to ask where the money went -- lest you forgot, was the brainchild of your republican president.
Comments like "I won" are what lead to all the partisanism which we have now. Thought Obama was going to fix that.
There will be more elections and if the Dems don't do the right thing, they won't be able to win next time. So it is a good idea to listen to everyone and consider their points of view. Maybe it is just fear that things won't work that is hurting our economy.
Obama is showing his inexperience and naivete'.
Yes, he 'won.' So did every single representative. So did one -third of the Senators (none of whom will be facing the voters again until two years AFTER Obama will next be facing them.
Every elected official in Washington DC comes out of this last election believing that they too have a mandate to govern.
Only someone with his inexperience would spend his political capital so quickly, and only a fool would say "I won" to a crowd of people who also won, or they wouldn't be there.
He doesn't need to worry about lack of bipartisan support. His own party is going to eat him alive - just like they did the last dem President who was so incredibly naive, Jimmy Carter. He too had majorities in both houses of Congress. It didn't help.
Well here we go. So much for working together. Everyone get ready for a dictator for four years. I cant wait to see what else is going to happen.
"I won" What a childish comment.
To all of the Bush bashers:
Bush was not a republican. He was a neocon.
Necon = social conservative, big government & big spending.
Republican = fiscally conservative, smaller govt, less taxes, socially leans conservative, but generally wants the govt of out people's lives
The only political and idealogical differences between Bush & Obama is that Obama is socially liberal and wants even bigger govt and more taxes and spending.
I "HOPE" America will wake up and realize that govt is the problem, not the solution before we go bankrupt and before the entitlements and the notion that the govt will take care of everyone zaps the will to work and to take care of ones self for the average American.
YAY! OBAMA DID WIN..with a notable margin nonetheless, yet here the retardicans are trying to selfreassure themselves it was a fluke . Rather than uhm say examining your old tired worn out politics of hate.? is their ideaology that lost. gop i do not agree with your ideas , nor do i want you running my life get over yourselves..
Obama is willing to work with Repubs, but he's not going to be bullied by them, that's why he reminded them he won. Funny the repukes didn't mind when Bush would proclaim that he was "the decider".
@"Most Americans pay far more in payroll and other federal, state and local taxes than income taxes.Comment by Blinders on - January 23, 2009 at 5:17 pm "
So because you pay for local schools, roads, your grandmothers Social Security and Medicare, you should not have to pay anything toward the national defense and national parks ???
(I sure fail to follow the Libs logic re: paying Fed Income taxes.)
Republican/Democrat your all a bunch of idiots.
Thanks, pricklydave
one more thing.....
Bush sucked
Mccain sucked
Obama sucks
all of you are worthless sheep
Hate to say this, but some have to be reminded who won!
The GOP appear to confuse Obama's interest in bipartisanhip to some 50/50 partnership. Not going to happen!
We elected Obama to lead because we preferred his ideas. Otherwise, why have an election?
I am surprised to see my Republician friends talk about spending, tax cuts and principles. Where were all of these people during Bush era?
These people need to understand that RegaNomics is dead, markets cannot take care of themseleves and we have to pay for services like schools, bridges, etc.
"In the end we're all dead" - can't remember where i heard this
Look, no matter what the GOP does, when the economy recovers it is going to be St Obama's good deeds that saved us all from the Evil Bush's imminent Depression.
If things get worse/take longer than expected to recover and the GOP collaborated with/won concessions from Obama/Pelosi/Reid to get bipartisan agreement on key points and then things go south, the GOP will take all the blame (ie, if we had done it Obama's way, everything would be perfect now, but we listened to the evil, greedy republicans so things still suck).
Obama and the Dems won. If the GOP have any political savvy, they'll put up a principled alternative, get voted down and then let Obama run things the way he wants, get the credit for what works and make it as hard as possible for MSNBC to credibly blame the GOP.
"Our country is divided and full of hate and meanness. "
This has been a direct result of the New Left of the 1960s and their politics of personal destruction. All the Democrat are followers of New Left politics. They call their political opponents 'evil' and consider them the enemies rather than merely people with different opinions.
Note how the Congressional bills are actually 100% Democrat bills with zero Republican input. House vote was on party lines.
Obama has unmasked himself. He's a partisan like all the other liberal Democrats. The talks with Republicans are a charade designed to hook them into taking the fall for bad results of these Democrat boondoggle bills that will do nothing to help the economy.
"He did win, and we have to let him do his job to the best of his ability."
If Obama cant take the heat of honest criticism, he shouldnt have run for a President. The man has thin skin, and his koolaid drinkin' followers need to knock off the suppression of dissent of this sub-par President.
They sound like Hitlers brownshirts/Mao Little Red Book wavers, etc.
Dissent - more patriotic than ever!
". I'm fairly certain I make more money in a year than you ever will. I'm just not selfish about it and am willing to pay my fair share."
Really... then give it to charity and quit dragging other people down by demanding higher tax rates.
Fact is a study showed that Republicans/conservatives give more to charity than Democrats/liberals. Look it up. So dont play the false morality card - it is selfish to demand higher tax rates because higher tax rates make people and economies suffer and that hurts even children and small puppies.
PJ -- you reason think like a Bush.
Oh Happy Days….
What a week the Obama administration and the Democratic congress has had….
• A record $129 million dollar inauguration event (versus Bush's $42 million). "America needed a party".
• Yo Yo Man Quartet channeled recorded music over the sound system. "It was too cold for the instruments to stay in tune"…duh, it's held in January every year! Long live Milli Vanilli and Jessica Simpson!
• Aretha Franklin said she was disappointed in her voice…really? Maybe her head bow was too tight?
• Our new Treasury Secretary can't figure out what to pay in income tax to the country since 2001…did I mention he'll be heading the IRS?
• Our new Secretary of State won't reveal beyond basic legal limits her family's personal relationships and financial connections with the heads of foreign governments she is supposed to be handling on behalf of the U.S.A.!
• Our new Deputy Secretary of Defense is a recent VP and Lobbyist for Raytheon, who happens to have billions of dollars in Defense contracts.... already has to be provided a waiver to President Obama's new "get tough" policy on involvement of Lobbyist in government .. two days later!
• The President heroically announced an end to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility holding top captured terrorists…..before he has a legal understanding and a plan on where they will go?? Build it and they shall come…??
• The President announced a ban on water boarding and other "torture" techniques to protect America. The new Army Field Manual interrogation standards are now in place…..Ask only name, rank and serial number…and if they want to tell you anything else!!
• The Obama's hired the famously expensive interior designer that the now defamed and defunct Merril Lynch's John Thain used in a display of incredible self entitlement and indulgence…. with the money of others.
• Vice President Biden has already publicly embarrassed the President on two occasions and is telling the Sunday talk shows he has fundamental difference of positions with his President!!
• Carolina Kennedy's bid for the Senate has been a disastrous launch from the beginning… now ending in "marital--tax evasion--nanny- gate".
• The late night talk show hosts are cheering the rich material. "We haven't had this much material to work with since the Clinton administration."
• And then there is Governor Blagojevich, allegedly selling Obama's senate seat for personal gain!!
• Did I mention this was only one week? But hey, I'm an eternal optimist with the audacity to hope; wearing my "Yes We Can" tee-shirt with my Pittsburgh Steeler hat…..thank God for the Super Bowl, we'll need it after week two!
Booo-freaking-hoo, what a bunch of crybabies. How about this answer?
"I earned political capital in this election, and now I'm going to spend it."
Except this time there genuinely IS political capital that was earned. Or didn't you notice the sound beating that you took?
Republican and conservative values have been proven time and time again to be morally, factually, and most recently financially bankrupt. It's time for 'movement conservatism' to check into a hospice and stop inflicting misery on the rest of us, who are moving into the future. All you conservatives, just go crawl in a hole and either rethink your reason for existing, or cease doing so.
The rest of us are busy fixing the crap you broke with your 'era of personal responsibility.' Get out of the way.
"PJ — you reason think like a Bush."
MJ: You don't. At all.
dissent no longer patriotic;
wealth "stolen", not "earned";
Government will give you free pie.
I love how Democrats were wimpy, America-hating traitors and idiots when they tried to dissent, and now Republicans are the "loyal opposition." BHO has already tried to compromise by including $300 billion of tax cuts in his stimulus plan, and now when he wants to use spending on the other $525 billion Republicans object. If I were Barrack, I would ask congress to rewrite a package composed of only $100 billion in tax cuts and ram it through the legislature. He should stop bending over backwards to compromise with the GOP fools who got us into this mess.
The more Obama speaks the more I dislike him. It seems Obama thinks he is a god or a king or a dictator. Perhaps he needs to read what his job is supposed to be about. Good grief what an idiotic statement...sounds like a 3rdgrade ORATOR
It is going to be a long four years.........
To the Republicans who are bound to a long long season on the political wilderness: "Ha Ha!"
We got the correct president. Brilliant. Getting things done. Trashing the Bush nightmares. And the GOP is still stuck in Alaskan mud!
"Shine Perishing Republic" written in 1925 is an indication of the truism that one has to go to the poets to get a true reading of the present political reality. Check it out to understand why it is important to censor and silence. Or not.
What a bunch of whiners. Get over it. You lost because your party, and your boy president, got exposed for being total shams.
to the comment by the accountant - please get the facts straight, both the GOP and the Dems got us into this mess and it has been building since the early 90's...lots of players need to take responsibility (Wall Street, the Congress, Bush, Clinton, money policy, and lets not forget all of the Americans use used their home euity like an ATM and ran up their credit cards). It might feel good (for a second) to bash either paryt, but to everyone, GET REAL AND FACE the FACTS
re: "The Republicans should stand up for their principles, and make it very clear to the American people what the differences between them and the Obamacrats are."
Calling 53% of the America's voters petty names won't change any facts.
Barack Obama won big, the Democratic Senate won big, and the Democratic House won big.
Psst! GOP ideas LOST.
Republicans didn't heed the warning from the voters in 2006 and they paid worse in 2008. If they don't heed the warning in 2008, they will pay even worse in 2010.
And 1212.
Republicans used the last ten years impeaching a twice-elected President who brought us peace and prosperity, and rubber-stamping a President who brought us two wars and another great depression!
The loudest thing Obama said to these whining Republicans is: "I won."
btw. I'd be careful with that "Obamacrat" stuff.
I voted for John McCain because he's a personal hero of mine (as a Navy brat) and I didn't think Obama had enough experience to be President. But I am FULLY in President Obama's camp since the election. I believe that George W. Bush and his Loyal Bushies are some of the most incompetent leaders in American history.
So, Obama has far more support today than the 53% he won on election day, and the Republican Party has far less than the 47% McCain won on his own.
I'd say that those of you still wallowing in the childish name-calling have no idea that "Obamacrats" make up about 75-80% of America right now. Your pettiness only serves to keep you even more marginalized than you were on the day of the election.
Need to be Balanced said it all. Both parties have their bums. We are the fools. We vote for them.
Whilst we bicker, they burn our wealth.
We need to stop attacking one another and realize we are being had. We need to respect one another's opinions and engage in honest and open debate.
Ever notice your elected reps are mostly free loading partisan lawyers full of avarice? Throw the bums out!
We could power America by harnessing the high energy spinning that the founding fathers all must be doing in their graves.
I blame our education system. It has been turning out foolish sheeple since the sixties. Maybe all those souls that were aborted were meant to be the leaders of today.
The fall of America's greatness; always knew it was inevitable (read history) but it is still sad to witness.
I have tertiary syphilis.
Did Obama have a flash of anger? Is he human? Does this kind of thing happen in meeting past? Probably.
This is making a big deal out of nothing.
Obama has shown more intelligence in the first week than was exhibited over the last eight years.
He will be a great President.
As far as I'm concerned, George Bush, Dick Cheney, and their appointees, did more harm America-wide than did Ken Lay with Enron (for those who had retirement funds).
The Texas big-wigs should build him a shrine, not a library.
I wonder if big business was even the slightest factor in going to war with Iraq? If so, there's a lot of blood on his hands.
All I can say is God be with us.
First time looking at this blog. Interstingly, the name callers and "go to hell"-ers appear to have a Democrat bent. I'm disappointed but not surprised by Dems thinking that the meaner and louder they are, they more right they are. You sound like bullies.
PricklyDave is right, none of these D.C. stuffed shirts care about the us. Unless you are a major campaign contributer, you don't exist. Why do you think these people are giving hundreds of billions to mismanaged corporations. And I've got news for you, because no one seems to get it, IT'S Not GOING TO STOP!!!! Just look at how many of the "bailout" beneficiaries or contributers to Obama and McCain. By the way did anyone else notice that Ford spent a nice chunk of their bailout money on a Superbowl add to push a sale that ended Feb.2nd? Still cuttin' jobs though.
@David So spending trillions of dollars and doing more than tripling the deficit that Bush supposedly left us with is a good thing? Yep, great president there....
plase give me a new new email adress
We all need to realize that we are in big trouble. Not just with Obama in office but all the other buffoons that are firmly entrenched in the white house. Nancy Pelosi, for one. And Mr. Wonderful, the crook that gets away with everything. Oh yeah! Barney! The guy that says the spending isn't going to stop is right. Our politicians don't have a clue as to what reality is. They are just bleeding the American public dry. While Bush wasn't perfect, at least he didn't gloat and carried himself with some decorum rather than being an arrogant ass that kisses everyone's ass but the ones that elected him.
And its getting worse, "You know the other side, they just kind of do what they're told."
He's about as bipartisan as he is biracial, you never see it.
,murdoch owns the wsj as well as fox news big surprise on slant of article - do your homework people
" I've thought to myself: Is it unfair to feel this disillusionment given the scale of Obama's inherited problems? …"
OMG still with this? As Keynesian follies have shown, adding debt and regulation will exacerbate recessions (what's the 'true' unemployment number again?)
"And I've wondered, given the visceral disrespect for the president …"
Oh, like the republican how told him to shove it? Oh wait….
"…from the Tea Party — a foul scorn full of innuendo that skirts the boundaries of racism — …"
That's so Q3 2010, we're not racists, just crazy, remember. Speaking of racism, what about his political appointees refusing institutionally to prosecute non-white civil rights offenders. Yeah, that's not racial discrimination and doesn't set a hugely malignant precedent. Get a clue.
"…whether Obama could have done anything to reach across the aisle?…"
oh, you mean like repudiating the Congress people who changed the locks on obamacare meetings to lock out the repubs? oh you mean like actually entertaining input? like not letting lobbyists into his administration, oh wait. you mean like not letting union thugs into his white house more than any other guest? oh wait. you mean like by telling his staffers to not meet a local spots outside the whitehouse so the guests don't have to actually sign the guest log? oh wait. you mean:
.. from wsj: "The top congressional leaders from both parties gathered at the White House for a working discussion over the shape and size of President Barack Obama's economic stimulus plan. The meeting was designed to promote bipartisanship. But Obama showed that in an ideological debate, he's not averse to using a jab. Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: "I won." "
yeah, quite a gem that reaching out, grounded guy you admire.
i don't dislike him due to his skin color, i don't dislike his kids names, i don't dislike his "i've never been proud of my country until now" wife. I just truly dislike his policies and method of governance. get over it and get back to reality.
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100 Icon tutorials every designer should have
Here you will find the 100 most interesting icon related tutorials I've found on the web. If you are a icon enthusiast, a GUI designer, or a plain graphics freak, won't have to type in your browser anything else than Iconshock. Enjoy this list, and don't forget to check out our own tutorials, where we show users the process behind our unique brand styles. You can access our tutorials via the link "Iconshock Tutorials" you can find at the right.
1. Create a cool Yellow helmet icon – PS
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2. Glossy RSS icon – PS
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3. Perfect Shine button – PS
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4. World icon tutorial – PS
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5. Ace of hearts Super Vista Style – AI
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5. Glossy download icon – PS
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6. Illustrate a traffic cone icon – PS
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7. Angry emoticon – PS
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8. Create a jaguar style folder icon – PS
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9. Glossy home icon – PS
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10. Create a high gloss graduation hay icon design – PS
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11. Create a mockingly smiley – PS
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12. Create orb icons – PS
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13. Create a shiny lock icon design – PS
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13. Wizard hat Icon Stroke style – AI
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14. Creating an XP style monitor icon – PS
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15. Design the itunes icon in iphone – PS
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16. Glowing orb with dial – PS
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17. How to make a folder icon – PS
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18. Draw magnifying glass – PS
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19. Create home icon – PS
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20. itunes icon – PS
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21. Custom RSS – PS
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22. Video game Mario icon – PS
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23. Recreate the famous Yahoo! smiley– PS
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24. Skype logo – PS
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25. Skype Buddy icon – PS
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26. Stylish search – PS
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27. Vista error icon – PS
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28. Free PSD Sources for glossy icons – PS
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29. Designing a new stumble upon icon – AI
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30. New Quicktime icon – PS
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31. Simple Coffee – PS
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32. How to create a realistic Gameboy - PS
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33. Create a vector based Zune – PS
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34. How to make a vector military cap icon – AI
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35. Make a handy 3D calendar icon - AI
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36. Create a Can of beans by mapping vectors to a 3D object - AI
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37. 3D apple - AI
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38. How to make a delicious vector orange - AI
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39. Craft a delicious Chinese food icon - AI
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40. Create a vector style Macbook - PS
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40. Administrator icon Clean Web 2.0 Style – AI
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41. Apple iphone Mobile
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42. Translucent style IM icon - AI
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43. Disco Ball - AI
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44. Make 3D yet flat looking shopping basket icons – AI
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45. Halloween Pumpkin - AI
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46. How to Create an Open Book with Illustrator's 3D Extrude $ Bevel Tool - AI
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47. iphone style icon tutorial - PS
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48. How to create an ipod touch - PS
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49.ipod Shuffle from scratch - PS
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50. Design a shiny photorealistic apple remote - PS
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51. Realistic ipod - PS
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52. Add Progressive Icons to Your Site
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54. LED cinema display - FW
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55. Creating an amazing Palm Pre icon - FW
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56. Grunge RSS feed icon - FW
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57.Creating an icon folder - FW
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58. Creating the IE7 logo effect - FW
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59. Gel cap plastic button - FW
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60. A simple little pencil - AI
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60. Clock in Sophistique style – AI
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61. Design a Detailed Compass Icon - PS
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62. Create a Vector RSS Icon - AI
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63. Design Float Circle Icon - AI
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64. Custom Hard Drive Icon - PS
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65. Design a Stylish Mail Icon - PS
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66. Black iMac icon tutorial - PS
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67. Create a Vector Film Slate Icon - AI
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68. How to Create a Vector Safari Compass
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69. Create an Adobe Box Icon - PS
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70. How to Create a Transparent Battery Icon - Ai
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71. Monitor Icon Design - PS
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72. Quicktime icon - PS
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73. 3D Mp3 Player - PS
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74. Cubite graphics design logo icon - PS
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75. How to Design a Set of Multicolored Buddy Icons - AI
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76. Vista Folder Icon Tutorial - PS
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77. Electronic Torch Light Icon - PS
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78. Website Skype icon design - PS
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79. Create a Vector Lock Icon Design - AI
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80. Dish TV Icon - PS
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81. Scissor Icon – PS
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82. How to Create a Magic Wand Icon - AI
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83. Making a Compact Disc Icon - PS
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84. Sony Playstation - PS
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85. Create a Shiny 3D Box - PS
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86. How to Create a Van Icon - PS
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87. How to make a Calendar icon - AI
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88. How to Create an Alarm Clock Icon - AI
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89. Create a Speed Gauge and Watch Icon - PS
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90. Wii Mote Controller Tutorial - PS
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91. Create An Aperture Style Camera Lens Icon - AI
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92. How to Create a Juicy RSS Feed Icon - AI
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93. How to Create a Super Shiny Pencil Icon - PS
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94. Create a Custom Mac OSX Style Ring Binder Address Book Icon - PS
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95. Laser Printer Icon Tutorial - PS
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96. Draw a Classy 3D Poker Chip - PS
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97. Create a Glossy Volt Icon - PS
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98. How to Create a Gearbox Settings Icon Using Simple Shapes - AI
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99. Carbon Style Icon - PS
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100. How to Create a Quirky Twitter Bird icon – Corel Draw
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15 Responses to "100 Icon tutorials every designer should have"
Sherwood September 2nd
Good thing you can click on them to go to the tuts, cuz i still can't see the pics Thanks G, would love to be able to make some good quality icons and these tuts will get me on my way! Thanks for posting.
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Hi Sherwood, it's just a technical bug to be fixed in a few moments. Stay tuned
Jjay September 3rd
Holy cow! Now I know what u been so busy on! It's gonna take me 2 years to go through all of them….*gasping in awe and wonder* Okay, see ya then!
Blogger.Iconshock September 3rd
Sorry people for the missing pictures. Leon our engineer has been playing with the site's database… I hope the problem will be fixed in a couple of days… we are planning to give Leon a teddy bear or a baseball or something so he has something else to juggle around…
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Thank you much for that wonderful entry.
Mario Zabaleta September 17th
finding all these tutorials in just one place is so useful and time saving that it almost makes me feel guilty!
Joe Barstow January 27th
perfect post.
going through every tut for the next 100 days, afterward, I'll see if I notice any self-improvement
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@Joe Barstow Cool portfolio you have there Joe! Thanks for passing by. Don't forget to send us your progress report in May.
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