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Holy Spirit Lutheran Church sale continues
A Holy Spirit Lutheran Church rummage and bake sale continues from 8 a.m. to noon today at the church on Walker Road.
Join the Oakland first-Saturday sing, potluck today
A first-Saturday sing is set for 6 p.m. today at East Oakland Baptist Church, 3095 U.S. Hwy. 62 E. A potluck follows the singing.
Trinity Lutheran announces sermons
Trinity Lutheran Church, 801 Dryer St., has announced sermon themes for its 9:30 a.m. October worship services as follows:
? Sunday - "Christians Enjoy Freedom in God's Gift of Grace"
? Oct. 13 - "Christians Thank God for Delivering Us from Sin"
? Oct. 20 - "Christians Pray Persistently"
? Oct. 27- "Christians Willingly Serve God Above All"
People from the community are welcome to attend any of the worship services. Trinity Lutheran Church is located at 801 Dryer, just off Highway 5 South, one block past College Street. For more information, contact Trinity by calling 424-2888. Worship service times on Sundays are listed in the church directory.
Ozark Christian Fellowship sets feast-day celebrations
Ozark Chrisitan Fellowship has announced feast-day celebrations for October as follows:
? Sunday-Monday - "Feast of Trumpets," sundown to sundown with fasting and prayer. Service is set 6 p.m. Monday, with a fellowship meal following
? Oct. 15-16 - "Atonement," sundown to sundown with fasting and prayer. Service is set for 6 p.m. Wednesday, with a fellowship meal following
? Oct. 21-28 - "Tabernacles" eight-day feast. Service set 6 p.m. Oct. 21 to begin the feast and ends at 6 p.m. Oct. 28 at Camp Fairhavens in Ava, Mo.
Teen Challenge service slated
FLIPPIN - Teen Challenge of Russellville is slated to minister at 6 p.m. Sunday at Flippin Church of God. Teen Challenge Women's Centers are a place of healing, joy and restoration for those age 17 and older. Teen Challenge uses Christian-based principles to help return hope to the lost and the suffering. For information, call Pastor Heith Hogan at (870) 453-2680.
Harpers to sing Sunday in Yellville
YELLVILLE - A special singing by the Harper family is set for 6 p.m. Sunday at Yellville Missionary Baptist Church. For information, call (870) 391-5975.
St. Andrew's to bless animals
A celebration of St. Francis Day with the "Blessing of the Animals" is set for 2 p.m. Sunday at St. Andrew's Episcopal Church. The Humane Society of North Central Arkansas will participate. Donations of dry dog food and cat food will be accepted and given to HSNCA to give out with newly adopted pets.
Presbyterian Women scheduled to meet
BULL SHOALS - The regular meeting of the women of Bull Shoals Presbyterian Church is set for 9:30 a.m. Monday at Village Wheel Restaurant. Hostesses will be Irene Bere and Dot Pittsm with devotion by Sue Babulski.
Lifetree Café to discuss religion
A program, "Only One Way to God? Can One Religion Really Have All the Answers?" will be discussed at 6 p.m. Monday at Lifetree Café, 307 W. North St., under the green awning. The discussion features the filmed story of Valerie Winn, an American whose spiritual journey led her to a Chinese village where she encountered an underground church. Winn describes her encounters with various religions and how they shaped her. Admission is free, with snacks and beverages available. For information, call 425-6071 or email firstname.lastname@example.com.
Bull Shoals UMW meeting set
BULL SHOALS - The Bull Shoals United Methodist Women meeting is set for 1 p.m. Tuesday in the church's fellowship hall. Guest speaker Sandy Garland of Arkansas University Mountain Home will talk about "Women and Religion." Hostesses will be Bobbie Larson and Judy Satterfield.
Mountain Home MOPS groups forming
A kickoff "Hello, Darling!" preview party of Mother of Preschoolers (MOPS) and Mothers of Gradeschoolers (MOMSnext) is set for 6 p.m. Tuesday at First Baptist Church Christian Life Center on Club Boulevard. The event is for area mothers of children ages birth through grade-school. There will be planned activities for children. MOPS and MOMSnext will continue to meet the second Tuesday of every month during the school year.
MOPS groups are local communities that help mothers be better moms by understanding their unique needs, challenges and joys. For more than 35 years, MOPS has been creating authentic communities where moms gather to experience encouragement, support and hope. For information, call Julie at 425-5421 or visit www.myfbcmh.com.
Bread of Life menu announced
The menu for the Wednesday Bread of Life meal for the public is chicken-and-noodles, vegetable, roll and dessert. The free meal is from 3-5:30 p.m. at Word of Life Church, 310 S. Main St. The meal is funded by donations.
Annual Blue Grass Concert slated
The St. Andrew's Episcopal church third annual Blue Grass Concert is set for 12:30 p.m. Oct. 20 on the church's front lawn. The concert features the Crooked Creek band, and includes a barbecue and bake sale, arts-and-crafts vendors, and a silent auction.
Proceeds will go to support the Gamma House and its ministry to homeless women.


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A President Who Should 'Live In Infamy'
Pearl Harbor: FDR knew
Washington lies: how many times must Americans rediscover this home truth?
The revelations provided to us by Edward Snowden are just the latest in a long series of whistleblower acts of bravery that have exposed the crimes of our Wise Leaders. From "Deep Throat" to Dan Ellsberg to Julian Assange and Bradley Manning, these patriots have cast light on the darkest corners of the criminal syndicate that passes for "government" in our day and age. Yet it isn't only disgruntled insiders with a conscience who can blow the whistle on the crimes of the mighty: historians, too, play a vital role in unearthing the past crimes of the US government – or, indeed, of any and all governments. And on this day before the anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, we would do well to turn our attention to one of them, Robert B. Stinnett, author of Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor.
Utilizing documents procured under the Freedom of Information Act, Stinnett proved beyond any reasonable doubt that if Franklin Roosevelt didn't know the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was coming, then he must have gone out of his way not to know.
Stinnett showed we had broken Japan's diplomatic and military codes, which alerted us not only to the movement of the Imperial Navy as it made its way across the Pacific toward its target, but also revealed to us to the presence of a Japanese spy who was radioing vital information from Pearl Harbor to Japanese commanders, including the attack coordinates that would enable the complete decimation of the American fleet.
This information was deciphered and transmitted to 36 high government officials – including FDR. The President, furthermore, insisted on keeping the US fleet at Pearl Harbor, where it was bottled up and vulnerable: when a top naval officer suggested it be moved, he was overruled – and fired.
It's no secret Roosevelt had been trying to get us into the war for years, and did everything in his power to provoke an attack by German warships on US ships carrying vital supplies to besieged Britain. Yet Hitler ordered his submarine commanders to lay off the Americans: the last thing he wanted was to get the US into the war.
It was therefore necessary to get us in through the back door, so to speak, by provoking the Japanese. The draconian sanctions imposed on Nippon were slowly strangling the Japanese economy and war machine: a veritable blockade was in force, and they frantically tried to loosen Uncle Sam's grip on their necks through negotiation.
The President, however, rudely rebuffed them: the direct result of this was the fall of the Japanese government, which had up to that time had been in favor of negotiating with the Americans, and the triumph of the Japanese militarists under Tojo, who were bent on war. Once this change in government was accomplished, thanks to FDR's machinations, war was only a matter of time.
The Roosevelt administration knew all this, and yet ploughed happily onward in its march to war. They knew the Japanese fleet was on its way: they knew the attack coordinates had been transmitted to Japanese commanders. And they knew precisely when the attack would take place – yet the President left the fleet in harbor.
The American people were opposed to entering the war, even at that late date. Some 75 percent told pollsters we should stay out, right up until December 7. The strenuous and relentless efforts by such Anglophile propaganda groups as the Committee to Aid the Allies, "Fight for Freedom," and the Century Club had come to nil. What was needed was a catalyzing incident, a clear act of aggression against us by the Axis powers – in short, the "surprise attack" on Pearl Harbor.
"Remember Pearl Harbor" became the War Party's battle-cry, and not just back then but for many years afterward – yes even today. It's no surprise so many of our foreign policy metaphors are taken from that era: whenever the US decides to negotiate rather than bomb, the Usual Suspects turn up with cries of "Munich!" No sooner has some tinpot despot decided to defy Washington's diktat then he's automatically promoted to "Hitler" status, his third-rate broken-down army of conscripts likened to the blitzkrieging German war machine of 1939. Pearl Harbor has become shorthand for any sort of "sneak attack" which catches the unwary with their pants down, a signpost on the road of History warning nefarious "isolationists" of the dangers of complacency in a world of endless enemies.
The response to Stinnett's book, first published in 2000, was all too predictable: the Court Historians went on the offensive, but the best they could come up with was Richard Bernstein in the New York Times, who averred that, while the new information Stinnett had unearthed was indeed "disturbing," on the other hand:
"[T]he mere existence of intelligence does not prove that that intelligence made its way into the proper hands or that it would have been speedily and correctly interpreted."
This kind of artful evasion has been used to explain away practically every large scale deceit by government in modern times: We had bad intelligence, or the good intelligence "fell through the cracks." The former was deployed in defense of the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq, while the latter was utilized to explain away the numerous instances in which the US government failed to follow up on evidence that the 9/11 hijackers were actively preparing a major terrorist attack on US soil.
"We didn't know!" – Richard Nixon initially tried to claim that about the criminal activities of his White House "plumbers." That's what George W. Bush said when the hunt for WMD in "liberated" Iraq found nothing. That's what the Israelis said when Fox News exposed the fact that their agents had been monitoring the 9/11 hijackers and somehow neglected to tell us.
Of course they knew. Yet they'll never fess up. Which brings me to the point – ah, you knew it was coming! – and it is this: history is mostly a compendium of convenient lies. Convenient, that is, for those in power. What passes for the history of modern times is, simply put, mythology – a "narrative" that serves a purpose.
And what is that purpose?
It's always to glorify the wisdom of our rulers: their foresight, their virtue, their utter indispensability. If Roosevelt was hell-bent on war, then he must've had a very good reason, one which mere mortals were unable or unwilling to see.
That is how Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., the "historian" and Democratic party operative characterized FDR's willful deceit on the question of the war: in public, the President insisted he was for peace while all the time he and his advisors – including Soviet agent Harry Hopkins and a score of other highly placed spies and fellow travelers – were plotting and scheming to provoke a German or Japanese first strike.
The myth of Pearl Harbor – that a "sleeping" America was taken unawares by those sneaky Asian Japanese militarists – is the cornerstone of an overarching mythos: the fable of World War II as the Good War. In reality, there was nothing – repeat, nothing – good about it. The Nazi regime would have imploded on account of its own inherent instability, regardless of how the war in Europe turned out: furthermore, by the time the Americans entered the fray, the British were out of danger and the Soviets had the Germans on the run in the East. The idea that we would all be speaking German – or, in the Western half of the US, Japanese – if not for FDR's duplicity is just another canard borne of a lie.
If so much "history" is a lie, then the proper role of journalism in the here-and-now needs to be underscored at least twice: because history, after all, is simply what happened yesterday. Journalists are writing the history of our times even as I type this and if these alleged guardians of Truth are corrupted by, or in any way complicit with the mandarins of power, then what we get isn't history – it's a "narrative" concocted by politicians, lobbyists, special pleaders, and public relations firms, one suited to continue their depredations and cover up their crimes.
That's why ensuring the continued existence of Antiwar.com is so vitally important. For 17 years we've been on the front lines fighting to expose the true history of Washington's wiles – but we absolutely cannot continue to do it without your support. And, yes, I mean your financial support.
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This country is at a turning point: we can either go the way of the War Party – toward a semi-authoritarian state that is constantly on the verge of attacking our perceived "enemies" – or back to the policy of the Founders, who abhorred militarism because they rightly saw it as the doorway to tyranny.
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64 Responses to "A President Who Should 'Live In Infamy'"
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FDR and many others at the top knew an attack was coming, somewhere. Our planes saw the transports heading to Malaya several times at sea over the three days before Pearl Harbor.
I know quite a bit of our Navy at the time. Nobody imagined a strike like Pearl Harbor. Nobody imagined a carrier task force of six carriers with almost 400 strike aircraft. Not just FDR, but nobody even imagined it was possible. The Japanese had just invented the fast carrier force in the last year before the war. Before that even they could not have imagined it.
Now they could have imagined a strike by one carrier, two at the most, which is how we did it over the first six months of the war. Halsey had done a one-carrier strike on Pearl Harbor as part of a Fleet Problem. That is not the same as what we think of as a Pearl Harbor.
Also, it was not in any strategic concept of the US Navy to do simultaneous operations across the whole Pacific, with a major invasion going South even as the entire carrier force went East to the far side of the ocean. Even the Japanese Naval Staff thought it too much, and Yamamoto had to threaten to resign to get it done. Even when we ran a two part war, MacArthur and Nimitz, they alternated and the support forces went back and forth.
This was something that only the Japanese could think of, both as an operation and as a strategic concept. Nobody saw it coming.
But yes, Pearl Harbor could have and should have been more ready for a raid, with torpedo nets in the water after the British example of a single carrier raid on Taranto in a harbor just as shallow. But that was partly the American racism, which truly believed the Japanese were incapable by our standards. My father fought in the South Pacific, and told me how that assumption was still taught, and did not disappear for him until he actually fought the Japanese.
Now FDR was a liar, and the model for the Straussian Noble Lie that inflicted the neocons on us. For all the good he accomplished, he has that to answer for, but his excuse is that we did not have to take THAT lesson from all he did — that was on us.
In 911 the CIA didn't simply withhold info that alQ personnel were entering the country… they actively suppressed that information form the WH , FBI (at least officially) and Counter-terror director Richard Clarke
Richard Clarke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6w1YaZdf8&lr…
But it gets worse … in the 1992 WTC bombing FBI informants actually planted the explosives and helped detonate them
Dan Rather http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embed…
Of course, the Saudis paid for the West Coast hijackers expenses when the FBI informant Sheik so graciously housed them and supplied logistical support. Similar cells existed in Fl, NJ and the DC area… some of them actively under FBI surveillance … Bush classified the Saudi funding and support angle
A new bill was filed this week to declassify that info… will put and end to Prince Bandar's career
"Day of Deceit' is an excellent book. Two others in my opinion among the myriad of books about FDR and Pearl Harbor are 'Infamy Revisited: Another Look at Pear Harbor' by David R. Wade and 'FDR: The Other Side of the Coin' by Hamilton Fish. Willis Carto, Publisher of 'The Barnes Review' magazine has also written an informative booklet, 'A Straight Look at the Second World War' that explains Roosevelt's master plan and how he along with Churchill, plotted to get the US into the war. Those two, along with Stalin and their zionist handlers and co-conspirators are the real infamous villians and instigators of that completely unecessary war, not Hitler and the Third Reich.
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The general point that Govts often lie is obvious, but this particular theory is not very credible. There is no doubt that FDR and others in his administration were indeed looking for a way to stand up to Nazism and thus enter the war. But, assuming their full and detailed knowledge of the precise Japanese plans, exactly the same objective could have been achieved must less costly in terms of lives and materiel . Some general precautionary preparedness alert could have been given (without referring to the intelligence) , and, once the Japanese planes had left their carriers, an order given for US planes to take off and the fleet to disperse. The japs would still have attacked PH, US brought in the war ( as desired) , but Japan defeated more easily- possibly avoiding the use of the atom bomb
It's interesting to note that no POTUS in US History was buried under the same flag he was born under….this dates back to the "founding" (even technically before) which 'originated' with "13 original colonies" which has now expanded to "50 States" + various "territories" all over the world…including East Asia (eg. Guam)…and is currently the 3rd largest Nation in the world land wise behind Russia and Canada.
That aside, and instead of rehashing WWII and discussing FDR's "legacy", I would like to mention another loosely 'related' issue of "relevance" to consider:
Apparently, there is now a brand "new" allegation of 'Chemical Weapons' use in Syria….an "allegation" by the mercenary terrorists (of course) which includes more fake video so-called "evidence":
Of course, we and Israel will attack Syria. This destruction of the chemical weapons controlled by the Assad Government is just to make the incursion a little safer. Doesn't anyone remember how we convinced Saddam to destroy his limited missile supply just before our "shock and awe". He was told that he needed to destroy them to get peace – he did and then we attacked – sucker, we had our fingers crossed.
Note to Justin – I'll send you a small donation – it is admirable how you folks keep trying. And you are probably right. My preferred methodology would be to just roll guillotines up to selected addresses on Wall Street, K Street, etc.
Thanks for one of the most wilfully ignorant distortions of WW2 history ever written.
Britain wasn't out of danger at all. Churchill was desperate for the Americans to enter the war. And one of the main reasons the USSR was able to fend off Germany was the multitude of weapons, vehicles, and other supplies the Americans shipped them in the early 40's, across a vast and circuitous path (to avoid German interception). The Soviets turned the tide of the war WITH ENORMOUS AMERICAN HELP.
Raimondo, stick to your childish, petulant attacks on Israel. That suits you much better than speaking with authority on subjects you clearly know NOTHING about. And by the way, thanks for implying that the Holocaust wasn't worth stopping. You're all heart, Raimondo.
"The Soviets turned the tide of the war WITH ENORMOUS AMERICAN HELP. "
And Stalin turned out to be ten times the murdering tyrannical monster that Hitler was.
You're incorrect about Britain's ability to hold off the Germans: by the time the US entered the war, the German assault on Soviet Russia had already made a cross-Channel invasion impossible. Germany could not fight a two-front war. You're also wrong about stopping the Holocaust, which had already occurred: the time to stop it was when Hitler rearmed and took the Ruhr and Austria.
The Soviets had American help, and that is precisely my point: we helped saved Communism from a "premature" burial. While it should have died in the rubble of Leningrad, Lend-Lease revived it and your hero FDR iced the cake by handing over Eastern Europe to Stalin at Yalta, paving the way for a half century of "cold war."
As for what Israel has to do with any of this, one can only wonder.
well i guess in 70 more years or so maybe people will be able to admit the neocon gov't not only knew 911 was a false flag but planned it themselves. awesome. and now i'll go back to my firm belief in magic bullets, lone gunmen, and my happy knowledge that our gov't would NEVER murder it's own citizens.
known by many US sailors since Dec. 1941. My father, US navy 1942 said us fleet had been operating under war time conditions and blackouts while in harbor until 2 weeks before attack, then blackout was lifted and sailors given liberal shore leaves. No aircraft carriers in harbor, only big ships there were WW1 battleships.
Interesting analysis. Could it be possible that feelings of humiliation after such illusions on Japanese inferior capacities and will had been shattered, ended up fueling many of the following decisions, culminating in the "demonstration" of nuclear capacity involving two Japanese cities when capitulation was already near? In the line of "avenge thee of thine enemy an hundred-fold"?
which of the following four theories about attack on pearl harbor fleet appears true:
1)that US government knew when and against what exactly japanese fleet would launch an attack.
2)knew or expected an attack, but had not known when and where an attack would take place.
3] didn't expect an attack at all.
4) would not ever allow knowingly destruction of a fleet and death of so many navy people just to enter into a war.
the attempt to assassinate hitler proves that at least a part of german military expected that germany would lose that war. had the assassination been successful., new german leadership would have most likely sued for peace with at least the West; thus ended the occupation of france, italy, denmark, belgium, austria, czechoslovakia, poland, yugoslavia, greece…
Raised in England during the sixties/seventies, the history I learned was that Britain was almost single handedly responsible for defeating both the Kaiser and Hitler, with material aid from the US given late and reluctantly in both wars. Russian contributions to both war efforts was simply not discussed. Cognitive dissonance was my constant companion as I relearned history – from the American perspective – at a US university. What deceptions, lies, and evasions must have been taught to children in the USSR to explain Russia's participation on both sides of WWII? The history we think we know has very little to do with the truth. Our leaders prefer it that way.
EXACTLY. A FAILED Japanese raid on Pearl Harbor would still have caused the USA to go to war, and we could have begun the war on a stronger footing.
The political Right in the USA retains its obsession with discrediting FDR, that "unforgivable", "evil" traitor to his fellow plutocrats.
As for start and stop of the Holocaust, the death camps started only after the various declarations of war by US and allies but were stopped not so long after and cleaned out when the Eastern front weakened in 1942. Awareness of the presence of the (by then already closed) death camps and lets not forget all other prison camps was present to some extent at the time of invasion but not yet at the time of the planning for one. And certainly not at the moment the war was entered since the death camps were not there yet: the ones which would define the Holocaust.
Of course one could make the case that many other types of camps were in place already between 1939 and 1941 but there's little evidence this played any major part in the decision making process to enter the war. However it might have shaped some decisions later on how to handle specifics.
Clare Boothe Luce said the U.S. lured the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor in order to get the U.S. into a war with GERMANY. We declared war on Japan the day after Pearl, and then that idiot Hitler declared war on us for declaring war on his great ally Japan, thereby assuring himself an unwinnable two-front war. The Japanese returned the favor by not lifting a finger on the Eastern Front to help Hitler. A few hundred thousand Japanese troops on the Soviet border would have taken a million Russian troops away from the battle of Stalingrad.
i don't doubt that US would keep on trying to either keep syria much dysfunctional or render it dismembered into at least two de facto states.
as for israel, i'm not sure that US/EU is not using it and not it using US or EU!
recall: there are no mines, mighty rivers, lakes, forests in palestina.
israel has to get ore or metals from abroad. in order to obtain metals and thus have most modern arms, it has to obey US/EU!!!
in short, few lands are such an utter dependency as israel appears to be.
it is beyond the pale that euro-asian imperialists/colonialists chose just such a poor land to attack and colonize.
Good list. Good point.
I'd say 2.
I'd also say that nobody who chooses war expects the real cost of that war as things turn out. There are always ugly surprises, always for the worse. To the extent that 4 is true, and it is, none of them had any idea it could possibly be so bad, nor at Pearl Harbor. They were looking at the Philippines. Since our Philippine forces also got creamed in record breaking disasters, it is clear they underestimated that too.
It is telling the way Britain clings to WW2. That covers a vast and general dissatisfaction with everything Post War.
It is an article of faith for Raimondo that the USSR never, ever, ever could have defeated Nazi Germany without US help. We and the British DID help, but the USSR did still build most of its own equipment, and bore the lion's (or rather, the bear's) share of the war against Nazi Germany, once Hitler was foolish enough to attack the USSR–all of this in spite of Stalin's poor leadership, especially his foolishly paranoid gutting of his own officer corps before the war, and the inefficiencies of Communism.
I expect the outcome of JR's desired scenario would have been the Soviets still rolling into Berlin, only a few years later than in actual history, and then taking control not of half of continental Europe but all of it.
None of this means I like Communism–this is more a case of "giving the devil his due".
Yeah, FDR loved him some Communism.
We all know those rich folks just can't get enough of an ideology that not only promises to strip them of all their wealth and power, but also probably kill them.
I respect you about 99% of the time, Raimondo. This falls into the other 1%.
However, I agree with Raimondo on the non-necessity of our other wars EXCEPT WW2, and the real motive for those other wars being to protect and expand the profits of Big Business, at the expense of the honest common peoples of other nations.
That is where I part company with the enthusiasts of interventionism. To them, WW2 was the great EXAMPLE. To me, WW2 was the great EXCEPTION.
Though yes, there were sordid motives even in WW2. The Anglo-American plutocrats felt they had to squelch their German rivals for global economic supremacy, and they largely succeeded in that goal.
Stalin had more time to kill people than Hitler had.
If Hitler had enjoyed as many years as a dictator as Stalin enjoyed, perhaps Hitler would have surpassed Stalin in numbers of victims.
Justin rightly lauds Stinnett's meticulous forging of an airtight case against FDR, but for some reason fails to mention that after all that hard work Stinnett turns around and defends the whole sordid episode. Here are the author's own words: "I sympathize with the agonizing dilemma faced by President Roosevelt. He was forced to find circuitous means to persuade an isolationist America to join in a fight for freedom." It is the equivalent of a DA proving beyond even an unreasonable doubt that the accused committed multiple murders, then asking the jury to acquit because it was "for the greater good."
Since Stinnett is obviously as two-faced as Janus, please do not purchase this book. Borrow a copy from a friend or check one out at the library, but don't line his pockets with royalty money.
Werner, I don't agree with your Idea that FDR, Churchill, and Stalin were more "infamous villains" than Hitler. But history is always told from the viewpoint of the victors, thus the Allies were all good and the Germans were all bad. Germany was royally screwed by the Treaty of Versailles, which led directly to the rise of Hitler. For a more objective look at the War in Europe, I recommend Pat Buchanan's book "The Unnecessary War."
I would also go with #2.
Plus, it was thought that air-dropped torpedoes could not work in Pearl Harbor, because PH was too shallow–the torpedoes would just bury themselves in the mud. The Japanese found a way around that problem. They built balsa-wood structures on the backs of the torpedoes, which added just enough aerial buoyancy to let the torpedoes hit the water at a shallower angle, and so not bury themselves in the mud.
As for #4, a successful repulsion of the Japanese surprise attacks would still have brought the USA into the war, and allowed us to start it on a stronger footing. Hence, FDR would have been a fool not to have warned his commanders if he had known the attack was coming–and I don't think he won 4 presidential elections by being stupid. ^_^
The Axis decision-makers, like our own neoconservatives, tended to believe their own propaganda about how special and wonderful and invincible they were. This might explain Hitler's folly in declaring war on the USA when he wasn't obligated to do so–Germany and Italy's "Tripartite Pact" with Japan only would have obligated G & I to declare war on the USA if WE had attacked JAPAN, rather than what actually happened. Indeed, Japan had already used that provision to slip out of fighting the USSR, since Germany had attacked the USSR, rather than the opposite.
If Mark Thomason (above comment) is correct (which I doubt) then supposedly none of our paid and numerous War Dept planners conceived of such a massive fast attack carrier assault on Pearl Harbor. And if that was indeed the case, then perhaps as Monster suggests what happened was that FDR a) knew of the Japanese attack but b) grossly underestimated the size and nature of this attack. Instead of getting a relative pin prick and loss, he (and our Navy) received a massive blow which only narrowly avoided total anniliation.
FDR clearly knew about the upcoming attack. Perhaps he miscalculated the size and willfully ignored the intelligence which showed a huge carrier attack heading towards Hawaii.
Some have discussed Bush's seemingly criminal disregard of warnings about an al Qeada air piracy attack on the US using hijacked airliners. Evidence for this exists but isn't as strong (yet) as the FDR crime.
Also, the fact that Hitler was NOT obligated to join Japan in fighting the USA if Japan attacked the USA, rather than the opposite, diminishes the argument of the Wrap Cap crowd [Reynolds Wrap, that is ;)] that FDR wanted to provoke Japan into attacking us in order to save the Commies from the Ratzis. FDR would have known perfectly well that Hitler could disable that hypothetical plan simply by observing the Pact to the letter, and refusing to declare war on the USA after Japan attacked the USA.
after japan had occupied china, korea, s.e asia i think US had available [only?] two choices: accept it or wage war against japan.
i think that there was no need to stage a false flag operation or allow a japanese sneak attack.
it seems to me that US government could have at least tried to tell americans what was going on and what would be possible/probable consequences of not stopping japanese expansionism.
it would have sufficed, i think, to obtain an approval for war of a vast number of americans. if not, US could have engineered a false flag operation or made it easy for japan to attack one thing or another.
had US not entered ww1 april '17, the war would have most likely ended a tie.
that means there would not have been versailles '19; possibly/probably not another world war! by the time US came to europe, possibly 20mn soldiers already died!
Obviously, any historical analysis arguing that Washington couldn't have seen a military attack from Japan coming by the early '40's is simply not credible anymore. Whether or not they knew exactly where it would happen is another matter. What I think is more important is the myth that it was an "unprovoked" attack, when Washington had already declared war on Japan with economic sanctions. The idea that Washington is just innocently going about its affairs in the world peacefully and doing nothing to provoke violence, much less instigate its own violence, is one that we need to challenge.
I believe that is in this essay where Chomsky reviews Japan's position on the Pacific War, and he also compares Japan's counterinsurgency campaigns in Manchria to the ones happening at the time in Vietnam:
The official US version of history also omits how Western financiers and corporations, i.e. Henry Ford and GM, were indispensible in building up Hitler's war machine and in enabling Nazi Germany's imperial conquest. At the same time, Ford and GM were manufacturing jeeps, trucks, tanks, et.al. for the US & Allied forces. That sounds like quite a "protection racket." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dai…
For some reason, the link above to the WP doesn't work. Do a search on Google under the title: "Ford and GM Scrutinized for Alleged Nazi Collaboration"
Yes, it's amazing how many Britons (the older generations,at least) still believe they "won" WW2 fighting their German brothers when all their drunken, cigar-chomping zionist-tool hero Churchill did was succeed in bankrupting the country and losing their Empire. And the end result is the socialistic multicultural Big Brother craphole modern is Britain today. Talk about cognitive dissonance and complete stupidity. Not that America is any better, though.
America was still good enough to be part of the coalition that kicked your precious Fuhrer's arse, Werner.
Dusan Popov, a hungarian double agent for the Germans and British, informed J. Edgar Hoover that the Japanese wanted information on the British carrier attack on Trieste, and later wanted information on the US fleet at Pearl Harbor. Popov told Hoover, he believed the Japanese intended to attack Pearl Harbor. Popov passed his information to Hoover at the behest of British Intelligence. Hoover later said he didn't take Popov's information seriously. THAT defies common sense. If some government official had been warned about Pearl Harbor and did not pass that up the chain- it would have been huge news. Probably that was the source of Hoover's power over the presidents. Black mail pure and simple. NO ONE would NOT pass that warning along.
yr comparison between Bush and 9/11, and FDR and PH is very apt. I have seen no credible evidence that Bush was guilty of criminal disregard. Assuming the motivation (cheney/wolfwth etc..) was to invade Irak, it would have been so must more "cost-effective" to simulate e.g. shooting by Saddam of a US plane enforcing the no-flight zone, than allowing non Irakis to create this havoc, and then have to FURTHER try to manufacture an implausible a link with Saddam. By far the most plausible explanation, in both cases, was incompetence in the intelligence management machinery. For PH, there is much evidence of lack of coordination and inter-service rivalry. What would be the possible motivation of FDR, Stimson, Hopkins etc not to issue a last minute direct warning once the jap planes were in the air- irrespective of the perceived size of the attack? Remember, even at it was, the second wave of jap planes did suffer quite a bit of losses.
Don't worry, prince Bandar bin Israel will be promoted, he did his job well to create mayhem in the M.E.
Yes, Monster, the so-called "Greatest Generation" dupes "kicked the Fuhrer's arse" which resulted in the socialistic multicultural Big Brother craphole run by zionists, communists and moral degenerates. You can now go back to watching "Inglorious Basterds" and the new "Captain America" movie.
Actually, I prefer anime.
As for socialism, Scandinavian-style social democracy would be just fine with me.
Your side lost. Deal with it, Swastika Boy.
Yes. As Coolidge said, "The business of America is business."
However, the business of "American" business is not, and never has been, America.
*sigh* Typo. The second word in my handle should be "from", of course.
I can haz edit feechur, plz? :P
"Run by Communists"?
Oh, Werner lives in Cuba or North Korea?
Oh wait, maybe China–they still CALL themselves "Communists", even if they're really a different sort of authoritarian regime now.
What could have happened without US involvement is pure conjecture, and highly disputable (NAZI collapse, Japanese conquest of China, A-bombs, Cold War, etc.).
What is now beyond dispute is that Roosevelt wanted US involvement, and used deceit and secrecy to achieve that end.
The question going forward is whether US citizens will accept the POTUS having the continued ability to deceitfully initiate or lead the US into wars and interventions.
Regardless how wars, conquests, enslavements, genocides, have turned out recently or a thousand years ago,
is such autocratic rule nowadays acceptable
– despite all the ramifications for civil liberties, militarism, and political/ economic corruption ?
Interesting set of comments mostly. What is clear from numerous historical incidents is that powerful (or dictatorial) national leaders often ignore clear factual warnings about upcoming events in order to advance their own personal imaginary theories of what their nations should do about various threats.
History shows that (e.g. FDR, Stalin, Bush Jr, et.al.) clearly should have known about upcoming attacks but either wanted them to happen (albeit in weak form) or totally dismissed all the evidence and stubbornly clung to false beliefs. I'm sure history is replete with other cases. Bush's recent invasion of Iraq is another instance of such willful (and sinister) indifference to revealed truths by ones own intelligence assets. Of course the "secret" attackers taking advantage of such circumstances usually end up losing, fortunately. Their own imaginary scenarios rarely play out as they expect.
Gen. George Patton finally saw WW2 for the fraud it was, and was assassinated accordingly: watch?v=cKtb-VLYXAs
"Thanks for implying that the Holocaust wasn't worth stopping. You're all heart, Raimondo."
Europe and the US were filled with anti-Semites during this time. Both of them actively rejected asylum to Jews even after the death camps were public knowledge. That the US entered to war to rescue the Jews, or that the war was fought to save them is a myth that needs to die permentantly. It would've been more courageous had that been the truth, but it wasn't. And those noting Stalin's murderous rampage are spot on. The gulags were in place way before Hitler's death camps, yet still Stalin remained an ally. Sickening.
Hey, I'll admit to being an ignorant redneck.
Can any of you all-knowing transcendent geniuses, who cherish the Reynolds Wrap Cap story that FDR was a Commie, explain to me why a rich man such as FDR would support Communis–which would be like a chicken supporting Colonel Sanders?
*sigh* Communism, that is.
I can haz edit feechur, plz?
I think we are missing the most important point. The story did not start in 1941 or 1939 or 1936. It began in 1914. World War II was a continuation of World War I. Without that disaster, there would have been no Russian Revolution, no Weimar Republic, and no Third Reich. No one would ever have heard of Hitler or Stalin. They and Lenin would have died in obscurity. The name of this site is Antiwarcom. Let's focus on the main lesson: this is what happens when you start wars.
You presume that the only way to get rich is free-market capitalism, and that therefore someone who is rich is inclined to defend it. The easiest and historically most common way to get rich is via political power. Any excuse to accumulate it will do. Promoting the myth of communism works for some. Progressivism works for others. An even trickier argument is that political power must be accumulated to fight communism (or terrorism, or the war on drugs, or the war on poverty, etc.). But regardless of the excuse, politicians invariably seek to deny individual liberty in the pursuit of wealth and power.
Please complete the thought – political domination may lead to wealth; but also most assuredly, wealth leads to political domination. Would the Koch Bros or Sheldon Adelson have any influence if they were broke? And politicians ALWAYS seek to serve the wealthy. Governments, if they are to last, must serve the wealthy. That is why capitalism hangs on, when communism faded.
That's one major reason Communism faded.
That "compulsory atheism" thing didn't help Communism, either. Religion is one of the most potent means of organizing human beings, and inspiring them to keep struggling against long odds, known–perhaps THE most potent.
Look who's the biggest pain in global plutocracy's @$$ today–the jihadis.
Marx and Engels crippled their ideology from Day One by denying it that organizing and inspiring force.
Plus, declaring war on religion forced EVERY religion to oppose Marxism, as a matter of their survival.
What "free-market capitalism" is Lowry talking about?
All capitalism of any size is crony capitalism.
I suspect the only real "free-market capitalism" is FLEA-market capitalism. ;)
I get to arguing with a Ratzi-lover and I end up with net negative votes–makes me wonder what kind of people hang around this site.
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CU had been fighting hard to push up the effective date of the Credit CARD Act with a bill dubbed the Credit Card Freeze Bill. The bill would have immediately frozen increases in interest rates on credit card balances, as well as hikes in fees and finance charges. The bill needed a unanimous consent in order to pass out of the Senate, but Republican Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Mississippi, put the kibosh on it when he said:
"On behalf of several Senators on this side of the aisle, I object,"
From the HuffPo coverage:
"We worked long and hard to enact the safeguards included in the Credit CARD Act," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who was an original sponsor of the CARD Act. "And no sooner had it been signed into law, but credit card companies were looking for ways to get around the protections this Congress and the American people demanded. This bill would end those abuses and further protect customers today."
The Senate schedule is packed with nominations, health care and appropriations bills, leaving no time for a prolonged floor fight over credit cards.
The only way Democrats could pass the bill in time for the holidays would be with the support of the GOP -- all but five of which voted for it initially.
Watch Dodd give a pretty great speech on how credit card companies are going after consumers. Then Cochran files his objection to the bill at 7:49 of the video.
2 Posted by Gabriela Amari at 11/19/09 07:23 PM
I am so disgusted with how this country is all about Power and Money and no protection for WE THE PEOPLE.Bent
3 Posted by Jim at 11/20/09 06:54 AM
I'm Truly convinced that the Republicans don't CARE AT ALL about whether a bill is good for the country as a whole or not! they are Self-Serving, Greedy Obstructionists who only care about regaining the power they lost in Congress--At the Expense of the American people! OUTRAGEOUS AND DESPICALBE!! I think that Democrats shouldn't scrap this bill..They should fight like HELL to implement it. Better Later than Never! These Sleazy Corporations NEED to be Strictly REGULATED. If they let this go, it is sending a message to these Low-Lifes that they can continue to do Whatever they Want to hard working people in this country. That is just UNTHINKABLE!
4 Posted by Paul Vail at 11/26/09 07:41 AM
Both sides of the aisle are full of hugh egos and massive greed beyond belief. Term limits are a must if we the people are ever to be served again. When the constitution was past, people seldom lived beyond their early 50's. Now pork barrel pay offs by long term congressmen use tax money taken from you to buy your neighbors vote for their re-election. The process cycles evermore.
For Gods sake, wise up America before your elected Kings bankrupt our republic and our children become slaves to government by the few.
5 Posted by Deborah at 12/01/09 09:11 AM
Jim is correct. Both sides play to (different but just as poisonous) lobbyists, not the people. Term limits is the only way to safeguard what is left of Congressional management. 2 terms is enough for anyone in any position.
6 Posted by Deborah at 12/01/09 09:13 AM
When are people going to wake up and realize that we are a Plutocracy form of government now. Big Business runs us! We are neither a Republic nor a Democracy....we are slaves to the legal theivery of the big Corporations of this country!! Do you think telling your elected officials will change anything? NO! They either are part of BIG BUSINESS or they are paid under the table by BIG BUSINESS. They are not working for your own best interests.
7 Posted by Raymond at 12/01/09 09:59 AM
When are people going to wake up and realize that we are a Plutocracy form of government now. Big Business runs us! We are neither a Republic nor a Democracy....we are slaves to the legal theivery of the big Corporations of this country!! Do you think telling your elected officials will change anything? NO! They either are part of BIG BUSINESS or they are paid under the table by BIG BUSINESS. They are not working for your own best interests.
8 Posted by Julia Kay-Grace at 12/01/09 10:18 AM
This freeze is but another small example of why this country is on course to become third world power. Jim, et al, are quite correct that our political system is broke. It matters very little which party controls Congress or the Executive branches as both parties are ultimately controlled by special interests.
Some want less government, some want more government but the result is that we have no government that can effectively pass legislation. This healthcare fiasco is a joke. After every special interest places their seal of approval on it, we won't have healthcare reform at all; just a compilation of special interests pandering.
9 Posted by Sherry Conner at 12/01/09 10:23 AM
One of our credit cards, a Master Card, "put a hold" on our credit with that card within an hour of our paying the balance in full (under $3,000) ! ! The benefit to our credit rating of having paid it off was - thereby - totally lost by the fact that the lender suspended our use of the card! Who benefits? The lender gets to charge us a higher rate of interest, when we ever get the card - or another like it - back. After years of paying our Gold Card off in payments of $1000 monthly or so, they suddenly decided we had to pay off the balance in full before we could use it again - this after spending a couple months saying that they wanted about half the balance. How do they benefit by lowering our maximum credit? They get to charge "over limit" fees ! On a limit they just reduced!!
Creditors are acting like thieves and confidence crooks and Congress just lets them do it!
10 Posted by JimmyDaGeek at 12/01/09 10:40 AM
I have every intention of cancelling my credit cards if and when these companies decide to implement all the new rules and policies. I don't have to have a credit card!!!!
11 Posted by Anthony S. Milograno at 12/01/09 11:07 AM
Here's something really radical.
What if we stopped carrying a balance on our credit cards? What if we saved up for the purchases we wanted or used layaway? Then it would make no difference what interest rates were! And if credit card companies started charging for using the cards, we could stop using them and go back to debit cards and checks.
Then we wouldn't have to worry about our useless politicians doing what we should be doing ourselves - be fiscally responsible citizens. We would be self-reliant instead of whiners.
What a crazy idea - huh?
12 Posted by Peg Lang at 12/01/09 11:07 AM
Just cancel your card. They will get the message. You cannot reason with them, they are infected with GREED.
13 Posted by Steve Burns at 12/01/09 11:18 AM
Once again the little guy gets knifed in the back. After while there won't be anyone left in the middle class! How much money do the fat cats need? This is not morally right!
14 Posted by J. Kennedy at 12/01/09 11:33 AM
The democrats paved the way for the banks with the stimulus payments. Banks no longer need their credit card business to survive in the short term. Their position is to grab as much as they can in the short term. The Republicans just sealed the deal.
The banks will be the losers in the long term...consumers have long memories...longer than the bailout funds will last.
15 Posted by Dorie J Davis at 12/01/09 11:48 AM
I cannot believe what's going on in our country, it certainly is not for "the people" any longer. We're turning into a socialist communist country, if we're not already there. Since when did the banks have a 100% right to control us. We should all stop using credit cards. We'll see what concepts the banks will come up with then in order to use them, 1% interest probably, but it will take a while. Maybe then they'll raise the rates on our savings account. They charge us 25% interest for the privilege of using their credit card, yet give us only .25% interest on our savings for the privilege of making money for themselves. Go figure.
16 Posted by Billy Watkins at 12/01/09 11:52 AM
So this is what the Great American Tarp bill represented, no more customer friendly? With our greed we will demand more from the consumer at their expense (TARP), and then break them down thru higher interest, close accounts (ruin their future credit)
and finally do all of this now, so as not to loose pennies later.
Lets surprise them do away with all credit cards now, remember, "We The People" can make this change.
17 Posted by Patsie Ross at 12/01/09 12:22 PM
Basically I echo most of the blogs on this subject. A simple fix is term limits, outlaw special interest lobby. They should only be allowed to call, write letters or email as I do and then receive a patronizing answer that contains no mention of whatever subject I may have raised. I would suggest that if we the people put as much energy into direct action instead of all the blogs we might get some change. We have the power but we don't use it. Do we need another Martin KING. I think so. This time for political overhaul.
18 Posted by mary mici at 12/01/09 12:31 PM
A 10% interest rate cap should be implemented immediately.
19 Posted by mark knobil at 12/01/09 12:46 PM
Just because a few of them in Washington 'seem' to be for us, face it. They are all in bed with the banks.
20 Posted by charles mccomb at 12/01/09 12:56 PM
Don't carry a balance ... just don't.
Consolidate under a home equity loan, or even a straight commercial loan if you are a renter to get out from under your card.
You could even contact your neighborhood loan shark ... whats the differance?
Just say no.
21 Posted by RWC at 12/01/09 01:11 PM
People need help. It is high time big business stopped running the Government and the people took it back. If the ballot says incumbent, vote for the opposition and keep this up till they all get the point. We have the power if we will just choose to use it. VOTE
22 Posted by Pat at 12/01/09 01:35 PM
This is what I had to say to the bankster 'CEOs':
And as for me personally, the more you RAISE your already ridiculous rates on my credit cards, the LESS I am going to use them. Credit cards are nice for specific emergencies or special events but they are not the backbone of my financial 'life'. So if you decide to cancel my card because I'm not using it enough - I say fine, go ahead. I don't need your credit cards all that much anyway, especially at the highway robbery level of interest you're charging me these days.
23 Posted by Dale Spencer at 12/01/09 02:27 PM
thats it for me! I have one and pay it off every month...now that one is going to go too.
24 Posted by Corlyn Seifer at 12/01/09 02:49 PM
Why bother going after the Credit Card companies, as usual a congressman or two is playing the game of "what's in it for me or someone I know personally" ? Support for Congress is at an all time low of near 25%.. Throw those numbers in with the OBAMANIACS and you got yourself a trough full of pork bellies.....
25 Posted by Randolph Vance at 12/01/09 02:57 PM
Since my credit card company charged me interest of 27% and a late charge (including recent purchases)when the due date fell on a holiday, I am charging my purchases to my other credit card and letting my old card pickup a couple of small monthly charges. I make it a point to pay off my credit card bills every month so I will have to say my old credit card company has enraged me.
26 Posted by Suzanne at 12/01/09 04:34 PM
I do believe that I might reach the point of never voting for another Republican. Because of credit card bait and switch.Also over the natioal healthcare bill.Immoral to the poor with usury and no good Samaritans.
27 Posted by Jo at 12/01/09 05:11 PM
We can go back to the Trickle Down theory (voodoo economics) and thank Reagan for this. Deregulation is good, he said, corporations will make more money and we'll all get some. We can see what deregulation got us. No thanks.
28 Posted by mike brenner at 12/01/09 05:19 PM
I believe the Government should provide low interest, fixed rate loans to people so we can pay off our cards. Then with the money we are saving we can put money back into the economy by buying things like high priced gas and perhaps a few groceries. Too bad none of them have to try and survive in Michigan's economy.
29 Posted by CMarPA at 12/01/09 05:31 PM
Apparently our elected senators and congressman are bought and paid for by these banks. Forget who elected you ? Vote them out. Stop the greed and corruption !
30 Posted by Barry at 12/01/09 06:07 PM
I can't believe how the American Consumer is being bulied by the credit cards companies so they can pad their pockets. They like to state that their profits benefit every stockholder - I say nonsensence. They are common Loan Sharks but instead of breaking legs, they do it more slowly by bleeding consumers to death. Their dirty business practices is directed at the middle class & low income Americans! They make their big profits on the backs of hard working American's by pirating credit card accounts with ridiculous rate increases. Mine rose to 30 percent! 30 percent! I wish to say to all of the decision makers "you reap what you sow". How can our country allow itself to degenerate to allowing loan sharking? I find the entire credit card business totally UNamerican and consumer TERRORISM. I say we should declar WAR on the credit card companies. It's time to end their "criminal" practices although they have already sucked most of us dry! I find them lowest of the low just above animal abusers & those who commit crimes on the elderly.
31 Posted by DMM at 12/01/09 07:40 PM
I believe that credit cards are a good offering for banks and individuals when used in moderation. Banks need to be governed to control their apparent addiction to usury and perhaps people need to be governed to control the amount of credit that they maintain. Yes, I also think politicians appear to have an addiction to lobbyist influence.
I think it is good that there is a bill that will eventually control banks again, it would be better if it were sooner. It is too bad that it is not coupled with limits on the credit/income ratio for individuals. Perhaps banks would feel more need to control themselves if we didn't depend on individuals to cut up their credit cards, but instead limited the market the banks were after.
32 Posted by ScreamerNYC at 12/01/09 08:35 PM
We really do have the power. It would be hard, but if we only charge what we can pay off every month, they won't make a penny on us. I have been using credit cards for over 30 years. I monitor them closely and i use their money for 25-30 days. I never charge more than I can pay and pay them in full every month. I make sure the payments get to them on time. I have never paid a penalty or paid them a dime in interest. They hate me. boo hoo. i just wish they would stop sending me all the solicitations. what a waste of trees.
33 Posted by YellowRose at 12/01/09 09:46 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with Minerva Novoa that we should stop using credit cards this Christmas season. In fact, I'm planning to go one step further, and I invite everyone to join my boycott... I will not be purchasing any gifts at all this holiday season. This way I will not only "stick it to" the credit card companies and banks, but retailer, manufacturers and distributors as well. This may also increase unemployment as retail clerks, production workers in factories, distribution personnel and expedited delivery companies will be forced to reduce their workforces, but it's the ultimate way to punish Barack Obama for his idiotic and meaningless stimulus bill that was supposed to create or save millions of "shovel ready jobs." In the words of the great Joe Biden, our most important priority is a three letter word: J - O - B - S!!!
34 Posted by Paul at 12/01/09 11:01 PM
Wake up, Americans! We have lost our country. The greed, corruption, and immoral abuses of Corporate America have spread like a cancer. Is it terminal? Perhaps, but we have GOT to demand that the sellouts in the Senate and House are held accountable. They incense people with Limbaugh Lunacies that warn of dire consequences, if we make any effort to force the corporate thieves to cease their rape of the people! Get real, folks. We are losing ground daily!
35 Posted by Mary Kelly at 12/02/09 02:52 AM
Dear Senator, I am sorry you think that the banks and credit card companies should have free reign to arbitrarily raise credit card rates or make the higher rates retroactive. It is very disappointing to me, at 74 years of age, to have to scrimp to get by while others are milking me dry. I put 30 years in the public education classroom thinking I was making a worthwhile contribution to society, while fat cats have been screwing me and my retirement over. You have given them license to screw me more. Thank you not.
36 Posted by Steve Santucci at 12/02/09 04:45 AM
This is wrong.When these self serving politicians come up for re-election I hope that everyone remembers how they worked for themselves and not the people that they were put in office to represent. Vote them out. This is just more abuse of their offices
37 Posted by Mark McCullough at 12/02/09 07:31 AM
I think that banks are these absurd rates and fees. The fees have increased through the roof over the last 5-10 years. Interest rates have gone up and banks have rewarded there executive with billions of dollars in bonuses and pay increases. It is time to regulate these banks to make them fair and honest. What is wrong with that? More people should do what I do use the credit card and pay for what I buy, and then you pay no interest. I have not paid interest in the last 6 years and have gotten thousands of points which have given used and received free stay at hotels and free dinner and cash.
38 Posted by Jo Oliver at 12/02/09 10:48 AM
Term Limits???
Vote no to INCUMBENTS; everyone,everywhere,every time.
39 Posted by Susan Curtis at 12/02/09 11:48 AM
-I am so sick and tired of peoples' greed that has brought us to many, if not all, of the situations we have today.
40 Posted by Wini Salta at 12/02/09 01:13 PM
It is obvious whose interests our elected officials represent. It is NOT the american people.
41 Posted by Don Puckett at 12/03/09 12:03 PM
J signed the letter to the CEO's of the big banks issuing credit cards. I must a't sk, however, wouldn't our efforts be more useful if we expressed outrage to the senator blocking the bill and his supporters and Republican leadership. Let's ask them to be part of the solution or get out of the way.
42 Posted by Carole at 12/03/09 08:51 PM
No one love the nation more than I, but it is time for Americans to stop using those devises that have made pee-ons the consumers of junk. The Banksters, Gangsters, Racketeers, and Congressmen have made a sham of this nation. It doesn't matter where you look corruption has become the norm. Congress has become an over flowing outhouse, chocking off democracy. We are no long heard unless we stand up and demand liberty and justice for all! Congressmen become rich off the back of the working class by bending over for the lobbyists who in fact run this nation today. The answer is that we stop using our credit cards when we can, think before you put out that credit card!!! Write checks when you can. If we stopped being pee-ons everyday of our lives we could move Congress to kiss our butts instead of those in the corporate world. My family has started using our Credit Union Debit cards, or writing checks. Many of our friends and neighbors are also joining us in making a difference. We can do this but we need America to stand up with us and be counted at the bank, and in the voting booth.
Greed is like alcoholism, enough is never enough.
43 Posted by Jerroll Kent at 12/04/09 07:50 AM
Thanks guys for all of the recommendations. I choose to cancel my credit card ( a member since 1982). I'll use my debit card from now on.
44 Posted by Trace Walton at 12/04/09 07:50 PM
I think that we need a law that says lending institutions pay a %of their profit in education. Similar to the NO SMOKING ads and JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS ad. people have short memories and NEED to be reminded over and over not to spend what they don't have. It should be handled by an independent non-profit organization.
45 Posted by John Marts at 12/04/09 11:10 PM
Pulling in the reins of the banks and credit card companies 3 or 4 years ago probably would have reduced many of the foreclosures and loss of credit stability of hard working americans, and loss of so many jobs. But lets face facts--many of us, just found it to easy to "put it on the card". I am as guilty as the next person. Time to grow up people. We had our fun, buying things that we really didn't need, going on vacations and cruises etc. and worry about the cost tomorrow. Tomorrow is here. As long as we allow the credit card companies to screw us--they will. Hit them in the wallet for a change and show some restraint. Cut up those cards. When you get the letter informing you of "changes to your credit card agreement" sit down and write a letter telling them NO THANK YOU. My husband and I have started paying cash for everything and it is a wonderful feeling. Maybe our parents were right. You don't need everything you see. What a concept!!!!!
46 Posted by Barbara Freitag at 12/05/09 08:37 AM
Write your Senators.
Request an explanation as to the Rule that required a Unanimous
Consent in this day of constant "bickering politics."
Ask for a change in the Rules.
Work to go "Credit Card Free".
Bring back a Federal Usury Law that trumps the Banks.
Bank with Small Banks. Are we Sorry that they got themselves into this mess? Not here. Let them, and reinsurers, bail themselves out, or fail. We are alllosing our retirement funds to Inflation anyway.
47 Posted by Teresa Dove at 12/05/09 09:36 AM
I'd like to know the name of the senator who blocked the freeze. I wonder what he got for his decline. I am disgusted by the lack of recognition of the people who have lost money and are being treated like it was everyone's fault. We faithfully paid our bills, live a conservative life, and lost much of our retirement fund have suffered enough. I find this to be a cold, uncaring nation.
48 Posted by Harald West at 12/06/09 05:49 AM
Let's all remember that by voting against incumbents every time, we are also voting against good public servants. Term limits would get rid of the "bad" senator that blocked the bill, but also the "good" senators that worked so hard to get it passed. Term limits is a bad idea -- it limits our freedom to vote for who we think is the best candidate. A better idea is campaign finance reform -- if politicians weren't forced to spend a large amount of time campaigning for the next term, they would get more done, and be more responsive to the voters. Even politicians with the best of intentions have to get elected in order to "do good" --let's free them from the burden of having to raise enormous amounts of cash in order to get elected.
49 Posted by E Becks at 12/06/09 06:15 AM
While I think the actions of the credit card companies are pretty short-sighted there are some things to keep in mind here...no one forced anyone to sign up for a credit card. There are plenty of people who live their lives without one. If you read the fine print on any of those offers it says that the terms and conditions are subject to change at any time...so if you didn't want to get screwed you should not have opened the account under those terms! It is not the government's job to protect people from their own short-sightedness.
The fact is that none of this would be happening if this stupid Card act hadn't been passed to begin with...Congress is under the mistaken impression by punishing 'Big Business' they are doing the little guy a favor...when just the opposite is true. Corporations COLLECT taxes and fees...there has never been a case when they paid it out of their own pocket...it always comes from the consumer in the end!
50 Posted by Steve at 12/06/09 06:29 AM
OMG We are allowing the unconscienable greed of an elite few take our country, our people for a bankrupt ride. Every CEO, CFO and Inner Circle of every major corporation has raped this country and our people of all their wealth. Whether it is the equity in their homes, or the balances of their retirement accounts, it has been allowed to happen with little, to no, recourse. Sure some have been prosecuted, but there are a few hundred more that should be in jail right now for the atrocities they have committed. This is not just something that is new, but where does it end. It is not enough to rob the average American of what little they have worked for, but now they have to take the rest. This mess had been building up since at least Enron and MCI, and we still have allowed the greed and unaccountability to continue on the same path. When are we going to wake up and tell these publicly held corporations, and Wallstreet, that there will be accountability. I am not for Big Brother telling business how to conduct business, but this is not business, this is plain old extortion of the American people. They have made us addicted to consuming beyond our means, and now that they have us, they don't want to let us go by charging us such extraordinary interest rates, that the balances won't be paid off in our life time. I say we not only stop using the credit cards, but stop paying the balances. Just like 1 out 4 people will have a foreclosure on their credit report, 33% or more of Americans will have Bad Debt, or bankruptcy on their credit report....all stigma will be gone. I am tapped out my friends. The elite few have everything I had and more...when there is no more to give, what will they prey on next?
51 Posted by John Worthy at 12/06/09 08:27 AM
I and my small business will NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY CREDIT CARD WHATSOEVER! From now on I will offer to accept payments AT NO INTEREST to loyal customers that are unable to pay in full at the time of service. For customers that this is not feasible I will accept "payment in kind", in other words, I will accept some service I need as payment for the service YOU need.
People, people, people! It's time to go "old shcool" on these modern-day Loan-Sharks! Where ever possible Work out a deal YOURSELF just like our grandparents did before credit cards!
52 Posted by LuigiUsa at 12/06/09 08:33 AM
Why does it seem that bills aimed at protecting the public are objected by the Republicans? Is it that big business gives you more campaign donations than the workers can afford.
We need to retire some folks. The seem to have forgotten who they work for.
53 Posted by Barbara Mansfield at 12/06/09 08:46 AM
Voters send the message - if you voted for these politicians that are protecting their lobbyist and banking buddies - vote against them, again and again. If you ever donated money to these politicians take the amount you donated, increase it by the COMBINED increase of all your credit cards and donate that amount to any cause that is commited to protecting the public.
54 Posted by at 12/06/09 08:54 AM
To the U.S. Congress. "The People" put you in that office. "The People" can and will take you out of the office. You are there to represent us NOT big business. How about you do your job and take the bill out of committe and pass it so that it benefits "The People".
55 Posted by Pat Lutes at 12/06/09 09:27 AM
Since Feb. 2010 is, now, just around the corner and any attempt to change the implementation date of the credit card bill would be practically useless, Since the Credit Card issurers have not acted in good faith, I suggest that an ammendment be added to this bill making it retroactive back to the date when these unscrupulous companies first started raising their rates and fees. This would send them a clear message that their unacceptable behavior and that our lawmakers are finally starting to listening to the people who voting them into office and not to the empty words of Credit Card issurers or their lobbyist who have swayed their allegiances over so many past decades. These companies (with our elected representatives permissiveness)have shown that they can not "Police themselves" as they said, but will continue to insert their insidious fingers ever deeper into our pockets. It's time to put them on a moral, ethical and fair business practice leash.
56 Posted by Larry Lapin, Orlando Florida at 12/06/09 09:29 AM
I have never failed a payment to my bank in my life, but they had the gall to lower my limit to $200 from $6,000 (can you believe it?. They also raised the interest to nearly 20$ from 5.99%, and they did all of this without warning. I did not get notification until after it became effective. I was on a trip and charged my hotel stay ($840) and it was refused!!!!Mercy, if I had not had some extra funds in my checking, I would have been stranded in Las Vegas! I was never so shocked in my life when my bank refused to honor the $840. I should also note that my credit card balance was 0 (zero)! As soon as I got home, I cancelled my credit card, and had a "heated" conversation with the Bank Manager--not that it did any good! I have done business with this bank for years; they have never lost a dime on me. In fact, they have made lots of money on my 3 accounts!
But no more! I am searching for another bank, but find that they are all the same!
57 Posted by Bob Thomas at 12/06/09 10:04 AM
Term limits is not the answer to insensitive Senators who embrace "hard liner" ideology. This is America and you can vote these creeps out. If you don't you have no one else to blame but yourself. It's laughable how some bloggers are suggesting we vote out all incumbents. Face it folks, 90% of the incumbents currently in power are in favor of this legislation. Voting them out would be siding with the Senators who don't care if you're screwed over the Credir Card Industry.
58 Posted by Bobbie H Jerome at 12/06/09 10:13 AM
I think all members of congress should be sent home for 2 years. that way they cound not screw up anything else and the country could start to recover.We could then see how useless these senators and congerssmen are.
59 Posted by American for Common Sense at 12/06/09 10:48 AM
It is too late for me no matter what they do unless they make the banks pay us back for the outrageous tactics. They took mine one by one starting with the one with highest amount I could use and cut it in half,leaving 7500.00 to pay immediately and then the harrasment started. I was making payments,etc., but the rules kept changing. I am 75 years old and had to go into my annuties for a large sum of money. Now I have more worries since i have been diagnoaed with cancer. Because of how they could handle us with their tricks, my credit score went from 800 to 600. Another strike against us. I was an innocent person and doing ok until congress stepped in to late and then things became worst. This is a worry no one should have unless they were deliberately not paying their bills.
60 Posted by Christine Adomeit at 12/06/09 12:02 PM
When are people going to realize that REPUBLICANS DO NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO STOP ANYTHING!!! If the Democrats REALLY WANTED to pass something THEY COULD...WITHOUT 1 REPUBLICAN VOTE. Greed and Power have nothing to do with party...whichever party is in power...currently the Democrats who CAN DO WHATEVER THEY PLEASE WITHOUT 1 REPUBLICAN VOTE...is the one that is the problem. I love it when people scream about the Republican Party not caring about people when it was Senator Chris Dodd, the man in the Video who got a special sweetheart loan from Countrywide...the biggest crooks in the foreclosure scandal and are now part of Bank of America *anyone suprised?* and the man who helped block regulation of Freddie and Fannie in 2005 & Again in 2007 ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYz1rbB5V1s )( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ ), along with Barney Frank, Mr. lenders HAVE to give home loans to people who cannot afford them with poor credit and low income simply because it's the right thing to do and Freddie and Fannie are Just FINE (July 2008 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Yv7jT0TX0 ), who helped cause the ENTIRE foreclosure crisis by voting for a piece of legislation in the late 1990's that encouraged subprime lending to begin with. Who was the president then? Oh Yeah...Bill Clinton. If the Dems really wanted to help people why did they set February 2010...almost a year after the Credit Card legislation passed...as the date for this to go into effect? The Answer...they are in the BUSINESS of Politics just as much as the Republicans. Lawyers, Big Labor and Teachers Unions have done just as much...if not more...to destroy the United States as any business or corporation has...it doesn't matter who's in power...there is We the People and THEM...Both Parties are the problem...Wake Up...EDUCATE YOURSELF...WE Surround THEM! See the History of the Crisis Here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCTxZa9kpSI )( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs ) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63siCHvuGFg ) ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnZMGDG4k4 )
61 Posted by willi e martens at 12/06/09 12:10 PM
I have been trying fora long time to get out of debt. Chase recently placed a 30 % interest rate they closed the account which was never late and when I asked them to reduce the rate they refused. And now congress who works for us (ha ha) is refusing to help. Whata great country.
62 Posted by k. roessher at 12/06/09 02:04 PM
Why do these issues always have to become Partisan? Is it not more important to look at the fact that ONE SENATOR had the power to block a bill? Do these People (whether Senators or House Representatives) no longer care about their Constituents that they continue to allow legalized USURY by Banks and CREDIT CARD COMPANIES? Sad, very sad... And unfortuately it is not only in this regard. It also involves the car industry, etc. etc. and the bigest joke is Health care REFORM. What health care reform?
63 Posted by V. Solis at 12/06/09 07:00 PM
To comment #14, J. Kennedy. Which is it? We are a Socialist Communist country or do the banks (privately held, non-government controlled - no matter what bail outs they got FROM W. BUSH FIRST REMEMBER, and thanks to Reaganomics and the trickle down theory voodoo policies that have ultimately destroyed the economic structure of this country and decimated the middle class) control 100% of the country? Can't have both. Look up the definition of Socialist and Communist perhaps and turn off Fox "news" for 5 minutes.
64 Posted by Rondall L. Keplinger at 12/06/09 07:43 PM
Cochran must be getting paid well under the table cause he did not hesitate to object to pushing the effective date on this bill. In reviewing the video he didn't even let Madam President finish talking. I say boycott the banks and stop using there credit cards and tell the government to stop bailing out these big banks. Put those funds to better use!!!
65 Posted by M Harden at 12/06/09 08:01 PM
I don't think we should look at the crooks to long but the people in congress that overlook the country needs, but, are self-serving to themselves. I mean a good long indepth look.
Also I want them to know whose writing this as a disable Viet Nam vet who has been scrammed in every method they have available to them. I mean by the country let alone the card companies. That's where the problem lies. Money talks BS walks I think we should open the doors for quite a few of them who think they are untouchable. Then we can get back to where we were be deregulation. Just sign my name N O ! ! !
66 Posted by Roxanne Bachoua at 12/06/09 08:51 PM
The Democrats have 60 votes, out of 100, for those of you who failed Civics. This means if Chris-I should be impeached-Dodd and the other 59 dems can't pass a bill, it is their fault and not the republicans. The only way this or any other problem we have is to NOT reelect any of the 535 members of congress.
67 Posted by D. J. S. Don J Schrum at 12/06/09 09:40 PM
I would just like to say to our legislators that unless you vote for protection of the consumers in this country, you will be
voted out or dumped out of the office which you presently occupy!
To hell with the banks in our country who are giving us the shaft. We'll be taking our business to other financial institutions; i.e., credit unions and the like.
The banks and other selfish "American" institutions had better be prepared to be boycotted by the "American people." Any and all businesses that are dissatisfied with the generosity and the patience of the American people thus far better wake up and smell the coffee. We don't have to do business with you at all. Plenty of other choices out there and more deserving businesses. Your bailout is over.
68 Posted by Mary Brinker at 12/06/09 11:13 PM
I use credit cards all the time, But only for what I can pay off each month. The big problem is the i___ts we vote into office every term. We need to wake up and vote all incumbents out of office and let the new ones we will do the same to them if they don't work for us.
69 Posted by L. Gaines at 12/13/09 04:39 PM
I can't see how a middle class republican would aggree with what the rep senitors are doing in Washington. The term republican makes my blood boil because of all the dirty treats and lies they have used to mislead the American people. I also don't understand how so many people beleave what they are saying. Some of it is so rediculas, I just shake my head in wonderment.
This is just another kick in the pants that middle class republicans are not paying attention to. Don't they get it???
70 Posted by Cheryl at 12/16/09 04:34 PM
Tell your credit card co. that you will pay off card,at the old rate. Then cut it up. Do to them like they want to do to you.
71 Posted by at 12/28/09 09:09 AM
Am I the only one whose credit card payment never arrived at the processing center just in time for them to get an outrageous rate increase in before the deadline? Has anyone else's payment gone missing recently? Coincidence? I think not.
I too concur with being sick of the rape of the American citizen and consumer. I will not vot any incumbent into office -- NONE! You are all bought and sold and in the back pockets of lobbyists and greed is rampant.


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LIVINGSTON COUNTY, KY (6/4/12) – A joint investigation bythe Livingston County Sheriff's Office, Crittenden County Sheriff's Office,Kentucky State Police, Paducah Police Department, Ft. Campbell EOD, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) has led to the recovery of stolen vehicles and the destruction of dangerous ordnances.
While investigating a report of two vehicles stolen from Livingston County, Sheriff Bobby Davidson (Livingston County Sheriff) located the two stolen vehicles at a residence in Crittenden County. Sheriff Davidson observed, what appeared to be, several hand grenades on the property. Sheriff Davidson contacted Crittenden County Sheriff Wayne Agent who obtained a search warrant for the property.
A further search of the house revealed several modified fragmentation and smoke grenades, flares, guns, ammunition, military grade bodyarmor, an 81-milimeter high explosive mortar round, as well as binary explosives. Law enforcement officials also located approximately 26 marijuana plants growing on the property.
Bomb Technicians with the Paducah Police Department and Kentucky State Police were requested to assist at the scene and disposed of the explosive material.
Further investigation led the Livingston County Sheriff's Office to another residence located at 1079 Shelby Road, Salem, Kentucky. A search warrant was obtained and executed at that residence. During that search, officials located thousands of rounds of various ammunition, a M72 LAW (light anti-tank weapon, 66 millimeters), rocket motor and warhead, 2 claymore mines, several projectiles including, but not limited to 105 millimeter mortar rounds, dynamite, and other ordnance.
The Ft. Campbell Bomb Squad responded to the scene and after several hours, disposed of all the dangerous ordnances.
"The thought of these weapons in the wrong hands is very scary," said Sheriff Bobby Davidson. "Livingston and CrittendenCounty are both safer knowing that these devices have been properly disposed of. This is a perfect example of cooperation between several agencies to help make our communities safer." Davidson added, "I would like to sincerely thank all the agencies that assisted with this dangerous situation. Those guys responded at a moment's notice and handled the situation professionally and more importantly, safely." Sheriff Davidson further advised, "The investigation has just begun. Now we will focus on finding the source of where all these weapons came from."
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Royal Show job again!I have worked as a Pavilion Steward at the Perth Royal Show for the last few years. In the US and other places you would have something similar, but more usually called a "fair".
Unfortunately last year I put my back out and had to leave half way through.
So, I thought that they probably wouldn't offer me a job this year, but the Human Resources Manager phoned and offered me the job of "usher" -- lighter duties, easy on the back. It seems to be similar to what an usher does in a movie theatre. Anyway, looking forward to it.
Here are a couple of earlier blog posts on the subject:
Here is the official Royal Show home page:
So, expect my Puppy-related development and presence on the Internet to be considerably reduced Sept. 25 - Oct. 2.
Comments:Posted on 11 Sep 2010, 11:16 by Raffy
Good break for you!
It almost coincided with Software Freedom day (Sept 18).
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by the evil M$
"the Human Resources Manager phoned and offered me the job .....my Puppy-related development and presence on the Internet to be considerably reduced Sept. 25 - Oct. 2"
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Fall Fairs are Great
The highlight of this year's Canadian National Exhibition in Toronto was deep-fried butter.
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TX deep fried beer
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Is Southwest adding one row (6 seats) or two (12 seats)? Going from 137 to 143 total suggests that it's one row.... (I know, journalistic consistency is optional these days, but humor me.)
You are quite right -- it's one row. Doesn't have anything to do with journalist consistency. Just my inability to count to six.
6 seats additional capacity, 635 pounds saved by the new design. Assuming they sell each of the 6 seats which is their goal, each person will need to be roughly 106 pounds or less in order to acheive the cost savings they mention. If they are empty, all they will have are passengers with one less inch (which will be noticed despite the change in seat pocket design - I have flown Lufthansa), and less recline. If the seats were as far apart as they are advertiising, why would a change in recline be required?
More comfortable? By whose definition? Anyone who has spent several hours in coach with their knees pressed tightly against the (still upright) seat back in front of them will testify that the loss of an additional inch of legroom will make the already steerage-like experience in coach even more punishing.
It's a give and take. Slimmer seats and the mesh seat back pockets will give some extra space to passengers because you won't have the leather ones bulging into your knees anymore. Plus the person in front of you won't lean back as far so you don't have your newspaper in your face.
The extra space under the seat is a big seller with the crush of carry-on luggage now and everyone trying to bring enormous bags with them to dodge fees. Granted Southwest doesn't charge for checked bags. I hope other airlines consider expanding that space underneath the seat.
Why not "people platters" ? With those they could stack passengers in racks and likely double the capacity of each plane.
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Alas, I am locked in to United, so won't have the ability - for now - to test the new seats. But I like what I'm reading. Seat recline is grossly overrated, and - as discussed - a major drag on the person behind you. Paradoxically, it can make business/first class very uncomfortable. Since I carry only a small daypack, I always look to stuff it under my seat, but that is often difficult because of electrical boxes down there. And seat pockets are just gross. Ever see people stick their socks and used tissues there? Get rid of them, affix the emergency instructions to the (equally gross) fold-down trays.
I'm a frequent flyer on Southwest. Despite not having business class, the two primary reasons I fly them is (1) the roominess of their seats versus coach seats on other airlines, and (2) their frequent flyer program. Reducing seat pitch by 1 inch doesn't sound like much, and it probably isn't if you are under 5'10" tall. But for us taller travelers, an inch does make a difference. Also the article mentions "slimmer" seats. Does that mean narrower? How will that play with more plus-size passengers (and I'm not talking about obese passengers)? I never bought into the cattle car remarks made by people who fly Southwest because I can always get A boarding passes, but I'm a bit worried it's going to be more like a cattle car feel if passengers are squeezed closer together. Will wait and see. Their seats were the last real marketing edge they had over other other airlines. I won't be happy if I feel like I'm squeezed like a sardine on a 2-3 hour flight.
One more sign that SW is becoming like all of the others. True, they do not charge change or bag fees but their fares are high. This company is fat losing it's culture ad appeal.
"That's a change many travelers welcome because it lessens the intrusion on the person sitting behind you" ==What is overrated is this "intrusion"!!! Coach seats are horrifically uncomfortable for any decent duration--and the lack of recline on a flight over 4 hours is misery. Less padding is more comfortable? Really? They are going to end up with CO style seats. Tell you what--fly transcon in coach on CO and tell me how great these new unpadded non-reclining seats are going to be. Bring an extra sweatshirt for added padding--you'll need it. It is sad that the seats are so tight that DVT is becoming a real issue.
What an important shift in travel we are going through. The world is so wonderful to see and feel and eat in,
I am finding it hard to stay in one place. Never, and I mean never am I afraid to travel alone because people get
to become friends if you put your best foot forward and try to make friends. If I were young again, I would board every ship in the entire world and keep going from one place to another. Board a plane and stop at every
disembarkation possible. I want to live till I die and make it all worth while. sincerely, Pauline
Again Southwest becomes more and more like a Cattle Car. I wish all the other airlines would make a commercial for the Super bowl with a bunch passengers dressed up as Chick-fil-a cows lining up to board and mooing. Southwest sure likes to make fun of baggage fees and toot their horn. If I was a Southwest stockholder I would be a little ticked off that they just pass up millions of extra baggage fees on purpose.
In response to Jamie... there is such a commercial, of a herd of black and white cows mooing and stampeding down a SWA jetway. The creator of that commercial... AirTran Airways, who is now a wholly owned subsidiary of SWA. Check out the video on YouTube under "AirTran TV Ads."
The post is very informative.
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