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Earth based Trek show
There is very little SciFi on TV these days.
TV stations seem reluctant to invest in CGI heavy shows that are expensive to produce.
In that climate, I think a more Earth based focus would work well and lower production costs.
What I'm thinking of is a sort of a Federation "West Wing" but with 2 focuses - the Office of the President and Starfleet Command.
We might occasionally see some space based stuff - some incident or battle that kicks off a new storyline or shows the result of another.
The President Office stuff would mostly focus on diplomacy and the Starfleet command thread on operational matters.
Stories would sometimes cross over and intersect, but not always.
Characters though would interact - head of Starfleet briefing the President etc
There would be alien Ambassadors, political campaigns, interaction with media, maybe even a bit of family life of some of the character touched on.
Events on the frontier would often drive the story though we might not see those events.
Not sure about timeframe - maybe between Undiscovered Country and TNG as that seems like an intriguing time line. Relations with the Klingons still being fragile - the Federation still helping to restore Qo'noS (maybe at the expense of existing Federation members), why the Romulans cut off contact with other species (prior to TNG:Neutral Zone), terrorist groups etc etc
I think a series similar to that could
a)be pretty good
b)shed some light on parts of the Star Trek universe we've only ever glimpsed
c) have a realistic chance of being commissioned in today's TV climate
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They would have to call it earth Trek.
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Bunch of people on Earth talking about exciting stuff going on elsewhere in the Galaxy instead of participating in it? Can't say I'm interested in that...
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The problem with ideas like this is that what people want from Star Trek isn't the West Wing. If that's what they want, why bother with the sci fi angle? Why not watch House of Cards instead?
Space opera done right is expensive and appeals to a niche audience. That's just a given. The right approach is to find creative ways to address both the budget and audience problem, while still allowing Star Trek to have the eye candy that is expected of the genre.
One way to address the budget problem is by getting additional revenue sources. CBS is funding Under the Dome (expensive sci fi series this summer) by sharing costs with Amazon Prime, which will have streaming rights.
This also helps expand the audience for the show. CBS itself isn't really the right target market for any sci fi series (even an Earth based one) as CBS's track record of failures like Jericho has demonstrated. But add in streaming customers, and you've boosted the audience. Plus I'll bet anyone who's already streaming TV is more likely to be a sci fi fan vs. the average CBS viewer.
This is a business problem, not a creative problem. The solution will not be to change Star Trek beyond all recognition but to figure out how the changes in the TV industry can be used to its benefit.
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Set it on a future Federation colony that is very Earthlike in appearance, where Starfleet has to provide the muscle to protect colonists vs a terrifying alien species that goes largely unseen.
Not hugely original to say the least, but the best way to attract the largest audience - horror fans, action fans, not just Trekkies - while keeping costs down. And Star Trek was based on Forbidden Planet once upon a time, right? Time to really get back to roots!
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Yes you'd need standing sets - but that's true of any series - but you could combine that with filming in real "future-looking" buildings. Doctor Who for example has used inside of real buildings like The Millennium Centre and the Senedd in Cardiff for future building type filming and was really effective.
You wouldn't continuously need a lot of new CGI stuff all the time like you do on a space show where they visit a new planet or encounter a new type of ship every week.
Some of the political stuff in the president's office in the Undiscovered Country was intriguing, as was some of the Earth based DS9 episodes (like Homefront) showing Starfleet operations on Earth.
Earlier comment about Earth Trek - true, you wouldn't want to mis-sell it - maybe call it "Federation:For the Flag" , "Federation: Highest Duty" , "Federation:To Serve and Protect", "Federation:Prime Directive" or something like that.
Yes it would be a very different show - but it would be something new set in the Trek universe that shed a new light on stuff we've only glimpsed at before.
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Star Trek is about flying around in space and encountering weird shit. Dudes stood around on Earth chatting is the absolute opposite of everything I want to see in Trek.
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A show that explores the inner working of the future Federation society would be interest. The vast differences of the people, the diversity of the hundreds of species. Traveling to hundreds of unique alien worlds.
But a show mostly about the politics of the Federation? No thank you. That could a best be a rare episode, or something small going on in the background that we never really see.
I certainly wouldn't want a Federation government show, where the government is basically a Earth/Human style government structure.
theAre, now if you could depict a truly non-Human government, something that operate absolutely nothing like ours, that might be something I would be interested in watching. But even there it couldn't be the shows main/sole focus.
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Earth is the most important diplomatic hub in the Federation - it's at the very heart of everything.
All the alien issues, the morality plays can come to you as much as you can go to them.
What's the real world issues we're dealing with today? Degrading Living Standards, Terrorism, Rogue states with super weapons, failed states and political vacuums leading to extremism.
So much stuff that can be tackled in a sci-fi context
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Sounds like a real self-indulgence bore fest. A Trek themed politics drama zzzzzzzz
By season 2 it would have bombed so hard that they would have to resort to writing in an overused story line like another Borg cube/Romulan renegade with a WMD to try and sex it up.
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I don't see it working, some of the elements that politically based shows deal with have all been resoved by Trek's time so you lose a lot of that story telling.
Star Trek can work on the small scree, remember it was off the air for some 18 years as a live action TV show (DW was off the air for 16 years). When these shows returned after their long absence the audiance was there. So who knows perhaps in 2020 the TV audiance will be there again and high enough to off set costs. Eventually what ST had left towards the end of ENT run was it's core audiance, it had lost the mainstream audiance, who had gone on to watch other shows, maybe even other Sci-Fi shows on rival networks. Or the audiance had seen a decline in quality and switched off, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
So whilst we as Trek fans want a new show, give it a few more years and more of the general audiance might be saying you remember that TNG show wouldn't it be nice if they did something similir again?
ANother way for CBS to gow ith is the go-production method with another TV network say Sky in the UK.
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I'd be aiming for a 10 episode season and have the broad outlines of a 3 season run in place.
10 episodes a season is enough to both have interesting stand alone stories and to put threads in place for a big end of season storyline climax. The events off S1 would be felt in S2 but would also mingle with a new storyline and then the driving storyline of S1 and S2 would intersect for a big resolution in S3.
Keep it small, smart, well written and well plotted. Have a definitive goal in sight. Tell the story you want to tell and then leave it be.
If it's successful you could pick up the threads in a follow on series and take it in a different direction
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It could be quite similar to DS9 and that's liked.
Could be cool too if they focused on other species' governments too, intercutting.
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When asked about changes in employment over the period Q1 2012 to Q1 2013, employer firms on net said there was almost no change. Slightly more than 40 percent of firms said they had not altered employment levels. The remainder of the responses were distributed pretty evenly between "expansion" and "contraction". As you can see in chart 2, the distribution of firms creating jobs was almost a mirror image of the distribution of firms shedding jobs in terms of the magnitude of change.
In addition to asking about changes during the past 12 months, the survey probed small firms about their expectations for the coming 12 months. Using the power of our panel data set, we can compare the expectations of firms that took the survey exactly one year ago with their actual hiring activity during that time period to determine how accurately firms predict what the future holds and whether these hiring plans are indeed good forecasts of future activity.
As it turns out, the 184 firms participating in both surveys came pretty close to meeting their hiring expectations. However, they did tend to overestimate the extent to which employment would increase (or underestimate the extent to which it would decrease), regardless of how well firms were performing at the time they made their forecast (see chart 3). For example, firms that had recently experienced reductions in their workforce expected the greatest positive change in the pace of hiring, and in fact went on to report the highest actual change during this period. Firms that had not changed their employment levels recently or had changed them by up to 10 percent expected very little growth—on average, they achieved just slightly less than expected. Regardless of how well the firm had recently performed (in terms of employment growth in the previous period), the degree to which hiring increased or downsizing decreased was less pronounced than anticipated.
Small firms are reasonably good at predicting the direction and relative magnitude of their employment growth, but on average tend to overestimate. For this reason, it might be useful to examine changes in the hiring expectations index (as opposed to changes in the pace of employment growth) when trying to understand how the forecast of firms participating in the survey might translate into actual employment growth of small firms in the Southeast.
Chart 4 shows the hiring index of firms across four broad industry groups. In the first quarter of 2013, the index for hiring in the coming 12 months was essentially unchanged from the Q3 2012 survey, and significantly below that of the Q1 2012 survey. The only industry whose employment forecast was notably positive was the construction and real estate industry. Firms in that category have been steadily increasing their hiring forecasts since the third quarter of 2011.
The fact that hiring expectations did not improve in the first-quarter survey leads to another, perhaps more important question: Why didn't they?
One contributing factor that could be having a particularly large impact on hiring expectations is rocky sales. Firms may be less willing to hire if they are uncertain about the future or if they do not expect consistent sales growth. Indeed, by looking at the experiences of firms in the past 12 months, we can tell that there is a clear correlation between rising sales and rising employment. As chart 5 shows, half of employer firms reported a recent rise in sales, and the more sales had risen, the more likely firms were to have increased their workforce.
A couple of questions that arise from chart 5 are: What about the firms that recently experienced sales growth but didn't hire? Are they planning to hire in the coming 12 months? About one-third of firms say "yes". One driving factor in that decision appears to be sustained sales growth; another is reduced uncertainty. As chart 6 makes apparent, the sales expectations of firms in this group is higher on average for the one-third of firms that say they do plan to hire in the coming 12 months than for the two-thirds who do not. All the firms in the hiring group also expect sales growth to continue, with the most common response being greater than 10 percent growth. In contrast, while 77 percent of firms in the not-hiring group anticipate sustained sales growth, the group's most common response was lower than that of the hiring group: 1 percent to 5 percent.
Another factor that may be related to hiring is reduced uncertainty. Employer firms experiencing sales growth in the past 12 months are more likely to anticipate hiring if they perceive a decrease in uncertainty compared to six months ago. Seventy percent of firms that had a recent increase in sales and decreased uncertainty concerns relative to six months ago anticipate hiring in the coming year. In contrast, 46 percent of those who had experienced a recent increase in sales but also perceived heightened uncertainty anticipate hiring.
For now, the results suggest that uncertainty and rocky sales growth are negatively affecting the hiring plans of small firms and, unfortunately, that small firms are not likely to increase their rate of hiring in the next 12 months. However, if uncertainty eases and sales growth continues, small firms will likely revisit their hiring plans and the pace of hiring just might improve.
By Ellyn Terry, a senior economic analyst in the Atlanta Fed's research department
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Will labor force participation continue to rise?
The labor force participation rate ticked up in May, as did the rate of unemployment. As we have noted in the past, the near-term trajectory of the unemployment rate depends critically on what happens to the participation rate. So the question is, can we expect further upward changes in the participation rate? The answer depends a lot on the labor market attachment of those that are currently out of the labor force.
A few weeks ago, my frequent coauthor, Julie Hotchkiss, wrote about what we can gain from detailed labor market data about the activities of people who have exited the labor force. In her posting, she discussed the overall increase in exits from the labor force, with a focus on 25–54 year olds. Her work concluded that while people identified "Household Care" as the dominant activity for those not in the labor force, there has been a significant upward shift since the recession in those indicating "School" or "Other" as their primary reason for not being in the labor force. A supposition is that at least those that indicated they were in school would reenter the labor force at some point, doing so with a higher level of skills or, at least, with skills that are better aligned with labor demand. However, because we know little about those in the Other category, the future labor market attachment for them is less clear.
This post explores data on transitions into the labor force, primarily for those in the Other category. As in the earlier blog, the focus is on individuals aged 25–54, as retirement dominates the activity of older individuals not in the labor force and schooling dominates the activity of younger individuals not in the labor force.
One indicator of whether those in the Other group are planning to reenter the labor force is whether the individuals in this group are classified as marginally attached to the labor force. A nonparticipant who is marginally attached indicates they want employment or are available for employment. Also, they indicate having looked for a job in the previous year but not actively looking for a job at present. Using monthly data from the Current Population Survey (CPS) that are matched year over year, we see that the marginally attached workers do transition back into the labor force at twice the rate of all individuals who are not in the labor force, as chart 1 illustrates. These rates are relatively stable over time.
As chart 2 shows, a much higher proportion of individuals in the Other category are marginally attached to the labor force, compared to other types of nonparticipants. Moreover, the percentage of these marginally attached nonparticipants has increased from around 20 percent to 30 percent over the last three years.
This higher probability of marginally attached workers returning to the labor force combined with the significantly increased share of marginally attached workers in the Other category suggests that we should expect to find a higher share of those in the Other group returning to the labor force than we've seen in the past. But it turns out that this expected development is not what has happened. The Other group also includes individuals who are not marginally attached to the labor market, and their transition rates into the labor market have declined. On net, while the transition rate to employment is highest for the Other category (reflecting the large of share of marginally attached), the transition rate into the labor force does not fully reflect the increased level of marginal attachment to the labor force.
The group with the next highest transition rate to employment is in the School category, which reflects the inherent transitory nature of that activity. However, it is noteworthy that the school transition rate is lower than it was before the recession. This development reflects an increase in the share of individuals continuing to indicate that school is their primary reason for not participating in the labor force from one year to the next. And it suggests that the lower opportunity cost of attending school is influencing the decision to remain in school longer.
While these trends suggest that we could expect to see higher rates of return to the labor force going forward, this potential development will likely require a much better showing of jobs numbers than were seen today before kicking in.
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I have read that there is a new place run by a Canadian couple in Tam Coc.
Would you know its name/ contact info?
Trying to find a nice place to stay at and the French owned Chez.... does not seem to be friendly to non French speakers. Any other accommodation suggestions in the area?
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I think the place you are mentioning is Chez Loan. We just spent a couple days in Nihn Bihn and stayed at the Kim Lien Guesthouse, it was cheap, clean and had a good location in town. They have bikes you can rent ($2/day) and its roughly 20-30 minutes to Tam Coc (depending on how many times you want to stop for pictures, or cows you need to avoid). Actually had a drink at Chez Loan and the staff were nice, but you are right, they didn't really speak English.
Here's a link to our blog with some pics/info!
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Thanks for the feedback.
Your photos are great, thanks for the link.
You mentioned that you went from Halong Bay directly to Ninh Binh, would you have any details on that, how did you organize the bus, how many hours was it etc, as that's where we will be traveling from, too.
Did you have difficulties to bike in Ninh Binh- some people reported they kept getting lost as they were given a hand drawn map, but I would much rather bike at my own pace. Where did you bike while there?
appreciate any help
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No problem, glad u liked it.
Yeah, we took a bus from Halong city to Nihn Bihn. Essentially, if you are on a Halong tour, you need to take a taxi from the ferry terminal to the bus station (45,000 Dong). We were hurried into the bus to Nihn Bihn so I'm not sure if there is a ticket counter, and we were basically charged double what the locals were getting (200,000 Dong to Nihn Bihn), but the Halong tour operator said it would be anything from 5-10 USD, so we weren't to upset. We would've argued, but since we were already moving we didn't want to get dropped off on the side of the road. If you do this, go into the "station" and try to buy a ticket which should be 100,000. The bus takes about 4 hours depending on stops.
Unfortunately, you don't get dropped off in Nihn Bihn city. They let you out on a corner about 10km outside the city, so you need to get a cab (about another 100,000 Dong).
We did this to save time and arrived in NB at around 5pm after the Halong tour, whereas if we went all the way back to Hanoi and then took a bus or train we wouldn't have arrived until probably 8pm or later. Its more expensive since the Halong tour would take you back to Hanoi and from there a bus would be cheap, but it does save you a few hours travel.
The Halong tour operator said they could drop us off where the bus passes on the road, but then you need to be vigilant and watch for the right bus, which may or may not stop. I'd recommend taking a taxi to the Halong bus terminal to be safe.
It can be confusing for sure biking through the rice fields in Tam Coc, as again you are right, they only have hand drawn maps. We supplemented this map using GPS on our iPhone. Just load up the map of the area on your phone using wifi in the hotel, then GPS should work. Its a bit confusing, but as long as the weather is good, riding around the country is really pleasant. There is really only one general direction you can go for the most part, so eventually you will find it. At one point we were convinced we were lost and a local just looked at us and said "Tam Coc"..."Yes"....and he pointed down a road...clearly we found it in the end without much troubl. I actually think i enjoyed Nihn Bihn/Tam Coc more than Halong Bay.
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great info, thanks again.
Did you visit Van Long area or Cuc Phuong? I am trying to get a feel for how many days to plan there.
Based on your experience, would you recommend to stay at Ninh Binh or outside the city?
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WE stayed at limestoneview homestay.
Great place just outside ninh binh.
25 usd for u bog room with everything you need and free breakfast and free bocycles.
Look for their phonenumber at wikitravel because they do not habe a website yet.
We cycled around for 2 days and went one day on a bike.
We also visited van long which we enjoyed very much.
Ninh binh town is not really a place to hang out.
Have fun we really liked it!
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Hi Marijke
Would you have photos of the limestoneview?
What did you end up visiting on your bikes and was it difficult to navigate or did you have a map
I am trying to figure out the activity for 2-3days
Thank you
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From Tam Coc , you should rent bicycle or motorbike to visit Mua Cave. It is not to far aways. Mua Cave is amazing
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|August 1 2008, 11:09 PM
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Personally I wouldn't have found a Worf-T'Lana romance all that interesting; they basically would've just been trying to out-stoic each other. As for a potential T'Lana-Trys interaction, that could've been interesting, but also it would've been a little too on the nose to have a judgmental Vulcan constantly watching over Trys. Plus I don't think I would've been allowed to have two Vulcan (or half-Vulcan) women in the same bridge crew. That, and they have somewhat overlapping jobs.
And given that the majority of the human race is Asian, it's nice to see that better-represented in Trek for once.
Besides, after Picard defied Starfleet orders and saved the Earth twice in three months, it would've been unbelievable if the admiralty had continued to distrust him.
|August 1 2008, 11:57 PM
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I love the new character of T'Ryssa but for some reason she reminded me alot of Trance Gemini from [gasp]Andromeda[/gasp] and I don't know why, maybe because both were younger characters?
Anyway, great book!! Now stop perusing these boards and get back to writing. I know you have to be working on a draft of some future TREK novel!!
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|August 2 2008, 03:22 AM
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Could I pick up this book and follow what's going on? I know the broad strokes of the current TNG books, the ongoing Borg storyline, but have heard the last couple of books weren't exactly home runs... I'd like to read the Destiny trilogy, would Greater Than Sum be a good jumping on point?
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|August 2 2008, 07:58 AM
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|August 2 2008, 10:27 AM
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The first 100 pages of GTTS are half setup for this book, half detailed summary of the last few with lots of plot hole spackling and continuity fixes. It'll probably make more sense if you just read this one than if you read the others first.
|August 2 2008, 05:21 PM
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|August 2 2008, 10:59 PM
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That being said, I understand why the first third of the book was necessary, and I think you did an admirable job of cleaning up the craziness. It certainly would have been FAR worse if everything was immediately swept under the rug and never mentioned again.
The story itself was terrific, and as I've come to expect and look forward to in your novels, you explored a very intriguing and evocative sci-fi premise with the carbon planet intelligence. I enjoyed how "Qing Long" never spoke, instead using imagery and Trys's perceptions to communicate. The crew's gradual understanding of the entity was nicely done.
The slipstream angle was a good hook, and I really expected that the "big ending" was going to be the Borg getting their hands on the technology and zipping away. I hope this tech is returned to in future novels, but for now it seems the Einstein (or Frankenstein, I think I'm with Worf on that name ) plot has no direct connection to the main collective's new attacks. At least, that's the impression I get now, but I'm sure it'll all be dealt with in the Destiny books.
I'm mildly interested to see what comes out of the Borg saying they will "welcome" resistance, but at this point the escalation has become a little ridiculous. In Reistance, it was "The Borg attack on sight!" In Before Dishonor, it was "The Borg have an enormous cube that eats planets!" And now it's "They're going to annihliate rather than assimilate!" I don't think anyone wants to restart the "too much Borg" circular discussion/argument that happened in the Destiny thread, but that's my two cents on the issue.
I was suprised to see Hugh killed off, especially since a few chapters later his noble sacrifice turned out to have been in vain. Nevertheless, his last scene with La Forge was terrific. I was thinking the same thing as Geordi about the seeming futility and circular nature of Hugh's existence. Freed, used as a weapon, remained free, only to again be used as a weapon years later. Hugh's impassioned declaration about how meaningful his life as an individual has been was really quite moving, and it rang truer than similar scenes done over and over and over with Seven on Voyager.
Speaking of ex-Borg drones, I honestly thought Picard's reasoning behind his reluctance to have children had something to do with the alterations the Borg made to him. I remember thinking the same thing in "Generations" when he said "Now there be will be no more Picards" after his brother and nephew died. I guess his organs are just fine, though.
Picard's actual explanation turned out to be my favorite part of the book: the "Inner Light" connection. The scene where Picard finally broke down to Beverly about such unimaginable grief (a thousand years ago is a long time) was remarkable and perfectly in character. I thought of Patrick Stewart in "Sarek" and most of the scene came out in his voice in my head as I read. VERY well-written. I loved "The Inner Light" and wished we had seen ramifications on the show, but this was the next-best place to do it. The sly explanation about his "present" memories being immediately accessible to him after the Kataan probe severed the connection was a clever way to explain why the show didn't have much fall-out.
Overall, I'd give the book somewhere around an 8 or 8.5 out of 10. As a bridge between the previous TNG books and Destiny, GTTS gets the job done, while also showing off a very respectable "stand alone" story with some great character themes. I'm ready to see just how much of the status quo David Mack is going to shatter, and once again I eagerly await the next CLB Trek novel.
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|August 2 2008, 11:26 PM
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As for using the name Frankenstein, I sincerely meant what I had Nechayev say. I just couldn't bring myself to use Albert Einstein's name for a hostile ship. To a science-y type like me, that's practically blasphemy.
|August 3 2008, 12:50 AM
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Also, I felt the briefing scene in which Kadohata, Elfiki and Trys were talking about the anomalies and the constructs relatively soon after arriving in the area seemed like Elfiki and Kadohata were being dumbed down just to make it look like Trys was a genius.
It probably wasn't your intention, I can appreciate that, it's just the way it came across to me.
Anyway - read a bit more of the book today on the bus into town and it's still rattling along. I'm enjoying it, but the more I read of it, I just don't think it's a patch on Orion's Hounds or Ex Machina - possibly because of the crew shifting (which doesn't really occur for the main characters in the other two novels I've mentioned) which occurs across the TNG Relaunch so far. I don't think I'm really going to enjoy the Relaunch (I coincidentally enjoyed Before Dishonor, the first TNG Relaunch with no new main characters - but didn't like Resistance or Q&A) until the cast settles down and we know we've found our new main cast that we'll be following for at least the next three or four novels.
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|August 3 2008, 01:18 AM
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Anyway, it's not about Paul's lack of knowledge but his inability to recognize when he's hearing a joke. The point wasn't to paint Trys as a superior intellect, but as a woman who values humor and frivolity -- and who at least has some standards about who she sleeps with, in case her later activities gave a different impression.
Of course Trys is a genius; she's a Starfleet science officer, so genius should be a given. But she's not the only genius in the scene.
|August 3 2008, 03:31 AM
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The 3 things that I enjoyed the most about the story were the cluster entity, the focus on the characters and the epilogue. For me, a big part of Star Trek is about exploring new forms of life. The cluster entity definitely did that for me. And, I liked that the story focused on the characters, their hopes, fears, motivations etc. rather than just fighting the Borg. Even Hugh's Borg provided a great contrast with the other Borg and reinforced the story's themes of family, unity, and individuality. Lastly, the epilogue really blew me away. "resistance is futile ... but welcome". wow. There is no doubt that the Borg are back, bigger and badder than ever.
|August 3 2008, 03:36 AM
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I'm about 40 pages (counting the excerpt from Gods of Night and the "About The Author" pages) and this book has edged out Q&A for favorite TNG Relaunch (sorry KRAD!) and Joy Luck Club for Favorite Book in July (because I started reading it in July. Night of the Wolves is shaping up to be the Favorite Book in August).
I can say, with little doubt, that you've gone a helluva long way towards redeeming the TNG Relaunch.
Much as the Christmas party starting on page 333 and the month between the destruction of the Frankenstein and the imminent sending off of Guinan was "an invigorating time, a much-needed tonic after the crew's latest ordeals with the Borg", so too has Greater Than The Sum served as an excellent breath of fresh air, allowing us to pause a little bit (since, although it resolved the prior Borg plotlines both in canon and lit, was so much more than that, something that the previous TNG-R Borg books failed to become) and prepare ourselves for what is sure to be a most epic onslaught of action and information contained in the Destiny trilogy.
One thing that was most fascinating was the pivotal role family (both biological and chosen) played in the novel. I had been afraid that it would get a bit hokey, but that wasn't the cause. I will admit to feeling a bit like the entity in regards to fully understanding what the author was going for, but I think I understand. It is the relationships with the people around us, the interactions, the reactions, the constant give-and-take, that have helped define who we are and how we act and the way we develop and help others develop. And that family isn't necessarily two parents and a child. It's a group of friends that we can confide in, that we know will be there. Or it's that one special someone who truly cares about whether or not you're okay, and who's there to pick you up when you fall down. It's the crewmates around you, sharing a common goal while having different disciplines. It's all of this and more. And that cutting yourself off from all of that means denying yourself an incredible existence.
And I think that was the best part of the whole book, the theme. Oh, and the puns were great, also. (I liked the "piece of its mind" one best of all).
Trys is quite possibly the most fascinating character I've come across in Trek Lit. It was another awesome facet of this book.
I enjoyed how Picard went from a Never-Ending Sacrifice mentality, to the place where he ended up. The scene where he confides in Beverly about why he kept deferring the talk (and action) about procreation because of his experiences as Kamin is one of the most moving and profound since the mind-meld with Sarek, only this one was deeper since Picard wasn't serving as a conduit this time.
I will admit to muttering Holy shit upon reading the epilogue. My heart felt like it was clutched by an icy hand. I'm actually welcoming the return of the Borg, since that single message terrified me more than Q Who did. And I'm being honest.
I'm also glad the Leybenzon died, since I have never felt he was redeemable. I will once again comment on the irony of his last assignment being a starship named Bhutto, since the two that come to mind (Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Benazir Bhutto) also died because of their actions. Leybenzon, on some level, wanted to be a martyr, to die for a glorious cause (he essentially says as much), and the two Bhuttos are now regarded as martyrs (rightly or wrongly. In fact, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto is called : Shaheed-e-Azam, or The Great Martyr). I would liken Leybenzon's death more to Benazir's, since she willingly went back into a situation that on some level she knew she wouldn't survive from. However, her death didn't really lead to the possibility that Pakistan would be destroyed (more so than it might already have been). Even in death, Leybenzon is unredeemable, and really causes the situation to all FUBAR.
Overall, brilliantly done Christopher. You've gotten me ready for the Destiny trilogy, Over A Torrent Sea, and long nights without sleep wondering what exactly will happen to the Trek 'verse, and how recognizable it'll be after everything but the shouting is over.
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Other adventures after that led Fenrek to meet with Druknarr, a heavily built bounty hunter who wields a rather large, double-barrelled revolver type weapon. If wielded wrong, the recoil would most certainly dismember the firing arm from the shoulder socket which is why Druknarr rarely lets others use it. He's not obsessed with his gun, he'd just rather not have blood stains all over it. Druknarr and Fenrek instantly became friends and over the next few years, they would become best friends that would be an unstoppable force against any foe. This friendship led to Jesters' demise as he didn't count on Fenrek bringing Druknarr with him to their next encounter. The fight took place in another old, forgotten building where large vats of energized protodermis laid silent for years. There were observational catwalks/gangways around the upper levels which Jester used to confuse Druknarr down below him but out of nowhere, Fenrek clothes-lined Jester whiles Druknarr distracted him and sent him falling into a vat. Fenrek hadn't forgotten the effects of energized protodermis on an individual, he just didn't know what was in these particular containers. Jester was dead, a mere damaged individual. Out of the vat however, rose Grimmphile, a way more deranged and powerful foe who once again easily fought of both Fenrek and Druknarr before escaping. After viewing this new transformation, Fenrek decided to end it as soon as possible.
Druknarr enlisted the aid of Orezu and Bractu. Two other bounty hunters who he has been acquainted with throughout the years from time to time. Fenrek thought that if Druknarr trusted them then so should he. He would soon learn however, that Bractu and Orezu are more childish than a bounty hunter should be and that they see every fight together as a way to out-do each other in a sort of 'killing-contest'. Bractu, the more mature of the two, proved his worth to Fenrek in a fight where he saved his life. Orezu however, was still too childish to gain Fenreks' full respect. The group arrived at Grimmphiles' location but were confused to find his head glowing red, almost throbbing with pain as he let out blood curdling screams. On becoming aware of Fenrek and his allies, he began to transform as his head rapidly expanded first and then the rest of his body. The weight of Grimmphiles' partly transformed state cause the ground to give underneath him and he fell downward. Fenrek and the others ran back as the ground began to crumble before them and got to a safe distance. Fenrek tripped up partway and it seemed as if he might fall, but the ground stopped crumbling just behind him. As he sighed in relief and began to get up, a huge claw smashed down around him, creating an enormous cage like structure. At that same moment, a blinding green light came closer as the eye of Grimmphiles' new form viewed his prey. He was then titled Grimmphile Type-B with the B standing for Behemoth. Fenrek ran out as the form rose up so high that his head became obscured and his maniacal laugh was heard for miles around. A great battle ensued where Fenrek, Bractu, Orezu and Druknarr fought valiantly to defeat this un-imaginable foe. Orezu used his twin light blade to slice Grimmphiles' ankles and he fell in pain allowing Fenrek and Druknarr to run up his hand and to his head for the final blow. Fenrek used a new ability he had acquired to literally launch both him and Druknarr up into the middle atmosphere and then, with controlled movement, fall downward aiming at Grimmphiles' eye. Before Grimmphile could stop them with his claws, Bractu used his sniper rifle to literally shatter Grimmphiles' eye. Then the killing blow came as both Fenrek and Grimmphile, fists in-front, rammed straight into Grimmphiles eye and came out the back of his head before touching down just behind him. The mighty beast fell and it was all over. Fenrek, Druknarr, Orezu and Bractu were simply named 'The Bounty Hunters' from then on. An un-official name to one of the most powerful group of beings on the planet who weren't really heroes, they were just doing their job.
In the aftermath of the fight when Fenrek, Druknarr, Orezu and Bractu defeated the titanic Grimphile Type-B, The frail form of Project J-E-S-T-E-R MkII crawled from the lifless goliath and had to search for an alternate fuel source as much power was used to power Type-B. He eventually came across a glowing green substance which he found to be a viable source of energy and so immersed himself in it. The energy contorted him and he expanded to become J-E-S-T-E-R Gamma. A radioactive enemy with a potent fuel source, but he would not face Fenrek. Instead, the new foe would name himself Krozienne.
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So wait. they killed both J-E-S-T-E-R and grimmphile type B? great.
Yeah. Jestr transformed into Grimmphile who overloaded to become Grimmphile Type-B. So it's the same being really.
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This is a great story line! :D
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So wait. they killed both J-E-S-T-E-R and grimmphile type B? great.
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Very interesting backstory. :)
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System memory featuresThe board has four DIMM sockets and supports the following memory features:
NoteA minimum of 512 MB of system memory is required to fully enable both the onboard graphics and the manageability engine.
NoteTo be fully compliant with all applicable DDR SDRAM memory specifications, the board should be populated with DIMMs that support the Serial Presence Detect (SPD) data structure. This enables the BIOS to read the SPD data and program the chipset to accurately configure memory settings for optimum performance. If non-SPD memory is installed, the BIOS will attempt to correctly configure the memory settings, but performance and reliability may be impacted or the DIMMs may not function under the determined frequency.
Supported DIMM configurationsThe following table lists the supported DIMM configurations.
NoteRegardless of the DIMM type used, the memory frequency will either be equal to or less than the processor system bus frequency. For example, if DDR2 800 memory is used with a 533 MHz system bus frequency processor, the memory will operate at 533 MHz. The table below lists the resulting operating memory frequencies based on the combination of DIMMs and processors.
Tested memory3rd Party Tested Memory*3rd party tested memory occurs as requested by the memory vendors and is tested at an independent memory house that is not a part of Intel - Computer Memory Test Labs (CMTL).
Vendor self-tested memoryIntel supplies the memory vendors that participate in this program with a common memory test plan to use as a basic checkout of the memory stability. Memory listed here was either tested by the memory vendor or by Intel using this test plan. These part numbers may not be readily available throughout the product life cycle.
The table below lists parts which passed testing conducted using Intel's Self Test program for Intel® Desktop Board DQ965CO.
This applies to:
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