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Times Union staff writer Paul Grondahl and photographer Cindy Schultz spent months getting to know Samuel "Poppy" Baez, a 59-year-old chronic alcoholic and crack addict living on the margins of life in Albany. Find stories, photos, video and more in our special report, and leave your comments here.
Poppy's Story: A Face of Addiction
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Very good.
These are the great questions – ones that pursue us as individuals, communities, faith communities and society at large.
What do we do?
As someone who has been fortunate enough to always have a bed of my own and a full stomach, too full perhaps. I am also keenly aware of the thin sliver of a line between someone like Poppy and someone like me.
There is the rub – how do we see that line and put our respect in place with it?
Your piece was extraordinarily thoughtful Paul and you did not arch in any particular direction but that of observer. That is a difficult perch to write from, I would think.
Somehow I think it is essential for us to recognize the "Poppy" in ourselves and only then can we recognize the "Poppy" on the street. And then – maybe then, we can know what to do.
The rush to judgment will be easy. The slower road, that is a much more difficult path to follow. Yes – people who do not fit the norm are "strains" on our society, but are we to just throw people away?
As always, I am convinced that questions are plentiful, answers are much more rare. Thank you for this glimpse, I look forward to more. My compliments to Cindy Schultz as well for her evocative photos that bring life to your piece.
this must be a joke i have too foot the bill for these people it makes me sick to my stomach, how does he get money for his next drink everyday, oh thats right me and every other hard working person who pays taxes and makes the choice to get a job and work at things in life. while we waste money and fire police and ems services on these losers i could or your loved one might actually need that cop or that fire dept/paramedic or ambulance but they cant come because they are once again picking up one of these losers or some loser in arbor hill who is calling cause they got stomach pain, or foot pain. they need the free medical care or they got knocked up and we gotta pay for them. but the 50,000 dollar lexus in front of the house on first st that they paid for with what oh they dont have a legal job this whole system needs to change.
Sorry, sympathy for these people has run out. My fix for this problem would be rounding up all these bums and putting them in some kind of detention camp where they can either dry out or die. $26,000 per month of my tax money to "rehab" a bum who is going to go right back to the bottle and/or crack pipe once he gets out? Ridiculous. I don't want to hear about bums' rights either. Where are my rights to life, liberty, and the prusuit of happiness when 10% of my paycheck gets taken from me every week to fund this kind of nonsense?
It's sad to see people in this condition. Not all choose this way of life on purpose.
I think that although a very sad situation—– this man could have and should have sought help years ago for this problem. If he had then he woudlnt now be in such a bad situation. I know lots of addicted people that have reached out and gotten help….. it can be done. I for one am tired of people and their pitty parties….. everyone in this world has problems— deal with em.
Wow!! What a great story. I have had many addicts in my family and I see what they go through and this story brings alot to light. So many times you pass by people like Poppy on the street and judge them. I know I have found myself doing it and then I stop and think they are human just like me and all they are doing is trying to survive any way they can. I feel for addicts and those with mental health issues they are so often pushed aside and forgotten. I know I will be following this story to see how things turn out. Thank you for shedding some light on those who we tend to forget about.
He's a gentle soul and a kind person. He's a human being, like the rest of us. We all have our own faults, and my life, unlike Steve's isn't controlled by money. Apparently, Steve and "The Bamster"'s lives are, and perhaps that's THEIR addiction.
Now I know why we can not afford to maintain the bridges & other infrastructure of this "great" state. I have sympathy & compassion, but there must be priorities. Who is showing sympathy for those honest taxpaying citizens who have to deal with the fiscal neglect of the Crown Point Bridge, whose lives are affected because the State Legislature decided spending millions on crack addicts was of higher priority?
Just to add – the 10% is just what the Paterson Cartel is taking. There's the other 35% or so that the Obama Regime gets as well. And yes Amanda, I'm addicted to to the money that I have worked hard for. If a bum wants money from me, try panhandling. If I want to give, I give. It's not for the state to force me to give to bums. And yes, I am forced to give. Try not giving? Prepare to have your property siezed and be thrown in jail.
If there is a better example of why we should NOT have started the de-institutionalizing of people like this in the 70's and 80's, I've yet to see it.
Another well meaning government effort gone wrong.
#3—steve & # 4—bamster…i'm totally with you…i work my tail off to pay for this??????? Sick of it. #8 Amanda just because were SICK of it does not mean our lives are controlled by money…Where the bum might be a gentle soul and a kind person, forgive us if we dont want to pay anymore….you sound like you could be living off a trust fund since you have no money worries…a blue blood perhaps?
#12, how I wish. But no, I work hard for my money too. I was just feel that it's not the only thing in life, and I'd rather show compassion to people who are less fortunate than me. Less fortunate not only in terms of money, but in terms of support, family, friends, and love.
Its great to see more stories about Albany's detritus instead of stories about the hard working good folks who make a difference. This is why I cancelled my TU(paper). Maybe they could have a good news and bad news section.
Thank god this story is being written and told. Many in this country and on this post feel that people like Poppy should be put away in a concentration camp, perhaps a la "Escape from New York". But, what they don't realize is if they're dream did come true, they might be put there themselves. It's a slippery slope when we start to dictate who should and shouldn't live or who gets to be cared for and who doesn't. How about senior citizens in camps too? Don't they use up alot of our taxpayer money on medical care even though they're on death's door? What a waste right? Oh, in case some other posters of limited inteligence don't understand, I'm being sarcastic here!
it never surprised me to see poppy down in the park by the river fishin, but i have to say i didnt expect to see him in the newspaper. one thing i can say about the man is that although his life is a constant struggle everyday, hes never lost his spirit. its easy to become overwhelmed when you dont have much for yourself, plus you drink and use dope. just one more thing…1st time i met poppy…offered me a beer…good man.
I guess people like #4 never use roads, never drink public water or use a toilet connected to a public sewer. Stop complaining about a government that at least does something for you. Or would you rather carry your own chamber pot?
$1300 a visit , no wonder our taxes are so high , some of these people go 2 to 3 times a day, who pays for the ambulance , 30 days in Albany county jail , would keep them safe, warm and feed , thats alot cheaper for the taxpayers and safer for the down trowden
The story continues in such a heartbreaking and poignant way. True indeed, as many might bemoan, is the extraordinary cost of dealing with Poppy and those of his station in life.
It is as I said yesterday, easy to judge. It is also hard to walk in other shoes and simplistic answers – from either side, are not the solution.
While I see this through the lens of my faith, others do not. These are the challenges of our society. One of the challenges of our *culture*, which is currently a culture of immediate and small bits of information (read- lack of context) is to be able to simply stop and observe.
The space between Poppy and any life is probably slimmer than imagined and the space between "a free lunch" and detention camps is vast indeed.
i work in downtown albany , one of the homeless had a sign, need money for food , out of the goodness of my heart i bought him a ham and cheese sandwich and soda , he took it and waited then threw it away ,, they just want money for beer , after that they get no sympathy from me
Thanks for the story, Paul. I think it's overdue.
Did you ask Poppy what he wants, when he is in a reflective mood and can think about it?
My experience is that it matters, as far as helping orient things in that direction.
This is a great story, shedding more light on alcohol and addiction. Unfortunately, the person featured is the sterotypical addict. A bum. A homeless person. So many people don't think they have a problem because they don't fit this "classification". As a recovering alcoholic, I've realized addiction has no boundaries and affects millions–rich, poor,housed, homeless, employed or not, men or women, any race, any religion. Drinking alcohol was not my problem. It's learning to live a productive life without alcohol that needed the attention in my life. I am grateful for the 12 step program that I participate in here in the Capital District. Each of us has a different "bottom" experience. Many of us need the support of others with similar experience that can give us their strength and hope.
Several years back a newspaper from Boston did a very simalar story on my husband. He grew up on the streets, suffered abuse at the hands of his caretakers, turned to drugs and alcohol, lived at the old bathhouse by the river. He too 'just wanted to be normal' and ended up getting off the streets (for a while), earned a master degree, married, bought a home… he had it all, all he ever dreamed of. In the end, however, the streets called him back and then took his life at 48.
These people are part of our reality whether we like it or not. Most are there thru childhood negelect and/or abuse. Others due to bad choices. But all touch our lives in one way or another, for good or bad. "but for the grace of God, go I"
so far, the author has not indicated any desire on Poppy's part to become sober or stop using drugs. Yes, we all have problems and drugs and alcohol are readily available for all of us, yet we make a personal choice not to use drugs and alcohol as an escape. It takes more guts to face your problems and deal with them than it does to opt out of reality. I have more empathy for the person who has had a tough time and still gets up and works everyday and provides for their family despite his/her hardships. These are the people that deserve a helping hand. Do you really think Poppy will change?
Unless you have been kicked to the curb for whatever reason, forced to deal with the street on the streets terms, you have no right to toss stones.Been There Done that.. slept in Washington park freezing my butt off more than once, difference is, I got a break, got a job, STUCK with it for 42 years and clawed my way up and out of the situation. I know what its like, Im fortunate. Some people do not get the break, hence they are doomed to the life and at some point they give up and surrender to the street, its not pretty, but it is reality.
This guy has my sympathy, but needs to know it takes some "self help" to bust out of the gutter… peace.
Oh my I am so appauld by the people on here with the economy the way it is anyone of you could have that wonderful life you live swept right out from underneath you and be living on the streets looking for help. This is why our children are the way they are these days with no compasion for others because these are their parents.. This man probably had a job at one time and paid taxes but he has an addiction and unfortunetly that addiction has more control over him than he does. I would like to help this man in any way possible if it is bringing him a bag of bottles that I collected at my house to some warm blankets I would just love to help.
As a lifelong Albany resident,its good to see a story like this
brought to people's attention. There are so many people who live like this. I see it everyday in my own neighborhood. Like #5 says, not everybody chooses this lifestyle. This story is really an eye opener on how much better the overwhelming majority of us have it in life. Regardless of one's situation, it never hurts to compassionate,kind,and nice to people. Even if you can't help with their issues.
When you're done doing the annual "It's cold out let's talk about poor people" stories perhaps you'd like to talk about the neighborhood and its people without calling them waste at the end of a sewer line. I know much of the South End isn't pretty, and perhaps you might want to talk about the people who cause the ugliness of the empty, vandalized buildings and vacant lots that the city employees struggle to keep up with securing and cleaning out when their owners fail.
As for those complaining about the costs of caring for people living with addiction, don't think you don't also pay for the care of those who get released to their families in nice suburban homes. You do…it's just not as obvious until many years later when their own families have had enough and dump them… out of sight of their "safe" communities. I won't pretend people like Poppy are these sweet gentle souls with some mysterious spiritual wisdom to share, they are what they are, folks who get lost in diseases. We can treat people with dignity and respect (because if we don't it only proves what we don't have in our own character) but we also don't need to make cutesy folk heroes out of them.
WB, you have to start somewhere. If you don't have any compassion or the desire to look deeper to maybe find some kind of reality check, or "mysterious spritual wisdom" as you call it, then you wind up pretty empty. I like to think that I can learn just as much from a college educated business person, than I can from someone who lives on the streets. At least I know the latter doesn't care to BS me.
#18 Yes $1,300 of Medicaid a day is very expensive, but if you think keeping that person incarcerated is any cheaper, you would be fooling yourself.
That, and you can't lock up someone who did not commit a crime.
I feel very fortunate, for although I have battled addiction in the past, I have never been "on the streets". I have had the advantage of always seeing that things could somehow get better.
There are a thousand "Poppy's" on the streets of Albany. I know, I walk all over and seem them. The vacant stare in their eyes sometimes haunts me.
One self-help program puts it this way "There are those too who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living that requires rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average".
All of the people who have ranted about the "cost" of helping the Poppy's of this city are ignorant. They are putting the dollar sign before a fellow human being. They are the people who would beg for treatment for their child or grandchild if they got into trouble.
Alcoholism and Drug Addiction is a disease. The people who are addicted are sick, not bad. That is a lesson everyone would be wise to learn.
The TU is really going downhill. A story following a homeless guy? Really?
They do remember there is a war going on? Remember… its all over pages A10-14 – family and friends over in Iraq / Afghanistan / other dark corners of the world? I would rather read a story following a soldiers time over there to show everyone what an awful mess it has become.
As time goes on people are more concerned with dancing with the stars, american idol and Jon & Kate. Bring them home NOW!
Hey TU – when are we going to see a multi-installment feature about all of the taxpayers being crushed under the burden of the welfare state that has grown like a malignant tumor in New York and is exploding our budget. The same welfare state that is enabling this bum's choice to drink his life away at a cost ($100,000+/year); a cost much more than the average taxpayer makes in a year. The first installment could highlight all of the home-owners selling off and leaving the state because of the property taxes.
Since when is being homeless a crime. This is not the life "Poppy" asked for someone should have incarcerated the people who brought him into this world and then tossed him like trash. I understand that he has to help himself first before anyone else can help him but talking about him and treating him like trash is not what is going to help. New Yorkers are all about themselves until something happens to them.
I met Poppy last winter sleeping on the street next to the Port Tavern. Poppy is a very intelligent man and a very proud man. I offered to take him to a hotel and pay for the night and he refused, he thanked me and said one night wasn't going to work. He told me to be safe and go home and not worry about him he would be fine. I gave him some money and left. It's sad and I will keep him in prayer.
If you think someone on the street doesn't have the same character traits as someone who manages not to be on the streets you're sadly mistaken Amanda.
My point— as someone who lives on the south end was that I didn't appreciate the notion that this neighborhood is some kind of stopping spot for what gets tossed into the sewer. I LIVE here, and HAVE to live with Poppy wandering around stinking of alcohol and not always sounding so full of wisdom because other neighborhoods WON'T have him or others like him unless they can still be sequestered behind closed doors most of the time. As the weather gets cold and the holidays approach the newspapers start doing these nice stories about people who are struggling with homelessness and hunger.
Poppy may be intriguing to those who don't pass him everyday, to those who think for some reason being addicted, being poor, living in a less than pristine neighborhood means you lack education or intelligence. There's more here than people sitting around outside the liquor store – and I would hope the TU and others would realize that mooning over the sad stories of people like poppy, tossing some change his way, and handing out plates at the soup kitchen might make them feel good but it does nothing to get the people who run this city to take a harder line against the people who allow this neighborhood to rot away.
I agree with Melanie, but it's the way this whole world works. Everyone sits around complaining about what OTHERS should do. So, get your hands dirty and help out, do something. Volunteer time at a homeless shelter or another cause and EXPERIENCE something instead of complaining from your cubicle or livingroom about what the TU reports, or what someone else does with their life. You think spending money on a human life is useless? Or do you mean just as long as it's not someone you know or love…or God forbid, yourself.
This is a terrific story and well produced… congrats TU
Poppy sounds a great guy, and I have some empathy with him. He also seems happy and content with his lot…..can we all say that?
The story has my attention.. please keep up this creative reporting.
Come on folks. Can you actually imagine someone freely chosing to freeze on the streets and poison their bodies on a daily basis,being a target for ridicule and violence, having nowhere to call home?
Are you kidding me? These people have made a choice to drink or do drugs. This is not a disease, it is a choice!! People with cancer have no choice, they have a disease. Stop wasting taxpayer dollars on them. Find out what it costs each county in NY to provide welfare to these people, find out what NY spends on welfare saftey net assistance, most states do not have safety net assistance!! How many New Yorkers cannot afford insurance and qualify for no help at all?
I realize this is a series and we're supposed to stick with it, but it's taking a long time for this "story" to go anywhere. It smacks of the kind of special project newspapers come up with to try to win awards.
Well #35 you at least helped feed HIS HABIT wow you ppl are killing me here. you want to help a guy who has a choice to get straight but chooses to live life as a mooch. These people probably make more money then we all do just grubbing money and collecting cans…since they have no rent to pay then can drink or smoke it all away.
Why doesn't Obama do something about this?
This is a stupid waste of time, like most of the TU.
Again, Poppy's own words,"Where there's a will,there's a way".
Question for Poppy – are you willing to get clean and sober?
Does he even want to return to the day to day routine and responsibilities that make up most of our lives? You know, teaching our children right from wrong, caring for family members, going to work, paying bills, volunteering in our communities, paying our school and property taxes…or does he want to continue to endure life in a haze? Which choice is actually the most difficult?
Growing up in Columbia County, my mother worked at the Courthouse in Hudson in the 50s and 60s. I remember her coming home once the weather had turned cold and saying that the sheriff's dept had gone out to "round up the bums." She explained that this happened every fall when the weather turned cold and they kept them in the county jail until spring when they would be released again.
I suppose our hard earned tax dollars are well spent by giving to those who know how to "work the system." How many millions or billions across the state are being wasted to support fraudulent WELFARE bums. They're not homeless, hungry, cold, or without medical treatment. Are they contributing members of society? We willing help these criminals, but the homeless are disposable.
I look forward to the eight-part story on the positive aspects of the South End, such as the Boy Scout Troop that regularly meets and is on the verge of the producing the neighborhood's first Eagle Scout in at least fifty years…
(if anyone has questions about this positive story, please send a reply to this post…)
To # 23, Thank you for sharing, its the best post on here in my opinion.
I cannot believe how there is no compassion left in this world. Addiction is a terrible thing, it is a disease. Would you talk like this about someone who has cancer with no insurance, no support? Worried about yourself and no one else. Selfish people you should be ashamed. I wish Poppy the best.
#35…Of course he turned down a hotel room, he couldn't get drunk on that. Another thing, what do you think he spent that money on that you gave him?
I'm all about giving people second chances but this guy and his buddies have been given hundreds. Whether it be Alcohol detoxification, food, a place toi sleep. Some people make their own choices and in the end you have to live with them.
For over 50 years I've experienced thousands of successful tax paying citizens in recovery. They have accepted recovery as a progressive indidious chronic disease of alcoholism and understand that it's with genetic, psychosocial and environmental factors. For those that don't accept an opportunity of recovery they too could become another article in our TU. In NYS we have plenty of state and county assistance offered and we thank our TU for bringing this hidden problem to their readership. Fr. Young, Vol. CEO. pyhit.com
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wow…..the human spirit is amazing…
the bums do not want to go to detox, the detox system and its employees are in a way, dependant on the bums for thier living… they help create the need, they lobby for more and more "help" which equates to $$$ for them and no change or betterment of those they "serve"… we need to care for the least of us and do it in a non governmental manner… dont hate the bums, hate the system that profits from them
PS – too bad the TU stopped thier $$$ raising efforts for such folks a few years back…
haha awesome!
As a recovery addict, one great man who has helped many people, and who has given his life to helping people with there problems, is Father Peter Young. I happened to grow up in his parish, in a small town on Lake George. As father Young stated, there is help out there. But, you must want it. When some of you people comment, on how these people are just bums, 1st, you do not understand what addictions are all about. I know, I have one. Alot of people in life, from the beginning never had a chance, that is just the way it is. But not having a chance, is not a good excuse. We the addicts, and the word I use is to make that choice. So what I am trying to say, is that we can also make the choice to seek help. Believe me it is not that easy, as some people just give up, and that is the shame of it all. From what I know from experience, it is not easy to make that choice, because living in a world of addiction is easier for them. That is all they know. So it is not easier said than done. Unless you understand what these people go threw, do not critize them, please. If you ever take the time to talk to some of these people, you will see that they are real people. Take the time.
After reading some of this comments in more detail, tells me how greedy some people really are. Before my addiction, I had it all. I lost it all. But I beat it, and not on my own. I came back. Someone said, up above, that this person could be content with his life, from what I know, that is could be right. It is the only life that he knows. Whether you rich or poor, addictions WILL happen, and to anyone. You might say, not me. Well guess what, It can. One more thing, if you feel sorry for these types of people,then make an attempt to help them. Sometimes that is all it takes, for someone to at least try.
I am glad to finally see this brought to light. I have worked in a local ER for many years and have had the blessing to get to know many of these addicts. they are humans, with stories and emotions. It breaks my heart to see their treatment in the streets, to see them nearly frozen in the winter, burned in the summer and wonder where there next step will lead them to. On the other hand they are brought to the emergancy rooms often times not even intoxicated or covered in there own filth. They take an ambulance to the hospital and spend hours sobering up and we as hospital staff are left to wash them , feed them, clean their clothes and give them a place to sleep peacefully for a few hours. I often think that only if there was a place they could go that would do this for them we would not be harboring them in our busy emergency rooms. The city missions are full, there is no place to these people to go.
i saw this (MAN)a million times walking with a cane a few years back he may have addictions but doesnt mean he isnt a good man i dont care how he got his drinks taxes dont only go to the homeless they go familys in need i hate comments that are sarcastic despite what he does he is still human my brother was a friend of his somethimes peoples roads that dont have a turn actually take one so everyone try to love instead of hate someone whom u dont even know give a little meal to someone like the man that interviewed him dont be so heartless everyone needs someone
But for the grace of God go me,or anybody else at the right place and time.We can all sit in our warm homes in front of our computers and judge.Until you have walked in someone elses shoes,You have no clue where they have been, or what they have seen.God bless him and others like him. Thank God every day for what you and others like you have.God sees us all as equal,and loves us unconditionally!!
how many days is this going to go on….. TU – i know the news is slow but come on now. Write something on the people that get up every morning (weekdays/weekends) around 5 or 6AM – and dont come home until 6, 7 or 8PM from WORK – yes, I wrote "every morning mon-friday and sometimes saturdays. how about that!
I'm with Barnster, this is one of our problems in this culture. We put so much attention to those who arent pulling their weight, and penalize those who are trying. I look at people like this and become angry…within the same county we're talking of cutting or closing a nursing home full of vulnerable elderly folks who need that care. Meanwhile, able bodied adults like this are sucking up resources just because they're too weak to have some self control. It makes me sick.
First, these articles are well written, the photography is great, the story itself is one that obviously brings many different reactions from people. However, we may be missing something. Poppy's wife gave us the part of the story that must be addressed. Poppy at age 6, a difficult child to raise, hyperactive and possibly dealing with psychological problems. Hopefully his story will remind us of the next generation. Our focus needs to also be on the lost children, the one's who slip through the cracks of our foster care, education and social services departments. They also slip through the cracks of our communities…that means us, all of us. Be involved in your community, you work hard for it and pay taxes on it, but you don't own it – you share it. Alcoholism and drug addiction starts someplace. Volunteer if you can. Contribute to after school programs, teen programs, do whatever you can. Be involved in your schools and churches, vote for politicians who still care more about the communities that they represent than on lining their own pockets and protecting their own jobs more than ours. Be a foster parent. Educate yourself on what works and what doesn't. There are future Poppy(s), get them off the streets while they are young. Poppy needs a friend? Yes, but, he needed one a lot more when he was a child.
I am 8 years sober by the Grace of God. I have a lot of not yets. However, I know they are out there waiting.
There but for the Grace of God go I.
Is that really yellow snow in the picture the TU is using today, Sunday?
Obviously, this person has a long criminal history as well as a willful addiction history. Giving these people folk hero status and suggesting that the 'system' has failed is outrageous. Hopefully this is not the prevailing attitude at the TU or in Albany in general, although a look around town and at the prevalence of crime points to it.
Hey #48 Kudos to the Scout troop and the hard working boys & the interested adults. Eagle scout is a fine milestone that demonstrates a boys understanding of hard work, planning and leadership. It is a true accomplishment one can be proud of, not a hollow trophy that's given to all who showed up. As far as the first Eagle scout in 50 yrs I suggest you look to the history of troop 20 (met over the bathhouse on 4th ave.)some may remember the Leadership of Howard Klotzski(sp), Charlie Pabst & many others. I think you will find several Eagle scouts on the roster, some of them still in the area.
Thank you for the articles on Poppy and especially for the very fact-filled and scientific article on the addicted brain. I have worked in the field of addictions most of my life including in the first "sobering-up station" in the state(1976). At that time we were located in the South End in the gym of the old St. John's School. We served just about anyone who was in need due to intoxication or withdrawal and drove the streets looking for others in need.
I was fortunate to meet many volunteers, staff members and half-way house residents who had achieved sobriety and a healthy life, contributing as much if not more to the world than those who had not had similar experiences. It became clear to me that there is a small percentage of addicte persons who, for what ever reason, are unable to do that. Having seen the situations that #59 has alluded to, I can tell you that absolutely no one was having a good time, enjoying a drink and time without working. I am certain that in the next few years PET scans and medical technology will find the diference in the brain and chemical activity that creates this situation. I am also certain that many of your writers will not let facts interfere with their prejudices. Perhaps we can PET scan that some day.
I was shocked at some of the hurtful comments. People are people we all make mistakes or bad choices. There are many reasons why people are alcoholics or drug addicts. There is no easy answer or quick cure. Many people who have addictions also have mental illness. So many people self medicate. I have seen many of the homeless in Albany for years. The safety net program for Albany county should help people but the homeless and mentally ill refuse to apply. Just because you are homeless and have a problem doesn't mean that they are a bad person. Just someone who has a problem that they can't solve for one reason or another.
Where were you nay sayers when bush sent billions to fight a war with the WRONG country…You talk about wasted tax dollars!This $ is a drop in the bucket and may actually accomplish something…
i'm glad i live in an area where approx 70% of the bloggers on this subject understand the importance of empathy
Thanks for Poppy's story. I have compassion for him and I empathize with his struggle. Addiction may not be a choice; however, picking up the drink or the crack pipe is. There are meetings, rehabs, long-term residences for addicts, half-way houses, free mental health clinics, and lots of support out from caring professional and sober addicts/alcoholics who maintain their recovery. All you need to do is ask; the hand of AA is always there. Poppy is welcome in the rooms of AA and NA, if he wants to get sober.
I have been following your articles on Poppy in the Times Union and had a chance encounter with him on my way home from work this evening with my young daughter. He introduced himself to me, had a sweet exchange with my 3.5 year old, and told me to treasure my relationships with my family. I was really touched. I believe that he is a good person who is struggling with a disease.
Poppy is a good man.. he isnt the type thats looking for a handout. He chooses to live the way he does, and regrets the mistakes he just couldn't make better. He plays chess, reads, dances, and loves to enjoy life. He is probably physically incapable of the dancing or working a steady job. He has had a stroke or something like it a few times and luckily recovered. He had no use of his one side for months. A buddy helped rehabilitate him. Dont judge people you dont know, he didnt find the tu and ask them to do the story. He has pride as a man and wants to make it without being a burden on others. Give the old man a break. Your tax dollars dont provide for him. Some day he may just change your life. He did mine. He is truly insightful and wise. And yes he needs help, so be nice.
Thanks Paul for another great read!
You are a talented and sensitive human being and you have the unique ability to expose problems in our society that perhaps people so busy surviving in this world fail to notice.
The TU is very lucky to have you and with more of your great series I might up my subscription to "every day" instead of just Thursdays and Sundays!!
Marilyn… Saratoga Springs
This is a good and ineresting story, but it is moving too slowly and becoming disjointed. You are going to lose my interest very soon. Weekly episodes… not a good idea for a news story. Don't you want people to check your site every day?
Disgusting. What ever happened to only the strong survive? Why do we as a society tolerate these drains on our resources? $1,300/night for detox… that's a lowballed estimate.. and money that could be much better spent on programs that benefit society at large. I don't know what the answer is but enabeling these people to continue their incredibly selfish lifestyles is not it.
Maybe you can connect with the originators of "Lost in Woonsocket" (film) and "Random 1″ (A&E TV series) to take this story to the next level?
Addiction is a medically recognized, physiological disease, NOT a moral deficiency. Willpower does NOT work for addicts. Try to will away cancer or diabetes. People with pre-existing psychological or emotional disorders may begin self-medicating (to sleep, be happy, or calm down). Others are prescribed pain medication only to soon find themselves addicted. Once a drug is introduced, there is no "off-switch" in the addicted brain. That's the physiological difference between moralists and addicts! Think about this: your brain controls your heartbeat. You don't hear the brain telling your heart "Pump blood": but the message and impulse is there. An addicted brain says, "More drug!" in a loud way and the impulse is clear.
Not only is it ridiculous that we have to underwrite this guy's lifestyle, but the Times Union tries to make us empathetic to him.
Contrary to other peoples' opinions on here, it is this type of contrived news that makes me question why I subscribe to this "newspaper" at all.
Between this and the continued attempts to slander certain a Albany businessman, the Hearst Corporation should be ashamed of making significant cuts to real newsroom staff. It's left a gaping hole in the talent level at the paper. And getting rid of honest news to allow for this type of feature reporting is a mockery.
Its wonderful to see something original in the paper worth reading. Hopefully quality journalism like this will keep our local papers afloat.
Arrest his a** and toss him in prison for loitering. He'll be provided better food and he'll be forced to sober up as well. We tax payers are footing the bill anyways for the emergency services these bums are given. Get them off the streets and stop feeling sorry for them! Alcohol is a disease and by forcing these bums to get help in prison and giving them other than a cardboard box to live in, would better serve the community as a whole.
First let's deal with # 11. For the record, The deinstatutionalization in the 70's and 80's was started as a result of the discoveries of the Willowbrook Institution. It housed over 1000 mentally retarded and developementaly disabled persons. Many of whom were being neglected becasue of the understaffing and mismanagement of those who were there to care for them. Many others were physically and sexually abused by degenerate employees and other patients. Maybe you should get the video tape made by Geraldo Rivera in his early years of reporting. I've seen it. In fact, I used to use it in my training sessions. It is truly disgusting and disturbing. To see those people left to thier own devices. Urinating on them selves amoung other things. Showered with fire hoses. Yeah, deinstatutionalization was a bad thing (not sarcasm). This story had nothing to do with your comparison.
Now, from an ex-drunk/alcoholics point of view and someone who has worked directly with alki's/addicts. This is just one of many who have overcome thier addition to drugs and alcohol. There is a better, simpler/softer way to live. In every case I have been involved in. The drugs and alcohol was only a symptom of the problem. The real problem is the person and their way of thinking. Change the thinking and change the person. It's very simple for a complex person. Poppi and many others have the same chioces and decision that can be made.
While I have understanding, I no longer have sympathy. I offer one thing. A message of hope that there is an "easier Sofer way". But, many choose to live the way they do, becasue it is the only way they know and refuse to change. They fear what they donot understand. They fear the challenge, for fear of change, the fear of change being that which they do not understand or are not familiar with.
Everyone fears something and often refuse to change because of that fear. Some refuse to take a different job becasue they fear moving to another city or area. The same is true for the alki/addict. Giving up the booze or the drug is the only thing in their life, that has been a constant. It's like being married to the same abusive person for many years. While they continually hurt or degrade you, you love them any way, because they are the one thing you have learned or believe you can count on. The booze, or drug, becomes your lover, best friend, sole mate…however unhealthy it may be. It is an addiction, a love afair.
You will gladly give away everything you have/own to keep it in your life. WE gladly give away everything. Family, Friends, Cars, Homes, Jobs, and even out dignity and self respect to keep that high which gives us a false pride and false sence of worth and confidence.
This story is not unlike millions of others who have learned to live another way. A clean and sober way. I have never met anyone who has said " Gee, I want to grow up to be an alcoholic or addict".
Again, I have a full understanding of this series but I have no sympathy for my fellow active drunks/addicts. The plan is simple. Keep going until you are sick and tired of being sick and tired or have chosen to to stop using one of 3 ways. Locked up, covered up or sobered up. There is an easier softer way. Maybe that should be the message of this series, not one of sympathy.
But, until you have waled a mile in a mans shoes, you will never fully understand what it is like to be an Alki/Addict. It would be the same if I said " I know what it's like to carry a baby for nine months". That is never going to happen. BUt, also like many others who see things with tunnel vision. All they see is the "Almighty Dollar". I say to them. There are "7 Deadly Sins". Lust is one of them and it's not always sexual.
Yesterday as I walked down Madison Ave. on my way to work at the ESP, I had the PLEASURE of meeting Poppy yesterday. He was a gentlemen, smart, humorous and conversatinng with him, makes you think you knew him for years. I wish him well.
Alcoholism is a disease. To say it is not a disease shows the ignorance of some people. The decision to begin drinking (or drugs) is a choice and one that many people decide to make. I drink; casually. I do not have an addictive personality and therefore will never become an alcoholic but someone very close to me is one and while it seems like it is her choice to drink, I know in my heart that she would stop if she could. Unfortunately, to truly get help you need to 1. realize you have a problem and WANT to change but 2. get into a rehab program which is extremely expensive. Not many people have the luxury of being able to afford going to rehab. I do not condone this person from drinking and to be honest, I rarely have a relationship anymore because it is so sad to see a disease tear someone apart. I do know that one day this person will be at peace and there will always be haters. You can not comment on something this serious unless you have some sort of experience in it. I do not know Poppy but I wish him nothing but the best and hope one day he can just rest in peace.
To "Russ" "Bamster" "Steve" and whoever else would rather complain about their taxes than actually come up with a viable alternative to issues like this, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Don't like it here? Move to some other place where you can live tax free. And oh yeah, pull your kids out of the public schools, stop using public transportation, drive yourselves to the hospital and stop using any other public services while you're at it. It's funny, you can always tell who the fortunate ones are who have not had something like addiction or mental illness affect their own little "American Dream" from those who have been torn apart by it. Don't worry though, it's just a matter of time before you too have to rely on some form of public assistance whether it's someone in your family or even you when you are drooling and need someone to wipe your ass again.
I feel as though the Times Union could come up with a better story than Poppy the alcoholic. What about a story of a person that works every day to make ends meet. Or better yet a single parent that works a few jobs to get by.
I really enjoy this series. I looked forward to reading the next piece each time.
To those with great negativity I hope that the day you slip and fall someone is there to hold you up and go to the end of earth for you. Don't think you won't fall or someone you love won't because it is likely to happen.
I think this is a great story, To all those that want to complain I have a question have you ever had a loved one with an addiction? I recently learned the hard way that getting help in the Albany area is not easy at all, Maybe if it were it would be easier for some of these people to get their lives turned around. The Detox units are almost always full mostly people with insurance (that I have seen) and they actually turn people away if they don't feel the problem is severe enough, My question is why not take them early and stop before it does become severe. IMHO I think we need better Detox/Rehab policy's before we can even start to deal with what is going on with people like Poppy.
8 days of Poppy, give me a break……..his story is not new, it has been playing out in these neighborhoods for decades……every once in a while, some well meaning journalist writes some human interest articles…we read and soon forget (but 8 days)…….maybe i should cancel my annual donation to the city mission and send a donation to the "Yellow Store" so that they can continue their good work with the derelicts…… 8 DAYS and o n the front page……maybe you should try and put some news in the space…..
I knew Poppy when we both lived in the same motel in Clifton Park and have many happy memories of the good times we had. He is a man facing his own demons like we all are and his demon is alcohol. When he was more sober he had his own room and held steady jobs but his stroke as well as the abuse of the landlord drove him deeper into drinking and drugs leading to him being unable to hold down a job any longer. I hope that there is a program that doesn't make you quit drinking that he could get into. His problem really isn't giving up crack it's alcohol, I don't think that anyone who has been a drinker since 9 years old is going to quit this side of the grave. I wish Poppy the best with his life.
who cares? im so sick of this poor poor poppy and poor poor welfare people we cant get a job or support our drug and drinking habit. but oh look i gotta put gas in my 40,000 dollar lexus or bmw thats sitting on 1st st or lexington ave, this city is a joke the state is a bigger joke im sick of working 40 plus hours a week to feed my wife my kids pay my bills and yet almost half of what i make goes to taxes so we can spend 1,300 a day on losers like poppy or welfare ghetto thugs in arbor hill just so they can have babies who end up being fatherless criminals, make and sell crack thanks but no thanks for this story.
To all of the people who no longer have sympathy for people like Poppy – You are the ones people should feel sorry for. You people will always be part of the problem instead of the solution which is why we pay to much and get to little health insurance now. You are the ones who have collectively elected lawmakers that would not "spend your hard earned tax dollars on Health and Human services for those less fortunate then you, even though those lawmakers will continue to spend your hard earned tax dollars on special intrests that do not have a positive affect on the community you live in. The reality is that less then 20 cents of every tax dollar goes to Health and Human services program and less than 2 cents of every tax dollar goes directly to people like poppy. So as you all stand on your soap boxes to talk about rounding up all of these bumbs remember that without these bumbs a lot of you wouldn't have jobs. More money is spent administering ineffective programs that have no real measurable outcomes that relate to self-sufficiency and sustainability than is spent actually assisting people like Poppy. So the next time you decide to get up on your soap box why not complain about things like invaiding another country and then spending billions to do so, or spending over $15,000 per child to educate children who don't even have text books, or how the NYS legislature dems included consistantly raid the 9-1-1 tax fund to pay for such things as drycleaning and travel. Those are real issues not the 2 pennies taken from evey one of your tax dollars to help Poppy – Why don't you get down from your soap box, do some research and find out where the other 98 cents of your tax dollars go.
My sincere thanks and appreciation to , Times union staff writer Paul Grondahl and photographer Cindy Schultz for the Samual "Poppy" Baez story.
Let me first admit, I am not one that can be interested enough to completely read many stories to the end.
But I have found the articles on "Poppy" to be very captivating, and heart touching. I have read each part of the story with many emotions stirred within myself, sadness, anger, happiness and hope.
After reading another chapter in today's (10/29/2009) online TU, I eagerly anticipate the rest of the story to be published so that I can finish reading this story.
However, beyond your writings on "Poppy" I know that Poppy's story will go on as will the lives of those he has touched. I will keep "Poppy" in my prayers and hope that his statement "I'll never beat the addiction." is turned completely around and that he as well as those close to him can truly find peace and happiness forever.
I only wish that the whole world could read this story and make the right choices, before, going down a path of destruction such as this story tells about.
I am a person that now stays to myself with my strong belief in God, but have lived many years within a family that has experienced the same tragedies and more, brought on by "addiction's" of some within the family.
Therefore again hope and pray that this story will touch others before they make a wrong choice. And for those that have, don't ever say "forever" as, there is always another choice that is free if you except.
With my deepest thanks and appreciation for the writing.
One whom can relate
Sandi-October 29th,2009
Great comments #64. Regardless if you like him or hate him, Poppy is a real person like us. There is no need to cause him more harm. We just got lucky. The line between "Us adn Them" is a thin as the paper a paycheck is written on. Thank you for making us see that.
I think the point everyone is missing here is that the real problem is the alcohol. I know this is not a popular opinion to have, but alcohol is the single most destructive and widely used substance in our society. As a society, we need to change the way we look at alcohol. It is present in every facet of our lives. We cannot socialize, celebrate a special event, mourn a loss, cope with a difficult week at work, or even watch a sporting event without turning to alcohol. People talk about beer like it's the elixir of life or panacea or something. Look at how it was a key factor in the downward spiral that has become Poppy's life. We could all easily fall victim to this scenario and millions of Americans do. How many people have to die in DWI accidents each year? How many wives have to be battered by their drunk husbands? How many people have to develop liver disease? How many lives have to be ruined and how many Poppy's have to appear on the streets before we open our eyes and realize that we have a problem with how we treat alcohol in this society? For so many of the problems in our society, alcohol is the common denominator.
On another note, i am saddened to see the lack of sympathy in some of the responses. Conviction is a luxury of those on the sidelines and unless you've been in a situation where your life was controlled by your addictions, you really have no right to pass judgment on someone else. We are all imperfect because we are human. We all have our addictions and our demons, some are just more destructive than others.
One last observation: at what point did we as a society decide that money trumps human dignity and human life? We are more concerned about our tax dollars than what happens to actual people who happen to be homeless and addicted to controlled substances? I would like to think that God is more concerned with how we treat people like Poppy than He is about our fiscal responsibility…
Most of you people that don't want to hear about Poppy must deep down realize that
you could be in his shoes and don't want to think about it till that time comes…But when
that time comes you will sing a different tune…Remember…"there but for the grace of God go i"…….
Will this story run until Thanksgiving? Perfect timing to run this story! SO OVER THIS.
I don't see why anyone should feel sympothy for anyone who creates this kind of situation for themselves. As the child of an alcoholic I can certainly indentify with alot of aspects of the story, yet I will say that these people are selfish. They take alcohol or whatever drug and hold it in higher regard than their own families. I personally don't look at addiction as a disease. Someone who gets lung cancer and hasn't smoked a day in their lives, that I have sympothy for. Someone who drinks themselves to oblivian or smokes themselves stupid is just using poor judgement. What happened to personal responsibility?
to the people, such as steve, who rail on about tax money being spent on people like Poppy: be sure to save that rightous indignation, you will need it when you stand front of St. Peter and he asks, "Where is your heart, I look at the place where is should be and I only see a stone." You will be judged.
Life tough, the point of it is to survive and take care of your business. This man chooses to be weak and act cowardly. You reap what you sow and life if what you make of it.
Is that impolite and not nice? Sure. Deal with it.
This entire special report is meaningless fluff. Bums exist and there is a personal story behind every bum, whoa that's a news flash, STOP THE PRESSES!
This story reads like the final season of HBO's The Wire. The Times Union is running a story about the "Dickensian aspect of the gritty urban experience."
Good job at writing a potentially award winning series, but how about some solutions oriented forward thinking writing.
That's too much to ask, the TU will be busy for months harping on how "mean" and "bad" Joe Bruno is during his trial.
all you that dont like bums and think they are freeloaders need to shut up, its not his fault hes like that, yea maybe we shouldnt HAVE TO give them any money but still try 2 put yourself in their shoes, they dont want to be like that.
I will not even attempt to read all 102 comments, but I want to offer my thanks and compliments to both Paul Grondahl and Cindy Schultz for a well done look inside a world most of us never see.
i deliver soda to poppys old place of employment in clifton park. every delivery he greeted me with a warm smile and friendly greeting. he is a very kind man that i wish the very best to.
As I said in my previous entry. Ther is a simple solution. Don't pick up the first drink or drug. There is a choice. It's very simple. I nevery said easy.
If you chose to remain uneducated regarding alcoholism. That is your choice. If you choose to get a REAL education on alcoholism and addiction. Go to an "open" meeting of AA or NA. Listen to some of the stories…"What it was like, how e got there and what it's like now". You will see and hopefully understand more leaving than when you walked in. BUt I seriously doubt it. You will more likely hear it, think you understand it, but you will never "undrestand" it because you have never been there.
You'll be suprised at how many people are recovering alki's/drunks or addicts. Probably someone you work with, play sports with, go to Church or Temple with. Alcoholism effects more than most people can comprehend. This is international, multi-cultrual and economically diverse. It's not just a local issue and has litle or nothing to do with the economy and the situation we are currently in. Do a little research of past presidential administrations. The truth amnd more shall be revealed. If you are "Honest,Open and Willing". That's HOW it all works.
If you think you may have a drinking problem. Call your local hospital/detox. open the phonebook to the yellow/white pages or go to http://www.aa.org for a local meeting.
He chose to drink, he chose to smoke crack so, YES IT IS HIS FAULT.
Paul – you are an extremely talented writer and I have enjoyed the series very much. It touches the very heart of addiction and the hard life that comes with it. I look forward to the remainder of the Poppy story.
I work for a human service agency and spend evry day with people like Poppy. I am also a single mom in Guilderland that gets help taking care of my children by DSS. All the people on here talking about all their tax money going to bums need to open their eyes. I have taxes taken out of my check every week only to have to get help. My child wanted to read these stories as part of her class work and was told by her wealthy freinds that people like him are dangerous. I am happy to say that my children have compasion and see all people as equal. My children have met the people that I work with and understand that everyone is entitled to kindness.
#101 Not "mean & bad" just crooked as heck!
It amazes me that there are still people out there who don't know that addiction is a disease of the brain. #99, you personally don't look at addiction as a disease? So the worldwide medical establishment is lying and your opinion is valid? I guess depression and schizophrenia aren't mental illnesses in your opinion either. You need to get over your opinion and look up some facts.
Many alcoholics and addict have been helped through recovery programs. But as addiction specialists themselves will tell you, for every 30 clients in a room, only 2 or three of them will actually succeed at sobriety. It's a horrible statistic from a horrible disease that so many of you still think is a matter of willpower or morality.
I feel for Poppy. I hope that one day he will be healed.
I guess my first respone was rejected so let me try again. Regardless of anyone's "opinion" addiction is a disease that occurs in the brain. I'm sure the worldwide medical community has not conspired to lie about that.
Addiction specialists will tell you that in a room of 30 alcoholics/addicts, only two or three of them will successfully recover even with long term treatment. These men and women do not willfully turn their backs on loved ones; they are in the grips of a disease that has no care for friends or family. They are sick, with an illness that over time becomes more unlikely abate. It is progressive, and the further in it you get, the more damage done to your life, to the point where some see no way to turn back. And for those with mental illness too, it's even less hopeful.
I pray for people like Poppy. He is a human being who is sick and suffering. I pray for him just as I would if he were a cancer patient or an AIDS patient. I hope that someday Poppy will be healed.
Okay TU?
Take away his "Free" money and you will see him change from being an addict…. It's just a lack of Self Discpline. Why must this society "BABY" everyone… Whatever happened to taking responsibility for yourself…. This has nothing to do with the "gates at St. Peters" if there is such a thing. But, the fact that why should we all have to suffer for his actions… Suppose one night he gets very drunk and tries to rob or murder someone and in defending that person something happens to him. That person would probably be thrown in jail or publicly scrutinzed for picking on a bum. And there would be nothing but sympathy for the bum… and people saying "Its not his fault that his is that way". Well SORRY it is.
By the way a disease is something you get…. not a CHOICE.
To "Lenny" (#99) and about 10-12 others who I am sure believe the same thing, your comment "As the child of an alcoholic I can certainly indentify with alot of aspects of the story, yet I will say that these people are selfish." is interesting. I would just say that, as the child of an alcoholic, you should definitely be concerned that your liklihood of ending up just like the gentleman in this story is about 5 times more than most people's. You may want to read up on alcoholism my friend, and good luck staying sober, as has been genetically proven, you will need it.
I have yet to see the point of telling the story. You needed one column to detail the misery of Poppy's life. Stretching it out over several days borders on glamourizing the lifestyle. Alcoholics and drug addicts come in all shapes and sizes, and each addicted person costs society in some way. Most addicts hold down jobs and live fairly productive lives, yet both the addict and those around them pay a high price for their addiction. A better approach would have been to highlight the various types of addicts and how their addiction affects society. Also, you have done nothing to highlight the different forms of treatment that are available for alcoholics and drug addicts. We have plenty of people in the media today who make a living pointing out the problems with our society. What we need is a few people helping with some solutions.
I have been reading about Poppy, and if I stayed the course I was on, that would have been me, or worse off. To keep this short. I grew up on the Streets of Albany during the 50's, and 60's. We called ourselves "The Lancaster Gang". We hung around at Charlie's Hot Dog place on Hudson Ave. We just hung out, drank some beer, and held our turf, which was all around Lancaster St, and Hudson Ave, ETC. So many of my dearest of friends are still going, and most of them who haven't passed on, have come out, and made something of themselves. That is amazing in itself. We did not believe in work. I used to sleep at night in which ever one of Mae Carlson's Apts was not occupied, and I could just open the lock with a coin, or little knife. My food came from the doorsteps of many who had milk, and donuts delivered early. Some of us would steal the stuff, and thats how we ate. One day, a now deceased detective told me how he was going to catch me doing things, find me in an alley, and he described how the bullets of his .38 special were going to take me down. I decided right then, and there, that I needed to get a life, or mine would be snuffed out fast. In short, I left the City I Love to this very day, went to Jr.College, and had five children, and made something of myself, and all kids are doing swell. I come back to Albany as often as I can to visit friends that I care so much about, but had I not left Albany to make something out of nothing, I would either be hanging around with Poppy, or in a potter's field. Many have been down Poppy's road. Some can crawl out, and hope, and others just don't want to be bothered. Take care, Poppy. Maybe one day you will fight just hard enough to visit your family, who loves you very much, but you have to beat those demons.
This is probably one of the most powerful and moving series I've seen in a newspaper. The writing style vividly paints a picture of the realities of Poppy's life and the photos and videos add dimension and depth. Congratulations Paul, Cindy, Will and the other TU staff who were involved in what should be an award-winning series.
On another note, I'm appalled and disappointed at the lack of compassion that's reflected in many of the readers' comments. The topic of this series is a HUMAN BEING. What happened to trying to help those less fortunate…or, at the very least, feeling some compassion toward others? I think I need to add in some more volunteer work hours to the two jobs that I already have (yes, I work hard for my money, too) so I can regain my faith in humanity.
There really are two problems here; homelessness and addiction.
They are NOT one in the same. Addictions can quite quickly lead to homelessness if not treated, but not all homeless are necessarily addicted. I feel like they are being used interchangeably here in these comments.
As a person who has known many addcits/alcoholics in my life, I have noticed one common underlying issue: anxiety and depression that is UNTREATED.
Often this is from a traumatic childhood, early life experience or a general lack of faith in SOMETHING, be it religion or otherwise that causes undue worry, pain and even fear in these people.
For whatever reason, a chemical imbalance, a tendency to be anxious, these people cannot DEAL with everyday problems and set backs as well as an average person and somewhere along the lines are introduced to drugs/alcohol as a way to cope. This snowballs into using to feel good and then quickly escalates into using because its the ONLY time they feel good and then even function normally as their chemicals in their brains shift due to whatever substance they're using.
Addiction is a mental illness that readily turns into a physical one once someone starts to use to dull emotional pain and anxieties and depression. Think about the compulsive shoppers, hoarders, gamblers, collectors, DRINKERS, drug users…they seriously cannot often stop themselves. These afflictions are all related to dulling some kind of emotional pain.
I've been with friends to a few AA meetings and I've seen people clean up and become sober. This ONLY happens if they truly want help. AA and other types of therapy helps by teaching the addict how to think differently and to teach COPING skills to handle everyday issues that may pop up and set somone off on a binge cause they can't handle it like you or I can. It also teaches things that we have taken for granted, and skills we have probably learned from our parents in childhood that many addicts do not ever get.
Missions do great work for the homeless, and true, some folks just need that lucky break to get back on their feet. But addicts need more than a night in detox and a path to a job, they need counseling. We, as society need to do all we can to help the homeless who are down on their luck, and when the addicts feel they need to change their lives, they will find a way to a clinic/meeting/church and start working on it. I wish Poppy the best in finding a healthier life for himself. It is our moral obligation to not forget the homeless, it doesn't hurt anyone to give a little more to those who have nothing.
I met Poppy about 2 years ago. I am a Christian, and wanted to help him as I would pass him on my way to work each day. Snow, rain, sleet, and ice, there he was every day, and I felt guilty not helping. I felt God telling me to pull over and help him. One rainy day I finally heeded God's call. He got in the car and immediately scolded me for not wearing my seatbelt. He told me how happy he was at his job, and how important it was for him. I dropped him off at the beverage center in Clifton Park, and he thanked me. He even offered me a six pack. I kind of chuckled as I gave up drinking several years back. I kindly said no thank you, that my reward was in heaven. A few days later on my way home from work I saw him walking in the rain again. I picked him up. This time he had a black eye – a shiner bigger than I ever saw. He had the smell of alcohol on his breath. He told me that people were beating him up and were going to kill him. I feared for him, and felt somewhat nervous (being a young girl, alone in the car with him). But when I dropped him off home, he looked at me and smiled. He took one of my hands and put his head down. I wasn't sure what he was going to do. Then he surprisingly began to pray the "Our Father" prayer. I felt tears come down my face. A man, in so much trouble and pain, praying for ME! He told me I was an angel and that I should leave as the place he lived was unsafe. I looked up and saw a strange looking women staring out her window at us. That was the last time I saw Poppy. I since moved from my Waterford apt. I was so happy to hear someone giving Poppy some attention. Tell Poppy the angel in the car is still praying for him. -Donna
Steve, Bamster, Will;
While I appreciate your right to an opinion. I wonder if you would have the same outlook, if it were your son, nephew, daughter, or other loved one that was struggling with addiction. The thing about addiction is, it does not discriminate. There are Drs, lawyers, and engineers, that battle with crack and alcohol addiction every day. Some win some lose. We are damn lucky to live in a society that will help, and that has some resources available. Once again the addict may not take the help initially, but maybe one day he/she will.
just my 2 cents
I am thoroughly enjoying this series. Keep up the great work. What an insightful piece.
Good piece of writing.This can happen to anyone, through no fault of your own youre a child being kicked to the curb by people who brought you into this world. Can you imagine the emotional pain he had to endure at such an early age.Most of us know nothing about that only God knows how each of us would have handled that. Have a little compassion. Just think your tax dollars are paying for the leased cars of our goverment officials, the hotels they have their affairs in, the list goes on and on…..
Again, myself being a recovery addict. I have been there done that. From the comments I read,alot of people do not understand what being and addict is all about. Those people do not have to. Addicts do not want anyone to feel sorry for them. Addicts have a one track mind, to get high or drunk. We do not get up in the morning, and say, "oh, let us go hurt the people that love and care for us". It does not work that way. Addiction just happens, and yes addicts do create it. In most cases, once you become such a bad addict, there is no coming back. The addicition just sucks you in to a point of no return. That is the bad part. There was alot of mention of the word choice. I would have to agree. Addicts still make the choice to use. It is sad,that it is the wrong choice. I am not making excuses for Poppy or myself. I am blessed, I beat my addiction. It is not an easy task, but it can be done. You have to have the balls to want to become clean. What I see in Poppy's case, it is the only life that he knows. All addicts WILL hit rock bottom at one time and in many cases, rock bottom is death. I have seen it many many times. I only pray that in Poppy's case, his rock bottom is not death. He is the only one that will know when rock bottom occurs for him. Poppy, you and you alone,is the one who can decide when enough is enough, no one else.
Please if I see one more story about this Poppy guy im going to cancel the paper. Its on and on. Its bad enough I turn to the second page of the capital region and its the obituaries. Lets move on to a new topic.
Thank you, Paul, for writing this story.
To all the people like number 124, how about you just don't read it. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of articles in the Times Union to read. On another note I had the pleasure to meet Poppy on my way from my office to my car. He was very pleasant and told me my life was harder than his because I am raising a child by myself. He never asked me for money and was not valgur or rude. I never felt threatened or scared while I stood and spoke with him alone. Thanks for these articles.
Thank you to Grondahl and Schultz for providing this story to the TU readers. I agree with the posters who complained that it took too long to deliver the entire story. But it was well written and had good photographs. Unfortunately, many readers didn't manage to find some compassion as a result. Many of the comments above range from head-scratching to sickening.
Kindly keep the series going as it is alot better than most of the other news about the banks failing,war ect…At least Poppy may recover.I just hope the country recovers from what W did to it. (talk about an ex drunk)
Poppys story touched my heart. I know the heartbreak,the ups and downs. My son is 43 and has been an alcoholic since early teens. Of course it got worse as years went by. the calls in the middle of the night crying like a baby, incoherent, talking suicide. the helplessnes knowing that I coudnt help him that hes the only one that can do that and he wont. in and out of jail. living on the streets.waiting for the knock on my door telling me that hes dead. Oh yes, it will come someday.I tell myself that at least he would finally be at peace but it doesnt lessen the pain.
jackie, if you take the time to actually read it, I think you'll find something in it. At the very least, feel some gratefulness for your own life. Reminders of being thankful are powerful and always needed. I think it was not only beautifully written, but touching to the point of compassion and empathy at its finest. Bravo, Paul.
I think that you did a good job on interviewing Poppy. And I also believe you should start interviewing all the men and wommen on South Pearl street. Half of them are all dope users or alcholics and maybe someone could try to help not just Poppy. I know about this due to the fact I know someone you use to be like Poppy. But he has changed for the better. It is sad and I wish Poppy well. And I hope there is hope for him and the others out there who have addictions.
We live in a Grey World. There is no good, bad, easy or hard. The fixes of the problems of society will only create new dilemmas, but if we do nothing there will be no improvement. Or will there?
These folks are not reformable, and if you're a "good" person, you do have sympathy for them. Life is tough, but you don't give up, that's weak. These folks are beyond that, just surviving, not contributing to anything. They have become the "lower" element, so naturally you try to avoid it. That doesn't make you a bad person, just put yourself in their shoes for a day in your mind.
Yes, we all have our faults and we also have choices to make. POPPY made his choice and it was a very bad one. Like Steve, I too am tired of picking up the check for these losers. Do I have sympathy? Of course I do. My sympathy goes out to Poppy's Ex wife and her children because she was saddled with the responsibility of parenthood by herself because POPPY was too busy taking care of his wants. Guess who is also saddled with picking up the check for the Ex and the kids food stamps, health care and housing? If Poppy wants to change he will. ADDICTS HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION! Society cannot. It's been proven over and over again. Unfortunately, only when these people hit rock bottom do they make the decision to change or not. Society should not interfere in the interim and then they should only provide one, maybe two opportunities of help and if they go back to their drugs and alcohol, they should be allowed to stay there. I am my Brother's keeper if he is willing to change to what is right and acceptable in the society we live in. Society should not be responsible to support these people, their choices and the maintenance of their lifestyle. There are too many legitimate needy people who could better use our help and support. i.e.. Hard working people who have lost jobs, health benefits their life savings to Wall Street thieves dishonest CEO's and CFO's.


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News Discussion / Re: Some inconvenient truths for Gore« on: June 14, 2006, 11:18:32 PM »
you just bad propagandist. admit it.
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News Discussion / Re: Some inconvenient truths for Gore« on: June 14, 2006, 11:18:32 PM »
you just bad propagandist. admit it.
Acceptances / Re: IN at Duke off WL!« on: June 14, 2006, 08:38:06 PM »
Congratulations on getting into an excellent school. I almost went there myself.
News Discussion / Re: Some inconvenient truths for Gore« on: June 14, 2006, 08:36:21 PM »
Canada Free Press....I love the names partisan(both sides) use they crack me up.
Putz? Is there an echo in here?
Look, I posted the link because I thought this was a timely topic in light of Gore's new movie. I also thought it did a good job of offering counter points that one does not often hear from the MSM. Instead of responding to the article itself, you prefer to cast the CFP contributors as racists, sexists, neocon industry insiders and impugn Prof. Bob Carter's credentials as a scientist by linking to one website (did you even bother to read the article linked to that webpage?). With all that being said, this article is my first experience with the CFP.
Rather than discuss any merit the article may have, you would rather resort to the usual tatics of name calling and guilt by association. They are almost all white men; therefore they are not to be trusted. Prof. Carter wrote an article for an organization that accepted funding from an oil company; therefore, he is not being intellectually honest and is not to be trusted. And finally, you are a putz for finding the article interesting.
when you want to debunk global climate change...link to a scientific paper that no one understands...that way we can't do the research to see what a putz you are
Since when has that been the standard on this board?
News Discussion / Re: Some inconvenient truths for Gore« on: June 14, 2006, 03:03:25 PM »
Thanks, I will.
Although it is a good thing I don't live in the Amazon Valley; the north coast of South America and the Caribbean; New Zealand or the Ganges Valley in India, otherwise I might experience cooler temperatures than in the past few decades.
"Morgan points out that, in addition to the cooling in the NW Atlantic, massive areas of cooling are found in the North and South Pacific Ocean; the whole of the Amazon Valley; the north coast of South America and the Caribbean; the eastern Mediterranean, Black Sea, Caucasus and Red Sea; New Zealand and even the Ganges Valley in India."
News Discussion / Some inconvenient truths for Gore« on: June 14, 2006, 11:49:29 AM »
I especially like this quote concerning Gore:
"The man is an embarrassment to US science and its many fine practitioners, a lot of whom know (but feel unable to state publicly) that his propaganda crusade is mostly based on junk science."
Studying for the LSAT / Re: VA/NC/TN testing sites« on: June 13, 2006, 12:51:25 PM »
ALthough Knoxville may be a little farther than you wish to travel, I did take the test twice there. I thought the testing site was excellent; quiet, comfortable, and with ample room to take the test. Also, they proctors were very professional.
General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: University of Tennessee '09... anyone else?« on: June 10, 2006, 03:06:20 PM »
Well I went there for undergrad and grad school, so if you have any questions about Knoxville or the area I would be happy to answer them for you. Good luck at UT!
General Off-Topic Board / Re: Implicit Association Test - Just how biased are you, and against whom?« on: May 29, 2006, 02:36:13 PM »
I did the Gender-Science IAT. My result: Your data suggest little or no association between Male and Female with Science and Liberal Arts. I went as fast as I could, so hopefully it is accurate. Interesting link, thanks.
Where should I go next fall? / Re: Duke versus Vanderbilt« on: May 18, 2006, 06:31:09 PM »
I feel your pain. This would be a hard decision if it were me. Oddly enough it was kind of me about a month ago. My three top choices came down to UVa, Duke, and Vandy. I choose UVa for the same reason you are agonizing over the possible opportunity to attend Duke; it was my "dream" school when I started applying to law school.
Vandy is indeed an excellent school, but from my personal visit to Duke I liked the law school and the area there much better. Even though Vandy would have cost me half of what Duke would have in terms of tuition, I had my heart set on attending Duke. The only thing that changed that was the acceptance to UVa, which did not come until early April. If simply having the possibility of going to Duke is causing you this much agony, do you think you will be able to look back in three years and not have a lot of regret over staying with Vandy? Not a little regret but a lot of regret.
Granted you have already moved and your wife has already found a job, so your situation is infinitely more complicated than mine. Still, if Duke is your dream then perhaps you should sit down with her and discuss going there. Lay out the pros and cons with her, and see what she thinks about the whole situation.
Of course, you will have to break your lease and probably pay a penalty of some sort, but the Duke area is not hurting for nice and relatively inexpensive apartments. Sure your wife has a job that she loves (at least one week into it), but she can find another education related job, especially in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area.
So the real question is what about the next three years? What about the possibility of passing up your dream? I am a firm believer that you need to make the most of your opportunities, as you very often do not get a second chance; one chance to choose the right place to get your education and one chance to make the most of it. This is particularly true when it comes to law school.
Would an education at Duke be that much better at providing you opportunities than Vanderbilt? Most likely not, but isn't the journey a key part of the law school experience?
When it comes down to it, I am sure you will make the best decision for you and your wife, but do not let the possibility of a few hectic weeks dissuade you from seriously considering the option of attending Duke. If the two of you can deal with the cost of moving to Durham and the uncertainty of her finding a job in a timely manner, then I say go for it. Best of luck with whatever you decide.
General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Former/Soon-to-be Former Military Roll Call« on: May 06, 2006, 10:12:10 PM »
4 years enlisted in the Air Force. I will be attending Virginia this fall.


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