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Mark Wilberg
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Feb 05, 2011 22:52:32
Hi all,
I just wrote a basic user-login system where the html page uses javascript to send the ajax request to a
which accesses through database.
Here's the js code:
var res; function getXMLObject() { var xmlHttp = false; try { xmlHttp = new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP") // For Old Microsoft Browsers } catch (e) { try { xmlHttp = new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP") // For Microsoft IE 6.0+ } catch (e2) { xmlHttp = false // No Browser accepts the XMLHTTP Object then false } } if (!xmlHttp && typeof XMLHttpRequest != 'undefined') { xmlHttp = new XMLHttpRequest(); //For Mozilla, Opera Browsers } return xmlHttp; // Mandatory Statement returning the ajax object created } var xmlhttp = new getXMLObject(); //xmlhttp holds the ajax object function handleServerResponse() { if (xmlhttp.readyState == 4) { res=xmlhttp.responseText; } else { return false; alert("Error during AJAX call. Please try again"); } } function ajaxFunction() { var veid=document.getElementById("eid").value; var vpwd=document.getElementById("pwd").value; //window.alert('here inside ajaxFunction'+vconf+' '+vseid); if(xmlhttp) { xmlhttp.open("GET","check_login?eid="+ veid +"&pwd="+ vpwd,true); //this is the servlet name xmlhttp.onreadystatechange = handleServerResponse; xmlhttp.setRequestHeader('Content-Type', 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded'); xmlhttp.send(null); } } function def() { //window.alert('hi'); ajaxFunction(); //alert('res:'+res); if(res=='y') { return true; } else { document.getElementById("uhidden").style.color="#CC0000"; document.getElementById("uhidden").innerHTML="Invalid E-Mail ID or Password" return false; } }
But the code works only after two clicks
Any help guys?
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Line 43 specifies that your call will be asynchronous (by specifying "true" as the last parameter):
xmlhttp.open("GET","check_login?eid="+ veid +"&pwd="+ vpwd,true);
With this in place, in your "def" function, at line 53 you will call the Ajax function, which will send a request to the server, and
without waiting for a response
it will then continue with the remainder of the "def" function. Since there has been no response received yet, "res" will not have the response from the server, so you are almost certainly going to go on to the else statement in line 59. It is then just a matter of luck when the response is received - I suspect that the "two clicks" is more just the amount of time it takes you to click multiple times gives the server time to return the response.
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Mark Wilberg
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Feb 06, 2011 12:06:27
Do you mean to say that I have to change the value true to false?
Because the request may not have been processed in the servlet or is it so?
BTW, I've read from a link as follows:
Performance Note When Async is set to false, send operations are synchronous, and Windows Internet Explorer does not accept input or produce output while send operations are in progress. Therefore, this setting should not be used in situations where it is possible for a user to be waiting on the send operation to complete.
I obviously don't understand these terminologies, synchronous and asynchronous since in my case its just I have to wait for the response to complete from the server end.
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Don't worry, the terminology will get easy soon enough.
In an asynchronous request, the request / response is completely separate from how the main browser logic is working. So you can continue doing other work in the browser while waiting to get the response back (including clicking the button multiple times).
In a synchronous request, everything must happen in the order you specified, and it is only when one event has completed that the system is considered synchronized and can move on to the next task. Hence the comment that the browser can appear completely unresponsive while waiting for a response to come back.
Again, the note you mentioned is correct: generally speaking, anytime you force the user into a situation where they have no clue what is going on, and a system that appears to be dead, you risk them simply closing that system. This is a really bad user experience and should be avoided.
Normally I would recommend against using Ajax in a login screen - when you get the response back from the server (stating that the login was successful), you are presumably going to redirect to another screen. So you are effectively making the user wait for twice the length of time needed for roundtrip communications with the server.
However on the assumption that this is desirable for some reason, then I would approach it completely differently.
I would have the "def" function disable the login button until a response has been received. And I would have it always return false.
I would then have the "handleServerResponse" function check for whether the response was "y", and if it was, perform the form submission / redirection / whatever else is needed. If the response was not "y" then it would show the error message and re-enable the login button.
Just my thoughts.
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I agree with Andrew. Just because you want the login to be modal, is not a good reason to make a synchronous request.
You might also want to look into using jQuery and jQuery UI which have tools that make the issuing of Ajax requests and display of mdal dialogs a lot easier.
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Thanks guys,
This problem got solved.
I thought of reusing the ajaxFunction(url) but since I have to make response text a global variable, the function moves on to the next sequence only when the xmlhttp.status is changed. So, it has to wait until all other requests has been answered in the servlet.
My answer of reusing the function is a big
. So, i made smaller changes in the servlet and by rearranging the code by placing all the conditions to verify the response text after this:
So, after my experience of reusing this response method, the answer is pretty simple: "verify the response text asap!!!".
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Ball, Eve. 1970. In the Days of Victorio. Tucson: University of Arizona Press.; Keenan, Jerry. 1988. "Mimbres Apache War Chief Victorio May Have Been America's Greatest Guerilla Fighter." Wild West Magazine, June: 16–18, 75.; Laumbach, Karl W. 2000. Hembrillo: An Apache Battlefield of the Victorio War. White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico. Archaeological Research Report No. 00-06, Human Systems Research, Inc.; Thrapp, Dan L. 1974. Victorio and the Mimbres Apaches. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press.; Thrapp, Dan L. 1988. Encyclopedia of Frontier Biography. Vol. 3. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press.; Utley, Robert M. March. 1984. "The Buffalo Soldiers and Victorio." New Mexico Magazine, 47–50, 53–54.


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Earlier this month Bryant was the lone member of the state Senate Finance Committee to vote against a bill that would authorize the state to issue $120 million in bonds in case the federal funding falls through.
Sen. Thomas Alexander, a Walhalla Republican who co-sponsored the measure, described the bill as a "safety net" that will show the state's business community that legislators are firmly committed to improving the Charleston port.
"The port is truly an economic engine for us, and we need to be positioned to move forward with or without the federal government," Alexander said.
Bryant said he agrees the port needs to be dredged even if the federal government won't help pay for the work. But he wants lawmakers to find money for the work without issuing bonds. He said one option would be dipping into a state reserve fund for capital projects.
State Rep. Brian White also opposes the Senate bill that Bryant is seeking to derail, but for different reasons.
Borrowing money for the dredging before permits for the work have been issued would be premature, said White, an Anderson Republican who is chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. Even worse, he said, it might actually dissuade federal officials from funding their share of the project.
But White also stressed that he fully supports the Charleston port dredging. He said the port plays a vital role for big companies in the Upstate such as BMW, Bosch and Michelin North America.
"It is very important to folks in Anderson, South Carolina," he said.
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Fmr. Explosives Loader for Controlled Demolition, Inc. Speaks Out
Posted By aaron On March 21, 2011 @ 12:07 am In Old Infowars Posts Style,September 11 | Comments Disabled
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
March 21, 2011
Tom Sullivan – Explosives Loader AE911Truth's EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
Tom Sullivan discusses various details of what you'd expect to see in the standard operating procedure of a controlled demolition, including the wide use of Thermite self-consuming shape charges, the availability of remote detonation (which he suggests is too expensive for most applications other than military) and lack of steel casings, seen mostly in older jobs. According to Sullivan, one would expect a 'wave of explosions' whether then one large boom, just as multiple pieces of video demonstrate from 9/11. Sullivan called the NIST report on Building 7 "very suspect," while pointing out that he speaks as an individual based on his experience with CDI (but not in any way on their behalf).
At the heart of Sullivan's statement, he says:
"I knew from day one this was a controlled event. And why I did that was simply looking at Building 7. You have a sudden collapse of a building; it's fairly symmetrical as it comes down. There's a classic kink, which means the center core collapses first. You can see that on the video. And the building falls near freefall. So I really, honestly, didn't believe this from day one, because this is the way buildings classically come down with controlled demolition."
Via DemolitionExpertsQuestion911:
Tom Sullivan worked for Controlled Demolition, Inc. for almost three years before and during 9/11 as a Site Photographer and Explosives Technician. He is also licensed by the FDNY to handle explosives. His explosives technician duties included placing explosives in buildings to prepare them for demolition. His profile page at AE911Truth is here, and his in-depth interview at AE911Truth can be found here.
AE911Truth's EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW!
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by Julie Dodd JEA Mentoring Committee co-chair For journalism teachers — such as our mentees — who are seeking ways to increase their advising skill set, the Poynter Institute's NewsU is offering an online course that can help. Becoming a More Effective Adviser: Journalism Values and Craft will run for three weeks (July 25 – … Continue reading
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High school journalism teachers can win free class sets of Wall Street Journal
by Julie Dodd JEA Mentoring Committee co-chair The Dow Jones Newspaper Fund will be awarding class sets of The Wall Street Journal for the 2011-2012 school year. High school teachers enter the selection process by submitting a 250-word essay on how they will use the newspapers in their media classes. The deadline for submitting an … Continue reading
A reminder of how to engage readers in student media
JEA Yearbook Adviser of the Year Sarah Nichols challenged us to get involved in media coverage. During her award speech at the JEA/NSPA convention in Anaheim, she asked us to get out our smartphones, take photos and post those photos to social media sites. She reminded the audience of the potential of social media to … Continue reading
JEA mentors and committee member recognized at JEA/NSPA awards luncheon
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More than 20 of the JEA mentors are assembling at the Kansas City Convention Center for the all-day Mentor Forum. The Mentoring Committee met last night to make sure we're ready for the forum and also to discuss committee business. Committee members (in photo): Judy Robinson (seated), Nick Ferentinos, Bill Flechtner, Linda Barrington, Peggy Gregory … Continue reading
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by Julie Dodd JEA Mentoring Committee co-chair Three college faculty members were recognized for their contributions to scholastic journalism during the Association for Education in Journalism and Communications Conference this week in Denver. Brian Poulter and Sally Renaud of Eastern Illinois University and Jock Lauterer of UNC Chapel Hill were the first and second place … Continue reading
Mentor and mentee model mentoring conversation
Kansas mentor Mary Anne McCloud and her mentee Erika Rickard joined us this afternoon to demonstrate a mentoring conversation. The new mentors observed and afterwards Nick Ferentinos guided a discussion of how the conversation was structured to make it productive and positive. Judy Robinson recorded the conversation so we can show it to other mentors. … Continue reading


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Receives National Best Practices Honor from American Psychological
VANCOUVER, Wash., March 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Burgerville, a chain of 39 quick service restaurants located throughout Oregon and Southwest Washington, has been presented with a national Best Practices Honor from the American Psychological Association (APA). Burgerville was recognized for its implementation of numerous programs that promote employee health and well-being including a comprehensive health care plan that is unmatched by quick service chains of its size. These practices are an example of employee health and safety, one component of a psychologically healthy workplace.
Burgerville's decision to introduce an expanded health care plan came after an employee survey revealed affordable health care coverage as the number one concern among workers. In 2006, the company unveiled a health care plan for hourly workers who have been with Burgerville for more than six months and work an average of at least 20 hours per week. Burgerville pays 95 percent of the premiums for employees and their dependents. With the security of health care coverage, Burgerville employees enjoy peace of mind knowing they can take care of themselves and their families, which further strengthens their commitment to the organization and its values.
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The digital revolution has caused seismic changes for brands - from the way they connect with their audiences, to the channels they can use to reach them. The way people are consuming news has been turned on its head, with more and more people accessing content from global sources, using multiple platforms and sharing huge volumes of self-produced content themselves.
It sometimes feels that a week doesn't pass without a high profile example of business falling short of the standards expected by customers and wider society. In light of the tax controversy involving one of our biggest banks that continues to dominate headlines - this latest poll perhaps comes as no surprise.
The corruption of the world's biggest currency dealers was exposed recently, leading to US and UK regulators imposing £2.6bn of fines on six major banks. Although an extreme example, what we have here is a prime illustration of how bad behaviour in the workplace can have incredibly serious consequences for the organisations involved.
Now most of us would be embarrassed to admit to feeling jealous. And most of the time, we wouldn't even realise that we're feeling jealous. But jealousy happens to the best of us, and when it does, it just creeps in, eats away at us and tastes sour. It makes us overreact, misinterpret and assume things. Simply put, jealousy is toxic; it doesn't look good or feel good.
This week, some of the most socially and environmentally responsible brand's in the world are coming together to convince us that what brand of mascara you use, or what kind of watch you wear is as important as the career you've decided to pursue or the area you've opted to live in. And not for the reason you'd think.
You'd think a book would be the least dangerous thing you could send to your friend who's just begun their summer holiday. Nothing could be much safer, it might seem, than relaxing on a deckchair, in a peaceful garden or hotel poolside terrace, with a book and a cool drink. But this is Northern Ireland, and when we send parcels, we have to risk assess.
There's a rumour going around, propagated by [some] polyamorists, that polyamory is a superior ideology to monogamy. Let's face it, 'limitless love' does sound wholly honorable and blissful, even if 'limitless sex' with multiple partners sounds ~ for most of our sex-negative society ~ quite the opposite.
A pot-smoking friend once regaled me with his theory of a collective human consciousness, his idea being that supposedly we are all connected by some sort of invisible net that links our minds. I remember laughing heartily at the concept as I inhaled secondary smoke while thinking this is what drugs do to one's brain- invent wild theories without any foundation whatsoever.
The upcoming European elections will offer a valuable insight into the current state of democracy in the EU. While the vote will lay the foundations for a greater involvement of citizens in the Union's policy-making process, a poor result may end up undermining the legitimacy of the EU system as a whole.
What if Valentine's Day, or relationships in general, were a stark reminder of the most painful and distressing events that you ever experienced? What if they triggered a trauma so terrifically challenging that it forever altered your approach to life? Welcome to Valentine's Day, and relationships, for adoptees.
The challenges of The Co-operative Bank and the furore around the role of the former chair, made co-operatives - businesses that are member-owned - an unhappy national news story in late 2013. Three months on and I feel that I can breathe again. But what difference did these high profile troubles make to the wider co-operative sector and the long-term reputation of our business model?


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At a truck stop outside of Boise, Lenny (our soundman) incorrectly identified a poisonous mushroom as the mildly psychedelic Liberty Cap. The entire road crew and half of The Whitespots (our opening band) are in the hospital tonight having their stomachs pumped. The only person left to run our sound was Les, and he kept turning us down (or even off) so he could talk to the waitresses.
63 Days on the Road: A Band's Own Story by Camper Van Beethoven's David Lowery.
Dave Morin is Apple's first public weblogger. They launched a "student weblog" on their education site yesterday, "for students to hear from other students about their observations and Mac-related stuff." (That's the sharp focus and clarity of purpose I like to see in a new weblog.) Lacking any external links or the ability to accept comments, the most interesting thing about the blog so far may be the disclaimer: "Any information in the blogs is provided for informational purposes only and is not meant to be an endorsement or representation by Apple. Apple is not responsible for the content." I hope Dave does something interesting with the site so it doesn't remain the token brand-positioning corporate weblog it appears to be.
Well, I think five years away is long enough, don't you?
Too damn long, if you ask me.
"He's an MC, I'm MC. We're all doing music. If we're Arabs - if we're Jews - that doesn't matter."Hip Hop in the Holy Land.
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Reading Munro puts me in that state of quiet reflection in which I think about my own life: about the decisions I've made, the things I've done and haven't done, the kind of person I am, the prospect of death. She is one of the handful of writers, some living, most dead, whom I have in mind when I say that fiction is my religion. For as long as I'm immersed in a Munro story, I am according to an entirely make-believe character the kind of solemn respect and quiet rooting interest that I accord myself in my better moments as a human being.
Jonathan Franzen writes a fun review of Alice Munro's latest book, Runaway. Playfully meta, avoids getting heavy and overdone.
It seems that the Democrats are insensitive to "moral values." This puzzles me because I think that opposing a war, or working for economic justice, or making health care more available in America all derive from a moral vision. Apparently, it is not the moral vision -- the set of faith and family values -- that helped re-elect George W. Bush.
I am now taking seriously the theory that we mainstream journalists are different from mainstream America. "Different" is too pale a word. We are alienated. We may live in the same country, but we treat each other like aliens. Maybe it's worse than that because we usually see and suspect the alien in our midst. The churched people who embrace Bush, in spite of a bumbling war and a stumbling economy, are more than alien to me. They are invisible.
"Confessions of an Alienated Journalist" by the Poynter Institute's Roy Peter Clark. Clark, a journalist, is writing for journalists here, but others might relate.
Tens of thousands of voters stood for hours at polls, where they frequently found befuddled workers who could not locate basic paperwork and gave incomprehensible directives, including, in one case, telling voters to segregate themselves by party affiliation. Antiquated mechanical voting machines at times broke down, and there were not enough mechanics on hand to fix them.This issue is going to come home hard for the mayoral election. Imagine if Ferrer gets robbed again. And is Sharpton still a wildcard?
Piggybacking off my earlier post, there is more evidence of some real fucked up things going on.
Dr. Menlo has a bunch of links on this site, including a graph exhibiting bias in the electronic voting towards Bush. There's also a follow up from Greg Palast arguing that Kerry actually won. Unsurprisingly, the media has passed on the story. Lastly, there's more cataloguing of voter irregularties.
(Most of these stories have lots of other links launching to more stories with more evidence of spoilage and/or electronic voting discrepancies.)
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The question that must be asked is: Why would the Democrats nor the media say anything?
Hypothesis A: Maybe this is all just wishful thinking and/or grasping at straws on the part of people who desperately didn't want to see another Bush presidency.
Hypothesis B: The Democrats are so invested in the system that they'd rather lose an election than see its legitimacy stressed again. One of the great tools in keeping the populace sated in the U.S. is pushing the idea that the U.S. is this great beacon of democracy despite all evidence to the contrary.
Alaina, Meg and I are going to run through New York City this Sunday. New Yorkers, we need your support! It's going to be awesome. Please leave a flickR note on the spot where you're intending to cheer and watch.
When I was 15 [I] had mono and had to stay home for a month. It was this singular period of time when the only song on, ever, was "Tainted Love." So I started calling to request songs, and there was this one guy who I ended up talking to for a few days in a row. He had this really great voice, and he was really flirty, and it was exciting. Then he said that there was this B-52's concert he had tickets to.
So I got all dressed up and snuck out--I got a ride from a friend. I met this KROQ guy at the Palladium, and it was really shocking: He had this big belly, and he smelled really, really awful. During the concert I walked out, and he followed me. He kind of cornered me against this car, and I bolted and started running down Sunset as fast as I could. I caught a cab home. It was so exciting.
Greg Palast's An election spoiled rotten.
The total number of votes siphoned out of America's voting booths is so large, you won't find the issue reported in our self-glorifying news media. The one million missing black, brown and red votes spoiled, plus the hundreds of thousands flushed from voter registries, is our nation's dark secret: an apartheid democracy in which wealthy white votes almost always count, but minorities are often purged or challenged or simply not recorded. In effect, Kerry is down by a million votes before one lever is pulled, card punched or touch-screen touched.
Update: There's a few more pieces on disenfranchisement.
Indymedia's election coverage details a lot of irregularities, including in New Orleans, LA; St. Petersburg, FL; Toledo, OH; Columbus, OH; Beloit, WI; and Milwuakee, WI. Other reported voting problems posted to IMCs include Felton, CA; Nashville, TN; Michigan and Ohio; Portland, OR; Boston, MA; Pittsburgh, PA; Florida and Pennsylvania; St. Louis, MO; Tulsa, OK; Manhattan, NY; Urbana, IL; Brooklyn, NY; and elsewhere. originally posted by zagg
Indymedia's election coverage details a lot of irregularities, including in New Orleans, LA; St. Petersburg, FL; Toledo, OH; Columbus, OH; Beloit, WI; and Milwuakee, WI. Other reported voting problems posted to IMCs include Felton, CA; Nashville, TN; Michigan and Ohio; Portland, OR; Boston, MA; Pittsburgh, PA; Florida and Pennsylvania; St. Louis, MO; Tulsa, OK; Manhattan, NY; Urbana, IL; Brooklyn, NY; and elsewhere.
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The following is a list of voting irregularities reported this morning to The League of Pissed Off Voters:
New Orleans, LA: There have been over 80 complaints of voting problems in New Orleans so far (10:30 AM). Shana from New Orleans Election Protection and the League of Pissed Off Voters reported that there have been machine malfunctions and in some places there are no backup ballots available. Election Protection says that New Orleans is one of the top sites of voting irregularities nationwide.
St. Petersburg, FL:A voter registered in St. Petersburg in Pinellas County, FL reported to the League of Pissed Off Voters that he had been told he was not registered to vote (10:45AM). He registered in and received voting information from Pinellas County, and then moved to Hillsborough. When he went to vote this morning at the Robinson Recreation Center at 1248 50th St. in Precinct 166 of Pinellas, he was told that he was not registered to vote there and was directed instead to the Hillsborough County Center at 601 East Kennedy St. In Hillsborough he was told that he was not registered there either and that a provisional ballot would not count.
Toledo, OH:Polls opened one half-hour late today at Glenwood Elementary in Toledo, OH, because the ballot boxes were locked in the principal's office and no one had the key, said Evan of the League of Pissed Off Voters. During the wait from 6:30 to 7AM, people left the polls without having voted. An hour and a half after the polling site opened, they ran out of pencils, bringing voting to a halt. Voting could not continue until 11AM, by which time 50 to 100 more people had walked away.
Columbus, OH:The polling site at Sathwick-Good Funeral Home, 3100 North High St. in Precinct 19H in Columbus, OH has announced that a funeral is happening from 10AM to 1PM. During these hours, they said, no groups may distribute literature or talk to voters outside.
Beloit, WI:This morning in Beloit, WI a lawyer for the Republicans was challenging Beloit college students saying that they could not register same day with their Beloit student ID's. In response, the Beloit college president came down to the polls with a notorized list of the students and lawyers to fight for the students' right to vote. Now students are witnessing registrations, the lines are out the door as they have been since 8 am this morning, and the majority of those in line are college students.
Milwuakee, WI:In wards 72, 314, and 297 in Milwuakee, voting machines are broken. All three wards are predominantly African-American. Luckily, in some of the target wards in Milwuakee, voting turnout has already reached 50% of registered voters at 1PM.
peter jaques: our broken political system
The Presidency of the United States is an obsolete office. It perhaps made sense when we were a country of 13 states and a few million people, with little global power. Even then, that was a lot of power in one man's hands. But now, the power that rests with the US President is downright imperial. One man is in direct control of the deadliest military in history. He also has enormous power over the richest economy in the world (I think it's the richest, right?), a covert action apparatus in the CIA which has historically destroyed several foreign governments, and a diplomatic corps that determines profound global alliances. No one person should have that power. No one should be able to wield the US military according solely to his personal discretion.
The Guardian (a UK newspaper) recently gave their readers an opportunity to have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the swing state of Ohio. The responses that the Guardian chose to publish may or may not have been a representative sample; and I would have liked to have seen the letters that were sent to Clark County that occasioned such vitriol. However the contrast and the tone of the responses were familiar. The U.S. really has become two nations. My colleague hit the nail on the head when he described one of them as " narrowminded, insular, xenophobic...", but he did miss one adjective, "hateful".
Prominent in the negative responses is an personal attack on the messenger, often accompanied by a threat of violence -- but no mention of the issues raised. These are not people who believe in entertaining another point of view, then arriving at a decision after careful reflection. These are people who are bent on uncontested compliance with the Powers That Be. If you don't agree with us, we'll beat you up -- or worse.
I believe there are two kinds of Bush supporters. There are those who know what he's really up to (the wealthy, the corporations) and are squealing with delight to have someone so tractable in the Oval Office.
OTOH there those that don't have a clue as to his real agenda. Dubya's evangelical base worships him -- because he's perceived as a down-home, God-fearing man of the people. He is their "crusader" who defending this Christian nation against the incursions of the liberals, the queers, the feminists, the minorities and the poor and other "special interests" whose agenda threatens 'the American Way of Life'.
For some bizarre reason, this group -- which constitutes a significant plurality of the American public -- believes that far from being a member of the elite, the leader of the free world should embody the same qualities as their bartender. Somehow the fact that GWB was born with a silver spoon in his mouth is overlooked. He is seen as a self-made man, when the truth is the ONLY reason he has had a heretofore successful political career (after failing at everything else) is because of his family ties. Well he may be as dumb as a sack of hammers, but one thing he is NOT is 'just plain folks'.
It doesn't matter that his CV and character barely qualify him to be a used car salesman. It doesn't matter that he is widely considered to be "incurious" -- i.e., that he doesn't have an inquiring mind (to put it delicately). More plainly, in Paul O'Neill's telling phrase, "he's a blind man in a room full of deaf people."
He is the "war president" who avoided serving in Viet Nam by joining the National Guard -- and then went AWOL and failed to fulfill his commitment. Yet he has the chutzpah to attack the service record of John Kerry, who was a decorated combat officer.
He is the "education president" who doesn't read, and has but scant knowledge of the world. ("There are blacks in Brazil?" "Sweden doesn't have an army, they're neutral").
He is the "compassionate conservative" who has slashed programs for the poor and veterans while emptying the Treasury -- and then some -- to dole out tax breaks for corporations and the rich, and providing _incentives_ to companies that send American jobs overseas.
But somehow half of the country has come to believe that he is their last, best hope.
John Kerry is no Bill Clinton, and he's no JFK. However he does impress me as a thoughtful, intelligent man, which for members of the "Know Nothing" party is anathema. Despite their protestations to the contrary, there is a huge segment of the American electorate who want to be ruled by a [prom] king. They want certainty and simple answers -- black hats and white hats -- in a world that is increasingly complex. They want reassurance that "We're No. 1!" even as the age of the superpower passes, undermined by interests of non-state actors (be they terrorists or multi-national corporations).
I'm voting for Kerry because Bush has left undone those things which he ought to have done, and he has done those things which he ought not to have done, and there is no health within him. By any objective measure, his tenure has been a disaster for the nation and the American people as a whole, save for a very, very, very, very small constituency of the very, very, very, very rich.
And even some of them are appalled.
Kerry seems to understand the questions, and he is ready, willing and able to meet those challenges. I don't see anyone else on the ballot who even comes close.
Ralph's own party, the Green Party, would not endorse his run this year. That's because those of us who want to build a third party in this country know that the only way to do this is to build bridges with those who believe in the issues Nader believes in. But not one of those people will sacrifice the chance to remove George W. Bush from the White House on Tuesday. The choice here is clear: do we join with our friends, or do we piss on them?
After the debacle of 2000, the Democrats got smart and abandoned the conservative wing of their party. That's why 8 of the 9 Democrats in the primaries this year were from the liberal wing. Ralph should take credit for that and declare victory. It's so sad that he doesn't realize the good he's accomplished. But for reasons only known to him, he's more angry at the Democrats than he is at Bush. He has lost his compass. I worry he has lost his mind. But he still gives a great speech!
And Lila Lipscomb, the mother from Flint who lost her son in Iraq, she still grieves -- as do the mothers of 1,120 others (not to mention the mothers of the 100,000 Iraqis who have died because of Bush's war). That's what this election is about. Not Ralph proving some point. Almost none of us on his 2000 advisory group are supporting him this year. His total lack of respect for his best friends should tell all of you something about what he really thinks of you, too.
Mike's Message on the eve of the election is right on. We watched Farenheit 9/11 again this weekend - I really love this movie. We need more movies where people put their political beliefs on display, warts and all.
Many people have told me that if [insert name of candidate] wins or there is a draft, they are going to leave the country. If you really mean it and are interested in getting a Masters degree in Computer Systems, you might consider a Masters program I am running. It focuses on operating systems, networks, distributed computing, parallel computing, grids, multiagent systems and other systems areas. Knowledgeable observers consider my group to be one of the top three systems groups in Europe.
Andrew Tanenbaum is the man behind the nerve-wracking electoral-vote.com.


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A farmer was having a tough time understanding why his chickens were producing less eggs than in previous years. He wrote a letter to the local university, asking for guidance on increasing his chickens' egg production. The university handed the project off to its top theoretical physicist. The physicist quickly returned to the farmer and said "I have a solution to increase the production of your eggs, but it only works for spherical chickens in a vacuum."
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the Crazies are an often looked over range that lie between Bozeman and Billing. lots of trout filled alpine lakes, lots of wildlife including a large population of mountain goatsstarted at the Big Timber Ck trailhead (finished there as well) Big Timber Creek, rolling pretty good for late JulyUpper Twin Lakeat Conical Peak Passlots of post holing to get there (again a little unusual for late July)Glacier LakeSouth Fork of Sweetgrass CkMoose Lakemy humble camp at Moose Lake"it's nice going light" shot :)
Sweet. Love the pics. Nice pic of the Ion in the UL salute. I am in the process of tricking my Ion out.
Thanks for sharing a trip from up in the Crazies, Mike. It's definitely an overlooked range but a worthwhile destination. I was up there summer before last and almost headed up there for some skiing two weeks ago. Looks like I would've been happy with the snow so perhaps I'll try to find some turns up that way in September.
They are a nice range, aren't they?Thanks for the report and pics Mike.
Wow, there looks to be a lot more snow there than there was in the Spanish Peaks when we were there around the same time. Once we got up over 7200 ft, we didn't see another soul.
the Crazies were pretty desolate this trip as well- it was actually a work assignment (checking fishermen) :) , I found a few folks at Blue and Granite Lakes on the way in, but they were the last folks I saw for the rest of the tripmy wife and I are headed back that way for her birthday this month, I'll be the one doing the fishing this time! :D
Great trip and photos, Mike. Thanks for sharing!
Oh Man! Spent some time in Billings in 2005 and the Crazies were on my list of places to go. Unfortunately work got in the way.Thanks for the pics. How was the road to the trailhead? I read it can be ugly.
I don't what I enjoy better Mike, your trip report, or the name of the mountains you spent your trip in, The Crazy Mountains! That's awesome...no sorry, crazy. It looks like you were able to pack nice and UL on this trip, your shelter setup is my flavor. Thanks for sharing.
Edited by Eugeneius on 08/09/2010 22:11:57 MDT.
Legend has it that they were named after a white woman whose family was massacred by Indians and went mad. They are sometimes known as the Crazy Woman Mountains. They provide a stunning vista from I-90 between Livingston and Columbus, Montana. And as shown provide some great hiking venues.
Loved the trip report.. thanks for posting it!
Eugene- thanks- you'll have to venture up this way some time so I can return the favor :)Richard- that's correct- was made somewhat famous in the movie about Jeremiah Johnson
Those are great, classic backpacking photos. The first two could easily be on the 2011 BPL calendar.What do you do for a living that this was a work trip?
thanks- not much of photographer- get lucky once and again :)game warden- get to patrol high mountain lakes occasionally (not often enough) for anglers
Law enforcement for your occupation is a cinch- your mustache makes Tom Sellek tremble;)Sweet report/ pics
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My 2006 just ran out of warranty, and as I always said, It is time to bulletproof her. I have ran water and oil filters since day one, ELC, and EGT programed off, and she only has 29k miles. I have her apart and am installing the standard bulletproof mods, my goal is for towing heavy and reliability, I could give two shi#$ about what my drag strip times would be. The problems I have had in the past have been with high engine temps pulling my 40' toyhauler, with boat in tow, in the NV/UT heat. So engine temps/cooling is my primary concern.
I have already compiled and am installing:
Gogo stage 1 intake and Egr delete
new up pipe
SCT, Standpipes, Turbo feed/drain etc (yes, got an oil cooler even though mine is fine, you all talked me into replacing it! lol)
I have always ran a custom tow tune, and will continue to do so.
My Question, I have a little money left over, would my $1100 be better spent on a powermax or a banks Intercooler kit? they are both about the same price.
I am leaning towards the intercooler kit as of right now, I am thinking that combined with the gogo will bring a dramatic increase in amount, and decrease the temp of the air going in. Based on the fact I dont necessarily need more power, I think this is a better way to go then the powermax. I understand the powermax can push more air, and provide more power, but I dont think that will help my high temps any, just maybe give me more power, and I don't necessarly need more power. Well anyway, you guys usually offer great insight, so let me know your opinion.
..and by high temps, I mean when im pulling rolling canyons and uphill grades in UT & NV in 115 degree temps, my EOT and ECTs can be difficult to keep in check, so my end goal, is to build a motor that is bulletproof, reliable, and stays cool
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I would get the intercooler and intake before I got the powermax.
I'll agree on the cooler. I have that ic and intake on my truck and combined, they dropped the egt's around 160* at wot. Cruising in tow tune with 14k at 70mph in 90* heat was 120* lower.
Just a thought, would royal purple(purple ice be usable in the trucks) or like everything else, it will cause horrifying catastrophies. i would think the other options would be a huge aluminum radiator and an extra cooler on the oil system.
I think the intercooler will help a lot.
Have you looked at the Elite head coolant lines?
I had them put in when I did the ARP's.
You can only add them when the heads or off and for $150 I thought it was worth adding to help keep the heads cool.
I would suggest the intercooler over the turbo (since i presume you are still running stock injectors) but to not leave the turbo undone, throw in a batmowheel as that will help drop egts even further and it's $400 plus the cost for a modded compressor housing. (I think it is $100)
I would even suggest looking at a new radiator that is all aluminum. It isnt needed but if you are looking for the best way to beat the heat, it may be an option. Best of luck man.
thanks for the inputs guys, sounds like my though was correct to go with the IC. Ya windrunner, my injectors are stock, for the amount of money I have left i could go with Warren's 155s if I thought that was a better mod then the turbo or the IC, but I think that would just lead to more heat, not less. I think I will get the IC now, and maybe in the future go with 155s and a powermax. I have not read much about this batmowheel, how much work is that, I would have to tear the turbo apart, and mod the housing? does that provide more boost?
I also say go with the intercooler over the turbo or injectors since you want to stay cool and said you don't really need more power. The Batmowheel is a billet compressor wheel that is a drop-in replacement for the stock cast wheel. I have not installed one, but the install sounds very straight forward and pretty simple. It will not only lower EGTs but it will allow the turbo to spool faster and move a tiny bit more air, so you will get better low end torque and a slight hp increase throughout the rpm range.
Thanks for the replies guys, The Batmowheel, just did some research, i like it. However it is ridiculously confusing how some guys say it wont fit an 06 turbo's while the manufacture claims it does. I would buy it if it was a drop in, I think spending another $200 on top of the $400 makes it an expensive mod, maybe money be better spent on future aftermarket turbo. So... will the batmowheel drop in an 06 or not? I found two different part numbers on there site? so?
Ford 6.0L drop-in
No. A batmowheel WILL NOT drop into a stock 06 turbo. The compressor WILL indeed have to be modified or you would need to replace the turbo with an 03 model. I agree that if you add the $200, it starts approaching the "expensive mod" price and you would definitely probably be better suited using your money to put towards a larger turbo. I was merely thinking of all the options you could do to help remove heat. Hope that helps more.
Have you run your truck sine you installed the GoGo intake?
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PORT ST. LUCIE — The New York Mets' outfield received another blow Sunday in a 9-4 loss to Detroit at Tradition Field.
Center fielder Matt den Dekker broke his wrist in the seventh inning while trying to make a leaping catch. The former Florida Gator standout was seen in the clubhouse with a heavily wrapped right wrist and was taken to the hospital for X-rays.
Facing New York reliever Brandon Lyon, Austin Jackson hit a towering, wind-blown ball that den Dekker leaped and nearly caught. The left-hander had the ball momentarily but crashed hard at the base of the wall, landing awkwardly on his right wrist.
A defensive specialist who had a highlight-reel catch earlier in the game, den Dekker had a good week at the plate — the weakness in his game — by hitting triples in consecutive games.
"He nicked it up pretty good," said Mets manager Terry Collins before the X-rays were taken. "I'm pretty concerned about it."
Collins said that even though den Dekker's style of play lends toward the possibility of him getting hurt, he wouldn't recommend that the speedy center fielder change his aggressiveness.
"You don't ever want them changing. I was fortunate enough to watch Jim Edmonds in Anaheim, and he made diving catch after diving catch. I heard a player tell him one time, 'If you want to stay healthy, stop diving.' I said, 'The minute you stop diving, you become an average player,'" Collins said.
"The same with Matt den Dekker. He's that kind of a player where he's fearless. That's what makes him a great center fielder."
New York captain David Wright took a big step toward being ready for opening day by participating in live batting practice for the first time since returning to camp last Sunday.
"I'm just as optimistic as I was when I talked to you guys a week ago," Wright said of the possibility of playing on opening day. "We take it one day at a time. They don't want to rush me into anything.
"Obviously, almost a week away from opening day, it's going to be important to play in some games at some point."
The third baseman added that there is some inflammation in his rib area from the intercostal muscle injury.
Second baseman Daniel Murphy played in a minor-league game and went 1-for-2 with a walk.
"(My timing) was bad. It was like trying to hit an aspirin. I haven't had an at-bat since October. I felt the same way everyone else does when they start spring training, but they started five weeks ago," said Murphy, who has been out with a rib cage injury.
"This is the best I've felt this spring."
Passing on how the game is played is part of one of baseball's best traditions. New York closer Bobby Parnell, who won a Florida State League Championship at St. Lucie in 2006, said every player is a potential candidate to help out an upstart with some good advice.
"There's always somebody here with a lot of experience coming up through the years. Brian Stokes was somebody I hung around with my first year. He taught me a lot things," said Parnell, 28.
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SPS is characterized by fluctuating muscle rigidity in the trunk and limbs
and a heightened sensitivity to stimuli such as noise, touch, and emotional
distress that can set off muscular spasms. People with SPS are often too disabled
to walk or move, or are afraid to leave the house because of stimuli-triggered
spasms and frequent falls. The incidence of SPS has been estimated at one in
every one million persons, but according to Dr. Dalakas, "the disorder is so
often misdiagnosed as Parkinson's disease, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia,
psychosomatic illness, or anxiety and phobia that its actual incidence
is probably much higher."
Researchers have known since the 1980s that people with SPS have elevated
circulating antibodies against a particular enzyme, glutamic acid decarboxylase
(GAD65), involved in the synthesis of γ-aminobutyric acid
(GABA), an inhibitory neurotransmitter that controls muscle movement. Since
GABA modulates the action of the excitatory muscular neurotransmitters, lower
levels of circulating GABA allow the excitatory neurotransmitters to hijack
communications between the brain and the motor system, overstimulating the
muscles into stiffness and spasm.
This link between the neurological symptoms of SPS and a potential immunological
culprit led to several preliminary but successful attempts to treat the symptoms
of the disorder with immuno-modulating therapies, including IVIg. Dr. Dalakas
and his colleagues put this anecdotal evidence to the test by designing a double-blind,
cross-over study that would measure the effect of immunoglobulin therapy versus
placebo in a group of patients with SPS.
The research team selected 16 patients who tested positive for GAD65 antibodies
to receive either IVIg or placebo for 3 months. After a 1-month washout period,
the patients crossed to the alternative therapy. Results were based on a "stiffness
scale" and a "heightened sense scale" devised by Dr. Dalakas and his colleagues
to detect changes in the severity of spasms.
Patients treated with IVIg showed a statistically significant decrease in
symptoms of stiffness and spasm. The scores of the IVIg-randomized patients
dropped significantly from the first month to the fourth, but rebounded when
they crossed to placebo. In the placebo group, scores remained constant for
the first 4 months, and then dropped after crossing to IVIg. Eleven of the
14 patients who finished the study became less stiff and more mobile, and were
able to either walk unassisted, resume work activities, or remain upright without
fear of falling.
The current treatment standard for SPS is diazepam, but according to Dr.
Dalakas, "most patients require such high dosages that they become overly sedated." IVIg
treats symptoms more successfully and comes with no disabling side effects.
The mechanism of action of IVIg is not completely understood. Dalakas proposes
that IVIg either blocks production of GAD65 or somehow neutralizes
the circulating antibodies. What causes SPS is also uncertain. "We don't know
why the body begins to produce these antibodies or how they reach the neuronal
cell," says Dalakas. "It could be a virus, or something else that breaks tolerance
and induces the autoimmune process. What we do know is that we have a strong
indication that SPS is an autoimmune disease. As a result, we may be able to
propose and test additional autoimmune modulators."
The Bayer Corporation and Crescent Health donated part of the IVIg used in
the study.
The NINDS, part of the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland,
is the nation's leading supporter of biomedical research on the brain and nervous
system. The NINDS is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year.
This release will be posted on EurekAlert! at http://www.eurekalert.org and
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