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It's been one heck of a two weeks. One would think the world was coming to an end, given the way global markets have behaved. You may not be able to make much sense of why markets sold off so quickly, but out of the carnage we may be able to predict what comes next. Here's why.
Stock market free falls, such as the one we are presently experiencing, are called "waterfall declines," which are sudden drops of 20 percent or more compressed into a few short weeks or days. They are fairly rare events and most follow a roughly similar pattern consisting of three phases.
The first phase is the decline itself followed by a sharp bounce higher. We may be experiencing that bounce right now. Following the bounce (and possible re-test of the lows), the market should drift into a basing period that could last for one to three months.
During that time the market could move up and down in a sideways pattern similar to what we experienced in May through June of this year. Finally in the last phase there is a rally lasting six to 12 months that could move the markets higher by about 25 percent.
In reviewing 10 waterfall declines from 1929 thorough 2002, three months after the post-waterfall low, the stock market was higher in all 10 cases. Six months later, the market was higher in nine of the 10 cases with the average gain at 17 percent. A year later, the market was higher in nine out of 10 cases with the average gain equal to 24 percent. The financial crisis of 2008-2009 was in a league all by itself. The market, three months after the low of March 2009, was up 37 percent.
If we drill down even further, say to the next two weeks, one can expect a "relief rally" of as much as 10 percent. Then, if the pattern holds, we should "re-test" the bottom. In this case, if we have truly found a bottom for the S&P 500 Index at around 1,100, we should bounce again from there.
"So what happens if we break down through that 1,100 level?" asked a nervous client from Manhattan.
The short answer is 1,100 wasn't the bottom and we go lower, by as much as 10 percent, to S&P 1,000.
Waterfall declines are often recession-related. There have been exceptions to that rule, for example, in 1987 the market fell sharply for two days only to spring back. The Dot-Com boom and bust of 2002 was another waterfall decline that did not usher in a recession.
So what is the best way to navigate through a waterfall decline and its aftermath? It is obvious that one should ride out the turbulence; at least for the next few months. If we are truly entering into a recession, the economic data will confirm that fear or dispel it. If we are going into a double-dip, then I advise you to get defensive—bonds, dividend paying stocks, etc.
But it may turn out that the market was simply correcting, as it does periodically after a long and profitable run. Remember, the S&P 500 Index was up over 80 percent in over two years, so a 20 percent pullback doesn't look as serious from that perspective.
Bill Schmick is an independent investor with Berkshire Money Management. (See "About" for more information.) None of the information presented in any of these articles is intended to be and should not be construed as an endorsement of BMM or a solicitation to become a client of BMM. The reader should not assume that any strategies, or specific investments discussed are employed, bought, sold or held by BMM. Direct your inquiries to Bill at (toll free) or e-mail him at firstname.lastname@example.com . Visit www.afewdollarsmore.com for more of Bill's insights.
The markets presented plenty of head fakes this quarter. In January, contrary to everyone's expectations, the gains of last year kept right on coming through most of the first quarter, only to hit a brick wall in March thanks to troubles in the Middle East followed by nature's one-two punch to Japan. Despite that, the indexes finished the first quarter with the best gains in over two decades.
The Dow racked up 742 points (6.4 percent), the S&P 500 Index gained 68 points (5.4 percent) while the NASDAQ closed up 128 points for a 4.8 percent gain. If we annualize those gains we could be looking at a 20 percent plus gain for the year, which puts my forecast of a 20-23 percent gain in 2011 right on target.
"It was a choppy quarter though," commented one client on Friday who lives in Dalton.
I agree. Clearly this market is exacting a price (higher stress and wear and tear on the nerves) for the gains we are making. I suspect that additional volatility is waiting for us as we continue to climb a wall of worry throughout this next quarter. Some of the concerns I believe will haunt us through the spring are the price of oil brought on by geopolitical turmoil, continued problems among European financial institutions and, of course, the end of QE II, which occurs in June.
Can the economy continue to grow without the multibillion dollar monetary stimulus that the Fed has been providing for well over a year? The economy appears to be growing and unemployment declining, but is that a function of real demand or simply a response to the Fed's easy money policies? How will the stock and bond markets react to an end to this stimulus?
Smarter people than I are expecting a rapid and disastrous response by the bond markets to the sunset of QE II. They believe that interest rates will immediately spike, disrupting what little lending is already occurring and thereby throwing the economy back into recession. I find that hard to believe.
I'm going to give our central bankers, led by Ben Bernanke, the benefit of the doubt. They read the same papers we do and are well aware of the fears of the markets. Is it really plausible that the Fed will step out of the game and simply watch from the bleachers if the doomsayers are right?
There is simply too much at stake and Ben Bernanke knows it. I believe the process of pulling out of the market will be a managed one. For those who pay attention to "Fed Speak," I maintain that process is already at work. Recently a number of Board Governors who have granted interviews advised the financial community that the Fed will be taking a more neutral policy position in regards to stimulus in the future.
That's not to say there won't be concerns and with them volatility. Skittish investors will always jump the gun, many times before they actually have the facts. In today's markets, trading on rumors is just as viable as trading on the facts. So prepare for some rough sailing; but I get ahead of myself.
As a portfolio manager, it's part of my job to fret and worry about what will be, instead of enjoying what is. And a rising market is what we can expect over the next few months. Sure, we can and will have down days, but I believe they will be short and shallow. Commodity stocks will lead, so make sure you have some exposure to those sectors, and if you haven't yet, get back into the stock market — now.
Bill Schmick is an independent investor with Berkshire Money Management. (See "About" for more information.) None of the information presented in any of these articles is intended to be and should not be construed as an endorsement of BMM or a solicitation to become a client of BMM. The reader should not assume that any strategies, or specific investments discussed are employed, bought, sold or held by BMM. Direct your inquiries to Bill at (toll free) or e-mail him at email@example.com. Visit www.afewdollarsmore.com for more of Bill's insights.
It's official: the S&P 500 Index is now up 100 percent from its low of 666.79 back in March 2009. It was the fastest double in stock prices since 1936. And it is not over.
I have suggested several times in past columns past that a big move in stocks would come when individual investors sold their bond holdings, gathered their courage, and returned to the stock market. That time may be upon us.
Consider that this is the fifth week in a row that inflows into domestic stock funds have increased. A total of $21.3 billion moved into equity mutual funds in January. The first week in February saw an additional $5.85 billion and last week another $9.3 billion flowed into equities.
The money is coming out of bond funds (mainly funds invested in U.S. Treasuries and Munis). As expected, the stock markets' five-month winning streak and low rates of return in the government bond markets and money markets are forcing investors back into equities. This has been my premise for well over a year.
Corporate profits are approaching record levels. The economy is gaining steam, inflation forecasts remain subdued (2-3 percent/year) and interest rates are historically low. That is what I call a "sweet spot" for making money in stocks. But the market's steady rise since the beginning of the year, with little to no corrections, has also confounded veteran market watchers. Some respected technical analysts I know have actually given up trying to predict the timing of a pullback. The truth is that a correction can happen at anytime, but so what. Buy the dip.
Consider that the U.S. market continues to rise in the face of tensions in the Middle East, soaring global commodity prices, declining stock markets in the high growth emerging markets and continued financial concerns in Europe. In the past, any one of the above circumstances has had the power to take our market down 5 percent in a blink of the eye. But thanks to "Bennie and the Fed," investors own a "put" on our market. Back in November in my column "Don't Fight the Fed" had the following explanation for why the market would continue to rise:
"The Fed is clearly telegraphing to investors that they want a higher stock market, and like unemployment and the economy, they will do what it takes to accomplish that goal. This message is behind the jump in the stock market this week. My advice to you is don't fight the Fed. Buy stocks."
I stand by that advice.
On another note, have you been watching the price of gold and silver? A few weeks ago I suggested that the price correction in both these precious metals was just about over. Since then both gold and especially silver have roared back to life. Silver is above $32 an ounce. It is getting closer to my target of $36-$37 an ounce, so be ready to take some profits when we reach that price level. Gold has lagged silver so far, but I believe it will ultimately narrow the lead. Nonetheless, both metals performance have been far from shabby.
Bill Schmick is an independent investor with Berkshire Money Management. (See "About" for more information.) None of the information presented in any of these articles is intended to be and should not be construed as an endorsement of BMM or a solicitation to become a client of BMM. The reader should not assume that any strategies, or specific investments discussed are employed, bought, sold or held by BMM. Direct your inquiries to Bill at 1-888-232-6072 (toll free) or e-mail him at email@example.com. Visit www.afewdollarsmore.com for more of Bill's insights.
It was long overdue. For weeks, the stock market has registered overbought conditions and still it forged ahead. Investors had driven the averages back to yearly highs and only then did the rally run out of steam. Now it's time to step aside and watch.
"Is this the start of something big or should I just stay put?" asked a retired client from Pittsfield who has recouped much of his 2008 loses over the last year.
"Stay put," I said, "because this pullback will be short and unless you are a day trader, too volatile to do more than add to existing positions."
I'm thinking we could see the stock markets drop as much as 5 percent, which from here isn't such a big deal. Take the S&P 500 Index, for example. This week it hit an intraday high of 1,227 (almost 10 points higher than its peak in April). A 5 percent decline from that level would put the average at 1,165, a mere 30 points down from here. That's not worth getting excited about.
As a rule of thumb, I believe that 5 percent to 10 percent corrections in the stock market are the "price of doing business" or the risk one must accept in equity investing. These kinds of corrections occur 2-3 times a year on average. And it is not just equities that are falling.
Commodities are also declining. As I look at the present spot price of gold, the precious metal is off over $40 an ounce while silver is down $1.50 an ounce and oil has plummeted over $3 a barrel — in just one day. Commodities tend to have extremely sharp, if short, corrections that tend to wilt most amateur investors' resolve to stay invested. It appears that once again those who have chased energy, precious metals and agricultural commodities are suffering big reversals this week. Rather than buy this weakness, they tend to sell in panic.
For those with bullish convictions, this pullback is a buying opportunity, not only in commodities but stocks in general. This coming week should provide further opportunities to establish new positions. Some of the areas I favor for additional investment are emerging markets, real estate such as REITs, commodities, commodity companies and selected technology.
As for the culprits that triggered the pullback, most of the negative events have something to do with governments. The on-again-off-again saga of the European debt crisis has reignited fresh worries over Ireland's struggle to rescue its financial system. It has led investors to re-examine Europe's financial situation in general.
At the same time, China is rumored to be hiking interest rates in an attempt to slow their economy. That would spell bad news for everyone since China has become the new locomotive of global growth. Over in Korea, where the G20 adjourned without agreeing on how to curb the growing currency war, left investors worried and disappointed over the fate of the U.S. dollar.
All of the above are serious issues but they have been with us throughout the year. China has raised rates before and emerging market growth is still quite healthy. The problems of Europe's smaller economies will continue to plague the Euro and the European Community for the next few years, but has not stopped their stock markets from enjoying substantial gains over the last six months.
The financial world is fully aware of every nuance of the currency debate. The dollar has declined since late August, sending stocks and commodities ever upward. None of this is new. Consider this pullback a healthy correction and that's all you need to know.
All these reasons for the sell-off will still be with us a month from now when the averages have regained their upward ascent, so don't put too much stock in today's headlines. They are fleeting at best. Focus instead on the opportunities this sell-off will present.
Bill Schmick is an independent investor with Berkshire Money Management. (See "About" for more information.) None of the information presented in any of these articles is intended to be and should not be construed as an endorsement of BMM or a solicitation to become a client of BMM. The reader should not assume that any strategies, or specific investments discussed are employed, bought, sold or held by BMM. Direct your inquiries to Bill at 1-888-232-6072 (toll free) or e-mail him at email@example.com. Visit www.afewdollarsmore.com for more of Bill's insights.
Now that QE II is in the bag, expect QE III, QE IV and maybe even a QE V, if that's what it takes to restore economic growth and reduce the unemployment rate to under 7 percent in this country. After the mid-term election results, I believe the Federal Reserve is all that stands between us and a stagnant, deflationary economy. I would not bet against them in this endeavor.
Most of Wall Street is expecting fiscal gridlock in Washington now that the GOP has re-taken the House but is still the minority in the Senate. That will mean little if any new initiatives to either grow the economy or drive down unemployment have much chance of passing. One exception may be a compromise on the Bush tax cuts.
If both sides can muster enough cooperation to cut a deal in extending the tax cuts before the end of the year (when they are set to expire) then we may escape an economic knockout punch of monumental proportions. Outside of that, there is not much that we should expect from the government over the next two years.
That means that only the Federal Reserve Bank, led by Chairman Ben Bernanke and his band of 12 governors, are left to wage the good fight against the forces arrayed against our economy. Their mandate, to promote low, stable inflation and a high level of employment, gives them enough latitude to do just about whatever they feel necessary to jump start the economy. It appears they are doing just that.
QE II not only says the Fed is serious about that mission but signals an intention, in my opinion, that if this one doesn't work, another one will already be in the pipeline, followed by another, and another. That is entirely believable since the Fed can and will continue to print money (U.S. dollars) until the cows come home in an effort to grow the economy, which is the only way they can reduce unemployment.
In an Op-Ed piece in the Washington Post on Thursday, Bernanke defended the Fed's second quantitative easing and stated several things that you should read as Gospel:
"... the heavy costs of unemployment include intense strains on family finances, more foreclosures and loss of job skills."
"... inflation is running somewhat below 2 percent."
"... higher stock prices will boost consumer wealth and help increase confidence, which can also spur spending."
"... Increased spending will lead to higher incomes and profits that, in a virtuous circle, will further support economic expansion."
Bernanke said next to nothing about the dollar since he did not want to give the impression that the U.S. was deliberately driving the dollar lower (although that is exactly what QE II will do). If you don't believe that just take a peek at the decline in the greenback lately. As I have said in the past, the dollar will continue to weaken as the Fed prints more and more money. A lower dollar will boost commodity prices such as gold, silver, energy, materials and agricultural food items. So ignore the naysayers who say commodity prices have run their course.
As far as the Fed is concerned, pumping more money into the economy is OK, at least for now, since the inflation rate is "a bit lower than the rate most Fed policymakers see as being consistent with healthy economic growth in the long run."
But the most important message investors should take away from his Op-Ed is his extraordinary comment concerning higher stock prices. Evidently the Fed believes higher stock prices should be part and parcel of its attempt to grow the economy. The reasoning makes sense when you consider that consumers are the linchpin of this economy. Given that our two main pillars of wealth, our tax-differed retirement savings and our homes, have taken a huge hit since 2008, any improvement in one or both of these assets should help improve our confidence and therefore our spending. That message is clear in the bullet points above.
The Fed is clearly telegraphing to investors that they want a higher stock market, and like unemployment and the economy, they will do what it takes to accomplish that goal. This message is behind the jump in the stock market this week. My advice to you is don't fight the Fed. Buy stocks.
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Bloomberg reported that Google may have grounds to ask the International Trade Commission to block U.S. imports of the Apple iPhone and iPad over 3G patents held by Motorola Mobility. This speculation is based upon Google's accusations that Apple has violated 3G patents held by Motorola Mobility, one of Google's latest acquisitions.
Here's the quote from the Bloomberg report, "The U.S. International Trade Commission said it will review ITC Judge Thomas Pender's findings that Apple was violating one Motorola Mobility patent. The commission is scheduled to issue a final decision on Aug. 24, and has the power to block devices made in Asia from entering the U.S."
Google bought Motorola Mobility in part to gain access to Motorola's stockpile of 17,000 patents, many on phone technology. Apple had already filed a complaint against Motorola Mobility at the European Union, accusing them of misusing patents that relate to industry standards. When Google bought Motorola, that battle with Apple came as part of the deal.

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Friday Notes
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- Bill Simmons delivers his long-awaited love letter to the Clips today. It's the front story on ESPN.com.
- Few ballers have upped their value during the second half of the season more than Vlad Radmanovic. What I didn't realize until reading Chris Sheridan today is that Vlad surrendered his Larry Bird rights when he accepted the trade from Seattle, which means that he's eligible only for the midlevel exception - not the crazy money the Sonics offered him last year. I've got to assume that this increases the possibility that he'll be back with the Clips next year - though Elgin may want to use that mid-level to secure Cassell, assuming Sam would settle for $5 million.
- In the Sacramento Bee this morning, Joe Davidson swoons over Elton Brand, ubermensch. It's a nice piece. The Bee, in their preview capsule of tonight's game, highlights the EB-Kenny Thomas battle in the post as the key matchup. Assuming Shaun gets the start tonight, I'd choose Livingston-Bibby as mine. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Dunleavy starts Cassell and Ross, assigning Ross to Bibby, then using Livingston in the second unit on Bibby.
- Why don't we do this: rather than rewarding the team that tanks its final week of games, let's say that the winner of the Clips-Memphis game at Fed-Ex Forum draws Denver and the loser gets the Mavs in Dallas.


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POTSDAM - Outdoor games, ice cream making and other fun activities are in store at this years Camp Healing Hearts, a day-long event for children and youth dealing with the death of a family member or close friend.
Once again, area youth will team up with trained counselors for games and activities designed to teach them coping skills. Now in its third year, the free camp is scheduled from 8:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. Aug. 18 at St. Lawrence Valley Hospice, Route 11. About a dozen spots for youth ages 5 to 17 are still available.
This years them is a Day at the Carnival, and highlights include darts, potato sack races, an obstacle course and creating home-made ice cream.
Kay L. DePerno, a hospice bereavement counselor, said taking time to properly grieve gets overlooked in todays fast-paced society.
Were trying to cultivate good grievers, Ms. DePerno said. We have forgotten to take the time to grieve.
Trained hospice counselors will lead activities designed to help campers begin to understand what grief is and learn different coping strategies.
Gathering with peers who are experiencing similar feelings is helpful in the healing process, she said.
We teach kids that its OK to talk about the person who died. We try to make them understand that death is a part of life, Mrs. DePerno said. Its going to be a fun day. The activities are age appropriate and well have a lot of skilled staff there.
For more information or to register, contact hospice by July 20 by calling 265-3105.
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Manigat & Wragge To Participate In FOX SPORTS 1 Google Hangout Tuesday
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OMAHA, Neb. -- Creighton men's basketball seniors Ethan Wragge and Jahenns Manigat will answer fans questions via the internet during a FOX SPORTS 1 Google Hangout on Tuesday (Jan. 21) at 2:00 p.m. Central.
Tweet in questions on Tuesday morning to @HoopsonFOX including hashtag #BIGEASTChat. Manigat and Wragge will be joined by a Fox Sports 1 analyst during the Google Hangout.


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The Carbon High Dinos boys basketball team traveled north to Lehi February 13 to take on the Pioneers. Unfortunately, the Dinos had a long road trip back home after being defeated 79-53.
The Dinos began the game a little rough and found themselves trailing the Region eight team by 13 points at the half. The second half however found the Dinos rallying a comeback. The team went on a shooting spree, scoring 17 points in the third quarter, however Lehi responded with 23 of their own points to maintain the lead. The fourth quarter also found the Dinos being outscored by the Pioneers 18-11.
According to Dinos head coach Ted Bianco, "we played quite well. Lehi is just an extraordinary team who blew us away."
Leading the way for Carbon was Senior Matt Jewkes who finished the game with 18 points, three of which came from a three point field goal. Following in scoring was Jake Wood and Jeff Anderson who each had 10 points against the Lehi Pioneers. Wood also completed two three point field goals in the Dinos rally in the second half.
The Dinos now find themselves with a 3-5 region eight record and an overall record of 8-12. The team will play again Tuesday against Wasatch on the road. The Dinos hope to improve their record as the season rapidly approaches to an end.
The Dinos will play Friday in the first of their playoff games. This game will determine whether the team will proceed into the playoffs that will also be held in St. George.
According to coach Bianco, "we are capable of defeating the Dixie team. If we fail to execute however, they will definitely put us away along with any chances of advancing into the playoffs. It would sure be nice to spend two weekends in St. George rather than just one."
As the Dinos prepare for their playoff match up, the team has not lost sight of the immediate game at hand on Tuesday.
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How do you get to delivery? Practice, practice, practice. You might not be ready for the baby just yet (still haven't picked out that nursery color?), but your body is certainly gearing up for the big day – and you're reminded of this each time you feel your uterus tightening up.
What causes them?
Braxton Hicks contractions are a bit like a dress rehearsal: Your uterine muscles are flexing in preparation for the big job they'll have to do in the near future. Once again, your pregnancy hormones are hard at work, sending messages to your body to (very slowly) start the process of childbirth.
What you need to know
Braxton Hicks contractions can begin any time after week 20 of pregnancy, increasing through week 32 all the way until real labor starts. Many novice moms-to-be don't notice them as much (or even at all) or feel them as intensely as those who are pregnant for the second time – but even first-timers are aware of them occasionally. They start as a painless tightening that begins at the top of your uterine muscles and spreads downwards. They usually last about 15 to 30 seconds (but sometimes as long as two minutes) and cause your abdomen to become very hard and strangely contorted (almost pointy).
How you can tell them apart from real contractions
Braxton Hicks contractions are irregular and infrequent. Once you get closer to your estimated due date, even these contractions become more frequent and intense – but while these false labor signs can be hard to distinguish from real labor, they're not efficient enough to push your baby out just yet. However real contractions grow stronger, longer and closer together as you near labor; if you notice this and other common labor signs you're likely all systems go.
When it's time to call the doctor
If you notice more than four contractions in an hour you may be in real labor, so call your doctor (especially if you haven't hit 37 weeks and are at risk of preterm labor). Also get in touch with your practitioner if you're in a lot of pain or see any kind of unusual vaginal discharge.
What you can do about Braxton Hicks contractions
- Drink up. Even minor dehydration can cause contractions.
- Move. Try changing your position during a painful contraction — if you're sitting, stand up (and vice versa).
- Visualize. Use these contractions as a chance to practice breathing and visualization techniques you've learned in your childbirth education class. (If your partner's around, make him practice, too.)
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armed with a degree in theology, over the years i have come up with specific questions to ask of christians.
indeed i even attend "alpha courses" (introductory courses to becoming a christian) and put these questions to the hosts (usually under the guise of "well i'm thinking of becoming a christian but i have some questions...)
confrontation and causing offense gets you nowhere. also being impolite just reinforces their smug assertion that atheists are angry.
the question i have had most success with at putting people on the spot goes like this...
"a priest rapes a choirboy. the choirboy becomes depressed and traumatized, rejects jesus and the church (understandably), turns to drugs, dies young and spends an eternity in hell, unsaved and condemned by god.
the priest repents on his deathbed, embraces christ, is forgiven and spends forever in heaven.
by what measure can we consider this to be justice?"
i'm hoping that this question might one day become a meme, so that anyone who brings up the subject of christianity is immediately reminded of this question and has an answer demanded of them.
i have many other questions like this that cannot be simply swatted away with theology, mystery or dogma.
i'd be happy to share them with anyone who is interested.
thanks for reading, let me know if it has an impact on anyone you ask.
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Richard Dawkins frequently says and has written that just because the consequences / outcome of something are distasteful, it doesn't mean its not true. His example is that just because life on earth is hopeless and meaningless ending in death, because there is no God, it doesn't mean that there is a God. An unpleasant uncomfortable outcome doesn't mean athiesm isn't true.
Taking a leaf out of Dawkins book there are several things that can be said about your scenario, which isn't as clever and all condemning as you imagine it to be.
1. The abused person going to hell does so for his own sins, not for the sins committed against him. Lets turn this on its head as an example. Lets say then the boy grows up and before he dies he abuses other boys. He is caught and put on trial and when he is in the dock he gives his defence that he was abused as a child and it became a cycle. What is the judge to do? Is he to say, 'ok that explains it, you can go free' (whilst the victim screams and cries) or does he say, thats terrible but you are still responsible for your own behaviour and that is what you are here called to account for. Being a victim doesn't mean that your not responsible and accountable for your own actions. God holds everyone accountable.
2. The scenario is a plea to justice and injustice. If God is real then the desire for justice we find in ourselves is a faint echo from our creator - who must be all just. As well as being just He is also loving. And so to both the man and the priest he wants to offer forgiveness and salvation, but cannot without justice being done for both of them. So He sends Christ to be punished in their place so that justice is served and love offers the hand of salvation to both. Both of whom are undeserving, but in different ways.
Christ being God meant that His sacrifice was enough justice to cover all crimes. Imagine a homeless drunk with a long rapsheet in Thailand and he starts selling drugs. In Thailand its a capital offence, but he is also a British citizen so the Queen of England sends a message that she will fly to Thailand and take his place and be put to death for him. Thats a pale reflection on Christ's sacrifice.
3. Many people see hell as unfair and wrong. Whenever I have asked someone who holds this view I always ask, "If your daughter was raped and the person was never caught and then died, what would you want God to do to that person" - they always say, send them to hell. The point is, if there is a God we want Him to serve justice the way we see fit. Whereas humility would dictate that He, being the creator, would be better placed to decide how justice should be served.
Those answers may be unpleasant for you. But as Dawkins says, truth does not have to be pleasant in order to be true.
Of course you could go further and ask why justice is important to you. Dawkings rightly argues that without God there is no good or evil, there is just what people do. And somethings are helpful for society and somethings are not. The problem is athiests live as if there is a God, as if there is moral good and evil. Question: Is it the case that the priest abusing the boy would always be wrong, no matter where, when and no matter if everyone around at the time said it was a good. idea. If you say yes to that, then you are living as if there is a God who provides an objective moral standard that is true even if no one believes it. Athiesm teaches in theory that with no God there is no standard, except what society decides. But in this example, and things like the Holocaust, if your honest you would agree that even if society said they were good, they still would be morally wrong. You live as if there is a God, you cannot help it.
Hope that helps.
Your friendly neighborhood Christian.
Justice demands that the punishment fit the crime(s), otherwise it is injustice. We can take the accumulated suffering caused by even a very evil person's crimes and still not be justified in subjecting them to any punishment which is not finite and of the appropriate severity in general. This is especially applicable to Pauline Christians who have a very black or white, fire and brimstone view of justice. If I were to close my child's hand in an hot oven for even a second, regardless of his misdeed or my status (man or god), sane persons would rightly condemn me as a monster and consider the punishment cruel and unusual. Even for lighter or gradualistic views of hell, the punishment does not even come close to matching the crime.
Justice also means that, the person perpetuating the crime is the one who is punished for it or makes amends. Anybody (god or man) can suffer for someone else's sake, but if it is not for his or her own crimes, justice, by definition, has not taken place. Justice by proxy is a contradiction.
Your view that the child is still responsible for his own past mistakes is partially acceptable. (Genetics and upbringing greatly effect human behavior, especially for children, which places partial responsibility for crimes on god, the priest, and parents). However you depart from making a valuable argument when you argue that he is being subject to justice, when the behavior and threatened punishments of god of the bible, and even less so of evangelical Christians, is clearly not just. In addition, the ignorance and evils condoned and committed by the god of the OT make him wholly unworthy to enact any form of justice against anybody.
God's choice of applying justice to the boy versus the priest must fall into one of these cases, in your scenario:
- God must hold everyone accountable, justice means his hands are tied.
- God chooses to hold everyone accountable, and can choose who to show mercy.
In the first scenario, god must hold everyone accountable. Ignoring my argument that god's punishments are not just to being with, you cannot argue that god must apply (that form of) justice to the child (as you do in #1), then argue that god can make exceptions. These are mutually exclusive, thus the first choice cannot be true with a Christian god.
The second choice is, god chooses to hold everyone accountable. You cannot argue that god is loving, but then argue that he, being the one who chooses to enact justice, capable of making exceptions, chooses to save the regretful priest simply because the priest accepts him, and chooses not to save the (mentally ill) boy. Love prefers mercy over justice, and (unjust) punishments which fulfill no purpose (i.e. the protection of society, or rehabilitation of the criminal) are vengeance. Again, these are mutually exclusive, you cannot be said to "love" someone, or claim to be "merciful" toward anyone who you subject to eternal vengeance.
Either god is not loving, or he cannot save anybody from justice, Christians included.
We've heard your apologetic views before; they still don't work and only help to reinforce our view that Christians (particularly evangelists) have very warped views.
You also misrepresent Dawkins' and most atheists views of morality, which you can get a better idea of here:
Dawkins' reference to the Bible and the Quran is dealing with the fact that they actually condone slavery, rape and misogyny, ethnic cleansing, child murder, infanticide and other moral abominations. Pre-civil war, Southerners, (especially evangelical preachers), actually quoted many biblical passages (from Yaweh-Moses/Jesus/Paul) to support slavery. There are no passages which could be quoted prescribing abolition. Yet, most Christians oppose slavery and many forms of misogyny... in other words, even Christians get their morals from a source other than god, even contradicting and decrying his morals. That source is plain and simple human philosophy and reasoning.
Hi Dave
I don't think I misrepresented Dawkins, its in his book, The Blind Watchmaker. He is just contradictory as he cannot live with the conclusions that athiesm takes him too, just as Burtrand Russel couldn't (and admitted it), and John Paul Satre.
The caricature of the Old Testement is just a lack of understanding. I would recommend the book, Is God a moral monster by Paul Copan. The likes of Dawkins are so hell bent on destroying all religion he is not at all careful to understand his opponents positions. In debates with people like John Lennox, you here the christian say, 'well the God you don't beleive in, I don't believe in either' - as its a strawman caricature.
I would touch on hell, which again you present a caricature. In the Bible there are degrees of punishment in hell depending on the severity of the crimes. Peoples experience of hell will be vastly different, and it is the judge of all the earth who IS able to judge justly. It is also a topic that Christians, even evangelical christians disagree on. Jesus talks about few blows and many blows in regard to different levels of justice. Some see that to mean that when the set number of blows is over, the punishment is over, and they cease to exist. Others believe that the reason hell is eternal is because people keep rejecting God and sinning and so stay in a cycle of punishment. No one really believes that a finite sin is repaid with infinite punishment. Its just the argument athiests keep coming up with.
In terms of your scenarios, the correct option is that God holds all people accountable and holds out the offer of salvation to all people. Those who reject the offer suffer justice, those who accept, justice is already done on the cross. So God is both loving and just.
You mention that justice is a person paying for their own crimes. That is true. However, we know and aspire to more than that. Hollywood spends millions on films depicting one persons sacrifice on behalf of others, its heroic and there is something in us that resonates with it as a nobel act. How nobel it is is often scene in how unworthy those being saved are. I think our creator is able to solve the love and justice issue in a way that is mind boggling, i.e the cross.
Of course people have abused christianity and used it to do evil, like the crusades. Unfortunately that is human nature. Politicians do it but we still believe in the political system, atleast to some degree. A doctor in the UK, Harold Shipmen, killed scores of his patients, but we still keep the medical service. As the Bible says, human nature is corrupt.
It doesn't matter that a christian says he does not believe the cruel stuff in the bible. His religion is based ON the bible. He is expected to believe it! We can rightly debate them regarding the savagery required and promoted by the bible , and the brutal acts and statements of god in the bible. We all know that lots of christians are nice, kind folks. Still, their beliefs are vicious, irrational, and anti-intellectual.
Dogly, I think you cauht hold of the wrong end of the dog ;-)
Evangelical christians like myself do believe the Bible, but your making the mistake of thinking we are picking and choosing, which we are not. What savagery is promoted and required in the Bible of Christians today? That you think I am ignoring.
This is a straw man that comes up over and over again. I am happy to see though that you are still in your right mind when it comes to saying that lots of christians are nice folk. Some on this website are saying christians are evil. The mind boggles!
What savagery is promoted and required in the Bible of Christians today?
It does not matter if the savagery is "required of christians today". Savagery is savagery, and the fact that it exists in the Old Testament, condoned (and often commanded by) Yaweh (through Moses), and occasionally shows up in the new testament (albeit in much smaller degrees), is a good reason to reject the OT and anything even extended from it as being derived from a divine source. What is immoral remains immoral under grace or otherwise.
However, it should be noted that Joshua did not invite Christians to reject the OT or its laws. The writers of the NT repeatedly asserted their claims by quoting OT scriptures, and Joshua himself said of the LoM and previous prophets:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.
But maybe you meant something other than the copy and paste "fulfilled by Jesus" I've seen so much of.
By straw man do you mean that Christians actually do "believe the cruel stuff in the bible", but have some reason (other than the one mentioned above) that it shouldn't be objectionable? Do you mean that the OT (and to lesser degree the NT) don't have the Israeli's doing things as evil as we make them out to be? What part of Dogly's claim is creating a straw man, if neither of these?
As for the "saying christians are evil" thing, it is some apologists' defense of many OT events/laws, or attempt to brush them off that I (and many non-Christians here and elsewhere) find so disturbing, more so than (most of) Christians general behavior.
As I pointed out before, I believe modern Christians practice many moral views that are not found in either the OT or NT, and outright reject many things as evil which are found in the OT.
No, none of us is saying all christians are evil. We are saying CHRISTIANITY is evil. The teachings of your faith are heartless. The punishment, or more correctly, the revenge it promises is without compassion or justice. The belief that all but you holy ones will be burned for eternity - is that nice?
Now there's the straw man. You've placed all of Christianity all behind one doctrine, instead of the actual 1000 versions of that one doctrine that actually exist among Christians.
Name a Christian sect that categorically doesn't believe in hell. If there are any, there are less than five.
Name a Christian sect that doesn't believe in Original Sin. There may be some, but again, they would be fringe groups. The main issue for mainstream Christianity seems to be what Original Sin really means and what the consequences are. Not that it exists in the first place
Sure, on the surface, there are sects that have humane, compassionate beliefs. But the core doctrines of Christianity such as Original Sin, infinite punishment for finite crimes and vicarious redemption (a human version of scapegoating) are deeply disturbing, immoral and inhuman. And those are shared by 95% of all believers in one form of another. Even if they don't place much emphasize on it in some cases
I've been a member and believer in a variety of christian churches, and have read and heard hundreds of sermons, books, articles, apologetics, pamphlets, etc. from virtually every kind of christian faith. I've also listened to christian and atheist debates, talks on discussion shows, etc.. I've read through the bible multiple times, studying passages closely (line upon line, precept upon precept), even believing that my understanding was being inspired by the holy ghost, experienced the whole "burning bosom", inspired rush of knowledge in my head, touched by god's love, etc.. Now with this context in mind...
No one really believes that a finite sin is repaid with infinite punishment.
You can state "really" to soften the idea, however, many, many of the people and articles mentioned above DID and DO believe exactly that. I agree that to make the most biblical passages make sense together, you have to accept the idea of few or many stripes, "until the debt is payed", etc. Many Christians do not though (mostly found in southern evangelist circles), and it is no straw man to attack this view, and every variety of it.
Those who reject the offer suffer justice, those who accept, justice is already done on the cross.
You mention that justice is a person paying for their own crimes. That is true. Hollywood spends millions on films depicting one persons sacrifice on behalf of others, its heroic and there is something in us that resonates with it as a nobel act.
A person making any sacrifice for others is not a valid analogy (regardless of how noble the person making that sacrifice is). A person being punished for another person's evils is the analogy we are looking for. Justice is not fulfilled. This does not solve the problem I posed at all (which already acknowledges and rejects proxy justice).
Again, why bother enforcing justice if its enforced by choice, if you are going to do something that (illogically) allows you to ignore it? Just ignore Justice without the illogical sacrifice!
If you have no choice in the fulfilling of justice (i.e. it was some kind of eternal law which god must obey), how are you then choosing to ignore it in some cases! This would require an acceptance that justice can somehow be fulfilled by punishing an innocent person, and not affecting the guilty person at all! Hence, fine connoisseurs of skepticism such as those found here, find the Christian view of justice mind boggling (sorry for stealing). We find the doctrines of some subset of churches, which suggest that god is tossing babies into Hades or Gehenna or what have you to be very disturbing (as most Christians do, too). However, even just the fundamental tenet of paying for another's sins (justice by proxy), that is required by any and all versions of Christianity, do not make any sense. Arguing otherwise is where non-Christians see Christian beliefs about after-life justice as weird, evil, or just plain wrong.
I don't think I misrepresented Dawkins, its in his book, The Blind Watchmaker.
A full bodied, full context quote would help. (A quote straight from a hard-copy of his book, as I have seen "Christians" misquote and dishonestly edit videos of him repeatedly). Never-the-less, the video I showed you did demonstrate that he offers at least one clearly defined source of morality, and specifically rejected the idea, not of morality, but "absolute" morality like those found in scriptures (i.e. biblical, quranic) as actually being immoral. He may or may not have contradicted himself (or maybe poorly worded his statement on morality, or maybe was misquoted) elsewhere, but I haven't read that book. Here is another quote from him, though:
Over the centuries, we've moved on from Scripture to accumulate precepts of ethical, legal and moral philosophy. We've evolved a liberal consensus of what we regard as underpinnings of decent society, such as the idea that we don't approve of slavery or discrimination on the grounds of race or sex, that we respect free speech and the rights of the individual. All of these things that have become second nature to our morals today owe very little to religion, and mostly have been won in opposition to the teeth of religion.
True story. Sad but true.
he cannot live with the conclusions that athiesm takes him too,
You are putting words into people's mouths (or heads). You cannot read his mind and come to such a conclusion. In general, atheists complain about Christians straw-manning us just as often in response to christian statements about what we think, what our beliefs regarding morality are, etc., as Christians do. This is such an example.
The caricature of the Old Testement is just a lack of understanding.
Wrong. I'm quite aware of the history and context of ethnic cleansing, slavery, forced marriages/concubines, cruel and unsual punishments, etc. that the OT speaks of, both as claimed to be practiced by the Jews, as well as the neighboring nations. I am also aware of many philosophical arguments made for seeing them in a different light. Most aspects of the culture, reasoning, and context for these things can even be found directly in the OT and NT themselves. I simply reject them as coming from a god, and rather see them (considering the context for their existence) as being the stories of an ignorant ancient culture playing "god chicken" with their neighboring cultures.
Paul Copan
Stop right there. Paul Copan is a terrible apologist that is at ends with the majority of even Christian biblical scholars. Here is a good link to a free critique of Is God a moral monster (by a much more educated Christian by the name of Thom Stark).
Download the Review: Is God a Moral Compromiser?
As Stark puts it: "Contemporary popular apologists tend to look for any way to salvage the text, no matter how unlikely or untenable the argument. They'll use scholarly sources selectively, or pounce on one scholar's argument and run away with it, with-out any concern for the fact the vast majority of scholars haven't been persuaded by it." If an apologist's claims cannot even sway Christian scholars, and receive excess criticism from their fellow Christians for dishonesty and ignorance, their words aren't going to be persuading any changes in atheist attitudes towards religious texts, especially for those themselves who know more about the same topics than the author of the apologetics.
Thats crazy to see you quote Thom. He and I went to the same seminary together in the same class. I dropped out though when I realized it was a pointless life pursuit. I remember when I first got there and was expressing my doubts with the inspiration of the bible and he was criticizing me for it. My how times have changed.


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Opponent: vs. Toronto (5-2-1)
After what seemed like an eternity, the New York Rangers
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the puck out of its own zone. A steady
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Wednesday, October 15, 2008
CrockPot Red Ribs Recipe
Day 289.
My mom brought over a few Cooking Light magazines this weekend, and this one recipe caught my eye right away. I learned that "Red cooking refers to a Chinese technique of braising meat in a soy sauce and sherry mixture. The 'red' comes from the color soy sauce acquires after long cooking."
I know how to cook things for a long time.
I did change the recipe a bit---I added more honey. After the meat cooked for a while, the sauce tasted bland, so I quadrupled the honey. This probably means it can no longer be featured in Cooking Light, but now it tastes better.
The Ingredients.
adapted from Jan/Feb 2008 issue Cooking Light, page 130.
--2 lbs boneless beef short ribs (I used 1 lb short ribs, 1 lb stew meat)
--2 tsp ground ginger
--4 cloves smashed and chopped garlic
--1/2 cup cooking sherry
--3/4 cup gluten free beef broth
--6 T soy sauce (La Choy and Tamari Wheat-Free are GF)
--1/4 cup honey
--1/4 to 1/2 tsp red pepper flakes (I used 1/4, and the kids ate it)
--1 (8oz) can sliced bamboo shoots, drained
--1 (8oz) can water chestnuts, sliced or whole, your choice
--1 cinnamon stick
--2 cups sliced mushrooms (I forgot these. I bought them, but then forgot them in the crisper drawer)
The Directions.
I used a 6 quart crockpot. Any size 4 quarts and up will work.
Rinse off your meat and add to the crockpot. Open the cans of bamboo and water chestnuts and drain. Add dried ginger powder. Add mushrooms (boy I wish I hadn't forgotten those guys), and the cinnamon stick. Smash the garlic, chop and add. Do a happy dance that this is the only chopping, and make a mental note to have some of that already-chopped stuff on hand in the future.
Add your wet ingredients.
Stir to distribute.
Cover and cook on low for 8 hours, or until meat has reached desired tenderness.
The Verdict.
We all ate this! Hooray! I am glad that I only added a bit of the red pepper flakes, because there was not one whine of "this is too spicy"----I, actually, would have preferred some more heat, but I'm so glad to know that the kids had some protein this week. Other than peanut butter.
Adam had two servings. I made a big pot of brown rice to soak up the juice. Tasty, without being too sweet.
In a line-up, the Korean ribs would win----the kids really liked those, too.
I will make this again. I really liked the water chestnuts.
25 comments:
This sounds tasty. I will have to try it. Though I probably won't put the cloves in. That is one spice I don't really care for. But I can't wait to try it. I have tried a bunch of your recipes and I have loved each one. Keep it up your almost there!!
- October 15, 2008 at 7:39 AM
- Gretchen Noelle said...
Gracious! I was just salivating over this recipe last night in the magazine! Great switch to make it in the crockpot. Can't wait to try it!
- October 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM
- Shannon said...
I just found your site yesterday. Why did I just hear about this yesterday! I have never been so excited about my crockpot in my whole life. I have used one now at least a couple times a month for most of my married life (13 years) but I never knew so much was possible. I am so excited I blogged about you here: http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/sikes1995/604745/ . Thanks for the great site!
- October 15, 2008 at 9:25 AM
- Fortress of Awesome said...
Very good photo!
Looks delish, I will have to give this a try, thanks :)
- October 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM
- mom2nji said...
I just found your site yesterday, and I am so excited I love my crock pot but I needed some new ideas! I have 2 lbs of pet. sirloin I need to cook do you think it could work?
- October 15, 2008 at 10:01 AM
- Crockpot Lady said...
Pet sirloin?
should I be worried about you?
- October 15, 2008 at 10:27 AM
- Sherryl said...
I just bought a roaster oven...can I use crockpot recipes on the low temp?
- October 15, 2008 at 10:29 AM
- Little Ol' Liz said...
You used cooking Sherry? Someone actually uses Cooking Sherry? Let me ask you this, is it something you would drink? Heavens no -- it's way too salty! Go to your Liquor Store and ask their recommendation if you don't drink, but intend to cook with alcohol. If Sherry isn't your style, go with a sweet Vermouth. Those are much better choices.
(shudders at the thought of Cooking Sherry)
- October 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM
- Maricriss said...
I just found your blog through PolkadotPicketFence. I absolutly love what you're doing and after taking a quick glance at some of your recipes I will be trying out your buffalo lasagna.
Sounds so yummy:-)
- October 15, 2008 at 10:53 AM
- Amiyrah said...
oh my gosh! it's so funny that you posted a short ribs recipe today....we are having short ribs in the slow cooker today! I'm adapting a paula deen recipe in the slow cooker and I can't wait to taste it tonight with some buttered rice. *slurp* so yum! Now i'm going to have to look out for more short ribs to make this recipe too! I love anything with soy sauce and honey :o)
- October 15, 2008 at 10:55 AM
- Angie (mighty-nice) said...
That looks good! I posted one of my favorite crock pot recipes on my blog today - it also has a Chinese flair to it:
Love your site - I actually tried and reviewed a few of your recipes on my blog recently...
- October 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM
- Crockpot Lady said...
ah! Liz, you need to come and hold my hand then, at the liquor store! I *know* where the cooking sherry is, it's near the salad dressing! I don't even know what regular sherry looks like...
but I know margaritas! :-0
- October 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I'm with little ol' liz on the cooking sherry--get some real stuff!
I came to post a garlic tip, though, that I'm actually stealing from Rachael Ray. Rather than use that prechopped stuff, which is just not good, to me, use your handheld grater and just grate it in. So much quicker and easier than chopping!
- October 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM
- Joie de vivre said...
I just found your blog through a link at A Cup of Jo's blog. Your resolution is certainly grand and it looks as if you are keeping it! I use my crock pot about once a week, but it always makes so much I don't think I could use it every day. For instance, I have a garbanzo bean, ham, celery and parsnip soup bubbling away in my crock pot right now, but it will make enough for two dinners and a couple lunches! Perhaps I just cook too much in it. I am so excited to read your site and learn from your methods. Congratulations for keeping your resolution!
- October 15, 2008 at 3:22 PM
hi steph. yesterday was the first time i've had rice pudding. it was soooo good :) i have no idea how its made but i was hoping maybe u could show me how in the crockpot?
- October 15, 2008 at 3:33 PM
- Cindy Keery said...
Yum, this sounds good! I love my crockpot, too! I have the one on the right of your banner.
- October 15, 2008 at 3:36 PM
- Suzi said...
This look sgreat and so does you Korean ribs, I cant wait to try both!
- October 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM
- gabes_wife said...
What happened to the potato and leek soup? I bought leeks yesterday. What do I do with now? :( I *guess* I could look for a recipe somewhere else. Don't make me do that.
- October 15, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I have these cooking away at home...I'm glad that you mentioned that you used beef stew meat b/c that what I had on hand...
Can't wait to get home :) I bet is smells pretty awesome right about now!
- October 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM
- Pam said...
Hey Joie de vivre, maybe you just need a smaller Crockpot. I live alone and have made tons of Stephanie's dishes in my smaller Crockpot just by reducing the volumes listed in her ingredient list.
- October 16, 2008 at 8:27 AM
- Kids Recycled Crafts said...
Sounds amazing. I always see ribs at the store but don't really know what to do with them! And I love the idea of putting it in the crockpot! Great blog and I will definatly be back to let you know how this taste and for more recipes!
- October 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM
- HiHoOhio said...
I made this one too a couple weeks back....loved it! Kids too!
- October 16, 2008 at 3:32 PM
- roxyzrockett said...
Short ribs
Soy Sauce
Simple and delicious.
- October 17, 2008 at 8:29 AM
- kikiverde said...
This looks really good! It might sound odd, but I only like slow-cooked beef so this would be perfect for me to make for hubby and I! Yum!
- October 17, 2008 at 9:24 AM
love your cookbook, but the Red Ribs recipe is missing the cooking time!
I bought a book for myself, then after trying 2 recipes, bought one for both of my daughters..thanks!!
- March 7, 2010 at 11:13 PM
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16 U.S. Code § 1452 - Congressional declaration of policy
The Congress finds and declares that it is the national policy—
(1) to preserve, protect, develop, and where possible, to restore or enhance, the resources of the Nation's coastal zone for this and succeeding generations;
(2) to encourage and assist the states to exercise effectively their responsibilities in the coastal zone through the development and implementation of management programs to achieve wise use of the land and water resources of the coastal zone, giving full consideration to ecological, cultural, historic, and esthetic values as well as the needs for compatible economic development, which programs should at least provide for—
(A) the protection of natural resources, including wetlands, flood plains, estuaries, beaches, dunes, barrier islands, coral reefs, and fish and wildlife and their habitat, within the coastal zone,
(B) the management of coastal development to minimize the loss of life and property caused by improper development in flood-prone, storm surge, geological hazard, and erosion-prone areas and in areas likely to be affected by or vulnerable to sea level rise, land subsidence, and saltwater intrusion, and by the destruction of natural protective features such as beaches, dunes, wetlands, and barrier islands. [1]
(C) the management of coastal development to improve, safeguard, and restore the quality of coastal waters, and to protect natural resources and existing uses of those waters,
(D) priority consideration being given to coastal-dependent uses and orderly processes for siting major facilities related to national defense, energy, fisheries development, recreation, ports and transportation, and the location, to the maximum extent practicable, of new commercial and industrial developments in or adjacent to areas where such development already exists,
(F) assistance in the redevelopment of deteriorating urban waterfronts and ports, and sensitive preservation and restoration of historic, cultural, and esthetic coastal features,
(G) the coordination and simplification of procedures in order to ensure expedited governmental decisionmaking for the management of coastal resources,
(H) continued consultation and coordination with, and the giving of adequate consideration to the views of, affected Federal agencies,
(I) the giving of timely and effective notification of, and opportunities for public and local government participation in, coastal management decisionmaking,
(J) assistance to support comprehensive planning, conservation, and management for living marine resources, including planning for the siting of pollution control and aquaculture facilities within the coastal zone, and improved coordination between State and Federal coastal zone management agencies and State and wildlife agencies, and
(3) to encourage the preparation of special area management plans which provide for increased specificity in protecting significant natural resources, reasonable coastal-dependent economic growth, improved protection of life and property in hazardous areas, including those areas likely to be affected by land subsidence, sea level rise, or fluctuating water levels of the Great Lakes, and improved predictability in governmental decisionmaking;
(4) to encourage the participation and cooperation of the public, state and local governments, and interstate and other regional agencies, as well as of the Federal agencies having programs affecting the coastal zone, in carrying out the purposes of this chapter;
(5) to encourage coordination and cooperation with and among the appropriate Federal, State, and local agencies, and international organizations where appropriate, in collection, analysis, synthesis, and dissemination of coastal management information, research results, and technical assistance, to support State and Federal regulation of land use practices affecting the coastal and ocean resources of the United States; and
(6) to respond to changing circumstances affecting the coastal environment and coastal resource management by encouraging States to consider such issues as ocean uses potentially affecting the coastal zone.
[1] So in original. The period probably should be a comma.
Source(Pub. L. 89–454, title III, § 303, as added Pub. L. 92–583, Oct. 27, 1972, 86 Stat. 1281; amended Pub. L. 96–464, § 3,Oct. 17, 1980, 94 Stat. 2060; Pub. L. 101–508, title VI, § 6203(b),Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1388–301; Pub. L. 102–587, title II, § 2205(b)(2),Nov. 4, 1992, 106 Stat. 5050.)
1992—Par. (2). Pub. L. 102–587made technical amendment to directory language of Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(1). See 1990 Amendment note below.
1990—Par. (2). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(1), as amended by Pub. L. 102–587, substituted "as well as the needs for compatible" for "as well as to needs for".
Par. (2)(B). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(2), substituted "likely to be affected by or vulnerable to sea level rise, land subsidence," for "of subsidence".
Par. (2)(C) to (J). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(3), redesignated subpars. (C) to (I) as (D) to (J), respectively, and added subpar. (C).
Par. (2)(K). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(4), added subpar. (K).
Par. (3). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(5), inserted "including those areas likely to be affected by land subsidence, sea level rise, or fluctuating water levels of the Great Lakes," after "hazardous areas,".
Pars. (5), (6). Pub. L. 101–508, § 6203(b)(6), added pars. (5) and (6).
1980—Pub. L. 96–464, in amending section generally, expanded declaration of policy to provide for higher level of protection for significant natural coastal resources and inserted provisions for special area management planning to increase predictability for necessary coastal-dependent economic growth, improve hazard mitigation, and improve predictability in government decisionmaking.
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