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Fact Sheet -- Implementation of the New Source Review Program for Particulate Matter Less Than 2.5 Micrometers (PM2.5) -- Proposed Extension of Existing Administrative Stay and Proposal to Repeal the Stayed Provision
- On July 16, 2009, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) proposed to extend its administrative stay of a portion of the rule implementing New Source Review (NSR) Program for fine particle pollution by nine months. This part of the rule is known as "the grandfathering provision for PM2.5."
- This provision allowed federal Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) permit applicants to meet permitting requirements for particulate matter by relying on requirements applicable to larger particles – those 10 micrometers in diameter and smaller (PM10) – as a surrogate for meeting the requirements for particles 2.5 micrometers in diameter and smaller (PM2.5) if they applied for the permit before July 15, 2008 and had not yet received their permit
- A "stay" means that the provision is not in effect for a prescribed period of time. On June 1, 2009, EPA administratively stayed this provision until September 1, 2009. In this notice, the Agency proposes to extend the administrative stay for an additional nine months. This extension would keep the stay in effect until June 2010.
- EPA will also propose to repeal the grandfathering provision for PM2.5 in a separate rulemaking action. The extended stay will provide sufficient time to enable EPA to propose and take public comment on the issues associated with repealing the grandfathering provision for PM2.5.
- Congress established the NSR program as part of the 1977 Clean Air Act Amendments and modified it in the 1990 Amendments. NSR is a national preconstruction clean air permitting program that provides important public health and environmental protection by ensuring:
- attainment and maintenance of air quality standards when factories, industrial boilers and power plants are modified or built. In areas that do not meet the national air quality standards, NSR ensures that new emissions do not slow progress toward cleaner air. In areas that meet the standards, especially pristine areas like national parks, NSR ensures that new emissions fall within protective air quality standards.
- that state of the art control technology is installed at new plants or at existing plants that are undergoing a major modification.
- NSR is comprised of several preconstruction review permitting regulations for stationary sources locating in attainment or nonattainment areas. The part of NSR applicable to large (major) sources locating in attainment areas is called the Prevention of Significant Deterioration (PSD) program.
- The grandfathering provision for PM2.5 is one of a series of amendments made to several new source review (NSR) regulations as part of the final rule entitled "Implementation of the New Source Review (NSR) Program for Particulate Matter Less Than 2.5 Micrometers (PM2.5)" published in the Federal Register on May 16, 2008. The grandfathering provision applies exclusively to the permitting requirements under the federal PSD program in states lacking EPA-approved PSD programs.
- EPA's May 2008, final rule addressed several NSR program requirements for sources that emit PM2.5 and the pollutants that contribute to its formation, i.e., precursors. The requirements addressed include:
- State Implementation Plans (SIPs) outlining modifications to state NSR programs to account for emissions of fine particle pollution are due to EPA in three years.
- Timing for implementation of the rule:
- On its effective date the rule applied immediately:
- in states where the federal PSD program (40 CFR 52.21) applies (either EPA implements the program directly or has delegated that responsibility to the state); and
- in nonattainment areas of states, through the 'transitional' NSR provisions (contained in Appendix S of 40 CFR part 51) until EPA approves a revised SIP.
- States with EPA-approved PSD programs, could (but are not required to) continue to use the interim approach of relying on PM10 (inhalable particles smaller than, or equal to, 10 micrometers in diameter) as a surrogate for PM2.5 for up to three years until their revised SIPs are approved, whichever is sooner.
- On its effective date the rule applied immediately:
- This rule does not require states to account for gases that could condense to form particles (called "condensables") in PM2.5 emissions limits in PSD or nonattainment area NSR permits until January 1, 2011 or a possible earlier date depending on the timing of an upcoming rule that will revise EPA's test methods for measuring emissions of these condensable particles.
- For nonattainment areas, interpollutant offset trading which will allow reductions in direct PM2.5 to offset precursor emissions increases, emissions reductions of one precursor to offset emissions increases of another precursor, and reductions in precursor emissions to offset direct PM2.5 emissions increases.
- On July 15, 2008, and then again on February 10, 2009, the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Sierra Club petitioned EPA to reconsider and administratively stay specific parts of the final rule. The Petition objected to four parts of the final rule, including:
- using the new transition schedule, and continuing to allow the use of the PM10 surrogate policy, for PSD programs in states with PSD programs that EPA has approved in the states' implementation plans;
- "grandfathering" permit applications that were complete, before the rule's July 15, 2008 effective date and that rely on EPA's PM10 Surrogacy Policy, so as to continue reviewing the permit application using PM10 emissions as a surrogate for satisfying the new PM2.5 requirements;
- allowing states to exclude condensable particulate matter from NSR applicability and emission control requirements until January 1, 2011; and
- allowing states to use EPA-recommended PM2.5 precursor trading ratios to offset PM2.5 emissions increases in PM2.5 nonattainment areas
- On January 16, 2009, EPA denied the first petition. However, on April 24, 2009, EPA responded to the second petition, agreeing to reconsider certain aspects of the rule and to administratively stay the challenged grandfathering provision for three months.
- Interested parties can download information on this action from Regulatory Actions.
- The notice of proposed rulemaking to extend the administrative stay and other background information are also available either electronically in www.regulations.gov, EPA's electronic public docket and comment system, or in hard copy at EPA's Air and Radiation Docket and Information Center, Environmental Protection Agency, Room B102, 1301 Constitution Avenue, NW, Washington, DC. Docket Number EPA-HQ-OAR-2003-0062.
- The Public Reading Room is open from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding legal holidays. The telephone number for the Public Reading Room is (202) 566-1744, and the telephone number for the Air and Radiation Docket and Information Center is (202) 566-1742.


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At the beginning of the 1990s many people expected public libraries to go the way of the wagon wheel, buggy whip, typewriter, the drive-in movie and the dinosaur. The booming business of computers made it look like , within a few years, libraries would become extinct or at least used much less.
The electronic era of computers was supposed to replace books and other services libraries provided. Many experts anticipated that people would not visit the libraries because everything would be at their fingertips, in their own homes.
But the public libraries have survived by evolving and adapting to the changing environment. In fact, the facilities have thrived during the past decade.
In a recent copy of Directions for Utah Libraries, a statistical review was published that showed library use is up and has increased in almost every category measured.
Not surprisingly, some of the growth has taken place as libraries have become part of the purveyors of electronics by providing computers with Internet service.
Most public libraries, even smaller facilities, provide some kind of worldwide web access. The computer, rather than being the comet that killed the public library, has become its nourishment.
According to the newsletter, the number of stations installed at libraries has increased by almost 40 percent within the last three years and use has climbed 25 percent in the last two. Many library personnel report people lined up during heavy use hours to utilize the computers.
But what about books, the traditional mainstays of library patronage?
In the book category, a surprising revelation has come. People who predicted the end of the paper book were wrong, at least until now and into the immediate future.
Public library statistics show that in 1998 19,425,917 books were circulated. The numbers changed dramatically by last year, but went up instead of down; 2001 saw 24,591,944 books circulated.
Not only has the number of patrons increased, the newsletter pointed out that many items people are checking out at the libraries have also increased. The situation has happened despite the fact that library acquisition spending is down and that most libraries are limited in space. Therefore most new acquisitions that come in replace older materials that have to be weeded out. There is only so much shelf space.
Local libraries in the Carbon County area are experiencing similar growth in patrons and circulation despite the fact that, unlike the rest of the state, the areas population is relatively stable.
"The number of people coming in the city library and checking out materials has definitely increased over the last four years," explains Norma Procarione, Price city's library director. "And the Internet use is up, too. We actually do have people standing in line to use the computers sometimes and they often get anxious when they can't get right on a machine."
The official figures from the Price City Library shows some interesting figures, much larger than most people would suspect. Total visits to the library last year were 542,181.
The Price library personnel answered 3366 reference questions. The total circulation for the library for last year was 59,820 with a little over 20,000 of those items being children's materials.
More substantial growth has taken place at the Helper City Library where, two years ago, the regular patrons only numbered about 45.
"We now have 350 people using the library regularly," notes Helper librarian Debbie Petersen. "We also now have a circulation of between 1200-1300 items per year, where only a couple of years ago it was half that."
Petersen attributes the growth to the installation of electronic media at the Helper facility, including Internet computers.
"People now come in and use the computers, and then they check something out," states Petersen. "We're just more modern and that attracts people."
The newsletter points out that one of the major changes in public libraries to keep their names in front of people is also due to the outreach programs that a number of the institutions have put in place, such as story hours and literacy programs.
"We have our regular story hours on Wednesday (5 p.m.) and Thursday (1 p.m.)," explains Procarione. "We also now have another story hour on Tuesday where Dina Wise comes in with her yellow Labrador, Sunni, and tells stories to kids. This addition, with the dog there, has become very popular."
Other electronic media availability, besides computers has also increased.
In the 1960s, some of the most popular items that could be checked out from libraries were movie projectors, slide projectors as well as the movies and slides that ran on the machines.
Most libraries do not check out equipment anymore. But the growth of compact disks and video tapes have gone crazy as people are able to play them on their own equipment at home.
Libraries primarily lean toward providing educational materials on the mediums. But music and popular movies are also part of some the library collections in Utah.
The situation frequently makes for a debate amongst library boards and city/county councils/commissions across the state whether government institutions are competing unfairly with the private sector.
"We have public performance rights on all the CDs and videos we have," points out Procarione. "Most of what we have is educational and many of our CDs are books on disc. Few people want the books on cassette anymore."
Obtaining public performance rights on materials can cost a significant amount of money.
The local public libraries have small budgets for materials so the facilities do not purchase many items that require the same kind of increased cost.
But books are still the mainstay of libraries and the related costs are going up every year.
According to the Library and Trade Almanac, the average cost of an adult fiction hardcover book is $28.34, while all types of adult hardcover books average $67.32.
The School Library Journal reports that the average hardcover children's or young adult book costs $18.78.
Considering that any book a library buys is checked out or looked at many times in it's circulation life, the cost per use is very low and the public gets a bargain when they check one out or use it for any purpose.
Procarione and Petersen have applied for grants in the past to help supplement the collections, electronic media and programs at the local libraries.
Grant money sometimes comes from various government programs. But grant funding for libraries can also come from private agencies or foundations.
For instance, the first public facility that existed in Price before the present one was built in the 1950s was a "Carnegie Library."
The local facility was one of a series that was constructed primarily with funding from Andrew Carnegie, the 19th century industrialist who put into a foundation to build such institutions.
"We are presently working on a grant for literacy based education from Utah's Promise," stated Procarione.
While funding continues to stagnate from official sources, the use of libraries increases.
Despite the ongoing money problems, public libraries are still alive and busier than ever.


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MASSENA The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has approved an estimated $243 million cleanup plan for the Grasse River, according to St. Regis Mohawk officials who said the EPA notified the tribe, as a stakeholder in the project, of the decision on Thursday.
The record of decision, expected to be announced by the federal agency today, appears to be the answer that Alcoa and north country leaders have awaited. It comes one week after the aluminum manufacturer committed to a $600 million project to modernize its facilities preserving at least 900 jobs and securing its presence in Massena for decades in exchange for a supply of low-cost hydroelectric power from the New York Power Authority. The deal was contingent upon the EPAs approval of the plan to clean up toxins in the river, which Alcoa is obligated to fund.
The EPA would not confirm the decision, but U.S. Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., who pushed the EPA to approve the plan, said in a statement: While its not official yet, this EPA decision is wonderful news for the north country on two fronts: it will clean up the Grasse River and allow Alcoa the flexibility and certainty it needs to retain over 900 jobs and expand its operations at the East Plant, which we believe will inevitably create even more jobs. This is one of the best things to happen to the region and St. Lawrence County in a very long time.
Elected officials at the municipal, county, state and federal level have urged the EPA to approve the mid-range remediation plan as a way to clean up the river without costing Alcoa so much that the company might choose not to move ahead with the modernization. A more complex proposal supported by the tribe would have cost an estimated $1.3 billion.
Mr. Schumer described the tentative project as a boon to the north country.
The $243 million plan will also be a shot in the arm for the environment and the economy that will put many people to work in the cleanup efforts, he said.
Massena Town Supervisor Joseph D. Gray said, The proposed remediation makes the best of a bad situation. It significantly improves the quality of the river at a reasonable cost to Alcoa.
The plan is practical and makes sense, Mr. Gray said. I consider this good news for the great community.
Tribal officials, however, say the plan is unacceptable. It calls for partially dredging parts of the river shore and capping a portion of the river bottom with layers of sand, silt, gravel and armor stone. Another other portion of the river bottom will be capped with sand and silt, but no gravel or armor stone. Tribal officials contend that the plan would leave 93 percent of the contaminants in place. They support dredging the river bottom to completely remove the contaminants.
Im disappointed that the EPA would choose such a poor remedy that isnt a permanent solution, Chief Ron LaFrance said in a release. Their mission has been compromised so industrial pollution perpetrators can continue to violate the environment with little or no conscience. Whats even sadder is that jobs won out over the health of the people, jobs that never benefited our community, anyway.
The pollution dates to the 1950s, when Alcoa and Reynolds Metals discharged polychlorinated biphenyls into the river, ultimately contaminating portions of the St. Lawrence River and its tributaries.
The PCBs, tribal officials said, have found their way into the food chain by infiltrating river sediments. They then contaminate smaller organisms, which are eaten by larger and larger predators, and eventually are consumed by humans. They said research has shown that PCBs are then found in human tissue and in breast milk that is passed on to infants.
The EPA has never sufficiently explained or justified the proposed capping remedy, said Ken Jock, tribal environmental division director, in the release.
The EPA has a record of poor stewardship in protecting our environment, with the General Motors partial cleanup, the Reynolds partial cleanup and now with the Alcoa partial cleanup, Chief Paul Thompson said. That is still our land and the EPA should be using our standards for cleanup, not what the Alcoa scientists say should be done.
We will continue to monitor the remedy and we ask EPA to require a perpetual monitoring and maintenance fund be set up just for the Grasse River remedy, Chief Randy Hart said. If the remedy is not effective Alcoa must go back into the river and fix it.
Johnson Newspapers writer Tim Fenster contributed to this report.
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So who likes the game, and why do ya like it?
Also, first post/thread in this board! Yay me!
So who likes the game, and why do ya like it?
Also, first post/thread in this board! Yay me!
I liked it for a long time only thing that got me as the grind character customisation and graphics were absolutely fantastic. I even brought Cash Shop stuff =<
no, to gay.....
I like the character creation and the things you could do to interact with other people but the game's combat sucked, it felt like Second life to me, the sound quality was crap compared to my other games ans most of the skills were the same but with different effects then animations
Character creation is the one that i like the most here but when I reach level 80+ I give up for the grind and dungeon raids which takes hours to finish. But still this is a good game.
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Game: Atlantica Online
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Just started playing this game with a friend of mine. I'm in the PVP server (Lost City).
I'm an Archer, IGN is Impakt.
Just started playing, i love it so far.
to they guy above me: thought yer game was atlantica?
perfect world was nice. for the few minutes i played it. rather play something similar to wow and whatnot. not saying perfect world is bad, it's just that it has that asian game thing. you know, you just get that asian vibe. not a bad thing though, just so many games are like that now.
Epic game, that's all I have to say.
Very good game despite the grind(i actually like it <.<)
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I have been banging my head on this for a couple days. Any help would be appreciated.
I think I'm making a mistake on where to place the bootloader when installing Ubuntu.
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'Top Gun' buzzes back on Blu-ray, and maybe in theaters
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Producer Jerry Bruckheimer insists it took an angelic intervention to get Tom Cruise to sign onto the 1986 film Top Gun a Blue Angels intervention.
Cruise just wouldn't commit to the role of pilot Lt. Pete "Maverick" Mitchell until Bruckheimer secured him an outing with the U.S. Navy's celebrated Blue Angels flight demonstration team. Their jets apparently gave Cruise the need for speed.
"He had the time of his life in that ride. It excited the heck out of him," says Bruckheimer. "Right after, he went to a pay phone they didn't have mobile phones then and he called me up to say 'I'm in.' I can thank the Blue Angels for this."
The gift keeps on giving more than 26 years later: On Tuesday, Paramount Pictures is releasing the film in Blu-ray 3-D for the first time. That comes on the heels of last week's special six-day run for an IMAX 3-D version, which added $2.8 million to Top Gun's $353 million worldwide box office.
"It's a good old-fashioned bad guy vs. good guy kind of a movie, a Western in the sky done in a very contemporary way," says Kelly McGillis, who starred as Cruise's love interest, defense contractor Charlotte "Charlie" Blackwood.
The film, directed by Tony Scott, who died last year, features a who's-who of the biggest stars of the next decade: McGillis; Cruise; Anthony Edwards as sidekick Nick "Goose" Bradshaw; Val Kilmer as Cruise's nemesis, Tom "Iceman" Kazansky; and Meg Ryan as Edwards' young wife. There are even scenes with a young fighter pilot played by Tim Robbins.
"Tony had a great eye for talent, he always found interesting actors, known or unknown," says Bruckheimer.
Earning the Top Gun honors wasn't easy. During the shoot at Miramar Naval Air Station near San Diego (it's now a Marine facility), hot-shot Navy pilots were brought on board to train the actors. Scott Altman, an accomplished Navy pilot, recalls taking Edwards up for a test flight in an F-14.
"We were simulating a spin, there's a lot of dynamic motion, and the camera in back filmed his response to that," says Altman. He doesn't go into details. "But I will give (Edwards) credit. He did not fill his air sickness bag. "
Working on Top Gun presented unusual opportunities for the real pilots, especially when they were asked to buzz the tower, as Cruise's character does throughout the film. Altman did nine such flybys at Naval Air Station Fallon in Nevada, where additional scenes were filmed.
"In the real Navy, if you buzz the tower, when you land they just take your wings away. That's it. And you're done," says Altman. "But they wanted it for the movie. That was one of the neat things about filming."
Rick Rossovich, who played radio intercept officer Ron "Slider" Kerner, recalls that Cruise and Kilmer stayed in separate residences. But the rest of the cast played poker and partied together at a San Diego hotel and would often pull Kilmer into their late-night shenanigans.
"We went down to Tijuana at like 2 in the morning at the drop of a hat," says Rossovich. "Val had the van and we'd all pile in and take off. We had a ball making that movie."
After filming, test audiences were thrilled with the flight sequences, and they loved the romance sequences with McGillis and Cruise enough that they demanded more. Filmmakers were forced to head to Chicago, where Cruise was filming The Color of Money, to shoot additional scenes with McGillis, including one where the two flirt heavily in an elevator.
"The audience felt the romance wasn't earned. They really liked the two of them together on-screen," says Bruckheimer. "We felt we had cheated a little by not having more of it."
After the movie, many of the players went onto other big-name projects. But Rossovich, who starred alongside Steve Martin in the 1987 romantic comedy Roxanne, would eventually settle in Stockholm. He even lost touch with Kilmer, who is the godfather of his 26-year-old son, Roy. But he and Kilmer are just recently back in touch via e-mail.
"We have all kind of gone our own ways and everyone's good. But when you run into the guys, you go right back to the relationship that you had on that day," says Rossovich. "There's a bond when you make a movie like that. "
Beyond the enhanced 3-D version, there could be an additional Top Gun in the future. Bruckheimer continues to push for a sequel that would follow Cruise taking to the skies once more.
"We've been trying to get it made for quite a while," says Bruckheimer. "Paramount is enthusiastic about doing it, as are Tom and myself. We just have to get a story that everyone loves."


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- Jennifer said...
I'll bite, John.
These are two of my favorite singers.
JMT. being Catholic, may have a more tightly packed concept of "one Church", but both men have advocated for years that there is a Church Universal.
I can guess your objections, but I don't want to assume. What is it you object to?
- October 4, 2007 at 10:54 AM
- WoundedEgo said...
I am also a singer-songwriter, formerly a christian singer-songwriter. I invite you all to listen at http://woundedego.com
I blogged the other day on the matter of "suspending unbelief" and how, by intentionally believing a song's or sermon's message, one actually experiences the message emotionally and powerfully, just as people do when they watch a good movie. It is "my big thought" at the moment, that I hope to research more and put in my next book. The blog is here: http://bibleshockers.blogspot.com
As to denominations, check out "Every Christian Denomination is Heretical" in my book, "Bible Shockers!" which you can read online free of charge at http://bibleshockers.com
Bill Ross
- October 4, 2007 at 11:49 AM
- Joseph said...
Have you seen the South Park episode, "Christian Rock Hard" in which Cartman & co. start their own Christian band?
In short, Cartman takes 70's and 80's love ballades and changes the words slightly so that Jesus is being praised (with hilarious results). It summarizes what's wrong with contemporary Christian Contemporary Music today. click here
Level with me, Jennifer: don't some of CCM songs just sound a little too, well, sappy? As the Christian record producer tells Cartman: "It seems like you really, really love Christ...No, it sounds like you're IN LOVE with Christ!"
- October 4, 2007 at 11:57 AM
- WoundedEgo said...
Something to note in this song is that Michael Card is, unless I am very mistaken, a hard core Calvinist. When he says that there is "one faith...so freely given to ALL" what he means by "all" (despite the attending photo of a large city) is that the faith was given to "all of the elect." The shepherd lays down his life "for HIS SHEEP." So, there is no universalism here, except in the idea that all "elect" Trinitarians are loved, cherished, cared for, protected... the rest of humankind is, in this thinking, eternally damned to endless suffering in the flames of a burning Hell. This is not an accidental situation to Michael, but rather emanates from the will of an all powerful, all knowing God. This is accomplished to "display his justice" and "for his glory."
So yeah, you have to pretty much turn off all mental activity in order to get choked up at the "great love of our Savior" and such when you listen to Michael Card - which Christians are happy to do. I also note that the song is crafted in such a way that the exclusivity of the love is masked by the frequent but undefined use of the term "all." That is, the emotional impact is "all" when the message contained in it is not in the least bit universal in any real sense.
Smiles, glad handing and expressions of divine love abound in religious meetings, but the actual message of the Catholic-Protestant world is actually packed with a divine loathing of humanity and every intention of inflicting endless millenia of torture upon the huge majority of them.
Calvinism, of course, is much sicker than the Bible, which merely says that the lost will die. But as we have observed elsewhere, the theology of popular culture throughout history is not that of the Bible.
So I rate the song "I" for "Insidious."
Bill Ross
- October 4, 2007 at 12:10 PM
- WoundedEgo said...
Joseph, my wife and I saw a buxom woman with a t-shirt that read "I'm a passionate bride of Christ." My wife and I were embarrassed for her. It sounded like she should have changed it to say "Jesus and I just did it together last Sunday!"
Bill Ross
- October 4, 2007 at 12:14 PM
- Joseph said...
That's funny. By the way, if the church is the bride of Christ, does that imply that Jesus is into polygamous bi-sexual marriage?
- October 4, 2007 at 12:16 PM
- John W. Loftus said...
Jennifer as some have already said people experience the message emotionally. But here goes....
Jesus is a "good shepherd."
"He laid down his life for his sheep."
"He built his church on the rock foundation of faith."
"There is one faith, one hop, one baptism...one church."
"He gave to Simon Peter and to all the twelve the keys of the kingdom."
"Some of his shepherds had pastured themselves on their sheep, so he has come out against them and scattered his people of faith."
See any problems here at all?
- October 4, 2007 at 12:22 PM
- Jennifer said...
Trying to see it from your point of view...are you saying:
* Jesus says he's the Good Shepherd and then he dies so is not shepherding anymore?
* Jesus builds His church on the solid rock of faith which seems like an oxymoron?
* It is exclusive to have one church, one baptism..etc.?
* The keys of the Kingdom were given to some who abused their position and the Good Shepherd, who has died and therefore given his position as shepherd to others, is now leaving his flock with no shepherd....diaspora?
Am I on the right trail?
I would interpret it differently so I'm not on the same page, but maybe I'm getting it from your point of view.
- October 4, 2007 at 12:48 PM
- Jennifer said...
I think you might be mistaken about Michael Card being a "hard core" Calvinist. He is a Calvinist, but he is well read and quotes people from other traditions as well. It seems that a hard core Calvinist would stick to other Calvinists.
JMT and MC collaborating shows me they see themselves as brothers.
The Church Universal is not the same as universalism. Universalism teaches that all roads lead to God, the Church Universal is the reality of God's Spirit leading people into community where they are without adherence to a formal system....in other words, to quote a part of the book, "The Shack":
"Does that mean," asked Mack, "that all roads will lead to you?"
"Not at all," smiled Jesus as he reached for the door handle to the shop. "Most roads don't lead anywhere. What it does mean is that I will travel any road to find you."
- October 4, 2007 at 1:14 PM
- John W. Loftus said...
Jesus is a "good shepherd."
Really now? What about those of us who left the fold? And do you attend a church like the ones I've attended? The more active you become the more problems you see. In fact the one thing to sour you about Christianity is to be a minister. Where's the shepherd? Where's the evidence that the Holy Spirit is guiding the church? This should trouble you, I think.
"He laid down his life for his sheep."
Have you thought about how the death of Jesus does anything for you, or why God demands punishment in order to forgive? That's not offering forgiveness. That's simply giving them their due. And in what sense can someone legitimately pay for my debt anyway? I owed God a perfect life. So if Jesus lived a perfect life he merely did what everyone ws required to do. How does his perfect life have any extra credit to apply toward me?
"He built his church on the rock foundation of faith."
Faith is a rock? In what sense? This makes little sense. At least McDowell says faith is based upon evidence.
"There is one faith, one hope, one baptism...one church."
And divided and splinted into more groups than one can count...even divided on baptism itself.
"He gave to Simon Peter and to all the twelve the keys of the kingdom."
The Catholic/ Protestant split.
"Some of his shepherds had pastured themselves on their sheep, so he has come out against them and scattered his people of faith."
What? When? Why? Why would he allow false pastors in the first place? Why would a good shepherd knowing allow wolves to lead his sheep? Does God do anything...anything?
- October 4, 2007 at 1:22 PM
- Wanderin' Weeta said...
"Do Christians think through the lyrics while listening to one of their popular songs? What would happen if they did?'"
When my Dad died, my nephew sang at his funeral. His choice of song was "I can only imagine". I kept wondering, throughout, how he didn't process the words he was singing; if he had, he would see that he was saying that he didn't know what happens after death. Which is true, but I'm sure he didn't intend that.
The lyrics, in part:
"I can only imagine what it will be like
When I walk by your side
I can only imagine what my eyes will see
When your face is before me
I can only imagine
I can only imagine
Surrounded by your glory
What will my heart feel?
Will I dance for you Jesus,
Or in awe of you be still?
Will I stand in your presence,
Or to my knees will I fall?
Will I sing Halelluja,
Will I be able to speak at all?
I can only imagine
I can only imagine."
- October 4, 2007 at 2:47 PM
- Jon Curry said...
One of my favorites is "Crazy" by MercyMe. The whole premise is Christian beliefs are crazy, and that's just great.
Here's the main chorus:
I have not been called
to the wisdom of this world,
but to a God that's calling out to me.
And even though this world may think
I'm losing touch with reality,
it would be crazy to choose this world over eternity.
Pretty good song. Watch here:
Another good one is "Everything Impossible".
You're everything I cannot see
You're everything I cannot say
I know it all seems so illogical. That's OK.
- October 4, 2007 at 3:12 PM
- Jennifer said...
You'd think I have nothing better to do with my day but sit here and comment.:-'
I know I can't "win" John. I could dredge up philosophical quotes and get into unanswered questions in science, but like you've said a few times it's all about the glasses.
I respect Josh McDowell and I agree that evidence is one part of the reasonable aspect of faith, but faith is still faith even if it's based on reason. My understanding is that faith begins where reason cannot take us...into the mystery of another reality we all sense but cannot grasp which leaves some to choose faith and others to choose reason.
- October 4, 2007 at 4:16 PM
- Michelle said...
Uhm, excuse me, I just fell upon this blog looking for evangelical blogs and....uhm....being a Christian believer...uh, found it rather interesting and I have to say you all have your beliefs well through out and presented so....so, uhm....here's my thoughts about Christian lyrics....I write them and yes, I do think about what I am writing about, but I want to say that I find many of the newer praise songs and contemporary Christian lyrics very blah and boring and I think this may have something to do with the music industry's problems of stifling creativity and influencing Christian music and also I think there is an influence in the American Christian culture to make Christianity "light, marketable and accessible." Thus many are writing weak lyrics. My favorite case in point is the chorus that goes, "yes Lord yes Lord yes yes Lord. Yes Lord yes Lord yes yes Lord. Yes Lord Yes Lord Yes yes Lord yes lord." These kind of lyrics bother even us Christians! :)
- October 5, 2007 at 11:35 AM
- Caleb said...
Numerous Christian praise songs are overtly sexual, or at least seem to be if one takes just a moment to actually absorb the lyrics.
"Draw Me Close To You"
Oh Jesus,
Draw me close to you
Never let me go
Cause nothing else could take your place,
To feel the warmth of your embrace.
You are my desire,
No one else will do.
Bring me back to you!
You're all I want
You're all I ever needed
You're all I want
Help me know you are near.
They get far worse.
Hungry, I come to you for I know you satisfy.
I am empty, but I know your love does not run dry.
And so I wait for you, and so I wait for you.
I'm falling on my knees
Offering all of me
Jesus, you're all this heart is living for.
You're all I'm living for.
I won't even bother with the other verses. Suffice it to say that the song grows even more hilariously sensual as it continues.
Modern Christian worship seems to be centered around the desire for an almost purely physical relationship with Christ. This brings an entirely new meaning to the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation, to say the least!
- October 5, 2007 at 3:44 PM
- Joseph said...
haha! That's classic, Caleb :)
- October 6, 2007 at 3:21 AM
- Jennifer said...
Oh my goodness, Caleb. Would you break down every metaphor into such an analysis? Should we do away with metaphors?
The Song of Solomon was added to the canon because if it's illustration of intimacy with God. I'm sure you knew that, but I am throwing it out here for comment.
- October 6, 2007 at 3:50 PM
- Joseph said...
Jennifer, actually the Song of Solomon may have been added to the Christian canon for those reasons but it is clearly talking about Solomon's love affair with his beloved. You don't want me to have to illustrate my point.
- October 6, 2007 at 7:17 PM
- Jennifer said...
Didn't you know that when you taught Bible classes? That's the point. We do not seek a physical union with God, but an emotional intimacy that can be metaphorically paralleled with the passion or familiarity of lovers.
What exactly were you teaching in your Bible studies? I'm curious.
- October 7, 2007 at 10:33 PM
- Shygetz said...
I love you Jesus
I want you to walk with me
I'll take good care of your baby
Call you my baby, baby
You died for my sins
And you know that I would die for you, right
What's the matter baby?
You're trembling Jesus baby
Your love
Is my life
You know when I'm without you
There's a black hole in my life, ohhh
I wanna believe
It's all right
But I get lonely in the night
And it's up to you to save me
Jesus baby.
The body of Christ
Sleek, perfect body
All muscled up and tone.
The body of Christ
Oh, what a body
I wish I could call it my own.
or finally...
I wanna get down on my knees
And start pleasing Jesus
I wanna feel his salvation
All over my face
Classic South Park.
- October 8, 2007 at 10:39 AM
- Resilient Hawk said...
"I find Christian lyrics to be superfical at best, and false at the worst."
Given the range and history of what counts as Christian music, that's tough to back up. When looking at the gritty realism of Larry Norman, or the headier songs of Martin Luther and John Wesley, there's more out there than JMT.
Superficiality is by no means an argument against God' existence, which is what I think your blog is trying to debunk. Otherwise, if atheism were put to the same test, it might as easily be debunked.
How often have a heard a well-meaning evangelistic atheist tell me, "But I cannot see God, therefore he must not exist"? I close my eyes, and then tell the poor atheist that now he does not exist. ;) Seriously, superficiality is just and only that.
Likewise, how much of modern poetry is superficial? Our poet laureates (Billy Collins being a prime example) have largely delivered insipid lines that are closer to journal or personal blog entries than the depth of John Donne, Gerard Manley Hopkins, William Butler, and T. S. Eliot. It makes me queasy to pick up a literary journal.
In other words, I feel for your sense that many Christian song lyrics are superficial, but, similarly, only find that those which are reflect not the existence (or non existence) of a god, but the absence of literary depth.
As far as the greater issue:
Debunking something eternal is, by the nature of the concept, impossible. Christians (and any other deity worshipper) rely on faith, not quantitative logic. Proving there is nothing that exists in the position of god is as impossible, using any logical standard, that there is a god.
Christians looking to sit you down and do some sort of math or physics explanation to prove that a god exists miss this, just as an atheist tries to do the same to a Christian. The best apologetic for a god is a changed life, but, even then, it will not be an apologetic(which, sadly, I realize is too rare) that changes the unbeliever to a believer, but God's spirit itself.
- March 3, 2008 at 9:13 AM
- esperanza said...
I'm not certain why everyone but jennifer appear to be so concerned with this topic. Woundedego seems to have an ax with Michael Card and JMT. Instead of sitting here in judgment of these men, why don't you contact them and confirm what you are supposing their positions are? And ultimately, if you're so embittered by Christianity, why do you even care? Why not "debunk" soemthing do real harm to the world, like the radical lies of liberalism and special interests groups that have usurped the U.S.? Why not go after something that is dooing damage to people instead of going after decent humans like MC & JMT? It's just a thought. If you want to expose lies, make certain that what you are bringing to light is the "Truth" and not merely your interpretation of the truth. Otherwise, 10 years from now we'll be a part of the website "Debunking Woundedego and the other tragic victims of ethical relativism".
- June 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM
- AJH said...
I stumbled on this conversation while looking for Lyrics to a JMT song we sang in worship this morning. I know you have all moved on in your dialogues since this began last year but I felt compelled to add my perspective to your string...
I think deeply about all the music I listen to no matter the source or intended purpose. I find much of popular music, Christian or otherwise, lacking in depth. It seems many song writers rarely think deeply and neglect to write with any complexity. I certainly will not defend the Christian Music Industry for it's worthy contributions...
However, the song in question here happens to be one of my favorite songs about the Christian faith - as are both JMT & MC as authors, thinkers & lyricists. 'Why?' you have asked...I want to answer.
This song asserts, despite human frailty, error & selfishness that the Truth of the Gospel remains. Christ did not preach on the divisions of faith but to unify those sects of Judaism & the Gentiles of the day as one people. To make them all the people of God. Christ's mission was one of unity. He came to bring all men to God... ergo bringing all men together as well.
The problem comes in, for believers & unbelievers alike, that this work of unification was to be brought through humans who choose wether or not to listen to the Spirit of God. Though He may be leading them, they don't always consistently follow him. The divisions in the church today unfortunately demonstrate that all too well.
The line you dislike about..
"Some of his shepherds had pastured themselves on their sheep, so he has come out against them and scattered his people of faith."
...refers to this failing throughout human history from the start of the church (as recorded in several of the Epistles about false teachers & prophets) to contemporary times (remember Jim Baker or any number of self seeking preachers of this modern day). This is a broken reality of our human condition whether we believe or not.
The fact that God chose to love & use the very self focused & broken people He sent Christ to make whole is foundational to the premise of the Gospel. We need God & He values us SO He cares for His family by bringing them together through His Son AND YET it's still the work of His family to choose to love, trust & obey.
If that gives you a problem in this song, or any other thoughtful & well written song about the Christian faith then you might as well throw the whole thing out as it sounds you have done.
If your primary problem is actually the people & work of the Christian faith (as demonstrated in American evangelicalism particularly) then you need to reconcile with the basic premise that we are all broken & being made new in our faith daily ONLY in the measure of our obedience to the Spirit of God. Not everyone who calls themselves something actually lives fully by the tenets of that tradition. There are lax Budhists, Atheists, Environmentalists and more... Does automatically that mean their cause is worthless because the people who ascribe to it do not live it well?
I personally find the American Evangelical tradition intensely lacking in the fruit of obedience that Christ talks about for His church in the gospels. I have seen however, that fruit born in a diversity of Christian traditions here and in countries around the world. When the gravity of the Christian faith & Truth of Scripture is taught AS WELL AS lived out it is amazing what Faith produces in a group of people. The live out the kingdom of God by caring for the poor, orphaned & widows...
I like this song simply because it reminds me that even though churches & the people in them do often disappoint me that the Unified Church under Christ's leadership does exist. It resides, apart from doctrine or denomination, in the Kingdom of Heaven Christ taught about in all obedient & expectant followers of Christ.
I consider that meaningful song writing.
- October 12, 2008 at 8:16 PM
- William said...
Having listened to the clip I need to say that for the most part the comments here are sophomoric at best and reflect an ineptitude at poetry, simile, and metaphor which rather simplistically ridicules what is simply Scripture (Ephesians 4:4-16) set to music. If you can't take the time to acquaint yourself with the subject matter you may not be qualified to critique it. You might just as well do the same to Shakespeare, Blake, or Homer. I don't mean to offend, but this blog is decidedly weak. It should be called "Whining About a Faith That I Don't Understand". The literalism with which the figurative is treated here is simply childish.
- November 24, 2009 at 8:16 AM
- Trimelda said...
Okay, here I am surfing the web for songs by John Michael Talbot and I find something that talks about Debunking Christianity tied to a really nice, pretty song with good guitar playing etc.
So, I click in to see what the big rip is about and find... this.
Now I know I am biased as a 55 year old African American pastor once a nun, from three generations of Christians. So, no I'm not going to agree with your point of view. But I have to say your arguments are a bit limp.
You've got people writing:
"He built his church on the rock foundation of faith."
Faith is a rock? In what sense? This makes little sense. At least McDowell says faith is based upon evidence.
I find it difficult to believe that an educated adult can't understand a metaphor. Did that person even grasp the concept behind the uase of the word? Is THAT the best you can come up with on "debunking" this song?
And this????
I blogged the other day on the matter of "suspending unbelief" and how, by intentionally believing a song's or sermon's message, one actually experiences the message emotionally and powerfully, just as people do when they watch a good movie. It is "my big thought" at the moment, that I hope to research more and put in my next book.
I feel like saying, dude, don't hurt yourself, okay.
This sounds a lot like a bunch of people who aren't very good at much who are mad at people who are. Now I am sure that's probably not true and you folks are successful, well loved, compassionate people without the aid of Christ, etc, etc, etc. But when you post things like this, you don't sound smart. You sound ignorant and petty.
Next time go argue about the Crusades or Televangelists or Pedophiles in the church. I know its been done before, but that makes a heck of a lot more sense than railing at Talbot and Card's song because you can't understand a metaphor or handle emotional content.
Again, Sheez!!!!!
- June 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM
- kkevilus said...
People have been calling the claims of Christ crazy since about the time of his birth. This song 'One Faith' caused scandal within the church(es) so you'd be best to pick a better song.
Does labeling Michael Card a 'Calvinist' somehow make your claim more relevant? I have a different take on Calvinism. I used to hate it passionately, truly.
Then you look at science - quantum physics specifically. Who's to say that God is bound by the same dimensions as us? (He's not!) So he sees this existence already played out. Is it wrong that he already knows what's happening and allows it to happen anyhow?
Look at light, as an atheist professor once said 'Light is a miracle'.
Change religions real quick, the Muslim Qur'an talks about angels traveling to God at a speed that is exactly the speed of light outside of a gravitational field. 1,400 years before we could accurately calculate it, the Qur'an had it pegged.
I'm not a big fan of Christian denominations, and I think Christians have failed miserably. Throughout history people have failed God. Isn't that the point of Christ?
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October 10, 2010
Sharing Memories (Week 45): The Family I Knew
This week I've been thinking a lot about all the relatives I knew when I was a child. In other words, who were the family members I had a connection with but who are now gone. It occured to me that not only would it be a tribute to list their names and a bit about them, but it would also ensure that future generations would be able to learn more about a possible ancestor. Remember I'm assuming that my genealogy journals will survive and be passed on from one generation to the next!
My Uncle Ern and Auntie Cordie used to visit us frequently. Uncle Ern was Grandma's brother and I remember him as a short, heavy man full of good cheer. He was always laughing and smiling. Auntie Cordie was lovely - a sweet quiet lady. Their daughter Doris was always dressed beautifully athough she didn't come with them very much when I was a pre-teen.
Uncle Ern died suddenly when I was still a pre-teen and the visits seemed to stop. I know we visited Auntie Cordie and Doris in their home in Toronto but I can't remember them coming out to our little village to see us after Uncle Ern's death.
Doris never married and years later when she died (in 1998) my mother drove to the home Doris and her parents had lived in since the early 1900s and gathered all the family documents and old photographs for me. I wish I'd asked to sit down with Doris while she was alive to look through them and ask questions! But at least I have some beautiful family photos from the late 1800s
Ern and Cordelia (Cordie) sailed from Ramsgate England to Canada in April 1908 and lived out their married lives in Ontario Canada. They had two daughters born in Toronto Ontario but their second child died at the age of one year of diptheria. They never spoke of her in front of me.
I have so many wonderful documents - military records, photographs, various bills and receipts, photos of the grocery store Ern opened in Toronto circa 1909... but there are no descendants of this branch of my family to leave them to. They have meaning for me since I knew Uncle Ern and Auntie Cordie but I wonder, will they have any meaning for my children or grandchildren?
3 comments:
- Holly said...
Your memories may very well mean something to your children. Two of my sons are interested in the family history. My youngest as a child liked to look at the old photos and would ask about the people in them.
My aunt wrote her memories of family members down and without them, I would have nothing, no recall, no way to visualize them as they might really have been.
I started to journal my own memories, starting with my childhood. I should also write about those family members. Do continue.
- Kristin said...
My mother wrote down her memories of her great aunts and other family members. I am overjoyed to have these very personal memories. They bring to life the photographs and records.
- gerryruth said...
Don't forget to share those photos, copies at least, and the memories with the local historical society. They may or may not want them, but give them the opportunity. Living in the digital age makes sharing the photos so simple.
I've started a blog for my memories. Think I will make it private and share it with family.
Thanks for the inspiration, Gerry


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Nash said that one perk of being a Ranger is being in "THE" Hockey Night in Canada game instead of maybe being a regional or late game with Columbus.
Last week, John Tortorella said of Nash, "O sh!!. You watch him. He beats people 1 on 1. He kills penalties. Third period he had a few quality chances to win the game, and I don't think he is in great shape. He is really exciting to me as far as what he can be for this organization."
Nash has one goal and four assists this season and leads the Rangers with 23 shots.
Adam Rotter: The only time I ever really watched Rick Nash was when he was playing for Canada in the 2010 Olympics. He dominated in that tournament and has been dominant for the Rangers so far this season. His numbers should probably be higher, he deserves to have more than one goal, but when you watch him you can see what kind of player he is and the impact he can have on a game.


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As the European GNSS Programmes Manager, and being responsible for the GNSS service provision, user segment and GNSS applications development, the European Commission is launching this project with the objective of improving positioning services to terrestrial user domains by developing user receiver technologies for integrity monitoring.
Integrity in the domain of Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS) has been understood as the ability to provide timely warnings in case of a system failure causing a misleading user position. This concept of integrity has been imported from the aviation community: aviation services are 'safety-critical' and require an extremely high level of reliability of the satellite signals for its use for navigation.
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DescriptionOy! You look like you can take care of yerself, <race>. Me and the crew here are looking for a bodyguard to watch over us while we hit a dig site to the north. The pay is pretty good and all you gotta do is make sure no nasty creatures kill me or any of my employees.
If you successfully make it back without any casualties, Dwarfowitz over there will pay ya.
A bone wurm! Fantastic! This may actually be the first time in recorded history that Letoll has actually made a discovery.
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NORWOOD Steven R. Wells allegedly presented himself at Norwood-Norfolk Central School District offices Friday morning as a visitor bearing a package for a teacher.
The 60-year-old Norfolk resident ended up leaving in handcuffs, an accused stalker with a pellet gun in his coat whose erratic behavior alarmed district administrators, prompting a lockdown.
And while state police and the districts superintendent said they believe school officials handled the situation properly, troopers are still investigating the suspects actions in the days leading up to Fridays security scare.
There wasnt a relationship between Mr. Wells and the female teacher, state police Investigator Andrew S. Gayeskie said Friday. He thinks there was in his mind but it was not a boyfriend-girlfriend-type situation.
Norwood-Norfolk Superintendent Elizabeth A. Kirnie said Mr. Wells never spoke about hurting anyone while inside the building, nor did he display a weapon.
At no time did he make any threats, she said.
In fact, Mrs. Kirnie said, the man came through a secure entrance at about 8:15 a.m., presented his ID as a visitor and went to the office.
Initially, he followed visitor procedures, she said.
Once Mr. Wells was in the office, however, an administrator who met with him believed that some of his behavior was a bit erratic and staff called police, Mrs. Kirnie said.
State police have not released the teachers name or indicated what might have been in the package.
Due to the lockdown procedures initiated by school administration at the beginning of the incident, Wells was not able to gain access to the interior of the school and no students were placed in any type of danger as a result of the incident, troopers wrote in a statement released Friday.
Mr. Wells was found to be wearing a shoulder handgun holster with a black Desert Eagle BB pistol, which is considered an imitation pistol, beneath his jacket, according to the statement.
The weapon was not loaded, Mr. Gayeskie said.
Troopers also confirmed Mr. Wells has faced previous legal sanctions in connection with weapons. In August 2005, state police charged Mr. Wells, then of Massena, with second-degree criminal contempt and third-degree criminal possession of a weapon after he was allegedly found at a Route 37 restaurant with a 9 mm handgun. While full details of that case could not be immediately confirmed later Friday, a 2005 Times report indicated Mr. Wells had been previously barred from possessing handguns under the terms of an Onondaga County Court order.
State police on Friday interviewed the staff member Mr. Wells allegedly asked to see, and she reportedly told investigators he had been stalking and harassing her for several days.
Mr. Wells was charged with third-degree criminal possession of a weapon, first-degree harassment and fourth-degree stalking. He was arraigned in Norfolk Town Court by Justice Donald G. Lustyik and taken to the St. Lawrence County jail, Canton, in lieu of $50,000 bail or $100,000 bond. The judge issued an order of protection.
Mrs. Kirnie said students were kept in their classrooms during the incident, which lasted under an hour.
The district had previously scheduled a lockdown drill for next week, but that has now been canceled, Mrs. Kirnie said. A letter sent to parents Friday by elementary Principal Rebecca J. Kingsley, a copy of which was obtained by the Times, said the lockdown occurred as students were arriving for the day.
We had been talking about this procedure with students and told them that this morning was a drill so they would not be scared, the letter said. Students were great and followed staff instructions the entire time.
Grades five to 12, meanwhile, heard an announcement from their teachers indicating the lockdown resulted from a stranger in the building and that state police made sure the school was secure before classes resumed, according to the letter.
I realize that our elementary children have older friends and relatives. They may hear from these people or the news, but Id like you to decide how much or how little you want to share, the principal wrote to parents.
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Friday, June 3, 2011
Ernie and Bert Fruit Snack!
We thought it would be fun to make Ernie and Bert out of fruit. We used 1 clementine, 1 banana, raisins, 2 mini marshmallows, and 1 red fruit roll up.
This is what we used to make 2 of these. Peel the clementine and save the peel. Separate it in half and put them on each plate. Peel the banana and cut in half. Place those on the plates.
For Ernie....cut a slit towards the bottom for his mouth. Roll up a fruit roll up tightly and then cut part of that for the nose. Cut a small piece for his tongue. Cut a mini marshmallow in half for his eyes. Cut a small raisin for the pupil on the eyes. Cut more of the raisins in half for his hair. Cut the reserved clementine peel for his ears.
For Bert...cut the reserved clementine peel for his nose. Cut the banana peel for his ears. Cut a mini marshmallow for his eyes. Cut a small raisin for the pupil on the eyes. Cut a slit for his mouth. Cut a small piece of fruit roll up for his tongue. Use 2 or 3 raisins for his eye brows. Cut raisins in half for his hair.
The boys are insisting that I let everyone know that this idea was for their baby brother and not for them.ha They have so out grown Sesame Street and have moved on to the big kid shows! There..I said it! However, I have to add that I watched them have too much fun making these and eating them...even if they will never admit it!
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Oh. My. Gosh. That is the cutest snack I have ever seen!!!!! I LOVE this!ReplyDelete
I can't believe that you don't have a million comments here. These are awesome! I can't wait to make these for my daughter!ReplyDelete
These are adorable! And so clever!ReplyDelete
Those are just too cute! I'm going to make them for my grandaughter. She'll LOVE them. Thanks!ReplyDelete
So cute! My kids love it when I "dress up" their food. Following you now and looking forward to more great ideas! :)ReplyDelete
Jill, will you be my mom? Oh my gosh, where do you come up with these ideas?!!! Amazing. Thanks again for sharing at For the Kids Fridays! I'm sharing this with my Facebook friends. LOVE it!!!! You TOTALLY rock!!!ReplyDelete
amazing! I'm your newest follower!ReplyDelete
Sharing with my Facebook readers.
OMG -- the cutest idea ever! Thanks for sharing. :o) BetheReplyDelete
Hey, Jill. I am having so much fun letting friends and family know about your blog. You are awesome, girl !!! Love you!!! DebiReplyDelete
awesomely awesome!ReplyDelete
Love this...so fun! Thanks for sharing!ReplyDelete
holy cow my husband is a sesame street freak I'm totally going to make these for him this week!ReplyDelete
These are so cute. I have really been enjoying your blog! :) -heatherReplyDelete
Super Cute Jill! This is one of my favorites that you've made!ReplyDelete
So so adorable! I love your creativity. and I bet this is a great way to get kids to eat fruit and veggies!ReplyDelete
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What a fun idea! This is so cute and would be great for a Sesame Street party or for some summer fun.ReplyDelete
Thanks for sharing such a great idea. I had to share it on my Shout Out Sunday post today! I'll be back to check out more of your great ideas.
So cute, I'm linking up at Dollar Store mom on Tuesday.ReplyDelete
This is so cute!!! I love your blog. Thank youReplyDelete
Flipping AWESOME!!!ReplyDelete
That is awesome! My brother LOVED Ernie when he was little.ReplyDelete
That is brilliant! What fun!!!ReplyDelete
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Love These! They bring back great Sesame Street memories from my childhood. I'm forwarding this along to my friends with young kiddos!ReplyDelete
stephanie from deviantly domesticated
So sweet this is . Yummy and lovleyReplyDelete
Wow...thanks everyone! We are so glad you like it!ReplyDelete
This is such a CUTIE CUTE snack! Thanks for sharing! (Maybe I could get my kids to eat their fruit!)ReplyDelete
Wow, that is just adorable! I can't believe how much it looks just like Bert and Ernie!ReplyDelete
Great idea!! I'd love to share this with our readers at next week's link up at www.dimpleprints.com on Monday. Thanks for sharing!ReplyDelete
Very cute! I love the idea! At first I thought Ernie's ears and Bert's nose were dried apricots - you could use those instead of peel if you want the whole thing to be edible, no? :) Bert's ears sort of look like almond slivers, so that might also work to be peel-free. Thanks for the idea!ReplyDelete
I've got to say it again, you are AMAZING! LOVE this... and it is featured at tonight's For the Kids link party! Love having you party with us each week, and I can't wait to see what you have to share with us next!ReplyDelete
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We found your blog through Canadian Family and thought it was so great, we had to post about it on Montreal Fashion Moms.ReplyDelete
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OH WOW super impresses!! love these fruit Ernie and Bert (btw was looking at your Star Wars party photos wow you had some amazingly creative cute ideas there too:)ReplyDelete
This is the cutest snack I've ever seen! Amazing!ReplyDelete
My little guy would adore this- i'll have to make this for him!ReplyDelete
I am a mom of 2 boys, 8 and 2.ReplyDelete
I would love for you to link it up to my party that is running now. Any linky goes.
Come strut your stuff.
baha this is too cute for words!ReplyDelete
Thank you for linking up to Bacon Time. For the first party it was a huge success with over 300 links. I am going to have a special give away next week just for linkers. I would love for you to grab the party button for your blog too. Thanks again.ReplyDelete
Jill, this is AMAZING. I can't believe how it looks EXACTLY like Bert and Ernie, WOW!!! Totally cute, totally awesome, and what kid wouldn't want to gobble it all up. Your blog is SOOOOO great, I am totally following you now girl, YAYY!!ReplyDelete
Thanks so much for linking up to my party :)
I loved this so much, I featured you girl!
Come grab a button girl, and display it proudly!
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Hi, friend! I'm admiring all your creativity here. Can you please share them with us at the Creative Bloggers' Party & Hop. Hope to see you there at the party :)ReplyDelete
You are SO creative! This is such a fun snack! Love it.ReplyDelete
Super cute, I'm going to have to make this I have 3 boys too. WOuld love if u checked out my blog. New Follower Thanks:)ReplyDelete
Awesome! You are giving me great ideas for my daycare!ReplyDelete
This is so amazing! It is indeed Ernie and Bert! You are soo talented. I love it!ReplyDelete
Thank you so much, we made them straigt away, and my little girl loved them so much!!ReplyDelete
my grandson loves ernie he would love this and i will make some thanksReplyDelete
- AnonymousDecember 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM
thanks for sharing! I'm going to make these for my daughter's birthday! wonderful idea!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousFebruary 12, 2012 at 11:01 PM
I am going to do this for my 18 year old :) alisaReplyDelete
Hi there. Love the idea, but I'm craft-challenged, and don't know how to get it all to stick together. How does it work?ReplyDelete
Just too cute! Love!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousMarch 8, 2012 at 4:30 AM
Wow!!! 10 out of 10 for making something so like Bert and Ernie and at least another 10 out of 10 for using ingredients that most people would have in their cupboards, most kids would love to eat AND most mums would be happy for their kids to eat.ReplyDelete
I love ernie & bert! We found you on pinterest and shared this on our recent post on Silly Snacks and linked back, hopefully that's ok with you. Keep up the creativity!!ReplyDelete
I love some of your fun I ideals for your children's meals. Wondering if yoReplyDelete
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- AnonymousSeptember 17, 2012 at 12:46 PM
cute idea! Someone just just won an iPad using it in a sesame st themed lunchbox.. check out: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=467052786659281&set=a.201253709905858.50010.199791660052063&type=1&theaterReplyDelete
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By the numbers, Maine continues to be one of the least religious states, in a nation increasingly filled with those who claim to have no religious affiliation. The rise of the so-called "nones" in America is documented in a recent survey by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life. Not surprisingly, as Pew finds, it's an ongoing trend that's being driven by young people. One in three adults under the age of thirty now say they don't belong to a particular denomination or sect. But as Jay Field reports, clergy, scholars and the faithful have different views on how this trend is affecting religious life in Maine.
Ross April and Kayla Stover are shooting a game of eight ball inside the student center at Husson University. The two friends swap a pool que back and forth, as they remember the religious families they grew up in.
"Very Christian," says April. "A lot of my family is Protestant, a lot of my family is Catholic - pissed off both sides equally when my parents got married."
"My grandfather is a Pentecostal preacher," Stover says. "So I was 'church every week.'"
Now, though, neither of these college students want much to do with church or organized religion. For a long time, Stover felt like she didn't have a choice.
"It was almost shoved down my throat my whole life," she says. "You know, they always told me, 'If you believe in God and Jesus and accept him as your savior, then nothing bad is going to happen. I did that and bad stuff still "happened." Stover says she's become the least religious person in her family.
April says he's spiritual, but not religious. He says there's a big difference.
"Religion is a set, specific series of rules based around stories and beliefs that are held back when people barely knew how to write," he says. "I'm not trying to put down, very specifically, Christianity, but it's what I know the most about. And a book begins with a snake giving an apple to some lady and ends with four-headed beast? And that's fact? I consider myself sort of a humble agnostic."
April and Stover, it turns out, are not alone in their ambivalence. One in three adults under the age of 30 is religiously unaffiliated, according to a recent survey by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life. Cary Funk is a senior researcher at Pew.
"The majority of the unaffiliated today will have grown up in a household with a religious affiliation. So that means that most of the unaffiliated today have had to change in some way, they've had to switch to having no religious affiliation at some point," Funk says.
So why are young people like Kayla Stover and Ross April making this switch? Funk says there isn't one answer. "There are things about the theology and dogma of a particular religion. There's also people's beliefs and preceptions about religious organizations."
In the Pew survey, 70 percent of unaffiliated people, for example, said churches focus too much on money and power, while 67 percent said they're too involved with politics. Not surprisingly, Pew also finds that the growing numbers of unaffiliated people rarely, if ever, attend church.
"We are no longer at a point where we can deny what is obvious," says Dr. Robert Grove-Markwood, president of the Bangor Theological Seminary. "Most of the congregations of mainline, Protestant, traditional kinds of churches - they're shrinking."
Grove-Markwood says it's a big reason why the Bangor Theological Seminary is suspending all classes at the end of the current academic year in May.
"Bangor Seminary is part of an ecosystem," he says. "Smaller churches in Maine are these little churches that used to be bigger - and used to be able to afford a full-time minister - are finding themselves increasingly unable to afford to pay someone who's gone to three years of graduate school."
Maine has long been one of the least religious states in the nation. Researchers have been studying the spread of secularism in Western Europe for years now. But Professor Kyriacos Markides says that's not what's happening in Maine and across the U.S.
Markides teaches the Sociology of Religion at the University of Maine at Orono.
"People from other traditions come together and compare notes. We do not live in isolated enclaves of religious communities," he says. "We may have a neighbor who is from a radically different religion from our own. And we have conversation. This unavoidably leads to the weakening of the total monopolization of religious experience from the traditional religions."
Markides says Maine and the rest of the country are becoming much more religiously pluralistic, not secular. It's a trend that's easy to see, as you drive through the suburbs of many American cities. Recent census data show that the number of evangelical christians in the nation's nine largest metropolitan areas went up by 12 percent over the past decade.


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