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44 comments:
- Richard H said...
Which argument/counter argument outside of your opening statement do you think was the strongest?
- February 18, 2010 at 11:47 AM
- John W. Loftus said...
Listen Richard. You tell me. I'm noticing that one debate strategy Dinesh uses is to cut off your opponent, which I think Dinesh did very well. It's my personality not to do this. One way to win a football game is to keep your opponent from having the ball, and one way to win a debate is to keep your opponent from speaking.
- February 18, 2010 at 12:14 PM
- John W. Loftus said...
I'm also noticing that when someone asked us both to answer a question that when Dinesh followed me he didn't respond to the question. He responded to what I said. Another interesting debate strategy.
- February 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM
- Richard H said...
I was front row at the debate, and even took a few pages of notes as I listened.
Your response at (35:15) started off well with the Sarah Palin joke. I think your comment on Socrates started off well. We suspect that Socrates existed. But, we don't know, and can't know with certainty.
At around (39:00), I feel like answer had started going off track.
At (52:20) your comment, "Just because you've shown that a belief is consistent with the evidence doesn't mean that you've shown your belief is probable" was good.
The audio is clearer than I remembered as well. The volume during your comments isn't dropping off as much as I'd remembered it doing.
- February 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM
- John W. Loftus said...
I'm also noticing how long Dinesh took to answer questions directed to him. Another debate strategy is to use up as much time as you can to keep your opponent from speaking.
- February 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM
- Richard H said...
I'm entirely with you there. Your opponent didn't make very many points beyond, "We can't know, so it must have a creator (who, btw, is singular, male and intelligent since we're calling it God)"
But, he managed to eat up a lot of time making those points.
- February 18, 2010 at 12:48 PM
- Edward T. Babinski said...
The mere fact that a voice did not shout from heaven, nor a lightning bolt annihilate you where you stood next to a Christian debating the Christian God's existence, provided evidence to the audience that maybe God doesn't mind having His existence debated.
That God also apparently doesn't mind having a host of holy books (Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Islamic, Mormon, Wiccan, New Age, etc.) published filled with divine words and teachings of great variety, including a host of commentaries that disagree as to the meaning of all those holy books.
Maybe next time get a panel together with the most fervent holy book believers out of a host of religious groups, and you on the end of the panel, just let them go at it, including Calvinists and Arminians, creationists and evolutionists, Rapturists (end timers) and Preterists (who knows what timers), physical resurrection believers and spiritual resurrection believing Christians, conservatives, moderates and liberals, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus (the editor of Hinduism Today), Buddhists (the editor of Tricycle Magazine, a kind of Buddhism Today magazine), damnationists, annihilationists, and universalists, and let them debate each other in front of an audience, and then you say a little something at the end, noting that everybody's beliefs remained the same at the end of this great debate, and neither did God intervene to show us all "the way."
- February 18, 2010 at 12:49 PM
- Piratefish said...
For your debating style John, my suggestion will be an interview/conversation with your opponent rather than a debate, like the one between Dawkins and Alistair McGrath(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Tc6EQ94GE). You have a better chance of countering your opponents immediately and they can't escape your arguments by changing the subject.
- February 18, 2010 at 1:21 PM
- Dan Rodger said...
Edward B,
just because people disagree has no bearing on God's existence or the truth of Christianity over other views. Gods never minded having his existence debated, what do you expect him to do, eliminate everyone on earth who doesn't fully understand him properly? There wouldn't be anyone left myself included, I'm sure I'm wrong about lots of things.
Interesting debate though John. Is there a video link anywhere?
- February 18, 2010 at 2:42 PM
- Rich Griese said...
Hey John,
Listened to your "debate" with D'Souza. The largest error I saw you let pass, which in effect eliminated your ability to destroy D'Sousa's argument was you allowed him to continually state in error, that Jesus existed "as a historical fact", also towards the end he builds on that incorrect statement talking about "4 historical facts".
These are not facts, and by allowing D'Souza to make a better case.
D'Souza turned the tables on you, he set up the "John has to come up with a better explaination..." scenario.
The real issue is. Some have a hypothesis that there was a historical Jesus, have yet to demonstrate their case. This is the point. they have a hypothesis (not a historical fact), that they have not yet demonstrated.
It does not matter what "that majority of scholars 'believe'". It does not matter if there is universal scholarly acceptance of some idea. Unless the idea is demonstrated, it is still simply a hypothesis.
- February 18, 2010 at 2:57 PM
- Cole said...
The problem with D'Souza's argumant from the origin of the universe is that if there's no time then there's no Causality. Since there's no time "prior" to the beginnig of the universe then there's no Cause. As the Christian astrophysicist Hugh Ross states:
"Your friendly neighborhood physicist will tell you that time is defined as that dimension or realm in which cause and effect phenomena take place."
Dr. Ross believes that God is not confined to one dimension of time. He believes He is in more that one dimension of time. Notice how He defines time. Time is that dimension in which cause and effect take place. If there's no time there's no Cause and effect. Since there's no time "prior" to the Big Bang there's no Cause. The only possible solution that Dr. Ross sees is that the First Cause is in more than one dimension of time. But this raises a problem. How could this Cause traverse an actually infinite number of equal, non-zero, past temporal intervals to arrive at the moment of creation? The God explanation seems to be unlikely.
The laws that govern our universe don't exist outside our universe. Moreover, If something is timeless it doesn't change. It's frozen. If God is outside time then He doesn't change. He's changeless and therefore He becomes frozen. He doesn't act or move and He therefore doesn't stand in causal relations with His creatures. Relationships with God become impossible without time.
- February 18, 2010 at 3:22 PM
- Jon said...
John, I've shared my thoughts here. It is criticism, but I hope you find it to be constructive.
- February 18, 2010 at 3:31 PM
- Richard H said...
I think there are a few, very small, changes to delivery that could have made the debate come off differently.
D'Sousa is easy to understand. Part of the reason is his use of space to separate his arguments. A couple seconds of silence let the audience consider the argument, and realise that a new one is starting.
He also tended to use only a single argument to rebut a single point. Adding on a second (and often slighty weaker) argument seemed like it would dilute the flow. Plus, it makes it hard for the audience to follow.
And, possibly most important, his vocal tone was really good and really consistent. His baseline projection was really good. And, he'd use extra noise/space to mark the central ideas in his points.
- February 18, 2010 at 3:37 PM
- Double A said...
I believe the Christian God exists so obviously I'm going to say John lost the debate. However, in finding a positive: I listened to the audio and I like John's voice much better! John's got a great voice to listen to. Furthermore, Dinesh's pulse was probably higher and he was more intense. John stayed pretty calm. Hopefully your next debate you feel better.
- February 18, 2010 at 5:24 PM
- Double A said...
Regarding the exchange about the tomb and the body being gone. Wow. D'Souza took John to S-C-H-O-O-L.
- February 18, 2010 at 5:52 PM
- magnumdb said...
Dan Rodger said:
"just because people disagree has no bearing on God's existence or the truth of Christianity over other views."
No. It diminishes it's chance of being truthful immensely. Because now there are competing religions that claim many of the same things has Christianity. A lot of religions were around before Christianity, so they're not simply forgeries.
"what do you expect him to do, eliminate everyone on earth who doesn't fully understand him properly?"
You're joking, right? Have you even looked inside the bible? It's filled with God ordering the deaths of those who don't believe in him. Remember the flood? Even if we were to grant you the idea that God wouldn't kill because his creation didn't believe, what about hell? Those he didn't actually kill are sent to suffer for eternity under his will.
- February 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM
- magnumdb said...
Double A:
"I believe the Christian God exists so obviously I'm going to say John lost the debate."
WELL SUMMED, MY FRIEND! Of COURSE you're going to disagree with him, because you have a belief! You refuse to accept evidence otherwise, because YOU HAVE A BELIEF!
Thank you for being so truthful to us. I just wish you could be that truthful to yourself, and accept that you're close minded.
- February 18, 2010 at 6:24 PM
- Eric said...
Dear John,
(lol, it's not every day one gets to write a dear John) - I saw your response to Richard and a the ones that followed. I wasn't able to watch the debate but I will listen to the audio soon and once the video comes out I'll watch that as well. I know you're a busy guy but I was wondering if you could write a bit about the points you would like to have made if you weren't cut off. I'll come back to this thread once in a while to see if you respond. Also, if you could please provide a few basic ideas to underline your points I would greatly appreciate it. Not to take too much of your time, but I would rather not have to consider your points in a vacuum.
- February 18, 2010 at 9:19 PM
- Wade Anes said...
I'm only halfway through, but I'm sorry, I don't see how Dinesh is winning at all. His rebuttal to your brainwashing argument is a massive appeal to authority. As is his argument against Stenger's 'quantum tunneling' senario. Having argued this with theists already, I find that it's good to point out that Hawkins says himself in "A Brief History of Time" on page 53 that...
"So in the end our work became generally accepted and nowadays nearly everyone assumes that the universe started with a big bang singularity. It is perhaps ironic that, having changed my mind I am now trying to convince other physicists that there was in fact no singularity at the beginning of the universe-as we shall see later, it can disappear once quantum effects are taken into account"
- February 18, 2010 at 9:49 PM
- Wade Anes said...
Oops. Stephen HAWKING.
- February 18, 2010 at 10:07 PM
- bobius said...
I listened to this thinking you were going to horribly disappoint, based on some of the reviews you've gotten. For about the first half hour, I was actually pleasantly surprised. Your opening statement was excellently delivered, despite a horrible, hideous sounding sinus infection, which made me feel sorry for you (that must have been horrible, trying to do that debate with that kind of illness… I can barely function when I get sinus infections). You really have a quite pleasing debate voice, and I actually think you project more than enough "charm." One can tell you used to be a preacher.
Then, Dinesh gave his statement. It was much, much weaker than I thought it would be. He made a grievous error in trying to write off your argument as a genetic fallacy, one you could easily hit him for and reinforce your initial argument. Most of the rest of his presentation did indeed commit the "dumb and dumber" fallacy, and then he just gave his standard spiel while demanding you provide a different kind of argument, because he didn't like the first one.
You could have had this thing in the bag.
But you got massacred.
Here's why (and I say this as someone who has taken college level classes both in formal debate as well as ancient and modern rhetoric):
- February 18, 2010 at 11:34 PM
- bobius said...
Dinesh mortally wounded your biggest, fattest argument by calling it a "fallacy." The audience, probably even some of the atheists there, wondered if he was right. Then he did some other stuff, most of it unimportant, but mostly he asked you why only these arguments? Why no positive account from an atheistic perspective of the origin of the universe, or the historical Jesus? In short, he dismissed your first argument as a fallacy, then called the rest of them irrelevant. If you let assertions like that go, then he's won. He's just defeated, in the minds of the audience, every argument you had going in.
You didn't address the "genetic fallacy" thing. Instead you seemed to completely drop the outsider test, only to eventually bring it back in a very weak form which I think in retrospect even you know was a poor formulation of the argument (the whole bit about how they all "debunk each other" that Dinesh killed you on). So, as far as anyone in the audience was concerned, you did indeed commit a logical fallacy, since you didn't even try to rebut Dinesh's charge. Why should anyone listen to someone who throws around fallacies? Since you didn't rebut, it sounds like you got caught doing something naughty, and would just prefer not to mention it again.
Then, you took Dinesh's bait, and tried to address some of his "no good explanation for the universe w/o God" stuff. This was a big mistake. Presumably, you think the arguments in your opener were strong enough to disprove God, without needing to provide an alternative explanation. I think most atheists on here could explain why that is, but your audience of Catholics probably needed some help here. Instead, you took the bait, got sidetracked, and weren't able to reinforce and bring back and strengthen your original arguments. At this point, Dinesh won.
You'd practically admitted to fallacious reasoning in regards to your first argument, and tacitly seemed to agree with Dinesh that the rest of your arguments were largely irrelevant compared to the things Dinesh wanted you to talk about. At this point, you stopped even having any argumentative balls in the air, while Dinesh was calmly preparing to toss more into the mix he was already keeping aloft.
Think of a debate as trying to get a set of arguments, which you've determined together defeat your opponent, across the finish line intact. Each time you get to speak, defend your arguments against whatever has been thrown at them, bring them back up and reinforce them. Then if you still have time, attack your opponent's arguments or talk about the additional things your opponent thinks are worth talking about, or challenge your opponent to address things not in their initial arguments. If you do this, then all your arguments will make it across the finish line, and, if you're right that your arguments together prove your case, you will win.
The problem here is that you needlessly let Dinesh take most of your arguments out of the race at the beginning, at which point he was free to throw everything he had at you.
- February 18, 2010 at 11:35 PM
- Cole said...
Just to comment on William Lane Craig's solution to the problem. Craig believes that the First Cause is simultaneous with it's effect. I'm not sure this would solve the problem. Simultaneous means "at the same time." So, it seems time would still be required. Even if one grants (as many philosophers do not) that some causes are simultanious with their effects, (as Craig does) those causes are themselves states of other things that pre-exist the effects in question in time. The law of Causality states that causes always preceed their effects in time. And as the Christian astrophysicist Hugh Ross has pointed out the scientific view of time is that it is that dimension in which cause and effect takes place. Causality needs a temporal context. There is no time at the Big Bang singularity and therefore no Cause. The universe popped into existence uncaused out of nothing. The laws that govern inside the universe don't apply outside the universe. This would include the law of Causality.
- February 19, 2010 at 12:09 AM
- magicshoemonkey said...
I've listened all the way up to the question/answer section. I think bobius has given the most accurate assessment, at least up to this point (and I'm not sure that a question/answer session can turn the debate around).
Basically, I listen to what Dinesh said in his opening statement and thought you might win easily. You came out saying that you didn't need to provide an atheist explanation. He came back and said, "You didn't provide one." You then provided one, which gave him the opportunity to make a lot of claims that you really couldn't combat in the debate format. You could easily have stuck to your guns and said, "No, I'm not arguing for atheism; I'm arguing against Christianity. I have shown that claiming that the universe needs a creator merely opens the door for any creator. You have to show that your specific creator is probable." Then you could demolish his arguments that specific the Christian God as the creator. Basically, as bobius said, you took his bait.
Also, I think that you lack some focus. The opening is fine, but when you respond to him, often, you tend to go off topic. I think, for example, when he brings up near-death experience, you say something like, "Why doesn't Jesus appear and explain himself." To me, this looks like a blatant red herring. It would be better to point out how near death experience is not evidence of an afterlife, and that even if it is, it's not evidence of the existence the Christian God. It would be better to point out that someone having a subjective hallucination is not evidence anymore than someone claiming Jesus appeared to them in their bedroom last night. You also allowed him to get away with dismissing you off-handedly a lot, like calling your argument "mostly bull." Obviously you can't answer everything, but certain things beg a response.
That's the main problem I see. Overall, I would say you did OK. You should take what your learned from this debate, listen to the constructive criticism, and come back with a more focused, stronger stance next time.
- February 19, 2010 at 1:25 AM
- edthemanicstreetpreacher said...
Hi John W. I'm part way through the audio; just finished listening to Dinesh's rebuttal.
Sorry, but I can see why a lot of sceptics are saying you lost. D'Souza is an expert debater with a wealth of experience and while I disagree with practically everything he said his speeches were far more structured and incisive than yours. You simply didn't sound very confident and let him play those childish tricks about points here and there and a whole lotta bull in between.
Having said that, I am appalled at the way D'Souza trashed Victor Stenger as making "no significant contribution to science". In his first rebuttal, D'Souza quoted an old thesis by Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose from the 1970s when they believed that the universe began with the Big Bang singularity. I'm in the middle of Stenger's most recent book The New Atheism and he exposes D'Souza flagrant distortions of atheist scientists, including Hawking.
In A Brief History of Time Hawking makes abundantly clear that he and Penrose have recanted their earlier thesis and do not believe in the Big Bang singularity. The line most commonly mined by the likes of D'Souza and William Lane Craig from BHOT is "nearly everyone assumes that the universe started with a Big Bang singularity." However, the very next sentence Hawking writes, "It is perhaps ironic that, having changed my mind, I am now trying to convince other physicists that there was in fact no singularity at the beginning of the universe – as we shall see later, it can disappear once quantum effects are taken into account." (p. 50)
Debates on religion are invariably heated affairs. I have been accused of attacking Christian apologists personally rather than focusing on their arguments. However, there is honest disagreement between two sincerely held viewpoints and "telling lies for God". D'Souza and his kind sit firmly in the second category.
Don't give up, John W. You deserve a lot of credit for leaving the comfort of your blog and actually stepping up to the microphone.
- February 19, 2010 at 5:16 AM
- Samphire said...
I I felt for John trying to debate with a sore throat - it can't have been very enjoyable for him.
I thought Dinesh's opening was unpleasant. The use of "diarrhea" and "whining" to personalise John's opening was quite unnecessary - but then, he did use to be engaged to Ann Coulter. Later, his claim to be a christian despite having been born in a muslim country was disingenuous as he emigrated to America when he was only 17. Were his parents Christian?
I agree with ed on Dinesh's deliberate distortion of what Hawking's position is on singularities. Perhaps Dinesh should debate Craig on the matter of the possibility of infinities within a temporal universe as these two leading christian debaters disagree fundamentally on the matter. He should perhaps also debate a YECist (Hovind's first available date is September 2015) as to whether the infinite density of a singularity conforms to the literal creation account of Genesis 1:1.
Dinesh berated John for claiming that he made a "flat out false statement" about current cosmology on singularities. How the hell does Dinesh know whether it's false or not? He belittled Stenger but where was his mention of Smolin? He then immediately claimed "there was and is a singularity". Oh, yeah? Where?
There is very little in Dinesh's statements that is unarguable. Indeed, it is extremely frustrating listening to him making the most outrageous and unsupported claims. But it was also amusing to hear him defend the truth of christianity on the basis that the vicious disputes over doctrine which took many millions of christian lives in the middle of the second millennium were simply matters of irrelevant detail and now all christians agree on 99% of doctrine. So much for the belated witness of the Holy spirit.
As for his near death book, have any contributors read it?
- February 19, 2010 at 7:59 AM
- Wade Anes said...
After watching the rest, I'd have to mostly agree with bobius's assessment, you just didn't rebut enough. You didn't even try to counter the genetic fallacy line. You should have at least pointed out his fallacies, which were many.
For the topic being, 'does the christian god exist', I expected more attack on doctrine. I really expected you to attack the cosmology of the bible & how it is the exact opposite of what we know about how the universe came to be. You barely touched on the POE. You stuck with the OTF, & you kept repeating yourself about pushing him into agnosticism, wasting valuable speaking time that could have been used rebutting or making other points.
This has gotten way over-inflated. No way do I think you did as bad as most skeptics have been saying, but there was definitely room for improvement. Listen to the criticism, take it as a learning experience, & come back that much smarter. Remember that when it comes to arguing against Christianity, you are still the man!
- February 19, 2010 at 8:46 AM
- Clare said...
"I'm also noticing that when someone asked us both to answer a question that when Dinesh followed me he didn't respond to the question. He responded to what I said. Another interesting debate strategy." John Loftus
I thought that was what you were supposed to do.
- February 19, 2010 at 2:37 PM
- Hendy said...
@Clare: not necessarily. For example:
Audience member: This question is for both John and Dinesh. What is your explanation for the existence of evil given each of your respective world views?
John: I'll take this one first. Well, for the atheist, I really don't have much of an issue with the problem of evil. We're complexly evolved mammals who are in a tension between intellectual capacities to know what's best for ourselves and others and our emotional/impulsive urges. Sometimes the compulsions, like anger, win out against the intellect and evil is committed. While I have admitted a somewhat primitive mammalian aspect to our lives, I firmly believe it is our moral duty to develop our ability to choose what is right for ourselves and others despite opposition with instinctual desires. This is what makes us human.
Dinesh: Well, John, you completely vomited up your dinner as an answer on that one. Everyone, here is a guy who says that there is no duality, that is to say: there is no difference between the mind and the brain. Yet look at what he just did. He explained our evil tendencies by contrasting the emotions and urges with the intellect. But how is this to be. For the atheist, the emotions and thoughts happen in the same place and therefore this is to say that the 'brain' is fighting the 'brain.' Thank you everyone; thank you.
Ok, so if you're reading this John or Dinesh, please don't take offense. I have no idea how you would have answered this question. I just came up with a plausible scenario to illustrate how it is absolutely a 'debate tactic' (vs. Clare's suggestion of 'what you are supposed to do') to simply pick at the other guy's arguments when the question was intended for both equally. To be fair, Dinesh would have had to take on how evil exists when a perfectly good god supposedly made us in is perfect image and likeness and loves us but now refused to remove suffering and evil from the world.
Do you see that the answer he should have given in this hypothetical situation is far more difficult than simply trying to make John look bad for his own answer?
- February 19, 2010 at 4:48 PM
- John W. Loftus said...
Thanks Hendy. I'm reading. I tell you this though. There is nothing better for making me a better debater than in actually debating someone who has mastered the art like Dinesh has. It's unlike merely watching him debate others.
And to answer the question of Eric I do intend sooner or later in addressing his arguments.
There is a video but it hasn't yet been posted. It's supposed to be, but when I don't know. Maybe they'll even change their minds. I have no control over that.
- February 19, 2010 at 4:57 PM
- Double A said...
Wow, you caught me magnumdb. LOL. The debate was whether the Christian God exists. I believe, even after listing open-mindedly to the debate, that the Christian God exists. Let me break it down for you: Since John's presentation did not get me to believe that the Christian God does not exist, to me, John lost the debate. Does that help you a little? Hmmm?
- February 19, 2010 at 5:21 PM
- Walter said...
@Double A
To be fair, most of us will not change our worldviews based on an entertaining debate. The person that "wins" is usually the more polished orator.
Dinesh is a good rhetorician, but I believe is arguments are fairly weak.
- February 20, 2010 at 8:19 AM
- Ken Pulliam, Ph.D. said...
I have listened to the debate. Dinesh definitely won on style and delivery but he lost miserably on substance. If you had been a litte more experienced debater and focused on refuting his "arguments" you would have won in most people's minds.
Dinesh did not deal with most of your arguments but rather dismissed them as "whining" and "argumentative diarrhea." That is insulting and childish on his part (he would fit in well on TWEB).
I am preparing a summary of the debate with my comments to posted on my blog sometime soon.
- February 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM
- Sarah Schoonmaker said...
I will listen to this debate soon, but wanted to offer a brief response to Cole's comments: "The laws that govern our universe don't exist outside our universe. Moreover, If something is timeless it doesn't change. It's frozen. If God is outside time then He doesn't change. He's changeless and therefore He becomes frozen. He doesn't act or move and He therefore doesn't stand in causal relations with His creatures. Relationships with God become impossible without time."
You assume that there are only two possibilities for God; that he exists inside or outside of time. This is a false dichotomy because God exists inside and outside of time. Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we believe these are necessary conditions for anything to exist. However, this assertion is false. Without the dimension of time, cause and effect is impossible. Everything that exists in such a realm would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created. If God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence. In other words, space/time, cause and effect are contingent on God.
Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extend the equations for general relativity to include space and time. Their results demonstrated that time has a beginning - at the moment of creation (i.e., the Big Bang). Such assertions support the Bible's claim that time began at the creation of the universe.
- February 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM
- MauricXe said...
I listened to the debate just now.
You didn't do as bad as everyone said you did.
Right off the bat, Dinesh incorrectly accused you of using the genetic fallacy. The point of saying someone born in India would be a Hindu is not to say therefore Hinduism is true, it just means you are presupposed to its validity and that presupposition may blind you to the opposition.
To answer Dinesh's question:
What would I say if I were asked if there was an afterlife?
I would say: I don't know. I have no reason to believe in one, its possible but I just don't know.
Dinesh incorrectly states that atheists would say no. He incorrectly labels atheist positions during the debate. I wish you had called him out on those. That may have accounted for him getting a W; you didn't do enough to challenge his beliefs.
I am not into ad-homs, but sometimes he really makes you want to call him an idiot.
- February 21, 2010 at 11:56 AM
- Cole said...
I agree that Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extend the equations for general relativity to include space and time. While some continue to try and come up with models that avoid a beginning they all invoke conditions that would make physical life impossible because they negate the second law of thermodynamics. Physicists Arvind Borde, Alan Guth, and Alaxander Vilenkin over a span of ten years published five more extensions of the singularity theorems that establish that all cosmic models, regardless of assumptions about homogeneity, isotropy or lack therof, or energy conditions, must be subject to a space-time singularity. Any reasonable cosmic model-that is any model where the past obeys an average expansion condition (a necessary requirement for life to be possible)-must be traceable back within finite time to an actual beginning of space and time. The problem is how we define time. The scientists I've read would define time as that dimension in which cause and effect phenomena takes place. Causality requires a temporal context. If there is no time there's no Causality. So, I'm not sure that a half timeless, half temporal Cause even makes sense.
- February 21, 2010 at 12:56 PM
- christophermencken said...
John, I listened to the debate. Bravo to you! D'Souza is a greasy, deception monger. That slippery MF has 25% of your IQ points, but he knows how to dodge and weave.
Like when that dumb ass had zero, ZERO, answer to your Balaam's ass question but he slipped away. It was like that moment in the Shermer debate someone posted where Michael caught him flatfooted on the "Why does God hate amputees?" bit. You know those Christians in the audience were perking their ears when you started speaking so well about the New Testament.
Like you told Hendy above, I think you'd benefit with debating expert debaters. You know, like in the presidential debates where the campaigns use a surrogate opponent (who knows the opponent's tricks).
Like Ken Pulliam said, you won on substance. That's going to be the winner in the long run.
We need you out there, champ. Great beginnings. Flu season is over and your voice will recover. Take some time off. Make some money. We'll buy the new book and give you a few dollars too. Lots more rounds in this important fight to light a candle against the darkness of superstition and Dinesh's bullsh**.
- February 22, 2010 at 1:59 AM
- Hendy said...
I've thought about typing up the debate... maybe post it here as well as getting it at infidels.org... anyone think this would be a good idea?
If it were in type, it would even allow for others to make commentary for the benefit of others as well?
- February 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM
- christophermencken said...
typing it up would be great, Hendy. I'm sure there are many things to learn from in a transcript.
- February 22, 2010 at 10:22 AM
- Ken Pulliam, Ph.D. said...
I have posted a summary of the debate with my observations on my blog..
- February 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM
- Christian said...
"You assume that there are only two possibilities for God; that he exists inside or outside of time. This is a false dichotomy because God exists inside and outside of time."
...says who? And how did they find this out?
- February 22, 2010 at 10:31 PM
- Gandolf said...
Christian said... "says who? And how did they find this out?"
Does it really matter ?...Just chalk it up to the good ole "classical theism" !!
Absolutely anything you can manage to imagine, might infact be totally possible .You only need the ideas!,evidence is thought a mere minimal side issue, that hardly even matters.
Real Classic ! aint it :)
- February 22, 2010 at 10:46 PM
- shane said...
I haven't heard the debate, but i read the opener.
Dispite what some of these christians are saying about you losing this debate, i felt that you made some very good points in your opening statment!
You brought up some real issues on the subject of christianity that i really dont think can be defended logically.
One thing i noticed is that christians go to great lengths to twist reality to their advantage,
im also surprised at the very UNHUMBLE remarks i've read here by believers!
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Two years after an IED attack in Afghanistan took the lower half of his right leg, Sgt. 1st Class Jeffrey P. Hackett is preparing for the post-Army life for himself and his family.
My family has been there for me. Its time for me to be there for my family, he said. Ive been through all these deployments, going here, going there, and they stuck through it.
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The Aug. 15, 2011, blast in southern Afghanistan, which took place as Sgt. Hackett aided Afghan police forces inspecting a compound, also fractured his left lower leg and ribs, severed his intestine, punctured his colon and shredded the backside of his right arm.
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Create SQL Job for this purpose; if properly configured sql job will take backups automatically so there is no need for complex scripts i guess.
Another method http://beyondrelational.com/modules/2/blogs/70/posts/10895/backup-all-databases.aspx Create that procedure and schedule it as a job
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The DeLorme inReach SE was officially announced two days ago, shipping in mid-to-late April 2013. Here are updates to key parts of the article.
The SOS button sends your position and a message to the GEOS IERCC rescue coordination service. Other useful features include: virtual keyboard using cursor keys with predictive texting, audible message notifications, and LED for satellite availability.
The free Earthmate app supports Android (version 2.1 or newer) and Apple iOS devices (iOS 5 or newer, iPad version available.) Both apps can activate SOS service, send and receive SMS text messages, activate tracking, and post updates on Twitter and Facebook. Both apps provide GPS positions to your device, and include unlimited downloads of DeLorme maps, cached on your device. Map downloads must be through Wi-Fi or cell networks.
DeLorme inReach SE has several plans from $9.95 per month to $64.95 per month, including two seasonal plans. You can downgrade plans for $24.95. Message prices range from $0.25 to $1.50; tracking messages are unlimited free to $0.25 each.
See text for battery life explanation. Your experience will vary.
You might find better deals. Many plans are available.
These TSTDs can send and receive arbitrary text messages without another device.
These TSTDs should be paired with a smart device for full functionality. If you are carrying a smart phone or DeLorme Earthmate PN-60w GPS anyway, look into these.
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Thanks Rex. Great set of articles. I rue the fact that DeLorme have moved to a rechargable battery in the new InReach SE. It was the ability to use lithium AA, which are multipurpose, that attracted me to the original InReach. With only 8 days of battery life, the device is useless for longer back country trips.Derrick
Sorry this is so long, but I'm copying my review of some of these devices from another BPL thread. To this info I will add that Globalstar is quickly coming online with their improved constellation. Also, their GSP-1700 weighs 199g (7.05 oz.) and supports simple 911 emergency calling. Thankfully I have not tried that functionality. It is my device of choice right now. I basically came to conclusion that renting is the best option for me right until competition heats up, devices get better and weights and prices come down:I have rented the following devices in the last year:Globalstar GSP-1700. Not extensive wilderness use but was able to maintain a 7 minute call from the Green River underneath Flaming Gorge before losing it. Fix time was a surprising two minutes. Weighs 7 oz (the lightest satphone available in America I believe).Iridium 9555. I was able to get a fix in three minutes at the confluence of Bullet and Kane Gulch in Grand Gulch, 1400 feet deep in the canyon. A five minute call with no interruption. Further down the canyon towards Collins Gulch, it took 5 minutes to get a fix. Clear as a bell with about a 4 minute call window then a disconnect. Pretty sure that was a function of the geography. I had very low expectations of reception down in a canyon that deep. Iridium has 66 satellites in low orbit at about 465 miles. Weighs 9.5 oz.Inmarsat Isatphone Pro: A little funky as you have to gameplan the location of one of their satellites, which you can do with an on-screen satellite location guide that helps you point your antenna. Once I got a fix, in the same canyon as above, I had a great 10 minute, clear conversation without interruption. I think it was because one of the satellites that they have was almost directly above me. They have only three satellites and they are geostationary, as in they "stand still", but they are at over 22,000 miles up! This should also theoretically help signal penetration in deep topography. Useless at the poles (sorry Alaska!).Interesting tech and one to watch. About 10 oz.I have also tried two of the newer generation 2-way text beacon/tracking devices: the Delorme Inreach and Briartek/Cerberus Cerberlink. In my opinion, these devices main attraction is the SOS functionality as I don't use the real-time tracking functionality at all. They both use bluetooth to connect to your smart phone and you use an app to construct messages and stuff. Of the two, I like the Briartek unit as it seemed to be less buggy once set up, the bluetooth connection was rock-solid and the unit itself is really bomb-proof. Customer service was EXCELLENT with them as well, which I cannot say about Delorme. As in: within three minutes I was talking directly to the president, who also heads up product development, about some of my concerns and questions. Awesome.I brought the Cerberlink on a 125-mile 12 day walk through the Wind Rivers in August of last year. One of the main attractions is that they have an in-house rental program of $65 for two weeks including 20 160-character messages. Additional messages are 75 cents but be careful. People can send you messages via email and if you don't inform your chosen contacts to abridge their signatures, you can dispose of your included messages fast (I am in the real estate business and everybody has lengthy non-disclosure tags in their signatures). I ran a test transmission and chewed up 7 of my included messages when one of my contacts responded with a massive email signature. This was when I called customer support and was patched directly to the president (see above). They also let you include RSS feeds in the field (weather, politics, sports, ack!) which you have to be careful with too. One severe weather alert I received was almost 1800 characters. It would be nice if they allowed you to limit the amount of characters receivable via RSS on your profile page. You can create any custom RSS feed you want.My main complaint with these new-generation text devices is that they weigh as much as a sat phone (both around 8 oz.) and it takes forever to compose, send/receive and verify transmission. You can send canned messages if you like, and they do have some stand-alone functionality, but in the time it takes to pull it out, pair it and send and verify a 160-character message, you could have had 2000-character equivalent conversation in real-time on a phone for roughly the same cost.The Iridium Extreme is the first device (to my knowledge) that combines the functionality of the Delorme/Spot/Ceberlink devices with a ruggedized phone, but it is really expensive, so I'll stick to renting until form factor, functionality and pricing parity come into play in the next few years.If you are looking for a good rental company that carries most of this stuff, Skycall Satellite here in Salt Lake is excellent. Russ, the owner, comped me a week-long use of the Inmarsat unit because he had no in-field feedback on it yet. Very flexible and knowledgeable and fairly priced.Edited by Seanneves on 01/20/2013 22:29:21 MST.
I have both the Isat phone pro and a Acr 406 link, on all trips I bring the just the beacon and some trips I bring both.
Rex -I notice that your grid of features indicates that the inReach doesn't support email. One of the features I like about the inReach that I think is worth mentioning (over the Spot) is that it "can" send a message to any email address that the user enters from the keyboard. Unlike some devices (Spot for example) you don't have to predefine an email list on a web page and sync the device to be able to use an email address. You can key in whatever email address you like. While the user at the other end can't respond "directly" (via reply) to your inReach email, they are provided a link to a page that allows them to respond (so in that sense I agree that the inReach doesn't do two way email) but to the inReach user, the send email function feels like email and allows you to send to any email address you key in. There is an advantage to predefining your email list and syncing the inReach to the list but it's not mandatory. The downside of using free-form email address entry (as opposed to a sync'd email address) is that the email address characters that are entered free-form are subtracted from the 160 characters that are available for a message. A sync'd email doesn't use any of the available 160 characters.
Rex,thanks for putting this together I have need to look at this for some time and you did the research for me.Sean, thank you also for your input.
Hi Sean,Have you used the Isat phone much?
Yes, but not extensively. I had the opportunity to use it on a backpacking trip to Grand Gulch last spring. The bottom of the canyon is 1500 feet lower than the rim. Pretty impressive. It gave me excellent call quality off of the southeastern (from SE Utah) satellite. Remember they don't "move" from our perspective, so it helps to familiarize yourself with the positions. The four satellites are geostationary so calls shouldn't get interrupted much once you have a fix but it helps to know which direction they lay before you go. There is an on-screen satellite finder that helps you point your antenna too. They are at a very high altitude, something like 22,000 miles, so they should have good deep canyon coverage.Here is a link to a coverage map showing the satellites: http://www.navtec.de/english/inmarsat.htmSame spot yielded a series of shorter calls on Iridium (Cut off after a few minutes). Interesting tech for sure. Didn't have the Globalstar on that trip, but I've come to like it.
Edited by Seanneves on 04/03/2013 16:41:51 MDT.
Cheers Sean,I have only used mine half a dozen times in the last six years and have always got good coverage. I only take it on trips where I know there will be no phone coverage.
MIke,One of the limitations of this kind of review (not actually spending time with each device), is that if the vendor web site doesn't state something clearly, I have no way to know. Like emailing from inReach, although as you pointed out, it's a not-quite-the-same-as-email experience.Thanks for clarifying that point!-- Rex
Edited by Rex on 04/03/2013 20:56:21 MDT.
"is that if the vendor web site doesn't state something clearly, I have no way to find out."Absolutely!The marketing people may have just accidentally left out some information that is really important to us users. On the other hand, maybe they just left it out accidentally on purpose. If a product as a weakness, it is best for them if they just skip over that part.--B.G.--
Sean,One of the interesting trade-offs between satellite phones using GEO satellites (Inmarsat, Terrestar, Thuraya) versus LEO satellites (Globalstar, Iridium), is making calls in deep canyons, or on the wrong side of a mountain.Using a GEO satellite, you must be able to see one particular point in the sky. If you can see that spot, you can talk as long as your credit is good. If you can't, you must moveUsing LEO satellites, you need to see a reasonable sized patch of sky. You can make a short call eventually, with an unpredictable cutoff, without moving.If I'm injured and immobile, a phone using LEO satellites might be a better choice. All texting devices use LEO satellites, so your SOS message will get through sooner or later.BTW, the Inmarsat IsatPhone Pro uses the latest generation I-4 satellites: only three of those, at longitudes 25 (EMEA), 143.5 (Asia-Pacific) and -98 (Americas). The navtec.de information is for the older satellites.Choosing any satellite device is about making a lot of tradeoffs.-- Rex
Seriously Rex... amazingly set of articles and an insane amount of research. These are the type of articles I expect to see here at BPL. Hope you got/get a nice check in the mail from Ryan for these three articles.
I plan to rent an Iridium 9505A or 9575 Extreme phone for long backcountry trips
Great points all, Rex. Incredible work. One the best articles I've seen on this site in a while. One of the reasons I like Iridium and Globalstar is that, generally, I'm not in need of a clear 10-minute call if I'm out and about.
It's hard to estimate battery life for satellite phones or texting devices. Manufacturers usually present the best possible numbers, but in real life backpackers might not reach those numbers for many reasons.Considering your risk of a dead battery surprise for different use cases might help.Satellite phonesMost backpackers will keep a sat phone turned off, unless you are calling or talking. If a sat phone has an estimated three hour battery life, you might get close to three hours of "phone turned on, antenna deployed, calling or trying to call", especially if you make calls in areas with few obstructions like trees. If you check battery life each time you use the sat phone, you can shorten those long chats with your sweetie when the battery gets low.With a little discipline, you have a low risk of a dead battery surprise.Satellite texting devicesMost backpackers will use satellite texting devices in one of three ways:1 - On all day and sending tracking messages, with occasional text messages.2 - Mostly off, except to send and receive messages once or twice per day.3 - Always off, unless you have an emergency.For case #1, your battery life is hard to predict. You can forget to turn off tracking at night. If you are in thick woods or deep canyons or your device is buried in your pack or twisted sideways or ..., you can use up the battery faster as the device repeatedly attempts to deliver tracking messages. You could have a dead battery surprise. Your sweetie will stop getting tracking messages and start worrying, and you can't send an SOS message if needed.You might need a backup power source, to reduce the risk of a dead battery surprise.Case #2 (no tracking) is similar to satellite phones: You turn the device on to send and receive messages, and turn it off when you are done. Now a device with an "8 day" battery life while tracking, could last several times longer. If you check battery life each time you use the device, you can scale back on message frequency when battery life gets low. You could send a message like "reducing message frequency to conserve battery life" so your sweetie won't worry so much.With a little discipline, you have a low risk of a dead battery surprise.Case #3 (emergencies only) could increase your battery life to several weeks or months. The main risk is forgetting to check the battery occasionally, because batteries don't hold a charge forever. All current satellite texting devices use or recommend lithium batteries with pretty long stored lifetimes.With some discipline, you have a low risk of a dead battery surprise.You could start with #1, and switch to #2 and #3 as your battery dies. Be sure to let your sweetie know!Only experience will help you feel comfortable with the battery life of a device, for your usage and discipline.If your risk tolerance is low, you will want a separate backup power source – which adds weight and complexity.The good news is you have lots of choices in devices, usage, and risk levels.The bad news is the choices come with risks and costs that are hard to evaluate. Choose wisely.-- Rex
Edited by Rex on 04/05/2013 00:10:09 MDT.
Rex - many thanks for doing such great research on this. Based on your findings, I decided to order a Yellowbrick and test it out. I just received it this evening, it only took four days to get from the UK to California. My first impressions after setting it up and playing with it for a few hours is that it is a very impressive and professional piece of equipment. The photos don't do it justice, you have to have it in your hand to appreciate just how well made it is. The display is much better than you would think from the marketing materials. The iphone app and the blog interface are simple and effective. I'm really impressed. I plan to do some testing over the next few weeks to see just how good the battery life is. I'm planning on doing the JMT in September, and I know that my Iridium phone will not have the battery life for that length of trip, but I'm optimistic this Yellowbrick will be up to the job. Thanks again for drawing attention to this excellent device.
Richard,Please keep us posted with your experiences. I found very few Yellowbrick reviews.I spent some backpacking time with a rented Briartek Cerberlink. Will post my impressions soon.-- Rex
Rex,very curious to hear about your Cerberlink impressions, as I plan on renting one this summer.
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Works exactly as expected. Light is not too powerful or dim, adjustable remote is nice.
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We needed a lamp that would not require us to add an electrical outlet behind the picture and was remote controlled due the the height of the picture. We looked around sites a couple of years ago with no luck. We found some that were battery operated but not remote controlled and the reviews were not favorable. When we saw this one we jumped on it. It is perfect for the spot!
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I bought 3 of these lights and they look great and work as documented. The problem I have is all have broken where the mounting tube attaches to the light. The light contains 4 D batteries which makes it heavy and unable to withstand a good eathquake jolt.
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By now I'm sure that everybody knows what a huge football fan I am, particularly for the Oakland Raiders. That is why I felt compelled to write an article not about how terrible Raider fans feel after the devastating end to the regular season, but about how emotionally attached sports fans become to their favorite team.
If anyone should know about this subject, it would be me. In my 23 years of life, I have been an avid sports fan. Not just football appeals to me, but many sports. Even the sports that are not thought of as being real athletics, such as professional wrestling and rodeo.
Through the years, I have watched teams and individual athletes mature in the sport they compete in. I find myself growing with these teams and athletes; emotionally.
The last time the Raiders won a SuperBowl was in 1984. I was only six years old at the time, and I won't lie and say that I remember the day the Raiders won the biggest title a football team can win. In fact, I probably didn't even know what football was at the time.
That's why I was so excited at the beginning of this season when the Raiders opened up strong. I, along with the millions of Raider fans across the world expected our team to go all the way. After the game Sun., Raider fans felt their hopes and dreams shatter with the completion of the 54 yard field goal completed by the New York Jets to win the ball game.
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After following the Raiders and cheering for the team for countless years, I find myself disappointed in the end of this season. At one time, we were unstoppable.
We were one of the first teams to clinch a divisional title, but finished in a wild card playoff game to start the post season. Our one time first round bye has turned into nothing. (The way the team is playing now, the only way they would make it to the second round is through a bye.)
Now don't get me wrong, I still love the Raiders and will stick by my word that we will win the SuperBowl this year, but only because I am a die hard fan, not because I want to admit the truth.
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M.H.S. in Child Protection | ABA FAQ
The first concentration, Applied Behavior Analysis, consists of 9 hours of academic coursework (3 courses) and meets the academic requirements for the certification as a Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst. The second concentration, Advanced Applied Behavior Analysis, comprised of 15 hours of academic coursework (5 courses) meets the academic requirements for certification as a Board Certified Behavior Analyst®. The Behavior Analyst Certification Board® has approved these course sequences as meeting the eligibility requirements for either the Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst® (9 credit series) or the Board Certified Behavior Analyst® (15 credit series). This approval is based on the new standards implemented in Fall 2005. Completion of this certificate or concentration program does not result in certification in ABA. Further supervision and passing the exam are required to be certified. Course verification forms indicating the distribution of required hours from the BACB's task list are available upon request. Additional hours practicing with supervision are required for both certifications. These hours can be pursued as part of the graduate program as elective practicum or can be gained independently. The required coursework and elective practicums required are listed below.
Concentration/Certificate in ABA / BCABA® Certificate Program
- ABA 710: Principles of Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 720: Applications of Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 740: Evaluating Interventions in Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 760: Practicum in ABA I (elective)
- ABA 770: Practicum in ABA II (elective)
Concentration/Certificate in Advanced ABA / BCBA® Program Curriculum
- ABA 710: Principles of Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 720: Applications of Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 740: Evaluation of Interventions in Applied Behavior Analysis
- ABA 750: Professional Issues in ABA
- ABA 730: Models of Behavioral Assessment and Intervention
- ABA 760: Practicum in ABA I (elective)
- ABA 770: Practicum in ABA II (elective)
- ABA 780: Advanced Practicum in ABA I (elective)
No. Students are able to take the ABA concentrations alone without completing the degree programs in which they are housed. Note that a bachelor's degree in psychology, education, counseling or a related field is required for the BCaBA certification and a master's degree in one of these fields is required for the BCBA certification. A bachelor's degree is required for admission to the program.
No. Completing the course series in ABA or Advanced ABA does NOT indicate certification in ABA. Certification can only be obtained by completing the necessary coursework and supervised experience as well as passing the certification exam. These certificate programs are designed to meet the academic coursework for the certification process, but are only 1 step in the process of becoming certified. For more information about behavior analysis certification, please refer to www.bacb®.com.
The Behavior Analyst Certification Board® has approved the bachelor's and master's course sequences as meeting the eligibility requirements for either the Board Certified Assistant Behavior Analyst (9 credit series) or the Board Certified Behavior Analyst (15 credit series). The doctoral minor will be submitted for approval before beginning in the Winter 2010 semester. Completion of this concentration program does not result in certification in ABA.
The practicum courses have also been approved by the BACB® but will require approval of distance sites before approval can be assured. Practicum are offered as electives and more answers about practicum can be found below. Students will need to complete the supervised experience and to pass the exam to be eligible for certification.
Yes. At this time, all courses are offered online with weekly interaction with instructors. Online technology allows us to lecture and lead discussions online just as we would in a classroom. These online sessions are typically scheduled in the evenings and last approximately 90 minutes. There is additional information to review on the class site prior to these meetings as well as assignments due at specific deadlines. Please see the computer requirements for more information about the technology that is required. Help is provided through the NSU help desk 24/7. Practicum courses are provided as electives to help students meet their supervision requirements for certification and will require face-to-face supervision by a BCBA®.
Yes there are set semesters. For the master's program, there are 3 15-week semesters per year and students can start the ABA series in any of the 3 semesters–the entry course is offered each semester. Other courses are alternated each semester so that students can complete the 3 course series in 2 semesters and the 5 course series in 3 taking 2 courses in a semester.
We do not limit the number of qualified students who can enroll in the master's of science program. Class size, however, is limited.
Students may transfer a maximum of six equivalent graduate level credits taken in the past five years in which grades of A or B were received.
No. Although you may be able to use previous coursework to meet the requirements for certification set by the BACB, NSU cannot assure that the coursework completed elsewhere will meet the requirements of the BACB for certification or that it will not overlap with the contact hour distribution offered in the courses taken at NSU. Course verification forms submitted to the BACB indicating the distribution of contact hours by subject area are available upon request, however, to assist students who have taken previous coursework in assessing the availability of courses in our program that will fulfill the BACB requirements for certification.
More information about tuition and fees is available at http://psychology.nova.edu/graduate/csi/tuition-fees.html.
For information about financial aid options, please contact the office of Student Financial Assistance (800) 541-6682, ext. 3380 or visit the web site at http://www.nova.edu/financialaid.
Admissions requirements for the master's program can be found at http://psychology.nova.edu/graduate/csi/admissions-requirements.html.
No, if an interview is required, it will be scheduled after review of your application and can take place on the phone. If students are in the area of the main campus, they may interview in person if they wish.
Yes. You must still meet the admissions requirements above and apply for admission to the program. Please indicate the courses you wish to take in your statement of interest.
If you take an ABA concentration, you will be eligible (with supervised experience or practicum) to take the exam for certification as a behavior analyst. Licensing for counselors will be determined by your state. You will not be able to be licensed as a Mental Health Counselor in the state of Florida without taking the Mental Health Counseling concentration as well.


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15 U.S. Code § 2218 - Administrative provisions
(a) Assistance to Administrator
Each department, agency, and instrumentality of the executive branch of the Federal Government and each independent regulatory agency of the United States is authorized and directed to furnish to the Administrator, upon written request, on a reimbursable basis or otherwise, such assistance as the Administrator deems necessary to carry out his functions and duties pursuant to this chapter, including, but not limited to, transfer of personnel with their consent and without prejudice to their position and ratings.
(b) Powers of Administrator
With respect to this chapter, the Administrator is authorized to—
(1) enter into, without regard to section 6101 of title 41 [1] such contracts, grants, leases, cooperative agreements, or other transactions as may be necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter;
(2) accept gifts and voluntary and uncompensated services, notwithstanding the provisions of section 1342 of title 31;
(3) purchase, lease, or otherwise acquire, own, hold, improve, use, or deal in and with any property (real, personal, or mixed, tangible or intangible), or interest in property, wherever situated; and sell, convey, mortgage, pledge, lease, exchange, or otherwise dispose of property and assets;
(4) procure temporary and intermittent services to the same extent as is authorized under section 3109 of title 5, but at rates not to exceed the daily equivalent of the maximum annual rate of basic pay then in effect for grade GS–15 of the General Schedule (5 U.S.C. 5332 (a)) for qualified experts; and
(c) Audit
The Administrator of FEMA and the Comptroller General of the United States, or any of their duly authorized representatives, shall have access to any books, documents, papers, and records of the recipients of contracts, grants, or other forms of assistance that are pertinent to its activities under this chapter for the purpose of audit or to determine if a proposed activity is in the public interest.
(d) Inventions and discoveries
All property rights with respect to inventions and discoveries, which are made in the course of or under contract with any government agency pursuant to this chapter, shall be subject to the basic policies set forth in the President's Statement of Government Patent Policy issued August 23, 1971, or such revisions of that statement of the policy as may subsequently be promulgated and published in the Federal Register.
(e) Coordination
(1) In general
To the extent practicable, the Administrator shall use existing programs, data, information, and facilities already available in other Federal Government departments and agencies and, where appropriate, existing research organizations, centers, and universities.
(2) Coordination of fire prevention and control programs
The Administrator shall provide liaison at an appropriate organizational level to assure coordination of the activities of the Administrator with Federal, State, and local government agencies and departments and nongovernmental organizations concerned with any matter related to programs of fire prevention and control.
(3) Coordination of emergency medical services programs
The Administrator shall provide liaison at an appropriate organizational level to assure coordination of the activities of the Administrator related to emergency medical services provided by fire service-based systems with Federal, State, and local government agencies and departments and nongovernmental organizations so concerned, as well as those entities concerned with emergency medical services generally.
[1] So in original. Probably should be followed by a comma.
Source(Pub. L. 93–498, § 21,Oct. 29, 1974, 88 Stat. 1548; Pub. L. 96–121, § 2,Nov. 16, 1979, 93 Stat. 863; Pub. L. 106–503, title I, § 110(a)(2)(B)(ix),Nov. 13, 2000, 114 Stat. 2302; Pub. L. 110–376, § 9(a),Oct. 8, 2008, 122 Stat. 4061; Pub. L. 112–239, div. A, title XVIII, § 1802(b)(1),Jan. 2, 2013, 126 Stat. 2100.)
References in Text
This chapter, referred to in text, was in the original "this Act", meaning Pub. L. 93–498, Oct. 29, 1974, 88 Stat. 1535, which is classified principally to this chapter. For complete classification of this Act to the Code, see Short Title note set out under section 2201 of this title and Tables.
In subsec. (b)(1), "section 6101 of title 41" substituted for "section 3709 of the Revised Statutes, as amended (41 U.S.C. 5)" on authority of Pub. L. 111–350, § 6(c),Jan. 4, 2011, 124 Stat. 3854, which Act enacted Title 41, Public Contracts.
In subsec. (b)(2), "section 1342 of title 31" substituted for "section 3679 of the Revised Statutes (31 U.S.C. 665(b))" on authority of Pub. L. 97–258, § 4(b),Sept. 13, 1982, 96 Stat. 1067, the first section of which enacted Title 31, Money and Finance.
2013—Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 112–239substituted "Administrator of FEMA" for "Director".
2008—Subsec. (e). Pub. L. 110–376amended subsec. (e) generally. Prior to amendment, text read as follows: "To the extent practicable, the Administrator shall utilize existing programs, data, information, and facilities already available in other Federal Government departments and agencies and, where appropriate, existing research organizations, centers, and universities. The Administrator shall provide liaison at an appropriate organizational level to assure coordination of his activities with State and local government agencies, departments, bureaus, or offices concerned with any matter related to programs of fire prevention and control and with private and other Federal organizations and offices so concerned."
2000—Subsec. (c). Pub. L. 106–503substituted "Director" for "Secretary".
1979—Subsec. (b)(4). Pub. L. 96–121substituted "the daily equivalent of the maximum annual rate of basic pay then in effect for grade GS–15 of the General Schedule (5 U.S.C. 5332 (a))" for "$100 a day".
Transfer of Functions
For transfer of all functions, personnel, assets, components, authorities, grant programs, and liabilities of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, including the functions of the Under Secretary for Federal Emergency Management relating thereto, to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, see section 315 (a)(1) of Title 6, Domestic Security.
For transfer of functions, personnel, assets, and liabilities of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, including the functions of the Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency relating thereto, to the Secretary of Homeland Security, and for treatment of related references, see former section 313 (1) andsections 551 (d), 552 (d), and 557 of Title 6, Domestic Security, and the Department of Homeland Security Reorganization Plan of November 25, 2002, as modified, set out as a note under section 542 of Title 6.
Functions of National Fire Prevention and Control Administration [now United States Fire Administration] and National Academy for Fire Prevention and Control generally transferred to Federal Emergency Management Agency. For further details see Transfer of Functions note set out under section 2202 of this title.
Enhancement of Science and Mathematics Programs
Pub. L. 105–108, § 7,Nov. 20, 1997, 111 Stat. 2265, provided that:
"(a) Definitions.—In this section:
"(1) Administrator.—The term 'Administrator' means the Administrator of the United States Fire Administration.
"(2) Educationally useful federal equipment.—The term 'educationally useful Federal equipment' means computers and related peripheral tools and research equipment that is appropriate for use in schools.
"(3) School.—The term 'school' means a public or private educational institution that serves any of the grades of kindergarten through grade 12.
"(b) Sense of Congress.—
"(1) In general.—It is the sense of Congress that the Administrator should, to the greatest extent practicable and in a manner consistent with applicable Federal law (including Executive Order No. 12999 [40 U.S.C. 549 note]), donate educationally useful Federal equipment to schools in order to enhance the science and mathematics programs of those schools.
"(2) Reports.—
"(A) In general.—Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act [Nov. 20, 1997], and annually thereafter, the Administrator shall prepare and submit to the President a report that meets the requirements of this paragraph. The President shall submit that report to Congress at the same time as the President submits a budget request to Congress under section 1105 (a) of title 31, United States Code.
"(B) Contents of report.—The report prepared by the Administrator under this paragraph shall describe any donations of educationally useful Federal equipment to schools made during the period covered by the report."
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