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We've been hard at work collecting and working on your feedback and suggestions, and are now happy to report that the next patch for Battlefield 3 will be released for PlayStation 3 on the 27th of March. More information on Xbox 360 and PC will come soon.
This patch includes many gameplay tweaks and balances; several suggested by you. The full list of changes and updates is as follows. This update will also bring the "Rent a Server" functionality to Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. For more updated information on this functionality, check back next week.
- Having the same map occur multiple times in the maplist now works properly
- If adding a new map to the servers maplist after a clear and then running "mapList.runNextRound" the server will ignore any remaining rounds on the map that it still run since before the clear and move to the new first map in the list. The server will now have reset the current rounds per map and run the map in the list for the number of rounds stated when adding the map.
- Maplist can contain up to 1000 entries now
- mapList.list will return at most 100 entries. To get the entire list, perform mapList.list repeatedly with increasing offsets (like banList.list)
-Players should no longer take fall damage from short falls.
-Players now get up from Prone slightly faster, allowing better odds of getting away from a grenade or threat when prone.
-Fixed some situations that would unintentionally make a player unrevivable.
-Reduced the black screen fade in time on spawn. The fade is still necessary for properly streaming in loading content at spawn, but it has been substantially reduced.
-Increased the spawn protection time from 1sec to 2sec. The protection will still be immediately canceled as soon as the player moves or shoots.
-Spawn protection will no longer be canceled by the player looking around.
-Increased the speed at which a player regains accuracy when aiming after moving for a more responsive experience. Firing before fully zoomed will still result inaccurate fire.
-Increased the inaccuracy and recoil added when a player is fully suppressed.
-Shotgun Buck and Flechette rounds now have a less suppressive effect at medium to long range.
-Tweaked the damage levels of Buck and Flechette rounds to balance them with other weapons.
-Improved the suppression of the .44 magnum, .357 magnum, and the 5.8x42mm DAP88 rounds from the Type88 sniper.
-Attempting to Crouch (like Prone) will now properly interrupt Sprint.
-Increased the effectiveness of Suppression Resist Specialization.
-Parachutes now respond to turn and throttle inputs more quickly.
-Switching from primary weapons to sidearms and back now takes less time.
-Increased the effectiveness of explosive resistance.
-Tweaked bipod deploy settings so players can no longer deploy a bipod in places higher than chin level.
-The bipod should now be more reliable when deploying on top of sloped objects like cars and rocks.
-Fixed several issues with vaulting objects, especially for thin railings.
-The Knife now only takes two swipes to kill when attacking from a position where a takedown is not possible.
-CRAM weapons on Carriers now count towards stationary weapon awards.
-The A10 properly gives Jet score again.
-Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.
-Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to the front and side armor of other main battle tanks. Primarily this means 1 less shot to the front, and very good hits to the side can result in a 1 hit to disable.
-Slightly reduced the repair speed of the repair tool.
-Increased the damage done by TOW weapons to armored vehicles.
-Increased the rate of fire and minimum damage of the Coax HMG.
-Increased the damage mounted gunner .50cal HMGs do at long range.
-Increased the power of the repair tool when killing soldiers or destroying vehicles slightly.
-Fixed a problem when locking on to two nearby targets, the locking should no longer jump rapidly between multiple targets. This applies to all locking weapons and Laser Designators.
-Increased the damage of the Javelin and Air to Ground missiles against laser designated targets.
-Javelin missiles fired without Laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
-Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.
-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.
-Increased the locking distance for AGM Missiles for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
-Reduced the locking time for the AGM Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against ground targets.
-Reduced the locking time for AA Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against air targets.
-Flares will no longer break the lock of a vehicle that is locked on, it will only distract the missiles.
-Flares now more reliably distract missiles, especially for Helicopters.
-Flares for Jets and Choppers now reload at 11 seconds again, except for the gunner, which remains unchanged at 20sec.
-AA Missiles are more difficult to dodge in Jets, this was unintended behavior that created an imbalance against skilled pilots.
-AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
-AA Missiles should no longer detonate before hitting their target or a Flare/ECM chaff cloud.
-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%.
-Fixed the SU-35 firing Air to Air missiles at a lower rate of fire than other vehicles.
-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.
-Increased the speed of the Helicopter AA missiles lock on to reduce the tedious nature of Helicopter dogfights and improve the Helicopter's defensive abilities vs Jets.
-Slightly reduced the damage of Jet cannons against Aircraft. Damage is now only slightly higher than it was originally at launch.
-Increased RPG and SMAW damage against aircraft.
-Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.
-Reduced the direct damage done by Attack Helicopter gunners vs Armor.
-Helicopter guns should now suppress correctly.
-Improved the accuracy of the Attack Helicopter's Rocket Pods, both guided and unguided.
-Slightly increased the damage of Attack Helicopter's Rocket Pods vs Infantry and other Helicopters.
-Additional fixes have been made to the TV missile to prevent it from blowing up the lauching vehicle.
-The Mi28 has received upgrades to its climbing and yawing abilities.
-Fixed an issue where guided rockets from the Mi28 did not follow the crosshair properly.
-Improved the accuracy of the Mi28 gun to match the AH1 gun.
-Increased the direct hit damage of the APFSDS rounds for the IFVs.
-Decreased the locking time of the IFV Guided Missile to make it more viable as an unlock.
-Miniguns and Helicopter Gunners now more quickly destroy parked cars.
-Increased the power of explosions from cars and other explosive static objects.
-Dying from the explosion of a car or other explosive static object should now correctly credit the player who caused the explosion.
-Adjusted the F35′s Center of Mass and Hover Engine for more stable, level flight in all flight modes.
-Updated the F35 weapon systems to be consistent with the other Jets.
-The F35 will now only attempt to enter Hover at low altitudes, though it will maintain the hover until forward flight is resumed, even if it reaches high altitude.
-The F35 and SU35 now properly have Ejection seats to prevent players from being killed when exiting the vehicle.
-Changed the Kornets to TOW launchers on Wake Island and moved the spawn position of the AAV to a more level position.
-Fixed several bugs with air vehicles colliding with objects at high speeds and taking no damage.
-Players will no longer receive suicides or team kills if they crash their vehicle (dying is punishment enough).
-The MAV will no longer destroy vehicles that run into it, instead it should be destroyed.
-Jet and Helicopter collisions should now properly result in the death of both vehicles.
-You can now spot with the EOD bot.
-Increased the base accuracy for AA guns and added a decrease in accuracy over the course of a burst.
-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.
-The carrier based CRAM stations are now properly tracked as stationary weapons.
-CRAM and Pantsir stationary AA weapons now have Air Radar equipped by default.
-Improved the sound feedback for damage to help players better understand the amount of damage their vehicle is taking.
-The A10′s extinguisher should now function properly.
-Disabled vehicles now have an increased reverse speed to help escape to cover after being disabled.
-The T90′s crosshair now more accurately represents the trajectory of the main gun.
-Toggle and Hold zoom settings now also apply to soldier controlled turrets on jeeps, transport helicopters, boats, and IFVs port guns.
-The AAV now has zoom and a 3P camera when using the turret.
-Tweaked the AAV's turret controls to be more useful when the vehicle is moving.
-The Z11w now properly functions with Below Radar.
-Below Radar will now also prevent the lock on of Stinger and IGLA missiles.
-Added Horns to all Jeeps.
-Tanks can no longer drive into the water and cross the Wake Island lagoon completely submerged.
Several weapons have had recoil or accuracy adjusted in orer to balance these weapons in effectiveness and also increase the feeling of individuality in each gun
-Added Extended Mags to the ASVAL. The Extended Mags can be unlocked at 200 kills with the AS VAL.
-Reduced the recoil of the SKS rifle and increased its maximum damage at close range.
-Fixed aimed firing max accuracy on the Pecheneg to be consistent with other LMGs.
-Semiautomatic and automatic shotguns firing FRAG rounds now do slightly less splash damage.
-The M26 MASS frag and slug rounds are now the more effective pump action versions.
-The M26 MASS and M320 now benefit from the Laser Sight when mounted with an Underslung Rail.
-Fixed the bolt action timer on the L96 that would cause an animation glitch.
-9x39mm rounds no longer benefit from the Sniper headshot bonus.
-Increased the damage of the 9x39mm rounds at long range.
-Fixed the AKS74u damage at max range, it was incorrectly higher than other carbines.
-Increased the damage of the .357 and .44 magnum rounds at max range.
-All semiautomatic and bolt weapons, including all shotgun slugs, now have their maximum damage out to 15m.
-Semiautomatic weapons will no longer "jam" if the player presses fire faster than the weapon is capable of shooting. Some semi-automatic weapons have had their rates of fire adjusted to fit this change.
-Bolt action sniper rounds now have a chance to kill at close range if the player is hit in the upper chest.
-Semiautomatic sniper rifles, Assault Rifles, LMGs, and shotgun slugs now have more consistent damage over long range. At maximum range shots to the legs will not require more hits to kill.
-The spread for Flechette rounds has been reduced slightly on all shotguns.
-The spread for Buckshot has been reduced on the M1014, DAO-12, and S12k. These weapons have an accuracy advantage over the USAS12 but are not as accurate as the 870.
-Zooming shotguns with Buckshot and Flechette loads will now result in a slightly tighter cone for the pellets.
-Reduced the delay time between quick knife attempts slightly. Attacks with the knife drawn are still significantly faster.
-Fixed the Rate of Fire when the USAS and MK3A1 are equipped with FRAG rounds. All other shotguns correctly had a reduced rate of fire with frags, except the USAS and MK3A1.
-Fixed an Accuracy bug when the MK3A1 shotgun is equipped with FRAG or Slug rounds.
-Shotguns equipped with slugs will no longer automatically begin reloading if the weapon is zoomed when the clip is empty. This allows players to see where the slug lands before reloading.
-Fixed 12g FRAG rounds not breaking glass at long range.
-Players can now earn the shotgun Ribbon using the M26 MASS.
-The underslung grenade launchers for Russian rifles now properly report GP30 in the kill log.
-Fixed the AEK971 40mm shotgun round listing itself as FRAG in the kill log.
-Fixed the 40mm smoke grenade so it no longer passes through soldiers and unbroken objects before it detonates.
-M27 IAR: No change. The M27 is a heavier version of the M416, giving it good all-around performance though it has worse performance on the move.
-RPK-74M: Reduced the initial recoil and vertical recoil. The RPK-74M is a more stable firing platform than the comparable M27, though it lacks the M27′s higher rate of fire.
-M249: Added an initial recoil. The M249 is the fastest firing belt fed LMG, giving it superior suppressive and damage abilities. The initial recoil makes it a bit harder to run and gun, while making little overall impact on performance.
-Type-88: Slightly increased the initial recoil, reduced muzzle drift. The Type88 fires the slowest of the medium caliber LMGs, though what it lacks in rate of fire it makes up for in controllability.
-PKP: Reduced recoil but added a slight initial recoil, increased damage at max range. The Pecheneg has a heavy vertical recoil with a hard hitting round and little drift, this makes it excellent at sustained fire.
-M60: Reduced the initial recoil, increased damage at all ranges. The M60 has a very low rate of fire that makes it the most controllable with the powerful 7.62x51mm round.
-M240B: Added an initial recoil, increased damage at all ranges. The fastest firing medium MG, the M240 has a substantial muzzle kick and drift that makes all that power difficult to control.
-QBB-95: Reduced the total recoil but increased muzzle drift and initial recoil. The QBB-95 should now kick harder but settle into full auto fire better, combined with the bullpup hip fire bonus this makes the QBB-95 a highly mobile LMG.
-MG36: Added an initial recoil. The MG36 fires at a fast 750rpm and makes a nice middle ground between the controllability of a clip LMG and the sustained firepower of a belt fed LMG.
-870: No change. The 870 is a popular and highly effective weapon.
-DAO-12: Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The DAO-12 has a high magazine capacity with a slow reload that makes it a solid all around shotgun.
M1014: Increased the rate of fire from 200 max to 210 max. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The M1014 was underperforming compared to the USAS12 and 870, it should now be more viable in CQB thanks to a higher rate of fire.
-S12k: Increased extended mag from 8 rounds to 10 rounds. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The S12k larger extended magazine but slower rate of fire should make it stand out against the M1014, while the DAO-12 has a higher capacity over all, but a slowe reload.
-MK3A1: Increased magazine capacity to 8 and 12 for normal and extended mag respectively. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The MK3A1 has a lower ROF than the USAS12, giving it slightly more ammo makes this an edge vs the USAS.
USAS-12: Increased the initial recoil. Reduced the total pellets fired from 12 to 9. The USAS 12 has a higher ROF than other shotguns, this recoil change better balances that advantage and the pellets balance its damage output.
-M4A1: No Change. Well-rounded carbine, with good rate of fire and controllable recoil.
-M4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.
-AKS-74U: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The AKS-74u's low rate of fire is paired with great controllability. The overall increase in sustained fire control should help this carbine stand out, while the first kick gives it character.
-SG553: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The SG553 is a lower rate of fire carbine with greater controllability than the G36C. The change to initial recoil should better highlight this difference.
-A91: No Change. The A91′s high rate of fire and bullpup from the hip accuracy is offset by a poor controllability on full auto.
-G36C: Reduced initial recoil. The G36C is a well-rounded carbine, with a medium rate of fire and a medium recoil. The 2 round burst mode gives this weapon an edge at mid-range.
-SCAR-H: Increased damage at maximum range and increased max range. The SCAR-H fires a heavier round than all other carbines, giving it better stopping power at range at the cost of a low fire rate that penalizes it in CQB.
-G53: Reduced recoil and drift, recoil settle times now similar to other carbines. The HK53 is a short carbine with a lot of initial kick but a stable recoil pattern and a medium rate of fire. The changes give it more character compared to the G36.
-QBZ-95B: Reduced muzzle sway, recoil settle times now similar to other carbines. A bullpup like the A91, the QBZ-95B is steady on the move with a lower rate of fire for controllable shots at longer range. The built in foregrip is now properly reflected in the weapon's stats.
-AK-74M: Reduced initial recoil and vertical recoil. The AK-74M sacrifices rate of fire for controllable automatic fire, the initial recoil was negatively affecting the feeling of controllability.
-M16A3: No Change. The M16 (both A3 and A4) provide a well-rounded stable firing platform with a high rate of fire that is relatively controllable.
-M16A4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M16A4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.
-M416: No change. The M416 is the middle ground AR, blending a medium recoil and rate of fire.
AEK-971: Increased initial recoil, reduced aimed accuracy slightly. The AEK has a very high rate of fire, and also a large muzzle drift that makes control difficult. The low initial recoil allowed a player to kill before the weapon's weaknesses kicked in while the reduced accuracy highlights its close range role.
-F2000: Reduced vertical recoil, increased zoomed accuracy slightly. As a bullpup, the F2000 has a bonus to accuracy on the move and from the hip while its high rate of fire sacrifices controllability for saturation. The previous changes were an overreaction, this is a corrective update.
-AN94: Reduced vertical recoil. The AN94′s 2 round burst mode is incredibly accurate, but it suffers from a low rate of fire on fully automatic. The recoil in full auto has been reduced somewhat to offset this penalty and make the AN94 more attractive.
-G3A3: Increased damage at all ranges, reduced vertical recoil. The G3A3′s heavy recoil and heavy round are offset by a low rate of fire and a small magazine. The G3A3 was clearly outclassed at all ranges.
-KH2002: No Change. The KH2002 is locked to burst fire, with a high rate of fire and a large muzzle drift the weapon favors accurate mid-range fire.
-L85A2: Increased accuracy, reduced muzzle drift. The L85 differs from other bullpup style ARs by having a low rate of fire, the accuracy and controllability were too low to offset the rate of fire.
-FAMAS: The FAMAS combines an extreme rate of fire with extreme recoil making it very difficult to use at anything other than close quarters combat. Due to update restrictions, the FAMAS had different stats on all 3 platforms. The FAMAS is now uniform on all platforms and now has the correct 25 round magazine.
-PP2000: Reduced the initial recoil. The PP2000 has a lower ROF than other PDWs and needed the controllability to be balanced.
-UMP45: Reduced accuracy loss during full auto. The UMP45 hits hard and has a controllable recoil at the cost of a heavy initial recoil kick.
-MP7: No Change. The MP7 has a very low recoil and a high muzzle drift that favors longer bursts than the P90.
-AS VAL: Increased vertical recoil, reduced first shot recoil, reduced accuracy on the move. The AS VAL fires a long range, highly accurate, high damage projectile that favors short bursts or single fire when stationary. While still quite good from the hip, the AS VAL will suffer if fired while moving and aimed.
-PDW-R: Reduced the initial recoil. The PDW-R has high recoil and favors burst fire, the added initial recoil was making it less effective in small bursts.
-P90: Reduced the initial recoil. The P90 favors a run and gun play style using long bursts to control muzzle drift, the initial recoil was making bursting ineffective.
-PP-19: Slightly reduced the initial recoil when firing, increased base damage. The PP-19′s high initial recoil was over penalizing the burst fire needed to be effective on the low damage, high capacity weapon.
-Fixed the 7x scope not zooming to the full 7x on all weapons.
-Corrected the M39′s laser sight so it points at the point of impact and aligns with scopes when zoomed.
-Fixed a misaligned scope crosshair on the G3A3 using the Rifle Scope 6x.
-Fixed the PKA and PKA-S scopes on the M416 having swapped zoom levels.
-The L96 Straight Pull bolt now functions properly.
-The L96 ironsights have been adjusted for a clearer aiming picture and correct use of the integral front sight.
-The L96 now properly shows scope glint when using the 8x, and 12x scopes.
-Tweaked IRNV to be more consistent across all levels.
-Fixed a rendering issue with IRNV view when taking damage.
-Tweaked the IRNV zoom times and scope visible areas to be the same across all weapons (some were faster than others).
-Fixed the QBU-88 sniper and the L96 IRNV scopes to use the proper sniper reticule
-The Accuracy increase and Recoil reduction of the Bipod has been significantly improved for Assault Rifles and Carbines.
-The Bipod now provides similar Accuracy and Recoil benefits no matter if the weapon is fired while aiming or without aiming for all weapons. Previously only LMGs were worked this way. This especially improves the speed at which snipers can make follow up shots, and also allows effective unaimed suppressive fire with Assault Rifles and Carbines.
-Increased the Speed at which a bipod is deployed, allowing the user to obtain the bipod's bonus sooner after the deploy has started and allowing the weapon to be aimed in a far shorter time. The speed has been increased 40-50%, depending on the weapon and animation.
-The Vertical Recoil penalty of the Heavy Barrel has been reduced. The value has been changed from a global percent increase to a weapon specific value.
-A small Hip Accuracy penalty has been added to the Heavy Barrel to represent the added weight of the accessory, as well as focus the attachment on accurate mid and long range fire. The exact penalty amount is a weapon specific value.
-Several weapons with low default bullet speed now have their bullet speed increased when the Heavy Barrel is equipped. This is in effect for the A91, G3A3, AKS-74u, G36C, M4A1, SCAR-H, SG553, G53, and QBZ-95B.
-The Heavy Barrel is now also paired with Match Rounds which increase the maximum range of the weapon. The minimum and maximum damage are unchanged, weapons with the Heavy Barrel will be more effective in mid range.
-The Aimed Accuracy bonus provided by the Heavy Barrel has been increased. This will increase the effectiveness of the Heavy Barrel for small bursts, as originally intended.
-Tweaked IRNV to be more consistent across all levels.
-Fixed a rendering issue with IRNV view when taking damage.
-Tweaked the IRNV zoom times and scope visible areas to be the same across all weapons (some were faster than others).
-Fixed the QBU-88 sniper and the L96 IRNV scopes to use the proper sniper reticule.
-The Horizontal Sway reduction has been changed from a global percent reduction to a weapon specific value reduction. For most guns this means very little change, for guns which have a large horizontal recoil the change is more substation. The FAMAS, F2000, and AEK971 are most effected, the AK-74, M16, and M416 are nearly unchanged.
-A small long range Aimed Accuracy penalty has been added to the foregrip. Players who generally find themselves fighting at mid to long range may want to change their accessory, while players fighting in CQB will go largely unaffected. Combining the Foregrip with a Silencer or a Heavy Barrel will offset this penalty.
-The Hip Accuracy bonus provided by the Laser Sight has been increased. Some PDWs have had their crouch and prone base stats adjusted to prevent hip firing being more accurate than aimed fire when using a laser sight.
-The bonus is now a weapon specific value instead of a global percentage, some guns receive larger or smaller bonuses, though all bonuses are better than they were previously.
-The Suppressor no longer reduces the maximum damage of a weapon when equipped. Instead the Suppressor reduces the minimum and maximum range of the weapon, making it ideal for CQB and Stealth. This change will make the Suppressor slightly more effective at long range, where the bullet drop and speed makes shots difficult already, and reduces the power of the suppressor at mid range slightly.
-The Suppressor's recoil bonus remains unchanged at a global 10% decrease. This is less than the Flash Suppressor's bonus for all weapons.
-The Hip Accuracy penalty of the Suppressor has been changed from a global percentage to a per weapon value. Generally this penalty is higher now, but not for all weapons. Specifically, the belt LMGs and bolt Snipers do not have any additional hip fire penalty, as their penalty is already at the maximum possible value.
-Reduced the Aimed Accuracy bonus of the Suppressor from 50% to 25%. A Suppressor and Foregrip combo will have similar accuracy to a weapon without any Accessories, at the penalty of worse Hip Fire Accuracy and Range and with the benefit of much improved Stealth and reduced Recoil.
-The Flash Suppressor no longer reduces accuracy for Automatic Fire.
-The Flash Suppressor now also works as a recoil compensator, reducing the Vertical Recoil by a weapon specific value. This bonus is larger than the bonus provided by the Suppressor.
-A small Hip Accuracy penalty has been added to the Flash Suppressor to represent the added weight of the accessory. The exact penalty amount is a weapon specific value.
-Reduced the spot times on C4 and Claymore projectiles from 30 to 15 sec.
-Tweaked the controls and physics for the EOD bot to improve its handling and aiming capabilities.
-The Radio Beacon, Mortar, MAV, EOD bot, T-UGS, and SOFLAM should now be much easier to deploy.
-The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process.
-The MAV now properly shows up in the Kill Feed. Previously it simply displayed "KILLED."
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.
-Matched the motion sensor sweep frequency and range on the MAV to the TUGS.
-Players will no longer auto enter SOFLAM, MAV, and EOD bots after they are deployed.
-Players may now use their knife to destroy enemy equipment.
-C4 will no longer be detonable after a player respawns, if the player is revived within 5 seconds he can still detonate his C4.
-The player may now have a maximum number of mines which will persist after the player's death. Deploying more than the maximum of 6 mines will remove a previous mine from the world.
-Claymores now live up to 5 seconds after a player dies, the player can have a max 2 claymores planted at the same time.
-Claymores can now detonate from vehicles and can be used to disable jeeps or kill the passengers in light jeeps. Claymores will not do any damage to heavy vehicles.
-Ammobags now stay until the user redeploys them like Medkits.
-Ammobags resupply bullets more quickly, but explosives resupply more slowly, especially 40mm grenades.
-Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG, SMAW, and 40mm grenade projectiles against infantry.
-Reduced the total number of RPG and SMAW missiles carried from 5 to 4. Players desiring more rockets will want to use the Explosive spec.
-Slightly increased the heal rate of the Medical Crate.
-The MAV now will also descend by pressing the Crouch Toggle key. (PC)
-The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn.
-Tweaked M224 exit points so the player faces in the direction of the mortar when he exits.
-Mines, Claymores, C4 and other deployable items will now only appear on the minimap when spotted by a teammate.
-Fixed a bug where players would spawn close to the enemy team at the start of the round.
-Tehran Highway playable area has been doubled and is now the same as the Squad Deathmatch set up. Spawn points have been tweaked, and an extra spawn zone has been added north of the footbridge.
-Kharg Island has a new spawn zone layout, along with a bigger playable area and new cover objects. Spawn points have also been tweaked.
-Strike at Karkand spawns zones have been tweaked to improve player flow. Spawn points have been tweaked to improve safety upon spawning.
-Sharqi Peninsula spawn zones have been adjusted to optimize player movement. Spawn points have been tweaked so players spawn more safely.
-Seine Crossing spawn zone set up has been improved. There is a new spawn zone by the alleyway to the northwest with additional spawn points.
-Caspain Border spawn zones have been tweaked slightly.
-Fixed a bug where players would spawn close to the enemy team at the start of the round.
-Damavand Peak layout and spawn zones have been tightened to reduce the spread of players across the map
-Tehran Highway now features an extra spawn zone north of the footbridge, along with tweaked spawn points.
-Noshahr Canals spawn zones have been tweaked. Removed unsafe spawn points in the Northeast corner, and in the middle of the container area to the Southwest.
PlayStation 3 players may now turn off anti-alias in the options menu to reduce input lag.
As has been rumored for some time, we are making some improvements to the commo-rose on PC. This is partially based on feedback from the community.
Please be aware that the commo-rose will change depending on your current position – vehicles and infantry each have separate call outs. Each function should trigger appropriate voice messages as well as icons on the mini map.
Each button should trigger appropriate voice messages as well as icons on the mini map. Players should keep an eye on the mini map for these icons that will flash when a team mate is requesting aid via the commo-rose.
we are also adjusting the level of detail to give a clearer picture for players when using the mini-map.
The three new mini map modes are:
LOL Come on guys what the heck. I love BF3. But why on earth do you guys not have every weapon that you put the game do exactly as it does in real live. Like now any weapon in this game from the knife to the RPG, if I put it in your head your dead instantly. Stop nerfing everything. If its over powering to other weapons then just give everybody a slingshot. Just make everything as it is in real life. And stop nerfing it. I shot an RPG 5′ from a guy he runs away I committed suicide, really. Any body within 20′ that is standing up is dead.
Why? why did you guys killed the mg36? it was very a very good gun, not overpowered and very balanced, why dice? WHY?!!?!?!
Your really missing the point with almost every aspect of your update. even though it may have been an un intended aspect of the game having the ability to use the mav as an elevator it brings a new and fresh dimension to the game. Isn't the fact that it takes two players to use the elevator penelty enough. I've never used it myself but i think its great that people are creating their own tactics . Their position is no secret with the kill cam. Stop over thinking every aspect of the game, and leave the killing up to us, your not a mum supervising a room of teens.
Another great game ruined. If its not broken don't try to(fix it). the core principle of this game is realistic team based first person shooter to complete or win an objective. use the right tools to achieve specific tasks, not one gun fits all. mobile aa gun is now useless in defense against infantry. Unrealistic. Attack helicopter rockets now only scratch infantry. Unrealistic. Shotguns only bruise infantry. Unrealistic. Its great that your actively supporting the game but don't take the fun out of it it was a great game that required team work to overcome superior air attacks. Yes the mobile aa gun is powerful and frustrating but that's what makes a game great that you need to work as a team work/ squad to take it out. before the update the great feeling that if you heard an attack helicopter/ tank/ aagun/ shotgun its best to take cover in respect to its firepower. I've lost that shiver that got my adrenaline pumping when i stumble upon them. What's the point in having them. Go back to the previous version you had it right then. There was a good reason why you did it that way in the first place. Stick to map expansions and leave our game alone.
Patch left the helicopter very weak. I was sad about that because I am a pilot and lover of Vipers havocs! Dice, please fix it for us! Thank you.
Notice how the only people whining about the update are the whiny bitches using the USAS or the FAMAS??? Sry your spamming days are over time to learn how to play the game now…
Will Ps3 ever get the 3 new maps? I really wanna try them out. I also think that they should do somthing about the LMGs first 2-3 bullets being fired, I will line up a shot with the 240B no grip and i will put the guy in the sights at maybe 50-60 yards away and ill burst fire. Blap blap blap, Not one hit, ill lower the shot a bit let the recoil fall back down and Blap blap blap blap…..Nothing he turns and engages into a fire fight and im at a lose for words because i just wadted 6-7 shots on a guy that should of been a hit. I know the first few shots of a gun are the most accurate.
Why did Xbox not get the satellite/hybrid/detailed mini map modes? Also I'd happily sacrifice my in-game scoreboard for the commo-rose, there is a scoreboard in the pause menu anyway..
Great update! Most weapons now are fair. But me being an AKS-74u fan, it slightly feels like the damage has been reduced at close-mid range. I mean I get that the gun has a not so fast fire rate but countless times I would be at least 10m away from someone, shooting them in the chest and would take 2 thirds of my mag. With the AKS-74u being the baby brother of the AK-74m, it does not have the same exact fire rate as the other variants, but has a fire rate of 700 instead of 650. I think since its a smaller variant of the group it'd be better by compensating the range for the extra fire rate instead.
Update was good but didn't like having to download the massive Back to Karkand expansion :/
Love the patch! The game got a lot more fair, and I'm quite happy that the overpowered weapons of the past were balanced out. EVEN IF a weapon is supposed to be overpowered in real life, it just takes the fun out of it when it's in the game. Also, I'm revisiting weapons that I once shunned because of the improvements. I'm giving them a second chance and liking it!
Disappointed that there's no color blindness assist though.
FAMAS…now the CRAPAS
This updated patch did only one thing, made Battlefield 3 terrible to play. It was great before, but now it is just being flushed down the drain. Thanks a lot developers of this once fine game.
I'm NOT a fan of the latest update since I've been using the USAS-12 and the FAMAS the most. The recoil on the FAMAS has gotten worst to where at even close range, it really hard to hit my target. Actually, alot of the weapons have changed dramatically, it's like having to learn them all again. I guess it would not be such an issue for those who are new to the game, but it's hardest for those who have been playing for awhile. Also, I am not able to revive teammates at even point blank range at times. I do like the added option to quit the game after a match and the extended maps in Tehran Highway and Kharg Island in TDM. The spawning areas are also better in TDM.
I was really happy with the update, no more (or hardly any) annoying MAVs, no more planet-destroying USAS and FAMAS (I use the term planet-destroying lightly, I was just sick of seeing every man and his dog using them), vehicles are much more responsive (I'm yet to try out the F-35 since the patch, I hated it beforehand)
Only thing I'm disappointed about is the lack of the comm. rose! I mean it's nice to have the scoreboard at the press of a button, but I'd prefer the rose any day, I can deal with the scoreboard being in the pause menu! Please take this into consideration! Also please add another faction! SAS or PLA like from BF2! :D
i think thats a good idea about the new factions is good to, but i think you should'nt get your hopes up about it, because the game really just involves russia and america.
u made the same point i was going to make, but i think where the update really shines is the new sound effects, they really draw you in when your hit with a missile while trying to evade it in your super hornet. speaking of that, the jet movements are finally like actual jet movements, you know…fast and nimble? makes a real dogfight happen, but one thing that i have stumbled upon lately is teammates in hardcore, sitting in the stationary AA, blasting the shit out of anyone, anything that belongs to the same team, shooting spawning infantry, stationed jets and helicopters, FLYING jets and helicopters, can someone please explain why someone would do this for an entire round? and not just one person, many have done it, i cant think of any other reason except pure, idiotic kicks. someone give me some insight im dying to know.
The solution would be to kick that person from the server or hide behind the AA gun and shoot him every time he gets in it ;)
damn this update sucks!
i just want to be able to play a regular game on a DICE server again. Rented servers – great.. should be there. But I hate getting kicked out for no good reason. I seriously enjoyed the old set up of playing RUSH or CONQUEST or whatever, and only that. Not getting jumped around gameplays that I didn't ask for. I don't think I'll play BF3 again. It's awful. I loved this game but it's ruined now. You CAN'T CHANGE AN ENTIRE GAME and expect everything to be great. It sucks and I'm playing MOW3 again. Thanks guys. I hate killstreak awards but it's better than this crap.
I mean WTF why change everything about this awesome game. I mean yes i understand its 2 make it fairer but life isnt fair and im putting this as an example because dice were supposed 2 make it the most realistic 1st person shooting game of 2011.And now they go and change every little fucking thing we enjoyed like the mav elevator it might not be fair but i used 2 do it and we used 2 have awseome building 2 building mini sniper wars.Also you try and make it fair for the f-35 when it hovers it works.But if you want to feel the real impact bf3 then stuff like hovering the godamn plane better be hard. But anyway on the contrary im happy about the changes in the usas 12 because it really ruined my gameplay experiance in operation metro it was just spawning and dying spawning and dying im sure other people that have unlocked the usas 12 arent happy lol but anyways………….. another patch they should make is extend the out of area part so 2 protect people that r spawning but also extend the time limit that you can stay out of boundaries if uve just come out of a jet because you got disabled and jump into the enemy base or carrier and steal another jet and thats what i call a true bf3/ninja experiance thats all so plzz change every stupid thing we dont like o ye and change that goddamn ripoff 2 rent a server and let there be like jets only mode so people can practice . peace out bf3ers btw DICE THE GAME REALLY SUCKS RIGHT NOW SO HURRY ……….I LOOK FORWARD é GOOD CHANGES .
I to had loved this game. Dice you had an easy job in changing a couple of things not the whole fucking game!!! I will never play this game again until they change this shit. This game is unplayable at this point and i to have went out the night of Dice changing the whole game and got MW3. Dice go sit on your dads stick!! YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK !!!
true its sucking
THis game is absolute garbage now…I loved it before the patch… and played it all the time. All you idiots had to do was reduce the firing rate of the USAS …THATS ITTT. Instead you incompetent morons ruined every good and fun feature about the game. I bought MW3 and I am sticking to it…go sit on a stick dice..
i loved this game its the best bf game since 2142 that i used to love back in the day. unfortunately the game has been ruined !!!!! when bf3 came out it stole myself and all my friends from cod…… Now we are sick of bf3 because the update killed it ive been back on cod since the update i hope you sort this out as EA have just took a huge dump on there leading title WAY TO GO SINCE YOU HAVE JUST TOOK MOST OF YOUR CONSUMERS AWAY FROM COD !!!!
This has ruined BF3 i used to love the game ! Now it is a pile of shit.
Today i was shooting someone in a jet next thing ' Killed by Admin ' WTF ! when i want to play a quick match it doesn't mean i want to join someone elses crappy little server, i bought a server to see whats it like and i hated it, it was crap 'play by your rules' well my rules would of been jets only but nope…. thats what i was thinking when i rented it and sort out your god damn prices they are overly high i don't think someone would want to pay that much just to rent a server when you could just play one which is already been hosted by you people fix your game. Look this is really stupid you have to pay to play private match… this is why MW3 is out doing you by loads of players you really need to fix your game.
One word = ' Rip Off '
Bloody been playing all the Battlefield's for a long time and so far the one of the good ones gets ruined.
get rid of this stupid patch its a load of B me and alot more people will just stop playing and not buy your games if you dont get this patch off and this stupid guy fired. if your fans do this to the game… dont listen to them!
EA, please sort this new patch out.
I personally used to enjoy RUSH games, so: quick match, game mode:rush, map: any and away i go endless games of rush….noy anymore ?
Endless RENTED servers ran by kids who kick me outta the game when i kill them or teamkill me or whatever when i get in the chopper (cos they wanted it!).
Also, I'm aware i can still find rush games hosted on DICE servers using the search function, but it'll be rush and then when the game ends may revert to conquest WTF !! Can you bring back a menu so that a player can simply play rush on a dice server, or conquest on a dice server so we don't have to have ll this rent a server garbage rammed down our throats !?
I agree , I have been kicked so many times now and like you said just because some renter gets mad because you kill them or are beating them , this really sucks especially when you've invested an hour or so playing these freaking 1000 kill games and then get kicked and lose your stats for that game . So please dice let the real fans of this beautifully crafted game enjoy it like it is supposed to be enjoyed . Put a sepperate menu for the renters from the original dice servers . Thanks !
Seperate the player-made servers from normal servers, unless of course, you want to lose all your players.
Can't agree more with almost every comment made here about this last update killing the game. Stingers are worthless now need to be almost in the jet or helicopter in order to even get the sight to begin to lock on. Just a shame this game was really taking people away from a number of other games and now I'm sure this last update as it's called will just send most packing.
I just wish they had mentioned in the battle field 3 store that if you purchase any of these unlock kits you'll just be wasting your money because they don't currently work. I made the mistake of buying ultimate unlock kit and have had nothing but emails saying EA is working on the problem please wait. All I can say is wow I would have never expected anything like this from EA.
Another thing is if was intended for ps3 why you make it available to xbox360 players?
Thanks again for your messages letting me know your developers are working on the problem which has been 3 days now…
Alan Kertz is Core Gameplay Designer on Battlefield 3. In this "Inside DICE" post, he explains how feedback from the community has a direct impact on the balancing we do on a number of items in our upcoming game update.
He is the guy.. He killed the game!!
Alan Kertz is Core Gameplay Designer on Battlefield 3. In this "Inside DICE" post, he explains how feedback from the community has a direct impact on the balancing we do on a number of items in our upcoming game update.
He is the guy.. He killed the game!!
Why are we waiting??? Where the hell is the decison makers? EA / DICE should have a POLL of what we think about the recent patches : Do gamers want back the pre-patch?? YES or No
Yes for me!!!!!
Yet again you have unbalanced the game in favor of jets and Heli. At least before you had a chance to fight off the heli with the tanks guided shells. Jets and Heli remain all but unstoppable from the ground. If your team does not have experienced pilots your side is doomed to fail. This will be the last EA Battlefield game for me; hopefully enough other players feel the same way and vote with their wallet.
Why do you have to make the air power so f en unstoppable????
WTF is this patch all about??? The only thing I don't agree with is not being able to use the MAV as an elevator. That takes all the fun out of using the recon class. This patch is BS "suggested by you" what crap; more like whined enough for us to listen. Definitely thinking about switching to MW3 after this round of horsesh!t.
And what's with this "rent a server" silliness??? yesterday I played a round of TDM for like 45min because whatever jackbag server I was playing on had the kill amount set to like 500. Why can't I pick if I want to play on a rented server or not? It was bad enough about a month ago when it would change from TDM to SDM between rounds. I hate SDM with a passion and would have to leave every other game to get back into TDM.
Added weight of a flash suppressor?? We're talking ounces compared to the standard muzzle break. whoever they have doing the physics for these changes needs to get out of the computer room and hit the range.
For the "scope glint" they should introduce a Anti- reflection Device or ARD. I've got one on my real ACOG so why can't I have one in the game- if you use it you have to use the standard 8x scope; that would prevent having to patch in a whole other mod category, or maybe do that and have optic specific mods too
More than anything- let me use my MAV to get on top if stuff again
Or make the anti-glare device use up the biopod slot (and now that silencers apparently don't have damage reduction penalty, really amp up the noise on all sniper rifles as a trade off for glint and highlight people on the minimap more when shooting un-silenced). I agree. They should make more accessories. However, I DO NOT agree with using a MAV as an elevator. It was fun but it lead to everyone playing on top the highway map and was completely counter productive to the objectives. Plus it allowed you to somewhat cheat. The spawn beacon and parachute is your clever way of getting on top of things and it's more of a challenge AND if you screw it up you gotta suicide or wait. So it's more of a fair trade off for strategic positioning or chance to be strategically positioned. Takes more time.
maybe dice can throw in a "air drop" gadget… probably wishful thinking but i never had a problem taking snipers out on roof tops most buildings you fellas would go on were so high you had to be on the edge of them anyway. i could pick you off from a building or shrub on a hill side or right under you. The only problem is when the highway would glitch on me and block the shot, but i kept you, the sniper, busy and it let my squad get the objective. tho dice should put more/better sniper nests in, that's something for the next one i suppose. over all i think they are trying make the sniper more of a team player in the squad. trying to weed out the k/d nuts who play conquest like tdm. i just hope dice gets organized better in the future and doesn't drop things that change a game so drastically at the CEO's whim, since games are rather pricey these days, and moneys tight with a lot of people. people who just want more bang for their buck.
Uh, did you remove the flash suppressor on the M98B ? Argh!! I gotta go back and look for it again but I took a break from BF3 and came back and it looks like a new game or something. At least the infrared scope is better…But in my short round I played last night, I wasn't too happy. =( Could just be rusty. I hope…
But if using the silencer is now the thing (if it doesn't reduce damage and hides muzzle flash) then fine…I'll trade off the range, which I think flash suppressor already limited anyway right? Still the M98′s range is excellent to begin with…I hope it doesn't limit range THAT much…
Yeah that is cool too , but I hate when you join a game and the renter sets the matches with like 1000 kills and you invest say an hour into it and you get booted off the server or the server crashes and you dont get credit for your stats in that match . Another thing , does anyone know if there are going to be any more assignments ? I only have a few more spots and I'm done with all mine .
I agree. Also, yea, I would love to know when the next round of maps/weapons (assignment based or not) will come out. I think more maps and weapons or accessories even are a much better time investment…Well hell, with the money they will make from rent a server they should be able to pay some designers to make some new maps. Hell, they should release an editor and have the community compete to make new maps! That's free labor! =)
OH plus if you can then set up your own server to use your own custom maps…. Can we say old school counter strike nostalgia? That would be PERFECT. I'm still waiting for a game to rival what we had freaking years ago.
Ah, I read another blog post. June, for close quarters combat. Well cool, but I hope I can still snipe =)
Did they forget to mention that you can now leave servers between matches? I didn't see anything about it, but I hated when we couldn't do that.
Please can someone shed some light on when the patch will be available for the Japanese? I read somewhere that it was the 4th of April, but my PS3 does not prompt me for an update. I have been playing on limited normal servers since the March 27th update, and am getting more and more frustrated by it all. Please can someone point me in the right direction as to when I will be able to update and play with my friends in other countries. Its a fantastic game, but these things tend to push loyal followers away. Keep us informed PEASE.
fix the glitching
so if i dont want to camp into a corner with a bipod, im stuck with useless attachments…thanks dice, this will definitely keep interest in your game
everyone needs to STOP COMPLAINING! All comments about how this patch ruined battlefield are completely false. No one wants to here you complain about how bad you are doing so unless you have a serious comment to make you should leave this page and go sell bf3.
I only have 2 complaints and they are ligit , the first and foremost is the pussies that rent a server and get killed a couple of times and kick you for it , well they suck . The second is that when I'm flying any jet and I'm going to do a up and over I get stuck going straight up , it happens way too often so there is a glitch with that , otherwise this game rocks man .
When you go straight up it slows your jet down so much that it acts like its falling. It isn't a glitch but try to keep a steady speed and if you have to go up try to do so at an angle
It would be nice to see a FLIGHT training map with the Jets and helicopters, I like to fly in games like this but its hard to practice flying when you get knocked out of the sky in a matter of minutes…sorry for re posting, seems like I cant spell these days.
It would be nice to see a fight training map with the Jets and helicopters, I like to fly in games like this but its hard to practice flying when you get knocked out of the sky in a matter of minutes.
They only thing I'm happy about with this patch is the tweaking of the controls of the F35 jet. Still I'm not 100% satisfied. But for the rest I'm greatly disappointed with this patch. So many adjustments made is 'bullshit' in my eyes, and obviously it's not nice to discover new bugs in the game.
For christ sake, fix those damn laser guided missles on jets!
+1 ezrhino
"I'm a late comer to BF3, but have played the game religiously up until this patch and it was all for nothing. Thanks for completely ruining my BF3 experience."
Pros: USAS tweaked. I play for fun, and it's not fun to be mowed down by some player that runs the map and leading the board in kills with a cheap weapon with no skill to use, especially at range. I haven't unlocked it yet, only picked it up on the battlefield, and yet once I experienced the raw domination of the weapon I put it down. Can't say that for the other vets. You've earned your rank, now act like it.
Cons: Purchasing sissy-kits, what… the… frack is that about? Really? So now all the time I've put into my soldier, a lot of the skill I've acquired, can now be purchased by intros? Do you know how hard it was to put hours in the cockpit of a jet or helicopter to finally unlock missiles or extinguisher or below radar? Or the amount of awesomeness spent in a MBT to earn reactive armor?
Everything you said is true man usas really pisses me off.
Eighth, supression is way high. Not only do you get supression assists like candy and ribbons too, the supression from a single sniper shot last forever let alone other rifles. Doesnt make any sense.
Most of this sounds good, but if what other players are saying is true I doubt I will even put battlefield into my xbox when the update drops. Good job alienating your dedicated players, EA and DICE.
Other players might be talking trash bout this because they cant get kills as easy, (depending on what part of the update) or that they might be getting killed to easily, or it might even be that they cant jus run around being a noob with their usas(u suck at shooting) and get 40 kills a game. and if these are xbox players that are saying bad things about the update,. i don't see how they would know, unless they have a ps3 and play it on there.
Where do begin: Many players have hit on the things that should not have been changed. First, it doesnt make sense that a mortar can't delopyed in a base. When somone did this it was pretty easy to spot them and snipe or mortar them back. However, now if a team gets pushed back to their spawn in a map, lets say in Bazaar the mortar was effective in helping move attackers forward. Now you can forget it. I can't imagine that this wasn't even tought of?
Second, ok the mav wasn't made for an elevator. But it did bring an element to the game for the sniper and for other players to get that sniper. So oh well. Most can agree that limiting the mav kills to one is fine, it makes sense that in real life a piece of plastic should be destroyed after running into a person. But maybe give the recon guy something else to do? Mortar Strike? Make the solfam a better waepon that can't be seen across the entire map?
Third, the foregrip and supressor is useless now but the flash suppressor is actually better for reducing recoil? Most weapons I have tried to use supressor with foregrip have huge recoil up and to the right? Really?
Fourth, anyone that buys the kits is just plain lazy.
Fifth, why does it take an entire clip from an assualt rifle to kill an enemy from across the street when aiming and hitting the chest. The push to hit the head is too big.
Sixth, game still crashes during inital loads, in the game, in the spawn, everywhere.
Seventh, Ok USAS with frag rounds was ridiculous, but it was also a weapon at the top of the unlock tree. Now it is pretty musch useless. The Jackhammer and the DAO-12 are better? The FAMAS was a stable weapon, maybe a bit strong, but its also useless. Seems like the PDWs are taking over a bit now and that's just not BATTLEFIELD.
I think some players like the new server options, but my team sticks to the DICE servers to play the ENTIRE mix of the maps, the way the game was designed. But if you want to play metro for 40 mintues with 750 + tickets fine. We also like the sounds, that was certainly an upgrade and I have noticed some more defintiion in the colors. I know there are other problems but these are the biggest I have seen after a week of game play. I am still trying too find a reliable rifle to use as an engineer or assualt.
* Played 007 in college and wasn't into games again until December when I got PS3 and Battlefield3 as a gift. Fell in love right away with the online play and team based strategy. I didnt like MW3 because of the lone wolf feel. Have been playing nonstop since then and I agree I am re-learning the mechanics of the game and maybe it was a bit too much unneeded. Hopefully developers are reading the posts and taking into account dedicated players and not the whiners and complainers.
Fix Servers
Give xbox update %^&%^&%^&% usas
I should be able to switch right back to the machine gun from the tv guided missile in case I miss what I was aiming at….. or have a detonating feature….I shouldn't have to wait until the missile completes its entire flight….
you dont want the patch bro.
Excited for the 360 patch!
A lot of that looks good. But not the MAV or Mortar 'fixes'. Killing people with the MAV is hard enough so it should be left in. It is not a problem like the USAS was. Also they should still be used as elevators, it is fun and also is not a big problem People acually liked the MAV as it was. Mortars should be able to be deployed in bases. They are still killable.
Those things were never a big problem and Dice please return those settings back to the original.
Your crazy, all people would do is hide and deploy MAV' go 20-0 it was retarded they wouldn't even spot people which is what is was put in for. Also people using the MAV as an elevator ruins the flow of the game and makes it difficult to eliminate camping snipers on top of 6 story buildings. as for the Mortar THANK GOD DICE changed that. now you have to ACTUALLY go on the battlefield and provide cover, ammo and get to an effective range with the Mortar.
True man I'm glad they patched that crap
Don't like this patch:
Don't see the need to alter the mortar deployment – sometimes the whole team gets pinned back in their base….
I didn't like getting hit by the MAV but quite enjoyed knocking people down with it once in a while, not all the time – win some lose some. All you need is a tactical light to disable this attack.
Getting rid of the MAV as an evelator is a massive mistake – some players showed initiative – that's all part of the game. I rememebr the first time I got shot from the highway in "tehran", all I could think was "I wish I'd though of that".
I think you listened to much to whingers and people who only want to play the game one way, ie. the way that suits them. Other people like to play other ways. What's wrong with that?
As far as I'm concerned you've hobbled the game.
On another point – buying unlocks? That's just another form of boosting …
I agree. I hope Dice sees this.
I agree totally the mortar should be allowed anywhere on map you cant hide anywhere where you cant be shot if people wanted to shoot you.
and i personally hate it when people use the MAV to get on top of buildings and up on bridges BUT i think it should still be allowed its just upto the other team to use thier intiative to find way of killing them which can be done easy enough.
agreed, too much people complaining because things aren't exactly the way they like it. If they didn't want smart/logical thinking like using MAVs as elevators, they should just go to C.O.D, i really hope DICE and EA see your comment.
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.
:S its stupid its makes the world more open to do whatever you like , if you remove this , YOu should add more accessible high building
It's not the developers fault (DICE) it is always the god damn publishers (EA) is everyone that naive?!
I'd like to add that the STINGER missile is now USELESS. The range is ridiculously short, a simple flyover and you cant lock on before out of range… the helo has to be hovering directly above your immediate area, IT IS NOT AN EFFECTIVE POINT DEFENSE WEAPON AS STATED the helos will just standoff at the outer margin and decimate you.. THANKS DICE. The Mujhadeen used stingers to great success in afghanistan, what is the point of stingers in this game now? (SERIOUS QUESTION)
I couldn't agree with the Colonel any more. I just left a Wake server where 2 choppers just camped overhead shredding. The Stinger couldn't consistently lock-on at any range, was easily knocked down, and just gave away your position. So much death from above…Guess it's a good time to go back to flight school!
The rpg is nerfed so bad I shoot people in the face it doesnt kill them. I shoot at a tank and it disables, totally unrealistic. Just because gamers complained of the Carl Gustav doesnt mean you should nerf an explosive weapon so weak that shooting infantry does hardly anything. Let the server admins control if they want explosives played, why ruin the game by nerfing the rpg into a weak weapon. boo hoo on you
at least u cant troll anymore hahahahahaha
When it was good it was so good. Why f**k with a good thing. (can't wait for Bad Company 3)
Now the Little bird and the Z11-w have a much longer range for air to ground missile its possible to spawn rape the Russians base on Noshahr cannals. I had some noob fly the Z11-w to the carrier where I promptly shot him out then spent the entire game popping up from behind the gantry killing all tanks and Jeeps. there was nothing they could do. with such drastic changes this should have been tested. I myself have gone from nearly always being in the top 3 every game to having my ass handed to me by every man and his dog. i understand the need for change but….. the helicopter vs jet issue is better but now has spawned a new kinda pilot who will kamikaze simply to get you out of the air…. why cant semi-guided rockets be used against other air targets? it was a rare hit as it was!
It's gonna take me a while to get back into the swing of things in all areas.
I can see the patch was well meant but not executed as well as lot of us were expecting.
I would like to know when there's going to be a patch for this patch? I like most of the changes (NOT all), but game seems to have some glitches, which wasn't there before.
Here's some glitches i found so far on PS3:
- sudden crashes (this is really annoying when i'm winning and suddenly CRASH)
- weapons menu doesn't work properly (can't choose certain weapon's accessories directly, have to change to that weapon first)
- some weapons disappeared after installing patch (at least for a while, now they seem right)
Have to play some more if I come across some more glitches I'll post 'em to forum.
Overall, there's a lot of new things to learn, mainly weapons' behaviour. Really satisfied on upgraded tank shell damage, a bit bummed for USAS. Well, you can't have them all!
Keep up the good work EA, and people, GAME ON!
This blows …You have to be F-ing kidding me …I do an update on my PS3 last night…and now I can no longer play Karkand WTF ..I use the codes that were given to me "My online pass" and I cant play the games. This is just pathetic! ..Now after reading what IAMLOCRATES says below it's apparent that I am just wasting my time!
Great job guys, you just helped uptick Activision Stock! Back to the best game for the PS3 ever made………… COD
You do relize that you can play on karkand you just can't play it on conquest as far as I know. But what is strange is that after I play rush on karkand after the game is over it turns into a conquest match and then back to rush and so on, what the hell???
I think the patch is well-balanced (as all BF models are) perhaps that is the problem. All these designers trying to BALANCE this weapon against that, STOP doing it please. Create a realistic engine with realistic ballistics and realistic damage for all weapons/vehicles/classes then let the public go have fun with it, that way no one can complain that this unfair, or that is unfair, because it would be REALISTIC! DICE put alot of effort into realistic environments and models, but failed miserably in realistic ballistics… So remember next time your playing BF3.. its not realistic ok, no need to complain about a game some programmers made up, thats what BF3 is, if you want total equality on the battlefield… join the army! But remember, you can't hop and skip to avoid real bullets…
As a former Marine, I get it. That's why I play BF3, cause it's not real. My issue is with the simple fact that this patch has complete turned the game upside down for a lot of players. Again, we all spent a lot of time practicing and earning our ranks, with this patch, it has unearth all of that work. That is an issue.
DICE/EA, you guys have made this game completely UN-ENJOYABLE. Gameplay is terrible. Weapons damage is completely wack. Suppression is ridiculously heavy, to the point where you're completely blind from a sniper longshot. M4A1 should be one the most stable carbine platforms out there and it's completely getting dominated by AK's? How's that even possible? I understand the need to limit the frag rounds on the USAS12, but was it necessary to completely goatF*c* all the other weapons? I agree totally with most of fellow brethren on all the issues they're encountering. I am shedding to you some insight as to the level of anger we are dealing with.
You guys have utterly alienated the dedicated players who spent hours upon hours honing their skills so they can actually enter a game and be competent. Now you have blown all that work out the window. Now some noob can roll in, buy unlocks and start raging, just cause they don't have to re-learn all the weapons. This is by far one of the worst patches I have EVER encountered. How the hell did you make a patch and somehow figure that all these sudden changes would make the game more enjoyable? Changing the enviroment is one thing, but changing the basis of the game, throws everything into a quagmire. You have definitely need to hold a project manager meeting with all your producers and un-ass this mess.
I have discussed these issues with many of my online friends, and they,(like myself, bought this game and played it religiously, on opening day), are serious about taking this game and making it an afterthought. As in being the coaster for my beer. I would say that many PS3 players are thinking the same.
Think about all the comments made so far… Do you think your customer base is happy?
Yes, I play almost everyday since launch, after this undate, playing and figuring out for 5 hours, it makes me not wanting to load this game again! This is a sad day for BF3 gamers and you dice developer gamers, have fun with the recoil shit!
I couldn't agree more with IAMLOCRATES. I'm a late comer to BF3, but have played the game religiously up until this patch and it was all for nothing. Thanks for completely ruining my BF3 experience.
Personally, I don't like the patch. They tried to nerf alot of weapons that did not needed to be fixed. They also added more recoil to the weapons as if it wasnt hard enough to shoot on console. I have also found that it constantly freezes, and the games seem to be one-sided only on many servers since the patch release.
new update yeahhhhhhh yeahhhhhh……… WTF are you doing you MW copycompany ive payed 60Euros and your givving me 1 update of 5 gb and another of 2gb and this one of 1.6gb in 1 month il be filling 1tb of memory …..etc
Going to real bussines there is a aiming bug with all weapons please fix il give you 2 days to fix it if not 1000.000 users yill giveaway their game and buy porno for god sake its supposed to be an fixing bug update but the only thing is doing is maxing the game mor laggy and ugly
even tho i do not retract my previous statement, after have played bf3 further, thank you dice. thank you for turning bf3 into MW. u assholes. 40,000 point score wtf is goin on and what were u thinking? please change it back plllleeeeaaaasssse.
Any word on the XBOX release date? Sick of all the Wusas players, and mav-mounting cheaters.
i have lost Back to Karkand since downloading the recent patch. I have the limited edition version of the game which had access to Karkand but now expected to pay for it??
no not even man. just redownload it.
Dude same for me…. WTF? do you know anything else about this …Did they get back to you?
so your telling me that a engineer can lay down 6 AT mines and when he dies they will stay there but when i place 2 claymores and i die the disappear how is that balanced PLEASE DICE change that back thats all i ask
Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters —- Good!!
Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to the front and side armor of other main battle tanks. Primarily this means 1 less shot to the front, and very good hits to the side can result in a 1 hit to disable.– about time!!!
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator — ABOUT TIME!!
The M224 Mortar can no longer be deployed in an area that is out of combat for another team like a home base or other protected spawn— my biggest issue thanks!!
I play the ps3 and the last patch ruined the game pretty much for me. You all messed with heat sinkers for jets and other air vehicles in which they blow up too early before they hit the vehicle, no need for fancy flying or anti lock/heat sinker precautions, all you have to do is fly straight and listen the the missile blow up behind you. Stinger missiles were fine before u should have left them alone. Now i have to wait for a jet to strafe me before i can even start to acquire a lock on. EXTEND THE RANGE PLEASE (at least a little more than it is). I give you all props though for fixing the russian attack heli (it used to turn like a brick). You fixed the well known noob guns such as the famas and US-SAS. You changed the outline of the lobby's and such and u no longer spawn on top of vehicles. <Great. You fixed the MAV glitch which would've been nice to keep, killing people with it was fair because it was hard to do, MAV's ability as an elevator was great for sniping, now i don't entirely know what to do with my sniper class…. But really u guys made some great changes in the last patch but some bad ones too.
Dear DICE
i have a GLITCH after i downoad patch 1.04 at PS3.when i play the Multiplayer i have some bad GLITCH and some of my friend is got the same thing. it happen in every server and i use the same internet while i play the MP.it only happen when the ORANGE TRIANGLE at right top of screen show up
this is the bug see the video
sorry for the bad quality video,in that video i use a shotgan 870MCS, but when i use a M98B sniper it happen again i kill 11 guys at once using that bug sniper, without reload it's just like a machine gun sniper….. it's not fair…. the guy i kill he send me a message "What the Hell??…..how u do that??" i hope DICE or EA or FROSTBITE can fix this GLITCH A.S.A.P
ohhh…..and one thing i hope the server is back to DICE or EA owner
it's sucks…. when i play the other guy server the ticket is 1500 Oh My God
thank you for your time and sorry for my Bad english
estoy contigo desde el update todo se daño ya no lo mismo !!!!! es mejor que lo areglen como estaba antes … y yo le escribo en español pq hay muchos latinos en esto de los juegos de pc,ps3,xbox ..saludo
this is the bug….see the video
Dear DICE
i have a GLITCH after i downoad patch 1.04 at PS3.when i play the Multiplayer i have some bad GLITCH and some of my friend is got the same thing. it happen in every server and i use the same internet while i play the MP.it only happen when the ORANGE TRIANGLE at right top of screen show up
this is the bug see the video
sorry for the bad quality video,in that video i use a shotgan 870MCS, but when i use a M98B sniper it happen again i kill 11 guys at once using that bug sniper, without reload it's just like a machine gun sniper….. it's not fair…. the guy i kill he send me a message "What the Hell??…..how u do that??" i hope DICE or EA or FROSTBITE can fix this GLITCH A.S.A.P
ohhh…..and one thing i hope the server is back to DICE or EA owner
it's sucks…. when i play the other guy server the ticket is 1500 Oh My God
thank you for your time and sorry for my Bad english
I like the weapons as they were before, after the patch i didn't feel like playing it any more. :( You guys changed toooooo mucchhhh of the game..should of left it original and only weaken the weapons that are being abused! Sad!
spoiled the aek 971 please check back as it was before
My biggest problem, (as an xbox 360 player) is the new servers. First off, thanks for the warning DICE. You guys gave us no warning as to the server changes. All of my friends and myself play ONLY hardcore and the new server setup completely screws us. Myself and a few others have considered actually getting rid of the game for this reason. You are forcing us to play game types that we do NOT want to play, I.E. If we pick a rush server we have no choice but to play conquest and cant play rush on a consistant basis. So I say keep the servers you have now but bring back the old style servers for gamers like me and the others that have complained about this.
I agree with the servers being junk now
My biggest gripe…
"-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares."
If anyone can explain…please do.
unfortunately i remember well the way over the years DICE has consistently favored complaints from weak players, and rather than making the game worth playing beat the horse to death with updates that did nothing but ruin the game, then continue to beat it until their next title hit shelves and switch to ruining the new game.
annoyed by the fact that flares will now distract laser guided missiles, seeing as how they really don't. maybe rather than nerfing to make it easier for pilots to dominate the game, put the power in the infantry's favor and let us continue to make the soflam + javelin the savior in cases of constant base raping from aircraft.
Agree 100 percent!
Thanks for fixing allot of issues I had with this game.There are allot of people that just look for ways to exploit games and when it came to Bf3 there were many to say the least.Thanks for keeping your game from becoming USAS Fammas Ill fly into you cuz I cant shoot you down game.Appreciate it.
Finally some good changes
Sweet can't play on regular dice servers if you join quick match have to play on some douches all the time. This is stupid!
Why wasn't there a fix for joining as a squad? Sick of trying to join with friends and we all end up on different teams squads and what not.
Or did I miss it in the notes?
I agree, this is total BS that we buy this game to play with friends and be on the same squad and we can't. honestly i don't even care about all these updates. just fix this!!!!
I bet the reason they haven't addressed that problem yet is because you can just make a squad once you get in-game. As far a bugs its not that big of one compared to the MAV riding, or TV missile suicide glitch, and the other tweaks for game balancing. Ya, it's inconvenient but it's not game breaking. I for one can deal with it for a little while longer.
You can't switch teams if the other team is full though which is the case a lot of times for me.
Think about it, if you join a room that is already even with a 4 member squad, why would they put you all one one side and make it lopsided? That would be retarded. Rather it will keep it even. If you have 4 people and there are 19/20 people in the room already, of course 1 team is going to be full so you just wait for a quiter or two to quit. There are many COD players who think about stats and quit when losing.
Now, when you join a room and all or 3 get on one team and are on different squads, it's ANNOYING yes, but nothing worth really whining about. The first thing I do is make a new squad with my friends and we join the same team/squad when we can.
All the hate over the MAV elevator glitch cracks me up, I abused the shit out of the MAV riding, and I'm glad it's getting fixed. That glitch allowed for too much game breaking bullshit to happen, like hiding inside buildings you shouldn't be in and getting outside of the map. Heck it's almost as bad as the old tank turret spinning wall glitch in BF2, and it's definitely as bad as the UAV riding in bad co. 2′s beta.
There have been some great and overdue fixes to what is still a fantastic game, but there have also been some unnecessary and unrealistic changes!!
The Igla/Stinger are still fairly inneffective and sometimes don't lock on at close range – unrealsitic!
The AA guns doing reduced damage to infantry – unrealsitic!
The MAV not being used as an elevator! Anyone who tried to do this will know it is quite skill to get to otherwise unreachable places, but just because you are unreachable, it doesn't make you invincible!
MAV being destroyed when it hits infantry/vehicle – good fix :-)
Nerfing down the Frag rounds – good fix :-)
Spotting function doesn't work most of the time – server/internet or game problem??
Claymores disappearing on death – unrealistic! How would they disappear in real life?? You can only place 2 at any one time, so why remove them when you die??
Only 6 mines by one player – good fix :-)
C4 disappearing on death – again unrealistic and wouldn't happen in real life!
More vulnerable tanks – slightly unrealistic, so will need a tactical change by the tank users, but not a problem in my opinion!
Mortars are still under-powered. Again, unrealistic as these are very effective anti-infantry weapons in real life.
More dominant helicopters – again unrealistic and a problem that would be resolved by making the Igla/Stinger more realistic. On this point, you can ONLY choose to carry the Igla/Stinger OR RPG/SMAW OR the Javelin, which means a deliberate tactical choice by the engineer!
Weapon attachments like the foregrip now seem to be inneffective and coupled with adding more recoil and weapon movement seems to penalise the user!
Buying unlocks make the whole point of calling them "unlocks" a contradiction in terms! This is purely to make money and I'm fairly sure that EA games/DICE aren't even close to being bankrupt! It completely undermines the users who have spent hours improving their skills to achieve these unlocks, when you can just buy the weapon. Where is the reward for spending all those hours achieving the unlock??
These are just the few things that I have identified PERSONALLY and I'm sure that there is more good and more bad yet to experience.
Your logic has flaws. When you die, yes c4 doesnt disappear but then again where did the detonator go. More dominant helicopters as unrealistic… In real life a cobras main gun reaches out to 2km. The hellfire missiles it can carry go out to 8000m (close to 5 miles) and have a kill radius of up to 50m (that's far). On top of that, the rocket pods are actually effective against infantry and can even be flechette rounds covered with an anti blood clot chemical that makes anyone that gets nicked by it bleed out. Also…in real life you don't respawn after death, you cant run forever, carrying 7 igla/stingers is near impossible, a box with a + on it doesn't save you from a bullet wound, an ammo box doesn't regenerate, vehicles don't respawn etc. This game isn't realistic even in hardcore. Maybe the graphics look realistic but the mechanics are far from it.
I'm trolling you because half of your ideas were realistic and half weren't. Also understand what your talking about.
I am one of the noobs you hardcore guys all hate. I had never even heard of Battlefield until a few months ago when my good friend recommended it. I was a COD fan. I will never go back to COD again. BF3 is the best game i have ever played. Im a 12 colonel now.
The only bad thing about it is the self rightous hardcore fanboys that play it. You all were noobs once too and the learning curve for BF3 is much higher than COD. The first week was hell. You go from 30-5 COD kills to 1-9 kills in BF3, its very fustrating. It was the recon that kept me interested. I could sit back a little, and it taught me all about being more tactical with my other classes with spotting and such. I remember the first guy that got me from on top that freeway in Tehran. I thought it was very creative recon play. I had to learn MAV riding. I would use it on a particular building to defend my team from snipers on the freeway and on the hilltop. My best round was from that building. 17-1. One suicide. 16 headshots and 9000+ points.
The MAV riding removal bugs me because why should you hardcore fanboys get to dictate how my $60 is best spent. It my game i should get to play how I want. If there is no tactical advantage to MAV riding, why all the fuss. If some guy wants to be a sitting duck on a tower, let him. Last guy i saw on the tower in Caspian, i got a 799 meter headshot on the idiot.
One of the things i like most about BF3 is the freedom to have your own strategy, to me its a shame our creativity is being limited by a bunch of self rightous whiners. If you want everyone to do everything the same way, move to North Korea. Im sure the commies would love one more confirmist
MAV riding could take a sniper to a location that is impossible for a non-sniper to get to. That is broken. Needing friendly snipers to watch for people exploiting a bug is the wrong solution. No, you climb ladders on the buildings we're all allowed to go up on.
Well said William :-) I have also posted a comment about the MAV riding. It IS a skill and you often suicide yourself trying to reach those "unreachable" places. However, just because you have reached those places still doesn't make you invincible against another sniper. This is obviously a patch from a EA/DICE developer who keeps getting slotted by cunning or ingenious recon players! The game is about using tactics to gain a tactical advantage and this aspect has now unnecessarily been removed :-(
i loved MAV riding too, i uderstad when u say it was a creative play style… sad other dont get that, i will miss those snipers vs snipers battles -_- (karkand hotel's rof vs gateway hangar's rof) for example.
and by the way my best Teheran Highway score was 87-3, 2 suicides and who knows how someone killed me with mortar. You may think i use to go up on the Highway but no, i used to get on top of a lamp (dont know how to say it right) and the glare of the lights make it almost imposible for other to see u up there, damn, i really didn't enjoy killing that much, by the way it was 500 tikets server, i just wanted someone on the other team to realize where i was, but only happened a few tiimes 3 maybe 4, and i killed like 4000 up there, that only tells me there are a lot of guys not creative or smart enough.
Sorry for bad english, not my native language :) a lets hope they gave the recon something similar to the mav, or specific respawn points for each clase, i mean thats what snipers do right, always trying to get the best spot.
Oh, and i just want to say this: giving shotguns to the recon class is the stupidest thing i have ever seen in a videogame, come on!!!!
-Reduced the damage AA guns (both mobile and stationary) do to infantry.
WHY??? Its a 25mm 5 barreled Gatling gun….. It should kill infantry in 2 rounds
Or one round. Very silly "fix."
All the kids crying about xbox not getting the patch first, stfu. if you want everything first for your console go play the crap COD games.
woooord up.
Sweet, stayed up all night!
So ps3 got release. I guess I miss the part when Xbox patch is going to be release. Does anybody know when?
I find this somewhat humors two days later and only ps3 has the patch. Good one DICE way to keep a promise.
Finally a list….
I seen with playing that this patch has some good stuff, but Dice wtf you fucked up… It was cool to play even if usas12 and famas was too much strong, but now i swear you fucked up… Tank is now made with paper, tunguska launch paper bullet, famas is as good as a shotgun in long range, mortar is impossible to place, every one now playing with aek and those who playing with usas still fuck our game, noob player can play with object that real player can have with playing 200 hard hour (to make you rich(tsss what a fucked up idea)), base raper will never be so fucker with your fucking low damage aa… And so much more fucked up thing you do.
It was a fresh war fps game, never egalized, but now you make it like every noob game for kid.
OMG YOU BUNCH OF PUSSIES. the game has not been changed that much for gods sake! who gives a shit! they improved all the mother funkin' guns for the most part at totally balanced it for the most part. yeah i have my complaints but its not that bad! there are patches to every game all the time and will always be. im still getting top player or near top player every time and not because of the changes. its because i kick ass! every one has their bad days but this is affecting everyone mentally way too much. NOW EVERYONE SAC UP AND FIND THEIR WABOS AND STFU! ya bunch of haters.
OMG YOU BUNCH OF PUSSIES. the game has not been changed that much for gods sake! who gives a shit! they improved all the mother funkin' gun for the most part at totally balanced it for the most part. yeah i have my complaints but its not that bad! there are patches to every game all the time and will always be. im still getting top player or near top player every time and not because of the changes. its because i kick ass! every one has their bad days but this is affecting everyone mentally way too much. NOW EVERYONE SAC UP AND FIND THEIR WABOS AND STFU! ya bunch of haters.
The biggest thing that bothers me about the game is that you cant get into a initial game with your squad mates. I understand balancing the teams but we never had that problem in bfbc 2. We always end up having to switch teams if we can.
Great thing to see these updates, though I never really encountered that much game-breaking bugs, overpowered weapons or glitches. The only thing that used to, and still bugs me, is getting stuck in the geometry. Wanting to run away, but somehow not being able to because there's an obstacle the height of a brick blocking me.
The single best and worst fix is that you can now choose wether you want to play Conquest or Conquest Assault. Well done. The thing is, I love the idea because I only like Conquest, but 3 out of the 4 B2K levels aren't even present in normal Conquest mode since the update.
Please fix this DICE. I paid for it.
Havent got the chance to check yet …. but before when you do a quick scope on any sniper rifle and fire then zoomout and switch to the pistol i noticed that the firing hammer dissappears ( only on guns that have hammers ex: M9, M1911, MP443, REX, 44 maagnum)Hopefully it was fixed.
Ok everyone that is complaining I say to bad to because I'm happy with most of these. The game just came out give it time seriously they plenty of time to change the game. Dice I like how you changed the boundary on the mini map to orange it easier to see especially for newbies. Thanks you DICE!
Glad the mav can't be used a a weapon any more, well only once,thought the mav cheaters were a good target especially on TH Deathmatch.Good target practice.They haven't fixed jealous players putting C4 on jets to blow up fellow team members at the beginning of games , which somebody did on me.
you need to download the dlc again :)
How do you get the famas? it is no longer available on ps3
It's an assignment
assignments tab is grayed out
I know its an assignment but its currently grayed out but I've seen people playing with it
Did you complete you 10 heals and 10 revives using the assault kit?
My assignments still show completed, but the weapons I earned from them are no longer available.I can't replay the assignments either. My favorite guns just disappeared
You have to complete the Assignment before you can use it… if its greyed out its because you havent done the stuff to complete it.
RPG do less splash damage? Didn't know they did any in the first place except against me lol.
Mav as elevators really didn't hurt anyone. I hope in some expansion they make it where snipers can get on rooks and such to make them more useful.
They should have just gotten rid of the frag rounds period stupidest thing in the world.
Oh well some good things and some bad things.
This is truly the most epic and amazing patch I've ever heard of. Can't wait for it to hit 360.
The only people mad at this forum are MAV elevator snipers and USAS d-bags lol….Great job Dice for weeding out BF3 scrubs from the game!
lawl,yes. they are doing the game a favor. :D XD
All they did was make sniping less useable the elevator didn't hurt anyone, but made sniping more fun
good job! maybe now these F!ing Newbs will stop this BS. Its time to play like real solders. i do agree, some sucks, but for you MAV As*holes! F! U! NOW!! Thanks EA.
What's a real soldier? – It's someone who pilots a drone or steps on an IED. Bring back the MAVs.
Well, it definitely dosen't feel the same. I understand the issues with the USAS12 being frusterating to some of the gamers I get that, but what I don't like is that they took away the intermission before the commencing of the game, I think DICE/EA should have atleast kept that. Also the map fixes aren't great at all I feel as if DICE/EA implies that the community is so retarded that they require a big old fucking A marker on the map, I think it was really easy to read the maps prior, and it feels as if they've slowed down the fire rate on the LAV's. I hated being caught out by those things they'd absolutely slaughter now it feels as if they're slowed down and doing less damage. As far as air combat goes don't like it either, the rate of the laser lock on system rapes the aircraft. I don't find this game as attractive anymore, it's like having that wife you've had for 18 years she's gotten shittier with change, please return the game to the patch prior, the patch that made me fall in love with this game it made everything feel so fucking balanced *Besides the USAS* but so what? A challenge never hurt anybody.
F U C K you EA/DICE I am so sick of your shit! That's all I have to say, I'm done dealing with your shit!
"-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%." WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF ????????????????????? ARE YOU ALL F******* CRAZY???????????????
"-Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG, SMAW, and 40mm grenade projectiles against infantry." EVEN MORE? THE ROCKETS ARE MADE OF RUBBER?
is that a bad thing?in my opinion nothing is worse than sniping at long range and then get killed by a RPG that landed 40ft away from you or being 15ft from a jeep, rpg hits it you die, then jeep drives away.
"-The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed."
"-Claymores can now detonate from vehicles and can be used to disable jeeps or kill the passengers in light jeeps. " LOVED thanks!!!!
"-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator." Dammit !
Here's some real talk for all you bitching about this amazing update.
1. The USAS was so over powered it became frustrating to play against. Little skill was needed to suppress enemies, and even less skill to actually kill one. An automatic shotgun is crazy, but one that can kill you in a single shot at medium range is way over powered.
2. The MAV was never meant to be used as an elevator. As a sniper I keep my distance and play with tact at long to medium ranges. Using the MAV to go on top of the highest building and sitting there all game is not sniping, it's camping like a bitch. Pulling out your pistol on the fool who thinks he can sneak up on you is pimp.
3. The weapons have a huge increase in balance across the board. Certain weapons were too accurate or too powerful were nerfed while the others that absolutely no one used were pumped up. It's nice to see a switch in weapon tendicies, and with it a switch in tactics.
4. No shit you can't mortar inside your own spawn. I was getting real tired of the one douchebag who hid in his spawn so he could launch mortars into the first flag all game. How is that cool or fun. Now if you launch mortars I'm coming after your ass!
5. You plant C4, you die; and you're pissed you can't detonate it when you respawn? Enough said
6. Stingers are meant for close range ground to air defense, not long range cover the whole sky defense. Huge improvement there. And yes helicopters are incredibly powerful vehicles for a reason!
BF3 is for the hardcore gamers who understand that tactics and battle mechanics are incredibly more important than taking advantage of unintended over powered weapons and elevators. BF3 comes through in the clutch with this update!
but what about traitors??? they must be reported and expelled frm the servers !!!
Honestly I love the patch. The only problem is how things are run on private servers. Rules are set.. no problem, even following rules you can be kicked just because of your place on scoreboard or you killed the admin too many times lol. Private serves are fun, the custom tweaks are awesome. But I think I would rather play if dice had its own custom servers. The kick/ban thing seems that it may get out of hand.
I hope everyone thats bitching and crying about the new update does quit playing bf3 as threatened, they are the exact group that was making the previous iteration nearly unenjoyable on multiplayer. If you people cant stand more realism in your gaming, COD is still recruiting…good riddance. Huge props for making most of the tweaks that should have been there from jumpstreet.
Good one! The play will be much better if the cry-babies go away to their COD fantasy world.
Awesome i like this!
WOW some of the stuff here is nutty may make alot of people leave the game.
Me not like
-The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.
-C4 will no longer be detonable after a player respawns, if the player is revived within 5 seconds he can still detonate his C4.
This update is some bullshit, DICE BAD FUCKING MOVE.Dont do this to the game and if not il will come and fuck you girls In your MOTHER Fucking Ass BITCH!!!!
well, if you don't like realism, play something else. have you ever seen a Micro Air Veichle? You can't use them as an elevator in real life either, so why should you be able to do it ingame? and you can't detonate C4 when you are dead either. What they should have done to put more realism into it, is that someone else should be able to pick up your detonator, and blow it up for you after you die.
you are correct dude. enough said
Agreed, a good idea about the C4. The MAV has caused much amusement to all but it was never intended as a personal jetpack, get over it kids. Most of these tweaks looks completely welcome, and some are just getting the game back to the glory days of how some things worked in BF2. Can't wait for horns back in the jeeps!
you're preaching to the quire. i will gladly forego the after death c4 kills to get more realistic play. now for dice to read and understand the benefits of "free boost" on a modern suppressor.
Seriously are you for real? You can't go around threatening people like that if something isn't to your liking. Cirtainly if it's to do with an update on a computer game. That aside it makes no sense anyway because you are basically saying 'don't update the game cause if you don't I'll bum you'. Idiot
i think he forgot the anti-psychotics today.
Seriously are you for real? You can't go around threatening people like that if something isn't to your liking. Cirtainly if it's to do with an update on a computer game. That aside it makes no sense anyway because you are basically saying 'don't update the game cause if you don't I'll bum you'. Idiot
Why don't you learn to read, the reasons for the changes are pretty obvious to anyone with an IQ above a tree frog, or better yet go play COD….
Ah, so your one of those douche who likes to cheat his way to victory by exploiting things. So, because you actually might have to do work to WIN after this patch, your bitching? lol. gg. people like you who needs to cheat and exploit the game shouldn't even play.
and dude, your stat sucks man. almost every game u lost, and those that you won, you never even broke the double digit. guess you couldn't cheat in those rounds to win. lol.
anyways, i'm going to stop harping on you kid, but before i go, seriously grow up and play the game the right way. lol. it isnt that hard honestly!
My PS3 locks up while reloading the "Back to Karkland" maps. Is there a fix?
I had the same problem for a few after it was released, then 2 days ago it worked and the new update from yesterday worked as well. Not that it makes a difference, but I jut let it download. I didn't switch it to "DOWNLOAD IN BACKGROUND". I just sat there and waited
What's "Back to Karkland"? – I've never heard of it..
I agree with you 100%
EA……….I REQUEST YOU TO reinstate the old update……………..otherwise me and my team mate will leave this game forever…………because you just remove the charm of the game by this new update……………………………………………… sorry to say…………..but you guys made BF3 like cartonish……………….very easy to kill some one….like if some one is playing 1990 COUNTERSTRIKE…………..you took power from USAS & MK3A1 and give more fire power to normal guns and even HIP accuracy is very bad now………………..u have to fire few bullets and then stop and then fire again………………………….what you have with this game………………i am really disappointed with new look……………….i will try this game once more today if not then i will say GOODBYE TO bf3 for ever………
Lol so what you're saying is, since they nerfed the USAS (I'm almost certain by the way you're talking, they're equipped with frag rounds) forcing you to actually use a gun that isn't overpowered and that requires you to aim, you and your 'teammate' will leave? Please do, go back to COD
seroiusly…………………………..game is not same any more……………forget about USAS and frag rounds……………………..u can kill easily and you can be killed more easily………………….i don't know but lot of peoples are complaining while playing………………..check sniper zoom……………… its not like before…………….i played it yesterday……….i played it well………………….frankly they made the game more easy the charm of originality that was before that we used too is no more…………second they introduced buying unlock for weapons so any beginner can buy the unlocks and start playing so what is the point being experienced and beginner…………
What you a also saying is that you now have to fire in short bursts to be accurate rather than just open up on full automatic? This seems like something you would need to do with a real gun as well. So the developers just made it so some skill Is required rather than running around with a fully automatic shotgun that allows near one hit kills and ruins the game for those who would like to play fairly.
Not that EA cares or reads these comments, but I have to say I'm glad they instituted the patch. I stopped playing because of the amount of people who used the USAS and I will be coming back to the game again now that things are more balanced.
If this new update was the old update, and the old update the new one, you would've whined as well. You just can't handle the change, man. To DICE: Keep up the good work guys!
I dont think that ea cares about 5-10 guys who hate this update.. Becouse there is even milloin more who support the update
there are millions who havent complained and hundreds that have and u change everything i didnt think there were that many faults with the game and ive been playing for 200 hours or more some are good others realy bad.the choppers now rule the sky rather than planes still no after burner on rush modes.people that snipe from cliffs still float in the air from 800m or further because of see through cliffs.lmgs still take 40 rounds to kill evev from close range.think you will lose alot of players through these changes starting to get like that crap cod should have tweaked a few not everything
Is this for the PS3 to
And now everyone is using the SCAR-H. Come on people, im not complaining, just saying that it sucks being in team full of engineers and recon campers.
TY DICE, now I might actually come back and play this broken game again.
Looking forward to all the changes, and all these cry-babies that bitch about the changes can just give it a rest.
Nothing was right with this BF game from the start.
I've played ALL BF games including expansions on PC before and this BF3 has by far been the worst of all of them BC2 included.
Nothing was right in gun shooting or anything.
I have logged thousands of hours of BF2/2142/BC2.
This game I have 93hours and gave up in less than a month.
So hopefully this will actually iron out some of the BS bugs and handling of guns etc.
Who is a cry-baby here? The BF3 game is far the best shootergame yet to see. So I cant follow your complains about the gun/rifle issues. The only thing there was a problem, was the semi or full automatic shotguns with frag rounds.
Gageman44 is right!!!! I want my money back, it is not the game I bought and I think we should be entitled to our money back!
Yes, this is not the game i played at my buddies house that i just had to have. My 60 bucks went down the drain and i also believe we should be entitled to our money back.
Who the f$&@ thought that I wanted to have a sever that changes ever other match, I have 240 plus hours on this game and loved it now this sh$& congrates you just Fu@$ed over all ur hardcore followers .. U just lost my vote
Just a bunch of newbies using USAS-12 against an entire team without it, can win a round at Operation Metro.
You only have to point at the enemy and fire, explotion will kill anyone near.
Dude you are so right. That combo is way OP. Could it be people will actually have to aim? I wonder how different it will be. I stopped playing for a little while cause everyone and their mother is using that combo now.
Crybabies calling snipers noobs! Wake up wimps, that is a battlefield. There should be snipers at a distance. Man what little wimps crying when they get killed by someone not running around like black ops. Thanks for trashing the best game ever! All because moderen warfare people wanted another game!
The worst fix ever is the mortar. Modern warfare girls were mad when blown up by one but that is how a battlefield is. Mortars are used behind your line not out in the middle of gunfire. Battlefield sucks now. Just because of some cry babies. Oh and not to mention you made it where a chopper runs the battlefield. Made tanks worthless. Now we can all wait for a chopper while modern warfare girls capture all the flags. GGGGAAAAAYYYY.
Dice wtf! there were only a few changes to the weapons that were necessary but you decided to change just about every gun. You messed up. The game was great before minus a few glitches but the fact that you became so concerned to make everyone happy you changed the entire game, which was for the worse. There were already problems with the LMGs ( like not hitting people from close range while the sighting is directly on top of the target, which results in 40 bullets being shot at a non moving target with the red dot aimed directly on the torso)**venting) and now the foregrip is essentially useless for them making the LMGs absolutely garbage. This was a pointless tweak that had no business being part of this patch along with many other tweaks. There should've been only a few tweaks to the game; in which you would then take more comments and suggestions about the patch/s to maybe make more tweaks if necessary, to continually improve the game over a period of time, allowing people to adapt. But this drastic change, like this, is only going to cause more people to become upset and stop playing your game. All i see in this patch is a company that won't stick by its product but rather a company to worried about losing money, so it tries to please everyone. Dice you've disappointed me and i expect much more from a game that wishes to rival itself with CoD. You don't see CoD completely changing their gameplay. . . .
i agree theyve changed to much and it dosent seem to be the same game it was.you should have a choice for people weather they wanted to install the update and people who didnt.want the old update back and the game it once was
i think some of the changes are good but a few are realy bad.for instance snipeing has be come a joke with the size of the white blob you get when fireing a bullet you cant tell where it lands anymore and it moves slower u should change that back to how it was.and the other is stingers and ingla should be changed back to the distance the could lock had no problem as a pilot escapeing them made it more challenging
Detailed doesnt really look that better than Hybrid. That would be sick if it was a live feed from a satellite or some kind of device.
point is…people play for hours learn the game find it has endless options and then..MAJOR CHANGE..time to relearn..NO….you are alienating your players…just because people complained?? Many MORE complainers now…go to the used game store..they will be stocking BF3 in the coming weeks and that means less Close QTRs sales and there is a 4 less BF4 sales..because folks don't like to be screwed with.
Stop complaining about improvements. I'm glad they make changes like this…it makes people like you go back to COD
I definitely welcome the majority of these changes although there should be some fixes for spawn beacons. On maps in certain gametypes that normally spawn you with a parachute especially. If the map doesn't have aerial vehicles in a particular gametype then you should spawn directly on the beacon. I'm also with most of the people upset with the server changes. I like the servers that mix things up when I'm in the mood for it…but if I filter my search by a particular gametype (rush) then I should get servers that don't include other gametypes popping up 2 games down the road when I'm not in the mood for them (conquest).
Or even just smaller outdoor open maps in gametypes with a smaller combat area. It just seems so annoying to spawn in the air in a lot of instances.
i feel that if your gonna take away the mav as an elevator then there should be ways to get high for a sniper, especially in Karkand. No real sniper sits low.
the game was good didn need to be changed yaw messed it up big time an the new servers suck switchin from diffrent games when u just want to play just one an just cause some people cry about crap don't mean u got to change it . its not our fault their not that good at this game , yaw changed it tryin to make them happy an you prob, did but in the process you lost alot of your biggest fans….. good job hope your proud of yourselves
well, it seem that my copy of BF3 is up for sale…. was good while it lasted.
So you're mad because you can no longer target vehicles that have below radar equipped? Enjoy COD.
Stupid SA-18 IGLA does not work!
i hope the mini map types is for console
you guys were fine with the dedicated hardcore conquest, rush , and tdm/sdm servers. i have no idea why things got changed with the update before this one and now you want us to pay for a good server. i do want the consoles to be setup like pc as far as servers go though, but really. quit listening to the call of duty crowd they have no business giving input on this game this game should never be like call of duty, they should try to copy bf3. first of all the frag shotgun being weakened was the best thing too happen to this game, people that exploit parts of this game to get kills should not be listened to in this blog. but the frag rounds from a launcher/underbarrel should not have been weekend you can shoot someone directly in the back and not kill them. also the whole no .50 caliber sniper rifle is just fine their should be no one shot kills from hits to the chest. but overall you guys need to worry bout the veterans these people that stat pad and want the game to be some thing different than a straight-up, no glamour, realistic first person shooter should have no opinion here.
First off, you people are seriously funny! The amount of comments bashing the PC and Console players is crazy! And both of your arguments have issues. PC- Because DICE and EA need $$$ to survive and keep adding to this game, they need to show love to anybody who offers to pay for faster DLC. Consoles- You obviously have no idea what the modern PC is used for. There are literally thousands of uses for a powerful PC. Gaming is just ONE little piece of it. What are consoles used for? Gaming only. Wait, no you guys just got ESPN too. Okay so you are (finally) getting things that PC has had since the beginning of the internet. And I read a comment about PC players using a gamepad? ARE YOU HIGH?!?!?! Nobody in their right mind would use that piece of crap after using a mouse and keyboard. NOBODY. You people need to see the argument from both sides before you start whining. Does it suck PC gets it later? Yes. Will we survive? Yeah. Both of you: get over it.
maybe..but if you screw your customers…they don't come back…I for 1 will not. Bad Business to make the mass majority of your customers UNHAPPY>>
Want to know why console is better?
It's because i am sitting on my couch with friends and playing on big TV.
Not trying to beat a dead dog but the players that camp on top of the team respond point if noyhing can be done about it thats just soooo unsportsman like yea that sounded gay but camping like that is also……………………………………….
just keep the USAS 12 WITH 12G FRAGS THE WEAKEST GUN OR JUST TAKE IT out that is one of the only good parts of the update damn noobs with their NOOB cannons
Is there some sort of commo-rose for consoles? I keep hearing people doing things like asking if people need repairs or healing, things you can only do using the commo-rose, so… Oh, and I'm on Xbox, in case that affects the answer.
There is no and I doubt will be commo rose on consoles. Instead on console you point at what you want to do and press "back" or "select". So, to spot people, point at them and press back. Need a ride, point at friendly vehicle and press back and you'll call for a ride. Need health or ammo, point at a friendly medic or support and hit back, and you'll call for health or ammo. I think it works a lot better for controllers than commo rose, however, they could probably add a special wheel style one for consoles, sorta like the weapon selector in Mass Effect for when you need something but arnt in line of sight.
let me tell you something dice i really love battlefield .but you just ruined my fun with this update it sucks badly you guys didn't fix anything you just made it worse. im not trying to criticize battlefield i love it just please please please!!!!!! FIX THE UPDATE PUT THE OLD VERSION OF BATTLEFIELD back. like tons of people probably would agree with me come on just read all the other comments they're all similar in one way they all don't like the update.
Wut da hell, man??? I've been dying by that USAS for the past 3 months…Now, I finally unlocked it yesterday and can't use it anymore…wut da hell??? I was luking forward to sum payback. Do like da fact dat claymores can kill/damage ppl in jeeps.
WTH! They change the fact I can't detonate the C4 I planted if I die and respawn, but they don't fix the glitch that gives me unlimited C4 without the ability to detonate it? So lame!
i would like to congratulate the guys at DICE for totally ruining battlefield 3 with the new updates , i agree certain weapons needed tweeking to reduce damage but the overall reduction what has been implamented over all the weapons is a joke !
To all of the noobs using the noob cannon (USAS-12 w/Frag rounds) Good riddance! So tired of you underskilled players… And for the MAV elevator, its about time you snipers join the actual playing area, quit being cowards, your pathetic… Oh a plastic battery operated toy fitted with a camera can't land on my legs and kill me anymore??? Thank god! I thank you DICE for these 3 updates most! Watch your back snipers, I'll be sharpening my knife ;)
bite it douche, you prolly did the samething when you were a noob
I know right! I hate the noobs using the USAS w/Frag rounds. They should be awesome like me and use the MK3A1 w/Frag rounds. : )
what about the players who hover choppers over the team respond point and park their tanks infront of it also fix that please
Preach it brother !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ammo for vehicles…
I am not buying the Back to karkland exp pack again, No thank you!!!! They say you will have to pay 14.99 again FIX IT !!! WTF !!!!!!
Hi …you dont have to buy it again my friend just download it from ps3 store thats what i did …and it works fine you wont have to pay anymore.
everything is fucked after the udate i select a gun and everything is erased i am missing thing that i unlocked and everthing giltches WTF
I Wish They would make a vehicle training/ practicing Map or maps that would help out alot i think., I Also think they should have a couple of gun ranges to practice like with the sniper rifle.
by the way, how about making PS3 and PC with the same servier?
cause I have PS3 and my friend have PC , and we hope to play with eachother!
Pleace , give me the reasons for not making one servier for both??
Might have something to do with it. Mouse/keyboard vs controller just seems flat unfair.
But honestly, with as much as they're gimping the PC version's features and update schedule to keep parity with the consoles, they might as well.
Are you joking? They're not on the same servers because they are on DIFFERENT CONSOLES, both of which are coded differently.
I have been update the game two times,, but , when my update became at 52% to finished, it will be cancled!
the problems are for the update?? or from my net!?
notice,, two times cancled at 52% exactly >_<
No more MAV Elevator? :( I've only been using recon to get that thing.
Can you please make Grenades more powerful? The kill radious on it is really 50 feet. And I know you're going for most realistic FPS.
No. No they never said that was their goal at all. Why do people keep thinking this? BF isn't meant to be ultra realistic. It has some realism sure but they made a game that's meant to be fun and diverse.
50 feet? lol imaging that on metro…
Is anyone else having a problem getting back the BACK to Karkand map? I have downloaded it twice and noting is happening it does not show up, is Dice serious. I payed for my map now your patch steals it from me.
MOTHER OF G*D WTF did they do to this game now. 10-5 LAST NIGHT now 1-7 WHAT THE MOTHER all you SOB's who bitched untill they make stupid changes FU…
Yeah i know what you mean its really f****d with my KD today and changed all the weapons i used in a massive way….now i have to learn them all over again its just stupid!!
melhorias provam que ea games esta valorizando seu produto
so how do you change between mini-map modes on ps3?
so how do you change between the mini-map modes on ps3?
This is WRONG..
"-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares. "
Explain how a laser guided rocket can be distracted by a flair when it is not looking for heat signatures?
Maybe I am missing something here.
i really cant understand that too…..i have never heard of a flare distracting a lazer guided weapon before….and that was one of the great things about being in a tank team…..now the chopper owns your ass because of the reload time between shots….just stupid!!
great updates
Great updates, DICE, I'm downloading them right now! Just one thing bugged me: Why haven't you added the commo rose to the ps3? Select would open it, and the commos would be chosen using the d-pad. Since spotting probably is the main commo, double tapping the select button would spot automatically.
-Added Horns to all Jeeps. :D :D :D THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT HAHA THANK YOU DICE!
I actually can't understand why all people start whining about everything that actually gets changed (or is not getting changed). I play Battlefield since 1942 and own all of the Battlefield games which have been released for PC. BF1942, Vietnam and BF2 touched me the most, because the gaming community and the gameplay itself was just the best of its time. Dice and EA did a grea job on these games and supported them for a long time with upcomming Patches and Fixes and Tweaks for the Gaming Community. When was the last BF2 Patch? Version 1.51 – 2009 I guess. So Dice fixes things on a 4 years old game without getting any "real" profit from it. It is the same with BF3. The game is really really young. It's been out for half a year now and I personally think Dice is still doing a great Job. They listen to the community wishes and really think about game Balance and what would actually fit with BF3 gameplay. The patch comes out for free, and I guess if you would do something with no effective reward, wouldn't you like to decide WHO and WHEN some1 gets the stuff you worked your ass of for? And for all those PC elitists who keep whining. Srsly? What the fuck happend to the PC Gaming community? PC is the plattform for the professional gamer. Watch all the competive tournaments and leagues which came up in the last years. Console is the Plattform for the casual gamer, who just switches on TV and can start a quick (or endless ongoing) round to have fun, no freaking installation of Patches and/or Drivers is needed, so you are just faster with a console. And it's easier to handle then a PC. But PC is still the Plattform which show's us what is actually possible with todays technology. PC is the ELITE, but only a few % of all Gamers worldwide. So as a company Dice is doing the best they could do with giving the Patch out to Consoles first.
ok, I turn on my ps3 this morning after having a good night playing bf3 b2k.. now it asks me to install upate, so I do.. then restarts, then on startup screen it asks me to re-download b2k.. so after 10 attempts and 10 ps3 freezes later i'm now redownloading from the playstation store, but i'm guessing because it's the older version of b2k it won't fix the gun issues? so far I'm on 58% and it hasn't froze, so touch wood the playstation store doesn't cause my system to freeze..
Ok, it downloaded and installed first time from the playstation store,(which i downloaded first time around) so i would advise anyone getting constant ps3 freezes during download of b2k from the ingame store to use the slastation store instead..
One additional fix that might be worth mentioning is to have both mouse and joystick inversions in the option menu. When flying choppers or jets, I'm always using a joystick (inverted) but when I'm on the ground, I'm using mouse and keyboard (normal). Its a hassle to constantly go into the menu screen and change the inversion back and forth. Just a thought for those who use multiple input devices for the different aspects of the game.
A language filter would have been nice. :-(
there's pretty some problems with the new patch..
there are some things to be fixed in this new patch for the PS3.. now i'm playing it and theres more problems.. one of which is the kits and weapon selection menu.. when i'm change my primary weapon and then go to the accessory menu, the weapon selected returns back to another weapon which i did not picked. i know its not much a problem but its a pain when youre really out of time to customize..
the other is the server browser.. i cant seem to find any server in my region with atleast 1 player.. all servers are 0/24 players haahaha
can someone help?
I had the same problem with the kits
A grappling hook must be nice
yeah that is actually really clever! nice :) would love that
EA the MAV elevator was the reason i played the game sniper's could be anywhere that's what made it more realistic.Please atleast add ladder's to fav. Spot's
Redownload it
No MAV elevator? c´mon DICE. Then you will have to add ladders or something to high buildings or something similiar like stairs or w/e. You just destroyed whats fun about playing sniper! and that is to sneak on high buildings taking out targets 1 by 1. please fix this!
a gdzie jest jest kolega o zgrabnym nicku sramnalag230
Kupa w gaciach, az nie moge sie doczekac jak dzisiaj sobie popykam, bede biegal z karabinami na pestki od arbuza, bedzie wyborowa zabawa.
@POST: "As has been rumored for some time, we are making some improvements to the commo-rose on PC. This is partially based on feedback from the community.". Actually you took a deep breath ant implemented the commo-rose excactly the same as it was in BF2 and BF2142 7 years ago(!) MINUS the tactical commands (because of the missing – and HIGHLY MISSING – commander mode). There is nothing new with it, actually it should have been even in BFBC2 already. But of course we are happy to welcome the old/new commo-rose back, and use it AGAIN as originally intended. :)
Awww…mortar is fucked up now =( Please increase strength of most grenades! They're way too weak
IMPROVEMENTS TO MINIMAP? where?
no need for any download
all working fine now
yes. just do it.
do i really need to download b2k again does any1 no ?????????
Yes, after patching its says you need to re download B2K to continue to play those levels, It does apologize for the inconvenience though :)
no u dont,but if u wanna fix a glitch with the MG36 or the QBU sniper on b2k maps,then u do
Might when they'll fix it
When it will back ?
Don't know, maybe battlelog is also updating
It seems like the servers are down, Battlelog and the Multiplayer is not working on PS3.
Why i cant download the patch?
So why battlelog don't work ?
Cause battleblog are the servers. Each patch and maintenance causes battleblog to go down….
when i want to download the patch i got this Error has accured during download operation 870100…. Wtf??
The SERVERS are being UPDATED. That's WHY you can't join. Console players… Why did they even bother to release the patch to such idiots first?
I can't play at any server. And my connection to EA Online is always lost! Do you know what's going on?
Can't connect to ea online for bf3,hopefully they might be fixing it…
Suppose u in the US, as in EU still no patch to download. I thought about that earlier we will not be able to play till rest install the patch. sucks
downloading it right now, hope will be able to play as I called in sick at work and wanna kick some ass!
Yep same here can't play on any servers.
Unbelievable!! 1 gb download only to render the only part of the game I enjoy useless!! Bravo to Dice on well typed list of improvements, but forgetting to make the actual game playable. Suggest leaving the bong smoking to gamers, not your programmers…..
Yea, I am having the same issue after downloading the new patch. Can't play the game, says that my version of BF3 is incompatible with the servers. I am wondering if EA and DICE do test their new patches before they release it? Please fix it.
I am having the same problem,can't join any game…and only one of the b2k maps r showing,
Getting the same issues as everyone else. Unable to play a Quick Match, getting error "Matchmaking failed: could not find a server to join". Very disappointed in DICE and EA. This is rudimentary stuff. I would like for DICE to respond and explain how they can release an update that made half the game inoperable? Please explain… Furthermore, you make us redownload Karkand…??? Very disappointed. I moved from COD to BF in January 2012 because of the rave reviews of the game. But if this is how the future is going to be, I will be forced to move back to a game that consistently works.
I am awaiting your reply DICE/EA…
Bro i can really agree with you on this one
its saying that my version is not compadible with the games that are being played and i cant see any servers and i did download the update plus back to Karkand map as well\
i just downloded the latest update now it wont let me into any games, any suggestions
It might have been said earlier but there's a bug in rush-mode. Anyone else noticing? Conquestmaps in the middle of the game, very frequent and very annoying. That must be a high priority fix.
I am downloading the patch right it seems to be around 1GB
I hope EA will make good ANTICHEATER protection. Because this is not normally a lot of Servers full with GLITCHERS and CHEATERS. Please EA look at this http://www.bf3cheat.com/ and please think how is possible protect from this CHEATERS.
When is the patch being released? Waiting with my console switched since 9am! Though must admit the MAV elevator shit was cool, we will need a new patch if heli's and jets are now advantaged.
If the tank's guided shell and the javelin cant hit helicopters anymore, then the game is going to be ruined, especially if helicopters can still destroy tanks with their guided. That and the javelin will be useless. Dont ruin your game Dice.
Huh? i wonder if the patch is up yet I'm going to check
What time is the patch released?
I'm confused/concerned on 2 points. IR flares can distract laser designated missiles? I like to helicopter pilot, so this helps me, but it doesn't sound accurate to real warfare to me. I really am looking for actual combat simulation. Also, the m203 grenade launcher does less infantry damage?? I already thought it was a LIL underpowered, and I'm super accurate with it. Flash suppressors giving vertical recoil bonus as opposed to reducing accuracy is a huge plus, as that's way more accurate to real life. Everything else sounds like massive improvements to me. Oh, PLEASE FIX THE SIGHTS ON HELIS AND JETS SO WHEN I SWITCH WEAPONS I DONT HAVE TO SWITCH BACK TO 3RD PERSON TO GET AN ACCURATE SIGHT!!!! (XBOX)
@ zabiijji yes they were! just like call of duty and grand theft auto!
Hum, so why are we all fighting about what platform we play on. shouldnt we just be glad that the people that work to make the game even better are doing a great job at it?
…. so what happened to the squad tweaks????? WTF!!!
@Justinbro13 Left 4 Dead and Fable aren't exclusive to Xbox, champ.
I think X-box players are bitter and are just Hating on PlayStation 3. Why are ya complaining so much? ya suck any ways.
wow ps3 sucks.I had one and it broke from ylod and my friends just broke.Its a piece of shit.Xbox has a way better community and online.We get deals of the week,advertisements,apps, and etc.Plus we have the best exclusives like gears of war 3,halo,left 4 dead, and fable.
Yeah, right, i got 5 Xbox's and they all RROD'd, plus PS3 also has "What's new" Ads, Apps, and there's where you're wrong, PS3 has the best exclusives, Uncharted, Little big planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance, and L4D and Fable aren't exclusives, they're also on PC.
but gears and halo make up for it, they are some of the most succesful games of all timeand they happen to only be on xbox, all ps3 exclusives either suck or are made for little kids!
Keep living in denial. Xbox sucks cock loser.
there also for PC…. dumb ass
My biggest complaint for this patch is that flares can distract laser designated targets. Its so not what is supposed to happen, the whole point of laser designation is that it will go right to the point which the laser is and nothing can throw it off ( only in the case of IR smoke does it veer off that point). Flares are used to throw off heat seekers because the burn hotter than the exhaust coming from most aircraft engines. Otherwise most of the improvements are for the better.
Today is the 26th…
Just ignore CONTROL(R). He is just some upset little kid living in his parents' basement pissed off at the world. His foul language just shows his ignorant nature. You can try to argue with him, but he'll just ignore you and keep at it.
PC Elitist? Really people. The game sucks on 360 and PS3, you console fucks have no clue what your're missing. Who cares who gets the patch first. The game barely runs on a console. We have 64 players and way better/bigger maps than you fuckers anyway.
HEY GUESS WHAT!! no one gives a shit about what you have to say (^__^)
bullshit battlefield runs flawlessly on ps3 and who gives a shit if you have more players and the only thing where missing is wasting 2000$ on a fucking computer why don't you grow some balls and play on a real platform
Dude, it's really a matter of money. If I could afford a $3,000 maingear PC or had the skills and knowledge to build a powerhouse for what people claim to be around $1,200-$1,400, I would. Believe me, any true player of the franchise knows that the Battlefield franchise, and Battlefield 3 especially is better on PC in almost every way.
yeah but why would you waist youre hard earned money on a gaming pc when you could spend 300 on a ps3 or 360 and it may be better on pc but that just means they need to make council version run better
So you are automatically better than everyone else because your parents bought you an expensive computer to play games on. You're cool, and the only reason PC has bigger maps and more people is because Microsoft wouldn't increase their bandwith. Otherwise it would be just the same… Last thing I gotta say. U MAD BRO?
Why didn't you fix the squads bug in Squad Rush? This mode is unplayable when you join, and can not get into a squad! It was reported so much in the forums!
Don't get me wrong I'm happy you put so much work in this update – but please fix this!
Additionally it should be possible to manage players as server admin, when the server is full!
Thanky You anyway
Im gonna miss riding the MAV. Other than that fix everything else.
This is a bittersweet moment. On one hand, it is great news and welcomed to see the full patch list finally put together. It is quite a laundry list and I can pretty much put a check-mark on every single item in there as personally experienced while playing the game, so I must definitely will enjoy the experience the patch will bring while at the same time dread the unintended consequences that always come with adjusting something. But I am hopeful, as with BFBC2 it took a good number of updates and tweaks to get to a level that was the right balance, but once there the game lived truly to its 110% potential. But also the patches then happened at a much better rate than what we have today.
On the other end, one cannot avoid feeling uneasy and certainly a little mad/frustrated at the events as they unfolded. I'd love for you and/or the DICE folks if ever can give us a reasonable explanation as to why this staggered approach happened. I mean, the track record suggested otherwise and here are a few points to consider:
- I truly believe the Patch coming first to PS3 has nothing to do with Sony's 1-week exclusivity. If memory serves me right, the PC version was the first one to get patched (twice!) before the consoles got even one. The only time it wasn't like this was with B2K but this was obviously because the DLC and the patch were one and the same. Unless you got the proverbial handslap from the lawyers for doing this, I see no reason why the PS3 first is due to some legal agreement in place. Patches to improve the game experience are something that should not be regulated in that sense. DLC? Sure.
- It is a well known fact that the PC cert. and the consoles cert. are different. You have said so many times, other folks know it. Due to this, PC could be ready first, and certainly was last year, twice. For the longest time, the BF3 PC community requested this new patch released before consoles (with a reason, it had happened before already); DICE's response (when finally given via tweets and this very blog) was a resound "it will be ready when all platforms are ready". What happened? Why is the PS3 patch being released then when not all platforms are done? Or conversely, why not have a somewhat accurate window for when the PC and Xbox will be ready?
- If indeed the "delay" for PC and Xbox are due to technical bugs and/or level of completion, things are even more disturbing in a way. If the PC patch is being worked on to adjust the Commo Rose why then announce it as complete, and even list it in the patch notes? The previous patches had notes per platform. So are these notes only applicable to PS3? Because if so, this has not been communicated clearly as of today, many Battlefield communities are reporting the list as all inclusive.
- PC and Xbox development is hard, that I understand, but from mentions from other developers during all these years the PC/Xbox porting and work is not that hard, whereas the PS3 is not very straightforward and friendly given its unique nightmarish architecture. Is the patch for PS3 truly, absolutely complete, if the patch for the "easy" platforms still being worked on?
Seeing as how everything has evolved, it is clear in my gaming mind that all platforms are not treated the same by DICE. Yes, you are indeed supporting all 3, but the level and priorities are not the same. They simply are not. This patch saga now clearly points to the PS3 as being the lead platform, much to the chagrin of the old core and Veteran PC community and to the leading platform Xbox community (not a fanboy here, simply stating market facts). And you know what? This is not a bad thing, we gamers are flexible as long as we are treated with respect and being told the truth.
As long as you clearly disclose things, and not get folks ready and excited promising something (all 3 are same, all 3 will be released together) for something that in the very last minute gets changed, then and only then many others will engage in a conversation rather than a flame war.
So here, waiting impatiently for news on the PC/Xbox patch.
They should have held off the ps3 patch so that they could all come out at the same time.The bad thing is they didnt give us a release date again.
BF3 maps are horrible in my opinion.I used to love metro but it fucking sucks.The design is so fucking gay.RU has a way better side than you US.With US you have to go upstairs and shit.If you have a good team who knows how to play you will dominate.All you got to do is keep people from coming up.All everybody does is shoot m320s and shit down the stairs and shit.
Lol the big epic fail, your saying is the design is gay. well then go to france and tell em its gay.
When the patch is now so what time?
Actually, recon has the best reasons to have a mortar strike.For instance, in a real situation on the battlefield, recon/ snipers sit back and lay low ( its their job) they communicate with the eye in the sky 30,000 feet up, give them the coordinates, and hell rains down on tanks, or terrorists playing with themselves. In this game, why not replace the soflam (practically useless) with a mortar strike. Those who choose the recon class obviously cant go against everybody and their mother using a famas or a tank of some sort. If you look at the end of a round a sniper averages about 11 kills, and even that takes allot to get- so yeah a mortar strike would make racking up the kills a little easier and more enjoyable for those who solely enjoy the game for the sniping and other technicalities that could be useful for taking out "tank whores" and a million enemies grouped up in a base protecting an m-com.
Just change the conquest assault to normal conquest on all maps!
ALL I WANT IS PRIVATE MATCHES !!!!!!!!!!!! Please Jesus !
Recon doesn't need mortar strike, that ability was a pathetic means of giving recon an easy kill optionin BC2 (which IMO isn't worthy of being called a Battlefield game). Recon isn't all about sniping. A good recon is a support player that just happens to use either a sniper rifle or a close quarter weapon like SMG or shotgun. Recon isn't there to give you a bunch of ways to kill people, recon is exactly that, reconnaissance, you're there to be the eyes for the rest of your team and take out TARGETS OF OPPORTUNITY. A recon that's topping kills is hanging his team out to dry the SOFLAM is proof of this, any sniper worth his salt on a vehicle map is gonna be actively using the SOFLAM so his team can maintain armor superiority.
As for the dates, the reason PS3 is getting it first is because there are bugs with the 360 and PC versions of the patch that need to be addressed, these bugs do not exist in the PS3 version.
agree with you my friend, i just was waiting for the one shot kill at close range, and i think that's all the recon class needed, i dont need a mortar strike, actually un bc2 i never used it, i prefer be running with c4 than that shit =3
true vadnais but the question still stands as i myself would not deploy a new patch to one console all because of bugs in another console patch id wait till all bugs are fixed and deploy the patch for all consoles at the same date as any new weapons or additional gear for instance the med packs and ammo packs dont disappear for players on play station after patching but will for those on the Xbox console i would not deploy the patch till both consoles or all consoles could use it
u cld just go buy a ps3 instead of shitty xbox only reason i have one is so my fiance can play left 4 dead other than that it can collect dust for all i care
i think someones forgot to ask the question why release the update just for playstation3 first and not xbox aswell its pretty obvious to me as a game designer that both xbox and playstation 3 is more than eligable to be updated at the same time or in my in game words ( WTF )
Give us a Battlerecorder™ Please.
If your gonna patch the mav elevator then pleaseeeeeee… pleaseeeee give the sniper something else effective to work with. Bring back the mortar strike, or make to where I can target some people and have a ac130 fly by( its realistic none the less because snipers see the over all picture on the battlefield not the support class). Its hard enough that bf3 varies from your other previous games as the maps favor a more "modern warfare approach" ,and snipers are left helpless when practically everybody is running around with their heads cut off, spinning circles and holding the trigger down on the m60 or famas. I paid $60 for the battlefield I had always liked, not some shananigins where I'm trying to find and kill a support player while he is bombing me etc.. If anybody feels the same then now is the time to speak up because EA will do something to fix it. On behalf of all snipers… please give us more tools to work with!
If your gonna patch the mav elevator then pleaseeeeeee… pleaseeeee give the sniper something else effective to work with. Bring back the mortar strike, or make to where I can target some people and have a ac130 fly by( its realistic none the less because snipers see the over all picture on the battlefield not the support class). Its hard enough that bf3 varies from your other previous games as the maps favor a more "modern warfare approach" ,and snipers are left helpless when practically everybody is running around with their heads cut off, spinning circles and holding the trigger down on the m60 or famas. I paid $60 for the battlefield I had always liked, not some shananigins where I'm trying to find and kill a support player while he is bombing me etc.. If anybody feels the same then now is the time to speak up because EA will do something to fix it. On behalf of all snipers… please give us more tools to work with!
am agree with you. now no body going to play with sniper.
mortar striiiiike! yeah dude that was da bomb. no pun intended. who cares about the famas its sprays for like 2 seconds, if that, anyway. n besides if ur getting caught by gunfire from people with their "heads cut off" then ur not a good sniper cause u shouldnt be in the middle of the firefight, although the sniper does need some serious help. n ive played all the BFs and theyve always kept their massive map and crazy "where can u go to do the craziest stuff" options well open. dont honestly kno what ur talkin bout son. they fixed that runnin around to kill people bombin people situation tho. check it again. MORTAR STRIKE! bring it back! bring it back! bring it back!
Why always when I try to get into MP it crashes my network I can't play my network works everywhere else except BF help me please PS3…
Anyway you can post an idea how the new servers will work?
All those changes and the USAS with 12G Frag is still going to be the only weapon used… Too bad. Your user-base is dwindling…
more players in squad plz or create a new squad.
Yes, instead of 4 have 8 and this way in TDM the teams can better work together and if console ever goes to 64 players in the "Armored" we can have squads of eight.
And 8 vs. 8 might be an easier TDM than 4 vs. 4 vs. 4 vs. 4
Did you fix mg36 bug? Please do.
I did get the bug on my mg36 also ;)
I think if you redownload and install Back to Karkand it fixes the MG36 bug. I am assuming you are talking about when running around with the MG36 up overyour head, fun but ineffective. :)
Yes they did : http://blogs.battlefield.com/2012/03/redownload-b2k/
Can anyone tell me if with this patch will be corrected the problem of arms and players disappear?
Still no battlerecorder for PS3 or XBOX?
that sucks……..
I totally second this request even to the point where I will pay microsoft points (or PS3 currency) to have one that worked with BF3 and new BF tittles.
JDAM for Jets or something;plz…
still " -Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.
" wtf…= lasermarks are useless against airs. NICE, why dont deleting the lasermarkers?
For someone who has put in 209 hrs 55m you are crying a lot about a game you clearly play! If it is that bad don't play…
so, i take it that this is why the 360 servers are down at the moment?…
Everything I needed is in the patch except the FAMAS should have the recoil slightly reduced at least.
That would make that gun soooo OP'd
Please add custom crosshairs.
Like in BF2. This is isnt so hard.
and more console commands.
What about bomb timers on RUSH, it seems that only when im defusing the bomb when its about at its last leg do i hear the complete alarm…..other times its doing its normal bomb alarm when im heading over there, when it decides to blow up
The MAV as an elevator brings full use of the buildings and roofs! getting boring or give us a way to the roof!
i agree with you. it will for sure get really boring since they r taking away the mav as a elevator. if they are going to do that then they should give us ways to get to the roofs.
One can pray.
I suppose you can fuck your entire team and waste choppers…
all the usas 12 users can go to HELL after the patch
Mordor already told DICE to put "A" through "E" on the flag symbols across the top of the mini-map. What happened? It really is not complex.
Where is the Squad Leader communication rose?
Where are Attack and Defend commands?
Where are need medic and need ammo?
DICE, we already told you and Kertz the BFBC2 order system is a failed experiment. Some how the BFBC2 mess ended up in Battlefield 3. We want a proper BF2 order system.
huh? what happened to releasing the game on all platforms @ the same time??? i thought that was why the already finished PC patch has'nt been released yet.:( BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yo guys thanks for the great patches, but there are a few things that seem a lil whacked. The USAS. yeah yeah i know. i totally agree it had to be balanced in a major way but reducing and fixing firing rate, less explosive spread on frag slugs, hindering the recoil further AND dropping down the bullet count from 11 (never 12 for me maybe a glitch on PS3) to 9 is a little much. The famas reduced bullet count 25 sure cool. not increasing the reload rate at least a little to balance that out… not so cool. i mean it already takes longer to reload the damn thing than it does to autofire the entire clip. next, going from prone to standing is already fast especially considering the weight a soldier has to carry and the grenade explosive time is already damn long. if you're goin to do that we (the players) should be able to COOK THE GRENADE. i dont even know why that wasn't in the game initially. glitch: when i throw a grenade and then i die it doesn't explode. me dying should not cancel a blast; i play BF and not MW for a/those reason(s). last thing, the fade time from death to respawn might be nice but kinda hinders the assault class dramatically. thanks for hearing out my bitching and moaning. GREAT work guys and gals! and again i play on PS3.
sorry if i sound like an idiot here i play on a 360 and when i knife someone it shows the animation of taking the dog tags but they arnt visible its like im grabbing the air from his neck and i know im not the only one who has this problem alot of my friends are dealing with the same thing. shouldnt it be fair to treat consoles just as good as PC with detail? im pretty sure this deserves a patch.
i a ps3 player and i dont have that problem it sounds like it might just be a random problem though
the "Rent a Server" functionality have already a price information?……..always god job guys
Im really getting tired of the guns.I cant what for close quarters to come out.Mostly all the sub-machine guns suck pp2000 and ump deals damage but has a to slow of a rate of fire.P90,pp19, and the mp7 sucks.PDW-R is the only usable one to me.BFBC2 had way better submachine guns
hello guys, first of all i'll like to congratulate you for the wonderfull game; i just love it. Second of all, i've encounter one glitch since the beginnig that i've found very frustraiting: When i fire an RPG and then get kill by someone instantly after i fired, my RPG vanishes in the air and doesn't kill the player i was shooting to even in a body shot at pin range cuase it dissappears when i get killed; it happens every time! Another glitch i've encountered is that since the last console update that allows custom servers, i haven't got a single hit marker with guided missiles in air to air fights. I used to equip laser painter and guided for my scout choper, but had to change back to heatseakers 'cause of the inaccuracy of this, i can't take enemy scout chopers i've laser targeted out of the sky with those anymore. And since the same timeline, i can't kill enemy laser designated attack chopers with my jet's guided missile either, i used to do it often. I play on PS3. Thank you, i hope you'll read this.
You guys need to add support for the G510 Logitech keyboard so we can see our stats and stuff on the LCD display.
Shorten the AA missiles not good. Didn't say they fixed the white cross hairs in the AAV mobile or not. You lose them when looking up. Like the reverse speed for tanks. And no more MAV elevators. Would like to see more Destruction of buildings and trees.
- Disabled vehicles now have an increased reverse speed to help escape to cover after being disabled.
- Semiautomatic and automatic shotguns firing FRAG rounds now do slightly less splash damage
- Semiautomatic sniper rifles, Assault Rifles, LMGs, and shotgun slugs now have more consistent damage over long range. At maximum range shots to the legs will not require more hits to kill.
- 870: No change. The 870 is a popular and highly effective weapon.
These as well as the repair torch being only slightly rather than extremly reduced, is very lame. The rest is good, I'll finaly start playing BF3 again as I was sick of all the unbalanced crap.
DICE really needs to give recon the C4 back. I understand the mortars, but C4 was the one thing Recon had to defend themsleves somewhat vs vehicles
I agree.
Updates look great from my view(xbox360). Glad to see all the USAS tards might have to switch weapons for once(yay!!!). Just hope that the severs are going to be better in the long run. Was my only concern really. That, and still want a "bigger" rifle in the recon class. Why you deleted the .50cal, you have your reason. Just bring it back with some tweaks and it would be really nice.
I welcome all the updates except for the flares distracting laser designations. That doesn't make any sense, and your seriously just hurting the Recon class even more now that your stripping them of another advantage over vehicles. I agree with Ironthumb15, you need to simply make ECM jammers more effective, and let Recons keep the laser designations since it will still require teamwork to bring down an aircraft. I'm still bummed you stripped Recons of the laser designated missile, the C4, and then the Mortar strike. Let support keep the mortars, it makes sense, but give the c4 or LD Missile back to recon!
DICE, I'm loving what I'm seeing in this patch, but I don't see anything concerning the B2K weapon bugs (weapons in wrong place in FPS view and no scope when zoomed in). I myself have seen this in MG36, QBB-95 & QBU-88S. I should mention, that the bugs are only on the B2K maps. Maybe you've fixed that bug already and I've missed it (I've given up using those weapons because of the bug).
In any case, this patch should be awesome.
Fixed already on PS3…. have to redownload and reinstall B2K
thank u DICE for that awesome gaming experience!!!!!i love how u guys care about your community & your game!we true bf players support u!!
finally i wont get killed by that stupid MAV, and thats meessed up how they did something to the
USAS-12 just because people were complaining
well people complaining is how things get changed im sure you were right with the rest of the whiners about MAV.
Messed up? People were complaining about it for a reason. It has ridiculous splash damage and an insane rate of fire. It is far and away the most unbalanced thing in the game.
Overall I am really exited about the fixes. However, I don't agree about flares being able to distract laser designated weapons. To me that seems to take away from the point of laser painting. If you want to have countermeasures against laser designation then make the ECM jammer more effective.
The only problem i have with this patch is simply the Mav. In my opinion it is a fun way to use the recon kit to spot enemies and get a few kills. To sacrifice the Mav in the case of getting a kill is ridiculous. Also as for the elevator i am used to being able to see a building in the environment and get on it. I dont mind if you patch that aspect but please give me the ability to get on-top of objects via stairs or ladders so i can have good sniping positions!
I hated when people would use the MAV as an elevator. But I agree with crusaider226 that it was almost the only way to get good sniping positions. I always hated it when people would use the MAV to get to the top of the overpasses on Tehran Highway because they were very difficult to kill. I wish DICE had added more legitimate access points for roof tops and tower positions. I also find it frustrating when there would be a radio tower or smoke stack which clearly has a catwalk but a fake ladder extending down. DICE, please extend the ladders to make these legitimate sniper perches!
Must agree hat there would e morr LEGITS way to get on rooftops
I welcome all this changes, THANK YOU DICE for listening. I'm a bit disappointed at Jav + Soflam combo now able to be fooled by flairs, BUT they made Stingers USEFUL. Granted at reduced range but that's all i wanted to be able to defend my self against little birds and helli's. I don't want to snipe a helli with a Stinger just want to stand a chance and they listened. Also the MAV elevator glitch again THANK YOU DICE that was a game breaker. I play on the 360 and i don't have a problem with waiting for patch, I played the PS3 version at my friend's house and saw what he had to put up with. The PS3 REALLY NEEDS the patch. I think we can be a little patient we all want to enjoy the game. Just my opinion.
Objectives over the Minimap should have labels i.e. A, B, C…
I want commo-rose for console! How hard can it be?? That would make the gameplay so much sweeter!
Xbox got screwed over royally.
Can you now unbind the Commo-rose from the Q key so I can finally sprint and turn at the same time?
Great fixes and adjustments. I wish they would fix some other minor bugs on PS3 that annoy me: (1) The icons on the minimap, showing conquest progress, sometimes do not show the progress accurately. For an example on the minimap point A can be shown as neutral or being conquered while in fact it is not. (2) When you respawn the icons showing if your weapon is on burst or single round setting are sometimes missing until you switch either to single shot or burst. (3) You sometimes respawn as a different class whithout having selected a different class while waiting for respawn.
i love how everyone moans ps3 get it first y not the pc heres an idea y dont they just release across all platforms at once. same with dlc seems bit pointless as for the game issues its a game and there will always be issues with games but it still playable and if u find its not go play sumin else simple really y moan its not really gonna make a difference they will get on it when they get on it unless u gonna pony up thousands of pounds for em to do it faster
so the mg36 has even more recoil… as if it dosent have it already
I hope they add a visual extended magazine for the AS VAL or else I'm gonna be pissed. I mean, they did it for the PDW-R so why not?
I hope they fixed M4A1 and AKS-74U weapon bug.
My main weapon is M4A1 but in next round my start weapon is AKS-74U, it's because of side changing(RU to USA) . It's very disturbing because you want to jump first in helicopter but before it you must change weapon every single match and when you do that the helicopter is gone.
Maybe i am the only one who have that kind of problem?
No I have it too, your not the only one… :D
your not alone on that one mate its bloody annoying and there seems to be no work around for it
me too mate & also the same with the m9 & mp443 pistols!when i get the service star these pistols just switching sides…normally i should be able too choose what i want right?? :-)
Did it say anything about squads getting seperated while joining a game??
Wow "slightly less damage" for FRAG. Well its better than nothing I guess
REALLY STUPID that a Claymore disappears after you die, if they do that then the M15 mine should also disappear after you die. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING.
UHHH lets see here, why don't the fix the f-ing ticket count. The games now are so damn short. The k/d ratios are so low. They barley reach 10!! For F sake. What the hell happened to the ticket count.. there used to be LONG rounds.. Remember those? Where the game didn't end after 6min. the Kill ratios were in the 20′s n 30′s… What is going on!?!? And way over half the time in a full game, it seems like only half the players on each side are playing.. WTF!?!?
yeah i think the ticket count was way better in bc2!now u can't enjoy the game & specially my favorite maps like metro, wake island, gulf of oman, caspian border….
I hope the parachute is way faster to maneuver as in real life you can freaking can turn and swoop like crazy. also it would be nice to play on a map with friends only on x box 360 unless I am missing something.
Yeah but it's totally unrealistic and implausible. The physics just aren't right.
About the MAV that is
I'm very annoyed that MAV riding will be removed. It made the gameplay fun!
you must be a
are you an idiot? you would think its fun gettin on to a building no one can challenge you on..pansy
i know it's optional but ANTI-ALIASING disabling will reduce input lag on ps3 so it doesn't completely take it out hmm in return we will have crappy ass edges and reduced graphics thanks dice…here's to more complaining from us ps3 gamers hopefully not. what i think is stupid is us ps3 gamers get it first. i feel like if we get it first it's probably rushed even though it's a week. just wondering do you guys have separate developers individually working on all 3 platforms?!
We'll have to see how much of a difference there is with the AA on/off. I don't think the XBOX has AA, or if it does, it's not active AA, and the XBOX looks very similar to the PS3 (besides a bit more screen tearing on the XBOX that I've noticed).
From what I've heard, AA really takes a toll on the resources needed to process the game. I'm hoping that with it off, there's not much of a noticeable difference in the visable jagged edges, and that the additional processing resources that are made available, not only reduce the controller input lag, but also allow the game to run at a more smoother/consistent frame rate with faster texture populations.
That would be cool, maybe it's just wishful thinking though.
Can a dev comment on this possible trade-off?
If I sacrifice myself to set C4 somewhere I should be able to detenoate it regardless of it is within 5 seconds of a death…should be the same as mines
Still no change to the flashlight??? A flashlight cannot blind you outside in the middle of the day, its impossible, apparently Dice has never actually tried this for real like us Marines…also why can Mines stay after a death but C4 cannot? Its harder to set C4 on a tank than it is to drop mines….this is a big inconsistency…
Standing outside today (It's sunny) with a flashlight pointed towards my eyes (2m from me). I can tell you that everything went white and it took about 1 minute to recover to normal.
So I tested with a cheap light, and it works…
And now to the story about the C4 and mines. The difference is that if a person puts down mines and dies, it's easy to dodge the mines still and it doesn't resolve in your own death. But when a support puts C4 on you and dies, you will die if you don't get out of your tank before he spawns again.
I pretty sure it can and they made changes to the flashlight radius outside in the last patch, I looked it up for you.
Now Sony paid for a week of exclusivity for a patch too??
I am just guessing, but if that is true, thanks Dice for being so respectfull with the PC and Xbox 360 community
hey, be more goddamn respectful. You PC users got heaps better off, in my opinion playing BF3 is no-where near as good as playing it on PC. You get better graphics, the "Commo-rose" better servers, and altogether better performance. Us console users (I got it on my Xbox instead of PS3) get a good game, not a "Fully fricken awesome" game in my opinion. Just because we get slightly earlier things doesn't mean that they are neglecting or disrespecting PC and Xbox players. And yes, ,oney does matter to DICE as they need money to make games and be rich.
Dude its only a week difference. Don't be such a baby. If you have ever played call of duty, ps3 had to wait 1-3 months to get their content.
Exclusivity maybe, most likely the fact that the most bugged platform that really requires a patch is once again the PS3 due to it using OpenGL. Its hard to port/adapt a game from DirectX (PC and Xbox API) to OpenGL (some PC games and PS3) without a buggy process. Look at Skyrim.
OK I'm drunk and bored and just wondering if I can get a normal straight answer that makes sense…why does it matter if the PS3 gets it first ?
"PlayStation 3 players may now turn off anti-alias in the options menu to reduce input lag."
Interesting this is DICE's solution for the PS3 lag feel. OF COURSE i'll turn off AA then. I hope it doesn't look much worse. Bad Company 2 had the best overall weapon feel of any game, I would hope it's a little more like that.
Here is to hoping next gen ALL games are 60fps and as responsive as COD though.
Well this comment will not be heard, but once again DICE fail the PC BF Community. Only improvement on my part will be the Satellite mini-map. Commo-rose already seems like a fail. Just stop making Battlefield for PC. Focus on console. Clearly where your gonna be making more money. Thanks for making me buy a brand new PC just for BF3. "Havent played BF3 since December."
I know you got first comment and all but no need to troll with such idiocy
I love this patch, as a casual player (no clan, play in a community but thats about it, maybe 5 hours/week on a good one) covers lots of niggling problems, adds loads of cool features, and most of all someone dumped a boatload of common sense in; seriously how can claymores not blow up a truck ?
One thing I'd argue about is MAV riding. I love it, getting to nooks and crannies (stay away from impossible to shoot places) but I'm assuming it can be explained with realism..would one of those support a person's weight ha
oops didn't realise comments were newest first…thank god for that. gets rid of all the firsttards
I agree, the mav elevator was one of the only things a sniper could use that is as effective as a mortar strike, or c4, rpg, revive.. Without the mav riding I feel like im stuck trying to snipe in a fucking modern warfare game!!!!!
After reading this all I have to say is good bye BF3. Completely ruined now by the dumbest updates ever. Like why does a dumb flare stop laser guided missiles? Now jets/helicopters get to be indestructible. Well no maps/game types with air support for me now ….. Actually I'm just going to stop playing this game and won't get the DLC :) Love how you guys seem desperate to turn players away by making it so people can literally be indestructible with the updates. Way to listen to the superman wannabes over actual smart people. Bye BF3, sorry you never got to be as great as BF:BC or BF:BC2.
I've never posted here but just had to say to you, you are an idiot. First of all, don't nit-pick on a game's weapon choices and how they decide to deploy/counter them, ESPECIALLY when you have NFI about the real world counter parts.
DiCE implemented the laser guiding system to expand certain weapons and because IT SOUNDS COOL. You want realism ? OK how about this.
1. Javelin is a CD self contained unit (lol at you thinking they have some sort of uber network for target aquisition and forwarding setup) that means nobody is helping you pick a target anywhere.
2. The targeting system it uses is infrared, so yes flares would work fine against it, but that brings us to..
3. Javelin's can't lock onto air targets. Although they can dumb fire (I wish they'd implement that but suppose it keeps it balanced)
In fact in pretty much all combat situations if you lock on, you are the only one whos gonna hit em..you can't share targets, the infrastructure is just too complex to roll it out across the entire battlefield. RADAR systems though can pick up a target and pass the details on to someone else before someone chirps in with that.
I know it's a long post but I'm sick to death of people slagging off DICE, or infiityward or whoever makes COD now. It's called artistic license people, if they made super serious shooters you'd hate it.
But most importantly of all, don't argue for features that apparently don't make sense when they never did in the first place, just makes out like you're tyring to pretend to be some knowledgable army guy who knows the real shit HOOWAH!
O and before anyone points out the irony, I know all the above because of discovery channel and wikipedia :P
I covered some of your post but missed quite a lot.
After reading this all I have to say is good bye BF3. Completely ruined now by the dumbest updates ever.
Like why does a dumb flare stop laser guided missiles? Now jets/helicopters get to be indestructible
Well no maps/game types with air support for me now ….. Actually I'm just going to stop playing this game and won't get the DLC :) Love how you guys seem desperate to turn players away by making it so people can literally be indestructible with the updates.
Way to listen to the superman wannabes over actual smart people. Bye BF3, sorry you never got to be as great as BF:BC or BF:BC2.
I covered your laser problem,
How are air vehicles indestructable ? if anything they are more vulnerable to ground crews. Finally the stinger will be useful! Think about it, when the heli's are attacking you they're always close anyway, so with a quicker locking on missle that will disable in 1 go you've not only gotut a chance to take it down but just by brandishing it you're going to cause a panic and flee.
Air battles will also benefit from the upgrades. I've shot down a jet once. ONCE! The AA missiles take an age to lock on and by the time they have they've gone out of range, it'll finally be ok to play as a lone heli pilot instead of having to beg for a gunner.
Who are these smart people you speak of ? I'd love to shake their hands because if this is everything they wanted then they did a bang up job. I see the only thing this doing is making the players take more time deciding on kit and tactics, what now with the variables being per weapon rather than umbrella settings. And let's not forget how important these CQB variable weapon changes will be once the close quarters pack drops.
I do agree in some sort of deranged way about your superman thing in that the one problem with BF3 is it's too easy to die…not by much, just that tiny little bit. Now this was fine, but if like me you're an average player but like the odd hardcore game now and again it's just an exercise in frutility.
Anywho think I've covered most your childish and unwarranted whinging, time for me to have a beer!
Where is comma-rose for consoles? ):
Just put a option in the menu to activate it at least!
The Bipod should be deployed by the player, not by itself
"Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares"
… what is the logic behind this ? They are LASER guided not heat guided …
Yeah, really! What is up with that. I loved how ECM jammer worked to stop them, but not flares.
Well, you need to stay lasing the target IRL, so..
Still doesn't explain how a flare stops the laser designation …. Not like the laser designator controller is going to see the flair and go, "oooh! Shiny!!!!," turning the laser designation away from the enemy vehicle ….
the missile is guided by infra red
Well, will Xbox players be able to adjust visual settings as well?
Really like the tweaks overall, great job!
Thanks, guys!
Tehran highway is seriously over played in conquest mode for 360! And I don't think enough has been taken out of the USAS-12. That weapon is far too powerful! Those are my only concerns. Thank you!!
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Ok that corny that the c4 and claymores go away after u die. Ooo and mines to. If that the case tanks should a certain amount of rounds. if I know now that after I kill a support class I know I can wait 5 sec's before goin up sum stairs or down a hallway. Y does a engineer only put down 6 mines but a tank can unlimited ammo and can see them after the scope upgrade. I don't thin c4u or claymores should go way. U need them for when u do die it ur last line of defence. Beside that the pacth is ok
Reads post…… Is happy….. Reads agian……… Finds that foregrip is less acurate……………. "SCREAMS WHAT THE F@!# IS THIS GARBAGE EA!" at computer.
If anything it says the guns with very large vertical recoil will benefit more from it. Which is what a foregrip is for anyway. Not really for greater accuracy. That's why you have the heavy barrel attachment for greater accuracy at longer ranges. Combine the two together to get the best of both worlds. :D
You should ad that i can't join my friend who hasn't got the map pack that i can't even join him! it's really frustrating and sad because i really want to play with him
why dont u just add 2 seated jets for pilot and navigator and chinooks
When we are able to record gameplay (battlerecord)?
When we are able to go through deckchairs and curbs with out jumping.
When we are able to destroy the bridges and all the clone buildings (as im BC2)
True night maps (like in ARAM2)
Real time event not the script ones like radio tower, we should be able to destroy it in real time.
ps3 early again. what a suprise.
mini map still looks terrible. Y U NO ADD FULL COLOUR MAPS?
hurry up and announce 2143 so us vets can quickly forget about bf3.
it doesnt matter that xbox gets maps first
Did you guys forgot the Spec mode ! :/
ok so where is inside dice, did yall forget
the news in German:
PS3, why not add more options to decrease graphcs, like V-Sync is one big badass FPS killer. sure Anti Aliasing will probably help, but more FPS options.
VERY dissapointed about the fact that the patch is probably being released first for PS3 because of that stupid debacle with the free copy of Battlefield 1943 or whatever. 360 users and PC players have been experiencing just as much, if not more issues as PS3 users. At least release them at the same time. I particularly hate the MAV. I mean c'mon DICE…
Why dont ya quit ur complaining; almosts every game supports xbox 360 rather than ps3: maps come first everything EX: COD
bf3 classes suck the only usable ones in engineer and assault because the guns for support are all inaccurate the person can be right in your face and you can be shooting and get no hit markers.Recon is even worse.Only for dumb people who like to sit around and snipe.Bfbc 2 classes were better.Famas and Usas are so bad dice how could you put this in the game just give players a easy way boost people running around with 100+ service stars with these guns.Oh and the submachine guns suck and the ones that have a little power have a low rate of fire.Bfbc2 is a way better game than this.
All classes are usable. I'm playing myself alot of support and I belive it's a real fun class. I recently started up playing Reacon and have really found the advantage of this class to give your team a lead on the battlefield. Reacon is made for defense and not offense; You protect your flags so the other part of your team can focus on getting the enemy flags -> Your team will hold all flags and therefor win the game
AND I Need Medic …
And maybe add VOIP?
ea to add in-ROSE IMPROVED COMMO
I Need Ammo
I Need Help
I Need Cover
And repair The bug disappeared directing weapons or is it just me ..
They should make a team deathmatch game where its like conquest only its team deathmatch
I miss the Battlerecorder….
Again broken promises powered by EA????
The cheaters will be deligthed to hear that…
Quit yer whining you pc snobs
If the patch for PC and Xbox 360 comes out like a month later I'm am never buying a Battlefield game again. This is ridiculous! Its a patch not a damn DLC! Grow a brain DICE, look at the comments from this post and the one on Battlelog and you will see more than half the people who commented are outraged! I HIGHLY doubt you listen to your costumers and fans. If anything PC should get it first because it's your leading platform. I don't know who is dealing with the releases of patches, DICE or EA, but whoever is needs to stop being dickheads and release it for all platforms on one damn day! This patch was needed months ago and now they are screwing PC and Xbox 360 over. Nice listening to your fans DICE/EA.
If I were DICE I would wait until all the patches were ready for PC, Xbox and PS3 then release them at the same time. This over pissing off the Xbox and PC players that never see any daylight.
Also, you forgot to fix the party system on PS3. When you join a game with your party it splits it up, putting you on separate teams. Really annoying.
People say console need their own bf3.It would have been nice if they woulld have release bf3 for pc and bfbc3 for console.People would complain so much.That would have been a lot of work.
FU Dice ps3 get the patch march 27 xbox 360 and pc get the patch a month later.Dice will give the date for ps3 and not pc and xbox.You would think pc would get anything first.I play on xbox 360
-Added Horns to all Jeeps.
Yes yes yes yesss! I need that. Thx.
I love this list, a lot of fixes that should be added in the next patch. I'll add a few things I would like to see for PC.
• BF2142 style U.I. for squad management and customization.
• Increase the speed of the jets. Fix gravity so that the jet drops when slowing down. The invisible ceiling should be higher, at least 3500ft.
• Fix choppers to be a bit quicker.
• Add multiple views for vehicles like in previous games, no cockpit and front view cam.
• There's no artillery in the game, mortar was nerfed too much. I know Armor Kill will have this, but please add a rocket artillery or something. Every BF game had one until this point.
• 6 man squads with proper VOIP. I met my current clan mates through BF2′s voip.
• Bring back commander, period. The original goal was to not take away players from the action, well this failed because I've seen three or four recon using MAVs and a groups of support class with mortars away from the action.
• Squad upgrades like in BF2142
• Players spawning on a Spawn Beacon should spawn higher and without parachute when in outdoor environments.
• Add Mashtuur City as a free map.
• Don't shrink classic BF maps in the future by taking away flag points. Sharqi is the only map that has that classic feel.
• Introduce new armies to allow new weapons and vehicles, like Euro Force and Special Forces.
I can go on and on, lol. But please DICE, sit down and go on YouTube and look for all BF2 and BF2142 related videos and add everything that is missing. This community is slowly bleeding players.
I hope that in your next patch most of these fixed and most important, add what other BF PC games had in the past. I also hope that in your next release which we know will be multi-platform you release two different versions of the game, don't port a PC game to console then back to PC. Consoles need their own BF game, like BF Modern Combat which was great.
Good job dice I am looking forward to these updates I see great things for battlefield 3 in the future ps good idea with the different map styles very unique. Thanks 00killer123
This is all great. Especially the tweaks to the USAS and it's frag round nonsense… it would be cool to have the IRNV capable of seeing through the smoke created by smoke grenades. it's kinda the whole point of IR, isn't it??
yes nobody is going to hardly use the mav like they was before.Terhan highway is going to be a better map.Does anyone thinks that bf3 maps are nothing compared to bfbc2
To DICE,
I honestly don't really care whenever the patch for PC comes later or not. I just want it to address more then just the weapons balancing. If DICE actually reads and listens to what the community feels needs to be patched or added. They should seriously consider doing just that.
For example:
• The minimap and its rather large icons (on PC).
• When using the colorblind mode the minimap doesn't change colors accordingly.
• The objective icons above the minimap have no letters in them to match the objectives.
• When a flag is being captured before it hits neutral there is no indication on the 3D markers. The only way to know which flag is getting captured is by looking at the minimap where the flag icon flashes.
• The TV missile is far too difficult to steer, and often has hitreg problems.
• Not being able to switch load-out mid game for next spawn.
• No build in squad VOIP.
• No warning tone for laser designated incoming missiles.
• No way of knowing what your inmates are using for vehicle specializations other then using chat. Which very unpractical.
• When using the reactive armor specialization anyone in the second or third seat of the vehicle does not see what side of the armor has been damaged. It simply doesn't show anything.
• Viewing from remote controlled vehicles makes squad name tags disappear from certain angles. Making them look like they are the enemy.
• The MAV has no need to lock on the the equipment it can destroy. You can just press fire and it will get destroyed. And in fact the locking mechanism is broken just like the squad name tags. (can only lock on to the equipment from certain angles.)
• The laser designated missiles should be totally dependent on the designator. Once the laser has lost visual contact any incoming missiles should detonate mid air. This is to prevent the javelin from silently sneaking up on targets killing them in one go while the lock tone has already stopped.
• Battlerecorder, either like in previous titles, or clientside (source demo recorder)
• Viewing your own ping.
• Players should not be forced to exit their vehicles once they get in deep water. (some might want to go down with their ship)
• Player names should popup when aiming at the vehicle they are currently in. Not at the little triangle. Same goes for the body. (it can be quite difficult to find out who just drove away without you when you have to aim precisely at the small triangle.)
• Enable small, medium and large minimaps to scale the minimap and not zoom out making things only harder to see. Possibly enable both zoom and scale. This includes scaling the minimap icons. Because right now they stay the the same size.
• Add a sound que for the gunner/passengers when the pilot uses his countermeasure, and add one when it has been reloaded.
• Add a sound que for the pilot when the gunner uses his countermeasure, and add one when it has been reloaded.
• Move the objective capture indicator to somewhere more subtle.
• Add a shortcut to turn on/off of 3D makers.
• Add squad leader order markers, as in previous titles. (attack, defend, move here etc.)
• Move "Go, Go, Go" to the upper center of the commo rose. And move "Follow Me" to the bottom center.
I'm sure there are more of these issues. But please take note of these and do something with it!
I'm only bummed that you can't use the MAV as an elevator. Places like Strike At Karkand were perfect for that. It made sniping actually a threat. But snipers still suck unless you get headshots.
Mac elevators, detonating c4 after death, and long range stinger are all part f m playing style! If the famous only has 25 rounds in a clip, and the usas frag rounds have a decreased fire rate, then this is stupid.
And autocorrect is at it again
The only thing that upsets me about this patch…is that the SOFLAM's range is still crappy. Hopefully we can deploy it in better places and the fast laser lock-on makes a difference….
When will you give us the option to disable or change the opacity of player and flag names on the HUD? I personally don't need nor like useless information blocking my view, especially when surrounded by enemies while capping a flag or something…
Yeah I completely agree. The damn HUD is just in the way. I also think the minimap is too small and the "big" map is to small. Would be nice to see what firing mod you use on hardcore servers.
This is why Armed Assault, is such a nice game series… -.-' They support, 1 platfrom and 1 plaform only! Exactly, the platform that can run their game…!
This really pisses me off…
Wow really DICE?… Making a deal with the japs and their PS3, when you really should be supporting the only actual platform, that can run your damn game to the limit? What the f, DICE?
*Cough* PC B*tch *Cough*
You do realize Sony (Playstation) owns EA….PS3 is the best place to test the patch because of how easy it is to release a fix if there is something wrong in the file product. And if the general stuff doesn't work on PS3 you'd be screaming at them for not testing it first. Untested software on a computer could damage it so chill out.
Think of them as using the PS3 as a lab rat so you're not at risk.
I really don't wanna complain, but you make it really hard for me not to DICE! You first keep telling that al platforms get a simultanusely release, and then all of the sudden both PC and Xbox 360 have a bug that the PS3 doesnt have! Well i'm sorry i aint buying this crap (:! Its all about the moneyz and the deal you have with Sony! Well guys, you won a lot of awards with BF3, but they forgot to give you another one! Screw the Community and lie all the time to them award!
Oh god stop complaining please, do you realise how hard they're working to please the community? Yes there are still problems with the game, but that's pretty much always the case with big titles like these, that's why there are patches. Ofcourse there is money involved, but that's business…and that's why indie games are so great, they can often make games (near) perfect like Braid.
Or Journey, but even though it's an amazing game, there are still publishers and stuff involved with that.
Anyways, I agree with Ratchatcher, the game is not perfect, but rather than complaining you should compliment DICE for supporting, maintaining and updating the game post-launch like this, who cares if the release date gets pushed back a few days or longer (for xbox360 and PC) I'd rather wait a bit longer for a good big ass complete patch, than have a not so complete patch earlier.
I do really want a patch though :p
Also, you can't please everyone, you need to make choices and find a good balance. M00JUICE 5678 beneith me for example likes to use USAS FRAG rounds and likes to deploy C4′s after death, it suits his play style. But sadly he doesn't know that these things are nooby and annoying as hell for other players, a lot of players, and if A LOT of those players complain about it DICE will take notice and indeed fix it.
About the MAV elevator fix, I just liked to have fun with it and sometimes with friends and it could be handy, my only real complaint was people getting on the Tehran Highway bridge. But I'm okay with the fix :)
Thank's ….great game, but for the next time i wish to buy a game without bugs!! stop patch and fixes!!!
i want to buy a complete and nobugs games!
…sorry for my bad english ;-)
lolol, good luck ever finding a game without any bugs.
Newsflash, BF3 wasn't written by a fat kid in his bedroom. Modern games are produced in a development studio with hundreds of people working of different elements of the game. Bugs are just part of that process and full credit to DICE for maintaining and updating BF3. Bottom line? Cheats and glitchers hate patches but real gamers love them…
Please add TrackIR 5 support!!!!!!
Why they will not add Harcore Inantry mode?
The happiest news for me:
Unguided tank rounds and RPGs will now instantly destroy Jets, Attack Helicopters, and Scout Helicopters.
new claymore change sucks….
YESSSSS they added horns to all jeeps :)
the best new added feature ever xD
Actually the best new added feature ever would be playing music from vehicles.. like in BF Vietnam haha
I dont see the jumping into water fix anywhere??
A OFICIAL request for add the Battlerecord: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gJ6bavYaf8&feature=youtu.be
COME ON DICE!! ADD IT god damn it!
you know DICE…. if you would just have said WHY there is no PC/XBOX release date yet everybody would have been fine with that. It's the secrecy that makes people angry.
according to Gustav Halling's twitter:
"I already tweeted that there is a bug we need to fix on the xbox/pc patch that wasn't in the PS3 patch"
if that information was in this post everyone would have been fine, but it is not, for some reason all the information that is send out is " will come soon"
Really liking the changes and the product you guys are making, and i would not have supported any other game tough this BS.
Altitude limits are not going to be higher?
600m on Oman is too low. Every map needs 1000m.
It is absolutely crazy to read some of these comments!
"Just remove the USAS", "Remove the Recon Class!" "Remove the minimap!"
I think this is a GREAT patch, the game was perfectly enjoyable before, and these tweaks just freshes it up a little while providing some more interesting gameplay.
I especially like the chances to the air combat (also ground/air interaction). I have no idea if this is a *good* change or not, as I haven't played under the current patch, but I can defintely see the ideas DICE are going for, and I like them!
Why are people complaining so much? At least on PC, the game is running great, easy to use, and balanced enough that you can *always* outsmart an "idiot" with one of these infamous "over-powered" weapons. Just don't engage a USAS head on and expect to come out on top, that is not how a shotgun is suppose to work.
I don't need all this crap! I just want the damn usas-12 and frag rounds to be removed from the game!
totally agree but some fixes are very useful especially the first 6 at game play fixes! But a slightly less splash damage will not be enough to fix the USAS problem everybody is complaining about (except of the few ones playing this weapon)…
Ok theres some bs in this patch
1 aa missles do explode before hitting there target (to destroy the back of the plane and kill control)
2 are you fing kidding me a flash hider is heaver then a suppresser the suppresser is a peace of metal and sound obsorbing stuff (i dont know what its called) a flash hider is a peace of cut metal thats way lighter then the suppresser so how is the recoil supposto be dampend more with a light peace of metal WTF
Hey, they never said that the flash suppressor was heavier than the supressor. They said the flash supp. also worked as a RECOIL COMPENSOR. That's why it has a bigger recoil dampener effect. Know your shit before you argue.
Mass Effect 3 – Still a better ending than Battlefield 3 Patch
I see what you did there.
Nice try.
DICE, I like the changes in the patch, but to be honest, many of them (more than 50%) are 'trivial', in my opinion.
One of the most requested changes to the game has been ignored, yet again. That change involves a crucial, but very simple update on your part.
Players that want the mini-map to show enemy positions when firing, have the option of playing non-hardcore, but those of us who play HC exclusively DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.
If the mini-map must be kept in the game for the purpose of 2D spotting…..DO NOT SHOW ENEMY POSITIONS WHEN THEY FIRE IN HARDCORE, silencer or not! ONLY show them on the mini map if they are spotted by a MAV. I would say to just axe the map altogether in hardcore, but I realize it's necessity to the recon's 2D spotting ability. Also, by doing this, you'd make the recon's spotting much more important/exclusive. Right now, that's not the case, because people are showing up all over the place when they fire anyways.
For those of you who may respond to this by saying "just use the silencer/suppressor to stay hidden"………I shouldn't have to! I love the sounds of the weapons without suppressors, they have that visceral 'pop'. I also want the full range and damage of the gun as well and plus, I'm sure your sound designer wouldn't be that happy if all the gun sounds that you brilliantly sampled for the game…..just went to waste! What is the point in that?
THERE IS STILL A DISADVANTAGE IN USING A NON-SUPPRESSED WEAPON OF COURSE, and that is that my gun is loud and I can be HEARD by nearby enemies. So you see…. there is still a handicap/trade off in not using a suppressor, so this change wouldn't make them useless or obsolete. You should only be able to be heard, not seen on the mini-map as well.
Please, take a poll amongst hardcore players. I'm sure you'll find that this opinion is of the majority.
Why THE FU** do you guys hate snipers??? Just eliminate the damm recon class, am done with BF and DICE games if you guys do lower this class to crap (i got this game because of sniping in open field, wtf? Yes i do hate quickscopers 2 but dont ruin us true snipers because of them!!)
What the hell are you going on about? All they did was add a possibility for a one shot kill up close, they didn't nerf anything. So go blame your fail on other things, not this patch.
Quit blowing smoke dude.
You're a fucking idiot if you're gonna stop playing a game you like because of someone's opinion.
Keep sniping.
Start spotting.
Are you fucking kidding us DICE?The best thing in BF3 and you will ruined it.Laser guided missiles can be now distracted with flares oh comon!I know this game is also played by fat american whose cant use ECM jammer.I think I am done wih BF3 you are going to ruin this beatiful game.
I totally agree, this change should be excluded from the patch. It will ruin the biggest advantage of these missiles which are not so easy to unlock + you still have to find someone with SOFLAM. And now it should be useless? Flares are the first unlock in air vehicles, laser guided misiles for tank will unlock after 33200 MBT points…see the difference?
Yeah indeed, it's bullshit. Why else would you prefer Laser Guided Missiles instead of normal anti-air? Perhaps it's good to make flares distract javelins, but not the missiles fired from choppers.
Good, go get tape worm fool.
Nobody will miss you.
Nobody loves you.
How about increase all weapon damage in hardcore by 15%?
Ehm……….battlerecorder….. where is it??
Sony has a week advantage, it's an agreement with EA/DICE. $$$$$ :). Just wait dor next Tuesday.
Go away.
Nobody loves you.
What is wrong with you DICE ??? Release the patch for PC already, don't tell me "info will come soon".
You suck.
Nobody cares.
"More information on Xbox 360 and PC will come soon."
You better have real PC fix list. Bad Luck everywhere, performance crippled by november patch, bulletproof stair-rail (on some maps like Firestorm on C, Caspian on Anthena…), invisible walls on rocks, same applies to corners of buildings, and so on… The huge list above is not a patch, those changes are only gamebalance… 4 months, FOUR months and you came with this.
New minimap is a joke, I thought I would be finally able to look at whole map in almost fullscreen mode… It is funny you cant see clearly whole map nowhere in game. Because spawn map is so small I cant even believe it…
Press N to zoom out Minimap
Press M to view that minimap as a large pan image , thus viewing the full map
- And you called uself a PC gamer.
Thanks for the Patchlist DICE^ keep up the epic work.
Shut up. Nobody cares.
If you don't like what dice does then go boycot the game, loser.
Stop whining about the patch release date.
Nobody loves you.
where is Battle-recorder ?????
Please fix the Bipod problems, it seems like if i make the slightest movement (or my control stick hasn't returned to it's normal position yet) my guy unmounts his bipod, i would really hope to see that patched
I believe they did.
Did you not see it in the bipod section?
Please fix the major problem of not being put on the same team when joining as a squad. This is stupid that it's not on this list, it's a major problem on the consoles and no, joining a server does not fix the problem. I can't believe that it's being ignored. I see no point in buying any DLC for this game as there is no reason to play since I can't play a multiplayer game with my friends like it was advertised.
Please fix the radio beacon to spawn players in the direction the radio beacon was placed, rather than always North.
Scope glint? Why don't I see, 'Removed Scope Glint'? Modern scopes have special coatings reducing scope glint to nothing or covers to eliminate glint. At least add a special high powered scope or something.
it would make the game unfare, you cant have a sniper thats unseen because if they removed scope glint snipers would be unstoppable
There not unstoppable because we dont have ghillie suits now a ghillie suit and removed scope glint would make the recon unstoppable
It would over power sniping. There's no fun if there's no challenge. and if you go far away enough like real snipers, then the enemy can't see the glint.
Still no fix for aircraft landing gear deploying when doing low levels? It happens when I'm not even close to an air strip. It is, besides the low damage rate of weapons, the most frustrating thing for me no matter what I do to prevent it. Please add this too.
how about fixing the squad system and making it a clan system so that we can have an entire clan join a game instead of doing the whole flood an open server thing. Thankyou
While I do like most of the items in the patch (especially the PS3 input lag fix), most of them will be unnoticed by many players.
One of the things that bothers me about this game is the amount of on-screen HUD clutter. Please address this issue in the near future.
1. Please use the conquest flag capturing indicator that is in BFBC2. Do not bring up 'C – construction site' right in the middle of the screen just above the gun's sights, as it just obscures the player's view even more. Just stick with BFBC2′s audible 'ticking' meter at the bottom left of the screen.
2. Please reduce all icons and fonts by @25% for the console. Most people use larger screens these days and if you compare console to PC, it is noticeably smaller. This looks better and opens up the screen more. Can you mirror the sizes of the fonts/icons on PC over to the console and/or give the player two sizing options?
3. Please remove the names of the conquest capture points/flags (warehouse, docks, construction site, etc.) and just stick with A, B, D, etc. This does NOTHING for the player and it just clutters up the screen even more. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM IN COMMUNICATING TO MY SQUAD THAT "I'M CAPTURING B", for example. IMO, this is just extra font that obscures your view of more important things…….LIKE THE ENEMY!
4. Treat the way your squad's (green) name tags show, just as the other (blue) team mates, by that I mean don't show their name unless you point your sights directly at them. Just show their green kit icon (wrench, cross-hair, medic symbol/cross) to distinguish them from the rest of your friendlies.
5. Remove the squad leader icon (star) from the player, just leave it next to their name in the lower left squad list. This star should especially be removed from the other blue team member's names……..there's no point in knowing who the squad leader is in a squad that you're not in.
I realize some of these things may seem small, but I think you'll agree that collectively, they add up to a bunch of on screen clutter that obscures your view and detracts from the beauty of the game.
Very good ideas man. DICE please consider these amazing beauty enhancing ideas.
another great thing is to fix the thing where u join like gulf of oman or sharqi peninsula and u join conquest but there is no jets or helicopters
You might be playing CONQUEST Assault, which, in the search, is also hidden under the mode conquest.
now if we could fix the noob and people who suck problems we'd be set! :-)
It must be really annoying for you to play with people who are not as good as you ! people have to start somewhere…..i bet you are American.
So you (you, and the rest of the world) bitch at Americans for being fat and lazy, but then you bitch because they aren't as good on video games like you?? it looks like the world just needs someone to blame to make themselves feel better.
does anyone know how much is rent a server cost. Are you going to keep paying or just buy it.
And what about the BUG in the game from Colonel 83? ( no icon ) FIX IT DICE !!!!!
Let's see the article showing evidence of a deal being made..
Until you come up with something, go away.
Nobody likes you.
Wait your turn loser.
great job!
please fix destruction for 360 especially the trees!
no more rubber trees
If you're talking about with the planes they fixed it this match.
still no punkbuster fix huh?
You this update looks trez magnifique! Nice work guys I just read the whole thing and I have to say it looks like a lot of hard work and it looks great.
Awesome guys, unlike some of these other teenager losers who only have negative things to say I want to say thanks for making an awesome game and for continuing to support it with fixes and patches of feedback from the community!
DICE continues to piss me off. Looks like I will be boycotting this game even longer than I expected. A patch should be released through all systems the same day. This is ridiculous.
It's not going to take that long, jeez. Calm down
Feel free to boycott the game forever, I will not miss you!
Nobody cares.
Go away.
Nobody loves you.
What do you mean "coming soon"? Why is it taking extra time to get on PC and 360?
Just some queses. PS3 is one platform. It's setup in 1 way. On the other hand a PC can be setup in several different ways, and maybe there has been some bugs on the patch beacuse of this reason. So they are trying to fix it before release. Reason for XBOX is unknown even for guesses
Interesting tweet here:
That's life.
Ask Shirley temple…
It's a hard knock life…
game is out for 5 months and no patch yet? this is obnoxious, I'm tired of excuses and b.s.. WE ARE NOT IDIOTS IT SHOULD NOT BE TAKING THIS LONG. buggiest damn release i've ever seen for a damn game and still havent fixed major issues…then you're gonna rape our wallets on DLC thats taking too long as well…give us a break and release the damn patch already (360, PC)
There has been a few patches so your argument is invalid
15 bucks is gonna rape your wallet?
You should probably get a paper route then huh?
Go mow lawns, or rake yards while you wait for your patch to come out.
Quit your whining you spoiled little brat.
Wait your turn, or go away.
Nobody loves you.
plus, i thought the point of making origin over just using steam was to quickly put out a number of patches, why even bother making your own delivery service if you are going to continually delay something that was supposed to be out in february? and on top of that, still wait for console certification… they must think we are morons or something
Quit your whining.
It makes you sound like a moron.
So go away.
Nobody loves you.
Thanks DICE!LOVE from Italy!
No fix for the Mcom defender ribbon? Not that big of a deal, but thought it was mentioned before.
:( you've not fixed the way that when we're getting into a random game and server, after the connexion is established we see: "your team lost" … it's really annoying..
Need to fix the calculation of getting into a game, that's over, few seconds or couple minutes after.
LOL so PC PATCH waits for console and GETS DELAYED
And the world KEEPS TURNING.
You KEEP BREATHING.
Life goes on.
Quit whining and wait your turn.
Nobody loves you.
how i the name of god do you expect your consoles to be able to handle a battlerecorder without severly hindering your games performance? the game is already scaled down from its intended size to work on your worthless pieces of garbage you call a "console" for crying out loud! and for all of you threatening to leave and/or never buying any dice producs ever again, why dont you? we who acually want to play this game and who are genuinly glad that dice is releasing this patch rather have you leave the bf3 comunity then to constantly complaint about it, everything has its issues but its up to you how you decide to deal with them.
Because, the people who want battlerecorder are primarily composed of the consumers from their previous title, BF2. Thus, in other words, the PC players, who have more than enough power to handle Battle Recorder. That is why we feel robbed. Because the consoles were unable to handle the Battlerecorder and so they decided to remove it from the game, even for those of us who have the power to use it.
I see you must be a PC loser. You realize that in the end we are playing the same game on a $400 dollar box while you paid at least 1 grand to play a game. No everyone care's about playing games on a keyboard.. and if you are going to spend money on a gamepad you might as well get a console. I guess for a smart guy who thinks PC is the best, you sure are bad at math and have failed to realize that you have a small fortune invested.. solely for the purpose of playing a game. You must have no life… I have bills to pay, I play occasionally.. you can have your pc because the image looks shinier.. I just want to play the game.
Omfg, I see you haven't EVER tried the supreme controls that the combination of a KEYBOARD and a MOUSE gives you, huh? You can shove your crappy pad somewheere deep the light won't ever shine.
And most PC players don't give a shit about the game's con$ole versions cause for sooooooo many of us this was supposed to be the BF2^2, and BF2 (as its predecessors) were PC games. Now it seriously feels like DICE's become at least Sony's bitch. Can't stand it, it's just outrageous. But, I guess, money's more important than the people who'd really love this game.
And finally, I anyway enjoy the game, thanks DICE! The patch looks awfully nice, it just lacks much stuff :>
Who are you to determine who loves the game and who doesn't? Are you kidding?
Stop being so ignorant, wait your turn like everyone else.
If you played bf42 then you should be old enough to know that you're acting like a moron.
Cut it out with your whining.
Nobody loves you.
Really DICE delay the pc patch even more for no reason other than sony shoving money at you? Wow you are one of the shittiest companies now. congrats
Source that they are doing it for no reason?
Who knows what the reasons are, who cares. Don't shit your pants over a patch kiddie.
Wait your turn and stop whining.
Go away.
I'd like to have an option to make the minimap static, not rotating. Or is it possible somehow already?
it sure was in BF2. LOLOL
Wait a sec.
Dear DICE, when we were asking "why don't you release PC patch faster, we don't need to wait till console patch will be ready" – you said "we want to update game for all platforms at once." O_o
Now we were waiting for patch, because, as you said, of consoles, and now we see that you will update your game NOT at once for all platforms, where is the logic then?
Just can't get what you guys are saying, promising or thinking about community, we are not idiots.. u know…
What is this post..? Are you trying to out-witt these people?! Lol
They're obviously thinking about the community, they're releasing a patch.
If you can't handle the wait for this patch, then go play a different game for a while.
We won't miss you.
I don't know how many game have stated "X-box will get X a week ahead"
I'm cool with getting an update in the fist place.
I look forward to more updates and DLC, dice is favoring PS3, IDKY
But we'll get our updates, it's great letting EA\Dice know how we feel and I really think the community has made a difference
DICE… keep up the updates THANKS
There we go, at least you're just happy for an update.
Good attitude.
another delay, you're just great. It doesn't really matter why…
I'm still doing the blackout until the update is on Xbox…
Are people still not able to exit the lobby between games?
Is there a better way of joining a game rather than jumping ½ through the match?
Like a better modified lobby
I am able to exit the lobby between games
I HATE THE DAMN PILOTS! HOW THE HELL IM SUPPOSE TO GET BETTER AT FLYING IF I CANT TOUCH IT OR FLY 4 MORE THAN 1 minute and 30 secs! THERE SHOULD BE A PRACTICE MODE! AND ITS UNFAIR vhicle n00bs dont get good enough weapons to support them >.>
In one way there is, first of all there is the Co-OP map for attack heliopter flying. For the second you can play on unranked empty 1p start maps to test and fly
I'm getting tired of hearing people tell me there are servers that don't exist on XBOX. Were in the hell do you find a 1 player start server??? WHERE and HOW.. if you are going to tell us usefull information GIVE US COMPLETE Information.
Yes we need an offline mode
I'd prefer a split screen or a system link mode
Play co-op
inside dice?
the real reason DICE won't release the mod tools is because they don't want the community to make a better game than them…
Pwned! They are scared, because we the community, are not hungry money eaters, and therefore de modders can create a better game, with the vets in mind!
You may just be letting your imagination run away with you.
This is what they do for a living.
Just from what I've experienced so far here, I think they're doing a pretty good job…
• For the love of god please make the minimap icons smaller! The minimap is already getting cluttered with icons as it is.
• The TV missile should get tweaked to allow for better maneuverability.
• Is the MAV getting fixed? Right now squad mate names will not show up when you look into a certain direction.
• Commo rose still looks unpractical. Go, Go ,Go should be in the top center and follow me should be in the bottom center.
• Flares should not distract laser guided missiles. Instead they should loose lock when the laser has no more visual on the target. ECM should also break the lock because it will break/disturb visual contact.
I AGREE with everything 1st-Mora said especially the laser guided comment. Flares should not disrupt a Laser Guided rocket because the rocket is LASER DESIGNATED and is not locked on by looking for heat like a heatseaker. But if the laser looses sight of the vehicle then the lock should break. Having flares disrupt the laser missiles is bad because that means a skilled helicopter team will own the battlefield. Sometimes a laser guided rocket is the only way to take down really skilled heli pilots or at least scare them off for a bit. If they can flare everything out of the way and the pilot is raeally good at maneuvering the chopper then that heli team is gonna own everything.
While I do like most of the items in the patch, most of them will be unnoticed by many players.
One of the things that bothers me about this game is the amount of on-screen HUD clutter. Please address this issue in the near future.
1. Please use the conquest flag capturing indicator that is in BFBC2. Do not bring up 'C – construction site' right in the middle of the screen just above the gun's sights, as it just obscures the player's view even more. Just stick with BFBC2′s audible 'ticking' meter at the bottom left of the screen.
2. Please reduce all icons and fonts by @25% for the console. Most people use larger screens these days and if you compare console to PC, it is noticeably smaller. This looks better and opens up the screen more. Can you mirror the sizes of the fonts/icons on PC over to the console and/or give the player two sizing options?
3. Please remove the names of the conquest capture points/flags (warehouse, docks, construction site, etc.) and just stick with A, B, D, etc. This does NOTHING for the player and it just clutters up the screen even more. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM IN COMMUNICATING TO MY SQUAD THAT "I'M CAPTURING B", for example. IMO, this is just extra font that obscures your view of more important things…….LIKE THE ENEMY!
4. Treat the way your squad's (green) name tags show, just as the other (blue) team mates, by that I mean don't show their name unless you point your sights directly at them. Just show their green kit icon (wrench, cross-hair, medic symbol/cross) to distinguish them from the rest of your friendlies.
5. Remove the squad leader icon (star) from the player, just leave it next to their name in the lower left squad list. This star should especially be removed from the other blue team member's names……..there's no point in knowing who the squad leader is in a squad that you're not in.
I realize some of these things may seem small, but I think you'll agree that collectively, they add up to a bunch of on screen clutter that obscures your view and detracts from the beauty of the game.
3) NO, NO NO! The flags should never have been called A/B/C, thats a Bad Company thing / console thing. In real BF-games its names of the flags, and it means something for the immersion! ;) :D
whats about player ping in game tap ????
PC doesn't have to go through certification and yet is possibly being released after the PS3? Silly.
What's silly is the amount of seemingly teenage/ grown men who can't wait for a patch.
I learned to wait my turn in kindergarten.
Dunno about some of you though…
Don't do this! I am pregnant !
Seriously!? OMG you mad!
will have some optimization in the game?
since the last patch I leave the game harder!
honestly my main concern and if the new patch will be truly a salvation in performance and optimization for pc
another complaint!
the team opponent can kill you and you relive it again and very boring!
RUSH mode the M320 gun should have some improvement in the sense of damage depending on the distance q could kill with two shots until that little map that gun operation meters and horrible
I liked most of the enhancements to repeat optimization pc would be better for low end video cards have a game and runs well on low to give more get more!
and finally I'm from Brazil and ping in some rooms and in other high and low I do not understand this variation ping sometimes high sometimes low! and this normal?
a fan of the Battlefield series to DICE / EA thanks for attention!
The server ping is (Without looking at your internet half) about where the server is located. When you host a server you can choose different locations.
Why are PC players getting the shaft again having to wait for consoles? What the heck guys..it's not like we can play against them anyway so why should we have to wait for them to get the doggone patch anyway? It's not like it's new content or something–it's a patch full of game fixes and tweaks right?
F*ck me?
It's called money, you probably learned some of it in social studies
Just deal with it.
It's not like you'll never benefit from this patch.
If they read this lasts comments they'll start to think they are doing a great job. DICE, read the FIRSTS pages….this is EPIC sad. You'r joking to the PC platform. WHEN you'll add the things we are saying to you? (battlerecorder, spectator mode, etc)?! really, WHEN? this game is dying….
You mean you and like 3 other guys?
Get real.
Stop your whining.
Go away.
Nobody loves you.
your mom was here !
Bi*ch please
The minimap should show the Flag characters. I want to know which flag is attacked -.-
Look at the bottom left and see what blue square that is blinking.
Those changes are fine and dandy but are you going to give us back some hardcore servers that dont switch game modes like all the ones we have now? The only new server on hardcore that doesnt switch is "Epic Battles" sense every map on it is CQ. What about all the players that play Hardcore and want to play just TDM, SQDM, SQRush, or Rush without switch gamemodes.
If your not going to give us any then how much to purchase or rent a server? So I can just host it myself giving that part of the community what it wants.
All servers that are out there are rented from EA/DICE. What I know, they don't have any server themself hosted. To rent a server, just google search. There is quite a few different websites that got Battlefield servers for rent
sweet cant wait for the 27
This is a great list of changes guys. It would still be great to be able to back out of games during the splash screens between games. I would also love to see better handling of squads on console, possibly even a "platoon" of up to 3 squads option before joining a server.
Chuj ci w biedra hAhAha
Agreed! ^-^
DICE and Rockstar Games=Legendary!
GTA V and BF3 BEST OF THE CENTURY!
If you mean quit the server when you are on the score screen between 2 maps, then it is just press 'ESC' and then exit
I Chuj.
It's been mentioned many times, but I have to ask.
This is a question to dice :
After having a fully implemented commo rose in bf2, pg up affirmative, and pg down negative, with battlerecorder , with voip, with custom squads … You had all of these things in the last version of BF2 released.
Why were they not put into BF3? You clearly saw the success they had, so why would you not take the feautures that worked in the battlefield franchise and carry them on ?
You've had no problem recyling wake island for every game (Even though it doesn't fit every battlefield game) but yet the tried and true features that people critically aclaimed you for, you left out ?
Why ?
You always have the Ammo bag as support. It's always your '3′ . You can't pick anything else. There is zero excuse support players have for not dropping ammo, dice made it this way for a reason.
Medics also can't get rid of the defib , ensuring two things
Support – Can ALWAYS give you ammo
Assault – Can ALWAYS revive you.
You don't "need" med bags, as even if you die, you can be rezzed, but you do need ammo boxes, as they are literally the only source of ammo in the whole game, and again, there is no reason you shouldn't be dropping those things like crazy.
The problem with the minimap wasn't the detail. It was that you couldn't open the whole map by pressing 'M' and get a detailed view over the battlefield. The new commo rose looks good though.
Generally happy with the updates to be rolled out, but Claymores should be allowed to persist after death just like an anti-tank mine. I would even be willing to accept only having one deployable Claymore at a time if it meant "keeping it real," if you will.
It's a little worrisome that I don't see colorblind mode. Please tell me it's coming out for consoles in this patch…
I dont know but i didn't read any fix for the call for ammo or medic, lag or bug, where you have to shoot to people to caugh his attention because you do not yell nothing to them when pressing the select button (PS3)
Really its not that broken, most the time its because they don't have the AMMO bag equipped or the medic bag for Assaults. What they need to do is have a Commo-rose like the PC so you can just call out and leave the icon on the map. I understand your pain tho, I spam select quiet a lot.
If this patch fix the problems,
the next one should be for Adding features to enhance the players gameplay.
Here are suggestions:
-Battlerecorder (I would like to view my greatest matches ;D)
-The ability to choose (in options settings) to veiw a killcam or default [seeing the person who kill you.
-How about the feature to see who made Final Kill ( Dnt need to be Final Kill Cam)
-Spectators veiw
-Something that shows the Top Players in match like Bad Company 2
-Kool Commands xD
For Consoles: PS3 and X-Box
Yeah sure. That's we suggested since the launch of this game….still dreaming dude, THIS IS DICE. They don't listen us.
Yes they do, why you feel they spent their time giving console users the Rent-a-Server feature???
Ooooohhh, wow! great job!! now, seriously, that's for make some money dude, WAKE UP.
If they don't listen to us, then what about the patch list? A lot of this shit has been huge problems for me, and many more people. It's not like you're the only person sending in shit to them to fix. look at their twitter page for a day and count how many people they reply to. They're listening, just not to imposing bastards who whine and complain about little things that dont matter a lot (that's you). Look at all the shit they fixed, and if they didn't care then why would they patch BF3? Oh, and the "Rent-a-server" was implemented because of popular demand. The "rent" part of the "rent-a-server" is to pay for the server being up and running; yes, running servers cost money. It's not a scam or a way to rip people off, its a way for people to buy a server, and pay to keep it running, and then a little bit more so they can add more servers or fix broken ones. Don't like what they do? Don't play the game.
Well done guys.Looking forward to seeing how the new hud and cammo works out.Certainly looks a lot clearer.
I just have to hope the map change bug will be gone.
It's necessary we must do some campaing like the Mass Effect 3 for DO THE RIGHT JOB? Men, this is a joke!
You make me laugh. Why dont you find a way to make audio spotting work instead of complaining. To me it is a good future. It makes you stay alert and not slack off. Also its not telling you EXACTLY where the person is, its WARNING YOU!
Ratzo90 have all the reason. This game can be PERFECT. But DICE, YOU and only YOU are broken this game. Without a spectator mode, without a battlerecord, without mute players, etc.
This game can be better than COD:MW3. But seriously, ACTIVISION are doing a great job for make the new COD stay like a king in PRO GAMING. The people is waiting for play this game in a HIGH level. But i repeat myself, YOU and only YOU DICE, are destroying this game without add the things we are yelling to you since the launch of this game.
Right now: COD:MW3 > BF3
You are a few more are yelling. That is like 0.00001% of the BF3 community
I have a basket of friends that play mw3, I used to play it too.
Battlefield is by FAR a better experience that cod in my opinion.
If you like cqc, then wait for the dlc.
Go play mw3 in your downtime.
Or learn to snipe.
Once you get past the syd and mk11, the rifles are pretty sweet.
Look, I know nobody cares about squad deathmatch, but couldn't you have fixed it so you can… JOIN A SQUAD?
Fanboys make me laugh. DICE doesn't need you to defend them from critics. Really. They are big boys. They are product and service providers. We are their customers. When someone charges money for something, the person paying may have reasonable expectations of performance.
1 minor patch for a game that crashes as often as it runs is not meeting those expectations. They can get rid of complaints by simply fixing the product. Game play & balance are important but not as important as the game simply not working.
If they took the satisfaction of the customers seriously instead of pretending like they "Nailed It!" the customers would GENERALLY be less upset. Of course the internet brings out the nasty in some folks….. flamers and trolls are easy enough to ignore….
I'll take 10 trolls over 1 fanboy any day though.
Dude, if you're complaining about when a patch is going to be released, and for which specific platform it's gonna be released for, you're just as big of a troll as the guys commenting on your posts telling you to stop whining.
Did you ever stop to think about the amount of suggestions coming out of these forums?
You seriously want them to fix EVERYTHING?
Be real, there's literally NO WAY to keep EVERYBODY happy, it's impossible.
Even if you have some legitimately decent suggestions (not saying you do) your voice is being drowned out by everyone else's ridiculous demands.
What it comes down to is this.
everybody is going to have things they like, and things they don't like about everything.
If you think you're a genius developer, then go develop a game as awesome as any of the battlefield games, much less bf3.
Stop complaining.
Go away.
GOLDFISHFACE your comments becoming really irritating. If you are a DICE employee then I can understand your behaviour. Otherwise please STOP commenting everything with your stupid selfish ideas. Go and make some USEFUL comments at INSIDE DICE to help the developers if you are interested in this franchise. If you don't have any useful thoughts please not flood this forum. Thank you.
Are you shitting me?
"We want to release on all platforms at once" / " We are waiting for approval from Sony/Microsoft" Meanwhile, The PC-patch was rdy to launch (BEFORE they sent in the console versions for approval), and now you decide "bah let's F our players, we will push it out on PS3 now, and just ignore the PC/360 player-base"
SO congrats, I -was- looking forward to this patch due to the tremenduos ammount of fixes/additions, but now, not so much.
Thanks for F'ing us over:)
Don't start making up facts without knowing them. I don't know them either but I am pretty sure they didn't delay the PC patch beacuse they wanted to mess with us
You PC Elitists are a plauge.
There are more battlefield players than just guys on pc.
Get over it.
Read the post, move on.
Nobody cares about your negative opinion.
If I worked at dice, I would seriously screw you pc elitist dicks over out of spite constantly.
I would only pay attention to the constructive criticism.
Stop whining you child.
You'll get your treat.
Calm down.
As everyone is only throwing bad stuff at you guys at EA/DICE, I decided to write some words from another BF3 player.
Can't wait until the patch hits for the PC client, but I don't mind waiting a few more days for it and I really looking forward for the changes this patch brings us.
To all you guys who flame EA/DICE. Changes you have mentioned isn't needed to make the game good, it is already good. A few of you are writing that you are gonna leave Battlefield 3 beacuse of the "crap" they do, but do you know? You are welcome. YOU ARE WELCOME TO LEAVE IT. Damnit, I am so tired to hear your boring talk and empty threats. Either you play the game, or you don't. Make up your mind…
Well said.
The voice of reason over here..
What about tac lights and lamp posts?
Question, since flares do not stop locking and the trick is to flare as the missile comes. Has this Changed for smoke on tanks too? I ask because smoke shouldn't throw off a missile. And with locking times being shorter now this looks like a bad update for tanks.
Since nothing has been said about tanks I understand that it will stay the same. The IR-smoke will still break the lock on missilies for tanks.
My guess is that the smoke will continue to throw people off visually. Not through equiptment.
U kidding us ? I mean, seriously -.-
Ye Do you have to fool us?
Everyone knew this was going to be mainly a bug fixes/balancing patch. Only thing killing BF for PC fans is the fans own ignorance to that fact. Fact of the matter is that they didn't need to do anything with this patch with additional features, but look whose getting them… PC. Besides you cannot fix all the problems with a game at once, if you try you cause more damage then fix. They've already patched more times then most games do in there lifetime, DICE don't change a thing and keep on working toward a better game.
Hold on, wait a second. The "whining" PC players are missing the features like squad-ingame VOIP, battlerecorder, spectator mode, new commo-rose etc. which were ALREADY IMPLEMENTED 7 YEARS AGO in another DICE product called Battlefield 2, then in the successor Battlefield 2142. How in the hell is it even possible to NOT include those features in a newer game (BF3) , and why they left those out?!
First, we PC gamers, will wait console for patch.Now go out first on ps3?SERIOUSLY?
I go to sell my bf3 account after read this.
I'm BORING DICE to read ever console over pc.
This is a real successor of Bf2?
Good morrow young sir.
Sell your entire machine while you're at it, buy a ps3 before tomorrow and you'll have nothing to cry about.
If that isn't your plan, then go complain about what big meanies the devs are for not giving you your patch first.
Cry damnit.
cya tomorrow when your gonna whine some more then bud
I hope the new commo rose and mini map is working as intended, but I'm really glad you do something about it. It was needed when I start to play the beta.
Audio spotting not removed! Still will not start playing again after the patch.
Good, get outta here.
And DICE thought PC sales were low on THIS game compared to consoles. Wait til next game folks….
Look BF3 is a brilliant game in concept.. it is just broken. Most of the things on your patch notes are inconsequential…. there are real serious issues with the working of the game for many PC owners. These are the people who MADE you DICE. Remember BF1942? Remember the mods that made that game so popular for so long? None of that came from console. We love your game and we really want to play it… it is just broken. So fix the thing and then worry about how much a gun drifts with or without the stupid attachments….
I remember when I was ticked about having to install Origin…. lol… I seriously thought that was going to be the worst of it all.
Yet here we are, the patch is coming out for what platform tomorrow?
Ps3 that's right.
Oh! No! Life isn't fair?! But wai!?!
Dude be quiet.
Bf3 is a great game. On all platforms.
If you don't like this game, then don't.
It's a game. Just a game.
Not your life.
Go away with all this crying.
I agree
Are you jokin me PC is the lead plataform and EA/DICE realese the update first for PS3…. amazing how DICE kill BF PC fans.
PC was never the lead platform. They lied true their arses to keep sales.
Go away.
Nobody loves you.
You suck.
Still no fix for rank glitch once you hit 83 colonel?
Yeah, good job, now remove Andrew Byron's voice out of the game. I don't care if you paid him and those retarded middle-eastern russian-speaking guestworkers in money.
Get Grezneff and his crew to do your Russian voices, you crooked money-grabbing EA people.
So many amazing ethnic voice actors they have, and you settle down for some idiots?
Screw you.
listen to this guy right here
Hahaha, you're the shit.
Fixes/additions missing from the list:
-Battle recorder
-Spectator mode
-Tanks stuck on roof tops (example Karkand C flag)
-Lav needs more ground clearance
-Tanks are disabled until fully repaired
-Capturing a flag. The progress meter lags badly some times
-Get rid of client side hit detection and implement true dedicated servers
-Improve spawning. You should spawn the furthest away from danger
-Pc patches need to be released as soon they are ready and not wait for consoles.
Totally. We must post this in their facebook and twitter..is the only way we have for make some noise, this is shameful
moneys wins again
PC and 360 soon? Are you serious? Dice, you have become royal crap.
Need ammo?
Also, why release the patch for PS3 first? It's not a DLC, is it? Or maybe it is and it will cost €14,99 as well…
PC-Leadplatform? Are you serious?
replied about that earlier. Xbox has more sales the PS3 and PC combined
No, consoles outsell PC…
And frankly, they just seem to be better people in my opinion, all of these PC elitists bitch and moan all day long.
Deal with it bro, ps3 gets the PATCH first.
It's no wonder dice isn't ontop of all these posts..
I would be ashamed…
Please STOP this "consoles outsell the PC" speach. EVERYONE knows that they do. But all of these people who are saying "PC is the lead platform" are doing nothing more but QUOTING DICE. Because the developers told this bullshit at the development phase. Now you know it also.
An addition to the previous comment:
"DICE say that the PC is the "lead platform" for Battlefield 3, but that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions won't disappoint players when the game is released next month, as each version plays to the strengths of its respective format." – http://beefjack.com/news/battlefield-3-pc-is-lead-platform-but-xbox-360-ps3-versions-wont-disappoint/
But this is the shame:
"DICE: Lead platform in Battlefield 3 switched to consoles mid-development" – http://tbreak.com/megamers/44552/news/dice-lead-platform-in-battlefield-3-switched-to-consoles-mid-development/
is it gonna kill you wait a little bit, stop being such a puss
what i think is that pc is for GAMERS, who have nothing else to do but play, and if they say its better, ok, i still prefer social life and ps3 than just pc, it also cheaper
Would have been nice to add back the PGUP / PGDW keybinds for Affirmative / Negative like in BF2… oh but I forgot, you don't care about PC users anymore. Con$ole$ is obviously what you guys care about now. Go ahead ruin the franchise that PC gamers made so popular.
And NO VOIP???? really DICE??? Such a let down guys (but what else is new right?)
Cooool Thanks for the patch DICE!!!! I like to see them coming thanks for the time the team puts in to make the game better. Latezzzzzz BF# 3 is badazzzz
Where the hell are Battlerecord and Spectador Mode?
Wouldn't spectador mode allow more "cheating" – player friend is in spectador mode while player is in the match, and the friend can help him out over skype?
Is this the complete list for the server side of the patch?
So no better RCON support?
NO VIP Slots?
NO Mute?
NO player say?
Heavily disappointed if that's the case…
I can't even recall a time when I've been looking forward to a patch coming out. Anyways, as much as I am looking forward to it, what about some of these bugs/glitches to address? For me personally:
-game occasionally freezes when loading
-screen flickers green at times
-cross hairs get switched between my primary and secondary
-spawning with NO weapons!
-throwing a grenade while sprinting (PS3)
Can it be that you got CF or SLI? It can cause green flicker if I understands right (I am not 100% sure about it).
i had the grenade issue too. it was my controller. took it apart and cleaned it with a cotton ball and rubbing alcohol. word of warning: it's a bit of work to reassemble it
If you hold L2 and R1 at the same time you can hold your gernade
Finally! I love you DICE :D
That's the spirit.
Thank you for doing something for the PS3 input lag on YOUR end finally! I sincerely appreciate it!
problem is…. you are sacrificing your good resolution for it
So you're totally okay with more jaggies (no AA) in exchange for a control that should've been input-lag-free from the very beginning? That's funny.
no voip, no recorder, no spectator but we got loads of uncalled for tweaks to weapons and vehicles and f all else and the piss box 3 gets it first? EPIC!
Battlefield is truely dead.
ea/dice you guys have fallen so far it's not even funny.
lol, little whining bitch
Go away then, nobody loves you.
You're an ugly person, characteristically.
looking at your nickname here i can see why no one would even consider taking your comment seriously, xbox 360 get's it first..big deal..alot of other games ps3 get's things first, and pc is first to get patches in MOST games anyway, so why not let xbox get it this time, and also..it's not the end of the world..yet
PS3 gets it first not xbox dumbass
That is funny because with all the call of duty games xbox bobbed the knob so well they always got everything first No love for the PS3 even though it is cheaper and better in every way
Wait ! WHAT? i was told this morning they announce patch dates?
really?? then why did you bother commenting here?
Haha, foreal.
Wait Wait Wait. I thought the (stupid) arrangement was that ps3 got DLC a week before everyone else? Why dio they get a freaking patch early too? DICE you guys are really losing your touch.
And yet, you'll still get the patch! It's amazing!
Seriously man, you're acting like a preschooler whining over another child getting their apple juice before you..
I really hope you take some time at a later date to reflect on you stupid you really do look, and sound.
If you're gonna hate, then go away.
Until the patch comes out for PC.
Have you heard abou money? it buy many things, including early patches, ps3 paid more, they get ir first
ye nice, no spectator mode no recorder and the minimap still looks like a blue sh..
i wanna mean, CLAP Dice, CLAP. /irony off
hooray! love you guys. don't listen to all the whiners.
GREAT JOKE! I can't see the Battlerecord and the PC version (who is the MAIN platform of this game) is delayed?! Claim DICE, a great CLAIM.
Just done some looking and sales for Battlefield 3 on the XBOX has sold more then PS3 and PC combined….so PC is not the main platform. If you think its so easy to please, go get your degree in game programing, get a job at Dice and fix it yourself.
LOL, PC elitists make me laugh, it's not delayed, it's just that PC doesent get much cashola from PC than from consoles ….. so basically, you are useless
Yeah bro, check your facts..
Consoles outsell PC every day of the week.
Stop whining or go away.
Nobody loves you.
My god. A console that can barley play this game will get the patch first. Awesome.
It's only like a week's difference. It's not like the patch includes new content, it's just tweaks, so you won't be missing out on much
Umm… Sorry bro, but why should PS3 players get the patch first? They've explained restrictions on patching the XBOX, but there are [i]no[/i] restrictions on the PC. At all. And apparently the XBOX is delaying the PC patch? @.@
No, what they really mean is SONY's bribing to get new content first also applies to patches. Which is bollocks.
Sony aren't bribing them, its just dice prefer to work with the ps3.
Kinda like Activision and Xbox. CoD players on XBL get their map packs 1 MONTH earlier than PS3 & PC. I'm glad it's just a weeks difference for BF3.
lol, PC elitists make laugh
Hahaha seriously.
Finally the Patch, great job :P
LOL… what more can I do but laugh. Don't worry the next time you guys release something for sale I'll be buying it "soon"……
good one less fatty out of bf3 no1 cares u whiny lil girl
I'm bored tonight so for some reason i'm spending time on this board and replying randomly to people. your profile pic shows you look a maturish age..how come such a reaction to the patch ?
You will… You might make a big ol stink on some dumb forum, but god knows you'll be buying the new DLC's the day they come out for your platform… Lemme guess PC?!?!?
And on the EXTREMELY off chance you're not just blowing smoke, dice doesn't care. Lol why would they? What do they have? Like 15 MILLION players? What's one less buying a map pack… Get real kid…
You guys are missing the point. Ratzo90 is simply poking fun at the title of the post (Which I also find very funny) that a company as big as DICE/EA with a game as big as BF can have a scheduled release date of "soon"!. As in there are no scheduled dates. C'mon he's just having a dig. Don't get so serious.
Thank god PC is lead platform…. JK
This is rediculous.
Great news :-)
PS3 before PC, incoming shitstorm!
There's probably some very good and logical reasons why DICE decided to release the patch on PS3 first. No doubt to do with testing patch elements BEFORE it was released to PC. Do you really think they released the PS3 patch first just to piss off PC users? Please.
What the… what is that odd shape for the commo-rose?
Can't you just make it exactly like BF2? With Go Go Go at the top and so own.
Good News.. Thanks
PS3 wins again. I bet it's not here before the end of the month. this is.. a joke
Cut it out… I hope you're like 15. How're you seriously gonna get bummed out over a patch coming out for a different platform first..
Grow the fuck up.
wow! That's soon. Great work, guys.
The corrections are so useless. Everything remains the same.
I never buy any new DICE game again.
Everything stays the same ?? Apart from the huge list of tweaks and changes listed I guess
We're all gonna miss you.
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