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34 comments:
- toomanytribbles said...
i don't understand how someone would want this.
i much prefer the responsible camaraderie of equal relationships than this juvenile need for a father-figure to take all the hurt away.
- June 7, 2009 at 5:48 AM
- Sabio Lantz said...
John, I deeply appreciate your honesty !! Any movie about father-son relationships where there is misunderstanding and then acceptance and forgiveness is also a tear-jerker for me. If we don't or didn't have a real dad to provide such love, an imaginary Dad is the next best thing for us. We get tears when we imagine the happiness of a deep relationship with our fathers whether it is via the movie or a Christian god. And if you were lucky enough to have such a parent, the memory of that bond can bring tears.
The heart is what makes the person, our beliefs are mere clothing. A real loving relationship with understanding and forgiveness is what we can offer others. I remind myself to give to my son now so as to help him avoid a future where his only connection to an accepting loving parent is imaginary.
- June 7, 2009 at 6:27 AM
- Harry McCall said...
In an ancient and medieval worlds where the mean age for both men and women were about 30 and where most died in child birth or before 20, the fatherly love and hope promised by Christianity was the illusion that caused it to win out over its religious competitors.
Hope does not have to be true, it only needs to be hope.
- June 7, 2009 at 10:36 AM
- Gandolf said...
Hard times sure remind us of the importance of family dont they John.
That video sure is aimed at plucking the heart strings, with the "father figure"suggestion of some God isnt it.
I think as we evolved human survival left us naturally feeling sad when those very close to us are gone.Numbers of family and tribe we have connected with having strength and our better well being etc.
Im guessing even (most) folks who are not really even that close to any real family,still have this feeling of needing a tribe or some type of connection to some group for support etc.
And the idea of this father figure shown in the video would maybe even be fine if it actually helped.But with so many splits and separate religious faith divisions having happened since the supposed Adam and Eve ,im wondering how it can be considered to be really so beneficial??.
Ive heard people talk about how studies have concluded that much of societies ill`s seem to point to connections to the general break down in society of the family unit or "tribe" thats happened.
Like faith believers all so often splitting and dividing time and time again for thousands of years over trying to translate some ancient superstitious incoherent rant all the same way but never being able to!, is really likely to generally be helping the human family unit??.
Yeah right !.....Not :(
I suggest many folks chewed over and spat out in the long past by these many faiths with such rigid often non compromising beliefs,has really helped break down the importance of the family unit in society in general.As even people who have actually managed to escape them still carry on a certain amount of this nastiness learned, introducing it more and more into society even whether they actually continue with any faith belief or not.
Should we really be expecting some bloke in the street that societies some how has allowed to be taught that even those around you all to often are to really be so expendable,to always have a love for people and not be robbing raping and even killing ??.
I cant see why?.
And the worst problem i sadly see with this predicament we now find ourselves in is how fast humanity will ever be able to move on from this.Because lets face it its not really going to be easy,im only guessing John but it seems to me that even you maybe might be feeling pressures in some ways coming from those folks you naturally still love but who still feel a need to try to pull any string they can find to break ya down and have you return.
Bruce who post here sometimes i think has maybe also felt the religious sword that seeks to weaken those that dare question.
Its not like its really so uncommon.Ive seen it working many many times.
- June 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM
- Jim said...
That video was some seriously sappy adolescent boyish fantasy.
And you wonder why women lament, "Where have all the real men gone?"
A lot of them never grew up and are stuck in eternal boyhood--never maturing into adult men. They're selfishly clamoring for a daddy figure who loves them and accepts them instead of maturely accepting the world as it is and recognizing that it is up to them to make it a better place--God surely ain't gonna do it.
Notice how in the song, it was all about him (the singer)? Sorry, no tears from me. All I thought about was how happy this guy was that God ran to him--ignoring the fact that God did NOT run to help the typhoon victims, children born with childhood diseases that suffer and die early, child abuse victims, etc.
I have come to the conclusion that Christianity is pure adolescent selfishness. Old boys and old girls stuck in childhood.
The world needs mature, adult men and women who will work to improve the lot of all humans--not sappy, wishful childhood thinking.
Real humans--doctors, scientists, engineers, chemists, entrepeneurs, et al have historically improved real human lives--songs like this have not saved one child from disease. (But it's probably made $$$)
- June 7, 2009 at 12:28 PM
- sfwc said...
Your post struck home for me; I also wish the gospel were true but can't believe it. I know it is hard, and I admire you for being prepared to share this with us.
- June 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM
- goprairie said...
the good things that happen to us in life are because of other people and the basic inherent instinctive way that we care for each other. it should remiind us to cultivate existing relationships and welcome new relationships. with real poeople. there is no god to do any of that and to seek it from a god is only endless disappoint or pathetic pretend play. the only place it is is in real people.
- June 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM
- Jason said...
If I wanted one of these Religions to be true, it certainly wouldn't be the Christian version. I would have to go with perhaps a Buddhist reality or something along those lines. Although, A Scientologist reality could be interesting
- June 8, 2009 at 9:54 AM
- sunmosthigh said...
The pic at the end is the same as the huge pic in the lobby of (gay) Ted Haggard's church in Colorado Springs before his "downfall". It was discovered that many of his chosen art pieces were of a male/gay/sensual nature. This was one of them - the one of Jesus holding the "sexy" man with exposed belly.
- June 8, 2009 at 12:15 PM
- Michael said...
(Sorry if duplicate entry. The latter is more up to date)
Hi John,
Thanks for the email reply. Interesting blog, here. I too, appreciate your candor.
TMT and Goprairie,
Indeed, what a joy is that fellowship of peers and relationships with fellow human beings you mention.
But the specialness of the song & vid, was not just the Father who took the hurt away, but the One Who also loves us in spite of our selfishness and wayward ways and who welcomes us back when we turn to Him! Oh, that we can love and forgive like that!
Gotta hand it to ya, partner. You are SO right about people being divisive. Because of it, I went through a period of disheartenment in my faith. It turned out to be a great blessing for me, b/c around year 2000, it made me take my eyes off men and fix them on Jesus; the One and Only; the Prince of Peace. And how beautiful it is to find a church that focuses on Him, rather than trivial issues!
I've also concluded that many of the "splits" are just preferential stuff. A lot of churches with minor differences in doctrine and practice bear no animosity for each other and will cooperate to accomplish wonderful, humanitarian things for the Lord.
Regarding "Christian" misbehavior; anyone can pay lip service, but are such people really His? Didn't Jesus give the world the right to determine who His real followers are by their acts of love?
I too, wonder where all the real men have gone. It seems the fatherlessness of our society is deteriorating the very fabric of it. Check out the fatherless connection to the rising stats since the early 70's on: sexual abuse/activity, drug & alcohol abuse, mental illness, suicide, academic performance, teen pregnancy, criminality and early death. So whether adolescents want a father-figure or not, the evidence suggests they NEED one.
I cannot level criticism at most of the Christian fathers I've known. They are unselfish, sacrificing, family men and have my IMMENSE respect and admiration. May God help me be like them.
To all,
I know the gospel sounds too good to be true - too fantastic. ESPECIALLY when people who supposedly accepted it treat others like dirt; like hypocrites.
But always recall, that if you feel the need for God's forgiveness and transforming power in Jesus Christ, IT'S STILL THERE!!
What if I looked at thousands of pornographic imgages? Still there. Stole a bunch of money? Still there. Cheated on my spouse? Still there. Said and wrote terrible things about Him? Still there. Convinced others to abandon Him? The name, Saul of Tarsus sound familiar? It's still there. Make no mistake, when we decide to repent of sinful behavior and turn to Him, He WILL receive us. Wanna see God run? You know what to do. He doesn't change. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.
I'm in Colorado Springs. Tell me if there's anything I can do for you. Meanwhile, here's another magnificent song called "A Better Way" by the Canadian band, Downhere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VatnKzkuRbA
- June 8, 2009 at 12:23 PM
- eheffa said...
If it could be shown that your god is a fantasy & nothing more than the product of a lot of wishful thinking, would you be willing to acknowledge the truth & let go of your comforting delusion?
Just wondering...that's what I had to do. It isn't easy but it is liberating not to have to live a lie.
- June 8, 2009 at 1:08 PM
- Michael said...
Sure, I'll engage in apologetic and philosophical discussions, since I accept the general revelation of God through natural theology. And don't worry; I don't get snotty or sarcastic and I will respect your dignity, even if we conclude with polar opposite convictions.
Fire away.
- June 8, 2009 at 1:32 PM
- Michael said...
I've no idea if that's why (or even if) Haggard selected it, but the painting is "Forgiven" by Thomas Blackshear, which came out in 1992.
Here's an inspirational interpretation of it at Dayspring:
Blackshear is also known for black heritage works. His bio:
And here is a very meaningful painting by Spencer Williams, called "Centurion":
- June 8, 2009 at 4:16 PM
- goprairie said...
Doesn't this sugary pap fall under the category of 'if you can't tell it from parody . . . . '?
Don't you idiots GET it? It is not some insipid 'one who loves us' doing good for us, it is real actual people. Real actual people ARE capable of great love and forgiveness and joy and challenge and caring and giving. Real people engage in it all the time. By themselves. With no fake magical force involved at all. Give up the silly sappy fantasy and pay attention to real life.
Your god has no arms to hold you or feet to walk in the sand to carry you, but REAL PEOPLE do.
Wake up and smell the coffee real people make and quit wasting your time of your silly sappy fantasy world. Ick.
- June 8, 2009 at 11:42 PM
- Gandolf said...
Hi Michael
You said..." I've also concluded that many of the "splits" are just preferential stuff. A lot of churches with minor differences in doctrine and practice bear no animosity for each other and will cooperate to accomplish wonderful, humanitarian things for the Lord."
Either way,a split is still a split right? and most usually over some trivial disagreement of a bible or faith book thats sending so many mixed messages its no wonder so many just cant really get to agree with each other.
And its still the cause of many arguments n heated moments nasties and general shunning and no talkies etc etc between previous family and friends.I`d think you`d have to be turning a very very blind eye to a whole lot that actually does! go on quietly behind the scenes worldwide in very many places wouldnt you?.
To me it seems to kind of be like suggesting if somethings half pie or even a little less than that, it means its still just fine and dandy?.These arguments and trivial differences over faith beliefs that do divide many people and infact is most likely the cause of the many new different cults or churches that are still forming each year worldwide thinking some how that "they" are a little better than someone else.Atleast some of them sticking their noses up at others in one way or other,sooner or later!.
How is this a good type of message to be sending out to the other people in general in this world that oviously also need to come more togteher and try to stop bickering over matters?Should we expect its being that helpful?,lets not forget faithful folk having been in so many numbers for many many years, surely must have to have already been very efluentual in whats happened and what we have.
I really cant see how its ever gonna be that helpful?.
Please explain how all the faith books that are notoriously divsive in their nature with being so often contradictive and almost always very hard to decipher and (all) agree on, hence the (reason) we do! have so many different churches etc all over the place.
Is ever going to be that helpful for a good role model in general for the (rest of the world) to also learn to be less devisive and more inclusive and peaceful and loving or whatever.
- June 9, 2009 at 3:24 AM
- Gandolf said...
Seems to me faiths are so busy consentrating with everything else thats wrong in the world.
And in the heavenly presense and great glorious wonder of this supposed father.
They forget to wonder if they might actually have something to do with the problem
- June 9, 2009 at 3:30 AM
- Gandolf said...
(The type of sensible Mathematics it seems is often used against us by the faithful)
Non believers suggest to the faithful that faith beliefs in these religious words and books written by mere men do often cause much to much confusion division and nastiness etc so something must surely be very wrong somewhere.
The faithful comes back with the ko power punch! that division and nastiness etc existed also within societies with no faiths too dont forget!
The equation answer then is
1 + 1 = ok !.
Nothings wrong and no changes needed.
- June 9, 2009 at 9:02 AM
- Michael said...
Thanks for the replies.
Ya, I'd seriously be stuffing ma noggin' in the sand if I denied the charges leveled at Christendom. But I accept none leveled at Christ. Can you imagine the world if everyone treated each other like He wants? What if fathers followed His command (even when it's tough) to love their wives, children and fellow human beings like that?
Ozzy Osbourne has a song, "Dreamer"
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJqswLi3uE) in which he sings, "Your higher power may be God or Jesus Christ - it really doesn't matter much to me; without each other's help, there ain't no hope for us..." The song makes a good point, and so do you. If we're not helping and taking care of REAL people, it really DOESN'T matter! James says that in such a case, our faith is dead - useless - we don't really trust Him.
What's really amazing is the TRANSFORMING power of Jesus Christ! Have you never met someone who gave their life to Him and made a complete turnaround from selfishness and misery to service and joy? Look for them. Talk to them. Walk with them.
True dat, homey. Some splits are over trivial stuff. Dat's what was gettin' me down, man - slowin' ma roll. But imagine if the church folk get focused on Jesus and avert their gaze from the petty. Now THAT is a church that's a joy to serve and worship with!
Yer right on, that some Christians look around at the world and complain or criticize. But many get involved to provide relief. Google Christian charities and standa back, 'causa the screen, she's a gonna explode with all the hits. All legit? Nope - some just want yo Benjamins, not giving a bleep about the suffering. But the ones that really serve Him? They'll make a grown man cry with their benevolence.
While scipture is both simple and profound, it's really not too hard to understand the basics. Look how Jesus just rolled it all up for us: Love God with all your might, and your neighbor as yourself. Does God want us following a checklist, or does He want our heart?
- June 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM
- Gandolf said...
Michael you said "But imagine if the church folk get focused on Jesus and avert their gaze from the petty. Now THAT is a church that's a joy to serve and worship with!"
I happen to agree with you it sounds great.
But this has always been the dream for thousands of years now right?.
It just hasnt worked or been able to happen.Should we be faithful of this dream for (another few thousand years) in such faithful hope! while continuing turning a blind eye to what the real evidence seems to suggest?.
You said"While scipture is both simple and profound, it's really not too hard to understand the basics"
Well admittedly you are still the faithful type, while i am no longer i now look for evidence.With that big difference naturally we will often likely see many things quite different.
If you happen to still have faith that translation is not such a problem,im not going to go calling you any names.But let me just simply say the factual evidence we have seems to be suggesting something quite different to what you suggest,it must be very hard to translate which is why we have so very many different splinter groups that all cant quite agree.Thats the evidence i suggest we do see!,should we just have faith with you partaking in your hopes? or with open eyes not be to blind to what can actually be seen!.
If "the basics" are actually all that really matters! and this book is to continue enjoying the faith some folk have in it as divine and coming from some superior God figure who know (all about) everything thats for the best.
Then why such complicated book full of so many many mega laws and expectations etc?,that so very many do find very hard to understand.
If this supposed god only expected the basics then thats all he would likely have passed on right?.Because in his great wisdom of everything he/she would have known very well!!,about this mess that has now eventuated though to much complicated stuff! and being both wise and strong surely would not have allowed this to happen in the first place and go on.
As such then i suggest the supposed (divine) books that we actually do have,surely would be expected to be about the basics you speak of! and not a lot more.
- June 10, 2009 at 6:39 AM
- Gandolf said...
"But imagine if the church folk get focused on Jesus and avert their gaze from the petty"
Is this faithful hope ever likely to turn into any real (reality) and ever be seen.
When the (manual) for the proposed product that is actually being used,seems to try to be expecting so very very much more!
- June 10, 2009 at 6:52 AM
- PhilosophyFan said...
I really want it to be true as well. Unlike Lewis: "You must picture me alone in that room in Magdalen, night after night, feeling, whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. That which I greatly feared had at last come upon me. In..1929 I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed..."
- June 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM
- Michael said...
What I'm trying to say is that there already are both individual Christians and churches who do focus on Jesus, are reasonably tolerant of different views and ARE a blast to serve with. Not just a far away dream of the ideal. I mean real people I see several times a week.
I feel bad for those who have had bad experiences with legalistic, judgmental, unloving types, but want everyone to be aware that the enire landscape of Christendom isn't so.
Philosophy Fan,
Ya, I like Lewis' work. Outstanding apologist.
Share with me, if willing, your spiritual background.
- June 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM
- PhilosophyFan said...
Also, some of the above posts are just bizarre.
No wonder women are looking for real men? What??? I have never, ever heard this from a woman. You go for that angle in getting women, though.
Sorry, that just made me chuckle.
- June 12, 2009 at 4:44 AM
- PhilosophyFan said...
To think... all those childish adults in the military who happen to be Christian. Somehow stuck to their realiance on God which...makes them unable to make a contribution in the world. No girls want them because they're not real men.
- June 12, 2009 at 4:50 AM
- Gandolf said...
Michael said..." Gandolf,
What I'm trying to say is that there already are both individual Christians and churches who do focus on Jesus, are reasonably tolerant of different views and ARE a blast to serve with. Not just a far away dream of the ideal. I mean real people I see several times a week."
Well Michael, if Churches and Christian etc mostly are all getting along all so nicely overall like you say they do.Then why do we ever have the need for new variations of churches and cults to form from time to time.
All im saying is that even if the type of Christians you suggest you personally are with, is actually in existence.Evidence from a rather long past history seems to suggest it doesnt actually happen so often so much everywhere.
Why do i say this?
Well because we do actually now have very many splits and separations even within Christianity,and most every year im pretty sure there is forming here and there even quite a few more.
Surely we shouldnt see the existence of such phenomenon?,if this bible manual actually was such a well developed script for suggested purpose of bringing people together and creating peace.
The question is maybe not so much about what type of christianity (yours) personally is and how good it may or may not be etc etc .But maybe more about (overall) whether these faith beliefs tend to lead towards a more inclusive? or exclusive? world.
In this divided world where the value of the family and tiribal unit has broken down & people can esily sometimes rob and even kill ya.With having now also so very many splits within all of its own christian families as well,surely the teachings of Christianity cannot be so quickly dismissed as maybe not being part of the problem with whats been going down.
Its all very well to be (suggested)that some religious manual book on life is basically (supposed!) to be all about love of each other and togetherness etc etc.Sure that sounds rosy dont it.
But what good is that (suggestion) ever gonna be?, if a few thousand years already so far (suggests_ it so often really has such a opposite effect.
How can faith belief itself so obviously have a recipe it uses for divided faith!.And yet somehow be expecting any different to happen from the rest of the world?.
If it was ever gonna honestly work,we would have seen much more evidence of it happening now!.
Faithful folks can tell us forever until they almost go blue in the face!.That the bible is (supposed) to do this and that and bring people "together" and make them more "loving" and "happy" and "inclusive" blah blah etc etc.Yep we been told that thousands of years now!!
Doesnt EVER! make it so though does it!, just because you might think you can try (repeating) it enough times over and over and over
- June 13, 2009 at 6:53 AM
- Michael said...
If I may, what's your spiritual background?
- June 14, 2009 at 12:48 AM
- Gandolf said...
Michael said... "Gandolf,If I may, what's your spiritual background?"
Hi Michael well put it this way it sure was a nightmare.
But i dont understand why me specially telling you what particular type it was, will help explain why these nightmare christian faiths form in the first place.
The one i was once personally involved with has little bearing on how these things come about.
You need to look at the confusing incoherent mess and harshness also written within this book the bible, often suggested by many to be a manual for life to ever start to understand that.
Naturally some faithful folk like to compare different church groups so some can hopefully stand back and say oh but unlike us "they over there" are just not being christian etc.Thats the problem its just that simple.
It might be fine and dandy if this book only contained the wonderful directions of love and kindness etc like you suggest your personal christian friends all adhere to .
But it obviously contains so much more as well, which explains how and why so many abusive churches also exist.
- June 14, 2009 at 4:50 AM
- Michael said...
Gandolf said..."...it sure was a nightmare."
Please elaborate. You've already expressed what you currently believe and I'm not trying to trick you -- I'm genuinely interested.
- June 14, 2009 at 8:30 PM
- AznHisoka said...
Why has Christianity separated us, instead of united us? Do you know how much psychological pain it has caused people to tell their parents that they don't believe anymore?
Why is the Bible so full of inconsistencies? If it wanted us to be good, kind human beings, why couldn't it just tell it to us in a more simple, direct manner? I'm into personal development right now and love it, you know why? Because I read these books that are sooooo easy to understand! The Bible is incomprehensible!
Why does God want us to get baptized, drink Jesus' blood so we can get to heaven? Why doesn't he care about kind, selfless acts? Getting baptized ain't helping no poor kid in Africa get food. Donating money will though! Yet the first gets you to heaven.
Look around us. Wars, conflict, hunger, fighting, violence... I know God gives us free will, but if he wanted to spread a positive message, dun u think he would not give us doubt about the truth of the message? Give us some damn proof, THEN yeah you can give us free will to decide whether or not to follow it.
Michael, it's not too late. There was a sunk cost in following Christianity, but don't live your life in vain. Think about these things:
1. If you were born in Pakistan, would you believe in Jesus?
2. What makes you so sure you know God better than any person following Islam?
Are you smarter than them? Have a special connection to God than them? Think about the reverse question and how someone from Pakistan would answer it. Compare your response with his/her probable response.
- June 15, 2009 at 3:20 PM
- Michael said...
[Pain from telling parents]
Why tell one's parents? Strange Q, I know, but there is a point.
[Biblical inconsistencies]
I haven't found CONTEXTUAL inconsistencies in the Bible. Some things may have dual meaning. Now we can pull stuff out and distort it, if we wish.
[Tell us to be good in a simple way]
Like, "Love God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind and your neighbor as yourself."? Really, all we need to do is copy Jesus' behavior.
[Bible is incomprehensible]
You have a point in that some things are hard. But as a whole it's both simple and profound. It varies with the person, but most of the basics seem around 5th grade comprehension.
"Why...baptized...drink Jesus' blood."
These actions have both an obedient and symbolic component. More detail if you wish.
[Why doesn't he care about kind, selfless acts?]
Are you going by what someone TOLD you the Bible says?
Matt 10:42, James 1:27, James 2:14-17. Plenty more where they came from. Jesus was all about caring for others.
"Yet [baptism] gets you to heaven"
It's really trust in Jesus Christ and his saving sacrifice. Works cannot do it (see Romans 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-10). Repentance and baptism is our RESPONSE to that good news. It's how we accept His gift.
[Give us some proof]
I know some people want a face to face w/ God before they believe, but they might change their mind if that happens. Think about this. There are really smart, educated people among believers and unbelievers. Is it really an intellectual problem? Could it instead be a "willingness" problem? Many people who are willing to trust Him are very compassionate, loving, unselfish, joyful folk.
"If you were born in Pakistan, would you believe in Jesus?"
That is a very good question. I know God is just and deals with all fairly, so if they don't know any better, He'll handle it. But if those born there don't believe, does it make it untrue?
"What makes you so sure you know God better than any person following Islam?" I don't doubt that there are loving people following Islam. I have studied world religions, but really just needed to decide if Jesus'(peace be upon Him) claims were true. I have studied and I believe they are. He is the Prince of Peace. The Son of God. The Savior of the world. He commanded us to love and forgive one another. He told us to be willing to die for what we believe, but by no means hurt others for it. He said "I love you" in a way that cannot be bettered. I truly want to love Him back.
- June 17, 2009 at 1:34 AM
- Gandolf said...
Michael said..."Gandolf said..."...it sure was a nightmare."
Please elaborate. You've already expressed what you currently believe and I'm not trying to trick you -- I'm genuinely interested."
Sorry Michael to be honest im genuinely just far too embarrassed :)
AznHisoka said...Michael,"Why has Christianity separated us, instead of united us?"
Yeah some rather strange sort of divine book it must be.Certainly find it awfully hard to ever consider it as "extremely good" or "unusually lovely" as divine is also defined in my dictionary.
Somethings really wrong.
One reason i see no good reason to need to go pointing out what particular type of abusive church i personally had dealings with.Is because they are most certainly not the only ones by a long shot.There is plenty of them around.
They cant all have just been so simply effected by this supposed evil can they.My church family and friends honestly do believe what they do is right.And like most other abusive churches they also honestly believe they have used this christian bible to help them come to their beliefs.
Faithful folk can turn a blind eye as long as they wish and some can even tell us that this book supposedly has brought them personally to being in some special wonderful group.That might even be quite true.
But just because some people dont happen to personally get cancer from smoking ciggys,doesnt happen to then mean that smoking ciggys must then just be quite ok.
Evidence seems to suggest people smoking more often also have health hazards.Evidence we have seen over many THOUSANDS of years also seems to suggest use of the Christian bible more often causes much division and sadness too.
Is atomic warfare also fine?...After all some might say, it only effects certain people adversely.
- June 17, 2009 at 9:21 PM
- Michael said...
I can tell you a lot of it has to do with us. Our attitude means a lot. I had two totally different experiences with a church in CA. The 1st time I attended there, I had a lonely, self-pity, "why doesn't anyone reach out to me" attitude. My spiritual growth floundered. My career took me to other places for a few years, then back again. THIS time, I took the attitude, "what can I do to help/contribute?". Man, what a blast! What a huge difference unselfishness makes. I once read that spiritual maturity is directly proportionate to unselfishness, and I agree. Look at Jesus, the epitomy of unselfishness and spirituality!
Again, I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience in the past, and I hope if you try again, it's much better for you. If you're not involved in unselfish endeavors already, I highly recommend it. If all Americans get in such a habit, we'll almost put the mental health industry out of business!
If there's anything I can do to help, lay it on me. My email is firstname.lastname@example.com, if you just wanna have a private sidebar conversation.
- June 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM
- Gandolf said...
Cheers Michael thanks for the kind thoughts and offers of help!.
However there is no need to go feelin sorry for me because like they say, what doesnt actually get ta kill ya only makes you much stronger in the end anyway.
Its interesting what you have said but some how i doubt it was my attitude that caused so many families to be split and quite a large number of folks to even commit suicide over the years.And so much more.
And maybe i might even be able to just simply feel complete hatred for these folk if i didnt know better and know them well enough to know they actually do what they do because through reading the faith book they only do it through thinking its whats right.
I understand its not so easy for faithful folk to allow themselves to ever consider it might actually be something a whole lot more than just simple attitudes that might be the cause of these things.
The folks themselves in this group i speak of also can only allow themselves to ever consider that the split families and suicides etc are all caused by some supposed evil spirit.
Its often referred to as being in some type of denial i think.
But the fact still remains that there actually is quite a large amount of abuse that happens within many faith beliefs worldwide.And i suggest its likely even much more than we actually know about yet.
There is no need for you and i to agree on matters here, but personally it seems to me that trying to lay blame merely on peoples attitudes is not really doing much justice at all.
- June 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM
- Michael said...
The congregation itself didn't necessarily change. My example was citing my own contrasting attitudes and the satisfaction I personally felt from each. I believe we are designed to serve others. If we think of ourselves too much, mental health will probably deteriorate.
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Wow! What an impressive haul!ReplyDelete
I've harvested quite a few tomatoes, but still have tons more still green. I'm hoping the frost holds off a while yet.
And man, tomatillos sure are prolific, aren't they? Do you just toss them in the freezer whole?
Kitt I did read that you can freeze the tomatillos whole. I cut them in half and then each half in quarters. I did notice a lot of liquid condensed inside the plastic bag and made frost, so I might try the next batch just whole. I think the frozen ones will be great in soup this winter.ReplyDelete
Wow - your garden is lovely! The scorching heat and drought in Georgia (and my working too much) contributed to killing most of my herbs off, but I still managed to enjoy cucumbers and tomatoes.ReplyDelete
Have you thought about preserving tomatillo salsa? It might be a good way to use a good number of them and enjoy them in winter, too.
Based on my own experience with an unknown variety of yellow heirloom, I agree that the flavor and texture aren't great, even though the color is striking. (My mom's tomatoes, BTW, were very slow, too.)ReplyDelete
Savory can be hung upside down to dry, then crumbled into powder. It is very strong, particularly when dried, pairing well with root vegetables and game.
that is SO exciting, thanks for sharing! most of my tomatoes checked out for the season with some sort of fungus. But you have an amazing pile there!ReplyDelete
I planted some kale and arugala for the fall, and it's too early to have a sense of how they're doing.
Wow! I am always amazed at the wonderful produce form your garden! You could open your own market stall with that lot!ReplyDelete
HaleySuzanne, I'm not really a canner, but I think I can make salsa from the frozen tomatillos if I want it.ReplyDelete
Susan have to dry some savory. I hate to just waste it.
Cherylharris, good for you getting those fall crops planted. I should have done it, especially spinach and arugula, but I think it's too late now.
Helen, instead I just give it away to my neighbors!
Kalyn - you can freeze both red and green salsa. I put into processor and pulse to leave a little texture and freeze in half or whole cup portions in freezer bags. Lay flat, pile up and freeze. It keeps almost a fresh taste unlike canned tomatoes.ReplyDelete
Alice, thanks for that info. Now I'm getting interested. Some tomatillo salsa in the freezer sounds like a good thing.ReplyDelete
Congrats on the successful gardening. It's so much fun to grow your own food. I grow some of mine and get the remainder at the farmer's market.ReplyDelete
MMM tomatillos, I'm thinking about growing those next year.
I love everything in your garden. You always do a great job gardening.ReplyDelete
It's been a really slow summer in my neck of the woods. I'm not sure if there's enough sunlight left in the season for all of my tomatoes to ripen.ReplyDelete
Beautiful bounty, girlie!
Just came across your blog through another. Your garden is beautiful! I wish I could grow things, but I was cursed with a black thumb. I will just continue to live through great gardeners like yourself. i have a great recipe I've been wanting to try that includes tomatillos, they are so expensive. Wish I could garden!ReplyDelete
- Murasaki ShikibuSeptember 14, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Summer savory is excellent with white asparagus.ReplyDelete
You an boil your own but if it comes out of a bottle or can - cooled white asparagus with extra virgin olive oil, fleur de sel or any good quality salt, pepper and summer savory can taste very pleasant. :)
Kalyn - would the tomatillos be a good candidate for growing in a big pot? That's how I grow hot peppers, and I was wondering if next year I should try some tomatillos, because I love them!ReplyDelete
Susy, the tomatillos were very easy to grow. Just be sure to plant two of them together.ReplyDelete
Paz, thanks. Wish I could send you some stuff.
Cookiecrumb, I'm feeling that way here too. Very odd summer.
Amanda, sun is the main requirement for growing veggies. If you have enough sun, you should be able to do it.
Muraski, that does sound good. Thanks for the tip.
Pam you would need to have two pots right by each other. It's a pretty big plant compared to peppers, but you could prune them. Might work, but I'd read up on it a little.
- Michael ZSeptember 15, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Kalyn, all I can say is, "Is it soup yet?" What time is dinner? I'll gas up the car and start driving. :-)ReplyDelete
Why do you need two tomatillo plants? I hadn't heard that before.
You must have the magic touch for growing! Gorgeous!ReplyDelete
Am SO JEALOUS of your garden. and what a great harvest. I just finished reading Barbara Kiingsolver's book Animal Vegetable, Miracle, and have been wishing I could plant a kitchen garden. But this eyar, even my herb garden has gone into neglect. Oh well, there is always next year...ReplyDelete
Michael, here is Wikipedia on tomatillos which seems pretty emphatic on having two plants. Dinner is about 6:00!ReplyDelete
Tanna, I think it's the compost enriched topsoil! Pricey but worth it.
TBTAM, you're jeallous of the garden, I'm jealous you live in NYC.
Wow, I am completely green with envy. Fantastic garden Kalyn.ReplyDelete
Summer savory is great dried to use on roasts or chicken marinades during the winter. In the summer, I love to marinate chicken in lime juice with bruised summer savory leaves and then grill. Very tasty.ReplyDelete
Kalyn, you have an enviable garden. Such a large harvest, all in one picking! How are you going to eat it all? That there is several entries' worth of WHB and GYO posts!ReplyDelete
Oh Kalyn, what an impressive harvest!! I finally have ONE butternut squash on the vine and I'm praying the little guy gets a chance to grow and ripen before we lose all hope of sun...ReplyDelete
When my husband and I moved into a house with a small yard (in San Diego), we were so excited to start gardening, but everything we planted (basil, tomatoes, yellow squash, zucchini) died. The dirt is very hard and rocky, but we tried to remove as many rocks as possible, aerated it as best we could, bought some earth worms, and let them do their work for a week before we started planting. What did we do wrong?ReplyDelete
Marcella, I don't know anything about gardening in that type of climate. I would recommend seeking help from a local garden center.ReplyDelete
In my own garden, I have raised beds and bought (fairly expensive) compost enriched topsoil to get them started this year. Utah has a dry, hot climate which is great for vegetables.
Hi Kalyn,ReplyDelete
Your garden looks amazing! You've done such a great job, I'm totally impressed! I have Mr. Stripeys in my garden also and I recently managed to beat the rabbits and squirrels to a few ripe ones...
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When the news of the possible closure of the Price City tennis courts at the end of October spread to the tennis players in the community, they took action. Carbon High School tennis players, community tennis players, family, friends and other concerned parties crammed into the Price City Council chambers last week to let the council know their thoughts on the issue.
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However, as time has gone by, the current bubble which has been in use for many years is in need of replacing, according to Bret Cammans, Price City customer services director. Cammans said the current bubble has a shelf life of about two more years before the city would need to purchase a new one. With that knowledge in mind, the city has looked into possible plans for a structure to be built around the Wave Pool, which would eliminate the need for a bubble altogether. Replacing the bubble could cost the city up to $200,000.
In March the city council gave a green light for an architectural firm to look into possible designs for a new leisure pool at the Wave Pool complex. With more and more swimmers using the indoor pool, some swimmers have inquired about the possibility of building another pool to accommodate swimmers who use the lap pool because they don't like the waves generated by the Wave Pool. The new pool would be a leisure pool which would accommodate families and their children and would provide another option for people using the Wave Pool facilities.
"We would like to build a structure for the Wave Pool complex for the long-term," Cammans explained noting the costs the city incurs with the bubble and heating costs during the cold weather months of the year.
Funding concerns
Many of those in attendance at the city council meeting were in support of keeping the tennis courts open for at least a few more years. One of the reasons the committee wants to keep them open to the public is to allow more time for the Carbon School District to continue working on a master plan which would possibly include the building of a tennis complex, complete with lights, near the high school baseball field. However, that master plan is still in its infancy, according to Jeff Richens, a board member with Carbon School District.
If things were to stay the same now and the courts were to stay open, the city would continue to put money towards the tennis courts for annual maintenance, improving the courts to satisfy safety concerns and continuing to provide a place for tennis players in the community to use. Over the years the city has kept up the tennis courts by resurfacing them every five to 10 years, according to Gary Sonntag, Price City Public Works director. With the wear and tear from weather, especially snow, cracks, holes and other problems have arisen. The city has spent around $6,000 for quick repairs to the courts for filling in existing cracks, much like how a road is fixed with crack sealing. Adding up the total costs for repairs and maintenance for the six tennis courts, Sonntag estimated the city has spent about $100,000 over a period of several years.
Despite the costs, one of the main reasons for closing down the courts is based upon the safety of people using the courts, Sonntag said.
"We don't want to wait to build new courts until after someone has an accident," he explained.
While some of the talk at the meeting focused upon bringing entities together including Price City Council and city staff, Carbon County, Carbon School District, USU Eastern, Carbon Recreation and many others, up to this point there have been no takers to help fund the repairs and maintenance for the current courts or to work on building new courts in the area, Sonntag said.
"Do we want tennis here? Yes we do," Councilwoman Jeanne McEvoy said noting the current courts are not viable for the long-term in their present condition. "We want tennis here but not at any cost to the health or safety of someone."
The possible funding options to fix the new courts could run into a few snags too. Some on the city council said they are reluctant to put forth a large sum of city funds for the current courts if new courts were to be built somewhere else, such as in a possible master plan with the school district.
"I don't want to throw a lot of money at something that could be relocated at a later time," said Councilwoman Kathy Hanna-Smith.
Richens said the tennis court committee's hope is for everyone to come together to support saving the tennis courts, while looking at all of the possible long-term options.
With their close proximity to USU Eastern, Washington Park, Carbon High School and local neighborhoods, the current location of the courts offers a centralized point in the city that doesn't require many who use them to travel far distances. Building tennis courts near the Carbon High baseball field, or possibly somewhere else in the city limits, would change that central point that many cite as a positive for the current location.
If the tennis courts were to be taken down, Mayor Joe Piccolo said the city would make sure some form of recreation would be placed in the area, such as an expansion to the Wave Pool.
While the term "recreation center" has not be used by city officials, the proposed project to expand the Wave Pool would see the area, including Washington Park, turn into something similar to a recreation center for the city. The proposed project would include the new leisure pool, two basketball courts, two tennis courts and more parking spaces.
Piccolo and the city council supported the committee's request to review the proposed move to shut down the courts at the end of October.
While the council requested that the project not exceed a period of five years and not add significant costs to the city's budget, Councilman Richard Tatton also requested the committee get letters from interested entities that would help fund the project to keep the courts open.
The committee will work closely with the city during the 30-day period, with Councilman Jeff Nielson acting as liaison between the committee and the city council. The council is looking to discuss the proposed plan at the council meeting on Sept. 28.


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NEW YORK, NY (Sports Network) - The National Hockey League and the Players' Association reached an agreement on the framework of a new collective bargaining agreement to end the lockout that has been in place since mid- September.
The breakthrough came after a 16-hour marathon negotiating session that lasted all day Saturday and into Sunday morning at the Sofitel Hotel. The NHL announced the agreement in principle shortly after 5 a.m. ET Sunday.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and union head Donald Fehr stood together announcing they had the framework of a new contract.
"I want to thank Don Fehr. We still have more work to do, but it's good to be at this point," Bettman said. "We've got to dot a lot of I's and cross a lot of T's. There's still a lot of work to be done, but the basic framework of the deal has been agreed upon."
The league said the new labor package, which will reportedly be for 10 years, must be "drafted and formerly approved by both parties" before it can be finalized.
The NHL and its Players' Association had met separately with a federal mediator throughout the day Friday and into the evening. On Saturday afternoon, the two sides met face-to-face with federal mediator Scot L. Beckenbaugh as they worked toward a new labor deal.
Bettman has said a regular-season schedule of at least 48 games must begin by Jan. 19. The existing 2012-13 NHL schedule has already been canceled through Jan. 14.
The two sides have been without a CBA since the previous one expired just before midnight on Sept. 15.
Depending on ratification of the new CBA, training camps could open in the middle of the coming week.
TSN of Canada reports the 10-year deal also has an opt-out clause that kicks in after eight years.
As part of the deal:
1) Players will receive $300 million in transition payments over three years to account for existing contracts, pushing their revenue share over 50 percent at the start of the deal.
2) Players gained a defined benefit pension plan for the first time.
3) The salary cap for this season will be $70.2 million before prorating to adjust for the shortened season, and the cap will drop to $64.3 million in 2013-14 - the same amount as 2011-12. There will be a salary floor of $44 million in those years.
4) Free agents will be limited to contracts of seven years (eight for those re-signed with their former club).
5) Salaries within a contract may not vary by more than 35 percent year to year, and the lowest year must be at least 50 percent of the highest year.
6) There were no changes to eligibility for free agency and salary arbitration.
7) The threshold for teams to release players in salary arbitration will increase from $1.75 million to $3 million.
8) Each team may use two buyouts to terminate contracts before the 2013-14 or 2014-15 seasons for two-thirds of the remaining guaranteed income. The buyout will be included in the players' revenue share but not the salary cap.
9) The minimum salary will remain at $525,000 this season and will rise to $750,000 by 2021-12.
10) Either side may terminate the deal after the 2019-20 season.
11) Revenue sharing will increase to $200 million annually and rise with revenue.
12) An industry growth fund of $60 million will be funded by the sides over three years and replenished as need.
13) Participation of NHL and its players in the 2014 Sochi Olympics will be determined later in discussions also involving the International Olympic Committee and the International Ice Hockey Federation.
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BALMAT Opponents of a Gouverneur Central School District board decision to close Fowler Elementary School have not given up on a reversal even while the board moves ahead to dispose of the building.
They may have won the battle, but they havent won the war, said David L. Spilman, a former Fowler town supervisor. Were going to pursue it. Ive got to see how much backing Ive got. Theres a lot of people who have said theyre going to help me.
At a public forum in February, Mr. Spilman produced a document from the early days of consolidation that said each district with a school was entitled by law to have it maintained as long as local district voters wanted.
The school district posted an advisory opinion on its website from attorney Marc H. Reitz, East Syracuse, that the information provided by Mr. Spilman was true in 1949, but was amended in 1958.
Where central school districts had been compelled to obtain voter approval before closing such schools, the 1958 amendment limited this requirement to the five-year period following centralization, he wrote.
The only recourse was to appeal to the state Legislature to repeal the amendment, Mr. Reitz wrote, quoting a 1959 Appellate Division opinion on a case in Steuben County.
In conclusion, the responsibility of deciding whether Fowler Elementary School should be closed, and the authority to act on a determination regarding the same, rests with the board of education, Mr. Reitz wrote.
Mr. Spilman said Mr. Reitzs opinion is not conclusive.
According to them, its not valid, Mr. Spilman said. To me, its unfair to us.
The school board, which voted Monday to close the school, will review all of its options on whether to give away the building or sell it, Superintendent Lauren F. French said. That discussion will be the topic of the next several meetings, she said.
The town of Fowler informally has expressed interest in the building for its offices and as a community center, but Supervisor Michael J. Cappellino said he did not want to get ahead of his board, members of which would prefer the school stay open.
If the school is to close, Mr. Cappellino said, he would prefer the building become a community gathering spot rather than a shuttered shell.
I think eventually well have to look at the practical part of it, he said.
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42 U.S. Code § 289c - Research on public health emergencies
If the Secretary determines, after consultation with the Director of NIH, the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, or the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, that a disease or disorder constitutes a public health emergency, the Secretary, acting through the Director of NIH—
(1) shall expedite the review by advisory councils under section 284a of this title and by peer review groups under section 289a of this title of applications for grants for research on such disease or disorder or proposals for contracts for such research;
(2) shall exercise the authority in section 6101 of title 41 respecting public exigencies to waive the advertising requirements of such section in the case of proposals for contracts for such research;
(3) may provide administrative supplemental increases in existing grants and contracts to support new research relevant to such disease or disorder; and
(4) shall disseminate, to health professionals and the public, information on the cause, prevention, and treatment of such disease or disorder that has been developed in research assisted under this section.
The amount of an increase in a grant or contract provided under paragraph (3) may not exceed one-half the original amount of the grant or contract.
Source(July 1, 1944, ch. 373, title IV, § 494, as added Pub. L. 99–158, § 2,Nov. 20, 1985, 99 Stat. 875; amended Pub. L. 102–531, title III, § 312(d)(9),Oct. 27, 1992, 106 Stat. 3504; Pub. L. 109–482, title I, § 104(b)(1)(P),Jan. 15, 2007, 120 Stat. 3693.)
In par. (2), "section 6101 of title 41" substituted for "section 3709 of the Revised Statutes (41 U.S.C. 5)" on authority of Pub. L. 111–350, § 6(c),Jan. 4, 2011, 124 Stat. 3854, which Act enacted Title 41, Public Contracts.
2007—Pub. L. 109–482struck out subsec. (a) designation before "If the Secretary" and subsec. (b) which read as follows: "Not later than 90 days after the end of a fiscal year, the Secretary shall report to the Committee on Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Labor and Human Resources of the Senate on actions taken under subsection (a) of this section in such fiscal year."
1992—Subsec. (a). Pub. L. 102–531substituted "Centers for Disease Control and Prevention" for "Centers for Disease Control".
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Nervous system side effects are common from cancer and cancer treatments. The nervous system is made up of the central nervous system (CNS) and the peripheral nervous system (PNS). The CNS is made up of the brain and spinal cord. The PNS is made up of the nerves outside of the CNS that carry information back and forth between the body and the brain. The PNS is involved in movement, sensing (touching, hearing, seeing, tasting, and smelling), and the functioning of the internal organs, (for example, the stomach, lungs, and heart).
Types of nervous system side effects
Some of the nervous system side effects that may be caused by cancer or cancer treatment include the following:
- Hearing loss and/or tinnitus (ringing in the ears)
- Vision loss and/or vision side effects (such as blurred or double vision)
- Speech difficulties, such as slurred speech, difficulty expressing oneself or understanding speech
- Cognitive (thought process) changes including decreased memory, problem solving, and calculation
- Changes in taste and smell
- Difficulty swallowing
- Problems with balance, dizziness, vertigo (feeling like the room is spinning), and nausea
- Ataxia (problems with coordination) and movement, including problems with posture, walking, or holding objects
- Asthenia, a general weakness that causes an overall lack of strength; hemiparesis (weakness on one side of the body); drowsiness
- Paralysis of different parts of the body, ranging from hemiplegia (paralysis of one side of the body) to paralysis of a smaller area, such as the muscles in the face
- Seizures
- Changes in the functioning of organs, which can cause constipation, incontinence (inability to control the flow of urine), and impotence (an inability to get or maintain an erection)
- Pain, which can be caused by a tumor pressing on the nerves or damage to the nerves from treatment
- Peripheral neuropathy, a condition caused by damage or irritation to the peripheral nerves. The symptoms may include numbness, tingling ("pins and needles"), or burning pain in the arms, hands, legs, or feet; decreased ability to sense hot and cold; difficulty lifting the feet or toes; difficulty picking up small objects; decreased muscle strength; vision or hearing changes; and/or constipation
Nervous system side effects are caused by many factors, including cancer, cancer treatments, other medications, or other disorders. The symptoms may lead to a cancer diagnosis, appear soon after treatment, or may appear several years after treatment. The possible causes of nervous system problems are listed below:
- Cancers that affect the nervous system, such as brain cancer and sarcomas of the nerves (for example, neurofibrosarcoma, malignant peripheral nerve sheath tumor, and peripheral primitive neuroectodermal tumor all affect the nervous system)
- Cancers that have metastasized (spread) to the brain or spinal cord
- Tumors growing in other parts of the body that press on nerves
- Some types of chemotherapy may cause peripheral neuropathy, such as bortezomib (Velcade), carboplatin (Paraplatin), cisplatin (Platinol), docetaxel (Docefrez, Taxotere), oxaliplatin (Eloxatin), paclitaxel (Taxol), thalidomide (Synovir, Thalomid), vinblastine (Velban, Velsar) and vincristine (Oncovin, Vincasar).
- Other types of chemotherapy may cause other nervous system side effects. These types include cytarabine (Cytosar-U), fluorouracil (5-FU, Adrucil), ifosfamide (Ifex), interferon (multiple brand names), fludarabine (Fludara, Oforta), and methotrexate (multiple brand names).
- Radiation therapy, especially to the head and neck, or whole-body radiation treatment
- Radiation therapy to the spine, or chemotherapy injected directly into the spine
- Surgery, if nerves are damaged during surgery to remove a tumor or to perform a biopsy (removal of a small amount of tissue for examination under a microscope)
- Specific medications, including some antinausea drugs, opioid (strong) pain killers, and anticonvulsants (drugs to treat seizures)
- Infections causing swelling or inflammation of the brain, spinal cord, or inner ear
- Other conditions or symptoms related to cancer or cancer treatments, including anemia (low number of red blood cells), dehydration, fatigue, stress, and depression
- Other conditions or disorders not related to cancer, such as diabetes, vitamin deficiency, thyroid dysfunction, human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), stroke, Alzheimer's disease, multiple sclerosis, and nerve injury
Relieving side effects—also called symptom management, palliative care, or supportive care—is an important part of cancer care and treatment. Talk with your health care team about any symptoms you experience, including any new symptoms or a change in symptoms.
Nervous system side effects can make it difficult for people to complete their usual daily activities. Some symptoms caused by cancer treatment will go away after treatment ends, but some may be ongoing. Although nerve damage and nervous system side effects may not be preventable, most are manageable if found early. Early treatment can also prevent the symptoms from worsening. It is important to tell your doctor immediately if you have any of the symptoms listed above. Once diagnosed, management of nervous system side effects depends on the type of problem and the cause. The following list provides several ways to manage nervous system problems:
- Antinausea and antivertigo medications, such as meclizine (Antivert), prochlorperazine (Compazine, Compro), scopolamine patch (Transderm-Scop),
- Antibiotics (to treat infection), and corticosteroids (to reduce inflammation and swelling)
- Pain medications, including opioids, as well as tricyclic antidepressants such as amitriptyline (multiple brand names), nortriptyline (Aventyl, Pamelor), anticonvulsants, including gabapentin (Neurontin), and pregabalin (Lyrica) used to treat peripheral neuropathy and other types of nerve pain (called neuropathic pain)
- Nerve blocks and transcutaneous electric nerve stimulation (TENS), which provide pain relief
- Occupational therapy, to maintain motor skills needed for daily activities, such as getting dressed, picking up small objects, writing, or doing household chores
- Physical therapy, to improve physical strength, balance, coordination, and mobility
- Speech therapy, to improve speech and learn ways to change speech as needed
- Evaluation by a neuropsychologist to look at cognitive function
- Changes to the home environment to increase safety, such as installing hand rails in the bathroom, using nonskid rugs, adding extra lighting, and checking water temperature with an elbow instead of the hands
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since yesterday am working on snmp and mrtg installation and configuration on debian linux...
but when i check snmp through "cfgmaker email@example.com >/etc/mrtg.cfg" it gives the following error..
no response received
SNMPv1_Session (remote host: "127.0.0.1" [127.0.0.1].161)
community: "public"
request ID: -2015853733
PDU bufsize: 8000 bytes
timeout: 2s
retries: 5
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at /usr/share/perl5/SNMP_util.pm line 629
SNMPWALK Problem for 220.127.116.11.2.1.1 on email@example.com::::::v4only
at /usr/bin/cfgmaker line 953
WARNING: Skipping email@example.com: as no info could be retrieved
..as am very new to linux so did get any valid solution ...kindly help me...
looking forward for a quick response...tanx in advance...
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as it says "it cannot query your snmp agent".
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Fun Things To Do In Park City If You Are Not A Skier
Park City has an abundance of skiing options available and rightfully so as it is one of the world's best ski resort towns! But what do you do if you are not a skier? No matter if you were coerced into going after drinking too much egg nog or you just want a complete change of scenery, regardless there is plenty of things to do in and around Park City as a non-skier.


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NEWPORT–After a fantastic season last year that saw boys senior captain Josef Bourgeois pick up a second place finish at the state meet, the North Country Cross-Country team will be looking to fill his, as well as some other key positions on the 2011 roster.
"On the girls side we lost Genna Primeau and Martha Petzoltd to graduation and Steph Fontaine decided not to return, and on the boys side we lost Josef and Andy Decelles to graduation, and Brian DeLaBruere is now playing soccer," says 2nd year Head Coach Chris Schaffer.
January 8, 1925-September 8, 2011
Harry M. Higley, age 86, of Lowell, VT died on Thursday, September 8, 2011. He was born January 8, 1925 in Guilford, VT to William and Bessie (Davis) Higley.
He was predeceased by one half brother, George, and two half-sisters, Lucy Higley and Evelyn Clark, all of Guilford.
He is survived by one brother, Herbert of San Diego, CA and one sister, Wilma Higgins of Guilford.
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MONTGOMERY CENTER / GLOVER – Alvira B. Arel, age 97, passed away Sunday afternoon September 11, 2011 at the Union House Nursing Home in Glover.
She was born August 14, 1914 in Montgomery Center the daughter of the late Clyde and Louise (Lumbra) Tevyaw.
Firefighters extinguish a fire in a dumpster at the Eastside Restaurant Saturday evening.
Firefighters were called to the restaurant around 8 p.m. The cause of the fire that spread to the fence around the dumpster is unknown. The smoke was extensive but the damage was localized.
NEWPORT CITY – Americans nationwide attended ceremonies to remember the men and women who died in the terrorists attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.Â
Newport area Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts held a brief ceremony, which included raising the Flag of Heroes in Railroad Square. The flag is similar to the American Flag in shape and design but has the name of every person who was killed during the 9/11 terrorist attacks.Â
SHEFFIELD – Saturday marked the one-year anniversary of when 78-year-old Pat O'Hagan disappeared. On Oct. 3, hunters discovered O'Hagan's body in Wheelock, about 10 miles from her home. Police called her death a homicide.
Major Ed Ledo, of the Vermont State Police, held a press conference at the Sheffield Town Hall Friday. He said law enforcement officers believe more than one person was involved with the crime. Based on information that came in during the investigation, police searched two nearby bodies of water, Ledo said, but he did not say what evidence was being sought.
NEWPORT– Coming off back to back shut-out losses in the first two games of the season, the North Country boys soccer team finally ended their scoreless streak on Saturday as they won a thrilling contest 2-1 off the foot of Josh Puckett.
"We played a solid 80 minutes of soccer," said Coach James McKenny, "We talked about it before the game, if we do that we are going to be in every game."
NEWPORT-You have to wonder how much more productive this offensive machine for the North Country Falcons can be. The 2-0 Falcons ran for 365 yards on the ground and pounded visiting U-32 on both sides of the ball, ransacking their East Montpelier opponents 73-6.
Jason Hatin was the big man in the offense scoring four touchdowns on the ground from 2, 3, 5 and 37 yards out. He added an 84 yard kickoff return for good measure as NCU dominated. Quarterback Tre Sanville scored twice and threw a touchdown pass as well.
NEWPORT–Girls from NCUHS held a car wash on Sunday to help raise funds for the reinstatement of the Falcon Cheer leading program.
Headed by Danielle Gage from Awesome Dance Studio, the team hopes to be up and running as soon as possible.
They will be meeting with NCU AD Mike Kiser today to go over the logistics of the start up process.
Uniforms run about $130.00 per person for everything, and the girls were able to raise $225.00 on Sunday.
With the current number of athletes interested the total cost would be roughly $1,300.00 to dress a squad for the 2011-2012 school year.
JERICHO– A physical but clean contest went in favor of the Cougars of Mount Mansfield on Friday, as they were able to avoid an early onslaught and defeat the Falcons in girls soccer action on Friday.
"We had about four real quality chances early," said Coach Alexander, "We hit the cross bar, and were not able to score on the others."
The senior laden Cougars bounced back from the striking Falcons, and with two and a half minutes to go in the half they were able to to beat Lindsay Geoffrey off of a scramble in front of the NCU net.