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Sep 12 2011
Italian Chicken Soup
WARNING: I'm afraid I'm going to be obsessed with soup this fall. I apologize in advance. Something about the recent lifting of the two-thousand degree weather has made me really excited about finally being able to eat hot food made in pots.
I made three soups last week, unsure of which one(s) I'd use for my cookbook and which one(s) I'd post here. Yesterday, I closed my eyes and picked one…and was so happy this was the one I landed on, as it's the one I most wanted to share. It's very loosely based on a classic soup from a chain Italian restaurant, but departs from it in several key ways…not the least of which is the addition of heavy cream, which adds richness to the soup without turning it into…well, a creamy soup. It really is the best of both worlds.
This is a delightful and delicious soup, but be aware that it's kind of pot-heavy (meaning I'm going to drive you crazy saying "get another pot…get another pot"). It's also one of those recipes that has a lot of "set-aside" steps along the way (meaning I'm going to drive you crazy saying "do this…then set aside.") You'll see what I mean.
Finally, to address an issue raised here a couple of weeks ago: I'm going to watch The Princess Bride for the first time ever this week.
Throw the chicken into a pot and cover it with a bunch of chicken broth or stock. Bring it to a boil, then simmer it with the lid on for 30 minutes. After that, turn off the heat and let it sit in the pot for an additional thirty minutes.
After that, take the chicken out of the pot and shred all the meat. Get ridda the bones, but keep the broth that the chicken cooked in. Set this all aside. (This will not be the first time I say "set aside" in this post. Sorry.)
Meantime, cook the pasta. If you can find it, get this kind. I love it. It's like macaroni without the curl, and half the size.
That made no sense.
Anyway, just cook the stuff ahead of time. Then rinse it with cold water and toss it with a little olive oil. I like this better than throwing the pasta in to cook with the soup, because I have deeply rooted issues and imagine that all the starchy stuff would fall into the soup, which it would, which is just fine for normal people who don't have issues, but for me I just think of all the starch floating around in the soup.
Don't be like me.
Another "set aside" item: mince up a bunch of oregano. Heat a little skillet over medium-high heat, then drizzle in some olive oil. Throw the oregano into the olive oil, then turn off the heat, stirring the oregano constantly for a good minute or so. Your kitchen will smell like oregano, and this concoction is going to make the soup so darn good, you'll cry.
You can also use dried oregano flakes! Heating it up in the olive oil really awakens the flavor. If you're using the dried stuff, though, use half the quantity since dried herbs are quite a bit stronger.
Next, dice up some onion and green bell pepper (I think red would be nice; I just didn't have any)…
And some jalapeno for heat. You can leave this out if your family can't HANDLE the spice, but after it's all said and done, it really turns out to be nice and mild, with a little bit of spice.
I love jalapenos.
Set Aside Item #254: Chop up a can of whole tomatoes. Then set. Them aside.
Set aside, set aside, set aside-side-side
Set aside, set aside, set aside-side-side
Set aside, set aside, set aside-side-side
Set ASIDE
Set aside-side-side
I feel better now. I hope you do, too.
Throw all the veggies into a pot (sorry about all the different pots. you can plan ahead and reuse the same pot if you have the time) with a little olive oil, and saute them over medium-high heat.
Sprinkle in some salt and pepper…
Then cook 'em for about ten minutes, or until they're tender and golden brown.
Next, pour in the chicken broth…
And all the oregano and olive oil from the little skillet. Look at that gorgeous oil. When you serve the soup, a little bit will rise to the surface of the soup and you'll want to dip a big hunk of bread in it.
I speak from experience here.
Then throw in salt and pepper and simmer it just a few minutes to heat it all up.
Dish it up, then sprinkle on plenty of Parmesan cheese. Big, fat shavings are the best…but all I had was this pregrated stuff. And it was just fine.
(Get it?)
Yum, yum. Hooray for cooler weather! And hooray for soups that make your soul sing.
Off to see what the Princess Bride passion is all about,
Pioneer Woman
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Italian Chicken Soup
- Prep Time:
- Cook Time:
- Difficulty:
- Easy
- Servings:
- 8
- 1 box Ditalini Pasta (very Short Macaroni-type Pasta Noodles)
- 1 Tablespoon Olive Oil
- 1 whole Cut Up Fryer Chicken
- 8 cups Low Sodium Chicken Broth
- 1 whole Medium Onion, Diced
- 2 whole Green Bell Peppers, Diced
- 2 stalks Celery, Diced
- 2 whole Fresh Jalapenos, Diced
- 1 Tablespoon Olive Oil
- 1 can (28-ounce) Can Whole Tomatoes
- 2 cups Heavy Cream
- 1/3 cup Extra Virgin Olive Oil
- 4 Tablespoons Minced Fresh Oregano
- Salt And Freshly Ground Pepper, To Taste
- Parmesan Cheese Shavings, For Serving
Preparation Instructions
Cook pasta in a pot according to package directions, being sure not to overcook it. Drain and rinse in cold water to cool. Toss in 1 tablespoon olive oil and set aside.
Place chicken in a large pot or dutch oven and cover in chicken stock. Bring to a boil, then simmer chicken, covered, for 30 minutes. Turn off heat and leave covered for 30 minutes. Remove chicken from pot and shred meat. Discard bones and set meat aside.
Dice canned tomatoes and return them to their juice. Set aside.
Heat a small skillet over medium high heat. Add olive oil and oregano and turn off heat, stirring over the next minute to keep oregano from burning. Set this aside.
Either pour off chicken broth into a separate container or use a new pot to saute onion, green pepper, celery, and jalapenos in 1 tablespoon olive oil over medium heat until tender and golden brown, about 10 minutes. Add chicken broth, shredded chicken, and tomatoes with their juice. Bring to a boil, then reduce to a simmer. Add cooked pasta, cream, and all the oregano and olive oil from the small skillet. Stir to combine. Turn off heat.
Serve with lots of Parmesan sprinkled on the top--the more the better! Crusty Italian bread is good, too.
430 Comments and 83 Replies
Kathryn On Monday, September 12 at 7:45 am
This looks like such a delicious and hearty soup – perfect for the cooler weather.
Lisa @ www.bakedinmaine.com On Tuesday, September 13 at 12:07 pm
Oh, I'm looking forward to the soup and NOT the cooler weather, lol!
Sandi On Monday, September 12 at 7:45 am
Sandi On Monday, September 12 at 3:40 pm
Oh my………..I thought maybe the Princess Bride thing might slip by….NOT
I have not seen it either………YIKES…………..
Kellie On Monday, September 12 at 9:36 pm
LOL…and SOUP is the perfect accompaniment to The Princess Bride. But in all fairness, you might have to watch it more than once to begin to love the silly. You and your family have fun stormin' the castle.
Lisa @ www.bakedinmaine.com On Tuesday, September 13 at 12:10 pm
Dumb question. Who stars in "Princess Bride"?
Erin J. On Wednesday, September 14 at 10:50 am
Lisa – Cary Elwes & Robin Wright (used to be Penn)
Liz @ Microwave Goddess On Monday, September 12 at 7:47 am
Love it! Can't wait to try it, I've been totally obsessed with soups and stews as well with our shock of Fall weather recently.
Summer On Monday, September 12 at 7:48 am
Yum! Looks good!
Bev Weidner On Monday, September 12 at 7:49 am
I can't breath. I can't see. I can't think. What's my name?
I need to sit down.
And then stick my entire head in that soup.
Lorelei On Monday, September 12 at 8:58 am
I can't believe it's Ree's first time watching it either…. It's downright INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!
HandyMaam On Monday, September 12 at 9:14 am
How long do you suppose it will be until Ree starts saying "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!"?
Bev On Monday, September 12 at 9:25 am
It may be the first, but it won't be the last time she watches…and the quotes, I'll be watching for her quotes!
Lynne On Monday, September 12 at 9:48 am
Please watch all the way through the credits so you can listen to the amazing song at the end. It has really nothing to do with the movie but it's worth it.
Lorelei On Monday, September 12 at 10:06 am
My young son frequently misuses words, so I always say, in my best Inigo accent, "I do not think that word means what you think it means".
Judy On Monday, September 12 at 10:15 am
She has no idea what she is getting herself into. I can't stand turning the channel whenever I happen upon it.
Chanon On Monday, September 12 at 10:22 am
I think her first quote will be "I'm not a witch, I'm your wife!" BEST MOVIE EVER.
Michelle (aka mybelle101) On Monday, September 12 at 10:40 am
That was my reaction, too! Oh, Ree…you are goign to love it. That movie is infinitely quotable. One of my favorites: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means". Although "I'm not a witch, I'm your wife!" could definitely also see some use…
Oop, just saw Lorelei likes it (the quote), too!
Christienne On Monday, September 12 at 10:41 am
Amazing ain't it!?
I can't wait to hear how she likes the "clearly I can't choose the one in front of me… " scene!!
And how many times will she say "My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father…"
Jessica Harwood On Monday, September 12 at 10:49 am
INCONCEIVABLE is right! How can someone who loves movies and talks about them all the time not have seen Princess Bride? I grew up watching this movie and loved it since I was little. Now I must watch it again ….. maybe with a big bowl of this soup. Inigo and I can be kindred spirits and be nursed back to health after the shock of learning inconceivable news.
Amanda Muirhead On Monday, September 12 at 11:29 am
I cannot believe it!!! I expect many PB quotes here soon…. as you wish
Carole On Monday, September 12 at 11:37 am
"As you wish…"
Love that movie!
Chriseda On Monday, September 12 at 12:14 pm
Definatley top 5 favorite all time movies – I use lines from it almost weekly. I have used the name "Inigo Montoya" on "Hello, my name is…" labels at events. She will be hooked and have to watch it a bazillion times. I will make this soup and watch the movie next time I get a headcold (always do).
Mistie On Monday, September 12 at 12:27 pm
It really is an awesome movie. We haven't watched it in a while and yet my not-quite-twelve-year-old was walking around this weekend saying "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!" It was kind of funny.
AngAK On Monday, September 12 at 1:47 pm
there are definitely 2 camps when it comes to this movie–you either love it or you don't. I have never been able to sit through the whole thing—can't see the appeal of it at all. at all. it's a mystery.
KatyE On Monday, September 12 at 1:48 pm
That's what I said! How can this be?
And as a side note: Anybody want a peanut?
Jocelyn in oc On Monday, September 12 at 2:58 pm
Ree, where did you go wrong? Was it a bad date who stood you up when you were supposed to see this movie? This is a classic. We know you will love it, and miss all the time you could have been quoting it! Enjoy!
Jennifer S On Monday, September 12 at 4:01 pm
i am definitely in the LOVE IT camp – looking forward to some quotes
Kate On Monday, September 12 at 4:08 pm
Dare I hope that it will soon be featured as a PW Entertainment quiz? Am crossing my fingers…
moortin On Monday, September 12 at 4:18 pm
OK. I had to skip the recipe and go straight to comments when I heard the you were finally going to watch this. I so would love to be there for this event. Ha. Nothing like watching someone get as tickled at this movie as I know you will. Maybe you need to give someone the camera so that we can see your reactions.
Sarah @ The Cyclist's Wife On Monday, September 12 at 5:29 pm
I know?! I can't believe you haven't seen it Ree! Enjoy, you will LOVE!
Amy Z. On Monday, September 12 at 7:17 pm
Bonnievb On Monday, September 12 at 8:30 pm
The soup looks wonderful and have fun storming the castle.
TZStLouis On Tuesday, September 13 at 2:05 pm
Well, now Ree will know, when (heaven forbid) she's had a bad day, that she can say she's "been mostly dead all day" and we won't mock her pain.
Sam On Tuesday, September 13 at 5:22 pm
I love that Mandy Patinkin said that Inigo Montoya was his favorite role ever.
Tara Kizer On Tuesday, September 13 at 7:03 pm
Have you made the soup yet Bev? It looks fab…may have to put it in my menu planner in the next couple of weeks. Hope you are enjoying your mortar & pestle! I thought of you while at Williams Sonoma this weekend
Man…how can you go this long without having seen Princess Bride! That's one of Reid and I's favorites. "As you wiiiiiiiiisssssshhhhhh!"
Jenn On Wednesday, September 14 at 3:01 pm
That is my all time most favorite movie ever. We treat it like the rocky horror picture show around here and it's a family interactive event. "Stop rhyming, and I mean it! Anybody want a peanut?"
Hunter's Mimi On Tuesday, September 27 at 6:17 am
Wuv. Twue Wuv.
Jodie (www.allgoodinmommyhood.com) On Monday, September 12 at 7:57 am
I agree – the lifting of the warm weather makes soups even more delish. Can't wait to try this one!
Jacque On Monday, September 12 at 7:58 am
It's still hot here in Hilton Head, SC, but when it cools down I will be making this. I make it like you do and also add Cannelini beans and spinach. Love soups…yum!
Angus On Monday, September 12 at 12:41 pm
Yeah, it's 105 here in Austin, TX, today, but I'm bookmarking this for later use. Like maybe November!
Sally On Monday, September 12 at 7:59 am
While this looks delish, please, please, please make up a recipe for Italian Wedding Soup? Now, there's the bomb!
Robin On Tuesday, September 13 at 10:35 am
I LOVE Italian Wedding Soup. Mine takes two days to make and it is totally worth it. I freeze some for those who might need it in the throes of a Midwest winter. I would love to see (and maybe there is one here) PW's recipe for Pasta Fagiole, too.
Emily On Monday, September 12 at 7:59 am
Is there a reason to chop a can of whole tomatoes, rather than just using a can of chopped tomatoes?
Paula On Monday, September 12 at 8:17 am
LOL – that was my question exactly!
I'll have to use the dried oregano – my oregano all died this year. I have more basil than I can ever use, but no oregano. Next year, I promise myself, next year.
And yes – soup weather. I made a pot of spicy potato corn chowder and a pot of vegetable barley this weekend. Was going to make chicken and never got around to it – and, after seeing this recipe, I think it was fate! This looks delicious!
beth On Monday, September 12 at 8:32 am
I think whole tomatoes are softer and work better in soup. The diced varieties aren't steamed or something, they're more like what you'd put on your taco! I usually cut them right over the soup so the juices drain there and not on my counter.
istillhatepeas On Monday, September 12 at 4:27 pm
I think generally whole tomatoes are better quality than pre-diced. And they certainly taste better.
Paula P. On Monday, September 12 at 5:51 pm
I never use diced tomatoes for anything, they just seem to have a tinny taste to them. If you feel like you don't want to take the time to use whole tomatoes than I would suggest using the diced, but cook them in the broth for awhile so they absorb some of that flavor.
And I'm definitely in the Pro Princess category. It has a little bit of everything in it where you're boys should like it and your girls will too.
Jane On Thursday, September 15 at 4:20 pm
Can I get away with using fresh tomotaes?
Jane On Thursday, September 15 at 4:21 pm
Sorry, I mean "tomatoes." ^_^
Elizabeth On Tuesday, September 20 at 10:40 pm
hey Emily. What I have heard is because whole tomatoes are much more flavorful. I always get the whole ones and chop them up if needed.
susie t. On Monday, September 12 at 8:00 am
Yummy! Love the bowl too- what about another Fiestaware giveaway???
Cheryl Barker On Monday, September 12 at 8:00 am
Some of us are gonna need more pots!
Laura B. On Monday, September 12 at 8:00 am
That looks delicious, even without the heavy cream! I agree with the idea of adding white beans and spinach. And I cannot believe you haven't seen The Princess Bride yet. You. Will. LOVE. IT.
Melissa B On Monday, September 12 at 8:01 am
Yay, my hubby has shared his cold with me(boo), so soup sounds perfect! Hope you enjoy this princess bride. It is silly, funny and romantic. Have fun spotting all the big name stars that are in it.
Hatti On Monday, September 12 at 8:01 am
I cannot believe you have not seen that film! Best. Film. Ever. No question….so many quotable lines!
Soup looks yum by the way… =) xx
WebSavvyMom On Monday, September 12 at 8:02 am
–>We're still pulling red and green peppers from our garden plus jalepenos. This may be a perfect week to try out this soup. We can HANDLE the heat in our house.
Virginia On Monday, September 12 at 8:02 am
I don't really like soup (am I weird?) but this looks really good. I might have to try it.
Corgi3Mom On Wednesday, September 14 at 9:49 am
Yay! Someone else who doesn't "do" soup!!! I just KNEW there had to be someone else out there! Thanks, Virginia, for being out there! My husband thinks I am strange and had some sort of frightening childhood experience that scarred me for life and that caused me to not like soup. Not the case. Just don't care for soup.
This recipe does look good, though.
sherri lynn @ life of a wife On Monday, September 12 at 8:04 am
This sounds delicious! I am all about soups in the fall! So thankful that the weather has been turning cooler!
Jennifer T On Monday, September 12 at 8:04 am
Yummy! I made soup this weekend too I envy your pretty Fiesta bowl!
Elaine Pool On Monday, September 12 at 8:08 am
Watch out for the ROUSes!!!!
Vicki (Piggledy) On Monday, September 12 at 10:30 pm
Melanie F On Monday, December 5 at 12:27 pm
Rodents of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.
Yogamama On Monday, September 12 at 8:11 am
Looks delish, I was in the mood for soup yesterday and made a pot of spicy corn chowder… I luv soup, makes you feel warm and safe.
Jess M. On Monday, September 12 at 8:12 am
I'm so glad you've decided to watch The Princess Bride. I highly doubt you'll regret it. In return, I promise to make this soup as soon as I can get my hands back on my Le Creuset French Oven, as it's currently in storage. (By then, maybe the temperature won't be 80 degrees every single day and we'll even be in the mood for soup!)
LindyB On Monday, September 12 at 11:49 pm
I WISH it was only 80 every day!!! Ree – Enjoy The Princess Bride – I love the show…actually my whole family does. SO many quotes. Wonder if we should wager on which one will be the first quote you use???
tj On Monday, September 12 at 8:13 am
…Great bowls of soup – I'm gonna love this recipe! (get it? ;o)
…And Ree? You know I love ya, right? Right? Well I do. But seriously, I can't HANDLE the dishes I would have to do after making this soup! *giggle*snort* ;o) Okay, couldn't one cook the pasta in the chicken broth and save the broth still? And could one sautee the veggies in the same skillet as the oregano? And a lil' starch in your diet is good for you right? I heard it makes you sit up straight. Alright, alright, not really, I just made that up.
…Anyway, I'm picturing this with a spoon in one hand and the other hand full of crusty bread slathered with real butter. Who's with me?
…Thanks Ree for the recipe!
…Blessings :o)
K.Young On Monday, September 12 at 1:57 pm
I'm with ya, tj!
melly On Friday, September 16 at 10:24 am
there's no way i would every use that many pans. here's how i would do it:
saute the veggies.herbs in the bottom of the pot you're going to make the soup in. add the chicken broth and some boneless skinless chicken thighs (i like thighs) and cook for about 30 mins. take out the chicken, debone and chop it, and add it back to the pot with the tomatoes. (don't bother dicing, just crush them up out of the can with your hands before throwing them in.) cook until bout 10-15 minutes before serving, then throw in the pasta. add the cream if you want to, but i won't because i don't like cream in soup.
voila. one pot, one cutting board. TA DA
Jodi On Monday, September 12 at 8:14 am
MAMA MIA! This looks really dang good…I'm makin' it the first time the weather drops below 80 degrees!
Blog is the New Black On Monday, September 12 at 8:15 am
Love this soup- looks incredibly delicious!
Helene On Monday, September 12 at 8:15 am
I am back in the kitchen making soups also. It was a bit too warm this summer. I don't usually use heavy cream in soups but will give this a try.
Emmy On Monday, September 12 at 8:16 am
WHAT! The Queen of Film-dom? I'm speechless.
"Anybody want a peanut?"
Theresa in Alberta On Monday, September 12 at 8:17 am
I have not watch princess bride in a couple of years, I think I may watch it again this week also, right after I make that soup minus the Jalapenos
Darci On Monday, September 12 at 8:17 am
Fetch me that pot, Farm Boy
As you wish….
We played the theme song at our wedding…it runs over the end credits.
JanAnd On Monday, September 12 at 9:57 am
"Mawwiage. . . " Just couldn't resist! Now I'm off to "have fun storming the castle."
Darci On Monday, September 12 at 10:12 am
My husband begged for that line but I just couldn't do it. We say it all the time.
Mary Kay On Monday, September 12 at 11:08 am
WE LOVE THE PRINCESS BRIDE!!!!!! It has more one-liners than almost any other film. We have a priest that comes from Rochester, NY to visit our parish here in San Diego every other year. The minute we see him the giggles begin, because he sounds JUST like the priest in the Princess Bride.! I am NOT kidding. "Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday." It is INCONCEIVABLE that you have not seen it!
Amy On Tuesday, September 13 at 8:14 am
I own the soundtrack and love to sing "Storybook Story". I wonder if your priest came from Nebraska. I took pictures for a wedding once, that the ushers and I were giggling in the back of the church because the priest sounded just like the one from the movie.
Kim in Nebraska On Monday, September 12 at 8:20 am
I say bring on the soup recipes! I love this time of year & when it's cold out I make soup probably 2 times a week. This soup looks delicious I cant' wait to try it!
Urban Wife On Monday, September 12 at 8:21 am
So glad to have another soup for my fall repertoire!
Terri A. On Monday, September 12 at 8:22 am
This looks so good and I can't wait to hear how much you LOVE Princess Bride!
Laura in Georgia On Monday, September 12 at 8:23 am
I sit here, sniffling from my first cold of the season, thinking that this soup might just make me feel better. Looks like I'm going to the store today. As for The Princess Bride? It will bring a whole new level to your obsession with quoting movies.
kristi On Monday, September 12 at 8:24 am
I'm so glad you will be going soup crazy, I can fill up my freezer! I'm also so glad you will be watching The Princess Bride, hope you post your review in the movie section!!!
Kelly R On Monday, September 12 at 8:25 am
Will make this week even though we are going back to three digit temps. So ready for soup weather!! Bread, soup and brisk, cool air.
Alicia On Monday, September 12 at 8:26 am
You'll love the Princess Bride. I can't believe you've never watched. Absolutely, to die for.
Oh and thanks for the soup recipe as well.
Now back to the Princess Bride.
Candy Lane On Monday, September 12 at 8:26 am
Oh Ree, that looks delicious! (Commence wiping the drool from the keyboard.)
Claire D On Monday, September 12 at 8:28 am
The soup looks fab but….
The Princess Bride is absolutely fab. Get your whole family to watch – yes even MM and the boys. I've seen a bunch of Navy Pilots sit down and really enjoy it as much as my 8 year old niece!
Beth On Monday, September 12 at 8:30 am
that's a bowl of love right there. I think zucchini and carrots would be good too. I love lots of chunks in my soup! Keep em' coming. I'm ready for soup too!!!!
Marlo Haft On Monday, September 12 at 8:31 am
Will adding this one to the list for those cold days
Karen in Kansas On Monday, September 12 at 8:32 am
Yum, looks great for fall. Will have to give this a try soon. We have sandwich and soup nights on Fridays and then do something together, game or movie usually. May sneak in some spinach.
Glad you are watching the Princess Bride, our family loves it, even the husband will get sucked in when it's on. Hope you enjoy it, let us know.
tracy On Monday, September 12 at 8:33 am
That looks wonderful! I love AUTUMN and soup weather!
Catherine W. On Monday, September 12 at 8:34 am
I can't believe you have not seen Princess Bride. You will have many quotes to add to your arsenal after this! Can't wait to make this soup, it looks wonderful.
CarlyW On Monday, September 12 at 8:35 am
THANK YOU. I've been totally stressed out since you mentioned you hadn't seen The Princess Bride. My OCD couldn't handle it.
Donja On Monday, September 12 at 8:36 am
My name is Indigo Montoya, you kill my father, prepare to die. You'll understand after you watch Princess Bride!
Michelle On Monday, September 12 at 8:37 am
serious question from a non-cook. What do I do with the chicken skin? Do I just remove it after the chicken is cooked? (or mostly dead) see what I did there?
Tulip's Mom On Monday, September 12 at 8:58 am
What I should do is throw it away, along with the bones and other icky stuff. What I DO is feed some to the dog. No, you're right — remove it after the chicken is cooked and toss it, along with the other refuse.
Nicki On Monday, September 12 at 11:53 am
"He distinctly said 'To blaaaayve' which as we all know means 'To bluff'! So you were probably playing cards, and he cheated!"
Michelle On Monday, September 12 at 2:19 pm
Liar! Liar! he said "True Love"
Carolyn from Maryland On Monday, September 12 at 8:37 am
With the first fall chill in the air, soup is on my mind too. Can't wait to try this!
Princess Bride isn't GWTW, but it's a classic in its own right. I hope you enjoy all the hilarity… it sort of reminds me of an extended Chaucer story with a modern twist.
Liz Aiello On Monday, September 12 at 8:42 am
I feel like I just got vertigo when you said you'd never seen Princess Bride before. I love it so much my fiance proposed to me by reenacting one of the scenes:
Erin On Monday, September 12 at 12:37 pm
That was adorable!
Joules On Monday, September 12 at 12:59 pm
So sweet! Ah, mawwiage!
Tracy On Monday, September 12 at 5:49 pm
How detailed and thoughtful of him (and your conspiring friends)! Thanks for sharing
Carrie S On Monday, September 12 at 8:44 am
The soup looks fantastic–I'll totally be trying this in a few weeks. Also, give the Princess Bride more than one chance. I enjoyed it the first time around, but I think it gets better as you watch it again and again.
Ilse On Monday, September 12 at 8:45 am
Wow this looks good! I really want to try it, but as a Dutch gal, I have no idea what a fryer chicken is. Does anyone know how much chicken meat that (roughly) translates into? As in: how much chicken breast do I substitute? Thanks!
Pauline On Monday, September 12 at 4:47 pm
She just started with a whole chicken. Around here [Ohio] the fryers and roasters are smaller than the stewing chickens. When I make chicken soup or stew with dumplings [let's NOT get started on the dumpling argument again] I just use whatever chicken I have in the freezer that was on sale. Throw however much of, whatever kind of, chicken your family will eat into the pot and simmer it untill done. Hey, it's your soup- there are no set rules for soup. Well, maybe, DON'T put hot pepper in the cabbage/ham soup!
Ilse On Tuesday, September 13 at 3:44 am
Very helpful, thank you Pauline!
Sally On Tuesday, September 13 at 4:25 am
I'd use 2 whole chicken breasts (4 halves) for this.
Jan B On Monday, September 12 at 8:46 am
Oh my! I cannot wrap my head around the fact you haven't seen The Princess Bride.
Christy On Monday, September 12 at 8:47 am
This soup looks awesome and I am totally going to make it. I have a question though for all you people who Do Stuff in slow cookers more than I do. Could this be a make it in the slow cooker thing? I'm thinking if you saute the vegetables first, and then throw everything into the slow cooker except for the cream, oregano/oil mixture, and..maybe leave the pasta out until the end? Let it cook for some number of hours (help smarter people than me – how long?) and then take the chicken out, shred it, throw it back, add the pasta (cooked already I'm thinking?), let it go another 20 minutes or something and then finish it with the oregano mixture and cream? Would that work?
I've cooked like two things ever in my slow cooker and am desperately trying to find more ways to use it. Thanks for any guidance smart cooking people!
Judith On Tuesday, September 13 at 6:04 am
I wouldn't know why this wouldn't work. Slow cookers are so flexible!! I would saute the veggies only a little bit, still crunchy. Otherwise they would get to mushy in the soup. But you could simmer the broth, chicken, veggies for most of the day on low if your chicken is raw. Then get your chicken out, shred it, add it back to the slow cooker, add your cooked pasta, cream and oregano and you are good to go!
Christy On Wednesday, September 14 at 8:25 am
Thanks for the encouragement Judith! I made this for dinner last night and it was a hit all the way around. I didn't have a can of tomatoes and I'm totally lazy so I grabbed about 3 cups of cherry tomatoes from the garden, halved them, and threw them in with a small can of low sodium V8. I know, ridiculous. But it worked! Thanks so much for the help!
Sue On Monday, September 12 at 8:52 am
This looks fabulous. Eating this if you have a cold would be liking wrapping yourself up in a big fluffy blanket full of goodness.
Rachel On Monday, September 12 at 8:54 am
I have been craving soups for the last week. Its still a little on the warm side (90 degrees today), but pretty soon, we're going to be eating a ton of soup! Please keep the soup recipes coming!
Alyson On Monday, September 12 at 8:54 am
You have NEVER watched The Princess Bride???? Woman, where have you been???
Wonderful movie which I am sure you know by now.
This soup looks so delicious. I can't wait to try it. I could live off of soup.
RazzBari On Monday, September 12 at 8:56 am
I predict after seeing TPB, you will post a recipe for an MLT – a mutton-lettuce-and-tomato sandwich where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe… 8)
(Don't feel bad, I hadn't seen it until about 5 years ago when my sister & niece accompanied my folks for their Memorial Day visit. Dad & Sis were tossing around lines like mutton-lettuce-and-tomato sandwich and I finally had to ask them *what* in the world were they talking about? They couldn't believe I hadn't seen the movie, so we traipsed down to the library and checked out the DVD. After we had seen it and everyone had gone to bed, I watched it again with the commentary turned on. It rocketed to the top of my 'movies to watch when you're home sick in bed' list…)
Sally Morris On Monday, September 12 at 8:56 am
You've never seen The Princess Bride?? Inconceivable!!! And the soup looks yummy.
Soup is my favorite food, I'll definitely try it.
Susan On Monday, September 12 at 8:58 am
I started reading about the recipe and got to the line about never seeing Princess Bride and my brain said "NO WAY!" Oh the quotable lines from that movie. We wore out one copy of the movie and had to get another. Love, love, love it!!!! Now I can get back to the recipe.
Leslie On Monday, September 12 at 8:58 am
Can't wait to try this! Thank you for posting. Enjoy the Princess Bride. Your girls will love it! I have just gotten my daughter attached to that movie.
Jeanette On Monday, September 12 at 9:02 am
This looks like it will be a winner in my house :). You are going to LOVE Princess Bride!! I can already predict some one-liners will be coming on this here blog ;0. Maybe even a quiz!!!
L On Monday, September 12 at 9:04 am
yummy looking soup, now I know what to do with all the extra oregano in my yard.
The Princess Bride is one of the best movies of all time, and the book is just as hilarious, if not more
Shari from Ohio On Monday, September 12 at 9:04 am
An Italian dish without a bit of garlic?
My grandma lied to me then……she said all Italian food has garlic.
btw…………you'll absolutely, positively love The Princess Bride
My kids loved it because Andre' the Giant was in it and they were (are) HUGE wrestling fans
Denise On Monday, September 12 at 9:11 am
I am SHOCKED and appalled that Pioneer Woman has never watched the Princess Bride until now. I am SURE I recommended it to you many moons ago during one of your contests/questions. My all-time favorite movie…can't wait to hear your opinions.
Misty On Monday, September 12 at 9:12 am
I will have to make this for the weekend.
I want some right now.
Diann On Monday, September 12 at 9:16 am
a dweam wiffin a dweam…
Lorelei On Monday, September 12 at 11:16 am
I have Dr's appointments all morning so I am reading these as I wait. I had forgottenabout some of these hilarious lines!! And they fit so well whether talking about amazing soup or the secrets of life.
D Weiser On Monday, September 12 at 9:16 am
Yes, I just yelled that out loud. It is my favorite movie, hands down. It was perfectly cast, and is filled with so many wonderful lines–OMG! I am so glad you are righting this wrong by watching the movie. I guarantee you will watch it many more times to come.
My favorite line? When Fezzik, played by Andre the Giant, replies to Vizzini: "I only doggie paddle."
BWAH HA HA HA–that always cracks me up. And I love the role of Miracle Max played by Billy Crystal: "it just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead…."
Ha ha. HA HA HA HA HA!
I am so glad you are going to watch the greatest movie ever made.
As you wish.
Allyn On Monday, September 12 at 9:16 am
This looked great, until I got to the two cups cream. Sigh, dairy allergies are no fun.
I wonder if coconut milk would alter the flavor too much.
sally On Monday, September 12 at 10:09 am
I'd just leave it out. In fact, I plan on leaving it out. I don't think it's essential to the soup.
Jennifer On Monday, September 12 at 11:28 pm
If you want the creaminess and can do soy, I think unsweetened/unflavored soy creamer would have less impact on the flavor.
Sandy On Tuesday, September 13 at 7:18 pm
I don't mix meat and milk, so made it yesterday without the cream — still great.
Holly On Monday, September 19 at 10:51 pm
I made this yesterday. Great recipe, but next time I might either leave out the cream all together or reduce it significantly — it was a bit too much cream for my liking.
Debbie J. On Monday, September 12 at 9:27 am
I just printed it out and will be making it soon.
The Princess Bride – one of my favorites. It is a wonderful fairy tale that pokes fun at it self but it's still so good. A few favorite lines:
As you wish.
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Debbie On Monday, September 12 at 9:33 am
I can't believe you've never seen the Princess Bride!
Julie P On Monday, September 12 at 9:33 am
Okay…so I was COMPLETELY roped in by the picture of the yummy soup…but then COMPLETELY distracted by the fact you had never seen the Princess Bride…wow.
Pauline On Monday, September 12 at 9:35 am
"Set aside" -we do that all the time! The resturant guys do it because it is too hard to get everything added at just the right time so everything comes out done at the end. My son and I just watched "The Princess Bride", with my 8 yr. and 18 month granddaughters this weekend. I couldn't believe Emma had never seen it!! Dan, now 33, was little when it came out. He saw it then, but they just get new movies these days. He laughed hysterically and the kid kept saying- "What? That's not right!! They can"t do that!" We got "Cat Ballou", starring Jane Fonda, [from my youth] and "The Frog Prince", also. Live action, with Helen Hunt as the bad princess. I forget the name of the actor who played the frog, but he was really good. My son has now asked me to get some more older movies that they would like. I just requested "Hair", "Jesus Christ -Super Star" and "Monty Python and the Search For The Holy Grail" from Netflix, cause I'd like to watch them again
Pauline On Monday, September 12 at 5:02 pm
We just use a slotted spoon to remove the cooked stuff to a small bowl with enough broth to cover to prevent drying. Then cook the next ingredient and do the same. You may need to add some more water or broth to the original pot as you use it up. I was reminded that you can leave everything in seperate bowls for those who don't like all the ingredients that you used. It turns into a mix your own soup experiance!
Rachael Macry On Monday, September 12 at 9:37 am
Regarding your warning- oh goody, I love soup!!! Bring 'em on!
EQ On Monday, September 12 at 9:39 am
OH,,,,, in love………. I make a soup like this but used garlic and basil………. it is wonderful, am going to try this one, I have fresh oregano in the garden……..
The pasta, is this like the salad semolina pasta? The picture looks the same……..
I love to dunk sour dough warm bread in the soup to get all the juices at the bottom of the bowl, not according to Emily Post, but the heck with her, it is soooooooo goooooooooood!!!
Nancy Wills On Monday, September 12 at 9:41 am
Off to see what the Princess Bride passion is all about,
Pioneer Woman
"AS YOU WiiiiiSH"
BTW can't wait to fix this soup.
Ira On Monday, September 12 at 9:42 am
Happy September – the soup that you made is similar to a Minestrone soup that I make. I notice that you concentrate the chicken soup flavors as you are adding a whole chicken to a chicken broth. You can add a little sizzle with chilli flakes. I also add tomato paste in with the diced tomatoes. It is a great tasty soup for the cold weather.
Linda M On Monday, September 12 at 9:45 am
Never seen Princess Bride????? What, was your face burned by acid or something? Well, once you've seen it, I look forward to your version of the MLT. And by the way, I'm pretty sure Charlie could be classified as a ROUS!
Elizabeth On Monday, September 12 at 9:51 am
You're not going to be able to watch Princess Bride just once. I'd recommend setting aside time for at least 2-3 times.
Connie K. On Monday, September 12 at 9:52 am
I am VERY glad to hear that you are going to be soup obsessed this winter because I am feeling that way too for some reason!!! I was craving soup yesterday (even though it was 80 degrees out) so I grabbed a can of soup and it was awful tasting. I am going to be making all my soups this winter from scratch and I will start with this yummy looking one!
Amy | She Wears Many Hats On Monday, September 12 at 9:58 am
I've been so ready too! I'm actually making soup right now. Wish I would've seen this recipe before I began – YUM!
Sarah @ The Cyclist's Wife On Monday, September 12 at 6:15 pm
I hope you post your soup recipe too!
Marsha in KS On Monday, September 12 at 9:58 am
I too, LOVE soup! My husband…not so much. What soup does MM love?
Tanya - Three Square Meals On Monday, September 12 at 10:02 am
I love that you boil the chicken in the chicken stock and then reuse the stock later in the recipe. That has got to make this taste amazing in itself! Thanks.
Jennifer On Monday, September 12 at 10:03 am
I'm so excited about this soup and The Princess Bride!! Watch out for the R.O.U.S.'s!!!
Marcy Ort On Monday, September 12 at 10:06 am
I was looking for somehting good and soul quenching tonight. Thank you!
Princess Bride is my husbands' and my "movie" – we watched it on our first date 5 years ago. (We both loved it before then), our children (ages 10, 12 and 13) quote from it on an almost continual basis. ENJOY IY!
FLWendy On Monday, September 12 at 10:07 am
You've never seen Princess Bride?! "Inconceivable"!
Amber in Texas On Monday, September 12 at 10:09 am
Yum this looks amazing.
Also, watched the show again this weekend…. GREAT SHOW!!!!!!!
Trisha On Monday, September 12 at 10:10 am
OMG OMG OMG I don't know what I'm more excited about, making/eating this soup, or hearing what you think about princess bride! its one of my favorite movies of all time…
Enjoy the movie! and the cooler weather
Mimi On Monday, September 12 at 10:11 am
Oh man does that soup look scrumptious!
You will absolutely LOVE the Princess Bride! My son is now 14 and first saw it when he was about 7…..he still quotes random lines at the most opportune times!!!! Enjoy some really great belly laughs and make sure MM and the kids see it as well. This is a popcorn movie if there ever was one!
Katie W. On Monday, September 12 at 10:14 am
Like everyone else, I'm SHOCKED you haven't seen Princess Bride. That is my favorite movie of all time. Used to have it on VHS that we taped from TV back in the day. The soup looks fantastic. Now I'm hungry.
Manding On Monday, September 12 at 10:14 am
on the same page. last week's weather was the transition week. it was high of 70, rainy… it deserved some snuggley comfort food. also, princess diaries was on all weekend and i still have yet to watch it !!!
Lee Ann On Monday, September 12 at 10:36 am
Yum! Can't wait to try this one!
Princess Bride! Crazy movie…gotta love it and all the great lines!
cici On Monday, September 12 at 10:37 am
I make this soup and it is just fabulous!!!
Was looking at soup recipes this weekend!! GMTA!!
Belbelleb On Monday, September 12 at 10:38 am
Yay for The Princess Bride! (and that soup looks deee-vine!)
See, soon you will know what that means
CarolinaGirl On Monday, September 12 at 10:39 am
I am a huge soup fan! Can't wait to try this one!
Erin B. On Monday, September 12 at 10:39 am
Soup is my all-time favorite to make or eat, any time of day! I look forward to the new recipes.
CouponClippingCook On Monday, September 12 at 10:41 am
I'm so getting into the soup mode too. Love this simple recipe…also love the idea of putting some heavy cream in a chicken soup. Sound so good.
Katy Mc On Monday, September 12 at 10:42 am
The soup looks fantastic. And Princess Bride, even better. I bought it for my daughter's birthday. I am thinking of opening it and watching it before I give it to her. Is that so wrong??
Julie J. On Monday, September 12 at 10:46 am
Looks delish! I can eat soup any time of the year.
How about a "pot give a-way" so we can make this????
Mindy On Monday, September 12 at 10:47 am
I'm a huge fan of soup AND The Princess Bride.
Hope you enjoy it!
Belinda K On Monday, September 12 at 10:49 am
Looks scrumptious! So glad you are watching my favorite movie in the entire universe! Even my husband and teen boys love this movie!
Rebecca On Monday, September 12 at 10:56 am
I'm so excited for you to watch The Princess Bride! It truly is a gem of a film. And your soup looks amazing- can't wait to try it! You are delightful, Ree. I enjoy your blog and your recipes.
SusanP in ON On Monday, September 12 at 10:58 am
My that looks good! I just made your cauliflower soup the other day-I think it may be my favourite soup of all time! It had to be done, cauliflower was on sale for .88 and they were huge and gorgeous. My non soup loving husband raves about it–to him dinner needs a fork, not a spoon!!!
Sandi On Monday, September 12 at 3:38 pm
That's how I found Ree's blog…..I googled cauliflower soup and there she was !


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Give boxing a break, it has to be on top for a reason. Everyone says things have gone downhill, that it is boring now, and there are no good fighters but the PPV revenues still keep coming in and people still talk about it about a million times more than any other combat sport.
MMA would do anything to have the reputation and draw value of boxing, and would be have the exact same problems if it did. Top MMA fighters are already becoming more concerned about which fight pays the most instead of which is best challenges their abilities, and I dont blame them for it. Why do anything more than necessary to win and put your entire career at risk, when there are a bigger and bigger paydays waiting for you down the road?
Sure boxing has Mike Tyson, but MMA has people like Tank Abbot, Gary Goodridge, and Bob Sapp that have also taken a gimmick that draws money to make up for diminished or never existent talent.
I know boxing often disappoints, but there have been some real snoozers in MMA also. Does anyone remember that horrendous Shamrock vs Severn Superfight?
If you want to be guaranteed a good show watch something scripted like WWE, but even then **** happens and guys get hurt in a way that makes it necessary to change the script. I guess when it comes down to it, you better of going to the movies.
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If an MMA guy had to fight under boxing rules a seasoned boxer would clean his clock. Hell for that matter if any martial artist would have to fight in a boxer's style (hands only no feet) they would probably loose.
They are totally different styles of fighting! Put a boxer in a ring and tell him he can use his feet against a black belt in martial arts he'll probably loose.
It's like comparing a train to a bus. Sure they will both get you to your destination, but is one really better than the other?
At least they still put boxing on TV. They rarely cover martial art bouts, and TKB is hardly every shown, and that's a sponsored business! Ultimate fighting is only on pay per view, or you have to buy / rent the tapes.
I say be glad at least some form of our sport is on TV!
Oh wow! I never knew that!!
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Edited by - The Wastrel on May 09 2003 15:08:19Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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I watched the replay of the fight on TSN up here in Canada last night. The fight was definitely lagging, but if De La Hoya really had trouble with his left hand the WHOLE bout, that would explain it.
He also doesn't have much motivation against someone like Campas. Throw him in against Trinidad again or his upcoming fight in September which he is OBVIOUSLY pumped for. I'm willing to bet THAT fight would be one to watch.
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Animals Matter
See what Express-News pets columnist Cathy M. Rosenthal has to say about animals.
Monthly Archive for December, 2011
Helping animals: Wilson County group addresses dumped pets and more
Outside of Bexar County, surrounding counties often face many animal challenges, especially from city folk who see rural areas as ideal dumping grounds for unwanted dogs and cats. Perhaps people think these abandoned pets will be adopted by residents in these communities. But residents simply can't absorb the high number of abandoned dogs and cats. Instead, these […] [Read More]
Helping pets: They don't have a shelter, but Alamo Heights Animal Care Services fosters dogs and helps residents with feral cats
Incorporated in 1922, Alamo Heights is a small town surrounded by the City of San Antonio. At the time of the 2000 U.S. Census, Alamo Height's population was just 7,319. And it appears there might be strength in fewer numbers. That's because the City of Alamo Heights Animal Care Services offers a program to help […] [Read More]
Wildlife Rescue & Rehabilitation handles 6,000 wild animals annually
When a baby bird needs help who do you call? Chances are you will contact Wildlife Rescue & Rehabilitation in Kendalia, Texas. Their mission is to rescue, rehabilitate, and release native wildlife, and to provide sanctuary, individualized care, and a voice for other animals in need. That includes helping us all understand how to co-exist […] [Read More]
Dogs helping people: Guide Dogs of Texas
Dogs help people in many ways. They provide friendship, alleviate depression, and bring joy to our lives. But for individuals who are visually impaired, dogs may be an essential part of daily living and can increase their freedom, mobility, and independence. The Guide Dogs of Texas is the only accredited guide dog school in the entire […] [Read More]
Helping animals: SNIPSA finds St. Nick in the nick of time
You don't have to operate an animal shelter to make a difference for animals in San Antonio. Take SNIPSA (Spay-Neuter-Inject-Protect of San Antonio) for example. Their mission is four-fold: to Rescue, Rehabiliate and Re-home adoptable animals from the community and from area shelters that may euthanize pets — and encourage Responsibility within the pet-owning population by […] [Read More]
DaisyCares: Helping dogs and cats during difficult times
If there's one thing all pet owners know for sure, it's that they spend money on their pets, especially for pet food and veterinary care. But these products and services don't come cheap. And, when economic hardship occurs, the cost of caring for a pet may be prohibitive. Yet, during these difficult times, pet owners […] [Read More]


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What's My Alternative: Acupuncture for TMJ
For more than a year, Nancy Moore, 60, of Bellingham, Washington, suffered from debilitating jaw pain. Constant jaw clenching and teeth grinding—a result of the stresses in Moore's life—led her to develop temporomandibular joint dysfunction (TMJ), a condition that occurs when the joint connecting the lower jaw to the skull becomes inflamed and limits jaw mobility. "It felt like someone was driving an ice pick into my ear," says Moore, who often woke up in the middle of the night in pain, had trouble concentrating during the day, and couldn't eat solid foods.
The Conventional Rx: Moore took ibuprofen to temporarily relieve the pain, but her orthodontist told her the only other option would be to undergo realignment surgery. A possible side effect: facial paralysis.
The Alternative Rx: Acupuncture. Figuring she had nothing to lose, Moore signed up for acupuncture sessions once a week. "TMJ pain occurs when energy pathways—or meridians—are blocked in the body," says Joyce Marley, an acupuncturist in New Hartford, New York. Often TMJ is associated with an emotional component, like stress, anxiety, or depression, that can cause teeth grinding or jaw clenching. "When an acupuncturist inserts needles into energy meridians in the body, the pathways become unblocked, releasing tension and emotional buildup and allowing healing to occur," says Marley.
The outcome: Within a few days of her first acupuncture session, Moore was able to eat solid foods again. After just five sessions, her pain was completely gone, and she has remained pain-free for 18 years. "I realized my high-stress life was creating physical pain," Moore says. "So I left journalism and became an acupuncturist." Through her practice, Moore feels she's able to help others discover the power of natural healing.


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The 40 Best Fictional Teachers | Best Movie Teachers | Best TV Teachers
Roberta Guaspari, Music of the Heart
Roberta Guaspari demands her students to live up to their full potential: What starts
as struggling strings program ends at a concert in Carnegie Hall.
Mrs. Edmunds, Bridge to Terabithia
Hippie music teacher Mrs. Edmunds is a make-shift Mom to troubled Jesse; she recognizes his artistic potential; and gives him the much-needed affection his family does not.
Miss Frizzle, The Magic School Bus
The Friz, as she's affectionately known by her students, has the best classroom motto ever: Take chances! Make mistakes! Get messy! Plus, it's hard to compete with a school bus that's magic.
Merlin, The Sword in the Stone
The wizard teaches squire-in-training Wart lessons about gravity, the opposite sex, and the power of flying by transforming him into animals. Where do we sign up?
Bill Rago, Renaissance Man
Anyone that uses Shakespeare to soften up a group of army brats has major teacher cojones.
Katherine Watson, Mona Lisa Smile
Feminist Miss Watson teaches the gals of Wellesley College in the 1950s an invaluable lesson: marriage and career are not mutually exclusive.
Miss Binney, Ramona the Pest
As Ramona says herself, 'Kindergarten would not be Kindergarten without Miss Binney.' The smiley teacher compliments Ramona's Q's, praises her for raising her hand, and patiently explains confusing words.
Mr. Hand, Fast Times At Ridgemont High
Proving that teachers have a sense of humor too, Mr. Hand pranks ultimate prankster Jeff Spicoli with an impromptu history lesson right before Prom.
Mr. Garrison, South Park
He's got dozens of classroom-inappropriate issues, but he and Mr. Hat tell it like it is: "There are no stupid questions. Just stupid people."
Christy Huddleston, Christy
Kellie Martin played an inspirational stick-to-her-guns woman who comes to teach in the Appalachian Mountains. Never heard of her? The series was sadly canceled after 20 episodes.
Mother Superior, The Trouble With Angels
Think a Catholic nun can't possibly relate to rebellious teenage girls? Think again. Despite Mary Clancy's repeated pranks on Mother Superior, she never gives up on her high-spirited pupil.
Professor Bhaer, Little Women
The soft-spoken professor from Germany can teach all ages. He's the beloved tutor of Mrs. Kirke's children and he encourages Jo March to ditch the tabloids and write from the heart.
Professor Keating, Dead Poets Society
Any professor that tears chapters out of textbooks, and actually gets his students to learn more, is one whose class we'd gladly take.
Mrs. Olinski, The View From Saturday
After being paralyzed, Mrs. Olinski loses confidence in her teaching ability. But by the time she's ushered her Academic Team to victory, she and the students have taught each other more than a textbook ever could.
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Um, no mention of fix for battery issue? The author must not be using a 3GS on 3.1
Where in the World is iPhone 3.2?
So it's November, have you seen the iPhone 3.2 beta? We've been over this before -- iPhone 2.2 beta was released on September 25, 2008 and the final version was made available on November 21. So where's 3.2?
Yes, Apple hasn't announced iPhone 3.2, so we can't really call it delayed, but then Apple never announces anything in advance -- all we have are historical patterns and market realities.
Was Apple waiting to integrate iTunes LP and iTunes Extras? They've done that for Apple TV 3.0 already. Where's the iPhone and iPod touch love?
We've already postulated what other features they could be exploring, including Google Maps updates with Latitude (and now, of course, Google Maps Navigation), but given the strained relations, rejection of the former, and brand-new beta status of the latter, 3.2 might be too early. Likewise, Zune HD competitive features like 720p video out.
With the onslaught of new Android software, like HTC Sense UI, MotoBlur, and Android 2.0, could Apple have decided to raise the level of this update? A few minor tweaks were certainly possible for a standard schedule iPhone 3.2, but would Apple delay their frequent update cycle in order to make a more impressive version?
We're not going to get our hopes up, but if Apple is getting ambitious, if Scott Forstall and team are going to "blow us away", we're willing wait. If not, then where is it?
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Where in the World is iPhone 3.2?
I'm using a 3GS on 3.1.2 and have great battery life. The battery issue doesn't effect everyone. Could bug fixes be causing the delay? Maybe, if they're particularly tough to solve, but no reason Apple couldn't have released the beta for 3.2 regardless...
No problems here regarding battery life. 3GS on 3.1.2 with Exchange Server push, CALDEV syncing and GMail via 15 minute fetch. WiFi on. Location On.
Lasts me the day easily, and I charge it up overnight...
I'd have to agree with Mephisto and Rene - 3GS on 3.1.2 here and I run almost all the same stuff Mephisto mentioned and I don't have a problem at all with battery life. I wouldn't consider myself the heaviest user but it definitely gets a beating from me.
On that note, have you done a full restore to 3.1.2? I thought I noticed a slight battery issue when I initially upgraded (though I only used it for 1 day) so I did a full restore and it's definitely just as good as it always was.
I'd also have to agree on why Apple hasn't released a beta yet?! They always seem pretty quick to do so. Though I'd be happy to wait if they told us there would be a huge UI change.
YES. They need to add iTunes LP to the iPhone/iPodT. I have the LP version of Jay-Z album and I wish they content would be on the iPhone.
They also need to get the google maps thing but they might wait until 4.0 since that's a pretty big feature. Or they might not.
They need to add a lot more smaller features I personally think are worth added in a minor update.
- Repeat/Shuffle on the iPod Shortcut
- 3G switch in main menu.
+Search History, Searches the web, Search in text message.
+Content search. Not only titles and subjects.
- Set brightness time out
- Copy within app store
+ a section in the settings to add our own words.
+ words from apps, music artist names automatically added.
- Select a few lines instead of an entire block of text in SMS app
- record phone conversations using Voice Memo App.
These are only a few of what I've kept record of.
Um, no mention of fix for battery issue?
Here's a few...
- Don't use iPhone while sitting at a computer doing things that the computer can do.
- Get out and live life instead of playing games all day.
- Go home to watch a two hour movie, instead of watching it in a friends basement on the iPhone while that friend spends the same two hours texting another friend.
- Find other things to do instead of staring at a gadget all day. Life is short.
There. Your battery will last all day, and you can also enjoy life like a normal person does. :roll:
They also need to fix live updating. It doesn't display the same way on the iphone as it does in iTunes.
Rene you're forgetting that 2.0/2.1 firmwares were disastrous. I almost gave up the phone entirely because of the lockups after installing apps, or the risk of the apple-logo-of-death when you would restart (which required a full phone restore afterward. You might've gone through 5 restores a week), apps crashing, etc.
It wasn't until 2.2 did things get stable enough for the phone to be completely usable. 3.0 is a much more stable firmware so Apple is now able to take their time designing new functionality.
What battery issue?
I want Google Navigation. Not interested in Latitude though it would be nice to have it anyways.
I want Spotlight to search my bookmarks like it does on my Mac
What a strange coincidence to see this post, as I was just thinking the same thing earlier today. Roll on 3.2!
They also need to add " skip this update " in the app store.
"They need to add a lot more smaller features I personally think are worth added in a minor update. - Repeat/Shuffle on the iPod Shortcut - 3G switch in main menu. -Spotlight Search History, Searches the web, Search in text message. Content search. Not only titles and subjects. - Set brightness time out - Copy within app store -Dictionary a section in the settings to add our own words. words from apps, music artist names automatically added. - Select a few lines instead of an entire block of text in SMS app - record phone conversations using Voice Memo App."
I HIGHLY agree with you OmariJames. Well said. Those features right there would hold me loyal to the iPhone for months upon month upon months. Just about until the preview of iPhone 4.0 and the all new .~iPhone Magic~. are shown. Lol iPhone magic is just a quick nickname. But again those features in one update would be awesome.
Speaking of wanting more copy and paste functionality, check out my post in the forums:
Copy n' Paste, Where else Do you Need It?.
I know Apple has a winning formula with the iPhone, but I think the UI is starting to feel a little old. When the iPhone first launched, there wasn't anything at all like it. Now, there is legitimate competition and I think Apple needs to raise the bar again. Being able to tout their superior App store, with it's 10 billion apps (the majority of which are useless, of marginal quality, or redundant with other apps) isn't enough anymore.
@Littleroot I had the battery problem and it took a lot of test to fix it. I tried at least 10 different solutions but finally I did a restore on my phone and input all new info, didn't use a backup to restore info. When I used the restore and backup same thing battery drained quick, some setting are most likely making it use processor power all the time. Battery life is good now.
@fastlane sorry those solutions will work for some people but there really is a problem on some phones. I went to get my car serviced and thought I would surf the internet, had a full battery and it was gone in one hour and that wasn't all internet time, 20 minutes was talking on the phone. Some days I would lose 50% of my battery just using the phone for about 20 minutes, I had all settings like location services, bluetooth, wifi and push email off. This went on for a couple of weeks and tried multiple settings and restores till finally I did a restore without using any old settings.
I hope they put a cancel button for our message app. Ex: wrong person or wrong word you sending to someone. We can have a cancel button to ethier edit or cancel the message.
I agree with Omari, and have said this myself in the past, that there are tons of small things that can be added before a new phone comes out. I still want that drag-able scroll bar in Safari... or at least move the "tap to jump to top" on the left side, and put a "tap to jump to bottom" on the right side.
I doubt Apple would implement a call recorder without including a warning that the other party could hear immediately after it was enabled (at least not in the U.S.) which, in most cases, would defeat the benefit of having it (for protection reasons, anyway).
I want Google Nav!! If Apple and Google were not having such problems, I would say that we would get that in 3.2 since we got street view in 2.2. If the iPhone gets Google Nav will TomTom be kicked out of the App Store for duplicating functionality?? :P I also really like the dockable modes that the Droid has. I've always wanted the iPhone to become an alarm clock and speacialized media player while on the dock that I have. The Droid has a very cool implementation of this that I'd like to see implemented in the iPhone.
If the iPhone gets Google Nav will TomTom be kicked out of the App Store for duplicating functionality??
No. Just like all of the note apps, voice recorder apps, SMS apps, and landscape keyboard apps haven't been kicked out.
Tom Tom will just add the option to make the roads purple and the text orange, then they'll be safe. We need more and more redundant apps... 100,000 isn't enough.
Using the home button to end calls would take away a huge functionality to iphone. Being able to use your phone and scroll through everything while being in a call. I might not need to go through my phone every phone call, but sometimes the person I'm talking to asks me something and I need to look it up. Hit the home button, and now I can find whatever.
@Joe McG
Apple is no Microsoft u know. If history is any indication, the iPhone platform has seen many updates, relatively speaking. So yea, stop being old and grumpy. it shows. Besides, if u hate yr iPhone that much (assuming u own one lol and u r not just a troll), get rid of it and go back to WM. it suits yr mentality better ;)
@Joe McG
and no, Apple fanboys wouldn't use the iPhone in 2015 and claim its the best. Only Microsoft fanboys do that. using XP 10 years after its release (or Win2000, 12 years after release) and still claim its the best. Somehow, I have a feeling that u know exactly what I'm talking about.
reply to text messages from the popup!
it is absolutely insane that i have to close whatever i'm doing and launch messages just to reply to a txt. incredibly frustrating and totally unnecessary.
if this could be structured in a way so that other applications using push nitifications could also take advantage of it, even better, but quick-reply to txts is just silly for apple not to implement.
I think Apple has something up their sleeves. One thing that drives me crazy that should have been implemented since day one was the ability to quick reply SMS. Leaving an app is insane everytime. I read an article a few months ago stating that they were revamping the mail app. That's needed like right now. I also think they should have a better notification process on deck. People are getting antsy.
Here, here!
Simple iPod functionality, why is it missing!?
Mine has simple iPod functionality! There must be something wrong with yours
The battery life on my 3GS is actually pretty good, I also have a 3G both jailbroken and the 3GS lasts a whole lot longer. Even when the two phones had the original software, the 3GS was wayyyy better with battery life and I also did way more with it.
I think the hold up with 3.2 has something to do with Google's strained relationship with Apple. Who knows, maybe in the Next Gen iphone and next gen OS we may not see google Maps on the iphone, which would be kind of stupid on Apple's part, but we will see.
I really hope they blow us away with huge changes to OS 3.2, but I kind of doubt it. They have to save some of the goods for the next Gen Iphone that will probably be released in Jue or July of 2010. All we can do is sit and wait.
I definitely really want a quick reply for SMS messages, a new calendar app, integrated mailbox, a scroll down button in safari, customizeable ringtones/alerts, etc. Flash 10.1 support =], most importantly: a renewed UI and a snappier/faster OS overall.
At this point Im thinking 4.0 is way more likely to fix my woes than 3.2.
Go apple!
ipod player control bluetooth profile update google nav land scape view in home screen while better for me to multi task while driving
I second what Tora Says (November 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 am). For Apple iPhone to start truly pushing into the Corporate market it really needs to improve http proxy authentication support for all its apps. Case in point is that since OS 3.1 the YouTube app http proxy code changed and now doesn't work through proxy, authenticated or not, giving the "Youtube not available" error. Shame cause the Exchange integration works well. Fingers crossed.
Some things i would LOVE to see in the next upgrade...
- Pop up reply for SmS... i've used it in jailbreak and i love it but i cant in 3.1.2 cuz my phone goes into recovery but im surving.
- MORE SMS RINGTONES! It's sad how in a room of 25 people if one iPhone sms ringtone goes off, atleast 3 other people look at there phone because they have the same ringtone.... plz apple! More sms!!
- T by T direction? Maybe?
- Better battery support. I bet you they are working on it now but that would be nice.
- Everything landscape... even the home screen that would be nice.
- Folders? Apps that can go into individual folders would be nice but idk if i like the folder idea now that we have the iPhone search tab.
Yes, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO WORK IN LANDSCAPE MODE, Home Screen, Settings, 3rd party apps! Where is the video out of the FULL iPhone OS Home Screen, apps and all!?
The iPhone really needs to fully support calendar attachments in emails etc!
I do get alot of invitations and there are .ics files in the emails, but i can't add them to the iPhone calendar!
It would be nice if you could use the phone without need to sync the calendar with outlook etc...
Also why not add a backup/restore utility that you could use over WIFI or a VPN connection to the company/home, accessing a SMB/FTP share or similar! It would be nice to have a basic secureity with the possibility to recover the calendar and contact information!
Without the need to subscribe to a service or sync to a local computer...
Some basic audio editing tools and advanced features in the voice recorder would be nice to have the same about the video and photo apps!
Finally! "Even smaller fonts" in diffrent views would be nice to have........
When do we get OS 4.0 ?
flash player and should be able to set themes w/o hacking it and get rid of the 3g restrictions go to www.blackra1n.com to hack ur iphone/itouch go to the bottom of the page and click on the sign of the computer u r and the program does the rest
This update must be huge... I can't wait to see what Apple will add to the iPhone OS... Perhaps better bluetooth functionality, FM radio enabled, more possibilities to manage on-the-go music playlists (create/edit), iCal week view plus invitations (.ics), Safari downloads (as well as Youtube...), customized (features) on the lockscreen (number of unread emails, weather, etc.), new api's to allow faster responsiveness when getting a push notification (twitter, missed calls, etc.)
A lot of ideas will give us a better update ;)
Id like to echo the calls for quick reply sms. I use Irealquick, and it works okay but has some bugs. Some kind of UI customization would be nice even if it just like 2 or 3 themes to choose from. The blue popups are old. How about a way to have the ipod, mail and safari apps close when u are done with them so they dont use all of your memory ( ya i have a 3g)? sb settings lets me close the processes but it would be nice if there were a setting that would do it automatically upon close at least for mail and safari. I guess it would just be nice if i didnt have to JB to get the functionality i want out of the iphone.
I have a Droid Eris and Sinse i got it my iPod touch has become a little dull. I realize really how boring the home screen is. Just 5 pages of rounded squares. I would really like Widgets to become a part of iPhones/iPod Touches. I also would like the droid's ability to jump back to the last 6 apps you have used added to the iPhone.
One last thing that i have wanted for years now on my iPod:
with the iPod you are constantly going to settings to connect to wifi and i change my brightness very often as well. If Apple would make this faster by adding it to the menu bar or a shortcut of some kind that would be great.
My iPhone 3g on 3.1.2 is giving me major problems in terms of performance after the insallation of the aforementioned software and it's been three months of living hell ever since. Even if I have some airtime on the phone if I try to make a simple phone call it says I've reached my call limit I should recharge,I get a lot of missed calls and lately I can't send SMS and mms msgs anymore. Not to mention the major network strength loss issues. May I shouldve just bought a iPod touch because this is what this phone has been reduced to. I need this 3.2 update,to fix these problems.
It's been months now and Apple hasn't released any information on this update. I would have expected something very small to be published as of late but nothing! And its the new year! I'm waiting patiently apple!! I fear the next update will come out when the new iPhone will come out...in May or June!
I agree with everyone but one thing I would like to see is apple giving us the ability fully customize our iPhone with having to jailbreak and unlock our phones. I jailbroke and unlocked my old iPhone 2.0 and it makes my 3gs looking boring. The technology and ability is obviously there but when will they let us do that freely with breaking our warranty. I think apple could really profit from this which could include themes, widgets, custom sounds, custom homescreens, and custom iPod player and etc.
Please allow Bluetooth transfer, from phone to phone on iphone 3gs.its really sad a phone like iphone 3gs doesn't allow you to send photos videos and music using Bluetooth transfer future, all phons got it, even the old crappy ones, so why not iphone 3gs? I know what you going to say, you will say we blocked it because of piracy on music videos photos games apps ringtones, downloaded from iTunes, well is it that hard to encrypt the content downloaded from iTunes? i don't think so. You can stop us from transferring content downloaded via iTunes and app store, but you have no rights to stop us, from transferring our own content like videos photos to our friends via Bluetooth transfer future. You realise by not allowing Bluetooth transfer, you are encouraging iphone users to jailbreak their phones, and in other words you are supporting piracy. Also about custom ringtones? What's up with that? All phones out there allow us to set songs videos as our ringtone, so why not iph one 3gs? Do you really call this a SMART PHONE??? It doesn't even allow GIFS animated pictures. I am so sad and disappointed that i got i phone 3gs,i should have gone with Nokia N97. Have a good day apple. If you stay like that you will not stop piracy.


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CHURUBUSCO — Members of Smith-Green Community Schools showed their concern for students with disabilities during the public work session Monday night.
Greg Wehling from Moake Park Group showed the board the final architectural drawings for a proposed building project.
Wehling explained the $6 million project which includes a new cafeteria for the elementary school, five new classrooms, ADA bathrooms, a new special needs classroom and a new security system at the main entrance at CES.
Churubusco Junior Senior High School will get a completely new air conditioning and heating system, a new security system and offices at the main entrance, updated locker rooms and handicapped accessible stage and seating in the Jason Smith Auditorium.
After months of planning and tweaking the building plan, the board approved the building projects on June 4.
Cathy Petrie, SGCS board president, noticed Wehling did not talk about the locker rooms being ADA accessible.
"I would assume there are students in wheel chairs needing to use the locker rooms," said Petrie.
Wheling said, "There are ramps and railings for the students."
"But what happens if we have a child in there and we have a fire?" asked Petrie.
The board discussed it and said the original design was limited on price. She asked if the board could have it priced both ways.
"We can't get it designed that quickly. The designs are going out for bids on July 23. We would need that design within a week or two," said Wehling.
"I just don't feel good about that. I'm worried about a child's safety," said Petrie.
Tanya Young, board member, said that Andrew Wagner, CJSHS athletic director, and Nick Uecker were in that discussion regarding the locker rooms, but they were given a budget and they had to stick with it.
Wehling said timing is not a problem and said his firm can go ahead and design it.
Board member Michael Sturgis agreed with Petrie.
"We need to prepare those locker rooms with special needs children in mind," said Sturgis.
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Hi All,
Subject: Engine Alarm Systems
I'm very sorry to hear of Emory's engine problems. He's had more than his share of engine problems. But perhaps some good can come from it. Many of us have engine alarms that warn us of overheated engines and engines that loose oil pressure. They came with a lot of the Connies as original equipment but weren't standard and had to be added as extra cost options. Apparently, Emory's Connie wasn't equipped with the alarms and he didn't detect the engine overheating until after the damage was done.
All of our Connies are getting older and more prone to overheating and loss of oil pressure. In view of Emory's experience those of us with Connies which do not have engine alarm systems may want to add them. The basic elements of the engine alarms system are contained in the package shown below:
It's made by Cole Hersee and sells for about $35. There are probably other manufacturers with similar systems. It contains an overheat sensor and an oil pressure sensor which are mounted to the engine and wired to the alarm detector. The alarm detector trips relays which activate alarm lights and bells on the engine instrument consoles. The package contains the two sensors and the detector electronic module. In addition to the package you will need two buzzers and two warning lights per engine. Hooking it up isn't difficult but will take some work.
My estimate is that with the buzzers and lights the cost would be about $120 plus three hours of work per engine. This is a bit of cost and trouble but it protects you from engine damage which could cost as much as $20,000 and put your Connie out of service for a season; pretty good insurance.
I hope, for Emory's sake, that my estimate is wrong but figures of $3000-$3500 per hole for a major engine overhaul keep coming up every time we discuss overhauls.
Hi Emory,
It would be very strange to have only lights on the FB but no buzzer. The lights and buzzer work in parallel so only one wire is needed per engine for the alarm. If you go to all the trouble of running a wire to the FB for a light why chinch a couple bucks for the buzzer. Doesn't make sense.
I suspect that neither the buzzer or light worked because the circuit is disconnected. But buzzers are troublesome so some previous owner may have disconnected or removed it leaving only the light. The wiring under the FB dash is a real rat's nest so it's even possible that the buzzer is still hiding there but is disconnected or non-functional. The lights are pretty bright; it would be hard to miss them. Therefore, I'm inclined to go for options a) and c);neither the buzzer or light worked.
To check the temperature sender run the engines up to full speed. When the temp reaches 193F the alarm should trigger. Or yo can check it with a multimeter.
Maintaining and testing the alarms is a bit of trouble but not maintaining them is, as you have found out, a lot more trouble. We know the engine overheated but apparently the alarm didn't work. Therefore, it was out of order.
I'm a little mystified. Emory states that he had no FB buzzers. It's highly unlikely that if he was running at high speed he would hear the lower station buzzers. He further states that he doesn't know whether the warning lights on the FB work or not. And he doesn't know whether the temp alarms work at all or not. In summary, he could not realistically expect the engine alarms to work.
Apparently he wasn't watching the temps very closely because temps don't go from normal to boiling hot back to below normal temps instantaneously. You don't boil off 3 gallons of antifreeze in a flash.
So he was running blind with little knowledge of the engine temps. He let his guard down and got caught. I'm very sorry for him. It's a disaster. But the moral of all this is don't get careless with engine maintenance. Mistreat your engines or their supporting instrumentation and they will bite you back in the ass (right next to the wallet).
On my boat the audible alarm is a very loud bell located behind the lower station, there is no bell on the flybridge. There is also an alarm silence toggle switch at the lower helm that I often turn off during start up. If that is left off by mistake, there would be no audible warning. (The toggle switch also has a "test" position to check that the bell and lights are operable but this does not necessarily mean the alarm senders are working.)
Sometimes, high coolant temps don't register for the reasons that Bennett described and sometimes they are too late to avoid a meltdown. That's why many engines come with pyrometers that measure exhaust gas temperatures which give an earlier and more reliable warning.
Subject: Pre-Flight Checkouts
On airplanes the consequences of engine failure are much more serious than on boats. That's why pilots do pre-flight checkouts of their engines.
Way back in the 80s I was on a cruise in the Bahamas with friends in a 33' Chris Craft. About the time we were at maximum distance from the States one engine developed a coolant leak. The owner hadn't been changing his zincs regularly and the Sendure heat exchanger corroded out. We disassembled the heat exchanger and plugged the leaks with wooden pegs. That stopped most of the leaks but we still had to refill the cooling system daily.
We hobbled a couple hundred miles back to the states with this makeshift setup checking the coolant regularly. On the last day out the owner decided he wouldn't bother to check the coolant level since we were only going about 10 miles. After five miles the engine lost coolant and overheated. It was totalled and had to be replaced. Fortunately it was a gas engine (not a diesel) so the cost was much lower.
This incident convinced me to do pre-flight checks of the engines every time I use the boat. Now I religously pop the caps of the heat exchangers and check the coolant levels before leaving. I also check the oil level and take a glance at the battery condition on the console voltmeter. This routine only takes a couple minutes but provides a considerable increase in the safety of the trip and I have never had loss of coolant problems.
PS: I also have a prayer stall at the end of the engine room and ask the almighty to bless my engines before each trip. It helps.
Once an engine reaches the zero coolant level destruction of the engine progresses very rapidly. That's why the engine alarms are so important. I watch my engine temps very carefully. They are the first indication of problems with the engines. But it's easy to be distracted and miss the early signs. The alarms usually wake you from your slumber before major engine damage is done. Lights are good but the audibles are the real waker-upper.
Sorry to hear of your engine problem. I've been following the updates. Sounds like the end result will give you a reliable engine, a cleaner engine room and most important a boat that you can ENJOY cruising again!!! Keep the faith....
I too have been following your narratives and can only thank my lucky stars I did not have any apparent damage in April when my port engine got hot... I'm still uneasy that it could show up later, but I ran 900+ miles to Florida afterward with no apparent issues...
Hang in there and try to keep smiling! Picking the banjo also makes you feel better... maybe a good "blues" piece or two?!
Hi all,
Had the boat polished, the yard did a nice job, but the stern Chris Craft emblem got damaged. I believe it was covered here before where one can be ordered. Anyone recall the source?
Subject: Batteries
Back in May of 2007 we had a prolonged thread on the advantages of AGM compared to lead acid wet cell batteries. Arlene and I took the Connie out on Saturday to one of our favorite anchorages. After anchoring I went below to start the genny. No Joy; the battery was dead. Not to worry; I carry a jumper cable for such exigencies. So I jumped the genny battery to the house battery bank. Still no joy; the house battery was low although not dead and there was considerable resistance in the jumper cable. They're made for auto batteries not diesels.
After getting back home, I checked my engine logs for the age of the house batteries. They were installed on July 23, 2002 which makes them just a tad over 9 years old. One was dead but the other still had some life in it. However, at 9 years, I decided they were both ready for retirement. The genny battery was only 5 years old but also needed replacement.
I had one incident earlier this year with the exhaust elbow and turbocharger that set me back about $5000. Replacing all three of these batteries with AGMs would cost about $2000. I wasn't in the mood for that.
So I looked up the old May 2007 thread on AGMs VS Wet Cells and got the following quote from Pacific Power Batteries:
"AGM Con's: Price is pretty stiff when compared with the wet lead acid batteries--generally by 2 or 3 times. This difference begins to fade if any of the above items listed are important to you: cramped space, no maintenance, difficult mounting, rapid recharge, explosion-proof and non-gassing. But if you are from Missouri, the Show-Me state, and if you don't need any of the fancy features, and you are willing to slosh a little water or acid on your jeans from time to time, then the wet lead acid battery is a tough design to beat overall. As a value of Dollars per Amp/hour or Dollars per year life expectancy, the AGM takes a back seat to the wet lead acid battery if you don't need any bells and whistles."
The whole article is much longer. You can look it up at:
The AGMs are probably superior if you are planning on anchoring out a lot but are much more expensive to buy and run. Pacific Power Batteries says:
"When comparing price for value's sake, if the AGM GPL-4C costs $205.29 for 176 ah, that is a value of $1.16/ah. vs. the wet battery at $69.20/110ah. with a value of $.623/ah. (54%). So why would a person buy an AGM?"
After reading this again, I decide on wet cell batteries and bought two heavy duty 8D combo wet cells for the house batteries and a smaller 4D wet cell for the genny starting battery at a total cost of only $572. These are the same types of batteries that I have been getting 8 to 9 years on in the past. The same thing in AGM batteries would cost $1977 from West Marine. And while I do have to add water occasionally, for the $1,405 difference in price I think I'll just muddle along with the old wet cell batteries. I already have plans on how to spend that $1,405.
To post a pic first use a picture editor to format your picture to show just what you want with as little extraneous stuff as possible. The size the picture to be no more than 5" wide and less than 100k. You do all this off-line and ahead of time.
Now log on to the forum and start typing in your post. When you get to the point where you want to insert your picture finish your sentence an hit a line feed. Now click on the icon with the arrow in it on the right end of the top line of icons. A window will open asking whether you want to browse on your for the file to upload. It helps to write down the location of the file before you start writing your post. Click browse, search for your picture and upload it by clicking OK.
You can size the picture by clicking on it and pulling on the little squares that appear. When you have the picture the way you want it click outside the area of the picture and the squares will disappear. Your picture is finished and you can add more text if you want. I used an old graph as an example in ths post.
I had a small issue on our trip to Florida this spring... the port engine shutdown button failed to work. I have tracked down the problem to the linkage to the fuel rack separated from the solenoid. The solenoid operates fine, but the linkage is a snap on clip arrangement that will not stay together. I find it unusual the solenoid pulls against the clip to operate (rather than push)...
I plan to spray all the linkage with WD40 to ensure it operates smoothly, but how do I "tighten" that attachment clip? Any ideas woul be appreciated before I engineer something different.
Your file name shouldn't have the "> at the end and you don't type in the name of the file. You select it while doing the browse.
Checking the emoticons .
Type in some text and then click on the emoticon. They all seem to work,
Have you tried uploading jpg files you didn't create?
There is no file type named .JPG">. How are you getting those last two characters? No wonder your uploads don't work.
I've had to replace those clips too. For a temporary repair, I wraped the clip and linkage with stiff wire so they could not separate but were still flexible.
I have discovered that due to software configuration of Google Chrome you cannot upload pictures if that is your browser. I have logged in using Explorer and can upload pics this way. Brian Azar said that their software team is working of the forum to accept all types of browsers.
In the pictures above, you can view the overheating and scoring of the cylinder walls.
This picture shows how fouled the air boxes were.
The starboard side was particularly bad.
This has been an issue from day one of my ownership. Mr. Hug stated that he has seen these engines with 2500 hours on them and the air boxes not look like this. I have cleaned them three times in 7 years and they were always fouled. One possibility is that the wrong kits were installed when rebuilt prior to my buying. Keep in mind, this engine has had a new turbo, injectors, tune-ups, etc. The starboard engine is original and has never displayed this issue.
Here you can see scoring on the pistons. This occurred when the sealing rings melted.
Bad Day In Black Rock (any old western movie fans out there?)
But what is done is done and like goes on.
This sentiment says it all. I'm acutally pretty clean here as it is early in the morning and I've just started for the day. You should have seen me the evening before! :
This is what the diesel fuel, oil and soot looks like mixed together in a fouled air box. I scrapped most of it out with my fingers and then used several cans of Brake Kleen to melt the rest and mop up with paper shop towels. Now that the cylinders are out and can clean all the way around the chambers.
Tomorrow I clean the block and cylinder head surfaces and the oil pan. Another nasty job but may save me a few bucks! Hope I have enough left over for a six-pack!


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Tennesee Walkers :-)
Well, I LOVE gaited horses. My boy, Sundance is naturally gaited, has such a nice gait. We've put him up for sale, and we're looking into Tennesee Walking Horses. I've owned one in that past, and she was a dream. So, I'm striving to have another. We're hoping to invest in Spring, after saving some serious money. Anyone know any informative TWH sites or have any advice, photos, or info? It's greatly appreciated!!!:D
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