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Sick boots!!! Got mine a few days ago....
Sick boots!!! Got mine a few days ago. Yeah they're light!!!
But....R THEY DURABLE????
The lacing system and the est soul don't feel like they r going to last.
Wooden Robots
Durable for sure. The laces are super strong and will not break as long as they don't get cut. Watch your edges when riding on the lift and there will be no problems. Great boot!!
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ABINGDON, Va. — A Glade Spring woman has been charged with embezzling more than $100,000 from an Abingdon, Va., propane company.
The Washington County, Va., Sheriff's Office reports Crystal Darlene Chapman, 20, was arrested Wednesday morning on seven counts of embezzlement. Police say the crimes occurred at Marsh Propane, from January of 2008 up until Chapman's "recent departure" from the business.

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"I never allowed myself the luxury of those brilliant, beautiful colors until I went to India and saw people walking around in them or dragging them in the mud. I realised they were not so artificial." – Robert Rauschenberg
After visiting India in the early 1970s to explore textiles and printmaking, Texas-born artist Robert Rauschenberg returned to the US where he moved his studio from New York to Captiva Island, off the Gulf coast of Florida. Here he created a series of works called Jammers – named after the windjammer sailing vessel – which represent a minimalist departure from his previous collage work, and which were also an acclamation of his new island life. Combining large-scale natural fabrics – cotton, muslin, and silk – Rauschenberg stitched together expressive shapes that are reminiscent of coastal artefacts: sails, fishermen's nets, sandy beaches, driftwood. Solid blocks of vibrant colour are layered, sewn, or held up by rattan poles, giving depth to wall hangings that have escaped their two-dimensionality.
"Moving his studio from New York to Captiva Island...he created a series of works called Jammers...which were an acclamation of his new island life"
Known for his graphic multi-material collages – called 'Combines' – as well as his collaborations with John Cage and Merce Cunningham, Rauschenberg was at the forefront of the post-war American experimental arts movement, alongside his contemporaries Jasper Johns and Cy Twombly, both of whom were also his lovers. He studied painting under Josef Albers, a founder of the Bauhaus, at Black Mountain College in North Carolina, and often used found objects and images in his collage work. His famous Combines from the 1950s are bold, expressive pieces in which he mixes graphic, fine art, and sculptural elements. Indeed, in many ways, the Jammers are Rauschenberg's artistic impulse to bring texture and depth to flat surfaces, only stripped to its core. Speaking of his controlled approach to the Jammers, he said, "my job was to impose a great amount of restraint upon myself… Nearly everything that I could think to do previously would have violated what these pieces wanted to be." Evocative yet still, the Jammers are complex in their simplicity, quiet in their vibrancy, and the materials delicate in their resilience. Above all, the works express the resolute joy of a man who has just moved from the big city to a small island to find a new way to create and to be.
Robert Rauschenberg: Jammers is at the Gagosian Gallery in Britannia Street until 28 March. The Bride and the Bachelors: Duchamp with Cage, Cunningham, Rauschenberg and Johns runs at the Barbican until June 9.
Text by Ananda Pellerin
Ananda Pellerin is a London-based writer and regular contributor to AnOthermag.com.


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Octavio A. Hinojosa Mier, the former chief operations officer of the San Antonio Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, has received the Officer's Cross of the Order of Civil Merit from King Juan Carlos I of Spain. Hinojosa Mier was recognized for his "leadership in promoting stronger U.S.-Spanish relations." The Order of Merit is one of Spain's highest honors. […] [Read More]
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Casio EX-Z9 Intro
Casio America has introduced the latest addition to its stylish EXILIM series digital cameras, the EXILIM Zoom EX-Z9. This model features a stylish, slim and compact design to increase portability, and is easy to use.
Casio EX-Z9 Features
The EX-Z9 couples an 8 megapixel CCD imager to a 3X optical zoom and a 2.6-inch LCD. To keep things simple, the Casio EXZ9 offers 23 Best Shot modes, an Easy mode, and includes face detection technology. The 'Z9 also includes Casio's YouTube capture mode, making it easy to record and upload your very own YouTube videos. The EXILIM EX-Z9 stores its images and videos on SD/SDHC cards, or in 18.6MB of internal memory. The Casio EX-Z9 derives its power from a proprietary Lithium-ion battery, and both battery and charger are included in the kit.
Additional Casio EX-Z9 features and details (adapted from the press release):
"Whether you are taking snap shots of your family at the park or your friends at a concert, this high-quality digital camera is sure to satisfy all of your photographic wants and needs," said Bill Heuer, Vice President of Casio's Digital Imaging Division. "Casio's innovative YouTube Capture Mode allows videos to be recorded and uploaded directly to YouTube in as few as 3 steps, making the EX-Z9 perfect for online video enthusiasts."
The EX-Z9 comes loaded with other useful features including Anti Shake DSP which reduces photo blur from shaky hands or moving subjects, allowing users to shoot images with ease and confidence. The EX-Z9's Easy Mode simplifies the camera settings to three easy menus (image size, flash and self timer). With Easy Mode, the EXZ9 is set to take great photos in every situation without having to check presets or accidentally making a wrong adjustment. Casio's Face Detection Technology maintains a sharp focus and the correct exposure for the human face.
Casio EX-Z9 Pricing and Availability
The Casio EX-Z9 will begin shipping March 2008, with a list price of US$159.99. Available colors are pink, black, silver and orange.


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Economics and Globalization Events
The State of the Canada - U.S. Relationship
December 14, 2006 // 12:00pm — 4:00pm
Canada Institute
The Association for Canadian Studies in the United States (ACSUS) and the Canada Institute produced a special issue of The American Review of Canadian Studies (ARCS) on the state of the relationship between Canada and the United States, in which authors presented their papers on a variety of topics in Canada-U.S. relations.
Liberia in Transition: A Discussion With the UN Panel on Liberia
December 12, 2006 // 2:00pm — 4:00pm
Africa Program
Members of the UN Panel of Experts on Liberia discuss the impact of Liberia's resources on West Africa's wars, how effective sanctions were in shutting down the conflicts, and whether it is time to restore control of the country's natural wealth to the newly elected national government.
Managing Freshwater Inflows to Estuaries
December 07, 2006 // 11:00am — 1:00pm
Environmental Change and Security Program
In the second in a series of meetings on fisheries, ECSP and USAID host a discussion of estuaries, the threats they face, and the actions that can be taken to restore them.
Book Discussion - A World Ignited: How Apostles of Ethnic, Religious and Racial Hatred Torch the Globe by Martin & Susan J. Tolchin
December 06, 2006 // 1:00pm — 2:30pm
Program on America and the Global Economy
How Swaziland's Governance Model and AIDS Crisis Intersect
December 05, 2006 // 2:00pm — 3:30pm
Africa Program
A briefing on recent developments in Swaziland. Panelists will discuss a wide range of social and economic challenges currently facing Swaziland, namely its economic growth, the prevalence of HIV/AIDS, and the government's handling of opposition parties.
Urban Transport Development in China - Trends and Challenges
November 30, 2006 // 8:00am — 10:00am
China Environment Forum
Lee Schipper and Wei-Shiuen Ng from EMBARQ at the World Resources Institute's Center for Sustainable Transport, and transportation specialist Graham Smith examine China's current motorization trends and their consequences.
Report Launch: The World's Water 2006-2007
November 16, 2006 // 9:00am — 10:30am
Environmental Change and Security Program
Launching the fifth edition of the biennial report The World's Water, Peter Gleick provides an updated analysis on water, and the political, economic, technological, and scientific issues associated with it.
New Thinking in International Trade: National Strategies to Build Comparative Advantage
November 16, 2006 // 6:00am — 1:30pm
Program on America and the Global Economy
The Woodrow Wilson Center's Program on Science, Technology, America, and the Global Economy is hosting a major, half-day conference on November 16 to examine the economic strategies of advanced and emerging market countries and their impact on the United States.
Dire Strait? Energy Security in the Strait of Malacca
November 14, 2006 // 2:30pm — 4:30pm
Asia Program
Foreign Policy magazine recently designated the Strait of Malacca as one of the world's five top global chokepoints. This narrow waterway, which divides Indonesia's Sumatra Island and western Malaysia, is a hub of global trade, including large percentages of Northeast Asia's oil and liquid natural gas. There is concern, however, that piracy and terrorism may jeopardize the safe transport of these energy needs.
Environmental Health Crises in Southwest China
November 08, 2006 // 8:00am — 10:00am
China Environment Forum
Millions of rural and urban citizens in China suffer from health problems and limits to economic development due to contamination or shortages of water and air pollution from coal. In southwest China, water challenges are particularly acute due to that region's karst geology, where much of the water flows underground through caves rather than on the surface


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Floating around among the trivia in my thoughts today I came across some bits I thought worth sharing:
Ryan Patrick Vineyards has created companions for their Leprechaun labeled Naked Chardonnay. In the tasting room is a very drinkable, fragrant and slightly sweet Riesling. My favorite is the new Red Head Red, not in the tasting room, but soon to be available in stores. Right now, Dan's Market has it on the shelf at $8.99. All three of these wines are under $10 each.
Silvara Vineyards, in its beautiful setting surrounded by flowers and a cooling expanse of green lawn, has several recent additions. The new Riesling, definitely a sit-up-and-take-notice wine, is delightfully expressive of flowers and fruit, and loves food. The new Gamache vineyards Syrah and the Red Blend also deserve attention; nothing wimpy here! And what a great place for a picnic, under a red umbrella on the hilltop.
37 Cellars has finished bottling new Cab, Merlot and Chardonnay which haven't yet been released. The Cab is a knock-me-over wine with a haunting finish, and I can't wait until it gets a little age on it. Merlot isn't ready for tasting yet. The new Chard is unoaked: fruity, lively, crisp and food friendly. Nothing die-away about it, either; it loved the spicy Thai dinner I prepared that evening. If you go up for a tasting - call for appointment 548-8663 - perhaps Chuck will treat you to Aragon Mill. I love "kleenex songs."
In case you shop at Fred Meyer in E. Wenatchee, you have probably seen and used their plastic bags for vegetables. They have a handle on the top, and when empty, make great trash bags for your car, and are reusable unless your trash is really messy. Do you know that the law requires you to have a trash bag in your car? I heard that from a deputy one time in the past.
In Wenatchee, the Artisan bakery in Mikes' Meats sells a sort of ciabatta roll which, when split and toasted, makes a great base for a heap of Cashmere's Country Boy's BBQ pulled pork. Talk about an easy and quick dinner. Whip up some slaw, open a Zinfandel, or a Hard Row Primitivo, or a Grenache blend and you're set for the evening.
Recently I came up with a new chocolate raspberry treat for Wedge Mountain's Roses and Rubies raspberry dessert wine. I'll post it one of these days.
Busy weekend: come see us at Silvara Vineyards today 1-5. Tomorrow will be even more exciting: garage cleaning day. Feel free to come up and share the fun!
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Turnbull Facebook Q+A backfires with NBN rage
news An attempt by Malcolm Turnbull to leverage a visit to Facebook's headquarters in the US to communicate with Australians about the future of the digital economy via social media has backfired, with the Communications Minister's official Facebook filling up with hundreds of comments slamming the Coalition's inferior broadband policy.
Yesterday Turnbull, who is currently on a study trip to the US meeting with top executives from US technology giants such as Twitter, Facebook, Google, Cisco and Square, posted a notice on his Facebook account that he would be hosting an online questions and answer session with Australians from Facebook headquarters in Menlo Park on "the latest in technology and the future economy".
However, the overwhelming majority of the several hundred questions posed to Turnbull during the session related to the Coalition's broadband policy, which most Australians believe is inferior to Labor's more comprehensive and popular National Broadband Network vision.
"Why are you so near-sighted on the NBN scheme? Does this stem from your generational lack of understanding/inability to use IT to the capacity of everybody else? NBN concerns me. We NEED a world class system. Are you going to help deliver this?" asked one reader.
Another alleged that the majority of NBN Co's board was composed of former Telstra executives, and asked whether Turnbull believed it was "wise" that NBN Co was negotiating with Telstra for the sale of the copper wiring, which they described as "an outdated method of communication that their own CEO referred to as '5 minutes to midnight' ten years ago and is currently held together in water-logged plastic bags". "Shouldn't an independent committee, with no relation to Telstra, be negotiating the deal?" the questioner asked.
It is not true that the majority of NBN Co's board is composed of former Telstra executives, although it is true that the majority of senior executive and board appointments which Turnbull and NBN Co have made since the September election have been of former Telstra executives, several of whom have direct personal connections with Turnbull.
Another questioner asked: "The future of the internet is not about movie download speeds, but in machine to machine communication that will require a "smart" network able sometimes to deliver terabytes in nanoseconds, and where symmetry is vital. In that context, why are we even considering basing national broadband infrastructure on platforms that we know cannot do these things? what is the expected cost of repairing the [plain old telephone system] to deliver even the inadequate network currently planned? and won't this spend inevitably be duplicated?"
And still another asked: "An assumption made in your costings for the NBN prior to the election was that Telstra would allow use of their copper network without charge and now it has been reported that the government/NBNCo will now enter negotiations for use of the network. Will this be another riveting surprise from the self-proclaimed no surprises government?"
Some commenters verged on alleging improper behaviour by the Coalition. "How much did Murdoch pay you to slow down our broadband development so that Foxtel could build its on demand feature and offer home and internet so that Netflix didn't kill it off?" asked one questioner.
And the NBN wasn't the only issue where Turnbull faced censure from his critics. One questioner pointed out that Australian software firm Atlassian had confirmed plans to shift its headquarters from Australia to the UK because of more favourable regulatory and financial conditions, and asked what the Coalition Government was going to do to attract innovative startups to establish themselves in Australia.
In general, Turnbull responded to the questions by referring to the Coalition's broadband policy or NBN Co's Strategic Review, or by disagreeing with the assertion of the question, by making a joke or attacking Labor's NBN policy. For example, the Minister said it was a "low blow" to refer to what a questioner said was a "generational" lack of understanding about IT on his part.
"Those assumptions are not right", said Turnbull, in response to a question about the need for symmetrical speeds to be available on future broadband networks. In respect to the question about Atlassian, Turnbull said the company's "move" was exaggerated, and that he had a keen interest in encouraging innovative companies in Australia. However, the Minister stopped short of committing to any specific approach to addressing the issue.
With respect to Labor's FTTP model for the NBN, Turnbull said "the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive", and said it was better to invest in technology "that works now" and upgrade as time went on.
The Facebook Q+A is not the first time Turnbull has been sharply attacked on social media by Australians angry about the Coalition's broadband policy. In November, for example, a video attempt by Turnbull to reassure the public that the Coalition was proceeding apace with Labor's National Broadband Network project backfired, with most viewers giving the promo the 'thumbs down' and others filling the Communications Minister's YouTube channel with bile accusing him of destroying Labor's vision wholesale.
The comments reflect ongoing support amongst the Australian population for Labor's FTTP-based NBN model, and concern that the Coalition's preferred FTTN model will not deliver the same service delivery outcomes to Australians. Despite the poor rollout performance of the NBN rollout under Labor, a series of polls over several years has constantly shown that the majority of the Australian population supported Labor's NBN project.
Since the Coalition won the Federal Election in September, a wave of popular dissent against the Coalition's plans to reshape the project has surfaced, with a number of initiatives under way to petition the Coalition to back Labor's policy instead of its own.
A petition placed on popular website Change.org on the issue following the election, demanding the Coalition reconsider the FTTN technology and focus on the superior FTTP option, garnered in excess of 270,000 signatures.
In November, supporters of Labor's all-fibre vision for the National Broadband Network project organised a national day of action on the issue, which saw thousands of Australians physically present Members of Parliament with copies of the petition. Supporters also raised tens of thousands of dollars for a pro-NBN advertising campaign in Turnbull's local newspaper.
Before Christmas, respected telecommunications analyst Paul Budde heavily criticised the Coalition's new preferred broadband deployment model, describing its "Multi-Technology Mix" approach as "a dog's breakfast" of different technologies, which could turn out to be a "logistical nightmare" to deliver in practice.
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"With respect to Labor's FTTP model for the NBN, Turnbull said "the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive", and said it was better to invest in technology "that works now" and upgrade as time went on."
Funny… but last time I checked FTTP actually works NOW (and to a lesser extent the same with FTTN… cannot say the same for HFC though..) but with the added bonus of actually having much much muuuuuuch longer shelf lives than the other "alternatives" their spruiking.
'All telecommunications analysts are naïve about technology.':Malcolm Turnbull
This comment; Turnbull said "the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive" might just be the game changer.
Hopefully the general public will now realise how short time focused the CBN is (max 10 yrs) for B$40 investment where B$70 (allegedly) will get us to FTTP. $ per mbps, FTTP stacks up as a obvious better investment and last 30 years. These are simple numbers the public can add up for themselves.
Hopefully the Noalition argument that in 5-10 years Fibre will be replaced by *something* will finally die as the lie we all knew it was.
liberals dont care or understand this technical stuff they just want stop the boats because that will end gridlock in western sydney, not to mention getting rid of the taxes that are preventing billionaires becoming gazillionairtes. 6 seats at the next election and its all over.
"Hopefully the general public will now realise how short time focused the CBN is"
I think they already do. There is no shortage of people who object to the CBN in all age and social groups.But it doesnt matter how many people try to get this message across, the Liberal government are not listening to the people they are meant to be serving and they are pushing their own agenda, saying one thing while doing another. And across many issues, too.
This is why Melbourne's CityLink and EastLink roads were built with one lane and expanded as required… Oh wait… NO IT WASN'T! They built 3-4 lanes so that it wouldn't need upgrading for years.
That has been a key position for the Noalition, they don't want the NBN to be thought of as infrastructure like roads, public transport etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gungahlin_Drive_Extension (Was built as one lane each way)
Yeah, before most of the housing was built. Gungahlin was known for it's congested road and even more congested broadband, in pre-TransACT FTTP areas.
The Southern Expressway was built for $80m running one way switching during the day and night for traffic to go the other way. And they didn't build the bridges for the two way road, despite having the plans.
Oh the extension cost to make it two way? $350m. And they had to close all the bridges for over 2 years to make it happen.
This is the legacy that will also smite the CBN.
The GDE was also the biggest debacle and interruption to Canberrans working lives for 10 years. The overall cost/time blowout of the project was not only phenomenal – so was the cost to the us. This example only further proves the FTTP vs FTTN point, do it right, do it once.
Turnbull's implication here is that the FTTP NBN cannot be upgraded, whereas the copper can. Or at least the the FTTP upgrade would be much more expensive than incremental copper upgrades.
The opposite is true. Once you have single mode fibre in the ground, upgrading the capacity of that fibre is cheap.
What's funny is that Sweden and Japan among other countries had FTTP in the 80's.. perhaps Mr. Turnbull can't count, but that seems pretty much like 30years to me..
Fibre is borderline limitless and the thought of transferring terrabits in nanoseconds is far from impossible
I like that in order to discuss Technology in Australia, he has to do so from a highly-connected location, in another country.
"the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive" – Malcolm Turnbull..
Our Broadband General, folks. His wonderful words are presented over fibre optic cables that in some cases have been there for over a decade.
Never mind the silly copper cables that were built and run for decades. I mean shit, why would you invest in that?! So naive.
And I thought Ziggy was short-sighted.
Wait, didn't Mr Turnbull invest his own personal funds in Europe with a telco rolling out FTTP? That is pretty naive then.
A technology that lasts thirty years. Frankly anyone saying that about fibre is a joke. Bandwidth wise fibre is on track to deliver well over 100 terrabits per second speeds (shown in the lab) Whereas wireless hasn't even come close to 10 gigabit speeds in the lab. Fibre optic is the only way to go, copper transmission is always less efficient than glass. Wireless is always less efficient than glass. Trying to claim otherwise is ludicrous. It's arguing against basic laws of physics.
The companies that are going to drive this century are going to be created in people's homes on gigabit uplinks. Forget the downlinks, noone cares. The reality is without the uplinks, you can't run a broadcast studio from your house, you can't create any sort of hosted service from your house. And this is exactly what is going to drive the future of the tech industry. Sure everything is going to move to the cloud, but it won't be an Australian made cloud because data centre costs are going to remain huge in Australia and hosting will continue to be offshored. We need a server in every house, and we need them to have fast, efficient uplinks.
Arguing against basic laws of physics seems to be a surprisingly common pastime amongst conservative politicians, for some reason.
Wireless is as efficient as the medium that does the bulk of the transmission, which is the fixed line. Its actually a little less than what the fixed line delivers because there is an encryption process that adds a tiny delay to the process, but its not a huge amount.
But because wireless works by transmitting to a tower, then along a fixed line for the rest of the journey to the destination IP (and back again), your limited by either that or the spectrum speed from your device to the tower. And because the connection has to pass through the exchange (so the ISP can monitor), thats not going to change any time soon. Its wrong to ever think that wireless can replace fixed line, because it NEEDS fixed line as part of its process.
To put it a different way, a car is limited by one of two things – its engine, or the speed limit. Imagine the engine as wireless, and the speed limit as fixed line. Its great if the engine can deliver 200 kmh, but if the speed limit says you can only do 80 kmh, thats all your going to get. Likewise, if your you're on the freeway where the speed limit is 100kmh, and either traffic or your engine means your only doing 60kmh, its a different limiting factor. At the moment a full fiber line is like giving no speed limits. Its down to how much traffic there is, or how fast your car goes.
Don't forget to include in your analogy that all the people on the same stretch of road are sharing the same engine. Wireless bandwidth is shared between all the users. As you get more users connected to a node, the individual bandwidth goes down.
Thats the traffic bit. The car/engine is your wireless device, the traffic is the congestion. Engine v speed limit is an analogy that works at all levels of wireless, whether its your home network, or your 4G mobile phone.
What the LNPMTMNBN is trying to do is enforce a 40 kmh speed limit for the foreseeable future, when we should be building freeways.
Turnbull and his plan are a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.
"The idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive." I sincerely hope these words come back to bite him very, VERY hard in the coming months and years.
So it's naive to invest in a technology that will last for 30 years and likely more but it's prudent to invest in one that you're already talking about replacing? What sort of backwards world is this? I suppose this is about trying to capitalise on that whole "tech moves so fast" mantra that's ingrained in people's heads. The hope being that the average Joe knows enough to think they know it all but not enough to understand why it's BS.
Nothing worse than a politician that preys on public ignorance. Well other than maybe a politician that says this sort of crap and actually believes it. I don't think Turnbull is the latter. Or at least I hope not… he hasn't given me much confidence lately.
and He will continue on as if nothing has ever happend…
Ah, so investing in a future-proofed telecommunications network is "naive", but paying rich women $75,000 each to have babies is "prudent". Are they all simply clinically insane in the Fiberal Party?
This stuff is so insane it's going to go into that Horrible Histories show…
Will those babies last 30 years? If so, it's not worth investing in them.
The desire to have an inferior fibre network is exactly what Murdoch wants. ergo, the Looney Liberals working to establish a second rate network. Murdoch wants to own the ABC's Asia-Pacific broadcast network and if the FTTN fiasco allows Murdoch to push and control his Foxtel broadband as the 'better' option. if the people don't keep making a noise about the inanity of the Abbott/Turnbull plan we will be screwed yet again.
That may not be the only reason. The Wentworth Courier (part of News) has real estate advertising sown up in the well heeled eastern suburbs of Sydney. In fact, it is is raison d'etre. But why, unlike other newspapers, is its only online manifestation the facsimile of the print version, making it effectively non searchable?
Perhaps the fact that, according to its rate card, a full page colour advertisement costs $6,000+ could have something to do with it. After the effective collapse of print Yellow Pages, anything that keeps the market in the timewarp of print and delays a ubiquitous fast internet suits Rupert.
The sheer lunacy of this alternative non nbn, is beyond all comprehension.. There is a dark and evil force behind all of this.. Really scary…
The reason politicians are so keen on roads is around 60% of all letters to local members are in reference to "bad" roads, particularly after a afternoon when a few accidents have congested roads, motorists are very vocal and they continually pester politicians day in day out with their unsolvable problems, they should be told to catch the train rather than bilking taxpayers to build bigger roads.
NBN supporters need to begin a massive letter writing campaign against local members, supporting the NBN. If local members feel their seats are under threat they will force the leaders to alter policy.
The problem is that an upgraded road is easy to understand and incredibly visible. A politician can stand by a road, point to it and point to the cars going over it. We can be as vocal as we want about the NBN but it's still a thin cable often underground in the next suburb over. The benefit of which is best described as "faster internets".
As much as I really, really want to see the NBN go ahead as the NBN even I have to admit that the big-red-button photo ops were pretty weak. At least with a road they can show you it. Much more political capital for a much, much lower price.
I live 125m from a telecom/Telstra node and I lose Internet when it rains. If we get FTTN and not FTTP I will STILL lose Internet when it rains so what's the fn point of FTTN for everyone else that has this problem…
And not wanting to invest in long term that will not need to be upgraded for 20+ years is ignorance of the highest degree!
in regards to the 30 year comment – Telstra network is already over 30 years old.. time to get rid of it!!!! bring on FTTP not the dogs breakfast on 30+years old technology.
>> Turnbull said "the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive", and said it was better to invest in technology "that works now" and upgrade as time went on.
On this logic people out there that have bought a block of land – should simply put up a tent because they can live in it tonight, where as the majority of people invested in the building of a house that will last 30+ years even if it takes 9 months.
>> "Some commenters verged on alleging improper behaviour by the Coalition. "How much did Murdoch pay you to slow down our broadband development so that Foxtel could build its on demand feature and offer home and internet so that Netflix didn't kill it off?" asked one questioner."
As I've said before, that is all this is about. Murdoch cut a deal with the Libs, offering favourable and highly biased press going in to the election in exchange for nobbling the NBN to below workable IPTV speeds so that Foxtel would not have to switch to an Internet based service. That is all Turnbull is going to do with the NBN, that is his chief and only concern, to satisfy Rupert Murdoch.
This is the quid pro quo price of gaining power for the Libs. It's very simple. No money per se changed hands, at least it wasn't strictly necessary.
I'm just amazed at Turnbull's ability to continually make these bald faced lies and technically ridiculous and economically costly statements about FTTN and still sleep at night. It just goes to show what sort of psychopaths most politicians are. Ordinary people stumble a bit, go red and are embarrassed when they lie, psychopaths like Turnbull and Co simply present it as the truth and spin as a survival reflex.
While I don't doubt the outcome was very much this, I suspect it was more of a "natural" alignment of ideals, rather than a straight-up face-to-face corruption deal.
Murdoch wasn't getting what he wanted from the Labor government, and the Liberals were willing to give it a shot; as soon as they started having policies that looked good to murdoch he started wailing on the Labor government.
Just remember; it served as a warning to the coalition should they implement similar policies as much as it served as a way to evict Labor from office.
Why don't we also focus a campaign on demonstrating that these sort of short-sighted decisions will have future dire consequences for the party as well as the politician's seat. We need to gather the support of the people in the Division of Wentworth to vote Turnbull out!
The best part about this all was he looked like a total f*ckin idiot in front of everyone at Facebook HQs.
Can you imagine them trying to keep a straight face when Turnbull explained the MTM to them?
Hey, so guys I'm like the communication minister on this island. Anyway, this other party was trying to connect 93% of the homes with fiber for something like $40 billion which would pay itself off in 10 years and then have these huge dividends. They are offering plans between 12 and 1000Mbps, sure, but no one needs this.
Anyway, I found out this great way to reduce the cost to about $35 billion.. well sort of $40 billion, if you don't factor in maintenance. So anyway, we're going to use the existing cable, which is fairly heavily contended and existing copper which is fairly heavy degraded and we're going to use this cool new technology called VDSL2. You guys know it? So anyway, it'll upgrade their current speeds from 'up to 24Mbps'… to… up to 25 Mbps!!! Awesome right?
So anyway, that's how we won our election. I think it was all on this cost saving measure. I'm a bit of a tech pro you see. I made lots of money investing in email when I was younger.
Think I could get a job here?
Aside from his obvious lack of understanding around the NBN I am suspicious of motives talking to those companies. I certainly don't want my records – health, commercial, educational, etc, handed over and put on the servers of those companies for them to expose my (our) ID and information.
They (politicians) have not figured it out yet that the monolithic middleware offerings are dangerous, unsecure, etc. It is OUR data. So its not just the limitations of the copper he does not understand. He will fail to understand the exploitative nature of these companies business models.
Turnbull is patently out of his depth.
I know who I'll be voting for next election, I'm sure the next newly elected government would address this silly policy that this current government is planning.
Sorry Phil.
By then the TPG's and competitors who will be forced economically to follow will have stitched up the majority of the high value cheap and easy to provide customers. You better believe the New Telstra and Optus etc contracts will be iron clad locking even more customers up.
The National Broadband network as we know it will become an impossibility as the higher value customers will be lost, with only the very expensive to provide and or low value customers left.
It would be economic idiocy to try.
We will have the option preferred by the right wing media commentators and the LNP of multiple mini monopolies that will never waste shareholder funds on upgrades especially if they are forced to have open wholesale access. Good dividends even if it cripples our future, who cares, show me the fat dividends NOW
Remember the anti cherry picking legislation was strongly opposed by the LNP who now call the shots.
"Its revenues rely heavily on high-density, heavy broadband users in inner-city areas, where Optus and TPG's planned networks would both be concentrated."
"But analysts have warned of the technical difficulties in having multiple telcos offering fibre-to-the-building technology in the same apartment block.
Mr McClelland acknowledged that a situation in which TPG, Optus and NBN Co were all offering the same service could make for a worse experience for consumers.
"You've really got to consider the mix of technologies in that building and, if you roll out a new technology, are you causing interference for everybody else and causing them a crap experience," he said. "I think those factors weigh into whether we should do it or not.""
But some Telco's would push for a monopoly situation or wouldn't care about a degraded service
Couldn't agree more with Sean. That is what this is all about, a dirty quid pro quo between a little cabal of power crazed arsewipes, at Australia's great expense. They are barely even pretending anymore.
Truly shameful chapter in our history, and certainly in Turnbull's.
Just who the hell voted for this moron?
Really, the copper network, in some places, is at capacity. The wireless network in A LOT of places is at capacity.
How the hell does he think his jam tin and string idea is going to work on infrastructure that is ALREADY failing?
Maybe if Australians didn't vote in the Coalition we wouldn't currently have this problem. Clearly the majority of the country is incapable of smelling politician's bs.
Also, pretty sure Turnbull said this himself ages ago … that everyone voted for it, so they have to live with it. Hopefully this only lasts one term.
Dont look at me, I voted for the other guy…
As for the "everyone voted for it, they have to live with it" line, well everyone voted for FttH back in 2010, when it was actually a bigger election issue (cost LNP the election if I recall) so why arent those results relevant?
Soon as I saw the announcement for facebook Q and A, I knew it would end up being backlash about the NBN.
It is disappointing when the increasing polarisation of previous years meant the Coalition decided to jump on the anti-everything wagon and as such have left us with no possibility for what is vital infrastructure upgrades. I for one have already wasted plenty of time dealing with my ISP and with Telstra because of the shoddy state of the line down the road.
I wonder what Turnbull would honestly say about the NBN and about broadband were he free to speak his mind.
Turnbull would be a free-market proponent. To be honest he probably wouldn't have any national network operator; and would be in favor of removing all regulation over the ISP industry.
He would argue that in the short term you might see a player like Telstra completely eat up all the competition with their monopoly dominance, but eventually once everyone had gone out of business and Telstra started raising prices, competitors in small sectors of the country would build cheaper more profitable (and more desirable) networks, thus creating broadband panacea for the market which would in turn solve all demand-driven problems.
Given that Labor was throwing money at the situation however; the Liberal party was effectively cornered (by their loss in 2010) into throwing money at an alternative solution. In general; for those that don't perceive physical broadband networks as natural monopolies (Turnbull doesn't) the government spending large quantities of money on infrastructure of this kind think it is a bad idea.
The party only supports this policy for 2 reasons (and in this order):
A) it gets them in office,
B) it is (according to them) a less bad outcome than spending 70 billion on fttp.
than spending 31 billion on fttp. **
I chose my number because they probably do think it will cost 71 billion. None of what I said above is what I believe, but it is my interpretation of what MT (and co) believe.
now im not an economist, but if u break down both policies to $(Mil)/premisis(Mil)/megabit(total bandwidth)/year, you get some rather disturbing numbers. an EXAMPLE would be 74,000/12.2/1000/11 = .5514 or $551,400 per million houses per megabit per rollout year
another Example is 41,000/8.9/100/7 = 6.581 or $6,581,000 per million houses per megabit per rollout year
cheaper can actually be more expensive
Upgrade as required… you mean like from copper to fibre right?
Mr. Turnbull would be a perfect choice for the next CEO of Telstra.
I don't see any mentioned of Labor MP Ed Husic here – he is there doing the rounds as well. At least he is showing the the rest of the world that Australia does has a little technology credibility left!
"Turnbull said "the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive", and said it was better to invest in technology "that works now" and upgrade as time went on."
Good thing we didnt invest in rolling out a new fangled public Copper telephone network 60 years ago, I mean what a waste of money that would have been, right?
Oh wait, we did! *facepalm*
Last time I checked Verizon started rolling out their GPON based FTTP FiOS Network ~10 years ago, I'd say that easily classes GPON as technology "that works now" … heck, it can even be upgraded easily as time goes on!
Indeed, after all, the iron wires were fine :/
Why develop the internal combustion engine, when horse and buggy work just fine?
I love how Malcolm is busily telling us how bad the Liberal party is while still remaining staunchly loyal to the party and not saying anything bad about them.
The take home quote about naiveté is the killer for me. He's telling us right to our faces, "there are political reasons for this decision, not technical ones. I don't agree with the decisions being made nor do I support the reasons the decisions are being made, but here I am as the talking head with the job of presenting the Coalition's broadband policy to you clowns who still don't know how to read between the lines."
It's obvious that Rupert is calling the shots in this Government. Abbott is only there as a distraction: he is PM precisely because he is exactly the wrong person to have in that position. Bread and circuses. Distractions while the corporate goons run off with everything of value.
Whatever form the NBN takes, it has to be paid for by all Australian taxpayers.
I hear a lot of noise from a few vocal tech heads who want us to spend tens of billions of dollars on the fastest, future proof network. However, we live in a democracy and we have to consider what the average tax paying voter wants.
Given the current govt was elected and part of their policy platform was to reign in the cost of an NBN by using different technology, one has to assume that is what the majority of voting Australians want. That's what you call a political reason.
If you think most Aussies voted for MTM you'd be wrong, I suggest you read this article:
"What legitimacy does quink's analysis have? It's really quite impossible to know"
You clearly didn't read the entire article, Renai referenced multiple examples which clearly show the majority of Australians want an FTTP NBN.
"I hear a lot of noise from a few vocal tech heads who want us to spend tens of billions of dollars on the fastest, future proof network. However, we live in a democracy and we have to consider what the average tax paying voter wants."
They are doing so for a reason. The tech heads know the tech and are complaining because they can see that 10s of billions are going to be wasted over the next 10 years or so by going with Turnbull's plan.
Sorry, but uninformed public opinion, even if it is in the majority, does not make that opinion correct.
The tax payer may want to pay less for a network, what they are doing is paying a little less for 5 years and a hell of a lot more over the next 10 to 15 years.
"Given the current govt was elected and part of their policy platform was to reign in the cost of an NBN by using different technology, one has to assume that is what the majority of voting Australians want. That's what you call a political reason."
Well, next time you are ill, have a vote on what is wrong with you rather than seeing one of the few percent (the doctors) who actually have a clue what they are talking about.
I agree, no one should ever listen to the experts in a particular field when making 40 billion dollar+ investments.
It should all be gut feeling and "near enough is good enough" when dealing with such large numbers.
It's okay, we really want to spend tens of billions of dollars on a slower, less reliable internet.
" The tech heads know the tech and are complaining because they can see that 10s of billions are going to be wasted over the next 10 years or so by going with Turnbull's plan.
Sorry, but uninformed public opinion, even if it is in the majority, does not make that opinion correct.
The tax payer may want to pay less for a network, what they are doing is paying a little less for 5 years and a hell of a lot more over the next 10 to 15 years."
I didn't say the opinion was correct. But unfortunately governments have to take public opinion into consideration. If they don't they get voted out.
Most things governments do can be done better, at a cost. Turnbull is no dummy, I'm sure he knows that what he is advocating is not the best long term solution for the country. But there's a budget. There are competing demands for money and there are debts to pay down.
The people screaming loudest about the NBN maybe experts in technology, and probably know what they are talking about, but I doubt very much that they are also experts in economics.
MTM is 1 Billion dollars cheaper than FTTP according to Turnbulls own dodgy review numbers and that doesn't include the extra billions needed to buy/lease the copper PSTN and HFC networks which means MTM is going to cost more and deliver less!
It's not rocket science to work this out!
"MTM is 1 Billion dollars cheaper than FTTP according to Turnbulls own dodgy review numbers"
What are the figures? (serious question – I really don't know much about it)
With all due respect then Kevin…
If you don't know "much about it", perhaps it would have been prudent to have found out a bit about it (even minimally) before coming here, where people who refuse to swallow political bullshit from any politician, "do" actually know a lot about it… and trying to tell them/us "all about it".
So only people who know a lot about it should be involved in the discussion – that's what you're saying.
The rest of us plebs should just believe everything the pro NBN lobby says, keep our mouths shut and pay up.
That's not very democratic.
What I do know is that the vast majority of Australians do not "need" 100Mbs to our homes, although some of us can already get it anyway via cable, (yes I know the upstream speed is inferior to FTTP, but that doesn't affect the vast majority of users).
I also see a vocal minority – and that's what you are, a minority – trying to lobby for what they want at the expense of every taxpayer.
We see this in other parts of society, particularly with well organised lobby groups trying to bully local govt, to get their own way and screw everyone else. It's the ugly side of democracy.
Now I don't mind paying for the improvement of our education system, and I don't mind paying for a better health system. Things like that benefit the nation as whole. They benefit people from all demographics.
But I don't want to us as a nation to spend, 50, 60 or is it 70 billion dollars of public money so a minority can have faster internet.
You will no doubt say "but it's not just for a minority, everyone will get it". But the point is, the vast majority don't need it and wouldn't have a clue what to do with it.
FTTP should be a user pays service, until such a time that we can afford it (AFTER fixing up education and health and paying off the national debt).
"So only people who know a lot about it should be involved in the discussion – that's what you're saying."
Sure be involved in the discussion, but at least know some stuff before rubbishing the tech heads.
"The rest of us plebs should just believe everything the pro NBN lobby says, keep our mouths shut and pay up."
Not at all, but as above.
"That's not very democratic."
What has democracy got to do with it?
"What I do know is that the vast majority of Australians do not "need" 100Mbs to our homes, although some of us can already get it anyway via cable, (yes I know the upstream speed is inferior to FTTP, but that doesn't affect the vast majority of users)."
Correct, but one day they will need those speeds. If it is as soon as predicted by most large networking companies, cisco, google, etc, even alcatel luncent who turnbull talks to for vectoring information, what he is proposing to rollout will be obsolete at the time it is complete.
I also see a vocal minority – and that's what you are, a minority – trying to lobby for what they want at the expense of every taxpayer. "
Not at all, we are lobbying for what will save us huge amounts of money in the next 10-15 years.
See what I mean about knowing what you are talking about first?
"We see this in other parts of society, particularly with well organised lobby groups trying to bully local govt, to get their own way and screw everyone else. It's the ugly side of democracy"
Where as I see random Liberal supporters with very little knowledge of what they are talking about ignoring experts telling you rolling out what Malcolm proposes will waste a lot of money.
"We see this in other parts of society, particularly with well organised lobby groups trying to bully local govt, to get their own way and screw everyone else. It's the ugly side of democracy."
Where? I haven't seen that at all? More the reverse.
"Now I don't mind paying for the improvement of our education system, and I don't mind paying for a better health system. Things like that benefit the nation as whole. They benefit people from all demographics."
Yes, that's what we are proposing to, not wasting money and rolling out something of benefit to everyone, not just useful for Malcolm Turnbull's political career and his inability to accept when he is wrong.
"But I don't want to us as a nation to spend, 50, 60 or is it 70 billion dollars of public money so a minority can have faster internet."
Good thing we are a democracy then, because it isn't a minority, nor is it just faster internet, nor is the MTM cheaper. It just doesn't rollout what is required in the 2020s and will need to be replaced.
"You will no doubt say "but it's not just for a minority, everyone will get it". But the point is, the vast majority don't need it and wouldn't have a clue what to do with it. "
So those around 70% of people who have internet accounts with ISPs just don't use them?
"FTTP should be a user pays service, until such a time that we can afford it (AFTER fixing up education and health and paying off the national debt)."
And paying wealthy mums to have babies and building tunnels that failed their CBA and building 200 damns and stopping the boat. How about we do nothing and not have any communcations in 10 years, then rather than getting a huge boost to the economy from a new communications system we can be a third world nation.
Get a clue, then discuss, clueless preaching doesn't fool anyone.
No, thats NOT what he was saying. Nice over-reaction there Kevin. He's saying that if you want to be part of the conversation, do some basic research. That doesnt mean you need to be a world expert in telecommunications, but that its prudent to look at information from both sides before jumping into what is a very heated debate.
Example being the funding issue. Simple example right there. One set of figures had the cost at $29.5b for the LNP plan, and the Labor plan as a Government commitment of $30.4b. Thats what the $1b means to most people here.
People grinding the political axe ignore that commitment to Government argument, and repeat ad nauseum that Labor's plan will cost $94b, or some other extreme worst case number. And it gets frustrating having to go through the same set of issues when a new person shows up.
Here are the issues for most. First set of numbers, or $29.5b, is going to deliver what we already have – which is an "up to" 24 Mbps connection – then upgrade that to 50 Mbps. What will the cost be to upgrade that network to what FttP delivers over its lifespan?
Our speeds increase at a very predictable rate. You might not think we need speeds like 100 Mbps, but in 1999 nobody would have believed we would be looking at 50 Mbps. The need for those speeds is coming. What they will be, I have absolutely no idea, but every prediction in the past that faster speeds arent needed have been 100% wrong.
I ask you two questions. If it costs $30b to provide something thats barely better than what we have, why is $1b more such a bad deal? Secondly, if FttH is such a bad idea, why is FttN a good one?
The debate for most isnt a minority wanting a better connection, although that IS part of it. Its about spending 10's of billions on something that is a waste of money. For the record, I have over 2 decades in the tax industry, and have a sibling that lectures on electronic engineering, and worked in telecommunications both at a practical and theoretical level. I'll put my understanding of economics, and their comms experience up against anyone.
So please dont take advice to educate yourself as an attack. Its not. Its a call for you to hear both sides and not getting sucked into what has sadly become a terrible political game, at our short, medium, and long term detriment.
Thanks GongGav.
I'll ignore your little dig about over reacting.
It's all very well suggesting people learn about this issue, but there's no definitive guide, because there are so many people spouting opinions it's impossible to know where the truth lies. Too much noise in the system!
The figure of $30.4 Bn for the ALP plan is a new one on me. I was under the impression from the outset that it was going to be $43 Bn, but that costs were ballooning and it was going to be significantly more, although I haven't seen $90 Bn banded about.
Can we really get an FTTP/H for $30.4 Bn?
It does seem crazy to build a network that only delivers 24 Mbs for $1Bbn less
On the other hand, how many people actually get 24Mbs? Is that only people on Annex M?
I'm on ADSL2+ and about 100m from the exchange as the crow flies. Cabling length is more like 500m, but I can only achieve 19Mbs, with a central splitter. So I'm guessing very few people on ADSL2+ actually get 24 Mbps.
If the LNP plan could deliver 24Mbs for everyone, or even the majority, then that may be not such a bad thing. Assuming of course that we can't really have 100Mbs for $1Bn more.
Perhaps we shouldn't be doing anything right now. Has anyone considered that?
Personally I don't think we can afford to spend $30bn on a faster internet network for domestic use, especially when people may or may not choose to adopt it when it's available. Surely that's the other big issue for a nationwide system.
I have Telstra's cable coming into my house, and I can get their "extreme" 100Mbs service, but I'm happy with my ADSL2+ service. Will I get increased speeds for the same price with FFTH?
How about we just put the whole thing on hold for a couple of years and spend the $30Bn on education and health?
ABC: Run a poll on that and see how you go …
here's the question: "Would you prefer we spend $30Bn on an faster internet service that most people don't need, or should we spend the money on education and health?'
"I was under the impression from the outset that it was going to be $43 Bn…" — Sort of.
Heres the thing. The LNP's plan was to commit to a spend of $29.5b, and not spend a cent more. That was it, and what the Government was committed to spending, which is fine. The review's shown that not to be possible, but thats a different debate.
Then you have the Labor side of things. Firstly, their build IS more expensive, and nobody's denied that. But the kicker is that they too committed to spending a specific amount, with the rest paid for by private investors. Their plan was to commit the Government to $30.4b, and raise the rest privately – originally it was a $41b build, a number that varied up and down around that mark. Its a little more complicated than that, but so was the LNP's $29.4b plan.
So its the reference to what the GOVERNMENT is committed to spending that the pro-fiber side is referring to when comparing the cost of each build. After all, isnt that all that matters to the public? What the Government is spending?
The Liberals ignore that Government commitment angle, because it weakens their argument. They consistently refer to the overall build cost of Labor's plan, and use a worst case scenario in doing so, while pitching their own ideas in a best case scenario – no extra cost to Telstra, etc. An idea that has continually been shown to just not be viable, and now their own stooges are saying the same thing.
Take it a step further, and look at how the investment of each plan was to be recouped. The LNP plan encourages the competition to take the best spots, leaving the worst locations for NBN to try and eek out a profit that can cover costs, and return something on the investment. The Labor plan stops that competition from happening, and its very easy to predict what NBN Co would get each month/quarter/year, and see the profits that would pay down first the private investors, then the public investment.
All of this information is out there. Labor just did an exceedingly bad job of presenting their information to the public, or to get their message through the MSM so the public were aware of the reality.
And even using the overall build cost as the argument, what more will it cost the public, through increased costs to the ISP, or excessive installation costs, to upgrade the FttN build to what Labor is offering now? How about the ongoing legacy costs of upkeep on those nodes, which need to be kept in working order, and replaced every 10 years? Or upkeep on the copper lines?
I'm sure someone around here has a copy, but most of the Labor side was available on the old NBN Co website. I expect its gone now (could still be there as a pre election Corp Plan), but might still be available through Conroy's personal site.
Kevin, how about looking at things from a pure business point of view?
Here's a scenario that closely resembles the state of our primary communications network in Aus;
a business has a financials system, it's been dong a good job for the last 6 years but is no longer keeping pace with the growth of the company. An expert consultant is bout in to provide the business with options for the future, the options are:
A/ keep the existing system and spend $10k to get another years life out of it, after which it will need total replacement. This $10k will never generate a return on investment but will keep the things running for another year. Upgrading to a new system after a year will cost at least another $10k.
B/ install a complete new system based on a new more scalable architecture that will last at least 6 years and scale with the business growth for $12k. This $12k will generate a return on investment and provide major productivity benefits to the business.
Option B is a no brainer, it's simply so much more fiscally responsible and more practical it's not funny and this is the exact decision we are debating. I've worked for companies that due to shortsighted management and silly politics they have chosen the option A and then paid for it dearly when the system has finally fallen over in a screaming heap and they've come complaining to the IT dept that we should have told them about the issues earlier when we had written numerous reports warning them.
Hey you know New Zealand has FTTN…
"The average connection speed in New Zealand at the end of the 2012 calendar year was 4 megabits per second"
No I'm saying don't come here to "tell us" and when your are found wrong then say, oh, well, I don't really know too much about it…!
BTW – your income taxes weren't paying for the NBN…
I can't find the exact story I was looking for, but here's a good starting point for you.
"Politicians are fond of telling selective versions of the truth"
Renai would never do that…
… "No doubt the Australian public, or at least the 70 to 80 percent of it which supports Labor's NBN model,"
That statement is pure conjecture (that's being polite). There is no evidence to support it.
I wish I had the time to do a survey of "the Australian public" to determine what percentage of them actually know what the NBN is, in any meaningful sense. I would be surprised if it was even 50%.
Sorry Kevin, this is what we're referring to about doing a little research. You can go to any of the big mainstream media websites (www.smh.com.au or http://www.news.com.au are good enough places to start) and every poll on the Labor NBN was overwhelmingly in favor of FttH.
There is NO conjecture on it whatsoever, they were polls numbering up to the 10's of thousands, a more than substantial pool size. The Liberals did a wonderful job of selling the idea of voting Labor out, rather than endorsing Liberal policies, but whenever it came up the NBN was the shining light for Labor.
"I didn't say the opinion was correct. But unfortunately governments have to take public opinion into consideration. If they don't they get voted out."
Really? Polls on the NBN plans show people overwelmingly support the Labor plan over the Coalition plan, yet they are ignoring it.
"Turnbull is no dummy"
No, he is not dumb, just out of his area of expertise and should not be making tech choices himself.
"I'm sure he knows that what he is advocating is not the best long term solution for the country. But there's a budget. There are competing demands for money and there are debts to pay down."
Look, that would make sense if he was saving some money, he isn't. Posting bogus numbers and cherry picking bandwidth growth reports to support a predetermined course of action doesn't change what will actually happen.
"The people screaming loudest about the NBN maybe experts in technology, and probably know what they are talking about, but I doubt very much that they are also experts in economics"
Yet every one of them can do that basic maths the economists are putting in their reports and plug in realistic numbers and can see economist using Turnbulls figures will produce garbage, GIGO.
Only need for 18Mb in 2020? Really? Plan relies heavily on that. 50% resuse of FTTN in a FTTH rollout? Really? How about costing those "upgrades" like G.fast that they just gloss over when in reality it isn't the simple plug in they pretend it is, it's like a complete new rollout.
Fine doing reviews and CBA using accurate figures, but when you are plugging garbage numbers into them as Turnbull is doing to justify the technology he wants to use, they aren't worth a pinch of shit.
I've long held the view that decisions regarding long term public investments, be it NBN, education system, infrastructure, our health system, the environment, and ecosystems, should each be managed by a panel of subject experts in conjunction with economic experts, who are apolitical and independent of Governments.
Unlike our political parties they could think objectively and implement solutions which come to fruition beyond the next election, and the one after that :)
I think you just described Quigley and the pre election NBNCo.
"'Ive long held the view that decisions regarding long term public investments, be it NBN, education system, infrastructure, our health system, the environment, and ecosystems, should each be managed by a panel of subject experts in conjunction with economic experts, who are apolitical and independent of Governments."
Yet you, who admits he doesn't know too much about the NBN, has argued with and bagged people here who fit the very mould (in relation to the NBN) you say you support…
:/ amazing
BTW +1 Lionel, he did indeed describe NBNCo Mk1 to a T. Nicely spotted…
NBN: No Broadband Network
It's cheaper to build a 6 lane highway now than build a 4 lane highway and add 2 more lanes later, but we don't do that, because we can't afford it. So why the hell should we do it for your internet connection?
Get a life guys, there's more to it than how fast you can download that video …
The reality is we have a government that was democratically elected and you are not their advisers. Get over it.
"Get a life guys, there's more to it than how fast you can download that video …"
:/ amazing
Pretty obvious you are not here to "discuss" the NBN rollout.
You have got a bunch of arguments based on your obviously very limited knowledge of IT and you aren't open to discussing anything.
Si"The reality is we have a government that was democratically elected and you are not their advisers. Get over it."
Correct, they are not taking advice other than that which agrees with Turnbull.
How about you get over it, hey? We have every right to discuss the good points and short fallings of each plan without closed minded political stooges like you trolling us.
Now you are just trolling Kevin, congrats your true colours are now on display for all to see!
If you where serious about understanding why we need a new national communications network (aka the nbn) you'd read this report and come back with a different attitude:
It's an 8 lane highway. It is still an 8 lane highway. There are no plans I am aware of (certainly not in the next 10 years) to widen that 8 lane highway.
Do you know when that photo was taken?
But you are right; we don't ever overprovision highways for expected traffic over 30+ years…except err, always.
Like the same panel of economic experts that caused the GFC and the same panel of neo con experts that are engaged in large scale money printing operations and expecting it to work?
The real NBN is not being paid for by the taxpayer it's a commercial enterprise being paid for by it's customers in the same way every other business operates, Mr Fraudband's hotchpotch however will have to be a taxpayer funded operation because nobody is stupid enough to pay more for what we already have and what we already have is all we are going to get until the Con-alition is booted, Mr Fraudband and I'm no tech head Kerry are lynched.
The faster I download Game of Thrones series 4 the better I like it, ,more time watching less time downloading.
The faster I download Game of Thrones 4 the better I like it, more time watching less time downloading. You can go suck your fast cars, there's nothing better than a fast download.
And there is part of the problem.
Too many seeing Politics and managing a Nation as but a game with individual winners and losers, not realising they are acting like frogs in a slowly heating pot of water being lulled by the game into complacency
Haha, Gold, Makes me wish i had a FB account.
Fuck Mal Turnbull
"the idea that you would invest in a technology which will last for thirty years is pretty naive"
The idea of assuming FTTP technology will only last for 30 years is in itself naive.
The idea that Turnbull would invest our money in technology that will be out of date by the time it is built is not naive.
More like dangerous self-delusion, coupled with an apparent inability to relate to reality.
He is a member of the LNP, comes with the Territory
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You have to look at the bigger picture and that is the NCAA Tournament. A loss at Air Force means nothing when it comes to the MWC tournament. You are the top seed and will play the winner of the Wyoming/Nevada game Wednesday night in Las Vegas. The problem is that you may have dropped from a 2-seed to a 3-seed or 4. Beat the people you are supposed to beat. That is what set you apart from the rest of the MWC conference. Use this as a wake up call. Time to get focused again.


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APRIL 1, 2008—The Law School's 120th Commencement Ceremony for the Class of 2008 will be held the morning of Saturday, May 17, 2008, at Northrop Memorial Auditorium. Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, a St. Paul native and Law School graduate, class of 1986, will deliver the Commencement Address.
Pawlenty practiced law and was a City Council member in Eagan, Minnesota, before being elected to the Minnesota House of Representatives from Dakota County's District 38B in 1992. During his years in the House, he was chair of the Rules and Legislative Administration Committee and served on several others, including General Legislation and the Civil and Family Law Division of the Judiciary Subcommittee. He was the Republican Party Majority Leader from 1999 to 2002.
He served in the House until 2002, when he was elected Minnesota's 39th governor. He was re-elected in 2006.
The Commencement Ceremony will begin promptly at 10:00 a.m. when Assistant Dean of Students Erin Keyes leads graduates into the auditorium. In addition to Governor Pawlenty's address, the event features a J.D. and an LL.M. class graduation address and presentation of student, teaching, and excellence in scholarship, leadership, and service awards. A reception on Northrop Terrace and Mall will follow the ceremony.
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Jesse Hardin (G, 6-1, So., Warren, Ohio/Harding) has been named the GLIAC South Division Player of the Week. Hardin averaged 25.0 points per game in road wins at Northern Michigan and Michigan Tech. Hardin scored a career high 30 points at Michigan Tech, including 17 first half points on 7-11 from the floor while playing 38 minutes. The Cavs defeated Tech 93-83. Hardin scored 20 points at Northern Michigan as the Walsh defeated the Wildcats 95-66. Hardin is currently ninth in scoring (18.8) in the GLIAC. He also is leading the Cavs in scoring and is shooting 53% from the field and 41% from three-point.
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Can you think back and remember what it was like to really
struggle with a concept? I've got no pride. I've done this a ton of times--riding
my bike, algebra, Avogadro's number...and perspective drawing. I thought once I
got to college and started studying the stuff I really was passionate about I
wouldn't stumble anymore. Wrong!
Perspective drawing was really hard for me to recognize in
works of art. I was okay when discussing how artists built on one-point
perspective to create more and more complicated spatial scenarios with
two-point perspective and three-point perspective. But starting to apply it or
recognize where vanishing points were in works made me cross-eyed.
And what's really ideal is that the producers made Perspective Made Simple
from the artist's perspective (no pun intended). What I mean it is tailor-made
with your concerns and goals in mind as a painter or draftsman.
Interested? Watch a couple of clips from Perspective Made
Simple and see how uncomplicated the whole idea of perspective drawing becomes.
Perspective Made
Simple: Spacing Objects Equally in Space
Perspective Made
Simple: How to Draw Shadows
What a tease.....showing the trailer of "Perspective Made Simple: A Practical Guide for Artists" and then telling us it's out of stock.
When will it be available?
You can obtain Perspective Made Simple, if you go to Creative Catalyst Production; www.ccpvideos.com. That is where I go mine.
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|Papers (1947-1966) of Nicholas A. Cipriani consist of photographs of Order Sons of Italy in America functions. Included are pictures of a Delaware Grand Lodge Banquet, Supreme Deputy Nicholas Cipriani (1966); Delaware Grand Lodge officers (1966); Pennsylvania Grand Lodge Presentation of a portrait of Frank Tropea (1962); and the Pennsylvania Grand Lodge Building Committee (1947).
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An administrative judge in the Court of Common Pleas, Philadelphia, Pa., Nicholas Cipriani has held several offices in the Order Sons of Italy in America. He served the Pennsylvania Grand Lodge as Second Assistant Grand Venerable (1975-1977), First Assistant Grand Venerable (1977-1981), and Grand Venerable (1981-1985). In 1987, he was elected National Orator of OSIA.
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Biblical name (a feminine form derived from Hebrew din 'judgement'), borne by a daughter of Jacob. She was raped by Shechem but avenged by her brothers Simeon and Levi (Genesis 34). In modern times it is generally taken as a variant of the much more common Diana.
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Big corporation's ad shows a priest and his parish in a positive lightBy
We've all suffered for our church as late-night comedians and Hollywood movie makers have used the Catholic Church and the priesthood as a source of ridicule.
These attacks have started to slow down a little lately from their high water mark of a few years back.
But I have to say: I didn't expect something this positive:
Here's a restaurant giving a glowing view of a Catholic parish's fish fry — with beaming faces, a friendly priest, and there's a statue of Our Blessed Mother.
Yes, of course, Long John Silver's is just trying to sell some more food. Other companies (movies and TV shows especially) have tried to make money, too, but they did it by attacking our faith. Give credit to this company: They are complimenting the parish fish fry and hoping you will get that same great feeling when you eat at their restaurant. Even if their motive is to make money for themselves, this company is spending their own money telling people that parish celebrations are fun. For at least 30 seconds, many people are finally getting a message about our Church that isn't negative.
I'll take it.
24 thoughts on "Big corporation's ad shows a priest and his parish in a positive light"
I have very fond memories of Long John Silver's on Lenten Friday nights. There were always a bunch of other Catholic families there, and it was fun to have dinner with other kids from my school. I definitely appreciate this commercial!
If the Church would only stop bashing alternative folks and focus on what this commercial depicts, they would begin to win hearts and minds in the open marketplace of ideas. Time to embrace marriage equality.
Joshua, I enjoyed the positive news. Let's provide it without knocking the making of money. For one, do we know they are "just" trying to sell food? Maybe they are also trying to provide jobs and offer a worthwhile product to the marketplace…and maybe their motive is not ONLY money but also to earn it in a positive way.
I am a Catholic, African American Female and was quite pleased with the 'Fish Fry Commercial'. It showed a diverse congregation and shed a positive light on the Catholic faith. Thank you.
Yes, DO patronize Long John Silvers. They are struggling right now to stay afloat (no pun intended). They can use your support!


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May 19, 2009
The 22nd-ranked University of New Mexico women's golf team is in 16th place after the first round of the NCAA Championships being played in Owings Mills, Md. The Lobos shot a 23-over 311 on the par-72, 6,443-yard Caves Valley Golf Club outside Baltimore. Results and live stats are available at www.GolfStat.com.
UNM trails surprise first-round leader Denver by 17 shots in the 24-team field. The Pioneers fired a 6-over 294 to lead UCLA by two shots. Defending champion Southern California is fourth at 301.
The Lobos got off to a great start in the morning wave, leading the pack at 2-under after the first four holes. However, they played the final five holes of the front in 11-over and were 14-over on the back nine.
"This course is a great test as it should be at nationals," said UNM head coach Jill Trujillo. "The fairways are narrow, the rough is thick and the greens are extremely fast. The worst thing you can do is be in the rough. That almost guarantees a lost shot."
Junior Britney Choy led the Lobos with a 1-over 73 (37-36), her best score since a 72 in the final round of the Dick McGuire Invitational in Albuquerque last September. Choy, who had three birdies and four bogeys, is tied for seventh place.
Denver's Stephanie Sherlock and North Carolina's Catherine O'Donnell share the individual lead at 2-under 70.
"Britney was a real bright spot for us," said Trujillo.
Lobo junior Jodi Ewart, expected to challenge for medalist honors, struggled to a 78 (39-39) and is tied for 60th in the 126-player field. The 78 ties her highest round of the season.
Ewart was 1-under after a birdie at the par-3 4th, but made five bogeys and a double in a seven-hole stretch from 5 through 11. A 6 at the par-4 10th was only her fifth double bogey of the season.
"I have no doubt that Jodi will bring it back the next three days," said Trujillo.
Freshman Rebecca Hellbom is tied for 79th after shooting a 79 (37-42). She made birdies at 3 and 4 to start 2-under. Hellbom's undoing came at the par-3 12th when she hit her tee shot into a hazard and ended with a triple-bogey 6.
Lobo senior Mikaela Backstedt shot an 81 (40-41) while fellow senior Morgan Grantham (41-41) had an 82.
New Mexico begins second round action Wednesday at 11:20 a.m. MDT. The Lobos are again paired with Duke and Texas


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ACO Retreat Friday
UVA Health System ACO Retreat: Part 1
Building an Accountable Care Organization (ACO) at UVA
Keynote Speaker: Steven J. Bernstein, MD,
Dr. Bernstein is a Professor of Internal Medicine and Assistant Dean for Clinical Affairs at the School of Medicine and a Research Scientist, Department of Health Management and Policy, School of Public Health, at the University of Michigan. He also directs the University of Michigan Health System participation in the Physician Group Incentive Program sponsored by BCBS of Michigan and quality improvement efforts related to the CMS Pioneer ACO program.
Disclosure: Dr. Bernstein has no financial affiliations to disclose
Originally recorded on February 7, 2014
Participants will learn how to:
- Describe the characteristics of an accountable care organization.
- Discuss the payment models and the shared savings programs available through Medicare.
- Discuss the essential ACO functions and their link to improved healthcare, reduced costs through improvement.
- Discuss strategies needed to effectively launch and implement an ACO.
Participation requirements:
- Review the video
- Complete the posttest
Launch date: March 15, 2014
Expiration date: March 14, 2015
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The University of Virginia School of Medicine designates this internet enduring material for a maximum of 1.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits.TM Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.


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ATM Safety
- Keep your PIN number a secret. Never write it down or share it with anyone – not even family members.
- Be aware of your surroundings, particularly at night. Make sure the ATM is free of sight obstructions. If you observe suspicious persons or circumstances, do not use the machine.
- Take a careful look at the ATM before you use it. Be suspicious if something looks out of the ordinary. Skimmers can take all different sorts of shapes and sizes.
- Bring someone with you when using an ATM at night. If you can't, use an ATM that is located in a public area like a convenience or grocery store.
- Have your ATM card ready and in your hand as you approach the ATM.
- Use your body to "shield" the ATM keyboard as you enter your PIN. Use your free hand to block the view of you entering your PIN. Pinhole cameras can be difficult to detect.
- Always take your receipts or transaction records with you.
- Do not count or visually display any money you received from the ATM. Immediately put your money into your pocket or purse and count it later.
- If you are using a drive-up ATM, be sure passenger windows are rolled up and all doors are locked. If you leave your car and walk to the ATM, lock your car.


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Givenchy Summer 2010 Collection
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We'll probably start seeing Givenchy on-counter in mid-to-late April, possibly early May. (I always find Givenchy releases later in each season–the earliest of the summer launches are due out for early April!) Thanks to Debbie for the deets.
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In addition to her softball interview with Imam Abdul Rauf on This Week, Christiane Amanpour hosted a panel on the state of Islam. She managed to find an evangelical who supported the Ground Zero mosque. All three of the panelists were pro–Ground Zero. Even worse, Amanpour — with not a shred of evidence — claimed that mosque opponents are taking the position that al-Qaeda is building the Ground Zero mosque. Huh? Is anyone making that argument? She also takes as fact that the Ground Zero incident was "whipped up by certain political interests."
This sort of performance merely reinforces the perception that Amanpour plays fast and loose with the facts. And let's get real — there is more than sloppiness at play here. Whether claiming that waterboarding is akin to torture by despotic regimes, parroting the CAIR line, advocating against the Iraq war, or throwing softballs at the Ground Zero mosque team, she has hardly been a role model for balanced journalism. Even liberal media critics have figured out that this is not the venue for her.
As a colleague with mainstream-news experience observed recently, it is hard to "believe ABC expects to hold or build an audience this way." Maybe an MSNBC shouting-heads show would be up her alley — but a serious Sunday network talk show? At some point I suspect that the ABC brain trust will have to admit error and get her out of there.


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Release Date: 08 March,2014
Storyline: Nimirndhu nil (english: stand upright) is an upcoming indian tamil action-thriller film written and directed by samuthirakani featuring jayam ravi and amala paul in the lead roles. the film's soundtrack and background score were composed by g. v. prakash kumar. the film will be a high voltage action packed entertainer which sees the actor as a revolutionist for a social cause. this film is simultaneously being made in telugu as janda pai kapiraju.See full storyline Read on Wikipedia
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Organizations Directory
Alpha Delta Gamma (ADG)
Alpha Delta Gamma is the National Catholic Social Fraternity. We coordinate a number of events on and around campus that focus on our five basic principles: Social, Scholastic, Service, School Spirit, and Spiritual.
Alpha Phi Omega (APO)
Alpha Phi Omega is the National Co-ed Service Fraternity. We follow the principles of: developing leadership, promoting friendship, providing service to humanity; and furthering the freedom that is our national, educational, and intellectual heritage.
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)
ASCE at CUA is the student chapter of the national organization which coordinates social events for Civil Engineering students and provides opportunities for all students to connect with faculty and staff in the Civil Engineering department.
American Society of Heating, Refrigerating, and Air-Conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE)
To advance the arts and sciences of heating, ventilating, air-conditioning and refrigerating to serve humanity and promote a sustainable world.
American Society of Mechanical Engineers (ASME)
The purpose of this organization is to promote a positive relationship between mechanical engineering students through social activities, promote academics through co-sponsorship of senior projects, &share talents with the community via community service
Arab Business Club (ABC)
The purposes of the organization are among others bringing together students interested in Arab business and economies in a coaching and networking environment.
Arabic Club at the Catholic University of America (Arabic Club)
This club is for students both Arab and non-Arab regardless of religion to be able to grow and learn about their interest in the Middle East and Arab World.
Association of Computing Machinery (ACM)
The association for computing machinery is an educational and social organization dedicated to fostering interest in and discussion of the topics related to information technology.
Best Buddies
Best Buddies® is an organization dedicated to establishing a global volunteer movement that creates opportunities for one-to-one friendship and integrated employment and leadership development for people with intellectual and development disabilities.
Biomedical Engineering Society (BMES)
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Warmer winter weather
Jan. 30, 2013 @ 01:17 PM
On a warm sunny afternoon Tuesday as temperatures reached 68 degrees, there was plenty of activity at Crestview Park in Rutherfordton. Taking ride on a bright yellow slide children Alton Freeman, Nicholas Siviglia, Hannah Siviglia, Hadley Freeman and Taylor Guzman were also focused on Jake, Golden Retriever, who hadn't figured a way to join them. While the children were playing, Emma Bradley, took a stroll with her grandparents, Glenn and Patty Kelly as mom, Mandy Bradley, pushed the stroller. While yesterday was spring like, there is a 100 percent chance of showers today as temperatures remain high that could bring a stormy day.


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I have
tmux installed. But I can not scroll up or down.
I.e. as soon as I
tmux I get only a portion of the screen and can not scroll up.
crtl-b +
Page Up does not work since I am in
Mac and I can not figure out why these keys are messed up and don't properly work.
Also neither
ctrl-b +
[ works. It is really annoying and I am pretty sure it is the
Mac (first time user and I am really starting to be annoyed.....)
How can I do scrolling in
tmux (on Mac I guess should be part of the question)
I will try to describe my problem more:
When I am in
tmux only a portion of the text shows up. If I try to scroll up or down the console scrolls up but not the actual text.
If I do
CTRL+b followed by
[, I see in the status bar
*tmux, and If I press the up or down arrow I can actually go up/down on the text line by line. When I press
q I see in the status line
When I do
CTRL+b follow
Page UP or
Page the console goes up or down but not the text.
How can I scroll up or down the text in more than one line at a time?