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5.0 out of 5 stars "It rains nine months a year in Seattle."
In 1993, Nora Ephron directed and co-wrote the screenplay for the charming film "Sleepless in Seattle". The story, which was written by Jeff Arch, is about two strangers: the recently widowed architect Sam Baldwin (Tom Hanks) and writer Annie Reed (Meg Ryan). Sam lives in Seattle with his 8-year-old son Jonah (Ross Malinger), and Annie lives on the east coast...
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not Great, but it Works as a Feel-Good Modern Fable
Nora Ephron's SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE (1993) is a nice fairy-tale of a movie that takes its primary inspiration from a classic Hollywood film, is written & directed by a chick-flick veteran, stars a pair of actors in what is at least their third on-screen pairing, and somehow comes out smelling as fresh as a newly-picked rose. This is a perfect date film, tailor-made for...
Published on Feb. 29 2004 by Robert J. Schneider
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5.0 out of 5 stars "It rains nine months a year in Seattle.",
M. Hart "Sci-Fi Fan" (USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle 10th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
In 1993, Nora Ephron directed and co-wrote the screenplay for the charming film "Sleepless in Seattle". The story, which was written by Jeff Arch, is about two strangers: the recently widowed architect Sam Baldwin (Tom Hanks) and writer Annie Reed (Meg Ryan). Sam lives in Seattle with his 8-year-old son Jonah (Ross Malinger), and Annie lives on the east coast and is recently engaged to the very allergic Walter (Bill Pullman). While driving from her parent's home on Christmas Eve, Annie turns on the radio, which is tuned to a talk show hosted by radio-psychologist Dr. Marcia Fieldstone (voice of Caroline Aaron). Wanting to help his dad find a new wife, Jonah calls Dr. Fieldstone who convinces Jonah to put Sam on the phone. Initially reluctant to talk, Sam suddenly lets out his emotions about how much he misses his deceased wife and how difficult it is for him to sleep at night. Hence, he is given the name of "Sleepless in Seattle" on the show. Annie is deeply moved as she hears him, as are many other women who heard the show. After discussing the show with her friend and coworker Becky (Rosie O'Donnell), Annie is determined to meet Sam, in spite of the fact that she's engaged to Walter and Sam lives 3000 miles away. Annie eventually writes to Sam in care of the radio station (along with several other hundred women who had done the same), and tries to rationalize her behavior by seeking more advice from her psychologist brother Dennis (David Hyde Pierce). Thinking that all of the women who have written could be crazy, Sam has no interest in any of them and begins to date the cackling Victoria (Barbara Garrick) after talking with his friend Jay (Rob Reiner); but Jonah likes Annie from the content of her letter and wants his Dad to fly to NYC to meet her on the Empire State Building on Valentine's Day, like in the 1957 film "An Affair to Remember".
"Sleepless in Seattle" is a very engaging and entertaining film, in part because of the touching story, but also because of the fine acting from Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, Rosie O'Donnell and Ross Malinger. Other memorable characters in the film include Sam's friends Greg (Victor Garber) and Suzy (Rita Wilson); as well as Johan's 8-year-old friend Jessica (Gaby Hoffman), Claire Bennett (Dana Ivey) and the deceased Maggie Abbott Baldwin (Carey Lowell). Memorable scenes in the film include the funeral, Jonah & Sam on the phone with Dr. Fieldstone, Annie listening to the radio, Annie at work with Becky, Annie writing her letter, Annie with Dennis, Annie's trip to Seattle, Annie in NYC with Walter and the closing scenes. The film's wonderful soundtrack includes two songs performed by Jimmy Durante (1893-1980, "As Time Goes By" and "Make Someone Happy"), as well as Gene Autrey's "Back in the Saddle Again", Louis Armstong's performance of "A Kiss to Build a Dream On", and many more. The film received two Oscar nominations for Best Song and Best Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen.
Overall, I rate "Sleepless in Seattle" with 5 out of 5 stars. Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan would perform together again in the 1998 film "You've Got Mail" (which wasn't as good). They also worked together in the 1990 film "Joe Versus the Volcano". David Hyde Pierce went on to play another psychologist shortly thereafter in the very popular 1993-2004 TV series "Frasier", which ironically takes place in Seattle.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Not Great, but it Works as a Feel-Good Modern Fable,
Robert J. Schneider (Tacoma, WA USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Sleepless In Seattle [Deluxe Widescreen Presentation] (DVD)
Nora Ephron's SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE (1993) is a nice fairy-tale of a movie that takes its primary inspiration from a classic Hollywood film, is written & directed by a chick-flick veteran, stars a pair of actors in what is at least their third on-screen pairing, and somehow comes out smelling as fresh as a newly-picked rose. This is a perfect date film, tailor-made for Valentine's Day. It creates the proper romantic mood for you & yours, while not requiring anyone to think too hard; put it to you this way, you won't miss much during your obligatory necking sessions.
The Hollywood classic is AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER (1957), to which numerous references are made throughout this film. The two stars of that earlier picture are Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr. The two stars of this film are, of course, Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. The combination of them with chick-flick queen Nora Ephron would lead you to believe that this movie is super-schmaltzy. Although the story unfolds according to the predictable manipulations of Ephron, and contains too many too-good-to-be-believable coincidences, it is ripe with sarcastic humor and even downplays its own hokiness. There's even a cute reference in it that a character makes towards films of this type.
It is very well-acted. As has been mentioned, this film was released in 1993, when Tom Hanks was finding himself as an actor; in fact, his very next film was PHILADELPHIA (also 1993), for which he deservedly won his first Oscar for Best Actor in an extremely complex role. This performance, while not as deep, is still quietly nuanced--and very sympathetic. It rings true, unlike the machinations of the script. Meg Ryan is also in fine form here, really finding her own quiet nuances while avoiding her previous tendencies to play cutsy. Ross Malinger, playing the young-but-wise son of Tom Hanks' character, does very well, even if the script provides him with some pretty unbelievable things to say at times. We also get a fine performance, even if it is essentially one-note, from Bill Pullman; I loved his touching scene with Ryan at the rooftop hotel restaurant late in the film. Also adding to the festivities are Rosie O'Donnell, David Hyde Pierce and Rob Reiner; each contributing his/her own unique brand of comedy. There's even a memorable cameo by Tom Hanks' real-life wife Rita Wilson.
Lastly, I like the way this movie makes good use of its Seattle and New York City locations. SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE may not make you sleepless, but it will entertain you, and maybe even bring out some of the hopeless romantic lurking somewhere in the depths of your heart and soul.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The Best Movie For Anyone In Love,
Josh Andrews (El Paso, TX USA) - See all my reviews
This is a small message I wrote on a message board, and I felt like sharing this with all of you, because I don't think I can write my own review for the movie right now after having expressed myself.
This movie, is truly, for anyone who's in love, and needs to know if it's true.
(Yesterday) I was feeling depressed throughout the day. I'm sure some of you know about my situation - I'm in love with this person, and I know it's love for sure, but I just don't know how to express myself. I was able to say "Hi" to this person of Friday, and I got my own "Hello" back. The moment when we saw face to face and our eyes met - it was just overwhelming. I'm sure that some of you are probably thinking 'This kid's 15 - he doesn't know the true meaning of love!' - but I say different. I've been having to deal with this situation for a few weeks now, and after watching Sleepless In Seattle, I've come to realize that I'm truly in love. Some of the things Annie (Meg Ryan), Sam (Tom Hanks), and Jonah (the son) did drove me to tears - they even drove me to laughter, like when Annie jumped out of bed to go downstairs, get the phone and the radio, and hide in the broom closet so she could listen to Jonah on the radio.
What made it so special to me, is that even though you may think you're in love, chances are, you're really not, and you're still trying to find that special someone for you. Well, since Jonah had called in to that radio station and Annie suddenly found herself interested by this whole situation, Annie began to do crazy things, which in the end, weren't crazy at all. She told lies to her fiance so she could go to Seattle and see Sam and Jonah. When she first got off the plane, the chemistry between Annie and Sam really showed - even more so when they encountered each other at the street where Annie was almost hit by a semi, and almost by a taxi. The chemistry they had, and Annie's feelings for Sam really got to me. It showed me that I am in love, and that it's for certain. Sure, things may not work out for me, but I know I'll still be happy, being able to see this person for the rest of the year - and who knows, maybe even the next two. Maybe even after I get out of High School.
Anyway, I felt like sharing this with you all, because this is truly a wonderful movie for anyone who's in love, and is sure it's real. I'm feeling really choked up now. Hopefully I won't feel so insecure anymore - really, being who you are, makes you who you are. Chances are, the one who's meant for you may be closer than you think. Even though they may be so far away, you'll still have these true feelings inside. I'm going to bed in awhile, but I'll be checking back before I do, and throughout the following days.
I love what it says on the DVD box.
What if someone you never met,
someone you never saw,
someone you never knew,
was the only someone for you?
It just goes to show that even though we may not think it's possible, there's always the possibility that there's true love out there. No matter how close, or how far away it may be.
And that love can find you at any time. <-- A friend, who I told this to, said that should also be on the DVD box.
I hope you all enjoyed reading this as much as I did writing it. Goodnight, everyone, from Sleepless In El Paso.
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5.0 out of 5 stars A Classic!,
Shepherdess Extraordinaire (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle 10th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
I first watched this movie when it first came out and watched it again this past Valentine's Day. Maybe it's where I am in my life now, but I loved it so much more this time. This is a classic that will be watched over and over again. There is so much substance to this movie that makes many of today's romantic comedies shallow. I will be watching this every year on Valentine's Day.
4.0 out of 5 stars The Need For Happy Endings,
Robert C. Day "Rob Day" (Ottawa, Ontario Canada) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle 10th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
While many viewers would suggest that this is a sugar-coated fantasy that shouldn't rate a second look and in making that determination they miss the entire point of the movie. The movies' underlying theme is the earnest hope that all of us have tucked deep down inside that "Somewhere" there is a person to love us. This movie, when thought about earnestly, notes the adversity that men and women must face in order to find happiness and fulfillment. However, it offers hope to those who are searching for the someone that they can connect with in their search to find someone to fill their emotional needs as a person. This movies' central theme is that their is always hope. The characters find that despite the various off-beat ways that one can find that "special" someone there is always someone to be found at the end of the search whether it be a momentary gazing or a radio talk show program. If you are a cynic you might overlook this movie but if you are like the majority of us, this movie is an affirmation of life and love.
4.0 out of 5 stars Very original storyline!,
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This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle 10th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
As a rule, I like romantic comedies. But even I can admit that most of the time, the plots are somewhat lacking, if not out-and-out "redos" of some other movie. However, not so with this movie; the storyline here a unique and charming twist. Before I begin gushing, I'll discuss the one issue I had with this movie: the sexual references. Totally inappropriate coming out of the mouth of an 8-yr old, and not what I would expect of a PG movie.
Having said that, the story, if somewhat implausible, was definitely engaging. Tom Hanks will break your heart as Sam, a widowed father trying to put the pieces of his life together--working hard to be a good father while depending on his son to help him "get out of bed in the morning, & breathe in & out all day".
Meg Ryan is always charming (well, except for in Top Gun), but Annie is probably her most charming role. Her struggle between a stable, predictable life with her soon to be husband and what she begins to perceive as her "destiny" culminates with a trip to the Empire State Building and a very touching scene as Annie hits it off with Josh who badly needs a mother's love.
The ties it makes to "An Affair to Remember" add a humorous sentimentality to this movie, but in no way "copy" the plot of the old classic. In fact, these scenes poke gentle fun at the movie, without being disrespectful or harsh.
Not necessarily a classic itself, but all in all a really good flick!
4.0 out of 5 stars 'You want to be in love in a movie',
This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle 10th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
OK, it's corny, it stars Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan, but who cares? The story is perfect. It's predictable, and it's obvious what happens, but never mind. It's one of those movies that you can put your feet up, kick the cat out, and watch, without having to think about things. It's not one of those complicated movies with lots of twists and turns. It's simplistic, and that's good, when you're feeling low, or just plain normal.
Now Meg Ryan's popularity is slightly diminishing these days, and after her now infamous appearance (for UK viewers) on Parkinson, where she acted bored, and generally defensive, and refused to answer questions. These movies, along with You've Got Mail etc, are great to watch, before she became big headed and what have you.
There are a lot of references to an old movie, starring Cary Grant and Debra someone, so if you haven't seen it, it's pretty obvious (it gets explained throughout the movie, with a lot of tears from the chicks, and groans from the big hard guys), but it doesn't really add anything to the movie.
Jonah Baldwin (Tom Hanks son in the movie) is played brilliantly by Ross Malinger. He had me in fits, especially in his OTT dramatic scene, when Sam announces he's going to get laid over the weekend away with the women with the hyena laugh. Sam tells Jonah to "shut up", and Jonah comes storming back through from his room, saying "tell me to shut up". He is so adorable!
Annie (Meg Ryan) and her best friend, Becky, (Rosie O'Donnell) comes out with some great lines during this movie! Meg is playing her cute & quirky character, so she comes out with a great one: "When a man is a widower why do we say he was widowed? Why don't we say he was widowered?" and "Destiny is something we've invented because we can't stand the fact that everything that happens is accidental." Rosie's character Becky is so laid back, she's practically horizontal! Everything is said in an extremely bored manner, meaning she comes out with terrific quotes like: "A movie! That's your problem! You don't want to be in love. You want to be in love in a movie." and "Verbal ability is a highly overrated thing in a guy, and it's our pathetic need for it that gets us into so much trouble."
For a 10th anniversary edition, there isn't much on it. The cover is pretty cute (I always prefer black covers to other covers - I'm letting my 'dark' side sneak out), but the extras aren't much to write home about. You've got a music video from some guy and Celine Dion; an audio commentary by director Nora Ephron and co-writer Delia Ephron and a "Love In The Movies" featurette. Oh, and you also get some other trailers for other movies that include My Best Friend's Wedding, this film, Philadelphia, and two others, which I'd never heard of her, so that's my excuse for not remembering them!
This is a terrific movie, and despite the fact it's completely and utterly predictable, it's great. Don't argue with me.
And will someone please tell me what the hell "tiramisu" means? It's mentioned during the scene where Sam is talking about how the last time he was out there, and we never get told what it means!
5.0 out of 5 stars All the elements of a fine romantic comedy,
Woodrow "marinesci" (NY, NJ, PA, ME) - See all my reviews
Sleepless depicts a story of romance the way many of us (men included) would like to see it. A guy that's being torn-apart inside after the loss of his beloved wife (cancer) moves himself and his son from Chicago to Seattle in hopes of making a fresh start; he ultimately realizes that, irregardless, the move has not put him any closer to recovering from his loss. This is brought to light not only by the phone conversation with a national radio psychiatrist (which is what gets the ball rolling with Meg Ryan), but through the splendid choice of music throughout the movie that let's you really know what's going on in the characters' heads. You just can't help but smile at Hanks playing catch on the beach with his "son" to "A Wink and a Smile", performed by Harry Connick, Jr. I particularly enjoyed the discussion pertaining to "The Dirty Dozen" in response to the multiple "An Affair to Remember" references. With an all-star cast, terrific musical score (featuring the likes of Nat King Cole, Connick, Jr., Joe Cocker, and many others), and directing that reminds one of "When Harry Met Sally", "Sleepless in Seattle" is sure to please all.
4.0 out of 5 stars A chick flick, but I liked it, too,
David Bonesteel (Fresno, CA United States) - See all my reviews
A woman who is about to be married (Meg Ryan) hears a recently widowed man (Tom Hanks) speak on a radio call-in program, becomes convinced that he may be her soulmate, and decides to track him down. This gentle romantic comedy has an old-fashioned charm that will appeal to many. In fact, the filmmakers acknowledge this traditional romantic appeal by consciously referencing and evoking the 1957 soaper, "An Affair to Remember." Ryan makes this film work; her character goes to a great deal of trouble and turns her life upside down on very slim motivation, but she is able to project a belief in the material that really made me think that she might be in the grip of fate. The whole thing culminates in a sweet resolution atop the Empire State Building, resulting in a satisfying film. The one sour note was the character of Ryan's fiancée, a Very Nice Man who is so wishy-washy that his only reaction when Ryan walks out on him during dinner is a sheepish grin; but then, I suppose such uninvolved blandness is what made it possible for her to leave him in the first place.
5.0 out of 5 stars One of my "perfect" films,
Mr. K. Ward "Kevin Ward" (Hapton, UK) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Sleepless in Seattle (VHS Tape)
I only got this movie 3 days ago and I am already on the seventh viewing. I just love romantic movies with a happy ending. Although sex is the buzzword these days for most things, this film is notable for its absence as are most other things you might expect to find in a romantic movie.
So what is the attraction ? Well firstly two first class actors. Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. The storyline is such that they keep "missing" each other but getting occasional glimpses of one another. All the time I was willing them to meet even though it might shorten the movie. Without Jonah (Ross Malinger), Hanks' son, the movie would be doomed to failure since Hanks is no lady pursuer, but Jonah, helped by his little girlfriend mini travel agent make sure of success. This is supposed to be a chick's movie, but as a "guy" I just loved it. My guess is you will want to buy "An Affair to Remember" too to get a fuller picture. I just love movies with subtle little interesting things in them you miss first time round.
If you are looking for reality, this movie is not for you but if you want a lovely story with a happy ending it is lovely. Anybody whose marriage has been "magic" will identify with this film.
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So Obamacare is upheld as a 'tax'. The government can order people to purchase any good/service of its choosing as part of their 'tax' power. My opinion of this possibility was perhaps best elucidated here.
What can't the government order people to do as part of its 'tax' power? The answer, clearly, is nothing. Absolutely nothing. Little did we know, the 16th Amendment was a stealth repeal of the U.S. Constitution.
progressives fucking fascists. You won today, fascists.
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so let me ask you something:
I go on the base assumption of:
fact: Society does not want to let people who do not have insurance die on the hospital steps, turned away because they couldn't pay.
do you agree with that statement? I take it as a fact.
Now, stemming from that, since I am a fiscal conservative, BECAUSE we're not willing to let you die on the steps, and we're going to treat you anyway at our expense even if you have no insurance, I want you to have insurance.
Which is why I think it's totally reasonable to force people to buy insurance.
Another perfectly reasonable alternatives would be for everyone's ID to have a little code on it, and if you choose to "decline" insurance, then you get left for dead on the steps of the hospital when you can't pay… but I get the impression Society doesn't want that…
-KD – who definitely doesn't consider himself progressive or fascist
ps – this also relates to Bloomberg's large soda ban: if you want The State to treat your fat ass for obesity and diabetes, then The State is going to try to prevent you from becoming a fat ass… makes total sense: benefits come with restrictions…
and note – my logic is philosophical – I have no basis in legal argument, and no interest in it.
ok i hear you. I guess it doesn't bother me too much because i want the right thing to happen, and I think this is the right thing. Then again, your point is, I think "what if it's not the right thing?"
I guess I'll tackle that when I get to it…
ps – as a non-working married man who buys his own health insurance, I can't begin to tell you how f*cked up the system is from top to bottom, which is another reason why I think it needs reform.
SC: you wrote "My first comment: was this a big problem? Really? Do you have numbers? I doubt it. What made you convinced it was? "
of course it's a problem – it's a HUGE problem…here's just one article from a simple search, detailing ONE hospital's costs:
In Texas alone, the number is $4Billion a year…
Wow, that is some fiscal conservatism; the government can control your whole life, cuz they know what is better for you than you do.
Your logic may be "philosophical", but it completely ignores the definition of words and whole categories of ideas.
You are a tremendously brainwashed individual.
good talk, thanks, you didn't argue with a single point of my pretty simple logical chain.
so let me simplify further:
1) do you want to pay for the medical care of people who don't have insurance?
I do not.
So there are two obvious solutions: 1) refuse to treat people who don't have insurance, or 2) require that everyone has insurance.
I don't think that society is willing to do the former, hence the latter is pretty reasonable, and has nothing to do with the "government controlling your whole life cuz they know what is better for you than you do"
as I mentioned, if you think that you know better than the 'Gubmint and don't need insurance, that's great – we'll code your id "DO NOT TREAT" if you then can't pay for needed care, and we'll let you die on the hospital steps.. That's totally cool with me – but pretty unrealistic too…
Here's the thing kid dynamite. Let's say that someone proposed euthanizing 130,000 elderly patients per year because they're not paying their bills and the hospitals can't afford to treat them*.
Now, is this an outrage?
That depends. If it's done by a government run health care system, no – because it will never be reported as an outrage. People don't give a damn in any organized way about any policy unless someone organizes them to do so. We have Obamacare not because of your logic but because the press decided to report on the situation as unsustainable.
* Yeah, that happens:
No one cares – it's reported in the Daily Mail which means that everyone can ignore it because it turns on their partisan systems. Of course a doctor who is involved in the process is making the claims and he's free to speak, right? Unfortunately only the Daily Mail chooses to report about it. Unfortunate, that.
Oh, by the way, great post, SC. I linked it at Astute Bloggers.
dueling side thread to my own other comment thread, SC: is it fascist to require people who drive cars to buy auto insurance?
Kid Dynamite,
What I want has nothing to do with Conservatism. Conservatism is about respecting the Individual human beings authority over himself and his property.
That is the reason I told you that you are ignoring the definition of words and whole classes of ideas.
You don't know what you're talking about.
The giveaway that you are not a Conservative, and that you do not understand the most basic concept of Conservatism is your approval of Michael Bloomberg's soda ban.
According to your twisted definition of "Conservatism", the government is allowed to tell people what foods they can and can't put in their bodies. Amazing.
the Bloomberg ban, as I'm sure you are aware, does not tell people what foods they can and can't put in their bodies. It merely makes one small attempt to curb ignoramuses from making themselves fatter.
You are still free to buy all the soda you want and be as fat as you want to be, and have the Gov't pay for your care… hmmm… that sounds… so… liberal? progressive?
ironic, eh?
Damnit, Sonic Charmer, I really wanted you to be wrong on this one. Why do you have to be right all the damn time?
At this point, I agree; Obama will be re-elected.
He is, as Bin Laden says, "the strong horse."
You want the government to enforce property rights. And defend borders. And do XYZ. So you believe the government has the right to do certain things.
So I guess your definition of why it should be able to do XYZ and not ABC is that some document a bunch of dudes wrote over 200 years ago says so.
But the people who interpret that document are chosen by people the are elected by people that are alive today. And people alive today might not like that document. It's no surprise then that they change the document.
Government can do whatever it wants, always and everywhere. Little pieces of paper aren't going to stop it. Only if those allowed to vote believe in limited government will we get limited government. If they don't believe in it the end of limited government is inevitable, whatever a piece of paper says. The paper can only slow the process a little, a sustained public desire to subvert it can't be denied. People obeyed the constitution in the past because they (voters, not universal sufferage in many cases) believed in it, not because the paper had some binding power over the body politic.
Your philisophical arguement for limited government relies forms of government that are compatible. Democracy is not compatible. You must call for the end of democracy if you want limited government. However, once you get rid of democracy you're never sure what you'll end up with. It could be less or more government. Depends whose in power.
Kevin Drum is funny:
"That's Chief Justice John Roberts. He bought the activity/inactivity Kool-Aid completely. What's ironic, of course, is that whatever else you think of the law, the framers of the Constitution very decidedly didn't know the difference between doing something and doing nothing. At least, they didn't mention anything about this in the actual Constitution they wrote. That's a distinction invented in the 21st century, not the 18th."
How could a thinking person write something like this?
asdf has a point.
The Constitution is supposed to be the protection against the tyranny of the majority. But it isn't, when no one believes in the Constitution anymore, as asdf points out.
Now what?
The constitution was written by a tiny minority of people at a time when a tiny minority of people were allowed to vote. We were so far away from democracy (universal sufferage) that it was an entirely different form of government. "Constitutional republic" and "only educated people with property being allowed to vote" are inseperable. Universal sufferage INEVITABLY leads to authoritarianism. And universal sufferage is an inevitable result of our modern world. So authoritarianism is inevitable. Just in case you didn't get the memo.
You're basically correct except that in your frustration you label it "fascism". The danger is you might forget (or have already forgotten) that's just name-calling and not fascism per-se. Fascism is more to do with the united spirit of the people, the flesh of the individual being part of the flesh of "the nation", the latter (the nation) being a type of spirit that exists and which moves the individuals who, in themselves, are of no importance.
Here, we merely have a slightly totalitarian regime which makes demands on individuals. Totalitarian not because it makes demands – since all regimes do so – but because it isn't too concerned with the rule of law. So relax. You're living in a slightly totalitarian country, not a fascist one.
If you've ever read Hayek, I think you will find that SC is going by the definition of Fascism used in The Road to Serfdom.
Your definition of Fascism is specific to a brand of Fascism which was espouse in the 20th Century. By your definition, it would be impossible for any nation of Anglo or European origin to be Fascist at this point, because all of our nations are now ethnically diffuse.
And, it's only "slightly" Fascist until the death panels kick in. Then what do you call it?
Another point, considering where we've come from, and where we are headed, I think Americans have the right to be truly outraged at this ruling.
The government just took over 1/5 of the economy. The people did not want this to happen. Even recent polls show only 39% support for Obamacare.
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