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But of late, says Hostworks sales manager Klaus Bartosch, the Broadcast Australia-owned company has invested in new tools with a view to becoming an outsourced hosting provider for the mission-critical applications of large organisations.
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Hostworks is spending $5 million over the next two years on what it calls the Future Service Delivery project, which aims to "provide Hostworks with the underlying platform, processes, tools and capabilities to deliver a new level of quality services."
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Okay, before we say anything else, can we please get this out of the way: Ew. Eww. EWWW. We just wrote about how David Boreanaz was being sued for sexual harassment by a "mystery actress," after his whole adulterous turn with Rachel Uchitel. Turns out the actress is Kristina Hagen, and she revealed herself alongside Allred at – where else – a press conference. All Hagen said was, "I'm very happy that Ms. Allred has agreed to represent me in this matter. I have confidence in the justice system and that is why I have decided to file this case."
The suit claims that the Bones actor sent "sexually inappropriate text messages" to Hagan, who happened to be an extra on the show. It goes on to say that David was driving with Kristina in the car (umm why, exactly?) in September last year and told her he was "the boss" and that he could "make things happen for her." He then parked his car and "attempted to kiss her and touch her breasts but she pushed him away." Boreanaz then allegedly, "unzipped his pants, pulled out his penis and began stroking it until he ejaculated."
Hagan also claims that he grabbed, kissed and fondled her and then "masturbated in front of her." The very detailed suit reveals that David told Hagan that, "he and his wife had argued because there were reports of his infidelity" coming out — and that he and Hagan would have to "cool it." Right. So, we're confused? They were involved? How's this sexual harassment, then?
Apparently Boreanaz kept telling Hagan that he would find her an acting job. He didn't, and now we have a suit. She's not focusing her angry attention just on him though, she's suing Fox and the Bones production houses as well for not taking care of the situation with the actor. He's denying everything, as expected. His rep has spoken up stating, "The allegations concerning any alleged inappropriate conduct by David Boreanaz are totally fabricated and absurd. There is no validity to this lawsuit." Sigh. Stay tuned.
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Whilst this hasn't been too much of a problem for the majority of the Architects that Mark and I work with – after all, we're fairly self-sufficient when it comes to supporting our environments and are infinitely capable of collectively dreaming up ever more creative workarounds for the things that don't work – it isn't a solution that's manageable at scale.
Then, along came Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 and with them came the introduction of a great new feature – Native Boot from VHD. With a little configuration, this has enabled us to leave the existing Windows XP corporate build in place, and to deploy a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7 (Enterprise or Ultimate) or 64-bit Windows Server 2008 R2 build side-by-side, crucially without having to make any changes to the Windows XP build or the existing disk partitioning scheme.
To achieve this, we created a new Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 bootloader, and "chained" the original Windows XP bootloader from it. At boot, this allows us to select a Native Boot from VHD into, for example, a 64-bit Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise build, or to select the chained bootloader which allows us to boot into the corporate Windows XP build.
Of course, you'll need to create your VHD-contained Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 OS build and put it to your local disk, and this post doesn't go into that detail, but once you have done that, the steps below will allow you to create a new bootloader and chain your existing Windows XP corporate build from it.
To begin, boot your computer using your Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 installation media.
When you reach the Install Windows screen, select your preferences in the Language to install, Time and currency format, and Keyboard or input method boxes, and then click Next.Â
Do not click Install now. Instead, click Repair your computer.
The search for supported operating systems will fail, and the System Recovery Options dialog box appears with the Restore your computer using a system image that you created earlier option selected. Click Next.
The Re-image your computer tool will fail to find a system image and will display a dialog informing you of this. Click Cancel on the dialog, and then Cancel again on the main tool window.
The System Recovery Options menu appears. Click Command Prompt.
To write the new Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2 bootloader:
To create a BCD store from the Windows VHD:
Set up the VHD native boot:
BCDEDIT /SET {default} DEVICE VHD=[LOCATE]\BOOTVHDS\W2K8R2ENTX64.VHD
BCDEDIT /SET {default} OSDEVICE VHD=[LOCATE]\BOOTVHDS\W2K8R2ENTX64.VHD
BCDEDIT /SET {default} DETECTHAL ON
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BCDEDIT /CREATE {ntldr} /d "Chain Legacy Bootloader"
BCDEDIT /SET {ntldr} DEVICE PARTITION=C:
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The immigration bill recently passed in the Senate assigns nearly $50 billion to increase border security – a border "surge." This unprecedented deployment of resources includes 20,000 additional Border Patrol agents; new technology such as drones, sensors and cameras; and hundreds of miles of wall along the border. Proponents reason that the border surge will bring order to the region and stem the flow of undocumented immigrants into the United States. However, this expenditure could lead to multiple unintended consequences that should give pause to anyone considering it.[Read More]
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"My family has been using this brisket marinade recipe for about 15 years now. So easy, and absolutely to die for! Marinade is good for oven-baked or grilled brisket. You can find liquid smoke at the grocery store, near the bottled marinades."
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1/2 cup
red wine
1/4 cup
Worcestershire sauce
1/4 cup
liquid smoke flavoring
2 teaspoons
onion salt
2 teaspoons
garlic salt
4 teaspoons
4 teaspoons
celery flakes
We liked this, but I altered it a little because when I smelled it the liquid smoke was a little overwhelming. I added some soy sauce and about a tablespoon of molasses to 'cut' the liquid smoke a little. I marinated the brisket over night then smoked it all day, very tender and full of flavor.
My family loves this marinade. I cooked my brisket in the crockpot for about 7 hours, it was wonderful.
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For a oven brisket this ones great almost good as texas smoked brisket.I use a trimed brisket it has a little fat on one side it goes fat side up when I bake mine. enjoy
This recipe is very good. If you try it on smaller pieces of steak, which would probably be good, also, you might want to halve the pepper. I tried it on a 3 or 4 pound brisket by marinading it for about 3 hours and then grilling it. Very good to excellent taste!
This was very good!!! Loved the favor...the DH smoked it all day.
The only change that I made was eliminating the onion salt, and substituted one sliced whole white onion, slice thin. Don't skip on the Red Wine, a Burgundy or a Cabernet works.
I had to cut the pepper a little bit too, but I love the liquid smoke flavoring. It doesn't really say how long to marinate or how long to cook the Brisket. So I was a little confused. I only had time to marinate about 1 hour. I browned the brisket on both sides in a skillet, poured on marinade and covered the rest of the way with beef broth. Cooked on stovetop over low heat for 2 1/2 to 3 hours. Wonderful!
I left out the red wine and used 1 bottle of liquid smoke, celery-garlic & onion salt and let it marinade over night. In morning I added 2 TB. Worcestershire sauce and slow cooked it in crock pot all day (7+ hrs). Delicious and tender.
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
Brisket Marinade
Serving Size: 1/6 of a recipe
Servings Per Recipe: 6
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 115
Calories from Fat: 82
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Okay people, clue in. Without Phil, we're mid-Pac 10 and certainly not top 20. Eugene is NOT a destination without Nike. Just like USC isn't without whores, sun and money. This expansion only allows us to further compete for the top recruits that Ohio St. and others get first pick on. No more Masoli's...please.
Also, I've had it with Richard Lariviere. Leave now. The lessons learned from sport are just as valuable as some boring study that impacts no one. BTW, without Phil's valuable contributions for sports and academics, Oregon would continue to be nothing more than a Tier 2 public college (and I'm a grad).
Oh, I remember Mr. Brooks very well. As a youngster with my father, we'd sit in miserable weather and watch Washington, USC, UCLA and others whallop us. Brooks' did the best he could with the talent he'd recruit. Three plays up the middle and punt. That was Oregon football in the 80's and early 90's.
In retrospect, he lead the way for Belotti and now Kelly to put together this now powerhouse program (recruiting 4-stars in Florida?. If you had said that 25 years ago, I'd say you were on crack).
The rise of Nike and Phil's wealth and local interest have all contributed to the perfect storm we are witnessing.
I never thought I'd say it, but thanks Rich. You were the foundation.
This tree is the second most Homo (Beavers of course..ironically) of all the mascots. Remember what we did to the Houston Cougar. BE very scared.
Look nerds. Expect a very humiliating beatdown by #4, soon to be #3 after we pass "nothing" Boise (who?). Cruel? Wait till we put a hurting on DumbLuck. This won't be close. Harbaugh will get his A** handed to him. Can't wait. I will relish all the punishment we put on a Nothing athletic school (okay..you win academically). Another Bay Area school (see Cal last year) was supposed to beat us. Tedford was supposedly the better Coach. Ha.
49-21. Go Ducks Forever.
This Boise loser is stuck in the past. Cupcakes. Awful teams.
Stanford would carve you up.
Smurfs will be irrelevant after this year. Thank God.
Okay Smurfs, I've had it. Apparently that world-class education in potato farming you get doesn't get you anywhere in IQ.
1. Past wins doesn't factor into a NEW season.
2. You sound like burnout hippies from the 60's reminiscing about the Dead.
3. Your program's success is FLEETING (see Northwestern in 1994).
4. You don't have facilities, Phil or a great coach for sustainable growth. Simple socio-economics.
5. I can't wait for February. We'll have more 4-5 stars than you'll ever have (can you get a 4-star?).
We're now getting them from Florida. Impossible for you.
Enjoy the ride down.
Prediction. Matthew Knight Arena will be as loud as Autzen in three years with a top-20 team. An objective Duck here with enough history and knowledge to predict our University will be the envy (already is becoming) of all athletic programs. The old guard is dying. Thus rises the big O.
Next up...Autzen to 80k seats. No stopping this juggernaut.
BTW...does Boise St. have basketball? Do they know what one looks like?
I'm a dreamer. I'll settle for 75k seats.
Good thought. That came to mind as well.
Regardless, 80k all the way. Bring the pain.
1. At the top of the polls, the expectations are higher. In previous years, this is a gritty, well-deserved win. Now, it's a minor disappointment.
2. We have depth. At quarterback. 2007 its not.
3. We continue to find ways to win. The current effort will earn us a loss if we don't step it up. Allow-alloti's strategy really worries me. A lot. Yeah, 2nd half effort is great. Not enough.
Last, and most important, Barner, a really-good kid, is okay and hope he comes back strong. The best news of the day.
1. At the top of the polls, the expectations are higher. In previous years, this is a gritty, well-deserved win. Now, it's a minor disappointment.
2. We have depth. At quarterback. 2007 its not.
3. We continue to find ways to win. The current effort will earn us a loss if we don't step it up. Allow-alloti's strategy really worries me. A lot. Yeah, 2nd half effort is great. Not enough.
Last, and most important, Barner, a really-good kid, is okay and hope he comes back strong. The best news of the day.
Pathetic. Why should we care? The Smurfs would be 6-6 in the PAC-10.
Please end these stories. Waste of time.
Wazzu is better than all the teams in the WAC(ed). Toledo??? San Jose St???
Div II teams at best. Keep on beating up on little girl teams to prove your manhood.
Mediocre is mediocre.
Costa is nothing but a 1st rate class act. I have no doubt if Thomas gets injured again, he'll step up big time. Just a great kid.
BTW, how great if Costa had been the one to arrest Mastoli on the second charge? Mastoli must be hating himself right now. Oregon #1; Ole Miss nowhere.
The King Hack Reporter Canzano (right behind Prince Wilner) doesn't get it. Every game this season has been a "test", like we're just waiting for the Ducks to fail.
*Tennessee. Oh no, SEC and on the road. What will we do. Thomas is untested. Result: Blowout.
*Az St. First Pac-10 on the road. Inexpericed Ducks questionable. Result: Clean, decisive win.
*Stanford. Uh oh, Harbaugh beat us last year. National TV. Result: Slow start..then Beatdown.
This team is disciplined, smart, uber conditioned and DEEP. I've been a Duck fan for 35 years. This year is different. The Mojo is different. Kelly is the natural heir to Brooks and Beloitti by taking the program to elite status. Nike has put so much behind this program the investment is finally paying off.
USC is good, not great. It will be close at halftime. The bye week will actually work against the Trojans. By the second half, we'll pull away. Significant injuries the only potential factor here.
Please fire this hack and hire someone with a fresh perspective. The new Duck Regime is here to stay and will be a national power for years to come.
Hey MethHead,
The Broncos are meaningless. Once and for all, Kiss off!!! Keep beating high school teams and delusional dreams of relevance. Moore is a hack quarterback and your Smurfs would get barbeuqed by our defense.
BTW, at the game, loved all the hate towards the guy (read: D***che) who wore his Boise St. shirt. The entire Oregon section rode him like a Donkey.
Observations from the game.
1. Silent USC fans = bliss. That's what happens when arrogance turns into a beatdown.
2. Met a nice kid from Bakersfield. Asked if he went to UO. Said no, but Ducks turned into his favorite team five years ago. Loves them. Small sample size, but I'm guessing non-UO grad fans are gaining ground.
3. Ducks fans were loud and obnoxious, as we should be. In the Coliseum. Bliss.
4. The Boise St. t-shirt guy. Why? Are you mentally challenged?
Last, look Beaver fans, I'm a successful Oregon grad and root for you guys when you're not playing us. Get over the hate and realize our success as a state looms well for both teams.
Go Ducks Forever.
Here's my prediction on the Way to Glendale:
Oregon 69-3 at the half. Chip uses the 2nd half as practice for the 2nd and 3rd string.
Costa hangs another 28 pts. Closest we will get to 100 points in the season.
Lamichael goes for 400 rushing yards.
Hey Husky fans, how much lower can your program get? Do you realize how irrelevant your program is? USC is now our prey...you're simply an afterthought.
Dear Chip,
Please, please, please. I pray to Jesus. Hang a three-digit embarrasement on the Fuskies.
Beat them so hard they beg to be removed from the PAC-10 and play with the Div III teams with Boise St.
Did I say please?
Guess I'm an Old Duck. But this Duck never forgets. Late hits on Miller. Obnoxious Seattle fans and their Tequilla song in a silent Autzen. Weasal and his evil antics. The list goes on. Karama's a B*tch Puppies.
However, before you become a Duck fan, you should be required to understand the significance of Wheaton and "The Pick". This play started in motion everything you experience and see today. Beating the Huskies that day was life changing. Now, eh, who cares about UDuh. Another Div II team we toy with. I consider USC our only legit Pac-10 foe at this point.
Chip, please hang a 100 on this miserable high school. :)
Has anyone considered that this is a bogus post? Fusky fans have nothing better to do.
Now, if you're legit, of course children are safe at Autzen. What a dopey question. I think your concerns are misplaced. Not sure if I'd want your young Husky fan to witness the violence on the field when UDuh gets pasted for 100+ points. Now that's scary for a youngster.


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My child has what has been diagnosed as a port wine stain birth mark. Laser treatment has been recommended to us though there is no specific timeline for it and it's something we will likely wait to do. I was wondering if there is anyone who has any experience with laser removal of a birth mark either themselves or on their child. I am really just looking to hear what your experience has been like in terms of effectiveness, how many treatments it required, if it's your child what age were they when they received it and if you didn't have it removed whether it changed over time either for the better or worse. Thanks!
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I have what is called a "strawberry mark" on my back, just below my shoulder blade. Apparently when I was born, it was very bright red and quite large (since birthmarks stay the same size, compared to my infant-sized back vs. now... it was 1/2 my back). My mother was of course very concerned, but not sure there was laser treatment 38+ years ago. Today, it is barely noticeable, hardly red at all, and about the size of a small orange. And, of course, its on my back, so it doesn't bother me at all, and I wouldn't do anything about it. (I'm not sure port wine marks fade however... worth checking)
I will say... when I was younger, and it was still noticeable (I can't really say when it stopped being so red)... I was very subconcious of it when in bathing suits or anything with a low back. I got married at 34, and fell in love with a wedding dress that was backless. It did take some MAJOR convincing from my mom and friends that they could not see my birthmark. Even though I knew you couldn't tell, I knew it was there. I do recall thinking about it several times during my wedding day, but am so glad I got the dress in the end.
I think a big question is where is the birthmark? On the face... definitely a bigger concern than on the foot or back. And I know this may be an odd question, but a girl or a boy? Girls may be much more self conscious as they grow up...
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Thanks for your thoughts. Definitely not an odd question. It's a girl. It's on her arm, basically the entire arm and the underside of her hand. We are fortunate that it is only a cosmetic issue but obviously we have thought about her being self conscious about it when she gets older. And that's really our main concern because it won't affect the use of her arm. We are told that it in terms of effectiveness it doesn't matter when we remove it but obviously the younger she is the smaller it will be so it will require less treatments. The treatments also may not entirely work but based on research I've done it seems the results are pretty good. We were also told that it will grow with her and won't stay the same size. The doctor we visited basically said some remove it when they are babies and some when they get older. When they get older friends will notice it was there and gone which in my mind doesn't seem like a big deal but maybe it will be for a child or teenager. Right now she would have to be put to sleep to have it removed which is why we are waiting. Especially given it will require multiple treatments. It may or may not fade though it appears to have already since her birth.
I really appreciate your thoughts. It helps to hear from someone with a something similar.
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posted at 7/11/2013 2:03 PM EDT
I have a port wine stain, it did grow with me. :( Thankfully it is completely hidden and you really have to know me to know I have it. ;) Though the only time you could possibly see it is when I'm in a bathing suit, I am still self conscous of it.
If it were me, I'd have it treated/removed the sooner the better. DS had a oddly placed birthmark, part port wine stain, part something else, on the back of his head and everyone commented on it when he was a baby. Some pretty rude comments. If it wasn't going to be covered with hair I would have done something about it as soon as I could. Now you can't realy see it on him, if you really paid attention you'd see a patch of his hair that is a little different color and texture, but it blends.
though I agree, when having to sedate a child, it's a harder decision to have some procedures done. DS's birthmark required a MRI of his brain, and we had to sedate him to have it done-definitely a tough decision when they are so little!
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posted at 7/11/2013 3:41 PM EDT
KAM, did yours or your son's change (in terms of lightness or darkness) over time or did it always generally look the same?
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posted at 7/15/2013 3:21 PM EDT
His is covered by his hair-which is a slightly different texture and color. It has remained the same size in scale to his head-when I go looking for it. He's 4.5 now and has no idea he has it. His dermatologist joked that he'll only know about it when he A) goes bald or B) shaves his head as a prank in highschool/college. The joy of having a birthmark under your hair!


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Aug. 11, 2010
WACO, TEXAS -- University of Georgia Head Coach Mark Richt has been named to the Board of Trustees of the American Football Coaches Association. He was selected to fill the Football Bowl Subdivision District 4 position on the Board. District 4 is made up of Southeastern Conference (SEC) schools. Richt joins a group of distinguished head coaches who guide the organization. The Board formulates policy and provides direction for the AFCA.
"Grant Teaff asked if I would be interested in serving on the AFCA Board of Trustees, and I told him that I would be honored to serve our association," Richt said. "This is a great opportunity to serve the SEC and football coaches from around the country."
Other members of the AFCA Board of Trustees include 2010 AFCA President Larry Kehres of Mount Union College; first vice-president Rob Ash of Montana State University; second vice-president Tim Murphy of Harvard University and third vice-president Rich Rodriguez of the University of Michigan.
Also serving on the Board in 2010: Tommy Tuberville, Texas Tech University; Mike Welch, Ithaca College; Jim Tressel, Ohio State University; Mack Brown, University of Texas; Todd Berry, University of Louisiana-Monroe; Lee Owens, Ashland University; Jim Grobe, Wake Forest University; Bill Cronin, Georgetown College (Ky.); Lou Tepper, Indiana University (Pa.); Frank Solich, Ohio University; Randy Edsall, University of Connecticut; Turner Gill, University of Kansas; Mike Riley, Oregon State University; Gary Patterson, TCU; Pat Hill, Fresno State University; David Bailiff, Rice University; and Bobby Kennedy, University of Texas, ex officio member and chairman of the Assistant Coaches Committee.
"Coach Richt will be a great addition to our Board of Trustees," AFCA Executive Director Grant Teaff said. "I have known Mark for many years and watched his progress from a position coach, to a coordinator, to an outstanding head coach at the University of Georgia. Mark will do a great job representing football and football coaches in the SEC and across the nation."
Richt has an overall record of 90-27 (.769) in his nine seasons (2001-present) as the head coach at Georgia. He is one of only seven coaches in FBS history to reach 90 wins in his first nine seasons as a head coach. Richt guided the Bulldogs to two SEC titles in 2002 and 2005, making him one of only six coaches in SEC history to win two conference titles in his first five years in the conference. He was named SEC Coach of the Year in 2002 and 2005, and earned AFCA Regional Coach of the Year honors in 2002.
Georgia is 7-2 in bowl games under Richt. In 2009, the Bulldogs went 8-5 and beat Texas A&M in the Independance Bowl. In 2007, Richt led Georgia to an 11-2 overall mark, a victory in the Allstate Sugar Bowl and a final ranking of No. 3 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll. Georgia matched that No. 3 final ranking in 2002 when Richt led the Bulldogs to a 13-1 overall record and a win over Florida State in the Nokia Sugar Bowl.
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Those pushing for a wider bike and pedestrian lane on the new S.C. Highway 41 bridge apparently will get their way.
S.C. Department of Transportation Secretary Robert St. Onge recently emailed several Lowcountry officials and said the state can rework the design to remove two proposed 5.5 foot wide sidewalks in exchange for a 10-foot wide bike and pedestrian lane.
"It's great news," said Tom Bradford, executive director of Charleston Moves, which called a meeting 10 days ago to push for the redesign.
Still, it remains unclear if those working to lower the bridge's height will be successful. The state plans to build the replacement bridge 55 feet over the Wando River, but many local officials think 35 feet is a more appropriate height.
St. Onge said he still plans to have transportation commissioners consider approving a contract to rebuild the bridge when the commission meets on Feb. 20.
"We are anxious to see this bridge replaced to help serve as both a transportation and commercial benefit to the region," he said.
Those pushing for a lower height are trying to get South Carolina's congressmen and Senators involved in pressing the U.S. Coast Guard as to why it feels the bridge must be 55 feet.
U.S. Sen. Tim Scott recently wrote a Mount Pleasant resident, saying his staff is conducting meetings with the Coast Guard to see if a 55-foot-tall bridge really is the most cost effective and whether there are other alternatives. "Rest assured, I plan to remain engaged on this issue," his email said.
First District Highway Commissioner Jim Rozier has said he would rather see a 35-foot-tall bridge, but he doesn't want the height issue to delay work on replacing it. The state's proposed contract would replace the bridge at a cost of only $30.4 million - almost $10 million less than what some had anticipated the price would be. Reopening the permit process or going back out for new bids could drive the state's cost up by a lot.
Mount Pleasant Mayor Linda Page wrote St. Onge Friday to urge him to push for a 35-foot height "until denied in writing by the United States Coast Guard."
She also asked for fully protected, multi-use paths on both sides of the highway and to grant the town any unused right of way so it can develop a passive park with the land.
St. Onge's reply -sent to Page, Charleston Mayor Joe Riley, U.S. Rep. Mark Sanford, House Speaker Bobby Harrell and state Sen. Larry Grooms -addresses only the bike and pedestrian access.
"We believe we can provide the flexibility needed in the future to accommodate bike-pedestrian needs when the four lane re-stripping occurs (by removing the proposed raised 5.5 foot sidewalk from both sides on the bridge while incorporating a wider and safer lane in coordination with plans for either side of the bridge)," he wrote.
Bradford said, "There still are a couple of fine points - engineering points to be resolved - but we will resolve them," he said. "We'll count this as a victory."
Reach Robert Behre at 937-5771.
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A few notable notes from around the Orioles' division on Monday:
*Yankees: Look who showed up at Yankee Stadium for Opening Day — Alex Rodriguez. The erstwhile third baseman wouldn't really talk about being linked to the Miami-area Biogenesis clinic, focus of a Major League Baseball investigation into possible performance-enhancing-drug use by a long list of big-leaguers. A-Rod did speak about his rehab from hip surgery.
"We're in the very beginning — I would say Stage 1 — in this recovery," Rodriguez said, as reported by mlb.com. "The recovery is going very well. I've been devoting 100 percent of my time and my focus into getting back and playing and helping this team win a title."
Rodriguez likely won't be back until after the All-Star break, but he said finding out about his injury actually made him feel better about his struggles last season.
"When I found out after the season was over about the big tear in my left hip, it was a bit of a relief to realize and understand what happened at the end of last year," he said. "I was able to go in and fix it and rehab. I think once I'm mended and back to being 100 percent, there's no reason why I can't play at a very high level."
*Red Sox: Jackie Bradley Jr., the much-touted Boston rookie, made his major-league debut at Yankee Stadium. And unlike you might expect for a 22-year-old playing his first game in such a charged atmosphere, Bradley showed surprising patience at the plate, drawing three walks.
"I was definitely anxious. You want to swing the bat," Bradley said, as reported by mlb.com. "But I knew I needed to stick with my approach and make him [Yankees starter CC Sabathia] work a little bit and see some pitches. I was just trying to see a pitch up and saying to myself, 'Don't swing at the put-away pitch.'"
Bradley also made a fine catch on Robinson Cano's line drive to left field. Though Bradley didn't get his first big-league hit, he did pick up his first RBI and first run. And he played in his first major-league victory, an 8-2 win.
*Blue Jays: In advance of Tuesday's Blue Jays opener against the Indians, Toronto starter R.A. Dickey checked out his new home surroundings at Rogers Centre.
"To get to stand on the mound and kind of get comfortable with my surroundings, it was a real treat to get to do," he told mlb.com. "You don't often get the chance to pitch off the game mound before you get on it for real, but that was necessary for me just to get comfortable with the climate with the roof closed. It was special, and it left me anticipating a very fun night."
Will it be dome sweet dome for the knuckleballer?
"I usually have fairly good numbers inside of domes," he said Monday. "Here in particular, going off yesterday's knuckleball on a game mound and the conditions there were here yesterday, I was very encouraged. I'm not going to make any predictions, but it felt good coming out of my hand and that's a good sign."
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text: While refereeing a girls' U14 match last weekend, I called a penalty under the following circumstances. An attacking player takes a pass just outside the penalty area. As she enters the penalty area, a defender intercepts her. The attacking player shields that ball with her body and turns her back to the goal. The defender applies a charge (shoulder to back of shoulder area) that causes the attacker to temporarily lose control of the ball. Attacker recovers the ball, still in the penalty area and defender commits the same charge. Again, the attacker loses the ball temporarily but the defender makes no effort to win the ball. The defender now commits the same charge for the third time and I blow the whistle and point to the spot. I was originally trained that the standard for an fair charge was "equal strength on the ball". If a player "knocked an opponent off the ball" without directly taking control of the ball they had not succeeded in making the charge "within playing distance." A charge that put an opponent on the ground was a foul charge. I was certain of what I saw and felt confident that I had made the right call but really didn't want to blow for the penalty. One of my ARs was a fellow referee who I respect very much. I asked his opinion and he said he considered it a soft penalty. I spoke with a friend who played lower level professional ball in Ireland about it. He said he was always told shoulder to shoulder contact was legal regardless of an attempt to play the ball so long as the ball was in playing distance and even if the contact resulted in the opponent going to ground there was no foul committed. I was now feeling much less confident about my understanding of what constitutes a legal and an illegal charge. The wording of Law 12 regarding an illegal charge is rather vague to I went to USSF Advice to Referees (my bold). 12.5 Charging The act of charging an opponent can be performed without it being called as a foul. Although the fair charge is commonly defined as "shoulder to shoulder," this is not a requirement and, at certain age levels where heights may vary greatly, may not even be possible. Futhermore, under many circumstances, a charge may result in the player against whom it is placed falling to the ground (as consequence, as before, of players differing in weight or strength). The Law does require that the charge be directed toward the area of the shoulder and not toward the center of the opponent's back (the spinal area): in such a case, the refereee should recognize that such a charge is at minimum reckless and potentially even violent (See also Advice 12.14.) It is not a violation of Law 12 for two players to charge the same opponent simultaneously, provided that each charge considered individually is conducted fairly and legally. After reading the prior portion of the ATR, I'm questioning my line of thinking. How do the referees on this board determine a charge is illegal? Only if it is directed to an area outside the shoulder area? Is there such a thing as careless, reckless or violent shoulder to shoulder area contact if it is legal to knock a player to the ground with a charge?


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Peak of the Oppression on Voters and Opposition Parties
Shorena Kakabadze, Kutaisi
"The government does its best to intervene in the activities of the opposition parties during the municipal elections. They do it several days before the elections too. Representatives of the ruling party openly or secretly bribe voters, threaten people and try to win the elections with the support of similar illegal methods," said the representatives of the Kutaisi office of the Alliance for Georgia.
The other representatives of other opposition parties also complain about the dishonest activities of the government. According to them, it is urgently important for the population (and generally for the democratic development of the country) how the municipal elections will be held. Opposition parties can provide concrete facts to reinforce their accusations; they call upon the both local NGOs and international organizations to be more attentive to these violations and react on them.
"The officials, who pretend to be on holiday, are actively involved in the pre-election campaign of the ruling party. They support the candidates of the National Movement with the funds from the local budgets," said the representatives of the Kutaisi office of the Republic Party.
"The problem is that we cannot argue with the government about set of violations under the law. Any kind of transfer is prohibited during the election period. However, everything was planned and implemented so "well" that the funds are spent on the various activities without any problems. The officials, who are on holidays, visit families and give various promises to the voters. They resolve some problem with the budget funds immediately," said the single mandate candidate of the Alliance for Georgia Vladimer Nakashidze.
Former member of the Kutaisi municipal board recalled a session of the board when single mandate candidates openly divided the budget funds. They divided money according to their needs during the pre-election campaign to attract the voters in their districts.
Representatives of the Kutaisi office of the Republic Party stated that alongside similar dishonest action, the families of prisoners are oppressed. The commission member in the polling station # 35 in Kutaisi (from the Republic Party) was compelled to resign.
Opposition party members clarify that son of Jemal Dzotsenidze is a prisoner and he serves his term in Rustavi prison. The governmental officials promised the father to take his son to Kutaisi prison # 2 if he leaves the election commission.
"The most astonishing fact is that it happened when this person is impossible to be replaced by another member in accordance to the election code," said the members of the Alliance for Georgia.
In parallel to these accusations and pre-election situation, the National Movement takes advantage of the remaining time. Next to the election banners and posters the roads are being rapidly repaired in Kutaisi; various institutions are being opened and the streets are being lit.
According to the election banners and posters, the party which is closest to the population and promises better future to them, is the ruling party. They actively declare that there is no time to be lost because more shall be done.
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A while back on iPad Live, we got to talking about how we often judge and app by its icon -- if the icon is bad, or even just not great, we don't buy it (ahem, Chad!). There are just so many apps in the store it becomes an easy way to eliminate some. If the developer doesn't care enough to make a fabulous icon -- the thing everyone sees when buying and launching their app -- what else don't they care about?
Are we being snobs? Superficial much? Missing out on great apps just because the developer was better at coding than they were design? Or do great icons sometimes hide crappy apps?
How important is the icon to you when deciding whether or not to spend your money on an app? Do you judge an app by its icon? Be truthful now!
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TiPb Asks: Do you judge an app by its icon?
I do exactly the same thing! I'm am obsessed with aesthetics.
I delete every app that is not retina display and I wouldnt dare by or download an app with a crappy icon. All the best iphone apps have great icons. Thank God Bank of America updated their app today I was going to switch banks!
I don't judge an app by it's icon, I judge an app by it's interface and GUI. You can change the app icons, on non-jailbroken devices, including the iPad 2, so this is of no concern to me. I have retinized all of my apps.
Say I've forgotten how. Can you remind me?
Not to sound cynical (okay, maybe a bit), but are you sure that you ever knew how to?
I made a video a while back, and sent it to the TiPb writers, but they've never posted it, sadly.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zG7I7F0ylc
Thanks! Ok, you got me. :-)
Perhaps you can do a reshoot that's a bit quicker, and a whole lot less shaky; and they will give it another look. It wouldn't hurt to type up complete directions, too.
Same here!
I am guilt as well, especially as far as retina is concerned. I 100% agree, if you're gonna make a quality app, make a quality icon for Christ sakes.
Definitely. In the same way I judge the kitchen of restaurant by how clean the washrooms are, I believe the time put into choosing a relevant icon to represent an app is indicative of the time and spent on the app itself. Storefronts have their best fruits and vegetables on display, The icon of an app is the digital equivalent. So just as I would question buying produce from a store displaying unappealing fruits and veggies, I would do the same of an app with a similar icon.
Absolutely yes I will not buy an app if it has an icon I don't like.
Not so much on the retina issue, more so the overall icon's design. Being a graphic designer who also happens to like Apple's aesthetically simple interface could be where the problem lies though.
if the icon has a terd on it I wont buy it lol
At the very least must be retina display ready... It's almost been a year and not all app icons are there.
I have had this question myself, and downloaded and even purchased some apps with less than impressive icons. The icon is almost always a precursor to the experience within the app. Occasionally, an attractive icon IS hiding a less than stellar app...ahem, Color..? Excellence throughout is the only way to reach those 4 & 5 star ratings.
I guess I look at it like a handshake. Is a bad handshake enough to judge someone by? Of course not, but it is your first impression so it matters.
Absolutely - including my own. I'm almost never satisfied. If an apps icon looks like it was made in windows paint or has jagged edges or looks like a photo of the app screenshot centered in the middle I won't even look at the description
Guilty as well, I choose by the icon, then look at the screenshots. I've never seen a good app with a bad icon, but there are some bad apps with good icons.
My Radar is a great app. Had a pretty standard low-res icon before, and recently updated it to one that while sharp, is pretty ugly in my opinion. Still a good app though. Exception that proves the rule, I guess.
Agreed. Icon-screenshots-description-reviews. That's my buying process. If the icon doesn't catch my eye I keep it moving.
All the way
I saw a comment from someone above who only buys apps with good icons, then says he has seen plenty of bad apps with good icons, but no good apps with bad icons.
Surely its obvious why- by his own criteria he would never have downloaded the good app with the bad icon, so he doesn't know what he's missing :)
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I ultimately judge an app by the quality of its content rather than the appearance of its icon, but I do agree that there is something to be said for having a quality icon that befits a quality app (if it truly is a quality app!). I agree with the above posts, that a quality icon shows attention to detail on the developer's part, and that those subtle but important details should all add up to a quality user experience within that app.
Could care less about the icon..
So, you care somewhat then? If instead you mean to say that you don't care at all it's "Couldn't care less." Sorry to come off as a douche, but the mix-up of this phrase bugs the hell out of me.
Could care less about your comment :P
Might not be the best indication of the quality and usefulness of an app but I am guilty of letting the icon appeal influence me.
Only for performance, but if the icon looks great. It makes me feel like the developers really care about the experience of the app.
A crap icon can be a bit off putting, but its the app itself that gets the 'live or die' judgement on my phone
Yes, I do judge based on icon. There are far to many apps with blue icons. My biggest turn off are icons not updated for retina display. Weatherbug Elite just made it back to my home screen this week after taking almost a year to update the icon. Other notable ones; Yahoo, Washington Post, and Huff Po all lack retina icons as well. I'm OCD about it.
In fact those 3 apps I mentioned are not updated for retina display inside the app either. Drives me nuts!
Agreed too many blue icons.
I do judge apps by icons I guess. However, j also take into account the fact that newbie programmers may not have skilled designers to call upon. Once a paid app is established, a good icon is a must.
"Missing out on great apps just because the developer was better at coding than they were design?"
These aren't command line utilities. Design is a critical part of development for GUI touch-based apps. It's not snobbery and icons are not just eye candy. Their appearance affects usability.
Icon is important to me, but even more so might even be the name of the app... It's those first impressions that separate the thousands of similar apps in the App Store. Have a good icon and good name, and I'll check out that app ahead of all others.
Yes! The name of the App and the Icon are absolutely important.
I mean the iPhone is only personalized through the icons on the phone. At least if you do not Jailbreak. So it does matter a lot if you have some nice icons or not.
Hate that premium apps like "Reckless Racing" set up names too big to display on the iPhone 4 at all. "Reckl...acing" WHY???
"Labyrinth 2 Lite" by Illusion Labs AB is another one ("Labyrin...Lite"). It says LITE right on the icon! I guess they do that to make the OCD folks more likely to buy the $5 full app.
I have to say, the icon is the first impression. As it is said, "You only get once chance to make a first impression!" If the icon is crappy, I am less likely to look at the description. I then look at the reviews and screen captures.
Yes. In my eyes, the preview is the first impression the user has of the game's graphics, so I am definitely more interested in games that have better icon graphics. Now that isn't to say that some games with crappy icons/graphics can't be fun, but generally speaking I tend to be more interested in games with better icon graphics.
I ABSOLUTELY judge an app by it's icon. It's the brown M&M's in the dressing room of my iPhone as far as I'm concerned...
If they can't spend the time (& money) to design an original and relevant icon... hold the show, line-check the entire setup and you are likely going to find some glaring red-flags.
yes but it's not the final judgment. If an icon catches my eye i'm more app to click on it. simple as that. but if it's an app form something i've no interest in or i do have interest but the app doesn't meet my expectations well i won't keep using it.
Oh yeah, the app icon is crucial. I'll completely bypass a fully functional app if the icon/app design sucks.
Yeah. GoodReader is suppose to be the best app for PDF's but I refuse to use it because the icon is horrible to me.
Absolutely. I've found that, in general, if the icon is bad or not updated for Retina Display, the app is usually lackluster. Seen very few apps with bad icons that work really well.
Lately when I see an icon changed on one of my apps it's goes from nice to ugly.
if its a really awesome app i may look past the icon but i am guilty, i cant stand poor icons. To me if the icon is awesome usually it indicates that the developer wantwed this app top-notch from top to bottom. Sometimes it shows me they can code an app well but with a sucky icon it might also mean the UI is going to suck too.
This is a yes/no question. I hate when site like this ask a yes/no question without a POLL. You can't expect a good response when everyone has to register to reply. Use a poll where people don't have to log in and your response will be greater - users can still leave comments if they want.
plus people can see RESULTS from your question instead of being left wondering or wasting time reading every response!
Seconded. This site ask WAY to may POLL QUESTIONS with a POLL.
*too many. Geeze.
**without. Really, I swear I hit those keys!
Ok, Thirded.
I don't Judge an app solely by it's icon, but I do judge an app by it's experience and the icon is one of those parts of the experience. A good looking icon means that the person has some sense of asthetics and taste, and that they actually care to give me a good experience in their app. If the app doesn't look good, it gives me a negative feeling to work with it and I'm more likely to trash it if it gives me problems.
I have an old app that is designed to list out the stores of a local mall and give a map. It's not designed for retina displays but it works fine. I downloaded another app recently that had a retina display resolution icon but it was hideously designed. I couldn't stand looking at it, and the app wasn't all that impressive, so I was glad to get rid of it. Maybe if the icon looked better I'd have kept for a few more days and tried it out more.
Points Inside has been updated for Retina Display. Icon still isn't very flashy, though.
If browsing casually on the AppStore, then yes an icon prompts me to go to the app page and check out the screenshots. If the design is really good then I download the app
I too judge by the icon if I'm browsing through lesser known apps. But if it's a well know highly recommended app I don't care what the icon looks like as long as it functions well, GoodReader and Omnifocus are two good examples of that, both awful icons yet outstanding apps.
Speaking of the look of icons ... anyone else think that the icon for Adobe Photoshop Express looks like a roll of toilet paper?
The icon is one of the most important things for me in judging an app. It is what makes me view the actual app description (along with the rating).
Definitely yes. Very yes. Extremely yes. I will use a slightly less feature rich app if the app's aesthetics are more pleasing.
Sometimes. It's kind of like another indicator of how much effort the developer put into the app.
YES!!! If they're making a good app they better take the trouble to make a good icon!!
I do it all the time. If it has not been updates for retina, chances are I will just move along. However, most apps with a lot of polish/shine usually catch my eye. The smoother/more 'finish' an app has, the better Chavez it has of me buying it.
LOL.. Chavez? Autocorrect I assume?
Icon doesn't even fall on my radar when looking at apps. I go to the screen shots and description to decide. This seems kind of stupid to me. Who cares what the icon looks like if the app is amazing?
Yes, and 4 stars or more, retina display supported, and ad free or no download/deleted.
Can't lie, I can't stand it when an icon looks like trash or isn't retina display ready. Thats just lazy developing! Not good looking, not downloading!
I definitely judge icons. Make it stand-out, or I very well may not click 'buy.'
To be honest as long as it's not a black square I really don't care it's something to recognise the app by besides if you judge and app on it's bad icon maybe that's because the developer was worried by something that matters a bit more... OH YER THE ACTUAL FRICKING APP your flipping paying for the content and function game whatever your app does. Not for a peice of piece of art delete it if you don't like but maybe consider looking past the icon into the screenshots or description maybe but I must confess and irreverent and ugly icon does tarnish the app a bit but it would NEVER lead me to delete it! Your the lazy ones as the saying goes don't judge an app by it's icon!
Let's see.
Hot chick, yes I would date her.
Ugly chick, not so much!
I'm a hockey coach and found a great app to diagram plays called Coaches Ice Hockey Wipeboard.
Take a guess on what it says on the icon???? Coaches Ice Hockey Wipeboard.
Absolutely the worst icon on the planet, and I challenge anyone to find one that is worse. Any takers?
In the old days on palm devices, if you did not like the icon, you could replace it via a launcher app, and skins. Remember skins? Some were pretty good, or you could make your own with icon editor. You bought the app, you should be able to change the icon for your personal use.
No i check the retying
Yes. But it's combination of a few things. But certainly, some apps, bad icon, don't download.
I don't judge by icon alone, but it bugs me when a good app has a crappy icon (e.g. Photogene). I'll keep it, but it definitely gets shoved to my second or third screen.
I definitely judge an app by it's icon. For instance I have the app called "flashlight" and the damn icon is so pretty that it just begs to stay out of any stanky categorized folder.
Funny you should mention the Flashlight app. I just deleted it yesterday and it was SO HARD! The icon is so pretty, and the interface is beautiful, but I prefer the iLlumination app for immediate bright-light convenience.
Depends really,if an icon looked like a boob,it'll be popular
Yes, most of the time. Although there a few useful apps that have an icon which does not suit my taste.
Yes. it is actually not that shallow. The fact that the designer took the time to make a quality icon tells you something.
There are apps that have great icons but poor UI and functionality. There ate apps that have poor icons but great functionality for free (like Logitech mouse app). It depends what your personal taste is...
Icons are like book covers. Whether consciously or unconsciously, icons can attract or repel. When a large array of choices are presented, say in the App Store environment, it is normal to gravitate towards icons that attract. That means the "perfect" app may not even be considered because the icon doesn't invite investigation.
To me, a pretty icon is a plus, but not the deciding factor. The app's purpose matters the most (e.g. Air Video could have a one-colour box as an icon, I would still have snatched it up for ten times more than it cost), followed by the description and the screenshots. The higher the price, the more intense my reviews-reading becomes, too. The icon is the cherry on the digital cake, appreciated, but I'll certainly eat a delicious pie even with a slightly shriveled fruit topping it.
I never judge an app by it's icon but it does get my attention first. I'm JBen so I'm just going to design a better icon for my theme anyway.
Not a total deal-breaker, but it still annoys me to see a bad icon (or, heaven forbid, a NON retina icon) in this day and age.
Another aspect of this I've been running into is the "branded icon"-- I'm a fan of WORDS WITH FRIENDS, and liked their simple icon. Ever since Zynga felt the need to stamp their brand on every icon of every app they now own, I've been really turned off.
~~ No, but i do watch the comments/reports, and almost will never/won't buy if they are bad....
Georga, why don't U have a contest for the most apps on a iphone/pad. would need a short deadline, so people won't load up just for the contest.... and would require a photo of the ststs page of the unit to confirm.....
YES. because you can only look at so many app descriptions before the app store crashes on you.
ofcourse! if you can't bother to even create an icon that follows the clean and design focused aesthetic of the iPhone what does that say about the app itself?
I don't judge an app by its icon, I judge it firt by its user rating then on my own experience with it. That said, if it has an ugly icon I usually tuck it away in a folder, and I hate anything that says "free" or "lite" across the logo.
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Yanto Soegiarto
At the St. Servatius Catholic church, an ancient bell begins chiming a few minutes after a solemn call to prayer. The prayer came from a mosque near the Fisabilillah Islamic boarding school, merely 100 meters away. At a distance, a congregation gathers peacefully at the Pasundan Protestant church.
These houses of worship are located in Kampung Sawah in Bekasi, east of Jakarta, where people of different ethnic backgrounds and faiths live in peace. Local wisdom reigns and people believe religious tolerance is of the utmost importance.
The area is known as a "golden triangle" of Catholicism, Protestantism and Islam. In the village, some Betawi people, often known to be Muslims, are actually Catholic or Protestant.
Differences in faith don't matter here. Together, the people preserve the local culture. They wear the same sarongs and stick to the local customs. They share the same joys of Christmas or Idul Fitri.
Religious tolerance has existed in Indonesia for a long time, as shown in research by the Religious Affairs Ministry and the University of Indonesia's anthropology department in 1996 and 1998. In fact, religious tolerance has stronger roots here than in Europe, according to Abdul Aziz, a sociology expert trained at Monash University in Melbourne.
Kampung Sawah stands as an example. The village's first settlers were Muslim, but in the 1880s Christianity spread there from Central and East Java. In 1886, a Dutch priest baptized the first 18 Betawi people.
The Christians in Kampung Sawah would name people after their Betawi familiar names, such as Saiman, Napiun or Kadiman. However, it is also common for people to have names that combine their baptized names and their original Betawi names, such as Mathius Saiman. It is also common for people of different faiths to marry, creating relationships that preserve religious harmony.
A caretaker at the Fisabilillah Islamic boarding school, Rahmadin Afif, has cousins who became leaders of the Protestant and Catholic communities.
"When it is Idul Fitri, you cannot differentiate between who is Muslim or Christian," he said. "During the Ramadan fasting season, the Christians are not disturbed by wake-up calls because the mosque loudspeakers are not turned on loud."
He added that Christians are not disturbed when they hold mass at their churches.
"In Kampung Sawah, the religious harmony was created long ago, and it is immune to those who oppose multiculturalism or unity in diversity," he said. "For hundred of years [it has been here]. The original settlers in the area sowed seeds of religious harmony and it is here to stay forever."
People in Kampung Sawah believe the local leaders set a good example, attributing the area's religious harmony to their strong communication skills. If conflicts erupt in other areas, it is often because the leaders there were unable to communicate properly with the people.
Another example of religious harmony can be found in Depok district, which has six Catholic churches and 26 Protestant churches for its 1.6 million residents.
"Everything is communicated properly in Depok; even the slightest sign of social upheaval is handled with the utmost wisdom," said social activist Jusuf Suroso, adding that in many places in Central Java, such as Muntilan subdistrict, religious harmony also reigns.
But Jusuf acknowledged that intolerance was still a problem in many places, especially where self-interest dominates the public discourse. He blamed the problem in part on a joint ministerial decree that governs houses of worship.
"Religious freedom should not be regulated," he said. "It's absurd to require people to obtain permits so they can set up houses of worship.
"I'm convinced that the cathedral next to the Istiqlal Mosque in Jakarta doesn't have a permit. It's crazy to require one.
"Besides, the Supreme Court has annulled any ruling that require permits for the establishment of churches."
Yanto Soegiarto is the managing editor of Globe Asia, a sister publication of the Jakarta Globe.


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Originally posted by graill
That is exactly what I am saying! The OP needs to learn to prioritize. There are more important things a soldier can do with his spare time than playing games, all of them include ensuring he doesn't or his subordinates don't die the next time they go on patrol.
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Hmm long gone are the days of being hanged for traitorous opinions but hey thats what comes with democracey.
Oh my gentle Jesus.... Why.... I have nothing against you boys over there getting spare time to do what you want, i was just explaining the issues blizzard would have with it. Now then. How many posters here have actually served in military. I am talking real military, not boyscout reserves so they pay for your post secondary. I know I have. Corporal James Mahoney, Canadian armed forces. Served as a peacekeeper in bosnia and did 2 runs in afganistan. It's hard. I don't want to do it again. My best friend took a goddamn bullet in the head over there. So before you start flaming this boy's idea. Think. Do I have the balls to do what he's doing. The answer will almost definately be no. Why? Because military is hard, and dangerous. Y'all get home from school or the office or the plant or whatever, and you hop on your computers and play videogames. Not the same fighting a war. You get out of your patrol vehicle after being shot at and hated by half the population of the country you're trying to help, and you are dead tired. The few hours you have to yourself are very precious, and if you want to play WoW with those precious hours, be my guest. I hope you boys get WoW, and if you do, tell me what server, and by god i'll play with you. You boys deserve a whole helluva lot more respect than what these folks are giving you.
Y'all remember. These boys didn't start the war, they are just serving their country, protection all you folks so you can play your games, go for a walk without getting gunned down, and keep all the rights and freedoms you got. So godbless and good luck my friend, and remember, there are still some who have respect for you.
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I can't for the life of me figure out why you are arguing with a person who thinks the country is called "Iraqi" and the people there "Iraqians"? At first I thought it was a typo, but after reading the other posts by the person I realised that they are just clueless.
I'm not really saying Blizz should or should not do it, but I played CoX, a game known for substandard performance at times, with a guy in my SG who was in Afghanistan. Maybe you need to talk to someone in communications over there about getting a better connection.
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Originally posted by altairzq
The OP was not suggesting playing WoW RATHER then killing people. He is suggesting playing WoW IN-BETWEEN killing people. At bit of a difference.
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Originally posted by Wikkedbowtie
Thanks for poiting out my mistake, I tried to correct those words now.
But do you really think that not speaking english as my mother tongue makes me somehow less intelligent?
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Originally posted by WoWownsall
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Originally posted by VrikaWhy didn't I think to check that before. You aren't even an american and are not even in the US according to your MMORPG.com profile. Does Finland even have troops helping in Iraq?
Go accuse your own troops of being evil killers and leave the american troops alone. Most people in america support our troops. Thats our right, thats our choice.
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Originally posted by Solase
I don't enjoy your freedom. Try bringing some of that freedom round here and we will kill you.
Blizzards most profitable market isn't the U.S.
A lot of people enjoy their freedom in spite of American efforts to prevent it. A lot of people do have democracy and freedom for themselves and are not looking to you to set any standards for them. A lot of people don't have democracy or the same freedom as you, and are still not looking for you to set any standards for them. Please stop with your flag waving, it wins no prizes. WoW is not on sale in any country that looks to America for moral or political guidance.
I think a local server for forces types would be a great addition. Perhaps on a secure closed net so information leak can be averted. (Trying to monitor or censor private comms over a public server for operational theatres would be a bit more work than any one needs). You could set up a private server perhaps, It would be a PR disaster for Blizzard to shut that down.
The whole good PR business?
I can't see it myself. The majority of WoW players don't support you. Get over yourself. The majority of WoW players were traditionally Pro Saddam, and the most profitable while not exactly pro Saddam are all massively anti Iraq war and all reasonably anti U.S. stormtroopers. If this was a U.S. only game or a primarily U.S. or even coalition game, you might have a point, but we're the monority market in this game.
Please stop harping on about fighting for everyone's freedom. The KKK said exactly the same thing. Mentioning to troops that they have been in a vastly unpopular war is not akin to racism. No one owes you anything. You do it for pay. Leave you out of the politics of your job? You're part of the political system. The part that inflicts it on unwilling participants at gun point or kills them. You chose that job."I vas just following ze orders" isn't going to cut it with anyone. You volunteered. You looked at your great nation, you looked at it's freedoms and it's democratic system of government and you said "I believe". "I'm willing to kill for that".
You don't get to wave your flag and harp on about how you are the key to all that is politically great about your job but then it all be strangely the politicians fault when you do something unpopular.
Just so you understand where I am coming from, I'm pro war, pro invading Iraq, pro american, pro soldiers, pro killing. If you have the balls to kill, you better grow the balls to live with what you do. You won't get charity from your enemies and you don't deserve any.
The support I offer my troops is money. Money for the best guns. Money for the best training. Money for body amour, money for their childrens schools. Money for their holidays.
Get a private server mate. Use it on your VPN.
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What nonsense.
This whole " support our troops" in every stream of media opportunity gets real tired, real quick.
They are doing a tough job (that they signed up for). Its a mentally difficult and stressful task ( which they signed up for). They are fighting for our freedom and the liberties to play MMO's ( debatable at the least).
I hope they all come home soon and safely to their families but this over-riding uber-patriotism can blind people to reality and posions fair debate.
Police, firefighters, etc all face daily life threatening danger in their jobs but yuo hardly see the same endorsement for them.
Just get on on and play the game. Look after your own families and endorse them. If you wanna help the soldiers and ease their burden, either join them in the fighting on the front line or become a politician and lobby for them to come home.
To err is human....to play is divine
This post has been derailed completely. Hopefully a forum moderator will lock this soon. Please, there is no point in posting anymore, so just don't. People are being offended, threatened, and mocked, so just stop. Leave it to the tweens to do this type of thing, not grown people. And if you are a tween derailing threads, go play with your legos or your dolls please.
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Originally posted by pust082
Freedom at gun point is called oppression.
Of all the many beneficial things soldiers bring, freedom has never been one of them. Peace, security, wealth, order...sure. All of these, and each time at the expense of freedom.
They aren't just the ones that are called in to foriegn places to deny the locals their freedom, but they are also the ones that will be called out domestically if anyone tries too hard to gain their freedom at home.
Sorry but you can't divorce politics from your job.
I vas just following zee orders!
Honestly, who respects whinney troops demanding respect for achievements they haven't made. Who respects whinney troops who won't live up to the political responsabilites of their actions.
If you didn't join the army, they wouldn't be able to send you to wars. You are a willing part of the machine. You volunteered. Your voluntary will enabled them to declare war. Your individual free will made the decision to act out those orders. It wasn't just the politicians who made that decision, each and every member in the chain of command down from that point made the same decision. Right down to the man with gun. And he made the big decision. On his own.
I vas just following zee orders! No mate you are responsable for your own actions. 100% personally responsable for every action you take.
For the most part members of my armed services, and even yours, hold my respect. I feel by and large that the work they do is of benefit to me. I also feel that my troops, yours and even the Americans behaviour and skill are a credit to our nations. That they represent us internationally and purport themselves in way I can be proud of.
But the ones that harp on about defending my freedom? No respect at all. I do not suffer idiots lightly.
This is not a post about the war. This post is about one boy in the war over there who wanted to know if it was a good idea to get WoW over there. Why did people instantly jump to arguing about the war. There are tons of news forums for that. This is a video game forum. Not a political discussion forum. Please stop posting. The thread has been derailed, shot, flogged, kicked, kidney punched, and beaten with a nine iron. Just don't post. Thanks to all y'all who don't, and to those of you who do, please mature up a bit.


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Thank you very much, and it's been great to be your partner in this. But I want to also send a special word to Paul Kirk, my former boss, someone who led this commission extraordinarily well. And it is a daunting challenge to follow in his incredible footsteps.
I also want to start by just saying we really have had a great time at the University of Denver, and I hope you have been, too. They are just incredible as partners and we could not have had a better facility, a better team to work with. So to the entire university community and all the folks at the University of Denver who have helped us, thank you very much on behalf of the commission.
There are a number of other organizations that have been absolutely key to us in helping put this on, make it a working space, and make it an enjoyable place for those who come here to participate in this debate. I want to start with Anheiser-Busch, who's been our partner since 1992. Thank you.
Southwest Airlines, which has helped us transport things around the country so all four of these debates can go off in a timely way; the Howard G. Buffett Foundation, Sheldon S. Cohen, Crowell and Moring, the International Bottled Water Association, the Kovler Fund and many, many others. Please give those sponsors and the folks who help us a big hand.
Now, a little bit of information about how we put this broadcast on. You'll see so many cameras around you. They represent the major network organizations that together pool their resources so that we can bring this broadcast to the American people. And I want to spend a little bit of time tonight paying a special tribute to ABC News. It was their turn tonight to work with us, and all of the sound equipment and cameras that you see here are theirs.
ABC, thank you for doing a tremendous job for us.
And last and certainly not least, our friends at C-SPAN. This part of this debate program is being carried to the American people by C-SPAN so that my mother can see it. And so for our friends at C- SPAN, thank you very much for carrying this part of the debate to the American people.
Now, I want to -- I also just want to add to what Frank said about the importance of turning your cell phones off now. Pretend you just got on the plane and they just said the door is closed and everything with an on and off button has to go off now. So just check and make sure that it's off. And just contemplate the pleasure -- the sheer bliss of having 90 minutes that you don't have to text, tweet, or read an e-mail. Wouldn't that be nice?
And also -- and also, as Frank said, very important that we do respect the television audience watching this debate and make sure that we refrain from interrupting what the candidates need to do and what the American people need to do as they hear the candidates, by disturbing this important occasion with applause or any other outward demonstration.
That's it for us, but lastly for me, the greatest pleasure of all -- I've mentioned what a great partnership we've had with the University of Denver. And it's a great pleasure for me to introduce now a great friend of the commission, someone who's worked very closely and very well with us, the chancellor of the University of Denver, Robert Coombe.
COOMBE: On behalf of the entire University of Denver community -- students, faculty and staff members, alumni throughout the world, welcome -- welcome to the University of Denver.
It is a remarkable time, a critical time for our country and really for all the world. And it's very pleasing for us at D.U. to play even a small role in such an event that is so important for so many people worldwide.
This is just one of the ways that we live up to our vision to be a great private university, dedicated to the public good. We're very proud to be a resource for people worldwide who -- who thirst for knowledge and who seek creative solutions to the great issues of our time. Some of those folks who thirst for knowledge are our students. And a number of them are present in this debate hall this evening. They're the lucky few who got tickets to this event out of the lottery that we ran for the last few months. Many, many more -- many, many more, though, participated in a series of events starting this past January and, really, running up to the first part of this week, in total 115 different debate-related events that were attended by more than 25,000 people in total.
Our students have been with us all the way on this. They have played an amazing part in staging the entire thing, from planning to logistics. And so I'd simply like to say thank you to you, Pioneers.
For those of us who -- who make our lives here at the University of Denver, those of us who study and teach and do research, and, really, all of us in the Denver community, this is a particularly important event. It's the first presidential debate to be held in our city, the first in the state, and, really, only one of a few in the West.
Over the last several months, the nation has paid particular attention to how we view things in this remarkably beautiful and diverse part of the country, because Colorado is a -- is a pivotal state in this election. And while I certainly would not offer any -- any opinions in that regard, I would simply say that, as a people, we are generally well-educated and engaged. We are fair-minded and open to new ideas. And like everybody in our country, we are eager to hear from our candidates.
Once again, thanks so much for being here. It's a great pleasure to host this debate.


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I wish the picture were clearer. I still don't know to whom the check was written and who signed it. The impression is the face of the check was written all over. Was there writing on the back that leaked through?
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