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Apr 16 2014
August: Osage County
I finally watched August: Osage County last weekend. As is the case with most movies these days, I didn't get a chance to see it in the theater, so as soon as I saw it was available on Pay Per View, I settled in with Marlboro Man and gave it a shot. I just wanted to share my reflections with you in case you haven't seen it yet and are wondering if you should take the time to watch.
Here's the basic verdict: I didn't like August: Osage County.
I absolutely, positively loved August: Osage County.
Wow. What a movie. And I didn't really expect to love it, I'll admit. I didn't really know what to expect, but the mixed reviews I'd read had messed with my mind. But it made an instant impression on me, and since Pay Per View movies are available for 48 hours after purchase, I wound up watching it twice more throughout the weekend as I was cleaning out our mudroom and doing other things around the house.
I repeat: I loved this movie.
Here are the things that made an impression on me.
Meryl Streep. I'll repeat what I've said about Meryl in the past: She is otherworldly. And no disrespect intended to Best Actress winner Cate Blanchett, who is also a phenomenal actress, and whose Oscar-winning performance in "Blue Jasmine" I haven't seen, but as I watched August: Osage, I kept having the thought, "How could Meryl Streep not have won Best Actress for this?"
She was marvelous.
Julia Roberts. This wasn't gorgeous, glamorous Julia as we've come to know and love her. This was middle aged, married-for-years, cheated on, bad childhood, disillusioned, beaten-down-by-life Julia…and it worked. I was even able to forgive her for the fact that even with graying roots and no makeup, she was still utterly beautiful, because her acting performance was spot-on. This was the case with most all of the actors in August: Osage County, and Julia's is no exception. Her emotions were so close to the surface the entire movie…it caused mine to rise the surface, too.
And that's a sign of a powerful performance.
Julianne Nicholson. Not all of you will know this actress by name, but might recognize her from various TV and movie parts here and there. She was lovely. The scene where she drives away, sobbing, from her mother's house…it brought me to tears every time. Her pain was so palpable. (I'm about to cry right now thinking about it.)
Chris Cooper. He played the next door neighbor in American Beauty and a whole bunch of other notable roles, but I don't think I've ever loved Chris Cooper more than I do in this movie. It helps that his character is one of the very few sane, compassionate ones—there's just something about him that makes me feel safe.
"We've been married 38 years and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But if you can't find a generous place in your heart for your own son, we're not gonna make it to 39."
A memorable movie moment.
The entire cast. I don't know who cast this movie, but they must have superhero powers. Benedict Cumberbatch, Margo Martindale, Juliette Lewis, Abigail Breslin, Dermot Mulroney, Ewan McGregor, Sam Shepard…everyone was perfect. And I remember reading an early review of August: Osage that complained that throughout the movie, all the actors seemed to be trying to outdo one another in the acting department…but even if that were the case, isn't it a good thing? Yes, the acting is intense and the scenes emotional, but that's the whole point of the play/movie. And that's why watching this movie is such an experience.
The scenery. The movie was largely shot in our small town, and the highway scenes were right near our turnoff. In fact, one day, during the filming of August: Osage, as I was heading to the grocery store in town, I wound up having to wait a half a mile down our road while the crew finished some driving scenes involving a red Ferrari…so it was fun seeing those scenes in the movie. And even though Marlboro Man and I couldn't help but fact-check a lot of the highway scenes along the way (wait! they were driving west a minute ago and now they're driving east! wait! Now they're over by Shidler!) we had so much fun seeing our little area of Oklahoma featured in this way.
The story. It ain't easy. It's heavy. Sad. But the writing is so good, it keeps you going, and we have Tracy Letts to thank for that. The story was based on events in his own family, which only brings more life to the characters. They're real.
I'll stop there. I could go on and on, but I just wanted to brush some broad strokes and let you know that I didn't like August: Osage County at all. I loved it.
Have you seen it? Did you love it?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
P.S. The language in the movie ain't for kiddos…or for moviegoers with sensitive ears. ("Eat the ******* fish!") Just FYI.
410 Comments and 73 Replies
Diane On Wednesday, April 16 at 7:51 am
We went to it in the theater, and walked out halfway through. So I guess we did not love it.
Tracy On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:32 am
Us too. Worst movie I ever saw.
ann On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:45 am
Saw the play at the Globe Theatre in San Diego. Fantastic acting-a very intense play. Definitely not for everyone.
Sue On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:55 am
I watched it On Demand last weekend, I want that 2 hours of my life back. It was beyond bad, in my opinion. Yes, the cast was amazing, and I was very hopeful going into watching it. But was just awful. So disappointed.
Faith Bowe On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:54 am
Agreed! I was so happy I didnt go to the theater and see it. It was terrible. Bad enough I spent the 1.50 at Redbox!
Elizabeth On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:53 am
I too was extremely disappointed with this movie. It was depressing and the vulgarity was absolutely unnecessary. It just goes to show that you can have the greatest talent in the world and if the story is bad, nothing they can do can make it better. If I was any of them, I would have quit — money be damned. I wouldn't want my name and face on such a film.
Susan P On Wednesday, April 16 at 4:02 pm
I'm will y'all….horrible, horrible, horrible!
Leigh A. On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:51 pm
I will throw my two cents in to add to this pile. Didn't like it – Didn't hate it, but I was definitely left disillusioned and frustrated. Acting was good, plot had potential. But the ball was dropped on this pearl which left it a rusty copper penny. I can see how the familiarity of the location and family and even storyline was endearing enough to look past all of its downfalls. But I cannot point out just one or two issues with this movie for me – as there were many. Most notable was the ending…. THAT was an ending!?! Sorry, Ree – but this was nowhere close to the caliber of Steel Magnolias and the like.
Tami On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:00 pm
I agree- I came home from seeing this movie and told my husband that is was the worst movie I had EVER seen- just awful awful story line.
Joe G On Sunday, April 20 at 2:26 am
I also walked out half way through. It was a movie in search of a plot. Even Meryl Streep's considerable talent could not save it. Basically a screed by a woman addicted to pills.
Mrs. Lucky On Monday, April 21 at 7:50 am
I thought the actors were very good – however the ending was "what the heck" to me! Very disappointed. I watched this on a flight coming home – on the way out I watched Nebraska – about 4 hours I will never get back!!! I am giving up on Oscar nominated movies-waste of my time.
Shea On Monday, April 21 at 3:12 pm
Agreed. Watched it over the weekend. Not good…loved the cast. But, storyline wasn't great in my opinion.
BB On Tuesday, April 22 at 12:10 am
Well I saw it when it came out here (in Australia) and had no idea what to expect. Yes it was VERY dark and I have to say, I wasn't prepared for that. But I was totally caught up in the acting and the scenery… mesmerising. And (even being an Aussie) cannot see how Meryl didn't win for this – one of her best ever performances.
But if you are feeling a bit down, I'd probably find something else to watch.
Jackie On Tuesday, April 22 at 9:23 am
Worst movie. I agree that Meryl should win an Oscar for her acting abilities, but this movie was so depressing. Plus I LOVE Julia Roberts. However, I left hating that I wasted time and good money to go see it. Was so disappointed because I was expecting so much out of it.
Susan J. On Wednesday, April 16 at 7:59 am
Powerful movie – tragic and oddly funny at times. I would warn that I never heard the "f" word so much in my life. Don't want to put any spoilers in here. I don't think I want to see it again, though. It was heavy and dark.
Julie G On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:34 am
I think I'll try to check it out one weekend when the hub is fishing and I can check out a few flicks to watch at home. Strangely enough, I had never even heard of this movie and just saw it in a Redbox e-mail and was trying to figure out what it was about.
Janet in Kansas City On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:00 am
Well I'm going to see it now!
JudyK On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:00 am
I enjoyed reading your take on August Osage County. I saw it with a group of people & I think I was the only one who loved the movie. I plan on seeing it again just to more closely watch the actors & notice the details of the set. I loved the house where it was filmed..
loved the trees blowing in the Oklahoma wind. Loved the haybales by the side of the road..loved the mainstreet scenes. But I mostly loved Meryl & Julia together.
Wanday On Wednesday, April 16 at 6:09 pm
That OK wind never ceases! Its crazy!!
andree On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:01 am
Hi Ree!! I went to go see August:Osage County with my mom when it was in theatres. I have to be honest-the previews we had seen had us thinking we would be in for mostly a comedic look at the down and dirty family dynamics that make up most of our families in some way, with an occasional nod to the more serious. We were utterly unprepared for the gritty, honest, in your face account of the hurt and pain that secrets, substance abuse, and dishonesty can bring upon people. Even though we weren't expecting the rawness factor, we loved it as well! It was so honest and true and real and made you feel so deeply for the characters who have had to endure so much, and still must keep going despite the obvious cracks and broken pieces in their family. I don't know how Meryl didn't win best actress either! She played her role flawlessly, and I appreciated the "ugly" factor they seemed to give the characters-it made them seem that much more relatable. Definitely a must see!! Glad you enjoyed it as well,
Andree-quite likely your biggest fan and follower from New Orleans!
Heidik On Wednesday, April 16 at 7:04 pm
I couldn't have said it better. The only thing I didn't like was Benedict Cumberbatch's accent. I love him beyond words, but the accent was bad (acting was great, as usual).
vtjane On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:06 am
Thanks for your thoughts on the movie! I haven't seen it yet; but it's on my list of movies to see! I usually rent from RedBox, and if I don't like a movie and can't stand to watch it, I don't feel like I've wasted too much money … .
Cheryl Bader On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:06 am
This movie haunted me for days. The acting was perfection from everyone as you noted. I was amazed that I was so moved with such flawed characters! I will watch it again and again
Bill Weisel On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:08 am
Oh pulleeze. Not another chick flik. Focus Ree. Think…mainstream movies. I want to know how MM liked it. Although I'd be shocked if he sat there and watched it with you.
Natalie On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:08 am
This is either sarcasm or you haven't seen the movie. This can in no way be classified as a chick flick.
kate On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:47 am
As an intelligent woman, I am both insulted and disheartened by your remarks. I have to believe you didn't (or, more likely, wouldn't) see the movie. Perhaps you might consider broadening your horizons…
Julie N On Wednesday, April 16 at 1:55 pm
Wow. Have to say the "f-word" came to my mind when I read your comments. Insulting and disheartening are right on the money!
liz On Wednesday, April 16 at 2:33 pm
Oh Bill. If you think this is a chick flick you clearly haven't seen it. Or else you have a very narrow point of view. I feel sorry for you.
JulesInNC On Thursday, April 17 at 8:35 am
Look around you. You are on Ree's blog. She does not need to add her husband's opinion to lend credibility to this (or anything else she posts). She is writing about a (mainstream, Oscar-nominated) movie that spoke to her, and which was also set in her area. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. It happened to feature two (hugely-respected, legendary) female leads, but that doesn't pigeon-hole it as a chick-flick. (Note also that her recent top movies list featured many "guy-friendly" picks–Rain Man, The Godfather.) Feel free to go check out Deadspin if you need a shot of testosterone, but please take your negativity and retro-misogynist attitude elsewhere.
Pam M On Thursday, April 17 at 2:44 pm
Yeah! What Jules said!
Bill Weisel On Monday, April 21 at 2:43 pm
Now now ladies. All the finest actors and acting in the world could make a bad movie good.
Phebe On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:09 am
Like you absolutely loved it! Felt the way you did about all aspects. Living in Oklahoma all my life lent a special meaning to the scenery and the house! Oh that house!I saw it in the theatre and still find myself laughing out loud remembering a couple of the lines in the movie. " I am running the show now" by Julia Roberts. My husband hasn't seen it yet, so we plan to watch it from On Demand soon. Can't wait to see it again. Thanks for your review.
nina sievers On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:10 am
My sister, my best friend and I saw the movie at our theater in our small Texas town right after it's release. We all had the same reaction as you did—such raw, powerful performances from the ENTIRE cast! Of course, Meryl Streep gave the stand-out performance. We came away from it with such gratitude for our own "normal" and loving families.
Deb On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:13 am
I thought they all did an over the top job on the acting!!! Amazing work!!! It wasn't my favorite movie but it was ok.
Angela from Maryland On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:15 am
We plan to watch it also this weekend as Netflix has it on PPV. With a cast of great actors and actresses and filmed in a beautiful part of the country, how bad could this movie be. Ree, I did not realize your home was in Osage County; all the better.
Erin D On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:19 am
Curious to know if Marlboro Man liked it as much as you did. Don't know if my hubby would enjoy. My mom hated it but I haven't seen it yet.
Jeanne (NanaBread) On Friday, April 18 at 9:57 am
I watched with my husband, The Complete Package. We both loved it. He's from Tulsa and we lived there (Owasso) before moving to Houston. We both felt it was the best movie we've seen this year (and we've been running through this year's Oscar Best Movies list). The depth of emotion conveyed in two short hours is astounding. Meryl Streep was robbed. I love Cate Blanchett, but Meryl's performance was far superior. We also loved that Oklahoma (and the beautiful scenery shots) was its own character. Yes, it's a heavy and sometimes ugly story, but that's why it scores so deeply. I'll see it again and again. It's a masterpiece.
JoAnne On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:20 am
I went to see this in the theatre with my girlfriend, she was on the fence, but I loved it. Meryl. Oy. Julia. Oy. The acting was dynamic, the close ups showed every line and freckle in their faces and Chris Cooper, the best line in the movie. It was tragic and heartbreaking yet I believe it reflects many, many families, so many of us have the Drama !!!
I did not realize it was shot in your town until I saw the town name, and then I thought of you throughout the movie. I loved it.
Marsha Siperek On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:23 am
I watched this at home also and was glad I did. It was fabulous but so sad. I hate blubbering in theaters.
Angela On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:28 am
My best friend and I saw this in the movie theater. The acting was incredible but it was depressing as all get out. We actually went to see American Hustle immediately afterwards just to lighten the mood a little.
Patty Grooms On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:32 am
I did want to see it because of Julia Roberts, but too many reviews warning of bad language and heaviness of the plot changed my mind.
d lawless On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:35 am
I rented it from redbox the day it came out. It never came out in our local theater down here were I work in Louisiana.
I watched it twice. The storyline, the actors, the script.. I thought,,,were amazing. My kids use to get on to me about picking a movie apart, but this one.. oh my. The seemingly real, raw storyline touched on more, should I say.. normal and dysfunctional family issues than I have ever seen in a movie and not in a series. I loved all the acting and I have to say Mattie Faye, (Margo Martindale) was crazy scary in her hatefulness to her son.
I am from Oklahoma and it was pretty cool to see the flatness of the location although being from Edmond I didn't get up there very often.
But yes, I loved the movie. Has everything, sadness, funny, tragic, love, and though some might find it shocking to hear old ladies use the F word.. I don't think the script would have been so believable had that particular portrayed family used anything else.
carol On Friday, April 18 at 7:09 pm
A side note to the movie said it was based on real events in the author's life. Tragic
Cecilie On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:37 am
I haven't seen it yet, but plan to, mainly because I'm a huge fan of Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts…and the rest of the cast! Ree, in the dining room photo you posted, did you notice they're using Frankoma pottery plates??! I'll need to see the movie several times just to pick up on the Oklahoma-inspired details they included. Growing up and living in Pawnee County (just across the Arkansas River from Osage County), I'm curious what the scenery looks like through the cinematographer's eyes–we think we live in God's country, but I know a lot of people who don't appreciate our hills and prairies…
Cindy W On Thursday, April 17 at 11:16 am
I missed seeing those plates, we had those in our kitchen too! I did notice some of the other dishes and serving pieces that they used were familiar to me as well. I thought they really nailed the little details like that.
Kathy D. On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:37 am
I always check with Focus on the Family's Plugged In for movie reviews to see if it would be something I would be comfortable seeing. After reading the review with language, sexual content, & conclusion I made the decision not to see it. I would like to, because I love a movie that tells a story and has great acting. There are so few movies that come out these days that are character driven that I really wanted to be able to go see it.
JRo On Wednesday, April 16 at 2:35 pm
Perhaps YOU should decide what art to witness in your life, and not let somebody else decide for you. You never know what you might be missing…think of how many breath's haven't been taken away letting others dictate your decisions.
Liz On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:54 pm
@JRo movie guideline sites mostly give a breakdown of content that for some has already been determined offensive. Art is extremely personal and for some having the senses constantly barraged with the F-word might be like watching someone throw a bucket of paint on a Rembrandt.
Emily B On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:25 pm
You clearly haven't seen Dexter or Breaking Bad. You're missing out.
carol On Friday, April 18 at 7:12 pm
I must have missed something. I don't remember any sex scenes.
Kathy On Friday, April 18 at 9:13 pm
Not sexual scenes, sexual content.
Plugged-In Review on sexual content.
Several critical and explosive plot points are predicated on salacious family secrets, including incest and extramarital affairs. We hear about, without seeing, quite a lot of sexual activity. But there's a visual exception that requires both documentation and a spoiler warning: Steve, Karen's well-coifed and slimy beau, makes moves on 14-year-old Jean. He asks how old she is (she tells him truthfully), then later essentially seduces her with the promise of pot. Someone in the house overhears them giggling in the yard late at night, Steve asking Jean if he can "see them" (context making it clear he's talking about her breasts). The camera catches him embracing her, his shirt unbuttoned and his hand caressing her back underneath her shirt. (They are discovered and the encounter is swiftly and embarrassingly terminated.) Karen, then, despite catching her man with a 14-year-old is determined to forgive Steve and hold onto her dream that they can still honeymoon in Belize.
mitzi On Monday, April 21 at 12:52 pm
The comfort zone is a great enemy of creativity. Moving beyond it necessitates intuition, which in turn configures new perspectives and conquers fears. Dan Stevens
Kathy D, I would love to encourage you to move beyond your comfort zone. I feel that moving beyond my comfort zone in college by being exposed to so many ideas/behaviors was the most educational part of those four years. I saw how others lived and learned from that without having to pay the consequences myself. I sifted through all those ideas using the filter of my upbringing to decide which were worthwhile and which were horrible warnings. My mind was opened to things I would have never thought of, staying on the limited path my family clung too. My world became wider but I was not corrupted. I still married the first (and only) boy I ever kissed.
Blessings, Mitzi
Diana On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:39 am
My husband and I saw this when it opened and I was shocked because I expected it to be funny but I just loved it…it is sad and deep and the first thing I said when the lights came up was well, I guess we can appreciate our dysfunctional family a little more now and we both walked out laughing, it will definitely make you count your blessings.
Kathy Troyer On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:40 am
The story line was painful (mainly because of my own extended family's dysfunction). Great acting. Love love love Julia R and Meryl S. I got excited for you & OK when I saw the Pawhuska sign in one scene.
Didn't care for the F word but I guess that's reality for many families.
All in all, I loved the movie but could only say, "wow" when it was over.
Stephanie M. On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:40 am
Haven't seen this yet but after your reviews I definitely will!!! Thanks Ree!
janie n On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:46 am
I saw it at the theater and loved it…
JennieRC On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:48 am
I just watched it too, two nights ago. And then again the next morning. I really thought it was brilliant and I also thought Meryl was uttering amazing in a few scenes. And I also thought Julia was still beautiful. ;)) Yes, I agree with everything you've written, and it was fun to read this right after I watched it. I had forgotten that it was filmed near you. So cool!
That said, it made me depressed for a day. Sometimes watching dysfunction in a brilliant movie is tough…but it was pretty spot on with the effects of addiction and alcoholism in a family system. Heartache, human frailty…and strength.
Mirandajoe On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:49 am
Glad to read your take on the movie. I saw the trailer during another movie quite some time ago and really wanted to see it; I thought I would also LOVE the movie. Then, i saw it was rated R. Darn! I made a commitment years ago to stop watching R-rated movies and any programing not friendly to all audiences. I think Hollywood should be able to make fabulous movies without going there. Anyway, it sounds like it was indeed a very good movie with two of the best actresses ever. Maybe the industry will tone it down at some point and it will be a Sunday night movie on television. Who knows! Love your blog and Happy Easter to you and yours.
nichole On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:37 am
I don't think it would be toned down enough ever to be on network tv. Maybe TNT or FX or something. It's not just the F words, the actual content is very heavy.
Emily On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:28 pm
Sometimes the F bomb and many other 'bombs' need to be made to tell the story. This story seems like a family with history where F 'bombs' were said frequently. If all movies were PG or G then we wouldn't see reality or a glimpse of what kind of life is really out there. There isn't always a Prince Charming.
Lenore On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:51 am
Haven't see the movie yet. Thanks for the critique. I love all the actors in the film so I know it's bound to be good.
Jen Alexander On Wednesday, April 16 at 8:53 am
I went to see the movie in the theater with my 20 year old daughter. I loved it so much but she thought it was the most depressing movie ever. I am from Bartlesville so seeing our Oklahoma way of life on the big screen was exciting. I will watch this movie over and over.
Amy On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:03 am
The play was outstanding; the movie…very well done. I agree the cast was phenomenal!
Sondra On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:15 am
Hard movie to watch. Really well acted, what a cast!!! My husband hated this movie but I thought it was great!
MommyChicken On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:15 am
Hi Ree, My hubby and I went to see 'August..' when it first opened. Of course I bawled out loud lots of times. He too loved the movie as much as I..he just didn't cry out loud…. we bought it as soon as it came out on DVD….. We still talk about it and we both think you do need to watch it more than once, ( largely so you can hear what you missed because you were bawling so loud the first times you saw it if you're like me..) One thing we did notice when we were at the theatre the audience was overwhelmingly people our age ( 60's) and mainly female…. Loved seeing your part of the country- another reason to watch more than once… watch just to look at the backgrounds of each scene … did you pick up the 'fish plate' error ? We did …..
Vicki On Thursday, April 17 at 12:00 pm
You mean after they threw the plates on the floor and in the next scene, at least one plate with the plated fish was back on the table!!
Mary On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:17 am
I watched this movie 3 times because the acting is incredible. Meryl Streep won me over again! The topics in this movie are not child friendly but I think we as grown ups can say that there is just a little bit of truth in this movie for all of us.
Janice in EP On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:18 am
I saw this movie with my daughter. As the credits rolled she looked at me and said "No matter how crazy you get I want us to never be estranged and I hope I never have to yell curse words at you to get you to eat your fish" I replied. "I don't like fish"
That move was wonderful, what I got was, how sad it is to see yourself become your mother. No matter if we know that is exactly what we don't want, and think we are consciously trying to not let that happen, our mothers seep in. Sometimes that's great, but as was Julia's case it was not.
As she drove off down that road, I wished she was heading back to her daughter
Jeep Gal On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:54 am
That was exactly what I took away from the movie. When Julia Roberts is running after her sister and says she was not the one who told her about the brother and the sister replies "There's no difference," it really struck a chord with me. As the oldest of four, I hear this all the time from my siblings.
rebecca On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:19 am
Well, I thought it was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I threw money away at the theatre to see it. It was dark and depressing and the ending was the pits. The previews made you laught, but when you were watching it even the scenes that should have been funny made you want to jump off of a cliff. Other than that, it was fine.
NanC On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:19 am
I loved the acting…have always been a Meryl Streep, Julia Roberts and Juliette Lewis fan…oh, and let's not leave out, a Sam Shepard fan! The movie kept me interested the whole way through, but I was hoping for a better ending…I was like huh?…Oh…geez…
Ydubby On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:20 am
Sorry. Didn't care for it. Just a dis functional family screaming at each other all through the movie. No humor as suggested in the previews.
sherri On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:21 am
I hated it! The only thing I liked was about half way through I put it together that that was where you lived! The picture you posted here and downtown did it for me! I remember seeing them on some of your TV shows. Back to the movie. It was so dysfunctional and I cracked up laughing at the end, because it just sorta stopped. Acting was great to be able to carry off such a bad movie. Everyone in the theater was cracking up at the end!
Adrienne K On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:21 am
I completely agree with you! Not sure why this movie got negative reviews. I thought Meryl Streep's performance was incredible. So multi-dimensional. Just confirms the fact that she can do anything. She definitely should have received the award for this role. Cate Blanchett was good in Blue Jasmine, but I don't think she came close.
Erin On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:21 am
I was so sad to read at first that you didn't like it, then relieved to see that you loved it! I did too. It was dark, no doubt about it. But just absolutely outstanding. I read it as a screenplay just this week. I thought it would be hard to read in that form, but it wasn't. I was glad that there wasn't some happy ending tacked on to the end. Real life can be very messy, and there aren't always happy endings. I had high hopes for it winning more awards, but it was definitely my favorite movie of the year.
Dava On Wednesday, April 30 at 10:33 am
Read the actual stage play. There are a few scenes that changed or didn't make it into the movie. (Some friends & I had a reading of the play before seeing the movie…I have some extra copies…I'll send one to you!
Trish On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:22 am
I went to see the movie with a friend,I knew the story line,I lived the story line… In the middle of the movie, dinner table scene I broke down and started sobbing,I left the theater and hope one day I will be able to sit down and watch the entire movie. Very,very powerful movie.
Peezy On Monday, June 16 at 3:39 pm
God Bless you Trish, you'll be in my prayers…
Kellie B. On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:22 am
I saw it with my two BFF's the day it came out and we loved it! Yes it was powerful, funny and tragic! And we could relate to all the actors! They all played strong relatable members of our own families!
Shelly On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:23 am
Your review was spot on. I just watched this movie myself this past weekend and like you, watched it again and saw brilliance. I love these movies and the cast was super. Beats car chases and explosions any day.
Lynn On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:28 am
Gotta say I didn't like it at all. The story line would've been okay; I just couldn't get past the language. I found it terribly offensive and insultingly smutty at times. Wow, there were so many dysfunctional aspects, too: alcoholism, drug abuse, infidelity, incest, child molestation just to name a few. As a rule, I don't usually see R rated movies because that kind of language is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, but the cast was so stellar, I thought maybe I'd give it a go. I'm ashamed to say I didn't walk out; I guess I kept waiting for it to get better. I just have to believe that you can tell a story and evoke the feelings and emotions intended without using the "F" word hundreds of times. I guess I just don't get it. This is certainly no condemnation for those who loved it; it just wasn't a thumbs up for me or the other lady who saw it with me.
Denise On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:30 am
My husband I watched this movie on pay per view this past weekend too. He didn't like it at all. I LOVED IT!! I texted my sister and several friends and told them that this was the best movie I'd seen in years and years. And you're so right, Ree, the acting was nothing short of phenomenal.
Linda M. On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:30 am
The play was presented in Dallas a few years back and I really wanted to see it, but a good theater friend commented it was good but terribly depressing. The star quality of the movie made me want to see it, but her comment came back to my mind so I didn't. After reading the comments here I am now interested in seeing it. I believe it was a Tony award winning play (or at least a nominee). This type of subject is sometimes hard to watch in the intimacy of a small theater, but in movie form a bit easier. It sounds like the movie has done justice to the play, which isn't always the case. Thanks to you and all your readers for their comments. It will be on my OnDemand list of movies to watch.
Kim On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:31 am
Just watched it this weekend also and was not prepared for the grittiness. I was expecting a quirky comedy. I agree the performances were fantastic and I also was left wondering how Meryl did not win! I found it very difficult to watch so I don't think I would watch it again, however!
Jean On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:32 am
"Real." Hmmm. Only if real = hideous.
Terri On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:33 am
Hated it!
I don't see many movies and want to be entertained. I'm sure the acting was marvelous, but I didn't like the movie at all. Sad situations, sad lives.
JMH On Thursday, April 17 at 10:29 am
Agreed. I hate depressing movies. When I go to a movie, I don't want it to be dark and gritty. I get enough of that in my day job. Glad I didn't see this and based on what I am reading, I won't see it
Paula M On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:33 am
Finally! I was waiting for you to review this movie. I knew that it had been filmed, or set at least, in your neck of the woods. I was curious to hear your thoughts on it partcularly because it was such a dark film.
Jeep Gal On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:35 am
I loved this movie, too! I am so glad I am not the only one who sadly has to wait for pay-per-view to watch a movie. Life is too busy!!!!
Sue On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:36 am
Julianna Nicholson is a terrific actress and I'm so glad you mentioned her. I wish more people knew who she was
Cindy in Oklahoma On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:36 am
Ree, I haven't seen it because I was afraid it might hit me where it hurt…. you know? But now I will. I have to ….so I can participate in conversations with people who have.
And off subject, but have any of you seen "The Address" on PBS by Ken Burns????
If you haven't, please do…. it's one of the most moving things I've seen in quite some time. My husband watched it with me and his response? "I want a copy of this so I can take it to the next family get together to show to all the kids." Powerful, I tell you. Powerful in ways you won't be able to articulate.
Joanie B On Wednesday, April 16 at 12:53 pm
Just saw "The Address" last night. You are so right about its power. Especially when Ian recites.
Tina On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:38 am
I saw the play in Tulsa a few years back and liked it, so I was excited for the movie. I'm with you Ree, I didn't like the movie – I LOVED it. Some of it was painful to watch (just because it was all too close to my own relationship with my mother) – but the end was so hopeful. You can see it in Julia's face… This will not be me, this will not be my life. Fantastic acting all around. I will be adding this movie to my permanent collection.
Megan Funk On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:39 am
I really loved this movie as well! I am not sure how Meryl and Julia didn' win any awards. And the story line with Julianne Nicholas and Benedict Cumberbatch was lovely and heartbreaking. All around great, great movie! Certainly underrated.
Tracy W On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:41 am
When I left the theater I said 'someone will win an Oscar for this", but I disliked this movie very much. The first 15 minutes were ok, but it went downhill from there. From the trailers I expected a funny look into a dysfunctional family with a little drama thrown in, but it was mostly just a lot of yelling and berating. I could have dealt with the darkness if it had had some meaning, but this didn't. I kept waiting to 'get it' but never did. I hardly ever go to a theater to see a movie and was sorry I had chosen this one.
Linda On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:43 am
Loved this movie. Yes, we all take on a lot of our Mothers character, but hopefully like Julia we seperate the good from the bad and choose a better path. Would definitely watch this movie again.
Anele @ Success Along the Weigh On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:45 am
Oh wow, gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. The Mr and I LOATHED this movie. Twelve different times I saw him look at me like "please turn this dung off." I was invested and saw it through and regretted it. This typically happens with all star casts…we get duped and then get angry for wasting 2 hours of our lives when it's over.
Sorry :-\
Janice On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:46 am
I loved this movie too! And Meryl Streep's performance killed me. Especially the end. I don't know how she didn't win either. I wish I had caught it when it was on Broadway. EVERYONE told me to go see it but when I heard that it was a 4 hour long experience, my back pain was like, Nope, can't do that. And now I regret it very much. This movie makes up for it!
Janice On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:51 am
Also, Tracy Letts is a talented writer and actor. His performance in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? was phenomenal!
Christine On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:47 am
I watched the movie last night. I wanted to love it but I felt it had some issues that stood in the way. The ending, I felt, was awkward and fell flat. The acting was wonderful. Meryl Streep is incredible. The characters were so authentic–I've known all of them. For me, Julia Roberts was the least interesting but I do admire her courage to take on the part without makeup and hair. I would have to say that there are parts of this movie I loved but it could have been great. Just my two cents.
mnheather On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:48 am
I too watched it just this weekend at home "on demand". 15 minutes in, I hated it. But I'm glad I stuck it out. I agree with every sentiment you expressed. Meryl. My goodness. It was dark. It was heavy. It was funny at times! I cried when Julianne Nicholson drove away. Such a powerful part of the movie. so powerful. powerful. moving. Meryl….
Cindy On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:48 am
I made my best friend go see it with me. We both loved it! I had heard reviews too that said that everyone overacted in their performances. But maybe those people don't have families like mine? Maybe we're not quite that dramatic, but I totally related to the characters. I loved everyone in this movie, they all did such a great job.
And the "eat the ******* fish" scene had us laughing out loud in the theater. Right before we were crying again.
it's me, sam On Thursday, April 17 at 7:34 pm
I went with one of my bff's to see it and we"ll look at each other and say that line "eat the … fish" and howl with laughter… I loved the movie, very accurate description of a drug addict parent… Wonderful movie, and I noticed that there was a shot of the new to you "store" in the movie…
Christine M On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:51 am
Thanks REE. I haven't seen the movie yet, but plan on making it a priority on my "to see" list. I am from Chicago where the play originated and didn't bother seeing it here (what was I thinking) saw it on Broadway. It was phenomenal. We sat for 3 hours and felt like we didn't breath! There's a big "WOAH" moment either before intermission or right after and there was a couple who had obviously seen the show and waited for our reaction. We did not disappoint.
I love Julia and Meryl and was almost afraid to see this incase it wasn't good, but I will definitely watch now.
Wondering what you thought of American Hustle? (just watched it this weekend myself)
Jill On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:53 am
I watched this movie on Pay Per View this weekend too! I had been excited to see it since I missed it in the theatres. I thought it was great. Every time a new person came on the screen I was thinking, whoa! they have a lot of big people in this! It was a touching story and I wasn't ready for it to end. I always like to have a final ending, but I know the writers like us to make our own ideas of what happened to the characters.
I also got excited when I saw your town! "Nebraska" was filmed in towns an hour away from where I live so it was fun to watch that and call them out on the facts. One being a bus schedule in a town window, we don't have busses in Northeast Nebraska! I thought of that when the son rode the bus into town, I bet you don't have busses either??
Have you seen "Nebraska"? It is also great. Way funnier than I expected, June Squib is a crack up in that movie!
Cindy in Oklahoma On Wednesday, April 16 at 1:24 pm
My dad recommended "Nebraska" to me, too. He loved it so much he talked of nothing else for weeks…..
GingerR On Monday, April 21 at 3:18 pm
Nebraska is a wonderful movie!
It's a little sad and there are some scenes that some may take offense but nothing very shocking.
I recommend it as well.
Julia On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:57 am
Loved it too! It's real. It hit home in a lot of ways and it gave me some perspective. I've never been a big Meryl fan, but this movie converted me. I thought she was a lock for the Oscar, but what do I know?!
Kimberly On Wednesday, April 16 at 9:59 am
Count me among the people who found this movie a little bit over acted for my taste. That being said, I think it was a good movie and very well written. It just isn't my personal taste.
I also just can't bring myself to jump on the Meryl Streep bandwagon. I will still see movies with her in them, but she just seems so….condescending, to me. Her characters always seem so dramatic and over the top with emotion that I actually find her rather exhausting to watch.
Sue On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:00 am
Ree, please, please watch Blue Jasmine. Meryl is always an amazing actress, but Cate Blanchett totally deserved the Oscar this year. Her acting was incredible!
Patricia Kelley On Sunday, April 20 at 2:16 pm
Sorry, I saw Blue Jasmine and August Osage County and the Oscar should have gone to Meryl. Cate Blanchet is a great and talanted actress, but Meryl left her blood sweat and tears in that movie. Who is not a fan of Meryl Streep?
Celeste On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:03 am
I do not consider a dysfunctional family entertainment, and I saw the movie only because I had happily been a visitor in that house and because I love the Osage! It had been 50 years since I had last seen the house; it looked shabbier on the outside than I remembered, However, like you, I really enjoyed the road shots.
The surprise was the acting and the actors and actresses and I ending up enjoying it so much that now I want to see it again.
Kelly Reynolds On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:03 am
I absolutely loved this movie!!! It wasn't what I expected, since I for some reason thought this movie was a comedy. Boy was I mistaken!!! I agree with you on the fact that this was some of the best acting ever. I was emotionally exhausted by the end of the movie, but couldn't wait to watch it again. I'm happy to find out that it was filmed near yall's ranch, because the whole movie, I was wondering if this was near where yall live.
Jennifer C. On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:05 am
I didn't love the movie but I did love the acting. I can't believe you didn't mention Ewan McGregor! He was great!
Gina G On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:07 am
I saw it for the first time this weekend. Although I loved it, I am glad that I didn't buy it. This hits a little too close to home, but it was more insightful than painful. It's definitely not for everyone.
Amy in Atlanta On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:08 am
I also loved this movie. I found myself laughing out loud at the most inappropriate times because I couldn't believe what just came out of their mouths.
Sue On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:12 am
Hmmm, thanks for the review. Was curious about it, so many negative reviews and I wondered why. Sounds like one to watch however!
Liz Di Bari On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:13 am
Hey Ree. I'm glad you shared your review of this movie. Several of my friends saw it and told me not to bother because it was very depressing so I have avoided renting it. Now that I've read your review, I might just give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
desi On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:15 am
Loved the acting. HATED the movie and ending. It didn't seem completed. maybe it was just too much like going home for me. minus the drug/alcohol issues. My family is crazy enough without all the help.
Sandy K On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:18 am
Ree, my hubby and I rented it from Redbox and watched it together last night.
Powerful cast and movie; we both looked at each other and said: "At least our families aren't that crazy!"
It was not the comedy I had thought we would see, it was deep and real. Like real life.
I did enjoy it and could not stop watching because of the realness of it and the family interaction.
I do wish Hollywood would stop using my Lord's name in vain and the F word does not need to be used. They could have made this movie and not used those words and it still could have come through the same.
Susi Matthews On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:18 am
I've dithered about seeing this movie; frankly, I have enough 'hard reality' in my life as it is and my 7 years living in Oklahoma left scars that are still healing, as lovely as the countryside is, but with this review of it, I've made up my mind that I must see this one.
With apologies to those who didn't like it, my reflection is that perhaps some people can't deal deal well enough with gritty emotional honesty to appreciate a movie that features a lot of that. And that my opinion is that people who can't deal with it, tend to have more superficial relationships. It's *hard* to watch that sort of thing but sometimes it helps to see a masterful retelling of difficult stuff in order to help one deal with one's own gritty difficult stuff.
Just a thought…
Kimberly On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:59 am
I would like to respectfully disagree with you on your analysis. Although I recognized this was a good movie, it was not my personal taste. I did find it overacted and, as you said "emotionally gritty."
I do like emotionally gritty movies, but the movie needs to be paced in such a way that allow a break to think about the emotional scenes. The problem for me, with this movie, was that the emotion was a never-ending tide, the viewer never got a break to stop and think about what was happening. Eventually, with that much emotion, I just got numb. I find this to happen pretty frequently with Meryl Streep movies.
I do not think this makes me a superficial person. I do not think this means my own personal relationships are lacking.
Sister D On Wednesday, April 16 at 2:08 pm
Susi, you may be on to something. My sister and I were raised in a wildly dysfunctional family with lots of cursing and hitting. She refuses to see this movie. I want to watch it and discuss it with her. I can't help but think that my mother would also refuse to watch it and would not see herself in the matriarch.
Heidi F On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:19 am
I LOVED it as well!! The acting was amazing. I wanted to watch it again the next day.
Carolyn A On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:26 am
I saw this movie in the theater and if I had been alone I would have left very soon after it started. I am pretty open minded but the language was beyond disgusting….I was so disappointed.
Amy G. On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:37 am
I have basically stopped watching movies – even PG-13's, because of the bad language. I just can't stand it!! It's so disappointing, because I love movies!
Gayle On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:44 am
I have not seen the movie yet–intend to–can't remember how to use my VCR & the kids won't help me:( However, I did notice the Frankhoma plate–so it must be fairly accurate!! I will never become my mother. I've already dealt with more that she ever did or will.
Patricia Kelley On Sunday, April 20 at 2:26 pm
What year are you living in? They don't make VHS tapes anymore. You just need to buy it "on demand".
Suzie P On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:47 am
I loved that movie! I went to it in the theater. I agree, it was hard to watch in spots due to the content and language, but oh my goodness, did I love it. It took a good 3 days to process through everything that movie made me feel. So good.
Chrystal On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:48 am
DISLIKE! While the actors/actresses do a good job portraying their characters, the story is basic, boring & depressing!!!!
I did wonder if the film hired you, Ree, to cook for them while they were there, on location! (They should have! That would have been the only good thing about that film!)
Della On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:49 am
I absolutely loved this movie and had the same thoughts regarding Meryl Streep (how did she not win). It was raw and gritty and emotional. Not for all, I guess but it was definitely one of my favourites.
Stacy K. On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:52 am
Gosh…..I wanted that 2 hours back from my life!!! At least I wanted some redemption at the end……I left feeling horrible!!! The acting was amazing though, I'll give it that, but the content and storyline just depressed me. Guess I'm just a happy go lucky kind of girl!!
Faith Bowe On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:03 am
So right, Stacy K.! If something….anything would have been resolved, it would've changed the whole movie. The acting was, absolutely amazing and I too loved all the "no make-up, see all the facial lines" of the actors. But the movie was just pointless. Heavy, sad movies dont bother me but this one went no where with all the same heaviness and sadness.
Faith Bowe On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:52 am
I rented this movie with no knowledge of the connection of where is was set and the connection to "Pioneer Woman". That being said, I thought the movie was pretty blah. The language didnt bother me and the acting was spot on with wonderful actors in the cast. But, at the end……….I was like "What was the point of that?" It just sat there, no real resolve and a lot of tragedy. I loved the connection to Pioneer Woman, though! When they showed the sign of where they were—I was like "Hey!!! Thats where Ree lives!!!" That peaked my interest even more. But, in the end, I didnt like the movie. I was quite disappointed and thought, "so glad I didnt waste my money and time in the theater to see this" Yuck!
PEGGY C On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:54 am
My husband and I saw this movie in the theatre and it was absolutely wonderful! What a powerful movie and everyone of the actors was fantastic. Yes the language was bad, but I think it played into the scenes well and without it would not seem real. When we left the movie theatre, we went out to eat. We could not stop talking about it and then we just sat there because it took so much out of us, it drained us. Coming from a dysfunctional family but not near as bad as the movie, it was a true and real account of how some families are. Not everyone's family attends church or doesn't use foul language. Bravo to everyone involved in making this movie.
Amanda Susan On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:54 am
I could have done without this movie. This family was dysfunction with a capital D. It just wasn't enjoyable to watch.
Brancy Young On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:56 am
I loved everything about the movie except the story line! Lol! Acting, out of this world! I thought the scene where Meryl told that story to her daughters about when she was a little girl was one of the most flawless scenes in any movie ever, the way she told it, the expressions on her face, she really is beyond perfect.
But although I do not have a problem with intense and raw emotion, when it comes to movies, I guess I want a little bit more of a point, other than just pure exposure…and of course a moral or some sense of satisfaction that justice is done is nice. But plays often leave the audience in turmoil and that is what this movie did to me.
Of course now that I am not looking for a resolve, I plan on watching the movie again for the pure awesome and incredible scene munching!
Jennifer C. On Wednesday, April 16 at 10:59 am
While I will admit the acting was spectacular, I did not like how the ending just left us hanging….I guess I need closure, I need to know what happened to them all…
Joyce T On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:06 am
I saw the movie in the theater with my husband. The acting was wonderful and I still can't believe Meryl didn't win an Oscar for her performance. The movie was so gritty, rough and raw; it's hard to watch at times. But I did like it. I need to watch it again though. Being from Bartlesville I was pre-occupied looking at the scenery and trying to figure out where they filmed. I recognized the highway and town scenes. I've since heard about some friends who are in the backgrounds so need to see it again to look for them! The language and story line are harsh but it's a good movie. So glad to read your thoughts about the movie.
Jillian On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:12 am
I LOVE this movie. When they first said that they were making August into a movie I was apprehensive. As far as plays go a piece revolving around the American family drama has not been this good since Death of Salesman. But then they started announcing the cast and, as you note, what a cast it was! They all put some much soul into their parts and every character is a fully realized, three dimensional person. Julia especially blew me away. In fact I started clapping in the theater during one of her scenes.
I know some people who have seen it are complaining that it was not a comedy… but it is. It is a dark comedy surrounding a really dysfunctional family. In fact, last night I was watching it at home (finally purchased it) and me, my husband, and friend were definitely laughing even harder than we did in the theater. That is part of the beauty of August. It is screwed up, this family is awful to themselves and each other. Almost every storyline can break your heart but almost every character's dialogue is dripping with a dark humor.
Also, I quoted lines from the fish scene not stop for weeks after seeing it.
Tina On Wednesday, April 16 at 12:36 pm
Thanks for you take, Jillian! Our newspaper critic liked the play, but felt the movie's director blew it in terms of tone- he felt it was supposed to be a dark comedy all the way, and that the Streep performance was misguided in being too serious and nuanced. I'm happy to hear from someone with a different perspective who found the dark comedy in the movie as well as the play.
Deb R On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:14 am
I have not seen it yet but will make time to watch this movie after reading some of the comments. I can't wait – what a cast!
Susan Holcomb On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:14 am
Thanks. I am on a "stay-at-home" vacation and now I will go watch it and be ready.
Kirsten On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:20 am
I saw this in the theater with my mom and grandmother. To say it was "heavy" is an understatement, but I was totally blown away by all of the performances. When we walked out of the theater, I looked at them both and thanked them for the normalcy of our family; then we agreed to never serve fish at a family gathering…ever.
Judy A. On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:24 am
I watched in awe as the tragic and heartbreaking events were so beautifully portrayed by the entire cast. I hurt for all of them and made me so thankful for my wonderful dysfunctional family.
Terrylee On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:26 am
I liked it also Ree, but it is a depressing movie because it was so real and I don't think I want to watch it again
Debbie W. On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:32 am
I see EVERYTHING that Meryl Streep is in. My husband and I saw "August" in the theater. Yes, it was raw and gritty and funny and depressing. Meryl, as always, is perfection. I think she should win an award every time she is nominated. I agree that the cast was superb, and I have loved Chris Cooper ever since he was July Johnson in Lonesome Dove. I will watch the movie again.
Linda F in NC On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:38 am
I rented it from RedBox. Watched it twice. First time I wasn't wild about it. Second time I loved it – perhaps I'd gotten used to the language by then.
nichole On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:39 am
I absolutely loved this movie. The cast was perfection and it was incredibly well done. Definitely plan on watching it again.
Kristi Davis On Wednesday, April 16 at 11:42 am
Loved, Loved, Loved this movie and am so glad you wrote about it. I am from the same small town as you and wanted to see it simply because it was filmed in my "back yard". And man, was I blown away. It was so honest and real. I also left thinking my family life wasn't as bad as I had thought. There is a bar by which to measure and not sure that's the one I should look to, but I did leave feeling better. All families are crazy and I guess it is just the degree. The acting was incredible and I also appreciated the fact that they looked like normal people, struggling through a hard time. Good pick on your part, for sure!


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By Kathleen T. RhemAmerican Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Nov. 29, 2005 The decision by U.S. soldiers to burn the bodies of two enemy Afghan fighters was an act of poor judgment, but not a violation of the laws of war, U.S. officials have determined.
Officials also determined that using the act to incite Taliban fighters by announcing it over psychological operations loudspeakers was a separate act. In all, four soldiers have received administrative punishment in the two incidents.
"Based on the criminal investigation, there was no evidence to substantiate the allegation of desecration or any violation of the Law of War," according to an executive summary of the official investigation report from Combined Joint Task Force 76. "However, there was evidence of poor decision-making and judgment, poor reporting and lack of knowledge and respect for local Afghan customs and tradition."
The executive summary was released to the media Nov. 26.
The report refers to an investigation into a widely reported incident Oct. 1 in Gumbad, Afghanistan, in which U.S. soldiers burned the bodies of two enemy fighters and psychological operations forces announced the burning to incite Taliban fighters.
Coalition forces know the location as an area of enemy activity, officials said. A Sept. 30 engagement killed two enemy fighters, and local citizens had not retrieved the bodies 24 hours later. An officer on the ground decided it best to burn the bodies for hygienic reasons.
When apprised of the act, the unit's battalion commander ordered the bodies extinguished. The troops on the ground complied immediately. However, a psychological operations team operating in the area heard of the incident via local tactical radio traffic and broadcasted information about it toward the village and toward local mountains in which enemy forces were suspected of hiding.
As a result of this investigation, four soldiers were reprimanded. Two of them, the PSYOPS specialists, received "nonjudicial punishment," administrative punishment imposed by a commander for wrongdoing that doesn't rise to a criminal level. Such punishment can result in fines, extra duties and short-term confinement, but no details were released on the extent of circumstances in this incident.
"These were all nonjudicial, administrative actions that were taken," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said today.
The investigation found the soldiers decided to burn the bodies believing it was the best course of action and knowing cremation of enemy remains is allowed under the Geneva Conventions. "The soldiers at Gumbad did not have a thorough knowledge of the local Afghan traditions with respect to burial," the report summary states. "This incident was the first time that this unit had killed enemy combatants at close range and had to determine what to do with the remains."
Islamic custom forbids cremation. Task force officials acknowledge the burning was wrong and have ordered training on Afghan sensitivities for all troops in the command, officials said.
Regarding the loudspeaker broadcasts, investigating officials found no evidence that the bodies were burned for the psychological effect. However, the report states, the broadcasts were "in violation of standing policies for the content of loudspeaker messages."
The operator and his supervisor have been reassigned to other duties, officials said.
"CJTF 76 investigations identified two separate but related incidents that highlighted poor judgment and a lack of Afghan cultural knowledge - not Law of War violations," officials said in the investigation report summary. "The judgment errors are serious and have been corrected with administrative action and training."
(American Forces Press Service writer Gerry J. Gilmore contributed to this report.)
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Clergy Shall not Involve Themselves with Gospel Music Teams: Catholicos of the East
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KOTTAYAM: Bull No. 369/2010 issued by the Catholicos of the East Baselios Marthoma Didymus I has strictly forbidden members of the clergy from organizing and holding Gospel conventions and meetings on their own capacity.
The Bull, sent out to all the clergy, is the outcome of a decision taken by the recently concluded Holy Episcopal Synod.
The order clearly states that all clergy in parish services shall not involve themselves with any Gospel Teams or Music Choir Services directly or indirectly, nor shall they give leadership therein.
Such Gospel Teams shall function only with the permission and under control of the Diocesan Metropolitan and they shall not undertake any endeavors outside their respective dioceses.
High pitched voice modulations and songs with faster rhythms can create a hallucination among the faithful and these hallucinations will compel them to run away from realities of life. Such conventions are forbidden, explains the Bull further.
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What about how Apple makes stupendous profits and Amazon barely breaks even? Doesn't that matter?
Apple, Amazon and how they're more alike than apart
Following up on the thesis that Amazon manages profit the way Apple manages supply chain, here's a look at where both companies are more similar than they are different. From Horace Dediu at Asymco:
At an even deeper level, Apple and Amazon are much more alike than they are different. They are both hired for similar jobs (convenience, ease of use and a controlled, predictable environment for average users interacting with technology). They both focus on delighting customers and controlling all the variables which come into contact with that delight. They both have long-term views and are driven by vision rather than competition.
Where they differ is in others' perception of sustainability. Whereas Apple is perpetually given an expected lifespan of less than a decade, Amazon is expected to have an indefinite lifespan. This is because Amazon is seen as having no competition and Apple is seen as having infinite competition.
Dediu also disagrees with both assumptions, and for smart reasons...
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Yes. I read Rene's linked article above your comment and I did not understand that Amazon is basically putting all their profits back into their business, and a huge one it is. I was clearly wrong there.
So there is a major difference between Apple and Amazon, where Amazon reinvests everything perpetually and Apple much more so hoards cash. I would like to see Apple move toward making their own parts and becoming self-sufficient rather than pouring money into their competitor's pockets. I do wonder how much of Samsung's net profits comes directly from Apple. Funny, if one had reason to boycott Samsung would that not also include boycotting Apple?
ugh. yet another blogger spreading the ignorance of Amazon not turning a profit. Crazy how this spreads. There has to be something/one behind this campaign.
The biggest difference between the two companies (in my opinion)? Bezos owns over 20% of the company where nobody associated with Apple holds over 1% It's how Bezos can do things like offer free shipping back when such a thought was crazy.
You're calling Horace Dediu ignorant without providing any reference to prove your claim? Relatively speaking, how much net profit does Amazon generate compared to Apple?
Here is Dediu's thesis; "It's with this thinking about inertial navigation that came to consider the idea that Amazon has a flexible business model which, though unprofitable today, will be profitable some day."
The financial statements to the investors and SEC prove this statement to be false. The proof is on Amazons investors page (pretty easy to find). If his core argument is wrong, how can anything else he says be taken seriously? The guy is just regurgitating ignorance and it's amazing to me.
Comparing profit margins of an internet retailer to a hardware/software manufacturer is a bit silly. Perhaps the next comparison should be with Apple and Ford or Apple and Monsanto?
So in your view if Amazon made $1, they're "profitable" in the sense that Dediu, Siegler, Thompson, Evens, et. al are discussing?
This is straying off topic, but I have major issues with Amazon's "free" shipping. We do have Amazon Prime at my wife's insistence, but I find that almost nothing I want through Amazon has this free shipping which is the major benefit of Prime. That is extremely annoying to me and I also find cheaper prices elsewhere for the same products Amazon lists, and often with free shipping which I always get from places like Apple.
So there's a difference. Amazon sells Prime for free shipping and much of what is offered on their website does not ship freely, and Apple does not advertise free shipping and yet the things I buy from them ship freely. Odd, that.
Dediu based his entire argument on the unsupported assertion that Amazon has a monopoly, when the reality is far more simple. Amazon is seen as less vulnerable because it operates efficiently in markets that have traditionally been less vulnerable to disruption, and operates in more of them. Apple, by contrast, sits on piles of unused cash, nearly all of which is generated directly or indirectly from 4 products.
The iPhone, iPad, and iPod are all monsters, but we have dozens of examples in our lifetime of unassailable positions in consumer electronics disappearing seemingly overnight, from the Sony walkman in the 90s to the Blackberry in the 2000s, and today, I suspect, the Nintendo DS and its ilk. To lose in consumer electronics takes missing a single nimble competitor developing something irresistibly cool in private during one product cycle. Apple, to their credit, has been flawless in this regard for the past 6 years, but that does not mean they are not horribly, horribly vulnerable.
Amazon is not quite as dominant in any single sphere, but they are very strong in markets that require a competitor to build up significant infrastructure in public view. Amazon will see the barbarians coming long before they get to the gates, and can defend accordingly. They can still screw up, of course, but the nature of their businesses lends them an ability to prepare that consumer electronics can never enjoy.
Which brings us to the flip side of the profit equation. Wall Street fundamentally believes money should always be working. Amazon's low net profits are seen as a deliberate choice by Bezos to plow money into expansion and R&D. Not only Amazon's labor always at work, so is all their capital. Investors think a company that focused is unlikely to misstep when they see competitors start to ramp up, and so view Amazon as unlikely to be disrupted anytime soon.
Apple, by contrast, is being punished for their impressive cash hoard, because it signals to those same investors that Cupertino lacks financial vision. The unused capital suggests Apple is *more* ripe for disruption, because they are not utilizing every last weapon at their disposal to prepare against it. It may not be fair, as it is certainly easier to build out retail or cloud infrastructure than to develop new products in a lab, but, fairly or not, when you combine this perception with the fact that 70% of Apple's revenues come from a handful of iOS devices, investors will perpetually see Apple as vulnerable.
That's probably the sanest comment on the issue I've yet seen, and I don't disagree with any of it. Well stated, and thanks!


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This was our first time in Wisconsin, and out of the 8 days here, it rained 6! We stayed this long because we were waiting on a UPS package. While here, we visited Door County & Green Bay. It was a bit of a drive, but we needed a "base camp" for the delivery, so this was it! Staff was great, place was practically empty most of the time. If it hadn't been raining, it really would have been nice. Because of that, even when it wasn't there were little gnats or what-have-you flitting around, so it didn't make for a pleasant time sitting outside (at least for us, although others were). They had a nice pool, mini-golf area & game room for the kids. The town itself is small, but had one nice restaurant and a fun Tug Boat to tour, but other than that, you needed to drive to see. Easy in & out though, and big enough sites. Nothing special, but not bad either. Wouldn't have stayed here more than a couple of days if we hadn't needed to though. - MarieB
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Good quiet campground along peaceful portion of Lake Michigan. They advertise to stay here and visit Door County peninsula to the north, but if you do, you'll get tired of the drive to Door County attractions pretty quick. Sites are level and grass with nicely packed gravel roads. Big rigs will fit, but my site was only 45' long so I had to park the pickup elsewhere. There are some things for kids including the pool, playground, horseshoes, and volleyball. This park used to be a KOA. If sites were longer, I would rate it higher. Verizon Wi-Fi was 4G and ATT signal was 2-3 bars. Friendly staff. - Danno
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This campground is convenient to visit Door County and Green Bay. It appears to be an old KOA. The water pressure is low, trees need pruning in order to put awnings out and scratch big rigs. Laundry room out dated, but functional. Roads are mostly dirt not gravel. Spots are grassy. Picnic tables need paint and fire pits need a grate for safety reasons. The staff is friendly and helpful. Overall, the park is fair, but could just use some TLC. Would stay here again, if in the area. - melnix


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PHOENIX -- Thousands of people rallied outside of the Tent City Jail Saturday to oppose Sheriff Joe Arpaio's jail policies. Many of the same protestors will be protesting again now that the Supreme Court has announced its ruling on Senate Bill 1070.
Caroline Picker with Puente Arizona, an immigrant rights group, said the organization has a rapid response in place once the decision comes down, and will bring protesters to the ICE headquarters in Phoenix.
"Because no matter what comes down to that decision, we know SB 1070 is neither the beginning of what attacks immigrant communities," Picker said.
Arpaio was at Saturday's protests, and has said that his office is ready to deal with any scenario that develops once the high court deliver a ruling.
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A group of paragliders has joined in the search effort to find clues in the case of a 20-year-old nursing student who is believed to have been abducted from her West Tennessee home in April.
Dave Dubin, founder of Parasearchers.com, said a team of about five pilots searched on Sunday and again on Monday morning around the home of Holly Bobo near Parsons, about 100 miles northeast of Memphis.
Dubin told WJHL-TV in Johnson City (http://bit.ly/ngcdts ) that through power paragliding they can get clear aerial views of the woods where Bobo was last seen. Bobo vanished April 13 after her brother said he saw her being led into woods by a man dressed in hunting camouflage.
Dubin said the group plans to resume searching later this week.