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|PGA of America Bestows Membership Upon Late African-American Golf Pioneers Ted Rhodes, John Shippen and Bill Spiller; Grants Honorary Membership to Joe Louis
|Ted Rhodes, John Shippen, Bill Spiller and Joe Louis Barrow Sr. will be honored at the 93rd PGA Annual Meeting in November in New Orleans.
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – The PGA of America has bestowed posthumous membership upon three African-American golf pioneers – Ted Rhodes, John Shippen and Bill Spiller – who were denied the opportunity to become PGA members during their professional careers. The PGA also has granted posthumous honorary membership to Joe Louis Barrow Sr. – better known as Joe Louis – the legendary world heavyweight boxing champion who became an advocate for diversity in golf.
The four will be honored at the 93rd PGA Annual Meeting in November in New Orleans. Earlier this summer, the PGA of America Board of Directors voted unanimously to recognize Rhodes, Shippen, Spiller and Louis, each of whom will be represented by a family member in New Orleans.
From 1934 to 1961, The PGA of America's "Caucasian-only clause" was a part of the Association's by-laws and prevented non-whites from membership. The clause was removed at the 1961 PGA Annual Meeting.
"The PGA of America believes these men, but for the color of their skin, would have been PGA members who play the game, teach the game and promote the game," said PGA of America President Jim Remy. "The PGA of America recognizes the importance of honoring these gentlemen with their rightful place in golf history.
"We are pleased that the descendants of these four great Americans have accepted and embraced our Association's sincere efforts to recognize Ted Rhodes, John Shippen and Bill Spiller as PGA members, and Joe Louis as an Honorary Member."
The new PGA of America members at closer glance:
JOHN MATTHEW SHIPPEN JR. was believed to be the first American-born golf professional. He trained for his profession at Shinnecock Hills in Long Island, N.Y., and became an accomplished player, finishing fifth in the second U.S. Open, conducted in 1896 at Shinnecock Hills.
Born Dec. 5, 1879, in Washington, D.C., Shippen was the fourth of nine children of John Sr. and Eliza Spotswood Shippen. John Shippen Jr. became both a fine caddie and an accomplished golfer under the tutelage of Shinnecock Hills' first home professional, Scotsman Willie Dunn. At the age of 16, Shippen earned an assistant professional post where he began giving lessons to some of the club members. With the 1896 U.S. Open to be contested at Shinnecock Hills, Shippen entered the championship over the protests from several of the English and Scottish professionals in the field.
USGA President Theodore Havemeyer stepped in to allow Shippen and his friend, Shinnecock Indian Oscar Bunn, to compete. Shippen demonstrated his skill by carding a 78 in the first round, leaving him in a tie for the lead before finishing fifth.
In 1900, Shippen was named a greens keeper at the Marine and Field Club in Brooklyn, N.Y., and competed that year in the U.S. Open, finishing tied for 25th. He served as a golf professional at several clubs, including the famed Aronimink Golf Club in Newtown Square, Pa., with his last stop at the Shady Rest Golf Course in Scotch Plains, N.J., in 1924. He remained there until his retirement in 1960.
Shippen competed in six U. S. Opens, the last in 1913. Shippen died in 1968 at age 89. He is survived by his grandson, Hanno Shippen Smith, who resides in Silver Spring, Md.
THEODORE "TED" RHODES was born to Frank and Della Anderson Rhodes in Nashville on Nov. 9, 1913, and is the first African American touring professional golfer.
As a teenager, Rhodes worked as a caddie at Nashville's Belle Meade Country Club. The young man, nicknamed "Rags" because of his "neat and flashy dress style," began playing the game as a teenager. After World War II and a stint in the Navy, Rhodes was befriended by entertainer Billy Eckstein and heavyweight boxing champion Joe Louis. With Louis as his sponsor, Rhodes worked on his game under the guidance of Ray Mangrum, brother of past Ryder Cup Team member and 1946 U.S. Open Champion Lloyd Mangrum.
Between 1946 and 1947, Rhodes won six consecutive tournaments sponsored by the United States Colored Golf Association (later known as the United Golf Association, UGA). The following year, Rhodes enjoyed another outstanding season, winning the first of three consecutive titles in the Negro National Open (1949, 1950, 1951 and 1957), the UGA's biggest championship. He was invited to compete in the Phoenix Open in 1950 and made the cut. But it was his challenge to The PGA's refusal to let him and fellow African American professional Bill Spiller compete in the Richmond Open in 1948 which began a series of legal and social challenges which ultimately led to the dismissal of the exclusionary clause of The PGA.
Rhodes, who died in 1969, is survived by two daughters, Debbie Rhodes, of Las Vegas, and Peggy Rhodes-White, of Chicago.
BILL SPILLER was born in 1913 in Tishomingo, Okla., didn't seriously take up the game of golf until he was in his 30s, but quickly became one of the top golfers in Southern California.
By the mid-1940s, Spiller had won several black amateur tournaments in Southern California. He competed against the best African-American players in the Joe Louis Invitational at Rackham Golf Club in Detroit and the nation's best professionals in the Los Angeles Open and Tam O'Shanter in Chicago, two PGA events open to blacks.
In 1947, Spiller turned professional and toured the United Golf Association with Louis, among others. Seeking to play the PGA circuit, Spiller competed in the1948 Los Angeles Open, one of two PGA events open to African-Americans. He finished in the top 60, making him eligible for the next PGA tournament, the Richmond Open, outside Oakland. Spiller, along with Rhodes, was turned away by PGA officials at the Richmond Open. He subsequently joined Rhodes in an effort to overturn the PGA's Caucasian-only requirement.
Spiller played infrequently in PGA events, with his best finish 14th place in the Labatt Open in Canada. He also gave golf lessons and caddied at Hillcrest Country Club in Los Angeles.
Spiller died in 1988, at age 75. He is survived by a son, Bill Spiller Jr., of Redondo Beach, Calif.; and a daughter, Pamela Stewart, of Cedar Park, Texas.
The new PGA of America honorary member at closer glance:
JOE LOUIS (Barrow Sr.) Nicknamed "The Brown Bomber," Joe Louis Barrow was born May 13, 1914, in Detroit, Mich., and is considered one of the greatest boxing champions in history. Competing under the name Joe Louis, he held the world heavyweight title for over 11 years, recording 25 successful title defenses.
Louis became a major supporter of the United Golf Association, the black organization that conducted tournaments across the country. He competed in UGA events as an amateur, and in 1941, at Rackham, a public course in Detroit, he sponsored his own tournament, the Joe Louis Open. He donated the $1,000 purse, and also paid the entry fees and transportation costs for golfers who otherwise might not have been able to play.
Louis became an accomplished amateur player, going on to win the amateur division of the National, or "Negro National," the centerpiece of the UGA schedule, in 1951.
In 1952, Louis was invited by sponsors to play in the San Diego Open, a PGA event, but was denied entry. The PGA eventually permitted Louis to play in the San Diego Open as an exempt amateur.
Louis leveraged his celebrity to raise awareness of the racial inequities of professional golf and quietly provided financial and moral support for Spiller, Ted Rhodes and other African-American professionals. The attention that the cause received led to the eventual removal in 1961 of the Caucasian-only clause.
Louis, who died in 1981, is survived by his son, Joe Louis Barrow Jr. of Jacksonville, Fla., the chief executive officer of The First Tee, along with his daughter, Jacqueline, and adopted children John, Joyce and Janet Barrow.
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By creating and delivering dramatic world-class championships and exciting and enjoyable golf promotions that are viewed as the best of their class in the golf industry, The PGA of America elevates the public's interest in the game, the desire to play more golf, and ensures accessibility to the game for everyone, everywhere. The PGA of America brand represents the very best in golf.


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The "unbreakable alliance," which will be confirmed by the upcoming visit of President Barak Obama to Israel, will disqualify the United States as an honest broker of peace in the Arab
- Israeli conflict in Palestine, a Palestinian veteran peace negotiator says.
This "unbreakable alliance" will doom whatever hopes remain during Obama's visit for the revival of the U.S. - sponsored deadlocked
"peace process," on the resumption of which depends the very survival of Palestinian President Mahmoud
Abbas' leadership, and explains as well the Palestinian frustration, low expectations, unenthusiastic welcome and the absence of celebrations for their most cherished among world celebrities, in a stark contrast to the euphoria that is sweeping Israel in waiting for what the U.S. and Israeli officials are describing as an
"historic" visit.
On February 19, the Israeli Prime Minister's Office released the official blue, red and white logo that will be on all documents and signs during
Obama's visit late in March. The logo shows the words "Unbreakable Alliance" written in English and Hebrew under a combined Israeli and U.S. flags.
During his visit, Obama will become the first ever serving U.S. president to receive
Israel's presidential medal to honor the fact that he has "established the closest working military and intelligence relationship with Israel in the country's history: Joint exercises and training, increased security assistance every year, unprecedented advanced technology transfers, doubling of funding for Israel's missile defense system, and assistance in funding for the Iron Dome
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Speaking exclusively to RFI Hanan Ashrawi, the Palestinian veteran peace negotiator and member of the executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO),
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"have just managed to buy more time for Israel" to "create facts on the (Israeli
- occupied Palestinian) ground."
"Our experience has been really tragic with this American administration," which
"started with such high hopes and tremendous promises," but "they backed down so quickly it was
incredible," she added, to conclude: "The U.S. has disqualified itself as a peace
Therefore, "there are no plans to celebrate" Obama's visit to Ramallah, because "they
haven't forgotten the part he played" in aborting the PLO's efforts in 2011 to win the United
Nations' recognition of Palestine statehood as a full member and in opposing its UN recognition as a non
- member observer state the next year, according to Shlomi Eldar in Al-Monitor on February 14. Still, to make a bad situation worse, Obama will convey the same message to Abbas during his upcoming visit, because
"our position has not changed" neither to Palestinian statehood nor to Palestinian national reconciliation according to U.S. State Department spokeswoman Olivia Nuland on February 19.
Obama will visit on the backdrop of a two -year old simmering Palestinian - U.S. political crisis, which potentially could explode in the aftermath of his visit.
Nicola Nasser is a veteran Arab journalist based in Bir Zeit, West Bank of the Israeli-occupied Palestinian
can be contacted at nassernicolaymail.com.
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"..there has always been a flamboyant, sartorial element to Ferrell's comedy.."
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by Todd McCarthy [Hollywood Reporter]
"..the film should have been an SNL skit.."
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"..sound like a ridiculous Mexican soap opera? That's the point.."
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"..rather down telenovela.."
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"..inevitably, people are comparing "Casa de Mi Padre" to "Death Proof," the fake '70s exploitation flick that was Quentin Tarantino's half of "Grindhouse.".."
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"..in fact, a deliberately cheesy movie. But the laughs are missing in action.."
by Marshall Fine [Hollywood & Fine]
"..for one single scene we could see the remnants of a less bankrupt idea take shape and die quickly.."
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"..for fans of Ferrell and inventive parodies, Casa de mi Padre is comic oro.."
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"..considerably less entertaining are the draggy drug-war plot and the characters who populate it.."
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DOVER, N.H. – The University of New Hampshire swimming & diving team joined others in the Seacoast community, raising money for six-year old Soren in his battle with cancer at the Jenny Thompson Pool on Sunday, Sept. 8.
A swimmer for Seacoast, Soren was diagnosed with Burkitt's Lymphoma, a form of blood cancer in July. The mother, Erika Cooper, is the aquatics director at UNH, while her husband Vaughn works as a professor in the department of Molecular, Cellular, and Biomedical Sciences at UNH as well. Soren will under go treatment at Boston Children's Hospital.
To help deflate the costs of treatment, transportation, food and lodging, members of the Seacoast Swimming Community organized the event. Nicole Benson, a former assistant coach of current head coach Josh Willman, is one of the chief organizers of the event.
In addition to the UNH swimmers, there were over 200 participants during Sunday's event. Those teams, which reached out as far as Florida, swam approximately 20,000 meters for the cause.
After hearing about Soren's cancer diagnosis, "I had a pit in my stomach because I have children, too," said Benson, who has four children of her own.
Over 200 participants swam for 1,019,975 meters - translating to approximately 634 miles - and fundraised $18,157 for Soren and the Cooper family.
"One Million Meters For Soren" is also offering a virtual component to the fundraiser. Participants can go to a local swimming pool, swim as long as they want, and then take a picture of themselves with a piece of paper or whiteboard, with their names, how far they swam and an inspirational message for Soren. Pictures can be e-mailed to firstname.lastname@example.com.
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We have an ADHD son who attends MetWest High School in Oakland. It is an Oakland public school but very different from any other Oakland school. It's mantra is ''real world learning.'' All students work at an internship of their choosing every Tuesday and Thursday. They attend school on M-W-Fri. It is a very small school - 2 classes per grade, each class no more than 20 students. Enlish and social studies are taught as an integrated block by an Advisor. The Advisor knows every kid and stays on top of each and every one of them. The Advisor stays with the same group of kids for two years. Reading and writing demands are heavy and were very worrisome to us because writing was our son's greatest weaknesses. He does have a private tutor who along with his motivation to be at this school - because he loves his internship - has greatly helped him develop as a writer. Each quarter, each student must demonstrate their learning through an exhibition, which is an oral presentation accompanied by some type of visual presentation, based on very specific guidelines. Parents are required to attend 2 of the 4 exhibitions each year. The next exhibitions are the week of March 4 - 8. You would be welcome to attend if you made arrangements in advance. They do have space for and are looking for more juniors. A number of kids left last year due to a very bad teacher, who is no longer there. The school is very much a college prep program and teaches the kids a lot about how to apply to college and for financial aid. The school's phone number is 510 451 5902. Check out these links: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=7475688 OR http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/23/met-west/ OR http://oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-midwest-high-school-students-learn-through-internships Write back if you want more info and we can arrange to talk. momofjesse
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Each student has to do a project that is related to their internship. There are academic classes as well, but much smaller than at a conventional high school -- for example, geometry was a ''big'' class with 24 students -- the whole school only has about 150 students. Much of the students' time is spent in an advisory group in which they study humanities and also work on their internship projects. Their advisor is their teacher, counselor, internship liaison, and at times, nanny and enforcer. The staff is amazing, so dedicated and resourceful, and they really walk the walk about getting students to follow through and be responsible. Our daughter has ADHD and she still struggles, but it is like night and day to last year when she was in a downward spiral at a conventional high school and we couldn't get anyone to pay attention. And even when they did, no one seemed to know what to do about it. MetWest Mom
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Barclays PIN Sentry Disaster
Posted by Simon Perry on 28 November 2007 at 2:56 pm | Tagged as: Business, Payments systems, Security, UK
Barclays Bank have cut off some of their business customers from making payments to new suppliers, by forcing them to use PIN Sentry hardware that they don't yet have.
The PIN Sentry is Barclays attempt to stop their customers accounts being hacked and having payment sent to fraudulent accounts. Something that would appear to be a good idea … if their current customers had the device in their hands and were able to use it.
Barclays Business customers that try to pay a new supplier using the online payment system will be stopped in their tracks if they don't have a PIN sentry in their hands, as the online method now insists on its use.
How did this come to be?
We spoke to Barclays who told us that they started sending out the PIN Sentry devices, in August, to customers who 'had a habit of paying new suppliers.'
Despite their weird turn of phrase, we pointed out to Barclays, that business is about expanding – both your customers and suppliers – hence every business banking customer is likely to be needing this.
Their suggestions for a fix was to request a PIN Sentry – and wait for five days for it to arrive. Not quite the point of online banking isn't it?
Wouldn't it have made a lot more sense to write to business customers asking them if they wanted or needed one?
The PR and reality don't match
Prior to speaking to the press office, we spoke to the Barclays support centre and heard that they'd been having lots of people contacting them, and had "been talking to people all week about it, since it was introduced."
This was borne out by finding out that there was a 20 minute queue to speak to the online banking telephone support and the advice that even if we got through they probably wouldn't be able to help.
Quite rightly, they also commented that they "understood it was extremely inconvenient," to not be able to pay new suppliers.
Sadly the story from Barclays press office doesn't tie up with discussion that we'd had with those working at the Barclays call centre.
The over-aggressive PR at Barclays, Elizabeth Holloway, did no good for their cause when she continually insisted that everyone who needed one of the PIN Sentry's had already received it. We repeated that this clearly wasn't the case we hadn't had one as we were left being unable to pay our suppliers
When we asked how many people had had similar problems, the supercilious PR told us that SHE didn't work on telephone support, so SHE had no idea.
The problems don't end there
Not only do you need to have a PIN Sentry with you when you want to online bank, but you'll also need a new debit card sent out to you to work with the machine.
Many people are not in receipt of those yet, but some have received them without knowing why to some annoyance.
Truth is stronger than Fiction
Hey Barclays, insisting that something is the case don't make it so.
If you're going to force customers to use a device to pay their money to a third party that they choose, the best idea is to distribute the devices that they are being forced to use to them in advance of making them have to use it.
PIN Sentry photo source: Kai Hendry
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on 01 Dec 2007 at 3:47 pm 1froogle man
Has anyone seen any customer reseach from Barclays suggesting this pin sentry was a good Idea and what customers wanted – I asked but they fobbed me off saying it was to 'improve security'.
I think it is rubbish as it totally limits the flexibility of online banking – before all you needed was to remember your online codes – more than sufficient- now you have to have also your card and pin reader with you – what if you are on holiday and your card or reader gets stolen? I say again, it is total rubbish.
I am actually fuming that they think this is a good idea.
on 05 Dec 2007 at 10:41 am 2D.B
This PinSentry thing is stupid. The requirements used to verify a login on the old system were fine.
To introduce a device which is meant to be safer and not inform the average user of this by phone, email or letter is bad.
I tried to make a payment to a friend but couldn't, the webpage then said i had to sign up to receive the reader, which i did and then in small print.."takes up to 7 days to arrive."
Incidently, i tried the reader of the first time today, and low and behold it didn't work. :(
on 05 Dec 2007 at 11:25 am 3Chris Hogan
I have got my PIN Sentry, but the 1st time I went to make a new payment it asked me did I want to upgrade to PIN Sentry – since I couldn't pay without it I said yes – and it requested another card reader & refused to make my payment for the next 72 hours.
I'm changing bank…
on 06 Dec 2007 at 10:20 am 4Simon Perry
Lots of people appear to have the same view on this – so it would be interesting to find out how much research Barclays did before going ahead with this.
Our PIN Sentry has arrived now, so it will be interesting to find out how easy it is to use.
on 06 Dec 2007 at 2:40 pm 5Shane McCracken
I received the PIN Sentry reader a few weeks ago and of course the online banking site rejected my use of it saying my details didn't match their records. I wonder if this is related to new debit card issue which of course I haven't received nor been told about.
Worst of all is that my bank manager is not helping one little bit.
on 06 Dec 2007 at 7:36 pm 6Shane McCracken
I mentioned the building buzz about this story to my bank manager and miraculously he was able to circumvent the call centre and sort the problem within an hour!
It now works but I certainly feel it is less secure that the previous system. With the number of times you have to enter it when buying things I feel my PIN number is far less secure than my online password.
I tried to make a simple payment ant the weekend, and the prompt to sign up for the PINSentry system was the first I'd heard of it, talking to a guy I know it seems RBS has had the same system in place for 6 months or so too, anyone know which banks aren't going to adopt this ridiculous system so I know who to transfer all of my banking to?
on 12 Dec 2007 at 8:50 pm 8The Reaper
I waited just over a week for the PIn sentry device to arrive. Once it did I read the set up instructions and logged on to make a payment – well so I thought :-(
Even though I followed the instructions by the book( literally) it did not recognise the 8 digit number and decided that my details do not match and proceeded to close my online account for security reasons.
I concede that maybe I should have not attempted the third log in attempt but the system clearly asked me to input the 8 digit number which I did, I can't realy be held accountable for a flawed system or one with so many glitches.
So now I can't log into online banking I have tried calling them at numerous times during the day and this evening. In fact even at 20.40 they are still receiving a large amount of calls and I really can't be bothered to pay 4p a minute plus a 6p connection charge to wait on the phone for half an hour. I do not see why I should be penalised for another Barclays mess.
After Christmas I shall move to another bank, maybe HSBC? As I really can't be bothered with Barclays anymore, they just blithely stumble from one cock up to another.
on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:37 am 9charlie
I am curious how technically the Barclays PIN Sentry 2FA system works exactly.
I have a theory, which is only that, as follows –
The PIN Sentry generates a random code from x-million possibilites derived from part of your card number (last 4 digits?) and your PIN.
Once the code is input into the Barclays webpage the Barclays system runs your card numbers last 4 digits and PIN (which it both knows anyway) against the same algorithm that the PIN Sentry uses to generate codes.
This produces all the x-million possible codes than your PIN Senrty could produce.
If the random PIN Sentry code you submitted to the Barclays website matches one of the codes that the Barclays system itself generates, with your information, the resulting code is then checked against an 'already used' list of codes (from your previous logins). If there is no match in the 'already used' list then authentication to the Barclays website is allowed and you can log in.
Therefore you cannot use a code twice.
So if by chance (a very slim chance, probably slimmer than being eaten alive by a Great White Shark in Trafalgar Square) the PIN sentry does throw up the same code twice then you just will not be able to login with that code.
on 17 Dec 2007 at 10:35 am 10Simon Perry
@charlie – could be, but they probably would be more secur than that. Challenge/response system often work on the time of day too, meaning the key is only kept 'alive' for a short period, around the time of request. Not sure is that is the case here though.
@The Reaper – I think lots of people will be doing the same as you and moving on to another Bank – and who can blame them.
@Adam – Have you seen any good/bad feedback around the RBS system?
@Shane McCracken – Glad you got sorted in the end, but slightly amazed that your bank manager could circumvent the problem.
Apparently at RBS you don't need to use it to log into internet banking, just to set up new payments etc, so not as bad as the Barclays one, but they've still said it's intensely irritating.
I've already begun the move to First Direct myself, I asked if they were going to be instituting a PINSentry system in the immediate future, and the response was 'a what now?' which I know is no guarantee, but I took as a good sign.
Only problem is First Direct are starting to charge a monthly fee for all of their bank accounts, unless you have other accounts with them (savings, credit card etc) in which case you're exempt from the monthly fees.
on 19 Dec 2007 at 10:17 am 12Dave
The PIN Sentry system Barclays have introduced is a complete and utter joke, and that is coming from a member of staff. We are holding for 20+ minutes to the Online Banking help desk trying to get the system resolved for our customers but to little or no avail.
The facts are now that, if you want to make a new 3rd party payment you must use PIN Sentry. Previously you were able to "opt-out" of the system and revert back to the old type of Online Banking. As of the 26/11/07 this is not available as an option. This is even more frustrating for the majority of customers as previously it was only "Premier" customers who could not opt out. Now, no-one can.
The PIN Sentry system is also highlighting the fact that customers have multiple "CIS" numbers (customer record numbers to the layman) – one CIS number for their current, one for their savings etc under the names of, for example Mr John Smith and Mr John James Smith. The two Mr Smiths are the same person but the PIN Sentry system doesn't recognise that as so and either won't let you log on, or it will let you log on and have of your accounts drop off the screen. Once this has been done online it also makes the accounts drop off the software that advisors use in the call centres so they are none the wiser what is going on. To merge these CIS numbers can take up to 2 weeks depending on the complexity of the procedure.
It seems that the whole system has been rolled out without consultation, without testing, without researching the impact on customers and general disregard to how Barclays customer want to do their banking. It just isn't practical to carry the card reader around with you at all times when you've got your wallet, keys, mobile/PDA and whatever else. Just another Barclays cock-up.
on 20 Dec 2007 at 3:16 am 13Callum Scott
I hate Barclays now!
I was from the UK, i moved to New Zealand for six months and then I am going to Vietnam for six months. I had to pay for the organization arranging my trip and when I went to do it, up came the message saying we have now sent you a pinsentry to your home in the UK.
Well thanks a lot! Now they say I will need that to login soon as well so I won't have any access to my money whilst I am away.
I am leaving Barclays but I don't know if i can get an account with another UK bank whilst I am not in the country.
Total ridiculousness.
on 26 Dec 2007 at 11:53 pm 14EddyJawed
It wouldn't have been so bad if you just get access to your bank account and view your balance without using this decreped thing!
I don't understand – if I'm just viewing my balance to check for fraudulent activity especially if I'm abroad – and its password protected the old way – then what the is the security issue in that?
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on 31 Dec 2007 at 4:16 am 16small business
I've got free banking with barclays for 12 months, if they haven't sorted out this fiasco by the time the contract ends, I'm switching to another bank. It's frustatingly inconvenient to log in like this. I misplaced my pin reader the other day and couldn't even view my balance. It's a shambles of a system. When are banks going to get a grip?
on 01 Jan 2008 at 9:52 am 17John
I hate pin sentry, I say it again, I hate it. Why do I need it just to access my account. I now visit my account less than I should and this cannot continue.
I have tried to live with it for a month or 2 but am getting more annoyed. My new years resoluiton is to move account, I have spoken to Barclays and they think it is great. What a joke. I suggested they read the net and see the response form ral customers. Its a pain but after 20 years I have no choice to omve account.
on 08 Jan 2008 at 2:26 pm 18Stephen
Have not been inside a Barclays Branch in 10 years, so my first reaction was great, increased security however on reflection there is little added security when compared to the online security already provided by Barclays which uses a combination of keyboard, mouse activity and SSL encryption. Used in conjuction with a good firewall, antivirus & Spam filtering I would doubt if there are any benefits attached to the average consumer.
If the introduction of Pin sentry is a reaction to Barclays concern to customers who respond to a phishing email requesting bank details and password then its appaling that Barclays reacts due to the lack of computer awareness by a minority of customers and introduce something that effectively reduces flexible secure mobile banking. Barclays should have spent the time, energy & resources to educate and inform.
I am all for change and increased security, however the choice of a device that is 2 times larger and 3 times chunkier than some of its competitors which makes portability an issue and renders the device open to damage as you sling it in the suitcase rather than wallet. So Barclays please if you want increased security spend some more money on a modern credit card style pinsentry or USB card reader.
on 08 Jan 2008 at 2:48 pm 19Stephen
One further comment, the pinsentry is not date or time sensitive, so you can print out in advance several codes and carry this with you to allow flexible mobile banking and leave the pinsentry at home. Barclays encourage customers to reduce their level of security !
on 13 Jan 2008 at 12:08 am 20Timothy Ross
A Barclays customer for over 40 years, as soon as I was told they would cut off my online (and only) access to my funds if my debit card and Pin Sentry does not arrive within 5 days, I started enquiries with other banks about opening accounts and will move just as soon as transfer of direct debits, interest payments, &c. is arranged.
I have been trying for over six months to get Barclays to send me a debit card application form. 19 e-mails, letters and expensive international phone calls later, despite the repeated promises that "It is on it's way", "It will be posted this afternoon", and "It is being sent out at the same time as this letter", I have still not received the form. It is no longer possible to bank with Barclays.
on 13 Jan 2008 at 3:03 pm 21Tez
I too have been forced to use one and my overall concern is that eventually the keys will be worn as I type the same pin number over and over again. Should this fall into the wrong hands, eg, I get mugged and the thieves take the pin sentry and the card, they see the worn keys, and keep trying different combinations until the reader says pin correct and off to the shops they go.
Ultimately if this thing becomes a pain in the backside I will move away from Barclays and find another bank that has a simple log in
on 14 Jan 2008 at 10:59 am 22Simon Perry
@Stephen – Is the PIN really not time sensitive? It would be an amazing oversight not to include that. I've just used the PIN sentry a couple of times and it gave a different number each time, so it's possible that the time of use is part of the code generation.
Of course it's quite another matter if the server end doesn't pay attention to the time the code was generated, thus allowing any code that has been created no matter how long ago.
Anyone done any experiments of using a code that was generated some time ago, using them much later?
@Timothy Ross – A sad tale Timothy. It does look like Barclays are losing a considerable number of customers over this.
@Tez – Good point! That wouldn't exactly aid security would it!? I suppose Barclays would excuse themselves by trying to shift the issue to the customer (again?) by suggesting that the PIN is changed regularly.
on 14 Jan 2008 at 11:56 am 23Stephen
@Simon, its not time sensitive. For logging on, reviewing balances and transferring or paying bills already setup you can note down a few CODES put them on your mobile/laptop [encrypted of course] for future use[only once]. For NEW payment references you need the pinsentry to enter transaction account, the amount and then the pinsentry algorithem calculates a 8 digit code, at no point is there a reference to time.
on 14 Jan 2008 at 12:01 pm 24Stephen
@simon, yes I generated codes on the 8th Jan and used them today [14th Jan] to check my balances and pay some utility bills already set up some time ago.
on 15 Jan 2008 at 1:04 pm 25Simon Perry
@Stephen – Thanks for the background on that.
on 23 Jan 2008 at 12:46 pm 26Eddy Jawed
Another probably major point of negatiVity to mention on this daft card reader thingy is –
After using the card reader a few times I've realised I have a habit of forgetting and leaving my debit card inside it when I'm at home, instead of placing it back in my wallet.
Its happened to me a few times now where I've realised i have 'lost' my debit card only to work out half an hour later that I may have left it slotted into the card reader at home and forgot to replace it back in my wallet.
Can't wait until some smart ass hacks into this stupid thing making thier whole expensive new venture completely futile.
on 23 Jan 2008 at 8:12 pm 27John
Have posted before but as Barclays don't seem interested in getting rid of this piece of rubbish I have set in motion steps to move my account to First Direct. Its basically all I can do. With Pin SEntry I do not check my current account as often as I should and that is not good, changing bank is all I can do.
Barclays are just so stupid for bringing this in. Some muppet sits in his white ivory tower thinking he is grat but all they have done is alienate thousand's of customers.
on 24 Jan 2008 at 5:53 pm 28Martin
I wonder how long Pin sentry would last if Barclays got inundated with requests from angry customers for free replacement units for ones that were "accidently" broken, for example that LCD display is quite fragile ;-) Also are they going to provide free replacement batteries for the units? Perhaps customers should start asking Barclays for a spare set ready for when the current ones run out.
on 23 Feb 2008 at 8:13 am 29J
Although we have had this impracticle pin sentry forced on us from Barclays we are now going to have it forced on to us by Nationwide. How many others are going to join this unfortunate bandwagon?
on 05 Mar 2008 at 11:13 pm 30Pete
Had to move to Pin Sentry a couple of weeks back. At no time did I see any instructions about needing a new card to use with it, so I was confused when the PIN number for the new card arrived before the card… (Even more confused, because a few weeks earlier, for un-related reasons, I had asked for, and received, a new card – so 2 new cards in two weeks…)
Repeatedly tried to use the first new (ie old) card with the PS – got locked out. Phoned for help. – Was told I needed to wait to use the new card. Asked for them to reset the on-line system so I could use it when the new new card arrived. –
"We need you to use your "phone banking" credentials to establish that you are who you say you are".
"But I haven't used phone banking for 5 years – I can't remember any of the codes".
"We can't help – phone up to get your phone banking credentials reset so you can then use them to get your on-line access restored…"
Waited 3 days, got the new card, phone again, got a different Muppet who reset the on-line stuff immediately – and then at least two log-on attempts failed, while Muppet 2 talked me through logging in again (PhD in Quantum Mechanics and 30 years in IT). Eventually got in, but I swear he did something between log-in attempts, as entries were digit-perfect in both the early attempts.
After 30+ years with them I'm leaving Barclays as soon as.
Barclays – if you're reading this – your hubris is breathtaking and you deserve to get royally stuffed over this.
on 07 Mar 2008 at 6:02 pm 31Toby
@Martin – no I'm sure I read there would be a charge for replacing broken machines.
But if you were to suggest that it never arrived in the post, they might be kind enough to send you another ;)
on 11 Mar 2008 at 12:20 pm 32Ann-Marie
I am absolutely seething and spitting MAD with Barclays!!
I have been a customer for 15 years, i'm not an old geezer who doesn't like or understand online banking, i'm 29 & have used online banking ever since it came into being. And yet this piece of plastic crap 'PINsentry' is actually prompting me to leave Barclays as a result of the horrendous customer experience i now have.
I find it unrealistic in the extreme that i should be expected to carry this plastic calculator toy with me wherever i go, in order to online bank or make a transaction. And even when i do have it, it's such an irritating drawn-out process it makes my blood boil before i'm even into my account! Once in, it feels like to undertake the slightest 'normal' banking procedure, I now must repeat this drawn-out log-in process with the plastic crap machine. Aaaaaargghhhh!!!
I've just got off the phone to the customer service numpties for the second time in 2 days, trying to feed back to them that this PINsentry doesn't work for me as a customer experience. But they absoultely can not function beyond the boundaries of their pre-planned cue cards, and cannot put me thorugh to anyone whose job it may be to have this sort of feedback given to them. Grrrrrrr.
And yes, you can opt out – but – *hmmm, here's where they've got you by the balls* – yes, you can't actually make any payments to new people.
Barclays are absoutely astounding in their utter disregard for any sort of easy, pleasant customer experience. I feel utterly disenfranchised as a customer and after i've vented my spleen here, i'm off to the nearest branch to close my account.
Yes, i feel that bloody strongly about it.
on 11 Mar 2008 at 4:11 pm 33John
Closed my account and moved to Frist Direct. Only way I could get to hurt Barclays for this piece of cr@p
on 27 Oct 2009 at 11:55 am 34John
Barclays say:
"However, if you use Barclays Online Banking outside the UK you do so at your own risk as it may constitute an offence in that country. "
They don't tell us which ones. How very helpful!
on 16 Feb 2010 at 6:59 am 35Clare
I live overseas and rely heavily on my UK Barclays account. Last night I needed to make an urgent payment on line and was told i could not do it without this pin sentry rubbish. So, obviously I ordered one but it has defeated the entire point of online banking for me.
Seriously…WHY WHY WHY????? This is the worst and most impractical idea ever and has transformed something which (I assume) was intended to make life easier into a ridiculously inconvenient mission.
on 05 Jun 2010 at 10:27 am 36traveller45
I have a similar device from ABN AMBRO in Holland. I don't have to remember all the silly codes that Barclays insist I have to remember (write) like passcode, membership number nor memorable word. If Barclays works the same way then I am happy yto use it. The only downside about the device is that one has to carry it around with oneself. An inconvenience if one travels a lot, which I do. However ABN AMBRO's customer service a millenia ahead of Barclays in the UK. CS for Barlcays offshore is pretty good, and unlike the UK version, one can make international SWIFT/ABA/IBAN payments in any currency around the world online. They could have integrated the device into the debit card and used two different PINs : one for device and one for ATM/merchant payments.
on 05 Jun 2010 at 10:28 am 37traveller123
I have a similar device from ABN AMBRO in Holland. I don't have to remember all the silly codes that Barclays insist I have to remember (write) like passcode, membership number nor memorable word. If Barclays works the same way then I am happy yto use it. The only downside about the device is that one has to carry it around with oneself. An inconvenience if one travels a lot, which I do. However ABN AMBRO's customer service a millenia ahead of Barclays in the UK. CS for Barlcays offshore is pretty good, and unlike the UK version, one can make international SWIFT/ABA/IBAN payments in any currency around the world online. They could have integrated the device into the debit card and used two different PINs : one for device and one for ATM/merchant payments.
on 15 Jun 2010 at 11:51 am 38Paula
This is a ridiculous idea!
I have my log in details memorised so that I can make payments to whoever I want, whenever I want and to check my accounts wherever I am. Now I have to make sure I have my card with me AND this stupid little machine! Seriously Barclays, you really should have thought this one through properly and actually ASKED your customers if they wanted it first.
on 20 Jun 2010 at 12:04 pm 39simon watts
I tried the Pinsentry Barclays sent me. Followed the instructions and successfully did a transfer after about ten minutes. However the next time I wanted to use I had forgotten the basic rules and it locked me out. I rang them and they told me I had to go to a cash machine to change things. That was it! I am now a customer of HSBC and everything is nice and user friendly. I thought Barclays Pinsentry was dreadful and after 22 years I finally moved banks which proved to be far easier than using the Barclays pinsentry.
on 02 Aug 2010 at 8:57 pm 40Rich
haha – you lot make me laugh. You complain about the inconvenience of protection and yet you will cry and complain more when you are a victim of cyber crime.
I sleep better at night knowing this security is in place protecting my few assets.
Keep it in your hand bag or backpack and you'll always be in a good place. I do. Its about being organised.
It's cheaper for Barclays to lose a small element of its customer base and save millions in payouts for cyber crime. And to be honest as some of you leave, several others will be signing up purely for the security functionality of barclays online banking and if you read up on ratings Barclays is at the top of the retail banking sector for security.
Wise up to security before complacency gets the better of you and the cyber criminals get the better of your cash!


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"We're glad the issue is being raised, but we're not clear that the drinking age is the core problem," said Chris Kimball, president of California Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks. "It's a pretty complicated issue."
More than 100 college presidents nationwide, many from prestigious schools, have called for a debate over lowering the drinking age to 18, saying it would discourage binge drinking. In the proposal, called the Amethyst Initiative, they argue that 18-year-olds are allowed to vote and enlist in the military yet cannot legally drink alcohol.
The proposal's opponents include Mothers Against Drunk Driving and Students Against Destructive Decisions. They cite research indicating the number of drunken driving accidents fell after the drinking age was raised to 21 in 1984.
Whatever the outcome, it's time that college presidents tackle the issue of underage drinking on campus, said Andrew Brown, 21, student body president at CLU.
"The core issue is the safety of people," Brown said. "It's out there. Students are going to experiment with alcohol."
The California State University system opposes lowering the drinking age, said Richard Rush, president of CSU Channel Islands in Camarillo. Still, Rush supports a national debate on the subject.
"There are emotional issues on both sides of this," he said. "It's healthy to get it all out, so let's discuss it."
Thomas Dillon, president of Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula, agreed a debate could be valuable. He, however, also supports the current drinking age.
"The law can be helpful in establishing good habits, in teaching responsibility and restraint," Dillon said. "Pleasure can be a strong attraction, but it also can be harmful."
The University of California system has not yet taken a position on the proposal, said Paul Desruisseaux, spokesman for UC Santa Barbara. Chancellors are expected to discuss the issue when they meet in September, he said.
Meanwhile, Ian Kaminsky, director of the university's alcohol and drug program, said he believes a debate is needed "because campuses really are struggling."
The problem is that college students "aren't 21, but there's a lot of drinking in college," Kaminsky said.
On the other hand, if the drinking age drops to 18, then it allows high school students to legally drink, he said. And lowering the drinking age does nothing to educate kids about healthy drinking.
"Lowering the drinking age is not the way to go," he said.
Community colleges are less affected by the discussion because their students generally don't live on campus, said Robin Calote, president of Ventura College.
"It's not as relevant for us, compared with institutions that have more of a role in the private lives of their students," Calote said.
Most colleges require students to participate in some sort of alcohol education program when they enroll. CSU Channel Islands and UC Santa Barbara both have online classes.
At UC Santa Barbara, under-age students caught with alcohol must undergo a new, five-week group program, where they learn about the risks of drinking and ways to reduce those risks, Kaminsky said.
At Thomas Aquinas, a private Catholic university, students cannot drink on their own on campus. They can, however, have a drink at college functions if they are of age.
CLU, a dry campus, incorporates alcohol education into orientation and freshman seminars, said Sally Sagen, assistant director of student life. The program, "What's the Buzz," is required for all students at the private university, Sagen said.
"We have to be realistic," Sagen said. "Some of our students never drink and never plan to. But some have been drinking since they were 12."
That's a wise approach, said CLU student Brown. "We're not a big party school, but that doesn't mean we're immune to the problems of binge drinking," Brown said. "It's extremely important for universities to educate students on that."
— The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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The project will continue our work on mitigation options for sediment and phosphorus. Lancaster's component will investigate the cycling of sediment and nutrients through small ponds and wetlands. This will help us to determine the effectiveness of ponds and wetlands as a mitigation measure for sediment and phosphorus originating from field drains, and to improve the design of these features for nutrient and sediment trapping.
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With 32 partners in 22 EU countries in the initial consortium, the project working groups incorporate 103 members from 32 countries. Lancaster University's participation is focussed in the area of Humanities Projects. We aim to establish interactions with the research communities in humanities and the social sciences in order to support ongoing projects with help and advice on the use of language resources and thereby to find requirements for the CLARIN infrastructure.
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The Detroit Tigers inched back within a game of first place in the AL Central thanks to an 8-6 win over the Chicago White Sox on Wednesday night, Detroit's second straight over its rival.
Just as Doug Fister did on Tuesday, Max Scherzer led the way for the Tigers in this one. Scherzer, who may be a couple of wins away from serious Cy Young consideration, struck out seven and allowed just one run on four hits over six innings to improve to 16-6 on the season. Scherzer has won six consecutive decisions and has not lost since July 30 at Boston.
The Tigers' bats also came to life after a slow start against White Sox starter Gavin Floyd. Floyd cruised through our innings, but the Tigers struck for three in the fifth — on RBIs from Omar Infante, Austin Jackson and Miguel Cabrera — to drive Floyd from the game.
Detroit extended its lead to 6-1 in the seventh when Prince Fielder snapped an 0-for-18 skid by launching a home run to right field off reliever Leyson Septimo. RBI doubles from Alex Avila and Jackson in the eighth gave Detroit an 8-1 edge.
The Tigers needed almost all of those runs, too, as the bullpen nearly gave the game away late. Brayan Villarreal, after a scoreless seventh, walked two batters in the eighth; Joaquin Benoit relieved him and allowed an RBI single and then a three-run homer to Kevin Youkilis — Youkilis also took Scherzer deep earlier.
Benoit escaped the eighth with an 8-5 lead intact, but Jose Valverde coughed up another run in the ninth and allowed the tying run to come to the plate. But Valverde struck out Orlando Hudson looking to preserve the huge win.
Tigers' MVP: Scherzer.
As Justin Verlander has struggled away from home — and struggled to pick up wins in general — Scherzer has carried the torch for Detroit's pitching staff. Thursday's game broke a string of 10 straight starts for Scherzer with eight strikeouts or more, and he was still plenty good enough to get the victory.
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I dont know what planet are you from. Nvidia has the best drivers to date. I use Ubuntu since 7.10 (and until 9.10) and never had problems with nvidia cards (i use only nvidia cards in all my computers).
But i use the nvidia provided installation script i never relied on the activate driver stuff that sometimes worked sometimes not.
Now i use Debian and had no problems (0 gdm crashes, 0 black screen on startup, the overall system stability is better even than in Windows).
And if you take a bit of your time and look around, you will see that nvidia suports the latest prerelease x server with all 3 tiers of its drivers. No other driver can come close to its performance/stability (fglrx is gaining but inches as a snail). Dont even mention the OSS drivers as far as performance and stability is concerned.
I know that Nvidia supports Linux better than others, but the problem is that Linux is evolving and that Nvidia is unable or unwilling to support developments such kms or the next graphics server in phase of development (Wayland). For these reasons I think that Nvidia is not doing enough and that Linux users should expect more. Linux can not wait for the development time required for drivers that need extremely difficult methods such as reverse engineering. We need more attention.
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