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Ever go to the airport and get a nasty surprise? Or maybe you get these "gotchas" online.
It happened to Stephanie Bowen of Washington, D.C., recently, while she was arranging a visit for her teenage niece who lives in San Diego.
Since her niece had never flown solo before, the family opted to pay American Airlines' unaccompanied minor fee -- a fee they somewhat naively believed would cost perhaps $25. The shock: It was four times that much, each way. "Five dollars for a blanket is one thing," Bowen said, "but 100 bucks to help a kid walk through the terminal? That just seems rude."
Actually, a blanket is $7 on JetBlue and US Airways. As for the unaccompanied minor fee, let's be totally clear: It's $200 per roundtrip flight, and that's standard on airlines like Continental, Delta, Spirit and US Airways (United gives you a break by only charging "only" $99 each-way, and yes, the sarcasm font is on).
Now, was this fee truly hidden -- a bonafide "gotcha"? No. It's there on the website if you search for it. But a lot of people don't find these fees or other "surprises," or don't find them easily or bother to look. The result: a nasty little shock.
Maybe you've been electrified yourself. Here are six of my least favorite "gotchas."
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No. 1: The Unexpected Fee
These are unexpected or "hidden fees" that are the bane of leisure travelers, especially for those who don't fly often -- like the previously mentioned blanket fee (upside: you get to keep the blanket, and it comes with a little pillow).
However, think twice before you pick up the phone to make a reservation: Most airlines will charge you for that convenience, anywhere from $10 (Allegiant) to $35 (for international reservations with US Airways).
Of course, if you have to use the phone because you're "online phobic," you may never know about this fee because where else are you going to find it except online?
One more unexpected fee, and technically it's really a targeted airfare hike: the "peak travel day" surcharge. Airlines have been adding this since last November (when it was called a "holiday" surcharge), and you'll find airline surcharges of varying prices every day through Aug. 22.
No. 2: The Total Airline Ticket Cost
I know you've seen this: An airfare is advertised at a great price, and so you decide to buy. But when you get to the end of the transaction, you find yourself asking, "What the heck happened to my bargain?"
The answer, often, is taxes, fees and fuel surcharges. On flights to Europe, for example, the average fuel surcharge is $230 and taxes are an average of $125, so you spend about $355 before you even purchase the ticket.
Now, airlines and others don't exactly hide these extra costs, but they often appear in small print. Since 1984, the government has required all airfare advertisers to reveal the full fare, but in practice, certain government-imposed charges have long been allowed to be listed separately from the total price.
However, changes may be coming: The Department of Transportation is considering going back to the original intent of the airfare rule, which states that any advertisement that "is not the total price to be paid by the consumer [is] an unfair and deceptive practice."


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The project for Prime Swords started in 2012 and have evolved since then. Each sword can be customized and they won't fall apart with just one play session. Harmon and Richens have created their own Kickstarter page where you can go and support the project. You can pledge anywhere from $1 to $1 million and help these gentlemen kick off their new foam toy experience.
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Microsoft confirms that PS4, Wii U will work with Xbox One HDMI passthrough
- By Grant Brunner on November 8, 2013 at 2:56 pm
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When Microsoft first announced that the Xbox One will feature HDMI input and output, one question jumped to mind: Can you run a PS4 through the Xbox One? Microsoft mostly kept its responses to that question vague, but now it seems like it's willing to open up. Not only will the Xbox One work with cable boxes and the Xbox 360 over HDMI, but any HDMI-compliant device should work just fine out of the box — including the PS4.
Over at the Penny Arcade Report, Microsoft's Jeff Henshaw officially confirmed that other consoles will work through the Xbox One's interface. If you want to hook up a PS4 or Wii U to the back of your Xbox One, go nuts! While many of us were concerned that the additional lag introduced through the Xbox One would cause problems for some games, Henshaw denies that this will be an issue. "It is an extremely small lag that the human eye will not be able to perceive," he says.
While Henshaw was apparently slightly squeamish about discussing the possibility of plugging in a PS4 or Wii U, and understandably so, he makes it quite clear that it should work without a hitch. He even notes that he already plays Xbox 360 games through the Xbox One's HDMI passthrough, so feel confident in knowing that lag will not be an issue in the vast majority of circumstances.
Even so, day-one patches will be an issue. The Xbox One that is shipping on launch day is effectively unusable without the day-one patch. Engadget interviewed Microsoft's Albert Penello, and he confirmed that games will not be playable at all until the patch is installed. "Functionally, you will be able to do very little without taking the day one update," he says. If the Xbox Live servers get slammed at launch, or your internet drops out, you're pretty much stuck with a pile of useless silicon and plastic.
As bad as that sounds, Sony is very much in the same boat with the PS4. Until you apply a hefty 300MB patch, your PS4 will be missing a number of core features. As we've said before, both of these consoles are coming in extremely hot. Shipping non-functional devices is pretty much the standard these days — companies would rather force an update than delay a launch date. While it's not the end of the world, this is a perfect example of how modern consoles are actually a tiny bit worse than the consoles of yore.
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Great news everyone microsoft is looking to drop bing and sell Xbox to another company. http://www.techspot.com/news/54631-microsoft-ceo-candidate-stephen-elop-reportedly-considering-dropping-bing-and-selling-xbox-business.html
So ps4 fanboys have fun with the Great news, if you want to consider that great. Just remember that Sony won't have much competition if this goes down. Meaning playstation value will surely decrease over time.
Luis E.
That article and others like it are pure clicbait. There is no way Gates and Ballmer, who control the MS board of shareholders, will allow anyone to close down or spun off either the Xbox or Bing.
no way microsoft needs to get back to its roots and start making there OS the biggest concern once again. all the xbone does is give people a low-mid range windows 8 pc with locked down os thats all it is. heres a computer that you can only use 1/1,000,000,000 of its capabilites. and look wer put the windows 8 ui on there since we know how many people love the windows 8 ui. but wait we will give you the option to have more than 1 window open at a time, its revolutionary. But wait we wont stop there folks voice integration comes with it, what a great feature thats been around for oh idk like 20 years.
pc can open as many windows as you could ever want all at once.
pc can voice control most things in my home, and have any response back that i give it.
pc can play games in 4k
pc can allow you to adjust rez, and graphics sliders to your fitting.
pc can optimize your hardware and games in the same way consoles and games are optimized.
pc can use oculus rift.
pc can choose from thousands of different input devices.
pc can give you games cheap that makes hardware prices non important.
pc can be called "pc master race" by console fanboys as if thats a bad thing. (ill take master race as title)
pc can play most games without needing to buy a yearly subscription to xbox live/psn
pc can run steam os so no driver update bs to swim through. making it just as convenient as consoles.
pc can use thousands of headsets not just locked to 1-2 brand names.
pc can use xbmc/plex instead of some crap media center that only plays a handful of media formats.
pc can be easily upgraded as the games engines are upgraded keeping your games and media looking great
pc can screnshot or cap video and broadcast it live and has been able to for years.
pc can watch you flail your arms around with devices cheaper than the kinect.
pc can use a browser other than internet explorer
pc can add mods to games to give them an entirely different and usually better look/performance
pc doesnt make you buy anything you dont want.
pc doesnt lock you down to making your gaming machine a tv sized smart phone.
pc doesnt limit your abilities to personalize and customize the looks of the hardware/os
thse are just a few examples right off the top of my head why MS should scrap xbox and revert back to a software company and just make a built into windows gaming option. games for windows live was a total flop and should have been killed with fire from the beginning. What they need to do is follow in the footsteps of steam and create an online gaming section into windows where all of the games can be purchased cheap, work great and handle any updates/driver issues in the background. Along with using tools like mantle to have everyone up and running smooth without any tweaking needed to be done from the user. The only thing the xbone lacks in is decent hardware and more open os.
So much lost potential with consoles and for no reason! Anyways IMO PS4 is where its at if i were to actually buy a console.
Dude, you totally just convinced me to build a gaming PC instead of a PS4.
lol jk
dude, everyone knows that pc is better! you're just wasting your time. people get consoles because it it more simple and convinient. you seriously wasted your time
Explain how its more simple and convenient than plug and play? Buy steam machine/PC, plug into tv, pick up controller. Hmmm yea that seems very inconvenient to consoles where its Buy console, plug into tv, pick up controller. You sound like such a moron.
Pc provides the same interface type as consoles
Pc provides mostly the same games with the exception of a couple rehashes.
Pc provides background driver updates and background patches.
Pc provides access to use any input devices.
Pc provides games 85% cheaper than consoles
Pc provides virtual reality
Pc provides better hardware for cheaper
Pc allows upgrading hardware
Pc never worries about backwards compatibility
Pc games will be optimized even better than consoles through mantle
Pc 100,000 dpf, consoles only 10,000 dpf
Pc can handle 4k resolution compared to console 720p
Pc can get you over 100fps consoles locked to 60 and under
Pc gddr6 or hybrid memory cube compared to consoles gddr5
Pc provides ddr4 consoles stuck at ddr3
Pc provides multi monitor setups
Pc provides more services
Pc has more free services
Pc can control all electronics in your house
Pc can do your taxes
Pc can steam games in 1080p
Pc has a much larger community
Pc keeps getting better
So please tell me more about how convenient it is to be locked down so tight, using only 1 input device, playing at 720p, and paying $70for 1 game where I can buy 30 games for the same price.
How about you go do a little bit of research before running your mouth and spewing BS.
Consoles hold back the gaming industry for everyone not just me but for the millions of other gamers whether they f#@&ed up and bought a vtech one , or a leapfrog 4. It screws it up for us all. Now for another 10 years we are held in place of 720p 30fps no AA because hardy harr harr you were to dumb to make an intelligent decision. So now everyone has to pay for it.
In 10 more years the consoles will dazzle all of us once again ushering in nextgen 720p and morons like you in 10 years will say "OK it looks prettier in this box so I want it" and again f#$& everyone over.
Luis E.
That article and others like it are pure clicbait. There is no way Gates and Ballmer, who control the MS board of shareholders, will allow anyone to close down or spun off either the Xbox or Bing.
first of all.. they did have meeting about dropping or selling the xbox brand…. but that won't happen any time soon.
secondly….no.. competition?? xbox is actually the smallest of the major console platforms…. has been. it caters literally to only to middle Americans…it's "sales" figures are bloated and in the context of the truth, not all that great, it's online population is also the smallest, 1/2 of what it was, and still rapidly falling. It has been costing msft as a whole 24% annually for the last several years……
competition??? no…… there is plenty of other competition out there in the gaming industry, and it is not coming from msft, sorry…. their contributions to actual IP's is minimal at best, if not simply non-existent.
Nope always quality
Your reading comprehension is very poor if that is what you gathered from that news link.
I had planned doing this all along. Only my plan is a bit better. I'll be using an HDMI switch to connect multiple devices to my XB1. Then from my XB1, it's HDMI out to my brand new 60″ HDTV thats on the wall. :p
i dont get it? why not just plug in all of your devices to the switch then. Wouldnt it make it more hassle to have 1 hardware switch hooked into a xbone being used as a switch of sort? i have everything hooked up to my hardware switch and use my pc to do the switching for me through voice or remote. allows full control of everything i have with ease of use and full customizable configuration.
the way you have it you would need to turn on your xbox one then use your remote to switch to the other hdmi devices. that means to use your other devices you need the xbox in the middle of it all.
why not just plug in all of your devices to the switch and run the switch straight to the tv that way you could just switch to each as needed.
Joel Detrow
I'm guessing he'll want to get to the XBO's interface for one reason or another even while he's viewing video/game feed from something else.
you don't know how the xbox one works… do you?
Yes I do. That's why I keep telling everyone to not buy the garbage. He's using multiple HDMI switches the way he's talking about doing it which is just retarded. As I said before if you want the best experience with your xbone find a table that has a wobble and give the xbone a use. Other than that hook all your devices to the receiver including the xbone and use the receiver to switch inputs.
all that tv.. you are literally destroying the signal of all those other sources… fyi…..
get an av unit like people with 1/2 a brain would do… as cheap as 50 bucks, and wont distort or degrade your signal (and also not introduce a ton of lag to it)…
all that tv and no surround sound? makes no sense…
Never said I did not have surround sound. My HDMI does pass through my Onkyo TX-NR717 and out to my 9.2 Martin Logan speakers. (One Martin Logan sub, one Butt-kicker Amplifier + engines.)
Additionally, passing an HDMI signal through one or two switches (or even 3), does not come even close to destroying the quality of the signal. Especially if the switches you are using are of decent quality. Split the signal a couple of hundred times and you may see 'some' degradation of signal.
it is not a matter of a simple passthrough, as the xbox one is not, it integrates it's own processing, and also attempts to overlay it's own ui as well.. now.. as for signal loss… every single time you "splice" or "connect" a cable, no matter what it is, there is some signal loss. remember al those fancy surge protectors that would also have a coax surge protection capability? and when people send their hdtv signal coax through it, in an attempt to not fry their brand-new hdtv's or receivers, what they got was garbled crap and no signal? that is what I am referring to, as hi-def, digital signals require more bandwidth, more unmolested bandwidth… when it comes to digital content, the slightest delay, the smallest missing bit equates to a non functioning media. Judging from your system, you presumably run EVERYTHING to your av receiver, and then finally to your display.. as you should, it was made for that, made to reduce the any possible signal delay or disruption while performing as an switch among other things. The Xbox One is not made that way though.
"Writing on the gaming forum NeoGAF after his TGS appearance, Penello said that connecting the two consoles "won't be a great experience."
Due to HDMI latency issues, Penello reasoned, using the Xbox One's HDMI pass-through feature for any kind of "interactive" entertainment would result in lag during gameplay, which suggests that Microsoft wouldn't recommend playing an Xbox 360 through the One either."
At least someone else gets it.
Justin Brower
They would not recommend it, however, until it has been done and shown to cause latency issues through the pass-through, this is a non-issue.
has been done, and shows substantial latency.
msft says it's an issue= non-issue?
but when tested in public to be an issue, then it is?
i have 5 devices that currently connect to my receiver. the receiver's hdmi output currently goes straight to my TV. I will change it so it goes through the xbox one and then to the tv. should be cool to be able to use all my devices via the xbox one and being able to do all that "extra" stuff at the same time.
This is the most reasonable and most intelligent response I've seen so far. I believe I may follow your example.
maybe to you. Think about it hes got 5 devices hooked to his receiver right now that pas through to his tv. he has to use a button on the remote to switch between those hdmi signals on his receiver same as i do right now. now hes gonna plug the receiver into the xbox in making it so what he has to hit a couple extra buttons to get to the source instead of just 1. yea this is very intelligent.
maybe to you. Think about it hes got 5 devices hooked to his receiver right now that pas through to his tv. he has to use a button on the remote to switch between those hdmi signals on his receiver same as i do right now. now hes gonna plug the receiver into the xbox in making it so what he has to hit a couple extra buttons to get to the source instead of just 1. yea this is very intelligent.
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
get a logitech harmony smart control you big baby
I use a mix of event ghost, voxcommando, usbuirt, nexus 7, x10, xbmc, onkyo receiver, 59″ Samsung plasma smart TV. Have all sorts of nice macros that allow me to shut my entire theater room down or bring it all to life with one button press. Or I can just say "Jarvis xbmc, Jarvis Xbox 360, Jarvis movie mode, whatever I want he then responds back the way I tell him to switching HDMI signals through the onkyo turning the TV on turning the proper programs, and adjusting the light or temp in the room. Reads me my email, turns everything down and pauses when the phone rings. Everything easily and cheap.
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
voice control seems ok but i'd sound gay talking to myself to change stuff.
harmony smart control costed me about 80 quid and i get a nice remote that controls my lutron lighting, my sony soundbar amp with hdmi inputs, my xbox360, my tv, my 8.1 htpc, and i can set various activities depending on what i want. eg: listen to music automatically turns amp to bluetooth and turns everything off except lights. infinite options controllable by the harmony website. i will now buy some philips hue lights to replace my lightwave rf lights.
oh and i can also control all this from my phone from anywhere i have wifi with programmable gestures. but trust me doing all this from simple remote with real buttons in the dark is much better. battery lasts forever as it works through rf to the harmony hub.
best 80 pounds ever.
i'm sure when xbone comes and i put it between my amp and the tv i will have an overlay over my htpc & xbox360 (only for gta5 now)
I hear ya I was gonna grab a harmony until I got the nexus which can do the same pretty much.
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
well you are a caveman who still uses x10 so what more can i say but to tell you that harmony hub controls all devices near it plus the lutron panel which is on the opposite side of the room.
the most important thing is the physical remote which is much better than my nexus or xperia. best remote ive ever used in fact, reprogammable buttons, light and dont need to point it
move to the future old man
Wouldn't it make sense for Microsoft/Sony to distribute a majority of the day one patches on a DVD to retailers to include with the products as they are put into customer's hands or shipped from warehouses? They should also start by creating torrent seeds on P2P networks, so as not to rely solely on their own private infrastructural limitations. Or else they may run into similar debacles as SimCity 5 and the Obamacare website.
Wait there's something wrong with obamacare??? Lol
msft is not doing that.. but sony is letting you dl it and burn to disc or flash drive, and offers also to mail the update via disc as well….
ps4 can do things without the patch, the patch optimizes some of them and adds a few.
xb1 can't do anything without online initialization, and there is no disc (not that it would read it) to use for it.
Some Dude
Nothing new. Nintendo did it and got flamed…
old news, this been confirmed few months ago, well confirmed for ps4 that is… ill laugh when nintendo and/or sony blocked xbox one from allowing it.
Master Troll
Hey xbots they played you again
More proof the XB1 is simply a kinect controlled multimedia switching device and that you will still need all your other boxes, including a PS4 if you want the best in gaming outside of a PC. Not really the 'One' is it. More like the 'One' user interface.
The Playstation4 it's the same hardware, same outdated slow AMD APU Jaguar
yes it is (except.. the retail units are clocked at 2-2.3ghz.. but still.. not impressed)
This feature will be terminated as soon as microsoft reaches projected sales, after this feature is disabled, They will be bringing back the DRM they put away in the closet for safe keeping.
blaster man
I don't get it, who cares? Just buy a receiver or use a modern TV with 4+ HDMI inputs.
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Microsoft Business 32%
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Entertainment and devices 13% (Xbox)
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and these figures are exactly why ms needs to do away with the xbox brand. sell xbox to highest bidder let them drive the stake through its heart and finish it off. then we can ave a full divide . all of the people on the precious xbone wil lose multiplayer abilities and be forced to pc/playstation. then in a couple more years more sony fanboys will see that pc cant be beat in price/performance and more will steadily make there way to pc. at this point we will get some of the most mind blowing graphics in our games. because now developers will only need to code the games for pc.
you might know, as I do, that they have had a few meeting already exactly about this.. some talk was about selling it to samsung… others were intent to simply drop it completely and stick to software (until they can secure their OS onto everything)…
They should just drop it completely so that the morons don't run out to buy the next fail Xbox made by Samsung shortly after buying a fail Xbox from ms
sorry, but this is old news.. what people are not paying attention to is the part where msft themselves stated that it would be a BAD idea to do this (not because they don't want people buying other products…..) because of the amount of lag the HDMI passthrough and it's accompanying UI introduce to the signal, it would make other consoles ran through this way unplayable… will you see the game? yes.. can you enjoy it? NO..
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
"It is an extremely small lag that the human eye will not be able to perceive,"
"He even notes that he already plays Xbox 360 games through the Xbox One's HDMI passthrough, so feel confident in knowing that lag will not be an issue in the vast majority of circumstances."
what part of this is untrue?
how about reading the rest of it, and the part where, under compulsion of legal teams and msft higher he goes onto reddit to clarify it is not something to do.
Writing on the gaming forum NeoGAF after his TGS appearance, Penello said that connecting the two consoles "won't be a great experience."
Due to HDMI latency issues, Penello reasoned, using the Xbox One's HDMI pass-through feature for any kind of "interactive" entertainment would result in lag during gameplay, which suggests that Microsoft wouldn't recommend playing an Xbox 360 through the One either."
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
well ive played xbox through hdmi to cat5 converters with no issue or lag even though the manual says you may experience lag. so how about i let you know once my xbone arrives. i'll get back to ya
true.. you could be right and the xbox design team and executives could be wrong… I'll wait…. or.. nah.. a retail version couldn't be that different from my dev kits could it?
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
never know what a firmware update can bring to your dev kit. it's not like this feature is the be all and end all anyway but will be mighty useful if it works as intended
it's supposed to be a passthrough….. were it truly unmitigated it wouldn't need a firmware update…..
I can tell you it's fine for passing your cable tv through, but running games, no.. far too much lag, very noticeable lag.
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
well i'm in the uk and sky tv isnt integrated like it is for you yanks. but i dont really watch tv so games passthrough is the only relevance for me. if it doesnt work then hopefully gta5 comes out for xbone or red dead redeption 2 is enough to keep me busy without it
I know right!!….. WTB red-dead 2 noa!!!
and yeah, I am American.. but far more traveled than most… I actually can't stand much of the stuff/concepts, behaviors in America really…..most have lost sight of what being American is….
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
america is still a country to be proud of when compared to most, that's why i dont mind teasing. we are all the same inside, but it is unusual to meet an american with a passport lol so kudos…
so what does being american mean to you? and what should it mean for others, ie why are you disappointed? foreign policy stuff?
well, it is different to me, and passports are new to me also, having previously only needed my Military ID to travel… none the less, having seen first hand many of the things several countries do right, and do wrong, including my own, I have a staggeringly different opinion from my less traveled, and civilian "peers".
I don't envy the men in the position to make change, but I also dislike the changes they have, or have not made.
My perspective is also far different from most, having been homeless since the age of 5, I've built my own world with my own hands, lived lives of poverty and wealth, I've lived several lifetimes in only 40-50 years and it really makes my perspective on things different, enough so that my ideas often make people cringe at first.
Don't believe in politics, shouldn't even exist imo… but people are different, greedy, and seldom can they honestly live a life of sacrifice to benefit all of their kind, and not just themselves.
I often have to tell young troops, that is isn't being American that makes people great, it is great people that make America.
people these days tend to lean on it, as though America was a brand name, as though the work has long since been done and they can simply hang back and reap the rewards of other's efforts… ..
I could go on for weeks about the issues… most likely raising my blood pressure to unhealthy levels… this is not the place for it though.
Melchizedek Ninetysevun
a well traveled ex military man who worked his way out of homelessness and has traversed the world for longer than me and experienced much more. you have my respect. so what ideas do you hold and is your perspective likely to change in future? all humans have personal selfish desires so what do you practice in order to transcend that and consider others? karma theory? golden rule? i have an open mind
I prefer the golden rule above all else, some buddist philosophy is ok as well (but pacifism is simply unacceptable, as it is one of the worst evils man can commit).. We often think our perspectives will remain unchanged.. that is seldom ever the case though. It may take something extraordinary though to change my current view, having seen much of the worst of man, and his potential good. I despise religion and/or politics flat out, as it has been the single cause, whether out of belief or under the guise of belief, for nearly every single war. I do think, that we can achieve anything if we honestly put all our efforts to a single goal.
for America.. I would restructure much of it. Infrastructure, education, military services, and especially the government. Sadly, I know that while one government type seems like the friendliest, a societies government style must change to suite the needs of the civilization, or parish (except.. Norway's method seems pretty good atm, being as honestly democratic as possible, without massive corporate influence, where everybody actually does get a vote, in everything that is done.
most homeless people are there by choice, it's a sad fact… they can do things to come above it, and they simply don't.. (also.. being "homeless" isn't always true, we tend to find or create our own safe places we like to call "home"). For all of the unattended children, rather than sitting in some orphanage, being sifted through the system and left to their own devices.. I would place them all in military academy. This school would not focus on killing, but on basic soldiering as well as concepts of honor, integrity, while learning a diverse education in languages, applied sciences, agriculture (while helping to grow their own food sources, as this helps understand agriculture, economy, and value of one's labors). This would be staffed by trained veterans (further increasing employment and giving those vets a home of their own and something to do… nothing worse than not having a mission..). at 18, they can full on enlist with higher rank if they choose (while contributing a % back into the program that raised them) or choose otherwise.. (but honestly, an advanced placement and good career opportunities in the military would be most beneficial to all). I would make responsible adults of these children, make them desired by the military command and civilian employers alike.
That is just a short version, of one concept I think would do us all good. reducing homeless children numbers, gainfully employing more people, and taking children out of a system that usually abuses them in various ways, from physical, mental, to using them simply for a state check….
No more of this "everybody gets a trophy" mentality, I want to make active pillars of the community.
its funny to see both Sony and Microsoft facing the exact same issues Nintendo had when the Wii U launched. At the time people were criticizing them for their day 1 update. Its just a reality these days.
http://www.senran-international.boards.net/ TwinTails
My sentiments exactly.
To test the amount of lag, play the Wii U on the gamepad or the PS4 on a Vita to see just how "extremely small lag that the human eye will not be able to perceive" the X1 induces.
Though it does sound like the best reason to have an X1 now. "X1 change input to Wii U. X1 change input to PS4."
David Nguyen
this will be something new when I get the xbox one :)


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I had the "mommy make over" one year ago. During surgery my Dr. punctured both of my lungs leaving me hospitalized for 5 days and with chest tubes. It is now a year later, and I obviously have no contact with my surgeon after that. One year later I now am having severe abdominal pain near my belly button, every day! Could this be from scar tissue damage? Should I go see a different surgeon? I am a runner and this is affecting my training.
Could This Pain Be Scar Tissue Damage from my Tummy Tuck?
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Pain after an abdominoplasty
I am certainly sorry that you had such a rocky surgical course. Sharp pain is not uncommon after an abdominoplasty. There are many sensory nerves in the area and they get bruised and caught up in post operative swelling. Sometime you move one direction and just put a little pull on the nerve and it can cause this type of pain. If It becomes persistent then you need to be examined.
Scar Tissue Damage
I'm so very sorry for all of the trauma you've experienced. It's very difficult to tell without seeing you and examining you and I strongly urge you to seek the opinion of a board certified plastic surgeon.
Jonathan Ross Berman, M.D. , F.A.C.S.
Pain in Abdomen Post Tummy Tuck
The short answer would certainly be yes the pain you're having could be due to scar tissue from your abdominalplasty. I agree with the other responders. You need to see both a board-certified plastic surgeon, experienced in abdominalplasties, as well as a board-certified general surgeon who will have a broader picture of what the cause of your pain could be if it wasn't due to the abdominalplasty.
The differential diagnosis of a peri-umbillical pain can run the gamut, from post-op complication from the tummy tuck to ovarian tumors, gastro-intestinal problems, and this could also be referred pain from the liver. I'm sorry you're going through this, and I'm sorry for your very significant pulmonary complication. Please be sure to choose your consultants wisely, based on recommendations from the state medical society, local hospitals, and comments by friends.
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Abdominal pain after tummy tuck.
What you describe can be from multiple causes. Find a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon in your area. It also would be good to find a Board Certified General Surgeon as well. Sometimes Plastic Surgeons and General Surgeons work together on complex cases. Ask the Surgeons' offices if they have referrals to give you. It would also be helpful to get your chart from the previous surgeon. The operative note should the next surgeon know what transpired in the operating room.
Web reference: http://www.jjrothmd.com/procedures/tummy-tuck-abdominoplasty
Pain after a tummy tuck
I am very sorry about your severe complication.
I suggest that you see two specialists to start with and don't delay --
- Board Certified plastic surgeon
- a Board Certified general surgeon
You are likely to need some tests as well to find the cause of the pain.
Best wishes for a quick diagnosis and speedy treatment.
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With the festival of lamps, Karthigai Deepam, falling on Tuesday, households in the city are busy shopping for dainty clay pots.
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Amsterdam Tip Sheet for 2007 (Very Long)
I've spent some time compiling this list to take with my on my trip to Amsterdam this summer. It's recommendations from this board over the past year, in no particular order. Please let me know if I've missed anything important!
Amsterdam Tip Sheet
Japanese Pancake World
2e Egelantiersdwarsstraat 24a
UrbanHunterGatherer on Apr 11, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/268086
"I highly suggest you arrange to sit at the teppan grill (kind of like the grill you find at the classic Japanese steak houses) where you can see the chef whirl his spatulas and turn basic ingredients into round wonders. For a foodie like me, the Japanese pancake education doled out by the chef/owner at the teppan grill was the culinary highlight of my visit to Amsterdam. "
My partner and I split two pancakes, which was plenty for the two of us.
We ordered an Osaka-style pancake called Shogayaki Special Osaka, which had the Osaka pancake base of batter and veggies and flavorings, but also marinated beef, spinach, and onions. The overall taste was rich and satisfying. I particularly enjoyed the strong ginger seasoning of the beef and fresh green taste of the spinach and the overall crispy texture of the pancake.
The second pancake we ordered was a Hiroshima-style cake called Butama Hiroshima, which was constructed quite differently than the Osaka cake. The actual pancake was crepe-like, and then loads of veggies were mounded on top to dizzying heights to form the basic Hiroshima pancake, but then the Butama ingredients (pork strips, cheese, and mushrooms) were added to the mix. The real mouth-dropper was when the chef skillfully flipped the pancake over in one adept move to brown the other side. You don't see things like that in my kitchen. The first flavor that hit me from this cake was actually the fruit found in the sauce added to the outside, very tasty citrus, but as I delved deeper, the fruit tang mingled with the smoky bonito, pork, and unexpectedly appropriately placed cheese. A definite winner.
All in all Japanese Pancake World was a great value. We found the food excellent, the owners gracious, and the experience highly educational. "
RatBoy on Apr 13, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/268093
"Just got back to NY from a trip to London and Amsterdam and the best meal I had the whole week (or maybe whole year) was at Japanese Pancake House in Amsterdam. http://www.japanesepancakeworld.com/
I have searched out Okonomiyaki in LA and New York (never had it in Japan yet) and this was the best by far.
It is a small shop with an open teppan grill, and the owners/chefs were extremely nice. Its really great to have a meal cooked by someone who loves the dish. He was talking up a storm while we watched him cook, and he was telling us that pretty much everything except for the sauce and mayonaise is made from scratch.
Three of us shared 3 pancakes; a shogayaki special Osaka, a hiroshima style butatama and a negi-seafood. I liked the butatama best - but all were great."
Saskia's Huiskamer (Saskia's Living Room
Albert Cuypstraat 203 C huis (let op begane grond
sixelagogo on Aug 01, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/313988
Just got back from Amsterdam where my dude and I had a meal at Saskia's restaurant. 5 courses + wine for 28 euro's each was a deal, not to mention the set up. I chose this restaurant from site called "like a local" found at http://like-a-local.com/ .
Saskia's was perfect; we ate at a table literally on Albert Culpstrat (in the Pijp) with about 20 other people at a long table- It was REALLY HOT. Saskia's got room for about 24 inside, though it was too hot to eat inside. My dude and I were the only ones from the states, while 1 other couple was from Scotland- the rest were "locals".
The meal started with a phyllo pastry filled with some sort of spiced meat and topped with sesame seed; Second course, an arugula salad served with a delicious frittata; third course, cold vischysous(sp) with pieces of smoked fish; fourth course, pan seared seabass with "stump pot" (tradinal mash potoatoes with a twist- avacado in this case); fifth course, a fruit tart.
Food was amazing. As guests we were recrutied to take food to the table, refill our wine and water, and bus the dishes. It made it really fun and personal. I Definately suggest Saskia's restaurant or another like a local experience if and when you go to amsterdam.
De Kas
Kamerlingh Onneslaan 3
1097 DE Amsterdam
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gourmand_syndrome Dec 07, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/34595...
We recently returned from Amsterdam and experienced some incredible dining. As you keep hearing de Kas is amazing. If you would like to see some pictures of de Kas and other restaurants check out our bog, where we are posting all of our meals from that trip.
Bradbury Jun 06, 2006
"De Kas is marvellous, and probably more of a cuisine "experience" than DWU, but it's not exactly cozy ... you're eating in a big glass greenhouse in a park. Which is spectacular in June but pretty much dark in January. Food's still just as good, though."
Bradbury Jan 05, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26740...
"De Kas is in a big, airy greenhouse in a park just outside the center of town (but directly accessible via the #9 tram). It operates on the "Chez Panisse" principle of using local organic produce/meat to offer a single four-course meal each day. (Though there are substitute courses available for those with vegetarian/allergy issues) The food is reliably great, and the setting lovely (though in January you'll miss the experience of greenhouse dining during a May sunset...)"
Various tips: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/33426...
pjbarone Oct 15, 2006
I just came back from Amsterdam a month ago and thru the guidance of locals found some good places to eat.
You must eat at Envy. Its expensive, but if you are going to Christophe, you should be ok. Try the Bleu de Termignon and the Jamon Iberico. www.envy.nl
Another hidden Gem is Restaurant de Luwte (Leliegracht 26-28). Very nice place. outdoor tables if the weather is mild.
If you crave Spanish Tapas, head to Paso Doble (westerstraat 86) www.paso-doble.nl The tortilla, the patatas bravas, the albondigas, lamb chaps, everything was great.
A great pub around 5-8pm is De Drie Fleschjes (Gravenstraat 18). They have been there since 1650. Large casks line the wall. always a good spot to drink with the locals. Try the Corenwyn. the liverwurst is good to wash it down with.
For Chinese, Head to Nam Kee (Zeedijk 111-113). Nothing pretty, but the Bami soep, the oysters with black bean sauce, really anything you order here is excellent. I've eaten at most of the chinese on the Zeedijk, and this one is my favorite.
Tango (Warmoestraat 49) is great place for Lamb Chops. Order enough and they bring them to you on a comal. Argentenian steakhouse.
Bradbury Jan 11, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26745...
Upscale continental/creative: De Kas, Voorbij het Einde, Balthazar's Keuken
Middle Eastern: Zina (north African), Divan (Turkish)
Indonesian: Tempo Doeloe, Blue Pepper, Sama Sebo
Italian: Sa Seada
African game: Pygma-Lion
Seafood: Eenvistweevis, Le Pecheur
Belgian: Senz, De Brakke Grond
Soup/Salad lunch: Brasserie Joffers
Dessert menu (since you asked): College Hotel, De Witte Uyl, Dining Eleven
Chocolates to go: ArtiChoc
Beer: In 't Arendsnest, De Zotte
Chinese: Don't bother. Everyone talks about the oysters at Nam Kee, and they are pretty good, but nothing special if you've had good Chinese chow in LA, NYC, SF, etc.
Also avoid: Argentine steakhouses, most pancake places, anything on Leidseplein/Rembrandtplein/Damrak, Supperclub, Kantjil en de Tijger, and the food (as opposed to the good bar scenes) at Mansion, Vakzuid, or Strand West
Moeders (Mother's)
Rozengracht 251. 1016 SX Amsterdam
dpastor on Sep 28, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/329572
"We tried Mothers - mentioned frequently on this board - and it was fantastic. We were the only tourists, everyone else were young Dutch couples happily eating the sampler main course. The lobster soup was better than soups at more expensive restaurants and Mother's salad with cured beef - which was a soft, luscious tasty breasola-type meat. Too jet lagged for the sampler meal, I got the hotpot - which had great gravy with mashed potatoes and vegetables (that day it was mashed endives, which were really good) and ok sausage and meat. My husband got some vegetarian option - skip it. Next to us, I saw couples tuck into plates with hotpot and side plates of braised beef, red cabbage and a type of meat hash. How I envied them. No more pancakes for dessert (as recommended on this board) but a very good apple pie. Mothers is near the chic Jordaan section but far enough away not to be too touristy."
dpastor Oct 12, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/32957...
"I ate at Mothers last night on this boards recommendation. Atmosphere was super cute, charming, it was busy but intimate and very cosy. Wait staff adorable. Everything was great . . . but the food.
The crayfish (which the enlgish menu calls lobster) soup was very good. Everything else was basically enormous portions of very heavy, dutch standards . . . felt more like something you would get at a cafeteria than a restaurant. If you want a large portion of meat and with potatoes and cabbage and gravy than I suppose it is okay, but i think you might fare better at one of the cute places we passed on the walk from the dam to Jordaan, serving things like escargot, oysters . . . other tasty treats…
Yes, perhaps I should have been more explicit. Mothers restaurant is for people who like lots and lots of meat. Even their salad has meat in it, and quite good too. The vegetarian dishes were forgettable. It's for people who want the old-fashioned Dutch food."
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dpastor on Sep 28, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/329572
Von Dobbin serves the ultimate Dutch croquet - it is on Cort Reguliersdwarstraat with is near the Rembrantsplein, and is off Reguliersdwarstaat- a bit hard to find. Get there before noon if you can, it gets very busy. You order croquets, which come right from the kitchen, hot and crusty on the outside, molten on the inside. We got ossenworst (ox pate?) and roast beef sandwichs, as for the hard bread. Many people got the hot pork sandwich topped by a thick gravy. No tables, just stools.
Restaurant de Witte Uyl
Frans Halsstraat 26
1072 BR Amsterdam
tel. +31 (0)20 6 700 458
fatboy44 Jun 01, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26841...
"De Witte Uyl" is a great cozy "gezellig as the Dutch call it" restaurant with some good competent cooking. Great for an anniversary. We ate there a few month ago on a trip to Amsterdam and truly enjoyed the place.
Bradbury Jun 02, 2006
"I'll second the recommendation for De Witte Uyl. Great food and gezellig atmosphere, and Annemieke is the hostess-with-the-mostest ... get her talking and she won't lead you wrong."
Bradbury Jan 05, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26740...
"De Witte Uyl is in De Pijp, between Museumplein and Marie Heinekenplein and next door to an impossibly cool art gallery/custom bike shop (how Dutch is THAT?) It's much more gezellig than De Kas, with muted colors, warm light/candles, and "centerpieces" that are really vintage cognac selections. There's a seasonal menu from which you select two (equally-sized) courses, some wonderful desserts, and a small but very well-selected wine list. The proprietor, Annemieke, will make you feel like regulars on your first visit, and like family on your second."
Malaysia Restaurant Nyonya
Koveniersburgwal 38,
tel. 4222447
Opposite the Korenbloemen.
cytrey on Apr 29, 2006: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/268207
I just tried this new Malaysian place in the center of Amsterdam, Nonya (same name as the one in NYC), at 38 Kloveniersburgwal, near the Niewemarkt. It was unbelievably authentic and tasty. The laksa noodle soup was huge, full of prawns and other meats, and the soup base was just spicy enough with coconut milk. The Hainanese chicken rice was made the right way, with the rice cooked fresh everyday in chicken broth (I asked the chef about it). They even have a house special nasi goreng that I had never tasted before, and the chef was not too keen to divulge the secret recipe for it either. Just wanted to share this great find with anyone in Amsterdam or just passing through--especially since I find that the Indonesian food here is not all that terrific for a place that is famous for it.
Other Indonesian: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26781...
Bradbury Mar 03, 2006
"Other Indonesian options include:
Blue Pepper (Indo-moderne, pricier but probably worth it)
Desa (very authentic, great value but a bit further from center)
Tujuh Maret (much more casual, maybe better for lunch)
Sama Sebo (near museums, a bit touristy but still quite good)
Under no circumstances should you go to Kantjil en de Tijger, no matter how many tourist guidebooks they buy advertising in ..."
Cheap Eats: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/26750...
Bradbury Jan 20, 2006
"A few suggestions for those visiting this fair city on a tight budget (with a slight geographic bias toward my neighborhood, around the Museumplein and Vondelpark):
Tootsie - for the best club sandwich I've had anywhere in Europe
Riaz - for Surinamese rotis
Beyrouth - great, cheap, filling Lebanese
Tujuh Maret - next door to Tempo Doeloe, much cheaper and more informal, just walk in and sit down for yummy, reasonably-priced Indonesian
De Zotte - for 80+ Belgian ales and whatever their menu special is (they have a surprisingly good cook)
Cafe De Koe - for your cholesterol fix
't Smalle - no gourmet experience, but one of the best brown cafes, in the prettiest setting
Narbonne - weird but good mix of North African (great lamb specials), Mexican and Catalonian. Tasty and modestly priced, with two features rare in Amsterdam: huge portions and friendly waitresses
Kanis en Meiland - a pun on its location (KNSM Island), wonderful funky cafe with great soups and sandwiches, locals love it because of a) great waterfront scene b) tourists can't find it c) near some primo haute-design shopping"
Hi m - I hope you enjoy your trip to Amsterdam. The most important thing to remember about food in Amsterdam is: it is generally not very good. Have you ever heard of a Dutch restaurant? I live here and peruse chowhound to remind me of what good food is like!
I haven't been to most of the restaurants in the posts. After having been to a sample of 10-15 and been uniformly disappointed with the food (bad) and service (worse), one simply stops trying. My advice is to go ethnic - either Chinese or Middle Eastern (but not Indian!). One of the posts slags Chinese but I find it compares well with that in the Chicago Chinatown. Maybe nothing special but edible.
Yes, edible is the criterion I'm using. I cannot overstate: I have had more inedible restaurant meals here in 7 months than in my prior 39 years.
re: borisdad
Have a great time, it's a fun city. I was there in September and have to say that no matter how many restaurants you compile in a list, if you think you're going to be impressed with food in A'dam, you're sadly mistaken. It is definitely a melting pot, represented by lots of cultures. Unfortunately what that means for the restaurants is that you'll find lots of variety, but few real bright-spots. Service is exceedingly slow, so be prepared (I can't stress this enough). Your latte, toasted white bread with ham and tomatoes for "breakfast" (~10-11am) may take an hour at an outdoor cafe. We stayed around the Rembrandtplein and had lots of choice in the square (recommended). Enjoy!
re: azhotdish
I;ve actually been there before, although it WAS about 4 years ago. I thought the ethnic food there was excellent. esp the Indonesian.
re: mgarland
Yes, there is a lot of Indonesian and even Surinamese, but I didn't find any that particularly wowed me. Definitely interesting to try though if it doesn't exist in your city.
There's a good Indian place called Dosa on the Overtoom. It's south indian so they have dosas in addition to the usual chicken tikka masala stuff. Actually, their CTM is pretty good, and so is the veggie korma, saag paneer, etc. If you are stuck in leidesplein, I would recommend sauntering over to this place rather than being gouged by any of the nasty restaurants in the side streets of the plein itself. Cafe de Koe is good in that area too, but often full I have found.
Beyrouth's mezze platter is one of my favorite meals in the whole world. A great place for a gluttonous feast.
And, relatively unknown is a Japanese Eethuis called "Zen Delicatessen" on Frans Halsstraat, but this place has irregular hours and is only open until 8pm. Wonderful homestyle dishes though.
And...do not miss the Garnalen (shrimp) kroket at Bakkerij Holtkamp on the Vijzelstraat. Delicious and uniquely Dutch.
My favorite surinam place is Warung Marlon. Their Saoto soup is an msg-heavy delight. Closed tuesdays.
re: bolletje
I may try Dosa as I just got a menu in the mail and am desperate for Indian. The reason why I specifically warn against it is that I've had two very bad experiences with it. The first place, don't remember the name but it was on Albert Cuyp (but not Balti House,) was inedible. All the food was very sweet and bland. The dal makhani was extremely sweet and tasted like it was made with a healthy portion of coconut milk.
The second, Neetu Da Dhaba, was not much better. Again most dishes were overly sweet. The chicken vindaloo (very tomato-y) and naan, especially together, tasted oddly familiar, like pizza. Sure enough, upon examination I found the tell-tale flecks of oregano in both. Yuck.
I know the place that you're talking about on Albert Cuypstraat and I agree that it's not very good, neither is Balti House although a lot of Dutch people like it. Your Neetu da Dhaba story is so gross! Most of the Indian food in Amsterdam is a travesty, and Dosa is probably only good in comparison but I like it and they deliver all over the city. We used to get it delivered all the way to dam square and it was even still hot! I would recommend the delivery over eating in the restaurant because the decor in there is awful and it has that problem of most Amsterdam restaurants: It is soooo tedious, you can almost never grab a quick bite because the service is so slow. They are nice enough but I hate sitting in such an ugly restaurant for so long.
Another good Indian place is Shiva on the reguliersdwarsstraat, although it is a bit overpriced. It's problably the best Indian in town and actually a decent environment to eat in as well.
And...if you are craving dim sum, that place next to the buddhist temple on the Zeedijk, Hoi Tin, has really interesting stuff from 11-4 or 5 every day. No carts, but I love ordering dim sum off the menu. Some of the stuff is really bad, and their translations are crazy so I will recommend a few things I always get: gebakken fan ko (a sort of uber-fried shrimp dumpling that is also a bit sweet it's unbelievably yummy); something called gebakken naald rijst sticks, which is a lovely stir fried fat noodle with shrimp and roast pork; Wo Thep (a doughy pot-sticker); #244 on the menu (a meat and shiitake mushroom spring roll wrapped in bamboo skin and covered in garlic sauce); gestoomed panekoekjes met garnaalen (rice noodle rolls with shrimp) and they have good sticky rice, decent har gow and shumai...oh, and don't get the stuffed mushrooms or peppers, they are gross and covered in a viscous sauce.
re: bolletje
I've been to Hoi Tin for dinner and it was really good. Another place I like is called something like Mandarin Chinese Restaurant on Warmoesstratt (sp?) Nothing special but good dumplings and chinese broccoli.
Chinese is probably the best food I've had in Amsterdam and my family and I are going for dim sum tomorrow, on your suggestion!
Awesome! Hoi Tin seems to be less appreciated than it deserves but I always saw a lot of Chinese people dining there and they sell Chinese pastries as well. Definitely got the gebakken Fan Ko and let me know what you think. The dim sum experience there can be hit and miss because you can't see what you're getting and those wonky translations don't help in either English or Dutch...good luck. :)
I think I know the place you're talking about on Warmoesstraat. I've never been there but I heard it's pretty good and inexpensive.
I'll be in Amsterdam in January on my way to Dubai. I have a 6 hour layover on the way there, 12 hours on the way back. I need suggestions for a cafe for breakfast and a latte, and a nice pub with a good beer selection. Lunch will most likely be take-out/ street food. Any comments on tours would be appreciated as well. I'm adventurous and usually shun touristy stuff, but with only a few hours, it might be the way to go.


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Hi. I'm Krystyna Rittichier with About.com and today I'll show you how to make a baby sock monkey costume. This costume is simple and inexpensive to make, and requires basic sewing skills to make.
Materials to Make a Baby Sock Monkey Costume:
For this project you will need:
- A pair of infants stretch pants, 2 sizes too big
- An infants onesie, 2 sizes too big
- A sewing machine
- Thread
- A large adults sock monkey colored sweater
- A large adults tan sweater with ribbed edges
- A red sweater
- An infants hat
How to Start the Baby Sock Monkey Costume
Place the onesie and the leggings on the baby. Determine how long the sleeves and pants should be, roll them up and pin them at this point. Cut the onesie, the pants, and the hat in half along the seams to separate the front from the back. Cut the grey adult sweater in half, so that the front and back halves are separated. Cut the ribbing from the tan sweater, making the strips 2 inches wide.
How to Make the Baby Sock Monkey Top
To make the sock monkey top, line up the neck of the onesie with the neck of the adult sweater so you do not have to make a hem here. Pin the onesie to the sweater, and cut out the sweater fabric, leaving 1 inch of excess around the border. Cut off the excess sweater fabric so the fabric is even with the onesie sleeves. Unpin the sweater then place the cut out sweater on the onesie. Roll the edges of the sweater under, and pin this to the onesie to conceal the hems. Repeat these steps with the back half of the onesie and sweater.
For the ends of the sleeves, finish them with the tan ribbing. Tuck the unfinished half of the ribbing between the grey sweater and the onesie sleeve. Pin this in place, and trim the excess. Do the same with the other sleeve, and the sleeves from the back of the onesie. Stitch the neck of the sweater to the onesie on the ribbing. Stitch the bottom of the sweater to the onesie 1/2 inch up. Stitch the ends of the sleeves ½ inch into the grey fabric. Repeat this with the other side of the top. Pin the front and back of the onesie together, with the sweater sides facing. Sew the pieces together ¼ inch in avoiding the neck hole, the bottom hole, and the armholes.
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Now we'll do the same thing with the pants and the hat. To make the tail, cut out a long rectangle of grey sweater fabric 2 ½ inches wide. Cut out a rectangle of the tan sweater 2 ½ inches wide and 3 inches long. Pin the two rectangles together, then sew these together. With the hem side out, bring the ends of the rectangle together lengthwise. Pin this together, then sew it ¼ inch in. Sew the tan end of the tube closed, rounding the line. Turn the tube right side out. Pin the tail base to the pants. Hand sew tail to the pants.
To make the sock monkey face on the hat, start by cutting out 2 rectangles from the tan sweater fabric, which are 1 inch wide and 3 ½ inches long. Cut out another rectangle with these dimensions from the red sweater fabric. Sew the three rectangles into tubes lengthwise, then turn them right side out. Pin them together with the tan tubes overlapping the red tube at the ends. Hand stitch the tubes together doing your best to hide the stitches, working from the right side of the tubes. Center the tubes on the front of the hat. Roll the outer edges under and pin them in place so they make a large oval shape. Hand stitch the mouth to the hat. For the eyes, cut out two ovals from black felt. Place them just above the mouth shape, and line them up so the outer edges line up with the outer edge of the red in the mouth. Hand sew them in place with a loose stitch, and stitch until the eyes are securely attached.
Cut 4 squares from the grey sweater fabric, which are 4 by 4 inches. Pin 2 squares together 1 inch in on all except 1 side. Sew them together, rounding the two corners. Do the same with the other two squares. Line the tops of the ears up with the tops of the eyes, fold in the edges by 1 inch and pin the ears to the hat. Hand stitch the ears to the hat. The sock monkey costume is now complete.
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The summary suggests that the "performance should closely match the recently released Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell processor", but nothing in the article, or anything released about this chip so far, supports that. It's all just guesswork until we see some actual benchmarks from the chip.
I don't honestly expect we're going to be seeing performance parity from this chip (although I'd love it to be true). But that hasn't been AMD's selling point for me for a long time. Chances are, we're going to see a chip that breaks the 5.0 GHz barrier, under-performs relative to Intel's top end chip, but costs about half as much. That's been their game for a long time now, and I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that this chip is changing that.
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Show-off Shennie Jaffer jailed for death crash which killed Narmara Whisker
Posted: December 14, 2012|
A DRINK-driver who careered off a city centre bridge, killing a young mum, had been driving with no licence or insurance for 13 years.
A court heard Shennie Jaffer had more than twice the legal limit of alcohol in his breath when tested, nearly three hours after losing control of his BMW car in Passage Street and plunging into the Floating Harbour.
Jaffer, below, and three passengers escaped but 22-year-old Narmara Whisker, who had only recently become a mother, drowned.
Bristol Crown Court heard Jaffer, of Robertson Road, Easton, had been showing off and refused to slow down or stop even though his terrified passengers – who included his pregnant girlfriend – pleaded with him before the accident at 4am on October 20.
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Bristol Crown Court heard that although the car landed in water that was only just over one metre deep, front seat passenger Ms Whisker had banged her head and was trapped.
Jaffer dived into the water several times but his frantic efforts to free her failed and she drowned.
The court heard the 31-year-old then went home, where police later found him and his girlfriend, next to wet clothes.
Disoriented Jaffer initially told them they were "corrupt" in targeting him, before saying: "I tried to help her."
Jaffer was jailed for six years and eight months yesterday after pleading guilty to causing death by dangerous driving, driving with excess alcohol and driving without insurance or a proper driving licence.
He had previous convictions for failing to stop after an accident in 2004, when he was banned for a year, and failing to provide a breath specimen in 2009, when he was banned for two years.
Rachel Garstang, prosecuting, said Jaffer was seen driving his car in the car park of the Byzantium bar and restaurant in Portwall Lane, where he was doing handbrake turns and spinning the wheels.
Ms Whisker, who gave birth to a boy four months earlier, was in the front seat while in the back were Jaffer's pregnant girlfriend as well as Ms Whisker's cousin Lheirisha and Melanie Bickford.
Ms Garstang said at one stage a man fell on the windscreen and was thrown onto the roof before CCTV showed the BMW driving from the club at speed.
Witness statements from Lheirisha Whisker and Ms Bickford confirmed how Jaffer was driving "stupidly" but told he laughed and would not stop.
Passengers said he took corners wide and at one point one of them bashed their head on the window.
Ms Garstang said Jaffer lost control and crashed over the side of the bridge.
She said: "The defendant made attempts to free Narmara, pictured right, from the car. The three others got themselves out after he did, they got through the driver's window.
"When they got out the defendant and the other passengers remained, but then left. A security guard noticed the defendant had a strong smell of alcohol."
The court heard police tracked Jaffer to his address by his car registration number and found him and his girlfriend in a bedroom.
A test conducted at 6.44am revealed Jaffer had 76 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath. The limit is 35.
Jaffer told police he had never taken a driving test but had been driving nearly 13 years, almost daily, and felt he could drive well.
He said he had swerved to avoid a bollard and the car's back end stepped out.
Though he initially tried to blame the car for having a malfunction, a vehicle examination found no faults.
A victim personal statement from Narmara's mum, Jean, said the loss of her only daughter meant a piece of her had died.
She wrote: "I'm finding it very hard to come to terms with not seeing her again."
The court heard up to 1,000 people attended Narmara's funeral to celebrate her life.
Timothy Rose, defending, said: "There's nothing we can say that makes this any better.
"The mitigation is the guilty plea, the acceptance and my client's apology, which I don't suppose will be accepted and we understand that.
"That's all the defendant can say. That's all we can do."
Mr Rose said it could not be established how fast his client was driving before the crash.
He stressed that Jaffer stayed at the crash scene at first.
"He swam down into the river and made repeated efforts before he could not carry on any longer," he said.
Mr Rose said eventually his client walked away in shock and was found at home, disorientated, with his wet clothes beside him.
He said: "That disorientation was more than mere alcohol.
"When first spoken to he was aggressive and defensive. But he admitted matters regarding him driving in the police station.
"He was exuberant that night, in an excess of high spirits. Now he is very subdued, quiet and thoughtful and inevitably affected by it."
Passing sentence, Recorder of Bristol, Judge Neil Ford QC, told Jaffer: "Through your crass stupidity and dangerous driving you have killed a popular, vibrant and talented young woman.
"She leaves an infant son and you leave a family devastated.
"They, and you, will have to live with that for the rest of your days.
"You had no intention to cause any harm in this case. You apologise to those you have hurt so grievously. Maybe, in time, they will accept that but at the moment their grief will be very raw indeed."
Jaffer was told to take an extended driving test, banned from driving for seven years, and had his car forfeited.
Members of Ms Whisker's family, who attended court, as well as five supporters of Jaffer, declined to make any comment afterwards.


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