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> Clonidine Patch or Pills?
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Clonidine Patch or Pills?
oxy kid
Doc asked what would I prefer? Is either/or any better?
Has anybody had any experience with the patches?
I've never heard of the patches but I've had the pills. I suppose that if you're having trouble keeping anything down then the patches would be a good idea. Luckily, I don't have vomiting (knock on wood!) when I'm in w/d's.
oxy kid
No problems vomiting or anything, I was just wondering if there were any advantages to using the patch over taking the pill (wow, sounds like birth control). I have to opportunity to have either, so I'm just trying to figure out what the best is.
I prefer the patch although i had a horrible skin reaction to it. My arm (at the patch site) got very itchy, red and inflamed. The pills work too though, I just preferred the patch at the time.
Never had either of them... Does that shit really help on wds? And more to the point: Which one of the symptoms does it specifically help with?
port rhombus
Never had either of them... Does that shit really help on wds? And more to the point: Which one of the symptoms does it specifically help with?
It's supposed to address sympathetic nervous system dysfunction; sweating, blood pressure, etc. It's sedating, too, but I don't know to what degree it would actually help with w/d insomnia.
I haven't tired clonidine, but I've tried another alpha-2 adrenergic agonist, tizanidine, which did approximately nothing for me. It was a long time ago and I only tried withdrawing for a day before I gave in, so who knows.
Some people swear by it, it supposedly helps with the cold sweats and shivering a lot... then again I have never got the chance to use it in withdrawal, So I don't really know.
Yea its hard to tell if its working when you feel like you ate 6 xanax bars. That shit weighs me down like you wouldn't believe. If you're gonna take that shit make sure you start way waaay slow.
Does it stop the RLS?
Yes clonodine helps immensely with W/D's. Mainly insomnia, RLS, sweats, anxiety, and of course blood-pressure. Definitely a great addition to the W/D kit.
to anyone using it for the first time, be careful; i've taken too much or had really bad rebound blood pressure (ie standing up, my ears sounded like they were made of brass, felt like heart exploding, stroking out with every step), had to go to er (i wasnt in w/ds, it helps come down from psychotic breaks or bad trips too).
it didnt help with sleep the two nights/days i took it while cold turkeying, but i didn't puke and couldn't shit at all, and the chills werent as bad as they normally get even 8 hours without a shot. pills worked fine, but yeah i didn't puke. so yeah, i think it helps
Never had either of them... Does that shit really help on wds? And more to the point: Which one of the symptoms does it specifically help with?
YES, it does help, and it's good to know about, as it's easier to get than about anything that helps as much, at least here in the US..
Helps with overall anxiety, hot/cold flashes, blood pressure & heart rate, sweats.. Helps with a lot.
Dosage is key - I'd start with HALF of a 1mg tab, and work up by .5mg from there - start feeling lightheaded or like your blood pressure is low and you've had too much; it's a blood pressure med and being dopesick with really low blood-pressure sucks ass, everytime you stand up you headrush out and feel like you're gonna fall over. No fun.
Clonidine is the only drug I've been able to get in jail for wd, and it's common in detox and in prescribed "kick kits." It works on the primary part of your brain that is affected by dope and dopesickness, the hypothalamus, which regulates blood pressure, body temp, certain CNS functions like anxiety and "fight-or-flight" anxiety and panic type responses..
To me it's extremely useful in WD, but you have to be careful and not take too much. I've used it with some success to help sleep too..
I'd consider clonidine, benzos and loperamide to be probably the three most helpful drugs for wd that I've ever known, aside from obvious shit like unlimited seconal or GHB or something..
And yeah, don't take it around the clock because you can rebound hard from it.
Oh and I meant to say PILLS not patches, clonidine is definitely something you want to wear off soon if you decide you don't want it anymore.. I'd imagine the patches wear off a lot slower.
hydro chris
i have used the pills during w/d, they work well as everyone mention. i mostly only took
them to get some sleep but, they would only last it seamed for like 3 to 4 hours.
i used to wake up with this sorta numb feeling throughout my body for the first couple minutes.
which wasnt a bad feelin at all. sorry never tried the patches tho.
I am a CP patient, Since long before I have been on opiates I have been prescribed clonidine for hypertension (high blood pressure). The brand name is Catapres and I am prescribed 0.2 mg 2x/day, I wonder if it would still help me if I were to go into WD? Thankfully I have not, but sometimes I have to cut way back on my dosage of pain meds to make it last for the month. In those instances, besides the horrific pain, I feel slight WDs including bad cold sweats accompanied by the chills. I hope I never have to go through it full-blown as it I fear that the usefulness of clonidine will be lost on me as I have been using it daily for 5+ years
I fear that the usefulness of clonidine will be lost on me as I have been using it daily for 5+ years
Heh, honestly I really doubt that clonidine is so effective that "losing its usefulness" is something to be even remotely worried about.
I've never tried it, but I always figured that it was sort of a "Here you go, now beat it junkie" kinda drug.
oxy kid
So, I have 4 patches sitting here. Are they basically useless to me?
I'm sure I can get another script for the pills, I just dont' know what to do with these patches. Should I put one on right now and see how things go? Or just leave them alone?
I am using them purely for w/ds.
The patches are .1 a day and you wear them for a week. The pills are just the .1 tablets. So from here on out it seems like I should get the pills, but I want to get some use out of the patches. Since its spread out over time, could I put one on now and see if it helps me throughout the day. I havn't' had anything since thursday other than comfort meds (benz(kpins and xannies), somas, weed, alcohol, adderall, loperamide and now I have this clonidine sitting here.
I just want some clean time. I have access to enough opis to keep high and keep from being sick because of lowered my tolerance, but I just want to be able to go though the day without meds. I want clean time.
oxy kid
I did a quick done taper after a longgggggg sub maintinance "program" and I am so thankful that I did. I'm in complete mild wds and I'm hoping they'll be gone soon. Thursday morning was my last dose....had to take a piece of IR morph friday aftrenoon so wouldn't look stick in front of fam.
HELP! Give me advice!!!!! What should I expect, what should I do, etc.?
oxy kid
By the way, Just want to give an update on how I feel and what not.
Little yawning, tears a little, but not really any bad wds.
350mgs soma
1mg kpin
10mgs loperamide
10mg toradol
How much and how often should I take the loperaimide? I'm going to UTFSE right now, but there is always with somebody that can put in some awesome input.
oxy kid
I'm hot one minute, cold the next. Would the clonidine help that? I'm just trying to decide to throw this patch on or what. I was thinking with the patch, the small amounts throughout the day, it would keep me feeling be best instead of temp. relief from the tabs.
Are the patches even worth me putting on?
And thanks guys for helping me through this. 4 days, no opis at all. pretty pumped. Any advice or anything would be greatly appreciated.
oxy kid
Well just woke up from a little nap...that was nice. Just been laying around in the bed all day watching tv and movies.
Not really hurting too bad. I really dont' understand why things are worse than they are.
I still don't know what to do with these patches. In my theory, it seems like the small constant dose would be beneficial all day and night, instead of wearing off. I have the pill too. They are the smallest dose, .1, so I'm not worried about taking too much. Please somebody give me some input on what to do with these patches!!!
And also, I put in an earlier post, how much and how ofter do I need to be taking the loperamide?
hydro chris
i would just take the pills. theyll really help you relax some
oxy kid
i would just take the pills. theyll really help you relax some
At night, now, when? What do you think would be the best? I wish I wouldn't have volunteered for these damn patches.
hydro chris
depends, on how i would be feeling, they sedate me pretty well,i also build a little tolerances up with them..
seem like the first couple time i take them they work pretty well than i have to increase the dose. they also help me sleep really well but, i find that they only last about 4 hours even tho there still workin after 4 hours they dont seem to help me with w/d so id be careful if you redose. even after 24 hour i find my bp is still low so be careful man. imo i think they help we anxiety, rls, and other shit. i also think that clonidine also has their own hangover symptom which can make w/d fell worse then they really are. even if you take a half i bet youll feel it, then go from there..goodluck man take it easy.
oxy kid
Clonidine has a tendency to make me drowsy, so lets say theoretically I had to do something that would require me to be awake and alert, would it not make more sense to have the patch on? I would much rather just be able to take the pills, but I really want to get some kind of use out of these patches, its its worth it. If they are crap, I'll rip this one off my arm that I put on 20mins ago, and just get tabs if possible.
from wiki...
"Clonidine is increasingly used in conjunction with stimulants to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD)), for which it is administered in late afternoon or evening for sleep..."
So, does this mean your adderall/ritialin/whatever else raises your blood pressure and this gets it back down? I'm perscribed adderall, thats why I was wondering.
Just in the last 45mins-hour, I've been having a lot of the cold/hot, cold/hot, not being able to get situated feeling. I thought the clonidine might be able to help with that. So right now I have on a .1 patch that lasts a week. I'm just trying to get the most use out of what I have.
Also, should I take and extra careful when taking kpins to also help me with the anxiety and rls? They have been a lifesaver.
I don't remember who said this, but loperamide, benzos, and clonidine are life savers with w/ds.
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The Hungry Eye
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RAY SUAREZ: These stark, black and white, deceptively simple photographs are among the best known images of the rural South during the Great Depression. These pictures have become part of our memory bank, part of America's shared visual catalogue of a time long gone and places changed beyond recognition. When they first appeared 65 years ago, these pictures immediately established the reputation of an artist, who helped move photography in new directions as an art form: Walker Evans. For weeks now, people have been crowding a new exhibit of Evans' work at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York. Jeff Rosenheim is the curator of photography at the museum.
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM, Curator: I think Evans had a unique idea, which really distinguishes him from many other artists. He set himself up as a historical model to see the present as if it were already the past. And if he could do that at the time, he could stand for all time, and I think that his success is that he achieved his goal to photograph what was most American about America, but also to photograph those things in the present with the eye of tradition. And I think that those pictures are timeless.
RAY SUAREZ: Evans called the style he was striving for, lyric documentary. It was stripped down, meant to record the world as it is, instead of using a tool, the camera, to create a world the eye cannot normally see. Whether shooting the frank, unadorned, straight-ahead gaze of the poorest Americans, small- town streetscapes with no people to be seen, or decaying advertising signs, Evans' art simply emerged from knowing what to put in, and what to leave out.
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM: He wanted his role to disappear. He wanted to hide his hand, if you will, so that we can stand where he stood and look at the world and come to terms with it directly, unfiltered by the artist's perceptions, but of course influenced directly by them.
RAY SUAREZ: Evans was born in 1903, and raised in affluence. His desire to be a writer took him to Paris after the First World War. He started his life's work as a photographer when he returned to America in 1927. Throughout his life, Evans remained a blend of rebel outsider and well-groomed ivy- league sophisticate. His photos of the Brooklyn Bridge, illustrations for a book by his friend Hart Crane, began building his reputation. They were followed by journalistic work in the Caribbean for a book, "The Crime of Cuba." In the mid-1930's Evans was hired by the Farm Security Administration. He chronicled the grinding poverty of southern farmers, and indulged his own interest in southern architecture. Rosenheim says, unlike many of the New Deal artists, he did not have a political agenda.
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM: His agreement is no politics, whatsoever, that there would be no use for propaganda. He was not interested in that, but he was well aware that the agency he was working for was trying to illustrate the efforts by the New Deal administration to relieve some of the terrible poverty that has befallen America during the Depression, and that the efforts made by the New Deal administration to assist them was something, I think, he believed in. What he didn't believe in, is that art could change anything. He believed that the photograph as a record, as a document, would be the greatest thing that could ever have been created by the New Deal administration, and I think it has been.
RAY SUAREZ: It was during this same period that Evans traveled south with writer James Agee. The pair spent several months with the farmers of Hale County, Alabama, in preparation for an article for "Fortune" magazine that would never be published. Instead it became the book, "Let us Now Praise Famous Men," which along with the New Deal photos sealed Evans place in the history of American photography. But he wasn't close to finished. He took pictures for another 40 years. Evans' work was recognized almost immediately for the way it turned documentary photography into an art form. In 1938, the Museum of Modern Art in New York gave Evans their first-ever one-man show in photography.
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM: The art comes in, actually, in the things that are hidden in the picture. It's the angle of light, the illumination of the facade. If you look at one of these pictures, it's in the composition, that doesn't look like it's anything, but nature's composition or the civilization's composition.
RAY SUAREZ: Evans was fascinated with signs. He photographed them, and collected them. Like many earlier 20th century artists, he took ordinary things out of their environment, and treated them as art.
WILLIAM CHRISTENBERRY, Artist: I think he laughingly said that he was the father of pop art at one time, but his interest in things found, like that, those go quite a ways back in his work.
RAY SUAREZ: Artist William Christenberry helped Evans collect many of those signs.
WILLIAM CHRISTENBERRY: I think he was very much taken with, what I call the aesthetics of the aging process: How time and the elements, bullet holes, rust, whatever, can make something that was once in mint condition have a quality that is more interesting than if it were in mint condition.
RAY SUAREZ: While building the stature of photography, Evans also preserved for us lost pieces of the American past, like these photos taken in the New York City subways. They were taken in secret. Evans hid a camera in his coat, and ran a shutter release cable down his sleeve.
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM: And he would sit opposite his fellow passengers on the subway, and record a hidden, if you will, a surreptitious view of his fellow passengers: the idea being that he didn't like the artifice, and sort of falsity, of commercial portraiture, or studio portraiture. He basically felt like the most honest form of portraiture is a portrait of someone unaware that they're actually having their picture made.
RAY SUAREZ: In a project for "Fortune" on the working people of Detroit Evans hid in plain sight, holding his camera waist high, and quietly snapping passersby. He was fascinated by the variety of faces, classes, and attitudes of Detroiters in the modern economy. The Metropolitan Museum is not only home to thousands of Evans' photographs, but the kinds of artifacts that fill in the man behind the art hanging in the galleries. Evans collected thousands of postcards, admiring the straightforward way this format tells a story. The museum has his letters, his diaries, the books he read, the classified ads for his series on working men and women, and the outtakes from his photographic essays. They tell you more about what Evans was looking for in his work, and reassure you that even a master can take underexposed and out-of-focus pictures.
WILLIAM CHRISTENBERRY: Walker Evans' work influenced me greatly.
RAY SUAREZ: In the early 1960's, Christenberry was befriended by the older man. Christenberry himself came from the part of Alabama where Evans had made his famous pictures decades before. The two remained friends until Evans' death in 1975. In the early 1970's, the two men traveled to the same part of Alabama. By then Evans had switched to color and instant photography– the Polaroid SX-70. Christenberry describes his friend at work.
WILLIAM CHRISTENBERRY: He said, "would you look in the car in my duffel bag and get me a box of film?" SX-70 film, I said, "yes, sir," and when I took it back to him he was focusing the SX-70, which for me is kind of an awkward camera to focus, but he'd had it up to his eye. So I approached him, without interrupting, from his left side and I saw his eye looking through that lens. And the best way I can describe it, it was like the eye of an eagle. I mean it was really sharply focused. I don't know how to express that, but it was intense.
RAY SUAREZ: So Christenberry grabbed his own camera, and took this picture, a portrait of the artist, as an old man. In his last years, Evans taught at Yale and tried out the new tools advancing camera technology offered. He said, "the artist's eye must be hungry, and my eye is hungry."
JEFF L. ROSENHEIM: It's in the subway pictures. It's in the labor anonymous pictures, but I think it's in all of his work. It's the struggle between the individual and society. It's what the artist does. The artist is always somewhat distant from the society, in order to be able to observe it from that sort of necessary distance. You'd spoken about, you know, how do we look at photographs, and what does the photograph teach us? How is… What is the language of the camera? And I think Evans was one of the people that defined it.
RAY SUAREZ: The Evans retrospective is at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York until May 14.


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Because of failure to heed the limitations of the U.S. Constitution, which has produced runaway federal spending, our nation sits on the precipice of disaster. Former Senator Alan Simpson of Wyoming and Erskine Bowles, White House chief of staff under President Bill Clinton, co-chairmen of President Obama's debt and deficit commission, in a Washington Post article "Obama's Debt Commission Warns of Fiscal 'Cancer'" (July 12, 2010) said that "(A)t present, federal revenue is fully consumed by three programs: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The rest of the federal government, including fighting two wars, homeland security, education, art, culture, you name it, veterans – the whole rest of the discretionary budget is being financed by China and other countries."
The commission added the current budget trend is a disaster "that will destroy the country from within" unless checked by tough action in Washington. The tough action required is spending cuts in programs, including the so-called nondiscretionary, eating most of the federal revenues.
Federal tax receipts for 2009 totaled $2.1 trillion. The largest items in the federal budget were Social Security ($710 billion), national defense ($689 billion), Medicare ($456 billion) and Medicaid ($327 billion). The primary recipients of federal spending are seniors. Many of my readers have written me to argue that it's unfair to characterize what seniors are getting as handouts because they worked all their lives and paid into Social Security and Medicare.
Jagadeesh Gokhale, senior economic adviser, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland; and Laurence J. Kotlikoff, professor of Economics at Boston University document the looming Social Security and Medicare crises in "Is War Between Generations Inevitable?". They report that "A male reaching 65 years of age today (in 2000, the year of their study) can expect to receive $71,000 more in government 'transfer' benefits (of all kinds at both the federal and state levels, but mainly from Social Security and Medicare) than he will pay in taxes (of all kinds at both the federal and state levels) before he dies. A 65-year-old female can expect a net gain of more than twice that amount; she can expect $163,000 more in benefits than she will pay in taxes."
The picture is not so rosy for people who entered the labor force in 2000. They will pay far more in taxes than they will receive from transfer programs. Expansion of elderly handouts, such as prescription drugs, will make things worse. "For example: A 20-year-old female can expect to pay $92,000 more in taxes than she will receive in transfer benefits over her lifetime. The future looks more than three times as bleak for her male cohort, who can expect to pay $312,000 more in taxes than he will ever receive in benefits."
Why is Social Security a better deal for today's seniors? Just look at what they paid in. From 1937 to 1949, the maximum annual Social Security tax was $60. It remained under $200 until 1956. After 1956, Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance was added and in 1966, Medicare was added. It wasn't until 1969 that maximum Social Security taxes exceeded $2,000. Today, the maximum annual Social Security tax is $13,000 and the maximum annual benefit is $25,000.
As with any Ponzi scheme, the people who get on board early make out. This is pointed out by Geoffrey Kollmann and Dawn Nuschler of the Congressional Research Service in their report "Social Security Reform" (October 2002) They say, "Until recent years, Social Security recipients received more, often far more, than the value of the Social Security taxes they paid. … For example, for workers who earned average wages and retired in 1980 at age 65, it took 2.8 years to recover the value of the retirement portion of the combined employee and employer shares of their Social Security taxes plus interest. For their counterparts who retired at age 65 in 2002, it will take 16.9 years. For those retiring in 2020, it will take 20.9 years." My question is: How can anyone who draws out every penny he's put into Social Security in a few years say that he's not living at the expense of another?
It takes a special form of callousness and disregard for the welfare of future generations of Americans for today's senior citizens to fight against reform. Nobody's talking about abolition of federal senior programs. We must accept that serious mistakes were made and we must take compassionate corrective action. But what the heck! Both today's politicians and seniors will be dead so why should they make sacrifices now to prevent an economic calamity decades off into the future?
Walter E. Williams
for Whiskey & Gunpowder
August 25, 2010
You failed to mention the way SS funds are invested back into U.S. Treasury bonds of which is spent by the government witin moments of receipt. The interest paid by the bonds is added to the value of the SS trust, of course this "fake" money is then spent by the government. But the worst blow is that the interest paid on the SS funds is nothing more the collection of taxes on the very same people who are forced to contribute to SS. So the actual return on funds is somewhere south of zero, if one recieved his true payout, you know, like real pension plans.
If the fools in government would just open and excel spreadsheet, and calculate the savings that they would accumulate, at just 5%, with their SS funds (along with employer funds), they could get about as much with about a 3% return, and never touch the principle.
"Both today's politicians and seniors will be dead so why should they make sacrifices now to prevent an economic calamity decades off into the future?"
I'm not that conviced that the calamity is decades off into the future, given the present monetary/fiscal policies.
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I started paying into Social Security as a newspaper delivery boy in the 1940s. Working class Americans and their employers "contributed" to this 75 year old pension plan. It has repeatedly been raided by deficit spending federal governments, and is no longer even pretended to be a contributory system. Today, it is simply another tax-supported "entitlement" now known as the "payroll tax". Our Fed and Treasury have been looted by war profiteers and Wall Street speculators, who were "bailed out" at an estimated cost of $2 trillion!!! Yet, when the power elite look for new money, what do they see? Social Security leeches–taking more out than they paid in, with no concern for future generations. What an insult to those (like me) who served in combat and were finally able to survive long enough to receive pensions. Goldman Sachs, on the edge of bankruptcy in 2008, was a year later paying million dollar bonuses. If our "leaders" have to cut off SS "benefits", please have the courage to admit what you are doing and the courtesy to respect honest, hard working American seniors. RT Carpenter, Florida
And what is worse, what was paid in by my generation is not really covered by social security because of the inflation which makes the future dollars paid out to during retirement worth much less than those we paid into the system decades ago. As always, it doesn't matter how many dollars we have to spend, it's the amount of matching goods and services available to purchase with those dollars. Given our present situation in an ever deepening depression, by the time my part of the Romper Room (Baby Boomer) Generation – which is the peak of the buldge – reaches 65 in 2019 we will most likely recieve nothing significant either due to inflation or outright default. And that, after a life time of intense competition for what's been out their to earn and spend on over the last 38 years since graduating from high school in 1972 along with the biggest class relative to total population in history. Sad really.
As usual; always a pleasure to read your words and hear your logical voice.
if the government offers to return my social security contributions to me with a reasonable long term rate of return, say 5% compounded annually, i will gladly take it. any likelihood of that happening do you think?
otherwise, pay me the benefits that were promised and stop complaining. there is plenty of slack in the federal budget, especially the costs of fighting two pointless wars. as ron paul notes; we marched in and we can march right back out. cut the military down to the size needed to protect the united states and it's amazing what we can afford.
If you retire in 2020, you'll still get a social security check … with inflation, that might be just enough to buy a loaf of bread.
I have written my proposal for privatizing SS to guarantee a minimium return for the younger taxpayers. Wll not happen. Also, I have pointed out that minorities are scammed. Especially if the eligibility age is increased. Male blacks start work at earlier ages than whites as they leave schools earlier. Their life expectanciy is several years less than whites. They are at present slated to receive fewer years of payouts. Increasing the age eligibilty will exarcerbate the problem.
Reviewing the present payout qualifications for people who have not contribited to SS and to the scam of disability claims on SS will save billions. In Southeast Arkansas, the number of disability recipients far surpasses any normal metric. It has become a racket. At 88 years of age, I am not worried about my SS payments. I cringe at what I perceive awaits the coming generations.
The direct cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are in the vicinity of $200 billion per year, give or take. The deficit is around $1.5 trillion, and is expected to be around a trillion dollars per year for a goodly number of years. By comparison, the war cost is chump change.
You add up SS, Medicare, Medicaid and the interest on the already-ridiculous national debt, and you've pretty much used up the government's tax-take for the year. And then?
Joe Sixpack can't spend his way to prosperity, either…
Social Security, like all ponzi scemes, will end in flames. The wise will follow the advice of our own Ms Trahern, and load up on hard assets while they are still available.
Social Security, like all ponzi schemes, will end in tears for those at the bottom of the pyramid. The wise will take the advice of our own Ms Trahern, and load up on hard assets.
The comments clearly point out the issues: 1-It is the present value of contributions that should be used in these comparisons, not just dollars contributed (or taken if you will); 2-If payments were only made to those that paid in, the system would work. Instead, the fund was hijacked by politicians and spent to buy votes. With no thought to replacement, the fund is doomed.
Dear Nranallo: Welcome to the crew. Very well put!
Walter – Love your columns – keep them coming. Reflected a moment on your latest. Here's my take: Have for some time resented the large annual remittances to SS. Your bottom line seems to be that if I begin to collect SS at 65 I've got to live to ~86 to collect what I have "contributed. Did I get that right? Would have been far happier (as I've already alluded) to have kept & invested my own money. And it would be mine or my heirs. If I pass on to my reward before age 86 (as most will), Uncle Sam ends up to the good. When SS elligibility is raised to age 70… Would appreciate your thoughts. Geoff
Taking money from one group of citizens at gunpoint to give to another group is NOT compassion.
and even that little bit shows the luck some people have, as some could never get employed and if lucky paid cAPITAL GAINS TAXES ON ALL GAIN AS INCOME PAYING AT TIMES 50 PERCENT OF INCOME AND GETTING NOTHING TOWARD sOCIAL sECURITY…JUST MORE RIP0OFFS…FOR NOT BEING POILITICALLY CORECT , AND having to make ones own workings.
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If I were to take money out of my personal savings acct, should I be surprised that it doesn't accumulate interest and grow in value? Our government has been taking from our social programs for generations and has not paid any of it back. No wonder the social programs wither! For example, Obamacare was partially paid for by $500 mill taken from Medicare. These dollars were supposedly to be from fraud and waste from the program. If the fraud and waste was known already, why was it not curtailed years ago?!
Also Social Security recepients were not given a cost of living raise for 2010 and 2011. How many other years has that been done? Poor senior citizens whose expenses grow with inflation every year see the money they relie on for food, housing, and utilities get less and less. No wonder you hear "Jokes" about senior citizens eating dog food because they cannot afford real food. The population grew astronomically after WWII, and as those kids grew older, there taxes paid for the smaller amount of SS/MC recipients. Thus the Ponzi scheme worked, as they will do initially. Now the Baby Boomers are retiring and the number of workers paying taxes for the social programs has dwindled, thus, annually, the ratio of workers paying for their share of benefits received by our senior citizens goes down as well. Hmmm, time for a major flu epidemic to bring equality so the Ponzi scheme can run a while longer. The elderly are at greater risk for exposure to flu germs, etc.
"But what the heck! Both today's politicians and seniors will be dead so why should they make sacrifices now to prevent an economic calamity decades off into the future?"
I beg your pardon? I've been robbed by the government for decades – given NO choice in the matter. Had I invested that money myself (or just put it in a shoebox), I'd be better off. When money is taken from my pocket and not given back – that is THEFT. Tell you what, all I ask for is what I've paid in. I'll donate any "reasonably expected interest" to the social insecurity program. I'll stop contributing to that precarious gamble of a program and the government can immediately give me back every penny I've paid in. Anything less is theft. You want sacrifice? How about criminal charges and civil lawsuits against EVERY member of congress and past/present presidential administration. Lower their wages 40%, sieze their assets for sale, impose fines for theft against the american public. Examples are set from the top down. I hear they make pretty good money; great lifetime benefits and pensions. THAT'S where the sacrifice should start. I have sacrificed – I've been robbed for decades and have not and my never receive a penny back!
Once the Federal Government takes my 401K to pay down some of this debt, we will be back to sqaure 1.
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Jack, Congress has its eyes on your 401(k) but what makes you think it will pay debts with it?! We're talking about a "windfall" in the trillions of dollars, and they can buy a lot of votes with that.
Socialized Insecurity was a dreadful idea from the start, compounded by politicians taking the money as it came in, piled on with Medicaid, welfare, giveaways to illegals, and the incessant growth of government. I was an admirer of Dr. Williams' from the early Nineties until recently when he began to preach that the solution is for sweet little old ladies to sell their houses and move in with their children rather than "leech" off the younger generation indirectly. The best solution I can see is to clean up the waste and corruption, and then phase out the program over time, starting with an arbitrary age of perhaps 45 for those who will just have to accept that SS is just another tax, but they will receive no benefits. Twenty years is enough to make better preparations for their futures. Freeze ALL giveaways at present levels and whittle away at programs which should never have started, such as Medicade and Medicare. Revoke all pensions for Congress and cut salaries to minimum wage. Hey, if he can hold that it is honorable to default on a contract with the Baby Boomers, what makes Congress special? Most of them are, or are married to, millionaires. Reverse policy and hold government salaries to prevailing wage in private enterprise–and do the same with unions. Spread the misery around. Cut out all foreign aid. We have problems of our own. Close the borders, stop all immigration, cut off all welfare effective 1/1/11. Yes, there would be blood in the streets. There is going to be no matter what we do or do not do because half of us can no longer support the other half and should never have been expected to do so. Funny how those of us who produce are never considered under the phrase "the general welfare."
THE ANSWER IS… YOU CAN'T SEIZE MY SS FUNDS IN THE 1970S AND GROW INFLATION TILL A LOAF OF BREAD(25 CENTS IN 1956 WHEN I GOT MY FIRST W2) IS NOW NEAR $4 AND TELL ME I DIDN'T PAY MY FAIR SHARE! ITZ MY MONEY AND I WANT IT BACK. " My question is: How can anyone who draws out every penny he's put into Social Security in a few years say that he's not living at the expense of another?"
The answer is… you CAN'T seize my SS funds in the 1970s and grow inflation until a loaf of bread (25 cents in 1956 when I got my first W2) is now near $4 and tell me I didn't pay my fair share! It's MY money and I want it back,
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Ask it to Bulis is a regular feature wherein casual readers and hardcore Bulies alike can put their questions to two guys no more qualified to answer than they are. Harrison and Daniel preside:
Greatest Canucks' mustache: Babych or Snepsts? – @staticotaku
H: Tough first question. I'm gonna go with Snepsts, and for totally subjective reasons. It was a slightly fuller, more unkempt mustache that covered a little more area. And because of its downward curvature, he looks the most like Mr. Johnson, the beleaguered blue Muppet who constantly makes the mistake of eating at Charlie's Restaurant, where Waiter Grover works. I have so much sympathy for Mr. Johnson, as there were clearly no other restaurants in Sesame Street (like the Red Robin in Maple Ridge), I can't help but love Harold Snepsts.
H: Because MSN.com has the last word on this, apparently.
H: Yes and no. The Canucks don't play Schneider in games to actively showcase him to other teams. Organizations have scouts so that teams don't have to do that. However, the Canucks are definitely going to trade him eventually, and Schneider's great play is turning every one of his starts into a showcase. Effectively, and we've said this before, Schneider is showcasing himself.
H: I can safely say I have no idea what Schneider will fetch in a trade. His potential is immense, but there's little frame of reference for his open market value. Some people have pointed to Jaroslav Halak as a frame of reference (who fetched a decent prospect and a third), but I think it's a completely different situation. Schneider's younger, projects to be better, and, if the Canucks trade him this offseason, he won't require contract negotiations on the heels of a breakout postseason that could have been a fluke. Halak's situation was unique because his value spiked suddenly, and St. Louis got him for relatively cheap because they were willing to deal with that. That's why Schneider's value will be the highest if the Canucks trade him after this season: he'll still be on an affordable deal.
There are risks with acquiring Frecklesnoot too. His likely price means that he has to play like a starter for a GM to justify his acquisition. It's risky, especially since Schneider has still only played a handful of NHL games–his body of work is impressive, but it's a small sample size on which to judge the rest of his career. A hesitant GM could point to the team in front of him. You've probably noticed the Canucks are the best team in the NHL, and that tends to inflate stats. That said, Schneider still has the appearance and pedigree of a future stud, and there are teams out there I have to believe are eager to acquire his services.
The Canucks won't trade him until the offseason. Schneider remains an acceptable option if Luongo suffers a postseason injury or meltdown. And, if the Canucks go deep into the playoffs (or, perish the thought, win the Cup), then Schneider's value goes up yet again because he's got playoff experience on his impressive resume.
Why and how did you pick Bulis as your blog's mascot? — @artemchubarov
D: The phrase "Pass it to Bulis!" dates back to the 2007 playoffs, when the Canucks faced the Stars in the first round. As you may recall, game one of that series went an absurd four overtimes and was the 6th longest game in NHL history. It was an insane game: Brent Sopel had injured his back prior to the game picking up a cracker. The players needed intravenous fluids to stay hydrated between periods. Both Burrows and Cooke were injured early and ended up as the only players on the Canucks to play fewer than 20 minutes. Willie Mitchell led the Canucks with over 47 minutes in icetime. Crazy.
H: Stupid Bulis? How dare you speak ill about the patron saint of this blog! I would never.
What made Wellwood so endearing to you? — @indelibleline
H: Well, he's adorable. But I think we've been drawn to Wellwood because he's such a unique personality. Welly's unique, but he's also uniquely self-aware in that he can speak honestly about his quirks. This is a guy who once called himself the weakest guy in the NHL, and he's never backed down from that or tried to fix it. He just doesn't like to work out. He's got incredible skill, but sometimes I think he kinds of regrets it, maybe wishes he did something else. He seems like the rare guy for whom it's just a job, and I think I admire that, because I recognize those feelings of wage-earners' ennui in myself. We are all Kyle Wellwood.
Why are Canucks fans finding things to rag on Luongo about? Is he forever going to be the focal point of fans' whining? — @camdavie
H: Yes. Luongo's been touted as the savior of a skeptical Canucks' fanbase, and they're constantly looking for flaws in his game to validate their pessimism. There are a number of other factors, too. First, people don't really understand the goaltending position or how situational it is. They don't understand that no goalie stops every shot, or that Martin Brodeur, widely believed to be the greatest goalie of all time, played much better behind a solid defense in a solid defensive system. Marty's not playing so well these days, but nobody's clamoring to strip him of his legacy. They understand he doesn't have the team in front of him that he once did. Luongo, on the other hand, takes the blame for every goal that goes in, because he has yet to achieve the Brodeur-like success people expect of him, and Cup-hungry fans examine those expectations in a vacuum.
Are the Canucks happy with Bieksa and Hamhuis as the shutdown pair or are we short a top stay-at-home D? — @arby18
H: I think they're extremely happy with the pairing. Bieksa and Hamhuis are a shutdown defensive pairing that moves the puck exceptionally well, but if you want to know where their real strengths are, it's along the boards. Between Hamhuis' team-best hipchecking and Bieksa's team-best pinching, these guys control the boards in both zones, severely cutting down on the workload in front of their own net.
Do we have a number one defenceman? — @beninvictoria
H: Yes we do. His name is Alex Edler. Although I know what you're getting at. The Canucks rely heavily and equally on four guys. I think Canuck fans see guys like Lidstrom, Pronger, Keith, or Doughty, and assume we can't win unless we have a perennial all-star like that, and we don't.
But the assumption isn't true. Other Cup prerequisites that aren't true: you can't win with a Euro captain; you can't win with a high-paid netminder; a skilled team can't beat a gritty team; you can't win with a questionable fourth-line. Here's what happens every year: the best team in the NHL wins the cup, and then people extrapolate their strengths and claim that's the special formula for winning. Think about the previous Cup winners and how, every season, the radio guys claim the Canucks don't have enough of whatever that team's best element was. Carolina didn't have a defensive stud. Detroit had a Euro captain. Marc-Andre Fleury made five million a year.
The Canucks have a different model for their defense than Chicago did, relying equally on four guys rather than heavily on two. If it works out for them, you'll hear people saying you need two top pairings rather than one. If it doesn't, people will continue to clamour for a defensive stud to anchor the defense.
Why is Samuelsson playing [badly]? — @RE4713
H: He isn't. Samuelsson has been fourth in team points almost all season, and still remains the top scorer after the Sedins and Kesler. He remains one of the team's headiest players, and his patience and stickhandling continue to make room for his teammates. He plays a similar plodding style to the Sedins, however, and that confuses people who think: slow=bad; fast=good.
That said, he's not playing as well as last season, but last season was a bit of a peak year for him. An inordinate number of his goals were fluky (Sam's Surprises, we called them). He was bound to come back to earth, and he has. Unfortunately, this is why people are on him. Ignore the decreased goal totals and look a little closer: you'll see he's still making massive and valuable contributions.
One of my friends thinks the Sedins should be the first option for defensive zone faceoffs. He says that a team should send out their best players to defend their own zone against the opposition's top line because they have the skill to break up plays and exit the zone, with possession. I disagree and would like to hear your thoughts. — Reid
H: The short version: you're right and your friends are wrong. The long version: zone starts are one of the ways a coach can manage the game from the bench, and it's a pretty simple principle. Get your offensive stars out in the offensive zone, where they have a headstart on what they do best. Conversely, get your top defenders out in the defensive zone for the same reason. Why do otherwise? Your best offensive players may stickhandle out of the defensive zone, but they waste their energy playing defense and skating through the neutral zone, then all they've got left is to dump it in and change. If you have a choice, you start them in the offensive zone and hope they stay there.
H: Right. Your friends are the stupid ones.
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Haha Im glad you guys agree with me and thanks for sharing your thoughts. But, i feel the need to point out that my friend (Matt) is a very smart dude. Ive even heard others use the term "genius" in reference to him. Im serious.
To support his argument, he used the Penguins strategy of using Crosby for defensive zone faceoffs quite often (only 47% of his faceoffs are in the offensive zone compared to 67% for Hank, per BEHINDTHENET.ca). Where he goes wrong is in implying that this strategy should be used by the Canucks who, unlike the Penguins, have two excellent faceoff men in Kesler and Malhotra to take care of the defensive zone and let the Sedin's work their magic in the offensive zone.
It will be interesting to see if Crosby gets more offensive zone starts when Staal gets back. Could he possibly put up even more points than the first half of the season?
Matt will be happy to know that the internet now knows that he isnt stupid. Thanks for clarifying.


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Injury Roll Call: Matt Kemp Progressing, Scott Elbert Undergoes Another Elbow Surgery
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Well needless to say it was a rough week for the OJHL west division as they combined to go 1-4-2 in non-divisional games. Other than Georgetown's win over Pickering the only other victories for the division were Buffalo over Orangeville and Hamilton over Georgetown. With the Governor's cup coming up it is a perfect time for the division to turn things around and showcase its strength.
Game of the Week Review
Hamilton Jr Redwings @ Georgetown Raiders
For the second week in a row the OJHL west game of the week review takes us to Georgetown as this week the Raiders took on the upstart Hamilton Redwings. What looked like a mismatch on paper at the beginning of the season started changing after the first week as the Redwings came into this one with a 2-0 record against west division opponents and the Raiders had failed to live up to their lofty preseason rankings.
The first period however was played as if it were planned in the preseason with Georgetown buzzing the net and peppering Hamilton Goalie Corey Foster with 17 shots on goal. Anthony Marra was able to cash in on one of those chances to put Georgetown up by 1 in the first half of the opening Stanza. Luckily for the Jr Redwings Foster brought is "A" game and that was all the Raiders were able to muster. Late in the first period however the most exciting play in hockey occurred as the Jr Redwings were awarded a penalty shot although they were unable to convert and the Raiders entered the first intermission up 1-0
The second period the Jr Redwings kept it a lot closer. After being outshot 17-10 in period one the kept it much closer as Georgetown was only able to muster a 10-9 shot advantage. Just before the halfway mark Niko Porikos got Hamilton on the board to tie it at 1. The teams would exchange goals in the latter half of the period with Hamilton's coming in the dreaded final minute and we were deuces wild. Tied at 2's through 2 periods of play.
The third period the Raiders were all over the Jr Redwings outshooting them by a 16-7 margin. Unfortunately for the hometown team this onslaught did not deter the visiting Redwings as they took their first lead of the game inside 2 minutes. While the Raiders were able to tie things back up at 3 the Jr Redwings retook the lead for good as Christian DiGiacinto notched his 5th in 4 games with '97 born rookie Josh Chariot picking up his 2nd assist in as many games. The Jr Redwings would add an empty netter and skate out of Georgetown with a 5-3 win
You can't help but be impressed with this Jr Redwings team. After winning only 4 times in regulation last year they have already notched 3 such wins this season with all 3 coming against divisional opponents. Who knows what the rest of the season has in store but this is a team that I can see getting better and better as the year goes on.
West Division 3 Stars
1)Corey Foster (Ham)
The Hamilton native picked up his 2nd win of the season in a 40 save effort against division rival Georgetown.
2)Peter Angelopoulos (Ora)
The Orangeville trigger man added 4 goals and 2 assists in 3 games during week 2 and has now scored in all 6 games he has played this season. If only the Flyers could find some secondary scoring.
3)Pat Egan (Buf)
In Buffalo's only game of the week Pat picked up a goal (game winner) and an assist in leading the jr sabres to a 7-3 win over Orangeville.
Rookie of the Week
Josh Chariot (Hamilton)
The '97 born rookie and Hamilton Huskies Alum quickly made his presence felt for the Hamilton Jr Redwings as he picked up 2 assists in 2 games. Josh assisted on the only Hamilton goal Monday against Kingston and on the game winner against Georgetown on Wednesday.
Part of the local youth movement in place in Hamilton, Josh a North Bay (OHL) draft pick looks like quite the pickup someone who I am sure we haven't heard the last of this season.
Honourable mention: Dennis Gilbert (Buf) 2 assists in 1 game.
Team of the Week
Buffalo Jr Sabres
Well it was a rough week for the west division as the Buffalo Jr Sabres were the only team to go undefeated. Yes even though it was only 1 game and it happened to come against last place Orangeville it was still enough for me to edge them over the Hamilton Jr Redwings who get the honourable mention for a 2nd week in a row.
It was a balanced attack that led the way for Buffalo as they scored 7 goals against Orangeville and no player had more than 2 points in the game. With 2 games this week one against the vaunted Trenton Golden Hawks and a showdown with Mississauga in the Governor's Cup the Jr Sabre's will be needing some more of that balanced scoring.
Honourable mention: Hamilton Jr Redwings
Game of the Week Preview
Milton IceHawks vs Toronto Lakeshore Patriots Saturday September 28th 8 PM
After having all of week 2 off the Icehawks have 3 games in week 3. What makes this match against TLP special is the potential goalie match up. With Ben Blacker entrenched as the starting goalie in Milton and Jeremy Helvig getting time in net for TLP you could see a matchup of the top 16 year old goalies in the OJHL. To top it all of this game has a prime time slot of 8pm at the Governor's cup. While it may be a mismatch when looking at the standings this potential goalie match up makes it a must see for


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July 4, 1776, was a big deal here.
OK, so Charlestonians didn't find out about that date's momentous Philadelphia event until well past July 4, 1776.
Hey, that was before newspapers got into Twitter.
But the Charleston-based South Carolina Gazette did publish the Declaration of Independence on Aug. 2, 1776.
July 4, 1876, wasn't nearly as big a deal here — at least for white folks. Many of them still weren't inclined to cheer for a Union preserved — and a Southern bid for independence crushed — by a bloody Civil War that had ended only 11 years earlier.
Then again, that outcome was a literally liberating experience for black folks, who thus had a justifiably jubilant feel for Independence Day.
By July 4, 1976, most South Carolinians, regardless of race, had long rightly recognized the glorious Fourth as a grand occasion for national celebration.
According to the next day's News and Courier, an estimated crowd of 20,000 showed up for a bluegrass concert at Boone Hall Plantation.
The South's Oldest Daily Newspaper (we still are) also reported: "A planned concert by the Navy Band at White Point Garden failed to materialize. Participants in a craft show there said the imminence of rain may have kept the band away."
Don't feel bad if that no-show has vanished from your fading memory banks.
After all, it happened quite a while back: Joe Riley had been Charleston's mayor for less than seven months.
A Jam shagging shame
Today, July 4, 2013, spectacular fireworks shows will light up our local Independence Night sky.
However, before attending tonight's Uncle Sam Jam at the Mount Pleasant Pier, beware that it will feature the unseemly spectacle of people — many far past their dancing primes — "shagging" to "beach music."
And before overlooking the transforming historic significance of this date and that Declaration, remember that Thomas Jefferson wrote the epic document with a little help from fellow Founding Father friends John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Robert Livingston and Roger Sherman.
Remember that South Carolinians Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward Jr., Thomas Lynch Jr. and Arthur Middleton signed it. (Rutledge, like Middleton a Charlestonian, was the youngest of the Declaration's 56 signers at 26.)
Remember that you don't have to be in the written-word business to remain awed by the majestic wording of:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."
This defiant conclusion is also still stirring: "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
Still alive and kicking
Our newborn nation, like the men who created it, wasn't perfect. It still isn't.
Yet our Declaration of Independence remains about as perfectly written as an assertion of collective — and individual — human freedom can be.
And on this 237th birthday of these United States, our country remains a light of liberty for the world.
So regardless of your political leanings, find fresh inspiration in that founding Declaration.
If you're a conservative, don't get too down about liberals running the White House and U.S. Senate.
If you're a liberal, don't get too down about conservatives running the U.S. House and the S.C. governorship and Legislature.
If you're a moderate, face up to the fact that vigorous and even bitter debate comes with the self-governing territory.
So does voting out one crowd and voting in another one.
And if you want to hear some Revolutionary music, check out today's fife-and-drum performance at Middleton Place — which used to be Declaration signer Arthur Middleton's place.
But please, don't shag to it.
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Teaching the Bible has taken me around the world
Over the 19 years of my teaching career I have taught in 12 community colleges, colleges, universities, Bible colleges, and seminaries in the USA, and I have also been blessed to teach in Belize, Nigeria, and India.
In Belize I taught at a small Bible institute outside of the capital of Belize. It holds classes three times a year for one-week sessions each time. The institute meets at a Christian camp.
The students were amazing. They traveled from different parts of Belize to the camp, and they used different methods to get to the camp, but one of the students really stood out.
He lived in southern Belize on a five-acre plot of land. He was married, had two children, and they grew most of their food. He traveled for three days to get to the camp (and Belize is small). He walked, hitchhiked, and rode the bus, and slept wherever he was at night. He couldn't afford to ride the bus the whole way.
We met in an open air pavilion for class. The students slept in one long building with two large rooms, men on one side and women on the other side. They slept in metal bunk beds and each side had a common bathroom. They did that three times a year for the 2 ½ years it took to graduate. Many of those students were not ordained and would not lead a church. They did it because they wanted to become better Sunday school teachers!
In Nigeria I taught at a seminary in a very rural area run by a Nigerian denomination. Nigeria is mainly Islam in the northern part and Christian in the southern part, and I was about in the middle of Nigeria. The seminary was Christian, but the king of the village was Muslim. Five times a day for the three weeks I was there the Muslim call to pray rang out over the village.
The students were amazing. Many of them were married, and each family was given a small plot of land on which to grow their food. Three days a week the local market opened up in the little village and they could buy meat there, if they could afford it.
I was shocked at one point: the denomination was excited because they were sending a missionary to a country they had been praying about for a long time: the USA. Today they have a number of missionaries in America!
The area had no electricity but the seminary had a generator which they ran for two hours each night. I asked why and was told that it allowed the students to study two hours longer. Sure enough, the library was packed each night with students studying as much as they could before it went dark.
In India I taught at a seminary in a city of four million people (Chennai). Many believe the Apostle Thomas lived and died there. I was able to go to a cave where he supposedly lived, and to a catacomb under a church where he was supposedly buried.
The students were amazing. They went to school from Tuesday through Friday. Each weekend they scattered to different churches and spent Saturdays and Sundays helping pastors. On Sunday night they came back to campus, and Monday was a free day.
On school days they wake up, eat, do a half hour of assigned chores, attend a half hour of chapel, and then go to classes until 2:00. The bathrooms have stalls with a hole in the middle which you squat over (no toilets). They are not allowed to have cars, and they have to wash their clothes on campus. Since the campus does not have washers and dryers, each person washed his/her clothes by hand and hung them to dry. Each student did that for four years!
I do run into some amazing Christians overseas: they make huge sacrifices in order to learn about the Bible. I love teaching them, getting to know them, and learning from them.
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4 cups
all-purpose flour
1 cup
white sugar
1/2 cup
1 tablespoon
baking powder
3/4 cup
vegetable oil
1 tablespoon
anise extract
1 teaspoon
anise extract
1 cup
confectioners' sugar
2 tablespoons
hot water
This is my Italian grandmother's recipe, to a T (except for the baking power typo, of course - 3 teaspoons works perfectly :) We call them "Sciamellis" in my family. The key with these cookies is that YOU SHOULD NOT BROWN THEM. If they turn golden on top, they're overdone. When you just start to see a teeny bit of golden color at the base of the cookies, get them out of the oven! Almond, anise, vanilla, lemon...all varieties taste great.
I did put in the 6 table spoons of baking soda and boy did they have a bad aftertaste. The recipe should be good if baking soda is adjusted. Maybe Heather can double check and rewrite the recipe if need be. Soon. I just wasted 1 1/2 hours of baking time and pitched all the cookies......kpl
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These were delicious and authentic Italian cookies with a nice strong anisette flavor. I presume the recipe had a typo regarding the 6 Tbs. of baking powder and I reduced it to 1 heaping Tbs. They were the exact consistency they should be and I cannot imagine what an additional 5 Tbs would have created!
Love this cookie. 11 minutes seems perfect for bake time. I've been using an old recipe for years and it somehow just changed over time and the cookies were just boring. This is great. Very nice texture, not too cakey not too dry. Wonderful understated flavor - just great... I made up a batch for this Easter sunday and made different colors for the icing. They look like a bunch of beautiful Easter eggs. DELICIOUS... Thanks for this recipe. Also makes several dozen if you don't make them too big. Nice... I changed the baking powder amount to 1 tablespoon.
This is the best anisette cookie I have tasted. This cookie is also delicious when almond extract is used instead of anise extract.
I adjusted the baking powder to 6 tsp, not tablespoons like the recipe says and they were incredible!!! It must be a typo. They were so moist and cakey with just the right amount of anise flavor. The frosting dries quickly after dipping the cookies, so be ready with the sprinkles if you're using them!
This recipe is very close to the one I have. The important ingredients are about the same. One recommendation I would make is not to add additional flour. I knead my dough and it is very sticky. But if you then let the batter rest with out adding flour for 15 min to hr. it will roll nicely and be less apt to become hard.
This cookie was a rel hit with my husband and children. A very nice tasting cookie, followed the directions and turned out great. Perfect amount of icing too.
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
Italian Anisette Cookies
Serving Size: 1/18 of a recipe
Servings Per Recipe: 18
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 265
Calories from Fat: 91
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GAME NOTES: The St. Francis Brooklyn Terriers will head upstate to the Carrier Dome for a non-conference matchup with the No. 9 Syracuse Orange as part of regional action of the Maui Invitational.
The Terriers began their campaign with a 66-62 overtime victory over the ACC's Miami Hurricanes and then picked up a two-point win in Boca Raton over Mike Jarvis's Florida Atlantic Owls. St. Francis Brooklyn fell to 2-1 on Saturday as it was defeated, 78-58, by the Dayton Flyers. Coach Glenn Braica is now in his fourth season at the helm of the program and owns a 44-49 career record.
It has been smooth sailing so far for the Orange, who have reeled off three double-digit decisions over Cornell (82-60), Fordham (89-74) and Colgate (69-50) for a perfect start. Coach Jim Boeheim's squad has been unstoppable on the glass, outrebounding its opposition by an average of 16.3 boards per game. ACC Preseason Player of the Year C.J. Fair has been the key player for Syracuse with an average of 21.3 points per game during the perfect start.
This will be the fourth meeting between the Terriers and Syracuse. The Orange have won all the previous encounters. St. Francis Brooklyn was defeated, 75-51, on Dec. 13, 2009 at the Carrier Dome.
St. Francis will have trouble on Monday if it does not make an effort to take better care of the ball. After committing 17 turnovers in each of their games in Florida, the Terriers were guilty of 21 miscues at UD Arena which the Flyers converted into 30 points. Dayton also held a 36-24 edge in points in the paint. Junior forward Jalen Cannon had a solid performance in the loss, tallying 14 points and eight boards. The 6-foot-6 forward was named to the Second Team All Northeast Conference Squad in 2012-13 after finishing second in the conference in rebounding (8.9 rpg) and also tying for second with 10 double-doubles. Freshman center Wayne Martin has made a big impact through his first three games with 12.7 points and six boards per outing and senior guard Ben Mockford (10.3 ppg) is also a threat offensively. Martin was named the NEC Rookie of the Week after he scored the game-winning field goal at FAU.
Syracuse's 2-3 zone has been efficient through three games as its opposition has hit on just 40.3 percent of its field goal tries to net 61.3 ppg. Fair is clearly one of the best players in the nation and he will be looking for his third consecutive 20-point output versus the Terriers, who will have their hands full due to the Orange's versatility on the offensive end. Freshman guard Tyler Ennis is both a playmaker and also a lights out shooter from the perimeter. Jerami Grant has made strides from a season ago and registered his first career double-double versus Fordham with 16 points and 10 boards. Trevor Cooney showed he can take over a game in the season opener versus Cornell with 27 points, but he has hit on only 3-of-15 shots from the floor over his past two outings.
Syracuse is just too deep, talented and athletic for the Terriers to compete with for a full 40 minutes. Cannon is a very good player within St. Francis' conference, but he does not have the size to dominate the professional prospects he will be battling in the paint. The Orange should coast to another easy decision before heading to Hawaii for their first non-mainland game in the Maui Invitational.
GAME NOTES: The St. Francis Brooklyn Terriers will head upstate to the Carrier
Dome for a non-conference matchup with the No. 9 Syracuse Orange as part of
regional action of the Maui Invitational.
FACTS & STATS: Site: Carrier Dome (35,012) -- Syracuse, New York. Television:
ESPN3.com. Home Record: SFBK 0-0, SU 3-0. Away Record: SFBK 2-1, SU 0-0.
Neutral Record: SFBK 0-0, SU 0-0. Conference Record: SFBK 0-0, SU 0-0. Series
Record: Syracuse leads, 3-0.
Syracuse 82, St. Francis Brooklyn 56
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We have spied the F82 M4 coupe again and here is the most revealing look yet. With the great look that we have here, here's a list of notable elements that we see.
• Double slatted kidney grilles
• M4 badge on kidney grilles (a la M6) (currently covered)
• LED headlights
• LED tail lights
• Carbon ceramic brakes (optional) being tested in signature gold color (just as on F80 M3 prototype)
• Hood power dome/bulge
• Sculpted double-bubble carbon fiber roof (like M6 Coupe)
• Production side mirrors (still under … CONTINUED
There's been no indication from BMW nor any F81 M3 Touring prototypes spied, but we can always dream and imagine.
We'll likely never see this car in real life, but here's a glimpse at what such a unique machine might look like, taking cues from the spied F80 M3 Sedan prototypes.
For the latest F80 M3 and F82 M4 news and updates, follow along @ http://www.bimmerpost.com/m3/f30m3/
It's been a while since the last spotting of the F82 M4 Coupe, but it's been worth the wait this sighting as the prototype has now lost some camouflage, revealing much more!
So, what revealing things do we see in this new sighting?
• Double slatted kidney grilles.
• LED headlights
• LED tail lights
• Sculpted double-bubble carbon fiber roof (a la M6 Coupe)
• Production side mirrors (but still under camouflage)
• Integrated trunk spoiler
• Deliciously wide rear stance
What about the F82 M4 mechanicals? If you recall, we recently reported … CONTINUED
A resourceful F30POST member went BMW VIN diving and may have uncovered many details for the upcoming BMW M3 Sedan (F80) and M4 Coupe (F82)!
While obviously no production F80 M3 or F82 M4 have rolled off the line yet, manufacturers like BMW register VINs for their pre-production test cars, so finding the details behind such VINs can reveal much about the upcoming production models (although keep in mind that everything is subject to change by the time the model hits production).
So, what does the BMW … CONTINUED
Here is the full set of our BMW F82 M4 Coupe Concept renders – with a front, rear, and interior view. Enjoy!
Are you the BMW M4 (F82) Coupe Concept?
CAR Magazine claims that these 2014 F80 M3 sedan images are the real deal, received from BMW. But, judging by their recent history with a false claim that a F10 M5 image they printed was also the real thing, we're inclined to think that this may again be a case of crying wolf.
It's been weeks since the last F80 M3 sightings, but we've now spotted the 2014 M3 prototype undergoing winter/cold climate testing and it looks like the testing has advanced to another stage.
M Carbon Ceramic Brakes
For the first time, we see the F80 M3 in a color other than black (Alpine White), which sometimes signals a more advanced stage of testing. Beyond that however, this is the first F80 prototype to sport BMW M Carbon Ceramic Brakes. One can tell that they are ceramic brakes by … CONTINUED
We recently posted our first set of BMW M4 Coupe renders based off the 4 Series Coupe Concept, and we now bring you even more interpretations previewing the F82 M4, by resident artist E92Alpine328i.
We started with the 4 Series Coupe Coupe and incorporated what the M3/M4 prototype spy photos and videos have revealed so far, along with some speculation and imagination.
For more M3/M4 coverage see: http://www.bimmerpost.com/m3/f30m3/
To recap, here is an updated list of what we know about the F80/F82 so far:
We've put together some renders of what the BMW M4 Coupe (F82) may look like, starting with the 4 Series Coupe Coupe and incorporating what the M3/M4 prototype spy photos and videos have revealed so far, along with some speculation/imagination.
We've given the M4 the 1M+M6 style front bumper spied on the F80 M3 prototypes, but the M4 bumper will likely look somewhat different. We've also incorporated the M sideskirts, wide fenders and hood bulge spied in the prototype photos. It may also get double slatted … CONTINUED
We've always projected that the successor to the current M3 coupe would be called the M4 coupe, to reflect the fact that the 4 Series coupe was coming. Now, not only has the 4 Series been revealed and confirmed, but Car and Driver claims that BMW has confirmed the switch to the BMW M4 badge for the coupe version of the next M3.
The M4 coupe is designated as the F82 and the M3 sedan as the F80.
Here's a rough render of the upcoming BMW M4 Coupe (F82) based on the revealed F32 4 Series Coupe Concept and incorporating bumper from the M6, hood bump from the current M3, side gill from the 1M, and more aggressive sideskirts.
Our member artists continue to give us potential previews of the 2014 BMW 4 Series with some great digital renders. Harold Wood has put together these speculative preview of the F32 4 Series Coupe, F33 4 Series Convertible, F32 4 Series Alpina B4, and F82 M4 coupe.
Seeing the 2014 M3 Sedan (F80) in the harsh winter of northern Sweden this time of the year for cold weather testing is no surprise. Nor is seeing the prototype at a gas station being refueled.
But, the type of fuel that this F80 M3 test car was being filled with by its driver was certainly surprising. An astute witness captured these images at a gas station in Kode, Sweden, while witnessing the test driver of the M3 refueling the car with E85 ethanol fuel (a … CONTINUED
The new BMW M3 (F80) sedan will arrive in 2014, but what should it be like? Steve Sutcliffe puts three of its predecessors through their paces at Brands Hatch to find the perfect ingredients.
We have added our side profile renders of the 2015 BMW M4 Coupe (F82) to our set of official renders.
We started with a photo of the F82 M4 right outside of the BMW M testing center at the Nurburgring and began peeling away at the camouflage based on details which can be discerned from this particular prototype, other F82 M4 and F80 M3 mules, as well as our other imagination and speculation.
Here are some render highlights:
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The F80 M3 is continuing its development at the Nurburgring and we've captured it on video once again. We've also compiled our recent F80 M3 and F82 M4 videos below.
As we've seen before, the F80 M3 continues to exhibit a planted ride and suspension, flying around the track with little body roll.
For our latest M3/M4 details and coverage see: http://www.bimmerpost.com/m3/f30m3/
We've put together this latest set of renders of the 2015 M4 Coupe (F82) based on recent spy photos.
We started with a photo of the F82 M4 right outside of the BMW M testing center at the Nurburgring and began peeling away at the camouflage based on details which can be discerned from this particular prototype, other F82 M4 and F80 M3 mules, as well as our other imagination and speculation.
What you see is a sleek M4 coupe with a more fastback shape than the … CONTINUED