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Jun 26 2013
The Building: Two Questions for You
This is the outside of The Building.
As you can see, we're starting to strip away the old green paint. This will be a big improvement in itself!
Here, you can see the horizontal windows above the awning. All but one are covered in wood right now and need to be replaced. We've replaced one of the horizontal windows with a "test" window…but the truth is, we're not sure what to do here. It's hard to tell from this photo, but the horizontal "test" window is divided into three sections. We're not sure if that's the best approach, or if they should be just single paned windows…or (heck) if they should be divided in halve.
Part of the reason we're not sure what to do is that we don't yet have a plan for the street-level storefront windows. There are a couple of issues there:
1. On the corner part of the building (the space on the right), the storefront windows go all the way up to the awning. But on the north side of the building, the windows start lower, closer to the sidewalk, and stop a foot or so lower than the ones on the corner.
2. We don't know whether the storefront windows will be divided into two panes (as the one straight ahead) or whether each window will be one uninterrupted piece of glass (as the one on the right.) I don't want things to get too busy with panes and lines and craziness.
There's no question in our minds that we want to streamline all of the street level windows and have one continuous "look". The issue is, we don't really know what to do!
Just to give you the full picture, I have created this highly technical visual aid using high tech color-coded arrows. I'm very cutting edge. Anyway, here's the deal: The green arrow is pointing to a door that will stay. The brown arrow is pointing to a door that will be removed and replaced with windows. The purple arrow is pointing to the corner of the building, which is where the new main entrance will be. (There isn't a door there now.)
The corner is where the original entrance was, so we're just taking it back to the original and replacing the brown arrow door with storefront windows.
So, now that I've totally confused you, let me get back to my main questions.
1. What approach should we take for the horizontal windows just above the awning? They wrap all the way around the building, so they aren't an insignificant factor in terms of the overall look of the building.
2. What approach should we take for the street level windows? They all need to be the same, so it will mean raising some, or lowering some, or…doing something else I'm not clever enough to figure out. I'm inclined to think there should be a good amount of space before the window begins—a good 12-18 inches from the sidewalk. But I'm also inclined to think the windows shouldn't go all the way up underneath the awning.
But I don't know anything.
Any thoughts, as always, would be appreciated!
P.S. The next order of business is the awning itself. (HINT: I'd like to get rid of it….)
1587 Comments and 83 Replies
Brenda On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:23 pm
I think all the windows down below should be raised up to match….seems more practical and won't get so dirty from the ground. The windows above the yawning should be a three window revision to match the bigger windows above, only on it's side and skinnier. Does that make sense? That's my opinion. Enjoy!
Nicole On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:24 pm
For the little windowd do 1 pane of stained glass with a neat design, would look really nice since they wrap around the top of the building.
Carla Mac On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:24 pm
For the windows above the awning…what about beveled clear glass in two or three panes? It would allow light in and provide some eye candy without being overbearing–kinda like a sparkly bracelet for the building. I think stained glass would be overkill (not to mention expensive!) and not really in keeping with the period of the building.
On the street level windows–equal red brick bands above and below the windows. Windows that begin at sidewalk level seem too modern for my taste.
Thanks for letting us provide our 2 cents worth!
Marcia On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:24 pm
Will you be able to see the horizontal windows once an awning is in place? I think they are a cool feature and would probably say single pane. It doesn't sound like you plan to open them. For the main panels as little distraction as possible and 'a good amount of space' from sidewalk to sill and whatever standard sized height tickles your fancy. I bet everyone in town is enjoying this project taking shape!
Betty Weaver On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:24 pm
For the smaller windows I would mimic the ones above so make the the same width but obviously not the same height.
Street windows – depends what you want inside to look like. If there might be displays in them. . I would have it designed similar to a window seat so about 30 inches from the street level or from floor level inside. And I would possible match that reveal at the top. Here I would likely go for a single pane look to simplify the look.
CeCe On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:24 pm
One small sentence of advice, BIG IS BETTER!
Cathy Strickland On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
We are in the building business – new home construction and I draw house plans. It is my opinion that the lower window to the right that is one big window going all the way up to the awning looks fabulous and I would carry that same theme across the lower windows, if that doesn't interfere with the second floor design in any way. Then I would use the triple windows in the space above where you are removing the the green wood.
Of course, going back original would be nice too, but I understand that might not give you the open look you are going for. I envy you on the task you are taking on. Restoring a downtown building is on my bucket list. :))
Lisa F On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
I know this may sound crazy….but I like the wood right above the awnings. What is the purpose of the windows there? Is it to let in light? Will you be able to open them and allow heat to escape? If they serve no purpose….don't put windows back in. I would definitely raise all the windows so they were at least 18 inches from the sidewalk. But that raises another question….How will you conceal the changes….if you are trying to make it all uniform? Will you be using old bricks? repainting? covering? Some strategically located flower boxes and benches will help conceal some of the changes. If you make the top of the windows uniform, I would make them shorter too. Remember… the more glass you have….the more it costs to heat and cool. At the new corner entrance, you could put in glass….or even stained glass above the doors. Just my thoughts. I sure enjoy following this project of yours. I love old buildings!
Tina Colston On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
I would do what is historically correct. Do what was original with the building. That is always the best way to go, when dealing with an old downtown. Thanks for taking care of the old gal! She is looking great!
Natalie Moats On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
Streamlined..Street level windows should be taken down to the shorter ones level ( imo) I like the look of some wall showing before the awning…. and the windows above awning could be your unique feature,,stained glass, mosaic.. or a tinted textured or opaque or frosted… a solid pane but in something that reflects YOU….or if not…I like the double panes….
Karen On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
I say this with love and admiration for what you are doing – PLEASE remove that horrible awning at once. Then, and only then, will it become clear to you just what to do with the windows.
Teresa S On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:38 pm
I totally agree about removing the awning! Once it is gone, you will be able to see the true character of the building. It is so gawdawful that when I look at the building, all I can really see is the awning and find I have to really look to see the rest of the building. When looking at a building like this one, it should be exactly opposite. The awning should enhance what you are already seeing.
Shirley F. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
The windows above the awning align with those below and not the upper windows so they should be either single pane or divided to match the windows at street level. Keep it simple so the difference in alignment is not noticeable.
I like seeing the different windows and heights along the street. It's a part of the history of the building that you could keep the same.
Krista On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
I like the idea of single panes in all, or panes divided in half in the bottom and whole panes on top. Those top windows are so small, they become busy very quickly with all the pieces broken up like that.
Kay On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:25 pm
I like the old tile windows that you are removing!!!
Karen in S.E. TX On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
OK, I'm channeling clean … simple lines and uncluttered. Got it.
For the windows above and below the awning I would go with single pane. Simple and clean.
I also think that the ground level, store front windows should start a foot or so above the ground and end right at the awnings. Window space going up under the awnings is pretty much wasted space.
Linda Armstrong On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
Hey there! I'm a huge fan & it all started when I read your book and loved it! What an amazing life you have…..I only dream of such a life. Ok, on to the subject at hand I think whatever you do on the top windows should be done the same on the bottom ie single pane above and below.
It's a beautiful building keep the nostalgia it adds to it's beauty!
Ginny Jakoubek On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
I don't care for the horizontal test window that you have…they look like they don't belong. What about dividing them with 2 panes like the lower windows?
As for the street level windows…I agree there should be a space before the sidewalk and whatever that space is I would do the same at the top. (if the window is 18″ from the sidewalk it should also be 18″ from the awning.
Enjoy your project…It's the kind of thing I would love and I love that you are restoring something old and historical and not tearing it down!@!
Suzanne Jager On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
I think the upper windows, above the awning would look better just one pane. The store front windows should be, as you said, above the sidewalk and not all the way to the present awning. That's just my opinion, I love that you ask us!!! Have been watching this building unfold back into present day, but still have the old-look charm to it. Great job Ree and crew!!
Grammanita On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
Well, I've never been very good at special visualization but….there is already a lot going on with the windows, different sizes, different shapes, etc….I would take that "middle level" and make them very plain…horizontal plates of glass. Get rid of those vertical frames that break up the horizontal flow. Depending on the visual needs of the inside, I'd either leave the glass clear (if a street view is needed), or frosted (if you need them for light but not a view), OR find a local glass artist do a sweeping, wrap-around, "mural" of the history of NE OK in stained glass….represent the Native Americans, add ranching, oil, etc. If you go that route, be sure to install security glass to protect against hail damage! Which would be a major concern, for me, about a stained glass awning.
HPH On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
I think you need to raise up the lower windows on the bottom of the first story – mostly for safety's sake; a more 'solid' foundation of less-breakable material!
I think the first story windows should have the same header as the second story windows; with the top of the header meeting the awning (instead of the glass meeting the awning).
If the first story windows were all one pane, I think the windows above the awning would look good as groups of three single-paned windows.
If the second story windows were divided into two vertical panes, I think the windows above the awning would look awesome with a pair of narrower stained glass panes on each side of a wider middle plain glass pane OR a 'frame' of stained glass panes completely around a middle plain glass pane.
LOVE the fact that you are restoring an old building. You Rock!
Ronne On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:26 pm
Wow…decisions decisions! I don't envy you! But I have a couple of suggestions/thoughts. First…since you are keeping the integrity of the original design of the building with the upper windows and restoring the entrance to its original location, I feel the same should be done with the horizontal windows…and the 3 sections in those windows mimic the 3sections in the upper windows and adds architectural interest. With the lower large windows I think if it were me I would raise the lower edge…it gives definition and a place for color and a 'grounding' to the building. I personally like the expanse of a single pane in those large lower windows…the divided windows there would make for the busy look you're wanting to avoid. The use you have planned for the lower level might also dictate their configuration. Whatever you decide to do I know it will be beautiful!
Dianne Tant On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I'm not sure why, but I don't like the horizontal window. I think too many lines.
Lynn Murray On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
The upper windows should have as few panels as possible and raise all the windows to the same height. This will keep a simple but clean look that can be decorated however you wish.
Cindy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I think you should do single pane windows street level. Also like someone's idea of doing stained glass to the upper windows. You could do those as a DIY and let the kids help out, that way there will be something from them at the store.
bethface On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
Hi Ree,
Something to think about, the large windows on the street level. I would choose to do the ones lifted off the street for a couple of reasons. One, cleaning would be so much easier, closer to the ground they will get dirty sooner. Second, how much easier would it be for them to get broken. Kids on skate boards and scooters. Yikes!!
Brandy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
Ree.im so glad ur doing this old building…on the show i just gushed at all the old store front potential.
i would do single pane window that divided does not look as good on it. dwn windows i was gona suggest taking the whole awing down and replace it was a cool ol school canves stripped .
then i thought about the tornado country u live in..!!! ohh my
what ever u decide
Pam A. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I'd like to see either stained glass (pretty costly!) or glass blocks on the horizontal windows
The street level windows would look great all raised a bit from the sidewalk to whatever height under the awning. Good luck. Someone above suggested consulting an architect-that's probably the best idea!
Ann On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
1. The three panes are a little too choppy. Either all one or at the most two will look more flow-y. 2. As for the ground floor windows, they would look good with an equal space at the top and the bottom of the window. If that's not feasible, then I'd move the others up. It would give the windows some area that wouldn't be so close to the ground in case of children playing, etc. Seems like it would be easier to break one that way. You have my utmost admiration for this undertaking. What a lot of decisions! I had trouble remodeling my kitchen!!
Rachel M. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I think the bottom windows should be single paned and would be cute with a curved top like the bookstore in You've Got Mail:
And the top windows should be double or single paned. I'm leaning towards single.
kathy Demalteris On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I think you should commission a LOCAL ARTIST to do a 3 piece series of stained glass!!!!
Karen H. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I think the storefront windows should end a foot or so above the sidewalk. I think the horizontal windows would look nice as some type of frosted or stained glass to bring interest to the building unless there is a reason for them to be see-through. It has been very interesting to see the transformation of this building. I love to see old buildings rejuvenated and re-purposed!!! I agree with some of the earlier comments that you may want to consult a professional for ideas but I would make sure it is someone who has experience in reviving old buildings. I think there may be a safety concern with the windows that go almost to the sidewalk as far as if someone were to run into the side of the building (having brick or other material a few feet up may prevent them from running through the building).
tina Hough On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
well, I looked and thought and got nothin, sorry ;/ I had to just ask my FB friends if I should finish sewing a zipper in or go clean the pool for the hubby, So, yea, no good at decisions, Sorry! Well…. Whatever the expert on the job says, I would do.
Ashley On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:27 pm
I agree with Leanne that stained glass above the awning would be beautiful, but given that the brick has a lot of design element to it already I'd probably make them single-paned glass panels, to keep it simpler and to let in light.
I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet or not, but I think the street-level windows would look beautiful if:
1. The lower windows were raised so that the bottom edge matches the bottom edge of the ones that go up to the awning.
2. The windows that go up to the awning were lowered to about 12 inches below the awning at the top.
(In other words, the top of all windows would be 12 inches from the awning, and the bottom of all windows would be 12-18 inches off the ground)
3. All the street-level windows were framed with a brightly-colored wood frame/molding that is decorative and complements the color of the awning.
This kind of thing is what I'm thinking of: http://bit.ly/14aE8Um
For a building of this age, wood framing around the windows/doorways would be a return to the more traditional/historic look of the architecture, and would add a pop of color to all that red brick. That way, if your windows are more plain/clear you still get to have the fun with colors that stained glass would provide, without sacrificing the amount of light entering the space.
Mary Evans On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:28 pm
Ree, The building can be beautiful again. It could be cost prohibited to reach that point. As much as I would like to give my opinion I would rather see you hire someone who will lead you in the right directions for this building. All of the locals can be a big help to you. Whatever you decide just have fun with the project. Blessings, Mary
Cassi On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:28 pm
Single panes on the front to avoid dividing the look of the inside. Have the windows start lover and end before the awning as with window to the left of brown arrow. If the window start to collide with the awning u lose visual space and let's b honest most people so jot look above eye level so it would be wasted space. The horizontal windows should be the divided 3 panes to provide differentiation from the lower level store front and the level above the awning. Also too much flat pane glass will get boring, and the smaller windows will go unnoticed.
Kim Campbell On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:28 pm
I don't know how much you have to worry with the weather, but it seems to me that keeping the front windows raised a little above the sidewalk might help in case of rain or snow. I also think the windows above the awning would be pretty as stained glass or glass bricks.
Cyndee Baldwin On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:28 pm
I like the small windows over the awning in three's and the lower storefronts as one pane of glass under and up to the awning a foot or so off the sidwalk.
Kim Kammeraad On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:28 pm
IMHO…street level windows a slightly above the sidewalk and stopping at the awning. To be totally truthful with you, I thought that the green WAS an awning and thought that was fantastic!! If it were me and money were no object….I'd put a wrap around awning where the green was! alas, that was not your question! sooooo, that being said, for the small horizontal windows above the awning….one pane….or glass block there would be awesome!
Beautiful project! Enjoying watching your progress! Gives me a destination in the future!
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Cindy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
As you are restoring the building, I would do however it was originally
Gin On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
A single pane would look too modern for your vintage building. The sample window you have in place mimics the larger vertical windows (window, thin divider, window, thick divider, etc.).
If you replicate the cream colored header that is over the upper windows on the lower horizontal windows and keep the brick dividers, you will maintain the building's vintage style and integrity.
Cindy Moore On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Put all the large plate glass windows ABOVE the level of the sidewalk; whatever they are now, 18″? 24″? I like one piece of glass as opposed to breaking it up.
The horizontal windows up higher? I would use glass blocks. Somewhat original to buildings of that age. Good luck!
Cecil McGarrah On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Concerning the lower large windows. Should come up from the sidewalk to ensure anything from hitting them and breaking. However, they should go up to the top so they appear to be connected to the horizontal windows. That's why they should be ordered at the same time to ensure they match. Best to you.
Lisa On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Here's my lovely 15+ years of retail management experience for you(and I catered to the aesthetics of selling health and beauty aids for what it's worth) For the above the awning windows, it really depends on what is most cost efficient for you, it's not going to affect the overall appeal of the place, but with the single pane windows that's probably not going to be as energy efficient as you want it to be, but may be the best way to preserve the original windows. I'd go with the most cost effective way to reproduce what was original. For your store fronts, single pane or with two separate panes as the one in the middle, you're not going to see a big detraction from the look as long as your dividing line is the darker color like the new windows you have installed on the upper floor. For cost again just to be realistic I think the double pane would be better, heaven forbid in the event of a tornado(because hey it's OK) or some unfortunate "you mean my car wasn't in reverse" you want things to be as easy and cost effective to replace – go with the double pane. As for the height I wouldn't cut the windows that are one foot lower any higher because if you look from the perspective of the picture with arrows you don't see much of the space above anyway because of the awning. If you keep an awning go with the lower height. And that's my two cents for what it's worth. Can't wait to see more progress photos!
Cindy Oquinn On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
I agree consult an architect. Is the building air conditioned? If your town is anything like here on the gulf coast of Texas, power goes out occasionally. You may want some of those windows to work.
Loriann McClintock On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Only living about an hour from where Pawhuska is lends to some good insight of the general area. In my humble opinion I would take a hard look around the store front on both sides and evaluate what others have. Maybe raising the windows to come under the awing might be a good choice so proper window displays can be made for each season?? The eye tends to go straight ahead and up not typically down especially when displaying items of color and size, ie: Christmas display with an oversize rocking chair and Santa sitting in it. Just something to think about. Can't wait to stop in when open and see what you have done.
Leslee On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Bottom level windows should be off the ground, because they are too easy to get broken and water problems. All should be split for (savings on replacement costs in the future, if necessary.
The smaller windows above the awning, I think aesthetically should be individual panes AND you should consider what type of awning you want to use, as it will make a difference in the panes.
Happy RENO!!
Debbie E On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:29 pm
Think you are right about the height from the bottom of the window to ground level–your building looks similar in age/style to many buildings on the town square of my home town, and the windows were single pieces of heavy glass framed with wood. Old photos show canvas awnings that could be lowered/raised to suit the weather. Some of them were elaborate! Your building might have had transom windows above the large ones–I'm sure you'll make the building look fabulous!
Lynnie On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:30 pm
It looks to me like the "above" and "below" windows were each single units before the awning was put up, and were divided at the time the awning was added. To me, the new window chops it up even more. I think a running facade over the awning would give it a more continuous look – something that is not in dimension with the windows below. Hope that makes sense.
Grammanita On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:50 pm
Oh, good eye!!! I take back what I said earlier and agree that adding a façade between the top of the awning and that yellow band below the upper windows would be a wonderful idea. Unless those little windows are needed for light, hide the fact that they were ever there in the first place. Easier, cheaper, simpler….win / win / win.
Terri O On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:30 pm
The term single pane or double pane refers to the number of layers of glass, not whether they are divided by a strip of wood. For insulation purposes and strength of the window, I would imagine that you are installing dual pane windows. Your building codes will tell you whether or not the windows can go clear to the top of the wall under the awning. There needs to be a header above the window to support the wall above it, which your contractor would make sure of. I would also imagine that your glass is tempered (the kind that doesn't shatter) and your building code will also tell you how close to the floor/ground it should go. I think the cleaner the lines of the windows the better (less grids and dividers) that way the windows don't detract from the character of the building. For the horizontal windows over the awnings, I guess it would be which is more important – form or function. If you want to go solely on looks, again, less dividers, cleaner lines. But if they need to open and close, then you would have to go with some sort of operable window, which would require at least one vertical line. I think restoring the old building is wonderful and how great it is that the city is working with you. (Our town's building department makes projects like this difficult) so good for you! Keep posting pictures.
Sharon foster On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:30 pm
Oklahoma has a "main street" program (part of National Trust for historic preservation) part of the program has architects available to building owners for the kind of help you need with your building. This is a great tool, please take advantage of it, they are really good.
Amy Hadley On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:30 pm
The small windows above the awning should be single paned with artwork on it or stained glass….maybe every other one stained glass. The larger windows under the awning should be single paned, 12-18 above ground and maybe 6-8 inches below the awning since you don't like it all the way to the top. That would be plenty of window space to showcase just about anything. I can't wait to see how it all turns out.
Patti On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:30 pm
Glass blocks for the horizontal windows. Level windows grained level all the way around. 18 to 24 inches of the sidewalk and 6 to 12 inches below awning. BTW, I also like the green paint.
Vanessa Godfrey On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
Ree, I see two issue with the street level windows, some go down to the side walk and some don't, as well as to the top under the aweing. So create the illusion of a straight line by making the space between both the top and the bottom of each window the same. Which means you don't want your windows all the way to the top, but some room between them and the aweing. And the room on the top of the window is the same as on the bottom. You could need to order windows of different sizes to do this.
The three widows above the aweing do not look good but they are ok, they do however look right for the period of the building. What will be behind those windows on the inside of the building?
Al Greene On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
Ree, I think you should consult with someone concerning downtown development or the local historical society to see what is historically correct for your building. I live in an historic housing area and there are things I can't do.
It doesn't sound like this building falls into that category, so I would suggest making the facade of the building correct for its period using more modern building and construction techniques. That way, the building will look historically correct but more efficiently constructed.
Valerie On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
I think the arts and crafts prairie style windows would work best above the awning and in the main storefront windows. The lines would help break up the large space of the windows. We put them in at our house and received lots of compliments.
Lisa E. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
I think the single paned glass would look much better than two or three divided panes. I love the removal of the green also! Makes a world of difference. Good luck in your new adventure!
Tracy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
I'm in favor of the divided horizontal windows-they seem to work with the upper windows. I think the main floor windows should all start about a foot from the ground and be undivided.
Anne TerHaar On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
Ree, in my humble opinion, I think you should split the difference in the lower windows. In other words, make them equidistant up from the sidewalk and down from the awning. That will give some symmetry to the "big picture". As for the horizontal windows, again I would like to see some symmetry in conjunction with the upper windows. I don't think they should have any vertical lines. But I think they should be divided into halves or thirds in each space, similar to the upper windows. Hope this makes sense! Love ya!
Anne On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:31 pm
I vote for single pane windows both above the awning and below. I would raise the height of the street level windows to match the ones that are already 12″ or so above the level of the sidewalk. I would keep the height of those windows up to the awning. I don't think they look weird going up that high and it would be more cost effective rather than changing the height of all the windows on the lower level. Save a little bit of money here and there when you can and you can put it toward other things later.
Darla On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:32 pm
I think you need to raise up the lower windows on the bottom of the first story – mostly for safety's sake; a more 'solid' foundation of less-breakable material!
I think the first story windows should have the same header as the second story windows; with the top of the header meeting the awning (instead of the glass meeting the awning).
If the first story windows were all one pane, I think the windows above the awning would look good as groups of three single-paned windows.
If the second story windows were divided into two vertical panes, I think the windows above the awning would look awesome with two narrow panes of stained glass on each side of a wider middle plain glass pane OR a 'frame' of stained glass panes completely around a middle plain glass pane.
LOVE the fact that you are restoring an old building. You Rock!
Jesse Rose On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:32 pm
Just to throw in another monkey wrench, have you thought about glass blocks in the space above the awning? I love that look and it still brings in a lot of light.
Krysia On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:32 pm
That's a gorgeous building and I think it is so neat that you are restoring it! I like the single pane windows for above the awning. The door on the corner is a great idea. I also like the thought of having the front windows off the ground. Perhaps with some wainscoting for that vintage look? I found this picture of a building with some similarities to yours. I love the way that the single pane windows look.
I can't wait to see what you decide to do!
Linda Woodrome On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:32 pm
I think the windows above the awning should be one window, not divided. I also would do the street level picture windows as one single pane where ever you can. Less is always better. That this kitchen designer's opinion.
Michelle P. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:32 pm
The storefront is kind of 'busy' in general with all the windows, awning, brick, etc., so I would keep both the horizontal and street-level windows as simple as possible. Maybe the horizontal ones could even be continuous glass instead of split like the tester ones you have in there now? Think of all the great light! Overall, I think simple, clean lines, few breaks, and continuity will make the other points of interest really pop.
Teresa S. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
I think that the awning should be redone. It has such a rough front edge that it would be much more beautiful if you removed it, made the lower windows your 12-18 inches from the ground then a good foot from wherever the awning would be attached to the building. With all that brick on the building, canvas awnings would look great, especially in a burgundy and green stripe or plaid. The canvas awnings will also have a flowing front edge that would look much nicer than the square slap you in the face edge the front has now. As for the windows above the awning, I think I would make them in the same style as the windows above.
I am a symmetrical person and the part that bothers me the most about the outside of the building is how the windows above the awning look kind of like they should be part of the windows below the awning. It is almost like the awning was an afterthought and they couldn't place it where it would look good on the building so they just stuck it on the building where they thought it should be and boarded up the windows that it split.
Well, I am no architect, although my dad is, so I don't know how much my 2 cents are worth, but I would recommend having an architect draw up some drawings of how the building could look from the outside. Since most of the work would be cosmetic, I would think that they could draw a conceptual drawing to give you some ideas.
Do please consider doing something else with the awnings. It think that it will do a lot to improve the exterior.
Julie On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
What an awesome project! Overwhelming, I'm sure, but still awesome.
Do you have a picture of the original building? I'm all about bringing back the original integrity of classic architecture like this. Strip the paint, use brick and more brick, and make it look like 19th century Marlboro Man could ride his horse up and hitch it to a ring attached to the curb. : >) And I love the small windows above the awning…Character with a capital C!
Do you love the awning…I mean…is it a negotiable part of the property that could be jettisoned for the sake of original integrity? (I don't love your awning : >) BTW)
I agree in regards to the windows needing to be the same size and not so tall that they reach to the stars. Think back to when the building was built and how the windows of then were created and installed. Practical I'm sure, yet you could use 21st century technology to make them sound proof, weather proof, etc.
Google images of Jacksonville, Oregon. A sweet and charming small town close to my hometown that has a historic main street that might give you some architectural ideas.
So there's my two cents worth…not that it buys anything anymore. Good luck!!
Jennie On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
Raise the bottom of the street level windows that go all the way down so that they are consistent with the others. Not sure how high you should go-but stopping a few inches below the awning sounds good.
While single panes give an unobstructed view, they also say "modern". Multipaned windows would look older and more appropriate on the building.
I like the idea of multiple panes in the windows above the awning as well. I wonder how they would look with leaded glass (no color, just lead and maybe some texture)?
You can do a google image search for "beautiful storefront" or "historic storefront" for ideas. Here are a couple that I liked:
Lola On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
I think the windows above the awning should either be one long window or stained glass. This will help breakup the upstairs windows from the downstairs windows. And the windows below the awning should be 1 foot from the sidewalk and the same from the awning and partioned into 2 so it's more uniform with the upstairs windows. Too close makes it looks strange to me. IMO.
Susie On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
The windows are the gateway to the soul of the building. Depending on what you are using the building for should help you in designing the perfect view to the inside. Currently the outside windows on the street level look as they will be greatly blocked by cars parking there. Still I would keep those large windows open as possible with top lighting and showcase style decor. The area above the awning everyone will see so I would super showcase those windows with lots of lights…vintage style small ones and then appropriate decor. Easy to dress up for the holidays. Love the awning idea…makes shoppers and onlookers feel comfortable for an all-weather peek at what is being offered inside. I don't know what the plans are for the use of the building but it looks like a great venue for The Pioneer Woman Culinary Shoppe and Chef School. Just sayin'….good luck. (I live in San Diego, CA and I'd come for a two-day workshop! – economy booster for the whole community!)
Patti N On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
Why don't you use the glass square blocks in the upper windows? Love those missing accents that were so gorgeous on our buildings in downtown Waco. As far as the windows on the ground level, I would done single panes. And you could actually incorporate the same glass square blocks around the entry or on the large windows as an accent, not the entire large windows as blocks but maybe just along the bottom or 4 corners.
Elaine Wells On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
I reside in Victoria, Texas. Our huge "downtown" is a historic district built around a town square and the courthouse, complete with horse rings in the sidewalk and the oldest deli in Texas. My son and I ate in a restaurant today that has your rectangular windows and the owner has placed antique stained glass. They catch the sunlight in the afternoon and it's lovely. They look like they belong with the original design of the building.
Renee Dewey Byrd On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
I love the ideas of stained glass for the windows above the awning. I also think that if you didn't want windows in each section around that by alternating with brick designs or decorative tile inlays would be a creative touch and fabulous too. You could also incorporate the tile inlays or brick designs around your window displays below the awnings. I like different window heights when they give each person looking, thinking of kids faces pressed on the glass, a different and unique view. You will still catch me hunched down like that little kid when it comes to pastry and Christmas displays. Each partition of window displays would be it's own perfect design, especially lit up at night.
Gige On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:33 pm
Consult an architect – MUCH cheaper in the Long run…. Look for one that restores old commercial buildings and if you like his previous work, see what he has to say. We have an old town here in Ga and there are some buildings that have been restored recently, and they look awesome. So, look for some towns closer to your neck of the woods that have been done….
Helon On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:34 pm
OK….my two cents.
Storefront windows 18″ from sidewalk on bottom and 12-16″ from awning on top. I would definitely frame them similarly too the upper floor windows.
Narrow horizontal windows: I think it would look really cool to sandblast the Drummond name, brand, logo (whatever you decide…butterflies, vines) on beveled plate glass. The sun shining through would create wonderful patterns throughout the day. And, the bevels will create prisms of sunlight.
I'm only a tiny bit jealous…not too much because I really do wish good fortune and health for you and yours.
Cindy Wiggs On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:34 pm
I like the idea of 3 panes in the horizontal windows up top. I think the lower windows should be single but center them so that there is space above and below each window. I think it's great you are moving the main entrance to the corner.
Cassandra On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:34 pm
I think talking to someone at the State Historic Preservation Office should probably be your first step. They could help you come up with something appropriate to the building.
Susie G. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:35 pm
I like the single pane below the awning with the brick underneath. And I like the windows above with the 3 sections. You do have pictures of how the building looked originally? I would stay true to what the building was originally designed to look like on the outside, but I love old architecture.
Josef H. On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:35 pm
The horizontal windows should directly copy the lower windows, it will help add continuity to an otherwise busy look.
The center windows (the ones with the photographer's (your?) reflection) are the perfect size and position in my opinion. The fact that it goes all the way up under the awning also adds continuity and makes it so that the awning can act as a visual accent.
for an unsolicited opinion I bet the main entrance would look really nice if the corner were chamfered. (Though I can't imagine the price tag on a job like that)
cynthia On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:35 pm
I really think you should go as simply as possible. single solid panes. everywhere. not sure it's necessary to have all windows a foot off of the ground. it will open up the space with light and people will want to peak in if some go to the floor. the building itself reads a little busy, so simple single panes all over would be cohesive and easy on the eye. plus they're soooooo much easier to window dress. you want to showcase whats inside, not the window itself. plus…..being an eclectic aquarian, I love the older building with a little more modern, sleeker window. then there is the matter of having them cleaned….single pane windows baby!!!!!
Kim L On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:35 pm
I think in the downstairs I would go with large solid pane of glass. If the downstairs is going to be retail space the more window space the better to display the items in the store. Just make sure you use double pane windows (great for energy savings and noise reduction since it is a street level). I do think it's a good idea to start about 18 inches off the sidewalk. If you're going to do the same type of awning (which I do like the look) I would want the windows to go up to within about 10 or 12 inches of the awning. For the horizontal windows I think the test window looks great (provided whatever that is behind the glass goes away, lol). They look almost as if you have taken one of the upstairs windows and turned it on its side. Nice cohesive design.
Rita M On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
On the lower windows, I think an oblong window with narrow separating panes would be nice as opposed to the longer windows.
Cutting edge, huh? lol you are funny!
CateS On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
I'm not a terribly creative person, but I would point out that the awning may impact the amount of sun glare inside and rain/snow protection for those people coming in & out of the building, even though you're moving the entrance. I'm surprised you're not installing another door/entrance [maybe not for general use but for emergencies].
Lisbeth On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
Love the horizontal windows above the awning, I think the less framing the better if they are not operable. As to the ground floor windows unless you wish to use them for large displays the smaller the better for energy efficiency. Like 2-4′ above the sidewalk. As for the main entrance I would wonder if they didn't move it away from the corner because of wind problems, commercial doors w/o latches will not stay closed in hi winds when they are unlocked during business hours. Love what you are doing with your building. Do you know how old it is?
Lori in Saskatchewan On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
My personal preference would be to have all the street level windows about 12-15″ off the ground and stopping about 10-12″ from the awning at the top. I think it will help the windows look they are set into the wall instead of looking like (some of them) disappear into the awning or come up from the street.
The smaller horizontal windows above the awning are visually interesting but splitting them into 3 panes doesn't seem to make sense unless they are made to be opened in one of the sections. I'd change them to just a continuous piece of glass without the separations.
I think stained glass above the awning would be strange because there are SO MANY of them. When you look at the picture taken from the corner you can see how those horizontal windows are meant to appear as a continuation of the larger windows below the awning so plain glass without 3 panes would make more sense. Really, if you have undivided panes below the awning I'd use undivided ones above. If you decide to split the larger windows into 2 panes I'd mirror the effect for the ones above the awning and split those into 2 panes as well.
Does that even make sense? Now I see why you have pictures with clever ARROWS! Trying to explain starts to sound silly after a while.
sue On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
Raise the lower windows up from the sidewalk and make them each large individual panes. These can be used to showcase the business or merchandise that is inside. (Remember the Christmas scenes they used to have in the windows?) The upper windows should be either stained glass to add a little color to the building or possibly etched windows with the business names on them and definitely the three panes look most original.
Joy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
For the horizontal windows: one single pane.
For the ground floor: as your instincts say – 12-18″ up from the side walk (think protection from snow and rain puddles etc..). All the way to under the awning.
Can't wait to find out what you decide and to see the progress!
Judy U On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
1) I feel that the windows above the awning would look best as one or two at most windows. Otherwise it clutters the look also I like the awning. However not a fan of the green, maybe a nice tan or gold would look better just paint some option up an see which is better.
2) I think the lower windows would look better as one big window. Also I would move it up at least 12 to 18 inches. That way they are least likely to get broken by people accidentally kicking them.
Hope that helps!
MelissaJean On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:36 pm
If the horizontal windows were in place when the building was originally built, then I think you should keep them as close to what they were as possible. I like the look of three panes as it gives you something visual to draw your eyes up. It will also add additional light into the store and that is never a bad thing.
For the store front windows, you may want to consider structurally if there are any requirements, being that it is an older building. My gut tells me to start the windows about 30 inches from the ground and maybe offer some seating in front of the building. I don't think they should go as high up as the awning. What is the point? So you can see the top of the awning from inside the store? Save yourself some money and stick with one pane per window and go with a standard size window. If you start at 30″ from the ground and go with a five foot tall window, that still puts the window a foot and a half taller than the average human. I'm just guessing on measurements as its hard to guess to scale from your photos.
Nancy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
Single pane glass windows ground level but why not also make a window or 2 glass block? Will add some character and nice lighting in the inside without all plane glass windows. On the smaller windows above the awning, why not just put some decorative rusty bars over the windows. There are lots of windows and it needs some character.
Susan Washburn On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
I was thinking three panes on the smaller windows above the awning to mimic those above – BUT when you get to the corner of the building, you have arches – so perhaps just single panes with frosted glass – should be stunning
Lisa M On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
Less lines, more single span "picture windows". I think they should start at least 20 inches off the ground (with NO ledge, people tent to sit or stand on window ledges, causing you problems down the road). If you are planning to put any tables up next to the windows (like a resturant), you might want the bottom of the window to be about table height, so you cant see under the tables from outside. If the windows go all the way up to the awning it might look a little too modern for such a historic treasure. I do like the idea of stained or "art" glass above the awning, but you need to consider what the building will be used for, more natural light means lower electric bill! But less lines… good luck
Mindy On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
I'm voting for one solid pane per window. The building is beautiful and keeping the panes simple will highlight the great architectural lines instead of cluttering them. Since the windows are small in comparison to the others it will look cleaner. Also, how does it look from the inside? Would more panes feel busy to the interior or would a full window opening of sunlight with no barred shadow falling on the floor give a better atmosphere? I'm a graphic designer and one thing I hear over and over and over is good design involves taking away elements until you can stand to take away nothing else. An eye needs to rest. Emphasize everything and you empathize nothing. Just my two cents! Good luck on your decision!
Patrick Fox On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
If you are going for a more historically accurate look, the original transoms would have been operational, meaning they would have been able to be opened, probably on a hinge, to provide air circulation for the space. Therefore, it is likely that they would have had mullions or sashes in them. I think you could accurately recreate that, and not necessarily need to make them operational.
Colleen P On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:37 pm
The advantage of more panes of glass is if you ever have to replace them. ( Hail, wind, birdsflying in them, bb gun pellets) It is much easier to replace smaller panes. The closer to the original the better. This is a great project.
joyce On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:38 pm
glass block with lighting at night…lights all the same color, at the same time. LED's Perhaps flickering to appear like candles.
Cindy Wiggs On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:38 pm
If you end up removing the awning then my opinion is that you have a space between the lower and upper windows. Without the awning, it wont look so busy.
PatW On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:38 pm
Get yourself an architect that knows something about rehabbing historic buildings. This is a little too much for a DIY. Or even a doing with the help of your following. There's gotta be somebody in OK who's qualified. Heck, I've scoped out a couple up here for my son, who wants to rehabilitate our home, and we haven't even bought the house yet!
Pauline On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:38 pm
You're doing a wonderful thing in bringing this old building back to life! I encourage you to consult with a restoration architect – money well spent in the long run! Also an architect could provide drawings (choices) so you could select the look you are going for.
Does the awning have to stay? W/o the awning the bldg. will look completely different & the windows & doors will become the main focus.
Love & prayers for continued success of your project!
Jessica G On Wednesday, June 26 at 3:39 pm
I love the idea for a single-pane window above the awnings. One more wrinkle – have you thought about being able to open those windows? Kind of like old casement windows with the long crank thing to open them? Might be nice for some extra ventilation when you want it.
As for the larger windows, it would be nice for them all to start a bit off the ground. If there's seating nearby (I know you don't know the plans yet) might be a nice "privacy panel"as well – lol. If you take the windows all the way up to the awning, there will be one less "stripe" on the face of the building.
Hope that helps! (Even a little bit.)


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I wanna say THANK YOU GiantKiller for your insight as i'm tired of people spamming its a bad idea and those people who swear up and down ALWAYS say its the voice of many (sorry stez but you don't speak for me nor anyone else).
I like the idea, Giant gave a good summary what to look forward to and or wait and see. We're in beta here people quit acting like its out and lets do the job we were either given for free (yay me) or paid for with founders packs (glad to have more people with us).


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Should I buy kitchen aid pasta attachment?
I've never made homemade pasta before but I am so excited about getting started! I have a kitchenaid mixer and was wondering what peoples thoughts were about the attachments. There is a pasta press and then there is a more traditional roller, which allows you to make spaghetti unlike the pasta press where you have more of a variety. Any thoughts? Also, does anyone have any links w information about the different types of flour one could use and why you would choose one type over another?
Even though I have a Kitchen Aid, I settled on the Atlas pasta machine, I love it. It is manual, but I never have any trouble with it. It is quite easy to do using two hands once you figure it out.
I just took a pasta making class and bought the kitchen aid pasta set. I have the set with the roller, the fettuccine cutter and spaghetti cutter:
In the class we mostly used the atlas machines (there were one or two KA's up at the chef's counter that some people got to use) but IMO when you are one the higher/thinner settings and have a 3 or 4 foot long sheet of dough it is much easier to KA by yourself.
Probably the only downsides to the KA as I see it are the price (you can get an atlas for less than half what the set costs for the KA) and the fact that the rollers are wider on the atlas.
I've heard bad things about the ravioli maker for the KA so I'd stay away from it. Making raviolis by hand is not alot of fun so I bought one of these to make it easier (or you can just make tortellini since they are easier to hand form:
Pasta really is easy to make (I wish I'd have known this years ago).
Most people use either AP flour or semolina for pasta making (or a combination). AP flour gives you a much silkier dough. The semolina flour has a consistency more like corn meal and the resulting pasta has much more texture.
Here is a great video that shows how quick and easy it really is to make pasta. He doesn't rest the dough he just rolls it a few times and it's ready to cut. The big time saver (both in cleanup and dough making) is the food processor to make the dough.
i was just telling a friend about this attachment last night! my exact words were:
"while theres definitely something to be said for making it by hand or using a hand-rolled machine, i think the main thing i gained from doing it that way pre-KA attachment was an appreciation for how much more i love the attachment"
IMO, my pastas have only gotten better due to its ease of use, and ability to add more kneading process to my pastas as i roll them (since its not as tedious with each pass). i definitely recc. them.
re: mattstolz
I've never used a manual pasta roller. I've only used my KA atttachment. I really like making my own pasta - for lasagne, ravioli, tortellini, herbed pasta. I'm annoyed with my KA food processor and but there isn't a lot to the KA pasta attachment so I wouldn't expect it to break.
If you can wait, you can get the pasta attachment on sale instead of paying full price. It will make it 'easier' to use!
re: cups123
I own both. I use the roller attachment once every week to two weeks. Have never actually used the press. I should make a point of doing that one of these days, I guess.
re: smtucker
but the press can make the same things that the roller attachment can make, no? So in theory if I got the press I wouldn't need to get the roller? Or is the roller just better at making spaghetti?
re: cups123
The roller is to make flat cut pastas like ravioli, linguine, etc, while the press is for extracted pastas such as spaghetti. I think that extracted pastas use a different recipe [no eggs]. So you don't need to buy both; they serve different purposes.
re: cups123
i would definitely say the roller before the extruder. you will most likely make flat pastas and spaghettis more often than extruded ones as a flat dough is more versatile (can be everything from papperdelle to spaghetti to linguine to ravioli to lasagna and can be fresh or dried.... whereas an extruded pasta is more limited to dry and whatever shape your extruder nozzle is.
I recently bought this
and it's been just amazing. Such an ease of use, and not having to crank the machine is worth all the extra money.
Different types of flour will give you different tastes and textures. I would recommend getting some http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001... (Bellino Semolina Flour) and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003... (Antimo Caputo Italian Superfine "00" Farina Flour), as I've had great luck with them. Good luck with your pasta, and if you want to know more about the flour types I'd be happy to help!
re: JVHcook
Thanks for all the replies! Should I get a drying rack too?
re: cups123
If you don't have a lot of counter space, I bought this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000... (Norpro Drying Rack), which I really enjoy for the low cost (you could probably make one yourself if you felt motivated). Otherwise, as long as you flour the pasta a bit and lay it out flat, it will be fine, just take up a good amount of space. Really I would say it depends on how much you plan on making pasta.
re: JVHcook
I got the same rack..because I'm a gadget freak but as mattstolz mentions below a drying rack is not strictly necessary. You can just flour the noodles and let them dry on a sheet pan.
re: JVHcook
I know the copy says the rack comes apart for storage, but does it come *completely* apart, or is it just the arms that are removable? Can you remove the upright dowel from the base as well? Also, can you use the rack for lasagne sheets? I only ever see linguine or tagliatelle on the rack in the photos.
Drying the pasta, even just laying it out while I'm making the rest of it, is the biggest pain for me. My Manhattan kitchen is so small, I have to clean off both the dining table and the coffee table to lay out my pasta. I've looked at that rack a number of times, but just wasn't sure it would work for me.
re: JoanN
if you have a few cooling racks, another space saving option is to use those. fill one with pasta, then stack the next one on top of it, and fill it. you should be able to stack them several racks high before you need to start a new tower.
can also use baking trays, turning them 90 degrees with each new layer.
I've been watching too much Good Eats. not a fan of the unitasker haha.
but yes, you can use the drying rack for any flat pasta. just not extruded (not shaped extruded at least) and not filled.
re: JoanN
Years ago when my mom made noodles she would prop the broom handle across the backs of 2 chairs and hang the noodles from them, like clothes drying on the clothesline.
Come to think of it, if one already has a dowel type clothes dryer that should work pretty well too.
Seeing the video I am now off the fence about buying a pasta roller for my KA. I'm definitely on the YES side. :-)
re: cups123
a drying rack isnt totally necessary, i normally just toss mine with some semolina or flour and spread it on a baking sheet. i normally actually like to dry mine in the fridge anyways, which would mean a drying rack couldnt even be used if i wanted to
re: cups123
I bought a couple dowel rods ($.99) and hung them on nails in a corner. They come down when I'm not using them and saves a lot of space.
re: NonnieMuss
No nails method: open your upper kitchen cabinet doors. Prop the dowels across the top edges of two cabinet doors while the pasta hangs from them to dry. Or, hang the pasta on a thick coat hanger and hang the hanger on a shower curtain rod.
re: malabargold
I just used my extruder attachment for the kitchen aid and found it to be great. Better pasta than commercial and easy to use. I used a pasta recipe I found at Leites culinaria website. Italian 00 flour, eggs some olive oil and a tiny bit of sea salt.
re: petitgateau
I went to williams and sonoma yesterday and they didn't have it in stock:( I'm going to try somewhere else. Now for the big question, what recipe should I use to start out? I've read countless debates about semolina vs 00 vs ap flour and I still don't know what conclusion to come to!
re: cups123
Even though I keep 00 flour on hand for pizza dough, I don't use it for making pasta. Perhaps I've just been overly influence by Marcella who says that pasta made from AP flour is most consistently satisfying. As for semolina, she recommends that be left to commercial pasta makers since even if you use very finely milled semolina it can be grainy and frustrating to work with.
Why not start with AP flour, and once you have that down to your satisfaction you can start playing around with other recipes and see what you prefer.
re: cups123
The attachments are on "sale" at amazon today for $129 which is about $20 lower than most places.


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Tyco rolling out RFID-based inventory intelligence across Zara stores worldwide
Neuhausen, Switzerland -- Tyco Retail Solutions announced that fashion retailer Inditex Group, operator of Zara, has awarded Tyco a chain wide contract for RFID-based Inventory Intelligence. The Tyco solution is currently deployed in 700 Zara stores across 22 countries.
The solution has delivered timely, accurate visibility into merchandise styles, colors and sizes for Zara, enabling Inditex to create precise merchandise plans and tailored product assortments, and to deliver an exceptional customer experience across the Zara chain, Tyco said.
With this RFID-based solution, Inditex is achieving operational efficiencies through improved inventory processes and better controls for reducing shrink. The retailer is optimizing its inventory investment and maximizing sales and margins.
According to Pablo Isla, Inditex president, "Implementation of this next-generation technology is the one of the most significant changes ever in how the Group's stores operate."
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text: Sister Simone Campbell was the leader of the "Nuns on the Bus," the group of activist Roman Catholic nuns who followed U.S. House Budget Committee Chairman and vice presidential canidate Paul Ryan, challenging his proposal to dramatically reduce spending for anti-poverty programs while cutting taxes for Americans in the highest income brackets. She will speak at Northampton Community College on Thursday, February 7, at 7:30 PM. Before she does that, though, she will be Alan Jennings's guest on Lehigh Valley Discourse, live at 6 PM on WDIY.


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Often associated with upper-class dining arrangements and ballrooms, these lightening stables have been a popular option for home décor for centuries. These beautiful pieces are perfect for highlighting spaces and really bringing some sparkle and energy to a room. There are many different styles of chandeliers out there ranging from classical crystal chandeliers to more modern and contemporary designs. Chandeliers are perfect high ceilings and especially entry ways near stairs.
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WORCESTER, Mass. - On Saturday, Feb. 5, the Holy Cross women's basketball program will host "Pink Zone Day" at the Hart Center during its game versus Lafayette at 1:00 p.m. The team will be donning special edition pink and black "Sader Nation" t-shirts during warm-ups for breast cancer awareness. The t-shirts will also be sold throughout the game, with all proceeds going to the Pink Revolution and McInerneu-Zona Children's Fund. Pink Revolution is an alliance of dedicated individuals with a unified commitment to those touched by breast cancer at UMass Memorial and UMass Medical School here in Worcester while the Zona Children's Fund is a trust fund set up for the children of Mary McInerney-Zona, beloved sister of women's basketball associate head coach Ann McInerney.
"This has become a special day for Holy Cross women's basketball, for a great cause," said head coach Bill Gibbons. "This year we'll auction off our shooting shirts with the proceeds going to Pink Revolution and the McInerney-Zona Children's Fund. We strive to fill the Hart Center with support on Saturday and hope to raise awareness and money to fight, and hopefully to beat, this terrible disease."
"Pink Zone Day" is part of Breast Cancer Awareness Day at Holy Cross as the men's ice hockey team celebrates "Pink the Rink" at its game versus AIC at 7:00 p.m. The men's and women's swimming and diving teams will also be wearing pink caps during their meet versus Bryant at 1:00 p.m.
The game against Lafayette will also feature a halftime performance by the McInerney School of Irish Step Dance and an auction of pink shooting shirts, to be held 10 minutes after the end of the game. The special edition pink "Sader Nation" t-shirts will be on sale at the promotions table throughout Saturday's contest. Donations for Pink Revolution and the Zona Children's Fund will be accepted during the game as well.


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Healthy habits: Get physically active for a healthier heart
The American Heart Association says being physically active for at least 30 minutes on five or more days each week can help you not only look and feel better, but it can also help reduce your risk of heart disease.
Living a physically active lifestyle has many benefits, and all of these benefits can begin with moderate activity. This includes things like walking, biking — even housework and gardening. And if you enjoy more vigorous activities, that's great too. The more active you are the more benefits you gain. The most important thing is to get more active every day. And it's never too late to start.
It may sound impossible to find another 30 minutes in your day for physical activity but you don't have to do all 30 minutes continuously.
Being active for 10 to 15 minutes at a time can help improve your health. Stretch for 10 minutes in the morning before everyone gets up, take a 10 minute walk during lunch, and go for a 10 minute walk after dinner, and you have managed to work in 30 minutes of activity.
Try these tips from the heart association to help you find more time and motivation for physical activity:
n Use the stairs instead of the elevator.
n If you can, walk or bike to your destination.
n Take a 10-minute activity break at work to stretch or take a quick walk, or use your lunch break to add some more activity to your day.
n Walk to visit co-workers instead of sending an e-mail message.
n Go dancing with your spouse or friends.
n Plan active vacations — go hiking, biking, swimming, and pack your tennis racquets.
n Wear a pedometer every day and watch your daily steps increase.
n Join a sports or recreation team.
n Use a stationary bicycle or treadmill while watching TV.
n Plan your activity routine to gradually increase the days per week and minutes per session.
Go online at www.heart.org for more information.
Healthy Habits 2013 is a partnership among Cabell Huntington Hospital, Marshall University, Joan C. Edwards School of Medicine and St. Mary's Medical Center. We are a community working together to improve our health. Check out a "Healthy Habits" tip every Friday in The Herald-Dispatch.


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Born in North Wales, Timothy Dalton has forged successful careers in the fields of theater, film and television. One of his first film credits was the 1968 Academy Award-winner The Lion In Winter, starring Katharine Hepburn, Peter O'Toole, and Anthony Hopkins.
Later in his career, Dalton became renowned for his portrayal of James Bond in The Living Daylights and License to Kill. Most recently he starred as infamous detective Allan Pinkerton in the western American Outlaws. His film credits include the family sci-fi adventure The Rocketeer, the title role in The Doctor and the Devils, as well as playing opposite Fran Drescher in the comedy The Beautician and the Beast.
Prominent television appearances have included his roles as Rhett Butler in the miniseries "Scarlett and Julius Caesar in Cleopatra". He also starred in mystery writer Lynda La Plante's "Framed" and Showtime's "The Informant and Possessed".
His Shakespearean training has been reflected on stage with notable English theatrical roles in "Romeo & Juliet", "Love's Labour's Lost", "King Lear" and "The Taming of the Shrew". Dalton studied at the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art in London.
- Secret of the Wings (2012)
- The Tourist (2010)
- Tales from Earthsea (2010)
- Toy Story 3 (2010)
- Hot Fuzz (2007)
- Licence To Kill (1989)
- The Living Daylights (1987)
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What a crazy schedule. 2 six game home stands and one seven game home stand in the first three months.
I have not heard lately. I thought they was going to be a realignment.
Dice-K is coming back.
That solves all the Red Sox pitching problems.
WOW Amanda!
Way to hit 'em where it hurts.
I do agree. It sounds like he wants to move on as well.
What a putz. If he was hurt that is one thing. One rumor was that he wants to train for the Olympics but that is not until 2014. So is he planning on taking the 2013-14 season off as well? I do not understand these new contract deals these guys make. It seems to me if he takes a year off he should loose that year as well as the money in his contract and not be pushed ahead to the following year when he comes back...YOU SNOOZE YOU LOOSE. That is why I don't go to the games any more because I am not going to fork out $100 to support these guys.
Way to go LUCH.
You mean there are 4 events this past season greater than the B's 15 game unbeaten streak?
Can't wait to hear about them!!!
Over all I think the B's had a good season. Hope they have better luck next year.
I agree I think Horton would have made a difference in this series. Adam McQuade too. Oh well you dont score you don't win. I have to admit Washington did play a great defensive game with blocking shots and taking the B's shooters off balance. Overall it was a good series. Too bad on the outcome.
It will take someone to step and answer the bell tonight. Game 7 seems to be the B's specialty lately. Lets hope they keep it going.
Hopefully the B's can find the net on Wednesday. I still do not believe this guy (Holtby) is really that good. What's up with that? What do they need to do to score on this guy. Tell me Please.
B's need to keep their composure and be careful not to get suckered into any bad penalties and/or suspensions. i would still like to see McQuade back in the line up. just consentrate on beating holtby. he is all glove. the B's need to set up shots and keep away from his glove. you think that they would have figured that out by now.
time tonight to take care of buisness.


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Full detailed profile on Chloe Lane Wesley Black Horton Jonas Played by Nadia Bjorlin on Days of Our Lives Daytime Soap Opera.
Nadia Bjorlin (NBC)
Birthday: August 2 1980
Chloe finds Daniel at home. He asked Nancy for time alone so he and Chloe can figure out where to go from here.
At the square, Chloe asks Parker to tell everyone he went to New York, not Brazil. He says, "Brazil." Anne walks up warning that this will get her into trouble. They test him by asking where he went on an airplane. He says, "New York." They're relieved and gossip about Jenn dumping Dan which Anne thinks is "five star entertainment."
Daniel returns to the square and Chloe goes. Daniel asks if Parker had fun in New York. "New York," Parker repeats. Rafe shows up and Daniel tells him Nancy used her visa and passport to go to New York. Why would she need a passport and visa while traveling inside the USA? He thinks something is up and mentions Nancy not taking any photographs. Rafe agrees to do some digging. He goes off and returns later to confirm that Nancy and Parker were in Brazil.
Nicole drops by Chloe's. Nancy leaves them alone and Nicole blames Chloe for Jenn breaking up with Dan.
Daniel wakes up at home from a nightmare. Jenn's in his bed. He tells her they broke-up in his nightmare but she reassures him she loves him. He wakes up for real to Chloe knocking. She brought Parker home. Daniel hugs his son and comments that it won't take Chloe long to pack her things. Nancy tries intervening and runs Jenn down. Daniel shoots her a look and decides to take Parker out for a walk. He goes to change while Nancy worries Jennifer will spill all to Daniel. After Dan and Parker leave, Chloe wants to go after Daniel. Nancy thinks it's a bad idea.
Daniel and Parker play a game on Daniel's tablet at the square. Chloe arrives and babbles about being glad to bring Parker into Daniel's life so their family could be complete. Jennifer runs by and watches the trio with a painful look in her eyes. She runs off and Daniel goes home to get his cell phone. Chloe coaches Parker to tell people he was in New York rather than Brazil. It'll be his special secret.
At the hospital, Dan refuses to give up on Jenn and takes her in a passionate kiss. Chloe watches nearby as Jenn gives in. Maxine and Anne watch and Jenn pulls away. Other doctors arrive and overhear Daniel pouring his heart out. He finds her perfect and Jack would want her to be loved. He loves and cherishes her. Jenn flashes to Chloe's ultimatum and insists they're over. She humiliates Dan in front of everyone, claiming she mislead him. Sex with him was a mistake. She left feeling sad and empty. Dan's baffled and tries to touch her. She flings his arm back. The argument escalates and Maggie arrives. Jenn yells that he's not half the man Jack was and she doesn't want him. When he refuses to take it, she throws the necklace at him and says she's quitting her job. "Stay away from me!" she yells. She talks off and Chloe grins.
Daniel's at home licking his wounds when Chloe arrives. She confesses she saw everything. Jenn was out of control. She's sorry. He didn't deserve that. She asks him not to shut her out so he kisses her.
At his apartment, Daniel demands Chloe tell him what she said to Jennifer. She yells that she did nothing and is tired of being the scapegoat every time Jenn has a meltdown. Dan decides to go to New York and spend time with Parker. Chloe has a fit. She'll ask Nancy to return home. She calls and puts Parker on the phone. Parker tells his dad he's not in New York. Nancy grabs the phone and blames Parker being tired for his mistake. They hang up and Daniel's calmer but asks Chloe to pack her things and leave.
Chloe arrives to Jenn's to tell her that whatever she told Daniel didn't work. She'd better step things up. Jenn whines about the cruelty. Chloe tells her to give the necklace back. Jenn cries that she can't hurt him like this. Chloe says Anne was right. Jenn's selfish and cowardly. Jenn calls her delusional. Chloe threatens to get on the next flight to Brazil so Jenn complies.
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