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Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime) revealed: Slower than iPhone 4S, Galaxy S II
- By Sebastian Anthony on October 18, 2011 at 12:43 pm
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Courtesy of the loose lips of Japan's leading cellular carrier, NTT DoCoMo, we now have the specifications for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Software-wise, there are no surprises: it will run Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, but on the hardware front… well, there's no easy way to put this: the Galaxy Nexus has a lower spec than the iPhone 4S and Galaxy S II, and it's even comparable to the Nexus S in terms of graphics power. (Updated @ 23:00 EST: The following specs have now been confirmed by Samsung and Google.)
Now, rest assured that the Galaxy Nexus Prime will look the part: it has a vast 4.7-inch 1280×720 AMOLED screen, and the handset and screen have more curves than a curvy thing — but beyond that, this is hardly a landmark phone. There's 1GB of RAM either 16 or 32GB of internal storage (and seemingly no SD card slot), a 5-megapixel camera, and it supports the complete gamut of 2G, 3G, and 4G wireless technologies (except WiMax). Most importantly, though, the brains of the operation is the OMAP4460 application processor which has two Cortex-A9 cores clocked at 1.2GHz — quite fast, certainly, but it isn't the 1.5GHz Exynos that we were hoping for.
It is because of the OMAP4460 processor that the Galaxy Nexus will only have the PowerVR SGX540 GPU, an antiquated beast from 2007 that can actually be found underneath the hood of last year's Nexus S, and in the Droid Bionic. The SGX540 is very weak compared to the Mali-400 GPU found in Samsung's Exynos SoC (the one that powers the Galaxy S II), and it's positively snail-paced against the Apple A5's SGX543MP2.
What this means is that the Galaxy Nexus is going to be slightly faster than the Droid Bionic, slower than the Galaxy S II by a small margin, and significantly slower than the A5-powered iPhone 4S. The Galaxy Nexus might have a larger, brighter, higher-resolution screen than the iPhone 4's Retina display, but it won't necessarily have the graphics chops to actually render OpenGL games at 1280×720 at smooth framerates.
At this point there is still hope that NTT DoCoMo's specs are incorrect, but in all likelihood it now seems confirmed that tonight's event will be all about Ice Cream Sandwich, rather than the device itself. We will probably have to wait for next year's Galaxy S III and the Exynos 5250, a Cortex-A15-based SoC, before we see an Android phone that can compete with Apple's iPhone 4S.
Update: Android 4.0 Ice Cream sandwich has now been unveiled
Check out our explainer on why the Galaxy Nexus uses OMAP instead of Exynos
Read more (full specs) at Google Pad [translated]
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Nelis Perez
http://www.facebook.com/mark.monelli Mark Monelli
Phones make my head spin. Too many! I played i with a iphone 4s the other day at Verizon. Fast, good graphics. Makes me think ok, maybe i could use a small phone (Evo 4G current) and then have a 7 inch tablet for other things. I'm not loyal to google, i want what works best and is the fastest (network and phone). But then again i do not like that i have to update an iphone by plugging it in (OS updates). I think google wins on that front.
You don't have to plug the iphone 4S in for updates, you can update over wifi in iOS 5. :)
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HNWKPWF2JOUS2Z5T7HCYEMCNJI TB
looks like I'll be passing this phone up… I wanted to get it but.. no go on the speed.. motorola razr looks better..
http://twitter.com/imurgirlsdream Obz(urgirl'sdream)
retard, im glade people like you won't buy it. are you that retarded to actually believe this crap, and a 1.2 ghz is faster than a 4s, they can easily clock it to 1.5 or you can do it yourself. it will look far better than the razr.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HNWKPWF2JOUS2Z5T7HCYEMCNJI TB
looks like I'll be passing this phone up… I wanted to get it but.. no go on the speed.. motorola razr looks better..
"We will probably have to wait for next year's Galaxy S III and the Exynos 5250, a Cortex-A15-based SoC, before we see an Android phone that can compete with Apple's iPhone 4."
Well, at least we know where you stand.
He's not being an Apple fanboy, and I think there was a typo–the 4S is more powerful than the S2. The S3 will probably be the more viable competitor to the 4S.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Good catch, thanks!
Also, while I'm at it, I might as well say it again: I don't own an iPhone (and never have). I use a Nexus S.
Lon Grove
You are a straight-up clickbait regurgitating hack.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Hrm, I actually looked around for similar stories before I wrote this one, and I didn't see anything.
If you're going to throw around horrible words, you should also back up your claim. What's clickbaity about this? Am I falsely-reporting something? What am I regurgitating? And so on.
Lon Grove
Just look at most of the recent Extremetech headlines.
"Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Prime) revealed: Slower than iPhone 4S, Galaxy S II"
"Why you will love on-screen buttons in Android Ice Cream Sandwich"
"Android Ice Cream Sandwich, this is not the treat you are looking for"
"Can Google Siriously compete with Apple?"
Clickbait drivel!!! I don't look at or click on any of this sites advertising anyway (thanks ABP). So ExtremeTech won't be losing any revenue from me when I delete this site from my iGoogle page in about 60 seconds. I think this site has decended to trash writing and clickbait tactics and you Sebastian Anthony are leading this parade of tabloid trash tech vomit. Note to Ziff Davis…get new writers.
Your claims are just ridiculous. Has it occurred to you that ALL blog-writers write with the intention of writing articles that attract an audience? Oh wait, that's right, it's their job!
If you hate this blog site so much, just leave or at least stop trolling!
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Did any of those stories fail to fulfil their headline?
If you don't want to be considered a troll, you have to actually back up what you're saying.
Jonathan Jorge
Honestly Anthony, you're writing only proves how cool it is to come up with the MOST controversial headlines (no matter how false or ludicrous) in order to drive traffic. Awesome goal bro. I keep forgetting that most people got into writing to make a difference and report facts/truth (not spin them for your own SEO benefits).
Vasko Bozinovski
I agree with him actually. For those claiming the iPhone 4S is faster than a Galaxy SII are smoking crack. At no front is the iPhone 4S faster. Even technologically it's antique compared to the SGS2.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
How is the 4S antiquated compared to the Galaxy S II…?
Yes, the iPhone 4 has a slower GPU than the S II and Galaxy Nexus. I'm not sure what you are trying to say with that statement, though.
Vasko Bozinovski
What I am trying to say is you mentioned that the SGX540 was from 2007 and that it's an antiquated graphics chip, but the iPhone 4 which was released Mid 2010 had a SGX535. So in other words I'm failing to see how the SGX540 is antiquated when until a few weeks ago the iPhone 4 was Apples flag ship product, but we don't see no one bagging out its graphics chipset, albeit more archaic than the SGX540.
The 4S is antiquated compared to the S2 in all respects other than its retina display. It matches the S2 in some areas and lags behind in others (i.e. CPU speeds and RAM).
Apple does however make the most "polished" and "noob friendly" phone's out there which is why they excel at what they do, and time and time again they have released hardware that is sub-par compared to what's available on the Android platform.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
I still don't get you. The 535 and 540 were released at the same time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR#Series_5
The iPhone 4 is 18 months old. The Galaxy Nexus is brand new and uses a GPU that is the same age as the one found in the iPhone 4.
The 4S and S2 are very similar, "technology age" wise. The CPUs/GPUs are both bleeding edge and best in class. Again, straight megahertz isn't really a valid comparison, and RAM isn't a great metric either.
Gotta sleep now; see ya.
….from my understanding, referencing Wikipedia for facts is a no-no. And highly unreliable in most cases. ;)
The 4S is at the cutting edge on chipsets. It is faster than the S2 currently due to its optimizations in the OS. Once the S2 is on ICS and has hardware accelleration, the S2 will probably have the advantage.
However the GPU for the Nexus is old and it has a huge amount of pixels to push.
The new Exynos chipset that is now being sampled will be better that the 4S chipset.
Walter Nistero
In terms of 4S VS SGSII, SGS II has:
CPU: same architecture, 50% higher clock speed for SGSII
RAM: 2x SGSII
GPU: 2x faster iPhone 4S
Now this Galaxy Nexus Prime.. yes it will have same CPU speed as SGSII, but half the GPU speed (and 1/4th compared to 4S).
So it won't be a good gaming phone, but for running the os butter smooth the SGX540 is more than adequate.
I agree it's a (partial) disappointment on this.
And as for a faster GPU than iPhone 4S.. just wait for Kal-El ;)
Walter Nistero
It's not all about the GPU, FFS!
iPhone 4 VS SGS II:
iPhone4: 800 MHz single core Cortex A8
SGSII: 1200MHz dual core Cortex A9
SGSII is here at least 3x faster
iPhone4: 512MB
SGSII has 2x more memory
iPhone4: PowerVR SGX535 (half the speed of the SGX540 of the SGS 1)
SGSII: Arm Mali 400 MP (2x the speed of SGX540)
SGSII: is about 4x faster.
I'm just going to ask the question and give strait facts, what technology was made specifically for the iPhone 4s, and what tech made an entrance with the GS2 and then Galaxy Nexus? iPhone 4s: iPad's processor and GPU, existing screen and body of iPhone 4, new software
GS2: new everything, existing software (new touch-wiz UI)
Galaxy Nexus: no ground-breaking hardware inside, 720p Super AMOLED screen (correct me if I'm wrong, but a world first) and the newest smartphone OS on the planet
Jonathan Jorge
yeah man, this dude is obviously a fair and unbias tech journalist (blogger). Keep up the good smear campaign; it still wont make your iphone 4s any better than the Galaxy Nexus.
J. Whitaker McRae
Hey I disagree with the guy on a few opinionated statements too but no need to go name calling, that get's use nowhere when readers are looking for info on head to head comparisons! Give us some facts to negate the points in article, not slander on the author.
Sebastian, just ban this troll. He's just crying for attention.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Even trolls sometimes have something useful/important to say if you can see through the FUD!
I don't ban people unless they're explicitly rude or racist :)
You are too kind.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
I know, but I'm a big fan of free speech and very little censorship, so… it's kind of important to me that trolls can comment, as long as they're not too disruptive.
Also, I've seen quite a few trolls turn into friendly, useful, bona fide members of the ET community! Positive thinking…
Lon Grove
BS, ExtremeTech has become another Apple f@@kfest where fanboy writers go to drivel for their platform of choice. You can have your slant anyway you like it here at Extremetech (as long as it's Apple flavored).
the galaxy s2 was ahead of iPhone 4 sales in Europe for 2 months before hitting the US, get your numbers right
Samsung takes a whole year to bring the Galaxy 2 to the U.S.A and now with the New Nexus galaxy/Prime
it puts in a slower 4 cylinder engine compared to the V-8 monster it has in the Galaxy2 WTF!! is wrong with the people at Samsung, i see this as Samsung Sabotaging Google's personal phone projects.. now if this author is completely wrong than there will be hell pay…
Mark Heber
Better CPU, same GPU just more work for them to do because of the higher resolution screen and more intense OS.
Just like the apple 4S, too much hype that created way too high of expectations. I'm sure it will be good, just like the 4S turned out to be good after much disappointment.
Robiara Ubiratan Becker
LAME, G is trying to play apple's game and put the focus on the software, as if anyone would pick an android phone because of the OS version. And this time even the iPhone has better hardware. I guess we will have to wait until some custom ROM ICS is available on some decent hardware. Complete pASS.
Uh, I'm not a 100% sold on the accuracy of this article or the articles source. And I am certainly not making a decision on whether or not I will buy the phone until I see the actual device. Samsung only going with a 5 mp camera for the Prime when they have an HD display at their disposal? Doubtful, but I have seen crazier stuff before……Well, we will know for sure this evening……
This processor may be make or break for me. It should at least have the Exynos that is in the GSII
http://twitter.com/iyumgeek Geeky Geek
go suck the dick of apple you brainless bastard
Josh Barnes
You are clearly just a fanboy. The Iphone has an underclocked A5 processor that runs at 800mhz.
http://twitter.com/bufbarnaby Joe
Droid RAZR FTW !
Michael Andreasen
the N1 and the NS were not state of the art when they came out. (btw, i still use the N1 as main fone)
I was not really expecting it to be interplanetary hardware. It will be solid hardware in the top league though and have *some* great parts. screen for one.
What you get with the google device is the main OS player for the next while. it will get all the new versions 1st and be the software leader for a while.
It will be ample fast enough. I'd be amazed if it did not play the full HD video it can capture on it's 1280×720 just fine.
I'll be upgrading for my N1 and be quite happy. Then if the S3 comes out later and by then you can get some nice 4.0 customer roms, i might sell the NP and get and S3.
The real question for me is… how quick will google get 4.0 back into open source. android 3 was never open sourced and they said they would when the two forks (2.0 & 3.0) were merged back into 4.0., so waiting! :)
http://twitter.com/bufbarnaby Joe
Big miss at AAPL..WAH WAH ! AAPL dropping
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000104948432 Kenahn Ghazal
What a disgusting article written by another Apple loyalist.
Specs mean nothing, I'll decide which one is faster when both are in my hands.
that's funny because Apple haters always used specs as arguments against Apple. what a gross double standard
but for once, one spec is in apple's favor, so apple fans have a crumbling toehold
99.9% of the 140 million people who went out and bought an iPhone since its arrival in 2007 don't give a shit about specs. And most Android users don't give a flying rats ass either.
I was just bringing up a point. Just look on any other thread before this, you will find flocks of basement dwellers claiming iPhone is dead because it has outdated parts. Then Apple goes ahead and sells 4 million iphone 4s devices and 250k iphone 4 8GB version in one freaking weekend.
I personally don't give a shit about either of these phones, I just returned an iPhone 4s. Before this, I bought and returned a Bionic. Currently have an HTC Thunderbolt, and I'm sticking to it. I have an upgrade ready to roll, but I don't see anything on the horizon worthy of spending the money.
If the iphone 4s had a bigger screen and a LED notification light, I would keep it. The Moto RAZR would be more appealing if they would just kill off Motoblur. But after my Droid X/Bionic experience, I am never getting another Motoblur device ever again.
The iPhone 4 runs smoother on a single core CPU then the Bionic does on two HIGHER CLOCKED cores, with more RAM. The Bionic and Galaxy S II (which I used) both pale in comparison to the iPhone 4 and especially 4s in terms of smoothness, speed, and reliability. Like Apple users have been saying since 2007, it's all about the software.
http://twitter.com/greghesp Greg Hesp
What a crock of crap! The iPhone 4S is clocked at 800Mhz which makes the Galaxy Nexus faster in raw specs.
I remember when the iGays got a 2 year old phone in a shiny case, they said "Who needs a 5MP camera. Who needs a 1Ghz Processor. Who needs 1GB RAM, its all about the software"
You mean it makes the Galaxy Nexus CLOCK SPEED higher. That's not the same as performance.
Besides, I thought the article was mostly concerned with the GPU, in which the Galaxy Nexus has a decidedly very weak one when compared to what's in the iPhone 4S. You're not denying that, are you? I mean the GPUs are made by the same company, it's going to be hard to whine your way out of this one.
the GPU is a very overrated spec, and hardly relevant in even the highest resolution phones. the GPU simply controls the screen. it's like photography, a skilled photographer (CPU) can take an excellent picture with a 40 year old film slr (GPU), as long as the camera can capture the subject effectively. the GPU in the Galaxy Nexus is plenty fast to refresh the screen at well over 30Hz, probably about 60Hz on full charge, and professional cinematography (with the exception of overkill iMax) uses 24 fps anyway, games very rarely use more than a 30Hz refresh rate anyway.
I think you're mistaken.
Of course, it makes more of a difference if the software is designed to use the GPU for most onscreen drawing and animation, even 2D (iOS has always done this, Windows Phone 7 puts a huge emphasis on this, I think Android is starting to as well). Sure, the GPU in the Galaxy Nexus is fast enough to "refresh the screen", but it is really not going to be able to push games very hard- at least not at its native resolution and by 2012 standards.
I'm not sure where you got your info that games very rarely use more than a 30Hz refresh rate. Many iPhone games run at 60fps- in fact if they do not, it's because the GPU isn't powerful enough for the game, not because the game just doesn't "need" the higher refresh rate. I'm a bit surprised at your argument – PC gamers have been fighting over the GPU in their machines for the last 15 years or more- the GPU is a HUGE part of gaming. And as most mainstream computer GUIs are now video accelerated, even they gain a benefit from the "graphics card".
In the end, the PowerVR SGX540 is just not going to be powerful enough to really show off high end handheld games on the Galaxy Nexus as compared to the iPhone 4S or to a lesser extent other high end phones running Android. They will be about as good as what is possible on the iPhone 4, which isn't *bad*, but if any developers choose to take advantage of really advanced visuals they will have to be turned off for this device. In the coming months we'll start to see what's possible- comparing the same games on the iPhone 4S vs the iPhone 4 is going to give a pretty good analogy to the Galaxy Nexus (iPhone 4 GPU is a bit less powerful than the one in the GN, but it has fewer pixels to push).
i was talking about the games most people actually play, simple addicting games like angry birds (that's a bad example as i believe angry birds has fast refresh rate). the other reason i don't think the GPU will be a problem, is that it doesn't use as much power, and yes, remember the announcement of 0.01ms response time, they have obviously worked on integrating software and hardware. iOS has always been known for responsiveness, and i believe this is why, and if i know, google certainly does, and they are taking this head on
it is all about the software. the iphone 4 runs smoother on a single core cpu then the Moto Bionic running on 2 core. i have both on my desk right now. the iPhone 4s is even faster. you wont be able to appreciate the speed of the 4s until you use it for a day. you go from one running app to the next instantly by flicking your fingers across the screen.
the problem with the iphone is not the speed, it's other things. iphone lacks an LED indicator light in the front and the screen is too small. which is why i'll be getting a Motorola razr when it hits the shelves.
ha! Motorola "scoff" the only hope for them is that now that google owns them there will be major changes (too late for the Razr though).
If true, these are pretty disappointing specs. I was led to believe the Prime would have all the latest and greatest hardware, the phone to rule them all. No Exynos? Major fail.
Sebastian Anthony – You are such an Apple Fanboy even though you don't own an iPhone. You are probably sucking up to them in hope one of Apple executives gave you a bone….
I can't believe you even are allowed to write such a BS claim….
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TVRG3BXTROMOSSJQFMIAA3ZP44 GarrettF
I think we should hold of saying it's much slower than the iPhone 4S. If it's running an OMAP 4460 then yes, especially graphically, it will be. It could also be, however, that Samsung has clocked back the Exynos 4212 from 1.5Ghz to 1.2Ghz because of heat or to extend the battery life in the same way Apple clocked the A5 chip in the 4S back to 800Mhz instead of the 1Ghz it is in the iPad2.
Not a "landmark" phone? It has no hardware buttons on the face with everything built into the screen and it runs ICS… Heck for all you know the OS is optimized in such a way that it doesn't need the extra power and they went for battery life instead. If the phone is not slow, and everything runs silky smooth what do you really need a faster processor for?
who gives a shit about "no hardware buttons" when the bezel is still f**king huge! And the animated buttons still waste valuable screen real estate, just like on my Galaxy Tab 10.1.
No one will buy this brick. I hope to god the other manufacturer's don't go with this trend. There is a very good reason why the iPhone sold 75mil units in Apple's last fiscal year ALONE. that is because it comes in a practical form factor. Try sitting down with this thing in your pants pocket.
I am an android fanatic myself. I have owned more then a dozen android phones in the last 2 years. All my friends have iphones and blackberries. I am the only geek in the herd. but the sizes of these phones are becoming unreasonable.
Sorry dude but this thing will be thinner and the same Length/Width as the current Droid Charge which is sitting in my pocket right now. It's hardly noticeable. And the fact that it's much thinner than my Charge will make it even better. Please before you talk about screen size, make sure the PHONE itself isn't bigger. If anything my Charge is a bit bigger than the Nexus.
that's because the Droid Charge ITSELF is a god damn brick. Compare it something else with a 4.3″ screen, for instance, an HTC Thunderbolt
Thunderbolt: 4.75 x 2.44 x 0.56
Gakaxy Nexus: 5.4 x 2.7 x .35
Droid Charge: 5.11 x 2.66 x .46 in
it's nice that it is thinner, but it's over all dimensions are still way too big for a NORMAL human being.
you are the one who's not NORMAL human being….dick
don't argue with me, argue with the sales numbers. The overwhelming majority buys phones that are human sized. For instance, any and every blackberry, the iphone, and smaller screen android phones like the DINC and Droid 1, 2 and 3.
Bastian Breitzke
actually androids number is still rising quicker and quicker the bigger screen size didnt and wont change that… ios has fewer numbers than android also
You have no reading comprehension skills. Read my post AGAIN. It has nothing to do with platform preference. What I said was that the overwhelming majority of the people buy phones with small screens. The phones that make up a large portion of Android sales are small, cheap devices that post paid carriers give away for $0 – $50. And the $150 devices that pre paid carriers sell
"The phones that make up a large portion of Android sales are small, cheap devices that post paid carriers give away for $0 – $50. And the $150 devices that pre paid carriers sell"
The reason they buy them, is BECAUSE they're cheap. If everyone could afford the high spec phones, most sales would be for highly spec'd phones. Put some more effort into it.
also, it's not the CPU that's the problem. a screen with a 720p resolution needs a faster GPU then what they stuck i there. this is unacceptable. looks like a rush job.
the ipone 4s and iOS 5 are more then evident of being rush jobs. Read all the bugs and complaints so far on both.
Dont know what your talking about….
you are a moron. that's all i can tell you. every phone will have bugs. iphone is no exception. i ran into 1 today. my 4s stopped responding when i was trying to google something, had to hard reset, but then it started working fine. OS X Lion STILL has a butt load of bugs. But so does windows, and android wins the #1 spot for total number of bugs. I'm sure ice scream will not be an exception.
The difference is that a software update will patch most of the iOS 5 bugs, and Apple has a 1 month lead over the Galxy Nexus, so they have time. but a software update CANT patch a shitty GPU.
"but a software update CANT patch a shitty GPU"
Glad you realize this as you noticed the sugarpill patch from Apple failed…
Also in terms of being faster than the iPhone. i think the author completely forgot to mention 4g. A slightly faster processor is not going to make up for the lack of 4g on all the iPhones.
Vasko Bozinovski
How will the nexus prime be slower than an iPhone 4S? twice the RAM, and 400MHZ extra per core?
Am I missing something? The writer has no idea about "contextualising" his statements. If it's slower in gaming, then say slower in gaming. Generalising is not good for the masses of noobs out there, they need specifics.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
In terms of raw floating point calculations, the Galaxy Nexus may be faster than the iPhone 4S — because of the clockrate difference, and other architectural differences — but that's not really a valid benchmark, as the apps and OSes are so different.
John O'Gara
I think you should substitute the word 'complex' in your opening on this comment for the word 'subjective.'
I challenge you to produce references to the first part of your comment, which ultimately is all about software. A mainstream tech blog ran an article with javascript benchmarks, claimed it as processor performance, and got torn to shreds in the comments by the user community. You yourself point out its not apples-to-apples, as you are talking about how specific software is using what specific hardware. If its not comparable, how are you declaring a winner?
The second part of your comment is all about hardware. This is straightforward. Here you should substitute 'may be' simply with 'is.'
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJCREJLAXLVA5Q2IAEH57NOH34 Bryce
Hes talking about hardware on both counts dude. It's a fact that the GPU on the apple A5 is way superior to anything on the market–including the Exynos, go google it. At the same time however, hes saying its difficult to give an apples to apples comparison since the two platforms run different OSes, being optimized differently.
And just because a CPU has a higher clock rate, doesnt mean that its going to run the device quicker.
John O'Gara
By saying that its difficult to give comparisons, you are agreeing with me, and not Sebastian and dont even realize it. You have ZERO evidence to back up the statement that the A5 is superior. Telling me to google it and not providing a link yourself is proof you are full it. You haven't provide a link, because there isn't one. The closest thing you have is engadget's article on javascript speed which they falsely claimed to be a CPU benchmark. Their own community tore them apart on that garbage article, the same way this garbage article is getting shredded.
If a CPU has a higher clock rate, and the software is equal, it will in fact run the device quicker.
If software is the difference, then your claims are complete BS since none of us have had ICS to compare against Gingerbread or iOS.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
"If a CPU has a higher clock rate, and the software is equal, it will in fact run the device quicker. "
Man, have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years or so? CPU performance hasn't been measured in megahertz for a LONG time.
John O'Gara
Your an idiot… From your own post: "In terms of raw floating point calculations, the Galaxy Nexus may be faster than the iPhone 4S — because of the clockrate difference…"
I am still waiting for some of your mythical benchmarks that prove that the A5 is faster. Until then, all we have is specs to go on, and based on that you already contradict yourself.
The A5 uses the same base CPU but is heavily optimized. its GPU is the best out there. The soon to be released Exynos will have a similar GPU.
basically the iPhone 4S chipset is the best if not tied for the best currently out there. It has hardware acceleration in IOS which makes the phone run smoother. Now ICS may change this a little bit, since it now offers hardware acceleration and is supposedly optimized for OMAP CPUS.
We will have to wait to see the results in a head to head comparison, but the iPhone is currently the phone to beat. The real point of this article is just that a really old GPU is being used on a phone that has a huge amount of pixels. Doesnt seem like a good recipe.
John O'Gara
Look- I am vendor agnostic, I just like technology in general. As you point out, we have to wait for real comparisons, which don't exist yet. Maybe the 4s can play angry birds better; maybe the Galaxy Nexus can watch 720p on youtube better. Neither makes one faster than the other.
Other articles (on this site no less) explain that Google (not Samsung) made the GPU decision they did largely because it is optimized for HD playback. The Galaxy Nexus through hardware and software in ICS, is in fact optimized to utilize its native 720 resolution for video playback.
Ultimately the author doesn't do himself any favors by making claims he cant back up, especially when the reason for the decision on GPU is in another article on his own site.
I do agree that the experience is what matters, so if the optimization in ICS will make the Nexus fly, that is what really matters. Once we have some head to head tests and real hands on reviews we will see where everything stands.
http://twitter.com/chadwongchong Chad Wong-Chong
I wish I could retweet blog conversations instead of articles sometimes
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
You can link directly to comments!
http://twitter.com/chadwongchong Chad Wong-Chong
I wish I could retweet blog conversations instead of articles sometimes
Thanks for the comments. I found them to be very informative (more so than the author's).
John O'Gara
Look- I am vendor agnostic, I just like technology in general. As you point out, we have to wait for real comparisons, which don't exist yet. Maybe the 4s can play angry birds better; maybe the Galaxy Nexus can watch 720p on youtube better. Neither makes one faster than the other.
Other articles (on this site no less) explain that Google (not Samsung) made the GPU decision they did largely because it is optimized for HD playback. The Galaxy Nexus through hardware and software in ICS, is in fact optimized to utilize its native 720 resolution for video playback.
Ultimately the author doesn't do himself any favors by making claims he cant back up, especially when the reason for the decision on GPU is in another article on his own site.
John O'Gara
Look- I am vendor agnostic, I just like technology in general. As you point out, we have to wait for real comparisons, which don't exist yet. Maybe the 4s can play angry birds better; maybe the Galaxy Nexus can watch 720p on youtube better. Neither makes one faster than the other.
Other articles (on this site no less) explain that Google (not Samsung) made the GPU decision they did largely because it is optimized for HD playback. The Galaxy Nexus through hardware and software in ICS, is in fact optimized to utilize its native 720 resolution for video playback.
Ultimately the author doesn't do himself any favors by making claims he cant back up, especially when the reason for the decision on GPU is in another article on his own site.
When people notice lag in a game, it isn't the graphics rendering, it's deciding what to render, and therefore is a CPU calculation, not the GPU. Furthermore, the browser is far more dependent on CPU than GPU, even when displaying flash content, but I guess that doesn't matter, because iOS 5 doesn't support flash (not to bash iOS, because it is a very capable OS). The CPU is also more important in initially launching an app and multitasking. faster dual core processors also assist the GPU if it is overtaxed in certain situations (why do you think CPUs have specs about pixel rendition rates).
http://profiles.google.com/cwilkins79 Christopher Wilkins
Because the author of this article is a dumbass, that's how.
I bet he has Apple logos on his bedsheets.
arthur mendez
If you're comparing the GPU then yes the iphone 4S is much better. Overall the nexus prime is a very solid phone, but that slow GPU is disappointing.
Seems like a few of you failed to see that the GPU is overclocked than what it normally runs at. Rut roh!
he probably has Apple logo's totooed all over his forehead
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Nope, just spots, unfortunately.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJCREJLAXLVA5Q2IAEH57NOH34 Bryce
Hes saying hes disappointed by the chipset they used in the GNexus. I agree. The OMAP 4460 is already phasing out, and the SGX 540 was the GPU on the ipad 1, that was 2 years ago… Not to mention that the GNexus will have a highest resolution of any smartphone on the market…you would think they would put SOME precedence to graphics processing power.
However, to say that the phone is SLOWER than the iphone 4S based off of a weaker GPU? As for the Spring SGS II, I suppose so. Off the top of my head, the sprint version is the only one with the 1.5 GHz ARM Sammy Exynos, in which case it bests this phone by 300 MHz, but the international version, and the At&t version have 1.2 GHz clock rates, and the Tmo version uses the Qualcomm ARM7 architechure, which is inferior to the A9 of the more recent ARM based chipsets…granted that its stock OCed at 1.5 GHz, making the two pretty similar in terms of pure CPU crunching. Overall, a stupid article for throwing in his opinion, but at the same time, he never said anything untrue.
http://twitter.com/jlovison Josh Lovison
The OMAP 4460 is BRAND NEW. This is the first phone with that chipset. They had to dial back the clock from 1.5 to 1.2 in order to make it out in time.
He's not saying that the OMAP 4460 is old — only that the GPU PowerVR SGX540 is old.
From pdadb dot net (these are some of the processor specs):
dual ARM Cortex-A9 Harvard Superscalar processor core, LPDDR2 memory interface, embedded image signal processor (20MP camera support, 12MP stereo 3D camera support), 2D/3D graphics acceleration (IVA 3), 300MHz PowerVR SGX SGX540 GPU core (OpenGL ES v2.0, OpenGL ES v1.1, OpenVG v1.1, EGL v1.3), SmartReflex 2 technologies, M-shield mobile security, ARM TrustZone, HDMI output, Composite and S-video TV output, XGA/WXGA 16M-color (24-bit definition) display support, High Speed USB 2.0 On-The-Go support, 1080p 30fps video encode/decode, 1080p stereoscopic 3D video encode/decode, TWL6040 power management
Wikipedia indicates that the PowerVR SGX540 was produced in November of 2007. Along with the production/release dates of all of the other PowerVR chips.
Darren Loke
awww, the fact hurts doesn't it?
alex alex
Also the writer completly negates the fact that the software Android 4.0 is built for this device, just like the nexus one and the nexus s. This phone will run smoother than any other android 4.0 device even if its higher spec'd ( to a point i'm sure but one not yet seen )
If it is slower than the Iphone 4s. Then it disappoint to say the least. If it is not a world phone that also a disappointment. So if the author is honest the Nexus Prime, is not prime time. I will skip on it and get my first HTC Vigor. For is a world phone and is fast and serves my needs. I will be looking forward for the Samsung S III hopefully that is a world phone, and takes on the Iphone 4s. It might not be lte but it is a world phone.
http://twitter.com/SupremeBeing SupremeBeing
Wow. The GPU isn't as fast, so this phone can't compete with the iPhone 4S? So the massive, beautiful screen and sexy design don't mean anything, but the phone's framerates in 3D games do? Who even plays 3D games on their phones more than once per month?
I'm sure this wasn't meant to be fanboyism (right?), but your assessment is just wrong. I have an iPhone 4, and even if I had a 4S, I'd be filled with nasty, nasty lust for the Galaxy Nexus/Prime.
I have an iPhone 4s, had an iPhone 4 as well. Also had an LG revolution, HTC Thunderbolt, DINC 2, etc. As much as a don't like the iPhone's tiny 3.5″ screen, 4.7″ is just retarded. I'll be trading in my iPhone for the Motorola Droid Razr.
Walter Nistero
Don't forget, 50% faster CPU and 2x the RAM.
And Tegra II with Honeycomb is already beating iPhone 4S on javascript and other benchmarks..
So this thing with ICS will be the performance champion, aside for games, course.
this write-up is obviously biased so i wouldn't take any credibility in this piece.
he should have started off with "were all hoping that……..this phone is slow"
Guys, ya'll are ragging on Samsung for the TI OMAP. If it was their choice they would have put in the Exynos with the Mali 400, but it was Google who wanted the OMAP as the processor for the Galaxy Nexus. And the camera isn't too shabby either. Zero Shutter-Lag, Seamless Panoramic, f2.75 Aperture for low light conditions, it will kick ass.
Some of these other comments are a bit rude about it, but I think there's some validity in being upset with the headline. The 4S may or may not be faster than the Galaxy Nexus in terms of graphical rendering performance. However, the SGX543MP2 on the iPhone 4S has reduced power to accommodate the phone profile, and so may perform in a similar manner to the SGX540.
It's yet to be seen how they compare as only benchmarks can give us a clear picture. For all we know, the title of this article is completely wrong.
There is no way the SGX543MP2 in the iPhone 4S is going to perform down to SGX540 levels. It's just a massively more powerful setup. You could just look at iPhone 4S to 4 comparisons to see that (as the 4 has the slightly less powerful than the 540, the 535 chip, but is *several times* slower in graphics than the 4S).
After reading through all the comments below, as of me typing this, I can say with supreme confidence that this is the most heated debate I have ever seen. It's about as bad as console forums. Anyways, did anyone read the article on why the the OMAP was chosen? It seems that most people read the first paragraph and decided to comment on the article. And second, I don't know this Sebastian Anthony, but if any of you read the comments he says he uses a Nexus S. Even if he is lying, the funny thing is that all of you who give him crap for being an Apple fanboy would praise him if he had written anything about how Android Phones are better than iPhones. Basically, if this article was biased to all you Android Fanboys, it'd be a hit, but anything other is just the drivel of an Apple Suckup. How unfortunate that in today's age where news and information is easily accessible, you all choose to harass and belittle ONE source out of millions when you could be spending your time CONSTRUCTIVELY trying to find other, more "credible" sources for yourselves. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. But like you all care anyways. The second you finish reading this, if you even decide to finish, you'll label me as a heretic and go on hating the world and the people who report the news that doesn't seem to fit into your tiny mold of how things should be.
"How unfortunate that in today's age where news and information is easily accessible, you all choose to harass and belittle ONE source out of millions when you could be spending your time CONSTRUCTIVELY trying to find other, more "credible" sources for yourselves. You should all be ashamed of yourselves"
Yes it is unfortunate that I read this stupid article in the first place. wasted 5 perfectly good minutes of my life that I'll never get back.
And yes I am ashamed, not of myself but of you sir and Sebastian Anthony. Shame on you both.
Now, I must give you credit for suggesting I should find more credible sources which is what I'm about to do now, bye (spits on Mr_G123, Sebastian Anthony and extremetech.com)
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Wow, I went to bed and the number of comments doubled — insane :)
Writing about any major tech company is always tough. If this story was about the Galaxy Nexus beating the iPhone 4S, I would probably have just as many comments — just in the opposite direction. It's just how tech blogging goes.
If it's any consolation, the dissenting "omg fanboy!" comments come from a very noisy minority. They are not the overall sentiment of the Android community. There are plenty of objective and sensible people who can see that the OMAP 4460 is slower than what's inside the iPhone 4S and Galaxy S II :)
Thanks for commenting!
I just want to chip in here to say that I can fully see how witch-burnings were the scourge of Europe during the Middle Ages, why Coptic Christians are being murdered in Egypt (now), and how unreasonable in general people can be just because someone is perceived to question their 'world view'.
Yes, those were dramatic examples, but the vehement crudeness of the detractor/reactionary commenters is just…immature, insecure, and out-of-order. I'll admit that I do often read the comments for a laugh – some of them are so ridiculous that they set me off laughing solidly.
Back on topic, I have not read much on this site, but I do pop on here every now and then for a look, as it is refreshing to be able to read a reviewer/commenter's perspective not practically written by a tech company's marketing & PR departments (which is a problem in American 'journalism' not limited to tech sites and companies, unfortunately – just look at the coverage of the Wall Street protesters in NYC and other like-minded people).
I'm considering purchasing the Galaxy Nexus – to replace my Samsung Droid Charge – but I have legitimate concerns about the component choices, functionality, software integration, and overall satisfaction and performance improvement which is claimed for the device. I really want it! The screen is brilliant and gorgeous. Having a phone using the SAMOLED+ tech from Samsung already, I know from experience that standard LCD/LED screens are wan in comparison. But a beautiful screen is not my only requirement for a 'nice' phone – I want a resolution (pixel dimensions) much improved over the Droid Charge's oh-so-last-generation 800×480 pixel screen. And, the 4.65″ GNexus screen does sound attractive – but, I'll need to actually see it in order to assess whether the phone overall has become too large general use (for me).
I also have questions – which I have yet to be seen addressed at all on the popular tech sites – as to the stability of 4G chips. My Samsung Droid Charge DIED after only 2.5 months of gentle use. Well, it didn't die entirely – it only lost the ability to make phone calls. lol. I was still able to browse the web and listen to music. Verizon diagnosed it as a hardware failure. Surely, they don't want to send out replacement phones if unwarranted. And, the carrier rep who helped me with the problem had obviously seen this problem before – as we went through a few quick checks – before telling me that the phone could not be fixed and would be replaced. Which they did within 1 day. What I found when exploring the various Android user forums were many, many Droid Charge users with multiple phone-failure problems similar to my or worse.
I have yet to see one site offer a longevity review for any of the popular smartphones, categorized by manufacturer, from date of manufacture to replacement/failure, and the percentage of failed/defective products per product line.
We see that kind of information for laptop computers/manufacturers – which are similarly expensive tech items – why has this not been addressed with smartphone manufacturers?
I would prefer to make my purchase with accurate information presented not solely in an effort to curry favor with manufacturers, wireless carriers, and their media planning departments (you know, the ones purchasing all of the advertising on sites like 'Engadget')
So, Mr. Anthony, please keep it up. Thank you.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
Thanks for the bolstering words, sir :)
It's pretty weird, but if you actually ignore every single comment with the word 'fan' or 'fanboy' in them, the comments on ET are us usually very, very good. Anything that attacks an entrenched userbase always yields some pretty vitriolic comments, tho' — and it's just part of the trade.
I'm glad you like our impartiality. You wouldn't think we are, from all of these comments suggesting that Apple pays our wages, but… really… we exist solely for the purpose of writing interesting and objective takes on contemporary tech news. Sometimes it comes down on the side of Apple, sometimes it doesn't. It's really quite random, and generally it depends on the MERIT OF THE PRODUCT, rather than our own bias.
(We're nearly all Android users at ET, in fact.)
They say before u die ur life flashes before ur eyes but not for Steve jobs because Apple doesn't support flash
You should try visiting mobile websites on your phone. Just about none of them use flash anymore. And they render a lot quicker and easier to read than the full websites.
I use flash on my phone on most of the sites i visit. Who the heck wants a half backed mobile version of a web page? I cant stand it that one of my apps links videos to the FULL website to watch a highlight because Apple users of the same app cant do it…
I don't know… Maybe you just don't notice it because your phone doesn't identify itself as an
iPhone, so maybe it's just when your phone identifies itself as an iPhone, but almost all of the videos link to some Apple friendly version (90% of them being Youtube), or just play in the default quicktime viewer. There are over 100 million active iOS devices out there. The websites are forced to support those users unless they want to lose a large chunk of ad revenue.
Maybe you are just going to some weird websites that I've never gone to, but I (swear to god) honestly don't remember a single instance in the past year where I've missed out on a video because of flash. Sure, it happened 2+ years ago and was annoying then. But in the past year, any website worth a damn realizes that the iOS community is massive and they support it.
"Maybe you are just going to some weird websites that I've never gone to,here."
Yes weird to an iPhone user…
Sebastian Anthony, I don't know how to say this ,but pseudo-tech journalists like you simply give the rest of the industry a bad reputation. I don't know if you're just blatantly lying or you're just a hopeless ignoramus or maybe it's just a combination of both.My advice – get some other job. I'll hire you to polish my shoes, you should be able to handle that I hope.
I'm pretty savy with rooting my Android phone and pushing it to the limit. I'm also delving into Android development..having said that…the article is pretty informative pretty damn early in regards to the Nexus Prime against other Android phones. It's interesting reading the comments, the ones who seem the least knowledgeable are the ones bashing the editor and accusing him of being an Apple fanboy without even realizing he has an Android phone.
For the bashers..
1. Have you even tested an iPhone 4s against an Android phone?
2. Do you know the pros and cons of the programming languages Objective C(iPhone) and Java+XML (Android)?
3. How and where an app is installed?
For me…"YES" for all three.
There are pros and cons to everything….it all depends on the need and wants of the user.[Preference]
Plus, don't forget to factor in whether or not you're planning on on rooting your Android or jail breaking your iPhone.
I'll put it in laymans terms…
iPhone is to Android
Target is to Walmart
Acura is to Honda
Wow, what an incredibly unbiased title…and following article.
Journalism at its finest ;)
You should be incredibly embarrassed Sebastian. This article is absolutely pathetic. Grow up fanboy.
http://levelten.org tdmiller productions
That's what ARM, IBM (Watson), Samsung can do when they all get together. All components in Exynos are ARM designs. These three companies got together, brainstormed on Samsung's next generation chip and came up with Exynos. Then ARM put the icing on the cake. Since all internal components and designs were all ARM, they designed an "Optimization Package" that was applied as a PoP (Package on Package) and then the 40nm 1gig memory was also tuned with the massive bandwidth on Exynos and this beast was born! But….. wait there's more. Nothing like having Big Blue on your team in a cross licensing deal. Samsung together with IBM then shrunk Exynos down from 45nm process with ARM's direct help. Something Samsung's competitors haven't had the pleasure of incorporating into their designs. Consequently Qualcomm must rely on itself completely. Because they aren't even using real ARM cores. OMAP, Nvidia, Apple have A9 licenses, but they did not elect to include all ARM components like Samsung..So they did not have the benefit of having IBM and ARM involved in their ultimate designs past the A9 cores. Instead they are also going to TSMC to shrink their next gen chips. TSMC relies on Intel for it's 28nm (inferior) Gate Last process technology. lol…. and guess what? Intel gave up their ARM license in order to design,develop and promote their own Atom chips. So no Optimization Package from ARM for any of them! ahhaha… no wonder every ARM shrink at TSMC has been postponed time after time with foundry troubles. Samsung had it's 28nm/32nm HKMG GATE FIRST (IBM) process ramped up and in full production by March this year. They've been stock piling next gen Exynos since then. If this first gen Exynos can do this, what'g going to happen when they uncork Exynos 2nd revision on 32nm process? Yeah…. no frame rate cap, clocked to 1.5ghz to 2.0ghz w/o breaking a sweat, still saving 30% energy, half cost to produce and wafer yields doubled due to this optimized process shrink! Samsung phones along with Prime if it has one in it, will own every benchmark on the planet and cut this cubestormer time by near half! :D btw…. ARM's logic and bandwidth were custom designed for A9 CPU with Mali400mp4 as the first Quad core in production. Now that same Mali 400mp4 is clocked to 400mhz (last exynos 267mhz compared to SGX543mp2 at 200mhz) all coupled with onboard HDMI 1.4 ghz for 1080p standard to HDTV up to 200fps with Stereoscopic 3D optimization on top of that for 1080p 3D (dual field) at 70fps!!!
http://mobsido.com Gijo Johnson
Certainly it didn't turn out to be what was
expected and rumored. Still it's great. But, it could've been greater if it had
the 1.5 GHz processor and 8MP camera. But it's never slower than iphone 4S.
I agree its specs are dissappointing but so is the 4S IMO. People were expecting the iPhone5 with a super slim wafer design and larger screen. Instead they got iPad2 power and that ridiculous voice system in the same chassis. I think phone hardware development may be slowing due to battery and/or other issues. The timeframe between major phone improvements may be starting to increase.
Until you can actually benchmark the phones side by side to prove your point, quit stating your opinion as fact!
Until you can benchmark the phones side by side to prove your point, stop passing off your speculation as fact!
I agree that its underpowered for its resolution, it will be about as fast as the Droid Razr when you factror in the resolution. I dont think this phone is intended to set a new standard in graphics power, its the reference platform for Android 4.0. Apple always has a leg up in terms of graphics and games, expect this to continue indefinately with their exclusivity arrangements.
You should do a software comparison. IMO IOS is far far behind in terms of the abilty to customize the user experience. Sure IOS runs faster and has fewer issues/bugs. But you are basically presented with an interface and being told to like it. Android, especially the later versions, can be tailored and designed specifically to your likeing. Apple really needs to get with it with widgets. If IOS offered the level of customization of Android Honeycomb or ICS I would never buy another Android product.
Simon Jackson
Calling the phone "slower than the SGSII/iPhone 4S" is a stretch, because by some metrics it may well be faster. An SGSII beats the 4S JS benchmarks using firefox (Anand's figures using the stock browser compared results from old benchmarking software with new, and have since been amended) and since software optimisation is a huge factor in performance i think we should reserve judgment.
However, looking just at the GPU, the author is right to say it's a disappointment. I was going to go with a Prime for my next handset – now i'm not so sure. I'll wait and see what the reviews say when it comes along next month. Whilst the GPU is old, it was widely expected to be clocked at roughly 2.6x the old 540 in the iPad, so if this transpires it might be ok for most simple games. IMO, really intensive 3d games like infinity blade on iOS aren't the sorts of things i want to play on my mobile anyway – they don't play particularly well, they destroy battery life, and they aren't particularly well suited to the odd 5 minute go here and there. I've had GOF2 on my Atrix for months, and loved it when i played it, but i just never seem to find the time. Whereas i play Muffin Knight and flick golf shed loads. Provided the prime's GPU can handle these simpler games, I'm happy. I'll be getting a Vita for "proper" games.
When I read obviously biased stories like this one, I like to take a look at the other articles that that author has written. Half of his stories are about apple/iphone or how to make your android into an apple clone. It's one thing to declare a phone's faults, but its another thing entirely to judge before you even have a review model. Numbers are only half the story as you should very well know. Shame on you Sebastian!
http://www.mrseb.co.uk Sebastian Anthony
'Half his stories'… you know I have written a few hundred stories on ExtremeTech, right?
The last few weeks have been all about the iPhone 4S — the next couple of weeks will be about Android. If you dig far enough back in my archives you can find some anti-Apple stuff, too.
Shame on you for only going skin deep!
ardwan dakhel
I dont get it, the Galaxy Nexus has a 1,2 Ghz Dual core while the Iphone 4S has a 1,0 Ghz Dual core… Please explain how the Iphone 4S can be faster?…..Iphone fag….
it has a 800mhz dual core….
it has a 800mhz dual core….
You really ought to declare your allegiance in writing stories that only take into account your distorted view as being a fan of a competitor. But most of all because you are so obviously not even close to being technically literate. Most likely it all comes from your CrApple RDF and FUD'd Up "1984" Doublethink training.
You are continuing to portray those CrAppletastic skewed GLBenchmark numbers putting Apple's A5 over Exynos in Galaxy SII. Those are "OFFSCREEN" total frames run….. dumbarse. Number crunching on chip only. Not rendered to the screen and Exynos is frame rate capped at that. So they're bogus. Here's the total real numbers and the only ones that count, are Egypt Standard, High and Pro scores. The rest are just hypothetical's without running the GPU under full load as in actually rendering to a screen!
Exynos in GSII actually beats Apple's A5 in the scores that count most. Standard and Pro Egypt tests!
As for this new phone, if you don't actually have it in your hand using it, nobody is going to believe this bullshizt anyway. You should just stick to writing stories about Apple products where your "Doublethink" propaganda can do some good. At least for Apple fans! ;-P
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYBNPM55ANK3CUSEZYDOHPDOHE kenu t
Just wondering how much Apple paid you to write this article?Get you facts correctly buddy. check out this link below.http://blog.gsmarena.com/battle-of-the-year-samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-apple-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-table/
Jonathan Jorge
Yeah man, state your facts bro. How you were even allowed to post this article to even come off as somewhat factual is hilarious to me. Especially since I'm sure you've been running tests along side all the people who actually have this phone in their possession to make sure everything is as you stated in this article….FAIL
Samuel Tillman
Yes, the processing speed is all that matters to you huh? You throw out the fact that ICS destroys iOS 5 with it's features, you ignore the fact that this device has a superior display to the iPhone 4S(and any android device for that matter), and you ignore the NFC chipping embedded. Gotta love them fanboy articles.
Another clueless journalist .. ? oh… blogger … ? that makes conclusive decisions before they show the device. Then after seeing it, does not update the article.
Prob does not realize that they optimized the s/w for the device and intentionally chose a lower clock speed to save on battery life. While still being very responsive. At least the engadget folks updated their review once they played with a different build of the phone and revised their article with an 'update".
FACT 1: Not all SGX540 GPUs are the same. The SGX540 in the Hummingbird is 200mhz. OMAP4430(ie. Bionic) is 304mhz (+50% faster). OMAP4460(ie. Galaxy Nexus) is 384Mhz (almost twice as fast). The SGX543MP2 (A5 gpu; or basically a dual core SGX540)has the same speed as the original 540(200mhz) which makes it roughly twice as fast(due to 2 cores). Two different ways to skin THE SAME CAT, fanbois! Keep in the mind that the A5 in the 4S is underclocked(under 200mhz) compared to the one in the IPAD2. So the SGX543MP2 as implemented in the 4S is likely to be dead even to the SGX540 in the Nexus in terms of raw processing speed.
FACT 3: Software "deficiency" whether real or imagined is easier to fix than "hardware" deficiency (compared to the competition). For example, it's not a secret that many so called apple fans were hoping to get the iphone 5 with a larger screen. Instead, they got a 4S with the same screen(a hardware feature). Guess what, a year from now when they get the IOS6 update, they WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME MICROSCOPIC 3.5″ SCREEN. But since they DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, they will rationalize that 3.5″ is "perfect" (at least for now), or until the IP5 comes out. Just like how they have rationalized that screen resolution "isn't important" when they had their 3GS (compared to the higher resolution of the Droid1; 480×320 vs 854×480). LED flash in the a phone? "Not necessary" they insisted (in the 3GS). 8MP camera? "Not needed" (in their IP4). Antenna issue dropping calls in the IP4? "Doesn't exist!" they argued ("but you should really use a bumper or case.) So much for the superior aesthetics. WHY COVER IT UP THEN? More than 32GB of storage? Again, "not needed" according to IP4 users. WHY THEN a 64GB option in the new 4S?!?!?! 4GLTE, current 4S owners say they don't need it (but secretly hoped (before release) that the 4S had it and now hope that the IP5 will have it.) At least they have time now to make coffee while they wait for their content to stream from iCloud.
FACT 4: Fragmentation is real (whether it's a big issue or not is subjective) but it's NOT exclusive to Android. It's really caused by hardware diversity (resulting with more choices for consumers as a positive effect). IOS has "fragmention" too (to a lesser extent but they will deny it of course). For example, try running FACETIME in a 3GS. Good luck with that. Got SIRI working on a 3GS or original iphone yet? Uh-huh…
FACT 5: Current web browsing battery drain tests where 4GLTE devices get bad results has a big flaw in logic. Basically, they make the phones load a number of websites over and over again until the battery dies. 4GLTE devices typically last half as long as 3G or FauxG devices. What they never mention is the 4GLTE devices would have reloaded the websites many more times than the others during the test. AND, the "longer lasting" non-4GLTE devices actually spent WAY more time WAITING for the websites to load! A fair test should be to have them download the same given amount of data in the same given period of time then measure how much battery level was used.
Tests have shown that real world (not advertised) 4GLTE devices transfer data many more times than the "others". Verizon advertise their 4G to get 12mbps down, 5mbps up. I've gotten peaks of 37 down, 24 up. (I've seen others get higher.) I see an average in the high 20s down, high teens up. In a world where data connection to the cloud is everything, data speed is the most important. Yes, I have unlimited data with 20% discount, no tiers, no caps, no (4G) throttling. So are most of Verizon's existing customers. It's unfortunate that the new ones don't have this option. By the way, 4GLTE is an option. I can turn it off anytime I want my phone's battery to "last longer". Do you have a 4GLTE option?
did you even read what you wrote? Your logic is flawed all over!
look in P2, "Proof of this is in the same benchmarks where an Android Honeycomb 3.X tablet (using THE SAME Tegra 2 SOC found in some Android phones) was included, the tablet actually scored virtually EVEN with the 4S. IOS5 is brandnew. Gingerbread came out almost a year ago. Not a fair "apples to apples" comparison! IOS5 should be compared to ICS (or at least Honeycomb). "
your first sentence says that iOS 5 was compared to Honeycomb, your second sentence brings gingerbread out of nowhere, you third sentence says iOS 5 should be compared to Honeycomb, which according to your first sentence it was.
Then in P1, there is no evidence that the GPU was down clocked in iPhone 4s from 200Mhz, and the OMAP4460 in the Galaxy Nexus has an operating range of 1.2 – 1.5 GHz. But there is no evidence that the GPU is slower at 1.2GHz then at 1.5GHz either.
And for your info, I have an iPhone 4s, but I HATE the small screen and the lack of an LED indicator. I will be upgrading to a Motorola Droid RAZR, not the Galaxy Nexus. The bezel is way too damn big on the Nexus. And the lack of hardware buttons is more then well compensated by the presence of always on software buttons, like like on my Glalaxy Tab 10.1
You sound just like the brain dead Apple zombies I grew to hate.
Simon Jackson
His point about gingerbread in p2 was that most of the comparisons showing the 4S besting android phones in JS benchmarks, include gingerbread android phones (and stock browsers, in point of fact, which is a silly thing to do on a platform where software choice is a selling point). When honeycomb is used instead, the playing field is a lot more level. In fact, when firefox is used, the SGSII beats the 4S.
According to wiki the SGX 543 MP2 is 7.2 MFLOPS at
200mhz per core. So, in theory, clocked at 400MHZ the SGX540 could theoretically approach it's raw processing power (~6.4 MFLOPS). It all depends how it's clocked, but he's right to say not all SGX540s are born equal. However, as you rightly pointed out, the nexus has a much higher screen res. I think in practice they wouldn't have built the device if you couldn't get away with the majority of light 3d games and casual 2d ones. Things like GOF2 might be a stretch, but then again maybe not – we'll see. I'm reserving judgement til i see a handset in the hands of a respected site like anadtech (despite their f*ck up with the JS benchmarks).
To be fair he did also say that fragmentation was less of an issue for iOS. The fact that the iOS lifecycle is longer than android doesn't mean that iOS doesn't also have problems with fragmentation – they do. My friend still has a 3GS for example.
Android doesn't have a life cycle. Most android phones see 1 or 2 updates, if any, then they are forgotten about. I know my Droid x only got 1 update (not including the one it got 10 days after release to fix exchange email not working for anyone).
the 3Gs is more then 2 years old, stop bringing it up! If you must bring up old devices, just bring up iphone 4, where the only difference is Siri, a BETA of a program which eventually will be in the ipad 2 and iphone 4. You know what? let's compare Android devices running donut and eclair to ice cream sandwich too. THEN compare fragmentation.
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bravo sir, thank god someone with a brain spoke up!!!As far as I'm concerned, the Playstation Vita is the mobile hardware to beat, and regardless if you stuff an apple with an A-Bomb, guess what? its still an apple. Closed. Gated. conformist. expensive. etc. etc. Galaxy Nexus will be an incredible combo of hardware and software, which finally, truly outclasses any other superphone out there. Cant wait!!!
Question for apple fanbois, do you all drive Toyoto Camry's? If not, you should (base on your logic) because it's the best selling car, therefore the best car in the world. Tell that to Accord, Altima, Sonata, Optima, etc. owners…
http://www.youtube.com/user/no6969el Noel Barcellos
If you want it on T-Mobile then I suggest you go here http://www.samsung.com/us/register/galaxynexus/ and vote for T-Mobile!!!!
If you need a quick video how to you can check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFboMo7zHJU
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K6ERJQUJ3M25DB4QLUOC4TKPQY Paul
THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT!!!! The article loses all credibility when he says "more curves than a curvy thing."
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YOXFVCIBZGFXKMHAFB7QQOLG6M StevenG
Ignore it, author is abviously an Apple bigot
I guess it's a good thing I'll be buying this for a phone and not to play games :-/… More importantly, quad core Android phones will be out by the summer time refresh if power & speed are really what you're looking for. If the UI is as snappy and responsive as I've seen in the videos, then I don't care to wait… The beauty of the hardware and the UI are the sexiest I've seen yet, period.
I guess it's a good thing I'll be buying this for a phone and not to play games :-/… More importantly, quad core Android phones will be out by the summer time refresh if power & speed are really what you're looking for. If the UI is as snappy and responsive as I've seen in the videos, then I don't care to wait… The beauty of the hardware and the UI are the sexiest I've seen yet, period.
The GPU clock speed in the OMAP 4460 is about twice as fast as other previous devices PowerVR SGX540 so it's not slower than either of them. The fact that's it's not dual core might make it less efficient but it's going to be fast as hell.
http://twitter.com/JLWagz Jon Wagner
Who cares how fast the GPU and CPU are when you're sitting there trying to read a 3.7″ screen it all sucks, period.
Tobin Chackumkal
FALSE ARTICLE, who ever wrote this is a dumbass!
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HRRZJZGQGOF33Z6UAQU43DYCSI Nikko
we should FUCKING WAIT and see, it's a completely revamped Operating System made specifically to use both cores efficiently. That is why i am not making assumptions.
this article is HELL biased
Was hoping to see an objective and unbiased review but it outright sounds like an ad for Apple iPhone like so many articles on the Web already. We agree that is was an innovative product at one point but really gettting tired of seeing the same perception setting/brainwashing messages over and over again. WE CONSUMERS just want real, fact based info on other new products as well! We think that's what tech review should be about.
Is Nexus Prime really that good, intimidating, and better than iPhone? By the way, who makes the CPU for iPhone?
Better off seeing the reviews on YouTube for more unbaised details…
Enough arguing people and stop wasting energy. Go and see for yourself and do a side-by-side comparison of Galaxy S2 and iPhone4 or 4S and perhaps Bionic or RAZR when it comes out. You will clearly see who the winner is in very objective and unbiased way, not the blinded religous way…. That's exactly what we did and switched to Galaxy S2 from iPhone on the spot… Acutally, we are returning Galaxy S2 and waiting for Prime (Galaxy Nexus) now, which is even better… We are not religious and we only go for whichever is the "best" at the time… Obviously, it's one's right to stick with the second or third best for whatever reason…
This guys is straight up an Apple Fanboy this article is hot garbage. Go to any website that does full benchmarks on mobile devices and you'll see that the iPhone 4s is months behind on technology when compared to the latest Samsung products…….again don't listen to this idiot and you don't have to take my word for it. Go to websites that's not biased on any products and just give you straight facts, unlike the idiot that wrote this article and you guys judge for yourself. By the way, Samsung makes most of the major components of iPhones for Apple, including the processor and other major components……..Samsung is just smart enough to keep the better parts for their own use.
Even in build quality and durability the igarbage 4s loses out…..I guess metal and cheap glass loses over plastic and gorilla glass: Pretty sad, but I guess much like their hardware and software, Apple does not test the build quality of their devices:
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4460 use a PowerVR SGX540 integrated 3D graphics accelerator
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compared to previous incarnations of SGX540 typically at 200 MHz making
them theoretically much faster. + When you take into account all the glorious dual core optimization and new tweaks ICS brings with it, we can just declare it will be the fastest phone of year 2011. END OF DISCUSSION.
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Aren't you kinda comparing apples to oranges? I mean IOS VS Android OS is completely different and software to hardware components might be reflected by the software thats running? You could say A5 or the processor in galaxy prime is slower/faster depending on benchmarks but your also taking it off completely different software so the likelihood of their being discrepancies is much higher. You might have a better processor but since their not relative in software perspectives theres really no way to compare unless OS is identical then you would see the difference.
http://twitter.com/ItAintYouItsMe Otis Ellis
This article takes no account for how ICS along with the G. Nexus hardware will increase performance over Android gingerbread devices, nor does it point out that the iPhone 4s has been underclocked to 800 mhz even though it's using the A5 chip. Get your facts straight. The iPhone 4s barely even beats the iPhone 4 in performance/rendering websites/ and gaming graphics
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QDHDEAEGBBXFLY65XBMNXTXKQY Grace Sadoh
Will the Samsung galaxy s 2 be able to switch from gingerbread to ice cream sandwich (android 4.0) when it comes out?
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I have never seen more comments in a Article Ever! lol What have you done!?
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I crossed the beams :P
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D5WFGF7DI4BNBFHLT5ZJZYZMP4 EricW
This sucks such great specs and a crappy GPU. If your using the phone and apps it will beast. Gaming on the other hand… Anyway just decided to upgrade to the 4S as it was net free and I still have $300 app credit that came with the account. I think next year will be great for Android ICS, quad core, good GPU, amoled, etc would be sweet.
The title of this is misleading. It should say Apple will be faster with graphics not faster overall. Unless the author can show that having a faster GPU will improve the CORE APP logic to the extent that the app will run faster then this is a misleading title.
I'm not a gamer so the only time my phone really kicks on the GPU is for some of the transitions. But for most of the stuff I do with my phone having a faster MAIN CORE is more beneficial … Until the GPU starts running iOS scheduler I think I'll punt on what is being said here.
Very misleading. This article says the Apple is faster with graphics which doesnt help someone who doesnt play games.
Until the iOS starts using the GPU to run the scheduler and apps start using the GPU to do their main logic I will have to let this pass. the article should contain in the title "better graphics performance" not better performance.
Pardon the comment from a technical know-nothing; Doesn't the carrier matter here? Verizon does not offer 4glte for Apple because of its network. Would that not make the Apple slower than the Nexus Prime for internet access regardless of the statistics of the respective phones. P.S., I have never seen such vituperative and personal attacks on the previous commentator(s) as this article. It's just a phone!
Just read this review and ignore what this author speculates
ofcourse the iPhone will always have that edge. please just use commen sense. small screen iPhones will always have better quality, and big "heavy" iPhones will always run faster. It better with that much weight to hold a motherboard in it.If you want simple, and boring then just get an iPhone, but give credit to the real tech. heros.
Christopher LaPointe
Sad world that we live in when people think that the most minute of specs are cause for concern. The ICS experience will be incredible, and that's all that really matters if you're buying this phone. Specs can't be trusted: my two year old OG Droid took better pics than my Bionic; it's all about how the handset uses the specs.
The thing that confuses me about this blogpost is the conclusion. Since when has performing hardware specs determined the actual performance of an electronic device? If you were talking about generationally disparate components, that would be one thing, but since these are comparable components, maybe you should wait to take into consideration how the latest Android OS comes into play in tying all of these pieces together. After all, software plays a major role in performance on these devices.
I don't dispute your claim as I have no evidence to the contrary, but I do assert that it is a premature claim to make.
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Galaxy Nexus is the best phone of 2012, at least till CES 2012 Best 2012 phones
I had a Nexus Prime. Gave it back, shocking camera, device is badly made and of poor quality. Not a flagship phone at all and likely to be swallowed by a wealth of devices come full icecream sandwhich release date. The camera is appallingly bad as well as the battery life, but it does charge rapidly though. Got a Razr instead, which I can highly recommend. Steer clear of this phone, it's not good.
I had a Nexus Prime. Gave it back, shocking camera, device is badly made and of poor quality. Not a flagship phone at all and likely to be swallowed by a wealth of devices come full icecream sandwhich release date. The camera is appallingly bad as well as the battery life, but it does charge rapidly though. Got a Razr instead, which I can highly recommend. Steer clear of this phone, it's not good.
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Until wages rise we will be mired in stagnation at best and epic decline at worst. If they showed more time you would see an even bigger drop since 1999, the most recent high, and a bigger drop since the 70s. It is amazing that our "economy" (read: FIRE industries and possibly tech) has grown so much (to record high in the S&P recently YEA, except the more than half Americans without stocks ((even in retirement accounts) with declining real wages. This is only made possible via debt which has destroyed the balance sheets of most families and the gov't while making issuers of debt very wealthy. Capital has dominated it is time for labor (read: people who work, not people who have money) to be paid more. It would be most beneficial to all if this occurs by way of leadership vs by way people having enough and demanding it. Gov't programs have prevented the second outcome to this point (PS many low wage paying employers ((Wal-Mart to name one)) tells employees who even with a job qualify for poverty programs, which gov't programs to use – effectively having a known subsidy to its labor cost).
People are much more productive today and are asked to do more than in the past, so why are we being paid so little and effectively starving the local (and really world) economy?
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If your bed needs a makeover and you want the result of that makeover to be "burger," this awesome burger duvet and pillow cover set by Spanish designer Davidelfín might be for you. More
If your bed needs a makeover and you want the result of that makeover to be "burger," this awesome burger duvet and pillow cover set by Spanish designer Davidelfín might be for you. More
Yesterday Kenji recommended gifts for the burger-maker. Today I bring you fun burger-themed gifts that are mostly useless in the kitchen but are good at telling the world, "I LOVE BURGERS"—clothes, plush toys, keychains, art prints, and more. More
Aspiring junior burger-maker in your midst? Or perhaps a hardcore amateur trying to up their game? Here are six essential items for any burger-maker-lover in your life—tried-and-true tools they'll use every time they fire up that grill or griddle—plus two ingredients to help make great burgers. More
File this under "best example of plush engineering I've seen in burger form." New from Sanrio is this reversible Hello Kitty burger plush ($28). One side is Hello Kitty holding a burger, but turn it inside out and it becomes a burger with Hello Kitty's face on the bun. More
Last December Gift Couture raised money on Kickstarter to print burger-themed wrapping paper, and now you can buy it online at goodsie.com. $25 gets you six sheets of wrapping paper: two buns, tomato, lettuce, cheese, and meat. More
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If you want the burger-themed wrapping paper above to become a reality, help fund Gift Couture's Kickstarter project. They're trying to raise $7,900 by the end if January 1 to print at least 1,000 sheets of each design and ship them to backers, along with enable them to release future sets of wrapping paper. A minimum $20 pledge will get you a full set of the burger gift wrap, while a pledge of $150 or more will also get you a handmade golden cheeseburger trophy. More
It's hard to get your burger game on without the right tools and raw materials for the job. We already gave you some of the basics in last year's guide, like a meat grinder, a slicer for your onions, and a custom steaming towel, but here are eight more gifts for the burger lover in your life. More
Whether the burger lover in your life is into just eating burgers, making burgers, or wearing burgers, you should be able to find something worth getting in our burger lovers gift guide featuring slider-making tools, meat grinders, T-shirts, kitchen timers, 3D puzzles, and more. If you can't find the right burger-themed gift in this guide, check out our guides from 2007 and 2009. More
[Photographs: White Castle] Remember those burger-scented candles White Castle put on sale this past May...and sold out of in 48 hours? They're bringing the candles back tomorrow, October 27, at midnight, only available in their online store for $13... More
[Photograph: Chinnychinchin] When a heart-shaped locket just won't do, keep a photo of a loved one/burger close to you with this gold-plated burger take-out box-shaped locket ($80 from Chinnychinchin). Also comes in silver.... More
[Flickr: ilovedrywell] To illustrate how pre-ground beef patties could contain meat from up to 100 different cows, artist Alyson Thomas drew this butchery-style diagram of a burger for her blog Meat Sections. As Alyson says, all the more reason... More
Ever since I was little, my favorite section at Japanese supermarket Mitsuwa in Edgewater, New Jersey, has been the candy section—more specifically, the "toys and knickknacks that include candy" section. During my last visit this past weekend, this jumped out... More
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[Photograph: Pearl Dragon on Etsy] This knitted wool Aussie burger pillow ($20) from Pearl Dragon on Etsy includes a purple layer for the beet slice and a yellow layer for the pineapple. Nice gift for the Australian burger lover... More
[Photograph: USB Geek] The tagline of USB gadget store USB Geek, "Your USB Solution," implies that the Hamburger Warming Mouse Pad ($15) is the answer to a problem. A problem that can only be solved by a plush heat-generating... More
[toddland] I would totally buy this burger wallet if it had a pocket for coins. But I'm apparently the only picky one since it's currently sold out until November. $24 from toddland [via Burger Beast]... More
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Rail and road funding tops UK government's infrastructure spend — KPMG
Spending of GBP66.2bn on transport projects in the UK account for more than half the government's construction total pipeline value, professional services firm KPMG reported on Tuesday. KPMG has published a report titled UK Government Construction Pipeline – KPMG Analysis. […]
Network Rail selects Carillon for 7,000km of UK rail track renewal
British integrated support services company Carillion announced on Monday that it has been awarded a five year contract to carry out GBP100m of track renewal work by the
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Rail travel costs are set to increase dramatically again next year, with the average regulated fare - which includes season tickets - going up 8 per cent. At 5


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12 May, 2014@6:46 pm
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This new track from Dutch duo Chocolate Puma "Rubberband Lazer" is a serious house tune that drops into a thunderous bassline. Out May 27 on Dim Mak Records, "Rubberband Lazer" is the perfect fusion of a four to the floor beat that's meant for a massive soundsystem, combined with a bit of the cheek that Chocolate Puma are known for.
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