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PS4 sales top 10 million worldwide, while Xbox One still only around 5 million
- By Sebastian Anthony on August 13, 2014 at 6:31 am
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At Gamescom in Germany, Sony has announced that the PlayStation 4 has sold over 10 million units since it launched less than nine months ago in November 2013. By comparison, it took well over a year for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 to break 10 million units sold. The PS4 is undoubtedly a runaway success. Meanwhile, Microsoft still hasn't released any recent sales figures for the Xbox One, suggesting the console isn't doing all that well. Our estimates put the Xbox One at around 5 million units sold through to customers — or about half the total sales of the PS4. According to a fateful quote by ex-Xbox chief Don Mattrick, it would appear that the PS4 has won this generation's console war.
Way back in 2008, the Xbox 360 beat the PS3 to selling 10 million units in the US. Filled with celebratory hubris, then-Microsoft devices chief Don Mattrick said the following fateful words: "History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." It was an odd thing to say at the time, and the Xbox 360 certainly didn't go on to win the war (it was a tie), but it's certainly an amusing quote that every PS4 fan should keep in reserve.
It's also worth noting that the 360 was launched a full year ahead of the PS3 — and that despite the head start, total sales for the Xbox 360 and PS3 are virtually tied at 83 million each. For the PS4 to be at 10 million worldwide sales after just nine months is not only a huge achievement, but a good sign that the console will enjoy a very healthy trajectory over its lifetime. Sony's European president, Jim Ryan, twisted the knife with the following clarification at Gamescom: "Just to be clear, that's 10 million PS4s sold through to consumers." (Here he's referring to the fact that Microsoft has only reported the number of Xbox Ones shipped to retailers, rather than actually sold to customers.)
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What this means for the Xbox One, though, is unclear. On the one hand, ~5 million consoles sold in nine months is still objectively very good — but as far as gamers, and more importantly developers are concerned, it still makes the Xbox One the loser. Just a couple of days ago, Crytek, which developed the Xbox One exclusive Ryse, said it's "not 100 percent happy with Xbox One sales right now," and will wait for console sales to increase before considering a sequel. If the sales gap continues to widen and the Xbox One becomes an also-ran like the Wii U, you can certainly expect some developers to jump ship to the PS4, or at least be much more reticent about developing Xbox One exclusives. (Though, Microsoft did just announce that the Rise of the Tomb Raider sequel will be an Xbox One exclusive.)
If the gap continues to grow, expect Microsoft to continue making changes to the Xbox One to make it more desirable to gamers. A hardware upgrade for the Xbox One could be on the cards, or more price cuts and game bundling. Even then, though, it's not like Sony won't fight back. I think Microsoft will struggle to close the gap in the short term, and it doesn't look good for the long term either.
We'll have more Gamescom coverage later today; stay tuned.
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"According to a fateful quote by ex-Xbox chief Don Mattrick, it would appear that the PS4 has won this generation's console war."
I think it's still a tad early to be making statements like this.Although i am a PS fan and own a PS4 i think there is a long way to go in this "console war" and i would never underestimate MS.Here's to healthy competition.
Marc Guillot
Obviously it is very early to proclaim winners, but I guess the irony of that quote was too much to let it pass by. Showing how sometimes your own words come back to bite you on the ass. XD
it's only healthy if the products are on par in terms of quality… forcing a competition against inferior product is actually bad for the industry since the life cycles are long term intervals rather than something easily remade.
Soul Less
Clueless Competiton means the consume rpicks the winner and the better
product is winning competiton has never meant Sales parity that is
moronic. Sony is not in a bubble ther eis always competition from
mobile, PC, Streaming…….PS2 dominated and the games never suffered
at all.
People dont even understand what competition means.
exactly, why nothing would be different if the xbox one was gone, it's already as though it was never made.
i would…i own an xbox and after yesterdays dismal gamescom which was billed that there would be HUGE ANNOUNCEMENTS if thats all they got….its over……the holiday shopping season will signal the end…..PS4 is going to destroy the xbox at a minimum of 3-1
there major announcement was not so major after all. TR is timed exclusive, confirmed by Phil Spencer himself.
Please, provide a link to this source so I can spread the news.
Hah, well Tomb Raider was a big announcement.
The uproar from PS and PC fans was insane.
Still feel sorry for all the people behind the game, along with the writer and the voice of Lara.
Not to mention they even provoked Karl Stewart who doesn't work for Square Enix anymore.
I'm a PC gamer, so I'm very happy to see it's timed, but it was a sad day to be a gamer, the way they behaved that day.
I read some of the most awful diseases.
Tom Graham
It's only a timed exclusive so it will be coming to PC and PS4. That has been confirmed. Kind of like Plants v Zombies Garden Warfare. I bought it on XBone because it was exclusive but shouldn't have bothered because not much time has passed and it's now on PS3/PS4 etc too.
I will drink to that, demise of stinking Microsoft. I have been looking at pc gaming that might be the way forward
on Windows…..??…stick it to those Microsoft b@stards! :)
Dude ALL of my friends have waited for Halo MCC. That game will be what GTA3 was for PS2…. There are soooo many 360 owners who have not bought an X1 yet and will people please let the damn console launch to a fair amount of territories before anyone calls a winner??? Holy shit if I have never seen so many hasty people. If PS4 took a crown today what will that do for any of us tomorrow??? NOTHING!
Theres alot more to this then the x1 being a lousy next gen system. Its the fact that the company behind the console tried to do alot of things that were very bad for gamers. It was almost like they were saying they couldnt care less about their fans. The only reason they back tracked from all the awful things in the pre launch e3 was consumer backlash and really bad press. Then they basically penalize early adopters by trashing the kinect and waste your extra 100$. Now alot of people, about 10 million of them, bought the ps4 because its the better system. Former 360 just couldnt take MS screwing them anymore plus the fear that all those bad things that were patched around on launch day could return at their discretion. Only the sadomasochistic xbot fanboys and the uninformed few still bought the damn thing. So it doesnt really matter what games they make, MS has screwed theur fans one too many times and the ones who can see that changed over to Sonys better system.
Not really healthy competition when a company strong arms exclusivity by throwing cash at a Publisher. Just to not have the game on another system when yours lacks the 1st party exclusive developers.
Tom Graham
And despite XBox using cash to buy exclusives and not skilled first party devs they are still losing comprehensively. Shows that the gaming public aren't as dumb as they expected and hoped.
Oranji Juusu
Yeah I'd like to see what their second holiday season brings before making such a claim. I still bet the PS4 is going to be the hot item.
X1 will drop to 350 this christmas. 100% no doubt about it. Yet still no reason to buy one.
Kim Marius Falch
funny, the Ps4 is around 350 here already
Where? Well at least it isn't dropping because its doing horribly sales wise. They have managed to make it less expensive to make. But whatever discount your seeing now is retailers decision.
What are you talking about claiming it's too early. Read the article again. Don Mattrick said the first to 10 million wins the console war and now Sony is first to 10 million. He said it, the xbox chief, not us, not Sony. In reality it's not the fact that Sony got there first, it's the fact that the XB1 is only 5 million. That's the real story. Game over.
I believe Don Mattrick is the ex head of XBox, as stated in the article. I believe he is now the head of Zygna, as stated by the internet.
Nice one it is a gaming console not a pc Microsoft shot there selves in the foot rushing this pile of junk out.
Soul Less
Clueless Competiton means the consume rpicks the winner and the better product is winning competiton has never meant Sales parity that is moronic. Sony is not in a bubble ther eis always competition from mobile, PC, Streaming…….PS2 dominated and the games never suffered at all.
By them doing this means they probably have only sold 4 million units…or less
Microsoft has been approved to sell 5 million units in China..which will put them at 10 million :)
Kim Marius Falch
they haven't sold out the last 5 mill consoles they shipped to retailers. If Microsoft claims victory by pronouncing 5 more mill shipped consoles,something they probably will.. it doesn't count as sold…. Sony have probably shipped 15 Mill consoles already. and 10 mill people bought it. 5 mill console in a country with 1 billion people, and in a country that actually have voted for Sony. Sony will sell a lot more in China then Microsoft.
I don't think Microsoft or Sony would be dumb enough to declare themselves winners yet. Also, Time will tell on Playstation in China. They are going to be allowed to sell it this time but will the Chinese public buy a Japanese product? I'll go out on a limb here and so no…there's a relatively recent bad, bad history between the people of both countries. China could make or break either console, considering the population and the fact they are experiencing an economic up turn..
Because you're dumb and uninformed, I'll tell you: The Chinese prefer the PS4 immensely over the xbone. There have been a shitload of surveys and the Chinese seem to prefer the PS4 by a 5:1 ratio. Why? Because they're smart and inform themselves thoroughly about their purchases, not like in america. The DRM and NSA fiasco is well known to them, which is why the xbone is hated over there.
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But chinese people hates america over japan in a 5:1 ratio
Ewwwww…you also do know how dumb you sound considering you are insinuating that Americans don't research what they buy and the Playstation 4 it outselling the Xbox One in the US…
it was prophesized of back in 2008..
so it was written, so shall it be done…
No mate the Xbox one is crap, slow, laggy, the worst decision I have made In buying a console wouldn't advise anybody to buy this garbage its a gaming experience alright but not in a good way, I play with 150meg down 12meg up, on my pc I get 8 ping xb1 ping is 160 the probably 1 server is in America, round the corner kills you see a head pop up you aim your dead & that's not because I am crap its the ping DONT BUY XBOX ONE you'll be sorry P.S. if titanfall is the future of gaming Oh dear me.
Kevin Dorland
sold through is actually no more than the 3 million unit range, it's just over 5 million shipped and that is why the sales figures are becoming stagnant, because retailers are running out of space on their shelves and wisely not ordering more until those current units sell.
XB1 is 5.1m shipped minimum, plus 1.1m shipped 360+Xbox One. MS didn't say how much of that 1.1m is XB1. I'd guess around 5.5-5.7m shipped, and 4.5-4.7 sold through by start of August.
VGChartz has XB1 at 5 mil but they're probably overtracking by 200-300k.
10 mil to ~4.7 mil is still a shut out. No need to exaggerate how badly they're doing.
Wii U is already outselling them the last couple months, and at their current rate of sales they'll sell less than 360 total.
What and idiot
nope Xbox One has already sold 5 million + units to consumers.
VGChartz constantly overtracks Xbox, it's more likely around 4.7-4.8 million.
What and idiot
We can keep this going all year long Xbox One has already sold 5 million+ units to consumers.
that's a FAT nooooooo
I know my store's trend, and looking at other shops the trend in this region is similar. There is no way MSFT has sold anything more than 2/3 of what it has shipped (ad that's being kind).
What and idiot
Ya you like every other Pony out there… 5 million + sold to consumers.
PS4 is completely dominating the Xbox. Not that it's surprising, but I didn't quite expect literally double.
Soul Less
Proof?? MS said shipped.,…they are not flying off shelves.
I love how you completely fudged your user-name. :)
nah, lay off that coolaid..
I know myself, as a retailer, have not ordered any more since Day one shipment….as even those took me 4 months to sell…. ps4's still having a challenge meeting demand.
They even had to stop making the xb1 because all the stores were full of them .
Kevin Mole
tell us something we don't know and after last nights gamescon it is game over for Microsoft the announcement of silent hill was so awesome and all the other exclusives sony had it was there best ever showing at any event what with no mans sky, wild, silent hill and so many others the ps4 is going the same way as the ps2 it will sell millions and millions well done sony last night it was brilliant.
after yesterdays gamescom am buying a PS4
Buying the expensive fake next-gen consoles to play old games re-compiled with updated 3D engines and sold at a premium price… so smart… Some people surely enjoy to be sheep being ripped off…
Expensive for who? Get a job ya bum then you could afford one or two. Imo PS3,4 and Wii U is best of everything.
More childish babbling. And I bet you aren't older than 14 at best…
What does age have to do with anything?I'm not rich but do have a full time job and buying a new console or two every seven years isnt what i consider to be expensive.
And what the fuck are you17? If you are older you should be ashamed.
Charles Frankie Christiansen
You do realize 'XBone' means they are sticking it in your ass correct? MS doesn't care about the customers all they want is you last dime in your wallet… they force everything down your throats and you all deep throat like CHAMPS!!!! Enjoy buying adapters for every accessory they have. This is why Sony is running away with sales! everything comes the way it should and they don't force stupid policies like XBone did in the beginning like DRM, and Internet required and whatever else the retards upstairs at MS decided to try and push through. The only thing MS is good at this generation is BACKTRACKING!!!! #PS4FTW bitches!
I agree to this and is the reason I returned to PC gaming. It is utter bullshit I cannot play old games with better visuals, instead I have to rebuy whatever gets republished. The solution? Keep tucking consoles under the TV!? Fuck that. I have a custom made arcade stick from B15 which was $450 and I will not be able to use it on new consoles so what to do? Buy the next great fighting game for PC to play on Ultra High, AA@16, free online etc. Game not available on PC? Too bad for short sighted publishers, I'll play something else (from my library of untouched games).
I have a 300+ steam library ready to be played which will only get better visuals as I upgrade, can be played with my good ol' 360 controllers (now I got PS4 controllers), can play a LOT of them of my Macbook Pro (portability with visuals better than PSV/3DS) not mentioning it paid by itself by doing some basic HTML and graphic design.
The only people I (kind of) support is Nintendo in a very very limited and only because I have kids.
Replace "keep tucking consoles" with "keep buying psu's, gcx cards, cpu's, mobos, more ram, new ram, os lcenses etc."
And then expect to watch that budget for software shrink..
So why are you even here? Go to a pc page and compare cyber peens there.
if a PS4 is expensive, then you really shouldn't be spending your time using one as you clearly have other issues.
What silly pathetic childish babbling there…
IVlr Popo
i get your point, i dont like the way the next gen is going, in fact i dont like the way gaiming is going since 2008… i decided to stick pc only this gen becouse of this, but you still are being a bit to much agresive and one sided with your opinions. (sorry for my grammar english is not my first language)
I actually thought that Sony's Gamescon event was very weak. MS won that one with dirty tricks such as the corrupt bride to grab Tomb Raider away from its fan base. Scandalous greed and betrayal from the devs. Only Far Cry 4 stood out on Sony's side that was worth buying.
Based on Gamescon I would not buy the PS4. Thankfully Gamescon was only a partial picture. The PS4 is an awesome console with huge potential, there are some great games on it right now and many coming within the next 12 months that were not even mention at Gamescon.
PS4 has great exclusives but it also does the 3rd party multi plats superior quality to the XB1. Right now I'm playing Watch Dogs and The Last Of Us Remastered, my next game will Metro Redux. Then it will be GTV remastered, Assassin's Creed Unity and Far Cry 4.
Yet I own both, but play my Xbox One more.
spam won't make it come true
LOL from the guy posting all over every thread. LOL
far from true, I haven't posted a thing on the thread about Samsung's Galaxy Alpha….
LOL you are entertaining, I'll give you that.
I like to think of it as "edutainment"… we can have fun AND learn!
Lol to the bots who wasted 500 on a dead cable box that plays crappy versions of games
Sounds like you are justifying your limited features on your 1 system. I get the best of both.
So do i, from Sony and Nintendo. What on the X1 is so good that i need 2 systems that play the same things. Except one of them does it better now and alot better in the future when the devs start really using the 4s power?
There is so much added function. And don't get me wrong I don't regret my PS4 and will not sell it. I'd keep it for Uncharted alone. The smartglass app is awesome and something PS has to emulate. The snapping of apps is awesome. Saying"xbox record that" to record a clip seamlessly. Then the video saves in the cloud, unlike the videos I'm constantly having to delete on ps4 to make room. I can turn on my Xbox One, TV, DVR, and Surround receiver by just saying Xbox on. Then i can control them with voice or the remote integrated into smart glass. I'm always online when I'm watching TV, so friends can send game invites. I can accept, snap tv to he side and play and watch tv at the same time.
Oranji Juusu
Well then you've proved your opinion of console quality and experience is pretty worthless.
Gamer tag : flyin11
PSN ID : flyinb11
For me it's the added things along with gaming. The use of smartglass and snap features. If I'm watching TV I'm still connected for game invites. With Smartglass i get push messages from my Xbox friends.
Let me be clear, i want Sony to make updates to give me this same experience. The PS phone app is lacking and all that i can really do is play games. And imo I don't see any difference in the visual quality of these games on my 60 INCH 3DTV from 13 feet across the room. I don't regret my PS4 purchase for exclusives, but my X1 had me wanting and knowing that more is possible.
Edit. Another thing that unfortunately ps4 won't be able to do and zx1 can't do without kinect, is I say Xbox, on and it turns on my X1, my TV, and my Receiver. I can then control them all from my smartglass app or voice. It changes your lifestyle.
Well you wont be playing Bloodborne on it!
I won't be playing Bloodborne on any system. Not my kind of game.
Thats a shame because Demon and Dark Souls are phenomenal games. Then again almost everyone ive talked to that dont like them usually cant make it very far. Its not a fps where mindless running and gunning works.
Just not my style or interest. I suck at shooters. More into sports, uncharted types, and some platformers.
If you like platformers you should have gotten a Wii U over the x1
I'll get a WiiU eventually. MK8 is the first thing to make me think of getting it. I didn't play my Wii at all, so I'm holding off for a great deal. The game pad doesn't interest me much either. I'll definitely get one though.
People who say they own both but play xbone more….dont own both.
Gamer tag: flyin11
PSN ID : flyinb11
Nice try. Those who say we don't exist only own PS4.
Why would i waste money on a system that will get 99% of the same games as the other but at a better quality. The PS3/4 and Wii U offer a better variety of multi plats and exclusives imo. Xbox1 is just a weaker version of a PS4 with about 10 exclusives i wouldnt buy anyway.
You'd be surprised how much you can do with it. To each their own. I love things about it that i didn't know i wanted.
I get multiplat on x1 and exclusives ps4. If I plan to use remote play I buy for both.
Why would you pay money for an inferior copy of a game that can be had on the PS4? Now whos justifying owning the x1?
I can see no difference between the 2. I have a 60 inch 3DTV and sit 12 to 15 feet away. Some games i buy on both for the remote play on occasion. I assure you that you can not see the difference between 1080p and 900p when playing. I did get tomb raider for ps4, because i thought it had neat use of the light bar.
psssst, Sebastian, ps3 and 360 did not tie, unless the tie was for number of units shipped. When you look at the actual peak install base, online population, and hardware failure rate they all coincide with a sold-through figure of roughly ~35 million units globally.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk/ Sebastian Anthony
So they both have an installed base of around 35 million? (A tie). Or does one of them have much less than 35 million?
nah, saying the install base for the xbox 360 was about 35 million at peak ( and dropping). While XBOX Live had a peak population above that (roughly 5 million consoles were for offline users, the remainder of their account population came from Live for windows). The ps3 install base was roughly 76 million by the time the ps4 was announced (and rising, due to better failure rates, region free coding and multivoltage, and regional marketing expansion).
The overall PS population has exploded since E3 2013, a good portion of which were likely 360 owners.
Both have posted figures to their wiki pages of sold-in or shipped (which should be fairly close to each other, with the exceptions of logistics concerning failures under warranty).
http://www.mrseb.co.uk/ Sebastian Anthony
Ah, I see. Interesting. Thanks for commenting :)
Mirimon regularly makes things up and pretends his opinions and speculation are facts. Be careful.
http://www.mrseb.co.uk/ Sebastian Anthony
Aye! Obviously, if someone has a counterpoint, they should comment!
sorry, I didn't invent math, or science, or public knowledge or the reports from companies like squaretrade….
Maybe not, but whoever did invent those things was obviously a Sony fanboy.
obviously.. damn those sony guys with their facts.. pfft, FIKSHUN4LYF !!
Dont forget the red ring people buying multiple 360s.
Actually, +3 since that was the quantity on X360s I had to buy…
that's already part of the calculations, the only issue is the variable failure rates as the system eventually lowered it via hardware revisions over the years (7 different systems in total)…
I went through 2 360's in that console's life cycle, and my second one died 18 months before the new gen shipped, so I could have actually had 3 were I dumb enough.
I went through 2 ps3's and 2 360's. I hardly even played my PS3. Mostly used it for 3D Bluray. The fact that both couldn't make it is ridiculous.
IF that is a fact, I suspect user error…
Yes, I used it. LOL apparently last gen we were just supposed to look at the shell of these systems without hooking them up. YLOD and RROD. What division of Sony do you work for?
the one that warns you not to put your computing components inside an entertainment cabinet, or to not wrap them up in black mink blankets and set them in the sun near the window while using them…
LOL or upright with air flow all around it. LOL
sucks.. weird how my fatboy PS3 is still on right now.. running since launch….
You should see this PS2 I took on deployments, you couldn't recognize it as a ps2, took an ak round and some shrapnel, STILL PLAYS…..
We know the 360 had issues, but this YLoD was rare, and easily fixed at home. The RRoD, made my store a ton of cash…
Yeah it was a launch fat as well. I had to pay extra to get the same model replaced. I wanted to keep the backwards compatability.
jim moore2
It's not as rare as you make it out to be. While not on par with the RROD problems, the YLOD was real and affected units after many years of operation, compared to the RROD which usually struck much earlier. I know several YLODs personally, and I don't have that big of a friends list.
The problem was that the thermal paste was poor quality and dried out after a few years. Then a few more years of (extra) hot then cold cycling combined with the non-lead based solder used these days (blame RoHS), and the solder starts to crack prior to the end of the product life cycle. If you never turn the unit off, you will not likely get the YLOD. Low duty cycle units also do not get it. But people that play the old fat ones a lot and turn it off each time they are done have a much higher risk. Not all units, but quite a few.
You are correct that it is "somewhat" easy to "fix" at home, but reflowing never lasts. The easiest thing to do at home, if you knew to do it, was changing the paste before you ever got a YLOD, and then you were much more likely to never see an issue at all. But once you got it, to permanently fix it, you generally needed to take it to a shop with the equipment to reball it.
It was rare, while my ship did repair several, they didnt clutter my benches as the 360 did. It was also a simple fix that moderate pc users could self resolve, not a money maker for me really. That models failure to life cycle was below 15%, still magnitudes below the 360.
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man but the fat one rules, i bought one to install linux just for the fun of it, i use it as an emulator, and fuck, i don't regret what i paid for it, feels better than emulating on a PC, is fking amazing, it also acts as a media server too, and some other tasks i also use on it as a FTP server
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i was about to ask you the same but on microsoft, anyway 2 months old thread so nvm, i like the way you pretend to own both systems everytime to make believe your words are fact tho. Now about failure rates, just look on any tech site thats not paid by MS or Sony, MS failed like a slut looking for clients in a church. Also if you play on your xboxes more than on your ps consoles, is just a personal choice and has nothing to do with console's quality.
No need to pretend.
PSN is flyinb11
X live is flyin11
I liked infamous and Last of Us, but after a week beating them I have been left playing my X1. If you want to play look me up. Almost no one on my psn list is ever online. I play some MLB too. I've mostly been playing NBA2K15 and Forza Horizon 2 lately.
Look me up and check my trophies. You will see that I probably own more games than you. My hdd is full. Would like external support.
http://whocares.com Multiplatformgamerx
you can actually change the hdd, and unless you have PS+ since release, i doubt you have way more games than me, or a number that is relevantly bigger, assuming you actually have that many and you buy games as i do (that you actualy like of course, hyronic since you said you don't use your ps3, but you buy games for it, fuck logic) ;) . i'll use my sister's account to see if that user you said is actually you, if it ever exist, so try to respond if that happens, then we talk shit, k? k
Yeah and it's limited to 2tb and I lose the initial hdd. I've mostly moved on to ps4 and x1, but have had ps plus since launch. My only point being I'm not pretending. For some reason fanboys like you get all bent out of shape over eeveryone not loving what you love. I can respond from my ps3, ps4 or vita. I'm just saying I've had both my x360 and ps3 crap out on me. And eeveryone I know with launch systems of either are dead too.
http://whocares.com Multiplatformgamerx
i'm just a fan of what is good, if xbox 1 was better than the ps4 then i would be fan of it, but no, still i'm just pointing on you contradictions more than defending anything, and i can continue forever, since every and each of your posts contains at least 1 contradiction, being the one i'm replying here, that
You call me a fanboy, when you are clearly one as well, reason why we are here, i don't see the bad side of being a fan, it is retarded to put that as an argument to say "your comment is invalid", the only thing that can be bad about a fanboy, is when you have a BLIND fanboy, i go for the facts, i become a fan of things through facts, not because someone else says so. I had and loved the ps1 before it was known, i didn't like the ps2 that much, yet it was the best console at that time, i like the ps3 but as much as i like my wii, i enjoyed my xbox, but as i'm not a fan of shooters it didn't go well on me, and besides games, it doesn't offer the things i can do with a ps3, things that a PC can do as well, but not as good and easily done as it can be on the ps3. Now i didn't like the xbox one because they had the chance of being equal in terms of quality with the ps4, offering other things, making the choice between both consoles a matter of functions and not what you can display and how good (greatly noticeable on games like MGSV), MS went trying to copy what nintendo did with the wii (kinect) , in an effort to catch their players like it was an iphone, using gimmicks, lately MS has been trying to hit anything blindly, trying to monopolize the market as they intented with their OS that is slowly falling behind linux based OS, and forgot that consoles are just a thing where you put your GAMES, and the important thing is that you give a good enough hardware for it, for the price you are paying, not silly peripherals trying to "change gaming" in a way that true gamers don't even care, and the only thing xbox fans (the blind ones) they can do is call the ps4 the indiestation, forgeting that multiplatform games are on both consoles, and the quantity of exclusives launched on xbox isn't that relevant, neither those games are console sellers, Titan fall was as dissapointing as Destiny. NOW YOU HAVE MY OPINION OVER CONSOLES; NOW GO AND CALL ME FANBOY IF YOU WANT. If you are mad just cause i pointed what i said about your comments, purely based on the logic side, it's not my problem. Happy Gaming!
You started off accusing me of pretending to have all of the systems (except WiiU, yet). Just because I prefer my X1 over my PS4. You get your opinions and I get mine. Mine are based on time with owning both. I owned the PS1 at launch, n64, ps2 and Xbox (didn't prefer one over the other), game cube (not a fan), PS3 and X360 at launch, preferred 360, but still glad I had ps3, which is why I replaced it when it YLOD), PS4 (DAY ONE), and X1 (day one). I prefer my x1. I am one of the people that love kinect, that you call a gimmick . especially the voice controls. I prefer the snap functions and tv that I can use while gaming. Due to being on live while watching tv, more of my friends are available to play, unlike my silent psn friends list. We won't even get into the better online experience and single player exclusives that are sitting after beating them in a week . I still play titanfall while infamous hasn't been touched since the 1 week long play through. I'm currently playing Forza Horizon 2 and NBA2K15. Waiting for MCC. WHAT do I have coming to my PS4 that isn't on X1? We haven't had anything since a port of a year old Last of Us, that I bought and again, beat in a week. So yes, it's my opinion that x1 is currently my preferred system, while you just talk about the same rhetoric that sounds like a gamer that hasn't spent significant time with the X1.
You know things are that bad when your console is trailing behind the Wii U despite having multiplatform ports of games the Nintendo console will never ever get. That would explain the moneyhatting they did to Squeenix in order to get Tomb Raider as an exclusive title.
Wii U exclusives are better than anything on the xboxdone.
I wander if we will still hear the install base excuse for why games are going to be on xbox1 but not wii u.
don't wander too far…
lol.. English fail..
anyways.. it is likely that the lack of power under the hood, and how that power is more complicated to code for still, will be the reason several games avoid the wii-u (and why Nintendo thinks it should simply copy other games and paste in their staple Nintendo characters into them.. (littlebigplanet+yoshi? Skyrim+zelda?, etc etc.)…
also.. because MSFT is willing to throw hundreds of thousands of dollars per game to get it on their platform.
Grammar Nazis like you make the internet a little worse every day.
words have specific meanings for a reason… otherwise we could all scribble on a pad or babble incoherent noises at each other and still understand, but we can't. Also.. just a point of fact.. I have very little in common with a Nazi….
but…still SOME commonalities? ;)
yes.. two legs, two arms, two eyes.. Human… etc….
How disturbing.
I would be more concerned about the ones without legs…. how are they keeping up with me???!
Hey, we CAN babble incoherent noises at each other and still understand. Star Trek's many made up languages can confirm. The movie Idiocracy comes to mind where "utilize" meant to have sex. Every single word that's in this reply has been made up. Just sayin'.
We've come to the point where the educated are the problem? We are in trouble.
I think strength of the hardware makes a difference as well. The WiiU versions would have to be developed completely separate. While the Xbox One and PS4 can mostly be ported to one another. That's why many of the PS3 games didn't run as well as the 360 counterparts early in the last gen.
PS4 sales = 10 million
Xbone sales = 5 million
AMD console chip sales = 15 million
And AMD still fails to make any profits.
Xbone more like 4.5 sold.
PC sales are tons more than all next gen consoles combined (the Wii U have a 550 MHz AMD Radeon "Latte" GPU). If any consoles are pocket change for AMD.
PC sales. Not gaming PC sales.
in 2013 amd and nvidia has sold 65 000 000 units of discrete gpu for both laptops and PC. Lets say 40 000 000 was sold on PC market. 80% of those cards are in home pc media players and business PC's. maybe, just maybe 20% of rest went to gamers. Where majority bought the low end cards, some medium level cards. Just a small margin bought the cards of class 7870 or faster.
according to steam, 48% PC gamers still have 2 core CPU's. 55% of gamers have graphic with 1gb vram or less. Only 38% have full HD resolution (and only 4% have higher, usually 1920×1200). Almost 50% have 4gb ram or less.
If you add to this that Steam have around 80 milions of registered users then you realise that PC sells well due to corporations mostly, and gamers PC sells on much lower scale. And I would argue if solid gaming PC with graphic on par with 780/r9280 have higher sale numbers than ps4.
http://whocares.com Multiplatformgamerx
fk man i'll copy pasta this
http://www.facebook.com/timJ.collins Timothy Collins
"Way back in 2008, the Xbox 360 beat the PS3 to selling 10 million units in the US. Filled with celebratory hubris, then-Microsoft devices chief Don Mattrick said the following fateful words: "History has shown us that the first company to reach 10 million in console sales wins the generation battle." It was an odd thing to say at the time, and the Xbox 360 certainly didn't go on to win the war (it was a tie), but it's certainly an amusing quote that every PS4 fan should keep in reserve."
Yes, I think that is a valid quote to keep in reserve for PS4 fans. I think another valid quote to keep in reserve is this article calling that an "odd thing to say" as well… You can't have it both ways – either the quote about sales is valid or it is not. This article tries to have it both ways.
PS3 never caught up to the 360 in the USA, it's still outsold by about 15.5 million.
XB1 doesn't have the same advantages PS3 did to catch up in global sales. It's a weak brand outside US and UK and it can't even take those markets.
http://www.facebook.com/timJ.collins Timothy Collins
That may be. But the part I quoted is still trying to do something incorrect : Saying that a quote is both incorrect but something to repeat as valid this time.
I think it's less about making something seem valid, and more about runbing salt in their wounds..
http://www.facebook.com/timJ.collins Timothy Collins
Well, in all honesty the "Rubbing it in" thing has to provide some happiness for Sony. But that still doesn't make a paragraph that starts out saying it is invalid and even turned out to be false and then trying to say it's useful to reuse…
I thought the same thing. Use he quote and immediately disprove the quote.
except we have never seen sold-through figures for the xbox 360.. they only ever stated "sold" which we all know could be anything….
Those USA numbers are direct from NPD data as of June 2014.
PS3 25.9m
360 41.5m
XB1 2.9m
PS4 3.6m
I like NPD's numbers, their estimates are reasonable. We (NPD included) haven't got number from MSFT let alone being detailed. That is the issue I have with them. Even the minutes I get a hold of have it redacted.
As a business, I personally would hate to share my financials. I'm surprised that Sony is so open with them. Makes me question them to a degree as they are clearly after shareholders.
they've been extremely transparent since the 40's…. and it usually does them good (except for when certain companies reverse engineer some tech then crank out knockoffs later for 1/10 the price…..). They are a part of many of the developments in Media, R&D and boards. Keeping the doors closed would be an issue for many. I understand MSFT fluffing figures and twisting words about, if the customer saw what they were really doing MSFT would have more issues on its hands than the ever failing xbox brand.
NPD data is actually supposed to be private, but leaks out anyway because video games.
jim moore2
It was "odd" because it was an attempt at creating a new axiom out of thin air. A lot of people try to create the next "Moore's Law" especially when their own company benefits from it. It was also odd because that was pretty early in the generation and they had a year head start. It would be like the person in lane 8 stating the person in the lead at the first turn of an 800m race wins the race (regardless of staggered start). There was no heretofore industry axiom regarding the first to ten million sales.
This article isn't attempting to have it both ways. It's not falling back on some mystic statement from Mattrick and saying Sony has won, let's pack up shop. It's comparing the two sales figures (what is known).
See: "What this means for the Xbox One, though, is unclear."
B.S! – Anyone been to GameStop or Walmart lately, I have relatives working their. – They're taking in PS4 returns just as fast as they can sell them, yet you won't see any returned XBOX ones. The used PS4s are stacked next to the registers & they are then told to re-sell them at discounted/used prices based on condition & count the used PS4 $ales as a full PS4 $ale for PS4 instead of a Resale/Rebox/used. Soooooooo, XBOX & PS4 sales are actually around about the same 5Million. A TIE!
You have a wild imagination.
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha. You fucktard, shut up. Not hard to believe your relatives work at Walmart though
What an Xboxfanboy wouldn't do to make himself feel better?
No, seriously, this is a real question.
Fuck Africa
That's the stuff sir…if all else fails a total disregard for facts will see us through.
Holy shit… 50% return rate, returns resold w/o Sony, knowledge of them counting as new sales, stacks next to cash registers… this guy went full retard
Charles Frankie Christiansen
possible reasons for your post:
a. genetics
b. bad water
c. poor education system
d. trolling
e. all of the above
You forgot paintchips!
ah.. yup.. forgot those paintchips/toys
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Friggin awesome
You have to sell an XBox One before someone can return it.
You know just because what you said is anecdotal evidence, doesn't mean it can't be proved wrong. Go ahead and give us the numbers to the Gamestop and Walmart in your area. We could then easily and immediately call and see if this is true. :D
Soul Less
jim moore2
I've never seen an open box "discounted PS4″ at any store, or any sitting in the return section, and I've been perusing any electronic section any time I'm in a Walmart/Target/Gamestop.
And what you are saying about the counting sales would be illegal. Ever heard the term "cooking the books", as in Enron et al? To cook up sales that didn't happen and defraud shareholders of money is something people go to jail for. If you really believe this is happening, you should be blowing a whistle.
The lies the fanboys stoop to is hilarious.
I work at a large distribution warehouse for a department store. There are tons of X1s sitting in storage. PS4 move out within a week. The xbones are gathering dust.
after xbox dropped a 1TB xbox yesterday for the same money i paid for the now useless kinect version…..MS can piss off am done i will not buy any games for that POS system from a POS company…..i hope the PS4 trounces you so bad that after christmas 3rd party developers will be walking sideways away from you and your inferior POS…..
from a pissed off former xbox fan
forza is that you? what the hell happened to you?
I own both and use my Xbox One far more than my PS4.
foot stools, door stops, and booster seats are not legitimate uses for an xb1… stop trying to fluff it up.
Wow. Fanboys make me laugh.
you must think you are really funny then…
Fuck Africa
haha what garbage
Cool another one of those MS fanboys claiming to own a PS4.
Because I do.
Gamer tag: flyin11
PSN ID: flyinb11
While you hide behind guest. Some of us don't have to justify getting just the one you are stuck with.
http://whocares.com Multiplatformgamerx
PSN pffhahahaha
you can make a PSN without having a console, genious
I bet the xbots are still like but it can win it has lower spec's it can win
Good. This will teach these A-Holes in MS a lesson.
Well done to Sony, they did a great job marketing the new machine, apart from in Japan where it is tanking due to lack of Japanese friendly software (or any software!)
No mention of the Wii U in the article which is strange as it has probably surpassed the 7 million sold mark. It's the secret that everyone is in on: Wii U has more owners and better games than the XBox1. When it drops below the £200 mark, sales will take off, it won't catch the PS4 now, but I think in the long term it'll leave Xbox1 a distant third.
it's not tanking due to lack of software in JP… JP sales never do well, as they hold on to systems.. Heck, not that long ago they FINALLY stopped producing the PS2, which is still being sold and developed for…..since the ps2, most following platforms don't really move there.
and xbox.. all of the xbox platforms to date have taken 3rd of the big 3…
If that was the case, nobody would be buying the 3DS there as they were still playing their DS. Or Wii U as they were still playing Wii.
oh, you can play the 3ds lineup on a DS?.. yeah……
PS3 is still going strong in Japan with new Japanese games constantly. PS3+PS4 numbers are actually very good.
Sony's future is the PS4, the PS3 may only have a year or two as a profitable platform.
When the PS3 eventually dies, they will need a strong user base in all regions for the PS4, yes it's doing well in other area's, but Japan is still a very important market, not to mention the home of some great developers, and Sony's home market. The reason PS4 is struggling in Japan is the Japanese buy a console on the strength of the software, in the west as a general rule people buy the brand, the specs, the hype, and then the software.
PS4 has a more western oriented library of games at the moment, that's why it's selling better outside of Japan, not "hype".
PS3 devs will eventually move to PS4 and PS4 sales will increase.
Sony is heavily featured on Famitsu's most wanted games list.
The entire console market is shrinking in Japan, PS3, PS4, and Wii U are all selling about the same with 2-3k difference each week.
The way I read this weeks figures is PS3 and PS4 figures combined matched the Wii U. What happens when the PS3 dies? Yes, the market is shrinking there, but the die hards are buying the Wii U now, where does that leave Sony when it will take at least 6 more months for them to have a compelling line up for Japan?
ps2 is still getting games made for it.. the PS3 has a long life still (not as long as ps2, simply because of code difficulty, but still LONG).. I see no issue here.
How interesting. This article isn't flooded by a ton of Xbox supporters. Once again, Microsoft money-hats another exclusive in Tomb Raider. Pretty pathetic. Microsoft and SE only pissed off a ton of loyal fans while attempting to get the very few customers willing to buy a console for a 3rd party title. That's only a timed exclusive. Not only that, Tomb Raider sold better on Sony consoles than any other. Makes little sense to risk your fans across multiple platforms for money now. It tarnishes the brand and your fans perception of you as a Publisher/Developer. It also strengthens the notion that Microsoft is only paying it's way through these console generations. Like the rich kid who tries to buy your friendship. Tomb Raider could have made one hell of a comeback, not nearly so now. I know I won't be purchasing. I was going to get the Tomb Raider Definitive Remaster as well, but that's no longer happening. I'm sure I'm not alone. The 10 million sold-through to customers is not really a big surprise. Sony has the best gaming ecosystem. Affordable PS4, PS Vita connectivity with remote play, PS Vita T.V., Project Morpheus, PS Now, PS+ across 3 separate systems and unrivaled 1st party development teams.
The Wii took off as well but years in it became stagnant. Sony don't have the money Microsoft can throw at the Xbox division. All Sony have is sales numbers. Do they even have AAA titles? You see Sony fanbois crying about Tomb raider on ALL tech sites.
Charles Frankie Christiansen
Are you saying the Wii or Wii U is even comparable to a PS4 or XBone? Lol you must be the 35 year old virgin who still lives in his moms basement who can't wait for another Mario or Sonic sequel…. I remember my first beer…. Maybe one day you'll grow up and join the big boys on the 4 and see what real graphics look like compared to every game looking like a bad dragon ball z episode….
The Wii stomped the living shiat out of Xbox360 and PS3 when launched, but what happened? Current consoles haven't been out a farking year, but PS4 fans want to make it seem like PS4 is winning. You guys are already whining about TR
What happened? People realized their armflapping, child bashing, tv breaking controllers were silly. The "customer" grew out of their diapers and wanted something more realistic and attractive to their eyes now that they reached visual acuity.
If anybody is making it "seem" (btw, it's a reality, not some ficade) it would be MSFT…. nobody has made playstation look as good as MSFT has…..
Charles Frankie Christiansen
It only sold that well because it was the cheapest system compared to $500 for the 360 and $600 for the ps3 lol like I said you can't compare a Wii to a ps3 or Xbox 360 especially when talking about graphics, online play, and overall gameplay. Your ignorant if you think it is even in the same ball park! And who cares about TR I never liked any game that had a female as the main character. Personally I think that's why final fantasy series has fallen off…
Charles Frankie Christiansen
And btw Xbox had a full year advantage on the ps3 and ps3 still caught up to Xbox and if we ps4 users are whining about something like a game its certainly better than whining about losing out on sales….. Not our fault you backed the wrong horse!
Alex Whitfield
Your right.
What did sony or microshaft have to compare?
Fan bases like no one has ever seen?
Creativity and originality?
Balls to be themselves and not need to be like what others think they should?
I have a deep respect for Nintendo and the honor their company lives by.
Plus they originated most in which makes gaming, well gaming.
Graphics do not make for a good game.
Alex Whitfield
How does enjoying a game and having fun retain to "maturity"?
Your connection isn't just biased but completely redundant, untrue as well.
Graphics teasers of the Project X for Wii U look amazing and so to does Mario Kart.
If enjoying your game makes you immature well than either you don't really enjoy your games or your immature yourself.
Also a beer? Really?
What are you a Neanderthal?
Have we as a species not moved on from right of passage crap?
Also a "beer" in my opinion makes you immature.
If a beer is what you need to feel like a grown up then you must not have been one to begin with.
Maturity makes one an adult not age nor does a "beer".
I will say Mirimon is certainly not mature as well, but not because he plays mario.
I will also say that if those things make you believe yourself an adult than you yourself have yet to grow up.
Charles Frankie Christiansen
Says the guy who thinks Nintendo is the best gaming system of all time…. Seriously you want to discuss maturity and this is a video game conversation…. Haha everyone here is immature to an extent the difference is we all know it and your still in denial…. Atleast we can live with what we are lol get a life you bum! Btw its 2014 not 1986 where Mario is still relevant. Yea sure its an original and a classic and I'm sure you follow pokemon on Twitter as well but lets be honest here Nintendo is a PG rated company that's only around still because of kids…. I'm not hating on Nintendo I'm just saying its meant for my daughter and us grown ups graduated to PlayStation back in 1994. History lesson for you too…. Uh PlayStation left Nintendo because they didn't want to abandon the cartridges….. So Nintendo wouldn't be shit without Sony to begin with! Now if you'll excuse me…. I have a beer to drink!
Alex Whitfield
If enjoying life connects you to immaturity then you fail to understand life itself.
Be alive but live at once.
Have joy in your life but don't become redundant with it.
Also I love how you lied and did a uturn.
"Grow up" <—– statement 1
"We are all immature" <—– statement 2
Nice try though honestly.
er…. titles is just one, of many reasons, why the PS4 is selling. The difference here also is that those "sales" you are talking about are to the consumer.. not the retailer, which is important. If it were only sales to retailers I wouldn't pay it much mind, but sales to the end user, creating the install base… VERY important.
all they have are sales… and nearly twice as many titles than xb1 since launch, with EVERY multiplat looking and performing better on it…..
as for "Fall of the Tomb Raider", it's not a sony fanboy issue, it's an issue for all gamers. It's the sequel to a multiplat title that was on EVERY platform…. now bribed to not only be on only one platform, but the One platform with the smallest install base, thus meaning it couldn't sell well even if every user got a copy..
a disgrace, and a huge finger to ALL of the fans on ALL of the platforms who enjoy that IP series……
Alex Whitfield
I was talking of Jesus's legal records where he was placed on trial and nailed to a tree (bible says cross but his legal records say a tree) how that became mythical monsters is beyond me.
I was talking of literal history.
Not story book weirdness.
oh? I suppose these "records" are stamped and sealed by a public notary right??
brb, making "legal records"
Alex Whitfield
So tge whole of history minus that in which of recent history which was recorded through photography etc is falsified with your logic.
All pre date advanced technology histoty is in a purely "written state" maybe the great wall of china wasn't against mongols who knows because we lack any proper evidence beyond writing.
Your flawed in that.
Jesus finds his way in Roman Jew and numerous Arabic timelines I doubt they all thought the same "lie" at the same time on the matter.
It goes beyond that though.
I don't get how one gets up and thinks that our perfect chance of circumstance planet is just "chance" and I guess you feel there is nothing greater.
A snowflakes perfect complexity, the mystery of life, but a few things that should make one at the least ponder.
What else explains us?
The greatest minds of all time supported God not the the perceived opposite.
Have you ever heard of how physics was used to prove an entity of God?
Noahs ark was found.
Events the Bible predicted before their coming came true.
Many biblical figures show up not only in the bible but in history as well.
It isn't some farse in the wind maybe we don't have it all the correct, but then again when do we ever get % 100 right?
But something is clearly there and to have faith in something good vs disbelief we have anything better.
Which sounds better to you? I mean honestly?
All of which are NEW, biased, and have good reason to put those STORIES in their books. Just atop already. We can look back through everything to the beginning of life on the planet, but this one miracle dude just comes and goes, and all people made and kept were stories???
Pffft, get to the topic of this thread or leave and go sing some hymns with lunatics.
Alex Whitfield
So someone choosing to have faith in peace and happiness is a lunatic?
I fear for the world with such a extreme and grim outlook as this.
So honestly what do you believe?
That we live die and fall off to obscurity?
Nothing great exists existed nor will ever exist?
You really wish to use what little time you have to ponder of anything greater but rather put prejudice against those who do?
I with all sincerity feel for you.
What does explain life to you anyways?
Yes, faith itself is lunacy, we create all that is good and bad in this world, nothing else, it is all of our own doing. Now gtfo with your religious babble, this is not the place for it.
PS4 will have as many or more AAA games as PS3. Sony still has a huge number of 1st party studios working on AAA PS4 games. The games division is making a profit, is in a net profit, and is well funded.
The fact is Xbox is a multi-billion net loss and Xbox One is losing MS money. All you are doing is spreading fanboy LIES, hate, and FUD about Sony in an article about Xbox.
PS4 will continue to be hugely successful, no matter how many lies you spread about Sony in Xbox articles. 3rd parties will continue shifting to multiplatform (Titanfall 2, Ryse 2, Dead Rising 4, etc.) instead of staying Xbox exclusive.
PS4 has many great AAA games that gamers love. That's why it's 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony's large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.
1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.
PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).
PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies.
PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there's no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.
PS4 AAA games from July-Dec 2014: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Guilty Gear Xrd Sign, Singstar, Sniper Elite III, Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition, Madden NFL 15, Metro: Redux, Destiny, NHL 15, FIFA 15, Alien: Isolation, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, Grand Theft Auto V, NBA 2K15, NBA Live 15, Just Dance 2015, The Evil Within, Assassin's Creed Unity, WWE 2K15, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, The Crew, Far Cry 4, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow Warrior, Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments, LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham, The Legend of Korra, Project Cars, Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition, etc. Plus a truckload of indies.
PS4 indie games rated 75 or higher on Metacritic right now: flower, Fez, Guacamelee, Towerfall, The Swapper, Sound Shapes, Resogun, Oddworld, Trine 2, Rogue Legacy, Transistor, Pinball Arcade, Sportsfriends, Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate, Steamworld Dig, Zen Pinball 2, Child of Light, Trials Fusion, 1001 Spikes, Valiant Hearts, Don't Starve, Outlast, Strider, Hohokum
Well reviewed PS4 games not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don't Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, KZ Shadowfall, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Yakuza Isshin and other Japanese games, Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, etc.
Sony showed the following games at Gamescom, several of which were brand new reveals.
The Tomorrow Children
The Vanishing Of Ethan Carther
Dreamfall Chapters
Nom Nam Galaxy
Pix & Cat
Papers Please
Space Brawl
Qube 2
FarCry 4
Shadow Of Mordor
P.T (aka new Silent Hill game)
Until dawn
Tearaway Unfolded
Snow (PS4)
Runemaster (PS4)
What kinda cheese do you want? I have Cheddar and American. Don't forget Sony is the one who dumped Square Enix.
stock, it sold off squenix stock.. it didn't drop support for them. Sony actually bends over backwards to help ALL developers in need when coding for Sony's platforms, financially and personnel wise. I didn't see MSFT jump onto those stocks…
FYI… following MSFT's announcement of "exclusivity" (timed) for the new TR title, their (Square Enix) stock took hit and dropped.
So it's ok for Sony to give money, but not MS? Do you think Sony did it because they were just nice guys? No, they knew that it would create a relationship that kept exclusives on PS3. Both of these companies are businesses driven by money. There is no difference between the 2.
wait.. what? what are you talking about?..
nono.. MSFT goes to a game that is all but a done deal, and tosses millions at them to exclude the title… Sony loans companies in need of money to make a game, and does not legally bind them to keep it on any specific platforms…
one helps only themselves, the other helps the industry.
LOL you are so right. Sony is the Jesus of the business world. Hahahahaha you make me laugh. The result was the same. Money given, exclusives secured. But I'm sure it was pure coincidence.
except you missed the part where one demands an exclusivity contract, while the other was just glad to help out…..
and don't bring Jesus into this.. we are talking about real things here, not that fiction stuff…
Alex Whitfield
Jesus was kept in Roman historical recordings.
The smartest scientists in history didn't just believe in god but helped prove his existence.
Just saying.
er.. proving something was written is not the same as proving of an actual thing. By that logic "historical recordings" also prove the word really is flat, that titans, hydra, and pegasi were real, etc etc etc…
the only thing it shows is that MAN wrote something….nobody has proved of any such existence nor contrary. It's a pointless argument, man invents religion.. biggest troll ever made…
Oh… and American should never be called cheese…. gross. Don't matter how long it ages, it still won't have any flavor…
Theres no arguing with xbots. Remember they were dumb enough to buy the system even after MS shit all over them. They love it!
Lawrence Tian
Microsoft is gonna have to make some major sacrifices in order to win like a price drop to around $300 – $350 max price range.
Charles Frankie Christiansen
They are too greedy to do that lol
Lawrence Tian
I think they can bite the bullet. MS has the money clearly unlike Sony.
They should invest in taking a loss to get more Xbox One's into the hands of the consumers for a larger install base.
Microsoft share holders will love that. Let's lose more money on something we already don't like. Not foreseeing that happening
Lawrence Tian
true true true
Charles Frankie Christiansen
Sony is throwing their money where it needs to be like VR, PS Now, PS Plus, and all the future features that are coming. The things they are doing are what is attracting new player from other platforms. They know if they sell then the developers will follow. I'm willing to bet Titanfall 2 will be on PS4 because they know they cant miss out on the sales. Other Xbox exclusives will follow and decide to do the same.
What sucks is I could care less about titanfall. I thought it would be cool but I don't get into competitive multi player so with no coop or single player, I won't get it anyway
Charles Frankie Christiansen
I can care less about titanfall either to me it looks like cod mixed with mech warrior and both of those games are to repetitive for me to even be interested in… I'm just saying developers who made exclusives for the Xbox are going to see the sales gap and wonder why are they missing out when they can just cross platform the game and everyone be happy….
This… titanfall is a game that begs for a campaign, of any type.. who doesn't like stomping on cars, wrecking buildings, and stepping on the anys that come out….
It could be an amazing single player game. Give it some rpg elements and a longer campaign. Would be awesome. Too bad our beloved ps4 doesn't have the power of the cloud to run the game…….. I still get a kick out of that! Always makes me giggle
What is the reason MS has money? Then ask, does it make sense to sustain a failing console? For how long? How much more I will have to lose to make a profit? Will I ever make a profit out of this thing? So far they have not and while the 360 was the momentum MS had to delve into gaming big time, they just fucked it all up with the Xbone.
A decade of 360 goodwill and brand name destroyed in less than a year… Pretty bad stuff.
let's remember this is not Baldmer "We like a dog and we dont let go off things" this is Nadella "lets kill XboxTV, lets kill Surface Mini" with Stephen Elop now Vice President of Microsoft Devices & Services "lets kill the xbox and bing" at the helm of Xbox. All this in an interesting time in the video game history full of changes and disruptive technologies. MS wants money but I dont think is here…
you know the 360, their more accepted platform, cost them right? They are still paying for it to the tune of $2 billion annually in costs since 2007. Nadella is smart to axe the things that are not performing and get back to the core of the business.
Do you think Nadella could axe Xbox? or at least sell to retake core business? Xbox is pretty big but so are losses… If the Xbox flops this generation, could we be watching the last Xbox? It is no surprise this generation is quite different from all the other with mobile maturing pretty quickly, laptops able to play more graphic intensive games, PC's making quite a comeback, Steam machines, Japan with 30% gaming down… I mean the landscape has changed quite a bit and I feel consoles are just not seen as enthusiastically as they were before… What do you think?
The big name thrown around at the board meetings for the last 7 years for who would buy it is Samsung…
but the real question is, how would they really do it? Cannibalize it all and sell it piece-meal? Sell the platform, the brand name, and it's IP's all as one package and be done with it? sell the brand and hardware, but keep the software IP's to publish multiplat and recoupe some of those HUGE losses xbox has been putting on MSFT over the decade?
I think dropping it would be prudent, while keeping IP's as a publisher (or some "exclusivity for whoever purchased the brand name). I understand MSFT's desire to put windows and it's other more useful systems into every room in the world, I just don't see the xb1 as the device to fill that hole. Going back to the board and focusing on making it's core up to snuff again should be their focus IMO, bleed into places in that way for a while, then come back when they are ready to honestly compete.
Only Nintendo makes money on its consoles in the first year, generally.
which isn't hard to do.. it resisted dropping the archaic cartridge for too long, and got nudged into their niche fisher-price market they have now. Then the wii just takes the game cube and puts it into slot loading form… the wiiu is the wii, but smelly? idk… anyways.. a silly 1/2 tablet thingy…….and a decent attempt at copying the architecture of 7th gen xbox 360….
First year only? Are we taking in consideration of system redesigns like the red Wii?
Jonathan George Anaya
I think that 2014 will continue to be a great year for MS.
1. the X1 has DOUBLED the PS3 sales at this point in their respective lifespans. And, did everyone proclaim the PS3 dead?
2. MS showed off AAA game after Indie game that will be hitting the X1 for the remainder of this year. MS brought their A Game; Sony's conference was Stale in comparison. I agree with this accurate assessment:
3. People keep talking about Sony doubling MS numbers; but MS is Only in 13 countries! What happens if MS launches in China and sells 10 million there at launch? Do people just pretend that numbers don't matter? Or, do Ponies start bashing the Chinese?
you are lacking some very basic and well known information for your statements here..
and you also go to youtube for your news and "assessments"???????
is that you Czarlie???
Charles Frankie Christiansen
"1. the X1 has DOUBLED the PS3 sales at this point in their respective lifespans. And, did everyone proclaim the PS3 dead?"
That's not impressive, considering the PS3 launched a year after the Xbox360 and Wii. You may have a point if the PS3 and X360 launched at the same time, but they didn't.
"2. MS showed off AAA game after Indie game that will be hitting the X1 for the remainder of this year. MS brought their A Game; Sony's conference was Stale in comparison. I agree with this accurate assessment"
Completely subjective. Also not in agreement with the multitude of websites or comment sections discussing it.
"3. People keep talking about Sony doubling MS numbers; but MS is Only in 13 countries! What happens if MS launches in China and sells 10 million there at launch? Do people just pretend that numbers don't matter? Or, do Ponies start bashing the Chinese?"
You do realize that people can order a XboxOne or PS4 from any place and import it right? Do you honestly think that those in China had absolutely NO access to any consoles? Even with the ban? Completely untrue. Do Microsoft supporters pretend that they can't get consoles? Do they believe that Microsoft will miraculously sell millions of consoles in Japan? History says they won't.. What are Xbox supporters like yourself going to say when Microsoft's XboxOne doesn't sell as much as you are expressing they will after they launch in those territories?
Stop spreading fanboy lies, FUD, and hatred and get help.
XB1 doesn't have the same advantages PS3 did to catch up in global sales.
No it's not selling very well. XB1 is currently ahead of 360 time adjusted, but the last 3 months it's been selling less than 360 month-to-month. In other words, unless XB1 sales increase, it will fall under 360 time adjusted. 360 was supply constrained in its 1st year and XB1 is still struggling to stay ahead.
Xbox One needs a serious momentum boost to keep ahead of 360. Even Wii U has been outselling XB1 the last few months in global sales.
XB1 won't "become irrelevant" or lose 3rd party support, but it's in danger of ending up selling less than the 360 did and possibly less than the Wii U in total sales.
Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-10% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.
The 13 countries Xbox One already launched in account for 90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny.
September is going to be a mountain of crow for certain people constantly screaming about 72 vs 13 countries. PS4 will outsell Xbox globally in September, like every other month.
PS4 has many great AAA games that gamers love. That's why it's 9.3+ million in sales and growing. Sony's large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.
PSN is vastly improved and Sony is continually investing more into improving it.
PS4 has many great AAA games that gamers love. That's why it's 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony's large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.
1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.
PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).
PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies.
PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there's no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.
PS4 AAA games from July-Dec 2014: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Guilty Gear Xrd Sign, Singstar, Sniper Elite III, Diablo III: Ultimate Evil Edition, Madden NFL 15, Metro: Redux, Destiny, NHL 15, FIFA 15, Alien: Isolation, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor, Grand Theft Auto V, NBA 2K15, NBA Live 15, Just Dance 2015, The Evil Within, Assassin's Creed Unity, WWE 2K15, Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, The Crew, Far Cry 4, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow Warrior, Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments, LEGO Batman 3: Beyond Gotham, The Legend of Korra, Project Cars, Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition, etc. Plus a truckload of indies.
PS4 indie games rated 75 or higher on Metacritic right now: flower, Fez, Guacamelee, Towerfall, The Swapper, Sound Shapes, Resogun, Oddworld, Trine 2, Rogue Legacy, Transistor, Pinball Arcade, Sportsfriends, Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate, Steamworld Dig, Zen Pinball 2, Child of Light, Trials Fusion, 1001 Spikes, Valiant Hearts, Don't Starve, Outlast, Strider, Hohokum
Well reviewed PS4 games not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don't Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, KZ Shadowfall, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Yakuza Isshin and other Japanese games, Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, etc.
Sony showed the following games at Gamescom, several of which were brand new reveals.
The Tomorrow Children
The Vanishing Of Ethan Carther
Dreamfall Chapters
Nom Nam Galaxy
Pix & Cat
Papers Please
Space Brawl
Qube 2
FarCry 4
Shadow Of Mordor
P.T (aka new Silent Hill game)
Until Dawn
Tearaway Unfolded
For once, one of your really long post was beneficial to me. I can now look at all the AAA games I will be going poor over lol.
Glad to help.
if you take into account the ratio of sales to gaming population growth from last gen to this gen, it would show the xb1 selling at ~20% (rough estimate) of that.
Jonathan George Anaya
Time for me to LAUGH at you, Sir.
the PS3 had a GLOBAL launch. As in, sold in every country and still only sold 5 million in 2 years. The X1 is in 13 COUNTRIES and surprised the PS3 already. In 13 countries.
Plus, what "games" did the PS3 have coming out that saved it? Not Resistance. Not Fallout. Not Uncharted. Those titles came out much later in that consoles lifetime. MS has AAAs ready to go so soon for the X1.
MS cares about the Gamer; they've been Delivering Greatness from Day One ;)
Get out of the sun right now and seek medical aid, you are suffering from sun poisoning and are dilerious.
jim moore2
"MS cares about the Gamer"
Only gamers in 13 countries you mean…
" The X1 is in 13 COUNTRIES and surprised the PS3 already. In 13 countries."
"Surprised?" :-/ Since the Xbone performs on par with the PS3, I can see the confusion in comparing the current gen Xbox with the last gen PS. But no one else thinks there's any meaning to a Xbone PS3 sales comparison when PS4 is doubling up Xbone already.
It really is funny to hear the bots still clinging to the 13 country canard.
Fact #1, every country both are selling in, PS4 is beating Xbone. Including US where 360 won last gen.
Fact #2, Xbone is already in every country by virtue of exports. There are retailers in virtually every country in the world that has Xbone in stock on their website and local stores, labeled "Import". It takes a child 2 seconds of googling to find these things in countries that supposedly don't have any. Next time do your homework before you claim it's not available except in 13 countries.
Fact #3, these "countries" that PS4 is selling in that Xbone is not are impoverished nations, like Bolivia and Romania. PS4 isn't selling a whole lot in those places either. What makes you think if Xbone goes on sale "officially" that it's going to magically sell 5 million?
Fact #4, The longer MS avoids those other markets, the less relevant they will become as everyone and their friends will already have a PS4…who in Bolivia will want an Xbone when they will be the only one they know to have one?
Fact #5, over it's entire life (to this day), 360 has sold 70 million of it's total 83 million units into US, Europe, Japan. That leaves a whopping 13 million split among Canada, Australia, Brazil, and a couple other non-3rd world countries, and the rest of the countries of the world. Over 8+ years. So yeah, keep dreaming the delusion that the second MS starts selling in those other countries, they'll catch up quick, lol.
Only gamers in ONE country to be honest. All offers, NFL deals, better content. Gamers from other countries can go to hell…
You're kidding right? The PS3 didn't launch globally. It came much later in Europe!! Do you even know what you're talking about?
You are flat out wrong
lol Machinima thinks regurgitating E3 is better than announcing new games. I'd expect nothing better from a site that hires Andrea Rene and has an app deal with MS.
"What happens if MS launches in China and sells 10 million there at launch?"
Lay off the crack, Jonny.
"the X1 has DOUBLED the PS3 sales at this point in their respective lifespans. And, did everyone proclaim the PS3 dead?"
-Playstation 3 sold 6,088,532 units in it's first year
-Xbox 360 sold 5,930,609 units in it's first year
There is only 3 months left until the Xbox One is a year old. And its currently on 5 million consoles sold. It still has over 1 million units left to sell just to equal PS3 sales. And Microsoft have been shipping 1.1 million consoles every 3 months. So they are actually selling less than 1.1 million Xbox One consoles every 3 months.
So they really are on a ticking clock just to equal PS3 sales by the time November rolls around. In fact……even equaling 360 sales is no definite guarentee at the moment! The idea that they are doubling PS3 sales is utterly laughable!
"People keep talking about Sony doubling MS numbers; but MS is Only in 13 countries! What happens if MS launches in China and sells 10 million there at launch? Do people just pretend that numbers don't matter? Or, do Ponies start bashing the Chinese?"
Here we go again with the "13 countries" argument that has been debunked repeatedly.
USA and Europe both combined accounted for 88% of the Xbox 360s entire GLOBAL SUCCESS. 94% for the original Xbox and indeed 75% for the PS3 even.
Current estimates show around 80% of the PS4s current success come from USA and Europe. Those 50+ additional countries are doing very little for PS4. And this has been the case with virtually every single home console throughout history.
And as for China……no console has EVER been a huge seller there in the history of video gaming. The PS1 was avaliable there for almost 5 years prior to the console ban.
Playstation 1 is the second biggest selling home console of all time. Selling 104.25 million units globally.
38.94 million of those were sold in USA
36.91 million were sold in Europe
19.36 million were sold in Japan
The remaining 9.04 million were sold across the rest of the world. This figure INCLUDES China.
There is more chance of shell suits coming back into fashion than China suddenly becoming a market force for videogame consoles.
Good numbers.
People will still make games for xbox, because it's not as much work to port between consoles in this generation. XBox will have to throw more money at publishers to get exclusives. That's really all this all means.
As for hardware upgrade for xbox, whoever wrote that doesn't understand consoles. You'd outdate all older consoles if you created a newer higher spec one. You would lose any fans that bought the first generation, and in a bifurcated hardware market, no one would program to the higher specs, because that would mean fewer sales. It's a lose, lose decision.
Alex Whitfield
Actually it means more than that.
Sony won't need to work so hard to get great publishing deals and save money plus make money off of better sales and sales of the xbox thanks to the blu ray patent of theirs.
Plus ms now must spend larger portions of their cash just to get said publishing AND that now hard hit profits is taking peices out also for the as mentioned blu ray.
So microshaft is taking the financial hit I hope and pray will land them back on earth.
I don't think you understand what patents are, how they are used, and who controls, owns, and gets paid for blu-ray use…..regardless of your position, you have it all wrong about BD…
Alex Whitfield
How so?
Sony has the patents to cds dvds and blu-rays.
It is why competition over the years has had a harder time supplying this tech because of Sony.
Plus I am not the only one to have said this, I am certain you already knew of this.
The point of MS taking a much needed financial hit, so they may be grounded to reality once more still stands.
no.. just no.. Sony does not OWN CD's, DVD and/or BD…it does not work that way.
Lets take a look at BD disc (which itself, is also different from a BD player and the devices used to actually read and/or write BD discs.). Even at the very start, there were over 17 companies who "owned" BD .. the comprised the BDA…and of those companies, Panasonic actually owns more of the related patents than any of the others. SONY is not holding any people or companies back from using Blu-ray…
I don't care who told the story you seem to believe, but it was 100% fiction, and you apparently took in every word of it… It would help if you actually took a minute or two to research some things before living your entire life based on the stories and here-say of others…
as for MS… while the xbox brand has been costing them billions annually, and that's on top of lawsuits for killing people and burning their homes down with defective devices…. it has been costing little in the big picture of things. The most damaging it has been to MSFT is on the PR side of things, their perceived worth has dropped. But that is what they have to weigh and decide on.. to take a hit and continue pushing until we have our systems in the corner of every building in the world, or cut off the dead weight before the gangrene spreads.
Alex Whitfield
I said patent.
Read it with me
Now here is the thing places like pcgmag have written stuff on it sony makes about $3 per xb1 because of their PATENTS.
I said they owned patents not the whole god dang industry you fool.
Apple owns most the patents behind smartphones….does that mean they are the only ones making them?
You blew what I said out of proportion moving along now.
here.. from the one stop shop for licensing, back in 2009… (this is likely the program MSFT opted on when they decided to start making the xb1):
"The fees for the new product licenses are US$9.50 for a Blu-ray Disc™ player and US$14.00 for a Blu-ray Disc™ recorder. The per disc license fees for Blu-ray Disc™ will be US$0.11 for a read only disc, US$0.12 for a recordable disc and US$0.15 for a rewritable disc. As a result of the efficiencies obtained with the combined license offering, the royalty rates for Blu-ray Disc™ products are expected to be at least 40% lower than the current cumulative royalty rates for individual Blu-ray Disc™, DVD and CD format licenses."
that was 2009.. rates drop DRASTICALLY over time, on top of splitting those between some 18+ companies? An association in which Sony barely have 30% in?
Alex Whitfield
Other sources exist as well.
That's not a "source" anymore than the crap you keep mimicking here like some droll parrot. It lacks any actual data, just spitting out random nonsense. Wven if you account it as 30% ownership getting that much of the fees, even in 2009 that only amounts to barely $2.85… back in 2009!! The fees have gone down since then, and IP ownership has shiften often. Atm sony is lucky to see even $1 per bd player…
Next time you go looking for "sources", try the actual source.. and then compare to 3rd party analysts. Otherwise all you are doing spouting fictional nonsense.
Alex Whitfield
Let me point two things out.
You clearly don't know so why believe you?
You went from saying they would make mere pennies to they make a dollar off each one, your story is changing meaning you never actually knew at all.
I supplied a source and as I said pcgmag said this as well amongst others and as the source I sent provided an analyst's thoughts on it.
You provided only your words in a changing story.
You acted like I meant Sony owned the whole industry.
I showed you up on it.
You tryed claiming I said they hold it back from others.
I never actually said that even though they did hold it from Nintendo in the 90's.
I keep showing you up while you keep hunting for some false meaning to demonize that in which I have said.
Your performing mud slinging.
Make the enemy seem like a fool push your point of view and finish up with how the enemy was a falsified individual.
I know what your doing and your failing miserably at it.
We are done here.
Alex Whitfield
Yours did?
You provided 0 evidence at least I didn't do that.
Love how you chose to overlook my points on your mudslinging attempts.
Wxcept foe actually showing data.. I guess data has changed it's meaning in the last week right? Grow up, and get some eyepro on, you are slinging mus in your own eyes kid.
Alex Whitfield
Love it when one decides to assume details of some other individual they know nothing of.
Where is your data?
Hidden in the
Story a
Sony get no money
Story b
Sony get almost no money
Story c
Okay sony get some money.
You clearly know not in which you speak bye bye now.
TL;DR version: You are crying for no reason, Sony makes only $1.80 per BD drive manufactured. Public knowledge here—>http://www.blu-raydisc.com/en/index.aspx
and hgere http://www.one-blue.com/royalty-rates/
nail on the head.. only a kid would be throwing tantrums on the internet. You were given actual dta, and actual sources. you ignored it. It seems it wouldn't matter if your were told in person by the CEO of SCE himself, you would ignore it.
Today, as of right now.. Sony receives less than $1.80 per Blur-ray Drive manufactured. As a chair member of the founder's board, they also have an annual fee they themselves must pay to continue membership.
That said, for all the Xbox One consoles made thus far, Sony has gotten roughly $10 million dollars in royalties just for the consoles having been made, regardless of if those consoles sell to customers or not.
MSFT was approached and offered memberships to the BDA and dismissed them.
Your logic is absent, your argument made of dross and I have smote thee.
Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
Alex Whitfield
Ignored what?
You sent words mister words worth the whole time.
Weirder still you proved me right and yet pound your chest like a gorilla.
Are you okay?
My original point.
"Sony will make some money off of each Xbox one"
You said nope don't work that way.
I said yes it does.
You said okay but only pennies.
I said nope somewhere around 2 – 3 $
You said okay it is a $1 best case scenario.
I challenged you to proof.
You gave proof it is $1.80.
Close to what I projected huh?
What happened to the no the don't make money?
Oops I mean pennies no wait its a dollar oh wait actually $1.80
I made an estimate based around an analysis point of view I never claimed hard core "data" but I was right.
They DO make money and nope it wasn't pennies and as I said you never actually knew a darn thing you just now learned all this your ownself.
Good day sir.
1. Learn to fucking type.. ffs, fix your format, it's an eyesore.
2. You are screaming, and nobody knows why, you made claims not knowing the facts, I not only gave the facts to you, but told you where you could see them for yourself rather than live your life in ignorance.
3. Don't call me Sir, I work for a living.
Alex Whitfield
I work for the school system of Raleigh County I am cook my work id is Cook II SP676.
Stop assuming what I am or am not.
Wasn't yelling so yea.
Also the comment structure was purposely that way I was making fun of your atrocious writing, mister (hgere).
Also how am I ignorant?
My original point you challenged, so I challenged you to proof and with each turn your "proof" told a different story.
In the end you only prooved me correct fool (you don't wanna be called sir so be it).
I was saying sony makes money off of each Xbox One sold.
You proved me right.
So where is the argument around here?
Good day "fool".
that's a really long joke nobody is going to get, making EVERY post of yours look like trash and trying to pawn it off as humor for those lacking the basics of English?…
You keep digging a deeper hole, the problem is you haven't looked up to see just how far you have buried yourself.. go peel some potatoes kid….
Alex Whitfield
Your funny fool.
So where have I been "wrong"?
My original point that you rebutted was that Sony makes cash off of each Xbox One, was a wrong?
How many grammar and spelling errors have I made?
Beyond "than over then".
Your "hgere" spelling is better? Also your grammar has been god awful mister fool (again you wish not to be called "sir") so please do go on.
Also was I wrong your story changed constantly?
Or was I wrong on it took you forever to present any evidence beyond words?
Or how about the fact you merely proved what you merely rebutted, was I wrong on that?
So in what form or manor do you speak when I have dug a supposed "hole" for myself? Or are you just flailing about like a fish as you fail at mudslinging yet again?
Also I remember you saying I was "yelling" and throwing a "tantrum", kindly mind pointing as to where I did that?
Hint THIS isn't yelling it is making it BOLD as to emphasize the word beyond the others.
Has my words represent any form of anger? To manifest that I threw a supposed "tantrum"?
Try something else, you have become redundant by this point.
Just stop already, your posts are an eyesore, lacking even the modicum of understanding to be coherent at the least or for that matter qualify as an argument.
Alex Whitfield
So the guy who can't stay on topic, or keep his facts straight, or even spell right for that matter, is going to school me on coherency?
Face it you lost, and you refuse to even talk on any of my points.
You never knew anything about what your talking about you only figured out as you went along, which I already pointed out.
Your just a "fool".
Go home enjoy a beer, and leave me be because unless you argue well anything for real finally I am done.
You proved I was right, so there is no argument anyways good day "fool".
nom nom, redundant, silly tears…..
Alex Whitfield
Put that away no one needed to see what you look like.
Nom nom?
Lovely just lovely of you please do go on.
Damn you guys are crying. I feel ya. It's cool yall. Sony maybe known as SONY once again.
Dr. Denver
The PS4 is for morons
You forgot the period smart guy.
Dr. Denver
Dumbest comeback ever
You did it again.
I'm a moron
Angry xbot much?
Alex Whitfield
How so?
The Xbox 180 from MicroShaft wished to change free market and controll the market from start to finish marking what you can and can not do, aka communism.
So consumers put their cash (aka their vote) on maintaining free market instead so MicoShaft was forced to change.
So no I don't think I nor those like me have made an "idiot" decision one bit.
this is the dumbest post in human history
Alex Whitfield
How so?
Mind doing something other then a crappy one liner.
ignore it, it's some raging wannabe troll cloning peoples monikers and avatars.
click on its profle, and then click on mine, ancient account vs. new one.
Well here's two lines.
You're an idiot.
You're literally too stupid to insult
I like to suck man meat
anyone here interested in gay sex?
I think Sevenizz would be.
This article was written by a biased moron
Its like there's an epic part going on and you dudes weren't invited… social misfits you dudes… PlayStation is for people smart enough to see where Microsoft was taking the future of video gaming and didn't like it. Sony says the people will decide where gaming goes and they did 10 million of em. The only property that Microsoft holds thats of any real value is Windows office… after that… no one uses pcs anymore EXCEPT to game phones and tablets have made them obsolete…they aren't a media giant hints sony making money off every Xbox sold… Microsoft has no passion for anything but shareholders who in a ironic twist want to shut the Xbox division DOWN. And what was the future of the Xbox? Farming your personal information directly from your living rooms via the Kinect then selling them to the highest bidder… product recognition… that kind of thing should freak people out o wait it did… 10 million of em…
hm.. I would say you should calm down, and go over your post to correct some silly errors, but then again, I have my own issues, with some asshat mimicking my account to post what undoubtedly are things he really wants but is trying to pass them off as a joke….
Alex Whitfield
You do realize what he talked of is not only true but an in place business practice.
Relevant advertising as a company calls it.
Notice how say you like guitars you get mostly that form of advertisement while on facebook than google and youtube and Amazon etc.
The companies share ahem I should say sell your information
I guess thats fine while in say Amazon's case.
But when I game I wanna game not be advertised to.
I wasn't commenting on the context of his post, but on it being nearly incomprehensible with all of it's various spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors.
Alex Whitfield
Well than your a waste of breath, ahem context I mean.
People like you are not just annoying, but in the wrong.
What if he is young, typing through a bad format example a phone, he could have english as a second language, or even be mentally not together fully.
Who are you to judge and what relevancy does grammar hold to the point in which he made?
One can learn from all and no one is ever beyond the point of being educated on something new.
"then*".. not than…
having not attended ANY formal schooling until after 20+ years in combat arms, with TBI, if I can manage English and five other languages he damned well should be able to.
Take a look at a 4th grade English Writing text from the 1800's… it makes most adults today seem autistic.
Alex Whitfield
Yes the one who wrote on gay sex is clearly educated.
Go home troll.
that wasn't me, was it you?..
somebody cloning, and neither disquss nor the staff at ET are doing anything about ToS violations.
Grammatical* would be the proper word to use there.
you are ruhtard!!! WHAT A MORON!!!!
Fuck Africa
shut up chink
PS3/360 is not a tie. PS3 passed 360 years ago and continues to dominate world wide. Despite all it had against it like year late (360- 8 million head start) and at $600.
So many are so happy to go back to playstation.
Fuck Africa
people CAN go to playstation now that the controller isn't shit for 11 year old girls
LOL @ "continues to dominate worldwide" … lol Meanwhile, as recent as August 23, the PS3 was outselling the 360 40k units to 26k.
Must be nice out there in wonderland.
Try to troll a little harder. Week of August 23rd
Xbox 360 – 26,681
Difference – 14,179 – More than 50% more sales for PS3
I suppose your fanboy denial doesn't think that's dominating but it is son.
These are very small numbers of course since last gen console sales have dwindled but even now PS3 still continues to dominate. There were much larger differences earlier in the year and I am not sure xbox 360 has ever sold more worldwide since 2009. Only in the US up until GTA V came out which also PS3 dominated 360 on
The 7th generation console war was not a tie, the Wii won
Alex Whitfield
Yes but you must remember tech/game news sites are biased towards Nintendo for whatever reason.
we who?
Even Nintendo have said they do not consider MS and Sony as competition. They don't really sell to the same market which is why the 7th gen was between Sony and MS.
Nintendo has always been part of the video game market since the 1st generation, while Sony joined in the 5th generation and microsoft joined in the 6th generation. The Wii was different from other consoles in that it targeted people of all ages instead of just hardcore gamers, which is probably why the Wii won the 7th generation console war. Nintendo has won more console wars than any other company(1st, 3rd, 4th and 7th generations)
Kevin B
You all know that 5 mio units have been official counted at the beginning of april?
Don' t you think it could be more within the last 3 month? Are you all that stupid? Shure Xbox One is behind PS4, whatever the reasons are, but we don' t know how much exactly until MS tells how many have been sold. So stop talking shit.
January they confirm 3 million Xbox Ones sold….and a total of 3.9 million had been shipped to stores.
April they confirm "north of 5 million" Xbox One consoles shipped in total. So about 1.1 million more Xbox Ones were shipped since January. They did not reveal a sold figure.
In July they confirm they had shipped an additional 1.1 million Xbox consoles since April. These 1.1 million shipped consoles include both Xbox 360 and Xbox One consoles. So they definitely shipped less Xbox Ones than they did 3 months prior.
Just to give Microsoft the severe benefit of the doubt……lets assume that the last 1.1 million Xbox consoles shipped were in fact ALL Xbox One consoles except for just 1 single 360 console.
This would mean Microsoft have shipped a total of 6.1 million Xbox One consoles to retailers since its launch. There is no way they could have actually sold more than this figure. 6.1 million is the very top cap that it could have possibly sold.
When they last announce an actual sold figure they still had 900k Xbox Ones in retail stores…..and there were no complaints of shortages.
Its very reasonable to assume they have around 900k Xbox Ones in retail stores now……which would take the 6.1 million shipped figure down to 5.2 million consoles actually sold. And remember we are assuming that they last shipped 1.1 million Xbox One consoles and only 1 single 360 console.
The current estimation of Xbox One selling around 5 million consoles so far is a very realistic and believable figure.
The fact that they had shipped less Xbox Ones at the end of July than they did by the end of April is a clear sign of less demand for the console. Add into the fact that they ditched Integral Kinect…..something they had repeatedly stated would not happen….another clear sign they were not happy with their actual sale figures. Further highlighted by them not revealing their sale figures and now including Xbox 360 among their shipping figures.
Alex Whitfield
It is called damage control, granted crappy damage control.
Realistic estimates put XB sales to consumers at 4.7-5.0 by the start of August.
jim moore2
Don't forget that having two models "shipped" increases the number sitting in distribution warehouses and stores. There was a "surge" of shipped numbers with the no-kinect model. Likely many of those sold through, but you have a distribution buffer of two models while counting sales as a single console. Likely they are north of 1.5 million sitting on shelves, not just 900k.
Well based on NPD figures which everyone seems to think are very accurate, these are the last 7 months of their figures for Xbox One consoles sold in the USA
-July 2014 – 131k
-June 2014 – 197k
-May 2014 – 77k
-April 2014 – 115k
-March 2014 – 311k
-February 2014 – 258k
-January 2014 – 145k
This amounts to 1,234,000 Xbox Ones sold in the USA from the start of January to the end of July
We do know officially from Microsoft that 3 million Xbox Ones had been sold globally by the end of December 2013. This is the last and only time they ever actually revealed global sale numbers.
Adding the American NPD figure total of the last 7 months to the 3 million end of 2013 global sales total brings up 4,234,000 units definately sold by the end of July 2014.
The question now is how many Xbox Ones sold in Europe from the start of January to the end of July? There is no actual official answer thats been officially released.
But VGCharts platform totals show a constant pattern of the Xbox One selling just slightly over 1/3 the amount of units that it sells in the USA. The PS4 selling 3/4 the amount of units that it sells in the US.
We do thow the German equivalent of NPD not long ago confirmed the PS4 had been outselling the Xbox One 3-1.
Taking 1/3 off the amount of the 1,234,000 Xbox One US NPD sales for the year produces a rough figure of 412,000….but to add another generous 50,000 to that (as it was slightly over 1/3) gives us an estimate of 462,000 Xbox One consoles sold throughout Europe from the start of Januury to the end of July.
Add this to the confirmed 3 million Xbox Ones sold globally by the end of 2013 and the 7 month NPD figure of 1,234,000:
4,696,000 Xbox One consoles sold across USA and Europe since its launch.
As people constantly use the "13 countries only" argument we know for a guarenteed fact that Xbox One could not really sold much at all outside USA and Europe which is where virtually most those 13 countries is where Xbox One is.
We also know they shipped lesser Xbox One consoles from end of April to end of July than they had shipped from end of January to end of April.
Does seem the number of Xbox One consoles in retail shops is more likely closer to what you say.
VGC undertracked PS4 by 700k.
I wonder what the PS4s shipped figure is!
atm, it's really, really close to sold-through, and still having issues meeting demand.
Fuck Africa
nope. no its not.
At 1+ million a month (10 mil in 9 months), Sony is selling PS4s about as fast as they can ship them.
Fuck Africa
yup, soon they'll start selling them to poor kids in africa loll nope
Another malicious, blind shill replying to facts, reality, and reasonable arguments by flinging feces and screaming..
Fuck Africa
holy shit are you the faggot with ebola fuck
Fuck Africa
yeah lol @ drive club. the only game worth playing on the ps4 is that last of us and its a remake
yes. Yes it is. Next.
Fuck Africa
nope you're wrong kill yourself
Fuck Africa
next to what? a ps4 frame rate dip? sony continues to push for more and more – which is great until things don't stay consistent
Good news for Microsoft is that in September they are releasing in a whole bunch of new countries….so this will help them inflate their official shipping only figures when it comes to the January sale announcement!
Shelves of "unlaunched" European countries are already stuffed with Xboxes.
LOL. Right! When the xbox explodes on the scene in uruguay and pago pago, that'll sure knock the PS4 off!
Learn Maths.
my god how old are you people.. grow the fuck up. its a game console. get a life all of you.
Poor baby.
So if we post here, we're babies? But if you do, you're not? Classic reasoning.
I owned ps2 and the original xbox then upgraded to the xbox360 when it was first launched back in late 2005. I did not buy a ps3 I thought the xbox360 had alot of great software comming to the market early. However this time around I traded in my old xbox 360 which was actually my 3rd xbox360 because of the ring of death and opted for the ps4. Hardware was superior the stats look better , the ratings are better on the ps4 and also I do not have to subscribe to xbox live. all plus I think mS make a mistake but not having games in real 1080p people who buy tech when its released are tech junkies and things like that matter to that demographic.
I do not think the Tomb Raider announcement is that significant. They can simply launch a Tomb Raider title by a different name with some of the same components for the ps4 and it will be superior because the hardware is superior
I haven't seen anything "50%" better coming from Sony's superior specs yet…I see much more parity in multiplats and the exclusives for X1 looking superior to PS4 exclusives.
lol.. that's right, you don't wan't people to see who you are.. your statements are embarrassing.
720p to 1080p = 225% more pixels
30 to 60 fps = 100% more FPS
FYI, Tomb Raider is only a timed exclusive.
i tink ITS better that the xbox 360 live stop with the free games with gold and online features! :P
too manny players still likes play @ the 360 console cauze they get to much for free :P
Ps 4 have better hardware ,better games even better price…definetley they on these battle
Xbox One 13 countries vs PS4 Worldwide
ps4 2 countries 1 million in 24 hours, vs MSFT 13 countries "1 million" in 24 hours…..
doesn't matter what country they sell in, ps4>xb1
jim moore2
Xbone all countries via magic of "exports", PS4 50-ish countries officially, but remaining via exports. All countries PS4 outsells Xbone no matter how the product is shipped in.
PS4 outsells X1 in each of those 13 countries.
Will likely outell in each of the other countries.
Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.
Xbox One is still 2 million behind Wii U in sales to consumers (not shipped to stores).
Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-15% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.
The 13 countries XB1 already launched in account for 85-90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny and PS3/PS4 dominated.
Another person who's completely lost. Do you know the countries the xbox one is NOT in? Do you? Do you realize that their total sales would result in a drop in the bucket, even if the console sold well there? If we were to "remove" all of the markets the PS4 is in that the xbox one is not, the difference would be negligible. The markets you're talking about are tiny, tiny territories that make up a fraction of total entertainment sales. Both consoles are currently in every territory that "matters." Translation: You're 100% wrong.
Fuck Africa
"The Xbox 360 did well, but despite launching a year ahead of the PS3 could still only manage a tie over the entire generation"
This is pretty much how it's going to be with any 2 systems competing with each other. Call one or the other a POS, but the X1/PS4 will end up the same at the end of their cycle.
but it wasn't the same, it was drastically different in reality. And THIS, this gen is even further from that.. then a year between, this time with only a few days between the two and PS4 has more than lapped it? It's not even close to the race it was last gen.. MSFT missed the turn for the special olymics and now just looks silly going against the Usain Bolt of consoles….
oops.. incoming racist jokes now…
Fuck Africa
nope no its not. xbone supports 4k resolution, ps4 doesnt. 3-4 years the ps4 will look like shit on any tv
Um no.
Fuck Africa
lol yeah it is virgin, kill yourself
Fuck Africa
um yeah kid, sorry to bum you out
Fuck Africa
lol chick you have no idea what you are talking about.
XB1 doesn't have the same advantages PS3 did to catch up in global sales.
PS4 is keeping its 1st place.
Fuck Africa
yeah i agree, especially since you can predict the future. stupid liberal faggot
Another malicious, blind shill replying to facts, reality, and reasonable arguments by flinging feces and screaming.
Fuck Africa
1st place in frame rate dips! lol at all the fan boys that claim everything is better on PeasantShit4
Kevin Zuniga
Im going to statey opinion here, i personay think the 360 was a much better console than the ps3 not tech wise but online multiplayer experinece wise, now this generation of console i ended up buying thw ps4 because i can assumr down the road ps4 will be the lead console for the majority of the big game developers thus brining a better experience to gaming through the ps4 will i buy a xbox one depneds on friemd reallyost of them are getting or have a ps4 while some are sticking to xbox maybe when it has a price tag of 300 or less but ps4 will be my main console for gaming i belive ps4 will dominate this generation of consoles while xbox one and microsoft will struggle to get to that level therefore microsft will use its money to buy out game devs but other than that PS4 will be the choice for a good majority of gamers brining in hopefully the same experiwnce that i had on the 360
er.. were you one of the writers for this video?
I can't wait to see what happens on the Nov 15th , 15 mil vs 6 mil
I love how everyone is so conveniently forgetting the fact that Xbox One is only being sold in 13 countries and PS4 is being sold worldwide.
I like how people forget that ps4 was outselling xbox one in only two countries when xb1 was launched in 13… and that they keep forgetting those 13 countries still aren't buying it.
Wouldn't matter if xb1 sold in all the countries in the world, it would still be gettimg trounced…
jim moore2
Yep. It's not being sold as exports into any of those other countries. Wait, ooops, it actually is.
Just you guys wait…when MS starts officially selling in Bolivia and Czech Republic, they'll really start catching up.
Problem is, Xbone is being outsold in every single country it is available in, including the US where it handily won last gen, and those sales also account for exports into the reported countries it's "not available" in.
Another moron. Look above to see the reason why this reasoning is 100% false. Each console is currently available in every major, significant market. When the Xbox One "explodes" on the scene in the Sudan or Monaco, let us know. I'm sure that will close the gap.
As someone who has always loved JRPGs, ergo PS generally got the most use out of my collection: Fanboyism = help me, I'm poor. Someone can't afford more than one so they lob insults to justify their purchase.
I own all of them like we have every generation, and besides the PC, surprisingly the Wii U gets more use atm than anything with Mario Kart and Monster Hunter being online. While on paper there is a power difference, I see is no huge graphics changes when I switch from xbox to ps. Nowhere near enough to justify the mouth foaming. While switching from ps/xbox to one of the PCs is absolutely noticeable, but even building them ourselves it cost us twice the price, so not for everyone.
Each console has their awesome games and each console has their "wtf were they thinking" quirks. Being a real gamer is not wanting to limit yourself to one platform, and cut yourself off from experiencing a great game just because a company threw more money to have it exclusively on theirs. Don't be a raging fanboy…you're missing out on a lot and making yourself look like you're back in grade school in the process. "He doesn't like what I like, so I'm going to insult what he likes AND HIM for liking it". So poor. So bitter.
Owning all used to make sense, when each brought something different, this gen one platform in particular is offering NOTHING unique of its own. Its library is on other platforms, and better on them. Its focus is selling the things people already have, the generally public has seen through this snakeoil vendor, this charlatan. This gen is pc, ps4, and likely, hopefully, nintendo.
No point in arguing. I can respect that you like nothing from xbox. I disagree that there is no reason to buy them all. I want xbox exlusives, so I need an xbox. I want PS exlusives, so I need a PS. I want Nintendo exclusives, so I need a Nintendo. Whether you think the xbox exclusives are good enough to warrant a purchase is your opinion and I have no problem with that. I have a problem with people ripping on others because of said opinion. They each have their own strengths and quirks (including company drama), and exclusives. Microsoft has been busted fudging numbers and false advertising. PS has been busted for fudging numbers and false advertising. They're both big companies who's main goal, regardless of your "favorite", will always be to line their pockets with your money. Period. This fanboyism shit just needs to die.
nono.. don't get me wrong, there were certainly a few titles from the xbox label that I enjoyed, Steel Battalion for example was one of them (not online, and not that terrible kinect rehash crap, talking about the original from capcom, with the controller that had 40+ buttons and switches….. )….
what I am saying is, they don't have any exclusives anymore…. and the 1-2 remaining if they were smart would also be published to PC. I have less than any faith that 343 will honestly produce a good Halo game for example, they have been soo focused on other things rather than be honestly and artistically creative that everything since after H3 (and much of H3) has been rot.. just money grabbing and riding on a name.
If they (MSFT) ever honestly comes out with even a SINGLE compelling, honestly exclusive title I would be shocked, and it would have to create a title that literally blows away every game ever made in the history of gaming to warrant the purchase of their product and services alone, which they haven't done. It's time to wave goodbye to this platform, and let it pass into obscurity the way of the dodo bird, sega, panasonic's 3DO, the Jaguar, etc etc….. Perhaps down the road they can try again, in about a decade, first they would need to secure some content though. Sticking to publishing and producing on at the least, pc if not other platforms will give them the opportunity to enrich their IP library. Should they accrue enough, then come back with an honestly competitive product then they might have another shot, but atm all they are doing is little better than stealing candy from babies. Their console products have been progressively worse, if not downright criminal to sell (knowingly selling a product launching with an 87% failure rate down to 54% today… how is that even legal?)…
Don't confuse "fanboyism" with logic. I was a PS2 owner for years, and happily switched to the xbox 360 because Sony felt compelled to change their console philosophy. Now, I'm switching back, because Microsoft has done absolutely NOTHING to retain me as a customer: The DRM fiasco, the forced Kinect (which magically "isn't required" now!), the lack of focus on gaming, their overt goal to control the living room as opposed to being a gaming console, and, last but not least, their releasing a console that can't even match the specs of their competitor.
How anyone would possibly defend the xbox strategy is beyond me. Honestly, if I was an early adopter who got duped into buying the damn thing only to get screwed 5 minutes later by a price drop and Kinect BS – I'd feel like chucking the thing through a window. If you like being treated like crap just so you can play Halo for the 80th time on a less powerful machine, more power to you. Sony may have done plenty of sh*t to consumers over the years, but at least they learned from their errors last gen and are TRYING to rectify them now–and it seems to be working. Cheers.
you seem to be all over every post that is pro xbox. do you even play your shitsation? lol. you seem to be obsessed with your agenda of telling the world how great the ps4 is…but do you even play that pile of trash?
tell me, what games do you play that are currently on the ps4 that are NEXT Gen worthy??? this should be fun.
i can name SEVERAL xbox one exclusives that im currently playing and having a great time. how about you? hahaahaha
PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That's why it's 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony's large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.
PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).
PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies (Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, etc.)
PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there's no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.
PS4 games rated 73+ on Metacritic not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don't Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, TLOU Remastered, The Swapper, Stick It To The Man, ZEN Pinball 2, Star Wars Pinball, The Pinball Arcade, Pure Pool, Fez, Rogue Legacy, Sound Shapes, Sportsfriends, PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate, SteamWorld Dig, Awesomenauts Assemble, Titan Attacks, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Escape Plan, Outlast: Whistleblower.
1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.
Sony's largest 1st party studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Santa Monica are working on unrevealed AAA games. Expect big 1st party AAA reveals in the future. Sony's 1st parties are well funded and the games division is making a profit.
Sony showed the following games at Gamescom 2014:
Sony exclusives: The Tomorrow Children, Until Dawn, Tearaway Unfolded, Alienation, WiLD, Rime, DriveClub, The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, LittleBigPlanet 3
Timed console exclusives: Dreamfall Chapters, HellBlade, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, Volume, HollowPoint, Runemaster, Nom Nom Galaxy, Pix the Cat, Papers Please, In Space We Brawl, Ether One, Qube 2, Snow, DayZ
Multiplatform games: Silent Hills (P.T.), FarCry 4, Destiny, Shadow Of Mordor
Xbox has good exclusive games like DR3, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Collection, Quantum Break, Gears of War, Halo 5, Project Spark, Tomb Raider, Crackdown, Fable Legends, Scalebound, etc. Both consoles have good exclusive games. It's only fanboys blindly trashing one or the other.
what exclusives are you playing right now? congrats you can cut and paste. transformers made more money than everyother movie this year in hollywood, does that make it a better movie than x-men, guardians of the galaxy? planet of the apes? cap america? lego movie? etc? Since when did profit = quality? Seems like there are more sony fans trolling xbox's than actual people who play their playstation 4.
Last of Us, Abe's Odyssey, Resogun: Heroes, and Diablo 3 (not an exclusive but it's a great game)
Yeah there's lots of nasty fanboys on both sides.
He just showed you how the PS4 has plenty of AAA exclusives on the way, and you abandoned your exclusive argument and fell back on the "numbers sold" argument. Typical backpedaling. Hasn't school started? I think it's your bedtime.
an appropriate name, as for your comment.. sigh.. why bother… that's the thing about the ignorant fanatics, they willingly choose to ignore the facts all around them to support the brand name regardless of it's quality.
I would pity you, but you are the one who chose this, don't get mad at me for it, we know the anger you have, deep inside, is for yourself.
lol you need to get a life kid. You didn't answer my question, proving that sony has NO good exclusives. I'll go back to playing my xbox one, you can do what all you sony fanboys do…post on forums/youtube and tell us how much the xbox sucks. haha
Well let me flip this back on you, what xbox one exlusives are YOU currently playing that are NEXT GEN worthy….
What are you playing on xbox one that can't be played on 260, ps3 or ps4? You never answered the guy below. Ryse? Again, Titanfall doesn't count – plus, it's terrible.
How can you be playing several of them if there aren't several to play? You can't count Titanfall, since it was on the 360, too. Other than that, which AAA titles are really available as xbox one exclusives? Ryse? Kinect Sports Rivals? Spare us. Listen, it's Ok to admit your parents wasted $499 on a huge cable converter. Move on.
these stupid fucking articles always ALWAYS fail to point out that the xbox one has yet to release in as many countries as PS4. Once it is selling in more countries it will catch up.
As people like you always fail to ACKNOWLEDGE that USA and Europe are the 2 only life supporting markets for home consoles, proven repeatedly throughout history.
USA and Europe markets combined account for 88% of the Xbox 360s total GLOBAL lifetime sales. 94% for the original Xbox, 75% for the PS3 and currently about 80% for the Playstation 4.
Even if you discounted all PS2s sold outside of USA and Europe…..the PS2 would still be the number 1 biggest selling home console of all time having sold 108 million across USA and Europe…..that is almost 8 million ahead of what the original Nintendo Wii sold GLOBALLY. Over 25 million ahead of what the Xbox 360 has sold globally even. And the PS3.
The UK is by far the main biggest cheese of the European market, followed by France, Germany and Spain. The Xbox One has been available in these key territories since it's launch along with its most vial market…..USA which alone accounted for 57% of ALL Xbox 360s sold in its entire lifetime.
Do you honestly think the $200billion+ enterprise Microsoft would have deliberately held the Xbox One back in all the remaining markets and give Sony almost a year head start if they honestly expected major sales from these proven tiny irrelevant markets?
Do you think they would have removed "Integral" Kinect after repeatedly insisting it will never happen if they really believed that come September, all their sales are suddenly going to burst through the roof and hit expectations?
Stupid fanatics fail to look at facts, ALL facts…
Ps4 outsold xb1 in just 2 countries at launch vs xb1's 13 country simultaneously. Ps4 grew their market on the standard staggard launch that consoles have been doing since the original NES.
It wouldn't matter if xb1 sold in every country in the world against even ps4's 72 markets, the ps4 will still outsell it in every region. While sales in the more popular console regions are 3:1 for ps4, in all other regions it's higher by as much as 7:1 for the ps4.
Give it up, war is over, xbox lost for the 3rd time in a row (it got it's ass handed to it really). Fanboy less, you might get to enjoy games this way.
I would reply to you with actualy facts but it looks like the people below have already a great job of that so I'l leave you with this…..Your fanboy is showing.
Nyx Yuren
need to realize that when the cxboxONE does reach those markets it won't matter as most of those people would have given up waiting and bought a ps4 and that's what people have been doing.Its the reason PS4 sold so many.
Since we have yet another person who doesn't understand the market, I'll just cut and paste my comment from above:
If we were to "remove" all of the markets the PS4 is in that the xbox one is not, the difference would be negligible. The markets you're talking about are tiny, tiny territories that make up a fraction of total entertainment sales. Both consoles are currently in every territory that "matters." Translation: You're 100% wrong.
You really think those big launches in French Guyana, Guam, Oman and Monaco are really going to get the xbox those 5 million units? Comical.
As expected by anyone knowledgeable and sane, tier 2 launches are doing almost nothing for Xbox sales. It's sad this is the result after 10+ months of "wait for Xbox to launch in more countries" from fanboys. Some big plates of crow are ready to be served.
I remember in Black Friday of last year I went to a Walmart to look for a PS4, to my unfortunate luck I found that all of them had been sold out. The lady told me that there were still a bunch of Xbox Ones still unsold and I said no thanks. Even after all the commotion of "next gen cosoles, and black friday sales" Xbox consoles were still not selling. I remembered saying damn Xbox is going to have a hard time selling consoles, and here we are half a year has passed and Xbox is being outsold. I own a PS4 and besides its flaw, being a newly released console, I find that the fact that Microsoft spent there money and effort on TV entertainment hit them really hard. I know they were trying to appeal to other consumers since probably predicted that last gen gamers (most of who owned an Xbox 360) would buy their product, but in reality it told me, being an Xbox 360 owner, that they had nothing much to offer. Moral of the story here is never place your chips on the unknown and put it all in where it is safe, for this generation I hope that MS learned their lesson, and not let their greed destroy what is left.
P.S I'm actually enjoying the free PS + indie games, even if people complain about them, in reality AAA sometimes don't even measure up to indies. Look at the newly coming No Man's Sky AN INDIE GAME. Anyway feel free to give me your thoughts/opinions. :D
These numbers mean nothing to me. After Xbox One is available everywhere ps4 is I'll respect the numbers. I definitely think the other 29 countries MS is launching in Sept will help somewhat. Its not like they wont sell any consoles there…. Even if its only 2 million, that closer to ps4. And I definitely dont think MS is still at 5 million. I own both next gen consoles but to call winners not even a year in is stupid and the fact that the ps4 is available in 3x the territories is laughable… Thats like 11 men on a soccer field playing against 4 and saying the 11 men are kicking the 4s asses!!!! LOL
when are you xbots ever going to at least learn math.. if not just the facts of things.
*ps4, 24 hours, 2 countries, 1 million sold
*xb1, 24 hours, 13 countries at the same time, "1 million sold" ( doubt that statement of theirs as well tbh… took me 4 months to sell the 28 I got in my store..)
no matter how many markets the xb1 releases to, the ps4 will outsell it. It would outsell it using NA alone…. In NA, it's sales are just over 3:1 against the xb1, outside of the NA region, sales against the xb1 are as high as 7:1 in ps4's favor….nobody honestly thinks MSFT ever hit 5 million SOLD THROUGH… (shipped sure, but sold to users?? pfft….. please….), especially xbots.. one of the reasons they are soo angry all of the time. Just let it go, MSFT failed for a 3rd time in a row with their xbox consoles… nothing to see here.
Right now PS4 ~10 million, Wii U ~7 million, Xbox One ~5 million sold to consumers.
Xbox One is still 2 million behind Wii U in sales to consumers (not shipped to stores).
Tier 2 countries will do very little for Xbox sales. An extra 5-15% a month at most after the launch month. Xbox has almost no presence outside of the 13 countries they already launched in. The global picture is accurate as-is.
The 13 countries XB1 already launched in account for 85-90% of 360 sales. The remaining markets are tiny and PS3/PS4 dominated.
yet another person who has absolutely no understanding of the market. If we were to "remove" all of the markets the PS4 is in that the xbox one is not, the difference would be negligible. The markets you're talking about are tiny, tiny territories that make up a fraction of total entertainment sales. Both consoles are currently in every territory that "matters." Translation: You're 100% wrong.
To correct your metaphor: It's like one team with 11 all-stars playing another team with 10 all-stars and a bench player–with the latter team losing 10 million units to 5. Next?
INDIESTATION4! Where you pay 400 dollars to play the best phone apps on your console all in glorious 1080P….maybe like killzone. lol
Do Playstation owners actually play their console? do they even have games for that pile of trash?
PS4 has many great games that gamers love. That's why it's 10+ million in sales and growing. Sony's large number of well funded 1st parties will ensure PS4 has a ton of great AAA exclusives, as many or more than PS3.
PS4/Sony exclusives Jun-Dec: The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, LittleBigPlanet 3, Infamous: First Light, Samurai Warriors 4, Natural Doctrine, Guilty Gear Xrd, Singstar, and lots of indies (Resogun DLC, Counterspy, Hohokum, Velocity 2X, etc.).
PS4/Sony exclusives 2015 (announced): Bloodborne, The Order, Ratchet & Clank Remastered, Uncharted 4, Let It Die, Deep Down, and lots of indies (Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, etc.)
PS4 has 35+ AAA games from July to December 2014. Most of those are multiplatform but there's no shortage of AAA games for PS4 owners.
PS4 games rated 73+ on Metacritic not on XB1: Final Fantasy XIV, Resogun, Transistor, MLB 14, Injustice, Trine 2: Complete Story, TowerFall Ascension, Infamous 2nd Son, Don't Starve, flower, War Thunder, DC Universe Online, Dead Nation, Dynasty Warriors 8, MotoGP 14, Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, TLOU Remastered, The Swapper, Stick It To The Man, ZEN Pinball 2, Star Wars Pinball, The Pinball Arcade, Pure Pool, Fez, Rogue Legacy, Sound Shapes, Sportsfriends, PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate, SteamWorld Dig, Awesomenauts Assemble, Titan Attacks, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Escape Plan, Outlast: Whistleblower.
1st/2nd party studios include Japan Studio, Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, SCE Bend, SCE San Diego, SCE Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, Pixel Opus, Evolution Studios, Guerrilla Games, Guerrilla Cambridge, SCE London, Media Molecule, Ready at Dawn, Quantic Dream, etc.
Sony's largest 1st party studios like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Santa Monica are working on unrevealed AAA games. Expect big 1st party AAA reveals in the future. Sony's 1st parties are well funded and the games division is making a profit.
Sony showed the following games at Gamescom 2014:
Sony exclusives: The Tomorrow Children, Until Dawn, Tearaway Unfolded, Alienation, WiLD, Rime, DriveClub, The Order: 1886, Bloodborne, LittleBigPlanet 3
Timed console exclusives: Dreamfall Chapters, HellBlade, The Vanishing Of Ethan Carter, Volume, HollowPoint, Runemaster, Nom Nom Galaxy, Pix the Cat, Papers Please, In Space We Brawl, Ether One, Qube 2, Snow, DayZ
Multiplatform games: Silent Hills (P.T.), FarCry 4, Destiny, Shadow Of Mordor
Xbox has good exclusive games like DR3, Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, Halo Collection, Quantum Break, Gears of War, Halo 5, Project Spark, Tomb Raider, Crackdown, Fable Legends, Scalebound, etc. Both consoles have good exclusive games. It's only fanboys blindly trashing one or the other.
So you'r saying Killzone is a phone app? You must be blind because as much as I agree that the game really isn't that great, the one thing it absolutely is is gorgeous.
This whole "Playstation doesn't have any games" is ridicules and purely a fanboy statement. Both systems have virtually almost the same number of games,
A graphically more powerful unit with support of more developers and double the install base is trash? Keep reaching, kiddie.
Do xbox one owners actually play their console? What are they playing? That flop TitanFall (they couldn't even GIVE away consoles when they bundled it for free)? Or maybe that dreary Rome-era mess "Ryse?" Actually, never mind answering – it's been clear since E3 – the xbox one was designed to be a cable-overlay machine for fantasy football players.
Enjoy that big 'ol VCR under your tv. It makes a great coaster.
And China just approved Microsoft to sell 5 million units…which I'm sure will sell fast and put Microsoft either right there or ahead of Sony…
No it won't, several articles have already touched on the subject. Both systems have been available on the black market since last year and the PS4 is selling much better than the XB1. This won't change, especially when you will still be able to buy them on the black market for less then what MS will be charging in stores.
LOL. Don't kid yourself.
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How about NO.
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They also said that about the Apple and Android Mobile devices that it would never be a contender in the video game market angry birds, candy crush, plants vs zombies and millions and billions made say otherwise even with graphics that are less than their console competition so Xbox One and Ms with a few AAA hits under their belt will do fine theres room to play for everyone
Apples and oranges. Next.
Xboxone_to rule_them_all
Even those sell pretty well bud Apple was king and now Android out sells them ..time and games will tell not hardware
Since the time XBOX removed Duke controller just because emokids coudn't grab it right, i knew them fags will fail eventually
Kim Marius Falch
If Microsoft decides to do a Hardware change on later editions… 5 mill people are going to be pissed because they need to buy a new one.
Just like the millions who were duped into buying the more expensive Kinect version on launch. MS really batting a thousand this generation.
9 million in 9 months? that is horrible! those are Dreamcast numbers!
Im pissed at Sony ,Square Enix beacause of Tombraider and I dont think anything was wrong with PS3 and X-box360.
Good job Playstation :)
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I don't understand why the writer said PS3 only managed to tie the previous console war. Being released a full year later, that is a HUGE accomplishment. And to be real, PS3 actually has sold more than x360 to date.
Xbox for life
I like mirosoft more only because I have all there consels so I stick with them but the Xbox only sold less because of its price and what Microsoft said but then changed that.
Why would I wanna own a console with less graphics and picture quality… Xbox One/XBoxDone…