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In 1988, the Miami Heat was just a growth team, and for the subsequently couple of years, they played akin to one. On the other hand, the Miami Heat made their first game off appearance in 1992, led by a core of Steve Smith and Rony Seikaly. They lost to the ultimate champion Chicago Bulls.
The team's fortunes would change during the mid 1990's. In 1995, The Heat acquired center Alonzo Mourning from the Charlotte Hornets. After that year, Miami traded for brilliant point guard Tim Hardaway. These two players, along with a supporting cast of Jamal Mashburn, Voshon Lenard, and P.J. Brown, the Heat would go on to rise to the Eastern Conference Finals in 1997. Throughout the late 1990's, the Heat was engaged in a bitter Eastern convention rivalry with the New York Knick, who was led by Mourning's mentor Patrick Ewing. The Miami Heat only defeated the Knick once, and that was in 1997. The Knick would win their gameoff series versus Miami in 1998, 1999, and 2000.
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In 2001, Miami traded much of its core to Charlotte, and was defeated by them in the first round of the game offs. This came during a period in which franchise center Mourning sat out much of the period with a kidney syndrome. The coupling of these factors led to Miami's defeat over the next two years. Nevertheless, the Heat's fortunes changed (rather surprisingly) in the 2003-2004. The Heat drafted Dwayne Wade in the 2003 NBA Draft, and that same off-season signed troubled players Lamar Odom and Rafer Alston. Odom and Alston astonishingly did not prove poisonous to the team's atmospheres, and after a 0-7 start, the Heat found themselves in the 2004 NBA Game offs, where they lost to the Indiana Pacers.
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The Miami warm acquired Shaquille O'Neal for Odom, Brian Grant and Caron Butler via trade with the Los Angeles Lakers in the summer of 2004. The warm made it to the Eastern Conference Finals where they lost in seven games to the Detroit Pistons. The Miami warm acquired Jason Williams and James Posey via trade with the Memphis Grizzlies for Eddie Jones and Antoine Walker from the Boston Celtics. A number of sportswriters, such as Stephen A. Smith say that the warm will win a championship by becoming more brilliant. Others, such as Marc Stein say that Walker and Williams in cooperation "want the ball". The Knick-Heat rivalry is a rivalry between two professional basketball teams, the New York Knick and the Miami warm, of the National Basketball alliance.
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On March 1, 1991 Dave Checketts was named New York Knick team president, and he hired Pat Riley as head coach for the 1991-92 periods. Following years of being bottom-dwellers and also ran's, Riley turned the Knick into justifiable title contenders in a short time, culminating with the Knick becoming Eastern convention Champions in 1994 before losing to the Houston Rockets in the NBA Finals. Incapable to repeat a trip to the Finals in 1995, Riley stepped down as the head coach of the Knick. At the time many speculated either that Riley thought the Knick were no longer a legitimate name threat and that he wanted to move on, or that Riley wanted additional power in the Knick organization. Riley answered that question on September 2, 1995, when he took over as Team President and Head Coach of the underachieving Miami Heat. The warm and the Knick were both in the Atlantic separation of the Eastern convention.
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In just his second period as head coach, Riley's Heat dethroned the New York Knick as Atlantic Division champions. This was the setup for one of the the majority dramatic playoff series in NBA history, when this team met in the second round of the Eastern Conference playoffs. The Knick raced out to a 3-1 lead in the most excellent of seven series, needing just one victory in the final 3games to advance to the Eastern convention finals for the third time in five periods. However, the Heat won in Game 5, which was highlighted by a scuffle that insolvent out among the two teams when Heat power forward P.J. Brown objected to Knick point guard Charlie Ward's attempt to gain situation for a return. Brown flipped Ward over his head and a melee ensued. During the fight, several Knick players, including returning All-Star and team leader Patrick Ewing, left the counter area; the league punished them for this by handing out one-game suspensions, spread over the final 2games of the series. Understaffed by the suspensions, the Knick lost the last 2games and the sequence. The Heat advanced to face the Chicago Bulls in the Eastern convention Finals, where they would lose in 5games.
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The next season, the Knick would avenge their loss in the previous period. Meeting this time in the first round of the NBA game offs, which at the time was a most excellent of five series, the teams split the first 4four games. Patrick Ewing did not play in this sequence as he had injured his wrist during the regular season. Game 4 of this series will always be remembered for a fight that broke out between Heat center and team leader Alonzo Mourning and Knick advance Larry Johnson. Although neither player landed a punch (despite their most excellent intentions) the fight is mostly remembered for Knick coach Jeff Van Gundy hanging on the leg of Mourning while trying to break up the fight. The NBA suspended together Mourning and Johnson for the fight. Without Mourning, the Heat was no match for the Knick in the deciding game five and lost the sequence 3_2.
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The 1998-1999 periods brought more pain to the Heat in this now-vicious rivalry. After splitting the first four games to set up a decisive game 5, Miami was less than a next away from eliminating the eighth-seeded Knick. Knick shooting guard Allan Houston proved to be the hero of the deciding game, as he hit a running one-hander with 0.8 seconds to cooperate to give New York a 78-77 victory. The win propelled the Knick to their next Eastern Conference Championship and to the NBA Finals, where they vanished to the San Antonio Spurs.
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The 2teams met again in the 2000 game offs, where the teams split the first two games, then had the Heat win Game 5. Miami had a chance to clinch the series in Game 6 at Madison Square Garden, but blew an 18 point lead in the fourth part. The Knick then recorded an additional one-point road victory in the important winner-take-all sequence clincher. The Knick rallied from an 11-point initial half deficit to record an 83-82 victory over the warmth before a sellout crowd at the American Airlines Arena. The Knick took an 81-79 lead when Knick swingman Latrell Sprewell hit a pair of free throws with 2:21 left. Heat point sentry Tim Hard away, who finished with 15 points (his 2000 game off high) and seven assists, staked Miami to its final lead (82-81) when he exhausted a 3-pointer with 1:32 left, situation the stage for Ewing's game-winning shot. The Heat had a chance in the final seconds to pick up the lead, but Heat forward Clarence Weather spoon missed a jump shot with seven seconds left.
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A Messy Owen Reading Experience
I was enjoying the Death of Death in the Death of Christ this afternoon. In the meantime, our boys have been sleeping off the last effects of the worst stomach virus that we have ever seen. Jonathan (2 1/2) woke up about 20 minutes ago and decided to sit on my lap and guzzle a protein shake. The result was that my copy of volume ten of Owen's works is now loaded with regurgitated chocolate protein shake. This will make the Death of Death in the Death of Christ more memorable than ever.


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Explore the Ooh-la-la Factor at Seattle's Finest French Restaurants
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Do you love French food? Bien sur! That's a no-brainer; we do too, and that's why we dedicate ourselves to finding the best places to enjoy French cuisine in Seattle. We've diligently scouted out the top eateries, and we've listened to our readers and their reviews of Seattle restaurants. We share the places that get great buzz, like Café Campagne, and we showcase the ones that have proven themselves over time, like Le Gourmand. We also point out good neighborhoods for French restaurants in the Seattle - Downtown area, for instance. When the craving hits, we'll make sure you get your fix! French food in Seattle means fresh baguettes, quiches, soups, tartes, steaks, seafood and the decadent desserts we've all come to expect, but it also means fusion dishes inspired but the flavors of the globe. Mais oui, extensive wine lists complement each food menu, and creative cocktails also make for excellent pairings in this modern age, too. All of these restaurants feature decor elements and ambiences that effectively reflect the romantic air of France—some whisk diners away to intimate Parisian eateries, perfect for a date night or a quiet spot in which to celebrate special occasions, while other venues have the feel of a bustling French cafe on a weekend morning. Either way, you will enjoy. La vie est belle!
9 Toulouse Petit Kitchen & Lounge
Toulouse Petit Kitchen and Lounge has been earning accolades almost since it opened. The ornate and filigreed interior of the space is just the beginning of a dining experience built on the food, style and attitude of New Orleans' French Quarter. Offering breakfast, lunch, dinner and late-night dining, the restaurant has a voluminous menu encompassing Italian, Spanish and French-countryside and coastal-Mediterranean cuisine, along with a full slate of affordable American-style Ppime steakhouse selections, traditional Northwest seafood and a multitude of house-made charcuterie and small-plate offerings. And as you might expect from a spot that takes its cues from the French Quarter, Toulouse is renowned for its happy hour, including the one timed perfectly for a leisurely and extended brunch. (2064329069)
8 Cafe Presse
This charming spot on South Capitol Hill near Seattle University (open since 2007) offers full coffee service featuring Caffe Vita coffee, house-made pastries, affordable French wines, a full bar open daily until 2 a.m., a newsstand of various magazines and newspapers and a menu of "casual Parisian café classics." Patrons feast on options from baguette sandwiches and French onion soup to cod filet, crispy duck leg and vegetarian Raclette. Weekends at Café Presse mean soccer matches featuring teams from America, Europe and around the globe in the bar up front. Café Presse is open every day from 7am til 2am. (206.709.7674)
7 Le Pichet
The skill in preparation that you'll find at this French bistro is practically awe-inspiring. From homemade sausages to a golden roast chicken, everything is provided the utmost care and given a light, capable touch. As a result, flavors shine through, offering diners the essence of the food. The rich country-style pâté is exceptional and makes for a wonderful appetizer, as do the oysters, dressed with a zesty sauce of muscadet wine and shallots. Other specialties include grilled sturgeon, boudin blanc sausage, and a substantial portion of onion soup. Open throughout the day, the eatery welcomes diners with savory traditional fare and a substantial serving of casual charm. (206-256-1499)
6 La Bete
La Bete is an intimate neighborhood restaurant in Seattle's bustling Capitol Hill area. Here, chefs "combine old-world ideals and simplicity with modern esthetics and sensibilities." The venue features an open kitchen, where guests sit at a 22-foot natural slab bar and watch the staff prepare dishes like marinated olives or chicken liver mousse (for starters) and entrees like mussels, pork cheek goulash, homemade potato gnocchi and quail with rice waffle and Brussels sprouts. The venue also offers artisinal, hand-crafted cocktails and good music as the background soundtrack. This is the perfect spot for a romantic date night on the town or a lengthy Sunday lunch with friends or family. ((206) 329-4047)
5 Café Campagne
If you can't get a reservation for lunch or dinner at Campagne and still want to experience the award-winning, bistro-style restaurant, then try the café for brunch. You can't go wrong, and you can visit the Market while in the area. A quintessential Parisian decor provides a delightful backdrop for a fine morning meal, including freshly squeezed orange juice and steaming coffee. Try French toast made with brioche and bourbon egg batter or a fluffy omelet stuffed with potatoes and laced with rosemary.The restaurant also places emphasis on beverage pairings, and an extensive wine menu offers a wide array, most varietals sold by the glass or by the bottle. (206-728-2233)
4 611 Supreme Creperie & Cafe
Owner and chef Margaret Edwins opened the venue in 1997 as a crêperie serving options ranging from traditional to Breton buckwheat "crepes de sarrasin." This cozy red-brick eatery is ideal for people on a budget, especially if Sunday brunch is on the slate. As the name no doubt hints, homemade crêpes are the stars (many local rags regard these as the "best in town"), and the skilled chef stuffs them with everything from salmon, ham, and Gruyere cheese to scallions, potatoes, and sautéed veggies. Friendly, Parisian-esque service and a comfortable lounge make this an easy fave of Capitol Hill's young, hip crowd. (206-328-0292)
3 Place Pigalle
An intimate standout at Pike Place Market, this restaurant beckons you to spend romantic time with someone special. Whether you dine outdoors or in, the warm, inviting French bistro, find spectacular views. Indoor tables boast lovely window vistas, and in summer months, a summer patio overlooks market architecture, Elliot Bay and the majestic Olympic Mountains. Fish that have been fresh-caught that very day, maybe even that very hour, grace the menu, along with briny mussels and a rich onion soup crusted with gruyere. Place Pigalle's strong points include delicious seasonal menus that combine local ingredients with a variety of culinary traditions. (206-624-1756)
2 Brasserie Margaux
Filled with rich wood accents, snowy white tablecloths, and elegant table settings, this restaurant in the Belltown neighborhood offers Northwest-influenced French classics in a comfortable, relaxed atmosphere. Start with the soup du jour; French onion soup, rich with caramelized onions and gruyère cheese, is a comforting favorite. A grilled sea scallop brochette, served over warm chorizo-potato salad, and a giant mushroom ravioli with white truffle cream are indicative of the menu's breadth. Traditional dishes like coq au vin, beef bourguignonne, and steak frites arrive with delicious sides and don't disappoint. Save room for tiramisu profiteroles or the crème brûlée of the month! (206-777-1990)
1 Bastille Cafe and Bar
Get transported to a Parisian cafe with charming, authentic decor like 19th-century sconces from a church in the French countryside, a clock that once hung in a Paris metro station and a host stand that once serviced a small French hotel. The food is equally delightful; try main dishes like moules frites, steak frites, the fish of the day, ricotta Cavatelli and the roasted half chicken with Dijon dumpling, black trumpet mushroom and Brussels sprout gratin. The Back Bar, the self-proclaimed "sexiest place in town" with a crystal chandelier and Art Deco sconces, is the ideal spot for cocktails before or after your meal. (206.453.5014)
About Corinne Whiting
Corinne hails from the other Washington, where she caught the travel bug early on. Corinne studied abroad in Strasbourg, France (undergrad) and in Edinburgh, Scotland (graduate school). She's backpacked around Australia, taught English in Argentina and explored (so far!) countries from Cambodia and Egypt to Turkey and China. Corinne served as associate editor at Where magazine for five years; as a freelancer, she now writes for publications like National Geographic Traveler and Amtrak's Arrive. Here in the lovely Northwest, she's attempting to debunk the rain myths, up her coffee and live music quotient and find her Zen near/on the water.
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Nostalgia time! This old song by Myndflame, featured at the end of Illegal Danish: Super Snacks, brings back all kinds of memories -- horrifying memories of eternal frustration with having to summon roughly 34 people to Molten Core because they were too lazy to get there on their own. Really, guys? Really? You know the locks have to burn a shard for each of your lazy butts, right?
Speaking of raiding, let's take a peek at some posts from around the blogosphere on that topic, shall we?
- Priest With A Cause killed Deathwing and shares some thoughts on how she feels about that.
- Boozekin has the classiest guide ever to jumping into the Raid Finder and clearing Dragon Soul.
- Glow's Branches offers an excellent post all about examining those pesky World of Logs parses.
- Lastly, hey! MMO Melting Pot is now taking nominations for what you think are the best blog posts of the past year.
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The spring of 2011 has been an eventful one for Eve Gleichman. First, in May, she graduated from Haverford with a degree in English, then, just a month later, the aspiring writer found out that she won the esteemed Stony Brook $1000 Short Fiction Prize for her story, "The New Neighbor."
"I was shocked!" says Gleichman, who was at one of her many current odd jobs—babysitting—when she got the news of her win. "The email pops up, and the subject line is 'Stony Brook Fiction Prize results,' which I'm used to seeing two months after a winner's been selected—you know, just an email saying that you weren't selected. So I open it up begrudgingly, and the email just said, 'Eve, comma, you won.' I freaked out. But the only person around to tell was a three-year old eating Cheerios."
The Prize, which is awarded to an undergraduate writer from an American or Canadian college or university, is a monetary one, but also includes free admission to next summer's two-week Southampton Writers' Conference and consideration for publication in The Southampton Review, the literary journal published by the Stony Brook Southampton MFA program in Writing and Literature.
Though one of her stories ("The Things I Have Been") was included in Bennington College's 2009 best undergraduate writing anthology, Plain China, this Stony Brook Prize is the first award that the Maryland-raised Gleichman has won for her work.
"The New Neighbor" was part of her Senior Thesis, a two-story collection titled "Leaving The House: Stories." Gleichman's advisor, Visiting Assistant Professor of English Tom Devaney, praises the ways her work uses "minimal prose style to a quirky maximal effect" and describes her writing as "post-hyperbolic."
"I was so proud of Eve when I heard she won," he says. "She's so talented and good-natured, [and] the fiction award is an affirming gesture, which is helpful for any writer, but especially a younger writer."
Gleichman, who is currently living in Ardmore and looking towards a career in magazine or book publishing, is encouraged by the Prize to keep writing. "This gives me some hope that it can be possible to write and be recognized," she says of her win. "It gives me some hope that I can have some success with it in the future."
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The old Mac Pro Aluminum casing is iconic and was revolutionary for it's time but it is also really heavy and big. I think Apple could keep the same flexibility for upgrades and still reduce the size significantly.
Wasn't the original design partly to handle the super hot Intel chips without sounding like an aircraft hanger? The newer generations of chips run a lot cooler.


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The topic of what happens after you're gone isn't really a fun one to dive into. But experts who work with the area's elderly population say just a bit of planning now can save your family a lot of heartache down the road.
We recently sat down for an interview with Maria Maletta-Hastie at LIFE Geisinger, a day facility for elder care. But this time, she was the one asking the questions: how will I protect my assets from the cost of long-term care? Who will make decisions on my behalf when I can't? Does that person know my wishes? Who will get what when I'm gone? These, she says, are all questions to consider as early as age 30.
"At age 30 I was just making sure my shoes were the same color before I left the house! Estate planning was not on my priority list," said Maria with a laugh.
But watching families do estate planning at the wrong time- when a crisis arises- is what she admits she does often. Maletta-Hastie is the outreach /enrollment coordinator at LIFE Geisinger and often counsels families through the process.
"The phone call comes in- Mom fell, we're in the hospital, she just had surgery, now we need a nursing home and I don't know how I'm going to pay for it,"she says.
It's a common enough problem that she, along with attorneys Brenda Colbert and Kevin Grebas, from Pittston lawfirm Colbert & Grebas, created a seminar to help. They offer it quarterly, and soon will be taking it on the road. About a dozen people turned out to one such seminar Monday night at Geisinger Wyoming Valley near Wilkes-Barre.
"The average cost of nursing home care is over $100,000/year, so without proper plans, people can end up spending a lot more of their assets than they anticipated on that care," noted Atty. Kevin Grebas.
Participants learned what documents they need to spell out their medical and financial wishes, and who is eligible for government help. Armed with the right info, families can have a plan in place when they need it.
"It just alleviates the doubt, it alleviates the dissention, it's very clear cut," said Maletta-Hastie.


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Posted by Anonymous on 01/31/2010
This was hands down the worst steak place that I have ever been to. The meat was tough and had no taste at all. Spinach was bitter and dessert was mediocre at best. I don't know what all the hype is about. What a complete waste of money.
Posted by anonymous on 12/06/2009
$80 (including tip) for a meal that I could get at Outback or Texas Steakhouses for 1/4 of the price (and Outback and Texas have better steaks!). I could somewhat rationalize the prize if the food was amazing, but it isn't. My steak was burned both times I went and the sides were no better than Boston Market! I can't believe this restaurant is so popular. I guess some people have more money than they know what to do with. Do yourself (and your wallet) a favor and skip this one.
Posted by anonymous on 12/02/2009
very expensive,I knew that going in but i could have got the same meal maybe better anywhere else.I believe thier prices are high to keep out reg folks,it's certinly not for the food quality.
Posted by KW on 07/31/2009
This was my first time to Smith, and it was during RW. I went at the last minute and was able to get a table for 3. We were later told that we were actually given a VIP table because that's was the only one available at the time, so I guess that was nice. I am definitely a great steak lover, and likewise had always heard good things about SW. The RW menu seemed quite varied with nice options so I decided to just go. In terms of Steakhouse decor it's just a tad better than most. The staff was overall attentive and pretty good. They were a tiny bit obtrusive here or there, but I blame the relatively small table size as opposed to them. They weren't overly attentive or around a lot, but did a very adequate job. Now the important thing, the food. First off, two of us had the fried Calamari and it was overall very good and very tasty. The other had the Gazpacho and it was a bit of a let down. It had nice flavor characteristics but was overall too strong, mostly the lime, and while a nice portion, was too strong to be able to eat the whole thing. All 3 of us had 10 ounce filets and they were cooked near perfectly. Nice crust, and good overall flavor and tenderness. They were definitely good cuts of meat, and it was obvious. It seems to me that SW doesn't flavor their standard cuts at all, and I would be interested to try one of the cajun cuts. The meat, overall was very good and one of the better steaks you can probably find in the city. The best? No, but pretty darn good. Lugars, still gets my top mark for a standard steak. Surprisingly, I still love the Blackened Rib Eye at Angelo & Maxies the most, and the value there is incredible 28oz for $32 and it's 28oz of incredible flavor. Dylan Prime and the Strip House are also ahead of SW in my opinion, but very close. Although the Beef Wellington at DP is one the best meals you'll find anywhere. Anyway, the RW price was a great value at SW and the deserts btw were also very good. In terms of the regular a la carte prices I can't say they'd be worth it though because they're a bit on the high side for premium steak. I can say this, I doubt you would be disappointed at anything more than a check that would be a little higher than you'd like at SW.
Posted by Brad on 07/16/2009
Went for Restaurant week, of which their menu was boring unless you were willing to pay the $10 up-charge for any of the worthwhile main courses and still only had basic appetizers and desserts. I ended up ordering off the regular menu and the food was disappointingly mediocre at best. The prices are unsurprising for what it is, but some aspects of the experience were surprising for what they charge. The high traffic of the entrance made it feel like a zoo, with a 20 minute wait in spite of our reservation. The mid-town suit and tie types overwhelmed the place with loud pretense. While I cannot impeach the quality of the food itself, the exceedingly simplistic preparations seemed incongruous to the fact I was kept waiting almost 10 minutes after my dining companions had already begun their main course, and then only to be served a steak that although cooked to my desired preference and flavorful, was completely room temperature. I would never go back again.
Posted by Anonymous on 09/24/2008
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Posted by Eddie Going on 09/08/2008
I brought my boyfriend here because he is a big fan of steak and this place seemed like it would be an excellent place to have dinner. The steaks were OK and the vegetables that came with my meal were just all right. My boyfriend's french fries were very good and our mozarella & tomato appetizer wasn't anything out of the ordinary. The staff, while always managing to get us everything we needed, wouldn't take their eyes off of us while we were eating. They stood about 5 feet away and watched us in case we needed anything. As a server, I know that this is a no-no. If the customer needs something, they'll find your eyes and let you know. You can't stand there and stare. I think that it was overpriced for what it was. But, with the company I had while I was there, it was well worth the price :).


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uncooked shell pasta
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turkey bacon
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3/4 cup
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fat free half-and-half
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1/2 teaspoon
cayenne pepper
3/8 teaspoon
smoked paprika
I made this mac and cheese as written only changing the turkey bacon for real bacon. My only reason for using real bacon is because I prefer it over turkey bacon. Excellent! I found it to be creamy with just the right amount of spice. Thanks for posting because it is a great mac and cheese!
The flavor was pretty good, but I thought the cheese had an odd texture. I never use Velveeta so I was unsure what to expect. I was not pleased by the way it was just kind of sticky, more like peanut butter than cheese. If I made again, I would switch cheese types.
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I made this mac and cheese on New Year's Eve as a side dish to a BBQ chicken recipe I have. My guests as well as myself thought that it was very flavorful with a wonderful creaminess. I didn't find it to be overly spicy as written so I added a bit more ground red pepper and a dash of liquid smoke in addition to the smoked paprika. I did not add the turkey bacon into the mac and cheese itself. Instead I let the bacon cool completely then put it in my food processor on "grind" until it had the consistancy of bread crumbs then sprinkled it on top. When making mac and cheese, I usually use a mix of cheddar and American cheese but I thought that the Velveeta melted wonderfully and made this mac and cheese extremely smooth and creamy. I will definitely be making this again, perhaps for the Superbowl!
Great. I stay away for velveeta and processed cheeses. GO to the deli and buy american cheese ENDS. The ends are excellent for cooking and delis usually sell them for $1.99-$2.99 lb... a great bargain and no preservatives like velveeta!
First..as the person who submitted this recipe..I would like to thank everyone who tried it. Second - Yes I do agree that real cheese is always better than Velvetta..but Velvetta does melt smoothly and less greasy than cheddar, for example.
Very good recipe. I couldn't find smoked paprika so i used Spanish paprika (was told they are one in the same) I followed the recipe exactly but I think I will cut it in half next time as this makes a lot.
This was very good! I couldnt find smoked paprika anywhere so I ended up using a little bit of liquid smoke and some chipotle in adobo for a little smokey flovor and some heat.
I tried this over the weekend and served it to the guys at my firehouse. It was very good. I added more cayenne and smoked paprika. Very creamy and great flavor.
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Depending on who you talk to, New Zealand is said to stop (or start) at the Bombay Hills, a small mountain range about 40 kilometres south-east of Auckland which forms a natural barrier between Auckland's urban area and the Waikato River basin. Home to one-third of the country's population, Auckland is very different to the rural areas south of the hills, and with 1.3 million residents the city provides plenty of attractions and entertainment for visitors.
The largest city in New Zealand, Auckland is a great base from which to explore the North and South Islands, and (proportionately to the rest of the world) Australia is only a short flight away.
Auckland – and for that matter, most of New Zealand – is all about the great outdoors. There are plenty of museums, cafés and shops, but for a true taste of Auckland you need to get outside. Fortunately the city's temperate climate is well suited to fresh air activities with the average low rarely reaching single figures.
With two harbours – Waitemata and Manukau – Auckland is where you'll find your sea legs. Take your pick from an adrenaline-fuelled race in an America's Cup yacht, or a leisurely catamaran cruise to Rangitoto Island, scanning the Hauraki Gulf for whales and dolphins. If you prefer solid ground then hike up the grassy slopes of Mount Eden; from its 196 metre peak you can peer into its gaping crater or simply gaze at the Auckland skyline.
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SanDisk's collosal 4TB SSD: Does this mean SSDs will soon provide more storage than hard drives?
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Ever since SSDs first hit the consumer market, performance enthusiasts have had to juggle between high speed storage and disk space. Even today, buying a terabyte of SSD capacity is nearly an order of magnitude more expensive than a 1TB hard drive. Conventional wisdom has predicted that this will remain the case indefinitely, which is why it was surprising to see SanDisk announce an upcoming 4TB SSD. Granted, this is an enterprise drive, intended as a replacement for SAS HDDs — but many consumer technologies start off in the enterprise before hitting dramatically better price points in the mainstream. Could this signal a sea change in SSD capacities? Will SSDs eventually provide more storage than HDDs?
SanDisk isn't giving out all the details on this new drive, but we can infer some of the drive's capabilities based on published data. First, this drive isn't particularly fast. SanDisk is claiming a 400MB/s for read and write speeds, with 75K IOPS of read and 15K IOPS (Input/Output Operations Per Second) of write performance. The company's 800GB Lightning Ultra Gen II SSDs, in contrast, top out at 1,000/600 MB per sec read-write performance and 190K and 100K of read-write IOPS respectively. Clearly, the company is pushing its controller technology to the limit to address enough NAND to make a 4TB drive possible — and it's taking a hit for doing so. Given that all SSDs are typically overprovisioned, the Optimus Max is probably carrying 4.2 – 4.4TB of NAND flash in total.
SanDisk is using this achievement to pound its chest over the imminent arrival of huge SSDs that will dwarf HDD capacities.
This is misleading for a host of reasons. First, the chart is flatly wrong — you can buy a SATA 2.5-inch HDD with a 1.5TB capacity now, while Seagate has 10K SAS 2.5-inch drives with 1.2TB of total capacity. Second, comparing against 2.5-inch HDDs when 3.5-inch drives are scarcely esoteric further tilts the comparison — you can buy 6TB HDDs today, with 8TB models expected in the not-too-distant future. (Read: Who makes the most reliable hard drives?)
But finally, there's price. Seagate's SAS 10K 2.5-inch drive is $650 for 1.2TB. Seagate's 800GB SAS SSD, in contrast, retails for $6600. We can assume that SanDisk might get aggressive on pricing, but unless the company utterly blows its cost curve this 4TB SSD could easily run more than $10,000 — multiple orders of magnitude more expensive than consumer HDDs in terms of cost-per-GB, and more than 10x as expensive as a SAS HDD.
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Ivor O'Connor
Maybe somebody here could answer a question that has always bothered me. We keep seeing SSD storage double and since it is entirely digital why doesn't the streaming speeds double? On a 4TB drive like this I would hope to see streaming data at the rate of 2GBs per second or greater. Putting 32 128GB SSD drives in a RAID 0 configuration might cost the same as this one 4TB drive but the performance would be at the limits of what they MB could take. I'd like this type of performance as one scales up the size of SSDs but it is not happening for some reason.
JD Rahman
The first limit is the SATA interface, which maxes out at about 700MB/s or so. So it doesn't matter how fast the SSD is, the interface is the bottleneck.
PCI Express based SSDs are alternatives. Such as the FusionIO (1.4GB/second read, 1GB/second write), HP Z Turbo Drive (over 1GB/second read/write).
These PCI Express solutions can then be set up in a RAID 0 and the performance does double.
The second limit is the controller and firmware on the SSD itself. So far, the controller/firmware has been optimized to meet the SATA interface capacity. Making it faster would just be wasted. I suppose this will change as the interface improves.
Edit: Link to a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSO9CHdJvg
Ivor O'Connor
Thanks Rahman, I did not realize the individual SATA interfaces were so slow.
So basically then it comes down to getting a good PCI Express RAID controller and stringing SSDs off it. Something that works on Linux Mint and BSD.
Joel Hruska
Not exactly.
Most motherboards could support PCIe 2.0 x4 slots. That's about 1.6GB/s of bandwidth. So you could drop 2-3 of those in a single configuration, but that's going to be the limit. You need PCIe cards, not a PCIe RAID controller — the RAID controller will still connect to the drives via SATA.
Ivor O'Connor
But the data getting to the RAID controller will be say a multiple of the number of SATA SSDs attached to it. Or so I thought. Are you saying that the SSDs are all limited to a max transfer of 6Gb/s?
Joel Hruska
Ok, hold up. This is a PCIe SSD:
This is a PCIe RAID controller:
They're not the same. You don't use a RAID controller on PCIe for this. You use NAND flash mounted on PCIe cards and then you create a RAID in software if you want to use them. The card may *mount* a RAID-capable controller, but you don't wire this up in the same fashion.
Ivor O'Connor
I'm reading the article associated with your first link. At http://www.storagereview.com/micron_p420m_enterprise_pcie_ssd_review
However the second link results in a 403 error. Bad copy?
Ivor O'Connor
I think I'm making this more confusing than it needs to be and need to take a step back by asking a higher level question. How would one get 3GB/s+ transfer rates on a high end consumer desktop by putting multiple SSD drives together?
Probably all us consumers want performance better than a single SSD. And so we look for a way of throwing a bunch of SSDs together until we are either happy with performance or have no more money…
Oh yes. Thank you for all your information Joel. You always do a great job.
Joel Hruska
" How would one get 3GB/s+ transfer rates on a high end consumer desktop by putting multiple SSD drives together?"
You don't. Not yet. That's more bandwidth than any consumer I/O is capable of reaching. Sustaining >3GBps of bandwidth would require PCIe 3.0 x8 or PCIe 2.0 x16. (PCIe 3.0 x4 would get you to 3.2GB/s of theoretical bandwidth but you'd never push that in real-world scenarios).
I'm not sure if any SSD on the planet is fast enough to push that much bandwidth. Keep in mind that at 3GB/s, you're running NAND at low-end DRAM memory bandwidth levels; my AMD A4-5000 whitebook only has about 3GB/s of main memory bandwidth when running in battery mode.
You'd be looking at a five-digit cost of hardware, easily.
I suspect this is a scenario where it's far cheaper to flip the workload around and use DRAM instead of NAND. Instead of spending $20,000+ on an SSD to push 3GB/s, why not spend that money on a server with several hundred GB of RAM running at 60-90GB/s and cache the data?
Ivor O'Connor
I'm not sure if I came across correctly. I keep thinking you don't buy one single SSD as is the subject of this article. So I want to avoid buying something like this collosal 4TB drive and instead buy many smaller ones at a much better price per GB. Then attach these to hardware RAID so the performance would be N x (500MB/s). So in the end I would have much better performance than this one SSD drive, a much better price, and room to expand. This must be possible for us hobbyists at the consumer level? I'm hoping something like this but with normal SSDs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27GmBzQWwP0
Joel Hruska
Ahah. Well, you can't get faster SATA than 600MBps, so that's largely wasted. You have to go to PCIe for that.
Let me cut to the chase. You could build a RAID 0 array of two PCIe NAND cards for theoretical performance of around 1GB/s using off-the-shelf hardware today with far better performance than this 4TB SSD and much better cost/GB.
You'll still pay $1000 – $2000 for the privilege depending on which PCIe solutions you choose, but that's what you can currently do easily.
Ivor O'Connor
So it doesn't work the way I thought. I was so hoping you could put 4 SATA-IIIs each getting 500MB/s onto a RAID controller hooked on to a PCI Express Gen 2/3 slot to get close to 2GB/s and then possibly a second on and then do software raid to get a total of 4GB/s. I'm gathering the interface from the RAID card to the SSDs do not combine the speeds of each SATA device. So no asynchronous calls across all the SSDs attached to the RAID device but serial synchronous calls instead limiting the RAID card to just 600MBps. :(
Joel Hruska
No consumer hardware even approaches 2GB/s on PCIe to start with, so you're cut off at the pass there.
Now, there may be some specialty products that can interleave at the SATA port level — you hook two SATA ports to a single drive and the system uses both ports simultaneously — but I think that everyone shrugged and said: "Just use PCIe" at that point.
Remember, NAND itself isn't really fast enough to push that kind of bandwidth. The very fastest PCIe SSDs can break 700MB/s in ideal tests, which means you could maybe hit 1.4GB/s in RAID 0. There may be SLC SSDs which are faster, but nothing in the consumer space.
I think it's fair to note that you really don't see benefits from this kind of ludicrous speed increase. I do PC Magazine's SSD reviews.
The benefit of an SSD over an HDD is far greater than the benefit of moving from a 2011 SSD to a 2014 top-line PCIe SSD, even though you're still doubling or tripling throughput. The problem is, on a desktop, most workloads are latency sensitive — so getting rid of disk spinup is hugely noticeable.
But the only time you'll really notice the difference between two SSDs is if you're transferring hundreds of GB of data.
Take the use-case of opening 1GB of photos from an HDD. A slow HDD might take 30 seconds. A fast hard drive takes 20 seconds. A slow SSD takes 12 seconds. A fast SSD takes 9 seconds.
(All numbers plucked out of a hat) .
You notice the gap between the fast HDD and the slow SSD far more than the gap between the two SSDs.
Ivor O'Connor
Good points. I've noticed I don't notice speed differences between slow and fast SSDs. HDD on the other hand slows a computer down. It's almost as bad as working off an old floppy drive.
However what I learned today was each PCIe is the real bottleneck. Each PCIe is only capable of doing 12Gb/s. There are several RAID controllers out there as this comparison from NewEgg shows: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=pci%20express%203%2E0%20raid&bop=And&CompareItemList=-1%7C16-118-230%5E16-118-230-TS%2C16-118-233%5E16-118-233-TS%2C16-117-400%5E16-117-400-02%23%2C16-118-229%5E16-118-229-TS%2C16-118-228%5E16-118-228-TS&percm=16-118-230%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-233%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-117-400%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-229%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-228%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24
It might be possible to put together a handful of SSDs on one of those cards and saturate the PCIe RAID. However why bother because like you said there is little to be gained by doing so.
Thank you for helping make it clear to me.
Joel Hruska
Well, you're sorta mixing apples and oranges there. PCIe 3.0 x8 is capable of delivering up to 8GB/s of bidirectional bandwidth.
So a NAND PCI-Express card that used PCI-E x8 could theoretically deliver that much performance IF the controller and flash supported it (most don't).
Remember though, we've been explicitly talking about consumer solutions where PCIe 2.0 x4 is your peak throughput. And PCIe 2.0 x4 only delivers 1.6GB/s effective bandwidth — not 8GB/s.
Ivor O'Connor
PCIe 3.0 x8 motherboards are available by the hundreds at newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=pci%20express%203%2E0%20motherboard&bop=And&cm_sp=KeywordRelated-_-pci_express_3_0_motherboards_am3-_-pci%20express%203%2E0%20motherboard&SrchInDesc=x8&Page=1&PageSize=20 which makes me think this is a consumer solution. At least on the motherboard end of the system. Or is this like 4G networks. Something in name only but which really does not support the standards?
Is then the problem is getting a PCIe 3.0 x8 RAID card, which there are about 5 of at NewEgg, that on paper might work. The average price being about $400 or so. That price still seems consumer level for the average hobbyist.
With some combination of the above two and maybe 8 SSD drives attached to the card using RAID 0 what would you get? Not that such speeds would be needed or noticed above and beyond a regular SSD. However, if possible, it might offer much better pricing, speed, and flexibility than buying a collosal 4TB drive.
Joel Hruska
Sorry, I missed this.
The problem isn't that MOTHERBOARDS don't support PCIe x8. It's that the consumer-facing SSD cards don't use more than PCIe 2.0 x4. These offer about 1.6GB/s of theoretical bandwidth and top out at about 1GB/s in real-world tests:
The only cards using PCIe 3.0 x8 are the really high-end enterprise models.
Look here:
The PCI-E cards starting at $1000 and below are all PCI-Express 2.0, with x4 or x2 links. No one has launched a PCIe 3.0 x8 card for consumers, even if we take $1000 to be a "consumer" price.
Ivor O'Connor
I kind of thought you had grown tired of this thread. Thank you for replying though.
Yes, lots of motherboards support the PCIe 3.0 x8. And yet lots of cards under $1000 also support the PCIe 3.0 x8. Such as here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=pci%20express%203%2E0%20raid&bop=And&CompareItemList=-1%7C16-118-230%5E16-118-230-TS%2C16-118-233%5E16-118-233-TS%2C16-117-400%5E16-117-400-02%23%2C16-118-229%5E16-118-229-TS%2C16-118-228%5E16-118-228-TS&percm=16-118-230%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-233%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-117-400%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-229%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B16-118-228%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24
I like this one by adaptec and it is just under $1,000. Has 24 internal ports. http://www.amazon.com/Adaptec-72405-24-Ports-SATA-Controller/dp/B009GCRUYC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399503880&sr=8-1&keywords=adaptec+72405
Apparently you can dynamically grow your RAID sets. There are probably qualifiers in the small print. I'm going to look for the manual and read up on it. I'm not in market at the moment but a solution like this might work for life. Maybe next year I'll buy one. (Or later this year.) I'll keep my eye open for deals.
Joel Hruska
I'm linking you to PCIe NAND flash drives, and you're responding with links to RAID controllers. It makes me wonder if you understand the difference.
Here's a review of the card that actually includes IOMeter test results (which are incidentally fantastic and break 6.6GB/s)
Nonetheless, they hooked up 24 SSDs in RAID 0 and managed to sustain 6.6GB/s of bandwidth. Just a few problems with that:
1). The 24 SSDs they tested are $800 EACH. So for the low-low price of $19,200 (plus the controller card), you can buy this performance.
2). If every SSD has a 1% chance of failure, 24 SSDs in a RAID 0 has a 22% chance of a drive failure (99% x 24).
Again — buying this level of performance is simply and utterly impractical.
Ivor O'Connor
So we have been talking apples and oranges this whole time! Now however we are finally on the same page!
1). Newegg over the past year has sold 120GB SSD drives for $40. Total price for 24 120GB drives is $960. Much cheaper than $19,200. The last ET SSD deal, http://www.extremetech.com/deals/181146-et-deals-crucial-m500-240gb-ssd-for-120, was $120 for 250GBs. So $2880. The best price I have found on the controller card is $850 at pricewatch.com. So about $3750 for 6TBs of SSD.
2). Good thing about RAID is that it is RAID and you can choose anything from RAID 0 to RAID 60 with hot spares.
I started by asking if a RAID configuration would be cheaper, faster, and more redundant than a 4TB drive. You were extrapolating from "800GB SAS SSD retails for $6600″ which looks depressing. A RAID 60 built with the ET drives and 4 hot spares would be half the price, twice the size, possibly 10x the speed, and be totally secured from disk failures. (See https://www.memset.com/tools/raid-calculator/)
You sure you want to say "this level of performance is simply and utterly impractical"?
Joel Hruska
The vast majority of our conversation on this topic has concerned very high-end storage performance and (mostly) very limited RAID configurations. I kept the conversation consumer-focused because you've discussed consumer hardware.
For example: The controller you linked in your previous response is a 24-port SAS controller — so I discussed the cost and expense of SAS drives. Now you're switching to SATA SSDs and asking me about *their* performance and cost curves.
First, you need a 24-port SATA card, not a 24-port SAS card.
Next, there's the question of whether the drives in question are designed / optimized to work in RAID arrays. I can tell you in total honesty, I would not trust a 24-SSD array in a RAID built with low-end consumer hardware.
When we were discussing this as a consumer solution, I assumed that you wanted to keep price tags to consumer levels (meaning under $1000). Discussed as an enterprise solution with appropriately fault-tolerant drives, you're talking about $20,000 and up.
But I will grant that *if* you can find a SATA card with 24-ports on it (almost everything in this space is SAS), and if you're willing to risk using low-end drives not validated in RAID configurations, and if your concept of "practical" stretches into the $4000 range, then yes — you could have a really nice SSD solution.
Or alternately, you could just buy a few hundred GB of RAM and use a RAM drive. ;)
Ivor O'Connor
"For example: The controller you linked in your previous response is a 24-port SAS controller — so I discussed the cost and expense of SAS drives. Now you're switching to SATA SSDs and asking me about *their* performance and cost curves."
SATA or SAS, I doubt it matters which when you have 24 of them attached. Both are so much overkill you'll max out your system. And the card handles both SATA and SAS. http://download.adaptec.com/pdfs/user_guides/adaptec_raid_controller_iug_8_2013.pdf
If you did a RAM drive you'd loose that big investment when you upgraded your MB. If you stick the RAM drive off PCIe then you have the same bottleneck of gen II vs gen III and not much of a speed gain over a RAID SSD system.
Even if the drives were crappy would it matter when in a RAID 60 config with 4 hot spares? There are numerous RAID calculators and they seem to give data failure rates of once in a million years regardless of how bad the SSDs are. (Assuming you are in a RAID 60 config with four hot spares.)
Joel Hruska
So let me preface this by saying I've never tried to build a RAID at the 16-24 disc level, much less RAID 6
0. And yes — it's entirely possible that "enterprise" SSDs are just called that for marketing terms — but there are some good reasons why I doubt this is true (even when there's conflicting data about how useful enterprise HDDs are compared to desktop flavors).
NAND storage controllers are a great deal more complex than your typical HDD. A NAND controller is essentially a small CPU — it makes decisions about where data is stored (in cache DRAM or on-die), when to aggregate writes, when to perform write leveling, and how to manage the health of the onboard flash. Hard drive controllers don't really *do* most of that, or not to the same degree. A hard drive doesn't have to write to specific sectors to avoid wearing out the platters, but NAND flash controllers *do* do that.
It's therefore plausible that enterprise NAND is tuned differently (at the BIOS and controller level) to ensure that write-leveling is handled properly, that TRIM is still carried out (it's typically non-functional on consumer SSDs when in RAID 0, though hardware RAID cards may have solutions for this), that garbage collection is done at the proper time, and that drives don't wear out too quickly.
It's also possible that this is only an issue with some SSDs but not others. But the question of SSD RAID *is* more complex than the HDD equivalent when it comes to the health and longevity of the NAND. Intel's enterprise SSDs are binned for the best of the NAND that the company manufacturers. Then the firmware is tweaked over and above that point.
Take a look at this article from Anandtech on testing NAND I/O consistency for a good look at one variable. You don't really have to *worry* about this for HDDs.
Ivor O'Connor
All good points. How these RAID cards handle SSD TRIM should be very prominently displayed in all their literature. Yet I don't see that and it makes me very worried. I'll spend some time looking into it.
Joel Hruska
Found this today while researching something else:
Relative NAND endurance between drives. eMLC means enterprise MLC. Again, the question is how much writing you'd be doing to the drives and how well the controllers would distribute the load across the entire unified set of SSDs.
Since the parity drives would have the heaviest write workloads, it might be possible to use high-end drives *just* for parity — but then you'd probably have to make sure all the drives had the same controller, even if they used different NAND.
Ivor O'Connor
Thanks. That graph is now burned into my mind.
I usually spread parity evenly across the drives when I've used RAID in the past.
I got the first response back from Adaptec a few minutes ago. They were most unhelpful. Pointed me to this http://ask.adaptec.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/16994.
So I wrote back asking how to avoid premature SSD burn out due to their RAID implementation not handling TRIM. (You'd think they would proactively offer this information.) I'd imagine they would want to copy over a hot spare and then take the original off-line. Then do a full ATA SE as described here http://www.champsbi.com/secure-erase-solid-state-drive-ssd-important-information/. Once done then move it back in. I don't know if this can be done with their CLI interface via a cron job or not. Or if they can do this safely without lowering their fault tolerance.
Joel Hruska
Not TRIMing a drive doesn't cause burnout, it causes garbage data to not be cleared properly leading to degraded performance. Desktop RAID controllers only recently (within the past 18 months or so) began supporting TRIM in RAID 0, and I have no idea if the big players do or not.
The question of NAND degradation has more to do with whether or not there are firmware-level optimizations that make a drive more robust or more likely to fail in a complex RAID configuration like RAID 60. I want to make it clear — when I say that there could be a difference between how enterprise and consumer-level drives handle complex RAID arrays, I *am* speculating.
I've made some inquiries on the topic.
Ivor O'Connor
I am a bit confused actually.
After reading that article http://www.champsbi.com/secure-erase-solid-state-drive-ssd-important-information/ and similar ones it appears without TRIM a drive will use a subsection of the disk repeatedly because it thinks the rest is already in use. Thus killing the SSD prematurely?
Your second paragraph though, about firmware-level optimizations so the free space on the disk is used evenly, is equally important.
For some reason I assume the second point is handled just fine because the RAID system lets the SSD controller do its thing unhampered. Yet the first point requires the OS to send a special signal to an actual SSD drive the OS has no knowledge of…
Joel Hruska
I can't find any information on the question of whether TRIM helps reliability or not. In theory it could be at least a little helpful.
I mean, as with all things, it *will* depend on how many read/write loads you do. My primary concern is with the parity drives — since the parity drives keep a map of all the other data written to the array, I expect they'd be written to more aggressively. But if you intended to move a static set of data to the array and then just wanted lightning access, it still might not matter.
Ivor O'Connor
Me too. I can't find information on the question of TRIM…
Hardware RAID support for SSDs is, euphemistically, a new industry reminiscent of the wild west.
Fortunately all RAID implementations from Adaptec, Intel, and LSI do not devote a single drive to parity but mix the parity up with the data drives. There can be no excessive wear and tear to a single drive. See:
I'm now looking at the just released LSI9361-8i card for about $550. I'll be reading the owners manual on it as time permits. http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6199/lsi-megaraid-sas3-9361-8i-12gb-s-raid-controller-review/index.html
Ivor O'Connor
After reading the LTS manual and checking LTS configuration prices I've decided Adaptec is better. Better because there is no price creep. When you buy the LSI9361-8i for close to $600 you must then buy an expander card for $300. Then the software to control this card has upgrade options too. So with LSI you get questionable performance increase with no end to additional purchases. On the other hand the price you pay for an Adaptec 72405 card is the complete price.
Ivor O'Connor
Got a reply back from Adaptec. They rely on the SSD's garbage collection to keep the drive clean since there is no TRIM support. Newer drives should have better garbage collection alleviating the need of TRIM support. I suppose there are some utilities to test this? Perhaps this needs to be a metric included in the review notes on all new SSDs? TRIM has been replaced by garbage collection.
Matt Menezes
I'm just brainstorming here, but I think this would work…
If you want TRIM, you could hook up a bunch of SSDs to a controller, use AHCI not RAID/IDE, and go with software-based RAID at the OS level or something. That should still allow you to TRIM drives and get some of the speedups from striping, etc.
If you have a decent CPU, the overhead from running software RAID shouldn't matter – then again if you have like 10+ drives, maybe it will start to build up… :-P
Ivor O'Connor
That is sort of what I had to do on my last build. I used windows 7 with 6 SSDs in a RAID0 config just as you described. This maxed out my PCI bus and since I do backups I'm not worried of failures. Then with lots of disk space due to the 6 drives I put in vmware and installed mint and manjaro. I normally live in the mint world but manjaro is quite nice too. I had to toss the extra GPU card and third monitor though because support for the very latest hardware is always very poor.
Joel Hruska
I'm linking you to PCIe NAND flash drives, and you're responding with links to RAID controllers. It makes me wonder if you understand the difference.
Here's a review of the card that actually includes IOMeter test results (which are incidentally fantastic and break 6.6GB/s)
Nonetheless, they hooked up 24 SSDs in RAID 0 and managed to sustain 6.6GB/s of bandwidth. Just a few problems with that:
1). The 24 SSDs they tested are $800 EACH. So for the low-low price of $19,200 (plus the controller card), you can buy this performance.
2). If every SSD has a 1% chance of failure, 24 SSDs in a RAID 0 has a 22% chance of a drive failure (99% x 24).
Again — buying this level of performance is simply and utterly impractical.
Joel Hruska
Sorry, I missed this.
The problem isn't that MOTHERBOARDS don't support PCIe x8. It's that the consumer-facing SSD cards don't use more than PCIe 2.0 x4. These offer about 1.6GB/s of theoretical bandwidth and top out at about 1GB/s in real-world tests:
The only cards using PCIe 3.0 x8 are the really high-end enterprise models.
Look here:
The PCI-E cards starting at $1000 and below are all PCI-Express 2.0, with x4 or x2 links. No one has launched a PCIe 3.0 x8 card for consumers, even if we take $1000 to be a "consumer" price.
Joel Hruska
JD Rahman is right, but the other problem (I assume) is the number of channels you have to stack to support this much NAND in a single interface. I assume these drives are slow partly because they've got to be stacking controllers or using slower paths to ensure all the NAND has equal bandwidth to the single controller. The 800GB drives are far, far faster than this.
Realistically, two PCIe cards in RAID 0 would deliver much better performance than 32 drives in RAID 0. SATA would bottleneck and you'd be choked off.
Ivor O'Connor
To max out disk throughput you'd need several, three or four, PCI-Express 2+ raid cards, put together to form one volume? It could not be done with a single PCI-Express card?
Joel Hruska
All of the PCIe cards I've seen have relied on PCIe 2.0 x4 at most. That's 400MB per channel = 1.6GB/s of bandwidth.
Most of the consumer controllers aren't quite that fast, so you need a RAID 0 to hit it. The enterprise / industrial chips might be faster, but I'm assuming you want to talk about consumer hardware not enterprise solutions at $10K each. ;)
Uhh LSI 9271? 9361? Pcie x8 is the standard on most enterprise grade controllers and has lately been shifting to pcie 3.0. These are the same controllers that OEMs just solder onto their motherboards with the same x8 capability.
As for the drives, I'm very excited. My companies VM Cluster runs on top of 96 1TB Samsung 840 EVO drives in a ceph cluster, I would love if these came down to $1000 and I could have even more raw storage. All of our stuff that needs dedicated iops is on it's own gluster + zfs cluster with 40gbps to it, but all of our bulk raw storage is on much slower 4TB SAS drives with LSI nytro cards, and even then the nytro cards can only do so much to cover up the slowness of traditional spinning media.
Joel Hruska
Again, which markets? I don't see any PCIe 3.0 in the consumer market. All of the drives that are remotely consumer-facing are still PCIe 2.0 x4.
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Size doesn't deal with speed. only if you use them in RAID configuration. which splits data to two ways. for each drive. one drive has only one way. which the transfer speeds maxes at the speed of the SATA controller. even if the SATA was faster. the drive would not get faster unless they build SSD drives that their normal transfer speeds are faster. along with the newer SATA. 4 next i guess. which if they followed their 2*Previous gen speed. it will be at 12 Gb/s. which is 1.5 GBs
Ivor O'Connor
Yes. I use them in a RAID config.
Video card manufacturers could make a better controller. Use DDR5 put them onto video cards. Dont ask me why.
What about 12 Gbps SAS? Surely these SSD's will perform better with 12 Gbps SAS instead of the slow and old 6 Gbps SAS
The question should not be about size. The question should be about price . . .
Will a comparable SSD of equal size ever be cheaper than it's hard drive rival? And if so, how many years from now will it take? 10 years? 20 years? Will we even see it in our life time?
$650 for 1.2TB is absolutely unreasonable.
Joel Hruska
SSDs are not expected to ever surpass HDDs in cost-per-GB. The question is when consumers stop caring.
For example:
If a 1TB HDD is $40 and a 1TB SSD is $120, and the 1TB SSD is 5-10x faster than the HDD, at what point do you *not* care that the HDD is $40? Does cloud storage impact this equation? If cloud storage was fast enough and connections reliable enough, maybe everybody is satisfied with streaming data + 256GB super-fast SSDs?
I'm not saying that'll happen, but it's part of the big question.
cloud storage makes me scared where is my data or who can see it IDK no connection is no data. but then again if you are only putting pictures , movies on the cloud drive and i could watch it on all my devices then it is not so scary because it is non critical. so i guess a 1TB SDD would be enough especially if games get 40GB in size (without pirate class audio compression)
Joel Hruska
That's an enterprise drive on a SAS interface. WD will sell you 1.5TB of 2.5-inch storage for $150. If you want a consumer 3.5-inch drive, you can buy 4TB for $150.
Roberto Tomás
"But finally, there's price.
Seagate's SAS 10K 2.5-inch drive is $650 for 1.2TB. Seagate's 800GB SAS
SSD, in contrast, retails for $6600."
That's not very honest of the author: a "server class" HD is not really doing anything that a regular hard drive array could do. While the SLC SSD is definitely doing something that a regular hard drive array could not do
Joel Hruska
1). That's an MLC drive, not an SLC drive.
2). Seagate sets its own prices, not me.
3). The point of the price comparison is to illustrate that if an 800GB SAS SSD retails for $6600, a 4TB SAS SSD ain't gonna be cheap.
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Abdulhadi Alajmi
I Hope we can see big hard drive 60+TB
I hate when company send press to the media about breakthrough there R&D team Made
Without giving dead time and the price and speed the new tech can achieve
Here some of them :
Seagate with HAMR UP TO 60TB Hard drive
HP with Memristor UP TO 100TB Hard drive
IBM with Atomic-scale magnetic memory UP TO 400TB Hard drive
Sony Tape have 185TB
5D Disc have 360TB/disc and have unlimited life time of storage
RRAM ,3D nand ,Racetrack Memory Will help to make large and faster hard drive
I Hope i didnt forget any new tech! if you know one not listed above pls let us Know
I will be happy to see the new tech release to the market
Let see if sandisk can to reduce the cost of SSD and double the capacity every year or two !!
Joel Hruska
None of those technologies are near-term practical.
Joel Hruska
None of those technologies are near-term practical.
You seem to be on the feed like I am, they also spoke of a theoretic Petabyte Disc worked on by Swinburne Univ. Anything 4-6TB+ for me is more than enough. Give me a 14-10nm processor, a 4tb Nand, and a solid state/porous/next gen battery in a phone and I will give you a trash can of labtops and desktops.
Stephen Dail
Perhaps with that much storage, spell check will work.
Bulat Ziganshin
500 GB ssd drives are already starts at $220, even with MLC (not TLC)
Matt Menezes
Yeah, I saw that, too. I got my 256GB Crucial MX100 for $100 when it released, and the512GB model was $200. I'd suspect these will drop to $150 in a couple of years…
Matt Menezes
I think TLC will definitely make it down there. Crucials MX100 512GB drives were selling for $200 when they launched. I think they might be 5-10% more now, but still, Samsung sometimes has their 256GB EVO's going for $120. I'd say it's much more likely 512GB TLC drives will drop down to $150 over the next couple years…
James Mauro
First off, yes SSD will eventually overpass rotational drives completely. The question is when. Second off the comment of comparing seagate 10k 1.2gb rotational drive with there own 800gb SSD is totally flawed first off during that same time period samsung was offering a 1tb sad with about 520mbs transfer speeds which surpassed seagate significantly let alone the enormous speed difference between sata3 and above SSD and any rotational drive using any form of connection. the 1 tb samsung evo840 version cost less than 500$ through newegg.com during the time the article was written. It would be very obvious that you do not know what you are talking about with that one piece of information. But wait theres more seagate as a company has been purchasing rotational drive plants names and companies of the past decade. However there drive quality and longevity has declide so much so that no consumer in there correct minds will purchase them. I personally about 6-5 years back had 3 sony laptops each of which where installed with seagate drives all of the drives died within 6 months and the replacement drives sent by sony (also seagate) died again 6 months later. Now onto other company names that actually use seagate products or are owned by seagate. Lacie was once a great company that offered great external storage solutions they wouldn't put seagate drives in them for lets face it they do not preform as well, they have short life spans. However seagate bought the company a few years back and now they put seagate drives in them and they break all the time. Further more not only will ssd surpass rotational drives in transfer speeds but also lowering cost. There is litterly no moving parts there has to be a spindle that takes up space and a movable arm inside the device to read the data along with controllers and so forth the cost of materials and so forth increase the price of rotation drive sets. now chips in sad today are 128gb or smaller in capacity and they together as a group make up the total drive capacity but each chip only cost the company 28 cents or less. Even with a tremendous profit and "other cost" increasing it to 2$ its still cheaper. Yes SSD is new and companies currently try to charge a premium for something that is very inexpensive to manufacture, but it is cheaper to manufacture. Secoundly the only reason why seagate charges what they do for rotational drives is price fixing they are currently trying to buy out the compitions while still producing bad products all of which will lead there company left behind it truly is a bad vestment.
Nova Cash
SSDs have already provided more storage than hard drives. This SSD has up to 10.24TB of storage. http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive-octal
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Mark Hall
heres a question it might be a dumb one but im going to ask it anyways
why dont they just make a 3.5inch SSD? then surely it would easier to make high capacity 2TB and 4TB drives