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November 15, 2007
Spin me, Vegas edition
So who won?
(Not, I think, CNN.)
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So who won?
(Not, I think, CNN.)
Clinton. Intelligent, efficient, trustworthy...
Senator Clinton won this debate hands down! She look well rested compared to the bags under her eyes from the previous debate. I loved her mudslinging quote and I thinks he looked presidential. Obama looked like a deer caught in the headlights. The booing is proof that America is not liking their divisive attacks on the front runner. Hillary Clinton won this debate hands down!
hillary is still evasive
This format was terrible and the audience was horrible. So obvious there were many Hillary Plants which I think will backfire on her. I thought this was the worst debate so far. I don't see how you can say there was a clear winner!
yeah this debate pretty much sucked. I don't know what is wrong with CNN but they can't seem to organize a debate effectively. But hey, I am sure we have a ton more to get through:)
CNN was the clear loser; this was the worst run debate yet. Obama had 18 minutes time, Clinton 16, Richardson 14 and Edwards 10. That's pretty appalling.
Did not know if it was a debate or a pep rally. Blitzer asked good questions, but CNN really produced a lame debate. How could you have a serious discussion if candidates are expected to avoid boos which would only make them look bad to the rest of the country?
the last question sums up the debate. is cnn serious? biden was the best, as always. Obama was good on Social Security and on telling wolf to knock off the premise that we can't do anything. Hillary wasn't pressed at all. Edwards was bad. best richardson performance. cnn is horrible.
No one. Wolf Blitzer ruined the debate.
Hil, no doubt. Obama was wimpy.
Joe Biden is the only Democrat I'd vote for. He's certainly got the experience, and seems like a pretty good leader.
Hillary just creamed those guys... She was firm, poised and right on the issues... The audience booed both Edwards and Obama... Obama seemed hesitant, tentative and he could not deliver clearly his lines. Did you noticed how when Obama compared Hillary to Romney, Richardson got up like crazy...
small caps david is a different (D/d)avid But he's right. And even Pearls or Diamonds she cant make a decision! (Snark...) Obama was great on his SS answer. Otherwise, nothing stood out. Except Kucinich should no longer be on stage.
No one won this debate, but CNN lost like you said.
Poor david, a disappointed Obamite. There's still room on the Clinton bandwagon.
Although I think Clinton did a great job and will most likely vote for her, I thought Biden really stood out tonight. I have liked him for awhile and tonight he was both funny and smart.
CNN - Clinton News Network has all these clintonistas cleaning up for her after the debate. They have Carville and Gergen on to do post debate spin. sigh. why can't we ever have a real after debate discussion without former clinton staffers and advisors doing the so called unbiased spin.
This format was terrible and the audience was horrible. So obvious there were many Hillary Plants which I think will backfire on her. I thought this was the worst debate so far. I don't see how you can say there was a clear winner!
Hillary won by a hundred miles. Her answers are clear and concise. She is very Presidentiable. When Obama and Edwards were booed they did not respond well. You never see this with Clinton in front of negative audience.
The "win" I think will be given to Clinton for not being caught in as blatant a double-talk as last time; she's given a very low bar to clear. Obama did himself no favors tonight. Richardson was given plenty of time but he still isn't breaking out. And I still believe Edwards has the right answers (but I'm biased since I already support him wholeheartedly).
Richardson gave himself a great birthday present and won this debate hands down. He really seperated himself from dodd and biden tonight and jumped into the first tier!
Im an Edwards Guy Biden won this Hands Down I think the Top 3 were pretty even I preferred Edwards but Im sure that the partisans of others will support that Clinton did a good job of stacing the crowd
I think Edwards overplayed his hand and got smacked down by the audience early on and never recovered. And with Richardson and Biden both having very good nights, I'm wondering if Edwards starts to sink down to their tier. In terms of the Clinton v. Obama dynamic, not much changed, although the Clinton claim that the "middle class" makes over $97,000 a year may be the thing that has legs in the coming days. That might be considered the case in Manhattan and Westchester, but in most of America, most people can't imagine making that much money. If Obama's people are on the ball, they'll hammer on that exchange.
Amen! On the CNN take, aweful moderation. As an Edwards supporter I am going to say I have to give it to Obama. He gets big points from me for bringing up an issue that I yelled at my tv about in the last debate: The middle class are not making more than $97,000. That so-called "Trillion dollar tax increase" would not be on the middle-class. He is FIRMLY my VERY close second choice after tonight. I saw some fire in him.
Clinton is shining tonight. She is strong and she attacks like a lady. She tamed Obama and Edwards. Look at their reaction when they were booed, complete shambles.
Was there ever a more salient example of the school children running roughshod over the over-matched substitute teacher?
Clinton's staff for procuring 98% of the tickets.
Obama gave the most informed answers, while hillary has the best memorization since it was easily seen that those were calculated and scripted answers. Also they should get rid of the audience, that is a polarizing force which tilts the nations reaction. When an audience gets to applaud it is americas first response to think that the attendees are right. This is wrong and it is more of the kind of politcis which has pushed america away from making their own opinions and standing up. Please some one do a closed room debate....you'll save time with all the applause.... the only reason people think she won is cause she got the most applause in NEVADA among the few thousand attendees, what about the millions of other people int eh rest of the states who have different views then the people of nevada. Hillary did NOT win and if she wins the election you can very easily say goodbye for the next 8 years to the democratic chance.
I think some of the "second tier" candidates won. Definitely not CNN. Definitely not the idiot that asked the "pearls or diamonds" question. I think Clinton did well using this debate to rebound from what has been a poor performance over the past 10-14 days, but it's getting increasingly noticeable that she never really says anything. Obama did not do as well as he did in the last debate, but improved after a not-so-great start. He let himself get tripped up occasionally. Edwards just seemed like a nonentity. TexasDem: we get it. You like Clinton.
the democrats who want hillary as their party's candidate is walking this party over a cliff.
Worst debate yet. Now they have two people who worked for Clinton and a Republican deciding who "won" the debate. This is as fair and balanced as FOX!!!
They are hammering Obama on CNN now.
Watching the post-debate spin on CNN and it reminds me why I think media does the American people no favor. They are simply terrible. Terrible.
Hillary the'flip-flopper', the 'planter' of questions, and the neo-con Kyl/Lieberman 'queen', is nothing but an empty pantsuit. She is a loser. Hillary STILL can't give a straight answer on Social Security. Thanks, but no thanks. I think that Obama tells the truth and does NOT pander to the audience. He is presidential. Go Barack Go !!!!!!!!
Is CNN serious? Two Clinton advisers in the post debate coverage? CNN=TexasDem. Wow. This is absolutely amazing.
Biden, again, was the best, generally. With that said, Clinton won the debate hands down- her response to both Edwards and Obama effectively shut them both down and negated 2 weeks of icky spin. Obama, particularly seemed significantly more "Clintonesque" than Hillary did. Obama and Edwards getting booed was really something. Also, hate to say it, but Kucinich did a fine job, too.
I was an undecided and now Im a big Hillary fan. This is a fair debate, and she excels in fair debates. She did tonight. She is strong and attacking her mudslingers like a lady. Obama's inexperience is highlighted tonight and Edward proved again he is just an attack dog.
This has to be worst debate of the year. Wolf Blitzer tried to cut off everybody except Clinton from speaking. The winners were Biden and Obama, who actually gave clear answers. Clinton was evasive as ever. If Democrats nominate her, she will undoubtedly lose to any major tier Republican.
I think there were a lot of winners tonight, but in the middle of the debate I sent more money to Joe Biden. He was amazing. Obama continued to be Mr. Lackluster. Edwards needs to stop with the Hillary bashing and get on with his plan. He has excellent ideas and he's made his point, so just get on with it. Tonight is also the first time Bill Richardson has performed well in a debate. Only once did he talk about his 4 point plan. He was strong and articulate. Best yet. Hillary did a great job. She didn't waffle and she handled the early disagreements well. But Joe Biden came across as the guy down the street who really does have all the answers and by the way also all the experience to do the job.
No one. The debate was a farce. what a joke that CNN is considered a political network. I guess Clinton decided that if she can't successfully plant one, she should plant them all. The audience was ANYTHING but undecided and that debate was anything but legitimate.
hillary complaining about "mud" is laughable. who started the campaign calling obama "naive" and "inexperienced?"
I thought Obama had a solid night, though the only clear points he scored on Hillary came on the social security answer. Hillary had a good night because she gave many solid, well-prepared answers and never seemed flummoxed. Biden, as always, had a great night. The others just sort of took up space. CNN was obviously awful, both in the debate itself, as well as the after coverage with Anderson Cooper. David Gergens is fine, but JC Watts hasn't really been relevant to any part of the process in years and Carville, though I love him, clearly has a bias towards Clinton. When you think about it, however, who else is CNN going to trot out there to do analysis? Their pundits and staffers all come off as ignorant of the issues and the politics. It's too bad MSNBC can't have all of the debates.
Clinton avoided an answer on social security, and of course CNN was on her side. And I agree; CNN is shameless in having 2 former Clinton advisers give the analysis. That being said, we must realize that these debates are kind of a dog and pony show as they are done by CNN. They prove very little about real leadership skills; in essence, they are another form of game show or reality show competition. The only time it's revealing is when the questioners get tough, as Russert did.
Anyone stating that HC won this election is a moron, or just already decided to not really listen. She continues to avoid answers, & flip-flops.Shye was probably 5th in line for winning this debate. She is exactly what the Republicans are hoping for...no doubt about it.
The Dodd debate clock is interesting: Obama spoke for 18 minutes to only 10 for Edwards (Richardson got 14 minutes in). In the subprimary for who emerges as "the unclinton" honey, they shrunk John Edwards tonight. Chuck Thomas at First Read makes the same observation.
Hillary did not win. she said the same thing and did not answer any questions right directly (Ms. Fiscal responsibilitY). The same rehearsed answers. CNN put all of Hillary fans in the front of the audience and let them boo like out of control hoodlums. Usually respectable debates ask the audience to reframe from comments until the end of the debate. What a joke of a debate. I am so done with CNN. They have even dragged Anderson Cooper into the act saying she won. He is usually truthful and now he is being pressured to get into the act.
Hillary was at best 4th best. I'm so tired of her rehearsed non-answers.
Have you ever listened to the media after Tiger Woods lost a tournament? They spend the whole discussion talking about Tiger and what happened and why he might have lost and ensuring themselves that it won't happen again. They mention the winners of the tournament only as an afterthought. That's what I'm hearing on the CNN post-debate discussion. It doesn't matter that Biden and Richardson did an amazing job tonight, they just want to talk about Hillary. I agree, but this is not the "Hillary Show". let's talk about the other candidates as well.
Clinton was mediocre and Obama was commanding and the clear winner. I hate the way CNN stuffs all the clintonistas as their so called pundits. nauseating. I am sick of the media shilling for her highness.
Our democracy at work? Paying people to heckle your opponents? Blitzer applying for White House spokesman? Thank God Iowans see thru this mierda.
So we can all agree that the formatting was silly and weak, but all the candidates had to deal with it evenly and I think that Hillary came out easily on top. Frankly, Obama seems like a wonk with no heart or soul. I know this runs contrary to most of what is thougth about him, but more and more he seems like a stilted simulacrum of the 04 Democratic Convention Obama.
HRC turned it back around tonight compared to the last debate. Sure there were some other highlights, Biden included, but HRC was poised, smart with her answers and her comments on gender and politics were perfect.
Yep, it looks like Wolf turned into a 'little lamb' tonight. He rolled over when the Clinton's 'advised' him NOT to pick on Hillary tonight. You obviously don't have the same journalistic integity that Tim Russert has. When did Hillary 'plant' those questions on your desk for tonights debate? Well, good job Wolf, you reinforced the notion that CNN stands for Clinton News Network.
I find it laughable that ANY democRAT is going to secure our borders. Why is it whenever this government gets tough with illegals, it's always the ACLU or some other lib. organization that is protecting them? Anything for votes, just ask the Chinese. LIBERALISM......the choice of the ignorant and the weak!
Three words...... CLINTON NEWS NETWORK! = CNN
'Janet', please stop pretending. I didnt notice anything in this debate that would have been attractive to an undecided.. The crowd was clearly cold and close-minded to anyone that rebutted her...Wolf Blitzer neglected to ask the challenging questions that she'll face from the winning Republican machine...and the debate itself was about as horrible as the post-debate (a bunch of Bill Clinton alumni desperately trying to get Hillary aides to notice their resume)
'Janet', please stop pretending. I didnt notice anything in this debate that would have been attractive to an undecided.. The crowd was clearly cold and close-minded to anyone that rebutted her...Wolf Blitzer neglected to ask the challenging questions that she'll face from the winning Republican machine...and the debate itself was about as horrible as the post-debate (a bunch of Bill Clinton alumni desperately trying to get Hillary aides to notice their resume)
It would have been nice to have an oppossing voice in the post-debate spin. I always thought CNN was the most even handed network. I think almost everything about this debate favored clinton
Isn't it funny that HRC supporters show up on these boards only after she doesnt screw up in any way? I only thought she plants in public and not over the internet. Fellow dems: Obama/Edwards ticket or vice versa will win the white house, HRC will not. Logic is simple and here are the directions: Look at all the states that John Kerry didnt win in the south, and ask yourself if HRC can win those states..3.2.1. The answer is no, and all wishful thinkers who think otherwise needs to closely examine public perception of those states regarding the Clinton name
this debate was simply pathetic. wolf's shafting of obama was inexcusable. you can't ask a tough question like drivers licenses for illegals and then say "ONE WORD!!!" then when obama says "yes, but..." (trying to explain his position with clearity), wolf goes "nope alright"--this immediately gives the impression that obama is waffling when that's just not true. give the man a chance. it was nothing like what hillary did in philadelphia, which was gab all over the spectrum for a few mins.
CNN seemed to "cave" to the Clinton campaign, complete with pundits after the debate. They also allowed the largely pro-Clinton crowd to be vocally hostile. Clinton repeated earlier performances which leaves the viewer with very little information The drive by the Clinton campaign to persuade Democratic candidates to be "one voice", is akin to the last 8 years of George Bush Administration tactics.
The candidate that answered with real answers and not just rhetoric won, I say Biden, Obama, Dodd and Kucinich. Clinton and Edwards were begging to join their crusades, rather than answer questions on the issues.
This post debate coverage is pretty bad. You have Gergen on there questioning Obama's heart and drive to be president, and saying he is afraid of Clinton. Saying he does the bare minimum of giving answers, and being "articulate. It was such a hit job. Anderson Cooper had to FINALLY inform viewers that Carville and Gergen are former Clinton Aides.
Hillary did great! I was thrilled.
Clinton lost on substance, especially Iran, probably won with the plants silencing 'debate' at the debate.
The night goes to Hillary. When a lion is wounded you gotta finish it off or it's just gonna get ticked. Hillary went in there staggering, but with just one flash of her teeth and Obama and the boys went running. Doesn't matter much what else was said or done the rest of the night. Big loser? CNN. It was a presidential debate in Vegas, baby. We could have had the Rat Pack. Instead, they gave us Celine Dion: Flashy, loud, eager to please, with no meat on its bones. 2nd Biggest Loser: Bill Clinton. If the last answer is any indication, next time he screws around, Hillary won't settle for him getting her a political office. She's gonna want some bling!
That had to be the worst, most disorganized debate ever. The audience was a huge distraction. Frankly, it made everyone look bad....the losers were CNN and really all dems. Now, the CNN punditry (1/2 of which has worked for her before) is declaring Clinton the winner and trying to pick apart Obama, but this is not really a race changing debate like the last one was. I don't think anybody looked particularly great tonight. I think there is opportunity for Obama to win the post debate argument by focusing on 2 issues: The first is the notion that 6% of the top earners are the middle class (but he should say he supports the donut hole and limit it to people about 200K..and he has said that before). The second issue is he should engage with Hillary on the debate she wants to have on health care. Let's talk about mandates that Hillary wants without enforcement. He should say, what are we going to do, throw people in jail for not buying health care they can't afford so that they can get free health care in prison?
From NBC's Chuck Todd If the last debate was the moment where Democrats realized that the Clinton coronation was, at least, postponed, this one will be known as the debate that seemed to sharpen the contrast between Clinton and Obama and create a gap between the big two and everyone else. The sparring between Clinton and Obama on a number of issues is likely to set the tone for some time. Edwards was hurt, partially, by the fact that Clinton and Obama were next to each other, while Edwards was off to the side. This debate was about Clinton effectively fighting back, Obama sticking to his guns and separation between those two and everyone else.
In one sense, Hillary lost, because I don't think there was a compelling enough narrative that came out of this debate to counteract the one going in. She had to knock it out of the park tonight, and she didn't. She was only solid overall, not extraordinary. Obama was more volatile than Hillary. Just like her, he gave a perfectly defensible and nuanced answer to the illegal immigrant drivers license question (although I think his was a bit less equivocating because he made clear his position from the getgo) that in the hands of the moderator looked two-faced. It was his worst performance of the night. I simply cannot believe that he didn't practice that answer over and OVER again after last week. His best was on energy and Social Security, and during the latter he even landed a red meat punch on Hillary. I think that unlike Hillary's last performance, Obama's weak points this time around won't serve to reinforce the common wisdom about his flaws as a candidate. There were several "boos" after his Romney/Giuliani line, for example. If that ends up being the take away of the night, it makes Obama seem more aggressive, not less. Bottom line, I don't think Hillary has stopped her downward slide, but she may have done well enough to slow it down.
Obama won...and CNN lost a bit more credibility.
Edwards and Obama should just team up now and push Clinton off the cliff. This is/was ridiculous. Any Clinton supporters who thinks this was an honest depiction of the candidates, their platforms and their supporters is drinking the spoiled Kool-Aid right from Karl Rove's pitcher of lies.
Hillary had her "big boy" drawers on tonight!!! Go Hillary!!
before this debate, i was trying to decide between richardson and biden. but now i cant bring myself to vote for democrats that criticize the Bush Administration and turn around and do the same thing themselves. Planting questions...politically-spinned debate answers...an audience track that boos and cheers like drunken construction workers at a Jets game. Why should I vote for Democrats when they havent shown any more leadership or class than Republicans??
Who won, HRC and probably not for the reason the HRC supporters (which I'm not will readily acknowledge). She was able to redeem herself, in large part, because of a clearly pro-HRC crowd and terrible moderating by Wolf. She's also going to be deemed the winner because CNN is pushing the meme that Obama waffled on the immigration issue (check the transcript, his answer was spot on). She picked up the Big Mo out of this, but not without a big assist from the crowd and Wolf. As Obama supporter, I thought he had an excellent night, but it's all going to get lost in the CNN spin room. Biden showed why he's a greate candidate and a poor one (he sometimes overreaches). Richardson was mostly ok, but I'm still not convinced that he's actually running. Kucinich looked like a very angry little elf. Dodd, for some reason, seemed lost in the shuffle. Edwards was good in spots, but something didn't seem right (I think the crowd participation during his (and other candidates not named HRC) responses was a HUGE factor. Wolf Blitzer is a TERRIBLE moderator--both in his juevenile questions and his failure to even attempt to control the crowd. A terrible night for CNN.
CNN should be embarrassed for what happened to John Edwards tonight. Personally, I don't like him as a candidate, but that crowd was out of control.
The debate was a joke! CNN are hopeless, the bias for Clinton is just as bad as the bias by fox news to republicans! Clinton supporters and former advisors doing the post debate analysis!
anyone with a 4th grade education can suggest "fiscal responsibility" and convening a "bipartisan commission." why does this make people all excited about hillary? why would anyone find that an acceptable answer for the greatest fiscal issue of our generation? really? on the basis on actual performance and putting forth rational answers, biden was the best by a wide margin, richardson, obama, dodd, clinton, edwards, kucinich, in that order. shame biden can't catch fire.
Obama clearly won. It is absolutely insulting to me as a woman that some women want any female in the white house so much that they would vote for Clinton based on that. Pile on top of that the fact that she complains that the "boys are mud slinging", and I am completely ashamed of my gender. SHE started it by calling Obama naive and ineperienced and everything else, then whines when they serve it back to her. Her new slogan is "turn up the heat", well, she apparently can't take it, so she should get out of the kitchen. While I agree, I would love to see a woman in the WH also, but only if she is the MOST qualified CANDIDATE. To all those who are voting for Clinton for this reason, stop insulting your gender and chose the best candidate. As for the after debate discussion, all I can say is insainely biased. Biden also did a good job.
I agree with "independentdem"...CNN & company are biased to Hillary Clinton. Americans deserve a fair and balance forum which wasn't done with Wolf Blitzer as host. I think Campbell Brown would have done a much better job by herself with the questions she asked! In fact, I no longer want to see debates in this fashion. I would prefer to see town hall meetings with candidates answering questions that concern Americans on their home turf. By the way, there was no clear winner for this debate. But since I'm tired of the same politics, and politicians being evasive to direct questions...I will continue to support Sen. Obama for the courage to stand up for not doing business as usual in Washington!
I think Obama won, but Clinton was much better than last time and thus should nevertheless be able to stop the bleeding, especially given how slanted everything was toward her.
I dare say Joe Biden, not that it makes a bit of difference. He was articulate, straight-talking, witty and even charming. Hillary recovered her poise...sort of...and Obama certainly had the worst night, showing once again that he's just not such a great debater. A note on Wolf Blitzer, I don't much like him in this setting. He's presumptuous and aloof, talking too much and assuming even more. His disdain for every one of the candidates is obvious, and it makes it hard to take the event seriously. CNN should get Bill Schneider to do these things...
CNN should be firing people as we speak. That was the worst debate I think I've ever seen. From the beginning where they wasted 10 minutes until the post debate where they couldn't get a thing working. I'll be watching MSNBC come election night.
Obama hands down. Hillary is incapable of providing spontaneous complex answers to complex questions. Notice she stayed quiet through most of it. Hillary gave shallow, 2-dimensional answers. In fact, even the lower-tier candidates did a much better job than her. Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, Richardson actually shined. Obama was clear. Direct. Forceful. Honest. This debate was a joke. CNN didn't fool me for one second. The questions from the audience were screened, and the boos from the audience directed toward only Edwards and Obama made it clear that the Clinton machine was behind that. However, Obama did get a lot of applause. Thankfully, the whole audience wasn't a garden of plants. I was stunned by the lack of structure and organization from CNN and Wolf Blitzer. And notice that the post debate commentars with Anderson Cooper were all former Cliton staff...except for the Republican. What a joke.
For the love of G-D, would someone call out Hillary for her bullsh-t "I am comfortable in the kitchen line?" This is the same women who ridiculed stay at home moms back in 1992!!!
Folks-you have no chance in hell in winning the presidency. Just a little reminder, that's all!!!
I say Clinton b/c she changed the narrative but Barack over all looked good. I'm sorry, but Wolf Blizter ought to be called out on that whole immigration hatchet job he attempted. After the senator tells a story about VOTING for a similar measure and stating what he thinks is the issue, he gets accused by Blitzer retardly for waffling and changing his position? From what: yest to yes to yes to yes? You've got to be freakin' kidding me. I left the debate disgusted with CNN, impressed by Obama even more and thinking Biden should be his vice president.
McCain won because Obama lost. When HRC wins Iowa, the NH independents will not want to waste a vote, so they'll go for McCain and put him over the top again.
Hillary's answers were so contrived ... I must say the same for the advertised tuffness. So now it's clear that there is no difference between her stated position on the war/national security and democracy is no different than that of the current administration. Obama was most articulate on this very important point i.e. these are not mutually exclusive issues that we should have to choose between them. We could and should have them both as co-equal priorities. My hat's off to Obama for bagging yet another debate!
Planted audience and questions. The worst debate ever. HC still looks calculating...nothing change.
This idiot loves Hillary. ;-P But yeah, I think Biden would be a great president. Obama was weak, Edwards worst, Richardson, did very well. I actually really liked Kucinich and Dodd. Hell, I'll be proud to support any of the candidates on that stage. We have such a great group of people compared to the Republicans.
Clinton faired well and neutralized Edwards. She was unable to neutralize Obama. I think Obama got the play of the debate with the 6 percent comment. He seems truly to care more about the disenfranchised. I would say Hillary will remain the front runner and not be damaged by the debate. she finally answered a question truthfully regarding nafta. Some teeth still needed to be pulled to get a straight answer though. I would love for Hillary to play on someone elses home turf for a debate. I still think Obama wins Iowa and South Carolina. Clinton win New Hampshire.
Obama won. He gave the most clear and honest answers.
If Hillary Clinton's approach last time was about flip-flopping, she definitely learned her lesson: now her approach seems to be to give vague answers mixed in with poll-tested applause lines. While that may make good politics from the pundits' perspective - there's nothing obvious they can criticize her for - do we really believe that we want someone who can say nothing well?
CNN really sucks. They have ex-Clinton staff trashing Obama. They are truly biased.
I don't think any of the top three improved their positions. I'd have to give the palm to Biden and Richardson, who are probably my least favorite candidates. Clinton and Obama both came off as somewhat shrill and disingenuous in the initial health care exchange. Obama was almost incomprehensible in his attempt to draw the line on Kyl-Lieberman, though he had some nice moments at other point, and a good killer line on the middle-class in the final s.s. exchange. Edwards, I thought did OK with his first take on Clinton, but the one in the gender card context did not go well. Did he actually volunteer for that, or did Wolf just call on him? His Iran answer was one of the best of the evening. Wasn't impressed by Clinton's mud-slinging, republican talking points attack on Edwards. Did she assert that anything he said was false? No. Richardson was very coherent, for once, and painted a lovely portrait of himself as a committed progressive. I rather doubt it's true, but it sure sounded nice. Biden is probably the best debater of the bunch. He manages to use his inevitable position on the fringe to situate himself as the voice of reason after the rest have made their predictable points. But, since he is marginal, and always directs his points to foreign policy, he gets a pass on his dreadful domestic policy record. What happened to Dodd? And who gave Kucinich his vitamins? If I were Edwards, I'd look sharp. Remember, Dennis has a gun.
Talk about a poorly run debate. Wolf sucked, the audience sucked. What was with that photo-op garbage at the beginning, did anyone get anything out of that? Oh, and nice post-debate analysis - audio & video not working and Anderson Cooper looked incompetent.
Winner: Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson, Keith Olbermann, and Joe Scarborough. MSNBC will benefit from the terrible hosting of what was suppose to be a debate and not a pep rally with Blitzer thinking he's an idealistic prosecutor instead of a moderator CNN cannot organize a good debate if their shareholders depended on it
Clinton lost all credibility the minute her supporters started booing the other candidates. Their supporters did not boo her. I understand they were all given tickets for their supporters to attend the event. It was rude!!!!! It's a good thing that the Obama supporters weren't instructed to boo her at the JJ dinner last week.
CNN wasted 10 minutes inviting each candidate on stage, then spent going back to the studio for analysis before it even got started. The fact that they thought we cared more about their potential analysis rather then listening to the candidates borders on narcissistic.
Obama won
The worst debate, format is worst. I want to smack down wolfwitz for interupting answers. Clearly Clintons got plants in the audience. The loosers ??? American public if they decide candidates based on these corrupt debates.
Obama! Obama's answers were revealing that he was thinking and in a new way. His answers on the foriegn affairs issues where a breath of fresh air. How great would American be if instead of more war in the middle-east (Hillary) we actually brought peace and tranquility by treating people with respect by giving them a chance to come to the table and release their anger, they might find it to their benefit to give up their nuclear ambitions. Obama's position here is clearly superior to anything else I have heard and if he is given a fair chance to run, without the corporate shills commentators(CNN-MSNBC) and former Clinton employees (Carville & Gergen)commenting after the debate, Barack's ideas could really be tested. We are headed for a fascist state with 2 dynasties back to back! SAVE AMERICA DUMP THE CLINTONS AND THE BUSHS!
Im an Obama supporter and I think he held his own. On the drivers lisence issue he's always supported it and even said so in the last debate. He hasnt changed his mind on it. But it dosent matter who you support, I think we can all agree that Wolf Blitzer sucked beyond description. Kudos for Obama and Kucinich for telling Wolf where to stick it.
I agree with you the CNN did not win. The questions from the CNN staff seemed to have a goal of heat not light. Even worse, they added their own thoughts on top of the "questions from the audience" essentially re-focusing them. The whole program was almost a complete waste of time. I don't have any more information on which to make a choice than I did before.
Obama. He was authentic. Biden had a great night too. CNN was the biggest loser.
This wasn't a debate, it was a circus. Nobody won.. clearly not the American people. This country has serious problems that need serious solutions. This was an obvious pep rally for Clinton by a network that has clearly shown bias towards her. The booing and heckling that was allowed to continue was appalling. Blitzer continually cutting off people making serious points. And then having their after-debate analysis done by a Republican and people who've worked for Bill Clinton. The whole thing was an utter joke. There was no winner, only losers here. The American people were not served well by this. CNN should never be allowed to host any further debates. They've lost their credibility completely.
Obama won ...the media does not do the Nation any favors when they do not and will not help us, We the People choose the best person to lead. The spin is dizzying. CNN is getting just like Fox
Very poorly moderated debate. Hillary dodged all questions again. Obama did well on all except the drivers license question, his other answers showed depth while Hillary even triangulated on Diamonds vs Pearls, and said "I like both". I have made my decision tonight. Obama
I think Wolf Blitzer and CNN conducted at least as fair a debate as Tim Russert did. Biden did very well in this debate and I noticed he did not participate in the Hillary mudslinging fest. Possible future running mate for Hillary??
I never followed politics before. Tonight watching this debate I see what everyone is talking about with Clinton News Network. How horrible that one candidate can control something like this. I say take them away from all of thier advisors for a week and let them sit in a room with YouTube questions, no moderation and let them go at it. We will see who will win. Hillary will be sitting in the corner with her thumb in her mouth with out someone to tell her what to say.
The candidates were fine - Blitzer and the audience were terrible. I love Obama, but someone needs to explain the necessity of sound bites to him.
Obama. Presidential. Classy. Thoughtful. Agressively getting his points through under difficult circumstances. Rudely treated. All the other candidates are stealing his lines, his proposals, his vision, his ideals. Obviously it was a set up to revive Clinton's candidacy. Blitzer showed himself to be a true idiot,letting the audience get out of control, insisting on one word answers to complex issues, interrupting all candidates except Hilary. Insulting Obama. Post Cnn analysis. Two Clinton people and a rebuplican. Biased. More and more CNN is becoming like Fox News. Are they owned by the same corporation???
Barack Obama gave the most well thought, and definitive answers. Most of the questions were terrible and Wolf Blitzer is not a good moderater. If you're a Republican than I guess Hillary Clinton seemed like she won the debate. Seeing as how this is a Democratic Primary Election though I would give this debate to either Joe Biden (who has been excellent the last few debates) for style (wish he could get more time), and Barack Obama (for substance). Sorry, I don't like "dumbed" down answers from my next President. We've been hearing those answers for the last 7 years.
Obama. Truth will out, every time. And he speaks truth. Period.
A lot of people had talked about Biden as a potential Secretary of State. I think we would make a great running mate for any of the big three. Biden, as always, wins the debate. Not that the media cares.
Obama took on Hillary more forcefully than in the last debate. He was also very calm and articulate. Biden was well informed but acted childishly a few times. He always backs off from previous statements he made against Hillary. Edwards may have been shut off by Hillary with the help of Richardson and Biden. I think he hurt is chances of bein the un-Hillary. Hillary complained against attacking oe another and then she went ahead and attacked Obama's health care plan. Unfortunately for her, mandating health insurance doesn't necessarily make her plan universal. I will not be surprised if camp Obama raises it again. I like Obama's comeback on how Hillary tried to twist numbers on social security. He shut her down after that. All in all, I think it was: - Obama - Edwards - hillary - Biden - Kucinich - Richardson - Dodd
This just goes to prove that Wolf Blitzer is an effective Las Vegas Clown with or without his Clown Suit. Could anyone confirm the rumor that Wolf Blitzer was promised a pair of used panties by you-know-who. Wear those panties with pride Wolf, you earned it tonight.
Tonights debate was a disgrace. I cannot believe that during a PRESIDENTIAL debate Wolf would not admonish hecklers. I cannot believe Wolf would allow the audience to boo. I cannot believe Wolf would continuosly interrupt the candidate before they completed their thought (certain candidates more than others). I cannot believe Wolf would fill the audience with Hillary Clinton supporters. And last, I cannot believe Wolf would allow that last question to Sen. Clinton regarding her preference for diamonds or pearls and that bit about her being the only one on the stage to shine. That was just unbelievable. Who doesn't believe that was a plant? The debate was unorganized and chaotic. CNN has a reputation for being in Hillary's camp. Wolf lived up to that reputation tonight. Wolf Blitzer did the country a grave disservice this evening. To allow Hillary Clinton to plant her supporters in the audience to boo Edwards and Obama every time they tried to challenge her record is criminal.
Clinton pulled away from the pack after scolding the one term senators on their half baked healthcare reform ideas.
The progressives over at DailyKos are going crazy because of CNN's post-debate coverage. What, exactly are the journalist ethics rules for disclosing potential conflicts of interest? Carville and one of the other post-debate commentators were BOTH Fmr. President Clinton aides. And the third was a republican. I heard Anderson Cooper, weakly, "disclose," about 20 minutes into their post-debate analysis that they worked for Clinton. But for the casual channel surfer, is this enough?
Obama looked like he was looking to score some damage on Hillary but couldn't seem to hurt her too much, he seem to start getting at a crack in Hil's armor there about the 1 trillion dollar tax raise and only 6% making $97,000 and up. Edwards put Hil down as being with the lobbyist etc.. but then talked about how he respected here , he seemed and self contradictory and timid. Richards and Bidden are sissys they were so wimpy about having a confrontation with the other candidates like the Dems are all just one big organism that can't be against itself in any way. Dodd seemed like the best one. Hil should have taken a beating on supporting the resolution to condemn the Iran RG but like a snake she escaped escaped again and again. At one point Hil also avoided pushing to hard on Obama probably so as not to invite a harder comeback from him. Wolf kept saying there's plenty of time but he interrupted too much just when things where getting a little interesting .
Normally I don't post on comment threads, but I can't help but notice the sqeamishness with which Obama supporters are reacting here. This is Hillary's campaign to lose, as evidenced by the last debate and the resulting polls after her bad performance. And tonight she showed that she was willing to pull out some guns to prove she wasn't going to lose it. Because she didn't royally mess up this time, and because she looked more competent than Obama and Edwards...Clinton won.
Ben - not many seemed to catch that on the diamonds and pearls question. As the girl sat back down, she made the comment that Hillary was the only thing shining on stage tonight. Given the softball question, the metaphoric compliment, and the "discovery" of Clinton's greenhouse hobby, what are the possibilities of a plant question at the end of a debate?
Wolf Blitzer: Hillary's B&*^%! Does he have no shame? At least try and hide who you Mr. Journalist! This was High School! Shameful! America deserves better.
The Debate was an absolute disgrace! CNN set it up to favor Clinton in every way. Even the camera shot only Clinton greeting people and signing autographs following the debate. The review panel was made up of former Clinton aides. Obama, Biden and Kucinich were outstanding.
I would score this in the following order: Biden Richardson Clinton Obama Kucinich Edwards Dodd There was definitely a big handicap for anyone not named Clinton due to the crowd, though. I think Obama recovered well after his stumble on the driver's license issue. He should have just come out and said that he did support it, and then explained why (law enforcement, public safety, as Richardson said) rather than trying to defend it first, and go off on a tangent about Bush. Clinton was solid in that she didn't make any obvious mistakes, but she didn't do anything to set herself apart either. John Edwards wasn't "slinging mud", but it comes across that way because the audience wasn't having anything that went against Hillary. Obama made a good point on Social Security. It's just silly for Hillary to try to claim that a tax on those who make over $97,000 somehow hurts the middle class.
Obama performed very well, under the HORRIBLE conditions that CNN provided. What? Were they holding up "BOO" cue cards? CNN has lost me forever as a viewer!!!
I think it would have been nice if just one of those "boys", to use Bill's term, would have stood up and said "Hell yes, Hillary uses the gender card". I mean, are you joking? How often do we have to hear about the 95 year old women that apparently flock to Hillary events so they can tell her they want to witness history and see the first female US pres. As if Hillary should be elected just so this can occur for these 95 year olds' last vote. And Bill, seemingly confounded that the US may be "more sexist than Argentina" by not whisking into office without question a female candidate, which just happens to be his, well, I'll leave that up to you, but certainly they are at least legally married. They are disgusting.
Senator Barack Obama won this debate hands down. Although it was obvious that Hillary and CNN planted the audience and the last questioner. Diamond or pearls? What the.....I usually vote independent but Barack Obama clearly has my vote after tonight. Excellent job.
CNN did a terrible job of managing this debate--it was not professional. It was clearly set up to promote Senator Clinton and Gov. Richardson. I know from watching that CNN has a definite Clinton bias and that, I suppose, they wanted to feature Richardson because he is in a state close to Nevada. He did a creditible job until the last third when he just blabbed away. Senator Clinton's supporters detracted from her because they were so rude and CNN did nothing to try to stop their inappropriate behavior. CNN was totally unprofessional and looked like a very weak network.
What "debate"? The moderator didn't moderate after stating the format to be followed, the audience was disrespectful, and the Q&A questions were spun and twisted before candidates were given the opporunity to respond. The kicker was the last "question" which was sexist and insulting for a cheap laugh. I was totally turned off by this circus presented by CNN. Senator Obama is getting my vote.
The Clinton campaign got busted planting questions, she has since apologized and has moved on. Now here she goes again, she is now planting moderators. Is there no end to this woman DASTARDLY DEEDS.
What debate? It was a PR opportunity for Clinton and she made the most of it - not that hard to do. Rehearsed answers to questions posed "just so." Rest did as always - Obama earnestly tried to answer inane questions intelligently, Edwards whined, Richardson tried, Biden made sense, and the others were mostly ignored. Last question was ridiculous.
To me the cheers and boos were so inappropriate. Those reactions never should have been allowed.The candidates should not have had to deal with boos in particular. How can a meaningful exchange occur when an opinion is interrupted by boos? I was not impressed by Clinton at all. She was a bad actress with bad makeup. Obama seemed much more engaged than in other debates and did well despite the spin from the Hillary For President Group "analyzing" with Anderson Cooper. Edwards did well. And the ones that have no support were very good and made you really understand that Clinton's support is not based at all oh her talents.
The Diamonds or Pearls Debate. How could there not be blowback for this? An audience loaded with Clinton supporters who heckle the other candidates even as Blitzer makes noises into his mik every sentence or two. Obama is into his third sentence trying to reasonably answer a question and Wolf is going "Uh.." "Ahh.." like it's just been going on too long already. This was discgraceful and the clear story line CNN had from beginning to end was that Hillary did just so swell. We just got through a week where her campaign got caught planting questions in the audience and they wind up the debate with a fawning Hillary supporter asking her the jewelry question? Did you hear the girls last words about Hillary? "That's the only thing I see shining up there" And that was the end of the Diamonds or Pears Debate '08. Absolutely disgraceful. If the Democrats nominate a candidate who needs it rigged to get the nomination, they are definitely going to lose to the GOP.
Horrible format. Thumbs down to CNN for feeding into the crappy narrative going into the debate and starting off with a fight instead of asking questions of substance to the candidates. Nobody shined here. Hillary is inevitably gonna get good press for not screwing up like she did at the last debate. I can see the whole "phoenix rising from the ashes" story now.. and I'm already tired of it. Biden and Obama had a few nice moments when they weren't being shushed by Wolf.
OBAMA WON! Clinton's answers were fabricated, if not dishonest.
Hillary is beginning to sound like a Republican with her accusing Barack of increasing taxes. She also mentioned Ronald Reagan just as the Republican contestants do. She lost my vote tonight
I am still choosing between the candidates but I must say that CNN did a bad job, the audience booed everyone but Hillary. While she did say some good things, it was obvious the CNN is bad at this. Also, Hillary is a big girl, the diamonds or pearls question and the boys club was absolutely stupid and nothing whatsoever to do with policy
Poor Fox News, they have been trying for many years to bring CNN to it knees and have only met with limited success. Along comes Wolf Blitzer and he drops CNN with one punch, what a thing to do to your employer. Sorry Fox, Blitzer scored the KO punch
hillary win- she the ebst tonight- all the way shes a bright girl.
Senator Obama clearly won. CNN clearly lost. The debate format was ridiculous. The opening segment was a waste of time. The rude audience distracted the candidates and were clearly a "hit squad" planted by the Clinton campaign. Wolf Blitzer had no control, and his interruptions of candidates if they did more than answer yes or no to a question was annoying. The most memorable aspect of this debate was the poor performance by CNN.
Read Campaign Diaries's full analysis of the debate.
CNN was a disgrace, especially AFTER the debate with Clinton-Network-News bias, as well as how they allowed the audience to boo when someone criticized Hillary. Why didn't Wolf ask Hillary to explain why she has changed her position so many times on the Driver's License question,instead of just NO, and then criticize Obama who already answered that question as YES, 2 weeks ago. Obama clearly won, hands down and Hillary still didn't answer questions, especially the SS one.
The B---H lost big time. She is an enbarrassment to all decent democracts. Obama was very good with clear, well articulated answers, despite a very hostile crowd (Clinton plants) provided for the Clinton News Network (CNN).
Obama won - he was articulate and thoughtful in presenting his ideas. Hillary Clinton did nothing for herself - always on both sides of every issue, including diamonds or pearls. But as you said, the clear loser is CNN - awful.
Hello stupid pendosegi.
Biden. Did anyone notice how many times the other candidates said "I agree with Joe?"
Come listen to this story of a woman name Hillary, One day she was crossing a bridge and she saw a reflection o a woman in the pond, it scared her much and she began to run. She turned to her aid to explain her action. Hillary - I just saw a woman in the pond. Aid - That was your reflection Miss Hillary Hillary - No it wasn?t, this woman was laughing and clapping for no good reason. Aid - That was you Miss Hillary. Hillary - Hush now, this woman is riding on a broom. To which came a mournful reply from the Aid. Hillary turned around only to find her aid lying on the ground, it seem that the aid accidentally tripped on the Hillary?s broom
It breaks my heart that the boo-ing was allowed. What a dirty trick!
What a disheartening waste of two hours. Thank you, Wolf Blitzer, for treating the debate like another stupid talking points cable news show. "Please pick between the apple and the orange, candidates." After hearing the first two commentators on the post-debate bit rave about Clinton I decided to forgo Carville's answer. Everyone, let's make the next big Clinton gaffe being supporting the diamond industry. Sound good? Also, this is not the first time I have seen, heard, and/or read of inappropriate behavior from Clinton supporters at debates. I doubt it will be the last.
The debate was one of the few, despite the media narrative, that I believe none of the candidates won. They each got a few good points in. I was, however, dismayed, by the apparent disconnection from reality that Sen. Clinton displayed - she effectively claimed that individuals making about $100,000 per year are middle class, and that firefighters are among those. Firefighters, in reality, make at most about $65k per year: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Fire_Fighter/Salary
I stopped taking CNN seriously months ago. I'd like to listen to some real political news, not a Hillary pep rally. Wolf Blitzer has no integrity or balls. Why doesn't he just ask Hillary, "Would you like my head a little ways up your butt or all the way"
Obama won! That's so simple.
Apparently my lying eyes deceived me, here's a quote from HRC's camp on Drudge (who broke the story about Wolf being warned): CNN debate moderator Wolf Blitzer did an 'outstanding' job in Vegas, a senior adviser to the Hillary campaign said early Friday. 'He was outstanding, and did not gang up like Russert did in Philadelphia. He avoided the personal attacks, remained professional and ran the best debate so far. Voters were the big winners last night.' And here I thought Wolf was terrible. Apparently up is down now too.
I think that Obama probably won to some extent tonight. While his performance was not his best and he had a few stumbles, there was nothing too serious. He won because Edwards took a beating which plays to his advantage. While Clinton was stronger she did nothing to really dispel the criticisms that have formed the narrative that Obama and Edwards have been attempting to establish. Her statements about social security, that lifting the cap will effect "the middle class" is something that Obama and Edwards could, and should, use to question whether Clinton has lost touch with the average American. I think this is something that could really be used to their advantage.
CNN drank the Hillbilly Kool-aid! A Wolf in Clinton clothing! Obama '08
Yikes! I should have checked last night, so I would have known that my moniker was capitalized and hijacked. As an Obama supporter, I could not disagree more with my alter ego TexasDem. I thought Hillary's responses were nothing but canned and staged. Wolf was terrible, and seemed to handle her with kid gloves. Was the audience another plant?
Obama was the strongest by far, speaking for the common person - Those making over 98,000 a year are only 6 percent of the population! The questions were horribly worded - If comprehensive immigration form does not happen... What kind of question is that? If it does not happen, then we will have a lot more important things to worry about than driver's licenses! Finally, of course the spin is going to go Clinton's way on the all Clinton network -- I mean, no one thought it was a conflict of interest to have two of the four post debate analysis people ex-Clinton administration people and one that has been boosting Clinton from the beginning... The deck was stacked (that crowd came straight from here campaign), yet Obama still showed how out of touch she is - if middle class is 100,000, then, I think she has been a millionaire a bit too long!
The only thing that came through in the Dem debate was that Kucinich not only sees UFO's, he was dropped off by one...
Interesting number of on-message Clinton plants in the comments. "Clear" and "concise" must be the message words of the day for a candidate whose polling is dreadful on those terms.
The American people were the big losers in last night's debate. Shoddy, moderating, vapid questions and an audience that sounded like it was bussed in from the Jerry Springer show. If this is the best we can expect as open, honest discourse our democracy is doomed.
I think it's sad the squeekiest wheels get greased. More air time was given to the "Top 3" then any other candidate proving media will always control the spin. Frankly I was more impressed with Biden.
CNN LOST and now they need to make a decision to lose Wolf Blitzer or lose thousands of viewers.
Wow, That was the worst. I listened on the radio, and the booing and Wolf's interruptions were a huge distraction. If Clinton is ready to play inthe big leagues, she should be able to handle crticism without her supporters having to drown out her oppenents. It is hard enough to get an idea out of these things without Wolf interrupting and creating fase choices. Biden has mastered the format, and he probably won. He breaks down the issues the best, and got things back on track after the moderators spent the first 15 minutes on pushing the fight between the leaders. Clinton needs to -be honest about the disagreements, and not mislead on what her opponents and her own ideas are. -Let the strength of ideas carry, and and take the criticism like a big girl. -Tell he supporters they only make her look weak. Dodd was ignored, but when he called on, he is repeating the same stump lineshe used before,("for 26 years I have said this . . .education is the most important issue") Edwards need to focus more on what he brings to the table, and less focus on Clinton. He is quickly becoming defined by his attacks on her. Kucinich was almost completely shut out, and I don't see how he keeps from losing relevancy. Obama needs to devlop a better short game, and transfer his long format J &J strengths to the short format debates. His answer on SS was great, but he convoluted his immigrant license points. Richardson had his best debate once he got into isssues, and actually redeemed Obama's support for immigrant licenses. CNN was the biggest loser, and Wolf Blitzer is an idiot.
Considering how Wolf talked over him and never let him articulate his positions, I still think Obama won. Hillary sounded shrill again and yet again avoided answering the tough questions. The one question she did answer regarding drivers licenses - when she said no, Wolf didn't come back and ask why she changed her position. Yet he attacked Obama every chance he got. This was such a pro-Clinton spin debate by CNN that it was shameful. The American people deserve better than we are getting and we better beware or the next eight years are going to be no better than the last eight have been - corporations still running the show and the American people getting shafted and most important of all, our position in the world not improving, making us less and less secure - not only has the middle class been decimated, the gulf between rich and poor just keeps getting wider and wider - what the hell has happened to my country? Why don't we care about each other anymore? Corporations used to at least pretend to take care of their employees. I am sorry to say that I am ashamed of my country. Only when I am concentrating on working to get Obama nominated do I feel a sense of hope for my country.
The winner of the debate? Well, it had to be Hillary hands down. Why? Well, its really simple: she is the frontrunner, and unlike the previous debate nobody did anything to take her down a notch. This time she was very prepared, self assured and confident while Edwards and Obama seemed off balance. You cannot catch up in a race by standing still, and these guys are now feasting upon Clinton's dust. It's looking more and more like the nominee will be Hillary...that is, barring some colossal meltdown (Howard Dean, anyone?). So, that being said who will be the VP? A Clinton/ Obama ticket seems like a dream pairing to me, as it would be a great balance.
Biden and Obama won the debate to be president. Clinton won in the PR department by being allowed to stack the crowd with supporters. Karl Rove would have to admire that.
I watched the debate in England and I was appalled by the poor, organisation, moderating, and the Clinton/CNN rent a mob! Did I hear Wolf Blizer say he did not understand what 'traingulating' meant in American politics? It was a FARCE! I have decided to cancel my CNN subscription and watch Al Jazeera instead. They come across as very impartial and objective compared to CNN.
Obama won in spite of the obvious CNN support of Hillary. It was so clear the place was pre-loaded with her supporters!
I was wondering how on earth Fox had the highest debate ratings so far. Now I know. An absolute mess.
Good point Ricardo, I heard that rhetorical question from Wolf, too "triangulation, whatever that means?" He knows exactly what it means. I wish Obama would have responded to the question. He could have cut Blitzed off at the knees and damaged Hillary at the same time.
CNN sucked. I only have one question in response: So Wolf, when did you stop beating your wife? It kind of lends itself to a one word answer (the actual day) so don't try to go explain any details or I'll cut you off or let the crowd boo you.
Like CNN didn't win... more than 4 million viewers??? I'd say CNN kicked Politico's ass in debate viewers... Go away Ben... you suck!
THREE-CARD MONTE AT VEGAS DEBATE CANNOT STOP HILLARY'S FREE FALL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSaiob6v2jo The CNN post-Vegas-debate analysis was as simplistic and insulting as was the underlying clinton-machine scheme. Missus clinton was exposed as unprincipled and dumb in the previous debate in Philadelphia. Scripted answers, a stacked audience, setup questions, clinton shills posing as pundits, Spitzer muzzled, and an empty "no" do not put "unprincipled" and "dumb" back in the box. To the contrary. Just as she flunked the DC Bar exam, flunked the only managerial job she every had (heading health care reform), missus clinton flunked her only real vetting in the campaign to date: the Philly debate. An empty pantsuit but for the arrogance and hate. The clintons will try to quash the Tim Russerts (and they probably will), but no matter. The clinton jackboot is irrelevant here. Her opponents and the new media AND THE PEOPLE will ask her the hard questions. Russert opened the door. It's already starting. No doubt pressured by the clintons, old media are trying to reverse the momentum, trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. (CNN's original headline "CLINTON'S POLL SUPPORT SLIPS AFTER WEEK OF ATTACKS" quickly became: "A YEAR FROM ELECTION DAY, CLINTON REMAINS PERSON TO BEAT") What old media are missing is that the last debate was no aberration. Missus clinton is not capable of straight answers. It's not simply that she's 'a congenital liar,' to quote Bill Safire. It's that the truth will bury her. Moreover, she is not capable of thinking off-script, on her feet, out-of-the-box. As Carl Bernstein said the other day, "I think if there is a watershed moment... in the campaign that has interrupted this notion of inevitibility, that debate was probably it.... Hillary Rodham Clinton has had a difficult relationship to the truth." He says her campaign has been designed to partly to help her avoid such questions, "and now they will have been unsuccessful at avoiding it. And that's what the campaign represents -- a failure to keep that question from coming front and center." LOOK FOR HILLARY CLINTON'S FASCISTIC MOVES TO INTENSIFY. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjMNoCldIMk


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SARASOTA – Insignia Bank has announced the promotion of Tracy Wolfe to Branch Manager of their downtown location. Joining the company in 2006, Tracy has over 13 years of banking experience in the Sarasota area.
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By the way, we went with Benjamin Moore's "Revere Pewter" for our main living spaces and stairwells. I'm really happy with how it turned out---a very soft, light, subtle gray with no blue, purple or green undertones. We are going to do all of the rooms and bathrooms in darker, richer shades of gray so we stay in the family of grays but with a little more drama. The challenge with open-concept living spaces is that a lot of walls connect, so if your main living space is one large room like ours, you have to pick a color that works well with that entire space.
I'll post some better photos when painting is complete.
I thought I'd share some fitting room photos since it's been requested that I put them on my blog more as opposed to just my Facebook page (I tend to share photos and other links there that I don't put on my blog, so if you're interested in that kind of stuff, you can "like" my page here.)
I filmed a haul video on these items yesterday, so I'm including shots of some of the stuff I bought over the last couple of weeks.
By the way, I had some requests to share my more casual outfit iPhone snaps on my blog, too, so here's what I wore on Friday:
Blazer- Express
Jeans- GAP "always skinny"
Necklace- Banana Republic
This was a navy pencil skirt with a pink silk blouse (I liked this one but I didn't get it because I wanted to get my H two pairs of pants and could only get five items total at 50% off,
sometimes we have to sacrifice for our loved ones---LOL, I'm totally kidding!)
These are the Sloane ankle pants in black that I purchased
I need them in more.colors.now.
I also realized I didn't post some photos from a shopping trip
a few weeks ago so I'm adding those as well!
(oh gosh, I need to not to be so lazy and take my jeans off)
These are the Presley Skye dresses from Nordstrom
This is the dress I got at Charlotte Russe a few weeks ago---it doesn't photograph well,
the bottom is actually a different color which is not apparent in the photo.
The jeggings above are the Target ones that have gotten a lot of buzz.
I passed on them, but they are okay. Size way up on these.
PS- here is my haul video!


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Case for e-science studentships at UCL (P.Clarke, S.Bhatti, J.Crowcroft)
We request the award of one or more
e-science studentships to work in the area of high rate data replication and
the network services which are essential to the operation of most, if not all,
Grid applications. This studentship bid is made jointly between the Physics and
Computer Science departments at UCL. The two groups have matched interests,
which provide an excellent base to host studentships to work in an area which
is core to e-science operations and manifestly essential to the delivery of
PPARC objectives. The HEP Physics group brings a very focused application (the
Particle Physics and EU DataGrids) and a demonstrated interest in the
networking issues associated with Grid applications. The Computer Science
department brings a wealth of expertise in the entire area of data transport
protocols, QoS and traffic management techniques, which will underpin all Grid
operations The research programme we are following encompasses
many several key
areas, each of which
will offer a research student (s) will gain valuable and practical experience:
High rate/High volume/Reliable Data
transport applications. Grid data rates will
exceed 100s of Mbit/s over long latency routes. Such transfers will rely upon
the availability of high rate/high volume/reliable data transport applications.
All three elements are key: the combination of rate and volume are clear, but
it is also essential that such applications can recover from faults and
complete the transport. The transport protocols will
also have to deal with efficient replication and update to multiple sites. It
is already apparent that protocols such as "standard" TCP based FTP are
unlikely to be adequate and therefore today we do not know how to satisfy the
DataGrid demands. This is an area where significant work has been done in the
CS community based upon modeling and controlled measurements, however it is
vital to understand these effects in the context of real Grid traffic patterns
running on the
wide area network (WAN ). The work includes measurements and
comparisons to theoretical models; investigation of the suitability of enhanced
TCP based applications (e.g. taking account of explicit knowledge of resource availability and
congestion notification) and addition of reliability strategies to the use of
FTP. In the longer term there are proposals to use non-TCP based transport over
the long haul parts of the route and for multi-site
replication and update. The research will focus upon DataGrid testbed
requirements between UK sites and from UK to CERN and the USA.
QoS and traffic management: Grid operation will require new services of the network fabric. In the immediate future (DataGrid testbeds) there will be need for traffic management mechanisms to provide managed bandwidth over IP. There are various techniques including IP packet classification, DIFFSERV and MPLS, but none have yet been demonstrated in the Grid context and in particular across multiple administrative domains. In this context both groups are involved in a collaborative project involving UCL, Manchester, CLRC, UKERNA and which is being submitted to a leading supplier to the networking industry for support. The project aims to demonstrate traffic management services between main Grid Tier-N sites in the UK using the SuperJANET4 development network, and if possible extend this onward to CERN and the USA. This project will address multiple administrative domain issues and stress such end-to-end services using both pseudo and live Grid traffic. [Note: this work is core to all Grid activities. In this respect we expect to approach both the OST and DTI].
In the longer term Quality of Service
(QoS) provision is probably crucial to HEP applications. QoS depends upon
traffic classification at ingress to the network, and suitable treatment of
aggregated classes at all points within the network. Eventually applications,
which can respond to explicit congestion notification, must be developed.
This Networked systems
using IP is an area where the UCL CS group has wide and internationally recognised expertise (see http://www-mice.ucl.ac.uk/), including active
participation within the IETF.
Network information services: Grid matchmaking services rely upon the availability of resource
information. Such resource information includes knowledge of the static (i.e.
latency, packet loss) and dynamic network conditions (i.e. on demand
measurement of throughput between specific nodes). Both groups
both have
prior experience, which can be used to develop a suitable information service
for the DataGrid. A pilot project is underway to develop an LDAP based
Data management and replication middleware: We are starting work based upon real testbed requirements in 2001, to demonstrate the use of LDAP based meta-data catalogues access to remote data from a local application using Globus services (GASS and GRAM) which link to http, ftp and other transport applications. This work will initially focus on the CDF testbed.
We have a wide programme of work directed at general e-science requirements and is by construction working toward PPARC e-science goals. The PhD studentship programme we propose would give experience in all of these areas through immersion in the combined programme. We envisage that the specific research topic to concentrate upon data transport middleware and protocols, and the provision of network information to the middleware layer. We have also a potential PhD CASE studentship programme concentrating upon the traffic engineering aspects of our programme. This will be the subject of a direct CASE application later but we would readily accommodate this now if more than one studentship is awarded (converting to a CASE later).
The studentships will be jointly supervised by Physics and CS. The academic staff involved are:
Peter Clarke: Reader in Physics, HEP LHC group leader, active in HEP Object Oriented applications and networking for 4 years, EU-DataGrid PTB member and WP7 representative, coordinating UK network fabric activity and working on the PPARC DataGrid proposal.
S.Bhatti: Lecturer in CS, researches into QoS (applications and networks), network management, network security and mobile systems.
J. CrowCroft: Professor in CS. Research in multi-media Communications, traffic engineering and QoS. Member of the ACM and the British Computer Society, a fellow of the IEE and the royal academy of engineering and a Senior Member the IEEE.


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The 2008 October Sky Festival Press Release
2008-09-10 15:34:32
Historic West Virginia Town Gears Up for the 2008 "October Sky Festival"
Featuring Hometown Hero Homer Hickam,
NASA Shuttle Astronaut Tom Jones
COALWOOD, W. Va. – Best-selling author Homer Hickam and three other members of the original "Rocket Boys" made famous by his memoirs and the movie titled October Sky will gather again Saturday, Oct. 4th 2008 for the tenth annual October Sky Festival in the picturesque town of Coalwood, West Virginia. Among the participants will be many of the real people featured in Hickam's "Coalwood" series which includes Rocket Boys/October Sky, The Coalwood Way, Sky of Stone, and We Are Not Afraid.
This year's festival will feature a guest appearance by NASA shuttle astronaut and three-time spacewalker Dr. Tom Jones who will sign copies of his book Sky Walking. He will also pose for pictures and even help launch rockets with students from around the country at Cape Coalwood, the original area where Hickam and his boyhood friends sent their missiles skyward. In more than eleven years with NASA, Jones flew on four space shuttle missions into Earth orbit. On his last flight, he led three spacewalks to install the American Destiny laboratory, considered the centerpiece of the International Space Station,. In total, Dr. Jones has spent fifty-three days working and living in space. A frequent commentator on space subjects for FOX NEWS, Jones also co-authored with Michael Benson The Complete Idiot's Guide to NASA, (Alpha, 2002). Sky Walking: An Astronaut's Memoir, (Smithsonian Books-Collins, 2006) was named one of its "Five Best" books on space by the Wall Street Journal. His newest title is Hell Hawks! The Untold Story of the American Fliers Who Savaged Hitler's Wehrmacht (with Robert F. Dorr; Zenith, 2008).
Attending the festival will also be Grace Corrigan, mother of Challenger teacher-astronaut Christa McAuliffe, and Dreama Denver, widow of actor Bob Denver of the television shows "Gilligan's Island" and "Dobie Gillis" fame. Mrs. Denver will have her husband's delightful memoir Gilligan, Maynard, and Me available for autographs. Other local and national authors will be attending with their books about Coalwood and the people of Appalachia.
Coalwood is located near Bluefield in the rugged mountains of southern West Virginia. Its people look forward to being hosts every year to thousands of guests from across the USA. Many of the structures from 1950's era Coalwood which were pivotal to Rocket Boys/October Sky are still standing, including the miner's clubhouse, Hickam's boyhood home, the company offices, and the machine shop where Hickam, his fellow members of the Big Creek Missile Agency, and company machinists built their highly-advanced rockets which captured a gold medal in the 1960 National Science Fair.
Fans attending this year's tenth annual October Sky Festival will enjoy:
- Rocket launches at nearby "Cape Coalwood" by students from across the U.S. inspired by the book and movie.
- NASA display of a real moon rock!
- Guided trolley tours of Coalwood Main, the rocket launch site at Cape Coalwood and more.
- Live music from performers from across West Virginia
- Authentic classic coal mining museum displays.
- A parade and lots of children's activities in and around Cassell Park, the Coalwood Rocket Boys playground which features a replica of a NASA shuttle.
There will be food and a festive family atmosphere all day near the height of fall foliage in West Virginia.
Hickam currently lives in Huntsville Alabama -- "Rocket City USA" -- with wife Linda. Besides Rocket Boys, he is the author of nine other books, including the "Josh Thurlow" series of WWII adventures, the "Coalwood" series, and Back to the Moon. His latest novel, Red Helmet, will be available at the festival. Red Helmet is a beautifully-told love story set in the modern day West Virginia coalfields. Hickam is also working with New York producers on a big new Broadway musical based on Rocket Boys.
More information is available about The 2008 October Sky Festival Saturday October 4th in Coalwood WV at http://www.homerhickam.com/coalwood.
To arrange interviews with Homer Hickam,Rocket Boys Roy Lee Cooke, Billy Rose, and O'Dell Carroll, NASA shuttle astronaut Tom Jones, or Dreama Denver, contact Burke Allen at Allen Media Strategies in Washington DC at (703) 589-8960 or http://www.allenmediastrategies.com . A TV "B" roll package can also be requested. Because of Coalwood's mountainous location, cell phone use is limited on site; advance phone line requests for live radio broadcasts on the day of the event is recommended.
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Graveside services for Ralph Clayton Housh of Chadron, Nebraska will be held on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM at Greenwood Cemetery in Chadron with Dr. Russ Seger officiating.
Mr. Housh passed away on May 18, 2013 at Crestview Care Center in Chadron.
Ralph was born on September 5, 1923 in Chadron, Nebraska.
He was 87.
His survivors include:
Brother: Don Housh of Chadron
Daughters: Linda Housh of Denver, Colorado, and Judy (Danny) McMahon of Omaha
Grandchildren: Charlsey and Ian McMahon of Omaha
Donations may be sent to Chamberlain Chapel, PO Box 970, Chadron, Ne, 69337.
Online Condolences can be made at www.chamberlainchapel.com
Chamberlain Chapel of Chadron is in charge of arrangements


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I am not sure it is fair to say that Vasek hasn't had the support of Tennis Canada. My sense was that for a long time he chose to go his own way with his father as coach (you have to believe he could have joined the NTC when it opened, if he had wanted to). Vasek was invited early on to the Davis Cup team. At a certain point he got displaced by Milos, but in retrospect, that was probably a fair decision, based on type of game and also mental suitability for playing important matches (Vasek has shown some tendency to falter when he gets close to the finish line).
Tennis Canada has been trying to encourage young players to make a base in Montreal. Milos and Rebecca went along with that, but maybe it didn't suit Vasek. Now it seems like he is at least spending a good bit of time there.
In short, I am suggesting that maybe it is Vasek changing his thinking, more than Tennis Canada.
Anyway, great week for Vasek. Hopefully this will inspire him for a productive tour in Korea.
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Hey Rosie,
i tried hard to come in contact with you, but i dunno why, there isn't any way. So this is my last try .
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