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Friday, April 9, 2010
they don't call it the beatdown for nothing
She is reacting to this, which she doesn't link to. Ordinarily, people are shy about letting their animal insecurity out, on the Internet. I mean, this post from her-- it is literally saying, "I am good, and people like me, and I am smart and funny." We all have that need. I do, you do, we all do. We all want to be known that way. Sometimes, we have to express it by equally expressing that someone else is bad, or below us. I try to avoid it, but who am I to stand on pretense? If it empowers Sady to question my sexual prowess, then perhaps it's better that she say so. It leaves me little poorer. And if her commenters really get their kicks by saying I should rot in hell, then, you know, progress!
Now, on the subject of traffic, and such-- I am glad for Sady. I am glad that she is successful. As she implies, at this, I am not successful. Not in the traffic sense. Not in the attention sense. Certainly not in the monetary sense, but then, I am not a professional blogger, pundit, commentator, or journalist. It's just me. I'm glad that she gives praise to the men she admires. I don't know, exactly, what that has to do against my post. Really, I think she is doing exactly what I suggested she not do. I think she is reading my post in short-hand, as many do, and I don't think it says nearly anything that she is arguing against. That's just my take, but then, I am arguing, and her post and comments insists that she does not want to be held to the standards of argument.
Here is this reality: the world is not friendly to women, and it is not friendly to feminism, and so the fight is difficult. Now, if that post of Sady's were to find attention outside of the little world it occupies-- 100,000 hits a day, now, don't get me wrong! Sady is a big fucking deal, as she will tell you-- if it went out into the Out There, I think she would find it uncomfortable. Because many would not be kind. Why? Because Out There, they believe that ideas must be defended with rigor, that there is, actually, something like a rational argument, and that advancing your cause is dependent on that argument. And some of the people who would read her post are most assuredly and most explicitly not feminists. Sady insists that I am no feminist, because she says so, and she has the power to dole that appellation out to whomever she chooses. Fair enough. But surely even if my feminism is illegitimate or fake, that's superior to the reactionary anti-feminism that is all around her. Posts like the one she wrote contribute to many, many noxious stereotypes about feminists, and I wish she would have waited, a bit, and thought it through just a bit more.
The sad truth is that inertia alone is enough to leave the world in the condition that Sady doesn't want it to be, and for this reason she will have to work harder and better, and from my limited, low-traffic, (apparently) not getting laid perspective, a post like the one she has posted can't help her. But then, I would say that, wouldn't I? I am the one being put on blast, after all.
Look, this is the thing: here I am. Here I am. That is my whole point to the enterprise. You want to chat? Here I am. I don't have an institutional affiliation to protect me; I don't have a lot of traffic to protect me, I don't have anonymity to protect me, I don't have the benefit of putting on the mantle of some great movement against oppression to protect me. I am willing to talk, and willing to listen. So: what do you want to talk about?
Update: Per the update on that post-- it's true that I did used to occasionally email Megan Carpentier about Jezebel posts back when she wrote for them. The point wasn't to tell her she was mean, although I'm sure I often did do that. The point was that I thought from her writing that she was smart and funny and for that reason I felt I should email her to let her know when I thought Jezebel was being unfair. And, you know, it's true-- I did and do often think that Jezebel is being unfair.
Maybe that's wrong of me. I don't know. And it could easily be the case that my emails to Megan, like my comment to Sady, weren't sufficiently constructive. But whatever is true, it was true that I was emailing her because I cared about what she thought. And it is true that I engaged with Tiger Beatdown because I value it. I am committed to the proposition that I am wrong about all of this. I am trying. I am trying hard. But it is difficult to read that I should be derided for opinions that I don't hold, that I should be attacked for what I don't think. And, of course, on a human level, it's tough to be made fun of.
44 comments:
- Evan Harper said...
I shouldn't need to tell you that you came out of this one looking rather better.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:03 PM
"But surely even my illegitimate, fake feminism that Sady derides is superior to the reactionary anti-feminism that is all around her."
I was open to what you were saying until that part.
Look, I'm not comfortable making a declaration about your feminist status. If you call yourself a feminist, good for you; I can't comment on your "credentials."
But, in my humble opinion, "fake feminism" is just as bad as open misogyny. By "fake feminism" I'm going to ascribe "thoughtless feminism," "name-drop feminism," meaning that philosophy which is not actively seeking the freedom and equality for all people but is instead focused on promoting the well-being of the name-dropper. This can be a privileged "feminist" who only cares about her own choices and freedom, or (as probably more relevant to the other comment thread) perhaps a man who wants validation from empowered women to assure himself that he is not sexist.
Your original comment, in my opinion, was kind of thoughtless. I do think Sady should be able to use comedy to make points about activism, especially since it defies the myriad stereotypes that feminists are humorless. If your intention was instead to say, "I think you're being mean-spirited here, and that reduces the significance of discourse," then that is entirely different. But your exact meaning has yet to be clarified in that way.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:20 PM
- Freddie said...
OK, if I'm reading you correctly, you're misreading me, I'm sure because of my own inability to articulate. When I say my feminism is fake, I mean that according to Sady, it is fake. I don't think it's fake; I think it's very real. I'll amend the post to make it more clear.
As for my comment, it wasn't constructive. I'm sorry for that. But it was an honest reaction to what I thought was a very mean post. And that's what you get on the Internet: your own attitude reflected back at you.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:23 PM
I don't understand how these women can hold up irrationality, emotionalism, fear, disgust, anger, and (frankly) shrillness as some sort of impenetrable feminist stance. Oh, and boner jokes. Can't forget a nice smattering of boner jokes, it's just the thing to make a feminist stance dignified.
I think you are giving these people too much time. Sady's roused hatred out of thin air for things you never even said, and you're getting a shit ton of flak for being right (as per usual). Tiger Beatdown is a terrible blog and Sady is a terrible writer. Everyone worthwhile would get their internet feminisms elsewhere.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:38 PM
I think my only point is only that it's important for men (self-proclaimed feminist or otherwise) to understand the gravity of their statements when they even appear to be critiquing a woman's feminism, because that is supposed to be a sphere in which their voices are allowed to be heard, undiluted.
That said, I do want to thank you for being open to criticism and discourse despite the current situation. I'd also like to encourage you not to delete your blog but instead continue to grow and share.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:39 PM
- hantavirus said...
Sady is pretty full of herself a lot of the time. Now, people who are full of themselves are pretty cool when they're right, but when they're wrong, as is obviously the case here, they suddenly become insufferable.
- April 9, 2010 at 6:39 PM
What she -and her commenters- wrote was entirely below the belt (excuse the double meaning), and I hope you are not depressed or discouraged by such vileness.
- April 9, 2010 at 7:36 PM
- bcg said...
Your grace under fire here is exceptionally admirable and greatly recommends your character.
- April 9, 2010 at 7:54 PM
- Mary said...
Let me preface by saying that I really, truly, am not trying to feed the flames. I'm not particularly invested in either your or Sady's blogs. I am mostly interested in this because the dynamics mirror conversations that happen in my grad program on a daily basis.
What I find really interesting about today's kerfluffle is the contrast between your blog posts and your comments on Tiger Beatdown. To the casual (but interested) reader, your own blog posts come across as thoughtful, sincere, and (it must be said) a bit pompous. I tend toward pomposity myself, so I can't fault you for that. But yeah, you seem to care about this stuff and to want to do the right thing.
Your comments on Sady's blog, on the other hand, are frankly insulting on a number of levels.
1) Your original complaint--in the comment, not the blog post to which you link--is, if I understand it rightly, that packaging serious conversation within a discourse of humor robs it of intellectual vigor. I take strong objection to that, actually, and for what it's worth, I make my living trafficking in academic dialogue. It's called satire, it's been around forever, and it's in no way at odds with intellectual rigor--there are other genres than the philosophical treatise.
2) Sady chose to respond to you, not in your preferred mode of discourse, but in hers. Yes, she was more openly insulting than you were. But to my mind, the logical implications of your comment are deeply insulting. Essentially, you were telling her--on her own space, as you acknowledged--that her entire enterprise was useless and unworthy of the time of thoughtful people. By responding in the manner she did, she made explicit the nature of the hostilities that you had implicitly begun.
3)You responded to her comment with the following: "you aren't capable of defending your ideas," "you are...incapable of engaging rationally," and "you post with such obvious insecurity, emotionalism, and spite..." For one thing, resorting to name-calling was a tactical error. Whatever high road you may have had was gone right there. For another, I think you again misunderstood the nature of the argument. Essentially, you were saying, "I get to choose the terms and mode of discourse," and she was saying, "um, no. You don't."
4)Your criticisms were not constructive. I'm sorry, they just weren't. The blog post to which you linked did seem to me to have some interesting and thought-provoking comments; but what you put on Tiger Beatdown was condescending and dismissive.
That's how I saw it going down, anyway.
- April 9, 2010 at 8:02 PM
I had a whole thing up here but there's a character limit.
In short, everything you say is overly-defensive, and you are obviously hurting because of the (valid, IMO) accusation that you are not a good feminist ally yet.
You hide behind what you think is sophisticated-sounding grammar, and "polite" sentences. You are pretentious. You are telling the oppressed to be more polite (which is equivalent to saying "play by my rules or I won't listen to you"). I've read your post over 3 times, and as a member of the vagina-enabled section of the population who identifies as female, I must say, you are a terrible feminist ally.
If you'd like a whole break down give me a higher character limit.
-First time Sady reader, long time feminist blog reader.
- April 9, 2010 at 8:19 PM
- Freddie said...
Essentially, you were telling her--on her own space, as you acknowledged--that her entire enterprise was useless and unworthy of the time of thoughtful people
But that isn't true, of course. I'm not saying essentially that, or that at all. I've laid out what I think in some detail. All of the strawmanning really just causes me to tune you out.
Yes, it's true, I was not very constructive in my original comment. For that I'm sorry. And in my first response comment to that long piece, I was being defensive. Wouldn't you be? There's a real contradiction going on here; people keep saying that I have to let Sady interact in her own way, through emotionalism, mean-spiritedness and personal insults, but then tell me that I am insufficiently constructive. Is that really fair? Or am I really to take it that I have to comport myself with a completely different level of discussion than she does? Then all the negative commenters do?
Now I'm sorry if the logic of my response was insulting. I tried to apologize repeatedly. And you know what? She changed those apologies and attempts at engagement to "BONERS". All of them. Are you really defending that? Really? Is this discussion really meant to operate under those conditions?
- April 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM
- Freddie said...
In short, everything you say is overly-defensive, and you are obviously hurting because of the (valid, IMO) accusation that you are not a good feminist ally yet.
I am hurting, it's true. But is that what I am being told, that I am a bad feminist ally? I'm very willing to entertain that notion, but I don't know how when it is surrounded by jokes about my sex life, or commenters literally telling me to rot in hell. I mean that-- I literally don't know how to have the constructive conversation you would like me to have under those conditions.
You hide behind what you think is sophisticated-sounding grammar, and "polite" sentences. You are pretentious. You are telling the oppressed to be more polite (which is equivalent to saying "play by my rules or I won't listen to you"). I've read your post over 3 times, and as a member of the vagina-enabled section of the population who identifies as female, I must say, you are a terrible feminist ally.
I'm sure I'm pretentious. I don't think I sound sophisticated; I write how I write, that's all. I thought the whole point of Sady's post attacking me, and the comments attached to it-- besides all the boner talk-- was that Sady has the right to write the way she wants to. Do I not have that right myself?
- April 9, 2010 at 8:34 PM
"We all want to be known that way. Sometimes, we have to express it by equally expressing that someone else is bad, or below us. I try to avoid it, but who am I to stand on pretense?"
Holy hypocrisy, Batman. If you tried to avoid it, this post wouldn't exist.
"I don't understand how these women can hold up irrationality, emotionalism, fear, disgust, anger, and (frankly) shrillness as some sort of impenetrable feminist stance."
Every single one of those things is PERPETUALLY used to discredit women for anything they have to say. If you can't come up with a new critique, let the sexists with more creativity take over.
- April 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM
- Danton said...
Amy wrote: it's important for men... to understand the gravity of their statements when they even appear to be critiquing a woman's feminism, because that is supposed to be a sphere in which their voices are allowed to be heard, undiluted.
Mary wrote: Essentially, you were saying, "I get to choose the terms and mode of discourse," and she was saying, "um, no. You don't."
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding these comments. The point is not, presumably, just that it's her blog and she has the right to say and censor whatever she likes. Everyone can agree with that and it has nothing to with feminism. The point seems to be rather that, as a woman, she is normatively entitled to decide what does and does not count as a valid contribution when it comes to discussing feminist concerns; an entitlement which men lack.
If that's a fair way of putting the issue, then I think Freddie is right to suggest that restricting the notion of what counts as a valid contribution in this way is ultimately counter-productive. The discourse of feminism would then become an exclusive activity for women, with no normative implications beyond that closed circle. It certainly wouldn't have anything to offer those people "who pursue equity and liberation" (as Freddie puts it), because questions of truth, sincerity, and moral justification - i.e. the standards of rational discourse - would be subordinated to the demands of the speaker whose utterances may simply be false, insincere and morally objectionable.
It may be that there is a dimension to rational discourse which goes missing in the standard definition I invoke above, and which feminism seeks to capture via the experience of those who are not men. I think Freddie makes it clear that he is open this possibility. But surely this doesn't involve the arbitrary restriction of what counts as a valid contribution. By simply dismissing Freddie's point without reasons, Sady is not invoking some higher rationality. She is abandoning rationality altogether - which might be fun for her and her readers, but who would want to identify such an exercise with feminism?
- April 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM
"Every single one of those things is PERPETUALLY used to discredit women for anything they have to say. If you can't come up with a new critique, let the sexists with more creativity take over."
Yes, I am fully aware of that. The sad part is, these people are acting a horrible stereotype. They are piling on the strawfeminism. They are ignoring everything that is being said and making fucking boner jokes. I don't need creativity here, and I don't need a new critique. They do.
- April 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM
Actually, that definitely was not my intention with my comment. It's not that men cannot participate in feminist discourse or that they cannot criticize constructively---it's that men need to be aware of the silencing techniques used against women that are apparently ingrained in debate rhetoric. For instance, the "your humor is ruining your credibility as a feminist" implication of his original comment (sorry to keep bringing that up, Freddie, as I'm aware that you've apologized and asked for constructive criticism; just using it as an example). Another example is "You're emotional, so you're not a good feminist." someone telling a woman that she doesn't understand feminist discourse is kinda ironic when the speaker is using sexist ideas. That's the point. Not that men can't comment. Simply that, like the women they're criticizing, the implications of what they're saying should be considered.
In actuality, my comment about the sphere of feminism allowing a safe space for female voices really wasn't meant to directly defend Sady's follow-up post, which is inappropriately personal and cruel. Sorry if that message was conveyed. Do I further think that feminism should allow a safe space for male voices, as well? Yes, because feminism=equality. But, keep in mind--a cis man's voice is given credibility in the rest of the world. A feminist sphere is just about the only place a woman is given the same treatment. That's why it's important for men to not silence women when it comes to feminism.
- April 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM
- Freddie said...
Holy hypocrisy, Batman. If you tried to avoid it, this post wouldn't exist.
Am I really expected not to defend myself at all, or try to make my position understood?
Every single one of those things is PERPETUALLY used to discredit women for anything they have to say. If you can't come up with a new critique, let the sexists with more creativity take over.
But sometimes, it can be true that women are these things, right? And telling someone to rot in hell, or making repeated jokes about his sex life, or deleting his comments and replacing them with an epithet-- that fits the bill, wouldn't you say?
- April 9, 2010 at 10:13 PM
- Girl About (Oak) Town said...
Freddie and his supporters are kind of missing the point here.
I am new to Sadie (and Freddie), and so far what I've read of her seems extremely self-obsessed even for a blogger, which is saying something. I think she makes good points and is very funny and but my enjoyment of such things is mitigated by the "look at how awesome i am/not like those other awful white cis etc feminists" which really just seems to be building herself up at the expense of the marginalized women that she is allied with.
THAT SAID, dude, you are clearly being a douche here. In the most basic way a feminist-identified guy can be a douche, and it's something every single feminist has encountered a gazillion times while dealing with guys, which is why the reaction to your extremely privileged and shockingly un-self-aware blog entries and comments has been so swift, mocking, and dismissive. We've heard it all a thousand times before.
If you're really interested in hearing, from a feminist perspective, how you fucked up here, from someone with no horse in this race, I'm bored and don't mind engaging at this particular time. If you're not, please don't pretend that you are.
- April 9, 2010 at 10:19 PM
The problem here lies in one man's gross sense of entitlement, and an obnoxious blogger's, er, *obnoxious* response to the expression of that entitlement.
The excessively drawn out post that sparked this internet nonsense can be boiled down to a simple "Hey, I'm a feminist (sorta) too, and I deserve to be an equal part of this discussion! Let me speak too!" line of reasoning. What should have been a introspective look at why Freddie feels so goddamn entitled to make his voice heard in feminist circles was dwarfed by his rampant selfishness--a true expression, and embrace, of his own privilege.
What I mean is that Freddie uses his original post to deride feminist circles that don't actively seek his input--which is basically an expression of a pompous sense of entitlement. This whole situation would have been more interesting if Freddie interrogated why he feels so entitled to make his voice heard on issues of feminism, instead of relying on what appears to be a pervasive narcism. Think carefully about why you think women should be listening to you on issues of feminism before you blast them for not embracing your profound input.
- April 9, 2010 at 10:55 PM
- Evan Harper said...
It's as if they heard Freddie to say, "I, a man, am exactly as qualified in every respect to understand issues of gender discrimination as any woman, and no aspect of the issue could ever be less-than-fully-graspable to me for lack of direct experience."
This would of course be wrong, but Freddie did not say this. Freddie did not say anything resembling this. Freddie very deliberately went out of his way to disavow this. Nothing about Freddie's argument implies that he thinks this, or necessarily rests upon this proposition.
I read Freddie saying something like, "While my maleness is certainly relevant here, and it is absolutely possible that my positioning has led me to fail to grasp the issue here, the mere fact of my being a man cannot be used as some sort of magic conversation-stopper; the arguments that lead us to conclude that gender hierarchies should be abolished are rational arguments, and that means that they are accessible to every rational subject, even ones with penises attached to them."
Now, if someone seriously disagrees with this second point, I am surprised, and I would like to hear what they have to say. But a lot of people in this thread seem to be attacking the first point, which is irrelevant.
- April 9, 2010 at 11:22 PM
- hekatesgal said...
As an ancient wizened feminist I must point out that in regards to point 2 of Evan's this is always what "feminist" men say they are saying even when they have demonstrated no interest in actually listening to women. That is the first line of defensiveness. (word choice intentional.) If Sady's blog is as worthless as you think it is why bother to engage with her? I find her amusing but certainly not Simone de Beauvoir. And you seem to be veiling aggression with polite tones. "Of course I could be wrong (but I'm not.)" In short I think this sums it all nicely "And that's what you get on the Internet: your own attitude reflected back at you."
I apologize for the lack of commas - my keyboard has decided I no longer need commas.
- April 10, 2010 at 12:26 AM
- Evan Harper said...
You imply that self-proclaimedly feminist men may be ignored, because they always say the same thing, even when they have demonstrated no interest in listening to women.
Let us say, for argument's sake, that an antifeminist right-winger were to say, "feminist women may be ignored, because they always say the same thing, even when they have demonstrated no interest in listening to men."
Now, would you accept that as a knock-down argument against feminism? Would you sneer at the hapless ignorant feminist women who presumed to natter on about "oppression" and "patriarchy" and "discrimination," even after your learned interlocutor had cunningly observed that "feminist women may be ignored, because they always say the same thing, even when they have demonstrated no interest in listening to men?"
If your answer is no, as it should be, then I assert: you have a responsibility to explain why your answer is no, in a manner that is accessible not just to yourself and to your little circle of e-friends, but to everyone who might give a damn.
And this leads me to assert that your mere broadside denunciation of Freddie isn't good enough; you can't merely insist that he is a "typical man" making some fallacious argument that you've long since refuted -- you have to actually fucking explain yourself.
I don't want to hear your complaints about his tone. I don't want to hear your insinuations about his motives. I want to hear your refutation of his actual argument.
I'm waiting.
- April 10, 2010 at 1:27 AM
This is how I interpreted Freddie's orginial comment at Tiger Beatdown:
1. The style of your blog is ineffective in my opinion. I think you would be better served to write in another manner [implicitly, one that I find acceptable].
2. But it's your blog.
3. Any feminist that wouldn't date a man because he doesn't ascribe to her idea of feminism is SELFISH and ARROGANT.
Useless and NOT something an ally says. Who gets to be the whistle-blower of feminism? No one, officially. But it's generally understood that good allies 1. don't insert themselves into a conversation in which they are part of the group of oppressors rather than the oppressed, and 2. don't suggest that they should be congratulated for being an ally (ESPECIALLY when they're not that oppressed groups'd idea of a good ally).
This applies to any group. I could not go to a race-issues blog or a queer-issues blog (and the list goes on) and say, "Hey, I don't find your chosen mode of discourse legitimate, and because I have a sense of authority regarding what is and isn't acceptable, you should listen to me! Plus, I SAY I'm an ally, so you can't tell me I'm not doing a good job!" It just doesn't work like that. And whether or not that's how you meant it, that's how it sounded.
- April 10, 2010 at 4:03 AM
- Danton said...
Thanks for clarifying. I can appreciate what you're saying. Any discussion or debate has to be conducted in the spirit of mutual respect. And so I agree that anyone incapable of showing due respect to the concerns of their feminist interlocutors does not have a right to be taken seriously by feminists. I'm not sure that entirely explains what is going on here, though. I suspect Sady at least expects men like Freddie to show respect for her feminist views by refraining from criticism. In which case, it's no wonder that Sady & co. have nothing but contempt for a man who expresses solidarity with feminism: either it is a sincere but empty gesture, because in their view it entails agreeing with their stated positions, or else it is insincere and condescending.
- April 10, 2010 at 6:59 AM
Evan, you can miss me with your tailor-made-for-the-Internet "Can't you just be rational!" line of argument. The sense of intellectual superiority is dauntingly arrogant. Assuming you are the lone arbiter and judge on "rationality" is ridiculous, especially when it comes to social issues, which rarely follow some nonsensical philosophical conception of rationality.
- April 10, 2010 at 9:20 AM
"The sad part is, these people are acting a horrible stereotype."
That's not the question, is it? It's like when you call a black person "angry." It's irrelevant whether or not they are - because all humans can express a full-range of emotions - it's that throwing that up as your defense is a silencing technique. Get over yourself. You're not all cool because you've chosen a side in an internet shitshow.
"Holy hypocrisy, Batman. If you tried to avoid it, this post wouldn't exist.
Am I really expected not to defend myself at all, or try to make my position understood?" ...That's not the question, is it? You took my comment out of context. You've established now two posts where you actively place her "beneath" you. That is hypocritical, when you contend that she shouldn't have devoted a post to your ignorance.
- April 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM
- Freddie said...
You took my comment out of context. You've established now two posts where you actively place her "beneath" you. That is hypocritical, when you contend that she shouldn't have devoted a post to your ignorance.
I'm sorry, but this is just untrue from top to bottom. I am not saying that she is beneath me. I have said no such thing. I am explicitly, openly and passionately denying that here. Secondly, I have never said that she shouldn't have devoted a post to my ignorance. I am very, very happy to have a post devoted to my ignorance. A post that questions my sexual desirability and talks about how I am a nothing and a nobody is not a post that is going to provoke much education. And you know that. You do. I'm sorry that you are so stuck in opposition, but it's not fair to attack me for things that I am not saying.
As an aside, is it wrong to say that someone is beneath you? Or is it only wrong when I supposedly do it to her? I am saying, again, that I am not above her. She is most certainly and explicitly saying that about me. So why aren't you criticizing her for doing that to me, explicitly? Where are your criticisms of her?
- April 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM
- Jennifer said...
You seem like a decent enough guy. Even though your comments themselves weren't really as offensive as all that, they did come off as a potent mix of concern trolling and mansplaining. I know a lot of smart dudes, and I've noticed that even for the nice and well-meaning ones this stuff is really easy to do. But, feminist women have to deal with it a LOT, both on and off the internet, so they ended up being the straw that made the camel's back explode.
Anyway, it would probably do well to examine your privilege more before you post a critique in a feminist (or any other oppressed group's) space. A lot of the things you've said are common silencing techniques - women are already discouraged from using humor or anger in discourse, and then pulling out the "irrationality" argument doesn't help. When women recognize the tactics that have been used to discredit their thoughts so many times before, the move to anger is very fast. What's more, as someone who's followed Sady's writing for a while I've noticed that she's actually pretty good about being called out when she's showing actual privilege (an example that comes to mind is the comment thread of this recent post) so that made your comment look kind of ignorant.
Internet pile-ons make me wince, so I guess what I'm saying is, even though I do think the anger being directed your way right now is pretty disproportional, there's a lot of context for it. Don't take it personally, but trying to make that anger seem illegitimate will not make things any better.
- April 10, 2010 at 4:08 PM
" but trying to make that anger seem illegitimate will not make things any better."
Exactly. Everything about Jennifer's comment is a really good summary of the situation.
- April 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Sweetheart, if you're saying that Sady is empowered by mocking your sexual prowess and in nearly the same breath say that you are above such tactics, that's pretty straightforwardly indicating that you think you're better than her.
This entire post is your proselytization for why you're better than Sady. Are you kidding? Do you think just because you choose wordy prose over conciseness that this is lost upon your readers?
Here's what's completely lost on you: Sady is not the face of feminism. She is a feminist. She is not responsible to you or to other feminists or to anyone other than herself. When she discusses her experiences dating so-called male feminists, you have no right to question it. Why? The arrogance that you have to suggest that your perceptions are more important than her lived experience is a giant roadblock to discourse. That's why.
Sady's blog is HER blog. It is not THE blog of Feminism (TM). Incidentally, any real feminist would recognize that Sady has every right to express herself in any way she so chooses, even if those are the choices you would not have made yourself. This, incidentally, goes for all the women upstream that somehow think their choices need to be Sady's choices for it to count as feminism.
As it is her blog, she is not obligated to indulge anyone but herself. You insulted her. Get over it. She chose to insult you too. You aren't entitled to answers just because you're trying to be an "ally." That's what google is for.
- April 10, 2010 at 11:05 PM
- Nick C said...
After condensing down arguments from all sides, I have concluded that the appropriate thing for Freddie to do according to Sady is stop being an apologist and verbally bitch-slap her, thus validating her blogging style. This would also serve to immediately destroy the argument that his purpose for being a self-described feminist is to get laid.
He should do so in the rudest, crudest way possible, such that it cannot be argued that he is pretending to be polite while actually being insulting. References should be made to her genitalia and lack of sexual prowess.
Finally, he should finish up with, "Just kidding."
I forgot to mention that it is best to act as stereotypically MAN as possible, and if called out on such, well, you know.
- April 11, 2010 at 12:48 AM
"it's that throwing that up as your defense is a silencing technique."
One, no it wasn't. I'm just calling it childish and stupid. And two, what the hell do you call making boner jokes in lieu of an actual discussion?
- April 11, 2010 at 6:39 AM
wolf-alice, please educate yourself on silencing techniques. Run on out and google "De-railing techniques." You can do it! "...irrationality, emotionalism, fear, disgust, anger..." They're pretty much all up there as ways to shut out women.
She doesn't have to explain why she's doing something in her own space to you. That doesn't make her irrational. She's allowed to be emotional, express disgust and anger. That's not a good enough reason to ignore the point she was making - which you're still conveniently forgetting. And fear? Ha. Get over yourself, kiddo.
And what Sady's doing? I would call it refusing to have a conversation with someone who you've repeatedly told to stop coming into your space and pestering you - which was what Freddie was doing. I don't care if it's not to your liking. See my above post.
- April 11, 2010 at 9:57 AM
So, Freddie, do you have any opinion on this new "male studies" permutation of academic gender studies and how it differs from mens studies, which has already existed for years? Because that's what the discussion into which you inserted yourself was actually about.
Protip: Next time you comment on someone's blog, if you don't want them to think you're just there to hijack the discussion and make it all about you, try commenting on the actual post.
- April 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Femminism is another God that Failed.
See birthrate, The West.
Sady and Sadist are close linguistically speaking...
- April 11, 2010 at 2:55 PM
"Posts like the one she wrote contribute to many, many noxious stereotypes about feminists, and I wish she would have waited, a bit, and thought it through just a bit more."
GOD you are pathetic. really, honey? you're concern trolling, being condescending, and still claiming to be a feminist? go on and say what you're dancing around. you're calling her a hysterical female.
everyone on this blog who actually thinks you respect women is a sad little dupe. keep on drinking the kool aid, kids. this guy is not on the side of good. he flaunts his Superior Male Rationality, when all he has to offer is pretentious bullshit. not using the word 'fuck' doesn't make anyone superior. i know this is shocking, little one, but passion and logic do go hand in hand. it's what makes for a good feminist, not one who has little to offer but overdone prose that he supposes will trick people into thinking he's deep.
really, you're not. at all. you're horrible transparent, and talking about women as if they're three is not to be commended.
shorter me = you're an idiot.
i'll be curious to see if you actually post this comment.
- April 11, 2010 at 4:46 PM
also, yes, your 'feminism' is absolutely fake. i guess some women are so used to being talked down to they accept it. that actually is the sad part.
- April 11, 2010 at 4:47 PM
- Brennan said...
You didn't like [BONER]? Here's a newsflash: women don't like [IRRATIONAL]. Sady showed you, in the most explicit way possible, exactly what it feels like to construct an argument, present it in the public sphere, and immediately have it labelled inconsequential. Nothing of significance here. You can keep griping or you can close your eyes, think real hard, and try to reach past your privilege for long enough to at least understand what you did to make her so pissed off.
- April 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM
Hi, Freddie. Instead of getting theoretical, I'm going to tell you about an experience I had yesterday, since it will be illustrative. To offer some background, I happen to be a white, cissexual, bi, gender questioning woman from a major East Coast city, 36 years of age. Although I came out over 20 years ago as bi and subsequently immersed myself in lesbian culture at an Ivy League university, it took me years following that to get to a point of intellectual maturity sufficient to understand the concepts basic to second wave feminist and gender studies. This is because my formal education did not emphasize (actually avoided) that branch of thought. As far as issues affecting other marginalized groups, the discussion of racism missed my examination on any deep level until I found myself a "minority" amongst people of color in graduate school at a HBC in Washington, DC. Issues of transgender? Relatively recently examined. This despite that over the past 15+ years I discovered that trans people not only exist, but that they are my friends. On occasion they have been my lovers. I've taken the time to do a bit of reading on the subject (Julia Serrano etc.). However this doesn't mean that I know it all when it comes to the issues of transfemale feminists, for example. And so much to my surprise, a comment I made yesterday on a (transwoman) friend's blog met with some dismay, disgust, and anger by her fellow transwoman friends. I got called out. The people who called me out were not nice. They were disdainful. They told me to get a fucking clue. They said, "Ew." These were not intellectual debates they were offering. So at first I was confused and felt attacked for no reason. I defended myself, saying I was an ally. Then when one of them elucidated the issue further, I backed up. I understood that regardless of my intent, I had made a comment that marginalized transwomen and devalued their experience. Once I got over my ego reaction, I understood that it was right for me to back up and apologize and promise to listen and learn more, instead of presuming I knew the right way to speak and act and talk about trans inclusive feminism. Yes, those women were mean and angry. But it didn't mean they weren't right. I needed to back off and understand that they knew what the discussion was about in a way that I could not. As an ally, I needed to be humble. And no, they haven't come forward to tell me it's all OK and forgiven, but they don't owe me jack shit. They are more oppressed than I am and know more than I do in this regard and it's not their job to make me feel better after I (however inadvertently!) dropped a shit sandwich on their plate. This is an anecdote, but as mentioned initially, I hope it was illustrative as an analogy to what you experienced on Tiger Beatdown. I got off easy. You didn't. Sorry, man. That happens.
- April 12, 2010 at 2:28 AM
Freddie- you are a huge fucking loser. Suck it up.
- April 12, 2010 at 3:14 PM
- Alexandra Erin said...
Freddie, it's all very well and good for you to say here on your blog that no one reads that the world isn't very nice or friendly towards women, but the next time you go comment on a feminist woman's blog, make sure you tell her that.
I'm sure this revelation which no woman--least of all feminists--can possibly be as cognizant of as you are will be exactly the piece of evidence needed to make the obvious wisdom of your contributions snap into place.
Really, the poor grace with which Sady received your commentary is even more in evidence when we compare her overblown reaction to the quiet acceptance which John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and the heirs of Jonathan Swift and Mark Twain obviously received the advice I know that you sent them about mixing humor with serious social subjects.
After all, your point was about how humor and seriousness shouldn't be mixed, not about how women should shut the fuck up or anything misogynistic like that.
- April 23, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Ugh, I just can't bring myself to read the writing of anyone who doesn't know the difference between "then" and "than".
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This is good advise guys. You don't want to go to jail for something as stupid as this. When I was much younger, and had half my brain up my butt, I came real close. I had an unregistered WWII .45 acp under the front seat of my car. Nothing could happen.... right? Wrong! I was pulled over for a simple traffic violation and the pistol was discovered. This was in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey. The offense carried a mandatory one year prison sentence. Eighteen years old and facing a mandatory prison sentence in Rahway, isn't where you want your life going. I really lucked out and was able to get the charges dropped, but it could just as easily have gone the other way. No freedom, no guns EVER, a past felony conviction following me around the rest of my life. So think twice, and don't do the dumb thing. IT AIN'T WORTH IT!
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Crux Ansata second-in-command Killian O'Neal has a plan. The governor's son, Neith, has been enslaved in a high-end brothel. Killian's going to break him out, take him home and collect a reward. It's a daring mercenary rescue. What could go wrong?
A lot, as it turns out. The governor doesn't want his son back, the ship and crew are on the run from the slavers, and Neith is in withdrawal from a drug that instills in him a desperate lust.
A passionate heat flares between Killian and Neith - but is it just the effects of the drugs still in Neith's system, or could it be something more permanent? They both need time to figure out if what they have is real - but Neith has taken a valuable item from his old masters and they're not going to let him go easily. When the slavers catch up with the Ansata, Killian will have to choose between the safety of his ship and its crew, or life with the man he's falling in love with.
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I really enjoy the world of books! Narration just add layers to that world... don't u think? :)
I actually returned book 1, then went back and bought it again and gave book 1 another try after listening to book 2 all the way through... Book 1 was actually really good. I guess I was super distracted the first time. I am so glad I gave it another try. This one was even better than book 1. Great sequal. Jack LeFleur is a really good narrator. I like the voices he used in this series because he just continues from book 1. Cookie, Jared Torrin and every all have the same voices from book 1, so I felt like I knew all the characters right away just from their voices. Great Great Job!
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"OK story with great narrator"
This is a sweet, fun, uncomplicated story with a great narration. 3.5 stars for the story and 5 for the narrator, Jack Le Fleur. He can take a mediocre story and bring it to a new level. I didn't read/listen to the first book, but didn't think it affected my enjoyment of the story at all.
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Book 2 of the series and I enjoyed following the characters first met in Book 1. Another outstanding performance from narrator, Jack Lefleur, one of my most favourite narrators.
"Nice contiuation from Book 1"
The listening of book 1 may not be mandatory to listen to this book 2 but it's not a bad idea. Both of these characters are introduced to us in the first one but not too much.
Killian aka Cookie is just a wonderful guy who through his friendship with Captain Torin is part of the crew on the ship that seems to look for trouble. This latest mission has Killian going into rescue someone who it turns out can complicate the lives of the entire crew.
Neath is the kind of man who may need rescuing. He gets caught up in a world many don't even knows exist. Killian is just what he needs but he doesn't know if his needs are real or affects of the drugs. They manage to muddle thru it just fine and throw some steamy sex in there as well.
Jack LeFleur our narrators just brings life to his characters you can tell which character you are listening to. Another great job for him.
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Love this series and could seriously listen to Jack LeFleur read the phone book. His narration is flawless and his voice is just downright sexy! Highly recommend.
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As some of you might know, I am on the BBQ Cookoff Committee for Rodeo Austin. As part of our fund raising efforts, we have an annual Dinner / Dance event with both a silent & live auction.
A few quick facts:
Everyone on the Q committee is tasked with bringing in various donations both in products & services to help raise funds in the auctions. I was able to secure two gift certificates to what is arguably two of the top 5 BBQ joints in the State of Texas (& by default, the United States of America).The Star of Texas Fair and Rodeo works year round to raise funds for the Scholarship Program. Since the start of the program in 1981, the Star of Texas Fair and Rodeo has awardedmore than $5 million in college scholarships. The Star of Texas Fair and Rodeo partners with Texas colleges and universities as well as 4-H and FFA Foundations to provide scholarships for deserving Texas students. As one of Central Texas' largest non-profit providers, the Star of Texas Fair and Rodeo presented more than $440,000 in college scholarships to 46 students in 2011.
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If you are interested in bidding on these items, you may attend our dinner / dance function with the purchase of a $ 30.00 per person ticket - the event happens on 03 March, 6p @ the Banquet Hall on the grounds of the Travis County Exposition Center (the same location as the Star of Texas Fair & Rodeo, near Decker Lake in East Austin).
The festivities will include:
Happy Hour
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Again, tickets start at $ 30.00 and may be purchased here: http://www.rodeoaustin.com/events_detail.aspx?id=950
And now for the good stuff & how it relates to GM Steakhouse:
In a combined package, the winning bidder will receive:
(1) Autographed original & complete issue of Texas Monthly with both Aaron Franklin & John Mueller on the cover.
Food package from Franklin BBQ:
(1) lb of brisket
(1) lb of ribs (Franklin only does pork)
(1) lb of pulled pork
(1) lb of sausage
(1) lb of turkey
No Line / No Wait Service (must place order 2 days prior to pickup & specify the STFR auction, plus present the gift certificate card as signed by Stacy Franklin AND for "no line service" must take the order to go / not eat onsite).
Minimum retail value of $ 100.00
Food package from John Mueller BBQ:
(1) whole brisket
(1) whole rack of beef ribs
(1) whole sausage
No Line / No Wait Service (must place order 2 days prior to pickup & specify the STFR auction, plus present the gift certificate card as signed by John Mueller AND for "no line service" must take the order to go / not eat onsite). Obviously this is not as special for John as it is for Franklin, but John's line & typical wait is growing.
Minimum retail value: $ 150.00
I think the Mueller Q item has some other stuff on it, but I turned in the paperwork & gift certs last week & don't completely remember.
If you are interested in bidding on this package but cannot attend, arrangements can be made via PM & advance authorization. I have no idea if this package will be listed in the silent or live auction as well as if it might be combined into another package of products.


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This forum is for questions and support regarding your pet cats!
(Please note many aspects of this FAQ apply to Dogs as well as Cats, but for its purpose the faq refers to cats specifically).
People don't realize just how important "Wet Food" is to a cat's diet. Cat's get a large portion of their hydration from their food. A dry kibble just isn't sufficient to the task. Dry food was actually created as a form of convenience for humans when feeding their pets. It's the least optimal form of food you can feed your cat.
For example; a cat needs to hit about a 75% hydration rate (minimum) to stay properly hydrated. With dry food, they'll only manage about a 60% hydration level. Add to that a moving source of water such as a fountain and you'll get a boost of about 5% putting your cat at a 65% hydration level.
You're possibly saying "But my cat drinks so much water!!" at this moment. But statistically, it isn't necessarily true.
Most cats DON'T drink enough water. The amount of water they actually take in with each visit to the water bowl is very small.
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So, it's important to find some type of "wet food" that your cat can enjoy eating.
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Remember, cats are obligate carnivores. This means they're carnivores (meat eaters). They lack the digestive track length that herbivores and omnivores have.
Normally, a carnivore will kill it's prey (say, a seed/grain eating mouse, in this case). During the process of feeding they'll eat the intestines and the stomach contents. In this manner, they eat the partially digested grains and vegetables and thus get the vitamins they need from those food groups.
So it's important to go for a low or no-grain diet with cats, something high in protein and low in ash content. Cats have a very difficult time digesting grains. In many instances you don't want to use any grain at all. True, a small amount of grain can help as a binding agent, but it's best to have none, especially if your cat has digestive issues.
If your cat won't eat wet food, then try human chicken, meat or fish. But remember that human packaged poultry, meat and fish don't have all the vitamin requirements that a cat needs. You'll have to go with a vitamin supplement to ensure your cat is getting all the neccessary vitamins and minerals that a cat needs.
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I really really wanted to like the game, but the frustration I'm going through makes it hard to.
I'm a fan of the Final Fantasy series, so I thought I'd pick up the trial and try this game out, but it turns out to be not user friendly at all.
First I recieved the trial email, it was very poorly formatted with html tags all visible. I managed to get past that, then I spent quite a long time trying to find the game client to download on the site, without any luck. I dug up a torrent and downloaded it, little did I know I needed that PlayOnline client thingy, and that's a whole story on its own.
I downloaded the client from their official website. I have a square enix account so I thought, I'll just log in. but NOOO! I needed to jump through hoops, then transfer my (non-existing) PlayOnline account to my (existing) square enix account, then create some kind of account that had a random username and password generated for me, then I needed to create a new profile on that account, and add my beta key then after doing all of this I was finally able to log in.
If you're going to make such a lengthy process and a bunch of hoops, least you could do is place a guide to it somewhere easily accessable.
Now I thought I was done and I would patch the game quickly then log in. Turns out I had to click a million popups some with an agreement, others with offers, news, and a warning not to neglect my job (thanks?) after which the patching process started. It took me 9 hours to complete patching on a 8 mb connection, but I'm patient.. This is Final Fantasy after all..
Patching was done, I was happy and excited to start, the story started playing and I was happy and engaged with it and ready to just sink my feet into this! then BOOM! connection decided to be lost! (how convenient)
I relogged into my square enix account with that VERY ANNOYING password system that pops up a box then forces you to type or click there, and in all effort not to be user friendly, "Enter" doesn't actually accept your password! you need to click that circle looking thingy!
Fine, done, logged in. clicked through all those useless dialogue boxes, then it goes full screen and the graphics look like it's a game emulated on some bad emulator, I didn't care, I play emulated games all the time and I guess there actually might be ways to fix that which I will have to reasearch I guess.
Got an email, alt tabbed out of the game, and it just slapped me in face "HOW DARE YOU ALT TAB OUT! THERE YOU GO, LOST CONNECTION! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?"
Fine. I'll give you that. Started the client again, the same annoying process of getting into the game with that shifty password system and the many popups, done, create a character, the game suddenly decides it doesn't like me and freezes my PC.
After a computer restart, log back in try to create a character. Now to picking a server, but which server do I pick? No info, no labels, no player count or anything. I might have picked some deserted server for all I know, but I'm stubborn! THIS GAME WILL GET PLAYED NO MATTER WHAT! Oh! I want to change the face, but since the game wants to make sure I know it hates me, my character keeps running around turning its face and back sideways and doing all those "cool" moves when I just want to look at the freaking face!! I can't make a face choice unless I keep waiting for it to turn towards me every time I check a new face.
Got another important email I was waiting for, and decided "screw it" then came to rant here.
I hope my ranting helps some new players configure and start this game if they decide to play.
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Well there is an option to play the game in windowed mode to be able to alt tab - there are also settings to change the resolution.
I am not sure why you are ranting over the features of a 10 year old game.
If you don't get past the char creation I suggest you should stop now, cause later on you will have to write macros suitable for your job and if you hated what you did so far, then that will be a gamekiller for you.
I have an entitlement delusion - because I have this strange idea that my 50$ should have the same value as anyone else's 50$
Oh I have nothing against old games. I wouldn't have picked this up if I did, and I don't mind writing macros and all that jazz. I was just complaining about the process of getting into the game itself (namely PlayOnline viewer) and how it could have been simplified or a handy guide provided at the main website. Hell, they could work on formatting their emails! It doesn't really reflect well for a potential new customer.
In either case it looks like my PC doesn't like the game and keeps freezing. Shame, I really did get engaged in the story and even got through a few starter dialogues before it froze again.
Good luck to everyone planning to give this a try, hope my suffering would serve as a rough "how to" to get started.
When it comes to FFXI, windower is your friend. http://wiki.windower.net/windower/latest
Want nice maps and are somewhat computer literate? http://forums.windower.net/topic/18265-xi-vision-v103-maps-12152010/
Some nice UI (follow the directions closely) http://forums.windower.net/topic/21145-xi-view-v20-user-interface-6142012/
Changing the BG res is here and be very careful with editing your registry. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Graphics
Scroll down to the registry overview and follow the directions. I double my BG res to my actual screen res. So 1920X1080 becomes 3840X2160.
With everything I have just covered the game will play on a PC looking about 6 years newer. Good luck!
Some useful community links:
P.S. Cerberus server is where it's at. Good mix of assholes and cool people.
Thank you! This was very very helpful. I will give everything a try again tomorrow hopefully.
It's np at all. If you end up on Cerberus server throw me a /tell. I am a member of a very newbie friendly LS with a lot of people to help you get started. Name is Vivik. Anything that you have a problem with above I can walk you through in game if needed also.
I have to agree with most (if not all) of OP's statements. I used to play FFXI about 8 years ago and I'm having an increasing interest in playing again. However I've been having a lot of frustration similar to what the OP has described and have had to call it quits. I understand it's an older game, but I think they could at least simplify the starting steps by now.
The PlayOnline client can simply be a nightmare. I remember how it took me roughly two hours just to get started with the PlayOnline registration. I don't recall all the exact details but I certainly wasn't in a good mood afterwards. All of the different accounts and passwords you have to keep track of is a huge nuisance for my tastes.
Now the billing system, it is simply the bane of my existance. Now it asks for this 3D Secure garbage that I never had to deal with when I played years ago. As Fry from Futurama would put it, I wish they would just shut up and take my money. I mean honestly, there has to be a better way to have a secure billing system than the one they currently use. I simply cannot play and enjoy FFXI because I have no cards that are so-called 3D secure.
I really do want to enjoy FFXI as much as I used to, but there are so many barriers and hindrances that are being employed that it makes it just about impossible for me to get through. And I imagine it's even worse for people who have never played before. It leaves a very negative impression on what is otherwise a good game.
I don't want to deal with a convoluted, complicated and unnecessary billing "feature" just to pay for an MMO. What's wrong with using the billing systems other MMOs use, like Rift or LOTRO?
If you live in the US there is no 3d secure requirements on CC anymore. Besides that you can pay with Crysta now through paypal and a couple other online retailers.
I agree that PoL is very convoluted but once you get used to it it's not a big thing anymore. You can save all of your PW to PoL except your SE account password which makes it so you only have to enter one password when you log in.
If you guys have any questions please feel free to post them here. I check this site daily and can answer pretty much anything game related.
Really? Did they do away with the 3D secure? And when?
If this is the case, I might look into playing once more. The mandatory 3D secure was what drove me away from playing again. But that would be wonderful if that's no longer a requirement.
(And I do live in the US by the way.)
Originally posted by Varlas
They did away with 3d secure at the end of 2011 when they made everyone convert their PoL accounts to SE accounts. you can go here to start the transfer proccess and chose your payment method.
I will warn you that it is not user friendly at all and is pretty confusing at first ( I think they like to model their payment system after their game). You cannot actually reactiveate your account without transfering it now and all of your payment optioins and info goes through the Square Enix site now instead of your PoL browser.
Interesting, I may look into trying it out once more. Thanks for all the information Dfix. Maybe this time I'll actually be able to play.
Not a problem at all. I love FFXI and I would hate to see someone not play anymore because of a flawed system that is PoL.
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Here's my experience of the FFXI free trial:
The requested URL /freetrial/download/ was not found on this server.
Originally posted by Banquetto
How long ago did you get a free trial e-mail? Going to their site, there is no "free trial" button like there used to be. Some times they will take it down because a lot of RMT use it to make money. I'm not saying that is why but it could be.
I'll do some digging around and see what I can come up with for a free trial pass.
Edit: Seems to be working now. They may have had it down for maint. Here is the link http://finalfantasyxi.com/freetrial/home/downloads
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FFXI was one of the most disappointing MMO experiences I've ever had also.
Originally posted by Theocritus
The game is definitely not for everyone. For those of us that like it it is a way of life. The game is one of those "I really love it" or "I absolutely hate it" games. Just out of cruriosity, how long has it been since you played?
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Originally posted by Dfix
First off , You can;t even begin to get into this game....This game takes at least a year to build up your multiple characters and reputation while players who have been playing for years have already done this. This is not a wow game this if a old school hardcore mmo .....I love this game when I played it .....awsome social aspect meeting new people everytime you play,great link shells or aka guilds,ah is wonderfully run,crafting kinda blows but whatever....This is not a game you can just p/u and play for a month and be at level ....You need to understand this before you play it...yes the graphics are dated and you can't jump lol but this game has a devoted fan base and a feel of what a mmo should be team work and excitement for you and your group finally beating one of the epic bosses...for its time this was the best mmo .........I loved this game
Originally posted by antshock35
While I do agree with most of your points I do have to say that this is not the FFXI you remember. There have been massive changes to the leveling system since they raised the cap to 99. You can probably take a new character to level 99 in just over a week.
With the addition of abyssea the game has become much more user and player friendly compared to the oldschool days. Some times I miss the old school parties and quite a few people do not like what abyssea did to the game but it has brought a lot of new people to the game that would never have touched it before.
With the announcement of the new expansion I have seen a huge jump in level 75s coming back to the game which is great. I had recently unsubbed myself after reading what they had planned for the next year ( before "Seekers of Adoulin" was anounced) and there just being nothing left that I wanted to do. Obviously soon after I heard the announcement I resubbed.
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Originally posted by Dfix
That is tragic man ! I loved old school ff11 ...I made more friends in tht game then wow,swtor, put together just because it was fun to blow off steam go tot the dunes and group for hours killing crabs lol......Well Heres to the old days of hardcore mmos that actually made you play longer then a week to hit cap..
Originally posted by antshock35
I agree. Our generation of MMO gamers are the equivalent of that old man that had to walk to work, up-hill, both ways, in three feet of snow.


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Rome certainly depicts fame as illusory, but it also has a character declare with some finality that since "life can be cruel and unsatisfying" for rich and poor, famous and unknown, "being a celebrity is definitely better."
"It is better, in the end," Allen insists. "You do lose your private life, but there are also a lot of benefits you get. You get a little bit more of a free ride being famous, and you learn to live with the drawbacks. That should be the worst thing that ever happens to you, that the paparazzi are a pain in the ass."
Allen knows of what he speaks. His filmmaking career is bifurcated by the scandal that began in 1992, when his then-girlfriend Farrow discovered that Allen was having an affair with Soon-Yi Previn, Farrow's college-age, adopted daughter (with her ex-husband Andre Previn). The revelation of the affair led to a nasty, protracted battle in the courts and in the press over custody of the three children, one natural and two adopted, whom Allen and Farrow had been raising together.
Which brings us to the most constant of Allen's themes, explored in Rome in Page's segment, in which Eisenberg's character, for no particular (or at least defensible) reason, finds himself falling for tempestuous, unstable Monica behind the back of his stable, gorgeous live-in girlfriend—and against the warnings of Baldwin's elder onlooker. That the heart wants what it wants when it wants it, in defiance of logic or advice, has long driven Allen's romantic stories—think of his character's desperate attempt to salvage his relationship with teenage Mariel Hemingway at the end of Manhattan or the mad-scientist spoof in Stardust Memories, in which Allen conducts an experiment on his hot, crazy love interest and a plain, sane, sensible match, switching their personalities to put the stable woman in the body of the fox . . . only to fall in love with the now-nuts plain Jane. Allen has returned to this theme with a fury in recent years, in films as tonally disparate as the sweaty, threesome-teasing travelogue Vicky Cristina Barcelona and the screwball Whatever Works, in which Woody surrogate Larry David marries a much-younger hayseed played by Evan Rachel Wood.
"The heart wants what it wants" is more than a theme of Allen's films; it's also perhaps the filmmaker's best-known statement on his own life. Allen used the phrase in a no-holds-barred interview with Walter Isaacson, published in Time magazine in 1992, on the matter of Allen's relationship with his now-wife (Allen and Soon-Yi Previn married in 1997). The interview's final quote—"The heart wants what it wants. There's no logic to those things. You meet someone, and you fall in love, and that's that"—could be Allen's epitaph, a thematic summary of both this most infamous aspect of Allen's personal life and many of his most lasting films.
Certainly, it propels his new film's most resonant plotline. In Rome, Eisenberg's character admits that his shift in affection lacks any rational explanation, while the Baldwin character seems to be judging the love triangle from the remove of age but not necessarily with accrued wisdom. At one point, Page's character turns to Baldwin and says, "You will never understand women." He fires back, "That's been proven."
That Allen is still making films about men grappling with the illogic of love, well into his 70s, particularly in light of his own life experience, gives the work the weight of tragedy. He's been using his art to ask these questions for 40 years, and he still hasn't figured it out.
"About the important things in life, you learn nothing," Allen acknowledges. "I know this; I'm older now. It's really true."
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The character Allen plays in Rome is unhappily retired. "I miss work," he admits to his psychoanalyst wife, played by Judy Davis, who is unsympathetic to her husband's fear of spending his dotage drooling in front of a TV. If this is not direct autobiography, it's only because Allen—who has been widely quoted lamenting having aged out of romantic leads in his own movies—cannot imagine putting himself in that position.
"I don't know what I'd do if I retired," he says. "I don't fish."
He has a reputation for working every day—the day editing finishes on one film, so goes the legend, he types the first words of the next screenplay. He insists it's not as grueling a pace as it sounds.
"You finish a film, and then, okay, it's finished," he says. "And then you sit at home, and what do you do? The normal things. I go to the movies, take a walk, go to a basketball game. So what happens? A week passes, two weeks pass, and I'm not gonna do that the rest of my life, so I start to write something.
"You know, it just evolves naturally," he adds. "You sit around the house, and you start to work on something after a few days or a few weeks because, otherwise, it's boring."
For Allen, work is a given; it's just a question of finding the mechanism to keep doing it his way. "I'd certainly be interested in anyone who came to me with money to make a film because that's always a scramble. But they would have to tolerate my idiosyncrasies, and that's where I always strike out. I don't let anybody read the script. So the film company would have to put the money in blindly; it couldn't say anything about casting; it couldn't see dailies; it'd have to put the money in a brown paper bag, and then see the film when it's ready. And very, very few people are willing to do that."
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It's just like all these end of the world predictions Rene. None of them ever come true, yet people always worry about them.
Verizon sells 9.8 million smartphones in Q4 2012, 6.2 million of which are iPhones
Verizon has announced their financial results for Q4, 2012, and out of 9.8 million smartphones sold, 6.2 million of them were iPhone. That's over 63%. They also announced that their 4G LTE network now reached 273 million people in 476 U.S. markets. According to [Verizon] chairman and CEO, Lowell McAdam:
Verizon seized growth opportunities in the fourth quarter to cap a year of solid progress across the entire business. We delivered a total return of 13.2 percent to shareholders in 2012, and we enter 2013 ready to accelerate the momentum we've achieved and create significant shareholder value in the years to come.
It was also a record quarter for tablet sales, including the new introduced iPad mini and iPad 4.
This comes following the usual doom-and-gloom rumors and reports which seem to precede earnings announcement weeks, the last 10 days of which suggested demand for the iPhone 5 was weak and Apple should pack their bags and go home. If that turns out to be the stock manipulation at the expense of Apple and regular, more easily frightened investors, then it would be nice to think oversight would occur and such reports wouldn't find purchase in the most trusted financial papers of record in the future.
But who am I kidding, that particular type of bullshit services way too many agendas for anything approaching ethics or common sense to counter.
Meanwhile, more the 3 out of every 5 phones Verizon sold over the holidays were made by Apple.
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Verizon sells 9.8 million smartphones in Q4 2012, 6.2 million of which are iPhones
Exactly. And when I looked at the close after reading the "Why AAPL had to close at $500" article, I couldn't believe it closed at EXACTLY $500. This is folks looking for a quick buck over the next weeks, and aside from cold, hard facts, which there will be none, you won't be able to convince me otherwise.
Also, keep in mind these Verizon numbers come when (A) sales people actively try to sell a Samsung Android phone to anyone asking for an iPhone (happened to two of my less tech saavy friends, who both returned them for iPhones within the 14 day window) AND (2) not one single iPhone on display in any corporate Verizon store I have been in over the past 2 months (5 stores across 3 states). And all had them in stock.
Odd, no?
While I agree that yearly stats would be good, there were quite a few devices that came out on Verizon in the 4th Quarter. Thats the Holiday quarter, so everyone wants something to sell.
Verizon released phones (Off the top of my head) during the 4th quarter: Samsung Galaxy Note 2, Samsung Stratosphere 2, HTC DNA, Motorola Droid RAZR HD/MaxxHD, LG Spectrum 2, HTC 8X, Nokia 822...
Plus TECHNICALLY, Apple released the i5 at the end of the 3rd quarter (so this number doesnt include presales, etc). If you include the other competing phones release at the end of the 3rd Quarter, that also includes: Motorola Droid M, Samsung Stellar, and LG Intuition (again, off top of head)...
So, pretty much every company in the smartphone wars (except Blackberry) had a new phone (or multiple) released in the same time period as the newest iPhone. And seeing how this is talking about iPhones activated *total* (instead of just the iPhone 5) I would think that the numbers are pretty comparative.
Edit: I see your correction. And yes I agree.
Wow -- you would think Rene and others forget that there are markets outside the US and Canada. Verizon having good sales doesn't automatically discredit reports of Apple cutting production. Apple will fall. They all do. You guys just need to get over it.


text: A Challenging Race - Daryl Mullholand, athletic trainer and associate professor of exercise and sport science at Clearwater Christian College, knows exactly what a rush of adrenaline can do for a person. As a runner, cyclist, swimmer, athletic trainer, and avid youth instructor, he does it alland then some. This summer, Mullholand qualified for the 2009 Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon, a world-famous race held each year in San Francisco, California. The Escape from Alcatraz includes a boat ride to the prison island of Alcatraz, a 1.5-mile swim across the San Francisco Bay, an arduous 18-mile bike ride through the Presidio and Golden Gate Park, and a final 8-mile run across the pavement and sand of the Golden Gate Recreation Area. Participating in the 2009 Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon was a great experience, said the 44-year-old athlete. With difficulties beginning right off the boat, Mullholand said that swimming against the current was not easy. If you swam directly toward the shore, you were fine. The 1-mile warm up run to Marina Green began immediately after reaching shore. At Marina Green, athletes mounted their bikes and started the 18-mile cycling portion of the race. The trail was so hilly that had I gone slowly, I would have fallen off my bike! It was an unbelievably fast descent. Im sure that I was going easily over 40 miles an hour. The bumpy roads, combined with sharp turns and hills made for an exciting leg of the Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon. After the cycling portion, athletes had to exhibit incredible physical stamina for the final 8-mile run to the finish line. The trail wound over pavement, through sand, and up a 400-step sand ladder. According to the official Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon website, there is no other obstacle in the triathlon circuit as difficult as the sand ladder. Once he reached the top, Mullholand completed the final sprint to the finish linethe last test of endurance for the exhausted athletes. It was a once-in-a-lifetime experience. Andy Potts, professional runner, won the 2009 Escape from Alcatraz triathlon for the third straight year. Mullholand said that it was an honor to run with such amazing, talented people. A Focused Beginning - Training for the Escape from Alcatraz Triathlon involved running up and down the Tampa Bay Memorial or Sand Key bridges, constantly logging 6-8 miles on Clearwater and Indian Rocks beaches, moderate 10-12 mile runs focusing on endurance, swimming in the cold Gulf waters, and 40-60 mile long bike rides through the hills of San Antonio. To train for the triathlon, I had to decide what my goals were for the race. Based on those goals, I set up a training plan that began several months before the race. Mullholand used his preparations for the triathlon as a way to develop his spiritual walk. Like my walk with the Lord, [training for a triathlon] is a journey. My focus is on the finish because I press toward the mark for the prize . When I accepted the Lord there was no way I could fully understand everything concerning my Christian Walk. Just like it takes time to condition your body, it takes time to develop a personal relationship with the Lord. In my everyday walk I find that I have my ups and downs. The same is true with race preparation; there are days when you feel great and can put the hammer down and then you have days in which you struggle to just put one foot in front of the other. Mullholand runs with a purpose by using the race as a platform for ministry. His passion for finishing strong mirrors his job at CCC. I have the desire to finish strong no matter what it takes. I put in months of hard work before a race and I want to see it pay off in the end. Being a good teacher takes the same kind of hard work. Standing in front of the class is like race day; however, it takes many hours of preparation to prepare for each day of teaching. God wants us to give our best each day and that is what I strive to do. During the summer, CCC athletic trainer Mullholand conducts a College for Kids camp program for children K-5. College for Kids is an enrichment program for children having completed kindergarten through fifth grade (K-5). It is a program where the children have the opportunity to have fun and learn a variety of topics over the summer. Topics range from photography, tae bo, sign language, French, Spanish, rocketry, Africa, Journalism, reading, and much, much more. Mullholand enjoys investing his time and skills in the next generation. For more information about College for Kids, please contact St. Petersburg College or visit their website. A Purpose for Life - Running has become a daily exercise for CCC Trainer Daryl Mullholand; but, running is only a small glimpse into his character. By using principles learned while training for triathlons, Mullholand has molded his classroom teaching into an effective outreach to CCC students. One of the most important principles of training is consistency and discipline. Just like our fellowship with Christ, being consistent with devotions and prayer will enhance our relationship. This same consistency is needed to develop any exercise regimen. Discipline comes in when you dont feel like doing it or have trouble finding time in the day. Another key principle I try to teach my students is a positive lifestyle change. I want them to find something active that they can do and enjoy for the rest of their lives. Many other principles and exercises that relate to training and running fit many of my lectures. I incorporate the use of lactate threshold training, tempo training, long-slow distance training, speed training, nutrition, minimizing over-training and overuse injuries, etc. I am able to discuss each of these in my kinesiology, nutrition, conditioning & fitness classes, and athletic injury classes. I find it invaluable to bring real-life experience into the classroom. Mullholand has participated in six 70.3 Ironman distance triathlons (one being the World Championship), Olympic distance triathlons, and sprint distance triathlons. I have been running all of my life, but I would say Ive been a serious runner for the last 10 years. He plans on running the Disney Marathon in January 2010 and hopes to one day qualify for the Boston Marathon. Running starts with one foot in front of the other. A consistent routine will get you to the finish line every time! Print Article


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Members of the Aiken branch of the American Association of University Women were all smiles as they assisted the flood of people attending their Books 'N Things Fair on Friday.
On Friday morning, a line of anxious residents was waiting outside the old CVS space where the event is taking place, ready to rummage through a variety of hardcover and paperback books, VHS tapes, DVDs, audiobooks, kitchen items, holiday and seasonal items, jewelry, toys and puzzles, and more.
"We had a big rush this morning," said Event Co-Chair Ginny Brooks. "It was so packed. It was crazy. They kept coming and coming and coming, which is great for us."
This is the 43rd year the association has held the greatly anticipated event. Laura Tempia was sitting at the end of a table filled with books thumbing through the pages of a few prospective buys. She said it's a fantastic opportunity to find books that she wouldn't be able to find online.
"We've been coming every year," Tempia said. "It's something we always look forward to."
Susan Pickett and her husband Chuck were at the fair together looking for art and history books. Susan picked up Jodi Picoult's "Handle With Care" stating that she plans on lending the book to her mother after she reads it and then donating it to a library so it gets as much use as possible.
"It's a new discovery of nice treasures for a great cause," Pickett said.
The money raised by the fair funds scholarships to USC Aiken and Aiken Technical College. Funds have also been donated in the past to Public Education Partners and GED programs.
When the fair concludes today, local teachers who called ahead are allowed in to pick up any remaining books they would like for free.
Leitz said the turnout has been strong so far, and she hopes even more people will come out today.
"I'd say it's a great sale," said Event Co-chair Pam Leitz. "We've had a lot of great response from the community."
The association's Books 'N Things Fair continues today from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. at the former CVS location in Kalmia Plaza.
For more information, call 642-7858.
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