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Grant Gallicho February 7, 2014 - 3:49pm
On Wednesday, the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child published a report strongly criticizing the Vatican for its handling of the sexual-abuse crisis. It hasn't gone over very well. John Allen argued that it might actually hurt the reform movement within the Catholic Church. Austen Ivereigh called the committee a "kangaroo court." (While I don't agree with everything Ivereigh has to say about the report--for example, he claims the Holy See has been a "catalyst" on abuse reform "at least since 2001"--he's catalogued its many mistakes.) Michael Sean Winters declared, "To hell with the UN." Mark Silk criticized the report for treating the Holy See as it would any other state, calling it "worse than idiotic. It's counterproductive."
Apart from that significant error, the report foolishly wades into doctrinal waters, suggesting the Vatican revise its teachings on abortion and contraception. The committee urges the Holy See to provide "family planning, reproductive health, as well as adequate counselling and social support, to prevent unplanned pregnancies." At one point the UN committee asks Rome to remove from Catholic-school textbooks "all gender stereotyping which may limit the development of the talents and abilities of boys and girls and undermine their educational and life opportunities." At another it complains that the Code of Canon Law refers to children born out of wedlock as "illegitimate." The report says that in canon law instances of sexual abuse ought to be "considered as crimes and not as 'delicts,'" seemingly ignorant of the fact that "delict" means crime. (The committee's work is so sloppy that it doesn't even seem to know where to cut off a quote: That part of the report reads, "Child sexual abuse, when addressed, has been dealt with as 'grave delicts against the moral' through confidential proceedings...")
Even when the committee bumps up against a good idea, it seems uninterested in context. For example, it asks Rome to establish "clear rules, mechanisms and procedures for the mandatory reporting of all suspected cases of child sexual abuse and exploitation to law enforcement authorities," but fails to note that the world's law-enforcement authorities are not all made in the image and likeness of North America's and Europe's. That's why some diocese--in Africa, for example--haven't implemented mandatory-reporting rules. Shouldn't a UN committee show some awareness of that?
Some of their confusions could have been cleared up with a few clicks of a mouse, or by speaking to someone who knows something about the inner workings of the church. Apparently that didn't occur to the them.
Today Vatican spokesman Frederico Lombardi, SJ, responded to the UN report, claiming that its missteps prove that the committee gave "much greater attention..to certain NGOs, the prejudices of which against the Catholic Church and the Holy See are well known." Not the most helpful formulation, especially given that some Vatican officials have dismissed the sexual-abuse scandal as a creation of an anti-Catholic press.
Still, the rest of the statement is relatively measured. Lombardi explains that the report fails to highlight several of the Vatican's recent efforts to come to terms with the scandal. It does, in fact, "welcome" some of those changes, including the creation of the Commission for the Protection of Minors and changes to Vatican City State law regarding the abuse of minors, but it has little to say about them. "Few other organizations or institutions, if any, have done as much," Lombardi claims. Maybe, but it isn't as though Rome led the charge. Bishops were shamed into action by victims and sustained media coverage of the abuse they suffered.
Lombardi also laments the committee's comments on church teaching, which "seem to go beyond its powers and to interfere in the very moral and doctrinal positions of the Catholic Church, giving indications involving moral evaluations of contraception, or abortion, or education in families, or the vision of human sexuality, in light of [the committee's] own ideological vision of sexuality itself." Of course, he's right. And he doesn't even get into the report's errors of fact, like its assertion that because of "a code of silence imposed on all members of the clergy under penalty of excommunication, cases of child sexual abuse have hardly ever been reported to the law enforcement authorities."
The document is a mess, which is a shame because it contains legitimate criticisms that Rome needs to hear, and it could end up giving aid and comfort to curialists who still believe that the sexual-abuse crisis has been overblown by enemies of the church.
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Political conservatives in the US already barely conceal their contempt for the UN. This dunderheaded report will be taken in those quarters as yet one more example of the drivel that comes out of that collection of diplomatically immune wheel-spinners, time-wasters and useful idiots for the worst people in the world (as conservatives already view of the UN), and only what should have been expected.
Not only is it this a missed opportunity in regard to the reform of the church's handling of sexual abuse, it further undermines the UN's already tenuous credibility (in the eyes of political conservatives) in any number of other areas in which the UN operates, including climate change, weapons inspection, disaster relief, etc. etc. etc.
Mr. Jenkins - excellent commentary and analysis. Yep, appears that we have an institution running headlong into criticism and reacting according to script.
From community organizational theory:
Church as Institution demands *unilateral power* marked as Top Down; unaccountable; power over; subject to object; zero sum.
It demands *consent* using: threat of force (sin, damnation); controlled or slanted information; habit of apathy; mystery/magic/ritual/custom understood as the *tyranny of experts*
Can you imagine Father why we might not believe you? Can you imagine how some of us hear your charges against the NGOs with some degree of skepticism? Do you grasp the irony for some of us in your trying to make yourselves the victims in this situation? Can you understand that many of us love the "church" and the tradition but feel that it has be co-opted in large part by a clerical establishment that in spite of many saints is marked deeply by dishonesty, corruption, arrogance and crime. Can you see the necessity for complete truth telling and profound repentance?
It looks to me like a sloppy, under-researched report, which is likely to be counter-productive. The paragraph on the Magdalene Laundries, for example, owes more to movies than to any serious examination of the McAleese Report, which provides the only major documentation on them. One factual error is the claim that women gave birth in the Laundries.
Joseph O'Leary - I agree, Reese nails it. The UN should just paste its logo over Reese's column.
Cardinal O'Malley's take on the report:
It's now the second item on the blog, but you don't have to scroll very far to hit it. The takeaway:
I do not think the commission's report has been either fair or particularly helpful.
On the other hand, the cardinal doesn't throw out the good parts with the unfair and uhelpful parts.
P.S. Jim P, Considering the right wing's past history with the United Nations, I don't think we have to devote an iota of attention to what they think of this report in particular. We can put them aside with the Illuminati.
James Carroll takes on claims that the Holy See only has control over child abuse that happens within the Vatican City state.
ON THE QUESTION of how far papal authority extends, the canon law of the Catholic Church could not be clearer: "The vicar of Christ. . . possesses full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely." (Can. 331) Note that canon law does not say, "except in cases of priestly sex abuse of children." Canon law does not say that priests and bishops are independent contractors. Canon law does not say that what happens in Catholic parishes and dioceses around the world has nothing to do with Rome. In fact, another canon reads, "By virtue of his office, the Roman pontiff not only possesses power over the universal church, but also obtains the primacy of ordinary power over all particular churches and groups of them." (Can. 333)
How to square that sweeping papal power with the shameless dodge put forward by the Holy See in this era of church disgrace — the claim that, when it comes to protecting children from abuse, the Roman Catholic Church is legally responsible only to safeguard those living in the confines of Vatican City, a tiny city-state that would fit inside New York's Central Park eight times? Washing the Vatican's hands of broader responsibility for the staggering transnational accumulation of rapes by priests, and systematic enabling of those rapes by bishops, a Vatican spokesman said, "When individual institutions of national churches are implicated, that does not regard the competence of the Holy See . . . The competence of the Holy See is at the level of the Holy See...."
The pope's men, including squads of lawyers who deny that offending priests and bishops are "employees" and insist that the pope as a sovereign head of state is immune from lawsuits, are obviously seeking to fend off the threat of multinational litigation that could saddle the Vatican with billions of dollars in liabilities. So far, courts have mostly sided with the Holy See.
But the Vatican strategy has come at a terrible moral cost. Once again, protection of church power and possessions is trumping the profound moral obligation to reckon with the truth of what is still happening in the Catholic Church. And now comes this next lie — the ridiculous assertion that the pope does not exercise full and complete authority over priests and bishops. When parishioners fight the closure of beloved churches, they appeal to Rome. When English-speaking Catholics are directed to say at Mass that Jesus died for "many" instead of for "all," the fiat comes from Rome. "The competence of the Holy See" is exercised at every level of church life everywhere.
Read more: http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2014/02/10/united-nations-vat...
You see htis so often when some committe or other is going to conduct a review. They overreach and thus give the group being reviewed and its supporters grounds for dismissing the whole of the findings. In this instance the UN did exactly that. Had they stuck to the basic question, defense of children, and avoided what were clearly extraneous factors and things that were not going to change, like the Church's position on abortion, they'd have been far more effective and there would be far less of the "this is just a bunch of guys out to hurth the Church" type of response. As ti si, the Vatican was far less indignant in its response than it could have been, certainly far less than many commentators and defenders have been (I'm looking at you, Michael Sean Winters). The bottom line is that the Church has a horrible record of performance on this matter. For decades and decades they made every effort to protect the people who assaulted children, and not a single bishop has been removed from office, even those who have peaded guilty to coverups. And frankly, outside of a couple of diocese, nobody is completely certain that it is being dealt with fully yet.
Jim McCrea, may I suggest that you re-read the Wikipedia entry on "sovereign states" that you referred to in your comments about the "Holy See." Note the opening paragraph of that entry. It says that a sovereign state has a well defined citizenry as wewll as a well defined trritory. The fact that the Vatican State as it presently exists has come into existence only rather recently changes nothing about the criteeria for being a sovereign state.
@ John Hayes: Thanks for posting this Boston Globe op-ed from James Carroll. Only thing is: You left off his concluding paragraph which is the most operative and salient point at issue:
Pope Francis has appointed a Commission for the Protection of Minors, and the UN urges that it be independently empowered and fully transparent. Francis has generated enormous hope for a new day in the Catholic Church, but on the abuse question he has miles to go. The message from the United Nations is that the world is more appalled by Catholic crimes than defensive church officials are. If the church does not address those crimes, others will.
BD: "The Vatican" is reported as having said that it "regrets to see in some points of the concluding observations an attempt to interfere with Catholic Church teaching on the dignity of human person and in the exercise of religious freedom" and "reiterates its commitment to defending and protecting the rights of the child... according to the moral and religious values offered by Catholic doctrine". Abp Tomasi added that the UN could not ask the Church to change its "non-negotiable" moral teachings.
But "the church" is not a signatory of the UN Charter on the Rights of the Child (CRC): the political entity called the "Holy See" or the "Vatican City State" is. This political entity, with a defined territory and citizenry, agreed to abide by the features of the Charter. Those are the moral teachings (if you will) that the UN is accusing The Holy See/Vatican City State of failing to uphold.
Or is it being held that "The Vatican" is the religious organization when that is most beneficial and it is a political entity when that is most beneficial? The pope as, what: CEO of the political entity (the Holy See) or Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church, appoints bishops at his sole discretion and they are, what: Regional Managers of the political entity or Successors of the Apostles of the Roman Catholic Church?
It appears that this is a case of wanting to have one's cake and eat it too as a matter or particular convenience.
I will admit that the UN committee seemed to use this report to grind a few axes that were better left un-ground, but the righteous indignation of (the Holy See?) (The Roman Catholic Church?) appears to be a feint away from the damning charges about the patent failure to act as one would expect from the top-most leadership of One True Church Established by Christ over many years and pontificates.
Claudia Rosett on the UN report:
the U.N ... has still not solved its own festering problems of peacekeeper sex abuse, including the rape of minors. Exposing abusers and holding them to account is a great idea. The Vatican has spent years addressing the scandal of its own past handling of such cases. But the U.N. hardly engages in the transparency it is now promoting.
The U.N. releases only generic statistics on violations committed by personnel working under its flag. The U.N. doesn't share with the public such basic information as the names of the accused or the details of what they did to people the U.N. dispatched them to protect. Blue berets accused of sex crimes are simply sent back to their home countries, where in the majority of cases they drop off the radar.
The real issue here is that whatever changes the Vatican and the world's 1.2 billion Catholics might consider, the U.N. is supremely ill-qualified to serve as a guide. ...The Committee on the Rights of the Child consists of 18 panelists advertised as "independent experts," serviced by a secretariat housed in Geneva under the umbrella of the U.N.'s dubiously named Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. The committee members are nominated for their posts by the governments of their home countries and elected by an assembly of treaty members that reflects the despot-heavy tilt of the U.N.
From 2009-13 the committee included a member put forward by the government of Syria, where in 2011 the Assad regime began making world headlines for torturing and murdering children. Currently, the committee includes members from such human-rights-challenged countries as Saudi Arabia, Russia, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Sri Lanka, Tunisia, Bahrain and Egypt. This panel issues reports via a process that in practice entails neither uniform standards of judgment nor urgent attention to some of the world's most horrifying abuses of children
Jim Jenkins, i usually try to avoid quoting the whole text of someone else's article. In this case, I omitted the paragraph you quoted and one other - and gave a link so people could read the whole article on the Globe website.
The other paragraph mentioned that the UN committee
reminded the Holy See that "by ratifying the convention it has committed itself to implementing the convention not only on the territory of the Vatican City state, but also as the supreme power of the Catholic Church through individuals and institutions placed under its authority."
I wonder if that's legally so but, regardless of what the Holy See (the Vatican city state) is legally required to do, I think the Vatican, as the Catholic Church, needs to require bishops to deal adequately with child abuse and hold them accountable if they don't
in an interview yesterday, Cardinal O'Malley said
he thought the committee's report would put new pressure on the Vatican to take stronger steps to prevent abuse. He agreed with the UN panel that the church must develop methods of holding bishops accountable when they fail to abide by a "zero tolerance" policy.
In December, O'Malley announced on Francis' behalf that the pope was creating a new Vatican commission to lead the anti-abuse charge. In the Globe interview, O'Malley said that developing ways of holding bishops' feet to the fire should be part of its mandate, but he did not indicate how long that would take.
"The first order of business is getting national policies in place, to have some clarity about what the expectations are throughout the world," he said. "Once the policies are in place, what the [Vatican] might do to intervene where bishops are not following those policies has to be part of a future plan."
I see the terms "Vatican City" and "Holy See" used interchangeably under this topic. In my view, they're not exactly the same. Vatican City is the political entity - an independent nation surrounded by the city of Rome, the rump that remains from what historically was the Papal States. I assume it is Vatican City that is a signatory to the treaty in question and is affiliated with (a full member of?) the UN. As a legal matter, I'd think that its compliance with any international laws would apply only to the residents of that political entity - fewer than a thousand people, mostly priests and bishops, I understand.
The Holy See is a 'construct' of the church's internal governance. To be sure, it's virtually unthinkable to many people that the Holy See could ever exist apart from the political entity known as Vatican City, and there are theological reasons that it is fitting that the Chair of Peter be there, but it's not inconceivable. Nations come and go. Most of the land and peoples that were at one time ruled by the pope as a temporal ruler are no longer governed by him. And the church existed for some time after Pentecost before a local church was planted in Rome and (we believe) Peter went there.
The political (Vatican City) and the internal governance of the spiritual (the Holy See) are united in the person of the Pope. The pope as spiritual vicar is critical to our understanding of the church. But is the pope as temporal ruler critical? It's not impossible that some day the Holy Father could continue to be the spiritual father of the church, with all that entails, without being the monarch of a political entity. Should that happen - should Vatican City cease to exist as an independent entity - then whatever UN treaties it signed would no longer be applicable. But the church would continue to exist in the same way that virtually all other Christian denominations exist.
Canon law is the church's internal code of governance, analogous to the rules or bylaws or a club or association. It "belongs" to the Holy See, not to Vatican City. If an independent Vatican City goes away tomorrow, canon law would continue to exist and apply to the church.
James Carroll is an eminent Catholic journalist and historian, but to my knowledge he is not an expert on canon law. That's not to say that he shouldn't offer an opinion on the meaning of canon law. Nor does it mean that his 'take' on those canons is wrong. But unless he cites an authority, I don't think we're obligated to accept his opinion as authoritative. And arguing from canon law that a UN treaty signed by Vatican City is therefore applicable to Catholics in Dubuque or Durban or Manila seems questionable, to say the least.
Jim Pauwels, initially I thought it was the Vatican City State which had signed the treaty, but Wikipedia says it is the Holy See which is recognized by the UN and signs treaties.
Since the Holy See is legally capable of ratifying international treaties, and does ratify them, it is invited to participate - on equal footing with States - in the negotiation of most universal International law-making treaties held under the auspices of the United Nations.[22] Being a negotiating party, it is able to make substantive proposals, reject the proposals of other negotiating parties, request a vote, and even vote. The Holy See has participated actively in the negotiation of the 1998 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, the 1997 Terrorist Bombing Convention, and the 2006 Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, among others.
i haven't gone further than that, so far.
Could not have said it better.
Dear God, they hid the abuse of children.
Everybody should be outraged.
John H - I stand corrected. This passage from a related Wikipedia article both supports and refutes my view :-)
Although the Holy See, as distinct from the Vatican City State, does not fulfill the long-established criteria in international law of statehood—having a permanent population, a defined territory, a stable government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states[11]—its possession of full legal personality in international law is shown by the fact that it maintains diplomatic relations with 180[12] states, that it is a member-state[13] in various intergovernmental international organizations, and that it is: "respected by the international community of sovereign States and treated as a subject of international law having the capacity to engage in diplomatic relations and to enter into binding agreements with one, several, or many states under international law that are largely geared to establish and preserving peace in the world."[14]
In short - it's treated as if it were a state because other state actors choose to treat it as if it were a state.
I think it's problematic. It's not the sort of dual citizenship I've signed up for.
Jim - one more Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_the_Holy_See
But, I think it's a mistake to get drawn into the legal issues - and that's what disappointed me about what appears to be the standard talking point put out by Fr. Lombardi, Cardinal O'Malley and others - that the Pope's responsibility is limited to what happens with the Vatican city State and, everywhere else, the buck stops with individual bishops.
I don't think that is going to convince many people.
I think they are caught in a trap, in that they don't want to have victims of abuse sue the Pope for his vicarious liability for bishops, and pastors and priests as if he were their employer. From a money standpoint, it's better for the Church to have a diocese go into bankruptcy and have the losses end there. In the two lawsuits I know of in the US in which people tried to bring in the Pope, the Vatican's lawyer argued that bishops have offices, not jobs and that once the Pope appoints a bishop, he has no further control over what the bishop does and there is no employer-employee relationship that would make the Pope (or the Church beyond the diocese) liable. The Vatican lawyer also put forth that Pastors have offices, not jobs and once a bishop appoints a pastor, he has no vicarious liability for what the pastor does.
That doesn't match up with my impression of the reality of the control the Vatican imposes on bishops and bishops impose on pastors, but the courts in both cases accepted that argument. I suppose that the Vatican lawyers will advise against doing anything that will endanger the protection the Pope now has.
That's why I was happy to see Cardinal O'Malley talk about holding bishops responsible. I imagine they are going to have some complicated discussions about how to do that without exposing the Pope (and the church as a whole) to claims by abuse victims. The more control that the pope exercises, the more financial risk he takes.
Apart from the legal issues, I agree with James Carrol that "the Vatican strategy has come at a terrible moral cost"
I hope we can change that soon, because that is what is important.
Wow, then the Holy See is a state like Exxon is a person.
"Holy See," by the way, is the site I Google when I want to read a papal document that isn't at hand. Most papal documents are not about government.
that's what disappointed me about what appears to be the standard talking point put out by Fr. Lombardi, Cardinal O'Malley and others - that the Pope's responsibility is limited to what happens with the Vatican city State and, everywhere else, the buck stops with individual bishops.
As a matter of ecclesiology, two false statements would be:
- "The pope has no responsibility whatever in what goes on in individual dioceses or with individual bishops"
- "The pope has complete responsibility for what goes on in individual dioceses or with individual bishops"
The truth is more complex. The church's organization is a communion, and that communion is expressed via the principle of subsidiarity. Federalism, with which we are familiar in the US, is another, different expression of subsidiarity.
My view is that this church organization is not dependent on the Holy See being based in Vatican City, and does not depend on legal or diplomatic recognition by other nations. That the church happens also to have these particular characteristics, in my opinion, gives the church some benefits - and as you note, potentially may bring some very real liabilities. But I don't think it is constitutive of the church that it have this sort of unique quasi-state status.
Btw, I am cynical enough to agree with you that Fr. Lombardi, Cardinal O'Malley et al seek to sheild the church from liability - and that the UN report was motivated in part by a desire to expose the church to liability. But I don't usually suppose that the UN operates from pristine motives, anymore than Congress or Exxon does.
Found this response in the Dallas Morning News to be very balanced:
CYNTHIA RIGBY, W.C. Brown Professor of Theology, Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary
My initial, gut reaction on this was to say that the UN should have stuck with addressing child abuse and should have avoided commenting on social issues such as abortion, contraception, homosexuality, and gender roles. After all, it is important that we protect the right of religious institutions to say, teach, uphold, and defend what they believe.
Until I got to thinking, which led me to delve a little deeper. I starting thinking through how it is that we can cut to the core of this heinous human rights violation that went mainly unchecked for decades, and remains yet to be resolved. In order to protect our children from the "worst" of abuses, don't we have to think more organically about how our "positions" (civil, religious, and otherwise) affect them, the most vulnerable members of our global community? How do the "positions" we hold fail to keep our children safe?
I read through the UN report and found that it actually does not criticize directly the Vatican's position on abortion, contraception, homosexuality, and gender roles. What it does do is insist the church promote such positions in ways that do not fund the abuse of children in any way. Any such abuses, the document rightly insists, are criminal acts that must be condemned by the global society. The report further points out that the Vatican signed, alongside 139 other sovereign entities, the UN's "Convention on the Rights of the Child" in 1989 (linked at www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crc.aspx), therefore covenanting to take these matters seriously and to be guided by way of conversation with other signing members of the global community.
As I study this matter I am increasingly impressed by how careful the UN was about NOT criticizing religious convictions as such, but insisting that these religious convictions not be invoked as a justification for overlooking ANY form of child abuse, discrimination, or neglect.
Here are four examples, drawn straight from the report.
"The Committee urges the Holy See to review its position on abortion which places obvious risks on the life and health of pregnant girls . . ." [Note that the aim here is not to criticize the church's position on abortion per se, but to highlight the real implications of this position for pregnant children, particularly those who have been raped and/or whose lives are endangered by pregnancy.]
"The Committee is seriously concerned about the negative consequences of the Holy See's position and practices of denying adolescents' access to contraception, as well as to sexual and reproductive health and information." [Note that the concern here is not directly to criticize the church's position on contraception, but to advocate for the sexual and reproductive health of children.]
"The Committee also urges the Holy See to make full use of its moral authority to condemn all forms of harassment, discrimination or violence against children based on their sexual orientation or the sexual orientation of their parents and to support efforts at international level for the decriminalisation of homosexuality." [Note that the concern here is not to counter the church's position that homosexuality is a sin, but to condemn criminal violence directed against children who are homosexual in orientation and/or children of homosexual parents.]
"The Committee also urges the Holy See to take active measures to remove from Catholic schools textbooks all gender stereotyping which may limit the development of the talents and abilities of boys and girls and undermine their educational and life opportunities." [Note that the concern here is not to condemn the church's teaching that the roles of men and women differ, but to call the church to promote the flourishing of all children, regardless of their sex.]
In my view, the Holy See has too frequently sat back into its "convictions" and ignored the real and concrete ways its positions on abortion, contraception, homosexuality, and gender roles have funded the widespread abuse of children. The UN is calling the church not necessarily to change their positions, but to sit up, take responsibility, and address these criminal and moral abuses associated with these positions. I, along with so many others in this world, have great hope that the church is moving in the right direction in these matters under the leadership of Pope Francis.
I would go on to suggest, however, that if the church cannot actively and directly address these abuses of children without changing its "positions" on said social issues, its positions on these issues must be changed.
Jesus took little stock in religious convictions as such, pointing out that the purpose of God's laws – the purpose of the faith stands we take – is never for their own sake. They are for the purpose of promoting the "abundant life" Jesus wills and promises. Responding to those who accused him of breaking his convictions about the Sabbath to feed and to heal, Jesus stated the truth very directly: "Humanity is made for the Sabbath, not Sabbath for humanity."
If the lives of our children are being harmed by our religious convictions, these convictions are not of God; they have become idols of our own making.
Jesus stated the truth very directly: "Humanity is made for the Sabbath, not Sabbath for humanity."
Or did he say just the opposite? I'm weak in Aramaic.
Jim Pauwewls has filled out nicely the distinction I attemppted to draw between the Church as the world -wide community of faithand the Vatican City, a relatively recent creation to bring to conclusion an international political conflict. The basic question I have is: Can a committee or comission of the United Nations rightly issue an explicit criticism of the practices and policies at work in the community that is Catholicism? If so, I take it that it could also issue explicit criticism of pracitices in Judaism, Buddhism, etc. If it is rightly to do so, why does this committee not have to seek approbation for its criticisms from either the Un General Assembly or its Security Council? The criticism is at bottom a political criticism, perhaps also a legal criticism. At most, it is compaarable to a charge of political or legal malfeasance.
Given the status of contemporary meda coverage, the pope and Fr. Lombardi etc. had no forum in which to respond effectively to these complaints. I'd say: Unfair.
That there is the terrible prob lem of pedophelia and the defective response of so many bishops and priiests is undeniable. But it does not follow that the Church as a whole, including me, my pastor, my bishop, my pope can rightly be hauled into the court of public opinion to asnwer the charge that they should have somehow prevented all these crimes and that they are the ones who are negligent if they do not address them as the UN Committee thinks they should.
Here is a classic example of a rush to judgment on the part of people who easily presune that they occupy the moral high ground just because they are against the sins. Human justice never comes about without careful attention to the kinds of procedural issues and issues of standing, that we take to be hallmarks of the judicial system we Americans cherish.
Bernie Madoff has gotten a fairer shake than the UN Committee is giving to the church!
Bernard D, the UN Committee is responding to a report which the Holy See submitted to it. Each entity that ratified the convention is required to submit a report to the Committee every five years reporting on its progress in carrying out the obligations it undertook when it ratified the Convention - and explaining what it has done in response to the comments the Committee made after it reviewed the prior report.
In this case, the Holy See skipped submitting reports in 2007, 2102, and 2007 and submitted one consolidated report before the 2012 report was due.
6.The Holy See submits its second, third and fourth periodic reports due in 1997, 2002, 2007 respectively – including information from 1994 to early 2010 – as a consolidated document to be considered under art. 44 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC).
As I understand it, that is the document the Committee is commenting on. Its response goes through all of the issues covered by the Convention, not just clergy child abuse.
It can comment on the Catholic Church because the Holy See ratified the Convention. The other groups you mentioned didn't. As the consolidated report says:
2.The internal law of the Catholic Church defines the Holy See as the government of the universal Church composed of the Pope and of the institutions which proceed from him (cf. Code of Canon Law (CIC) 361; cf. Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches (CCEO) 48).
4.The international personality of the Holy See has never been confused with that of the territories over which it has exercised State sovereignty (e.g. the Papal States from 754 AD to 1870 and VCS since 1929). Indeed, following the end of the traditional Papal States in 1870 until the establishment of VCS in 1929, the Holy See continued to act as a subject of international law by concluding concordats and international treaties of States, participating in international conferences, conducting mediation and arbitration missions, and maintaining both active and passive diplomatic relations.
"2007, 2102, and 2007" should have been 1997, 2002, and 2007
John Hayes, I stand corrected. Thak you.


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I was going to post a link to this interview WRT his Japanese sword claims but also here, he says, on Ueshiba:
Originally Posted by Steven Seagal
Moral of this story? Never tell tall tales an interview if you're not prepared to back them up and stick by them for the rest of your life.
On Kenjutsu:
Q: I read in an article that kenjutsu is a part of your life?
Sensei: Well, to me Aikido and kenjutsu are the same thing. If you've seen my technique, I'm always cutting. Today we just did a couple of stabs at this and that, but when you watch me a lot you'll see I'm always cutting with the feet and the hand; tesabaki, ashisabaki. The hand and feet angles are all kenjutsu.Q: Many years ago, when I saw "The Challenge," I saw your name in the credits. I was wondering how you got in to do the choreography?
Sensei: This is an interesting story. I was in Kyoto and there was a sword master by the name of Onoha Ittoryu,very very good at the inside stuff .Mifune, the Japanese actor, was to do "The Challenge." The guy who choreographed all the famous director Kurosawa's stuff, "Red Beard", "Seven Samurai" and all that had just died.He was a great kenjutsu master and Onoha Sensei would not teach these people and believed I was a good swordsman. They came to me and hired me to choreograph the fighting and the sword and Mifune said, "Who is this white guy?" Mifune said to call up this Onoha guy and tell him to get down here. Onoha comes down in a Hakama and Kimono, the next day. He walks over to Mifune and says, "I came down here to tell you that this guy over here can teach sword as good, if not better than anybody I know." He bowed and left.
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Year - Oponent - Event - Win/Loss
1976: against Toon Van Oostrum (European Karate Union) > Win, 1 round KO
1977: against Maurice Devos (Netherlands Kick Boxing) > Win, 1 round TKO
1978: against Eric Bruno Strauss (European Karate Union) > Win, 1 round KO
1978: against Michel Juvillier (European Karate Union) > Win, 1 round KO
1978: against Orlando Lang (European Karate Union) > Win, 1 round TKO
1978: against Emile Leibman (World All Style) > Win, 1 round KO
1978: against Cyrille Nollet (World All Style) > Win, 1 round TKO
1979: against Andre Robaeys (World All Style) > Win, 1 round KO
1979: against Jacques Piniarski (World All Style) > Win, 1 round KO
1979: against Rolf Risberg (World All Style) > Win, 1 round KO
1979: against Sherman Bergman (World Full Contact) > Win, 1 round KO
1979: against Gilberto (Gil) Diaz (World Full Contact) > Win, 1 round TKO
1979: against Patrick Teugels (World Full Contact) > Loss, 2 round decision
1980: against Mustapha-Ahmad Benamou (European Professional) > Win, 1 round KO
1980: against Bekim-Moussa Muhammad (European Professional) > Win, 1 round TKO
1980: against Micheal J. Heming (European Professional) > Win, 2 round TKO
1980: against Georges Verlugels (Professional Karate Association) > Win, 2 round KO
1980: against Andres Kovac (Professional Karate Association) > Win, 2 round KO
1980: against Patrick Teugels (Professional Karate Association) > Win, 1 round TKO
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Style: Kendo--Originally Posted by Seagal, master douche
Itto-ryu is the school of kenjutsu that forms much of the basis for modern kendo. The name means "one sword school". Ono-ha is a well-known branch of that school. It was founded around 1630 by a guy named Ono Jirouemon Tadaaki. "Ha" just means branch, in other words it's the branch created by Ono. The current head guy is named Sasamori.
Here's an alternative account of the same incident:
I'd like to add to this thread another story about Seagal that comes out of the time he was in Japan. This story was told to me by Dave Lowry who is a contributor to Black Belt magazine. Seagal was the martial arts coordinator on the set of the movie The Final Challenge with Scott Glen. Well another man was brought in to do the sword coordination. His name was Donn Draeger. For those of you familar with early American martial artists in Japan, Donn was accomplished in judo and kenjitsu. He studied many various forms of sword work. Well, Seagal though a fit and said he knew plenty about swords, Draeger then asked Seagal for his sword creditionals- who his instructors were. Seagal said Sesiki Abe (who is a 9th dan in aikido and study aikido sword which is about as ineffective as aikido is ) Dreager commented that Abe Sensei was not a sword instructor but an aikido instructor and THEN CAME THE CHALLENGE!!!!! Seagal's honor was hurt and asked for a sword fight with bokken (wooden swords).
A stage was set up and in the audience was non other then Toshiro Mifune (star of Seven Samurai). Three rounds were fought were Seagal declared himself a winner and in actuality Draeger had "cut him" with a very subtle technique both times. The third time Draeger made contact that supposedly caused Seagal to drop his sword in pain.
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It should be noted that Draeger died in October '82 from cancer - the year in which the film in question (actually entitled 'The Challenge') was released (in July). I don't know for certain but I'd assume that the filming probably took place in late '81/early '82.
Also, according to this:
During the last of those journeys in 1979, misfortune struck Draeger and his team on the island of Sumatra. Visiting the Atjeh tribe, it appears that the entire group was somehow poisoned—perhaps deliberately—and as a result developed severe amebic dysentery requiring hospitalization. Although he recovered from the illness, Draeger began losing weight and grew increasingly weak. His legs swelled, causing great pain, and he found it difficult to walk or stand for very long. Serious training became difficult, then impossible.
After repeated visits to Tripler Army Medical Center in Honolulu, it was discovered that Draeger had cancer of the liver. Returning to his home state to die, he stayed first with his half brother before moving into a veteran's hospital. It was there, on October 20, 1982, exactly 92 years after his hero, Sir Richard F. Burton, died, that Donn F. Draeger passed away from metastasized carcinoma. He was buried at Wood National Cemetery in Milwaukee, a 50-acre final home to more than 37,000 American veterans. Draeger's grave lies in Section 4, Site 377.
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man, if Seagal challenged a cancer-riddled Draeger (& then still got wupped), then he deserves the coveted Double Douche award!"Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***
"The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19
"Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney
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Not a segal apologist, I think he's a douche bag.
He got choked out and **** his pants (?) bla bla. I wonder how many people here could go up (or have the balls to) against the same guy and come out better.
Segal is a pretty big guy who has still spent considerable time on a matt and instructing. Ya you could spend 20 years on a matt devoted to whacking people with one of those little gay fans but Im willing to bet Aikido or not segal would still kick the **** out of most of the people here. (Just saying)
He also seems to be a petty good shooter, minus the theatrics.
All the aikido mimbo jumbo aside someones physical size strength leverage and time fucking around still count.
He's still a douche.You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it


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There was a cosmic message swirling in the cool breeze of a perfect Tuesday evening: Youth shall be served. The kids came out in force on July 30 for the Mad River Riders time trial from Warren Village to the summit of Roxbury Gap, led by the terrible twosome of Ellie Curtis and Ella Hubbard.
Harwood senior-to-be Caleb Kessler, the oxymoronically elder statesman of the younger set, arrived early to be sure he had a sufficiently comprehensive warm-up for the tough 4.2-mile ride. And Toby Lanser arrived more or less accidently, passing the start while on a casual evening ride with his dad and finding himself talked into racing. Ya gotta love the kid's enthusiasm and spur-of-the-moment spunk.
Meanwhile, a few grown-ups came out to play, too, with the best among them being Pat Campbell and Audrey Huffman. For a while, it appeared that the winner might be that grand old gent, the now-skinny Bob Dillon, who has been training and racing so hard that it looks like he could hide behind a blade of grass. Dillon's mighty speedy time of 25:11 stood atop the scoreboard for a while, three seconds quicker than the time of archrival oldster Bruce Bell. But Campbell, 27 years Dillon's junior and starting late in the order, put a serious hurting on Dillon's daydream, arriving at the top of the gap in a winning time of 22:54.
Huffman, of course, is the Natural. There have been no known sightings of her out on the road training and the last evidence of her engaged in any athletic activity was a Facebook photo of her putting at the Sugarbush Golf Club. (Whether she made the putt or not is an unknown.) Presumably this was not how she prepared to make her way onto the U.S. world-championship mountain bike team in 2001. But so what? She is always, preternaturally, ready to rumble. The result: a time of 27:34 that challenged the course record. Go figure.
But back to the story of those crazy kids. The terrible twosome of Ella and Ellie got a jump start on the rest of the field, heading up the gap early at a robust pace with the patriarchal Taylor Hubbard serving as an escort to be sure the game between the two was not disrupted by rivalrous shenanigans.
Ellie, as it turned out, had a considerable technological advantage. Pulling a sleek, Ferrari-red road bike out of the ample Curtis family stable of high-tech, two-wheeled machinery, she was riding the far faster steed, with Ella aboard her trustworthy but speed-challenged mountain bike. Ellie gritted her braced teeth and pulled out ahead, eventually charging to the finish a few minutes ahead of Ella. Ella's consolation was knowing that, having registered her personal-best time for the course, she beat her dad by more than a minute.
Kessler, given that he is now on the cusp of adulthood, rode with the authority of a grown-up to finish on the cusp of the podium, with the impressive fourth-place time of 25:39. Maybe if his pit-crew chief, father Gary, had prepped his bike with proper climbing gears, the manchild might have just nudged his way into the top three. Regardless, a fine ride. And the gumption, if not necessarily the speed, of the yellow-jerseyed Lanser was something to behold. His energy stores depleted from his earlier ride, he still stomped on the pedals with force and fury to make it to the top.
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Professor Richard Ellis has written or co-edited 13 books and numerous journal articles on the American presidency and American political culture, and he's frequently quoted in national and regional media for his expertise. But if you ask him to discuss his research, he would rather steer the conversation towards teaching.
"You can learn so much about how to teach from people who are willing to talk about their teaching, about what works and what doesn't," he says. "I've learned a tremendous amount from watching and talking with my colleagues at Willamette."
Ellis' successful classroom style and dedication to students recently garnered him the prestigious 2008 Oregon Professor of the Year Award.
Ellis, the Mark O. Hatfield Professor of Politics, is Willamette's ninth professor to be honored. Past winners are Jerry Gray, economics, 2005; Suresht Bald, politics, 2003; William Duvall, history, 1998; Daniel Montague, physics, 1995; Arthur Payton, chemistry, 1994; Roger Hull, art history, 1993; Mary Ann Youngren, psychology, 1991; and Frances Chapple, chemistry, 1990.
"I feel honored to be in the same category as the other outstanding Willamette professors who have received this award," Ellis says. "The award is an affirmation for me that it's possible to be both a good scholar and a good teacher."
Ellis has already received quite a bit of attention for his scholarship. To the Flag: The Unlikely History of the Pledge of Allegiance was featured on National Public Radio's "Fresh Air" and received the Langum Prize in Legal History. His latest, Presidential Travel: The Journey from George Washington to George W. Bush, came out during the height of election season and had reporters nationwide calling to discuss the history of presidents on the road.
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Walker is one of many students who worked one on one with Ellis to assist with his scholarly work while simultaneously learning how to write and research. "In the acknowledgement pages of five books, Ellis thanks 33 different Willamette undergraduates who worked as research assistants on those projects," College of Liberal Arts Dean Carol Long says. "It is a rare undergraduate professor who has done so much to introduce his or her students to the joys and rigors of research."
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A 15-year-old boy was in custody on Monday, following a series of shooting incidents in New Ellenton on Saturday night in which three dogs were injured. His arrest, which took place around 2:45 p.m. yesterday in Aiken, was a team effort involving the New Ellenton Police Department and the South Carolina Department of Juvenile Justice.
The suspect "lives in New Ellenton, but he attends school in Aiken," said Sgt. Hugh Ray of the New Ellenton Police Department. "He will be transported to Columbia and incarcerated there until he has a hearing in Family Court within 24 to 48 hours. The charges pending against him are one count of unlawful possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime, three counts of animal cruelty and one count of threatening public officials."
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New Ellenton law enforcement officials learned there was trouble in the small city south of Aiken on Saturday when they received a phone call around 7 p.m. "about two young men discharging a firearm on Sizemore Avenue," Ray said.
Three dogs suffered gunshot wounds even though there were pleas from bystanders not to hurt the animals, according to Ray. Two of the dogs had to be taken to a veterinary clinic for treatment, but the other one "was just grazed," he reported.
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After harming the dogs, the two suspects fled, "firing into the air a couple of times," according to Ray. A search that involved the Aiken County Bloodhound Tracking Team was unsuccessful, but, afterward, "the community came together, and we started receiving tips," Ray said. "We followed those leads, and they led us to where we are today. We appreciate the cooperation of everyone. That's what it takes to get a violent crime resolved in an expeditious manner."
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KOed an overrated Louis Cane.
Won a controversial dec against Jason Brilz
Lost consecutive fights to Ryan Bader and Phil Davis
Beat an over the hill and washed up Tito Ortiz
Won a boring, totally uninteresting fight with Rashad Evans.
Add in the injuries and the fights he's had to pull out of, and I'd say he's on the downhill slide of his career. I think he gets beat, hell handled by Goose, Jones, Sonnen (I just died a little inside), Glover and probably Davis in a rematch. This is as close as he'll get to a title shot.
What a tool.
I really believe that people like Bill Murray or John Belushi are just as great and just as valid as Robert De Niro or Al Pacino. And I don't think you can say One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) is a better movie than Animal House (1978); they're different genres. I think they're both examples of great craftsmanship.
-Sam Rockwell
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Got a lot of soul searching to do. Sorry to everyone I've let down
The gym beats Lil Nog.
And to answer your original questions; Yes DC does needs a fight at 205, and imo it should be more than one fight. Lil nog is a throw away fight, it baffles my mind that somehow a guy who has had one fight since 2011 can somehow hold onto a #5 ranking in a division - i dont care how shallow of a division it is. And Jones said he would give the rematch after Glover, it does not matter what you or anyone else says about Jones/Goose 1 as Jones was the winner and there was no need for an immediate rematch - because lets be real we have seen WAY CLOSER decisions then the one we saw that night that didnt result in rematches
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Got a lot of soul searching to do. Sorry to everyone I've let down
Exactly why I dislike Jones now the last while, he talks to much shit that doesn't even make sense. Ever since he wouldn't fight Chael and the event was cancelled he's been pissing me off. He lost the Gus fight, no doubt IMO.. He knew he lost after that fight.
He asked for Glover instead of Gus, because he doesn't want to fight Gus again so he is worried about who he is fighting, what an idiot.. Fight who is put in front of you and don't bitch about who else is fighting who.
Fedor Emelianenko is the Greatest P4P MMA fighter to ever walk the earth, hands down.
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-After years of opening for bigger names and selling out the Tower Theatre, Brandi Carlile is back in Bend Saturday to headline the Les Schwab Amphitheater. Opening act Blitzen Trapper is awesome, too. We talked to both of them.
-In Feedback, I went on a bit of a rant about online vigilantism, spurred by some of the stuff that happened on Facebook earlier this week after Bend Roots Revival organizers canceled their festival.
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Did the election go to suit you? I hope so. You did vote, didn't you? If you didn't, you have one more chance this year to do your duty.
This next one is the biggie. It's the one where we decide the direction of the country. Do we want to stay on the course of philosophical, moral, and financial ruin or do we want to change direction. Back to a more traditional American attitude. You, the voters, are the ones to answer that question.
Speaking of voting, I hear people say on a fairly frequent basis that they don't think their vote counts. I disagree with the premise. Just ask the guy at Clayton who lost the school board election by one vote.
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I think someone can be saved yet not have the baptism in the Holy Ghost. Like Mickiel says, if there's the Spirit of God around, people will know it. Because it comes in power, not in word only. If we get our eyes onto our Father and off of each other, we should see more clearly. Then, when God decides to, He will move by His Spirit. (Better sooner than later, we hope!)Bri
I think someone can be saved yet not have the baptism in the Holy Ghost. Like Mickiel says, if there's the Spirit of God around, people will know it. Because it comes in power, not in word only. If we get our eyes onto our Father and off of each other, we should see more clearly. Then, when God decides to, He will move by His Spirit. (Better sooner than later, we hope!)
Mickiel, I understand you do not believe any person has yet obtained the Holy Spirit, because you have not witnessed great works from those same or that you are just not seeing what you expect to see from Spirit filled individuals. Did you ever think about this one - all the epistles were written to people whom were acknowledged to have received the Holy Spirit, as a pledge, and yet they struggled, sinned, were always fighting, sueing each other and such, they did not have the same power and authority that was seen in deed in the apostles, whom were walking more closely to the will of God, and yet it is the apostles whom told us those babes did indeed have the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given as a pledge - for the hope of what is yet to come. Just because one has been baptized with the Holy Spirit does not mean they are completely walking in Spirit, doing only the will of God, and it does not mean that God yet intends great works (of his) to yet be accomplished through those whom are not yet tried, refined and perfected - It is through the power of the Holy Spirit that believers are converted, it is that which speaks truth to the unbelievers, imparting spiritual truth, so they know that it is the truth - The Holy Spirit is given as a pledge, and this initial pledge is what you seem to be confusing with the perfected man. IMO.
You know, and I think God has already thought this out. He knew that certain humans, once he pricked them, would respond in this manner. So hes already prepared to deal with this. He's getting something out of this, and I think it goes like this: Dangle eternal life in front of greedy unknowing humans. Prick some of their minds with the truth. Observe how they covet that eternal life. Dangle the calling to them. Prep their atmosphere with the oncomming, looming blessings that is God. Then make the first last, and the last first. Put those who covet so much that they jumped out of line, in the back, and place those who the first thought was not being considered, into the relm that they coveted.
Men want and desire to see God put people in hell. Why? Well it reinforces their own self worth. They feel they have made it, they are the gold, and they feel the garbage must be removed.
And this is what I think God will do, because it fits the pattern of God, who has always done what seems impossible to do. The temptation of life is one thing, but the temptation of eternal life, oh how that will seduce.
I think one of the most dangerous humans ever, are those who believe God has annointed them, and he has not.
But I think God wants them lumped into the same pile,
After the church of God died down when it did
Jesus in Luke 13:20;" To what shall I compare the Kingdom of God? It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three pecks of meal, until it was all leavened." Jesus hid the Kingdom, and preached of its revealing and comming.
You know, the funny thing is that when I get involved in certain conversations with people, and they tell me I am being used by worldly Spirits, I often wonder if thats my calling. To be some kind of bad clay in Gods hands. I tell him I would rather be dead. I recall one group I used to communicate with, and they told me they think I am being used by God to " Try the Church." Do you know what thats like, to look into the mirror, and not know your calling. Your purpose. You drag on into the next day and hope for change.
Mickiel:Personally, I like the input you give on this forum. You're direct and you speak what's in your heart, and I think that's a blessing from the Lord. Many people who claim to be Christians don't know what's in their heart. (I hope I am not that way myself..!)You are not afraid to look for the truth wherever it may be found. Again, many Christians don't know how to look for truth, even if it hit them on the head. (Again, I hope I am not that way myself, and I have to keep a constant lookout!!!!)It would seem that man's nature likes to categorize people. But God looks on the heart, because He knows that it's more complicated than that..Bri
Well I think thats possible, but I believe they will be middle eastern. Interesting what your Father believed. And yes that billboard wouldnot last a week in America, Jesus was not American and he was not White, two things many are not comfortable with. And he was not a Universalist by religion, he was by his gift of Salvation and Eternity. Just because a person is a Universalist, does not mean that know the Truth. But many White American men have sought to trace the truth, but they try to keep it American, which is useless effort in my view.I consider the effort to claim the Kingdom of God is now within, along these same lines. Trust me, if the Kingdom of God was anything like the people who now claim it, it would be contaminated already. Few people realize how dead they are, until they come out of the graveyard of their beliefs.I think the Truth has not been opened on the earth in its fullness, nor any other gift of God. If the Kingdom of God was on Earth, or within people, that fullness would also be.Peace.
Mickiel:I think what you're expecting (a fullness of the Spirit) is Tabernacles. Brian
The people Immediately had power, unheard up power, they each could understand different languages. This is not human ability, nor self manufactored evidence of the Spirit. I could no more understand another language instantly, than I could ressurect myself from death.
But God states something in vs.17;" I will pour forth my Spirit upon ALL mankind, in the last days." As there were residents from Medes, Elamites, Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, Asia, Libya, Egypt, Cyrene , Rome, both Jews and Arabs, all present
Prophets will be made immediately, vs.17.
EVERYONE who believes what these people preach and teach, will be saved, vs.21.
There is NO scenerio that I see that even comes close to this occuring now.
I am often blessed by what is shared by people with whom I'm not in complete agreement. Actually, if that wasn't the case, who could ever be blessed by another, seeing how different everybody is from everybody else? I can get too mentally picky and betray my welcoming heart. Don't forget, Mickiel, I complimented your beginning posts. I found them to be very creatively stimulating.
Mickiel and reFORMer:Personally, I believe that BOTH of you are right! In fact, it seems that you do not contradict each other at all!


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The WolfVision Desktop Visualizer, or document camera is a presentation tool that allows you project images of almost object or document that will fit onto its platform. Sea shell or maps, textbooks or art projects, these items can be instantly shared with your class. The system even allows you to snapshot images that can be saved to the hard drive. Old overhead transparencies can be imaged instantly and saved into a digital format for future use without the need to ever use an overhead projector again.
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Document cameras are already located in many classroom consoles on campus, typically they are housed in a drawer in the side of the unit. The number of units is growing as classrooms are continuously renovated and new equipment installed. Document cameras can be used with either a Mac or PC (many classrooms are now dual boot) and replace the need for overhead projectors with the benefit of many additional features. The zoom feature allows you to really focus in on detail of an item, for instance the detail on our currency. Full motion recording allows you to capture movement to your computer for future playback. Items/documents can also be turned into digital images in a snap. It cal also be used just like an overhead projector by placing a piece of white paper or a photocopies document on the surface for markup. Great for flowcharts, mathematical formulas, and more. Instructors are finding this classroom tool useful across disciplines.
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The document camera allows you to:
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Many classrooms at USD already have document cameras. Contact Instructional Media Services (IMS) to find out where these are located.
Training/Demos are in Maher 186, or, they can come to your classroom
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It is time to fight Big wind and any support for wind projects by our leaders should be seen as an endorsement for corruption. The truth is that this industry was built on fraud. Despite the propaganda and media hype, wind energy per kilowatt, is the most costly and destructive form of energy production we have today. There is absolutely nothing to embrace about selling out the environment for a token amount of energy.
It took a while to set in but people across the world are finally waking up to the decades of deceit and the horrific impacts caused by the wind industry. Word is out about the blatant corruption, agency collusion and the industry's rigged studies. As a result communities are being forced to fight back against fragmented ecosystems, infrasound, falling property values, the slaughtering of the bird populations, and hideous view sheds.
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So excited to announce this… Vero Profumo made public the final promotional images for Rozy this evening on Facebook.
Remember my little secret project I went on about in my last post? Well here it is :P
Tattoo inspired artwork by yours truly ;) WOOOO
Oh and here's the little bio I wrote for Vero Profumo explaining the designs a little more…
"I have been a tattoo artist working in Birmingham, UK, for only 2 years now, so I still feel that I am very early on in my career. Aside from my work, fragrance is my passion, and the opportunity to create these pieces for Vero Profumo's amazing Rozy was the perfect opportunity to combine everything I love into one project. I settled on a style that is true to my own, but keeping true to traditional tattoo artwork, using lady faces (here, similarly inspired, structurally, by Anna Magnani), hands, and of course roses so that the artwork is immediately recognizable as tattoo related. The modern meets traditional twist on the art works, reference that of Vero's work also – a mix of modern and highly unique concepts and nuances, on top of traditional, almost vintage structures… one of the reasons Vero's work is so brilliant. I made the references to Rozy literal, combining ingredients, colours and textures to represent both the Voile d'Extrait and Eau de Parfum concentrations – yet they all tie together as a collection.
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The Bachelor Recap: Catherine Restores Sean's Faith in Finding His Wife
Please grab the hoof of your nearest goat friend (we've guilt-adopted an entire herd thanks to last night's udder violations), and join us on this beautiful journey to Canada, where Sean Lowe forces his ladies into frigid ice water and watches them turn blue like Leonardo DiCaprio circa The Titanic. Eh, guys? EH? We will never stop referencing that brilliant movie. Also good news: Sean is once agains shirtless, which means we can resume our erotic fan fiction in which we milk "goat udders" with Sean for hours. And by "goat udders," we mean lots of different things.
Ice Age
Catherine Giudici has been waiting so long for a one-on-one date with Sean. Like, longer than the silken waterfall otherwise known as her ombre haircicle. But does she get picked up in a helicopter or driven around in a limo? Nope, she's forced to stand on top of a terrifying glacier until Sean graces her with his presence. And then he sticks her in a onesie and pushes her down a snow-covered hill during a blizzard. We're so worried about Sean's subtle death threats. Stop trying to kill people in avalanches, buddy. Also, we love your cowl neck.
Luckily, Catherine makes it out alive, and Sean celebrates by forcing her into an ice castle whittled by some poor ABC intern, which is — duh — decorated in ice roses. Meta castles, guys. We're writing a thesis right now, and it's this recap.
Despite the fact that they're pretty much frozen, Catherine and Sean get their bond on all over the place, make love with their tongues, and real-talk about this one time a tree fell on Catherine's friend and killed her. Which basically had us crying all over our meat lover's pizza, which is weird because Catherine's a vegan. We know — just go with it. (Even though ladies who don't eat bacon have no place standing next to Sean's abs.)
So, does Sean give Catherine a rose? Of course he does — they're even cuter than Sarah's dog! You know, the one Sean brought to visit in a limo which hasn't been heard from since? Pouring puppy chow out for you, buddy.
Polar Plunge
Remember when the ladies tried to canoe in Montana and ended up flopping around in a giant bush? Apparently, Sean was super impressed. So impressed that he asks his gal pals to hop in even more canoes (presumably because he has a Pocahontas fetish), strip down to their swimsuits, and dive into the freezing cold water. Because that seems totally safe and not at all homicidal.
As you might expect, Tierra LiCausi frolicks so hard that she gets hypothermia, turns blue and ends up being shrouded in an orange plastic condom by some random lifeguard who is clearly terrible at his job. The good news? Girlfriend survives. The bad news? Sean visits her ward, where Tierra's just like this angelic being hooked up to an oxygen monitor, and he once again tries to stroke her upper-inner thighs.
Please bridle your passions, Sean. We know your nipples are erect at the image of Tierra in a hospital gown, but gird those loins. GIRD THEM. Oh, and in other news, Selma Alameri is so horrified by the suicidal nature of the group date, that she's just like "peace out, homies," and spends the afternoon slow laughing.
On that note, time for cocktail hour. You might think Tierra would sit this thing out thanks to being, you know, frozen like a big snowman, but she breaks out of her hotel room and meanders over to the party for a quick cuddle session. Of course, Sean is too busy breaking up with Sarah Herron to care. That's right, this hunky cowboy isn't feeling the love, and it's not because of Sarah's arm so don't even go there.
Brokeback Mountain
Oh, don't worry. It's just Sean doing what he does best — rappelling down an enormous mountain with an innocent damsel in distress by his side. Yep, our favorite super-stud takes Desiree Hartsock on her second one-on-one date, and then flings her off a 400-foot cliff. We're so concerned about this dude's idea of romance. As well as the fact that all of ABC's producers are turning a blind eye to his doom-themed dates. OMG, thought: Is Sean the Grimm Reaper?
Anyway, Desiree manages to rappel her way to Sean's heart, and he rewards her spunkiness with a tree climbing session and a teepee hang-sesh, wherein they frolick with forest animals, make friends with a Yeti, catch dreams in dream catchers, chuck wood with woodchucks, and spin themselves felt booties out of goat fur (too soon?).
Just kidding, Sean and Desiree simply chat about their life problems and make out! Or, at least we assume they make out. It's kind of hard to tell considering that all we can see is their shadows against buckskin. Buckskin made of goats. (Goat jokes will never die.) Also, shoutout to that traumatized moose who is currently deaf thanks to Sean and Desiree screaming "HELLO CANADA" at him.
The Rose Ceremony
Sean's life is so hard. He spends all week skipping through the wilderness in glee, and then suddenly he's faced with the grueling task of deflowering one of his ladies. And considering that Sean is a reclaimed virgin, any kind of deflowering is really hard for his abs to stomach, even though his abs are on his stomach. But someone needs to go, and this week Sean gives Daniella McBride and Selma the axe. Auf Wiedersehen, ladies.


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