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So, I've got this new podcast thing I'm doing, called "Off Topic with Jeff McGinnis." You may not have heard about it, as I've only mentioned it on the WSPD show, my Facebook and Twitter pages, and if you happened to randomly run into me on the street. It's an interview show where I ask folks about unusual subject matter, and I'm enjoying my work on it a lot.
One of my favorite parts of the show comes at the end — inspired by a deleted scene from Quentin Tarantino's "Pulp Fiction." Just before he takes her out on their not-a-date, Vincent Vega (played by John Travolta) is subjected to a series of questions by Mia Wallace (Uma Thurman). She precedes this with an explanation:
"My theory is that when it comes to important subjects, there's only two ways a person can answer. For example, there's two kinds of people in the world: Beatles people and Elvis people. Now, Beatles people can like Elvis, and Elvis people can like the Beatles. But nobody likes them both equally. Somewhere, you have to make a choice, and that choice tells me who you are."
So, I figured I'd ask people who came on the show the same questions Mia asks Vincent, to see what other folks would say. I've found the myriad answers I've gotten to these simple, one-way-or-the-other questions have been very interesting —and, as Tarantino's script suggests, in their own way, they're a window into who a person is.
Some samples:
Question One: Elvis or Beatles?
Jonathan Coulton, musician: "Beatles, obviously. Anybody who thinks otherwise is wrong."
Elle Alexandra, model and actress: "Elvis. His hips, need I say more?"
Dave Meltzer, wrestling journalist: "That's a function of when you grew up, I think. So I would have to say the Beatles, but when I got older — when I was a kid, Elvis wasn't that big, and then he died. And the Beatles were huge, but they ended their run when I was very young as well, but Paul McCartney, and John Lennon to an extent, were still around and big stars. But as I got older, I started to really appreciate how big Elvis was. So it's a lot closer now."
Maria Kanellis, model and wrestler: "Beatles. I love the Beatles, but I hate saying the Beatles because my grandma is obsessed with Elvis. She one time broke her arm falling out of a tree trying to look into the Elvis compound."
Dirk Manning, comic book author: "I cannot stand the Beatles. You'll notice I didn't say I liked Elvis, either, but I'll go Elvis."
Question Two: Brady Bunch or Partridge Family?
Molly McIsaac, blogger and reality star: "Brady Bunch. I loved the Brady Bunch when I was little."
drmk, writer of "You Suck at Craigslist": "Partridge Family, because you know there was more going on there than they wanted to let on."
Shaun Hegarty, Toledo newsman: "Partridge Family. Little more modern, little more edgy, little better hair."
Max Temkin, co-creator of "Cards Against Humanity": "I gotta pick one? What do I know about them … they're both sitcom families, there's a lot of children and, presumably, there's hijinks. Brady Bunch."
Question Three: What's your favorite way to say "thanks" in a foreign language?
Jessica Joy, actress: "Merci."
Grendel, creator of "WTFHistory": "No, no, no, give me a second, I am totally not flunking German, give me a second … uh… Danke!"
Molly Lewis, musician: "I don't speak that many foreign languages, but I know 'Kamsahamnida,' which is Korean. And I actually can't say it without bowing a little, reflexively. As you do."
Temkin: "Quatlho'!" (Klingon.)
Question Four: In conversation, do you listen, or do you wait to talk?
Jim Beard, Toledo Free Press columnist and writer: "I'm listening to you, but it's gotta be wait to talk. I think my wife would absolutely say that I — and half the time, I don't even wait to talk, and you know that."
Jim Cornette, wrestling manager: "I do both. No, seriously, because if you don't listen, then you can't figure out how to rebut, refute and/or discourage the opposing viewpoint that you're being presented with."
Storm, of musical group Paul and Storm: "It's situational, I will say that. But generally, listen."
Demetrius Nicodemus, "The Morning Rush": "I would like to think I listen … but 65 percent of the time, I think I wait to talk."
Question Five: If you were Archie, Betty or Veronica?
Beard: "It's funny, I don't like blondes, but I don't like Veronica."
Temkin: "I'll say Veronica. … I don't know who those characters are."
Joy: "Betty is the blonde, right?"
Hegarty: "Wasn't there a redhead in there?"
Abby Bollenbacher, former Face of Fox Toledo: "I don't get it."
…and now you see why this last question has since been retired.
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Web applications aren't, in most cases, real replacements for desktop software. Google Docs or Zoho will never be as fast, as powerful or as easy to use as Microsoft Office or OpenOffice, but their other strengths could convince some people to use them.
On the other hand, Gmail and Google Reader could easily replace many desktop email clients and feed readers, as most of the time when you read your mail or news you're online.
Browsers' limitations, security risks, latency, the lack of offline access are serious problems that won't be solved too soon and will continue to prevent many web applications to become real alternatives for their desktop relatives.
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UFC 168 may have been one of the promotions most highly anticipated events in its history, and to have it end in the manner that it did, was clearly one of the years low lights. If you missed it, the rematch between Chris Weidman and Anderson Silva was stopped in round two, after the latter badly broke his left leg. It was a horrific and unfortunate conclusion to the nights main event.
The UFC has released the following statement regarding Silvas subsequent surgery and future:
So, hopefully Silva has a speedy recovery and it remains to be seen whether the 38 year-old legend will return to the Octagon. Considering the fighters age, the severity of the injury, and the fact it was his second loss to Weidman, it wouldnt be surprising if Silva calls it quits. Then again, we are talking about the sports greatest fighter to dateFollowing Saturday evenings UFC 168 main event, former champion Anderson Silva was taken to a local Las Vegas hospital where he underwent surgery to repair a broken left leg. The successful surgery, performed by Dr. Steven Sanders, the UFCs orthopedic surgeon, inserted an intramedullary rod into Andersons left tibia. The broken fibula was stabilized and does not require a separate surgery. Anderson will remain in the hospital for a short while, but no additional surgery is scheduled at this time. Recovery time for such injuries may vary between three and six months.
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I just bought a new 1TB external drive, but my computer is only showing that it has 902GB on it! What's the deal? Am I getting scammed out of 100GB?
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Dear Greedy,
Your hard drive may be reporting a smaller number for a few reasons, but the first thing you should know is that you probably aren't being "scammed" out of data—that number is completely normal. Here's why.
External Drives Often Come With Software Installed
The first (but less important) explanation is that many external drives come with software from the manufacturer, like backup software or something similar. Generally, we recommend getting rid of this, as it's rarely better than the stuff you can download online (like our favorite backup program, Crashplan). So, while it probably won't free up a ton of space, you should probably format that drive before you do anything else.
If you're a Windows user, just right-click on the drive in Windows Explorer and choose "Format". Format it to NTFS if you're planning on storing a lot of data (like music or a backup), and FAT32 or ExFAT if you plan on using it to transport files between Macs and Windows PCs.
If you're a Mac user, go to /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility, and click on the drive in the left sidebar. Click the "Erase" tab in the middle pane, then choose your file system from the dropdown. Mac OS Extended (Journaled) is the best default option for storing a lot of data, but FAT32 and ExFAT are better if you're using it on Mac and Windows PCs.
Once you've formatted it, you won't have those annoying software popups when you plug it in, and you should have a bit of extra free space on the drive.
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Here's the bigger reason you have less space: computers are based on binary math, which means storage is counted using base 2—not base 10, which is what you see on the box. So, while we measure a kilobyte as 1,000 bytes, Windows actually refers to a kilobyte as 1,024 bytes. Similarly, a megabyte is actually 1,024 kilobytes, a gigabyte is 1,024 megabytes, and so on. That means the actual amount of space on the drive is going to be lower than what you're told, with the difference being bigger as you get to bigger drives. In general, for each gigabyte reported on the box, you'll have about 70MB less space when you plug it in—which means that your 1TB drive has closer to 900GB as measured by Windows.
There isn't much you can do about this, unfortunately. If you're a Mac or Linux user, you should update your software, since more recent versions of OS X (10.6 and up) and Ubuntu (10.10 and up) actually use base 10 to report storage space and file sizes, which should make it easier for you to judge (that's also why if you move a file from a Windows machine to a Mac, the file will appear bigger, even though it isn't—it's being measured with base 10). Unfortunately, there's no way to "fix" the problem in Windows—you just need to know that you'll get a little less space than what you see on the box, and act accordingly. If you have 1,000GB of data, a 1TB drive won't be enough, and you'll want to buy a 1.5TB instead. It doesn't matter whether it's internal, external, or even a thumb drive—this affects every kind of drive out there.
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Google Chrome 5's dev build has a feature that detects the language of a web page and lets you translate it without opening a new page. The feature is borrowed from Google Toolbar, but Google Chrome is the first browser that translates web pages without requiring an add-on.
When you visit a page written in another language, Chrome shows an infobar that asks if you want to translate the web page. You can ignore the message, change the language that was automatically detected or translate the web page. If you click on "Translate", Google Chrome will translate the page and will no longer prompt you when you click on a link from the page.
"Look for the blue translation bar at the top of the page, whenever you come across a page written in a language that doesn't match the browser interface language you've selected. Translation is currently available for 52 languages. If you choose to translate a page, the text of that page is sent to Google's translation service for translation. Your cookies are not sent along with that request and, if the page you are on is encrypted with SSL, Chrome also sends the translation request over SSL," explains Google.
If you click on the "Options" button, Chrome lets you disable translation for the current language or for the site you're visiting. For now, there's no option to disable the feature or to manage a blacklist of domains and languages.
While this feature is brilliant and it work for almost any web page, including web apps like Gmail or Google Docs, I'm not sure if it's a great idea to translate pages encrypted with SSL. Someone could click on the "Always translate" option and inadvertently send confidential information to Google's servers.
To try this feature, install Chrome dev channel, a buggier and less polished version of Chrome, or wait until a stable Chrome 5 build is released. A similar implementation is available in Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer and Firefox. There's also a Chrome extension for translating web pages.
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I have no idea if anybody will play, but it's something that would amuse me, so without further preamble, here is the first article with a partially identified set of references: "I Wish".
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Two-Course Feast of Stage and Song
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November 10, 2013, Sunday
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David Gibson January 3, 2014 - 10:20am
Two addresses by Pope Francis are making the rounds today, both of which provide further insights into his approach to his vocation, as pontiff and as a Jesuit. He seems to still consider himself very much one of the latter. "We Jesuits," Francis said in addressing many of his confreres as he visited the Gesu' in Rome, the mother church of the Society of Jesus.
He was also celebrating the canonization of Peter Faber, the Jesuit whose life of engagement and searching Francis appears to find deeply resonant.
AsiaNews has a report on the pope's powerful homily, which is worth reading in its entirety. This passage has jumped out as an important signpost:
"The temptation, that maybe many of us experience, and many other people have comes to mind; that of linking the proclamation of the Gospel with inquisitorial beatings of condemnation. No, the Gospel is preached gently, fraternally, with love."
That idea was also echoed in Francis' talk in November with the heads of religious communities of men meeting in Rome -- a three-hour conversation characteristic of this pope. According to an official report released today by Civilta' Cattolica (pdf here), at one point -- also indiscussing formation -- Francis said:
"Formation is a work of art, not a police action. We must form their hearts. Otherwise we are creating little monsters. And then these little monsters mold the People Of God. This really gives me goose bumps."
Can Francis change the direction of the church in this regard? It would be yet another welcome shift from the recent past. But it will require transforming a church culture, not just setting new policies.
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Mr. Gibson - this is music to the ears of any good formation director. But, then, put this in context of recent history in terms of the seminary investigation: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/features/index.cfm?recnum=60273
But, keep in mind, recent changes by Francis:
Control of seminaries had been transferred to the Congregation for the Clergy from the Congregation for Catholic Education by a B!6 MP
However one of Francis first major moves was to send the Prefect Cardinal Piacenza to the be Apostolic Penitentiary
Cardinal Piacenza was appointed only three years ago by Pope Benedict XVI. He was a staunch defender of the traditional image of the priest. He saw the solution to the shortage of priests not in relaxations, but rather as a result of too many accommodations.Cardinal Piacenza had initiated visitations of the seminaries immediately, especially the numerous Roman seminaries.
Francis installed as the new Prefect of the Congregation of the Clergy a person who had been President of the Diplomatic Academy of the Holy See since 2007 and thus responsible for the training of diplomats of the Church. Francis has also revamped the Congregation for Catholic Education reducing the influence of Europeans and increasing that of Latin America and Asia.
So wherever seminaries ends up under Curia reform it looks like Francis minded people are going to be in charge.
Thanks, David. How beautiful he is. The conversation reported by Civilta' Cattolica is amazing.
Does this pope ever understand clerical culture. Seminaries not only oftentimes create monsters but convert many of the good candidates coming in into monsters. Greeley would have been proud. Andrew Greeley was one of the few willing to acknowledge the monsters in the clergy. "I'll never stop being Catholic, despite the fact that many of the current leaders of the institutional church are corrupt thugs, from the parish right up to the Vatican." Many clergy and religious get offended by these remarks. The right response is to do something about it.
"But in life it is difficult for everything to be clear, precise, outlined neatly," the pope continued. "Life is complicated; it consists of grace and sin."
"He who does not sin is not human," said the pope. "We all make mistakes and we need to recognize our weaknesses. A religious who recognizes himself as weak and a sinner does not negate the witness that he is called to give, rather he reinforces it, and this is good for everyone."
"What I expect of you therefore is to give witness," he said. "I want this special witness from religious."
I meant to finish. The last quote from Francis above. Here he is attacking the religious and priestly culture which almost acts as if they are not sinners. Francis says mingle in with the people and give witness. Show yourself as a witness who is also a sinner. Such a departure from the Alter Christus language which is pompous and spiritually devoid.
BTW, the gimlet-eyed Jim Pauwels noted (privately, to spare me further mortification) that in my original post, now amended, I said that Francis went to the Gesu' for the Feast of the Holy Name of Jesus, which is in fact today, not yesterday. I think a Jesuit had first told me that was the reason for his visit, and of course I trusted him, which I should never do...
The Feast is today in fact. Now, off to penance for me!
Hanging around with Jesuits is penance enough! Go in peace my friend! (kidding of course!)
I don't think Francis is being especially Jesuit in the way he thinks about women, though ... one of the documents to emerge from General Congregation 34 was "Jesuits and the situation of women in church and civil society" ... http://www.sjweb.info/documents/sjs/docs/Dr%2014_ENG.pdf
And on March 18, 1977,, the faculty of the Jesuit School of Theology in Berkeley published an open letter to the Apostolic Delegate in The Los Angeles Times in response to the Vatican's 1976 document declaring women could never be priests. I can't link to the letter (An Open Letter to the Apostolic Delegate), but it's in Commonweal's archives and I posted a bit of it here ... http://povcrystal.blogspot.com/2013/10/jesuit-school-of-theology-berkele...
It's worth mentioning that not one but two Jesuit theologians are among the citations in Francis's apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium. It would be interesting to know if there has ever been a document of the magisterium that cites two Jesuits before.
Henri de Lubac, SJ (1896-1991) is quoted in n. 93, specifically his book Meditation sur l'Eglise, on the topic of spiritual worldliness. Later, in n. 229, the Spanish-born Ismael Quiles, SJ, (1906-1993) and his book Filosofia de la educacion personalista is cited on the topic of unity and reconciliation of differences.
Henri de Lubac is, of course, well known. In fact, it occurred to me when I saw the citation in EG that I think he has also been quoted in encyclicals by both Paul VI and John Paul II, but I'd need to do some checking to be sure. (Can anyone confirm that?) If that's accurate, he may be the most often cited non-official source in church documents in modern times (perhaps in all time).
Though born in Spain, Ismael Quiles did much of his work in Argentina, especially at Universidad de Salvador in Buenos Aires, before his death in 1993. He also spent time as a visiting professor at Georgetown University in the United States.
PS - a few other Jesuits have also spoken for women's ordination: Robert Egan SJ had a couple of essays in Commonweal, one of them is here ... https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/why-not-0
And William A Barry SJ wrote on the subject in his book, "Paying Attention to God: Giscernment in Prayer" ...http://www.amazon.com/Paying-Attention-God-Discernment-Prayer/dp/0877934134
And then there was Karl Rahner SJ too ... http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1982/feb/04/the-dream-of-karl-r...
Sorry - that should be "Discernment" :)
Mr. Hudock:
The Vatican website--vatican.va--has an excellent search engine. If you type in names like ""de Lubac," "Congar," "von Balthasar," "Guardini," "Claudel," etc., you can find how often any of them appears in official documents.
Another interesting Pope Francis - Jesuit connection: The Joy of the Gospel (the title of the recent apostolic exhortation) is also the title of a book written by Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, SJ, the prominent Italian Jesuit who died in 2012 (and was often considered papabile). La Gioia del Vangelo was published in 1999 in its original Italian. In 2002, Liturgical Press published it in English, and it remains in print today: http://www.litpress.org/Products/2126/the-joy-of-the-gospel.aspx
(Full disclosure: I work for Liturgical Press.)
Thanks for the suggestion, Fr. Komonchak. It was helpful. Looks like I was mistaken about JP2 having quoted de Lubac in an encyclical, but he does get citations in two major documents from Pope Paul VI (Populorum Progressio in 1967 and Evangelii Nuntiandi in 1975), Pope Benedict's 2007 encyclical Spe Salvi, and now Francis's 2013 Evangelii Gaudium. (Also a bunch of mentions in more insignificant letters and audiences.) Not bad!
Mr. Hudock,
Pope Francis' appreciation of Henri de Lubac is shared by Benedict XVI who cited de Lubac prominently in the encyclical Spe Salvi, numbers 13 and 14. Also, as Cardinal Ratzinger, he contributed the laudatory "Foreword" to de Lubac's Catholicism (published, alas, not by Liturgical Press, but by Ignatius Press).
Thank God someone is speaking about the problem of seminary formation. Having been studying with seminarians for a decade and a half, and having known many more in and around the institutions where I've studied, I know that the cult of secrecy is necessarily a big part of seminarians' lives. The reason is not that they are ashamed of who they are and what they think and do, but because there are, still, even after the reforms of Pope Benedict in this regard, "gatekeepers" to seminaries who still, even in 2014, think that "conservatives" should not be ordained. From all I hear, things are much better than in the 80s, where almost anywhere, saying the rosary in the chapel would raise suspicions. Even quietly attending the Extraordinary Form of the Mass is now tolerated by some faculties. But generally speaking, seminarians still must be guarded in their speech and actions in order to keep their orthodoxy from showing through too clearly. If anyone wonders why the traditionalist communities flourish, a big reason for that is that a man can be himself openly in them. (If this sounds completely backwards, well, it is. But thankfully a) it's waning and b) the Pope is on it.)
For what it's worth, I've posted an interesting look at the sources and citations of Evangelii Gaudium, at my blog this morning: http://barryhudock.wordpress.com/2014/01/04/evangelii-gaudium-exploring-the-footnotes/
Sorry, Kathy, you have completely misunderstood what Francis is saying. In fact, your approach and definition of *orthodoxy* as the be all and end all is exactly what he means when he says *little monsters*.
The type of candidate you describe is not healthy - rather,it is a form of a pietistic career focused on what is not important.
There's this:
Sorry, Kathy, you have completely misunderstood what Francis is saying. In fact, your approach and definition of *orthodoxy* as the be all and end all is exactly what he means when he says *little monsters*.
The type of candidate you describe is not healthy - rather,it is a form of a pietistic career focused on what is not important.
Or this:
"The temptation, that maybe many of us experience, and many other people have comes to mind; that of linking the proclamation of the Gospel with inquisitorial beatings of condemnation. No, the Gospel is preached gently, fraternally, with love."
As for me, I'll go with Francis.
"The type of candidate you describe is not healthy - rather,it is a form of a pietistic career focused on what is not important." I think you've just made my point rather clearly, Bill.
From the pdf:
"The formation of candidates is fundamental. There are four pillars of formation: spiritual, intellectual, communitarian and apostolic. The ghost to fight against is the image of religious life understood as an escape or hiding place in face of an "external," difficult and complex world. The four pillars should be integrated right from the first day of entrance into the noviceship, and should not be arranged sequentially. They must be interactive."
"Daily culture is much richer and conflictual than that which we experienced in our day, years ago. Our culture was simpler and more ordered. Inculturation today calls for a different attitude. For example: problems are not solved simply by forbidding doing this or that. Dialog as well as confrontation are needed."
"We must always think of the faithful, of the faithful People of God. Persons must be formed who are witness of the resurrection of Jesus. The formator should keep in mind that the person in formation will be called to care for the People of God. We always must think of the People of God in all of this. Just think of religious who have hearts that are as sour as vinegar: they are not made for the people. In the end we must not form administrators, managers, but fathers, brothers, traveling companions."
Ordinating women would violate [in my opinion as of now] the natural charism of women and men.God is neither male or female .But God chose to create us in [his] image as male or female and, one could add, as our knowledge of psychology has grown, God created us as transgendered. Though the church and humankind erred or sinned in claiming women as inferior to men, a male only priesthood is more then an expression of that error.The goodness of God is evident in the creation.A willow is not an oak. God's goodness is present in both.The charism of Jesus Christ is concretely,historically a masculine charism.God could have waited till the 1960s to incarnate as a woman but chose to incarate as a man.The call to put on Christ is a spiritual call for all humanity.That differs from the sign ,visceral sign of Christ in the world, in the church.There a masculine charism in the form of the male priest evokes the conctrete historicity of Jesus Christ,THE masculne charism. A woman does not possess that charism which Jesus chose for himself. [color, ethnicity, language are cultural changing constructs irrelevant to the genesis creation story where humanity, created in His image, is distingished by gender].If ordination is a real sacrament [outward sign] I can't see it as possible for women as they lack the masculine charism of Jesus Christ.Though women put on Jesus too their charism is [outwardly] different.A woman priest strikes me as a pretense, an act, a wannbee.Perhaps I'm just expressing a conditioned belief and the future will correct that?
I was trying to find what pope Francis might have to say to Kathy, and he does talk about forms of prayer in his apostolic exhortation, and in fact there is one mention of a rosary:
The evangelizing power of popular piety
125. To understand this reality we need to approach it with the gaze of the Good Shepherd, who seeks not to judge but to love. Only from the affective connaturality born of love can we appreciate the theological life present in the piety of Christian peoples, especially among their poor. I think of the steadfast faith of those mothers tending their sick children who, though perhaps barely familiar with the articles of the creed, cling to a rosary; or of all the hope poured into a candle lighted in a humble home with a prayer for help from Mary, or in the gaze of tender love directed to Christ crucified. No one who loves God's holy people will view these actions as the expression of a purely human search for the divine. They are the manifestation of a theological life nourished by the working of the Holy Spirit who has been poured into our hearts (cf. Rom 5:5).
Spirit-filled evangelizers
262. Spirit-filled evangelizers are evangelizers who pray and work. Mystical notions without a solid social and missionary outreach are of no help to evangelization, nor are dissertations or social or pastoral practices which lack a spirituality which can change hearts. These unilateral and incomplete proposals only reach a few groups and prove incapable of radiating beyond them because they curtail the Gospel. What is needed is the ability to cultivate an interior space which can give a Christian meaning to commitment and activity. Without prolonged moments of adoration, of prayerful encounter with the word, of sincere conversation with the Lord, our work easily becomes meaningless; we lose energy as a result of weariness and difficulties, and our fervour dies out. The Church urgently needs the deep breath of prayer, and to my great joy groups devoted to prayer and intercession, the prayerful reading of God's word and the perpetual adoration of the Eucharist are growing at every level of ecclesial life. Even so, "we must reject the temptation to offer a privatized and individualistic spirituality which ill accords with the demands of charity, to say nothing of the implications of the incarnation". There is always the risk that some moments of prayer can become an excuse for not offering one's life in mission; a privatized lifestyle can lead Christians to take refuge in some false forms of spirituality.
Personal encounter with the saving love of Jesus
264. The primary reason for evangelizing is the love of Jesus which we have received, the experience of salvation which urges us to ever greater love of him. What kind of love would not feel the need to speak of the beloved, to point him out, to make him known? If we do not feel an intense desire to share this love, we need to pray insistently that he will once more touch our hearts. We need to implore his grace daily, asking him to open our cold hearts and shake up our lukewarm and superficial existence. Standing before him with open hearts, letting him look at us, we see that gaze of love which Nathaniel glimpsed on the day when Jesus said to him: "I saw you under the fig tree" (Jn 1:48). How good it is to stand before a crucifix, or on our knees before the Blessed Sacrament, and simply to be in his presence! How much good it does us when he once more touches our lives and impels us to share his new life! What then happens is that "we speak of what we have seen and heard" (1 Jn 1:3). The best incentive for sharing the Gospel comes from contemplating it with love, lingering over its pages and reading it with the heart. If we approach it in this way, its beauty will amaze and constantly excite us. But if this is to come about, we need to recover a contemplative spirit which can help us to realize ever anew that we have been entrusted with a treasure which makes us more human and helps us to lead a new life. There is nothing more precious which we can give to others.
You may have been looking for what pope Francis might say to Kathy, but I think what you found instead is what pope Francis is saying to those who are of the view of Mr. deHaas. And boy does this Jesuit pope say it well.
The question I raised wasn't about whether women should be priests or not but about whether Francis' view about women and their role in the church is typically "Jesuit". I'm thinking: not so much.
The Pope is indeed intensely prayerful, and is unabashedly moved in public when praying to the Blessed Virgin.
"Daily culture is much richer and conflictual than that which we experienced in our day, years ago. Our culture was simpler and more ordered. Inculturation today calls for a different attitude. For example: problems are not solved simply by forbidding doing this or that. Dialog as well as confrontation are needed."
I must say, these words from Pope Francis don't resonate with me. When I think of the priests I played ball with, went to the movies with, ate dinner with…it would be laughable to think they needed to "dialog" more. Sure, there were bitter priests, frequently carping about what others had or did, shooting first and asking questions later (if at all), but they were by far the exception. I wonder if these type of priests are more the norm in Argentina or the Vatican, and that's what's motivating this admonition.
The part about dialog continues with a warning against hypocrisy - seminarians who pretend to go along with what they're supposed to do, because it's not up for discussion, and who find themselves pushed to behave with hypocrisy. So it's about dialog between seminarians and their formation director. (pp. 8-9 of the pdf linked to in the post)
Doubt that most here would agree that Kathy/Mark interpret Francis correctly?
You both cite experiences with seminarians/priests - and yet, doubt that you live with them 24/7; day after day; week after week. You cite classroom or memories but that doesn't tell you much about the candidate. After ten years of formation work with hundreds of candidates which was 24/7, day after day, you arrive at different conclusions. Do you really know these guys academically, socially? Do you know how they interact with peers, with authority, with the folks they minister to? Are they emotionally balanced? (sorry, whether they like the rosary or various pieties tells us next to nothing - but, if that is the core of who they are, then, yes, you have issues and as Francis said, you create *little monsters that mold the people of God which gives me goose bumps* )
And, Mark, you appear to pick and choose - you cite Francis' words *when you like them* but then state that others words do not resonate with you. Francis is not talking about *bitterness* or *complaining* (in fact, you seem to be complaining about what Francis is saying because it doesn't match your or Kathy's ideology - btw, priesthood is a ministry and calling; not an ideology nor an orthodoxy) and, no, Mark, this doesn't pertain only to the *norm* in Argentina or the Vatican - what a generalization and projection on your part (and is what Francis saying an *admonition* - why, Francis seems to repeatedly try to avoid the use of admonitions? But, again, you really know what he is saying via your *correct?* interpretation)
Here is a link to examples of what you both seem to advocate:
Click and scroll down and listen to these newly ordained and seminarians - suggest that these four would give Francis *goose bumps*.
Go back to the first comment to Mr. Gibson's post/topic:
(note - this is five years old; biased investigation that reads like the typical episcopal whitewashing document e.g. points fingers at religious orders (wonder what Francis would say about that?) and does surface significant issues but concludes with the comment - *but, in general, US seminaries are healthy*...not sure after reading the actual visitation document how they arrived at that conclusion)
Some things to note:
"...the report nonetheless found grave deficiencies in seminary formation before the four years of theology formation. "Almost nowhere" has a propadeutic year before the two years of philosophical formation been implemented. While most college seminaries-- in which students receive philosophical formation-- are "good," seminarians, before the four years of theology formation, are at times not formed with adequate oversight and are even not looked upon fully as seminarians. The report urged bishops to take a greater role in the acceptance or rejection of priestly formation candidates and noted that in some institutes, "lack of vocations has caused a lowering of standards," with "possible wretched consequences."
"....the report noted that in some places, bishops ordain men against the advice of rectors"
".... while in "a few places," the evaluation process was suspect-- with the non-ordained, and even non-Catholics, voting whether candidates should be ordained. "Such practices are to cease." (wonder if Francis would agree with this conclusion?)
"The report also noted many seminaries' "laxity of discipline" over students' off-campus activities-- a problem avoided by Neocatechumenal Way seminaries." (wonder if Francis would see the Neo-cats methods as forming *little monsters*?)
the sections on homosexuality - what a disconnect given that most experts say that the US priesthood is 35-50% gay.
Doubt that most would agree that Bill interprets Francis correctly.
Doubt that Bill lives with seminarians/priests 24/7.
Does Bill really know very well the priests I grew up with? Doubtful.
I do like to cite Francis' words often, though my experiences may not be identical with his. Don't think that's inconstant of me. Most experts would agree.
Never said priesthood is an ideology or orthodoxy, so any attempt to attribute that to me is straw-man building…
Wondering how Bill knows that Francis' writings are not based on his experiences in Argentina…
Bill seems to think only he knows the correct interpretation of everything Francis says/writes…assume he must be with him 24/7 (since that's the standard he holds other to).
And so forth and so on.
Bill, are you still doing formation work? Just curious. In any case I don't really understand why you have pointed to two websites that seem to work against your point of view. Four engaging young men with totally different styles, trying to communicate to other young people their reasons for embracing a difficult vocation. In a bar. This is a brave thing to do (I've done ToT and it is more intimidating than most public speaking.) And one of the main points of the bishops' study is that the seminarians would be a lot better off without the constant interference and dissent of lay formators. What I would personally like to see is as much fidelity to the Holy Spirit as possible, in an atmosphere of fraternity and freedom. (Which is pretty much what the Holy Father says.) Yes, by the way, I actually know seminarians well, a lot of them, and as geography has allowed have known many of them in their priestly lives as well. Thank God they haven't been arbitrarily barred from pursuing their vocations by people with bitter agendas!
I can't seem to get the knack of making paragraph breaks in these comboxes. Is there a special formatting code of some kind? Thanks.
Extend your comment box by dragging the bottom-right corner out, and you will see "body" and "p" appear. I think that "p" is for formatting paragraphs.
Meanwhile, as long as I was looking at Evangelii Gaudium, I took a look at the Frenchg version as well, and the translation is sometimes hard to understand. For those who can read French, just consider the first 3 sentences of paragraph 262... I wonder: are these texts temporary versions?
262. Spirit-filled evangelizers are evangelizers who pray and work. Mystical notions without a solid social and missionary outreach are of no help to evangelization, nor are dissertations or social or pastoral practices which lack a spirituality which can change hearts. These unilateral and incomplete proposals only reach a few groups and prove incapable of radiating beyond them because they curtail the Gospel.
262. Évangélisateurs avec esprit signifie évangélisateurs qui prient et travaillent. Du point de vue de l'Évangélisation, il n'y a pas besoin de propositions mystiques sans un fort engagement social et missionnaire, ni de discours et d'usages sociaux et pastoraux, sans une spiritualité qui transforme le cœur. Ces propositions partielles et déconnectées ne touchent que des groupes réduits et n'ont pas la force d'une grande pénétration, parce qu'elles mutilent l'Évangile.
".The call to put on Christ is a spiritual call for all humanity.That differs from the sign ,visceral sign of Christ in the world, in the church."
rose ellen --
Doesn't "genital sign" describe your position better than "visceral sign"? And shouldn't the priest-as-sign-of-Christ be a sign of what is *most important about Him* -- that is, His wisdom and love? And aren't women just as capable of signifying His wisdom and love as men are? His wisdom and love were *completely* human, and that includes the virtues of the feminine.
Claire --
I think he's saying that mystical claims (i.e. claims about the mystical, other world) and abstractions ("discours et d'usages sociaux et pastoraux") about what ought to be done do not get down to the particular problems and questions of todays people.
I think he's right about the latter, but many, many Americans seem to be quite interested in the purely spiritual, the mystical, i.e., contemplative prayer. Would that the clerical powers-that-be were more intersted in it. I don't think I've ever seen an American bishop quoted as recommending any of the new prayer movements.
Francis speaks on "prophecy" vs "clericalism"
(Vatican Radio) A church without prophets falls into the trap of clericalism. These were the words of Pope Francis during his homily at Mass on Monday morning in the Vatican's Casa Santa Marta.
Commenting on the day's readings, Pope Francis said a prophet is someone who listens to the words of God, who reads the spirit of the times, and who knows how to move forward towards the future. True prophets, the Pope said, hold within themselves three different moments: past, present, and future. They keep the promise of God alive, they see the suffering of their people, and they bring us the strength to look ahead.
God looks after his people, the Pope continued, by giving them prophets in the hardest times, in the midst of their worst suffering. But when there is no spirit of prophecy amongst the people of God, we fall into the trap of clericalism.
In the Gospel, for example, the priests ask Jesus: "With what authority do you do these things? We are the masters of the Temple!" They didn't understand the prophecy, Pope Francis said, they had forgotten the promise. They didn't know how to read the spirit of the times, they didn't listen to the words of God, they had only their authority.
When there is no prophecy amongst the people of God, the emptiness that is created gets filled by clericalism. All memory of the past and hope for the future are reduced only to the present: no past promise, no future hope. But when clericalism reigns supreme, Pope Francis said, the words of God are sorely missed, and true believers weep because they cannot find the Lord.
As we prepare for the birth of the Lord, Pope Francis concluded, let us pray: "Lord, let us not lack prophets amongst your people!" All those who are baptised are prophets: let us not forget God's promise, let us not tire of moving forward.
Claire, I think it has been confirmed that the document was composed in Spanish and the other versions were translated from the Spanish
262. Evangelizadores con Espíritu quiere decir evangelizadores que oran y trabajan. Desde el punto de vista de la evangelización, no sirven ni las propuestas místicas sin un fuerte compromiso social y misionero, ni los discursos y praxis sociales o pastorales sin una espiritualidad que transforme el corazón. Esas propuestas parciales y desintegradoras sólo llegan a grupos reducidos y no tienen fuerza de amplia penetración, porque mutilan el Evangelio. Siempre hace falta cultivar un espacio interior que otorgue sentido cristiano al compromiso y a la actividad.205 Sin momentos detenidos de adoración, de encuentro orante con la Palabra, de diálogo sincero con el Señor, las tareas fácilmente se vacían de sentido, nos debilitamos por el cansancio y las dificultades, y el fervor se apaga. La Iglesia necesita imperiosamente el pulmón de la oración, y me alegra enormemente que se multipliquen en todas las instituciones eclesiales los grupos de oración, de intercesión, de lectura orante de la Palabra, las adoraciones perpetuas de la Eucaristía. Al mismo tiempo, « se debe rechazar la tentación de una espiritualidad oculta e individualista, que poco tiene que ver con las exigencias de la caridad y con la lógica de la Encarnación».206 Existe el riesgo de que algunos momentos de oración se conviertan en excusa para no entregar la vida en la misión, porque la privatización del estilo de vida puede llevar a los cristianos a refugiarse en alguna falsa espiritualidad.
205 Cf. Propositio 36.
206 Juan PabLo ii, Carta ap. Novo Millennio ineunte (6 enero
Claire, i was replying to your post of 5:44 pm. I've since noticed that in your 2:09 pm post you have a much better English version of #262.
Did you find that better one online or did you do it yourself from the Spanish? if the Vatican has published an improved English version, i'd appreciate a link so I can download it.
Here's what I had done for just the part of 262 you quoted in your 2:09 post
262. "Spirit-filled evangelizers" means evangelizers who pray and who labor. From the point of view of evangelization, mystical proposals without a solid social and missionary commitment are useless, as are speeches or social or pastoral activities without a spirituality that changes the heart. These fragmentary and unrelated proposals only reach small groups and lack the force to penetrate further, because they distort the Gospel.,
The outward sign of Holy Orders is the laying on of hands not the masculine charism of Christ. Holy Orders, like all the sacraments subsequent to Baptism, is a further determination of the baptismal charism. When they are ordained, men do not receive the male charism of Christ. There is nothing that is gender specific in the matter and form of Holy Orders.
John Hayes wrote: "Claire, i was replying to your post of 5:44 pm. I've since noticed that in your 2:09 pm post you have a much better English version of #262. "
Sorry, my mistake. Now that it is morning here, I see that they are both the same.
OhBoy![let's see if I can defend my, position].I would not reduce male charism of which Jesus partook of-as a genital sign.The male and female mytiques are both of God and encompass more then body parts.[hence the recognition of transgendered people].We're all called to be Christ like in love and to stirve for the wisdon of knowing and wanting God.That spiritural dimension is neither male or female.There are plenty of lovng and partaking of widom people on earth of both genders who are not Christian. They are Christ like by order of their goodness.To proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ -requires more then good deeds.Outward signs though not sufficient [they are dead without good works but that is betwaeen each person and God] are necessary to spread the truth about Jesus Christ our Lord and savior.Our savior of humanity is a male charismatic.The male priest in the world tody is the paradignamic emeblem of the male charism of Jesus Christ.A female priest dilutes the emblematic sign of the carismatic Jesus Christ.Just as people have always needed and used scramentals to exress a desire for and a conection with dvinity,the scramenality of a male priest, is a sign,reminder of the reality of Jesus Christ.A woman can remind one of Christ by her exprssed behavior or if she wears relgious atire.A male priest is a true sacramental[physica; merely physical Christ].A woman does not connote Christ visibly but by manifesting her inner life of Christlike love. A female priest is not necessary but a male priest as the ultimate [most potent sign] is .Peope need sacramentals.A male priest offers hmsef as that sacramenal.[visible sign]As an ordinary human he is still everything else a person is.
So Kathy @ 9:26 thinks that all those closet traditionalists in seminaries can "come out" now without fear of being "too conservative" to be ordained.
How curious.
Are they also "too conservative" to be accepted by your average parish perhaps? Maybe they need to go out and find or found stable communities who want the Tridentine Mass so that they can finally come out of the closet and expose their blinding orthodoxy to public view?
I don't see any connection between this hypothesis and what Pope Francis has said. "The pope is on it"? Really?
I have got to admit, I'm also very taken by the reference to a "cult of secrecy" because they dare not let their orthodoxy show. It is a very curious meme. Illusions of grandeur and persecution are usually called "paranoia."
Finally, I suppose every case is different, but I've talked at Theology on Tap a couple of times. It wasn't so hard. In a bar? It isn't exactly in a brothel. Don't people often have earnest conversations in a bar? Maybe not if their orthodoxy is subject to a cult of secrecy, I guess. But I bow to Kathy's wide experience of so many seminarians she has known over so many years.
John Hayes: thanks for your translation from the Spanish. "only reach small groups and lack the force to penetrate further" means something different from "only reach a few groups and prove incapable of radiating beyond them". But I expect that pope Francis did not polish his thought with so much precision that approximate translations would ruin his work.
Rose-Ellen: signs and emblems change in their strength and in their meaning, along with changing times and changing cultures. A few centuries ago it might have been impossible for a woman to preside at Mass without inviting shock or ridicule, but now that women as well as men are present in every position of leadership, or of service, or of both, gender no longer has strong connotations that would get in the way.
So, both Bill and Rita think that the average devout seminarian is unfit for normal parish work. Does everyone see the problem?
Oh.O.K ."A further determination of the baptism charism".All right.I see that now.Thanks for clarifying.Could this further determimatiom not then be a sign -another specific sign only applicable to men because only men partake of what Jesus visibly also was-a man?[Both genders made in God's image partake inherenly of either male or female charism]. Pehaps a further determination only applies to men because holy orders is a further sign of Christ's presence and reality.A sign that is visible [a sacramental] hence that further reminds the world of the being of Jesus Christ.No more is entailed then that.[ a natural affinity,a natural reminder]. Just as even as it is baptsm that brings one to the body of Christ, the church, non baptized people [lackig the visible sign of baptism] we now recognize may partake of the body of Christ ,though invisible to us. [Professed baptized chistians,the church, beng the visible sign].The sacrarments are sacramentals-not everyone partakes of them, outwardly visisibly, yet anyone can in fact be Christian. There is no need for women to partake of a further batismal determiation that that they lack by virtue of not possessig that physical similarity to the person Jesus Christ,.Women priests, then no priests The historic Jesus gets diluted. Jesus gets relegated to myth.Christianty is a culture, a noble just civilization but a belief in God and our innate desire for God is superceded by a chrisianity without Jesus norm ,Perhaps i'm totaly off the about thisI.I don't know.Right now the idea of women priests repels me.Perhaps I 'm just brainwashed by an over a thousand year tradition of mysognistic patriarchy.I don't know .
Oh, so they are "average." I see. A "cult of secrecy" around closeted, paranoid, "orthodox," devout, traditionalist seminarians = the new normal. However, they will come out of the closet now that Pope Francis is in charge and is paying attention to seminary formation.
I think I get it now.
Kathy, Bill did say that there was nothing wrong with the rosary per se, pope Francis seems to hint that it correlates with lack of education but is quick to point out that lack of education in no way means lack of faith or lack of depth. Unagidon had some wonderful posts about the rosary some time back, and was not criticized for it. I don't think that anyone here disapproves of the rosary in itself.
The extraordinary form is another matter. It's fine to be curious about the EF, that, after all, is part of our history. I have friends who, in the right context, with proper booklets and explanations, told me that they found the experience powerfully uplifting. But consider that the change in liturgy was near-unanimously voted by bishops from the entire world, was embraced and developed super-enthusiastically by people worldwide, maybe to an excess, and has been gradually refined over the past fifty years by the People of God. It's obviously imperfect, still a work in progress; but when a seminarian turns its back to it - it, the source and summit of our faith! it, the weekly event that shapes and unites us! - and prefers the EF, there is cause to worry. Of course there are aspects in which it may be superior, just like other religions have elements of truth from which we could learn something - it's fine to be interested in other liturgies or in other religions and to try to identify what they get right that we are currently missing to some extent, and to draw inspiration from that to attempt to improve some parts of our liturgies. But preferring the EF means being out of step with 99% of Roman Catholics, and if it indicates a desire to pull out of our common prayer, it's obviously cause for concern. Not to mention that websites that promote the EF unfortunately are often also antiSemitic, sexist, and intolerant of religious freedom, so the possible associated faults are also reason to worry.
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Point taken Claire.I can't wait to hear what Pope Francis has to say about women and ordination.I'll be glad to defer to him, because he's pope and becuse I already like the other things he's saying and becase my insights and knowlege is very limited.All I have is my intuition which more and more seems to be getting exposed as a conditioned bias.Though for now my conscience still oposses women's ordination. How can i get the letters i key to post without skipping?My illegible keyboard is one problem, but the keys are not posting consecutively and is there not an edit function or spell check?Why not use dsqus?This program is not use friendly! Or help me fix it here please.
My experience of Neo Catehumenate [I am a disgruntled ex menber of many years ago so maybe it's changed] is that the seminarians defer to the lay catechists. The lay catechists have no accountability to any one outside the Neo Catechmenate yet they have plenty of power to indoctrinate people. In my opinion the NC invert the gospel message. Love of neighbor is riduculed as impossible without blind obedience to them[lay cathechists]. If one blindly obeys ones cathechists-God in his time will make you holy[able to love your neighbor and put on christ] Till that day arrives-the neo catehumenate encourages all that opposses love of neigbor.The members are encouraged to proclaim their contempt of others -the more you hate others-the more that is a sign of being favored by God[God came for sinners ,after all,God chooses the worst of the worst, Tell us how you're the worst!] That is the half of it. The other half is the expressed secret knowledge of the road to holiness found only in the neo catechumenate.We don't cast pearls to swine they said as they paraded on palm sunday down the street but when a child came up to one -wanting a palm-that was the respone!The masses taking place in the church or in rented places, was only open to other neo cathumenate because non members woud not "understand",Non members lack knowledge that only Neo Cat members have.The longer you "walk" and obey your catechist, the more advanced you get. .Masses are often and preferably separated by communities as more "knowedge" is confered the longer you're there.They are heretcal-in my opinion and I pray one day the Church hierarchy will open its eyes to that fact.
You have nailed the reason why the EF is so problematic as an ecclesial option. Despite the rhetoric of Summorum Pontificum and the ruse of the hermeneutic of continuity, the Summorum Pontificum was promulgated to win over SSPX and to give disgruntled traditionalist Catholics a way to go to Mass without haveing to associate with those they found to be heretics. It was a way around Vatican II. What resulted is the legitimation of a pre-Vatican II Church within the Vatican II Church.
SSPX saw through the ruse and insisted that there could not be an EF in a Vatocan II Church. For the EF to be a true liturgy, Vatican II had to be rejected. The studies have yet to be done but, it would be intereting to know how many who frequent th EF see it as a rejection of Vatican II. SSPX was true to itself in rejecting Benedict's maneuvers to get them to sign onto Vatican II. I respect them them for their integrity. What they understood, and what Benedict failed to understand is that the EF has an ecclesiology that is diametrically opposed to the ecclesialiology of Vatican II. To offer the Mass in the EF in a Vatican II Church simply does not work because you have to have to total supportive structure of the pre-Vatican II Church to make the EF an authentic liturgical expression of the Church. You described that structure accurately including its anti-Semitic nature. Rita Ferrone can fill us in on that because of the excelent research she has done on that question.
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So, with no promises for future "Best ofs", here are the blogs that I found informing, entertaining, moving or all of the above on Wednesday night.
There were two wonderful posts sparked by researchers revisiting information.
Stephanie Goldberg at acquamarinesteph took a different tack in researching her great great-grandparents and found new material in Conliffe update, part 1: AKA Start With What You Know.
Lessons Learned by Taco Goulooze at ...it all makes census shows what can happen when you examine everyone in a census listing. And isn't that the greatest blog title?I'm about to dive back into genetic genealogy after taking the summer off and loved Daniel Hubbard's clear writing on the subject in Holes in my Genes at Personal Past Meditations.
I've definitely noticed the occupations listed on Ancestry.com's World War II enlistment records database and added a few to my data. Might need to check again according to John Newmark at TransylvanianDutch. Read his post Civil Occupation Codes: What's Going On Here? for more information.
Heather Rojo has written about her Hawaiian kin many times at Nutfield Genealogy. But she was surprised by the amount of new information and connections made when a Facebook group started for Hawaii's Holt Family.
There were two posts that made me grin, then laugh out loud.
Mindie Burgoyne's The Vacation of Many Cars with Teenagers from Hell at Who Cares What I Think? brought back memories of some tortured trips of my own - both as intrepid chauffeur (but never as intrepid as she) and as Satan's spawn.
Dee Burris of Shakin' The Family Tree has found one of the all-time great criminal pardons and shared it in What a hoot.... Now if only she can figure out if there's a connection to her Burris kin. I do hope so!The Civil War Sesquicentennial has sparked some great reads.
If you haven't already found and been reading the New York Times' Opinionator/Disunion series it's time to do some back reading yourself. Wednesday's Baltimore's Unlikely Confederates was just the latest of their superb offerings.
The last paragraph of John Hennessey's The final journey of Capt. Edward P. Lawton (part 2) makes a strong point about Civil War history and commentary today. The blog, Mysteries and Conundrums, is written (unofficially) by the staff at the Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania County Battlefields Memorial.Finally, Mel Wolfgang celebrated his first blogoversary at Mnemosyne's Magic Mirror with another perceptive and beautifully written post - And Still I Write. Each time I read one of his posts I see an eloquently developed thought - a sculpture rather than the block of marble that often rests upon my shoulders. I wish I thought and wrote as he does. That will never be, but I am ever grateful he shares both.
Quite an evening. No surprise that I'm finishing this in the wee hours of the morning full of admiration for those bloggers who manage this each week. I've no idea how they do it!


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STILLWATER, Okla. – April is Financial Literacy Month. To observe this, the Oklahoma Jump$tart Coalition is sponsoring Jump$tart Your Money Week April 23-29.
Why not take the time during this week to give your finances the boost they may need?
Eileen St. Pierre, Oklahoma State University Cooperative Extension personal finance specialist, said Jump$tart Your Money Week is a public awareness initiative intended for building financial knowledge so one can deal more effectively and confidently with money.
"During this week, workshops, programs and seminars will take place all across Oklahoma for participants to come and learn more about improving financial literacy," St. Pierre said. "The Jump$tart Coalition's website is http://www.oklahomajumpstart.org [1]. This site has information about classes and events that are taking place. Every area in the state is encouraged to participate. Most events are free and offer balanced financial education."
The Oklahoma Jump$tart Coalition involves both private organizations and governmental agencies at all levels, as well as OSU Cooperative Extension. The Coalition is working toward making a positive difference in the future of Oklahoma families by helping youth and adults improve their financial well-being.
"The Oklahoma Jump$tart Coalition serves as a venue to share best practices for financial education and assists organizations by partnering to best utilize their resources," St. Pierre said. "With collaboration, the Coalition is able to facilitate information sharing and serve as a clearinghouse for activities and resources related to Oklahoma's financial education."
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Lula Bell Stevens Akers, 73, of Harold, died Monday, Jan. 21, 2013, at Three Rivers Medical Center, in Louisa.
She was born Sept. 27, 1939, in Floyd County, to the late Clell David and June Howell Stephens.
She was the wife of the late Eugene Akers.
Lula was retired from Home Health Care and joined the Toler Creek Freewill Baptist Church of Harold in March 1999.
She was preceded in death by one sister, Geraldine Ritchie.
She is survived by three sons, Timothy O. Akers, Kenny L. Akers and Randy Blake Stevens, all of Harold; two daughters, Linda Cheryl Akers, of Harold, and Julie Thomas, of Georgia; a brother, Herbert Lee Stevens, of Michigan; stepmother, Thelma Reed Stephens; two half-sisters, Angela Carol Stephens, of Harold, and Tammy Lynn Howard, of Paintsville; eight grandchildren, Greg, Johnny, Gary, Timothy, Cindy, Blake, Laken and Dusty; and great grandchildren, Wesley, Bradley, Brandon and four other great grandchildren.
Funeral services will be held at 1 p.m., Friday, Jan. 25, at Toler Creek Freewill Baptist Church, at Harold, with Larry Kendrick officiating. Burial will follow the service at Howell Cemetery, at Harold.
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EAST BEND - Forbush lost two tough contests to Wilkes County schools last week to remain winless on the season.
In their last time out, the Falcons blew out a double-digit halftime lead and fell in the final seconds 52-51 to West Wilkes. On Tuesday night, Forbush was unable to contain undefeated North Wilkes as they dropped a 71-55 decision.
Against the Blackhawks, Savannah Hill (eight points) and Brittany Moose (seven) powered the Lady Falcons to a 28-18 advantage at the intermission before seeing West fight their way back into the game.
The 'Hawks opened the third quarter on a 13-0 run to grab a 31-28 lead midway through the frame, but the scrappy Falcons hung around.
Forbush battled back and grabbed a 46-41 advantage with four minutes left to play. Hill drained a trey to push the Falcons ahead at 51-50 with 21 seconds remaining.
But on West's final possession, an offensive rebound and put-back by Leah Bishop with three ticks left gave the Blackhawks a thrilling 52-51 victory. Paris Trivette's potential game-winning three at the buzzer hit iron.
Hill poured in a game-high 21 points on the night to lead Forbush, while Moose and Shannon Holden added 11 and 10 points, respectively.
Tuesday's loss was not as dramatic as unbeaten North Wilkes pulled away in the second half to keep the Falcons winless.
Trailing just 29-26 in Hays, the Vikings scored 42 second-half points to win comfortably at 71-55. The cold second half performances have been a trend for Forbush as they search for that elusive first victory.
Hill once again powered the Falcons with 18 points, including four threes, while Moose added 14 on the night. Trivette tacked on eight points, while Kala Doub and Maddi Morsch finished with six and five points, respectively.
With the tough losses, the Falcons dropped their overall record to 0-8 on the season and 0-4 in the Mountain Valley Conference.
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We hang suspended somewhere between the grand exodus of July, when the city folk flood out towards their own private Promised Land, be it seaside or mountaintop, and the end of August, heralding the grand return, the sudden rush of population that arrives en masse for the opening of school doors. The streets are left deserted, sidewalks empty of crowds. The drowsy days of summer, and the city is ours to discover. Walking through the market, my camera poised, aimed at what I have long considered simply ordinary ingredients with which to feed my family, framing each image, fruit, vegetable, pastries, meats have become objects of art and desire. Leaving the market and strolling through the streets on these hot, lazy days of the end of the season, I peer through my iphone, my eyes scanning up and down buildings, around and across squares, contemplating individuals as they cross my path, and I discover a visual playground, a play, curtain lifted on Act I, filled with matter and substance for excitement and admiration. I see beauty, humor and magic where I once only saw blank walls, a blur of bodies, dirty sidewalks.
Voyage à Nantes. Cultural events and artistic manifestations color the town exciting; walls light up and the ground transforms into a magic carpet. Ice cream stands and bars spill out onto the street, becoming at once front row center to the greatest show on earth and the stage itself, brimming with characters and action. Graffiti moves and twines around corners, paintings larger than life jump out into my path, tiny images play hide and seek, awaiting discovery and my consideration. Although grime and soot encrust tangles and swags of masonry flowers hanging delicately over doorways, besmudge stone faces and Madonnas secreted away in niches, remnants of other eras, each lends a romance to this city of mine, together they tell a tale if only one takes the time to look up and notice.
I snap picture after picture and lock them away for another time. I collect image after image for the days that I forget the beauty and grace of life, the humor of living. I have learned to slow down and look around and what I spy makes me catch my breath in wonder or smile in lightness. So many years living in one city and we tend to become blind to the details of the world around us. We become bored and restless, expecting grand things in shapes and sizes too hard to miss, gifts wrapped up larger than life and handed to us noisily, bells and whistles catching our attention, pointing and shouting Me Me Me! But there is so much hidden, hidden out in the open, silent and still. Like those old kid's games we used to play, Red Light Green Light or Statues, we look yet we see nothing but unmoving shapes, yet look closely, or turn away your eyes then flash around quickly quickly and it all comes to life!
My camera, my iphone have opened up a secret garden, an Ali Baba's Cavern filled with treasures galore! I now see what I have been missing for all of the year's I have lived in this city, years in which I wandered through town with my head down, eyes averted. And I see more and more each day. Art is everywhere; a jumble of beauty and silliness and romance and history ornament Nantes, the obvious and the clandestine, changing the face of a staid bourgeois city. Art and architecture in a torrent of colors and designs reshape the city, adding excitement and personality and I capture it every time I walk out onto the street. Joyously.


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CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. – The 2013 softball season saw a youthful Chattanooga Lady Mocs team post 26 wins and 10 Southern Conference victories, including multiple season highlights from its promising young student-athletes and mix of veterans. For Frank Reed, the season brought the head coach to the 940 career wins mark and improved his win total at Chattanooga to 464 – extending his own record as the winningest softball coach in program history.
"There were a lot of positives that came from this season," Reed said. "We saw a ton of great players step up and become veterans quickly. We called on a lot of freshmen and sophomore to mature as Division I student-athletes early and they really responded. Our juniors and seniors did a great job of grooming them and I look forward to what they are able to do in the years to come. We have a bright future ahead."
Senior Sara Poteat (Thomaston, Ga.) closed out her career with the Lady Mocs as the team leader in hits (52) and stolen bases leader with 17 on 18 attempts. All-time, Poteat ranks in the top 10 in seven statistical categories – including stolen bases, batting average, on base percentage and double plays turned. Her 49 career stolen bases ranks her third all-time in Lady Moc history and her .437 batting average in 2012 was the highest single-season batting average in over a decade in Chattanooga. Poteat ends her tenure at UTC with a .356 career batting average.
Senior Ninjja Suetsugu (Sao Paulo, Brazil) transitioned from an infielder to a catcher for the 2013 season and platooned at the designated player and backstop position throughout the year. The senior placed 29 hits and found her way on base any way she could, being hit by a pitch a team-high nine times on the season. Transferring from Miami-Dade Community College for the 2012 season, the Brazil native recorded her first career homerun in Clearwater, Fla., with a blast to left field against Villanova March 9 on her return to the Sunshine State.
Wrapping up her career as the Lady Mocs 2013 batting average and homerun leader, Kasey Tydingco (Fairfield, Calif.) recorded a .381 average and five home runs over the past season. The Fairfield, Calif., native started 48 games and drove in a team-high 31 runs. The first baseman ends her career ranked first in double play assists and most times reached by catcher's interference – well known by catchers for her long follow-through. The senior ends her career with 23 home runs – tied for sixth all-time with Tara Tembey – and fifth all-time with 137 RBI.
Freshman Sam Taylor (Chickamauga, Ga.) emerged as one of Chattanooga's top prospects halfway through her first collegiate season. Despite a .221 batting average from March 10-March 27, Taylor went on to piece together a 15-game hitting streak to swell her average to .333 and to .481 during her hitting-streak. The centerfielder recorded a hit in each of her at-bats in the month of April. Taylor was named to the All-Southern Conference Second Team and Freshman Team.
Freshman Anyssa Robles (Lawrenceville, Ga.) and Suetsugu platooned nicely behind the plate and in the designated player's role from the first to the last pitch of the season. The freshman from Lawrenceville, Ga., batted .293 and hit her first and second career home runs during her first campaign with the Lady Mocs. Robles was named to the All-SoCon Freshman Team and finished with a second-best 11 doubles on the season. Robles tallied 14 multi-hit games.
Looking to fill the shortstop's position, freshman Alyssa Taylor (Orange, Calif.) filled the void left by former Lady Moc Jessica Traxler like a veteran. Playing in 48 games and starting 47, Taylor provided a sure glove in the five-six hole and delivered with the bat, as well. The Orange, Calif., native batted .297 in her first season and showed power by blasting her first career homerun to center March 30 against Western Carolina. The freshman also recorded a nine-game hitting streak from March 20-April 6.
Sophomore Sarah Beth Roberts (Mt. Juliet, Tenn.) picked up where she left off from the 2012 season with 52 hits, ranking second among Lady Mocs hitters, and a team-high 14 doubles. Named to the All-SoCon Second Team for the second year in a row, Roberts led Chattanooga with 16 extra-base hits and drove in a second-best 30 runs. The Mt. Juliet, Tenn., native batted .310 and recorded 10 multi-RBI games.
Sophomore Taylor Deason (Clarksville, Tenn.) was called upon once again as UTC's ace in the circle. Pithing 192.1 innings over the course of 23 starts and 44 appearances, Deason totaled a team-best 16 wins and tossed 14 complete games. Deason was backed by freshmen Rachel Albritton (Murfreesboro, Tenn.), Kaisey Carson (Indianapolis, Ind.) and redshirt freshman Jenny Garcia (Miami, Fla.). Albritton posted six wins as a freshman and maintained a team-best 3.00 ERA while Carson earned four wins and combined for a shutout with Deason.
Chattanooga ended the season in sixth place in the Southern Conference and was eliminated from the SoCon Tournament after back-to-back losses in its first two games.


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I didn't want to derail the .44? thread so I want to put this in a new one. This is somewhat of an answer to my "2 questions..." thread.
The issue at hand is how to deal with the parent cartridge - in this case a .30-06 / .308 family cartridge - that has a thicker wall to it compared to the desired cartridge. The parent is also slightly tapered, where the target cartridge is a straight-walled case. In this case, a .45 Winmag.
I was able to resize an old expander die ram to expand -06 brass to the proper diameter without fireforming. The process is:
The problem I ran into when cutting the case to the desired length is that the pilot won't fit due to the thicker wall!!! The answer appears to be that neck reaming will be required BEFORE the case is trimmed to length, and a smaller pilot will be needed for the "rough cut" to length. I expect that the brass will flow slightly during this process, causing the overall length to grow slightly, therefore I am suggesting double-check of the length after the case is sized.
- Cut the parent case close to the desired length
- Use the "Full Length Expander" to remove the taper
- Measure case length; final length trim & debur if required
- Full lenth size
- Neck Ream
- Expand & seat bullet like normal
I also found that the sizing needed to be done a few times - once and there was a slight dimple ring along the outside of where the "full length expander" stopped moving. A minor issue, but it could cause some feed problems if you don't resize it. It took me about 4 passes through the full-length sizer die to get the case nice and straight.
It goes without saying that you should lube the case inside and out before doing this!
A final note - the sheer amount of brass inside this straight-walled case makes me want to do more than neck ream... I don't know how much it will make a difference, but I want to make a longer reamer to open up this super-thick converted case to be closer to the factory brass. It doesn't seem to hard, and I'm going to experiment to see how much of a change to velocity it makes.
Here's the final product - a converted .06 case next to a factory .45 Winmag case... factory case on Right and Bottom:
Here is the converted expander next to the factory expander, filed and polished up smooth. I filed the "jumps" slightly under diameter so it won't scrape the cartridge: