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Fraud in PA: Obama Got Over 99% of Vote at Polls Where GOP Inspectors were Removed; Turnout Somehow "30%" Above Gov't Numbers
Ward 4, which also had a poll watcher dressed in Obama attire, went massively for Obama. Mr. Obama received 99.5% of the vote, defeating Mr. Romney 9,955 to 55.
Another problem: "Voter turnout in Philadelphia was around 60 percent, according to state election figures." In these precincts it was well over 90% according to House Speaker Sam Smith of Pennsylvania. Considering all of the other "coincidences" going on, it doesn't seem kosher.
Clear fraud, odd percentages, and numbers that don't add up? Congratulations on your re-election, Mr. Obama.
Update: Obama also won 99.8% of the vote in 44 Cleveland districts. In Ohio, Obama won in a county with 108% voter registration.
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- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 2:09 PM
Welcome to BRA.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Unfamiliar with the term BRA - kindly explain.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 5:03 PM
Black Run America
aka The Black Undertow
in the deep south they is known as NRADelete
This is about corruption, not race.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Ah, I see Paul Kersey is entering the mainstream.Delete
Welcome to ZIMBABWE.Delete
One man, one vote, one time - and economic collapse, permanent bankruptcy in every sense of the word.
- Jimmy'sNovember 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Don't be that guy. This is about the Obama Administration's corruption, not raceDelete
No, this is about race.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Welcome to the Third World and say hello to UN observersDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 12:13 AM
Obama's corruption IS about race. Always has been.Delete
Its not about races., itz the coruption hes caused., seems some people dont know his secrets., im supose to have a colege scholarship n texas and becuz of hm itz gone., i would love to c a black stand up and be president but not a dishonest one., america was found for freedom and christianity., and now our own president s corupting wat we were found for., he claimed america a muslim country, spent 10,000 dolarz on his dog, and cut of alot of scholarshipz and petitions., paperz which were signd with an agreement.! This is tearing us apart.!Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:50 AM
I've never felt like a racist until this Admin. As a typical white guy, these people label me a racist for any criticism, so what do I have to lose? I won't go all Klan, but w/a PC world run by the MFM it is hard to NOT be the answer to the AG Holder embraced NBPP. I'm getting sick and tired having a respectful poli conversation, and having that damn card thrown at me! Well as polite a chat as you can w/an obamabot anyways. Uniter my ass.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM
It's amazing how anyone can say anything on the internet and gullible people believe it. I am concerned for America. The US should not have univerasl medicare because it can't go to war using money that might otherwise go toward healing people. It makes much better sense to make the hositals absorb the high cost of uninsured Americans. So what if it costs more in the long run. Also, let's complain about the 16 trillion debt rather than the 43 Trillion that went from the American mortgage holders to the Wall Street Bankers. So what if the American people lost their homes as long as the Wall Street US government has only 10 Billion in debt. So what if the 1% (now 2%) can manufacture their products using near slave labor and then sell their high profit products to a dying US middle class. So what if the middle class becomes poor, the 2% can always sell their products to the new Chinese middle class. Maybe it is best to return to the Bush era that nearly bankrupt this once great nation and finish the job. The 2% might feed us some of their cake. And time marches on...Delete
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 3:59 AM
Been an idiot long?Delete
"make the hositals absorb the high cost of uninsured Americans"
And every hospital goes bankrupt ... once they deplete their endless supply of cash
How 'bout "If you don't have insurance and can't afford treatment, you don't get treatment. If you die because of the lack of treatment, you'll serve as an example to everyone else"?
The typical person will die from lack of food before they'll die from lack of healthcare, yet you can't steal from the grocery store, but somehow stealing from hospitals is OK.
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Acquaint yourself with the concept of satire.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 11:09 PM
1) giving free health care to illegals and not their own citizens yea something wrong there. send the illegals back Mexico hates america anyways.Delete
2)I dont care what race or gender the president is coruption is just that coruption. we need to start reforming america by pulling the corrupted out of leading rols and send them to prison as traitors of america. We need to kick obama out and put some real men or women in office that will do their job and not try to distroy america.
anyone who voted for Obama basicly pisses on the graves of every dead true amercan who fought to keep americas freedom from the civil war to now. It was a fixed election and we need to get rid o the problem NOW! before its to late and beyond return.
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 1:06 AM
What proof, we don't need no stinking proof. If you don't like it then prove it wrong or shut up, don't become a Donald Trump. We have one in this world and I would say that's about one too much.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Go to this link and sign the petitions at the right hand side of the page
- AnonymousDecember 6, 2012 at 3:13 AM
wow, can't believe how much bullshit you all want to swallow when this is CLEARLY propaganda. ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIKE IT HERE IN AMERICA IS WELCOME TO LEAVE NOW. my president kept this recession from becoming another depression like it was in the 1930's. this is alot easier than it was then, but some folks are just plain selfish and spoiled. you people give the rest of us God fearing grateful americans a bad reputation as the ugly americansDelete
- AnonymousDecember 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM
You are a fucking idiot. First off god is. Mythological figure made up to control the masses. Obama has done NOTHING to help our country. We can tell your dumbass fucking voted for this dipshit . Obama has not created one single job , except in China. Obama blames Bush for everything and keeps using him as a scapegoat. Why don't you take Obama to Africa if you like him so much.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Election Fraud in Philadelphia?? The birthplace of the US??? Nothing to see here... move alongReplyDeleteReplies
There is plenty to see here and all over America...North Carolina and Ohio had touch screens that when you pressed Romney, Obamas name came up...I wonder how many got through before someone noticed. This Election was a total fraud everywhere!Delete
- AnonymousNovember 13, 2012 at 3:31 AM
AMEN! A TOTAL RE-COUNT SHOULD BE DONE ASAP!Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM
Why doesn't someone step in and demand that these votes don't count? Or, make the people vote again, this time with ID's and US Marshalls?ReplyDelete
I am sick of hearing how votes have been faked, people intimidated, and just plain old rigged. It's not fair to the American people who voted in good faith and honestly.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:52 PM
Tell Eric Holder at the Justice Department. They'll get right on it I'm sure.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Yes, WHY is this allowed to stand??? It's illegal to boot out poll watchers, yet they did it and nobody seems to be doing anything about it! Why?!? All the votes there must be checked because a big chunk of it is likely fraudulent! How is it that nobody that can do anything about it actually does something???Delete
So totaly right., america is about christianity, freedom, honesty, and faith., our own president is doing fraud yet the citizens go to jail for ths., he should be locked up., there should be a riot.! Hes causing coruption.! Hes everythng the oposite wat america., yeah., some one should contact that eric holder guyDelete
Iraq, w/their purple fingers, had a more honest election than we just had!Delete
Think about that, and try not to weep.
I think the election has been stolen. Whyy isn't Romney challenging it? That's the damned problem we seem to have with this man... he goes wobbly... if he can't challenge this, how would he face Putin or Iran or N Korea or China? Somebody has to push him hard! See... Obama never had to do anything... never had to do anything hard... all these creepy Marxists and muslims around him did it FOR him... as I said years ago, he walked across the cesspool of politics on the heads of his Marxist supporters. Romney, and maybe even McCain WON, damn it. If GW Bush was able to win a second term with all who hated him, Romney certainly should have, and I believe did!Delete
They say Romney got 2 million less votes than McCain did, but maybe they DID vote! And their votes were stolen one way or another. Do you put that past Democrats from Chicago?
What about the military votes that were not counted!? If anybody's vote should be counted, it's the military! Those people are out there risking their lives for this miserable commander-in-shit and he stabs them in the back AGAIN. No wonder he moved Patreus from the Secy of Defense over to the CIA and Panetta over to Secy of Defense... Panetta is a shameful dem who would go along with something like denying the military their votes.
This whole thing is so WRONG! ...people need to be put on trial and worse!
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 1:10 AM
I totally agree with you. I'm so tired of this, if you can't win say it was faked or corrupt. Its the oldest move in the the book of Loser 3:16 I believe. He He.Delete
Tim Tebow
But, you see, its racist to require adults 18 or over to present an ID to vote (but not get a drink, enter an Obama rally, or drive...)ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:34 PM
I actually ahd this conversation with a Liberal today, and he had the nerve to tell me that it is unconstitutaional to reauire thia, comparing it to a "poll tax!" I reminded him that this administration has already burned the Constitution. I also reminded him that Obamacare was the most unconstitional act to ever be put into effect...forcing citizend to purchase healthcare! AS we all know, controlling the healtcare system is the first step to Socialism..Delete
- AnonymousNovember 13, 2012 at 9:09 AM
You are kidding me right? I can't believe you said that, the UN observes were very surprised that WE did not require Id for our voters..even they understand fraud! The lame excuse that it stops people from voting is a lame excuse, when almost any other thing in our society requires an Id..each person when they are born here is given a SS number..come on stop being so STUPID! I think some of you brainless dems would drink poison if they told you to! Oh, you already have...Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 3:26 PM
This will never get into the liberal media! It will be swept under the rug just like everything else Obama does! Romney got cheated and everyone knows it!!!ReplyDeleteReplies
- texan galNovember 9, 2012 at 2:15 AM
Shit this is so unfair., dont say that us citizen are gona do nothng about this!? We are not gona let this be swept undr the rug again!Delete
You're probably right so give it to Faux News. They'll run with it if it is even slight believable . . . which of course it isn't. I get so tired of undocumented dribble by sore losers.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 6:38 PM
AMERICA got cheated. Half of the country drank the Obama Cool-Aid and swallowed his lies. Now we all have to pay for their arrogance.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM
One simple question - Many of the more Liberal of the Media Outlets (Print & Broadcast) are going losing money hand over fist and going Bankrupt. Why don't some of the more wealthy Conservatives buy a few of these outlets - esp. those in Moderate to Conservative areas of the USA that spend their time insulting the intelligence of their subscribers rather than simply reporting the facts (the who, what, when where & why & Classical Journalism)?!?Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Welcome to the F'ing Chicago States of America.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM
F Chicago. I have lived here for 47 years. That's 48 too many. I'll be out of here by 2015. Say goodbye to another maker.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:26 PM
move to a swing stateDelete
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 11:24 PM
Moving to a swing state wont have an affect. they will just chane the votes to what they want just ike thy did now. what we need to do is tear the corruppion out by the roots and burn them as traitors of te US hwever firemight be to kind to use on them. I say radiation poisoning should work just fine. e need to reinforce out Constitution and add a few laws to it.Delete
1) anyone found guilty of coruption in government will be executed based on a legal and just system.
2) no one has the right to take the amendments away from Legal US citizens unless those citizens have been found guilty of a federal law after a legal investigation has been finished.
3) anyone found guilty of messing with election ballots should be imprisoned and all right taken away. with no chance of porole.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM
According to the Breitbart article you linked to, the guy in the Obama hat was working Ward 4 in Chicago, not Philadelphia. Still illegal, though.ReplyDelete
A 99% precinct voting 99% for Obama? tell me more about this oddity.ReplyDeleteReplies
- SensibleLiberalNovember 9, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Most logical (and hilarious) post here. +1Delete
Detroitifcation of America. What's left of it.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 6:51 PM
They win and we lose because they prepare for physical violence and we don't. They are prepared to assault and expel proper election inspectors and we are not prepared or willing to physically protect them. Where were the protective squads waiting to be called for when the Dem goon squads rolled in? Nowhere.ReplyDelete
The first time a GOP inspector calls for physical backup and gets it will be the start of the end for this thuggery.
If it takes a vicious fight and a few dead and injured to clean this mess up, then so be it.
The blood of patriots and tyrants was never more needed.Replies
So what do you want? Golden Dawn?Delete
- Charles GiacomettiNovember 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM
By all means, start the revolution or civil war or whatever you whining pussies want to call it. Put your money where your mouth is.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Charles, clean up your mouth or stay out of the conversation.Delete
I'm sorry if I don't understand your point. I do know we are the ones w/the "hardware". The question is...what will it take for us to finally get it on? And look out for the knife in the left boot of "Charlie bag-o-Donuts".Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 4:50 AM
Why don't we get out of politics...We don't need to change the Country. we will sooner or later just get voted out again...unless we can stop the vote...better than beating heads in.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM
You're right... but the defenders of the poll watchers need to be prepared not only to fight, but to go to jail for it. Probably for a long time. Holder didn't prosecute the Panthers. He'd label the poll-watcher defenders as Klansmen and prosecute them to the maximum extent of the law.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 2:54 PM
You're right on this one - But how are we going to do the things we need to do when we use every B.S. excuse to either vote 3rd Party or to not vote at all when it counts as many of us did last Tuesday? I'm sorry, but I listened to (and read) so many lame excuses my head ached almost as much as when I had a Spinal Headache and felt I was going to die!Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 6:51 PM
Isn't it odd that in the same polling places that McCain got 60 votes in 2008?ReplyDelete
Fact is, right wingers are such sore losers they have to invent stories.
Four more years. Get used to it.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM
So they pulled the same shit four years ago.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM
No, they didn't. Why are you right wingers such stupid people? I'm just glad we're never going to be a Christian control freak society anymore. That's good enough for me.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 8:48 PM
If the parties were reversed, you would want this looked into. Having lived in nearby Bucks, I can tell you that the corruption in Philly voting is common knowledge. And if you kick the poll observers out, who can prove anything.Delete
So explain why these folks kicked the GOP poll watchers out, yet allowed the NBPP (new black panther party) guy to stay? ...Delete
Oh, wait, the NBPP guy is an *official* Democrat poll watcher. I see. Official. Democrat. Poll. Watcher...
Guess the GOP folks didn't agree with skinning white people and killing cracker babies as they are born...
NBPP though, that's their idea of race relations.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Right wingers don't invent stories about Obama, his cronies, voter intimidation, vote fraud, etc. because O provides enough from reality. You are a sick twist and I hope you are one of the first to be hit by the big O's latest fiasco. Couldn't happen to a worse person.Delete
I'm just glad we're never going to be a Christian control freak society anymore.Delete
Yeah, those Christian control freaks are bad. If we don't watch out, they might force us to buy things we don't want, tax us for breathing, or outlaw Big Gulps, lol.
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Same snigglets, different year. Typical democrat thuggery and lawlessness. Truly, the one-toof welfare junkies are calling the shots in the burned out ghetto rubble of what were once decent places to live.Delete
Locusts...with $300 tennis shoes and no teeth.
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 11:37 PM
@Black Hat Cat. it wasnt the christians that trying to tax everything and ban everything its the democrats and liberals. it was the christians that made this country free for all religions and races.Delete
It was christians who fought to free the slaves.
It was christains who fought to make sure everyone could have a life free from oppression. however liberals are trying to distroy american and democrats only want full controll of america.
By voting for Obama that saying lets bring slavery back to america.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Ya get what ya pay for. Bozo bought 4 more years of free vacations for the Mooch.ReplyDelete
Wow, our Dear Leader did much better than Saddam!ReplyDelete
You know Saddam? Buddy of that Osama guy who was killed single handedly by our dearest Dear Leader.Replies
The President got him? Oh yeah? I would like to see him over there and trying. The Seals got him. The military. The people protecting you so you can screw them with your vote. Get educated.Delete
Someone's "sarcasm detector" is off.Delete
Hint: "single handedly", next time I'll use "with his bare hands" or "with his bear hands" or "with his wife's killer smiles".
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM
@D Struzick: Hello----- sarcasm......Delete
- Joseph WilliamsNovember 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM
Here in Canada we had a few ridings (districts) that had some robot calls made that apparently mislead people to believe that they had to vote elsewhere then their Elections Canada voter cards said. This controversy is still occupying EC and one riding whose result was very close even made it to the Supreme Court. Results were not overturned as well nothing really happened that clearly showed the vote was affected.ReplyDelete
Between your lack of voter ID requirements, electronic voting machines that vote incorrectly and now this case of election scrutineers being tossed out.......
Guys, I love you, but really, this banana republic crap. Embarrassing is not strong enough to describe how it looks. The home of democracy? Right. Democratic Party needs to be renamed for all their shite.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:35 PM
You're right. Our election "procedures" are an embarrassment. Dems do everything possible to make fraud easy, and they scream "RACISM!" and "voter suppression!" and "Jim Crow!" if anyone tries to make fraud difficult.Delete
Apparently some UN monitors thought they were going to find rampant vote suppression by those eeevil right-wingers, but instead they found a shocking failure to suppress fraud.
How is it that Dems understand that fraud-friendly procedures give them an edge over Republicans? Hmmm?
You're definitely right. Even the UN inspectors were astounded by the lack of voter ID requirements, and something like 85% of Americans, including many minorities, support voter ID requirements.Delete
But the Dems are racist, ageist, and classist, since they think minorities, seniors, and the poor are too incompetent to get themselves to an office to get a free ID card.
Just pathetic. Unfortunately all of us Americans will reap what the Obama voters have sown.
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 6:43 AM
And here is the thing regarding ID and poor people....Some form of government ID is required in order to qualify for federal assistance programs, such as food stamps...Most people, poor or not, can afford the approx $10-20 for a state photo id if you have to provide it to get food stamps and they are usually valid for several years(depending on state)Delete
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Only one person in a family has to have an ID. Not everybody Has the documents necessary, and they cost money. If You want to Id people to vote go and do a census and provide a free voter ID. I do like that Idea. Just because You have to show Your ID to get a drink does not mean everybody drinks.Delete
I worked the polls as a republican watcher in the 2008 election in Philadelphia, 5th ward (6th and Fairmount streets). I was shown how to do the job by a pregnant lady who met me before 7:00 AM in front of the voting place. We went in at 6:55 AM, and voting started with us at 7:00 AM. She showed me the ropes voted and left. I was to look up the voters in the registration book and then they would sign in and there names were written into another book. As I was new I learned as we went. The lady who had the book where the names of voters were being hand written in it kept asking me who the names of different voters to verify that they were right. Later in the day we switched out and I had the book with the hand written voters in it. It listed there names, and their party. As the day went on I got bored and looked to see how many republicans had voted. Only one the lady who brought me in at about 6:55 AM. Voting started at 7:00 AM. She was voter number 21. 20 votes were case before we got there! They were back filling in the names after I got the registration book. That's why she needed to keep asking me who various voters were. She needed names to go with the votes. 248 votes were cast for that 2008 election. 244 for democrats and four republicans. 20 were stolen (12.2 percent). If I wasn't there it would have gone on all day. In fact when I went home for lunch I'm sure it happened also. When I called the lady who trained me she said call the hotline! Their stealing votes! I did and help showed up later in the day. But the votes were already stolen.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:58 PM
I remember that day. The DA still has the case but as he is a Democrat, the case will never see the inside of a courtroom! Hope you are doing well. Jay
I don't even get this. In Missouri, there are an equal number of Republican and Democrat poll workers. If some Democrat tried to wear an Obama hat while he worked, the other poll workers (not observers, other workers) would call him out on it. Is that not the system in Penn.?ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Dont just report, dont just chat about this.ReplyDelete
Shout it from the rooftops !Replies
And email!Delete
- TheTruthNovember 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM
And all the sites and radio hosts need to know!Delete
Damn right, Truth. We can't stop or we lose this country. Let's get this on TV, Rush, Savage, Hannity, everyone we canDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Beck has the BESY and you guys keep leaving him out. Dish 212 theBlaze.comDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 9:02 PM
this corrupt nation ..... its getting time for a big ... revalation... and revolution .... just how long do we wait till they push ... till its time to push back ... enough is enough ....ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 9:46 PM
I worked as a GOP poll watcher with my daughter in this election, in Northeast Philly (rather not say the ward/division for privacy reasons)...we saw a lot of crap...a few voters came in with Obama buttons and hats on...I asked them to take them off while inside the polling place since it is illegal, and a poll worker (Dem) rushed over and said to me, "Its allowed!" (uh, no, its not).ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM
But in the end, NOTHING happens to these anti American, racist scumbags.. EVER.. We just complain and nobody goes to jail.. Nothing..ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 5:06 AM
i went to jail...good thing Romney is a good friend of my mom...(wink...wink...)Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM
We all know that demo-krauts have been rigging the votes for years. Now that the chief corruptokraut from Illonis and his corrupt administration is rigging each state that they can for mandate purposes. As long as they are the gods in their eyes they answer to no one. They will answer one day to the Creator of the Universe, as for all of their followers, they are lost and also corrupt, but have no power. Only wants. And when the freebees run out, they will become rights-less slaves taking down the whole country and looking for a banna-----republic.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Welcome to the USSAReplyDelete
United Socialist States of America
At some point the blood of patriots will have to be spilled.
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 10:49 PM
WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, WE NEED TO START ANOTHER PARTY, GET A FARMER, A SINGLE MOTHER,AN ACCOUNTANT AND A RETIRED GENERAL. AND RUN ON THE ANGLE, WE GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THE STATES AND HAVE A PRESIDENT, HOUSE, SENATEN NASA AND DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY.THE STATES SEND A PORTION OF THERE TAX REVENUE TO THE GOVERMENT FOR MILITARY AND NASA PERIOD..... LET THE INDIVIDUAL STATES GOVERN. STATES CAN MAKE THERE OWN LAWS AND WE CAN ELIMINATE FEDERAL TAXES AND WASTE.ReplyDelete
Getting more than 99% is shades of the kinds of elections they used to have in the Soviet Union. If this isn't stopped, before long voting in the US will be so free and democratic that the Democrat candidate will always pull more than 99% of the vote, even in deep red districts.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Having been born and raised in West Phila, it is entirely plausible he would get 99% of the vote. As one of the Republican ward officers noted, some of his fellow Republicans were voting for Obama.ReplyDelete
Anyone who is shocked that Obama got 9950 out of 10k votes in an all-black, inner-city, poor neighborhood is an idiot.Replies
Anyone who is shocked that Obama got 9950 out of 10k votes in an all-black, inner-city, poor neighborhood is an idiot.Delete
I'd say the 9950 who donate their vote without a second thought time after time to the party that is responsible for their inner-city neighborhood being as poor as it is are the idiots, but that's a different issue. Your point is valid though, as sad as it is.
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Honestly, that should be the reason not to vote for Obama, he has done nothing for poor black families.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM
3 words........ waaah waaaah waaahReplyDeleteReplies
- LONG ISLAND PATRIOTNovember 8, 2012 at 11:32 PM
Just curious , what is your opinion on the 2000 election decision and outcome? Can you be intellectually honest or just a smarmy , brainwashed , socialist douchebag?Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 12:25 AM
This is exactly why the democrats fought tooth and nail against voter integrity and photo ID laws. They simply count on the cheating.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 12:55 AM
I know you all mean well, Yes it looks bad and I'm not saying you don't have valid points here but remember that this has been going on a long time at least 4 presedents back and they have their ducks in a row. They are very well organized. We don't have any recourse, no representation and we will watch this country fail. Only a few of the voters will finaly beleive what they are seeing before their eyes and some will never get it. The Walmart culture has ignorantly voted for failure. Be strong.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 1:17 AM
Time to stock up, get locked and loaded, and wait for the Riots to Begin.. When the gravy Train runs out, as the "Evil Rich" take more money out of the System, some will wake up, others will fill the streets seeking their fix, but the well will be Dry... Those that think Socialism will work ?? Look at what happened to the USSR, a ruling Elite, and the downtrodden masses begging for food, water, and heat...ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:08 AM
I'm not a racist. I have many friends of many backgrounds. But who here honestly believes the Black Panthers would've been out there in Philly if it were 2 white guys running for office???? So, yeah.... it is a race thing that this happened. I'm not saying the Obama administration condoned it, but let the truth be known.....ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM
Its been a racial thing from the beginning. The democratic party chose this idiot for that reason alone.I was asked at work with so called friends when asked if i was voting for foriegner obama. When i said no. If looks could kill. so vote for obama your cool dont vote for obama your a racist republican. what a powerful tool to use. Here is my take on it this is not going to end well the only thing this piece of shit is out to do is get even with the white man by fucking driving whats left of our country to the ground the funnier part will be he sticks it to the dumb white folk that followed along. lolDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 3:37 AM
the election was a sham because the n*ggers threatened violence and to start riots.. the govt. caved the SS let them do it. we live in dictatorship deal with it.ReplyDeleteReplies
You're not helping.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Your reference to the duly elected being somehow reflective of the SS(Nazi's) is misdirected at best considering The Nazi Party is an extreme RIGHT wing party that determined that democracy in it's present form was too week and had to take control to "protect" Germany from being overrun by the non-white immigrants and Jews. Sound familiar? Learn your history before you're doomed to repeat it.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Umm No you moron. Nazi = National Socialist.Delete
LEFT wing. Another Uneducated idiot.
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:45 PM
how stupid goes it get?Delete
the Nazis were leftwing...
...from the standpoint of the Baggers
the rest of the world knows that there were
extreme right wing
that there were death camps
that they attempted to exterminate millions of people
how come you don't understand this?
only neo-nazis and Joe Stalin see eye-to-eye with you. pick a fanbase
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 3:18 AM
They're correct, the Nazi Party was a socialist party. Hitler and Stalin were competing with other at the start of the war. They both wanted to be dictators of Europe. I remember that much from a real history class-long before internet revisionist history via rumor-say it often enough, and people will believe it deception tactics.Delete
Normally Obama is a cool guy who won't show any emotion in public.But Obama cries as he thanks his Campaign StaffReplyDelete
I guess it would be straightforward to publicly announce that there were zero Romney votes in these several dozen districts, and if more than a person or two comes forward to claim they voted Romney, we have a real problem.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Also remarkable, there were about 10 million less voter turnout this year, when all were expecting quite a few more than 2008. Not only that but there were about 15 million more eligible voters this year. Were there a lot of votes that ended up in dumpsters? Florida is still counting and interestingly, now with some scrutiny upon them, West reportedly now is in the lead. Curious isn't it.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:04 AM
you racist idiots need to remember that obama would have won either way no matter what the result was for philly or even cleveland. tho i dont believe in there being fraud. obama > romney. obama would have still won by a lot around the world and i dont believe there was fraud. if anything i hear people were trying to steal votes from the obama voters and change it to think they voted for romney. so if anything, its all fair game.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:05 AM
florida aint even counting anymore. obama won, get over it people. you republican idiots.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM
republicans are crazy. just look at how ridiculous fox news is. fox news = faux news.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Democrats are sheep. Go ahead and let Obama lead you to the slaughter. This has nothing to do with race. I don't care if Obama's a rainbow who farts butterflies, he's a liar, a cheat and by every definition, a traitor. You pussy democrats cry racist whenever anyone challenges a black man, you're more racist than I am. I see nothing but a man in a suit sitting behind a desk he doesn't deserve. You people disgust me.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:38 PM
if you're going to sling mud get it right:
democrats couldn't organise ANYTHING - it's cat-herding with them
the GOP demands lockstep and complete conformity of thought - otherwise you are a RINO
and remember - thinking is academical - so is always a liberal socialist plot....
OBEY The Rush
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Pot meet Kettle, the exact opposite was true this year & every year before it. Conservatives & libertarians were embraced in 2010 when they saw their party gaining dramatically in popularity and poll numbers then, after their people got in, the GOP brass started eschewing them until they were being locked out of the last RNC. The dems didn't need to do much voter organizing with the entire MSM advocating and stumping for the lib messiah every chance they got. The most crooked & inveigled presidential admin this country has ever seen just got all the cover they needed to infiltrate its way back into power and now it looks like they will make a bonafide 5 star general & American hero their first sacrificial victim in their attempts to cover for the literal massacre of our own white house & military personnel, which the dem's corrupter in chief presided over.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 11:51 AM
This doesn't suprise me one bit. I voted in a Philly suburb and it was the same thing. First, voting was at Laborer's International with a HUGE Obama poster on the face of the building. Second, the front lawn was littered with signs. Third, the entrance was swarming with people handing out Democratic ticket pamphlets. They literally opened the door and handed you a pamphlet. Fourth, the poll workers were all Union members and had on Obama paraphenalia. Easy opportunity for voter fraud.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 1:47 PM
So what's going to be done about it? Will the Elections Commission investigate? Probably not. I am so sick and tired f the corruption. maybe I'll run for Attorney general next election.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Maybe you SHOULD run for Attorney General. Maybe then you might be able to research the truth instead of all this undocumented dribble.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Face it folks. The fix is in and there isn't damned thing you, me. or anyone else can do about it. We'll get voter fraud fixed when the Republicans win an election that is widely attributed to voter fraud........ and not before.ReplyDeleteReplies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM
You're exactly right. It won't get fixed until then. Assuming we ever have another free election. I put nothing past this guy now.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM
"expelled GOP inspectors"ReplyDelete
Ya, right! It's amazing what you can get away with on the internet without a tread of documentation. If any GOP inspector actually left a precinct under those circumstances, then it's the GOP inpector who's to blame.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:32 PM
as if! who are these lily-livered whipped pussies that they ran away when they got booted out? if there was truth to it, we'd be hearing about it from one of the army of GOP attourneys in a court. or about the police involvement.Delete
the pats may only need their 3rd string QB in the SB to whup the eagles, but if you had a brady in your hand, it would have been played already!
the high proportion of dem votes only goes to prove how effective the gerrymandering has been
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Did you read the article you are quoting? The point of the Sam Smith remark is that Sam Smith was quoting inaccurate information. Or do you only believe what you want to believe?ReplyDelete
"House Speaker Sam Smith, musing over "staggering" turnout in some city precincts and reacting to wrong information that "90 percent of the precincts in Philadelphia County turned out over 90 percent of voters," called the ability to get such numbers "questionable.""
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:58 PM
It's time we hold ANOTHER ELECTION! And next time it should be monitored by troops!ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 9, 2012 at 8:59 PM
I think we have just witnessed a whole new level of voter fraud. Yes, the dems undoubtedly manufactured votes but did they also destroy valid ballots ?ReplyDelete
I don't know who else noticed this but when the early/absentee votes for OH showed up and the 1% precints was still showing Dick Morris tweeted not to worry as this was the early vote. However, I was very worried because of the numbers. There was an 18.5% gap with a near 60/40 split which was not what we had heard at all.
Rasmussen and others were telling us the early/absentee was 40% of the vote and I knew we couldn't make that up. When I compared it to 2008 it was actually about 20% of that vote which meant we had a better chance of making it up but once again 20% didn't make sense from what we knew. Where did the other votes go and why were these votes so skewed ? Were early votes from R counties destroyed ?
Then when I heard that Romney got less votes than McCain in OH and PA it really made me think that there might have been an effort to destroy the early votes from Republican areas. The reported party breakdown of early votes in OH on election day according to Bloomberg's Dem source: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-06/the-early-election-results-captured-by-democratic-microtargeters was 50D 36R 14I. The only way this turns into a near 59:40 breakdown is if the Indies went about 70:30 to Obama or many R's voted for O which the polls don't seem to bear out.
The actual # reported on Bloomberg was 1,442,536 which was about 27% or so and when I looked it up on the US elections project and they had the actual number as 31% of 2008 vote. They had this information available down to names of the voters on 11/5 but the networks didn't have 11% of the total that happened to favor Romney on election night ?
In surrounding states like IN, KY, WV Romney did much better than McCain by percentage and generated more votes overall. He also did better in other battlegrounds.
Either the negative/mostly untrue ads suppressed our voters only in OH and PA or someone suppressed their actual votes in a big way. I just can't believe Romney/Ryan with 4 yrs of Obama turned out fewer R voters than McCain in these states. All the indicators were going our way all day, either we were being lied to or something happened to these votes.
BTW, I know my absentee ballot didn't make it in PA as I went to the polls and checked. Sent it in 14 days earlier.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM
So I guess that You voted again?Delete
I was sent by our local R/R victory office to hand out the Republican candidate literature at a polling place just outside of Philly. Three of the people working there were wearing Obama attire. Of the several "workers" where I was standing, one of them would take a potential voter that came in, walk them up to the sample ballot and point to the Dem names and say "Now, if you are voting for Pres O, make sure you push the lever down with his name, b/c we are hearing that when you press the straight Dem button, the votes are not registering for Pres O." (Then, they would glare at me as if it was a conspiracy, as if OUR side is the one that cheats!)ReplyDelete
I reported them for wearing the clothing, and 4 men came out form the Board of Elections. After they left, I did only see one of the three still there. (She had a HUGE picture of O's face on her shirt with YES WE CAN on it) lot of the voters coming in were wearing O clothing. One had a photo of the whole O family.
(If I were to wear my Romney pin on my jacket into my polling place, I'd be told to remove it)
Sorry, your credibility is extremely lacking. The photo you post is from CHICAGO, as is reported in the Breitbart link you provide (and where it appears you swiped the photo). And the number in that paragraph is also from CHICAGO, Obama's home ward. Gee, who would think the president's neighbors would overwhelmingly vote for him. You also do a great spin on the Inquirer article, where it points our those wards that went overwhelmingly for Obama are African American - and from living in Philadelphia I'm not at all surprised. The Republican party here is pathetic. Good to spin things the way you wish, but spin is not reality. If there are violations of law, let's see arrests. Supposedly the GOP had swarms of lawyers out looking for things, yet where are the arrests? Oh, there were a couple I saw reported, out west, of Republicans who were attempting to prove you could get away with voter fraud by doing fraudulent acts - who got arrested for doing fraudulent acts. Good way to disprove that these acts aren't caught. Hope they don't expect to be let off. Lots of speculation and claims going on here - evidence, not so much. (Let me point out that the current Attorney General in PA is a Republican, as was the last, who is now Governor. Yet, no vote fraud prosecuted, and as they stipulated in the case against the Voter ID law, no evidence. You know, that thing that is meant to prove the law is violated. Evidence. So, show some...)ReplyDeleteReplies
John, you're wasting your breath trying to talk "facts" to the stupidest F****** people on the planet.Delete
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 6:43 AM
Libs acting like racist Republicans. The lengths people will go...ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 2:33 PM
well I guess we the unemployed will just have to avoid spending whats left of our money on passtimes that benefit the unions,Vegas,disneyland etc...In other words lets transfer the economic impact to those who vote for this administration. Let them bear the brunt of this failure as well. It pains me because I know there are clear headed people in these jobs but the masses will not awake until it gets very dark.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 10, 2012 at 4:00 PM
You're a liar, an idiot and a fraud. Nice job cherry-picking data. "You decide!" isn't factual reporting or any pursuit of truth. You presented a fact, which when presented out of context appears fraudulent... and did so on purpose and knowingly. That precinct voted almost exactly the same last election. It's patently FALSE that GOP watchers were not allowed there. They were there. They just weren't allowed to demand to see ID's, which is because a state judge blocked that law/rule.ReplyDelete
9,955 to 55 - Must be fraud, right? Well, how about 10,028 to 52? That sounds even more fraudulent!!!! Except it's not, and it's the election result from Precinct 9 in Madison County, Idaho. Here's the link to the actual results for those who care about factual sources: http://www.co.madison.id.us/attachments/article/73/2012%20General%20Election%20Results.pdf
I'm sick of chicken shits like this site and those who write blogs like this. I'm a moderate Republican, and we lost because the GOP has become self-delusional Man up. The GOP lost. Take your lithium. Remove the tin foil from your heads and look for explanations for the loss that don't involve paranoid conspiracies for voter fraud. If the GOP doesn't confront realities and learn from this, it will lose elections. If it continues spewing patently false and dishonest TRASH like this, it will become corrupt at its core... deserving to lose elections.
I'm tired of those who peddle fear and falsehood. You're ruining my Party. You're ill and need to ask yourself whether integrity means anything to you any more. Or are you so puritanical in pursuit of your end's that integrity means nothing. Not just "shame on you"... grow a pair, man up and deal with the loss like an adult. Learn from it. Or you will shipwreck the Party further next election and in many to come.Replies
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 12:46 AM
It's amazing how full of shit you are. The numbers are out of the philly.com article cited in the article. But you're just hoping and you're just wishing that people won't bother checking your sources or your statements because, golly, you're just so "angry." Get a life dipshit and stop lyingDelete
- AnonymousNovember 11, 2012 at 4:38 PM
Why is Romney not challenging the results? Because he aint stupid that's why. He wants Americans to realsise that socialism means the total destrution of the US economy and let the young Americans get to their senses and off the Obama phones.ReplyDelete
Seems like the only arrests for attempted voter fraud were from Republicans trying to prove voter fraud was possible. After all, the only truly well-documented case of voter fraud on a massive scale was Bush v. Gore... and we all know how well that turned out.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 12, 2012 at 10:30 PM
If Obama cares about America's future, he should open investigations, convict, and punish perpetrators of voter fraud throughout the country. Some cases where video and audio exists should be easy. These issues are becoming more than just isolated incidents and have the potential to affect the outcome. How long will it be before the election process becomes similar to what occurred in Egypt or Iran?ReplyDelete
Is everyone close to the problem willing to look the other way. Aren't there any good, ethical people with integrity in this country that are still willing to stand up for what's right and demand justice?
Acorn and Black Panthers with bats in 2008 with no real punishment and this year, even more reports of fraud and intimidation.
I say we fine the people who denied the inspectors or illegally voted, jail them for an appropriate period, and put them on a list so they can never hold a public position again.
Also, where's the media in all of this? What ever happened to investigative reporting? People should demand coverage of this very important issue. Is there nobody in a position of influence that is brave enough to make a positive difference anymore? What kind of society are we accepting?
wow I have never seen so much hate and misinformation in one thread. Lets think real hard here and lets talk facts. across the country Obama received 97% of the vote from African-americans...97%!!! millions and millions of people across 50 states. you dont think its concievable to get 100% of a vote in one small dinky little precicnt, ward or district? district 23 in PA for example has 624 black registered voted and 3 whites. To get at 97% across the country, all black neighboorhoods had to have turn outs of over 97% obviously and 100% is very concievable. its not 97% in every ward, across the country.. laughable. The next thing is ALL of those districts are in ONE county in the states mentioned. In PA that one county Obama was 85.2% of the vote. Seems like a landslide right? wrong. that was his highest total in any county nationwide. ROmney had a bigger percentage margin in almost every county juts in UTah alone. Romney won King county in texas with 95.4% of the vote (thats a whole entire county!! not just the districts within the county) he won several other counties in utah, idaho, and montana at over 90%. Across the country there were over 200 precincts that had romney winning 98-100% of the vote. they were smaller rural counties that obama has no shot in. Obama couldnt even break 80% in any county in washington, oregon, or california, yet romney did it in all three states. Romney just didnt win the important counties. we are divided in america and this just fuels the fire. its propoganda unless you also site romneys results in the same text. romney won white neighboorhoods, obama won black ones, why is everybody so shocked by that... its like duh... I dont hear any crys from the left that Obama only got 5 votes in a county in texas over 4 different precincts. Obama got 0-3 votes in 53 precincts in utah. mccain lost the same PA area and didnt get a vote in 57 of them . its democratic, get over it.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 14, 2012 at 7:56 PM
It's strange to read that some people think there is no story here. Even if you accept the 100% vote for Obama in FIFTY-NINE polling areas, how about the excessive turnout beyond the state average and in some cases the number of registered voters, or how can you justify and permit denial of inspectors? Do you really want to wear rose glasses, ignore all facts, and accept potential criminal activities without investigation. The woman denying inspectors should be arrested along with anyone else involved with illegal voting activity.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 15, 2012 at 6:41 AM
If you want to just complain.....keep adding comments....If you want to know the truth about the election go to www.infowars.comReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Romney and the GOP lost the election because they ran a poor campaign and alienated more than half the country, beginning during the primaries when they made insane statements that got cheered on by TV debate audiences of howling bigots. After Romney promised to veto the Dream Act, end funding for Planned Parenthood, reverse Roe vs Wade, and made his disastrous 47% speech, the 2012 campaign was over and Obama guaranteed victory. If the GOP runs the 2016 campaigns like 2012 they'll lose again, only worse.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 15, 2012 at 12:50 PM
How many voters under 30yrs old will vote for a candidate who tells them to pay for college by "borrowing from your Parents" and denying them birth control pills? How many Latinos will vote for a politicians who tells them to go and "deport" themselves? How many black voters will vote for a candidate who tells them they only want "free stuff"? How many voters concerned over the environment will vote for a candidate who makes jokes about "the oceans rising" just before a major section of the country gets flooded by sea water?ReplyDelete
I could go on and on, but even the most dense among the GOP should get the point by now (or DO they?).
- AnonymousNovember 16, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Those of you that are saying "YAY" for Obama are just plain stupid or out of work of both. Let's look at the demographics. 97% black people blindly voted for Osama, 67% Hispanics (legal and illegal) voted for him because of his unconstitutional amnesty for millions of Mexicans and the majority of single mothers voted for him looking for hand outs (nothing against that, they probably need them). Some of the irony in this is that black unemployment has actual increased by over 10 percentage points under Obama. He has done nothing for the black man - actually worse. The majority of actual working class, people that have struggled to get respectable careers didn't vote for the -$16 Trillion dollar man. Say what you want. The guy is an absolute incompetent idiot. That was clearly seen in the first debate before he had "help". He can't talk or think or his own. He is clearly a puppet. Whomever is pulling the strings are what we should be worried about. If you haven't seen that in the last four years, you've been brain washed by the liberal media and Hollywood. I am a democrat, my parents were blue collar democrats. We have always worked hard for what we have and have strong faith in God. If you think for one minute this president is about helping the under privileged, you are sorely mistaken. Let's just say there are no parties - democrat nor republican and we had to vote strictly on his track record. What is there? Significant increase in unemployment, almost doubling the nations debt, NEVER passing a budget, his inability to work with congress and the senate. I could go on (and spare me the trite statements of he single-handedly got bin laden and saved GM to make Jeep and other vehicles in China). Just look at the plain facts without a party affiliation. If this guy was running a business, he would've been ousted long ago or the company would've went bankrupt. Mark my word, it won't matter who you are. Obamacare is going to be the worst thing this country has every seen and everyone will agree (imagine going to the DMV for healthcare - then imagine worse "pick a number and wait"). This wealth envy that he has brain-washed people with so he can tax them more so the gov't can mis-manage their money, like he has the last four years is going to drive this country into further recession and high inflation. Think Carter in the 70's standing at the gas pumps and scraping by - this will be worse b/c we have another four miserable years of incompetence, lying, cheating & corruption. The saddest part of all will be his life-time appointment of another corrupt lapdog to the Supreme court to completely denigrate our Constitution.ReplyDelete
- AnonymousNovember 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM
Man, you folks who think Obama stole the election are ignorant and/or insane. You are not grounded in reality at all.ReplyDelete
Get off these crazy echo chamber website and the Fox news and maybe, just maybe, you might begin to understand why his win was not that surprising.
Your hate for Obama has just addled you minds.


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Riddle me this!
I have tried to recall where I saw my first riddling rack. I remember being amazed at the rows and rows of A-frame wine racks with bottles sticking out in a very orderly fashion. I remember clinging on to every word the winemaker used to explain their purpose. I felt like a child listening to a beautiful medieval folk tale. Even better than a folk tale, it is true and has a happy ending! I am amazed at the ingenuity and quite frankly, I think it is just really cool! I stood in a dark, cold and some may say stinky champagne cave and listened….
This is article from Riddlingracks.com sums it up perfectly…
Champagne is a celebratory beverage that when produced by methode champenoise is very labor intensive.
Bottles of new champagne are stored on their sides in deep cellars in Champagne, France. This wine is now stored sur lie, or "on the lees" (the dead yeast cells and sediments trapped in the bottle). This aging process creates champagne's texture and the complexity of its bouquet. The amount of time Champagnes spends sur lie bears a direct correlation to its quality: the longer the aging, the more complex the bubbly.
Riddling racks are critical to the process of making Champagne. After the sparkling wine has aged on the lees or it' s yeast , it is ready to be finished. Remuage or riddling is the process that collects the yeast and sediment in a bottle and concentrate it near the mouth of the bottle.
After initial fermentation in the bottle, the bottles are inclined at a 45-degree angle on a riddling rack, which is made up of two simple rectangular boards hinged at the top. Each side is consists of bored holes, totaling six along ten rows able to hold the neck of a champagne bottle. This means each riddling rack can hold 120 bottles. Some riddling racks can hold more. The riddler puts the neck of a bottle of Champagne in each of the holes. A mark placed on the bottom of each bottle acts as a reference marker, with all markers on all bottles in the rack pointing in the same direction.
Over the next few weeks on a daily basis, the riddler rotates every bottle a few degrees which is an art unto itself. At the same time he raises the bottle's bottom slightly, lowering the neck maybe a centimeter or two each week. After a few weeks bottles that started at a 45-degree angle are now slanted to a 60-degree angle and are neck-down in their holes.
After riddling is complete, the Champagne bottles are then placed in a sub-zero solution for several minutes forming an ice plug made of the spent yeast and sediment in the necks. They are then are disgorged which means to remove the crown caps from the bottles resulting in the pressure within the bottles shooting out (disgorges) the ice plug (with the frozen sediment trapped in it). This could have been a good I Love Lucy episode!
When you have riddling racks, you need a Riddler and the Riddler needs a punt.
The punt is found in the bottom of some wine (traditionally Bordeaux) bottles and all champagne bottles. It is a divot, dimple or pushed in area on the base of the bottle.
There are many thoughts on why there is a punt in the bottom of a wine bottle. The one that makes the most sense to me is to offer reinforcement and strength for the lively sparkling wine and to give the Riddler a place to put his thumb while rotating the bottles.
And, it is true the bigger the punt, the finer the wine???? Once again, a myth about size – that is NOT true!
When you walk into Joni Artisanal Wine and Beer, you will find the walls covered in racks that replicate the traditional riddling racks. It is a beautiful and safe way to keep your wine. The racks were made by a Saluda Wood Carver Shane Varnadore. Although these are not his traditional works of art, I think he did a beautiful job. You can see his fantastic wood sculptures in the shop and art galleries throughout Western North Carolina.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014
The countdown is about complete.
Instead of months and weeks, only days remain until the Berkeley Stags kick off their 2014 season on Friday night, Aug. 22 against Johnsonville.
While the rest of the Lowcountry will be scrimmaging at the Sertoma Classic, the Stags will start their regular season. Berkeley plans to hit the ground running.
And gunning.
Were going to be fast off the ball, fast with the plays, were going to run, make the play, hear the whistle and line up to run it again., said Stags Coach Jeff Cruce, who begins his fourth year at the Berkeley helm.
And while each year he expects big things, Cruce remains cautiously optimistic about the Stags good fortune heading into the fall.
This is the best team Ive had, Cruce said. And I said that last year too. This team is good. Were big, were fast, we can run the ball, and we have a very smart quarterback.
The Stags held their own against Goose Creek and North Augusta during a three-way scrimmage last week and Cruce was happy with what he saw.
We scored coming out of the gate, he said. We marched down the field against Goose Creek and scored early. Then we put a ten-play drive together and should have scored on that. We still need work, but this summer has been about accentuating the positive and weve looked very good lining up against opponents. We just need more game time, and the Johnsonville game will help us a lot.
Against Goose Creek and North Augusta, the Stags scored five times over the three-team scrimmage, gave up four touchdowns, rushed for 224 yards and passed for 167 yards.
But its a scrimmage, he said. Focusing on the positive, we played well. It was hot out and there and the day was long, but we played well.
Cruce said Johnsonville could present problems for the Stags with their wishbone offense.
Not many people run the wishbone offense these days and Johnsonville runs it well. We just have to keep getting better at the little things and take care of our own business and the rest will take care of itself.
The Stags have been working toward this moment on Friday night since Dec. 2013. Cruce said his team is ready to play and should be competitive.
We should be able to mix it up with everybody this fall, he said. Our defense has really stepped it up over the summer, and our offense is fast and experienced. We arent waiting on anybody. As soon as the referee blows the whistle were snapping the football.
While Cruce called quarterback Joseph Dress the best quarterback hes ever had, including the time at Hanahan and Cane Bay, the Stags coach had high praise for backup quarterback Darius Douglas.
Joseph has had a very good summer, but Darius has been outstanding back there. He can throw the football but he can also run very well.
The Stags also look to be strong at the younger levels as he expects both the JV and B teams to be strong.
We have some players coming up from the younger ranks from the middle school that are going to be very good players one day very soon, Cruce said.
There is no rest for the weary this fall as Stratford, Summerville, Cane Bay and Timberland wait in the wings between now and the start of the Region 8AAA schedule on Oct. 6 against Beaufort.
Kickoff at Bonner Stadium/Gerald Moody Field is at 7:30 p.m.
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SAVANNAH, Ga. — The USC Aiken men's basketball team had its six-game winning streak halted in a 90-87 loss to Peach Belt Conference rival Armstrong Atlantic State on Saturday.
In spite of the loss at Alumni Arena on Armstrong's Savannah, Ga. campus, USCA (15-6, 11-3) remains in first place in the East Division. The Pacers are also still in the hunt for the overall PBC regular-season title because they got some help.
Much like Armstrong, Clayton State pulled off an unlikely win over Montevallo (15-7, 11-4), leaving USCA with a half-game lead for best record in the PBC ahead of the West Division's top team. The Pacers' lead in the East is 1½ games.
The loss to the second-place Pirates (13-7, 9-4) was disappointing, especially since USCA led by as many as 11 points in the first half. It led 53-47 at halftime.
The second half was very different, as Armstrong built a nine-point lead with 8:35 remaining in the game. But the Pacers battled back, eventually taking an lead 87-85 with 39 seconds left in the game.
Aric Miller gave the Pirates the lead back – 88-87 – after he hit a 3-pointer with 17 seconds to go in the game. Antroine Williford hit two free throws with 10 seconds to play to leave Armstrong with a 90-87 lead.
USCA had a chance to tie the contest in the final seconds, but Ronald Zimmerman's 3-point attempt rimmed out, securing the Pirates' three-point victory.
Four Pacers scored in double figures in the game. Paul Larsen led the way with 23 points and tied his career high with 14 rebounds. Half of Larsen's 14 boards came on the offensive glass as he recorded his eighth double-doubles of the season.
Senior point guard Re'mon Nelson had 20 points, six rebounds, two assists and one steal for the Pacers while DeVontae Wright contributed 15 points, three rebounds, three assists and three steals. The final Pacer in double figures, Santoine Butler, had 13 points, seven rebounds and a game-high tying five assists.
Miller led all scorers with 39 points. He was one of three Pirates in double figures.
USCA shot 43.1 percent (31-for-72) as a team. Armstrong shot 47.5 percent (28-for-59) from the field. The Pacers owned a 47-36 rebounding advantage in the game, claiming 22 offensive rebounds.
They'll be on the road again for their next game, when the Pacers travel to St. Augustine, Fla. on Thursday to face Flagler. Tip-off in the Valentine's Day PBC showdown is scheduled for 7:30 p.m.
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In the past few days we have learned that my girlfriend, Destiny, may have preeclampsia.
She just completed the tests, and we haven't gotten the results back, so it's still unsure. But, from her symptoms, the Doctor thinks it's a pretty safe bet that she does.
She has a high blood pressure, and is very swollen. She also has been getting a lot of pains in her abdomen the past couple of weeks, some pretty bad.
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Joined: 1/10/08
PC is not political correctness, it means Political Cowardice!
Originally posted by MMOdad72
Hmm EQ2 launched in 2004 as well and guess what... You can't sit in chairs in that game either. Oh, and by the way, I logged off SWTOR about an hour ago and I COULD AND DID SIT IN CHAIRS. Troll much?
If that is such a big deal, then I guess EQ2 would have failed years ago, oh wait, it didn't because it had a day/night cycle and weather too huh? If you play games based off being able to sit in a chair, day/night cycles, and hunting rare mobs then your standards are pretty low IMHO.
I bet you and those like you would complain if there were day/night cycles that there aren't different mobs running around at night.
Oh, and I guess world bosses don't exist in SWTOR either. Oh, wait, those can't be soloed so they don't count right?
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Joined: 7/05/11
Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)
SWTOR lacks a lot of the big things for a so called epic mmo of the century they once boasted about. This game is nothing more than a story, thats it. It lacks almost all major features of an epic mmorpg. After finishing my story it got boring real fast, can not sub to a game like that.
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Joined: 6/14/12
Originally posted by Corehaven
Sandbox is were its at if you know how to do it, DFUW is the closest to a sandbox game worth playing once its done. The largest problem with sandbox is most of them have no direction and for new people or sheeps that like to be lead around they just wont like it.
WoW has done something very well which is give enough things to do in the game to keep interest even if you are not a raider.
EvE is a great game if you like that genera.
it lacks almost every major mmo feature? LOL
i am sorry, was that supposed to be a serious statement?
SWTOR lacks some minor features maybe, the quality and the way their content is implemented is questionable.
but, its hilarious that people say this is a direct wow clone with light sabers (which it is) yet it lacks all major mmo features somehow?
its posts like this that spread gross misinformation that make me laugh.
there wasn't any more to do in vanilla wow that there is currently in SWTOR.
other than the open pvp, i honestly cant think of anything else that you could do in vanilla wow that you cannot do in SWTOR.
IMO its the quality and the way it was implemented, not the amount of content.
not only that but wow was the best game in a time where there was very little competition.
wow made mmo gaming more main stream and brought a whole bunch of new players in.
that has a lot more to do with their success than the amount of content they had.
Originally posted by baphamet
WoW is not "vanilla" for a very loooooooooong time now, afaik were 1 day apart from 2013, not 2006.
You dont make Ford T to compete in todays market and say "but but but when they started all they had was model T"
In fact, comparing something to WoW vanilla indicates failure in itself.
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Joined: 7/01/09
Originally posted by Onomas
I just want to know how it got boring real fast? You not into PVP? or all the HM instances or the OPs I mean there is plenty to do......how long after you finished your story did it get boring? I have a 50 that I have had for about a month now, but I also play about 15 hours a week if that and still havent completed nearly everything plus I play an alt. I just want you to go further into what your talking about
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Joined: 7/01/09
I think your right, me I want a sandbox game b/c there is no direction you can do whatever you want. People today want a themepark or at least a hybrid between the 2. People want a purpose now days they want to be the one with the best gear and the first of everything, they want to play hours on end so they don't have to live their real lives (reason why people play 40+ hours a week). If you don't give them direction they don't know what to do, One of the big reasons I think SWG added the CU and NGE because people didn't get stuff handed to them, they didn't want to figure stuff out on their own.
WoW did do stuff right, still can't figure out how but hey good job to them.
What Swtor is missing, a lot but again its only a year old and of course people are getting tired of it, the same people that play 40+ hours a week are the ones complaining, the devs are still fixing some of the problems and everyone else has blown through the game saying fix this do that. Give them time. Samething happen to WoW.
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Joined: 3/22/09
Not sure if already mentioned but most of these little things were brought up in a guild meeting with Bioware not long ago (just prior to F2P transition). There were primises that many of the issues were on the table and to be addressed.
I know little of the details, just that nothing has been heard since due to changes with Bioware and delay or new direction the game too due to F2P. I would imagine things simply got delayed as the concerns of the players likely won't be ignored forever. I highly suspect we will see many of these changes as they were officially acknowledged by BIoware but also fear their implementation will be too far away to save many of the existing players.
The lack of these various features impact both older and new player opinions of the game. The fact that it is brought up often on the official forurms as well should clue Bioware to the importance of the issue.
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I agree. I must say, you have to have the carrot for us to chase but at some point the carrot or atleast some of it has to be given up. What I mean by this is simply give the players some sort of accomplishment, and not just the latest pvp or dungeon loot.
In Star Wars Galaxies one of the coolest and mysterious things from launch was the fact that noone new how to become jedi. I remember chatting with players for hours while I played on ideas to what we would have to do to unlock our jedi. Of course we all know jedi is a starting class in swtor and that is ok, but why can't we have unlockable companions or playable races? Maybe even unlockable crafting classes. Player run citys are an awesome idea and tattoine has lots of room, why not go for it?
Open world space with points of interest with maybe a challenge to be met at each. Space pvp combat which grants space honor used to purchase space ship gear. Condition damage on craftable gear that is comparable to dungeon loot, to keep economy going.
Podracing with a betting system , pvp bountys. Swtor also needs faster world travel, it takes way to long to get where you need to go .Im not saying bypass everything but those drawn out runs through spaceports are getting a bit tidious.
Sometimes you have to wonder if the devs even play these games because they seem to have no clue what players need to stay addicted to an mmo.
Addiction, we all have it, we all want it, and we all need it. If I dont find an addicting mmo soon ill start using illegal drugs lol.
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1. Vehicale handling. No inertia, no acceleration, crazy strafing and jumping. Could they do it any worse and lame?
2. Static NPCs. Just look at Age Of Wushu cities. They look so much more natural.
3. Spaceship docking/unodcking sequences. They look like done in 15 minutes. Absolutely no movie like feeling.
4. Some Taxi routes also look like done in 15 minutes. Espiecially those on Coruscant and Nar Shaadda.
5. Absolutely ugly planets textures, those where you see planet from orbit. I mean REALLY?
Just from top of my head.
EDIT: And chat bubbles. I wouldnt call it little thing though.
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Joined: 7/04/11
This game is made like the developers had to reverse engineer alien technology and barely understand what they are doing. Minor features are trumpeted as major technical achievements, and then break the game when introduced via amazing bugs that go on and on. They seem to be unable/unwilling to make their game better. I would pay money to know with certainty what the fuck happened during the development of this albatross, and how they keep getting away with the same failures ad nauseum.
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Joined: 9/07/04
Originally posted by baphamet
Thats completely untrue. Its not just the Open PvP hotspots like tarrens mill. Where is the huge battleground like Alteracs Valley that could almost last a whole day in Vanilla times? Where are the different level progression paths for alts even within the same faction? Where are the epic 40 man raids? Where are the worldbosses you can pull into your own factions city to kill every freaking one? Or the city raids where you take several full raids and swarm your enemies faction city and kill its leader? How about the server wide event where everyone had to work at opening the gates of Ahn'Qiraj?
You can't just throw all that into the OPvP bin like its some small part of it. Thats what we where doing in Vanilla WoW 90% of the time at endgame when we didn't run raids or normal BGs, which is the ONLY thing you can do in ToR. Bottom line is there was plenty to do in Vanilla WoW for everyone, you just picked your fancy.
Not sure wether the people who talk about Vanilla WoW these days actually where there. In many ways in Vanilla Wow there was more to do at endgame then in later expansions which obsoleted alot of the activities without providing new.
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Joined: 1/29/12
Originally posted by Rocketeer
This x1000.
Vanilla WoW had so much to do beside dailies and heroics. It was much closer to Elder Scrolls series than it is to current WoW.
Unfortunately, SWTOR couldn't even implement major features of current WoW, let alone scratch the surface of atmosphere that vanilla WoW had.
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playing: LotrO
Bin A wery long time sins i played the game now, but it did haw rear mobs back then, and stuff like that, (remember camping the same HUGE mobb for ages, for some parts for a White Lightsaber crystal ore somthing like that:D
Id love to go bak inn the game, but lost my sec,key gen,,, and to lasy to call suporte to fix it:P
I WANT A SCI-FI MMO!! (NOT EVE, or Fom, or FE)
umm actually, wow didn't have any BG's at release, did you even play it then?
why do you think people pvped at TM? that's the only structured pvp there was then.
BG's were patched in later.
like i said, other than the open pvp (which includes city/town raiding and boss training) wow did not offer any more content than SWTOR did.
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I agree, one of the things which made me quit TOR, was the feeling that there was always this little nagging voice whispering to me what to do with my time: "Go do those dailies, then those, then some ops / FP's, then your daily WZ's..."
And if you went against that daily train, you'd find little to nothing to do otherwise.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
vanilla wow didn't have daily's or heroics LOL
SWTOR does. it has WZ's, it has just as much content if not more than wow had at release, its just a fact.
not saying its as good as wow was by any means but people that say it lacks all these features or it doesn't have the content wow had, are simply incorrect.
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Originally posted by Paddyspub
Many times Devs implement and make changes in games on basis of what majotiy wants. And if majority of SWTOR player base really wanted it, they would implenet ment these 'little' things.
Unless it is to appease 10 forum posters on mmorpg.com, i don't think they would bother with it.
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Originally posted by baphamet
Heh, you're right about heroics, but I'm not sure about daily's. Ahn'Quiraj certainly had a nice grind, daily's or not.
Comparing to vanilla WoW, SWTOR lacks big time: alternative leveling zones, chat bubbles, massive and open world PVP, legendary items chain quests etc. The list could go on based on personal preference such as longer leveling, interesting and demanding dungeons (BRD, UBRS etc.) but meh.


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Wednesday, March 31, 2010
Here's my question: what is the deal with viziers? I don't mean metaphorical viziers like Eric Cantor's spokesperson, although I suppose he could secretly really be a vizier. I mean viziers in art and such. Are they always evil? If they are evil as often as they are portrayed, wouldn't you eventually stop having them? "You know, now that I'm sultan, I'm just going to abolish the position of vizier, because every vizier before has been evil, trying to kill the sultan and marry his daughter and such." Seems logical to me. The daughter marrying seems like a constant, too. I guess getting princesses is why you get into the vizier business in the first place. The first vizier I ever encountered was actually from the original PC game Prince of Persia. (Let me throw my complete support behind the original, Luke Skywalker formless white sack outfit for the prince, by the way.) That dude was bad. Then of course I saw Aladdin and my view of viziers was confirmed.
Also: all viziers are named Jaffar. The PoP one is, the Aladdin one is, the one from The Thief of Baghdad is. Although apparently there's a movie called The Thief and the Cobbler and it has an (evil) vizier named ZigZag, which is pretty strange. Here's my question: if you had to pick someone to rescue a princess from a vizier, would you go with Jake Gyllenhaal? Me neither.
Also: Jake Gyllenhaal-- not Persian.
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Who is the original Evil Vizier Jaffar? I saw The Thief of Bagdad the other day, and yep: an evil vizier named Jaffar trying to marry the sultan's daughter. (Conrad Veidt does give him a certain soulful quality. He did seem to love the princess, just evilly.) But did they get this from somewhere else?
I have seen the Douglas Fairbanks Thief of Bagdad but I don't remember if there was a vizier or not. I remember Anna May Wong being hot, though.
- March 31, 2010 at 6:47 PM
- Friar Zero said...
TVTropes.org provides with a full list of examples in media of the evil vizier.
- March 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM
- Freddie said...
Man. Friar Zero comes through.
- March 31, 2010 at 8:06 PM
See: If some other guy had written this, Freddie, I'd now be expecting 5,000 slick words from you savaging his thoughts along "Orientalism" lines.
See: Japs
- April 1, 2010 at 12:49 AM
- Freddie said...
That guy was railing against real Japanese people of all shapes and sizes that he interacts with every day. I am talking about fictional characters who occupy one particular niche inside a very small range of narratives.
- April 1, 2010 at 9:08 AM
I thought you kind of were criticizing these Evil Viziers along "Orientalism" lines. But then Phil is a pretty lackluster troll.
- April 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM
- Freddie said...
Well let's unpack this-- I think Phil was accusing me of Orientalism, in a jokey way. Which I think is weird, but may be I am an anti-vizier bigot. Now, sure, there's an awful lot to be uncomfortable about with "swords and sandals" movies and games involving the Middle East, but evil viziers are just a part of that. What I'm goofing on certainly does contain a little exoticism.
Phil's not a troll, though.
- April 1, 2010 at 6:35 PM
I'm no troll.
I think?
Or is "troll" the new "hipster"? Or vice versa? Do and deny. Show but pretend not to know.
Er, yeah.
- April 2, 2010 at 12:14 AM
- Joseph FM said...
Wasn't the original evil vizier Haman (*boooo!*), from the Book of Esther? I'm Jewish, so he was at the very least my first exposure to the trope, not least because I loved getting dressed up in costumes for Purim.
- April 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM
That's GRAND vizier to you, chump.
- April 2, 2010 at 3:59 PM
- Miwome said...
Okay, I'm pretty sure this isn't a serious post (though it's hard to tell--Prince of Persia is a serious matter, as I learned at a tender age when it taught me the valuable life lesson that skeletons can come to life and skewer your shit), so I won't go into all the reasons I can think of for why viziers are always evil, or what the word actually means in Arabic.
I will only point out that in the original 1,001 Nights story, the vizier is not very evil at all. Oh, sure, he does bring in girls to be killed by the Sultan Shahryar, but it's his job, I doubt he felt he had much of a choice, and he wasn't happy about it. When Shahrazade--his daughter, mind you--asks to marry Shahryar, he's appropriately horrified as to how his daughter has gone so completely insane as to want to marry this murdering loon of a Sultan. But then he lets her do it, because it's what she wants. And then she saves the kingdom! Now that is what I call a progressive father and a vizier who was pretty much anything but evil when you take the long view.
- April 3, 2010 at 5:24 AM
- Freddie said...
This has been a thread for me getting educated by commenters. (Far from the first time.) Thanks Miwome!
- April 4, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Birbal, Grand Vizier to Akbar the Great of Mughal India, was far from evil. He was the emperor's most trusted adviser. Stories of Birbal's wit are part of Indian folklore and they always portray him as the good guy.
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