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- The bureaucratic solution to a problem
- Fluoridation: "Sciencey" sounding claims ruled unacceptable
- Comparing the Cochrane and NZ Fluoridation Reviews
- Rapid change in attitudes to marriage equality
- Scaremongering and chemophobia
- MH17 tragedy: 1 year on
- Talk of "mini ice age" bunkum
- Progress in removing religious instruction from public schools?
- Fluoridation: Beliefs about safety and benefits
- Climate change: Our time really is running out
- Cochrane fluoridation review. III: Misleading section on dental fluorosis
- June '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Cochrane fluoridation review. II: "Biased" and poor quality research?
- Cochrane fluoridation review. I: Most research ignored
- What is causing warming of the earth?
- New science bloggers wanted for Sciblogs 2.0
- Gagging of scientists – a common problem?
- I wish more people were aware of this
- Misrepresentation of the new Cochrane fluoridation review
- News media – telling us how to think
- Misrepresenting the York fluoride review
- Fluoridation: Misrepresenting the "saliva theory"
- Something to consider
- Fluoridation and horses – another myth
- Science and social media in new Zealand
- Monday morning proverb
- Fake weight-loss study example of wider problem
- Calcium fluoride and the "soft" water anti-fluoridation myth
- May '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Connett & Hirzy do a shonky risk assesment for fluoride
- Making mountains out of scientific mole hills
- Don't expect to see chemical safety data sheets in restaurants
- Being open-minded
- RSNZ Science Book Prize winner – Tangata Whenua
- Don't put all the blame on the Germans – a lesson from World War II
- The problem of "Fact-Resistant Humans"
- What a nice idea
- Water fluoridation effective – new study
- Follow the money?
- The distrust of science – a task for science communication
- We always seem to ignore the causes
- April '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Wise words from Carl Sagan
- Poor peer review – and its consequences
- Connett fiddles the data on fluoride
- ADHD link to fluoridation claim undermined again
- Commercial and ideological support of anti-fluoride activity
- Why is Vladimir Putin so popular in the USA?
- Is comfirmation bias essential to anti-fluoride "research?"
- The will to find out
- IQ not influenced by water fluoridation
- Making sense of scientific research
- The frustrations of modern technology
- March '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- "Fair-weather" scepticism
- Poor peer-review – a case study
- The arrogance of science?
- New Zealand science book prize – 2015 Short list
- ADHD linked to elevation not fluoridation
- Anonymous comments on social media
- More poor-quality research promoted by anti-fluoride activists
- Ukrainian "suicides?"
- Free download – "Severe dental fluorosis and cognitive deficits"
- Are submissions on fluoridation worth it?
- Social media and science – the problems and the challenge
- A couple of "oldies" inject some sense into international politics
- Open letter to Lisa Hansen on NZ Fluoridation Review
- February '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Paper claiming water fluoridation linked to hypothyroidism slammed by experts
- Dirty tactics by anti-fluoride activists in Taupo
- NZ Fluoridation review – Response to Micklen
- NZ Fluoridation review – HS Micklen responds to critique
- Did business interests interfere with Hamilton's fluoride tribunal process?
- A perspective of distances in space
- Download report analysing anti-fluoride attacks on NZ Fluoridation Review
- Social health policies, freedom of choice and responsibility
- Reality of war for civilians
- Stephen Fry not pulling any punches
- January '15 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- US meddling in Ukraine behind coup
- Hypocrisy
- Sunday reading – Richard Dawkins reads some of his "fan mail"
- Is debating with anti-science activists worth the effort?
- Six months on – concerns about MH17 investigation
- Severe dental fluorosis and cognitive deficits – now peer reviewed
- Those evil chemicals
- "Internet and social media misinform thousands daily"
- "I just know"
- The victims of terror
- Fluoride Free NZ report disingenuous – conclusion
- Spotting Bad Science
- October '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- December '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The MH17 blame game
- Down-under Christmas
- Science never claimed to know everything
- Special pleading by Phillipe Grandjean on fluoride
- Special pleading by Phillipe Grandjean on fluoride
- Special pleading by Philippe Grandjean on fluoride
- The inverted ethics of doxxing?
- Fascinating and painless chemistry lessons
- Did the Royal Society get it wrong about fluoridation?
- "Do your own research!"
- Dirty politics over MH17?
- Cherry-picking and misinformation in Stan Litras's anti-fluoride article
- Today's fantasy, tomorrow's possibility
- The farce of a "sciency" anti-fluoride report
- November '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Creationist 'audits' science museum
- "Real" experts' on climate change? Really?
- Water fluoridation and dental fluorosis – debunking some myths
- Proving anecdotes are reliable
- Declan Waugh pushes another anti-fluoride myth
- Severe dental fluorosis the real cause of IQ deficits?
- Catch 22 in Ukraine
- Let's rely on anecdotes instead!
- Open Parachute 2014-11-10 08:08:29
- Standing up to junk science in New Zealand
- Declan Waugh claims it's "clear as day"
- Unusual photo of Moon and Earth.
- Criminal investigation of MH17 tragedy – where is it at?
- There is something about those climate records that keep getting broken
- Putting politicans in their place on climate change
- Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 – what really happened?
- Fluoridation – a racist conspiracy?
- Curiosity's historic comet photo
- When science deniers turn to science
- Fluoride debate: Second response to Rita Barnett-Rose – Daniel Ryan
- Fluoride debate: Response to Daniel Ryan's critique – Rita Bartlett-Rose
- Fluoride debate: A response to Rita Barnett-Rose – Daniel Ryan
- Fluoride debate: The scientific evidence against fluoridation – Rita F. Barnett
- Another legal defeat for NZ anti-fluoridation activists
- Anti-fluoridation propagandists promoting shonky "review"
- How to change your Mind – and why it is good for you
- The science and politics of climate change
- Science and belief
- September '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Peer review of an anti-fluoride "peer review"
- The information war – The NZ Listener takes up arms
- MOM "a thousand times better than cricket"
- Activist's anti-science adverts found misleading – again
- Activist's anti-science adverts found misleading – again
- Don't you get tired of this?
- It's time we did something about sugar
- Crude dredging of the scientific literature
- Anti-fluoride activists define kangaroo court as "independent"
- MH17 – Preliminary report leaves most conspiracy theories intact
- Do you prefer dental fluorosis or tooth decay?
- Emotion Drives Decision
- Ingested fluoride, dental health and old age
- August '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- August '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- August '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Sad news – Victor Stenger has died
- Making money out of fanatics
- Dirty politics on the Royal Society fluoride review
- Review finds community water fluoridation safe and effective
- Anti-fluoride activists unhappy about scientific research
- The Mind of the Science Denier
- Open letter to Jane Nielson – a "fluoridation convert."
- Accidental Renaissance – or intuition?
- Tactics for science denial
- Natural News comes out with a load of heavy metal rubbish on flouride
- July '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Declan Waugh continues his distortion of Finnish fluoride research
- Another fluoridation whopper from Declan Waugh
- I am still waiting for my cheque
- An answer to the anti-fluoride critics – in one image
- Some answers to the confusion about the #MH17 crash site
- Informed parents know water fluoridation is good for their children
- Making political capital out of the deaths of innocents
- Elected officials must ignore activists and listen to own voters
- The irony of some peer-review and citation complaints
- Ken Ring pontificates on climate change
- Anti-science US Congressman on House science Committee!
- "Creative" reporting of fluoridation science
- What happens when fluoridation is stopped?
- June '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Controversial IQ study hammered in The Lancet
- Controversial IQ study hammered in The Lancet
- New group challenging the anti-science brigade
- New group challenging the anti-science brigade
- Fluoridation: what about reports it is ineffective?
- Fluoridation: what about reports it is ineffective?
- Approaching scientific literature sensibly
- Approaching scientific literature sensibly
- Declan Waugh's misinformation on fluorosilicic acid
- Declan Waugh's misinformation on fluorosilicic acid
- A healthy attitude towards quantum mechanics
- A healthy attitude towards quantum mechanics
- An open letter to Declan Waugh – new mechanism for fluoride toxicity?
- An open letter to Declan Waugh – new mechanism for fluoride toxicity?
- Toxicity is in the dose or concentration of fluoride
- Toxicity is in the dose or concentration of fluoride
- Toxicity is in the dose or concentration of fluoride
- Councils and scientists targeted by anti-fluoride activists
- Councils and scientists targeted by anti-fluoride activists
- Lugansk – a modern Guernica?
- Lugansk – a modern Guernica?
- Inna Kukuruza – "her eyes spoke to the whole world"
- Connett's hypocrisy on fluoride & IQ
- May '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Confirmation blindness on the fluoride-IQ issue
- Where do teeth come from? The stork theory
- There is research and there is "research"
- Fluoridating water does not lower IQ – New Zealand research
- Fluoride and IQ – once more
- Another anti-fluoride myth in the making
- A balanced debate
- It's all the fashion in Ukraine
- Fluoridation: What a difference a year makes?
- Wishart misrepresents fluoride science to advance his extreme ideology
- Fluoridation: emotionally misrepresenting contamination
- April '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Peer review, shonky journals and misrepresenting fluoride science
- Ingested fluoride is beneficial to dental health.
- Anti-fluoridation advertising deceptive
- Fluoridation: putting chemical contamination in context
- The first victim!
- An outdated tax anomaly – charitable status of relgion
- Declan Waugh scaremongers over fluoride – again
- Arrogance of ignorance?
- Pandering to anti-fluoridation campaigners
- International cooperation in space serving humanity
- Is anyone listening?
- March '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Scientific cooperation despite political posturing
- Fluoridation returns to Hamilton City.
- European border changes over 5000 years
- Dental fluorosis: badly misrepresented by FANNZ
- What makes something right or wrong?
- How do we know what is true?
- Cherry-picking and ring-fencing the scientific literature
- Fluoride and heart disease – another myth
- Graphic information in science
- Corporate backers of anti-fluoride movement lose in NZ High Court.
- Terry Pratchett making sense
- Fluoride and the 5 easy steps of a conspiracy theory
- February '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Pseudoscience in your supermarket
- Another god debate
- Repeating bad science on fluoride
- Truth about those science fairs
- Quality and selection counts in fluoride research
- The precautionary principle
- How can scientists use social media?
- Curiosity sees a familiar "evening star."
- The fluoride debate – what do the experts say?
- January '14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Entertainment is brain exercise
- Download The Fluoride Debate
- Determining scientific knowledge by petition
- Fluoride debate: Final article – Ken Perrott
- Fluoride debate: Paul Connett's Closing statement
- The good(?) old days of scientific writing
- Most of us missed this one
- False balance and straw clutching on fluoridation
- Who is funding anti-fluoridation High Court action?
- Astro-turfing for scientific credibility
- Losing trust in religious leaders
- Conspiracy theorists misuse analytical evidence
- All things bright and beautiful
- December '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- December
- Fluoride debate: Ken Perrott's closing response to Paul Connett?
- Putting vaccination risks into context
- Fluoride debate: Arguments Against Fluoridation Thread. Part 8. Paul
- Alan Turing receives royal pardon
- The true meaning of Christmas
- Where is the heat going?
- Fluoride debate: Response to Paul's 5th article
- Back to the moon!
- Fluoride debate: Arguments Against Fluoridation Thread. Part 5. Paul
- Census 2013 – religious diversity
- Fluoride debate: Response to Paul's 6th article.
- Testing the God theory
- Fluoridation debate: Against Fluoridation Thread. Part 6.
- November '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- 'The particle at the end of the universe' wins Winton Prize
- Fluoridation debate: Why I support fluoridation – 2nd reply to Connett
- Psychics have it easy these days
- Fluoride Debate: Why I support fluoridation – 2nd response from Connett
- From dental neglect to child abuse?
- Fluoride Debate: Why I support fluoridation – response to Connett
- Fluoride debate: Why I support fluoridation – Response from Connett
- Word of wisdom, and otherwise
- Have local climate pseudosceptics come to the end of the road?
- Fluoride debate: Why I support fluoridation
- Sin is relative
- Fluoride debate – I get email
- Fluoride debate Part 1a – response to Connet's response: Perrott
- Fluoride debate – some housekeeping
- Fluoride debate Part 1a – response: Connett
- October '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Fluoride debate Part 1: Perrott
- Fluoride debate Part 1: Connett
- The fluoride debate – introduction
- The origins of ethics and violence
- What's really true?
- Moral animals
- Anti-fluoridation porkies – Mullinex's rats
- Science and faith
- NZ climate change "sceptics" abandon appeal
- Christianity has hijacked human values
- Fluoridation: Hangout with the University of Waikato
- The universe – it is bigger than you think
- Our Far South – time we learned about it
- Christian ethics and Peter Singer
- Fluoride – friend or foe: a lecture
- Cyber bullying of science
- Fluoridation: the hip fracture deception
- September '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Tim Minchin – an inspirational speech to graduates
- Jon Stewart interviews Richard Dawkins
- Anatomy of an anti-fluoridation myth
- NZ experts deplore anti-fluoridation misrepresentation of science
- Helping kids to wonder
- Fluoridation – the IQ myth
- When politicians and bureaucrats decide the science
- Welcome counter to scientific and health misinformation
- New "evidence" for global cooling?
- Phobos eclipses the sun – as seen by Curiosity
- Dentists you can trust?
- Activists peddle chemical misinformation for fluoridation referenda
- August '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Cherry picking fluoridation data
- Anti-fluoridationist astro-turfing and media manipulation
- Anti-fluoride activists attempt to silence science
- Crazy ideas and "supernatural" phenomena
- Experts speak out on fluoridation
- Fluoride sensitivity – all in the mind?
- Earthquakes and twitter
- Cyber-bullying – what's with sunscreen?
- Anti-fluoridation study flawed – petition rejected
- News media influences public trust in science
- The "consensus message" in communicating science
- Hamilton – the water is the problem, not the fluoride!
- Hamilton – the water is the problem, not the fluoride!
- Topical confusion persists
- Celebrate your curiosity – one year on
- July '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Is this the way to reorganise science?
- The limits of science and a world record
- Water treatment chemicals – why pick on fluoride?
- Are you qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell?
- The Galileo fallacy and denigration of scientific consensus
- A new Cosmos
- Michael Mann's defamation lawsuit on track
- Is fluoridated water a medicine?
- Debunking anti-fluoridation myths
- Source of moral authority has shifted
- Fluoridation – an organised campaign to misinform.
- Hamilton gets its fluoridation referendum
- Not your usual rocket launch
- Fluoridation – topical confusion
- Communicating climate science – Michael Mann comments
- Fluoridation and conspiracy theories
- Richard Dawkins learns about the Bible
- Fluoridation – the violation of rights argument.
- June '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The victim mentality of conspiracy theorists
- Poisoning the well with a caricature of science
- Fluoridation petition – for Hamilton citizens
- The importance of books for kids
- Fluoridation – it does reduce tooth decay
- Stop feeling guilty
- Getting a grip on the science behind claims about fluoridation
- Is fluoride an essential dietary mineral?
- Will Hamiltonians finally get a voice on fluoridation?
- Scientists, political activism and the scientific ethos
- Fluoridation – are we dumping toxic metals into our water supplies?
- When science is under attack
- Tactics and common arguments of the anti-fluoridationists
- Hamilton City Council reverses referendum fluoridation decision
- Global warning in science fiction
- May '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Peter Singer on effective charity
- The science of consciousness
- Collapse of Arctic sea ice
- An eReader breakthrough?
- Singing about the periodic table
- Black cat in a dark room – and the role of science
- A New Zealand climate change pseudosceptic apologises!
- Pseudosceptics are at it again – misrepresenting and attacking climate scientists
- Chris Hadfield's 5-month Space Mission in 90 Seconds
- Confusion and distortion – has global warming stopped?
- "Incontrovertible" is it, Rodney?
- Video coverage of astronauts' return to earth next Tuesday morning
- A beggar's market?
- Interfaith delusions
- The limits of philosophy
- April '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- 'The Unbelievers' and science
- A global warming hoax meme is born – in New Zealand too!
- Friday follies – what happened to the "official AGW hypothesis?"
- Fiddling with census figures for religion in New Zealand
- The beginning (of the universe) for beginners
- Terrorism and the West's obsession with oil
- Marriage equality, retribution and moral progress
- A sombre night in Boston
- Moving into the mainstream – on the coat tails of the "New Atheists"
- Thatcher, Monckton and Pinochet
- Potty peer in Waikato
- New Zealand Blog ranking Montage
- What is global temperature?
- I was wrong about Lord Monckton
- New "Hockey Stick" but same tired old denial
- March '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- April Fools and Agenda 21
- Christchurch from space
- A war between religion and science?
- Climate contrarians/deniers are cherry picking again
- Dishonesty of intelligent design "research"
- Something for all those lapsed catholics
- Dawkins' new book
- Our world from the International Space Station
- Creationists prefer numerology to real scientific research
- Don't panic
- Talking sense about morality
- Extreme confirmation bias in action
- Greedy Lying Bastards
- Those arguments against marriage equality
- Census 2013: That religion question
- Climate change is not simple
- February '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- A sensible Christian perspective on Peter Singer
- No immutable truths, no eternal dogmas
- Global climate – and your grandchildren
- Entertaining – and the science is good
- The truth about the hockey stick
- Origins of religious ethics and violence
- Sean Faircloth, Director of Richard Dawkins Foundation, visiting NZ
- The Russian meteor – what we know
- Should we be prepared?
- Does religion blur understanding of evolution?
- The "dynamic duo" of science?
- A day for cheap shots
- Science as the best, possibly only, way to truth
- The reality of cancer
- Education should never validate ignorance
- "Divine commands" and personal conscience
- January '13 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Troll training
- Is your region warming?
- No cause for alarm – if you cherry pick
- The political alarmism behind climate change denial
- Can philosophers, or anyone, tell us what is "right" and "wrong"?
- History of science – for Kiwis
- Who is guilty of misusing science?
- Deconstructing climate change, and its deniers
- Deconstructing climate change, and its deniers
- Amazing photos of Shuttle Endeavour flight deck
- Australia's "New Normal?"
- Going beyond the evidence
- A time for hypocrisy
- A time for hypocrisy
- Historians and sociologists just as human as scientists
- December '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- December
- A problem with logic
- Historians and sociologists lecture scientists – about science
- Wonders of Life coming – we hope
- A dose of reality
- Pulling the wool over the eyes of the faithful
- Scientists and philosophers discuss morality and meaning
- Christmas present from NASA
- At last – Moving Naturalism Forward videos
- Getting the Book Invented
- Sense on evolutionary psychology.
- Does science have a cognitive privilege?
- Sceptical humility and peer review in science
- Cancer – an emotional rollercoaster
- Sceptical arrogance and evolutionary psychology
- And now for a bit of drama
- Agreement polar ice sheets are melting
- November '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Regarding women as animals
- Christmas present for nerds – what about science books?
- Time for philosophical honesty about Darwin
- Religion in schools – a sensible approach
- Climate change deniers don't understand expertise
- The arrogance of supernatural privilege
- Morality and non-human animals
- More damage from megastorm Sandy
- Capturing kid's minds with emotions
- That particle again
- Who were Stalin's victims?
- Reports from the Moving Naturalism Forward workshop
- The elephant in the US elections
- October '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Sex, Death And The Meaning Of Life. Episode 3: Meaning
- Who are these "credible experts"?
- The mini-iPad and original sin
- Death – part 2 of a series
- Beer, anxiety and depression – their origins
- Why (some) Christians support discrimination
- Sex, Death And The Meaning Of Life – Sin
- Moving Naturalism Forward
- A concise summary of climate change – science and politics
- From evolution to belief
- Are you offended yet?
- This has to stop
- Sneaking in the magic man
- Naturalism and science are incompatible
- None so blind
- A Kiwi makes it to Mars!
- September '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The most important place you didn't know about
- A useful map of the human body
- The paradoxes of theological gullibility
- The internet – Yeah, right!
- US air traffic on a typical day and on September 11, 2001
- Finish the sentence . . .
- People saying stupid things on the Internet
- Another anti-science attack on Mann fails – but the lies continue
- Secularism – its internal problems
- Politics and economics of Arctic ice loss
- Internet silos become ideological ghettos
- Climate change denier's false "deep distress" fools no-one
- Changing that light bulb while in denial
- High Court ruled on integrity – not science
- New Zealand climate change denial defeated
- I don't know!
- Making giant flowers out of fireworks
- Moral evolution in today's society
- August '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Drifting moral values
- Subjective morality – not what it seems?
- Objective or subjective laws and lawgivers
- Neil Armstrong by Buz Aldrin
- Nooooo!
- Making sense of religion, science, and morality
- Kiwi science fiction with a message
- Science – the greatest story ever told
- A sundial on Curiosity?
- Scientific shift work
- Cynical evangelisation of children
- Therapeutic ranting
- Infectious jubilation
- Curiosity requires patience
- Going for gold – on Mars
- A load of science
- July '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- NZ Blog Rankings FAQ
- So scientism = non-theism?
- Saying it with flowers
- What really happens in religious instruction classes?
- What Is Life? From Schrödinger to Watson to Venter
- Their mission – values or advancement of religion?
- The story behind the High Court action
- Ethical enquiry or moral instruction?
- Scepticism, denial and the high court
- William Lane Craig's philosophy – the condensed version
- So you think science has a problem?
- Peter Singer on the misrepresentation of Peter Singer
- Human values are secular
- End of life decisions
- Why the Higgsteria?
- Cost of scientific research – and political naivity
- The creationism controversy – a summary
- Is there room for religion in science?
- June '12 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Scientific knowledge should trump "belief"
- Seven Minutes of Terror
- Australian census confirms healthy trend
- Science is messy – for girls too!
- Print-on-demand books – what's the hold-up?
- How to write a best-seller!
- Sharp increase in "nones"
- A disciplined discussion
- What did Galileo ever do to you?
- Gnu bashing once again
- The prejudiced journalist
- Do atheists need religion?
- Mixing values and Jesus in secular education
- The Scamtific Method
- May '12 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Scientific knowledge — reliable but not certain
- Weather extremes and climate change
- 'Web monkeys' and science presentation
- Dementia — There's an app for that!
- Give them enough rope . . .
- Why won't Inland Revenue subsidise my life expenses?
- Human morality is evolving
- So you're considering switching to eBooks?
- Welcome to the Anthropocene
- Naturalism in science
- 'Lose' your faith, gain your life?
- What's in store for eBook readers
- Heartland ignorant of public relations — let alone science
- Belief and morality
- What has science ever done for us?
- April '12 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The problem with philosophy
- Puddles and 'fine-tuning'
- Great science talks in Auckland
- Science denial is a diversion from the real problems
- When the 'best explanation' is the worst explanation
- Toss out the moderator for a better discussion
- Jesus heals — but not cancer!
- Emotional time for Shuttle fans
- Catholic popes victims of sexual abuse!
- Who is committing fraud here?
- Morality and the 'worship' of reason
- The silliness of a self-proclaimed 'investigative journalist'
- Moral behavior in animals
- Conservatives, liberals and purity
- The trouble with physics?
- Is God incredible — or what?
- Science and the folly of faith
- Quantum politics
- March '12 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Another lousy photo of the sun?
- The Sand Creatures
- Reasonable truth?
- A fuzzy photo of the sun
- The 'public square' myth
- Yes, please try this at home!
- Cascading books
- Beyond Religion
- 'Good faith' science — and its enemies
- Climate change controversy in context
- Shy climate denier in 'science team' reveals himself.
- The chickens are hatching
- February '12 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The size of things
- Mindboggling
- Flying pigs
- A universe in an eBook (or app)
- Co-opting 'Truth'
- Souvenirs for scientists
- Heartland Insitute gets mail
- Heartland's climategate — and Mann's book
- Bioluminescence in space!
- ID research and publications
- Theological mental gymnastics over evolution
- 'What, me worry?' — distorting climate change data
- Free will — problems of definition
- January '12 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- The scientific method — what about the philosophical method?
- In the front lines of the 'climate wars'
- Who is funding the climate change denial groups?
- Our fingerprints are all over it!
- The [in]compatibility of science and religion
- Comprehending reality — Should we give up so easily?
- Nothing is something
- Who drives the science/religion conflict?
- Open letter across the barricade
- New book formats
- The argument from authority (or lack thereof)
- December '11 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- December
- Peter Jackson — Satan's Little Helper'
- 'Other ways of knowing' and their result.
- Slaughtering some sacred seasonal cows
- Reacting to a death with respect and hatred
- Sabotaging science
- Christmas present ideas: This Hell would be useful!
- Higgs and homeopathy
- Christmas gift ideas: Aussie wisdom
- Christmas gift ideas: The human mind — a history
- Christmas gift ideas: Evolution of gods, morals and violence
- Christmas gift ideas: Working on Mars
- Christmas gift ideas: One for the kids
- Christmas gift ideas: Why we deny climate change
- Christmas gift ideas: Thinking of our grandchildren
- Christmas gift ideas: How We Know What's Really True
- Christmas gift ideas: Kids — it's OK to be different!
- A debunking handbook provides lessons in science communication
- November '11 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Finding out about the astronomers who found the universe
- Hypocritical gratitude?
- Climategate 2.0 and 'toecurling' journalism
- It's crowded up there
- Moral strawmannery
- Creative science writing
- Royal Society's science book of year Winton Prize winner.
- Reclaiming 'intelligent design'
- A lesson in human logic
- Is Keith Ward really that naive about science?
- Fine-tuning fallacies
- Cultural effect of The Big Bang Theory
- Answer simple question — win an iPad
- New Zealand in good company. Pity about the USA
- Rational morality
- October '11 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- What's your number?
- Concern over William Lane Craig's justification of biblical genocide
- Outsourcing moral decisions to justify genocide
- New Zealand happy — some preachers upset!
- The never ending battle
- Having it both ways
- Ranking human conflicts and tyrannies
- Dawkins responds to a stalker — Craig gets his debate
- Avoiding possible catastrophe — even if you are confused
- You CAN be good with God!
- Big money behind local climate change deniers?
- Historians of science sometimes miss the wood for the trees
- Approaching morality scientifically
- Ethicists have problems with ethics!
- The climate change denial machine
- How do you know that?
- How We Know What's Really True
- Problems with pdf eBooks — metadata issues
- September'11 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Compulsory payments for advancement of religion — let's get rid of that.
- Some recent recommended science books
- Art in science
- Evolutionary cooperation
- Where have we been?
- Rings around Uranus
- William Lane Craig's 'logic'
- Science and the 'supernatural'
- Empathy for colleagues
- Approaching a Middle East peace
- Atheists aren't shrill — just disgusting?
- What's this about cosmic rays and global warming?
- Making life from the primordial soup
- Evolution and education — advice for teachers
- That's what I like to see in a young woman!
- A reminder of reality's magic
- August '11 — NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
- Religious theology of secularism
- Martydom of the priveliged
- Another book for the kids
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Wednesday, March 13, 2013
The South Carolina Department of Education has appointed Dr. Kari Lee Siko, assistant professor of English education and interim dean of the School of Education at Charleston Southern, to represent South Carolina in a multistate standard setting study.
The Educational Testing Service study, for the Praxis English test, an educator's licensure test, is being conducted at ETS's Princeton Campus this month.
In the past, states have set their own standards for the Praxis test. "This is the first time that ETS has brought educators from states together to work on setting the standards," said Siko. "I am honored that out of all the nominated English educators from South Carolina that I was appointed to represent the state at this important policy making study."
Siko said with the introduction of Common Cores State Standards for English Language Arts, English educators need to realign their current practices with the new standards. "This is a shift in thinking from each state having specific standards to a nationwide set of standards," she said.
CCSS has been adopted in 47 states and will be implemented in South Carolina next year.
Dr. Robin Franklin, CSU assistant professor of education, was recently appointed by the S.C. Department of Education to represent the state in a multistate standard setting study for the Praxis I test.
"The fact that Dr. Franklin and I were appointed to represent South Carolina shows that CSU has highly qualified faculty teaching in the School of Education," Siko said. "There are only three Praxis tests currently being revamped and having multistate standards setting studies done this year – and for two of the three (studies), CSU is representing South Carolina."
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In their season opener, the Antlers Bearcats were hosted by the Valliant Bulldogs on September 6. The visitor stands were packed with Bearcat fans, anxious to see how the team would respond with new coaching staff and 47 players. On the opening kick off, the Bearcats took control of the ball and marched down the field, scoring a touchdown right off the bat with Junior Lucas Austin (#34) running up the middle. Senior Tanner Brown (#12) kicked the extra point and the score was 7 to 0. The Bulldogs tried to prevail against the Bearcats, but the defense held strong.
Megan Birchfield, shown here with Southeastern Coach Ron Faubion, will be attending Southeastern Oklahoma State University in Durant this fall where she will be playing softball for the Lady Savage Storm.
"I am so excited for the opportunity to continue playing a game I love and to have the chance to compete with such a great team," Birchfield said.
The Lady Savage Storm finished their season with a #2 National ranking and a record of 45-9.
The Rattan Rams took home their second consecutive spring state title despite a month layover. Last Tuesday, Wright City was reinstated and the tournament resumed the following Thursday.
Their state tournament journey began more than a month ago with a 15-5 quarterfinal run rule of Thomas-Fay-Custer. Hours after the contest the tournament was suspended.
The Rams didn't waste any time in extras putting two runs across in the top of the eighth and finishing off the Tigers in the bottom half of the inning with the 5-3 final.
On Saturday morning, June 1, couples arrived at the Potapo boat ramp on McGee Creek Lake to participate in the Annual Husband-wife Bass Tournament. However, after discussing current weather conditions and a forecast calling for heavy rain and possibly severe thunderstorms during the first half of the day, members voted to postpone the tournament and fish fry that was scheduled after the tournament until Saturday, June 22. Fishing times will remain the same from 7:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. with a shore side fish fry to follow immediately after the weigh-in.
The Oklahoma National Archery in the Schools Program (OKNASP) is sponsored by the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife. There are over 369 schools that participate statewide. The curriculum must be taught during the school day by a certified archery instructor.
Regionals are held in February and broke up into 6 regions. Southeast Oklahoma is Region 5 and the Regional Shoot is held at the Expo Center in McAlester.
The North and South team split the basketball games during Eastern Oklahoma State College's 41st annual Kiamichi All-Star Classic on May26 in Wilburton.
The South girls' basketball team pulled off a close 69-67 victory over the North team in the first game of the night. Miranda Schaefer of Wright City was named the South MVP for her 16 points and Katie Smith of Checotah was named the North MVP for her 15 points.
If you enjoy bass fishing, winning cash, prizes and trophies, then you might want to consider entering in this year's Big Bass Rodeo. The Pushmataha County Sportsman Club will host the 42nd Annual Big Bass Rodeo on April 20-21, at Pine Creek Lake. This is the oldest, continuous running big bass tournament in the state and quite possibly the nation. This is the club's only fund raising event.
Megan Buchanan had a cold and windy day to contest with but she finished 1st at the Valliant High School Tournament that was held on April 2nd at the Idabel Country Club. Megan shot a score of 83.
Their next tournament will be the Allen HS Tournament that will be held at Atoka Trails Golf Course in Atoka.
On Thursday March 28, 2013, The Antlers HS Girls Golf team hosted a HS girls golf tournament at Hugo Golf Club. School attending were Antlers, Broken Bow, Haworth, Valliant, Haileyville, Allen, and Coalgate.
First place for individuals went to Megan Buchanan of Antlers with a score of 78; 2nd was April Hughes of Haworth with a 79; and 3rd went to Beyla Skelton of Allen with a 82.
Placing first for overall team score was Allen, with second going to Broken Bow.
Also participating for Antlers HS was Breanna Rosa and Gianna Allensworth!
Recently three Antlers Elementary School students participated in the Dallas Mavericks Dancers Dance Camp in Dallas, TX. The girls learned dances which were performed as a camp finale.


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What's Your Prayer Rule Like?
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I didn't know a) that ordinary laymen have Prayer rules nor b) that individual Prayer Rules are something to be discussed publicly on internet.
Mine goes like this:"Ok, time to say my morning prayers.... wait.... im gonna get a cup of coffee first."hours pass...."well, time to go to work. i missed my morning prayers, so ill just make up for it during my night prayers..."get home. hang out with my wife. go to bed.repeat.
I use an app called Pray Always. I forget who makes it.
Hey Punch, think you could share the name of that App? Is it available for the iPhone?
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The boys' basketball program at N.C. School of Science and Mathematics has struggled for years to produce wins and needs fresh ideas, Unicorns athletics director Greg Jarvis said, announcing the departure of coach Anthony Myles.
Jarvis has replaced Myles with Derryl Britt, 1-19 during his only season as the Unicorns' girls' basketball coach last season, a post he'll continue to hold as he takes on a dual-role this year.
The Unicorns were 6-15 under Myles last season and 5-18 the year before that.
"It was just that time for a change with the program," Jarvis said. "It really wasn't a win-loss issue."
Myles, who said he served off and on for 21 years at NCSSM as both a head coach and an assistant coach, wanted the Unicorns to understand that the shakeup was not his idea.
"My only concern is I just don't want the players, especially the seniors, to feel like I abandoned them as their coach," Myles said. "I don't want them to think that just because we had a losing record that I'm bailing out. If they can accept that, then I can move on."
NCSSM, an academically elite boarding school for some of the state's top junior and senior high school students, has been reclassified from 1-A to 2-A. Anticipating the arrival of some talented athletes, Jarvis said he saw in Britt a coach whose approach to the game would fit this year's Unicorns.
The Unicorns will be looking to get up the floor in a hurry on offense and pressure the ball on defense, Britt said.
"We plan on putting them in some sets where they can kind of showcase their talent," Britt said. "We've got a lot of kids who are raw, and, of course, having the type of kids we've got, their minds, they're very absorbent. So you teach them something, it sets in. But now it's trying to get them to actually apply it on the floor."
Besides the two-year limit on player development, NCSSM coaches and players deal with more rigorous academic responsibilities than coaches and players at traditional high schools.
"It's definitely a challenge," Britt said. "We've got some good kids right now, and I'm just going to try to get the most out of this group, and we won't even look to define that in wins and losses."
So far, so good in practice, Britt said.
"They look good going against each other," Britt said with a chuckle.
Britt, 45, is a teacher assistant at Granville Central High School in Stem. His daily commute to Durham doesn't worry Jarvis, who said Britt was able to pull it off last season with the NCSSM girls.
Jarvis said Britt spent plenty of time on campus last season.
Britt said, "I'm there for the kids when they need me.".
This is the first high school boys' head coaching gig for Britt, who studied at Norfolk State yet didn't play basketball there, although he said he suited up in Honduras after playing travel ball in the U.S. Army.
Britt previously served as an assistant girls' coach at Granville Central and Southern.
Seven area teams remain alive and headed into tonight's third round of the N.C. High School Athletic Association volleyball playoffs.
Most prominent among them is PAC-6 4-A champion Riverside (25-1), which hosts Cap Eight champion Broughton (18-2) at 6 p.m.
In the 3-A ranks, Cedar Ridge (22-7) and Chapel Hill (20-8) tied for second in the Big Eight 3-A Conference and take to the road today with Cedar Ridge in Erwin to face Triton (21-3) at 6:30 while Chapel Hill travels to 17-6 Topsail at 6 p.m.
Both remaining 2-A representatives are also on the road at 6 tonight, 19-6 Carrboro traveling to 24-1 Trinity Wheatmore and 23-5 South Granville visiting 16-2 Elizabeth City Northeastern.
A North Central 1-A Conference matchup is also on tap, with 18-7 Roxboro Community School, the league's third-place finisher, visiting co-champion Voyager Academy (18-3) at 6 p.m.


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International Students Honored for ScholarshipPosted Nov. 26, 2012
The second annual School of Communication Studies (COMM) Senior Scholars Award was presented at the "Spotlight on Senior Scholars" event on November 8 to acknowledge students' academic success and potential for excellence in the future. Forty-two students were honored for their hard work and dedication. Three international students, Yiwen Zhang, Xuehai Jiang and Nada Alshibil, were honored for their academic success. To receive an award, a student needed to be nominated by a COMM faculty member.
Keynote speaker, Dr. George E. Cheney addressed post graduation plans for seniors in his "Now What Am I Going To Do?" presentation. Two COMM Studies master's graduates Bethany Frampton and Jason Sabo spoke about their own success stories. Frampton and Sabo discussed how graduate school impacted them, emphasizing the idea that everyone has a different path but graduate school prepared them to get to where they are today.
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Ludwig Lug Splay Solution
I've perused these forums off and on for years now and it's another fine resource for information. So glad it's here :-)
Anyway, I've decided to come out of the shadows because I need to see if anyone can answer these two questions with some authority:
1. Will aftermarket Gibraltar triple-flanged hoops correct the dreaded Ludwig lug splay?
2. Will Gibraltar hoops even fit on the Ludwig Classic Maple drums?
I spent roughly six months doing copious amounts of research on my next (and probably final) kit and finally decided on the Classic Maples. They have everything I could want in a drum in terms of sound. I knew about the lug splay issue, in fact, I saw various degrees of lug splay on every modern Ludwig drum I tried out at the local drum shops. Of course, it doesn't affect that wonderful sound whatsoever, but I can possibly see tuning/durability issues in the long term. Sooooo, I would like to know if this is a good solution to correct this issue or am I just gonna have to deal with it? I haven't really found specific answers to these questions through my own research so I've come here in the hopes of getting some :-)
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Contact LUDWIG directly, that'd be something cool to ad to the forum and we'd like to know what they think about the design flaw.
Aftermarket hoops will fit, but they won't correct the problem, which is a mathematical lug to shell oversight.
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Honestly, I wouldn't worry about the splay at all unless you've got a drum with tube lugs, where the splay can cause the tension rods to bind in the lugs. And even then, snares are the only drums that have enough tension in the t-rods for splay to matter.
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The lug insert is designed to swivel within it's seat in the lug casing to accommodate a certain degree of tension rod splay.
It doesn't cause any tuning issues or damage to the drum.
If you like the Ludwig kit then you should buy it and enjoy it to the fullest.
Ludwig drums are not the only drums that have some tension rod splay.
If you want you can add a double lug gasket to bring the lug out from the shell a slight bit.
I personally think that it would be a waste of time and money to do so. :)
I own a modern Black Beauty that has no lug gaskets. There is a slight degree of splay.
It is one of my favorite snare drums and I sometimes can't wait to get home from work to play it.
I also have a vintage Gretsch Cob snare that has some splay. Another beautiful drum that I have cherished for almost 40 years.
I kind of like old drums:)
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My research has lead to be believe there are two issues that both contribute to the splay:
The first was the change from 1.6mm to 2.3mm hoops
The second, is attributed to the theory that the actual shell is now ever so slightly smaller than they used to be. The evidence used to support this theory is that the specs of Imperial lug itself haven't changed, yet there is a distinctly larger gap between the centre bead of the shell and the Imperial lug on newer drums, especially when compared to those of the 60's and 70's. The best explaination for this discrepancy is that the shells (no doubt as a cost saving measure) are now ever so slightly slightly smaller.
It's worth noting that I haven't been able to confirm this through any official sources. But it makes sense and all seems to fit. The theory is touted around the internet in various places if anyone cares to look for it. Given this, I'm gonna hazzard a guess that it won't matter what 2.3mm hoop you use. The smaller shell is still gonna come into play.
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The best explaination for this discrepancy is that the shells (no doubt as a cost saving measure) are now ever so slightly slightly smaller.
... or maybe their molds have shrunk.
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The 3 ply Ludwig shells that were discontinued in the 70's were slighter larger in diameter.
The slightly smaller 6 ply shells that replaced them have remained the same over the years.
I kind of like old drums:)
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Firstly, thanks to everyone for their comments thus far :-)
I've already ordered the drums some time ago, so the splay was not a deal breaker for me. They just sound so good to my ear...splay or no splay lol.
I have in fact seen splay on the wood snares as well. Doesn't seem quite as pronounced as their metal snares though. But it's there nonetheless. It's quite possible that the drums arrive with no splay at all. But if they did, I wondered if there was a solution.
I haven't seen splay on other drum brands but then again, I wasn't really looking for it either. I noticed it on the Ludwigs only because I've known of the issue beforehand. So as it goes, would I have noticed had I not known? Interesting question...
So with a solution seemingly out of reach, the next question is whether or not it would affect the drum's tuning or durability (e.g. stripped rods, stripped lugs, etc). Since the receivers have some play in them I'm guessing not, but has anyone had this issue as a direct result of the splayed lugs?
I'll contact Ludwig just to say I did, but I suspect I will get a canned answer lol. They haven't bothered to fix it so it's probably a non-issue to them.
P.S. I missed the bit about it not affecting the tuning or drum integrity. So I won't worry further about it :-) Thanks a bunch!!
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Originally Posted by Les Ismore
... or maybe their molds have shrunk.
So have I, mate. So have I.
That's what life does to us....
It's quite possible that the drums arrive with no splay at all.
So, order LUDWIG and 'pray' they arrive with good fit/finish. Is that where its at with the old lion? Is that the message informed/caring potential customers (with plenty of other drum brand options) are getting from these drum forums??
I haven't seen splay on other drum brands but then again, I wasn't really looking for it either. I noticed it on the Ludwigs only because I've known of the issue beforehand.
Dude, you're reading way too many drum forums. Believe 'only' what you read on DRUMMERWORLD and then only w/caution.
So with a solution seemingly out of reach (hah!!), the next question is whether or not it would affect the drum's tuning or durability (e.g. stripped rods, stripped lugs, etc). Since the receivers have some play in them I'm guessing not, but has anyone had this issue as a direct result of the splayed lugs?
The LUDWIGGIES have responded, there's a 'swivel nut' in the lug, which is an ancient part invented to counter design inconsistencies. In the days of yore tube lug designs ruled, but you had/have to be somewhat precise when threading screws into tube lugs. The swivel nut solved this problem, build tolerances could be way off, the screwer could be drunk, high (way off) and the swivel nut insert would come to the rescue of the screwee and save thread.
In general lug splay is unsightly, take it as you may. For some it can be a major issue, especially when a company is selling a pricy snare drum/kit with tension rods jacked all over the place. Then you're in the shop and see a new $100 snare drum that's lined up perfectly, like they might have used a computer in the design process, hmmmm, or at least the proper math, or any math at all. It begs the question 'why'? This is the 21st century, our cell phones are smaller, more powerful than the computers that got us to the moon and back. Lug splay??? C'mon, who's paying for that!!
Some people are perfectionists, more detail conscious. They'll see a kit onstage, or a $2000.00 snare with rods jacked all over the place and equate it with low quality, they can't justify dumping all that cash and it not being perfect... and in this day and age it should be. Your character may then be in question too, like "Why you would spend your money on that, are you as un together as your drums(?)" etc. The influence of brand loyalty and a companies steep heritage could cause one to overlook certain things. Good for the manufacture...maybe for awhile, until the competition starts getting fatter.
In the case of LUDWIG it may be a matter of something like changing an established design will be a big ha$$el, they might not feel the effort is worth the cost, they've got some more splaining to do. The reality is any new, or old-skool builder can look at their faux pas and say "Hey, we can easily fix that... and our stuff will look more together"! That's exactly what's happening.
On the bright side lug splay does help hold tuning, especially on tube lugs. If rods/lugs are lined up perfectly in tube lugs, there's a better chance of detuning from vibration as the friction of the misalignment (lug splay) produces a little holding power. Ditto on lug designs with inserts (swivel nuts), the more out of wack the splay, the more friction equaling better holding power. That's been my experience anyway. There's variables, like how well the threads are cut etc. which in the case of 2013 the threads are cut more precise with consistency. In the old days loose threads meant lug splay was not as effective as it is in modern/higher tolerance times. Some old SUPRAS (when they were new) even with excessive lug splay didn't hold tuning worth a crap, thread tolerances were inconsistent. As the drums aged, tolerances (if lucky) were taken up (somewhat) by the effects of time on the material, usually in the form of corrosion.
Last edited by Les Ismore; 07-05-2013 at 11:12 PM.
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Are there better drums out there in terms of fit/finish? Absolutely. Tama, Yamaha, and Pearl are all exquisitely manufactured kits. But they won't give me the sound I want. Closest was the Club Custom and it's still a far cry from the Ludwig. Plus, what's up with those weird sizes? :P
Last edited by Cuttlefish; 07-06-2013 at 12:33 AM.
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You actually got me thinking about something, Les. The difference between perfection and tolerance.
What I mean is that a kit could be as near to perfect as possible in implementation and still come up short either in design or aesthetics. Or perhaps the design is near perfect and the implementation sucks. Or the kit just "looks" terrible.
Now I think we can toss out aesthetics because it won't affect the sound of the drum. May not look great but for me sound is paramount. So then we are left with implementation and design.
If the design is bad then arguably implementation is a moot issue since the design will yield a negative result no matter what. If the design is sound, then implementation is fairly critical to the success of the design in its intended application. I say "fairly" because some items are more critical than others as far as drums go.
The bearing edge is the foundation for the whole thing. Muck that up and it's over. Same would go for shell integrity (ply separation, etc). After that, it's a game of degrees. How much a given flaw will affect the sound of the drum and the durability of the hardware.
I think lug splay would be near the bottom of significant flaws on both counts. Yea, it's awkward looking but apparently harmless.
I see what you're saying regarding QC and I totally agree. If there was another kit that offered THAT sound with Yamaha-style QC then that would be the obvious choice. And perhaps I could pay more from a boutique and get perfection. But then, I'd be paying significantly more money to avoid what is essentially an aesthetic concern.
$2000 is alot of money to plunk down on a kit...but ya know it's not even close to the top end of what you could pay for a drum kit. Now, if we were talking 8-10k for a Crav, then yes it needs to be perfect...no ifs, ands, or buts about it. But that's a whole other consideration. The guys who can afford Cravs AND don't mind parting with that much cash for a drum kit are gonna be the same guys that demand perfection in nearly everything they want. That's just my observation. The rest of us working poor have to balance out the pros and cons on a lesser kit :-)
Ludwig does need to address the lug splay issue because at the end of the day it does reflect on their QC as a whole. But at the same time, people are still buying those kits. I wonder how many were returned because of lug splay? Probably not enough to get Ludwig's attention. And that speaks volumes about it's significance to most drummers in my eyes.
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For what it's worth, my 2011 Classic Maples with glass glitter finish show no lug splay.
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I just took a close look at my 68 Keystone toms and there is almost no lug splay that my eyes can detect.
My 2012 Club Date Asian built toms and snare also have almost 0 splay.
Only my modern Monroe built Black Beauty snare has noticeable splay.
I still consider it a non issue.
I kind of like old drums:)
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Now I think we can toss out aesthetics because it won't affect the sound of the drum. May not look great but for me sound is paramount. So then we are left with implementation and design.
The average Joe audience member won't know the difference between a good sounding kit and a kit that doesn't sound 'as' good, there's only one kit onstage (99% of the time) and sound is so subjective, but they'll see lug splay (if they notice it) as a design flaw, it doesn't look right, things should be straight in the age of CAD and NAFTA.
So aesthetics do play a big part of the whole picture, even if subconsciously. If I like a kits looks it sways me 90%, I can make it (any (decent) kit) sound pleasing enough to my ears. Im not supporting anything new that's not made well, tension rods splayed, wacked out, there's no reason for it in this day and age.
Ludwig does need to address the lug splay issue because at the end of the day it does reflect on their QC as a whole.
Ya think?
I wonder how many (kits) were returned because of lug splay?
... or how many didn't buy kits b/c of the design flaw? Me! Score-1 for not buying b/c of poor design aesthetic. Hmmmmm, bet they'd like to know those numbers.
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Considering how long these splay debates have been going on I'm surprised no one has really done any work to find the cause. It seems like if it was a change in shell or hoop size, or a difference in new vs. old lug casings someone would have pulled out a ruler by now and found the reason.
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IDDrummer.. Have you ever seen a Modern Ludwig Toms/Kick with splay ??
hmmmmm ,.........
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Bermuda? Any news on the official position Ludwig has on this?
Seems to me they dont see it as an issue as much as some do or they would change it. Its obvious to all but maybe only perceived as a problem to those who havent heard their explanation. It could be part of their "design" instead of a mistake as many seem to think.
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I can sort of see it on this modern kit.. Ludwig Classic Maple
... so.. maybe it is all across the board..
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I have noticed splay on Ludwig drums in the past during close inspection such as replacing heads; But, until I saw this thread I never gave it much thought.
Dang you guys! Now you have me looking for splay in every drum that I see :(
I hate you all :)
I kind of like old drums:)
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I kind of like old drums:)
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It's plain & simple. It's a quality control issue. Probably due to either worn tooling, or lax tolerances, or both. Ludwig know it's there, but hey, why should they do anything about it. Players suck it up, & the affected drums still sell.
Facts: very slight lug splay can occur on any drum. There's enough wiggle room in the tension screw holes in most hoops to allow a degree of drift. Additionally, many modern pressed hoops have a significant draft angle, so encourage the screws to drift to the outer extreme of the hole. Such levels of splay have no adverse affect on the drum.
Significant splay however does have a negative affect on the drum. Ok, it's more noticeable with tube lugs, but even with insert lugs, it presents uneven & undesirable strains on the shell. Shells are designed to take axial & compressive forces, not tangental forces. Such forces harm shell resonance at best. At worst, they can warp the shell, especially under uneven tension conditions. Thankfully for Ludwig, it appears that most of the drums with splay are metal snares, that are more resilient to permanent deformation.
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You gotta look close people, you may not see it, lug splay... or maybe don't look close if you're considering buying.
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I actually think the splay adds visual appeal to the snare's. Kind of a, "crown" look :)
I kind of like old drums:)
Last edited by bobdadruma; 07-06-2013 at 03:57 PM.
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Anyway, back to some semblance of seriousness...
I was over at Donn Bennett's a few months ago, and as we had just had this conversation about lug splay, I was going around checking the Ludwig snares they had in the store. To be sure, newer snares had the most obvious splay, but out of five or six used snares (I want to say three of which had B/O badges), two had noticeable splay as well.
In my mind, it's just something I check for when I'm buying a snare, no matter who makes it. There's certain manufacturers and certain lugs for whom it seems to be more of an issue.
Does it affect tuning, sound or whatever? It would take much more perceptive folks than me to determine that. What I do know, is that if I'm plunking down four to six benjamins (or more) on a snare drum, I would expect the little engineering touches such as making sure the tension rods were parallel with the shell to be spot on. I would expect lug splay in a $75 snare drum, not a $1300 limited-run snare.
Given Ludwig's recent history and where, for example, their hardware has been compared to what it is as of the past two years, I have hope that the hue and cry will be acknowledged and the engineers will address the issue, even if it's a simple fix like changing the rims. I don't think the gasket fix is a good one; I don't think I want a bunch of rubber all over the shell (not that a snare's shell is that free to vibrate even in the best of cases).
I don't think I'll buy a brand-new Supra any time soon, and even the vintage ones will have a very good inspection prior to me shelling out the dough. But I do still want a Supra. It's still the best snare in recording history.
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OK, so lets analyze the cause of the splay with factual evidence.
As I see it there are two things that can cause splay.
1) The outside diameter of the drum shell
2) The height of the lug casing from the shell.
Is that true?
This is based on the fact that hoops are standardized and changing the hoop to one that is made by another manufacturer doesn't affect the splay on metal ludwig snare drums.
Is that true?
Ludwig makes several types of metal shell snare drums and splay is seen on each type of metal shell.
Is that true?
Ludwig snare drums that show splay come with three types of lugs, and splay is seen with all three lug types. (tube, bow tie, imperial)
Is that true?
In what manufacturing year did splay begin to occur?
Lets answer the above questions to find the true cause of the splay.
If the answer is that undersized drum shells are the cause of splay then is it a deliberate design by Ludwig to ensure that the rim of the head doesn't make contact with the drum shell?
Ludwig makes drums with standard hoops and standard dimension lugs so changing the O.D. of the shell is the simple option to achieve this.
I kind of like old drums:)
Last edited by bobdadruma; 07-06-2013 at 05:31 PM.
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If you check out their snare drums with die cast hoops you'll notice that everything lines up perfectly. I have two Ludwig snares, both with die cast hoops (one of them using Yamaha die cast aluminum hoops) and there is no tension rod splay. NONE.
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Re: Ludwig Lug Splay Solution
Someone should just axe LUDWIG directly, see if they're even aware, if they even care.
Either the shell is undersized, or the lugs are undersized, which ever way they want to deal with it.
Their molds could have shrunk due to wear, aren't they using the same molds they used back in the covered wagon days?
No way, that word 'maybe' could be used to describe their approach to 'not' dealing with the problem.
I noticed this as well which leads me to think it's more the new triple-flanged hoops than the diameter of the shell as the cause. I would think an undersized shell would cause some degree of splay no matter what hoops you used...unless the holes on a standard die-cast hoop don't project as much as the holes on a standard triple-flanged hoop. I don't know this for sure because I've never measured it.
The SUPRA shells are deep drawn aluminum, hence the one piece, maybe the plugs they draw them over have worn down, or were too small to begin with, they don't want to mess with the original diameter, even if it might never have been correct.
Re: Ludwig Lug Splay Solution
Yeah, this about the 5th (or so) Lug Splay thread.... I never heard, or thought about it until Les brought it up years ago when I joined in '08.
Regardless what someone's "tolerance" of "splay" may or may not be, LUDWIG is owned by a larger entity, that until a few short years ago, practically put nothing into the company.
Good enough reason for many people to say " 'eh, they kinda blow, whatever".
The people WORKING at Ludwig may have wanted to change some things, but the bottom line is the higher ups wouldn't do it (not really cool for us, but people weren't buying either).
Things have changed in the last few years, and are still changing. Having talked to a few Ludwig people, Kevin Packard for one, I can say they are striving and working to put out the best product possible, with very high quality standards.
All well and good some will say, but, I'm as picky as anyone else is, and I haven't had any of the issues others have had, so I still give them my business.
Ludwig drums sound like what I want drums to sound like.
No other drums have given me the same satisfaction in sound,playability, feel etc... and like most here, I've played just about everything. You have the kits that cost an arm and both legs, but not a ton of people are buying them. Those companies, say like Craviattio, have the luxury of starting from scratch, with nothing that's been used for years, and then something in the process changes, which may incur lug splay or whatever.
earl and Yamaha will come out with a new line and change the lugs to go along with the shells. Ludwig hasn't done that really until the Keystone's and some people had an issue with it. So how do you win?
My Mach lug Maple drums (going back to '90,up till 'early '12) don't have the splay. My '07-'10 CM's are all straight. I had a couple special sized drums made, using Ludwig hardware, and they are all straight too.
My Hammered 402 will get a little on a a couple lugs, and that's really the only one-ad it's also not that much unless I take off the head for some reason, and re-put it on (it's never going back to the same spot where the rods were straight. The '09 402 I sold was actually pretty straight,
One lug somewhere on the bottom of the BB snares might not be perfect, but everything else is pretty dang straight. My CM snare with the bow tie lugs is perfect all the way around. That one is from '09 I think.
The new Acro Classic is really straight--almost exactly perfect all the way around.
My band Artificial Agent here: http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116637
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