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Aaah, just wanted to tell you all I have Skyrim now and after playing it for some hours, im loving it, like I always loved the elder scrolls series, since I started with part 2 - Daggerfall.
Then I come to my question.....why pay per month for a totally broken game, when you can pay 50 euros and play a fantastic game and dont have to pay 9,99 a month. Well.....waiting to see what you all have to say about it.
I know, this might be comparing apples with pears, but Skyrim is an awesome RPG, even if you play it solo, you do have minions, your own home, etc.
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Well the basis of playing a mmorpg for me is social interaction some need it some dont .If you dont mind being a loner in a world then single player rpg's are for you .
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Originally posted by micona
Well you wouldn't be applying your social interaction with this game now.......or would you O.o? Heck I wouldn't!
If anything you would get more social interaction with skyrims npc.....HA yeeeeah boy its that good :P
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Originally posted by jungleninja
I'm playing single player games right now, until an mmorpg comes along that it worth my 15 bucks a month.
Oh yeah you got that right baby! Skyrim rocks! Im playing my fingers numb with that game! lol! This game is dead gone and there are only like 5 people on 3 servers, so get your interaction! lol! They dont even respond because they dont all speak english!
So, hehehe, this game is dead and with TOR coming soon, they will roll over and play dead again! ...oh back to skyrim for me....I guess the officials from g&h are also playing Skyrim as they certainly dont play their owm game, but then the game is almost unplayable! lol!
Originally posted by Jimmac
-Sadly, I too am done ith MMO's for the forseeable future.
It used to be that playing MMOs was MUCH cheaper and far more fun. For $15/month I was able to "live" in a virtual world for countless hours. Compared to $40- $50 on single player games which I would generally beat and be finished with a week or two later- It was a bargain.
In the last 8 or so years however, I am finding myself taking the opposite stance. Now, I am lucky if an MMO can hold my attention for a few days. Too many "unfinished games" are being released, along with reskinned WOW clones and essentially "single player" online games calling themselves MMORPG's... There is no longer a "world" just a linear story line and quest grind where everyone essentially has the SAME experience from start to endgame.
I have purchased nearly every MMO made in the last 3 years and have felt ripped off on nearly every purchase. Games like RIFT which were well done and not a "rip off" were essentially just a redone WOW with a diffrent name- Any game trying to do something unique and diffrent was unfinished, buggy, not worth the sub.
I have been heading back to the wiorld of "single player" games- If am going to play a linear story anyways where everyone gets to be the "winner" , the single player experience is much better.
I am still keeping tabs on the MMO world but honestly, its changed into a cash grab where games are being "churned out" to make a buck nd have no staying power.
That is what is so dissapointing about G and H. They released this game in an abysmal state, broken and buggy and unfinshed- Then do not even bother getting it up to release quality after THIS LONG. Another rip off... Had they waited a year and took some care into making a ""game" (and not just making some money) this could have been good and WOULD have made money- But by releasing garbage, they make no money the game sucks and another one bites the dust...
Yep, your right there. Ive played many mmo's the past few years and must say, truly, we paying customers are being ripped off. Instead of paying 50 buck, we are paying 300 in two years and still not getting a full game! Then I'd rather pay 50 euros for a finished singleplayer game, than 300 for a still unfinished game, all the frustration, all the waiting and the waste of my time and money!
Listen to HI's live chat. They even make fun and mock about not being able to release on time and thus mock the paying customers! They must think way to much of themselves!
Hey, I tell you all this, with Guild Wars 2 on the horizon, alot of mmo's are gonna eat dust! How can they compete against a one time payment model like that! Ok, it might not be the best of the best out there mmo wise, but hey....you have multiplayer and alot of adventure and above all....a finished game for a one time price!
How is it actually coming with the new 'stuff' HI? Havent heard from you guys in ages! Danicia at least had the decency to leave a message or two once in awhile. Mr. Metz, I do understand you have to get used to your new chores, but...comeon, a message a day is typed in two mins top. And alot of happy customers then! Thats worth something isnt it? But then I dont believe you guys are still fixing the game! Truly, prove me wrong!
Originally posted by jungleninja
I did- And the "dev chat" was pretty sickening... The devs laughed and joked around about not being finished with anything while drinking beer- And people shelled out $$$ for lifetime subs. Was very, very disgusting. I do not think they realized what a slap in the face to their paying custoimers that "dev chat was"- But if I had been subscribing or had bought a lifetimg (I am not and I did not) I would have been pissed- But fortunatly I have learned my lesson with MMO devs and will not buy anything until I can "test drive" it first ... Its been almost a year since I have purchased an MMO and do not see myself buying one in the near future either.
Have not tryed Skyrim yet but I am still having fun with a heavily modded morrowind and Oblivion. Am having a blast playing some old PS3 games I have never playedbefore (picking them up for like $5/each) such as Godfather 2, Fallout NV and Midnight Club LA which I just bought this weekend @ all three games for $20.
Hopefully the MMO market crashes soon and developers rethink the entire buisness model (and I do NOT mean F2P)- I , and others would gladly pay a higher sub fee for a FINISHED game that is a "world" and not a quest grind/race to endgame/everyone wins game like we have today.
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I don't see how you are against F2P model and the topic of MMO's not being worth a sub you still agree with. Most F2P games cost more to play than P2P, but that is the choice of the publisher on how to implement the model and not the models fault. Games such as LoL have proven very profitable while being honestly 100% F2P if one doesn't wish to buy any skins for their champions. There is no gameplay limitations for not paying other than having default skins on your champions bought with ingame currency. F2P or B2P MMO's are best IMO when done correctly they can often be more succesful than P2P MMO's because of the same reason WoW exploded, accessibility.
As for your annoyance with MMO's content or being "finished" compared to console games, you mentioned you bought 3 games in the past month? while they cost less that is 3 games made by 3 different teams over the course of several years and how many of them do you think you will be playing in 3months time? MMO's are given a bad rep for lack of content but in reality they are indeed massive in scale compared to standard single player games because of the scope of their exspected lifetime. Enough fun for a month doesn't work to make an MMO successful but it is enough to make a single player game and some consoles games as little as a week maybe.
Be fair with your judgement at least and I'll end with saying I'm not happy with the current MMO's or how the industry is shaping up but I know even given all the resources I wanted that I couldn't make an MMO that is "The One". The solution to the MMO problem isn't an easy fix or someone would have done it already.
Originally posted by Clocksimus
I have to disagree- The MMO market is stuck on a "formula" that they will not deviate from- Companys which DO deviate from the formula release unfinished garbage (I am not talking about minor things which can be patched in- but whole features)
My point was, I bought 3 games for $20 (these are not the only games I bought in the last month) which is close to what I would pay in a sub fee- I probably will not be playing them in 3 months, but if I spend $20/month (close to an MMO sub) I am getting 3 games a month which WILL hold my attention... What am I getting for my $15/month in todays MMO market? In a game like Gand H (the game we are discussing) I would have paid out like $50 for the game and $50 in sub fees for 5 months- In 5 months (since release) nothing new has been added, they are stil missing a class which was supposed to release (I think), content ends at level 30 (I can get to level 16 in a 3 day free trial), no crafting, no AH, etc. etc.... So what am I getting for $15/month except for another thing to pay for???
Why I hate F2p is another issue entirly- It essentially breaks down to the fact that I want an evenn playing fireld in all things (even vanity items) and will not be nickle and dimed into paying for everything one at a time. A F2P model like LOTRO is fine as it gives me the option to have ALL content if I pay a sub (I dont consider this F2P, more like lifetime trial unless subbed)- Unfortunatly I think LOTRO is pretty boring...
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Originally posted by TOWROK
I have to agree with that haha! , the way mmorpg's are played now some of them are singleplayermmorpg's yeah skyrim is pretty amazing
Well, due to the lack of communication and the lack of updates, I guess its fine to say the game officially is no longer supported by the officials. Or.....Mr. Metz, will we get a suprise update soon? I mean, the 3 guys still working on the game. As Mr. Metz still has to get used to his chores. Heheheh, I mean, comeon man, how long does it take to write a few lines? Hahahaha! First plug in the powerline, then turn on your pc, then goto whatever your account on the forum and type a few words! Hehehe! Have fun you all!
Gotta, go back to Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Lord of the Rings Online, Rift, Age of Conan, Age of Empires Online, aaaaah, so many games to choose from! lol! ;)
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Let go of my ears, I know what I'm doing!
Awesome or not, to me it literally means the world.
There's the old saying: "If a tree falls down in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Whether it does or doesn't, it doesn't matter. And if you accomplish great things in a srpg, it doesn't matter to anyone else.
And that's the difference between Skyrim and an MMO. If I'm the only one who even observes what's going on in the game, it means much less to me. I still enjoy srpg's, but accomplishments and events are much less meaningful to me than in an MMO.
For those reasons I tend to have some sympathy for folks that want a sandbox MMO; that want their actions to have more of an effect on the world around them than most themeparks offer. Thing is, I also understand why those impacts have to be minimized to an extent, and can never come close to the world changing effect a player can have on an SRPG.
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Originally posted by jungleninja
To be completely honest, any amount of time someone from Heatwave spends responding to your repetitive taunting posts is time not spent working on the game.
Like you, I paid for the game, played for a month, and found it severely lacking. However, I gave my opinion with some constructive feedback and moved on.
I don't expect this game to survive, but at this point, I expect you to be here repeating your same unhelpful criticisms ten years after it shuts down.
Originally posted by Fredelas
Yep, your right about that! Hahahah! Oh comeon man, let me have my fun! Hehehe! *Hears a yell from afar and shouts back* Shut up Ma! Im having a conversation here! ;)
I dont mind them not responding to my posts, its the posts from those that really ask questions, that dont get answered, thats what makes me feel bad for them! Thats why I respond like this. If they would just give info on whatever they are doing, it would make me stop.......wait....nah, that wouldnt do it I guess! Heheheh! ;)


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We did a little science experiment in our yard, unexpectedly, thanks to the laws of nature and survival of the fittest a while back that we came across last week.
A little background:
About a year ago, our aging dog managed to kill a rabbit and eat about half of it before my husband called her off it.
He brought her in the house, where she promptly threw up, right in front of the fridge and my daughter.
As she stood over the steaming pile of blood, bone and guts exclaiming "eeeww" repeatedly, my husband swore, then cleaned up the mess and buried the remains (including the part the dog didn't eat that was still in the back yard) in a plastic grocery bag behind our shed. He marked the spot so we would know where it was.
Fast-forward a year.
While digging a new compost area last week, he dug up the bag that had contained the remains of the rabbit. Guess what?
The rabbit was gone, completely decomposed and turned to dust.
And the bag?
Completely intact. And I mean completely intact. It had decayed not one little bit.
So please, ponder that the next time you're in the grocery store or anywhere else they are likely to give you a plastic bag. That bag, which took chemicals to create, will be around for a very, very long time.
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HUNTINGTON -- School officials say the recent practice of saying a prayer over the public address system at Central City Elementary School will stop, after a parent complained that it was inappropriate.
Jacqueline Webb, whose two children attend the school, voiced her complaint to Principal Patrick O'Neal the Monday following the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., the same morning she first heard the group prayer.
"It was Dec. 17, the Monday after the Sandy Hook shooting, and the kids were late that morning so I took them into the office to get slips and get to class and while I was standing there, the principal went through the pledge and announcements and then introduced a staff member who prayed in Jesus' name," Webb said.
Webb said she believes matters of a religious nature should be kept inside the family.
"It made me uncomfortable, so I went home and thought about it and I called and talked to the principal and secretary, who both apologized to me and told me it was a one-time occasion in response to Sandy Hook because everybody needed reassurance and comfort."
Webb said she was willing to let the situation drop until Thursday morning. She said she, upon dropping her children off, heard O'Neal lead students in another prayer via the PA system, in which he called for "protection and help to get us through our day," ending with "In Jesus' name, Amen."
"I was furious. I was sitting there thinking that I know of at least one other family there, a Catholic family, who doesn't pray the same way. There have got to be Jewish families in that school who don't pray that way. And, I was furious that I'd been lied to the first time about it being a one-time-only thing for Sandy Hook," Webb said. "Here we are, one month later and I'm wondering if they've been doing it every morning. This is why we have separation of church and state -- because you cannot be fair to everybody."
Jedd Flowers, director of communications for Cabell County schools, said he learned of the situation Thursday morning after Webb called the school's board office.
"The principal has been informed it is not appropriate to lead prayer at school and I have every confidence it will not happen again," Flowers said. "I think it came from the heart, but that still doesn't make it allowable."
O'Neal apologized Thursday afternoon and said it was not his intention to offend anybody.
"With the way society is now, with everything going on, I felt the need for something extra for us to provide protection for our school. It was really just a generic prayer of protection," O'Neal said. "But, we'll cease from saying the prayer. It won't happen again."
Webb said she wanted attention on the issue she described as "crossing the line."
"I understand studying religious topics in school. Doing it in an academic context is not a problem. Doing it as a practice in the morning is crossing the line," she said. "I'm not interested in going to war with anybody or getting anybody in major trouble or fired. I just want it stopped."
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More than 90 veterans and active duty military personnel were guests at the Huntington CSX Transportation Locomotive Shop on Thursday, Nov 7.
Rep. Shelley Moore Capito was the guest speaker. Cabell County Sheriff Tom McComas represented local law enforcement and shared the benediction at the end of the celebration. T-Anne See sang the National Anthem and "God Bless America." The Junior ROTC Color Guard from Huntington High School presented colors, and representatives from VFW Post 9097 shared the proper way to fold and display the American Flag.
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Have you ever received that phone call at the last minute letting you know that 10 people are coming over tonight for dinner? You immediately start worrying that you wont have enough food to feed everyone.
You probably also want to pull your spouse aside and ask them exactly how they thought inviting 10 people to your house for dinner tonight without speaking to you first seemed like a good idea, but thats another conversation for another day.
At the SPCA Albrecht Center for Animal Welfare, weve got lots of mouths to feed.
Some days we have as many as 200 dogs and cats looking to us to provide them with breakfast and dinner each day. As you can imagine, thats a lot of kibble to have on hand at any one time.
We sometimes get to cook for goats, horses, rabbits, guinea pigs, birds, iguanas, ferrets and pot bellied pigs.
Our kennel staff chefs are responsible for preparing specialized meals for all of these animals and boy can they eat!
We are very fortunate that many people and businesses help to provide the groceries needed to feed all of our guests. Our dogs eat mainly Pedigree dog food, while our cats enjoy Whiskas brand cat food.
In the past, large pet food manufacturers donated food to shelters like the SPCA and the Aiken County Animal Shelter, but that program stopped well over a year ago.
Now, both organizations rely heavily on local animal lovers to donated dry and canned dog and cat food to both shelters, so they dont have to tap into their tight budgets and buy it themselves.
Local schools, churches and civic organizations also have pet food drives for us that bring in a lot of canned food, treats and toys the animals truly enjoy.
Other people are great about driving big bags of cat and dog food up to our shelter, along with donations of blankets, towels and cleaning supplies. All of this is tax deductible and greatly appreciated.
If coming to the shelter is too far or if you are afraid youll adopt every cat in the lobby, you can drop your donations off at our downtown Aiken Treasure Chest at 404 Richland Ave. E. or at our North Augusta or Edgefield locations.
If your business, school, civic group or church would like to host a pet food drive to help us keep our 200 hungry mouths fed, give us a call at 648-6863. Even better, if youd like to adopt one of our great animals to give us one less mouth to feed, come on down or visit us online at www.spca-albrecht.org or stop by the Aiken County shelter at 411 Wire Road or give them a call at 642-1537 to inquire about their food needs and animals they have up for adoption.
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At 6 p.m., well have a program with free admission where we will display a slide show of all the pets honored or memorialized this year, with some nice music and snacks and good fellowship with fellow animal lovers. For more information about this event, please contact us at 648-6863 or email firstname.lastname@example.com.
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Working, writing and speaking in the "working women" space for too long can make you a little bit crazy.
Don't act like a man but talk like one. Negotiate but pretend you're bargaining on behalf of your organization rather than yourself.
Self-promote. And if that runs against your grain, take a class that will help you change.
But be authentic. Everyone will know if you're trying to be someone you're not.
Carry yourself with authority but beware of gender blow back. Have "executive presence" but don't swear like the guys do and for heavens' sake don't flirt unless, of course, you've read the research telling you that flirtatious women negotiate better deals.
It's exhausting, isn't it?
Recently, we were told that a study of the language used on Twitter shows that young women as a group use more novel and edgy slang (create more new language) on Twitter than men and that, unsurprisingly, they use more !!!???!!! and emoticons than men do. And that's presented as a good thing.
Women, it seems, invent language. And she who names a thing controls its future. Think framing. Think spin. Think pro-life and enhanced interrogation techniques and the The Patriot Act.
Right on the heels of the article about women creating language on Twitter, came yet another injunction for women to stop acting like women in the workplace.
We do this !!!???!!! and this :-) in email.
And that's a bad thing because it's UNPROFESSIONAL because it's emotional and professional is not emotional unless, of course, you're a guy, in which case you can be angry (emotional) all day long.
You just can't be sad (tears) because that's a woman's emotion and there's no place for women's emotions in the professions.
Had Enough?
Me too.
What if everyone simultaneously decided that there was nothing wrong with women acting like women in the workplace?
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Robert P. Imbelli November 23, 2013 - 7:30am
The now infamous "Interview" of Pope Francis with the self-avowed atheist, Eugenio Scalfari, was recently removed from the "Francis" page of the Vatican website where it had been placed under the rather curious designation, "Speeches."
Since its original publication in La Repubblica, the Italian daily which Scalfari founded, it has come to light that the session with the Pope had neither been recorded, nor had notes been taken at the time. The exchange was reconstructed by the eighty-nine year old Scalfari after the fact.
Now, in a true interview with foreign journalists working in Italy, things become curiouser and curiouser. Scalfari says that he told the Pope when he sent his version of the exchange for permission to publish it:
Keep in mind that I did not include some of the things that you said to me. And that some of the things that I attribute to you you did not say. But I put them there so that the reader may understand who you are.
Despite this friendly warning, he received the "ok" to publish his version. But Scalfari goes on to admit to the reporters he was addressing:
I am perfectly willing to think that some of the things that I wrote and attributed to him are not shared by the pope, but I also believe that he maintains that, said by a nonbeliever, they are important for him and for the activity he is carrying out.
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Perfectly willing, huh? How obliging.
I'd think that anything in that interview, at the very least, should be taken with a huge grain of salt. That the Holy Father approved the content suggests that the interview story in its entirety isn't thoroughly discredited, but it seems to fall somewhat short of thorough credibility.
Next Friday, when Francis' first solo run at an encyclical, Spe Salvi, appears, it will be interesting to see how Chiesa and company approach it. The techniques they have been practicing on "soft interviews" and spontaneous Papal comments presumably won't work on an Encyclical. And they will have to think very carefully about the future implications of any line of approach they choose to the reception of future Encuclicals, by Francis or anyone else.
Sorry, in that last line above, Encyclicals of course.
is this that to which you meant to refer?:
With his apostolic exhortation "Evangelii Gaudium" (The Joy of the Gospel), which the Vatican has scheduled for publication Tuesday, Pope Francis finally makes his real debut as papal author.
Spe Salvi is a wonderful encyclical written by Pope Benedict XVI.
Thanks, Fr. Imbelli and Charles Ryder. Write in haste, repent at leisure!
Still, given the difference between the formal, official document and casual communications such as off -the- cuff homilies, remarks to journalists, etc. It should be interesting to see how the next Encyclical will be received .
Having appreciated the Pope's sermons to the young people at World Youth Day in Rio, I very much look forward to Evangelii Gaudium.
And I agree with Charles that Spe Salvi is indeed "a wonderful encyclical!"
I am surprised that so many people, including you, Fr. Imbelli, are so huffy about the Scalfari "interview." Was it really "infamous"? Golly, no. It didn't seem to bother Pope Francis, so why should it bother everyone else unless he really needs to be protected from his own naivete. I mean, if you think he is too simple minded to be pope, say so.
Now let it be said that making up things the pope didn't say so people can "understand him better" is a far cry from conventional standards of journalism in this country. It doesn't seem so odd for Europe, where Rupert Murdoch reigns as the ethics-setter (what's that buzz on my phone?). It probably won't seem odd much longer in the United States since our media are relying on cheap, young Brits brought up on Murdoch to cover stories that American media used to assign to Americans. And for that matter, Rupe has enough American media now to claim to reign as our ethics czar. We call that market capitalism. But that is a gripe of a whole different color.
Mr Blackburn, I am relieved at your concession:
Now let it be said that making up things the pope didn't say so people can
"understand him better" is a far cry from conventional standards of
journalism in this country.
I believe it's also known as deceit.
I presume that Signor Scalfari has not been consulted for Evangelii Gaudium.
Just yesterday I was sorely tempted to teach history, not as it is, but as it should have been.
I very much wanted to teach that Joan of Arc was the patron saint of the Résistance in France during WWII. That would have been a pure figment of my imagination (as far as I know), but it felt right. Had I yielded to that temptation, with luck the story might have gone viral and later become accepted as a little known historical fact. It would have helped correct the image that people have of her. Wouldn't it be just a little fib for the sake of a larger truth? Claiming something that didnt happen so that my students could "understand her better"?
In the end I compromised and said that she was "popular" in the Résistance in France during WWII. I don't have any evidence for that either, but surely it has to have been true at least among some people...
Deceit? What a quaint term In Washington it's known as "spin."
The various interviews with the pope have been unimpressive: America's Freudian slap at women, Commonweal's lame attempt at humor, Scalfari's fiction.
It will be interesting to see if the forthcoming "exhortation" will be more trusting of its intended readership.
'...a far cry from conventional standards of journalism in this country."
I can't see how this can be improved, except perhaps swapping out "country" for "universe." I'm sure any reputable publication that favorably quoted this guy's fabrications will be anxious to make amends.
"The now infamous...". Really? It is now infamous because of whose opinion? We do agree the only indisputable absolute is God, right? The rest is opinion, right?
"...the eighty-nine year old Scalfari...'. Yikes! I do wonder how it came to be we actually valued the lives and opinions of those who a certain revered bit of writing claims to lived 120 years and another quite literally 950 years. Well, some folks are now more than a little obsessed with youth so I guess the comment's clear drift from historical usefulness makes sense.
Deceit? My goodness, what was the story about glass houses?
Tom Blackburn
Thank you for pointing out the much ado about nothing in the coverage of this Scalfari interview. Why is the right so obsessed with it? The one with the Jesuits says so much more and has yet to be deconstructed. Doing away with Scalfari accomplishes nothing. What is curiouser and curiouser is the right's obsession with him.
Dear MightBe,
"We do agree the only indisputable absolute is God, right?" Right!
"The rest is opinion, right?" Wrong!
As for houses of glass, I would say deceit is deceit, whether perpetrated by Murdoch or Scalfari, whether by a cover-up or a false accusation.
Professor Mitchell,
"Much ado about nothing?" I fear now you are being "un po ingenuo."
Had the subsequent revelations about the Scalfari "interview" not come to light, the words "of the Pope" would have been bruited about to no end or, rather, to the end of those whose interest would be served. One of the strengths of the conversation with Father Spadaro is that we trust that he has conveyed the "ipsissima verba Francisci," and not a fabrication thereof.
As for "the right's obsession" – all Contributors here are card-carrying Commonweal Catholics.
Scalfari should have recorded the interview and transcribed it. Short of that, he should have informed readers about the nature of the piece. But the pope approved the text, so calling it deceitful seems, well, pretty nasty. What was the point of noting his age, by the way?
Speaking of wonderful encyclicals, since that suggests the existence of not-so-wonderful encyclicals, how about a blog post on "Encyclical lowlights"? That would be a fitting sequel to "Papal lowlights".
I am a Commonweal subscriber but not an intellectual and often barely a thinker. Pope Francis' deeds and words, as conveyed by the press, put a spring in my step and hope in my heart. It seemed to me that he had eluded his handlers and taken it to the street (and Scalfari). The official backtracking from that interview awakened my rhinencephalon with a whiff of the appointment of Greg Burke, formerly Fox's Rome correspondent, as Vatican media wrangler in June 2012. As the appointment occurred shortly after the leaks and other embarrassments, I assumed that his role was to suppress news. As this blog is discussing the Scalfari phenomenon MailOnline is heralding Greg Burk as "The PR genius who helped make the Pope popular: Francis's marketing mastermind" I was hoping that he was a vestige of Pope Benedict's tenure and would quietly return to journalism. It was my hope that Pope Francis was a brilliant and compassionate priest of mature years with nothing to lose moved by the Holy Spirit to turn our gaze to Christ's teachings, pure and simple. It would be a great disappointment to learn that he has been branded, puffed and painted to increase enrollment.
Christina, just a note -- the Mail article is a ripoff/rewrite (British journalistic standard can be even lower than Italian standards, believe it or not) of a Vice magazine (unfortunately named!) article on Greg Burke.
And as someone quoted in the Vice piece, I should be consistent and come to Greg's defense -- or, rather the defense of Pope Francis, who does not seem to be someone who is easily manipulated. I think Greg was a very smart hire, and I hope he can help bring some organization to the Vatican communications machine, such as it is.
This is not about controlling the message or the pope -- Greg was hired well before Francis became pope, and the place was still a mess. All of a sudden Francis was elected and Greg fixed everything?! No, I don't think that's how it worked. The messenger and the message changed. I think the Vatican communications people were as surprised as anyone, and as much as anything need to get out of the way rather than controlling.
But the bureaucracy will try to "tame" Francis. That's the way it works in every system, liberal or conservative. Staying free and in contact with the outside world will be a constant challenge for the pope. Let's hope he succeeds.
Bob Imbelli -- As far as being a "card-carrying Commonweal Catholic," I think it should be pointed out that Commonweal Catholicism is not like Soviet Communism, and that contributors and subscribers have a range of views. Just as the term should not be used to disparage an entire group of Catholics, not should it be used as a shield against criticism of one's own views.
I personally find it almost comical the way Magister and others of the Old Guard are scrambling to try and seize on anything to try to reinterpret Francis as in fact amenable to their old ways and as pointing to an inevitable disappointment to the vast majority of Catholics and others who see Francis as a fresh presentation of the Gospel.
But I too am a contributor here, and we obviously have different views in this regard.
Father Imbelli is a voice of reason, rationality and respectfulness. I appreciate his contributions to Commonweal.
Dave Gibson,
what is truly amusing are the pirouettes being performed to ignore or make light of Scalfari's astonishing claim: "I am perfectly willing to think that some of the things I wrote and attributed to him are not shared by the Pope." "Sono dispostissimo a pensare che alcune delle cose scritte da me e a lui attribuite, il Papa non le condivida."
If you fail to find that shameful, then indeed, we have different views in this regard.
I wouldn't call the Argentine pope's unwillingness to argue with the old man a pirouette. (Maybe a colgada.)
Bob, I was an early and vocal critic of Scalfari's awful journalism. I just don't feel the need to try to use it to advance an agenda. Those are two separate things.
Not as amusing as suggesting the pope stop referring to himself as a Jesuit.
I'm glad we can agree that it was "awful journalism."
A question: when you made your critique, were you aware of his recent admission quoted above?
If not, are you willing now to go beyond "awful" – perhaps to "shameful" and, yes, "deceitful?"
Father Imbelli, how do you explain that pope Francis approved the article before publication? Surely that gives it some weight in spite of the, on its face, astounding admission of not-writing-what-was-said and writing-what-was-not-said.
Good question, Claire.
Bob, I'm not going to play your games, nor would I attempt to induce others into name-calling against others. You are building yourself a glass house.
I can only surmise that the Pope, pressed for time, did not review the article carefully. Whether this was being "un po furbo" or "un po ingenuo" (his words to Father Spadaro about himself) or a combination of the two, I can't say. It is possible (though this too is only surmise) that he now regrets it, hence its removal from the Vatican website.
no further questions.
Alrighty then, Bob.
Deceit. A while back in history the Schwartzs were having their friends the Steins for dinner. A knock at the door. The door is answered by Mr and Ms Schwartz. Standing at the door are two very neatly dressed fellows in tidy uniforms demanding help in their efforts to locate the Steins. They are under strict orders to round up all Steins ASAP. Without hesitation the Schwartzs lie. The deceit works. The Steins lived another day.
Arrogance. Nope. Cannot think of a single scenario when that behavior is remotely acceptable.
Bob, you use words as if you and only you were in connection with God. That ain't so. The most compelling attribute of the fellow who joined Christ on a rather remarkable journey that day on the cross was not his scholarly presentation. It was his humility.
Bob, you use words as if you and only you were in connection with God.
Father Imbelli does no such thing.
I see all the usual suspects are up to all the usual tactics. Apparently trying to advance the cause of good and fair journalism, and maintain the integrity of papal teaching, is now, take your pick:
Advancing an "agenda";
Not the finest hour for Commonweal's editors.
I propose a new journalism award: the Anti-Anti-Scalfari Prize, to be bestowed upon the lefty making the most outrageous assertions about any non-lefty critic of a Scalfari-type interview. Competition will be brisk - we may already have some winners.
Quit your day job.
Fr BOB
You write: "I can only surmise that the Pope, pressed for time, did not review the article carefully." But Scalfari phoned TWO times, two different days explaining to the pope's secretary " that I did not include some of the things that you said to me. And that some of the things that I attribute to you you did not say" Scalfari insisted over this point and the pope said it was OK anyway. So the pope knew the Scalfari approach and he approved it.
I daresay most of us aren't immersed in the canons of Italian journalism, and just because an unsavory commercial practice has a precedent, it doesn't follow that therefore it's ethically acceptable. In my view, I don't think it's going too far - in fact, it's just simple truth - to note that the original Scalfari interview, as published, sans any notice that here were elements of reconstruction or embellishment, misled the world into supposing that the published words actually were those of the Holy Father. I know I was misled.
Of the many fine English adjectives we have to describe such a situation - dishonest, misleading, fraudulent and so on - "deceitful" seems to do the job as well as any other.
That Scalfari later 'fessed up to reconstruction and embellishment is important, but it was quite some time after the initial publication, long after the original "interview" had made its impression on the worldwide readership. Also, it's doubtful that Scalfari's admission received the same blaze of publicity that the original interview did.
That the Holy Father allegedly approved the content prior to publication also seems important - although, as Fr. Imbelli notes, in that case it also seems important that the piece now has been pulled from the Vatican website. And I'm not sure that the papal approval materially alters the ethical analysis. We were bamboozled.
As I said I was merely offering a surmise. But, as you have followed the pre-publication exchange, you know that it was uniquely with Monsignor Xuereb, the Pope's secretary. As I read their exchange, Scalfari had not heard back about the letter and the text he sent, so he called Xuereb. Xuereb said the Pope gave the "ok" to publish. Scalfari, to his credit, responded, "but did the Pope read my accompanying letter?" Xuereb said he didn't know, and Scalfari urged him to check again. The Secretary said the Pope was out and would return at 2:00 and he would check with him. At 2:15 Xuereb called and told Scalfari the Pope said: "give him the 'ok' again."
So yes, the Pope said "ok." Did he read it carefully and realize the "liberties" Scalfari had taken?, I don't know. The time-line suggests haste on the Pope's part. It's clear that I do not think it was wise to publish the edited exchange, and I'm glad it was removed from the Vatican website.
The question of Scalfari's journalistic practices and ethics are one thing -- deplorable, to my mind, as I have said from the beginning.
The larger question, the one raised here, is the effort to try to rewrite Francis by undoing this "interview." The reality is that there is very little in the Scalfari interview that the pope has not said elsewhere, in actual recorded interviews, and with greater force and detail.
The panicked Old Guard seems to think that highlighting the unreliability of this interview undermines everything else that Francis has said. That seems to be a hard sell.
Then again, he was speaking off-the-cuff in those interviews and they are not infallible ex-cathedra statements, so even if he did say what he said we can freely ignore it ...
I cannot remember the level of explanation some posters seem to find necessary for Pope Francis ever being applied to Pope John Paul II. He wrote a number of things I gave up reading because I found I was never going to understand what he was talking about. No one but The Wall Street Journal ever bothered to try to explain him to me. I find it insulting to Pope Francis that so many folks think he needs to be explained.
I would hope no one was writing a doctoral disertation or a book of moral theology that depended on direct quotes from the Scalfari interview. If anyone did, I would vote not to award him his degree or would not read her book. Those are the only people, ISTM, who have a dog in the Scalfari fight, and there can't be very many of them.
The pope said in the interview for America and la Civiltà Cattolica that sometimes he trusts people to much
He trusted Scalfari and didn't reread the interview.
I think the same happened for the letter for the Council of Trento anniversary where he praises the hermeneutic of continuity quoting Benedict. This letter is strange, because he uses the pluralis maiestatis, that lately was abandoned even by Benedict, then it contradicts previous statements but also contradicts his acts: only two months ago Francis fired the 4 liturgical consultants , conservative, appointed by B16, and appointed his advisors, followers of Bugnini, the creator of the conciliar Mass, and the bête noire of conservatives.
So I think, he signed a letter that he never read. This is only my take of course.
Isn't it time to close down this thread?
The larger question, the one raised here, is the effort to try to rewrite Francis by undoing this "interview."
I don't think this is the larger question, nor the one raised here. But I do think it will be interesting if the Pope, or perhaps the Papparatchiks, will be more circumspect going forward about the procedures for interviewing the Pope. That would be a good thing, I think, as long as they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Bernard Dauenhauer:
You wrote,
Isn't it time to close down this thread?
With all respect, I strongly disagree. Yes, it's been a bit rough, but that's no reason to shut it down. Light can come from these exchanges. I say, allow time and space for that to happen. What's to be gained by shutting it down? What's to be lost by keeping it open? If some readers don't like the tone or content, they can simply tune out.
Bernard and Gene --
It seems to me you all have hit upon the most painful issue here -- do the faithful have a right and/or a duty to face apparent contradictions which sometimes appear in the teachings coming out of the Vatican? The liberals say Yes, the conservatives seem to say No, just reinterpret what Rome says and hope the problems go away.
ISTM that it's time for each and every one of us to look at our own, individual motives for wanting to consider or to ignore the very real problems of faith and morals and to admit to ourselves that there ARE some problems..
We must ask ourselves: Am I responding through fear that I might have been seriously wrong before, or, worse, that popes themselves have been and are being seriously wrong? And if the answer is Yes, have I been ignoring some real problems, then the question becomes: what attitude ought I to take towards the Pope's inconsistencies? Should the liberals crow "See? See? I was RIGHT!!" ? Should the conservatives cover their ears, shut their eyes and pray that the problems will just go away? Neither response is a good one, I say. Everyone can be wrong. Including popes. To know the Truth, first we must face the truth, like it or not.
Good advice Ann. It would clear the air greatly if the temptation to re-interpret events and public statements from an interested point of view could be seen as the dead-end it is, no matter who is doing it. Still, the fact that an occasion has provoked this sort of response may say something about the difficulty of handling "authoritative" contributions to any conversation on an important topic. How best to get past this sort of roadblock is the question.
These discussions should not be shut down until the disputants simply stop disputing and whatever is said has become repetitive, abusive or borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring.
Yes, boring is in the ears of the listener, but when the listeners stop listening ....
I agree with my friend Gene, and will stipulate that if I believed half the things that liberals think I, as a conservative, believe, I'd hate me too!
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POCATELLO, Idaho - Cal State Northridge track & field opened the 2009 indoor season at the Bengal Shootout at Idaho State and the Matadors came away with 10 individual event wins as the men posted a 3-2 dual meet record while the women went 2-3.
The meet was scored using head-to-head results between all the teams instead of a traditional standings method. The Northridge men earned wins over Montana State-Billings (81-44), Southern Utah (73-58) and Weber State (69-59) and lost to BYU (75-61) and Idaho State (79.5-60.5). The Matador women defeated Montana State-Billings (82-25) and Southern Utah (73-55) and fell to BYU (87-55), Idaho State (79-63) and Weber State (66-63).
Sherrina Lofton won the 60 meters in a career-best time of 7.56 while LaShandra Batiste was ninth in a time of 8.05 and Jackie Harrison was 12th in 8.17. In the 200 meters, Batiste was 11th in a time of 26.39 and also placed sixth in the 60 meter hurdles in a time of 9.21. Shelese Ruffin ran the fastest time in the 400 meter field as she clocked in at 55.75 while Harrison was second in 57.98. Jasmine Cox was fourth in her first collegiate 800 meter race in a time of 2:20.42. The 4x400 relay team of Candyce Babb, Batiste, Desirae Gonder and Harrison posted the fastest time at 3:53.78 while the team of Tanisha Cooper, Cox, Lofton and Ruffin was second in 3:54.79.
In the distance races, Lilyana Morejon finished 11th in the mile (5:16.04) and was second in the 3,000 meters with a time of 10:21.38.
Gonder easily took the women's high jump with a height of 5-8 (1.73) while Megan Hill (10-6.25) and Cristi Allen (9-6.50) finished eighth and ninth in the pole vault. In the throws, Whitney Hooks won the shot put with an indoor-bets 47-9.75 (14.57) while Claire Morgan was 15th (34-0.75). Morgan Bogard also threw well as she won the weight throw with a mark of 60-5.25 (18.42) while Morgan was 10th with a throw of 42-5.25.
For the men, Northridge had three sprinters under 7.00 as De'Shawn Waters won the 60 meters in a time of 6.95 while Nick Taylor (6.98) was third and Kevin Nious (6.98) was fourth. Ben Santos finished sixth (7.04) and Robert Robinson (7.10) and Michael Woodham (7.11) were both in the top 11. Eugene Sanchez finished fifth in the 200 meters in a time of 22.61. Nious also ran well in the 400 meters as he finished third (49.39) just off his indoor career best while Sanchez was eighth (50.29). In the 800 meters, Gustavo Hernandez finished ninth (2:06.51) and Adam Marvin was 10th (2:09.19).
Newcomer Lance Gonzales won the 60 meter hurdles in a time of 8.32 while Owen Morse was fourth (8.45), Robinson was seventh (8.53) and Woodham was ninth (8.69). The 4x400 relay team of Marvin, Nious, Sanchez and Taylor finished second in a time of 3:21.85.
In the field events, Thomas Johnson finished fourth in the high jump after matching his indoor career-best with a height of 6-7 (1.96). Robinson was eighth at 6-3.25 while Morse no-heighted. Newcomer Matt Todd placed fourth in the high jump at 15-6.50 (4.74) but Anthony Orozco did not post a height. Robinson and Gonzales went 1-2 in the long jump as Robinson jumped a personal-best 23-0.50 (7.02) and Gonzales jumped 22-4.50 (6.82). Chris Kelly was fifth in the long jump at 21-3.25 (6.48). Senior Rolando Felizola, coming off a redshirt season, picked up where he left off in 2007 as he won the triple jump with a mark of 49-10.50 (15.20), just off his career-best of 50-0. Eric Fremd was third in the triple jump at 46-6 (14.17) followed by Kelly at 46-4.25 (14.13).
In the throws, Alex Butler took second in the shot put with a personal-best of 54-3.25 (16.54) while Cody Pearce claimed the weight throw with a mark of 61-9 (18.82) which was just off his best of 61-11.75.


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Good morning, I'm Steve Inskeep with congratulations to Bill Clinton. The president, whose campaign theme was "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow," caught up with Twitter. TV host Stephen Colbert made him a fake Twitter account, and then Clinton began using a real one. He's posted a few messages, including one saying he's enjoying Twitter so far. Where else can you hear from Bill Gates, Paul Pierce, John McCain, Ellen DeGeneres and Usher in one day? Hashtag: #Thisisgreat.
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Journey with Werner Herzog (and Klaus Kinski) through the amazing first phase of the great German maverick's career. The fearless maestro of impossible feats, anarchic follies and bleak visions, Herzog dazzled the film world of the day with his idiosyncratic and absurd take on the human condition. Eight films you can't afford to miss—in 35mm! Read more »


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Monday, March 17, 2014
Two separate fires gutted private homes within hours of each other. Around 8:20 p.m. on Monday night, the Kingstree Fire Department (KFD) responded to a home located at the corner of Brooks Street and Railroad Avenue. When firefighters arrived at the scene the home, which was unoccupied was engulfed in flames. South Lynches and Williamsburg County Fire Departments assisted the Kingstree Fire Department. Firefighters had the fire fully under control by midnight.
W.E. Jenkinson built the home in 1912. It is purported to be the first home in the county to have indoor plumbing. Ironically, the fireplaces were double-built because Jenkin-son had experienced two house fires in his lifetime.
Since 2006, the home has remained virtually unoccupied. Because the house was unoccupied at the time of the fire, and firefighters were uncertain whether it had power, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) was contacted and is conducting an investigation.
As the scene was being cleared, South Lynches Fire Department responded to a second fire. When firefighters arrived a mobile home located at 2075 I.M. Graham Road was engulfed in flames. A pot left on the stove is being blamed for the fire.
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The Vancouver Canucks have assigned right wing Victor Oreskovich (oh-rehs-KOH-vihch), and defenseman Ryan Parent to the Chicago Wolves.
ORESKOVICH collected 3 assists and 8 penalty minutes in 16 National Hockey League games with Vancouver last year. He skated in 19 Stanley Cup playoff matchups with the Canucks, collecting 12 penalty minutes. The 25-year-old forward also accrued 12 points (4G, 8A) and 38 penalty minutes in 40 American Hockey League tilts with the Manitoba Moose last season.
PARENT posted 2 points (G, A) and 56 penalty minutes in 39 games with Manitoba last year. He also skated in four NHL contests with Vancouver during the 2010-11 season.
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At 28,251 feet, the world's second-tallest mountain, K2 thrusts skyward out of the Karakoram Range of northern Pakistan. Climbers regard it as the ultimate achievement in mountaineering, with good reason. Four times as deadly as Everest, K2 has claimed the lives of 77 climbers since 1954.
In August 2008, 11 climbers died in a single 36-hour period on K2 - the worst single-event tragedy in the mountain's history and the second-worst in the long chronicle of mountaineering in the Himalaya and Karakoram ranges. Yet summiting K2 remains a cherished goal for climbers from all over the globe.
Before he faced the challenge of K2 himself, Ed Viesturs, one of the world's premier high-altitude mountaineers, thought of it as "the holy grail of mountaineering". In K2: Life and Death on the World's Most Dangerous Mountain, Viesturs explores the remarkable history of the mountain and of those who have attempted to conquer it. At the same time he probes K2's most memorable sagas in an attempt to illustrate the lessons learned by confronting the fundamental questions raised by mountaineering - questions of risk, ambition, loyalty to one's teammates, self-sacrifice, and the price of glory.
Viesturs knows the mountain firsthand. He and renowned alpinist Scott Fischer climbed it in 1992 and were nearly killed in an avalanche that sent them sliding to almost certain death. Fortunately, Ed managed to get into a self-arrest position with his ice ax and stop both his fall and Scott's.
Focusing on seven of the mountain's most dramatic campaigns, from his own troubled ascent to the 2008 tragedy, Viesturs crafts an edge-of-your-seat narrative that climbers and armchair travelers alike will find unforgettably compelling. With photographs from Viesturs's personal colle...
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Great account of the mountain's history and awesome performance by the narrator. It's definitely a must for any mountaineering enthusiast.
Unbelievable stories. Very interesting and amazing ventures . A great book to listen to very well narrated. Will listen to it again
"Facinating and educational!"
Clear headed, well balanced writing that includes historical story telling about this facinating mountain and the human persuits of climbing it from beginning. Ed's personal endevours are painted with a humble and realistic touch that leaves me full of awe and respect of the natures wonders (in this case the awsome K2). Also that the human ego has no place in it.
"Good book"
A good book on K2 from the point of history and climber prospective. I would read it again.
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The summary of the 2008 tragedy
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"Interesting story!"
The three words I would use to sum up K2 would be interesting, tragic and technical.
He has a nice voice for narrating books and was easy to listen to.
The book was interesting overall, but I felt that the book was more about the mistakes made rather than the drama of the events on K2. It wasn't quite the story I expected, but it was a good one, nonetheless. I suspect that if I knew more about climbing mountains, it would be more exciting.
"Well written and researched"
I like mountain climbing books. My husband does not. His attitude is that if you have read one you have read them all. "We climbed a mountain and then it all went to hell." The more I thought about it, the more I agree with him but I don't care. I still like mountain climbing books and this was one of the better ones. Worth the credit.
"Fantastic listen if you love mountain climbing"
I thoroughly enjoyed the many layers of stories about K2, the level of detail given about each expedition is absolutely fantastic! If you love mountain climbing then you will love this book!
I've listentened to K2 twice through, and my favorite sections, three and four times. I find the commitment of these Climbers, the early attempts, the isolation, in a word the HISTORY, exhilerarating.
Having heard of "the belay" (Pete Schoening), for years, I especially enjoyed the chonicling of the American Expedition of 1954. The trek, just to reach the foot of the mountain by the early expeditions (350 miles), the glacier and river travel, their 1st view of those giant mountains; just fascinating.
My favorite scene has to be the 1939 expedition when Fritz Wiessner turns back near the summit because his Companion is not wanting or able to proceed. Leadership.
Yes, I did have an extreme reaction to K2. I was inspired to sign up for my first climb, Spring 2013...Mt Whitney (no spring chicken here).
I've read and enjoyed three of Ed Viesturs' books, and await a tome.
I'm just this guy, y'know?
I'm the first to admit that I enjoy a good tale about Man vs. Nature... there are some very interesting anecdotes in here, ranging from the awesomely heroic (and lucky) rescue called "The Belay" to goofy soap-opera politics after the mountain's first successful ascent. An interesting and entertaining read...
"Captivating commentary by an elite mountaineer"
Not only is this a mountaineering book, it's also a book for anyone who's interested in the decisions people make under pressure when their lives are at stake.
Whether or not they are mountaineers themselves, listeners will appreciate Ed Viesturs' critiques of the risk management decisions on his own successful expedition in 1992, as well as his analyses of attempts by others to climb K2, including the 2008 expedition in which 11 climbers died.
You don't need technical mountaineering knowledge to enjoy this book, because the author's focus is on the teamwork, or lack of teamwork, among the climbers. Viesturs appraises the various K2 attempts not primarily on whether they succeeded in getting to the top, but on how well the climbers worked together during the expedition. The benefits of good teamwork are demonstrated by the 1938 American expedition. No one on that trip managed to reach the summit, and Art Gilkey died during the climb, but it seems likely that many more of the climbers would have died had they not worked together as well as they did.
Ironically, the first successful ascent in 1954 by an Italian team was marred not only by lack of bonhomie, but also by deliberate backstabbing and lies. If there are any "bad guys" on K2 for Ed Viesturs, they are Achille Compagnoni and Lino Lachedelli, the first two climbers to reach the summit.
It is inevitable that any book like this one risks becoming morbid -- so much of the history of K2 is the history of how people die trying to climb it. Although Viesturs points out what he believes are the mistakes responsible for killing people on the mountain, it strikes me that a climber on K2 can make no mistakes and still lose his life. Renato Casarotto's death in 1986 exemplifies this. Sorry, Ed Viesturs: wearing snowshoes might not have saved Casarotto.
The narration by Fred Sanders is very good.
Loved it!! I've read a lot of books on climbing, and thought I knew quite a lot about K2, but this told me so much I didn't know, plus a re-interpretation of previous climbs from Visteurs' personal experience. Fascinating and well written. Could hardly bear to put it down/switch it off. Will get his other book now in the hope its just as good.
well read with tons of detail and theory a well researched book , enjoyed it very much
"It's so dull I didn't get past 40 mins"
Someone who already knows a lot about mountaineering, K2 specifically, and is familiar with the stories around those who have successfully made the journey as well as those who did not.
You need to be an expert in the topic already - if you're not (I'm not) then it quickly sounds like meaningless base camp codes, altitudes, names and years. The author refers to his own expertise enough times that it just comes across as self-flagellation and an 'I wouldn't have done it like that' approach to the stories of those who died trying to conquer K2.
Yes, unfortunately
I wasn't interested enough to listen any longer. I don't think I even got past chapter 1 of 8.
"K2 Droppings"
A boring self congratulary account of one mans ego trip. Occasionally interesting. Mostly bottom dribble...
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As the debate rages over photo voter ID, it is fascinating to listen to the arguments against the proposed law. The opposition continues to repeat the same old lines used back in 2005 when Georgia passed a similar photo ID bill.
Opponents in the Peach State claimed that photo voter ID was nothing more than a Jim Crow-era tactic to suppress the minority vote. Further, they claimed that the state would have to pay out millions of dollars for ID cards for the hundreds of thousands of indigent people who would require them.
Neither of these situations occurred. Far from suppressing the minority vote in Georgia, minority voting hit an all-time high in 2008, after the law won court approval. As was expected, African-American voter turnout spiked in 2008, when President Obama ran for the first time.
In Georgia's 2010 midterm elections, black voter participation fell, as did participation by all demographic groups. However, a far greater share of black voters turned out in 2010 than in the prior off-year election in 2006. This showed that Obama was not the only factor driving turnout. Far from depressing turnout, a good argument can be made that photo voter ID in Georgia increased turnout because it instilled more trust in the system.
Regardless, the facts are the facts. From 2006 – before voter ID was implemented – through 2010, black voter participation rose by 44 percent. During the same time period, the Hispanic vote rose by 67 percent. Turnout among white voters only increased 12 percent.
If photo voter ID is only about shutting down the minority vote, the Republicans pushing the legislation may be digging their own graves. Democrats, who have much higher registration among minority voters, might want to look at the Georgia results and change their tune!
The other argument against photo voter ID that does not withstand the results of the Georgia experiment is the cost of ID cards. Opponents of photo ID claim that more than 600,000 voters will be disenfranchised unless free ID cards are given out, costing millions of dollars. The same argument was made in Georgia, a state of similar size and demographic makeup. Guess how many people applied for and received free voter ID cards, courtesy of the Peach State since 2007? The number is 29,611 in the last six years.
So what is all the fuss about? Why is the NAACP continuing to raise the same old Jim Crow arguments that did not work in Georgia? Why haven't you heard about the Georgia experience before? Why do the Democrats continue to repeat the same false arguments, sling mud and race bait?
Try as they night, the political left cannot fool the voters, even those on their own side. A recent poll conducted by Elon University showed that more than 72 percent of North Carolinians supported a law requiring voters to show photo ID before being allowed to cast a vote. Over half the Democrats polled supported voter ID. Ninety-seven percent of the participants in the poll stated that they already had an acceptable form of photo ID.
In the end, all of the arguments against photo voter ID are much to do about nothing. Ask the average person on the street and they will tell you that it only makes sense to have voters identify themselves at the polls. In everyday life, none of us have trouble presenting our ID card in order to cash a check or to prove who we are when we are using a credit card or boarding an airplane.
The time has come for North Carolina to go the same way as Georgia and adopt a reasonable photo voter ID law. The last time that such a law was passed, Democrat Governor Perdue vetoed it. Ironically, she had a party at the Governor's Mansion the same night. Guess what was required to get into the mansion? You guessed it – a photo ID!
Thom Goolsby is a state senator, practicing attorney and law professor. He is a co-chair of the Senate Judiciary 1 committee.
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Assistant Chief Patrick A. Burke has over 24 years of service with the Metropolitan Police Department and currently serves as the Assistant Chief of the MPD's Strategic Services Bureau. During his MPD career, Assistant Chief Burke has served in four of the seven police districts, the Special Operations Division, Operations Command, and the Field and Tactical Support Unit. He also served as MPD's first chief of the Homeland Security Bureau. He received his undergraduate degree in criminal justice from the State University of New York College at Buffalo, a certificate of public management from the George Washington University, a Master's degree in management from the Johns Hopkins University and a Masters degree in Homeland Security Studies from the Naval Post Graduate School's Center for Homeland Defense and Security. He is also a graduate of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National Academy in Quantico, VA, the Senior Management Institute for Police (SMIP) in Boston, MA, and has attended counter-terrorism training in Israel. He has received a variety of awards and commendations, including MPD's Achievement, Meritorious Service, Police medal and Lifesaving Medals, the Cafritz Foundation Award for Distinguished District of Columbia Government Employees, the Center for Homeland Defense and Security – Straub Award for Academic Excellence and Leadership, and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Award for Public Service. He has served as the Metropolitan Police Departments principal coordinator and incident commander for a myriad of major events to include the Papal visit in 2008, the G-20 Summit, the Nuclear Security Summit and the 56th Presidential Inaugural in 2009. Chief Burke sits on numerous boards to include the Office of Police Complaints, the DC Police Foundation, and the Washington Regional Alcohol Program. Chief Burke is an active coach for youth sports and is a member of numerous community and volunteer organizations within the District of Columbia, where he resides with his wife and four children.


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LockInfo 3.0 first look [Jailbreak]
I got a chance to look at the brand new version of LockInfo a bit early so I've put together my thoughts for you guys to check out while you (im)patiently wait for the public release.
For those of you that don't know, LockInfo is a great little jailbreak app that makes up for the poor (read: lack of) notification system Apple has left us with under iOS. I wrote a LockInfo setup and walkthrough a while back and now we're going to look at the newest version of LockInfo by David Ashman.
As you can see from the screenshot above, LockInfo has gotten a pretty big face-lift in 3.0. You now have the option to select different themes within the app. The themes provided are much cleaner than the add-ons in Cydia as well. As of now, you've got the option of classic, dark, light, and iOS. All of them look exceptionally good. I also like the fact that you don't have to respring in order for a theme change to take effect. You do, however, need to exit out of settings.
Besides themes, you'll now notice that LockInfo has added support for in-line images. When you receive a Facebook notification, the Facebook icon will appear in your notification feed. Same with Twitter, Boxcar, games, and pretty much anything you get notifications for. E-mails and texts also have in-line image support as well. It just makes the entire notification feed look more streamline. Less Windows today screen like and more iOS like. Along with in-line images, you'll also notice that text will wrap instead of cutting off. Extremely nice for reading a whole text message from the lockscreen. Obviously longer messages or e-mails will cut off at some point, but the preview is significantly longer.
Another new feature is the addition of favorites which aggregates all your favorite contacts from your phone book into LockInfo. I honestly don't know how I'd live without this feature after using it. To be able to just tap a favorite contact from the lock screen to call or text them is a breath of fresh air. It'll aggregate all your favorites so all you have to do is swipe left and right in order to page through them, just as you do on your home screen already.
The settings panel hasn't changed much except for the addition of themes. Everything will be exactly like your used to. It wasn't a huge transition from the last version. All your current settings and tweaks should still be there when you upgrade so no re-configuring everything.
Overall, LockInfo 3.0 is an amazing improvement to an already great application. It's obvious David Ashman has put a tremendous amount of work into making this version the best release of LockInfo yet. It'd be wise of Apple to take a look at programs like LockInfo and learn from them. LockInfo brings the iPhone to a whole new level of usability for me and bringing it to mainstream users should be inevitable by now. But if iOS 5 doesn't bring a new notification system with it, I'll be perfectly content with LockInfo 3.0.
LockInfo currently runs for $7.99 in Cydia. You can also follow the developer, David Ashman, on Twitter as well at @Stimpy5050.
To all you jailbreakers out there, let us know what you think!
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Looks great! Can't wait for public release!
That's a good question. I don't use it on the iPad just iPhone. I'm assuming you'd need 2 licenses but someone else may be able to answer you better than I can.
Some apps check licenses some don't. I have some apps I have on several iPhones and ipads. Then I know bitesms and a few others will deactivate the other device if activated on a new one. I want to say LI works this way.
Lock info is tied to udid as well as Cydia login. So, 7.99 per device. You can transfer liscense if you get new device, but you will no longer be able to register old device.
@Rene- I know that u can't wait to use this, to bad your not jailbroken any more. Jk. But for real this looks great and I can't wait to check it out.
Are you talking about growl notifications? Similar to on a mac?
For what it is worth, I use both LockInfo and Notified Pro. LockInfo for the Lock Screen, and the Notified Pro "shade" set to be the pull down from the statusbar (With the Statusbar Notifications plugin installed).
These two programs are the only reason I"ve JB, and are both the reason why I couldn't live without a JB.
Just wondering if there is a app even close to this that is for a non-jail broken phone? I've never JB and have been holding off to try it until after 4.3 but lockinfo 3 might be the deal breaker for me (when this version is released).
Does anyone know, if you've previously purchased lockinfo 2.0 (legitimately), will version 3.0 be a free upgrade, or will there be an upgrade fee?
Version 2 was one of the two main reasons I jailbroke (other being BiteSMS), and version 3.0 looks like it will continue to be, since Apple seems to think this is something we don't need. Sorry Apple, but your wrong!
looks like it is going to be a free update: http://isource.com/2011/01/16/preview-lockinfo-3-0-for-iphone-jailbreak/
I have calendar alerts and I havent seen one. I'll look in the settings
I didn't have them enabled. bahaha Ally fail.
Sorry I'm working on that. Sometimes I'm pretty pressed for time when putting up videos. I'll try and get better.
Any idea on when the public release will be available?
David Ashman hasn't given an exact date, Just said that the public beta should be out soon. I'd assume not long after that. He moved through betas pretty quickly so I wouldn't say you'll be waiting much longer.
Sure, I'll do you one better, here are 2 links to the 2 wallpapers I used in this video. Also, I use the retina wallpaper app in the app store a lot, i'd assume that's where they came from.
You know when I first read this I was pretty happy about this new update. LockInfo is my #1 jailbreak app, heck #1 app in general. However, I think I would rather have not known this update was coming until the day of release. Now I will be checking every day to see if it has been released to the public. Kind of like how I kept looking for the 4.1 release or the untethered 4.2 jailbreak. Oh well!
Yeah i want to know too it makes the screen a lot bigger... it looks really cool someone know ?
In fact i clicked on the video to go to youtube and it was the first comment... The app is called shrink.


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Pat Barry Announces Leave from MMA, Release from UFC Contract
Veteran UFC heavyweight Pat Barrys days as an MMA fighter appear to be over.
The 34-year-olds manager, Brian Butler, today said Barry is taking an an indefinite leave from competing in MMA and has been released from his UFC contract, according to a statement sent to MMAjunkie.
Based on a quote provided by Barry, the fighter isnt walking away from combat sports completely, leaving open the door for a potential return to kickboxing. But MMA wont factor into any immediate plans.
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Despite his mediocre MMA record, Barry (8-7 MMA, 5-7 UFC) has long been a fan favorite due to his propensity for slugfests and a boisterous personality. Undersized for the division, hes still fought many heavyweight notables, defeating the likes of Joey Beltran, Christian Morecraft and Shane del Rosario during his five-plus years in the promotion.After long discussions with our client Pat Barry over the recent weeks, he has come to the decision that he will be taking an indefinite leave from competing in MMA. The UFC and Zuffa have been very gracious in releasing him from his contract and Pat is very grateful for everything they have done for him and his career.
Over the past few fights Ive just had this sinking feeling in my stomach whenever I have stepped into the Octagon and I realize, I DONT WANT TO WRESTLE. Not saying I will never do MMA again, but right now I just want to hit people. MMA and the UFC have been great to me and I will always support the company and the sport. I want to thank all my fans, sponsors and haters for being with me on this journey and I look forward to what future holds. HD!
Pat and I have talked about this for a while now and with recent changes in the landscape of combat sports, he wants to explore some options and try to get back to his roots. Hes going to take a little time to clear his head and then we will explore our options. We will keep you posted on things as they develop. Brian Butler
However, Barry, who also owns an 18-6-1 pro kickboxing record, has lost two straight and three of his past four. All of the defeats have come via first-round knockout.
Butler didnt reveal any immediate plans for Barry.


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Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Laura Marie Frazier of Goose Creek graduated on Friday, May 23, from the S.C. Governors School for the Arts and Humanities, located in Greenville.
As a young student, Laura attended Devon Forest Elementary and Westview Middle School where she participated in the Berkeley County School Districts Student Talent Enrichment Program (STEP) from the 3rd through 8th grades, concentrating in the visual arts. She attended Stratford High School before auditioning in her sophomore year for the SCGSAH where she was accepted as a residential student for her junior and senior years of high school.
SCGSAH is an audition-only, public school serving artistically talented high school students of South Carolina through rigorous programs of pre-professional instruction with an emphasis on the arts and academics. While at the Governors School, Laura earned a Silver Key in the 2014 Scholastic Art and Writing Awards competition. She earned a merit scholarship to attend the Kansas City Art Institute in Kansas City, Missouri, where she will major in animation beginning this fall.
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