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Center Jordan Bachynski did just about everything you can do on a basketball court during the Sun Devils' 79-64 season-opening win over Central Arkansas.
ASU's junior big man scored 17 points on 8-of-10 shooting from the field, grabbed 12 rebounds and recorded a school-record nine blocks.
Still, head coach Herb Sendek would like to see his team utilize Bachynski even more.
"Obviously, he had a great stat line," Sendek said Monday of Bachynski's multifaceted performance. "As impressive as that stat line is, certainly highlighted by his career-breaking nine blocked shots, I still think we have to do a better job of taking advantage of what we have inside.
"We threw it in, but we have to throw it in even more and understand good basketball is played inside-out for our team."
Just a game into their 2012-2013 campaign, ASU is still trying to figure out exactly what they have inside. While Bachynski, the tallest player in school history, definitely stole the show Saturday, he didn't exactly dominate in the post during his sophomore season -- seventh-best on the team in scoring (6.0 points per game).
But with three of their top four scorers from a year ago transferring -- Keala King, Trent Lockett and Kyle Cain -- the Sun Devils would be wise to center their offense around Bachynski and sophomore forward Jonathan Gilling.
For now, Sendek isn't trying to read too much into one game, especially when it comes to his up-and-coming man in the middle.
"When we recruited Jordan, we knew it was going to be a journey," said Sendek. "You don't go from not playing for three years, let alone not working out, to Pac-12 basketball."
Bachynski was recruited to play at ASU, despite the fact the Calgary native took two years off for his Mormon mission. Before coming to Tempe, Sendek had never seen him play in person.
But, what he's seen so far in 2012-2013 has to get him somewhat excited about the potential Bachysnki has yet to even tap into.
"Like many of our front court players historically, he continues to get better," said Sendek. "You look at the succession of guys with Pendergraph and his continued improvement, followed by Boateng and what he was able to accomplish with his development. I think Jordan is on a very similar trajectory."
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I noticed this week that there appears to be a new fashion skirt in town. They're calling it the Mullet, apparently, in homage to the eponymous and much-maligned 1980s 'business in the front, party in the back' hair style (ably demonstrated by Mr Gibson, above).
As an 80s teen myself, I can provide personal testimony on behalf of the many interesting hair and fashion combos which ran as rampant as my hormones back in the day. Personally, I was a Lady Di disciple *ahem*.
But in honour of the hairstyle which was so-good-they-have-named-a-skirt-after-it-30-years-later, I give you my Top 5 awesome and mighty Mullets of all time……
Coming in 5th, Andre Agassi.
Stubbornly clung on to his wisps at the bottom until there was nowt left on the top.
In 4th place, Mr Billy Ray Cyrus.
Possibly realised that his music might sound better with his ears covered.
In 3rd place, the awesome Michael Bolton.
The loss of his locks apparently inspiring his hit record, "How am I supposed to live without you?"
Our Runner Up…. Chris 'why ay' Waddle.
Half of infamous footie duo Hoddle and Waddle (you can't make this stuff up you know)…
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And the winner is….. Melanie Griffith!!
Who knew that Melly was a staunch supporter of the Big M?!! Taking the Ginge to epic proportions, here in Working Girl.
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Is it a sin not to vote? Or a virtue?
David Gibson October 25, 2012 - 3:27pm
A number of Catholics and evangelicals across the political spectrum who have become disillusioned with their usual candidate or with the entire political system are opting out of voting -- despite the longstanding tradition of most churches that voting is a serious duty for Christians. (Voting is a civic sacrament, as Father Hesburgh once said.)My latest piece for Religion News Service rounds up some of the arguments for abstaining, or at least threatening not to vote, or voting for a third party:
Julia Smucker, a contributor to the Vox Nova blog who identifies as a Mennonite Catholic, wrote in July that Obama had disappointed her so much she may not vote for anyone. Meanwhile her colleague Kyle Cupp said he found both campaigns so vacuous that he has almost reached the point of not caring.Similarly, Jana Bennett, a professor of theological ethics at the University of Dayton in battleground Ohio, wrote a column at the Catholic Moral Theology blog saying she is considering voting for a third-party candidate or not at all because neither party adequately represents her beliefs.Something has tipped for me this election and its the way I think Im being asked to rip myself in half, figuratively speaking, by one party or the other, or both, Bennett wrote in early October, lamenting the stupidity of the apparent choice with which I am faced in the election.The stark disparity between the two partys platforms indicates to me that regardless of who wins in November, the net result will be that nothing will continue to get done," she said. "In a two party system, we seem to have only one choice, even if that choice splits us down the middle.Bennetts colleague at the University of Dayton, Kelly Johnson, also advocated not voting, though she framed the decision as a fast in which believers should abstain from some good for the sake of orienting our desires toward a higher good.Abstaining from voting for now would recognize that in this setting and for us, elections can be an occasion of sin and a site for scandal, Johnson wrote last spring. Paul abstained from meat sacrificed to idols for the sake of other Christians; Catholics could abstain from U.S. party politics, for the sake of all of us, Catholics and non-Catholics, who are misled by such efforts.
I can understand the frustration but I have an instinctive reaction against abstaining from voting. You wind up working to elect someone anyway, in a negative way. And personally, I'd rather be guilty for what I do than for what I don't do. Thoughts?
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I think we have a civic duty to vote. I don't see why there needs to be a moral conflict; if the Democratic and Republican candidates present an occasion for sin, vote for a third party or write-in someone you find morally acceptable. As a liberal, I am extremely frustrated that my "real" choices are between a conservative incumbent and a very conservative challenger. So, Obama is the lesser evil (for me), but I am also wondering if he is lesser-evil-enough. But it wouldn't occur to me not to vote.
Mr. Gibson - excellent question and post.Here is something I posted earlier on the McGovern post:"A good and decent man with a conscience that he acted on. Unfortunately, both his campaign process (chaotic at best) and his decision on his running mate (abandoning him) pushed me in my first presidential vote to lodge a protest vote for Pat Paulsen. (yes, I know, immature and tilting at windmills).McGoverns principled stand against the Vietnam war is what sealed my admiration for him. But, as many say, I dont single issue vote."So, your question resonates with me. As you can see above, made a decision to lodge a protest vote just as I have voted for third party candidates at times.Agree - not voting seems to be too easy and what does it accomplish? Guess part of this is what you do beyond or beside just voting? To that point, have both a son and niece who stated last Sunday that they will not vote because the whole political system appears to them to be a travesty. But, that really is an easy way out - take some responsibility and do something about it. Finally, let's face it - the *lesser of two evils* are choices we make almost every day.
We have a responsibility -- I would not say "duty" -- to vote. The idea of "duty" suggests voting in the rigged plebiscites that dictators are fond of fixing. But we do owe it to each other to weigh in as long as we have the remnants of a democracy here. The responsibility to vote, however, does not include the responsibility to vote for one of the only two candidates who are enjoyed by the media. It might be fulfilled by voting for a third party. That has the value of showing you went to the polls but had low regard for the evils of the two lessers offered by the major parties.Or you can write in Uncle Bob. A beloved family member will never assassinate someone with a drone, and he or she might get a kick out of getting a vote for president.
And rather than fasting from voting, how about those urging such a fast, instead start working on building a democratic movement of Catholics to put together a comprehensive platform that isn't fragmented? and then line up a candidate? We could ourselves be that alternative third party that unifies the Church and provides a positive witness. There's another presidential election in 4 years.
I think we do have a duty as concerned engaged citizens to vote. I might understand not voting if there was no real difference between the candidates, but that isn't so in this instance. Choosing not to vote seems almost like a kind of selfish sulking - I thought Catholics were all about the common good.
Wouldn't ruining a ballot make more sense than not casting one in terms of expressing frustration with the candidates?
Thanks for this post, and the comments above.Here's a related question it provokes in my mind: is refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils an act of complicity with the greater evil? (I'm pretty sure there's not one right answer.)
It makes me sad to think of Catholics not voting. (Is that a win for the Nativists/Know Nothings/APA/etc.?) Sad to think of Catholics not voting. Is it a win for the Nativists/Know Nothings? For the APA? For the Syllabus of Errors? If you don't like Romney or Obama personally, at least think about the Supreme Court. Do you want your children and grandchildren to be ruled by Tea Party appointees? In days of yore, we learned in grade school about the importance of voting. Here's one example from Treasure Chest. (The great Catholic comic book is provided online by CUA.)http://www.aladin0.wrlc.org/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-01000-00---off-0tre...(See page 5 for an example of how things haven't changed all that much in 54 years.)
Is the question "not to vote" or "not to vote for President". In my state( Ct) the senate vote is more important than the president.
I remember in high school being shocked that a teacher said that he had never voted for a presidential candidate but only against one of them. I then thought this was rather cynical. I don't think so any more.I don't know that I would regard not voting as an act of virtue, but neither do I think it a sin. In the past I've voted for candidates for some offices and not for others. Apart from deciding in favor of one's own candidate, what do you suggest as an option--on election day--for those who have come to the conclusion that they can't vote for either presidential candidate? The only suggestion above that would appeal to me would be to write in someone else's name. Are write-in votes counted?
Making choices in an imperfect world is something I thought that Catholics, as well as other normal people, did every day. Barring some unforeseeable event, one of two men will be President of the United States for the next four years, and it won't be a third-party candidate or a write-in. It may not be sin, but it is surely not virtue to put pique before principle and refuse to vote because I perceive that neither of these men is perfect. There never has been such a candidate. But if I can see no significant difference between them, and between the policies each will try to implement in office, I am just not trying very hard.
Father Komonchak, yes. write-in votes are counted. They are listed at the end of voting registrars' reports, but I have rarely seen them reported in the newspaper. In 1968, the Kansas City Star did run a list of write-in votes, but that year there was an organized campaign for Eldridge Cleaver in some states, although not in Missouri. As I recall, Dick Gregory got 43 votes in Kansas City.
There's a moral conflict for me in voting for either candidate.They both believe in murdering people.I believe in self defense but what obama is doing is not self defense.Nor is his position on abortion defensible. To vote would be to add my one vote to a culture of murder-legalized murder. Though I prefer obama to romney for other reasons- contributng to this culture of murder with my vote-when i really don't have to, is wrong -i believe. i have to pay taxes, i can't leave the country as that would be too cumbersome at this point in my life[economically and for my family which I have responsibility to] but I CAN not vote.That's easy.The lesser of two evils is one thing-but when we're talking about cold blooded murder -whether abortion or the "war on terror" meaning dropping bombs on the villages of pakistan and afghanistan and targeted assasinations, I can't add my vote to that.
I find this to be a particularly interesting and (obviously) pertinent topic. I do have one reaction to the last point from the original post. David Gibson writes, "I can understand the frustration but I have an instinctive reaction against abstaining from voting. You wind up working to elect someone anyway, in a negative way." I have two points to make here: 1) Because of the electoral college, this only applies to people voting in swing-states. So, the question becomes somewhat arbitrary. How wide does the gap have to be before one's vote is meaningless anyway. I vote in the state of Connecticut and this year I wrote in Daniel Berrigan (mainly because I would love if he were president, and also because the irony of voting for him is too much for me to pass up). Now, there is about the same chances that Berrigan gets the electoral votes from my state as there is that Romney gets them. So, I have avoided voting for anyone from the two major parties, and I'm not certain how that matters from a pragmatic point of view.2) This is the more important point, I think. If one truly does not want to be responsible for either Obama or Romney being elected to the presidency, why should s/he choose one of them? If an individual truly believes that casting either of those votes goes against his or her conscience, it would simply be wrong to cast that vote, even if there may be a "lesser evil."
If one ops out voting as a continuing lifestyle choice I say great. But if a citizen voter throws up his hands at a particular election I say he/she is a bug out. Something like joining the infantry and suddenly say I'm not firing in this engagement because half the German infantry in front of us are fellow Catholics. a little notion and a little late.
Here is the US bishops on this question in "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship":"13. In the Catholic Tradition, responsible citizenship is a virtue, and participation in political life is a moral obligation. This obligation is rooted in our baptismal commitment to follow Jesus Christ and to bear Christian witness in all we do. As the Catechism of the Catholic Church reminds us, "It is necessary that all participate, each according to his position and role, in promoting the common good. This obligation is inherent in the dignity of the human person. . . . As far as possible citizens should take an active part in public life" (nos. 1913-1915)."14. Unfortunately, politics in our country often can be a contest of powerful interests, partisan attacks, sound bites, and media hype. The Church calls for a different kind of political engagement: one shaped by the moral convictions of well-formed consciences and focused on the dignity of every human being, the pursuit of the common good, and the protection of the weak and the vulnerable. The Catholic call to faithful citizenship affirms the importance of political participation and insists that public service is a worthy vocation. As Catholics, we should be guided more by our moral convictions than by our attachment to a political party or interest group. When necessary, our participation should help transform the party to which we belong; we should not let the party transform us in such a way that we neglect or deny fundamental moral truths. We are called to bring together our principles and our political choices, our values and our votes, to help build a better world.[...]"16. As the Holy Father also taught in Deus Caritas Est, "The direct duty to work for a just ordering of society is proper to the lay faithful" (no. 29). This duty is more critical than ever in today's political environment, where Catholics may feel politically disenfranchised, sensing that no party and too few candidates fully share the Church's comprehensive commitment to the life and dignity of every human being from conception to natural death. Yet this is not a time for retreat or discouragement; rather, it is a time for renewed engagement. Forming their consciences in accord with Catholic teaching, Catholic lay women and men can become actively involved: running for office; working within political parties; communicating their concerns and positions to elected officials; and joining diocesan social mission or advocacy networks, state Catholic conference initiatives, community organizations, and other efforts to apply authentic moral teaching in the public square. Even those who cannot vote have the right to have their voices heard on issues that affect their lives and the common good."
Count me in John Prior''s camp. And by the way, I find all this "lesser of two evils" talk much too glib. We're voting for someone to fill a political office. So far as I know there has never been a political practice in a large state that could, without qualification, be called good. Flaws, large and small, have affected all such political regimes. Nonetheless, unless we are "political Manichaens" we have good reason to applaud some political regimes as good, not simply as the lesser of evils. Those who lead them deserve praise for having done so. With all the objections that can rightly be raised against a number of Mr. Obama's policies, I find that his overall record is, all things considered, notably better than that of his predecessor and that of his predecessor's father. His predecessor was a disaster, I think, and his father was insufficiently concerned with the safety net. I'll have no qualms about voting for Mr. Obama. In answer to the Romney question: "Are you better off?" my answer is a resounding Yes.
That's a good final point from Faithful Citizenship, I think: that if you can't or won't vote, you have a duty to affect politics in some other way. Voting really is the least burdensome civic responsibility. You go in, pull a couple levers, and you get to complain for the next couple of years. Getting involved is better, though I'd say doing both is best, if you can.
I think not voting, especially when you can write in any name of your choice, is not an act of protest, it's an act of hubris. Not unlike asking someone to stand down, then taking repeated shots at him when you know he won't reply. But I digress.
I remember my priorities 4 years ago: closing Guantanamo, and ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I thought the easiest task by far for the new president would be the closure of the Guantanamo detention center. I was wrong... But I also remember stating that if he achieved even only one of my main goals, I would call myself satisfied. Do others remember what they wanted 4 years ago?
I understand and appreciate the angst involved in decision like this. But, I have come to a point in my life where if I begin to feel that during elections, I need to take a step back and do some serious self (and political) examination. Politics should not be so all consuming nor should we allow any institution or government to have such involvement in our lives that it affects us in emotional ways.We are not voting for spiritual or moral leaders but political leaders who will apply themselves in specific ways to specific problems. Everybody can establish their own criteria and interests and examine the positions of each to see which best fits. Good heavens we are not choosing a spouse or a lifelong commitment. If you don't like it, then make another change in four years or get involved in the local party and advance different candidates.Even in three party systems, you always run in to strategic voting situations (i.e. I would like to vote NDP but that candidate does not have a chance so I will vote Liberal so Conservative will not get in or some variant of that). I always say, vote for the candidate that most represents your interests. It is not a wasted vote that way. But at the same time, I don't think you should do a write in ballot. If you are really dissatisfied, get involved in a third party and help it to grow so that the third party can be on the ballot. If the rules are such that you are only given two choices, I think you are obligated to select one of those two choices until such time as third party can be on the ballot. But one should invest energies in that if one is consistently torn.I think you should vote for the person you most think could positively affect the community and country in positive ways.I am not a fan of purity tests. But then again, I already know which way I would likely vote even though I may not be with the candidate in every respect. The overall trajectory is in the direction, that persuades me.One cannot let the perfect be the enemy of the good. But of course what I think might be good is probably (well likely in this case) different than what the majority here might believe. But that is why we have elections eh!
"Are write-in votes counted?"Yes, Prof. Komonchak, they're counted, but they don't count for much, sad to say.I'm not a diehard Obama fan, but there is absolutely NO way I can support the Republican platform. The thought of Ryan being a heartbeat away from the presidency scares the hell out of me! I suspect the Democrats would better respond to the needs of the poor.
"It may not be sin, but it is surely not virtue to put pique before principle and refuse to vote because I perceive that neither of these men is perfect."It is an insult so to describe those who have a moral conflict in voting for either presidential candidate. Similar condescending comments would not be hard to conjure up for those who have their minds made up. Voters for the two major candidates are not the only responsible ones around.
As I said before, which of these 2 men do you want making the next appointment to the SCOTUS? I know who I want to do that!I personally do NOT want an doctrinnaire religionist for President. We are electing a President of the entire nation with all of its diversity, not a leader of a Judeo/Christian nation (which doesn't exist, anyway).
"Voters for the two major candidates are not the only responsible ones around."I wholeheartedly agree. And we will always be stuck with only two major candidates as long as voters choose to only vote for those two parties. Claire: I wanted the same things you wanted last election. Sojourners has a nice essay which reflects my own values in electing a President:"For Christians, our election choices should always have most to do with protecting the the least of these: low-income individuals and families undocumented people, who are in the biblical category of the stranger children born and unborn those most vulnerable to hunger and disease around the world poor people most impacted by climate change women and children being trafficked and exploited, and those who are victims of violence and the collateral damage of war "http://sojo.net/magazine/2012/11/how-choose-presidentI'm not hearing very much discussion on any of this from either major candidate.
Jim Pauwels (5:40 p.m. ) Here is a paragraph from Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship that you overlooked:"36. When all candidates hold a position in favor of an intrinsic evil, the conscientious voter faces a dilemma. The voter may decide to take the extraordinary step of not voting for any candidate or, after careful deliberation, may decide to vote for the candidate deemed less likely to advance such a morally flawed position and more likely to pursue other authentic human goods."That seems to equate voting for the candidate you hope is the bigger liar with not voting in that race at all, although I am sure that is not what the bishops intended. It does, anyway, give protective fire for Catholics who choose to skip a race.
Joseph A. Komonchak @ 6:22 pm:If it is an insult and a condescending comment, it is directed, as the sentence shows, against myself. Sadly, I have not the exquisite moral sensitivity to understand that this election is a contest between Hitler and Caligula.
I think voting for someone who has absolutely no chance of winning is the same as not voting.In this election, while neither candidate may be stellar on issues of war, in other areas, like the environment, they are worlds apart. A vote for Obama could make a big difference to the environment, and if there's a "least of these" list, I'd think our planet would make the cut.
Perhaps I am a moral midget. I find it very difficult to think that not voting at all or voting for someone who has no reasonable chance of winning to be a very peculiar exercise of citizenship. Unless one can make the case that not voting will be politically effective, i.e. will lead to some likely reform of the political discourse and practice in the society, then it is hard for me to see that one is not just advocating that we write off the entire political process. That may be the only acceptable option in a dictatorship or totalitarian state, but when, as is the case in modern democracies, there is an opportunity to work politically with others to effect policy changes as well as to prevent the dismantling of important programs to alleviate the plight of our fellow citizens, then to opt out is, I think, hard to defend.Note that what I say does not mean that I think that only a vote for Obama is defensible. Though I myself strongly support his reelection, I have to admit that one could plausibly conclude that a vote for Romney would be better for our society. I cannot see how not voting at all could reasonably be regarded as a positive contribution to our political life.
Tom B - how do you know I overlooked it? Maybe I just didn't read that far :-)It's certainly an interesting snippet. Note the formulation, "When all candidates hold a position in favor of an intrinsic evil". Intrinsic. Probably this sentence is the source for some statements by individual bishops that have been criticized here (including from time to time by me) for equating "intrinsic" with "important".Off the top of my head, I'm not aware of an intrinsic evil which both President Obama and Governor Romney support. (Without denying that war can be, and even almost always is, evil, and that it is important, I don't view it as an intrinsic evil; and at any rate, both candidates seem to agree more or less on the current policy toward Iran and Pakistan, and see that path as the path to peace).
I believe a citizen has a responsibility to vote after trying to get informed about the choices. This is the best country I have, for better and for worse. My vote is about 0.00004% of the state total and counts if I use it shrewdly. If I were to walk away, I wouldn't matter in this election. The election is not an examination of consciences or a beatification process. One of the presidential candidates (and his immediate successor in case of calamity) will be elected to carry out a very complicated job in a treacherous future not easily predicted. The daily complexities on national and global scales are not amenable to campaign sound bites and buzz words. A vote is a bet and a hope that the man chosen will do as much as possible as well as possible in the world we are entering. Therefore, the decision of how to vote should be demanding but not the decision on whether to vote. Where I grew up, the more crooked candidate was the preferred choice at times because he knew how to get the job done better with tolerable overhead.
Btw - the Romney campaign just texted me: the Governor's view on this moral conundrum is that progressive Catholics certainly should stay home on election day.
"Where I grew up, the more crooked candidate was the preferred choice at times because he knew how to get the job done better with tolerable overhead."I think I grew up near you. Where I grew up, it was suggested that one vote for the rich guy; if he has enough money of his own, he won't steal yours.
One would think, by way of example, a Republican casting a meaningless vote for President in New York and otherwise not participating in political life or public service cannot be more virtuous than a Democrat in Alabama who abstains from voting while otherwise participating extensively in political life. Furthermore, to the extent someone is willfully abstaining from voting as an act of temperance, for example to ensure emotional attachments do not affect their moral judgements, then to people who view temperance as the greatest virtue, I would expect that person would therefore find that abstention a virtuous exercise of the will.
I can understand not being able to vote for either candidate in good conscience. I've been known to write in the name of our pastor.I hope, though, that not liking either presidential ticket won't dissuade folks from showing up to vote. There are a lot of down-ballot elections that deserve your civic engagement.
MAT brings up an interesting sidebar to this discussion. Several of our WWII generals did not vote in presidential elections to avoid being in the position of having voted against the man who became their commander-in-chief. Anyone have a moral problem with that?Jim Pauwels (8:07), I urge you to consider this: Committing assassination without a declaration of war from Congress OR a judicial determination that the target/victim is who the president says he is and is guilty of what the president says he did OR at least a post-assassination assessment by somebody outside of the president' circle of yes-men, gofers and flunkies. The subject came up fleetingly in the third debate with the moderator assuming the president was for that policy -- since it is his -- and the challenger nodded along happily like a bobblehead doll. I'd call that evil, and I'd call the evil intrinsic.
I think voting for someone who has absolutely no chance of winning is the same as not voting.I don't think so. If you don't vote, no one will know whether it was not imply by indifference or laziness. But if you do vote for a "loser", you're sending a message of protest and expressing some preference for a hypothetical alternative. If a significant number of people do that, then the new president will know that x% of the people feel strongly enough about that alternative to thus throw away their vote on someone with no chance but better ideas: it makes those ideas visible. A politician would be foolish to ignore that! It may also serve as a wake-up call to reform the system.
"Committing assassination without a declaration of war from Congress OR a judicial determination that the target/victim is who the president says he is and is guilty of what the president says he did"I'm very troubled by the regime of assassination. Would a Congressional or judicial imprimatur change its moral status? I'm not sure that it would. But here's a less complicated example: presumably, both candidates (and every major presidential candidate since 1945?) has supported the use of nuclear weapons, which I would argue is an intrinsic evil. Having said that, I think the President doesn't get - or claim - nearly enough credit for reducing nuclear stockpiles. That, and the large increase in food stamp enrollment, should rank every bit as high as Obamacare in the Catholic social teaching honor roll of his accomplishments - and arguably higher than the financial reform or the GM bailout.
In 2000 I believed that it didn't really matter which candidate US citizens would vote for, Bush or Gore. I thought that once in office, they would be so constrained and so inclined to pander to results of polls that it wouldn't make much difference what party they came from. How wrong I was! We're still working on undoing the damage of the disastrous decisions taken by Bush during his presidency. Bush's legacy, I believe, is a powerful incentive to cast an immediately useful vote rather than a protest vote.
In an imperfect world we sometimes have difficult choices to make. But is it right to abstain from choosing when it is possible to-- at least-- minimize future damage by taking into consideration the likely fallout from the election of each candidate and voting for the one who would do the least harm?
In voting for a president we are voting not just for a person who promises to do X or Y but for the person's administration and party. BEcause we are voting for a party, we must look at what the party has done in the rather recent past. In the case of the Republican Party in the last several decades, taken as a whole (including the Republican presidents) the Republican Party has gotten us into two major wars, cut taxes for the rich and not the middle class, and has not met the challenges of energy, education and infrastructure. Further, it has spent vastly more money than the Democratic Party, even though it used to have the reputation as fiscally conservative. Further, during the Obama administration it willfully obstructed his every initiative, even when the initiatives had first been proposed by a Republican!!True, the Democrats are rather bad on abortion, but the Republicans have actually not done much better even when they were in power. The abortion problem can't be solved until the populace wants it to be solved, and that means persuading people to change their thinking. Changing presidents won't do it.So vote early and vote often, folks. I don't have to say how.
And how could I forget -- the financial crisis was largely due to the lack of regulation of the financial sector by the Republican administrations, and the current Republican candidate is all for eliminating the regulatory laws that Obama managed to get passed. Some people never learn.
I consider financial reform a huge failure of the Obama administration. There was ample political will for real reform and it never happened. But what else could we expect when the President surrounded himself with the Tim Geithners, Bill Daleys and Lawrence Summers of the world I guess, when you're bankrolled and beholden to corporate America, it is difficult to regulate it.
It's rather simple for me this time. I'm voting to save Obamacare.
Ann's particulars are precisely the sort of things that tip the scales for me. And...could anyone imagine the Republican party to be less " bankrolled and beholden to corporate America" than the Democrats?
'could anyone imagine the Republican party to be less bankrolled and beholden to corporate America than the Democrats?"No, the Republicans would be just as bought and paid for as the Democrats are.
In just 4 short years, we've gone from the lofty rallying cry of "hope and change" to..."No, the Republicans would be just as bought and paid for as the Democrats are."Why even bother voting?
This is an interesting post. For those who like a little history, here is an excerpt from an October 5, 1916 editorial by Joseph Matt for Der Wanderer, when it was still a German-Catholic newspaper, counseling readers not to vote, since both Wilson and his Republican challenger Justice Hughes would both lead the United States into war, despite their promises to the contrary. Matt, by the way, while counseling readers to abstain from voting for president, did urge his readers to vote for Democrat House candidates because he feared Republican internationalism. Here is the excerpt:"American election campaigns have never enjoyed the reputation of promoting the education of the people in high ideals. For the most part, they were dedicated to self interest, eloquence, demagoguery. Pessimists generally came out ahead when they claimed to find their dour expectations realized in our political life. But those who sought comfort in the politician who repeated the phrase: 'My son, you have no idea how much nonsense is spoken in world governance'these were not on the short end either. "It is hard to say what is the dominant characteristic of the current campaign: is it a tragedy of a people undoubtedly called to high tasks which sets about building its future devoid of all planning and setting of goals and lacking any kind of solid principles or is it a comedy in which its political leaders articulate soothing, multivalent phrases behind which an ego-trip stands as a categorical imperative. Thus, the anointed leaders set about extolling each other.."Our people, the ruling party, the leaders of the parties have the splendid opportunity to make their mark on world history and assure for the American republic lasting gratitude from all the peoples now suffering from the catastrophe of a world war. It makes no difference which political party is in power in this difficult time. For the basic root of the malaise affecting our American political life lies in the fact that there is no really constructive party, no party whose program is anchored in eternally valid ethical principles. On the contrary, any party in control allows itself to be swayed by considerations of momentary advantage, and it is from this standpoint that judgments about right or wrong are formed."As the situation looks now the most useful strategy lies in the direction of abstaining from voting in the presidential election...."
Paul L, interesting bit of history, thanks. I believe Dorothy Day could not bring herself to vote for president either, no? Good discussion here, thanks.I try not to be too cynical about it all, and I think there are real differences and also much at stake for others than myself. So I feel a duty to participate. Similarly, many can become cynical about the state of the hierarchy, which seems to be no better than our domestic politics. But I still vote for bishop. Oh. Wait...
david, i couldn't agree with you more. not voting isn't an effective act of protest. it's a passive act that undermines our system, which is unarguably flawed, but yet has its merits. what irene said at the top of this thread is true, it is our civic duty to vote. plus, to my mind, if you don't vote, you lose your right to complain about how bad things are. here's to voting.
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David Gibson is a national reporter for Religion News Service and author of The Coming Catholic Church (HarperOne) and The Rule of Benedict (HarperOne). He blogs at dotCommonweal.


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The fifth annual Blessing of the Fleet Wine and Design Mount Pleasant Design on Wheels class at Alhambra Hall will be held on Wednesday, April 24 from 6 to 8 p.m. The cost will be $40.
The event will feature a collaboration of the best of the best: Art, craft beer and doughnuts.
Participants will paint for an awesome cause, local shrimpers while overlooking Charleston Harbor with Wine and Design (voted Best Art Instruction in Charleston).
Beer will be provided by Westbrook (voted BEST Brewery in Mount Pleasant). The first beer included with your class purchase. Then, a portion of the beer sales will go to the Blessing. Donuts provided by GLAZED Gourmet DOUGHNUTS (voted BEST Bakery in Charleston). One doughnut is included with class purchase. There will also be live music.
The painting is on metal. Mr. James is creating it now. There is a chance that TJ Philips from WEZL will make his annual appearance.
Class space is limited. Sign up online at www.wineanddesignUS.com/MountPleasant.
Wine and Design can be found on Facebook at www.facebook.com/WineAndDesignMountPleasant.
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CRESTVIEW — A closed Crestview City Council meeting to discuss pending litigation on a downtown alleyway's ownership has raised questions about the meeting's unusual advertisement and council members' reluctance to discuss its content.
Advertised for Jan. 3, 2012 in the back pages of Wednesday's Northwest Florida Daily News, the Crestview City Council met in closed session Thursday evening to discuss legal action against resident Barbara Adams and Florida A&M University.
Less notification
Two copies of the meeting agenda reportedly appeared on bulletin boards in City Hall.
Loretta Scardina, City Clerk Betsy Roy's administrative assistant, said she was instructed not to send a meeting notification usually emailed to local media and other interested residents in advance of city council meetings.
Update: Mayor David Cadle said he was not the one who instructed the city against informing the media about the meeting, and he doesn't know who did.
Barbara Petersen, president of the First Amendment Foundation, a Florida government-in-the-sunshine watchdog organization, said the meeting's unusual notification did not appear to constitute an open meetings law violation.
"I doubt the fact that they screwed up the date, on its own, would be a violation of the law. We're all doing that this week," Petersen said.
"But the placement of the ad — was that 'reasonable notification'? 'Reasonable' means it has to be sufficient to inform those who are interested in attending. Only a court could make that determination."
City attorney Jerry Miller has been negotiating with Adams regarding ownership of the alleyway on the east side of Florida A&M University's downtown building. When the city gave the former Alatex building and land it occupies to FAMU for its pharmacy school, it was assumed the alley was included in the parcel.
Adams contends her family legally retained the alleyway to service nearby Main Street businesses. Service vehicles regularly used the alleyway to make deliveries to the businesses.
Locked doors
Because City Hall's doors were routinely locked when the building closed Thursday evening, only residents who arrived in advance could attend the meeting's public portion. Cal Zethmayr, a WAAZ-FM reporter, arrived after the meeting began and couldn't open the doors.
Doors are locked as security, Councilwoman Robyn Helt said. When Zethmayr sent a text message to Mayor David Cadle to inform him the public couldn't attend the meeting because of locked doors, Roy unlocked the doors after the closed session concluded and the meeting's public portion resumed.
"An executive session is not open to the public," Helt said.
The locked doors and unusual notification of the meeting were not a "plot" to exclude the public or media from the meeting, she said.
"Before the executive session, there were members of the public waiting outside the door to the council chamber," Helt said. "The doors were open prior to going in there, but once we convened in the executive session, nobody is permitted to be in there. As soon as the executive session ended, the city clerk unlocked the doors to City Hall and we reconvened in a public meeting."
The meeting's only public portions were the call to order, invocation, Pledge of Allegiance and roll call, Councilman Tom Gordon said.
"Then, everybody gets out," Gordon said. "Even Betsy Roy had to leave. We had our discussion and had a candid conversation."
The meeting was held under Florida statutes permitting a voting body to conduct a confidential discussion with its legal representative, Petersen explained.
As advertised, just Miller, Cadle, council members and a court reporter — whose transcript of the meeting will become public upon the litigation's conclusion — attended, Gordon said.
Helt and Gordon said Miller advised them not to comment on the meeting's non-public content.
"I can just tell you that the city attorney has advised us not to comment on it at this point," Helt said.
"My official answer has to be 'no comment,'" Gordon said. "But 'no comment' sucks."
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