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Is liberal Catholicism dead?
Paul Moses May 5, 2008 - 10:00am
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Hate to parse Van Biema's point, but there's a language problem here. He uses Progressive and Liberal as if they mean the same thing. Commonweal has often been called a liberal Catholic magazine, but not a progressive one--a distinction I maintain. Is it a distinction without a meaning? To those under 45?
Peggy, how do you define the difference?
Well, we could start with publications. CWL has been liberal; the NCR progressive though it started out a liberal newspaper under Bob Hoyt. Under most of my predecessors, I saw Commonweal as part of the mainstream, New Deal, Catholic coalition with a strong interest in culture and the arts, but focusing on political and economic issues. It also had a strong interest in foreign policy, especially Central and Latin America. Roughly speaking, 1968 and Humanae Vitae sent the NCR in a more "progressive" direction at least with regard to church matters. Though CWL too was critical of HV, I don't think it ever became the talisman of the rest of its coverage. CWL though critical of U.S. foreign policy thru Vietnam and the seventies never went radical and on some issues took a more critical stance toward parts of the Catholic Left. I think this stand more or less continued when I was editor and I would say (though Paul Baumann might want to weign in) that is still the case.CWL went after the Sex Abuse issues (which seems to be the turning point for Van Biema) but never cottoned to VOF, or at least, I never did. To generalize perhaps too much, liberal Catholics as represented at CWL seemed to me to reside more or less in the center or slightly to the left of it; progressive Catholics like Progressive politics generally were more politically and culturally to the Left. Does that raise the confusion to a higher level?
Margaret, just to clarify, it looks like you're saying that Commonweal has a politically/socially liberal bent, but that it is not progressive in that it isn't out to agitate for change within the church.I want to make sure I understand you correctly before I start running my mouth (as it were).Thanks.
The article goes wrong by interpreting the appreciation shown for Pope Benedict in political terms. The church is a different kind of entity. It's been shown time and again that Catholics can have great affection and respect for their pope while at the same time disagreeing with him on important matters. The study "American Catholics Today" estimated that no more than a third of "highly committed" American Catholics (and just 7 percent of all Catholics) agree with the church on all matters.If liberal Catholicism is dead, why are conservatives so angry? I think it is because the liberal understanding of authority in the church has been absorbed into the mainstream - even conservatives will assail the bishops when they disagree.
The Commonweal has just run an article by Fr. Thomas Reese that more than hints that there is much in the church's structure that could benefit from reform. Was the editorial decision to do this an instance of Progressivism? Liberalism? Conservatism? Or what? Anyone for historically grounded reformism? I guess that is not catchy enough.As for the Time article, it seems to me an attempt to sell a few magazines by raising an ill-defined question with a snappy title as follow up to the Pope's visit to the U.S.
Jean Raber: Feel free to "run your mouth"; it's among the best on the site. But no of course, Commonweal has always been interested in church reform. Others can characterize the degree of that interest, but I would say that through the Jadot bishops, the Bernardin-Weakland years, probably through the end of the nineties, there was a sense that reformers, albeit cautious ones, were running the bishops' conference and had the support of a good majority of the bishops. Many liberals with a sense of the pace that the church moved accepted that this was as good as it was going to get. Of course, it has now gotten worse.
Time and too many of us fall victim of nifty characterizations. But this article, as I see it is really overreaching. Cardinal Law altered Commonweal and Peggy Steinfels in my opinion. Could anyone imagine Peggy giving a speech on transparency to the American bishops before 2002? Before 2002 Commonweal scoffed at the conservative/liberal divide as not that important. Again it is complicated. Ted Hesburgh, arguably the most important person in American Civil rights in the 60's (and ending the cold war) was loudly criticized by Commonweal for being too tough on demonstrating students.And what Paul quoted above certainly shows that the Time article is superficial at best and more accurately a inane piece. Here is Paul's quotation again:"The study American Catholics Today estimated that no more than a third of highly committed American Catholics (and just 7 percent of all Catholics) agree with the church on all matters."
I think it is because the liberal understanding of authority in the church has been absorbed into the mainstream - even conservatives will assail the bishops when they disagree.I think that it is more of a case of democracy being so much of an ingrained aspect of ourselves that it is impossible to govern the church undemocratically. By democracy I mean the basic concept of 'consent of the governed'. If the governed do not consent to a teaching it is because consultation has been inadequate. Hence Humanae Vitae needs to be reformed. There are good underlying principles but it requires further consultation to reflect the truth.The bottom line is that the Church need not fear democracy at least in principle. Respect for due order needs to be observed for sure as does respect for the sacred ministry. The implications for Bishops (including the Bishop of Rome) is to understand the curent milieu and adapt accordingly. That is, in my view the definition of a progressive, one who can adapt quickly to changing contexts in order to advance justice and love. In the context of the church it means that there is a desire, among progressives, to respect the institution of the Church (however the current governors choose to define it) when it comes to matters of faith, piety and spirituality but on the level of collective and personal life there is a strong current of individualism that pervades postmodern consciousness. Progressives are comfortable in that new Catholic reality. Perhaps WFBs line was prophetic for both conservative and liberal when he famously quipped Mater si, Magistra no! Consequently, the Church must adapt its teaching much more subtly. Authority is the worst form of argument. I think Benedict understands this. Hans Kung (a liberal) said of his old friend that he is very sweet and very dangerous. I dont think he is dangerous but he is better at persuading than either the liberals (Kung, Rahner) or the conservatives (John Paul II).The Pope today is given the biggest religious microphone (since even the devil gets his due we have to congratulate those crafty Romans on their political acumen), Let's just pray that for him that he persuade according to the will of our Lord.
Catholic World News blogger "Diogenes" has bravely declared liberal Catholicism a "lifeless dummy." http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=singledisplay&r... wonder what a society man like Uncle Di would do with his time were he to get his wish.
"Cheesy singing act"?For the record: the St. Louis Jesuits were not "an act"; primarily were a group of composers, not singers; saw their work, not so much as being the bards for a church political party, as giving of their considerable talents to the church as a whole, faithfully contributing to the great work of liturgical reform; and composed some durable, memorable, respected, life-changing music. I had a difficult time taking the piece seriously after reading that characterization.Regarding the larger point: pretty sure EJ Dionne said, a decade or so ago, "We're all liberals now". That seems right to me. Also FWIW - so long as the Gospel is proclaimed, it will be a touchstone for the church by which to measure injustice, both within the church and without. Work for justice in the church won't stop because of a change of generations.
I remember that Peter Steinfels made a similar effort to distinguish between "liberal Catholicism" and the "Catholic left" in his famous debate with Cardinal George. One of the points that Peter made there is that it has been difficult for the former to adequately distinguish itself from the latter. The result of this, of course, is that "liberal Catholicism" gets criticized for positions that its adherents may not actually hold.I would say, though, that this puts at least some of the onus on self-described "liberal Catholics" to draw firmer boundaries around the project. While I think that it's true that CWL has taken, as Peggy puts it, a more critical stance toward the Catholic left, I don't think that criticism has ever been as pointed as, for example, that offered by The New Republic in dealing with the left wing of the Democratic Party. During the 1980s, TNR was often as trenchant in its criticisms of the Left as it was of the New Right (in some cases, quite frankly, it was more trenchant, particularly on issues of foreign policy).I remember thinking of this comparison during the controversy over the "ordinations" of Catholic women in Germany and the United States. CWL may well have offered some criticisms of these actions, but I don't recall them being particularly strong. Had the editors of the 1980s TNR been running CWL, I can guarantee that the response would have been blistering, as the magazine rarely missed an opportunity to make its differences with the Left clear. They drew a lot of criticism for this approach at the time, but in retrospect they were correct in understanding what it would take for the general public to take liberalism seriously again as a political movement.Does a similar choice face liberal Catholicism? It well may.
I am uncertain what conservative means or liberal [echoing perhaps Gilbert & Sullivan about English babies being born "little Liberals or little Conservatyves"], but I found relevant this quotation from the TIMES [London] of 21 August 1914] on the death of Pius X:"To the downright plain sense of the Pope, the desperate efforts of men who had explained away the content of historical Christianity to present themselves as orthodox Roman Catholics were simply disingenuous".
I would hardly count the TNR as my standard here. It was once a liberal magazine. It became a neocon magazine, and now???? Walking home from Fordham this evening the aforesaid Peter Steinfels reminded me that a big distinction he drew between CWL and NCR was that NCR became pacifist. CWL did not. Grant would do us all a favor by giving access to the George/Steinfels debate in Chicago, some years back on George's claim that Catholic liberalism was dead (said from a pulpit!) and Peter's counter-claim at a gathering with George at LU (Chicago) that it was not. Judge John Noonan, journalist E.J. Dionne and historian and irenicist John McGreevy offered their various views. I am of the view that Louis Hartz got it right umpteen million year ago in "The Liberal Tradition in America," a book that said everyone in the U.S. is a liberal of varying degrees (especially the conservatives in contrast to European conservatism).
What are the issues that are at stake? Biblical studies and the relevance of the historico-cultural studies to Biblical interpretation? Whence evil? What does it mean to say that Jesus is both God and man? Why did God create at all? Why create so many who could never have heard of either the Jews or the Christians? Is the Church first and foremost for the world or not? I wrestle with these questions and respect those who do also. But many clergymen apparently do not. Why should I pay much attention to their talk that shows no grasp of the implications of what they are saying?Does the attitude I evince here make me liberal? Progressive? Just cranky? Does avoiding wrestling with questions like these make one a conservative? If so, then we really have entered the world of Pickwickian language.
Historically, to be a liberal is to come down on the side of personal freedom and against extensive regulation, and to insist on the right of the governed to have a voice in who governs them. In this sense I think most, perhaps almost all, American are liberals, and the American government is an experiment in liberalism. But freedom cannot be unlimited. It generates conflicts of interest and people differ not so much about whether there should be freedom but about how it needs to be limited so that all can share the benefits.
If I am on the right track above, one might expect a Liberal Catholic to be one who brings the came values to bear on church affairs as a liberal does in political ones generally. A Liberal Catholic would want to minimize restrictive regulation, encourage the free exhange of ideas, and believe that the laity should have a voice in the choice of bishops and pastors. In the 19th and for some part of the 20th century the papacy strongly opposed political liberalism. I think it still opposes the application of liberal principles to church affairs. The question is why? One wonders what Benedict XVI makes of Fr. Reese's suggestions for reform.
Only Grant has the "power of the keys" as it were, but those of you who are subscribers can access Peter Steinfels' article (and Cardinal George's reply) here:http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/article.php3?id_article=530And if you're not a subscriber...well, why the heck not?
Donald Cozzens spoke tonight in Pleasantville, NY. The Church has changed even more since this 1999 conversation. Dramatically. The new church will be looking a lot different. http://votfwny.blogspot.com/
Peggy,To answer your question, do catholics under 45 see a difference between liberal and progressive: I would never had until this post. However, I see a huge difference between CWL and NCR, and so I understand what you mean by this distinction. Isn't part of it, though, that CWL has progressives and liberals writing for it, whereas NCR is having a conversation with itself?Just in case you doubt I'm under 45, you were my college commencement speaker! How long have you been doing those?
Just to get things straight: Cardinal George had the first word (he was invited by Commonweal to have the first word) and everyone else replied. So hearty souls who are going to delve into this, read him first.
Still not sure I understand the labels, but I would say liberal Catholicism is more dormant than dead. Some things I've noticed that might be on topic:1. Innovation is out, a return to "tradition" is in. Catholics seem to want to get rid of the liturgical dancing, the "new hymns," and ad-libbing the language of the Mass. They seem open to chants, some Latin, and facing the same way at the consecration. (I consider myself a liberal Catholic, and I'm for that.) I'd guess few Catholics want to return to everyday Latin Masses or see major rubric changes.2. Ecumenism is out, apologetics is in. Protestants (outside of my extended family, anyway) no longer believe Catholics worship statues or are automatons doing the bidding of the Pope-a-Rome, as he's referred to by my non-Catholic relatives. Ecumenical dialogue has gone about as far as it can go. Catholics have responded by turning to converts like Chesterton, Newman and Lewis (oops, he was an Anglican, but never mind), who articulated the Catholic difference (no Wiegel reference intended). I chatted with a couple of Catholic bookstore owners at the last couple of retreats I attended, and apologetics are selling like hotcakes. I'm not sure that all these free-lance apologists should be encouraged. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.3. Tolerance is out, orthodoxy is in. Most Catholics I know are sick of trying to be understanding of homosexuality, abortion, divorce and birth control. They don't want to hear arguments for women priests (not gonna happen in this lifetime, so find something else to do). There's certainly a "shape up or ship out" attitude.
The first time a guy called me a conservative Catholic I was shocked. But he insisted: I talked about doctrine. Only conservative Catholics talk about doctrine.I find the current pendulum swing unnerving, because it is too early to say whether this youthful fervor will grow out of its reactionary phase and its false nostalgia for the fifties, though I've noticed a change in anger levels (decreasing) just within the past few years. The young conservatives I know spend their time working and playing, making friends, voliunteering, falling in love, discerning their vocations, etc. They're basically happy and concerned with virtue, and they're really very social.There was a panel discussion about the Pope at the JPII Cultural Center right before his visit, with Archbishop Sambi, Msgr. Giuliani and John Allen. The auditorium was packed. There were less than a dozen gray heads--I actually counted 5 but couldn't quite see everybody. Anyone who has been to a Common Ground lecture would note the contrast.
Jean, what you have noticed may be geographic. Details might help. And kathy, I would like to see evidence of a pendulum swing. We had thirty thousand youths here at Dunwoodie in Yonkers for the pope. There was little evidence that this was indication of any change or movement. Basically they were rounded up, bribed and cajole to suffer mostly in boredom except when the cameras were on them.Getting back to the liberal/progressive/conservative discussion, there is so much to digest. I did like Peter Steinfels description. It reminds me of his book: "A People Adrift." He describes the problem very well but he has no idea how to solve it. Maybe it can't be solved.
KathyAll Catholics are conservative. They want to be true to the teachings of Scripture and to faithful to the revelation that is the Incarnate Word. But it is quite compatible with this conservatism that one be also liberal in the sense of expecting free and fair inquiry when questions are raised. The Church is both divine and human, just as Scripture is a collection of books ("Biblia" is a plural) both divine and human. There is a sort of, say, dull-witted conservatism that is wholly focused on the divine and imagines that nothing has ever changed--or ought to have--and correspondingly an empty-headed liberalism that is wholly focused on the human and thinks that everything can be changed. There is a middle way and there lies virtue.
JeanCan you explain why it is good that all face one way? I though that the Holy Spirit was the one who effects the consecration and he was sent to dwell in all who believe in Christ, i.e., all of us. Or have I misread the Good News according to John?
Joseph, I didn't say I thought facing away from the congregants was "good," only that I'm partial to it from the old days in our Anglo-Catholic parish. I'm also partial to a communion rail, kneeling at communion, RED wine in the cup, and NO gee-tars, bongo drums, hymns written after 1845 or handholding and hugging.When I attend Catholic Mass, however, I follow the prescribed rubrics, sing the songs listed (I've even learned to stop rolling my eyes at "Taste and See") and stand when everybody receives.Bill, yes, these are only things I observe in my neck of the woods. I hope I made that clear.
Just to clarify my original post:I'm not making judgments about what's good or bad, conservative or liberal. And I also understand that Catholicism might look different in other parts of the country.I agree with Sean that catechesis is dreadful, and I would further suggest that there would be far fewer converts if those involved in RCIA required candidates to look more soberly at what is expected of them as Catholics. If you don't set the bar fairly high and be pretty strict and serious about it, you leave people struggling to discern whether their conversion was real years later and abandoning the whole enterprise entirely. I noted in another post that the drop-out rate at the local parish here is 90 percent. I did the math with my husband who has been involved with RCIA for several years, and it's true.I disagree with Sean's notions of tolerance. But we've been there before, so no need to rake over that old ground.
Jean Raber: "I would say liberal Catholicism is more dormant than dead." Peggy: Maybe it depends on where you live. There are parishes where it continues a lively presence and maybe a few dioceses. Beyond that professional associations of lay ministers seem to me of necessity to be at least modestly liberal if only because they have to make a living (wage) and they are professionals (with some non-clerical standards for doing their jobs). Universities seem mostly full of liberals, certainly the Catholics.Jean: "Innovation is out, a return to tradition is in. Catholics seem to want to get rid of the liturgical dancing, the new hymns, and ad-libbing the language of the Mass. They seem open to chants, some Latin, and facing the same way at the consecration. (I consider myself a liberal Catholic, and Im for that.) Id guess few Catholics want to return to everyday Latin Masses or see major rubric changes."Peggy: Innovation may be out but I don't see in my preceincts a return to "tradition," either the real one or the ersatz one that gets promoted by reactionaries. Liturgical dance can go (was that a liberal cause?). Some Greek (Kyrie), some Latin, but I notice that most people under 45 don't know it and don't sing it. Facing the same way at the Consecration? you mean priest and people facing East or what passes for East? Haven't seen it.Jean: "Ecumenism is out, apologetics is in."Peggy: Both in here. NY is by nature ecumenical, of necessity. And I was surprised at the keen student interest here in talks by John Haught about Darwin, Einstein, and Belief. They seemed to take great comfort in the compatability of the three. Jean: "Tolerance is out, orthodoxy is in. Most Catholics I know are sick of trying to be understanding of homosexuality, abortion, divorce and birth control. They dont want to hear arguments for women priests (not gonna happen in this lifetime, so find something else to do). Theres certainly a shape up or ship out attitude."Peggy: Don't see it quite this way here. People may be tired of the arguments (or some may be) but I would say except for abortion, people are most or less tolerant or supportive of the rest. Perhaps more people just ship on their own, but not because they're told to shape up.So is liberal Catholicism dormant, dead, tired, or out there like yeast?
I think Jeans observations are generally true, and if it is out there like yeast, it is pretty old yeast and not likely to leaven very well. The reality I have seen over the last decade is that the conservative or orthodox movement is generally younger. This is true both in the laity and among religious particularly women religious. I think this, more than anything is going to lead to the demise of Liberal Catholicism. I disagree, however, that tolerance is out. I think a better description, from the perspective on the other side is that rejecting forced acceptance is in. To tolerate something, one must first identify it as objectionable. As to some of the issues you identified, what is rejected is the insistence that people not just tolerate or bear things but accept and embrace them.As to apologetics, I think that has less to do with rejection of ecumenism and more to do with the miserable job of catechesis that was done in the US during the decades after V II. I and others I know who are the ones scooping up those books Jean mentions do so to learn more about our faith than anything else. Besides, what has passed for ecumenism in the past isnt dialogue, but stripped down Christianity which usually means non-denominational Protestantism.I dont know about Dunwoodie, but I was at the Mass in Yankee Stadium, and despite cold, windy, and crowded conditions people were truly in a joyful mood. There were a lot of young people there, and they sure didnt look bored to me.
Peggy,Sorry, got the order wrong as I was trying to get the links straight. In any case, if they can get through to Peter's piece, they can link through to George.
First, if Diogenes says liberal Catholicism is a "lifeless dummy," Diogenes is certainly not lifeless...Jean, I don't see us moving more to tradition but to "retrenchment" on the official side of the house.Yet the differences are somewhat a matter of location. Here's an example:On Saturday I played in a bridge tournament in Santa Fe wherethey announced there new complex would be named after the long time rabbi of Santa Fe, Len Helman -once also a world class bridge player and much loved by all.The next day in the Santa Fe paper, a sweet op-ed by the same Len Helman appeared, praising the working together of faiths in the community there. He recalled that as a metter of piety, he attended Midnight Mass at the cathedral each year and was warmly greeted by the Archbishop and the Rector. he saw Benedict's visit as a kindly old pastor -a kind of contemporary churchman reaching out.Here in Los Alamos. 40 miles away, ecumenism is almost if not dead. Christian Unity was never mentioned during Christian Unity week -what mattered was perpetual adoration.Another example is Pax Christi; PC New Mexico with strong roots in Santa Fe is musch beholden to Fr, John Dear who is literally detested by our JPII priest (retired military man) and many of his followers.I wonder what will happen when they bring Helen Prejean here to speak this year?So I see Commonweal as a magazine that attempts to give sophisticated discussion to the hard or complex issues of the day as opposed to those Catholic publications that offer only the TRUTH or, like NCR, have an unabashedly liveral bent.Sorry, Peg, but I'd say the editorial policy tends to be moderately progressive, though I'm quite unhappy with all the semantics here.So i laughed when Kathy said she was shocked shen she was called a conservative - I'd have never have though that - reactionary would be the adjective I'd use, bu tthat shows the semantic tangle
I admire Fr. Reese, and often agree with what he says, but not in this case. I don't think that the Pope's visit changed anything. A brief media frenzy has rendered otherwise sensible people mesmerized. It will blow over quickly and be forgotten. And the Pope's outreach to survivors of clerical sexual abuse, while welcome, cost him nothing. It was a decent gesture, but he let the American Bishops off with the lightest of wrist-slaps. It was not only the Bishops who "handled the matter badly"; it was the Vatican. The initial coverup of the Maciel business happened on his watch at the CDF and his failure as Pope to have a full disclosure of the outcome of the inquiry into the charges against Maciel has left those who brought the charges in limbo while allowing the Legion to continue to venerate the memory of their disgraced founder. I don't think we have to worry about reform-minded Catholics running out of items on their to-do lists any day soon.
Susan, I think Fr. Tom Doyle, victim advocate extraordinairre, wrote a persptive piece on the Pope's visit, with some praise for a "changed" Benedict, but arguing more indeed has to happen and the ball is in the Bishops' court to do so, e.g. supporting SOL legislation and opening files.Sad to say, I don't think they will.
"professional associations of lay ministers seem to me of necessity to be at least modestly liberal if only because they have to make a living (wage) and they are professionals (with some non-clerical standards for doing their jobs). "My experience with professional lay ministers - and clerics - is that, as a whole, they are more liberal than the body of the faithful as a whole. Not sure what ths means: does a significant commitment to service make one more liberal? Are already-liberal people more attracted to a life of service? Is there something self-selecting about the process of recruiting and developing church professionals that excludes those who are more conservative?I know it's commonly believed among conservatives that exposing someone to American university life is to plant them in a hothouse of liberalism. Inasmuch as professional standards have been steadily rising among lay ministers in the church and it's not unusual for preparation/certification to take place in an academic environment, perhaps there is something about that interaction with academia that activates the liberal yeast in candidates?
"Commonweal has often been called a liberal Catholic magazine, but not a progressive onea distinction I maintain. Is it a distinction without a meaning? To those under 45?"I'm not quite under 45, but ... yes. What is the differennce? I've been trying to glean the difference from the conversation, but it's still eluding me.
Looks like we're all struggling with the semantics here as we try to figure out what we mean by the labels we use. It always reminds me of what Blake cautioned: "To generalize is to be an idiot," advice I need to follow more often.I do think labeling ideas or movements is one thing, but labeling people--Bob Nunz's calling Kathy a reactionary--should be out of bounds.Not that Kathy wants or needs my defense.
I'm late to this party, but I want to compliment Joseph Gannon on his 9:56 a.m. post from earlier today. I thought it was very insightful.
Jean,I deeply appreciate your kind words.And Joe Gannon's thoughtful post. Made me look up "biblia"--neuter plural indeed. But it's an unusual kind of plurality, I would think.
Peggy,Your definitions are interesting. I guess, though, I think of "liberal" as having a harder edge than "progressive." The terminology is tangled indeed.Cathy
I'm afraid that I find all this label discussion pretty uninformative. What i find distressing about the so-called conservative clergy that populates parishes etc. is that they seem to have no real grasp of good theology or good Scripture studies. I'd be plenty happy if they read the weekly Scripture piece in America by Fr. Harrington, for example. The preaching I usually hear show a dreadful ignorance about such things. It wouldn't be so bad if the so-called conservatives were willing to discuss doctrine seriously. Instead, they seem to practice what we used to call ipsedixitism, i.e., it's so, because I say it's so.Pope Benedict, however he's "classified." shows himself ready to offer reasons for what he says. I appreciate that he does so. I take it that we are called upon to consider this evidence seriously. None of this is a matter of "obedience." It's just truth-searching, a process that is never completely concluded about any non-Credal matter and that even is appropriate when trying to see the implications of the Credal formulations themselves.
Peter Phan claims that one can be a "Buddhist" Catholic. Would his belief in a quadinity rather than the Catholic Church's belief in the Blessed Trinity, make him a liberal or a progressive? Wouldn't Buddha have to convert and become part of the Body of Christ to make one a " Buddhist" Catholic? I suppose I simply don't get it.
Jean,Like I said - the tolerance comment is from a different perspective. Perhaps the best example deals with homosexuality - but it is similar for divorce. I believe I am tolerant. By tolerance, I mean that I belive, as the Church teaches, that homosexuality is morally wrong. I don't even think it is a particularly and uniquely sinful. In fact, there are many things, including things that I struggle with myself, that might be more problematic. I tolerate it in the sense that I don't think it is my business, or anyone else's, to condemn or persecute homosexual people. What I object to is the the idea that tolerance means that I am intolerant, and a bigot, if I don't accept the proposition that homosexuality in not sinful at all.
The only Way, is Christ's Way. The Truth is absolute. The Truth is consistent, yesterday, today and always. If we believe in Him, Christ, we are to conform our lives to His Truth. Christ has only one voice. He did not come to confuse us. Follow Him. Be Faithful to His Church. If you are not for Him you are against Him. To live a life of Virtue, one must follow His Way to Love.
Sean, thanks for that cogent explanation.Rather than try to impose labels on various types of Catholics, labels which seem to be falling apart here, perhaps it's fair to say that Catholics who sincerely try to live up to the teachings of the Church may also have different responses to activities the Church teaches are sins without putting labels on those Catholics.You don't want to be seen as intolerant because you believe homosexuality is a sin. I don't want to be seen as tolerant of abortion because I don't want to legislate against it.
Good idea Jean. No one should impose labels on anyone. The labels heterosexual and homosexual etc. are demeaning. Why use such terms to describe anyone? God only made Man and Woman. Homosexual sexual acts are demeaning because they do not respect the Sacredness and Dignity of Human Life and are not consistent with God's intention of Sexual Love. Sexual Love exists within the Sanctity of a Holy Marriage which is Blessed by Him, God. "What God Has Joined Together" (Direct quote from Christ) The document, " Theology of the Body", inspired by the Holy Spirit, through His chosen leader of His Church, at that period of Time, Holy John Paul 11, explains and defends the Truth about Sexual Love.
Jean,I don't follow your logic.I am tolerant of homosexuality because I would take no action, including outlawing homosexual behavior. But if we refuse to act against the horror of abortion, aren't we in fact tolerating it?I don't think the dispute is over tolerance, but approval. I think it is hard to argue that people who do not oppose abortion on demand tolerate it. I think they usually claim that that toleration does not equate to approval - frankly in exactly the same way my attitude about homosexual behavior, or divorce, or adultry is one of tolerance but not approval.That being said, I argue that Catholic doctrine, and indeed the natural law, do not allow us in justice to tolerate certain things - like murder, slavery, or rape - but rather require our active disputation. Abortion is one of those things because it involves the intentional and unjustified destruction of innocent human life - we are not permitted to tolerate that.
A friend who sometimes posts here says the answer to the original question here, "I Liberal Catholicism Dead?" is a simple YES. And in his neck of the woods (as in my parish) i it's certainly close to internment.But that's the area issue.He also said - and I found it important - that ecumenism is dead.Under the weight of the identity push, I see that happening too, as previously noted,What's problematic is if we really are concerned with the "new atheism" or Taylor's secularism in the Atlantic areas, moving towards more enclavism is unhelpful, both in terms of proclaiming belief in God here and in isolating ourselves more in the coming global shift.
Paul Moses stated on his post of May 5th, "even conservatives will assail the bishops when they disagree." It should be noted that some bishops are not in communion with the Pope.
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Paul Moses, a professor of journalism at Brooklyn College/CUNY, is the author of The Saint and the Sultan: The Crusades, Islam and Francis of Assisi's Mission of Peace (Doubleday, 2009).


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"Paula discussed what it was like during the Holocaust and her incredible journey of survival, love, forgiveness and tolerance," said a press release.
The students were inspired by Marks-Bolten's speech and started a fundraiser to donate to The Ruth Fajerman Markowicz Holocaust Resource Center of Jewish Federation of Greater Toledo. The center provides information, materials, workshops, speakers and scholarships to teachers, students and the general public, said the release.
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This year's Smoke at the Lodge barbecue competition is getting a boost of a national kind with BBQSuperStars.com planning live streaming of the event to The Food Channel Network's broadcast operation in Augusta, Georgia.
"They've (The Food Channel) kept us in the dark until Sunday night," said event spokesperson Bob Kuziak. "We're excited they're going to do this."
The Summerville Masons Lodge 234 is celebrating its 10th Smoke at the Lodge anniversary event by teaming with the Southern Barbecue Network and the World Food Championships to bring the unique competition to Summerville April 5-6.
A "No Pork" contest on April 5 will feature samples available from championship cooking teams. Dancers will have a chance to shake a leg and bend an ankle to the sounds of the Original Out of Towner's Band. The band will crank out beach and boogie tunes from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m.
Saturday morning starts "BBQ Day." Dinner plates will be available at the Summerville Mason's Lodge at 111 Main Street. Dinner plates are $7 and will be available from 11 a.m. – 5 p.m. All of the barbecue will be prepared by the competitors in the BBQ contest.
Smoke at the Lodge is the only contest in the Lowcountry that will generate an automatic bid to the World Food Championships in Las Vegas in October.
SBN will designate the Grand Champion from Smoke at the Lodge as an automatic bid to the World Food Championships in Las Vegas. The WCF event features a BBQ contest as one of seven cooking contests with category winners competing for one of the largest prize purses in competitive cooking.
"Proceeds from Smoke at the Lodge will help folks in need right here in Flowertown. The Masonic Lodge needs your help," said event spokesperson Bob Kuziak.
"Please support this worthy cause."
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In 1947 General Motors first unveiled the streamlined F3 diesel locomotive. Just one year later, Lionel introduced its own version of this famous engine, the first diesel Lionel ever gambled to manufacture. One of the company's most memorable and best-selling locomotives ever, the Lionel F3 remained in the line until 1966.
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Thursday, April 25, 2013
The public gets its turn to voice an opinion about the long-awaited Delemar Highway widening at a public information meeting May 2.
Dennis Corporation, which won the contract to widen the road to Ashley Ridge High School, is leading a meeting from 5 to 7 p.m. at the high school.
Project Manager Kally McCormick said the company would present renderings of the project as proposed and an aerial view of the full two miles of the project showing how it will affect the existing landscape.
There will also be staff members available to answer questions about the design and environmental impact, she said.
Public comments are very important, McCormick said, especially substantive ones.
"We are at the preliminary phase of design and the County is open to comments of any type relating to any element of the road improvements. This is a great time for members of the public to inform the County and project team of ANY concern they have," she said in an email.
All comments will be reviewed to see if changes can be made, she said.
Plans call for widening S.C. 165, also called Delemar Highway, to five lanes from the current two.
School and county leaders have called the road the most dangerous in the county, as it's essentially an old country lane that has become a busy thoroughfare since the high school opened in 2008.
At the time of construction, officials were told the state would help fund a road widening, but money dried up in the recession.
In February 2012, the S.C. Transportation Infrastructure Bank Board awarded the county $13 million to widen the road between the high school and Cooks Crossroads.
The county has already started widening S.C. 165 beyond Cooks Crossroads, where it's known as Bacons Bridge Road, with money from the 1 percent sales tax dedicated to roads.
State and county leaders celebrated a road groundbreaking in January at the high school.
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This flower cz vintage style ring is very elegant. The pretty diamond cz flowers circle around the ring on a vine inside of an antique style band. The silver band measures 1/2 inch wide. If you looking for a victorian style ring, this vintage flower cz sterling silver ring will make ther perfect choice for that special occasion.
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Wild West Cowboy Toddler Bedding set will help you create an incredible room for your child. This western themed boy bedding set combines JoJo Designs exclusive cowboy print, cow print, red bandanna print, plaid, denim, and micro suede in a patchwork construction. The detailed embroidered horseshoes and sheriff stars finish the look perfectly. This collection uses the stylish colors of Red, Chocolate Brown, Camel, Blue and Gold. The design uses 100% cotton fabrics combined with micro suede fabrics that are machine washable for easy care. This wonderful set will fit all crib and toddler beds.
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This unit will provide students with an understanding of human nutrient requirements and how these are met through the digestion, absorption and metabolism of food. Content covers the major macronutrients of carbohydrates, lipids and proteins; nutrient transport and storage; energy use by the human body, and control of energy balance. The importance of micronutrients in normal cell functioning; building bones; allowing enzymes, muscles and nerves to function and water balance and electrolyte regulation will be covered with attention paid to the health consequences of micronutrient deficiencies.
Assignment (1500 words, 1 minute multimedia presentation) 30%, weekly cloud (online) multiple-choice questions 20%, examination (2 hours) 50%
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Whitney E, Rolfes SR, Crowe T, Cameron-Smith D, Walsh A. Understanding Nutrition: Australian and New Zealand edition, 2nd edn, Cengage Learning, Australia. 2014. ISBN 9780170222853. RRP through the publisher $134.95
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Color:A comfortable, stylish staple, our popular Miller 2 Sandal — in a sophisticated snake print and finished with a gleaming gold logo medallion — goes with just about anything in your wardrobe. It's an effortlessly polished alternative to the basic flip-flop.
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Grab these things before tackling your bead mess
Had I had some direction before beginning my journey to the perfect beading area, I would have grabbed some supplies before I started. But since I just jumped right into it, I found myself using a few items over and over again. Should you decide to take on your own bead area project, this is a list of things I found it was handy to have nearby. [Read More]
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(November 14, 2012) -- College football returns to Copperas Cove Bulldawg Stadium on Saturday, December 1 as the 12th-annual C.H.A.M.P.S. Heart of Texas Bowl features fifth-ranked Navarro College Bulldogs against the 20th-ranked Georgia Military College Bulldogs.
The game kicks off at 11:00 a.m.
At 7:00 p.m., the McMurry University War Hawks take on the Southern Arkansas Muleriders.
Copperas Cove ISD Athletic Director Jack Welch says the Bowl Week serves two purposes.
"One, it helps to promote tourism in Copperas Cove, getting people to eat in our restaurants and stay in our hotels, while getting to watch great college football," he said. "Two, it helps us to promote the work of CHAMPS, to get the message out to our kids about living a drug and alcohol-free life, plus it lets our football players watch college football and see the many college coaches who come to watch the game."
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This program is offered at the main campus in Allegany and at the Buffalo Center in Hamburg.
Upon successful completion of this degree, and 12 months of acceptable employment experience supervised by a certified rehabilitation counselor (CRC), graduates may apply to take the CRC examination [Category B]. Specific details are located on the CRCC website, under eligibility requirements.
Students in this program wishing to also obtain a school or mental health counseling credential should consult with their adviser.
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Branch out! This fun swirly branch wall decal works either as its own design, or as a companion piece to our Scroll Tree MegaPack. Each pack includes a large brown branch, patterned leaves, and a few friendly forest friends. Use it to add life and color to a nursery or child's bedroom, or attach it to your existing Scroll Tree to make your design even bigger! Every element is fully removable and reusable, and can be moved around countless times without peeling away the paint.
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If you need simple, basic furniture that's practical, versatile, and good for the environment, Way Basics is for you. Our zBoards are easy to put together, sustainably made and completely recyclable. Buy them in pre-designed kits. Or go your own way, and use zBoards as inspiration to invent custom designs and build something new into your life.
With the Way Basics Tribeca Bookcase, you can store books and toys or display photos, a collection of trophies, or baby's trinkets. Position the divider boards anywhere you'd like to create a unique storage unit that suits your style.
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USDA Proposes to Allow Importation of Beef from Specific Brazilian States
WASHINGTON, Dec. 20, 2013--The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS) is proposing to amend its regulations to allow, under certain conditions, the importation of fresh beef from specific Brazilian states. Earlier in the week, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and Brazil's Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock, and Food Supply (MAPA) issued a joint statement affirming their mutual commitment to science-based rulemaking and announcing both countries agreed to a path forward to address rules that currently limit bilateral beef trade.
Supporting documents and any comments we receive on this docket may be viewed at www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=APHIS-2009-0017 or in our reading room, which is located in room 1141 of the USDA South Building, 14th Street and Independence Ave., SW., Washington, DC, between 8 a.m. and 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday, excluding holidays. To facilitate entry into the comment reading room, please call (202) 690-2817.
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Flowers have always held a serene quality that we find beautiful, and these sterling silver pave CZ daisy dangle earrings are no exception! Each flower measures 1/2 inch tall, with pave set CZs in the center. The fish hook style posts mean these earrings hang a full inch in length. Pair these with the matching pendant for a cheery look that will lighten your mood, and outfit, even on the darkest day.
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This Solid Heart Swarovski Crystal Couples Ring is set in beautiful sterling silver. This couples ring is perfect to personalize with both of your birthstones. This silver heart ring can also be used as a mother's ring or a grandmother's ring if there are two children. Customize this silver couple's heart ring with your choice of 12 Swarovski Crystal birthstones. She will treasure this couples ring for years to come!
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(Release: February 11, 2013) - Several students from Hagerstown Community College spent the day in Annapolis on Wed., Feb. 6 to participate in Student Advocacy Day, organized through the Maryland Association of Community Colleges. During their visit, students had the opportunity to meet with members of the Western Maryland legislative delegation, including Senator Chris Shank, Delegate Andrew Serafini, and Delegate LeRoy Myers.
"Our trip to Student Advocacy Day was quite exciting. In between our meetings with delegates concerning community college support and higher education, we were witness to numerous demonstrations regarding firearms," said Rick Howe, vice president of HCC's Student Government Association. "Seeing so many citizens from both sides of the issue involved in the legislative process was great. I just wish more people had the same passion for education issues."
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Some but I don't know how many. There's a list online somewhere. Not even all Wii games do 16:9 believe it or not. Here's a trick (don't know if it applies when USB Loading) hold B on the GC remote when starting a game, this sometimes will give a "secret" option to activate progressive mode. I don't know if that will put it in 16:9 as well.Originally Posted by cwjakesteel
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I believe it would be just before the intro screens appear, but from what I've read if you're playing on Wii the system automatically gives you the prompt if you set the Wii to 480p and, of course, have component cables.Originally Posted by cwjakesteel
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I never new the Wii was capable of higher graphics than composite cables. I mean, I can get Wii games up to 1080p on Dolphin on my computer, so that means the graphics on the game itself are pretty much perfect. Does the Wii handle those components alright? Cause I wouldn't mind losing the eyesore that is Metal Gear Solid and Metroid Other M, which requires squinting.
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Oh yeah, Monster component cables are one of the best things to get for Wii. Looks much better IMO.Originally Posted by cwjakesteel
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Just read through this thread, and I seem to be an outlier in that my issue with DIOS MIOS is the retail gamecube game in the drive being booted instead of the backup from USB.
I believe I've installed it correctly: DIOS MIOS 2.2 downloaded on 7/18, installed via WAD Manager under 249, d2x from hacking my Wii by following mauifrog's guide just a week and a half ago (Neogamma's been working perfectly fine), modded/beta version of USB Loader GX posted in this thread (ran from HBC), using a FAT32 32kb-cluster 16GB SanDisk flash drive formatted with EASEUS, retail disc in the drive. However, obviously, since it's not working (and my relative newness to Wii hacking), I can't say with 100% certainty.
GX recognizes my Twin Snakes backup from USB and hands it to DM without asking about SD cards, I see the DIOS MIOS splash screen... and Luigi's Manson asks me if I want to display in progressive mode. :/
I don't understand why it would be an issue, but I'll try to dig out my old composite cable in case the switch to GC 480p 'mode' could be causing it. In the meantime, if someone has a more reasonable idea why I'm getting a vacuum-wielding Italian rather than a neck-snapping special agent, I'd appreciate hearing it.
2.2 is a dud, use 2.1. Also try ejecting your disc and turning on the "no disc" option instead. Having the 480p mode set with component cables wouldn't cause that error nor would your d2x version (though I would recommend using v8 Final if you don't already have it). You may also want to try re-ripping your Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes disc(s) (I suggest CleanRip 1.0.5 for that) or reinstalling DIOS MIOS 2.1 using with IOS236 (249 is recommended by the guide and it works but I used 236 and have no issues so it is a fine alternative). Just some suggestions, can't hurt to try them. And lastly, double check that you've formatted the game ISO correctly and set the proper path as instructed by the guide.Originally Posted by ibm2431
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I too am having strange issues with the newer build 2.2 of DM. I can say even 2.1 is giving me issues and can't find any game that boots in DM booter with widescreen implemented or what combination (forced video , 480p w/ widescreen enabled etc) works.. Better go, ambien kicking in...
Anyone get widescreen hack to work and with what? Did your Wii slow down?
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I'll have to take your word on that lol, I've never seen any anamorphic games lol. The only widescreen and resolution factors I know for certain Wii and GC are capable of is 4:3 and 16:9 ratios with 480i/p resolution.Originally Posted by thevoiceover
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matches the expected sum on redump, so I think it's a clean rip. Ran it through DiscEx as the guide said, and set up the path as described.
I wasn't even aware there was a d2x v8; I'll grab it. >.>
I'm having difficulty finding a 2.0 or 2.1 version of DM - only version on the project page now is 2.2. Could someone throw their 2.0 WAD up somewhere? I've discovered a thread on GBAtemp with two people having the same problem as me, which was fixed with a simple downgrade. I'm hoping it's just 2.2 being a dud.


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A new business is scheduled to open in downtown Aiken later this month. Aiken Country Clothiers will be located at 110 Laurens Street in the storefront formerly occupied by Lee's Bags & Jewelry.
"Aiken Country Clothiers will be part of the Nobel Nielsen company," said Elisabeth Plaskitt, who heads Nobel Nielsen and will run the new store.
Aiken Country Clothiers will offer women's clothing, shoes and accessories. Men's accessories also will be sold, and Plaskitt wants to add men's clothing from England in the future.
While planning Aiken Country Clothiers, Plaskitt concentrated on finding items that weren't offered anywhere else in the city.
"I'll have a line of Italian loafers that actually are sold in London; I'll be the only one selling them in the United States," said Plaskitt in a telephone interview Monday. "Flats are the mainstay of the line. They're very soft and very comfortable, and they come in sizes 5 to 13. I'll also carry a line of crocodile handbags that I will be able to do special orders for in different colors."
In addition, Aiken Country Clothiers will offer the Needham Lane and April Cornell clothing lines.
"In the fall, I'm going to be bringing in a lot of tweeds and that sort of genre of clothing," Plaskitt said.
Products in a variety of price ranges will be available and the store also will carry plus size apparel.
"Along with the crocodile handbags, I'll sell inexpensive vegan handbags," Plaskitt said. "In the clothing lines, there could be anything from a $15 summertime shirt to a $200 shirt from England."
Plaskitt operated Nobel Nielsen Shoes in Middleburg, Va., from November 2007 through May 2012. A number of the goods at Aiken Country Clothiers will be similar to those offered at Plaskitt's former shop. However the establishment of the new store "will allow me to expand and do some different things," Plaskitt said. "It's been a fun process."
Plaskitt has a mobile merchandising venture that she will continue to run. She travels to horse shows, steeplechase events, flower shows and Christmas bazaars.
"Obviously, it will have some of the same things that will be in the new store, but it also will have items that I won't sell at Aiken Country Clothiers," Plaskitt said. "There will be a little bit of a different variety and the items will be geared to the event that I'm going to."
Plaskitt, who is originally from Upperville, Va., is looking for a place to live in Aiken. She decided to start a store here for several reasons.
"I have a lot of friends who are a part of the old Aiken," she said. "I've also had a lot of friends from Middleburg move down to Aiken. I looked at several different places to move to (for business reasons) and Aiken seemed like the most viable and had the most desirable demographics."
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Customer Favorite
Knitted striped fit-n-flare mini dress. Peter Pan cutout collar at front of neckline. Fitted waist. Cuffed sleeves with light pleating at shoulder seam. Keyhole at top of back with button detailing. An easy, everyday dress.
*100% Polyester
*Machine Wash Cold
Measurements for Size Small:
Length: 32 1/4"
Bust (all around): 33"
Waist (all around): 29"
Sleeve Length: 7 1/4"
*100% Polyester
*Machine Wash Cold
Measurements for Size Small:
Length: 32 1/4"
Bust (all around): 33"
Waist (all around): 29"
Sleeve Length: 7 1/4"
Rated 4.5 out of 5Â by 24 reviewers.
Rated 5 out of 5Â by LittleMissS Getting a second one I bought this dress in a small, after reviewing all the comments about how large it is going to be, I was kinda worried, but still think it is worth the shot. So I ordered anyway. The shipping was fast, and the dress was absolutely perfect on me. I decided to get the rose color as well(first one is a green). Very glad to find such beautiful piece in a such good price too. 7.31.2012
Rated 5 out of 5Â by queenboudica I love this dress. I'm 5'1" and 117 pounds, 38-26-36. I bought this in dusty rose in XS and it is adorable! From the pics, I expected a thicker knit like a sweater dress. Better yet, it's this thinner, dimpled blend that's unlike much of what you'd find in most stores nowadays ... almost like discovering something amazing and vintage in the back of your cooler grandmother's closet. It has a boho or hipster look on these skinny models, but if your measurements are more like mine it results in kind of a pinup look (definitely my preference). That was my tactful way of saying it makes your big bust look awesome. It does run larger, but I just followed the size chart and had no problem. A+ buy 4.26.2012
Rated 3 out of 5Â by JBar Super cute, but too short and too big I just tried this dress on at a local boutique that carries Free People. I was so excited when I first saw it! It's freakin' adorable, and it's the type of dress that I get a lot of wear out of. I tried on a size XS (for the record, I'm 5'8 and 120lbs), and at first I thought it was long enough... until I reached behind my neck to button the button, at which point I realized that it was wayyyyy too short (it rode up so much that it very nearly exposed my crotch). I was considering buying it anyway and just having it as one of those dresses that I would only wear when it isn't windy, but then I turned to the side, and it was totally hanging off of my back. What I mean is: looking at this dress (even on the model), it looks like it would be very fitting from the neck to the waist, and the seam in the middle of the dress should lie flat on your body. Unfortunately, on me, while it looked fitted from the front, on the back it was just hanging off of me. In order for it to be fitted enough, I would probably need an XXS (very unusual--I just bought the sleeveless miles of lace dress in an XS and it is definitely not too large at all). It was really cute though--if it weren't so short already, I would probably buy it and just belt it. The neckline is sickkk-- the little peter-pan cutouts are really flattering to your collarbones! 3.30.2012
Rated 5 out of 5Â by mikaelaaa Adorable ! I absolutely love this dress!! It was such a great buy! It fits perfectly and true to size. Before buying the dress I read most of the reviews and every one of them said size down but because they only had mediums and larges I decided to order the medium since it was the closest to my normal free people size which is a small. I am so happy I did because the dress is perfect! Its a great length too! BUY BUY BUY 1.2.2013
Rated 5 out of 5Â by ZooeyWombat Adorable and sexy! This dress is so much fun!! I got in on sale at my local FP for $29. I wear this with knee socks and platform wingtips. My husband says I look like a Japanese schoolgirl : ) The fabric is sheer (but not see-through) and will pull VERY easily; mine had several pulls in it when I purchased but couldn't resist the flattering styling. Great if you are into the whole 50's in the 90's look. Normally I wear a L or XL but easily wear a M in this dress. 9.11.2012
Rated 5 out of 5Â by freepeoplegurl77 Too cute! I bought this dress in the rose/black color and in the black/white. The dress is so cute and can be worn several different way, dressed up or down. Another great piece to be carried through the seasons. Runs a little large. Flattering to everyone. 7.7.2012
Rated 5 out of 5Â by wildeyedkid best FP purchase ever! wow wow wow! i am in love with this dress! i bought the dusty rose/ black in XS. I was hesitant at first to buy it, considering many said it ran large and fit them too big- however that wasn't the case with me. I am about 5'6 and weigh 142 lbs and it literally fits me perfectly. the dress hugs me in all the right places and it is very comfortable! very versatile dress as well. i can't wait to wear it later in the year when i attend shows/ music festivals in the fall. Best purchase from FP by far! 6.26.2012
Rated 5 out of 5Â by xmmx91 Cutest little dress This dress is adorable. As others reviewers mentioned it is quite roomy so I would size down. The neck detailing is absolutely adorable, I wore this for an Easter Party and it's such a cute and versatile dress. 6.22.2012
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High court affirms sentence in Bethel deathBy WILSON RING
THE Associated Press | June 22,2013MONTPELIER Vermonts highest court affirmed a minimum 14-year prison sentence Friday for a man convicted in the 2004 death of his ex-wife, rejecting his claims that he should have been allowed to testify about her propensity for violence.
In its decision, the Vermont Supreme Court affirmed a lower courts sentence of William Al Kimmick and said that court had heard sufficient details about how Kathryn Kimmick was prone to alcohol-fueled violent outbursts.
The lower court expressly recognized that petitioner had committed the offense while the victim was drunk and armed with a knife, and that theirs had been a particularly volatile relationship, the Supreme Court wrote.
But the lower court rejected that was reason enough for a lighter sentence and criticized Kimmick for appearing to blame the victim, the ruling said.
The Supreme Court ruling came as part of a response to a petition that Kimmick, now 44, had filed. He had argued that his attorney provided ineffective legal advice because the attorney would not allow Kimmick to testify about his wifes behavior.
The body of Kathryn Kimmick, 41, was found frozen in a car outside her Bethel apartment on Jan. 23, 2004. It was estimated she had died three days before. An autopsy found she died of a blow, or blows, to the head. William Kimmick has said she attacked him with a knife beforehand.
William Kimmick fled to Taiwan after her death, but he surrendered to authorities there after his passport was revoked and returned to the United States.
Kimmick was charged with second-degree murder, but in the fall of 2004 he agreed to plead guilty to a reduced charge of involuntary manslaughter.
In 2007, the Supreme Court upheld his conviction.
The next year, acting as his own lawyer, Kimmick filed the petition, arguing his attorney threatened to withdraw from the case if Kimmick testified about his late ex-wifes history of violence.
Kimmick is being held at the Northern State Correctional Facility in Newport. He is scheduled for release in 2018.MORE IN This Just InBy Kathleen Phalen Tomaselli Full StoryBennington College and Middlebury College both top a list for most entrepreneurial colleges in... Full StoryWas the response to an alleged assault at College of St. Full Story
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So glad the appointment went well and the NP was understanding. I'm crossing all crossables you make all your milestones! One day and one milestone at a time.
While off work I do recommend keeping yourself a clear schedule. I was on modified bedrest for 7 weeks with our 2nd, and I might have gone insane if not for keeping to a to do list of things to get done, and a time to do them by. It really helped to keep my brain moving forward and out of panic mode too.
Keep the updates coming!


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Commonly referred to as the "River City by the Sea," Jacksonville hosts a variety of hotel options — whether you are traveling for business, pleasure, family adventure or just some serious R&R. From luxury beachfront resorts, trendy boutique inns, comfortable bed and breakfasts, family-friendly or budget lodging, there are accommodations available to suit every traveler's taste.
Jacksonville is a unique and desirable destination due to its location. With miles of gorgeous beaches on one side and the beautiful and serene St. Johns River winding its way through the city, this city is truly a water lover's paradise.
For those seeking the "beach experience" or just to spend time gazing at the amazing waters of the Atlantic Ocean, there are numerous hotels near the beach. Relax on the beach, unwind at the spa or perhaps play a few rounds of golf at one of the upscale resorts located on the beach. If you are seeking a bit more adventure and less time in your room, you may prefer one of the more affordable, yet comfortable beachfront hotels that are available as well.
Downtown Jacksonville is also host to many hotels. Take advantage of hotels near fabulous shopping, nightlife and incredible cuisine or settle in along the calm waters of the St. Johns River and Intracoastal Waterway – the choice is yours.
Hotels in Jacksonville
There's nothing quite like a vacation in Jax! Browse Travelocity to compare prices, reviews, and ratings of hotels in Jacksonville, FL. Whether you're looking to surf every day, go golfing, or just soak up the local culture of the city, you can find Jacksonville hotels that fit your itinerary. You can stay at a beach, an upscale resort, or a convenient hotel downtown. In Jacksonville, FL, hotels can be found based both on your budget and on what you're looking to do in the area. Find the right deal with Travelocity today.
Surfs Up
For example, if you want to lounge on a crystal beach, look for Jacksonville hotels near the three main public beaches: Atlantic Beach, Jacksonville Beach, and Ponte Vedra Beach. With approximately 22 miles of beaches and the beautiful St. John's River, there are plenty of places where you can catch the perfect wave. Take a selfie in front of the Friendship Fountain, or just take a photo of your toes while basking in the sun. Get active on the ocean by going on an eco-tour and exploring the region by kayak with Kayak Amelia. You can take a tour exploring Talbot Island State Park, while sandbar hopping, or during the sunset hours. If surfing is more your style, take lessons with Jax Surf & Paddle. With them, you can also go stand-up paddleboarding on calmer waters.
It's Tee Time
In addition to offering economy, cheap hotels in Jacksonville, FL, on Travelocity, you can also find upscale hotels and resorts; many of which feature excellent golf courses. Golf fans will want to go to TPC Sawgrass, home of the Players Championship, and part of the PGA tour. It's one of the most world-famous and recognizable golf courses in the world, and you can play there too. Book far in advance, though, as it's a favorite activity of many visitors. Watch that par-3, 17th hole... it's a doozy. Many other excellent and beautiful golf courses pepper the landscape of Jax. Check out the Raven Golf Club at Sandestin or the Southwood Golf Club.
Get Wild
If you're traveling with kids, plan on visit the local zoos and wildlife sanctuaries in the area. Jacksonville has a strong culture of conservation, which is great for teaching children and adults about wildlife, the environment, and ecological responsibility. Any big cat fan should stop by the Catty Shack Ranch Wildlife Sanctuary, which houses lions, cougars, leopards, tigers, bobcats, foxes, and coatimundis, many of which are endangered. Take a tour and learn about why we should protect these magnificent creatures. Also near Jacksonville is a conservation effort for our winged friends. Attend a class at B.E.A.K.S. (Bird Emergency Aid & Kare Sanctuary) to learn about how to take care of injured wild birds and wildlife. To learn about many different species of animals in one place, visit the large and comprehensive Jacksonville Zoo and Gardens.
Stay Classy, J-Ville
There are plenty of things to do in this area beside beach-hopping. Wander to one of the many museums and galleries should it rain. You could journey to The Cummer Museum of Art & Gardens, for example, which not only houses a gorgeous garden but a fine art gallery. Join the Jacksonville Downtown ArtWalk, which takes place on the first Wednesday of every month, rain or shine. You'll be able to visit many galleries and local artisans, and get a real taste of the art culture of the area. Also on a rainy day, you could attend a film at Sun Ray Cinema, enjoy excellent dinner theater at Alhambra Theatre & Dining, or have a musical night out with the Jacksonville Symphony Orchestra.
Catch Cool Events
As a cultural hot-spot, Jax hosts a number of fun and interesting events, including the Jacksonville Jazz Festival and the World of Nations Celebration in the spring. In October, there's the NAS Jax Air Show, which is an exciting display from local performers and military fliers, including the U.S. Navy Blue Angels. If you're planning on visiting in the area during the spring or fall, definitely check out these main events. At any point of the year, you can check out the events happening at the Florida Theatre when planning your trip. You can always visit the Riverside Arts Market, which happens every Saturday and has attracted nearly half a million visitors. It brings art, performances, music, food, and treasures in one place. Sports fans should definitely plan to visit during a Jacksonville Jaguars Game, as well.
Get a Taste of Jacksonville
Tasty treats can be found everywhere in Jacksonville, FL. The city has a wide array of breweries, southern restaurants, seafood places, and bakeries. Get out and explore them for a true taste of local cuisine! The Jax Brew Bus gives you the opportunity to tour local breweries and taste the great many flavors of beers that the city can offer. If you want to go where the locals go, visit local favorites like Maple Street Biscuit Company or Sweet Theory Baking Co. Jax has many great restaurants, from Fionn MacCool's to Restaurant Orsay to the Black Sheep Restaurant to bb's Restaurant to The Blue Fish Restaurant and Oyster Bar.
Sink Your Toes in the Sands Today
Take the time to plan your trip as you're looking at hotels. Jacksonville, FL, is cool in the winter months, with averages of 40-60 degree weather November through February. Luckily, the area is most often missed by hurricanes; however, know that the season usually lasts between June and November. Thunderstorms are fairly predictable and often pass quickly. Some of the best times to book a hotel would be in April, May, September, and October. The summer months are hot, and tend to be the peak travel season. Note that you can also find vacation packages while booking with Travelocity. Bundle your flight with your hotel stay and a car rental to get a cheaper deal. You'll be able to enjoy the sun, the sand, and the savings! Book your hotel stay with Travelocity and find the best deals online now.