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Absolutely not.
Honestly, I'm glad we (finally) get an MMO that requires some actual thought when it comes to combat. Most don't. I understand the divide, though.
The trinity system is easy. Extremely easy. It requires minimal thought, if any, and anyone can jump into it and do fine right off the bat. (WoW has proven this). Many people are comfortable with taking the most obvious path of least resistance in games.
Personally, it kind of saddens me how many people are stuck on the trinity model. Not only do they not see anything else, they refuse to believe it's even possible. This is all inspite of the model only existing in MMOs, and yet there being no real reason for it. I love how in GW2 I can jump in with any combination of classes (and I've done some of the hardest content with most class combinations), and all it takes is a quick bit of planning / coordination and amazing things start to happen. I love being able to discover the best way of tackling content, rather than having it handed to me on a silver platter and having to wait for people to magically fill the roles no one really wants to do.
MMOs have been stuck in a trinity rut for over a decade. As long as people are too unwilling to step outside their comfort zone to try something new, that won't change. I think it's about time we had something different.
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Yes and no to your question.
No, I don't completely miss the trinity. I loved City of Heroes and their defender approach was an awesome alternative to a spambot healer. Yes, you still needed tank/dps/denfender int CoH. I just wish some other game, like GW2, would have used there alternatives to strict healing. The closet thing in GW2 is probably an Elementalist that focuses on Chills and Blinds ( D/F build which is what I'm trying to play.) Storm Defenders and Kinetics Defenders were amazing healer alternatives in CoH teams (knock back auras, negative accuracy auras, knockdown ice slicks.) I remember when the game came out and everyone thought you needed an Empath healer to do content. Slowly they learned the benefits other Defenders could bring. I feel GW2 is mostly missing this feeling. Instead of giving an alternative to strict healing, they just sprinkled around heals on every class.
Yes, I miss the coordination. I'm also with on you on mobs with insane health and 1 hit kills. I fought some cave harpy that casts lava fonts that did 1.5 times my total health in damage. We had about 15 people there and it was just a cluster fudge. There was a telegraphed circle about 1 sec before the actual spell hit. If you were in the middle of the circle, you died. You didn't have time to dodge far enough away to survive. That's not a fun fight. It's a boring fight. The boss has one main attack that kills you if your hit. The only strategy is run in circles for 10 minutes while you slowly work down the insane amounts of hp she has.
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The problem is there is nothing different in GW2 dungeon system than other mmorpgs, besides:
The game still have healers and dps. Utility is still there in all other games as well. Healing is just spread to everyone instead of being the responsibility of one person. And everyone is a lot tougher than in other games, plus you get the invulnerability dogde perk.
Really, the game is build around dynamic events and WvW. It's also build around the common denominator, aka everyone being dps as primary. Dungeons obviously suffer due to this, but not much once you overgear them.
Originally posted by aesperus
I wouldn't say I am stuck on it and can't see anything else. I was looking forward to another system. But now after playing for a while and having a blast with Guild Wars 2 I just question if this particular change is a change for the better. There might be a better system out there then the trinity, most definitely there is, but the way dungeons in GW2 play and feel, I think this one is not. It works perfectly for PVP, and I would say on the battlefields this is btter than a trinity based approach, but in the dungeons, I just think the classic model was more fun to play with.
Two of my favorite "roles" in MMO's are tanking and healing. So yeah, I kind of miss the trinity thing. DPS just feels so simplistic to me. Especially in this game where you spend most of your time just zerging around randomly.
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Joined: 12/03/11
ArenaNet haven't removed the holy trinity of tanking damage, healing damage, and dealing damage in Guild Wars 2. They consolidated it. Everyone can tank, everyone can heal, and everyone can nuke.
Nope,the holy trinity dispite ArenaNets claims is alive and kicking in GW2.
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Originally posted by Zikari
I did read what you said, and I kinda understand you, but I wouldnt want to stick with the trinity in every game just because it's familiar and comfortable, since that's essentially what is so great about it. What I've seen and heard a lot is this "everyone for themself" which is a poor way of doing instance, there are many support abilities and better yet combos that people could do.
I did Ascalonian Catacombs story mode with the everyone for themself mentality, it was doable but a bit tricky at parts, and gave me a good idea of how hard explorable will be without boon rotations and no support, propably not doable. So yeah, it really needs a team effort to make it go smooth, and because people dont understand fully and are yet not so good with this new model it seems worse.
However trinity is better for pugs at least in the start for the very reason you mentioned, everyone kinda knows their place in the run before anyone says anything. Gw2 feels more like a game where you need team speak for even pugs because it's very hard to make effectively combos and such with random people with just chatbox.
Trinity is more simple thus easier, no need to coordinate anything, I dare to say that trinity is actually more "everyone for themself" since the role you have with trinity system really requires no communication, where combos and support spells do, when people tend to ignore combo possibilities and dodge roll out of your heal.
Will it be just a matter of getting used to it? I sure hope so, but I'm not sure if that's simply the case.
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imo the trinity needs to be expanded, not consolidated.
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Originally posted by Nitth
I agree.
Originally posted by Sylvarii
True, but having 5 more or less independent part time healer, part time tank, part time dps -ers trying to bring a boss down while trying to synergize their abilities does make dngeon play simply more chaotic than anything else. I see less group play than in other games, as in actually playing your characters strenght to support the group.
Originally posted by Zikari
No, I don't, because we still have the trinity in so many other games anytime I want to go play them: WoW, Rift, TSW, etc.
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Joined: 10/28/11
Dont miss tank-healer-dps segregation at all. All it does is lower the potential of groups and your skillcap. It's a flawed mechanic both mechanic-wise (as it forces you into a role instead of allowing you to find it out yourself how you can benefit your group most) and immersion-wise (its stupid how state of your health becomes a simple vessel, which has liquid being poured into by some players and drained by monsters, its even more stupid how the enemies are dumbest asses ever, attacking the least preferred target - the one that is hardest to kill but does no real damage to them).
I think GW2 is the step in right direction. Not to say they hit hte nail in the head and made THE BEST SYSTEM EVAH, but its a start. You can go on from there. But segregation into set roles of heal, tank, dps has to go.
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Originally posted by Zikari
I wasn't trying to say that you, specifically, were; however a lot of people are. It shows both in their playstyle and criticisms about the game. I hear you in quesitoning whether or not this is necessarily 'the best way', but I'd also suggest that (if this trend actually picks up), there won't necessarily be a 'best way' for a while. Because the trinity is a very linear way of looking at MMO mechanics, and what Anet is doing is turning that into a much broader spectrum. Such a mindset allows for a lot of different approaches, and can result in many different types of non-trinity games.
As for dungeons, what exactly bothers you about the model? In a lot of ways it makes PvE feel a lot more like PvP. There will always be a difference, but the AI of the mobs makes PvE a lot more dynamic. The chaotic nature of it does take some getting used to, but I suppose it all comes down to if you'd rather be sitting in a Que for an hour, looking for a tank / healer, or would you rather jump in instantly, but risk having some unconventional fights.
Personally, I've had some of the most fun with the least likely setups. Full thief parties, wierd mixes of necros / mesmers / engineers; all way more fun than having some overly support-heavy guardian in the front spamming regen & block. I even found it quite enjoyable (and challenging) trying to tank as a squishy dps class sometimes.
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OP - it's nostalgia mainly.
Trinity system while not something bad is less complex in general, as you need to pay attention just for one thing. Green bars as healer, big boss/mobs as tank, rotation as dps. While simplicity isn't necessairly flaw, it wasn't the source of your fun. It was fitting the puzzle(heal, dps, tank) into dungeon design. So yeah I agree first clear of dungeon in trinity modle was darn satysfying. But after that, you got stuck in one old boring scheme, tank stays here, dps/healer here and off we go. It's shallow and it's BORING!
Not to mention biggest trinity flaw - blaming each other. Bad healer, bad tank, bad dps. While you can be still a bad player in GW2 it's harder to be ignorant and just put a blame on someone. You know when someone is not pulling their weight because they should do same things as you. Also this forces more cooperation and more friendliness then "L2P n00b" or "LFG XYZ dungeon, 56421+ GS , link achiev pls".
In GW2 everyone needs to pay attention to everything. You heal, buff, debuff, dps and tank mobs. To lesser degree of course than dedicated class. This requires darn good cooperation and participation in battle, rather than "I stand here and pew pew cuz I'm dps".
It will take time to get used to new system however, which will change encouters from death zerg into cooperate to progress.
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Originally posted by crazynanny
I agree, if someone dies 20 times in a Wow dungeon they blame the healer or possibly the tank. When the same thing happen in GW2 they complain that the game is too hard.
Big improvement.
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Gaming should be about fun, not gender equality.
I wasn't a particular fan of the trinity system but now that it is not here anymore I miss it. Specially compared to whatever Arena Net has replaced it with. For example I used to play CC/Healer utility class and I cant seem to do that properly here. Either the heals/CC are too weak, too small radius or too long cooldown. So right now I dont know what kind of role my Elementalist does as the only thing he can do consistently is DPS.
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Gaming should be about fun, not gender equality.
Originally posted by crazynanny
I hear this alot, that the trinity system is simplistic and/or boring but it really depends on what level of difficulty you are doing. Properly managing aggro, DPS, healing and at the same time CC adds can be quite a challenge depending on what kind of content you are going.
In GW 2 you cant do anything, but DPS, consistently. You cant really manage aggro because there are no taunts, you cant heal consistently nor can you CC concistently. Basically everyone can do a little bit of everything which, for me, has just resulted in one-dimensional combat where everyone has, more or less, the same role as everyone else. I dont see the improvment here.
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Originally posted by Yamota
Well dps AND run around like a spastic with ants in his pants.
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Originally posted by Yamota
Instead of tanking you need to kite if you plan to get anywhere in a dungeon. And preferably you leave over to the next player after a short while.
It actually do take a lot of teamwork, even if some dungeonbosses are really boring and can be killed by just DPSing them.
But this is dungeons, the open world is not the same. Then again, 60 mixed trinity players on a single box with no coordination would be even more one dimensional.
Originally posted by aesperus
That summary really nails it, it makes PvE feel more like PvP! I kind of liked the classic PvE concept of the encounters being more or less predictable, not necessaryly easy, but predictable. Way to go is, you go in, whatch what the boss is doing, check what your group can do, then think about what each of your players need to do in order to win. Then you execute your plan and either win, or wipe and adjust the tactic.
The way you do this didn't very much differ wheter it is a 5 man dungeon or a 10, 25, 40 man raid. I normally tend to take the lead and explaining encounters and mechanics, especially in PUG's (kind of second nature as long time tank/healer). In Trinity games, the people coming in as Healer, Tank or DPS, are aware of their role and what is expected to them. In GW2 I mostly don't even know where to start, Most people coming in the dungeons with the Zerg-it-down mindset from the dynamic events. I have no clue what the other 4 guys are capable off and what they are skilled and geared for.
So besides giving general comments like, don't melee, whatch out for the rockets, clear the flowers first, the adds explode stay away from them, there is not much planning I can do. While in trinity games I always have the feeling of solving a little puzzle to bring down a boss by having the team push the right button at the right moment while standing at the right spot, in GW2 it feels like I can't see the puzzle pieces and just throw them at the table and hope they will fit after some tries. I miss the feeling of being in control of what is happening. This for me at least is the essence of PvE, and again, as long as it is controllable it can be very tightly tuned and require perfection in execution.
Now writing this down and thinking about it, maybe it's not the lack of trinity per se, but the lack of insight into most profession mechanics by all of the team. I miss the discussions I had in TSW withing PUGS about what we can do, players where way more engaging in actually coming up with a tactic and we tried multipe setups for an encounter until it worked (2 tanks, additional off-heal, healtank or all dps on the kite). In GW2 most PUGS will not really discuss encounters, just run in and die then try again, if I make suggestions, most will do what I say, If I am very lucky with even verifying by typing a simple 'k' in group chat.


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Sash presented to champion race horse Phar Lap after winning the AJC Derby at Randwick Racecourse in Sydney on the 5th October, 1929. It was retained by family of his trainer Harry Telford family, and was amongst a number of items donated to the museum by them in the 1990s.
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The material is "soft touch" -- designed to make it tackier and easier to grip -- and it really does make the iPad less-likely to slip from your hands or off you lap. However, as much as it sticks to you, dirt seems to stick to it. Smudges, streaks, and light colored stains cling to the thing.
There are the usual cutouts for buttons and rockers, speakers and mics, but a curious ridge that runs along the side almost as though no trimming was done at the factory. It's obviously meant to be there but it's annoying and oughtn't be.
A small flap on the back lets you tuck the cover in to create the triangular structure needed to stand it up in picture/movie mode or raise it up in typing mode. It fits well and securely.
Steve Jobs has reportedly responded to criticism of the case with a quick "we like it", and I guess we like it too -- we just don't love it.
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Quick Review: Apple iPad Case
I appreciated the case as I felt the iPad a bit slippery walking around uncovered. Its a bit more subtle at work, and avoids that scratching noise when you place a raw iPad on a desk or table top. Curious if it will work with the 3G without modifications. Wish it had a small pocket inside for something like a screen wiper - I'm wiping this dang screen every 5 minutes...arrrggghhhh
To quote: "I guess we like it too — we just don't love it."
Can I ask a dangerously simple question of which case you DO love? I need to get a case before I get an iPad (going away for a long time) in the UK and was going to get this...
Is there something better?
Another here- I like it, and it's the best I've seen so far, but don't love it. The stand functionality is what makes it for me- this is a must have feature in an iPad case for me. Personally I don't care about the dock because I don't want to use my iPad at my desk in portrait mode (and the case allows me to stand it up in landscape mode), so I'll be returning my dock. And I like the book cover that allows me to "close" my iPad and protect the screen when I put it away (difficult to do, I know!).
If anyone has a case other than the Apple one and you like it, let us know. I've been toting mine inside of a sketch pad in my backpack. I looked at the soft and cushy foam netbook covers at Staples and would've pulled the trigger if the colors weren't day glo green and pink. I'm surprised someone isn't making an improved knockoff that sells for half.
I'm interested in seeing a review, getting some feedback, of the InCase Book Cover (Leatherette) http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/CL57512 and of the Tuff Luv leather case http://www.i-nique.com/detail.asp/cn=1/c=511/sku=5055205271101, each of which look like they are functional and well made. I'm wanting a case that allows the portrait and landscape viewing of slideshows, while being a good cover that allows you to easily handle the iPad.
I don't think any case is going to fit into the dock, and those wanting obtain the most functionality of a case,ie keeping the iPad in the case for convenience, are going to have to settle for just charging the iPad with the charging chord with the iPad in its case enclosure.
I passed on this pricey case ...until I found out that they only had 9 on opening day. It protects, props, and camouflages it for those times when I don't want the attention.
I see little reason to get a dock, at this point.
If I got the Bluetooth keyboard, for instance, I could view the screen in landscape mode, as well as portrait - not so for the dock, from what I understand.
This looks like an absolute piece of garbage. It's weird to see Apple putting out a first party case when they focus so much on design. The reason I don't have an iPhone case is because compared to the phone itself, the cases look like crap. Same can be said about this except that it's actually Apple ruining their own design and charging you $40 for a bit of rubber. No thanks.
Waiting for my 3G but will definitely be ordering a leather case from vajacases.com. Splurged on one of their custommade cases for my iPhone that has protected it with style and beauty for the past 3 years. Worth every penny ($$$).
I will be traveling this week and was looking for something to carry my iPad in. I liked the form factor of the Apple case because of the multi-functionality (cover, stand, typing angle prop). However, they are selling like hotcakes as 2 of my local Apple stores were plumb out of the case. I wound up buying a crappy Incase sleeve just to protect the ipad when traveling.
I am looking for other solutions that provide the same functionality as the Apple case.
@Kristi Friekin I was going to wait for the 3G and then was smartened up at the Apple Store. If you have an iPhone, get MyWi for $10.00, it works great tethered to the iPad. Always have your phone right? No 3G on the phone, none on the iPad, so you don't gain/lose anything. MyWi is not bad on battery life as the older tethering apps.
I'm going to wait until a third party vendor release a better one.
It's expensive, but what product/sevice Apple makes isn't. However, the case as a "stand" and a slight "rise" to type on is convient. The "stand" to watch a home video, movie, or any type of video is nice for easy sharing-viewing. The slight "rise" to type on at home, coffee shop, or on any flat surfacem makes typing more accurate and easier. Given Apple's continous overpriced products/services, the iPad case is the best on the market.
I own this case. It may attract some dirt but it also takes 1 second to clean so it's a non-issue. The seam on the edge is good in that it acts like a bumper. When in this official case the iPad is a lot more rugged and can be tossed around a little more. It feels naked outside of the case. I like the soft rubber like texture as it's super grippy. You can hold the ipad under your chin and open doors without fear of dropping it.
Thanks Rene for the video! Now I know what that annoying interior flap is designed for (it makes perfect sense)... I was going to take a pair of scissors to it. :P
I like this case (like, not love)... One thing that I am still getting used to is opening the cover. The edge of cover is slightly recessed from the bottom portion making it a little tricky to open.
I actually do love the case, I think it's really well designed. If I had to take it off all the time to use with a dock or something, it would suck, but I don't, I just keep it on 24/7. I do think the price should probably be more like $30 and it would be nice if they didn't stick that Apple logo on the front. Here's why I like it:
First, it's thin, meaning it retains that thin, small feeling with the device inside. I have a friend who has a leather case for his, it's nice but it makes the thing about 3x thicker, it almost looks like a laptop. Totally kills the sleekness factor.
Second, it feels good. The microfiber finish is soft yet grippy enough to make holding the iPad much easier. Before I got the case I was really struggling to find a good way of holding the iPad, it just felt pretty slippery and unbalanced. The case feels like an expensive soft book cover. Carrying it is also easier, it just feels like a book or notepad.
Third, it protects the iPad pretty well, which is obviously a primary job of a case. I don't know what would happen if I dropped it from 6 feet up or so, but I feel pretty confident that a hip-level drop wouldn't kill it. it has these edges around the outside that some people call sharp (but don't feel uncomfortable to me) that would cushion some impact on the edge. And obviously the cover closes over the top to protect the screen.
Fourth, it has several positions for propping it up built in. The one that props it up for typing in the landscape mode is the most useful for me, and I can also see the "movie" mode being useful on a cross-country flight, although the narrowish base makes it a touch wobbly in this position (maybe too much sitting on a seat tray table?).
I guess this case isn't for everyone, but I think it's great and when you use your iPad in it for a while (I'll probably never take mine out of it), it's apparent Apple put actually a lot of engineering into this simple accessory, they really thought about comfort and how people would use it.
Oh, also, while it's true it does tend to collect white dust streaks or whatever, it's very easy to wipe off with a damp cloth or paper towel and it looks like new again. Hey, I'd rather have the case collecting stuff instead of the iPad, isn't that the point?
@Nigel you have convinced me. In the big scheme of things what's another $43.00? Mine will be filthy no doubt but like you said, it's main purpose is to protect the Jesus Pad. If they can't show me a fix to keep the wifi drop issue, I'm returning it.
I'm pretty sure that if this was an unboxing video for some HP or IBM product we'd be seeing nonstop comments about how Apple could do it better, how ugly it is, or how bad the installation goes.
Seriously - that's a dirt and dust magnet, looks cheap, and is very un-Apple.
I think Apple as well as the fanbois are starting to let their standards slip. It could be so much better than this thing.
I don't think that the case is very good, and I've been using it since my iPad's third day (Apr. 5). All the criticisms you had, yes. And more: It doesn't allow you to carry anything else in it--cleaning cloth, a sheet of paper. And it doesn't remedy the curved back problem.
I have no idea what they were thinking by designing the iPad with a radius back rather than flat. Seriously, guys---you expect people to type on this machine, so why on earth would you make it an unstable platform for typing? Also, because of the curved back---and the Apple cover exacerbates this---you can't control screen orientation when you simply put the iPad down. It will flip on you because it rocked one way or the other. That is annoying. And the case makes this worse by making it happen even more.
I finally got the case and after 3 days of use I can say it is an unequivocal 10. I cannot imagine a better case. This is not fanboy stupidity, this is a great case. The point about wobbly typing is a spot on, and becomes a pleasure with the case. There is also the feeling that you won't drop it and unlike a zipper case, it is easily and quickly accessible. The material is non skid and maybe because I was expecting worse, I don't find it to be the dirt and dust magnet I thought/heard. My only grip and it is minor, Is that the front cover flap doesn't lay flat back in place after a prolonged session of having it open and tucked in. Minor and in no way alters the experience. If you close the flap and put it down, it goes back eventually. Stick it in the backpack or briefcase and it happens instantly. So no big deal. Get the case, it really improves the device IMO.
I couldn't get the apple case at first because I live in the UK and Apple has just launched the iPad here. I ended up getting a nice leather looking case from a company called Snugg of Amazon and it's great.
I really did want the official Apple case at first but after hearing about the dust/dirt problems and the front not staying closed i had my doubts. The Snugg case stays clean, feels really solid and has cool little magnets that help it stay closed. Its way better!
I've had this case for a few days, now. Very happy with it. It does pick up dirt easily, but it's also grippy enough that I can tuck it under my arm while carrying something and not have to worry about it slipping out. It also doesn't add much bulk to the device, unlike some cases.
As for the extra trimming, that's supposed to be tucked under the iPad - it's right there on the 2nd/last diagram of the instructions that the case comes wrapped in.
Dave: Why not use the convenient folding feature of the case if you have a lot of typing to do? And if you're having screen rotation problems, why not used the rotation lock switch?
You guys might want to check out this awesome Case I heard about on the Rush Limbaugh Show its called ZooGue here is their site http://www.ZooGue.com
I really like this case for a number of reasons:
* It is great for when I am reading on my side, with the device in portrait view. The base takes most of the weight, and it needs minimal effort to hold up - just a little balancing when it is on my mattress. I lightly hold the case near the base with my left hand, and navigate with my right hand. Without the case it is a bit of an effort to hold the iPad - either I hold it near the base, where the leverage from the width of the device makes this tiring, or I hold it further up, which is also tiring.
* It is nice and thin.
* It makes the iPad much more grippy. I used to be quite worried about the iPad slipping out of my hand. The smooth back of the iPad feels great, but isn't very practical. With this case I never feel like I'm going to drop the iPad.
* Also, I find I can slip a very small microfibre cloth in behind the ipad, so that I can always readily clean the screen. This is not ideal, and a small pocket on the outside would do a better job, but it does work.
Ok, it gets a bit dirty, and I find the orientation lock a little hard to get to, but these problems are outweighed by the other benefits IMO, and this case really has changed the way I use my iPad.
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I don't think that the case is good, and I've been using it since my iPad's third day, All the criticisms you had, yes. And more: It doesn't allow you to carry anything else in it--cleaning cloth, a sheet of paper. And it doesn't remedy the curved back problem. And for a mom with a 2 years' old son, I can not let my little son touch my iPad, he may drop it to the ground, I saw one case on http://www.eva-product.com/Soft-Grip-iPad-4-Foam-Case-302.html http://www.amazon.com/iKid-Retro-Green-Tough-Absorbing/dp/B009HUHB8I/ref... It is good shock absorption. The retro green attracts me, with the cased iPad , my son can use it too. Awesome iPad cover!


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UFC 158: St-Pierre vs. Diaz Gate and AttendanceThe Fight of the Night bonus went to the co-main event fighters Carlos Condit and Johny Hendricks. The two top welterweight contenders fought to a decision in an action-packed war. Hendricks' wrestling was the difference in what was a Fight of the Year candidate.
Jake Ellenberger's first-round knockout of Nate Marquardt earned him the Knockout of the Night award. Ellenberger, known for his knockout punching power, landed a combination along the cage the knocked Marquardt down. As Marquardt struggled to grab a leg, Ellenberger delivered a right hand that rendered him unconscious.
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If I'm still up and running I'm more than willing to come walk! Just won't have the energy to organize the event this year. Sorry[:(]
Okay! Now that I have everyone's attention---this is concerning the 2006 Walk-A-Thon. Last year's WAT was a success only because it actually happened! There were days that I just knew I would have to cancel; I was in over my head. Not this year! This year I am going to make this a group effort and this year we are going to knock the socks off the state of Arkansas!
So, who's going to help!??? I don't want to start calling any names, so come on down here and let me know what you can do, even if it seems minor--every little bit counts! Okay, so I did end up calling a few names[^]
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- contact potential sponsors and contact me about interested sponsors(i.e. your company/workplace)
- recruit walkers (c'mon talk to your friends, family members, co-workers--pledge to recruit at least five people and encourage those five people to each recruit five more people) Our goal is to make money, raise awareness, and have fun!! A large crowd means lots of smiling faces!!![:D]
- contact local newspapers and inform them of the WAT--We should have a press release that I can email to you after the new year
- obtaining donated/low cost "prizes" (last year we gave away dinners from local resturants and pizzas--but I think it would be nice if we could have something(s) on hand to give away--like a Corvette [;)], but seriously...
- Ideas for guest speaker?? To have or not to have, that is the question.
I would really like all registered PF members attending the WAT to have an active part in the walk-a-thon or in the give-aways after the walk (I want to be sure the members are recognized and visible!)
1. Deidre - NW Arkansas
1. Deidre--let me know if you're not up to this!
2. Catherine--would you be willing to help with this one?
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PUNXSUTAWNEY, Pa. (AP) -- The handlers for groundhog Punxsutawney Phil say hes forecasting six more weeks of what already has felt like a brutally long and cold winter.
Pennsylvanias famed groundhog emerged from his lair in front of thousands of fans around daybreak Sunday.
Legend has it that if the furry rodent sees his shadow on Feb. 2, winter will last another month-and-a-half. If he doesnt see it, spring will come early.
In reality, Phils prediction is decided ahead of time by a group called the Inner Circle, whose members don top hats and tuxedos for the annual Groundhog Day ceremony on Gobblers Knob, the tiny hill in the town for which hes named about 65 miles northeast of Pittsburgh.
According to records going back to 1887, Phil has now seen his shadow 101 times while failing to see it 17 times, according to the Inner Circle. There are no records for the remaining years.
This years Groundhog Day celebration marks a winter that has brought extreme cold to stretches of the country wholly unaccustomed to it, as well as a snow and ice storm that paralyzed Atlanta and other Southern cities.
Phil is the most famous of a small group of groundhogs said to forecast the weather, including Staten Island Chuck in New York and General Beauregard Lee in Atlanta.
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The Chicago Wolves are proud to enter the 20th season of their Read to Succeed program in libraries. Presented by Butternut Bread and J.U.L.I.E. Inc., more than 500,000 children and 105 libraries in the Chicago area have participated in the program. The goal for every young participant is to spend more time in libraries and see the valuable resources they have to offer, as well as understand the benefits of reading as a recreational tool.
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The Charleston County Park and Recreation Commission (CCPRC), along with the Mount Pleasant Recreation Department is launching the Lowcountry Master Games in January.
The Lowcountry Master Games will feature a different sport or event each month this year. The games, which include basketball, softball, racquetball, golf, bocce, table tennis, track and field, along with several others, will be held at different locations throughout the greater Charleston area.
The Lowcountry Master Games is a cooperative program of local park and recreation agencies dedicated to promoting healthy and active lifestyles for athletes age 50 and over.
As the fastest growing segment of our population, the 50-plus market deserves attention, CCPRCs Fitness and Wellness Program Manager Allison Foster said. Powerful, active, and competitive 50-plussers are redefining age as we know it. They personify the adage age is just a number. Most are living longer, healthier, more productive lives with little thought of slowing down. The Lowcountry Master Games capitalizes on this trend.
The program begins Jan. 28 with bowling. The Town of Mount Pleasants Recreation Department is the sponsoring agency hosting the inaugural event in the series. A complete schedule listing each sport or activity along with the time, date, location and associated fees is available online at www.lowcountrymasters.com.
Participants will compete in the following age groups: 50-54, 55-59, 60-64, 65-69, 70-74, 75-79, and 80-plus. CCPRC staff reserve the right to combine age and gender divisions if registration numbers require it.
The website will provide direct access for those interested in learning more about the programs and for registration information. Registration can also be completed in person at the recreation department or agency hosting the event. Participating agencies include the City of Charleston Department of Recreation, City of North Charleston Recreation Department, Town of Mount Pleasant Recreation Department, Isle of Palms Recreation Department and St. Andrews Parks and Recreation Department.
During the month of January, participate in the Lowcountry Master Games Bowling Tournament. It will be held Jan. 28 at 9 a.m. at Sparians River Bowl
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Register in person at the Mount Pleasant Senior Center, 840 Von Kolnitz Road, Mount Pleasant or by phone at 843-856-2166.
The Lowcountry Master Games are presented by BlueCross BlueShield of South Carolina and supporting sponsor Glasspro. For more information on the Lowcountry Master Games, visit www.lowcountrymasters.com or contact one of the participating agencies.
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First let me state the negative involved with this gift that was supposed to arrive the Friday before Father's Day this year. So yes, you guessed it, it did not get there on time. Having said that, I have nothing but wonderful things to say about how Wine Country Gifts handled this situation. My son received his gift of 2 bottles of wine on the Monday after, with 2 extra as a consolation. They made every attempt to deliver it on time but it was out of their control. My son was definitely very satisfied with the wine selection. There was good communication via email from Wine Country customer service dept. with me to advise me of the situation and I was more than pleased with their solution. They also sent me a Gift certificate for a future purchase. I will definitely order from them again, as I have done many times in the past. I've always been satisfied before as have been the recipients. They always tell me how nice the packages are for the holidays, etc. Bravo to Wine Country Gifts for excellent customer service.
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Shumlins finalize divorceStaff Report | April 03,2013MONTPELIER — After separating in 2009, Gov. Peter Shumlin and his wife, Deborah Holway, have finalized their divorce.
Shumlin, 57, first shared news of the divorce publicly in an interview Monday with the online news outlet BuzzFeed. Shumlin spoke to the outlet at its New York City office while he was in town on work as chairman of the Democratic Governors Association.
Administration spokeswoman Susan Allen on Wednesday confirmed the divorce was finalized in March in Windham County Family Court. The couple, who had formerly shared a home in Putney, have two college-age daughters.
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Newsletter - 'Good Morning', P&O Lines, Strathaird, 18 Jun 1960 Reg. No: HT 13617
- Summary:
- Newsletter titled 'Good Morning' issued to passengers on the P&O Ship 'Strathaird', and dated 18 June 1960. The newsletter details daily entertainments, drills, dining, facilities, church services, games, port of call information, points of interest, dances, parties etc. These newsletters were issued daily by staff to the cabin. They were an important part of life on board and informed passengers of facilities, what they could do on a day to day basis and details of ports of call.
This is one of a set of Newsletters collected by Val Himmelreich (nee McMinn) when she migrated to Australia from Northern Ireland on the Strathaird. Val was 14 at the time and she made the journey with her parents, Frederick and Mary McMinn, her brother and his wife and children. The Strathaird departed from Southampton on 10 June 1960 and arrived in Melbourne on 10 July 1960. The McMinn's decided to migrate on the advice of two of Val's older brothers who were already living in Melbourne and wrote home saying what a great place it was.
- Description:
- Single page of blue paper with letterhead in black and red print. Daily details in black type.
- Acquisition Information:
- Donation from Mrs Val Himmelreich, 2006
|20.40 cm (Width), 33.00 cm (Length)
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|immigration, immigrant voyages, shipping lines, immigrant shipping, irish communities, irish immigration, newsletters, shipping industry
|Themes this item is part of:
|Migration Collection, Transport Collection
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|Travel - Shipboard Life
|Tertiary Classification:
|print media
|Text: P&O/Strathaird/GOOD MORNING/For Your/Information/TODAY/ON BOARD A PENINSULAR AND ORIENTAL STEAM NAVIGATION COMPANY'S SHIP.
|Place & Date Issued:
|18 Jun 1960
|P & O Lines of Australia Pty Ltd, Australia, 18 Jun 1960
|Mrs Val Himmelreich, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 1960-2006
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Did anyone see the program on Sky 3 last night presented by Sir Alan Sugar? All about shameful things of the 80's. Acid House and Warehouse raves got a mention as did the Madchester scene. Regarding Acid house music they played D-Mob's We Call It Acieeed and 808 State's Pacific.
They might have called those things shameful but it brought back nostalgic memories of my youth. I just wish i had a time travelling Delorian to get back to 1987 and relive the best times of my life.
See y'all