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"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."- Henry Ford
I decided this evening to revist Arch Lord (as they won't stop sending me emails about their 'big fixes' to a plethra of 'issues' the game has. I figured i would take a look).
This only so far has served to remind me of a major turnoff for me when it comes to trying an MMO. First i had to dowload some basic runtime environment for all their games, then dowload the doawnloader, in order to download the installer...then have to extract it and figure out which file is actually the installer. And once the game is finally installed...it spends 3 hours updating itself with dowloads that it is afterwards installing.....
Some sites have it really together on this note. A few clicks and your done and ready to play (even if their is a bit of a wait on some of it). Others are intensly process of preperation to play heavy. Especially when it comes to actually getting the game, and registering. Like making a parent company account, specific game account (thankfully these days this is more often then not one in the same) then a player account... and don't forget your forum account. If your lucky they will let you use the same name for all of these and maybe even password... often you won't be that lucky.
The suck icing on the fail cake is usually that the game's site has a limited or non-existant player guide for ages 9it's like the last thing they get around to doing when it probably, in my opinion should have been done before launch).
So a set of questions to you all:
- What do you find to be a most agrrevating feature (or lack their of) prevailent on MMO's websites?
- What is your prescription for making a better MMO website?
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I am surprised that Darkfall, especially being so close to release date of Unholy Wars, does not blatantly state such information on their website. Upon clicking a link to go your regions website, at the bottom, left, in small text you can see news updates about it. It seems to me that this should be a bit more blatant.
On other sites your download scenario turns up as well. Its quite aggrivating to spend time downloading a downloader, then having it download, then install, only to download more and install that as well. Plus, some sites don't make it the easiest to even get your download going!
One of the things I always disliked the most is when games have 14 day free trials, but you can't download until after you have created your account. Then you find out the download is going to take hours and its best just to wait till the next day. Thus, losing a day!
I got to admit, WoW did it right. Same with EQ2. Either of those games I can be playing within an hour or less of signup or purchase. Plus all the information to learn how to play is easy to access. Not that you really need the info for those 2 games, but at least they are there!
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You want the real skinny on what websites should be?
They should be extensions of the game, ways to access the game without being there. They should be a selling point and a witness to the great things inside if you only "join the crew".
Unless your game is browser based many people are going to need to be on a computer where the program is installed to use it.
Oh the things I would offer - branstorming GO ...
The game website needs to be a place that simulates the population existing in a game. It needs to look like real-time reporting. When a new person comes, they would see lively interaction. When an existing person comes, they would be able to interact. Sharing the resources between both the game and the web server gives more reasons to label it all a hobby.
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Originally posted by greenreen
LOVE IT! Great ideas. Though I will never play BF3 again after they told me that my original full price purchase only gave me a second class customer position, I like the way their website ties into the game. Stats, chat, information, forums and you launch from the site too. I know some people didn't care for it but I liked it a lot. I feel battlelog is a step in the right direction, but could be taken further.
Joined: 12/11/08
It sounds like your complaint is about hassles of registering, downloading, and installing a game, and not of game web sites more broadly. Is that correct?
For me, the biggest annoyance with game web sites is when there is hardly any information on the game itself. If I click on an ad for a game, I want to know about the game to see if it might be any good. If all the site does is asks me to register a username and password and won't tell me anything about the game, it makes me wonder if it's a phishing site rather than an actual game.
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Yeah, downloading MMOs can be painful at times.
A simple page where you download the client, register and a few pages is good enough, the hints and guides should be in the game instead (and easy to disable).
They also really should offer 3 types of downloads, the downloader that patches everything, a full install and a torrent of the full install. It is not so hard to make and the torrent is actually saving them bandwidth.
Basic guides do not belong on official websites, they belong in the game. Advanced guides belong on wikis and similar sites. A forum linked to the official pages is nice though.
Easy is the keyword here. Fast is nice too.
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Originally posted by Loke666
I disagree very, very strongly with that. I'll often dismiss a game out of hand entirely if it takes that approach.
Sometimes it only takes a few minutes to looking through a game's web site to determine that it's not for me--or to determine that it's potentially interesting and worth a further look. Paying $50 to buy a box, then several hours to download the game, then many more hours to play through the basic walkthrough, only to find something that I consider completely game-breaking and would have spotted within 10 minutes if the game had a decent web site is an extremely inefficient way to pick out potentially interesting games.
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Originally posted by Quizzical
This x100.
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Originally posted by Quizzical
qft , i always check videos about the mmorpg in order to determine if its worth the download.... some games looks nice on "paper" , but in motion sucks
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The answer is facebook.
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"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."- Henry Ford
@Greenreen, Love those ideas. But what did you mean by other stuff that will be in your game...you building something? or talking about your MMO of choice and some features it will be getting?
In General I am glad to see I am not the only one seeing this, and not the only one sort of floored by it. Not-so-intelligent design on websites is one of those first big things that tips me off that an MMO may not be so great. And, i have noticed, when the website is horrible, so too, tends to be the game. Thing is if a developer can't get a website right, they probably don't have any business doing somethign 10x more complicated.
If an upcomming MMO wants to impress me they can show me a wonderfully designed site with active forums (not leaving their past betas and upcoming teaser for debate and intrigue on fansites), long before the link to dowload ever become active. Before a game even releases it would be great to see a full wikia (with maybe some restrictions placed on it so as not to give too much away before the game comes out)...But a 30 second teaser on youtube no longer strikes me as interesting...especially when that's all it is, with nothing in the links, or maybe a link to what is just a splash page... very annoying really.
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"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."- Henry Ford
Originally posted by zethcarn
I know it's a double post but felt this was worth adressing seperately and it's my thread so neaners
I did mention about wikia's and lack of information...also having to have different user names often time between the web site and the forums and sometimes even the game...fact is the primary thing to complain about with the websites is getting the game, and getting access to it in my view. The website is typically our portal into the game and our first point of access, so while these I find to be pervasive failings on many sites part...all aspects of design on a site have importance (another thing is a wanted to leave something for others to talk about, lol).
And, Quizzical, what you had said about seing the splash page that wants you to sign up without telling you anything... yeah that is increadibly annoying as well...I do find though, and sometimes you have to be looking really hard for it, that they have the tiniest link somewhere on the page that takes you to the full site. this isn't always the case but it is most the time... often the color of the text almost matches the background or it is listed along side things like the little policy and EULA links at the bottom in fine print.
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Originally posted by Helleri
Yeah that was a comment about a hobby game that I am working on.
Since I'm reposting I'll talk about one super secret thing that won't be super secret now lol This one I don't think people are going to see the beauty of unless they pvp so in every game it wouldn't make sense so stealing it probably isn't going to happen.
You know how ppl always complain about pvp skills, x is overpowered, y is underpowered. I've made a forum system that plays judge and jury on skills with randomly chosen players who volunteer to participate taking defendant and prosecutor roles with a judge angle upward view with a huge gavel as the headline that people can click into. Think... pink floyd's the wall as inspiration ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE2t6HWmquc ). Having a peer review of things in the open field for all to see I think will be extremely exciting to participate in offline because the outcome will affect the game. The outcome that the players decide then becomes what does or does not get changed. When someone gets a real "say" in the game by participating on giving feedback and can wave around that they won, it's about who can be the best or most entertaining during their debate to bring in the personalities on the forum. What pvp player doesn't want to pvp on the forum too and it is possible lol


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On Mondays edition of the MMA Hour, Mousasi explained some of that frustration.
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hmmm wouldnt a 35 remington be easier and better? or are you stuck on keeping the short round??
is Kurtz ammo avaliable any were cheap??? that 30 RAR round necked up to 32 or 35 would be interesting.
hmmm wouldnt a 35 remington be easier and better? or are you stuck on keeping the short round??
is Kurtz ammo avaliable any were cheap??? that 30 RAR round necked up to 32 or 35 would be interesting.
Hello moleman,
That fluting machine seems to be an EDM since as you mentioned the little rod in the barrel chamber appears to be an electrode rather than a broaching device.
That electrode likely is mounted via insulation to the machine and a hot wire connects there to the elctrode. The ground wire would connect to the barrel.
As an engineering student I designed and built a small EDM machine a few decades ago. The EDM had an idiot simple "feedback circuit" that let the operator know when the electrode got welded accidentally to the work. That does happen even with the big buck machines. My heavy duty resistors were 200 watt lightbulbs. When the electrode welded and "grounded out" the bulbs (2 of them) would light up !! That signals it's time to back up and break contact. Fun stuff !!!
Good catch Viper Dude! I remember the original thread I saw was a home made broach and just figured back then that this one was the updated version since it had been a couple years since I saw the thread. I thought the broach looked too thin at the time and thought maybe it was just a mock up. I wasn't even thinking about an edm. I saw some home made edm plans on ebay a while back. Looks like the guy is still selling them 2 years later... EDM Machine Sinker Plans Build CD Broken Tap Extractor - eBay (item 160394607217 end time Feb-11-10 17:43:52 PST) Just figured it fell into the snake oil salesman catagory. Thanks for the information, I'd love to have 1/4 of the machining knowledge you have.
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yep there are a suprising number of sources for new commerical 7.92x33mm kurtz. also easily formed from 8mm mauser or similar cases. Still there is no point in doing this for the FMJ round, its near identical to the 7.62x39mm russian; load up subsonics or 8mm soft points at least.
I was able to load 15 rounds into an 30 round AK mag- there was room for more but I only own 15 rounds of DDR 7.92x33mm. i imagine it would fit 26-27, but not sure the curvature will let that many rounds feed without binding.
Hello moleman,
The EDM you referenced looks strangely like mine from 30 years ago !!! Wow, time flies when you are building neet stuff !!! I started with an ancient EDM circuit from a 1950's Pop Sci mag and up-graded it from a half wave rectifier to a full wave (bridge diode type) to get about double the power output. It was a challenge as I am not an EE.
The referenced manual machine uses however a Craftsman MIG welder as the power source. Cute idea !!!
Hello nkluksda,
The EDM you referenced is a more involved machine that uses an automatic feed system with a feedback circuit like the big boys use. The EDM industry in the US once the largest in the world has vanished and moved to Europe (Germany and Switzerland). One of my college profs was a world-class authority on these "non-traditional manufacturing processes". I was always asking him EDM questions.
Even back then I realised that the EDM had small arms manufacturing potential as well as aerospace applications. However the process is VERY slow as it is a spark etching thing but it will carve even hard or exotic metals. A properly shaped tool-electrode can carve a wierd-shaped blind pocket (locking recess on a Soviet DP-28 for eg.). Those DP locking lug pockets were originally done with a special Metal Shaper machine shaping to a horizontal relief cut.
The EDM machine can do some very cool things in a small home shop that not even a CNC mill or lathe can do. Besides "etching" chamber flutes you could even etch small portraits in reverse on the side of your AK's from a tool made from a coin. Yes, an Abe Lincoln Commemorative AK from a penny !!! haha.
i just checked for fun and midway has an 8mm kurtz hornady die set for 69$ not bad for an uncommon round and as far as the chamber reamer i have no clue but i wonder if a 8mm mauser barrel could have part of the chamber section cut off and even if the shoulder of the 8 kurtz is not as shart couldn't you use valve lapping paste on a kurz case and i guess lap the chamber till it fits right?
Prvi was making ammo before the plant explosion. I don't know if they kept it in production because it seems harder to find now. Some case forming info.
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hmmmm if the ammo is not a deal Im not sure what you are gaining over other rounds that are more common but hey its all part of the fun.
My book shows making brass out of 308 win. a 32x308 barnes type round would be very simular. there is a 8mmx308 wild cat as well. there are lots of cheap 8mm barrels out there to play with.


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Gutsy Mediterranean flavours make this spin on roast chicken and chips a really satisfying midweek supper
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- sugar
- 6g
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- 140g cooking chorizo
- 2 red onions, cut into wedges
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Spanish chorizo tortilla for 4: Fry 100g chorizo slices, 1 diced red pepper and 1 cubed potato in a large frying pan. Add 6 beaten eggs and cook for 10 mins until set on the bottom. Cook under the grill for a further 5 mins until the top is golden. Serve hot or cold, cut into wedges.
- Heat oven to 220C/200C fan/gas 7. Cut the chorizo into slices the thickness of a pound coin. Put the onion and garlic in the bottom of a large roasting tin. Scatter over the chorizo, then add the chicken pieces, potato, rosemary and a couple of grinds of black pepper. Drizzle with olive oil, then bake for 45 mins.
- Halfway through the cooking time, give everything a good baste in the chorizo juices.
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Used some of the suggestions above, par-boiled the potatoes for 5mins before putting the dish in. Also added orange zest & some fresh thyme. A must do again recipe. In my oven it actually only took 40mins & that was using thighs & legs. Added olives & green pepper as well, made a very hearty tea-time meal.
I made some changes to this recipe based on other reviews. I chopped the potatoes up quite small and put them in 15 mins before the rest of the ingredients. I used chicken breast chopped into chunks and added red pepper and some chopped carrot as well.
The chorizo certainly gives it all a nice flavour but it would have burnt if it had gone in at the beginning. Using oil as well really makes it far too oily. Next time I wouldn't use any- the chorizo provides enough.
Easy to prepare, managed to get this meal prepared before leaving for work. On arriving home in the evening, greeted by wonderful aroma, could not wait to tuck in. My husband commented on cooking smell whe. He walked through the door too. I had my oven on timer for cooking for 1hr to include warming of the oven, but still cooked dish for a further 20 mins as we used chicken legs. It was delicious. Added frozen peas for extra colour on plate. The only comment I would make is that there was some grease from the chicken even though I used very little olive oil. But, I will definitely cook again, it was truly yummy!


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Of course if you like challenge, follow up all the steps and just skip step 10 :-)
Recycling paper is one of the many things we can do to protect environment, so instead of dispose our old magazines and the tons of catalogs and paper junk we receive, why don't use it to make some nice ornaments for Christmas? They are original, cheap and safer for your children than the traditional glass balls.
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Scissors (optional, if you have practice you can cut the paper with only your hands).
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Unfold it, look the crease pattern: the creases are dividing our sheet into eight rectangles.
Now cut the sheet following the creases (if you are origami lover maybe you want to do it with nothing but your hands, if not, use scissors)
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Ashe County's unemployment rate rose again in October to 11.2 percent, up from September's figure of 10.2 percent, according to the N.C. Department of Commerce (DOC) Labor and Economic Analysis Division.
The increase follows a developing pattern of fluctuating jobless figures in Ashe County, with October's rise reversing a decrease of .7 percent from August to September, according to state figures.
The DOC reports that of 12,979 people in the county's labor force, 1,460 are looking for work.
But N.C. Division of Employment Security (DES) spokesman Larry Parker said that those figures don't tell the whole story. "The number of people working has actually gone up," he said, "but the number of people looking for work has also gone up," which means more unemployment.
Joining the jobless ranks this winter are the roughly 150 United Chemicon employees scheduled for layoffs beginning in December.
Neighboring counties saw no significant job growth. Wilkes County's jobless rate dropped just .1 percent, with Allegheny and Watauga counties holding at 8.8 percent and 7.3 percent, respectively.
Unemployment is down statewide and across the country. North Carolina's seasonally-adjusted jobless rate for October is 8.8 percent, and a national average of 7.9 is reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Ashe County's jobless uptick comes just weeks before federal Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) is slated to end on Dec. 29.
For week ending Nov. 24, 252 residents of Ashe County were receiving EUC benefits averaging $292 per week, Parker said. "That's something like $74,000 out of Ashe County's economy every week…people use that money at the grocery store."
At the same time, an additional 311 Ashe Countians are collecting standard state-issued unemployment insurance, Parker said.
North Carolina currently owes the federal government $2.4 billion in jobless benefits. Chair of the N.C. House Revenue Laws Committee Julia Howard said increases in employer's unemployment taxes, and cuts in unemployment insurance benefits will be recommended to the General Assembly on Wednesday as a solution to the fiscal quagmire.
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North Carolina pays the highest jobless benefits in the southeast, Howard said.
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Saturday's game against San Antonio marks the 13th time in the Wolves 18-year history, and the seventh time in the last eight years, the team has opened the season on the road. The Wolves have posted an 8-5-2-2 mark in regular-season openers, which includes a 5-4-1-2 mark away from the Allstate Arena.
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--- Eddie Lack: Shared first among AHL rookies and tied for fourth overall in the league with 28 victories and ranked seventh in the circuit with a 2.26 goals-against average in 53 AHL outings with the Manitoba Moose ... Posted a 28-21-4 record and shared fourth in the league with a .926 save percentage during his AHL debut ... Registered a 6-5 mark, 1.99 goals-against average, .932 save percentage and two shutouts in 12 Calder Cup playoff contests ... His 1.99 goals-against average ranked fourth among league netminders, while his .932 save percentage held third ... Named to the 2011 AHL All-Rookie Team
--- Mark Mancari: Ranked fifth in the AHL with a career-high 32 goals and shared 14th in the league with 64 points in 56 games with the Portland Pirates last season ... Posted six goals and 12 points in nine Calder Cup playoff matchups ... Skated in 20 National Hockey League contests with the Buffalo Sabres last year, recording 7 assists and 8 points ... Named to the 2011 AHL First All-Star Team
--- Bill Sweatt: Ranked second on the Manitoba Moose and shared ninth among AHL rookies with 46 points (19G, 27A) in 80 contests during his professional debut last season ... His 19 goals held second on the Moose, while his 27 assists held third ... Accrued 5 assists and 6 points in 14 Calder Cup playoff contests last year
--- Jordan Schroeder: Ranked seventh on the Manitoba Moose with 28 points (10G, 18A) in 61 matchups as a rookie last season ... Posted 5 assists and 6 points in 14 Calder Cup postseason contests ... Prior to turning pro, he amassed 22 goals, 51 assists and 73 points in 72 games with the University of Minnesota, spanning two seasons (2008-2010)
--- Head Coach CRAIG MacTAVISH makes his AHL coaching debut on Saturday after being named the eighth head coach in Wolves history on Aug. 1, 2011; the 53-year-old previously spent eight seasons as the head coach of the National Hockey League's Edmonton Oilers, where he compiled a 301-252-47-56 record and .537 winning percentage in 656 games from 2000 to 2009; he also led that club to an appearance in the Stanley Cup Finals in 2006.
--- Chicago finished sixth in the West Division with 89 points last year (39-30-5-6), the franchise's 17th straight year of finishing above .500.
--- The Wolves ranked fifth in the AHL with a 20.6 efficiency rating on the power-play last season (76 of 369); Chicago's 20.6 rating was the second highest in franchise history, trailing only the 2007-08 squad's 20.8 rating (107 of 515).
--- Chicago posted a 20-15-4-1 record on the road last season; the team's 20 road wins bested their home mark of 19, making this the fourth time in franchise history the Wolves have finished a season with more road victories than home victories (1999-00; 2000-01; 2006-07).
--- Twenty-seven of the Wolves 39 wins last season came when they held opponents to two or fewer goals in a game (27-2-0-0).
--- Goaltender Matt Climie kicked out 32 of 33 shots in 90:08 of action over two games during the preseason; the 28-year-old netminder ranked seventh in the AHL with 26 victories and recorded a 26-22-3 mark, 2.64 goals-against average and .913 save percentage in 55 outings with the San Antonio Rampage last year.
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--- Forward Nathan Longpre also scored for the Wolves
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Fri., Sept. 30
Chicago 3, (at) Peoria 2
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--- Defenseman Kevin Connauton scored a pair of goals for the Wolves, while blueliner SEBASTIAN ERIXON tallied the other marker
--- Goaltenders Matt Climie (11 saves) and KAREL ST. LAURENT (14 saves) split time in ST. LAURENT's win
Wed., Sept. 28
Chicago 4, (at) Rockford 2
--- The Wolves fell behind 2-0 after 20 minutes but rattled off four consecutive goals en route to a 4-2 win over the Rockford IceHogs at Carlson Ice Arena
--- Forwards Dean Strong, PATRICK ASSELIN and Nathan Longpre and defenseman VINCENT LoVERDE all scored for Chicago
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Hawks Continue to Improve, Finish Fifth at Own Invitational
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Ryan Ratajczak's 85 score led the Hawks to a fifth place finish in their Third Annual Hilbert Invitational golf match September 7.
Penn State Behrend tapped the top two medalist spots as they captured the team championship with a 320 score. Bradford trailed by fifteen strokes to claim second place followed by Medaille (338), D'Youville (350), Hilbert (356) and Houghton (367).
Ratajczak finished tied for 10th, and was followed by Karl Blomback who shot an 88 (T-14); Jake Rienecke finished with a 90 (T19) and Jason Tabaczynski stroked out at 93. Also playing for the Hawks was Ryan Tofil (93).
The Hawks dropped 53 strokes off their Hilbert Invitational score from the 2011 season and have beaten last year's stroke average by 27 swings already.
The Hawks will continue to practice at Gowanda until their next match. Penn State Behrend hosts their Invitational a Peek N'Peak course on September 20.
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I was late coming to the wonderful world of Stephen King. I had always assumed that he was simply a horror novelist based on the movie THE SHINING and what I had heard of him, and I was neither a horror nor sci-fi book fan. Then, I visited a friend for the weekend and, settling into my make-shift bed on the sofa, I found I couldn't get to sleep. I reached behind me to the built-in bookshelves and just grabbed the first paperback my fingers touched. It was THE TOMMYKNOCKERS. I just wanted something to get me drowsy. Hahahaha! Silly, silly Smush. Well, around 6:00a.m. (I'm a slow reader, savoring every word, and often read some paragraphs two or three times if I'm especially struck by the imagery they conjure), I still had a few chapters to read, but was basically kicked out by my friend who had to go to work. I did not ask to borrow the book for I knew the answer would be a big, fat NO. My friend is a lovely person, but not one to loan things.
Upon getting home, I immediately set out to find my own copy of THE TOMMYKNOCKERS. Not a single bookstore I went to had it. I almost sat down in the middle of the last store and cried. Anyway, the years went by, and I mentioned this whole incident to a co-worker around 12 years (!!!) "So, how was your weekend?" question. "Oh," she said, "I'll loan you my copy." I almost fainted.
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iPhone owners really getting more sex?
I got the Magic Phone. She love the Phone.
It's not the size of the droid it's the magic of the multi-touch that drives the ladies nuts. Look it up in the Kinsey Report.
My iPhone does not get me laid. However, I'm more likely to arrive on a date on time. That's if I can get one. :/ damn.
Hey to tha yeah! But then I've had one for years... ;-) lol
Err, no, because the study claimed more sexual partners, not more sex. A Blackberry user getting it on twice a day, every day, with her husband would count as having less sex than somebody who had sex once a decade, but with two strangers. Rene is not alone in taking this one dating questionnaire way out of context; it seems like everybody did.
I've got an Incredible, my wife has a 3GS. If the story's true I'll divorce her for fooling around. More likely, iPhone users are more likely to overstate their sex lives.
@ J1ca
Were you annoyed by the fact that your GF was playing with your iPhone on your first date? Or are you using iPhone as a euphamism?
Who uses the iPad more? You or your wife? I was just curious to see who likes to play with it more. I like to take mine to the Bat-toilet when nature calls. I like to play Angry Birds on the can.
My iPhone brings all the girls to the yard........
@ Bugs I have a Boost Mobile phone and I never get laid. :( I'm too busy fighting crime! Plus I had to file a restraining order against Robin.
@ Tebow
Hey Timmy, even if your passing stats grew 561% you would still ride the bench in the NFL! AWWW! Does it hurt? Does the truth bring out the pain? I would rather own a Droid than a Tebow jersey! I'll just stand here and put out the vide to the ladies with my iP4 hanging out of m'pocket.
People, this website had some class up until sexual relations were associated with phone ownership. I like a man who reminds me of a giraffe, not one who owns an iPhone or a Droid, if you know what I mean! Batman, see you later back at the Hall of Justice!
@Tebow. Wasn't that run against the fifth string scrubs, in an exhibition game?
Oh, that's right. You are a Droir troll claiming to be a left handed quarterback that specializes in wounded ducks. Why not aspire to be more and pretend to be, say, Peyton Manning?
@Eddy.. good to see you joined the conversation.. for someone who's not a Tebow fan, you sure do follow his every move. interesting strategy you got there Eddy.. but i'm glad you saw Tebow's performance on Sunday, maybe it will inspire you to do something useful with your life.. it's obviously been a waste thus far.
..and as far as my "aspirations" are concerned, you shouldn't worry yourself with that too much. Eddy, you have more pressing issues to think about.. you just need to figure out why you "aspire" to be a pile of dung (fresh and steamy).. it's really not a good look guy.
Good Luck Eddy!
@Bogus that is so freaking funny!
I have both an iPhone and a Blackberry, life can't get much better
@ tebow - you will never make in the NFL. If you actually watched the game, you would know that you the guy had 2 ints dropped, a fumble run back for a rd that was reversed, and his throwing motion and wounded duck throwing style hasn't changed a bit. So he ran in fir a touchdown with a min left in the game against 4 th stringers. Tebow is just like the android...... Overrated - Ever since I picked up my iPhone 4 my erection hasn't gone down and have had more sex than ever before
@ 2balls
I agree 100% with your take on Tebow and the iP4. You are a smart human being my friend. I have also been happy with my new iP4 and have played with it nonstop since getting one! I hope you and your erection can make it through the day without hurting anyone. I once heard something similar about Vin Diesel. Please see below:
"Vin Diesel once walked down the street with a massive erection. There were no survivors." - via the internet
Shalom my friend and have a nice day!
@2Balls and @Irish.. for being a couple of iNerds, you two sure do pretend like you know a lot about football.. you guys must be FSU or UT fans i bet.. do i have to remind you how Tebow destroyed your hopes and dreams at the collegiate level and now he will destroy your teams at the NFL level.. i.e. Jaguars and Titans..
..and another thing maybe you two wanna get together and play with each other's "iPhones"??.. have fun with that...
@Cougar... it's called sports.. try it sometime.
Good Luck!
@ Cougar
Why does Rene have to ruin all of my fun? To the Batcave!
@ Wonder Woman
Hit me up on the iBatPhone...
This poll is dumb
I don't need an iPhone to get s e x. I'm Chuck Freaking Norris.
Chuck you are one of the lucky ones.
It is drippy have to get my iPhone checked out
Wow, this is really getting crazy!!!
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Originally posted by wmada2k
Before you had monsters that attacked, now you have monsters that attack and brainlessly block.
"Wait and see" is a terrible argument. We've seen videos like this before and what is delivered is always underpar or never implemented, so the best approach is to take what they have now as what will most likely be in the game.
It's take 2 months for them to get the guards blocking down, do you seriously think that they can implement the "revolutionary AI" in just one more month (april)?
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Hah, what a worthless video.
At first, the folks at Stravault went through great trouble to create and post videos of "content" that wasnt in the game.
And whatever propaganda vids I have forgotten.
Now the quality of such propaganda has dipped down so badly...its so sad really that they dont have the manpower to even create a decent half assed cutscene.
Just like every other "tidbit" video that has come out about this new free patch, this one is also along the usual "first draft" lines. Makes me wonder if even the hardcore MO fanboys can still believe that SV can move past from the alpha stages to launch phase in barely a month's time (when this Awakening patch is set to be released).
What they showed hardly even qualified as AI, not taking into account if it was a static script that was played out or a shoddy attempt at iterating real time AI conditions. The dev testing this poor joke did not kite, juke, range attack or even run from the NPCs, why not? Since the revolutionary AI will bork up, is my guess. What kinda testing is this? Do the good folks at Starvault think that they can push out any mindless drivel of a "development video" and the hungry fanatics will lap it up like a gift from heavens without questioning its legitimacy? Probably so, as a couple of fanboys have demonstrated in this thread...
Looking forward to this free patch, its already holding onto the promise of bringing tons of entertainment to these forums, free of charge! Barely a month to go and SV are Still working on "first drafts", this could lead to a very fitting (anti)climax!
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Dibs on "This is a placeholder system because we are a small indy company with limited resources" line making its way forward again. :)
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Originally posted by SHOE788
Why is no one saying something?
Me, being a MO player is happy my game is getting an update and MO is finally getting PVE. That's all that really matters. I haven't personally seen anything 'new' that i haven't seen before in those yet. But I'm no less stoked.
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Originally posted by RainBringer
sorry to be the one to have to tell you this, but that first trailer? its an in engine render. you dont know what that means? well its a trailer created using assets with far higher textures and cinematic possible inside a game. This is actually very common practise aqnd something the UE3 is very good at. It can be seen in alot of game traielrs including U3 and NS2. Hopefully you will be able to tell the difference in the future.
Townlife traielr never had any kind of planned release date or even a rumoured one. But it seems to me like townlife will be a part of awakening with the guard ai etc.
There are things shown in videos that arent ingame but these 2 examples are poor examples, personally i would of chosen the dragon from the beta trailer since that is misleading and not some in engine render and a preview of content they had never decided on a release date for.
SHOE- by your logic everything is a script since to you a script and coding are the same thing, scripting is bad in you logic which means coding is bad. So when a palyer swings from his left he always swings with the same left swing animation which means it is coded that way which in shoe loagic means its a scripted event which in turn = bad. Hmm that kinda makes everything in almost every single game bad.
you hit the nail on the head, pre-determined behaviour SHOE. now read that again and then tell me how a random behavioural pattern applied to npc determining which attack/block they will use could possibly be scripted? and see how your logic just failed. Its the compelte opposite of a behavioural pattern, it is simply chaos. If instead the guard did a pattern of stab swing block over and over then yes that would indeed be a scripted behavioural pattern which really isnt a term often used anyway. But thee is nothing in the video to suggest anythihng he is doing has any pattern to it. Hence why you jumping to the conclusion its scripted has about as much merit as me jumping to the conclusion the guard is an actual player controlling it using the guard model.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
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Originally posted by deathshroud
You may claim that. but everyone watching the video can plainly see the attack, block, attack, block sequence working with the exact same delays every time.
Originally posted by deathshroud
"SHOE- by your logic everything is a script since to you a script and coding are the same thing, scripting is bad in you logic which means coding is bad. So when a palyer swings from his left he always swings with the same left swing animation which means it is coded that way which in shoe loagic means its a scripted event which in turn = bad. Hmm that kinda makes everything in almost every single game bad."
Duh? Scripts and Code are the same thing. The reason why the word "Script" is used is because the word meshes very well with user interaction, GUIs, and "actors". There is literally no difference and we could call any piece of code a script and any script a piece of code.
Scripted behavior isn't bad, nearly every game uses it, but from a game claiming to have "revolutionary AI" it burns my bottom to see the fanboys jumping on this as some sort of MMO miracle.
"you hit the nail on the head, pre-determined behaviour SHOE. now read that again and then tell me how a random behavioural pattern applied to npc determining which attack/block they will use could possibly be scripted?"
When you want to go to school or work do you roll the dice to figure out how to get there? Random works well in games like tetris where it's applied to objects that don't have behavior. When a computer is trying to simulate a human or human like behavior, it doesn't make any sense at all to just randomize what they do, because that's not the way humans operate. We make decisions based on "input" and we take the input from our surrounding environment.
"Random" isn't artificial intelligence, unless you literally roll through life with a die in your pocket and make a dice roll for every decision you make
"But thee is nothing in the video to suggest anythihng he is doing has any pattern to it. Hence why you jumping to the conclusion its scripted has about as much merit as me jumping to the conclusion the guard is an actual player controlling it using the guard model."
The guard swings at 3.5 second intervals. Do you do that? Or is there some method to swinging, maybe you charge your attack and hold it to get the best shot in, maybe you strafe around to disoriente the player. Did you see the guard make those decisions? No, he was programmed to brainlessly swing every 3.5 seconds. That's not decision based and it's certainly not environmental input.
Maybe you just lack the technical expertise to identify what is obvious to me.
I really dont think anyone here, haters or fanbois, have seen enough of what they are putting in the game to make any call on if they are doing anything new or just regular AI.
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Originally posted by xDayx
Yay, playing the hater/fanboi card on people, that actually try to discuss this, to shrug it under the rug. Perhaps you should move away from the black/white world and enter the gray area.
I have to agree very much, that the scripting on this so called AI is very primitive. There has to be more variables in it than the constant attack->wait (x sec) block-> attack and so on. Awekening is scheduled to release on april 2012 right? They sure have a lot of work to do, if the only thing we've seen so far is not even on par with most other AI's.
Originally posted by Rawiz
No one is shrugging anything under the rug. Im saying let us see the rug for ourselves instead of being shown a thread from it and judging the whole rug. Doing anything less may cause you to get the rug pulled out from under you.
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this is going to be one heck of a bug fest......
just like every single other "expansios" or major patch. i just can't get excited.
Lol, your probably right. Im excited though.
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Originally posted by Bitshift
note the ambiguity in the descriptions: surprise, incredible, never yet seen.
none of these point directly towards it being good, quite funny really
im not going to comment on the video however as the guards were stationary. i want to see how they will behave in my kind of fight with a lot of movement
Originally posted by Cyde77
Well the mediocrity didnt "surprise" me
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Originally posted by deathshroud
[Mod Edit]
Those trailers have one sole purpose: to hype the game. It showed "content" using graphics, models and everything in between that wasnt available in the game at that point for that one sole purpose: to hype the game. Henrick's modus operandi till date has been: to hype the game.
That leads us to these newer, more worthlessly constructed vidoes whose purpose over here is, you guessed it, to hype the game. He is throwing the rabid fanboys a bone to chew on till the new free patch is out, god forbid anyone should unsubscribe thinking that SV hasnt got the time or talent to make the new free patch: Awakening. So to allay such fears, he puts out these half assed "first draft" videos of things that might never make it to launch, since they never had a release date set in stone right?
So just because they never give a --/--/---- based date, its safe to assume that even though the chumps at starvault say "this feature is completed and we are about to launch it" it could very well mean that its going to release on 3012, right? After all they dint hold your pinky finger and make a promise that they would release it anytime in our lifetime even after hyping it up via videos and word of mouth right out the CEO's hype hole. Townlife, flash based UI, redesigned inventory, AI, etc etc etc were all ready years ago but SV hasnt released it yet since they did not PROMISE to do it in this century, Right??
@OP: to be honest, those fights barely lasted 30 seconds each. I find it very hard to come to any conclusive understanding if they were scripted by an escaped nasa monkey or if the new revolutionary AI is a few lines of code sent via a time machine from the 1980s. Entire video was worth less than ratcrap and less informative than a random line drawn on the pavement. Not to mention the fact that daddy's boy personally "edited" out the video and any alarming parts would have been obviously chopped off before being made viewable for the public. Well...that would solve the mystery why the fights are SO short....
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Originally posted by RainBringer
More details: (sorry for double post but had to point this out)
Whatever you are smoking, its destroying your brain cells deathshroud.
My first link: Get fooled by cinematics! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYsUi80jOE4 : Mortal Online Trailer, posted on april, 2008.
0:00 to 0:03: Teaser produced using in-game content and technology
2:03 to 2:12: Enter, the dragon.
Engine render using in-game content and technology? You were saying?
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Originally posted by RainBringer
like i said its an in engine render, in engine renders generally use ingame assets but either up the polygon count significantly or use a higher quality texture, they also use more post processing and are esentially way to demanding to actually run as a game but are built using the engine. They are misleading by their very nature but a cheap way to create a good looking trailer for a game so this is nothing new. The assets are ingame but since it isnt exactly a gameplay trailer it doesnt have to be exact. Below are a few examples of in engine renders, you will note the much higher graphical quality of them over the actual games.
I dont think sv are at fault for their first trailer, its an in engine render, its pretty obvious as well and they arent gameplay videos.
the reason why i said the dragon from the beta traielr and not from the rendered trailer is because its an actual ingame video as oppossed to one created using unreal engine.
also i generally take it as granted that a trailer is to hype the game no need to tell me that.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
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Originally posted by deathshroud
I dont need you to tell me what an engine render is, what I had said in my previous post before that part got moderated.
Not only renders but cutscenes, cinematics and basically a good deal of limited control / no control motion vidoes in today's games are created using tools which employ higher degrees of bloom effects, polygon counts, HQ textures, higher degrees of camera FOVs, magnified effects, etc.
Most people, might come as a shock to you, when looking at a game trailer that says:
Teaser produced using in-game content and technology
right there as a statutory warning in the first 3 seconds think that this is exactly how the game will look like. Most MMO gamers have no idea that such movies are made with "content" that will not be feasible to put inside the game due to the graphic intensive load on the player's machine. So please, cut the bullshit that this is common knowledge and a common practice in the MMO industry to hype trailers with such slogans while fooling the potential player.
When SWTOR employed HQ textures in cutscenes and did not provide it in game, people raged like they had been robbed off the skin from their noses, get some perspective or educate yourself in development Ethics before running off such BS just to favour SV's less than honest practice.
Yea, to your eyes SV arent at fault with the first scamming trailer, or the second deceitful video, or the third edited load of propaganda. Everything that SV does is A-OK in your eyes, I get it. I finally understand that to you SV is the epitome of success and can never be at fault. If you remember I once gave you credit for being a more non-fanatical pro-SV poster here, I take it all back. I further hope to never get pulled into any strawman arguments with you since no amount of reasoning will suffice. And I have been very civil in posting this message and I really hope no mod would again edit out anything here and leave my post's complete meaning hanging yet again in uncertainty.
Just had to say this, the video clearly states in-game content and shows a dragon in it. Why does anyone need to look at any other video for more proof of SV's lies?
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Originally posted by RainBringer
I don't play the game anymore but there is possibly a dragon in the game already. Dragons in MO are supposedly epic creatures that never respawn once dead. Given Starvaults love for mysteries and puzzles I'd say the one shown in chains in the teaser is just one of those puzzles that nobody has found/unlocked. It was stated that Dragons (and other epic creatures) will be controlled by another human not AI so I don't think it requires any sort of conspiracy to cover up something easily possible.
What is also possible is that you are letting your hatred for the game rule out a bit of rationality here.


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