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Splat! I just flew into the paywall.
Splat! I just flew into the paywall.
Ok... I wrote a big huge TLDR response to this but then I decided to open a new-tab and re-read the comments that began our discussion and deleted it. Now I will write another
Life can be described in 'mechanistic' terms. A definition that I have heard along those lines is that it must have metabolism, reproduction, self repair and evolution to be life. Usually this results in discussions about what happens if you find something that only fulfills some of the 4. Also commonly mentioned are viri which in a sense do some of these things but require cells to infect in order to do so. This seems to me to be the kind of 'life' definition you are using when you talk about things like death from sodium azide.
I'm not sure how it can be argued that life, by that kind of definition has anything to do with emotions. Do single celled organisms have emotion? Which of these attributes do what to form love, anger, fear?
Those things are states in the brain.. which happens to be composed of cells which are alive by the mechanistic definition. To some degree we can understand and demonstrate those emotions as being physical states in the brain. Scientists have brought the emotions out by poking, prodding and stimulating various regions of the brains of living, conscious people.
On the other hand, there is incredible complexity in all that huge mass of cells and how they communicate. We can't map out all the interactions which occur as a brain experiences love or anger or fear and simulate them on a computer.
Further, and i think more importantly.. I don't think we really understand how we perceive those brain states. When the cells of my brain activate to form an emotion I don't experience it as an individual cell taking a bunch of inputs from other cells and deciding based on them when it is time to activate a bunch of outputs sent to other cells. I experience it as a whole individual.. as a person.
If the emergent behavior of the sum of reactions between these mechanisticly living things can form me.. why can't the sum of reactions between some other form of logic gates combine to form what is essentially a person. I can't even define what exactly a person is so surely I can't rule that out!
It seems unlikely to me that things like metabolism and self-repair are what set me apart from a non-sentient robot.
"I would like it very much if you could provide some information that suggests that all you need is complexity to make something with feelings and emotions."
I don't know why you would expect evidence of that from me. It isn't quite what I said! Maybe there is some aspect to our existence as people that goes beyond the materials and energy interacting within us. I don't know. Good luck proving it either way. But.. even if something like that does exist.. is it generated by the formation of our bodies? Is it somehow attracted from elsewhere and binds to us as our bodies are formed? Even if there is something more to us.. without thoroughly understanding it whose to say the same thing wouldn't (or would) happen to a sufficiently complex AI?
But... emotions, memories, sensations... they have all been produced experimentally in real human beings by electrically stimulating various areas of the brain. So.. tell me that much of us doesn't exist at least on some level as mere signals passed around by cells.
"But the key is that they are alive"
Have you ever attempted to put a real definition on the term 'alive'? good luck with that. I feel I should write more on this but what do you write to describe the indescribable?
"There is no evidence that any machine of any type even has a "thought", let alone an emotion."
Agreed. But... human beings can be considered to be highly complex chemical machines. And.. your statement still stands. Something that was only a 'sufficiently complex' machine could theoretically appear to be a person. (oh yah.. try to define person too). Maybe that's all a sufficiently advanced AI would be. But.. maybe that's all you, and every other person on the planet is. Sufficiently advanced chemical machines that they seem to be people. I only 'know' that I am a real person. And.. nope... I can not prove it! I can give you no evidence that I actually have thoughts and emotions rather than just sufficiently complicated electrical and chemical signals to simulate them.
So... I take that one on faith. I'm not a big fan of faith over science but how do you devise a test for things like person hood that can't even be defined? Since I believe that I am a person and other humans seem to be of similar makeup and have similar traits of sensation and emotion I believe that they (including you) are people too!
If the day ever comes that someone creates a sufficiently advanced AI... it's going to be quite a conundrum figuring out if we should consider that to be a person or a thing and what basic rights therefore do or do not apply. Good luck to anyone on either side of that argument! If anyone ever thinks they can win it I think they are deluded.
I'll take the 'lets just assume it's a person' side because it' safer. It would be less harmful to anthropomorphize a machine than to objectify a person.
"I wonder what it is that makes people think that robots can be given emotions, when we have no idea how brains generate emotions?"
Ah, how refreshing. An intelligent thought on this subject.
"what makes people think that it doesn't require living cells to have feelings, sensations and emotions?"
Damn... I jumped the gun.
Cells are really vessels containing incredibly complicated chemical reactions. They communicate through various electrical and chemical means. I don't know if there is any non-material, spiritual aspect to it or not (and not interested in a debate on it) but if the sum of all these reactions and chemical plus electrical signals can add up to either make us or attract the undefined spiritual thing or whatever.
Why couldn't the sum of a whole bunch of electrical signals through semiconductor switches or even something really crazy like a mechanical computer made of wheels and gears do the same?
Now.. whether something like this could actually be built is an entirely different question. The complexity would be unimaginable. But then.. I don't see anybody building humans out of raw chemicals either yet nobody is going to argue that a being made of cells can't have feelings, sensations and emotions.
It's been a while since I used Debian but I remember stock debian installs already pretty much fitting this description. You had to turn on the contrib and non-free apt sources to get anything proprietary. Has this changed?
Freedom from porn. No proprietary codecs....
That's GM! And GM is unatural! Unatural is evil! Burn witch burn!
The only way to fix the world's hunger problems is population reduction! But.. sex is natural! Oh my Gaia, what do we do? I know! Chemical sterilization! That's natural right?
"LXDE is in the process of becoming LXQt. It fully intends to support remote using Qt's system."
That's interesting. I'm glad people will still have a sort of lightweight choice. I'm not really an LXDE user myself though. I just use the task bar from LXDE. I suppose I was being overly garrulous in mentioning that part of my setup.
" Stump isn't really a window manager as much as a programming exercise demonstrating how to do windows management in LISP."
That's an interesting statement. The author wrote Ratpoison first. His big motivation there was he wanted a GUI that didn't require a mouse. He was a big Emacs guy and used to having Lisp as part of his environment to work with. He found he was building Lisp like abilities into Ratpoison so he decided it made more sense to do a re-write this time using Lisp from the start. At least that's what the website says. Whenever I look for Lisp configuration help online the questions and answers I read sound like other users are actually using Stumpwm as their main window manager. I've never seen anything to indicate that it is only a programming excercise!
Personally, I use it because it is tiling. I used to really like Konqueror in KDE. I used it's split-screen feature a lot. You could run a terminal in the bottom. I used to run emacs in that, edit PHP code and have the page I am working on displayed in the window above. It also worked as a file manager, with scp support so I would have a second tab for uploading image files and stuff like that.
When KDE started pushing their new browser over Konqueror at first I thought my preferred way of working was going away. I read people's arguments about it, stating that Konqueror was no good because it tried to be too many things.. counter to the Unix philosophy. i suppose they were right. I realized that what I really wanted was tiling. That's basically what I was using Konqueror for.. a tiling Window manager. That's what Stump is to me now, not a Lisp exercise. As a bonus.. where before I was running my text editor in Konqueror's terminal, now I get to run the GUI version of it!
Maybe what I need to do is learn to write my own compositor. I don't want to do that. I have sooo many projects I am already working on and no idea where to even start. Contrary to how it might seem i am not married to the idea of X forever. i just don't want to lose any features, only gain them.
"Yes. There are many solutions. Apple's built in Messages application does this. http://mightytext.net/ works for Android."
Thanks, I will check that out.
"$.03/hr in electricity over a WAN (wired LAN is close to 0)."
For remote X I mostly use wired LAN. I value the fact that I can do remote X over the Wan but I do mostly use VNC for that.
I don't like Wifi much because we have too many neighbors using it and causing interference. I prefer non-portable wired terminals in heavy use spots. Of course we use wifi with portable devices like tablets but I'm ok with VNC on those anyway.
I mostly use remote X as a way to access the computer in my den in my workshop. Yes, I know, i could install VNC. I really like that just turn it on and go, the illusion that the PCs in the workshop and in the den are one and the same. I have additional small, old cash register PCs that I intend to eventually set up the same way as a media PC in the livingroom and maybe in the kitchen for looking up recipes and stuff like that. Yes, I know, this is kind of a 1950s-70s retro-future image of computing. It's better than maintaining a bunch of separate desktops. Todays tablets and etc... are awesome but there is still something to be said for full size monitors, keyboards and mice. I think there would be a lot to gain if thin-clients were to become more mainstream.
It's also nice to be able to point out that using open source software allows me to create a custom setup like this. Even if you don't like my setup.. you can implement YOUR favorite setup. I can customize it the way I want while someone else can customize it the way they want to. To me that's what has always separated Linux from OSX and Windows. From my perspective Linux seems to be losing that quality and there isn't really a viable alternative to get that back. Implement remote access on Syllable?
Ideally I would have a system where logging in remotely or locally, both give me a login screen. I log in and get a list of any sessions i might have already open. I can switch to one of them, close any of them I don't want running, or start a new one. Upon switching to a session, if I last connected from elsewhere the screen would automatically resize to fit my current terminal. Upon creating a new session I could chose any installed window manager or desktop environment. It wouldn't matter because remoting would be implemented on a lower layer that is common to every GUI program. Oh.. and one other thing.. each session would have it's own audio stream and connecting to it would get me sound. For dedicated terminals it would be nice if USB devices were automatically remoted too. For non-dedicated terminals that could be a feature to be turned on/off, kind of like sharing files and printers in Windows remote desktop.
It seems like as things currently stand most of the pieces to do this exist. X does remote display. PulseAudio does network audio (though I am struggling to make that work). There is USB over TCP/IP support in Linux but you have to go to the commandline and tell a client to share a specific USB device. Then you have to go to the server's commandline and tell it to connect to that device. In a dedicated terminal i would like to be able to configure it such that every USB device (except the keyboard and mouse) automatically gets connected to the remote machine. Maybe this can be done with what exists now and udev rules? I haven't gotten that far.
Anyway, implementing all of this.. if remote support is fragmented across toolkits, possibly non-existent on some lesser used toolkits.. that sounds even harder than it has ever been!
>> Any toolkit can have Wayland remoting. That's going to be a standard part of writing new toolkits in say 10 years.
Ah.. but I thought remote access was a niche application, no longer relevant enough for developers to care about? That's what I am hearing when Wayland supporters say that 'nobody' is using it. It's too niche for Wayland and yet widespread enough that each toolkit will bother to implement it all on their own? I really don't get that. And why should they, each one would be re-inventing the same wheel!
"That's session sharing. What's better is not remoting the conversation to the computer but that the computer syncs with the phone and has a copy of the conversations at all times. Many messaging systems already provide that. I do that today. No reason to remote just push the data."
By texting I mean SMS. You have something that lets you do that from your computer? It's not like I am going to force all my friends and family to switch to Hangouts or Skype or something like that just so I can type easier.
"Yes when your main OS changes toolkits (something like KDE 5 to 6) you will need to update your dumb images to match but that's not hard in your scenario."
i don't even use KDE or Gnome. I use Stumpwm along with the pager from Lxde. Am i going to have to install Gnome just so that I can remotely access GTK apps and KDE so I can remotely access QT ones? Is there any room for a variety of window/desktop managers, especially lightweight ones in a Wayland world? Even if I was still using KDE (I used that for years) I don't think i would want to see Linux change in a way that FORCES users onto one of the big two. On top of that, i have it all compiled from scratch (Gentoo) so that it runs nicely on my older equipment. That's another reason I don't want Gnome+KDE on the dumb terminals. Neither of KDE or Gnome is going to fit on the CF cards I was describing to you anyway. I'm not just complaining so that I can keep MY setup. Why keep upping the hardware requirements when we have a working solution already? Aren't the landfills full enough?
i guess there is TFTP but that is frankly a pain in the ass. To use that you have to set up your own custom DHCP server rather than just use either a commercially available router or a simple router distro.
"Your hypothetical application author has to have chosen an obscure modern toolkit which doesn't remote."
Availability of choice is something that has made Linux great for a very long time. Will there be no future development in this area? Is it going to be QT/GTK forever?
"If you are an end user what do you care what sits on the hard drive?"
Because I'm the one who has to put it there. Hey, remember when Linux was a 'hobbyist OS'? We still aren't all technicians setting up labs for an employer somewhere. Some of us actually use Linux at home still!
You seem to care about security. That's part of why I want my clients thin. The fewer things installed on them the fewer things need to be locked down. Ideally I want a very small display server and just enough underlying OS to run it.
"So if you want to be remoting on a LAN not WAN, have a not quite dumb terminal but a Linux box"
Yes! Yes! Absolutely! Is that not what I have been describing? Was i somehow not clear about it? Actually.. I'd go for a real dumb terminal except old PCs are essentially free and the only dumb terminals I know of are old CRT beasts with no audio support. My remote devices are tiny PCs that I think used to be cash registers. They run off of wallwarts, have no fans and came without hard drives. I added CF cards rather than real hard drives to keep noise, heat and power consumption down while eliminating moving parts.
", forcing Unix to emulate hardware configurations that no one has used for two decades."
See! I told you Wayland supporters were rude. You are calling me 'Nobody'! Go look at other forums discussing this topic. Apparently this 'nobody' is not alone!
You aren't even addressing the fact that I already said I don't really care about X11. I care about remote functionality. Providing network support at a layer between the toolkits and what Wayland provides would be fine by me so long as it meant that this layer was what the toolkits or applications are coded to talk to, not Wayland directly. That way ALL applications could still be remoted. And.. if that layer used similar methods to what X11 used to provide remote access or something entirely different or even used multiple methods, chosen by the application to best suite the kind of content being displayed... that's all ok by me!
"I don't know you tell me. Wayland is a different but better method of getting display data from one place to the other and yet you object to changing it. So why?"
Because.. as it seems to be proposed Wayland is NOT a way to get ALL display data from one place to another. That is outside of Wayland's scope. With remote support moved to the toolkit or application level we only get remote support where someone chose to support that feature. The old system meant EVERYTHING could be displayed remotely. I only want the baby saved, you can pitch the bathwater.
>>>>"To do both of what? Display both kinds of applications remotely?"
>>"Have a display system that both shares and doesn't share buffers. And as far as remoting to properly the same remoting strategy. One is designed for strategies the other doesn't support and vise versa."
Ok, I know the word buffer to mean an area of memory. Basically a big array containing pixel data. Why do I care if remote support is implemented in one big array or a dozen? Hey.. either way.. knock yourself out. Do whichever works better.
Do you mean something different when you say this? Are you saying that we can't have both full desktop remote access and also be able to remote single applications? I do this in Windows with RDP every day at work! On one monitor I display a terminal server desktop to run Visual Studio. i display the full desktop because Visual Studio spins off lots of child windows and that doesn't work as well if I just display Visual Studio remotely. At the same time I am displaying Navicat, running on that same terminal server but by itself, outside of the desktop. it shows up in my local taskbar... it's just like remote displaying a single X application.
"As for mobile apps with keyboard and mouse. Other than mobile development, why would you do that? And why would anyone want to remote that?"
Do you know what a Lapdock is? I use it because it solves 90% of my mobile needs without the need for buying a laptop. It's a little shell that looks like a notebook. It has no CPU. My phone plugs into it. I have VNC and RDP apps on my phone. i have git & svn. I have the Arduino environment. I have game console emulators. Of course there is the web browser. The list goes on. Pretty much everything I could do on a computer is there, if it isn't... I can use it as a VNC or RDP terminal. I can even plug in USB devices. I've used it with a USB attached software defined radio, storage devices and Arduinos myself. All I am required to maintain is something I would maintain anyway... my phone!
Is this a common setup... well.. they are discontinued. But.. any Android tablet combined with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse is pretty much the same thing. Plenty of people do that. Another similar environment would be a Microsoft Surface. Even iPads are commonly placed in cases that have built in bluetooth keyboards although they don't support mice without a jailbreak. So.. I'm hardly alone in using a mobile environment in a more desktop way!
Why would I want to remote my phone? i think I would be more likely to want to remote display something from my desktop on my phone. But... if I don't have my lapdock on me remoting the phone to a computer would be a handy way to handle long-winded text conversations.
Ultimately I would like to be down to just two non-dumb devices. A main computer at home with a Linux install customized to exactly how I like it and kept fairly constantly up to date. Give it lots of processor, RAM and GPU power. Then give me dumb terminals.. as dumb as possible. Make the hardware low power so that it uses less electricity and wears out slower. Make the software dumber so that there is as little as possible to require security updates.
The second non-dumb device would be a portable one. It's only purpose in not being dumb is so that it might be useful even without a signal. It should be pocket sized... a cellphone. A roll out screen would be a nice addition some day when those are available. Meanwhile I'm happy to just have a dock like the Lapdock I have now which I can bring with me when I want something more computer like. There is no substitute for a real keyboard when typing.
I see something like moving the remote support out to the toolkits as making this dream far less likely. That is what I am against, not replacing the underlying protocols to be more video friendly.
Is remote display unimportant because there are more people who only run locally? Remote display is somewhat of a fringe thing. But.. so is all Desktop Linux. We are here BECAUSE we are on the fringe. If we weren't we would be on Windows or OSX! Desktop Linux is painful. People are always sending documents, videos, etc.. that require special effort to install proprietary codecs or run semi-functional applications in Wine. If you are sticking to Linux on the desktop then there is probably already some fringe feature you love or rely on or you wouldn't be here. What happens if one day it goes away? If any fringe users of Linux are going to be written off as not significant then you might as well pack it up because we are all fringe users in one way or another.
A local Gnome? A local KDE? My main purpose for running remotely is to NOT have to install and maintain all that baggage in multiple locations. At that point one might as well just set up a NAS to hold their home directories and install the full set of software on every computer. But.. then.. might as well just run Windows. That's how just about every Windows shop office is set up. At that point how does Linux provide something unique?
"It isn't possible to do both."
To do both of what? Display both kinds of applications remotely? Or use two different underlying implementations? It can't all go through one buffer AND go through separate buffers. Ok. Maybe I should say this.. I don't really care about X11 the protocol vs Wayland vs the display protocol of that Mac compatible OS the aliens used in Independence Day. I'm not arguing for or against keeping the underlying architecture behind remote or local display unchanged. X11 serves me well although I am quite aware it is not perfect. If a different method of getting the display data from one place to another works better then why would I be against changing it?
Wayland supporters often say that X11 network transparency or remote display or whatever is already broken. OK. My limited understanding is that as originally intended an application told X to draw a shape or add text, etc.. what got passed over TCP/IP was the command to do so, not a raster graphic of the shape. What I gather from the various pro Wayland posts is that under the hood various hacks have mostly replaced this and now everything is getting drawn at some higher level and passed as bitmap. Ok. But when I go to use an application remotely IT STILL DISPLAYS. In fact, now I have VirtualGL installed so I suppose that has things rendering entirely outside of X and just streaming through as bitmap. But.. it is working! Actually, I love the idea of doing 3d applications this way. Let me build up ONE client that has ONE big honking video card and play video games on it but displayed elsewhere without making me invest in a house full of GPUs.
But that isn't what I came to talk about. It's the interface that I am interested in. I just want to be able to tell the current session that my display is over here. And it all displays. If I feel like doing this with a single application at a time.. I want that to work. If I want to remote display my desktop environment.. then that should work too. If I open a desktop environment remotely.. then when i open something within that environment it should display there. X forced this. When you linked against X-libs it didn't matter if you were actually linking against GTK or QT or ____ which in turn linked against X libs or even if you coded directly to X libs. Implementing remote display at a lower level meant everything had it.
So.. different methods of remote display are needed for different applications. So what? I don't see how that still can't be implemented at a lower (and thus common) level. just give it a default implementation that may not be the most efficient but at least works. If the application or toolkit programmers don't care about remote access then it falls into that by default. Big deal.. at least for LAN users it probably doesn't matter anyway. If say.. the programmers of video player X or flashy 3d accelerated game Y do decide to care.. they tell the toolkit which method they want to use, probably by choosing a different container class or something like that. The toolkit then passes this information down to the common layer which then uses the appropriate method for display. The big thing I am trying so desperately to stress is that when Johnny Z downloads X and Y and runs them he doesn't see any of this! It just works!
So what's so bad if some of these applications never really were meant to have that remote display ability?
"I'd assume that highly specialized toolkits which don't remote, don't remote because they can't tolerate latency."
Now you are getting back to someone else making the decision for every user as to what is usable remotely and what is not. For example... you mention touch application specifically... I use touch applications with a mouse and keyboard all the time! I have a Motorola Lapdock. It doesn't even have a touch screen. But.. it has a trackpad and a keyboard. Basically I'm running Android in a Laptop like environment when I do that. i use apps all the time where the authors never intended anything but touch and yet to me it is incredibly useful! There are a few (and I mean only a few) apps that don't work very well because they rely on multi-touch gestures and the author didn't make alternate ways to access those features. That is because those apps authors weren't thinking about less common ways that others might use their software. They just code for the 90%. For the most part I have found better alternatives. Those authors get my money! Does that mean the apps I use don't have lots of touch gestures or don't work well using just the phone? Not at all! Most are the best of both worlds!
Is the latency too much for touch but acceptable (to me) with a mouse? Ok.. then I will just use the mouse! Problem solved! I don't want separate applications for these situations. That just means more incompatible or partially compatible file formats.
How bad is the latency going to be anyway? Today's cable modems are much faster than the LANs where I first learned to 'love X'. And the LANs now... lightning fast! I've seen choppy though not entirely unwatchable video over remote X displayed on my computer at work tunneled through SSH. And that's through SSH, I used to have openvpn and it ran a lot better through that. (yah, i know, it wasn't really using the X protocol as intended, sill don't care)
For comparison I used to do PHP development back in the early 0s using a 1200 baud connection via an old Nextel cellphone. It was just fine to run a text editor at the server via ssh and I could browse the results with images turned off. I didn't know anyone tethering a cellphone back then but it let me get out of my apartment and work from the cafe without paying for their then expensive wifi.
My point being that you never know how people might want to use something. That's what made Linux great.. you had the choice to make it do things whether the original authors thought it was useful or not. Now it's just becoming another Windows or Mac OS jail.
You talk a lot about how different applications or toolkits might handle latency differently in order to provide a great user experience. Who doesn't want a great user experience? But.. if the tools to do that exist at a lower level, where everything goes through (like a display server) then 1) a lot of duplicate work can be eliminated and 2) more applications are likely to benefit. You are relying on every author to care about this issue. I don't think that even a majority will.
"Well yes it does result in a fractured feature. They Wayland people see the fracturing as a plus."
So does this mean that I wouldn't be able to say remotely display a desktop environment which uses QT and within that click a shortcut to a GTK app and expect it to open and be managed by that QT desktop environment.
That is the functionality we have now. Once you have your desktop environment displaying remotely everything you do looks and feels local. How can you have that when each app may have a different remote implementation?
>> Talking about Wayland not having remoting implying that Wayland applications won't remote isn't fair not accurate.
Yes it is. In my previous statement I chose QT and GTK as examples because they are so common. A user could have any number of applications using any number of GUI toolkits. Assuming they will all bother to implement their own remote access would way over-optimistic.
>> a) Supporters of network transparency don't know what network transparency is
There are many levels to look at things. You can look at electrons traveling through silicon or the behaviors of transistors combining to form logic gates. Skipping a lot of levels, further up you get all these software buffers, etc.. that Wayland supporters like to talk about. Some levels up from that there is an end user who sets their DISPLAY variable or runs "xorg -query ", etc.. and gets remote access to their desktop. Wayland supporters keep talking about those buffers and other low level things and saying that what goes on at that level isn't really network transparency. Ok. But the user doesn't care! I know I don't!
" You have to make choices. Deciding to help you is deciding to harm others. People who want better games (and BTW I don't game) are making the same argument you are in reverse."
If I can watch a high definition video feed in real time over the internet then I should be able to remotely display a desktop or a user should be able to remotely display a game. The two should not be mutually exclusive. Surely it is possible to fix this in a way that pleases the gamer without screwing it up for the remote desktop user.
You probably are thinking I just proved your point but I did not. I said we should be able to remotely display our DESKTOPS. Not just individual programs. I should be able to see my favorite desktop manager and click shortcuts within it without worrying about which toolkit each uses. It should just work.. just like it does now.
Before you say.. VNC... nope. That is not the same. I use both remote X and VNC. My remote X server is configured to automatically connect when I turn it on. (It just runs xorg -query ) The very first thing I see is a login screen where I can log in as any user of the client computer. If I happen to have changed out the monitor.. well.. auto detection will have already adjusted my resolution accordingly.
I have three VNC sessions running in the background at all times. Two run under my login. One is just the perfect dimensions for my Lapdock. The other is the perfect dimensions for my iPad and happens to be usable though not great on my monitor at work. The third session runs as my daughter's user for her to log in. Most of the time all 3 are unused and yet all 3 are running because otherwise I would have to ssh in first and start them before I could use them.
" but there are many capable developers who deal with that kind of specialty "
Capable of developing a display server? Really? Why?
Until recently pretty much every *nix used X. Of course Windows and Mac also exist, clearly somebody develops those. There are a few outliers like Syllable & ReactOS. All in all I would think that the number of display servers or non-server systems serving that purpose could be counted on one's fingers.
If that's true... why would there be a bunch of available developers with the knowledge to do such things. What are they already working on and why?
"They do agree remote usage is an important feature and it is something they intend to add."
"They do agree it is something on their todo list."
Are you privy to something that I am not? According to the FAQ it is out of scope. I've watched the videos... all I see are statements that it is someone else's problem and that X doesn't do remote anymore anyway.* Wayland developers and supporters have even suggested that networking support be moved to the GUI toolkits. Surely that would result in a fractured feature that works differently on some applications than others and probably not at all on some.
Also... on the To Do list? Wayland is already being pushed in production. This should not happen with basic features still on the "To Do" list. I'm not sure if there are any desktop distros defaulting to it but there is Tizen. I for one have been looking forward to being able to remote display applications from my desktop on my phone or vice versa ever since I used my old Sharp Zaurus! Do you think it's too impractical on the small screen? I often worked this way on the Z'. I even occasionally did real work with SSH on a 3x2" screen with T9 keyboard Nokia Series 60 phone back in the day.
"A respectful comment from the anti-Wayland side! Well done."
I do not believe that there has been much respect coming from the pro-Wayland side. The attitude from the developers seems to be.. you are a minority.. you don't matter. The stuff you care about doesn't work now anyway (even though you are currently using it without problem) Non-developer Wayland supporters are even worse, accusing people who are concerned about remote display of being Neck Beards that are holding them back from getting 3d video acceleration. If the anti-Wayland side seems disrespectful perhaps it should be viewed as a natural response by a community under attack.
* - As Xorg developers I'm sure they know what they are talking about regarding X not doing remote anymore... on a developer level. So it's not really using the X protocol as originally intended when I display something remotely or something like that. As a user I really don't care. I just know that my application is displaying remotely. In other words... it just works.
"Remember that applications, especially those that are often used remotely, are likely to be somewhat delayed in how long before they switch to Wayland only versions."
To me it's not the ability to remote those applications that makes X great. It's the ability to remote the ones that most people would never even think of remoting.
Today the cloud is all the rage. The market is demanding it not just the 'geeks'. For an application that truly begs remoting I think the question isn't does the operating system support remoting it's "why doesn't the application have a built in web interface?!"/ (to the lay user X or Wayland is a part of the OS)
To me the fact that X allows me to display applications that the author never wanted me to display remotely is awesome. It's part of a broader environment of "I get to decide" what features are useful to me, not an application author, not the market or anyone else. This is generally the way Linux has worked until recently. For a system that makes these decisions for you, where the things a typical user would want just work a Windows or Macintosh desktop would be just fine. That need is already filled!
That is not to imply that it is only important to me on a basis of ideology. I happen to use a remote X terminal myself. i use it as though it were just another face of my main PC, not as a way to run specific, specially remote-worthy applications. It's a way that I can have one and only one highly customized desktop to babysit and yet have it in multiple places.
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Dirk Nowitzki has advice for Tony Romo: Ignore the haters
Oct 3, 2011, 1:14 PM EDT
Tony Romo is getting hit harder by Dallas fans Monday than any time he did Sunday. The Cowboys choked away a 24-point lead against the Lions and the Dallas quarterback is taking fire from his own people like he he was a South American dictator. Romo has no friends in Dallas.
Well, he has one.
Dirk Nowitzki tweeted this out Monday:
Dear tony romo. Don't worry abt all the critics. I heard that same garbage for a long time. Keep working hard and keep improving.
Nowitzki certainly had been called out as not being able to close — as if he could have stopped the referees love affair with Dwyane Wade in the 2006 finals — although the passion around the Mavs is at the level in Dallas it is around the Cowboys. That said, Nowitzki did get his ring after years of hard work and continually improving his game. But Dirk also finally had the right help around him.
Is Jason Garrett capable of being Rick Carlisle savvy? Tyson Chandler was the defensive stopper the Mavericks needed in the paint to get a ring, do the Cowboys have any stoppers on defense? And who on the Cowboys provides the heady, steady leadership of Jason Kidd? I'm fairly sure it's not Dez Bryant.
It's not a good day to be Tony Romo, but the big German has got his back.
Pau Gasol on Fred Hoiberg: "I think we'll play with a better flow offensively"
Jul 30, 2015, 11:30 PM EDT
Hoiberg has a much stronger offensive reputation than Tom Thibodeau.
Blazers waive Brendan Haywood after acquiring him from Cavs
Jul 30, 2015, 10:43 PM EDT
Portland received Mike Miller and two second-round picks in addition to Haywood.
Report: Kings expected to hire Nancy Lieberman as assistant coach
Jul 30, 2015, 10:00 PM EDT
Lieberman would be the second female assistant coach, after Becky Hammon
Report: Hawks' Mike Scott arrested for felony drug possession
Jul 30, 2015, 9:15 PM EDT
Scott was charged with possession of marijuana and MDMA.
Josh Smith clarifies "harder on me" comments in Players Tribune essay
Jul 30, 2015, 8:30 PM EDT
Smith says he was talking more about family stability than money in his controversial comments.
Thunder sign domestic draft-and-stash pick Josh Huestis
Jul 30, 2015, 7:45 PM EDT
Huestis spent last season in the D-League.
Expect Rio Olympics to be Mike Krzyzewski's last run as Team USA's coach
Jul 30, 2015, 7:06 PM EDT
Could Gregg Popovich take his place in 2020?
Tony Parker says for Spurs this is "last crack at it to try to win it all"
Jul 30, 2015, 5:40 PM EDT
In what will be the last year for Duncan and Manu Ginobili, not to mention David West's long career, there will be plenty of desperation and energy in San Antonio.
Gilbert Arenas on LeBron James: "James isn't a #1 option..and yes I (didn't stutter)"
Jul 30, 2015, 4:49 PM EDT
Arenas suggests LeBron isn't selfish enough.
Quote of the Day: Gregg Popovich credits Coach Duncan for his five NBA titles
Jul 30, 2015, 4:11 PM EDT
Spurs coach happily assigns credit
Flip Saunders: Kevin Garnett will start for Timberwolves
Jul 30, 2015, 3:25 PM EDT
Will Karl-Anthony Towns, Nikola Pekovic or Gorgui Dieng start beside him?
Jerry Colangelo: LeBron James has spot in 2016 Olympics if he wants it
Jul 30, 2015, 2:33 PM EDT
Will he want it?
Flip Saunders still maintains he planned to keep Kevin Love until Andrew Wiggins offer
Jul 30, 2015, 1:48 PM EDT
Timberwolves apparently weren't just going to trade Love for whatever they could get
Mark Cuban: NBA would have punished Tom Brady more harshly than Roger Goodell did
Jul 30, 2015, 1:00 PM EDT
Suspending Patriots quarterback for a quarter of the season was bare minimum for Mavericks owner
Report: Team USA uncertain whether Dwight Howard, John Wall will attend minicamp
Jul 30, 2015, 12:07 PM EDT
Jerry Colangelo said attendance was mandatory to be considered for 2016 Olympic team
Adam Silver: NBA on track to play regular-season games in Africa
Jul 30, 2015, 11:22 AM EDT
NBA commissioner confident Africa will get a preseason game
Thabo Sefolosha: Too soon to say when I'll play again
Jul 30, 2015, 10:31 AM EDT
Hawks wing says his leg and ankle feel better
76ers sign Richaun Holmes
Jul 30, 2015, 9:28 AM EDT
Philadelphia drafted Holmes in second round
Matt Barnes ready to "foul the beep" out of DeAndre Jordan when Grizzlies, Clippers meet
Jul 30, 2015, 8:33 AM EDT
Barnes is a perfect fit in for the "grit and grind" style of the Grizzlies.
Wesley Matthews says Trail Blazers never made him an offer, "I was pissed off"
Jul 30, 2015, 8:00 AM EDT
Portland not making a call means they knew Aldridge was gone and it was time to rebuild.
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Coast Guard Disrupts Illegal Vessel Operator
The U.S. Coast Guard disrupted an illegal river tour business operating on the Withlacoochee River in Dunnellon, Fla., Feb. 4. A Coast Guard investigation determined that Singing River Tours, who conducts boat tours of the Rainbow and Withlacoochee Rivers, operated their 24-foot pontoon vessel on two different tours while carrying ten passengers in excess allowed by law. Although the vessel was operated by Captain Jon Semmes, 39, a resident of Dunnellon, the vessel was not certificated for passenger service. The Coast Guard is issuing Singing River Tours a citation and is seeking to suspend Semmes' U.S. Coast Guard Captain's license for operating a passenger vessel without a valid Coast Guard Certificate of Inspection (COI). Coast Guard regulations require each vessel carrying more than six passengers to have a valid COI onboard. The COI is a document issued to owners and operators of vessels following a satisfactory safety inspection by a Coast Guard marine inspector. The COI documents the vessel's compliance with established structural standards, stability, lifesaving, firefighting and navigation equipment, as well as conditions of operating and demonstrated crew competency procedures. The Coast Guard, in concert with state and local partners, actively investigates all reports of illegal passenger vessel operations, imposing civil or criminal penalties when required
North American Marine, R. E. Perry Alliance
It is a well-known fact that marine assets are unique, whether they are inland and ocean-going vessels or waterfront properties, shipyards and barge fleeting operations. Making business decisions pertaining to them, especially in today's market, can be difficult. Consequently, North American Marine Consultants, LLC, and R.E. Perry Company have formed a strategic alliance to better assist their customers in managing their marine assets by providing knowledge-based marine surveying
Ferry Captain Sentenced for Fraudulent License
The US Coast Guard said that a man formerly employed as a ferry captain was sentenced to five months of confinement, followed by three years of supervised release, after he pled guilty to utilizing a fraudulent USCG master's license and to making false statements to the federal government. Source: HK Law
Swedish Club Extends BRM Training to Pakistan
The Swedish Club has licensed the Wallem Maritime Training Center Karachi (WMTC Karachi) for Bridge Resource Management (BRM) training. It is the seventh BRM training center to be licensed by the Club. Wallem Shipmanagement now operates three BRM training facilities licensed by the Club, the others being WMTC Moscow and WMTC Mumbai. The licensing of the training center in Karachi will enable Wallem to extend BRM training to its officers and engineers in Pakistan
This Day in Coast Guard History – August 30
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Sea Tow Announces New Delaware Bay Franchise
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Coast Guard Yard Under New Command
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Herschler Joins North American Marine Consultants
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Sulzer Joins SLSDC Advisory Board
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Norwegian Launches Legal Weddings at Sea
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Singapore MPA Wants LNG Bunkering Options
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WGMA Urges Participation in Menhaden Survey
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FMC Collects $1,227,500 in Penalties from NVOCC's
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Imperial Oil Defers Drilling in Canada's Beaufort Sea
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USMMA's Class of 2019 Arrives for Indoctrination
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Inauguration of Jimmie H. Hobaugh Community Center
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Captain Issued RMI's First Unlimited Yacht License
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NEW YORK, Nov. 15, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Wanderport Corp. (OTC Markets-PINKSHEETS: WDRP) today provided a statement by Mr. Robert Simoneau, Wanderport's Technical Advisor and Product Licensor, concerning the release of independent laboratory performance efficiency results on the multi-cavity microwave heating unit (MCMHU):
"Today being the company's voluntary target date to release the MCMHU's independent laboratory performance efficiency results, I am providing a summary of events which took place during 'in-house' testing leading to the company's decision to delay the release of said results, as well as a video demonstrating the operational unit's capacity to increase water temperature (delta). Prior to leaving abroad, I met with Intertek Group plc to review the prototype MCMHU and discuss testing protocol including required safety precautions and to agree on a set Intertek lab date. I then, proceeded to run new tests on the assembled MCMHU to establish functionality with the intention of bringing it to the lab for testing. At the request of the company I also recorded the operational unit in video format. In this video I was able to achieve and document a 50 degree centigrade output with an approximate and significant 30 degree delta (when I had surpassed 50 degree centigrade output temperature I terminated the test). However, during the test I noticed that not all magnetrons were firing and this was something that I wanted to investigate further prior to Intertek lab testing. Thereafter, and due to time and other constraints, I requested the postponement of two subsequently scheduled Intertek testing appointments which had been re-scheduled to allow for residual work to be completed on the unit specifically relating to the non-functioning magnetrons. In addition, I also chose to incorporate a modification in the testing protocol that would allow us to definitely prove scalability. This unfortunately has delayed us past this week's targeted date. That said, I have now continued the modification with the materials on hand by removing the drivers from the enclosure to allow me to identify the output wiring in order to eliminate any misfiring of the water cooled magnetrons. Furthermore, I have since finished other lab modifications and proceeded to reconstruct and test the MCMHU. With these adjustments I am convinced that the data to be collected at Intertek will take on greater significance to clearly illustrate the heat engine's scalability in terms of flow rate, delta and amperage draw by allowing for individual, combined and sequential firing of the magnetrons as determined manually. As a result, I am pleased to be shortly re-confirming a testing date at Intertek's Laboratory without delay, where this new protocol will further validate the unique microwave energy tank-less water heater's performance efficiency results. With this being said, I am hopeful that Wanderport will have a video to demonstrate a functioning unit and performance efficiency results on or before December 6, 2012."
About Intertek Group plc:
For more than 127 years, companies around the world have depended on Intertek to ensure the quality and safety of their products, processes and systems. Intertek helps companies to develop and maintain trust and integrity in their products and processes, delivering quality solutions that meet or exceed industry requirements and regulatory standards. Intertek holds extensive global accreditations, recognitions, and agreements allowing certification for virtually every market in the world. Intertek Group plc is a publicly listed company that trades on the London Stock Exchange under stock code ITRK.L in the FTSE 100. Intertek has more than 30,000 people in over 1,000 locations serving clients in more than 100 countries. In March 2012, Intertek Group reported annual revenue of over 1.7 billion pounds Sterling for the 2011 financial year and had a market capitalization of 4 billion pounds Sterling. For more information, please visit: www.intertek.com
About Wanderport Corporation:
Wanderport Corporation is a publicly traded company which acquired the global exclusive licensing, distribution and proprietary rights to a unique microwave energy tank-less water heater solution. The company has been dedicated to converting the technology into a marketable eco-friendly, efficient product. Wanderport's objective is to build a sound and profitable company by marketing and distributing the world's first revolutionary alternative to existing less-efficient water heating systems. The proprietary heat engine technology was the proud recipient of the 2005 TIPTA award (TCA; Toronto Construction Association, Innovative Product and Technology Award), awarded by the National Research Council of Canada recognizing excellence in product innovation and technology development.
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Home > Press > GE Ranks #1 in Proactively Addressing World's High-Tech Challenges
Ranking part of R&D Magazine's survey of top research & development
GE (NYSE: GE), today announced that it has been recognized as the world's top research and development (R&D) company for proactively addressing the world's biggest "high-tech challenges" by R&D Magazine, http://www.rdmag.com/ , a respected trade publication read by scientists, engineers and administrators who work in research and development. GE also placed first among R&D facilities where technologists would most like to work.
To determine these rankings, R&D Magazine editors analyzed 130
R&D-intensive companies on intellectual property, community service and
financial growth trends, as well as surveyed its readership to evaluate R&D
operations. GE ranked second out of the 130 companies for overall "best R&D
companies in the world."
Mark Little, Senior Vice President and Director, GE Global Research, said
the survey results "are a recognition of GE's strong commitment to research
and development. During the past decade, GE has invested billions of dollars
and expanded its R&D footprint in the United States, Europe and Asia. The
company also has placed big bets in sustainable energy, nanotechnology,
biotechnology and security to address some of the world's most pressing
"We're also very proud that when it comes to which company is seen as the
most proactive in tackling the world's biggest technology challenges, GE comes
out on top," Little added. "We have always viewed technology as a means to
delivering breakthrough products and solutions for our customers and for
society. We pride ourselves on pushing the limits of innovation to change the
As part of the survey, readers were asked which company's R&D was most
proactive in responding to high-tech challenges like global warming, disease
and pollution. GE was the leading vote getter in this category. In tandem with
this question, GE ranked second when readers were asked which company's R&D
has the strongest influence on society.
GE's research and development operation has a proud history that spans
more than a century. The company was the first to establish an industrial
research lab in the U.S. in Schenectady, N.Y. in 1900. Today, its corporate
research and development headquarters in Niskayuna, N.Y., employs more than
1,900 people on its sprawling 525-acre facility. Since 1999, the company has
opened three additional R&D facilities globally in Bangalore, India; Shanghai,
China; and Munich, Germany. GE also has invested more than $125 million to
renovate and expand the Niskayuna facility, which included a new building wing
housing biotechnology and nanotechnology labs.
All together, GE has more than 27,000 technologists across the company
working to develop the next generation of technologies and products.
Technology development at GE extends beyond its R&D labs to it many partners
in academia, government and the private sector. The company engages in
hundreds of projects each year with partners to advance the state of
technology in key areas such as energy, health care, security, transportation
and lighting and appliances.
About GE
GE Global Research was the first industrial research lab in the United
States and is one of the world's most diversified research centers, providing
innovative technology for all of GE's businesses. Global Research has been the
cornerstone of GE technology for more than 100 years, developing breakthrough
innovations in areas such as medical imaging, energy generation, jet engines,
advanced materials and lighting. GE Global Research is headquartered in
Niskayuna, New York and has facilities in Bangalore, India; Shanghai, China;
and Munich, Germany.
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While at Harvard, Sanders served as the chair of the communications committee for the Harvard Graduate Student and hosted TEDxHGSE and served as an admissions ambassador amongst other duties.
Additionally, Michael was a research assistant for Sustain Arts, a national arts-based research initiative out of the Hauser Institute for Civil Society at the Center for Public Leadership at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.
Sanders previosuly earned his bachelor's degree from Xavier University of Louisiana with high honors, where he was a James S. Kemper Scholar. In 2010 he earned a master's degree from Louisiana State University.
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Close your eyes, breathe in deeply, now exhale slowly… That was easy, wasn't it? Not for everyone…
On their face, there could not be two more unlikely holidays to wed than Yom Kippur and Purim. Even the youngest child knows that Purim is a holiday meant for fun and celebration, for costumes and parties. Yom Kippur, on the other hand, is the most solemn day of the Jewish calendar, calling on us engage in deep, somber introspection as we search for forgiveness and atonement. How different they are!
Yet the ba'alei haKabalah sought mystical associations between the two holidays, pointing out that the initial kaf in kippurim indicates that Yom Kippurim is a "day like Purim."
Likewise, Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik, seeking deeply intertwined meanings between the two, divined that it is only the most superficial aspects of the holidays that diverge. On an important level, they are very similar: "Perhaps the feature common to both Purim and Yom Kippur is that aspect of Purim which is a call for Divine compassion and intercession, a mood of petition arising out of great distress."
Of course, if our dependence upon God and our need for reconciliation were the only commonality, then it would be a trivial one. After all, nearly all things of meaningful human worth intersect at our dependence upon God and our need for reconciliation. So it is not this obvious connection that moves the Rav, it is the second similarity between Purim and Yom Kippurim that brings their association into clearer focus – they both "involve the casting of lots (goral), charactistic of games of chance. As for the Purim goral, it determined the date chosen by Haman for the destruction of the Jews."
The goral of the Yom Kippur Temple service had a different character but our fate was no less determined by the "chance" of the goral. On Yom Kippur, two male goats identical in appearance, size, and value were brought, one marked "unto the Lord," and the other hurled to its death. The decision as to which would live and which would die was left to the fateful casting of lots. Rashi's description of the process is both dramatic and terrifying.
He placed one goat at his right and other at his left. He then put both his hands into an urn and took one lot in his right hand and the other in his left. These he placed on them. The goat upon which fell the lot bearing the inscription Lashem was for the Lord, and that bearing for Azazel was later sent forth to Azazel. [Rashi, Leviticus 16:8]
Such drama! Such uncertainty! All the more so because the fate of the people rested on the result. But why lots? Why a game of chance to determine our fate? Could not the Lord have simply decided and made it so?
Of course. But the certainty of God's power stands in stark contrast to the fundamental truth of our condition in this world – and the reason that chance plays such a vital role in both these holidays.
The pur, the goral of Purim and the casting of lots on Yom Kippur both speak to man's basic condition of vulnerability, insecurity, and fickleness. A cursory reading of the megillah would find that the entire Purim narrative is defined by chance, unreasonable, absurd, and irrational events. One day Jews are secure in Persia; the next they face annihilation. One day Mordechai faces execution; the next he is prime minister. Haman's conspiracy against the Jews arises from nowhere, it is as fickle and uncertain as the lots he draws to determine when to carry out his horrible intent.
"Purim, therefore," the Rav explains, "epitomizes the instability, uncertainty, and vulnerability which characterize human life generally but particularly govern the destiny of the Jews…. It alerts the Jew to the sudden turns of fortune, lurking dangers, the fickleness of life, even as the goral itself seems to operate through blind chance."
Despite our search for answers, we are often faced with no sensible answer. Why does man sin? Why do two brothers, twins perhaps, mature to be so different – one a tzaddik, the other a rasha? What combination of temptations, lures of intoxicating pleasures, appeals of political and social ideologies, home background, moral strength or weakness, changing fortunes, pressing circumstances and, yes, chance, play out in our lives?
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