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mr. b
Well Mayweather did fight baldomir didn´t he a guy WHO drains up to about the same weight as Canelo, and yes it was at welterweight, but mayweather was smaller himself back then. So if he could do it back then why not now? Mayweather don´t want this fight that´s the true, he will rather be the bigger guy against some smaller guy (like ricky hatton at welterweight) and he is aloud to.Posted May 18, 2013 4:12 am
Gonzo@ I agree,I was wondering about this guy who I won't even mention his name let alone reply with him that maybe it just happen that he is obsessed with Lewis and that's why he comments in every article related to klitchko and try to bash them nonstop but now I am 100% sure that these guy has a problem with white boxers because of the way he attacks everyone in here personally just because they criticize mayweather …
Gonzo of Nazareth
I'm dead serious about this. Try me if you think it's a bluff.
Repton Boxing Club
The offer is open for as long as you continue to infect these boards with your wretchedness SRED. We all know you ain't got nothing swinging between those chicken thighs of yours though. Talks tough over the Internet but in the real world is as meek as a lamb. LOLOLPosted May 17, 2013 9:19 am
Adrian, I DO think you're phony you ate pushing like mad for a 36 year old who weighed in at 146 to make ALL concessions to fight a 22 year old who comes to the ring at 172 pounds…Tell me you'd be OK with Mayweather outweighing an opponent by 22 pounds fight night… Now you will say "what about Marquez" because that's the LANE retort you miscreants use to try and get Floyd to accept your terms… Floyd weighed no more than 149 to Marquez 143 that's called boxing…. 22 pounds is ALOT…. Again am I clear?Posted May 16, 2013 10:51 pm
Adrian, see this is the difference you guys answer to me not vice versa, I cannot be goaded, chided, cajoled or baited…Think what you want I argue facts, boxing records, quality of opposition and quality of performances… GONE-SO is an idiot who rates the best fighter in the world as average or sub-par GTFOH you guys are fighting reality I'm embracing it….Posted May 16, 2013 10:44 pm
Adrian, you're a MASSIVE WIMP and yeah I said it… Are you REALLY whining to Gonzo like he's the principal??? HaHaHaHa I got you Gonzo AND Beard huddled up in the corner like a couple of women who just had a 3 for one discount on hysterectomies…Seriously be a man and a sound argument that goes beyond whining about how you want Mayweather to fight…Canelos gonna do as he's told and you and your headmaster GONE-SO are gonna continue to be lead by the nose, crushed and antagonized by me until I grow bored of educating you on a daily basis…What do you expect impotent cyber punk GONE-SO to do?? You guys can form like Voltron and at the end of the day I'm gonna Singlehandedly cancel your cartoon…Posted May 16, 2013 10:40 pm
Oh yeah there is, The Cobra I like Carl Froch. I wasn't happy at how easily SOG beat him, but respect to the better man. Kelly Pavlik was overrated, Hutton was okay, Klitschkos are future HOF, GGG I went through his resume, not even one boxer worth mentioning.Posted May 16, 2013 9:33 pm
I wasn't aware if there were any good " White " boxers around.:-)Posted May 16, 2013 9:23 pm
I meant "wich curent white boxer do you like?*Posted May 16, 2013 6:22 pm
Soooooo when are you gonna make good on any of your threats GONE-So?? You've been killing me and Mayweather for over a year yet he making 90 mill and I'm still taking a crap on your bigoted face… Sooner or later you gotta show and prove village dweller… Again we know you're ALL talk, I twist you mind and emotions more easily than an 8 year old childs… Again what are you gonna do PUNK?? More cyber threats? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!Posted May 16, 2013 1:52 pm
Relax Gonz, I admit to a bit of a cruel streak bursting that pre pubescent ego of yours that was hastily constructed behind a keyboard… Sad to watch you try and explain away your bigoted statements, unproved assertions and wanton threats of violence… I have seen your sometime cum receptacle Bears breakdown and whine in the same manner under my verbal lash… I guess cowards of your and Bears ilk naturally gravitate towards one and other instead of owning your rancid statements.. To his credit Bears tried to get creative and blamed his overt BIGOTRY on the teachings of Rap Group "Three Six Mafia" HaHaHaHa next time consult with your fellow Klansman before printing a retraction..!Posted May 16, 2013 12:57 pm
LMFAO @ Gonzo. Just say what you gotta say n stop blowing your own horn, see now.Posted May 16, 2013 12:35 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Gonzo has spoken (the post should hopefully appear shortly)Posted May 15, 2013 11:41 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Gonzo is about to speak.Posted May 15, 2013 11:38 pm
te tumbo
Floyd will dismantle Canelo at 147lbs but not at 154lbs and enough of the fight-night-weight outrage. the weigh-in is what counts, it's what's always counted. if you make weight, what you put your own body through afterwards is your responsibility. this was already considered when they got rid of same-day weigh-ins. hydration was determined to be the lesser evil to dehydration. ultimately, it's difficult to regulate a person's capacity for pain, sacrifice, and resilience. it's a brutal truth of Boxing that no fight-fan should delude themselves into thinking isn't very real.Posted May 15, 2013 10:46 pm
Floyd's not going to give UP 22 lbs like a SUCKER. HE knows as well as I DO that 20lbs advantage can overcome SKILLS. He worked his WHOLE LIFE to master his SKILLS SO why would he give that UP by giving a guy a 22 lbs advantage???? That would make him a DUMMY. And THAT he is NOT.Posted May 15, 2013 9:16 pm
Canelo, Floyds biggest threat?? The only BIGGEST of anything that Canelo is relative to Floyd is poundage…Gonzo was calling EVERY fighter Floyd faces a "blown up this or blown up that" meanwhile Canelo is a fight night LHW seeking his biggest payday against a guy who did NOT even make the WW limit.. He was 146, but of course the virulent hatred of this small town
Gonzo of Nazareth
Once again, these Floyd groupies don't want Floyd to test himself against the best or or take big risks. They will defend him no matter what he does and get all butt-hurt and precious and accuse his "detractors" and "haters" of being jealous of his success and material wealth and possessions. The object of their homo-erotic affections shamelessly ducks his biggest threat for the best part of a 100 years, making ridiculous stipulations and putting up obstacle after obstacle in the way to stop the fight happening, stipulations and obstacles that not one of said biggest threat's other opponents ever asked for or did, but they'll defend him regardless. And then they jump on the bandwagon that he's falsely created as a pretext to prevent to the fight from happening, claiming like him that they want to see the sport cleaned up of all these filthy PED cheats but at the same time, as they have done with every other PED in the sport who shares the same complexion as them, openly rooting for PROVEN cheats of that persuasion and ever so conveniently never mentioning anything about PEDs in discussions about match ups between any of those fighters and ones of a different persuasion. They blindly defend him when he shamelessly ducks his biggest threats even though the whole boxing world knows he's doing it. They defend him when he has a bout of severe roid rage and beats his babbymomma into a coma in front of his children and then like a demented maniac turning on the guards as they enter his cell, turns on them throwing triple uppercuts and check hooks with abandon at toddlers, trying to snuff his own children out of existence. Floyd and his legions of grotesque groupies are the scum of the Earth and they need to be exterminated like the vermin they are before they infect the next generation with their vile ugliness and stupidity.Posted May 15, 2013 7:55 pm
No. Floyd is letting Canelo and his crew know who calls the shots. And if Canelo wants to be able to call the shots some day, he can defeat Floyd at 147.Posted May 15, 2013 7:41 pm
Does anyone remember marquez going up in weight to fight mayweather who by the way , showed up above the weight limit on the weigh in and about 20 lbs heavier the day of the fight? Why wasnt weight an issue when it favored Mayweather? Ducking Canelo? I say if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its probably a duckPosted May 15, 2013 6:53 pm
I cannot recall a champion of a weight class (154 in this case), call out another champ of that same weight class, only to demand that they fight at a lower weight class (147). Is this action by Floyd unprecedented?Posted May 15, 2013 6:40 pm
Guys who think Mayweather is the longest running mirage in boxing are not gonna be swayed by anything macho notions of going to 160 are just attempts to drag this boxer down… Both Martinez and Pacquiao took possible career altering punishment facing guys who were much heavier fight night Margo and Chavez Jr… Neither Margo nor Chavez had the skills of PAC or Sergio yet their bulk allowed them to inflict extra damage… Floyd's no fool, he knows 147 is where he has topped out, the guy weighed in at 146 for his last bout spotting a guy 22-25 pounds is unnecessary…Canelos gotta concede some mass if he wants that FAT check… Or go back to filling the Bull Arena for short money…Posted May 15, 2013 5:21 pm
Pillowfist, the respect of Mayweathers detractors is out his reach and he knows that… He could let Canelo weigh 185 and they would deride him for not standing toe to toe or using his legs…Mayweathers a smart athlete who earned his position in the sport over 17 years, he's no different than Oscar, Leonard, or 8) Do Asian people mate for life? Or is it just too difficult to find someone who does not look like your last partner…Pacquaio calling the shots when they were on top… Canelos massive rehydration has now been documented and at 36 Floyd does not have to face the kid in HIS comfort zone to Floyd's disadvantage… The same haters that are riding Floyd to give up 22 pounds would want him dead if he brought that much bulk against another fighter so really it's a no win scenario… Canelo has not done enough to define Floyd, he will be another very good fighter made to look average by a master boxer… And the next MW or SMW will be trotted out until bulk or old age overcomes FMJ… He's NOT stupid…Posted May 15, 2013 4:45 pm
You just want to see Floyd Lose. I doubt if you are even a boxing fan. You are just a Hater sound like to me. Who will Mayweather have to fight in order for you to give him his do. This is really getting a little silly. Mayweather is the BEST right now. You don't have to like it. It is what it is.Posted May 15, 2013 4:30 pm
Why didn't DELA Hoya come down to fight Mayweather at 147??Posted May 15, 2013 4:27 pm
No. That's just a stupid question.Posted May 15, 2013 4:14 pm
Yes, Mayweather is ducking Canelo by asking him to come down to 147.Posted May 15, 2013 3:47 pm
because come fight night Floyd will be fighting a LHW not a JMW as you and him would like us to believe. If Canelo was a true JMW coming down wouldn't be so difficult but since his not this request is as far fetched as like asking Floyd to fight a LHW for a JMW title. Floyd is no ones fool especially dumb ass crackers who only wanna see his demise.Posted May 15, 2013 3:37 pm
May Baby!!!!! Let the kid fight at 154. He's coming in at 170 fight night. He'll be sucking wind by the fifth round. All you need to do is bank 3-4 rounds of the first 6 rounds and after that he's a sittng duck. your straight right will keep him off balance, his foot work is bad, run circles around this overblown Jr. middle weight. Get the respect of your detractors. They want to see you fight a much bigger, younger and stronger man than yourself. Beat these guys at their own game. I myself would like to see you take a chance like that. I know if you did that your respect level will go up big time. I'll also say that even if you did that people will us the excuse that Canelo killed himself o make 154 and he was too young. Mark my words!!!!Posted May 15, 2013 1:12 pm
This is what happens when fighters campeign at weights they don't belong in. How stupid do we sound talking about weight issues for a fight at 154 or whatever? If the fight is at 154 then sign on the dotted line and fight, all titles on the table. this nonsense about coming in 20+ lbs heavier, or cutting weight and weight restrictions is all BS. Plain and simple, it's unfair to ask a fighter to move up in weight and on fight night, be out weighted by 20 lbs. It's unfair to ask a guy to melt down to a weight division when you know he rehydrayes several weight divisions above that weight on fight night. I have a feeling that,if this fight is made, people on one sie or the onther will be disappointed.Posted May 15, 2013 1:02 pm
Blah Blah Blah, even Robert Garcia says there is no way that Mayweather should spot Canelo 20 plus pounds… And for your info Canelo did NOT make weight facing Matthew Hatton, again Alvarez has been melting down to a division he's not gonna be able to fight in shortly…Telling the older fighter he should casually give all the advantages to the newbie defies boxing tradition… Canelos got 2 options "take it or leave it"….Posted May 15, 2013 11:31 am
Adrian, it just went On Demand this past Saturday yet you have been whining for days??? So you had not even watched the bout yet you were droning on about it and matters peripheral?? But the plain truth is that you LOVE watching Floyd fight and you seem VERY invested in his next matchup…. You used the word "hate" which is as strong as it gets so this undermines the notion that you have a passive interest in this fighters career..Oh well like the rest of us you're just gonna have to stay tuned till the Worlds best fighter goes to work again..Posted May 15, 2013 11:02 am
I don't why the objective boxing fans are entertaining the trolls like Jason. That moron is beyond blind with Floyd hate. Mayweather must have all the odds stacked against him to suit Alvarez that's just plain moronic. Here's a little secret that GBP doesn't want people to recognise is the fact that Canelo is struggling to make 154lbs he has about 12 months tops. They want him to be a boxing star by that time due to the fact that if he goes up in weight without Floyd on his resume he loses out on a huge payday plus if he loses to Floyd he lost to the best boxer of this era. Plus at 160lbs he has a murderous row waiting on his irish looking ass and that's Martinez, GGG and Quillin. His team is hoping that by the time he moves up GGG and Quillin would've left MW due to the mega fights being a division higher with the most cash. They are wrong GGG and Quillin will have to duke it out first. Then whoever wins between Martinez and JCC Jr ultimately unifies. That would be by end of 2014. Meaning that Alvarez sooner or later has to fight people his size. Not once do we ever complain that the Klitschko brothers have a size advantage, coz HW is the ceiling full stop. I don't know how this debate got to the Heavies discussion. Double standards at its best. Just because someone can make the weight doesn't mean he is at that weight fight night. The day before weigh-in was made for health reasons not for disadvantaging the smaller guy. Cotto did against Chop Chop Corley and people complained when he came in 17lbs more than the JWW limit.Posted May 15, 2013 10:38 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
And my one to Malacnut?Posted May 15, 2013 10:25 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
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Here it is folks courtesy of the esteemed comrade Bears. Grazie Bears.
"Can't say enough about gonzo. This guy is EXACTLY what he says he is. Gonzo swoops in and drops pearls on the fraud nut gargling horde leaving them dumbfounded and silent. I never seen someone knockout so many fraud nut garglers with such few strikes as gonzo. Its like gonzo turns turns east side boxing into a steven segal movie."Posted May 15, 2013 10:12 am
Mayweather, running from the real challenge again. Deja vu. yeah he makes money, but history will prove his true colours. cherry picking paper champ who avoided all the risky fights.Posted May 15, 2013 10:12 am
Lol …I promise you I have never payed tower mayweather even his last fight with Guerrero it's on demand for free in showtime and I am not even thinking of watching let alone pay lol ..Posted May 15, 2013 8:46 am
Floyd has you right where he wants you dying to see his next contest!! And ready to pay to see him lose a scenario that he has denied you for 44 pro contests… Mayweathers counting down his career and if he can tick off 5 more W's he goes out on top… The last place his detractors want to see him…Posted May 15, 2013 8:35 am
That is a fact that they would be seperated by 20 or more pounds absent some sort of equalizer… And yeah you are whining something awful! But we all know you will pony up that cash to see FMJ do his business… It's must see TV…!Posted May 15, 2013 8:32 am
Yes I am FULL of hate toward the ones who avoids boxing that I worship and brings bs instead of fighting!!!!Posted May 15, 2013 8:00 am
Public Enemy
Trout wasn't over 170.. Canelo was 172+lbs for sure..Posted May 15, 2013 6:49 am
You say Canelo cannot go that low at 22 and Mayweather is saying he's not fighting that high 172 at the age of 36… Why would Alvarez needs trump the #1 fighter in the sports? The cash cow? AGAIN Canelo can walk but he's not getting everything suited to him he has not close to earned that… His team is calling out FMJ, who is counting down the days till he hangs them up… It's a shot that has a limited lifespan for Alvarez… Or again he can chase Cotto coming off 2 straight UD losses…????Posted May 15, 2013 3:22 am
Canelo is a very good young fighter, but before Trout I had never heard his fight night weights but when it was shown that BOTH he and Trout were over 170 I was like WOW!! But even Trout said "Canelos too Big" his opinion and Dan Rafael talked of the gap in weight… Truth is that Alvarez has not only been BIG for the weight, he had fought guys who were small for the weight.. Adrian I'm gonna be blunt your a complete phony, if Floyd had 22 pounds on a fighter the night of the fight you would be screaming bloody murder but since it's Mayweather you seek to disadvantage you are acting like this is a minor detail not worthy of discussion…Hey experts are discussing and FMJ has decided that at his age he does not have to make life that easy for a newbie…Posted May 15, 2013 3:17 am
Pacquiao is one of my favorite fighters but he and Canelo were fighting Shane when he could no longer compete… He was done pulling the trigger, the last guy to face him coming off a Big win and ranked in the sport was Floyd Mayweather… Mosley could not even get by Sergio Mora when PAC Man faced him to 6-1 odds…Posted May 15, 2013 3:10 am
Adrian, Facts are Facts and Hopkins tenure and standing in the sport were only about 10x Canelos and he STILL DROPPED down to make the fight… How hard is it for a 39 year old who had to train year round to make 160 to shave the extra pounds? Hopkins later had to go to LHW to continue his career…Canelo is a NOBODY compared to Hops at that point and certainly Floyd today so his dream of coming to the ring 22 pounds heavier than Floyd is OVER… He can take a pass and that's fine, go find some solid guys at the weight to bang with or drop the weight… But his massive weight gain was showcased against Trout and FMJ simply does not need to offer the kid those type of advantages in youth AND bulk…Posted May 15, 2013 3:07 am
I see mayweather lawyer fans of his on a full throttle defending their client yet again…Q says"mayweather paid his dues" lol…as if paqiao didn't pay his "dues"when he was a p4p king.
I wish they have a litle dignity and stop attacking a young fighter who is talented and with future just because is a threat to their hero…if the fight can't be made don't try to trash Canelo just because is a threat ,just until before Austin trout fight most of these same may fans were saying that Canelo didn't fight anyone and is not ready for mayweather but suddenly he is big now and their biggest enemy …lol
Sredmond— so now you are praising Hopkins for dropping a few pounds to fight delahoya but last night you said delahoya was stupid to go that high in weight ??? Lol…
BIG DADDY laughs at all the Mayweather cult who think Faux Mayweather is the GOAT. Hands down he may not even be in the top ten all time Faux might not even be the best boxer in his family…..BIG DADDY reminds you to look at the career of TGOAT Sugar Ray Robinson who's record was 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts at the pinnacle of his career. That 'was at a time when there was only one champ and fewer weight classes. Robinson had to fight and he beat Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan, Bobo Olsen, and had a series with Jake LaMotta, Faux Mayweather would run from all of those guys. Robinson went up from middleweight to nearly beat 175lb champ Joey Maxim was ahead on all score cards until he gave way to heat exaustion despite being ahead on all the score cards……Faux Mayweather is a great talent for his era but not GOAT! Enough of this silly talk! …BIG DADDY has spoken!Posted May 14, 2013 11:56 pm
A 154 champion asking another 154 champion who has a hard time making the weight to drop down to 147? Not a recipe to add to any GOAT argument.Posted May 14, 2013 9:17 pm
Limey jay
I hear a lotta people criticising floyd, for numerous reasons…..fighting smaller guys, guys on the slide, etc.etc….and their is certainly an argument for this to be true, but think for a moment about all the guys he has fought, all 44 of them, think about the fights they have had, think of all the times that you have seen them fight, think of how many times you have been entertained by them, watched them outbox, outfight, outwork their opponents….think of some of their greatest ring moments, some flashy fight ending combos, or brutal one punch K.O.s…..yeah I know …..there have been many great highlights .
Jason, you would put Mayweather in with Ward and anyone else.. I don't mind entertaining your prattle because my position is superior and Canelos size is being discussed by Trout, Dan Rafael and all the writers who are calling out his massive fighting weights relative to Floyds.. I encourage and revel in your whining in your world Mayweather let's the New Jack choose his gloves, in the real world Canelo can drop down to 147 for a night balloon to 165 or so like Ortiz and still enjoy being 14 years younger if that's too much he can chase Cotto coming off 2 losses in a row or fight another talented 154 pounder… My guess is he's gonna realize he should be honored to even be considered to share a ring with an ATG…Posted May 14, 2013 7:59 pm
no didnt see it. not a pactard sorry! saw him get ko'd by marquez though!Posted May 14, 2013 7:23 pm
machidi – i guess we want different things when we watch boxing thenPosted May 14, 2013 7:12 pm
redmond – excuses, excuses, excuses… you are not a true boxing fan…Posted May 14, 2013 7:09 pm
murderman .. you obviously didnt see the fight at all… it was 150 catchweight, and fight night marahario was over 17 pounds only, and bear in mind, manny had ever fought above 145 fight night, and was certainly not a major belt holder, and if you actually watched, magarito best rounds were towards the end, bar round 12, never once did he slow up…. so your argment is sillyPosted May 14, 2013 7:07 pm
For what it's worth (Not much), what does the WBA think of this? The WBA should contact Floyd ASAP and tell him to knock off the 147 talk and fight their other champ or Floyd loses his belt.Posted May 14, 2013 7:02 pm
Canelo really has no negotiating power. If he refuses to fight at 147 floyd will chose someone else and make a killing anyway. So really canelo doesnt have a choose. Either he wants to get paid or he doesnt!Posted May 14, 2013 7:01 pm
Boxings a serious sport where the consequences extend beyond losing face…Floyd Mayweather is discussing retirement, if Canelos the real deal at 22 he will take a shot at BY FAR the Greatest Fighter he will EVER face in what could be his most lucrative bout… I will accept him planting his feet and saying I only can face a fight night WW when I'm a fight night LHW but then he's gonna have to move in and create a record based on 154 pounders…
@ Jason- No my friend i beleive they fought catch weight 145 thats why cheato looked so deadPosted May 14, 2013 6:59 pm
muderman – well pac gave up over 17 pounds to margarita … and all the floyd fan boys slated him for the catchweight, thats kind of hypocritical dont you think ?:/Posted May 14, 2013 6:53 pm
te tumbo
Floyd's standing concession is planting himself at 147lbs and taking on all comers. no particularly valid reasons for Floyd to do anything else he doesn't want to do as far as weight is concerned. however, if it does become the deal-breaker that others are claiming, it will reveal that, for whatever reason, Floyd didn't really want this fight at 154lbs. despite successfully competing at that weight before.Posted May 14, 2013 6:17 pm
te tumbo
"Money" is smart to initiate negotiations from his comfort zone. it won't result in the 147lb weight limit. i don't think that Canelo can do it. but it will result in other concessions designed to compel Canelo to demonstrate with actions just how much he wants to be associated with Floyd's undefeated greatness. the ball is in Canelo's court. if he won't concede the condition he'll need to concede something (everything?) else to make this fight happen IF he really and truly wants it to happen.Posted May 14, 2013 6:14 pm
Oscar and Mosely fought Vargas and others who came in on the night of the fight at 170+lbs and they beat them. Cotto would have fought Canelo at 154lbs if he hadn't lost to Trout. If Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs, why can't he fight Canelo there? Floyd knows Canelo can't make 147lbs, so either Canelo has the choice to be foolish or the fight won't happen.Posted May 14, 2013 5:56 pm
am I banned or something ,my post are not being displayedPosted May 14, 2013 5:40 pm
Jason`i don't think he should go up and fight canelo at 154 because comes fight night canelo balloons up too much and should be fighting ggg/ward at his weight he comes in at and Floyd at the higher weight isn't going to move like Floyd fighting at welter,he's not a shop warn 36 but he's up in age when all the greats start to decline why should he give canelo an advantage now when he payed his dues why should he have to put his body through unnecessary changes when he holds the cards ,I don't agree with canelo moving down to fight at that welterweight size either cause it's not fair to him and you already can hear what ppl. are going to say,"the only way Floyd beat him is because he was drained" yeah ok..but let's be straight canelo is fighting cotto next and Mayweather is going to lock horns with Danny,Alexander or brook is my guess…yezzzir!Posted May 14, 2013 5:38 pm
dont get ot twisted. canelo fights at 154 but he doesnt weiggh anywhere near 154! Try 170 plus! Who the hell woukld fight a guy w a 20lb weight advantage! Thats stupid! Whats more fair. Canelo losing 7lbs. Or Floyd fight him 20 lbs heavier. Haters say floyd move up. But lets be serious and fair!Posted May 14, 2013 5:37 pm
Floyd's just trying to create drama to build up the fight interest to get big#'s. He holds a strap in the same division and instead of unifying titles at 154 he wants to drag the other guy down a weight class? I don't think so. At least I hope not.Posted May 14, 2013 5:33 pm
as you must know at 147 its a pretty much all bets are off… but hey this is just my opinion, i would rather see a good scrap then a foregone conclusionPosted May 14, 2013 5:27 pm
as you must know at 147 its a pretty much all bets are off… but hey this is just my opinion, i would rather see a good scrap then a foregone conclusion, if the fight is at 147, i wont watch it, maybe the highlights on you tube… but thats about it. Anyway, its going round in circles now… im out!!! peacePosted May 14, 2013 5:27 pm
sredmond – its not about double standards, its about a good fight.. mayweather is not 36 in boxing years , not even close… as you keep saying, and its true, he has been dominating people… soooo on that trial of thought, he must be favorite at any weight, so surely as a fan, you would rather the fight at 154 no????Posted May 14, 2013 5:26 pm
wtf is wrong with this websitePosted May 14, 2013 5:26 pm
sredmond – its not about double standards, its about a good fight.. mayweather is not 36 in boxing years , not even close… as you keep saying, and its true, he has been dominating people… soooo on that trial of thought, he must be favorite at any weight, so surely as a fan, you would rather the fight at 154 no???? as you must know at 147 its a pretty much all bets are off… but hey this is just my opinion, i would rather see a good scrap then a foregone conclusion, if the fight is at 147, i wont watch it, maybe the highlights on you tube… but thats about it. Anyway, its going round in circles now… im out!!! peace!Posted May 14, 2013 5:25 pm
Jason, the planet thinks he's the best that's why he made 85 mill (highest paid athlete on earth) and is consensus P4P #1 in the sport I'm just one guy …..Again you can fight the tide till your hearts content, his accomplishments have been noted and rewarded for 17 years… Fighter of the Year first time when he was 21, when Canelo was what??? 7 years old?? Nothing Mayweather has done sufficiently impressed you in 17 years what has Canelo done in his short career that has?? You don't want to give FMJ Credit for the HOF names he beat, but you want to give Canelo credit for WHAT EXACTLY that puts him on par with FMJ?? Names please?? Trout is all you've got and Cotto aside what has he done? Delvin Rodriguez ?? You guys worry about a 22 year olds stamina vs a 36 year old? That's shamefulPosted May 14, 2013 5:06 pm
5 weight classes bigger? Serious bias from author.Posted May 14, 2013 4:59 pm
"Bhop dropped down to 157 to face the then Big Dog ODH" Then ODH threw the fight. Then ODH and B-HOP became business partners.Posted May 14, 2013 4:58 pm
Mayweathers not even in his prime so the double standards are nuts the man is still 36 despite his performances…Again if he's no willing to spot Canelo 22 pounds I see no issue with that… You already deem him a Great fighter Jason so you put the onus on Canelo to show us he's the man…!Posted May 14, 2013 4:46 pm
Q/REdmond – who do you want him to fight then ? may i ask ?Posted May 14, 2013 4:38 pm
Q/Redmond – ironically i actually do think he is a fantastic boxer, the best i have ever seen live.. GOAT nahh i dont think that, maybe has the talent but not the heart…. But i do not fall for his hype, and the truth is, whenever there is a real live danger, he goes missing or comes up with silly demands, so for me he is not good for the sport… but this is just my opinion… as i said before, the vast majority of his so called names on his CV were not prime names, most of them were on the slide. But the way you too talk about him its like teenagers with a crush hahahaPosted May 14, 2013 4:37 pm
Funny, this guy can't go to 147 to fight the guy who can't legitimately make 154? And people want to cry foul for one but not the other? I call BS, somethings gotta give, and the dictator shall be the man who has paid his dues. Hence PAYING YOUR DUES. There are 140ers with more credentials than Canelo, that kid can't dictate anything. If he can't make 147, then he needs to shut up and make his legacy with fighters in divisions he fits into.Posted May 14, 2013 4:32 pm
Malignaggi and Garcia see the obvious, Floyd Mayweather is head and shoulders above the entire sport there is NO ONE who has exhibited his level of dominance and consistency over that time period against World Class boxers…. 50% of his career was spent in World Championship fights 21 bouts and he has faced something like 18 current or former World Champions… Canelos his foot servant drop the weight boy or keep doing open scoring in Texas for single digit millions…Posted May 14, 2013 4:29 pm
saw* – the guy doesn't last long.Posted May 14, 2013 4:27 pm
Canelo is supposed to "have a chance" based on being 14 years younger and obviously bigger no matter where the fight takes place… Ortiz made 147 and showed up for the bout at 164… If Canelo cannot beat a 36 year old WW fighter with 14 years and a minimum of 12-15 pounds in body mass then how good is Canelo REALLY? I would give Sakio Bika a shot against Floyd and he is a CRUDE yet really strong fighter because Bika would be so much HEAVIER and stronger than FMJ….But would Bika be the better man or the bigger man? There is a reason we have weight divisions and the truth is that Canelos strategy has been ripped from behind the curtain, boil down to 154, rehydrate to LHW and then fight former Jr Welters and Welters like OLD Shane Mosley, Jose Miguel Cotto, Josesito Lopez, Matthew Hatton and Kermit Cintron…. Austin Trout is the only notable Jr MW he EVER fought…. Who has MORE to prove at 154, Canelo or Mayweather who is a WW as evidenced by his fighting there all but 2x in the last 6 years…Posted May 14, 2013 4:26 pm
I'm just telling you the facts. Robert Garcia, trainer of the year… Paulie Malignaggi (world champion) and Mickey Garcia (will be a P4Per after his fight with JuanMa IMO) ..and the trainer of Fernando Vargas, thinks that FMJ is the greatest boxer in the history of the sport. I sat there and watched the guy that just fought Sergio, kind of snubbing Floyd before the fight, and saying he was going to lose to Guerrero, then proceed to praise him endlessly as the best in the sport. Floyd did over a million with a no name (but P4Per at the time) in Guerrero, I don't think people will be too deterred when he fights bigger names in his next and last 5 bouts. Don't delude yourself. Floyd didn't lose any fans from that bout, jaja. He did gain admirers however, and I'm speaking factually. World Champion admirers… Trainer of the year admirers. You were never a fan and you will never be a fan, and you're just like any other person who hates the kingpin of a sport, and want to always discredit and hope they lose, but you have to realize that you don't speak for his fans to say he's losing any. That's what you want, but the numbers don't lie. I think it's you who wants to suck canelo, but we already say that he has no stamina so don't get your hopes up, it will be short joy for you.Posted May 14, 2013 4:24 pm
Bhop dropped down to 157 to face the then Big Dog ODH… Canelo will do as he has been told like all 22 years olds in this position should or he will keep selling cheap tickets in the Alamodome…. Floyd was involved in the sports biggest fight 6 years ago when Canelo was barely a freshman in Highschool….Its Floyd Mayweathers world and if Canelo wants a shot at the throne he will have to concede some of the ridiculous poundage he wants to come to the ring with…Imagine how Mayweathers bouts would look if he was 22 pounds heavier than his opponents coupled with HIS skills….??? No fight would get out of the first round…Posted May 14, 2013 4:20 pm
TestPosted May 14, 2013 4:17 pm
Jason, Gonzo, Bears and the rest can rage on and lament the HARD truth of Mayweathers 17 years of flawless dominance and concoct all manner or rationale for why he suddenly needs a guy who was still growing pubic hair when Floyd was besting Oscar De La Hoya in the BIGGEST fight in boxing history 6 years ago but these 3 idiots all have ONE thing in common (THEY ARE FAILURES) Mayweather is #1 in EVERY category in boxing P4P#1, Drawing power, Undefeated and the list goes on…. When Bernard Hopkins who was a big MW got the chance to face then Cash Cow Oscar De La Hoya at 157 pounds to compensate concede some of his size he did it and he knocked Oscar out… Bernard was 39 years old and had to later travel to LHW to keep plying his trade… EVERYONE knows that physically Mayweather is topped out at WW and a couple of forays to 154 only prove that because he has never even weighed the limit on fight night…. Canelo has been discovered as a guy roasting himself down in order to enter the ring as a LHW against primarily guys who made their bones at 147 and below… I applaud him actually facing a young true 154 pounder in Trout but he has only just begun the journey towards respectability… All Mayweather detractors KNOW that Floyds skillset renders him pretty invincible at 147, and they would like to punish him by finding the biggest opponents they can think of to negate the skills he worked his entire life for… We have heard MW's like GGG, Martinez and now Canelo who in addition to being 14 years younger expects a guy who is about 10x more important to the sport than the current HW Champion to spot him 20-25 pounds fight night…. Its NOT happening kids and the sooner you put away you Kleenex and accept that the easier your lives become…AGAIN this is reality not the fertile ground of your fevered imaginationsPosted May 14, 2013 4:13 pm
Q – you really do wanna suck this guys co*k dont you lol!!Posted May 14, 2013 3:46 pm
HOLD UP EASTSIDE BOXING`this slow down your posting too fast crap has to be banned A.S.A.P..in the words of sweet brown (aint no body got time fa dat)Posted May 14, 2013 3:42 pm
Public Enemy
And a weight drained Hopkins still Knocked DLH out with a Tummy Tap…Posted May 14, 2013 3:37 pm
We saw MW King Bernard Hopkins who had 10x the stature and tenure in the sport as Alvarez, dropping down to 157 to face the smaller ODH… Hopkins was 39 years old, when he made the sacrifice for the BIGGEST fight and paycheck of his career…Bhop won the bout and eventually moved up to LHW bypassing 168…. Canelo is 22 years old and we are on to him ballooning like crazy post Trout, the GREAT FMJ is not a mindless cattle of an athlete that's why he's not gonna bow to the type of mental midgets that pervade boxing forums… He is most comfortable at WW, he's 36, he's only had 1 fight in the last 6 years at 154 and it's clear that 147 is the place for him… 2 members of the P4P list may have been damaged against bigger men Martinez against the unusually large Chavez and Paquaio against Margarito who seemed to take a step from him during his performances in the aftermath of that bout… Mayweather has already attacked the scales to the tune of 5 weight classes he is perfectly sensible if he chooses NOT to spot this kid 22-25 pounds the night of the bout… Canelo is either gonna take risks in order to get in Floyd's position or he's gonna go back to selling cheap seats in the Alamodome…He is being told his options because Floyd was 1/2 of the biggest PPV in boxing history 6 years ago when Canelo was still trying to grow pubic hair…Posted May 14, 2013 3:36 pm
Jason` this cat just made over 1 mil ppvs with a name like guerrero on there people pay to see him dissect and they pay to watch him get decapitated so the numbers are there,grant it a name like canelo would do massive but Floyds star power is alive and well…um jus sayn brah!!Posted May 14, 2013 3:36 pm
limey jay … barcelona… nahh mate your way off, more like the old great Ac Milan… defence masters…
I say let Canelo fight Cotto and put Cotto out of his misery, right PE?Posted May 14, 2013 3:31 pm
@ boxe0~ Floyd punked out big time. That's why I don't like that catch weight nosense. pick the division you want to fight in and make it happen. Like I said, these guys are looking for every advantage. I think the fight will be made at a catch weight and if canelo is smart he won't put his belts on the line.Posted May 14, 2013 3:31 pm
Public Enemy
Delahoya damanded a Catch weight to Hopkins and made him starve himself down to 156lbs from 160lbs..Posted May 14, 2013 3:30 pm
What happened in Floyd vs Marquez?Posted May 14, 2013 3:27 pm
I'm not a big fan of catch weights or fighters having to lose weight or fight out of their comfort zone just to make a fight happen. But if either Canelo or Floyd give in to the demands of the other they would put themselves at a great disadvantage. I think we can all agree on that point. We must remember that 154 is Floyds fifth weight class and fighting Canelo at 154 knowing the kid comes in on fight night damn near a light heavy weight is a tall order to ask of Floyd. That weight difference would be close to 45lbs more than where Floyd started. Just think there are good fighters that can't handle moving up 1 division in their career, Floyd has done it successfully 4 times. Now, Canelo is a big Jr. middle weifght, it's just as unfair to ask the kid to cut a huge amount of weight. This we all know would make him vey weak in the fight and it seems that Canelo does have some stamina troubles, this would, I'm sure would make his stamina issues worse. As much as I hate to admit it , I think some weight issues must be made. A catch weight were no titles are on the line. No catch weight , make the fight at 154 but, limit how much weight Canelo can gain after official weigh in. I hate that but it seems to be the only fair way for both fighters.Posted May 14, 2013 3:23 pm
Floyd Mayweather
Cluck cluck cluck brawk brawk brawk!Posted May 14, 2013 3:03 pm
Jason, losing fans gaining admires. Trainer's of the years and world champions are saying Floyd is the Greatest boxer of all time now. He even made a fan of the guy that had Sergio on his butt.Posted May 14, 2013 3:03 pm
Floyd puts his body threw crap moving up in weight. If that fight is legit, then why can't Canelo move down to fight a guy who can't make the weight when moving up?Posted May 14, 2013 3:01 pm
malchi – im not sure about that mate, after this latest one, he is losing fans very quickly…Posted May 14, 2013 2:55 pm
Limey jay
Don't matter who floyd fights, wether they are 20lbs heavier,born on a Tuesday, or have an aunt called Brian with a moustache and a limp……it don't matter , because no one can hit him, not with anything that will do any damage anyhow…..he don't fight like a normal fighter, he is safety, safety , safety…..gotva lot of respect for the fella , bu he is boring to watch.
mag – maybe he's calling him out because he has one of the belts in his division… just a guess!! hahaha as strange as they may sound to you, it does happen :/Posted May 14, 2013 2:52 pm
Mag: and whoelse is he going to fight that would excite boxing fans on those 4 fights remaining? Not looking good considering what GB and Showtime has in their stable.Posted May 14, 2013 2:34 pm
Jason -yeah if we listen to sredmond everyone shold just Bowe down to floyed and give him the victorys without even fighting them …
Mag`or Canelo needs to go get a catchweight from 160 he's not willing to go down mayweathers not willing to go up so it has to be respected Floyd call the shots…yezzzir!Posted May 14, 2013 2:22 pm
LOL I swear it's always a double standard when it comes to Floyd. Now he's ducking Canelo because he wants him to fight him at his weight??? Isn't Canelo the one who is constantly calling Floyd out. If he wants to fight him that bad he should take his ass down to 147 or stfu. I personally think Canelo should be calling out guys at his own weight which is 154… There are plenty of people at that weight..Posted May 14, 2013 2:17 pm
Public Enemy
Mayweather may have a rematch with Cotto is Canelo is too chicken to take on Mayweather… then Canelo will go on to lose to Cuban Lara, Quinlin, Rosado and the others he's been avoiding..Posted May 14, 2013 2:16 pm
Boxeo`don't forget Floyd has to fight 5 more times so maybe Canelo will fall into one of those categories and maybe he wont but whoever he chooses i'm sure it's going to be an exciting event because whenever he's in the ring it calls for entertainment ppv sales aint going no where,half watches the mans perfection and half is praying for his down fall the dudes top chef when he's out there cooking up those recipes, boxing so masterful showing the true meaning of displaying the sweet science…..yezzzir!Posted May 14, 2013 2:09 pm
stuck in a moment
Can we stop with this topic and threads on this GBP will not make this fight. Maybe 2 years from now. Maybe but not even close nowPosted May 14, 2013 2:03 pm
Floyd's PPV status is on the decline. If he doesn't fight Canelo, its going to drop coz who else is out there fans willing to see him fight?Posted May 14, 2013 1:54 pm
Mma fighter
I think Rickey Hatton is a great fight for the great onePosted May 14, 2013 1:52 pm
Mma fighter
Let him fight Kahn and Hatton same night that will make Floyd lover happyPosted May 14, 2013 1:49 pm
bears – thanks mate, yeah that gonzo character is funnyPosted May 14, 2013 1:41 pm
happyboy- im not a fan of either, it was just obvious with the ped thing that he wasnt sure if he could win, otherwise why ask, and also i know for a fact that peds need longer than couple of weeks to take affect!!… i think you are the naive one to think floyd was not up to some mind game… but call me ignorant and the like, and yet you are the one who is complaining about a potentially great scrap, which mayweather is still the overwhelming favorite, because your boy might have to really dig in deep to get the win…. i think your watching the wrong sport mate… that wrestling thing is more for you i reckon..
Well that fight is not happening at 147lbs. Canelo is a big boy no way is he making that weight. Thats why Canelo should look elsewhere and let Mayweather rule the 147lbs division while Canelo rules the 154lbs division.Posted May 14, 2013 1:39 pm
malchidi – im not so sure about that… mayweather knows canelo would be a huge PPV, he is a rising star there is no doubt, he is a higher profile than most others… i think he wants the fight, but he wants it so the odds are heavily in his favour, hence the 147 request… that of course is just my speculation…Posted May 14, 2013 1:32 pm
Either do what Floyd Says or get the _uck out, Floyd is a welterweight if you want to fight him you come to him he aint got to come to you. Floyd is the one bringing in the money, you either go to where the money is or dip, end of story!Posted May 14, 2013 1:30 pm
Mma fighter
Since Saul hasn't beat anyone which great fighter has Floyd beat has anyone really looked at may weathers record his best win was Diego iam confused go look at lt then look at there weight classes and there record of the fighters he beat I mean wake up he has cherry picked and avoid all power punching fighters and then waited till they were punch drunk fightersPosted May 14, 2013 1:27 pm
Here we go again another Floyd circus to avoid another fighterPosted May 14, 2013 1:26 pm
Jason – if your idea of a fair contest is matching a WW against a LHW so be it. You wanna call me names too, knock yourself out. You guys showed the same arrogance and ignorance during the drug test demands by Floyd but guess what Pacman is demanding the same mutually applied drug tests that he refused and was supported by your ignorant, bias ass. Let Cinnamon fight Cotto for all I care but he too demands a mutually applied drug test and a weight rehydration clause ( I wonder why) lmfao @ ignorant white boys, you so transparent.Posted May 14, 2013 1:11 pm
Actually, Floyd is doing Canelo a favor by asking to fight at 147….cause we all know damn well that Canelo CANNOT and WILL NOT beat Floyd, Canelo is simply NOT ready!Posted May 14, 2013 1:08 pm
Proud African
Mayweather is the boxing boss. He calls the shots.Posted May 14, 2013 1:06 pm
BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)
Jason good posting. Can't say enough about gonzo. This guy is EXACTLY what he says he is. Gonzo swoops in and drops pearls on the fraud nut gargling horde leaving them dumbfounded and silent. I never seen someone knockout so many fraud nut garglers with such few strikes as gonzo. Its like gonzo turns turns east side boxing into a steven segal movie. Lol.Posted May 14, 2013 1:01 pm
mookie blaylock
Smh floyds turds calling mayweather a "king"Posted May 14, 2013 12:45 pm
happyboy – again without bring the whole ped thing again, as its been done… but, you really do your homework, peds to have any meaningful affect need longer than a week, they need longer than two weeks, before you get noticable affects..Posted May 14, 2013 12:36 pm
ernie – totally, as talented as he is, and he is an amazing boxer, there will always be a question mark, as when the biggest challenges were available he disappeared. (or come up with silly demands)Posted May 14, 2013 12:33 pm
happyboy – you know what mate.. you carry on watching mayweather fights where you know he's going to win, i wont, simple as that… in your logic..many, many fighters who rehdrate are actually fighting in different divisions.. but now as it relates to mayweather, we should all change the rules, just like we needed to change the testing system… do you not think there is a trend here.. when there is a live opponent, all these demands suddenly appear… and lastly… so judging by your posts, you think it is a miss match canelo vs mayweather and mayweather will get blown away. if they fight at 154 ??? Mmmm okPosted May 14, 2013 12:31 pm
Public Enemy
If Canelo is afraid of Mayweather then Miguel Cotto has already said he'd be more then happy to take on Cinnabum as long as Cinnabum agrees to Random Blood testing and weight gain limits..Posted May 14, 2013 12:27 pm
lol. As I said before, that fight will never happen. Canelo at 147lbs? Hes too big to come down to that weight.Posted May 14, 2013 12:25 pm
Jason – you may act ignorant as much as you want it does absolutely nothing for the cause. Coming in at fight night as a LHW means your opponent is facing a LHW not a JMW even if it is for a JMW title maybe that's cool where you come from but unfair practises get you no praise where I'm from nor matter who you are. I sense the same arrogance and ignorance as when we were all debating sometimes arguing the mutually applied PED demands by Floyd to Pac now many boxers are making the same demands including Pacman (now that Marquez has punched some sense into him,lol) to Rios. Let's be objective this time gentleman, we've been here before. I won't lie to you now that I know this information on Cinnamon I have less respect for him as I believe boxers like Lopez were beaten on the scales, the night before the fight was a mere formality, what'd we expect from WW fighting a LHW. I wait the day we bring back the same day weigh in to root out these cheaters.Posted May 14, 2013 12:15 pm
The Prince
Beno – spot on comment.Posted May 14, 2013 12:07 pm
Jason – you may act ignorant as much as you want it does absolutely nothing for the cause. Coming in at fight night as a LHW means your opponent is facing a LHW not a JMW even if it is for a JMW title maybe that's cool where you come from but unfair practises get you no praise where I'm from nor matter who you are. I sense the same arrogance and ignorance as when we were all debating sometimes arguing the mutually applied PED demands by Floyd to Pac now many boxers are making the same demands including Pacman. Let's be objective this time gentleman, we've been here before. I won't lie to you now that I know this information on Cinnamon I have less respect for him as I believe boxers like Lopez were beaten on the scales the fight was a mere formality. I look forward to seeing this dude vs guys his size not this wool his pulling over our eyes.Posted May 14, 2013 12:06 pm
mayweather is always trying to gain an unfair advantage, thats why he will never be in the same league as hearns/SRL/duranPosted May 14, 2013 11:59 am
happyboy – what are you talking about??? who is the favorite at 154 mayweathre or canelo ??? do they both hold a belt ??? yes… does canelo hold a middle or super middle belt ??? no.. if he doesnt want it, fair enough, but 147 is just stupid… and you cant change the rules for him, just so he minimise his chances of losing…. either he relinques his belt , or fights, simple really.. your talking like its david vvs golaith here.. lol!!! mayweather is the absolute favouritePosted May 14, 2013 11:58 am
Jason your right in saying that mayweather shoud relinquish the light middleweight belt because he does hold a title there but mayweather doesn't even fight at that weight when he's fought there he comes in under that limit in both fights campaigning there,he's not even a big welterweight and he understands this and is simply saying i'm not catch weighting and if you really want me come and get me ,i paid my dues why am i suppose to chase you up there what do u actually bring to the table compared to dela hoya and cotto and you fight at middle weight comes fight night…yezzzir!Posted May 14, 2013 11:53 am
Jason – a prerequisite of a good scrap is level playing fields eg : drug tests/ weight. Having a 36yr old coming in @151lbs vs a heavy punching 22yr old coming in @172lbs doesn't strike me as a recipe for a good scrap maybe an unfair scrap yes eg : Lopez vs Alvares. This Alvares should be fighting GGG, Martinez, Ward or Froch and let's see how he goes vs guys his size.Posted May 14, 2013 11:52 am
whats all this crap – canelo is suddenly a LHW, have you heard yourselves … excuses , excuses… canelo is the JUNIOR MIDDLE WEIGHT champ, not anything else… he makes the weight.Posted May 14, 2013 11:42 am
Exiled Yank – i dont care who has the cards, all i know , is that a fight at 154, mayweather is the absolute favourite… at 147… they might aswell refuse betsPosted May 14, 2013 11:39 am
happyboy – LHW also rehydrate, its all relativePosted May 14, 2013 11:36 am
happyboy – thats not true LHW also rehydrate, its all relative.. ask yourself this, if it was any other fighter who held a belt in the same division, would we be having this debate at all, would cotto demand such things, and he is no bigger than floyd.Posted May 14, 2013 11:32 am
Beno – manny was moving up and he was a lot smaller, floyd holds a belt, its a little different now isnt it, floyd saying : yeah im a champ in your division, but as you pose too much of a threat, i will only fight you if we fight in another one, where i know by about round 6 you will be gassed " .Posted May 14, 2013 11:30 am
all i hear is excuses, excuses… what ever he rehydrates too, it doesn't matter, he makes weight.. thats all that counts… mayweather holds a belt , he must defend it or give it up.. its not gunna happen, because mayweather doesnt take risks… so all you die hards fans of his, can sleep easy, as his next fight will be just as calculated as the recent rest, with the odds stacked in his favour before he even thows a punch…. probably Kahn or someone like that…Posted May 14, 2013 11:27 am
Where were you when Manny was weight draining all those so called "bigger" men he fought just a few years ago? I never read any such articles then. Hypocrites all of you. Besides, Floyd never mentioned anything, at least not publicly, about Canelo coming down to welterweight and until he does that, maybe everyone should engage in other profitable activities. And since when was it fair to side with a guy younger by 14yrs, fighting an older guy 20lbs lighter on fight night?…Whoa you must have a wrapped sense of fairness or maybe it's prejudice.Posted May 14, 2013 11:26 am
Actually Hatton called out Floyd, so he moved up to fight him. Marquez called out Floyd so he needed to move up. Canelo is the one calling out Floyd. What is it with these bigger fighters always calling out Floyd?Posted May 14, 2013 11:21 am
Tell me good fans, would we have this issue if this fight ACTUALLY did take place at the DIVISION where both fighters hold titles 154lbs,NO!. Problem is the fact that come fight night this fight will have a WW vs a LHW, thats a difference of 4 divisions. Why does boxing as a sport have these divisions if fights are not made on them? We all talk about fairness in the Game yet having a LHW beating on WW & JWW is not fair game at all. Someone is doing something wrong and thats what needs to be fixed but not by tilting the scales to suit one boxer at the expense of another. I don't want Canelo weaking himself to WW nor do I expect Floyd to fight a LHW but I do want the fight to happen. Thus my suggestion of a rehydration clause as a mitigating factor in order to make this a FAIR contest. Canelo is a 22 yr old young, vicious champ while Floyd is a 36yr old trialed and tested old great. This fight needs to happen but if we all get emotional and base our intent on unfair practises this is gonna end up much like Pac vs Floyd whereby fans don't get to see the fight happen and now Pac is busy demanding the same tests he totally refused to take 3 yrs too late. Floyd has a valid point not wanting to face a LHW but he too can't expect that LHW to come down to WW. A compromise from both has to be made as I don't want to see another Ali vs Holmes and believe me if the day comes where Floyd is to loose then let him loose the fight in the ring not on the scales.Posted May 14, 2013 11:05 am
We cannot forget that Mayweather has refused to fight Hatton and Marquez at 140 lbs . Mayweather is a very good fighter but unlike S. Leonard, T. Hearns or a R. Duran he does not believe that he can beat top boxers at their prime or at their weight class.Posted May 14, 2013 10:59 am
I like Canelo but he's NOBODY in the annals of boxing history compared to Floyd Mayweather… If that kid quit, got knocked out forever or retired he would be remembered more for the color of his hair than he would his career… Floyd Mayweathers a living legend in the sport…And if Alvarez wants a fight with him hes gotta do what they all do and that's bow down… Floyd was fighter of the year when he was YOUNGER than Canelo and that was 15 years ago…. That kid controls nothing relative to FMJ….Posted May 14, 2013 10:55 am
Jason`i was saying that Canelo comes in as a middle weight size come fight night merely just being sarcastic,pay attention son….eazy!Posted May 14, 2013 10:50 am
Jason i was stating that canelo fights at a middle weight size come fight night, i was merely being sarcastic son,pay attention my man…eazy!Posted May 14, 2013 10:46 am
Jason my point is he fights at a middle weights size, i was merely being sarcastic my man, pay attention my dude…yeezziir!Posted May 14, 2013 10:44 am
Mayweather is 147 fighter! why should he move up to fight the young and less popular guy?Posted May 14, 2013 10:38 am
Exiled Yank
Jason – Canelo is the LMW champ. He holds the WBC, WBA (or at least part of it) and the Ring belt. He's the man at 154: The first true champ in the division since Winky. But you are right that FM still holds the WBA Super Championship according the WBA while Canelo is the WBA Unified Champ. The WBA is so incredibly messed up – it makes no sense at all. Anyhow, Canelo is the true 154 lb champ, just like FM is the true 147 lb champ. I'd still rather see the fight at 154, but FM holds all the cards in every negotiation at this point, so he will probably get what he wants, or walk away from a big payday. People can say all they want about FM being greedy, but don't forget he walked away from his two biggest paydays when he refused to rematch DLH and didn't take on Pac. Both of those guys walked away from the biggest purse in history, so it's not all about money. It seems pride is part of it too.Posted May 14, 2013 10:33 am
why on earth would the light middle champ fight another light middle champ, at welterweight …Posted May 14, 2013 10:20 am
Pete Wells – what are you talking about – ward is super middle champ, sergio is middle champ, canelo is light middle champ, and here is the key fact : MAYWEATHER IS LIGHT MIDDLE CHAMP…Posted May 14, 2013 10:17 am
The facts are if, he is on the limit at 154, how can he possibly come down to 147, it cant work, the fight will not be worth watching… that is the simple truth… hopefully broner has a good win at welter against paulie, and they make that fight instead, if mayweather doesn't want anymore 154 fights… But if thats the case, come out and say it, rather than trying to con the public of more money for an unbalanced fight…. Maybe a 152 catchweight would be ok.. just to even up things a little bit.. but then again, he is 154 belt holder, so the fight is legit…Posted May 14, 2013 10:15 am
Pete Wells
Cindanelo wants a big payday, he can get it if he fights Ward. But GB & the flunkies there know he can't win that fight with Ward. So they are coming after the only other money maker in the business, & they have a big group of haters following them. Reminds me of when the mob chased down Frankenstein in the movie. LOL!!!! Cindanelo will never get this fight until he starts kissing the right a** & believe me it damn sure isn't GB & their crew. No matter what the public thinks or says, all roads to a big payday leads through Mayweather. Like it or not Cindanelo can't & will not call any shots in the decision to make this fight happen. He's not the PPV big draw, and that Texas fight with Trout proves it. Anytime you can buy a ticket for the price of a Happy Meal to see this guy, than you know he's not what people try to make him out to be. Sure all the Mexicans & white haters will support him. But regardless he can't call any shots when it comes to TMT. But dream on haters & keep running your mouths about this fighter is affraid of that fighter & on & on. Cindanelo might be able to call a few shots if he fights someone his size like a Ward or Sergio, but even then he's going to get his a** whooped by them. The kid doesn't have the skills at this point to make the money he wants. Maybe once GB realize this they will stop trying to hype this fool up & move him along the way other fighters have been.Posted May 14, 2013 10:07 am
160# limit on fight night woulk be okay imo.Posted May 14, 2013 10:06 am
He should come down to 147 if he wants to fight him so badly. Floyd is the king and does not need to fight heavy. too much size advantage for Canelo…Posted May 14, 2013 10:04 am
my bad – its was 17 + pounds , not too far away, and yet all the weird floyd fans slagged him off for having a catchweightPosted May 14, 2013 9:53 am
rod – why would you want to comprimise him.. he has a small chance as it is… pac gave away 20 + pounds to margarita, and he got slated for a catchweight…Posted May 14, 2013 9:48 am
malchidi — what a stupid thing to say.. his best weight is middle, yet he is never fought there, and he is the unified light middle champion…. right, good thinking there mate, keep it upPosted May 14, 2013 9:47 am
10lb advantage to Canelo on fight night just about the same as Cotto enjoyed. 160lb fight night weight limit. Then we could possibly get this fightPosted May 14, 2013 9:43 am
we want to see the best fighting the best in both their best conditions but canelos bet condition is middle weight,floyds not chasing canelo all he is stating is that if canelo really wants the fight he needs to come to him..its simple!!Posted May 14, 2013 9:41 am
people keep saying 160 cap and all that…, NOOOO if you change canelo's preperation you will weaken him, if he is used hydrating to more, then you cant change that, it will compromise him. Thats worse than having a catchweight of say 151/152.. significantly worse… Canelos has an outside chance as it is, in his present fighting conditions.. if you alter that, you deny us the fans a better fight… and the fight becomes another almost pre determined win… And people complaining about the 20 pound difference fight night… the weird floyd fans who seem more concerned about his 0 then a decent boxing fight – please remind me::: what was the difference in weight between pac and magarito when they fought ???Posted May 14, 2013 9:35 am
Blaze – i just read your post, your right about peds , and its something which the weird floyd fans cant get their heads around, peds take time to have an affect.. and it absolutely takes more than a week, peds are taken in the off seasons… sure you can get quick fixes for fight night, but since he agreed to blood testing straight after, that rules it out… and in floyds retirements, i would bet everything i owned that he was on the Growth hormones, again pure speculation, but it fits the character of the man… when he came back, he looked bigger…Posted May 14, 2013 9:27 am
There was already an uproar because Pacquiao made Margo fight at 150 and Cotto at 145…. Meanwhile Canelos been pegged as a LHW of fight night and he's NOT denying it because the scale told the story… He and his team say they want the best fighter on the planet, how bad do they want him?? This argument that Floyd's 2 fights in 17 years and one in the past 6 at 154 somehow force him there for life are nonsensical… His best weight is 147 and if he fights the remainder of his career there it's his choice… How many divisions does Canelo have titles in?? When has he EVER really given up size in the ring!? NEVER it's clear after Trout that he was HUGE taking on really small guys coming up.. He's not physically a normal 154 pounder and the word is out…Posted May 14, 2013 9:26 am
That was one long post, but ESB for some strange reason wouldnt let me do it one long one..Posted May 14, 2013 9:20 am
I for one, will not pay, or even watch, anymore floyd fights, as the result is pretty pre-determined… He is an amazing talent, but he is not good for boxing… He will be turning people away soon…if not already….Posted May 14, 2013 9:19 am
Can you imagine the uproar from the weird floyd fans, if pac made margarito come down to 147… who is smaller than canelo!!!Posted May 14, 2013 9:19 am
Canelo's only chance is at light middle, why on earth would anyone want to see this fight at welter… its a full gone conclusion.. this is worse than catchweight, where you sacrifice a few pounds, this is a whole division, for a guy who is already on the limit….Posted May 14, 2013 9:18 am
Canelo's only chance is at light middle, why on earth would anyone want to see this fight at welter… its a full gone conclusion.. this is worse than catchweight, where you sacrifice a few pounds, this is a whole division, for a guy who is already on the limit…. Can you imagine the uproar from the weird floyd fans, if pac made margarito come down to 147… who is smaller than canelo!!! I for one, will not pay, or even watch, anymore floyd fights, as the result is pretty pre-determined… He is an amazing talent, but he is not good for boxing… He will be turning people away soon…if not already…. Mayweather does not take high risk fights, he fights names, sure, but never prime names… im done watching him…Posted May 14, 2013 9:17 am
why i cant see my postsPosted May 14, 2013 9:13 am
160lb fight night weight limit will solve the whole thingPosted May 14, 2013 9:11 am
Steroid test to avoid Pacquiao, Your not a draw Margarito but Balidimor is,Now Canelo you must fight at 147 but I can out weigh Marquez by 15 pounds at fight night. I'll fight Shane if I can use Roids but you can not, not a sweat GBP will toss my positive test in the trashPosted May 14, 2013 9:09 am
The last i looked Floyd Mayweather is the superstar NOT Canelo, so Floyd don't need to be chasing anyone, all roads lead to Money…..he has nothing to prove, i bet a vast majority of the naysayers would do exactly the same if they were in the position that Mayweather is in, even if he did go to LT middle again and spank Canelo he would still come up short with alot of you.Posted May 14, 2013 8:56 am
Imagine if haye after he got the title at the haveyweight devision would have asked klitchko to challenge him in the cruiser weight because he is to big …hahahahPosted May 14, 2013 8:31 am
Lol when this latest news came out last night mayweather lawyer fans said mayweather didn't say that it was Canelo camp that are lying that mayweather said that but now since it is true that mayweather is asking his lawyer fans of his back him up right away and are up in arms against the fight to happen at the weight that both may and Canelo are champions …wow ..!!Posted May 14, 2013 8:28 am
pacquiao started at flyweight, you cant compare it too floyd. Pacman is one of a kind when it comes to weight divisionsPosted May 14, 2013 8:17 am
boxing barlow
When Floyd says he'll fight only at 147, my question is, why? Why not fight at light middle? Simple answer is he wants the advantage. Now the follow on question is, does he need that advantage? Now there's no doubt that Floyd is a truly great fighter but the sub plot to his career is has has always had things to his advantage and has never truly faced adversity, let alone a disadvantage. And at this stage of his career that's a shame. If he really wanted to make a statement he would agree to fight canelo at light middle. He would say he's a better fighter and he's gonna truly challenge himself by fighting canelo at his own weight class andis going to leave no excuse to who is the greatest. But Floyd won't, and if he fights at 147 and wins hell leave all his detractors shouting he only won because canelo was at such a disadvantage.Posted May 14, 2013 8:12 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Sil.. The only thing that leads to Floyd Mayweather is the trail of urine and chicken feathers that he leaves behind him every time he ducks back into the chicken coop whenever he catches scent of a legitimate threat on the prowl.Posted May 14, 2013 8:07 am
All roads lead to Mayweather….nuff said!Posted May 14, 2013 8:04 am
Damn right i'm on Floyds team! how many times has the "great" Pac Man dragged fighters into unnatural weight territory and been praised for it? Look at the weight increase that Canelo makes after the scales…..you telling me that's fair, or Floyd is a coward and tainted for not stepping up? Once again Floyd; let them come to you!Posted May 14, 2013 7:56 am
I'm having the same prob Gonzo. Very few of my posts got published this evening. I think it's an issue with the website.Posted May 14, 2013 7:47 am
"you want that fight Canelo come to us!" Oh? You're on Floyd's team, are you?Posted May 14, 2013 7:46 am
"Stop being a chickenshi#t LHW and challenge Ward who's only 8-10 pounds Bigger on Fight night." Hissymundo, you're such a cop-out artist. If you dip into chocolate ice cream you get chocolate ice cream. If Floyd dips into the jr. middleweight division he gets–he should get–a jr. middleweight. Not a welterweight. Canelo would be making a grave mistake to agree to fight at 147. And you know it.Posted May 14, 2013 7:38 am
Public Enemy
So lets get this straight Canelos Nut huggers thought it was just fine for Cotto to be starved down to 144lbs vs Paquiao but don't want Canelo to go to 147lbs to fight Mayweather? 7lbs below 154??? but it's ok for Canelo to come into his fights 19+lbs heavier then his opponents fight night????Posted May 14, 2013 7:16 am
Public Enemy
If Cinnamin Boy is afraid to fight Mayweather at 147lbs there's always Cotto at 154lbs who said he'd fight Canelo as long as there's Random Blood testing and weight gain limits… Canelo is screwed either way.. Either he fights Mayweather or he has a bunch of guys like Cotto, Quinlin, Lara, Rosado, who he has to fight to keep his belts…Posted May 14, 2013 7:14 am
MNboxingFAN – Sean
Canelo should just wait. Mayweather will be moving up eventually regardless. Why not wait until then. Make Floyd fight some more before getting another "May Day" with a huge Mexican star… because despite what everyone is saying there is no way Canelo would be fighting Floyd any other time than May.Posted May 14, 2013 7:11 am
As for the redundant Pac Man fans out there screaming at Floyd to man up and fight Canelo in his weight division: Floyd is a real 47 pounder that does'nt need to put himself at a serious disadvantage to prove ANYTHING, you want that fight Canelo come to us!Posted May 14, 2013 7:11 am
Welterweight is fair!!!!Posted May 14, 2013 7:01 am
Canelo at 147 like Dawson at 168, like Oscar at 147 against Pacman, won't be able to perform up to standards. Floyd and his team knows this all too well and it's jackpot if they can get Canelo in the ring at 147. Boxing is an ugly business in 2013Posted May 14, 2013 6:37 am
Of Course, Yes he is.Posted May 14, 2013 6:35 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
WTF? Why are some of my posts not going straight through even though they're as clean as a nun's bollocks?Posted May 14, 2013 5:54 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
You heard him.Posted May 14, 2013 5:28 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
What kind of cnut names the child Octavius Jomar Chatman? Seriously.Posted May 14, 2013 5:25 am
You show me a ped u can cycle in a week and have some veneer of good gains and you and I will make more money than mayweather!!!!! LOL!!!! I swear the brighter fraud nut garglers are not posting. They know its gonna be hard to make excuses for this duck.Posted May 14, 2013 4:34 am
We need an east article entitled "50cent was right, mayweathers a coward" to totally counter this utter garbage. Please east side stop playing host to articles writen by members of the fraud nut gargling horde. Don't deface east side with this crap. Even viveks aricle was terrible. Bu this article here really requires the "50 cent was right" rebuttal. The gargling horde can't mak enough excuses. Hey gargling horde!!!! Please tell me yout excuse as to why fraud fake retired when his division got red hot????Posted May 14, 2013 4:28 am
Exactly!!!! Pathetic!!!!! With a quak quak here anda quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak. Old mcmayweather was a duck. E….I……e…..I…….oPosted May 14, 2013 4:21 am
I smell fear ….bla bla bla …Canelo is not ready for me …bla bla bla …he is too big…bla bla bla …let him fight ward or ggg for me ….bla bla bla …(Canelo agrees to fight at 147)…bla bla bla … I want a weigh in to be at fight night …pathetic!!!!Posted May 14, 2013 4:18 am
BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)
These fraud nut garglers totally disregard that mayweather I A 154 CHAMP AND CANELO IS THE UNIFIED 154 POUND CHAMP. Fraud has not only fought at the weight but got decorated and strapped in it. Wtf is he doin with a championship belt at 154 if fraud "can't fight at 154″ apparently fraud was fine fighting at 154 and the garglers were fine calling him the best at 154 then canelo smashed on the scene like the beast he is and mayweather along with his gargling horde went into excuse overdrive so bad the hord could hardly keep up with the gargling because the excuse creating had become so deanding. PEEJ below excuses mayweather from EVERYONE. Pac, martinez and canelo. The only thing I didn't see any gargler make excuses for was the fraud fake retirement when his dicision got red hot. Hey peej. Pac did agree to the tests. Almost right up to the bout then ulitimately basically up to the bout. Then floyd said he wanted like 80% of the money because he had nothing but boxing to make money on nd pacs a politician so he has another way to make money. EVERYONE THOUGHT THIS WAS FLOYD EXPRESSING MORE FEAR OF PAC AND MORE FEAR OF A POTENTIAL LOSS. U obviously don't know what the hell your talkin bout peej. Plus u can't cycle ANYTHING in a week and havee any gains. Do u know anything about peds?Posted May 14, 2013 4:06 am
Adriana moron he doesn't want to fight someone who is 2 divisions heavier than him! Where were these dummies when P.Willie, Margarito, Cintron and Clottey stayed at 147lbs to bully the smaller guys. All those guys are even bigger than ODLH and Mosley who are still bigger than Floyd. If I were Floyd I would ask Martinez to come down to 154lbs. Don't let Oscar's hate for Floyd cloud your judgement. Mayweather claims he is the GOAT so he should have all the odds stacked against him. What he claims to be has nothing to do with this scenario, bunch of haters thinking with their hearts instead of their heads. Let Canelo fight Quillon that would be a fair fight right? This is beyond astonishing someone who weighs 146lbs then goes up to 151lbs must fight someone who starves himself to make 154lbs and re-hydrates to 172lbs. Guess what the bigger guy is the one who is calling out the smaller dude. Martinez called out Pacquaio and Mayweather and people called him a coward when Ward was just a weight class above him. This is the same scenario the bigger guy calling out a smaller guy and demanding he comes up in weight to suit the challenger. This is just plain retarded. GBP promotes Alvarez and Quillon why not challenge him for the 160lbs belt? If you want Floyd to come up then you can do the same Canelo. Logic just doesn't apply to some peoplePosted May 14, 2013 3:46 am
That isn´t your fight Mayweather, you know it…. you must fight for your reputation with Pacquiao, Bradley or JMMarquez….. if not, you will be forever an infamous…Posted May 14, 2013 3:26 am
Octavius– school me with what? With gossips??? Lol…
The delusional people keep saying Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs well Miguel is a true Welter he is a couple of pounds heavier than Floyd at best. Cotto accepted the Floyd fight in retaliation to Bobfather who offered him peanuts for a Pacquiao rerun. Miguel had to make all the concessions catchweight and purse split whilst he had a 154lbs belt, what was Pacquaio bringing to the table? Alvarez is 2 divisions heavier than Floyd, that's a fact. Canelo looks very dry everytime he steps in the ring coz he is starving himself to make 154lbs. Let Canelo fight Lara someone his size which is GGG or Martinez. Morons all of sudden have amnesia Canelo was supposed to fight Lara which was delayed and put in the back burner for a long time by GBP. Selective memory for the haters.Posted May 14, 2013 2:54 am
in a word- yesPosted May 14, 2013 2:39 am
Prof Konje
Without even to bother reading the article I'll say this. Floyd is too smart to even consider fighting a younger, stronger, 20-pound heavier man. Thst's just stupid to even consider it. It's being smart, not afraid.Posted May 14, 2013 2:36 am
I also think mayweather would win against Canelo at 154 too but what I can't stand is mayweathers bs as soon as he doubd that he could win against a live opponent ,I mean fight if just move on and don't start another paqiao episode on us !Posted May 14, 2013 2:24 am
Hecdog: I agree 100% with you !Posted May 14, 2013 2:19 am
Canelo Alvarez isn't going to jump at fighting Chicken Floyd at 147. How stupid to even have Floyd ask that of him. Canelo has plenty of other fights,. He's making plenty of money, and his popularity is growing, so money will not be the issue. Floyd ismaking excuses as he has always done. He did the same with Manny coming up with a million excuses. Look, if you're afraid to fight, don't ask Canelo to come down in weight so you can have the advantages as you always do. Go fight a bum like Devon Alexander. Floyd could probably beat Canelo, so the weight shouldn't be an issue at all. Canelo has a long way to go. Floyd stop with thee dumb demands, he's the champion at 154. You need to fight him at his weight, or simply move on.Posted May 14, 2013 2:15 am
Octavious- you are switching the story here ,its MAYWeather the one who is giving terms here by asking Canelo to drop down ,Canelo is not giving any term he is simply saying "you came and beat cotto at 154 now here I am a champion and if you think you can beat me let's fight"
Canelo cant make 147 pds, and this is why Mayweather is doing this. I would like to see this fight and Mayweather defend 154 pd title, but it wont happen. All of America and Mexico know Canelo is the real champ between these two – 22 yrs old 42-0 and still improving, Mayweather been around 16 years and has same number of fights because he spends more time finding guys too old, too small or like Marquez totally outsized. Look at Marquez now – he would walk thru floyd since his new stregth and conditioning coach has him fit and trim.
Dont get me wrong, Mayweather is a fantastic fighter, very tough, very talented, but I really think all people will remember 20 years from now is how he always got the big edge somehow for almost every fight. And it bothers me about him saying he is the best of all time , only undefeated champion and all that BS – there is only one undefeated retired fighter who is and always will be the greatest of all time and that is Rocky Marciano, who would fight anyone and had more courage than almost all men, and most importantly ( unlike Floyd ) was a Gentleman!Posted May 14, 2013 2:12 am
Octavious: no the argument is exactly if mayweather can beat Canelo at 154 because they are both champions at that weight !!!! If mayweather can't campaign at 154 then that's fine ,but you can't claim mayweather beats Canelo and everyone at 154 but refuse to fight them at 154,you can't have it both ways!!!Posted May 14, 2013 2:07 am
The Prince
Floyd is in the latter part of his thirites; Canelo is a young man entering his prime. Canelo can afford to drop down to 147, more so than Floyd going up to 154. If Canelo really wants it, then he needs to hit the gym and cut out second helpings.Posted May 14, 2013 2:07 am
Octavious- and how did Ortiz "earn" his spot more then Canelo or don't even get me started about paqiao ..Posted May 14, 2013 2:03 am
The Prince
So let me get this straight–Floyd haters are now whining, because Mayweather demands Canelo come down to this weight? What has Canelo done to dictate the terms of the fight? He's the one talking all kinds of mess about how he can beat Mayweather, no doubt Oscar feeling his young head with a bunch of nonsense, just like he did with Ortiz and we know how that turned out. I find it funny how people desperate to see Floyd lose, want him to enter fights where all the advantages are in the challengers favor. They don't want Floyd to have any terms for himself. Well, too bad. If you guys want Canelo and Floyd so badly, even thoug Canelo hasn't even earned such a fight, then you guys need to allow Floyd to have his terms. Rather you like him or not, Floyd is the one in the drivers seat, not Canelo.Posted May 14, 2013 2:02 am
Corectamundo.. Lets say Canelo takes the fight at 147 but still come at fight night 170+ pounds,you wouldn't have any problem with that right?
The Prince
They want Mayweather to fight Canelo, but don't want Canelo to move down to 147? Canelo is a young man entering his prime. He can afford to drop up and down in weight. Floyd is on the latter side of 30 and can't afford to keep moving up and dropping weight classes. Since Canelo has now become the great dragon slayer, his fans shouldn't complain about Floyd choosing the safest opinion for himself. People want Floyd to fight when the other guy gets all the advantages and none for Floyd himself. It's laughable. Canelo talked all that mess about Floyd, now he has a chance to do what it takes to make the fight happen.Posted May 14, 2013 1:58 am
The Prince
Look at the hypocrites. They want Mayweather to fight Canelo, but don't want him to move down to 147. Canelo is a young man entering his prime. He can afford to drop up and down in weight. Floyd is on the latter side of 30 and can't afford to keep moving up and dropping weight classes. Since Canelo has now become the great dragon slayer, his fans shouldn't complain about Floyd choosing the safest opinion for himself. People want Floyd to fight when the other guy gets all the advantages and none for Floyd himself. It's laughable. Canelo talked all that mess about Floyd, now he has a chance to do what it takes to make the fight happen. 343434Posted May 14, 2013 1:57 am
Ray Ray
No1 complained when Manny made De la Hoya or Cotto drop weight? Fact is the top dog gets 2 name his price and terms. Mayweather doesn't need Alvarez he could have Mattysse, Peterson or Garcia and still make bank. Alvarez needs Floyd or 2 step up and get schooled by Martinez or GGG….ur choice AlvarezPosted May 14, 2013 1:56 am
The Prince
twfwfwfwfqwfwPosted May 14, 2013 1:56 am
I meant Canelo can't * go down to 147 …typo sorryPosted May 14, 2013 1:55 am
Ray Ray
Floyd is top dog, if Alvarez wants this fight he will meet Mayweathers demands….I didn't hear any Pacqiou fans crying about manny fighting guys like Cotto or dely Hoya a weight or 2 below what they'd fought at 4 a few yrs….or the other way rnd, getting Marquez 2 step up In weight classes. Fact is top dogs call the shots, Floyd doesn't need Alvarez he could take and make just as much cash vs Matthysse, Peterson or Garcia…. Alvarez however needs Mayweather or he'l have 2 step up and get whopped by Martinez or GGG, ur choice Saul..Posted May 14, 2013 1:52 am
So in another words mayweather thinks he can't beat Canelo at 154 ?or he really is avoiding fighting Canelo by asking him to come down at 147 because mayweather knows Canelo can ever make 147 weight unless like largo says "chop a limb " or somethingPosted May 14, 2013 1:51 am
The Prince
Look at the hypocrites. They want Mayweather to fight Canelo, but don't want him to move down to 147. Canelo is a young man entering his prime. He can afford to drop up and down in weight. Floyd is on the latter side of 30 and can't afford to keep moving up and dropping weight classes. Since Canale has now become the great dragon slayer, his fans shouldn't complain about Floyd choosing the safest opinion for him.Posted May 14, 2013 1:49 am
OK. SO move on to Ward or GGG. They will take the Fight in a HEARTBEAT. When one Fight can't be made you move on to the next BEST opponent available. Ward is #2 P4P and looking for an opponent. MAN UP and call out WardPosted May 14, 2013 1:18 am
Martinez was too big so stop saying Martinez. And the Pac fight could of happened if he agreed to the test. Funny how that was always the problem. All he had to do was agree and then he would of had Floyd cornered but he was the one making excuses. I will say though that I am glad that they have had some great fights in that outdoor stadium Arum was talking about making for the Floyd vs Pac fightPosted May 14, 2013 1:16 am
garbagePosted May 14, 2013 1:07 am
Canelo is really too borderline for Floyd to take the unnecessary risk. He could easily come in more than 20 lbs heavier than Floyd and that tilts the scales in SIZE being more important than SKILLS favor….Floyd's no dummy. Take that sucker down 7 more pounds. He'll give you a 15-19 pound advantage but he's not goingto be a DUMMY and give you a 20 lbs+ advantage. GOOD try though. Stop being a chickenshi#t LHW and challenge Ward who's only 8-10 pounds Bigger on Fight night.Posted May 14, 2013 1:02 am
yeah, Canelo can make 147…chopping a limb..or two, LOL.Posted May 14, 2013 12:59 am
Ward comes in on Fight night between 175 and 180. Canelo comes in at 172. Only 8 pounds Difference. SO its hypocritical to expect Floyd to face someone coming in 22 pounds but not expect that same person to Fight someone only 8 pounds Bigger…..Canelo vs. Ward lets SEE it. There'a no excuse. He can make 168. Just rehydrate one day earlier than usual.Posted May 14, 2013 12:50 am
"Ward will destroy Alvarez. " Alvarez does not fight as a super middleweight. Ward does not fight as a jr. middleweight. They are separated by two weight divisions.Posted May 14, 2013 12:41 am
Yes canelos size does make a difference in the fight but that's not the only thing about him that would give Floyd problemsPosted May 14, 2013 12:39 am
"Lol @ measly 20lbs. Lets just get rid of weight divisions in all since 20lbs is not a lot of weight to give up."
Done Deal, what is the weight limit for the heavyweight division? What? I can't hear you. Here, let me elucidate: UNLIMITED!
Don't even give me that BS about the 20lb weight difference. Not when it comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr. Floyd claims he's the GOAT. Canelo should be no problem for him at 170 lbs. Right?
Floyd wants Canelo to come down to 147 to weaken him, to make him easier to beat, and to protect his pretty face. That's it.Posted May 14, 2013 12:30 am
Of course he is… what else is new. He ducked pretty much anyone that poses a threat to his record.Posted May 14, 2013 12:30 am
stupid loser
Ward will destroy Alvarez. Mayweather will only make Alvarez look like a fool. The weight is all head games and hype to stir up controversy.
Gonzo of Nazareth
How odd. Censorship gone mad. Fascisto email@example.com May 14, 2013 12:21 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Or prepubescentPosted May 14, 2013 12:18 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Unless Ginger is an offensive word these days?Posted May 14, 2013 12:18 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Where's my reply to Tomato Can's comment? There were no blue or saucy words in it.Posted May 14, 2013 12:17 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Tomato Can.. Yes, Floyd getting chased round the ring in mortal fear of getting clipped by the wind of a punch by a prepubescent Ginger would look kinda comical. It would be like Baldomir x 100. lolPosted May 14, 2013 12:16 am
WTF is that Adrian person talking about? You should sue whatever school system you graduated from…Posted May 14, 2013 12:11 am
hope canelo stays at his weight.Posted May 14, 2013 12:07 am
IF Canelo doesn't come down he doesn't want the Fight. IF he can't make 147 is the Excuse well he can make 168 because he comes IN at 172 on Fight night SO move ON to the next BEST Fighter within your weight range which is Ward.. IF he can't get Floyd call out Ward. That will show that you want to face the BEST. Not just looking for a PAYDAY.Posted May 14, 2013 12:06 am
Wow!!!suprise suprise ….here we go now the writer and a "no matter what " mayweather fans Were saying until last and they still are how Canelo is so big that he bearly makes 154 and comes 20 p havier at fight night but they have no problem for Canelo to comedown 7 p lighter then 154 who they said he bearly makes 154 weight ??????
Gonzo of Nazareth
Sucking Floyd? Was that a Floydian slip? lololPosted May 13, 2013 11:33 pm
I don't understand why this is even a discussion! How is this a big fight? Because the media has hyped it up as a big fight! Who has Canelo fought to say that he'd be a perfect opponent for Floyd? It'll be a case of Canelo being outboxed, people saying he was too young and inexperienced and Mayweather should have won the fight. Then as Mayweather said, "they'll just come up with another opponent." Canelo is the one calling for a fight with Mayweather, he should accept the terms if he wants the fight that bad. Personally, I see no reason for this fight as Canelo hasn't really defeated anyone that would even garner such a fight. He beat an old Mosley, Cintron and Trout. Wow, that's a resume for ya. Oh and let's not forget Josesito Lopez, that elite junior welterweight. Ha! In three to four years, Canelo will be the cream of the crop, but since the media mentioned him as an opponent for Floyd, combined with him calling out Floyd, everyone seems to think that this would be the defining moment of his career. Funny how most boxing experts are clearly stating that this would be a disaster for Canelo. And Canelo is no position to make any demands as he's never headlined a PPV fight, he hasn't defeated anyone of notary beyond the three individuals I named earlier and you can make an argument that if the Trout fight had not been fought in Texas that Trout would have received the decision. Hell, if the WBC didn't have anything to do with it, that fight might have gone to Trout. I don't see the purpose of this fight, if it is made, Floyd will win and people will find an excuse for Canelo's loss and find another opponent that Mayweather is "supposedly" ducking. It's all comedy!!!Posted May 13, 2013 11:32 pm
also why the big deal about weight, the real issue for Floyd i believe is the height and reach advantage, because he clearly has the skill advantage. Even though he won, if fight against Delahoya proved anything its that his skill will only compensate for so much, and weight is not the factor. Haye and Wlad are fairly equal in speed and skill even though Wlad outweighs Haye by atleast 25 pounds but Haye cant get past the height advantage….Posted May 13, 2013 11:28 pm
Tomato Can
Gonzo, exactly… Canelo/Mayweather at 154 has back peddling with occasional pot shots written all over it.Posted May 13, 2013 11:20 pm
Tomato Can
Yup Duran was a much bigger name than Barkley. A much better fighter too. Kind of like when he fought Davey Moore, too. Duran was hands of stone. Mayweather is hands of china. But by the time Duran faced Barkley he was on the down side of his career, and Barkley had a title that Duran really wanted.Posted May 13, 2013 11:18 pm
largo – probably would have Beaten Manny too at Floyds ideal weight no one should be surprisedPosted May 13, 2013 11:16 pm
If Canelo doesn't come to 147 then he is sucking Floyd. He made 150 a few fights ago so 147 should be no problem.Posted May 13, 2013 11:10 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Perhaps Tomato Can.. But I'd prefer it if the Ginger Mexican had a good 20lbs on Floyd just so I can see if Floyd can break the world running backwards record. lolPosted May 13, 2013 11:09 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Nah, Duran had a p[air of bollocks on him the size of which Floyd couldn't even fantasize about. Duran might have ballooned up in between fights but Barkey was quite clearly by far the bigger man on fight night, which Duran knew in advance he would be but it didn't phase him one bit. And Duran was a much bigger name than Barkley too.Posted May 13, 2013 11:06 pm
Oscar and Mosely fought Vargas and others who came in on the night of the fight at 170+lbs and they beat them. Cotto would have fought Canelo at 154lbs if he hadn't lost to Trout. If Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs, why can't he fight Canelo there? Floyd knows Canelo can't make 147lbs, so either Canelo has the choice to be foolish or the fight won't happen. Canelo isn't asking Floyd to come up in weight, because Floyd is the current Super WW Diamond Champ!Posted May 13, 2013 11:05 pm
Oscar and Mosely fought Vargas and others who came in on the night of the fight at 170+lbs and they beat them. Cotto would have fought Canelo at 154lbs if he hadn't lost to Trout. If Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs, why can't he fight Canelo there? Floyd knows Canelo can't make 147lbs, so either Canelo has the choice to be foolish or the fight won't happen. Canelo isn't asking Floyd to come up in weight, because Floyd is the current Super WW Diamond Champ! Why won't he defend the title?Posted May 13, 2013 11:00 pm
Canelo would be easier than Sergio because the stamina lacking Canelo would be a sitting duck for Floyd in the second half of the fight…Floyd stops Canelo with body shots.Posted May 13, 2013 10:58 pm
Tomato Can
The only problem with using Duran as an example is, he ballooned up to 190-200 between fights later in his career. So, it was actually a blessing for him to fight at 160. Even though he was out gunned at 160, his top notch boxing ability kept him in fights. The Duran/Barkley fight was a lot of fun to watch. But realistically, there was a huge difference. Duran wasn't the cash cow, he had to go out and earn it, the hard way. This is common with all fighters at some point, unless they retire while their on top that is. How often does that happen?Posted May 13, 2013 10:57 pm
Oscar and Mosely fought Vargas and others who came in on the night of the fight at 170+lbs and they beat them. Cotto would have fought Canelo at 154lbs if he hadn't lost to Trout. If Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs, why can't he fight Canelo there? Floyd knows Canelo can't make 147lbs, so either Canelo has the choice to be foolish or the fight won't happen. Floyd is the current WBC Diamond Champ, why won't he defend the title he's holding?Posted May 13, 2013 10:56 pm
If Floyd don't fight Canelo at 154, then, that together with not fighting Sergio M.(also at 154) , would be the two biggest blunders & worst lost opportunities of his boxing career because he'd win them both…Posted May 13, 2013 10:52 pm
Tomato Can
lol, well perhaps Canelo should agree to the terms then come in a couple of pounds heavy (149-150) like Mayweather did to Marquez.Posted May 13, 2013 10:51 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
"Hey Iran!.. Roberto here. How's about you drain that big ol' cruiserweight frame of yours down to bantamweight for our fight?"Posted May 13, 2013 10:51 pm
Done Deal
Floyd fights no name fighters huh? The ghost was just he Welter weight champion oh and a 6 time world champ in 5 different weight classes. Yeah pretty no name huh?Posted May 13, 2013 10:50 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
The Ginger Mexican should agree to Floyd's demands and then not even try to get down to the stipulated weight and step on the scale at 154lbs instead.Posted May 13, 2013 10:48 pm
How will there be no named fighters to fight? Garcia is gonna move up soon, Peterson will move up, Matyssa will move up. There are a few 140 fighters that are good that will be moving up. And all will want some of Floyd. There is Bradley if he ever gets away from Top Rank. That would be a significant fight since he beat Pac. There are plenty of fights that will be at 147 and then his last fight he can move to 153 and challenge CaneloPosted May 13, 2013 10:47 pm
Even if ODL and Cotto didn't come in on fight night at 170+lbs, they fought the guys at 154lbs that did to get their titles. Oscar even went as far as to fight Hopkins! Floyd brags of winning the 154lb title twice, but picks and chooses who he will fight at that weight. Cotto would have fought Canelo at 154lbs if he hadn't lost to Trout. Since Floyd fought Cotto at 154lbs, why can't he fight Canelo at 154lbs. Oscar and Mosely fought Vargas at 154lbs, and Vargas regularly came in above 170 on fight night. Floyd is either setting Canelo up to make a dumb decision or he's negotiating his way out of the fight.Posted May 13, 2013 10:47 pm
Tomato Can
This is why little fighters shouldn't go get titles at higher divisions just cause the can. They do that then everyone wants them to keep doing it, in hopes of seening the naturally bigger fighter smack them down. The problem is, the fans will say He fought in the Diveion before, he should fight there against so and so (knowning full well, the little guy doesn't belong in that division).Posted May 13, 2013 10:45 pm
Mma fighter
I agree stay at 147 and fight no named people and get his49# with easy fightsPosted May 13, 2013 10:45 pm
Done Deal
Lol @ measly 20lbs. Lets just get rid of weight divisions in all since 20lbs is not a lot of weight to give up. Welter weights should fight super middle. Jr Middle should fight light heavy's. Lets make it happen. None sense. Oh! and Canelo and the media called out Floyd. Not the other way around. Oscar said verbatim that Canelo was not ready for Floyd.Posted May 13, 2013 10:44 pm
Mma fighter
That's fine don't call out somebody out of your weight classPosted May 13, 2013 10:42 pm
@Mama when he fought cotto cotto came in about 160 not 172 like Canelo would. He can beat Canelo at any weight but what's the point. People will say Canelo was to young for being on the big stage. No matter who Floyd beat your say some was wrong. First he said he was not gonna fight the Ghost then people said he was afraid since the ghost is a south paw. He whoop that ass now your saying the ghost is bumPosted May 13, 2013 10:42 pm
Mma fighter
And floyd said he wanted to fight him and know he says at 147 when know he is at 154helloPosted May 13, 2013 10:40 pm
Done Deal
Mma Fighter I do agree that he should not be able to keep a belt in a weight class he is not willing to fight in any longer. I think Floyd has come to terms that 2 of the 5 tough fights he has had in his career were at 154, so he wants to stay were he is comfortable.Posted May 13, 2013 10:40 pm
Sneak, Floyd wants to fight Canelo as much as Canelo wants to fight him. If he didn't he wouldn't even be asking Canelo to come down to 147. So Canelo outweighs him by 20 lbs on fight night. That extra weight won't increase Canelo's skills. Floyd is just looking for the easiest way to win that he can find. Floyd is the one who claims he's the GOAT. Well then, he shouldn't have any problem beating a guy who outweighs him by a measley 20 lbs.Posted May 13, 2013 10:38 pm
Mma fighter PBF weigh 146 on the scales and was at 150 fight night. Canelo comes to fight night weighing 172 which is pathetic. Again Canelo just wants to have a huge weight advantage. PBF calls the shots Canelo drop to 147 or stay home. As big as he is should be fighting Hopkins, Froch, Bute, or AA. Canelo lost to trout luck judges stole it for him.Posted May 13, 2013 10:38 pm
Mma fighter
He still makes weightPosted May 13, 2013 10:37 pm
Done Deal
Cotto and ODH were not 170+ on fight night. Stop comparing them to Canelo. Canelo was physically much bigger than Shane is who bigger than Mayweather.Posted May 13, 2013 10:35 pm
Mma fighter
Largo the issue is he won't fight him at 154 he might beat him he might not why does he have a belt in a weight class that he won't fight in .Posted May 13, 2013 10:35 pm
Fighting Words
Didn't Mayweather pay a fine for coming in over weight when he fought JMM. Canelo should pull one of Mayweather tricks sign the contract and pay the fine for coming in overweightPosted May 13, 2013 10:34 pm
Done Deal
Floyd is the king. He dictates the fight terms not Canelo. Floyd is just being smart. Just like Pac was for asking Oscar to drain to 147 and Cotto to 144, but none of the fans complained about that did they?????? 20-25 pound rehydration is unacceptable to me, but Canelo is not nearly one of the only fighters to do it. Floyd has never been 154, not even on fight night when he fought at Jr. Middle.Posted May 13, 2013 10:34 pm
@Hedalgo Canelo is who fights undersized guys. Dudes weight a buck seventy want to fight Floyd who walks around at a buckfityPosted May 13, 2013 10:33 pm
Fighting Words
Oh how soon we forget. Didn't Mayweather come in 3lb over weight when he fought Marquez. The weight was contracted at 144 lb in which Mayweather could have made easily, but he camein at 147 lb, paid the fine and rehydrated to around 160 lb but he never revealed his weight the day of the fight. Marquez came up from 135 lb to fight Mayweather, now Mayweather is talking about Canelo should be coming down to 147 lb to fight him. Canelo should pull one of Mwyweather tricks, come in a lowest he can get to 147 lb and just pay the fine and then kick Mayweather butt.Posted May 13, 2013 10:32 pm
Mma fighter
Where is the problem he fights Miguel at 154 no one said a thing now ever one saying Saul is to big what the f……………..Posted May 13, 2013 10:31 pm
I repeat, Floyd stop'im at 154…Posted May 13, 2013 10:29 pm
big mike
Canelo could fight Golovkin, great fight, puts him in elite status. Why not?Posted May 13, 2013 10:28 pm
If you don't see that Floyd would beat this guy at 154, well, i can't help you there…Posted May 13, 2013 10:28 pm
Mma fighter
He fought Miguel at 154Posted May 13, 2013 10:27 pm
Question is is conelo ducking GGG. Why don't he fight somebody his own size. A fight with Canelo and Andre Ward would be nice to.Posted May 13, 2013 10:27 pm
Mma fighter
He fought cotto at154 what's the f……Posted May 13, 2013 10:26 pm
Ghetto Thug
All right haters and pactards, three, two, one, go…..Posted May 13, 2013 10:25 pm
Mma fighter
He fought cotto at 154 what are crying about or making a excusesPosted May 13, 2013 10:24 pm
Mma fighter
He fought cotto at 154 are u guys foolsPosted May 13, 2013 10:20 pm
Mma fighter
Fight nights Floyd's weight at least 157 to 160s most fighters put on a least 10 to 15Posted May 13, 2013 10:19 pm
big mike
If he can't make 147 he's got no business fighting Mayweather. Fight Ward or Froch or somebody his own size.
LOL why should Mayweather do what Canelo wants.Posted May 13, 2013 10:17 pm
Who in there right mind wants to fight a guy who blows up from 154 to 172 on fight night. Mayweather is the king Canelo wants a piece of the rock you come down to his court. Canelo should be fighting at light heavy weight. Canelo is playing the ODH game trying to feast on smaller guys by have a 30 pound weight advantage Canelo is a Disgrace to the sport of boxing.Posted May 13, 2013 10:16 pm
Canelo can't make 147 & he shouldn't try.Posted May 13, 2013 10:15 pm
"When it gets down to it, Canelo's only chance of beating Mayweather is to use his light heavyweight-sized weight to crush him. " Tough piss. Then don't fight Canelo.Posted May 13, 2013 10:14 pm
Mma fighter
Thank youPosted May 13, 2013 10:13 pm
Mayweather is looking for the easiest six fights he can find. He's badly hoping Canelo will be #2. An undersized, weak, dehydrated Canelo. You know–Floyd's speciality–undersized opponents.Posted May 13, 2013 10:06 pm
Stupid is what stupid does!Posted May 13, 2013 10:05 pm
Mma fighter
This is your p4pPosted May 13, 2013 9:51 pm