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The elo rating system is an extremely accurate method of determining not only your strength, but the likelihood of chances of winning when you go against another player.
higher ranked players arent necessarily any better they just make fewer mistakes
Well that's an oxymoron. Chess is a game of eliminating errors.
Everyone knows a higher rating makes you a better person, increases your wealth, makes people nod in agreement when you speak, and whitens your teeth.
The hideous secret is that there IS NO RATING SYSTEM. They use a super-secret method to hand out ratings based on baseball statistics and tax forms.
In computing technology we just call it a random number generator.
Seriously, The rating is mainly useful for assessing your personal growth by just comparing it to your previous rating of a few months ago. Comparing ratings is like measuring your weight. It is a number that will change based on different variables. You weigh more after eating than before and you play better if you are rested than if you are fatigued.
It is best to just use your rating a few time a year. Most of use will have those 100 point drops and 100 point gains. so really your rating is just an estimate of the median of the range of your rating in chess.
LMAAOO love the sarcasm pawnshover
Let's go back to the original question. You were given an approximate rating os 1200 as a benchmark. Everyone has to start somewhere. What you do with that beginning is your business.
Ratings are like badges and certificates, they dont mean anything, what matters is what you do and produce. If you want a true rating then play for real in tournaments and play against "rated" players, for me the online chess ratings have no meaning, using the explore features and anlysis features is not something you can do across a real board, you need to do it in your head, I am not good enough to know if im playing someone who is using Fritz or Rybka or whatever, so i dont bother worrying about, I play, i either win or lose, if im 270 or 2700 it means nothing in the end, it is only each game you play that matters at all, and in the real end we all end up in the same box (in chess and life).
I play Chess because i can and i enjoy it, the end.
How do you calculate your score when you're playing in person? Say I go to my local chess club and sign up to play a rated game, since I've never been there do I start at 1200 like here online?
How do you know how many points to add or subtract after your win/loss?
...go with the flow....
For USCF games, you can use this to estimate your ratings change. (The actual formula they use is too complicated to be able to get the EXACT amount your rating will change.)
You don't start at 1200 or any particular spot - they look at your first few games and see how you did. If you get 2 wins and 3 losses against people with ratings around 1800, then you'll start out with a rating around 1720, for example.
Can chess.com relate their rating to an individual abstract I.Q. Somehow I believe that skilled player must have high abstract reasoning. Every puzzle require intelligence in solving. Every game I believe need abstract intelligence. I hope a study will be done with regard to this subject for all people to know. With it, chess has it's valid purpose in the world and eventually be alive and kicking again.
Can chess.com relate their rating to an individual abstract I.Q.
Not with any degree of accuracy. The "problem" here is that people get better with practice. If you play 500 games of chess, memorize some openings and endgames, use the Tactics Trainer, etc., you will not be inherently more intelligent, but you will probably get better at chess and your rating will go up.
But there are some people who beginners in chess played better than season ones. Though they take more time making a move, yet they are good. Could there be some relationship between high abstract I.Q. people to better beginner player in chess? I think so. Because even if you practice often, during the middle and end game, moves can differ. It requires a little critical thinking to enable to win.
If you are good at Chess then you are good at Chess thats it.
Chess IQ and generic IQ are different things, even generic IQ has a multitude of different tests all of which differ.
IQ is about as realistically measurable as Ron Jeremys sex life.
I am refering to abstract I.Q. specifically. Somehow a person who has a higher abstract reasoning has a better chance of being a good chess player. Though I agree with you we have different intelligence, abstract is an ability to look at things and easily knows what the pattern of it.
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Thomas Gray, "Ode on the Spring"
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That surge of optimism? Merely the serotonergic response to increased daylight. The distraction and dreaminess? The neurotransmitter dopamine is responding to light and warmth. And what about the "gathered fragrance" of romance in the air? Hardly poetic, since the sensitivity of the olfactory system has been proven to directly relate to pheromones, the essential chemical ingredient of sexual attraction.
And here the poets thought the "untaught harmony of spring" was inexplicable.
While a formal scientific study of the delightful disorder known as spring fever is yet to be undertaken, the serious work of scientists looking at other maladies and other biological phenomena goes a long way in explaining why this particular season makes us feel the way we do.
For example, the study of seasonal affective disorder, or SAD, whose sufferers are morbidly depressed during the winter months and less so during the spring and summer, has shown how responsive our mood-defining neurotransmitters are to light. The intricacies of olfaction are intimately tied to human social, sexual and emotional responses. And the various chemicals involved in coupling, or what biologists call pair bonding — in the aching world of singles ads, the grimly unromantic "committed relationship" — seem to have special intensity in the spring.
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Although the precise causes of SAD are unclear, scientists have found that one explanation for the blank depression that afflicts those with the disorder is that these brain chemicals get out of balance in the winter months. Those with SAD often crave carbohydrates, which create a temporary but not very therapeutic surge of serotonin. At the same time, the brain's basic biological clock is governed by circadian rhythms, and when there is insufficient light, too much melatonin is released, also causing depression.
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CORPUS CHRISTI - LAWTON, Okla. — Texas A&M-Kingsville and Cameron University played a hot-and-cold women's basketball game on Thursday night, with the Javelinas earning an 84-78 overtime win in Lone Star Conference crossover action.
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The Javelinas (11-3) jumped on the Aggies (4-9) in the first half behind the hot shooting of senior guard Felicia Soza, who knocked down her first seven shots en route to 16 first-half points. The game appeared to be well in hand after a Kayla Naylor gave A&M-Kingsville a 24-point lead with 1:48 left in the first half.
But somebody forgot to tell the Aggies that the game was over, and they battled back. The Javelinas went cold in the second half, making just 33 percent of their shots, including a 2-for-9 performance from 3-point range. Cameron, meanwhile, caught fire from the field, hitting on 53.8 percent of their shots in the half. Luv Rattler and Josie Stewart led the comeback, combining for 34 second-half points.
The Aggies took their first lead of the game on a jumper by Stewart with 31 seconds left in regulation. The Javelinas reclaimed the lead, 66-64, on a 3-pointer by Dyana Bullinger with 13 seconds left, but Cameron sent the game to overtime when Stewart was fouled with three seconds left and made both free throws.
The Javelinas never trailed in overtime, going 9-for-13 from the foul line and making all three of their 3-point attempts.
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LAWTON, OKLAHOMA - For the first time this year the Texas A&M-Kingsville men's basketball team lost when they allowed fewer than 70 points in a game as they fell to Cameron University, 59-48 on the road on Thursday night.
The Javelinas (10-4) entered the game with a perfect 9-0 mark on the season when holding their opponent to under 70 points, but the Aggie (10-4) defense proved to be a tough riddle to crack. The Javs never led in the game as they struggled to shoot from the field and the Aggies had the answers as they made 9-of-19 three-pointers.
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/> •Texas: Florida Atlantic (8-5), at UTEP (4-8), Arkansas (8-5), Rice (3-9) Renewed Hogs rivalry solid, but the rest is a mess. •Texas A&M: Arkansas State (5-7), at New Mexico (9-4), Miami (5-7), Army (3-9) Canes offer only point of interest, unless cadets draw their swords when Army arrives.
The Ugly•Iowa State: *South Dakota State (7-4), Kent State (3-9), at Iowa (6-6), at UNLV (2-10) Rivalry game with Hawkeyes can't save this sked. •Kansas State: North Texas (2-10), *Montana State (6-5), at Louisville (6-6), Louisiana-Lafayette (3-9) 'Cats fled from home game with Fresno State •Missouri: #Illinois (9-4), *Southeast Missouri State (3-8), Nevada (6-7), Buffalo (5-7) Good opener, then name-the-mascot stretch. •Texas Tech: *Eastern Washington (9-4), at Nevada (6-7), SMU (1-11), *Massachusetts (10-3) Not one, but two I-AA foes. Shame, shame. * Division I-AA opponent # Neutral site Last year's record in parenthesis By John Helsley


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The Los Angeles Lakers have assigned rookie center Robert Sacre to the D-League's Los Angeles D-Fenders. The Lakers made the move Wednesday, shortly before the D-Fenders' season opener. Sacre appeared in eight games for the Lakers, recording two points and two rebounds in 19 minutes of play. He also has gained popularity among Lakers fans for his vociferous cheerleading on the Lakers' bench. Sacre was the 60th and final pick in the NBA draft last June. The Canadian 7-footer was a collegiate standout at Gonzaga, averaging 11.6 points, 6.3 rebounds and 1.4 blocks as a senior. Darius Johnson-Odom, the Lakers' other second-round draft pick last summer, already is on the D-Fenders.
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Cara apartment is located just ten minutes walk from the traditional Pissouri village and five minutes drive away from the 'blue flag' awarded Pissouri beach with many watersports including, scuba diving, windsurfing and jet skis.
Pissouri is quiet and relaxing during the day and boasts a fabulous atmosphere at night in the many tavernas and bars located in the village square and Pissouri beach area. Pissouri village square is especailly vibrant on wednesday evenings during the summer months when 'Cyprus' nights are held where you can enjoy traditional Cypriot music and dancing.
The renowned golf courses at Aphrodite Hills and Secret Valley are fifteen minutes drive away
Pissouri is the perfect location for both families and sports lovers alike
|Sleeps up to 4, 2 bedrooms
|Nearest beach
|Pissouri 5 km
|Car advised
|Nearest travel links
|Nearest airport: Paphos 20 km
|Family friendly
|Great for children of all ages
|No pets allowed, No smoking at this property
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|DVD player
|Shared outdoor pool (unheated)
|Central heating, Air conditioning, TV
|Kettle, Toaster, Iron, Hair dryer
|Clothes dryer, Cooker, Microwave, Fridge, Freezer, Washing machine
|2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms of which 1 Family bathrooms
|Double beds (1), Single beds (2), Dining seats for 6, Lounge seats for 5
|Linen provided, Towels provided
|Shared outdoor pool (unheated), Balcony or terrace, Private garden
|Parking, Suitable for people with restricted mobility, Wheelchair users
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Cara apartment is located on the edge of the popular coastal village of Pissouri. Situated on the ground floor, It is luxuriously equipped with quality modern furniture throughout. It has a walk-in kitchen with fridge freezer, washing machine and oven. A breakfast bar is linked to the open plan lounge culminating in full size patio windows. Facilities include satellite TV, air conditioning, ceiling fans, wall heaters, iron and board and a hair dryer . Quality bed linen and bath towels are provided. The master bedroom has double size bed very tastefully dressed. The second bedroom has 2 single beds and both rooms contain fully fitted wardrobes and matching furniture. Everything to make sure your stay is really comfortable whatever the time of year!
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Step out to a sun terrrace with patio table, umbrella and 4 chairs and a garden bordered with an extravaganza of strikingly coloured flowering.area . A marble table and four chairs is situated in the rear garden so you can enjoy a drink as the sun goes down! The communal pool/shower/toilet and changing facilities are a minutes walk away. A private parking space is allocated.
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A welcome pack will be provided.
The Limassol District
The countryside around Pissouri ranges from majestic cliffs overlooking the mediterranean to the beautiful slopes of the troodos mountains. To the west is the much loved port of Paphos.The harbour area is to be improved to a world class standard and plans are afoot to upgrade and extend the airport to embrace a lot more flights and competition thereon. The " Mosaics " of Paphos are famous and depict scenes from greek mythology. In the adjacent area is " The Tombs Of The Kings " , these tombs date back to 4th century bc and are of great interest. " Petra Tou Romious" is the birthplace of Aphrodite the legend of whom is that she being the goddess of love and beauty rose from the waves in these baths.Further to the west is the stunning Akamas Nature Reserve which is just beyond the fishing villages and holiday beaches of Latsi and Polis. This area also appeals to hikers( organised walks ), cyclists( mountain bike tracks ) , and scuba divers encounter perfect water conditions so all standards of divers can participate.There are many vineyards to visit but a car is necessary or perhaps take in an all day coaching trip. The region is also popular for water sports such as kite surfing and jet skiing.
Eating out:
Eating out in Cyprus is very easy, very enjoyable and relatively cheap compared with the UK. Almost all Greek Cypriots speak English and so ordering food and drink is no problem. Pissouri Village Square, which is only 10 minutes walk from the apartment, is a great place to eat, with many tavernas serving a good range of meals. Every Wednesday night in the summer the square has a Greek evening with dancing etc – you should book a table with one of the tavernas if you want to be there for what is a very typical Greek Cypriot experience. If you do not feel like going down to the Square, the Olympus Palace and Hillview restaurants are a few minutes walk away.
Local beaches:
Pissouri Beach is about 6 minutes drive from the villa, about a half hour walk there and ¾ hour back (up the hill). Around the beach area there are many tavernas and shops. On the beach there is a lifeguard station and you can hire beach equipment, sailing dinghies, surfboards, jet skis etc for very reasonable rates. Scuba diving is available locally.
Along the coast to the west of Pissouri there is the famous Aphrodite Rock, the birthplace of Aphrodite, where you can also have an excellent meal at the restaurant overlooking the rock. To the east of Pissouri is Avdimou beach where there are also good tavernas.
Some places of interest:
Olive oil museum at Anogyra; Wild Valley Ostrich Farm, north of Pissouri; Donkey Sanctuary at Vouni; Greek/Roman sites around Pafos and Lemesos; the Troodos mountain range and of course the numerous monasteries, the largest and most splendid of which is Kykkos in the Troodos mountain range. There are many leaflets and booklets in the third drawer of the kitchen cupboards.
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16 Sep 2013
"Fabulous - exactly as described"
I have written a huge review and it has been lost into the ether so I'll cut to the chase! Lorna couldn't have been more helpful, her photos don't do the place justice, it's clean and has everything you need to enjoy a relaxing holiday in a quiet place really well located for exploring the west coast.
The square is worth a visit in the evenings for the buzz and the restaurant on the corner is fantastic, eat the Cypriot food, you won't be disappointed.
Big supermarket 5mins drive away at bottom of hill, Papaantoniou, everything you need, fresh fresh fresh food, beautiful feta, squid, and the best birthday cake ever ;-)
After the children were in bed we sat out the front and star gazed every evening, happy as sandboys. Great flat, reasonably priced, well equipped and if we ever returned to that part of the world we would look this place up again.
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6 Mar 2013
"a lovely holiday in a very comfortable apartment"
We needed a holiday with no inconvenience or hassle and we got that here. Nice restaurants within walking distance and easy to get groceries too.
Too cold for swimming in Feb, but can use the Intercontinental a few miles away on a day pass.
WiFi is available, just 10 euros for a week through a local company.
30 Aug 2011
"Great location, well equipped, friendly host, will book again."
Set within walking distance of town and bars. This well equipped apartment is ideally situated. The apartment is within a small development and only once did we see other people at the shared pool ( which we used at least once a day). Would recommend a car to get about the Island to make the most of your stay. The air conditioning was great and only needed to put on before bed to cool the rooms. The children enjoyed the good assortment of DVD's when it was too hot to go out (lunchtimes). Barbecue was great and we enjoyed some great evenings sat out on the terrace. Great holiday and would thoroughly recommend. See you next year.
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Everybody will have special memories of 2013. For the Old Rocker, it is the year that many of the most successful music stars died.
Here is a list in alphabetical of the major stars who left us in 2013 and their accomplishments.
Patty Andrews, the last survivor of the singing Andrews Sisters trio whose hits included "Bei Mir Bist Du Schon" in 1937, "I Can Dream, Can't I?" in 1938 and "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy of Company B" in 1941. The Andrews Sisters sold more than 75 million records and were considered the most popular female singing group during the first half of the 20th century. She died at age 94 on Jan. 30.
Annette Funicello was a teen star as a perky Mouseketeer on "The Mickey Mouse Club" during the 1950s. She also had several hit records from 1959 to 1960 including "Tall Paul," "First Name Initial," "O Dio Mio" and "Pineapple Princess." She then teamed with teen heart throb Frankie Avalon on a string of 1960s beach movies with names like "Beach Party Bingo." Funicello died on April 8 at age 72.
George Jones was a musician, singer and songwriter who achieved international fame for his long list of hit records, including "White Lightning" as well as his distinctive voice. The Texan was frequently referred to as the greatest living country singer. In 1959, Jones released a cover version of "White Lightning" by J.P. Richardson (the Big Bopper), which launched his career as a singer. Married for a brief time to country singer Tammy Wynette, Jones had more than 150 hits as a solo artist and in duets. He died on April 26 at age 81.
Patti Page enjoyed an outstanding career covering the 1950s and 1960s. Among her greatest hits were "Tennessee Waltz" in 1950, "Mockin' Bird Hill" in 1951, "The Doggie in the Window" in 1953, "Let Me Go Lover!" in 1954, "Allegheny Moon" in 1956, "Old Cape Cod" in 1957, "Left Right Out of Your Heart" in 1958 and "Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte" in 1965. "Tennessee Waltz" scored the rare achievement of reaching No. 1 on the pop, country and R&B charts simultaneously and was officially adopted as one of two official songs by the state of Tennessee. She died at age 85 on Jan. 1, 2013.
Ray Price was among country's most exacting singers. Known as the "Cherokee Cowboy," he was also extremely smart at selecting material, recording songs by stars like Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson, Bill Anderson, Mel Tillis, Harlan Howard and Roger Miller. He had more than 100 hits during his glittering career and Price's influence is still felt. He died on Dec. 16 at age 87.
Here are some of the other stars who died in 2013.
An R&B singer and producer, Jewel Akens had his only top 40 hit in 1965 when the "The Birds and the Bees" rose to No. 3. He died on March 1 at age 79.
Bobby "Blue" Bland blended Southern blues and soul in his chart songs such as "Turn on Your Love Light" in 1962, "Call on Me" in 1963 and "Ain't Nothing You Can Do" in 1964. He died on June 23 at age 83.
Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner was the front man for the hit-making funk music band the Ohio Players. The group had No. 1 hits with "Fire" in 1974 and "Love Rollercoaster" in 1975. He died on Jan. 26 at age 69.
Chris Kelly was half of the 1990s rap duo Kris Kross who made one of the 1990s most memorable songs with "Jump," a No. 1 hit in 1992. The group had three other Top 20 hits – "Warm It Up" in 1992, "Alright" in 1993 and "Tonight's the Night" in 1995. He died on May 1 at age 34.
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Microelectromechanical system (MEMS) bridge capacitors have been used to design miniature and tunable bandpass filters at 18-22 GHz. Using coplanar waveguide transmission lines on a quartz substrate (εr = 3.8, tanδ = 0.0002), a miniature three-pole filter was developed with 8.6% bandwidth based on high-Q MEMS bridge capacitors. The miniature filter is approximately 3.5 times smaller than the standard filter with a midband insertion loss of 2.9 dB at 21.1 GHz. The MEMS bridges in this design can also be used as varactors to tune the passband. Such a tunable filter was made on a glass substrate (εr = 4.6, tanδ = 0.006). Over a tuning range of 14% from 18.6 to 21.4 GHz, the miniature tunable filter has a fractional bandwidth of 7.5 ± 0.2% and a midband insertion loss of 3.85-4.15 dB. The IIP3 of the miniature-tunable filter is measured at 32 dBm for the difference frequency of 50 kHz. The IIP3 increases to >50 dBm for difference frequencies greater than 150 kHz. Simple mechanical simulation with a maximum dc and ac (ramp) tuning voltages of 50 V indicates that the filter can tune at a conservative rate of 150-300 MHz/μs.


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From Pesticides to Medicinal Drugs: Time Series Analyses of Methods of Self-Harm in Sri Lanka/Des Pesticides Aux Medicaments: Analyses De Series Chronologiques Des Methodes D'automutilation Au Sri Lanka/De Los Pesiticidas a Los Farmacos: Analisis De Series Termporales De Los Metodos De Autolesion En Sri Lanka
de Silva, Varuni A., Senanayake, S. M., Dias, P., Hanwella, R., Bulletin of the World Health Organization
Although adoption of new modes of self-harm by a population does not occur often, when it does happen it can have an impact on the incidence of suicide in that population (in this article we use the word suicide only to mean death by self-harm, excluding failed attempts at fatal self-harm). Many such changes result from reduced access to a means of suicide. (1) In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, for example, the removal of carbon monoxide from the gas supply was associated with a reduction in the overall suicide rate. (2) Introduction of catalytic converters, which reduced the amount of carbon monoxide emitted by car exhausts, was also associated with a fall in the overall incidence of suicide. (3)
Sri Lanka is a developing country that once recorded very high suicide rates. During the period from 1985 to 1989, for example, the national suicide rate for males was the second highest in the world. (4) Before 1960, hanging was the commonest method of suicide in Sri Lanka. In the 1960s, 75% of all suicides by poisoning were caused by ingestion of acetic acid, which was used in rubber processing. (5) The national incidence of suicide rose rapidly between 1970 and 1995 and peaked at 47.0 suicides per 100 000 population in 1995. (6) This increase, which was mainly attributable to pesticide-related deaths, coincided with the increasing pesticide imports that followed the adoption of open economic policies in 1977.
Since 1995 the incidence of suicide has gradually declined in Sri Lanka, (7) although this encouraging trend has gone almost unnoticed. Globally, most suicides in low- and middle-income countries are caused by pesticide poisoning. (8) It is estimated that 300 000 people die annually in Asia from pesticide ingestion. (9) The general means of self-poisoning is very different in high-income countries, where analgesics, tranquillizers and other medicinal drugs are commonly used in overdose. (10) Compared with pesticides, many such drugs are relatively non-toxic. (8) The much higher case fatality rate (CFR) from pesticide poisoning (compared with that of medicinal drug overdose) is a major contributor to deaths from suicide in developing countries. (11,12)
In the absence of any restriction on the availability of the methods previously used, method substitution in self-harm (i.e. the abandonment of one common method of self-harm and its substitution with another method) has not been widely reported. Although, as in many developing countries, pesticide poisoning is a major cause of death in Sri Lanka, (8,13) medicinal drugs were found to be the commonest substances used by the self-poisoning patients investigated at a tertiary care hospital in the city of Colombo in 2007. (14) We set out to investigate recent changes in the methods of self-harm in Sri Lanka--particularly the changes in the methods employed by people attempting suicide--and to explore if such changes could explain the substantial decline in suicide rates.
Data were collected for the period from 1995 to 2009. Data from the records of the Sri Lanka police force were used to calculate annual incidence rates of suicide. As a coroner's inquest is conducted into every unnatural death in Sri Lanka, the police records on suicides were viewed as comprehensive. The data collected were for suicide by any method, suicide by poisoning and suicide by any method other than poisoning. Until the year 2002, when a new coding category was introduced, the cause of large numbers of unnatural deaths was simply classified as "other means" Since the results of previous studies indicate that most such deaths by "other means" were the result of poisoning, (6,15) they were all attributed to poisoning in the present analysis. Annual health statistics from the national ministry of health were used as the source of data on poisoning-related hospital admissions. Estimated mid-year populations for Sri Lanka were used to convert the collected data to annual incidence rates, which throughout this paper are given as the numbers of suicides or admissions for poisonings per 100 000 population. …


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I just bought this new xfx 6800xt agp card from newegg and I installed the latest drivers 93.71 last night and the card and when trying splinter cell double agent theres was like graphical corruption going on in the game like i see greenish lights or tearing or something. Well i fired up might and magic dark of messiah and it was doing the same thing.
So today decided to uninstall the driversand install older 91.47 fresh, well loading up splinter cell again I saw a little of that graphic issue in the main menus and i started playing it every 10-15 seconds I see that really quick but not as severe as last nite.
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i had the same problem, it was hard to diagnose, the car stalled at traffic lights and needed half an hour to start again and then it would start and run like nothing happened.. the crank shaft sensor was the culprit. we changed that and now no problem.. ps.. we first thought it was a fuel related problem... - Visitor
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Alternatively, a large major company in the solar energy or pure water business could be enticed to develop a system for sales in Nigeria and offer franchises to entrepreneurs to sell and service units in different parts of the country, providing credit and training as required.
In the previous chapters and in the following recommendations, reference is frequently made to the "Nigerian government." However, in Nigeria, as in most countries, government exists at several levels—generically, federal, state, and local. The present distribution of power frequently allows the state and local levels of government to undertake actions such as those proposed here. Moreover, they may have easy accessibility to the poor rural populace and community-based projects that are involved. Here we do not try to determine which level of the Nigerian government system is most appropriate for the indicated action. The term government should therefore be understood to apply to all three, with the hope that the recommendation will be considered by the one that is most interested and effective.
Recommendation: The Nigerian government should develop a system of incentives to encourage private companies to sell and service solar electric systems for the home to rural residents who are not connected to the national grid. The Nigerian government also should develop a system of incentives to encourage private companies to sell and service water purification systems to communities that are not served by municipal or national water supplies, or to produce household filtering systems for safe drinking water.
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A junior at Central Community High School, Elkader, Doeppke also has been involved in the clothing, beef and photography project areas and has received a senior record book award and a seal of excellence for a working exhibit at the state fair. She has served as club president, been a member of her county 4-H council and attended the Iowa 4-H Youth Conference and Citizenship-Washington Focus.
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Sony was already heading down the toilet. They botched EQ2 extended in addition to their horrible sparkly vampire update, DCUO was a flop, and they don't support their old games very well if at all. The hackngs illustrate their problems run deeper than just poor MMO management.
SoE lacks vision and focus. Either they need to get that focus and start doing it right or just shut down their MMOs and focus on consoles.
To paraphrase Curt Schilling (38Studios), there are only 24 hours in a day and life is too short and gaming time too limited to waste that time on games that suck.
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Originally posted by Beachcomber
It's the adjective for monetize. It's just spelled incorrectly but no biggie, it's a forum for fast or "quick" insertion of thoughts.
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Originally posted by Regalius
I think gamers have got to the the most "thrifty" people around.
$40 is a fleecing?
I'd pay far more for "good" content.
companies should get paid for their efforts. of course, if people find that the prices they are charging don't coincide with the quality of the product then don't buy it. But Iv'e never had problems paying for content, especially the minimal amount that these game companies charge.
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Originally posted by Sovrath
thats all very well for F2P games. or rather.. B2P games.. but for P2P.. all i see is that every paid expansion is little short of a cash grab on the part of the MMO.. i much prefer the Eve Online method.. where all expansions/updates are included in the monthly Sub.. .. their not actually free... but there is no 'additional' charge. .. and yes.. i would consider $40 fleecing if it was for a game you had already bought, and were paying a monthly subscription for.. and although i do play WoW.. among other MMO's.. i don't think their expansions really warrant an additional charge... though at least their expansion releases are not all that frequent - Everquest was far more 'prolific' i think it even has more than 10 expansions that people have had to buy over the years.. probably a bit extreme but i would regard that as being a good example of a bad example...
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Originally posted by Sovrath
I think people would not complain about the cost of the expansion, but in the case of EQ2 it really seems that SOE keeps cutting corners just so that they can sell an expansion every year. They keep getting smaller, less polished and seem to randomly change mechanics without lack of long term goals.
I would wager that the majority of players would rate the last 3 expansion the worst expansions of EQ2. Possibly in chronological order.
TLDR: Soe seems more concerned with putting something out that sells for $40 a year, than it does about putting out great content every twelve months.
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I think worst case Sony will get rid of SOE, but only in the worst case, and even then I think they will do everything they can to make it work. Maybe we will start seeing some IPs getting sold off to help them ease the burden of all the money they are spending to fix the breach. I used to be a huge SOE supporter years ago when SWG was newer. Since the NGE I don't play their MMOs much. I do beta test anything I can get my hands on though, which included DCUO but never picked it up. I really hope Sony can pull SOE through this and keep making games. I know alot of people want to see the SOE part of Sony die but I can't help but feel for all the people who enjoy and play SOE products. If my favorite MMO got shut down I don't know what I would do and wouldn't want it to happen to others, no matter how I feel about the company.
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Despite all the theory-crafting, SOE has some of the best MMOs in house, 45 days for free.
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Originally posted by Herodes
Im intrigued, please name these top sellers?
The Deathstar destroyed planets...Lucas Arts destroyed Galaxies
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So you wont be playing TOR then as 50% of the SWG team are working on it ?
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Originally posted by thamighty213
swtor will be the biggest fail of them all... only time will tell though.
The Deathstar destroyed planets...Lucas Arts destroyed Galaxies
SOE is the land of misfit MMOs. They seem willing to, as a business model, run MMOs into the ground, with skeleton staffs, to milk as much money from players as possible,
This does not sit will with me as a potential customer. It takes money to make money. You have to INVEST in your products. It seems that SOE feels like their products are crap and do not merit the kind of investment that will make players go "WOW", and draw in new players...drawing in new players is really crucial to an MMO, IMO. It gives them the appearance and feeling of life and viability. An active community, versus a community of old salts that are die hards....lol
A prime example...look at the way SOE handled the TCG and SWG. SWG has been STARVING for content for years and years now, with a VERY thin developer bench. Yet in the TCG, they tie up significant art assets for in game items...the best structures every released for the game, buff items, cosmetic items, a little bit of everything. But definitely some items that can affect gameplay. Then they have the NERVE to tell us that "different" resources are being used for the in game art...yeah. Right. Except very little in game art of the same quality OR quantity is ever released outside of the TCG anymore...ok for a F2P game, but NOT for a P2P game with a TCG saddled on its back. THe card game and teh card game items should be kept COMPLETELY separate in a P2P game...
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SOE has become a joke in the MMO industry and has added to the degradation of the entire genre.
Sony should have taken advantage of the SOE hacker woes and DCUs less than stellar launch to clean house among SOE senior management. SOE has been a broken, disfunctional division of Sony for many, many years now and that can all be attributed to mismanagement; from Smedley on down to a good chunk of middle management. (If Sony corporate is waiting for Smedley's sense of honor to compel him to resign, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell them).
IMO, SOE has done more than underperform for Sony, it has actually tarnished the Sony corporate brand among consumers who have had direct or indirect experience with SOE. (A decade ago, I used to insist on Sony electronics. Now I buy nothing that is Sony. When deciding between an XBox 360 and a PS3, I went with the XBox because of my negative experiences with SOE, in spite of not being a huge MS fan).
SOE still has the potential to do good things in the MMO space, but IMO it's not going to ever happen unless they ditch Smedley and his "yes men" in SOE management and bring in management that has some clue what they are doing and cares about what potential customers want.
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Of course SOE can make it. For their calamitous past and obvious failings to actually catch up with them would necessitate the general gaming populace showing some sort intelligence, something it is not really noted for in fairness.
Multitudes of people couldn't wait to jump in on DCUO, even with the knowledge of just how 'well' the companies current stable of games is doing. People actually seemed suprised it struggled, because people in general never learn. After the recent hacking debacle, many gamers seemed more concerned with SOE getting their service back online double quick so they could re-enter new personal information and cc details in order to get some completely meaningless in game trinket.
If anything the future for SOE should be rosy, the days of sandbox and longevity in mmos has waned. Now they are all about the quick fix. SOE can bang out substandard products safe in the knowledge that there will always be plenty of suckers out there willing to fork out for it, with little to zero real consideration for their own onine security.
1. This hack really shouldnt change anyone's opinions about the SoE division, it speaks much more prominently about Sony itself. There were 2, possibly 3, seperate divisions of Sony that got hacked. (I say possibly 3 because that sweepstakes database last I saw had no division attached to it. Could have been a sweepstakes to win a new DVD player back in 2001 for all we know). That means its Sony itself that has the seemingly lax attitude about security.
Also I am in the 'it could have happened to anyone' camp. Im sure Blizzard and NCSoft and others have ways in too if people look hard enough.
2. I agree with firing Smedley. And I dont blame him for the NGE, and I think a lot of people's common SoE gripes are ones that should be leveled towards any other company (Blizzard is no less greedy and customer unfriendly as SoE for instance)
However it seems ot me SoE has a communication problem, within itself. Its seems like one department doesnt know what the other is doing. This ship isnt being run tightly at all.
Combine that with the PR boost SoE would get from firing Smedley. I guarantee there would be a substantial rise in reactivated accounts if that were too happen. For that reason alone Sony should step in and get rid of Smed.
3. SoEs biggest issue with their actual games is optimization. They run like crap, period. Good computers still struggle with EQ2, theres no reason for this.
Now to discuss the revisionist history with Vanguard and SWG: These games were failures already.
SoE was doing a damn good job fixing Sigil's awful coding and adding content to VG. Sure, wasnt as fast as people wanted, but people werent playing. Theres no hope for VG to be a big player, even with a different developer. maybe it can get up to 100k, but event hat is questionable. No MMO has ever risen fromt he ashes after a spectacular failure. Somewhere along the line maybe one will be the first. Square is sure hoping so.
MMO failures are nothing new now sadly. But they were in 2004. Prior MMOs showed constant growth over their first several years. But here was SWG. SOE and LA sitting around watching plummeting sub numbers, and panicing. Its been said that at the time of NGE SWG had between 160-180k subs and falling at a clip of 10k per month. This was a collosal disaster and a sinking ship. Obviously NGE just blow a much bigger hole in the ship, but people talk about how SWG was a great game. It wasn't. Far from it. Yes, this was SoE's fault too, the game released too early, was unbalanced, and had a severe lack of content. Oddly enough, those last two factors are fixed now and SWG is actually a decent game. But yes, they had a brilliant class system and gutted it.
But again, the NGE was not all SoE. In fact all signs point towards HEAVY involvement from LA about it, and they were the ones who have the final say in their lp. But that has been rehashed a thousand times and people will always fail to look at the situation logically.
Ny opinion of SoE's major titles:
EQ: B+ at release, A a few years after, far too aged now
EQ2: C+ at release, B+ a few years after, B now
SWG: C- at release (F in content and balance, A+ in crafting, A in community aspect, A in skill ssytem design), B- now (C+ in content and balance, A in crafting, B in community, C in class design). Although SWG could be an A by now if they worked with it instead of changed it. It still wouldnt have a large population, but maybe could be EQ sized.
Im not sure if SoE has a big hit in them. I like their games better than most though, but that speaks more for the competition than for SoE.
You can thank Blizzard for this.
And I would imagine that the time it takes to design that stuff is pretty insignificant. its not like SWG is lacking for housing items and mounts.
The list of housing items released in the TCG is a very very long list of the coolest structures in the game, for example:
jedi temple, sith temple, bathhouse, cloud city house, at-at house, vip bunker, weapons bunker, dagobah house, and diner...I probably missed some.
As far as revision ist history, SWG was doing fine before the NGE, just not as good as WoW. The NGE was SOEs attempt to capture some of the WoW kiddie audience by simplifying down to fewer, simpler, more "iconic" classes and simplyfing gameply down to a kill/loot/kill model. The trials of obi wan, the LAST swg expansion, came out right when they hit the playerbase with the NGE. Instead of that expansion being successful and capitalzing off the movie tie in, it was a disaster with people demanding their money back, and sony caving in to them, because they screwed the game up so bad.
After the NGE disaster, the playerbase apparently was never large enough again for SOE to consider another expansion or doing much with the game, other than finishing some pieces of the NGE (expertise for the gutted, cookie cutter classes) and rolling back much more of the NGE with everything from scrapping clicky combat to reintroducing CH with a new beastmaster system and tkm with a combat entertainer...
oh yeah, the starship hanger and the vehicle hanger, the imperial spire and the rebel spire, and the creature barn, and Im STILL probably missing some more...
Again I posted the numbers, between 160-180k and heavily bleeding. That is *not* doing well. While the CU was partly to blame for that, the numbers really were a steady decline from the first couple months. Games are supposed to trend upwards during that time, not downwards.
And the 'iconic' classes were more than likely NOT SoEs idea. Really this kind of nonsense should have stopped long ago.
And most of those special structures need to stay rare, the kashykk trees look so damn ridiculous everywhere, SoE should not have even put them in the game. And now that everyone gets a free loot card every planet is gonna look like dagobah. Its not like they dont give you the chance to get them for free
Where are you getting those numbers from? I seriously doubt they are authoritative.
Irregardless, we know one thing for sure, whatever they were before teh NGE, they were much worse after the NGE and the game never recovered.
The latest SOE news only validates what the so called "haters" have been saying.
That only makes the negative momentum stronger.
In an online service. One that you 'invest time' in. Trust is everything.
The only thing that could help SOE 'recover' is the one thing they will never do. Any encouragement for them to continue investing in themselves before that, is helping them fail harder in my opinion.
Gamers have been giving thier opinions of SOE since the EQ takeover. Now that it's way too late the questions get asked. When they could have helped, there was silence or interceding on their behalf.


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