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I'll throw my flag into this one too.
A while back we discovered that Cessna installs their propellers in such a way that hand proping is a little more dangerous.
Most hand prop to start aircraft have the propeller installed so that the magneto fires with the prop blade around the 10 O'clock position(looking towards the tail). This allows the starter to keep his center of balance back as he pulls the prop through.
Your run of the mill Cessna has the propeller installed such that the mags fire around the 7 O'clock position. This means the starter really needs to bend over almost into the prop disc to achieve enough movement to snap the prop through.
Anyone who doesn't have the patience at an FBO to get a jump probably isn't in the correct frame of mind to be flying in the first place.
I whole heartedly recommend people learn to properly hand start an aircraft.
It's better than trying to figure it out in the middle of nowhere.
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Patience at the FBO may not be the issue, you might land somewhere and a small unattended airport, get out for a leg strech, climb back into the plane and discover that your weak generator did not keep your battery charged
That did happen, and I'm glad I had the skill to prop my plane. I was no where near home, I had a cell phone and could have called for help but that would have been a huge hassle. Now, if I were in a bonanza or 182 or something bigger than my 172 then I would have used the phone and called for help
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Without taking a position on whether or not one should hand prop a Cessna, I think the reason this thread took a turn toward handpropping is that George rightly pointed out that a generator equipped airplane with a dead battery can be handpropped to get it started, and the generator will begin charging the battery.
An alternator equipped airplane, on the other hand, requires an excitation voltage for the alternator to begin charging the battery, and with a dead battery there's no excitation voltage. So, even though the engine can be handpropped, the electrical system remains dead as a doornail. No lights, no radios. The only way to start an alternator equipped airplane AND get the alternator to charge the battery is to jump start it so there's enough excitation voltage to get the alternator charging the battery.
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Not sure I understand what "excitation voltage" is. With a dead battery and my plane equiped with an alternator are you says that once I hand prop it and it's running, even at high RPM I still won't have any electrical system working?
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Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying, and that was George's point in his reply to my long post explaining my rationale for putting in an alternator. He was pointing out that if you have a dead battery with an alternator, you either have to charge your battery or get a jump start to provide excitation to the alternator field. If you don't, no matter how high you rev your engine after hand propping it to get it started, the alternator won't put out any current. The reason is that if there isn't enough battery power to energize the battery contactor, there won't be any current to the alternator field, and the alternator can't restart. Alternator field windings only require an amp or two of current, but if the battery is so dead that the contactor doesn't pull in, the field windings never get power.
The key is not to let your battery go dead, therefore George's advice to keep your beacon on all the time so you don't forget to turn off the master switch.
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Mark wrote: "If the 8 gauge wire from generator to the 60 amp breaker is directly shorted to the bus bar or the airframe, the breaker is not in the circuit. Pulling it has no effect whatsoever. If you have a generator, this means all of the amps the generator puts out will go through the short, and there is nothing in flight you can do about it (except stopping the engine). "
You are incorrect Mark. Pulling the CB or fuse on either an alternator OR a generator does exactly the same thing. It disables the regulator circuit on either unit, and either unit immediately stops producing current. The failure mode you imagined above would apply equally to BOTH types of generators. (An alternator is more accurately called an "alternating current generator", we've just adopted the slang term "alternator" for convenience. The alternating current is rectified by diodes into Direct current prior to it's introduction onto the aircraft electrical buss. A short on that "8 gauge wire" at the location you imagine with EITHER unit would cause a reverse current from the battery to the gen or alt and would "pop" that breaker and shut down the gen/alt.
Mark wrote: "Hand propping a plane which has an engine driven electrical system and was designed for starting by use of a starter is illegal...."
and also: "Airplanes with electric starters were not designed or intended to be hand propped. Planes which are designed for hand prop often have impulse couplings, retarded timing, and the nose is up in such a way that it is natural to pull down and step away."
Again, Mark, you are incorrect. It is not "illegal" to hand prop an airplane. Hand propping airplanes is a time-honored (if not forgotten) method of starting airplanes. There is nothing inherently illegal about it. There may be some local ordinance at your airport against it, but it's likely not enforceable, as too many airplanes can only be started by hand-propping BY DESIGN. As for impulse couplings, retarded timing, etc. etc.......ALL ELECTRIC START airplanes are also so equipped. Whether or not an airplane is equipped with a self-starter or not.....has nothing to do with it's method of retarding ignition during start. Virtually all reciprocating engined airplanes have some method of retarding the ignition during start. (Virtually, but not all. In actual fact, many of the earlier airplanes that were DESIGNED to be HAND PROPPED had NO impulse couplings...NO retarded timing...at all, Mark. Many Cubs, Taylorcrafts, Aeroncas, etc. were economy aircraft with simpler magnetos that had no provision for retarded start. It's exactly the OPPOSITE of what you say, Mark.)
(This is NOT intended to encourage those of you not familiar, comfortable, or not properly instructed in the correct method of hand-propping an airplane to try this. If you're intimidated by it, that's good. Leave it alone, and call for a mechanic or a ground start machine. There's no such thing as being overly-cautious in this regard. I just want to correct the information.)
Mark wrote: "Our examiner here ran a taildragger flight school and specifically asked the FSDO about hand propping planes with the A65-12 engine. This engine has an electric starter. Both the FSDO and his commercial insurer told him he was out of luck if there was an incident and someone was hurt. They told him this was not a recommended or approved procedure. His name is Paul King, and he is the examiner here at WVI. Call him if you'd like more info,..."
That simply is unworthy of belief. The main difference between the Continental A-series engines and the C-series engine is that the A's (such as the A-65's) were SPECIFICALLY NOT equipped with starters. In fact, they can't be retrofitted either. And the FSDO has no jurisdiction over whether or not someone wishes to hand-prop an aircraft. While operating a Part 91 aircraft with a failed starter MAY be considered operation with inoperable equipment, ....that would be determined by whether or not there was a MEL for the aircraft addressing the issue. (In any case, there are thousands of aircraft flying that do not have starters in them and they are started and fly quite legally every day by hand-propping.) In the example I used above, a discharged battery could be re-charged with a generator system by hand-propping while an alternator equipped airplane could not. Once the battery was re-charged by the generator, there would no longer exist a failed system to prevent legally flying the aircraft.
On the other hand, an alternator equipped airplane, being unable to re-charge it's battery WOULD be ILLEGAL to fly without a MEL providing for that type failure.
It matters not to me whether someone wishes to convert their airplane or no. Each system has it's own advantages as well as disadvantages and I hoped to shed a little light on the subject. There's no reason to introduce a lot of unrelated and incorrect information on the subject to bring others to your viewpoint just to persuade them to make the same choice as you did.
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Jack, you asked, "What about the starter bendix that has it's gears meshed with the ring gear."
That bendix only appears to be engaged with the ring gear. In fact, it is DIS-engaged until the starter motor's spinning action propels it forward to engage the gear.
Roger, ...the propeller installation should have the #1 blade installed at the 1-2 O'clock position as viewed from the pilot's seat, in accordance with the Service Manual. (A 3-blade prop would have it at the 6 o'clock position.) In all cases this places one of the blades at the correct position for propping, (although that may not be the reason for it. The reason for it being that position places the blade at optimum advantage with regard to relative wind for power produced by the firing cylinder. Remember the P-factor discussion in ground-school?)
The most difficult hand-propping situation is one on a "shower of sparks" (Bendix) magneto system, because the ignition is not retarded without the ignition switch in the start position. (That's when the regular points are by-passed and the retard breaker-points are engaged.) In such aircraft (Mooney's, most Beech's and twin Cessna's) the engine can "kick-back" pulling an unwary person back into the moving propeller. Shower-of-Sparks (Bendix vibrator type) magneto systems are good candidates to refuse to hand-prop, no matter how much propping experience one has.
(As a side-story, I once saw an ex-Marine hand-prop a DC-3!! I couldn't believe how he did it. He walked the prop through about 4 turns and got the prop just where he wanted it, called to the cockpit "Contact!" and when the Captain switched the mags on, he took a running start with a bath-towel rolled up and padded onto his left shoulder and threw a football-style "block" against the lower prop blade. His momentum carried him on through, and the engine, amid huge blue clouds of smoke belched and caught! After the batteries were re-charged they started the other one normally and flew away.)
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 The worst hand propping senerio I tackled was a DeHavilland Beaver. One time was all it took to tell me "I'll NEVER do that again" When that thing popped off - I thought I'd had it! I think it was the size of those blades whizzing in front of my face that did it..
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"Pulling the CB or fuse on either an alternator OR a generator does exactly the same thing." Sure, but only if you have one...
My 172, before my alternator conversion, had NO pullable breakers, and NO split switch.
Hmmm...George, if I'd heard your advice and thought about this ahead of time, I may have just put in a pullable breaker instead of the whole conversion I'm a big fan of pullable breakers for everything...
A65-12. "That simply is unworthy of belief." My understanding was that the -12 meant electric starter on it and the -8 was without an electric starter. I didn't consider the A vs. C as significant. Again, if you are actually concerned about this, call Paul King, (831) 724-2759 here at Watsonville. While you're at it, schedule your next check ride with him, and stop in SCFC for some coffee <SHAMELESS PLUG>
As far as DC-3's, I'm REALLY glad I'm not the FO if hand/shoulder propping it is part of the job...hell, my little baby ace 74-42 prop looks menacing enough...and no, I don't have electric start (I may have to install one to make the first A65-12, after all, it's an experimental...)
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Mr. Horn,
re:"your words are good and (mostly) correct. A battery's purpose is NOT for starting. "
Then.......ummmm...we don't need to turn the Master switch on, and somehow our engines will start ? I'll try that tomorrow and let you know if it works. <G>
Maybe you're referring to a Sukhoi aircraft that uses compressed air for starting ? Then the battery is for backup electrical purposes, maybe ?
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Concerts and Special Events A message from the Acting Dean Monday 22 December The Archbishop of Canterbury recently visited 1.00pm Traditional Carol Concert with guest Birmingham and spoke about three-dimensional presenters from BBC Radio WM citizenship in a conversation with the Faith Leaders of the city. Schola Philippi with Stuart Nicholson (organ) He encouraged us to think about the nature of faith in society and commented that the model that people directed by Marcus Huxley sometimes work with is what he calls the 'leave your hat at the door' model: Tickets available from the Cathedral and on the door - £5.00 (concessions 'You're a person of faith? Alright, we will allow you to Come and £4.00) join in the discussion of what matters in society, nationally or locally, if you leave your distinctive clothes at the door. Don't bring in your convictions! Don't bring This concert will be broadcast on BBC WM on 95.6 FM in the deepest springs of your moral imagination! Leave on Christmas Eve and on Christmas Day. that outside because it'll only complicate things.' More information may be obtained from: This model fails to understand that someone's religious faith is not a hobby or leisure activity, but something formative of their vision of what human beings are like. Celebrate Christmas Christmas is one time in the year when Christian faith 'is Birmingham Cathedral, allowed' public space and the Good News of Jesus Christ Colmore Row, Birmingham B3 2QB is proclaimed in word, music and celebration. People of 0121 262 1840 all ages listen again to the story of how one small baby boy changed the course of human history and helped to 2008 firstname.lastname@example.com reconnect the created with the creator. For over two thousand years people of different language, We wish you a culture and creed have come to recognise that in Jesus we happy and joyful Christmas can find hope and peace in a society that is so often in and New Year. crisis and uncertain about what the future holds. I am delighted to welcome you to Birmingham Cathedral to hear again the Good News of Christmas and encourage you to take that Good News out and share it with those whom you love, and work with and relate to in the daily course of your life. Birmingham Cathedral is open 365 days a year and we would be delighted to welcome you and pray with you whenever you are able. With every blessing Peter Howell-Jones - Acting Dean Advent Christmas Epiphany Sunday 21 December Sunday 30 November 9.00am Holy Communion Sunday 4 January 2009 9.00am Holy Communion 10.00am Morning Prayer The Second Sunday of Christmas 11.00am Choral Eucharist 10.00am Morning Prayer 9.00am Holy Communion Cathedral Choir (Boys' & Men's voices) 11.00am Choral Eucharist 10.00am Morning Prayer Preacher: The Acting Dean Cathedral Choir (Girls' & Men's voices) 11.00am Sung Eucharist Preacher: The Canon Missioner 3.30pm Choral Evensong (BCP) Chapter House Singers Cathedral Choir (Schola Philippi) Preacher: The Canon Missioner 3.30pm Advent Procession by Candlelight Schola Philippi jointly with St Chad's Wednesday 24 December Cathedral Singers 3.30pm Evening Prayer (BCP) Christmas Eve Sunday 7 December 7.30am Morning Prayer and Holy Communion Tuesday 6 January 5.30pm Festival of Nine Lessons & Carols 9.00am Holy Communion Cathedral Choir (Boys' & Men's voices) Epiphany 10.00am Morning Prayer 11.30pm First Eucharist of Christmas and 7.30pm Choral Eucharist 11.00am Choral Eucharist Blessing of the Crib Cathedral Choir (Schola Philippi voices) Cathedral Choir (Boys' & Men's voices) Chapter House Singers Preacher: The Acting Dean Preacher: The Revd Tim Clarke Preacher: The Canon Missioner 3.30pm Choral Evensong (BCP) Thursday 25 December Monday 2 February 2009 Cathedral Choir (Girls' and Men's voices) Christmas Day Candlemas Sunday 14 December 10.00am Morning Prayer 7.30pm Choral Eucharist 11.00am Choral Eucharist Cathedral Choir (Schola Philippi voices) 9.00am Holy Communion Cathedral Choir (Girls' and Men's voices) Preacher: The Canon Missioner 10.00am Morning Prayer Preacher: The Bishop of Birmingham. 11.00am Choral Eucharist The Rt Revd David Urquhart Unless otherwise stated, all Eucharistic services at Birmingham Cathedral Choir (Girls' & Men's voices) Sunday 28 December Cathedral follow the pattern according to Common Worship. Preacher: Canon Dr Paula Gooder The Holy Innocents 3.30pm Co-op Memorial Service 9.00am Holy Communion Cathedral Choir (Boys' voices) 10.00am Morning Prayer 11.00am Choral Eucharist Bristol Cathedral Chamber Choir Preacher: The Revd Tim Clarke 3.30pm Choral Evensong (BCP) Bristol Cathedral Chamber Choir Preacher: The Canon Liturgist
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What kind of battery for adventuring, is Lithium up to the challenge?
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Hi all, I'm not dead and no, my job is not restricting me from the internet :)
I moved up to service manager and am in the process of becoming an owner and have simply working and training so much I had no time for the internet.
I have caught up on the learning now, so hopefully am back.
I have just finished reading all the posts since I was last on this thread and have absolutely no chance of responding to all the posts in the immediate future, but perhaps soon. But.... Ill comment on a few and then its night night for me and off to work in 5 hours.
1: There hasn't been a summary so far because I was no where near done testing. I have had four careers in my life that influence my approach to testing. First was automotive technician, shop foreman, service manager and lastly field service engineer. This taught me things break but you really can't draw conclusions from a smattering of personal experiences. As an FSE I got to see figures on any part and application failure rate world wide. Sometimes a part that holds up great in Sweden fails at an alarming rate in California due to variables you hadn't considered. Next up I became an EMT Although it's rare, sometimes if your motorcycle or car won't start, you die. Disasters happen as do shootings and forest fires. (oh yeah, I fought wild land fires for 2 summers. terrible job but exciting). It's always possible that an emergency responder will follow my recommendation, (Actually the St. Louis FD did) and even if your not an emergency responder there are places your motorcycle could fail to start that could endanger your life, East St Louis for instance lmao and certainly some places people adventure ride. I feel extreme responsibility about making recommendations. Next up I was an industrial electrician. Once again I got to experience breakages on a scale that taught me to expect the unexpected and discount small scale experience with light duty use, so I TEST AND RETEST AND THEN I ABUSE. Once done with that, I test more and then start tracking large volumes of units.
I have done that now, not only have I continued testing but once reasonably satisfied with the results, brought Antigravity into my dealership and have sold them to locals on an epic scale. ZERO FAILURES of batteries sold to locals! ALL of my tester Antigravity batteries are still functioning in motorcycles even after I torture tested them and got some to vent (small hissing noises on the Antigravities NOT to be mistaken for the incredible headers of white smoke followed by black smoke and the battery cases melting I experenced during testing of Shorais).
I recommend properly sized Antigravity batteries in both every day and adventure rides. Properly sized does not mean you followed Scott's application chart. Testing his battery in every model and make of motorcycle he has listed is scarcely possible and not practical. It is Far better to take parasitic and load tests on the specific model of bike you have as well as take idiosyncrasies of that bike into account.
I recommend a large and quality LiFePO4 battery above a lead/acid battery for adventure riding, especially on fuel injected bikes. The reason is that 22 years spent mostly in the automotive and motorcycle fields has given me thousands of examples where a battery with more cranking power will start a bike or car that an average or weak battery will not, even if you crank and charge all day. Aprilia and Moto Guzzi thank goodness do not have issues with fuel injectors sticking but BMW does, they have a big dang issue with sticky injectors which will often be experienced with questionable fuel you get while adventure riding to remote corners of the globe. System cranking voltage has a proportional effect on how hard injector solenoids pull to lift a stuck injector pintle. At Gateway BMW i virtually never failed at starting a bike that came in on a tow truck due to stuck injectors by simply hooking up an oversized boost box or tossing in a more powerful battery. Thats just one example, but, a battery that will crank stronger longer will avoid a huge number of long walks and tows.
For the F800GS I recommend an Antigravity 12 cell if your daily "adventure" is to starbucks and a 16 cell if your going to ride in the winter or adventure ride away from humanity or in extreme cold. For the R1200GS/ADV the 16 cell for starbucks and 20 cell for adventure.
I also have enough experience testing Shorai as well as data on failures from 3 dealerships to recommend you NOT buy them. Sure an LFX36 will start an R80G/S or anything else in BMW's line-up because this is light duty for this battery, but for smaller sized units, empirical data I have observed, Shorai has well above average defect and failure ratios. If your using them light duty the odds are probably 9 out of 10 that you will be fine but if your going on an adventure or are going to spend the big bucks, why not spend the same dollar amount on a battery from a manufacture whos smaller highly stressed batteries DO hold up well!
earthX, the jury is still out. I am testing them and so far I LIKE them. pound for pound, CCA rating for CCA rating, list price for list price they blow the doors off of Shorai and compete neck and neck with Antigravity. They may be better or worse then Antigravity, time will tell, but you certainly will not be buying anything less then an excellent battery with Antigravity regardless of how the earthX performs. Stay tuned for another month for harder data with earthX
EarthX uses A123 cells in their smallest battery and prismatic in their larger sizes, so both the people that earlier stated that they used cylindrical and prismatic were right and both were wrong lol. It depends on the size earthX battery you are talking about.
JRWooden, my stator fix is sill holding up in both bikes I fabbed it into, though 2 is a pretty small test group.
_CY_ I will be reading your test results AND duplicating them :) because more data is better and I LIKE data
To the guy that built a BMS that disconnects his battery, for the love of all thats sacred CHANGE YOUR REGULATOR! There isn't a capacitor thats big enough to damp like a battery unless you tow it behind on 4 wheels!
If you are determined to shove a square peg into a round hole then affix a bunch of bulbs with tungsten filaments and run them right at where they barely glow....................................... L and C is not the answer because the stator puts out variable frequencies and you may build yourself a tuned circuit that make things really exciting at a specific engine RPM. On a carburated bike with little electronics a cap would sort of help but NOT on a modern bike with electronics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, 4 hours of sleep then must fix a few dozen bikes. Back soon, I hope.
I missed you all.
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|Vintage Pulp
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Above, the cover of Amy Harris's 1962 novel Touch Me Gently, in which a woman's personality changes after she's attacked and violated during a midnight dip in the local swimming hole. The virgin-to-vengeful-vamp transformation triggered by a rape is an all-too-common scenario found everywhere from sleaze fiction to '70s sexploitation cinema to Japanese pinku films. On the one hand it's always highly distasteful; on the other it acknowledges the existence of these terrible events and allows women violent revenge. In terms of artistic merit, you have to judge on a case-by-case basis. But that's what it's always about with difficult subjects, isn't it? Done right, valuable understanding can result. The cover art by Paul Rader is excellent. No problem understanding that at all.
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Above and below you will find a large collection of pulp, post-pulp, and sleaze paperback fronts that have as their titles a character's first name. There are hundreds of examples of these but we stopped at thirty-two. The collection really highlights, more than others we've put together, how rarely vintage paperback art focuses on male characters. The prose is virtually all male-centered and male-driven, of course, but because the mid-century paperback market was male-driven too, that meant putting women on the covers to attract the male eye. We tell our girlfriends this all the time, but they still think we just don't bother looking for male-oriented vintage art. But we do. For this collection we found two novels that have male characters' names as their titles, and we looked pretty hard. If we had to guess, we'd say less than 5% of all pulp art is male-oriented. In any case, the illustrations come from the usual suspects—Barye Phillips, Robert McGinnis, Jef de Wulf, Paul Rader, et al., plus less recognized artists like Doug Weaver. Thanks to all the original uploaders for these.
|Vintage Pulp
|Nov 1 2014
Paul Rader once again demonstrates his genius with this cover for Brad Curtis's Man Trap, brought to us by always reliable Midwood Books, 1963. Curtis was a pseudonym used by Giles A. Lutz, predominantly a writer of westerns who made a few forays into thrillers. What we really like about this cover are the spangles in the background hinting at some wonderful nocturnal metropolis, doubtless rife with sex, sin, and other worthy pursuits. Pretty nice, too, how Rader slipped his signature—in this case a single "R"—onto the back of the menu.
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|Sep 15 2014
This is one of the prettiest Paul Rader covers we've seen, which is really saying something considering he painted this and this. But this stellar turquoise and gold effort for Joan Ellis's Sooner or Later may be our favorite Rader yet. Note how the placement of the girl's elbow suggests an erection on her tormented brother-in-law. Joan Ellis was in reality author Julie Ellis, and she also wrote as Linda Michaels, Jill Monte, and Susan Richard. She went on to author serious fiction, but even if those later books were better written, we bet none of them looked as appealing as this.
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Above, the cover of March Hastings' The Heat of the Day, one of many lesbian themed novels published by Midwood-Tower. It's the story of two girls whose blackened skeletons are found in a fire-scorched field. Well, not really. It's actually about two girls who meet at a summer camp and develop a scorching attraction for each other. 1963 on this one, with art by Paul Rader.
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Where would sleaze fiction be without Midwood Books? The company was launched in 1957 by Harry Shorten, and the sub-genre of office sleaze quickly became one the new company's linchpins. Below are some examples of these books, with art by the always excellent Paul Rader and others. Thanks to all the original uploaders.
|Vintage Pulp
|Jul 4 2013
You never forget your first kiss, right? Pulp and sleaze paperback covers have always been a medium for this form of affection, and so today we have for you below some of the most memorable kisses we've encountered over the years. A couple of these are from triplexbooks.com, a site we've already mentioned as worth a look. Art by Paul Rader, Louis Carrière, Ernest Chiriaka and others. Enjoy.
|Vintage Pulp
|May 30 2013
Above is a cover for 1963's Pajama Party, a book written by Peggy Swenson, who was in reality Richard E. Geis. Interesting fellow, Geis—he specialized in beatnik and counterculture sleaze, churning out lightweight novels like Bongo Bum, Beat Nymph, and Like Crazy, Man, and was indicted for obscenity over a novel called Three-Way Apartment. This was in 1964. Geis went to trial twice, first in California, then in federal court in Iowa. He was convicted but the case made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court where the panel overturned the verdict, thus making Geis's Three-Way Apartment one of those forgotten but important books that helped free publishing from the grip of reactionary prudes. After Geis's close call with the feds he must have felt artistically liberated, because his writing promptly went to the far ends, so to speak, of taste. Some titles: Anal Husbands and Deviant Wives, The Endless Orgy, Women and Bestiality, and, our two favorites—Orality '69 and its sequel Orality '70. Pajama Party was not so notable a book as those—five co-eds have a sleepover that involves a pillow fight, skinny-dipping, a striptease contest and a game of dares, before finally getting down to a little Sapphic lust—but we really like the Paul Rader cover, so there you go.
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We received an email a couple of days ago from a reader named Joe R., who pointed us toward an item about Norton Records, a New York City based vintage vinyl dealer whose Brooklyn warehouse was hit pretty hard by Hurricane Sandy (above you see a photo taken of the building just after the storm). According to Norton's website, most of their catalog stock was destroyed by floodwaters. Like many other vintage vinyl dealers, they also have a pretty nice stack of sleaze fiction, so you collectors out there might want to take a look at their selection. We've uploaded a few covers right and below, including Dale Koby's Sin Lens (art by Paul Rader), Milton Geller's Don't Like Me—Love Me!, and Frank Gavin's Crossfire. The prices are lower than you would typically find on, for instance, Ebay (where we came across a couple of items from Norton's catalog going for over $30, which is more than double what they charge). If you bought something you'd be supporting a business at a time of struggle, plus it's officially holiday season again, and nothing says Christmas quite like a sleaze paperback. Thanks, Joe, for sending this item over. Norton Records warehouse photo by Nick Cope


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As was previously reported, Michael McKean will play Chuck, Rhea Seehorn will play Kim, Patrick Fabian will play Hamlin and Michael Mando will play Nacho - all characters that will represent both legitimate and illegitimate sides of the law.
The duo were mum about other character descriptions, although in regards to Seehorn's character and the inevitable comparisons to Anna Gunn's Skyler White, Gilligan said he "will never write less-than-perfect women again."
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Former Los Angeles Lakers coach Phil Jackson has taken to Twitter and has given the public some pretty insightful and also quite random tweets. Today hasn't been any different. Jackson took to Twitter to give a friendly jab to one of his former players, Pau Gasol. Gasol tweeted about his last practice before the playoffs started and Jackson held nothing back from poking fun at the Spaniard. Jackson has stayed close to his former team, which was one of the reasons why many thought he'd be coaching them again this season. He's also tweeted with another former player in Kobe Bryant during his brief time on Twitter. Gasol's tweet was also sent at 11:03am MST, which seems pretty weird as the Lakers would then travel to San Antonio for an early game tomorrow. Still, if Jackson's message to Gasol motivates him against San Antonio, then Spurs fans will have yet another reason to dislike the "Zen Master." What do you think Spurs fans? Will the Lakers' travel plans play a part in Game 1 or should they have traveled to San Antonio a day earlier? (h/t Larry Brown Sports)
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As of Wednesday, April 4, 2012
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According to an Albany Police Department report, Catherine Lynette Coley, 23, is wanted on nine counts of computer theft. At about 8:30 p.m. Feb. 10, Kohl's department store management reported that Coley fraudulently obtained funds while employed at the store. Coley fled the scene after being confronted about the incidents. Officers attempted to locate her with negative results.
Coley was described as 5 feet 5 inches tall and weighing about 162 pounds. She has black hair and brown eyes.
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Meantime, Albany police responded to at least 40 incidents Tuesday into the early hours of Wednesday, according to available police reports. Police responded to incidents including:
-- Drunken driving on the 2200 block of Clark Avenue;
-- Motor vehicle theft on the 2700 block of Dover Lane;
-- Theft by taking on the 1400 block of Mulberry Avenue, the 1600 block of Radium Springs Road and the 200 block of Ebony Lane;
-- Entering auto on the 1200 block of Radium Springs Road, the 1900 block of Martin Luther King Jr. Drive and two calls on the 2700 block of Dover Lane;
-- Robbery by sudden snatching on the 200 block of West Roosevelt Avenue;
-- Aggravated assault on the 1400 block of Cromartie Beach Drive;
-- Vandalism of a church on the 1100 block of East Third Avenue;
-- Burglary on the 2100 block of Clark Avenue and the 2700 block of Ledo Road;
-- Disorderly conduct, a fight on the 1900 block of Skylane Drive and 2900 block of Madeline Road;
-- Armed robbery on the 900 block of Corn Avenue;
-- Battery (domestic) on the 1000 block of Dunes Avenue;
-- Domestic (unfounded) on the 1600 block of Edgerly Avenue, the 800 block of West Broad Avenue, the 200 block of Cordele Road, the 400 block of West Tift Avenue, the 1400 block of East Tift Avenue and the 2100 block of South Jackson Street.
DOUGHERTY POLICE: Dougherty County police responded to at least 16 calls, according to police reports.
Police responded to incidents including:
-- Motor vehicle theft/recovery, a car stolen from the side of Liberty Expressway at Antioch Road was found in Ashburn;
-- Identity theft on the 700 block of Brach Road.
DOUGHERTY COUNTY EMS: The Dougherty County Emergency Medical Service responded to 45 calls on Tuesday.
There were 27 medical calls, 14 trauma calls and four other calls. Medical Calls: Three chest pain, two respiratory issues, one faint, one diabetic issue, two seizures, one obstetrics, one mental health calls, five miscellaneous pain calls, one cardiac arrest and 10 various medical; Trauma calls: Five vehicle crash victims, seven falls and two lacerations. Other type calls are typically medical alerts or standby.
ALBANY FIRE DEPARTMENT: The Albany Fire Department responded to eight incidents.
-- Unattended cooking, electric short, structure fire, two false alarms, activated alarm, grass fire and smoke odor in residence.
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NEW CASTLE - Oldham County's path through the Region 8 Tournament leading up to the championship game Tuesday night was easy. The Colonels defeated two opponents by a 29 point average and put up over 70 points in each game. Unfortunately for the Colonels, there was a team waiting to change that trend.
Oldham County never could find it's rhythm against Collins Tuesday night in a 53-42 loss in the Region 8 Final held at Henry County.
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NEW CASTLE – Hayden Hawes led the charge with 23 points and Connor Hicks provided the spark that sets Oldham County up one win away from the Sweet 16 at Rupp Arena.
The Colonels (27-4) took care of Grant County 70-48 Monday night in the Region 8 semifinals at Henry County High School to advance to the regional final against Collins.
NEW CASTLE - North Oldham coach Rob Burton couldn't have asked for a better start from his team to open the Region 8 Tournament versus Owen County. But rather than delivering a victory speech in the locker room after the game, he thanked the Mustangs for what he calls a successful first season complete as coach.
North Oldham couldn't hang on for 32 minutes with the hot-handed Owen County as the Rebels move on to the semifinals with a 67-61 win, ending the Mustangs' season at 16-16.
Oldham County finds itself in a familiar situation heading into its Region 8 Tournament opener against Gallatin County Saturday at noon. Last season, the Colonels took home the District 29 championship entering the regional tournament with momentum, only to fall short in the semifinals to Simon Kenton. If the Colonels (25-4, 13-1 Region 8) want to write a different script for their future this season, they have to focus solely on the present and Gallatin County (9-18, 6-15).
North Oldham's Grace Oglesby dominantly swam her way into the record books once again at the KHSAA State Meet over the weekend. Oglesby set a new state record in the 100 yard butterfly and the 50 yard free to help lead the Mustangs' girls squad to a 4th place finish with 151.5 points.
Oglesby, who claimed her second straight Region 5 championship a few weeks ago, clocked in at 22.92 in the 50 yard free and set a new state record in the 100 yard butterfly at 51.75.
North Oldham senior Seth Junion signs to play soccer at Xavier University in Cincinnati. Junion was the Mustangs' goalkeeper. Pictured front row are mother Cheryl Junion, Seth, and father Steve Junion. Back row is brother, Drew, and sister, Madison.
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Having suffered an embarrassing defeat earlier this month, the North Oldham Lady Mustangs were determined to prove this year's district tournament wasn't a cake walk for top-seeded Trimble County.
Consider the point taken as the Lady Mustangs nearly halved the margin of victory for Trimble County, but still fell 49-32 in the first round of district play.
The score suggested otherwise, but Thursday's game between Shelby County and the Lady Mustangs left much to be desired by both coaching staffs.
The Lady Rockets (23-50, one of the top teams in the 8th Region, easily dispatched North Oldham (14-12) on its home court, 58-31, to assert itself as one of the few teams that could win the region in a few weeks. But while the final score wasn't close, North Oldham coach Dan Pfaff said they are positives for his team to take out of the loss.
The county's three wrestling programs are hoping some final tune-ups will help propel them to better performances at the regional meet.
Both North Oldham and Oldham County's wrestling teams finished fourth in their class at State Duals two weeks ago in Union County. The non-sanctioned KHSAA event takes place two weeks before the state's event in Lexington.
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Inside: Decorative influences from the '30s and '40s--check out the 40-foot Art Deco bar that curves around the room's center--give this spot old-school flair. So do the large, neon, diner-like signs out front. Settle into plush, gangster-style booths or round up your group for a game of pool in the back room. The 4,400 square-foot corner space boasts large windows opening onto the street, plenty of seating, and several flat-screen TVs. Historic photos of Uptown neighborhood haunts and musicians come together in a back-lit montage on a wall near the restrooms.
In addition to a full bar and a small selection of wines by the glass and the bottle, Fat Cat steps up with a, uh, fat selection of beers. PBR, Unibroue Maudite, and a handful of Belgian beers like Delirium Tremens and De Koninck are on tap; you'll also find cans and bottles, from Schlitz to Shiner Bock.
Food: When we've got the munchies at a bar, all we want is some good ol' comfort food. Fat Cat doesn't disappoint, with modern appetizer takes on classics like the corn dog and the Reuben.
We filled up with items from the late-night menu, served from 10 p.m. until midnight: toasted chili, black bean and taco dip with tortilla chips ($6.95); fried mac 'n' cheese bites (choose original or chorizo mac 'n' cheese) with bacon-pepper remoulade and spicy ketchup ($6.95); and the sloppy joe with fries ($8.95). Though Fat Cat's menu claims it's "Light on the Joe, heavy on the sloppy!" we think the meat could have been saucier. The flavor, though, was spot on.
Service: Our waiter was personable and upbeat, and the good vibes didn't end there. Our table near the door afforded us a view of the greaser-chic doorman, who checked IDs while chatting with bargoers--all with a smile on his face!
Crowd: The crowd here reflects the Uptown neighborhood, so expect people mostly in their 30s. That said, we're sure that on some nights, the lineups at the nearby Riviera Theatre and Aragon Ballroom will dictate who pops in for a post-concert cocktail.
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Maple Mousse
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|Maple syrup
|3⁄4 Cup (12 tbs)
|Unflavored gelatin
|Cold water
|3 Tablespoon
|Egg yolks
|3 Large
|Heavy cream
|2 Cup (32 tbs)
|Dark rum
|1⁄2 Ounce
In a heavy bottomed saucepan, over low heat, warm maple syrup.
Meanwhile, in a bowl, dissolve gelatin in cold water.
Let stand 5 minutes.
Dip bottom of bowl in hot water until gelatin has dissolved completely.
While stirring, fold in maple syrup.
Remove from heat.
Set aside.
In a second bowl, whip egg yolks until creamy.
Fold into maple syrup.
Beat until mixture has cooled.
Fold whip cream and ram into maple syrup.
Refrigerate 2 hours or until mousse has set.
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Lufthansa blazed a trail nine years ago with the introduction of its Lufthansa Private Jets (LPJ) service, which the German flag carrier offers in partnership with the world's largest business-aircraft operator, NetJets. "LPJ has grown year-on-year since services began," Lufthansa says, although it remains tight-lipped on passenger, revenue, and flight numbers.
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