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Overrated: Derek Jeter
Underrated: Michael Young
As voted by 370 MLB players. Thoughts?
Overrated: Derek Jeter
Underrated: Michael Young
As voted by 370 MLB players. Thoughts?
Couldn't agree more on Jeter for what he is paid he is #1.GO CINCY!!!!!
Overrated: Johnny Damon
Underrated: Brian Giles
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
It's hard to know exactly what they mean by that...as a not-really-casual baseball fan, I tend to analyze that right away, and they mean over/underrated by whom? Because in my world, there would be very different answers from the broadcasters/casual fan/die-hard fan. Jeter is a perfect example, in a way. Terribly overrated by broadcasters, terribly underrated by stats geeks. in my opinion.
If we're going strictly by payroll, I'd say one of the closers. BJ Ryan comes to mind.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
I don't think Jeter is overrated he's got 4 rings which is more than most of the 370 ballplayers polled. Most guys get to be overrated because they get talked about constantly which for three or four years Jeter was talked alot about. Overpaid yes overrated no.
Overrated Curt Schilling
Underrated Craig Biggio
So he played for some very talented Yankees teams in the late 90s. Why would that mean he couldn't be overrated?Originally Posted by KoryMac5
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
If everyone thinks that a player is underrated, can he still be, by definition, underated? I mean, it seams like everyone knows that he's actually much better than people think. Which, then follows, that he's no longer underrated.
Underrated Reds?
Harang, who last year was one of the best 20 starters in the NL, but got bogged down wit hthe rest of the Reds staff because he didn't get very good run support. If Harang pitches as well as he did last year, he'll get 18+ wins if the Reds give him average (for them) run support.
I felt the same way in the preseason when everyone was tabbing the Brewers as the 'dark horse' team. If everyone was doing it, how could they be the team least expected to do anything?Originally Posted by PuffyPig
Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
Big wow, 4 rings. I don't think that makes a player what he is, even though they say "he'll be judged by how many rings he wins." If that was the case then Barry Bonds would have atleast one (or 10). Griffey AND A-Rod on one team in their prime and ZERO WS appearances. Rings don't make a player. I'm not picking on you KoryMac bc all media heads say that too.
Overrated I think Jeter is by far number one. He has terrible range on ground balls (see the Bible or your current BA magazine). And Tony Womack. Someone traded two semi-prospects for him and then when that guy got fired, the new GM had to cut TW bc he wasn't very good, AT ALL.
Underrated - Michael Young and many Rangers' hitters. Jonny Gomes (starting to get respect).
Oh man, I get emotional when defending Jeter so I probably won't shut up here and I'm sorry. The rings are not the greatest example to use as evidence of his talent, but not ignorable when you consider how important a part of most of those teams he was. To the argument that he came along to the right team at the right time -- well, it's cyclical. That team was in great part what it was because of him. Or at least in small part. Yes, he happened to come along in time for a team that won four championships in five years; had he not come along, though, there's a very good chance that it might not have been a team that won four championships in five years.
Again, though, that's not the greatest example of why he's good. See, to call him overrated -- overrated on what? You use his weakness of range as an example, but I rarely hear people refer to Jeter as a great defensive shortstop (except Tim McCarver). In fact the people I know rag on him so badly as a shortstop that I often find myself pointing out that his range to his left is decent and he tracks flyballs like almost nobody else. He's won one (two?) Gold Gloves now, and that's perhaps undeserved. But the first (only?) one was almost ten years into his career, so it's not as if his defense is perpetually overrated. He is a thoughtful hitter who can be patient and also hit for power, he's an extraordinary baserunner, and he's a tough, durable player whose confidence and drive have a lot to do with the quality of that team. That's not overrated to me. Put it this way: even the people I know who loathe Jeter have all admitted to me at some point that they'd want Jeter on their real-life or fantasy teams.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
Overrated: Nomar (even without all the injuries)
Underrated: Harang's got to be up there. vatican's man Javier V. gets a few votes. But at the present moment, without a doubt it's got to be Contreras--he may be the best starter in baseball over the last 9 months.
I really like the Jeter one, I have a friend and for quite sometime we have been in a never ending debate of Barry Larkin vs. Derek Jeter any takes on that?
I can say this: Barry HoF induction would be an absolute certainty if he had played on the Yankees.Originally Posted by kbrake
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
I took that one up in a thread from last AugustOriginally Posted by kbrake
Someone noted that Jeter has never had to carry a lineup. This was my response:This was an excellent post RB. I was reading through the thread and couldn't believe how many people were quick to write Jeter off as just average. Larkin played for 18 years. In that time, he failed to reach 2,500 hits. Jeter could very well end up with 3,000 hits with a .315 average. I realize that average isn't a very telling stat in the game, but I know this much: a player with 3,000 hits, and a .300 plus average is without a doubt in the conversation as a first ballot HOFer - no matter who he played for.
I think people's perceptions of Jeter aren't biased in two ways. First, he is a Yankee, and Yankees are generally hated (as a Yankees fan I'd know). Second, there seems to be a degree of jealousy towards the attention Jeter has received. In a sense, Larkin should have had the same attention, but never did (as a Reds fan I'd know). In the early part of his career, he was overshadowed by Ozzie Smith. Towards the end of his career, he was overshadowed by guys like Arod, Jeter, and Garciaparra. I would rank Larkin as one of the best shortstops ever. Unfortunately, that perception doesn't resonate outside of Cincinnati as much as it should. I don't think that's Jeter's fault. If you look at this objectively, you'll see two amazing shortstops. At the end of the day, these guys are both players any team would be happy to have for years. Just because you love one doesn't mean you can't respect the other.
Look at the WS team from 1998. Are Bernie Williams and Paul O'Neill HOF players? No one hit above 28 homeruns on that team. The names on that roster aren't exactly giants protecting Jeter. Also, look at his stats from the 2000 WS. His OBP was .480, his SLG was .864. I would call that carrying a lineup. If you need regular season, have a look at '99.
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
In the winter I did a Barry Larkin vs. every other great shortstop comparison, including Derek Jeter, in an effort to gauge where Larkin ranks among the game's greatest shortstops and how he should/may get treated by the BBWAA writers when his name shows up on Hall ballots.Originally Posted by kbrake
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42221 (wayyy too long of a post to copy/paste here)
IMO, Larkin is historically one of the most underrated players ever. Interestingly enough, another great shortstop, Arky Vaughan, is also one of the most underrated players ever.
As far as current overrated and underrated ... Brian Giles is way up there, and he's already been mentioned. Bobby Abreu is another guy that's highly underrated. Since Jeter's already been mentioned as an overrated candidate, I'll toss up Darin Erstad. He's had one great season, two decent seasons and six well below average seasons, including each of his last five seasons.
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OAKLAND, Calif. — Football on Sundays has become an aerial show. Knowing that Tim Tebow is not a conventional Sunday quarterback, the Broncos' coaching staff came up with an innovative idea against the Oakland Raiders: They brought football back to Saturdays.
Using a read-option running attack that hasn't been seen in the NFL since . . . since . . . since when? Since before helmets had face masks? Anyway, the Broncos defeated the Oakland Raiders 38-24 at O.co Coliseum on Sunday in an AFC West game that was widely characterized as an upset.
But the surprise was on the edge of the Raiders' defensive front that kept crashing inside as Tebow kept the ball around end. With Tebow either keeping the ball or handing off to Willis McGahee — he had the option to choose which one — the Broncos amassed 299 yards rushing. In the Broncos' best running game since the year 2000, Tebow, the quarterback, had 118 yards rushing, and McGahee, the running back, had 163.
That's 281 yards rushing between them. Just two months ago, the Broncos B.T. — Before Tebow — had 38 yards rushing in a season-opening loss to the Raiders in Denver.
The last time Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer, who has been in the NFL since he was the No. 1 draft pick in 2003, had seen a read-option offense?
"I think it was college," he said.
Sometimes, innovation is having the guts to do what already has been done. Let the rest of the NFL carry on with its Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady and the Manning brothers.
Tebow's skills, it's been argued, are for another day. In his three starts this season, the Broncos are averaging an incredible 223.7 yards rushing.
Tebow's skills, it's been argued, are for another day. He is arguably the greatest Saturday quarterback who ever played. While operating the read- option, spread offense at the University of Florida, Tebow was the first sophomore to win a Heisman Trophy, and he nearly won it two more times. He was part of two national championship teams.
Turns out, what's old to college ball is new to the NFL.
"That's hard to defend," said Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey, who picked a good time for his first two interceptions of the season. "Especially when you have a quarterback who's as explosive as Tebow is. Tebow doesn't get enough credit for his explosiveness. I know he would love to sharpen up his passing, but at the same time he's running the ball extremely well."
Come to think of it, the pass-heavy Sunday league does get a little monotonous, don't you think? Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy did. So on several plays, McCoy designed plays that gave Tebow the option: From the shotgun, the lefty quarterback could hand off to McGahee or keep it himself and run around end.
"There were a couple of times when I was supposed to give it to him," Tebow said, as he finished putting on his tie in front of his locker. "But I thought I could beat the guy around end, so I kept it."
Holy J.C. Watts, Dee Dowis and Tommie Frazier. Tebow's dual-threat game complemented McGahee, who is less than two weeks removed from surgery to repair a broken right hand. McGahee had a touchdown run of 60 yards, which occurred on the last play of the third quarter and tied the game 24-24. He also ran 24 yards for a touchdown just before the two-minute warning that capped the win.
Tebow and McGahee became the Broncos' first quarterback-running back combination to each rush for 100 yards in the same game since Norris Weese and Otis Armstrong pulled off the feat on Dec. 12, 1976.
"It's a tribute to our coaches," Broncos coach John Fox said of the throwback-to-Saturday offense. "We've definitely made adjustments. We've been in the process of adjusting for the last three weeks (since Tebow replaced Kyle Orton as the starting quarterback). It's a different style, but it can be effective."
Tebow not only ran the Raiders silly around end, he threw touchdown passes of 27 yards to Eric Decker and 26 yards to Eddie Royal.
Through the suffocating Orton-Tebow debate, through the "Tebow is a winner"/"Tebow can't play" discussion, through losses of 26 points on the road (to Green Bay) and 35 points at home (last week to Detroit), the Broncos have reached the halfway point of the 2011 season in an improbable position: One game out of the AFC West lead.
The San Diego Chargers, Kansas City Chiefs and Raiders, all of whom lost at home Sunday, are 4-4. The Tebow-led Broncos are 3-5. The AFC West race has become a neck-and-neck crawl.
"That's the definition of the NFL," Fox said. "That's just the way it works in this league, and that's not going to change. There's a lot of interest in this league, no doubt, and a lot of fans are a big part of that interest. They pay good money to come, and they want to see us win."
Let Andrew Luck worry about playing for the college national championship. The Broncos will start the second half of their season Sunday at Kansas City knowing no one but Tebow will be leading their team.
Asked if he is ready to commit to Tebow as his starting quarterback next week at Kansas City, Fox this time did not have to use the old, "need to first take a shower and watch film" excuse.
"Yes, I can," he said.
For the first time in his NFL career, Tebow was challenged with keeping his starting job. That he responded with a solid, sometimes brilliant performance didn't surprise anyone who knows him well.
"Honestly, I put that pressure on myself more than anybody else," Tebow said. "To try to improve and ultimately get a victory no matter how it looks. That was a special one."
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If you shoot in servo focus mode, that is, if you ever are dialed in here to AI Servo, or AI Focus, which might drop into servo mode; in either of those cases, you might want to tweak the way that servo focus is working. If you think about it, moving objects can move in different ways. They might be moving in a particular direction; predominantly horizontally, or vertically. They might move with different speeds. They might start, and stop. To that end, the first page of the autofocus tab gives you different cases of autofocus tracking; of servo tracking.
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Case 2 says it will continue to track subjects, ignoring possible obstacles. So if you've got something that's moving behind, like, a telephone pole, or another moving object, it will continue to track your original subject. Case 3 claims to instantly focus on subjects suddenly entering autofocus points. So this means, if you're tracking one object at a certain distance, and another object comes into frame, and actually by frame, I mean comes over any of your autofocus points, it will switch to that object.
Maybe you're shooting a foot race, and you're tracking someone who is in the lead, and someone suddenly overtakes them, runs into your field of view, and overtakes them, it would start tracking that person. Case 4 is for subjects that accelerate or decelerate quickly, and they're kind of showing a soccer player here, which might not be a bad example of what that is. Case 5, for erratic subjects moving quickly in any direction, and they're showing you either someone who's an ice skater, or is slipping on a banana peel; I can't really tell. Either of those is going to be someone quickly moving in any direction.
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I can also press the Rate button to get to my Detail settings. So if I press Rate, now these things become editable. Tracking sensitivity is basically controlling how sensitive the camera is to the subject moving from one point to another. Acceleration/deceleration tracking controls sensitivity for a subject who's suddenly changing speed, and Autofocus point switching sets a sensitivity to a subject that's moving fast enough that they're suddenly going from one point to another.
Now, when you're working with these, notice that the scales aren't normalized the same way. In this case, zeroes are in the middle, and you can have less or more. Here I can't have less; I can only have more. There are detailed descriptions of these parameters starting on page 90 of your manual, and if you're really going to go in and mess with the stuff, you're going to want to read those pages in great detail. I'm going to make sure these are set to the default right now by hitting the trashcan button, and get out of here, because I don't actually want to change any of those. One important thing to know about servo tracking, and about the Mark III's autofocus system in general, is that those 61 points are not all equal.
Some can measure focus only vertically, some measure horizontally, some measure on multiple axes. You can see a diagram of that on page 78. It's a complex diagram, and to be honest, you don't really need to know this stuff. If you're really going to go in and maniacally tweak one of these autofocus cases, then understanding the points may make a little bit of difference, but probably not. The other thing to know is that different Canon lenses use different numbers of focus points. Not all Canon lenses can use all 61 focus points, and you can see which lenses use which focus points starting on page 79.
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Is it possible to get the stack trace information in Visual Basic 6.0. I mean I want to find out the function name and exact line that causes the error similar to .NET stack trace. I have created an ActiveX DLL which works fine in my test environment but it throws an error in production environment(error : 91-Object variable or With block variable not set). Any help on this much appreciated.
This is a good way to do it - an answer on the existing duplicate question. Use MZTools to insert the error handlers automatically
Alternatively, you can debug your built DLL in the production environment using WinDBG, a free standalone debugger from Microsoft. Compile your DLL into native code with symbols (create PDB files).
Here's a 2006 blog post by a Microsoft guy about using Windbg with VB6, and 2004 blog post by another Microsoft guy with a brief introduction to Windbg.
The only option is to do it manually, with VB6's error handling.
My preferred method for doing this is HuntERR ; it's under a permissive license so can be used with impunity in any project.
This is an excellent static library for VB6 that permits full stack traces with as much information as you care to include.
It benefits tremendously from having some automation in your IDE to insert the error handlers and line numbers.
The archive as linked has a number of extras that I am not familiar with, including what seems to be a VB6 IDE addin - I shall be adding this to my collection of VB6 kit.
This library can literally take you from going "HUH?" to having a stack trace with full line numbering, it gives VB6 an professional level of error handling when used correctly.
VB6 doesn't seem to have a decent way to do that natively.
It's a bit cumbersome, but you could put together a custom solution that adds lines to a text file whenever you want it to. Put together a method somewhere that looks like this:
and then manually call it from your own functions
It doesn't solve the problem, but it might help you narrow it down.
With regards to your specific error, I would go through and check situations where you're assigning an object to a variable - I find that it's easy to forget the
You may not be able to get at that in VB6. previous question.


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Why do technologically efficacious and economically feasible ideas fail? Answers to this question are important to firms and policy makers across industries. Jeroen Struben's research aims to understand factors and their interactions that contribute to the formation selfsustaining markets for complex product categories. Jeroen is particularly interested in phenomena that represent arenas for contested change efforts towards sustainable lifestyles and studies alternative energy and nutritional food markets. In researching alternative fuel vehicle market formation, for example, he considers the coevolution of consumer behavior, product category legitimacy, vehicle technology, infrastructure and institutions. He examines how relevant actors (from industries, governments, and other non-market sectors) coordinate to overcome market formation thresholds. Jeroen uses multiple methods including case studies of successful and failed diffusion, empirical parameter estimation, theory building, and dynamic modeling and other systems science-based based analyses.
Jeroen is Fellow of the Marcel Desautels Institute for Integrated Management (MDIIM), McGill University, as well as a key member of the McGill Centre for the Convergence of Health and Economics (MCCHE). Jeroen is also a Research Affiliate at the MIT Sloan School of management where he leads, jointly with John Sterman and David Keith, the project on transitions to low carbon transportation.
Through his research Jeroen has worked with organizations across a variety of sectors ranging from automotive (Ford, GM, SAIC Shanghai), to energy (Shell, National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US DOE, Johnson Controls China), public health (PHAC), and to fisheries (NOAA, GCDC). Prior to academia Jeroen worked at Accenture, where he consulted to various industries, including semiconductors, energy, telecom, retail, and steel.
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Jeroen has developed the course systems thinking and sustainability (MSUS 402) as a hands-on course on systems thinking, with real world applications. Besides covering principles of systems thinking and system dynamics, the course will offer tools and approaches to recognize, understand and solve dynamically complex organizational problems. Applications will emphasize sustainability-related challenges.
In his teaching Jeroen aims to develop students' critical thinking skills and to empower students to effectively identify, diagnose, and solve problems important to society. His classes balance theory with application. In addition Jeroen strives for integrating research and teaching in his classrooms. He is also committed to increasing undergraduate engagement in research through independent study projecs. Jeroen has developed and taught a variety of courses and workshops for undergraduate and graduate students, and for executives on innovation and systems science. Jeroen has also taught the core undergraduate courses International Business (MGCR 382) and Operations Management (MGCR 472), as well as Simulation for Management Systems (MGSC 578).
Jeroen was the recipient of the 2011 Desautels Faculty of Management Distinguished Teaching Award for graduate teaching.
- market formation
- collective action
- product category emergence
- systems science; system dynamics; computational modeling
- alternative fuel vehicle & low carbon transportation markets
- nutritious food markets
- path dependency; co-evolution
Atefeh Ramezankhani (McGill University)
Derek Chan (McGill University)
Karin Strzeletz Ivertsen (Copenhagen Business School, March 2014)
David Keith (Massachusetts Insitute of Technology, August 2012) Now Assistant Professor at MIT Sloan School of Management
Papers in Peer-Reviewed Journals
Struben, Jeroen, Laurette Dubé and Derek Chan (2014). "Policy Insights from the Nutritional Food Market Transformation Model: The Case of Obesity Prevention Dynamics". New York Academy of Science Annals. (forthcoming). Early view
Dubé, Laurette, Srivardhini Jha, Aida Faber, Jeroen Struben, Archisman Mohapatra, Nick Drager, Chris Lannon, P.K. Joshi, and John McDermott (2014). "Convergent innovation for sustainable economic growth and affordable universal healthcare: Innovating the way we innovate". New York Academy of Science Annals. (forthcoming)
Garland, Jennifer, Ruthanne Huising, and Jeroen Struben (2013), "What if Technology Worked in Harmony with Nature: Imagining Climate Change through Prius Advertisements" Organization 20(5): 679-704. abstract/paper
Struben, Jeroen and Sterman, John (2008). "Transition Challenges for Alternative Fuel Vehicle and Transportation Systems". Environment and Planning B.35(6) 1070-1097. abstract/paper
Otto, Peter and Jeroen Struben (2004). "Gloucester Fishery: Insights from a Group Modeling Intervention." System Dynamics Review20(4): 287-312. abstract/paper
Nazarov, Yuli and Jeroen Struben (1996). "Universal Excess Noise in Resonant Tunneling via Strongly Localized States." Physical Review B 53(23): 15466-15468 abstract/paper
Chapters in Books
Struben, Jeroen, John Sterman, and David Keith, (2014) "Parameter and Confidence Interval Estimation in Dynamic Models: Maximum Likelihood and Bootstrapping Methods" In: Oliva, R., N. Osgood, and H. Rahmandad (Eds) Dynamic Modeling Analytical Handbook, MIT Press, Cambridge MA (Forthcoming, Winter 2015) http://www.sdl.ise.vt.edu/analytical_methods_for_dynamic_modelers.html
Etzion, Dror and Jeroen Struben (2014) "Better Place: Shifting Paradigms in the Automotive Industry" in: Pirson, M., (Ed) Case Studies in Social Entrepreneurship, The Oikos Collection V4, (Forthcoming, October 2014)
2011: Desautels Faculty of Management Distinguished Teaching Award, graduate level
2011: First Prize oikos Global Case Writing Competition, Social Entrepreneurship Track
2008: Best Paper Award – Nominee, 25th DRUID Conference on Entrepreneurship and Innovation
2006: Dana Meadows Student Prize - Honorable Mention, System Dynamics Society
2004: Dana Meadows Student Prize - Honorable Mention, System Dynamics Society
2013: Liber Ero Fellowship in Science Communication and Policy Engagement, McGill School of
2013-2015: Faculty Fellowship, Marcel Desautels Institute for Integrated Management
2014-2018: Fonds de recherche du Québec - Société et Culture (FRQSC) Team grant. Role: Co-Applicant, Équipe de recherche interdisciplinaire sur la gestion de l'interface santé-affaires. Title: Comportement du consommateur et dynamique de production, distribution et compétition en alimentation: Équilibrer la santé, le plaisir, et les affaires à court et long Terme
2014-2018: Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC) Insight Grant. Role: Co-Applicant, Paths of convergence for agriculture, health and wealth: Foundational work for a trans-disciplinary Whole-of-Society paradigm in food and nutrition context
2014-2017: Ministère de l'Agriculture, des Pêcheries et de l'Alimentaire du Québec, (MAPAQ), Innov'Action Agroalimentaire. Role: Co-PI, A management flight simulator tool to improve economic performance of nutrition-sensitive food innovation and enabling policy environment
2014-2017: Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council (SSHRC) Team Grant. Role: Co-Applicant, A Convergent Innovation Coalition for Sustainable Prosperity: Development Work for Agri-Food Systems
2012-2015: Fonds de recherche du Québec - Société et culture (FQRSC), Market Formation through Coevolution of Organizational Capabilities and the Social Context: Nutritious Food in Québec,
2011-2012: McGill University, Internal Social Sciences and Humanities Development Grant, "Alternative Fuel Vehicle Market Emergence: Examining the Coordination of Heterogeneous Contributions
2010-2011: PHAC Grant, team-lead, Healthy Living Market Transformation: Industry Self- Regulation Dynamics of Low Nutrition High Motivational Food
2008-2009: Ford Motor Company, Co-PI, research on alternative fuel vehicles transitions
2006-2010: Shell Hydrogen, Co-PI, research on alternative fuel vehicles transition dynamics
2001-2002: DuPont Presidential Fellow
On challenges for and need for collaborative approaches towards nutritious food market formations (Globe and Mail, June 4 2014)
On achieving sustainable transportation - changing Canada's largest emission sector (McGill at work / McGill au travail, Video in English/French, April 2013,)
On enabling market transitions for alternative fuel vehicles (MIT News Office, MIT Energy Initiative, Science daily, New Scientist, May/June 2007)
Published Management Flight Simulators
Struben, J. (October 2014) Behavioural Infectious Disease Simulator: The 2014 Ebola Outbreak.
Jeroen has currently 3 major research projects:
1. Market Formation and Category Emergence
In a project on market formation and collective action (with Brandon Lee) we examine questions regarding theories of market formation. We seek to understand conditions for existence for collective action thresholds and how different forms of governance may resolve these market formation challenes. We develop theoretical and computational models to examine this (see for example this working paper).
In a related project on product category coeveolution I explore how differences in relatedness between existing and new product categories affect their coevolution and eventual market formation outcomes. This project highlights the important role of hybrid product categories in market transformation.
2. Transitions towards Low Carbon Transportation Markets (With John Sterman and David Keith)
To explain spatio-temporal patterns of product diffusion we examine the role of local and long distance social exposure, local fixed effects, policies and their interactions. For this analysis we have built a dataset comprising 10-year US zipcode-level hybrid electric and other vehicle adoption. Using the same data set I also explore questions regarding consumer decision models and over-time category formation and evolution from the consumer point of view.
We have also created, and further developed, several behavioural dynamic models to understand the challenges of and integrated strategies for contemporary alternative fuel vehicle (AFV) market formation, including competition and coeveolution between multiple alternatives (see this paper). Besides contributing to understanding of industry transitions, this work offers strategic guidance to decision makers in organizations and public sectors (see this example). This project also involves development of a real-time AFV management flight simulator that can be used in classrooms or in workshops with experts.
3. Transitions towards higher nutritional quality food markets (With Derek Chan and Laurette Dubé)
In this project we examine how over-time interactions between food value chains, demand, and government interventions affect the transformation of nutritious food portfolios in markets. We have developed a behavioural dynamic model, currently applied to Canadian context, that we use to explore questions of competitive and collaborative strategies and food innovation at the larger-scale market as well as at the community level.


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Changing the hostname in those two files did not help. Still not grub. Still no boot. Ubuntu 10.10 works though...
Changing the hostname in those two files did not help. Still not grub. Still no boot. Ubuntu 10.10 works though...
Is it a video issue? With only one system you do not get grub menu, so grub has loaded and starts booting, but then video mode or some other boot parameter is required.
How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2
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It is not a video issue. when I try to boot, instead of grub or any kind of splash there is a black screen with a flashing dash in the corner.
Sounds like old fred is on the right track, if machine A boots fine with both a&b
drives but neither in machine B, it is most likely a hardware issue causing the problem
try going into bios in machine b...shut down the eth/wireless card and see if it boots.
if not, swap out the video card from machine a to machine b and see if that works.
it may also be some jumper setting difference between the two, look closely at
everything between the 2 machines for any wire or possible jumper difference, as
always, once solved, it will be something simple.
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Thank you Dribble Team for inviting me!
This is my first shot, which is a simple animation showing how the menu works in my Seattle walking tour app that I've been working on. The tour guide character, inspired from a water drop representing the rain city, displays the menu to you as you tap him in the bottom of the screen.
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Shares of Hertz Global Holdings Hertz Global Holdings opened down close to 13% Wednesday near $27.50. Just one day earlier the car rental company hit a 52-week high of $31.61.
The plunge comes after the company said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Tuesday night that it expects full year earnings to come in "well below the low end of its 2014 guidance."
Hertz — the parent company of Hertz, Dollar, Thrifty and Firefly car rental brands – said its guidance withdrawal is the result of "operational challenges in the rental car and equipment segments" in addition to costs related to its accounting review.
Among the challenges Hertz listed was record vehicle recalls. The company wrote in the filing, "The Company exited the first quarter of 2014 already tight fleeted, with March efficiency levels at approximately 81%. In April, recall activity stepped up substantially. Then, in June, the Company experienced a rapid, substantial increase in contracted bookings, further widening the gap between supply and demand. U.S. rental car fleet efficiency was approximately 79% in the second quarter."
So far this year General Motors General Motors has recalled close to 30 million vehicles, sending that stock down more than 15% year-to-date. GM also slipped into the red opening near $34.40. Shares of competitor Avis Budget Group Avis Budget Group were down about 2.7% to about $66.90.
In the fourth quarter 2013 earnings report Hertz released in March the company forecast revenue between $11.4 billion and $11.7 billion, with adjusted earnings per share between $1.70 and $2.00. Earlier this month the company informed the SEC that it would not be able to file its first quarter 2014 report on time due to its previously announced review of internal financial records for fiscal 2011, 2012 and 2013.


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These links as well as many others have been added to the MLB Fan Sites link section within this website. Please check out this section, try some of the links, and give the sites a vote.
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www.soxprospects.com (messageboard)
Both are obviously Red Sox sites, the second one having inside info on occasion.
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Sox fan input on Sox sites...
WSI (www.whitesoxinteractive.com) and Sox Talk (www.soxtalk.com/forums) are the 2 big kids on the block. I post in both, but much prefer Sox Talk. The conversations are generally (but not always) more intelligent, and the posters are more knowledgeable. WSI is a little more homer, and little less knowledgeable, but probably more mainstream.
For the record, I know Sox Talk has a number of Tiger fans posting with some regularity, along with a few other teams' fans (mostly other ALC teams, but others as well). They will allow that, though I think the "line" may be a little tighter for them than other fans, which i suspect is true here too. WSI, I am not sure if there are any Tiger fans posting.
There is also a 3rd site, www.southsidesox.com, which gets a fair amount of traffic. I don't post there, and wasn't overly impressed.
So in short, if what you are looking for is to make fun of the silly fans, then WSI has the market. If you want more informed (though admitedly sometimes more obnoxious) discussion, go with Sox Talk.Yes, I am a Sox fan.
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I think WSI is the site that you get banned pretty quickly from if you do anything that could be construed as rooting for an opposing team.
I actually like SoxTalk.com better than WSI.
People are much nicer and friendlier. They just talk baseball while WSI, it's about hating everyone and you got a 125-year old female poster who acts like a 12 year old over there. You got a guy who got banned in Hangar just because he is obessed with the Cubs and how Chicago newspapers cover his baseball team. I think it's sad when a female poster acts like a fool over there yet so beloved while Hangar gets banned. That's all you need to know at WSI. People are so paranoid over at that board.
Soxtalk.com is the place to go. At least, they respect other teams and just talk baseball instead of acting like they have inferority complex. You would think winning a WS championship would end bitterness, but there are way too many MarySwiss like characters out there.
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Honestly Timberwolf, if you posted things here about the Tigers like you did about the Whitesox on WSI, you'd be banned here too. Their rules really aren't that strict.
About Hangar....Hangar only got like a week ban. He chose not to come back, because if he can't talk about the Cubs, he really doesn't have anything to talk about. And most White Sox fans are sick of people like him, who are more concerned with the Cubs, being lumped in with the intelligent lot. It makes us look bad.
08-11-2006, 03:16 PM #52Originally Posted by munchman33
I assume you are a WSI'er?
Well, I agree with him really. I am a member of both sites. I have been warned to stop Tiger Trolling at WSI, and since have stopped posting when I did not do anything wrong. On Sox Talk, I say about the same things, and the fans think I am just a classy Tigers fan. Sox talk is a very intelligent site. And, swearing is not aloud as much as you say it is at Sox Talk. They have tightened up the rules a bit.VT
2014 AAT - Hernan Perez
WSI has been pretty cool with me. You just have to be completely objective and not get trapped into discussing things you think are either wrong or that you disagree with. It's a site for Sox fans and if someone wants to say that Crede is a better defender than Inge or that they'd rather have AJ than Pudge (or gets upset that you even call him Pudge) then you just have to let it go..
08-11-2006, 06:12 PM #54MotownSports Fan
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why dont you just stick to motownsports and talk tigers.
10-06-2006, 08:59 PM #56MotownSports Fan
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I'd like to submit http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo to the Mets section.
Currently the longest running Mets board on the net. Was originally Metsonline.net before getting shut down, temporarily, by MLB. Great place to talk baseball or just get a laugh because the inmates basically run the asylum.
Also, go Tigers! Beat the bloody pulp out of those Yankee arsehats.
10-12-2006, 01:46 PM #57MotownSports Fan
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I've been collecting sites for a while now, and fwiw, this is what I have. There is some overlap, but there are some extras that you all might be interested in.
Red Sox - http://www.redsoxnation.net
Red Sox - http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net (closed membership; you can register to lurk)
Yankees - http://www.nyyfans.com
Blue Jays - http://www.bluejayway.ca/
Devil Rays - http://www.raysbaseball.com/
Orioles - http://www.orioleshangout.com
AL Central
Chicago White Sox - http://www.soxtalk.com
Chicago White Sox - http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/v...n/index.php?s=
Chicago White Sox - http://www.southsiders.net/
Indians - http://www.tribewatch.com
Indians - http://forums.tribe-talk.com/
Royals - http://www.royalboard.com
Tigers - http://www.motowntigers.com
Tigers - http://www.tigerscentral.com
Twins - http://www.twinsgeek.com
Twins - http://www.twinkietown.com/
AL West
Angels - http://www.angelsbaseball.us/
Angels - http://www.angelsfanforum.com/forum/
Angels - http://www.underthehalo.invisionzone.com/
A's - http://www.oakball.net
As - http://www.athleticsnation.com
Mariners - http://www.insidethepark.com
Mariners - http://ussmariner.com/
Rangers - http://www.rangerfans.com/
NL East
Braves - http://www.bravescenter.com
Braves - http://www.bravesbeat.com
Marlins - http://www.marlinbaseball.com
Mets - http://www.amazinz.com/
- http://www.nysportsday.com/themofo/
- http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/index.php
Nationals - http://www.natsfanatics.com/
Nationals - http://www.ballparkguys.com/cgi-bin/...ubb=forum;f=41
Nationals - http://www.nationalspride.com/forums/index.cfm
Phillies - http://www.philaphans.com
Phillies - http://www.philliesphans.com/phorum/
NL Central
Astros - http://www.astrosdaily.com/
Astros - http://www.orangewhoopass.com
Astros - http://www.astroszone.com/forums/
Brewers - http://www.brewerfan.net
Brewers - http://p092.ezboard.com/bbrewersfandemonium
Cardinals - http://www.cardsclubhouse.com
Cardinals - http://www.birdsonthebat.org/
Cubs - http://www.insidetheivy.com
Cubs - http://www.northsidebaseball.com
Pirates - http://www.onlybucs.net
Pirates - http://www.pittsburghsports.net/
Reds - http://www.redszone.com
NL West
Diamondbacks - http://www.dbackfans.com/
Diamondbacks - http://www.diamondbacksbullpen.com/phpBB2/
Dodgers - http://www.dodgerblues.com/
Giants - http://pub15.ezboard.com/bgiantsvirtualforum
Giants - http://giantsdugout.net/index.php
Padres - http://www.madfriars.com
Padres - http://forum.signonsandiego.com/uplo...splay.php?f=10
Rockies - http://www.roxhead.com/
General Baseball
MLB Center
Baseball Think Factory.
Thanks for the links hildy."Nothing great in the world has ever been accomplished without passion."--Clint Eastwood
2015 Adopt A Tiger: Austin Kubitza, RHP
10-15-2006, 04:52 PM #59MotownSports Fan
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If you want a thinking-person's site that welcomes fans of their opponents, check out www.birdsinthebelfry.com, a site for Orioles fans. The number of posters is small but the signal to noise ratio on the message board is very high, something not often seen on fan websites.
10-20-2006, 11:59 AM #60Banned
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for those looking for the best damn forum running go to VIVA EL BIRDOS its a classy site with classy fans we welcome any who wish to drop in thank god the mets were sent packing they were the rudest meanes name calling sore losers oi ever saw!!! but im sure we wont see that with the tiger fans by the way i sure wish we never would of traded placido (?) away!!!anyway enjoy the site if ya want we welcome intellegent baseball banter
My friend, Zoso Karl, who got banned at WSI, have decided to create a White Sox board.
It's called www.soxandthecity.net
It's a pretty good board. I love the designs and all.
I hope that board eventually beats WSI.
Last edited by Timberwolf; 05-16-2007 at 12:04 AM."Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I don't even care if it makes me look like sour grapes. Screw them and their fans who are reading this and gloating." -- GoGoCrede on Twins fans.
05-15-2007, 11:53 PM #62MotownSports Fan
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Thanks T-wolf. Yeah, basically the story with WSI is no dissenting opinions are allowed period. That doesn't just go for outside fans, but long time posters and dedicated White Sox fans can get banned just for being generally negative about things even when it's warranted. That's their deal though. Their loss. I guess they don't realize that a message board is nothing without the people who, you know, post on it...zoso
Bert: That board that zoso was run in February."Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I don't even care if it makes me look like sour grapes. Screw them and their fans who are reading this and gloating." -- GoGoCrede on Twins fans.
"Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I don't even care if it makes me look like sour grapes. Screw them and their fans who are reading this and gloating." -- GoGoCrede on Twins fans.
05-16-2007, 12:09 AM #66"Nothing great in the world has ever been accomplished without passion."--Clint Eastwood
2015 Adopt A Tiger: Austin Kubitza, RHP
I am happy for him. To be honest though, I just discovered it by him tonight.
Message boards are so fun. You get to know people. You get to share happiness and misery with sports. That's one of the reasons why I love it here. It's fun to read people's emotions and reactions. Detroit sports fans are very hardcore. They are one of the best in the country which is why I am not surprised that this board has taken off."Thank you. My thoughts exactly. I don't even care if it makes me look like sour grapes. Screw them and their fans who are reading this and gloating." -- GoGoCrede on Twins fans.
I thought the object of supporting your team is to spend more time concentrating on your own mob, and less on mindless spitting. There's banter, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, even on public forums.
Last edited by DeTig Spartan; 05-30-2007 at 10:47 AM. Reason: Change wording"Armageddon is not around the corner. This is only what the people of violence want us to believe. The complexity and diversity of the world is the hope for the future." - Michael Palin
Umm, you might want to edit your post a bitMTS Usual Suspects: banded together, mocking those who dare disagree with our way of thinking.
ignorance = ignore list
Last edited by DeTig Spartan; 05-30-2007 at 10:48 AM."Armageddon is not around the corner. This is only what the people of violence want us to believe. The complexity and diversity of the world is the hope for the future." - Michael Palin
Bluejayway.ca has now essentially become www.okbluejays.comA great rival until realignment
And this one http://www.bluejayfever.com/
to keep track of Mikey...he technically might end up a Lugnut pitcher...LOL"I'm disabled"- Roy
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Here is a fairly NEW fan website forum for the Tampa Bay Rays...
The Rays RepublicVISIT MY NEW BLOG!!! http://the-villages-watch.blogspot.com/
Does anyone know of the best SF Giants forum out there? I have checked the one listed many times in the past but I see they have just 5-10 people online at a time. Or is it that I'm so used to the greatness of the site that I shouldn't expect huge numbers elsewhere? Any help is much appreciated.Retired. Thanks for the entertainment.
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Detroit rules


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I cried this week…
Cindy sent a note early Wednesday, 17 September 2014 that Pastor Bob Wilson died that morning. I sat on the bench on our front porch in Guatemala. I thought of some of the conversations with this dear brother in the LORD. I remembered some of his teachings, stories and sermons. I remember Juanita his wife, Robin his daughter, there are other children but I did not know them – praying for them as I remember. I wish all of you could have been in my church the day that both Bob and Juanita shared the testimony of their salvation. It was a proper balance of who they once were and glorifying Jesus our Redeemer. So many testimonies are 20 minutes of who I was and a two minute oh by the way Jesus died for me… not Bob and Juanita. Jesus is the star of the show in the Wilson memoirs.
I complained once to Bob about being stressed about job, every other day on call, often 12 hours days, trying to build the ministry MedEquip Missions and balancing family in that formula. Bob gave Godly advice for a life once again out of control. Self control is a fruit of the spirit he explained, but the thing I remember most is his acronym for BUSY: Being Under Satan's Yoke. It helped trigger the move into missions full time for the McCutcheon family.
Cindy and I reject the term sacrifice as a descriptive of mission work. Don't get me wrong, it is difficult at times but for the most part there is a peace of knowing that this is what God has called us to. Then to compare what we do with the true sacrifice Christ made for us is offensive frankly. The only thing that comes close to smelling like sacrifice is missing family, not being here for the parting of friends – things that are deeply relational. I have missed David Barger and William Mayhew's funerals. Those hurt a bit. Men who had been put in my path to teach me things that God would have a son learn, were called home and I could not be here. Not this time. I came to western NC to be part of this home going. Now mixed in that is a chance to see my wife, children, and grandchildren a blessing to be sure.
Romans ch 12 came to mind. This chapter is a rich chapter in Paul's writings. After encouraging believers to be transformed the thirteenth apostle starts to teach what transformation looks like. Here is what pops off the page. Verse 15 says, "Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep." End extremes it seems, in the same verse, the same sentence, so close together. In my TODAY, we went to a wonderful church service. I listened to a powerful message about clay in the Potter's Hands. Prayed with my wife at the front of our home church and then home to eat pot roast, potatoes, green beans with Jason and Hadley, Peggy, Cindy and my granddaughters. Olivia (grandchild #1) is so mature, we talked for awhile. Her little sister, however, not yet two years old, is still not comfortable with a grandad she cannot remember seeing. So slowly I approach, retreat, approach again with a different tactic, ICE CREAM and she finally comes to my lap, empties my shirt pocket of pens and iPhone. SCORE! Sarah on granddad's lap punching buttons and putting sticky ice cream finger prints on the screen. I will clean my cell phone next month right now I rejoice… then two hours later I weep with a dear family that has lost husband, father, grandfather, uncle. But it is not weeping like the world weeps. There is the hope of resurrection in the conversation. There are words of joy and peace in the midst of the grief. Rejoice and weep are intentionally, buy an act of the Holy Spirit's inspiration touching each other in Romans 12:15. This is life in verse.
Sigh, some reading this feel guilty to rejoice in one moment and weep in another. It is an issue of obedience. I can rejoice in my granddaughter's presence, and should do so. In these relationships will come the opportunity to disciple young minds and hearts. Sarah on my lap, Olivia engaged in conversation – are blessings from my God. Encouraging my son and daughter in grace are part of the priesthood of fathering. Equally obedient is leaving the house and going to Groce Chapel and meet the Wilson family and talk and share with family. Cry when Cindy and I hug Juanita's neck, see her beautiful smile in the midst of this sea of family and friends. This is more than respect, my brother deserves respect. But it is love. Christ loving through us. It is obedience. One more thing jumps off the page today…
God is a God of action. He commands His kids (believers) to act, but notice He keeps some things for Himself. Rejoice/weep is ours to do in the midst of the fellowship of saints here and now on this earth. No where are we to hold back or give it to God to do. But notice in Romans 12:19 Paul says, "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. " In our work in Guatemala violence and sexual abuse of women and children seems rampant and justice is minimal. One estimate I read, is that 10% of guilty parties are ever arrested and of those 10% are convicted. Vigilante justice is an under current in rural settings. You can imagine why. I say that to highlight God keeps some of His work, vengeance in this case, to Himself. There is a principal here. God has work for us to do. Be obedient in that work. God has a work for God to do. Be watchful. Don't give back to God the labor He asks of us. Don't take up that which He keeps to Himself.
Bob Wilson is a brother in the LORD. Those of you who know him intimately will see irony in Bob talking to me about being busy… (for those of you that don't know, Bob was often referred to as the Every Ready Bunny managing our feeding program, preaching on Wednesdays, working with a children's program/summer camps, Christmas gift giving, on the board of our church and youth ministry above, constantly discipling, encouraging, of which Cindy and I are benefactors). I know Bob and Juanita are faithful in praying for our work in Guatemala and I will miss him. I WILL see him again. I will be looking at the back of his head since he is now closer to the Throne of the Holy One of Israel.
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon
We are blessed…
We are blessed in too many ways to count. As some of you know Cindy has returned to a job in the USA. I remain in Guatemala to handle the ministry of Vine International. It is not the most pleasant of situations, but we believe it is what needs to be done. Not knowing the future we desire to have our debt retired. We have reduced our living expenses to less than half what they first were when we moved to Guatemala. Many people in the USA think it is cheaper to live here. Some items are (vegetable and AVOCADOS yeah!) but milk fuel wear and tear on vehicles is much higher here than there. Anyway we have incurred debt since serving in Guatemala. And it is ours to deal with. We are not going bankrupt and our support is amazingly stable considering the economic issues in our home country. We are grateful for your support.
Cindy went through the airport with a one way ticket and a new passport that did not have a visa properly stamped in it. It made security a little nervous. She looks so threatening as you know (just ask Casey and Peggy – she never scared Jason but that is a different story). She was grilled on at least two occasions and got to meet the drug and bomb dogs at our international airport. They liked her! Long lay over in Atlanta was extended when some equipment failed on the plane – on the ground – see we ARE blessed. She finally made it home about 8:30 pm (over 14 hour day for her) into the loving arms of family.
Her job starts today. She had this job the day we discussed this option and she called a lifelong friend Beverly. We also knew while we wanted to reduce costs we were going to need to invest in a car. In the meantime we called Red and Sandra (will save their last names as I have not asked them if I could share this yet) who always let us borrow their car. We asked if we could keep it a couple of months to build up a down payment on a personal vehicle. Red is a car nut. On Saturday Peggy dropped Cindy off at Red/Sandra's house to pick up the car. There was a Toyota Camry sitting in the driveway. These friends gifted us with a car y'all! I cannot express our gratitude enough. We believe this is a blessing from God. Cindy was crying when she told me… fortunately I was on this side and she couldn't see my reaction…
Thank you Red and Sandra. Thank you Beverly. Now to some frugal living and getting this time of our life behind us in as short a time as possible. No photos this time. Got to run, propane, meet with Tejeda-Harris about some paperwork, gearing up for a couple of Joni and Friends containers for Bethel International Ministries, water man comes today, garden needs hoed and lawn needs mowed and I have promised to spend some time on the bed with my leg in the air… dear!
Thank You LORD for friends that support us in so many unique ways.
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon
Being on the receiving end of giving:
It ain't easy. It is humbling. God requires it of all His children on occasion. We are from "America" (actually the United States of America – it is rude here to say you are from America as every one of our Guatemalan friends can say the same thing. We are often rude; it comes from our pride.) Relatively we are the wealthy ones, we should give. We are the spiritual ones here 'on mission' and a major part of that mission is to give. It is our role to give. But to receive??? From those who are poorer, from those who we consider friends, yokefellows in mission here; how does one do that?
First, friends, there is a dangerous pride in giving. It is an area the Christian community should take caution. When I give from the flesh; 1.) I keep accounts – you need to show me results. Based on those results depends my future giving. Noah and the apostles would have failed most mission agency tests. 2.) I put you in debt to me. 3.) I am in control of the relationship. You jump through my hoops so I and others can pat me on the back. (gag) If it honors self don't do it! If it honors Christ, don't you dare to not do!
Should accounting be done? – in the majority of cases overwhelmingly yes… but supporting missionaries in Islamic world, persecuted churches in North Korea, China, ministries that are trying to free people from gangs, sexual slavery and prostitution may be working in areas where 'necessary paper trails' can put these we call brother/sister in danger. Ask the LORD (it IS His money anyway) for wisdom and discernment in these situations. There are times to give, let go, shut up and don't go home and brag about it on the internet.
There is, also, a sinful pride in refusing to receive. (my struggle in this moment). Here I am just out of the hospital. Sick enough I scared my wife, an experienced nurse. Medical care in Guatemala is done in cash, baby! It is much less expensive when you do not have brokers (insurance companies, government) and lawyers under every rock. Still in our financial situation we were in a position we could not cover the hospitalization and the outpatient medical regimen. Payday is not until next week. We plundered the envelope for auto insurance and propane. Thought it might be enough… it was not. Humbling situation. Yes we are uninsured medically. We could not afford that luxury and serve here in Guatemala.
Into my room walk Oscar and Amy Garcia, and passes an envelope to me from the staff of Orphan Resource International (ORI). It was a busy week for ORI yet every staff member gave, sacrificially. We found out later that our situation was mentioned to ORI's USA staff and a team here in Guatemala and some of those gave – and that is still coming in. That first gift covered the IM and oral antibiotics, Nexium, couple other things in my daily medical regimen for a total of 10 days. If they had not given we could not have afforded those meds. We have praised ORI in the past and we continue to do so today.
So many other gifts… Amy fed Cindy and Mary Kate while they were watching over me that first day. Apparently I wasn't thinking of food at that point – Bummer! Amy can cook! The Walls brought killer chicken soup. The Sauders came a couple days after coming home with soup and grilled cheese sandwiches and their daughters cleaned up the kitchen afterwards. Y'all (that is what we say in North Carolina when we mean every last one of you'ns ) are a blessing to us. While I find it hard to receive from you, I was forced to see the providence of GOD for us from you. It is my prayer the LORD will return every centavo 100 fold so you can support the orphans He has given care of to you. Humbly Cindy and I thank Orphan Resource International for holding our hands in this moment.
Mary Kate Hardy biomedical engineering student, gave in a different way. We (Joe Leier, Rick Wood and I nicknamed her 'Chatty' – for those who know her, you just smiled) were blessed to have her in our house at this time of need. She went with Cindy and translated very effectively. Mary Kate and Rick Wood showed true mission flexibility by not complaining when we substantially changed her internship schedule here. I pray Mary Kate we do not have to do that again. Thank you both for your help and uncomplaining flexibility.
And Cindy… such a blessing to have a nurse/wife in this time. I am sure they would not have agreed to discharge if she did not have the skills to give injections, take vital signs etc. Thank you honey.
Since I am the photographer there are no photos accompanying this blog.
Thank you for your continued support.
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon
I am elegant…
This is a brief sweet story. One of the clients (Proyecto de Salud Sangre de Cristo) that use Vine International to help serve their patients had this elderly female patient walk in using a cut off piece of broom stick to help her ambulate. They took her broom stick and gave her a cane collected in Ohio by Wheels of Hope They collect from local private donors or some relationships with companies like Invacare. Vine International ships their goods to Guatemala and distributes to over one hundred ministries and humanitarian aid groups that serve the poor of Guatemala.
So back to this precious grandmother. She was obviously happy with the gift of the cane. The doctor and nurse said she walked into the waiting room, drew herself up to full height and with a big smile announced loudly to the waiting room, "Now I am elegant!"
I do not understand all that is going on in the states but regulations from agencies that no longer answer to congress are interfering with donations. Apparently large companies like Invacare must now send their product to an EPA approved recycling center for destruction instead of re-purposing to ministries like ours. It is sad. If true it is immoral.
Thank you for your continued support.
In Christ, Dennis and Cindy.
First Sponsored Container…
NOW it is NOT the first container… Actually it is 165th container and that doesn't count the buses and van loads of medical supplies that preceded that first container in the last 20 years. BUT it is the first SPONSORED Container of the SKIP program. SKIP is Woody's attempt at an acronym and stands for Sponsored Kontainer International Program and yes the spell check rejects it. This was a suggestion from friends of Vine late last year in order to try to increase interest and support for shipping containers of medical supplies. SO this is our first. And we are grateful. There will be a later report to show where some of these supplies end up and the patients they serve. See photos of delivery process linked here.
Your church, Sunday School class, civic organization, family or you personally can sponsor a container. The process is outlined on our website. Go to the main web page and scroll down til you see the proverbial Thermometer…www.vineinternational.org This first container funds are complete. It is a medical supply container on average taking $8,500 to pay shipping fees (fuel, road use taxes, container ship fees, drivers, sometimes security guards to ride shotgun just like stage coach with John Wayne). Often it takes another $3,000 for procurement issues. While on our website sign up for the newsletter and check out our history video.
Bruce Allsop will be joining with a few medical associates for the second container. You will notice that it is more expensive $14,500. This is due to fees needed to obtain the medicine and extra fees on this end to get it thru customs. This second container has a long way to go at this posting. Dr. Allsop is one of our board members. I have seen him at work – he is a treasure to the children he works with here in Guatemala. A couple of the photos included in the project page are from a trip I did with him. If you know Bruce and want to join in on the fun, read the instructions and consider a gift towards helping the poor of Guatemala. The link is here at Dr. Bruce Allsop Container
We thank you, all of you for your continued prayer and financial support. The discipleship group is growing by new professions of faith and BY BIRTH. Yea!
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon
God's Amazing Grace…
Cindy and I are leading a Bible study. The group is very mixed, English only, Spanish only and a few bilingual, and the runs of the spectrum of denominations, church wounded, broken families. I have never been with such diversity in such a small group (usually about a dozen or so). We are beginning the second chapter of Ephesians tonight. Paul's emphasis on the Grace of the Trinity in chapter one continues. Our salvation takes us from spiritually dead to life eternal in Christ. Our salvation is an act of Grace, a gift from God, purchased by the blood of Christ, sealed by the Holy Spirit. A gift I cannot repay.
Some teach we will know all when we get to heaven. I have always been uncomfortable with that thought. The only 'know it all' is God Himself, the rest are fools full of self pride and always fail when time comes to deliver. (smile – I were one so to speak). Read Ephesians 2:7 "in ages to come" He (God the Father) will show us / school us in grace. It seems to say it will take eternity to know what grace is…
Eph 2:7 that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus:
Verse 6 God the Father raised us and makes us SIT before Jesus, I believe for instruction. Would it not have been enough that God the Father were simply kind toward us? But Paul in v. 7, stretches the grandeur of speech and one gets the sense that words will never be enough.
His Kindness toward us – His grace in kindness toward us – RICHES of His grace in kindness toward us – THE EXCEEDING RICHES of His grace in kindness toward us === IN CHRIST.
I believe that we will be schooled in grace at the feet of Jesus sitting at the Throne on the right hand of the Father. That that school term will not be three, six or twelve months, but it will be for eternity. Grace is recieving what we do not deserve… simple thought. Do we understand? I think we only have a hint of grace, and that God the Father's hearts desire is that we understand this more fully. If we understood this we would once again turn the world upside down for the Glory of Christ. And all this (v. 8) a gift from the hand, mind and heart of God the Father.
Back to studying for the teaching this evening. May Jesus be glorified.
Please be in prayer for us and our neighbors. Lilly our precious neighbor was robbed at gunpoint and hit once with a bat. An attempt was made on our neighbor on the other side. We have a guard for a season. The professional guard here for the last two days cannot fire his weapon as the company charges him for each shell he uses. It is the Don Knotts Security Firm, I think. We are taking steps we believe to be wise, but ultimately we are in the LORD's Hands and surrounded by Legions of His Angels. We are His to do with as He pleases. Very firmly we are IN CHRIST!
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon
Five Years in Guatemala
Five years ago today Cindy and I stepped off the plane in Guatemala City (Peggy came with us for a brief time). Dennis and Doris Rice welcomed us. He tossed me the keys and told me the Mitzubishi was my responsibility. It has been a wild five years. We are now resident status in Guatemala, with Guatemalan ID and Driver's License.
One of the life lessons here is you cannot live here in a turtle shell, one must have friends and must invest in friends. In this we have been truly blessed. If I start listing events you will get bored reading and I will offend someone forgetting to put them in the list.
Vine International is somewhat unique. Our 'work' is shipping medical supplies, equipment and medicines to serve evangelical and humanitarian medical facilities that serve the rural and inner city poor. We have been given opportunities to preach, teach Bible, do weddings, work with building teams for hospitals and homes of handicapped, orphanages. We feel strongly we have been planted here for a great work to come. Our boss Woody Woodson sets the tone, abiding in Christ. It is easy to do 'good' works, my works and pull from Christianese to make us look good. Easy to take our 'mission' and ask Jesus to support our good ideas. God does not share His Glory or the Glory of His Son Jesus. Jesus is not there to be used for my benefit. If this is how we use Him then the work will always be natural and results predictable.
Abiding in Christ – Christ first, we abiding in submission, are free then to do what He asks. Yes to do the work of shipping an amazing amount of material on amazing little financial resources and sharing with over 100 works in Guatemala. But also to preach the Word, to be used to minister to neighbors, to be ministered to by neighbors. To love on some amazing brothers and sisters in Christ who do not have resources to respond with anything but love in return. To see God's transformed children serve in amazing ways through amazingly difficult circumstances in the midst of unspeakable evil. When the relationship is us in submission to our LORD it is His work and one can expect to see supernatural results as common. A boy's lunch of five loaves and two small fish feeds 5,000 men. The Vine Family believes this story is real and literal – we see it happen all the time. We participate in handing out that which comes from the Hand of Christ.
LORD, we praise You and Your Son. All glory and all honor are Yours. Thank You for calling Cindy and I here and giving us the provisions to do this work. May the work we do make You smile. There is much that is evil here and we claim Your power and authority over such as these. Make us bold to speak of the importance of relationship with Jesus Your Son. Let us see Your Hand and Heart at work in both our friends and even in Your enemies in this beautiful land. Keep our friends safe. Help us to steward the finances and materials that You give us into those ministries that are active in Your Harvest Fields. Thank You for this last five years and we turn our eyes to what is ahead until You call us Home. In Jesus Name Amen.
Thank you for your support. We value your financial support and prayers, believing God gives you that desire and those resources. And finally, Cindy has a four year driver license. She threatened Woody with she has no desire to get another Guatemalan Driver's license… smile. We will see.
In Christ,
Dennis and Cindy McCutcheon