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Issued September 4, 2009
Numerous media outlets have contacted 911truth.org, asking us to "make
sense" of Van Jones' "strange" behavior. We have issued the following
As the eighth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, what doesn't make sense to
us is that media outlets choose to impugn the character of the signatories
rather than carry out your responsibility as watchdogs to call attention to
the as yet unanswered questions raised in the 2004 statement. Five years later,
we challenge you to finally print those same unanswered questions and pursue
their answers with the same vigor with which you pursue the signatories.
We are overwhelmed by all the messages of support that we have received in the last 24 hours. We apologize that we can not possibly respond to each individual message, but please know we do read each one and are grateful for your support. For those of you asking what you can do to help, we encourage you to use the questions of this 2004 Statement as talking points for calls to your local media outlets and national call-in programs, and letters to the editors. Perhaps with your help, we can finally get answers to these lingering questions. Thank you.
For readers' convenience, following is the actual Truth Statement signed onto
by Van Jones in 2004, currently being discussed in the media.
The Statement
We Want Real Answers About 9/11
On August 31, 2004, Zogby International, the official North American political polling agency for Reuters, released a poll that found… Continue reading
By Tim Hjersted
Lawrence Journal-World Blogs
Shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11th, President Bush asked the American public to "never entertain outrageous conspiracy theories." The irony of his statement is easily lost. Most people consider themselves reasonable, thoughtful individuals that don't believe in crazy conspiracy theories, but the Official story of 9/11 — that 19 radical terrorists conspired for several years to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings — is, in fact, a conspiracy theory. It just happens that this theory has the official endorsement of the U.S. government. So, believe our conspiracy theory, not theirs, Mr. Bush asks us. Don't look at the facts. Don't investigate for yourself. Just believe what you're told.
This is, in effect, what the government and the mainstream media is asking us when it labels any idea a "conspiracy theory," and we can see how incredibly effective this tool has been in stunting rational debate.
Over the decades, the term "conspiracy theory" has gained an increasingly negative stigma. People associate conspiracy theorists with kooks and wackos, paranoid rabble-rousers and self-proclaimed prophets with delusions of grandeur.
Long story short, the term has a whole long list of negative connotations, and most reasonable folks who value their reputation will avoid any conspiracy topics like the plague once it's clear that the topic is now deemed ultra hazardous "conspiracy" territory.
Because of this, the term has become an incredibly effective propaganda tool for those who would prefer to silence dissenting opinions rather than debate… Continue reading
2009 Truth Statement
We STILL Want Real Answers About 9/11
[Signatures have been closed as of March, 2010]
On August 31, 2004, Zogby International, the official North American political polling agency for Reuters, released a poll that found nearly half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of those in New York state believe US leaders had foreknowledge of impending 9/11 attacks and "consciously failed" to act. Of the New York City residents, 66% called for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or the New York Attorney General. Since that time, multiple professional polling organizations have obtained similar results in polls conducted nationally and internationally.
In 2004, 911truth.org assembled a list of notable Americans and family members of those who died who signed (see that list of signatories, below) a 9/11 Statement, calling for "immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."
On the eighth anniversary of 9/11, in spite of Americans having elected the "other" party in hopes it would deliver on its promise of a change in direction, we find ourselves asking these same questions and encountering the same resistance to transparency. The ensuing wars have destroyed countless lives, our civil liberties (including habeas corpus) are in tatters, posse comitatus is history, and our economy lies essentially in ruin. Meanwhile, thousands of 9/11 responders who rushed to stand with America in its time of… Continue reading
September 11, 2009
Peter Dale Scott, with Michael Berger and Janice Matthews
In the last few days Glenn Beck and the Washington Times have forced Van Jones to resign as environmentalist "green jobs" adviser to the White House. His principal offense: having allegedly signed a 2004 Statement from 911Truth.org calling for a new investigation of the events of 9/11.(Van Jones has subsequently denied ever signing or supporting the 2004 Statement and his name has been removed from the list of signatories.)
This is a moment of truth for all who want America to be an open society. As the Los Angeles Times reported on September 8, "Other conservatives, smelling blood in the water, are sharpening their knives." Why should they not? The White House has just capitulated to a dishonest attack claiming that Jones "thinks the Bush administration blew up the World Trade Centers and covered it up." You can check Beck"s capacity for accuracy by comparing this claim to the relevant call in the Statement itself: "for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."
Supporting Beck are authors like Charles Krauthammer, arguing that "truthers" — those of us who signed the 911truth statement — are creating "a hallucinatory alternative reality in the service of a fathomless malice."
In the wake of these attacks, three of the original hundred signers — including the environmentalist Paul Hawken and Jodie Evans… Continue reading
Two weeks ago America's media, led by the Washington Times and quickly followed by particularly vitriolic television personalities, blasted Obama-appointed "Green Jobs" Advisor Van Jones for various personal positions and actions taken over the course of his life as an activist. Chief among them was his name being counted among signatories (Van Jones has subsequently denied that he ever signed the 2004 Statement) to a Statement issued by 911truth.org in 2004 asking for answers to 9/11-related questions, signed by 150 other "notable Americans" and 9/11 victims' family members. The ensuing blood bath did not involve Jones' positions on "Green" issues, for which he had been hired to advise – nor did the "Truther" feeding frenzy ever ONCE involve mention of the 12 questions listed on that Statement, questions which remain unanswered now . Readers of 911truth.org are aware of this media side-show, which eventually led to Jones' resignation on 9/12, and no doubt read the statement we issued to the press in response to their calls:
As the eighth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, what doesn't make sense to us is that media outlets choose to impugn the character of the signatories rather than carry out your responsibility as watchdogs to call attention to the as yet unanswered questions raised in the 2004 statement. Five years later, we challenge you to finally print those same unanswered questions and pursue their answers with the same vigor with which you pursue the signatories.
Now, similar "news" coverage is attacking Golden Globe winning actor… Continue reading
Thursday, September 17, 2009
By Jay Levin and Tom McKenzie
The Santa Barbara Independent
In Print Cover Story
One of the crucial technical disputes in American history, perhaps second only to global warming, is underway. It pits hundreds of government technicians who say the World Trade Center buildings were brought down by airplane impact against hundreds of professional architects and building engineers who insist that the Twin Towers could never have collapsed solely due to the planes and are calling for a new independent investigation. It is a fight that is not going away and is likely to get louder as more building trade professionals sign on to one side or the other.
Better than anyone, David Ray Griffin understands the "enormous importance" of Richard Gage, the Bay Area architect and staunch Republican who founded Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (AE911 Truth).
4,000 word exclusive interview with 'the gagged FBI whistleblower on espionage, al-Qaeda, and secrets for sale'…
Source: www.bradblog.com
Broke the news on air tonight. 4,000 word cover story on FBI translator turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds in The American Conservative to hit stands and web tomorrow, by former CIA agent Phil Giraldi.
We'll pick this up tomorrow after I get a look at it. You East Coasters will likely beat me to it. But here's the teaser from TAC…:
There's a new issue of The American Conservative going to press today, and it includes a story that will make more than a few congressmen and foreign lobbyists intensely uncomfortable: an in-depth interview between Phil Giraldi and FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. She tells us exactly how Turkish intelligence have penetrated national secrets, suborned government officials, and blackmailed Congress. It's going to be explosive.
Good. Rightwingers are covering it. So hopefully that means the "liberal media" will now pay attention!
UPDATE 9/18/09 1:15pm PT: Sibel posted the cover over at her site, and I've added it above. She also notes that the story is currently online available online to subscribers only until Monday when they'll release "a major press release" along with the print version out the same day. The story should then be available to all online on Tuesday.
The cover title: "Whose Afraid of Sibel Edmonds?: The gagged FBI whistleblower on espionage, al-Qaeda, and secrets for sale"
In an email she just sent me just now, she notes: "We've been… Continue reading
The BRAD BLOG : Exclusive: Upcoming Cover Story on Edmonds 'Outs' Video-taped, 'Blackmailed' Dem Congresswoman; Alleges State Dept. Mole at NYTimes; MUCH MORE…
'American Conservative' mag's description of interview with previously-gagged FBI whistleblower as 'explosive' may prove to be a gross understatement
Blackmail, bribery, infiltration, theft and sale of nuke secrets by Turkey,
Israel explained in clearer detail than ever before…
It seems it may be difficult to not notice it, given that Edmonds finally names, on the record, for the first time, in a right-leaning periodical founded by Pat Buchanan, the identity of the currently-serving Democratic Congresswoman she has previously described as married with grown children and having been "hooked" into participating in a lesbian affair with a Turkish foreign agent, as she was secretly video-taped for blackmail purposes.
Edmonds has alluded to the Congresswoman, without naming her, in the past, most notably in her recent sworn and video-taped deposition in the Schmidt v. Krikorian case now pending before the Ohio Election Commission. In that testimony, she did manage to name the names of other Congress members she had previously identified publicly. At the time, we (and virtually no other media outlets) reported on her disclosures that Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Bob Livingston (R-LA), Dan Burton (R-IN), Roy Blunt (R-MO), Stephen Solarz (D-NY) and Tom Lantos (D-CA, deceased), were all participants in blackmail and/or bribery schemes by and with agents of the Turkish government, as she became aware while translating wiretaps in the FBI's counterintelligence division after 9/11. Some… Continue reading
The gagged whistleblower goes on the record.
By Sibel Edmonds and Philip Giraldi
American Conservative Magazine
Sibel Edmonds has a story to tell. She went to work as a Turkish and Farsi translator for the FBI five days after 9/11. Part of her job was to translate and transcribe recordings of conversations between suspected Turkish intelligence agents and their American contacts. She was fired from the FBI in April 2002 after she raised concerns that one of the translators in her section was a member of a Turkish organization that was under investigation for bribing senior government officials and members of Congress, drug trafficking, illegal weapons sales, money laundering, and nuclear proliferation. She appealed her termination, but was more alarmed that no effort was being made to address the corruption that she had been monitoring.
A Department of Justice inspector general's report called Edmonds's allegations "credible," "serious," and "warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review by the FBI." Ranking Senate Judiciary Committee members Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) have backed her publicly. "60 Minutes" launched an investigation of her claims and found them believable. No one has ever disproved any of Edmonds's revelations, which she says can be verified by FBI investigative files.
John Ashcroft's Justice Department confirmed Edmonds's veracity in a backhanded way by twice invoking the dubious State Secrets Privilege so she could not tell what she knows. The ACLU has called her "the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America."
But… Continue reading
September 28th, 2009
by Philip Giraldi
John M. Cole, a former FBI Counterintelligence and Counterespionage Manager, has publicly confirmed the FBI's decade long investigation of the former State Department Official Marc Grossman. Cole worked for 18 years in the FBI's Counterintelligence Division. According to Cole, as in over one hundred cases involving Israeli espionage activities directed against the US government, the Grossman case was covered up and buried despite mountains of evidence that was collected.
Here is the public response from John Cole after the publication of The American Conservative magazine's cover story:
"I read the recent cover story by The American Conservative magazine.
I applaud their courage in publishing this significant interview. I am fully aware of the FBI's decade-long investigation of the High-level State Department Official named in this article, Marc Grossman, which ultimately was buried and covered up. It is long past time to investigate this case and bring about accountability…"
In November 2006, in an by Jeff Stein published by "Congressional Quarterly" on the cover-up of espionage cases involving Israel, Cole was quoted extensively:
"John M. Cole, an FBI spy catcher who retired in 2004, says that from 1993 to 1995 alone, he had "125 open cases" of Israeli espionage, representing nearly half of all the investigations carried on in his Global Unit, part of the now-defunct National Security division." Inside the FBI itself, Cole said, tracking suspected Israeli spies was hush-hush.In a sharp break with FBI procedures, he was prohibited from notifying field offices when… Continue reading
by Steven J. DuBord
October 1, 2009
The Federal Bureau of Investigation claims that surveillance tapes
of the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April
19, 1995 have not been edited, despite the fact that all of the more than two
dozen tapes released fail mysteriously to show the moments just before the truck
bomb exploded.
Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue obtained the tapes through a Freedom
of Information Act request as part of his investigation of the bombing. All
of the tapes feature blanks just before the bomb went off at 9:02 a.m., but
"the interesting thing is they spring back on after 9:02," Trentadue
said. "The absence of footage from these crucial time intervals is evidence
that there is something there that the FBI doesn't want anybody to see."
The Associated Press reported on September 30 that FBI spokesman Paul Bresson
told them in an e-mail the Bureau didn't edit the tapes before releasing
them. Bresson said the FBI responded to Trentadue's request by turning
over 26 videos taken from surveillance cameras in 11 different locations. The
agency did not report finding any tapes from the Murrah Building itself.
"The FBI made no edits or redactions in the processing of these videos,"
Bresson stated. "The tapes are typical security cameras — the view
switches camera to camera every few seconds." Bresson declined to elaborate
when AP made further contact with him.
Even if the cameras were switching views, it is highly… Continue reading
by Jon Gold
This is dedicated to the 9/11 Truth Movement. – Jon
Before I begin, I would like to say that theorizing about what happened on 9/11, when you're not being given answers to your questions about that day by the people who SHOULD be able to do so, is PERFECTLY normal. As is suspecting that the reason these answers aren't being given is "sinister" in nature. As Ray McGovern said, "for people to dismiss these questioners as "conspiratorial advocates", or "conspiratorial theorists"… that's completely out of line because the… The questions remain because the President who should be able to answer them, WILL NOT." When you think about everything the previous Administration did in 8 years, the idea that they might not be giving us the answers we seek because of something "sinister" is not crazy. In fact, it's the most logical conclusion one can come to at this point. After seven plus years of obfuscation, spin, lies, and cover-ups regarding the 9/11 attacks, it is unavoidable to think that criminal complicity is the reason why.
That being said, we have not proven it beyond the shadow of doubt. We do not have documentation that shows they planned it. We do not have a signed confession from someone. We have pieces of the puzzle, and to most of us that have been doing this a long time, those pieces point to more than just Osama Bin Laden, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and 19 hijackers. If we could… Continue reading
October 23, 2009
The Real News Network
Former FBI agent Colleen Rowley discusses still unanswered questions about the lead up to 9/11. Coleen Rowley is a former FBI agent and whistleblower. Rowley jointly held the TIME "Person of the Year" award in 2002 with two other women credited as whistleblowers.
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnLMAzUIb5M&feature=player_embedded
October 21, 2009 by Bryant Jordan Military.com
After seven years of forced silence, a government whistleblower is opening up on what she learned while working as a Turkish translator for the FBI in the wake of 9/11.
In sworn testimony to attorneys on Aug. 8, Sibel Edmonds described a Pentagon where key personnel helped pass defense secrets to foreign agents or provided them names of knowledgeable officials who were vulnerable to blackmail or co-option.
And firmly rooted in this espionage program in the 1990s, according to Edmonds' deposition, were two men who, with the election of George W. Bush as president in 2000, found themselves in the Pentagon: Douglas Feith, who would head the Office of Special Plans, and Richard Perle, who would become chairman of the Defense Advisory Board.
"They were 100 percent directly involved," Edmonds told Military.com. "They were not in the Pentagon [in the late 1990s] but they had their people inside the Pentagon." One of those people, she said, was Larry Franklin, an Air Force officer assigned to the Office of Special Plans who, in 2003, passed classified information to representatives of the American Israel Public Affairs Office, or AIPAC. By then Feith was leading the OSP.
Edmonds cautioned that she does not know if these practices are continuing, since she was fired by the FBI in April 2002 after pressing for an investigation into an attempt by a colleague to recruit her for an organization that was itself a target of FBI surveillance.
Perle, today… Continue reading
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This is a news item pertaining to the Complete 911 Timeline investigative project, one of several grassroots investigations being hosted on the History Commons website. The data published as part of this investigation has been collected, organized, and published by members of the public who are registered users of this website.
Additions as of November 4, 2009 Source URL: http://www.historycommons.org/news.jsp?oid=140393703-933
One of the main focuses at the 9/11 Timeline recently has been the destruction of a tape of FAA flight controllers' recollections. The tape was made at the FAA's New York Center about an hour and a half after the attacks ended, despite worries about the procedure by a union official and the controllers. However, when New York Center forwarded evidence about the attacks to the FBI the next day, it did not provide the tape , and its existence was not reported to superiors . The controllers then prepared written statements without reviewing the tape , and a union official was concerned whether anyone had heard it. One of the controllers later asked to listen to the taped statement he had made, but his request was denied . When New York Center submitted a formal accident package, the tape was again absent . Although the Center had been told to retain 9/11 evidence , the tape was later destroyed. Following the tape's destruction, the manager who destroyed it was suspended , but did not face criminal charges.…Continue reading
November 4, 2009
Kevin Fenton
History Commons Groups
New details of a NORAD exercise called Amalgam Virgo 01-02 have been found in a document at the National Archives. The exercise involved a suicide pilot attacking a military installation in the US. It was run in early June 2001, just three months before 9/11.
The document was found in the 9/11 Commission's files at the National Archives by History Commons contributor Erik Larson (a.k.a. Paxvector) and uploaded to the 9/11 Document Archive at Scribd. Some information about the exercise was revealed at the History Commons Groups blog in June, when we publicised a commission document summarising a group of military exercises designed to help the military deal with suicide hijackings. However, the newly-found three-page scenario provides more detail.
In the scenario, a Haitian AIDS sufferer named Reginald Montrose forms an alliance with Columbian drug lords. This link-up is inspired by funding the Columbians have provided to treat AIDS patients in Haiti. Montrose plans to crash a Cessna into the headquarters of the Southeast Air Defense Sector (SEADS) in Florida. Its destruction will draw attention to the Haitians' plight and "allow the drug cartel to flood the US with flights of aircraft and to increase their market share in the US drug market."
The exercise starts with a call from a local airport manager to SEADS saying that they have found a suicide note in a suspicious car, and one of their small aircraft is missing. Another call then… Continue reading
November 25, 2009
[Story Updated 12/2/2009 at 911truth.org with reviwed material from www.911.wikileaks.org.]
From 3AM on Wednesday November 25, 2009, until 3AM the following day (US east coast time), WikiLeaks released half a million US national text pager intercepts. The intercepts cover a 24 hour period surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington.
The messages were broadcasted "live" to the global community — sychronized to the time of day they were sent. The first message was from 3AM September 11, 2001, five hours before the first attack, and the last, 24 hours later.
Text pagers are usually carried by persons operating in an official capacity. Messages in the archive range from Pentagon, FBI, FEMA and New York Police Department exchanges, to computers reporting faults at investment banks inside the World Trade Center.
The archive is a completely objective record of the defining moment of our time. We hope that its entrance into the historical record will lead to a nuanced understanding of how this event led to death, opportunism and war.
Twitter users should refer to the hashtag #911txts. We will give status updates at twitter.com/wikileaks.
Observations may be posted to posted here.
Please remember to protect and support our work.An index of messages released is available here.All pager messages released can be downloaded here as a single compressed text file. RELATED: 9/11 Text Messages Released: Wikileaks Publishes Intercepted Government Pager Texts As They Were Sent November 25, 2009 Government employees… Continue reading
9/11 Text Messages Released: Wikileaks Publishes Intercepted Government Pager Texts As They Were Sent
November 25, 2009
Government employees… Continue reading
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by Kevin Fenton
We have found the famous "What Do I Do Now?" memo drafted by 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow on March 2, 2003. The memo advised staffers newly hired by the commission what they should do after starting work.
The memo was found by Erik at the National Archives and uploaded to the 9/11 Document Archive at Scribd.
Philip Shenon's The Commission highlighted the memo and one controversial section in particular. The section says:
Interactions with commissioners can be helpful to you and them. If you are contacted by a commissioner with questions, please contact Chris [Kojm, Zelikow's deputy] or me. Consulting with the Chair and Vice-Chair, we will be sure that the appropriate members of the Commission staff are responsive.
Shenon called this provision, channelling contacts between the staff and the commissioners through Zelikow and his deputy, "unusual" and "worrying to the staff." He added:
It occurred to several of the staff members, especially those with experience on other federal commissions, that Zelikow was trying to cut off their contact with the people they really worked for–the commissioners. Democratic commissioner Jamie Gorelick saw a copy of Zelikow's memo and was furious. Through an arrangement with her law firm, she intended to spend nearly half of her work week on commission business, and she was not going to have Zelikow telling the staff that they could not speak freely with her–that they had to wait to get his… Continue reading


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Wow...I wish we could get $9 tickets in St. Louis. That's cheap.Originally Posted by redsrule2500
i would go to more games if it was cheaper causing them to get more of my money, it doesnt make sense....oh and its $9 for bleachers $12 for upper deck and $5 for the oufield upperdeck seats that u buy at the game
We have instituted the barter system here in Cincy, which has led to numerous scrapes.Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
Castellini should introduce Produce Night..... half price tickets for a bushel of asparagus!
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Hey, read my signature. I might be able to help you out with some $5 tickets. Message me if interested.Originally Posted by redsrule2500
If you ain't first, you're last! - Ricky Bobby
$9 seems like peanuts compared to hockey tickets.
$100 regular season tickets in Calgary have become $150 for the first round of the playoffs, and will reach $250 for the last round.
If you aren't willing to spend more money on tickets, then you can't expect the team to raise the payroll and add better players. A big reason why the Cardinals have a near $100Mil payroll is because tickets cost a lot more than they do in Cincinnati, and a Cardinals ticket is still a lot cheaper than a Rams or a Blues ticket.
No kidding, I paid 49 dollars after fees and tax for that seat in LF. I was in the very last row under the deck on the end next to the stairs.Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life
I was fine paying that to go to one game. I was thinking that dropping a Grant on that seat was a bit much after I got there.
The question is, will those prices go down at all once all the seats are open? I really doubt it.
"And the fact that watching him pitch is like having someone poop on your soul." FCB on Gary Majewski
Yeah, the tickets in Cincinnati are cheap, you really shouldn't complain about it.
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And speaking of peanuts... $9 seems cheap if you decide to eat while at the game! Spending more to eat & drink than the ticket is like spending more on a concert t-shirt than the concert ticket. Just doesn't seem right for some reason...Originally Posted by PuffyPig
Must be a list somewhere on the avg. ticket price for each MLB team. I'd guess the REDS are closer to the bottom than the top.
Small market fan... always hoping, but never expecting.
Then buy the $5 tickets next time.Originally Posted by redsrule2500
The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.
I doubt it. Most of the seats have already been sold. Tickets have been expensive for the last several years. It would be nice if they were cheaper, but then we would be watching a team like the Royals play.Originally Posted by StillFunkyB
Well the Reds run half price ticket deals all the time. I dont know how old you are, but they have half price ticket nights for Teens/College Students/Senior Citizens at least twice a month. You have to buy the ticket in advance, but any non premium seat is half price. There are also tons of other ways to get seats half price. Some times pepsi cans have deals on them, family days you buy 1 ticket for full price and get the rest of the family for half price....and not to mention you can just buy 5 dollar tickets the day of the game. Then you get your 9 dollar bleacher seats, which I personally hate becuase unless you are in the first few rows, you cant see the entire field.
I don't think they raised ticket prices this season, did they?
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June 16th, 2009 #1
Can someone help me with lighting problems!!
Hey guys I just started this a few hours ago. Im happy with the progress so far but i would greatly appreciate some advice, tips, tricks, etc. If anyone has any cool ideas that i could add in that would also be rly cool please help meh out here
I moved the moon over it does look better thank you!
Hey guys i need some help. I feel like im going in the wrong direction with the building. Im pretty sure the lighting is off and i feel it should be darker. Can someone help me out I would really really really appreciate it.
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Nice mood you catched there.
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I am not sure about the moon in the center of the picture. Wouldnt it be nice to use it to guide the eye to the castle instead of the way ? If the moon is on an own layer it should be easy to try it out.
The way looks like it is actually getting wider instead of being just perspectively deformed.
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Having the path in the center and a fountain as well, is going to split your image in two. You might want to widen the image a bit and make the path angle towards the castle a bit more.
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Just a note; the part of the castle blocking the moon should be a dark silhouette due to it being against the main light source--though I'm not sure if that applies on cloudy nights as well, you might want to check a reference for the lighting there.
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I hope you don't mind, but I did a quick paint over.
I think your image is a really good start, but it currently has in my opinion, not quite enough value range to really pull out the drama it could. In my paint over I brightened the sky near the moon and darkened the sky at the edges, which made the whole thing a little moodier, and focuses your attention on the mansion. Also, as someone else suggested the mansion should be darker as it's backlit by the moon, so that was as well darkened. You now have a really good contrast of light and dark in that area, which is more eye catching.
Edit-- Man my work computer is calibrated like crap. This doesn't look exactly like how I intended it, but it gets the general point across.
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I plan on doing this! Anything to help prevent postpartum depression from happening again!
You may have heard of placentophagia (or eating the placenta) thanks to celebrities like Tom Cruise, who in 2006 reportedly planned to consume his partner Katie Holmes' placenta, and more recently, January Jones, who told People that she took vitamins and placenta capsules after giving birth to give her energy. What's the reason for this trend and why on earth would anyone choose to eat their own placenta? We're going to tell you everything you need to know about the benefits of "eating your own placenta" and provide you with instructions on how to make placenta capsules.
The concept of eating the placenta may sound a bit far-fetched, but if you look at the animal world you'll realize that it's actually not that bizarre. When a woman gives birth and delivers the placenta, she loses all the nutrients contained in the placenta. By eating the placenta, she is able to replace the nutrients that she lost. The placenta is rich in hormones, protein, vitamins, and hemoglobin (which is an iron-rich protein).
Some benefits of consuming the placenta include:
One of the easiest ways to have your placenta encapsulated is to find a placenta service provider. Many doulas provide this service as part of their postpartum care. If you would prefer to do it yourself, we have provided instructions below. However, keep in mind that placenta service providers are usually trained in Traditional Chinese Medicine and are able to add specific herbs and nutrients to meet your specific postpartum needs.
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3. Steam the placenta in a steamer on the stove. Place the placenta inside your steamer's basket over water. Add fresh ginger and lemon slices. Then steam on low heat for about 15 minutes. Flip it over and steam for another 15 minutes. You'll know when it is cooked enough by poking it with a fork. When no juices come out, you're ready for the next step.
4. Once the placenta is steamed, remove it from the steamer. Discard the ginger and lemon. Then take the fully cooked placenta over to your cutting board and slice it into thin strips (the thinner you slice it, the faster it will dehydrate).
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I plan on doing this! Anything to help prevent postpartum depression from happening again!
By .Nikki. on 05/10/12 at 5:54 pm
i find this really interesting, im just not sure if i could do it myself, and there is no one in my area.
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Mueller's mother, Moira Fiore, tried to set the record straight last week in a recent issue of In Touch Weekly. She told the magazine Mueller had been rushed to the hospital because of a dangerous fever that resulted from having her wisdom teeth removed.
"The infections and pneumonia are what caused the shutting down of her organs," Fiore told In Touch. "Brooke was very sick."
It was Mueller and Sheen's past history of alcohol abuse that People magazine said led to a Christmas Eve spat that turned ugly during the early hours of Dec. 25.
In an audio recording of a 911 call, a woman who identifies herself as Brooke tells the dispatcher that her husband threatened her with a knife and added, "I thought I was going to die for one hour."
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Ukrainian dessert?
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Recently I had the wonderful Ukrainian dessert "chroosteh" (sp), fried sugared dough in the shape of pigs' ears. Does anyone know if this specialty might be found somewhere in Brighton Beach?
Are they similar to Lithuanian Chruscik? (Sounds similar.) Those are available lots of places in the NYC area -- most Polish stores will carry them and even some local places do -- they have pretty good distribution. (Key Food on Atlantic in Brooklyn Heights has had them in the past.)
re: lambretta76
Sounds like it is Chrusciki,commercially made by White Eagle Bakery in Greenpoint. Sold to Polish groceries and Polish restaurants. It tastes great, usually with powdered sugar.
Chrusciki is how you say cookie in Polish ( pronounced Krooshki)