text: Nikolaevsk CDP in the Kenai Peninsula Borough Community Details Incorporation Type CDP Area Type Community Current Population 270 Population Comment 2014 Department of Labor Estimate Pronunciation nick' oh lyvsk Borough/Census Area FIPS Code 122 Place FIPS 54085 Economy Subsistence No Residents Age 16 and Over 218 Residents Employed in 2013 89 Residents Employed (%) 41 Employed in all 4 Quarters (%) 55 Employed in Private Sector (%) 75 Employed in Local Gov. (%) 25 Employed in State Gov. (%) 0 Resident Wages in 2013 ($) 2,497,608 New Hires 39 Unemployment Insurance Claimants 28 Local Labor Market Info URL http://live.laborstats.alaska.gov/alari/index.cfm?r=2&b=12&p=223&goplace=go Economy - Fisheries Participation and Earnings CDQ Participant No CQE Eligible No Count of Seafood Processors 0 All Fisheries, Permit Holders 24 All Fisheries, Permits Issued 37 All Fisheries, Permit Holders that Fished 19 All Fisheries, Est. Earnings ($) 1,807,306 All Fisheries, Total (Lbs.) 1,757,663 Crab, Permit Holders 0 Crab, Permits Issued 0 Crab, Permit holders that fished 0 Crab, Est. Earnings ($) 0 Crab, Total (Lbs.) 0 Halibut, Permit Holders 10 Halibut, Permits Issued 10 Halibut, Permit holders that fished 9 Halibut, Est. Earnings ($) 453,685 Halibut, Total (Lbs.) 117,817 Herring, Permit Holders 0 Herring, Permits Issued 0 Herring, Permit holders that fished 0 Herring, Est. Earnings ($) 0 Herring, Total (Lbs.) 0 Other Groundfish, Permit Holders 3 Other Groundfish, Permits Issued 3 Other Groundfish, Permit holders that fished 0 Other Groundfish, Est. Earnings ($) 0 Other Groundfish, Total (Lbs.) 0 Other Shellfish, Permit Holders 0 Other Shellfish, Permits Issued 0 Other Shellfish, Permit holders that fished 0 Other Shellfish, Est. Earnings ($) 0 Other Shellfish, Total (Lbs.) 0 Black Cod, Permit Holders 3 Black Cod, Permits Issued 4 Black Cod, Permit holders that fished 3 Black Cod, Est. Earnings ($) 0 Black Cod, Note Community has permit holders in this fishery but data is suppressed; three or fewer permit holders participated in one or more of the fisheries. Black Cod, Total (Lbs.) 0 Salmon, Permit Holders 19 Salmon, Permits Issued 20 Salmon, Permit holders that fished 16 Salmon, Est. Earnings ($) 1,294,110 Salmon, Total (Lbs.) 1,617,486 Economy - Fuel Prices Election, Recording, and Judicial Districts Senate District P Senator Gary Stevens (R) House District 31 Representative Paul Seaton (R) Judicial District 3 Recording District Homer Facilities and Amenities Broadband Internet Available Yes Broadband Cell Phone Services Yes Cell Phone Service Available Yes Max Upload Speed Available 50 Mbps to 100 Mbps Max Download Speed Available 50 Mbps to 100 Mbps Geography and Climate Location Nikolaevsk is located on the Kenai Peninsula, inland near Anchor Point. It lies on a road leading from North Fork Road and the Sterling Highway. It was named to honor St. Nicholas, the patron saint of the town's church. Community Map Available No Latitude 59.8119 Longitude -151.6106 Sq Mi Land 0.00 Sq Mi Water 0.00 Climate Nikolaevsk falls within the gulf coast maritime climate zone, characterized by a rainy atmosphere, long, cold winters, and mild summers. Max. Daily Precipitation (Inches) 0.0 Total Precipitation (Inches) 0.0 Max. Measured Snow Depth (Inches) 0 Total Snowfall (Inches) 0 Max. Daily Temperature (°F) 0 Min. Daily Temperature (°F) 0 History and Culture History Nikolaevsk is the location of a settlement of "Russian Old Believers," whose ancestors settled in Woodburn, Oregon, after the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 forced them out of Russia. The first Old Believer settlers on the Kenai Peninsula received a grant from the Tolstoy Foundation in New York and purchased land there in 1967. The first school opened in an 8-by-20-foot trailer in 1972. Until 1980, students attended classes through the ninth grade, then began their adult lives; many students now go on to complete their education. As growth occurred during the 1980s and 1990s, additional settlements developed in the area. Culture The community includes Russian Orthodox, Russian Old Believers (Old Right Believers), and some non-Russians, living in three distinct settlements. The Old Believers in this area lead a family-oriented, self-sufficient lifestyle. They use modern utilities and food sources are from gardening, small livestock, fishing, and hunting. Families are typically very large (8 to 12 children). Traditional clothing is worn, Russian is the first language, and the church dictates that males do not shave. Residents typically marry at a young age. Federally Recognized Tribe No Municipal Powers Regions Borough/Census Area Kenai Peninsula Borough School District Kenai Peninsula Borough School District DCRA Alaska Region Gulf Coast Region Climate Region Gulf Coast Maritime Taxes Sales Tax (%) 3.00 Sales Tax Note Borough Tax Property Tax (Mills) 4.50 Property Tax Note Borough Tax Transportation Transportation The nearby Sterling Highway provides access to Anchorage. Homer offers an airport, harbor/docking facilities, and a state ferry landing. Harbor/Dock No State Ferry No Cargo Barge No Road Connection Yes Coastal No Housing - 2010 Census Total Housing Units 150 Total Households 107 Family Households 79 Average Household Size 2.97 Total Occupied Housing Units 107 Total Vacant Housing Units 43 Occupied Housing Units (%) 71.3 Owner Occupied Units (%) 80.4 Renter Occupied Units (%) 19.6 Vacant Housing Units (%) 28.7 Vacant Due to Seasonal Use (%) 60.5 Census Population History Population in 1990 371 Population in 2000 345 Population in 2010 318 Population by Age - 2010 Census 19 or Younger 115 20 to 64 184 65 and Older 19 Median Age 32 Other Population Characteristics - 2010 Census Population by Gender: Female 154 Population by Gender: Male 164 Percent Native, Alone or in Combination with Another Race 5.78 Income - 2009-2013 ACS 5-Year Estimates Per Capita Income 14,379 Per Capita Income - Margin of Error +/-3,557 Median Household Income 24,286 Median Household Income - Margin of Error +/-11,066 Median Family Income 32,188 Median Family Income - Margin of Error +/-6,242 Poverty - 2009-2013 ACS 5-Year Estimates Population for whom poverty status is determined 175 Total Population - Margin of Error +/-55 Persons below poverty level (%) 22.90 Persons below poverty level (%) - Margin of Error +/-13.4 All Individuals below 125 percent of poverty level 48 Persons below 125% of poverty level - Margin of Error +/-26


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5.0 out of 5 stars Beautiful and timeless
Nirvana's Unplugged remains one of the band's most majestic moments. Coming hot off the heels of the noisy In Utero album, the band decided to stop into MTV's studios in New York City and play an acoustic set that completely erased any notions that they were just a simple "grunge" band. Kurt Cobain seems completely relaxed throughout, and he gives some...
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2.0 out of 5 stars Back to Earth, Devoted Fans
First, let me say that I own everything I could get my hands on from Nirvana and that, as a Washingtonian, I also feel a degree of civic pride to have had Nirvana originate in my own figurative backyard. Add to this that anyone listening to more recent rock cannot fail to identify the influence of grunge which Nirvana (though not the originators of the sound) were...
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5.0 out of 5 stars Beautiful and timeless,
Adam Rickards (Las Vegas, NV United States) - See all my reviews
Nirvana's Unplugged remains one of the band's most majestic moments. Coming hot off the heels of the noisy In Utero album, the band decided to stop into MTV's studios in New York City and play an acoustic set that completely erased any notions that they were just a simple "grunge" band. Kurt Cobain seems completely relaxed throughout, and he gives some staggeringly beautiful vocal performances. Dave Grohl plays the drums with wire brushes and demonstrates that he was just as capable of subtle shading as he was at hard-hitting fury. Krist Novoselic proves himself to be a worthwhile musician as well, playing accordion on "Jesus Doen't Want Me For a Sunbeam" in additon to playing a very solid-yet-laid back acoustic bass. Add former Germs guitarist Pat Smear to the lineup, as well as a guest appearance by the Kirkwood brothers of Tempe band the Meat Puppets, and you have all of the ingredients of that legendary November 1993 night.
All of the most obvious choices from Nevermind are featured here, "Polly," and "Something in the Way" of course, but their acoustic rendering of "On a Plain" is both relevatory and surprising, since I would not have expected them to include this song, and what's more it actually works as an acoustic! The classic "Come As You Are" is given more subtlely and emotion here, and that flanged guitar solo sounds positively stunning on an acoustic (actually he was using a half-acoustic/half-electric hybrid). The band also delivers some of the most mature songs from In Utero, too. "Dumb" sounds both blissful and melancholy at the same time, "All Apologies" is one of the highlights here, and "Pennyroyal Tea" stands as one of Kurt's most emotionally naked moments (I actually like the version here better).
Like the Beatles before him, Kurt Cobain had the uncanny ability to take any cover song and make it his own. From Devo to Leadbelly, David Bowie to the Vaselines, Kurt made it sound like all of these songs were his own, and he does this beautifully here as well, especially on their rendition of Bowie's "Man Who Sold the World," and of course, Leadbelly's "Where Did You Sleep Last Night." The latter has to be one of Nirvana's most chilling moments of all time, especially near the close of the song, where Kurt is giving it his all. Then, with an impassioned cry of "SHIVEEERRRRR!" he pauses for a couple of seconds before finishing the line. At this moment, I have to say the silence is deafening and is absolutely haunting in the purest sense of the word. It seems ironic that a band who was known for noisy live performances could rip walls out (and hearts) with two seconds of silence. This, if nothing else, stands as a testament to Nirvana's gifts.
As life affirming as this can be to listen to, sometimes it can also be quite sad knowing that this is ultimately the last word from Nirvana before Kurt's untimely death. But if this was the band's (and Kurt's) swan song, it is certainly the best finale that one can have, and I would certainly want something this beautiful to be my farewell, too. Even ten years later (God, has it been that long already?), Nirvana's Unplugged session remains as fresh as it was at the time, and stands as one of their very best live performances (as well as their most unique). Whether you are a casual fan or a diehard, this album is not to be missed and you are doing yourself a grave injustice if you skip out. This isn't just an Unplugged session, it is an experience.
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5.0 out of 5 stars The best live recording of the 1990s.,
Although Nirvana's studio work was great (particularly In Utero), this live album of November 1993 solidified the band's legend.
The concept behind Unplugged was decidedly unusual. Here was an intense, loud punk band from Seattle playing acoustic. An odd concept indeed, but Cobain, Grohl, and Novoselic were more than up to the task with a beautiful 14-song set. To my knowledge, Nirvana was the first to play an entire Unplugged session in a single take, which makes the quality of the performance all the more remarkable.
Instead of just playing a list of popular hits (as Alice In Chains did in the Unplugged format), Kurt decided to pay homage to the band's indie roots with covers of the Vaselines (Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam), David Bowie (The Man Who Sold The World, featuring the only plugged guitar), and three selections from Meat Puppets II (Plateau, Oh Me, Lake Of Fire). All of these renditions are pure gold, and I consider them superior to the originals.
Their studio work takes on a new dimension without the electric distortion. About A Girl sends shivers up my spine, Come As You Are sounds even more impressive acoustic, Dumb is filled with beautiful stringwork, Pennyroyal Tea becomes a haunting solo ballad, and All Apologies changes from raw to meloncholy. Most of these songs are at least equivalent to the studio versions, with All Apologies being much better than the harsh In Utero version.
The best track of all though is the unforgettable Where Did You Sleep Last Night. In this Leadbelly cover, Kurt lets all the feeling hit home, especially toward the end with his piercing screams. I've never heard a more emotional song in my life, and I always shed a tear listening to it.
This one ranks as the best live album of the 1990's and among the best ever. If you love Nirvana, definitely buy this one. If you never considered buying a Nirvana album, this one will make you a fan. Trust me.
----RIP Kurt----
5.0 out of 5 stars God, how i wish i could've been there...,
Lisandro Pin (Rosario, Santa Fe Argentina) - See all my reviews
This is one of the weridest albums i own, in a way. Nirvana, a band which set the whole grunge scene going, and arguably one of the best in the genre, decided to make a live unplugged show for MTV. Nirvana, you know. Fat distortions, atonal riffs, raging vocals, powerful shows. Nirvana.
That they did *THIS* good is a surprise, and should change more than one peoples' mind about the artistic merits of the band (and Kurt Cobain in particular). Forget what you thought of this Nirvana; the way they morphed their songs (and others too) into mellow accoustic tunes is remarkable, and against all odds, worked great. I mean, my dad, who can't stand 99.9% of grunge, loves this record. It's easy to listen, but not because the songs are cheezy, it's just the complete album is incredibly good.
From start to finish, it transports you first row to this (unique) performance. Like i said, the whole record is excellent, but tracks like "Plateau", "Oh me", "On a plain", "Jesus don't want me for a sunbeam", "Where did you sleep last night?", and "All apologies" are so deeply moving i prefer to listen them by myself, wearing headphones. I can only imagine, closing my eyes, what have it felt to be there.
This is hands down one of the best albums of the 90's, and easily one of the top 10 live recordings of all history. It's hard to say this things without sounding like a fanboy, but the truth is that it simply is. Whatever your musical cup-of-tea is, you deserve to give this record a listen. People argue about how much they like this album - i dare you find someone who doesn't.
5.0 out of 5 stars Nirvana's Best,
Grant McKee (Chicago, IL United States) - See all my reviews
Despite the fact that this came after a string of four succesful and wonderful albums, "Unplugged" will forever remain Nirvana's best effort. In light of Kurt's debilitating depression caused by his sudden rise to fame, this album shines through as the potential for what could have been. If anything, Kurt seems to be in relatively high spirits, cracking a few jokes between songs. His enthusiasm for the set list is clear, with ample cover tunes from artists like David Bowie, The Vaselines, The Meat Puppets, and the masterful closer "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" by Leadbelly. Choosing songs outside of his vocal capabilities ("Plateau" and "Lake of Fire") carry the impression of the absurd comedy of Monty Python. Nirvana had reached the point where they could essentially do what they want. If stardom is a daunting experience, the elation of reaching the point where you're accepted for what you can do and have the opportunity to try new things and expand your sound is a greater payoff than the royalty checks.
Like many others, I can't help but ask "what if?" What if Kurt hadn't killed himself? This record probably would have still sold millions of copies and it might have eased off pressure from labelheads looking for the next "In Utero." I like to think of this as the turning point that never was. Absolutely, hands down, one of the greatest rock records of the 1990s.
5.0 out of 5 stars Nirvana's Best Album!!!,
"zeppelinman5003" (Canada, eh?) - See all my reviews
The whole concept of this album may seem very odd to you: a loud, punk rock band going acoustic, but, trust me. This is an amazing album.
I'll admit, I am a new Nirvana fan. I would have been only about...4 years old when the band made it big. Recently, I stumbled across a few Nirvana songs and really, REALLY, liked them. So, a few days ago I bought the three Nirvana albums, that seemed to be generally regarded as the best: Nevermind, In Utero, and MTV Unplugged in New York (as a side note, the other two are very good also).
I thought their MTV Unplugged Album would be a bit odd, being a punk band after all, but after hearing it was really good I went out and bought it anyway. Boy was I surprised, of the three, this was overall, my favourite album. Sure, Nirvana have better songs than those found on this album (Smells Like Teen Spirit, Lithium and Heart Shaped Box spring to mind), but none of their albums are this good. In fact, I just finished listening to this album 5 minutes ago; that must mean something...I'm raving about it just after I finish it.
You may not agree with me that this is the best Nirvana album; you may not even particularly like Nirvana, but this is an exceptional album, and if you don't already own it, you should.
5.0 out of 5 stars Desert Island music,
Enrique Torres "Rico" (San Diegotitlan, Califas) - See all my reviews
If you skipped over music from the nineties go back and listen to this amazing CD by the quintessential grunge band, Nirvana. The Seatle based band, led by die-in tragic- rock fashion, the nascent Kurt Cobain who lived fast and died young, is at his absoulute best on this collection of accoustic numbers. Beginning with a song from their first record "About a Girl," the stage is set for a hipnotic mood of crowd reverence and interaction. The guttural lyrics of Cobain overshadow his continous left-handed pounding and picking of the guitar but both are top notch. The Vaselines version of the Christian song "Jesus Doesn't Want Me For a Sunbeam" is as far away from church as originally intended as Cobain assumes the pulpit and delivers the sermon sounding like a quiet gunslinger entering the saloon. Equally interesting his Nirvanas interpretation of the David Bowie classic, "The Man Who Sold The World." The song begins with Cobain claiming he will "screw it up" with a band members retort that "it won't be the first time" and then the signature buzz of the bee droning guitar introduction, dadadada; the rest is history as is this performance. Throughout the disc there is alot of chatter amongst the musicians which either indicates nervous tension or anxiety or that they are having a good time. The music on this disc is timeless and compelling from beginning to end with Cobain playing the insecure role and coming out sounding absoulutely great. All your , well not all but many of your favorite Nirvana songs are presented here in a live accoustic setting. Take your pick, "Pennyroyal Tea' featuring excruciating extended angst, " Dumb" which features some lovely cello by Lori Goldston(also on many other tracks), the immediately recognizeable "Polly," the Nirvana classic "All Apologies" with it's simple beat and powerful sound, the Neil Youngesque "Lake of Fire" that features a country twang in Cobains delivery with some riveting guitar licks, "Plateau" with some beautiful accoustic guitar work worked into a diverse vocal range delivery by Cobain and the bittersweet song "Where Did You Sleep Last Night" that is a haunting close to this disc. When Cobain breaks into his final chorus of imploring "where, don't lie to me my girl, where did you sleep last night" it is enough to make you shiver. No wonder Courtney Love is so screwed up. Any rock music collection would be incomplete without this disc. This is essential music from a time in rock when mega hair metal bands were fading and a fresh sound was reflecting and developing a distaste for the old guard. If you missed them the first time around then be sure to catch them now. There is also a DVD that captures this epic performance.
5.0 out of 5 stars The Best Unplugged Performance Ever,
Christian E. Stilp (Wisconsin) - See all my reviews
There is no mistake about everyone giving this album a rating of five stars. This is the most surprising, deep, insightful and soulful performance Nirvana had ever assembled.
The set begins with Cobain's dry sense of humor, coyly commenting "This song's off our first record, most people don't own it" before leading into the origins of Nirvana, "About a Girl". The acoustic element added a tremendous amount of depth and yearning to this song, and it was only the beginning. "Come As You Are" was unearthed like a brand new creation; echoes reverberating magically through the small concert hall. Expectations were high - what could follow this great 1-2 punch opening?
A cover?
Yes, Nirvana was playing a cover in their Unplugged set. The crowd sat silent as Kurt revealed the next song was written by The Vaselines, and the band began a beautiful rendition of "Jesus Doesn't Want Me For a Sunbeam". This song was brought out of nowhere and instantly spread across the world by Cobain's range, Krist Novoselic changing gears and playing the accordian, and the others playing as though this was their song all along.
The assimilation of others' music into Nirvana's repetoire continues with the next track, David Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World". Cobain cheats a bit and distorts his acoustic guitar, but with simple and haunting results. In all honesty, Nirvana's version sounds miles better than the original, and was played (and still is played) on alternative radio stations across the country.
The following quintet returned to Nirvana originals, all performed in the same emotional intensity that doesn't skip a beat anywhere in this performance. Kurt playing solo on "Pennyroyal Tea" is worth the price of this disc alone, with its indescribable power only preceded by his dry humor ("I think I'm going to try it in the normal key, and if it sounds bad... these people are just going to have to wait.") "Polly", "Dumb", "On a Plain" and "Something in the Way" all floored the audience, each sounding like an entirely new song and infinitely improved.
Kurt invited his longtime friends the Kirkwood Brothers, constituents of the band the Meat Puppets. The story goes, Kurt sat his wife Courtney Love down to play some incredible songs for her. He put on the Meat Puppets' originals, and Love loathed how rushed each song felt. Kurt then brought out his guitar and played the songs *his* way, and she was absolutely floored. If you compare the originals to Kurt's covers, you will agree. His essence absolutely floods these three songs, especially the amazing "Oh Me".
In closing, the full Nirvana band returned to play an appropriate and impressive "All Apologies", then one last masterpiece - a cover of Leadbelly's "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?". Cobain hides absolutely nothing and pours every last drop of his trademark vocal strain into this song. The instrumental outro leaves you feeling not only satisfied, but it gently returns you to your day, leaving this transported place that defies all definition, exceeds all expectation, and transcends all time.
The fans cheered for an encore, and Grohl, Novoselic and Smear felt up to it - they went to ask Kurt, and he denied the request; he had nothing left to give. After listening to this disc, you have nothing to do but agree.
And one last tidbit - this performance was all recorded in one take. Another legacy of Nirvana's unimaginable talent.
5.0 out of 5 stars The passion of Nirvana,
newfound32 (los angeles ca) - See all my reviews
Nirvana has 4 albums recorded. And in those albums there are emotional songs, songs that need to be remade in unplugged version. This concert was token place in November of 1994. It is the best unplugged performance I would say. Even not so big of Nirvana fans would say this is an amazing cd. This album has great quality for a performance. But Nirvana didn't really moved around much like the "from the muddy bands of Wishka" performance. Which you should buy in addition to this cd.
There are some songs they should have performed though that would have been great like "Lithium" and "Heart Shaped Box". But they still performed awesome songs like "come as you are", which sounds amazing unplugged, "something in the way", and "All Apologies". All apologies is my favorite song out of this album. Along with come as you are. I also loved the song "plateau", which is an original song that is not on any nirvana album.
I really enjoyed this album. If you like soft center music, like the Beatles, you will definitely just love this album. I think this is one of Nirvanas best album. It is very sensational and very different from the grunge era. This album was recorded 11 years ago, and people including me, still enjoy listening to this record. Ten years without Kurt, it just isn't the same. May Kurt Donald Cobain R.I.P
5.0 out of 5 stars A perfect ending,
The archduke (Tokyo, Japan) - See all my reviews
Many people were surprised by the release of Nirvana's beautiful "Unplugged" sessions, because it became apparent, perhaps for the first time, how good this band really was. Kurt Cobain showed the true passion with which he sang, and he showed he was not only able to scream through pain.
The songs here speak volumes, as this was the last recording made before Cobain killed himself in 1994. There is the beauty of "All Apologies", the irony of "Come As You Are" and "Jesus Don't Want Me for a Sunbeam" and the great covers of the Meat Puppets songs "Lake of Fire" and "Plateau". But the two best songs here are also covers. The unbelievable tenderness of "Oh Me" and the fiery passion of "Where Did You Sleep Last Night" make this album something that is begging to be heard. It was as though Cobain already knew this was the end, singing the final song of the set with as much intensity as he had created over his entire career, his voice cracking and him needing to take extended breaths just to keep up with himself. It is this final song, a cover from Ledbelly, that Cobain says his goodbye to the world, looking up at the audience with his bright blue eyes, us seeing his immense pain one more time, before he screamed out "My girl, my girl, tell me where did you sleep last night?" Watching and hearing this for the first time, I realized that I was seeing an important moment in rock history, and this hold true today, perhaps even moreso because of the way his life ended shortly thereafter.
"Unplugged in New York" is an absolute must for Nirvana fans, and even those who are not. This album shows a new side to the band, one that can be soft, as well as being hard as usual.
5.0 out of 5 stars The sensitive side of Kurt Cobain,
Ilya Malafeyev (Russia) - See all my reviews
Yes, I felt the emotional side of Kurt Cobain's creativity on their previous efforts. But this live recording struck me with its romantic, dark melancholy. Something that I wouldn't normally expect from the band that put out many rather aggressive songs with muddy sound. I felt amazed at the depth and variety of Kurt's talent, and at the sad beauty of the tracks here. Every track has a distinctive sound to it, be it a Nirvana's song or a cover song, which there are many on this album. For some unknown reason, that's the cover songs that I love best on this record. Not to say that Nirvana's material is in any sense inferior, but it definitely lacks melodism, present in such tracks as "Man Who SOld the World", "Lake of Fire" and "Where Did You Sleep Last Night". The acoustic arrangements, with such instruments as cello and accordeon, only adds to this atmosphere.
Although I'm not a big fan of Nirvana, this is one of the best CDs in my vast collection, and I find myself listening to it regularly. Highly recommended purchase.
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[0001] The present invention relates generally to computer programming and more particularly to an object class for facilitating conversion between Java and XML.
[0002] Java is a programming language that is object oriented and provides platform independence. (Java is a trademark of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and in other countries). As an object-oriented language, Java supports the notion of an "object class." An object class describes a group of objects with similar properties, behavior, common relationships to other objects and, semantics. An "object" is an instance of an object class. Each object may encapsulate both methods and data.
[0003] The Extensible Markup Language (XML) is a markup language for documents containing structured information. Structured information contains both content and some indication of the role that the content plays. XML facilitates the specification of structures in a document. In particular, XML defines a standard way to add markup to documents. Like the Hyper Text Markup Language (HTML), XML employs tags. An example of a tag is "<home address>," which designates that the data following the tag is home address information for a person. XML differs from HTML in that the tags are only used to delimit pieces of data. The interpretation given to the tags and to the data is left up to the application that processes the XML document.
[0004] XML and Java are both popular for use in network applications. For example, web pages and other kinds of content that are available via network applications may entail the use of both Java and XML. As such, it often may be desirable to convert between Java and XML. Unfortunately, developers currently are required to generate custom applications to perform this conversion. This approach is time-consuming, prone to error, and laborious.
[0005] The present invention addresses the above-described limitations of conventional systems. In particular, the present invention provides a conveniently used mechanism for converting from Java to XML and then back from XML to Java. The mechanism is generalizable enough to support the conversion of many different varieties of Java objects into XML and many different varieties of XML structures into Java objects.
[0006] In an illustrative embodiment of the present invention, a base class is defined that includes conversion methods. A first conversion method converts Java into XML, and a second conversion method converts XML into Java. A selected object class may then be declared that is a subclass of the base class containing the conversion methods and that extends the base class. Thus, the conversion method merely needs to be invoked in order to perform the conversion of an object of the selected object class.
[0007] In accordance with one aspect of the present invention, a method is practiced in an electronic device. In accordance with this method, a base object class is provided that includes at least one method for converting between Java objects and XML data objects. A selected object class is provided that is a subclass of the base object class. For a given instance of the selected object class, the methods invoked perform the conversion of the given instance.
[0008] In accordance with an additional aspect of the present invention, a method is practiced in an electronic device where a base object class is provided. The base object class includes at least one method for converting Java objects and XML data objects. The first object class is defined as a sub-class of the base object class as is a second object class. The method for converting may be invoked for an instance of the first object class and/or an instance of the second object class. The method may convert a Java object in XML or conversely an XML document into Java.
[0009] An illustrative embodiment of the present invention will be described below relative to the following drawings FIG. 1 depicts the flow of conversion between Java and XML in the illustrative embodiment.
[0010]FIG. 2 is a block diagram of an electronic device suitable for practicing the illustrative embodiment.
[0011]FIG. 3 is a high-level flow chart of steps performed by the to XmlDoc( ) method.
[0012]FIG. 4 is a high-level flow chart of steps performed by the from XmlDoc( ) method.
[0013]FIG. 5 is a flow chart of steps performed in processing nodes in the from XmlDoc( ) method.
[0014] The illustrative embodiment of the present invention provides a base object class designated as "XmlBase." The XmlBase object class contains methods for converting from Java to XML and then back from XML to Java. In order for an object to utilize the capabilities of the XmlBase object class, the object is defined to be of an object class that is a subclass of the XmlBase object class. The subclass extends the XmlBase object class. The methods for converting between Java and XML may then be executed on the object.
[0015]FIG. 1 is a block diagram that illustrates the conversion paths that are available between Java and XML in the illustrative embodiment of the present invention. A Java object 10 may be converted into XML 14 by invoking the to XmlDoc( ) method 12. This method, as will be described in more detail below, takes a Java object and converts the Java object into structured data in an XML document. The XML document 14 may then be converted back into a Java object 10 by invoking the from XmlDoc( ) method 16.
[0016] As was mentioned above, the Java object 10 is of an object class that is a subclass of the XmlBase object class. As such, the Java object inherits the methods of the XmlBase object class. These methods include the to XmlDoc( ) method 12 and the from XmlDoc( ) method 16. The object class of the object may be defined to extend the XmlBase object class. For example, suppose that an object is of object class A. In such a case, the object class definition for object class A might contain the statement "public class A extends XmlBase."
[0017]FIG. 2 shows a block diagram of an electronic device 20 that may be suitable for practicing the illustrative embodiment of the present invention. Those skilled in the art will appreciate that the electronic device 20 may take many forms including but not limited to a workstation, a personal computer, a network computer, an Internet appliance, a personal digital assistant ("PDA"), a mobile phone, an intelligent pager or another type of electronic device that is capable of understanding Java and XML. Those skilled in the art will also appreciate that the configuration shown in FIG. 2 is intended to be merely illustrative and not limiting of the present invention. The present invention may be practiced with different configurations that do not include all the peripheral devices depicted in FIG. 2.
[0018] The electronic device 20 of FIG. 2 includes a microprocessor 22. Those skilled in the art will appreciate that the electronic device 20 may in some embodiments include multiple microprocessors. The electronic device 20 further includes a video display 24, a keyboard 26 and a pointing device 28, such as a mouse. The electronic device 20 may include a network interface 30 for interfacing with a local area network (LAN) and a modem 32 for facilitating access to remote resources. The modem 32 may be of a variety of types, such as a wireless modem, a conventional telephone modem or a cable modem.
[0019] The electronic device 20 includes storage 34 that may include both primary memory and secondary memory. The storage 34 may include computer-readable media and may include removable media, such as a magnetic disk or an optical disk. The storage 34 holds a Java compiler 36 for compiling Java code into byte codes that may be executed by a Java virtual machine (VM) 38. The storage 34 may include a multitude of Java objects 40, including a definition for the XmlBase object class 42. The storage additionally includes an XML interpreter 44 and one or more XML documents 46. The storage may include an operating system 48, such as the Solaris operating system available from Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lastly, the storage 34 may include a helper section of code 50 that helps to parse XML and to perform other helpful functions.
[0020] An "interface" is a named set of logically related functions. An interface lists signatures, such as parameters and sets of methods. The interface does not provide code for implementing the functions; rather, the code for implementing the functions is provided by objects. An object that provides the code for implementing the functions of an interface is said to "support" the interface. The code provided by an object that supports an interface must comply with the signatures provided within the interface.
[0021] Java interfaces and classes may be grouped into packages. Sun Microsystems, Inc. has developed and made commercially available a number of different packages. These packages include but are not limited to the java.lang package that contains basic Java classes, the java.io package that provides classes to manage input and output streams and the java.util package that contains a number of utility classes. The illustrative embodiment will be described relative to an implementation wherein the XmlBase object class imports these packages.
[0022] The illustrative embodiment also utilizes "reflection" technology from Sun Microsystems, Inc. The reflection technology facilitates the interrogation of Java objects to obtain information regarding the objects, such as methods, fields and the like that are contained in the object.
[0023]FIG. 3 is a flow chart illustrating at a high level the steps that are performed by the to XmlDoc( ) method in the illustrative embodiment. The method initially creates a StringBuffer object class (step 60 in FIG. 3). The StringBuffer object class is defined as part of the java.lang package and implements a mutable sequence of characters. More informally, it provides a buffer for holding strings. A StringBuffer may be created by calling a constructor method that is defined as part of the StringBuffer object class. By definition, the StringBuffer provides an append method that allows characters to be appended to the StringBuffer. The StringBuffer is used to hold characters from the Java object that is being converted and to hold tags and other information for creating a properly formatted XML document.
[0024] The to XmlDoc( ) method then fills the StringBuffer with the characters extracted from the Java object (step 62 in FIG. 3). In particular, the to XmlDoc( ) method parses the contents of the Java object to identify constituent components, such as methods, object classes, fields and the like. XML tags are inserted into the buffer at the appropriate locations so that proper structure is created. Tags to designate the beginning of the XML document and the end of the XML document are also inserted in sequence.
[0025] As was mentioned above, the to XmlDoc( ) method is applied on a per object basis. The processing initially obtains the object class of the Java object. An appropriate tag is provided to designate the object class in the XML document by adding the tag to the StringBuffer. Methods, fields, and other components in the object are then systematically and iteratively located by processing the object on a line per line basis. The reflection API contains methods for obtaining the name, type, arguments, and values of the components. These are used to extract the information that is added to the StringBuffer. Non-string values are converted into strings before being added to the StringBuffer. The appropriate tags are inserted where needed for each component. The tag is the name of the component.
[0026] A StringReader is then constructed (step 64 in FIG. 3). The StringReader is of the StringReader object class that is defined as part of the java.io package. The StringReader is an object that is a character stream whose source is a string. The StringReader is used to extract or "read" the data out of the StringBuffer.
[0027] An XML document is created by invoking the createXmlDocument( ) method (step 66 in FIG. 3). The java.lang package includes an XmlDocument object class. This object class includes the createXmlDocument( ) method that constructs an XML document from data in a specified input source. In the illustrative embodiment, the input source is specified as the StringReader that was created in step 64. Hence, in step 68 in FIG. 3, the XML document is filled using the StringReader. The resulting XML document is returned as the converted document holding the XML version of the Java object.
[0028] The createXmlDocument( ) method produces an XML document object of the XmlDocument object class. The XML document object class provides a document that complies with document object model (DOM). The DOM represents a document as a tree of nodes with each node containing a component for the XML structure. The nodes may contain elements (which are units of XML data delimited by tags) or text. The XmlDocument object class provides a static factory to create document instances and provides interfaces for traversing the tree. Instances represent the top level of an XML version 1.0 document.
[0029] The createXmlDocument( ) method creates an XmlDocument object that represents the XML document as a sequence of nodes, consistent with DOM. Thus, the input source to this method is parsed to build nodes as needed to complete the DOM representation.
[0030] The illustrative embodiment also imports the org.w3c.dom package. The package includes a document interface for representing an HTML or XML document. Among the methods specified in the interface in the getDocumentElement( ) method, which returns a document element property.
[0031] The org.w3c.dom package includes the node interface. The node interface is the primary data type for the entire document object model and represents a single node in a document tree. This interface specifies the getChildNodes( ) method. This method returns a node list that contains all the children of the node.
[0032]FIG. 4 provides a high-level flow chart of steps performed by the from XmlDoc( ) method. As was mentioned above, this method converts an XML document created by the to XmlDoc( ) method into a Java object. Initially, child nodes of the document root node in the XML document are obtained (step 80 in FIG. 4). It is likely that one of these child nodes holds information regarding the object class associated with the XML document. In the illustrative embodiment, it is presumed that the XML document was created by converting a Java object. Thus, in step 82, the class of the object is located. The nodes are then processed (step 84 in FIG. 4). In particular, the nodes on the node list that form the XML document are processed. The processing converts the nodes into an appropriate Java object. The resulting Java object that is created by processing all of the nodes is then returned (step 86 in FIG. 4).
[0033]FIG. 5 provides a flow chart of how the nodes are processed at a high level. Initially, nodes are processed individually and a check may be determined whether there are any nodes left to be processed (step 90 in FIG. 5). If there are nodes left to processed the next node is obtained (step 92 in FIG. 5). The name of the node is accessed by extracting information from the tag that is provided for the node (step 94 in FIG. 5). A get method and a set method for setting the named node are then sought (step 96 in FIG. 5). This approach assumes that each object associated with the node has an associated get method and set method.
[0034] From the gathered information, the node is processed. In particular, the fields that are located within the node are identified and converted into the appropriate Java statements. Other methods and objects are also processed to determine their type and develop the appropriate Java syntax. All of this information is encapsulated into an object that is available and eventually encapsulated into the Java object that is returned by from XmlDoc( ) (step 98 in FIG. 5).
[0035] The from XmlDoc( ) method exploits the XML document complying with DOM. In particular, the method walks the node list and processes nodes individually. The helper code 50 may be used to parse XML tags and other content. The method identifies the type of information contained in the node and creates the appropriate Java statement. The objects associated with a node may be of many different data types and these data types are identified.
[0036] While the present invention has been described with reference to an illustrative embodiment thereof, those skilled in the art will appreciate that various changes in form and detail may be made without departing from the intended scope of the present invention as defined in the appended claims.
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I was practicing in grey scale, let me know what you think.
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Awesome stuff, Good forms and expression
The small texture in the hair doesnt really fit, And also perhaps it would be better without those dark outlines.
But hey, thats probably just me!
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December 5th, 2011 #3
I think you did a decent job here, I like how soft you got the shading to be. I also think your edges need a lot of work though. First off, remove the black lines. Watch the 2 recent videos here. The only black you need is in the pupils. Speaking of, why do the pupils have a bright light in the center of them?
your highlights are to hard-edged and your reflected light is too bright, making her skin look like plastic. Also her nose doesn't seem to be lit the same as the rest of her face. This could be personal preference, but I find the cross hatching in her hair distracting and it doesn't help the form.
It would be very helpful for us if you would post the reference you're working from. I did a quick paintover to show what I'm talking about. There's a bunch of flaws in mine since I'm not great at painting, but hopefully you can see what I mean.
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December 5th, 2011 #4
http://artgerm.deviantart.com/galler...set=0#/d4avpe8 I've been really interested in the comic book line art combined with painting. Also this is the reference I was using: http://browse.deviantart.com/resourc...rait/#/d4h1j7n
Also thanks for the links, while they don't really apply to what I wanted to do it IS a really good site to have in my bookmarks.
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December 5th, 2011 #5
Oh, I see. If that's the style you want then go for it, it looks great! Just note that the lines in that piece are REALLY THIN compared to the mass and they are colored similarly to the body rather than being pure black. Color and pure black tend to look awful together, if you color in your line art you should color the lines too. Or in this case, make them a bit lighter.
And after looking at you ref, I noticed your model is actually back-lit. The light you painted implied a source from above and to the right. Your model's face is being lit by ambient light from the atmosphere, which is going to be weaker than direct sunlight. Her face is all middle to sorta high values, you shouldn't be using pure white anywhere on her face.
If this were an illustration or creative piece, you would of course modify your reference to fit the piece and possibly make up your own lighting. But this is a study, and your goal here is to perfectly duplicate the quality you've set out to study and learn from it. From what I can tell this quality is value, but perhaps you had a different goal in mind?
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Good start. Now focus on lighting and anatomy.
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Good start!
A few things that stand out to me (I hope the wording is clear):
-Her right brow (our left) sticks out too much. In the photo that who edge along her forehead is a vertical line, where it is angled in your drawing.
-Her left eyebrow is wandering a little far to the viewer's right.
-The edge between her hair and left side of her forehead I feel should be brought to the viewer's left a bit.
-In the photo the viewer is looking up at her face a little bit, in your drawing it feels like the viewer is looking straight on.
I've attached an animated gif showing the first three changes i mentioned. I hope this is helpful! Keep going!
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UNIONDALE, NY - JANUARY 12: Mark Streit #2 of the New York Islanders moves the puck during the game against the Detroit Red Wings at the Nassau Coliseum on January 12, 2010 in Uniondale, New York. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)
New York Islanders captain Mark Streit and Montreal Canadiens defenseman Yannick Weber are returning home to play in Switzerland during the NHL lockout. Bern says it has signed Streit and Geneva-Servette says it recruited Weber. Geneva-Servette coach Chris McSorley says the club expects to announce another signing on Wednesday. San Jose Sharks captain Joe Thornton is also expected in Switzerland this week after saying he would rejoin Davos. Thornton played with the Alpine town team during the 2004-05 NHL lockout season, alongside New York Rangers winger Rick Nash. Nash is also being pursued by Davos. The NHL formally locked out its players on Sunday after the collective bargaining agreement expired. The 12-team Swiss top division began its season last week.
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The shop re-mapped it with the Akropovic map from KTM. First impressions - the map is the best part of it. Seems to have removed the partial throttle hunting (no doubt due to leaness) and overall, the bike seems smoother, with less vibes.
Its also running cooler and my ankle isn't getting hot like it did with the stock pipe. I don't think its changed the power characteristics, the bottom is still not as strong as I would like but completely removing the airbox cover seems to be the only way to improve that.
And what about sound levels? I'm glad you asked. Idling its a bit gruffer than the stock pipe but actual dB I would say no difference. On a steady throttle it might even be quieter than stock. However, getting on it is definitely louder and the top end is a dB level I'm not super comfortable with but its not Harley obnoxious. You can definitely sneak through your sub-division without pissing off the neighbors. I might have a buddy of mine machine up a quieter insert even so. The loudest noise was on trailing throttle and the turbulence from the messed up turn signal - this pipe is moving a lot more air than the stock one.
One last thing I noticed was a noticeable change in weight. Now this is just seat of the pants and I'm hesitant to jump to a conclusion but my gut feeling is a lighter bike, with a more balanced feel. YMMV
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Name's Joe, I live in Sydney Australia. I have 2 bikes, a trusty 88 Honda Bros 650 (Penske Rear shock + GP Suspension built F3 CBR600 Forks) and an 04 CBR600RR.
I am going to the 2013 Isle of Man TT.
Anyway, onto the Questions...
Anyone here going? Also, who has already been? What advice can you give around accommodation for the TT? What's camping like? I'm trying to book accommodation through the 'official' IOMTT Travel Agency (regency travel) and I get the feeling I really don't rate terribly highly in their list of priorities. All their packages have pretty much sold out, and I'm trying to get some solid information and prices but have yet to get any. They probably have people falling over themselves to secure a place at any price, so I guess I'll probably miss out.
I've also had a chat with Sportsnet Holidays (here in Melbourne), they've quoted $8,484 for the package they're offering. That's outside of my price range, considering I'm kicking off 5 months travelling in Europe afterwards.
Can anyone tell me what my options are on the cheaper end? What's it like camping around that time? Will I be freezing my balls off, wet & miserable? Plus, I want to stay somewhere close to a pub - don't want to have to walk 5 miles from the camping ground to the bar if I can help it. The walk back, well, gonna have my beer coat so I won't care... ;D
If I want to really experience the atmosphere, is Douglas the place I must stay? What about Ramsey, or the other towns?
Anyway, I thought I'd ask as, I get the feeling if I rely on Regency, I'm going to miss out. And fair enough, I mean their priority is serving customers who are right there, throwing money at 'em. I'm in Australia, and gotta do business by email.
Any help anyone can give would be so appreciated. Hopefully, I might bump into a few of you over there :)
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I too have been researching a trip to the TT. I will be going in 2015, since that will be the first year when the race is scheduled late enough to get away from work.
I found a couple of camping options:
http://www.glenloughcampsite.com/ - Sounds like it isn't too close to pubs, but does have shuttle bus service.
http://www.biketours-uk.com/catman/s...6/86/index.cms - This one is a package deal, including ferry ticket, camping, and BBQ, for around £ 550. It really sounds like fun to me. Once again, its about 3 km from Douglas, and would require shuttle bus, but it sounds like a party is onsite.
Then there are the bed and breakfast options. I like this one, because they do enduro tours of the "green lanes". I'm unclear if the bikes are included or not.
If you do any of these, I hope you'll post a review. Good luck!
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I had a look over Biketours UK's site, the guy sounds like a champ! He sounds like a lot of fun, really down to earth and I'm quite curious about his other tours as well. I am reckon the kind of people his package will attract will be a riot too. I can't imagine too many boring nights around the camp, nor any boring sessions at the pub
I sent him an email, hopefully he's still got some spots left for TT13. His gig sounds exactly like the sort of thing I want.
The Clagmoar thing looks good, but I don't think they provide bikes with it. There wasn't any mention of it, and it seemed to assume you'd be bringing your own. I'll be riding a sports bike, so enduro won't really work. If I were riding an enduro bike, I'd be really interested though. Maybe that'll have to be 2014...
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. Biketours UK looks like an absolute winner
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Just an update on this - I'm booked in for the Bike Tours UK Isle of Man 2013 trip, and I'm enquiring about the French Alps trip shortly afterwards: http://www.biketours-uk.com/catman/view/1/487/index.cms
I spoke to an Aussie guy who'd just come back from the IOM TT tour with Bill, and said it was a lot of fun, and he met a great group of people and riders. The tours are not for people who want their hand held, but for those who appreciate all the crucial things being taken care of and don't like being suffocated. Bill takes exceptional care of everyone, and works very hard to make the time as hassle free and enjoyable as possible, but he also allows a good bit of space to breathe and do your own thing when you feel like it.
I'm really looking forward to it, and personally can't wait
Now I just need to decide on what bike I'll be buying....
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: BRISBANE AUSTRALIA
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Hey Joes you are in for a great time.
I shipped my strom across in 2011 and spent both practice and race week there. Was fantastic and something I would defineatly love to do again. check out the home stay options on the TT website. we scored a luxurious room in a massion overlooking douglas bay for 30 pounds a night including brekky.
The weather can be dodgy at anytime. Remember its a tiny island in the North sea. If you havnt already booked your ferry crossing you may have missed out. keep an eye on the Steampacket website daily as booking often become available due to cancellations.
If your interested check out my blog of the trip here.
Cant help with camping options except to say that everyone looked like they were having a great time at the couple of campsites we checked out.
You must have a crab bap at Peel.
Do laps of the circuit early in the day to scope out spectator points.
If you have any specific questions let me know and I will try and answwr.
Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Sterling, Virginia, USA
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I recommend against the Alps tour - it will spoil you for all other roads.
When I get back home after two or three weeks in the Alps, I don't even look at my bike for a month.
A good source of info is the Alpine Roads website.
Michael J. - IBA #3901
Ten years in the Alps (so far)
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Hi, Apologies for this tardy response (and my maiden post). I visit the Isle of Man every year, it's the greatest bike fest on Earth! When alone I camp or Homestay, when with partner I spoil her in a hotel. For what it's worth:
1: Don't worry about the ferry being booked up; tour companies block book 2 years in advance, taking all available places, then cancel unsold ones in March. Ring the Steam Packet Co up first thing on Monday 1st April and I betcha you'll get what you want. It depends on the previous year's weather and as last year was the worst in the history of the TT, bookings should be a bit thinner this coming year.
2: Homestays are excellent value and some folk really strike lucky, but they can also be a gamble. Best if you can find a contact for a personal recommendation.
3: Campsites are an even bigger gamble and you can sign up for a fortnight's utter misery. Michael United AFC & Nobles Park have a rep for partying and rowdiness (I realise this may be what you're looking for!), Glen Wyllin is where the Manx parents park their teenage children for that fortnight. Cronk Aashen Farm is quite strictly run but this suits me. I've also heard of a small site with a good rep on the outskirts of Ramsey.
4: Consider buying a bike in the UK this winter - you'd get a cracking bargain and probably sell it for more post-TT! A surprising number of visitors do this.
5: DON'T RIDE LIKE THE ADVANCED RIDER YOU ARE!! The middle of the road is reserved for the German lunatics and they will come at you from both directions at 160+mph. Every year brings its fatalities; its a serious business. But, the coppers make the mountain section one way, so you can cheerfully use the whole road - no matter how good you think you are, someone will come past at 20mph more!
6: If you can't get a ferry booking from Heacham or Liverpool, consider riding around to Stranraer, crossing to N.Ireland, then ride down to Belfast and cross from there. It's only £40 more and a great ride.
7: Consider posting your camping kit or buying cheap serviceable gear on the Island and leaving it, Glastonbury style. Most campsites have a barn full of abandond kit.
8: If I can help try me on email@example.com
9: Don't get caught speeding. The fines are off the scale - 2 years ago I did 42 in a 40 and they hit me for £185. A fellow camper was hit for £2400!!
Finally, I wouldn't use any agency for this + you don't need to stay in Douglas - every town has it's own personality and they're all awash with like-minded bikers
Tone (Trixy is the bike - so don't get excited)
Trixy screwed with this post 10-12-2012 at 05:48 AM Reason: re-read 1st response!
Studly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Northern Ireland
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ill be at TT 2013.
just wanted to point out that the biketours uk campsite is in fact glennlough which you also posted a link to.
homestays are a fucking rip off. one night is the same price as a week camping. and camping is where all the craic is id hardly bother going if i had to stay in a house and miss the fun. Homestay is £25-40 a night and glennlough is like £7 a night.
glennlough is awesome good facilities and it is the biggest campsite on the island. glennlough is kind of a campsite for people who like to party. if your boring go somewhere else! has a big tent with bands at night and bring your own booze, and a cafe on site. its right on the track and shuttle bus to douglas runs every 10mins approx from early morn to late night. the bus costs £2. no hassle. i head to a different pub every night in douglas. there is also a nearby pub but its kinda out on its own.
does that biketoursuk guy lend you a bike? if not i cant see what he is charging you so much for.
'06 CBR1000RR Fireblade and loads of small 2 strokes!
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Oddometer: 97
thanks mate!! What an awesome reply, thankyou!
1. Ferry tickets are sorted by Bill - that's part of the package :)
2. Yeah, gonna camp, that's where all the action will be
3. Done Cadets in boarding school, 2 weeks out in the bush with nothing but what you have in your pack. Slept on the ground on a plastic sheet with a 'hutchie' (small plastic tarp thing) pitched over me. Had it rain 2 nights, and felt the water running under and around me while I wait, and wait, and wait for bloody ages for the first light of dawn to let me know the hell is over. (learned very clearly why the troop leader drilled into us the need for digging a drainage channel around where we slept!)
4. I'd love to buy a bike, but it's turning out to be a nightmare? For an Aussie guy, I need insurance, and I can't get insurance unless I'm a resident/citizen. Do you know any way as an Aussie I can buy a bike? I'm so damn keen to buy one of those Isle of Man Edition K7 Gixxers...
5. Yeah, I've heard about the Germans, and I've been thoroughly warned about the fatalities and don't intend to be one. I've had my narrow brush with death and spent 2 years and a shitload of money recovering, so the Germans can have their insanity all to themselves. I plan to ride the course at least once though, fingers crossed I don't get taken out by some fckwit...
6. Thanks, that's a damn good suggestion. If I didn't have my ticket already booked I'd do that instead. I love taking out of the way places and long ways round...
9. Holy SH!T. OK, so, just to repeat that, don't get caught speeding? So if I *am* speeding, just make sure I don't stop yeah? lol.
I hear ya. The main reason I'm using Bike Tours UK because Bill's been recommended by quite a few trustworthy bikers and he's been unreasonably helpful before I've given him any money. He's really gone out of this way and spent a lot of time communicating. Given it's my first time 500 quid is not much to pay for having all the ferry tickets, camping supplies, camp site, etc etc taken care of. Once I get a good feel for the place I'll probably do it myself but I'm trading money for time + inconvenience + hassle. Plus, it's gonna be good going with a group, it makes things a fair bit easier. Also Bill has a shed full of abandoned camping gear I can take my pick of, so that's simplified the camping supplies consideration.
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Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Oddometer: 97
As for why Bill @ Bike Tours UK, see my reply above ;-)
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Comfortably Numb
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: lower main land, canada
Oddometer: 465
Going again
Went in 2010, loved it!
Stayed in Douglas ( kinda a hotel on the prom), and traveled the island
Woke up this morning and decided to go again, everything sure books up fast. I am planing ( would like to be ) June 2nd/3rd to 7th/8th or something like that.
In 2010 it was raining sideways on a bunch of days.... not overly excited about camping.
So if any one has some lines on accommodation ( 1 person ) , sure would like to hear
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Oddometer: 97
My only concern is somewhere to string it up? What if the campsite doesn't have suitable trees? Or where everyone else is camping is like 300m away from where a suitable bunch of trees can be found? I'd be nigel no friends way off the side somewhere...
Still, beats trying to go to sleep wet, cold, and miserable.
Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.
Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: lower main land, canada
Oddometer: 465
I have a H hammock tent, but I can't remember seeing a spot that I could have used it.
My take on it is that a free standing tent would be a better choice.
Easy, and has a bit more room to stash your stuff
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: Sydney, Australia
Oddometer: 97
Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.
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