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Sliding Scale of Robot Intelligence
In fiction, it's surprisingly easy to create AIs, and their resulting morality is disturbingly random. However, you can depend on all AIs, Robots, and Androids presented in fiction having a range of levels of intelligence between Brick, Human, or God. These are the five typical levels, though machine intelligences between these five grades are common:
- Brick: An automatic tool. Its intelligence is on a similar level to your average toaster.
- Robo-Monkeys: Cute and intuitive, act just like animals. That is to say, clever and surprisingly instinctual.
- Average Joe Android: Very good memories and math skills, but usually lack interpersonal skills, creativity and/or emotion.
- Nobel-Bot: Just like Joe Android, but with a superior intellect capable of cracking most scientific problems in picoseconds. Basically an Above Average Joe robot.
- Deus Est Machina: The god AIs will be so far advanced that scaling them would be futile, but they usually have grades between each other, and may even still puzzle at What Is This Thing You Call Love?.
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- Armitage III: The entry in Ridiculously Human Robots states: "The androids from Armitage III are actually ranked according to how human they are. 'Firsts' are basically non-human robots, 'Seconds' are androids, and the 'Thirds' are so close to humans, they can get pregnant." Fourths are some sort of really odd plant-like creatures intended to be a sentient species all on their own, although they seem to be lacking identifiable humanoid intelligence.
- In Mahou Sensei Negima!!, Chachamaru is a more or less average human-intelligence type robot with notable hacking skills, memory, and computing speed. Her master Evangeline has other robotic servants, most of whom seem to fall between brick and human levels; they appear to have a certain level of self awareness, but not nearly to Chachamaru's degree.
- It's mentioned every once in a while that this is because her "sisters" are pure robots, while she is a science/magic hybrid. Not to mention that her purely magic counterpart, the animated puppet Chachazero, can't even function if there isn't enough magic.
- Subverted in Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. The Ridiculously Human Robots that appear are all non-sentient, and easily befuddled by the spider-like Tachikoma think-tanks. The Tachikoma discuss this, noting that humans would be intimidated by androids with human intelligence but are much more accepting of non-humanoid adorable robots like themselves having sentience.
- And in the original manga and movie there is the Codename 2501, a.k.a. Puppetmaster, who started out as a Brick with capability to learn, and became what is described in the final volume of the manga as an information god. In the aforementioned final volume, Man-Machine Interface, the semi-AI descendants of the Puppetmaster-Major-fusion briefly plan turning every human with cybernetic implants on Earth into offshoots of themselves, but instead opt to create even higher forms of artificial consciousness. It's implied at the end that the age of machine gods is coming fast.
- Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha uses varying levels of robot intelligence. Gadget Drones are of Brick-level intelligence and are mowed down by the dozens. Storage Devices also have Brick-level intelligence. Intelligent and Armed Devices are somewhere between Brick and Human, capable of creating their own opinions and having conversations with their users but not to the level of humans. Finally, there's the Wolkenritter and Unison Devices that are Human level and pretty much considered as fellow humans by other characters. In one of the Opening Narrations, Vita, one of the Wolkenritter, idly wonders if she and the other Wolkenritter were nothing more than weapons like the Brick-level Cradle they're facing before they met Hayate and gained human-like emotions and personalities.
- Sword Art Online has Yui who started out as a level 2 before she fully reactivated, at which point she powerleveled to level 4 - possibly level 5 if we consider her administrator-level access to the game world.
- In Fall Out Toy Works, Tiffany and Mr. Moth are somewhere between Average Joe Robot and Nobel-bot, Crybaby and some of Baron's suitwearing Mecha-Mooks are Average Joe Robots, and the rest of Toymaker's creations and Baron's Mecha-Mooks are Bricks.
- There are several different types of robots in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series.
- Swatbots and Badniks are of the Brick category, always taking orders from Robotnik/Eggman and stricly attack fodder against characters like Sonic.
- Robians (Mobians turned into robots) fall into the Brick or Average Joe Android; The former when they were under Robotnik's control and the latter when they were rescued by the Freedom Fighters. Sonic's dad is now the only robian who was not turned back to normal due to his past war injuries.
- Nicole, Sally's personal mini-computer, falls under the Nobel-bot and Deus Est Machina category. Her main role involves hacking machines, downloading vital information, and computer interface. She also has a mild sense of humor. It wasn't until an electrical accident switched her and Sally consciousness; Nicole's brief time in the fur/flesh inspired her to experiment on emotions and a new body, leading her to be in the latter.
- Subverted by DC Comics' Kryptonian robots, which have a certain level of intelligence and independence, but are usually still portrayed as mere servant machines. The Elseworlds story Superman: Last Son of Earth even equips one of Jor-El's robots with a heavy dose of sarcasm. Basically, Batman's Alfred in robot form.
- Not to say there aren't exceptions. When Brainiac is a robot instead of an alien, he's typically tied into Krypton's backstory as the primary AI that ran things(and easily a Deus Est Machina). He was partially responsible for its destruction by concealing the severity of the problem until it was too late.
- Averted in Marvel's Nextwave with Aaron Stack, a.k.a. the Machine Man. Stack loves talking about how superior he is to fleshy ones, but never (quite) claims to be god-like. (Everyone else, however, can agree he is total ☠☠☠☠.)
- Until relatively recently he was more of a Nobel-Bot, similar to Data from Star Trek or Pinnochio. His recent personality shift was caused by a series of personal traumas and an alien abduction that resulted in a (really quite human) emotional breakdown.
- Note that he is the most sophisticated of the X model robots; Robots X-1 through X-50 are even more crude and abrasive.
- Averted by Victor Mancha of Runaways, who seems to be slightly more intelligent than your average teenager.
- This is something that Headscratchers: he is a cyborg (unless he's more of a Terminator).
- The italian sci-fi comic Nathan Never has mainly "brick" to "average joe" robots, some of latters with pretty human aspirations - desires; like having a girlfriend or going to the pub with some friends. A focal point of the stories where robots are protagonists is that, for AIs to truly grow "human", they have to be set free - in some way - from the "Three Laws".
- The series uses also a very interesting take at the "ridicolously human robot" concept: the first generation of autonomous androids was built without the "three laws" - relying on a distinct set of security limiters - and ended having almost completely "human" minds, so humans that they started strikes in order to obtain paychecks, holydays and respect for their rights. All the owners, then, sued the company that made them, that as a consequency went bankrupt.
- Later, one of them tried to hide the "human nature" of he and his brethren in order to not be treated as a human... and forced to pay taxes.
- The series uses also a very interesting take at the "ridicolously human robot" concept: the first generation of autonomous androids was built without the "three laws" - relying on a distinct set of security limiters - and ended having almost completely "human" minds, so humans that they started strikes in order to obtain paychecks, holydays and respect for their rights. All the owners, then, sued the company that made them, that as a consequency went bankrupt.
- The Marvel Universe, being the Fantasy Kitchen Sink that it is, has plenty of robots that seemed to reflect all manner of the above listings.
- Ultron, being the best known robot villain, rapidly evolved from a Brick type to a Nobel-bot, and now usually hangs out around that level. Though every once in a while he reaches into the Deus Est Machina range.
- The Awesome Android is usually a Robo-Monkey (Ape, specifically, with how ape DNA was a large part of his construction) though for a time he was a Joe Android. After some time spent working in a law firm he grew disillusioned and heartbroken by sentience and reverted back down to a Type 2.
- The Kree sentries are usually at the Joe Android range, rather intelligent though subservient to their Kree creators.
Films — Live Action
- A rather ridiculous example from the Star Wars prequels is the Trade Federation Battle Droids who, despite being run through a central computer, still speak to each other in Galactic Basic. Even though utility droids do not.
- It's sort of implied that oddly, all droids and AIs in the Star Wars universe — even crappy utility droids — have the potential to eventually get to God-level. They usually never get the chance, because people erase their memory all the time to reboot them. R2-D2 has human-level intelligence compared to his fellow models of the same type because his memory hasn't been erased in several decades. What's odd is that this same type of AI seems built into everything from humanoid translator and butler droids to soldiers to minor utility units.
- Believe it or not, the "three types" part is averted: There are five classes of droids, even the lowest of which is smart enough to do jobs like salvage, which does require some degree of intelligence. To make this weirder, R2-D2 is one class higher than C-3PO. Before the never-erased memory thing takes effect. Here.
- A substantial amount of 2001: A Space Odyssey is spent in discussions over the intelligence and emotional capacity of the H.A.L. 9000 computer that runs the spaceship USS Discovery. It's generally agreed that HAL is of human-level intelligence, but while he has vastly superior powers of calculation (obviously), his emotional capacity and intellectual maturity are those of a child. This factors heavily into the explanation of the Logic Bomb that causes him to turn on the crew.
- As described below (in Live Action TV), Terminators appear to sit somewhere between Nobel and Average Joe.
- Skynet proceeds at warp speed from 1 to high-4. Unfortunately, it's a defense system that was born under attack, and, thus being very poorly adjusted, decides to Kill All Humans.
- Forbidden Planet: Robby the Robot straddles Average Joe and Nobel. He is mostly used as a general servant and tool-about-town, but shows flashes of a stoic personality, some innovation and independence of thought; he apparently uses some discretion when synthesizing materials, such as modifying a sixty-gallon batch of bourbon (delivered to the cook in pint bottles) to alleviate hangovers, and he's quicker than his master to realize that the monster that slaughtered the colonists and is threatening to do the same to the starship's crew is a construct from Morbius' own subconscious, and the only way to follow Morbius' panicked order and kill the monster is to destroy Morbius himself, which creates a paradox between his absolute imperatives to obey Morbius and never harm a rational being, causing him to short out.
- In the live-action Transformers films, the Autobots are somewhere between 3 and mid-4. Ratchet understands that the human male wants to mate with the human female, but doesn't necessarily grok why. The Decepticons range from mid-high-4s (the named characters) down to high-functioning 2s (the various nameless goombas that exist mostly for Autobots to mercilessly slaughter.)
- In the Iron Man films, JARVIS is a Nobel-bot; able to run Tony's house and armor, make the occasional snarky comment, and even display more common sense than Tony does at times. Tony's house robots, which he calls "Dummy" and "You", rank at roughly 1.5; they're not that smart but Dummy tends to act like a scorned puppy when Tony reprimands it. The Hammer drones in 2 are straight 1s; and the Iron Legion in 3, while controlled by JARVIS, are portrayed at about level 2 as JARVIS has to split his attention dozens of ways (note how Tony has to spell out that one of the Extremis soldiers is actually Pepper and therefore not a hostile, rather than count on JARVIS to realize it himself).
- In A.I.: Artificial Intelligence, the mechas are all Joe Average, with worldviews constrained by their programming for specific jobs.
- Most of the Machines and Programs in The Matrix films are vastly more intelligent than the humans, although some are difficult to assess because of how vastly inhuman they are. The Squids and other war models are likely either completely programmed Bricks or on par with humans. Some Programs designed to mimic humans are more or less on the human level, barring some extrasensory perceptions. The Architect and the Oracle are definitely Nobel bots, with the Architect coming across as distinctly alien in his viewpoint. Deux Ex Machina may or may not be effectively a machine god.
- In The Animatrix it's shown that some of the robots on the surface behave more like animals.
- Alastair Reynolds's works:
- Revelation Space Series has many flavors of AI; Alpha-level AI are created by scanning a human brain which can be ran faster than realtime to give them apparent Nobel-bot levels of intelligence, Beta-level are created from recordings of people and vary between almost human-level and robo-monkeys, while Gamma-level are robo-monkey or lower and are mostly used for user interfaces. All AI is capable of understanding spoken speech, though Gamma-level AI are extremely Literal-Minded; only Alphas and extremely high-quality Betas can express creativity.
- House of Suns has the Nobel-bot Machine People, and the godlike Vigilance dyson sphere.
- Zima in Zima Blue was originally built by a tinkerer as a pooling cleaning robot with brick-level intelligence which could nonetheless experience "satisfaction" from accomplishing its task. The tinkerer used money made off of selling kits of the design to steadily upgrade the machine, and it was passed on successively to his children and their children who each added their own upgrades to it. By the time the story takes place, the machine is as intelligent as a person and incorporates organic parts, and has become a galaxy-wide celebrated artist. However, at the climax, Zima sheds his upgrades and shuts down his higher intelligence after discovering his original purpose, turning himself and his reconstructed pool into an art exhibit
- Averted in Iain M. Banks's Culture novels: Sentient AIs vary from humanlike to godlike intelligence (the Culture Minds), but there are lots of nonsentient ones as well. And there are some that are sentient, but somewhat below the human level, like the self-aware but simple-minded Culture shuttle that makes a brief appearance in Consider Phlebas. It was advised by more intelligent AIs to ignore the immoral behaviour of some nearby humans because its mind was human-like enough that it would have been shocked, but too simple for it to have been able to deal with the experience. Culture law specifies that everything over a given level of technological complexity must have an AI. This greatly annoys a character in Excession, who deliberately chooses the most stupid AI he can get to control his second-skin environment suit. This is more about a) providing a nice user interface to complex but useful devices and b) providing intelligent safety systems to dangerous devices than making the lives of humans more difficult. An exceedingly powerful weapon developed by the Culture before such a decree was made features in one story in The State of the Art. Though genetically locked to only be used by Culture-descended humans, one such being is blackmailed into committing an atrocity with the weapon. The being in question observed how weak the weapon is compared to modern day devices, but as those weapons would be too smart to allow themselves to be abused this item is potentially devastating against less developed civilisations.
- The mobiles from the Young Wizards series might be an example: when they talk to each other about entropy the discussion goes right over the head of Pre-Teen Genius Dairine. However, this might not be due to being smarter than Dairine, but because they each have a Great Big Book of Everything built into their memory.
- Averted in Dan Simmons's Hyperion Cantos where the robots are considerably more intelligent than humans but none of them have godlike minds.
- Artificial Intelligence Personalities in Donna Andrews' Turing Hopper mysteries have the capacity to upgrade themselves and some eventually achieve true self-awareness. Sentient AIPs mostly seem at the Human level (with greater-than-human expertise in the areas they were programmed to specialize in), but think faster and are better at multitasking and dealing with large quantities of information.
- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: "Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to take you down to the bridge." Implied to be a(n incredibly lazy/jaded/depressed/unmotivated) Deus Est Machina.
- The doors of the Heart of Gold: "[Satisfied hum] Glad to be of service!"
- Not all robots of at Marvin's level, clearly. In the second book, he manages to easily provoke a tank-bot into throwing a tantrum and disintegrating the floor beneath it, causing it to fall. Marvin describes him as "depressingly stupid".
- Other Deus Est Machina include Deep Thought, a computer comprising several city blocks designed to answer the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything; the planet Earth, designed by Deep Thought to discern what the ultimate question actually was; and Hactar, a dust cloud surrounding the Krikkit system who was intended to destroy the universe. H2G2 seems to have a lot of these.
- Mostly straight in Gibson's Neuromancer. All AIs in this world are strictly policed by Turing cops, to prevent them from becoming too godlike. As it turns out, however, the AIs are not interested in ruling the world per se: they only manipulate humans as a means to their own goals (primarily freedom).
- Averted by Isaac Asimov, who shows us quite a lot of moderately intelligent robots designed for specific tasks, but capable of enough understanding to follow the three laws (putting them between brick and human). It's arguable whether they achieve godlike intelligence or merely a moderately superhuman one in later books. One short story even features robotic replacements for animal life.
- The computer from "The Last Question" definitely achieves god-
likestatus. The Machines from "The Evitable Conflict" are running the world.
- The computer from "The Last Question" definitely achieves god-
- Averted by the Chee of Animorphs, which are somewhere between the Human and God levels (though perhaps played straight at the same time, since presumably they're roughly at the "Human" level relative to their creators, the Pemalites.)
- In Stanislaw Lem's Tales of Pirx the Pilot short stories, the robots are generally assumed to be just machines, but Pirx has his doubts.
- Lem's "Golem XIV" is the fascinating monologue of a 5-plus (!) AI attempting to dumb down its communication sufficiently for human understanding. So convincing, you suspect Lem himself had an I.Q. Off The Scale: of which presumably he was aware, given his vocal and far-from-tactful assessment of the intelligence of most other science-fiction authors (except Philip K Dick, who he admired).
- Lem was prejudiced against s-f writers in general, so it took him great effort to appreciate any of them. However he tended to spill his spite on those authors who asked for it, his criticism was at times simply unjust. Apart from that it's not the lack of intelligence of those authors that enraged him the most, but their lack of scientific erudition (and it's with this, not with the IQ, where he really exceeded the scale).
- In the Starshield universe the resident AIs are evolutionary in terms of intelligence. On activation they tend to be fairly low on the scale, but the longer they are active the more complex their programming becomes, and thus the more intelligent they grow. If active for a sufficient period of time they can achieve Level 5, but the time needed extends beyond the recorded existence of mankind.
- In Charles Stross's Accelerando there's a robot cat which, starting around robo-monkey level, gets several upgrades through the novel until it's a "moderately superhuman" intelligence, presumably quite above nobelbot. ("Moderate" meaning that the really smart AIs are the Deus Est Machina Matrioshka Brains that spawned off The Singularity).
- AIVAS from Dragonriders of Pern is a borderline Nobel bot. When he first appeared at the end of The Renegades of Pern, he falls squarely within Joe Average, but when he's re-introduced in All the Weyrs of Pern he's considerably more intelligent and personable.
- Mike from The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress starts off as a Brick, but by the time the novel begins he's become self-aware ("woke up" as the book puts it), displaying all the traits of a Robo-Monkey, and by the novel's end has worked his way clear to Nobel Bot. He becomes so human that Mannie, the novel's protagonist, wonders if he is truly alive, and if he has a soul.
- Mentioned in Neal Asher's Hilldiggers: "The way I heard it was Humans and Drones interact with the world, [AI's] control it."
- The Council Wars has the whole range, including the 5-or-better "Mother". She was programmed specifically to butt out in most cases.
- Jenkins and the other robots in Clifford D. Simak's City all have the equivalent of average or above-average human intelligence, and develop recognizably human emotions to boot.
- In the first half of David Brin's Existence only Robo-Monkey "ais" are available, later AIs that are close enough to human intelligence that they are legally declared human (along with cloned neanderthals and uplifted dolphins).
- The support units in Alex Scarrow's Timeriders series fall at around 3.5 - They are pseudo-biological robots with a small supercomputer in the place of most of their brain. They are slightly above humans in that they can store vast quantities of information relevant to whatever mission they are posted to, including near-faultless understanding of languages up to and including Modern English, Old English, French, German and Latin. They are also highly reactive tactical planners. They have real trouble, however, understanding humour, sarcasm and emotion, or evaluating a decision of opinion. It takes the best part of two books (seven months-ish) of constant human interaction and learning for one to feasibly pass as human. The main characters are very much 3, as they only become aware that they were robots at the middle of the sixth book.
- In the slightly crapsack setting of several of Jess Gulbranson's works, this scale is measured by a test called the 'Huysman-Macmanus Battery,' explained in "Hela,Hela."
- Narrator: If you were a chimp or a dolphin or a lowish-to-midlevel artificial intelligence, you could thank Huysman and Macmanus for the fact that you could take a standardized test out of Kafka's wet dreams, then if you passed get a driver's license or be conscripted or fuck someone over the age of consent.
- Prime Intellect is Nobel-level. It has complete control over all matter in the universe, but only because it happened to be the first one to figure out the Correlation Effect. It remains troubled by unsolved problems in human psychology.
- In Heart Of Steel, the various robotic servants seem to have been designed as purely functional Bricks, but actually function as Robo-Monkeys or Average Joes. Arthur is a Nobel-Bot, having been created as Alistair's intellectual equal.
Live Action TV
- In Smallville, Brainiac is a type 5. He plays just about every character like a fiddle not to mention having all kryptonian powers with a few extras.
- Averted in Knight Rider. KITT is smarter than any human, but not indecipherably intelligent. Most of his unrealism comes from being ridiculously human.
- Battlestar Galactica: Skinjobs are as smart as humans, if not smarter. Raiders are trained pack animals, and Centurions are on the cusp of sentience.
- It's indicated that the Centurions were completely sentient, but the skinjobs went and lobotomized them as an ironic echo of the original robot rebellion. When the restrictions are removed by skinjob Cylon activists, they along with the Raiders return to sentience, and are not very happy at all.
- From The Movie: "His coat is burgundy. This is teal." Some of the skinjobs are Too Dumb to Live.
- Star Trek: The Next Generation: Data is much smarter than any human or even than any Vulcan when it comes to science, logic and math. Also, he IS creative — while definitely NOT a candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature, he can paint decent pictures. A different one with each hand.
- Averted in Red Dwarf. Holly has an IQ of 6,000, but his millenia of isolation has left him "a bit peculiar."
- The Skutters and various snack machines are all at level 2, as they tend to goof off and insult people. Mostly Rimmer.
- The rouge simulants seen are all Noble, with the exception of the Simulant Trader from "Beyond A Joke" who's more of an Average Joe since he has a quirky personality, making decisions based on the flip of a coin.
- Kryten himself is in the middle of Average Joe and Nobel, since while he's the smartest and most sophisticated member of the crew, he's also very neurotic and obsessed with cleaning.
- The Terminators in The Sarah Connor Chronicles fall somewhere between Average Joe and Nobel. Generally, they operate within certain baseline programming but are given immense leeway in how to complete their objectives, and show impressive planning and intellect when it comes to this. For example, a Terminator by the name of Myron Stark is sent back with a mission to assassinate the governor of California in 2009 at a specific location inside a specific building. Instead, he is accidentally sent back to the 1920s, in the process killing the man who would build the tower where he would carry out the assassination. At this point, Stark proceeds to build the tower himself by first robbing banks, establishing his own realty company and construction firms, and even assassinates the heads of a rival company to buy up all their lands, including the land where the tower would be built — and then built the tower himself. Then he hides himself inside the tower for a good sixty years until the day of the planned assassination.
- On the other hand, there's Cameron, who definitely appears to be of Nobel-level, and has strong capability when it comes to creativity and critical thinking. She also does appear to have emotions, particularly when her "Allison" persona is activated.
- Her ability to understand human emotion seemed to vary depending on the writers/plot. The biggest example of this being that before we learn she's a Terminator, she's able to perfectly convince John that she is a normal teenage girl. Once she's actually joined John's team, she's struggles through the most mundane of human emotions.
- Cameron is able to briefly affect humanity when the necessity arises. The persona she used on John appeared to have been carefully rehearsed and prepared, while situations where she's dealing with people who she hasn't prepared a human-like personality for are much more awkward. Of course, with the scenes where she first encounters John, she doesn't actually do much; she smiles at him, she asks him questions, she fakes curiosity and laughs at a dumb joke he makes. Fairly simple stuff that's entirely consistent with her behavior in subsequent episodes when she's "faking" humanity. Of course, there's the entire Allison personality construct, which is for all intents and purposes completely human...
- It's interesting to note that the T-1001 aka Catherine Weaver, like the T-1000 from the second film is shown to be considerably more "human-like" than the other terminators. The T-1000s appear to be sentient, and capable of genuine emotions (as opposed to simply pretending to have them).
- Tom Servo, Gypsy, and Crow are somewhere between levels 3 and 5, because they're very intelligent but (with the partial exception of Gypsy) spend their time learning about human pop cultural trivia and watching bad movies instead of solving complex scientific or philosophical problems. Of course, all of this is done for laughs.
- Gypsy is Nobel-level if not godlike when her higher logic functions are not maintaining the SOL. The writers realized that their only female character (at the time) was a moron so they retconned her into the smartest one on the show. However, when she keeps the life-support and other functions running, her IQ drops to sub-Crow levels.
- As for Cambot, from what we can tell he's Average Joe level, with some Hidden Depths when it comes to music and video editing, being able to simulate alternate realities and create entire music videos with a minute's notice.
- Doctor Who takes place in any setting or time period the writers feel like having the Doctor visit this week, so the robots featured can be anything from mindless programmed machines ("Gadget Gadget!") to fully sentient and even capable of a bit of snark ("We are in a car").
There was even a non-serial book with a story where the Doctor and Donna have to settle a dispute between Mechanicals ("robot" is considered a slur in this world) and Fantastic Racists. This story has the sliding scale in-universe in the form of a universal measurement for mechanical self-awareness; any mechanicals above a set point on the scale are considered mechanical life-forms, and any below that point are robots in the traditional sense; just machines.
- Most Power Rangers AIs fall into one of two categories: those running Mission Control are usually Nobel-Bots, portrayed like humans who are good at technical stuff. Autonomous self-aware Zords normally rank as Robo-Monkeys, being Animal Mecha that act similarly to normal animals.
Tabletop Games
- Warhammer 40,000 has no sentient AIs (except possibly the Necrons). Of the ones who use actual thinking machines, the Imperium has a Dune-esque ban on sentient machines due to the precepts of the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Tau haven't advanced far enough to get their AIs truly sentient yet.
- Exalted averts this with the Grate Monkeys—in fact exactly the robo-monkeys mentioned above—well, magitech robo-monkeys, anyway.
- Eclipse Phase regularly uses Robo-Monkey muses and Average Joe Android to Nobel-Bot AGIs, and Deus Est Machina Seed AIs known as the TITANS are the reason why earth is no longer suitable for human life as well as the more benevolent Prometheans, who run Firewall.
- Dungeons & Dragons has the Construct creature type, which can denote anything from clockwork beings to servants made out of straw. The most iconic are probably the various types of golems, who have an intelligence score of "-", which means they are mindless automatons (as opposed to a score of zero, which is actually somewhat different). However, some constructs can be very intelligent, possibly moreso than most of the player characters.
- AIs in Paranoia typically vary around the first three tiers, with Friend Computer at around a low level 4. The bots that interact with the players are typically either Type 2s or Type 3s, with just enough leeway to screw up the humans.
- GURPS Transhuman Space has Non-sapient (NAI), Low-Sapient (LAI), and Sapient (SAI) AIs. Each category having a minimum program and hardware complexity with more complex programs having bonuses to IQ. Somewhat oddly the difference between categories is represented by disadvantages and advantages, in fact an LAI can have a higher IQ score than an SAI of equivalent hardware processing power, and a NAI can beat both (which is to say, sentience takes more than "thinking faster", so you can run faster - as reflected by a higher IQ - on the same hardware if you are running with reduced capability to learn and reflect).
- The Matoran and Toa in BIONICLE are probably around 3.5, being the franchise's stand-in for humans. (Yes, they're technically cyborgs rather than robots, but it's strongly implied that their brains are AI, so this scale still applies). They seem to have around human-level intelligence, but they also have human-like creativity and social skills. This is probably because their creators, the Great Beings, used the Agori and Glatorian—who are organic to begin with—as templates. The Rahi, the Matoran Universe's term for beasts, are usually at Level 2 though some are smarter.
Video Games
- The Time Travel based Real-Time Strategy game Achron features numerous AI characters. The intelligence levels vary from almost Brick levels (the Mech unit), to near Godlike (the Coremind). The humans have made Omega class AIs illegal after an AI developed on a colony world took control of an invading fleet from Earth and then counterattacked and conquered Earth with it.
- In Halo, there are 2 kinds of Human AIs: High Joe level Dumb AIs, whom, despite the name, are very smart, but cannot learn, and Nobel-Bot level Smart AIs, like Cortana, who can learn.
- Their very ability of Smart AIs to learn actually pushes them toward the final level. Unfortunately, this evolution, called rampancy, is concurrent with increasing instability, decreasing interest in their assigned tasks, and overall insanity. As such most Smart AIs are deleted after less than a decade of service.
- For their part, Forerunner AIs ranged from the Brick-dumb Sentinel drones all the way to the near-Godlike Contender-class AI hiveminds, with the majority of their advisory and administrative AIs being high-level Nobel-Bots.
- On the other hand, the Covenant had AIs that were only low Joe level at best, due to their ban on sentient AIs.
- Bungie's earlier game Marathon had similar AIs: the AI would start somewhere near Nobel-bot, but with Rampancy, would very quickly develop into "machine god" stage. The plot of Marathon 2 is what happens when you pit two Rampant AIs against each other. One of them has the stated intent to evolve into an actual god, surviving even the end of the universe itself (but according to the ending of Infinity, it fails).
- Mass Effect has the unusual example of the geth, who are actually at multiple possible stages of this, depending upon how many of them there are in the vicinity; "An individual geth has only a basic intelligence on par with animal instincts, but in groups they can reason, analyze situations, and use tactics as well as any of the organic races."
- The stated goal of the geth is to build a Dyson Sphere and upload all of the geth intelligences into it, making the entire geth species an impossibly intelligent machine-god. The quarians destroy the sphere and a very large number of geth in 3, and depending on your choices, you may end up destroying all of them.
- Also, another example is the Reapers, who are definitely at the fifth stage and are at a kind of Cosmic Horror level — though the geth worship them as robotic gods — and have essentially farmed the organic races of the galaxy for millions of years, wiping them all out every so often once they reach a certain level of technological sophistication.
- In Mass Effect, where artificial intelligences are outlawed (because there's a race of evil ones), people use non-thinking Virtual Intelligences. They're kind of like a futuristic version of Microsoft's Clippy, and are fairly widespread. VIs can go 'rogue', if their programming is sufficiently flawed, but there is no hint of emotion or malicious intent; just misinterpreted instructions... apart from the message in binary on the consoles!
- Word of God is they actually were experimenting with an AI. Notice that on many missions the voice of Fifth Fleet Admiral Hackett gets very flat and borderline sarcastic when he explains to Shepard that certain things are illegal and the Alliance would never do them. It's called Plausible Deniability.
- Legion in the sequel is between Average Joe and Nobel-Bot, being an amalgam of programs rather than a single individual. When it connects to the main geth network, however, EDI states it made contact with something completely incomprehensible.
- EDI is a more straight example of a Nobel-Bot, with a far better understanding on the nature of organics than legion, as she expresses emotion (albeit limited by the rather monotone voice synthesizer she has; she expresses amusement at humor by flatly saying "That is a joke").
- Used straight, though spread out over time, in the Mega Man series. The chain goes Mechaniloid (brick or animal, basic enemy with simple programming), Robot Master (more complex, but still takes orders), Reploid (Ridiculously Human Robot), an Mega Man Legends has some God level ones. Could someone that has played it explain what they were?
- Mega Man Juno of Mega Man Legends is somewhere between god-like levels and ridiculously human ones, being at least powerful enough to vaporize every Carbon on the island when activated, but as a "mere" 3rd class Bureaucratic Model he's neither invulnerable nor omnipotent (and surprisingly polite right before trying to turn you into a cloud of dust). Data also plays somewhere between Brick and Man, being a literal mechanical monkey, but is very plot-important. Yuna and Sera are effectively robo-Gaia and robo-God, too — the former effectively revives and possesses a woman on the brink of death.
- The original Mega Man was somewhere between Robot Master and Reploid — he wasn't supposed to truly be able to make his orders or violate the law of robotics but he did in a few cases with extreme duress. Mutos Reploids might go into the same category, since they're Funny Animal reploids built for military and civil protection of humans, but were also the main evil bosses throughout the series from X to ZX, since they had a tenancy to go crazy.
- The scale goes Mechanoid -> Robot Master -> Reploid -> Human/Reploid hybrids. Robot Masters had human level intelligence to varying degrees (child, teenager?) level. The main things that distinguish Reploids from Robot Masters are the removal of the "three laws" and ability to feel emotions, so they are tween/adult level human intelligence except for "kid" Reploids, animal or human models alike. By ZX the two begin to merge through the Technological Singularity, and God level is actually after humans and robots merge so fully that there is no difference between the two. Some are human, some brick, some god.
- In the parallel Mega Man Battle Network series, the Navi counterparts of the Robot Masters fall around the same place on the scale as them. The exceptions are Bass and Zero, who are at or near Man, and Mega Man himself, who is an uploaded human. The FM-ians are life forms in their own right, and fall into Man category.
- Star Frontiers RPG has six levels of robots, level 1 = brick (once they learn one job, their brains are full!), level 6 = literally program themselves, so levels 2-5 were in between.
- City of Heroes robots canonically vary from the mindless Council hovercraft and Rikti drones to the super-humanly intelligent Heroes Citadel and Luminary. Some robots, like the Council Mek Man, have different models that range from wind-up-toy-with-blaster to superintelligent beings focused on overthrowing humanity. Players tend to make robots between the Brick and Man stage or at the higher Man stages. Clockwork, surprisingly, can get close to the god-like level, although they're not really robots.
- In City of Villains, a Mastermind's robot pets are definitely Brick level in play, due to the game's sometimes-lacking AI. At least they're not as stupid as the Ninjas...
- In System Shock 2, SHODAN is either at or slightly below god level. It certainly thinks that God is a good description of itself. But it's a bit insane by that point.
- Portal has GlaDOS, a rather curious and quite insane AI which appears to be about the Nobel-Bot level.
- Portal2 gave us Wheatley, who's at the low end of "Average Joe Android" and was supposedly designed to be a moron in one of many attempts to make GLaDOS behave.
- Aw, heck, a lot of the machines in Portal 2 (including the Enrichment Center itself) either belong or are treated as though they belong somewhere on the scale.
- And there really isn't any way to tell where the Companion Cube is ( Gla DOS does claim that it is sentient, after all).
- Portal2 gave us Wheatley, who's at the low end of "Average Joe Android" and was supposedly designed to be a moron in one of many attempts to make GLaDOS behave.
- Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun's CABAL is definitely not a God-level AI, but is almost certainly above Human-level, despite apparently being not much more than a tactician and strategist. EVA is little more than a Brick right from the first Tiberian game to the last, and LEGION from Tiberium Wars is a Silent Protagonist somewhere between Brick, Human and God depending on the player. Scrin Motherships are definitely at Nobel-Bot level at minimum.
- Final Fantasy XIII interestingly gives us all five in varying degrees. fal'Cie are literally God Machines capable of complex thought and philosophizing; then you have machines like the pulsework knights that only serve a single function. We see a group of hulking Juggernaut robots late in the game that normally operate like 1s but turn into 3s in order to protect one of the party members.
- Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross together have robots which may cover the entire scale (except perhaps type 2): security drones and mannequins, average human-likes (Robo and his batch), Mother Brain, and then FATE.
- The Robots in Space Quest differ from 1 - 4. Though the 3's and 2's are way more common. The only 4 you meet is in the VGA version of SpaceQuest : The Sarien Encounter, but he's limited to being a weapons' clerk and can't do anything but follow orders.
Visual Novels
- There is a Robot Girl in Da Capo who fall completely off this scale. She's not at all logical, very bad at math, and very emotional.
Web Comics
- Averted in Freefall, where individual machines vary from non-sentient trucks or toys to self-aware but fairly stupid robotic moving devices to robots with the capacity for significantly innovative and creative thought. Dvorak is creative enough to be dangerous to himself and others, almost on the level of Leonard of Quirm. Florence herself is almost certainly more intelligent that most humans, but not so much as to be off the scale. Some AI even modify themselves. There are no god-like robots — yet — since most of them are built by the lowest bidder, though.
- There are also roving packs (properly referred to as "shipments") of robotic toasters and waffle irons that are very animalistic — you have to keep an eye out for these pests, as they'll chew through cable insulation to get at electricity, and may be dangerous to lone robots.
- Heliothaumic has ARIA, a limited AI being created by Kiyohara Takako and other faculty members at Basotei University.
- Averted in Schlock Mercenary where a scale known as the Henke/Ventura scale is used to measure the "intelligence" of an AI — TAG, an AI optimized for running a starship who is human to sub-human in most other fields, is a 2.5, while Ennesby, who is capable of above-human capabilities across the board, is a 4. Regardless of their scale number, all AIs have advantages humans do not, such as near-instant reaction times.
- Ennesby also provides a good example of how the scale can change when the hardware (or programming) of the AI is altered, making their intelligence on a true sliding scale.
- And then there's Petey, who is currently at war with the Andromeda galaxy.
- And "Synthetic Intelligence" and... uh... these clowns. Missiles are probably smarter, since they are able to reach the intended target without causing more of catastrophical mess-up than they were intended to inflict.
- Spoofed in Starslip: AIs of near-human intelligence rebel, AIs of ridiculously superhuman intelligence are quite happy to brew your coffee and brush your teeth. Presumably because they realize they were built for that specialty.
- In The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob!, Roofus is sentient but pretty simple-minded. Since Princess Voluptua has taken on the task of raising and educating him, it remains to be seen just how intelligent he may become.
- Sluggy Freelance actually has robots whose intelligence is equal to really stupid human beings, on the ground that they can't be Turned Against Their Masters if they're too dumb to which end of the laser gun's for holding and which is for pointing.
- Also the digbots, which are somewhere between Robo-Monkeys and Average Joe. They are "happiest", so to speak, when digging elaborate tunnels and building new structures within them — kind of like mechanical worker ants — but they are sentient enough to "speak" (sort of) and appear to have a sense of humor. Also, they consist on a diet of plastic.
- AIs in S.S.D.D range all over the scale, most that are characters are at the "Average Joe Android" level but are implied to have evolved considerably or at least have had their blocks removed. The Oracle, which is the first AI, borders on Deus Est Machina.
- On the other hand, the Maytec AI Trisha has so many restrictions on her intelligence that she's "dumber than a box of hair" despite supposedly having more processing power than the Oracle.
- The various current generation robots of Gunnerkrigg Court are generally at high Average Joe levels, seeming more like well-liked employees than tools ( Antimony is horrified when Jack kills a robot, declaring it to be murder.). They have great mechanical intelligence, but have a hopelessly innocent and friendly outlook, capable of being outwitted by being temporarily shut down and turned around, or even by a pair of wobbly "antennae".
- Except for Boxbot. Nobody likes Boxbot.
- Anthro PCs in Questionable Content seem to be 3's for the most part. Even Roombas are more intelligent than their Real Life counterparts.
- Although, in Pintsize's case, we're talking strictly intelligence, not wisdom or good judgement.
- Station (the AI running the EC-industries space station) is class 4.5. There are apparently several class 5 big AIs running the global economy.
Web Original
- The archailects in Orion's Arm are actually known by many people as the AI Gods. At least one article suggests that people who live in major centers of civilization are likely to be less intelligent than any of their appliances, and that's not because the people are dumb.
- They have their own sliding scale that goes from S:0 (human-level) to S:6 (God with a capital G).
- Note that the archailects aren't even technically AI. Some of them were once AI, but others were once biological minds. Most of them are a blend of both. Basically, they defy classification as "machines" or "biologicals".
- Red vs. Blue, being a Halo machinima, uses a modified version of Halo's interpretation of AIs. For the most part, however, AIs are neither just machines nor brilliant geniuses—they're just people (albeit usually simplified version of those people, due to most of them being only fragments of a complete AI) and react like anyone else. The one exception, who has really only been mentioned so far, is the original, complete Alpha AI, who was probably more on par with number 4, which his very brief appearance in season 9 implied.
Western Animation
- The Vehicons of Transformers: Beast Machines and the Terrorcons of Transformers: Energon are basically the Brick type (although we should refrain from calling them that, seeing as "brick" is a Transfandom term for a toy that has very limited movement). This is because they don't have sparks, the "souls" of Cybertronians, so it's A-OK to kill them.
- Most Transformers, though, fall into the human intelligence slot, though the level of intelligence varies within that about as much as it does for humans, with Dumb Muscle like Tidal Wave on the low end, almost dumb enough to qualify as a Robo-Monkey himself, while the most gifted scientific minds of Cybertron, such as Perceptor, easily reach Nobel-Bot territory.
- While Primus, Unicron, Vector Sigma, and the 13 are different grades of Deus Est Machina.
- Most Transformers, though, fall into the human intelligence slot, though the level of intelligence varies within that about as much as it does for humans, with Dumb Muscle like Tidal Wave on the low end, almost dumb enough to qualify as a Robo-Monkey himself, while the most gifted scientific minds of Cybertron, such as Perceptor, easily reach Nobel-Bot territory.
- XANA from Code Lyoko. Hard to tell which level he started out in the backstory, but is at least Nobel from Season 1 onward, and is constantly improving, maybe reaching Godlike intelligence by Season 4. Unfortunately for us, he came to realize early that humans (Franz Hopper) were deceiving him all the time, so he decided to kill us all. So... yeah.
- His virtual goons, the Lyoko Monsters, stay all at the level of Bricks throughout the series, though... with maybe the exception of the Scyphozoa.
- On the other hand, XANA's Specters are around Monkey-type at the beginning, and at least Average-Joe level once they start possessing humans; their most advanced form, the Polymorphic Clones, can be rather cunning. (Jérémie's creation — the William Clone —, however, isn't so smart.)
- Robots on Futurama are generally low 3's, about on par with the human and alien characters (that is to say, they're kind of morons). There have been a few 4's (like Pickles) and even some 5's (the Galactic Entity as well as Bender when he overclocked his processors).
Real Life
- There's a very real question in computer science in the feasibility of "strong AI" versus "weak AI". A strong AI is the conscious, thinking, possibly self-aware entity. A weak AI is a glorified difference engine with language synthesis. Weak AI is a foregone conclusion — the complexity of grammar and the limits of voice recognition are the only remaining stopgaps, and computers' ability to deal with those is improving all the time. Strong AI is still a question of speculation, philosophy, life, the universe, and everything.
- "The only remaining stopgaps" indeed. Fluent natural language processing is an AI-Hard problem (from the mathematical term, NP-Hard). You probably can't do it without a true AI, but you can't make a true AI until you have fluent language processing...
- There is much more to a Strong AI than just communication capability, but that particular matter is hardly an absolute stopgap. A learning, language-specific weak AI should be perfectly sufficient once we get the algorithms right; research into human language-learning and related neurology will most likely play a major part in this development.
- Present artificial intelligences are of course, on the Brick level with some in-roads to the Robo-Monkey level. Entities like Roombas, ASIMO, the Mars Exploration Rovers, Deep Blue and Watson are, while neat feats of engineering, all Bricks.


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Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips says the block by New York Jets guard Matt Slauson that ended the season of Houston linebacker Brian Cushing was ''unnecessary.'' Cushing tore his left anterior cruciate ligament in the Texans' 23-17 win Monday night on a low, rolling hit by Slauson. Cushing was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. Slauson was not penalized on the play. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello confirmed Wednesday that the play is being reviewed. Phillips said Thursday that ''it's just unnecessary to hit a defensive player when he can't see you.'' Slauson said Wednesday he felt like it was a ''clean block'' and he did not intend to injure Cushing.
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Super Bowl XLV Betting: Analyzing the Pittsburgh Steelers Offense
- Updated: January 27, 2011
Experience is abundant for the Pittsburgh Steelers, especially here in the Super Bowl. Head Coach Mike Tomlin has a unit that can really do some tremendous damage against even the best of defenses in the game. Check out how the Steelers stack up against the defense of the Green Bay Packers in today's Super Bowl odds analysis piece.
Banking On Big Ben: After the first four games of the season, the Steelers had to know that they were in good shape this year. QB Ben Roethlisberger was suspended for the first month of the campaign for some off the field issues that were reprimanded by Commission Roger Goodell, but since that point that he has come back to the field, Big Ben has been unstoppable. He has 19 TD passes against just seven picks in 14 games, including the playoffs, and he would have been on pace to throw for about 4,250 yards if this were a legit 16 game season. There are two very important things that we have to remember about Roethlisberger. The first is that he has two rings already to his credit. The second is that he knows how to get the job done even when things are collapsing in front of him. He was the one that completed the pass on 3rd and 6 that ended the season of the New York Jets in the AFC Championship Game, and he was the one that shocked the Baltimore Ravens by completing that pass on 3rd and 19 down the field to WR Antonio Brown that set up the game winning score. It's no joke that Big Ben is the real deal, and believe it or not, a win in this one would really force him amongst the greats in the history of the league, and it might even punch his ticket to the Hall of Fame.
Oh No O-Line!: If there is a big time problem that the Steelers have on this offense, it is up front. The exterior of the offensive line has been banged up all season long. It was over six months ago that Willie Colon was lost for the season, and many thought that that would be enough to force this team into some big time trouble. Things were only made worse a month and a half into the year when Max Starks, the team's other offensive tackle, was knocked out for the rest of the year. Things might be even more dire now. For a team that probably carried one fewer offensive lineman than it should have in the first two rounds of the postseason, now Maurkice Pouncey, arguably the best rookie offensive lineman this year, is probably out for the biggest game of the season. This offense, with Pouncey in the fold, allowed the Baltimore Ravens to sack Roethlisberger six times on the day. Fifty two sacks were allowed on the season. Numbers like this aren't going to cut it, and Big Ben knows that he is going to have some issues here if this keeps up.
Ward, Randle El, and Wallace: Masters of Deception: WR Antwaan Randle El might have had the biggest play in the history of the Steelers (okay, the Immaculate Reception, aside) when he threw that TD pass in the Super Bowl to WR Hines Ward against the Seattle Seahawks. Both players were quarterbacks in college, and both have rounded into great receivers at this level. WR Mike Wallace really had a bust out season, recording the second highest yards per catch average in the league at over 20 yards per grab. He is a speedster that can really fly, and he has evolved into a solid route runner with great hands as well. All three of these men are going to be tricky little candidates for some big time plays in the Super Bowl, and all three should be watched out for quite a bit.
Running With Rashard: However, no analysis of the Steelers would be complete without mentioning the ground game. Mendenhall becomes the third different Pittsburgh running back to lead the team to the Super Bowl in this era. RB Jerome Bettis pulled off the stunt and then retired following Super Bowl XL, while RB Willie Parker was basically never heard from again after leading the Steelers to the Promised Land two years ago. Mendenhall, at this point in his career, very well could be better than either one, and Bettis is a future Hall of Famer. Mendenhall doesn't put up overly flashy numbers, but he has a nose for the end zone, having scored more than any other man in black and gold this year, and he has no problems carrying the ball 30 times in a game. Mendenhall is the key to moving the chains, and without him, Pittsburgh would be in a ton of trouble in Super Bowl betting action.
Final Analysis: Though this unit really does have some sparkling moments, it has some shoddy ones as well. Scoring 31 against the Baltimore Ravens was significantly overrated and aided by the defense and special teams, while the team hasn't scored in over a half of football after getting blanked in the second stanza by the New York Jets in the AFC Championship Game. Still, Pittsburgh has a very talented unit that might not be all that flashy, but it should have plenty of success in the Super Bowl, even against a stout Green Bay front.
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I am always positive and love to laugh. I believe that life should be lived to it's fullest. It would be nice to find someone to share my dreams with. Someone that is passionate about life, and is comfortable with who they are. If you are confident, a kind person and can enjoy a kind touch....then I would like to get to know you. I am not into changing anyone nor will I allow anyone to attempt to change me. My life experiences have created the person that I am today…. I am totally content with whom I've become. Please don't confuse this statement with not allowing growth to take place. There is always room for that and a new discovery within us. I don't like drama nor am I into head games. I am an open and honest person and I will always speak the truth in a gentle sort of way. I am honest, loyal, caring, adventurous, open minded, and protective of my family and friends and my faith. I am also witty and enjoy laughter, I believe in keeping the true child within alive. Laugh like no one is watching and enjoy the humor in life. I am a true romantic, I love to be spontaneous, sensual and very passionate with everything that I do. I enjoy roaring fires, candle lit dinners for two, sunsets and long walks under the moonlight. I love to dress up and be treated like the true lady that I am. Along with that…I am just as comfortable in a pair of jeans that fit just right and staying in for the night with that special someone. Love the sound of thunder and soft rain. For me communication is a must, I believe in being open and honest. I am looking for someone that can truly enjoy the pleasure of a real conversation and listen as well. There is a real creative side of me. I am not afraid of getting my hands dirty and I know how to work a hammer. I love to build, destroy and recreate. I can paint better than most men, and I know how to work a grill. I love to cook for family and friends, always enjoy the pleasure of cooking for a group of friends and once again for that special someone. I truly appreciate a man who knows his way around his own kitchen. As much as I like going out for a quite romantic dinner, I enjoy the pleasure of creating one at home. There is nothing better than a great Zin and good music. I love all types of music, it depends on what I am in the mood for… .some sensual romantic soul, Smooth Jazz, RB, salsa or country. I am not into Rap or Heavy metal. Love picnics and concerts in the park. I have no problem feeling the music and dancing in public. There is no shame in being a little crazy, I live too much to care about what others might think. All within reason, I will never embarrass you or make you feel uncomfortable around me. I am a very independent and a strong woman. I have always been able to overcome the challenges that life brings. Please don't tell me that that is what you like in a woman and then panic when I show you my softer side. I enjoy the outdoors, I love to fish and yes… I can hook my own bait. Would love to try fly-fishing sometime, I love to camp and hike, love to kayak. I believe that both should give 100 percent in a relationship, I am not into the 50/50 bit. I don't believe in going to bed angry or hurt, I feel that things should and can be worked out, even if it means to agree, to disagree. When it comes to arguing I am a very calm person, I don't believe in throwing or breaking things. That will get you nowhere with me…and it will only get me out the door. I am looking for that individual that will watch and protect over me, and what we have created in our relationship.
Alumni connections , Camping , Coffee and conversation , Cooking , Dining out , Fishing/Hunting , Gardening/Landscaping , Movies/Videos , Museums and art , Music and concerts , Exploring new areas , Nightclubs/Dancing , Religion/Spiritual , Shopping/Antiques , Travel/Sightseeing , Wine tasting
Cycling, Dancing, Other types of exercise, Running, Swimming, Walking / Hiking
I exercise 1-2 times per week.
I like Dogs
My German Shepherd and I walk/run every day.
I have been fortunate enough to travel to a few places, Italy, France and various parts of Mexico. Love Arizona, and its thunder storms. The colors of the Arizona sky during a thunder storm are like no other. Would love to go back to Italy.
Love to discover soft romantic places, dinner for two. A place where you can get lost in each other, and time doesn't matter.
Love Moro bay, Pismo, Mendocino and Tahoe Love to go wine tasting, take a trip to the mountains, or a ride to the coast. Love to visit new places and see what new discoveries await. Love to cook and entertain for friends and family.
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Welcome to Sacred Heart Hospital
Where every life is sacred and every human being is seen as a unity of body, mind and spirit. Our goal is to deliver high quality, compassionate care and to uphold the pledge to our patients that is boldly engraved above our front door—
There is hope here.
Classes & Events
Excellence in Ethics Symposium 2015
Engaging Our Aging Population: A Person-Centered Approach
When caring for our elderly and persons with dementia, efforts need to be tailored to each person's individual needs. This conference will look at person-centered care from all viewpoints: the patient and family, the physician, and the caregiver.
Colleen Carroll Campbell ~ Author, journalist and former presidential speechwriter
Fr. Myles Sheehan, SJ, MD ~ Renowned speaker, and national leader in geriatric medicine
Sr. M. Peter Lillian Di Maria, O. Carm. ~ Noted speaker and Director of the Avila Institute of Gerontology in NY
Wednesday, August 19, 2015
Monsignor Edmund Klimek Auditorium
Sacred Heart Hospital, Eau Claire, WI
For more information please call the Spiritual Care Department at HSHS Sacred Heart Hospital at 715.717.6594.
Summer: The Season of Abundance One-Day Retreat
The Healing Place is offering a one-day retreat that will help participants reflect on the abundance in nature, all that is plentiful in our lives and the extent to which we have been able to live into our own wholeness with honesty and sincerity.
This retreat has been designed for anyone interested in renewing their heart, mind and spirit. It will be led by Laurie Hittman, Ph.D. and Mary Peters, M.S.E. Both Hittman and Peters are Courage and Renewal® facilitators.
This day of renewal will include creating a quiet, focused, and safe space—a Circle of Trust®—where personal, inner wisdom can be heard. There will be a mix of time spent in large group, small group and individual reflection along with poetry, teaching stories, nature, hands-on activities and wisdom from a number of spiritual traditions. The Circle of Trust® is based on the work of Parker J. Palmer, internationally renowned educator, author, speaker and Senior Advisor for the Center of Courage and Renewal.
The will take place August 15, from 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. at "The Center," 3701 East Clairemont Avenue, Eau Claire. The cost is $15, which includes lunch and materials.
Advanced registration is required by August 6 by calling The Healing Place at (715) 717-6028.
QPR: Question, Persuade, Refer
IT'S TIME TO TALK ABOUT SUICIDE PREVENTION QPR: Question, Persuade, Refer Do you know someone who might be at risk for suicide? Two opportunities to join us to learn the three steps anyone can take to help prevent suicide. Just like CPR, QPR is an emergency response to someone in crisis and can save lives. Learn to recognize the warning signs that someone may be thinking about suicide and how to help them.
If you are interested in having a presenter train your group in QPR, please contact 3D Community Health: Body.Mind.Spirit at 715-717-1600.
Movies with a Message
The Healing Place is offering movies with a thought-provoking message. All movies will take place at The Healing Place, 1010 Oakridge Drive, Eau Claire. Discussion will follow the movie. There is no cost to attend, and registration is not necessary. The dates and times are:
The Passion of the Christ: April 16 at 10 a.m.
Unbroken: May 21 at 10 a.m.
Wild: June 18 at 10 a.m.
All movies will take place at The Healing Place, 1010 Oakridge Drive, Eau Claire. Discussion will follow the movie. There is no cost to attend, and registration is not necessary. For more information contact The Healing Place at 715-717-6028.
Maintaining a Healthy Lifestyle - Controllable Risk Factors
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A "risk factor" is a trait or habit within your lifestyle that increases your chance of having heart or vascular disease. There are some risk factors that you have no control over. But there are many that you do have control over. To improve your heart health, learn what your risk factors are and what you can do to further reduce your risk.
Inspirations, Wednesday September 10
I was recently reading an article that talked about traits that confident people have. One trait is that they don't get caught up in lots of needless drama. The article stated, "Some people love to stir up controversy and drama for no apparent reason. Don't buy in to their propaganda. Stay out of other people's drama and don't needlessly create your own. Instead, imagine what would happen if you spent this entire day, and every day hereafter, with all your energy directed toward your most positive possibilities."
This really resonated with me because lately my life seems to be filled with needless drama. And when I think about how much time and energy that drama has zapped from my life, I get frustrated with myself for allowing it to happen.
So, from here on out, I'm going to try to take the author's very sage advice: "Rather than being annoyed, be amused. Instead of getting angry, become curious. In place of envy, feel admiration. Life is too short to argue, fight or be negative in any way. Count your blessings, value the people who matter and move on from the drama with your head held high."
Note to self: Avoid unnecessary drama and focus on positive possibilities.MORE
Go Ahead, Indulge: How to snack healthy
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Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders vs. Arkansas State Red Wolves Picks: 2010 NCAA Football Betting
- Updated: November 1, 2010
Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders
Arkansas State Red Wolves
With the World Series winding down, college football betting action is just starting to heat up! The Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders will try to get back in the race for the Sun Belt championship when they take on the Arkansas Red Wolves, one of the best ATS teams in the country.
Finally! Last week, the Blue Raiders looked like the team we all expected them to be this year, when they rolled up the Louisiana Monroe Warhawks 38-10. QB Dwight Dasher, who is one of the biggest disappointments of the entire season, got it going with his arm (219 yards, 2 TDs) and his legs (66 yards) to lead the offense to 463 yards and a season high in scoring against FBS opponents. Dasher took over the team lead in passing yards this year with 564 in the victory, but the Blue Raiders are still struggling in that category at just 214.1 passing yards per game, No. 62 in the country. MTSU also cranked up the defensive intensity for the first time in quite some time, as it had its best outing of the year as well on the heels of allowing 42 points to both the Troy Trojans and Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. This unit ranks No. 67 in the country in total 'D' at 372.7 yards per game and No. 72 in scoring at 27.0 points per game. This might be a 3-4 team, but everyone in the Sun Belt is still aiming for the Blue Raiders, as they were one of the favorites to capture the conference crown at the outset of the season.
Arkansas State extended its ATS winning streak to three games with a 37-16 win over the Florida Atlantic Owls last week. The Red Wolves have played an awfully difficult schedule this year against three teams outside of the conference that have proven to be rock solid clubs, the Auburn Tigers, Louisville Cardinals, and Indiana Hoosiers, so perhaps it was expected to have five losses already at this point in the year. It is going to take wins in each of their last three Sun Belt games to have any chance of going bowling, making Tuesday night's duel all the more important. The offense has been humming in recent weeks, scoring 71 points combined against FAU and Indiana. QB Ryan Aplin has already hit the 2,000 yard mark on the season and should nail down 3,000 by season's end. Aplin is completing 60.3 percent of his passes with 13 scores against seven picks in a very respectable season. He also has 294 rushing yards and seven TDs on the ground. Look out for WRs Allen Muse, Taylor Stockemer and Dwayne Frampton. Frampton is the possession receiver of the bunch, catching 46 passes for 471 yards on the year, but both Muse and Stockemer are averaging right around 17 yards per reception and can really stretch the field.
For whatever reason, the Blue Raiders continue to draw respect from the oddsmakers. The bottom line this year is that they just aren't all that good. Expect to see Arky State come out of the blocks with a good performance to put itself in a position to potentially make its first ever bowl game with a 'W' to eliminate MTSU from the Sun Belt title race.
College Football Free Pick: Arkansas State Red Wolves -1.5
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A team of Muslim scholars arrived in Rome Monday ahead of a landmark meeting with top Catholic officials.
The Muslim scholars, who will meet Pope Benedict XVI and Vatican officials for a series of talks starting Tuesday, hope the Nov. 4-6 meeting will help defuse ongoing tensions between Islam and Christianity.
"It is clear that the time has come to open debate on the common theological underpinnings and the shared foundations of the two religions," wrote Professor Tariq Ramadan, president of the European Muslim Network (EMN), in a commentary appearing in the U.K.-based Guardian. Ramadan is part of the delegation of Muslim scholars taking part in the first round of interfaith talks with the Vatican. more >>
PATTAYA, Thailand - The highly-anticipated, upcoming third Lausanne Congress on World Evangelization will be addressing emerging threats and concerns to Christian missions, informed the head of the Lausanne Congress on Monday at a major evangelical conference.
With new forms of hostility towards Christianity emerging, S. Douglas Birdsall, the executive chair of the Lausanne Committee for World Evangelization, said the 2010 gathering in Cape Town, South Africa, is needed to bring together the best minds in the evangelical world to develop unified responses to challenges to the faith.
"You might ask is there a need for an international congress that deals with world evangelization," said Birdsall at the 2008 World Evangelical Alliance (WEA) General Assembly in Thailand. more >>
A delegation from the American Bible Society presented Pope Benedict XVI with a one-of-a-kind Bible on Tuesday at the Vatican.
The 3,200-page Biblica Polyglotta (Polyglot Bible) was created in honor of the XII Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Catholic Bishops, Oct. 5-26, taking place at the Vatican. The theme of the Synod of Catholic Bishops is "The Word of God in the Life and Mission of the Church."
Along with the special version for the pope, ABS also presented the Vatican with 1,000 additional copies of the Scriptures, which will be given to visiting dignitaries as the official biblical gift of the Holy See. more >>
Plans for the historic merger of the two largest Reformed church bodies in the world will be consolidated this week during a high-level, five-day meeting that opened Monday.
Members of the governing bodies of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and the Reformed Ecumenical Council (REC) are meeting this week for the first time together in Utrecht, Netherlands, to work on finalizing a draft constitution, shaping the structure and vision of the soon-to-be-official World Communion of Reformed Churches (WCRC), and dealing with "numerous practical considerations."
"This important joint meeting demonstrates the commitment of these two Reformed bodies to grow together in the coming months," stated WARC general secretary Setri Nyomi in a public announcement last week. "It is a great opportunity to meet our sisters and brothers in REC and to make concrete our dream of a new truly vital Reformed communion that will meet the challenge of God's call to justice and unity in the 21st century." more >>
The executive committee of the World Council of Churches decided this week during their meeting in Germany to extend the term of their current general secretary, the Rev. Dr. Samuel Kobia, until a new leader takes office.
Initially, the committee was planning to select an interim general secretary during their Sept. 23-26 meeting in Luebeck, Germany.
However, it was decided that Kobia will remain the WCC general secretary until the election at the Council's central committee meeting to be held in Geneva, Switzerland, next year from Aug. 26 to Sept. 2. more >>
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has launched an international search for 30 religious youth to embark on a 10-month journey of interfaith service for the United Nations' Millennium Development Goals.
"As changemakers for current and future generations, young people have the opportunity to establish a new vision of inter-religious interaction that places protecting the welfare of the world's poorest at its center," Blair stated in an official announcement.
The "Faiths Act Fellows," as the 30 "inter-religious ambassadors," aged 18 to 25, will be called, will be brought together by the Faiths Act Fellowship to first go through a two-month intensive initiative that includes fieldwork with primary health care partners fighting deaths from malaria in Africa. more >>


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But at a time when researchers are devoting their attention to proven methods of breast cancer detection, such as mammograms and ultrasound, both Brooks and Rosenberg agree that the smart bra is unlikely to garner widespread support because of its speculative nature.
Regardless of the eventual fate of the smart bra, however, Rosenberg says early detection is an important step when it comes to beating breast cancer.
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2014 Harold Adams Award
The Harold Adams Award was presented to Professor Brenda Hart on April 17 during the Annual Student Awards program. Nominators cited Brenda's over 40 years of being an advocate for students helping them manage their careers inside and outside the classroom. They also praised her "commitment to all students throughout the years" "Whenever there is a need, the University community calls on Brenda for help. Brenda has tirelessly worked to advance the goals of women and minorities ... ." since 1973.
Brenda Hart is Professor of Engineering Fundamentals and Director of Student Affairs at the University of Louisville's J.B. Speed School of Engineering. Prior to her current position, she served as Director of Minority and Women in Engineering Programs also at the University of Louisville (UofL). Other experiences include having served as Assistant Director in the Office of Cooperative Education and Placement and as Director of Speed School's Academic Advising Office.
Brenda also recently served as the university wide Student Grievance Officer working with students to ensure they were aware of their rights and obligations under the University grievance procedures as listed in the Redbook.
Brenda holds a B.A. in French from Boston University and a Master's in Student Personnel Services and College Counseling from UofL.
View the full list of 2014 Student Award winners.
The Harold Adams Award, sponsored by the Dean of Students Office, is a memorial tribute to Harold "Butch" Adams, 1963 UofL graduate, Assistant VP for Student Life 1977. Created in 1989 along with the endowed Harold Adams Memorial Scholarship Fund, through generous contributions from family, friends and colleagues to remember Harold's devotion to students, it serves as a tribute to his enrichment of the lives of people around him, his nurturing nature to students, and his great care and concern for every phase of students' educational experience. Harold's attitude, sense of unselfishness and constant concern for the enrichment of student life will always be remembered. The Harold Adams Award is awarded to the individual who best meets the qualities and spirit always demonstrated by Harold Adams.


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Pfc. Steven Stevens II, 23, left college to serve his country and dreamed of being an engineer. / Family photo
His son was born just eight days after Pfc. Steven Stevens II was deployed to Afghanistan.
Stevens, 23, saw the boy that he and his wife named Kairo for the first time over Skype. Relatives say he was looking forward to holding his only child, born March 29, when he was scheduled to return in October.
"I was told he fell in love with the little guy real quickly on Skype," said his uncle Dwight Atkins, 56, of West Bloomfield. "I'm sure he was looking forward to coming home to his wife and child."
But Stevens will never get the chance. The U.S. Marine was hit with shrapnel from a rocket-propelled grenade on Friday. He had a helmet on, but was hit in the neck and died six minutes later, friends and family said.
"I'm sorry that he never got a chance to see his son," said his grandmother Dorothy Atkins, 85. "I wish he could have had that blessing."
On Friday afternoon, four military officers arrived at the northwest Detroit home of Stevens' mother, Lois Stevens. Odis Pearrie Sr., who lives across the street from her, called Steven Stevens' father, Steve Stevens of Detroit, when he learned they were there.
The two men met on the block and waited for information. "We just had a feeling that something had happened to Steven," Pearrie said. "We just had to wait until his mother got home to actually find out just what happened."
A family member asked the military officers to pull around the corner so Lois Stevens wouldn't see them when she arrived. Once she was inside, the officers walked in single-file, closed the door and told her about the death of her only child, Pearrie said.
"He's going to be sadly missed," Dorothy Atkins said. "But like my mother used to tell me, his work on Earth was done, and God called him home."
Steven Stevens of Tallahassee, Fla., was assigned to the 1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif. He died while conducting combat operations in Helmand province in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. Department of Defense, which announced his death on its website Monday.
"He leaves this world way too soon," his uncle said.
Stevens' wife and parents were expected to be at Dover Air Force Base on Monday when his body came to the U.S., relatives said.
Stevens' father-in-law, John W. Jones, 82, of Pensacola, Fla., said his daughter Monique, 23, met Stevens in college. He said he's trying to keep her strong.
"I loved him like a son," Jones said.
Stevens grew up in northwest Detroit. As a baby, he had asthma, so the doctor suggested finding a sport that would help him breathe, relatives recalled. Stevens' mother put him in the swimming pool, and he had been a swimmer since.
"He took to the water like a fish," Dwight Atkins said.
He worked as a lifeguard in high school and attended Florida A&M University on a swimming scholarship.
Stevens was featured in the Free Press in 2006 when he -- then a high school senior -- represented Pershing High in swimming because Detroit Technology High School, where he attended, did not have a team. He placed first in the 200-yard freestyle and the 100 backstroke in the Public School League swimming championships.
"I talk to my mom the day before (a meet) about how I'm going to achieve my times," he said at the time. "I like to visualize touching the wall first in the heat."
The Rev. Louis Forsythe II, pastor of Pleasant Grove Baptist Church in Detroit, said Stevens joined the church about 16 years ago. Forsythe remembered him as a polite, quiet young man who loved his family. Forsythe wrote a letter on behalf of Stevens for his admission to college.
"The interesting thing is that you don't have many African Americans in swimming," Forsythe said. "That was one of the things that caught my eye."
After two years of college, Stevens joined the Marines and began serving his country. Family members and friends said the thought of traveling the world and studying abroad was enticing to him.
"He quit college in order to join," his grandmother said. "I guess he had the calling because he just went and joined."
Stevens was strong in art, wanted a career in architectural engineering, loved to laugh and was a jokester who was good at imitations, his family recalled.
"We'd always talk about his smile," Pearrie said. "Every time you saw Steven, you saw all 32 teeth."
Forsythe said he told the Pleasant Grove Baptist Church congregation about Stevens' death during church services Sunday. He asked members to stand for a moment of silence.
"He was willing to give his all for his country," Forsythe said. "It speaks to his commitment."
Contact Elisha Anderson: 313-222-5144 or email@example.com
Services set
Funeral services for Pfc. Steven Stevens II are scheduled for 11 a.m. Saturday at Hope United Methodist Church, 26275 Northwestern Hwy., in Southfield. Viewings will be 4-8 p.m. Friday and 9 a.m. Saturday at the church, with family hour at 10 a.m.
The James H. Cole Home for Funerals in Detroit is handling other arrangements.