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On June 18, 2014, the IRS announced a revamped Offshore Voluntary Disclosure Program.
The existing OVDP has been in place since March 2009. The program allows a taxpayer to voluntarily come into compliance with US tax reporting obligations and pay a reduced civil penalty rather than facing either greater civil penalty exposure or criminal exposure. The updated program makes significant changes to the penalty structure, as well as changes to streamline the administration of the program.
Penalty Structure
The penalty structure has been changed significantly. As part of the voluntary disclosure, the taxpayer must agree to pay a penalty in place of any FBAR penalties that would otherwise apply and in place of any penalties that would apply for the non-filing of various information returns that are also required for international tax compliance. For the first time, the IRS has implemented a two-tier structure that prescribes a different penalty for those whose violations were willful and those whose violations were not willful.
The OVDP penalty percentage of 27.5% will continue. The new program introduces a 50% penalty in place of the 27.5% penalty for those taxpayers who had banked with institutions or promoters that the US government has investigated for facilitating evasion activities for its clients, banks or promoters that are cooperating with the US, or banks or promoters who have been publicly identified as having been issued a summons for US taxpayer activity. The IRS has published a list of such banks. The higher penalty will be applicable only after August 4, 2014. It serves as a further incentive for noncompliant taxpayers to come into compliance immediately through the use of the OVDP.
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The second significant change is the expansion of the streamlined process, which had been in place since 2012, to U.S. residents and to all taxpayers who certify that their non-compliance was not due to willfulness. The streamlined process allows for taxpayers to submit three years of tax returns and six years of FBARs. There is no preclearance procedure for the streamlined process and no documentation other than the required returns and certification. In addition, there is no longer any maximum tax threshold (previously $1,500) and no risk assessment, which in the 2012 program had limited the streamlined program to those considered low risk because of the nature of the offshore account and the amount in the account. Once the streamlined process is used, the taxpayer can no longer avail himself of the OVDP.
The streamlined process differs slightly between US residents and non-US residents.
Transitional Guidance
Because of the reduced penalty available for non-willful taxpayers, the IRS has provided guidance for the transition of OVDP participants to the streamlined process. Taxpayers who have opted out of the OVDP can also request to be transitioned to the streamlined program. The important distinction between those who use the streamlined process initially from those who transition in from the OVDP is the requirement for OVDP participants to submit all required OVDP paperwork. This element of the transition must be considered carefully in situations where the documentation shows possible willfulness. The new guidance also notes that the streamlined process is available for those who filed amended returns and FBARs as a "quiet disclosure."
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In situations where there is no tax due and only FBARs or other information returns were not filed, the IRS has separately issued revised guidance for filing the information returns and FBAR forms without any penalty.
Open Issues
The question of whether an individual was willful is a legal determination that will depend on the facts and circumstances of each case. The Supreme Court's definition of willfulness is the "intentional violation of a known legal duty." How this standard is applied in the context of FBAR violations is the subject of controversy in several recent court cases and is by no means settled law. This legal determination should be made by an attorney.
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Articles in QuestionEdit
The merging of Guldur Olog-hai and Gundabad War TrollEdit
I believe they are the same thing. Guldur Olog-hai was the original article though so can we delete the other?
NO the other troll is a different species, the gundabad war troll is at least 30 feet tall, the guldur olog hai only about 12 feet tall, plus the guldur olog hai may not even be olog hai, there is no definition of what kind of trolls were in the battle of the five armies, hence why the gundabad troll was called a "war troll", and not a cave or hill troll, merging the articles has already caused confusion stating false facts since each troll was different, the only reason the people here would think to merge the articles would be that the trolls look too similar (in terms of armor) but on that notion the larger trolls had some less-armored variants, these two articles should be reverted back
The merging of Eye of Sauron with SauronEdit
I would think my reasons pretty self-explanatory but I will state them anyway: The eye of Sauron is simply a symbol for Sauron (and in the movies a shape of Sauron) but I do not think that it would warrant a page of it's own. Caspoi (talk) 22:53, November 1, 2014 (UTC)
NO. The Eye of Sauron is just a symbol of Sauron but that does not mean it needs to be combined with Sauron I completely agree with the person above me it doesn't really need to be two pages but neither does it need to be one, so in my opinion it should stay as two
- So it doesn't need to be two pages but you think they should stay separate because there is to much work merging them? At any rate if the article would be kept then it should at least be renamed into "The Red Eye", which is its actual term in the books/movies, among many things. The arguments for removing the article could also apply to The Hand of Saruman, and this too might fit to be renamed into "The White Hand". Caspoi (talk) 20:05, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
- I vote stay separate. Not everything related to a character(s) needs to merged with them.--DarkLantern (talk) 20:42, March 2, 2015 (UTC)
I have had a change of mind regarding this, partially because I slightly missunderstood the context of the article "eye of Sauron". My major objection is that if one symbol or banner etc. gain an article then must not all symbols, banners etc. gain articles? I still also think that the red eye is a much better title. Caspoi (talk) 00:03, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
The merging of Black Uruk and Uruk-haiEdit
This should be merged with the Uruk-hai page as another type of Uruk. I vote yes.--DarkLantern (talk) 09:19, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
I vote no. I mean, the Uruk-hai page is about those of Isengard, not Mordor, whilst the Black uruk page is about the uruks of Mordor.--Saurons man (talk) 06:56, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
I vote no. The ones of Mordor are the Uruks under Sauron's dominion, and are mentioned in the other page. Enough stands so that they don't need to be merged. The other page is mainly of Saruman's Uruks, which came after the Black Uruks. HiddenVale 01:12, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- They are still Uruk-hai!--DarkLantern (talk) 12:22, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
- So, is that a no?--Saurons man (talk) 7:44, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
- I vote no. It's easier, I think, to distinguish certain classes of a same race with two different pages. TheGoldenSickle (talk) 22:35, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I vote yes however, the Uruk-hai article only talks about Saruman's Uruks and needs some serious work, considering that the Black Uruks came first. Winterz (talk) 14:31, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- No. Uruk-hai are black uruks that were altered by Saruman, so they're two different species. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- I vote No. Black Uruks served Mordor, whereas Uruk- Hai served Isengard.Bolg, son of Azog (talk) 20:19, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
- No. From my source (http://www.thelandofshadow.com/ ) it repeatedly mentions that these Uruks weren't ordinary, they were of Barad-Dur. So, in my opinion, REGULAR Uruk-hai like those of Isengard and the lesser of Mordor, should not be merged with this page. Saurons man 8:53, December 21, 2013 (UTC)
- No.' Black Uruks were from Mordor, the Uruk-Hai were Saruman's creations. Jeff (talk|stalk) 20:45, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
- I definitively and decisively vote No. They are both Uruks, but they are two different breeds. However, both pages could still use quite a bit of work. Gen. Grievous1138 (talk) 22:02, July 16, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge. The Uruks of Mordor are actually referred to as Uruk-Hai in the books and there is no use of the word "Black Uruks" there as far as I am concerned. Uruk-Hai Means Uruk-people or orc-people, not Uruks of Saruman. Another thing: always use the book as a reference or create a non-canon page specifically. Caspoi (talk) 17:00, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- Admittedly I have found one reference of black Uruks in the Fellowship of the Ring in the mines of Moria but that was without a capital letter, as shown here, indicating that it was a description of their looks rather than a part of their name and the fact remains that Sarumans Uruks are commonly referred as the "Isengarders". Caspoi (talk) 17:45, November 10, 2014 (UTC)
- I vote No. I think although Black Uruks are a kind of Uruk-hai, there are quite a lot of differences between them. For example, Black Uruks are better warriors, and Black Uruks joined different events with the normal Uruk-hais, for example the Battle of Cirith Ungol, Gorbag and Shagrat are different, and indeed Black Uruks(Shagrat) are captain of Uruk-hais, sharing a different status. So I think the two pages shouldn't be merged.--Prince of Erebor(talk)
- The section entitled The Stewards in Appendix A mentions this exactly about the matter the race of uruks, black uruks of great strength, first appeared out of Mordor. Now the author may have been talking about an earlier breed of Uruk or it simply may be that he was referring to them as 'black uruks of great strength' as a way of conveying 'fright'.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:55, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
- Like the Orcs and Goblins thing, we must get this settled it is utterly ridiculous that the matter should be held up for over two years.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:55, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
Merge: I second User:DarkLantern's motion. These pages should be merged as soon as possible, as this has been a conflict for years already. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 05:19,2/14/2015
The merging of Goblins with OrcsEdit
See discussion under "Articles for deletion." Tolkien used goblins in The Hobbit as a substitution for Orcs because he wanted to use English to make the book as simple as possible. He never meant for goblins to be considered a different species or even a type or class of orc; he just wrote goblin in situations where he would write orc in later books. Even if there is a contention that the word should continue to mean a type of Orc, as is believed by some, that can be discussed in the merged page. - Gradivus, 11:59, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
I disagree with this. The two terms aren't quite synonyms; the pages work how they are without confusion, and is already specified that they are almost on and the same. On this Wiki, Peter Jackson's films also take part in everything they include. On a site only about the vast content of Tolkein's works, this would be reasonable. But not here. That is why the Deletion-template is removed on the Goblins page. HiddenVale 20:07, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
- Tolkien considered them synonyms, and I think Tolkien has to be the ultimate arbiter on this point. And here's what he actually wrote:
- "Also the Orcs (goblins) and other monsters bred by the First Enemy are not wholly destroyed." - The Letters of JRR Tolkien - #131: To Milton Waldman
- "Orcs ... owe, I suppose, a good deal to the goblin tradition (goblin is used as a translation in The Hobbit, where Orc only occurs once, I think)..." - The Letters of JRR Tolkien - #144: To Naomi Mitchison
- "Your preference of goblins to Orcs involves a large question and a matter of taste, and perhaps historical pedantry on my part. Personally I prefer Orcs (since these creatures are not 'goblins', not even the goblins of George MacDonald, which they do to some extent resemble)." - The Letters of JRR Tolkien - #151: From a letter to Hugh Brogan, explaining why he decided to stop calling the creatures "goblins" except when characters were speaking colloquially, and preferred using "orcs" when talking about them.
- "Orc is not an English word. It occurs in one or two places but is usually translated goblin (or hobgoblin for the larger kinds). Orc is the hobbits' form of the name given at that time to these creatures, and it is not connected at all with our orc, ork, applied to sea-animals of dolphin-kind." - JRR Tolkien, in a note in the revised edition of The Hobbit, explaining why he had originally not used "orc" when talking about orcs in that book. When he says "these creatures" he's talking about the creatures he referred to as "goblins" in The Hobbit.
- - Gradivus, 15:16, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Well thanks for leaving the Merge-template on the page until it's had a chance to be voted on and a decision by Admin has been made. I vote merge. - Gradivus, 20:21, December 22, 2012 (UTC)
- Well you're welcome. I vote not merge. HiddenVale 00:08, December 23, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with Gradivus merge--DarkLantern (talk) 09:17, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Am I allowed to vote here? If so I vote not merge. -The Forgotten Beast (talk) 01:48, January 15, 2013 (UTC)
- I also vote not merge. TheGoldenSickle (talk) 22:32, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Do Not Merge: Although Tolkien generally used the terms 'goblin' and 'orc' interchangeably, there are enough distinctions in Tolkien's books, and far more in other adaptations (the Battle of Middle Earth games consider goblins and orcs to be 2 different species) to warrant having separate articles. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:25, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- There should be only Uruk-hai NOT Black uruks. What evidence of races within Uruks is there?--DarkLantern (talk) 05:52, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge: Tolkien explains explicitly clearly many times that goblin is simply the English counterpart for the word Orc. He makes no distinctions between the two at all, and uses them interchangeably. The goblin page is nothing but a smaller version of the Orc page, and is redundant to the wikia. The pages should be merged. -Areades (talk) 22:40, July 1, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge. Any differences between Orcs and goblins can be discussed in a special section on the merged page. Keep in mind also that Tolkien is the authority on this subject- not Peter Jackson.
- Merge. One could simply have a "Goblins in the New Line Cinema" with a "NonCanon" template but if we are to keep true to Tolkien's works, which we should, there is no separate group of goblins different from other
Orcs. Caspoi (talk) 16:40, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- No. Tolkien may have used both Goblin and Orc to describe the same group of creature. It should be noted that Tolkien thought of them as the same and also noted that in Peter Jackson's not fully cannon works Goblins appear to be different to Orcs. It should explicitly say that Tolkien's Orcs and Goblins may have been the same in the books but differ in other non cannon works. It also seems that the word Goblin is used in current citations and for some Orcs who live outside of Mordor, As far as I know it appears in Tolkien's earlier works Goblins and Orcs were separate but as his works continued he seems to mix them together and eventually state that goblin is the English word for Orc. So Tolkien had some dispute to whether he would mix Orcs and Goblins or not until later on in his works
- Merge: I think Goblins and Orcs are the same in the books, so there is no need two pages for the same topic, although goblins in the movie is different from Orcs. But I think these can be solve by listing their differences in the Portrayal in adaptations section. ---Prince of Erebor-(Reply Press Here)
- Merge: It is utterly ridiculous that this matter should be held in council for over two years. 'Goblins' is just another name for Orcs! I have looked it up in two different sources: the index in the back of my The Lord of the Rings and the entry 'Goblins' refers you to Orcs and in my copy of The Complete Guide to Middle-earth it does the same thing refers you to 'Orcs'. I've always respected the voting procedure well but in this case the canon truth overrules the majority. Unless anyone has any other canon book information to refute this, I may just or maybe I will just merge it myself ending this debate once and for all.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:55, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I guess it is partly my fault for not offering my sources up earlier and being a bit divided between respecting the majority voting and to the truth. I was also waiting for a competent editor to merge properly. This is soon going to dealt with and the matter closed permanently.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:55, February 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree Dark Lantern, but I don't agree to merge black uruks and uruk-hais though. Well, I may help in merging the Goblins and Orcs pages if you want. ---Prince of Erebor-(Reply Press Here)
- Merge: I second User:DarkLantern's motion. These pages should be merged as soon as possible, as this has been a conflict for years already. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 05:20,2/14/2015
- Merge: If I understand Gradivus findings right, Tolkien then preferred 'Orcs' over 'Goblins' and thus the term became the most widely known name for them. This wiki uses the most popular and widely known whether or not it is English-sounding or English. This wiki being book first also does not rely on movie or other adaptations to found its canon materials either, meaning just because the movies or games imply something enough does mean it will become the truth. I still say, prefer, and vote for Orcs as the name. I vote merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 17:22, February 14, 2015 (UTC)
Glorfindel and Glorfindel of GondolinEdit
(The first is for Glorfindel of Rivendell, the second for Glorfindel of Gondolin.)
Here are my reasons for voting keep both: As I think is fairly well explained on the pages, it's accepted by some that they are the same person, and it's accepted by others that they are not. It's quite clear from Tolkien's notes that when he wrote The Lord of the Rings they were definitely not supposed to be the same person (The Peoples of Middle-earth (The History of Middle-earth, Vol. 12): XIII Last Writings, Glorfindel). Because he later wanted to maintain the idea that one elf's name was never duplicated by another, near the end of his life (1972) he put his idea for explaining that the one was the reincarnation of the other, in his private notes. However, he never implemented this in any of his stories, published or unpublished, and therefore there is still no justification in canon that they are the same person. It's certainly possible to think of them as the same person, but the question is still open enough, and the controversy so genuine, that having two separate pages is justified.
Another reason for keeping them separate pages even if the second Glorfindel were accepted as a reincarnation of the first, is that the two "lives" were very separate and were not part of the same story or even the same epoch, So it makes more sense to have different entries for the two, as long as it is clearly explained (as it is, in both pages) that Tolkien's private notes indicated that the second Glorfindel could be a reincarnation of the first.
You can read more about the controversy in The Problem of the Two Glorfindels in the Encyclopedia of Arda. [[1]]
- So what is your point? You're the only one nominating it be merged. Anyway, this is to vote to merge articles, not to discuss their subjects (that's in the Talk page or Forum).
- Keep Both - two different characters should have two different articles. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Both - what's wrong with Glorfindel of Rivendell's parents naming their kid after a mighty warrior of Gondolin?Bolg, son of Azog (talk) 20:24, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Keep - Although I personally believe the two to be somehow the same person, there is no proof of this. The characters have been completely separate and lived two entirely different lives in different times. Areades (talk) 06:20, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep both. Whether you believe they're the same person or not, it's clearly not obvious, so I don't think we should merge unless something surfaces proving that they are one and the same. --Readingrancor11 (talk) 17:40, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Until we know for sure (which we probably never will) that they are one and the same it is best to keep them. I for one do believe that they are one and the same but I must not necessarily be in the right. Caspoi (talk) 16:51, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep both. Well, there are no proofs or canon sources which can proof that the 2 Glorfindel are the same. So better to have 2 separate articles.----Prince of Erebor(talk)
- Merge - Other sources, such as Wikipedia and Tolkien Gateway, acknowledge that Glorfindel of Rivendell and Glorfindel of Gondolin are one and the same. So why not One Wiki to Rule Them All as well? If you read The History of Middle-earth: The Last Writings, there is a statement that supports this:
- "He then became again a living incarnate person, but was permitted to dwell in the Blessed Realm; for he had regained the primitive innocence and grace of the Eldar. For long years he remained in Valinor, in reunion with the Eldar who had not rebelled, and in the companionship of the Maiar. To these he had now become almost an equal, for though he was an incarnate (to whom a bodily form not made or chosen by himself was necessary) his spiritual power had been greatly enhanced by his self-sacrifice."
- —JRR Tolkien, Last Writings, Glorfindel II
- There is even a further discussion which asks, "When did Glorfindel return to Middle-earth?", and long paragraphs venture on each possibility. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 13:26,2/7/2015
- ...Very notable is "Glorfindel tells of his ancestry in Gondolin". Years later, long after the publication of The Lord of the Rings, my father gave a great deal of thought to the matter of Glorfindel, and at that time he wrote: "[The use of Glorfindel] in The Lord of the Rings is one of the cases of the somewhat random use of the names found in the older legends, now referred to as the The Silmarillion, which escaped reconsideration in the final published form of The Lord of the Rings." He came to the conclusion that Glorfindel of Gondolin, who fell to his death in combat with a Balrog after the sack of the city (II. 192-4, IV.145), and Glorfindel of Rivendell were one and the same: he was released from Mandos and returned to Middle-earth in the Second Age.
- - The Return of the Shadow, "At Rivendell"
- I added yet another evidence (or reference) regarding his re-embodiment. Just like Goblins and Orcs, it is utterly ridiculous that we cannot come into a conclusion when evidences exist. - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 05:53,3/7/2015
Silvan Elves and Wood-elvesEdit
These articles have been nominated for merging long before I became an admin. I am surprised it has a {{Merge}} tag on one article, but has no open discussion here in the forum. As for myself, I vote on merging these two articles, as they are basically the same thing, only that one is in Elvish name and the other is in the Westron translation. Also, with The Hobbit films being such a massive hit, the article should be thoroughly updated and cleaned-up. Your thoughts? - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 16:06,3/9/2015
Agreed, there is no such group of elves as the wood elves, unless you are to apply the definition to all elves who happen to live in a wood. Caspoi (talk) 15:53, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
Previous NominationsEdit
Far over the Misty Mountains Cold, Far Over The Misty Mountains Cold (Song), and The Song Of The Lonely Mountain (Voting closed & merged)Edit
These two pages basically have the same content, and both are in need of serious clean-up. Cleaning the article would be easier if these two are merged as one.
EDIT: Hold the phone. There are actually three articles with the same content - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 14:23,2/28/2015
- I agree, Merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 14:24, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
- Merged and matter closed. - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 13:00,3/5/2015
War Beast and Misty Mountain Troll (Voting closed & merged)Edit
- Agree! The format is also a mess here! And it is duplicated!----Prince of Erebor-(Reply Press Here)
- Agree! it is the same thing! with orcs and goblins! --Senhor Morgoth (talk) 18:14, February 14 2015
- Yes, we should merge them. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 05:20,2/15/2015
- I say merge but merge into what and under what name?--DarkLantern (talk) 20:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Merge to Misty Mountain Troll page, is there a problem on that page?? I think it is acceptable. ---- Prince of Erebor'''-(Reply Press Here)
- Voting unanimous and Merged--DarkLantern (talk) 00:18, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
A Long-expected Party and A Long-expected Party (chapter) (Voting closed & merged)Edit
I vote to merge these articles; they are describing the exact same thing. 22.214.171.124 21:30, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
- Agree, the long-expected party page is useless and both pages are describing the same event. ----Prince of Erebor-(Reply Press Here)
- Agreed. I would merge them now if no one votes otherwise. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 05:20,2/15/2015
- I agree merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 20:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Voting unanimous and Merged--DarkLantern (talk) 20:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 20:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
Smaug and Smaug (game character) (Voting closed & merged)Edit
I do not understand why the latter article exists, but I suggest that we merge these two pages. — Darkchylde (talk • contribs) 11:55,2/18/2015
- I agree with Darkchylde.--DarkLantern (talk) 14:55, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
- I agree merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 20:33, February 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Me, too. I agree merge.
The Man in the Moon Stayed Up Too Late and Merry Ole Inn (Song) (Matter closed)Edit
The "merry old inn" is an excerpt of The Man in the Moon Stayed Up Too Late. They are essentially the same. I vote for merge. - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 13:00,3/5/2015
- I agree, merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 14:40, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Me too, merge! ---- Prince of Erebor'''-(Reply Press Here)
- Articles merged and matter closed. - Darkchylde • Talk • Contribs 05:39,3/15/2015
Dragons of middle earth with Dragons and Origin of Dragons (Matter closed)Edit
- Merge: the pages cover similar material. All three pages should be merged into one. Areades (talk) 06:06, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Dragons. Merge and redirect any useful content from Origin of Dragons into it. Delete Dragons of middle earth - it has no unique content and isn't even spelled properly. Jeff (talk·stalk) 17:23, August 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Dragons of Middle-Earth but keep Origin of Dragons. Either that or delete all the more controversial articles like Did Balrogs Have Wings?. Caspoi (talk) 18:08, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- Matter closed--DarkLantern (talk) 18:56, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
Wargs in Peter Jackson's films with Wargs (Voting closed & merged)Edit
- Merge: there is no need to have a page for each race, and another for each race's film trilogy counterpart. Besides, in the case of wargs, the beings are very similar in the books and films. Areades (talk) 06:14, July 15, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge into Wargs. Jeff (talk·stalk) 17:24, August 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge. Why do we have 2 separate pages in the first place? --Readingrancor11 (talk) 17:38, August 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Merge. Put the "Wargs in Peter Jackson's films" as portrayals in adaptations and keep the order that way. Caspoi (talk) 16:46, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- NO. Wargs in the LOTR's books are much smarter then the Wargs in Peter Jacksons Movies, There is a clear and present difference between the wargs and should be kept separated to keep clear that Jackson's portrayal of Wargs was not fully to the Original works of Tolkien, only merge if you add in a section about the differences between Jackson's Wargs and Tolkien's original wargs, there are only a few differences but they are important enough for two sections or a clear statement about there differences.
- Merge. The page Wargs in Peter Jackson's films' content is mostly duplicated with Wargs.----Prince of Erebor(talk)
- Agreed, merge with Wargs.--DarkLantern (talk) 17:02, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Majority rules and matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 17:02, February 5, 2015 (UTC)
High Fells with The Nazgûl tombs (Voting closed & merged)Edit
I think that these articles should be merged. The only reason the High Fells were created in the films was to have a location for the tombs of the Nazgûl. -- 184.108.40.206 21:18, July 6, 2014
- Merge. Both were invented by Peter Jackson for the same purpose. Caspoi (talk) 16:52, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
- I Agree, merge. Matter over merged--DarkLantern (talk) 18:24, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
The merging of Southron and SouthronsEdit
Southrons have already been merged with the Haradrim page but keeping Southron is rather pointless and therefore I advocate it too be deleted or merged with the Haradrim. Caspoi (talk) 18:38, October 20, 2014 (UTC)
- I agree.--DarkLantern (talk) 13:14, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Situation dealt with deleted with some text transferred. Matter closed--DarkLantern (talk) 13:14, November 2, 2014 (UTC)
Chronology of the Lord of the Rings (Voting closed & merged)Edit
This article should be merged with Timeline of Arda. I vote Yes.--DarkLantern (talk) 15:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, per above. Winterz (talk) 21:22, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes - Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes - but it still should be detailed.Bolg, son of Azog (talk) 20:21, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Unanimous vote for Yes and merged and matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 14:23, October 21, 2014 (UTC)
Merge Karsh with Captain Carthaen (Voting closed & merged)Edit
I vote merge Karsh into Captain Carthaen's article. Why? It's simple. We don't have an article for Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White nor Gandalf's Maiar counterpart, and Karsh is just that, a wraith manifestation of Carthaen with little information to it. Winterz (talk) 14:40, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Merge Captain Carthaen with Karsh. Reason being, Karsh is a playable character in a video game, and Captain Carthaen is just part of Karsh's backstory. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- I vote Captain Carthaen into Karsh.--DarkLantern (talk) 05:52, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Majority vote for Captain Carthaen with Karsh. Matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:49, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
- I vote Captain Carthaen into Karsh.--DarkLantern (talk) 05:52, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
The merging of Tolkien Mythology, Völsunga saga and Hervarar saga into Tolkien Mythology (Voting closed)Edit
Motivation: See no need for separate articles, let's merge! --Nognix 02:00, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed.--Wyvern Rex. 09:33, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Both the Völsunga saga and the Hervarar saga should remain separate. The Tolkien Mythology page was really meant to be an overview (generalization) of the composition and influences of works made by Tolkien. I propose that the Tolkien Mythology page mention them in passing and the two incomplete articles be completed in full. I vote No.--DarkLantern 10:35, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: It's fine if someone wants to write a bit more on the two sagas, right now, they add nothing of importance as the articles are only one line long.--Nognix 21:18, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- I vote Yes and No. If the other two were well-established articles I'd say leave them separate. But there's not really anything in those articles except mentioning that Tolkien was influenced by them. Accordingly, I think the best thing would be to delete those two pages, and have the information be part of an "Influences on Tolkien's writing" (or some such) paragraph in the Tolkien Mythology page, with the names of those sagas linked to respective Wikipedia articles on them. However, if someone were willing to write a complete separate article on each saga them, and if admin considers that articles about myths that are non-Tolkien but influenced him are appropriate for this Wikia, then they should be separate articles. But right now, the links for them should go to Wikipedia. - Gradivus, 14:53, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
- No per DarkLantern. Although we should probably get rid of the stubs. Winterz (talk) 21:44, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Majority rules for No. Matter
Merging Quest of the Ring with The Lord of the Rings (Voting closed)Edit
I vote merge. Everything on the Quest of the Ring page is also covered on the Lord of the Rings page, which is essentially the story of the Quest of the Ring anyway. - Gradivus, 21:53, January 14, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because the latter is a real-life article with everything that goes on in the novel. The Quest of the Ring article is the in-universe counterpart that tells of the journey to destroy the ring, seems worthy enough of an article, considering that some of the novel details do not belong in the Journey's story. Winterz (talk) 21:16, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- I vote no, agreeing with Winterz. Has the same status and place as Quest for the Silmaril and Quest of Erebor.--DarkLantern (talk) 14:55, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Kept--DarkLantern (talk) 09:46, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
The Fall of Arnor (Voting closed situation resolved)Edit
This article should be merged with Angmar War but only in the Portrayal in adaptations section. I vote Yes.--DarkLantern (talk) 15:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it's the logical thing to do. Winterz (talk) 12:10, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes in agreement with the above. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Situation resolved! Article deleted because its contents were already at the Angmar War page.--DarkLantern (talk) 09:46, December 17, 2013 (UTC)
English language (Voting closed & merged)Edit
This article should be merged with Old English language. I vote Yes.--DarkLantern (talk) 15:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, this isn't a Languages wiki so yeah, absolutely. Winterz (talk) 12:11, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes - Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Unanimous for merge with Old English matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 18:12, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of List of Minor Battles in Middle-earth and War of the Ring Battles into one article named Minor Battles of the War of the Ring or Other Battles of the War of the Ring (Voting Closed)Edit
- I vote Yes under Other Battles of the War of the Ring for it would make more sense. In addition, the article is in need of a major clean up and re-writing and whom ever has the patience to do it should be worthy of a barn star (reward).--DarkLantern 13:09, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
- A chapter or page called "Other..." makes sense in print, because it refers to everything other than what has already been mentioned; but it makes no sense as a web page title; "other" than what? — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:03, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes: It would definitely improve these convoluted matters if they are merged.--Wyvern Rex. 14:04, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes: The articles are practically the same, I volunteer to clean them up EvilHeroDarkGaia 14:32, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
- No: Clearly they are not the same but the second makes more sense within the first but still ... what will happen to the biggest battles of the War of the Ring? They are not minor so I would prefer let it the way they are. Winterz 03:29, December 25, 2010 (UTC)
- The titles, if correct, indicate that the pages are not the same. A page called "War of the Ring Battles" should include all battles that were part of that war. The one with "minor" in its title should not (and it may include battles that were in the same period but not part of that war); but where are the criteria for deciding what is "minor", and what is the point of such an article? In addition to the category, which will list all battles in alpha order or similar, it should be possible to have a single grouped list of all battles, without infoboxes to clutter it up, with a Template:Main and brief text for those that have their own article and full details for those that do not. "Battles during the War of the Ring" is probably a good title, having the distinctive word first and covering any other battles that may have happened during that period. You guys who've seen and read more than I have will know whether there were any that weren't part of the War, but that title will mean that it doesn't matter. So this is a qualified "yes" vote, which may satisfy the valid concerns of Winterz. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:03, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
- I say yes every battle is important in all the Middle-Earth history--Aragorn3590 7:38, 1/27/11 (LONG LIVE MIDDLE-EARTH)
- I say no, but not disagreeing with Aragorn3590. HiddenVale 22:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, under the title of "Battles of the War of the Ring" so its in a similar manner to the way Wookieepedia does things like "Battles of the Galactic Civil War" or "Battles of the Clone Wars", because it works. Zeta1127 of the 89th Legion (talk) 18:11, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
Yes under Minor Battles of the War of the Ring --Will k Talk to me! 01:08, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
- The majority rules is that the articles will be merged as Battles of the War of the Ring and will include all the battles of the War of the Ring summarized but not detailed with a link to the already existing page if there is one.--DarkLantern 08:05, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
- On it.--Nognix 20:02, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- The majority rules is that the articles will be merged as Battles of the War of the Ring and will include all the battles of the War of the Ring summarized but not detailed with a link to the already existing page if there is one.--DarkLantern 08:05, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
- So what happened to this? Community consensus was Merge as a result yet it was never merged?! Winterz (talk) 21:39, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Finally all merged into Battles of the War of the Ring. Matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 02:53, November 10, 2013 (UTC)
The Merging of The Two Towers video game has already been merged, so taking this off the list. (Voting Closed)Edit
- I vote DEFINATELY YES because we don't need two articles about the same video game. How'd this even come about, anyway? Am I the only one to notice this? Also, one of them is less detailed than the other. We only need one article per character.... --Hello, I am the Sandman! I am also the Phantom Stranger. 17:35, April 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. HiddenVale 22:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes - move the better of the two articles to the full proper name of the game, then redirect the other article to prevent this from happening again. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:33, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
The World of Arda and Tolkien (Voting closed & merged)Edit
This article should be merged with Tolkien Mythology. I vote merge.--DarkLantern (talk) 05:26, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. Winterz (talk) 12:12, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. HiddenVale 22:33, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged!--DarkLantern (talk) 23:41, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of Minor Places with Places (Voting closed)Edit
I vote yes for the stake of good order. Why have a separate article for the Minor places?--DarkLantern 13:48, September 1, 2011 (UTC)
- Changing vote. Sure.--Nognix 21:22, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, common sense. Winterz (talk) 21:20, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged and matter closed--DarkLantern (talk) 02:03, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
Merge Shields with Shield (Voting closed)Edit
The titles explain it pretty much already, we have two articles about the same object. The only difference is the 's' in the title. I vote merge for the simple fact the pages are the same. Abandon the search for Truth; settle for a good fantasy - Horakoeri 14:20, March 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree merge!--DarkLantern (talk) 06:16, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged--DarkLantern (talk) 06:16, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree merge!--DarkLantern (talk) 06:16, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II with Mordor powers, Isengard powers and Goblin powers. (Voting closed)Edit
Motivation: The information in section Powers in "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II" is almost the same as these three have. Also there seems to be no link between "The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II" and the three, so that if someone wanted to see them, they would have to know there actually was a separate page for them. Morgoth's Ring 20:10, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree.--DarkLantern (talk) 11:18, July 24, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree.--Williggy (talk) 16:41, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged and matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 22:42, February 6, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of giants, Stone giants, and Mountain Giant (Voting closed)Edit
Someone else put the Merge template on the Mountain Giant page, I just edited it by putting the template on the Giants page as well. The first thing I noticed is that the giants being talked about on the Mountain Giant page seem to be from video games and/or a playset. I also noticed that the Stone Giants page and the Giants page seem to be talking about the same thing, so I included that page in with the mix. I vote merge all of them, but at least merge the two pages that both seem to be talking only about the giants that were throwing boulders in The Hobbit. - Gradivus, 23:26, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
I vote yes also; the Stone and Mountain Giants pages are basically duplicates. All the information should stay on the Giants page, while the other to would be deleted. HiddenVale 01:31, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
Like the reasons discussed above, Giants and the others are basically the same. The Giants page and the Stone Giants have even the same information. In the other versions of the legendarium, Tolkien mentioned many different kinds of Giants, but all were the same. In other words, I vote YES. - Darkchylde (talk) 10:15, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
While I approve of the merging of the pages - Giants and Stone Giants. I do not approve of a merge with Mountain Giants and Stone Giants. They are different species not the same. I vote NO TheGoldenSickle (talk) 22:37, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I vote Yes. In all those articles it clearly states they are all they same peoples. The same that attacked Thorin and Company in The Hobbit.--DarkLantern (talk) 22:44, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged all into Giants and matter closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 04:11, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of Battle for Middle Earth and The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth (Voting closed)Edit
Motivation: The page has a merge template bus has never been discussed before. I think they should be merged.--Nognix 15:03, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree.--DarkLantern 22:10, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
- Merge HiddenVale 23:09, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Already merged!--DarkLantern (talk) 23:36, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of Olog-hai and Mountain-trolls (Voting closed)Edit
Motivation: The Trolls article states the Olog-Hai are a breed of Mountain Trolls. I have no knowledge of this (though I admit my knowledge isn't what it was) but I'm merely stating the article states it. --Nognix 09:09, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
- No, even if related by ancestry, the Olog-hai have developed into a far better specimen (and far different too) so they deserve their own article. (Btw hai, I'm back) Winterz 01:01, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
- No same reason as Winterz--DarkLantern (talk) 03:41, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of Goodbody with Goodbody family (Voting closed)Edit
Both are of the same Hobbit family. Also, looking at Category:Hobbit Families, there appears to be no standard for the naming of family articles. The words "family" and "clan" appear irregularly, and whilst the singular is used for most of them, a couple (Fairbairns and Gardners) use plurals.--DrewMek 19:24, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Good case for merger! But which name? See Category talk:Hobbit Families. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 15:37, July 20, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes under Goodbody Family. I would also suggest the form of (singular family name) Family for Hobbit Family articles, with other variants (clan etc) being mentioned within the article itself.--Wyvern Rex. 11:00, August 29, 2011 (UTC)
- The main question is whether to standardize these family names for example: family at the end of them all or just the family name.--DarkLantern 02:56, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Since this falls under a Naming Standard situation, I am going make the finial decision on this not just for this but for all of them. I have chosen the plurals form as it takes many people to make up a family.--DarkLantern (talk) 02:16, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
- Merged and matter closed--DarkLantern (talk) 11:01, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Since this falls under a Naming Standard situation, I am going make the finial decision on this not just for this but for all of them. I have chosen the plurals form as it takes many people to make up a family.--DarkLantern (talk) 02:16, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
The merging of The Hobbit and The Hobbit: There and Back Again (voting closed)Edit
Motivation: Both articles are talking about the same thing. In the Bilbo Baggins article, the words "There and Back Again" are hyper-linked but lead to the The Hobbit. --Nognix 23:58, January 24, 2012 (UTC)
- I agree.--DarkLantern 00:02, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes.--Wyvern Rex. 09:32, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes Not much of a discussion here anyway. Winterz 01:02, May 1, 2012 (UTC)
- I've changed my vote and my mind. One is the book and one is the movie they should be kept separate. This consideration is closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 10:24, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
- Good call. There's enough confusion between books and movies without trying to fit all the info about entire movies onto the book version page. - Gradivus, 16:06, December 30, 2012 (UTC)
- I've changed my vote and my mind. One is the book and one is the movie they should be kept separate. This consideration is closed.--DarkLantern (talk) 10:24, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


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"While Sandy's lessons are still fresh, the president should be clear about the urgency of cutting carbon emissions and strengthening critical infrastructure to protect Americans against the rising costs of climate change," wrote Eileen Claussen, president of the non-profit Center for Climate and Energy Solutions.
And of course, environmentalists are hoping for a little payback.
In other words, they want some of the sweet, sweet federal taxpayer money. And here's Obama during his "look at how great I am" speech
"We want our kids to grow up in a world…that isn't threatened by the destructive power of the warming planet." -Obama #election2012
— HuffPost Green (@HuffPostGreen) November 7, 2012
I suppose the destructive power of cool or average planet is preferred.
(Treehugger) So, the agenda becomes: wake this man up on climate. Remember, he's still gas-happy, he's still probably leaning towards approving Keystone XL, and he's still opening public lands to fossil fuel interests. He's got to face pushback on each; something 350.org is glad to oblige. The climate action group is already planning a demonstration to remind Obama that Keystone XL would be a disaster for the climate. We'll need more where that came from.
Grist says
Don't expect strong, or even tepid, climate legislation in the next two years. Congress will remain divided and intransigent – the House controlled by Republicans, the Senate nominally controlled by Democrats but held hostage by a GOP minority all too happy to abuse the threat of a filibuster.
And that's the way the Founders wanted it: they didn't want a majority running roughshod over the minority. As I pointed out in the previous post, we will probably get a small push for hotcoldwetdry legislation, which might make it to the Senate, but, it won't go anywhere, because Obama won't bother doing the hard work, and Americans really do not want to see their cost of living skyrocket.
They also point out that GMO labeling lost in California. Fracking won't be allowed in Longmont, Co. And no dam busting in San Francisco. Here's the big one from the election
Our own David Roberts called this "the most important clean-energy vote" of the election season – so that's big reason to be bummed out that Proposal 3 got trounced at the polls by Michigan voters. The initiative would have upped the state's renewable electricity target to require that 25 percent of power come from clean sources by 2025. A front group for coal-reliant utilities spent nearly $24 million to scare voters away.
64% in Michigan said "hell no!" to Prop 3. Apparently they're tired of seeing their energy costs skyrocket and replaced with energy that only works part of the time.
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Frontierland more rugged and rustic? See, this baffles me. The trains running along the deciduous backwoods along the Rivers of America, with the Mark Twain or Columbia occasionally spotted through the growth, is about as evocative of frontier America as one is likely to find. I dare say that this is probably the most-loved section of the railroad, simply for the reason that for a few brief minutes, you are not in Anaheim any longer, but skirting the Mississippi of the 1850s.
The trains running through Fantasyland literally become part of one of its most cherished icons: It's a Small World. And when the trains enter Tomorrowland, they roll along under the Monorail beamways, effectively juxtaposing the 19th century steam trains with the (imagined) transportation system of the future
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Big 12 football: Ranking the bowl games
7. Liberty Bowl: Iowa State vs. Tulsa, 2:30 p.m. Monday, ESPN. The Cyclones and Hurricane played on Sept. 1 in Ames. They play on Sept. 21, 2013, in Tulsa. That means in a span of 385 days, TU and Iowa State will meet three times. Alabama and Kentucky are in the same conference and have played twice in the last 3,007 days.
8. Heart of Dallas Bowl: OSU vs. Purdue, 11 a.m. Tuesday, ESPNU. The worst possible matchup. A 6-6 team playing with an interim coach. Dudsville.
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Sometimes when models or celebrities start their own fashion labels, it's a cringe-party. Then there are a few exceptions.
Along with Nicole Richie, model Erin Wasson is one of those exceptions.
Her jewellery label Low Luv has been offering up costume jewellery for a little while now, and it's going from strength to strength. This season – unlike previous seasons that were heavily inspired by tribal patterns and pseudo-goth vibes – is much more difficult to pin down.
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SYLVANIA, OH - JULY 05: Shanshan Feng of China watches her tee shot to the second green during the final round of the Jamie Farr Owens Corning Classic at Highland Meadows Golf Club on July 5, 2009 in Sylvania, Ohio. (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)
China's Shanshan Feng beat the wind on Saturday to take the lead and now has a good chance of beating everyone else in the ShopRite LPGA Classic. Feng, who last year became the first Chinese player to win an LPGA Tour title and a major event in capturing the LPGA Championship, shot a marvelous 4-under 67 before the wind picked up and grabbed a three-shot lead heading into the final round. The round matched the day's best and gave the eighth-ranked Feng a 6-under 136 total. ''Right now I'm in good position this week, and if I can have some good results this week, it's definitely going to give me more confidence for next week,'' said Feng, referring to her defense of the LPGA championship. The wind was mild in the morning when Feng played and then gusted in the afternoon, leaving players second-guessing club selection and battling inconsistent greens, some of which dried out and didn't hold shots and others that were strangely receptive. The cut of 6 over was the highest on tour ...
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Gem Proof 1834 Bust Quarter, B-2, R.71834 Capped Bust Quarter PR65 NGC. B-2, R.7 as a Proof. The obverse is shared with the B-1 die pairing, while the reverse is unique to this marriage. On the obverse star 7 is repunched and points to the highest curl, while star 13 is low and close to the nearest curl. The reverse shows a large curl base 2 in the denomination, with the 2 higher than the 5 and three-line stripes in the shield. Line 2 of stripe 1 extends to crossbar 3. Other unique die attributes are noted below.
Same Die Pairing as in the King of Siam Set
Same Die Pairing as in the King of Siam Set
We believe that no more than 10-15 examples of the 1834 Capped Bust quarter exist in proof format, probably closer to the lower number. The B-2 die pairing is the same as the example in the King of Siam proof set. Steve M. Tompkins offers interesting comments in Early United States Quarters 1796-1838 concerning the reverse die:
"Along with several other known proofs, this combination of dies was used in striking the example found in the King of Siam presentation proof set.
"This reverse may have been produced especially for use with the above mentioned presentation sets. The central eagle master hub is distinctly different than all others in the small diameter series. The right wing is much taller and all of the eagle's feathers are in different positions. The lines and stripes are engraved at a slight angle as compared to all the other reverses as well. There is a possibility that this reverse may have been engraved by Christian Gobrecht and not William Kneass. Mint documentation for this has not been found, but due to the different style of engraving it is apparent that Kneass was not the engraver. Since it was still in good condition after striking the presentation sets, it was pressed into service as a regular production die along with the obverse. The first 10 or so coins produced could be considered either proofs or proof-like strikes until the die polish that was earlier applied wore away."
Although Christian Gobrecht was officially appointed second engraver at the Mint in September 1835 by incoming Mint director Robert Maskell Patterson, he had worked for the Mint in contract assignments for more than a decade by that time, so Tompkins' theory has plausibility.
This Gem proof example is fully struck, with light pinkish-gold and blue patina overall. There are no impairments or distractions worthy of mention. Another incredibly rare coin from this set, a prize for early quarter specialists. Census: 3 in 65, 1 finer (11/10). (NGC ID# 27HD, PCGS# 5382)
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Evansville native manages famous jazz man
Jeffrey Caddick maintains two seemingly completely different careers. You'll find his name on trade publications about refrigerated trucks for the dairy industry. And, yes, he's also the guy who owns a music production company and serves as the manager for legendary jazz drummer Chico Hamilton.
Caddick, 44, grew up in Evansville, attending Plaza Park Middle School and Harrison High School. He was entering his senior year as an accounting major at Indiana University in the mid-1980s when he began experiencing the kind of dilemma not all that unusual for college students facing life decisions. What was a little more unusual was his response.
"I thought, businesses are going to train you to do what they need you to do anyway. I could quit and have wasted three years or I could stay and find something to keep myself engaged," he said.
Caddick put his business knowledge to
work booking live music appearances in Bloomington, Ind., and the Midwest. Some of the acts Caddick booked have long been forgotten. But when Caddick booked Hamilton, a legendary jazz drummer and band leader, to play a small club in Bloomington, it was the beginning of a decades-long relationship that continues today.
He is the musician's manager and producer.
Caddick owns Hercules Manufacturing Co., a Henderson, Ky., company (originally begun in Evansville) that he bought from his parents. He works as the purchasing manager.
He has developed duel careers by helping move both the longstanding Tri-State company and the internationally known drummer's career and legacy into the future.
Hamilton said he was immediately struck by how together Caddick was when they first met.
"Jeff hired me to play a concert. I was so impressed with him that I told him, 'Listen man, if you are ever in New York give me a call,'" Hamilton recalled. "And he did. He came to New York."
Caddick has been Hamilton's manager since 1988, traveling with him when he can, booking shows, producing CDs and generally advising him.
"I don't say yes to something unless he says yes," Hamilton said. "He is more like a partner than a manager."
During just one week this month, Caddick woke up in Washington, D.C., on a Sunday, New York on Monday, Evansville on Tuesday and Indianapolis on Wednesday. Sometimes he is traveling to meet a client of the family business. At other times, he may be traveling to shepherd Hamilton through a performance or an event such as his recent appearance at the Kennedy Center, where Hamilton was honored as a living jazz legend.
"The only thing I don't do is play the music. That's his job. He lets me do everything else so he can focus on his music," he said.
Caddick didn't go to New York right away though. It took a few years.
Just days after graduating from college he got a call to come home and help with a family business. Caddick's father, George Caddick, owned Hercules at the time. He was also a car buff and had opened a store in Eastland Mall called Car Care Corner but a previous manager had caused it to flounder.
Returning home, he spent the next two years turning the store into money-making venture. Deciding to take a break, in 1988, he closed the store, sold off its merchandise and hit the road in a red Chevy Impala station wagon on a series of road trips. That's when he finally decided to drop in and visit Hamilton.
The visit led to an invitation to accompany Hamilton on a tour of Europe.
"I thought I would just be like a roadie, setting up and breaking down the drums and stuff," Caddick said. "But we got to England and in the first meeting we had with anybody, Chico introduced me as his manager!"
Caddick moved to New York to manage Hamilton's business affairs, eventually also landing a job as marketing director for a company that handled distribution for several record labels specializing in avant garde jazz.
He started working for Hercules again in 1993 and returned to Evansville permanently in 1995 but he kept his job working for Hamilton and promoting music.
"People always say 'oh, man, music - that must be fun compared to your other job.' But it is all the same thing to me," Caddick said.
In fact, his obvious appreciation for history and tradition provide a uniting theme between the two jobs. Caddick can speak as long and as enthusiastically about Hercules as he can about music. The company has been through many changes since it began in 1902 when William H. McCurdy moved his buggy company to Evansville from Cincinnati to make the buggies sold by Sears, Roebuck and Co.
Through the years, the company has built truck bodies, trailers and wood-paneled station wagons in various permutations. The popular "woody" station wagon bodies were sold to Pontiac, Packard, Oldsmobile and Buick. Between 1925 and 1935, the company was owned by another Evansville business, Servel Manufacturing Co., which mostly produced gas-powered refrigerators. During this time, Hercules first began experimenting with refrigerated trucks. Caddick's father purchased the company in 1957, moving it to Henderson. Today it builds specialized and refrigerated truck bodies and trailers.
Caddick recently discovered that some of the gas refrigerators built at Hercules' Evansville plant during its affiliation with Servel in the 1930s are still being used in some Canadian hunting lodges.
"I'm really proud of that," he said. "How many companies can say they have made something that is still in use today? Hercules built its station wagons with oak from the same wood supplier it uses today."
Caddick said he finds similar kinds of tradition and values in Hamilton's music.
"I feel a very strong connection to it because a lot of the values that are embodied by those people are for all intents and purposes over," he said. "Chico is always young at heart. As a band leader he has always had young people in his band."
Hamilton, who turned 85 in September, grew up in Los Angeles around the Central Avenue jazz scene and has been drumming since the 1940s when he worked with and toured behind numerous jazz and popular musicians including Count Basie, Lena Horne, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Nat King Cole and Sammie Davis Jr. That's Hamilton playing behind Billie Holiday on her "Lady Sings the Blues" and Carnegie Hall concert albums.
In 1987, he became a founding member of the New School University Jazz and Contemporary Music program in New York City and still teaches there two days a week.
His interest in performing live again coincided with meeting Caddick, who threw all his energy into bringing Hamilton back to the world's attention. To do so, Caddick decided to go outside the normal means of promotion and hit the Internet. He estimates that 95 percent of his job promoting Hamilton is done through the Web.
"A lot of effort went into getting him back on the scene," he said. "I was the one who did that."
But it has paid off, Hamilton was inducted as a National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) Jazz Master in 2004 and invited to perform at the White House for President Bush. In December, the Senate confirmed his presidential appointment to the National Council on the Arts, an advisory board to the chairman of the NEA. For his part, Caddick said, he just wants to bring attention to Hamilton and his music and give him space to create his music without worrying about anything else.
"An artist is going to be most successful when you allow him to be himself," he said.
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Pizza with Lamb?
OK, Aussies and Kiwis,
Do you make pizza with lamb? Any superb recipes to share?
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Ive tried this Syrian recipe before but never made it myself yet but it was delicous
Lahm bi ajine: Minced lamb pizza recipe : SBS Food
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Have you checked out these links on Pizza Quest? I think these are two amazing pizzas!
Let us know what you end up making! Take photos and send them to me and I'll post em up on PQ!
This is a Webisode we did with Chef Jensen Lorenzen at the Cass House Inn in Cayucos, CA. He made this pizza to mimic one of his lamb dishes that he serves in the restaurant. Came out great with a Lamb Merguez Sausage!
Jensen's Lamb Merguez Pizza
Here's the Finale of the series with Jensen where he serves Peter the Lamb:
Cass House Inn, Finale
Also, I was sent a great recipe from Jay Buonchristiani of Buonchristiani Winery. He has a WFO and this is one of his favorite pizza recipes. He sent me notes and I made this one up and paired it with one of his wines and it's truly a winner! Since I just got my WFO, I'm going to have to bang this one out again!
The Buonchristiani Lamb Fennel-Sausage and Mushroom Pizza
*When I can't get lamb, I've done this with Pork Sausage and it's wonderful as well.
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
I make a pizza with ground lamb that is a big hit at our house. I broil the lamb with a sprinkling of cinnamon and allspice, salt and pepper to taste. The cinnamon and allspice are light and reflect our family's Lebanese heritage. (Broiling meat means no dishes if you cover the pan you use in aluminum foil.)
I load it with onion (I always coat my onion in olive oil for pizzas as soon as it is cut) and use a bit of goat cheese with mozzarella, but what makes it awesome is sliced pickled sweet peppers. They give a nice acid to the pizza that just makes it awesome.
The sauce is a white mix I use of half Parmesan and half mayo, a touch of garlic and enough milk to make it come through a squirt bottle. I put it on over the toppings just before the cheese. It works great for any pizza with a white sauce.
We call it Kibbee pizza at our house. It's always on our menu when we have a big shindig.
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
Gudday Xene
Read you recipe and I had to stop a bit at first.
The term "broil" I had to look that one up. UK and Aust use the term "grill" for overhead heat. Were Americans use the term "grill" for heat from below. So it becomes a little confusing sometimes ... But I get it now.
You use " pepper" in the broiled lamb... Is that black or white pepper?
I tend to use white pepper in middle eastern recipes or any recipe that requires a bit of cooking time as the flavour survives. Black pepper I tend to add at the last minute as it doesn't survive heat too well.
Sweet peppers are what we call capsicum. I usually char the skin off and chop and preserve with a bit of olive oil in a jar for future use ( lasts in the fridge 2/3 weeks) How do you pickle them? Sound good!
Lastly( sorry full of questions) why do you put you onion in olive oil after it is freshly cut.
Regards dave
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
Hi go to my post on this thread. Made this last week. It was literally to die for.
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
Specific directions: Cover a small pan (mine is about 8 x 10) with aluminum foil. Move the rack to just below the broiler and turn the broiler on high. Break up the hamburger or lamb into small bite-sized pieces, the smaller the better, and cover the pan with meat. Sprinkle liberally with salt and pepper (add the cinnamon and allspice if using) and place under the broiler. When you can smell it (about 7 minutes) it should be checked, and if browning nicely, turn over with the fork and allow the other side to cook. When done, remove to container lined with paper towels to absorb any extra grease, remove the paper towels before heading out to make the pizza. Throw away the foil, rinse the pan if necessary. Make pizza. :)
When I don't use all of them I store them in the fridge and toss them into an omelet in the morning...superb, and they don't stink up the fridge.
Hope that helps!
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
Have you ever tried using something like a Tzatziki sauce for a lamb pizza? I like the idea of the pickled peppers....I think I would completely omit the motz, and use goat cheese and a bit of parm.
Hmmm...I think I will try this one soon.
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
The link further up in this thread is to a great sounding pizza with a tzatziki/yogurt sauce that sounds fabulous. http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/51/f...tml#post163041 #19
I use the mozz like glue, it holds the ingredients on better, the goat cheese weaker adhesive strength allows good stuff to fall to the ground if you aren't careful or consume too quickly. ;)
Re: Pizza with Lamb?
Hi Xene
Not only sounds good - IT TASTES BLOODY MAGNIFICENT, IF I MUST SAY SO MYSELF....;):D
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