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South Africa
The southernmost country in Africa, South Africa has the largest economy of all of the members of the African Union and a population of about 50 million. The country has three capitals. Johannesburg is not one of them, but it is the largest city and home of one of IBM's several locations in the country. CSC was deployed in South Africa in 2009. Locations have included Nelspruit, East London, Polokwane and Mpumalanga. Projects have been aligned with national agenda priorities of security and skills development. Local partners have included a non-governmental organization called Business Against Crime, the Mpumalanga Economic Growth Agency and the Mpumalanga Tourism and Parks Agency.
- CSC South Africa 1
22 April 1009 - 22 May 2009
"In April 2009, twelve IBMers from Australia, Canada, Finland, Germany, India, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, traveled to South Africa.
We worked with three clients in Nelspruit, which is the capital of Mpumalanga Province.Each project addressed a key challenge being faced by the South African economy.
The Business Against Crime team worked with the South African Police Service, private security companies, and other stakeholders to develop a strategy for how technology could be used to curb crime and promote tourism.
The Mpumalanga Tourism and Parks Association team devised an 'Airlift Strategy' for the region to drive tourism utilizing the provincial airport.
The Mpumalanga Economic Growth Agency teams got to know local brick manufacturers while helping them to operate more productively and received hands-on lessons from local businesses while doing a comparative study of local industries.
In addition to our work assignments, we also had the privilege of visiting the Maqamela primary school and the Mhulume secondary school. We were impressed with the insightful questions and talents of the 7th graders and inspired by the desire of the older children to succeed despite all obstacles.
Mpumalanga Province is breathtakingly beautiful and the team particularly enjoyed hikes to waterfalls and viewpoints, going on safari to see the local wildlife, and spending time getting to know each other and our wonderful client hosts."
- CSC South Africa 2
June 19 - July 17, 2009
South Africa Team Two's fourteen IBMers from eleven different countries worked with three agencies divided into six teams. The three agencies we worked with included Businesses Against Crime (BAC), Mpumalanga Tourism and Parks Agency (MPTA) and Mpumalanga Economic Growth Agency (MEGA.)
The IBMers working with BAC learned that South African tourism suffers from a severe perception of danger due to crime and corruption. With the World Cup approaching in 2010 this perception was particularly significant to many businesses there. During the course of their assignment, the three-person BAC team described a viable model for an SMS messaging system for tourists that carries safety tip messages; developed a prototype application for smart phones that can bring substantial value to the local tourist industry and tourists while simultaneously raising tourists' consciousness about common sense tips for avoiding crime; developed an outline for a safety best-practices guide that can be shared with local lodge owners; and articulated observations and recommendations concerning the incident reporting systems in use by local security firms and SAPs and provided a workshop guide to help these parties come quickly to an agreement about implementing a common incident reporting system and avoid potential obstacles in deploying and managing such a system.
The MTPA team's primary mission was to study ways to increase tourism and create sustainable jobs in the province of Mpumalanga. The project had two components. The first was to look increasing air traffic into Kruger Mpumalanga International Airport through the use of international charter flights and low cost carriers within the country of South Africa. The team developed a feasibility study and governance process for working with the airlines. The second component of the project was to develop routes and schedules for potential tourists. The team developed a variety of potential packages for length of stay and tourist interests such a historical, adventure, scenic and safaris that would be marketed to international travel agencies.
There were five of IBMers assigned to the Mpumalanga Economic Growth Agency (MEGA) and they were further subdivided into three separate projects. The largest of the projects, comprised three members, was tasked with consulting and assisting a local business, Cosmic Paints. They assessed the situation of the business and its key issues and gaps to success and then presented solutions. The other two projects dealt with evaluating potential foreign investment with one focusing on the citrus industry and the other on determining compatibility of partner countries. The first team delivered a package of solutions to Cosmic Paints, in addition to hands-on help setting up their accounting software and re-engineering their business processes. The latter two teams delivered an overview of the citrus industry including targeting specific investment areas related to the industry and a model for grading foreign countries either in their likelihood of investment in Mpumalanga or their potential as an export market for key products from the province.
Just about every participant in South Africa Team Two recalls the same two memories as their favourites. First, we all stayed in the same house together and cooked communal meals with a different country represented each night. Hilarity and international cuisine make a fine paring! Second, during the weekends we "adopted" a local school and raised a significant amount of money for school supplies - so within our CSC assignment, we did extra volunteer work that everyone felt great about. We enjoyed a sense of camaraderie and global citizenship that will stick with us for the rest of our lives.
- CSC South Africa 3
21 August 2009 - 18 September 2009
"Our team consisted of 14 IBMers from the UK, the US, India, Japan, Costa Rica, Brazil, Ireland, Singapore and Canada.
Through DEDEA, we worked with Kwam eMakana Homestay We analyed Kwam's strengths and weaknesses and provided an appraisal with recommendations on future options and operations. We also provided technical guidance on monitoring, evaluating and reporting for the tourism program in consultation with potential users. The project served as a tool to address users' problems and included their current practices and tourism projects.
For ECDC, we evaluated the business processes of their three core business units (Development Finance, Development Properties, Development Services) and supported Finance to identify challenges and provide recommendations in line with the strategic theme of ECDC (achieving growth through refined efficiencies & market leadership). We also focused on a marketing strategy. We evaluated the employee "engagement" of the brand and validated the proposed corporate core values. We also developed analysis of the organization's stakeholder and customer insights and recommended solutions for a more "customer-centric" approach to the market.
Our focus for RuLiv was an e-Governance Framework .We developed an e-Governance framework for the Emalahleni Local Municipality to use the Internet to engage citizen-users, citizens to engage their government, interact with the municipality and,register for municipal events or services online. This enabled the municipality to provide focus on day-to-day operations of the municipality, provide citizens and businesses with a higher quality service, and facilitate new and improved work practices and easier access to information.
Also, we assessed the current situation of Maqhashu Sorghum Belt Production Co-operative to understand the Co-op's core competencies, customer demand for Sorghum, and competition in the domestic market. We validated the Co-op's business vision, strategy, and goals, developed a sorghum production maturity model for capabilities assessment and goal setting,, provided a roadmap for immediate and long-term direction to achieve the Co-op's business goals and recommended supply chain core capabilities and practices.
The team also visited two grade schools, to conduct learning exercises with the 4th-6th classes.
One of our many memories was our safari trip to the Aldo Reserve."
- CSC South Africa 4
2 October 2009 - 31 October 2009
"South Africa Team 4 consisted of 14 participants from Japan, Singapore, India, Germany, Denmark, the US, Brazil and Uruguay. We converged on East London, South Africa.
We were a group of professionals who had never met, but were bound by the IBM DNA. We got down to efficiently dealing with our partners problem areas.
One team focused on developing a communications strategy for Promotion of Urban and Rural Livelihoods (RuLiv).
Another team worked with the non-governmental organization Eastern Cape Development Corporation. The team performed process optimization, marketing insight development through surveys and return-on- investment tracking and established processes for investment and trade promotion in the province.
A third team developed marketing strategies for the Eastern Cape Tourism Board, in partnership with the Department of Economic Development amd Environmental Affairs (DEDEA).
We also spent time at Isaiah 58 Orphanage and School. We helped the children have fun. We made personal contributions to the establishment by way of gifts, sporting equipment and monetary contributions. The team also visited a boxing and mentoring program for boys in Mdantsane township.
Many memorable moments were experienced by the team. What really stood out were the happy smiles on the orphans' faces and the fighting spirit of the boxers in training, which provided them with a positive activity and kept them out of trouble on the streets."
- CSC South Africa 5
12 February 2010 - 13 March 2010
"South Africa Team 5 consisted of 15 people from 12 countries and with skills ranging fromfFinance and operations to software development to process optimization to project management. We worked in teams of 2 to 3 people with six clients in the Limpopo region in the north of South Africa. We addressed strategic priorities, like job creation and rural development.
The Tiakeni Pottery team conducted a marketing, business and process analysis, assisted to apply for grant money to support the future of the pottery co-operative and delivered a business plan and a website.
The assignment for the team supporting ""Tremendous Primary Co-operative/Creative Minds"" included the creation of a marketing framework to enable increased sales of ICT training in basic to advanced computer skills through expansion of target markets and improved market penetration. In addition, assistance was provided in creating financials template to allow implementation of an annual budget.
The Seraki Blouberg Route team developed a marketing plan, website, and booking system, which laid the foundation for the cooperative to run a profitable business in the Hospitality (camping, self catered) and Attractions (natural attractions) Sector, benefit from the 2010 FIFA World Cup and provide employment opportunities for the local community.
Local Economic Revitalization through ICT in Tzaneen (RITZ) was a project with Centre for Economic Cooperatives (CEC) and Roger Layton Associates (RLA). The Team assessed the CEC business model and revitalized the "XtownX Tzaneen" mobile web access initiative.
The Small Enterprise Foundation, SEF, was established with a mission to fight poverty in a sustainable manner. The Team delivered an expansion strategy framework and toolkit, operational control recommendations and an ICT innovation recommendations for SEF.
The Mathabatha Village Bank team established sound financial management practices for the client, developed risk mitigation strategies and established a savings culture within the community.
Our team also had the privilege of visiting the Drop-in Centre for Orphans and Vulnerable Children. These kids, between the ages of three and 18, touched our hearts and impressed us with their vitality and eagerness to learn, despite their hard living conditions."
- CSC South Africa 6
27 August 2010 - 25 September 2010
"We were the second team based in Polokwane, the capital of Limpopo Province in South Africa. The team was made up of 15 IBMers from the USA, Canada, Peru, Brazil, Germany, Denmark, India, China, Japan and Taiwan.
We worked in groups of three with four organizations. We addressed technical and business challenges faced by the Limpopo economy.
For the Limpopo Office of the Premier, we developed a strategy and business plan for a Technology Innovation Hub.
The project with the Small Enterprise Development Agency encompassed a turnaround business strategy plan for a struggling food processing company.
A team developed a quality management strategy and database for the Small Enterprise Foundation.
At the Trade and Investment Limpopo, team members developed and implemented a business retention and expansion strategy for Limpopo.
Other team members enabled the International Operations Division of Trade and Investment Limpopo to improve its ability to attract investment and promote exports.
Outside of work, we participated in various volunteer events around the community. We visited Mapangula Primary School, Grace and Hope Center for Intellectually Challenged Individuals, and Hlatla Ganya Drop-In Center. During our visits, we were overwhelmed by warm welcomes and we met many people that inspired us by their dedication to succeed and serve their communities.
The CSC experience was a once-in-a-life-time opportunity immensely enjoyed by all team members. Some of the most memorable moments were spent with the entire team bonding and getting to know each other over a meal, a friendly game of volleyball or during a bus ride to one of our weekend adventure destinations."
- CSC South Africa 7
15 October 2010 - 13 November 2010
"South Africa Team Seven served on a four-week assignment in Polokwane, the provincial capital of the Limpopo region, which is also home to Kruger National Park. The team was comprised of 14 members from Brazil, Australia, Mexico, North America, Canada, the U.K, France, Italy and India.The team worked on five projects with four organizations.
With the Small Enterprise Foundation, the team explored implementing the function of coaching in the QA department.
At AMAREL Lab, the team determined appropriate organizational and management structures allowing for expansion and made recommendations for improvements in the fields of marketing, production and distribution.
For the Limpopo Information Technology Hub of the Premier's Office, the team completed a business plan started by a previous team, developed marketing and knowledge management plans and provided 28 recommendations in the areas of Operating Model, Sales, Quality and Marketing/Communications.
At the Trade and Investment Limpopo, two teams focused on the promotion of a Business Retention and Expansion strategy amongst local government, businesses and other economic actors in the Limpopo Province, and created recommendations for an integrated communications and marketing strategy based on knowledge management.
Over the four-week period, the team also worked closely with three orphanages and distributed food and clothing. There are too many memories to single out just one, but none of us will ever forget the time that we spent with the children."
- CSC South Africa 8
9 September 2011 - 8 October 2011
South Africa Team 8 consists of 14 IBMers from 10 countries: Australia, Brazil, Belgium, Canada, China, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, and U.S.A. The team completed four projects within one month in Polokwane, place of safety in Limpopo province.
One of the projects was to develop a strategy framework to implement ICT in all schools and a Proof of Concept for base level ICT for Limpopo Department of Education utilizing internal resources to ensure appropriate knowledge transfer.
Another peer team also focused on education, and delivered KidSmart Program Monitoring Tool and Professional Development Framework for Foundation Phase Educators.
UNDP team developed a business and implementation plan that includes the design framework for an integrated information management system for the Limpopo Department of Health that will improve evidence-based decision making, planning, and resource allocation.
Peakanyo also got assistance in increasing their market share and competitive advantage. The assignment included creating manufacturing process mapping strategy, marketing and communication plan; and client/opportunity tracking system.
The team visited a number of schools and donated uniforms, stationery, toys and food for one of the poorest school in Limpopo. The smile faces of the children are one of the most beautiful memories for all the teammates.
- CSC South Africa 9
23 February 2012 - 24 March 2012
South Africa Team Nine served on a four-week assignment in East London, a city on the southeast coast of South Africa, situated in the Eastern Cape region - birthplace of Nelson Mandela. The team was comprised of 14 members from Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, Germany, India, Mexico, and the USA. The team worked on four projects with three organizations.
Two teams were working for the Eastern Cape Department of Education. One of the teams developed a performance monitoring tool for the IBM KidSmart Early Learning program. The other team provided consulting on how to improve the electronic data collection in schools to get more reliable surveys and reports.
Another team helped the Eastern Cape Rural Finance Corporation (ECRFC) to improve its loan repayment strategy for micro credits granted to farmers in rural areas.
The fourth team worked on creating a leadership development framework. They spent time with a number of organizations and collaborated extensively with the University of Fort Hare, the oldest historically black university in South Africa.
As a cross-team engagement the members also volunteered for building up a number of new KidSmart systems in elementary schools.
With the assistance of the IBM CSC Organization, CSC alumni and the in country NGO partner, South Africa Team Nine were able to experience the richness of the South African culture. Extra curricular activities included living within a self sustaining indigenous community, visiting townships and interacting with the local communities.
- CSC South Africa 10
15th March 2013 - 12th April 2013
15 IBMers from 12 countries for 4 weeks in Pretoria: One of the most incredible experiences of our lives!
Our team, much like the rainbow nation itself, was a diverse one. Different countries, backgrounds, years of experience at IBM - and only one month to get the work done (and get to know each other better). Our team worked for four clients in Pretoria and Johannesburg:
- Fair Trade in Tourism: The team had to design the architectural framework for a database tool to collect monitoring and evaluation information of tourism businesses.
- PEN: The team developed a business plan and strategy for the Inner City Pre-school Forum Village who assist and support informal nursery schools in the city centre area.
- UN Women: The team designed an MIS (Management Information System) to monitor and evaluate the progress of small and medium businesses owned by women.
- Human Sciences Research Council: This team developed an operational model and proof of concept for a large scale, mentored mobile learning project. They also worked closely with SAIDE (South African Institute for Distance Education)
Our schedules were hectic - but there was always time for fun! On holidays and weekends we met the kids at IBM SA's Saturday School program, went on a safari, visited animal reserves, shopped at the local craft market and did a bit of travelling and sightseeing.
Our team also visited the Orlando Children's Home in Johannesburg. Towards the end of the assignment, we donated food, clothes and stationery to the children the PEN team worked with.
The SA Team 10 truly had a whale of time. We only wish we could all do another CSC assignment after this!
- CSC South Africa 11
February 21 - March 21, 2014
10 IBMers from 7 different countries (Canada, Czech Republic, Japan, India, Nigeria, UK and US) were deployed in Pietermaritzburg, capital city of KwaZulu-Natal province, South Africa. The team worked on three projects in the field of education, healthcare and public administration.
One team worked with the KwaZulu-Natal Education Department to find ways on improving delivery of quality education through the introduction of Teacher's TryScience, a resource kit and teaching methodology designed specifically for foundation level educators to enables educators to totally revolutionize their teaching methods through design-based lessons, which apply scientific, mathematical and technological solutions to engineering problems.
Another team was exploring new innovations in data collection and digitalization for Keth'Impilo public benefit organization, providing chronic disease management (HIV/AIDS and TB) and psycho-social support interventions. The recommendations also covered patient advocate and overall staff development and training, as well as possible enhancement of relevant processes and management systems. The outcome could potentially contribute to a further development of overall services in the overall community healthcare ecosystem.
The third team assisted the Monitoring and Evaluation (M&E) Chief Directorate of the Office of the Premier of Kwazulu-Natal to further increase accuracy, validity and reliability of collected data that give the Office of the Premier needed information to provide a better life for all South Africans living in the Province.
- CSC South Africa 12
13 June – 11 July 2014
The 12th South Africa CSC Team arrived in Johannesburg, South Africa in June 2014. A team of 14 IBMers came from 8 countries -- Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Costa Rica, India, UK, and USA – and called Mafikeng home for a month. Mafikeng is the capital city of the North West province, located a few hours north west of Johannesburg on the Botswana border.
We performed work for a single client, Ikamva National eSkills Institute or iNeSI. They are a national catalyst in the development of e-skills for South Africa.
The team was divided into 4 sub teams, each with its own objective:
- Identify the core theme for the North West Collaborative Laboratory (CoLab) and develop an action plan for its establishment.
- Evaluate considerations for a national rollout of the KwaZulu-Natal CoLab's e-skills program and explore uses of technology and Big Data Analytics for effective Government services delivery.
- Recommend approaches for developing a shared understanding of the iNeSI strategy among its multi-stakeholder collaborative network and for an e-Readiness Programme and Fund.
- Advance iNeSI's monitoring and evaluation by developing a roadmap that aggregates the uptake of technology and designing a technical dashboard.
The expected impact of our work with iNeSI is that the lives of South Africans will be improved because they will have skills in which they can compete in the global knowledge economy marketplace and they will have better access to services from government, business, and education people. This will drive higher and more sustainable income for individual South Africans and their families and grow South Africa's competitiveness in the world.
When not supporting iNeSI, the SA12 team made the most of our time and amazing location in South Africa. We shared a heartfelt morning with mentally handicapped kids at the Bophelong Special School and an enlightening session with the students of North West University on career paths, technology, and personal development. We spent weekends touring the North West province, on safari at Madikwe, visiting Sun City, shopping at craft markets, and enjoying local cuisine.
- ESC South Africa 1
7-29 October, 2011
In Johannesburg, the IBM team developed a five-year public safety strategy in line with the city's 2040 vision of a smart city. During the three-week project, the team conducted an intensive review of existing initiatives and operations - key resource challenges, such as funding, expertise, and inconsistent business community support were identified, along with execution challenges and structural challenges. Five key safety elements were identified together with details of how crime prevention and investigation, asset management and infrastructure safety, crisis and emergency response, community education and engagement, and governance and integrated intelligence would integrate into a single roadmap for comprehensive community safety.
The team of six IBM executives came from Brazil, the US, Belgium and India.
The Executive Service Corps delivers Smarter Cities Challenge grants to cities around the world. Learn more about this program on our website: smartercitieschallenge.org.
- ESC South Africa 2
4-26 October, 2012
The city of Tshwane, South Africa, has a very strong mission to provide increased services to its people, accelerate economic growth, build sustainable communities, and ensure sound governance in its affairs. Water and sanitation are a big concern, as is the case in much of Africa, and the city has asked the IBM team to advise on two areas: non revenue water loss prevention management, processes, equipment, technology and monitoring throughout the water service delivery value chain; and options to improve integrated management of non revenue water loss.
The recommendations by the IBM team centered on appropriate water access for all residents; establishing community awareness programs; creating strong linkages between water, energy, housing, health, transportation and the private sector; and leveraging real time water analytics to assist in their decision making as they continue to update their aging infrastructure. While city management has done much to address their water management concerns, they have a chapter of transformation ahead of them to ensure all residents have water and sanitation services in a cost effective manor and water loss is significantly reduced.
The IBM team of 6 executives came from the Netherlands, Canada and the US.
The Executive Service Corps delivers Smarter Cities Challenge grants to cities around the world. Learn more about this program on our website: smartercitieschallenge.org.
- ESC South Africa 3
3-25 October, 2013
During a three-week period in October 2013, a team of six IBM experts worked in Cape Town to deliver recommendations around key issues for Executive Mayor Alderman Patricia de Lille. The IBM Smarter Cities Challenge® team was asked to address the following question: How can the City of Cape Town effectively use and manage its social assets to optimize service delivery?
The team responded with a holistic, far-reaching approach. Its core recommendation is for the City to define a broad program to institutionalize integrated, citizen-centric social service delivery. The program should focus on the organization, asset lifecycle management, data analytics, design thinking and change management tools and systems that are associated with social assets. An integrated program will help the City to better achieve social and economic objectives by maximizing value from its assets. The outcome will be more integrated, citizen-focused services that deliver benefits through more efficient and effective utilization of current and future social resources, which, in turn, will release operating expenses to more directly serve citizens.
The IBM team of 6 executives came from Australia, Canada, and the US.
The Executive Service Corps delivers Smarter Cities Challenge grants to cities around the world. Learn more about this program on our website: smartercitieschallenge.org.


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Playoff NBA Picks: Indiana Pacers vs. Chicago Bulls Game 2 Preview
- Updated: April 18, 2011
After taking a 1-0 series lead by a relatively narrow margin in Game 1, the Chicago Bulls will be back at it in Game 2, and they'll hope to put together a better showing against the Indiana Pacers. Our Game 2 NBA picks are sure to cash in on this one, so don't miss out!
Give the Pacers all of the credit in the world for the way that they came out of the blocks in Game 1 of this series. They led for the first 40+ minutes of the game before finally yielding to a strong Chicago comeback. However, it is clear that Indiana has absolutely nothing to hold its head down about. The team went +4 in the turnover department against one of the best teams in the land in holding onto the rock, and it shot 46.4 percent from the field and 55.6 percent from beyond the arc against one of the better defenses that the game has to offer. Danny Granger had a great game with 22 points, but the men of the hour were a bit surprising. Tyler Hansbrough, a man which had never played a playoff game before in the league, came up with 22 points against a great frontcourt. Darren Collison also really busted onto the scene with 17 points, nine assists, and six rebounds. Still, when push really came to shove, the Pacers gave everything they had, but it wasn't enough to claim a victory in the Windy City.
We keep preaching just how important rebounding the basketball is, especially in NBA playoff betting action. The Bulls had an amazing 21 offensive rebounds and 49 in total for the game to help them survive a brutal Game 1. Head Coach Tom Thibodeau, a defensive mastermind, cannot be happy with the way that the Pacers really had their way with this Chicago 'D' in the first half, as they scored 55 points. However, that rebounding advantage wasn't the only key stat. The Bulls as a team shot 26-of-32 from the charity stripe, and a lot of that was thanks to the efforts of soon to be NBA MVP Derrick Rose. Rose went 19-of-21 from the foul line and 10-of-14 from inside the arc, giving him 39 points for the day. He also had six boards and six assists, and all of that goodness more than made up for the fact that he shot 0-for-9 from beyond the arc. Kyle Korver picked up the slack there, as he hit four three balls and really took over the game when the comeback was on in the fourth quarter. Both Joakim Noah (10 points, 11 boards) and Luol Deng (18 points, 10 boards) had double-doubles on the day.
Indiana Pacers vs. Chicago Bulls Pick: We just have a hard time believing that the Pacers are going to shoot the ball this well against Chicago again. The rest of what went the Bulls' way will continue to do so without a shadow of a doubt, as the Pacers just don't have the rebounders to be able to bang on the glass. This one might be close for awhile, but when push comes to shove, Indiana will relent. Take the Bulls -11.5.
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Olive Branch hires trapper to control beavers
Olive Branch city officials acted Tuesday night to do something about their beaver overpopulation, which could lead to a flooding problem if left unchecked.
The Board of Aldermen voted unanimously to hire DFT Wildlife Control to trap beavers and remove them from city drains and drainage right-of-ways.
The city took a similar measure in 2008 and hired a different company to remove beavers. They also were suspect in flooding problems in the Maywood area years earlier when a flash flood was thought to have prompted a beaver dam to break. During the storm, water reached the front door of a home and got into a garage.
"There's so many of them," said Alderman Gil Earhart, whose ward includes Maywood, where the homeowners' association pays to trap beavers in the area's many lakes. "We're not going to get rid of them."
But making a dent in them should help prevent future flooding, officials say.
"We're just going to get them out of all the ditches so the water will move quicker," said Alderman George Collins, who had to hire a removal company on his personal property. "They're pretty cute until they mow down all your trees."
While private property owners must deal with beavers on their own, the city can act on publicly owned property or in ways that foster the public good.
DeSoto County officials also have acted to control beavers, spending money for each beaver trapped.
Olive Branch's one-year contract with DFT Wildlife pays $400 per beaver to the company. Brad Witt, DFT owner, said the beavers are trapped by permit and disposed of using humane methods according to state guidelines.
The beavers will still flourish in rural spots. The city is drawing a line, though, where beaver dams could cause flooding.
"We can't put up with them in subdivisions," Collins said.
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CES 2013: IBM wants to connect your whole house to its Cloud
A big theme at this year's Consumer Electronics Show (CES) has been the connected home. There are televisions connected to the Cloud; refrigerators connected to the Internet; heating, lighting and security systems connected to sensors and monitors. And IBM wants all of those devices to be connected to its Cloud.
Hottest Android news and rumours for the week ending January 11, CES-style
ZTE and Huawei took home most of the device-related headlines from this year's International CES in Las Vegas, which didn't exactly provide an earthshaking amount of Android news for a show of its size. Nevertheless, the companies both demonstrated strong new offerings, and other players, including Samsung and Sony, made their own hardware-related waves.
CES 2013: Diary of a CES Noob, Day 2
As old CES hands like our own Keith Shaw advised, Tuesday was orders of magnitude more busy than Monday. Now the show had a crush of people to go with its gargantuan physical scale. All the booths were put together and running, everyone's gear was on display - the effect was overwhelming.
CES 2013: Diary of a CES noob, Part 1
CES is one of the few big techie events that I was at least moderately familiar with before I started working here at Network World, less than a year ago. I always thought of it as the nerd playground to end all nerd playgrounds, with years-from-release technology available to the eager gadgeteer.
Can Intel save the Ultrabook?
Ultrabooks made a big splash at last year's CES, but sales over the course of 2012 were disappointing. Intel yesterday made a determined bid to change all that.
- Netgear launches its first Cloud-based IT service platform
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- Technology is not the biggest security problem: CompTIA
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Judo/Sambo UnderGround >> Judo ground rules difference from BJJ?
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anthonyMI wrote:My guess is that white belts aren't allowed to do armbars in order to force them to get better at holding top position before going for submissions. "
No, it is so they won't spazz out and injure each other. Also, learning how to control uke (and themselves) by learning oseakomi first before they start choking and armbarring.
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FreestyleJJ - That is fair, unless the guys head is only 1 inch off the ground and that's all the higher you can get him. Tori doing the armbar is in no danger in this situation, so I think it's very unrealistic to stop under those circumstances.
Yeah, I wish the rule was, "when Tori's head comes higher than knee height of Uke matte must be called" or something. Maybe "Matte can be called when Tori's head is anywhere between Uke's knees and hips. When Tori's head is at Uke's hips, matte must be called immediately."
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Edited: 06/21/10 10:55 PM
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Why did judo eliminate strangles with the lower end of the lapel? Bjj uses these strangles to loop the neck all the time, as it adds a lot more opportunities for choking,thus making ne-waza much more appealing and interesting for everyone involved. Oh and to this day, I have yet to see anyone in bjj seriously injured because of it,therefore it must be one of those techniques that was just eliminated becasue the ijf does not want to even waste time investigating it. it's much easier to just omit it in judo,instead of finding a solution.
Oh and about the possiblities of slaming someone because you pick them up after applying a triangle.....why not just penalized the person who picks up and wants to slam,like they do in most bjj tournaments? instead of eliminating the multitudes of various different armbars and attacks that can be done from the guard?,one only has to penalize or disqualify the slammer ,(if he decides he wants to slam)not eliminate or penalize the actual technique. Everyone in bjj knows the rules and follows it to a T(judo could do the same),therefore no need to eliminate the possiblity of a well place triangle or armbar from the guard. It is obvious that the only reason they stand up is to get a break,why not learn how to stand to break posture instead? no one hardly ever tries to slam in bjj because everyone knows the rules and the possible disqualification. Sorry but judo has it backwards,It seems to me that judo just eliminates techniques when in doubt. I can understand kani bassami and the like or your own head spikes from uchi-matas,since they have been proven to cause real danger but some other techniques that have been eliminated over the years,I just don't get it. Judo has missed so many opportunities over the years to really caprture its audience and olympic fans.
If too much leg grabbing became a issue why not penalize the constant false attacker action,instead of eliminating a classical judo technique that has been around since the inception of the art? crazy
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judo has it backwards, not bjj?? wow, lets examine that...
you try an armlock or triangle and i pick you up off the ground, or i lift you just a bit (it doesnt matter how high really) and i decide to slam your head into the hard concrete, wood, brick, or anything else nearby... yea, some good the armlock is going to do then.
in some regards, judo sees the application of newaza in a specific manner-- one that is much more realistic in this secenario. if you are supposedly good enough to get me in the triangle or armlock then you should be equally good enough to keep me from picking you up. if you cannot keep me down, then you should face the risks of it. since it is incredibly dangerous to slam somebody from that position, they call matte... not to necessarily save the guy who is standing, but to save the guy who is trying to apply the newaza.
personally, i'd be just fine if judo, and bjj, allowed the slams. i think it is an entirely valid technique and should be seen as a wonderful defensive strategy.
part of the skill in an armlock or triangle is to get, and keep the guy on the ground, if you cant do it, then screw it.
further, you know nothing about the IJF and the rules of Judo and why they are the way they are. BJJ is a sport that is so fragmented and so controlled by a Brazilian mob that any form of legitimacy cannot even be found. it is taking USA Wrestling and USA Judo to step into the fray in order to make bjj get something legitimate going on. I've been to more crappy run bjj venues that are just totally unsafe, full of outright egomaniacs, and have just horrible referee certification/education/consistency.
yet, yea.. go ahead and try to pick on the world's top combative sport so that you can try to feel good about something. the truth is that no matter how bad things get in judo during a short period of time, there is an established governing body that can, and will, make changes as they see fit. BJJ can only wish for that.
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Edited: 06/22/10 1:07 AM
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JR,Now all of the sudden you want to apply real world self defense applications to a sportified judo grappling match? give me a break,Since when does judo care about it's translation of a judo match to a real fight? what are you now going to use reverse phsycology and use bjj's usual defense mechanisms to defend judo? I am really only interested in being able to see and apply technical grappling techniques in a grappling setting. If you don't think there is much technique in applying armbars while in the guard,(while someone picks you up),then you don't follow much bjj or high level grappling. If I was interested in real fighting ,then I would fight mma or get in a street fight.
Also, for all you think I don't know about the ijf or judo,I do know that they did not install that particualr rule because it was a real reality of the real fighting world. The ijf was definetely not relating it to "what would happen in a real fight" when they bannned it and they defnitiely were not thinking like some gracie in it's relationship to a real fight,when they came up with this rule. lol
so please give me another break,Your rambling also did nothing about giving me a good reason for eliminating choking with the end of the lapel. I could care less about defending judo or even bjj for that matter,as I just like to call it like I see. Hey man, there is alot of rules in bjj that I personaly dislike(never said it was all just great and dandy)doesn't mean that I have to get into a verbal insult match,everytime someone dissagrees with bjj rules.I just made a comment about a couple rules not about you personaly,so please chill out.
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1. you made the comparisons to bjj in terms of why judo disallows things, i replied.
lets get a few things straight, judo's rules have been around long before those of bjj. never, not once, has judo ever allowed chokes with the bottom of the lapel. judo does not want people wrapping anything all the way around the neck that cannot be immediately and easily removed. imagine if somebody didn't tap, or for some god-forsaken reason had their neck snapped and you had to unwrap the entire lapel noose from the neck. enough said.
sure, the skill of applying an armlock or choke from the guard is obvious-- that's why they have always been a part of Judo. but, in the idea of SPORT, and not trying to kill or cripple people, if you do not keep your opponent on the ground then judo calls matte... afterall, this is a ying-yang question.. let's look at it really.
person 1: tori should have kept uke on the ground. if he is truly skilled in the guard submissions then tori shouldn't be able to lift him. if tori can lift him then it would be fair game for uke to slam him if the submission is continued. we don't want that, so, call matte as it is a dangerous stalemate.
person 2: uke should be formed to learn the esacpe "properly" and there is real skill in finishing the submissions even when lifted off the ground. thus, no matte should be called.
person 1: well, daike age is a valid technique. it is listed in the Kodokan. in fact is it the most effective counter-technique to the situation. if you are going to allow submissions in those positions then you should give uke every chance to protect, defend, and win the match the same as tori.
person 2: ?????? durh... scrathes head. yes, daike age is in the kodokan, but...
see, the argument doesn't work. if it is good for the goose then you must allow it for the gander. you don't want that. you want an unfair balance just like what bjj allows. but, bjj is 100% about the submission whereas Judo is about 75% about the throw and 25% about the newaza.
you can complain all you want about that, but it is the true. complaining about this aspect is akin to getting all mad that your pet snake bit you.
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"person 1: well, daike age is a valid technique. it is listed in the Kodokan. in fact is it the most effective counter-technique to the situation. if you are going to allow submissions in those positions then you should give uke every chance to protect, defend, and win the match the same as tori."
I agree with this, but most of the matte's I see are where the guy applying the armbar's head is 1 inch off the ground. Do you really think daike age is effective 1 inch off the ground? I certainly don't. I would gladly let someone slam me that far off the ground.
Example situation that I'm imagining: The armbar is set, extended. Uki goes to try to yank out of it and lift. Tori underhooks uki's leg, so uki isn't getting anywhere with daike age. He still gets tori's head 1 inch off the ground, so matte. This is the example I think should be eliminated. Uki really needs to learn to defend properly instead of relying on this.
I don't feel like I would be in any danger. So in this case, I don't agree that the uki being armbared is learning the proper defense. He should be pushing in to keep his arm from being straighting and locking his hands up like a RNC until he can get his elbow free. Instead, he's learning to abuse a rule to get out.
I'm not really concerned about bjj in this context, other than it could be fixed too maybe. Also to cite the fact that people get picked up all the time high in bjj without getting slammed. So there's a track record of this idea being done safely if you call a daike age matte once the person is lifted high enough. I personally enjoy both sports, and appreciate them for what they are, and don't want either drastically changed(except maybe for those new rules). I do enjoy the conversation with you guys about viewpoints on the rules though.
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Slamming (daike-age)is not the only option,counter or defense to a armbar from the guard.As a matter of fact it's probably the less technical move(although effective at times)there is. Have you ever heard of stacking someone and not having to stand up at all?,along with maybe a thousand other options on the ground to diffuse a armbar or triangle from the ground?? Have you ever heard or seen someone stand up in a bjj tournament and hold tori upright, all while shaking him off gently,while maintaining great balance and posture? It happens all the time safely in bjj and no matte needs to be called,why? because there is alot of times that a armbar can get effectively applied,even thou you are being picked up and you need a safe format or avenue in which to practice this or else you will never know how to apply armbars and triangle when you are being picked up. I think you should look into other options besides just daike-age as a defense.
Another interesting tidbit is that even in mma where slams are indeed allowed,these armbars or triangles sometimes work,why? because they were applied effectively enough that even a pickup does not save uke ass. I think that for every mattt hughes slam (like the one he did to carlos newton ),there always is a bunch of other great examples of fighters getting caught even after trying to pick up tori to slam his opponent inorder to defend.
So, if we come to the conclusion that it's a 50/50 scenario on wether armbars work (if someone is allowed to slam), how do fighters get so great at applying armbars and triangles,even thou they are being picked up? well most guys that are great at this specialty come from a safer sportive grappling background that allows you to practice and perfect armbars in a safer enviorement even thou you are being picked up. In other words, most of the guys that you see in mma that do land a armbar or triangle effectively (even thou his opponent is allowed to slam him),usually come from a bjj background which allows you to learn how to effectively apply this in a safer manner.
Here is a perfect example of how to defend properly without having to slam someone on their head,when slamming is not allowed.
Also,under a no slam format the person applying the amr bar gets to also practice his armbar or triangle when he gets picked up,so that you learn and know how to apply it efectively when in fact you are getting picked up.Example of this in bjj and even in mma (were slam are allowed) are too many to even start posting.
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Edited: 06/23/10 10:08 AM
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Also ,In bjj you end up learning how to dissengage properly and let go in a safer manner (when someone is picking you up)because the right set ups to armbar are not in place. Learning the feel of releasing safely (which is another correct defense to being slammed) is something that you will never learn if matte is always called, whenever uke stand up to defend.
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first.. NF.. I would gladly bet donuts to dollars that in terms of newaza, and tachiwaza, that i more than have your skill and knowldge covered. dont pretend to lecture me about the proper ways to do x, y, or z unless you are talking calculus.
DA is just as proper and just as technical as anything else. sure, it can be done in a poor manner, just like anything else, but do not discount a technique based on how bjj percieves it. that is a weak argument and proves my point completely. you are not judging things on their own merit, but on your altered perception of the merit.
the reason why people in bjj "learn" to escape things the way they do is because of the rules, but because the system is better. if they allowed DA do you really think that people would be keeping hold of the triangles and armlocks? Durh! training is a direct result of the rules, if and when you alter those rules you also alter the training methods. BJJ disallows DA and does not even attempt to recognize it as a valid technique, so they allow the newaza to continue into tachiwaza.
Judo sees it differently. most rational people would say that Judo sees it in a more natural, real, safety-concerned way.
now, why the 1" thing... that's a better question, but one that I can, again, answer. 1" is all you need to really ef yourself up. that's why.
1" is enough to arch your entire body under uke in an attempt to complete the armlock, which in turn can result in spinal injuries.
1" is enough for me to slam you back down to the tatami and fall into you, potentially hurting you or us both.
1" is enough for me to throw you flat onto your back with force, speed, and control-- essentially an ippon. height of the throw does not matter in Judo, this is not freestyle wrestling. scores are judged on their own quality application.
1" is enough for me to show that i am able to lift you off of the tatami, essentially ending newaza.
So, the choice is simple for Judo... DO they allow DA and either risk injury or "those kinds of ippon" throws, or do they disallow it and then have to call matte for that and safety reasons...?
simple enough.
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Newaza freak - Why did judo eliminate strangles with the lower end of the lapel? Bjj uses these strangles to loop the neck all the time, as it adds a lot more opportunities for choking,thus making ne-waza much more appealing and interesting for everyone involved. Oh and to this day, I have yet to see anyone in bjj seriously injured because of it,therefore it must be one of those techniques that was just eliminated becasue the ijf does not want to even waste time investigating it. it's much easier to just omit it in judo,instead of finding a solution.
good question about loop chokes, but why do i have stay on ground in bjj, why can't i slam the person if they jump guard, why can't i slam the person who just holds the guard, why i am penalized when i don't run into someone guard as they sit on their ass. and don't get wrong i love bjj, judo, and sambo but they all have siily rules. all grappling arts have rules that are conceived for that style of grappling. i wish we could back to days catch wrestling. btw i already but thread out why and how silly rules come about
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JR, do you really think someone is going to get hurt off a 1 inch slam?
Over the years I've been slammed in that situation a bunch of times where I have a triangle or armbar, but I've underhooked the leg so they can't lift me very high, and all it does it make the hold tighter and they end up having to tap out. Usually against wrestlers or judoka who weren't told they couldn't do it ahead of time, since I'd rather them be convinced that what I'm doing is effective, and I'm not worried about that height. If they start to get me higher, I let go of the technique and try to avoid the slam.
And, would an ippon throw like that really be in the spirit of the ippon? You could techically classify it that way, but isn't the spirit of an ippon to be a fight ending throw, "death blow", essentially? So I agree it meets the technical requirements, but I can't really see that being in the spirit of the rule?
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Do you really have to resort to telling me just how much more knowledge and skill you have than I do? Boy ,it sounds like your years in judo have really helped you understand the complete humbleness dept.Does every dissagreement here with you always have to end with your credentials being thrown around as sonme sort of verification for being right?. I have never questioned your skills or even your knowledge ,as a matter of fact, I have never even questioned you personaly ever at all,yet in the past, you have always questioned my skills or experience or lack there of . I would worry(not really),if it was only me but I see this is some sort of pet peeve with you and the way you express yourself with everyone, so I don't sweat it. Either way, let's get back on topic.
You like to express how much you do infact know about ne-waza,yet you make the comment that the only reason that bjj people have to resort to other methods outside of DA(slams) to get out of a tight armbar within the guard is because of it's rules. well my friend, either you don't know as much as you think you know or you have not been allowed (because of the rules that you practice under)to experience certain realities within this topic.
Assuming you are caught in a tight triangle or amrbar on the ground and if you know anything at all about this scenario,you then must know that even slamiing someone,sometimes,does not always alleviate or get you out of this situation,why? because sometimes it is on so fast,hard and quick that by the time you are pickiing him up, you are almost out ,as in lights out.So DA(slams) are not the only solution for all cases.As a matter of fact it could be the wrong solution at times depending on just how tight your caught inside the guard. Therefore, a slam is not always the best solution to the problem.The best solution could be to lean back or even gently stnad up while keeping great base and posture,why? because with a slight foward motion or momentum as done with a DA(slam)it would only end make things worse. I am not saying a slam won't work (ofcourse it can work)if allowed but many times the movement for slaming down only helps to tighten the armbar grip and or the trinalge choke around your neck.if your best defense is only to look for a stand up inorder to get matte called ,then how would you ever even learn how to defend the attempt when slamming might not be the best answer to the solution? Picking someone of the ground "slightly" almost never causes injury for "experienced" players and like I said bedfore slamming is not a 100% certainty foul proof defense. All you have to do is look at mma today to see this played out were slams are allowed,in fact just how many people go out in a mma match when trying to slam their way out of a triangle or armbar?. Again, I am not saying it won't work or that it's not a effective defense but I have seen many times when fighters in mma get caught whne they should have defintely opted instead to methodicaly and slowly worked their way out instead of going for the slam that sealed their own fate.
learning how to deal with this sensitivity(which is not allowed in judo)allows you to try to make the correct decision for the right application.
Judo forbids slams from within the guard anyway,so it's not like you allow it anyways. Why could you not just allow it to continue,maybe even among just black belt divisions,if safet is a concern? If slamming is not allowed ,how are people going to get hurt?why penalized someone that has completely positioned himself and locked in a tight triangle,just because he stands up.I think I just outlined how a slam is not a sure 100% defense ,although it can.
Grapplng sports are supposed to be technical sport(or so it should be in the eyes of some) and if someone locks in a tight armbar or a tight triangle, I need to figure out a more technical and efficeint way of getting out,instead of just looking for the referee to help me out or slamming my way out. It is not a mma match or a street fight,therefore a real world street application should not come into play,especially if it hampers the advancement of ne-waza finishes.
How much more exciting would it be for fans to see judo players submit their opponents from within the guard, if they make a tactical or mental mistake and get caught inside the guard? Once you get caught, you still have many otpions on how to get out, even thou you made a mistake.It's just that becuause of the judo rules,there is no need to learn them So,can we atleast agree that slamming is not your only solution to this problem.
I think I made a valid case as to the importance of why we must all learn how to apply other options, once you get caught inside the guard.
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No. you didnt. and, if you want to know why i will mention experience levels, well, that's obvious too... experience means something. in fact, it means a lot. how can you argue a topic that you have little experience in?
i cant argue with people who have actually done true hisotircal studies of Kano's writings from the Kodokan. i cant argue with my cousin about radiation quantities released from an MRI machine as i am not a medical physicist. I also cannot argue about how to bake a wonderful cake as I am not a pastry chef.
so, the question about what your qualifications are does matter. in fact, it matters A LOT. any idiot can come onto the internet and sounds like s/he knows something when in fact they are spewing trash. while i don't think you are spewing trash, i dont think you are too far above that.
you are discounting the validity of a technique just becuase you prefer something else. yes, that's a smart argument. you are then dismissing the reason why the IJF takes the stance they do in regards to newaza stoppages and not even addressing their philosophies behind it, but instead just giving a buch of craptastic "that woundn't hurt anybody" arguments.
the truth is that the IJF sees newaza as newaza and tachiwaza as tachiwaza. they have valid reason to believe that allowing one person to be engaged in newaza while another is engaged in tachiwaza can lead to extremely dangerous situations. have you taken on that philosophy? No. Not even remotely.
Then they have adapted a strict line on the matter. the moment uke lifts tori off the tatami. it is a zero-tolerance policy, which in all walks of life tend to be very solid lines that people simply know they cannot argue with. having that be a grey area puts risky decisions in the hands of officials, zero tolerance does not. simple solution in an otherwise very difficult situation to judge.
So, in the end, you can think of me as an egomaniac all you like, it doesnt matter to me one bit. but, credentials do matter, and they matter a lot. honestly, i think yor opinion of the situation is very ignorant and limited to your own, highly personal, point of view. that means it is very subjective and not at all objective.
in other words, it is a waste of time-- like getting into an argument with one of the 7th grade girls in my pre-algebra class who thinks that i should raise her grade because every day she comes into my class and doesnt talk as much as she does in her other classes.
i am approaching this discussion from a point of view that is trying to understand why judo's rules are waht they are and taking into account the complete safety of all participants. i am also considering the rules of the sports and how those govern the way athletes train. yet another thing you have discounted, which is actually silly of you.
the truth is that if you put equal level judokas and bjj guys on the same mat together you will see a huge difference in physical development, intensity, and training. the rules of the sports are what created these differences. to think that the rules for each should be similar is just stupid. they see similar situations from nearly inversed points of view. to suggest that one is more right than the other is just something i cannot tolerate.
you should now go judge golf by the point of view of an NFL linebacker. you'd have just as much success and authority.
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I personally would prefer to keep bjj out of the discussion. I agree, comparing the two is a waste of time and they shouldn't try to be like eachother. The only reason I have or would reference it is as an example of the safety of being allowed to lift someone up. I also agree on the physical developement and intensity with judo. I usually would think judo and wrestling have more in common than judo and bjj in regards to how they approach training and intensity, both being takedown oriented sports.
From your own statements on this thread JR, Judo is a sport that has been around a while and will continue to exist to see rules go in and out of existance. So why not look at it from that perspective? That's all I'm talking about is potential rules changes within judo without worrying about bjj. I see a deficency in the rule as it stands personally. Watching Camarillo or Canto vids where they show complete technical mastery over someone with their groundwork, but have to beat the guy 3 times before it's considered a win, because their opponent is hiding behind a rule. That doesn't seem right to me.
"Then they have adapted a strict line on the matter. the moment uke lifts tori off the tatami. it is a zero-tolerance policy, which in all walks of life tend to be very solid lines that people simply know they cannot argue with. having that be a grey area puts risky decisions in the hands of officials, zero tolerance does not. simple solution in an otherwise very difficult situation to judge."
Couldn't the line be drawn with simply "no slaming" with zero tolerance? With height, it is absolutely dangerous with to slam someone during a submission. Their neck is the first thing to hit every time. You could still be allowed to lift someone up violently to get out, but zero tolerance for slamming. Matte when you get them up though.
"the truth is that the IJF sees newaza as newaza and tachiwaza as tachiwaza. they have valid reason to believe that allowing one person to be engaged in newaza while another is engaged in tachiwaza can lead to extremely dangerous situations. have you taken on that philosophy? No. Not even remotely. "
Some of the best stuff in judo is the blending between the two. Throw, straight to pin, throw to armlock, etc. This also happens with flying juji-gatame. One guy is attempting newaza while the other is attempting tachi-waza. So I don't think those are absolutes really. Just kind of thinking aloud there rather than trying to make a point.
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Edited: 06/25/10 9:45 AM
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Well let's see now, I have been doing judo off and on since the early 70s and bjj for the last 12 years. How much more experience do you think I really need to have, just to be able to give you a silly opinion on this forum? A opinion none the less that has in fact come up multiple times in the past in various disscussion forums related to bjj and judo? Maybe, it's your inflated opinions of your own overexagerated qualifications that do not allow you to see the big picture here? by your own accounts you probably think that you are the only qualified person to speak on judo behalf,which is really funny as hell.
It works both ways,as I can look at your personal stand on this issue and simply think that your opinions of judo are very,very limited but I refrain myself from comming on the internet and spewing that sort of venom back at you. Everytime you get backed up to a wall you start questioning peoples experience,(instead of just staying on topic) you are so predictable it's pathetic.Instead, I am really just interested in talking or elaborating on the both arts that I enjoy and practice. Just because someobody does not agree with a particular rule or even some of the rules in judo does not nessecarily mean they hate judo or dislike judo. hell, like I said before, I dislike some of the rules in bjj,it does not mean I hate bjj.
It's seems like you are into this whole trip about how judo is so much superior than bjj,while I really could care less about all of that and see the good out of both arts and do in fact practice both. I believe that you tend to think that both arts should never be intertwined,while I, on the other hand think that it would be really cool if they could some how meet in the middle and make a vastly superior artform by combining the best of both worlds. I will not elaborate anymore with you on this topic,(one which I think could be a great and interesting disccusion),since you tend to want to take it to a personal level ,as always.
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I love this Resnick's ability to get people riled up!
In summary:
"I think that the new rules for kata gururuma are unnecessary."
JR: Fuck you! All sports have rules that change all the time and players must adapt to the rules. It's not a big deal.
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"I think lifting a person up 1 inch during an armbar should not be grounds for stopping ne waza."
JR: Fuck you for suggesting a change in the rules! Rules should never be changed!
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You are holding on to dear life to my exact wordings or lack thereof in regards to this topic,when in fact one does not need to cling on to every little detail in a disscussion by holding people accountable for every little word.It really has no bearing on the actual subject matter,as I agree, I could of used better wording in getting my point across,so just for you... I will elaborate once again and hopefuly amke you understand my exact reason for my questioning this matter
Choking with the end of the lapel has always been allowed in bjj. I personaly have been submitted by it and have had the ability of being able to land it myself on many ocasions. I have also seen it displayed various times over the years in various bjj competitions over the years and have yet (honestly) never seen anyone seriously hurt or injured(maybe passed out)by this sort of choke attack. Contrary to your opinions ( which you did infact clearly said),it is not such a easy skill set to obtain,as the leveragel points for this choke must be just right and practicing and attaining this skill set is similar to any other choke involved with a gi. Alluding to the fact that it has no skills involved with it,shows me that you have never tried it on people that know how to defend it or even people that don't. The skill set is like anyother choke were one has to have everything set in place angle,position,leverage,bodyweight making contact in the right place.
I personaly (yes I said it) have never seen it allowed in judo from my own personal experience. I also doubt that it has ever been allowed in actual judo competitions but I also find it hard to believe that somebody at some point in time(thruout judo illustrious history) has not ever done it or tried it and I doubt that you can also vouch for the same thing. My only question was why, it is not allowed? when in fact it has been shown to be pretty safe in bjj competitons.
I could really care less if it was never allowed in judo or if they took it out at some point or whatever. why is it not allowed point blank. Even, if it has never been part of judo somebody somewhere must have tried it for somebody to eventualy say it should not be allowed. who made that decision? and why?
Now, is that such a insultive type of question that really deserves no clear cut answer? I don't think you have a legitimate answer or you would have given me one,yet you keep insisting on wanting me to give you my opinions on the tai-otoshi thread,which I clearly already answered for you?
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Edited: 06/26/10 12:29 PM
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So, I guess It's safe to say that you defintiely don't know why it's not in judo Yet, you are very opinionated about not wanting it in judo at all, why? So inconclusion, A)you don't know why it's not in judo and B)you don't know or can't figure out why you personaly don't want that technique in judo either? I believe you talk a lot of mumbo jumbo but you dodge the direct question perfectly. Oh and by the way, my old time judo sensei thinks tournament judo today is all F%^&*Cked up and I agree with him,sensei is always right,remember?
You also claimed that it does not exist in judo,yet a couple of people have already told you that kashiwasazki sensei demonstrates it in some of his judo books,is kashiwasaki demonstrating non-judo techniques in his books now?
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"This also happens with flying juji-gatame. One guy is attempting newaza while the other is attempting tachi-waza."
No, you are wrong again. A flying armlock is not newaza. It is tachiwaza, just as a standing armlock is tachiwaza. There are two ways it works legally in Judo... 1. you finish the armlock in teachiwaza or 2. you use the motion as a skillful entry into newaza and then complete the armlock. To use the armlock, or a submission to force uke into newaza is illegal in Judo.
Throwing into a sub or a pin is NOT combining tachiwaza with newaza. It is one person successfully doing one and then the other. They do not happen at the same time.
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RG... and by now you'd think that people know that I will do that, just for the hell of it. but they don't they keep getting offended and taking it serioulsy.
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NF... I know a ton of guys who have been doing Judo since before I was born. Most of whom I knew better Judo than by the time I was 15 and would not allow them to instruct my own children for even 15 minutes. In other words, your saying you have done Judo since the 70's... Well, okay. That means what exactly? That you are older than me? Because it certainly does not speak to the experiences or quality of anything having to do with Judo.
You have alo been doing math much longer than I have-- are you qualified to teach HS Algebra, Geometry and Advanced Algebra? I have no idea... but, simply stating that you've been doing math longer than I have does not at all mean you are qualified to do anything in specific.
I think you get my point. And, anybody wit a lick of salt to them knows that qualifications matter a whole lot when it comes to such matters.
Congratulations on the 12 yaers of BJJ too.. I've played with it myself since retiring from competitive judo. It's fun. But it certainly doesn't mean one has any advanced understanding of newaza as a part of competitive Judo.
Now, you can make all the arguments against this and against that and get all up in arms about things you personally do and do not like... Congratulations on that. You have been successful. There is a golf clap in your honor somewhere.
But, with your vast experience you'd think that the wisdom to answer your own questions would've made even asking them a silly thing to do. So, seeing how your 35 years in Judo has been insufficient enough to actually answer these quetions for you, perhaps you should go back and READ THE ANSWERS that you were given. If you agree of disagree with them is your problem, not the IJF's, not the Kodokan's, not mine, not anybody else's... only your's.
Your questions and arguments have been answered time and time again, i don't care if you don't like the answers... Then you should've learned not to ask the questions. 35 years of Judo should've taught you that, and if not the years in Judo then just the years in life.
Beyond that, I don't care if you like the rules or not, tough cookies on that. There are rules that I don't like, but that doesn't matter one bit either. You don't see me acting like a whiney little baby over the rules. I am man enough to take a set of rules and figure out how to work within them...
Perhaps you need to reach that point?
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Edited: 06/26/10 7:20 PM
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So let me get this straight,you "judo elitist",is going to finally concede that something does infact exist in bjj that does not exist in judo? C'mon man,you are losing ground here a little.Judo elitist everywhere are turning in their graves,only because this is such a pivotal non debatable mother of all no no's, when it comes to debating bjj/judo history. I vote for you to change your stance on this issue right now,if only for the sake of all your possible future arguments and possibly even all your past ones. lol
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Since when do you have to be a highly competitive elite judo player inorder to ask a simple competition judo question? We are not talking about teaching algrebra or even geometry here,we are simply asking a simple competition judo question and no(definite no) you have not given me a qualified answer as of yet.I did not come stating that I wanted to teach anyone judo or that I even wanted to lecture anybody on judo,so please stop putting words in my mouth. The last time I checked,I don't think you need to be a math major in order to ask a simple math question. furthermore in every known recognized human sport,even measly fans(that don't train or even practice the sport) are allowed to ask simple rule questions about the sport in question. I honestly feel that you have not even given this question much valuable thought, as you simply felt right away that some bjj troll (who does not understand judo) is just questioning your beloved sport that you dearly love.
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