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When Labour was turfed out of government in 2010, leadership wannabe Andy Burnham said the party had been "in denial" about immigration and had failed to grasp that many voters felt that under Gordon Brown, it had failed to address the issue.
On a visit to Kent as part of his leadership campaign, I asked him if he felt the party had remained in denial in 2015.
Unsurprisingly, he denied it, saying the party had beefed up its policies and had addressed concerns about welfare tourism by advocating a policy in which arrivals would not be able to claim benefits for two years.
Events in Calais have, however, only served to underline that Kent, as the 'Gateway to Europe' is at the sharp end of the debate.
Rolling footage and photographs of migrants clambering on to lorries destined for Dover or Folkestone reinforces the belief of many that the situation remains volatile and we are only a few steps away from some kind of invasion.
Add in the chaos caused to the county by the implementation of Operation Stack (caused by A wild cat industrial dispute) and it is hardly surprising that Labour struggles to get much traction on the issue.
The party's problem is this. It wants to be tough on immigration at the same time as wanting to continue to support open borders and the principle of the free movement of labour.
All the while that it does, it exposes itself to the charge that it is facing in two different directions and that is precisely why it has haemmorrhaged so much support to UKIP. The public tend to lump together genuine asylum seekers with economic migrants - they are all part of the same stream that have set up camp in Calais.
At least Andy Burnham has acknowledged that Kent is vital to the party's prospects at the election in 2020.
Although it is worth remembering that during the election campaign not a single senior party figure made it down to Kent, where it had two target seats and suffered a crushing defeat in both.
Meanwhile, Conservative MPs Damian Collins and Charlie Elphicke have laid the blame for the recent choas at the door of the Calais authorities - specifically the town mayor Natasha Bouchart.
Both have lobbed a few well-targeted political hand grenades in that direction, accusing the town's leaders of being complicit in allowing migrants to travel across the channel to the UK.
No doubt they thought it would help the Conservative cause.
But it was slightly undermined when Prime Minister David Cameron said it was not helpful to point fingers as the government tried to build a consensus with its European partners about what is, after all, not exclusively a UK/French issue.
Tags: migrants, Calais, immigration, Folkestone, Dover, Elphicke, MPs, Cameron
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There is not much that will set back the spirits of the irrepressibly cheerful Nigel Farage, so it was no surprise to hear him in a particularly upbeat mood the morning after Ukip won the Rochester and Strood by-election.
The margin of victory was not, however, quite as large as the polls or betting odds had suggested it could be. Not that this stopped the leader declaring the outcome meant that the general election was "beyond comprehension" and "everything was up in the air." (He also said he would have been happy to win by one vote).
However, you can't say everything is unpredictable in one breath and in the next assert that there is a distinct prospect of your party winning more seats in Kent - it is logically inconsistent.
The result in Rochester and Strood does nevertheless underline that Ukip has momentum and it is momentum the other parties are struggling to halt.
Kent is now its most significant power base of anywhere in the country and it is continuing to show that it can mobilise highly effective campaigns where it chooses to.
But fighting a single by-election with your "people's army" is one thing; deploying the same kind of resources at a general election is something else, which Farage has acknowledged.
That, incidentally, is not just a challenge for Ukip. It is one for the Conservatives who next May will face precisely the same issue. Mr Cameron won't have his infamous kitchen sink available and neither will he be able to make five visits in as many weeks.
Ukip's chances of holding on to Rochester and Strood are uncertain: some bookmakers have made the Conservatives odds on to regain it, which goes some way to explaining why the Conservatives were not quite as depressed or inconsolable when the result came in.
In Kent's case, Ukip will target a handful of seats where it has a better-than-evens chance of an upset. Oddly, I suspect that Thanet South, where Farage is the candidate, may not get quite the same level of attention because he is already the red hot favourite to win.
But Folkestone and Hythe, Sittingbourne and Sheppey as well as Thanet North and Dover and Deal are all in their sights.
For the Conservatives, the danger is that tacking to the right in an attempt to out-Ukip Ukip risks alienating its more Euro-phile MPs and activists. It is interesting to see that two Kent MPs used the by-election to argue the party should move in the other direction to the centre ground.
Ashford MP and former immigration minister Damian Green said at the weekend that there is no reason for the Conservative party to decide that slithering towards Ukip is the route to success."
Meanwhile, Thanet South MP Laura Sandys said the by-election result offered the party the chance to move to the centre ground - which is where elections are commonly won.
Ukip will be quite content to see these divisions exposed as it will allow it to depict the Conservatives as split on the key electoral issue of whether the UK should rush for the EU exit door.
Whether it can, as Nigel Farage claims, hold the balance of power after next May is altogether a different matter.
Despite its best efforts and a candidate who impressed, Labour had little to celebrate in the by-election. It wasn't that it fought a bad campaign - although it should have focused more on the NHS.
Its vote was squeezed by Ukip and to a lesser extent, the Green party. The row over the white van man's flags was not a factor because it came too late but does exemplify that it is alienating some of its core traditional voters, a place Ukip has jumped in to with alacrity.
Speaking to Labour figures about what they feel they need to do, you often hear them say that they need to communicate better.
This implies that if only got their message right, everything would be well in the world. The problem is that you can have a solid message but unless you have a receptive audience ready to listen, it's worthless.
The party reminds me a little of the Conservatives under Ian Duncan Smith, the man who uttered the immortal words that the quiet man was "here to stay and is turning up the volume."
Three weeks later, the party dumped him.
Did Mark Reckless invoke the spirit of Tony Blair in his acceptance speech after being declared the by-election winner. "You are the boss, you must never let me forget that," he said.
Rewind to Tony Blair's victory speech after becoming PM in 1997: "We are not the masters now, the people are the masters. We are the servants of the people.We must never forget that"
Tags: UKIP, Mark Reckless, Nigel Farage, by-election, Rochester, Strood, Cameron, Kent, Thanet
There is every chance that the Conservatives can win Rochester and Strood. But it won't happen next Thursday, barring some kind of sensational upset.
The momentum is with Ukip, as it has been for most of the campaign, and it is hard to see the Conservatives producing a major game-changer between now and next week.
Despite this, Conservatives remain - at least publicly - pretty upbeat and you can still find a few who think they could yet upset the odds and emerge victorious.
That was clearly behind the appeal by David Cameron for people to vote for the Conservative candidate Kelly Tolhurst - regardless of what party they supported. Was this the last throw of the dice in their campaign? It seemed that way.
The plea for a rainbow coalition to stop the purple wave was surprising - especially coming from the PM - but my sense is that it has not struck a chord with the other parties. It is true, as Mr Cameron suggested, that by-elections are different to normal elections and voters are more likely to switch allegiance.
By-elections are occasions when normal political logic goes out of the window. However, the notion that Labour supporters will hold their noses in the ballot booth and put a cross against the Conservative candidate just doesn't ring true.
The reaction to his plea suggested that there is not much enthusiasm for the idea from those it was aimed at. Somewhat inevitably Ukip was thrilled, depicting the call as desperate and an admission that the Conservatives cannot win on their own.
Nigel Farage delighted in telling a rally on Thursday that he knew things were going well for the campaign not because of the opinion polls or bookmakers but because Mr Cameron was pleading for support from people who would normally vote for other parties
So, if the outcome of Thursday's by-election, why might the Conservatives find some consolation?
It came in the latest opinion poll whose top line was that Ukip were 12 points ahead for the by-election but which also found there could be enough support among voters next May to see the Conservatives regain it from Ukip.
In the light of what looks like a disappointing night to come, it is a small crumb of comfort for the party which has lived up to its promise to chuck everything at trying to win the by-election but seems destined to come off second best.
The Labour campaign can not have been helped by the on-going whispers against Ed Miliband. Having a mini leadership crisis in the middle of a by-election is - to state the obvious - not exactly helpful to any party.
Still, it has continued to send down some of the party's big hitters and locally, its activists have been busy pounding the streets and knocking on doors. And its candidate Naushabah Khan has arguably been one of the more confident performers in hustings and in media intervieiws.
But despite this, the party's standing in opinion polls have gone down since the start of the campaign - a reflection that sometimes events can conspire against political parties in ways that are totally beyond their control.
It is puzzling, however, that the party strategy has not been more heavily focused on the NHS and the on-going problems at Medway Maritime.
One reason may be that in doing so, the party could be perceived as criticising frontline staff who are its own supporters.
Tags: byelection, Rochester, Strood, NHS, ukip, Farage, Miliband, Cameron
It was interesting to hear Ashford MP Damian Green speaking up the pro-European wing of the Conservative party today on the Andrew Marr show and yesterday in The Times. There probably aren't too many votes to be had in the by-election from talking about the positive side of belonging to the EU - which explains why Ed Miliband and David Camerom are both tacking to the right and talking loudly about immigration.
So, why is the Ashford MP speaking out now? My guess is that it is a pre-emptive move not designed for voters in Rochester and Strood. In the event of losing the by-election, there will be a furious debate about which direction the party needs to go in, and the clamour will be loudest from those who think that the only way forward is to out-Ukip Ukip .
Mr Green wants us to know that there are still a considerable number of Conservatives who actually support the EU and think the country benefits by doing so.
Their voices are a little muted just now and will be so until November 20. But they are anxious not to be completely steamrollered when the debate about what direction the party will go in gets underway after voters in Rochester and Strood have had their say.
Labour has a tricky job on its hands to convince voters it has a credible policy on immigration and the issue is inevitably centre stage in the Rochester and Strood by-election.
It has clearly decided that on balance, it is better to try and confront the issue head on rather than ignore it.
This week's visit by Ed Miliband and shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper was aimed at trying to underline a policy which balances the party's bellief that immigration has been good for the UK and at the same time, has been bad for the UK. This "two for one" policy is hard to sell to an electorate which in the current climate thinks that the pendulum is stuck on the bad side.
In ramping up the immigration rhetoric, it risks being seen as dancing to UKIP's tune and alienating its own core supporters.
The biggest credibilty gap, however, is not what its policy is today but what it was when it was last in government.
When asked about its failings over benefit tourism and failure to stop unrestricted numbers coming into the UK, Mr Miliband said "You don't get everything right in government."
Unfortunately for Labour, not enough time has passed for voters to forget its rather poor track record and with just three weeks before polling day, is highly unlikely to convert undecided voters.
It has been a mixed campaign for the Conservatives to date but at least it now has a candidate in place for the by-election.
Kelly Tolhurst, a life-long local resident and Medway councillor, won a two-horse race, edging out Anna Firth in a postal primary that didn't quite ignite the public in the way the party perhaps wanted.
This was probably down to the rather compressed timescale for the election of its candidate as much as public indfifference. The party clearly hoped that the primary would enable it to differentiate itself from UKIP, where Mark Reckless was installed with no vote by members,
But I am sceptical about whether voters will go into the polling booths with the process of selection uppermost in their minds.
And the time it has taken to complete the selection has arguably given Ukip a free run in the campaign for several weeks. That precious commodity of momentum is still with it, as the recent ComRes poll illustrated.
The result was closer than expected. Kelly Tolhurst was the favourite - particularly given her local roots - and impressed a lot of people with her passion and enthusiasm. But she is being thrust into a political cauldron and the media will be scrutinising her every move and utterance.
The pressure on her will be immense and it is likely the party machine will be making sure she is not too exposed. Let's hope she will not be too carefully managed.
Slightly surreal moment of the campaign so far: Ed Miliband talking to a pink bear in Rochester yesterday - no, not a real one - that would be really strange - but a charity fundraiser. It led to a comment straight out of The Thick Of It by one of his aides, heard to say: "Bring the pink bear over now."
Tags: byelection, UKIP, Rochester, Strood, Miliband, Cameron, immigration, Damian Green
We were promised that the Conservatives would blitz Rochester and Strood with the party's big hitters and hundreds of activists and for once, no-one can accuse a political party of breaking its pledge.
The frenzy of activity will reach a new level this weekend when the Conservative machine deploys a reported 1,000 activists to Kent to drum up support for a still unknown candidate.
Buses will be bringing down this army from London to distribute leaflets, knock on doors and generally remind us - as if we needed to - that there is a byelection going on.
There is every chance that they will bump into Ukip activists, who are doing much the same with supporters coming from outside the county to rally behind its candidate.
For the Conservatives, this strategy is all about signalling that - unike Clacton - they will not roll over and are going to be putting up a fight to stem Ukip's purple wave. It is as much about the deep loathing for Nigel Farage as it is for defector Mark Reckless.
And there is clearly no love lost between the Ukip leader and Mr Cameron, who said that if voters plumped for Ukip "all they are doing is giving Nigel Farage the chance to have a long gloat in the pub."
Much of this activity is designed for media consumption, of course, but you do wonder if the high-intensity strategy might prove counter-productive if it carries on at such a velocity until November 20.
For the Conservatives, the risk is that while it will be effective in shoring up support from core supporters, it gives the impression that it is concerned about the outcome. Cameron's own personal involvement means that if Ukip does produce a coup, his leadership will come under the spotlight. I suspect that the game plan is as much about trying not to lose badly as it is about trying to win.
The other risk is that the scale of activity only serves to remind supporters of other parties lacking similar battalions of activists (and deep pockets) that there is an election going on.
Still, anyone who does not like politics or politicians may be advised not to answer the door for the next four weeks.
The Conservatives deserve some credit for opening up its selection process to all voters in Rochester and Strood, although the compressed timetable has rather limited the amount of time for residents to get to know the two who were shortlisted well.
Its big event was the hustings meeting this week in the Rochester Corn Exchange, which was open to everyone. That is everyone but not journalists from the national media.
They were kept out as party managers had decreed that only local media could attend, which meant myself and Radio Kent.
This provoked some tension behind the scenes, with Professor Tim Luckhurst from the Centre For Journalism,- who chaired the event, along with invited guest Dr Sarah Woolaston MP, suggesting unsuccessfully that the ban be reconsidered.
It wasn't and the net result, unsurprisingly, was that the national media turned away at the door rmade the ban the focus of their reports rather than what was said at the meeting.
And to rub it in, managed to get a transcript of the event anyway.
In fact, both candidates acquitted themselves well and had interesting things to say, not least on immigration.
Whoever gets the nod will be in a high-pressure political cauldron for four weeks and under forensic scrutiny from the media.
This week's hustings could have been useful acclimatisation.
Professor Luckhurst says the Conservatives made a mistake in having only selected media present.
"I believe the Conservative Party's decision to exclude from the hustings journalists from national newspapers and broadcasters was foolish and entirely unnecessary. Freedom of speech is a core democratic principle and no political party should restrict it."
When Labour leader Ed Miliband turned up in the County Town of Maidstone last year for the county council election campaign, he did so to demonostrate that there were no "no-go" areas for the party.
It's early days but in comparison to Ukip and the Conservatives, Labour appears to be taking a low key approach to the fight for Rochester and Strood. No single comment has come from a senior member of the party's leadership about the election to date.
Perhaps it is waiting for the Conservative bandwagon to run out of puff.
You can't draw too much by way of portents for November 20 from a council ward by-election where only one in five voters bothered to exercise their vote but Ukip notched up a small victory in Kent this week when it romped to victory in the Sheppey Central ward in Swale.
And it was pretty comprehensive, too with the victoriuos candidate getting nearly 60% of the vote.
Tags: Ukip, Rochester, Strood, Mark Reckless, byelection, Cameron, Medway
Categories: Conservatives
It's no surprise the by-election battle looming in Rochester and Strood is shaping up to be one of the most acrimonious and fiercely-contested in British politics for decades.
The vitriol pouring from Conservatives towards Mark Reckless is an indication that they will fight tooth and nail to see him off.
The stakes are high: for UKIP, a win would give their prospects at the general election a huge boost. For the Conservatives, victory would send out a strong message it is capable of resisting UKIP's purple wave.
So, who will get over the finish line first?
Why UKIP could win:
Why UKIP could lose:
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Tags: UKIP, Mark Reckless, Conservatives, Cameron, Farage, by-election, Kent, immigration
Categories: Medway | Rochester | Strood
With the kind of chutzpah you tend to expect from politicians, David Cameron declared that his reshuffle presented the best of modern Britain, which begged the obvious but unanswered question as to what sort of Britain we have been living in until this week.
Still, the reshuffle threw up enough changes to satisfy the hungriest of political commentators and observers, not least in the departure of the much-maligned education secretary Michael Gove, who will now get first hand experience of the challenge faced by many teachers every day - handling an undisciplined group of disinterested people.
For Kent's MPs, it proved to be a mixed bag. The much heralded cull of stale middle-aged males led to the unexpected sacking of policing minister Damian Green, the Ashford MP. What had he done wrong? Nothing at all.
Even the hard-nosed Police Federation lamented his departure, surely a first. But he fell into the political demographic being targeted by the PM and paid the price - the irony being that as a moderate, progressive Tory he no doubt believes that Mr Cameron may be doing the right thing in freshening up his top team. Having said that, in replacing Mr Green with Mike Penning - who is the kind of stale male Cameron wanted to cull, he is entitled to be a little perplexed.
He is not a natural rebel, with consensual tendencies but his note of defiance in a tweet was intriguing, announcing that he would continue to fight for what he believed in. What could it mean?
Also heading for the exit door is the Faversham and Mid Kent MP Hugh Robertson, widely praised for his stint as Olympics minister.
He decided to stand down as foreign office minister to take stock with his family about his future, which leaves open a variety of options. Having had arguably two of the most interesting ministerial briefs and overseeing the London Olympics, he may consider that he won't top that unless he gets a senior cabinet role. Might he decide to leave politics? A possibility as he has never made secret that he would like the chance to try his hand at another career.
Anti-fracking groups will no doubt be celebrating the departure of Sevenoaks MP Michael Fallon, who has landed the role of defence minister after a lengthy parliamentary career and who may owe his elevation partly to his Euro-sceptic tendencies.
The question is whether anyone will, come May 2015, care two hoots about this reshuffle? Cameron is obviously concerned that many regard his government as being made up of a privileged, public-school educated male-dominated elite who, despite their protestations, have no real grasp of the daily challenges of "ordinary hard-working" families.
I seriously doubt anyone will go into a polling both next year, reminding themselves that the PM changed his top team to include more women. Voters are not stupid and tend to see through this kind of opportunism but you can understand Cameron's dilemma. If he had stuck with his hand rather than twisted, he would have handed his opponents an easy target.
On balance, it seems the right thing to do but it also runs a risk. Some of those promoted are unknown quantities and lack experience at the top level. And beyond the confines of Westminster, there is a large constituency of stale males in their fifties who may feel ratheraffronted at being written off.
UKIP no doubt already has them in its sights.
Michael Gove's departure as education secretary is said to have prompted high-fives and cheers in staff rooms up and down the length of the country.
You might also have heard a smallish cheer at County Hall, where the relationships betwen KCC and the DfE have been slightly fractious to say the least. KCC started the ball rolling by joining a High Court challenge over the cancellation of various building projects under the BSF scheme scrapped by the coalition.
More recently, there has been the vexed progress - or lack of it - over KCC's attempts to create a new grammar school annexe in Sevenoaks, which Mr Gove seemed rather cool about.
Where the new education secretary Nicky Morgan stands on selection is anyone's guess. But KCC will be extending the hand of friendship to someone who they hope just might be more sympathetic to their plan.
Tags: reshuffle, KCC, Gove, Damian Green, Hugh Robertson, Cameron
Categories: Politics
Maria Miller's resignation was predictable the moment it became clear that many of her Conservative parliamentary colleagues were not happy about her staying in her job and were taking flak on the doorsteps from voters who were questioning why she hadn't already been sacked.
And as the days went on, more Tory MPs were prepared to say publicly it might be better if she went - effectively questioning their leader's judgement and his inistence that she could stay in the cabinet.
The judgement was made by David Cameron that because she had been cleared of the central charge, she ought to be allowed to stay on.
Despite Cameron's emphasis on this point, the finer technical details on which a committee of MPs delivered this verdict went unnoticed by many - or was delibarately ignored.
That is part of the problem with accusations of political sleaze. The public - much to the exasperation of MPs elected in 2010 - were largely oblivious to the fact that her conduct and claims were being judged against the old regulations, not the new ones which have tightened many of the loopholes gratuitously abused by so many former MPs.
Fair or not, there was enough in the standards committee report - not least the charge that she had sought to frustrate the inquiry - to give her opponents ammunition. She did not do herself many favours with her perfunctory apology, a PR car crash by anyone's standards.
It is telling that as a result of this episode, politicians from all parties are now falling over themselves to talk about the need for further reforms to the expenses regulations - having told everyone back in 2010 that they had devised a foolproof set of new rules that would restore the integrity of politicians and be impossible to circumvent.
The public backlash over the saga is not just about Maria Miller but a wider feeling that our elected representatives still play by different rules. Unless they can address that, distrust will remain.
The forthcoming European and council elections were undoubtedly a factor in the pressure being heaped on Maria Miller.
An already tricky election for the Conservatives risked becoming even more challenging with sleaze allegations swirling around.
UKIP - already favourites to win the Euro elections - will no doubt pick up even more votes from those disaffected with the mainstream parties. And it still looks like the leader Nigel Farage will be standing as a candidate in Kent.
Whether it is Folkestone and Hythe or Thanet South remains to be seen but Mr Farage came much closer than he has before now to confirming it will be one or the other, telling my colleague Matt Leclere that "it was more than likely" he will be a candidate somewhere in the Garden of England.
Tags: MPS, Maria Miller, UKIP, Cameron, elections, Folkestone, Thanet
Categories: Politics
There are good reasons why the planning system has legal safeguards to stop developers offering sweeteners to councils.
But there is nothing to stop politicians from doing so - which explains how the government has been able, as it announced yesterday, to dangle the promise of money before hard-pressed local authorities if they give the go-ahead to fracking wells.
Government push for more fracking denounced as bribery>>>
The political line is that communities that are affected by fracking deserve a share in the rewards.
In this case, it is a pledge that councils will be able to keep 100% of the business rates companies pay. There is also the promise that communities where wells are sunk may get an additional dividend from any profits.
Of course, the politicians would prefer us to describe this as an incentive rather than a bribe.
But whatever term you use, it still looks like a fairly naked attempt to buy off councils who are desperately short of money - not least because the government has cut their grants.
It is hard to tell how planning authorities will respond but they are in an invidious position. Give the go-ahead for drilling wells and they stand to be accused of putting money before the environment.
Refuse and others will complain that they are running scared and want to avoid becoming the next Balcombe, let alone forfeiting money that could be used to support crucial frontline services.
Fracking is controversial and the government's latest intervention is only likely to make it more so. In fact, it reinforces the perception that there are risks associated with the way shale gas is extracted.
After all, if the arguments in favour of fracking were so comprehensive and persuasive, would there be any need to make such offers?
Kent County Council has produced a new version of its report that rather controversially asserted that there was a link between the government's welfare reforms and rising crime, homelessness and food bank use.
It followed a decision from council leader Paul Carter to withdraw the report over concerns that the evidence on which conclusions were drawn was flawed and data was misnterpreted
Guess what?
The second report has concluded that the evidence on which the conclusions were drawn was indeed flawed and it was too early to say "with any certainty" what the impact of the changes might be.
Fancy that.
Tags: fracking, Cameron, business rates, Kent, bribe, KCC
It is always difficult to extrapolate from the result of a by-election what wider messages the voters have sent to politicians and how they might affect the parties' prospects in other areas.
So, is it possible to draw anything about Kent's political landscape from the outcome of the Eastleigh by-election?
Only in general terms, perhaps - particularly given that this was a seat where there was a two-way fight between the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives which really has no parallel in most of the county's parliamentary constituencies.
The Liberal Democrats did not so much gallop to victory as hang on by their fingernails, which against the backdrop of the Chris Huhne affair and the Lord Rennard allegations, was arguably no mean feat.
The Conservatives had a miserable result, losing ground yet again to UKIP in a result that suggested that David Cameron's pledge for an "in-out" referendum on the EU did not help shore up the party's core vote.
That will worry Kent Tories who are very jittery about UKIP and see Nigel Farage's party as more of a threat to their prospects at May's county council election than anyone else. It was interesting to hear Michael Gove cite immigration as one of the "doorstep" issues mentioned by voters during the Eastleigh campaign - that, coupled with voters' concerns over the EU - make UKIP more than just a natural repository for protest votes.
Cameron's dilemma is whether to stick to the centre ground or adopt more right-wing policies to neutralise the UKIP threat.
For evidence closer to home of the potential for UKIP to take votes away from the Conservatives, the result of a by-election in Ashford is telling: UKIP came third in a contest won by Labour (it was a safe seat) but came within two votes of beating the Conservatives to take second place.
On the other hand, Labour should be equally alarmed that Ed Miliband's efforts to depict his party as a "one nation" party appears to have had little resonance with voters.
The phenomenon of Labour's "southern discomfort" is something the party is desperate to resolve: if it cannot attract voters back in the constituencies in Kent that it won during the Blair era, it will not be in a position to form the next government.
Eastleigh was never a seat where Labour had any chance of winning but it will have to ask why, given all the coalition's woes, it did not fare better.
UKIP didn't win but will undoubtedly be happiest at its surge in the polls.
The question now is whether in places like Kent, it can sustain its momentum in a way which means it is regarded by voters as legitimate part of the political mainstream - and not just somewhere to register a protest against the others.
Tags: Eastleigh, general election, Kent, Miliband, Cameron, Farage, Clegg
Categories: National Politics
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A wire fox terrier who goes by the name of Sky was selected by Judge Betty Regina Leininger as best in show at the 138th annual Westminster Kennel Club dog show at Madison Square Garden in New York Tuesday night. Sky, who already has 128 best in show titles, beat out a bloodhound, a miniature pinscher, a standard poodle, a Portuguese water dog, a Cardigan Welsh corgi and an Irish water spaniel. It is the 14th time a wire fox terrier has won best in show at Westminster. Sky has a website as well as Facebook and Twitter accounts, and hails from Malibu, Calif. Also known as Grand Champion Afterall Painting the Sky, the winner is owned by Victor Malzoni Jr. and Torie Steele, and co-owners Mary and Scott Olund and Diane Ryan. She was bred by A. J. Pertuit Jr. and Betty Seaton and is handled by Gabriel and Ivonne Rangel. Now take a look at the other Westminster best in show winners over the past decade:
Dog: GCH (Grand Champion) Banana Joe V. Tani Kazari
Breed: Affenpinscher
Owners: Zoila Truesdale, Mieke Cooymans
Judge: Michael J. Dougherty
Dog: GCH Palacegarden Malachy
Breed: Pekingese
Owners: Iris Love, S. Middlebrooks, D. Fitzpatrick
Judge: Cindy Vogels
Dog: GCH Foxcliffe Hickory Wind
Breed: Scottish deerhound
Owners: Sally Sweatt, Cecilia L. Dove, R. Scott Dove
Judge: Paolo Dondina
Dog: Ch Roundtown Mercedes Of Maryscot
Breed: Scottish terrier
Owner: Amelia Musser
Judge: Elliott B. Weiss
Dog: Ch. Clussexx Three D Grinchy Glee
Breed: Spaniel (Sussex)
Owners: Cecilia Ruggles, Beth Dowd, Scott Sommer
Judge: Sari Brewster Tietjen
Dog: Ch. K-Run's Park Me In First
Breed: Beagle (15-Inch)
Owners: Caroline Dowell, Eddie Dziuk, Jon Woodring, Kathy Weichert
Judge: J. Donald Jones
Dog: Ch. Felicity's Diamond Jim
Breed: Spaniel (English Springer)
Owners: Teresa Patton, Allen Patton, R. Dehmel, D. Hadsall
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Spicy cauliflower
By Roopa Gulati
Cooking timePrep: 10 mins Cook: 20 mins
Skill levelEasy
ServingsServes 8
This superhealthy curry side dish is a Punjabi staple. Deliciously spicy, it's also a good source of vitamin C
Nutrition and extra info
Additional info
- Vegetarian
- Healthy
Nutrition per serving
- kcalories
- 145
- protein
- 6g
- carbs
- 7g
- fat
- 10g
- saturates
- 1g
- fibre
- 3g
- sugar
- 4g
- salt
- 0.05g
- 6 tbsp vegetable oil
- large piece ginger, finely chopped
- 2 tsp chilli flakes
- 2 tbsp cumin seeds
- 2 tsp turmeric
- 1¼kg (after trimming and removing leaves) cauliflower, broken into pieces
- small bunch coriander, chopped
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Recipe from Good Food magazine, October 2011
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Not sure you can call this super healthy with six tablespoons of oil! However I used one tblsp as currently on weight watchers. I only had half a cauli so also added 200g of new potatoes in their skins. To help cook I added about 200ml of warm water and put the lid on to steam the veg. I added chopped coriander at the end and served with the lamb and spinach curry - also from BBC Good food.


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The People's Democratic Movement is a political party in Papua New Guinea. It was founded by Paias Wingti in 1985, after his faction left the Pangu Party. Wingti served as prime minister from 1985 to 1988 and from 1992 to 1994. He was later replaced as leader by Mekere Morauta who also served as prime minister during his leadership of the PDM from 1999 to 2002.
The party won 13 of 109 seats at the 2002 general election. It became the second largest party in Parliament, but the largest party, the National Alliance Party led by Michael Somare formed the government. The PDM joined the opposition in the National Parliament of Papua New Guinea. Before the 2007 general elections, Morauta lost the leadership of the party and founded his own party, the Papua New Guinea Party, while Wingti became the leader of the PDM again. At the 2007 general elections, the PDM was heavily defeated, winning 5 seats in Parliament. Wingti was among those who lost their seats, and Morauta's new Papua New Guinea Party became the largest opposition party with 8 seats. The PDM left the opposition and joined Somare's coalition government. [1] In the 2012 general election, all 6 PDM members joined other parties before going into the election. It won two seats (Paias Wingti Western Highlands Regional seat to become Governor of the province and Tommy Tomscholl - Middle Ramu was the new Agriculture and Life Stock Minister.
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This information describes the best practices for upgrading earlier versions of Communications Suite products to version 7. (For a list of those individual product version numbers see Communications Suite 7 Products and Components.)
- About the Communications Suite Upgrade Process
- Defining Your Target Communications Suite Deployment
- Determining the Sequence of Product Upgrades
- Upgrading Messaging Server
- Upgrading Calendar Server in Solaris OS
- Upgrading Instant Messaging Server
- Upgrading Sun Convergence
- Upgrading Delegated Administrator
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- Upgrading Sync
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Communications Suite 7 consists of a number of individual products, product components and shared components, and no single system utility upgrades all Communications Suite components at once. Upgrading a Communications Suite deployment consists of upgrading component-by-component and computer-by-computer, using the component-specific upgrade procedures described in this information. Some of these procedures are as simple as adding upgrade patches to the existing software. Other procedures are more complex and require considerably more planning and preparation. Proper upgrading starts with knowing what products you want to upgrade and the order in which to upgrade them.
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A successful upgrade depends on knowing where you are (your current deployment) and where you are going (your target deployment). By defining your target deployment, you know what products and components you need to upgrade and which ones can remain as is.
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- Upgrade for a Product Feature. There is a specific feature you want from a specific product and you are only interested in upgrading the products and components necessary to support that feature.
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- Upgrade to use Sun Convergence. You only want to upgrade the products and components necessary to use Sun Convergence.
The minimum product versions that can still run Convergence are listed in Product Version Compatibility Requirements for Convergence 1 Update 3.
- You want to upgrade all products and components to the latest release.
You upgrade each product individually, host-by-host. See Requirements for Communications Suite 7.
Once you have chosen the scenario that best fits your situation, you know what products to upgrade.
Installing Only Shared Components: To install just the shared components for a component product, launch the Communications Suite installer then prefix your product selection with a tilde (~). For example, to install only the shared components for Messaging Server 64-bit, at the Product Selection prompt, you would type ~1. You can type multiple selections, separating your entries with a comma.
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- For upgrading a pre-6.3 Messaging Server you must upgrade the messages store components to 6.3 or later before upgrading the webmail server (previously called MEM) to 6.3 or later.
The rest of this guide describes how to upgrade each of the Communications Suite products.
Upgrading Messaging Server
See Messaging Server 7 Update 3 Upgrade.
Upgrading Messaging Server in an HA (High Availability) Environment
See Upgrading to Messaging Server 7 Update 3 in an HA Environment.
Upgrading Calendar Server in Solaris OS
See Calendar Server 6.3 Upgrade.
Upgrading Calendar Server in an HA (High Availability) Environment
See Upgrading Calendar Server 6.3 in an HA Environment.
Upgrading Instant Messaging Server
See Instant Messaging 8 Update 2 Upgrade.
Upgrading the Instant Messaging Server in an HA (High Availability) Environment
See Upgrading to Instant Messaging 8 Update 2 in an HA Environment.
Upgrading Sun Convergence
To upgrade from Sun Convergence 1 Update 2 to Sun Convergence 1 Update 3, see Upgrading to Convergence 1 Update 3.
Upgrading Delegated Administrator
See Delegated Administrator 7 Upgrade.
Upgrading comm_dssetup.pl
It is important to run the latest version of comm_dssetup.pl to prepare the schema, index, and data in your Directory Server to work with Messaging Server, Calendar Server, Instant Messaging, Delegated Administrator, or any products that depend on the Directory Server.
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Upgrading Sync
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Upgrading Outlook Connector
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It would be useful to have a matrix of certified (QA tested) & supported (not tested but theoretically possible) combinations & not-supported (known to not work) of products & configurations. This will help address the common support questions that occur after the introduction of new products e.g. can I use directory server 5 with messaging server 6.3? Do I need to upgrade to Schema 2? Can I use legacy/realm Access Manager configuration with Instant Messenger?
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Need information on how to migrate customisations with updated versions e.g. Delegated Administrator interface customisations will need to be reapplied manually, UWC customisations are kept as part of the patch-config/install-newconfig steps.
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Cresset Farm Development Initiative, Inc. a 501c3 located at 503 S. County Road 1, Johnstown, CO 80534 (www.cressetfarmdev.com) is searching for a biodynamic farmer to farm a 120 acre farm which it leases at the same address. Sixty acres are under cultivation with the remaining 60 acres consisting of hillside pasture, slough and farmstead. Four acres are devoted to vegetable production each year to provide vegetables for 150 to 200 CSA shares. The remaining cultivated ground is irrigated pasture and hay. The vegetable plot is move to new ground each year. The farm can be found on Google Earth, @ 40°23'15.61"N, 104°56'52.08"W. The SW corner of the farm touches the Big Thompson River (Google Earth, @ 40°23'15.61" N, 104°57'01.08"W). The farm consists of both upper and lower flat fields with gentle sloping hill side connecting the upper and lower fields. The farm has been farmed biodynamically for the past eleven years by Lawrence and Ursula Holmes (cressetcommunityfarm.com). This has resulted in improvements in soil fertility, crop rotation, landscaping, and extensive junk removable. Sales of raw milk shares, biodynamically grown beef, eggs, and fresh baked bread comprise products sold by the farm. However, the primary source of farm income comes from the sale of the CSA vegetable shares with sales of both summer and winter shares. The method of irrigation is primarily flood with some sprinkler system irrigation. The farmhouse, rented separately, is a two story four-bedroom house that has recently been insulated and has had recent window upgrades.
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32" Oven in Sherman Oaks
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First, I want to say that out of the all the forum groups I belong to, this one is by far the best. All of you have great information and it really seems like a little community.
I got it in my head about 4+ years ago that I wanted a pizza oven. I was initially looking at the barrel design and actually bought plans from someone online. I then found FB. After researching a bit I started leaning toward the Pompeii oven design it didnt hurt that Pompeii is one of my wifes and my favorite places.
So I started to lay it out in my yard and in SketchUp. We determined the right spot for the location and about 3 years ago had a pad poured to house a BBQ station and our pizza oven then we had our 1st Daughter so things got put on hold. About 16 Months later we had our second Daughter, so things got further put on hold: All the while though I was looking at the plans and reading through the forums.
I even decided to try to fashion a Pizza oven out of our charcoal grill. I bought 12in unglazed tiles from Home Depot and lined my grill with them. Seemed like a decent alternative boy was I wrong. In case anyone is thinking of trying it let me tell you what you will get. You start the charcoal and get the grill and tiles up to 600deg, this takes about 45 min. Then you are ready for your pizza you open the grill cover and in comes the cold air: so now you have a tile floor that is 600deg and a dome that is around 200deg. You will wind up with a black crust and uncooked toppings NOT good pizza.
So, after our last bbq pizza debacle, we decided it was time for a real pizza oven. I broke ground a few weeks ago. Because of the limits in our yard, it will be a 32in i.d. oven with a 16 in dome. I figured the door should be about 15 in wide and 10 in tall, so I can't make any jumbo pizzas, but that is no big deal. I won't be the "ultimate" dream oven, but it will be 100% better than the pizza oven we have now. I went with the higher dome because I do like to bake bread too.
Anyway, I welcome any comments and critique; I know anything said here will be said in the best interest of my oven and the FB community in general.
Sherman Oaks, Ca
P.s. The oven will be named "cave canem"... 10 points if you get the reference, no fair Googleing it. :)
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I made some progress last weekend. I laid out my floor and cut the bricks, and even got them set using the mortar/sand mixture (1:1).
Unfortunately, I came across a couple of flaws in my hearth design. Both are things I literally added or changed at the last minute. First, I decided to add a small counter area in front of the oven opening. When I was building the forms I thought "it doesn't need to be the full 7in thick, I will only make it the thickness of the top." Well, now I have a 12in counter that is supported by a flakey mixture of cement and vermiculite; granted I have re-bar, but I still don't like it. I will wind up building a metal support and I think that will solve the problem.
The other issue is that I mis-measured when I set the floor so it is too far to the right. I will have to figure out how to build my enclosure in a much smaller area than anticipated. Still a fixable problem.
My advice is if you are going to make changes to a plan, make sure you thing it through, don't just pull the trigger. :)
I am using Pacific Clay bricks that I ordered through Home Depot at $1.16.
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Well I made some great progress and am hoping to have a full day today. I made my own version of "the indispensible tool". Jim made some nice plans found at http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...heme-2985.html. His are a bit more elaborate and ultimately a better tool, but if you want something pretty simple mine works pretty well.
After getting into the project I am happy I decided to taper the bricks, it really reduces the mortar and seems like it will be more sound construction.
I am very impressed with so much of the workmanship I see posted in this forum, and even more impressed after starting this project.
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I am getting there... Right now the biggest challenge is that here in the San Fernando Valley is has been about 100deg. I have had a moving blanket covering the dome and I got a cheap mister from Orchard Supply Hardware to keep it moist.
I have about 4 more chains to go. :)
I used a different technique for the opening, you can see it at:
Sherman Oaks, CA
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Try staggering the brick joints from one row to the next. See how the last photo you have many mortar joints lining up. It will be stronger and less prone to cracks.
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Yes... strangely I actually tried to stagger them. For some reason the way I cut the bricks made them align almost perfectly at the back side. The next few courses were ok though.
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Excellent work so far, really making some fast progress,
And as far as weather goes, i will trade you any day. Has been too cold/wet here to do anything!
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Finally, I finished the dome. :) It wasn't easy, but I have to say it was totally rewarding and not quite as difficult as I thought it would be. I last few chains were challenging to get the correct angles for the bricks. I used the "indespensible tool" for the first 6 chains, but then they got too vertical. I wound up using a styrofoam form for the last ones. The problem with using the forms is you can't clean the inside of the dome as easily.
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Clean a little more of my dome. I used a stiff wire brush to get some of the mortar film off. I will probably leave well enough alone at this point. I don't want to get into the muratic acid stuff. I am pretty please with the outcome.
Can't wait til I can fire her up.
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Nice oven. :cool:
Your yard must be kind of tight for space I take it from the positioning of the oven?
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Walther 55 or HW 55 or?
August 6 2009 at 10:56 AM
After 30 years of playing with dozens and dozens of spring air rifles HW, FWB, BSA, and Webley and so on I sold them all with the thought of owning one evil rifle (PCP) which I now have for hunting and pest control and one Springer.
The Springer will be used for informal target shooting and plinking. I would like it to be moderate in size, easy to cock, .177, accurate, and quiet as possible.
Originally I kept an HW30S tuned by PW for this roll, but it was a bit too small and light. Most of my other Springers focused on the most power possible, which I dont need. In retrospect, if I would have had Paul put a softer spring in the HW50S he tuned for me it may have been ideal.
Anyway, I have never owned one of the older target rifles and believe they may be exactly what I am looking for.
As far as price, it does not really matter. Admittedly the main reason for selling off the 3 dozen rifles I had was financial, driven by the economy and family health issues, but given I am going to own just two total I feel I can justify just about any cost.
So if you folks can offer some opinions I would appreciate it. Thank you.
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Well Chris this will be an interesting thread
August 6 2009, 11:27 AM
No doubt messrs. Blackwell and Driskoll will chime in hopefully with even more pictures of their lovely guns with the myriad of variations that can be had. I do not own a Walther 55, yet that is!, but I do own an older HW50S built in 1978 and a Burgo marked HW55. Both of these guns have the extra heft that your HW30 lacked, (in fact the lack of heft is my only complaint with my R7) are finely balanced and a extremely easy to cock. I sometimes joke that these are what an R7 looks like when he grows up.
If you have the time peurse the links on that crazy cool slide out thingy that Dave installed for us, look under Compainion forums and click on the "Down Range" section. Tons of great information and pictures of the different variations of these two guns.
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looking forward
August 6 2009, 11:45 AM
to the educated opinions here. I always wanted the most power in a Springer so I have no experience with what I now suspect are sweet pleasant shooters that feel full sized but not too heavy.
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The "Big Three"
August 6 2009, 1:09 PM
Chris, reading between the lines of your post, seems like you prefer barrel-cockers, and the lightness/handling thing is a big deal, so I'll concentrate on those.
There are three classic families of guns from the heyday of break-barrel springer target guns: the Diana 60 series, Walther LG series, and Weihrauch HW 55.
The Dianas have the advantage of being truly recoilless, using the Giss double-piston system. They are internally complex but the quality and performance of these guns is fantastic. IMHO they are rather underrated by collectors, the quality of the checkering and wood finish in particular can put the Walthers and HW's to shame. My personal favorite is the model 60, which is a bit smaller and lighter than the later models 65 and 66. It has an easily removable barrel sleeve, thus works either as a target rifle or lighter plinker.
Here are two examples of the model 60, first with the standard stock, the other a model 60 Tyrolean:
I won't say too much about the Walthers as so many outrageously GORGEOUS ones have already appeared in this string (Gaines...Tom...Garvin...have mercy)! The quality and performance of these guns is awesome, their biggest claim to fame being the incredible level of metal polishing and rich blueing. Great trigger, great sights, they have it all. My personal favorite of the family is the LGV Olympia, and I wholeheartedly back Tom Strayhorn's comment about the stock--to me the all-round best-handling stock I've ever picked up. Again, like the Diana the LGV usually has a barrel sleeve, it is very heavy but removes easily, and the lighter sleeve from the earlier Walther 55 fits also. It truly works well as either a ten-meter gun or for more casual shooting:
But I freely admit to huge personal prejudice in favor of the HW 55. I don't know what it is, just something about it that has some real personality and clicks for me. I love the handling, I love the feel of the nifty barrel latch, I love the Rekord trigger, I love the feel of shooting it. They are easy to work on and plenty of parts are around. Gaines is right about them being longer than the Walthers, though. To me it's just the king of all-rounders. If I could own only one springer rifle this would be the one, but picking which stock would be pretty tough! Here are several variations:
HW 55 MM, Bavarian-style stock. Great all-round design, really pretty to my eye. Late ones like this example have a fore end accessory rail:
HWB Champ, the junior HW 55 version. This has a REALLY small stock--uncomfortable for most adult hands. Also has shorter barrel with sleeve and a positionable trigger blade, which are kinda neat though:
HW 55 Tyrolean, to my eye the most elegantly-proportioned Tyro on any of the old target guns. Also a rather shorter "pull" (distance from trigger to butt) than the other full-size HW 55 versions.
HW 55 CM "Custom Match," FWB-like target stock, but much lighter and nimbler than you might think from its appearance. This is the rifle I shoot the most, period:
HW 55 S, plain beech "Sport" stock. Slim, trim, more rounded edges and tougher wood, it's a great choice for all-round shooting, especially outdoors:
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sounds good
August 6 2009, 2:04 PM
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Okay how did I miss this post
August 6 2009, 10:54 PM
Chris I did not mention the Diana 60 in my original post because you did not mention it. My diana 60 was so impressive to a fellow airgunner here locally, who BTW was a dedicated High Horsepower Springer Fan, that after he spent a couple of hours with the D60 in his prescence went on a hunt on GB to find one. After a couple of months he found one. And it is every bit as impressive as mine. The only drawback I can see for you is the weight. Unfortunately due to the recoilless action in these guns they are a bit heaver than either my HW 50S or HW55. That said, it is a pure joy to shoot. In fact I even took it out on a squirrel hunt recently. Four shots, four direct hits. Yes I was a little more tired than normal but I impressed the bejeusus out of the guy I was out with.
Firepower wise it does not posess the velocity of either the 50S OR the 55. However its accuracy is uncanny!
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HW55's and LG 55's
August 6 2009, 1:22 PM
Chris......I got interested in both about 6 years ago and have owned about 20+ of each but a few less now. I find them both wonderful and moderately different. The HW 55 seems to be more in demand here and the Walther more plentiful in Germany. HW's bring somewhat higher prices , all things being equal. The LG is similar to the HW but the receiver tube is shorter on the LG making the gun noticeably more compact. I would characterize the LG was being more purely a match gun and the HW a match/sporter. Most LG's came with a factory sleeve, most HW's did not.The HW 55 and original HW 50 were basically the same gun and a HW 50 spring adds 40-50 fps to the 55 but I prefer the 55 spring. When in original condition I would rate the LG as a simpler design, a little more finicky and slightly better fit and finished....the HW being more robust. I think they were equally accurate, both use modular triggers of similar fine quality. Parts are getting scarce but can be found, the HW having a slight advantage in the US. I am short...5-6 and feel the LG was made to fit me, my friend Mike Driskill is about 6-0 and feels the same about the HW. The vast majority of HW 55's have a breech lock, the "F" models do not. If you want a Walther with a lock look at the next model, the LGV....Same internals.
They are both pieces of airgun history and eventually you should try for both! Please excuse the quality of this picture but the guns on the left and in the center are LG's and the others HW's. these happen to be Tyroleans but I prefer the match versions for shooting:
An HW 55 Match, this one marked "Burgo" a marketing firm like Beeman .
And a super nice LG 55 with double triggers and an optical sight....not a scope:
I will be glad to send more pictures and information but far gearter knowledge than mine is on this forum...
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Nod to the Walther so far
August 6 2009, 2:01 PM
I am just over 5'7" so the fact that the Walthers fit you well should mean the same for me. For example from a sitting position the FWB 124 was always a bit too much of a reach, so I assume you mean overall length? Do you know what an average length is? Beautiful rifles by the way. My guess is for a shooter the standard would be a better choice?
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Don't forget the .....................
August 6 2009, 3:15 PM
Walther LG53 with the sporter stock !!!
These lovely gun are lightweight and as accurate as its succesors the LG55 and LGV.
Or the Weihrauch HW55Champ with its junior sized stock !!
(shown WITH A BUTT PLATE SPACER above a Standard HW55)
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looks nice, but
August 6 2009, 3:31 PM
I also have to find an actual rifle foe sale. Don't ever recall seeing a 53, but then I never looked. I do see the 55's once in awhile.
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Another Walther 53 model
August 6 2009, 4:19 PM
There was also a model 53 Match made only for a few years that had a Brayen style cheek piece. Only difference between the 53 and 55 is the trigger unit and stock style.
Top rifle is another LGV Spezial with UIT stock, Bottom rifle is a LG53M and it is available for adoption.
"Love them Walthers"
Hell I love them ALL
Tom Strayhorn
Catawissa Missouri
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August 6 2009, 6:06 PM
Tom -
Are you selling this Rifle ??
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Have you considered a Walther LGV Spezial Junior
August 6 2009, 2:36 PM
Walthers last attempt at taming recoil came with the incarnation of the Spezial with dual counter-wound springs a completely redesigned match trigger, improved rear diopter sight along with milled dovetail for mounting the sight. With the earlier LGV Olympia a new piston head design was introduced for improved performance and this carried over to the Spezial.
The LGV Spezial came in a variety of stock styles including the LGV S Junior with a shorter length of pull and lighter barrel weight. Here are some pics of a Spezial Junior I am working on at the moment.
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Tom, The Spezial Jr is my favorite Walther of all time....
August 6 2009, 3:38 PM
Very nice example, Garvin has one I would attempt to swim the Atlantic to get. Perfect fit, perfect shooter !!!!GB
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I like a sporter look better
August 6 2009, 3:41 PM
also I don't want to go to heavy. For example my HW97K was nice but felt like a tree trunk. Instead I picture a middle weight rifle that throws a STD weight pellet 550 to 600 fps. Butter smooth to cock like an old Diana smoothbore from the 1930's I owned for about a week, it will be effortless to spend time punch paper or plinking. Lastly, it will be deadly accurate and a true test of skills.
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Sporter stocked LGV
August 6 2009, 4:32 PM
Known as the LGV Olympia model, rifle on top in comparison to the LG55 on the bottom.
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A question Mr. Strayhorn
August 6 2009, 8:18 PM
Your picture brings to mind a question I have about the LGV. How do you discern the difference between a Olympia and Spezial models? For the life of me I cannot figure this out.
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Dennis, Not Tom but some pictuires of a Spezial and an Olympia....
August 6 2009, 8:33 PM
Spezial on top:
There is a rare Spezial Tyrolean, distinguished only by it's trigger...externally:
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So am I correct in assuming
August 6 2009, 9:55 PM
That a Spezial and Olympia share the large bumpout on the rear of the stock, but differ in the forestoeck; a Spezial having a much larger and square shaped forestock while the Olympia has a much smaller rounded one?
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August 6 2009, 11:09 PM
The stocks are quite different as the Oly is more like the earlier LG55 in shape but with more of an upright grip and it is stippled where the 55 has hand cut chekering. Other differences between the Oly and Spezial are trigger units, rear sight, the Oly has a single spring where the Spezial has dual counterwound springs with a spacer/guide in between them and a milled recriver.
Some improvments in the Spezial have been seen in later Olympias.
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