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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
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A bit intimidated, a bit frustrated and 100% unsure OR which bike thread #1883237
I'm sure I'm not alone in the relatively new adventure rider category when I say that I am a little bit frustrated going along in my decision process with bike choices so far. Its a giant ping pong of thoughts that never seem to make sense or garner any clear winner. I love riding but the lack of innovation in the middleweight segment is absolutely puzzling.
My real true goal is to get 2 of the same bike for me and my girlfriend and do half road half off-road touring from light dirt/fire roads to progressively gnarlier stuff as we gain experience and take classes, etc. I have a 950 Adventure now and while I am having a blast on it most of the time, it feels like I've bitten off way more than I can chew bike-wise. Its really fun but entirely too big for me at the moment IMO. Although I keep looking at its spec sheet going "that power to weight ratio is superb!"
Luckily, we are mostly the same size as much as girl/guy can be at least. I'm 5'10" with a 29" inseam 220lbs and shes 5'8" with a 30" inseam 160lbs.
I'm currently on the path of thought to go with 2x DR650's but a few things intimidate me like the "need" for suspension reworking for example. I have very limited mechanical skill currently with bikes, but I get the feeling from what I've read that this is a great bike to start learning about these things and I am willing to learn
One thing I'd love to have on a bike is fuel injection. Mainly because jetting is a bit frustrating of a topic to research and I love the adaptability to elevation, etc. that EFI offers. Also, I'm a techy at heart and EFI is just cool to me. This is where I start to butt heads with the DR650 and heavily consider a Husky Terra 650 (if I can find 2 ), F650GS Dakar or G650GS Sertao. Am I forgetting any other candidates?
My real goal is to keep the dry weight closer to 300 than 400 if possible (hence leaving out the V-Strom) without completely breaking the bank with something like a KTM 690 Enduro R (I hear these can get mega pricey setting up for touring). In reality I could probably afford a couple used 2012-ish 690's if it was the right bike, but I'm not sure its what I should be looking at being dirt novices and all.
Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Maybe I'm being dramatic about the carb vs FI thing and the suspension reworking the DR "needs." I mean I can follow step by step guides after all and am completely willing to learn. I just have no previous experience whatsoever. I'd love to be able to test ride these bikes but its really difficult here in Tucson in my experience
Nanu-Nanu Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2004
Location: Westminster Colorado
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I wish you the best of luck. I have been riding for over 55 years and am still looking for the right bike.
Don't put too much thought into it. most of the carbed bikes have CV carbs that do a very good job of altitude compensation once you get the baseline jetting set. Normally if you get something in the area that you live that has already been done for you.
Suspension can always be improved but unless you are motocrossing or desert running the stock setups are not really that bad and can be ridden with confidence. After all my years I sure can tell a good suspension from a bad one but nothing I have ever had was unridable because of it.
Get a couple of bikes and enjoy them for a while. There is always something else out there to experiment with in the future.
And I just got the last Terra in Colorado so you can't have it.
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Joined: Aug 2004
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whoa, a brand new thread!
I have been in the DR650 camp for ten years. I'm smaller and i assume older than you, and I am not giving up yet. My spouse is bigger and longer legged, about the size of your date, and she rides a super sherpa so she can flat-foot.
What I can offer: the DR is stupid simple and durable, the last of the air-cooled singles. I lost the stator a hundred miles outside of Salmon Idaho in 2010, and she towed me all the way to town. We are now pretty good at towing.
And two motorcycles for two riders is a pretty good relationship. I towed her down the Waterpocket Fold fifty miles, after she drowned out in Sandy Creek (high water moment!); we hit the ground a couple times in that episode but whatever.
We could afford to abandon either of our bikes, which is a major point in their favor. But we haven't had to...
Studly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2010
Location: Hollidaysburg PA
Oddometer: 518
If you want to do knarly stuff get the lightest bike you can.
The WRR and CRF are efi. The klx is a good bike also. Any bike can be lowered.
I just went thru this, started with a dr, too heavy for hard stuff. Got a klx way better offroad but lacking on the road. Tried the WRR, better but still lacking. Now ride a TE630, more power for the road but the extra 30lbs over the 250s make it handful.
As far as road riding, usully dont ride much faster than 55-60 here and the 250s do that fine and smoother. Sometimes wish i still had the klX or wrr!
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I would say the DR would be good for you and the girl. Carb vs EFI isn't really that big a deal for beginners, same thing with suspension. I would reccomend the XR650L as another dike to look at. It's better in the dirt than the DR but it is taller, a lowering link will help but the DR can go lower. The only other bike besides those two I would look at would be the WR250.
How to ride your XR650L to South America: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...2#post19932112
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Oddometer: 131
hmm, after reading your comments and doing some research I am definitely looking a lot harder at the WR250R now. I dunno how it slipped past my radar but I can see that thing as a very nice ADV touring style bike with a bigger tank, detachable windscreen and some luggage. why isn't it more popular
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Joined: Jan 2008
Location: That buzzing in your earhole, NorCal.
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Reading your first post that's the first and only bike that popped into my mind.
A WR250R would be perfect for you too.
And yeah, don't overthink it.
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
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I'll try not to over-think it but man is it hard!
I'm going to try and find somewhere in town that will actually let me test ride a WR and DR and try and figure out what is better that way.
The most concerning thing about the WR would be if it could run on lower octane or not, lots of conflicting reports on that front. I'm just thinking if I can ever make my RTW dreams come true, its something to consider.
The other nagging question I have is whether to buy new or used. I mean obviously if its under 2 or 3,000 miles and a good deal, its a no brainer to snatch that up. But with all these DR650's I'm being offered at closer to 17-20k miles, I'm starting to wonder if I should just eat the new cost so I can start with a clean slate rather than relying on someone else's knowledge of their bike. Either that or wait for a basically new one to pop up in the wild somewhere. Especially since it seems like if I do decide on the WRR that I'm unlikely to find a nice used one at any mileage lol.
Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Indianapolis Indiana
Oddometer: 357
Dude, you are making every noob mistake.
Dont buy new.
Dont over think it.
Just get a nice used bike and get on the train of swapping bikes around till you have tried them all.
Beastly Adventurer
Joined: May 2009
Location: Westminster CO
Oddometer: 1,500
Sounds like a WR250r or CRF250l would fit the bill for you. to me the little bikes are often more fun than the big ones.
EFI is very nice if you plan on jumping around alot.
Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
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yeah, I'm definitely thinking so, especially after reading bigdogadventures ride reports and asking his opinion. He actually prefers his over the KTM 690 he has when I asked him about it all. Which I really wasn't expecting but it makes sense, weight can't be fixed with horsepower
Now, about finding a couple lightly used WR250R's.... an impossible feat I'm sure
Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: Utah, Japan
Oddometer: 208
I have been riding 30 years and went up and down the displacement ladder. XR600R, XR650L, KTM 525's, Husaberg 570, KTM 625 and 640 and 690 over the years, all great!
My son turned 16 and got his bike license so no need to trailer bikes anymore, so I needed a couple street legal bikes. Sold the Husaberg and bought 2 WR250X for the same money. Threw some knobbies on and until I can afford a couple 350EXC's or 500EXC's (which will give time for the boy to get more experience) these are working nicely. Power is down but price is right.
Lope along at 65 no problem, light enough that tighter stuff is still fine, 60+mpg, cheap to fix and maintain, and if you keep them in good shape can sell them for pretty close to what I bought them for.
A great starter bike for your needs. I wouldn't discount the 17"wheels either. With knobbies (Shinko 244) they handle everything I ride on the dirt fine and are much more stable on gravel and lots more fun on the street carving the corners.
I would also consider the CRF250L and its not EFI but the 6-speed KLX250 and 17" version SF would be good candidates too.
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There is no "right" bike.
I spent many hours reading, researching, test riding all kinds of ds, enduro, off-road, older mx bikes that were converted to street legal before '04 (California problem).
Finally just bought one, or two. Definitely don't buy new. It's best to really nail down what you want to do on the bike and how it will be used.
If you try to get a bike to ride to Alaska, Do long weekend road trips and also hit the local MX track a few times a month. You're going to be really unhappy.
The WR250r/x is a good bike, for most of what you want to do. FI is nice, electric start, decent suspension, good mileage, not bad on the road. But I think you are in AZ, and out here in the west, "loping along at 65 all day" will get you blow off the highway by everything from 40 year old winnebagos to overloaded suv's more intent on checking their facebook pages than paying attention on the open highway.
I found the WR to not be a real open road kind of bike. But that's just my opinon. I have an XR650R which will lope along at 70 all day, of course the noise, wind, and wandering will keep your attention. I think you will find the WR is similar but when you are at 70-80% of your top end it's not much fun when a fast moving F350 comes up behind you.
Also the WR is over 300lbs stock. I'm not sure if you've tried lifting a 300+ lbs motorcycle on a hill after dumping it. It's not that much fun.
I have a VFR750 for the street, A 1200GS which is a wonderful on the road bike but NO dirt bike. The XR for my "dirt" riding, no I'm not trying to MX on it, I'm old. But it is great in the open desert and mountain fireroads and light trails. And an old RM250, which weighs 205lbs. I realized I wasn't going to find the "perfect" motorcycle.
I like the 690r enduro but it's not the perfect bike and I'm not independantly wealthy enough to have a 300lbs dirt bike that can't MX and isn't fantastic on the highway.
This is why I say you really need to nail down what and how you want to ride. Knobbies work on the road, but it's a compromise. And the ds tires are a big compromise in the dirt.
The DR is old school enduro like the XRL which I think is better. As it's better in the dirt and slightly lighter. They are in the same price range but I think the XRL is a just little better everywhere.
But it is tall.
Yes it can be lowered but then you start down the slippery slope of compromise.
I'd really try to get a test ride on the WRR, XRL and DR. All will work, none are great all arounders. There is no such thing. The KLR is there but heavier and not as good offroad.
Everyone has an opinion about these things and these bikes. These are mine.
Good luck, get a test ride and then go with what YOU like best.
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I get a kick out of all the people who talk about how heavy the Japanese 250s are and then recommend a 335 pound 690. Yes, super power to weight ratio, but if 300 pounds is too much, how is 335 not?
Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Oddometer: 131
I actually rode a used 2013 KTM 690 Enduro R at the dealer today and while I really liked the way the bike fit me and the riding position, I thought the engine was severely lacking. It also vibrated really really bad like a weed eater. I'm not sure what the big deal is with it to be honest. Maybe if you never wanted to get on the road?
I guess on the plus side that makes me think the WR250R is an even better choice than before since the riding position felt similar on the WR250F I sat on to the 690 E R. Luckily I found someone locally that will let me ride his lowered DR650, setup like I want to tomorrow. That should be a great insight into that one but I agree its a bit heavier than I want.
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In the Leech Library: Behind the scenes at the American Museum of Natural History
This is the second story in a four-part, weekly series on taxonomy and speciation. It's meant to help you as you participate in Armchair Taxonomist — a challenge from the Encyclopedia of Life to bring scientific descriptions of animals, plants, and other living things out from behind paywalls and onto the Internet. Participants can earn cool prizes, so be sure to check it out!
On the sixth floor of New York's American Museum of Natural History — far away from the throngs of tourists and packs of schoolkids — there is a cold, white room, filled with white, metal cabinets.
The cabinets are full of dead things; leeches, sea anemones, lobsters ... any kind of invertebrate you can imagine. Even a giant squid. All of them have been carefully preserved. Each soaks in its own, luxuriant ethanol bath. Here they sit, some for a hundred years or more, waiting for scientists to pull them out into the light.
It's a bit like the final scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, but for slimy, crawly, spineless things. There are collections like this all over the world, containing every species of animal, plant, and microscopic organism. Together, they serve as a record of Earth's biodiversity, a library of life. In them, you'll find more than just random specimens. Some of the individuals are special. Called "type specimens", they serve as ambassadors for their species, real-world models that define what each species is. For instance, the leech species Myxobdella maculata is both a group of leeches and exactly one leech — A leech that I got to meet on a behind-the-scenes tour with invertebrate curators Estefania Rodriguez and Mark Siddall.
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Chicago's Field Museum isn't just a science museum. It's also a research center, especially for archaeologists and anthropologists who come to the museum to make use of its extensive collections of artifacts — only a tiny fraction of which is on public display at any given time. Unfortunately, the museum is currently up to its neck in debt, and part of the current administrators' plan to deal with that problem is to restructure the research department and cut back on curators and staffing there.It's hard to understand why this has the archaeology community so on edge unless you really understand what the Field Museum has in those vast Indiana-Jones-inspiring storage collections. Here's Michael Smith, an archaeologist who studies the ancient Aztecs, explaining why the Field Museum is so important to his work and that of his colleagues.
The photo above shows an Aztec flute in the museum. I have excavated many small fragments of these objects in Aztec domestic middens, but never an entire example. When one just has the animal's ear, or a segment with a hole, or a fragment of the mouthpiece, it is hard to figure out just what these are pieces of. It is through study of the whole flutes in the Field Museum or other museums that I learned to interpret the tiny fragments of musical instruments, and of many other unusual items, from my excavations. Or consider our knowledge of Aztec music. Scholars such as Adje Both have reconstructed aspects of Aztec music by studying flutes like this and by playing them (and recording the tones and doing analyses of the sound diagrams). Museums are the only places with the resources for such research, and the Field Museum is one of the most important in the U.S. and the world.
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Last week, I got to visit the Museum of Osteology in Oklahoma City. It's an amazing collection — well worth driving out of your way to see. I was expecting just a selection of different animal skeletons. The actual collection was a lot bigger and more awesome than I'd guessed it would be, and included some really nice exhibits on evolutionary adaptation, convergent evolution, deformed skeletons of both humans and animals, and the process of stripping a body down to a clean and shiny bone structure.
One of the things I found really fascinating was the skeletal features that you can't see just by looking at the outside of an animal. Take this Indian Rhinoceros, for instance. You'll notice that his horn is not a part of the skull. That's because the horn isn't really bone. The "horn" isn't a horn, at all.
Horns are made of bone. They're hard on the outside thanks to a thin layer of keratin — the stuff that makes up your fingernails and hair. But the majority of that material is living bone. Rhinos, on the other hand, have "horns" that are almost 100% keratin. They're really thick bundles of protein fibers.
That's a pretty well-known fact. But it's one thing to know it intellectually, and another thing entirely to see the place where that keratin horn attaches to the animal's actual bone structure. The intricate, lacy network of spongy bone was absolutely fascinating to me. It reminded me of the way ceramic artists will attach one piece of clay to another by scoring little cuts into both pieces and then applying a layer of thin, goopy clay that cements the cuts together as it dries. Seeing the rhino skull really drove home the idea that the "horn" was something else entirely. The horn was attached to the bone. It wasn't part of the bone.
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So how do museums get the perfect skeletal specimens that you see behind glass?
The answer: Lots and lots and lots of tedious work. Plus the assistance of a few thousand flesh-eating bugs.
This video from the University of Michigan traces the creation of a bat skeleton, from a fleshy dead bat in a jar, to a neat, little set of bones in a display case. It's painstaking (and moderately disgusting) work. Sort of like building model cars, if the Ford Mustang had realistic organ tissue.
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Today, when almost every major city in America has a science museum with hands-on, interactive exhibits, that particular format of education seems pretty obvious. But it wasn't always.
In 1969, Frank Oppenheimer opened the Exploratorium, the first American museum to use these now-familiar educational tools. The experiment was sort of a combination of the skills Oppenheimer had learned as a high school science teacher (he spent several years teaching school after being blackballed from research science due to Red Scare paranoia) and what he saw happening in European science museums of the time.
Oppenheimer would have turned 100 years old today. Celebrate with this video, where he explains the ideas that led to the creation of the Exploratorium. It's a fascinating look at the once-revolutionary origins of a paradigm that was so successful, we now take it completely for granted.
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On Saturday, I spoke at an Earth Day Tweetup at the Science Museum of Minnesota. As part of the event, the museum took tweeters on a behind-the-scenes tour, including the exhibit workshop. (The Science Museum of Minnesota is one of the few science museums in the United States that designs and builds all its own exhibits from scratch.) Also on the tour: Science House, a nifty resource center for Minnesota teachers. That's where this photo comes from.
Science House is a separate, detached building, set in the Museum's "backyard", that's open to teachers during after-school hours and during the Summer. It's home to a vast array of science paraphernalia. Besides this collection of skulls and plastic biology models, there's also racks of microscopes and chemistry glassware, a bookshelf full of solar system models, a regiment of Van de Graaf generators, and a full human skeleton dangling from a hook in the ceiling. There's also dozens and dozens of intriguing red plastic tubs lined up on shelves. The tubs are full of equipment, tools, and books that aren't available in every school. Teachers can check out any of these things from the museum, like you'd check out a book from a library.
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The Smithsonian, the world's largest museum, is planning on producing 3D scans of its collection and making them freely available to the public to print out at home on their 3D printers (or incorporate into their virtual worlds). CNet's Daniel Terdiman has the story:
Update: Sarah Taylor Sulick from the Smithsonian sez, "Unfortunately we have no plans to make 3D scans of our collection freely available for the public to print. The CNET story is a bit misleading on that point. Our 3-D team mentioned that we COULD go there theoretically, but as of right now it is not part of our plan. The reality is also that we have 137M objects in our collection and only 2 people working on this project. So we are no where near being able to scan everything and essentially never will be."
Now, with that high-end scanner, as well as less expensive tools that include normal digital cameras and freely available cloud-based digitization software, Metallo and his fellow 3D digitization coordinator Vince Rossi are slowly setting out to begin building a new Smithsonian digital archive. They hope this initiative will eventually lead to scores of 3D printed exhibits, as well as countless 3D models that could theoretically be used in the museums, in schools, or just about anywhere people have an interest in the Smithsonian's vast physical holdings...
Metallo and Rossi's goal is clear: they want to build a large collection of 3D scanned objects and archaeological sites that can support the entire Smithsonian complex. They've got technology on their side--with minimally invasive laser scanners they can capture the geometry of just about any object or site with accuracy down to the micron level.
But their resources are few, and the two told CNET that they have to be smart about the projects they choose to digitize. They have to know that their work is going to tell a story in a new way or give researchers new tools in order to justify spending the time it takes to do the work.
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In 1950, as part of promoting a new exhibit on space exploration, the Hayden Planetarium in New York City put out the word that it was accepting applications from would-be space tourists. Over the next few years, hundreds of letters poured in. This is one of them, written by a man who would like to get to Mars early in order to corner the hot dog market there.
You can view several other letters at the American Museum of Natural History's website. They're equally delightful and packed with awesome Happy Mutant goodness—from a man who helpfully offered the planetarium his own, home-brew rocket schematics; to a man with the nickname "Stardust" who told the planetarium they could cancel his reservation if he was able to hitch a ride on a flying saucer sooner; to Barbara, a 16-year-old who informed the Planetarium that she "won't be content" until she was on a rocket headed to far-off space. Beautiful!

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|Spring onions
|2 , sliced
|Chopped ginger
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|1 Teaspoon
|Chicken or fish stock
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1. First prepare the fish balls: put all the ingredients in a food processor or blender and work together until smooth. With wet hands shape into 16-18 balls and steam in 2 batches on a lightly greased steamer base for about 5 minutes, until firm. Transfer to a warmed serving dish and keep warm.
2. Meanwhile, heat the oil in a wok, add the mangetouts, spring onions and ginger and stir-fry for 2 minutes.
3. Blend the cornflour, stock and soy sauce together, add to the wok and cook, stirring, until thickened. Season with salt and pepper. Serve the mangetouts and sauce as soon as possible with the fish balls.
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Nov 9, 1998, Vol. 4, No. 09 • By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER
The "interim phase" as negotiated by Rabin and Peres was one in which Israel would make three "redeployments" -- unilateral grants of West Bank territory -- after which final-status negotiations would begin. Netanyahu understood that if that were to happen, Israel would have no bargaining chips left when the most crucial issues were to be decided. There would be nothing left to do but give up East Jerusalem, acquiesce to a Palestinian state, allow the influx of huge numbers of Palestinian refugees, and so on. Arafat understood this too. Which is why he kicked and screamed in March 1997 when Netanyahu offered only a token first redeployment. Arafat rejected it out of hand. He demanded 30 percent of the West Bank.
Where did he get that figure? It is written nowhere in Oslo. But clearly he understood from Peres that he would get about a third of the land in each of the three redeployments, giving him just about all the occupied territories by the start of final-status negotiations.
Netanyahu's entire strategy for the last two years, undertaken at huge diplomatic and personal political cost, has been to reduce Arafat's expectations. He had to make Arafat realize that whatever the provocations, whatever the diplomatic damage, however sour Israeli relations with the Arabs, however damaged Israeli relations with the United States, however many rock-throwing and tear-gas incidents this would provoke on the West Bank, Arafat was simply not going to get 90 percent of the land in the interim phase.
On this he won. Wye ratifies the victory. Arafat had 27 percent of the territories when Netanyahu came to power. Wye gives him 13 percent more. Oslo's interim phase will end with Israel having given up 40 percent of the land.
From the Israeli point of view, this is an extraordinary achievement. It leaves Israel with a serious chunk of territory on the West Bank to bargain with.
How did Bibi do it? The three redeployments have essentially been folded into one, the famous 13 percent as demanded by the United States. Formally, the 13 percent counts as fulfilling redeployments numbers one and two. What about number three? Arafat had been pushing very hard for there to be yet another redeployment after Wye. He got that. But Netanyahu got crucial American agreement that its size would be entirely up to Israel, and Netanyahu has indicated that it will be no more than 1 percent, i.e., essentially meaningless.
The other major Israeli gain at Wye was on security. It is a measure of how inept Labor's negotiating of Oslo had been that at Wye the security issues Netanyahu was trying to nail down were precisely the same ones that Rabin claimed he had gotten from Arafat five years ago.
Rabin thought he had secured a change in the PLO charter; five years later the charter had not been changed. He thought he had secured a promise to crack down on terrorism; five years later nothing had been done. He thought he had secured an "end to war" pledge from the Palestinians -- matching the "end to war" atmosphere that Sadat had taken back to Egypt from his 1977 visit to Jerusalem; instead, the new official Palestinian media have been sources of egregious anti-Semitic incitement, and the new Palestinian schools raise children on the glories of martyrdom and jihad.
Palestinian reciprocity was essential. But how to get it? Netanyahu's consistent strategy has been that, because Arafat's word is not worth the paper it is written on, the United States would have to be brought deep into the process to make Arafat deliver.
It was a historic gamble. Traditionally, Israelis do not like to bring in third parties. Trilateral negotiations subject them to more pressure, while increasing their dependency and reducing their freedom of action. Nonetheless, Netanyahu understood that no Palestinian promise would be carried out unless the United States demanded it.
He thought he had enlisted the United States with the Hebron agreement of January 1997. At Hebron, he gave up most of Judaism's second-holiest city in return for (a) a host of Arafat promises -- these were entirely discounted -- and (b) more important, an American "Note for the Record" prepared by Dennis Ross codifying Palestinian obligations.
To Netanyahu's enormous disappointment, Ross's paper turned out to be as worthless as Arafat's. For example, the written U.S. assurance that Israel alone would decide the size of its next redeployment was ignored; the United States instead dictated 13 percent. The change in the Palestinian charter, the cracking down on terrorists, the anti-incitement provisions, all went unfulfilled and unenforced.


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Ashton Kutcher's recent forays into social justice activism have not been successful, perhaps because they are not especially well-conceived. His "Real Men Don't Buy Girls" campaign, inspired by an episode of "Dateline," has been roundly panned in the months since it was launched, most recently by The Village Voice. In a piece published last week, the newspaper lambasted the videos, saying that they "reeked of frat-boy humor." They also questioned Kutcher's statistics. Kutcher, proving that he is a mature public figure who understands free speech and the nature of public discourse, responded by targeting the Village Voice's advertisers, in an attempt to destroy the newspaper.
According to the Village Voice's Martin Cizmar, Ellis Conklin and Kristen Hinman, the often-cited figure on child prostitution and the inspiration for Kutcher's campaign is, quite simply, incorrect. Although, like Kutcher, many mainstream media outlets also refuse to question or explain the claim that "100,000 to 300,000 children in America [are] turning to prostitution every year," this number needs to be put in context.
"What no newspaper has bothered to explain—and what Moore and Kutcher certainly don't mention," Cizmar, Conklin and Hinman explain, "is that the figure actually represents the number of children [the original researchers] considered 'at risk' for sexual exploitation, not the number of children actually involved." Even these researchers admit that it is nearly impossible to determine exactly how many child prostitutes there are in the United States.
Kutcher quickly went on the attack, pointing out that a Craigslist-esque website called Backpage.com, which happens to be owned by Village Voice Media, is currently being sued by a former child prostitute who says that she was trafficked through the website. And because Kutcher owns one of the most-followed Twitter handles in the world, with over seven million followers, when Kutcher then began to go after the Village Voice's advertisers, people listened.
He told American Airlines: "Hey +AmericanAir. Are you aware that you are advertising on a site that supports the Sale of Human Beings (slavery)?" And the company responded: "We will address this IMMEDIATELY. Can you please DM us detail of the site, including a link?"
Kutcher later reported, also via Twitter, that American Airlines had assured him that the ads would soon be down. This may not, however, be true; according to the Daily Mail, an American Airlines spokesperson said that the advertising rumors "appear to be rumour and speculation. I am not aware of any such action." Kutcher also tweeted at Columbia University, Disney, and Domino's Pizza.
I wrote about the campaign when it first came out in April, and concluded that the videos, which depict various celebrities failing at "manly" activities, were both inelegant and incomprehensible. But these new claims about Kutcher's statistics are alarming, to say the least. And although Village Voice Media does need to investigate the child prostitution claims, the journalists who write for The Village Voice have every right to scrutinze Kutcher's campaign without fear that he will use his social media presence to attack their advertisers.
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Another way would probably be best.
I read here so many requests to boycott whatever cause, which I think is the most peaceful thing companies and people understand.
He's doing what most are doing here. Many would dream of an advocate with his potential.
I saw him driving a giant truck once which he bought because he used to be so poor (or so the tag read), it didn't do much good for me about him but somewhere understandable, I didn't completely write him off whereas anyone advocating child abuse, pornography, prostitution, lashing out about a few figures that isn't in the child prostitution itself but "mere at risk", lost any benefit of the doubt from me. I hope the site crashes and burns. At risk is serious enough for me.
Thank you Ashton.
And I hope you changed cars.
So Backpage.com,who are being sued, is owned by The Village Voice.I think they should get their own house in order before critisizing anyone.
Here on Care2 and on other sites I see petitions and calls to action to shut down this paper or that TV show by targeting their sponsors because someone or some group doesn't agree with their point of view, so why all the fuss?
Ashton added his own comments. He has the same rights everyone else has regarding free speech.
I echo the sentiments of others who have posted, that he is doing the best he knows how to combat a very real, and very awful situation. The videos are in very poor tast, but his site does show videos of very real victims.
Unfortunately, like Kutcher, many of the people who tend to be behind these attempts to help are not using proper numbers or going about proper methods. Laws need to be changed. Prostitutes need to STOP BEING ARRESTED!! Pimps need to be arrested and punished, and johns need to be educated.
I am a sex worker, and I fear that to take away Backpage (like CL was) is to push it all further underground while also taking away free and viable advertising for those of us who LOVE what we do (it has put a serious damper on My clientele). Track down the culprits there, don't get rid of obvious methods of finding them. When you take away BP and CL you make the perps harder to find - and the victims harder to help.
This guys like a bull in a china shop. He has no grasp on the concept of true activism, much less diplomacy.
He may have money, but he'll have to go to OZ for the rest of what he's lacking.
Right now he's punking himself, and he doesn't even realize it!
You may criticize the person, but not the cause. Discrepancies in numbers do not negate the issue. If his facts are wrong, then point out the referenced correction, but do not throw out the baby with the bath water. Usually, such figures turn out to be much greater than what is officially tallied, because there is so much subterfuge with such a despicable crime. Child prostitution is a serious, worldwide problem and thankfully, there are celebrities like Kuscher and Moore who are drawing attention to it. Po-TAY-toes - po-TAW-toes - To-MAY-toes - To-MAW-toes - The statistics, we all know, are very high. Why draw attention away from a great and needy cause with silly bantering about exact figures? The Village Voice would do better for the world by doing some investigating and reporting on the problem themselves. Even if the numbers were half of what Kutcher claimed - which as was stated - were impossible to verify anyway, they are still appallingly high. And if "no one really knows" how many child prostitutes there are in the US anyway, then how can The Village Voice challenge the numbers?
Who does this clown think he is?
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