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I'd like to knock his head Clean OFF!Originally Posted by askmike1
That's ok...I'll just put my bootleg DVD copy a little deeper in the vault,
and lay low with the figgits.
I'd like to knock his head Clean OFF!Originally Posted by askmike1
That's ok...I'll just put my bootleg DVD copy a little deeper in the vault,
and lay low with the figgits.
"They's two B's in basketball!"
I think it's highly overrated. There are some great songs, and the animation is worth a look, but it's just not as good as everyone claims. The story is a little too convoluted, the animated shorts are... well short.Originally Posted by askmike1
It's worth a look for its historical contribution, but I definitely wouldn't call it a "classic". It's far below par of the original stories and the castrated book.
Last edited by Soulquarian; 03-14-2006 at 01:12 PM.
Here you go just buy this DVD I'm sure it's just as good.
"Thank you very much. You may change your mind when I answer your question, though. Um... we've discussed this a lot. We believe it's actually an opportunity from a financial perspective to put Song of the South out. I screened it fairly recently because I hadn't seen it since I was a child, and I have to tell you after I watched it, even considering the context that it was made, I had some concerns about it because of what it depicted. And thought it's quite possible that people wouldn't consider it in the context that it was made, and there were some... [long pause] depictions that I mentioned earlier in the film that I think would be bothersome to a lot of people. And so, owing to the sensitivity that exists in our culture, balancing it with the desire to, uh, maybe increase our earnings a bit, but never putting that in front of what we thought were our ethics and our integrity, we made the decision not to re-release it. Not a decision that is made forever, I imagine this is gonna continue to come up, but for now we simply don't have plans to bring it back because of the sensitivities that I mentioned. Sorry."
-Robert Iger
Friday, March 10, 2006
This is a sensitive subject and I'm just happy to see that Iger has taken the time out to see the film for himself and come to a place where he is happy saying that the financial gain we would make off of the release is not worth compromising our company's integrity. I don't believe Disney should be ashamed of its past and this film, but if the time isn't right and our culture just isn't ready then we have to take that into account the same way we have to take into account the context in which the film was made. In other words, this film was released in 1946 and American culture, especially regarding race was different then, just as it was different during the time this film was set (during the Jim Crow era), and its for those reasons we might just have to wait a few more years.
Until then the bootleg dvd is not hard to come by.
If, as Iger suggests, Disney has released its commercial interest in Song of the South in favor of (overblown) socio-political concerns, then the film should be released to the public domain - - or at the very least licensed to an outside vendor (I'm sure they would line up for the title).
Otherwise, this decision makes no sense. The copyright laws exist only to protect the commercial interests of the rights holder and to protect them from unfair competition... but if a rights holder chooses to suppress a historic and creative subjective work from the marketplace, rejecting its commercial value, the film should no longer be protected by that copyright.
People have a right to view a noted artist's historic work freely.
Copyright: Use it or lose it. But to keep intellectual property from the public under these conditions amounts to nothing less than corporate censorship.
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Quote from http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/sots.htm :Originally Posted by Disney Wrassler
The NAACP acknowledged "the remarkable artistic merit" of the film when it was first released, but decried "the impression it gives of an idyllic master-slave relationship". Disney re-released the film in 1956, but then kept it out of circulation all throughout the turbulent civil rights era of the 1960s. In 1970 Disney announced in Variety that Song of the South had been "permanently" retired, but the studio eventually changed its mind and re-released the film in 1972, 1981, and again in 1986 for a fortieth anniversary celebration. Although the film has only been released to the home video market in various European and Asian countries, Disney's reluctance to market it in the USA is not a reaction to an alleged threat by the NAACP to boycott Disney products. The NAACP fielded objections to Song of the South when it premiered, but it has no current position on the movie.


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I'm not so sure Tangradi couldn't supplant Kunitz. Tangradi has room to improve, and at Kunitz's age, it can only go down. And let's face it, Kunitz is serviceable at what he does there on the PP, but he's much less than ideal.
Tangradi is the ideal net front guy on the PP. If he can up his level of play enough, I think he'd start at least splitting time with Kunitz in that spot.
This is actually possible. But at that point, are people going to be calling Kunitz and his 45 points old and declining because he lost his powerplay spot? I hope we are smarter than that as a fan base. Just look at 2011 TK vs every other year of TK to see what powerplay time means to a player's total stats.
And Jmelm, we are never going to see two even powerplays time-wise unless we split Sid and Geno. And that's not even worth discussing until we have the point guys to run two units. Maybe when Morrow makes the jump. As long as Sid and Geno are both on powerplay line one, powerplay line two will be getting garbage 20-30 second shifts at best aside from extended powerplays. Last year Staal led the 2nd unit powerplay with 1:59 a game and 7 PP points. After him Cooke and TK had 6 and 3 powerplay points.
To put it more simply: Tyler Kennedy was our 3rd forward on the 2nd powerplay. Crosby had more total powerplay time than TK last year.
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Astronomy and Astrology Historical roots of Astrology: As human being gathered capacity to wonder at, and indulge in certain amount of speculation about them, the sun, the moon, the vault of the sky with numerous sparkling stars, bright and dim, must have appealed them. Moreover, the regularity of appearance and disappearance of these objects should have impressed them. The sequence of day and night, the obvious connection of the sun with such alteration of light and darkness, the regular revelation of the splendour of the nightly sky, the periodic waxing and waning of the moon and the unchanging character of the stellar vault must have fired the imagination of the primitive people. No wonder that all ancient civilisations possess proto-astronomy in one form or other. Over a period of time, with meticulous observations and records, they noticed that the hunting seasons also changed along with the periodic change in the night sky. As the primitive society went on to build primitive agriculture settlements, they very soon realised that the sowing times depended on climatic changes or the seasons. The seasons arrived with appearance of certain groups of stars and changed with the arrival of others. In lower Egypt the periodical overflowing of the Nile was noticed to have some connection with the heliacal rising of Sirius. They perhaps vaguely felt that these periodic changes were somehow connected with the most conspicuous of all heavenly bodies, the sun. In all those places where settled agriculture was practiced Solar based calendar is extent. Even in India wherein in olden days Moon based calendar was in use, the same was adjusted to fit-in with the solar cycle, by adding Adhikmas (extra month). Scholars say, perhaps predictive astrology emerged as part of this effort to understand the regularity of cosmic bodies and the earthly events like rain, summer and change in seasons. A search into the history will reveal that astronomy/astrology arose from the social needs of ancient societies. Sky acted as a clock for them, the sun and stars moving 1º in every 4 minutes from east to west. (Actually, this is the angular speed of Earth"s rotation, but, from west to east). Stars give us directions at might, the polaris indicates the North, Southern crux or Thrisanku shows the south, Orion the hunter in midsky shows N-S direction etc. Stars in moon"s path help in naming the days. Moon completes one rotation in 27 days and 8 hrs. So the Lunar path may be divided into 27 equal parts, each consisting of 13º 20' (ie 360/27). So each such space is called a "Nakshatra". Ashawini, Bharani, Kritika etc are stars forming the background of Moon"s position in each day. So, if a child is born on Kritika and today is if Magha, it is clear that it is now 7 days old; similarly if your brother"s marriage is in next swathi and today is Mrigasira, then these are 9 more days left and so on. (Remember that in olden days, Indians had no 7 day weak. It is a Semetic concept where the myth of genesis- God created everything in 6 days and rested in the 7th day, the Sabbath day-existed). While we in India intensely watched the path of Moon, the Babylonians followed the sun"s path, the ecliptic. They divided it into 12 constellations and related sun"s position in each of them to the seasons. This was very helpful to the farmers, traders and society as a whole. Then they noticed that all the planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn- 1 later Indians added 2 more, Rahu and Kethu, the nodal points of solar and Lunar paths) move through the Zodiac with regular periods. That could be used to measure long periods of time. Saturn takes 2 ½ years to cross one Solar Constellation, Jupiter takes 1 year, Mars 1 ½ months and so on. So, if a child is born when Saturn is in Taurus and suppose now it has reached pisces, then 10 rasis (constellations) have been covered by it and hence his or her age must be about 10 x 2 ½ = 25 years now. The calculation can be made more accurate by considering other planets also. Emergence of Astrology Naturally, a little amount of superstition could be expected at this stage because many phenomena lacked physical explanations; eg. a very small circular disc like the sun shines and heats the whole world; another small disc, the moon causes tides; planets usually moving from west to east through the star field, stops motion one day and reverse the direction, called the retrograde motion (Vkara Gathi). So they must have a will of their own, postulated some- who emerged as initial astrologers. All these heavenly bodies must have supernatural powers, they thought. But, nobody thought in those days that a person"s future could be predicted from planetary positions. In fact it is interesting to note that Vedic literature is largely devoid of astrology as we know today. There is no reference to Rasi which is most essential feature of astrology. It is said that the ideas of Rasi came to India subsequently from Mesopotamia. The ancient Indian Astronomy used concepts like Nakshatra, Tithi and so on but not Rasi chakra. Even the "Vedanga Jyothisha" of Lagadha, of around ~10th C. BC, does not give any such indication. However there are references to omens and prophecies in the Vedic literature. Referred variedly as Adhbuta, Utpaata or nimitta, certain rare and specified natural occurrences were expected to foretell future events, good or bad. Omens relates to the happening of unusual events in the presence of one who has the ability to interpret the signs. Rigveda and Atharaveda is replete with reference to Shakuna a ominous bird. Vedic literature also talks of auspicious time – muhurta. On the other hand such beliefs in portents and omens are not to be confused with predictive "astrology". Just before rain one could foretell by sensing the gathering of black cloud or perceive the smell of the soil. The naïve beliefs towards omens are based upon native realism. Nevertheless many of such correlations drawn by the early civilisations have actually proved to be incorrect. Nakshtra Vidya developed and practiced during the Vedic times essentially consisted of omens and predictions based upon the nakshtra occupied by the Moon (janma Nakshtra) at the time of one"s birth (eg; those who are born in Bharani will rule the world etc) In fact even the tallest personality of Indian astronomy, Aryabhatta has no reference to Astrology in his work, Aryabhatiiyam. Eclipse and all other natural celestial phenomena are explained using natural causes. There is no attempt to draw-in supernatural to explain the natural world. 2 Scholars say that in fact, the prediction business started with the Chaldians of Mesopotamia during the 7th C. BC. Babylonian Civilization was in decline, people"s life became miserable and the priests could easily exploit them by divining things from planetary positions. Thus, astrology, which began as an observational science, gradually turned into a pseudo science and by the 4th C.BC, when Alexander conquered Babylonia, the superstitions had reached its zenith. Predictive Astrology gradually spread to Greece and Rome. It was Baroses, a Chaldian priest, who first started a school of astrology in Athens. During the next two centuries, it spread in India (as a Greek influence). Gargan (Garga Muni) seems to be the first person in India who wrote a book on predictive astrology- known as the "Garga Samhita". And the rest is history. Perhaps around 150 AD in the court of Western Kshatapa Rudadaaman in Ujjayini, a Greek manuscript of an astrological text composed in Egypt around 100 AD was translated into Sanskrit. The text refereed to as Yavaneshwara, the names and concepts related to predictive astrology was sanskritised. Though the original work in its entirety is not available portions of it incorporated in Sphujidhavaja composed around 270 AD is avialble. This Yavana Jataka incorporated Egyptio-Greek astrology into Indian astronomy/astrology. The famous Brihit Jaatakam of Varahamihira ( 6 C AD) is candid in acknowledging the Greeks influence on Indian Astrology. His brihat Samhita (II.14) notes that though Greeks (Yavana) are melechas the astrology is well established among them. Even they are honoured as sages. Brihat Jaatakam lists the twelve signs of Zodiac (Rasi). The names are very similar to that of Greek name. Even technical terms like declination (aapoklima) horizon (harija) diameter (Jaamitra) Angle (Kona). Further scholars identify the author of Paulisha Siddhanta, an astrological text with that of Paulus Alexandrinus. The weekdays (Monday to Sunday) that we are so familiar, was not Indian in origin. Earliest inscriptional evidence so far available for the week days is Eran Stone Pillar at of Budhagupta (~4843 AD) Historians say that the practice of naming days after the seven heavenly objects (5 visible planets, Sun and the moon) was commenced by Chaldeans. Name of week days are no where found in Vedas. It is clear that the predictive astrology is not at all "Vedic Astrology" as some make it to be. Aryabhata, tallest personality in ancient Indian astronomy (~ 450 AD) has no reference to Astrology in his work. His work Aryabhatiya, completed in 421 Saka or 499 A.D., included, among others: (1) Aryabhata's advocacy of the diurnal motion of the earth (rather than the apparent rotation of the sun around it), (2) a corresponding theory of gravity to explain why objects are not thrown out as the earth churns, (3) recognition of the parametric variability of the concept of ``up'' and ``down'' depending on where one is located on the globe, and (4) explanation of lunar and solar eclipses in terms respectively of the earth's shadow on the moon and the moon's obscuring of the sun. He seeks no supernatural powers to explain natural (celestial) events like Eclipse. In his work he explains how Solar eclipse occur due to obstruction by moon. He does not even refer to the Puranic myth of Ragu and Ketu. ..But then why India is plagued by astrology? Gupta period in which Aryabhata and his followers lived was one that saw the building of not only Hindu temples but also Buddhist monuments such as Sanchi and universities such as 3 Nalanda and Nagarjundakhonda. It was a period of openness to global ideas, that it was characterized by magnificent achievements in religious-philosophical debates among Jains, Buddhists and Hindus. Soon many parts of India came under the influence of Hindu orthodoxy- esp Manu Smrithi- which had strict injunction against heretical thinking. Caste rules, rules of high and low, rules of untouchability and inequality all were made more and more strict. All knowledge and science was made more secret, secluded, hidden and concealed, and every new thought and invention was opposed. Even Auyrveda Vaidyas were considered "polluted" and down graded in the caste hierarchy. Scientists like Aryabhatta became the subject of attacks. For example, Aryabhatta's work was attacked by Brahmagupta, Bhaskaracharya and Varahmihira. Brahmasiddhanta says "Some people think that the eclipse is not caused by the Head. This, however, is a foolish idea, for it is he in fact who eclipses, and the generality of the inhabitants of the world say that it is the Head that eclipses. The Veda, which is the word of God from the mouth of Brahman, says that the Head eclipses... On the contrary. Varahamihira, Shrishena, Aryabhata and Vishnuchandra maintain that the eclipse is not caused by the Head, but by the moon and the shadow of the earth, in direct opposition to all (to the generality of men), and from the enmity against the just-mentioned dogma" Astronomers, or so-called 'jyotirvids' were denounced ; were declared "polluted". Manu Smrithi condemned and prohibited from being called to yadnyas, mahadanas and shraadhas. Further, the Brahmins changed the meaning of the word jyotirvidya, which now meant those who study the 'effects' of stars on human beings contrary to the original meaning of study of stars, and themselves became 'daivaidnyas', -- the knower of fate. On one hand Astronomy in India was constrained by the new emerging social order, On the other astronomers had to seek legitimacy for their profession. Thus soon astronomers began to parade themselves as astrologers. Even famous astronomers like Varahamihira, Bhramagupta, Baskara –II were astrologers as well as astronomers. This was not the case only in India. So was the case in Europe. Even in West astronomers like Kepler were astrologers, even while they were astronomers. During the middle ages, in Europe, India and almost all over the world, astrology was the major application of astronomy; use in agriculture was limited and important role in navigation came much later. It should be noted that astrology was perhaps the major driver for accurate astronomical observations in the ancient and medieval periods. Astrology thus remained intimately related to astronomy till c. 15th Cent, until the renaissance and Enlightenment movement in Europe. Though Church, sects like Sikhism shunned astrology, decline in importance of astrology (in West esp.) began with the birth of modern Science. Elements of Indian astrology Sun in the sky moves in a path – called ecliptic. The stars against which it moves are grouped into 12 Zodiac constellations – or Rasis. In Indian astrology few other notions are also used. 4 They form part of the panchank - Panch (five) – Ank (elements). The five elements are 1) Thithi- waxing and waning of moon (~ 29/30 days- a month) 2) Nakshartra – position of moon in the background of stars (27 or 28). 1/3rd of each nakshtras is classified as one Padam (feet). 3) Yogam – total of angle of sun & moon 4) Karnam- which is nothing but one half of Thithi and 5) Vara- 7 day week. Tithi is a lunar day, or the time it takes for the longitudinal angle between the moon and the sun to increase by 12°. Tithis begin at varying times of day and vary in duration from approximately 19 to approximately 26 hours. There are 30 tithis in each lunar month. Moon takes about 27.3 days to go around Earth once. The position of moon each day in its orbit aginst a prominat star is called the nakshatra or lunar mansion. There are 27 nakshtras. All planets do not appear to move in the same speed in the night sky. Shani, Guru, Kuja (Mangal), Ravi, Shukra, Budha, Chandra is the order in which they appear to move around Earth. Shani is the slowest. Chandra is fastest. Every day is divided into 24 parts called "hours" (hora). The successive hours are governed by the celestial bodies in the above given order. After every governing the first hour of the day lent its name to that day. For example, if you start from Shani as the planet governing the first hour, that day is Shanivaara (Saturday). The fourth planet from Shani in the given order is Ravi (the Sun) whose name is lent to the next day as Ravivaara (Sunday). Then, the fourth planet from Ravi is Chandra and hence the next day is named after Chandra (the Moon) as Somavaara (Monday), Soma being a synonym for Chandra. Karnam is half of a Tithi. Like day and night of solar day, Karnam is two half of lunar day. One Karana equals 6 degree difference between Moon and Sun. Yogam is angular relationship between Sun and Moon. It is total of the solar and lunar longitude. One Yoga equals 13 degrees:20 minutes. There are 27 Yogas in 360 degrees. This element has no real "physical meaning". This has only astrological significance. Another concept that is used in Astrology is Lagna. This is the zodiac that is on accent at the time of birth (or the event that is being recorded). Kundali is record of celestial objects, inclusive of the lagna at the time of birth. The twelve boxes, of manzil are actually the 12 zodiacs. Suppose in the Kundali Sun is placed in Viruchik and Moon in Simham, then it means that at the time of the birth of the child, Sun was in Viruchik rasi and moon at the Simha rasi. We know that the "position" of planets, moon and so on in the zodiac is not actual. It is only a apparent perception. The zodiac stars have neither physical meaning nor they are an entity. The zodiacal images are fiction like child imagining shapes out of clouds. 5 Astronomy and Astrology Though there is an insurmountable difference between Astrology and Astronomy, most people cannot distinguish the difference. If you talk to them on astronomy, they will listen with interest and in the end they will invariantly ask whether such and such star positions are good or bad. Some may even bring their horoscopes and ask you to predict their future. You may explain to them logically that future depends on so many factors like scientific discoveries, political developments, international situations, natural calamities, availability of resources, human developments etc which are all beyond the control of stars and planets. Planets are lifeless things going round the sun and were mistaken for gods in olden days. Then your audience will say that you don"t understand a thing, there are many things which your science cannot explain. Our old Jyothishis arrived at their conclusions from experience or statistical evidences. It is interesting, in such situation, to quote to them stanzas from "Brihat jathaka" of the Great Varahamikira, like: Udayati Mridubhamse Saptamasthe cha mande Yadibhavathi nisheka Soothirabdethrayena…etc. Which means, if, at the time of conception, Lagna happens to be one of the abodes of Saturn,viz, Capricornus or acquarius and saturn happens to be in the 7th Bhava, then the delivery will takeplace only after 3 years. (Lagna is the rising constellation and 7th Bhava, is the setting one). If instead of Saturn, it is the Moon (ie Lagna in Cancer and Moon is in the setting constellation), then delivery will happen only after 12 years. There are other strange combinations of planetary positions which result in the birth of Snakes, rather than human beings. Can Varaha"s conclusions be the result of observations? According to predictive astrology ones life is completely at the mercy of planets. All our actions are predetermined at birth. Whether you will become a thief or a thug or a Sanyasin depends on your birth chart. Thus Godse had no escape but to kill Gandhiji because it was his destiny and is written in his birth chart (or in the lines of his palm). It was also marked in the birth chart of Gandhiji. A good astrologer could have read it. But even then it could not be avoided since the planetary positions are beyond our control. Then the following question is natural. While selecting souls for hell and heaven, how will God make a choice? no body does anything other than what is destined for him and over which he/she has no control. Isn"t the whole thing absurd? Predictive astrology was enthusiastically received and developed in India, since it fit well into the caste system and the Karma principle. Your birth chart is determined by your deeds (Karma) in your previous birth. Your caste also is determined by the same factor. A wonderful combination, isn"t it? Even now, when the whole world has ceased to take astrology seriously, we have so many ardent followers for it here, especially among the upper castes. Jyothisha has become the mother of all superstitions and is destroying the scientific temper of our people. In September-October 1975 some 186 leading scientists, including Dr. S. Chandrasekhar of Chicago and 18 other Nobel Prize winners published a statement in the American magazine, The Humanist, expressing grave concern over the increased acceptance of astrology in many parts of the world. 6 "We, the undersigned – astronomers, astrophysicists and scientists in other fields- wish to caution the public against the unquestioning acceptance of the predictions and advice given privately and publicly by astrologers. Those who wish to believe in astrology should realise that there is no scientific foundation for its tenets. "In ancient times, people believed in the predictions and advice of astrologers because astrology was part and parcel of their magical world view. They looked upon celestial objects as abodes or omens of the Gods and, thus, intimately connected with events here on earth; they had no concept of the vast distances from the earth to the planets and the stars. Now that these distances can and have been calculated, we can see how infinitesimally small are the gravitational and other effects produced by the distant planets and the far more distant stars. It is simply a mistake to imagine that the forces exerted by stars and planets at the far more distant stars. It is simply a mistake to imagine that the forces exerted by stars and planets at the time of birth can in any way shape our future. Neither is it true that the positions of distant heavenly bodies make certain days or periods more favourable to particulars kinds of actions, or that the sign under which one was born determines one"s compatibility or incompatibility with other people. "Why do people believe in astrology? In these uncertain times, many long for the comfort of having guidance in making decisions. They would like to believe in destiny predetermined by astral forces beyond their control. However, we must face the world, and we must realize that our future lies in ourselves, and not in the stars. "One would imagine, in this day of widespread enlightenment and education that it would be unnecessary to debunk beliefs based on magic and superstition. Yet, acceptance of astrology pervades modern society. We are especially disturbed by the continued uncritical dissemination of astrology by the continued uncritical dissemination of astrological charts, forecasts and horoscopes by media and by otherwise reputable newspapers, magazines and book publishers. This can only contribute to the growth of irrationalism and obscurantism. We believe that the time has come to challenge directly and forcefully, the pretentious claims of astrological charlatans. "It should be apparent that those individuals who continue to have faith in astrology do so inspite of the fact that there is no verified scientific basis for their beliefs, and indeed that there is strong evidence to the contrary." The above statement is signed by 18 Nobel-laureates, a number of professors and men of great learning. It may appear that astronomy and astrology have same computational or positional astronomy basis. It is not a fact today. While astrology still holds earth centered universe and steeped in the Ptolemy"s epicycle theory science has established that in solar system sun is at the center. While the actual position of the stars have shifted due to the precession of the equinoxes (or change in the tilt of the axis of earth), astrology still claims the position to be that as it was about 1000 years ago. If one strictly calculates the eclipses or any other celestial phenomena by traditional vakya panchang, the actual occurrence and the prediction would be widely differing. Indian astrology is even more muddled as it includes two phantom plants – Ragu and Ketu which are not real into its system and no astrological schools ever predicted the existence of planets beyond Saturn- Neptune and Uranus. 7 Astrology under no stretch of imagination can be called as a scientific discipline for various reasons. Largely astrology is a product of human ignorance and fear. Belief that celestial objects like moon and planets were divine could have been result of the ignorance of these objects in olden days. Before the advent of scientific instruments human knowledge of the universe was limited to naked-eye observation and astronomy was not yet a scientific discipline. Today the case is markedly different. Telescopes have laid bare what these objects are, and in fact space have reached almost all the celestial objects. Humans have landed and roamed around moon. From our present knowledge of the planets, on the basis of scientific data and images sent back by space probes, we know that the planets are made up of the same elements as our Earth although the composition of each planet differs. Comets no more arouse fear in our minds because we know where they come from and how they move. There is nothing to support the belief that planetary positions at the time of our birth or any other time can decide our personality or fate, as astrologers would like us to believe. ** Age Calculation: Example. Mesha Rishaba Mithuna Mer. Meen Keth Sun Ven Jup. a u kunbh karthi Mar a ka Makar Sat Simha a Legn Rah Moon a u Kanya Dhanus Vrischikam Tula Keth u Mer. sun, Moo n Rah Sat u Mar. Jup. Consider the two charts: One on the left, the birth chart of a person and the other on the right, the planetary positions on 1-8-2008. What is the age of the person on that day. Simple: Saturn has completed one full circle ie. 30 yrs. So, he is about 30 yrs old. But need not be exact, since we don"t know its exact position at the time of birth and also now. (Each 8 constellation consists of 300 and Saturn could be anywhere between 0 and 30). So we consider Jupiter now, it is clear that Jupiter has completed two full circles and moved 6 more constellations. So his age is 2x12+6=30 yrs again (since Jupiter takes 12 year for one full circle) Again considering other planets (Remember that Rahu and Kethu have retrograde motions come to the same age, but with more accuracy (an accuracy of 1 day). 9
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