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Demonstrators gathered on Saturday afternoon in front of Cairo's High Court of Justice downtown to protest against the Mubarak trial verdicts announced earlier on the same day.
Protesters marched from Tahrir square to the court carrying banners calling for justice for the martyrs and chanting slogans against the trial's verdicts, the Middle East News Agency (MENA) reported. They also called for "purging the judiciary".
Cairo's Criminal Court sentenced deposed president Hosni Mubarak and ex-Interior Minister Habib Al-Adli to life imprisonment after they were convicted of killing protesters in the January 2011 popular uprising.
Yet the court acquitted Al-Adli's six aides of the killing charges and dropped charges of graft and corruption against Mubarak's sons, Gamal and Alaa, due to the expiry of a statute of limitation.
Thousands flocked to Tahrir square chanting slogans against the verdicts and the general attorney.

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Centre of attention
It cost $87m and there are 30 more on the way, paid for by the world's largest charity donation. Yet how is this lavish community centre, run by the Salvation Army, helping the poor? Alison Benjamin reports from San Diego, California.
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Freelance journalist Richard Orange's diligent investigative work helped put Jim Speechley, a former Lincolnshire council leader, in jail for corruption.
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Glad to be a mad media mogulManic-depressive author who aims to be the next Branson.
Vaulting ambitionBurial scholar plans £16,000 funeral - and mausoleum for friends.
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Why kids have kids
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The government takes sustainable development more seriously than most, writes Jonathon Porritt, but some issues remain at the back of the queue.
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The decimation of vulture populations across India, caused by the use of an anti-inflammatory drug, could bring about a public health catastrophe. By Paul Evans.
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Stress ministerIt's politicians who take the flak when things go wrong. But perhaps overwork and badly structured departments are to blame. David Walker reports.
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Arizona's new fireworks law clears up confusion
PHOENIX -- Changes in Arizona's fireworks laws will go into effect Tuesday, making the regulations more uniform and less confusing.
The state law over the past few years was daunting -- some cities allowed fireworks, others did not. The same went for the sales and purchase of fireworks.
Under the new law, signed by Gov. Jan Brewer, private citizens are allowed to buy and use certain types of fireworks through July 6.
"Items that don't go into the air and don't explode, like ground spinners and fountains, are permissible," said Brian Scholl, an inspector for the Phoenix Fire Department.
Scholl said even though fireworks are legal, fire officials would prefer if people didn't buy them.
"Our conditions are so dry, don't use them. Go to the fireworks show and let the pros handle it," he said.
Certain types of fireworks are still banned year-round under the new law: firecrackers, bottle rockets and roman candles.
Firefighters are anxious about the upcoming Fourth of July, which sends them to more fires than any other day.
The Valley has only received about an inch of rain since mid-December. In March a 12-year-old playing with a ground-based firework caused $400,000 worth of damage to a north Phoenix home.


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This is your thread to talk the draft, free agency, labor issues — anything but William and Kate.
First, thanks to everyone for hanging with us through the weekend. The first-round live chat was a huge success. Also, to paraphrase Ali G, mad props to SL draft guru Ted Kian. Pretty sure he's a robot. A very opinionated robot at times, but one with a singular focus come draft time. Hats off to you, sir.
If you're looking to relive the 2011 Draft magic, some handy links:
Discussion Threads
Day 1 Day 2 Day 3
New Steelers Faces
Cameron Heyward Marcus Gilbert Curtis Brown
Cortez Allen Chris Carter Keith Williams Baron Batch
* Non-draft-related, but I didn't want this to get lost in the mix. SL reader and attorney Jeremy Clark has an enlightening take on the recent labor issues. Great read.
* Post-draft Steelers presser. Colbert says they identified 100 players prior to the draft who could help the team and "we got seven of them."
* Finally, this seems like the perfect way to wrap things up: Mayock's take on the Steelers' draft haul:
(It was a) typical (Steelers draft). I mean, Kevin Colbert, I can't say it enough, is one of the most underappreciated decision makers in the National Football League.
Picking at 31 he gets Cam Heyward, just bring your hard hat and go to work, tough kid, he's an ideal five-technique. Marcus Gilbert will play tackle for them. Trai Essex has been hurt, they've had all kinds of issues at the tackle position. Curtis Brown a corner, Cortez Allen a developmental corner.
Chris Carter, an explosive edge rusher from Fresno. Stuck his hand in the dirt there. He'll stand up and be a lot like Woodley, a lot like Harrison. Keith Williams is an interior offensive lineman. And then a great character guy at the end of it, Baron Batch. I mean, that is a typical Pittsburgh Steeler.
And when I talk about Kevin Colbert, it doesn't matter if the head coach is Bill Cowher or Mike Tomlin, the consistency of the organization stays the same.
Now feel free to predict the Steelers' undrafted free-agent signings. Even though no one knows when the hell that will actually happen.


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Fun report and my popcorn bowl is full, IN for the duration.
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NomadGal, I've been following your report since your first stop in Lincoln for Euro Bike night. Didn't get a chance to meet you that night but at least I got to meet you at Pie-fest. Enjoying your RR and looking forward to reading more about your travels.
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NomadGal, I suspect you have a lot more people subscribed to your Ride Report than you realize. I've been subscribed since the start.
Keep riding and keep smiling.
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Nice to "meet" you!
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I'm back in Ames Iowa.
After Red Oak I encountered some road work, thought this was a pretty unique road composition, black and white.
Looked at the map, and decided to take Highway 25, just cause my B-Day is on the 25th. While riding I glimpsed this hug rock that had been painted, I turned around cause I was curious as to what was painted on it.
Turns out this rock is famous.
The young man who started this, think he was 19 at the time, did this after seeing Saving Private Ryan.
He changes it every year
I am so against war that seeing this made me very sad...... what a waste, we could do so much better than this!
The only way I can cope with mankind's stupidity is in believing that everything happens for a reason.
Guess the only way to long for world peace is to finally get fed up with world war. I sure hope that comes around sooner than later!
The view behind the rock gave me a bit of peace. Nature does wonders for the soul. A bit of heaven in this crazy world.
Another red barn
Iowa has some amazing skies, and the camera is not doing justice to the different colors of the field. There were different hues of yellows and golds and ochres.
Now I can truly say, without lying, that I have been to Jamaica!
Got back to Ames via some obscure country roads that were just awesome, P30 is one of them.
Back at Robert's house Nickel was happy to see me again. He kept following me around like a young puppy dog, even though he is a really old cat (14yrs).
Using the sink together was a bit of a challenge. Hey Nickel, can I spit out my toothpaste now??
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Still following, like many others.
Stay safe and keep smiling!
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Just found your RR this AM. I'm caught up now and it looks like the start of a great adventure. My wife and I have ridden from Va to some of the places you've visited but for now we've put traveling on hold.Our yellow lab Libby is almost 14 so we do just day trips now.
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What an awesome report! I was wondering at first about the battery on your KLR as they don't need a battery to run unless something else is amiss. I've had to push start mine several times due to flat batteries or loose connections either on the battery , ground or fuse. Glad the wires you found solved the problem. Love the back roads of America also no matter if on my KLR or Bandit. Thanks for the time and work to share your journey.
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YAY! Back on the road again..... guess I'm a restless soul.
Spend 6 days at Robert's house watching the cat and painting. I loved it, his house is very comfortable, and he made me feel welcome.
Wow, he even posed!
Starting to pack up the bike before he even got home showed I was anxious to get going again.
I love sleeping in my tent, and being in the forest or just outside.
I had a great lucid dream the night before he came home, about my grandmother who passed away. Seeing her in my dream made me realize I was dreaming and I became lucid. It was wonderful being with her again, and asked her questions about how she was, and what it was like bing dead. She gave me some funny answers. One of them was that she was learning how to ride a horse. LOL.
Still it felt real being with her and I gave her a hug goodbye as I felt that I couldn't hold on to my lucidity.
I left Sunday August 26th, and right before I did so, Robert gave me his Down sleeping bag, and I left my colossal bag with him. Wow, Spirit looks better without it on her! Haha.
Now a smaller sleeping pad, and I can get one of those cases on the back and stash everything in it.
I am a tad worried about the wind on Mackinaw Bridge, so not having that huge thing sticking out is a relief!
I think this is a Norwegian little town.
I rode Eastward and watched as the landscape changed from corn to forest.
Yep another red barn
My first glimpse of the Mississippi!
Found a campsite, Pike's peak National Park, overlooking the Mississippi, and pitched my tent.
It was still light so I decided to walk to the bluff and take some pictures.
Wow! A parking spot just for bikes, cool!
The view was amazing!!
The thing about riding everywhere is that you start to feel like your legs are atrophying so I decided to go for a little hike.
It looked like fun heading down there!
Hmmm, not so much fun heading back up (only 200 steps though)
I can imagine how amazing this fall must look in the spring. Iowa has had a long dry spell!
Left the next morning (sleepily, some drag racing going on outside the campground in the middle of the night!) after having talked for a while with one of the campers who turned out to be a hypnotist. He was on the road as well, from one gig to another, helping people to get over fears and other things. He said the problem was that people just wanted to get fixed, but never really wanted to delve into their own psyche to find out what the trouble really was. I guess that will only happen when you are finally ready to take a deeper look at yourself and deal with what you find.
On my way North I dropped by Effigy Mounds National Monument.
There are tons of mounds there that are still being researched. Basically they are burial grounds of animals and humans, and no one knows exactly who made these.
Rode through a pretty little town called McGregor
Decided to go into Wisconsin so I could ride close to the river.
Yep, here too, red barns!
Had to turn around and take a pic of this street. Saw it as I rode by.
After looking for a reasonably priced campground I decided to go over the bridge into Minnesota, seeing as I though $27 was a tad much for camping out.
Found a cool site for $11 at Kruger camp, south of Wabasha. Spirit and my tent, Home sweet home!
Now, don't get me wrong, meeting folks is great, but here at the camp, while riding into it, I met this guy on a Yamaha called Elmer. He invited me to his place, but I kindly told him no thanks, I love camping. I didn't know what to think of him.... He kept spitting , yuck!
I said bye and started looking for a good camping spot, when he showed up again and said he'd show me the perfect place. I tried to have an open mind and heart and said ok. He drove to the other side of the campground and indeed showed me a nice little spot with grass and a bit of a view. Then he lingered for a long while while I pitched up my tent. Then the campsite host joined him, and together they watched me pitch up my tent and get my stuff off the bike. It feels rather odd being observed doing my thing! Elmer just couldn't believe Spirit was capable of riding that long of a distance and with all that gear on it. I think Spirit would have spit at him of she could have!
Finally after having talked a bit more, he was a farmer who grew corn, and also a power plant worker at the local prison, Elmer said bye. He still must not have believed me when I said I loved camping, LOL. He was an ok guy, and meant well, but I still didn't feel very comfortable around him.
Spend a great night in my new sleeping bag, it was wonderfully quiet! BRoke camp and headed North along the river toward Stillwater.
Lake Pepin
Rode through Lake city, a very picturesque little town.
Right now I'm in Red Wing, having some salad and fries at you know where!
Time to post this and hit the road again. Not going too far today, I thin I want to paint some more.
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Currently in Duluth, got my first glimpse of the lake!
Here are some pics of the last few days.
Going through Stillwater
Perfect shot of this gorgeous red barn!
I love it when a town has flowers hanging from the street lights
If you look closely you can see my shadow *:Hap1:
From my campsite to the river
I think the rock was too shiny, so I look very ghostly haha
How much room does one gal really need!!!! A lot! Hahah, airing out my junk
One more classic red barn
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In Grand Marais right now drinking a cop of tea in a coffee shop, which is funny cause I've decided not to drink coffee anymore. I miss it though ;.(..
After Chengwatana I headed North to Duluth.
Well....... my first glimpse of it was not to good, my reaction was basically YUCK!
It was all grey and ghetto looking, smog and industrial chimneys, too many cars, big freeways with bridges running over and under each other. Basically the stuff I normally avoid like the plague.
Once I got past it and saw the nice part of town and the lake, it was all G!
I love the road along the lake, it is gorgeous and not too many folks on it at all!
Saw this humongous statue on the side of the road. I should have put the restaurant in the pic as well to have a reference. This guy is about 15 or more feet tall
I checked out another state park, and again it was $25! so no way!
Stopped by Tofte forest ranger station and they gave me a map of some free camp sites. Yay!!
Rode up to country road 2 and up into the hills. The road soon changed into gravel and I kinda felt skittish being on dirt again. After almost 4 weeks my rib is feeling pretty good. I can sneeze and cough again without hurting. Still can't push on it, and it feels a little off. Being on gravel again felt scary, but I decided it was worth getting a free night. I rode for about half an hour or more on this.
Pretty hard but very squarely with ruts underneath.
Afterwards I found my turnoff 164 to trout river campsite.
They weren't' kidding about the trucks!!
Holy cow, one came thundering down this narrow road, and I had to ride into the ditch to avoid being squashed!
The road was so worth it!!!
There was only one other camper there, and quite a ways away.
Found this little trail and wanted to see if there was an overlook so I could see the sunset. There wasn't one nearby, instead I found a lot of these!
I wonder if a slug can eat these, would it be safe for humans too?
I really want to learn which mushrooms are safe for consumption. my mouth was just watering seeing them all. I love fried mushrooms, and thought of Jim's friends in Lewiston Idaho, who took me out Morel hunting.
This picture doesn't do the peace and serenity of the place justice, but then again, no picture really could!
Had a great night's rest. It was pretty cold at night. After a week of 80 degree nights, the temp dropped to 45. I am loving the down sleeping bag, and find myself still breathing in the morning, so I guess no more allergies! :nana
Turns out that the dirt road further down to country road 4 and down to Lutsen was a heck of a lot shorter and easier. Go figure!
Rode up to Grand Marais
Lovely little town on the lake.
I took the Gunflint Hwy cause I heard so much about it.
Well........... It was a major let down! I had expected a way more rustic road with lots of views of the water and wild moose.
What I found was a wide road with not much to see, and restaurants, Lodges, and giftshops scattered along the way.
Still was able to take a view okay pics
I am pretty sure this was an eagle! It kept following me.
I rode back toward Grand Marais faster than I rode to the end of the road, and decided to have a cup of tea and post my RR.
I am heading to another free campsite on the map. I hope it's as nice as last nights one.
Then because my friend in Minnesota has no time for me I decided to just head to Minnesota tomorrow of the day after. So I get to give Duluth another chance.
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Aaahhhh, I am all relaxed and ready to ride for a while!
I rode back toward the free campsite I had stayed the night before, but right before I got there decided to take a peek at White Fish lake, that also had 3 free camping spots. I am glad I did.
It was beautiful and very peaceful, and had only one other camper, a family of three.
At first I thought that 2 of the three sites were taken, but it turned out that the family really did not want to end up with some noisy days barking next to them, so they just planted a bunch of stuff on site 2 and "screened" the drive by's.
They did ask me if I wanted to camp on that site, but the other one actually had a flat spot so I took it.
Steve dropped by later and asked if I wanted to come over and have dinner.
I warmed up my Indian food, and went over.
His wife Nancy and son Mike were very nice too, they had made me a veggie shish kebab, very tasty!
We sat and had dinner and shared stories. One of them was hilarious!
Steve's friend, let's just call him Buddy, is a pretty big guy, and he had bought himself a mummy sleeping bag good for cold weather. So he goes of and camps out in the forest during the winter. Crawls in his mummy bag and goes to sleep.
Well, he ends up waking up in the middle of the night and find that he can't move his hands. Of course half asleep, and not thinking clearly, he panics thinking his arms were frozen, and tries to get up and out of the tent.
He finally manages to get on his knees and his face near the zipper so he can open the tent door with his teeth, only to have his tong get stuck to the freezing cold zipper head. After the door is open he has to yank his tong off the zipper, and he hops outside still stuck in his sleeping bag. Well Steve is mimicking the whole story, so it was pretty funny to watch as well! End of story is that after hopping a while Buddy realizes that he can feel his arms again, they had been asleep because he had been lying on them. LOL
I stayed at the campsite the next day and moved the rear wheel back a tad to tighten the chain that finally after a few thousand miles stretched a teensy bit.
I also got a chance to mend a few things that had broken, like the velcro on my tent, and gotten on pants.
As I was sewing, look what walked into my tent site and then walked out again. I followed it into the other site and took a picture
I had a blast watching a squirrel tackle a half apple that was on a bench, he was really chewing off some good sized chunks, and rolling around with that apple while doing it.
then a beautiful butterfly landed on the bench.
Then I ended the day with a shower out of the bag, and working on my paintings. Very relaxing.
Walked over to Steve and his family to let them know about the fox, and we took a group picture.
That sweater makes me look like I'm twice as beg! LOL! now I know what to wear when I see a bear!
Toward sunset I walked to the lake and I was glad I did, managed to take a good picture of the sunset
Broke camp early this morning and I am in Twin Harbor right now, heading for Duluth and Minnesota.
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The "Thing" at the end: With whom do you fall?
The ending of Mass Effect 2 came up on the bombcast, and everyone but Jeff started acting like it was stupid, and had always been stupid. To which I was like: huh. I loved the twist at the end of 2, didn't even mind the design of the terminator baby thing. So it got me thinking, what's the popular opinion of that twist at the end of Mass Effect 2:
Not just the design itself, but the twist that yo: they were basically grinding people up and turning them into intergalactic sperm.
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#3 Posted by believer258 (12968 posts) -
...the Terminator looking thing?
It didn't bother me. It was kind of dumb, in retrospect, but whenever I fight that thing I don't have that "this is fucking stupid" thought going through my head.
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#5 Posted by Hunter5024 (6447 posts) -
I was kind of indifferent to it, which really is probably worse than thinking it was stupid. I think it's pretty cool in concept at least.
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#7 Posted by mikey87144 (2000 posts) -
I thought it was dumb at the time and the whole thing was kind of stupid. The mission itself was great so I'm not going to ding the game for that one tiny mistake.
#9 Posted by joshthebear (2704 posts) -
Reaper baby is fucking stupid.
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#12 Posted by Ravenlight (8057 posts) -
Both? It was hella stupid but pretty neat at the same time.
No, it was kind of stupid. Not like "this ruins the game" stupid, but preeeeeeetttty ~ stupid. Just felt like "okay, we need a boss fight here and we watched a whole lot of those Terminator movies."
Mass Effect 2 is still one of my favorite games of all time, though.
I mean, one of my other favorite games of all time has *this* for a side-dungeon final boss/hardest fight in the game:
Oh, the "twist?" I mean, that's actually something they were hinting at with previous games. They were abducting entire colonies and not turning *all* of them into Drones. I didn't find anything wrong with that; though weirdly I just expected another Reaper to look like a gigantic squid-ship.
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#14 Posted by MooseyMcMan (12013 posts) -
It made for a cool looking boss fight, but conceptually it was pretty stupid.
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#15 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7597 posts) -
It was pretty silly, but it at least had a reason for existing that was explained in the game without the need for DLC.
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#16 Posted by TheSouthernDandy (4012 posts) -
I didn't mind the it that much but the actual fight where it's playing peek-a-boo with you over the ledge was kinda dumb. That whole mission was super rad though.
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#17 Edited by Oldirtybearon (5291 posts) -
The concept of fighting a barely sentient/completed Reaper in the finale of Mass Effect 2 is sound. What's even more sound is the original design of the Reaper baby, which is horrifying on many levels.
#18 Posted by joshthebear (2704 posts) -
It was stupid, and the boss fight itself was fucking terrible. People love ME2 but you have to admit that whole human reaper thing was a huge letdown.
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#20 Posted by MikeFightNight (1153 posts) -
Liked the concept, the design was lame. The battle wasn't great, but boss battles hardly are. It was servicable and the mission leading up to it, fucking rad.
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#22 Posted by pyromagnestir (4386 posts) -
It's a video game boss fight... And not the good kind, like in Metroid Prime or something.
#24 Posted by joshthebear (2704 posts) -
@psylah said:
That is fanfuckingtasic. The final pane is amazing.
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#25 Posted by Captain_Felafel (1695 posts) -
I think the part where it looks like half of a Terminator is kind of hokey, but the idea of the Reapers converting humans into nondescript organic material to make a human reaper is kind of badass, not to mention entirely central to what Reapers are themselves.
It was massive, clumsy, slow, underwhelming, took place on an isolated platform suspended in mid air, and probably worst of all, the core mechanics were that you had to survive a wave of attacks, wait for it to inexplicably open up its weak spot and then shoot it while it was down. It is everything that is wrong with bad video game boss fights.
It was at that precise point that I could not believe that everyone was talking about this game so fondly.
As for the concept, it was alright. I didn't think that it was particularly amazing, though, and it certainly wasn't unique.
The worst part to me is actually the part where they make you fight the thing.
It would have been ok, but still pretty stupid, if you just shot it down and then that was that, but no, it's a videogame so of course it has to come back up from the depths of the base somehow and be a really boring bossfight.
Why after so many civs fighting back they have to choose humans? There must have been at least one creature as impressive as shepard in fucking millenia.
Why a baby? Its a robot that is supposed to take the shape of the most badass thing in the universe and it chooses an infant human instead of a grown one?.
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#31 Edited by probablytuna (4234 posts) -
I wasn't really surprised by the reveal and I didn't think it was stupid at all. I actually found the idea that inside every Reaper shell lived a being they once harvested and had become the basis for a Reaper (or more) was very cool.
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#33 Posted by CrystaljDesign (164 posts) -
"Oh crap, we need a giant monster for the player to fight or else they will feel unfulfilled upon completion of the game!" --How I imagine the conversation went down during development.
It was profoundly stupid, especially the idea that they need to pulp thousands of humans to make a giant metal robot. That being said, ME2 is still one of my favorite games of all time.
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#35 Posted by The_Ruiner (1364 posts) -
Big robot boss...didn't bother me... at least It all didn't come down to babysitting a truck...then doing it again...yuck
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#36 Posted by Zippedbinders (1083 posts) -
You mean the thing they stole from Contra 3?
Contra 3 was fucking rad. Alien Wars > Hard Corps 4lyfe.
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#38 Posted by Tennmuerti (8515 posts) -
It was scientifically and logically the dumbest thing I've seen in a (somewhat serious) sci-fi setting in a long long while.
Easily beats the childish way Binary Domain handles AI issues.
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#39 Edited by ExplodeMode (851 posts) -
C. Crazy stupid.
The mission still felt great. The tone and the pacing and the music, all great. That boss, when you reflect on it, total nonsense.
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#40 Posted by BaconGames (3834 posts) -
Yeah I thought the Human Reaper thing was kind of dumb but more wonky dumb than badumb, which is its own problem given how well they've sold that universe. However when coupled with why they were making it and how, human slurpy machine, then it really reveals the bigger problem with ME2's plot which to me is worse than dumb. Since this thread is about the ending I'm not going to get into it but needless to say it made me think real hard about the rest of the game, leaving me with the impression ME1 was my favorite of the two.
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#42 Posted by Lind_L_Taylor (4116 posts) -
As for the giant creature at the end, it reminded me of a Heavy Metal story. Don't
know if you ever read those but they had a lot over the top stuff like that. It was all
pretty good.
@AndrewB said:
No, it was kind of stupid. Not like "this ruins the game" stupid, but preeeeeeetttty ~ stupid. Just felt like "okay, we need a boss fight here and we watched a whole lot of those Terminator movies."
Mass Effect 2 is still one of my favorite games of all time, though.
I mean, one of my other favorite games of all time has *this* for a side-dungeon final boss/hardest fight in the game:
Oh, the "twist?" I mean, that's actually something they were hinting at with previous games. They were abducting entire colonies and not turning *all* of them into Drones. I didn't find anything wrong with that; though weirdly I just expected another Reaper to look like a gigantic squid-ship.
It didn't bother me. It's as stupid as any other game ending boss. I barely care about what I fought at the very end when the whole suicide mission, from the time you make the jump, is just fantastic. Getting caught up on one tiny detail when the entire end is so great is just silly to me. It's like maybe 3% stupid in an otherwise perfectly executed ending mission.
So "Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!"
And the ending to Mass Effect 2 certainly kicks the every-loving shite out of the ending to Mass Effect 3, stupid end Terminator or not.
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#46 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2386 posts) -
I enjoyed it and and it was really creepy too but pretty basic in how you approach the fight.
Personally I found the ending kind of abrupt. I was expecting a system beyond the Omega relay and a bit more story to explore so I rather surprised when the whole thing turned into a space battle.
As such it didn't really register with me too much at the time about the appearance of the reaper in terms of form, however afterwards I did think it seemed kind of dumb. There's not really any logic or rationale as to why an ostensibly space based entity would require a human appearance and it flew in the face of the cuttlefish look of the other reapers. The totem-ism just seemed like an unnecessary conceit.
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Forecast 2012.. Look for an early start to the 2012 season as the Northeast has had a mild winter. For instance in years past we have had striper action as early as the end of March, especially if the herring come into the estuaries early. The Cape Cod Ponds have been consistent all winter with trout. On the warm sunny days there is a white fly hatch.
October 18th, 2010Fish are still here! Bluefish along hardings beach yesterday. 1 mile off chatham bass along bottom jig technique working best 30 feet of water. Cape Cod Canal has a fall run of stripers moving thru. August 5th, 2010Bonito have shown up. Tuna bite allittle slower compard to a fantastic first 2 weeks of July. Plenty of bluefish in Cape Cod Bay. Most of our striper action off Chatham to Race Point in deeper water with jig technique working best. South side estuaries kind of cooled off as the water temp is very high. On the Fingers in Sandwich has reported varied action. June 20th, 2010All areas of the Cape seem to be holding fish. With note worthy areas from Pamet harbor up to P-town and around the race and down to truro this week. Blue fish at Stage and Wychmere. Large pods of monster bass moving thru the canal. Did we mention cape Cod Bay.June 7th, 2010Water temp on Cape Cod 60 degrees. So far, the Cape cod bay has fished the best. Brewster Flats and Wood End up in P-town lots of keepers in shallow water. Billingsgate as well. Tuna showing up at Stellwagon and the Chatham B-B bouy. Bishops started to get better this week. Great Island in Hyannius showing better action. Still waiting for Monomoy to light up, it will. Sporadic action on the south side jetties and estuaries, they are getting better, although Cotuit and Ponponest saw the best early action in May. Provincetown harbor and Barnstable Harbor in the 2nd half of May were good also.May 10th, 2010Spotty, but the first waves of fish are here. Things should start to heat up. -Barnstable Harbor had a bunch of stripers in last week-Pomponesset at New Seabury blues and stripers-Some birds working off Head of the Meadow Eastham-P-town Harbor with some action as well-Bass river some pods of fish
Fall Fishing, 2007Look for great fall fishing thru October Blitz, Blitz, Blitz, surf pluggin, fly roddin, big bass... Bluefish going crazyLabor Day, 2007This is the time of the year when bass and blues will be heavily pushing bait to the surface. There is tons of small sized bait fished all over the Cape. In Cape Cod Bay we are seeing the first run or really big migrating Bass coming down from Maine. Tuna still 15 to 20 miles south of Chatham. Look for the rivers to fill back up with bass as they chase the smaller bait fish inward this time of year. So the fly guys have the 2nd wave from the salt marshes again, better then the duldroms of heated up water in mid summer. The air temp is in the 70's and will remain here for 3 or 4 weeks and gradually start to drop. As the temps drop the bass will become even more active and start their fall feeding for the winter. Blue fish will be exploding on the surface over the next 3 weeks. false albacore are here in nantucket sound as well including spanish mackeral and bonito.August 12 -15, 2007Big news off Chatham North beach as a great white took a seal and this was witnessed by the beach going crowd. Seal population from provincetown to tip of Monomoy estimated at 4000 to 6500.21 miles south of Chatham first light the tuna bite. In the shipping lanes yesterday minke whale and humpback breaching. Hankerchief shoals first report of false albacore. South below Nantucket and the Vineyard to the Canyons yellow tail, white marlin, and dolphin.Great fishing. July 28th, 2007Cape Cod Bay all week larger stripers mixed in with blues not too shabby. Blue fin tuna south of Chatham like 20 miles bite at first light. Nantucket Sound full of bluefish. Shark fishing on as the water temp has really came up over the last several weeks. Martha's Vineyard annual shark tournament with winner on a 500 pound Thresher shark. Most pelagic species canyon fishing. Dog fish and blue shark on.July 20th, 2007Solid striper and blue fishing. Decent Tuna bite. Pelagic species available. July 12th, 2007Pretty decent fishing larger stripers in the rips at monomoy tip taking surface stuff. Mix of fog this week led to some interesting fishing. Cape Cod Bay doing fine. Pelagic species here.July 4th weekend 2007Definately the busy time of the year for boating traffic. For fishing, best bet is to plan your trip early in the morning or later in the evening as this helps to keep anglers out of the traffic. Also this time of year fish tend to spook easier compared to the spring. This is due to a combiantion of factors including higher sun, more pressure, and more boat activity. If you plan your trip on the moving tides this will help to catch more fish especially this time of year. When the tide moves at certain times it can trigger the eating patterns of the game species. All the bait shops on Cape Cod have tide charts. Hankerchief shoals reporting nice schools of stripers on July 3rd. Blue fin tuna off chatham 7 miles and tuna bite has been on at Stellwagon over the last two weeks. The south side estuaries water temp is heating up look for the stripers to move out into cooler water. Stripers hitting hard on Harwich jetties today.June 21`st, 2007Plenty of action bluefish all over nantucket sound close to the beaches around Chatham and Harwich. Brewster flats on fire with smaller stipers. Can't really miss during these weeks in JuneJune 18th, 2007Much wind this week on all sides of the Cape blowing from the north east and also northwest. This weekend the wind is settling down abit switching over to south west, yet still bringing high seas. Sunday and Monday looks like great days for fishing just in time for father's day. For those brave enough to fish in the bad conditions this week plenty of action. The fish are here, Reports of 30 to 40 pound stripers off Hyannis Harbor /Bishops. Bluefish pretty much all over Nauntucket Sound and they are close to shore. 25 inch stipers hot on flies as well pretty much all over. June is a great month for fly fishing on Cape Cod. You can't really miss. Lots of Action on the 18 to 25 inch stripers Brewster flats, pleasant Bay and south side estuaries. June 12th, 2007Nice pods of bluefish on the south side beaches and jetties moving up and down the beach on small sand eels.June 5th,2007Great action Cape wide. Bit of nasty weather this week. Plenty of action for 18 to 25 inch stripers. Memorial Day 2007,Plenty of action over the last several weeks. Lots of striped bass in the 25 inch range. Look for all sorts of action in all the estuaries on Cape Cod. Weather has turned nice this week making for delightful fishing.April 2nd, 2007First pods of herring are showing up coming in from the ocean on Cape Cod Bay through to the creeks and up into the mill ponds. Look for striper activity at the jetty lines and far up into Scortons, Paynes, or Quivet Creek. Also look for the herring gulls and this will show the path to the herring.All over the Cape this activity will continue through April and into May. Use lare 6 to 10 inch herring immitating plugs. The herring have a blueish/black top going into sort of greenish at times and pearl in the body. So use colored plugs that match this, and don't ask us why chartruse works but at this time of year it works well.October 20th, 2006
Fish still here, when the sun is out the weather is in the 50's and 60's.
October 5th, 2006
Menhaden/ Bunker/Pogie? whatever they are here and in the harbors heavy. Bigger blue fish slashing through these pods. Herring fry dropping down from the mill ponds smaller stripers still deep up into the estuaries, maybe they never leave? Migrate south? Bigger stripers coming down through the canal on the south migration. Albies off Nantucket. Tuna off Chatham still in 8 to 10 mile range. South side jetties medium sized blue fish cruising up the beaches on pods of bait. Fall run an fishing all around still very good and it will get better water temp still is 61 degrees.
September 22nd, 2006
I fished Quivet Creek, Pleasant Bay, Harding's Beach, and Scorton's. The herring fry are dropping down from the ponds and the sripers are staging in the estuaries. This is classic fall action with tail hitting on top popper heaven. I found very aggressive striper feeding in all of these locations. The smaller blues can be chased down at sporadic beach activity all along the south side jetties)look for birds working). Several harbors are showing very large schools or menhaden with slashing real big blue fish outside the bait balls. Over the last three weeks plenty of pelagic species action with football size tuna from 4 miles to 8 miles off chatham. Sporadic false albacore action in Nantucket sound up to Buzzards bay. Monomoy tip to Nantucket rips producing large blues. Large stripers taken on wire trolling methods such as tube and worm, jigging, and big spoons in those rips as well.
Septmber 2nd, 2006
Earnesto is in and bringing winds strong from the North East. Surf advisory. These conditions can blow in big pods of bait on the outerbeaches, but generally this is snotty fishing. For seasoned surf casters this can provide a real chance to catch large fish. But you have to know what you are doing. Race point has the mung. Best bet is to fish the harbors; Stage, Wellfleet, Pamet, Barnstable are all holding fish. Mostly small blues mixed in with sporadic striper activity. Tip of Monomoy rips have produced most of the good fishing at the last stretch on August. Water and air temperatures have dropped and start to look for serious action on all the beaches especially bluefish and false albacore. Tuna have come closer to Chatham in the past week. Maybe they might keep coming up to the beaches from P-town down to Chatham.
August 24th, 2006
Strike my last report regarding false albacore, they are here from tip of monomoy towards Morris Island. Plenty of bluefish all over the Cape and Islands. Stripers are kind of hanging out at the moment. Pelagic species abound. Sharks as well.
August 22nd, 2006
Tuna are in and have been here. No false albacore yet. Plenty of bluefish. The stripers have been picky since last week. They started to get excited on Sunday morning again. Best fishing tip of Monomoy. Tuna 12 miles off Chatham. Cape Cod Bay dogfish and blues. Decent surface action on outside beaches sporadic. Birds working in Pleasant Bay and Nauset Inlet smaller bluefish and pod cruising stripers. Stage harbor snapper blues. South side jetties blue fish. Top of Cape Cod Bay Stellwagen Bigger tuna slashing on blues. Look for the other pelagic species black fin, albacore, yellow tail, and bonito from now thru September.
August 8th, 2006
Great fishing in Chatham. Great white shark sited off monomoy eating a seal. And a large mako taken this past weekend off monomoy. Stripers at the first bouy off chatham light. Plenty of big fish cape Cod bay on jig and trolling.
June 15th, 2006
Great fishing everywhere.
June 1st , 2006,
We have had tremendous success with stripers in the 18 to 22 inch range the past several weeks and into this week. We fish the Atlantic side Pleasant Bay and have done well, south side jetties producing larger stripers in 28 inch range. North side is full of smaller stripers with pods of larger cruisers. We have been using white, pink, and yellow plastic slugos, twister tails, at times with small jig heads or rigging weedless. Fly Fisherman using small decievers, half and half, in white and green have had major success as well. A major sand eel hatch just occured this week on the Brewster flats. Two weeks prior large pods of squid in Nantucket Sound. Cut Mackeral, clam belly, or frozen squid cast out about 30 yards off shore on a fish finder seems to be working well. Two handed spey-flyrod in the rips have produced fish.
May 18th 2006,
This striper was landed using a cut mackeral/ with fish finder cast about 30 yards off shore on the south side jetties in Harwichport. The smaller stripers have been in heavy for the past two weeks and the larger bass are moving in now as well.
May 17th,
First Sunny Day in a stretch. Although the air temperature has been cold this May and it has been very rainy plenty of action abounds. Stipers everywhere in the rivers and harbors.
May 5th, 2006
The air temp today and tommorrow has risen. The trees still have buds on them with no leaves in New England. The river estuary systems are full of 18 to 22 ich striped bass. Swan River in Dennis, Oyster River in Chatham, and the Herring river in Wellfleet are reporting plenty of fish. The reason the stripers frequent these rivers this time of year in in chase of the migrating herring which move up into the Mill ponds and feeder streams to spawn.
April 27th , 2006
This nice striper was taken on the Swan River estuary in Dennis today. The fish lazily took the large herring plug. The water is still sort of cold and the fish are her on Cape, but not so active. Lots of one's and two's. As soon as the water temp starts to rise these fish will get much more active. Don't worry I released the fish after the photo was taken.
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May 5th, 2005
This client is enjoying the fight of the striped bass. Fishing in the estuary on a Kayak is fun during the springtime. Note the striper in the cockpit of the boat( his head has a white 6 inch mister twister tail grub) in it. The white tailed mister twister is a good overall attractor pattern which can be used all season long. We also landed many stripers using a medium diving herring plug. This time of year the fish will not hit a surface popping plug as much as the medium divers.
April 6th, 2006
Pod of herring staging in a pool getting ready to move up the fish ladder into a fresh water Mill Pond. The herring come out of the Atlantic to spawn. Note the 100's of fish in the photo.
The herring runs need to be free of obstruction this time of year. Each town on the Cape has a run. There is a town warden who monitors each run during April to ensure that noone takes the herring or handles them. If you handle these fish when they are on this journey the could get so stressed and not make the journey.
Oct 16, 2005
Last week we had a stretch of rain which lasted about 8 days. However, the water temperature on Cape is still warm compared to previous years. I caught 25 stripers in a south side estuary today. The fishing will be good throughout Novemeber this season. The inland river systems of New England are at flood stages due to the heavy rains and this has adversly affected fall trout fishing. Before winter hits come to the Cape and we'll satisfy you. First day of bow season in Mass was yesterday. This time of year hunt or fish? That is a true conundrum.
Oct 2, 2005
All areas of the cape exploding with action, bluefish in all size range, tuna, false albacore and stripers. And this is going to last to Hallwoeen, the water is still warm, book a trip now!
September 24 to Oct 15th, 2005
This past week has been fantastic fishing. Cape Cod Bay fish in the 30 pound range on green/black jigs. 2 miles off Chatham to Nauset beach football size tuna on the surface. Large schools of Menhaden with 10 plus pound bluefish slashing. All estuaries full of silversides. Brewster flats still has peanut bunker and this year's stock of bait has been the largest in memory. Really big balls of peanut bunker in close to the shore.
September , 2005
This is the best month to fish the Cape. Weather in the high 70's and low 80's. Brewster flats on fire with stripers. Massive balls of bait. Nantucket sound with schools of blues cruising from Hardings beach to the Bass river. Football size Tuna are currently being landed in Cape Cod Bay. Large stripers off Chatham down to tip of Monomoy. Nauset beach to Race point schools of blues. Provincetown herring beach all into the harbor as well.
August 18th, 2005
Here is the reports. Cape Cod Bay in 35 to 50 foot of water jigging with green/black color 3 ounce jigs. Trolling with wine color tubes / worm. Brewster flats holding all stripers. Nauset beach full of bluefish chacing peanut bunker. Nantucket sound from Hardings beach to Yarmouth massive schools of bluefish with false albacore on the outside of these blitz activity throughout the day, predominant 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm. Chatham bouy down to tip of monomoy large keeper stripers in 35 foot of water and football sized bluefin tuna as well. We caught 7 bluefin today Atlantic side off monomoy. Sankaty light between Monomoy full of fish with bonito and stripers and blues. what more can you ask for, and for the next thirty days it is only going to get better.
August 15, 2005
Summer in full swing with bonito, football size tuna, and flase albacore in with the mix of stripers and blues.
August 4, 2005
Chatham inlet reporting large stripers in the 40 inch range. Cape Cod Bay at Billingsgate shoal success on the tube and worm or jigging. Pleasant Bay 25 inch stripers and snapper blues on the incomming tide, but watch out for seal activity. Brewster flats on the low tide.
July22, 2005,
Water started to warm up this week. Bluefish are in and Pelagic species such as tuna and billfish are sporadically landed. The boys from Bowdoin are back!
July 20,2005
Can you see the seal in the photo? This week has been very good fishing. Bigger stripers all over the cape. Bluefish in as well. Tuna are showing up off Chatham in 80 to 120 feet. Since the season started late with the cold weather the water is still cold 62 to 65 degrees.
Come do a kayak trip with us and fish with the seals!!!
July 11, 2005
Barnstable harbor full of fluke, Billingsgate shoals stripers at 27 pound range, snapper blues outside Sesuit Harbor. Water temp in Cape Cod Bay 62 degrees.
July 4 Weekend, 2005
The Holdiay is here and the weather forecast looks great for the whole weekend. Plan your fishing trip around the moving tide either flood or ebb!
June 29, 2005
The water temperature in the Chatham area is still cold. Cloudy today and as the outgoing tide started to move around 10:00 am this morning the action picked up.
June 16, 2005
All in all just a great week for fishing. The weather air temp is in the 60's and the Atlantic Ocean water from Chatham to Nauset is 50 to 55 degrees, in Pleasant bay on the sand flats the water temperatures are warming and tailing bluefish can be sight fished for at this time.
June 14,2005
Brewster flats plenty of stripers cruising in pods and are hitting perfection casts. Bluefish in 5 pound plus range taking small anchovy style baitfish just out of Chatham inlet. Pleasant bay bluefish. Barnstable Harbor full of bass feading on sand eels. Shoals in Cape Cod Bay reporting large stripers. All in all a pretty darn good stretch fish seem to be everywhere.
June 2, 2005
This striper was 36 inches and took squid rigged with fish finder, 16 inch lead 25 lb test. The striper came in on the night incoming tide at one of the south side rivers. The month of June will produce some of the bigger fish of the season. The bluefish are in at The Vineyard and Cotuit.
May 29, 2005
Jebb did a great job today learning how to Salt water fly cast on the Mitchell's river estuary system. Today was mostly sunny with great striper action around the Harding's beach area. Brewster flats is also producing fish today.
May 27, Memorial Day weekend is here, 2005
This striper was taken on a Monomoy flatwing fly in gray/white. The fish was released and was just shy of 30 inches. The striper took me into my backing twice. I was using a temple fork eight weight rod with buckskin floating line. The fish hit the fly on the outgoing tide near the Morris island/harding beach area.
May 27, 2005
This striper was taken on the incoming tide using an olive/white six inch slugo. The jetties were calm with the wind blowing from the north today and making the Nantucket Sound very calm. The air temperature was in the 50's and has turned much better compared to this week's continual Nor'easter. This weekend should be decent fishing as everything settles down. My suggestion is to try and work the incoming tide.
May 26, 2005
The weather has been truly difficult this past 7 days. Strong nor'easter has shut down access to nauset beach.
May 20, 2005
Today cloudy, and that is ok. On the fly rod with small and medium stipers hitting flies. The fish are very agressive today. Olive/white, pink, and white color flies working best.
May 19, 2005
The Nantucket Sound side is still producing lots of stripers. The wind was calm today until midafternoon. The wind picked up slightly. In the photo is a typical Cape Cod scene in the Chatham area. Mid afternoon several stipers landed. Suggestion, try to fish the incoming tide. Stripers like moving water.
May 18, 2005
The smaller stripers are in heavy on the south side. Today I tried a trick. I took my surf rod with me and used a striper swiper small plug making three casts. The first to the right , the second at twelve o'clock down the middle, and and the thrid to the left. Bringing the plug back very quick. Then I grabbed my fly rod eight weight with a pink weighted eye minnow or clouser fly and casted away. It worked like a charm landing 6 very nice stripers on the fly rod. The stripers were landed in very shallow water and it is worth noting that they act very similiar to bone fish in how they will chase the fly for many yards and several times three or four fish battled for the fly.
May 16, 2005
If you are into weather in the 50's with not so much wind and Nantucket Sound free of weeds and did I mention that the jetties from Stage Harbor to Hyannis are full of 22 to 26 inch stripers? As far as it goes it doesn't get any better than this for wade fishing in relation to Cape Cod's south side. So why are you not calling us to do a tour?
May 12, 2005
The wind came from the north today and it was very miserable until about 4:00 pm in the afternoon, and yesterday Boston had prefect weather in the 70's which makes us unhappy on the Cape..jealuous.. on the Cape it was all fog bank. We kept one keeper and in the belly was an eight inch squid. At sunset( 8:00pm) the wind died down and all I saw was sporatic swirls of stripers taking squid on the surface. Perfcet for the fly rod. I landed several stripers at twilight after the crowd had gone home for supper. Pictured is a nice striper landed at 6:45pm on the south side(nantucket sound).
South side jetty action. Pretty interesting night. The squid are in. Calimari 8 inch biggin and the bass have the choice of looking for herring or squid. At sunset tonight the stripers were tailing on the southside for pods of squid. The fish hit all sorts of lures and are feeding up... and they were not so finicky about the lure choice.
May 10, 2005
The weather was high and dry today. South side cruising pods of stripers just off the jetties. Try at high tide. Or cruize the jetty line in a flats style boat as the current changes Ebb or Flood. In the photo below a nice keeper sized fish caught today on the south side(Nantucket sound).
May 9, 2005
This nice sized striper was landed today in the estuary. Slack high tide mark. This week should be decent fishing now that the Nor'easter is gone. Try the inland estuaries if the beaches are too cold. The stiper took a 7 inch silver and black on top medium diver plug.
May 7, 2005
The past three days have brought wicked weather to the Cape & Islands. A strong Nor'easter drove the fishing into oblivion over this weekend. Air temp in the 40's wind gusts up to 50mph. Best bet today is to look for Bill Belamy or Blackbeard treasure on the beach as the sand movement was intense. Conditions will improve this week and the bite should get better each day.
May 4, 2005
The sky was high and dry today with little wind. Perfect day to break out the fly rod. Olive white weighted minnows used at the mouth of a river on the south side at low tide 6 or seven stripers very agressive in the 18 to 22 inch range. Fly rod used was a 9 foot eight weight with intermediate clear line. Line strength 12 pound test.
May 3, 2005
The south side estuaries are seeing the first stripers. The theory is that the stripers are coming into the creeks and rivers to feed up on the migrating herring. Pictured is land captain Michael Mullaney with the first striper of the 05' season. The striper took a 7 inch plastic herring , black on top with pearl body and flex tail. Michael's notes; "Last night I tried fishing one of the rivers at the incoming tide, the wind coming off Nantucket sound was heavy and blowing red weeds into the river mouth. I tried the same river at the outgoing tide between 1:30 in the afternoon and 4:00 on the next day and the water had less debri in it. The weeds were less and the water was at a lower volume with the ebb, the stripers hit the herring pattern and another guy down the stream from me took several small stripers on a fly. The fish ranged from 9 inch little stripers(size of a herring) to about 22 inch stripers were the biggest I caught for the day. I had a 14 inch stiper try to inhale a 7 inch plug. When the the wind is really blowing on the south side try to fish the outgoing tide on these rivers systems. The less volume of water may help the fish to see your plug? The fish seemed to like the fly or the plug moving at a decent rate. The water was slightly tainted due to the high wind conditions. I also noticed sportatic herring tired and wallowing in several slack water areas. I would sort of make the plastic herring jump as it first hit the water on the cast, moving it, sometimes stop it, then move it really fast again. The fish seemed to go after either a fast moving plug or an eratic pluggin motion."
The air temperature hit close to 70's several times this week. Sporatic striper activity. The herring runs are full of migrating fish. Stony Creek reported a decent pod of fish. Water temperature is still slightly cold best bet is to go trout fishing in the various ponds. Selective stripers are being taken at river and ocean connecting spots.


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Nasik is also important mythologically, historically, socially and culturally. Known for the temples on the banks of the Godavari, it has historically been one of the holy sites of the Hindu religion. It is one of the four cities that hosts the massive Sinhastha Kumbh Mela once every twelve years.
Legend dictates that the name "Nasik" is derived from the Hindu epic Ramayana. During the exile of Lord Raam, Shoorpanakha the sister of the demon king Raavan tried to seduce Raam. Angered, Raam ordered Lakshman to cut off Shoorpanakha's nose (nasika/naak). According to the Raamayan, Sita was abducted by Raavan from the area called Panchavati in the Western Ghats. It is a popular religious destination within the city limits, today.
The most important Historical significance is that Kumbh Mela, is conducted at Nashik, every once in twelve years, out of 4 places in India.
The famous Infant Jesus Shrine is located at Nashik Road and hosts an annual Infant Jesus Festival..
The most striking historical structure in Nashik is the Trirashmi Caves also known as the Paandav Caves. These were originally vihaars of Buddhist monks carved in stone in the mountain. There are extensive writings in Brahmi script that show that the township of Nashik supported Bhikkhu Sangha from about a century BC to about sixth century AD. One huge cave is a donation of Gautamiputra Saatkarni, the most famous king of Saatkarni dynasty. Another one is made by a Greek (Yavan) father and son who had apparently become monks.
In the recent past, the Moguls were fascinated by the beauty of the city and renamed it as "Gulshanabad" meaning the city of gardens. Beautiful fresh flowers were sent to Aurangazeb from Gulshanabad i.e. Nashik. But it was during the rule of the Peshwas, when the place was finally renamed as Nashik. During the Peshwas period, Raghobadada and his wife Anandibai settled down at 'Anandwalli' in Nashik. There re some remains of Anandibai's fort. There is also a temple called 'Navasha Ganapati' built by Anandibai. It was during the British rule in April 1818, when Nashik once again regained its importance. The British fell in love with the beauty of the city and developed it in various fields. The Golf course, developed by the British, was one of the largest in Asia. Nashik is surrounded by nine hills, namely: Durga, Ganesh, Chitraghanta, Pandav, DingerAli, Mhasarul, Jogwada, Pathanpura and Konkani. This beautiful city with hills surrounding it has lakes, adding to its beauty.
In 1869 the region came to enjoy unbroken peace. In 1869, Nashik was made a full-fledged district with its present talukas. With the return of peace Nashik flourished into prosperity. Reasons, political, religious, as well as commercial led to its rapid development. With the construction of the railway, going from Bombay to north-east, from very near the city, religious minded devotees came to be attracted to The town in ever increasing numbers where they made their purchases of various artistic & useful articles. This made Nashik a great trade centre where artisans skilled in manufacturing utensils & smiths excelling in workmanship in silver & gold crowded to ply their trade. Already Nashik was a highly flourishing town even under later Maratha rule & some time during that period the sow car families like barves, Vaishampayans & Gadres of the locality started their financial activity. Under Maratha rule they advanced sums to finance military campaigns of feudal Sardars & in their later times their Pedhi?s gradually began to finance the flourishing trade in metalware & fabrics as well as grapes & onions.21st December 1909. Anant Kanhere shot the collector Jackson in Vijayanand theater. The murder of Jackson challenged the British Rule. The people involved in the incidence, Anant LaxmanKanhere, Krishnaji Gopal Karve and Vinayak Ramchandra Deshpande were sentenced to death. It wasduring this time that 'Abhinav Bharat ' was formed. The young Nashikites were influenced by the speech of Lokmanya Tilak given on the 26th of August 1906. Veer Savarkar successfully organised underground movement against the rulers.
The revolutionary activities at Nashik however continued. Although elaborately planned & very cautiously carried out they came to be suddenly interrupted on account of the hot-headed, intemperate & hasty on the part of a group of young men from Aurangabad, who involved some of the weaker members of the Mitra-Mela in their plan. Of these hot-headed persons one Anant Kanhere came to Nashik & on the night of 21st December 1909 suddenly fired at Mr. Jackson, the collector of Nashik when the latter had gone to see a drama 'Sharada' stagd by Kirlosker Natak Mandali in the local Vijayanand theater. The collector died on the spot. This set a whole chain of government inquiry into vigorous activity, the result of which was that all those connected with underground activities in the name of Mitra-Mela, including Savarkar, who at that time had been in India came to be arrested, tried & sentenced to severe punishments. The embers of revolution flared , in those days, into Marathi songs full of patriotic fervour written by various writers, prominent among whom was G.T. Darekar popularly called 'Govind Kavi' whose poems such as 'Who could ever win freedom without fight ?' or addressing his prayer to God Rama & saying 'When, O Rama, wilt thou be pleased to satisfy our burning desire for freedom,
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Modern efforts are on to promote the growth of an export-oriented rose farming and wine industry in the district. Nashik is also deemed "the third most industrialised city of Maharashtra after Mumbai and Pune", mainly due to extensive industrial development in recent times. It is home to an important thermal power plant (Eklahare) and a National Treasury Printing Press (India Security Press at Nashik Road). There are five "Industrial Zones" in the Nashik area and its outskirts (Satpur, Ambad, Sinnar, Igatpuri and Dindori). Nashik has a number of sugar mills. It is also chief exporter of white onion and pomegranates.
Many renowned Indian and MNC firms established themselves in Nashik:
Nashik is also emerging as a BPO/IT destination and is in list of the selected Tier II cities for BPO/IT companies. Recently V-TECH has been completed, companies like Datamatics and WNS have presence in Nashik.
Nasik is now becoming metro in now a days as more and more malls, Multiplexes are coming up in the city. Almost all brand outlets are having places in Nasik. Approximately 4 Multiplexes are coming in the city with SRS Cinema, PVR Multiplex, inox etc.
Nashik is also the educational hub of Northwestern Maharashtra. The Yashawatrao Chavhan Maharashtra Open University (YCMOU) is leading open university located near Gangapur village at west side of Nashik. Many major colleges like K.K.Wagh Institute of Engineering Education & Research, Sir Visvesvaraya Memorial COE Chincholi , Nashik District Maratha Vidya Prasarak Samaj's College of Engineering and MET College of Engineering, MET Polytechnic dot the city. The KTHM College of Architecture is supposed to be one of the best Architectural colleges in Maharashtra. Mahatma Gandhi Vidhyamandir's L.V.H. College, HPT Arts and RYK Science are among the oldest colleges in Nashik. Lately, there have been several new colleges.
Gangapur Road, College Road and Trimbak Road form the lifelines of the suburbs.
For many though, Nasik is just a pit-stop en route to Shirdi or Trimbakeshwar. But if one decides to stop and look around the city and its outskirts, there's plenty to see. The Gangapur Dam is a beautiful site. The Dudhsagar fall near the village of Gangapur is worth a look in the rains. Gangapur village, a few kilometers away is a Stone Age site. On the road to Trimbakeshwar is the state's only Museum of Numismatics (study of coins). Anjaneri Parvat near Trimbakeshwar is well known for waterfalls during monsoon. Pandav Caves the 4th Century BC cave of Buddhist origin, a Bird Santury "Nandur-Madhyameshwar" popularly know as "Bharatpur of Maharashtra" which was started in 1950s is little away from the city, but is a mesmerizing place for nature (bird) lovers.
Apart from the private industry, Nashik was very popular even during the British times. There are numerous structures of the Colonial Days across the city, and there are a lot of Anglo Indians families who have settled in Nashik-Road.
The most famous Government Offices at Nashik.
The Security Printing Press at Nashik Road, The Postal printing Press at Gandhi Nagar, The Artilery Centre.(Asia's largest Military Base), as well as Deolali Contonment. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd., Ojhar. Airforce Station, Ojhar.
Nasik is very famous for its Grapes,Onion and Tomatoes.All of which is grown in huge quantities.The farmers in Nasik however grow many more fruits and vegetables.The Wine culture is growing at an alarming speed both in terms of the growers and for the Wine makers.Nasik was famous for its Table Grapes for a very long time.The Table Grape revolution was started in Ojhar(MIG) a small town near Nasik in early 1925 by Shree Ramrao.Jairamji.Gaikwad,also known to have been the first person to commercially grow Table Grapes in Maharashtra.He is very well known as the Father of Indian Grapes.Since Grape cultivation was spread like forest fire.Shree Ramrao.J.Gaikwad revolutionised not only the Grape growing but also other crop cultivation practices.Today Table Grapes are being exported in great quantities to Europe,Middle East Asia and parts of South East Asia.Table Grapes are also used to make Raisens and Juices.Nasik also exports a reasonable quantity of Onions.Agriculture contributes greatly towards the economy of Nasik
The India Security Press (the National treasury press) was the biggest employer in Nashik for
many decades until the late eighties when a service-based economy started to thrive.
The existence of the India Security Press is very beneficial to Nashik citizens, not only it provided employment to thousands of residents for the past few decades and spawned the surrounding economy but also because it has kept the green canopy in the city protected. It also has an adjoining Gymkhana and a large playground, which is a favorite games/exercise spot for children and adults alike.
In recent days, the government has decided to prepare IT parks in the city of Nasik Road. When these IT parks will be ready, there will be a great boost to Information Technology sector in Nashik. There are many industries like Mahindra and Mahindra an automobile industry,MICO Bosch are located at Satpur.Hindustan Aeronautics Limited is a fighter aircraft manufacturing company at Ojhar(mig) 20 km from Nashik at east side. The V-Tech park is one of the largest IT parks of Maharashtra.
Nashik is one of the fastest developing cities in India, it is supposed to be a metro-in-making. It has been transformed tremendously from being a pilgrimage city to the Wine Capital of India.
There is also Bhosala Military school, N.D.M.V.P.Engineering, Medical colleges & KKW, MET colleges
Some of the famous personalities from Nashik. Kusumagraj or V. V. Shirwadkar who was honoured by one of the highest awards in Indian literature, the "Gyanpeeth" (a.k.a "Dnyaan-peeth") for his overall contribution to Marathi literature. Dadasaheb Phalke - the pioneer of Indian Cinema and of Bollywood who made the first ever Indian movie.Shree RamRao Jairamji Gaikwad also known as the father of Indian grapes. Pandit D. V. Paluskar - noted personality from Indian classical music. Bhagur near Nashik is the birth place of Swatantryaveer Vinayak Damodar Savarkar popularly known as " Veer Savarkar " one of the freedom fighter during Indian freedom struggle.


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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - In the largest single gift ever made to the University of New Mexico by living individuals, Sonnet and Ian McKinnon have committed $7.5 million to three University of New Mexico programs.
Projects at the Anderson School of Management, University Arena ("The Pit") and the UNM Tennis Complex will benefit, and an endowment will be established in honor of former UNM Assistant Tennis Coach Loren Dils and current Tennis Coach Alan Dils.
Announcing the gift today, UNM President David J. Schmidly said, "I couldn't be happier for the Anderson School of Management and the Department of Athletics for securing such an impactful commitment. Sonnet and Ian included both academics and athletics in their gift as they realize that both, working together, make for a stronger institution. The McKinnons obviously know the power of giving back. They are truly Changing Worlds." With the receipt of this gift, the McKinnons have given over $8 million to Changing Worlds: The Campaign for UNM ,* which began in 2006 and will conclude in conjunction with the University's 125th anniversary in 2014.
Explaining their motivation to provide this gift, the McKinnons said, "Although we now live on the East Coast, we will always think of New Mexico as our home. Its natural beauty, food, culture, and, most importantly, its wonderful people, are forever part of us."
They went on to say, "As native New Mexicans, we feel thrilled to partner with UNM, an institution for which we have profound respect and admiration. We have immense confidence in President David Schmidly, Dean Douglas Brown, Vice President for Athletics Paul Krebs, Senior Associate Athletic Director Tim Cass, as well as the many other outstanding members of the UNM administration, to lead UNM to its next phase of excellence."
Their attachment to UNM has grown stronger as they have witnessed its recent achievements, both academic and athletic. "For example, MBA graduates from UNM's Anderson School of Management achieve a 94 percent employment rate within 90 days of graduation; and last year, of 450 student-athletes, over 300 achieved a 3.0 or better GPA, and 20 student-athletes had a 4.0 or better cumulative GPA," say the McKinnons. " UNM is the first minority majority, very-high research flagship university in the U.S. We are inspired by UNM's outstanding students and innovative educators. For example, the Morris & Stewart Udall Foundation has awarded a scholarship to Julian Benavidez , who is from the Pueblo of Isleta and a student in an innovative combined Bachelor and Medical Degree at UNM. He hopes to practice medicine as a pediatrician within the Indian Health Service. And, Dr. Joni Young of the Anderson School was recently awarded the American Accounting Association's 2011 AAA Notable Contributions to Accounting Literature Award, the top annual research award for the entire academic accounting community.** We hope that we're able to play a role in advancing UNM's critical mission to provide outstanding educational opportunities for all New Mexicans, as well as for students from all over the world."
The Anderson School will receive a $5 million lead gift for future facility improvements. Sonnet McKinnon, formerly Sonnet Goodenough, is a 1993 alumna of the Anderson School of Management. Dean Douglas Brown observed, "Sonnet and Ian's gift will enable Anderson to provide New Mexico's students with the resources, technology and facilities they will need to succeed in the future. Their shining example will serve as a beacon to attract support for all facets of the University."
UNM Vice President for Athletics Paul Krebs stated, "I am thrilled with the incredibly generous gift Sonnet and Ian McKinnon have made to benefit both Athletics and the Anderson School of Management, as this symbolizes the important partnership at UNM between academics and athletics. This generous gift from former Albuquerque residents in honor of their families will make a significant difference in the lives and experiences of our student-athletes for generations."
The University Arena will receive $1 million to provide financial support to its recently completed renovation. Coach Steve Alford noted, "We are extremely grateful for the generous and historic gift by the McKinnon Family. The fact that this gift touches both the academic and athletic community sends a wonderful message about the values of the University of New Mexico." Tim Cass, Senior Associate Athletic Director, observed, "The McKinnons and Goodenoughs are two wonderful New Mexico families who care deeply about the state and UNM. This is a proud moment for all of us here at the University, and I believe for Sonnet and Ian."
The UNM Tennis Facility will receive $1.2 million in support from the McKinnon's gift, and $300,000 to establish an endowment for scholarships or internships in honor of brothers Alan and Loren Dils. Loren is a former assistant Tennis Coach who retired as director of the Lobo Tennis Club earlier this year. Alan, currently a coach for the UNM Tennis program, said, "Our entire UNM Men's Tennis Team is so grateful and honored to receive this generous gift from Sonnet and Ian McKinnon. It is humbling to know that they have named an endowment after us."
The McKinnons both grew up in Albuquerque. Ian is a graduate of the Albuquerque Academy and serves on their Board of Trustees. He earned a BA from Occidental College, an MBA from Harvard Business School, and was a finalist for both the Rhodes and Marshall Scholarships. A managing partner of Ziff Brothers Investments (ZBI) in New York City, Ian is the son of Karen McKinnon Stibolt who earned her BA and MA at UNM, and the late Daniel A. McKinnon III, a former New Mexico Supreme Court Justice who received his BS from UNM.
Sonnet, who is the daughter of Kaysie and Don Goodenough, formed a manufacturing company with her father building wine and beer tanks and brewing systems for commercial beer producers worldwide after graduating from UNM Anderson. She and Ian had their first child in 2000, and Sonnet became a stay-at-home mom. She has mentored children who need support to be the first in their families to attend college and was elected to the UNM Foundation Board of Directors in 2006, where she served as National Vice-Chair through the completion of her term in 2010.
The McKinnons' past gifts in support of the University of New Mexico include generous contributions to Lobo Athletics and the McKinnon Fund for Men's Tennis; the Honor Students Travel Fund; the New Mexico Dental Hygiene Education Fund; Presidential Scholarship endowment; and endowment of the Sonnet & Ian McKinnon Distinguished CEO Lecture Series at the Anderson School of Management. In April 2010, Ian delivered the inaugural lecture for the Distinguished CEO series, "Investment Applications of Behavioral Finance: Where Psychology and Economics Meet." The McKinnons and their two children live in Connecticut and are part-time residents of Santa Fe.
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The School was founded in 1947 and now offers more than a dozen concentrations at the BBA and MBA levels and is accredited by the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business in the top 20% of business schools in the nation. The School is funded by the State of New Mexico and further support is generated by The Anderson School of Management Foundation. For more information, the public can visit www.mgt.unm.edu, email email@example.com, or call (505) 277-6471.


text: I know this Impact happenend couple of weeks back but here in the UK I have only just been able to see it and comment on it. On the show their young up and coming GM Hulk Hogan (God i love sarcasm ) announced a main event pitting hardy RVD and Anderson in triple threat match. The winner would go on the face Booby Roode for the Championship at Sacrifice. This match had been hyped all evening and was one to look forward too in my view. I was looking forward to it especially after the let down that was AJ VS Kurt earlier on the show. This is a match that should only be on PPV as both of them are incredble workers and have had epics in the past. The match on Impact was too short and was only used to further the angle with AJ and Christopher Daniels. AJ should have faced someone else not Kurt Angle if all the segment was being used for is enhancing an Angle. So the Main Event comes along and in the blink of an eye its over. The match was, what 5 mins if that. A short match that could have been longer and better. Made worse because the guy that won it RVD was only put in it at last minute because Hogan felt sorry for him because he never got his rematch which people have stopped caring about ages ago. Do anyone else think Hogan and Bischoff and the rest behind the curtain are showing a complete lack of respect for talent by giving them short matches and pointless matches on their tapings. Also anyone want to get things off thier chest about the state of the TNA product feel free.