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Wednesday, May 18, 2011
"Government did us in," says Dwayne Madigan, whose job will terminate when General Electric closes its factory next July.
Madigan makes a product that will soon be illegal to sell in the U.S. – a regular incandescent bulb. Two years ago, his employer, GE, lobbied in favor of the law that will outlaw the bulbs.
Madigan's colleagues, waiting for their evening shift to begin, all know that GE is replacing the incandescents for now with compact fluorescents bulbs, which GE manufactures in China.
Last month, GE announced it will close the Winchester Bulb Plant 80 miles west of D.C. As a result, 200 men and women will lose their jobs. GE is also shuttering incandescent factories in Ohio and Kentucky, axing another 200 jobs.
So, GE gets environmentalist brownie points for selling "clean" light bulbs, and they also get to charge more for their bulbs. But there's another advantage—they save on labor with fluorescents, because they make the fluorescents in China.
Not only are wages lower there, but so are the regulatory burdens, both environmental and labor. The Times of London recently reported, "Large numbers of Chinese workers have been poisoned by mercury, which forms part of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs."
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It seems that GE has joined GM in their anti-American and anti-consumer agenda. So long GE, I was once a loyal customer but then I also used to buy GM cars… no more. I will spend my ever-shrinking dollars with companies that cater to my American values. I'm sure GE and GM will do well in the global market, but at my house they are now persona non grata.
Ditto here.. I had been considering a GM car when all of that went down, but now I'm back to ONLY buying Fords. The same will go for GE. I'll look to other brands which aren't using the government as a law-leveraged marketing department.
Ford is a union company. I WILL NOT buy union.
Get you're head out of you're ass, that's what got us into this mess!
If Obama stays in everything will be Union, However, Remember Judge Roy Moore of Alabama? He believes in the Constitution and the 10 Commandants, he is considering a run for the Presidency. they threw him out of office because he wouldn't get rid of the 10 Commandants. He believes in the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, WHAT A RUN AGAINST OBAMA THAT WOULD BE.
Union-? No Communist
It's public unions not private unions I have a problem with, hence, I will never buy another GM vehicle.
I agree with you Steve that it's good Ford did not take the bailout however, what about Ford's large support of the homosexual agenda? Ford is doing the right thing on one hand and undermining traditional family values with the other. I own a Ford but will not buy another until they become neutral in the culture war.
So then, who will you buy your cars from? Look and see who the FORD foundation supports. It will blow your mind. Who does that leave? Chrysler junk? Owned by the govt and FIAT?
Might as well buy GM and their stock, they make the best cars on the road.
Buy Toyota.
Yes go ahead and send any corporate profit overseas. Buy a FORD instead. That is the biggest reason we are in this fix.
Ford's Mustang is made with almost 90% of the parts made outside the US. Toyota's made in Tennessee are about 40% parts made outside the US. Which is more foreign?
I understand about the corporate profits going back to Japan but, that horse got out of the barn in the early 70's when the big 3 started making mediocre cars. They did it to themselves. Only when competition came in did the big 3 quality improve. Can you say capitalism?
or Nissan
You're the reason this country fell from grace, buy foreign you dumb shit!
I've owned Chevy's before and my Mercury Grand Marquis is by far much better than any Chevy I have ever owned.
Agreed! I also own a Grand Marquis. Very happy with it, except for the high cost of gas. Not sure what will be my next vehicle, I just know it will not be GM.
I own an American-made car, a Toyota made in the South. No problems, good gas mileage, easy upkeep. I stopped buying the supposed "American 3 big car producers" many years ago as they are poorly made (look at all the recalls last year and this!), and their upkeep in garage for repairs and low gas mileage, etc. GE started making all their products badly several years ago and I stopped buying the brand which also cost more than others. I will NOT buy mercury-diffusing light?? bulbs because they give off little light and lots of mercury and we have enough crazy people in this country as it is.
Not only are they dangerous to humans if they get broken, but there have been several homes burned that started in the light bulbs.
Eh? You expect the gvt to care about the safety of the citizens? LOLOLOLOLOL … even as one of the FEW mandates of the gvt is to see to the safety of the citizens.
Gvt has their sticky fingers in our lives on a monumental level, but the hypocrisy is stunning.
Once again the the environmentalist succeed in destroying American jobs and shipping them overseas and we continue to allow them to do it. Should it really be any surprise with the Leftist leaning of the "alleged" news network that they own. I agree that we should support anyone but socialist organizations like GE.
Why are we not asking Rep. Fred Upton of Mi. how much GE and Sylvania lobbied him to sponson the bill banning the incandescent bulbs. What a boob or is that a bulb?
So all you people who voted for the HOPE and CHANGE now you are getting it all. I bet your parents are proud of you!
I was also a GM customer for years. We have 2 new Toyota made in Kentucky
Yes, your Toyota may be made in Kentucky, but
it is still a foriegn car because all of the profits go back to JAPAN.
The profits may go back to japan but the jobs are here.
Yep, now we're all hoping for some change. And as far as GE is concerned, don't for get this is the company that didn't pay ANYTHING in taxes last year and had a huge profit.
The GE CEO is a no-good-nick with Obama being his pal and buddy. He was an Obama backer when BO ran for the Senate. I agree. I will not buy a GM auto again until the unions no lobger own 18% of the company, and the government is clearly out of the GM picture. Ford Company looks better to me every day.
Why buy a GE Refrigertor. I paid $8000.00 for their professional size. One year later computer died and was outdated already. Cost 900.00 to fix… Yeap out of warranty!
Both GE & GM have been banned from my household. GE for several years and GM since the bailout.
You have got to be kidding. You would rather keep China employed over Americans working for GE in America? Do you also understand the contamination problem of the fluorescent bulbs? Your liberal thoughts go beyond reasoning and will ultimately destroy this economy and the U.S.A. Are you Muslim too?
Right, just walk away take care of your self but this is last stand for free poeple we must fight let them hear us because they will come looking for you then they have got it all with the UN.
Goodbye America. she is no longer.
RIP I say. I don't see an election in 2012. Only a transfer from POTUS to KING Obama… World leader in the making.. Devil himself..
Gee, I always thought that Satan would show up as a woman.. Well, he almost did anyway with the Pansy of the United States occupying the Oval Office..
No one is doing anything about this accept talk on the internet, which we will not have the right to speak our mind much longer.
Goodbye to these great United States of America….
Now I will think about moving to another country no matter how bad it is, it will be better than BOMERICA
Right on Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!! People need to speak out and let their voices be heard, i. e, the Tea Party folks sure did and a lot of politicians heard them loud and clear.
GE joined the anti-American movement a long time ago. They have a solar panel / wind turbine factory all set to go in China for when cap and trade goes through; they own NBC/MSNBC/Bravo/History Channel, which channels (NNBC/MSNBC) were the strongest supporters of BHO in 2008, will be again, and they are in bed with him for the Chicago climate exchange and implementation of cap and trade.
Hell yeah!! Ya know, I bought a mop and bucket at … home depot, and made sure it was made in the USA. Cost a little more, but I bought it. I also needed a furniture dolly. I mulled over the plastic ones until I found a good, Made-in-the-USA one made of wood and covered with carpet, with good casters. That was in '05, and I still have them and they work just fine and are in one piece. I drive toyota and can still find the incandescent bulbs. Think the stuck accellerator in the toyota was done by SEIU people to boost GM sales.
Can you say SOLDOUT????obama and reid and pelosi and the democrats have sold us out so anyone who even thinks of voting obama or anyother democrat into office in 2012 should be hung for Treason. America,wake up ro drown.Its our choice.
its time to Quit buying anything GE.
They hurt us, we hurt them back!
We need to get our states to pass nullification laws. Then your state could make its own light bulbs and sell them IN STATE & the Feds couldn't do anything about it.
A nullification law sets up commissions to review all Fed laws & regulations, Past, Present, & Future to see if they are Constitutional and if they are not the state rejects them.
We are 50 sovereign, free states under GOD & the Constitution. Not 50 slave states under george soros, obama, his czars & the UN.
You want prices you can live with? You want to keep your religion, keep your rights , refuse obama care? keep your guns, keep Sharai law out of your courts & the UN out of our schools & government?
Then you need to get busy. Start emailing your governors & state legislatures, write letters, make phone calls. I don't think we have until 2012.
And least we forget obama appointed the head of the Fed. dept. that is supposed to oversee voting. In an interview he was asked what he would do to get rid of voter fraud and voter intimidation at the polls and he said that was laws he would not be enforcing.
We are at the least going to need cops at the polls to protect us when we go to vote. Who would ever have thought that in this country.
So get bust, for Gods sake , We need this law for every state. Don't stop. You know they won't stop.
And the bad part is my local county has NO PLANS for a collection point for these mercury containing bulbs when they go bad and need to be thrown out. Believe me, I've tried. That is PORTAGE COUNTY in OHIO. I personally tried to take two burnt out bulbs down to our country recycling center. They told me that they do not take them. The next time I'm going to take them to our Country Commissioner's office and just leave them there and tell them to contact the Federal government and ask THEM what to do with them. How much you want to bet I get in trouble?
send them to the government to recycle
Don't send them to congress we have too many dim bulbs there now. Send them to the White/black House he knows every thing else let him figure out how to get rid of them.
Isn't it funny how after the government got 61% of GE (who pays no taxes) obama gave them was it 80 million or 80 billion?
You shouldn't get in trouble because they work for us! Or did they forget?
If you do buy this crap, and when they burn out, just pack them all up and send to GE to dispose of…..or send them to you congress/senator/or the EPA.
I have never and will never buy one of these things. I would rather use candles. Heck, I am thinking of learning how to make candles!!
It is against *The Law* now to merely & simply throw away those burned out bulbs….you know, the ones that were supposed to last 5 Years & save the environment et al???.
Yeah, the ones that don't even make it a YEAR because of the CHEAP manufacturing Standards that allow Crap to be "Passed" in China & then imported to the USA simply to Poison us in preparation for the invasion??.
Death by a gajillion paper-cuts of CFL's
The Universal Waste Rule (UWR) addresses spent fluorescent and high intensity discharge lamps. In 1999 in an effort to encourage spent lamp recycling, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) added spent hazardous-waste lamps to the existing list of universal wastes that are regulated under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA).
The intended result of this action was to reduce the regulatory burden on the collection, storing, and transporting of spent mercury containing lamps that had been classified as hazardous waste. This ruling in no way exempts "generators" of said waste from complying with local, state and federal laws regarding proper disposal.
It is now against the law in many states to throw away any light bulb that contains mercury, even bulbs that pass EPA standards and are TCLP Compliant, or low-mercury. As of February 9, 2006 even households in California* are banned from discarding these bulbs in the trash. Other states are contemplating or have adopted equally restrictive laws as well. *Title 22, division 4.5 chapter 11, section 66261.50
A Very Good Read on the subject:- http://www.akdart.com/cfl.html
Where is Congress on this? Why don't they reverse this ban? Global warming is such a fraud.
Call your congressman and ask how and where they dispose of their CFLs. I can tell you that at least the House of Reps buildings are FULL of them, and I have no idea where they take them to politically correctly dispose of this mercury..
As the late, great, George Carlin stated, "our government is run by a couple hundred corporations", +/-.
Yep, you waste your time and effort to write, call, petition your representation,
and GE sends in million dollar lobbyists- Guess who wins???? When in history can you recall government doing something in favor of what the public wanted???
I admit, there are people that are elected to better life for there constituents, but within six months in office, they are as bought and paid for as the rest- A prime example would be the November elections, what's changed for the better????
I hate to say it, but our lives as a free people are history- Since the sixties, I've watched our country go straight to hell~
They were forced to repeal prohibition, but then most of congress drank like fish.
Now they do drugs and have prostitutes, or they just bend over a page–
Cap and trade is laughable. If you look up AlGor in the dictionary, what do you get? The fear of a chill.
Al Gore didn't start pushing global warming until he and a bunch of his friends bought up as many of the pattens for green gadgets they could even obamas step mother or was it his mom, I hear is in that group. They are all making money hand over fist.
And I recently read an article in which a consumer reported a broken flourescent bulb of the type GE is hyping. Her bill for the "environmentally correct cleanup" was in excess of $2,000.00 when all was said and done, just to clean up after the breakage of just one bulb in one of her children's bedrooms. THANKS, GE!
Welcome to the "Communist Party,U.S.A……
So now GE can charge higher prices and get higher margins at the expense of some American jobs. That just fits with ol' retired Jack Welsh's business philosophy doesn't it? I started souring on them when he started screwing America way back when – and then exported his brand of business destruction when one of his proteges went to AlliedSignal and decimated the ranks there.
I was listening ot Glen Beck last night and he was saying that the new bulbs would cost around50.00 so we had better stock up on all we can get now. good bye GE in my house hold. And they still won't pay taxes on all of there profits .Send them to China and leave them there
Not to worry, when you need to get rid of the bulbs, put them in the trash cans of all gov. bldgs !carry them in a bag and let the city, state and fed gov. dispose of them….oxnin
Try them both for TREASON.
How long before the government starts conducting warrentless searches of our homes so they can fine us for not using their stupid "green" bulbs?
GEICO is General Electric Insuranc Co. If I had it I would drop it, but not for Progressive. Their CEO supports "O" and all of his Socialist/communist ways.
my knowledge of GEICO is that it is for government emplouyyes insurance co.
you are correct about "progressive" the owner there contributes millions each year to the communist party "ACLU"
I agree on the ge bulb.
but if you will look back, when Ross PEROT
was running for president, thanks to BILL CLINTON's NAFTA program, PEROT said that "we-the -people" will hear that "sucking sound"
thanks to ALL the LIBERALS that do not want to serve your country and wants socialism
you have it! I hold every dam liberal accountable for the destruction of AMERICA.
GEICO stands for Government Employees Insurance Company, and you can look that up. I've been a satisfied GEICO customer since 1970. It has no connection to GE.
Just remember the next time you get a ticket for speeding in a small rural community, the ray gun was probably donated or paid for by GEICO- They've been doing this for quite some time under the auspices of helping the community. However, have you been issued a speeding ticket by some lowlife hiding in the bushes and your insured with GEICO, you will more than appreciate by your premium increase why the are so generous with the tax right-off donation-
It's not only the greed of GEICO, but it's your license and your DMV record that is jeopardized by these CROOKS- If it employs the word GOVERNMENT, you should be well aware you're going to loose–
GEICO policy increases for speeding are the highest among all insurance providers~
I always get a kick out of the Geico gecko, but suddenly he doesn't seem so cute anymore-leave it to the socialists to use a cute little lizard to mess with my mind! I knew Progressive owners were Socialist/Communist.
As farmers,we have had all of our insurance through Farm Bureau for 40 some years, get excellent coverage at a great price-so far…
We also drive only Ford products now-and love them!
These fluorescent bulbs will be discarded as any other bulb, unfortunately. If there is no site to properly handle the toxic mercury that they contain, people will discard them as they see fit, and the land will be polluted, creating a bigger problem They don't save energy because the only reason they last longer is that they have to stay on all the time, in order for them to last 5-10 years, and they are hazardous to the envioronment if disposed improperly, which will be the case 99% of the time.
I have had them for quite some time and they do not last as long as they claim. Leave them on and have to replace them after about a year.
Let's send our union 'big bosses' to china to lobby for workers rights. That way they can be arrested and join the other dissidents in China's prison system.
That's one way to clean up corruption in OUR country…
Glenn Beck said on his show last night that the new light bulbs will be 50 dollars each and we should stock up on the regular old light bulbs. This takes effect as of Jan 1st and the old light bulbs will be outlawed…What is this country coming to.
Having worked as an election official for years, did you think and inform yourself before voting for the idiots in office at state and fed levels? Most voters do not! and then complain about the state of what we are in. Things are as they are because of us and the people we elected. Nothing more, nothing less.
I also work as an election official in a Midwestern town. I definitely feel it is a community where people are very conscious about political issues, who stands for what, and how to vote wisely. That is not my concern. My concern is what we will be facing with the VOTER FRAUD that will take place (with Obama's people orchestrating it)
when the next election comes around!
As for me and my family I will buy candles before I support GE. GE you want to be part of the communist party, I will be a huge part in telling people you buy GE products you are supporting the socialist communists in office.
The only way we can beat the comunist in our government is to vote and pray.
Well, we could try shooting them….OXNIN
you can cut them off at the knees if you push for your state to pass nullification laws!
Has anyone else noted that foreign companies are buying up our highway construction and maintenance companies?
It is already a very lucrative business so how's that going to work out for us when they are the only game in town. No matter how bad things get, the roads must be kept up with OUR TAX DOLLARS.
did you know that a Muslim company is the major , if not out right owner of one of the big network (TV).
I went to the store this morning and bought 12
incandescent 100W bulbs, all made in mexico, which is OK, All GE bulbs Fluorescent are made in China..Watch your labels I don't buy anything made in china any longer. Stand Up My Friends
be careful on buying some brands of lightbulbs. i dont remember the ones but a bunch of the new lightbulbs were exploding when in use. so u may want to google it to make sure yours are ok.
if the illegals start running light bulbs they will have a lot of us helping them.
Try to stock up NOW w/ incandescent bulbs while you still can and hopefully someone will make and bootleg them in the future.
we have the government we deserve, if people would wake up and dethrone these masters of the universe we could be spared a lot of these hardships.
State nullification laws people.
I have only bought GM vehicles, and still have them,will never purchase another!! also we are filling our cupboards with off-brand bulbs made in the USA,You are correct, when the government tells us what to buy,eat,wear,drive,live in,maybe America will WAKE_UP!!!!!!!
South Carolina has plans to produce the incandescents bulbs here. They can't sell them out of state, however, that would not stop you from coming to SC to buy them and take them home with you.
…until they place guards at the border of SC to go through your vehicle!
Look at what they did to the Armish Farmer. Somehow his milk strayed over state lines. The news mentioned it had taken about a year to set up the sting, and under-cover agents were used for survelliance. Can you imagine one of them transported the un-sasturized milk across the state lines? Looks plausible to me!!! What a FDA scam!
The FDA can and has many times been bought.
Now what do we do with lighting fixtures with dimmers and 3 way switches.
Thanks to Government Electric.
We need to call our representives to see about overturning this baseless mandate for green light bulbs.
I'm am doing it today…Its so easy now to email them now.
Did that already this morning.
What is wrong with all these Companies who are supposed to be helping the American people. I have never seen the country sliding down hill so fast into Socialistic measures and we the People are not getting a say in anything. We are getting so loaded with Made in China, supplies that DO NOT last and our money spent on "INFERIOR" products. Wake up America–But its getting harder to find a label that says Made in the USA. SAD. so much GREED involved for themselves, Companies are
selling us down the drain,with Government help.
One of the only reasons business's are farming everything out of the country is labor cost! Who controls the cost of labor? The accursed UNIONS!!! If some of you liberals, especially in Wisconsin would wake up and smell the coffee you would see this. You people are so interested in the here and now you forget about the sweet bye and bye! If we don't come together on this sort of thing in our next Presidential election and have another four years of what we're seeing now we'll all be looking for a shelter under a bridge. I hope all you liberals are enjoying the "CHANGE".
It is not non-union labor cost that is sending jobs overseas. It is the confiscatory tax system and governmental red tape and regulations. Labor costs is one of the liberal excuses to shift the blame from government to the private sector (remember who controls the media). Companies do not mind mind paying for higher wages because the American worker still out produces any other worker in the world. The American worker is a good investment. Again gov't regs, red tape and taxes are the problem.
Everyone in these replies or comments have someone else to blame- Be honest with yourself and look around your environment, and tell me what you see- Greed, greed, and more greed- The jap's didn't do it, the chink's didn't do it, or any other country you wish to pass blame towards-
No one came here to take our manufacturing facilities away from our country- WE THE PEOPLE caused our jobs to leave, to go to another country- I worked for Government Motors and the union wages as opposed to the non union wages and amenities were staggering- What amazed me was the parking lot was primarily foreign made vehicles, including motorcycles (harley is union, of course).
Like it or not, be honest and admit, we caused our own demise!!!!!!!!!!!
A company cannot sustain a profit, if it's production costs surpass the sales cost to the non union average American or illegal-
I expect many negatives due to the dummying down of our country!!!!!!!!
I believe this is the same GE that paid no taxes for last year. It sure pays to be in bed with the socialists in this country lately.
Buy Honda and not GM or GE. Humm, Government Electronics? Besides, we don't want the excess profits going to those "mean rich guys", do we? KTALGSTO.
Where has the outrage, investigations gone with the report of GE not paying any taxes, getting tax breaks due to these CFLs??? They rake the oil company execs over the coals and demand "shared sacrifice" but no one is screaming about GE?????
The comment one oil exec made to Rockefeller (communist pig) about we should be more into shared profitability and progress would be preferable to sacrifice to the American people………..priceless!!
They will soon have this country on it's knees if it's not already there. 4 more years of the incompetent idiot in White House we will be just another run-of-mill country. It's sad to see this great nation of ours being tore down with the help of the big corporations and liberal main stream media.
I like U. I think the same way. I do NOT like OBUMA….He is ruining this country…along with all the other Liberal Socialists.
The rest of the world is cheering to watch us fall . They are not stopping to think what is going to happen the next time they need help and the US won't be able to help.
In case you are interested,they make your answering machines fail (mine did until I replaced my light bulbs with the old variety) Plus they messed up my computer so bad I had to have it brain washed. They are H— on most electronics that are in close range of their radiation.
How the hell can you call it a clean light bulb when it has poisonous mercury in them.
We have nothing but over-educated idiots running our country. We are doomed.
To hell with GE and their poison Chinese light bulbs! GE has been in the hip pocket of the Obammunists from Day 1. We refuse to buy any GE products, and we have been stockpiling incandescent light bulbs for some time now, and buy more every payday. The day will soon come when you will see them for sale on ebay at scalper prices, just like Polaroid film.
everyone needs to read "Behold a Pale Horse" by
Cooper…….it will explain everyhing…..
major eye opener….this was written years
ago and the author was in fear for his life for the writing.
Who will have money left to pay taxes? Oh…I forgot, if you have a job, they get it first, then they screw you out of the rest with high gas,high food, high heat, water, eletricity, and medicines if you should need that. The new warrantless privileges they now have over you…perhaps that is just a way to come into your abode to find out if you have anything left!!
Madigan said "government did us in" but he can't give GE a pass. They lobbied in favor of outlawing incandescent bulbs so they're a partner to all of it. GE isn't for their workers, they're in bed with Obama. I don't buy anything made by GE or GM anymore. Never had Progressive insurance either and never will. Any company that has CEO's who only want to pad their own pockets and cozy with Obama doesn't get my business. As far as those $50 light bulbs, I'll sit in the dark before I'd buy one.
GE and other light bulb manufacturers have indeed pushed for and welcomed this ban on cheap unprofitable light bulbs
(http://ceolas.net/#li12ax with documentation and copies of official communications).
The ban on the popular simple cheap safe types of incandescents surely makes no sense, from any perspective…
not just re freedom of choice,
not just re usage safety,
not just re there not being an electricity shortage for paying customers (and even less of an electricity shortage in the future, with all the renewable and low emission alternatives)
– but also the overall society energy savings are small, less than 1%, as from US Dept of Energy own figures (http://ceolas.net/#li171x)
The current government could give a s_ _ t about the USA or the US Worker. Wake up people this guy wants everyone beholding to him for everything. His Messiah complex just like Mousolini does not want us to suceed at anything. The GE light bulb fiasco should show everyone how screwed up his thinking is, after all a "Harvard Scholar" know all. What a crock of S__T!
I'd like to take a 4′ florescent light bulb and shove it where the sun don't shine and see if Obummer can finally see the light and see that he needs to get his sorry ass out of the
White House.
Obuma needs to GO….as fast as we can vote him out.
Push to impeach him now. He has broaken every part of his oath of office and defied the Supreme court & congress. refusing to obey laws or only obeying the parts he wanted to and told them flat out in so many words to F… off. and when he couldn't manage it he had his czars regulate what he wanted. All this is grounds for impeachment.
And no corporate taxes! How much more of this corruption in Washington do we have to take! It's time for a CHANGE!!!
trump was right. tax china 25% on everything. obama needs a job program. this isnt it
Remember Kathy from 'Regis and Kathy Lee' was hounded because her line of clothing was made in sweat shops. Everything you buy that is not made in the USA is made in a sweatshop. I saw a show on TV that said the people of Chine, where most of the products the average American can afford, make about 8 dollars a day, live at the factory they work in four to a cubical and get to go home two weeks a year. Sounds like prison to me.
I saw an atricle recentlyl where the people of CHina are getting ready to demand more wages. They already are starting to live better than us. When they demand higher wages…we are sunk.
sick and tired,
We'll be doing the same here in the not to distant future–
It's an outrage that the kook fringe Environmentalists have all the power to decide for us by "demanding" that we can ONLY have those dangerous and stupid light bulbs. Where is GE on this matter? Why can't we be able to have a choice of bulbs?….ugh..I've be stocking up on the safe incandescent bulbs
Ginny: "Why can we have a choice of light bulbs"? Because we live in a soft dictatorship where our rights are being taken away.
I agree that the green law outlawing the purchase of incandescent bulbs is socialistic green nonsense. Immelt is Obama's buddy and we are making him and GE gobs of money on this and other green initiatives and they should be boycotted. They are called green initiatives because they make lots of "green" for Obama and his buddies. However, please remember that it was George Bush who actually signed the law banning incandescent bulbs.
Jim: Bush was a RINO who went-along with the liberals.
G.E. has planned their whole business direction towards Obama"s plans. Ramping up Medical record keeping, "green" products (light bulbs & solar) , wind power, AND even establishing G E Capital's status as a BANK so they could get a Bailout BECAUSE they got in trouble on exporting CDO's in Europe. Immell (CEO) is totally about $$$$ and has no direction or loyalty to the American public that made his the company he leads. His invitations to the White House are evidence of where his loyaty lies. I agree this company NEEDS a boycot…only thing that he'll understand !
They already got a bail out. obama gave them 80 million or was it billion when he got 61% of GE.
In the not so near future, I fear a lot of Americans are going to have to turn to the Amish for tips on how to survive!
Chet: The Amish are in the government's crosshairs now for producing non-pasteirized milk and selling it across state lines. Does the government have nothing more important to attend-to?
Lets work hard to elect the politicians that do what they say and what we want them to do. Cont. to support the tea party and groups like Americans for Prosperity and Heritage. They are having a big impact.
You want to have a real impact then get your state to pass a nullification law. Then the state would be able to cut off a lot of Fed laws & regulations.
I have a GM and a Ford before all this crap started. MY trucks tranmission went out with only a little over 70,000 miles only to find out on the internet GM has known about the problem with this transmission but will not do a thing about it. So I was angry about the bailout. Ford will never get me back even though I have a found fetish for Stangs. All because they are still Union and other things I have found out. My next car or truck will be a car actually made here (BMW SUV).
I was once a GE and a GM consumer but not any longer. Our family and friends as well as relatives have all said the same thing. Perhaps GEand GM can make there products just for the Socialist here in the USA as well as in Europe and other places. Gone
The corruption in the Democrat Party is astonishing! Isn't it convenient that GE is in bed with the Dems and the corporation paid no taxes in the U.S. last year! Now the Dems are throwing GE another big bone by requiring the People to switch to these phony light bulbs. It's outrageous.
I Banned GE years ago I was reading we have Bulbs that use 10th of the energy of a regular bulb they are L.E.D and yes they are expensive I pd 45.00 per bulb But I did this B Cuz I built a home and went Solar I am off the Grid so I need to acct for my energey these bulbs are Great on my meter one light didn't register but when I turned 5 on over the bar it did but barely so they do work but China has dumped millions of these Poision Bulbs on us with Government and GE blessing GE is a Dirty corrupt Corp don't by anything the LED bulbs I purchased were Philips cheaper then the GE one. You need to check for Brightness but they are great for me so I know they will be easy on you energey bill. Yes I Have everything all of you have with solar just had to say good by to 50inch TV so now all I have
is a GAS Bill.I am telling you this B Cuz don't by if you can bulbs from china.
Carol, congratulations on getting off the grid, I'd like to know how you did it. Need help on getting off the grid.
PEOPLE, PEOPLE, LISTEN TO ME !!!!! FOR OUR OWN GOOD , DON'T BUY ANYTHING MADE OUT OF THE STATES IF YOU can PREVENT IT !!!!!! WE ARE DOOMED IF WE DO !!!!
All cell phones are made in china, i beleieve!
For years (back in the fifties and sixties I bought strictly GE products. The quality of their washers etc. went way down, also durability so I have switched to Whirlpool. I used to buy GM products most of the time, I finally quit after getting raped by their service departments. I advise my extended family to boycott GM and presently drive a 2006 Honda and will continue using Honda, better everything. Made in U.S. also. I hate the new lightbulbs, have bough a case of the old ones and plan to buy another case. Our do-nothing Congress could care less about us.
Lamar congress does do something, they screw us everyway they can as long as their back door money making schemes continue to make them millions. Your right when you say they don't care about us, they care about OUR money.
Actually, all our appliances are made in China and only made to last about 10 years. Shameful.
Don't break one of those new bulbs. You must call a Bio Hazard company to clean up the mercury of a broken bulb. This has said to cost up to $2,000. Entire house, furniture, walls, ductwork, everything will be in the" hazard" area.
If one just dies out. You must package it and TAKE it to a proper disposal place..
Nice work Washington. Replace the entire corrupt congress in 2012. All are from the same POT.
Amen – don't buy them – there are a really bad hazard to our health. Me, I am in the process of stockpiling the regular bulbs in all sizes. I think personally IT IS WRONG for our "government" to tell me what kind of light bulbs I can/cannot use in my home that I paid for, plus paying the taxes on my property,etc. THIS CRAP OF TELLING US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN OUR OWN HOME IS FOR THE BIRDS. I don't like them, China, president, congress or any so called government official that is "serving us – the people". They don't know what service truly means. They are all out for themselves to the H— with "we the people".
Congress didn't do this, EPA is the responsible one.Get your facts straight before you make a ststement.
Congress can reverse this if they will quit sitting on their thumbs.
This will take some work, because they apparently have some very long thumbs.
No actually its time for you to get your facts straight. Congress is allowing the EPA THE POWER far beyond what was ever intended!
Just sent the old bulbs to congress. Let them do the disposal.
Bill the government for the cost to clean up.
This is an urban legend, about having to call a bio-hazard company. There are specific steps to be taken if a bulb should break,but they are enough to make any reasonable person reluctant to have them around. I use incandescent bulbs, and intend to continue to do so. What will they legislate next? The kind of toilet paper we use? Humbug!
Thanks Jaybee for making mention of that. Man the whole thing really and truly sucks.
What people might not know about GE is that almost every appliance regardless of brand name has GE parts in them. Refridgerators, freezers, washers, dryers, dishwashers, air conditioners, central air units, etc. They sold parts to Ammana, Whirlpool, Maytag, Fedders, Hotpoint, Frigidaire, Westinghouse, you name it. So no matter what you buy Ge has their hand in it somehow. These parts were made in the US, then they found cheaper labor in Singapore, which later moved everything to Maylaysia which was cheaper yet. The overflow Maylaysia could not produce was manufactured in Mexico. Jeff Imelt Was handpicked and primed by Jack Welch for his replacement when he retired, but I don't think Jack even knew the devistation Imelt was capable of just a few years later. Once one of the most respected companies for over 100 years, Now just another Obama takeover with Imelt his puppet on a string.
Got 12 cases of 100 watt already, should last until I appear at the pearly gates !!
Also working on getting off the grid completly by end of this summer !!!
honda is made in us but the company that ends up with the profits is in china dip stick! buy from american companies and help someone here get a desk job too. who knows it may be you're children one day who needs it.
honda is not MADE IN USA- your the dip stick-honda is ASSEMBLED in USA by NON UNION LABOR-Try puttin your brain in gear before you run your mouth, dipshit~
Ditto But doesn't it make you feel terrible to think we pay for this government to screw us like a lightbulb. Getting really tired of this behavior.
I don't buy jack squat from ge or gm the anti America pieces of scum. When we let some socialist scum tell us what kind of bulb we have to buy it's unconstitutional.
I do my best to buy American made products and food as well.
I wish al gore and his green party would take those dangerous light bulbs and stick them up their obama.
Very well put Thomas
Our apartment complex quit recycling 2 years ago, no longer cost effective. A fluorescent bulb goes out, it goes in roll-off dumpster in the middle of the complex. Pablo comes out first thing in the morning, and hits the crusher to make room for the next day's "offerings".
No muss, no fuss.
Now he crushes the mercury out of hte bulb and what does this do to the environment?
Americans did you know it will cost $50.00 DOLLARS FOR ONE LIGHT BULB THIS GOVERNMENT WANT US TO HAVE. I SAY GO TO HELLLLLL, I WILL USE WHAT I WANT,TO LIGHT MY HOUSE. SO AMERICANS BETTER START TO STOCK UP ON LIGHT BULDS WE ALL READY USE, I HAVE MY PUT AWAY. WILL WE NOW HAVE THE LIGHT BULD POLICE?????? I TELL YOU THEY CAN KISS MY BUTT. ALL THIS GLOBAL CRAP IS JUST THAT CRAP, MORE WAYS TO STEAL OUR MONEY ON LIES. IS THIS AMERICA OR NOT,WE ARE FREE PEOPLE,I WANT THIS CORUPT GOVERNMENT TO STAY THE HELLL OUT OF MY LIFE!!!! THEY HAVE NEVER GIVING ME ANY THING ,I HAD TO WORK FOR WHAT I HAVE,HAD TO WORK, NOW THERE ARE NOOOOOOO JOBS, WHAT DO I DO GO ON WELFARE, A LIGHT SHADE PERSON, I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR, JUST DIFFERENT SHADES. SO SICK OF BLACK AND WHITE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOME ONE PERSON WHITE AS SNOW OR ONE PERSON BLACK AS COAL,WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT SHADES OF COLOR. I'M SICK OF THE DEMOCRAPS PLAYING THE RACE CARD EVERY CHANCE THEY CAN, WAKE UP AMERICANS ,THE DEMOCRAPS WANT TO PUT AS THEY SAY( BLACKS AGAINST WHITES) WE THE PEOPLE OF ALL SHADES MUST OUT A END TO THIS CRAP NOW!!!!!!!
And, how is this news? All Immelt has done as Chairman of GE is stay close to Obaha, and embarass Jack Welch, as well as infuriate GE retireees.
I am amazed at how little this President cares about what the people think and feel. There is no joy is this administration at all just sheer uncaringness
Dispose of what? That crap will not find its way into my house. Ever!
Hi TexasMom. Even though I agree with you completely, but has your electic meter been changed lately? Mine has and i was told it was so they could monitor what bulbs you are using without getting in to your home. Then they will get a court order (unless Obama says no need for one) and come into your house and FINE you for every bulb and confiscate them. Many fixtures will also have to be changed to accommodate these "poison" mercury bulbs.
obummers freedom stops where my nose begins. I want to see him or any of his henchmen try to come through my front door unwanted. They WILL be on their way to a meeting with Saint Peter, or more appropriately, SATIN ! ! ! And thats the truth.
Bob can you show me where it says that they are changing meters and will be able to do this. If someone knows about this why don't they contact their senator and demand that they do something about it. That is unreasonable search and seizure.
the local power company will do that for them. they are changing to smart meters that can be read remotely.
I know that here in FL, Florida Power and Light is changing over to 'smart meters' statewide.
They will allow constant monitoring of your electric usage. You willbe able to go online (supposedly) and check how much that 20 min shower your teenager just took added to your bill. It is supposed to help you monitor your consumption and use less electricity.
But if that info is online, who else is tracking it? They may not know you are using the wrong bulbs, but they will know if you are using more than they think you should be.
This is the first step towards gov't control of electricity. Don't forget, they were talking a couple of years ago about putting 'smart thermostats' in homes, so the gov't and/or power company can regulate what you set your a/c at, and what hours you can use it.
Think this was all pie-in-the-sky? Think again.
All the American car makers use part from companies like DANA, and yes DANA is American Made, but they get there material to make there parts for the American Car Companies from over seas. You just can't when..!!!
How does GE get "environmental brownie points" for CFL bulbs that contain mercury, when the story states large numbers of Chinese have already been poisoned by mercury. The government is forcing consumers to use toxic material in our homes, with our children and pets to save a few kilowatts a year. This is insanity. Are they going to wait ten years and then discover all the birth defects and mercury poison from these bulbs being used and broken in normal use? What about the medical costs of introducing mercury poison in our families, or is this only about GE profit, moving jobs out of the US to China, lobbyists paying congressmen, and business as usual. American buyers should start boycotting Chinese goods. Stock up now on fluorescent bulbs.
I believe you meant stock up on incandescent bulbs.
Since these bulbs contain mercury, they are "hazardous" material, and one cannot dispose of them in their garbage. I read where one woman broke one in her childs bedroom and Hazmet had to come out to remove it. Told her it would (and did) cost $250.00 to do so! Just how are we to dispose of them?? Just think of the mercury that's going into our garbage dumps and has been for the last 10+ years, because we didn't know this! What is our government doing to us?????
Your EPA at work… it's not just obummer, but thank all of the idiot "greenies" for regulation after regulation… oil and mining are produced elsewhere, the EPA has shut down or reduced just about EVERY resource of this nation. And now, light bulbs…it is an orchestrated plan to desensitize Americans to the government intrusion into our lives. Stand by folks, if 2012 is lost to the liberals, it is OVER! Thanks to the liberals and RINO's, you have these new regs… don't ya just love it??
Thanks to the Liberals? For what? I don't get it. They have been in control since 2002 or 4 Now for 6 months we have the house under new control we are grieving for the Pelosi regime back? I can't say much about either party it is time to stop voting party. All this underhandedness and imposition of the people is frightening to me. Get government off my back.
Because they ARE made in (china)not the United States. Out sourced work makes America a green country.
A few months ago, I had to replace a dead refrigerator. It was NOT a GE because of this kind of crap!
I don't know what you purchased, but there's only two manufacturers of refrigerators in the USA under all types of names- GE is the largest!!!!!!!
Just like Sears and the rest- Always check the manufacturer in the product information book for the appliance or ask you dealer~
Just curious – what happened to all that speechifyin' from Obama, Kerry and others of their ilk about levying fines or special taxes against companies that took their businesses overseas? I mean, GE is producing its poisonous light bulbs in China….and speaking of taxes, the hidden taxation involved in Obamacare is something that we'll have to pay, even though the majority of Americans were against the bill. Didn't we fight a little war with England over "no taxation without representation"? And then there's that pesky amendment that says the government has no right to send people into our homes without permission to search for things that THEY claim we shouldn't have there…kinda like the British soldiers forcing entry into the homes of the Colonists to search for things THEY claimed they shouldn't have their (guns, newspapers, rebels). If the "unsophisticated" citizenry of this country were able to stand up to that brand of bullying back then, why can't we, with all our education, knowledge, and modern "sophistication"? Just curious.
Get use to it! I mean that the Gestapo Nazi Police in every city will be invading your home looking for the same things. Don't think for a minute that this is a Free country anymore. Haven't you ever noticed how when the police go after a person (weather he's guilty or not) it looks like an army has invaded your neighborhood, all with guns drawn and ready to Kill anybody who gets in their way. Does anybody remember? Innocent till proven Gulity!
Yup, I've noticed. Especially here in Florida, which has become, basically, a police state. Heck, they'll arrest you just for pointing out the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing. But get used to it? Nope. Never. That's the shortcut to complacency, to laying down in the middle of the street and saying, "Okay, guys, start the steam roller – I'll just get used to being flattened." When people get used to be abused, they stop believing, or simply forget, that there's another way to live. Like battered wives (or husbands), somewhere along the line they convinced themselves that the batterer was the only one who would ever take care of them, so they got used to to being beaten up every so often in exchange for the so-called care. Yikes. Not me. I'm old enough to remember a far more patriotic America, when people like Pelosi, Obama, Reid, Boxer, etc. would be shunned by society for their Communist/Marxist/Socialist leanings, never mind be elected to public office. But now, America has been lulled to sleep by undeclared social programs like political correctness, "reasonable" arguments about why the Constitution could, maybe, possibly, be a little unnecessary in today's world, Dr. Spockisms, no prayer in the schools, the ban of any public use of "Christmas" displays (even though anything Muslim is fine)…well, I just can't get used to that, either. In fact, I won't.
I've said this before. If you haven't read 1984 now is a good time to do so to see what our country is turning into. Only we can stop it. I will vote for anyone who promises to sign an executive order to do away with the EPA, the Dept. of Energy and the Dept. of Education.
With the entire Congress being in cahoots, our only hope is for the military to go to Washington and take over this country until we elect and an entire new Congress. President should be tried for TREASON.
What should be done is for a MILLION MAN march on The White House, and every one of the million people be carrying a CFF GE light bulb from China, and shove every one of them up obamas ass, and then hit him across the ass with a baseball bat so they all explode. Then ax him what he thinks about that. Talk about being GREEN, I'd say from all that mercury in his system he would be greener than an 18 hole golf course.
Capitalism? Tell me you are kidding. This is the work of two progressive morons. One dirtier than the other, but both are pure bottom feeders, agenda driven and out to distroy the America we love.Obama is a liar today, he was a liar yesterday and will continue to be a liar tomorrow.
Capitalism, my arse.
Barb, I think you hit some wrong keys. I hope you meant to type Communism, not Capitalism.
STocking up on incandescents now. My electrician says he thinks the new bulbs aren't nearly as good as they suggest, take longer to go on. Who, by the way, is going to take them to a recycling center when they burn out? Yeah, right.
When they burn out, send them to the White House!
I did a little research and at present cfe bulbs can still be mailed.. How soon before that stops? Ever looked at those things banned for shipping at your post office? Next will be cfe bulbs….To toxic for the mail.. Sometimes I believe common sense is being flushed down the toilet in our country and "WE The People" are letting it happen.
Everyone in here who blames Congress, Obummer or anyone else for our situation is simply not being honest. We elected them all. We buy products we don't like.
Elect someone who will bring back common sense and if you don't like a product or the company behind it boycott them.
So yes sending all used cfe bulbs to the white house is still legal and a very good idea.
I did not vote for any of those socialist, communist leaches.I especially did not vote for Obama.I saw his lies the minute he opened up his mouth.
Sending them to the WH is a GREAT idea. If EVERYONE in this country did that who knows what would happen.
Diane, If you break one in your house, you CANNOT clean it up. Must call a Bio Hazard company because of the poisonous mercury inside. Everything in the house must be cleaned including furniture, walls, curtains, ceilings, and even duct work. Costs are said to run up to $2,000. PLUS you have to find a place to live until cleanup is complete.
Hey they sweep up just like regular bulbs , then into the trash can, believe me I know…..
It would be a simple process to just rid our nation of Liberal/Progressive control in all directions. If Obama goes, so does GE and then Congress can reverse the light bulb law, the tsars, George Soros, Valerie Jarrett and the rest of the ilk will be history and we can go about the business of putting our nation back together again. It was a bad experiment that didn't work, we need to correct it, with no hard feelings, just action!
Clifton Lee West
You said it SO WELL. Keep spreading the word – we MUST turn it around!! Thank you !!
Like I said before. THOSE people are not intelligent enough to be able to run to the border, let alone run a complete country. Hell, they don't even have enough brains to pull their pants up to where they belong.
Well you folks voted the Idiots into office. Now you can vote them out. Florescent light bulbs contain Mercury which is Extremely TOXIC
Plus the light from them is very bad for eyes.
I only use 40 or 60 watt light bulbs in the house. A 15 watt in the master bedroom.
Why hasn't this law been sued out of existence??
We have our chance to do just that in November 2012. Don't vote for even one Democrat or Socialist or Communist or Green. Nothing would be worse than what we have running the country now.
Having researched the CFL light bulb in the past on it's material composition and manufacturing processes. The following historical, and scientific information was compiled to give a clear and concise understanding regarding the CFL light bulb and the hazards that it exhibits.
One area of concern is that most western countries have adopted the policy of replacing incandescent light bulbs with mercury laded CFL light bulbs, on the premise that we are saving energy and by saving energy we are producing less CO 2. It is interesting to note and with irony that with all the effort to introduce CFL light bulbs to the environment, there is no restriction on the use and sale of plasma flat screen TV's that use 3 times more energy than standard CRT TV's that they are replacing.
The premise to market these hazardous light bulbs is based on a false fact that we can reduce CO 2. To clarify, man made CO 2 is less than 2% of all the CO 2 in the atmosphere, so changing it by any amount would mean nothing and the fact that man made CO 2 only accounts for about .01% of the green house effect. This therory does not hold a candle in the wind. Scientific data shows that historical increases in CO 2 follows warming and doesn't precede it, and that there is no true correlation to increase of CO 2 and increase in temperatures. Temperature and CO 2 are logarithmic when they are applied. The global warming climate models have proved themselves totally flawed!
But there is an real major environmental catastrophe waiting in the future with mercury laden CFL light bulbs. Mercury is a neurotoxin and it bio accumulates. CFL's contain on a average 5 mg (range 0.9 to 18 mg) of mercury. Breaking a single CFL light bulb in a room can result in mercury levels 300 times in excess of what the U.S. EPA has established as safe for prolonged exposure. Serious health effects are associated with mercury exposure. The real cost is not one light bulb breakage, but how badly affected homes will be after 20 years of amateur attempts to clean up one of the deadliest neurotoxins on the planet. I would like to high light that the unborn and young children, elderly and those with weakened health are particularly vulnerable. Mercury effects the nervous system, Neuro-pathways of children are still developing and exposure can result in permanent damage. No health organization will dispute that mercury is a toxin: It arguably ranks as the second-most-poisonous compound on earth, after plutonium.
When CFL bulbs burn out they can create acrid plastic smoke, as Jim Pegg alluded to, and this smoke is carcinogenic (cancer causing) fumes. Those bulbs without an internal fuse will melt or smoke until power is turned off. 90% of these bulbs are currently manufactured in China where quality control is questionable. A CFL light bulb is nearly six times more expensive to make in terms of energy consumption. Presently there is no concrete safe policy on disposal of CFL light bulbs when they become inoperative, they usually just go to the land fill site where decay of the mercury produces a menthol mercury which is ten times more toxic and later leaches into the atmosphere. Western governments have this information that allows them to know the hazards involved in this product, which they appear to be ignoring.
The U.S. EPA (environmental protection agency) has issued a comprehensive 20 step clean up procedure when any CFL light bulb fails in your home.
Hey Ronald, thank you for explaining this so well. A Bio Hazard company will have to do the clean up. One report is that the house had to be evacuated for 3-5 days AFTER the cleanup, which cost around $2,000. We will be creating new jobs though. BIO HAZARD COMPANIES WILL BE THE NEW STARBUCKS.
Brilliant! Superb! You should run EPA, as you know what you are doing.
Here's a great GE story…kind of tells ya what those thieves are thinking. GE did a recall on some of their dishwashers. Their incredibly poor engineering allowed water to get between the inner & outter door panels. The water drips on the electronic control panel inside the door causing shorts, fires, etc. The recall was designed to put a cap over the control panel inside the door to keep the water off of the panel. Mine had already fried the control board and wiring. The GE technician came to do the recall repair and when he saw that the damage was already done, he called GE. They told him to charge me $200 to repair the machine. I told him to get the hell out of my home. I wouldn't buy any GE product even if it was the only one available.
Your story tells it all! Just how Lazy the American Household has become. I have an old dish-washer in my place. It has a left hand and a right hand, put them in front of the kitchen sink and they do the best job you ever seen. When the dryer kicks in, there's also good conversation. We do use a Washing machine but it not G. E. when the clothes come in from the clothes line they smell good too. We can save a tremendous amount of power when we use our brains instead of our pocketbooks.
Hey Fred, I remodel my home 4 years ago and put in all GE top of the line appliances. The Microwave started sparking and zapping si the technician put in a new computer for $210, (Not covered under warranty). Two weeks later it burned up. Had to buy a new one and only a GE would fit into the cabinet. The refrigerator has had replaced the compressor (warranty), computer (I paid $300) and later the ice maker. for $150. NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY GE.
Bob, hate to tell you this but damn few appliances are made in the U.S. any more. Most are made in China. Almost all of the compressors in all brands of fridges are made in Brazil. The quality control is poor at best. I work on appliances and have found that Whirlpool is the best. That's not to say that they don't occasionally put out a piece of crap like the Calypso washing machine that was not only a POS, it got Sears and Whirlpool a class action law suit. So much of our mfg. and tech along with the jobs has gone overseas because of the greed of American manufacturers . A lot of that is thanks to the thieving unions driving costs out of sight. Look at the U.S. postal service as an example (hope one of them doesn't go postal on me). The letter carriers make an inordinate amount of money to stick mail in the box because of their union. What they make for what they do is obscene. Most have minimal education and their work requirements are a joke. Ever wonder why your mail comes at 4PM Mon-Fri but 1PM on Saturday? It's because they are required to work until 5 PM week days. If they finish their route early, they have to return to the local branch and help out. On Saturday, they are allowed to go home when they have finished their route therefore, they work quicker and more efficiently on Saturday. Gotta tell ya, I absolutely despise unions. The teachers union is at the heart of why education in this country has gone down hill so badly.
General Electric (Jeff Imelt) and the White House slug in residense (Barrack Obama) have again joined forces to screw America. I find it sad that our president who has brought us all to our knees with his outlandih green agenda believes that crap like this is the answer to our problems. He does nothing about jobs, the economy is in the toilet, he works without a budget, he has an illegal war going on in Libya, the debt limit has been exceeded yet his answer is lets improve the light bulb at a cost of approx. 50.00 dollars/each. The man is a complete and utter moron and his best pal Imelt, this is the same slug that did business with Iran for years illegally.
What the hell is going on? How much are we going to allow this Chi-town mobster to get away with. Green my arse, this is dirtier than a pile of fly covered horse manure in the middle of your kitchen.COMEONMAN!
bluqe, Don't you see it? His plan is 100% on target. All you need to do is look at the life style and the freedoms in the middle eastern countries, europe and asia. His goal is to make us just like them with him and soros as the emperors in charge. Have you ever heard of communism? well we are on our way. his ship has set sail to the land of the hammer and sickle.
Bob, You are right.
I've posted this before, and now again for those who might not have seen it.
From 1904 to 1968 General Election ballots contained the SOCIALIST PARTY, but not since. The Socialists have infiltrated the Democrat Party over the last 60+- years. During that time many Dems moved into the Repub. Party, pushing the Conserv. Repubs either out, or into a corner. The Demo Party of today is the Socialist Party of yesteryear, and the Repub. Party of today is the Demo Party of yesteryear. We now have the two Party sys. of Socialist and Democrat, not Democrat and Republican. (I WISH PEOPLE COULD COME TO GRIPS AND UNDERSTAND THIS FACT)The RINOs are just the visible "old" Dems who have infiltrated the Rep. Party. Actually, the Socialists are DINOs(Dems In Name Only) in the Demo Party.
The enemy has taken over our Government and the two Parties are basically (A) staunch Socialists (the Obama admin.) and (B) those Socialist "leaning" politicians (80%? of the Repubs.). They are basically in this together, some a little more left than others, but still the enemy of "we the people". I am amazed that our people do not recognize the infiltration that has taken place.
Believe this, they, the Socialists, will not change. This light bulb fiasco is just another nail in "our" coffin, in which the Socialists are determined to put us.
I try to not be pessimistic, but I do not believe we have enough Conservative backing to overthrow Obama in the next election. Too much money on the other side.
Obama has been lighting many fires to keep us busy while he puts his agenda in place. The bulb fiasco is just another "fire" that we want to put out. However, the only way to stop the fires is to get rid of the ARSONIST! The emails, faxes, phone calls, surveys, etc. will not turn them around. These "FIRES" are just another means of distraction to keep up off balance and occupied. What "we the people" do not understand is that the longer we wait to get rid of him, the more time we are giving him to complete his agenda of destroying our Country. Anyone not realizing this is in denial.
One final point. Just because Obama brought forth a "real"???? birth cert. means we should all just go faint in some corner, and now bow down to him? There are plenty of other infractions committed by this fake. He's a fraud and should be treated as such.
There is no other solution but to remove him and his co-conspiritors. Beware the gun ban as one of his proposals.
I haven't purchased a GE product since Jack Welch left the company. I hope this story makes others think about companies that play politics rather then serve the consumers.
Here are the condensed version of the EPA Clean Up guidelines:
How should I clean up a broken fluorescent bulb?
Because CFL's contain a small amount of mercury (5 to 18 mgs), EPA recommends the following clean-up and disposal guidelines: Keep in mind . . . .
But there is an real major environmental catastrophe waiting in the future with mercury laden CFL light bulbs. Mercury is a neurotoxin and it bioaccumulates. CFL's contain on a average 5 mg (range 0.9 to 18 mg) of mercury. Breaking a single CFL light bulb in a room can result in mercury levels 300 times in excess of what the US EPA has established as safe for prolonged exposure. Serious health effects are associated with mercury exposure. The real cost is not one light bulb breakage, but how badly affected homes will be after 20 years of amateur attempts to clean up one of the deadliest neurotoxins on the planet. Unborn and young children, elderly and those with weakened health are particularly vulnerable. Mercury effects the nervous system, Neuro-pathways of children are still developing and exposure can result in permanent damage. No health organization will dispute that mercury is a toxin: It arguably ranks as the second-most-poisonous compound on earth, after plutonium.
1. Before Clean-up:
Ventilate the Room Have people and pets leave the room, and don't let anyone walk through the breakage area on their way out.
Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.
2. Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces
Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes and place them in the glass jar or plastic bag.
Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.
3. Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug:
Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed, vacuum the area where the bulb was broken.
Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed plastic bag.
4. Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding, etc.:
If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from inside the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or bedding should be discarded. Do not wash such clothing or bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage.
You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the mercury vapour from a broken CFL, such as the clothing you happened to be wearing when you cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not come into direct contact with the materials from the broken bulb. If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from the bulb, wipe them off with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for disposal.
5. Disposal of Clean-up Materials
Immediately place all cleanup materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area for the next normal trash pickup.
Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials.
Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area.
Some states prohibit such trash disposal and require that broken and unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a local recycling centre.
6. Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
Ventilate the Room During and After Vacuuming
The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming.
Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after vacuuming is completed.
I might add….. none of that is required for an incandescent bulb with the exception of picking up the proken glass so you don't step on it and cut yourself. Of course if you miss a piece of broked cfe bulb glass and step on it; you directly inject toxic mercury into your body.
Ronald, Hope you don't mind but I've added some sommon sense observations to your synopsis of the EPA clean-up guidlines. Thanks for you insightful comments above.
Here is a condensed version of the EPA Clean Up guidelines:
How should I clean up a broken fluorescent bulb?
Because CFL's contain a small amount of mercury (5 to 18 mgs), EPA recommends the following clean-up and disposal guidelines: Keep in mind . . . .
But there is an real major environmental catastrophe waiting in the future with mercury laden CFL light bulbs. Mercury is a neurotoxin and it bioaccumulates. CFL's contain on average, 5 mg (range 0.9 to 18 mg) of mercury. Breaking a single CFL light bulb in a room can result in mercury levels 300 times in excess of what the US EPA has established as safe for prolonged exposure. Serious health affects are associated with mercury exposure. The real cost is not one light bulb breakage, but how badly affected homes will be after 20 years of amateur attempts to clean up one of the deadliest neurotoxins on the planet. Unborn and young children, elderly and those with weakened health are particularly vulnerable. Mercury affects the nervous system, Neuro-pathways of children are still developing and exposure can result in permanent damage. No health organization will dispute that mercury is a toxin: It arguably ranks as the second-most-poisonous compound on earth, after plutonium.
1. Before Clean-up:
Ventilate the Room Have people and pets leave the room, and don't let anyone walk through the breakage area on their way out.
Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more. (Unless the wind is blowing and you create cross-ventilation, hardly any of the air-borne mercury dust will be vented. Even then, a lot of the mercury dust will be deposited on other surfaces throughout the area and will not be removed unless you dust and vacuum the entire area and possibly, the entire interior of the structure. God help you if your forced air furnace or central air conditioning were running at the time of the breakage. Now you have sucked the mercury dust into the ventilation system requiring a HAZMAT clean-up of the entire duct system).
Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one (hope you can think and move fast enough to shut it down before the dust gets sucked into the system cuz then you're screwed).
2. Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces
Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder.
Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes and place them in the glass jar or plastic bag.
Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces. (Why do you suppose you aren't supposed to use a vacuum here but you are supposed to use one on carpet????????)
3. Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug:
Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. (Do you really think sticky tape is going to get hardly any of the powder out of the carpet. Come on now. This is simply idiotic).
If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed (only an idiot would believe that the tape got all of the residue), vacuum the area where the bulb was broken.
Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed plastic bag. (You all realize how much air is pumped into the room by a normal vacuum cleaner. There will be powder residue in that air. The only safe way to vacuum will be with a HEPA vacuum. A normal vacuum will coat your entire home or office with a very fine powder containing the mercury which you will obviously end up breathing).
4. Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding, etc.:
If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from inside the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or bedding should be discarded. Do not wash such clothing or bedding because mercury fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage. (How many people are actually going to follow these procedures? We will all end up getting our daily ration of mercury thanks to the EPA. This corrupt, inept Federal agency allowed brake shoe manufacturers to pollute the entire country for many years with asbestos laden dust from brake shoes on cars. Their rationale was that the shoes were not in a friable state when sold. Duh. What was the intended end use of the brake shoes…….they were ground into a very fine dust. Only took the EPA about 30 years to figure out what the rest of us already knew and outlaw asbestos laden brake shoes).
You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the mercury vapour from a broken CFL, such as the clothing you happened to be wearing when you cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not come into direct contact with the materials from the broken bulb. If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from the bulb, wipe them off with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for disposal.
5. Disposal of Clean-up Materials
Immediately place all cleanup materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area for the next normal trash pickup.
Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials. (You will be flushing that water into our water system which is recycled. Somewhere down the road, you will be drinking that mercury because normal water processing will not remove that mercury).
Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific area.
Some states prohibit such trash disposal and require that broken and unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a local recycling center. (Obviously, it will be a long term contaminate and requires special disposal. Again, how many people are going to follow these guidelines? Damn few. Most people will simply throw the CFL debris or non-functioning bulbs in the trash. Have you ever seen a landfill? Huge machines repeatedly run over the trash to compact it, move it around with huge bulldozers, etc. In other words, they tear the crap out of the trash which is going to allow this incredibly dangerous crap to leach into the ground water and/or blow around in the wind).
6. Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
Ventilate the Room During and After Vacuuming
The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming.
Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least 15 minutes after vacuuming is completed (again, this is completely idiotic. Opening a window is going to vent damn little of the air-borne dust unless you create cross ventilation, and hurricane force winds are blowing through your home).
The mere existence of these clean-up guidelines issued by the EPA is a clear indication of how dangerous the residue from these bulbs will be. Our politicians, once again, have been bought or duped into forcing upon us another bad and incredibly dangerous product.
Here is the bottom line:
If these bulbs were named something else, like asbestos2 or plutonium light bulbs, the EPA would require a full containment procedure every time one of these things broke. You would have to call in a HAZMAT team, they would fully contain the area of the breakage with plastic drapes, create negative air flow which is vented using HEPA machinery, a hazmat clean-up would be undertaken, and all of the materials from the clean-up would have to be sealed in approved containers and disposed of in a special waste area which is maintained in such a way that the containers would not be damaged (this alone is very expensive). This is actually a requirement that should be in place now and each such clean-up would probably cost $1500. How loud do you think the public would scream if this were the case. Our lovely politicians would much prefer to expose the public to this hazard than to lose the benefits they receive from the special interests and lobbyists.
Americans need to pull their heads out of their asses and cry foul. Once again, we have been sold down the river by Congress and their self-serving special interests. Why do you think these CFL's are only being produced in China. With the regulations that exist is this country for worker safety, etc., it would probably cost $100 each to produce these dangerous pieces of crap in the USA.
By the way, I forgot to mention that when you clean up after breaking a CFL light bulb, you really (not kidding here) need to use at least a respirator or better yet, use a full hazmat suit. You need to keep that dust out of your lungs and off of your skin.
Congress can't solve any real crisis, but they were able to solve the light bulb crisis, and inconviencing everyone in the country in the future and making lighting your home much more expensive.Supposedly a woman in Maine broke a compact flourescent bulb in her home and the environmental people were called and told her that a special environmental cleanup was necessary to remove the mercury left behind. The cleanup was to cost $2000.00! A regular bulb only requires a dustpan and a broom. What has the government done to us!?
What do y'all expect from a gov't that pushes ethanol & solar. The damage to food prices from producing ethanol is staggering, and it's slowly ruining your car's engine(they want you to buy another one). Solar is still a wet dream by academics who don't have a clue. We have to subsidize it or else its not affordable. All these "academics" know how to do is raise your taxes.
The government is full of hypothetical bull.
Freon worked better than what we have now. Toilets used estimated 5 gal per flush, new uses 2 gal per flush but sometimes you have to flush 3 or 4 times. The government mandated chemicals in food, tobacco, and all consumable products is poisonous (but they blame the product, not the additives). The list goes on and on.
So what's new? The GUBMENT continues to
stick it to us. To those of you that voted
for Obamba; do you think being in bed with
him will make a difference? You're going
to get screwed too.
Carol, what school did you graduate from?
Sue your teachers. Your sentence structure
and punctuation SUCKS.
Tell Ron, this mr. perfect fag to, GFY~
The only person lower than a cop or a critic is whale sht, and that's at the bottom of the ocean-
And Ron, my an insidious disease imperil you for the rest of you life-
Bad Karma,
Praise Allah~
I too have been stocking up on incandescent bulbs. I can make it through my lifetime with my current supply.
On a side note – I have enjoyed painting for years but in the last two have noticed an enormous change in my canvas supplies.
A 16X20 inch canvas (Made in the USA)
now costs $9.95 and is, but the majority of artist supply outlets also stock huge supplies of canvasses from China and Viet Nam – selling them for 3 for $9.95.
As a V.N. Vet and American citizen (and former GE employee)I find what is happening to this country very distressing. 58,000 American lives were forfieted for the ability to buy these items cheaper from Communists?
Whatever happened to 'aiding and abetting' the enemy?
Where is McCarthy when you really need him?
These countries are NOT our friends! Now it seems General Electric and many more companies are also NOT America's friend.
Want to hear something that will put the frosting on the cake? The nuclear reactors that blew up in Japan during the earthquakes were built after WWII by G. E. Now since they will have to be restored or rebuilt, guess who is going to get the contract again? W O W, look at the profit they are going to reap. Of course, this will create ZERO jobs for America. They are instructed that they MUST hire people from there to do the work. Is this justice or what?
Well, after all of the above comments, I hope most people have seen the "LIGHT." Pass the word to everyone, and:
Don't follow the multitudes because the majority of men are ignorant. Author unknown.
I am surprised , and very shocked to find out a a huge company that never even paid one red cent in taxes , and yet made billions in profits, actually is in cahoots with the great obummer to shove shitty bulbs down our throats.
Amazed I tell you.
Can you say : CROOKS
Like to have the names of congress that were lobbied and voted on GE side. These people need to be voted out of office.
And while they are going out the door they should be handed a bag with a broken CFF bulb in it.
I read a lot of feelings today and certainly go along…Question…How in the hell can we hit these people overnight instead of 2 years or 4 years by the time these polititions have sat on their asses for their term they leave with their salary for life..They let the supreme court say any corp can give whatever money it wants for their election…how do you think Obama is supposed to raise his billion for his next round. I had my ass shot at in Korea and for what..there has to be a way for us to unite on a quick scale to make the difference..thanks for letting me voice my feelings and by the way no one ever thanked me for geting shot at for 3 yrs..SCREW GM AND GE FOR STARTERS..THERE A LOT MORE WE DONT KNOW ABOUT thats going on out there folks ..believe me
Well folks, you are not alone. As a Canadian we also have stepped off the cliff into the depths of insanity. Science has been politicizes both in Canada and the US. and is no longer relevant to fact but to ideology. But I believe in Canada we recently had a federal election and the Canadian people have seen the light, have vote in a majority conservative government under Prime Minister ship of Stephan Harper, who by the is a economist by profession.
I believe it is important to know your enemy and that is the ideology of Bolshevism. It is plain as the nose on your face when you analyze Obama's policies they mirror the policies of Joseph Stalin of the USSR. Review history how Stalin destroyed the Russian entrepreneurial class, ( Kulaks) in Russia in the 20"s and 30's by collectivism. The end result was mass genocide starvation in the Ukraine and filling up the gulags ( over 400 establish ) with Russian citizens.
That's what I see in Obama and his policies. Remember folks, Bolshevism is alive and well, among us.
Complain all you want, but you MUST become politically active in your area. Switch from being a registered Independent to the major party of your choice so you have a vote in the primaries. Encourage your family and friends to do the same. Write letters, send emails, make phone calls. Join a group of like-minded conservatives like the 9-12 project people who want to take our country back. There are meet-up groups all over the country. Grassroots movements are alive and well no matter what the left would have you believe. Educate yourselves, and know that you are not alone in this struggle. Did you know that only 30% (+/-) of the American people actually fought for independence from England? I'm one of the 30% who are now fighting for independence from the progressive, socialist, Marxist, communists who are intent on destroying the U.S.A.!
Hang in there, Kathleen , the day is soon coming.
One more thing that needs to be repealed along with Obama/Soetoro. More poison to add to the chemtrails and the rest of ……
china is a communist country ? why do any business with them.
now the chi coms are in the position of putting America's lights out for good. you see the arabs using oil as a barginning chips, wait untill the chi coms use light bulbs against us. dont think the chi coms are not aware of this.
I sold my holdings in GE four years ago and refuse to even look at a GE product. Never again GE.
This jest goes to show you what this person Barack Obama is sleeping with GE and together they will rape every one of the people in this country to force each of us to buy what they make. For one I will never buy another thing that has GE as the manufacturer. And I would never vote for this criminal Barack Obama or any of the goons that follow him
Those D_____ COMMUNIST MUSLIMS NEED TO STAY OUT OF TEXAS. WE HAVE SOME EXTREMELY HUNGRY BUZZARDS, COYOTES, AND FERAL HOGS AROUND HERE, AND WE NEED TO GET THEM SOMETHING TO EAT.
Niels, You may need to spend some money at the eye doctors and get some new glasses. The ones you now have are not working. You are telling us to not buy the CFF bulbs because the are poison and made in China. Then you said for us to go to the Dollar Store and buy light bulbs there in the pack of 4 for $1.00. Look on the box and tell me where they were made. All of the Dollar General and Dollar Tree stores are owned by a Chinese conglomerate, and everything in there stores comes from China. So you are still supporting their economy, not ours. DAAAAAAA ! !
I heard on TV that the new curly light bulbs could cause seizures in some people. This caught my attention because I was doctoring for that problem. None of the tests the neurologist ran on me showed anything that could be causing the seizures. After heaaring the report on TV I changed the bulbs in my lamps back to incandescent bulbs. I do not know if this was my problem or not, but I have had no more seizures and my doctor says I may never have another one. I am afraid I will be forced to use those bulbs again.
Interesting trend:
GM = Government Motors (my brand of choice until Government and unions took over)
GE = Government Electric which is in bed with government as they even placed a VP with Obama to make sure GE gets the favored Government contracts, (cap and trade really benefits GE) and of course light bulbs made in China.
To you dummies that voted for Obama, are you happy now? This crooked President and his corrupt administration have done more to destroy our standard of living than any body in history. THANKS A LOT!!
We need to call a HAZMAT Team when they are
schattered??? Better than what???
If you look up the word "cronyism" in the dictionary you will see the name G.E. in bold letters above the word. Everything from dual employment by execs, HC scam avoidance, lobbyist for a lethal lightbulb, and a lock on nuke plant building not to mention dozens of defense contracts…yep, I'd say cronyism really fits the Deemers largest donator. It's against the law and there is no one addressing this matter.
Stop using GE Products and contact your congressman and tell him. It probably won't do any good because GE has huge military contracts and the lobbyists line the pockets of the scumbag congressmen with cash. So, GE really doesn't need our domestic sales and your congressman is addicted to their cash and nothing is going to change.
We need a Revolution!
I guess Communism isn't as bad as the United States once thought it was.
Our government loves them! Our corporations love them!
Where did I go wrong in thinking that communists were bad? Was my education corrupted?
Why didn't the United States help the USSR when they were on the verge of collapse? We just let those nice people fall into chaos and self-destruct.
Why did we kill all those nice people in previous wars? Think of all the good they could have done for us!
We aren't buying any of these toxic light bulbs…can't afford a HAZMAT team cleanup if one gets broken. I can't believe how ridiculous it is!! So-called "green" light bulbs which are toxic to users??? Somebody's brainless idea…probably GE's! We are poisoning ourselves so Al Gore can make money to support his many mansions!! Environmentalists will take our country down, with their stupid ideas…save this, save that…we'll be back in caves soon, and they'll be living in luxury with all their money. I'm sick of it and hope in Nov 2012 we can get rid of the communists in our government, including the communist in chief….
A major portion of these CFL bulbs will be in our Landfills and subsequently dumping Mercury that goes into our Enviroment, streams etc.
Another case of Federal Government by greedy Politicians and Cogressman that do not give a Hoot about anything but payoffs to those that can keep them in power
Many of the GE CFLs that I have bought fail to last anywhere near the claimed life expectancy of 5 years.
Have ONLY ONE THING in common:
The Difference Is God Doesn't Think He's Obama.
United States of America.
Born: July 4, 1776
Died: Nov 4, 2008
Cause of Death: Suicide
What do you get when you cross a Democrat with a pig?
Nothing. There are just some things a pig won't do!
Baskin Robbins is introducing a new ice cream in honor of the inauguration, "Barocky Road". It's half vanilla, half chocolate, surrounded by fruits and nuts!
we voted in obama atleast they say the majority did. We are killing ourselves and yet we are thinking about voting obama back into office. What is wrong with Americans and there twisted thought patterns.
Who is the "we" you keep talking about that voted Obama in and is going to vote him in again? The vast majority of people I know and that I see on FB, etc, DON'T want him in again. Sadly thought, Soros has already paid for the next election and I forsee him getting back in. It's all part of the grand plan to ruin our country.
KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY. MY SIGHTS ARE ON SORROS. I dispise this gutter scum from the depths of hell.
I'm with you stock up on ammo.
Right you are,I agree and I am about to purchase a gun to protect my family and stop anyone who takes away my freedom, you can count on me.. Time to stop Soros, he is evil.
Unfortunately, terrorism laws don't apply to one of the world's top 5 when he can buy governments and countries to tear down…
You don't even know how to spell his name.
You are so right the same with the light bulb I won't buy GE I will stick with the dependable old bulbs stock up now [I call them the Ben Franklin bulbs]
Why don't we take steps to simply boot him out of the White House now?
Look at the birth certificate that Trump forced him to make public. I clearly shows that the father was not a U.S. Citizen.
The baby is 'native-born' because the birth happened in Hawaii. But the foreign citizenship of the father means the baby is not a "natural-born" American citizen.
You can get the details of that citizenship status here … http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html
talk is cheap. GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT in November 2012.
Why wait till 2012?
…but the elections are rigged with a logarithm which makes the elections come out 49% TO 51% every time – no matter what figures are fed into it.
Join a Tea Party and help delete illegal votors. It's being done and we can use all the help we can get.
Put your cross hairs on Assoros and give him a reason to keep quiet.
For one thing, you could not get within a country mile of Soros. Nice thought though!
Thats what I mean… obama and the democrats are so corrupt its like our votes are not even counted. The entire white mosque house is so against the people yet it is supposed to be for the people and by the people.look who funded pelsoi and her meetings(SOROS). What is it really going to take for Americans to say enough already? The over 400,000 attorneys that amke up the aba(AMERICAN BAR ASSOCIATION) want shariah law pushed on us here in America.. Look it up yourself. obama and reid and pelosi have an agenda for CHANGE and we are not going to like the CHANGE they give us. The blacks will still vote obama as well as the latinos as long as obama gives them a free handout and he is so what are real Americans to do? We must start to call and email 20 elected officals at any level of local,state or federal and tell them to stop the selling of america. Better get yourself some guns and ammo while that is still your right or you will wish you did.
@ Muslim
Better make sure they are not registered, as they will come to pick them up before you even have a chance to defend yourself… You know that Holder will not uphold the 2nd amendment.
God help us all.
My son-in-law is black and he is ultra conservative and would never vote for Obummer.
Almost all politicians are corrupt and liars. When you blame everything on the dems you are saying the repubs are honest. Get it into your head – we are screwed because no matter who gets into office we are lied to and shafted for the benefit of those that paid to get the guy in office. You need to fight against the Sorros and other elites that benefit no matter who is elected.
Great right to the point stock up on guns & ammunition. No CFL'S for me I am sticking with the old fashioned dependable BenFranlin's.
If, after everything that BHO has done to this country, the Blacks still vote for Obama, then they are the racists ones. I have experienced this myself recently. A person I helped run for office was going around the town asking for votes. Talk was about this or that, important issues….until we got the Black section of town. I never heard so much talk about racism in my life. Not so much about white against blacks but about blacks against blacks, in particular is was about light skinned blacks being picked on by dark skinned blacks. I/we heard about it over and over, almost at every house we went to in that area of town.
Who's "we"? I didn't vote for Obama and I'm glad I didn't! We the people will NOT vote for him again.
Please do not think Americans will not vote for the scumbag again. Right now he has a 60% approval rating. That means 60% of us would vote for him again. WE ALL MUST DO OUR PART TO CONVINCE THE MISGUIDED SOULS THAT VOTED HIM INTO OFFICE TO VOTE HIM OUT in Novermber 2012.
With 40% of Americans paying no federal income tax, and about that same many receiving "something" from the government, you already have your 40%. Then add a few idiots who don't think, don't know and are too stupid to read, and you get your added 20% and thus 60% favorable rating.
As far as I'm concerned, we need to introduce a law that stipulates that you must be a federal tax payer to have the right to vote. That would solve two things. One, different laws would be passed and two, the federal government would have some money to work with instead of having to hand it out to the losers who vote themselves money from the treasury! You would have to show a federal tax return in order to vote. Boy would that change the way Washington works!!
If you subtract the votes he received from illegal immigrants, prisoners, and dead people, he only got 4 votes…
I'm pretty sure we can beat that if we put my dog (Goliath) on the ballot.
Ron Paul/Goliath 2012
Most just voted for him because he was black. They didnt have a clue about his politics, or origin,,he was black was their only pre requisite. Guess what,,blacks will vote for him again,,same reason as the first time.
He does not have a 60% approval. That poll vastly oversampled Democrats.
That '60% approval rating' poll was ginned p by asking too many Demoncrats thier opinions along with independents. They, the Demoncrats' want people to 'believe' that everyone likes BHO when in truth the better part of the country can't stand the piece non-naturally born U.S. piece of trash.
I'm on your side but I'd give you odds…
I know more people that say they will never vote for obama yet how do we know our votes are even counted? Can we really trust the white house and all there scum sucking pig dung chewing camel licking anti American back stabbers?how is pelsoi still able to be in charge? why did mexifornia vote boxer and brown in? What is really going on in America?Our elected officals are against the people and if they can get elected back in then it does not matter to them at what cost>>>> We better arm up and get ready to rumble…..
I realy don't like your name But its not the worse I have seen, Calif voted they way they did B Cuz it is mostly DEMOCRAP HEAR AND OVER HALF THE STATE ARE UNION WORKERS and it's a BITCH living hear, so if your state isn't a right to work state then the unions get their way you the people fund the unions pensions and benefits and most are DEMOCRAPS and they like the Illegals votes as they vote DEMOCRAP also so it can happen in any state where people arent looking out for what is going on with your Govenor and the unions
@Marianne he's pulling 60 percent approvals since Osama and the Dems are kicking Republican ass over Medicare. The GOP has midgets and morons running for president and will be blamed for you tea party kooks. I'd say the Republicans are in seriously deep shit
Troll alert.
We cannot win an election against someone that buys votes from one portion of the population with the money stolen from the other portion.
The more money Oblahblah promises to put into public welfare programs, the less likely he will be voted out. Everyone wants him to pay for their gas and buy them a house. It's disgusting…but it's the truth.
With Soros money, and ACORN (or whatever they call themselves now), the Black Panthers, plus the free loading non tax paying idiots out there voting for this lying prez then it's going to be tough, but WE THE PEOPLE can do it with hard work, and lots of campaigning. Paul Ryan should be in the White House. He's the new Abe Lincoln that we need!
Bring Ball Bats to the polls in order to ward off the obama black panthers.
Draft Paul Ryan, he has more sense tha any thing Soros could possibly muster.
SEIU in their purple shirts also,
Vote early and vote often……
I am not sure who Paul Ryan is, but check out Allen West, good Presidential candidate to run against this muslim scuuummm!
There are many people who are losing their social security and medicare/medicaid because this area keeps getting cut. Senior citizens are greatly being affected by this and those who are disabled. What concerns me is that people who are not legally allowed to vote are given that priviledge..even those in prison. The whole system is corrupt. God Help Us!
Marilyn: God is the only one who can help us. Turning away from him is why we're in this mess in the first place. If we turn away from him, he turns away from us. The government is full of crooks, and they're all lusting for money and power. If we could get rid of the crooks, most of our problems would be solved. Obama got elected by crooks, babies and dead people, and if we let him continue, he will destroy us.
You are correct. It is obama and reid and pelosi that want control and power and do not care how many seniors they hurt. When is America going to say enough already and start hanging all elected officals for Treason.
Dont forget millions came from over seas,,,FEC is still investigating. They wil how ever finish the investigation at the end of his 2nd term. Expect millions more for re-election also.
Andrea, you are correct, Obama wants government to be the master and we be the slaves, and putting everyone on welfare is the road to socialism and communism
I am so sorry you that voted for this commie Obama,Funny I knew what this guy was from the get go a dyed in the wool commie, funny how other people who have collage could not see the forest for the tree's. Any who is stupid enough to vote this clown back in office need to suffer what he will bring down on their heads. As for me all these jerks in the white house and congress can go to HELL!!!!
Muslim ,you are a commie in sheeps clothing.you are nothing more and a pimple on pelosi's backside.if obamacare is so great then why give a waiver to anyone?I know dave,you will not answer that question.if obamacare is so good then why have all white house officals exempted themselves and thier famlies from it.dave,this is America so you have the right to speak out like we all do,we just all know you are a scumsuckingpig dung chewing camel licking muslim suck-up and a commie democrat and hate America. just move to one of your muslim loving scum sucking middle east scum bag countries and take obama and reid and pelosi and holder with you. i am sure the true americans giving comments could donate to the cause.
Eliminate the word thought and subsitute following the loudest idiot blindly.
I have to disagree we need to be able to drill and refine our own oil and tarriff the shit out of every import coming into the U.S., and go back to self sufficiency, we don't need anything from any other country, stop all the bail outs stop all of the money donations to oil company's, and stop handing out money to countries in distress, our own is in need.
Well said. There are so many really bad things happening and we are pounded every day with something else that should not be, that I think everyone is weary with the saturation. My list of business's that I am boycotting is getting long. G.E., Home Depot, Sears, banks and credit cards that have shriah financing are at the top. I try very hard never to buy anything made in China which is almost impossible. I just have to believe that there are enough real Americans who understand what is real and what is a lie, that we can prevail in 2012.
we have been trying to not buy from China the past 4 months! I will do without if I can not find the item I'm looking for rather than buy China! There several sites to go to check this out – don't forget about food also – this was a real shocker to me – but if you look, there are the same products made in the USA, may be a few cents more, but I will do this rahter than send any $$ to China!
Amen to this. Kick Obama's butt out and restore honesty and common sense back in the White House. Obama's oil policy has increased the cost of gasoline, groceries and on every consumer goods that we are buying. Obama is against drilling, nuclear and coal. What other forms of energy do we have besides the above. If the Obama's "Cap & Trade" bill would have passed last year our utility bills would have nearly doubled. Thank God it didn't pass. A lot of folks are living from payday to payday and this idiot is trying to made the American Consumer pay even more of his hard earned money.
Heck, I didn't vote for Obama and don't know anyone who did. Oh, one person may have that I know but no one else. And isn't GE using union workers here in the US? All this proves that they too are more Nazis working to ruin the country. Darn, Obama has help from all sides it seems.
Some stupid cracker asshole calls himself "muslim scum reover" and then complains about other peoples' thought patterns. Stupid cracker asshole.
Here is one proud person who didn't vote for the freak, and I will not be voting for the freak in 2012, either!!! But you are right! The idiots who voted him in the first time around?? Well, it looks as if they are going for round two!! As the saying goes, YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!!
The only people considering voting Obama into office again are those that hate this country as much as he does. Or the illegals who are still promised amnesty.
You have to completely blind if you do not see what he has done to this country.
We my hide!!! I didn't vote the flippin' Communist/Socialist in. Don't point your frickin' finger in my direction!!!
Thank you Sir, for your service to our Country. God Bless!
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the war
It brings more military contracts and the drafting of the poor
It lets us build our pipelines so the profits are much more
The truth is trampled on
Glory! Glory! Halliburton!
Glory! Glory! Halliburton!
Glory! Glory! Halliburton!
The truth is trampled on.
Say Gunny, The North American Nations named him "Walking Eagle." A news reported asked why, a councl member said "Bird full of shit can't fly!" I am so surprised that GE would stoop so low they used to be a prised name in houshold products. Now is goig to pay for all of those dimmer switches in my home that will not work with flourescent light bulbs.
Good one and so appropriate.
Yup, sounds about right! Kayla.
great idea, now we know the truth, we should all boycott GE products, go America Go
Why Don't the Employees at GE's Closing plants Apply for small business loans buy what ever it takes to build incandecent bulb and then watch the Gov.t Go Ape shit, and the media go into apoplexy, trying to cover up the Conspiracy
a. j. you can count me in on that too. GE is making junk. We bought a new home with a brand new GE refrigerator. It lasted a little over a year and it went out. No more GE junk for me.
My opthalmologist has told me that fluorescent lighting is the worse light for your eyes let alone the mercury in it. Don't you all get it? Anything from China is harmful, many things from China can kill you eventually. Where I work, the sodering paste is from China and states not to inhale it so we don't breathe all day. (kidding, lots of fans if that does any good) Point is…..whatever they can get you to eat or use daily, the product will have consequences to your health. There's too many of us to control, so slowly kill some of us.
A short time ago, Iran's Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei urged the Muslim World to boycott anything and everything that originates with the Jewish people.
In response, Meyer M. Treinkman, a pharmacist, out of the kindness of his heart, offered to assist them in their boycott as follows:
"Any Muslim who has Syphilis must not be cured by Salvarsan discovered by a Jew, Dr. Ehrlich. He should not even try to find out whether he has Syphilis, because the Wasserman Test is the discovery of a Jew.
If a Muslim suspects that he has Gonorrhea, he must not seek diagnosis, because he will be using the method of a Jew named Neissner.
"A Muslim who has heart disease must not use Digitalis, a discovery by a Jew, Ludwig Traube.
Should he suffer with a toothache, he must not use Novocaine, a discovery of the Jews, Widal and Weil.
If a Muslim has Diabetes, he must not use Insulin, the result of research by Minkowsky, a Jew. If one has a headache, he must shun Pyramidon and Antypyrin, due to the Jews, Spiro and Ellege.
Muslims with convulsions must put up with them because it was a Jew, Oscar Leibreich, who proposed the use of Chloral Hydrate.
Arabs must do likewise with their psychic ailments because Freud, father of psychoanalysis, was a Jew.
Should a Muslim child get Diphtheria, he must refrain from the "Schick" reaction which was invented by the Jew, Bella Schick.
"Muslims should be ready to die in great numbers and must not permit treatment of ear and brain damage, work of Nobel Prize winner, Robert Baram.
They should continue to die or remain crippled by Infantile Paralysis because the discoverer of the anti-polio vaccine is a Jew, Jonas Salk.
"Muslims must refuse to use Streptomycin and continue to die of Tuberculosis because a Jew, Zalman Waxman, invented the wonder drug against this killing disease.
Muslim doctors must discard all discoveries and improvements by dermatologist Judas Sehn Benedict, or the lung specialist, Frawnkel, and of many other world renowned Jewish scientists and medical experts.
"In short, good and loyal Muslims properly and fittingly should remain afflicted with Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Heart Disease, Headaches, Typhus, Diabetes, Mental Disorders, Polio, Convulsions and Tuberculosis and be proud to obey the Islamic boycott."
Not only do I agree with this, I enjoyed this greatly, thank you for the research and info. I hope they enjoy the symptoms and certain death.
Thanks Raymond. Great post.
Raymond, In the interest of fairness, don't you think you should list a dozen or so of some of the greatest scientific contributions of the Muslims? Like……? I forget right now.
Ha ha ha ha!! That's really cute. GOD BLESS YOU.
Raymond, did you make that up?
Baracky Road…
If this is really true I would go and get one.
Way to go Raymond. This tore me up with laughter.
To all my dear fellow legal American brothers and sisters:
Please help to get the following information out to as many people as you can. Post this in the coments sections of as many sites as you can, regardless of political stance. Email to all your family and friends and ask them to do the same. All of our American brothers and sisters must be educated and informed of what we are dealing with! You'll never know whom you might affect a change in and it's sooo much better than doing nothing!
Go to this site:
Scroll all the way down towards the bottom til you get to a newspaper column (This is what's important!) titled:
'Global Elite Picked Obama Long Before Voters'
We MUST be UNITED
and get this
out of
The following is a video link I found in a comment that will help you see the importance of uniting with all our other American brothers and sisters in this great country of ours. We all need to make a stand and STICK WITH IT..!!! We truly are better than the politicians we having running our country and it's time to let them all know it. We all must stand our ground and insist they (the politicians) change… no more of them changing us! United as ONE voice we will get this done! We MUST…!!! Please help to get this out across our great country!
We need to stand together with ONE VOICE and demand that ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES bring to the forefront of their platform the constitutionality of idiOt's right, or lack thereof, to run for the office of president. It is THEIR JOB and THEIR RESPONSIBILITY and THEY HAVE FAILED US ALREADY on this incredibly important issue.
We all must put the pressure on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. If they will not …then we make it perfectly clear that we WILL NOT vote for them in any election. They need to receive hundreds of thousands of letters, phone calls, emails, etc. The RNC needs to receive the same. Short, concise statements that clearly and simply spell it out:
Hundreds of thousands of letters, emails, phone calls simply stating this to every one of the republican candidates AND the RNC. WE MUST CHANGE THE WAY THEY ARE WORKING AND NOT LET THEM CHANGE US! We are right… they are wrong! Stand stong and united… DO NOT WAIVER!
TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO PASS THIS SIMPLE MESSAGE ON AND ON AND ON! WE will make the difference. This is so simple… do not let this stop here! Keep this going!
These links don't work, copy and past goes to a search site and you have a large sellection of sites to choose from.
So far, at least one of the links does work – the one that begins "beforeitsnews" I opened it.
If Donald Trump worked for us, we'd have to say: "Donald, you're fired — for incompetence." The successful developer and TV celebrity says he'd make a good president, and maybe he would — we take no stand either way about that. But when it comes to getting facts straight, he fouls up again and again on the basics of President Barack Obama's birth. As a rookie reporter, he just wouldn't make it.
He claims the president's grandmother says Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, the recording to which he refers shows Sarah Obama repeatedly saying through a translator: "He was born in America."
He claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama's birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it "the place of my birth," thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.
He insists that the official "Certification of Live Birth" that Obama produced in 2008 is "not a birth certificate." That's wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses "birth certificate" as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.
He claims that there's no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.
He says newspaper announcements of Obama's birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 "probably" were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.
He claims "nobody knew" Obama when he was growing up and "nobody ever comes forward" who knew him as a child. "If I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten," Trump said. Well, two retired kindergarten teachers in a 2009 news story fondly recall teaching a young Barack Obama.
The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven't had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats. Hawaii's top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama's official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is "a natural born American citizen."
But when a leading prospect for the Republican presidential nomination embraces and repeats these spurious claims and groundless conspiracy theories on national television, we are forced to wade into this swamp once again. For details of where Trump goes wrong, and full documentation of the facts, please read on to our Analysis section.
He was born of a Muslim father. A Kenyan. His mother a young teenager was too young to confer citizenship to him. His father as a Kenyan was under British rule. He does not have both parents American citizens as the Constitution requires. He automatically became a British citizen due to his father.
The 11-minute video, which has been online since May 2, is titled "Not Natural Born — TRUTH MATTERS." It starts with a 30-second clip of Obama speaking before a group of adults. It begins in mid-sentence: " . . . that maybe I'm not an American citizen. Some people said he has a forged birth certificate. Well, first of all, it's true I'm not an American. I was not born in Hawaii. I wasn't born in the United States of America. I come from Kenya."
If you listen closely, you can hear bad editing. The volume and sound quality of his voice change at key points, such as between "it's true I'm not" and "an American." The video never shows his lips where he makes his key admissions, so you can't see if his lips are in sync with what he's saying. And his audience offers no reaction to what should be a stunning admission.
There's one other indication that the Obama "confession" is a hoax. Some anti-Obama sites that have posted the video have included a description beginning, "This video starts out with some content from obamasnippets.com, which, of course is contrived." But on the YouTube page, the word "contrived" is not visible, unless a viewer opens the full description box.
I really don't care where Obama was born. He, and his appointees, are destroying our country and are darned good at it. If you voted for him in 2010, you were duped: if you aren't yet aware of that, you're an idiot!
The conservative WorldNetDaily, which has long beaten the birther drum, quickly ran a story under the headline, "Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?"
But even WorldNetDaily founder Joseph Farah later ran a column saying he doubted it was real.
We e-mailed the purported Kenyan birth certificate to Salim Lone, spokesman for Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga, to see what he thought.
Here was his three-sentence reply: "It's a forgery. Kenya only became a Republic in December, 1964. Other arguments could also be marshaled, but they are not needed."
Then came a crushing blow. An astute blogger, Steve Eddy of California, did a Google image search and came across an eerily similar-looking birth certificate posted on a genealogy Web site by a South Australia man named David Jeffrey Bomford. Eddy put it side-by-side with the Obama one. Same format. Same book and page number in the birth registry. Some of the officials' last names were even the same.
"At that point, it was pretty obvious the Kenyan one was a fake, that someone had used this real one from Australia to make their version," Eddy told us.
Among those who challenge President Barack Obama's citizenship, one claim is often raised: Why would Obama spend millions of dollars defending against the lawsuits instead of simply producing his original birth certificate?
That argument took on renewed life recently when it was cited by potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
And the argument is almost always attached to a specific figure: $2 million.
In an interview on NBC's Today show, for example, Trump said Obama "spent $2 million in legal fees trying to get away from this issue." He repeated the figure in a CNN interview on April 10, 2011. "I just say very simply why doesn't he show his birth certificate?" Trump asked. "Why has he spent over $2 million in legal fees to keep this quiet and to keep this silent?"
It's certainly true that the Obama campaign has spent some amount of money opposing an array of lawsuits brought by people who claim that Obama has failed to produce a legitimate birth certificate and is therefore ineligible to serve as president.
We found that in the last quarter of 2008 — which is roughly the period after Obama was elected in early November — and the first three quarters of 2009, which is when WND wrote its story, Obama for America did, in fact, pay Perkins Coie $1.7 million.
For the sake of comparison, the Roll Call story noted that the campaign for Obama's 2008 Republican opponent John McCain — which was a smaller operation — had spent more than $1.3 million on lawyers since the election.
I just copied and pasted it. It worked ok. Be sure and check out this site too. http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/barack-attack/#comment-442658.
Exactly! The Global Elite picked Obama Not the people. Because Our Votes Don,t count in the Presidential Election. Only the Electoral Votes Count!
Our elected officals have all this information yet do nothing about it because they are selling us out,all of them and we keep voting the same corrupt commies into office,or do we? Who counts the votes? Acorn,and soros double checks the count… Oh,America,how we have been soldout yet we do nothing about it. obama uses the same live birth certificate just doctored a bit more and we buy it. Its time to wake up or read all about how America was once the greatest nation of all time…..Stop voting democrat commies into office or kiss America as we know it goodbye…..
As long as barack and his gang of outlaw socialists are running the show, and GE owns major propaganda outlets, it will get whatever it wants from the administration. Whether it is continued trade with Iran after sanctions were in place, or the total lack of government run media concern regarding the release of information that GE pays no U.S taxes.
Jeffery Imelt of GE travels with the muslim wherever he goes!
When the muslim goes, so should Imelt! GE is NO longer an American company. They should do business with other nations that can afford those $50 light bulbs they want to sell to us!!
GE is NOT contributing to the American economy, rather it is sucking it dry like every other foreign country we allow to do business here.
Those chinese made bulbs are toxic and a health hazard. How can anyone justify replacing incandescent bulbs, that are cheap and NOT a health threat, with the toxic chinese bulbs! It only makes sense if you hate America..
M Thoms, you ask who can ask the american people to buy these DANGEROUS bulbs ? OBAMA, DEMOCRATS, ALL THE THUGS IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, GENERERAL ELECTRIC, THATS WHO !!! BOYCOT all their products. Many people I know are doing just that & spreading the word. Good Luck !
Right, all the America-haters are supporting GE…and the GE lobby is paying them! How much kickback do you think the muslim is getting from these favors to GE!!
Lobbies should be illegal….
GE produces nothing in the United States. All their manufacturing takes place overseas.
There is certainly a lot to fear with the cfl bulbs, and I certainly don't want them in my house. The led bulbs are safe and when they have the capacity of the incandescent bulbs with the equivalent light display they could be used as replacements for our existing lighting, and hopefully, that can be done, or maybe already has been done. If and when they can effect that, we will have a bulb that will be superior in every way. At fifty dollars they seem extremely expensive, but these bulbs have an extended life upwards to estimates of 20,000 plus hours, even longer. In the long run, I think it would be a lot more economical than the current bulbs we use. I find myself replacing the incandescent bulbs at an alarming rate. The leds are more efficient and longer lasting without the danger of mercury poisoning.
Maybe the union toadies in the National Labor Relations Board will file an unfair labor practice complaint against GE like they are doing against Boeing. NOT!
What galls me is what everyone knows about GE and Obama yet the MSM on LSD runs cover for them.
How much did we hear about Halliburton? Everyday!
What GE has done is not knew. Dupont's freon R12-R22) patent was expiring in the 90's. Now remember the hole in the ozone layer? The one that was as real a threat as Y2K.
Well freon (a fluorocarbon) was supposed to be making the hole bigger…no problem for Dupont…play the media, get in bed with the Gov't and a whole new industry was created, retrofitting cars, new recycle equipment, a new patented product…what a scam and all the sheep just said BAAAAA!
GE will be making the smart grid that will "talk" to all future electrical devises and they will need electronic approval to operate. How's that for big brother?
Ray, Thank you for your service, I salute you sir.
GE income tax payment: $000000000000.00
We're just going further down the path folks.
Even a tax on products made in China won't help, who's gonna pay that tax in the end ?
What "green" benefits are there with CFL??? None, it's all fraud.
1. CFL's are a hazardous waste:
2. CFL's contain mercury, which authorities downplay or outright ignore.
BUT, it is critically important to NEVER vacuum clean up a broken CFL:
3. CFL's cause cancer:
4. CFL's are simply an electronic parts nightmare! Open the base of one, and
you will discover that EVERY CFL has it's own electronic ballast system.
The lobbying and bias is simply overwhelming prudence and national best
interests… GE doesn't own the LED patents, and knows that time is short
before LED simply renders CFL's as something that should have never been
made in the first place.
Once a year I replace all of the CFL bulbs in my house and can't find anyone to take the old ones. So I just put them in a bag (being careful not to break any… ya right…) and "throw" them in the garbage can (very hard). I treat them the same way as I did the incandescent bulbs. What else can you do no one will take them. I've thought about mailing them to the EPA with no return address maybe that will get there attention!
What the hell are you buying them for?
Remember, we no longer have a choice. Incandescent bulbs are now illegal. I went out and stocked up on them
I thought the new light bulbs were great until I learned how dangerous they were. And they already are wearing out. I say out with the new; in with the old. Can't we get the ruling reversed????? Come on, someone, help!!!
With GE not paying its share of corporate
TAXES I hope that they go bankrupt from LAW SUITES from these CFL light bulbs and for Obama signing he deserves BAD TIMES ahead
as well!!
I hear those light bulbs are going to sell for $50.00 for a 100 watt bulb. If one of my bulbs went out I would have to save for 2 months to buy a new one. I barely survive each month
The $50.00 bulbs are the "LCD" type bulbs, not the compact flouorescent bulbs. Big deal, they're 100 times brighter and cost 500 times more. There's some common sense for Ya'.
All I have to say is stupid people voting in charlatans into government causes this disaster. I don't think we have a chance. I cannot remember ever losing our freedoms so fast that you can actually tell from one day to the next. A pox on those idiots that voted for Obama and his crew of traitors.
fridge sticky list:
buy better gun
buy more ammo
buy more ammo
Have you been in my kitchen?
The fools at GE who lobbied for the federally mandated light bulb should be tarred and feathered, along with their allies in Congress. Throwing people out of work to outsource jobs to save money, fatten their wallets and produce a potentially unsafe, and expensive product at our expense! The new CFL bulbs are going to bomb! Exposing people, including children to bulbs that have a mercury content is going to result in a first class disaster. I predict there will be thousands and thousands and thousands of complaints, followed by LAW SUITS. This has nothing to do with energy efficiency, and everything to do with greed, profit at the expense of WE THE PEOPLE and TYRANNY! I also suspect there will be an out and out defiance of this stupidity. The arrogant, greedy fools who are behind this will eventually rue the day I suspect.
you don't really think this government cares about your kid's health do ya? after they are putting mercury in the kid's vaccines, and fluoride and chlorine in our drinking water. all are poisons.
a recent German study concluded that CFL's gives off cancer causing chemicals when lit.
Get them out of your house. I never noticed any drop in my electricity bill and the light was inadequate.
Consider the profit on a 1.00 incandescent light and the manufacturing costs. Now consider the profit margin on a 5.00 CFL light or a 50.00 LED light. On top of that, the manufacturing is off-shore (China). Easy to see why the lobbying for this bill by GE.
The NRLB wouldn't touch this one, it would be going after one of the corporate cronies of the administration.
What GE wants….Barry gives them.
You folks on this website should also check this ione out, providing you have not already. It seems as if we have some good cvonservatives here and could use you on this site:
The "WE" are those who have something to gain and nothing to loose. If you can depend on some vote buying, dirt bag politician to give you social security or college tuition when you're in America ilegally why not? It's the system to blame. When you can buy your votes to maintain the power you deem necessary to feel acceptable with yourself, with other peoples money, you automatically create a political group suitable to exist in a toilet bowl.
These light bulbs are dangerous. They contain mercury & if broken you should not get it on you or on any item, have to use a certain cleansing substance & you have to discard them in a closed container, where you put them is beyond me !! When lit they are dim & emits a certain amount of mercury, do not last as long as they advertise,also are expensive !! That is all I know about them.
GE donates millions of dollars to the democratic party. Of course the Obama administration is in the pockets of GE. Obama hired a CEO from GE to his administration, so you can see the writing on the wall ! GE is closing several factories in the USA, moving to China,etc. with laying off hundreds of people. I do not buy anything with GE stamped on it. When I first heard about these new bulbs I bought the old originals & have enough to last me a long time, many people I know did the same thing. This is all about politics, pay back time from the Obama administration !
What president would sell the american people out for his self gain, no one but Obama & the democrat party. Vote these thugs out 2012!! God Bless America !
I think its time we boycott GE. Let them loose money on their products. I personally do not buy GE products and if I must replace lightbulbs then I look for other brands not made by GE and sold under another name.
I propose that we all get together and stage
protests to REFUSE to buy those bulbs. Do NOT
obey those criminals. They want us to buy such
pieces of CRAP at exhorbitant prices. They will do it,but over OUR DEAD BODIES! Fellas, ENOUGH is REALLY ENOUGH! Obama and his Thugs
can go to H—!! This is no longer a nation,
but an INSANE ASYLUM! We refuse to go like
SHEEP to the slaughter! We'd better, or we will die a LIVING death! IMPEACH this TYRANT!!
NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not tomorrow or "in the
near future", but, N-O-W!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I may
be going on a limb, but I will not live like
a SLAVE, again!!!! LIVE FREE, OR DIE!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE FAITH!! God is SOVEREIGN (and ABLE!)!
I have no intention of buying a $50.00 light bulb. I'll use candles if it comes to that. Talk about a prez who puts our country back 200 yrs! Amazing.
Wasn't the former CEO of GE the "new" energy czar for awhile and in charge of the "committee" of experts put together by Obama Baby to "think" of new ways to save energy? Wasn't GE the recipient of 7BIL in interest free loans from the US govt for its "green" programs? Didn't GE own MSNBC and NBC – The propaganda mouthpiece of the DNC -both going broke until mysteriously GE got all of those free loans. Obama is a corrupt hypocrite. Typical Chicago corrupted politics at a national level. If this nation is so stupid to re-elect the Obamas, it deserves to be the 2d rate nation Obama wants it to be.
Keith, RIGHT YOU ARE !! YES,YES,YES on many of your statements ! Like I said this is all about ME,ME,ME. What is in it for my re-election & GAs' tax free stimulus & money ! And the hell with the american people !!!
OOPS, not GAs', I meant GEs'! Sorry !
Call your congressmen, tell them to support and push House Bill H.R. 91 and Senate bill S 395. Have found full text yet, but these appear to repeal the incandescent bulb ban.
look here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:HR00091:
i will not buy anything made by G.E.
Either walk in or go online to Harbor Freight and buy all the incandesants you want to hoard. They sell a rough service bulb "wired" for 130 volts in 75 Watt and 100 Watt. When plugged into 120 volts they burn a little dimmer than normal, but last for years. Screw the marxists. Stock up light bulbs for $2.79 per four pack. That's just a bit over 50 cents a bulb.
Oh, and yes, these are also made in China, don't like that then buy another US brand.
There so many reasons of laws and take
over this Nation that we need to know
why this Congress has not started the
IMPEACMENT OF Obama, Pelosi, Reid, lame
one in the Justice Dept. Vice President
would be out. If the things done by you
here and any other person would have been
Tried and imprisoned for life. We the
the people need to start a call to all
congressman and senate to impeach now.
There are Dem. and Rep who have said
they were for it. Polls came out 60%
Tea Party, 40% Republicans were for it
also. I wish I was 15 years younger I
would be on the street corners with
petitions and huge signs. Donna Crowder
If the new "GE" and "Westinghouse" light bulbs are made in China, then lets just buy generic light bulbs made in China. Bypass GE and Westinghouse to give their stockholders something to think about.
Seems to me that the Federal regulation coupled with the fact that these bulbs are manufactured in China equals Government mandated outsourcing. Next time I hear a Dumbocrat talking about outsourcing I will direct him to Mr Obama.
It is much worse then that if you know what the traitors have really done. What is the vital component of the LED? Too long to explain their plots and Maurice Strong's mocking, follow this if you want to learn how evil they really are.
► Maurice Strong MMT – CCX Al Gore – fleecing your pocket while playing name games.
And on the second day, God said 'Let there be curly, twisty, toxic mercury-laden, fragile, weak, dim light,' and GE bulbs were created, and when God saw this, He said, 'it is good…not great…but good enough.'
And so it was that mankind learned to be patient while the lights warmed up, and it was good. Not great…but good enough.
And on the third day, God said 'let there be a mini-me' to tell the world what to eat, what to drink, how to think, and who will teach us the peaceful religion of Islam. So God told allah to create such a tyrant, and Obama came…and it was a day of rejoice for those that wish to see us dead.
And on the fourth day, God said 'oops…my bad.'
Just one more reason and example why allowing "paid" lobbyists should be illegal!
Any and every citizen has the same constitutional right of access and speech to our elected officials. Having and allowing "paid" lobbyists to bend the ear of our officials for monetary gain is illegal and unconstitutional. All parties involved are criminals and require punishment!
I agree with you completely. Do you feel the same about campaign finance? Billionaires can give as much as they want, hardly seems like the rest of us can compete with that "free speech".
Are you the liberal Dave? Were you thinking about George Soros when you typed that?
I am a liberal and I think there should be limits on what EVERYONE can give. Otherwise the rest of don't matter so much to the politicians.
Dems use hatred, so did Hitler. Repubs will not stoop so low. They respect Dems. McCain is the poster child of Repubs. He is still helping Dems. We compromise they always get half or more. Eventually they have it all. They NEVER compromise. Repubs try to round up thinking people. There aint that many of them to win. We are in the last street fight with a sworn enemy. Repubs say "Play nice" End of the USA?
Have you been reading the post's here? Nothing but pure hatred for 1/2 of the American people!
Did you mean "from" 1/2 the people? We don't hate 1/2 the people, just the high percentage of liberal politicians that are so evil they want to destroy this country.
Maybe you don't but most here hate those of us that vote liberal also.
So much for creating jobs!
Wow, you people are horribly uninformed. I have LEDs in my house now, they are way better than incandescants. That $50 price Glenn Beck is scaring you with is only 1 example, there are different bulbs at different price points, and more new ones coming on the market right now that are cheaper, and the prices will only continue to drop with mass production. But even so, they already pay for themselves in about 1 year from the energy savings.
And even if you use CFLs and throw every one of them in the landfill the amount of mercury pollution will be less than if you use incandescants, because the largest source of mercury comes from power plants, which will be net less if you use CFLs instead of incandescants. The idiots buying up incandescants are just costing themselves more money and causing our illness rates to remain high, hahahaha.
You folks might want to try looking into this stuff yourselves, and get some actual facts, instead of blindly believing what your corporate media overlords tell you to think. Just a suggestion!
Terpestar – a sane voice in the looney bin!
A couple of years ago I bought some LED bulbs at Costco and Walmart in the $15 price range. Then no one had them for a year or two. Now Costco has some, I think in the $40+ range. If Home Depot has any, they are either close to $50, or are just little ones. Beck wasn't trying to scare anyone, just giving some facts that you can check out at the store yourself.
All of this just proves that the commie democrats and the fascist repubs are just flip sides of the same statist coin. Capitalism as it is now practiced has nothing to do with a "free market" as our founders envisioned, but is all monopolized and state controlled, really little different from corporate communism. Study the Hegelian Dialectic to see what's really being done to us, and how.
What there not telling that is the compact flouresent bulbs are loaded with lithium and Mercury. The are not green or safe. They have been known to explode.
If you really want to be freaked out, check out the book "The Coming Collision" by James Hirsen (1999). It's hard to come by–Amazon has copies. This will amaze you–Hirsen takes all from a historic perspective about the takeover of this country and it includes chapters such as Paganism Repackaged, The Great Environmental Pretext, Property Owners, An Endangered Species, etc. Have you heard about the Wildlands Project–taking more than 50% of our U.S. land for a large wildlife preserve — where only animals can live–humans cant' enter? Or World Heritage Sites–where (as of 1999) twenty sites are under the United Nations where international law defeats federal states' sovereignty? (Clinton did this). THE GOAL IS ONE WORLD RELIGION, ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ONE WORLD ECONOMY, etc.
Please open your mouths to everyone you know or we are going to lose all our freedoms and we will not have our Constitution to protect us. And by the way, I agree with a high percentage of your comments–be courageous and fight this horrible Marxist regime.God Bless America!!
That would be Awesome! A nature reserve where people cannot go. Too bad it's not true.
Dave, In California many areas have had access blocked by the Feds. The excuse is to save it for future generations. Why do they deserve to see it anymore than we do? Some areas you can hike into,if you are in your 20's, want to camp along the trail/road and have a week to waste just to see one area. These areas already have roads,we just aren't allowed to us them anymore.
they can take those bulbs and shove them up thier ass.
they can stick those bulbs up thier ass.
They say that Obama's mento George Soros is the most dangerous man in America…..From what I have read I am a true beleiver that he indeed is!
I think the most dangerous thing in America is ignorance.
I think the most dangerous thing in America is our abandonment of God and ignorance of His dealings with His creation through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. Rom. 1:18-32
I know – there is a lot of misinformation in these comments. People need to research better.
If those american light bulb workers would be willing to sleep on dirt floors and shiit in the river for a toilet, then they could compete with GE's Mexican workers who will still be making lots of incandescents. It's just a handful of incandescents being eliminated. Many other types of incan's will still be made for many years…( a lightbulb salesman)
I do not think our votes are going to matter once again, far to many dead people and cartoon figures voted in Obamaommunist first election without challenge. Voters were intimidated in front of polling locations and it was deemed acceptable by the administration.
Now we have a new set of laws that will reward China with jobs that started here, but that was not enough for his new campaign funding so he opened the doors here for them to visit:
This is why we must flush the government down the sewer. They take care of big business and screw the people they lied to to get their votes. Also it should be against the law for anyone to accept any donations fro any big business especially money from overseas like Obama did from Middle East countries,to run for President because they do expect preferred treatment and to get tax breaks and other favors so they will get even more rich.
One other thing I heard is that these compact fluorescent lightbulbs give off poisonous vapors while in operation. Incandesants do not. I am going to stock up on as many incandesants as I can so I will not have to buy those other bulbs for quite a while. To hell with GE. We should stop buying their products and get them from someone else. Big business, thats who runs this country. Has any one ever heard of any son or daughter of a big business man or woman of any member of a rich family getting killed in combat???? Strange, neither have I. That would make the news I'm sure.
We are counting on bankruptcy to save our economy! We look to prosper without liberty!
We ignore sound political thinking….. (the constitution)We overlook self-service representatives and hope for honesty! I look at our flag and sadly ask……why?
How is mercury poisoning, coming soon to a stream near you thanks to landfills, better than Edison light bulbs?
Meanwhile the Patriots are going back to candles.
You people are too stupid for words. Using a piece of hot wire to make light. Wasting your money.
As we all know there is a direct connection between Obama & GE.
Take a look at how powerful & rich this evil empire is.
General Electric………………….
Military Production: Manufactures and maintains engines for the F-16 Fighter jet, Abrams tank, Apache helicopter, U2 Bomber, Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV), A-10 aircraft, and numerous military equipment including planes, helicopters, tanks, and more.
Parks: Universal Studios Theme Parks and Resorts (Orlando, FL; Hollywood, CA; Costa Durada, Spain; Universal City, Japan)
Consumer Products: NBC Stores, ShopNBC (partial), GE Industrial (Formerly, GE Consumer and Industrial), AETN Consumer Products (37.5% equity).
General Electric……….
• GE Commercial Finance: GE Capital Aviation Services, GE Commercial Equipment Financing, GE Corporate Financial Services, GE Structured Finance Global Energy Unit, GE Fleet Services, GE Healthcare Financial Services, GE Real Estate, GE Vendor Financial Services.
• GE Consumer & Industrial (appliances, lighting, and Industrial Systems).
• GE Healthcare (diagnostic and interventional medical imaging, information and services technology)
• GE Infrastructure (comprised of GE Water Technologies, GE Silicones, GE Superabrasives, and GE Quartz, commercial aviation financing, and serves various industries including cosmetics, semi-conductors, oil drilling, construction and telecommunications)
• GE Money
General Electric……………..
Television networks: NBC Networks, Telemundo, Ion Media (partial stake).
Cable: NBC Entertainment, NBC News, NBC Sports, NBC Television, NBC Universal, CNBC, CNBC World (Arabia, India, Asia, Europe), MSNBC, Bravo, SyFy Channel, Telemundo, USA, Oxygen, Weather Plus, Mun2, Sleuth, Chiller, Universal HD, A&E Networks (16%; includes A&E, the History Channel, History en español, the Biography Channel, Military History Channel, Crime & Investigation Network, A&E HD, the History Channel HD, History International), the Weather Channel (partial), SyFy Channel HD.
Production and distribution companies: NBC Universal Television Distribution, Universal Media Studios
26 television stations, owned under the "NBC Universal" division. These include NBC affiliates, 46 stations, Telemundo affiliates, and a small number of independents.
International Channels: 13eme Rue (France), 13th Street (Germany), Studio Universal (Germany), Sci-fi Channel (Germany), Calle 13 (Spain), Sci Fi Channel UK, Movies 24 (UK), DivaTV (UK), Studio Universal (Italy), Universal Channel (Latin America), CNBC Asia, CNBC Europe, 18 Hallmark Channels (worldwide), KidsCo (worldwide, partial).
Programming: NBC Network News, NBC Universal Global Networks, NBC Universal International Channels, The Today Show, NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams, Dateline NBC, Meet the Press, Early Today, CNBC, Squawk Box, Mad Money, CNBC World, CNBC Arabia, CNBC-India TV-18, Hardball with Chris Matthews, the Rita Cosby Specials Unit, Morning Joe, Mun2, Sleuth, A&E [partial], the History Channel [partial], the Biography Channel (partial), ShopNBC (27%).
Production: NBC Universal (80% ownership): Universal Pictures, Focus Features, Rogue Pictures. Universal has production agreements with Imagine Entertainment, Jersey Films, Tribeca Films, Shady Acres, the Kennedy/Marshall Company, Playtone Company, Strike Entertainment, Type A Films, Depth of Field, Stephen Sommers and Working Title Films (Europe).
Distribution: Universal Studios Home Entertainment.
NBC.com, CNBC.com, iVillage.com, Scifi.com, telemundo.com, nbc.com, hulu.com (a joint venture between NBC Universal and News Corp.), Bravotv.com, Triotv.com, msnbc.msn.com, nbcolympics.com, ShopNBC.com. Partial: aetv.com, biography.com, historychannel.com, military.history.com, Thehistoryhcannelclub.com, Historytravel.com, Newsvine.com.
General Electric……………………
2009 Revenues: $157 billion
General Electric media-related holdings include television networks NBC and Telemundo, Universal Pictures, Focus Features, 26 television stations in the United States and cable networks MSNBC, Bravo and the Sci Fi Channel. GE also owns 80 percent of NBC Universal.
The first portion of this page is devoted to organizations that are funded directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI). The second portion of the page focuses on organizations which do not receive direct funding from Soros and OSI, but which receive money from one or more groups that do get direct OSI funding.
Organizations Funded Directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute.
Organizations that, in recent years, have received direct funding and assistance from George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI) include the following. (Comprehensive profiles of each are available in the "Groups" section of DiscoverTheNetworks.org):
● Air America Radio
● All of Us or None
● Alliance for Justice
● America Coming Together
● America Votes
● America's Voice
● American Bar Association Commission on Immigration Policy
● American Civil Liberties Union
● American Constitution Society for Law and Policy
● American Family Voices
● American Federation of Teachers
● American Friends Service Committee
● American Immigration Council
● American Immigration Law Foundation
● American Institute for Social Justice
● American Library Association
● The American Prospect, Inc.
● Amnesty International
● Arab American Institute
● Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
● Bill of Rights Defense Committee
● Brennan Center for Justice
● Brookings Institution
● Campaign for America's Future
● Campaign for Better Health Care
● Campus Progress
● Casa de Maryland
● Catalist
● Catholics for Choice
● Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good
● Center for American Progress
● Center for Community Change
● Center for Constitutional Rights
● Center for Economic and Policy Research
● Center for Reproductive Rights
● Center for Responsible Lending
● Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
● Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS)
● Change America Now
● Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington
● Code Pink
● Coalition for an International Criminal Court
● Common Cause
● Communist Party USA (CPUSA.ORG)
● Constitution Project
● Defenders of Wildlife
● Democracy Alliance
● Democracy 21
● Democracy Now
● Democratic Justice Fund
● Democratic Party
● Earth Justice
● Electronic Privacy Information Center
● Ella Baker Center for Human Rights
● EMILY's List
● Energy Action Coalition
● Fact check
● Fair Immigration Reform Movement
● Faithful America
● Feminist Majority
● Four Freedoms Fund
● Fox
● Free Exchange on Campus
● Free Press
● Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting
● Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
● Global Exchange
● Health Care for America Now
● Human Rights Campaign
● Human Rights First
● Human Rights Watch
● Revolutionary Communist Party
● Pacifica Radio
● Funding Exchange
● Social Justice
● Gamaliel Foundation
● Gisha: Center for the Legal Protection of Freedom of Movement
● Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect
● Global Exchange
● Grantmakers Without Borders
● Green For All
● I'lam
● Immigrant Defense Project
● Immigrant Legal Resource Center
● Immigrant Workers Citizenship Project
● Immigration Policy Center
● Independent Media Center
● Independent Media Institute
● Institute for America's Future
● Institute for New Economic Thinking
● Institute for Policy Studies
● Institute for Public Accuracy
● Institute for Women's Policy Research
● International Crisis Group
● J Street
● Jewish Funds for Justice
● Joint Victory Campaign 2004
● LatinoJustice PRLDF
● Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law
● League of United Latin American Citizens
● League of Women Voters
● Malcolm X Grassroots Movement
● Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition
● Media Fund
● Media Matters for America
● Democracy Alliance
● Mercy Corps
● Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund
● Meyer, Suozzi, English and Klein, PC
● Midwest Academy
● Migration Policy Institute
● Military Families Speak Out
● Mother Jones Magazine
● MoveOn.org
● Ms. Foundation for Women
● NARAL Pro-Choice America
● The Nation Institute
● National Abortion Federation
● National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
● National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy
● National Committee for Voting Integrity
● National Council for Research of Women
● National Council of La Raza
● National Council of Women's Organizations
● National Immigration Forum
● National Immigration Law Center
● National Lawyers Guild
● National Organization for Women
● National Partnership for Women and Families
● National Priorities Project
● National Public Radio
● National Security Archive Fund
● National Women's Law Center
● Natural Resources Defense Council
● New America Foundation
● New York Times
● North American Man/Boy Love Association
● Pacifica Foundation
● Pacifica Radio
● Peace and Security Funders Group
● Peace Development Fund
● People for the American Way
● Physicians for Human Rights
● Physicians for Social Responsibility
● Planned Parenthood
● Ploughshares Fund
● Presidential Climate Action Project
● Prison Moratorium Project
● Progressive Change Campaign Committee
● Progressive States Network
● Project Vote
● Pro Publica
● Proteus Fund:
● Public Citizen Foundation
● Rebuild and Renew America Now
● Res Publica
● Secretary of State Project
● Sentencing Project
● Shadow Democratic Party
● Snopes
● Sojourners
● Southern Poverty Law Center
● The American Prospect, Inc
● The Nation Institute
● Think Progress
● Thunder Road Group
● Truth or Fiction
● Tides Foundation
● Tides Center
● U.S. Public Interest Research Group
● Universal Healthcare Action Network
● Urban Institute
● USAction
● Wikipedia
● Working Families Party
● World Organization Against Torture:
"Secondary" or "Indirect" Affiliates of the George Soros Network.
By Discover The Networks
In addition to those organizations that are funded directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI), there are also numerous "secondary" or "indirect" affiliates of the Soros network. These include organizations which do not receive direct funding from Soros and OSI, but which are funded by one or more organizations that do.
• Center for Progressive Leadership: Funded by the Soros-bankrolled Democracy Alliance, this anti-capitalist organization is dedicated to training future leftist political leaders.
• John Adams Project:This project of the American Civil Liberties Union was accused of: (a) having hired investigators to photograph CIA officers thought to have been involved in enhanced interrogations of terror suspects detained in Guantanamo, and then (b) showing the photos to the attorneys of those suspects, some of whom were senior al-Qaeda operatives.
• Moving Ideas Network (MIN): This coalition of more than 250 leftwing activist groups is a partner organization of the Soros-backed Center for American Progress. MIN was originally a project of the Soros-backed American Prospect and, as such, received indirect funding from the Open Society Institute. In early 2006, The American Prospect relinquished control of the Moving Ideas Network.
• New Organizing Institute: Created by the Soros-funded MoveOn.org, this group "trains young, technology-enabled political organizers to work for progressive campaigns and organizations."
• Think Progress: This "project" of the American Progress Action Fund, which is a "sister advocacy organization"of the Soros-funded Center for American Progress and Campus Progress, seeks to transform "progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world."
• Vote for Change: Coordinated by the political action committee of the Soros-funded MoveOn.org, Vote for Change was a group of 41 musicians and bands that performed concerts in several key election "battleground"states during October 2004, to raise money in support of Democrat John Kerry's presidential bid.
• Working Families Party: Created in 1998 to help push the Democratic Party toward the left, this front group for the Soros-funded ACORN functions as a political party that promotes ACORN-friendly candidates.
There are some really good organizations in there. That George Soros seems to be a very kind man.
Boycott every thing G.E., Boycott every thing Connected in any way with George Sorros, Nanci Pelosi and all the other socialist purveyors of treason. Boycott, boycott, boycott Divest, divest, divest, and then boycott some more. Actions speak louder than words. Do it NOW!
Well – I think you need to boycott the internet then. Bye.
If one of these forced light bulbs brake's, you can not clean the mess up completely the only way to get the carsenagins out of your house it to call the EPA and have them to clean the powder up. Costing thousdans of dollars
Folks, I you break a CFL bulb, don't panic. Anyone over about 50 or 60 years old played with mercury as a kid. We would rub it on pennies and they would shine better than a new dime. Near here a couple years ago, a kid spilled some mercury on the floor of a middle school. They evacuated, had all the kids go through a spray tent naked, and threw out $50 shoes that might have stepped on the mercury in the carpet. At my 50Th class reunion I asked, and nobody had any ill effects from the mercury. 79% of the graduating class was at the reunion,10.5% didn't make the trip, and 10.5% were dead, only one of them from cancer.
I am more worried about the expense of these new bulbs coming out in January next year. The 100 watt "green" bulbs will be $50.00 bucks each and the 75 watt will be $40.00 to $45.00. I have stocked up on the old bulbs! The Government can shove their bulbs where the sun don't shine!
We are bying 20-30 incandescent bulbs a week for use until the "green" bulbs get cheaper.
I'm gonna go to Canada and smuggle back a large tank flush toilet so I don't have to flush three times in like I do withe the Algore Throne.
I agree with you. I used to play with mercury as a kid too. Those bulb aren't as energy efficient as they say either and some make an awful lot of noise. I prefer the tried and true incandescent bulbs over the new curly bulbs any day.
I am a Latino And am a republican and have a few Black brothers who are also republicans.
Just because we are who we are doesn't mean we are Obama supporters! Our faters and brothers died in World War 2 and Viet Nam we didn't ask for these wars but we stood and fought when we were asked too. I also see illegals coming and taking our jobs! How can i compete when I have to buy insurance and pay out the wazoo to run a painting company when these ilegals come under bid me for jobs do not pay any insurances any taxes for they're companys! They work cheaper because they are given everything free and so many people feel bad for them! I also hear " I hired them because i felt sorry for them don't they relize these ilegals don't give a dam about America or they would pay taxes pay for their education and everything else!
So who ever you are throwing bricks at us we are not a bunch of sheep following a liar!
Family came here legally and have fought in all the wars that America has been through!
sincerely A Proud legal American ( Hispanic)
The GE company is a commie company and thier ceo is the head commie. all america should boycot this company
Sites like this one rarely tell you what you can do to stop bad things from happening. They should have a list of all senators and reps from all states and tell you to write and call them all and tell them what you think. We must do all of the things that the socialist people did to get votes, right or wrong. We need a leader. the media is controlled by the same people who are ruining our country. We must dismantle the media by any means necessary. Research Rothschilds and Bilderburg, lets get educated.
this is just another way for the government to make job's becouse after everyone has to us these lights they will have to have people go out and make sure they are not hurting the earth. the'll be killing the people from all the things in them
(This Story is Incredible).
I was at the corner grocery store buying some early potatoes… I noticed a small boy, delicate of bone and feature, ragged but clean, hungrily apprising a basket of freshly picked green peas.
I paid for my potatoes but was also drawn to the display of fresh green peas. I am a pushover for creamed peas and new potatoes.
Pondering the peas, I couldn't help overhearing the conversation between Mr. Miller (the store owner) and the ragged boy next to me.
'Hello Barry, how are you today?'
'H'lo, Mr. Miller. Fine, thank ya. Jus' admirin' them peas. They sure look good.'
'They are good, Barry. How's your Ma?'
'Fine. Gittin' stronger alla' time.'
'Good. Anything I can help you with?'
'No, Sir. Jus' admirin' them peas.'
'Would you like to take some home?' asked Mr. Miller.
'No, Sir. Got nuthin' to pay for 'em with.'
'Well, what have you to trade me for some of those peas?'
'All I got's my prize marble here.'
'Is that right? Let me see it', said Miller.
'Here 'tis. She's a dandy.'
'I can see that. Hmm mmm, only thing is this one is blue and I sort of go for red. Do you have a red one like this at home?' the store owner asked.
'Not zackley but almost.'
'Tell you what. Take this sack of peas home with you and next trip this way let me look at that red marble'. Mr. Miller told the boy.
'Sure will. Thanks Mr. Miller.'
Mrs. Miller, who had been standing nearby, came over to help me.
With a smile she said, 'There are two other boys like him in our community, all three are in very poor circumstances. Jim just loves to bargain with them for peas, apples, tomatoes, or whatever.
When they come back with their red marbles, and they always do, he decides he doesn't like red after all and he sends them home with a bag of produce for a green marble or an orange one, when they come on their next trip to the store.'
I left the store smiling to myself, impressed with this man. A short time later I moved to Colorado , but I never forgot the story of this man, the boys, and their bartering for marbles.
Several years went by, each more rapid than the previous one. Just recently I had occasion to visit some old friends in that Idaho community and while I was there learned that Mr. Miller had died. They were having his visitation that evening and knowing my friends wanted to go, I agreed to accompany them. Upon arrival at the mortuary we fell into line to meet the relatives of the deceased and to offer whatever words of comfort we could.
Ahead of us in line were three young men. One was in an army uniform and the other two wore nice haircuts, dark suits and white shirts…all very professional looking. They approached Mrs. Miller, standing composed and smiling by her husband's casket.
Each of the young men hugged her, kissed her on the cheek, spoke briefly with her and moved on to the casket. Her misty light blue eyes followed them as, one by one; each young man stopped briefly and placed his own warm hand over the cold pale hand in the casket. Each left the mortuary awkwardly, wiping his eyes..
Our turn came to meet Mrs. Miller. I told her who I was and reminded her of the story from those many years ago and what she had told me about her husband's bartering for marbles. With her eyes glistening, she took my hand and led me to the casket.
'Those three young men who just left were the boys I told you about.
They just told me how they appreciated the things Jim 'traded' them. Now, at last, when Jim could not change his mind about color or size….they came to pay their debt.'
'We've never had a great deal of the wealth of this world,' she confided, 'but right now, Jim would consider himself the richest man in Idaho ..'
With loving gentleness she lifted the lifeless fingers of her deceased husband. Resting underneath were three exquisitely shined red marbles.
The Moral:
We will not be remembered by our words, but by our kind deeds.
I can see the senario now. It's 2014, and the Light Bulb Police are at my door. Right behind them are the Gun Police, the Health Care Police, the Garden Police, the Obese School Children Police ( Under President Michelle Obama's (God forbid!!)leadership) the Clean Air Police and the Green Police…ETC. Well you get the picture.
They are going to tell what kind of light bulbs we can use, what kind of appliances we can use, what health care we "need", what your kids can eat, what kind of vehicle you can drive, that you can't grow any food in tour garden, that they better not find any guns in you home and you had better be "politically correct" in anything you say.
After they do away with the 2ND Ammendment, the next to go will be the 1ST, the 4TH, the 5TH, 6TH 7TH,8TH,9TH,10TH,12TH,and the22ND. Essentually, they are going to do away with our Constitution. I hope i'm not still around when all of this takes place. Socialism is they way we are headed and it's not for me our anyone else I know.
Anyway, back to light bulbs.
I quit buying GE's light bulbs about 6 or 7 years ago because their bulbs were only lasting about 2 weeks to a month each. Our power company sent us a free twisty flourscent bulb that i replaced one of GE's bulbs with. It lasted almost five years. So i replaced almost all of the 56 light bulbs at our house with the new kind. Now, instead of replacing 48 bulbs a month at an average of $1.20 each (about $576.00 yr.) we replace maybe 10 in a year at $1.98 each. About $20.00 a year.
Now the Green Police are telling you & me that we will have to use only bulbs they specify. GE is going to manufacture these in China, taking more American jobs away. These bulbs will cost somewhere between $15.00 and $50.00 each. Wow! Even with .30 cent a hour Chinese labor.
We have got to replace Obama and his Czars with a legitiment administration in 2012 to get our "TOO BIG" Government in line to further our great country's life. If not, kiss it goodbye.
I get a sick feeling thinking of what will come next after the new type light bulb
mandate. Can we get through what happens to
us until the Obama administration can be
replaced?? HOPEFULLY in the 2012 election.
I am buying a lifetime amount of standard light bulbs now. The new type do not react to dimmer switches or operate as the 3-way bulbs I now use. Come and get me cops.
If the predicted solar flare happen as predicted by Michio Kaku: Massive solar flare in the years 2012/2013 could throw us back 100 years. Light bulbs will be the least of our worries. I am buying candles!
Good for you Kevin. If you can, get off the grid. I'm working on it now. Good luck.
This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry.The man who walks with God always gets to his destination.If you have a pulse you have a purpose. The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the minority races!! Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.I was particularly interested in what the Islamic had to say. The Muslim gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video.After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Muslim and asked: 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?'There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers!' I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?' The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar.'He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.'I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine The Pope commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr.Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!' The Muslim was speechless! I continued, 'I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question: Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?' You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with my way of dealing with the Islamic Imam, and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President! I think everyone in the U.S. should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference… In the name of JESUS CHRIST….SEND THIS ON . .
The Palestinian Authority passed a law last month granting all PA residents and Israeli Arabs imprisoned by Israel for terror crimes a monthly salary, Palestinian Media Watch reports.
According to PMW, the PA has defined by law which residents and Israeli Arabs would be deemed "prisoners" as "Anyone imprisoned in the occupation's [Israel's] prisons as a result of his participation in the struggle against the occupation."
In other words, all PA residents in Israeli prisons for terror crimes are officially added to the PA payroll. According to the definition in the PA law, PA car thieves in Israeli prisons will not receive a salary, but Hamas and Fatah terrorist murderers will.
The PA also gives a salary to Israeli Arabs convicted of terror crimes against Israel – the country of which they are citizens. PA benefits to Israeli Arab terrorists, in fact, are greater than the ones extended to PA resident terrorists.
Additionally, those serving more than 20-year sentences will receive a greater PA salary than prisoners serving shorter sentences, the new PA law establishes. Salaries are to be paid from the day of arrest until release.
More than 6,000 Palestinian prisoners are currently serving time in Israeli prisons for terror-related offenses, PMW says.
Among those now eligible are Abdullah Barghouti, serving 67 life sentences; Hassan Salameh, serving 38 life sentences; and Jamal Abu Al-Hijja, serving nine life sentences, all of whom are imprisoned for planning suicide bombings – three terrorists PMW recently reported as being called "heroic" by the official PA daily.
Who's Paying?
PMW noted the new PA law stipulates that payment of salaries "will be implemented… on the basis of available sources of funding." When the PA is short of cash for salaries, the salaries to the prisoners will be cut.
The PA has reported that the US, the EU, France, Britain, Ireland, Norway, Japan, India and the World Bank have all given money to the PA for its general budget in 2010-2011.
Such direct funding could be part of the "available sources" for terrorist salaries, or could free money elsewhere in the PA budget that could be used for these salaries, PMW says.
The list provided by PMW is not exhaustive as it relies solely on reports in the official PA daily. The PA receives financial aid from many other donors as well.
Recently, the EU announced the transfer of 45 million euros to the PA for salaries: "Some EUR 45 million of the funds from today's decision will go towards salaries and pensions of vital workers, mainly doctors, nurses and teachers."
In November 2010, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced the transfer of an additional grant to the PA's general budget: "After the transfer of the $150 million, the sum which the American administration will have transferred as direct budgetary aid to the PA for 2010 totals $225 million."
Although the EU, US and other donors are not intentionally funding salaries for terrorists, PMW says, their funding of other PA salaries and the budget makes money available in the general budget to pay terrorist salaries.
This Palestinian Authority law was enacted before the recent Fatah-Hamas reconciliation agreement. It was published in the official PA Registry on April 13, 2011.
So now, in the name of green progress, we will all have to endure the harsh white, headache producing light from compact flourescents.
Never mind that each new bulb contains a droplet of toxic mercury.
Never mind that billions of these expired bulbs will find their way into the environment, via landfills and dumps. The mercury from which, will cause untolled damage, birth defects and toxisity in our land and water supply.
It's OK, cause Jeffrey Immelt, pres. of GE and friend and major contributor to Obummer's campaign, will get to charge five times more for a light bulb, which will make billions in profit for GE.
Then, he will be able to donate even more millions to Obummer's 2012 reelection campaign.
Are we having fun yet???
We have got to replace our legislatures with people who have some integrity. And oh they have already done away with the 10th.
I've been stock piling them myself. I figure black market bulbs might be a thing of the future.
Screw the regulators.
The feds suck at catching many criminals committing serious crimes (Look at whitey Bulger:)I hardly think they'd risk the recources on a few light bulbs.
I also support the Idea of bouycotting.
But there are other ways to stand up to the socialist agenda and multi conglomerates who offshore their labor and abuse peoples rights in other countries. .
Guys like Dwayne Madigan and his employees are the back bone of not only our economy but this country as a whole and need more than boycotting as support.
These Guys need financing to become independant and produce a product with fewer regulations and possibly a better product line.
As long as guys like Dwayne are willing to maintain a US work force and treat their employees well (non union preferably as it would drive down consumer cost.)Then I my self as I hope others would be willing to assist in financing through standard corperate investment practices.
I would suggest to Mr Madigan that LED bulbs seem to be the future. Perhaps they would not have the longevity of florescent but can be cheaply made and have considerably lower environmental impact. I can live with a bulb with a shorter life span. Planned obsolescence has a purpose. It keeps people employed.
I keep reading you gut posts and there is one comon miguided theme.That Obama is responsible for the bulb swap.
I am no fan of Obama by any measure But you guys need to get your facts straight.
That legislation happened during the Bush adminastration.
(I'm not a fan of him eithor.)
Spelling error. That was supposed to be "you guys."
My bad.
Perhaps I should wear my glasses when I post.
Proof reading and a dictionary might also be good ideas.
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