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assau County Review FREEPORT, N. Y., FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6,1916 Vol. XX, No. 40 Freeport Methodists In Conference i I The Joint Quarterly Conference and Binale copiM of Ihe Review for nale at Green- ! Work«rs' Convention of the Metliodist noff°>. Namau Coanty Review, <k)b«t»'», Uain Street; Sidney Smith's Merrick Road. 'weiit ternoon and evening in the Freeport ! M. E. Church was a rousing success. Rowland H. Mayland Passes Away Social and Personal ef l(«tn> CoDcerninK Reiident* of Our Ce mun-ty, and Their CactU, VUiU and Social Affain Merrick Belimore Roosevelt Thiscolamn laedited b.y Kev. W H. Litiebramdt and all items ahould be aent to him to inaure in- ; sertion under thie heatjinir. HIGHWATEK HUE TABLE (Official figures for Sandy Hook) Friday Oct. Saturday, Sunday Mondav Tueaday, Wednesday. Thursday, Friday Saturday, 6 7 8 9 U) 11 :2 13 14 3:40 p. 4 :44 p. 5:43 p. 6:16 p. 7:05 p. 7;50 p. 8 :33 p. 9:16 p. 9:69 p. m m m m m ra m m m Rowiand H. Mayland, vice presi- Hunt.—Mr. and Mrs. Fred V. Hunt in point of attendance, interest and dent of the Board of Education of the have returned to Iheir home in Brook ¦ enthusiasm Bishjp Luther B. Wil precport Schools, died at his hon-.e at ^^" "^^^^ T"'^'v^i ^'^"^ '''""o' "^^'^ son was actively assisted hy Rev. A. .. . "_ ^ ^ r, , ,, . Mr. and Mrs. T.J. Moran, Harrison I S. Kavanagh, District Superintendent "am Street and Randall A venue, early Avenue. lof the Brooklyn South District, incon this morning, after a long illness, i j ducting the convention. ! Funeral services will be held Sundhy Rev. George Adams for the clergy ' evening Ht 8 p. m. from his late home, and William'j .Miiler for the laymen . .. - , . n u • r- I 1 .u , . -»u i; "....: and the interment wi 1 be in Evergreen I opened the interest with a discussion >=i|(,ictij lof "PersoHhl I'repuration for Spiritual Cen:ettr;; Monday morning. Woik," trd were followed I'y Alfred I P. Sloan on "The Quartetly Conftr- Frank Robert, is our representative in Bellmore and vicinity. All ordera and news left with him will receive the same careful attention as at our office. Frank S. Snekeker, Jr.. our authorixed senutive. is in this viilase every Tueaday, will be plea^^ed to receive apeciai items, appointments for calling for same. | Miss May Tween entertained a large majority of the members of the Hand- Grace Etangelical Lutheran Chorch. I si",i, copies of the n.,"u Co.mty Re»i« paster, William Steinbicker. The sale at Mr*. S. Nathans store, Nassau Road. Murray. —Mr. and .Mrs. Roberi. J. Murray have removed fo Geneva, N. Y. Mr. Murray has been employed at j .r • j ¦ .i_ ht- thf Rockville Centre Ohserv,-.r and has P°0' ""J suffering, during the Winter secured a position in th= same lirie sta "'*"''"^- tlis n-'W home. in>Hand League at her home iast Mon- church is located on Bellmore Avenue, darevening, October 2. The young , near Logue Street. Bible School ev- ladiea were very happy to resume | gry Sunday at 9:30 a. m. Service their work after a long Su<: mer vaca-; next Sunday at 10:45 a.m. October tion, and ha»e found many new ways! 15, service at 4 :00 p. m. The class of bringing joy to the hearts of the for the study of the catechism will Ur. and Mrs. D. Fulton Avenue bave port. W. Edwards moved to Mr. and Mrs. Charles K. Hnmakl and family of Woods Avenue bat moved in one of fcidward Gombert*! houses on Charles Street. Around the Town The management of the Freeport Open Air Theatre opposite the Review office ha;e taken over tha former Crys tal Theatre and open<;:l it as the Free- port Theatre for the Winter season. Edward Favenza, the bandmaster and musician, haa moved to 6(5 Victoria St., .Jamaica, where he has opened the Favenza Conservatory of Music. The concert which was to have been held by Mr. Fnvenza and his pupils in Brookiyn Hall on .luly 14, and was postponed because of the many cases of "polio," will be held on Friday, December 8. Ience. Its Purposes and Possibilities," land William N. Ridge on "The Re¬ sponsibility ot Official Position." The I keynote of the work and talk of the 'day was the largo banner over thp al- Itar: j OUR DISTRICT MOTTO A Revival in Every Church ! A Urviva! uf ! Patriotism I Church Going ' Conversions I Child Training Church Loyalty Loyalty to Chriat i From 3:30 to 4:15 there waa a dis¬ cuasion on "Departmental AcMvities To Entertain Governor Whitman It is the cxfiicotution of the Repub¬ lican County '^(immittee to have Gov- eriicir Wiiitman on long I.oland the week of October 15, probably on Sat- Ufday, October 21, and to have him at Fraeport at 6 o'clock, when he and his statf will be entertained by a gpecial committee from the Freeport Hughes- Paifbanks Ca-npaign Cluh at dinner, ut the Elk.if Club House. Keegan. —.Mr. 8;id .Mrn. J. Morton Keegan of Gold Street celebrated their iifteenth wtdding antiiversary Satur¬ day evening. They rc-cei/cd many cut glosH gifts. Dancing and music furn¬ ished tile evening's amu3emeiits. The florhl dtcorations were roses and chrys¬ anthemums.—Times. headciuarters, and a rally *ill be held at the American Thestrf, where Gov- Charles -''e-guaon was fined $5 ny | by Rev. Frank Wade Smith, on Sun- «¦•"'"• Whitman will be the first sp^ ak¬ in iorF^inlforviolatL Section 61 ' d«.v School Work in the New York i e'".."" » big program. The Governor Judge Hint tor violating section bl, • , j^,,, ^^ Lawrence after speaking in subd. H of the new traffic ordinances, »'tu, Kev victor tj. mins, on ine p ^ ^-, ** ! Epworth League, nrrd ivliss Jessie E. rreepori. : Arbuckle on "Women'a Work." \ These plans are tentative, and sub j The time from 4:15 to 4:45 was de } ject to such change as may bpnon,e 'voted to "Administration and F'in inecess'^ry. ance," with talks on "Business Meth- I ods in the Church," by Frank A. Iioint; "The Underpaid Minister," by Kev. Mr. l/avison, sub.itituting for who was unable to be Smith. —Miss Miriam-Smith, young- Gift daui/hter of Mr. and .Mrs. C. D. Smith of West Merrick Road, is now attending Randolph-.Vlacon Woman's following the dinii<^r, an inforrn»r Collcp e at Lynchburp-, Vr., one ofthe ipcfptiini is to be held at the club leading colleges in the United States , forwomen. Miss Smith was graduated "'"'"'y ^^'°'''' Services at the Church of the Re¬ deemer Sonday, the Sixteenth After Trinity, at 7.30 and II o'clock A. M. and 8 o'clock P. M. Celebration of the Holy Communion^at the early ser¬ vice ancl Morning Prayer and sermon at the 11 o'clock service. The Son- day School meets in the Parish House at 10 A. M. The Wonian's Auxiliary to the Board of Missions meets week¬ ly in the Parish House on Thursdays meet for orgar.ization Tuesday, Octob* er 10, at 4:0U p. m. The monthly business meeting of the Parish Aid So :iety will take place next Thursday I William Fox will present Thi afternoon at the chapel. Every one ' Bara in a tive reel drama, "Deatr IS cordially invited to all our meetings tion," at the Royal Theatre Saturdi aiid services. I evening, October 7. I will also be shown. Other pictUT Services at the M. E. Cburch every Sunday morning at 10:30, evening at 7:45; preaching by the pastor. Rev, B. F. Ray. All are welcome to these services; Sunday School at 2:3ii A fair and supper under the auspices at 2.30 P. M. The Boy Scouts mei-t , of the Ladies' Aid Society wiil be held on Wednesday at 7.30 P. M. A cor-1 ;" the church on Friday evening of dial invitation is extended to all to next week. The fair will be opened ,, ^, , p o u attend the .=ervices of this church and ; at 3 o'clock and supper wil! be served , "'*'"''^' ^^ ^'""¦'''' ^' ^^^^' to become identified with its com- from 6:00 to 8:30. Charles DeLap has opened hl| bowling Hileys, corner .Mansfield Av« nue and Nassau Road, for the Winta season. Mr. and Mrs. Reading, former!] residents of Washington Street, hav moved into a house on Henry Stree in June as a member ot 1916. the Class of Next Saturday is the first of the two F. M.l'ownley and familjii registration uays in all election dis- Village Trustees A strong effort is being made to so lights on the "silent policeman.' To Our Contributors and Advertisers Next Thursday, October 12, Colum- i hy their fruits ye shall know them." bus Day, being a legal holiday, this ! The final arldress of the afternoon office will be closed all day. Contrib- j was ttie "Summing Up" Dy Rev. Wil utors and advertisers are requested to ! liam H. Kidd "itis admitted that get th^ir news in a day earlier on that j certain things ought to be done; are accoant, Nassau County Review j you, am I, so much concerned that I Regular Meeting, Oct. 5, 191<5 TO SETTLE DAMAGES I FOR ACCIDEN r Counselor Sidney H.Swezey, who re- Horton.—A miscellHiieous shower was given in honor of .Misa Blanche Horton, of Brooklyn, at the home of Mrs. L>, J Comiskey. Southside Ave¬ nue, on Saturday. Twenty young lad¬ ies Were present and a very pleasant time enjoyed. Miss Horton is a form¬ er residont of Freeport and her en¬ gagement to Harry Brey of Brooklyn has been announced. Lent.—Mrs. E. B. Lent of Bayview Avenue entertained the Bavview which requires an autoist to stop uL ¦tree*: intersections v;hen signalkd by a traffic officer. Eariy Sunday morning an automo¬ bile struck one ot the boulevard laniris in front of the Pettit block on West | Merrick Road, breaking it otT nbout 3 ! ft. aboye ground, as well as smashing! j • ,viorre the newsstand in front of Miehnolf's | ^^^^^'^ stationery store. No one witnessed ' theaccident and the result wss ""t j ,,;,.",he finances of the"church that I presented the villsge in the damnge "-.^"-^ -—-^-j^ "- "-".¦— Camn Ave this Sundav afternoon at 3 known until the desk policeman dis- 1 ' ^^^^.^^ ^.^^^^^^ ^^^" ^^^^^^^ ^ j ,"it brought by Warren Bedell and B;"lge Club at her home last Friday ; ^."^f P/^^' '"'* ^""^^^^ Btternoon 3 covered It when he went to remove the I ^.^g^jy "support" of not less than I M"- Bedell,for injuries in an accident ' afternoon. The Club was entertained ;" *-""¦"¦ ;;i000. and not less than $800 if un-i some two years ago, when they fell Thursday afternoon at the home of The Union Chapel conducted by Mrs. married. 'over a wire on a new sidewalk being Mrs. D. J. Comiskey, Southside Ave- Dr. James E. Holmes followed with a'built on Crove Street, appeared and "ue. The members of this Club are: talk on "Our Local Benevolences—| recommended that the judgment of ' Mrs. Charles Young, Mrs. D. J. Com $500 be settled. The property owners concerned, with the contractor, would pay one-half of the amount, and the village the balance. The contractor! was the O. W. Humphrey Co., and the owners. George Earle,William G. Mil¬ ler Co. and S. F. Pearsall. It was decided to accept the recommendation. NIGHT WATCHMAN APPOINTED Henry W. Street, 87 South Bayview'popular with the younger set. Avenue, asked to be appointed as a i Romeike and Miss Lane spent The Rev returned to Brooklyn for the wintet trfcts outside of'iricorporated villages. , last week. 1 and the hours are from 7 a. m. to Id ' R. K. Dana^It^rTTmily left this ! f' "'• . |'*«. "^"'^'^^y ^°'.¦''"^^ ^°*f | week to stop far the season in Mbu- "? ^^K'^*" !" P"f"-Tf i' " . ' byj.,_ at the coming Presidential election.; ; It is one of the privileges of every ; Mrs. Roae Satehell ot Woods AvenD is now living in Brooklyn, havinfl moved there Isst week. Charles Whitthouse left laat we« for a business trip to Dklahonia, The monthly meeting of the Men's 1 male American citizen over 21 years Club will be held in the Parish Mouse jof age to vote if he is properly reg-. on Tuesday evening at H.^'J. \ istered and each one should take this preparatory step to exercising their The sessions of the Camp Ground 1 elective franchise on Election Day. Sonday School, the Rev. WM. H. Lit- i tebrandt in charge, will be resumed the fire hall of Companv No. 2 Firemen's Memorial Services Held Despite Fire When a general alarm eammoned tbe entire Are department to South Main Street and Atlantic Avenue Sun¬ day evening at 6:65. it was feared that the annual memorial servicea of tho departmeat, arranged for 7:30 the same evening at Christ Evangelical Lutheran Charch, would have to be omitted, especially aa the responding companies saw the sky aglow before them BR they answered the alarm. Although the firemen were delayed, Chaplain Karkau, pastor of that church, kindly delayed the aervieeB, so that when thoae of tbe firemen who coald finish tbeir work and attend tbe servicea, arrived a quarter hour after the scheduled time, the services were started. Only about twenty members attend¬ ed, but many who would have been present were unable to attend. The Chaplain gave an intereating address, taking for his text "Quit You Like Men." Five active and ex-members of the department had answered final roll call during tbe preceding year, making the total list of the department forty-nine. Irving Elliaon of Hose 1 was the only active member on the liat. Prize Winners at the Fair The following are among the win¬ ners of prizes for exhibitsat the Coun¬ ty Fair last week. Additional items would be gladly inserted if any are omitted: Fred Lossee, Freeport, flrst, pen young "Soulky Bantams;" second, roster (two years old); third and fourth, two old hens, two years old. Mrs. Frank Snedeker, sr., flrst on afghan; first on boy's sweater,; sec¬ ond on samples of lace; alf on knitted work. Mrs. J. M. Hewlett, first, lingerie pillow; home-made jelly cake. Mrs. Edwin Carman, first for knit¬ ted scarf, and for handerchief. Miss Lidie Raynor, first, home-made chocolate caxe. John H. Van Nostrand. firsts, corn, broom ; white rye, peck ; red Winter wheat, peck; white Winter wheat, peck; barley, peck; buckwheat. Silver Hull, peck; buckwheat, Japanese, peck; carrot*; horseradish. William H. Post, won first pqllet, third cockerel and fifth cock for R. I. Keds, single comb, for bis exhibits at Mineola Pair. Herman Seaman of Forrest Avenue, on bit Rhode Island Red chickens, won prizes on both exhibits, first on rooster and third on pullatt. they shall be done?" After the prograin of the afternoon, which closed at 6:30, asocial hour was enjoyeijb' when sandwiches and coffee were ftfrnished by the ladies of tbe lo cal church. '' iskey, Mrs. Youatt, .Mrs. T. H. bought, Mrs. E. B. Lent, Mrs. H. L. Maxson, Mrs. Tiuden and Mrs. B. H. I Perry. hold on Wednesday the Ilth from 2 to I 5 at the home of Mrs. Harry Leich. Admission is ten cents. Cakes will be I on aale. It is hoped and expected that I " ., ' " -, ., . j the success of the former occasions Romeike.-George D. Romeike of | ";" ^^end this social. New York is engaged to be married to : Kempter has been holding socials late I ly which have proven attractive and financially helpful. Another will be j Wyoming, is enjoying a ten days" fur- Miss Marguerite R. Palmer and Os¬ borne W. Birch, bdth of this village, were quietly married on Saturday of last week, and • are now enjoying a honeymoon trip to Niagara Falls. George Betz, one of Uncle Sam's bluejackets, attached to the Battleship EVENING PROGRAM Tbe evening program opened with devotional services in charge of Rev. S. O. Curtice, pastor of the Freeport Church. This waa followed by brief answers to the question "Wbat shall I carry back to my home church from this joint Quarterly Conference?" The pastors scheduled to speak were : Revs. Bassett, Gilman, I. L. Smith, Boynton, Lepley, Blatz, Adam, Cort, Hegarty, Sands, Severance, Ray, Cooke, Roberts and Williams. The exercises of tbe day closed with an address by Bishop Wilson, resident Bishop of New York. In connection with the work, an in¬ vitation was extended to those present to attend the New York Area Con¬ gress, which will convene at the call Miss Marie Lane of New York, form- I erly of Freeport Miss Lane lived I here about four years ago and was very \ the Mrs. Lcuis L. Lord was suddenly called to Baltimore on Tuesday by the illness of her little grandchild, Bush¬ nell, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. lough at the home of Newbridge Road. his parents on Mr. and Mrs. William E. turned on Saturday from Bowne re- pleasure I Mr. and Mrs. George Carman hav4 moved into one of the flats owned b] CtiarU's Behr on Nhsshu Road. Thcl'J^] were former residents of Whitehoas*! Avenue. Mr. itad Mrs James .Armstrong havst| returned to their home on Brooksid«' Avenue after spending the Summer months at Island Heights, N. J. Mr. and Mrs. Russell of Franklin Square have moved into a house on Henry Street, recently rented from Charles F. Behr. Misa Laura Denton has returned to her home here after spending two weeks at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Tredwell Elderd, Hempstead. The Hughes-Fairbanks campaign special night patrolman in the Village of Freeport, for private duty without expense to tbe village. He presented a petition sigiwd by some thirty inter¬ ested citizens asking for favorable ac¬ tion ; application granted. WATER FOR NEW ROADS The Standard Bitulihic Company, about to begin repairs of Main Street and Merrick Road, were given permis¬ sion to use village water at a flat rate of $6 a month. TO IMPROVE SIDEWALKS The Clerk was directed to notify a weekend with Valentine S. Quinlan, I ^ plausabie stranger visited this vil- who is stopping at the Woods Cottage [lage last week and engaged board with for the balance of the Winter. Mr. | Mra. Sarah Tween, promising three Romeike drove oat from New York in I more to come. He represented him- bis auto and returned Monday morning, self a civil engineer appointed by the j Town to settle some local question of Cartice.—Kenneth, son of Rev. and ! survey. He arranged with the local Mrs. Saul 0. Curtice, is preparing to I garage for a prospective car, aaw .to trip through the Southern States which I banner of ihe Harmony Club extended as far as Florida. ' stretched during the week witbout any ¦ 'ceremony. During the week the high Harry O. Jenner has secured a posi-1 wina caused some damage, making it tion in the local pumping station of ] necessary to take the banner down for the city water supply department. ^ Mias Hazel, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Edgar Greene of Wilson Avenue, was severely burned about the face and upper part of the body on Tuesday ot this week. Miss Greene was using gasoline to clean a pair of gloves at the kitchen sink in her home, and her father, not thinking what she was do repairs. The club is now making plans to have aome Addresses and music when it is ready again to be raised. St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Rev. Adelbert J. Smith, deacon in chargei^ residence, 22 Henry Street; telephone 1128-M. This Sunday, being the sec¬ ond Sunday in the month, the regular 10 o'clock service will be morning prayer, litany and sermon. The Sun- of Bishop Wilson at the Metropolitan SUPPLIES POR FIRE Temple, New York City, October 16 and 17. This meeting is for ministers and laymen with addresses by eminent men and women. CHURCHES INTERESTED . The churches in Group 2 are: Amity¬ ville, First; Amityville, Simpson; Babylon, Baldwin, Bellmore, Elmont, attend Pennington Preparatory School {proper telephone connexions, borrowed {ing, threw a lighted match in her di¬ at Pennington, N. J. Since his father | $6.00 from Mrs. Tween and decamped I rection, igniting the explosive. That came to Freeport to occupy the posi-! on Monday. Mrs. Tween reckons that { Hazel was not fatally burned or the ! day School service will be held at tion of pastor of tbe Methodist Church, j she pays 110.00 for experience. { house fired was due to tbe prompt ac- , 11:30. Last Sunday there was a very Kenneth has been a student at the . . | tion of Mr. Greene, who immediately good attendance of scholars and teach- high school here, and ith%mie '« re J^^n Wood has been connmisaioned j g^^j^g^gj jj,^ flames. ers, being the first since the school turn to school Monday w|t!5*is Hasa-! Assistant Scout Master of the Boy 1 1 was closed by order of the health number of property owners, as per j mates he would be a rhemlber c(||^e j'^.'=*"J*^°'^^^rica and will have prac- jj^ Wiiliam Wolfe has had new j authorities. Several new members list submitted by the Street Commis-i 1917 or Senior class. He intenoH to | *''^''<^"*'8« of tbe local troop. Boys piaj^ g|(,gg ,^,jnjo^, p|j,pgj j" t(,g f^^nf ^ ^^^^ p^^g^j^j ^^1,^ ^^j jjjj"gj jf,^ g^jj^j^i^ sioner, to construct passable sidewalks I enter college as soon as his prertara-! °^®r twelve years of age "re eligible of j,ig drag gtore during the past week, j It is hoped that all the old members • - - '¦ ¦• ¦ •• . ¦ lfnm»n,h.r.h,na"H«r« ,"",tpH tn ,n.n 'Wn » i of the School Will attend thiS Week. Members of the Bellmore Yacht! The Altar Guild held its business Club are rehearsing for their annuan^g^j^ ^" Tuesday evening of last . .- .--. "'V^ ! minstrel show Which IS to be given in I ^gi, Rev. Mr. Smith was present Inhabitants of i Firemen sHall some time during the I ^^ j^e meeting and expressed himself front of property owned by them, or the Street Commissioner will do the work at tbe expense of the village. DEPARTMENT The Chief of the Fire Department tory work has been accomplished. Miss Dorlon Showered A miscellaneous shower was given on September 30 in honor of Miss Ninon Dorlon by Mrs. Pierre Wilson I to membership and are invited to join. A supper and hike have been arranged for to take place shortly. I Merrick Incensed """"'^"^ ^¦""^.T^'f" /''*^''°**'""'i pleased at the plans the members have made requisition for regular supplies; and Mrs. Joseph Asch, at the home of referred to Clerk to secure estimates. I Mrs. Asch, 161 Porterfield Place. i Miss Dorlon's engagement to James ASK RAILROAD TO year given by the local yachtsmen was j reoared fjr the coming season. one of the best amateur performances ; ^he flowers on the altar of the Vl t < M«"i I, in.L- Th r»."it ''u^'' P'«««"'«*^ '," ^'i'"' ^""Ke. «"dl .hurch are furnished each week by boats av Merrick dock. -The result they expect to make the coming show ,",^^i,gg ^"j f^i.^jg ", g"^, j ^ For che past ten days a thieves has been at work gang of upon the REPAIR CROSSING <. . been announced. A reaolution was passed regarding \ j^e decorations were carried out in i yellow and white very effectively with thu bad condition of the various L. I. Freeport, Lawrence, Lynbrook, Ocenn ! r R crossines and reouestine imme- i^ 7 iT 7 «"«^^'v«'y «'" Qij« D .«i,.,:n r-o.,*,.. D"«"""^it «".. crossings, ana requesting imme-, the use of go den rod which was artis Side, Rockville Centre, Roosevelt. Sea- - jfBte improvement. .icallv arranged on the staircase fire ford. Grace, Valley Stream; First,! tically arranged on tne staircase, nre Valley Stream; Woodmere, Springfield } JVJotion Pictures Gardens. A similar meeting was held in Nos¬ trand Avenue M. E. Uhurch, Brooklyn, on Tuesday evening. Mother's Club To Meet The Mothers'Club will hold the first ^ - . 1 . • . . u meeting for the Fall at the Grove New York City concern, is located in »na "« ehowered upon her. - , -, . The shower was a surprise for the | (The above item I guest, and as the twenty-five invited I'shed as requested in Freeport There has been considerable rumor about the proposed moving picture I company being organized in Freeport. I By request the following item is furn- {ished by an officer of the company : The Anchor Pilm Corporation, Street School on Wednesday, October this village with reputable Nassau 11, at 8:30 p. m. All mothers are in- County citizens as officers and direct- vited to be present. ors This company has taken its place . I among the producing concerns, manu- I facturing high grade feature photo* To Celebrate | pUy productions in the United States. Columbus Day '^''^ *^*^'''P'°y'*'*''''''^'' arrangements with an established marketing organ¬ ization in New York City, whereby it agrees to release 6 5-reel productions Hessian of Richmond Hill, has just has been that many boats have been , an iniprovement over the former one. broken into and articles of all kinds ' The exact date will be announced later. stolen. The thieves have exhibited . great nerve and diligence, for they | The regular monthly meeting of Ad- went BO far as to remove two engines | vance Hook and Ladder Company will from two of the larger boats. To pre-! be held in its hall on Thursday even- vent all further depredations several i ing of next week, golden rod ; of the boat owners have employed a the arch-' watchman. He has been instructed to Bellmore baseball team defeated the ways under which the bride elect had ! shoot to kill any person caught in the Babylon A. C. on the local diamond to pass wben entering. The bell was \ act of breaking into a boat or house. | '"«'Sunday, .he score being 9 to 2. filled with rice and the gifts that could, It i» to be regretted that one or niore 1 ^e"'aunaay tney win pay be showered from it and so arranged i men may be killed, but it is felt that that when Miss Dorlon passed under ' this is the most expeditious way of ii the bottom swung open and the gifts | ending the comroission 01 felonies in the future. willingly pub- If the purpose of place, electric lights and archways. A large bell shaped with was suspended over one of will representing the Smithvile C. team South A. J membor of their family. There is no'' ! doubt but what o'tfisrs may wish to { also have a part in this worthy wnrk which can be provided for by consul- i tation with a member of the church. I Choir rehearsal is held every Wed- ' nesday evening in the church. The attendance laot week was good, but not as good as tkose in charge wish for. Members of the church intereat- ; ed in this department are invited to I meet with the choir next Wednesday j at 8 p. m. Sidney Smith advertises a special sale of White sewing machines in this issue; see adv. Attention is called to the adv. of J. E. W. Johnson in this issue, giving unusual chance to purchase second- haad autoa in good condition. Bert's Specialty Shop in tbe village office building, West Merrick Road and Chnrch Street, is holding an anni¬ versary sale this week. They invite you to call and look over tbeir stock. Try my specUl box of cut flowers. 76c for the weekend. C. R. Ankers, floriat, Rockville Centre, L. I.: tele¬ phone connection; delivery anywhere. Buv good coal St the right price. Freeport Coal Co., 19 S. Main St.. Tel. 889. The two celebrations planned for Columbus Day have been united in one big time, tc be held at Bennington and i . "^" rr,. " "j:,.., *". .n ".""-.._;" . ^ , . . mi. -... I a year. Ine editor for all manuscripts Columbus Avenues. The committee ;. d»»- announces a grand display of fire works, dancing, with prize for best dancdra, greased pole climbing con¬ test, address by lawyer Albin N. John¬ son and contest (or most popolar lady and gentleman; atag band concert by Prof. Madonna of l>)ew York City. The committee are: John LaGreca, Michael Caidooe, Rocco -Oi Napoli, Frank CostAntino, Loaia Ferrara, John Talesono, J. Lascala, Zacaro Antonio. Marasi Nicola, R. De Benedetto, Car¬ ra Antonio, John Lascala. Fortunato Griilr, Antonio Sirico, Marino Maxa- telli, Frank Moro, Griffo Cristofaro, Nicola Lascala, Ciciro Giovanni. is Peter Milne; tbe publicity and sales- manager is R. M. Vanderwirt, both of 729 Seventh Avenue, New York. The scenario writer is Charles Kennedy of 1416 Broadway, New York. The pro¬ duction will be under the direction of James A. Stiles, formerly of^tfae Vita* graph Co. The camera man is Fraqk Carroll, formerly of the Klein-Edison Co. It is planned to feature Miss friends had assembled before her ar¬ rival it proved a success in every way. The gifts included linen, silver, cut glass, potted ferns, a vacuum cleaner, baskets and personal articles. After the excitement had subsided tables were arranged for games which the guests enjoyed until 10:30, the the item is to frighten nuirauders, we truat it will serve its purpose, but we woold not be understood as favor¬ ing such drastic measures, if for no other reason than because some inno¬ cent parties might suffer. What if every lad caught stealing apples, wat¬ ermelons, clams or oysters were to be first and second prizes being cut glass "hot? However, a competent watch and the consolation a little kewpie "en ^i" not need te resort to such doll dressed as a bride. After this | desperate means, and we trust tbe refreshments were served. I thieves will be caught and punished. I—Ed.) Small Building Burns i Madison C. Peters on South Main Street doming to Freeport The fire Sunday evening was in a r. « j: no. .1. e small outbuilding in the rear of thei, Dr. Madison C. Peters the famous residence ot George Combs, on South f^^""/' *'." ^'J" *"? '*5'"". ^''V''**' KatlM^p. Rodger..^_formerly of ,^ I M-in^Stree. _but^the ^re^bad^^g^ | .^-^i^^Jt^;;^;^;?T'W^^ne" Maude Adams Co., tbe Julia Sander- > '"ch headway before being discovered, i I although the family were at supper in day, October 11, at 8 p. m. SCHOOL NOTES Roosevelt School opened on Monday with a large attendance and with two new teachera on the staff, Misa Mar¬ jorie Craig of Fultonville, N. Y., and Miss Florence Stiles of Freeport., .^^ Tbe general school exhibit at tbe Mineola Fair waa exceptionally good this year and was awarded second premium by tba judges. The work Charles H. Woodford, aged 64 years, "», put up by Janitor George Dennis died at hia late home, 74 Rosedale i under tbe supervision of the principal. Avenue, on Wednesday. Puneral ser- jjiss Westervelt, assisted by Hisses vices were held Thursday evening, 1 Kirley, Coonley and Bentley. Besides Rev. S. 0. Cartice, pastor of the Free-1 the premium for general work, ten Obituary FLORENCEINDNYERE Florence, infant daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Indnyere of Albany Avellue, died at her late home on Tuesday; in¬ terment at Westbury on Wedneaday; C. A. Fnlton, funeral director. CHARLES H. WOODFORD port M. E. Chnrch, ofliciating. The body wiy be taken to Hartford, Conn., for burial; C. A. Fulton, funeral di¬ rector. Mr. Woodford is survived by two tons. Miss Grace I the house, that it s^smed from a dis- . ^be lecture j. under the auspices of | the million dollar mark, all of which I the Men's Clab and the program com- I mittee invites all to attend. son C«. and the Vitagraph Co., in sup I port of E. H. Sothern; Miss Grace, Davison, formerly of the Mutual Pic-; | tance that a large fire was under head- tare Corporation, and a resident of'. way. l>ong Beach; Charles Nicholl, of Pree-i The building was almost entirely | i""-_i|«. nAlln#iiionte port; Lawrence Hayes and other well- j destroyed, although the residence bot JUVcmic L/CiinqueiiLS known screen artists. a few feet away was not scorched, j on Parole Tbe making of the first play has}The damage to the buiiding will prob ' Last Thursday afternoon Officer Nearly a Million in Assets The regniar report of tbe Frceort Bank, published in this issue, shows total assets running within $40,000 of At the Pltaa week of Oot. 9tb: Mod., Marguerite Clark in "The Prince and the Pauper," Billie Burke in "Gloria's Romance." Tues., Vic¬ tor Moore and Anita King in "The Race." Wed., Holbrook Blinn in "Tbe Weakness of Men." Thurs., Mabel Taliaferro in "God's Half Acre." I Main Street, Freeport. Prid., Jame<i Moriison in "Tbe Re- : demption of Dave Darcey," Sat., . Hymeneal Mary Pickford in "The Eternal} MILLBR-THOMP tfrind. I AdTartiMiMat. Miso Florence Miller, daoghter of I Assemblyman and Mrs. William G. Even if good positions were looking ' Miller, and Edward B. Thompson will for men they would nut select tbe men | be united in marriage next Wednesday who ara widting to be looked for. evening. progressed to a point where it ir about | ably amount to about $160, and to the ' punbar arrested three cbildren for one-quarter completed. contents, consisting of clothing, tools, breaking into the bome of Mrs. Zulzer, All communication^ relative to the! etc., about $200, partially covered by ,t jqi Wallace Street. Tbey were Anchor Film Co. shoald be sent to its j ioaurance. 1 Leonard Post, 11 years old; Samuel secretary, Frajikliq G. Granger. 8 No, I ~ Jackson. 9 years old; and Purnell M«Pe Freeport Newt od rage 8 white, 12 years,the two latter colored. On Monday tbe Post lad was paroled in nail j Miss Eleanor S. Roe. 296 Pine ! care of hie matemall grandmother, anA Street, will open kindergarten class ! the two otbers in care of OffWer Dnn- ion Monday, October 16, AdvMtla«aiM«t. —. . ' . .1 Olsen advertises spccisi sale of ex- The tryers are the winners-and , ^^",j"" t^^les this week ; see bis adv. every classified advertiser is trying to ; ^^ _^ 7 •ccompl/ch some task. ' speaks well for business conditions in Preeport. Weekly Weather Keport (For our readers in other localities) Friday, September 29. warm, win¬ dy, fine weather for HiiMola fair to date; heavy rain at 4 o'eiock and rainy evening. Saturday, clear, cool. Sunday, clear, cool, fins Fall weath¬ er. Monday, same. Tuesday, same. - Wednesday, ^ama. Thursday, same, fog in a. m. Get acquainted wJth the man who ought to be yonr tenant—through th« classified. first prizes and seven second prices were won by individual pupils as fol¬ lows: Pirst Priaes—-Henry Taylor, map of Long Ishind; Abraham Licht, compo-' sition; Helen Mahoney, description; Buth Christensen, drawing centtrac- tion; Helen Mahoney, essay; Edith' Griffiths, still life; Austin Wood, let* tering; Marion Kobin, U. S. map; Minnie Rficheldt. mature study book¬ let; Gladys Voorhis, composition. The above named will receive $1 aa k premium. Second Prises—George Clark, map of Long '.aland; George Hansen, nat¬ ure stody booklet; Lillian Behr, paper construction; Richard Watts, Hallow¬ e'en drawing; Florence Kohler, com- poeition; Ruth Lytle, composition; Elsie Dictriefaeen, description. These pupils receive 60 cents as sec¬ ond premiums. | The general school exhibit "price is $2.50. The regnlsr work began on Mondaf as all prelimtnar.v'work bad been com* pleted in thd two weeks preceding the opening, all teachers having reported for duty since Septemberj20. (Contipued on page 5)
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The famous meerkat, Aleksandr Orlov visits the UK to reward comparethemarket.com customers in this latest TV spot by VCCP.
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The Real Deal: TG in the Martini Porsches
Two racing Porsches from two eras. Both with Martini livery. Exciting times...
Posted: 26 Sep 2013
What you see here are the bookends that prop either end of the racing 911 encyclopedia. On the one hand, we have the latest GT3 Cup car, complete with a familiar-sounding 3.8-litre flat-six and paddleshift transmission; on the other, we have something from the outer reaches of an engineer's imagination. A car called Moby.
Let's start with the car that's easier to get to grips with - the Cup. This is what the GT3 is pretending to be when you take it to a track day. The two are more closely related than you might expect: identical exterior dimensions, broadly the same power, same basic suspension layout. OK, so the transmission is a single-clutch dog 'box, but that's the biggest mechanical change.
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It's 35 years old. It remains to this day the most powerful 911 of all and is borderline terrifying, even in a place with as much open run-off as this. And no, this has little to do with a value that runs into millions.
Unlike the Cup car, which, broadly speaking, started life as a road car and is still on speaking terms with one, if Moby were placed next to an original 911 Turbo, you wouldn't spot they came from the same planet. Porsche exploited the rulebook rigorously, raising the floor, dropping the body by 75mm, even mounting the gearbox upside down, and then attaching the cartoonish bodywork that gave the car its nickname over the top of the original panels. Have a look at Moby's rear for proof.
The 3.2-litre flat-six was totally overhauled (by Hans Mezger, naturally), with water-cooled cylinder heads and all sorts of trickery, including an additional KKK turbo. But then, while the basic 911 Turbo delivered 260bhp, Moby had 845bhp. And a four-speed manual gearbox where first is good for 100mph. And a locked rear differential. And turbo lag you could measure in terms of continental drift.
It's not an easy car to drive. It's more a living, breathing monster. You're rolling along in first, and here's what happens. Nothing. Then a faint whistle, like the distant approach of a steam train. It's steady, becoming more insistent, getting towards boiling kettle. There's a tone change as suck turns to blow. Moby starts to push more insistently, and then pressure arrives, and you've travelled into the next dimension. The full Star Trek. It's astounding. The first time, I guarantee you'd lift as your survival instinct kicks in. It's otherworldly, difficult to process - most of a Veyron's power but with half the weight.
So lag is an issue. And so is understeer. With a locked diff, Moby doesn't like turning much, so has to be muscled in - ideally while braking so as to keep some weight on the nose. Plus, you want to be building power up with the right foot to overcome lag when you get to the exit, not forgetting to tense your buttocks for the moment the turbos hit. From then on, every time I hit the throttle, I whoop at the sheer joy of it.
This is an amazing car, so mechanical in its operation and yet so flawed. The only thing it has in common with the newer Cup car is an engine layout and some particularly delicious Martini livery. Instead, it shows how far things have progressed, how the 911 has become more manageable, how Porsche has taken a flawed concept and mastered it.
Words: Ollie Marriage
Pictures: Rowan Horncastle
Moby Dick
Engine: 3211cc, twin turbo, flat 6cyl,845bhp @ 8,200rpm, 578lb ft @ 6,600rpm, 4spd manual, RWD, 1025kg
Performance: 0-62mph in 2.6secs, 227mph vmax, 824bhp/tonne
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Engine: 3800cc, flat 6cyl, 454bhp @ 8,500rpm, n/a lb ft @ n/a rpm, 6spd seq, RWD, 1160kg
Performance: 0-62mph in 3.2secs, 202mph vmax, 391bhp/tonne
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This post is by Brenna McCormick-Thompson, Print Room Reference Assistant In the autumn of 1815, a group of concerned citizens in Westchester County, New York banded together to put a stop to one of the most egregious crimes plaguing the region: horse stealing. Having identified a very real threat to their homes and communities, a […]
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Hair Ornament
Ivory's value results from its scarcity, as well as its association with the elephant, a symbol of power and strength. Ivory bracelets, decorated with engraved designs, were made by the Fur of the Darfur region of Sudan and traded as far as Eritrea and the Republic of the Congo. Hairpins from the northeastern Democratic Republic of the Congo are worn by both men and women to hold hats and ornate hairstyles in place. These hairpins are particularly ostentatious, since each is made from a large piece of ivory, most of which is carved away.
This text refers to these objects: ' 22.1068a; 22.677; 22.690; 22.691; 22.692; 22.697; 22.705; 22.707; 22.747; 22.912; 22.1604; 22.1605; 31.2036.1; 31.2036.2; 22.1942; 56.6.53
- Cultures: Mangbetu; or Zande
- Medium: Ivory, pigment
- Place Made: Ubangi or Uele region, Democratic Republic of the Congo
- Dates: late 19th or early 20th century
- Dimensions: 5 11/16 x 3/8 in. (14.4 x 1 cm) (show scale)
- Collections:Arts of Africa
- Museum Location: This item is on view in African Storage Annex, East Gallery, 1st Floor
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- Accession Number: 22.707
- Credit Line: Museum Expedition 1922, Robert B. Woodward Memorial Fund
- Rights Statement: Creative Commons-BY
- Caption: Mangbetu. Hair Ornament, late 19th or early 20th century. Ivory, pigment, 5 11/16 x 3/8 in. (14.4 x 1 cm). Brooklyn Museum, Museum Expedition 1922, Robert B. Woodward Memorial Fund, 22.707. Creative Commons-BY
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Political parties should be banned in the United States of America.
In George Washington's 1796 Farewell Address, President Washington warned the American people of the dangers political parties pose to the nation's government (that of the United States under the Constitution). Considering the current government's stalemate and the abilities of political parties to "divide a nation", it seems most evident that he was right in expressing his concerns for the future of this country and for the welfare of its people.
As it appears, elected officials are more concerned with maintaining their own party's control over their rivals rather than serving the interests of the people and opens up the debate on whether political parties should continue to dominate politics in the United States of America at the expense of the American people and at the expense of a functioning government.
Jun 5 2013: We need to form a party that would ban all parties and then rule "in the name of the people". I think, I've seen this idea. May be, it failed because the party forgot that "all parties" includes itself.
This appears to be a variation of Russell's paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_paradox): "Should a party that has an agenda of banning all parties be banned itself?" And who would do the banning? Who shaves the barber who shaves everyone who doesn't shave himself?
Actually, "banning ourselves" (our own ego, that is) is not such a bad idea. It might have the magic effect of eliminating corruption and oppression.
Jun 5 2013: I would say it goes to core beliefs that can be, or are persuaded away from the good of all, to the good of "our group". This is human nature, picking sides and fighting against the other. I see no way to stop it barring massive education reform, and then the other side would say you are brainwashing the people!
Jun 5 2013: Yes. I believe, dividing world into "us" and "them", "good" and "evil", or even "me" and "you" is the source of most trouble.
Bipartisan system, despite its tendency to divide the nation, is, definitely, better than totalitarianism.
Daryll Wong
Jun 29 2013: You should be banned for saying political parties should be bannedJun 20 2013: I personally believe Parties are part of what is destroying our nation. It circumvents the whole aspect of personal responsibility/ accountability and delegates that to the "parties" instead.
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edward long
Jun 17 2013: Political parties have not divided America. Individual ideologies have polarized America. Political parties are merely the organizations where like-minded people congregate to focus and amplify their political clout. 47% of Americans want the government to be responsble for virtually everything. 6% of Americans don't have an opinion about the issues on which we vote. The remaining 47% want constitutional government with all power not specifically given to the federal government to belong to the People or the State. We may be witnessing the birth of a fourth party in America, but for now we have Liberals, the Ignorant and Apathetic "party", and Conservatives. No one is forced to be in any party. Each person expresses their ideology by aligning with a party. Besides, what would a one-party nation look like anyway?
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Jun 21 2013: Is that you in the video? (Not that I am trying to label you). I agree that the affinity we have for labels, as an organizational tool for all the information we have, has a dark downside. We put too much stock in labels. We treat labels as though they are unassailably correct. We greatly oversimplify an issue by the thoughtless application of some readily available label. Labels are useful but must be carefully constructed and applied, kind of like nitroglycerin, it is probably best to avoid handling certain things which, in the hands of the wrong person, can do harm.
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Kunal Puri
Jun 24 2013: First of all, I don't think a one-party nation is being suggested. The proposition is to ban parties altogether.
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If 47% want one thing and 47% want another, and if it really is as simple as that (of course it isn't), then the dissolution of parties shouldn't matter, should it? People would vote the same way, wouldn't they? The reality is that labels do have an effect on how people vote and more importantly on the way members of Congress vote. Members of Congress are swayed by four things: parties, funders, polls, and themselves. I think we can all agree that members of Congress should use their own intelligence to represent the People and that voters should use their own intelligence to evaluate candidates based on ideas and merit.
On the other hand, it can be argued that parties do serve a useful function. They can get bills passed. Granted, that's not always a good thing with either party, especially if you're fed up with earmarks like I am. But if you are firmly on the side of one party over the other, you might want to keep it alive so it can organize coalitions.
I'm therefore inclined to think of this is as a debate between partisans and independents--between people who judge quickly based on party or ideology and people who judge slowly based on careful logic. Alternatively, maybe the debate I've described is between idealists and pragmatists. Either way, partisans can be reckless and independents indecisive, and idealists can be simplistic and pragmatists complacent. We all have something to learn from each other here, and I don't think this question has an obvious answer. We could have an interesting discussion.
Jun 24 2013: Not only could we have an interesting discussion, I thought we were having one. If you were to come down off the fence which side would you be on? In the USA we have 100 Senators and 435 Representatives. Those 535 votes pretty much determine the course of our nation. Most issues they debate can be viewed from more than one perspective. The big three of those possible perspectives are Liberal/Democrat, Conservative/Republican, and Independent. How could those 535 voters be known if not by party affiliation? Whether we label the various perspectives or not they will exist. Call them "YEA" and "NAY", or "A" and "B", or whatever you like. Even though each of the 535 "use their own intelligence to represent the People" as you say, the most popular two or three positions will cluster into groups. Avoiding naming those groups makes it needlessly more difficult to discuss them. For that reason alone America must have a multi-party system!
Jun 28 2013: "For that reason alone America must have a multi-party system!" 1) I disagree. 2) Must!? No. There is ALWAYS a choice.
"Avoiding naming those groups makes it needlessly more difficult to discuss them." I actually think the opposite. It makes it more complicated by letting their "differences" get in the way before anyone has a chance to rationally discuss the issues at stake.Jun 28 2013: A conservative can be conservative without being a Republican, and a liberal can be a liberal without the need for being a Democrat. Besides, the majority of Americans are not 100% conservative or liberal on every issue.Jun 28 2013: "The proposition is to ban parties altogether." Kunal Puri is right.Jun 29 2013: You missed the idea Ed......no political parties.....period. Not one national party, just a few American people doing the work that needs to be done to administer the nation.
Jun 29 2013: The fact is that efficient, intelligent communication requires names; titles;labels; descriptions; categories; classification; taxonomy; etc. Imagine the difficulty of communicating about political and civic matters if you were only allowed to use the term "Participants", with no further descriptive information about your subject persons or groups. Not a good idea! By the way, the name of that single political "PARTY" would be, "Participants", with everyone else being formed into a second party and labeled, by default, "Non-participants". We need the minimum concept of "A" and "Not A" to communicate. Imagine the shoe industry if only the word "shoes" could be used to refer to the myriad variations of the product!
Mike Colera
Jun 13 2013: I think I figured it out.
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Most Americans don't vote.
So it is true. ' you get what you didn't ask for'....'nuff said.
Julio Z
Jun 9 2013: Unfortunately politicians only see the way to be re-elected and nothing else. The current government wil continue printing US dollars through QE and will cause a huge HYPERINFLATION around 2016-2018. We have to be prepared. http://theelevationgroupreviews.blogspot.comJun 6 2013: Maybe we should try one man one vote.
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Jun 8 2013: Isn't that the basis of democracy?Jun 1 2013: ...and in the whole World. We are made to think there is no Democracy without parties. Truth is there can only be a true Democracy without parties because: they propiciate corruption; they are a main cause for the professionalization of politics which is obviously anti-democratic; they limit and control the access to law making and decision taking by normal citizens. Parties indeed divide a country unnecessarily as well as behave like companies interested in preserving their place on the "market" and increasing their "profits" in the form of power and jobs for the boys. Also parties cannot be "fired" and sanctioned for improper behaviour of their members, seats just keep rotating. If we had parliaments of independent everyday citizens with highly limited number of mandates possible we would have much more control over those who we elect and that are not doing their work properly or not keeping their promises.Jun 21 2013: I am not sure if as an Indian I am competent to comment on this but I am commenting because constitutions of the US and India have certain similarities (we the people etc.).
If not outright banning, there should be constitutional control mechanism over political parties, a code of conduct for politicians and a transparency of lives and acts on the part of the politicians for sure. The areas where the interests of a political party may clash with real national interest should be clearly defined too. Moreover, there should be constitutional encouragement to differentiate a true statesman from a party leader.
There should be constant movement for bringing in talented, well educated professionals into realpolitik.Jun 19 2013: People have already started to grasp that politicians are a bad idea, mainly I suppose because power corrupts, and that love of power is already suspicious in itself.
The next step would of course to be able to see through the myth of conflict as the best way to make décisions.
Democracy is still the best system - but what it means is that the beliefs with the biggest support base are the ones that are put into practise. In the USA the 2 political parties have got to a point of being very similar; is all the tribal/partisan posturing really the best way of making décisions?
But whats the alternative ? - I assume AI is going to play a greater and greater part in the political process - at first through promoting easier participation (eg voting apps) but eventually in order to make economic, social, health décisions; based purely on data - rather than belief - we're looking at a robot president.
Andrea Hunt
Jun 13 2013: I think the American public needs to take responsibility for the partisan nature of American politics. We are the ones who have become one issue voters (for/against abortion, for/against gun control, etc.) and we elect people who agree with us on our one issue. I've seen this from both highly educated folks and folks with not much formal education.If we could look beyond our tiny backyards and see that there is a huge range of issues that our country desperately needs to address, perhaps we would be rewarded with multidimensional, thinking politicians. As long as we vote on one dimension, we will have unidimensional representatives.Also, having just read the book Quiet, I suggest that we not be seduced by candidates who have a ready answer for everything. We should not confuse glibness with intelligence. My measure of that is if the candidate can spit out a response without any conscious thought, that response is canned and therefore fake. Give me someone who takes a moment to think before speaking -- but that will never happen in politics (sigh).Jun 11 2013: Maybe the problem is more about how election campaigns are funded than it is about political parties. To reduce the influence of special-interest groups, all election campaigns could be through taxpayer-funded forums. Candidates would submit a deposit (to be returned if the candidate receives 10+% of the vote). That way, candidates wouldn't have to sell their souls for campaign funds. Candidates can list their general philosophy through "party affiliation", but be elected on the basis of ideas rather than campaign funds. There would then be less pressure for elected representatives to adhere to "Party Lines", instead of openly contributing ideas to "Best Practice" solutions to government issues.Jun 9 2013: Same is the case with India too. In India too political parties should be banned . All the democratic countries should ban the political parties and should opt for Direct Democracy.
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Jun 9 2013: Santokh,
You're welcome to join this conversation on electronic direct democracy if you wish to discuss it further. http://www.ted.com/conversations/18759/does_your_country_have_an_elec.html?c=687722
Jun 9 2013: I have few questions you regarding E2D.
Since voting would be done electronically, and the Internet seems to be increasingly hacked from inside the US and outside, how can we develop an internet-based election system that we can guarantee would be absolutely secure from hacking that could alter the outcome of elections?
Our existing legislative body at the federal level consists of two houses -- one with representatives of each state, and the other representing individual districts within each state. How would we have to restructure our present system to incorporate the E2D system?
Section 4 of this "manifesto" states that elected representatives must always vote on bills in accordance with the views expressed within the Party. Is this putting too much power into the hands of a single entity? What sorts of enforceable controls would be put on this entity that would ensure that its central leadership couldn't manage or manipulate matters for their own benefit?
Many of the provisions of the manifesto would require major changes to our Constitution. Such changes have to be initiated either by Congress at the national level, or by individual state legislatures. Can you realistically see something like this happening with elected legislators (both at the federal and state levels) whose political campaigns are heavily financed by powerful financial interests would would strongly oppose any such change?
And, last, the name used for this document is "Manifesto." Don't you suppose that name, as well as the fact that it would put the people back in control of their government, is likely to associate the movement with Communism and the document with the Communist Manifesto, thereby killing the movement in this country before it even gets off the ground here?
Jun 9 2013: Hi Jim,
I'm glad for all your questions, it would however be better if you post any further questions on the Conversation so that others that are also involved in E2D can give you answers for solutions that I'm not aware of. I'm not the leading character of this movement, just a small part. We do have an admin for the E2D website that seems to visit the conversation and he's much better at answering these question then I am. That being said, I'll give you the best answers I can.
Paragraph 1. This TED Talk is a possible solution http://www.ted.com/talks/david_bismark_e_voting_without_fraud.html.
But there are also other ways of assuring that the system hasn't been manipulated like comparing the results to opinion polls, and if they differ very much an inquery would have to be made.
Paragraph 2. We would have party members of a DD party voted onto the position of say the house of representatives for a set period of time, once there s/he is pledged to cast all votes in accordance with the majority of the party.
Most DD parties want to (at first) exist within the institutions that already exist and change them toward the DD approach,such changes will take time. the only other option would be revolution, and you don't start a party for that.
Paragraph 3. It is not putting more power into anyone's hands then there is power put in people today, the only difference would be a higher accountability for your voting. If someone would break the pledge they would be disgraced and stripped of power as soon as possible.
Paragraph 4. see paragraph 2.
Paragraph 5. Yes, the fear of communism will be a problem. but it is not what any DD party is going for, simply majority rule. And the meaning of manifesto is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifesto it has no political siding.
Hope that helped a bit.
I'm sure that you have questions to those answers and if you could, could you please post them on http://www.ted.com/conversations/18759/does_your_country_have_an_elec.htmlJun 9 2013: Let's see, India is close to a billion in population. DD is functional up to about maybe a 1000 population. After that it's problematic. We learned this in the USA awhile back. So, India could become 100,000 thousand little countries. That should work well.Jun 9 2013: National governments are unnatural assemblies. Why would citizens from diverse regions of a country, with dissimilar environments, needs and hopes, allow a disassociated body to decide, control and enforce?
Such an arrangement is doomed to fail. The appointed bodies know that and turn inward to their own agenda, casting restrictive nets over the public to prevent intrusion. What else is to be expected? Those fortunate representatives find themselves as guardians of a bottomless source of tax revenue with no independent oversight. Naturally, they battle to retain their seats and duel with those who declare they have better opinions but who are, in fact, identical in their urge to possess numerical dominance for passing legislation that favour their constituents and thus prolong their terms in office.
If there is no alternative to few serving many, then let it be on the smallest scale possible, where integrity can be closely monitored, transgressions punished, and progress pursued that benefits all in the communities. That is not Utopian, it is common sense.Jun 8 2013: I like this conversation! I like this a lot!
We've fallen into paralysis because of greed and self-serving politics. Neither party places the needs and the will of the people beyond its own self-serving interest. And that MUST End!
Jun 9 2013: Why? And if there were no parties, now what?
Jun 9 2013: I'm just complaining about the two parties we have in the USA. And what's the use as they don't do anything but recycle favors for Billionaires & corporations and leave the rest of us in the dirt!Jun 9 2013: " Neither party places the needs and the will of the people beyond its own self-serving interest. And that MUST End!" -- Juan Valdez
I interpret this as meaning that the practice of putting personal interests ahead of the need and will of the American people must end -- not that political parties must necessarily end. We just need to get people into office like Bernie Sanders, who puts the best interests of our country above political party ideology (he is an Independent) and seems to have adopted our country's best interests as his personal interest.
Thanks to the billions of dollars that have been injected into partisan politics, our government has been corrupted to the point where we no longer have a republic that is truly representative of the people. Instead, it represents big money interests first and foremost. Government by the people and for the people is now a joke, but not a funny one.
During the Nixon years, John Dean told the President that there was "a cancer on the Presidency" that must be excised or his Presidency would be in danger. We now have a cancer on our entire political leadership that must be excised our or entire country will surely fail.Jun 29 2013: Each individual would stand on his own convictions!
Larry Lawson
Jun 8 2013: Of course political parties should not exist. They are anti-democracy at its worst. It does not matter if you have two political parties or twenty. Political parties have a broad range of policies that they adhere to. So do citizens. But there is seldom, if ever, a full match between the policies of the political parties and the citizens. I may like the financial policies of one party but the social policies of another. A party system forces me to vote against one or the other. Either way I don't get what I really think would be preferable over-all results.
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But this is actually arguing about where to put the deck chairs on the Titanic after it hits the iceberg. The truth of the matter - that all commenters have so far skirted - is that electing representatives is an unworkable method of selecting democratic management for societies. It doesn't work anywhere it is being used. It has never worked anywhere it has been used. And it is unlikely to ever work. No one man or small group of party owned representatives can properly and adequately represent those who elect them.
It is unfortunate that so many people have been conditioned to think that "one man - one vote" is what determines democracy. Especially since we know that both votes and men can be - and are - bought regularly. Political parties contribute to this buying of politicians and their votes in governing bodies by seeking contributions to finance election campaigns. "He who pays the piper, calls the tune".... always. Every political party's interests are totally different from citizens' interests. Citizens want good management; political parties want power. When the politicians you elect belong to, and are owned by, political parties, they do not - cannot - represent you. They can only represent their party and its financial backers.
There is a much better method of selecting society's managers. It's called "Citizens' Democracy". All adult citizens participate in the management of their society.
Paul Lillebo
Jun 8 2013: I'd be all in favor of your idea, Casey, if it were legal. Unfortunately, political parties are public associations just as legal as any other, and can't be banned. But they must be tamed, they have arrogated to themselves power that they should not have. As you say, they have become solely concerned about their own power, to the degree that the party that does not hold the presidency works constantly to ensure that the administration will be a failure. This is not in the country's interest, and is not the proper meaning of "opposition," which should imply a reasoned dialogue and assurance that all views be heard. But it's also true that it's a long time since a U.S. President made much effort to bring the opposition party into serious consultations.
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In my opinion, the best solution is for us in the American electorate to get so fed up with our dysfunctional Congress that we vow to elect no one but independents who are committed to electoral reform, particularly to removing the corrupting effect of private money that now drives our elections. This solution is cheap and effective: We simply check off the name of an independent candidate. (I will add that we often have Rep. or Dem. candidates campaigning on the promise that they will work for election reform. Don't believe them. Even if they honestly believe their own rhetoric, as soon as they get to Washington they no longer represent us, they represent their party and they understand who butters their bread. No meaningful election reform can happen as long as these two parties are in power.)
I've written several essays on this topic on the web site Blue Ridge Journal. A summary of the ideas is here:
http://www.blueridgejournal.com/brj-congressreform.htmJun 8 2013: Thinking about it maybe people should have to take a test before they can vote. Ban Stupid people.
Jimmy Strobl
Jun 8 2013: Would you pass that test? Or how many would? Where do you draw the line for when someone is smart enough to have a say in country affairs?
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Jun 8 2013: Same way you could identify a political party.... Which makes me wonder? If Political parties were banned would that mean that the Tea Party would not be band but the republican party would?
Martin Odber
Jun 6 2013: Imagine if you will, a system that is dedicated to presenting the issues at hand to the public and carrying the gathered vote of all eligible citizens forward to their government.
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The mechanism for doing this secure, anonymous, efficient, inexpensive, readily available to all, and watch-dogged by every single participant.
Government would never again be as we know it. It would be better, stronger, and dedicated to serving the nation it governs.
Confidence polls in our government would always have a majority as the majority vote would guide us.
Scandals and corruption would be burned away in the fierce light of the public eye and set right by public vote.
Such a system has two primary area's of weakness that need to be addressed, and neither of them are that the public is too uneducated to decide whats good for it.
Funding to establish itself and the infrastructure required to grow it.
Ensuring the security of the system from corruption and interruption of service.
Provide these two things and every dissatisfied voter will eventually turn to this system until only it remains.
Why? Because you want your opinion to matter.
Today elected politicians throwing the public a crumb while their parties have the banquet is not the exception, it is the norm.
Voting on the issues your vote weighed with all others on that topic the outcome brought directly to government EVERY TIME will ensure that.
This one simple fact will draw disenchanted voters away from parties altogether to the referendum representational mechanism until all that is left is the government serving the will of its people.
Jun 8 2013: As said in previous responses to others it's the E2D movement you're talking about, and I have a conversation on it on http://www.ted.com/conversations/18759/does_your_country_have_an_elec.htmlJun 6 2013: We really need to think about using the technology we've achieved to change the way we govern ourselves. We should replace the House of Representatives with the people's vote directly using the internet, libraries, direct mail or by any other means. Remove any voting from the Senate. Their job will be to present legislation and inform their constituents on how it will affect them so they can make an informed decision.
Jun 8 2013: Yes, E2D (Electronic Direct Democracy)!
Feels like I'm spamming but most people here seem to be wishing to see this kind of thing so I'll post a link to the conversation I'm having about it here as well.
Jah Kable
Jun 5 2013: Yup, they all should be banned and everything that they do should be directed and decided by the people. The parties vote on a bill... NO. We vote on the bill, they can write it but we decide for every piece of legislation. We become the House of Reps. We become the Senate. We become the Congress. Then the question of the president would arise, I'm guessing, but I'm not going there :/ . With the tech we have today, as I've stated on other conversations, we can all vote in a matter of a minute. It would take time to read the legislation in question and that would be the majority of it but people have time to do this, which they will deny because they can't miss that game that's on or new episode of whatever people are watching now. Our technology allows us to do things in a very fast manner and this could be one of those things. Then the people would be actively participating in gov't CONSTANTLY instead of voting for someone who IMPLIES they have the same beliefs, motives, or goals only to change their mind in the future without the suggestion coming from the population they represent. I think i kinda ranted a bit there but you guys are smart you get the idea of it. Refine it, improve it, do whatever to it, I'd be happy if you did. We definitely need a change because the way things are now is like 2 kids arguing to their parents, Never ending and immature. For goodness sake, they're more concerned with making the other party look bad than they are about actually SOLVING the issues. This should not sit well with most people who have functioning brains.Again do whatever to this IDEA, I'd be happy that you did. It would just show me I was on the right track and needed someone else to accomplish it, furthering my belief in cooperation over competition. Thanks!
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Jun 5 2013: Jah,
I'm part of a party and movement that do exactly what you advocate.
I would be happy if you joined http://www.ted.com/conversations/18759/does_your_country_have_an_elec.htmlJun 6 2013: you're right but you've over-simplified the solution. how can all people be sufficiently informed on every subject as to make the best decision? many seemingly great ideas turn out to be terrible when all the facts are known.
Jun 6 2013: People need to be educated on how their government works, there is no doubt about that. Until that is achieved this will only intensify the problems at hand. I would hope that people would be happy to participate once they are able to thoroughly understand.
Jun 7 2013: that's the easy part. they also need to know the details of the bills they will be voting on. why would you want the general population voting on things as complex as financial reform or foreign policy? if a bill comes around about libor rates, and people who've never worked in the financial sector and probably don't even know what libor is will make up most of the voters. similarly if a bill was proposed regarding standards of bridge construction, would you want people who don't know anything about engineering voting on it?Jun 8 2013: Ben,
People that don't know anything (or have an opinion) about taxes won't vote on such things and then they're votes will be cast as blank votes, therefore not affecting the outcome.
Or you could delegate your vote to a politician (read educated friend or trusted official) that you trust and you think has a good idea on what the question is all about.
For example: many of my friends trust my judgement on certain topics, on those I could get their vote to represent them and therefore they don't have to know every aspect of everything. So I could represent someone on say Human rights issues and they could represent my vote on education issues. I know many teachers that know way more on education then I do and I would trust them to make a better decision then I would.
People are already more or less educated, they're just educated on different issues and if we allow people to go into a specific area that they're already good at without doing all the political mambo-jumbo we could release so much potential.Jun 29 2013: That's an intrinsic negative in democracy...complacancy and ignorance. But we can do nothing about that but accept it. at least we should have a proper system in place.
Jun 29 2013: yep, and we sort of do, we elect officials who we expect to convene impartial groups of experts to advise them on the best ways to do things so they can make informed decisions, but unfortunately it's become quite corrupted because interest groups put forward their own 'experts' and so even the most honest politician ends up making the wrong choice. that's not to say that our current system doesn't work, it just means that we need to get people trying to influence politicians for their own ends out of it.
Amar Sharma
Jun 5 2013: Well, it is a nice question. Poltical parties are only interested in their welfare only. After winning election they use to plan and work accordingly to win in further election. In this condition the ruling party only concerns about the region from where they get votes and where they can improve by doing some impressive and highlighted work. it becomes a very common problem of our democratic system. If the party conservation is emilimated, the ruling person will work according to the need of people.
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But in this age , it seems quite impossible.Jun 4 2013: I would add: No private funding of candidates. Government should fund debates and publicity based on which candidates were able to get specified number of signatures first.Jun 4 2013: Complete campaign finance reform is the only way of getting money out of politics and good luck in accomplishing this! If we had campaing finance reform, politicians would have the necessary additional time to spend working "for the people"...the foundation of all democracy. It's money and the power it creates which encourages the formation of "Parties" and a government which no longer represents the average citizen. But once they've gained their power/control, they're not abt to give this up in order to regain our intended democratic form of government. It would require a complete revolution and the subsequent re-building of our nation and in the process, we would lose our control over the planet. GOOD LUCK!Jun 4 2013: Put it on the political agenda as a first on the to list .
The lobbyists vs the people .Jun 3 2013: G'day Casey
In the world.
People in these Political parties serve their party first & then their backers & then maybe the people who they are suppose to serve which of course has nothing to do with democracy. True democracy has spokes people who speak for their constituents & if they don't they are out in some cases quite immediately.
MathewJun 2 2013: I don't think political parties should be banned. What I see is that they should be supplanted by a higher form of civilization. Politics only exists the way it does because of a very few things that have been overcome. One is paper. Government observes the politics of paper. And paper is open-ended. We accept that we can just communicate but we can't demand attention or categorical answers. Thus we still live partly in the age of the printing press. And we have layers of "representative" democracy with huge cracks and places for corruption. Now let's realize two things, one, we can make a template for an entire accomplishment instead of passing letters back and forth. We can build in mechanisms that close the ends of paper. What's more, we don't have to have layers of representatives going off to place where there are limited time slots and the inability for people to turn linear information on paper into dynamic knowledge. We therefore bring the government to the people and use the entire time spectrum--no more of this elitist Congressional vacation crappola. Lives are at stake. Further, we have heard people say technology "flattens hierarchies". Well it doesn't unless we make it so. It is possible to replace the model of representative democracy with true democracy in egalitarian collectives. Journalism can be radically changed to be part of the progress engine. I have explored all these things for over 20 years so I am not just musing out loud for the first time. The only questions are can you achieve an ideal? where should it start to prove it's power? Can it be self-sustaining and profitable? Can you get enough money to make it through the period of getting enough talented people to give their all? And can you set precedents that leave no vulnerabilities for others to come and squash you? Do we need permission? No. Is there anyone who can grant that much permission? No. Is there anything in politics or government that can reform itself to this level? No.Jun 2 2013: I rather agree with your proposition; however, I can also see that parties - especially a two or three party system - have the ability to organize, coalesce and focus issues, actually have more incentive to compromise. To explain, "bi-partisan" action yields a higher level of justification of political action, and a higher level of societal cohesiveness,
I think the United States needs public financing of elections as the only real way to fix the obsession to obtain money, the absolute necessity for vast quantities of money in politics, necessary to compete in US politics. Only public financing of elections will address this problem, and return representative government to the people.
A second important change, would be to force the Senate to change its rule on filibuster, which is now a filing of a one page form by Senate leadership, which by filing, prevents a Constitutionally mandated simple majority vote where the Vice President (the Senate President) breaks a tied vote, requiring a 2/3's majority vote instead, which is not what the Constitutional stipulates. Our present paper filing to require a 2/3 majority, is quite extra-Constitutional. I believe it is not Constitutional.
Reorganizing both Senate and House Committee structure would help, as well. I read that the last Supreme Court Nominee had to appear before 113 committees, many two or three times, before a confirmation vote. There is considerable redundancy of responsibility and power, originally providing work-a-rounds of obstinate members, but the system now allows any committee chairman, or a few committee members to block any legislation for any reason. I have over simplified this problem, but combined with money politics, this becomes a real problem. Maybe eliminating money from politics, will mitigate this problems too. Certainly committee politics is where lobbyist thrive.Jul 1 2013: Spot on. And Religion has also weeded its way into our political parties. Thomas Jefferson warned against that.Jul 1 2013: Well. In my understanding, you want to ban any organization. Are you crazy? I am not so much.Jun 30 2013: The problem, as I see it, is that the "monied interests" (call it banks, CEO's, Wall Street, the parties or caved-in politicians) have usurped their powers to the point where they are no longer answerable to the "people". This has created a problem as the electorate's desires are no longer being heard/listened to. Much as the banks were determined to be "too big to fail". When organizations, including the parties, no longer listen to their electorate, they must go in one way or another.Jun 29 2013: I was just viewing the pictures from the bottom of the ocean and I wanted to learn more about things I know little about.Jun 29 2013: But, aren't each of us responsible for the representatives we elect?
Is the perverse nature of the District of Columbia corrupting our representatives? Two possible solutions:
1. We turn DC into a national park with monuments and museums... moving the government to....
I don't know.... Liberal Kansas? It's kind of centered in the country.
2. We put our representatives into the maelstrom and pull them out after a short time so they don't get too corrupted...
term limits.Jun 29 2013: ...what we deserve is a devastating revolution and start all over again with nothing...!
I disagree that humans are not self-serving and selfish. I think that's where some of our intrinsic problem lies: we have become so self consumed, spoiled and advanced(???), that we no longer feel we have need for one another. Instead of being a co-operative, mutual aid society, we have become fractionalized into Republican vs. Deocrats, whites against blacks, enemies vs. friend, have vs. have-nots that it's become a useless pasttime just stomping on others in a mad rush to obtain the summit. Which, of course, no one ever reaches alone!Jun 29 2013: But I wonder if we do not live in a sort of police state since none of our politicians follow the expressed wishes of their constituents. Once elected, they do as they please.Jun 29 2013: Parties are one of orgnizations which is man-made problem to make unequal amond people.Jun 28 2013: That kinda puts a damper on freedom of association. What should be banned are laws that make it hard for new parties to access the ballot box.Jun 27 2013: I feel personally that parties should be abolished and that citizens should elect PEOPLE ( for what they individually stand for) but good luck with enacting this agenda!Jun 26 2013: How do you propose to eliminate political parties? It cannot be done without prohibiting all human communication. When two people agree on a political issue and decided to cooperate with each other, you have a political party, regardless of whether or not it is enshrined in law.Jun 21 2013: In case you guys wanted to know my unrealistic ideas... lol
1. I think there should be one representative for this country as a whole, so yea keep the president, and VP for just in case scenarios.
2. Instead of congress, who is just as corrupt as anything else, they should be replaced with the governors that sit at the round table with the president and the cabinet. Since they're most involved with the states.
3. Then mayors who consult with the governors, councilmen/women who consult with the mayor.
4. We should remove our troops that are in other countries unwanted, set them up on and within our borders
5. Only troops we release will be, A. in cause of a war or B. on some peace corp type mission to help other countries
6. No secretive meetings, all info disclosed to citizens only through whatever means is more secure, we need to make citizenship more exclusive.
7. All officials are voted on by the people, all issues/laws/acts are voted on by the people and carried through by the government. We the people should have the right to remove a police officer/military officer who is being unethical or abusing their position, as with any government official. no one has unlimited passes to be appointed, only 2 terms for each government position.
7. We need to put morality and ethics back into the government and back into the people, things need to change about the kind of behavior we promote in our media, we should promote more ethical, peaceful, considerate behaviors.
8. And lets start chopping some of these laws that are merely forms of aggressive marketing and sales for sponsoring companies.
And lets celebrate individualism, all these labels are dumb that's why there are so many sub labels, no one completely agrees with one party unless they're forcing themselves to
Please don't be too harsh on my unrealistic-ness. lol.
Kunal Puri
Jun 24 2013: The reason we can't just get rid of Congress and replace it with the governors is because then the urban districts will have a major advantage over the rural districts. It's the same reason Congress has two chambers. The reason that Congress is corrupt isn't because it exists; it's because special interests pay for political campaigns. We need to instate a limit on campaign contributions, and it needs to be really low. Candidates should be forced to use low-cost methods of communication such as Youtube.
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Jun 29 2013: Not necessarily true about urban regions....a flat tax would help create an even playing field. I mean ten percent of any and all income for every one earning a living and that includes especially corporations and banks. Wrong about congress....the reason congress is corrupt is because it is inhabited by corruptible humans. The smaller the number of people involved in governing the smaller the chance there will be corruption. We can't get away from the fact that people can be corrupted. I do, however, agree with your idea of limits on contributions, but I would take it further and declare a ban on any corporation making donations to any political party. Individual contributions can be set at a low number.Jun 29 2013: Your idea is brilliant. Non partisan 'managers', which is what governors are and a non partisan chairman, which is what the presidential office could represent would be of immeasurable benefit to your country. There will be a lot of opposition to the idea of change in the form of government....but don't be dissuaded. Humans tend to react to change the same way.....it scares them because it represents the unknown. 'Better the devil you know than the devil you don't' is a well known failing of our species. As much as the ideals behind your government are sound, the administration of all ideas depend on people and, unfortunately, people can be bought. That is why existing legislation on corporate law has to be dramatically curtailed. Corporations need to be confined to their country of origin. Internationalism has given strength to the greedy and power mad executives of the world. Outlaw all donations to government by corporations and institute a flat tax of 10% across the board to all corporate incomes. The federal reserve bank needs to be closed down and banned for eternity. Allowing a privately owned company to have control or influence on the nations finances is a BIG mistake. Banks need to be nationalized for the length of time necessary to fine comb through their assets and practices so they are much more transparent to the auditor general and his staff of forensic accountants. Keeping banks and corporations within reasonable boundaries, transparency of operation and continuous scrutiny of their transactions will result in a much lower rate of crime and a lessening of the tax burden from the middle class to corporations that currently make massive profits and pay little or no taxes..
There's a lot more that needs to be done and I think your ideas are worth developing. It would be good to see government 'of the people for the people' don't you think?


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