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Barrow dad appears in court for hitting his son, 13
Last updated at 16:33, Thursday, 01 November 2012
A DAD has appeared before magistrates for smacking his 13-year-old son's bottom with a slipper.
The 33-year-old, who cannot be named in order to protect his son's identity, committed the offence in their Barrow home on October 4.
Mr John Appleby, prosecuting, told Furness Magistrates' Court the matter came to light the following day when a member of staff overheard the boy talking at school.
The matter was reported to the school's safety officer who then spoke with the boy.
He said his dad struck him on the bottom five times with a trainer.
The safety officer could see no marks on the boy, but he said he was "very scared" and had been in tears.
The dad told police he felt "terrible", but said there had been problems with his children and recently there had been "more downs than ups" in the home.
He told police he hit his son "three or four times" with a slipper, not a trainer, after the boy used foul language towards him.
He said he did not use his hardest force, but confirmed his son had been in tears and was sent to his room.
Mr Trystan Roberts, defending, told the court on Tuesday: "He has perhaps behaved inappropriately and gone too far in terms of disciplining and let his frustrations about life get to him. He has shown an enormous amount of remorse and bitterly regrets his actions and it's not likely to happen again."
The dad admitted assault by beating.
Proceedings were adjourned until Tuesday for the preparation of a probation report and the dad was granted unconditional bail.
First published at 09:54, Thursday, 01 November 2012
Published by http://www.nwemail.co.uk
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Oh dear me what's this world coming to 100% behind the dad
During the riots in 2011 many of the commentators blamed 'lack of discipline in the home' or 'no father figure role model' or 'no recognisable family structure' this case ticks all those boxes but the 'role model' ends up in court. This country is disappearing up it own rear end.
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French shredding the Welsh at the scrum there, earned their penalty.
Can't believe that decision tho; effectively runied the spectacle now. Not often I feel sorry for the Welsh, but...
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Another missed kick. I know it was a long way out, but they need to nail those. It would be interesting to see how the French respond if Wales do nick a lead from somewhere.
Hook having a shocker; this is so disappointing
Didn't realise Martin Atkinson was reffing this match.
Seemed harsh but Wales have done well not to be overrun in the rest of that half. France don't look that good so if Hook can get his kicking boots on all hope is not lost yet.
I realise Clerc wasn't seriously injured but Warburton's spear tackle was a fair red card in my view. Real blow for Wales particularly with Adam Jones gone early. Overall I thought it was a pretty average first half, neither side making the most of their chances with Hook missing most of Wales' opportunities to score points and France bombing try scoring opportunities when they've been in the Welsh 22.
Can't agree. Warburton lifted him over the horizontal, yes, but he didn't slam him into the ground.
We have three back row forwards in our commentary team in Pienaar, Dallaglio and Martyn Williams and all said the same thing: Warburton hit him too well and it lifted him up. The big Welsh #7 must have a good three stone on Clerc.
How is that a spear tackle, he just hit him hard then let him go long before he hit the ground. Not his fault the surrender monkey got taken off his feet so easily.
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Harry Reid is starting to make me think I've been channeling way too much energy into painting Biden as a gaffe factory
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The eagles that have nested near the Coast Guard Station are more visible than most.
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Their nest should be protected from too much human contact because the Coast Guard station is enclosed by a fence erected to protect cladonia perforata, an endangered lichen species, Teague said.
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Lisenbe said he's seen enough of the mature eagles in just a single month to capture six to 10 photographs. His friend Jim Dunkle also has snagged some images of the eagles.
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Other bald eagle nests in Okaloosa County include one in the Shalimar area, three on along waterways on Eglin's reservation and one north of Rocky Bayou in Niceville
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Dan Voegele of Bismarck along with Neil Pederson of Valley City helped load the engine owned by Jon and Lori Jury of rural Valley City early Monday morning.
Perennial tennis championship contender Grand Forks Red River visited Valley City for an Eastern Dakota Conference match on Thursday amid a week of heat-induced schedule changes.
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The Valley City State football team has announced its team captains for the 2013 season.
The Vikings named Matt Craft and Jake Miller as new team captains to join Jake Thurston and George Trujillo, who were named team captains following spring practice.
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Viking golf opened the season Wednesday with a solid showing at the University of Jamestown Open on the 6,637-yard, Par-72 Hillcrest Golf Course.
Four Vikings placed in the Top 10, led by Haley Christofferson, who shot a 90 for sixth place in the women's division. Alyssa Tait carded a 101 to finish 11th.
In spite of resistance from some Valley City residents, the city utilities has begun installing an automated metering system which will eventually replace resident's old utility meters.
According to Valley City Electric Supervisor Stan Hansen, four gateways or receivers have been installed in various locations throughout the city with two more still on the way.
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A Valley City State University memorial scholarship fund is being set up in the honor of Steve Welken of Valley City, said Allison Kasowski, assistant director of annual giving for VCSU Thursday.
Welken died in a car accident south of Valley City on Aug 24.
Welken had strong ties to VCSU where he taught accounting classes and spent many hours promoting and volunteering. Executive Director of University Advancement Larry Robinson said Welken served on the VCSU Foundation Board and V-500 Club.


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What's one thing you wish you had learned in school?
Maybe it's not your traditional math, science, social studies, or arts and humanities class--maybe it's something different. If you could learn one lesson in school, what would it be?
Letitia Falk
Nov 3 2011: Okay, this may sound crazy...but I wish I had more sex ed. For one thing I think that this is an extremely pressing concern for controlling population growth worldwide but on another note the sexual education provided by schools (if provided at all) is very clinical and sex-negative. Sexual education tends to cover reproduction and disease prevention but contains little to no information about sexual orientation, sexual relationships or sexual skill.
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I am still recovering from the baggage associated with having had sex without having developed the knowledge appropriate to engage in sexual relationships yet, and I didn't become sexually active until I was 22: this isn't a matter of age but of education. I distinctly remember reading a single vague line in my grade 12 biology text book that said that the clitoris was for "vaginal lubrication" which is not only misleading since it makes the clitoris sound like a gland, but is a ridiculous understatement. No wonder 10% of women will never experience an orgasm (70% of us don't actually know where the clitoris is)! Can you imagine a man not being able to locate his penis? I think that this is a huge problem, its extraordinarily easy to fix, and the benefits would be pretty staggering. Who doesn't want women to want more sex?
Sexual relationships are incredibly important for personal happiness. I think that a sexually satisfied population would be less likely to engage in violence. And I personally would have liked to have learned more in school and less through trail and error.
Nov 3 2011: Very thoughtful post. You make some great points. And I loved the line "Who doesn't want women to want more sex?" Who could be against that?
I was fortunate growing up that I had an older brother (7 years age difference) who had a class in college that used McCary's Human Sexuality. When I was 15 or so I read that book more than any of my own textbooks, for sure!Nov 3 2011: Information concerning sexuality is indeed important. However, that would include information on the moral aspects of sexuality and on not treating others as sexual objects. Although it may seem outmoded and unrealistic to many, an argument can be made that sexual relations should be confined to marriage. Think of all the problems nvolved in sexual activity outside of marriage, e.g., broken relationships, sexually transmitted diseases, sexual addiction, human trafficking, etc.
Nov 3 2011: I have a different opinion about this, but I think that married people deserve good sex too ;)Nov 3 2011: Some married couples find sex outside of their marriage can relight their own relationships. Perhaps marriage had the right intention but since humans have been trying and failing to stick to its limitations (at least those imposed in our western society) for thousands of years, it might be time to admit that it goes against our biology and perhaps the vows could do with a rethink?
Nov 3 2011: Oliver, I've been thinking along these same lines for a while now. I tried to post a conversation on this topic itself yesterday but it was flagged and removed...perhaps some traditions are so ingrained in our culture that even the TED community doesn't want to discuss them?Nov 3 2011: Sex eduction at my school was a joke. The teacher giving the class seemed embarrassed by it all. One poor girl asked a question and was told by the teacher not to ask such rude questions!?!
I think you're so right Letitia, about the fact that more emphasis is put on the biological side of sex than the pleasure aspect. I had an awful experience a few years ago - sat in front of the TV with my girlfriend-at-the-time, and the word 'clitoris' was said by an actress on the screen. "I don't know what a clitoris is" said her Mother - looking directly at me - "Do you know Richard"? I still shudder at that memory! :-0
Letitia Falk
Nov 4 2011: Oh my goodness Richard, that's exactly what I'm talking about! Its inexcusable that some remaining sense of Victoria era manners are keeping us from understanding basic human anatomy!
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The purpose of teaching/learning is so that each generation doesn't have to re-invent the wheel. Why on earth are we acting like barbarians and forcing our children to figure the whole process out for themselves?
This is just a theory, but I think that people might actually be less promiscuous if they engaged in better sex. I think that people partly go through multiple partners in a search for sexual satisfaction . (Pardon me, let me change that to why women might go through multiple partners-for men I agree its the chase)
Nov 7 2011: Interesting theory Letitia. You could be right there. Although personally I think multiple partners is more to do with people getting a buzz from the chase and a 'more equals better' mindset. The irony is that when you find someone you really connect with and love, the sex is always far better.
We have a problem in the UK with high teenage pregnancy, so I believe sex education is clearly not working in that area.
Another problem is that porn is completely accessible to anyone now, whatever their age, via the internet. And both men and women are getting a completely warped sense of sex.
So, I believe there should be two sets of sex education. The first, at an early age, should be a biology type lesson, with a strong leaning towards how easy it is to get pregnant (maybe throw in a few videos of births just so it hits home). Then, later on (maybe at 'legal age') there could be a 'part 2' lesson, explaining whats what, and how to do it really well.
Rob Appleby
Nov 7 2011: As a teacher of Sex Ed. i consider it one of the most (if not the most) important things i teach.
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Its not about teaching how its done or the biology of it, its talking about the social side of it. How to be safe. Why we should talk more about it. Why its not some sordid thing to be giggled about or covered up. How its not dirty and rude. How to understand how other people feel.....
... just the real life stuff.
Nov 8 2011: I absolutely agree Rob. A lot of people would argue that this is a topic that can be self-taught but when you consider that the most widely available source of sexual information is pornography, you get as Richard mentioned, a pretty warped idea of normal sexuality, plus no information about the social consequences and relationships associated.
I'm glad to see that there still are sex ed teachers around since the program was cut altogether in schools in my area.
Nov 14 2011: My wife and I were both in our late twenties when we fell in love, courted, and married. Now we are in our late sixties. Along the way, she's been kissed by a couple envious friends, and I watched in amazement. As far as I could tell, she did not kiss them, and that's what she said when we discussed it. In the second case, she said his act was drunken abuse but not worthy of a scene.
I have considered extramarital relations a couple times, but thought, "I could not hide the act from myself and therefore from my wife, and I do not want that interference in our relationship."
A few years ago, Cajun and Zydeco dancing taught us a polite, light, kiss on the lips on first greeting dance friends. After a couple years experience and not so light kisses, I decided to drop out.
It was then that I thought through an order of displays of familiarity I was comfortable with: a handshake in most circumstances; a mutual light hug; a mutual touch of the cheeks; a kiss on the cheek; rarely, a hearty hug; a light kiss when expected from past practice but no new ones. All higher familiarity and intimacies are reserved for my wife. (Guidelines such as this should be proposed to adolescents.)
Here's the reason for my concern and earnestness. Every love-making has been better than before. I do not want anything to interfere with or terminate that experience.
I wish every young man was taught my preference: Once you have found the one you love, make love with no one else. "Having sex," especially with the one you love, is out of the question!Nov 7 2011: Letitia : Excellant Post !!! ... Same To You Rob ...Nov 8 2011: I can't agree with you more.To teacher,the sex education is shy to speak out.This phenomenon is moer serious in China.Nov 9 2011: And a related topic - reproduction. How many people understand the nuances of menstruation? Many women in their 30s don't; lots of doctors don't. ...and men, I think they're mostly lost. Knowing some of the details would help so many women and partners just understand and work with their monthly and fertility issues.
Hiro aki
Nov 2 2011: I feel my school (Indian Edu system) told me- learn this, learn that ( science,math,etc).. but it didnt tell me "how to learn"..
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Nov 2 2011: same here. Germany.Nov 2 2011: Same here. USA.Nov 2 2011: Yes thats the truth about indian studies. i am in 11th grade (comerce) stream. in India if the child is not goood in studies teachers dont give a Sh*t about them. If you are not good in studies that doesnt mean You are not a good human being.
Vicky Ware
Nov 2 2011: Same here, UK. In fact I am currently in my Junior Honours year at Uni, and I was just saying to my friends the other day - 'so, does anyone actually know what 'studying' actually entails? What're we supposed to DO with lecture notes?'Nov 2 2011: I do agree you all say that, and you also know that it isn't always teachers' fault. What would you say about a home-work that is copied from a site? It is easy nowadays to do any homework or to write a thesis or an essay, all you do, is going to Google and find what you need and this doesn't help you to know a thing. I am not against you because it is easy to do and move on because you got a lot of subject to study.
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We used to go to library to get a lot of books to read in order to write an essay. who does it nowadays? (maybe only a few) What we have now is, RICH ANSWERS and POOR QUESTIONS. thanks to search machines.
And many teachers aren't trained the way you expect them to be. They know the subject; this means they can teach that it more than enough for government to hire them. Some of them are simply doing their job to get some salary, and some of them are really into teaching.
Now, I can recommend you to read some materials of NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming). It will help you to know how human's brain functions and once you know it you will know how to use your brain to learn. As you have noticed already the NLP is all about the HOW.
When I ask a teacher: "Can you teach a student how to learn what you want to teach them?" Unfortunately they don't have the answer, because they are not trained so. I teach teachers how to teach and students how to learn; introducing them NLP techniques for education.
Nov 2 2011: Do you have a web site?
Tried to get you on Facebook but there were several with your name. Which one is you? You can find me on Facebook too. There's only one of me:-)
Nov 3 2011: Hi Carima, ... Sorry to say, but I haven't got an website yet. I am looking forward to get one. I use facebook as well, if you want to contact me, please feel free to do so, and don't hesitate.
Hiro aki
Nov 4 2011: Thanks a lot Edwin.. am reading abt NLP now.. You are a good teacher =) You are right, its not teachers mistake - to be honest its my own mistake. i haven't asked these questions " How" "Why".. to myself..
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i studied in an ordinary school in India, which is over whelmed by its population , government striving to provide education to all > in this case - only aim of a student is to do something which makes her to get herself( n her family) well in society - with this attitude, the tendency of asking questioned was almost nil. it depends on various factor like school, country, economy, family, society, environment, etc - but no matter how big the factors are, if AN INDIVIDUAL DETERMINES, HE CAN CHANGE ANYTHING FOR BETTER =) Questions create the Change indeed =)
atleast i asked these questions now in my masters(yeah, too late :P), and found the answer - "my purpose" (better late than never =)
@ Daniel Reeves: Am sorry my post is perhaps not relevant to ur question. just wanted to reply and thank a good teacher =)
Angie Picone
Nov 2 2011: Fortunately, my school taught us a great deal of everything, including how to study thanks to the bilingual system.
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Nov 2 2011: Same here, Slovakia ... well, almost same :PNov 2 2011: Same here. FranceNov 2 2011: Same here in Canada.Nov 4 2011: Maybe that's just something you have to do as you grow up. We should strve for it in school, but no one can turn the light bulb (in your head) on for you.
Hiro aki
Nov 4 2011: offcourse, bulb is on now =) nxt aim is to light everywhere on everyone =)
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Matthew Oliver
Nov 2 2011: One thing that i wish I learned in school was that it was alright to fail at things. It is in failure that we do our greatest learning and I really wish I learned that earlier on in my life then I did. I always wanted to be the top or at least get good grades in English, Math and Science to make my parents proud but unfortunately was always a B student which seemed like a failure to me. I didn't learn that by failing or not doing as well as the smartest kids I had other gifts that they didn't have. Such as leadership skills, creativity and listening skills that are all important in todays world but of course are not taught as valuable skills in school or were not when I was in school.
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So I wish I learned that failure is ok. and not the end of the world when I was in school. We can see that many of Ted speakers and leaders all failed at sometime in their life maybe even in school.
Hope that makes sense.
Nov 2 2011: I wholly agree with you Matthew. Not only do I wish I was given the, 'OK' to fail or make a mistake (over-achiever and an A/B student), but I would have liked for that to be a teacher's motto. Too much is stressed on the 'end game' as opposed to the learning process, which can be an exciting, self-realization journey for every student. Much of our individual learning processes get interrupted by the 'rushing through' of a new concept in class or ignored because teachers have to concentrate on preparing students for the State exams so they (teachers) can keep their jobs. Teachers would have a guaranteed 9-12hr day, if they had to make sure each of there students were grasping a new Math, Science, Language or Arts subject.
I heard that not succeeding is only failure, if you don't try again. I've also heard that if you don't succeed the first, second, third...etc. time, you know at least three (etcetera) ways how something doesn't work.
Nov 2 2011: Thanks Loretta for sharing your thoughts, I like your last thought about learning from what doesn't work. It might be the more uncomfortable way to learn but you definitely get to know what works and what doesn't..
I once met a women that said she like to do new things in a really spectacular way because if what she is trying is a success it will be really spectacular but if she fails she thought the failure should be just as spectacular. I thought it was a courageous way of doing things.Nov 2 2011: You are so, so right.
I would have liked to be trained more on perseverance than success.
There is more in life than school.Nov 3 2011: 1. That how and what you think builds your personality.
2. You should think critically and creatively not skeptically and randomly.
3. That intuition is just as good as deliberate and analytical thinking.
4. That science and the arts are not just two different fields, but two cooperating fields.
5. Education is not just about getting money. The same goes with getting a job.
6. That awareness to local and international events actually gives you a view that the world is only one big system with billions of people working together and not just for himself.
7. Every decision you make actually makes makes you who you are.
8. School is not industry. Grades don't necessarily predict success.
9. Event math problems have multiple solutions, more so with real life problems.
10. I'm not the only person on earth and thus my belief system isn't the only right one. There are dozens and keeping an open mind actually helps you learn.
11. The key to life is flow not control. (as I see it)
12. The brain has two hemispheres, use them both, and don't suppress your emotions. It's wiser to understand them.
And that my friends is just a part of my reflection paper. LOL.
Sabin Muntean
Nov 2 2011: On a comic note, http://theoatmeal.com/comics/senior_year.
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But seriously, I think the lesson I wish we all had learned is something on the lines of "really achieving your childhood dreams" as Randy Pausch put it or "how to live before you die" by Steve Jobs.
I see a lot of my old colleagues unsatisfied with what they are doing and what they are studying because they made their choice based on what rankings and the economy and their friends and parents and teachers and the media said and forgot to listen to the most important actor of all - themselves.
So all in all, the lesson I wish everyone learns and understands before leaving highschool is "do what you love to do".
Nov 17 2011: Thanks!
Gustavo Merchan
Nov 2 2011: - rhetoric
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- psychology
- social dynamics
- self improvement
- personal finances
- economics
- time management
Nov 2 2011: Personal finances with concentration on how those credit cards can eat you alive if you aren't careful!! I could count, add subtract, multiply and divide...I took Algebra for goodness sake, but I couldn't make change when I graduated high school and got my first job! A class with real life situations about household budgeting, spending, the value of saving for immediate and long term goals and how to do it...That would have been PRICELESS!!Nov 2 2011: Personal finances that also tell you about how banking works - like the fact that it doesn't matter if you deposit a check at 8am and write one at noon, they'll debit the check you wrote before they credit your deposit.
Also: how to read fine print, the fact that anyone can negotiate any contract (including that credit card contract with your bank), how to compare prices on things, alternatives to buying stuff (our school was all about consumer culture) and just how big a financial burden kids are. Then I might have appreciated my parents a little more!
Nov 2 2011: It is true, in a consumer economy and culture we should know better the value of money.
Know better what we are working for. It is a must to know how to plan our financial life, savings, kids, retirement...
They tell us just what to learn to get a good job, work for others and consume irrationally.
Corvida Raven
Nov 2 2011: I really wish I'd learned more about finances in school. Math is great, but it's irrelevant to my immediate life in a tangible way for me. Finances are relevant to everyone no matter what's going on in life. I know a lot of people that lack financial literary and I think it contributes to our current economic status, and widening its gaps at an accelerated pace that could be on track to being irreversible.
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Soo...I wish my school had taught me more about financial literacy.
Kenneth Bell
Nov 2 2011: Agreed. Took plenty of calculus in college, rarely do I find the need to divide in life. But finances and particularly the tremendous importance of money, never taught, sorely needed.Nov 17 2011: You're the best, Corvida! :)
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julia dillon
Nov 2 2011: I wish I had learned [how] to "fail."
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Nov 2 2011: The 'everyone deserves a trophy' mindset in the modern public school systems is a great detriment to this accord. Excellence should be distinguished from failure, and one promoted while the latter admonished. The fragility of a child's momentary emotion is not as valuable as the long term damage of the 'A for effort' mentality. Of course tact and discretion should be applied accordingly, but a blue ribbon for participation is quite confusing to me.Nov 2 2011: This is something I struggled with a lot as a young adult. Thanks to my awesome mentors I'm growing out of it. I know that school contributed to my fear of failure and risks!
Diana Jelf
Nov 27 2011: I wish they had taught me life skills in school. I remember being angry when I graduated from high school because real life after high school did not resemble the last 13 years I had experienced. I wish I were taught life principles and how important they would be in coping with life. I wish I were taught how to handle money and what to do with it when I did have money. I wish I had been taught about male-female relationships and what was a good relationship and what was not a good relationship. Why was I not taught about self esteem and how important that is to a girl. I wish someone told me that the friends in high school would no longer be in my life. It was a traumatic shift for me. My parents had a moderate income and we had enough food and 'things' but no one told me that when I got on my own I would not have those things...ie TV, stereo, home, furniture, etc. I felt so sheltered. I felt I was tricked. How was it that I was not prepared for real life? Perhaps the class could be called "REAL LIFE AFTER GRADUATION". Or something like that.
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Nov 27 2011: I totally AGREE, I mean schools should atleast make things a little realistic...Nov 29 2011: Sadly, I think this is a parenting issue. There are limits to what formal education can teach you. I'm sorry it was traumatic for you. Perhaps you can prepare your own children better for the real world some day and not expect the school system to do it....Nov 10 2011: That I was being brainwashed
Nov 14 2011: For me, the worst was that I was born in sin. Oh for a little Thomas Paine to help me get through that.Nov 15 2011: Right On!! Excellent comment brian!!
Adam Burk
Nov 2 2011: I wish I had been given more opportunities to learn about myself and what I am passionate about through experiential, interpersonal, and reflective processes. Then the support to go deeper into those passions.
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I wish I had been given real chances to create work that mattered--to me, to my community, to the planet.
Janet Pal
Nov 2 2011: Mindfulness and meditation
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Nov 2 2011: I think this should've replaced "nap time" as kids progress through school.Nov 2 2011: The art of positive thinking, why money isn't everything and how image doesn't mean anything - no matter how much the high street wants you to believe otherwise. However these probably aren't practical subjects.
Nov 2 2011: Geoff I agree that a positive mentality is vital, but let us not forget that we are forging the nations future here. If we built an entire society along these guidelines that money isn't everything and image means nothing, it could have a drastic affect.
I think what needs to be encouraged is not a devaluation of the goal of having material wealth, but an emphasize on how other things in life have great value, such as family, togetherness, humanism, and charity.
It is possible to enrich the quality of a person by invigorating these values, without negative reinforcement toward 'getting rich.'
Nov 2 2011: You're damn right it could have a drastic affect!! An entire nation of emotionally balanced young people, seeking nothing than to further advance the welfare and happiness of those around them..
Nov 3 2011: Morison, wouldn't that be terrible. Can you imagine?!Nov 3 2011: While I see your point Timothy, I disagree somewhat. We both agree that positive thinking would be beneficial. However money isn't everything, and I'm not sure that you are arguing otherwise but I can't see an attitude such as this having a drastically negative effect on our planet as a whole (not just the nation). If we were the only nation to adopt such an attitude about money then I can see where you are coming from with that point.
In response to your view on image, it is at least very often misleading. OK, maybe there is something to be said for image however I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Nov 3 2011: This is only an argument of negative reinforcement vs. positive reinforcement. a similar example would be the argument about self image in advertisement. Many people feel that magazines of beautiful women give young ladies image association issues by making them feel that they need to starve themselves to be attractive.
In retaliation to this form of thinking 'big is beautiful' has become somewhat of a catch slogan amongst those that are essentially promoting a lifestyle that devalues fitness and healthy eating. This is not a successful attitude.
In the same perspective, why attack the idea that having money and being financially successful 'isn't everything?' That sort of negativity towards people who make goals of financial freedom and achieve them has no positive support. INSTEAD we can simply encourage the proper values of unity and togetherness.Nov 4 2011: I am sorry that i am not speak eglish as my mother tongue,so i cannot express my perspective correctly.But actually,i agree with you.
Nov 3 2011: I absolutely agree with you.Maybe we can feel that money is not that necessary in our life after our various exprience,but we cannot instill this idea by schooling.People should realise this idea in person.If told him directly, he would think money is nothing instead of not regard money as crucial.
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Nov 4 2011: Right I think there has been some confusion here. I never intended to "attack" the idea that money isn't everything. Does the statement "money isn't everything" really sound like "negativity" to you? I'm just repeating something that anyone who has lived life until old age will more than likely tell you anyway. If you disagree with that statement then we certainly have very different views about life and what we hope to achieve throughout its duration. However I'm still not sure you do disagree, or whether you thought I was attacking the idea of having monetary life goals.
To conclude, I absolutely agree with what you previously said:
"I think what needs to be encouraged is not a devaluation of the goal of having material wealth, but an emphasize on how other things in life have great value, such as family, togetherness, humanism, and charity."Nov 4 2011: There is a huge gulf between the exec who dreams of nothing but the next dollar, and someone living an ascetic life in the woods. Maybe we could hope to teach an appreciation for what money is: a tool. Like all tools, it's put to use to accomplish things (like, food every day and a warm bed). It allows you to save, to protect yourself from troubles over time. In putting down single-mindedness, lets not pretend that money isn't damn useful, especially when there's none around...
I wonder if a lot of people now think that w live in a zero-sum economy, that somehow, by doing with less, they enhance someone else's ability to have more. Perhaps we should teach economics. Whether you're a Keynesian or a laizze-faire-ist or think it's all bunk, it would be something if we could have a more knowledgeable citizenry in the discussion of national and world economic policies.
Allie Noah
Nov 29 2011: I wish I learned that failure is okay.
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Nov 9 2011: Piano + I wish that school systems would evolve globally to include a three-year requirement of mandatory exchange-student-semesters in other countries.This way children would get a lot of essential life skills and become the global citizens that they need to be to function constructively in the emerging world.
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A really amazing side effect would happen, spontaneous world peace!!
Nov 10 2011: I absolutely love the idea of a mandatory exchange program. Not only would it force students to learn other languages and be immersed in other cultures, but as a result they would become global citizens, more aware of different ways of life and cultures, and create lasting relationships between different countries of the world. Travel is never a bad thing.
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Nov 10 2011: Thank you very much Eric - Our world is yearning for a swirl !!
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I know that few families have participated in international exchange programs before. High school students spending a year abroad, enriches not only the lives of that student but families in both countries.We have all the tools to do it now, airplanes, computers, internet connections, etc. We just need this to be everyone's experience and right away within one generation, the transformation can happen. Everyone would enjoy the tremendous wealth of connectivity, humanity and global vantage point that only a few have had the privilege of so far.
Ayush Kumar
Nov 5 2011: I wish they had taught us to survive in the big bad world out there.. I wish they had made us ready, mentally, to face the difficulties later on in life. More emphasis on soft skills, practical-learning, self-development and self-education rather than just textbook-to-test based education.
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I wish they had taught us to solve life's equations rather than algebra's.


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This thread is for discussing Feet of Clay in some depth. If you haven't read the book then read on at your own risk – or, better still, go and read the book and join in the fun.
For those of us that are going to join in the discussion, here are a few guidelines:
Please feel free to make comparisons to other Discworld books, making sure you identify the book and the passage you are referring to. Others may not be as familiar with the book you are referencing, so think before you post.
Sometimes we'll need to agree to disagree – only Terry knows for sure what he was thinking when he wrote the books and individuals members may have widely different interpretations – so try to keep the discussion friendly.
We may be discussing a book that you don't much care for – don't be put off joining in the discussion. If you didn't care for the book, then that in itself is a good topic for discussion.
Please note: there is no time limit to this discussion. Please feel free to add to it at any time - especially if you've just read the book.
And finally:
Please endeavour to keep the discussion on topic. If necessary I will step in and steer it back to the original topic – so no digressions please!
Feet of Clay by Terry Pratchett
Originally published 1996
I want to thank ChristianBecker for writing the introduction for this discussion.
ChristianBecker wrote:
Feet of Clay is the third Discworld book to prominently feature the City Watch - which we have seen becoming more and more of a serious police force instead of a bunch of half-criminals rather running away from the scene of a crime than helping.
A murder (or as it turns out, two) has happened in Ankh-Morpork. Of course, this is nothing new in this city. The circumstances, however, are rather strange.
One victim is an old priest - neatly arranged after his quite brutal death, his office tidied up, and a rolled up piece of paper in his mouth - covered in cryptic signs.
The other is the (human) director of the Dwarf Bread Museum - his skull crushed in by a vicious battle bread.
As if these two murders were not enough, someone is also poisoning the Patrician, yet no one knows how (or for that matter, who).
And what to make of Nobby Nobs, who turns out to be a real Nob - the Earl of Ankh even?
It also seems like the Golem community of Ankh-Morpork is growing restive and is planning something - while people are out buying sledge hammers.
And in the middle of it all there's Vimes (who's not going to get a coat of arms), trying to solve this riddle wrapped inside a puzzle inside an enema.
I really enjoyed reading this book. In many ways this is an homage to whodunits and police procedurals. It always strikes me that this is not only about slavery but also Pratchett's nod to Isaac Asimov. The Watch is growing and we get to meet so favourite characters for the first time.
But what did you think?
Want to write the introduction for the next discussion (Eric)? PM me and let me know if you'd like to – first come first served.


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Gingrich's Profound Insight On Poverty
One thing every politician is supposed to display is empathy, the ability to put oneself in the place of others and see things from their perspective. Empathy is a habit of mind, but it's also a product of experience. It's hard to see things from another's perspective if you know absolutely nothing about their lives. But even if you have no direct experience, if you have the proper habit of mind you can at least take whatever information you've gleaned and make some attempt to understand people.
Keeping that in mind, I give you Newt Gingrich, talking about why he thinks child labor laws ought to be done away with so we can start putting kids to work as janitors and such:
"Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash unless it's illegal."
Read that again. Newt believes that if you live in a poor neighborhood, there is no one you know who works. He actually seems to think that in poor neighborhoods, everyone is just sitting around, except for some drug dealers. What can you possibly say to something like that?
Now, it may be that Newt isn't such an idiot that he actually believes that. Maybe he's just pandering to the prejudices of his audience. As Benjy Sarlin pointed out yesterday, Newt's campaign is being built on old people, and being that he's running in the Republican primary, that means old white people. Telling old white people that kids today, particularly black* kids today, are a bunch of lazy nogoodniks who don't know the value of a day's work is going to get you a lot of nodding heads.
But this is an excellent case study in how Newt operates. He comes up with a crazy idea -- why not make poor kids clean the toilets in between classes at school? -- then when challenged, he comes up with a rationale for the crazy idea built on an even more insane and factually wrong socio-cultural analysis. The fact that the more he talks the crazier it gets only matters if he isn't telling you what you want to hear.
*Now, for the racial element. Newt is not explicitly saying black people are lazy. But the fact is that in America, when you say "poor," people hear "black." Although most poor Americans are white and most recipients of anti-poverty assistance like food stamps and welfare are also white, most white Americans think that most poor Americans and welfare recipients are black. Furthermore, when the media discuss poverty, they disproportionately show black people to illustrate their stories. All these facts have been extensively documented with public opinion surveys and media analyses, perhaps most notably in Martin Gilens' excellent book Why Americans Hate Welfare (reviewed in the Prospect here). The idea of the shiftless undeserving poor lacking only in the proper values and ambition is inextricably tied to race. I'm guessing that whether Gingrich is familiar with this research or not, he's perfectly happy to evoke those racial stereotypes in his intended audience of grumpy old white people.
Fri, 2011-12-02 13:24
Listen up, and listen good, Paul: you are succumbing to the lazy white liberal stereotype, and doing a dogwhistle of your own: MEAN OLD WHITE FOLK are the Republican base. I have seen so many mean young white folk that I would say that while the true base isn't old, it is white, usually undereducated (high school at best), of any age distribution, marginally middle-class, and it feels threatened economically or emotionally in some way, which leads to lashing out to a perceived threatening group, THE OTHER. These people probably have worked really hard, and see that their work hasn't made them more comfortable or only marginally more comfortable. They tend to be blue collar. They are profoundly unhappy, and the Republicans have given them targets for their malaise with great glee and joy, turning them into racists and bigots without much work because they are afraid they are going to lose their lifestyle, such as it is, to those OTHERS who are not quite human (lazy, brown, shiftless, poor, whatever).
The increasing numbers of militia type groups, fascist followers and so forth are not due to increasing numbers of MEAN OLD WHITE FOLK. They are due to increasing numbers of white people feeling increasingly that they are losing their power, such as it is. It never was all that great. Their perception of the world is that it is a pie with increasingly smaller slices going to them (and they are correct, of course, only wrong about why).
And liberals have done a really awful job of winning these increasing disenfranchised people over, and of showing them that they have a common foe: Republicans and the plutocrats who would suck them dry. Liberals have to quite the ageism, and start educating the masses whose allegiance they have been losing all along.
Fri, 2011-12-02 14:29
Mr. Waldman,
Mr. Gingrich may not be correct about some things, but in this case he is correct and does know what he is talking about. My wife has been a teacher and a guidance counselor in a couple shools comprised of very poor populations. She has witnessed this first hand and is very much in agreement with Mr. Gingrich on the observation of the problem. She may not agree with the proposed solution, but she states that a very significant percentage of the very poor do not know how to work or understand the benefits of working, etc... Obviously, not every single poor person is not working or trying to work, and I don't think he was meaning 100% of poor people. But there is a significant amount of children who have these issues due to the parents they have and their surroundings. If you grow up with free school breakfasts and lunches (and free school supplies) and your parent(s) collect welfare checks and this is the only thing you know; it greatly increases your likelihood of continuing down the same path at adulthood. I think this is really the point he is trying to make, and to introduce some way to break this cycle and give some of these children a fighting chance. My wife tells me she experiences this with the children and it is very difficult to break through to them, ad they do not see any reason to work as a productive member of society as it is easier to sell drugs or collect money from the government (or both).
My wife tells me of parents (able bodied parents by the way) who come in at the beginning of the year and demand she give them bookbags and school supplies for their children (in addition to the free breakfasts and lunches). They come back at Christmas and demand presents for the children. Once again, not everyone does this, and some definitely have circumstances where help is truly needed, but there is a growing number of people who know how to milk the system and it becomes the norm for them, and if this is what the child sees growing up, he/she will most likely do the same. A classic example was a set of parents who visited my wife demanding that the school pay the $5.00 fee for a field trip as they could not afford it. The couple walked in, each with a large cup of Starbucks coffee in hand and both smelled of cigarette smoke, but they can't afford the $5.00 fee? Really????? My wife was absolutely blown away, but she had to handle it in a civil manner.
I could go on and on with numerous examples, and no, not 100% of poor people are like this, but there is a tremendous problem as the number of people expecting everyone else to do for them grows, and the children of these adults have a difficult time understanding education, work ethics, etc... As I stated, my wife sees it every day and she totally agrees with Mr. Gingrich as she spends a significant portion of her day dealing with many of these people.
I do not understand your reference to race on this subject. I don't think Mr. Gingrich was directy his comments at any particular race. However, since you mention it, my wife tells me that the problems she sees are mostly with white and black people and rarely does she have issues with Hispanic people. In cases where she knew of situations where Hispanic people really needed help and she offered to give them assistance, the Hispanic people often would not accept it. This probably relates back to the work ethic that Mr. Gingrich is talking about. The problem lies in the people (race does not matter) who expect and demand (yes, I repeat demand) the assistance and really do not try to better themselves as it is too easy to take from the government.
I appluad Mr. Gingrich for bringing this subject up so that people can debate and hopefully find ways for these children to learn that there are other ways to live and prosper and hopefully many can break the cycle and perform in life differently from the ways they see their parents perform.
Sat, 2011-12-03 06:14
Funny, I've taught among the urban poor of Los Angeles and have never seen any of these circumstances this guy describes his wife as having experienced. And I puzzle over his claim that these urban poor "demand" the things he says his wife has seen them demand-- I've not seen that either. Finally, I'm not sure what he means by writing of people who grow up watching their parents receive welfare-- welfare payments are limited to five years within a lifetime. By definition, that can take up only about thirty percent of any person's first eighteen years of life. Finally, before this writer points his finger of judgment at these people his wife supposedly knows, complaining of all they receive for free, he ought to consider that he himself, his wife, and all his children, if he has any, received free educations from the state. Plus, his wife makes her living working in that system. It sounds like the system of government beneficence has played a big role in his own and his family's life.
Sat, 2011-12-03 13:18
Dmerrin10000 brings up a coupe interesting points. I believe that it is true that welfare is supposed to be capped at 5 years, so I am not sure how many of these people do it. I know some do it using disability (many deserving but unfortunately some fraudulently). Some receive benefits based upon the number of children they have - apparently this is not capped at five years because I know of those who receive the benefits for many years - I do not know exactly how it works nor do I know how they get around any time restrictions if there are any.
This person mentions I am pointing my finger at these people. Actually, I am not - I am stating that we need to find a way(s) to fix the problem. I repeated in my comments that not all poor people do this, but there is a real problem with those who do take advantage of the system. It is a problem for the tax payers and a larger problem for the children who grow up like this. I can't speak for the Los Angeles area as I have never lived or worked there, but I can tell you for a fact (not only from the experiences my wife has in the school systems (working in 3 different systems in 2 different states)) that in the southeastern United States it is a real problem as I grew up here and saw it first hand. Maybe things are somewhat better now due to welfare reforms - I am not sure - but it is still a real problem. I believe Newt Gingrich is from Georgia, so maybe this is why he thinks so, as I know it is a problem in neighboring states.
I do find it intersting that Dmerrin10000 stated that he/she did not see these problems in Los Angeles and another person mentioned they did not see them in NYC. I have no reason to doubt this, so I wonder if the reason we have the issue with it in the south may be due to the lower cost of living here and significantly lower cost of housing. You truly can survive on welfare, WIC, EBT cards, etc... that are available here without having to keep a full time job. This is probably not the case with the cost of rent in NYC and LA. In those areas where the cost of living is significantly higher, I can see how there could easily be a large population of people who are fully employed, yet have a very difficult time making ends meet. Our cost of living is less here and the cost of housing significantly less, so this could possibly only/mainly be a problem in the south or rural areas where the cost of living is not so high.
In response to Dmerrin10000's comments that my wife and I "claim" these things happen and that SOME (once again, not all) demand things, I don't know how to prove to you that they do on this blog, but I know for a fact as I have witnessed it many times by many people. I even just discussed these things with my wife today, and she chuckled as she had a real issue with a parent/student yesterday that only confirms my that it is happening. Maybe it is a phenomenom that is regional or is isolated to areas where the cost of living is less, but I assure you it is happening in the southeast. I am not against government assistance for those who truly need it nor am I against public education, but I am against the fraud that is happening. More importantly, I hope we can find a way(s) to help these children out who unfortunately are being raised by parents and living with people who have no problem using fraudulent ways to receive benefits and have a real sense of entitlement.
Fri, 2011-12-02 17:26
I don't recall seeing Mr. Gingrich around where I live but that's exactly the way it is here. No one works a real job. Some do pickup work; some run drugs; some collect retirement or disability or whatever, and some steal. But no one works a real job. At the local store the main items sold are alcohol, tobacco, and drug paraphernalia. The food stamp machine works but the cash and debit/credit card machines do not; why should they, no one has any money, except cash and not much of that. We live here because it's cheap, and because if we can't pay no one does anything about it, they can't get anyone else to live here after all.
I doubt many of us chose to be poor. But people who grow up around here definitely do lack any experience whatsoever with normal employment. He has a point I think. And besides, empathy is just a good excuse for pretending to help while profiting (with votes as well as financially) by working overtime to make everything worse for everyone, as is the Democratic Party's platform.
Kenn Paul
Fri, 2011-12-02 20:49
Yeah, I'm a grumpy old white guy because I grew up working at SOMETHING since I was 12 years old because my folks didn't have much money and they kept what they had and made me earn (now, there is a big word for those neighborhoods Newt references) my own for spending, and I freely admit I am grumpy because too much of my still hard EARNed money goes to people who don't know how to legitmately EARN money. Newt is right, we need to offer these kids jobs, but you liberals have made it impossible for anyone to hire some kid with zero job skills at a wage they are qualified to earn. Your minimum wage laws pretty much preclude that, and even your obsessive application of food laws have shut down even the most humble child's lemonade stand. Yeah, I am a grumpy old white guy. You folks made me that, and Newt speaks for me.
leo the lion
Fri, 2011-12-02 21:06
Most Americans think that blacks use welfare and government out of all proportion to their proportion of the population, and they are right and you are wrong, Mr Waldman. According to the government itself, 40% of AFDC recipients are white. This is slightly more than half of the white population ratio of 70%. At the same time, 40% of AFDC recipients are black and this is 2.5 times their population ratio.So blacks are five times more likely to be on welfare than whites. This is what Americans know to be true because it is true. No amount of statistical legerdemain is going to convince anyone otherwise because we have eyes.
Fri, 2011-12-02 21:59
I seem to remember that during the first "workfare" programs during the Clinton years, one of the biggest problems with the new workers was basic responsibility. Understanding they needed to show up every day and that they needed to be on time. Despite his "way with words," I'm not sure what he was saying is too much different. So, he may be a pandering, but he does have facts at least mostly on his side.
Fri, 2011-12-02 23:13
As Bill Clinton has said, Newt is a guy that thinks about these things all the time. He is someone that understands that strategies are needed to address big problems. Not just someone naively saying things like "I will close guantanamo because it is bad" then starting a process wasting time and money and going nowhere because it hasn't been thought through.
EVERYONE in America sees the cycle of poverty. Almost everyone that has lived longer than 25 years can see that the populist approach of wealth redistribution doesn't solve the problem (although it can get someone elected). Newt is trying to put ideas out there that haven't been tried and has openly sought anyone's ideas on this and other issues via his website.
It is a sad commentary that Paul and many others on the left would rather try to paint Newt as a racist (which seems to be the response of choice for the left this year) than to engage in a dialog about breaking the poverty cycle.
What exactly is YOUR solution there Paul? Oh yeah I forgot, lets rely on Hope and Change. Great strategy Paul. How's that working so far?
Sat, 2011-12-03 07:29
Having worked with illegal Mexican immigrants when I was a cook during college, and having lived in Harlem, Washington Heights, and the South Bronx (where the rents are far cheaper), and being a conservative anti-welfare libertarian raised by upper middle class white parents, I can tell you Newt Gingrich's comments are poorly informed and Waldman's criticisms are spot on.
I am a Cain supporter. If Gingrich wins I will vote for him. Yes, welfare is evil since it rewards not working. But most poor people do work, and that includes Hispanics, negroes, and single mothers. The worst part about these comments is not that Gingrich is throwing meat to the base, but that he actually seems to believe his own unqualified prejudices are facts. Poor people didn't invent welfare. Welfare, rather, has corrupted the poor. If Gingrich thinks insulting minorities by proxy as lazy is a winning strategy, he is far from the futurist he pretends to be.
William the Con...
Sat, 2011-12-03 12:39
I like Newt Gingrich! Newt is intelligent, well thought out, a good academic, a good debater, and he has experience. Is he perfect? No, but I don't know anyone who is. Newt knows Washington, and won't need "on the job training". Newt is a "real" candidate and is not "manufactured" meaning that he hasn't had his whole history hidden, and then remanufactured through his books as the current president. Before you judge Newt, visit his website and watch some of his speeches; he's a wonderful orator! Newt Gingrich has my vote of confidence!
Echo Parker
Sun, 2011-12-04 00:41
Gingrich is a man of bold ideas. How can we help all these kids from poor neighborhoods, where so few of the adults have jobs? Why, by taking jobs away from school custodians, of course. So that there are more adults without jobs. It's a kind of mobius strip logic that's a little hard to follow, but that's what makes it so bold. Similarly, Senator Mitch McConnell this week proposed that the federal government extend unemployment benefits, and pay for the cost of those benefits by reducing the workforce of the federal government by 10%. Thereby creating more people who need to file for unemployment benefits. Soon, a Republican will support the idea of repairing failing bridges, but only by taking parts out of other bridges.
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The annual whaleboat races saw many familiar faces manning the oars and tillers. Like Bret Favre, who apparently refuses to retire, veteran rower Roy Schoen flew in from Colorado on Friday afternoon to compete over the weekend, forming a new team, the No Name Leftover Misfits HarborFest Extravaganza, or Misfits for short. (Organizers were relieved when the team lost in the final round for fear the tremendous cost of engraving their name on the coveted Whalers Cup trophy would bankrupt the organization.) But it was the two teams that saw little or no changes who emerged as champions this year, Team Whalers defending as men's champions, and Sag Harbor Liquors upsetting John K. Ott and defending champions Bridgehampton Equipment Repair in the women's championship.
The three teams in that final women's race were the same three that faced each other last year. In 2008, Bridgehampton Equipment rowed to victory after Liquors and Ott tangled up in the final leg. This year it was Liquors, with Heidi Schmitz, Hilary Schmitz, Hayley Schmitz and Jessica Eberhart in the boat who rowed easily on while Ott and Bridgehampton stalled together just past the first mark. Lisa Becker was with the Schmitz girls in the boat on Saturday.
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In other contests at the wharf over the weekend, Denise O'Malley successfully defended as Shucker of the Year in the clam shucking contest — a title she shared last year with Monica Miller. And in the clam chowder contest, the public voted The New Paradise Café as having the best New England-style chowder, and Clams on Wheels had the best Manhattan-style.


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This car is as much of a gem today as it was when Florence Knudsen first saw it, so says its current owner, Chevy dealer and noted Corvette collector Bob McDorman. "They can't believe it," he says of Corvette lovers who do a double-take when they lay eyes on it. "At first, they think that someone hot-rodded or customized it themselves. If I'm around, I tell them the story behind it-that it was built this way by Chevrolet."
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Under the hood is a 396-inch near-production version of what our brother-in-law mag, Hot Rod magazine, called "Chevy's Mystery V-8," when they saw it at Daytona in early 1963. Unlike the production 396 that graced the Corvette option list during the latter part of the '65 model run, this one has hydraulic instead of solid lifters. The transmission is a Powerglide, likely the first one ever bolted to a Mark IV big-block that wasn't a Chevy Engineering test mule, and the only one ever fitted by Chevrolet to a 396-powered Sting Ray.
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The total security then leads to inner contentment which then ALLOWS bestest friend Sweetheart chemistry...
This can take much time or little time to accomplish and can cease to exist at any of the steps as listed above....All the steps must be finished,,,,but the end result is security,,,,inner joy,,peace and contentment which can then be SHARED........GIVEN and RECEIVED !!!!
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Our messages were often long and easy to write, and when that wasn't possible there was constant courtesy to let the other know if we weren't able to to get back with a more appropriate response due to whatever reasons. We quickly moved onto texting one another often, wishing one another a good morning or night, or simply checking up on the other to make sure they were doing ok. It came natural for the two of us, we wanted to do these things, and in an instance where she was sick, I asked if she could text me that she made it back home safe from work, despite the fact that it'd wake up me when I'd need to sleep for work. I worried about her, even though I didn't know her extremely well, perhaps it was simply infatuation, but the feeling was mutual.
Soon after that we skyped, and the first one or two times really went well, but then on the third, she was feeling a bit sick, and tired, and despite trying to carry the conversation it didn't hold up too great. At this point she said she felt the "chemistry" was gone after that last conversation, but convinced her to give it another go, as I didn't believe that. After that the next couple conversations on skype went great, and she took back what she said. Long story short she ended up meeting someone much closer, which I was fine with since I was at least 11 hours away, and while I'm sure it would have been manageable, I knew I wouldn't be capable of offering her the same degree of attention someone who was probably within a half an hour of her could. In the end we still talk as good friends, and there aren't any hard feelings or anything.
It's a rough situation Carlos, and in your instance I don't know if it's a case of the person dating other people at the same, finding a closer connection with one of those other people, then deciding to break things off, or if they're just arbitrarily deciding that something feels slightly different, therefore the "chemistry" must be gone. While it sounds like you have more experience than I do in terms of the degree and number of contacts you've made with members, what I have gleaned from my experience on here is that some people are more mature than others. I've had plenty of people just randomly stop messaging, despite having good conversations with them, but I've had a small handful of people (the one I mentioned earlier as well), who've been wonderful, and considerate about how they approach things, as well as how they maintain contact.
Ultimately the person you'll end up with either through here, or outside of it, will be those things I described and not the kind of person who arbitrarily gives up on things. To give a point to women, and men as well, this site's purpose is to find the best possible person for us. Unfortunately as a result, we may lose some that we otherwise thought held a good connection with us. Continue to pray for God to help you find the right person for you, and hopefully someone will see something that others may not have appreciated. My final piece of advice, and the reason I stay on this site, is that it only takes one person to change your entire life, and if you're looking for a good catholic, this is one of the best places you can look. Good luck Carlos.
I hate that word.
I truly believe that when people say, "there's no chemistry", what they mean is, "I don't find him/her sexually attractive".
You don't need that kind of "chemistry". Sexual attraction grows once you have established a mental connection that can grow into an emotional connection which can grow into a spiritual connection which can then become a social/legal connection and finally a physical connection.
In fine, are you on the same wavelength? Talk the same lingo? Think in the same manner? Find the same things funny? Or do you wonder what he/she is all about and where they're coming from?
Most folks aren't patient. Most (esp. never-marrieds) seem to think the sky is going to open up and a Voice from Heaven is going to announce, "This is your Beloved in whom you will be well pleased".
Life and love don't work like that. It takes TIME and PATIENCE, as Kenny has already said.
Give the guy/gal a chance!
According to JPII in his book Love and Responsibility this chemical reaction is a metaphysical sexual attraction that urges the desire between a man and woman. It is truly a gift from God called Eros love (Theology of the Body). This biological gift allows the ability to procreate and bring new life into the world. What a blessing! The problem arises when this desire is translated into a utilitarian concept of egoism to please oneself. Literally, the opposite of Love is To Use.
The chemical reaction is only the beginning and to move toward a more authentic love as Emmanuel states it take two whole healthy mature individuals to take the responsibility of making a choice. Ethical love at its highest virtue is the supernatural gift of Charity. It is the spiritual reality of free will to die to oneself as a gift for the authentic commitment for one person.
The chemical charge has to be raised up to its highest value of Love as a virtue which is connected emotionally, sensually, morally, and spiritually. Love cannot be based on the body alone and has to affirm the entire value of the beloved.
Chemistry is a true gift from God that is an important element for marriage. Keep praying and God will surely bless you with your beloved.


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Initial sales tax reports indicate Cotton District Arts Festival attendees spent more money on goods and food at this year's event than last year previous despite a slight decline in attendance.
Preliminary figures released by Starkville Area Arts Council spokesperson Candy Crecink show the festival drew between 38,000-40,000 attendees Saturday, a number a little under the previous year's 42,000 visitors. Despite the attendance gap, initial artisan and culinary vendor sales for this year's festival are up 19.5 percent from last year.
Crecink said the festival drew more people from various locations than the past year's event as well. 2012 CDAF attendees represented 45 states and almost 20 countries, an increase of five states and seven countries.
The festival's continued success is due to organizers' desire to deliver fresh, new ideas at each festival and the continued support of sponsors and volunteers, Crecink said.
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SAAC President Robin Fant said this year's festival featured one of the longest physical layouts in its history, which allowed more room for visitors, vendors and entertainers. Cooler temperatures and a slight threat of rain did little to deter CDAF attendees, he said.
"Our crowds stayed all day," he said. "The majority of our vendors probably sold the most (goods) they ever have at our festival. I'm proud of this year's event. We stay true to the integrity of our mission; it's true to the arts."
Taste of Starkville co-chair Jay Reed said Starkville's blossoming dining scene helped play a part to boost food sales. Local chefs who add their signature touches to locally produced ingredients allow Starkville to proudly own its growing culinary fame.
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Starkville Mayor Parker Wiseman said CDAF continues to provide a great venue to market Starkville's culture and add additional sales tax revenue for the city's use. The festival itself, he said, is a part of Starkville's identity.
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