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Patient information on intrauterine systems such as Mirena.
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ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure® has awarded more than $411,000 in grants to Saint Louis University Cancer Center to provide emergency economic aid to women who have breast cancer and to enhance breast cancer detection.
Bridging the Gap
The grant supports emergency financial assistance to economically stressed women who are undergoing treatment for breast cancer. The stop-gap emergency funding is designed to allow women to continue breast cancer therapy.
The program includes women in all areas served by the St. Louis Affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Women are referred by a social worker or other health care professional and are eligible for up to $800 in financial aid. Social workers also help in identifying community resources to address problems long term.
Last year, the program assisted more than 250 women.
"We don't want women to choose between repairing a car that they rely upon for transportation to chemotherapy or paying the electric bill," said Rebecca Dougherty, Saint Louis University Cancer Center social worker. "Through this program, we can assist women who have immediate and pressing financial needs so they can continue their treatment."
The assistance is not designed to be regular income. Rather, it is an emergency, one-time payment for expenses such as childcare, transportation, rent, mortgage, utility bills and co-payments for doctor's visits or chemotherapy.
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The "Reaching In" grant funds a nurse navigator who helps women with little or no health insurance receive mammograms and follow up breast health care. The program is for women between ages 40 and 64 who already are seeing a SLUCare physician; their families; and other women in need with connections to SLU.
The nurse navigator serves as the point person for women -- simplifying breast care by coordinating mammograms and follow up breast cancer tests, if necessary, to occur during the same day and otherwise helping women to maneuver through the complex health care system.
"The goal of the nurse navigator program is to provide access to free mammograms for uninsured or underinsured women who might otherwise delay seeking breast cancer screening services because they lack access to health care services," said Amy Parker, SLU nurse navigator for the program.
"We also work to minimize other burdens that might keep women from getting their mammograms, including helping with transportation and translator services. Outreach is a very important aspect of this program as well, in order to connect the women in the community who need services that are offered by SLU."
Heredity Risk Assessment
Funded for a decade, the heredity risk assessment program was founded by Suzanne Mahon, DNSc., a Saint Louis University Cancer Center faculty member who is a nationally recognized expert in early cancer assessment and detection. The program currently serves nearly 150 established families and is anticipated to expand to serve an additional 100 families this year.
"Genetic counseling and testing can clarify your risk of cancer. If you under-estimate your risk, you might not have the information you need to make good decisions about prevention and early detection. If we prove you don't have the risk, that can be a big relief," Mahon said.
"Hereditary risk assessment improves the quality of life for people if the tests are done correctly and people get the right follow up and guidance for what to do. You not only save lives, you make the quality of lives better."
The grant enables Mahon to provide all education and counseling services without charge to entire families, not only to the person who comes in an initial risk assessment. If Mahon discovers a genetic mutation for hereditary cancer in one family member, she offers testing to other family members who may be at risk and recommends cancer prevention and early detection based on test results.
Women who typically are at genetic risk for breast cancer have a close relative who developed the disease when she was young, often before age 50. Women also should consider having a genetic risk assessment if they have family members from multiple generations -- grandmother, mother, aunt, sister and daughter - who have breast and/or ovarian cancer.
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poohcarrot wrote:On the beeb site today, some guy called Moffat said the daleks were going to have a long rest because they're crap and the Doctor has beaten them 400 times.
deldaisy wrote::D *sops at her tears of laughter*
Quatermass wrote:meerkat wrote:Ankle biters, knee butters and elbow chewers* like to be scared. Cos they know in the end it'll be ok.
I used to hide when the daleks came on the screen. Ah the days of B/W! Made it scarier too!
*height of said child.
Black and white sets also tended to be lower resolution in those days, helping to hide the more obvious joins in the sets.
The Mad Collector wrote:deldaisy wrote::D *sops at her tears of laughter*
I think the bow really sets off the effect
ala Dalek voice.I-WILL-SCREAM-AND-SCREAM-UNTIL-I-AM-SICK!
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Penfold wrote:I agree that the Daleks (and possibly the Cybermen) could do with a rest. Maybe they could bring back some of the older villains such as the Sea Devils (maybe a chance of a Lovecraftian homage there), or the Ice Warriors.
What about an ad-hoc poll as to which adversary we would like to make a comeback?
Thordoc wrote:I must be one of the few out there that is not a big fan of Dr. Who. although my first Dr. Who was the one wearing the super long scarf (tom somebody)
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Rep. Mike Karickhoff, R-Kokomo, said House Bill 1219 is needed to protect "those individuals who have the big target on their backs."
It requires local officials who operate public Internet databases containing the names and addresses of property owners to establish a procedure allowing law enforcement officers to restrict access to their home addresses.
An amendment to the bill also added victims of domestic violence to the bill.
The information would still be maintained and open to the public at a county courthouse or local government office.
Rep. Linda Lawson, D-Hammond, a former police officer handling narcotics and sex crimes, gave two examples where people she arrested came to her house to threaten her. One of them involved a violent rapist who had a shootout in her front yard.
"Thank you very much for this bill," she said.
Steve Key, lobbyist for the Hoosier State Press Association, said he is concerned the bill will grow to include all kinds of other people, such as teachers, principals, health care providers and more.
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Key suggested property records could be needed for several reasons, including seeing if officers aren't paying taxes or are living in houses beyond their means.
The bill passed 96-4 with all area House members in support.
A second bill would allow local officials to charge a fee for the time spent searching on public records requests. Currently, if a request takes an employee hours or days to do, the only fee that can be charged is for the copies of the records.
House Bill 1175 would give two free hours of searching. Additional hours would cost a maximum of $20 an hour, or if the hourly wage of the employee doing the search is lower.
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I go through waves of liking thrift stores. Sometimes its like a treasure hunt I can't get enough of, and sometimes its just a store full of crap that smells like moldy basement. I'm going through the moldy basement faze right now, much to my thrift store obsessed husband's dismay. Until……the Jackpot. I'd never hear the end of it if I didn't make it clear that my husband found it, while I was probably at Target stuffing a popcorn combo in my face.
A perfect condition (probably never used) Bernina 910 with the manual and carrying case……………….for $25 bucks.
And it works. The only thing I can find wrong is that it isn't very fast. And it didn't come with the attachable tray table, the one in the picture is mine. So big thank you to whoever took this baby to the Goodwill, it will be well loved wherever it ends up. And to Goodwill…. that disinfecting spray you put in the shoes is nasty. It makes me gag.


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5. Obama's favorite example of government inefficiency, salmon regulation, is code for the two-party system.
4. Pelosi said she didn't feel like a little person until Steny Hoyer "accidentally" tried sitting in her seat while she was still in it.
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Nassau County Review Official Paper of .Nassau County FREEPORT, N. Y., FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20. 1914 Vcl. .XIX, No. 47 Freeport News of the Churches Social and Personal In the Fraternal Orders^ Local Topics HIGHWATEK TIDE TABLE Tt,e-e iiPi.p-«r«lorSaiHh H<«ik. D^.lurt ¦.'.2 I'linU-for H,-,"ji t-.tV Hmj.) Friday. .Nov. 20 9:39 p. m. Saturday, 21 10:33 p. m. Sunday, 22 11:32 p. m. Monday, 23 12:84 a. m. Tuesday, 24 1 :44 a. m. Wednesday, 25 2:44 a. m. Thurs,day. 26 8:46 a. m. Friday, '21 4:41 a. m. Saturday, 28 .5:28 a. m. ;t ol Sermoni, S.rric.* o^' the •nd .ther doincs in tli« churchca and churcb •oci.ties ' I The Loyal Sons' Club of the Pres- | byterian Church will give a play in | three acts, entitled "Facing the! Music," on Friday evening, December | 4, at 8 o'clock, in the Presbyterian I Chapel. Tikets can be secured from j the members at 2.5 cents each. I M.inir About CuesU, ViuU and P.rtiet ot Freeporters .ad Their Friends Doinis in tbe soetat fnXemai oig.nii.lions of j CommenU . Freapart .advicinitr. a nf .Mrs. James T. Powers, wife of the well known actor, returired Tuesday to her home in New York, from a The annual memorial service of Freeport Lodge No. 1253, B. P. 0. E., will be held in the Lodge Room, Sun day afternoon, December U Bro. Max explanations nol lature, on village al by the editor I^!!*!!" '"ii"-'"r."'!".l^fi,;^u^'""Lf;''l» I R'o*e"nvrald"of'N^wVork' Lod'^VNo'."! House. Mrs. Powers thinks Freeport is an unusually clean, pleasant com* munity, and enjoyed her stay immense- ly- May Carpenter is announced to lead ; the Epworth League meeting Sunday Single copies of the Review for sale , night in the M. E. Church; topic, "A at Greenhlatt's and Braithwaite's, Rail-1 Song ol Thanksgiving road Avenue; Michnoff's, Nassau County Review, DaSilva's and Go- betzV, Main Street; DaSilva's, West Merpck Road. tf Thursday being a holiday, this office will be closed all day; likewise the Postoffice and banks. Mr. and Mrs. W. F. Pearsall of Leonard Avenue, entertained a nomber of frienda Monday evening in honor of the sixteenth anniversary of their,wed- ding day Many pretty gifts, with will deliver the oration, and a special musical program is being prepared. The annaal ball of the Lodge will be held in tbe Club House New Years Eve, December 31. Freeport Chapter No. 302, R. A. M.. will visit Melchizideck Chaptei at First Church of Christ, Scientist.-1 ding day Many pretty gifts, withi^'«" Cove next Monday evening .Services Sunday morning at 11 o'clock; the congratulations of the guests, were ' A"'"" w>>l leave the Freeport Club Sunday School aame hour; Wednesday received. A novel entertainment was 1 """^^ °" ^^°^'« Street at , o clock, evening testimonial meeting at 8 j enjoyed with the bountiful supper j —«..-.,.—-. o'clock; Hempstead Bank Building; | served by the host and hostess. Among; At the regular meeting of the Won, Booming Inland Waterway .\ iijevting ill tii' intei>sts <¦; '.i.v (iroposed Inland Waterway to cnrinect Jamaica Bay and Peconic Bays was held at Fraternity Hall Friday even¬ ing. Because of the short notice giv¬ en tbe meeting was not properly adver local trolley on Grove Street. The ''«e<l' ""^^ 'he attendance was small, officers report that business is not so but those present wire enthusiastic, good as it was lust year at this time. : ""d listened with deep interest to the A large part of their traffic is carrying !t»'k by Mr. Kilmer of tbe Jamaica fiehermen between the depot and bay. Bay Improvement Associatnn, who is and a large percentage of these fisher- ! «'so an official of the Long Island Wat- men are Germans. This year they are erways Association, and Philip E. Titt- not going fishing aa much as usual, as many of them candidly admit that they are afraid to do so. For a deal of the WAR INTERFERES WITH BUSI.NESS A far reaching result of the war abroad is noticed in tbe traffic of our man of 132 .Nassau Street, counsel the Inter-Coastal Waterway system, both (if whom havt- made a long study fishing they have to go about 10 miles of this plan and are working hard for off shore, and for fear thut some Ger- ' 'ts -success. At the close of their talk an inform hi discussion was held. Village Presi- In the Fire Department "1>"rri .1 Interest to and about th. fir.ns.a 11 our local d.partnn.nt At the rtqueitof the Board of Trade the Echo calls attention to the fact that the tire apparatus should be given right of way when responding to fire alarm.'^. At present it is the custom for autoisis, motorcyclists, horses and wagons and pedestrikrs to race to the scene of the fire, giving the firemen little if any room, and resulting in ac¬ cidents such as happened to Chief Campbell last week Make way for the tire apparatus. —Glen Cove Echo. man war vessel may come along and pick tbem up and take tbem over •object next Surjday, November 22, j those present were: Mr. and Mrs. Jere j an's Relief Corpa Wednesday evening ¦ help in the lighting, they stay off the ^^^^ Lamb assured the visitors of the "Teddy" .Mohr, for several years a Tiopular assistant in Hagan's butcher shop, has chan2?d to Adel's Marhet in the Jaggs building. ".Soul and Body." | DeMott. Mr. and .Mrs. Harry DeMott, two members were initiated. Miss j ocean and refuse to take any chances. "Thanksgiving" will be the subject | Mr. and Mrs. Theo. Dixon, Mr. and Remsen of Freeport, and Miss Mc-I - on Thanksgiving Day. There will be i Mrs. John McAvov, Mr. and Mrs. James Grodsky, of Hempstead. After thel NOT SOLICITING FUNDS a service at lO.H, a. m., with testimon-1 Coward, jr.. Miss Medill. Edward ! business meeting a handsome rocker \ i'a- ^ _^ i Schmidt, .Miss Esther Dixon, J E. ~, ,. ,*",' "" ,. . r. ! Nolan, jr., Mri-. Robbins and J. Hein. _. , . , ,, ¦ . • Thi- hpworth League ol the Freeport • , The Crystal Lake Ilouse is becoming ^, y (.,,^^^.,, ^j,, j,^,j ^^ entertain- ''"'''¦ H favorite resort for select fishing par- ¦ ",^"^ ^^^^ evening, December 7, I ., Flterich of Cottaire Court Mrs ties which keep the tabes well --"P-• m Brooklyn Hall, Brooklyn Avenue. '^^^.^^^'^^^^^^ phed with the season s delicacies. Tickets are on sale at 2t cents each ",?? ^f^'^"" »"" ^•^'"- ^ • ^- ,^'''°" ; iicKeis are on sale at/o cents eacn. ' vvill be guests of the Hempstead Suf¬ frage Club today at the home of Mrs. At the Baptist Church next Sunda-, , [^Q^^ Vandewater on Franklin Street, morning the pastor will preach upon Hempstead, the subject, "Some Unthought of' ! Causes for Tbanltsgiv'iig." In the [evening, a delegation from the Baptist ! Union of Brooklyn will be present and Charles DeMott of Hempstead bus i t^^e charge of the service. A hearty purchased the interest of Ceorge Sil-1 «""« service will preceed the regular! ver in the United Cigar Store on Rail- i service led by one of the delegates, road Avenue, and Mr. Silver has re i Alexander's song book will be used, turned to the city. Mr. DeMott has i Everybody is cordially invited, similar stores in Lynbrook and Hemp-| The usual Union Thanksgiving ser-| Juegjay. stead. ivictwill be held on next Thursday i .Mr. VanRiper is a native of Brook-j'"K "P "lUch confusion. .", ". , ,. ,, . -, , i''^^"':"'"K'»/,h«^'^"pt':*t Church, at! ;yn^ vvbere he was born about eighty-! Wednesday afternoon the Student fhe ofhcers o the Business Men s , Kl :.i.i. Dr Curtice will preach the ; five years ago, and his wife, who was staff met to begin the work to arrange AssiK-iation held a meeting at the , sermon, and Mr. Gould will offer the, Miss Deborah Talmage prior to her for the next issue of the Student .Mrs. Stiles is now managing a daU'' ing class at the Crystal Lake House every Tuesday afternoon, especially i for junior dancers: in the evening an ! adult class is conducted, in which Mrs. Stiles is assisted hy Harry Betzig. Lest our readers may be mislead in was presented to Mr. and Mrs. Isaac ' view of a similarity of name, I wish j Post, who were married recently An I to state that the .Nassau County Re- orange social and refreshments were view is not in any way connected with j enjoyed. any move to secure funds for the I avowed purpose of providing a Christ- I O I I %1 "'*^ ''^'^''' c<'lebration for the children School Notes ^^ ^^*^ vUlage. I am not questioning , either the motive ov the cause, but j Monday afternoon at s meeting of ; wish to avoid any misunderstanding, the Senior Class, Merritt Cutler and . deep interest of the Village of Free- port and volunteered to secure 2.') new members for the Association. Maps of this proposed waterway were distributed, nn which was iirinted the following, along the lines of the talk of .Messrs. Killmer and Tittmann: SOUTH SHORE Driver Frank Johns of Hose 2 dis¬ covered a tree burning near Foreman's lumber yard about 2 a. m. Sanday. He tried to extinguish the blaze, from which sparks were flying in the high wind, and finally, upon instructions from Chief Loonam, took out Hose 2 wagon and extinguished the fire, which is supposed to have resulted from a fire started near the base of the tree by !ionie children. Patchogue firemen were called uut at 1 :3(i Tuesday morning for a tire I VLA.M) WATERWAY which did $30,00(1 damage, according (Jamaica to Peconic Canall to the Brooklyn Times. -The fire was conlined to the building where it start- "' ed, which was destroyed, hut the gooil Establish an inland waterway for yvork of the firemen kept it (rom the 75 miles along the South Shore of other buildings in the vicinity, the Celebrating Wed¬ ding Anniversary Gladys Austin resigned as president | AN ENTHUSIASTIC FREEPORTER Long IsUnd affording safe, economic roots of which were afire several times, and vice president respectively, audi William P. Jones of South Ocean , I"'^*^*^*' *'"¦ P'easuie and commercial After the fire a man who had escaped Joel Pitcher and Marguerite Living-. Avenue is an jiident advocate of the ;'^'"l^"""'"''.'">^ ^*'.'>-'*'.''- . , , from the asylum at Central Islin was ston were elected to fill vacancies. many attractions of the Mr. and Mrs. Isaac VanRiper cele hrated their sixty-first anniversary of their wedding at their home, corner Randall Avenue ar.d Grove Street, ; who was within five counts of the class j above him was put in that clas", clear isses ' counts of the mg student. Crystal Lake House Tuesday evening. I'riiiiiiksgiving prayer. Special ar- The next meeting will beheld on Tues- rangements will be made to increase day. Decemtier 1. They will hold all the senting capHcity, so all may be ae- their regular meetings al the Crystal conimodated. Lake House hereafter. Xhe Sunday School is busy prepar- , ., , ,,, , ing a siiecial Thanksgiving servicH to At the Hempstead Poultry Show last ,,e called "The Land of Brotherhood" week, William h. Crevoiserat entered I ,,hich will be held Sundav seven Single Comb Huff Leghorns, | j^Ty^^.e^.ber 2!l. evening. marriage, is a native of Red Bank, N. j Miss Estes called the meeting to order J. She is past eighty. She is a rela-| and a numher of members presented tive of the late Rev. DeWitt Talmage. j material. This all has to he gone over .Mrs. VanRiper has been actively several times, but it was thought best connected with the Methodist Church to get all stories, etc., hnnded in so here aince living in Freeport, and is | that the staff could know wbat they still a prominent member of the j could count on having in the December church and the Ladies' Aid Society Village of Principal Arthur has posted a list of I Freeport. At the waterway meeting all classes, according to. the Regents':'as^ ^'''day night a gentleman re- Any student I tnarked jokingly that any peisoii hav¬ ing $25 in his possession would get out of Freeport as soon as he could. Mr. Jones immediately took the floor and said he didn't like such remarks: Free- port was the most up-to-date plac^ on Long Island from tlravesend Bay or Peconic Bay, and when public improve¬ ments were being agitated Fretport never had been and never would be be¬ hind. Dram and reclaim hundieds of acres discovered sitting on a doorstep and of valuable marsh lands fronting on the firemen believe they have found the water. the cause of several suspicious fires in Increase the proiierty valuations by h,h| ",.^r Patchogue. at least one third of their piesent val- ues, thu.-i adding not only to the wel- At a meeting of the Lynhrook Vil- fare of every property owner on Long lage Hoard Tuesday evening a niBii ap- Island, but also to public prosperity hy peared claiming damages to the aiiiount rea.'ion of greatly increased income of about :?2(i lo his automobile whicb wmning first, second and third cock ; second and fourth hen ; special for best | male ovi-r one vear of age, special for best shaped male, and silver cup tor j best dit[ilay. ! Rev. Dwight A. Jordan was the principal speaker at the funeral of Daniel S. Whitney, formerly Mayor of Brooklyn, at the Sands Street Memor¬ ial Methodist Episcopal Church on F'ri¬ day afternoon. Dr. Jordan waa a life long friend and a close associate of Mr. Whitney until his death. Mr. VanRiper also has been a lung- time active member of the .Methodist Church. Mr. VanFliper was for many years a In our last issue we stated that the barn burned at the corner of Bayview and .Atlantic Avenues on the ninth, was occupied hy Fred Christians. This building was formerly owned by Mr. Christian's father, Ceorge Chris¬ tians, but has not been occupied by them for some time. The property is owned by Martin E. Roche, as a sum¬ mer residence and was unoccupied at the time of the fire. The "County Fair" al the Presby¬ terian Church Wednesday afternoon and evening waa a pleasing succe's to the ladies who worked so hard for the event, and the profits will be from S140 to ,•5150. The blue ribbon was, aivarded to Mrs. P. A. Martin's gro-| P°'""'^'-¦°". . ,. ., cerv counter I super'ntending construction of large ' j buildings here and in several other towns outside of Greenpoint and Free- The Epworth League of the Freepori port. He had the contract for the M, E. Church will have the mock trial original Freeport High School building entitled "Ruggles versus the Pader- jn i^^^^ and built mosl of the brick wski Music School" on Monday, De-1 and atone buildings in this village, cember 7. at 8 o'clock, in Brooklyn i Mr. VanRiper is also interested in the llall. This musical comedy has much Freeport Artificial Stone Co., the busi- local color filled with witticisms, hum- ness being carried <in by his son, Ed¬ win H.-VanRiper. issue. THE PROPER VIEW Lasl week .one of our subscribers called at our office for a copy of our last issue as his had gone astray in The .Sophomore Debate Club held a ' delivery. He kindly gave us his good meeting Wednesday afternoon to talk opinion of our paper. In facl he said ever plans for the coming season. It The r, from the taxable values. Establish and develop iiiiiustrits, manufactures and shipping.. Stimulate all l/u?iiiies8 eiiteipi ises on Long Island and cieate new activi¬ ty in agricultural and home develu[i- ments. Atlord direct access to .N'ew York Harbor by the shortest and route. he said wns hit by a tire apparatus in that village. The Village Hoard has taken this uii ler consideration and on their decision will doubtless depend whether Lynbrook firemen have the right of way in the future, <.i are ob¬ structed Il they allow this claim, the firemen will have a hard time, but afesl if it can be proven that the right of way WB! not given to the apparatus. or and mirth galore. It is a gloom ispeller and a sure cure for the blues." P. C. I At the Methodist Church on Sunday I evening nexl Di. Curtice will preach i on the theme announced for last Sun- j day evening: "That Counterfeit Coin: , Where I Got It, What It Taught Me, 1 and What I Projiose To Do with II." I This sermon was postponed fro.m lasl CARD OF THANKS j Sunday at the request of the congre- Editor .Nassau County Review :— j gallon present, the heavy storm hav- Will you kindly, tbrough your paper. I ing made the attendance unusually extend our thanks to the many frienda | small. we are unable to reach per.sonally, for .\ meeting of the Sunday School their kindness and sympathy following Board will be held at the church on the sudden lojs of our husband and j next Mondav evening. Important faiher. F'riendship at these times | matters will engage the thought of means much, and we feel deeply the | the Board, kindness ot so many true loyal friends I The Union Thanksgiving Day ser- Mr. and .Mrs. VanRiper have .seven children, and 20 grandchildren, and are among the best known residents of our village. Speaking of Mr. VanRiper's charac¬ ter, one of the local newspapers well quotes Mr. VanRiper's own words: "I have lived a score of years more than tbe number allotted to man, but 1 am ready to go when the summons comes. 1 have few regrets now. What I have done in my life is an open book. 1 have tried to live aa God would have me and I believe I have partially succeeded. During our rath¬ er long married life, .Mrs. VanRiper and I have enjoyed the things (Jod has given us. We have tried to do as He would have us. " of the work last year. The Senior Junior Debate Club was organized last year and expects to continue success fully this year. An open debate be tween Huntington High School and Freeport High School is talked of, and should such a contest be held there will no doubt be great rivalry at Freeport to secure a position on the representa¬ tive team. So il is well that the Sophomores are getting an early start in the debate line. Solve the problem of shoaling inlets which is allowed il by State law the on the South Shore. This entire sec- example will probablv move of bene>it he would rather ^o without his .uni.er *'? '\"'-* '"«'•'*'=''">• ''""''''' ">'• .'^'^ '« the fire department. The decision ne would rattier go wiinout his supper ,n,^j^ being narrow, tortuous, shallow wjn he awaited with interest. and shifting. (jive accdss lo the South Shore for small cratl and barges from N'ew York, Harbor, East River, Long Island Sound, the rivers and bays of New Jer¬ sey, Erie Canal and Great Lakes, Hud¬ son River and its tributaries and the Intra C<iastal Canal System. The building of this canal will conned the remotest parts of Long Island wilh all the great inliiiid waterway system. Lakes and canal.s of the I'nittd States and Canada east of the Rocky .Moun¬ tain.'.. .Make the weathei a neglible factor in navigation. Orter increased oipportunitie.s for For instance, I am and always have been a Democrat, but I know you are on the level and I can depend upon what you say." That has always been our effort to be sure that what we printed is true, and a word of comment like this nat¬ urally "makes us feel good. ' V\(iN HY DEFAULT I guess we win on the Fire Council argument with ,!udge Creeii of Patch¬ ogue. The Patchogue Argus, of which he is editor, has had no more to aay <iii the propoaition of authority of the Fire Council, about which the Fire Depart- Diciit Coiuiiui of the Review contained quite an argument at one time. IMPRES.SIONS A traveling show appeared in the building on Main Street, opposite the Miss Maude A. Crane, a teacher in , Review Building, Saturday evening and the Grove Street .School, was called aiHyed several davs. After a look at naval opei ations by small craft. home Sunday morning, November 8, the sign on the front of the store, pur- Benefit an area vi 13n scjuare miles by the very sudden death of htr moth- porting to advertise the show, I didn't with a aummei population of MO,000 er, Mrs. Lucy Updike Crane, of Corl- )jke to ask any of our large staff of re- exclusive of the Horough of Brooklyn, land, N. Y. The shock was so great porters to "cover" this event, and Brooklyn and Queens would add nearly that Miss Crane is under the care of a none of them having volunteered, we 2,00(1,0011 more of population within physician and will be unable lo re-' Hre unable to give any detailed account Slime her school duties for a number ..f this "show ;¦ but if it was as at¬ oi weeks. , tractive as the sign spoken of, I guess The following account of the death , comment will he unnecessary, and funeral of Mrs. Crane is reprinted , from the Cortland Standard : \ Mrs. Lucy Oane, aged 6h years, widow 01 George R. Crane, died very WHY "PECULIAR' the Z'lMe of direct liciieliciul influence. (iive Long Island a fair chance to benefit by the construction of the one tliou.-siiul ton Erie Harare Canal toward the cost of which Long Island now con¬ tributes with taxation. Alioli-ih the inr--uraiii-e prtrniurns and neii'hbors. .Mrs. Sarab Smilh and family. Advartlawoont Unclaimed Letters (Frecpwi P«>t Office) CombF, Miss Edna Combs, Ellsworth Fisbbrist, Mr. E. H. Fairfield. Mr. George A. Jones, .Mrs. Emery Longo. (ieorge Moracoetz, Mr. Eid. Runk, .Mrs. W. Seymour Rush, Mr. John Raynor, John L., 108 Waverly Plsce Seaman, John C. Stein. Mr. M. A. Smith, Miss Helen, Wallace Street Trautwein, Mr. E. Ettio Wetchen, Mr. George Wear, Mrs. L. Robt, G. Anderson, P. M. November 17, 1914 Perfection oil heaters, $2.98 Cook stoves, $11.00 up Triangle O'Cedar Mops, 69c 100 piece China Set, $K.98 Flower Poat, all sizes Parlor Stoves, $2.60up I. DaSilva, W. Merrick Road. Tel. 386-W; 5 and 10c Store, 330-W. AdvorUsenMDt rhe Crystal Lake House has an at¬ tractive adv. in this week's issue, con¬ taining their Thanksgiving Day menu. Lewis H. Ross Co. quote some time¬ ly figures in their adv. this week. Adv«rUiwm«iit. vices will be held in the Baptist ('hutch, on Grove Street next Thurs¬ day morning at 10:,S0 o'clock. On account of this union service and owing lo the fact that other engage¬ ments will hold the people, the meet¬ ing of the Junior League, and the mid¬ week prayer service, will be omitted. The Woman's Foreign Missionary Society will hold its monthly meeting wilh .Mrs. Sherman C. Holaday, 155 Wallace Street, on Friday afternoon at 3 o'clock. Mrs. .S. N Gibbons will have charge of the program. Contract Awarded for New Hose House \ An adjourned meeting of the Villsge I Board was held at the Village Offiq^i I Friday afternoon, with Presidenl Lamb and Trustees Randall and Bedell pres- lent. j The following bids were received: (Jeorge Raynor, $2798 j Fred S. Howell, $3150 I .Millard F. Bond, $3483 Ryder & Hansen, $2949 William (i. Miller, $2S96 F. L. J. Lee & Co., $328« ! J. .M. Baxter. $2926 I Otto Nilson, jr., $8434 George Reynolds, $8420 i The contraci was awarded to .'Vlr. I Raynor, he being the lowest bidder, I he to furnish I $1600. George E. Dutell "In the War" suddenly of heart disease on Saturday with a peculiar accident lasl week, evening at 9 o'clock at the home of He was attempting t.o crank his auto- her son, Grover J. Oane, 4 Venelte mobile and in doint; so the crank struck Street. Mra. Crane has enjoyed good , his arm, with the result that he will health until about two weeks ago when be unable to use il for weeks. - Eagle, .she was troubled with a slight attack ; I have been trying to figure what's of rheumatism. On Saturday evening I the "peculiar" feature ! We have men she seemed to be in good hep.lth, and 1 in Freeport who have done that same We noted some time ago George Du-1 !^"V» "hort time before her death sat i thing twice. tell's v»in effort to get into the French '" '^e silling room talking cheerfully : army. Although he went to France-lol «"h her son. A little before 9 o'clock | MONEY IN FIRE FUND enlist, Dutell was rejected on account ! ^^e went into the kitchen to perform j By securing bids on the new hose of lacking the proper number of teeth, ! her household duties and was engaged | f^^ Hose Company Ne. 1, the Village he having lost several in a collision on j'" ^his capacity when death occurred. the Merrick Road when his auto gol i The death came as a great shock to the out of control and "tried to climb a j "'«'"''"« "^ ^er farnily. Mrs. Crane had been an attendant of the p'lrst from Europe Dutell I Vj!!^^^TJl".,5_'^"''''^ *'"'"' ^"" *"**'¦ Charles U. Sto've ot Hempstead, met based on extra hazardous risks. At tree. On his return ^ ,,^ , - i i was quite discontented, and angry at I f'"""'." <^'""^'.*"V . , . the French doctor who rejected him j .. ^he's survived by three daughters, for scarcity of teeth. To George that I M"- David Osgood of Grolon, Mrs. W. was a silly reason. He didn't want to '¦ ^' ^^'^'y °^ Syracuse and Miss Maude bite the Germans: he wanted to shoot '^' ^rane of Freeport, L. I. ; one son, them. Meditating on the matter, he ^J'^^'f/J- ^rane of Cortland; one sis- thought of the British army. If he.^^'- ^"' ^ntia Cole, of Dryden. could get enlisted in that-allied wilh! , The funeral services were held Tues- the French army-be could fight Un'<iay aiternoon Rev. Carl W. Scovel, France, his father's native land, al-! P''«'°'" ."^ ^^^ Presbyterian Cburch, though himself a native of Long Island ''=""'^"'=""K ^be services. In his re- marks Mr. Scovel spoke ef the faith¬ ful and loving devotion of the deceased to her family, and of her simple but effective life. He trusts that the lives of the four children and eleven grand We next learn of Dutell taking an Anchor line steamer to Glasgow. There be succeeded in satisfying the doctor and "got past." He changed his name to George Fran:is—that look¬ ed "more English, you know"--and, ,,.,,,. wa. assigned lo a place in the Royal I "^ ».*''"'^ «' d loving mother and grand- Engineers, electrical department. in ; «'>other may have inherited the same order to get in, he had to d^lare him-i "P""; °^'°^f, ""'^ '°y»''>' "h'-'h «he self « «uh.*t nf Kin<,r,»nrcr« <nr.,h-I has shown all th.ough her life Board has save<l about $700 for the company, as the plans were approved and accepted by iMr. Fredrick, who gives tbe land in exchange for having I the fire house located on his properly, j and by the hose company and the Fire I Council. I would suggest that now that the price for the house is lower than was figured, that hot water be substituted for ateam heat. Having spen* several I hundred dollars to get rid of a steam j plant because I found il lo be unsatis- i factory, where nol watched all tbe ! time, I feel qualified to make this sug- I gestion. present, in many oases, no insurance on cargoes can be obtained and for this reaaon leading lowing lines often re- fu.se sbijiments to the Soutli Shore of Long Island. Any insurance placed is classified as extra iiaZBi'dous. Estahlish a new comjietitive route lor trade and trBHic equivalent to an¬ other railroad on Long Island. The amount of trade and tralhc on Long Island is apparent from the fact that Long Island now supports three lines ot railroad: The South Shore, Ihe Main Line and the .North Shore branch es. The entire cosl of constructing the (irojiosed Inland Waterway would be equal lo the cost of constructing one single track line of 75 miles, the length of the projected canal. This I'IKK (COUNCIL The .November meeting of Ihe Firf Council was held Wednesday evening. Present were C'hiefs Loonam, I'earsall and Smith; Wardens Whaley and Wil liams of Huse 1, White of Hoae 2, Patrick of Hose 3, Sumner and Fritz of Hose 4, Connor and Rupert ot En¬ gine 1, Snedeker and Niles of Truck 1. William Anderson and Kufus Rhodes were dropiied from fhe roll cjf Hose 1, pursuant to action of that Cfirnpany, they being non residents. .Millard F. Bond was iipproved as a memlier of Engine 1. ( oiisideralile time wns spint in dis¬ cussing the Bd\isBhililv of holding (¦onipames In reserve tor second alarms, one of the chief objections to this being the inability to tell whether an alarm was a first <ir second, partic¬ ularly at night. It was decided to have the otticer in charge call up ttie house of the reserve company, there heing but one in each case, instead <il calling up for a second alarm, anil not to use the second alarm unless more men were needed. This wil' be tried as an exfierimei.t, the ideii heing tFiat where good telephone communication can he secu'-ed, the reserve company can be secured even i|uicker, as the apparatus is supposed to be hitched, readv to leave, until a second alarm or recall is given. Recall will be blown as before. ll was also decided to have every general alarm of fire preceded by one ong blast of the whistle, ao that those Cameron Not Guilty great artery of commerce, equal lo^thB heading it will have their 'attention " called hy the first blast, and then will be able to cfnint from Ihe heginning WeeklyWeatherReport (For our readers in rither localitif-s) Friday- Cool, clear, windy. Saturday- (^onl, clear. Sunday- Began to rain, east railroad in public importance, could be constructed al the lost ef cne single track railroad line along its entire length. This shouhl convince any mind of the advantage and the extreme desii-abilily of constructing the pro¬ posed Inland Waterway. Consummate the greatest public im¬ provement established on Lung Island since the construction of the Long Isl¬ and Railroad system. The railroad is a private corjioration built for profit; at night, rainy and windy all day. the canal is a free public utility built .Monday —Rain continued until near- ¦The case against vVilliam Cameron, by the public and established entirely Iv noon ; clear off cold and windy. Tuesday--Cold, thermometer about <toriii bond in tbe sum of i ably having himself Campion, his form subjet of King George, (prob- Standard Gasolene, Bennett Smith. \i 16c gal. G. tf Advartlsement. See Smith & Bedell's adv. in thia is¬ sue if interested,in rubber goods. Adtertisptpeat. Activities at Crystal Lake House Martin T. Ford, of the Equitable Life Insurance Company, a well known sportsman, stooping at the Crystal Lake House, caught a lf.rge basket of big codfish Tuesday. Among the new arrivals are Mrs. Hale, Mr. Kelley, C. Moore and .Mr. and Mrs. Lavine. At the Plaza, Wednesday. November ' 25, matinee and evening, "The Littlest Try my special box of cut flowers, ; Rebel,'featuring E. K. Lincoln as 76c for the weekend. C. R. Ankers. | Capt. Cary. This "movie" play has floriat. Rockville C«ntre, L.L Tele-jan appeal parallel to that phone connection; delivery anywhore, , made "Cabiria" oniqoa. Adppttippmppt. AJ children who are left to mourn the loss , indicted by Nassau County Grand Jury for tbe public benefit. in July, bhgan before County Judge jj^ jmr CANAL A (iOOD BUSINESS James P. Niemann and jury, last PROPOSITIO.N ' Friday, November 13, and was con- The amount of freight receiveil an- He I eluded Monday. . nually *y rail in the communities cn mind) Mr i spoke of how her one thonght was fori The case was tried for the Peoiile by ,he South Shore of Long Island is employer has ^^^ happiness of others. ' District Attorney Lewis J. Smith, and about 600,000 tons valued at more than shown the Observer a very interesting I ^ profusion of carnations, chrysan- the defense was conducted by ex-Judge |20,00(i,000. The amount of Ireight letter from Dutell, written at the drill th'-'oums and ro.-es covered the casket, Elvin N. Edwards e. 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- Haley Goranson
- Manhattan, KS
- United States
Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience,
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Which is more important, to do right or to do good?
A rich man walks down the street and drop a 20 dollar bill. You know he will not even notice it is gone. On the side of the street sits a beggar who looks really hungry. The good thing is to give the money to the beggar, the right thing is to give it back to the man who dropped it.
- Maybe instead of taking this question , as a question of right and wrong or judgment, perhaps what we can take from this is that there are a variety of opinions and many people have different ideas of what is morally right. That is beautiful to me. This is just an example that good and right are almost undefinable, or at the least the definition is always changing for everyone.
Jan 10 2013: I cant agree with you more Paul.
I find it odd and morally wrong to judge the rich person who dropped the money as someone who will not even notice it is gone. How can we make a judgement such as that? Why is a "rich person" often quickly typecasted as someoen who is not worthy of his or her wealth. Maybe they wroked very hard to get there and saved every penny.
Similarly a "beggar" could be due to bad choices. Why is a poor person by default seens as a charity worthy individual? There are many who rather Beg, borrow or steal rather than work, earn and straighten up?
I disagree with the rich being unworthy and the poor being the worthy concept.
As I stated earlier here too... GIve the man his money back and if you want to be charitable, do it with YOUR time, money and personal contribution. It is morally wrong to be charitable with other persons money.
Jan 11 2013: Maaher,
It seems you are doing the same stereotyping when you quantify that "many (beggars), beg, borrow or steal rather than work, earn and straighten up..."
I don't know what you do for a living but I might suggest you give your job to 10,000 beggars to help them out.
Of course, only one can take and do the job, as it is only one job.
I wonder what the others can do?
Jan 11 2013: Hahahaha... I said "similarly a beggar "COULD".... I was merely stating a possibility to consider without making a judgement call...Jan 5 2013: Give the richmans money back to him and give YOUR money to the beggar! This way you do good and right both. Doing good with your time and pesonal contribution is the right things to do.
Jan 5 2013: I agree Maaher! I think/feel that MANY times we can do what is right AND what is good:>)Jan 6 2013: BrilliantJan 6 2013: That is what I would have done. But instead of money I would have given food to the beggar.
edward long
Jan 5 2013: Point-out the twenty to the beggar and show him/her the guy who dropped it. Maybe the beggar will give it back to the owner who will reward the beggar with a productive career so he/she can become self-suffucient. Or, maybe the beggar will use it for a half-pint of Tokay. Either way you are not responsible. Cheers!Jan 10 2013: This is a little bit off topic, but I couldn't help but notice how so many stereotyped the two characters. It is so interesting to me how, we as a society, tend to label people and things by our judgment of their outward appearance (even if their appearance is in our imagination). Just an observation but really makes me want to consciously stop doing that. Great Question. I'm in the give the money to the guy who dropped it and go help the person I perceive as needing help with whatever he/she needs camp.Jan 8 2013: Hey
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All of you have a point but I see it like this: taking anything that is not rightfully yours is stealing. whether you are going to give it away or not. it is equally wrong taking from a rich person as it is taking from a poor person. I think that modern society has warped our thinking and as was pointed out, why is it assumed that the rich person is not a ''good'' person so he deserves to lose his money and wont even notice it.? As you see that $20 fall, you know nothing about this person and are making presumptions based on your own bias. If you feel strong sympathy for the poor person, then take $20 out of your own pocket and give it to him.
John Smith
Jan 8 2013: "it is equally wrong taking from a rich person as it is taking from a poor person."
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It's not "equally" wrong, stealing $20 (probably more than his daily income) from a homeless man means condemning him to several days without food or shelter, if you steal $20 from a rich man he won't even notice it (of course that changes when a lot of people start stealing $20 bills from him). Both cases are stealing but one is far more damaging than the other and therefore "more wrong".
Jan 8 2013: that brings to mind a saying my Mom was fond of saying.. when does two rights equal a wrong?
Jan 10 2013: My mom said "finders keepers, losers weepers." :-)
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Jan 5 2013: The GOOD thing is ALWAYS the RIGHT thing. There is a way of doing BOTH. But making judgements is always wrong.
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How can you be sure the rich man is rich and the poor man poor. Maybe the man you think is rich is a person who has created jobs and the twenty dollars he drops is part of one of those employee's family income....Maybe the rich man started from a disadvantaged childhood and worked thirty years for his money....etc.etc.etc.
In this case, I would call the man's attention, and make him aware that has dropped his money...I might suggest, perhaps, that he consider helping the "poor" man sitting on the sidewalk. (I have never found money....I do call people if I see they left an umbrella, a cell phone, a glove, a watch....occasionally I make food for the homeless shelter...and I feel everyone needs a proper job)Jan 5 2013: It's one and the same. Both men beg for money
Fritzie -
Jan 5 2013: Why not give the person back his $20 and then open your own wallet for the beggar or give him the sandwich from your lunch? You may guess on the basis of your assumptions about the rich man that he will do something you consider wasteful or frivolous with the money, but you actually have no idea what he will use it for- how generous he is, the good cause for which it is intended...
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Jan 6 2013: I agree with you! That is what I would do.Jan 7 2013: Very true Fritzie.
I agree with you.
Jane McDee
Jan 11 2013: Neither.
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Good or right, implies judgement.
Stick with the truth.
The item belongs to person A, return to person A.Jan 10 2013: From whose perceptive will we judge this notion of "good and right", from the beggar's view, from the rich man's view?
The problem assumes that we have only two choices here but there are many more, we can keep the money for ourself, or we might continue walking along pretending not noticing the beggar or the twenty being dropped, and letting events play out without our involvement. We could even tell the rich man he dropped a ten, and still give the other ten to the beggar?
We tend to see hypothetical situations such as this from the perceptive of the uninvolved observer's point of view. In the real world however this perceptive leads to judging what is wrong, and bad, and not what is good or right.
Ammar Gh
Jan 8 2013: If you just walk down the street and see both of them, you only judge on appearance which one is rich and which one is poor. Maybe the "rich" guy isn't in fact rich and he was just going for some conference and borrowed his friend's clothes, maybe this "hungry" poor guy is just a drunk or a drunk addict who would spend the $20 on cocaine? I learned while living in a Middle East country, that beggars sometimes can be richer than you and it just becomes their daily job to beg. And some people invest all their money in appearance.
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There is also a possibility that it is how you see it.
What I would do? I would just give it back to the person who lost it and make a suggestion that there is a man who might need it. If I had lost a $20 I would expect someone to give it back and let me decide what to do with it.Jan 7 2013: May I ask why are people adding the option of "Do both. Give the money back and then give some of your own money to the beggar," and adding other variables to the situation to make the decision more personal?
Jan 7 2013: Good question Colton....I can only speak for myself:>)
I suggest that there are several options:>) The person finding the money could put it in his/her own pocket, could give it back to the person who dropped it, or give it to the begger, could give it back to the rightful owner and say the heck with the begger......etc.
Giving it back to the person who dropped it, would restore the money to the rightful owner. Giving it to the begger would be "taking" something that does not belong to us and giving it to someone else?. Putting it in our own pocket would be keeping something that does not belong to us?
If we are drawn to giving the begger money, it might seem more appropriate to restore the money to the rightful owner, and give money to the begger from our own pocket? That may satisfy our desire to give money to the begger, and it would be our own money, rather than taking it from someone else?
I think it IS a personal decision...don't you? We're only talking about $20 here, so it's not an earth shattering puzzle. It is the principle that we are discussing....yes?
Jan 7 2013: I agree with youJan 8 2013: To Colleen- Yes, I see this is a personal (subjective) choice. But I do not think the actual question of "Which is more important, to do right or to do good?" is being addressed properly in the comments here that I have read. In fact, I think the original question is being avoided. What is the idea of "right" and "good"? What makes giving the money to the beggar "good"? What makes giving the money back to the man who dropped it "right"?
The original question itself is not about all the variables that could go into a situation like this that could effect one's decision, but it is about attributes that describe each side of the question, "good" and "right" respectively, and seeing which is the "moral" choice. This requires the questioning and analyzation of Utilitarian (consequence-based) ethics and Kantian (duty-based or rights-based) ethics. Instead of adding possible variables, we need to decide on a formula to use. This is where the personal choice lies, in finding one's method to use.
Jan 8 2013: Yes....as you insightfully say Colton...it is a personal choice...moral choice...ethics...etc. I totally agree..."personal choice lies in finding one's method".
That being said, it may be unlikely that "we" as a group will totally agree on the question and answer, because each of our methods may involve different personal choices. This little exercise demonstrates some of the underlying challenges with global issues, don't you think?Jan 7 2013: There is even more than just "a bit of judgement" in both: "right" and "good". With all due respect the example is just cute, but merely just addresses the issue of what makes someone feel good for a moment. Social injustices have deep roots and cannot be fixed at pavement level. Sometimes I give something to someone I believe can benefit from a small donation. Sometimes I decide just to ignore such a person. I am painfully aware of the person's need, but selfishly keep my money in my pocket. What is each human being intitled to?Jan 7 2013: It seems impossible to pass a moral judgment without hypocrisy or to do a good deed without hidden vanity. It may be wise to keep both in secret.
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Jan 7 2013: Re: "Best to just play along, and convince ourselves in the process."
I'm not sure if it's best, but this seems to be how it is :-).Jan 7 2013: I guess, you just hypocritically exposed the hypocrisy of my own "moral teaching" thus confirming it :-). Confessing hypocrisy seems to be the only way to avoid it. I've heard, this goes for other "sins" too.Jan 7 2013: Nothing is right / wrong, good / bad only thinking makes it so.
Would have notified the man that he had dropped his money.Jan 6 2013: First point:
Since when exactly is giving money to beggars a good thing?
You cannot, before hand, say that it is a good thing... Perhaps he's a drug addict... uses the 20$ to give himself a lethal dose of whatever....
On the other hand perhaps he can use the 20$ to get shelter for a few days without having to beg all the time and be able to use that time to get back in touch with society, perhaps giving him a job and tada his life is saved.
If it is a good thing to give money to beggars than why not give him 20$ of your own?
Don't you want to do good? Or can you really not afford to miss 20$? If so then why is it ok to give someone else his 20$?
Second point:
If someone is the rightful owner of something... and he misplaces it. He is still the rightful owner than, if it is known who he is, taking what is his is called stealing. (when it is unknown you should attempt to get to know who he/she is but with money this is so extremely hard that I wouldn't know where to start with it. In which case (in my eyes) it becomes the finders... but this is hard to justify)
Which is obviously a bad thing. Even when you can justify stealing from the rich and giving to the poor this is still wrong. The only reason why Robin Hood is a hero is because the rich (in robin hood) became rich by extortion of the people who therefor became poor. So he was merely returning money that was stolen from the poor.
Jan 7 2013: Good point Rchard,
Add this, dint the rich man see the beggar on his own ?
Are you also another rich man or another struggling person as well ?
David Fuchs
Jan 6 2013: Here is the simple solution. Do both, return the money, then buy the beggar a meal with your own money.
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Jan 7 2013: Hi david, I love your response so much. Why must feeding the beggar be from money that fell from somebody?if a man thinks of doing good it is divine for him to pay the price. In this case he should with his own money buy food for the poor beggar.Jan 5 2013: Over my door is a sign "Return With Honor". That would, in my opinion involve "Choosing The Right". In your example it is a straight forward option of choosing the right. Doing good should never be at the expense of others. Many people do a good deed for all the wrong reasons. Doing the good work is private and personal if you seek credit or building brownie points I question your deed and your motivies.
In my life it is important to do both. But never one at the expense of the other.
All the best. Bob.Jan 5 2013: Give money back to the rich guy; his money is not your business. And give the beggar what you can afford from your own wallet.
It'll be good and right :)
Jan 6 2013: I agree!Jan 5 2013: what is not right, can not be good, and what is not good, can not be right. in such cases, good and right are the same thing.
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edward long
Jan 5 2013: That, sir, is a matter of opinion. :-DJan 10 2013: Very good. You posed a question and then gave the only possible answer. A pleasure to read a TED post from a intelligent person, so rare.
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ritu bachani
Jan 9 2013: hi haley ,according to me both are important and sometimes accidently people want to do good to others but it happens to be the wrong way or vice versa .Yes it is the situation or may different perspective of people which define what is right and good.
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Jan 9 2013: Kate Blake is correct our history does change our perspective, and like or not our judgments. I don't if it is possible to not to, but we need to recognize that we are and allow for that.Jan 9 2013: When doing the right thing would mean not doing a good thing then you should re-evaluate what the right thing is.
When doing good means you cannot do the right thing you should try to change the world.Jan 8 2013: I think it is completely depends on the situation,naturally it's better to do right things,but sometimes something may change our reaction to the specific problem and I think this usually is because of our character that we always consider our benefits.And here we define doing this work is good or better for us,because it's advantages are more.Jan 8 2013: There is this urban legend about David Crockett:
You can read the background of the story in the link, but here is an interesting passage relevant to this discussion: "When the opportunity came to vote on a relief bill for the widow of a naval officer, he offered in his speech to donate one week's salary to her cause, but not to vote public funds for it. The House followed his lead in voting down the appropriation, but not a single other member contributed any of his own money (though they had been ready enough to contribute that of the taxpayers)."Jan 8 2013: You seem to make the same point as Dan Ariely in his talk "Our buggy moral code"
where he points out that our attitude towards cheating changes depending on the amount (e.g. $20 vs $1,000) and also depending on the social group we associate ourselves with (how we perceive the man who dropped the money). He has an example of how attitude towards academic cheating depends on the "color of the T-shirt" of the person who cheats. This may point towards the roots of discrimination by sex, race, religion, ethnicity, or other "appearance" factors.
Something to think about and to watch in ourselves.Jan 7 2013: There are too many factors to consider. The person finding the 20$, the person who lost the 20$ and the beggar.
Like Don Anderson said - we are assuming that the person is evil. He might have that 20$ intended to another NGO or needy person.
Then you have to think about that beggar - did his downfall into poverty lie in his hand or was it out of his hand? Is he going to go buy food or clothes or will he spend it on alcohol or drugs.
Then there is you - what you personally think of the situation. Is the beggar more deserving or is the person who lost it more deserving because it was a result of his work?
Honestly, I can't even tell you what I would do myself. It really depends on so many different things that might be in that situation itself.Jan 7 2013: The answer depends whether the rich man makes more than $400,000 per year or not.
Jan 7 2013: I disagree.
Still his.
I think the amount of money the rich man makes per year shouldn't affect our judgment.
Could be a shaky moral code, especially for this kind of situation.
Jan 7 2013: Re: "Could be a shaky moral code, especially for this kind of situation."
It's not a "moral code" - it's U.S. tax code. What you just said implies that entitlement programs have questionable moral foundation.
Jan 8 2013: Whoa, in that case, with all due respect, I suspect you misunderstood my comment.
What I just said doesn't imply 'that entitlement programs have questionable moral foundation'. You just inferred it anyhow...?
By 'shaky' I mean, in that situation—where the rich man drops his money and we happen to have a chance to make some moral decision—we shouldn't make our moral judgments based on the 'amount' of the money he makes per year. Whether he is just affluent enough to be called 'a rich person' or exceptionally rich like Bill Gates, we have no right to use his money on our own terms.
U.S. Tax code and equality…. Provided that this tax code is applied to every rich person, why should it be the guy who accidentally drops his money on the street? He shouldn't have walked on the street, perhaps. lol Variable situation.
What if there's three of them? But just only one drops his money? Knowing the other two men are not required to donate—so to speak—their money to the beggar, would it sound fair to him?
Again, his dropping the money on that very street in which the beggar is wandering is a coincidence. His being there is a random event.
I suggest we give the money 'back' to the rich man and appeal the government to make rich people pay more taxes (for the poor, and further, for equality of the society). IMHO, entitlement programs don't have questionable moral foundation. The fact that your answer would depend whether the rich man makes more than $400,000 per year or not seems, I quote, 'shaky' on that very street.Jan 8 2013: Hi, Elizabeth. I understand what you say and I agree with you. In my opinion, how we treat people should be based on who we are and not on who these people are. If we believe that taking other people's property is wrong, we shouldn't adjust this rule based on income level, sex, race, or religion.
I don't want to force any agendas, but still, it amazes me how people change perception of, essentially, identical actions depending of the circumstances. Forceful taking property from people is called "robbery" and is a crime UNLESS it is committed by the government. Then it's called "taxes".
We are so used to government entitlement programs that we no longer perceive them as they are: forceful taking money away from one group of people and giving it to another group of people. Does this make us kinder or more empathetic? I don't think so. I think, social programs based on voluntary charity could be far more abundant and have much deeper impact on society than mandatory charity with other people's money. There is no love without a sacrifice.Jan 7 2013: i think it completely depends on the scenario who are in.
As u mentioned the above scenario , I think the right and good thing will be to go and give back the money to the person who owns it and it would be right if you help the beggar by yourself.
Eric Nei
Jan 6 2013: For me, I have to look behind the concept of 'right' and 'good.' Some will say subjective. Some will say objective. For instance, I think it was Garrett Hardin that wrote about Lifeboat Ethics. Earth as a Lifeboat with limited resources. Sure, there is debate about the capacity of the lifeboat, but there is a limited capacity. So, he would suggest we do no favors for the human species by lifting individuals out of the gutter that can not lift themselves out of the gutter. You are disabling the species, from an evolutionary stand point, by helping the weak, lame and those of lower IQ. From a purely biological species stand point, to do so is wrong and bad. On the other hand, what is morality? From one culture to another cultural norms vary, but I believe it was CS Lewis that identified 12 or 13 moral norms that occur in virtually every culture he could examine during his time. Myself, return the $20 to the owner and take the other person out for a meal.
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Jan 7 2013: Mark, I took your advice and read your other posts. From my point of view there is not much worth reading. I guess I would call it convoluted, amorphous, circular, judgementalism that fails to make any cognizant point. Your opinion seems to be that all us other slime life are trapped in our cognitive soup and seem to have joined in corporate back patting for self aggrandizement and emotional massage while getting boiled alive without knowing it as the heat of the soup rises. In the mean time, I can't figure out if you are one of us, or you stand outside of us. Seems like you are a little reluctant to take responsibility for your own views. Much more, "Come on, we are all this way and you all know it." You talk about all of us, then write you are not part of all of us. Do you actually live as you write? I know a gazillion people, give or take a few, that have certainly risen at least a little above how you view humanity.Jan 6 2013: I personally would have gave the money back to the man and then went somewhere to buy the homeless man food. I myself have a hard time separating "right" from "good". I guess what is right or good would change depending on who you are. I also suppose there is a bit of judgement when it comes to what is good.
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David Fuchs
Jan 7 2013: This question is almost the same as the Moral -vs- ethical argument.
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Dan F
Jan 6 2013: What's actually important is that you try to best account for your own actions as to what's right and what's good rather than making superficial judgements about other people as to what you deem to be right or good in their behavior.
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Suppose the bagger as an adult drug addict had kidnapped and raped a young innocent girl and he was never found or convicted. His drug abuse finally caught up with him and no one can stand to be around him. So now he's being a nuisance, or in many cases a serious community problem begging for money. Does he deserve anyones money? No, what he really deserves is to be brought to justice, but that won't likely happen.
The right thing to do in my opinion is follow the golden rule and return the money to the owner. That act will make you a BETTER person. If upon returning the twenty dollar bill to me, you suggested that I SHOULD give it to the bagger, I would like to think I'd have the wits to say, "Okay, but you need to match my gift with your own twenty." Obviously, that wouldn't happen. It's much easier to give away someone else's money than your own.
I do believe in charity. My favorite in assisting people needing help is the Salvation Army. Many unfortunate people deserve and appreciate this kind of personal community service. Sometimes you can volunteer if you are short of funds.
specs 2
Jan 6 2013: Isn't doing the right thing by extension always doing a good thing?
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Doing the right thing implies it is a expected action recognized as being the culturally accepted practice.
Doing a good thing isn't as clear cut.
It usually involves a charitable act but not everybody agrees with all charitable actions. e.g., giving money to a wino.
Doing a good thing can only be determined as good in the mind of the individual doing it.
So what's more important to you? Maintaining culturally accepted practices that we need to support to function as a society or appeasing your own conscience. Tough decision.
At some point in the whole exchange, you made a judgement that the beggar deserved the $20 more than you or the rich guy. Why couldn't you then simply give him what you can afford out of your own pocket.Jan 6 2013: The best thing will be to tell the rich that he has dropped 20 dollars and then request him if it is allright to give it to the beggar. I am sure he will not refuse and then both the results are achieved!
Linda Taylor
Jan 6 2013: Hmm you add an interesting dimension.
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Be right
Be good
Be best
Something to think about.
Linda Taylor
Jan 6 2013: It all depends. We cannot see the end result of our decision. If I give it to the beggar, she might use it for drugs. But maybe she would use it for food and stave off hunger for another few hours. If I give it back to the rich man, he might use it to tip a doorman whose family is struggling. Or he might use it to light a cigar. (Actually I cannot imagine a rich person running around with twenty dollar bills.)
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You cannot know if giving it to either is right nor good. So keep it.
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Jan 6 2013: I found this question on a page about philosophy, and just thought it was interesting. I know what I would do in this situation. I would give the money back to the rich man and then go buy food for the homeless man. I love reading the comments :).Jan 5 2013: Do both. Get change for the $20. Give $10 to the man who dropped the money and $10 to the beggar. After all, the rich man likely has more 20 dollar bills on his person anyway and the beggar would be able to at least afford some food.
James Nash
Jan 5 2013: what you should do is the right thing and give the money back but then do the good thing and give the beggar some of your own moneyJan 5 2013: Well first I believe, one would have to ask one's self, what defines "good" and "right," within the grounds of this situation or otherwise? What end goal or result makes these two choices "good" and "right"? Is it overall happiness or pleasure (which is consequence based), or upholding a social code (which is duty based)?
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Which procedure and definition would you choose?
Jan 5 2013: Good questions Colton....questioning is good:>)
Elizabeth Gu
Jan 6 2013: Again, same as utilitarian versus Kantian as it were. As you said, it depends on me choosing a standard of moral code.
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It seems like we have a right to decide which person to give the money in that moment.
Think about it. If you hadn't noticed him dropping the money, you wouldn't have had a chance to struggle with this moral dilemma in the first place.
The fact that you were the one to make a choice makes you feel like this is up to you.
And considering the situation, it appears reasonable anyhow.
If giving the money to the beggar seems 'good' and 'right' to you, then you should remember that you do it to make you feel good about what you decide to do. Unconsciously, you want to feel satisfaction, rewarding feelings of doing the good thing. Or you might smile on the way home while thinking of the beggar spending that day with warm milk and bread 'thanks to' you.
It's possible that it wasn't right. But it felt right to you.
On the other hand, if giving the money back to the rich person seems right to you, then you should also remember it's not because your choice is primarily the right choice, but you believe it to be. You think you're being consistent with your moral code. It may not bring you some fulfilling feelings of helping others, but you would still have some kind of achievement that you do the right thing no matter what.
There may be various reasons why you're struggling with that money on the road.
But you yourself are also part of variable factors at that moment—what if you weren't there? What if someone else took it before you even reached your hand the money? etc.
You don't get to judge what's right, but you get to think.
By including the beggar in the situation, you complicate the situation.
Personal choice becomes the big moral decision of the humanity.
And whatever we decide, in either way, we think there was no alternative. We think we did what's for the best. "I could have taken the money." You whisper.
b. nicholas
Jan 5 2013: I suggest to give the money back to the rich guy and encourage the beggar to identify his work skills to be utilized daily. This allows the beggar personal status to change greatly......................
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Doing Right and Doing Good is a matter of personal opinion................money and proverty has various values to many people..........................Jan 5 2013: My Prefernce is To do right as if we do right good will automatically happen, In this story probabilty can be
- The man after receiving his $ might give to begger (Good Happens)
- You did your duty of giving the $ to man it belonged to ( You feel good your did right)
- The first episode itself is man dropped 20$ bill and not the hungery beggar ( Logically he should get his $)
Sometimes because of doing good we forget the importance of RIGHT leads to unhappiness