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It's nothing fancy, but it's thoughtful and informative. And if you want to better understand Madison, Indiana, you ought to plan for a couple of hours here. The experience includes two buildings, actually -- an old train depot where the romance of rail travel still hangs in the air, and the Heritage Center, which is filled with placards, old photos, artifacts and re-created homes and businesses from Madison's past.The vignettes tell the story of an Ohio River town that boomed thanks to its geography and hardworking founders. A pioneer home shows humble furnishings; a Victorian parlor shows clothing, furniture, art and artifacts owned by people who lived in Madison at that time; a Civil War exhibit explores a raid that took place in Jefferson County. In the old depot, visitors see how the agent's office was outfitted in 1903 and learn about what railroad traffic meant to this area at this time (and what happened when service stopped in 1931). Wrap up your visit by walking through the old red caboose on the property to get a feel for how railroad workers lived on-board during that era. Admission charged.


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Steelers' center Maurkice Pouncey and long snapper Greg Warren were named to the USA Football All-Fundamentals Team. The team honors 26 NFL players, 11 each on offense and defense and four on special teams, who exhibit the fundamentals and techniques of football that provide proper examples for youth football players.
Pouncey, who was just voted to his third Pro Bowl, has continued to grow in all areas since his rookie season, something that hasn't gone unnoticed.
"He's a football player," said offensive coordinator Todd Haley. "I mean that in a way – when he came out of college, if you just relied on his timing, speed and his combine numbers, he'd be just another guy. But when the pads are on, he's special. His football playing ability at his position doesn't add up to the measurables, so to speak. It comes down to, when you are evaluating these guys, they better be good football players. He is just that. I didn't know that about him. That's even more impressive.
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Warren, in his eighth season out of North Carolina, has been a stabilizing force on the Steelers' special teams unit, working with several different place kickers and punters during his time with the Steelers.
Pouncey and Warren will receive a $1,500 grant from USA Football to donate to the youth or high school program of their choice.
The two are also eligible to win the All-Fundamentals Team Captain award, which will be determined by a fan vote. Fans can vote for one captain on offense, defense and special teams and each of the three winners will receive a $3,000 equipment grant for them to donate. Fans can vote now through Jan. 21 at www.facebook.com/usafootball.
Tight end Heath Miller, safety Troy Polamalu and linebacker LaMarr Woodley have all been named to the All-Fundamentals team over the last three years.
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how has a belief in an afterlife affected the quality of life on earth?
I see this as multi-faceted. Starting with those who believe;
A-1: Some believe that life hereafter is dependent on how well they have upheld the golden rule.
A-2: Some believe that life hereafter is only determined by adherence to religious ritual and doctrine.
A-3: Some believe that they have a duty to uphold God's law and to defend it with whatever it takes in order to get God's approval.
Now to those who don't believe;
B-1: If this is all you have to give, give it all you have to offer.
B-2: He who dies with the most toys wins. The losers are just a bunch of stupid people anyway.
B-3: If life doesn't go on, why should I live in poverty while others live like kings? Let's take the world by force; Might makes right.
We all know what category Richard Dawkins is in; B-1. He sees religious people as not caring about this life because religion steers them in that direction. He abhors those who would kill in the name of God, and I don't blame him. People in this category see religion as a threat to the preservation of this planet.
What category are drug cartels and human traffickers in? They don't kill you quickly, they suck the life out of you over time. Is A-3 any better or worse than B-3? there are many who choose not to do evil because they believe in divine retribution. Would taking away that belief make them better or worse?
I don't see this question as black and white. I would like to see A-1 and B-1 come together and work to eliminate all the others. Can we do that, and what would it take?
I am open to anyone else's thoughts on the subject.
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I have found in the comments that it can go both ways. Many feel that a belief in an afterlife has caused many to have a contempt for this life. Some feel that they are connected to something greater, but don't see it as God. Some have left the church they were in for something that has more meaning in the present life.
What a person believes is largely dictated by what they were taught unless they choose to seek for themselves. I believe that religion was originally meant as a guide for seeking, but has been monopolized by institutions to promote their beliefs. Many others feel the same way, but differ in how they chose to seek.
Today, science has taken the lead in many person's tools to understand the world. Some have gone beyond their faith but still use the tools of science to augment how they see the world. For them it is not one-sided, but a compromise between the two, gleaning from each other to expose the truth wherever it may exist.
Adriaan presents links on Swedenborg. It offers teachings by one who has lived a spiritual life.
The negatives to the debate are concerning those who would do terrible things to please God because that is what they have been taught. They see an afterlife as a way out of a wicked world. Churches use fear, punishment, and reward to promote a moral code and lock their parishioners into a belief system that is unswerving.
The positives are concerning a connectedness to a greater whole. Some find solace in believing in an afterlife in a world that has left them with little to hope for in their present life.
I see an afterlife as an extension of our present life. Should we return here, why not leave the planet better off. If science can tell us how to do that, then so be it. Should we go somewhere else, why would God choose someone who couldn't take care of the world they were entrusted with? Should we go nowhere, why not learn all we can about the world we live in?
Find the truth however you can, and share it.
Mar 28 2012: To know you live, being in an everlasting now, a moment that changes in the way we see it as we are changed by it because of what we see, gives a different outlook on life and your place in it than you propose.
Know yourself to know everything.
Individuals die, consciousness doesn't.
It just subtract from one point of focus to be attracted to another point, to experience life from an ever different perspective. (What you do to anything living you've done to yourself.)
A: To believe on authority makes one blind.
B: To believe on one's own accord makes one free to explore.
C: You have left out.
Mar 28 2012: Frans,
Sometimes I forget that when we stop seeing ourselves as just a body, we become immortal. Life is a river, and we just make stops along the way. Thanks for the reminder.
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Mar 29 2012: That's what I am searching for !
Contraria non contradictoria sed complementa sunt ( Opposites are not contradictory but complementary )
"Science VS God, Logic VS Intuition" attitude implies that we are not yet ready to reconcile the opposites. They came from one point of singularity and I don't see the reason why they shouldn't lead to one Truth.
Bridget, thanks for all your posts here and suggested links, a lot to ponder !
Thank you !
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Mar 30 2012: Hi, Andriaan !
The list of additions could be quite long... very long! :) 'Opposetes' is the nature of duality, it's how our mind works, it's how we perceive the world through mind. Creation is separation, God separated the Light from Darkness. Waters from Land...and so it all begins... So, your addition is accepted :)
I've read somewhere that the Hebrew word for 'rib' has another meaning and can be translated into English as 'side', so Eve is a side, another equal half of Adam and only together they create the whole. It's true on physical and conscious level (go through Bridget's comments, Adam and Eve are the state of human consciousness ) Maybe if the translator had chosen the word 'side', there would have been no feminist's movement : ) and through millenniums we'd have better understanding of the complementarity of 'Male VS Female' pattern .Mar 30 2012: Hi Natasha,
are you asserting that there no conflict between Science and God or that there shouldn't be a conflict because they both lead to the same truth?
If it is the former I would have to disagree and states that Religious claims and claims about God are by their very nature anti-scientific and goes against just about everything that Science would assert.
while I agree that something like logic and intuition should not be conflicted (after all I think reason is at its core intuitive) I do not think this can be the case for Science and Religion (as it is practiced around the world) but nonetheless I think many of our opposites can be reconciled (with the exception that I have just mentioned)
Mar 30 2012: Wait a minute !
What exactly are we talking about 'Science VS God ' or 'Science VS Religion ' ? I would suggest to discriminate between those two.I don't have name for God and don't practice any main stream religion, for me God is the Whole.
What we could observe through mind is helplessly limited and sometimes irrelevant because of limitation. Our mind inhabits 25 % of spacetime ( 75% marked as Dark matter/energy ) So logic/reasoning (the very tool mind operates with ) is not the only way we know the world and not necessarily the best. But we have access to the Whole through intuition. For me 'Science VS God' and ' Logic VS Intuition' is the same coupling in disguise. Almost all the great advances in science have come about not from logic or reason but from ' Eurica' moments- flashes of insight. What is insight ? It's a moment of creative inspiration that fires science, music, literature or art. It's God! It's non-algorithmic depth of knowing. Actually, in order to grow to evolve we need both logic and intuition , science and God in equal measure. The problem is, as I see it, we invested too much into science/logic and forgot about the intuition/God.
Why do you think we are talking so much about God ? We are trying to catch-up :)Mar 30 2012: Hi Natasha,
Now as much as you may want it to be, God and Religion are not mutually exclusive. In the modern world and through out human history religion is a path to God for many people. This may not be the case for you personally (or many adherents of the contemplative traditions) and I applaud you for that but why not just use the term the Whole as opposed to God because God is a term that is really misleading but to state that their is no conflict between God and Science and Science and Religion I think is untrue and this is the question that I was asking.
You are right that logic/reason are not the only way to understand the world (or universe) and I have actually never stated that they were. I have on several occasions stated that I am all for the validity of intuitive and spiritual experiences. I do think logic/reason are the best way of understanding the world but when it comes to transcendence and understanding ourselves it is obviously not a good tool.
There are many things that I do not disagree with you with. I like your notion of God being intuition. I agree that insight may have perhaps led to the great scientific discoveries (as with the case of Newton sitting in contemplation).
Your second to last sentence is the one that irks me:
This is a common misconception about Science. Many people tend to think that Science has taken the flavor out of life. Has made us lose our creativity. Has made us lose our touch with our intuitions and this is not true. No scientist is not trying to take these things away. All science wants to do is dig beneath the surface and understand the causes of things.
understanding the molecular constituents of ice cream does not take away from the sensation and experience of ice cream being delicious. I think you also have to realize what happens if we allow intuition to take over completely. What is needed is a balance of the two as opposed to either/or but I do not get the sense that you'd be opposed to that.
Mar 30 2012: Hi Orlando !
Thanks for the response !
God is not a term but a Symbol, it doesn't imply, that God is not real and there is a huge difference. In order to communicate my idea I'd better use the old age, heavily loaded Symbol, than to invent my own 'term' for God.
It's true, God and Religion are not mutually exclusive. But to get to the common ground let's ( again!) discriminate between Religion, as a teaching based on a sacred doctrine and Religion as an institution. I don't want to go further into the discussion about the latter , religious people are very sensitive to these matters and I don't want to hurt anyone, and truly respect their choice.
Sacred Doctrine is a terra incognita for me, it's quite recent, but I've got some "aha" moments . It's so deep... it's even deeper ! It has nothing to do with brainwashing, there is nothing supernatural there.God is perfectly natural. But to take this as an explanation is to trivialise the meaning of what I am trying to explain.:)
And about 'common misconception about Science' . I am not among those people, who 'think that Science has taken the flavor out of life' , not science but the attitude it's generated, unwillingly. It's a long talk, but the attitude that 'we are two with nature' proved to be very harmful. And I believe that science restores the feeling of sacred and is bringing it back to life right now. Because of its own insights that are enriching and extending those of the sacred traditions.This process tends to reach its apogee in modern physics. A lot is yet to come.Mar 30 2012: HI Natasha,
Once again I find myself in agreement with you and I like you analysis of your points. I just wanted to make sure I understood what you were driving at and thanks for all your clarifications being that its hard to be precise on your points over the internet.
So, in the context you are speaking in, for you its all about the experience and you believe that God, being the whole can be experienced? If that's the case then I accept that position being that I seek the same thing but instead I'm not looking for God but a higher level if awareness that would leave me speechless.
Mar 31 2012: Hi, Orlando !
" The sea refuses no river."
To become aware of your Spirit or God, or whatever you want to call it, IS Enlightenment/ Awareness/ Christ consciousness.
We are trying to get to 'know thyself 'and talkig, while we are not speechless yet, and clearly don't know yet. He who knows does not speak, he who speaks does not know :)Apr 1 2012: Hi Natasha,
I'm responding to your comment about wars being about fear...
I agree with you completely but if I may state, to have fear entails a belief in something but your correct though that I'm sure its about the ego. I'm assuming this is the case being that most wars in human history has been caused by greedy, sick and self-centered menApr 10 2012: P.S. Just re-reading the end of your original question, and there's one small thing I find a little concerning. You say you would like to see two of the six beliefs "come together and work to eliminate all the others." There's something about the word 'eliminate' that bugs me. How would we 'eliminate' the beliefs in question? By eliminating the people who have them? There's been ample evidence through the centuries of the horrors that that can cause.
As I said before, I think that battles between beliefs lead to trouble, even if it's the battle between the belief that belief in an afterlife improves life on earth, and the belief that it doesn't.
One of my former yoga teachers said once that the rate of change in human society is like the rate of erosion of a cube of stone, a mile per side, being flown over by a dove holding a silk scarf that drags on the top of the stone as the dove flies back and forth, back and forth.
I don't think there's a way to make a better world by forcing any change on anyone. But perhaps there's a way to do it, slowly and lovingly, with acts of kindness, generosity, respect, and consideration towards our fellow human beings, each day, as best we can.Apr 10 2012: Thank you for your thoughts, Roy and everyone else.
I wanted to re-frame things a little bit, because of the way my mind makes sense of it.
In the book Native Science, Gregory Cajete talks about the distinction between actual lived experience, and the ideas / beliefs that we make up about it.
I sense that the discomfort you have, Roy, is the observed fact that someone can have very 'pure' or 'noble' ideas, but then behave in a monstrous way. There's plenty of genocidal and murderous examples of this in the name of religion and economics even up to the present day, aren't there?
What is the afterlife? What if it is, at minimum, the 'after life'? What I mean is, what if our 'after life' is the sum total of what we leave behind on this earth through our actions? If I have worked for a company or organization that has created and spread death and misery no matter what my beliefs, then after I am gone I have left a certain legacy, have I not? But if I have behaved ethically towards my fellow human beings and the ecology, if I leave behind some life, some beauty, something of value, isn't my 'after life' different?
I get a lot of peace from indigenous perspectives. One traditional understanding is that the idea that you and I (or anyone) should argue about different beliefs in God / Creator is absurd. I connect in my way and you in yours, and that's that.
In one meeting between missionaries and Natives in North America, the former shared the story of Christianity and Jesus and asked if the Natives would convert. They deliberated, and said "No, thank you. But we will watch your people over the next years, and see how they behave under the influence of your teachings. If they behave well, we will all convert. But if they behave poorly, none of us will convert, because then it will be clear that your teachings are of no value."
Religion in itself or any specific belief in the afterlife matters less than what we do with it, and how it affects our actions.
Richard Gono
Apr 2 2012: You were asking how a belief in an afterlife can affect the life on earth. I think it is the type of afterlife you believe in that is important. If you believe that life is just a test for you (only for you) or if you believe that there is no afterlife and everything that happens after your death is not important, then you basicaly dont care about what happens with this planet, with humanity after you die. I think if people started to care about the world they leave behind, not just their lives or their afterlives, if they would be a bit more humble, if they tried to realize that they are just a tiny little individuals, realize that what realy matters is the longterm wellbeing of humans in this universe, then the quality of life could improve.
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Apr 2 2012: I am finding this to be true. there are those who do despicable things because they have been taught that God will punish them if they don't do as he says, and their leaders claim to be the voice of God. So their leaders march them off to war to defend the faith.
There are those who believe that this life doesn't matter and its only a test, so they do all the things that the church teaches without regard to what they should be doing to improve life now. Jesus said "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven" which says to me that we need to be making heaven on earth.
There are those who believe that life doesn't go on and it's finders keepers losers weepers, so they exploit the planet and everybody they can to benefit themselves.
I don't like any of the above options.
Apr 3 2012: I think it was Voltaire who said if God didn't exist, man would have to invent him.
Apr 3 2012: Voltaire also said:
"The universe confounds me! I cannot imagine that such a 'clock' can exist without there being a Clockmaker."—VoltaireApr 3 2012: Roy, you state you don't like any of the options......what other options are there?
Apr 3 2012: Mary,
I was referring to the options I cited in my comment.
The other options are
1. believe in an afterlife and make God proud of what we have achieved in his name, being true to Jesus' teaching on love and forgiveness and not judging others. (This is what I believe).
2. Don't believe in an afterlife, but leave the planet better off than how we found it, learning all that we can while being fair to all and not just to ourselves.
I don't like Holy wars, and I don't like exploiting the planet while letting future generations to fend for themselves. If we are going to gain God's favor, then I think God would want us to take care of the kingdom that we have been entrusted to, and that includes "We are our brother's keeper".Apr 4 2012: I have always taken God's kingdom to be a government. A heavenly government. The king of this kingdom being Jesus. And asking for the kingdom to come would imply waiting for the time that earth would be ruled directly by God through the kingdom....
You think the kingdom is our earthly home right now, and that we as imperfect humans can make the earth a better place and solve all the problems ourselves Roy?
This is very very interesting........how do you think it will be accomplished without a government to rule the people?
Apr 4 2012: Jesus said that God is God of the living and not of the dead. Jesus also said the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force. He was describing the world he was living in. Jesus also said he would go to the father and send back the Holy Spirit who will teach you all things. Those who have felt the indwelling of the Holy Spirit understand what he was trying to say. Jeremiah said that God would write his law in our heart (Jeremiah 31:33). This is the kingdom that God wanted with Israel before they demanded a king in Samuel 8:1-18. So all that has come to pass are the warnings of God become manifest that we would know what turning from God does to us. And now we are seeing a time when people are turning their hearts back to God. God must dwell within as Jesus said "behold the Kingdom of God is within you". This doesn't necessarily mean that there won't be a governing body, but that we need to know God from within to know what God would require of us.Apr 5 2012: The clergy commonly teach this idea of the kingdom of God being inside us. The Catholic Encyclopedia asserts: "The kingdom of God means . . . the ruling of God in our hearts."
Some think that Jesus himself first promoted the idea that God's Kingdom lies within the hearts of humans. Jesus did say: "Look! The kingdom of God is in your midst." (Luke 17:21) Some translations here say: "The kingdom of God is within you" or even "inside you."
Do you think those are accurate renderings of Jesus' expression?
Did he really mean that God's Kingdom is found in human hearts?
Roy, you first have to consider what the human heart is. When referred to in the Bible, the figurative heart means the inner person, the source of a person's thoughts, attitudes, and feelings.
The idea that something as sublime as the Kingdom of God resides within the human heart—in the way it changes and ennobles people, for example—may sound appealing, but does it stand to reason?
The Bible tells us: "The heart is more treacherous than anything else and is desperate." (Jeremiah 17:9)
Jesus himself said: "From inside, out of the heart of men, injurious reasonings issue forth: fornications, thieveries, murders, adulteries, covetings, acts of wickedness." (Mark 7:20-22)
Consider this: Cannot much of the misery that we see in the world today be traced back to the sinful hearts of humans? So how could God's perfect Kingdom come from such a source? Really, the human heart could no more produce God's Kingdom than a thistle could produce figs.—Matthew 7:16.
Also, consider the audience Jesus was addressing when he spoke the words found at Luke 17:21. Verse 20 says: "On being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them." The Pharisees were Jesus' enemies. Jesus stated that those hypocrites were not going to enter God's Kingdom. (Matthew 23:13)
Apr 5 2012: Mary,
The only truth is inside any being. We can call it the heart and it connects all being.
If you've found that heart you may trust it and live without fear. If you are disconnected then fear will rule by what is said to be, "wickedness" which is the shortest way to recover that lost love.
Scriptures can teach as much as they can confuse someone. You don't need them.Apr 5 2012: Now if the Pharisees were not to enter God's Kingdom, could the Kingdom be in their hearts? Impossible! What, then, did Jesus mean?
In rendering these words of Jesus, a number of careful Bible translations say that the Kingdom is "among you" or "in the midst of you."
How was God's Kingdom among those people at that time, including the Pharisees?
Well, Jesus was the one whom Jehovah God appointed to be the King of the Kingdom.
As the King-Designate, Jesus was right in the midst of those people. He taught about the Kingdom of God and even performed miracles, giving them a preview of what that Kingdom would accomplish.
In a very real sense, then, the Kingdom was in their midst.
I personally am of the opinion that there is no Scriptural support for the notion that the Kingdom of God is in the hearts of humans. Rather, it is an actual government, one that will effect dramatic changes on the earth, just as the prophets foretold.—Isaiah 9:6, 7; Daniel 2:44.
What do you think of this? I'm open to your thoughts.
Roy Bourque
Apr 5 2012: Mary,
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You are describing the carnal nature as opposed to the spiritual nature. Christ is the seventh energy chakra of Eastern philosophy. It represents a spiritual ascension once we learn to control our carnal nature. This is what being born again means. Have you not read that the disciples were able to do the very miracles that Jesus performed?
I Corinthians 3:16, 17; Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
The need to become spiritual is all through the new testament. Paul says to the disciples at Ephesus; Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost (Acts 19:1-6).
The carnal nature cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven. Only the spiritual nature can. How could Jesus have chosen disciples among the children of men and empower them to do the things that he did if we are not capable of it ourselves? But people resist the Holy Spirit because of peer pressure and the cares of the world. Only those who open their hearts up to God will be able to receive him. So yes, the heart of men is evil, but we are capable of overcoming that evil through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.Apr 5 2012: Franz, Adriaan, Roy.
Thank you for your varied thoughts on my reply to Roy.
What can I say.....I can go eenie, meenie, mienee, mo........
OR, I can continue to have faith in God's inspired word, and await the unfolding of his purpose for the Earth and mankind.
Certainly the first century christians spent themselves preaching the good news of God's kingdom. Many lost their lives because of it.
Today it is no different. Many christians worldwide continue to be persecuted for bearing witness to God's name and preaching the good news of the kingdom. Want to read about it?
Yes Franz, we can be happy and live a fulfilled life, without scripture. I know I don't need scripture, I have lived such a lifestyle before. I have since then, chosen to live my life in harmony with scripture. I am part of a worldwide brotherhood that attempts to do what Jesus said would be done in the last days of this system....."preach the good news of God's kingdom to all the inhabited earth, as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come"........sometimes, like I have said before on TED, my words do not come out like I want them to. You cannot hear my voice, see my facial expressions, etc.....but I make an effort.
The results are not what matter though, it is the fact that I have given this witness to those that took the time to read my posts.
I shall wait and see......like the rest of you, what the future brings.....maybe all of us are right?.........in the meantime, I know, that all of you are sincere in your words. Your genuineness is very important. Do not think that I do not appreciate your words. I truly do.
I kindly thank you for the effort it took to write your responses Adriaan and Roy.
Adriaan, I continue to read the links you have given me. Thank you.
Roy, I just don't know what to make of your belief system. Is there a website I can visit?
Thanks again. Be Well.
Apr 5 2012: Mary,
we are all working out our own salvation, some are further along the path than others. Aside from my own spiritual awareness, I know that I am far from knowing the whole truth. There may be a great epiphany that will take the world by surprise uniting all Christians in what many churches teach as a second coming of Christ. I believe that is what you are eluding to, that the second coming of Christ hasn't come for the world at large.
I am a non-denominational Christian in that I believe in what Jesus taught, but have found few Christian churches that could expound on what the spirit of God has already revealed to Me. Many teach doctrine that I would personally disagree with. Presently, I attend the Calvary Chapel because they teach the history of the bible, which gives insight into why it was written the way it was. I find this to be most helpful in my present understanding.
I wrote a book about what I believe called "The Merging of Two Worlds". It contains many of my personal experiences as well as research material to verify what the spirit of God has shown me. It is outlined in my website www.scienceandreligionconverging.com. The National (or great) cycle of the Mayan calendar and the Judeo-Christian tradition have much in common. The stages of the National cycle and the development of the Judeo-Christian tradition fit together like a glove. I believe and hope that the final second coming is just around the corner.Apr 5 2012: I don't know Roy
The Prime intellect operates on his own time though i would like to think the seals have been broken they might not be.By trying to merge the two worlds would you might be hastening the move to a one world church?Babylon?
I use to believe in an afterlife but i always thought "Then what's the point of all of this existence" I would like to think god isn't subject to our organic tendency to make mistakes and then change his plans for us, then that would make him fallible.
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Mar 30 2012: I thought the bible was to be understood on a spiritual level. The social sciences are too deep for me.
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Apr 1 2012: Again, you are stating a belief that you really, really want to be right. Perhaps, in your mind, mind is interchangeable with 'breath,soul and/or spirit. However, that is not true for me. Put another way, what is the nature of the word?Mar 28 2012: Absolutely it has but it depends on the religion your talking about and the context that your placing it.
A belief in the after-life can appease our existential anxieties and bring great solace
or at the same time it explains why a someone could go into a crowed of people, blow them up, blow themselves up and consider it a great thing to do because they'll be rewarded
but what disturbs me the most is not this: What disturbs me is that it tells one to take the value off this life and not consider it important,. this is disturbing because the only life we are certain about is this life.
I fail to see how anyone can talk about an after-life when we know nothing about it...we do not know what it looks like, who's there or even how to get there....
its really disturbing.
Mar 28 2012: Orlando,
You make a lot of valid points. I believe in an afterlife, and it has not in any way detracted from my value of this life. I don't dwell on the afterlife unless I am thinking about doing something wrong, then it makes me think twice about whether or not I want to do this. I've since gone beyond that point, but I feel it has made me a better person.
There are many religious beliefs that contribute to religious carnage. Most of it is based on lies. If people knew the truth, things would be different. I feel that that is the path we need to be on. Find the truth and a lot of terrible things would stop being terrible. We are moving in that direction, and I believe that we will continue to do so.
It's human nature to question the unknown. I don't find it disturbing at all. I just don't think that we should dwell on it or make it the reason we do things. Jesus said that God is God of the living and not of the dead. He said many things that pertained to the present. But if his death was in vain, then so is everyone else's. I see too much to not let that bother me.
Mar 29 2012: Hi Roy,
I think there are thing a couple of things that we need to dwell on:
We'll if your concern about an afterlife has made you a better person, then I am in no way shape or form going to or will attempt to take that away from you. There are people who are willing to kill themselves for a belief in an afterlife so its nice to hear that not only do you not seem to be judgmental towards those who do not find value in the after-life but you use it for good as well.
Now you mentioned that if people knew the truth, then they would not spread lies about their religion.. This is what bugs me about your post because you give off the impression that you know the truth but the truth of the matter is, no one knows the truth about an afterlife. The honest response to this is "I do not know what happens after death"....in this regard its all a matter of faith.
I do not think anyone has the key to how to get to the afterlife but I do believe that an belief in the afterlife has made this life, for many people, something of non-value because they are worried about being well situated some other place that they have no idea of.
Your right, its human nature to be inquisitive of the unknown. I can admit that but I do not think its human nature to be certain about things that we are not certain about.
Mar 29 2012: Orlando,
I guess I was not specific in what I was trying to convey. If people knew the truth about their religion, they would know that hell as it is taught today is not the truth. They would know that violating a commandment written in stone (thou shalt not kill) to promote what they believe, is selling their soul to the devil. And if there is an afterlife, that God could not reward someone for doing such a thing. They would know that heaven begins here and that we must be about our father's business (thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven).
I believe in an afterlife, only because I have had experiences that tell me that we are more than just a body. I know that I have no knowledge what that means beyond belief. But I also believe that God will reward those by how they have added benefit to "his" creation. I use the word "his" out of context because I know that many people regard God as a male deity. I don't believe that God is a person, I believe that God is the life force of the cosmos.Mar 28 2012: You are right, this is a multi-faceted question:
I did not see a category that I fit in.
My afterlife is not what I care about as a Christian.
My main concern as a Christian, is to make God's heart rejoice so that he can make a reply to his enemy.
Afterall, this is what the scriptures are all about.....does God have the right to rule mankind. Then, what side are you on?
What is at stake is God's sovereignty, his right to rule humankind. As our Creator, he has a right to set principles in place for our well-being. He teaches us to benefit ourselves.
So with this in mind, our life, as Christians, is to live in such a way to bring honor and glory to our Creator. If there is life afterwards, well then we will discover it after death.
But while we are living, we can do much good if we focus on the here and now. Each act of godly devotion will help us put an additional brick in our house of integrity.........LOVE is the motivation. Love of God and humans. Therefore we will never do anything that can bring harm to another.
This is my truth, and the truth by which people of my faith live. We are in the category C-1
Religion is a snare and a racket.......they have done much harm, and continue to blind millions as well as distance truth seekers from drawing close to God. Many kind hearted and sincere atheist are seekers of truth, who can blame them for rejecting religion? I certainly don't.
Mar 28 2012: I realize that the categories are limited. What you describe seems to be a blend between A-1 and B-1. Do you not strive to be the best that you can be? And do you not live by the golden rule? Not because of what you believe will be your fate in an afterlife, but because it is the right thing to do? I agree, whatever happens beyond this life isn't what really matters. But for many people, its the only hope they have. Life is cruel when you are at the bottom of the totem pole, and everyone above you is stepping on you to keep you there.
What would your advice be to CEO's who take jobs oversees where they can pay slave wages. And all the while they live lavish lives, the people who helped them make their fortune have to live on porridge and hotdogs because that is all they can afford?
I knew a person who was invited to a fundamental Christian church. The family that invited him felt joy in this church. Their friend was like you and not at all amused. They asked him why he wasn't happy. He said why should he be? They said because you're going to heaven. He said according to my bible, I don't get to make that decision. All their faces dropped and they looked at the minister who had no answer. Consequently that family fell apart, they got a divorce and lived unhappily ever after.
Again, I say it's not black and white. I wrote a book that highlights much of what you have said. It also traces many beliefs back to their roots so people can make an informed decision. Integrate the truth into religion rather than pull the rug out from under them is the way I see it should be.
Mar 28 2012: Roy, you are an observer of humankind. Your insight is very impressive. I have great respect for your many thoughts.
Yes I strive to be the best I can be, but because I am trying to bring honor to my Creator. I try not to do it for my own personal reason. I think Jesus himself said it best when he told his disciples that they were "good for nothing" they did what they were supposed to do.
Once you realize that life, at the present moment, is not about us, it is about God and how he has been lied about for thousands of years, then you are able to live with the right focus. As a student of the Bible I understand the related issues of Jehovah's sovereignty and human integrity.
I have no advice to CEO's.....how can I control others.
And on what basis did the man who visited the church state that he didn't get to make the decision of whether or not he got saved? Could you expound please.
Thank you Roy.
Mar 28 2012: Mary, good answers. Once we give our lives to Jesus, Jesus does his magic in transforming us. We become more like him because we see the virtue that we cannot see in ourselves. He shows us the wonders of the creator and we cannot look away. We want to know more.
There are many lies about God. The bible tells us how destructive lies can be, and that the truth can set you free. We must all be diligent, even in a church.
The man who visited the church was raised a Catholic. That should tell you something. In his eyes, we don't tell God how to run his kingdom, he tells us. He saw this group as a bunch of wishy-washy Christians and he voiced his opinion without considering the harm he may be causing. My point in the story is that we have to think about what we say to others about their faith. If you don't agree with how they are living their faith, try putting yourself in their shoes. Maybe that's the best they can do for the time being.Mar 29 2012: Ok, maybe I'm in over my head, but can't make the connection between Catholisism and what the man said....I was never a Catholic, sorry.
I picture this guy judging others as wishy washy, and see the family as people in a church with no faith, just credulity.
So you are telling me that this one man went in there and destroyed a family's beliefs....and now he's sorry for what he did because he didn't put himself in their shoes??
The only time I have seen faith of any kind destroyed, it was destroyed due to the exposing of truth.
I do agree that tact is needed when speaking to others. It is important to ask questions to get to why the person believes what they believe.
This is how I feel, I try to give a witness of my faith. However, I am no judge of humans. Only God knows our hearts. He is the statute giver, and he is the judge.
Now, having said that, what I put faith in is what I consider to be truth for me today, because if I didn't consider it truth, I would not defend it, or speak of it with conviction.
I respect people who stand up for what they believe....it is a wonderful human quality....and I applaud it.
I guess that is why I enjoy TED conversations, I get to see how others feel, and it helps me understand others. I think that is the greatest benefit to this site.
We "communicate", even though we are living in a world where communication is getting harder and harder each day.
Feel free to let me know if I did not make sense with something I wrote...I have had a long tedious day....and my brain is a little tired...
Mar 29 2012: Mary, the Catholic's teach salvation through works much like the pharisees did. You have to do all the things that the church teaches in order to go to heaven. The so-called wishy-washy church was held in a hall. They sang songs and praised God and taught salvation by accepting Jesus in your heart. This man felt he was in romper room and had to voice his opinion. The people believed in Jesus, but that wasn't enough according to the man. He's not sorry, because he doesn't even know what he did. I was saying that we need to put ourselves in other people's shoes before we make opinions about them.
The reason their faith was destroyed is that the minister wasn't knowledgeable enough to defend the faith. The family respected the man because he was intelligent, so they lost faith in their minister because he didn't know how to respond. Had the man not been there, they would have grown in their faith with time. But like Jesus said, the seed had no root, so it withered.
Mar 29 2012: Roy, what a wonderful story to illustrate the fallacy of Christendom's churches.
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On the one hand, the Catholics, with traditions of men....just like the Pharisees. Jesus aptly warned those religious leaders: "You make the word invalid because of your traditions".
Works do not get you into heaven.....Salvation is not a checklist of things to do and bam you're saved. That is probably why scripture uses the term "undeserved kindness" after emnisty was established between humans and the Creator and God arranged for a reconciliation with him through the ransom sacrifice. Our worship of God should be motivated by pure love. And the faith we place in the ransom, should move us to be loving towards all. I did not realize Catholics were indoctrinated in such a way.....thanks for explaining.
Now, on the other hand....born again christians: once saved, always saved. Well, here we have the other end of the spectrum, don't you think? I know many individuals who are born-again christians. Many are sincere, but like you mention, they lack knowledge to be able to defend their new found faith. I think that is why I appreciate texts such as John 17:3 which states "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ"....and of course the many texts by Paul to meditate on and study God's word. Christians are a work in progress, but before baptism, one must truly know what one is getting oneself into. A study of the Bible is important prior to taking that serious step. We need our power of reason and not just emotions, otherwise, the house is built on sand. The kingdom message will not take root.
Wonderful story, many lessons to glean from it.
Roy, let me ask you this. What are your views about the celebration of Easter done the way it is done today? I have spoken to Hindu individuals who are perplexed at how christendom celebrates this most solemn of occasions. Any thoughts?
Mar 29 2012: Mary,
You have aptly put both sides of the spectrum. Paul spoke of babes in Christ who have not yet taken of the meat, which means you have to grow in Christ, not just accept it for face value. I know many Christians who can't get out of their own way and are content to hope for a better time when all is said and done. Those are the ones that the atheist sees as offering no benefit to taking care of problems that exist now. It reminds me of Jesus' parable of the talents; to one was given five, to another two, to a third, one. The one with five gained another five, the one with two gained another two, the one with one buried it and returned it to the master. The master cast that servant into outer darkness as unprofitable (Matthew 25:14-30).
People put faith in the way of the cross for the same reason that we put dead men's (fallen soldiers) names on stones and plant them in the town greens. It's a reminder of the sacrifice that was made to set men free. The church doesn't want us to lose sight of what Jesus did to atone for our sins. For some, that is the only way the message doesn't fade.
C Sarrin
Mar 29 2012: bunnies and eggs and parades have nothing to do with the real memorial of the death of Christ. Another reason to question religion's many traditions which brings reproach on god's name. tsk tsk tskMar 30 2012: Mary, I may not have answered your question in my last post as you meant it to be. As far as bunnies and easter eggs (if that's what you meant), these are part of pagan fertility rituals that predated the death and resurrection of Jesus in the gospels.
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I can only guess, but the church may have kept them in order to try to win over the pagans, or they may have kept them to provide children with a less alarming view of Easter than the way of the cross, which might have been a little too much for children to deal with. Or it might have been both. Maybe someone else knows the reason.Mar 30 2012: Roy, you said:
"People put faith in the way of the cross for the same reason that we put dead men's (fallen soldiers) names on stones and plant them in the town greens. It's a reminder of the sacrifice that was made to set men free. The church doesn't want us to lose sight of what Jesus did to atone for our sins. For some, that is the only way the message doesn't fade"
I agree, Jesus' sacrifice should never be forgotten. He himself gave a command to continue doing this in remembrance of him. Christians should remember his death.
My question to you is HOW Easter is celebrated.
Why isn't it done the way Jesus himself instructed?
I mean, the scriptures even give us the exact date of his death.
Most people ignore this one fact.
Jesus died on the date in the Jewish calendar "Nisan 14".....this year it corresponds to April 5th.
It falls on a different Roman date each year. Nevertheless, churches always have him dying on a Friday and resurrecting on a Sunday.
Scriptures do not give us a date for his birth...and yet the churches assigned December 25...
When the scriptures do provide a date, the churches ignore it and do not follow the instructions of our Lord. When the scriptures do not provide a date, they assign one.
I have always been perplexed by this act.
Mar 30 2012: Much of what we celebrate in the Christian church was taken over from pagan holidays. Christmas is celebrated near the winter solstice (Dec 21) because it was a time where need was most felt; the poor going into winter where food and resources would be at their least. The corruption in commercialism has detracted from what Christmas was all about; giving to those who have little to begin with and trying to bring the good news of Jesus along with it.
As for Easter, I assume the weekend was chosen because people wouldn't be tied down by their work to celebrate the occasion. It's just a guess.Mar 30 2012: Roy, let me understand you. The following questions are linked to your talk in more ways than one.
Do you believe that the death of Jesus Christ makes an atonement for our sins once and for all times?
Also, do you believe that Jesus Christ's death provided a ransom in order to erase the damage done by Adam?
Furthermore, since you and Adriaan speak so much of symbols, do you celebrate Easter and Christmas as tradition, or do you feel that these are pagan holidays and have no place in pure worship?
I am trying to understand your personal view.....most people see nothing wrong with these celebrations because it is the thought that counts.
There is also the school of apologetics, in which pretty much anything goes.
My main concern, I guess, is that many people today justify their watering down of God's words with pholosophies of men.....it goes back to the issue of God's sovereignty. Does God have the right to tell us how to worship him as our Creator? And if he has that right, what does the Bible teach is the correct way?
Your answers will be greatly appreciated, as I am very open to talking about everyone's beliefs. I will then share some information I have regarding the same.
Thankyou Roy.
Mar 30 2012: Mary,
For the first two questions, the answer is yes. For the third question, I celebrate Christmas and Easter for what it tells us of Jesus' life.
Jesus said every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and cast into the fire. He gave the parable of the good seed. Some fell on stony ground and withered. Some fell among the thorns and was choked. Some fell on fertile soil and brought forth fruit. I see too many Christian groups that believe that Jesus' death on the cross is all encompassing and it doesn't matter what they do otherwise, as long as they believe. Paul spoke of babes in Christ but they haven't taken of the meat. I see Christianity as a growing process and many Christians don't care what happens in this life because they are going to leave it all behind anyway. That is what the atheists are all hot and bothered about. What are you doing to make the world a better place, and many are willing to do nothing because Jesus says come rest in me. I don't believe he meant lazy.Mar 31 2012: Ok Roy, thank you.
Now let me ask you this, you said, and you are correct, that:
"Much of what we celebrate in the Christian church was taken over from pagan holidays. Christmas is celebrated near the winter solstice (Dec 21) because it was a time where need was most felt; the poor going into winter where food and resources would be at their least. The corruption in commercialism has detracted from what Christmas was all about;"
And knowing this doesn't bother you? You still celebrate this festival. What fellowship do light and darkness have? Do you think God approves of such festivities?
Easter is just as contaminated. Like I said before, Jesus instructed his disciples humbly in an upper chamber to partake of wine and unlevened bread to symbolize his body and blood. This command is something that true christians should adhere to on the night that commerates the anniversary of his death. This year it falls on April 5th.
Seeing religions and so called spiritual individuals partake of all these holidays which are not scriptural in nature really leaves me wondering.
I can't blame people for turning away from religions, they do not present the scriptural truth to their perishioners, instead, they water down scriptural truths to have more members, and to keep people happy.
As long as we try to please humans, we will be at a loss for pleasing God. His word is truth. When I try to share my faith, I like to quote scripture. It is God's word, not mine. Alot more could be said, but I'll leave it here.
Thank you for reading my comment.
Mar 31 2012: I haven't been in any Christian church that wasn't bothered by the commercialization of Christmas and Easter. They all speak of Christmas as celebrating the birth of Christ, and they all speak of Easter as the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So I don't understand the basis of your comment as relates to religion.
I have heard many a minister or priest criticize his parish for putting too much emphasis on Christmas as getting and giving gifts and forgetting the real reason for the season. I have heard the same ones criticize their parish for even thinking of Easter eggs and bunnies and not rejoicing for the sacrifice that Jesus made.
It is big business that commercializes Christmas and Easter with total disregard to religion. When you see advertisements on these holidays, they have nothing to do with religion. They're even taking the word Christ out of Christmas because it's all about money. That part does bother me.Mar 31 2012: "I haven't been in any Christian church that wasn't bothered by the commercialization of Christmas and Easter..........and yet they continue to be a party to it all.
I guess that is why I left the religion I was raised in and started to ask questions and to study the Bible.
I have learned quite alot. I am still growing in knowledge, and in understanding. I am a work in progress. Aren't we all?
The christian congregation which I visit does not celebrate holidays that are tainted with pagan rituals. I find this satisfies my need for worship.....I have no desire to follow humanity in celebrations which do not honor God. I love to give gifts from my heart any time of year, and also love family reunions and getting together with friends at the drop of a hat......I do not miss any of it.
As for Easter, I adhere to the way Jesus instructed on the night of his death, to continue taking the bread and drinking the wine in symbol of his body and shed blood. Doing it in memory of him. On Nisan 14 (April 5th this year) I will be attending a special one hour worship service where we will remember the ultimate gift anyone has given mankind......to me it is a solemn occassion. Perhaps you found an invitation to attend on your doorstep?
Thank you for answering my questions Roy. I really appreciate it very much. And thank you for the quality of this discussion once again. Not all discussions on TED that deal with religion and faith are upbuilding......not all of them have built bridges. Some comment in a way that is condescending and reflect the spirit of controversy. I am glad you have chosen to take the high road.
All my best, and thank you for this great topic. Even though we chased a rabbit huh? (Figuratively)
Apr 1 2012: Mary,
I have learned so much about how other people think. I was quite surprised at some of the answers.
We are all a work in progress once we start asking questions and not accepting answers that fail to lead to understanding. When someone tells me "that is something that we will know when we die", or "some things we were not meant to know", I interpret that as "I don't know" and I go looking for someone else that might be able to lead me to an answer that I can understand. I think more people are beginning to think this way.
I have not, nor ever have found such an invitation. You are the first that has introduced it to me.Apr 1 2012: Someone actually thought of posting a one-minute video of the invitation on youtube.
Here is the link Roy.....
MaryMar 27 2012: Just a though on the categories...I think many A-3's have a B-3 leader who is just using A-3ism as way to control his peoples. And B-1s just look at that and say...Wow look at what those people are doing in the name of God...When really they aren't.
Mar 27 2012: I wouldn't doubt that many political leaders use religious beliefs to promote their political agendas. You make a very good point and one worth considering in how we learn to deal with the issue. Do you believe that life goes on and how does that affect your life?
Mar 27 2012: To make a VERY long story short I believe what God put in us returns to him.
When I was younger it effected my life was greatly effected by this... and I don't mean that in a bad way. It helped me fight against self destructive behaviors. It helped me to take solace at times when I thought the world was against me.
lAt this point in my life I still know and believe these things but it seems many times this isn't the first thought that pops into my head when confronted with problems or even when I am happy. Not that it doesn't effect me at all...I still use this knowledge to help me look at the big picture when I start being too self centered...or thinking my problems and accomplishments are the end all to beat all. I feel there is a bigger purpose to us and that life is a test. It helps me realize that everyone is connected and I can't truly hate my enemies...but try and understand them...and change what I can. I still do wrong...but I know its wrong and can strive for better.
When I get older...I suspect and hope that It will become more of a daily part of my life.
I know this isn't the right way to look at things according to most religions including my own, but I am being honest.
Mar 27 2012: James, I believe that you have a healthy perspective on religion. Modern religion is not what it used to be. Old time religion was about the spiritual quest, not adherence to doctrine. Paul said "made us able ministers of the new testament, not of the letter, but of the spirit" (2Cor 3:6). You have to go beyond the words and find God within. It appears that you are doing that.Apr 2 2012: I don't think anyone is affected by the idea of an afterlife.
Apr 2 2012: I was when I was a Christian. I was terrified my parents were not born again Christians and were going to hell.
I tried to convert them - to get them to accept Jesus as their lord and saviour etc.
Apr 3 2012: Obey,
Are you saying you are no longer a Christian?
Apr 3 2012: Yes, I no longer follow any religionApr 3 2012: But were you a child? I can see how a child or a really deluded person might be afraid of afterlife.
Can a sane adult fear hell?
Correct me if I'm wrong, I know nothing about this. I suspect suicide bombers are not doing it for the afterlife, but for the benefit of their community , in which case it's nothing unusual.
I really don't think the bombers are thinking about screwing virgins as much as they are thinking about doing the right thing because the community wants them to. Otherwise, people would be blowing themselves up by the million.
Apr 3 2012: It was during my teens.
Most Christian denominations have hell dogma.
There were plenty of adults who believed in hell and were concerned for the children, spouse, relatives friends.
I was at a family funeral recently and some relatives were concerned about the eternal welfare of the deceased.
This highly probable delusion impacts many people, just like many aspects of religion and dogma. The Catholic church anti Semitic teaching and support has impacted the Jews. Jesus din't mention homosexuality much, but many Christians are fervently anti homosexuality and some anti homosexuals.
No idea what individual suicide bombers are thinking or motivated by. Probably a range of issues.
Are you religious Gerald?
There are people who vividly believe in heaven and hell.
I suggest you might be seriously underestimating the influence religion has on culture, laws, values, behaviour, society and individuals - fears and hopes etc.Apr 2 2012: Gerald,
Holy wars are fought on the premise that some great reward awaits them. In this case, a belief in an afterlife can have untold negative effects. When I was young, the belief that some inevitable horror might await me had considerable effect on my life as my father was a perfectionist and therefore, I couldn't seem to do anything right. My father's belief in a purgatory led him to alcoholism until a priest told him that they no longer teach purgatory and believe that it was a false belief. These are the negative effects. I also see positive effects in which some do good in hopes that some reward awaits them, even when this life has left them with nothing to hope for.Apr 1 2012: Hey Roy
I"m not saying that there is no afterlife. I mean I've never experienced it and have yet to see the evidence but no one knows if there is or isn't and that's all I've been saying.
But I'm disturb a bit because all we have to be certain of is our moment to moment experiences of the world. And I understand the concern about those who do bad deeds seems to get away with their actions. I understand how hard it must be to live in such a universe. I honestly have nothing to say about that because I do not know what happens. All I know is that bad things happen just as much as good things happen. It really is meaningless suffering that we are afraid of (at least it seems to be the case).
Your second paragraph is something of a misconception. It comes off as if I say life is not meaningful if one does not embrace the notion of an afterlife. Most of my post have been about the value of this life; our current life, the present moment and how much one should enjoy it. All because I assert that its unlikely that an afterlife exist does not mean that I have taken a plunge into nihilism. If anything it should encourage us to seek other avenues of meaning and understanding instead of creating one that may be false and encouraging others to do the same.
Please don't take my comments the wrong way and think I'm trying to encourage you or anyone else to change your beliefs because I understand that beliefs are all that can really matter and if it saves someones life or prevents them from doing dangerous things then I'm all for that. All in all, I'm trying to answer your question in how I see the world but this does not mean that my accounts are correct.
Apr 1 2012: Orlando,
Your comments appear very open and honest to me. I too want to see a world that embraces life for all it has to offer, and if this conversation allows me to see the fallacies that keep us from reaching that point, then it will have served its purpose. In the short time that I have been on TED talks, I have seen things that I wasn't expecting. I used to regard people like you as someone who saw life as Dog-Eat-Dog and then you die. And I am learning that you care about life and want people to live in the present and not forsake this life for some reward in the future. I am coming to appreciate that viewpoint.
I have also learned that although some don't believe in God, they believe in something greater than themselves and are willing to search that out. I am even finding Christians who have strong negative feelings about organized religion because of what they teach. I too had such feelings, but felt that there is much good despite the bad.
As to my second paragraph, I wasn't pertaining it to you, that is how I would feel if I came to believe that life didn't go on. I actually came to that point once in my life and it was a dreadful feeling. I admit that I have no understanding of an afterlife, and would also admit that my views of it probably differ considerably from what most religious people think. But I feel connected to something greater than myself and do not see death as the end.
I think we both want a better world. We both know that some views are hostile to making that happen. I hope that in sharing our thoughts, we will see more and get others to think about what will move us in that direction.
Apr 1 2012: "But I feel connected to something greater than myself and do not see death as the end."
Roy, look what scripture says about your feelings:
"I have seen the occupation that God has given to the sons of mankind in which to be occupied. Everything he has made pretty in its time. Even time indefinite he has put in their heart......I have come to know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good during one's life, and also that every man should eat and drink and see good for all his hard work, It if the gift of God" Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes 3:10-13
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Sunday, February 17, 2013
Fabric and Radio
17 comments:
- Missy Shay said...
The only time my dining room table gets cleared off is when I invite people over too! Unless they are coming to sew or quilt, then it just gets straightened! I love that fabric!
- February 17, 2013 at 8:52 AM
- Melanie said...
It makes me feel so much better to hear I'm not the only one whose dining room table to covered in various craft projects! The only time it gets cleaned off is when company is coming. Can't wait to see what you do with that beautiful fabric! Love Dear Stella!
- February 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM
- Sew Nomadic said...
O wow that's awesome! I'm totally tuning in!!!! And I agree. That fabric screams picnic/summer/not awful winter. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
- February 17, 2013 at 3:17 PM
- Di~ said...
That's exciting. I'm looking forward to it. You and Amy on the same show???
- February 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM
- Maureen Cracknell Handmade said...
Congrats!! I just came from Amy's blog where I read the wonderful news of her being on the show, as well! Have fun!!
- February 17, 2013 at 6:15 PM
- Jane Brown said...
Really cute fabric!
- February 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM
- Carie said...
Now to me even the wide shot of your table looks tidy so perhaps that tells you all you need to know about my house! Love the fabric too, especially the one with little deck chairs, it should definitely be a BBQ quilt.
- February 18, 2013 at 1:00 AM
- Franziska said...
Big smile over here. So likeable.
Coordinates with my friend saying that the desk is not always clean because there's no need to take a photo of it and blog it. :)
- February 18, 2013 at 7:38 AM
- Jenny said...
Ha, ha - I also call our Dining Room table the Craft Table. Why would we need to eat there when we have a coffee table in front of the t.v.? And can't wait to see what you do with all of that gorgeous, summery fabric!
- February 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM
- Bear Creek Quilting Company said...
Wonderful radio presentation, Allison! We love your bright and fun patterns.
- February 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM
- Anna and Sarah said...
Thanks for the fun radio interview. You inspire us so much. Love your fabric choices, tips, tutorials, and patterns. Thanks again!
Come visit our blog!
Anna and Sarah
- February 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM
- Amy DeCesare said...
I think we could have a very large club made up of people who sew at the dining room table! You could be our president, with all of the inspiration that you supply at your table.
- February 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM
- kathy-o said...
Such a fun radio program - you are a natural! Your husband names all your patterns? sweet!
- February 18, 2013 at 3:37 PM
- Cindy said...
You and Amy did a great job on the radio program! I love your blog and your patterns!:)
- February 19, 2013 at 5:06 AM
- Carla said...
I listened to your interview! Great job! It's funny because I always thought to myself that "cluck, cluck" was the sound of the sewing machine! Well, at least it was the sound of my old machine when I started quilting. Or maybe it was "ka-thunk, ka-thunk" ;)
- February 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM
- Amy P. said...
I listened as well! I just came across the radio podcast yesterday and loved it! You were awesome, I just had to pop by :).
- February 25, 2013 at 12:00 PM
- trish said...
What a fabulous show to listen to! :o)
- March 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM