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- Martin Odber
- Windsor Ontario
- Canada
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Why is marijuana illegal?
Marijuana WHY is it illegal?
Some say "It's a gateway drug to hard drugs because when people buy this drug off dealers they are exposed to hard drugs" If this were the reasoning legalizing marijuana would mean people wouldn't need to go to dealers who may hook them on hard drugs so we'd be "closing the gate" between soft and hard drugs.
Some say "Marijuana can kill you if you smoke it." So far there appear to be 0 recorded deaths from any kind of overdose.
Some say "Marijuana can give you mad cow disease" So far not only does it not do that but its showing to have MANY positive medical affects including but not limited to fighting cancer.
Some say "the legal costs to taxpayers to keep marijuana illegal are beyond staggering" So far this is absolutely correct.
Our debate is to determine exactly what justifies the significant societal costs of marijuana being illegal on any level at all.
Dec 2 2013: Martin, perhaps a better question is why aren't big pharma chemicals illegal?
When one reads all the possible consequences one has to be brain dead to take them.... which becomes a chicken and egg circular argument.
Marijuana is incredibly safe when compared to many of these very dangerous drugs.... that are legal because they make someone obscene profits...
Wake up and connect the dots....
Dec 3 2013: Hi Craig,
I'm not sure if it's a "better" question… Maybe it's rather a question for a new conversation (that you could host)?
And I find Martin to be quite awake and able of playing connect-the-dots…
I remember one guy coming in to a conversation on the second amendment and he said something along the lines of "But cigarettes kill millions, why aren't we speaking about that", I told him that we were, in another conversation, because these conversations are topic oriented and that anyone who wishes may start a new Conversation.
Dec 3 2013: Jimmy, when Martin says thumbs up to my comment and he started the conversation, your comment becomes not relevant....not my re-framing the question.
Sky Line
Dec 8 2013: Marijuana is illegal and this is normal.
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Ok, it can be used for treatment, which is the case in my country. But it is normal that it can only be sold on prescription from your doctor.
In all other cases it is a drug that alters the way you are, you are less aware and that is dangerous. You can do things you do not realize. You can put you in danger.
While the effect is different for different people.
But I think it's normal that it's illegal.
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Dec 8 2013: Sky,
I respect that some persons are accepting. That a law is what it is and its not to ever be questioned. However I cannot agree with this point of view. To do so would be to willingly become a nation of slaves, and that does not benefit the individual nor the group although it may seem the easy path, that is all it is, the easy path to slavery.
What if we are not talking about marijuana?
What if we are talking about .. lets see.. how about meat?
Suppose vegetarians gain a majority government and outlaw eating meat.
If you are caught eating meat you will be arrested, put through the courts, imprisoned (perhaps for life)
Lets face it meat is not entirely good for us to eat and can produce issues in certain cases.
Would you be willing to champion that law?
Coffee, alters the way you are, so does tea, so do many soft drinks, as well as things like sugar. Really willing to support laws that imprison you for using them?
We really "might" want to think this through a bit further ..Dec 9 2013: Yeah, I think it's normal that people are stupid... doesn't make it right...Dec 2 2013: My suggestion is that most people fear change and public exposition. That the answer is neither philosophical nor political, per se, but personal, which is, I believe, the source from which all change emanates. When one accepts personal responsibility, and is willing to be forthright about it, the risks can be enormous, as can the benefits. For example, nearly everyone I've encountered in my 66 years of life have smoked pot at one time or another. Most still do so...secretly.Secrecy is the operative word. They are willing to buy and smoke illegally, but not expose themselves to advocacy for fear of some kind of retribution for doing so. Many will deny it politically because they do not want to be exposed as having smoked it, afraid of condemnation. Perhaps because it is illegal, the risk is considered too great. The benefits, on the other hand, are personal, but they are unanimous...it feels good, promotes social relaxation, and camaraderie. People are reticent to advocate for pleasure in our culture.
Martin Odber
Dec 2 2013: Certainly it is extremely easy to see the validity in the arguments that change is feared so an object in motion tends to stay in motion regardless of its logic and that a risk of personal consequence(s) seems to pale any possible reward(s.)
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It should be considered that technology via big brother and other is hurtling us at an incomprehensible rate of speed towards 100% adherence to all laws regardless of their ethical validity.
Secrecy will soon be a concept of the past.
The ONLY time honored exception to this is if a person is rich enough or powerful enough to be above the law.
Society in general will face inescapable enslavement if the laws are unjust or the institutionalization of liberty if the laws are just.
( "just" for this purpose meaning logical outcomes that we would feel were right if applied to ourselves or others under the same circumstances and NOT the outcome of a court decision based on who had the better lawyer where facts and evidence can be ignored or misrepresented)
It is to every persons advantage and interest to do what one can to ensure that the laws which govern us are ones we feel are ethical, just and logical.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
Harald Jezek
Nov 27 2013: There are all the arguments you mention above, however, none really holds.
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Let's look at the Netherlands. Marihuana is sold in dedicated stores such as cafe. They even sell you seeds, growing equipment etc.
That seems to be working perfectly fine. Nobody sees junkies all over the place. People consume their joint as they would a cafe.
Look at alcohol and tobacco. Both kill more people than marihuana.
Bottom line, there is no logic behind marihuana prohibition. It's all politics and inflexibility to change laws that make no real sense.Nov 19 2013: It's illegal because it competed with DuPont. Hemp is an excellent fiber source, in many ways better than nylon.
Nov 19 2013: True and it is still used in a number of industrial applications, but nylon is cheaper then hemp and is sufficient for use in all but a few cases. There are clothing lines and other consumer goods made from hemp fiber. But, again is was about market demand, not some great conspiracy theory by the DuPonts. Farmers can get more return from other crops then hemp. And remember, hemp grown for fiber is not quite the same as the other hemp grown.Nov 18 2013: Because your country rulers you voted for decided it to be so and to keep it that way...
On a cultural level: other cultures ban other drugs... The reason to ban one above another is more arbitrary than based on actual effects and societal impact.
I think the discussion should rather be: do (in your case Canadian) citizens wish to change the juridical status of this drug?
The whole debate should rest on the (utilitarian) trade-off of costs and benefits:
- what type of ruling will be economically advantageous (taxing cannabis 300% would be a good income for the state)
- what is the societal impact: do we wish to increase or decrease the use?
- What are the costs in health or psychological well-being? (Individual impact?)
- What ruling would make us happy on short, middle, and long term...
- does it fit our culture?
&c &c
On a personal note:
I think any drug should be legal and taxed in function of the 'cleanup*' cost. I would also test a form of registration of the amount you buy and see if we might want health-workers to have your level of usage in your medical file (in order to advise or prevent addiction). *The total cost should be paid by the taxes on the product.
And of course: inform the people about the benefits and drawbacks of the drug.
Nov 18 2013: "The whole debate should rest on the (utilitarian) trade-off of costs and benefits:"
would you base your analysis of slavery on similar arguments?
Nov 18 2013: Yes I most definitely would,
(Though slavery is an example and off topic:
And I would probably assign the adversity of being a slave or becoming a slave as very very high, though I might come up with a thought experiment where the best solution to the problem is making a certain number of people slaves.
Then again, you shouldn't think slavery is all that bad: if you are being taken care of, and only need to follow instructions, have some days of and some degrees of liberty, then maybe you are better of than a person who needs to work very hard in order to repay his debts and is unable to provide for the healthcare of his children. )
If you wish to push the matter: I reject the idea of principle moral mostly, as I see no value in assigning an infinite weight to a specific set of principles (that would seem too dogmatic to me).
Nov 18 2013: it is good that we are now clear on that. (aside from that attempt to derail the conversation in the direction of voluntary slaver, which was not in question.)
on the contrary, i have moral laws that are unquestionable, regardless of the consequences. for example: if there is a drug that is so attractive that everyone tries it and everyone gets addicted to it and everyone dies, i still oppose banning it, because it is still not your business. you are welcome not to try it, and be the last man alive. but you have no say in whether i try it or not.Nov 18 2013: We do indeed differ in opinion and I think we could go at great length to see what the differences in conclusions would be on a whole set of moral problems. (And I think it would be very interesting, though this forum seems not the greatest setting to do so).
Nov 18 2013: you don't have any good reasoning why you choose a value system over another. if you dig deeper and deeper, it will always be arbitrary at the end. it is your choice vs others' choice. and at that point, there are really only two ways to go: respect what others thing, or don't respect. i personally don't care about the rationale at all. one needs to be extremely stupid to not be able to come up with some reasoning. everyone has a reasoning. i only care about what do you when you arrive to the point of disagreement. you take a gun, and point it to the head of the other person, or you try to argue, ask, negotiate or just agree to disagree.
please bear in mind that i'm talking about cases in which it is possible to agree to disagree. if we debate the ownership of a piece of land, it is not possible. we can't both have it. but it is very much possible with, for example, marijuana consumption. my consumption, per se, has no effect on anything other than my own body. i can come to a conclusion that marijuana consumption, all things considered, is beneficial for me. and if you come to a different conclusion, reaching out for a gun is not acceptable.
and so we arrived the most interesting question of all: how do we define the boundary of my personal sphere? how do we define cause and effect? if my physical deterioration saddens someone, did i cause that sadness with my reckless self destruction? does that other person have a say in how i live? does that person have ownership over a part of my life? or what about the possibility that i might cause some fire drunk, and do harm to others' property? or what if i could discover something great, but i trash my brain instead? did i hurt anyone? we need a philosophical framework to discuss this issue.
alas, i attempted to bring this topic up in another conversation, and it sparked literally zero attention.Nov 18 2013: Ok, I would not consider reaching for a gun in a case where you claim to have pleasure. I could try and persuade you that you might want to consider long term effects. I might also give you your right to rot and let you sign that you refrain from any plea towards human compassion in the future when it comes to repairing your health.
(Or I could be compassionate after you are a wreck and get you better so you can continue to use the substances you want)
As for personal boundary: as there is no essence, the boundary is fluid and open to debate all the time.
defining (rather: determining) cause and effect is not always possible, though most often it can be done in principle. In practice it is not always easy, and not always necessary, as there are negotiable solutions or compromises to be found.
As said: you can live however you want (without seriously harming others) and go for the biggest orgasm or overdose or masochism. The remainder of society might decide to let you do that in isolation or by depriving you from their assistance or help even if you would ask for it (though I think a society should uphold high values).
My personal reason to opt for the utilitarian approach is that it is concordant with Sam Harris' view (he explains it way better than I could in 'the moral landscape'): avoid harm to conscious creatures and improve the general well-being of those creatures. Even if multi-dimensional, there is always a direction that points to "better" or "worse". Seeking higher moral ground is possible and not completely arbitrary (so there are reasons to do so).
Furthermore, principle-moral seems like an exceptional case of utilitarian morale, where the assignment of moral importance of one rule (or set of rules) is set to infinite.
I think it is important to err on the side of personal freedom and liberty. though I am prepared to judge someone's behavior as harmful (and limit his actions) even if he thinks it is not.
Nov 18 2013: you give me the right, but others don't. there is a gun at my head, as we speak. the guy on the other end of the barrel is dressed in blue. he is not considered a criminal. he is the good guy. i'm the bad guy. i'm the guy that need to be disciplined, because otherwise i would buy weed and enjoy it. nobody handed me an opt-out paper to sign, nor it is possible. there is no escape from their "care". so what now?
i think there is a good definition to the causality i'm talking about. the framework is called "property". it is far from being straightforward. but it is a framework that is usable if one takes the time to fully explore. my body is my property. also my property is everything anyone gave me voluntarily (for example traded). property can be as elusive as usage right to something, like a landscape, or breathing the air. property can only be tangible, physical. and we only need one rule: nobody should damage or take the property of someone else. again, exploring this idea might be difficult. but once applied, the results are clear and simple.Nov 19 2013: The person you call the good guy is arguably not the good guy. (unless you have done other things not mentioned in your example).
As holding a gun to ones head (a life threat) is a serious harmful hazard (unless you are kinky or masochistic), the benefit of doing so must be much bigger (if it reduces the total number of guns pointed to people drastically, then it might be ok). These are clearly not the case. The benefits of stopping you using cannabis is not worth the gun to your head.
I would hope that in such case, people would start to protest and undertake action to improve their society and system they live in.
As for property or ownership rights: I think we have such things in our juridical system and most cultures accept the idea of property and ownership.
Again: for taking away property, there must be 'good' reasons. (for example: someone gave you a stolen good or a harmful material you cannot control or an untamed raging gorilla). ((come to think: what about owning a child, a mammal or a plant.... Can you own it? to what extend can you damage it yourself?))
As for damaging: If I damage something you own, I should reimburse you (e.g. a car crash where error was indeed judged to be mine). If I am starving and take an apple from your apple tree (by entering your garden), would you point a gun and chase me away? (I mean: is your property right so holy it justifies small transgressions of it?)
Nov 19 2013: what protests?? this the common situation in most countries. there are protests, some hundred people used to show up. recently, in my country, the commando (!) kicked the door in on a guy to apprehend him for growing marijuana on his own property. if i'm caught buying it, they put me in a prison cell. this is what "illegal" means. this what we hide behind the nice words. it is raw violence to beat citizens into submission. the very opening question of this conversation is whether we want to do that or not.
property: those are the easy cases. the harder cases are something like: taxation, social security, social security and self inflicted harm, selling harmful products to informed customers, copying the policies/products of a successful company, spreading rumors about someone or something, and so on. example: do i damage your company if i write an article that your product is a crap? did i violate your property rights?Nov 20 2013: In Belgium, we have less oppressive measures against marijuana, although in my home town, our mayor recently opened his war on drugs. There is a lot of debate, and we continue to look for positive ways to discourage abuse and inform people and provide easy ways to get help if you wish to stop your substance dependence.
Maybe Hungary has political parties that oppose such repressive measures? I suggest considering to vote for them or help to get the issue on the agenda of the parliament.
About property: interesting examples... I hope that you have good laws that provide good guidelines and good judges to apply it to specific cases in order to sort things out for the better. Property right is indeed something to take into account, but there are other rights (like freedom of speech or self-determination for example). Depending on the case, another right might be seen as superior or more important than property right. (I'm also thinking that property doesn't take into account that on a collective level we cannot say the earth belongs to us and not to the next generations, hence we cannot destroy our ecosystem if at the same time we wish for our race to survive)
Nov 20 2013: ah, we have all kind of parties. the one that will almost certainly win the next elections advocates the harshest measures against drug users, as drugs are destroying society, blah blah. they like symbolism, like all populists do. the parties that have any chance of winning are cowards in this matter, they don't want any fuss about it. they would sneak in some easing, but not significant. the only party that wholeheartedly advocates decriminalizing drug use (only use, not trade) has like 2% votes. this is a very grim picture, but not unusual. some european countries has lighter regulations, but others have similar. the public talk is not a basis for optimism either. look around in this conversation: we supposed to talk about legalizing, but it is all about how harmful it is. so what?? hamburger is harmful too! people don't even understand the question.
property: not at all. current laws violate property rights on many occasions. and by the way, those other rights should not be "other" rights. freedom of speech follows from property rights. in fact, our law limits the freedom of speech in many ways, while pure property based rights would not. a good example of spreading negative and unproven information. in hungarian law, it is forbidden. in the strict property right system, it is perfectly legal. you own your body, therefore you say whatever you like. the only consequence is that you can make contracts by words, and those are binding. but if i say microsoft puts backdoor in their operating system, or i call a politician a pimp, i can be sued by them according to the current law. but they could not according to strict property rights.Nov 20 2013: I would, and the cost of "Severely endangering the souls of all who take part in institutionalized slavery." would be an extremely high cost that would have to be outweighed by a remarkably high benefit. Not all "costs" and "benefits" must be fiscal.Nov 18 2013: Harry J. Anslinger and the prohibition movement.
I believe it's clearly cruel to jail people for it. And I believe everyone should try it. So on an ideological front, I support legalization.
Though weighing the costs and benefits of legalizing marijuana in this time and place, and considering the culture and means of cultivation and sale that have arose from its prohibition, I'm not so sure I'd like it legal. Decriminalized, absolutely, but I see some benefits in its current status, and some unpleasant side effects we may have to deal with if it were to be made legal. At least for a tax-evading, gun toting right-winger like myself.
First off, prohibition hasn't stopped anyone from smoking it. Though the number of marijuana arrests is staggering, this is still an incredibly small percentage of marijuana smokers. In most areas it's cultivated locally, sold locally, and I think I'd prefer that grassroots economy over the environment we'd have in 20 years if Philip Morris took over. I think the culture would degrade as well - marijuana's status as an illegal drug and commonly used substance puts it in the twilight zone of society's acceptance - it bonds society against a great injustice and gives us all a healthy dose of scrutiny of the establishment. Quite different from the culture and stigma that has arisen around tobacco and alcohol.
That, and I sure as hell don't want them to tax it. Sorry progressives. Legalization doesn't necessarily mean freedom for the plant. To really support the change, we'd have to discuss the terms. Can individuals grow it, or do they need a license? What will be the effects of patents, marketing and industry? I really doubt the prices would be any cheaper.
I'm a lover of home grown tobacco. I suggest everyone try it, then reassess the cigarretes they bought at the corner store. There's quite the difference between a dried tobacco leaf and the reconstituted leaf sheets that the industry prints and applies ammonium to.
Nov 27 2013: Fred, I tend to agree with and enjoy reading what you wrote but can you think of any truly just reason for marijuana to be illegal?
Nov 27 2013: In the context of social justice, no, none whatsoever. Even if a society felt the need to outlaw dangerous substances to maintain peace and stability, cannabis clearly doesn't fit that ticket. Cannabis has a profound effect on one's thoughts and perspective, and if the thoughts and perspectives induced by cannabis and psychedelic substances are at all legitimate, then the prohibition of those substances are an attack on the freedom of thought, and arguably a form of oppression.
Though with this in mind, I'm reminded of a quote by George Orwell:
"If large numbers of people believe in freedom of speech, there will be freedom of speech even if the law forbids it. But if public opinion is sluggish, inconvenient minorities will be persecuted, even if laws exist to protect them."
This quote is often referenced in the context of rights not exercised, though I feel our current context here is a good example of the first sentence. Freedoms aren't simply granted by the state. We're inherently beings with free will. The state can only attempt to prohibit freedoms, and then, prohibition is only as effective as its enforcement. So that brings us to my larger point - legalization of marijuana is not an urgent requirement for us to finally have the freedom to smoke it. Also, legalization doesn't at all mean no regulation.
So now, I can ask you: Can you think of any truly just reason for cannabis to be regulated at all?
Nov 27 2013: Absolutely.
An end to criminalization.
Regulations to prevent abuse to society by non responsible persons.
Reduction in tax payer dollars used to control marijuana users.
Increase in profits made from legitimate sales of marijuana and hemp products as well as spinoffs.Nov 27 2013: I'll take the first and the third, but the second - Regulations to prevent abuse to society by non-responsible persons - I could use to answer your initial question. I might say, as many people would, that society stands to be abused if the people were allowed to inebriate themselves with marijuana. To which I actually personally disagree, placing myself in a camp against that camp. So I disagree with the prohibitionists. But then, as you say here, there's a camp that's for legalization, but still for regulation, for the exact same reason I just stated, that society stands to be abused. So I kindly disagree with your camp as well, and have before now, as I realize that legalization isn't the end of regulation at all, but actually means more regulation once the plant is legalized for sale.
Your fourth reason - Increase in profits... - I have to ask, increase in profits for who? The current environment of growers and dealers aren't likely to see an increase in profits if it were legalized, quite the opposite. When marijuana was on the ballot for legalization in California, some of the bill's most dedicated opponents were from the Emerald Triangle and the medical marijuana industry.
If by 'legitimate sales' you mean certified industry players or government in a post-legalized world, then that's the same reason a current grower or dealer would oppose legalization, profit incentive. Which is fine, but originally I was under the impression that by 'just reason' you meant morally or socially just.
Dec 7 2013: Fred you got my head.
It took a second look but you finally got it right all the way!
Regulation by the government is better than the current insane criminalization but not much better because as we know the corporations already run the government all the way to the Supreme Court and I am not impressed with what they have done to the government.
What is the matter with de-criminalizing it and letting communities set their own standards? If there has to be standards at all (it's just a happy plant - leave it alone, what are we going to regulate next? dandylions), I trust my community more than the government.
Sarah T
Nov 18 2013: The societal cost of marijuana being illegal is the massive waste of criminal justice resources (at least here in the US). Drugs, for obvious reasons, are high recidivism crimes. I worked in corrections for a few years and you could always spot the drug addict files because they were HUGE as a result of all the convictions over the years.
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Each one of those charges represented a police officer that had to arrest them and take them to the jail, a jail that had to process and house them (at least for a few hours), a court that had to process the paperwork, a public defender to represent them, another stint in jail, and possibly a probation officer AND a mandated, sometimes paid for by the public, drug treatment program. Repeat that process 3, 5, 10, 15 times...That's true of any illicit drug. Marijuana's relationship to other crimes (i.e. theft, assault, etc) is very small in comparison to other drugs.
The drug that is most commonly related to all crime is alcohol. It is legal. It has massive real, public costs. I have never been able to reconcile how alcohol can be legal and marijuana not.
In my personal opinion, making any drug illegal is a waste of time. People are going to do it regardless (as has been proven over time). Drug treatment programs only work for people who want to be clean. I think regulating all drugs like alcohol makes more sense.
*Please note my opinions are based on the US system. Things may be much different elsewhere.
Nov 27 2013: You bring an important aspect of the discussion to light I feel Sarah. You mention that marijuana may equal recidivism but that it is not directly linked to other crimes aside from usage, while other drugs are.
Thank you for pointing this out to us.Dec 7 2013: I certainly concur with Sarah T to the tee!Dec 17 2013: Since this conversation is about to close I'd just like to share http://www.breakingthetaboo.info/ one last time. A global call to end the war on drugs.
Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_the_Taboo
President Juan Manuel Santos - President of Colombia
President Otto Pérez Molina - President of Guatemala
President César Gaviria - Former President of Colombia
President Lech Wałęsa - Former President of Poland, Nobel Prize winner
President Aleksander Kwaśniewski - Former President of Poland
Sir Richard Branson - Entrepreneur and Founder of the Virgin Group
Bernardo Bertolucci - Oscar-winning Film Director
Carlos Fuentes - Novelist and essayist
Sean Parker - Founding President of Facebook, Director of Spotify
Thorvald Stoltenberg - Former Minister of Foreign Affairs (Norway) and UN High Commissioner for Refugees
Asma Jahangir - Former UN Special Rapporteur on Arbitrary, Extrajudicial and Summary Execution
Louise Arbour, CC, GOQ - Former UN High-Commissioner for Human Rights
Professor Sir Anthony Leggett - Physicist, Nobel Prize winner
Dr. Kary Mullis - Chemist, Nobel Prize winner
Maria Cattaui - Former Secretary-General of the International Chamber of Commerce
Wisława Szymborska - Poet, Nobel Prize winner
Professor Sir Harold Kroto - Chemist, Nobel Prize winner
Professor Sir Harold Kroto - Chemist, Nobel Prize winner
Gilberto Gil - Musician, former Minister of Culture, Brazil
Professor Thomas C. Schelling - Economist, Nobel Prize winner
Professor Sir Peter Mansfield - Economist, Nobel Prize winner
Professor Niall Ferguson - Professor of History at Harvard University
Professor Colin Blakemore - Professor of Neuroscience at the University of Oxford and University of Warwick
Professor David Nutt - Former Chair of the Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs
Professor Sir Partha Dasgupta - Professor of Economics at Cambridge
And there's a lot more, please check: http://www.breakingthetaboo.info/mission_page.htmDec 15 2013: There was a very interesting article which was talking about psychedelics, and the mind altering states people got into, and their outcome. And how they were used in the 60's until one day the federal government literally shut them all down. Even those ones that produced quality research.
Even the research done by top and creditable established researchers was ordered destroyed, even thought it showed that people from IBM, Apple (Jobs) all used these drugs and they found it gave them the ability to see problems and issues they had in a new light, and often gave them the ability to solve them, with solutions that had been unseen.
You see the rationale was that people might no longer submit to authority, and if that happened the consequences would be very dire for the various governments around the world. So during a few days every lab / researcher was either personally visited or ordered to destroy, lsd, marijuana etc.
In the late 60/70s there was a campaign run to show people the horrors and warnings associated with "drugs".
It did too, however, give the the similar reasoning to question the 'status-quo', but slanted a parental level, ie rebellious kids. And other various 'scare' tactics (people become murderers, genetic mutation). Thus giving the government a 'mandate by the people' to ban it. So virtually every government around the world followed suit and banned it.
And ALL 'so-called' hallucinogenics since, regardless of worthiness, or medical rationale, or any other positive rationale have been banned/illegal by governments from that day forward.
Job's was quoted as saying "Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there's another side to the coin, and you can't remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.Dec 12 2013: Marijuana was made illegal due to the prohibition era of the early 20th century.
It remained illegal so as to generate a base for the government to funnel money into; different sectors of itself/law enforcement.
Its pretty much a "stubborn law" that is being held on to so tight, due to the taxable $$$ the (ie.) DEA generates in combating its illegality.
The counter balance will be its medicinal & recreational uses. However the "ace in the hole" sorta speak (for its revival) will be the taxable monies (generated)* in sales v.s. (lost) in loosing its "enforcment" generated taxes (ie. DEA) ~?~
I believe that the scales are already tipping... we just have to wait a while, as bureaucracy's a bitch.
Check out my other convo on Cannabis v.s. SSRI's in depression, anxioty, etc...
*No matter how you look at it the Cultivation, Production, Distribution (transportation), and Sales, are all taxable instances in the legal sale of Cannabis. The whole cycle is intrinsically a money maker.Dec 11 2013: Peter Christ (famous "Law Enforcement Against Prohibition" spokesperson) is having an AmA on Reddit right now.
Check the AmA http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1sklci/i_am_peter_christ_retired_police_captain_who/
And the reason he got famous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8yYJ_oV6xk
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Dec 9 2013: No you won't, check the % of users among youth where it's legal and you'll find no such correlation.
Both the Netherlands and Portugal for instance have lower usage rate then their neighboring countries.
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Dec 9 2013: I thought that it wen't without saying that age regulation would be a thing...
I think you're missing the point, more youth use pot where it's illegal for adults then places where it's legal for adults.Dec 9 2013: and if there was no regulation, you would give weed to your child?
Dec 8 2013: Funny how some people ignore decades of accumulated evidence warning against the long-term inhalation of smoke into the lungs once marijuana is brought into the equation.
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Other than being a pain-killer, please elaborate on the "MANY positive medical affects." I've never heard of any.
I agree with you that marijuana should be legal, but your hyperbolic and unsupportable rhetoric is a bit silly.
Dec 8 2013: ah the good old smoke argument. the best argument for vaporizers. and space cakes.
Dec 9 2013: Yeah, and also smoking pure marijuana (without tobacco) has shown no increase in cancer rates.
Dec 9 2013: i doubt that result, but it does not matter. you need to be a real badass to smoke 20-30 joints a day, like a regular smoker does. so the reduced number in itself is probably enough to render the health effects negligible.Dec 9 2013: You're probably right, I went back to check this info. Here's what I found on cancer risks http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm
We all get misinformed from time to time...Dec 6 2013: Kris, I can't agree.
Laws have been around since man came out of the caves and moved into villages.
Morality is what you believe to be good in yourself or what you see in others.
They are not the same. Laws can be made to limit what you hold as moral as in the use of Pot.
Each of us view others as moral ( good ) or immoral ( bad ).
An immoral person can obey the law and do immoral things.... just as a moral person can run afoul of the law.
Why would you think that accepting a law is unmanly? It is what it is. However, If someone believes a law is inappropriate, I can understand his actions to seek repeal. My self, i believe in the concept of law. For example, have you ever violated the law of gravity? Seriously, Man's laws are the means that created civilization.
You appear to feel strongly about the laws against the use of pot. I say, go somewhere where there are no laws.
I believe that our Federal law against pot was ill founded. It is too restrictive. Medical science has not fully evaluated any benefits that may be derived from this plant source. Federal law forbids even examining it.
There are states here in America, where pot is accepted for use.
Dec 6 2013: We are not discussing laws as a whole here Mike, and the laws against cannabis have only been in work since 1961, don't go on about cavemen when it comes to the legality of cannabis.
Dec 6 2013: I am not sure about cannabis laws where you are at, but it's been illegal here a lot longer.Dec 6 2013: "Laws have been around since man came out of the caves"
laws also *change* since then
Dec 6 2013: I know what he's gonna say...
Dec 6 2013: You know what I am going to say? Did I say it?Dec 6 2013: Kris,
Absolutely, specific laws can change and do. I was speaking more about the concept of laws, that has been around for a long time.Dec 4 2013: Kris,
You combined my comments...
Legal: Break the law go to jail. Not an original conclusion, I read that somewhere.
Drug effects: I am not a doctor, but I have had bad experiences with people how have abused drugs, Many drugs and with many bad outcomes. Yes, in my opinion if you abuse drugs, you will be medically effected and you can do bad things to other people. So, why would I support the abuse of drugs.Dec 3 2013: Let's get to the bottom line... Some people in some places have voted to make it illegal. Should have they done so? Some say yes and some say no.
Are there societal costs? Could be, but how do you measure those costs? Can one estimate some recovery from taxing legal marijuana? They did that to cigarettes and liquor and that created black market industries and further illegal activities...
Is it safe to use? It's an intoxicant when used to excess and stays active in the body for up to 30 days. As is alcohol an intoxicant if used to excess. Nicotine can give a high to heavy smokers. So, can you say that this intoxicant is better then that intoxicant... it's like asking firing squad or hanging....
So, if you want to use it, use it. if it is illegal where you are at and you get caught... man up and don't whine about there is nothing wrong and it's not as bad as.... . Take your punishment and be done with it.
Dec 3 2013: yes, people of north corea should man up, and take the capital punishment for watching porn or south corean television.
Dec 3 2013: So, porn is intoxicating... never thought about that... or are you saying the North Korea holds capital punishment for watching South Korean TV.
Hey, I am not defending laws people make, whether democratically or dictatorially.
What I am saying that intoxicants are or can be harmful and that is why they are referred to as intoxicants. If you were to drink two liters of alcohol a day or smoke 6 packs of cigarettes or smoke a dozen tokes, I would say that you are intoxicating yourself and that is not good for you... in my opinion
Dec 4 2013: you just did. you said: obey to law, or go to jail, get separated from your family, fired from your workplace, and overall screwed. you just said that it is OK.
i don't exactly care about your opinion on the effects of drugs. it is a very well studied topic, i have better sources. i'm focusing on your suggested policies and moral arguments. and in this case, your reasoning went as "if you disagree, you can go to jail".Dec 4 2013: I agree with Krisztián on everything here.Dec 6 2013: And Porn is intoxicating (we think).
Watch the great porn experiment! http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxGlasgow-Gary-Wilson-The-GreDec 5 2013: Jimmy, you agree with Kris on everything.
Don't blend my acceptance of legalities with my position on the effects of drugs.
I don't make the laws. I said to obey the laws or you can ..... and overall get screwed. I really didn't mean to say it was OK so much as to say it is what it is. Not my laws, have no responsibility for them. They are what they are.
You don't have to care about my opinion on the effects of drugs. I have never seen any benefit in the abuse of drugs only great hardships and other bad things. So that makes me hold a negative opinion. Notice, I have said abuse... not use. Maybe that is where you missed my point.... two little letters a and b....
Dec 5 2013: it ever happened that you disagreed with a law?Dec 6 2013: I do not agree with Krisztián on everything, we've had different opinions on stuff before. But most of the time I find his arguments to be well grounded and thought through...
Tell me Mike, do you consider yourself of being able to take the hypothetical seriously?Dec 7 2013: I have been reading Krisztian comments for many months and I find his logic and judgment impeccable, I would love to have him in my corner on any intellectual discussion. He is a computer programmer and what that requires is you must be capable of writing an entire book without any errors. Every letter, number and symbol has to be in the proper place at the proper time and must all be in logical sequence. If even one letter is wrong it could be catastrophic for the program. It is very tedious work and a lot of it is done and organize in there head before they write a single line of a ten thousand line program. Not for the faint of heart. I have hired and fired people all my life and what I see in Krisztian I have only seen a couple times before but he is absolutely the best I have every seen, so Jimmy when Mike said you agree with Krisztian you may take that as a compliment.Dec 6 2013: Kris, .... Obey the law?
I have thought that there were laws passed that were ill conceived, not thought out and had the potential for causing extreme unintended consequences.... Recently, here in the states, such a law was passed that was proposed to provide health care to people who could not afford to get health care. I had thought that there would be public clinics like I have seen in Europe.
But is wasn't. It was convoluted health insurance law, that canceled some insurance policies, created others, and taxed people who do not purchase health insurance. It hasn't even come into full effect and already is causing hardships to millions of people trying to find new health insurance for the canceled policies. Dumb law....
But it is the law.
Dec 6 2013: i believe laws are just temporary like wind. morals are the foundation for everything. like in your analysis of the healthcare "reform". that law is wrong, misguided or even ill-tempered.
violation of morals is wrong, whether it is prescribed by law or not. therefore putting someone in jail for smoking weed is immoral, either wrong or plain evil. and accepting it is not manly. accepting violence is either masochistic or subdominant. the latter in most cases, i suppose.Dec 6 2013: Jimmy,
Many years ago, I may have thought that porn could be intoxicating... but at my age it is but a distant memory of what might have been or could have been....
Kris does make good arguments for whom I presume is a relatively young man...
But, why would I take the hypothetical seriously? I sort of pride myself as a pragmatist...
almost to the point of vanity... and you ask me to seriously consider a figment of some imagination? Don't think so...
Dec 6 2013: I'm guessing you won't watch the Talk by James Flynn then... My links rarely help since you just see them as gibberish, but I'll post one more. And James Flynn is a man in your own age group, maybe that will make you more compelled to listen.
http://www.ted.com/talks/james_flynn_why_our_iq_levels_are_higher_than_our_grandparents.htmlDec 7 2013: Sorry, Jimmy...
i don't usually watch TED talks, because there is no give and take. If Mr. Flynn was into this conversation, we could have a discussion, back and forth.
If I watch a Talk, (and I do watch some for the pure listening enjoyment of them) and I have questions, there isn't much in the way of feedback. I find myself talking back to the screen saying... "Yeah, but...."Dec 3 2013: If you have some facts, I would read them.
I'm not telling what I know, but what I suppose. If they legalize it, would it be a age limit to smoke some ? Like alcohol ? As I am young, I can say that my generation don't really know his limits. I think that it is why alcohol is forbidden for people under a certain age limit. We don't know what it does to our organism.
Everyone has his opinions, and I don't approve it.
The experience Dunedin has proven that there is an big impact on the capacity to docuse on things and that it detroys some neurons. I also have seen that it causes cancer. It's not about who smokes, but about what it causes. To me, even if it costs exetreme amounts of money, it can't be legalized, simply because it is dangerous for the health.


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Almost half of residences have individual wells; the remainder haul untreated water from the Community Center. Sixty percent of residents use individual wastewater tanks; the rest have outhouses or pit privies. About 40 percent of homes are completely plumbed. The old landfill was closed and cleaned up. The refuse transfer facility is located near the airport; Copper Basin Sanitation transfers the refuse to Glennallen. Electricity is provided out of Tok by Alaska Power and Telephone.
RUBA Status & Activities This Qtr:
Anchorage RUBA staff has contacted tribal staff to get RUBA documents that address RUBA indicators. A signed Authorization to Request Federal Tax Information was sent to the IRS on June 21, 2013.
RUBA Activities for the Coming Qtr:
RUBA staff is available to provide assistance for any essential or sustainable capacity indicators that are not being met.
Essential Indicators:
20 of 20
Sustainable Indicators:
15 of 21
Total Score:
35 of 41
Essential Indicators
All revenues and expenses for the utility are listed in the utility budget.
The utility has adopted a balanced realistic budget.
Monthly financial reports are prepared and submitted to the policy making board.
The utility is current in paying all water/wastewater electric bills.
The utility has on hand a year's adequate fuel supply or it has a financial plan to purchase an adequate supply.
The utility is receiving revenues (user fees or other sources) sufficient to cover operating expenses.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility is receiving revenues (user fees or other sources sufficient to cover operating expenses and Repair & Replacement (R) costs.
YTD revenues are at a level equal to or above those budgeted.
YTD expenditures are at a level equal to or below those budgeted.
A monthly manager's report is prepared.
Budget amendments are completed and adopted as necessary.
Finances Comments
The Cheesh'na Tribal Council does not have a constructed utility system. The association has funding allocated through the Village Safe Water (VSW) program, but construction is pending RUBA compliance. The tribal council - the tribe's governing body - will serve as the utility board once the project has been completed. There is no utility budget available to assess because the utility has not been built. Financial reports for programs run by the tribe are prepared and submitted to the tribal council at each meeting by the Chief Financial Officer. Tribal staff provided a projected budget for the estimated annual operation and repair costs for their $2.5 million water project scheduled to be commenced and completed this summer. On the March 7, 2012 on-site visit, tribal staff provided copies of the council minutes and other budget documents showing actual year-to-date income and expenses compared to budgeted amounts for all the council's programs for each month, from the beginning of the tribe's fiscal year last October. Minutes from the last three council meetings and copies of the Chief Financial Officer's (CFO) financial reports from those meetings were provided; the written reports and verbal presentations by the CFO were reflected in the meeting minutes. Monthly financial reports for the utility with year-to-date revenues and expenditures cannot be generated until the utility has been constructed and the tribal council, acting as the utility board, begins to bill customers. Once the utility has been built and the project's final costs have been determined, the council will need to discuss and decide on utility rates. The tribe receives lease funds monthly for office space so there is considerable revenue that can be used cover or supplement the utility's operating expenses and repair and replacement costs, if needed. However, RUBA staff recommends the utility set the rates at a level sufficient to cover all utility operating costs. The tribal council is actively planning for the new system and has gone through various discussions and budget variations that will best serve the community. The council is current on paying all the electric bills for the community hall, the tribal council office and health clinic. An Alaska Power and Telephone bill was provided and is current. Fuel is delivered on an as-needed basis by Crowley or Fisher Fuel in Glennallen.
Accounting Systems
Essential Indicators
The utility has adopted a collection policy and actively follows it.
The utility bills customers on a regular basis.
An accounts receivable system is in place which tracks customers and reports past due accounts and amounts.
An accounts payable system is in place.
The payroll system correctly calculates payroll and keeps records.
A cash receipt system is in place that records incoming money and how it was spent.
The utility has a cash disbursement system that records how money was spent.
Sustainable Indicators
A chart of accounts is used that identifies categories in a reasonable, usable manner.
Monthly bank reconciliations have been completed for all utility accounts.
The utility has a purchasing system that requires approval prior to purchase, and the approval process compares proposed purchases to budgeted amounts.
Accounting Systems Comments
The Cheesh'na Tribal Council has not previously operated a utility. Tribal staff provided a draft of their utility policy that includes procedures for dealing with delinquent accounts, disconnection for nonpayment, and notice and hearing requirements for disconnection. Once the utility has been constructed, the tribal council will adopt final policies and procedures for the utility. The tribe uses Macintosh computers. Accounting has been done with Multi-Ledger by Check Mark software since 1990. Multi-Ledger is a full-feature software package with general ledger, accounts receivable, accounts payable, inventory, payroll, and job-costing capabilities. The tribal administrator and chief financial officer both report they are not interested in changing software. The chart of accounts provided includes accounts for tracking cash, accounts receivable, fixed assets, accounts payable, payroll taxes, accrued leave, loans, fund balances, revenue for each source of funds, salary expense, payroll taxes expense, advertising, supplies, contractual equipment, insurance, travel and utilities. Each different activity is assigned its own account number. The chart of accounts appears organized with revenue and expenses having a sub-category by function to allow for data selection. The only invoices issued are for office space rental. Reconciliations are done monthly for bank accounts on the tenth day of each month. The Cheesh'na Tribal Council uses a check request system. RUBA staff was given a copy of the tribe's forty-two page procurement policy. Under that policy, the administrator has authority to authorize purchases up to $5,000. Any purchase over $5,000 requires tribal council approval.
Tax Problems
Essential Indicators
The utility has a system to accurately calculate, track, and report payroll tax liabilities.
The utility is current on filing tax reports.
The utility is current on making tax deposits.
If there are any past due tax liabilities or recorded tax liens, a lien release has been issued or a repayment agreement has been signed and repayments are current.
Tax Problems Comments
The tribe's Chief Financial Officer is responsible for calculating the tax owed, tracking, and making the required tax payments and filing reports. The IRS report dated June 28, 2013 shows that the tribe is compliant with required federal tax deposits and filing and has no record of a lien. A letter from the Department of Labor states the Cheesh'na Tribal Council has paid their unemployment taxes through June 11, 2013. The tribe is not listed in the March April 2013 Lien Watch.
Personnel System
Essential Indicators
The utility has a posted workers compensation insurance policy in effect.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility has adopted and uses a Personnel Policy, which has been reviewed by an attorney, AML or Commerce for topics and language.
The utility has adequate written job descriptions for all positions.
The utility has adopted and follows a written personnel evaluation process that ties the job description to the evaluation.
The utility has an adequate written hiring process.
The utility has personnel folders on every employee that contain at least: I-9, Job Application and Letter of Acceptance.
The utility has a probationary period for new hires that includes orientation, job training/oversight, and evaluations.
The utility provides training opportunities to staff as needed and available.
Personnel System Comments
The tribe has workers compensation insurance through Alaska National Insurance Company from October 1, 2002 through October 1, 2013 with no lapse in coverage; the policy is posted. The tribe has adequate written job descriptions for all positions and an adequate written hiring process. Tribal staff provided a thirty-seven page personnel policy that described the hiring process. The Cheesh'na Tribal Council exercises Indian Preference under US PL 93-638, Section 7(b) which gives preference for training and employment to members of the tribe before considering any other candidate. Employees receive insurance benefits, accrue annual leave, and are entitled to 12 paid holidays each year. Sick leave is accrued at a rate of eight hours each month for full-time employees. Sick leave for part-time employees is pro-rated. A performance review will be done six months after start of employment. Thereafter, employee performance reviews are conducted annually. Training opportunities for all employees are provided regularly. Tribal staff provided a copy of the I-9, job application and letter of acceptance for one employee as an example of documents kept in their personnel files. The tribe has personnel folders on every employee that contain an application, I-9, copies of personal identification, W-4 form, payroll authorization, training certifications and other pertinent information.
Organizational Management
Essential Indicators
The entity that owns the utility is known; the entity that will operate the utility is set.
The policy making body is active in policy making of the utility.
The policy making body enforces utility policy.
The utility has an adequately trained manager.
The utility has an adequately trained bookkeeper.
The utility has an adequately trained operator or operators.
The utility has adopted the necessary ordinances (or rules and regulations) necessary to give it the authority to operate.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility has adopted an organizational chart that reflects the current structure.
The policy making body meets as required.
The utility complies with the open meeting act for all meetings.
Organizational Management Comments
The Cheesh'na Tribal Council is the only form of local government within the community. The tribal council meets quarterly as required by the tribal constitution and more often as the need arises. On the average, the tribal council meets ten times a year. Council meetings are advertised and the public is welcome to attend. Provisions are included on every agenda for hearing public comments. The tribal administrator is responsible for managing all day-to-day operations of the council. A part-time bookkeeper has been employed since 2001. The Cheesh'na Tribal Council has not adopted a utility ordinance but has adopted and enforces other policies such as personnel and follows the requirements of their tribal constitution. An organization chart was provided showing four full-time employees and three part-time employees under the current organizational structure.
Operation of Utility
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The utility operator(s) are actively working towards necessary certification.
The utility has a preventative maintenance plan developed for the existing sanitation facilities.
Sustainable Indicators
The manager receives a monthly O&M report from the utility operator and routinely "spot checks" the facilities to see that the maintenance items are being completed.
The utility has a safety manual and holds safety meetings.
Utility facilities have not suffered any major problems/outages due to management issues that are unresolved.
The utility is operating at the level of service that was proposed.
The operator provides status reports to the manager on a routine basis.
The utility has completed and distributed its "Consumer Confidence Report".
The utility is not on the "Significant Non-Complier" (SNC) list.
The utility maintains an inventory control list.
The utility maintains a critical spare parts list.
Operation of Utility Comments
In November 2011, three individuals in Chistochina received Small Water Systems Provisional Level 1 training; two passed the exams and are provisionally certified for water treatment and distribution. The backup operator was awarded 2.4 CEUs for attending the Intermediate Water Distribution and Wastewater Collections Workshop February 19-21, 2013. Since there is no utility in place, no preventative maintenance plan has been adopted. Once the utility has been built, inventory control and critical spare parts lists should be developed. There is a safety manual (that contains the manufacturer's operation and maintenance manuals) for the existing system. The utility needs to hold regular safety meetings. The operator should be providing status reports to the manager on a routine basis. The water system is not on the April 2013 SNC list.
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This Maserati Bora concept is gorgeous
Sadly it's not real. But we wish this rendered mid-engined Maser was
Posted: 04 Nov 2013
This is not a real car. In fact, it's not even a picture of an upcoming real car that will become real. It's a flight of fancy from one of TopGear.com's favourite renderisers: a modern take on the Bora, Maserati's mid-engined icon of the Seventies.
Alex Imnadze - the man who gave us the Alfa 6C concept a while back - penned this lovely new Maser, imagining a mid-engined GT car that takes the spirit of the Bora and infuses it with some thoroughly modern design overtones.
Yes, it's got Bora written all over it, but that's no bad thing, considering the original was a milestone in Maserati's history. Squint and there are shades of the MC12 hypercar (that's the one that cribbed from the Ferrari Enzo) too, itself the last production mid-engined Maserati. Anyone else getting notes of the Jaguar C-X75 in there, and hints of Veyron along the flanks?
Whatever the influences, it's very tasty. And also very NOT REAL. But considering Alex knocked this out during his spare time in just two weeks - ahead of an internship at legendary design house Bertone working on exterior car design (more on Bertone here) - we can't blame him for that.
Now, the original Bora used a 4.7-litre and 4.9-litre V8 mated to a five-speed manual gearbox, but seeing as it's not 1971 anymore, imagine this with the 6.3-litre, 730bhp V12 from the F12, a racing dual-clutch gearbox, some righteous exhaust noise and trick suspension (OK, so essentially the entire drivetrain from the F12), and we reckon Maser's onto a winner. Or does this require a LaFerrari-style hyper-hybrid set-up?
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May trip to Chocolate Bayou, June trips to South Llano and Skimmer saltwater trip
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It was an absolutely great time! I met some wonderful people who love fly fishing like I do. I am a newbie but felt at home! I look forward to attending this Thursday. Thank you Puck for your advice and I look forward to talking to you about tying muddlers!


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Non-Traditional Student Week
Each year MVCC celebrates our non-traditional students by participating in the National Non-Traditional Student Week. Held the first full week of November, this week aims to recognize the non-traditional (non-traditional is defined as anyone over the age of 25, single parents, veterans, or those who work full-time) student population.
During this time, MVCC hosts a variety of activities on both campuses exclusively for non-traditional students. In previous years we have honored our students with free coffee and halfmoons, provided information about other services on and off campus, and created workshops to assist them in their studies. This week typically culminates in a free dinner where adults and their families can dine together and be honored for their accomplishments.
Celebration Dinner - Utica Campus
Nov 7, 2014, 5:30 PM
Location: ACC Commons
Celebrate the week with dinner for you and a guest. We will be awarding our annual Spirit of Service award and announce the winners of the essay conest.
TICKETS AVAILABLE THROUGH OCT 31st or UNTIL SOLD OUT
UTICA CAMPUS: Adult Learner Services Office, PH 104b
ROME CAMPUS: Student Activities Office, Plumley Complex
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Subject: What does earning an education from MVCC mean to you as an adult learner?
Guidelines: All responses should be typed and 12 point, Times New Roman or Arial font. Length should be approximately 750 to 1,000 words.
Submissions: All submissions should be made via e-mail as an attachment to email@example.com
Deadline: Friday, October 31st, 2014
Spirit of Service Award 2014
The Adult Learner Services Office would like to honor a professor at MVCC who has made an impact on adult students. The Spirit of Service Award will be given out to a faculty member as a part of Non-Traditional Student Week where we celebrate our adult learners on campus. If you are interested in nominating a faculty member, it doesn't matter whether they teach full or part time.
Deadline: The deadline to nominate an instructor has already passed. Thank you to those who took the time to submit a nomination!
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Community Sanitation Overview:
The population of the City of Port Alexander fluctuates depending on the season. It is estimated that the average population is approximately 56 people. The City of Port Alexander operates and manages the community water utility (Public Water System Number: 130156). Certified by Regulatory Commission of Alaska (RCA), Certificate Number 6066. The city's water utility has 53 active hookups. There are some residents who do not wish to pay for or receive water through the city's water utility. The utility is currently expecting to have approximately 45 active hook-ups after disconnecting these residents. Wastewater services are not provided by the city. Each individual home provides their own wastewater system of varying sorts, including septic tanks, drainage fields, and out-falls.
RUBA Status & Activities This Qtr:
Juneau RUBA staff had no contact with City of Port Alexander staff over this quarter, as much of the city is away commercial fishing at this time of year. RUBA staff did receive an adopted FY14 Budget from city staff in May, 2013.
RUBA Activities for the Coming Qtr:
Over the coming quarter, RUBA staff will be working with city staff to improve indicators and to identify other sources of funding for necessary water utility upgrades.
Essential Indicators:
25 of 26
Sustainable Indicators:
22 of 27
Total Score:
47 of 53
Essential Indicators
All revenues and expenses for the utility are listed in the utility budget.
The utility has adopted a balanced realistic budget.
Monthly financial reports are prepared and submitted to the policy making board.
The utility is current in paying all water/wastewater electric bills.
The utility has on hand a year's adequate fuel supply or it has a financial plan to purchase an adequate supply.
The utility is receiving revenues (user fees or other sources) sufficient to cover operating expenses.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility is receiving revenues (user fees or other sources sufficient to cover operating expenses and Repair & Replacement (R) costs.
YTD revenues are at a level equal to or above those budgeted.
YTD expenditures are at a level equal to or below those budgeted.
A monthly manager's report is prepared.
Budget amendments are completed and adopted as necessary.
Finances Comments
The City of Port Alexander adopted a budget for FY13 in June 2012 by non-code ordinance. The city utilized FY12 actuals in establishing this budget and there have been no amendments to date. Projected revenues and expenses reflect a balanced, comprehensive city budget. The budget includes sections such as locally generated revenues, grant revenues, and other outside revenues such as state revenue sharing funds. It includes expenditure sections for capital projects, administration, insurance, renovation and maintenance of city property, and a detailed section regarding city utilities. The city utilities are clearly separated within the city's overall budget, but utility expenses and income are not compared in a separate enterprise budget. Thus it may not be clear to the utility's governing body upon review how exactly the city is balancing the utility's budget. The city projects a revenue ($5,500) far smaller than projected expenses of the water utility ($41,150). The utility is not drawing enough revenue through user-fees to cover operating expenses, such as parts, chemicals, maintenance, labor, training, and testing. However, the city has successfully subsidized the utility with income from state revenue sharing programs. The utility has an informal 10-year plan for water subsidies and changes in the event of a reduction or loss of community revenue sharing program funding, though they have not formalized this plan. The utility charges a flat rate to all customers (both commercial and residential) of $100 per year. The utility has been charging this rate since 2007; previously the service was free. The budget reflects sufficient projected funding of repair and replacement costs for the utility, and the city describes themselves as always over-budgeting in most areas as a precaution. Indeed, the budget comparison between the previous year's actual and the coming year's projections reflect that the utility estimates slightly more money for repair and maintenance costs than were expended in the previous year. The city reports they budget for utilities based on their 'most expensive year'. The city clerk, who also functions as the utility's clerk, provides monthly profit and loss budget versus actual year-to-date reports for the city council prior to every meeting, which compare actual expenditures and income to budgeted amounts. Utility staff report that a manager's report is provided by the city clerk to the mayor prior to every council meeting verbally and that this is documented in the city council meeting minutes. As of March 11, 2013, water utility expenses equal about 3/4 of the budgeted amount for the year, in line with appropriate expectations for this point in the fiscal year. Water bills go out once per year, and have been collected at this time. Collectiosn for FY13 are only $100 short of the projected amount, which may still be collected within the fiscal year. The utility's power is provided onsite by diesel fuel generators and has no other associated electric utility costs. The community receives fuel on a regular basis by either a commercial provider or the Coast Guard. Individuals throughout the city, including the city and utility, purchase the fuel at point of shipment. The city and utility have not had any fuel shortages. When the commercial provider has been unable to provide a shipment, the Coast Guard has stepped in to provide the service. Shipments are sometimes delayed by weather, which has caused shortages for some individuals in the city. There is no bulk-fuel storage option, nor any local fuel retailers.
Accounting Systems
Essential Indicators
The utility has adopted a collection policy and actively follows it.
The utility bills customers on a regular basis.
An accounts receivable system is in place which tracks customers and reports past due accounts and amounts.
An accounts payable system is in place.
The payroll system correctly calculates payroll and keeps records.
A cash receipt system is in place that records incoming money and how it was spent.
The utility has a cash disbursement system that records how money was spent.
Sustainable Indicators
A chart of accounts is used that identifies categories in a reasonable, usable manner.
Monthly bank reconciliations have been completed for all utility accounts.
The utility has a purchasing system that requires approval prior to purchase, and the approval process compares proposed purchases to budgeted amounts.
Accounting Systems Comments
Chapter 9.02 of the City of Port Alexander's code of ordinances addresses public services and facilities. This involves multiple sections and sub-sections, including information regarding rates, disconnection, billing, and payments. Section 09.02.10 specifies that utility rates will be established in a separate document titled 'Schedule A', to be revised and approved by the Port Alexander City Council on a periodic basis. The current billing rate is a flat rate of $100 per year for both commercial and residential customers. Section 09.02.13(e) defines a schedule of billing, due dates, delinquency notices, disconnection notices, and date of disconnection. The utility bills customers yearly on December 31. As the utility had only been collecting fees since 2007, they have not yet followed their collection policy regarding disconnecting service to delinquent clients. However, city staff reports that they intend to begin putting the policy into effect this fiscal year. There are currently 53 active hookups. It is reported by city staff that eight of these hook-ups do not wish to receive and pay for city utilities. Therefore, these eight will be disconnected shortly. Once disconnections have begun, reflecting the utility's collection policy, this essential indicator will be met. The city clerk, who also functions as the utility clerk, uses QuickBooks to track accounts receivable, accounts payable, payroll, taxes, and cash disbursement. The city provided a QuickBooks-generated chart of accounts, separated into bank accounts, accounts receivable, other current assets, accounts payable, other current liabilities, equity, income, expense, and other income account types. The city utilizes an open invoice system to track accounts receivable and to track past due accounts and amounts, which includes an aging component in order to track delinquent accounts. The city and utility clerk provided a reconciliation summary, detailing balances and transactions, and reconciling the city's QuickBooks file with the bank's record of transactions. The clerk reconciles these accounts at least monthly. The city and utility clerk also provided evidence of a purchase order process, including a specific purchase order form, to be assigned a purchase order number and approved by the mayor. If the mayor is not available, the mayor pro-tem may approve purchase orders. City and utility staff may not purchase without prior approval.
Tax Problems
Essential Indicators
The utility has a system to accurately calculate, track, and report payroll tax liabilities.
The utility is current on filing tax reports.
The utility is current on making tax deposits.
If there are any past due tax liabilities or recorded tax liens, a lien release has been issued or a repayment agreement has been signed and repayments are current.
Tax Problems Comments
The city was granted tax clearance from the State of Alaska on May 30, 2013. The IRS confirmed compliance on June 28, 2013. There are no liens against the city at present. The utility calculates its tax payments through the QuickBooks program.
Personnel System
Essential Indicators
The utility has a posted workers compensation insurance policy in effect.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility has adopted and uses a Personnel Policy, which has been reviewed by an attorney, AML or Commerce for topics and language.
The utility has adequate written job descriptions for all positions.
The utility has adopted and follows a written personnel evaluation process that ties the job description to the evaluation.
The utility has an adequate written hiring process.
The utility has personnel folders on every employee that contain at least: I-9, Job Application and Letter of Acceptance.
The utility has a probationary period for new hires that includes orientation, job training/oversight, and evaluations.
The utility provides training opportunities to staff as needed and available.
Personnel System Comments
A copy of the utility's Employers' Notice of Insurance form was observed to be posted in multiple locations in the city, including in the city office, the utility/fire shed, the entry to Bear Hall (functionally the city hall), and the water treatment plant. The city and utility receive their insurance from Alaska Municipal League Joint Insurance Association, Inc. (AMLJIA). The insurance covers job-connected injuries, illnesses or death as provided by the Alaska Workers' Compensation Act, and was current and compliant as of March 1, 2013. AMLJIA also provides insurance coverage for risk property, earthquake, employers' liability, flood, and general liability, and a certificate of coverage is posted in public locations in Port Alexander. Title 7 of the city's code of ordinances outlines the utility's personnel policy. The policy addresses hiring, conditions of employment, travel and pay allowances, suspension, demotion, dismissal, maternity/paternity leave, leaves of absence, and grievances. The city's lawyer maintains a copy of the personnel policy, and any changes made are submitted to the city's lawyer for approval. The utility does not currently have written job descriptions for each position, though there is an organizational chart including all employees. The city's organizational chart reflects supervisory authority, chain of command, and management. The city has a written personnel evaluation process, though this is not tied to the job description, and the city is not currently following the evaluation process for all employees. Each employee has a personnel file including an I-9, a job application, and a W4. However, the city is not consistently using or filing a letter of acceptance for each employee. As evidence of hiring and understanding of the terms of employment, the mayor signs the job application and places this in the employee's personnel file. While the utility does have a probationary period and job training, these tools are not laid out specifically for the employee in a job description or letter of acceptance, thus risking inconsistency. Each department does have a manual which describes the responsibilities of the position. The utility provides training opportunities for staff, with the approval of the city council. The city clerk was recently approved to attend a RUBA Clerk's Management for Rural Utilities training in Juneau, and there is money allocated in the budget for the water operator to complete Continuing Educational Units, required to maintain certification.
Organizational Management
Essential Indicators
The entity that owns the utility is known; the entity that will operate the utility is set.
The policy making body is active in policy making of the utility.
The policy making body enforces utility policy.
The utility has an adequately trained manager.
The utility has an adequately trained bookkeeper.
The utility has an adequately trained operator or operators.
The utility has adopted the necessary ordinances (or rules and regulations) necessary to give it the authority to operate.
Sustainable Indicators
The utility has adopted an organizational chart that reflects the current structure.
The policy making body meets as required.
The utility complies with the open meeting act for all meetings.
Organizational Management Comments
The Port Alexander code of ordinances addresses entity and ownership as well as authority to operate in chapter 09.02. Ownership and operation of the utility is designated to the City of Port Alexander, and management is designated to the governing body, which is the city council. Management of the utility is designated to the mayor. Management related issues are addressed by the mayor and policy changes are addressed in city council meetings. This chain of command is also established in the city's organizational chart, which establishes the mayor as manager of the utility, and supervisor of both the water operator and backup operator. The water operator provides weekly verbal reports to the mayor. The utility manager has hands-on experience working with the city's water utility. The manager has served on-and-off in the capacity of mayor and utility manager for the past 20 years. There is additionally one council member who also has hands-on experience working with the city's water utility. These two individuals can and have served as back-up for the water operator when needed. The primary water operator is certified at Water Treatment Level 1, expiring December 31, 2013. The operator is not currently meeting the CEU requirements, but is working on accessing online CEU options to meet this requirement. The utility previously had a back-up water operator who was certified for Small Water Systems, Treated and up to date on CEU requirements. However, this individual has since left the community. The utility is currently in the process of hiring a replacement. The utility's bookkeeper is also the city and utility's clerk. This individual has experience and training in bookkeeping and clerk responsibilities, including five years of experience in the position. The bookkeeper's experience and knowledge of the system are reflected in the organized and thorough manner in which the utility's QuickBooks files and related documents are kept up to date and accurate. Budgeting for the water utility is based on the utility's most expensive year, in order to ensure that the utility will have sufficient funding to remain in operation. The city council meets regularly as per the Port Alexander code of ordinances Section 02.03.02. This stipulates that the council meet on the first Monday of every month at 7:00pm June through August, and 2:00pm September through May; at the city building (Bear Hall). The city also follows the Open Meeting Act for all meetings, as specified in their ordinances Section 02.02.04, wherein reasonable public notice is to be given for all meetings, including time and place of the meeting. There is no specification as to number of notices to be posted or location of notices, though the clerk reports posting in at least 3 public locations.
Operation of Utility
Essential Indicators
The utility operator(s) are actively working towards necessary certification.
The utility has a preventative maintenance plan developed for the existing sanitation facilities.
Sustainable Indicators
The manager receives a monthly O&M report from the utility operator and routinely "spot checks" the facilities to see that the maintenance items are being completed.
The utility has a safety manual and holds safety meetings.
Utility facilities have not suffered any major problems/outages due to management issues that are unresolved.
The utility is operating at the level of service that was proposed.
The operator provides status reports to the manager on a routine basis.
The utility has completed and distributed its "Consumer Confidence Report".
The utility is not on the "Significant Non-Complier" (SNC) list.
The utility maintains an inventory control list.
The utility maintains a critical spare parts list.
Operation of Utility Comments
The primary water operator is Water Treatment Level 1 certified and is currently working on meeting the CEU requirements. The utility is in the process of hiring a new backup operator, and intends to support this individual to obtain water operator certification. The utility's manager, as well as another city council member, are both experienced and knowledgeable with regard to the water utility operations, and can serve as backup in the interim. These individuals are not currently certified water operators. The primary water operator provides weekly verbal reports to the utility manager. The manager does daily spot checks of the water facilities on a regular basis, including looking over paperwork and the supply needs of all utility operations, and assessing for safety. The utility has a maintenance manual, which includes a list of necessary checks, job description, a weekly checklist, a monthly checklist, and a seasonal checklist. During spot checks and verbal reports, the manager and water operator are undertaking an informal safety meeting and considering safety issues. However, there is currently no formal process therein. There is an inventory control list, but no specific critical spare parts list. Again, this process is being undertaken informally between the water operator and the manager. Formalizing these procedures has been recommended. The water operator and the utility clerk complete and distribute the Consumer Confidence Report as required. The Port Alexander water utility was taken off of the Significant Non-Complier list as of January, 2013.
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I know they aren't using EDRAM but ESRAM is very similar in function like you said it just saves power and is lower latency at the cost of being more complex circuitry hence needing more space on the die.
You can't be serious trying to compare two completely different architectures it's almost as laughable as your way of working out TFLOPs, the only reason we can compare xO to PS4 is because they use the exact same series of GPU just one with less CUs and is the exact same reason why we can't compare PS3 to 360. There isn't a lot more going on, you just want there to be.
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For most people, their buying decision is based on exclusives like Halo, Uncharted, Forza, Gran Turismo, and more. Developers have to create a consistent experience on multiple platforms otherwise they'll be perceived as favouring one over the other. Something like that could push away potential customers that don't own a console that plays the better-performing version.
Well then buy Box B, isn't that what console wars are partly about?
Developers will still sell the same amount of games, but just more on one box, than the other.
What are you talking about? What TheLegendOfMart has said is true. Ease of development is a factor but performance is an even bigger factor. A competent development team wouldn't make version A of their game run well on console A but not on console B. They'd try to make it run well on console B so both consoles have a consistent experience. This has been true for the Call of Duty games as well as others like Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim and Mass Effect 3. Also, it doesn't apply to just consoles. In this generation, PC gaming has suffered the most when it came to multi-platform titles. A gaming PC is likely to be more powerful than the Xbox 360 and PS3; however, often times developers make games that have low-res textures, a 30 FPS limit, and a lack of PC-specific features (e.g. quick saving/loading).
once again talking out the rare huh mart? anyway its a common misconception that multi-platforms are coded for the lowest then ported up. most times they're coded for the easiest platform then ported over to others, other than that they're ported down, not up. I mean, you can look at it this way: it's easier to take details out of a picture than to add in.


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