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Jason Denning
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Fotoman Cameras
December 13, 2011, 12:25:00 PM »
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with Fotoman cameras, but I thought I would post a little about them. I don't work for them, I just think they are great and very good value and they recently brought out 2 new cameras for use with digital backs and large format lenses, one of which is 612. I want them to stay in business for my future photography!
They are only based in china but I have ordered from them and had no problems. Below is an email I received today from them and I have attached some images taken from a pdf file of their products, sorry the pdf wouldn't upload on here.
Firstly, we would like to wish you and your family Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Secondly, we would like to inform you that we are still in business as people keep asking this question lately. And weve spent most of the last three years developing our latest products Fotoman Dmax, FotomanFD66 & Fotoman45sps.We are proud to say that Dmax is well integrated with high-performance advanced functions & a practical system , very flexible , which supports lenses ranging from 38XL to 300mm along with both digital and film backs.
To better express our sincere gratitude for the support from our dear Fotoman users, all of our latest products come with holiday deals. Please find our latest products on the attachment.
If you have any question or enquiry, please don't hesitate to contact me anytime, and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
(Ms.) Weiwei YU
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Tel:+86 755-88834733
Fax:+86 755-29558764
Add:Rm.108,Shekou Beike Chuangye Building,No.1077 Nanhai Avenue,Nanshan District,Shenzhen,CHINA Zip code:518067
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December 13, 2011, 02:26:38 PM »
It is nice to know you folks are still around. (Brian, look what I found!)
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December 13, 2011, 05:04:58 PM »
Interesting... only a few months back, I bought an auxiliary rangefinder from what was remaining stock and it appeared they were done. Did the original founders sell out to someone?
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December 13, 2011, 08:43:47 PM »
I believe the USA company went belly up, but the Chinese Company is still out there, they have discontinued some products, and released some new cameras, like the ones shown which take DB's and what not. you can find out more about them from
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December 14, 2011, 04:46:12 AM »
I'm not sure, thy don't seem to list the aux rangefinder as a product now so maybe they just decided to stop making that. Sadly they also don't make the shift adapter for my 617 I was hoping to buy.
My fotoman 617 is a great camera, and their new DMax looks like a great camera for it's price.
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December 14, 2011, 09:58:18 AM »
Hmm. Not quite convinced.
I'm the perfect target market here, and I am not sold. I own an original 612 by fotoman and think it's a wonderful camera, zero problems whatsoever. In addition, I am currently in the market for a tech cam. On top of it being a possibly good deal (I see two different prices on pdf and website), I could even use my existing 58xl lens cone from my 612. Bargain (ish).
But - The information is lacking. They just took Paul Drouik's (sp?) site and slapped a minimum of information in there. How are the backs interchangeable, what cones are available, are the movements friction or geared, will the camera retain any value, what if I have problems, what is the machining like, can I shim a back, etc etc.
The cost of a digital back is so high (although more reasonable these days), that why would one buy this instead of a Cambo?
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December 14, 2011, 01:52:37 PM »
Their website is terrible and hasn't been properly updated, but if you email them they may be able to give you more info, english isn't there first language. I imagine the more expensive price includes a cone and back adapter.
On the pdf they sent me it lists all the compatible lenses and most of the details you need to know which is on the picture above.
It seems from the pictures that the shift is not geared but i could be wrong.
Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 01:58:38 PM by Jason Denning
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December 14, 2011, 02:39:34 PM »
I actually just did send for more information. If the quality is as high as it was previously, it's too bad they don't spend a little more money inspiring confidence from their website. Its gone from what seemed to be high quality Chinese made product with q/a oversight and a usa dealer network to yet another sketchy business.
Regardless, I actually think the fd66 is a compelling camera. As this type of plate camera is very simple, i'd have less worries than with something more complex like the Dmax. If it is precise enough (and knowing their helicals, those would be fine), I can't see how anything could go wrong with it. An aptus 22 kit with 24xl and 58xl lenses, while no Alpa tc, would be very affordable for a compact medium format travel cam.
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December 14, 2011, 07:47:20 PM »
I believe I am known here on Lu-La for saying honest and with integrity...
Have you guys payed a visit to Fotoman in Shenzhen, China??? I have, including attempting to develop new product with Charley who owns and runs it. I also attended his mediocre tea session "invitation for press" for the launch of his Dmax. My recommendation is to forget them for anything relating to digital --- PERIOD. I will explain why.
Some background; Fotoman was originally run out of Hong Kong by an American and Canadian in team with Charley on China side (Charley sold the products in China, the others internationally). Apparent, Charley had come up with a 617 camera that the American and Canadian "developed further" and with "CNC" machining. Sure, those where more well built than other China brands, weighed a ton. However the "CNC" machining part was somewhat overrated in my opinion. I bought my 617 from old stock directly from Charley in Shenzhen late 2009 but have since sold it. The above explains why Fotomancamera.com has "ceased" fabrication and Charley try to continue his business in China, but... of course also in China people nowadays use digital, and more and more professionals and high end amateurs use digital backs. All that is left for Charley is thus a shrinking market in China of old film users... unless he would make a very high quality digital product for digital back, which seems he does not understand how to make. Apparent Fotoman China also have left over bills to a main supplier who prior had supported them... which I read makes some problems for Charley...
At time I first visited Charley, he showed me a prototype for Dmax and saying it was for digital as well as film. He showed me the digital back he developed it with, an old 6MP back!!!! Go figure about tolerances... and what tolerances you need for a 6MP back compared to film, and tolerances necessary for latest 80MP backs or even around 20~30MP backs compared to a 6MP back... There is a major difference. Add to that all the sliding planes on Dmax and his backplate interface, and you have a camera that absolute not is reliable for any digital tolerances. Now he shows on website he sells the smaller "Dwide" with a P20+ back. My guess is that is the prototype since he had agreed to me to not use the Dwide name!!! The idea for such a camera for digital was mine, however Charley would not listen to design for digital and digital tolerances, nor for a quality small camera that were well suited for the digital back market. Thus he went with his own design, which places very high doubts on tolerances and if it will be reliable for digital. Perhaps it can be shimmed after you receive it, but it also depends on the accuracy or lack of such for his back plate interface, and the accuracy or lack of for his COPY of dedicated Mamiya 645 mount.
In short: I have no confidence in that his cameras are acceptable for tolerances required for digital, which are to at least 0.02mm as compared to film 0.2mm. While Charley may now understand that CNC machining to 0.01mm tolerances are required, I can witness that he has absolute no comprehension how tolerances of each such part should be assembled and designed in order to MINIMIZE the tolerances to within 0.02mm for digital, nor of the adjustments or design that is required for a digital back. His business is very small and he does not have his own factory but outsource from even people that have never made any cameras. Helical focuses? Last I heard he had major problems with a new supplier... Old stock was different. His cameras for film? I would suggest to buy a used Linhof.
Above in frank and honest, and I will decline to provide further info. At current I use latest 80MP Leaf AFi-II 12 on Hy6 but am saving $$ for Alpa STC. Alpa knows tolerance and their STC is the smartest design out there.
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December 14, 2011, 09:03:37 PM »
I appreciate the information and the time you took to write it up Anders.
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December 14, 2011, 09:28:43 PM »
The information regarding Fotoman USA versus China is extremely helpful - I've attempted to follow the saga on some of the boards and by comparison of the websites, though I haven't been able to really get an assessment of the current state of affairs until now.
I've been considering purchasing the 45ps, though this thread - and the lack of any concrete reviews of the same - have certainly scared me away. I suppose I will continue looking for a Cambo Wide. It's a shame, as the cameras
great. Unfortunately there is quite a bit more to a great camera than looks alone.
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December 14, 2011, 10:33:22 PM »
Quote from: Joelio on December 14, 2011, 09:28:43 PM
The information regarding Fotoman USA versus China is extremely helpful - I've attempted to follow the saga on some of the boards and by comparison of the websites, though I haven't been able to really get an assessment of the current state of affairs until now.
I've been considering purchasing the 45ps, though this thread - and the lack of any concrete reviews of the same - have certainly scared me away. I suppose I will continue looking for a Cambo Wide. It's a shame, as the cameras
great. Unfortunately there is quite a bit more to a great camera than looks alone.
Their older product was great, the only reason I even dropped into this conversation was my good experience with the previous Fotoman USA and their product. FWIW, fotoman.cc got back to me quickly with a quote. I'm not going to be the guniea pig though.
Fotoman FD66 is available and you can order from us now.
The prices are as follow:
Fotoman FD66: US$800
Optical Viewfinder: US $190
Ground Glass Viewfinder: US $160
66-58 mask: US $20
Cone Assembly for Schneider Apo-digital 24/f5.6XL lens: US $200
Cone Assembly for Schneider Super Augulon 58/f5.6XL lens: US $390
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December 15, 2011, 04:56:22 AM »
Maybe Michael could ask for a review copy? It would certainly be an interesting read.
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December 15, 2011, 07:18:13 AM »
Quote from: amsp on December 15, 2011, 04:56:22 AM
Maybe Michael could ask for a review copy? It would certainly be an interesting read.
Or we could elect an ambassador from the board to head off to China and do an investigation into the state of affairs! Your idea is much more feasible, though if anyone wants to elect me I only travel first class.
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December 15, 2011, 07:25:43 AM »
Candidate too, and am even ready to travel in Eco.
Quote from: Joelio on December 15, 2011, 07:18:13 AM
... though if anyone wants to elect me I only travel first class.
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December 16, 2011, 09:22:11 PM »
I have a Fotoman 45PS that I bought from Paul, the US/Hong Kong based developer of the original Fotoman. It is a very well made, beautifully machined camera. I also have the adapter to allow it to be used with a BetterLight digital back.
Paul was looking for 10 people to subscribe to the DMax in order to have it built, just before it closed.
He may be willing to comment on how well the newer Chinese version corresponds to his design, and what he thinks of the execution and tolerances.
He has answered questions at his fotomancamera.com site as recently as 12/14/11, 2 days ago.
Alternately, we could all chip in $20 and buy a camera as a group, to be evaluated by one of the members, to see what we've got?
The first time I saw a Fotoman I knew I had to buy one, they were so elegant and well designed. Perhaps with the uptick in the economy, Paul would be able to bring back the previous US version? Ah well, wishful thinking I suppose ...
Last Edit: December 16, 2011, 09:33:29 PM by mmurph
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December 16, 2011, 11:07:58 PM »
I have a Fotoman 45PS too. Superb camera. I bought it about 5 years ago and got excellent support from Paul. I only ever used it with film (Polaroid, and Kodak Portra Readyloads), with a 90mm Schneider lens. I've since moved to Nikon digital - and stitching with PTGui for large-format-film-type-projects. But I wish Fotoman every success.
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January 19, 2012, 10:13:15 AM »
I am somewhat disturbed by Anders comments. On one hand, if he's completely correct, he has done a good deed for any potential Fotoman buyer. On the other hand, the comments also read like someone who thought they had a business deal and then found out that they didn't (for whatever reason) and now has sour grapes.
The fact that his comments are one sided and unsubstantiated, and that he refuses further coment lead me to question the circumstances. The fact that the website looks like a piece of crap is nothing new for a Chinese site and shouldn't be taken out of context. I don't know why people have even bothered to comment about that because it's meaningless.
As a potential DMax buyer I would like to hear from someone who has a more impartial experience in dealing with the (new) Chinese Fotoman operation. Anyone out there?
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January 19, 2012, 11:35:50 AM »
I thought Anders feedback was really quite useful.
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January 19, 2012, 11:59:36 AM »
Almost two years ago I bought a Fotoman 612. I thought the workmanship was first class and I got some decent images with it. But there was some sort of problem as it began ripping film apart, even using both winders together. I traded it for a Fotoman 69 and a Horseman back. Even after a trip back to the importer for lens adjustment, which they stated was spot on, it was impossible to focus accurately. I probably should have bought the special ground glass for it, but gave up and sold it. On the website they kept saying they would have a digital back adapter soon. Then they started looking for some development money. Then they folded. IMO, another business with wonderful potential and lousy support (which may not have been the importer's fault).
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The bill passed by the Kansas House of Representatives today has a bland title—"An act concerning religious freedoms with respect to marriage." But the language cannot conceal the vicious discrimination it's intended to protect. The bill would allow not only private businesses but, quite remarkably, state officials to withhold services from gays and lesbians as long as it is motivated by a "sincerely held religious beliefs of the individual or religious entity regarding sex or gender." This reprehensible proposed law would render gays and lesbians second-class citizens in Kansas and deprives them of rights most people have long taken for granted.
The law allows private business to deny gays and lesbians "services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges" based on their sexual orientation. By granting immunity to anyone who denies services to gays and lesbians based on an asserted religious belief, it would prevent gays and lesbians from suing even based on common-law rights that require public accommodations to accept all comers on equal terms. The law is not even limited to same-sex couples, but permits the denial of services to anyone "related to, or related to the celebration of, any marriage, domestic partnership, civil union or similar arrangement." Rather than extending civil-rights protections to gays and lesbians, the Kansas law would move the state in the opposite direction, diminishing the civil rights of gays and lesbians (and, possibly, straight people with gay and lesbian friends as well).
But even worse are the provisions that allow state employees to withhold services from gays and lesbians. "The sovereign," as John Paul Stevens observed, "must govern impartially." This bill is a direct shot at this basic principle of democratic governance. It is bad enough to permit private businesses to discriminate; to allow public officials to discriminate is even worse. As the Daily Beast's Jamelle Bouie puts it, "[a]mbulances can refuse to come to the home of a gay couple, park managers can deny them entry, state hospitals can turn them away, and public welfare agencies can decline to work with them." Allowing state officials to deny services to same-sex couples is about as stark a designation of second-class citizenship as one can imagine short of bringing back George Wallace to deny gays and lesbians access to the University of Kansas.
Admittedly, to mitigate the worst effects of this discrimination, the law maintains that state or secular employers "shall either promptly provide another employee to provide such service, or shall otherwise ensure that the requested service is provided, if it can be done without undue hardship to the employer." Particularly given the "undue hardship" loophole, however, this can't be very reassuring. In rural areas where businesses or state agencies might be staffed by small numbers of people, gays and lesbians may be unable to find anyone who doesn't claim a statutory right to discriminate. At best, the law represents a substantial burden on gays and lesbians, and in some cases will unquestionably result in an outright denial of services.
The pretext for this rollback of civil rights is the protection of religious freedom. But the Kansas law makes clear how hollow and dangerous such arguments are. It's worth noting here that we're talking about secular businesses and state officials. Acting as individuals, people are free for religious (or any other reason) not to associate with same-sex couples or support same-sex marriage. But—whether motivated by religious belief or not—homophobic beliefs cannot trump the rights of people to use public accommodations on equal terms. These arguments were bad when they were used to oppose civil-rights legislation to protect African-Americans and women, and they're no better in this context. For state officials to be permitted to deny services to citizens based on private religious beliefs is simply unconscionable.
In its purpose, the Kansas statute is reminiscent of the Colorado constitutional amendment that prevented any state entity from extending civil-rights protections to gays and lesbians. In holding the statute unconstitutional, Justice Anthony Kennedy argued that the law "seems inexplicable by anything but animus toward the class that it affects." Despite the fig leaf of religious freedom, the same thing is true of the Kansas law. The First Amendment, after all, already protects religious believers from discriminatory acts targeted at religious belief. To allegedly expand religious freedom solely for the purpose of permitting discrimination against a particular class of individuals is a perversion of this fundamental principle. The Kansas law makes the need for federal legislation protecting the the civil rights of gays and lesbians clear, and it also underscores that it's well past time for the Supreme Court to treat statutes discriminating against gays and lesbians to heightened scrutiny. This kind of law is simply not consistent with the rights granted by the 14th Amendment. Let's hope the Supreme Court will recognize this.
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Fri, 2014-02-14 16:32
This is the civil rights and human rights issue of the 21st century. Gender identity, just as one's ethnicity, has no bearing on one's ability to do their job and must never be used to take away their civil rights. Human beings are just that...............human beings.
Fri, 2014-02-14 17:02
Gender identity? Gender is determined prior to birth. It is not subject to interpretation. You either are or you aren't. Why do we have to take this issue to the courts? This is not a social issue. Let's let the courts spend time on issues that matter most Americans. This is made important by politicians looking for voting base. Homosexuality should be debated with a person and his/her maker. Stop involving all of us. What a waste of time.
Fri, 2014-02-14 17:24
The state has a profound responsibility not to discriminate, so that should be clarified, but it's misleading to say that state employees can deny gays basic services. They cannot. The most they can do is turn the matter over to someone else. If they cannot do that and it is an emergency, then it does seem reasonable that they should be required to provide the service as the sole representative of the state.
The freedom to discriminate is substantially different than legal discrimination.
Fri, 2014-02-14 17:36
The court system was used by the Democratic Party to impose this phony issue on American voters. It is still about as meaningful as when Rock Hudson and Jim Nabors claimed that they were married to each other. Obviously, they were just two homosexuals who were trying to get attention. I have discovered that the easiest way to end this kind of discussion is to say that I do not want to be a homosexual. I have yet to see a discussion group on the internet that will allow me to continue to participate once I have made that statement. I am just telling the truth. I do not want to be a homosexual.
Fri, 2014-02-14 18:12
The billionaire Koch brothers have been installing a legislature populated by nitwits and/or bigots for years. They successfully removed seven long term Republican moderate senators and replaced them with theocrats and demagogues.
This is all in the interest of reducing or completely eliminating income, business and property taxes. They don't care what these wingnuts do, as long as their anti-union, anti-populist, anti-small "d" democratic adversaries are disenfranchised.
While they were passing this legislation, they also were eliminating no-fault divorce.
Sat, 2014-02-15 11:07
Wow the evil Koch brothers gain. Here are some tidbits of FACTS for people to chew on from the www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
Union $ 800 million worth goes to DEMS while Koch $ is $18 million. Do the math and the Koch Bros are out spent 44 + times by just the unions. NOW no one can deny that SOROS $ and influence with all is SILENT orgs and foundations.
This is just my .02 cents worth of my opinion.
Rank Organization Total '89-'12 Dem % Rep% Tilt
1 ActBlue $97,192,340 99% 0%
2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees
$60,667,379 81% 1%
4 National Education Assn
$53,594,488 61% 4%
7 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
$44,478,789 92% 1%
8 United Auto Workers
$41,667,858 71% 0%
9 Carpenters & Joiners Union
$39,260,371 74% 9%
10 Service Employees International Union
$38,395,690 84% 2%
11 Laborers Union
$37,494,010 85% 7%
12 American Federation of Teachers
$36,713,325 89% 0%
13 Communications Workers of America
$36,188,135 86% 0%
14 Teamsters Union $36,123,209 88% 5%
16 United Food & Commercial Workers Union
$33,756,550 86% 0%
17 United Parcel Service
$32,214,128 35% 64%
20 Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
$31,313,097 98% 1%
32 National Assn of Letter Carriers
$26,106,359 84% 9%
39 Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
$23,886,248 85% 4%
42 Operating Engineers Union
$23,036,848 82% 14%
43 International Assn of Fire Fighters
$22,963,260 79% 16%
46 Sheet Metal Workers Union
$22,372,978 95% 2%
59 Koch Industries $18,083,948 8% 90%
60 American Postal Workers Union
$17,957,308 86% 2%
Sun, 2014-02-16 12:15
The gay agenda is getting so radical and belligerent that people are now pushing back. Gays are not oppressed in any way in the USA. But if they keep trying to make it "normal", and that we all have to not only accept it, but have the schools teach our kids it is normal... you are bound to get blow-back.
If someone conscientiously objects to the homosexual lifestyle, and does not want to promote it in any way because of personal, religious convictions...why should they be forced to by the state?
It is not right someone won't cut your hair because you are gay. Making the cake, or officiating at your wedding is furthering your agenda, and lifestyle. In a free country, a person should be able to refuse to be involved. It is not that big of a deal.
I do not think the state will be able to deny services though. That law will never stand up in court.
Thu, 2014-11-13 17:28
I doubt that many gays and lesbians live in the rural parts of Kansas. Why would they? If this stands, maybe LGBT people should move out of the state en masse, and should certainly avoid visiting or traveling through. I could say the same about West Virginia, where I now live, but at least some cities here have been supportive of gay rights.
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I only saw Metallica once about 17 years ago and never was more appalled at the way they treat their audience, as in cutting off sales of beer and then spewing mouthfuls of it and pitchers of it onto their gleefull front row folks and telling the audience in no uncertain terms that they were nothing but wormfood and not worthy of the honor of watching them perform. I dislike them intensely as humans but a few of their songs merit some listening to. Lars Ulrich's claim that music downloading was stealing from him personally makes me like the idea more and more and I am dead set against stealing. I am sure the video is cute with legos, but I just despise the band and find them a waste of good oxygen, food and everything else they consume. :steps off soapbox:
I saw them in '89 on the And Justice Tour and later on the black album tour and a few years later at a big outdoor gig and every time they were entertaining. I've never heard them treat the crowd the way you describe. That is out of order. I think they went through a real bad patch though. James Hetfield went into rehab for a while and they released a couple of really bad albums. If you get chance to see the documentary Some Kind Of Monster it shows just how messed up and petty they became. The last couple of albums St Anger and Death Magnetic are while not up there with Master of Puppets are not bad.
I just remembered back in the days of Napster the drummer went on a personal rampage to sue anyone that downloaded any of his music. I know artists have a right to protect their income but it showed him up as a petty money grabbing little git.
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Jan Van Quirm wrote:Vetinari is both patron and protector and this is in fact how the Patrician treats [Leonard] - he's far too valuable to be left to wander around at liberty. because he is in fact a danger to himself and to the public at large!
I bought this up earlier as one of the most significant narrative incongruity in a novel that probably has more of them any other DW novel.
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This got me thinking recently about our LEGO NXT kits... and about the new WeDo kits. Given availability, many kids are now able to start tinkering with robotics at an even younger age. LEGO has provided a kit that will allow a teacher or parent to gauge a child's interest in computers or robots or programming. My son already can't keep his hands off my laptop keyboard and has figured out that dragging his fingers on the touchpad moves the mouse pointer on screen. He's not even 2 yet.
There are other subjects that I believe kids should be introduced to - art, music, history, and more. And each of these subjects probably have their own methods for introducing and encouraging kids to learn more. But we're talking about technology here - specifically, robots. So it makes me wonder how I can use my computer and robot kits to make learning more fun and more supportive when he needs extra help.
It's coming - I can see the day when a child has their own personal robot that imprints on them... follows them, maybe... and is always challenging them with questions and providing some answers. With the development of advanced WiFi technologies, the day is near when Internet connectivity with all devices will be "always on" so access to Wikis and other sites that can provide questions and answers will be a nanosecond away from a robot going out and grabbing a response to a child's query. Text-to-Voice (and vice-versa) conversion is here, but not great, but there will be breakthroughs in that area as well as voice detection and parsing of statements and questions.
Personal robots have a long way to go, but the technology is also moving so fast. I believe we're going to be shocked at the development or robots over the next 10 years. My first computer, the very first Apple Macintosh, had a floppy drive, no hard drive, b&w screen, and a single-button mouse. That was in 1984. Now, 25 years later, my laptop is more powerful than 500 of those Macs put together - and remember, 1984 was pre-Internet. The Dark Ages of computers is over... (can be argued, of course)... now we're going to start seeing robots being developed for all kinds of roles and not just as toys and heavy manufacturing solutions. They're primed and ready to start filling in the other areas of our daily lives - commuting, cooking, cleaning, etc.
It will be interesting to see what the LEGO MINDSTORMS 2020 version looks like. It's only 11 years away, but with all the breakthroughs that are occuring, I'm certain that a RIS owner from 1998 wouldn't recognize it if they had a glimpse. Maybe the next wave of robotics kits (LEGO and non-LEGO) will be for kids to build their own personal learning companion and tweak its outer design to their own style - the operating system and software will "wake up" and the robot will begin to teach its new friend as it begins to learn, too.
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- Sidneys1 said...
Great post Jim!
- Mar 6, 2009, 1:57:00 AM
- neobobkrause said...
Well said. It's a wonderful time to be a kid -- and to be a parent.
- Mar 6, 2009, 2:40:00 AM
- Eric D. Burdo said...
It's kinda scary to think that 2020 is only 11 years away.
I think you're right. I think the next 10 years of robotics are going to be huge. Phones are getting more and more powerful now (aka smart phones). Hobby robotics are gaining rapid ground in the education scene. I know of some schools already teaching programming and game development to middle school age.
And if you think about it... we already have a generation in school that hasn't known a house w/out a computer. They didn't know what it was like to share an Apple computer for 2 hours per week (for the entire class).
- Mar 6, 2009, 3:21:00 AM
- LeGo-Bots Lady (;-p) V.Greene said...
Yes indeed! Technology is advancing at almost light speed. Robotics in the schools (elementary thru high school) are challenging kids and revolutionizing the way they think – one can only image what it may hold for the future.
- Mar 6, 2009, 2:50:00 PM
- AlexD said...
And yet, I still have kids that are bored during FLL meetings. They would rather play computer games, or sports, or something like that. I keep thinking - if I had that when I was 12, I would be doing only it! For many of the kids I've worked with - if something does not explode every minute or so, it's 'boring'. What am I doing wrong?
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England seems to miss Armitage badly, but they didn't look that impressive in the group anyway.
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Mitt Romney's Terrible Laugh
Some public figures get defined by a single image, or a single statement ("Ask not what your country can do for you"; "I am not a crook"). Others have a characteristic linguistic tic or hand gesture that through repetition come to embody them; think of Ronald Reagan's head shake, George W. Bush's shoulder-shimmy, or that closed-fist-with-thumb-on-top thing Bill Clinton used to do.
For Mitt Romney, it's the laugh. I'm sure that at times Romney laughs with genuine mirth, but you know the laugh I'm talking about. It's the one he delivers when he gets asked a question he doesn't want to answer, or is confronted with a demand to explain a flip-flop or a lie. It's the phoniest laugh in the world, the one New York Times reporter Ashley Parker wrote "sounds like someone stating the sounds of laughter, a staccato 'Ha. Ha. Ha.'" Everything Mitt Romney is as a candidate is distilled within that laugh—his insincerity, his ambition, his awkwardness, and above all his fear. When Mitt laughs that way, he is not amused. He is terrified. Because he knows that what he's saying is utter baloney, and he knows that we know it.
So he pretends to find it hilarious that an interviewer wants him to explain why, say, Romneycare was great for Massachusetts but the nearly identical Obamacare is a Stalinist horror for America. Perhaps it is the pain of enacting this facsimile of delight so many times that has hardened Mitt's heart and allowed him to run what has become a campaign of truly singular dishonesty. But whatever moral calculation underlies the decisions he makes, this is the place we have arrived: There may have never been a more dishonest presidential candidate than Mitt Romney.
I say "may," because measuring dishonesty with any precision is an extraordinarily difficult challenge, perhaps an impossible one. But by almost any standard of mendacity we could devise—the sheer quantity of lies, the shamelessness with which they are offered, the centrality of those lies to the candidate's case to the voters—Romney has made enormous strides to outdo his predecessors.
It started before he even began his campaign, when Romney wrote an entire book premised on a lie about Barack Obama. Romney's pre-campaign book, called No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, was built on the idea that Barack Obama makes a habit of apologizing for America, and Mitt Romney would do no such thing. "Never before in American history," Romney wrote, "has its president gone before so many foreign audiences to apologize for so many American misdeeds, both real and imagined." The actual number of times Barack Obama has gone before a foreign audience to apologize for American misdeeds is zero, as has been extensively documented. Undaunted, Romney began his campaign by repeating the lie of the Obama "apology tour" hundreds of times, before audiences all across the land.
And that was just the beginning. If you have the better portion of a day, you could wade through the lengthy catalogue of deceptions blogger Steve Benen has assembled under the heading "Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity." Periodically, Benen puts together 20 or so Romney falsehoods for a post; his latest installment is the 29th in the series.
They come in all shapes and sizes. Some of things Romney says are clearly, factually false and seem to come out of no place other than the "this is the kind of thing a socialist like Obama would do" corner of Romney's imagination, as when he claimed that Obama raised corporate tax rates (nope), or alleged that "President Obama is shrinking our military and hollowing out our national defense" (the military budget has increased every year Obama has been in office). Others are bizarrely false, as when he has said multiple times that the Obama administration hasn't signed any new trade agreements (since Obama took office we have new trade agreements with South Korea, Panama, and Columbia). Others sound like they just popped into his head and felt true, even though they're utterly wrong ("We are the only people on the earth that put our hand over our heart during the playing of the national anthem"). Some things he says are technically matters of interpretation, but are so absurd that no honest person could say them, as when he claims that under Obama, "we're only inches away from no longer being a free economy." Others are seductively specific, yet completely made up ("Obamacare also means that for up to 20 million Americans, they will lose the insurance they currently have, the insurance that they like and they want to keep").
But what is truly notable is how often Romney has put a lie at the center of his campaign. It's one thing to say something false in passing, perhaps when speaking extemporaneously. It's something else to tell a lie, then repeat it again and again on the stump, then put it in a television ad broadcast across the country, then send your surrogates out to repeat it to every camera they can find.
As you've no doubt seen, few of Romney's lies concern himself. He may gild a lily here and there about his record and his past, but the overwhelming portion of his deceptions are about Barack Obama—what he has said, what he has done, and what he believes (whenever you hear Romney say, "Barack Obama believes …" you can be certain he is about to say something ridiculously untrue). The new Romney attack on welfare—falsely claiming that the Obama is eliminating work requirements in the program—is only the latest, but it's hardly the first. Before that it was "you didn't build that," which set a new standard in deceptive use of an out-of-context quote. Before that were a hundred smaller lies about taxes, health care, the economy, foreign policy, and nearly every other subject that could possibly come up. One wonders if at some level Romney thinks he hasn't compromised his integrity if he only makes things up about his opponent.
This is Mitt Romney's own sin, of course, but it's also a failure of journalism. If reporters were really doing their jobs, they would be able to provide enough of a disincentive for lying that no candidate would feel free to mislead so brazenly and so often. They wouldn't mince words or fall back on false balance, but would forthrightly say that Romney is lying when the facts make clear he is. And so they might provide some punishment that would actually make Romney think twice before the next time he approves an ad script that says things that aren't true.
I doubt it'll happen. But if reporters decide that they really need to be more direct about Romney's mendacity, they may start confronting him about it, in some of the rare non-Fox interviews to which he consents. Should that time come, Romney will no doubt laugh. "Ha," he'll say. "Ha. Ha. Ha."
Romney is a rich pariah who simply can't identify with ANY average American through his fog of lies and network of havened money. He'll only continue to get booed out of the room by every group of minority and middle class voters he comes across. His religion and wealth is highly elitist and everyone in this country has had it with his kind. We're telling Mitt he can't buy this election! Read about the role of his money and his Magic Mormon Underwear are playing in the polls at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/05/mitt-romneys-magic-mormon-underwear.html
Romney is a rich pariah who simply can't identify with ANY average American through his fog of lies and network of havened money. He'll only continue to get booed out of the room by every group of minority and middle class voters he comes across. His religion and wealth is highly elitist and everyone in this country has had it with his kind. We're telling Mitt he can't buy this election! Read about the role of his money and his Magic Mormon Underwear are playing in the polls at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/05/mitt-romneys-magic-mormon-underwear.html
Tue, 2012-08-14 16:54
Everything Mr. Waldman writes here is objectively true, and it's terrifying to think that the most dishonest presidential campaign ever could be the first Republican one AFTER the Bush presidency.
Yet, somehow, Romney has always struck me as something of a technocratic manager. I don't get the sense that he'd have responded to 9/11 - an attack perpetrated by transnationals, Saudis, and Afghans - by propagandizing the American people into supporting a preemptive attack on an unrelated third party.
Yet I don't find these two sentiments contradictory. I think Romney is basically a robot who is doing whatever it takes to get elected. The Bush administration taught him that Republicans lap up all the Orwellian nonsense he pours out, and won't call him out on it, ever. So that's what he's doing.
So, if my instincts are right, Romney as president wouldn't respond to terrorist attacks by attacking unrelated third parties, but he will gut what remains of the New Deal and a progressive tax system. His VP selection confirms this.
What a sad time we live in where the idea that a president would respond to a terrorist attack by attacking the people who had actually attacked us needs to be mentioned at all.
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Wed, 2012-08-15 13:31
You may think of Romney as a robot but the reason Obama got Biden for VP is because he is a "yes man" and would not challenge any of Obama's ideas. Romney could not have made it in business if he was a robot.
You said that you "think" he would not do something, but you do not "know" it for a fact. I like to be more sure of a man before I vote for him than just "think" he would do or not do something.
When I go to vote, I will be looking at what Obama has or has not done for the contry and what Romney can or cna't do. Romney has had many successful ventures. (This thing with the Bain Co. and the man losing his wife, Romney was out of the Bain Co when that happened and the man's wife died about 6 yrs later. She had her own medical insurance so I don't see where this ad is truthful). Robot, Romney, Obama has not held any political office and had no experience prior to entering the presidency. The American people who voted for him got what they deserved buy voting someone in that did not have any experience.
Wed, 2012-08-15 18:17
Nancy - how can you be sure of Mitt Romney if so much of what comes out of his mouth is a certifiable lie? Well, I guess you could know for sure that he is a liar. Obama has done a lot for this country: prevented nation from slipping into a depression, got Affordable Care Act passed, re-focused the search for Osama bin Laden with great success, ended the war in Iraq, just to name a few things. I suspect he could have done much more had it not been for the Republican leadership putting their goal of making Obama a one term president before the good of the nation. Think about that before you make your choice in November.
Fri, 2012-08-17 18:33
When you say "Obama has not held any political office" you do realize this makes you look either extremely ignorant or intentionally dishonest. I'll be generous and go with ignorant, so let me educate you: Barrack Obama, prior to serving as President of the United States of America, served as a U.S. Senator from Illinois. He served on numerous committees including Foreign Relations where he chaired the European Affairs subcommittee. Since apparently you don't get anything but Fox News down on the farm, please let me know if there are any other issues you need schooling on.
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While I agree with your overall point, I object to claiming that "Obama ended the war in Iraq." What Obama did was to very reluctantly, against his own wishes, accept an agreement put in place by the Bush/Sheney/Addington administration. The Iraq government absolutely refused to grant American military forces immunity from prosecution for violating Iraqi law in their operations. Obama tried desperately for a year to persuade them to grant American combat forces such an exemption so they could continue to engage in combat in Iraq without worrying about "collateral damage." I'm glad he finally accepted the inevitable and started to withdraw the official government armed forces, but remember that there are still over 5,000 mercenaries employed by the State Department, including their own air force, and uncounted thousands of armed persons providing "security" for the remaining contractors.
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The son of slaves, folk carver William Edmondson did not begin to create art until 1931, when the Nashville hospital where he worked as an orderly closed. A deeply religious man, he obeyed what he experienced as a divine calling to carve tombstones. "I was out in the driveway with some old pieces of stone," he explained, "when I heard a voice telling me to pick up my tools and start to work on a tombstone. I looked up in the sky and right there in the noon daylight He hung a tombstone out for me to make." Gradually, Edmondson extended the scope of his work to include small animals and figures as well. Angel conveys the essence of his art in its graceful directness and simplicity. The pitted limestone surface recalls the weathered faces of the early American and African American tombstones that were the source for many of his forms.
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An atrioventricular septal defect is present at birth. It occurs when any of the tissues that divide the septum do not grow completely. This leaves one or more holes. It may also leave one leaky valve instead of two separate valves.
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Angua was annoying, as swreader mentioned, and a bit of a bitch I thought, no pun intended...Most of what we hear about her in this book is to do with the werewolf/vampire thing, and how she is pleased to hear about Carrot's heart beating faster, but this to me came across in a possessive, rather unemotional way. We don't seem to get any expression of her love for Carrot, or what really makes her tick as a person. Also there is the bit where Angua sees Sally leave as the bats and decides not to tell Vimes, as he might just put it down to their rivalry, well this just doesn't make sense. She must know that Vimes would believe her after all this time.
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Note:You will need to access substantial learning resources and experiences in CloudDeakin (Deakin's online learning environment). Compliance with the Standards in computing, connectivity and student capability are a condition on your enrolment.
The unit examines legal regulation of online conduct and communications, and considers whether, and if so, to what degree, new regulatory paradigms are required to deal with the unique features of the online environment. In particular the unit will cover: the nature of the Internet and the World Wide Web; the challenges of protecting intellectual property in cyberspace; online contracting and consumer protection; privacy and security threats posed by the new information technologies and responses to those threats, both legal and technical; internet content regulation; online defamation. Recent common law developments and legislative responses both in Australia and other jurisdictions will be considered.
Written Assignment 3000 words 40%, Examination 2 hours 60%