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Chapter 1 Introduction
Perspectives: The Role of the Traveler in Translocation of Disease
Since humans began moving from one place to another, they have offered free passage to pathogens on themselves, in their belongings, or on their conveyances, and the consequences of such microbial hitchhiking have, at times, altered the course of history. Among the more notable examples are the great plagues that swept into Europe from Asia during the Middle Ages, the importation of smallpox to the Americas by European explorers, and the reverse movement of syphilis into Europe in those same returning explorers.
Although the movement of pathogens through travel is not a new phenomenon, today's increasing pace and scale of global human movement have enhanced the opportunities for disease spread. HIV infection, with symptoms that may be delayed for years, spread around the world less than a decade after it was recognized. In the 21st century, no place on the globe is more than a day from any other location, which gives even diseases with short incubation periods unprecedented opportunities for rapid spread. The following examples from the early part of this century illustrate the role travel plays in the translocation of infectious diseases. They also remind us that all travelers should take steps to prevent bringing more than luggage to their destinations.
Two new forms of influenza have recently emerged. One is avian influenza A (H5N1), which was first observed during a limited-scale outbreak in Hong Kong in 1997. After a brief hiatus, it reappeared in Vietnam in 2003 and has been in continuous circulation ever since. Even though H5N1 has primarily affected poultry, from 2003 through 2011, 578 human illnesses in 15 countries were reported, with an alarming case-fatality ratio of 59%. The countries with the most human disease (Indonesia, Vietnam, and Egypt) account for 80% of all cases and 78% of all deaths. All are tourist destinations, but no international travelers have become ill, largely because close contact with infected poultry is the primary risk factor for infection, and no sustained human-to-human transmission has been observed. However, movement of the virus between countries in goods carried by conveyances and animals has been documented.
In contrast, the rapid spread of influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 [pH1N1], which produced the first pandemic of the 21st century, was aided by infected travelers, both those who were symptomatic and those who were in the incubation stage. Although the virus was first identified in southern California in April 2009, human illnesses appeared weeks earlier in Mexico. Infected travelers who had visited Mexico were quickly detected in other parts of the world. An analysis of air traffic patterns found a very strong correlation between the volume of air travel from Mexico to a country and the likelihood pH1N1 was identified in that location during the early stages of the pandemic. Aided by travel, this new virus rapidly found its way to dozens of countries after it was identified, resulting in a pandemic designation by the World Health Organization only 2 months later. This virus continues to circulate and has now become a seasonal influenza strain. The pH1N1 pandemic vividly demonstrates the potential for global dissemination of pathogens in a highly interconnected world.
The severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic of 2003 is another major example of the role of travel in the spread of infectious diseases in the 21st century. In February 2003, a professor from southern China, who was caring for patients with an unrecognized respiratory illness, traveled to a family wedding in Hong Kong while he was ill. His infection spread to 10 other travelers in his hotel, who then boarded airplanes to other parts of Asia, North America, and Europe, seeding a global epidemic of SARS that resulted in 8,098 cases and 774 deaths in 29 countries. Fortunately, characteristics of the virus, transmission dynamics of the disease, and aggressive public health measures contained the virus within months, but not before SARS produced widespread fear and economic and political turmoil. SARS had a major influence on the revisions to the International Health Regulations ratified in 2005.
Vaccination programs have substantially reduced the global prevalence of childhood infectious diseases. In the Western Hemisphere, indigenous measles transmission was declared eliminated in 2000, and diseases like mumps and rubella are at historical lows. Globally, poliomyelitis is on the verge of eradication, and endemic transmission of poliovirus is confined to only 3 countries. However, most vaccine-preventable diseases are highly transmissible and can easily spread in infected travelers. As one example, in recent years, transmission cycles were reestablished because poliovirus was imported into previously polio-free areas.
In the United States, clusters of measles continue to occur as a result of travel. These episodes have been precipitated by visitors from areas of the world where measles continues to circulate because of low vaccination coverage, susceptible US travelers going abroad, and overseas adoptees. These importations then ignite domestic outbreaks because of lower levels of population immunity in some communities, which is fueled largely by parents who elect not to vaccinate their children. In 2011, the United States reported 222 cases of measles, the largest number seen in 15 years. This number contrasts with a median of 56 cases reported per year from 2001 through 2008. Of the 2011 cases, 90% were definitely linked to importation (the remaining 10% were unknown), and 52 cases occurred in US residents exposed while abroad. The leading sources of importation were Europe (46%), Southeast Asia (26%), and the Western Pacific (15%), likely reflective of tourism patterns to and from areas with active measles transmission.
Several recent large outbreaks of mumps in the United States are directly traceable to travel-related importation from Great Britain. A 2006 outbreak centered in Iowa, likely fueled by spring break travel, resulted in 6,584 mumps cases being reported across the country. A more recent outbreak that began in mid-2009, resulting in more than 2,000 cases in New York City and surrounding states, largely centered around an Orthodox Jewish community. This outbreak was started by a single traveler to Great Britain who returned to a summer camp in New York State. Mumps then spread to campers and staff, who carried it home to New York City and ignited sustained transmission for many months.
In 2002, only 6 countries had circulating indigenous wild-type poliovirus, but from 2002 through 2007, wild-type poliovirus spread to 27 previously disease-free countries in Africa and Asia through the movement of infected travelers. Northern Nigeria was the source of most of these illnesses, which reached all the way to Indonesia. Vaccination campaigns, guided by laboratory-based surveillance, largely disrupted transmission in these places, but travel continues to result in the spread of polio. In 2010, even as polio incidence decreased in Nigeria and India, 2 large outbreaks demonstrated the risk of introduction from poliovirus reservoirs. Spread of poliovirus into Tajikistan from India caused an outbreak of 458 cases and, subsequently, 18 cases in 2 other Central Asian republics and Russia. In central Africa, a large outbreak resulted after introduction of the virus from Angola, producing 441 cases in the Republic of Congo and an additional 104 cases in neighboring Democratic Republic of Congo. In 2011, cases of wild-type polio were identified in 16 countries, although only 1 recognized case occurred in India, which subsequently had no reported cases in more than a year. Although polio does not pose a threat to most travelers, it remains a serious concern for migrants, pilgrims, and people displaced by conflict; outbreaks heavily tax the public health resources of affected countries.
Several mosquito-transmitted diseases have expanded their range in the last decade. West Nile virus was introduced into New York City in 1999 and, in the next several years, spread throughout the Western Hemisphere, resulting in millions of human infections. The source and mode of introduction are unknown; although an infected traveler is a possibility, importation of infected birds or mosquitoes is considered more likely.
For 2 other major vectorborne infections (dengue and chikungunya), the role of travelers is clear. Neither of these viruses has an avian intermediary, and humans are amplifying hosts for both viruses, effectively moving these viruses from place to place. Dengue outbreaks are expanding in scale and scope, especially in Asia and South America. Since 2000, dengue virus has made incursions into the United States via infected travelers, producing outbreaks with local transmission in Texas, Hawaii (2001, 2011), and Florida (2009–2010, 2011). In Hawaii, for the first time since the 1940s, local dengue transmission was detected in 2001 when an outbreak in Maui resulted in 122 cases. The outbreak source was thought to be travelers from French Polynesia, which was experiencing an outbreak at the time. In 2010, an outbreak was identified in Oahu when 5 locally acquired dengue cases were linked to a sick traveler returning from the Philippines. In 2009, local dengue transmission was seen for the first time in Florida in 6 decades. This resulted in sustained local dengue transmission in 2009 and 2010; 93 cases of dengue were identified, principally among residents of the Florida Keys and tourists to the Florida Keys from other areas of the United States. Although dengue transmission appears to have subsided in the Florida Keys, in 2011 a total of 7 locally acquired infections were identified in 4 other Florida counties. The source of introduction of dengue virus to Florida is unknown, although many people from areas where dengue is endemic transit through the area.
Chikungunya virus was largely restricted to Africa and Asia until it began to appear on islands of the Indian Ocean in 2005, after an outbreak in Kenya in 2004. From there, it crossed to the Indian subcontinent in 2006, touching off major disease outbreaks, especially in southern India. Sizeable numbers of travelers to Indian Ocean tourist destinations and India have returned to Europe, North America, and Australia infected with chikungunya virus, and infected Indian nationals have also been seen in these locations. This has provided opportunities for local transmission of chikungunya virus to occur, including in northern Italy in 2007 and southeast France and south-central China in 2010. The source for translocation in Italy was a viremic traveler from India. A total of 205 locally acquired cases were acquired through infected Aedes albopictus mosquitoes, an invasive species that appeared in the area in the early 1990s. In contrast to West Nile in North America, chikungunya virus does not appear to have persisted in northern Italy. Many countries that have a viable vector for chikungunya virus remain at risk for importation and local transmission.
In October 2010, cholera unexpectedly appeared in Haiti for the first time in recorded history. The cholera outbreak struck in the aftermath of the devastating January 2010 Haiti earthquake, which killed an estimated 316,000 people. The Vibrio cholerae strain (toxigenic serogroup O1, serotype Ogawa, biotype El Tor) responsible for the outbreak did not genetically resemble the Latin American outbreak strain that appeared in the 1990s or strains occasionally found along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. Instead, it more closely resembled strains recently circulating in south Asia and Africa. A number of hypotheses were advanced regarding how the organism arrived in Haiti, including potential introduction by troops serving as part of the United Nations peacekeeping force housed upstream of the area where the first cases were recognized. Given Haiti's widespread poverty, poor sanitation, and population displacement in the aftermath of the earthquake, cholera spread rapidly. Shortly after it was recognized, cholera was causing thousands of cases throughout the country per week. As of April 2012, more than half a million cases had been recorded, with almost 300,000 hospitalizations and >7,000 deaths. Cholera subsequently spread to the Dominican Republic, which shares the island of Hispaniola, and Cuba. It also moved via travelers to and from Haiti to other countries, including the United States. Since these other locations have better sanitation infrastructure than Haiti, the risk of local spread of cholera is low. This outbreak provides a dramatic and unfortunate example of how disease can move from place to place with devastating consequences.
Antimicrobial drug resistance among bacteria, viruses, fungi, and parasites is a growing problem. Travelers have frequently aided the spread of drug-resistant pathogens, including drug-resistant strains of Neisseria gonorrhoeae, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), and multidrug-resistant Acinetobacter baumannii. Highly drug-resistant strains of bacteria that are important causes of health care–associated infection (HAI), for example, carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae (CRE), have emerged and been spread internationally via travelers. In 2006, HAI outbreaks due to CRE in Israel were linked to a strain common in the United States. More recently, a new and more transferrable drug-resistance mechanism responsible for CRE, known as the New Delhi metallo-β-lactamase-1 (NDM-1), was reported in 2009 in a Swedish citizen of Indian origin who developed medical problems requiring hospitalization while visiting India. After he returned to Sweden, the patient was again hospitalized, and strains of Klebsiella pneumoniae and Escherichia coli that produced NDM-1 were identified. In 2010, NDM-1 was identified in a series of 29 patients in Great Britain; at least 17 of the patients had traveled to the Indian subcontinent in the year before the diagnosis, and 14 of the 17 had been hospitalized during their visits. Similar findings in 3 patients were reported in the United States in 2010. Now, only a few years after the first case in Sweden, NDM-1 is being detected worldwide (Map 1-01), often first being seen in a patient who was previously hospitalized in the Indian subcontinent or the Balkans. This example shows how highly drug-resistant pathogens associated with health care can easily hitchhike from place to place. The growing phenomenon of medical tourism may further accelerate this trend.
The pilgrimage to Mecca is the world's largest annual event, drawing approximately 2 million Muslims from across the globe to Saudi Arabia. The history of the Hajj pilgrimage is an example of how diseases can spread to home countries of returning travelers after an international mass gathering. The intermingling and close contact offer ample opportunities for transmission of infectious diseases and rapid dissemination as pilgrims return home. In 2000, this occurred with Neisseria meningitidis serogroup W-135. Some vaccines used at that time did not cover this serogroup. After the event, 90 infections in returnees and their contacts were seen across Europe. In contrast, the number of infections in North America, where quadrivalent vaccine that covered W-135 was in use, was small. The outbreak strain of W-135 also quickly surfaced across areas of Africa, Asia, the Middle East, and the Indian Ocean, altering the epidemiologic patterns of meningococcal disease. As a result of this outbreak and similar cases in 2001, pilgrims to the Hajj are now required to be vaccinated with the quadrivalent vaccine.
These examples highlight the diversity of opportunities for microbial movement afforded by travel. No amount of vigilance is likely to eliminate such opportunities, especially since microbes can be silent travelers. However, all travelers should take precautions to prevent the spread of disease.
Map 1-01. Global spread of New Delhi metallo-β-lactamase-producing Klebsiella pneumoniae, as of June 20121
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St. Louis Blues (36-11-5) at Carolina Hurricanes (24-20-9), 7 p.m.
(SportsNetwork.com) - The St. Louis Blues will try to close January on a four- game winning streak when they visit the Carolina Hurricanes for Friday's battle at PNC Arena.
The Blues are riding a three-game winning streak that comes directly on the heels of an embarrassing 7-1 loss in New Jersey on Jan. 21. All told, St. Louis, which is two points behind Chicago for first place in the Central Division, is 9-4-0 this month and 14-4-1 over its past 19 games.
St. Louis exacted revenge against the Devils in its most recent trip to the ice, posting a 3-0 win over a visiting New Jersey club on Tuesday, one week after getting routed in the Garden State.
Alexander Steen scored his 27th goal of the season and Jaroslav Halak stopped 23 shots for his fourth shutout of the campaign to help the Blues subdue the Devils at Scottrade Center.
Brenden Morrow and Maxim Lapierre registered a goal apiece for St. Louis.
After killing off an early New Jersey power play, St. Louis cracked the scoreboard 3:25 into the opening frame as Steen finished off a 3-on-2 rush with a wrister from the slot that deflected off a defender before slipping past Devils goaltender Cory Schneider for a 1-0 lead.
"It was a huge kill," Halak said of keeping New Jersey off the board despite the early power play. "It gave us a boost and I was happy we were able to get the first (goal)."
St. Louis has a solid 17-6-3 record as the visiting team this season and has won two straight and seven of its past nine road games.
The Hurricanes, meanwhile, will try to get back on track tonight after having a four-game winning streak snapped Tuesday in Montreal. Carolina lost 3-0 to the Canadiens, as Carey Price made 36 saves to shut out the visiting 'Canes.
Anton Khudobin stopped 27-of-30 shots for the Hurricanes, who fell behind 1-0 just over six minutes into the game when Brandon Prust scored the eventual game-winner.
"Giving up the first goal was tough," Hurricanes forward Eric Staal said. "We know they've been struggling of late. We didn't want to give them any life."
Carolina hopes to start a new winning streak on Friday when it kicks off a four-game homestand. The Hurricanes are 13-10-5 as the host this season and have won two straight and three of their past four tests at PNC Arena.
St. Louis posted a 4-2 home win over the Hurricanes on Nov. 16 and has won three of the past five meetings in this series. However, Carolina has claimed four of the past five encounters in Raleigh.
Khudobin, who has never faced the Blues, expects to get a sixth straight start in net for the Hurricanes tonight, although regular No. 1 netminder Cam Ward is nearing a return from a lower-body injury.
Ward was activated off injured reserve on Thursday and sent to the club's American Hockey League affiliate in Charlotte for conditioning. He has missed the team's last 13 games and hasn't played since Dec. 31 against Montreal. He is scheduled to see action for the Charlotte Checkers on Friday.
Halak will get the start for St. Louis and the Czech netminder is 1-2-1 with a 2.28 goals against average in five career outings against the Hurricanes.

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2013 Nebraska High School Wrestling - NSAA State Championships
When: February 14-16, 2013
Where: Omaha, NE
What: Individual State Tournament
The 2013 Nebraska State High School Wrestling State Tournament is set to get under way on Thursday as 896 wrestlers take to the mat at CenturyLink Center Omaha. The tournament runs 3 days and the finals conclude on Saturday afternoon at 3:00 pm. There will be a video stream or broadcast of the State Finals on Saturday.
Next weekend (Feb. 23) will *be Nebraska's first ever Team Dual State Championship located in Kearney.
Tournament Schedule:
Thursday, Feb. 14
- 9:30: 1st Round & Quarterfinals (A & D)
- 4:30: 1st Round & Quarterfinals (B & C)
Friday, Feb. 15
- 9:30: 1st & 2nd Round Consolations (A & D)
- 12:30: 1st & 2nd Round Consolations (B & C)
- 5:00: Semifinals & 3rd Round Cons. (All Classes)
Saturday, Feb. 16
- 9:30: Consolation Semifinals, 3rd & 5th Place Matches (All Classes)
- 3:00: Finals (All Classes)
2013 Nebraska High School Wrestling State Championship Resources:
Brackets – Live Results for the 2013 Nebraska State Wrestling Tournament
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Kyle MacLachlan discovers Texas roadside treasure: Buc-ee's
By Andrea Waguespack | November 15, 2013
Photo By Andrew H. WalkerKyle MacLachlan is tweeting his trip across Texas now. You can see more from his adventures at @Kyle_MacLachlan.
Keep clicking here to see a few things we recommend he buys while at Buc-ee's.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSome of the cool and crazy things you can buy at Buc-ee'sIt's not a real Texas road trip without a stop into Buc-ee's. Here's some of the things we saw for sale at the Buc-ee's in Luling on a recent trip.
Photo By Brett MickelsonJERKY: Nothing says "ROAD TRIP, BRO!" like eatin' chewy meat, and Buc-ee's has lots of it.
Photo By Brett MickelsonCANDIED JALAPENOS: A real Texan considers regular jalapenos candy, but these are good, too.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSTYROFOAM COOLERS: Cheap and light – just the way we like the beers we stuff in them.
Photo By Brett MickelsonHEAVY-DUTY COOLERS: In case your Dr Pepper six-pack picks a fight with a mountain lion.
Photo By Brett MickelsonBUC-EE'S CANDY: When is Buc-ee's going to start letting customers trick-or-treat?
Photo By Brett MickelsonPOPCORN: The snack most likely to be found mashed up and wedged in between your car seats four years from now.
Photo By Brett MickelsonMEAT: Because it's meat, and we want some. (And then some more.)
Photo By Brett MickelsonFRUIT: Yeah, we're going back to the meat ...
Photo By Brett MickelsonTRAIL MIX: Buy a variety and make your own trail mix trail mix.
Photo By Brett MickelsonBEAVER NUGGETS: We're not going to ask where they come from, Buc-ee.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSTUFFED TOYS: We gotta admit – the toothy lil' guy is actually kind of cute.
Photo By Brett MickelsonPEANUT PATTIE: The No. 1 candy of great-grandmothers everywhere.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSWEETS: Because sugar is a best friend that never disappoints.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSTUFF IN MASON JARS: Eating fresh food is for wimps.
Photo By Brett MickelsonHABANERO GARLIC: Horrible breath is the best way to discourage unwanted hitchhikers.
Photo By Brett MickelsonGUMMY CANDY: Now in worms AND bears.
Photo By Brett MickelsonFUDGE: It's like chocolate's naughty sister.
Photo By Brett MickelsonBUC-EE'S HEADPHONES: So gangsta.
Photo By Brett MickelsonWASABI PEAS: Good for clearing out the sinuses.
Photo By Brett MickelsonSHIRTS, SHIRTS, SHIRTS: Plus, more shirts.
Photo By Brett Mickelson... including these TIE-DIE T-SHIRTS: Undoubtedly making their comeback any minute now.
Photo By Brett MickelsonHave we mentioned they sell shirts?
Photo By Brett Mickelson...and also more shirts!!!
Photo By Brett MickelsonBASEBALL CAPS: Which go great with the shirts.
Photo By Brett MickelsonBELT BUCKLE: Every self-respecting hipster should own one of these.
Photo By Brett MickelsonVINTAGE SIGNS: If this is the dentist that Buc-ee uses, we'd suggest going elsewhere.
Photo By Brett MickelsonAND FINALLY ... THE CANVAS BAG: Because as silly as Buc-ee's goodies sometimes seem, we still love them and will need something to take them all out to the car in.
It's a good day for Buc-ee's and Sex and the City fans.
Kyle MacLachlan, Trey from SATC, sent out this tweet, chronicling a rite-of-passage for anyone who passes through the Lone Star State.
Just introduced to a Texas store known as Buc-ee's...some similarities to Oregon State. pic.twitter.com/ehHEe6bhb3— Kyle MacLachlan (@Kyle_MacLachlan) November 15, 2013
In the photo, a bumper sticker proudly proclaims "I brake for beavers!" Check out all of the orange construction barrels through the front windshield.
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The new novel in the #1 New York Times best-selling Dresden Files series. Long ago, Susan Rodriguez was Harry Dresden's lover - until she was attacked by his enemies, leaving her torn between her own humanity and the bloodlust of the vampiric Red Court. Susan then disappeared to South America, where she could fight both her savage gift and those who cursed her with it.
Now Arianna Ortega, Duchess of the Red Court, has discovered a secret Susan has long kept, and she plans to use it - against Harry. To prevail this time, he may have no choice but to embrace the raging fury of his own untapped dark power. Because Harry's not fighting to save the world...He's fighting to save his child.
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"WOW. I'm stunned!"
Butcher's latest Dresden File is OUTSTANDING. Yes, totally worthy of All Caps OUTSTANDING. If you think that because you've read his past Dresden novels, you know how this one is going to end... prepare to be shocked. "Changes" is definitely an appropriate title for this book. I won't go into the plot, because anything beyond what the publishers already described would be far too spoilerish.
I also have to say something about James Marsters- the narrator. Holy Cheese Doodles is this guy good. He can make a shout sound like a shout without it hurting your eardrums, he can meld his voice so it sounds, very believably, like a female whisper. He can produce the crack of dry humor and the choke in his throat when deep sorrow is called for. He did an excellent job of narrating this book and I was left wishing he had been hired to narrate the Codex Allera books that Butcher has also written. (but that is another review.)
Can't say enough good things about this one. Definitely worth the buy.
"Really BIG ???Changes???"
Wizard Harry Dresden face his most daunting battle ever in this latest installment of his war with both the evil in the world of magic and the demons within. This time he must fight to save both himself and the daughter he only recently learned existed.
Like all of Dresden???s adventures, the book begins with the revelation of an evil plot leading to lots of little battles culminating into an epic confrontation. We know that Dresden ultimately will win, but author Jim Butcher does and outstanding job of ramping up the suspense by creating heart stopping how-is-he-ever-going-to-get-out-of-this-one encounters with the badest of the bad monsters from the netherworld. This one, however, is different. The ending is a twist I didn???t see coming, and it does indeed change everything.
The next book in the series is due out this fall and it will no doubt be very interesting to see how Butcher does get Harry out of this one. I think there may be clues in some of the recent books, but we???ll have to impatiently wait and see.
Narrator James Marsters, as always, does a magnificent job of channeling Dresden and bringing Butcher???s imaginative writing to life.
Kent A. Larson
This is easily the best of the Dresden series thus far. The book is aptly named and aptly written along those lines. The character development is phenomenal and many questions are answered. Those who are saying this is a Finale? Nope. I ain't buying that one. I highly recommend this to Dresden fans but STRONGLY DISCOURAGE this being your FIRST book to introduce Dresden.
I am so pleased that Audible now has the complete series now and I recommend you start at the beginning and have the sweet experience of going through all twelve books.
James Marsters does his very best in this audiobook. It's almost more of a dramatized version than an unabridged audiobook! Thanks, James for such an excellent performance.
"I love this novel!"
I really enjoy the entire series; I really enjoy the way Butcher writes. This one is a lot of transformation all at once in Dresden's life, but James Marsters does a fantastic job of reading it, as always. Marsters is an absolutely amazing reader. Not perfect, but vastly entertaining!
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"Summoned Up Another Great Book!"
Literally, from the first line to the last I was captivated and riveted. This is a fast pace story with many of the old characters returning. You will laugh at the humor, cry at the "changes" and be thoroughly entertained in the imaginery world that Jim Butcher has created. The scenery details are amazing and the storyline is a paranormal rollercoaster of making bargains, meeting demons (don't want to say any spoilers) and visiting "never never" places (outside of Chicago). Harry Dresden learns more about his family and his friends, and in order to save one he has to sacrifice. James Marsden is the voice of Harry Dresden and he portrays him flawlessly. He is Harry, and he projects the other characters very well. This series gets better with every book, now is the waiting for the next. Highly recommend reading the Harry Dresden series in order.
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"Hold on tight! It's a great ride!!"
"Changes" or should it be "Finale'". The book builds up to a major end game, and provides a lot more answers then questions. Enjoyed seeing old characters come back into the picutre. I hope this isn't the end of the series, because I'm addicted!! James Marsters does a phenominal job as narrator! His acting pulls you into the story, bringing out all the emotions and humor. Over all, a well built story, great adventure, surprises, and as always a fun and thrilling ride. A must buy, definitely credit worthy! Mr. Butcher, please write more NOW!
"Jim Butcher at his best!"
This is probably the most fast moving of the books in terms of action, but it doesn't reduce the rich drama and character development along the way that is the hallmark of Butcher's writing.. The only problem I had with the story was the ending, but don't let that keep you from buying it. For any fan of modern/urban fantasy, this book is at the top of the pile.
"6 stars - How could it get any better?"
I was hooked on Harry Dresden practically from the first moment of Storm Front. While early books were a little shaky - and James Marsters took a while to reach his stride as a reader - by the time I listened to White Knight, I was convinced that Butcher & Marsters were at the top of their games. Yet over the course of the next several books, Harry and the cast of supporting characters became even more complex, more interesting, more human. And Butcher kept revealing surprises and "Aha!" moments that kept me engrossed.
From the opening moments of Changes, I knew that Butcher had trumped himself with this one. Everything - and I do mean everything - comes together here in a deeply satisfying way (despite a cliffhanger conclusion). Plots that have been unfolding for several books are finally resolved and new ones introduced.
Changes reminded me a lot of the final chapter of The Lord of the Rings - a series referenced by Harry as he and his friends (and even former foes) form a fellowship in order to complete the ultimate quest. The book culminates in a battle of good vs. evil of epic proportions and has a valedictory feel to it. But according to Butcher, there are several more books planned for the series - good news for his devoted fans.
I urge anyone who has not read previous Dresden Files not to begin with this. The impact of this book is meant for devoted fans - it is a payoff 12 books in the making - as well as a glimpse of new directions for Dresden and Company.
Any criticism I have seems petty by comparison to the towering achievement Butcher has realized in Changes. There are a few moments where I felt the editing should have been tighter - which is perhaps why Butcher has pushed back the release of his next outing - Ghost Story - from April to July, 2011. The worst part of being a Dresden Files fan is figuring out how to feed our addiction between fix.
Bravo, Mr. Butcher! A tour de force.
"Pivital Point for the story IMO"
Consider "Changes" to just be a pivot point in a extremely well told story. When you go through it you get to see Harry make his usual hard choices even his hardest. There is also some interesting character development with some of the bit part characters. One of the major characters dies and Jim fleshes out a good portion of the rest of the major players. Uriel makes an appearance as well as a unexpected god (note the lower case for you religious nutters). And Thomas is by Harry's side through most of it. Excellent read for the Dresden Crack addicts we all are.
"enjoyed every minute of it"
loved it from start to finish, good story and excellent performance by masters to top it all
"Great Narration"
I enjoyed this story very much and was taken by surprise by the ending. James Marsters gives great value as always: why is he not narrating the next instalment?
"The continuing twists and turns of Dresdens life"
This is one of the best Dresden files so far
I don't want to give away any of the plot points but trust me when I say your jaw will drop in the first few minutes if listening to this file
James Marsters is Harry Dresden ! It's that simple
Never get between a wizard and his family!
Oh yes, I have read the Hardback when it first released and couldn't wait for it to be released in Audio format. It did take a while for it to be available on Audible. The story is fast paced, witty and connects a few dots whilst creating a lot more. I found that by listening to this, after reading Ghost Story, there was lots of little things that I had missed and help unravel more of the overall story arc.
The development of characters previously briefly glimpsed.
He makes a great Harry, a great voice. Also love his Bob voice too.
Oh cripes... No, I can't do this without dropping plot clangers, sorry.
This is the twelfth book in the series and doesn't make a great stand-alone listen. However fans of Harry Dresden books won't be disappointed by these audiobooks.
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- Joshua Lee
- Pittsburgh, PA
- United States
This conversation is closed.
Is the language we use perpetuating the racial divide?
When I started working at the University I was asked, "Who do you relate to?" I answered unawares of their intention, "My wife." To which there was a pause... an irritated pause... ,"No, What race do you identify with?" Response, "The human race."
This only provides a small example into the plethora of ways that language contributes to how we perceive ourselves and others. This example illustrates how language shapes identity or at least perceived identity and its association with our race. It gives clues to how society contributes to a divide that no longer should exist. I believe that we can move beyond defining ourselves through race. We can rebuild ourselves through language and allow growth to truly take place.
Perhaps then a lack of opportunities wouldn't be presented as a racial issue but an economic issue, perhaps stereotypes would disappear and we would be able to characterize each other based on work ethic not racial stigmas, Perhaps we would be able to address the social issues from a less jaded perspective. Maybe now is the time that we stop making up for our ancestors mistakes and start working together as true equals.
adesh saxena
Jul 2 2013: Every thing in this world including language is neutral,
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We are the ones who attach meanings to these things which are essentially neutral.
To a sage or an animal there is no signicant difference between gold and stone.
Jul 2 2013: I agree Adesh, How do you suppose we get to a point where the meanings attached are void of dividing nuances?
adesh saxena
Jul 2 2013: Joshua you harbour utopian dreams.
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Your dreams may never be realised but you will definitly evolve as a human being. Keep dreaming, keep growing.
Joshua Lee
Jul 2 2013: Perhaps, I do have utopian dreams and I can hope for all mankind that they are realized. I appreciate your comments.
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I would argue though that this particular subject is not one that would fulfill the stipulations around a utopian society but instead would harbor progress to solving the bigger questions with more focus and less distraction.
In addition, I feel this is a discussion that if started now on a global scale we may have the opportunity to bring about change and accomplish societies that are free from division.Jul 2 2013: Everything starts with a dream.....in my humble perception:>)
Elizabeth Gu
Jun 27 2013: As long as the language you're talking about doesn't define in the partial ways, yeah.
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Needless to say, language helps form ideas called 'thoughts' and communicate with others logically, effectively and profoundly—depending on how you use it.
Language affects us a lot more than we think.
If we can use it in proper (or more innovational(?)) ways to get rid of the barrier called 'racial divide—to quote', it would be not only an awesome tool, but also a huge change throughout the world.
It all depends on 'how' you use your language with less partial definite expressions.
Jun 28 2013: Can you be more specific? I like this train of thought and would like to explore the implications of what you are saying.
Elizabeth Gu
Jun 28 2013: I thought being specific would rather make it sound just…. specific..lol
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for instance, with a little discretion and sensitivity, anyone can at least avoid being called a racist.
Like I said before, "Language affects us a lot more than we think."
Even if you don't really mean to make prejudiced or partial expressions with what you think about something, others could take it really seriously or in a different way.
(Btw, considering…this, comedians are so clever..)
Simply considering consequences wouldn't hurt.
(I'm not sure this example gives you any clarity of what I wrote above.
It might just sound like some sort of an easy(well, not easy)-way-out. )
But see above 'pat gilbert's comment.
"Give the racism thing a rest."
Doesn't he sound like he's fed up with even a word of 'race'?
I totally understand what he meant by that.
But it also reminds me of the fact that quite many people are get tired of hearing debates on sensitive issues like 'racism' while not even making an effort to avoid making that kind of issues, you know what I mean?
The language we use can perpetuate the 'racial divide' unless we unconsciously make that sensitive, yet invisible barrier solid.
Jun 28 2013: What does this mean: "But it also reminds me of the fact that quite many people are get tired of hearing debates on sensitive issues like 'racism' while not even making an effort to avoid making that kind of issues?"Jun 28 2013: Re: "Doesn't he sound like he's fed up with even a word of 'race'?
I totally understand what he meant by that."
I agree. We know we don't have a problem when we don't even know that this is a problem. So, as long as we keep saying 'race', 'race', we know we have an issue. So, we shouldn't have these discussions UNLESS we do have an issue.Jun 29 2013: Barry, Sean, Elizabeth, Joshua, Fritzie, and Arkady,
I like this train of thought too! I believe there still is a racial issue for many people, and I also believe that more and more people all the time are making an attempt to understand and accept people of different cultures. I agree with Elizabeth... "Language affects us a lot more than we think.". If we become more aware of language and how we are using it, perhaps it would not cause as much of a racial divide?
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Jun 29 2013: Good point. I very rarely see a need to describe a person based on race. Most of the time, we can use their name, or if we don't have a name, calling each other a "person" works, because that is what we all are, first and foremost:>)
Sharon Stone
Jul 1 2013: In a perfect world, where humans are devoid of ego, we would not use labels to identify ourselves or others.
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The challenge, perhaps like TED does, is introducing ourselves with what we are passionate about.
How would you change how "we" define ourselves?
Jul 2 2013: Who says we need to define ourselves. The very practice of defining who we are is limiting to say the least. We all have unlimited potential to be whatever it is our heart desires. I would suggest instead of defining ourselves we should learn to coexist without the limits of titles. I am not suggesting that this would work in all atmospheres I am aware that structure is necessary in certain aspects like work but in our personal lives why should we use language that limits who we are, what we are interested in, who we are interested in, and place a title on ourselves.Jul 2 2013: I like this conversation Sharon and Joshua, because I do not like labels. That is why I didn't put very much information in my profile. The things I have done in my life come out in conversations where it might be relevant to the topic. The roles I have played in the life adventure, do not define who and what I am, although they certainly contribute to the end product, which is a work in progress all the time:>)
I agree Sharon that in a perfect world, we may not use labels. I also agree with you Joshua that the practice of defining who we are is limiting to a certain degree, because we all have unlimited potential, in my perception.
The "racial divide" happens when we define others based on race? So, it is our underlying perception or prejudice that causes the divide rather than the words we use? Or perhaps we sometimes use words which reinforce an established prejudice?
Jul 2 2013: Kudos Sharon on your perspective and ultimately this is what I hope would be the rule instead of the exception. Context is the key I am starting to think. The fact that you didn't provide a great deal in your profile not only says that you wish to share what is relevant contextually but it also provides mystery. I sometimes wonder if in the digital age we have become to exposed.
I would argue that we are still taught and develop our underlying perceptions and prejudices so in essence we continue to cause the divide even inadvertently.
I do feel that we are on the precipice of change and the chasm between people is shrinking. Edulover had a great point earlier that may be the catalyst for exponentially decreasing the timeframe to complete and positive acceptance. Full integration may be the best way to begin eliminating the divide and stereotypes.Just a thought.
Sharon Stone
Jul 1 2013: My opinion only: It is not just the words we CHOOSE to use, but also the ears we were TAUGHT to listen with.
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Social engineering has been tried many times and largely only makes superficial headway.
'Because the family itself is fundamentally changing with muti-cultural and multi-racial combinations at the nuclear and extended family level, I believe we are on the cusp of real change and seeking others with similar interests or commonalities, rather than what we have been TAUGHT to hear or say.
Good discussion, thanks for starting it.
Jul 1 2013: Sharon,
On point, thank you for the well thought out opinion. I have a tendency to agree with you however, rather than approaching it as social engineering do you think it would be possible to reshape or social views through a renewed approach to the words we use to describe ourselves and others. Instead of communicating that I am a Caucasian, heterosexual, catholic male, why not I'M ME.Jul 1 2013: Sharon and Joshua,
I totally agree......it is not just the words we choose, but the ears we were TAUGHT to listen with....well said Sharon! I also believe we are on the cusp of real change, and it appears that our advanced communication systems, which facilitate connection around the world, are supporting that process!
wayne uejio
Jul 2 2013: go listen to South Pacific, there is a song you've got to be taught. Rodgers and Hammerstein had to fight to keep the song in the play and eventually in the movie
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Jul 2 2013: Good point Wayne....You've got to be carefully taught......I agree! This song in the show was sung to children, and I believe that children generally accept others without prejudice. A racial divide is taught, so it is the underlying intent with the use of the language, and not the language itself?
Jul 2 2013: Many people react strongly against the prejudices of their parents. This starts, typically, in adolescence, when kids are most focused on finding a unique identity.
But this is also an age when 'them" and "us" thinking can set in as part of establishing an identity. It won't necessarily be the same sort of division parents make- most probably not, I should think.Jul 2 2013: A wonderful song! It seems that it is a vicious cycle. Children accept without prejudice, they are taught prejudice by there parents/society ect. How do we break the cycle? How do we on a grand scale carefully teach our children to continue to accept without prejudice without interference from the tainted adults?
Or, how do we instead change adult perceptions and erase prejudices so that they are not taught to our children? I suppose that is the better question.
Jul 2 2013: I believe we put a dent in the cycle by offering different ideas, and asking questions, like we are doing here and now:>)
People can question their thoughts, feelings, ideas and beliefs by being aware and mindful. My father was very prejudice, angry and abusive, so as children (8 in our family) we were always hearing derogatory statements about anyone who was not a member of the same ethnic group as my father.
Our mother was unconditionally loving and accepting with everyone. As a child, I started asking the questions.....why does he feel that way about people he doesn't even know? It didn't make sense to me. My mothers perception, attitude and behavior made much more sense, so I embraced it.
I have heard people say...I don't like a certain ethnic group and I don't know why. I ask....how did your parents feel about that group? Well, they didn't like them either!
Do we automatically accept what our parents or society gives us for information? Or are we asking the question.....why do I feel like I do? I suggest a lot of people are not asking the questions.
When I hear jokes that are demeaning to a particular ethnic group, I often ask....do you know anyone from that group of people? How do you think that feels? The joker often says it's ONLY a joke! Well, yes, AND it's a joke or saying that reinforces prejudice. Why do we want to continue doing that? It is another language/word usage that is not beneficial.
I don't think children are naturally prejudice, and perhaps we can learn a lot from them.
Sean Brother
Jun 28 2013: Language is, in my opinion, only a tool -a good one, of course, but only a tool-; which couts are minds, attitudes, characters of persons, good or bad feelings. Language is only the vehicle for transmitting good or bad ideas, love or hate; even obviously, it helps for bad or for good.
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Jun 29 2013: I wholeheartedly agree Sean.......language is a tool which we can choose to use in many different ways.
Barry Palmer
Jun 28 2013: Joshua,
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After reading all of the comments so far, I think you are overemphasizing race.
The problem is not essentially race; the problem is the negative attitude about race AND the many other ways we distinguish us from them.
Racial stereotypes exist, and they should be eliminated. So do cultural stereotypes and national stereotypes. If you go to Cincinnati, you will find that many people in that city have a stereotype for people from Cleveland.
Race is going to be with us for a long time, perhaps forever. We should work to eliminate bad attitudes and bad stereotypes of all sorts.
Jun 29 2013: I agree Barry:>)Jul 1 2013: Okay, So there has been a stream of comments between both LaMar and Pat that have redirected this conversation away from the direction I was hoping to explore.
Is the language we use the cause of or continuance of a racial divide in this country. Can we ever get to a point just as Arkady suggested in one of his posts that we begin to teach our children to coexist without the inclusion of material that inherently divides us all?
If language is a tool as it has been suggested, then does that tool have the potential to contribute directly to expanding the divide of all people even without the direct intention to.
It is a shame but I have learned that the reason I was asked that question during the first week of employment is that the government provides extra funding to the institution based on the number of people that identify with a minority group. Furthermore, I was forced to identify which I find unconscionable I do not identify with caucasians, black, latinos, asians or any other race specifically. I identify with all people on different levels and therefore feel that asking me to pigeon hole myself into a group for funding purposes was wrong.
I truly believe that we all have the ability to contribute without having to judge one another. I think that this type of society is possible as long as the discussion and language leads us there.
Jul 1 2013: Hi Joshua! Nice to have you back in the conversation.
I suggest that perhaps the children can teach us how to coexist if adults stop programming them to believe we are divided.
I believe the language as a tool has the potential to either divide us, or bring us together, depending on how we use it.
I also identify with all people because I perceive us to be more the same than different, and it is our differences from which we can learn about each other.
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Joshua Lee
Jul 1 2013: Well I apologize if you took my post as judging I merely was hoping to bring the conversation back on point. Your posts give the impression of anger and aggression I hope that this debate has not upset you.
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I thi k it is important to have other discussion but perhaps the questions that are spurred by this could open a new thread.Jul 1 2013: I now understand your scenario better. You had written that someone asked "Who do you relate to?" That question sounded like it is asking who you are most comfortable with.
I have definitely seen the question you now describe posed on questionnaires "Which do you identify yourself as" and then a list of race categories. I have encountered it only, though, in situations in which answering was optional- unless answering on the Census was mandatory. I am surprised that your workplace can force you to answer, as you suggest they did.Jun 30 2013: Ten years ago Racial divide happened a lot in China .For an example:ShangHai people looked down other places' people to go to shanghai work.But now it has been changed a lot,because ShangHai's developing comes from other places' people's hard work.People from outside of ShangHai to work there,building an amazing city .Then ShangHai people's discrimination disappeared,ShangHai dialect was very popular there before,but now local people learn to speak mandarine,the change sounds natrually.If who shanghai people still keep the stereotype,would be looked down upon by others:low-educated level...ignorant...
Jul 1 2013: Are you implying that as we become more integrated and language barriers seem to be breaking down there will be less instances for it to divide?
Jul 2 2013: Yes,I meant it:) and meanwhile,better education does help a lot.Jun 29 2013: @Lamar re "
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others."
This definition is very interesting. I completely agree with it. I would go even farther to say that it is immoral to seek any scientific evidence to prove one way or the other. Despite what skeptics and rationalists say about beliefs and evidence, I think, belief that race does not account for such differences is the kind of belief that we must take "on faith" - accept without proof. It does not matter what such research may find. Would you agree?
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Jul 1 2013: In our observations, we see things that we expect to see.
I oppose to the very idea of comparisons not only between races, but between people in general. There are only two outcomes of such activity - a sense of superiority (pride) or a sense of inferiority and envy. I see both outcomes as equally damaging to psychological and social well-being. It is none of my concerns why somebody else is more or less successful/rich/handsome/organized/smart/happy, etc. than I am.Jul 1 2013: You are right, as always. What is right or wrong is, mostly, about purposes and motivations.Jun 29 2013: Are you employed at a public or private university? I ask this only because every public school or institution at which I have worked over the last twenty-five years engages in very extensive and almost continuous discussion of such issues of race and diversity.
I sense from the way you pose your question and from your discussion that this does not happen where you are?
Jun 29 2013: Re: " I ask this only because every public school or institution at which I have worked over the last twenty-five years engages in very extensive and almost continuous discussion of such issues of race and diversity."
Fritzie, don't you think that this "continuous discussion" perpetuates the issue? May be, it's time to stop teaching children that they've "got to be nice to ..." (fill in the blank). Doesn't this also imply that one can be mean to ... (fill in the blank)? When I was a kid, I did not understand why people even mention issues like that because I would never had thought on my own that this could be an issue.
"You've got to be carefully taught..."
Jun 29 2013: Yours is an interesting question. The answer those who do diversity training typically offer to it is that thinking discussions about race are not necessary or no longer necessary is typical of those who enjoy "privilege" in the society.
I was talking about trainings and discussions among adults rather than children. Is the sort of message you describe here how this has been discussed with your children at their schools? I believe you have school-aged children still?
Of course adults who have been engaged in discussions with identical content over several decades do start feeling it grows old.
Jun 29 2013: Re: "The answer those who do diversity training typically offer to it is that thinking discussions about race are not necessary or no longer necessary is typical of those who enjoy "privilege" in the society."
The same can be said the other way: those who think that discussions about race is necessary are those who are interested in perpetuating the idea of racial inequality.
I have school-aged children. I do not discuss the issues of race with them. And I will not unless I would see that I need to address it (if they get wrong ideas from somewhere else).
I have an Elmo disc with a song teaching kids that they "should not be afraid of the dark", how to overcome the fear of the dark, how things we are afraid in the dark are not scary, etc. It sounds outlandish to me. My kids have NEVER been afraid of the dark. I just put them to bed, turn off the light - and that's about it. They don't even KNOW that they SHOULD be afraid of the dark.
Teaching these subjects to people who are unaware of them is like showing pornography to children saying "this is the stuff you are not supposed to look at" or teaching them profanity saying "you are not supposed to know these words".
My son has finished his freshman year in high school. In health class, he had to write long papers on various drugs and what interesting effects they have on the mind. I had no idea that there are such wonderful mushrooms! Thanks for teaching that stuff to my kid!Jun 29 2013: Oh, I know. I am just sharing what those who do these trainings argue.Jun 29 2013: There is a primary and a secondary decision at play here.
The reason they need to teach diversity (secondary decision) is the primary decision that there is racism.
Black unemployment was lower than white unemployment until the nanny state passed the Davis Bacon act (secondary decision). Because of the primary decision that Blacks were discriminated against in employment. The truth is that this meme was started after blacks were used in construction jobs that would work cheaper. The unions did not like this so came up with Davis Bacon and prevailing wage which in reality cost Blacks jobs.
Black graduation is higher without affirmative action. Because of the primary decision that there was racism so they had to institute the secondary decision of affirmative action to give black students a fair chance. This forced schools to accept students they would not ordinarily accept of course these student were not qualified to go to these schools and flunked out.
The government decided poor people were being discriminated against in house loans so they decided that they need the CRA to force banks to make loans they would not otherwise make. The primary decision was that there was discrimination against poor people regarding home loans. The secondary decision was that there needed to be the CRA. You know the rest of the story.
The government decided there were too many unemployed people (primary decision) so extended unemployment to 99 weeks (secondary decision) The result was more unemployed people.
The government decided that illegal aliens did not get enough to eat, support for children, get health care, get housing (primary decision), the secondary decision was to give them section 8 housing, WIC, child support for single mothers, education. Result more illegal aliens. Exacerbated by Reagan and Amnesty.
We are ALL different to think otherwise would be liberal (non thinking).
Where is the aid for white people who are not good at sports or good students?
Jun 29 2013: Pat, could be nice if you provided references for all the info. You refer to numerical data such as graduation rates, unemployment rates, minimum wage. Not that I disagree or don't believe you, but all of that stuff can be anecdotal and you wouldn't even know it yourself. Numerical data and facts are in a different category than moral beliefs.
I disagree with affirmative action for a different reason. If we are to stop discrimination, we need to stop taking race into consideration for employment, college admission, housing, credit, etc. - period. Giving advantage to people of color seems to violate that principle. Moreover, it emphasizes the fact that these people need special treatment because they are "underprivileged" or "disadvantaged", essentially, implying their inferiority. Looking at the current U.S. president, it seems to me that it's time to leave these ideas in the past. Affirmative action seems to be adding insult to the injury emphasizing inequality. Do black people object? Does anybody say "hey, we don't need special privileges! we can qualify for college better than whites without your stinky privileges!" Of course, I say this just to keep "MY privileges".
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Economic facts and fallacies pg 179
Affirmative action which began in the 1970s produced little or no effect on the size of black income
It is hard for me to coax the actual stats out of the BLS tables but these guys are adept at it. They are both Black economists.
Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
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It is easy to find read about the CRA.
The 99 week unemployment extension will be hard to prove. But I have read that whenever it is extended the people tend to stay unemployed longer.
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Jun 29 2013: Read your own link again this time for time for comprehension.Jun 29 2013: Pat, thanks for the links.
@pat re: "Read your own link again this time for time for comprehension."
Pat, this comment does not add any content to what you say. I see it as a personal remark.
@Lamar re: "I am sure you did not expect anyone else to see through that and cherry picking your data is not a way to provide evidence for your opinion because it will be pointed out."
Lamar: what Pat expected does not matter. If you disagree with Pat, it's sufficient to explain why you disagree with what he said.
I say this because I like discussions with both of you, but last time you talked to each other in my own conversation, nobody wanted to comment in it for 3 days and moderators deleted half of the remarks. We need to learn from that.
Jun 29 2013: It is a personal remark. I take the trouble to back up my comments at your request and Lamar starts assuming. This is annoying. My policy has been to ignore his trolling except this time, a mistake I will not repeat.Jun 29 2013: I appreciate, Arkady, your encouraging respectful conversations that are about substance rather than personal attack. Personal attacks have ways of snowballing and making thoughtful people start to avoid the whole thread.
It is particularly unfair effectively to sabotage other people's threads in this way.Jul 1 2013: I work for a state run university in Pennsylvania. I am not saying in any way that the conversation doesn't take place but perhaps not as widely publicized as one would wish. I find it interesting that at other institutions that this topic is discussed with rigor. I am interested to know how some of those conversations play out and what they may directly be related to.
Jul 1 2013: Look up "Courageous Conversations" as an example. Also Lisa Delpit of Stanford, I think, and Peggy McIntosh of Wellesley.Jun 27 2013: As you are thinking about language, what do you think of your own use of the term "the racial divide?"
Jun 28 2013: Truly I see what you are getting at and perhaps that too is divisive language. I think that this term illustrates the issue at hand though. Because of the language we use to communicate there has been a divide created intentionally or un-intentionally between classes of people.
In addition, because of these designators we have been able to attach stigmas to them only strengthening the ability to separate and pit people against each other.Jun 27 2013: "Race" and "racial stereotypes" have always existed. What has changed over time is how "race" is defined. For the Romans, "race" was a matter of how well you spoke Latin and/or Greek and whether or not you understood and followed the customs of the Empire. If you did not, you were either a barbarian or a Persian, which were deemed different "races" from Roman.
Remember, up until the last quarter of the 19th century, the Irish were not deemed to be "white".
Jun 27 2013: Exactly, aren't we just continuing that divisive attitude created by the Romans only to be emulated by generations and societies internationally. Don't you think it is time to break these stereotypes by changing the way we communicate about ourselves and others. Are we not continuing the antiquated practice by insisting that people identify with a race? I am not suggesting that we shouldn't celebrate our ethnicity or the diversity of cultures that we hail from. I am merely suggesting that we should no longer divide ourselves in language or reality by race. The connotations connected with the word are in their very nature divisive. This is a learned behavior that we can correct. How do you suggest that we do this?Jun 27 2013: Your post goes to the point that historically and today there have been/are all sorts of divisions of a them/us nature. Many people's identity is in their minds connected to a particular group that is not an ethnicity or race.Jun 27 2013: That is a surprising story. What proportion of the population do you think would interpret "Who do you relate to?" as a question about race? I would guess the vast majority of people would not know what the question meant at all.
I agree that language can contain assumptions about underlying truths. Mitch linked in another thread a talk by linguist and psychologist George Lakoff in which he analyzed the term 'tax relief" in that context, in the sense of embodying a value judgment.
Jun 27 2013: Thanks for you addition. Amazingly, I have asked that question to a great many people and the majority return with a racial designation. I wonder how we are limited by our own perceptions associated with racial stigmas and how eliminating that frame of mind may redirect our focus aimed at blaming racial issues and more on economic disparities where I believe the problem really lies.
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Jun 27 2013: Josh, I have had similar experiences to the one you describe in the topic explanation.. I have concluded that there is a portion of the population that considers human identity to be primarily social. In this view, identity is derived from the groups of people with whom you mentally and emotionally associate yourself. Some of these people take social identity as a given, and cannot imagine any other way of living. In one case, when I tried to explain that I considered myself primarily as an individual, and that social connections had nothing to do with my core identity, the person could not understand what I meant. In other cases, they could understand, but could not imagine how I could go about daily life in that way.
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My upbringing was very much individualistic, and when I first came upon this attitude I was very puzzled and thought there must be something very wrong with this person. After meeting others with the same attitude, and considerable thought, I started thinking that identity is a choice, and there is nothing intrinsically incorrect or unethical about choosing to build your identity socially. I am curious about what portion of the population thinks/feels this way, but I have no confidence in the people who study these matters, so I have not bothered to look for statistics.
Sorry if you think this is off topic, but I hope that it helps to build the context for your question..
Jun 27 2013: Of course this helps, every aspect, opinion and experience can add to the discussion. Thank you for your story. I too am curious how much of the population has been able to disconnect their identity from race, ethnicity, or any other divider.
I am not sure of the statistics and am unsure how to even collect that data. Even the U.S. Government through the Census Department divides us into our racial categories. Perhaps that would be a good starting point. Rather than counting us by what division we fit in eliminate the racial data altogether.Jul 3 2013: Josh,
Interesting thought.
I think yes. When my grandfather and father came, it was imperative to learn English. That was the language of America,
Our family came here to be Americans. We came from another country were things were in turmoil, aftermath of war, my grandfather had been a indentured farmer as his fathers or over 300 years when the last invader came to the country. In America, everyone was free and could become American. No more invaders, no more indenture, one could be free and prosper. Well, when we got here, we found it was a lot of hard work to be American and even saw a few whose grandfathers came here as indentured or slaves. But, this country was the best there was and the freest
So, what happened. About 50 years ago, the new social bend was that American was not one big country full of Americans, it was one big country full of hyphenated Americans. Each with their own culture, their own language, Each hyphen was a ethnic, linguistic, racial, social, and financial group and a few groups I am not even aware of. As these groups formed and divided America. the first and biggest changes came in language, At first, the way they pronounced 'car' in Boston was a form of amusement in Los Angeles is now a contention.
Schools are trying to keep up with all the languages of people coming to America. Not like when I came, I was to learn English in school and go to college and make something of myself. Now schools are workings with two dozen languages of various hyphenated Americans and there are groups of hyphenated Americans whose language is not being taught. .
Americans today have a multitude of cultures and there are those who revel in the idea that they have their culture and do not have to share cultures with those other hyphenated American and their cultures.
I see a future where multicultural, multilingualistic America will decide it is just too hard to stay one country and break up into a bunch of smaller statesJul 2 2013: Language controls the pattern of information availability. As meaning creatures developing understandings of those sets in 'real time' as ourselves and others generate them in conversation, language inherently limits what ideas we can come to (or rather the speed at which we are likely to come to them). I think people take language for granted instead of an evolutionary tool. Tool's have a lot of tasks and it's important, I think, to know those to which language is applied.
I don't think stereotyping will ever disappear. I'm sure most systems need to class objects in some way, regardless of inner working, for the purpose of dealing with them. Doing so will invariably lead to stereotyping. What's missing from the stereotype language, I think, is the degree of uncertainty (English deals with decision making and probability horribly in my opinion).
Jul 2 2013: Interesting perspective. So you think that stereotyping needs to exist so that we can classify things? If so, don't you think that is limiting our ability to accept one another? Most importantly though, we need to classify objects but do we need to classify people?
What do we gain through this type of classification?
I think we could eliminate classifying people all together, if we did we could eliminate borders, immigration, segregation, privilege, ect.... I think this is possible and I agree that language is a tool but don't you feel that sometime we use it as if we are hammering a nail with the back of a screw gun?
I like the direction you were headed though, how can we more effectively use the tool to eliminate division between races, sexual orientations, religions ect...Jun 29 2013: Here is an interesting perspective on the usage of the N-word.
John McWhorter is a speaker at TED https://www.ted.com/speakers/john_mcwhorter.html
I've heard a program on NPR where it was mentioned that N-word is now used by black people to make white people feel shame and guilt. In a sense, it's used as a tool to dominate white people.
Jun 29 2013: That is an interesting article Arkady, and the author, John McWhorter says..."The affectionate use of the n-word was well established a century ago". I suggest the origin goes way back further than that.... maybe the 15th century, to Niger, Africa?
I don't think black people ever stopped using the term. Malcolm X and co author Alex Haley used the term throughout the "Autobiography of Malcolm X "(published in the early 60s). I cringed every time I saw the word, which was used many times throughout the book. It was difficult for me to even read the word, and I kept reminding myself that if they wanted to call themselves that, they had a right to. It still gave me an odd feeling because of all the negativity that has attached to the word.
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Getting competitive for a good causePosted by on November 5, 2012 – 9:02 pm
The Steelers showed how competitive they are on Sunday when they battled back from a 20-10 fourth quarter deficit to defeat the New York Giants, 24-20.
That competitive spirit was on display again on Monday night at the 6th Annual In the Pocket with Charlie Batch, when players gave their all for a good cause.
Players went head-to-head with guests in games like pool and ping pong to benefit the Best of the Batch Foundation, and you could tell by the intensity losing was not an option.
"It's always fun," said Batch. "That is how it started, because I saw how competitive everyone in the locker room was. We wanted to raise money in a fun way and do something different than what was out there. I saw my teammates compete in everything, even throwing a rolled up ball of tape into a garbage can. It turned out because everyone is so competitive and it's fun."
The event has continued to grow since its inception, and Batch's plan is to have it continue to expand.
"It's always exciting because the fans believe in what we are doing and help the cause," said Batch. "We want to make it better. When we started you didn't know what was going to happen. We moved it up after the first year. Now the demand is still there. It's a blessing because people believe in what we are doing."
Proceeds from the event help run the Foundation's Reading and Computer Literacy Program and allows them to house the Steel Valley Alternative School Program. In addition to the hundreds that have used the computer lab, there are currently 11 kids in the alternative school program, sent to the foundation because of behavioral problems in main stream schools or through court order.
"If it wasn't for this they wouldn't have a place to go," said Latasha Wilson-Batch, the foundation's executive director. "They wouldn't get the education they need. It's important for us to do this event because the kids want to do things better, but they need help."
Some refer to the alternative school program as the "Charlie Batch School," and parents have inquired about getting their kids in the program. For Batch that is a compliment because it shows they are doing something right, but his hope is that all the kids are able to attend their own schools and not have to resort to alternative schooling.
"We have them going to school, but it's not cool to be in this school because you got kicked out of school and are in an alternative program," said Batch. "They are angry because now they can't play sports and have to focus on school with no ball. You have to encourage them why they are going to school – to graduate. That is a tough sell because they feel there is no reason to go to school.
"We always try to turn the negative into a positive and try to get them back to main school. That is something we make sure we let them know."
Charlie Batch is serious at the pool table.
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By Joseph C Matonic on Nov 7, 2012 | Reply
Mr. Batch,
I am a Pittsburgh native, exiled to So Cal at age 13. I wish I had your competitive spirit and your capabilities. I am mentally disabled, which is the cross I have to bear.
My Father and I have a life-long bond regarding our home-team, Steelers. In ourselves we are little, other than life-long fans.
Ever since Super-Bowl IX, the very first football game I ever saw, My Father and I have gathered every week, before the TV screen, if not on our TV, at a sports outlet so we could take in every game.
When I think of my Dad I think of this bond. When I think of the Steelers, I think of my Dad.
God Bless, beat KC on Monday!
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I saw no comments, then I saw an opportunity to comment, so I thought I'd try.
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