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Phi Phi Arboreal Resort
125/148 Moo 7, Phi Phi Island
Krabi 81000
Phi Phi Island, Loh Dalum Bay
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Phi Phi Arboreal Resort est situé dans le centre montagneux de l'île tropicale de Koh Phi Phi et offre une vue incroyable sur la mer. Le complexe dispose de 30 chambres équipées de tout le confort moderne avec salle de bain de style, sans carrelages. Nous proposons deux types de chambres au choix, toutes les chambres disposant de terrasses avec vue sur la montagne ou la mer. Choisissez Arboreal comme camp de base pour explorer l'île de Phi Phi Island ainsi que les célèbres sites aux alentours comme par exemple Bamboo Island et Maya Bay. Dégustez un succulent petit déjeuner dans notre confortable restaurant et savourez notre excellente cuisine thaïe au retour de vos excursions.
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Date of stay:
Sep 30, 2012
Accommodation and facilities:
It s a bad experience of two nights at Phi Phi Arboreal Resort. I have already paid for the two kids breakfast fee on Sawadee, when we arrived, we were asked to pay more, it s very strange, even it s not too much, but it gets me uncomforable. Then the breakfast is really too poor, only two options. It s not buffet, and charg a three years old kid with 150THB. When we checked out, we are asked to paid 200THB since we do not check out before 11 AM. So if you want to choose this resort, think bout it carefully! 这次经历比较糟糕。 原本已经在Swadee网站上另外付过两个孩子的早餐费,到酒店前台后,又被要求加付,感觉非常糟糕! 早餐很单调,不是自助,几乎只有两个选择,果汁不是新鲜的,每个人只有两片土司,即使是一个大男人。如果吃不饱要加,需要另外付费! 一般酒店都是12点退房,这家酒店是11点退房,我们在入住的时候并没有给我提醒,当我们退房时候,要求我们付200THB/H的罚金!
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Oct 10, 2012
written by:
Liu Lu
Date of stay:
Jan 19, 2012
Accommodation and facilities:
The hotel is on the hillside. Rooms are superb, though expensive. The problem is to get the room which faces the landscape (we were lucky). If you get the room facing the hillside you will be disappointed. The stairs from the village to the hotel are not the problem at all, there are just about hundred of them.
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Feb 20, 2012
written by:
Grigorii Buteiko
Date of stay:
Mar 06, 2011
Accommodation and facilities:
il faut monter 278 marches pour atteindre les chambres. la climatisation ne fonctionnait pas à notre arrivée, et la douche ne pouvait être réglée. elle était bouillante. le bruit de la fête nocturne de la plage montait jusqu à la chambre le petit déjeuner était très restreint. par contre nous avions une très belle vue sur koh phiphi. le service est très correcte. en conclusion le prix de la chambre est trop elevé par rapport à la situation et la prestation.
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Mar 15, 2011
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Date of stay:
Feb 19, 2011
Accommodation and facilities:
I took a group of young adults to Phi Phi for a birthday and we stayed at Arboreal. The girls were not thrilled with the stairs but they got used to them. Not a big deal if you don t suffer from any health issues. You just need to plan your day so you are not up and down them too many times. The valet service for your bags was most welcome. The men take your bags from the ferry and take them all the way to your room. I wouldn t want that job! At the end of your stay they take them all the way back to the ferry. We all thank you for that service. I picked this hotel due to the location because I wanted some peace and quite from the party noises. It was still close enough for the girls to get back and forth from the bars. The rooms were clean the bathrooms worked well. More than I can say for some of the other hotels on the island. The Bathroom is so important on Phi Phi due to the fact that they don t have any fresh water supply it s all reclaimed from the sea. You are hot and sweaty most of the time and a good shower is hard to beat. So two thumbs up for the shower. We didn t eat there so can t comment on the food but the facilities looked nice and clean with a beautiful view. We can recommend a great place to eat Garlic 1972. Great service and the food was excellent. We had two meals there, dinner and breakfast. Not one thing was bad. Cheap, small but very good food. We enjoyed our stay and when in Phi Phi again will stay with Arboreal. Oh one more note of interest we were there during Makha Bucha holiday and I couldn t believe that all the bars are CLOSED on that day. So try not to go on that holiday if your main reason for being there is to party.
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Feb 22, 2011
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Daelene Kym Norman
Date of stay:
Feb 06, 2011
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The location is veey far from the pier. 110 staira up to the receptionist, and another 160 stairs to our room. Very tiring. However, the view was spectacular. Lots of mosquitos in the room. Watch for monkey come to your doorstep if you keave anytrash outside the room. We add extra bed,butthey did not provide one.instead they just cover the sofa inthw room and call it an extra bed, nd it cost 600bath without bfasf.
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Feb 09, 2011
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hendrik tunriallu
Date of stay:
Jan 04, 2011
Accommodation and facilities:
The view was great, and the room was big and clean. The bathroom was very basic. The staff were very friendly and helpful, and assisted us with our luggage up the stairs to the room and back down to the pier(there are a lot of steps depending on how high up the hill you stay). If you get a room high up on the hill, be prepared to walk a lot of steps every day. The breakfast could have been better, it was just the same american breakfast every day, but was sufficient.Overall we were satisfied with the hotel, and the staff were great.
Reservation service:
Smooth, no probems.
Jan 09, 2011
written by:
Aleksandar Stanojevic
Date of stay:
Oct 01, 2010
Accommodation and facilities:
Nice Seaview Room. The only thing is you have to climb up a bit high.
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Oct 08, 2010
written by:
Zhou Lei
Date of stay:
Jul 13, 2010
Accommodation and facilities:
Great resort with friendly staff, far away from the noise on the beach and the drunk people in Phi Phi towncenter. OK, you have to climb quite a few steps (more than 100 if your bungalow is located on top), but the views are great. Porterage available from the pier (and back) at 50 baht pp. Bungalow was spacious and clean, the view from the balcony was great. Somewhat noisy aircon, but you can t do without. Bathroom seemed unfinshed (only partly tiled), but was clean and with hot shower. Towels and bed linen changed daily unless you indicated this wasn t necessary. Towels for beach provided if asked.
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As good as ever before. Resort knew we were coming and staff was waiting at the pier. Special wishes had been dealt with (3rd bed, nicest view).
Jul 27, 2010
written by:
Gerard van Uden
Date of stay:
May 19, 2010
Accommodation and facilities:
Couldn t locate anyone at the pier to take us to the hotel. We had to carry our luggage by ourselves, and the hotel was far from the pier. We had to climb a million steps to get to the hotel, which was hard to find. Great view from balcony, but not worth the effort to climb the stairs. You could just go the viewpoint once and get a fantastic view. Amenities are very basic (only shampoo and soap in bathroom, no hairdryer in room). Shower temperature couldn t be adjusted; it would only run hot or cold. Staff was polite. They allowed us to have breakfast even though it was 20 minutes past the cutoff time. Overall, room is not value for money. You could get something of the same standard cheaper.
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Easy, fast and good
May 21, 2010
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Date of stay:
May 07, 2010
Accommodation and facilities:
this is a banglow on the small hill, about 5 mins walk from the pier, and be prepared that you will definite climb around 50-60 steps up to your room. would be a hardwork if you have some baggages. the view is so so, can see a little bit water and mostly is the green island landscape. location is alright, since the entire phi phi is no more than 10mins aways. and one more thing, the frontdesk is not 24/7. cos i remember one night when i got back around 1 or 2 am, and my shower stopped working, i pratically had no one to turn to. rooms are nice actually.
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very good seriver, one day response. very competetive price, nowhere is cheaper. love it.
May 09, 2010
written by:
Yu Qian
Date of stay:
May 01, 2010
Accommodation and facilities:
Good rooms for the amount we paid, we had the deluxe room. These rooms are over 200 steps up from the street, so being young and fit helps. The view is beautiful from the rooms. Best part of the stay here was the service of the hotel employees. They first met us at the pier once we got off the ferry, where they took our luggage and brought it all the way to our room, and then upon checking out, they brought our luggage back all the way to the pier. The front desk staff and breakfast service was top notch too. This hotel is a good option for those who want to stay a bit outside of the noisy main town, but still close enough to go enjoy the town via a 5 minute walk. A pool would have been nice, but on the bright side, the rooms have AC. Also, by being up the hill, you are situated closer to the must see viewpoint.
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Fast, efficient and without any problems
May 03, 2010
written by:
Radoslaw Weronski
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Standard Room - Twin Bed
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33 - 47 €
35 €
Standard Room - Twin Bed
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37 - 70 €
39 €
Superior Room
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36 - 56 €
38 €
Superior Room
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44 - 67 €
46 €
Deluxe Room
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50 - 88 €
53 €
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89 - 270 €
94 €
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Phi Phi Arboreal Resort
Located on the tropical island of Phi Phi in the south of Thailand, Phi Phi Arboreal Resort sits proudly between two exciting natural realms the ocean, facing to both of Loh Dalum Bay and Ton Sai Bay and the tropical garden that are so abundant throughout this island. And regardless of whether you prefer being horizontally inclined for much of your stay could exploring the great outdoors, such as Viking Cave, Maya Bay, Phi Phi Lay Bay and Bamboo Island. you're definitely in the right place.
We provides 30 rooms, all rooms feature with air condition, satellite TV, mini bar, coffee & tea making facilities, wardrobe & dressing table, hot & cold water, hair dryer, in room safety box and internet.
:: Standard Room - Twin Bed ::
:: Superior Room ::
Superior Room with private balcony (Sea view and mountain view) / Room size 32 sq.m.
:: Deluxe Room ::
Deluxe Room with private balcony (Sea view and mountain view) / Room size 36 sq.m.
:: Family Room ::
Room service 22:00 hours
Thai massage
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Boat and car transfer
Free Wi-Fi at reception area (Only play to the notebook's customer)
Internet café at reception area (Have the charges to play)
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Laundry and dry clean service
24 hours security and water supply
15 minutes from the pier walking distance to the resort. The located is up on the hill side with over looking sea view.
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love this rug, thick and beautiful
Just a lovey addition to our living room, great buy for the price.Read More
Nice Rug, Cocoa color not as pictured.
Rug seemed nice and thick, good quality, etc. However, I ordered the cocoa color, which appears on my screen as a lighter brown color. It was in fact very dark brown (I have dark brown leather furniture and it was the same color as my furniture). It was just too dark and made the whole room dark. Unfortunately I am returning it. I may try the cream color though, as I liked the rug other than the color.Read More
ok.. but not great quality
ok, hard to clean, hard to vacuum, but looks good from afar, not rich quality.basic rugRead More
Great Rug for price
Love this rug. I purchased it in white. It looks great in my dining room. Good quality for the price. It is shaggy carpet but NOT plush. It is purely functional.Read More
not very full. a bit sparse in the stitchingRead More
Great Rug! Perfected my livingroom
The rug is overall very nice for the price. It is able to withstand frequent vacuuming and 2 dogs that love it. I was slightly disappointed that the sizing was a bit off but not a real problem for me. As for the shade variation, I actually purchased it because others stated that it was off white which is what I was looking for. I also purchased a thick pad which I would highly recommend.Read More
Alexa Plush Rug
This rug was ordered for a nursery, and it feels great underfoot, either with shoes or barefooted. I was happy to see the color and plushness lived up to the picture and description, and that the workmanship is finished on all edges and the underside. I would recommend this product and would purchase again.Read More
Soft plush shag rug!!!
I bought this rug in white and wow so amazing! It's very soft, thick,fluffy and beautiful! NO SHEDDING AT ALL!!! The white color is very accurate. It brightens my family room! I will be purchasing another one in cream for my living room! Very satisfied with this purchase! thank you Overstock!Read More
good for price
The rug is beautiful, but it's not as luxurious and thick as others I have seen. However, it is also much less expensive than other shag rugs elsewhere. The smell is terrible, but am hoping that it goes away soon. Also, the edges are very "raw" and look old and shattered. The rug is on the thin side and is definitely not white--more of an antique/ivory white. I bought it for my daughter's nursery and am satifsfied vis a vis the price I paid.Read More
misleading color
this rug would have gotten 5 stars if the color displayed online were the color of the actual rug. i ordered the glacier blue, which appears to be a light blue/silver tone in the picture. this rug is more teal than anything. not at all as expected. this is the 3rd time i have received a rug from overstock where this was the case. the first 2 i sent back. this one i am keeping and trying to make it work simply because i am tired of losing out on the cost of return shipping. again-the rug itself is great and a bargain, but the unexpected color is a true bummer.Read More
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Hello gannanc, the color appears to be more of a brighter red in my opinion. Please let us know if you have additional questions. Thanks for shopping with us.
Does this rug work okay on a concrete floor? Also, I cannot tell the difference in some of the colors? The three darker colors - I don't know where they are labeled in the pictures. Thank you.
Hello Laura, it should work fine on a concrete floor, especially with a rug pad. Unfortunately, we do have some constraints on labeling the pictures that we are working around, so we apologize for the confusion. The three darkest colors are Black, Black with the silver or light grey and then there is just grey. We hope this helps. Thank you for shopping with us.
Is the grey color the darker one in the pictures or lighter one? Ere are 2 greys in thr picture
Hello Stef, the grey is featured in the second photo, we do apologize for the confusion. Thank you for shopping with us.
I am interested in the rug color that is beige. It is pictured in the top left corner. However, I only see an option for gold. When I scroll through the rug colors, I see one that looks beige and another that looks gold. I want to make sure I get the rug that is beige and not gold.
Hello akuaod, the beige nuLOOM Alexa 'My Soft and Plush' Shag Rug (8' x 10') is sold out. We are sorry, please check back. Have a great day.
I don't know how much shipping and handling is on a 8x10 rug is.....
Hello Bees and buzz, this item ships FREE to most areas. Please add this item to your cart to verify for your location. Thank you for shopping with us.
Hi. Am interested in the light beigey one but didn't want to order the wrong color. What are you calling that light one? Thanks in advance for your help.
Hello Nanax7, the third photo is the ivory option, the last photo is the gold option. Thanks for shopping with us!
I finally ordered the red 8x10 after much hesitation and comparing to a Costco rug. I am concerned that this red is too "fire engine" and not a deeper red. If I do not like the color, what is the return policy on it?
Hello 22denise22, this item can be returned within 30 days of delivery, in new and unused condition. Please see the link listed at the bottom of this page, Standard Return Policy, for full details. Thank you for shopping with us.
Is the back of the rug cotton or at least soft? We just had our wood floors refinished so we need something soft.
Hello Pat, the backing is soft, but we recommend a non skip padding to put down underneath for extra padding. Thank you for shopping with us!
Is the green color more of a moss green color, or bright green? Below you say bright, and that has me concerned. Please advise. Is there free shipping for returns if I do not line the color?
Hello lynnc, this looks to be more of a bright moss green. We try to represent the colors of our products accurately. Unfortunately, due to the difference in monitor colors we cannot guarantee that the color will match exactly what you see on your screen. Thank you for shopping with us.
What color is the beige one? you listed gold and cocoa?
Hello duybui, we appreciate your inquiry. The ivory (beige) color is the gold option, and the light brown is the cocoa option. We hope this information has been helpful. Thank you for shopping with us!
How is the rug shipped and how heavy is it? I'd like to take it to my house oversees and would like to know if it will fit in a checked suitcase.
Hello Cattinl, this item arrives in a package that weighs approximately 70 pounds and has an approximate ship size of 10 inches high x 10 inches wide x 84 inches deep. Please note, this item will be shipped in a wrapped roll. Thank you for shopping with us!
I would like to order the green rug. Would that be considered the thyme rug?
Hello cpilliner, yes, the green nuLOOM Alexa 'My Soft and Plush' Shag Rug (8' x 10'), would be the thyme rug. Have a great day.
I would like to know about the formaldehyde also? Is it in the rug? cherry
Hello miapnigrelli, there is no formaldehyde in this rug. Thank you for shopping with us!
Do you have a sample piece of the gree rug. Is it a green gray or a bright green?
Hello runthecape, unfortunately we are unable to provide samples. The color is more of a bright green in my opinion. Please let us know if you have additional questions. Thanks for shopping with us.
is there formydahyde in carpet and if yes are the levels within govt guidlines?
Hello lola, there is no formaldehyde in this rug. Thank you for shopping with us!
Has anyone ordered the "gold" color? Is it more like an ivory or off white?
Hello kjackson, we appreciate your inquiry. The gold is more of an ivory. We hope this information has been helpful. Thank you for shopping with us!
Can the Alexa shag rug be steam cleaned?
Hello artin4d, this item is recommended to be professionally cleaned. Thank you for shopping with us.
Would the gold be more of a beige color?
Hello chellz, we appreciate your inquiry. Yes, the gold is closer to beige, We hope you have found this information helpful. Thank you for shopping with us!
Does this shag have loops?
Hello Karen, I hope your day is going well. This is looped. Thank you for shopping with us.
Why did you choose this product?
I wanted something soft and snuggly, I hope this is as advertised.
Looking for an area rug for a high traffic area that was neutral
Goes with roomdecor
Size, color, texture.
Bedroom re-do.
Color and size. No shipping charges.
i want to place it in my dining room under my table and chairs. i'm hoping it's looks nice.
reviews, size, pirce
Color, price and softness. Good reviews.
This rug will temporarily replace our pricey wool rug in the living room until our new puppy is house-broken...After that, we will put this rug in the bedroom, where it will go nicely. The price is good and the color selection is great! Plus I love shag rugs:)
wanted a plush solid color rug for my little girls room
I wanted a soft plush rug that wasn't too expensive. I have two dogs and two little kids so I needed something soft that if it got ruined I wouldn't be too upset.
I want something soft for my kids play room and hope this is the answer!
Good review, nice color. Looks lush and soft.
Son's room wanted Orange and price
looking for a white rug to go into my living room and I wanted the shag look.
Great price for the quality of material
need a large area rug. thought the shag was a unique feature to give the room a little personality.
Have been looking for white shag for sometime. Found one at Home Goods earlier in week, but it wasn't exactly what I wanted and a lot more expensive.
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French explorers and Jesuit priests came to Green Bay in the 1600s, making this area one of the first to be settled. It's only fitting, then, for the city to have a living-history museum, even if it's wedged between the Fox River, a busy highway and a correctional facility. But once on the grounds you're quickly transported back in time.
The park offers four main sections. The LaBaye area represents the earliest settlers and features a bark chapel, fur trader's cabin and maple sugaring house. The Fort Howard quadrant focuses on military buildings from 1836, when it served as a link in the chain of forts protecting America's interior river routes. The Ethnic Agriculture area contains an old Belgian farm, complete with animals, a 1905 cheese factory and a roadside chapel. And the Growing Community area showcases Green Bay trades during the latter half of the 19th century, such as printing and blacksmithing.
Costumed interpreters work several of the sites, although they're not always present off-season. If you visit then, you can look into all but four buildings, which have rare artifacts, and the entry fee is less. The park's Education Center contains a gift shop and related displays.


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Union Street students solve student problems as peer mediatorsBy Christian Avard
Staff Writer | January 10,2013Christian Avard / Staff Photo
Union Street Elementary School 5th grader Ryan Kirker, 11, (far left) and fellow peer mediators talk to Mrs. Elizabeths Hartys third-grade class about student peer mentoring. Sitting next to Kirker are fifith-grade peer mediators Kristos Iliopoulos, 11, Nadine Spiegel, 11 and Jessica Cerniglia, 10.SPRINGFIELD Fifth-graders Nadine Spigel, 11, Jessica Cerniglia, 10, Ryan Kirker, 11, and Kristos Iliopoulos, 11, are making a difference at Union Street Elementary School. They are four students who are trained in defusing potential conflicts in the school and on the playground.
On Monday, the peer mediators and their advisor, school counselor Jan Rounds, met with Elizabeth Hartys third-grade class, performed a skit, and discussed how they can help students when trouble arises.
We are not judges. We are not here to punish you or tell you what to do. We are here to help you resolve your conflict, Kirker said in a skit performed with peer mediators.
The students acted out a situation that would be hurtful, imagining a student who is left out of an activity by a friend. Kirker and Cerniglia asked Iliopoulos and Spigel what they could do to make the situation better. They each suggested ideas and eventually came to an agreement. The Union Street peer mediation program is in its 13th year at Union Street Elementary. According to faculty and staff, the program is effective in helping students solve problems in a constructive manner.
We have 12 peer mediators who advised in 23 situations. They sat down with kids and helped them figure things out on their own.
Rounds was introduced to student peer mediation at Riverside Middle School. She took the program model and worked with fifth-graders in their final year at Union Street Elementary.
Rounds teaches all fourth-graders in peer mediation and they receive certification. Teachers choose 12 students as mediators while those not chosen can volunteer as deputies.
The deputies monitor students on the playground, in classrooms, and in other areas where students congregate. They refer problematic situations to peer moderators who take over from there.
Even when students are not selected as peer moderators, many are eager to fill in as deputies. Being a deputy is voluntary but we have 70 deputies who are willing to help out. They also enjoy the responsibilities they have, Rounds added.
Having student mediators and deputies has made Union Street a supportive school for everyone. Knowing that fifth-graders are helping them find solutions contributes to a positive learning environment.
According to the fifth-graders who spoke to Hartys class, being a peer moderator is more than just helping students.
Its about leadership, helping people and teaching them skills to where they want to go, Iliopoulos said.
Cerniglia agreed.
It feels good because you know you can help people, she said.
Spigel added that mediation skills also help outside of the classroom and are empowering.
These skills can be used in families. They are good skills to know and I feel strong, Spigel said.
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Steve Atkinson Decides That When It Comes to Raw Milk, If You Can't Beat 'Em, Join 'Em
Last seek, Steve Atkinson, owner of Greenwood Farms in Newburg, MO, received a letter from the Missouri State Milk Board. It stated, he says, that "it was illegal to sell raw milk" from his four cows without a permit, as he had been doing for a few years, and in order to receive a permit, he'd need to have his milk inspected and build an automated bottling plant.
The letter wasn't a complete surprise, since Atkinson had heard of other sellers of raw milk receiving similar letters. So Atkinson (who is a contributor to this blog) had been doing some investigating, and discovered:
- Setting up a bottling plant "is expensive," costing on the order of $100,000 or more.
- No other dairy has been licensed to sell raw milk in Missouri, apparently because of a dearth of applications.
- The bacteria criteria for raw milk appear very doable, based on his own private tests of his dairy's milk.
Steve's reaction was different from the reaction of some farmers I have reported on previously who have been hit with government interference. "What everyone is doing in fighting the regulations is good, but that is not the tack we like to take."
His approach is to try to comply with the regulations. He has informed his approximately 25 raw milk customers that he is shutting down raw milk sales, probably until early 2008, when he will have the bottling plant completed. (The photo above shows milking at his farm.) He'll likely have to borrow the money to complete the plant.
"I have to keep my eye on my primary goal. If it takes me years to do that (because of tied up in fights with the local agriculture officials), I may defeat my goal."
His primary goal is to make his farm self-sufficient for his family, which includes two adult children who have moved back to the farm in recent years. And because he is 63 years old, he figures he doesn't have a huge amount of time.
To achieve self-sufficiency, he has calculated that he needs to increase the size of his dairy herd to 12 or 14 cows from the current four. "It's a huge opportunity," he says. "Being in a community with your adult children all living together is a unique thing."
Beyond self-sufficiency, he sees a clear business opportunity: to be Missouri's only licensed raw milk seller, making milk available to customers coming to his farm, as well as hopefully via farmers markets.
Until now, he's had to support his farming habit by working as a dentist. He recalls during the 1980s, when the AIDS epidemic grabbed public attention, there were calls for dentists to take aggressive steps to guard against patient infection, such as by repeatedly sterilizing all tools and wearing plastic gloves. Many dentists fought the push for new rules, but he decided to embrace them, and alert patients to his AIDS-fighting techniques. "My practice became one of the most successful in Missouri," he says.
He's hoping to apply the same principle to raw milk.
How will he guard against regulators who, once he has a permit, decide to make life difficult for him for whatever reason? Well, for one thing, "When they come to take samples for testing, we'll do split samples and send ours to our own lab." And if they harass him further, "I'll fight back," he says.
While Steve is optimistic about his new path, his 25 customers aren't. "They are angry at the government. Some of them want us to do a cowshare, so we won't be subject to inspection. But I think they might come after us for that. Besides, all the paperwork seems more than I want to get into."
So his customers will have to find other milk, or just wait a few months.
Is Steve being pragmatic, or naïve? Only time will tell for sure. Some of the New York farmers who have gotten into trouble over highly questionable listeria findings in their milk would probably think he's being naïve.
One thing that is clear, though, is that regulators around the country are clamping down, coming after smaller farms, rule books in hand, demanding compliance with all regulations, whether it be for pasteurization or slaughtering meat or registering under the National Animal Identification System (NAIS). The days of informal arrangements between farmers and customers may be gradually drawing to a close.
I'd just like to add something to the discussion on my previous posting about the comparison between laws regulating seat belts and food.
A lawyer once explained to me that in the legal scheme of things, driving is "a privilege." There is no constitutional or other legal guarantee of a right to drive a car. Thus, the government can issue or withdraw the privilege at its whim. From that perspective, seat belt laws become just another condition of receiving the privilege (in addition to maintaining inspection standards, driving safely, etc.)
I don't think the "promote the general welfare" clause of the Constitution's preamble is meant to supersede the subsequent contract clause I discussed. More likely "public safety" will be a key factor in the coming legal tests. As the "buy-direct" movement gathers steam, the argument for safety may unofrtunately carry more weight in the minds of legislators and judges, ever mindful of being blamed for not doing enough, despite what consumers themselves want.
God help us if, as David says, The days of informal arrangements between farmers and customers may be gradually drawing to a close. Sadly, he may be right, because those sorts of relationships have been scuttled in every possible way and in every possible venue, by power brokers who recognize that they either cant make money or cant exercise control when consumers and suppliers have a face-to-face relationship. I mourn the direction of America in that regard, and am terribly saddened that Americans seem blind to the change. I attribute it to being relatively well off financially, and lazy, which breeds complacency, and makes us an easy mark.
But food is differentits a flash point for concerns about freedom, causing them to draw a line in the sand over government dictates and business bullying. (Why else would Steve Atkinsons customers be angry despite the fact that Steves plan still provides them with the product they want?) I have high hopes that food freedom will become a lever that the grass roots uses to turn this trend around. I appreciate Steves position, and in fact believe that, at least in the short run, compliance is the safest route for him and his family. But its just that sort of compliance that feeds the bureaucrats, and strengthens the devil of third-party control of our lives.
A friend yesterday shook his head over the avalanche of civil lawsuits that have become an identifying mark of American life. What happened to just apologizing? He asked. Well, the answer is that systems cannot provide real human relationships, so their apologies cannot be trustedthey will never be more than paper (as is true, for that matter, of everything a system says). We must restore relationships if we are to become human again. Reinstituting local economies, local control, and face-to-face meetings with consumers and producers is a great way to get there. Promoting farmer-consumer relationships is a great way to get started. Relying on, or God help us, encouraging, distant third parties to certify, direct, and control, is 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
David: I disagree with your gloom concerning the demise of "informal" arrangements. Just because regulators are swarming does not mean that every small farmer can/should plop down six-figure outlays just so they can expect more of the same discretionary enforcement initiatives, now with much more to lose. There are different compliance approaches. One of them certainly is, assuming you have the resources, to ante up the entrance fee and hope for the best. I certainly hope Steve succeeds in his approach, and I'm the last to criticize him. Indeed, it might be the way I would choose to do it in the circumstances. We can't give up the fight for more choice at lower levels of cost and regulation, however. The rules, and their often-arbitrary enforcement, must bend to the twin realities that the food choices which industry brings us are sickening, and the food choices that have been available since the dawn of agriculture (and before) are simple, reliable and healthful. In fact, with modern technological aids of refrigeration, stainless steel, and testing, the simple ways are better than ever.
Steve's customers are probably not only upset at the disruption to their supply, but when Steve is ready to sell again, he will undoubtedly have to raise the price of the milk to help cover the cost of this equipment. Just like everything the government tries to "fix" it ends up costing consumers more money and does nothing to fix the REAL problems. "Grass Roots" takes on a whole new meaning when you apply it to the food movement.
Totally off topic..were burning down in Southern California. Anna lives in San Diego County. Shes right in the midst of the evacuation areas. This morning I heard, in one specific area, they were evacuating 250 people.
Anna..I hope you and your family are O.K.
Yes, I also hope that you and your loved ones are safe, Anna.
And my heart goes out to all the people in San Diego County that have lost their homes, or been evacuated. I lived in Poway for 10 years, and we never had any fires remotely as bad as the ones that are now raging.
I fail to see how this can be a good thing. This will only embolden regulators and threaten the raw milk supplies of other MO consumers. Expensive regulations such as these have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with anti-competitiveness and raising the bar to entry. He is gaming the system. What he is doing will pay off big if the state shuts down his competition, leaving him standing as the only supplier.
Thanks very much for the worries about me and my family during the San Diego County fires. The air was getting really bad Monday and my husband is out of the country at a protein society meeting, so when the evacuation call came (I didn't realize it was volutary at that time), my son and I, plus the two cats, and the few things I could fit in one of our (small) cars, did evacuate for two nights to a location a few miles north and closer to the coast. We went with another family and their animals to their parents' very small condo; I was glad to have the company and haven. We came home yesterday to a intact property only covered in soot and ash, as the fire stopped its advance on the eastern edge of my community. But at one point there were predictions it would burn to the coast and our home could have been right in the path. Of course so many others are not so fortunate and will have a lot of work rebuilding their homes and communities over the next few years. If the weather remains good, the worst of the damage is over, though the fights with the insurance companies will start soon, I'm sure. I've seen it happen with others I know who lost homes in previous fires.
I had a laugh when I spoke to my mother yesterday. She said my aunt figured even in evacuation I had grabbed my organic egg supply on the way out and was serving them up to everyone for breakfast. Yup!!! I even brought the raw milk and butter.
Anna.Im glad to hear all is well. Today and tomorrow Murrieta and Temecula schools are closed. The air quality is awful. Smoke from three different fires has accumulated in our community. The sky has been haunting. Hopefully by the weekend, the fires will be under control and the air pollution will diminish.
Oh the life in Southern California: fires, earthquakes and droughts.
Oct. 26, 2007 RAW MILK
Missouri Statute # 196.935 guarantees that a person may buy and have delivered for his own use raw milk or cream from a farm.
The Atkinsons are the third family to be told, in 2007, that they should not sell the ungraded raw milk to which MO citizens are entitled, by law. The first family was warned in June 2007, the second in early October 2007, and now, late October 2007.
The Missouri Milk Boards position is that the raw milk referred to in the statute is actually supposed to be graded milk produced under regulation (rules and directives). Read the law and see for yourself.
Alternately, the Missouri Milk Board claims that all raw milk which is not graded is considered Manufacturing Grade milk to be sold to processors such as cheese factories. This doesnt make sense, since the citizens who are entitled to buy for their own use- their raw milk and cream from the farm, arent manufacturers.
In addition, the Missouri Milk Board refers to two non-binding Attorney General Opinions in setting its policies. Neither of these opinions denies a citizens right to buy ungraded raw milk or cream from a farm in fact one clearly reinforces that right. Neither opinion even implies that raw milk or cream from a farm should or must be graded. One opinion states that graded milk must be produced under regulations. Nothing wrong with that. The other opinion holds that although citizens may buy and have delivered raw milk or cream from the farm premises where it originated, the farmer may not distribute from a separate location such as a farmers market.
In all cases the basic legal principle is that a statute controls or holds sway over any regulations. If the Missouri Milk Board has promulgated regulations which contradict the statute, the statute is what citizens and enforcement agencies are supposed to follow. The statute is the law, voted on by the elected officials of the legislature and signed by the governor. The Milk Board is overstepping its authority when it tries to obstruct legal commerce and by denying citizens the right to follow their law.
The Missouri Milk Board has no policing power, but can refer a case to the County Prosecutor (via the County Health Department), or to the Attorney General, either of whom may bring charges of misdemeanor.
WE COULD USE a new non-binding Attorney Generals Opinion. This is posed in a question format (which must be asked by someone of significance such as a legislator), and is answered by the Attorney General. The question to be asked should be, In Statute 196.935, are Missouri citizens entitled to buy and have delivered for their own use, ungraded raw milk and cream directly from a farm?
The Atkinsons have worked hard towards obtaining their Grade A standard, and have almost completed the requirements. It is unfortunate indeed that the Missouri Milk Board claims that in the meantime, their customers must be denied their legal supply of ungraded raw milk.


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|Prototypical build for a tight end. A big target with fairly reliable hands. Knows how to use his body to shield defenders and give the quarterback a nice target. Decent speed for a tight end; won't stretch the field but has enough speed to make things happen after the catch. A great red zone target. Has the size and strength to become a dominant blocker.
|Blocking technique needs work. The potential is there, but he was mostly used as a receiver at Notre Dame. Lacks the elite athleticism that some teams prefer in tight ends these days. Suffered a separated shoulder which required surgery prior to 2010 season. Missed most of 2010 season with severe hamstring injury (muscle detached from bone) which also required surgery.
|If not for the injury concerns, Rudolph would be a 1st-round lock. He's a rare blend of size, strength and speed which makes him a very intriguing prospect and could be a steal if he falls into the 2nd or 3rd round. He reminds me of Jason Witten – a player who lacks the elite physical tools to stretch the field, but is a very reliable receiver who knows how to use his size and strength to his advantage. If teams aren't concerned about his injuries, he could still wind up in the 1st round.
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It's definitely possible that one or both could wind up in the top five, but I think they'll ultimately fall a little further.
The Panthers aren't taking a quarterback, despite some mock drafts linking them with Cam Newton. The Cardinals may consider it, but I think they'll pass as well. Ken Whisenhunt really wants to bring in a veteran, and I think they will to appease Larry Fitzgerald as well.
That leaves the Bills. And after addressing their strongest position in the 1st round last year by taking C.J. Spiller, it's anyone's guess what they may do this time around. Newton and Gabbert are possibilities, but I think they'll lean toward the best available player – A.J. Green or Patrick Peterson.
Never too early to look ahead: 2011 NFL Draft Board
Its never too early to look ahead to next year. So with that in mind, lets unveil DraftAce's first 2011 draft board. We've ranked the top 32 draft-eligible players (seniors, juniors and redshirt sophomores) and have compared them to a current NFL player. Obviously they won't all live up to these expectations, but think of it as a "best case scenario" comparison.
1. Ryan Mallett – JR – QB – Arkansas
Mallett certainly looks the part (6'6″) and has a rocket arm. He was inconsistent at times in 2009, but it was his first year leading the Razorbacks' offense after transferring from Michigan. Expect big things from him in 2010. NFL Comparison: Joe Flacco
2. Cameron Heyward – SR – DE – Ohio State
The son of Craig "Ironhead" Heyward was a 1st-round lock, potentially as the top defensive end selected, had he entered this year's draft. He returned to Ohio State, however, where he'll continue to dominate as a defensive end/tackle 'tweener. He has the size to play in a 3-4 scheme, but also has the athleticism to be a compete pass rusher/run stuffer in a 4-3. NFL Comparison: Mario Williams
3. Robert Quinn – JR – DE North Carolina
Quinn could be the premier pass rusher in next year's draft. He terrorized ACC quarterbacks as a sophomore in 2009 and with defensive line mate Marvin Austin back for the 2010 season he should continue to improve. NFL Comparison: Tamba Hali
4. A.J. Green – JR – WR – Georgia
Green burst onto the scene as a true freshman in 2008 and continued to dominate the SEC in '09. At 6'4″, 208 pounds he has the size to be a true No. 4 receiver. NFL Comparison: Randy Moss
5. Gabe Carimi – SR – OT – Wisconsin
Carimi took over for Joe Thomas as a freshman in 2007 and lived up to expectations from day one. The similarities to Thomas eerie. They have a similar build and a remarkably similar skill set. Both have the athleticism to excel as pass blockers but also play with a mean streak that allows them to dominate in the running game. NFL Comparison: Joe Thomas
6. Patrick Peterson – JR – CB – LSU
Peterson has the size of a free safety (6'1″, 211 pounds) but the athleticism to a shutdown corner. If he fulfills expectations as a junior, he could be one of the highest-rated corners to enter the draft in a number of years. NFL Comparison: Charles Woodson
7. Blaine Gabbert – JR – QB – Missouri
With just one year under his belt as a starter, we still have a lot to learn about Gabbert. As a sophomore, he looked like a future star. He has an NFL body with a strong arm and more than adequately filled the shoes of Missouri legend Chase Daniel. NFL Comparison: Phillip Rivers
8. Marvin Austin – SR – DT – North Carolina
Austin turned down a guaranteed stop in the 2010 1st-round because he wanted to return to school to have an Ndamukong Suh-like senior year. Its a lofty goal, you have to admire his dedication. If he comes close to fulfilling his own expectations he'll find himself in the early half of the 1st round.
NFL Comparison: Kyle Williams
9. Greg Romeus – SR – DE – Pittsburgh
Romeus is yet another player who had a chance to come off the board in the 1st round in 2009, but elected to return to school. Romeus isn't strong as Heyward or as quick as Quinn, but he's a complete play who can excel against the run and the pass.
NFL Comparison: Justin Tuck
10. Jared Crick – JR – DT – Nebraska
Ndamukong Suh wasn't the only force to be reckoned with on the Cornhuskers defensive line in 2009. Crick obviously has a ways to go before he can be compared to Suh, but he has a similar skill set and may actually be better against the run than his former teammate.
NFL Comparison: Darnell Dockett
11. Andrew Luck – SO – QB – Stanford
With Toby Gerhart out of the picture in Stanford, the Cardinal offense will no focus on Luck. He had flashes of greatness as a redshirt-freshman in 2009 and should take major strides this season now that the offense will be built around his arm.
NFL Comparison: Aaron Rodgers
12. Allen Bailey – SR – DT – Miami FL
After a surprising two-year drought, Miami could return to the 1st round in 2011. Bailey is an athletic three-technique tackle who excels at busting up plays in the backfield. He led the Hurricanes with 11 tackles for loss and seven sacks in 2009.
NFL Comparison: Kevin Williams
13. Michael Floyd – JR – WR – Notre Dame
Golden Tate received much of the attention this past season, but Floyd is the better pro prospect. He has elite size and strength for a receiver and enough speed to stretch the field. He'll make his presence felt immediately as a red zone target.
NFL Comparison: Andre Johnson
14. Ryan Williams – SO – RB – Virginia Tech
As a redshirt freshman in 2009 Williams was arguably the nation's best running back, yet flew under the radar due to Virginia Tech's somewhat disappointing season. He posted five 150-yard games and dominated and finished 5th in the nation in rushing. If he builds upon that success he'll find himself in the Heisman race and in the mix to be the top available running back in the 2011 draft.
NFL Comparison: DeAngelo Williams
15. Von Miller – SR – LB – Texas A&M
Miller burst onto the scene in 2009 playing a hybrid DE/OLB position for the Aggies, essentially acting as a pass-rush specialist. He led the nation with 16.5 sacks and ranked among the leaders in tackles for loss as well.
NFL Comparison: Shaun Phillips
16. Rahim Moore – JR – S – UCLA
Had Moore been eligible to enter the 2010 draft it would be him, not Earl Thomas, pushing Eric Berry for spot atop the draft boards at safety. Like Thomas, Moore is a ball-hawking free safety but has the size to help out against the run as well.
NFL Comparison: Kerry Rhodes
17. Bruce Carter – SR – LB – North Carolina
Carter will be a tough prospect to judge next season because he's undersized. At only 225 pounds certain teams will scratch him off their list from the start. However, you can't deny the fact that he's a playmaker. He'll fit nicely into someone's 4-3 scheme at weakside linebacker.
NFL Comparison: Thomas Davis
18. Julio Jones – JR – WR – Alabama
Jones has the size and athleticism needed to excel at the next level. However, after a dominant freshman season he regressed in 2009. He caught just four touchdown passes in 2009 and had just one 100-yard game. He'll need to bounce back in a big way in order to hang on to this slot in the top 32.
NFL Comparison: Randy Moss
19. Greg Jones – SR – LB – Michigan State
Jones is another player that cracks the top 32 based on potential rather than production. He's already an effective against the run, but as an inside linebacker he needs to develop his skills in coverage. He has the athleticism of a top-10 pick, but he needs to become more disciplined to live up to his full potential.
NFL Comparison: DeMeco Ryans
20. Jake Locker – SR – QB – Washington
Numerous draftniks have Locker as the top-rated quarterback, but I'm not sold just yet. He's a potential 1st-round pick based on potential, but he's been just an average collegiate quarterback to this point in his career. His athleticism is unmatched by anyone else in this draft class, but that's a small piece of the puzzle. He's reckless with the football (11 interceptions) and has completed just 53 percent of his career pass attempts.
NFL Comparison: Donovan McNabb
21. Deunta Williams – SR – S – North Carolina
Williams is a ball-hawking free safety but also has the size to play strong safety in the pros. That versatility will help his draft stock next season and makes him the top senior prospect at safety.
NFL Comparison: Darren Sharper
22. Nate Solder – SR – OT – Colorado
Solder came to Boulder as tight end but switched to tackle as a sophomore in 2008. He's still developing as a left tackle, but his upside is unlimited. At 6'9″ he has the size and athleticism to dominate the position for years to come. With an impressive senior year he could easily climb into the top five.
NFL Comparison: D'Brickashaw Ferguson
23. Chris Galippo – JR – LB – USC
Galippo may be the next great linebacker to come from Southern Cal. Like the rest of his teammates, he didn't quite live up to expectations in 2009, but the bulk of the Trojans' defense return for 2010 and big things are expected from the unit which is led by Galippo. He's an instinctive linebacker who will only continue to get better with experience.
NFL Comparison: James Laurinaitis
24. Jamie Harper -JR – RB – Clemson
Harper is a bit of wildcard at this point, having only played in a backup role to this point in his career. He was brilliant as C.J. Spiller's backup in 2009 and will become the focal point of the Tigers' offense this season. He's a powerful downhill runner (5'11″, 230 pounds) who has the strength to carry the load at the next level.
NFL Comparison: Michael Turner
25. Nate Potter – JR – OT – Boise State
Like Ryan Clady in 2008, it will be tough to judge Potter until the offseason workouts. He has dominated Boise State's WAC opponents, but its a weak conference and he simply isn't facing the talent which he will see in the NFL. He certainly appears to have the athleticism to take his game to the next level though, and his stock could skyrocket over of the course of the next year.
NFL Comparison: Michael Oher
26. Kyle Rudolph – JR – TE – Notre Dame
Notre Dame hasn't exactly churned out elite skill position players in recent years, but that could change in 2011 as both Michael Floyd and Rudolph could come off the board in the 1st round. Rudolph has the size and athleticism to develop into a well-rounded tight end who can dominate as both a blocker and receiver in the NFL.
NFL Comparison: Jason Witten
27. DeAndre McDaniel – SR – S – Clemson
2011 figures to bring us another deep class of safeties. McDaniels toyed with the idea of entering this year's draft class, but wisely stayed in school and could find himself in the 1st round in 2011. He has the size to play strong safety, but has the ball skills of a free safety – a combination which will help his value immensely.
NFL Comparison: Brandon Meriweather
28. Marcell Dareus – JR – DE – Alabama
Dareus is a stout lineman who excels in run defense, but also contributes as a pass rusher. He led the Crimson Tide in sacks in 2009 and they're expecting big things from him this upcoming season. He's a versatile prospect who could play end in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme and may also be able to transition to tackle in the 4-3.
NFL Comparison: Ty Warren
29. DaQuan Bowers – JR – DE – Clemson
Bowers has as much potential as anyone eligible to enter the 2011 draft class. He's started from day one since coming to Clemson as a highly touted recruit in 2008. Bowers has just 4 sacks through his first two seasons, but we're expecting big things from him in 2009. NFL Comparison: Trent Cole
30. Jerrell Powe – DT – Mississippi
As more and more teams switch to the 3-4 defense, the value of nose tackles is starting to skyrocket. Players such as Powe figure to see their stock rise far higher than similar players in years past. He's a physical presence on the interior line, capable of taking on multiple blockers and anchoring a defensive line.
NFL Comparison: Vince Wilfork
31. Austin Pettis – SR – WR – Boise State
Pettis could become the first skill-position player selected in the 1st round from Boise State. He has the size and speed to take his game to the next level, but like anyone from Boise, he'll need to prove he can compete at the highest level. As a team, the Broncos have earned the respect of the nation, but there's still a lack of talent in the WAC which doesn't fully prepare players for the NFL the way a BCS conference does.
NFL Comparison: Sidney Rice
32. Casey Matthews – SR – LB – Oregon
One thing I learned from scouting Clay Matthews in 2009: never bet against the Matthews family. Like his other brother, Casey doesn't have elite physical talents but he has become the leader of the Ducks defense and has the instincts to excel at the next level.
NFL Comparison: Paul Posluszny
- 2011 Draft Board
- A.J. Green
- Allen Bailey
- Andrew Luck
- Austin Pettis
- Blaine Gabbert
- Bruce Carter
- Cameron Heyward
- Casey Matthews
- Chris Galippo
- DaQuan Bowers
- DeAndre McDaniel
- Deunta Williams
- Gabe Carimi
- Greg Jones
- Greg Romeus
- Jaime Harper
- Jake Locker
- Jared Crick
- Jerrell Powe
- Julio Jones
- Kyle Rudolph
- Marcell Dareus
- Marvin Austin
- Michael Floyd
- Nate Potter
- Nate Solder
- Patrick Peterson
- Rahim Moore
- Robert Quinn
- Ryan Mallett
- Ryan Williams
- Von Miller


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Residents call Ramona solar farm an eyesore
Ramona plan could set precedent for future proposals
A solar energy farm set to rise in Ramona is generating widespread opposition from residents who say it's too close to their homes and will disrupt bucolic valley scenery.
The issue goes before the county Board of Supervisors Wednesday morning, and its decision may set the benchmark for siting large solar panel facilities in semi-rural areas rather than desert locales.
The proposal from Sol Orchard, LLC calls for 43 acres of rotating panels on a 110-acre site at 1650 Warnock Road.
The Carmel-based company has approval from county planners for the major use permit needed to build the roughly $20 million facility. But that's being challenged by two community groups and an environmental law firm representing construction laborers.
Sol Orchard's proposal also is being watched because supervisors and other local elected officials increasingly encourage development of solar power generation, including installation of panels on commercial and residential rooftops.
A similarly sized solar array being built by Sol Orchard in Valley Center also won approval from county planners. An appeal of that project's permit was dropped and thus never went before the supervisors.
How they respond to Ramona's concerns, which center around location and aesthetics such as view disruption and site screening, could signal what will be allowed in unincorporated areas that have a significant population such as Ramona, home to about 40,000 people.
"This is a solar factory being put in the middle of the community and close to half of our residents," said Jim Piva, chairman of the Ramona Community Planning Group, which opposes the project. "It's the least optimal spot, and that's where the beef is."
Sol Orchard has two other projects in the county permit pipeline, a five-megawatt facility in Boulevard and a two-megawatt proposal in Alpine.
The company has a deal with San Diego Gas & Electric to buy the power, and the 7.5 megawatts the Ramona project would generate is enough to provide the power needs of several thousand homes.
Chris Brown, a land-use consultant working with Sol Orchard, said location is crucial.
"They need to be near a substation and have access to feeder (electrical) lines," he said. "The other thing is that wherever they are built is where the power stays. The electricity this produces stays within Ramona."
The panels range from 8 to 11.5 feet in height and would face east in the morning and west in the afternoon.
The Ramona planning group, an advisory body to the county, voted 8-0 against the project in May. Members concluded the solar farm's size was incompatible with the neighborhood, takes away prime farmland and would be a "blight" on the area.
The county does not have a solar power ordinance specifying where such facilities should be located. Instead, its regulations allow solar farms on agriculturally zoned lands if the builder obtains a major use permit, which lays down a wide array of conditions.
Piva said lack of a solar siting policy is another aspect of his group's concerns.
"The county has not been clear on its standards," he said. "And this one is just being shoved down our throats."


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After selling their former videogame development studio, Wanako Games, to Vivendi Inc (Paris: VIV) for $10m, serial entrepreneurs Esteban and Tiburcio founded Atakama Labs in 2009. With seed funding secured, their company creates online games using a free-to-play model that requires gamers to pay only for add-on components that enhance the game (e.g. virtual goods).
A native of Argentina, Esteban graduated with honors from the University of Virginia with a degree in Economics and Foreign Affairs. After graduation, he worked as an investment banking analyst for JP Morgan in New York City, and then as an Associate at Innova Capital, an Argentine private equity fund. A fellow Argentine, Tiburcio started working for one of the country's first Internet Service Providers fifteen years ago, while developing a soccer website for fans in his spare time. The website utilized technologies that were highly innovative at the time such as web-chat, real time audio, and data streamlining. Ultimately, the site became so popular that it received more site visits than local newspapers, and garnered international media attention.
Esteban and Tiburcio met through mutual connections at a time when Esteban was working as CEO of a seed-stage venture capital fund and Tiburcio was spearheading the Latin American efforts of a U.S.-Hispanic interactive agency. Realizing a shared passion for entrepreneurship and an excitement about the online gaming space, the two decided to leave their jobs and start a videogame company. They moved to Chile for its political and economic stability and co-founded Wanako Games in 2002. The company grew to 50 talented employees who produced videogames for consoles, and won awards like the 2006 Game of the Year for Xbox Live Arcade. In 2006, Esteban and Tiburcio sold Wanako Games to the biggest online gaming publisher in the world, Vivendi Games (currently Activision Blizzard). And while the entrepreneurs are no longer involved with Wanako, it remains active in Santiago today, proof of the entrepreneurs' ability to build a self-sustaining enterprise.
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Rutland man, caught on camera, arrested for larcenyBy Susan Smallheer
Staff Writer | May 04,2013BRATTLEBORO A Rutland man was arrested in Brattleboro after his clear picture taken by a surveillance camera during the robbery of a gas station was posted on social media sites.
Robert P. Johnston, 27, was arrested at a Putney Road motel and charged with stealing $160 from the Shell station on Canal Street on Monday night, according to court documents.
Johnston was on furlough and considered on escape status, for a similar conviction, said Windham County Deputy States Attorney Steve Brown. He was arraigned Wednesday in Brattleboro criminal court.
Brown said Johnston had been convicted in Bennington County for a similar offense in 2012. He has earlier convictions for forgery in Rutland County, he said, and as a result he was charged with being a habitual offender. Brown said he had six previous felony convictions.
Brown said Johnston had been staying at the Americas Best Motel on Putney Road, and once the surveillance photo from the Shell station was posted, Brattleboro police were able to go to the motel and arrest him.
The community aided us, helped us, in apprehending him, said the prosecutor.
Brown declined to say how the police made the arrest so quickly. The photos showed Johnston quite plainly.
Johnston is charged with larceny from a person, a felony, he said. Johnston allegedly reached into the open register and grabbed the money and no weapons were used.
Johnston is being held without bail on the larceny from a person charge, he said, but because he was on escape status, the Department of Corrections had placed a hold on him anyway.MORE IN Southern VermontBENNINGTON — Ask author and Bennington College graduate Charlotte Silver if the title of... Full StoryPresident Calvin Coolidge was remembered in all sorts of ways Saturday on the 143rd anniversary... Full StoryPresident Calvin Coolidge was remembered in all sorts of ways Saturday on the 143rd anniversary... Full Story
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If the windows in your Chevy are steaming up and you're not in the backseat, you just may have a problem. Or if you notice coolant dripping from under the glovebox on the passenger's toe board, no doubt about it, you are rotten to the core.
When a heater core goes bad there are two temporary solutions to remedy the problem. One is to pour some AlumAseal into the radiator and hope it circulates throughout the system and plugs the leak. We only recommend doing that if you're on a road trip and don't have access to a garage. The other option is to remove the heater hoses altogether and plug the holes in the manifold and water pump. This is a more permanent fix, but what about when it gets cold and you want to warm up the inside of the vehicle a bit?
Or what if you need to defrost the windshield? Worse yet, what if you are have overheating issues and need to turn on the heater to dissipate some of the engine heat? Hopefully that never happens to any of us, but bypassing the heater core is not much of an option either. The only real solution is to break out the tool set and replace the core.
It sounds easy enough and it really is, but it does take a bit of time just to gain access to the heater core. It's tucked up under the dash and requires the removal of several parts in order to access it. Let's stop talking about it and disassemble this '68 Chevelle and replace the core.
After lifting the hood we noticed that the prior owner had removed the heater hoses and plugged the manifold and water pump. Every once in awhile it does get cold in Southern California and having a heater to use is a nice thing.
First the A/C system is completely evacuated. Most radiator shops are equipped to do this. The reason the A/C system is drained is because on '69 and older Chevrolets, the A/C lines are routed through the passenger-side inner fender panel. From 1970 on up, it's not an issue. After the system is drained, remove the battery and battery tray.
Our next step is to remove the inner fender panel from the vehicle. All you have to do is remove all the bolts and wrestle with it a bit in order to get it out.
Here's the reason we had to remove the inner fender panel. The bolts that hold the evaporator and blower motor cover on the firewall need to be removed. There's no other way to gain access to some of these bolts.
This is a shot of the firewall once the bolts have been removed. There's no need to remove the blower motor cover, just the bolts. The bolts that hold the cover in the engine bay also hold the cover and fan on the opposite side underneath the dash.
Now we go inside the vehicle and start disassembling the ductwork under the dash.
The glove box gets in the way, so we removed it as well.


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After trying both this clip and the Sporti wire clip model, I'll probably be wearing the wire clip more often.This was second clip purchased (after Sporti wire clip model) to help deal with Bromine allergy in new lap pool. Both clips have done a good job keeping water out my nose and stayed on for hour+ of swimming laps without the need for tightening or adjustment.The Speedo clip, however, got a bit tight and uncomfortable after 30 minutes or so. I have a medium-sized nose for adult male, and it might be more comfortable on others (though I've read similar issues in other reivews).
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Love how this clip fit into the nose bridge of my goggles. Keeps it in place perfectly. I won't use any other kind of clip and always have backups in my bag in case I lose one.
I swim laps at least 4 times a week. This nose clip stays put! Water does not get in your nose. I do not have to stop for adjustments like I did with the previous one I used. It is comfortable to wear. Since it is clear it is not as noticeable. The only problem with this nose clip is if you tend to open it too far with your fingers it will break. All you have to do is remember to just slid it on over your nose.
I got this to help with my backstroke flip turn. It works wonderfully. It stays in place and doesn't hurt much after doing even a mile of backstroke. Because of it I can do a proper backstroke flip turn and dolphin kick out past the flags before surfacing. Because of the bright color, I can find it easily on the deck and don't worry about people stepping on it.I wish it came with an optional string to put around my neck. On the other hand, it stays put really well so I don't worry about dropping it while I'm swimming.
I purchased one of these at a local store and ended up cracking it by trying to pinch too tightly. I ordered another through Swim Outlet and was more careful with it. Has done the trick so I ordered two more.
First of all let me say that those people who gave bad review did not know what they were talking about .I love this nose clip,I have been very happy with speedo.I swim two days a week .Can't breath on my own so I need to use a nose clip and I had no problems with it. Will buy again .
The guy from Colorado must not know how to put on the nose clip. I swim a lot of backstroke and use nose clips all the time. This is one of the best nose clips I've used! Fits nose profile, more snug than previous Speedo models, less likely to move around or pop off while I swim.
I have had sinus surgery and need to wear nose clips now when swimming. I have tried so many different types of clips and none would stay on when I was doing my workout. HOWEVER, this clip goes on and stays on. I will say it is very tight, but it does work and I have not missed a workout since.
After trying other brands, this one seems to do the trick. Out of desperation, I bought this at a local sports shop. I liked it so much, I ordered a back-up through Swim Outlet. Nose clips are not exactly comfortable but this one seems to adjust well to my narrow nose and keeps the water out when making open turns while doing back stroke. I bought the gray so it could be seen more easily.
These slide all over the place. They will only stay on for a lap or two. A complete waste of money.
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