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- Pabitra Mukhopadhyay
- Kolkata , West Bengal
- India
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He, she or s/he? Should languages be made gender neutral or be left on their own to preserve literary integrity?
My wife hates to be called an actress. She prefers 'actor' despite being reminded that semantically actor is not a gender neutral word. She maintains that words like author, actor, and doctor stress primarily on profession not gender.
I have a sneaking feeling she is feminist.
Feminists have long argued that sexist language can have real world consequences for gender relations and the relative status of men and women, and recent research suggests that grammatical gender can shape how people interpret the world around them along gender lines.
But language is as much a communication tool as literature. Some argue that steward and stewardess are distinct but equal terms and dropping one for another takes away the beauty of literary expression.
Interestingly there are a number of genderless languages, genderless in the less that these have no grammatical gender but have specific words to recognize gender. There are also natural gender languages which have evolved through a constant process on conscious neutralization of grammatical genders.
Things start to get serious when studies of Jennifer L. Prewitt-Freilino, T. Andrew Caswell and Emmi K. Laakso on the gendering of languages come to fore where after investigating 111 languages of the world their findings suggest that countries where gendered languages are spoken evidence less gender equality compared to countries with other grammatical gender systems. Furthermore, countries where natural gender languages are spoken demonstrate greater gender equality, which may be due to the ease of creating gender symmetric revisions to instances of sexist language.
Norway and Sweden show Global Gender Gap Indices of .82 and .81 (1 being ideally gender equal) and both these countries have natural gender languages. Yemen scores a GGG index of .46 with a gendered language.
Do you agree with this co-relation?
Closing Statement from Pabitra Mukhopadhyay
If language is supposed to be anything that reflects human consciousness, it needs to account for the discrimination towards women at one point or other. Societies may work consciously to change it towards gender neutrality or simply gender neutrality should impact it in meaningful ways. It may not be conclusive at this stage what changes what but this discussion leaves ample indications that it may not be wise just to ignore it.
Apr 1 2013: It is not the language that holds the bias but the users.
Apr 2 2013: Exactly. That is why users change, manipulate and discriminate the semantics. The user mindset is retained in languages.Apr 7 2013: This seems sort of true, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone demonstrated that a gendered language can conduce gender bias. If you're using a language that correlates different things to different genres, that's likely to have some sort of influence. Perhaps especially on children.Mar 20 2013: In response to a bunch of the comments in this thread, I think this is worth considering: Our languages shape our identities and how we perceive the world, so our labels are extremely important. I always write "their"/"they" and my more progressive professors (several of them have very postmodern-derived approaches, which is wonderful) take no issue with it, because languages are continually growing. Not everyone identifies as "male" or "female" so these terms exclude people who do not shove themselves into either of the two linguistically available boxes, nor are all who identify as "female" identical. It is a lot like saying "black" and "white" when these terms mean noting essential as no two people who fall under the category "white" have identical skin colouring, and that "grey area" between albino and ebony encompasses just about everyone. Basically, to use language to assert that difference is important maintains the social significance of difference, and therefore sexism and racism and every other bigotry are permitted to persist. I would certainly not advocate for changing it in books already written though, because our history shapes who we are, it's nothing to be ashamed of unless we don't grow from it.Mar 19 2013: Most of the languages prevalent in the world were evolved and developed many years ago. Sociological and cultural factors might have played an influential role in shaping these languages. As a result, we have a wide array of languages with diversity. Some have different verbs for different genders(e.g. Marathi/Hindi), some have different nouns/adjectives for different genders(Sanskrit), some are indifferent(Japanese).The beauty of languages lies in their differences and it should be retained.There must be a certain specific reason why these languages evolved this way. Unless the words are offensive or disrespectful, they should not be changed. So I think, it is not about language but attitude of society to perceive people on the basis of their gender. It's the question of gender inequality and not of the language.
Mar 19 2013: Good point Amruta. May I give you two points of thought?
1. Evolution is an ongoing process. So it is supposed to be working on languages today. It is not that languages evolved many years ago and then froze.
2. Evolution normally does not carry forward junk. Which fails by evolution gets extinct. Why that should not be applicable for languages?
Mar 20 2013: Agree. Some languages become extinct because they are not flexible or too difficult to learn. Languages should evolve as per the changing times. But essence of languages -say, some basic grammar rules or some basic expressions/words should not completely be lost in this process. There must be some experts studying languages and changes occurred to them in different levels of evolution. So even if the language becomes extinct or not spoken by many any more,we can have knowledge of how a specific language was when in its original form.
In the above "He, She or S/he context", I think, all languages should evolve in the way that users will have the option to use either gender related words or neutral words.Mar 21 2013: Pabitra and Amruta,
You write Pabitra..."Evolution is an ongoing process. So it is supposed to be working on languages..."
Does the process of evolution actually "work" on any particular element of evolution? Or do things simply evolve, as Amruta suggests...."Languages should evolve as per the changing times".
I agree with you Pabitra, that the process of evolution probably does not "carry forward junk", and, "which fails by evolution gets extinct". Don't you think that automatically happens with words and language use?
Like, you know like, we have new words becoming like dominant, like all the time, like you know???
I'm noticing that students coming to the U.S from other countries, are picking up the filler word "like", as a normal part of English!
Mar 21 2013: Colleen, evolution can be seen both ways. When the focus is on the system and it's state and we look for a reason why it changed, evolution comes as a process; distinct from the system. But when we focus on the change the system can be said to be evolving. I'd prefer the first view simply because in that view system and environments are recognized as separate entities and we become careful as part of the system, civilization in this case, how we interact with it.
When language is a system it's changes are attributed to the environments and it's evolution can preferably seen as a force acting on it, changing it bit by bit, by trial and error, keeping the 'useful' and rejecting the 'useless'.
Things get complicated, however, when both the system and the environment start to modify each other. We call evolution 'natural' when the influence is from environment to the system so when both elements start modifying each other, the evolution cannot be called natural.
Amruta argues in favor of retention of diversity whereas in reality we are seeing homogenization of cultures. I have a feeling languages are changing subtly towards homogenization. The core of my debate wants to examine if the conscious neutralization of genders in languages will interfere with the natural evolution of language. I mean should we change language to facilitate a social gender enlightenment or rather leave language on its own and expect social gender enlightenment to work on language, which is a normal or natural way how languages evolve.
Sumana minds being called an actress on account of her certain experience in social context which she possibly dislikes. But if there is enough social enlightenment along gender lines may be Sumana's great grand daughter will not mind being called an actress. If by then we have neutralized the language along gender lines she will be left with neutral words like blogger, consultant, doctor and actor.
Will you consider that a loss or good riddance?Mar 22 2013: I am aware of evolution Pabitra, and I agree that it is a process. I believe, and it seems to be thought of, as a natural process.....as you insightfully say...it changes bit by bit...trial and error...keeping the useful and rejecting the useless.....I totally agree.
I do not perceive Amruta arguing in favor of retention of diversity. In fact, Amruta clearly states..."Languages should evolve as per the changing times", which seems to be the same thing you are suggesting?
Your question, as stated...."Should languages be made gender neutral or be left on their own to preserve literary integrity?", and your question above..."should we change language to facilitate a social gender enlightenment..." suggests to me the idea that the language is manipulated to "make" something happen....maybe awareness of equality?
When we try to "maike" something happen, rather than allowing something to take a natural course, it doesn't seem like evolution, because I do not perceive natural evolution as being manipulated. Besides that, I am a very practical person and cannot imagine the time and energy it would take to change ALL languages!!!!! That seems VERY overwhelming!
Mar 22 2013: Colleen, take climate change for example. It is hard to believe that something as grand as nature can be effected and modified by our seemingly puny actions. But the scientific community's consensus is that is exactly what has happened.
I agree that it seems very overwhelming but many countries have neutralized their languages gender wise.
Pls check this.
http://lib.scnu.edu.cn/ngw/ngw/xwbk/The%20Gendering%20of%20Language%20A%20Comparison%20of%20Gender%20Equality%20in%20Countries%20with%20Gendered%20%20Natural%20Gender%20and%20Genderless%20Languages.pdfMar 22 2013: Pabitra, my dear one, are we talking about language? Or climate change?
I think/feel if a country chooses to change their language, that is fine. The last time I checked, I didn't have much influence with the world leaders, so if that is their choice....so be it.
You asked..."
" Should languages be made gender neutral or be left on their own to preserve literary integrity?"
I believe that if a country wants to change their language, it is a choice they make, and I respect their choice. I believe my language is evolving, and if someone, somewhere is intent on changing the language, I will adapt:>)Mar 18 2013: I understand the history of oppression and inequality which must end. But doesn't making a deal out of these issues make the language awkward? Doesn't this mandatory use of s/he in our language only remind of the inequality? When will people stop getting offended and stop paying attention to these things?
Mar 19 2013: That's precisely the point. Thanks.Mar 31 2013: This debate is not about English language's gender bias but about gender bias of languages as a whole and about the propriety of conscious neutralization of that bias in the context of linguistic integrity. But since we cannot discuss all languages in detail and English is the language of communication here, most discussions are veering around it, which I don't find unnatural.
We see men and women as different and distinct. That is a biological truth. Socially, however, seeing such difference/distinction runs the risk of discrimination towards one, and I contend women. Sexist language is one expression of that risk. For English, sociolinguistically, there are clear expressions of discrimination towards women in as much as the language statistically exhibits more references of women as inferior to men than contrary.
I would have been happy if I could see 'sexual distinction' in English as simplistically as Paul Lillebo did. Unfortunately, I see it right from the morphology of the language. Morpheme prefixes and suffixes such as -ess or -ette are used to derive feminine genders of words which enjoy the right to own the context with masculine bias. This reinforces my belief that linguistic expression of English language attests the biologically unfounded belief : women came from men or derived from men.
Interestingly such derived feminine gendered words, by rule, do not imply just a difference and therefore equality. Semantically, the gendered pair words Master - Mistress, Governor - Governess, Call boy - Call girl are not of equal social meaning. I hope one will not dispute the degeneration of social class and importance of the feminine gender in each case.
Even Man and Woman are not equal in meaning. I bid you to check the dictionaries to confirm the higher, broader and more powerful connotations of the word 'Man' compared to 'Woman'. If this is not bias, I don't know what is.
Apr 1 2013: Labeling my contribution as "simplistic" certainly simplifies the task of evaluation for our fellow debaters. Strange, for one whose claimed mission is to rid our syntax of biased semantic labels.
About your presumably non-simplistic recitation above, you say that the fact that the terms "Man and Woman are not equal in meaning," with "more powerful connotations of the word Man," shows conclusively that this is a result of bias. ("If this is not bias, I don't know what is.") But you haven't at all proved that these differences are the result of bias, only that they are different. The reason could perhaps be bias, but it could as well be experience and assessment. What investigations have you done to show that the uses of the words, over thousands of years, are not based on experience rather than simply bias?
Apr 2 2013: Dear Paul,
I am sorry if you didn't like my assessment of your argument as 'simplistic'. I would humbly draw your attention to the fact that here in TED there is provision for such assessment by anybody by way of clicking 'Thumbs up (Well argued!)', so I have not breached any any code of conduct, I suppose. I respect your contribution but like every one retain the right to assess it too. Kindly do not take it as anything personal.
I am also sorry that you express your inability to elucidate the biological basis of your assertion, despite declaring your authority as a biologist. I am not one but love the subject and consider myself a student of it.
As regards my investigation, I am also limited by character limitation here. But for you and anyone interested I propose an easy enough test. Take four authentic dictionaries like Merriam-Webster, Oxford, Cambridge and Macmillan; look up 'Man', count the contextual meanings (definitions) including idioms and note. Do the same exercise for 'Woman'. Compare.
I find it very difficult to accept 'man' as representing human race on the basis of experience.Mar 28 2013: Languages changes overtime. They are very dynamic, so in my opinion any attempt to preserve literary integrity are stupid.
For those of you who are feminist, instead of calling an actress an actor. Why not calling an actor an actress?
Mar 28 2013: Good point. But poets are very stupid then. i write poetry, I am stupid too. :)
I am least perturbed to admit that I have stopped living my life solely on reason and logic. I put this debate to resolve a personal dilemma. In one part I think language should change to appreciate and express the social changes - gender equality in this case. In another part I shall miss words and usages that make me inspired to be a literary artist.
I am possibly seeing the ray of hope, still a feeling basically, that the change may bring new beauty.
If you give me good enough reward and respect for acting, I have no, repeat NO, problem to be called an actress. And i am no feminist.
arun naina
Mar 27 2013: The only place gender language actually has a role is in the doctor's office. Outside of that, it's a leftover mechanism from an archaic part of the mind - one that can only group things into a few simple containers.
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Gender itself is really just a mix of personality traits that are linked to the reproductive role of that organism. The problem with us is that, in relations to gender, is that we always attempt to stuff 7 billion people into just two of them, even though the variety of 'genders' increases every day.
Variety is hard/scary to deal with, so it's much easier to place everyone into two 'roles' and expect them to act accordingly. Are you a big, muscular woman? Are you a short, skinny male? Do you act according to what your culture dictates for your sex? Does your sexuality match the preferred norm? It doesn't matter who or what you actually are, because at the end you're still just 'he' or 'she', and those two terms invoke certain connotations that are 'expected' to be acknowledged and conformed to, or in the case of a reader of the terms, invoke a certain image.
That is the real debate. Conformity and codependency to a term that's used to describe oneself, even though the definition of it might hardly be 'you' in reality. You also see great amounts of anger when males are females are considered with more equal terms, usually from the male population.
Why does it matter whether I know the sex of the person delivering my mail? The only thing in your body that cares is the sexual reproductive parts of it. That's the part of human beings that actually wants gender language to remain in place.
The languages that assign genders to items illustrates this all that well. They have set connotations/expectations for males/females and assign those attributes to items that they feel mimic them. Why? Because that's the only way in which they can (currently) think - with stereotypes.
Replace the word "gender" with "personality" and you start to see how silly itMar 27 2013: Language is a key element of our culture and there seems to be proof that it influences our world view.
For example see Keith Chen's talk 'Could your language affect your ability to save money?'
There are other folklore examples which seem to make similar connections between language and identity. In Europe we tend to associate cultures which have 'Romance languages' (e.g. French, Italian) with being more 'romantic' than those which have Germanic languages.
So as our culture changes it makes sense that our language should change with it. Personally I would not like to see all language differences disappear.
A social mono-culture could be as risky as an agricultural one.
arun naina
Mar 27 2013: It wouldn't be socially mono though. You'd just start seeing a gigantic variety in personality and thoughts, compared to the two that we're currently being told to stick to. Personality and individuality essentially replace the two current molds of 'she' and 'he'.
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In other words, human beings start dividing themselves in other ways, outside of what's simply between their legs. You foster variety rather than stifle it (as how it mostly is now, especially in the poorer/more war-driven countries).
DG Fletcher
Mar 25 2013: I have "gender issues" or "gender identity issues" or whatever, and that literally stops me from learning Spanish, which would be really useful in my area. I could never call myself by the "appropriate" gender ending in classes. I use gender neutral terms when speaking about myself. To have to constantly refer to myself as a specific gender in everything I say... makes me a little nuts.
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I like English because it lets you (mostly) pick your battles. Sibling is useful but a little generic. "Sister" or "brother" actually relevant sometimes. I sometimes wish we had a gender-specific word for cousins. "Actor" not as relevant. "Doctor" Not relevant at all.
In case you haven't noticed... I avoided stating a gender either direction. :D
Mar 26 2013: That's great actually. The languages never acknowledge various shades between male and female.Mar 24 2013: I think we must remember that words are symbols or maps of reality and not reality itself. This said, every word, offensive, colorful, kind, or "..." has value and should be cherished and preserved.
Language is the artistic medium for each and everyone of us. We paint our experiences using a palette of words.
Let's not start eating our crayons lest our images become too monotone.
Andrew Breen
Mar 23 2013: This is a massive question that becomes increasingly difficult to answer the more we try to understand what it actually asks.
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Is it possible it's more a culturally conditioned issue than a condition of gendered language? Does language influence culture or did culture influence language? It would take a very cleverly designed study to parse the distinction, I'm thinking a retrospective cross cultural meta analysis of the etiology of modern languages for several countries with disparate gender equalities. The control would have to be from a language which developed in a country where there has been equality from the beginning. A huge undertaking.
Mar 26 2013: This study "a retrospective cross cultural meta analysis of the etiology of modern languages for several countries with disparate gender equalities." is an EXCELLENT idea Andrew. Is there a country where there has been equality from the beginning?
Mar 26 2013: Carolyn Mcauley (posted below this reply) may be able to lend directions.
Mar 27 2013: Interesting - marked for further study -Thanks Andrew :-)
"There is already a people who are gender neutral regarding words...they are in Zaire, Africa: Mbuti tribe ....The Mbuti tribe only have one word for elder,peer and child." This next part shows they are really smart: " They advocate competition as unacceptable as it isolates the winner and saddens the losers "
5 Languages spoken in Zaire: French, Lingala · Kongo, Swahili · Tshiluba
A sample of the language is:
Bantu bonsu badi baledibwa badikadile ne badi ne makokeshi amwe. Badi ne lungenyi lwa bumuntu ne kondo ka moyo, badi ne bwa kwenzelangana malu mu buwetu.
" All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. "
Beautiful !!
Andrew Breen
Mar 27 2013: I chuckled when I read "Brotherhood" and can only assume their gender neutral word for that interpersonal relationsip doesn't directly translate to English, though camaraderie might work :P
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Mar 28 2013: You are right!! That is funny :-) ....It seems English is the one needing to be upgraded....it'll take time but we can fix it. What word can we use to improve our language?
" All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of _______________ - (Insert your better / best word?)
I do like camaraderie...
Grace Greene
Mar 23 2013: Words are POWERFUL things. They can inspire or they can hold us back. For too long, the words "He" and "She" have been used against the "She" persons. There is a place for them, but there is also a NEED for gender neutral words.
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have you seen the TED talk where a linguist discovered a correlation between savings rates in countries with a language that use a future tense and those countries with languages that don't have them. i.e. Some languages say "It will rain tomorrow" whereas others say "It rain tomorrow". Those persons speaking languages that do not include a future tense have far higher savings rates than those who use languages such as English.
Words are powerful unto themselves. Words have meanings. If there is no word to convey meaning, then people are harmed. Such as women in situations where gender is meaningless but used as a weapon anyhow.
Mar 23 2013: It looks though many believe here that languages are results of our thoughts and not vice verse. I find it difficult to accept. Some argue that gender neutrality in a language is no measure of gender equality in the countries/societies where such languages are spoken. I have noticed that it was argued a conscious gender neutralization of languages is only a cosmetic dressing over the fissure across the gender lines.
I think there is a lack of understanding regrading how a conscious gender neutralization works on a language. Such processes are not disruptive but incremental and works over huge spans of time, even centuries. I think such long and deep process cannot possibly be academic experiments but rather manifestation of societies' urge to shake free from gender discrimination. If English is not sufficiently gender neutral even today it might mean lack of true will by societies/countries to see women as equal where the language is spoken natively.
I am not very fond of so called feminism which appears to seek special attention to women rather than true equality and I like women being different from men. I mean steward and stewardess are equal words - but what is the stress here? On stewardship or the gender of the person?
Gord G
Mar 23 2013: Gender neutral and sexist language are distinctly different issues. The former is a question of designation. The latter is a grossly inappropriate bias.
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The implementation of gender neutrality in language will no more eradicate sexism than a fresh coat of paint on a slum will eradicate poverty. To object to unique designations is to infer that one designation is greater than the other. Gender specific titles actually promote equality by creating a platform to discuss the underlying bias.
Mar 23 2013: Thank you for your opinion. But that gender bias and sexist language go hand in hand is not a matter of speculation anymore. I have cited peer reviewed research publication that concludes that grammatical gender in languages can shape how people interpret the world around them along gender lines. Also that the gender gap is smaller in countries where languages have been naturalized.
Gord G
Mar 23 2013: Gender bias is different than gender neutral language.
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I'm suggesting the language didn't create the bias. The underlying bias defined the language. Eliminating the language denies there is a difference between genders.
What needs to be eliminated is the belief that one gender is superior or inferior to the other. If the language is neutralized so is the discussion...so the bias of the past will be supplanted by a denial of the difference. I don't believe either is a healthy position to adopt.
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Mar 23 2013: Thanks Carolyn. That's interesting. Tribes are proto-societies. Can you please tell us more about the language of Mbuti?
Mar 21 2013: I am with you wife on this. Changing the English language to gender-neutral would be a leap for mankind. It would greatly speed up the process of ending oppression and inequality, which must end if we wish to move forward . People in society are there to work and a lot of energy and time has been wasted by seeing their gender instead of their contribution, all at the expense of progress and economic growth.
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Literature and poetry, are free to be as they always are in a different class. And, getting a job, labor and being a contributing member of the economy is not the poetry part of life. Literary integrity and gender integrity and human integrity will all benefit from this change to a neutral language. Everyone should be able to get a job they are trained and fit for and earn their living.
Mar 21 2013: Thank you Juliette. I like your straight forward honesty. :)
But wait now, how come ladies here are standing beside my wife? :D
Mar 21 2013: we are all one......and when we stand on her side, we are automatically on yours (and vice versa ;-)❥
Mar 21 2013: Thanks again. I shall remember that.Mar 20 2013: Language evolves, language always reflects the culture that created it.
Our languages in the western culture have gone through ages where men and women had their specific role and place in society. These days, that's very rare, everybody is considered equal, and should get a fair possibility to apply for any job. So yes, adapt the language, let it reflect the culture we stand for, and so make it a natural gender language!Mar 20 2013: G'day Pabitra
I think you're as a big a worry as me somehow, you would fit in fine obviously & don't worry about the beauties chasing you just worry about the bronze Aussie blokes after your misses. :)
Mar 20 2013: That's a distinct possibility Mathew. However, I have enough worries of that kind here :)
After head banging for 20 years together, I honestly wonder why she put up with me this long. May be women feel safe with men of lesser caliber than theirs. Or may be she just loves me.
Mar 20 2013: Haha.....I'm in the same boat as I keep saying to my misses why do you put up with it maybe you should find yourself a newer model!!
Mar 21 2013: I would advise your misses to stick to old, safer and trusted model as long it is functional ;)Mar 23 2013: "For who can always act? but he,
To whom a thousand memories call,
Not being less but more than all
The gentleness he seemed to be,
But seemed the thing he was, and join'd
Each office of the social hour
To noble manners, as the flower
And native growth of noble mind;
And thus he bore without abuse
The grand old name of Gentleman."
Without good role models during developmental years (ages 10-18), reaching that degree of dignified chivalry is a struggle. Then at adulthood and marriage, young men have to wing it. So it would be helpful when fine gentlemen , like Matthew and Pabitra, would write books, to reach out to them and be that healthy figure for the young men of the world to emulate.
Mar 23 2013: G'day Juliette
Quite a nice & exact poem but it certainly doesn't refer to me for the main reason I couldn't put myself in my uncles shoes who was a true gentleman.
Maturity is a funny word to use because I wouldn't say that I was mature as I can be quite a nutter at times however not usually to the bounds of carless immaturity. I'm afraid most blokes are or seem to be self-centred especially when they get with their mates & once mixed with immaturity this combination can become quite unbecoming but if we also add in a little macho-ness we have a cocktail of self-deprivation in one's mannerism, (Bohemianism).
Mar 23 2013: Hi Mathew,
Maybe you can write about your uncle!! I am sure anyone who has a long standing 'living' marriage qualifies to contribute to the mentoring of our youth. We have a joke here about six-degrees of Kevin. Amongst other things, it means that we are six people removed from knowing Kevin; a gentleman ;-)lol.
I totally agree with you, it is best to steer clear of that cocktail all together. In the end of the day, it won't do anyone any good. Actually, it won't do anyone any good at any time of the day!!
Meanwhile we need another column now for new definitions for words like " maturity "...will include responsible, thoughtful, kind, honorable, fun, fair, flexible & right amounts of nuttiness!! lol.Mar 18 2013: Removing gender differentiation in language and in the society are two completely different things.
While there has been some evidence to show that the mother tongue one speaks may influence some of the cognitive processes in the mind (I suggest and recommend reading Guy Deutscher's book "Through the Language Glass" for a thoroughly insightful analysis of this phenomenon), it remains limited only to certain areas of the human experience, and logical reasoning is certainly not one of them.
Admittedly, the linguistic system may influence one's associations about objects and people, but it is only one of the factors to determine the general social position of a person or a group of people. Historic development, contemporary social trends, influence of religion, etc. all work their way into our perception and judgment.
So, to sum up, I do recognize that language can in fact influence how we think about people, but even if it were possible to instantly switch to a universal gender-neutral linguistic system, it would most likely still not solve any of the burning issues that sparked this discussion in the first place.
Mar 19 2013: is removing gender differentiation in society desirable? to me it's quite clear that men and women are different - equal, but different - and i see no problem with acknowledging this obvious fact in language or anything else. what's wrong with referring to a woman as she? it's the female equivalent term to 'he', and denotes no inferiority.
Mar 19 2013: I completely agree! It's not the language that caused the social differences, and it's the wrong place to start the fight for equality.Mar 19 2013: "Removing gender differentiation in language and in the society are two completely different things." I am not sure. I shall try to get the book. Meanwhile can you please explain why you think so?
Mar 19 2013: It is known that if a language does not have a word for a certain phenomenon, it does not mean that its speakers cannot comprehend it. For example, there are languages with only two words for color (roughly corresponding to "light" and "dark"), and yet, its speakers are perfectly capable of distinguishing all the colors of the visible spectrum.
In the same way, if we removed the male/female differentiation from language, and invented gender-neutral pronouns and, for the sake of the argument, names for professions, it would still not make people any less aware of the factual reality that people do, in fact, come in more than one gender and that we are all able to perceive and understand this.
So my argument is that making changes in language alone wouldn't do much good in obtaining more equality for the genders in the society. Deep social changes, and changes in the mindsets of people, are necessary if we want any concrete improvement. It is not the words that are the problem, it is the associations that are connected with them. When we stop dominantly associating the word "actress" with appearance, and "actor" with actual talent, then we'll be on a good path toward equality.
Mar 20 2013: just an fyi i think in support of your argument, here in japan there are 2 personal pronouns, 'san' which is female or for either gender, and 'kun' which is for males only, yet there are no men complaining that the word 'kun' is discriminatory, and it has been argued that gender inequality is much larger in japan (personally i disgree, but that's another story).Mar 20 2013: "So my argument is that making changes in language alone wouldn't do much good in obtaining more equality for the genders in the society. Deep social changes, and changes in the mindsets of people, are necessary if we want any concrete improvement. It is not the words that are the problem, it is the associations that are connected with them. When we stop dominantly associating the word "actress" with appearance, and "actor" with actual talent, then we'll be on a good path toward equality. "
I am examining how language can affect deep social changes in the mindsets of people in the first place. My wife's or Colleen's views are indicative of their respective experiences how they have confronted the words like 'actress' in their lives. I think there is an insight to gained from that.Mar 20 2013: If seeing how language can (or cannot?) influence the mind is what you're going for, I really do recommend Guy Deutscher's book like I said above, it was very eye-opening for me.
Renessa Bak
Mar 18 2013: in a way we already have gone from he/she to e. . time to capitalize on the E, for U, as I . . . put them all on a basic capital letter . . . (as in drop the yo from yoU
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I find it interesting that in Holland, we have he/hij. She/zij. they/zij, she is /zij zij. and they zijn.
in other words, 'She' and 'is' are the same words. while the pleural is femine as well.
I do not know if any of the other languages have a similar.. I would think it would put a whole different slant on life.
they also have jij or je for you. wij, for we and gij. . the genderless term, and of Capitalized for God. . .
Mar 18 2013: In Swedish we now have not only han (he), hon (she) but also hen as a pronoun for both.
Mar 18 2013: How long has this been around?
Mar 21 2013: I'm not sure but at least two years.Mar 19 2013: 'e' is a new think I learnt here. I am wondering how my poetry will feel with all 'he' and 'she' replaced with 'e'.
Mar 28 2013: there's always poetic license., no?
Mar 28 2013: Poetry is one great artistic expression of the humans, but art embodies aesthetics and appreciation which are always influenced by enlightenment and changing social orders. So the license should not be taken as a practical determinant of gender identities.
I mean, 'she' as it comes in poetry most often deals with emotionality of feminine genders whereas it does hardly matter if the medical surgery undergone by someone comes from the hands of a female or male.Mar 16 2013: My native language is Persian
In this case, Persian is wonderful and I really like it just for this matter
Persian doesn't have He/she or "ess" for females. In fact in Persian you can't specify gender in words and language as we see in English, French, Arabic and etc.
This is very cool. I think as we go, gender in languages will fades away. One example is "guys" that used to be just for males but now females can use it too
I wish a language without these kind of words.
P.S: Even with Persian that is a gender less languages, but I see sexist action a lot more than lots of countries. It's not just the language, still the key is people.
Mar 19 2013: If you are from Iran, your country's GGG index is 0.58 and HDI is 0.76. GGG stands for Global Gender Gap and HDI stands for Human Development Index. The full names of the sub-scores for the Global Gender Gap Index are "Economic Participation and Opportunity", "Educational Attainment", "Health and Survival", and "Political Empowerment." All quantitative variables range from 0 to 1.


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PANAMA CITY — The St. Andrew Bay Land Co. has unveiled plans for a massive development — including thousands of homes, commercial space, a school and marina — on the old airport property off Lisenby Avenue.
The Panama City Planning Board and Commission likely will vote to approve Phase I of the project this month.
Infrastructure construction is slated to begin in June, and the company, in a letter to the commission and mayor, has requested its plans and permits be approved by May 30.
The 704-acre development called SweetBay eventually will include 3,200 homes, 700,000 square feet of commercial space and the University Academy (Florida State University's charter school in Bay County), as well as parks, ponds and plenty of green space. The property is located at the northern end of Lisenby Avenue, where the Panama City-Bay County International Airport was located before it moved to the West Bay area. The Airport Authority sold the property to St. Andrew Bay Land Co. for $51.4 million in February 2011.
Right now, the focus is on Phase I of the project. Monday's Planning Board meeting will include four agenda items pertaining to the development, including zoning adjustments, rights of way abandonment, and reviews of the project's plans and "developer agreement."
The Planning Board will be looking at whether the project complies with the city's comprehensive plan. The City Commission will then take those same agenda items up at its Tuesday meeting, according to its agenda.
Normally, agenda items don't roll from the Planning Board to the commission on successive days, but the city is trying to accommodate the developers, said Mike Lane, the city's planning director. Usually, the commission takes action on items the Planning Board approves not at the next day's meeting but at the meeting after that.
But, in the letter the company's lawyer, William Harrison, said the plan is to start Phase I infrastructure construction by June. The city's standard approval process would have required some of Tuesday's agenda items to not be resolved until a June meeting or perhaps a special meeting.
"In essence … we shaved off roughly two weeks," Lane said, noting the development company "panicked" after realizing it miscalculated the approval process timeline.
The decision to speed up the process was made by City Manager Ken Hammons, who did not return a call for comment.
Commissioner Billy Rader, who represents the old airport area, said he was "comfortable" with the timeline on the approval process. He said the commissioners have met individually to discuss the plan.
Rader praised the development plans, saying it looked "beautiful."
"To me it speaks volumes of the confidence that they have in our community," he said.
Rader added: "I think it has the potential to be the greatest asset our city has seen in many, many years."
Harrison: 'Sense of urgency'
Harrison disagrees with the notion Phase I is being "fast-tracked." He said the development has been moving through the permitting process for more than two years.
Harrison said the company wants to get the infrastructure work — water, sewer and road improvements — done by the end of 2013, and then get the houses built. He said this is a self-imposed deadline and there are no financial implications involved. He said no permits will expire if the vote is pushed to June.
Harrison said the real estate market is most active from spring to early fall, so the company wants to have the houses finished for that peak period.
"I was hoping to convey to the commission that there is a sense of urgency, in that we need to make continual progress in the development of this project; otherwise it just kind of slips and slips and slips," Harrison said.
But, if approval doesn't come in May, it's fine; the key is that action is taken on Phase I as soon as possible, Harrison said.
"We're just trying to meet the market, particularly as we approach the spring of next year," he said.
Phase I
If approved, Phase I will include 274 homes and the University Academy on a 66-acre expanse. It also will feature Academy Square, which will include the development's entrance, a park and pond, Harrison said.
Meanwhile, the residential component will be called Academy Park, sitting adjacent to the old airport terminal.
The first homes are slated for completion in spring 2014. They will have architectural guidelines, which will assure continuity throughout the development, preserving a community aesthetic, Harrison said.
Phase I will not include commercial development, however. That will "follow" the residential development, and it depends on the level of interest in the commercial market, Harrison said. When built, the commercial area will be located at the intersection of State 390 and Baldwin Road.
"We'll just have to wait and see how quickly the residential develops" initially, Harrison said.
The University Academy — for kids in kindergarten through fifth grade — is scheduled to move into the old airport terminal in fall 2014, Harrison said. The renovation process has begun already, and the interior demolition process has finished. Next comes the interior buildout on the terminal.
"So as far as construction is concerned, technically it's already begun," Harrison said.
But, the rest of the development, which the Planning Board and commission still must approve, would begin in late summer or early fall of this year, Harrison said.
Economic impact
Harrison touted the economic benefits the development will bestow on the city and county. He said when the property housed the airport, the county and city received no ad valorem tax revenue.
Harrison also said building Phase I will create 790 jobs in 2013 alone and estimated it will generate $260,000 in residential ad valorem taxes, as well.
"It's a tremendous amount of work that's going to be done in this whole area between now and the end of this year," he said.
Once all 274 homes are finished in Phase I, it will generate $700,000 in ad valorem taxes annually, Harrison said. Once all 3,200 homes are finished in the entire development, it will generate $8.1 million in ad valorem taxes annually.
The entire project will create 6,400 jobs, he said.
Yet, the long-run timetable for the project is difficult to predict and completion could take more than 20 years, according to the development company's documents. Each of the development's seven phases will consist of 200 to 800 homes, contingent on demand.
Harrison, however, couldn't be more excited about the project.
"It is a heart transplant, I believe, for Panama City. It is really going to make phenomenal improvements to the core of Panama City. … It just couldn't come soon enough for me," he said.
An earlier version of this story is posted below:
PANAMA CITY — City officials plan to fast track development of the old airport property.
Phase I site plans for SweetBay will be considered by the city planning board Monday before possibly going to city commissioners for Tuesday's meeting. If approved the development project of 274 homes and University Academy, an FSU charter school, could begin.
"It is unusual," said Mike Lane, Panama City planning director, of an item being considered by the planning board then going before the commission the next day. "I think the call was made because it would push back [St. Andrew Bay Land Company's] schedule back."
The decision was made by the city manager's office. Ken Hammons, city manager, could not be reached for comment Thursday.
A letter from the company to commissioners stated in order to meet SweetBay's infrastructure schedule it would need commission approval by May 30.
The site for the city's first mixed use (residential and commercial) community encompasses 66 acres at the northern-most section of Lisenby Avenue. The planning board will be looking at whether the project complies with the city's Comprehensive Plan.
SweetBay is one of seven phases for development projects planned for the 704 acres, which formerly made up the Panama City – Bay County International Airport. The airport authority sold the property in February 2011 to St. Andrew Bay Land Company for $51.4 million.
Overall plans for the area call for up to 3,200 residences and 700,000 square feet of commercial space.
While an actual timetable for a project of this magnitude is difficult to predict, completion could take more than 20 years, according to St. Andrew Land Company documents. Each of the seven phases will consist of the development of 200 to 800 homes, which is contingent on demand.
Benefits to the city when the project is completed are estimated at 790 jobs, $3.9 million in sales tax revenue and more than $700,000 in ad valorem revenue.


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FORT WALTON BEACH — For 50 years, the League of Women Voters of Okaloosa County has been holding political feet to the fire.
It was Republican state Rep. Matt Gaetz's turn Tuesday to face a group that doesn't always lean in the same political direction he does.
Gaetz attended a league luncheon at the Fort Walton Yacht Club to present some items on his agenda for the upcoming legislative session.
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Gaetz, "an unapologetic supporter of FCAT," debated school testing and teacher tenure with a couple of former educators in the audience.
One of them, Pat Burrough, said she couldn't understand why the state would authorize an exam like Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test that she contended focused only on math and reading.
"I never saw it as a real good test for students," Burrough said.
Gaetz predicted that legislation will trend more this year toward "de-emphasizing portions of the FCAT people find troublesome."
The move in education, he said, would be "more toward end-of-course" testing.
"We shouldn't take the scoreboard down in the classroom," and a competitive world demands measurable standards for students, he said.
Gaetz called teacher tenure "an immoral concept." He said he favors removing teachers found to be "chronically underperforming" after a period of three years.
"Too often we allow teachers who shouldn't be there to stay in the classroom," he said.
Gaetz also said he favors legislation that would charge college students majoring in STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) fields less than those majoring in subjects like psychology, which he claimed was the No. 1 degree achieved in Florida.
"If a bright young person wants to get a biochemistry degree, it should not cost the same amount of money as someone who wants a psychology degree," he said.
He said incentivizing students to achieve in STEM classes will ultimately lure high-paying businesses seeking a well-trained workforce to Florida.
Gaetz and league members clearly differed on the issues of prison overcrowding and felony amnesty.
Gaetz said there are "private sector vendors" quietly pushing early prison release proposals.
"Their goal to grow their market is to let people out of jail sooner," he said.
He said he wouldn't support such proposals.
"I will stand in the breach, opposing letting people out of jail before they serve 85 percent of their sentence," he declared.
Mary Blackwell, the local league's president, said this year the state organization again will push to restore voting and other rights to residents with felony convictions in their past.
"If you're not willing to restore their rights, their debt is never paid," she said. "Once you're done, if you're going to just pay and pay, you're going to go back to doing what you were doing before. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't."
Gaetz saw things differently.
"If someone is a felon they surrender their ability to elect our leaders," he said.
While the league has battled for more hours for early voting, Gaetz suggested increases could actually benefit candidates with deep pockets.
Wealthy candidates could pummel potential voters with mailings and other campaign material over an extended period if the number of days allowed for voting were increased, he said.
Gaetz said gun control is sure to come up in this legislative session and should produce interesting, even "zany proposals," from each side of the issue.
He said he supports the "stand your ground" law and told a questioner he didn't believe that it made sound constitutional sense to administer psychological tests to potential gun buyers.
He said he also would not favor the unrestricted arming of teachers.
"We have teachers in our schools who suffer bipolar disorders and mental disorders," he said. "We don't need to put weapons in the hands of more people with mental illness."
After the meeting Gaetz said he enjoyed the back and forth with league members.
"I'm a lawyer and a former high school debater," he said. "I see this group as a part of the 155,000 I represent. Not everyone is going to agree on every issue."
Blackwell said although "oftentimes we are on opposite sides of an issue" she could not fault Gaetz's work ethic as a legislator.
She said she actually was hoping for "more back and forth" at the meeting attended by just 12 league members.
"It was important to have him here," she said.
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You know how some things you do on your Corvette are quick and easy? Like bolting on a performance air cleaner, adding graphics decals, or laying in a set of custom floor mats? These are things that take little time and, usually, not a lot of bucks, plus add an air of distinction and maybe a modest boost to performance or handling.
Well, this story is about installing a complete performance exhaust system on an '87, and frankly, it is none of the above. It's not quick, it's not easy, and it's not inexpensive. In fact, it's a real pain in the butt to do. But if you've got the budget, a little creativity, and lots of patience, it's well worth the trouble.
Here's the deal: we sought out the best combination of exhaust system parts we could find-street performance headers from Stainless Works with their beautiful thermal coat finish and a high-performance catalytic converter from the folks at Random Technologies, who know a lot more about performance tuning than we ever suspected. For the cat-back pieces, we asked for advice from the tech people at Mid America Motorworks, who recommended a Corsa muffler package that they felt gives the best blend of sound and substance for our somewhat-modified C4.
Removing the factory exhaust system was straightforward, even though it was twenty years old. The real challenge was fitting the headers in amongst all the parts that attach to, or pass near, or are in the way of them. And we don't fault the header design for that. Stainless Works has done a masterful job of designing equal-length headers to fit in a space where most folks would say headers would never fit. And they've constructed them to accept all the factory emissions system pieces in order to keep the Feds happy.
There are an awful lot of heat shields, brackets, and other parts in the vicinity of the headers, and they all must be dealt with in a limited working area. We did the job on a lift, and it's fair to say that this job would be virtually impossible without one. By our estimate, with no exaggeration, we probably raised and lowered the lift at least fifty times in the course of doing this job, finding things in the way, moving or modifying them as we went, until we were able to get the headers bolted into place. Once the headers were mated up to the cylinder heads, the rest of the job was pretty straightforward.
Along the way, we had to fabricate a couple of brackets, bend a few tubes (not the header tubes, obviously), add a couple of spacers, and trim a number of heat shields to make everything fit. We even had to fabricate a special tool to tighten two of the spark plugs that were inaccessible once the headers were bolted up. in the interest of appearance, since our Project '87 is a Show 'n Go car, before we started the installation we sent the cat-back pipes to the artists at Classic Coatings, whose chrome-like finish was nothing short of breathtaking.
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Kent State Stark Presents the Almeda Trio in Concert on Feb. 11Posted Feb. 4, 2011
Kent State University at Stark Music Department presents the Almeda Trio in concert on Friday, Feb. 11 at 7:30 p.m. in Main Hall Auditorium, 6000 Frank Avenue NW in Jackson Township. The concert is free and open to the public. No tickets are required.
The Almeda Trio, Cleveland's Music School Settlement's trio-in-residence, consists of Cara Tweed on violin, Ida Mercer on cello and Robert Cassidy on piano. Its members are accomplished performers, in addition to faculty members at the Music School Settlement, Aurora School of Music, Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland State University.
The ensemble's musical scope offers insightful and energetic performances of a wide range of genres, including contemporary, folk and jazz. They have won acclaim for creating a tangible relationship with audiences through engaging on-stage commentary. In May 2011, the Almeda Trio will perform the Beethoven Triple Concerto with the Cleveland Philharmonic Orchestra. For more information on the Almeda Trio, visit almedatrio.com.
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Thread: 20 Years Baby Name Game!!! EPIC
October 11th, 2012 07:55 PM #36Senior Member
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Wyatt & Kristina Parker
Married at age 23.
Country themed wedding. Honeymoon in Dubai. Moved to Nashville.
Year 1: Your family moves into a mansion (or a really big house)! What does it look like?
Year 2: A friend or family member has a baby girl. What do they name her?
Bree Nicole http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=84be56c
Year 3: Your family goes on vacation. Where do you go to?
Year 4: You adopt boy/girl twins.
Wesley Matthew & Payton Sophia http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=8e563e4
Year 5: Your family moves to a city in Texas. Where do you move to?
Ft. Worth
Year 6: A close friend dies and leaves his/her 3-year-old son to you and DH. What is the boy's name?
Keyton Thomas http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=542753d
Year 7: Nephew gets married.
Hayden marries Avery.
Year 8: 8, then a 7: You and a family member or friend go into business together. What kind of business do you go into? How does it turn out?
Childrens clothing boutique with sister.
Year 9: You have triplets, two boys and a girl.
Levi Cooper, Ryan Dean, & Harper Elise http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=bb68d93
Year 10: You or one of your family members has a scene in a movie or TV show! What movie/show and what is your roll? Wesley has a role in a family show.
Year 11: A friend or family member has a baby girl. What do they name her?
Layla Hope http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=84be56c
Year 12: Your family adopts a dog and a cat. What breeds are they and what are their names?
Basset Hound & Calico: Rupert & Jilly http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=2af983f
Year 13: Your family moves to a city in Texas. Where do you move to?
Year 14: A friend or family member has a baby boy. What do they name him?
Andrew Mason http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=84be56c
Year 15: Cousin gets married.
Addison marries Connor
Year 16: You have a single baby. Gender is your choice.
Ella Cole http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=c8eecdd
Year 17: Something happens to your home and your family is forced to move in with relatives. How does that work out? How long are you there for? What does your new home look like (if you manage to get one)?
We have a house fire. The space is limited but DH's sister loves having us there. We are there for a few months until we could buy another home. http://easttexashomesandland.com/wp-...stone-home.jpg
Year 18: Your or DH's younger sibling comes to stay with your family. Why are they there and for how long? What significant changes are in your family?
Husbands little brother Lucas and his 5 year old twin girls Signy & Halsey come to stay for 3 months while they search for a home. http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=87365b4
Year 19: You are interviewed on a talk show! What show is it? What did you do to be interviewed?
My clothing store has become famous.
Year 20: Your family gets a cat. What kind of cat and what do you name it?
Siamese: Misha http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=eb1ad1b
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Wyatt & Kristina Parker
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October 12th, 2012 12:29 PM #38
Clairie Elizabeth & Jude Alexander Matthews
Married in 2020, in a little church in France.
Honeymooned for two weeks in South Africa.
First home: a two-bedroom white chalet in Lugano, Switzerland.
Year 1: Clairie and Jude decide to establish a charity foundation for children and families affected by childhood cancer. The foundation, called Knots of Love, sends woven bracelets and large checks to the children, their families, and research facilities.
Year 2: When Jude, who is in the military, gets transferred, the relatively-newlyweds say good-bye to their Swiss town and move to Liverpool, England. Their new house is a three-bedroom, old, brown stone home surrounded by trimmed green bushes.
Year 3: Clairie and Jude meet a boy called Samson Michael McCartney through Jude's job. He is eighteen, divorced, and living alone. Samson's new girlfriend, though, is pregnant, barely making any money, and has already made it clear that she wants nothing to do with the baby. Clairie and Jude adopt Samson's daughter when she is born, and they call her Skylar Elizabeth Matthews.
Year 4: Clairie, who is a champion equestrian, wins a dressage show. With the winnings of 250,000 pounds, the family is able to fix up their house, donate a good sum to Knots of Love, and help Jude's eighteen-year-old half-sister Johanna Reece Langley out of debt.
Year 5: Jude and Clairie decide to try and have their first biological baby, and when they do they wind up with triplets! Three healthy baby boys are born eight months later. Clairie and Jude call them Chase Michael, Jack Samuel, and Spencer Lucas.
Year 6: The family of six relocates to a suburb of Boston, Massachusetts, when Jude is again transferred. The new house is white with blue shutters and has a sprawling yard dotted with oak trees.
Year 7: Clairie's good friend from high school, Breanna Caitlin Hightower, dies in a car crash. When the will was read, Breanna had left her three-year-old son to Clairie. Because nobody knew of the little boy's father or his family, Clairie and Jude fly out to Missouri and adopt Breanna's son. His name is Brayden Joseph Hightower.
Year 8: Clairie unexpectedly gets pregnant. Nine months later, she has twin boys, called Eric James and Henry Peter.
Year 9: Jude finishes serving his military time and the family doesn't have to move. So, they go on a vacation to the beach in Florida and spend days and nights at a resort. Everyone has a great time.
Year 10: Clairie and her neighbor, Nathalie Pennington, start an arts shop in the town. Its name is Pennington's and it sells expensive pens, journals, paint brushes, paints, canvases, the like.
Year 11: Jude's favorite cousin, Colin Hathaway, loses his wife. The family moves to Phoenix, Arizona, to be closer to their family. The new house is light brown sandstone with a red roof. The porch is covered with bright flowers in clay vases.
Year 12: Clairie's friend from Knots of Love, Keira Wylie, dies of very fishy unknown causes. Her husband is nowhere to be found, and neither is her family, so the state of Louisiana lets Clairie and Jude adopt Keira's three-year-old son, Nathan Robert Wylie.
Year 13: Colin Hathaway's daughter, Jessenia Hathaway, has just started preschool when she comes home telling of two kids who sat behind her school and asked the teacher for something to eat. This shocked both families, and the Matthews notified the police. The police found out that the kids, a boy and a girl, were twins being deprived of food by their mother for two weeks. The mother lost custody, and through lots of court cases and hearings Clairie and Jude are able to adopt the twins. The twins are five and named Mitchell Cameron and Allyson Marie.
Year 14: Clairie unexpectedly has identical twin girls! The girls are named Cecilia Mary and Kayla Bridget.
Year 15: The family gets interviewed on a talk show because one-year-old Cecilia took an IQ test and got 157.
Year 16: Clairie and Jude hear, through a friend, about twin boys left on a highway and now in need of a good family. Clairie and Jude adopt the four-week-old boys and call them David Anthony and Cole Brandon.
Year 17: The family is again interviewed on a talk show. This time for having so many kids.
Year 18: Clairie unexpectedly has a son! His name is Noah George.
Year 19: Clairie and Jude try for a daughter and are pregnant for two weeks, and very sadly lose the baby. On a better note, the Knots of Love staff is interviewed on a talk show.
Year 20: Jude and Clairie decide to become foster parents. Their first foster child is a sad, sullen little girl called Lilly Kennedy who opens up into a budding, happy girl after a few weeks.
Skylar Matthews - 18
Brayden Hightower - 17
Chase Matthews, Jack Matthews, and Spencer Matthews - 16
Eric Matthews and Henry Matthews; Mitchell Matthews and Allyson Matthews - 13
Nathan Wylie - 12
Cecilia Matthews and Kayla Matthews; Lilly Kennedy - 6
David Matthews and Cole Matthews - 4
Noah Matthews - 2-- Lottie --
October 25th, 2012 12:56 AM #40
DW's name is Savvy Elizabeth Mendler and DH's name is Elliot Isaac Mendler. They were married in 2012 at the age of 20.
2013: Savvy and Elliot being a Charity for Autism Awareness.
2014: Savvy and Elliot move to Berlin, Germany.
2015: Savvy and Elliot move to Miami, Florida.
2016: One of Savvy's close friends, Natalia Russo dies and leaves her 3-year-old son to Savvy and Elliot. His name is Cameron Heath Mendler.
2017: Savvy and Elliot adopt a baby girl named Eloise (Loie) Violet Mendler.
2018: The family adopts a 2-year-old Golden Retriever named Copper.
2019: Savvy and Elliot have boy/girl twins named Flynn Isaac and Klariza Ivy Mendler.
2020: The family adopts a 4-year-old Teacup Labradoodle named Lola.
2021: Savvy and Elliot adopt triplets, two girls and a boy. Their names are Stella Elizabeth, Aria Felicity and Channing River Mendler.
2022: Elliot's great grandmother Pearl passes away and leaves them her home. It is large, beautiful and located outside of Atlanta, GA.
2023: Savvy and Elliot adopt a baby girl named Mollie Pearl (In memory of great grandmother Pearl)
2024: Savvy gets a tattoo on her lower back with a picture of a tiny angel in memory of Natalia.
2025: Savvy and Elliot have twin girls named Katia (Kat) Winslet and Kyrie Natalia Mendler.
2026: Savvy is interviewed on a talk show. It is the Ellen Show and she is interviewed for the charity that she and Elliot founded.
2027: They adopt a baby boy named Cooper Rhys Mendler.
2028: The whole family relocates to Denver, Colorado. They put up great grandmother Pearl's house for sale.
2029: Savvy and Elliot have twin boys named Hudson Finley and Holden Atticus Mendler.
2030: Savvy and Elliot have twin girls named Teddy Harper and Leighton Phoebe Mendler.
2031: Savvy and Elliot have twins, one boy and one girl. They name them Brady Quentin and Bridget Skye Mendler.
2032: They adopt boy/girl twins. They are named Leland Kai and Lucy Fiona Mendler.
After 20 years, the whole family:
DW: Savvy Elizabeth Mendler, 40
DH: Elliot Isaac Mendler, 40
DS#1: Cameron Heath Mendler, 19, adopted
DD#1: Eloise (Loie) Violet Mendler, 16, adopted
DS#2 & DD#2: Flynn Isaac and Klariza Ivy Mendler, 14
DD#3, DD#4 & DS#3: Stella Elizabeth, Aria Felicity and Channing River Mendler, 12, adopted
DD#5: Mollie Pearl Mendler, 10, adopted
DD#6 & DD#7: Katia (Kat) Winslet and Kyrie Natalia Mendler, 8
DS#4: Cooper Rhys Mendler, 6, adopted
DS#5 & DS#6: Hudson Finley and Holden Atticus Mendler, 4
DD#8 & DD#9: Teddy Harper and Leighton Phoebe Mendler, 3
DS#7 & DD#10: Brady Quentin and Bridget Skye Mendler, 2
DS#8 & DD#11: Leland Kai and Lucy Fiona Mendler, 8 months, adopted
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-pho...php?st=ae7a2acLovely Ladies: Astrid. India. Jane. Ramona. Thisbe.Fine Fellows: Atticus. Eliot. Finley. Theodore. Tobias.
October 29th, 2012 01:54 PM #42
Barry Richard and Teresa Dene Kander, married on May 31, 2003. Barry was 28 and Teresa was 21. We honeymooned for a week in the Bahamas, after which we returned to our home in Phoenix, Arizona.
2003: We adopted a dog and a cat. Our dog is a male Boston Terrier named Jack, and our cat is a female Siamese named Keiko.
2004: We doubled our family size when our twin sons were born this year! We named them Jacob Chandler Kander and Benjamin Alexander Kander
2005: This year, we packed up the pets and the boys and moved cross-country. Our new home is in Salem, Massachusetts.
2006: Our family increased again this year when we adopted twin five year old boys from Ethiopia,Daniel Hakeem Kander and David Melaku Kander
2007: This has been quite a year. Barry's mother, Adele, who lived in Boston, developed health issues which made it impossible for her to continue to live on her own. We decided to add a room onto our home and move her in with us. It has been an adjustment, but one that seems to be beneficial to all of us.
2008: And our family has grown yet again. This year we adopted 6 yr old triplets--two girls and a boy--from Germany. Their names are Liesl Adeline Kander, Johanna Grace Kander and Hans Jesse Kander.
2009: Sadly, this year Teresa's best friend, Dave Rigsby, passed away this year, leaving behind two young daughters. We have opened our home to 3 yr old Marisa Rose and 2 yr old Rebecca Anne and are in the process of adopting them, at which time their last names will become Rigsby-Kander.
2010: We were finally able to realize a dream of ours this year by opening a bookstore, which we call Tomes and Treasures.
2011: We have let the kids talk us into adding a parrot to our household this year. She is a beautiful blue and yellow Macaw, and her name is Aruba
2012: We seem to have a penchant for multiples. This year we adopted triplet 1 yr. old boys, whose names are Robert Quinn Kander, Richard Isaiah Kander, and Raymond Geoffrey Kander
2013: After losing Barry's mother last year, we decided it was time to make another brand new start. We sold the book store and our house in Salem, Massachusetts, and relocated to Amarillo, Texas this summer. Everyone seems to be enjoying the new location and settling in to a comfortable routine.
2014: Enjoying life in Texas didn't last very long, unfortunately. Barry and Teresa separated in March of this year, and were apart for six months. The children were very unhappy, as were both of their parents. After much counseling and hard work on both our parts, we were able to reunite in time to enjoy the holidays as a family.
2015: Nine months after reuniting, we were blessed with triplets...all boys! Their names are Hunter Matthias Kander, Harrison Todd Kander and Holden Maxwell Kander
2016: This year, Barry's younger brother, Stuart Anderson Kander, who is 22 and just out of college, moves in with us when he starts his new job here in Amarillo. He stays for six months while getting on his feet, and then moves into his own apartment.
2017: We have a baby girl this year..our first single birth. We named her Adrienne Elizabeth Kander.
2018: Barry's brother Stuart got married this year to his college sweetheart, Cassandra Dawn Lennon. Barry was best man, Leisl, Johanna, Marisa and Rebecca were junior bridesmaids, and Jacob, Benjamin, Daniel and David were ushers. It was a beautiful ceremony, and a fun-filled day.
2019: We've missed working together, so we decide to open a new bookstore/coffe shop here in Amarillo. We call it Literature and Latte, and it's already a huge success.
2020: Falling back on our penchant for multiples, this year we adopted two beautiful Persian kittens, Lynx and Avalon
2021: Cassandra decides to open a daycare center, and asks Teresa to go into business with her. They name it Kid Karnival
2022: This year we adopted three more children...2 yr old triplets. Their names are Larissa Harley Kander, Lorelei Breanne Kander and Landon Thomas Kander
Barry Richard (48) and Teresa Dene Kander (41)
Jacob Chandler Kander and Benjamin Alexander Kander (18)
Daniel Hakeem Kander and David Melaku Kander (21)
Liesl Adeline Kander, Johanna Grace Kander and Hans Jesse Kander. (20)
Marisa Rose Rigsby-Kander (16)
Rebecca Anne Rigsby-Kander (15)
Robert Quinn Kander, Richard Isaiah Kander, and Raymond Geoffrey Kander (11)
Hunter Matthias Kander, Harrison Todd Kander and Holden Maxwell Kander (7)
Adrienne Elizabeth Kander (5)
Larissa Harley Kander, Lorelei Breanne Kander and Landon Thomas Kander (2)Teresa
Favorite names:Arabella Primrose,Charlotte Madeline,Atticus Fletcher, Tobias Jackson
October 29th, 2012 06:36 PM #44Senior Member
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DW: Haley Marie Brawley
DH: Connor Patrick Brawley
Year 1:
I have triplet boys.
B/B/B: Declan Rhys & Callum Patrick & Riley Cormac
Year 2:
I have boy/boy/girl triplets.
B/B/G: Kason Adam & Kyler Jacob & Alexia Paige
Year 3:
I have boy/girl twins.
B/G: Zane Lennox & Leila Grace
Year 4:
Life Event: I am unexpectedly pregnant with twins
B/G: Xander Brock & Charlotte Lydia
Year 5:
Life Event: The family goes on vacation
We go to Orlando, Florida
Year 6:
I have a single baby girl
G: Eliza Leighton
Year 7:
I have twin boys
B/B: Parker Jordan & Porter Davis
Year 8:
Life Event: The family gets a dog
Golden Lab named Rex
Year 9:
We adopt triplet girls
G/G/G: Madelyn Judith & Keira Elizabeth & Emery Rachel
Year 10:
I have triplet boys
B/B/B: Gavin Michael & Gage Matthew & Griffin Miles
Year 11:
Life Event: A friend has a baby boy.
She names him Atticus Levi
Year 12:
Life Event: We adopt a baby boy
B: Kobe Crosby
Year 13:
I have boy/girl twins
B/G: Easton James & Alanna Summer
Year 14:
Life Event: The family goes on vacation
We go to Italy
Year 15:
I have girl/girl/boy triplets
G/G/B: Stella Hazel & Sophia Violet & Sawyer Dean
Year 16:
Life Event: I am unexpectedly pregnant with twin boys
B/B: Beckett Phoenix & Jaxon Slater
Year 17:
Life Event: My sister-in-law and I open a daycare center.
We call it "ABC Academy"
Year 18:
I have boy/girl twins
B/G: Lucas Andrew & Payton Sydney
Year 19:
I have triplet boys
B/B/B: Colton Paul & Rowan Tyler & Logan Harold
Year 20:
Life Event: The family adopts a new pet
A German shepherd named Dash
The Brawley Family
Haley & Connor
Declan & Callum & Riley & Kason & Kyler & Zane & Xander & Parker & Porter & Gavin & Gage & Griffin & Kobe & Easton & Sawyer & Beckett & Jaxon & Lucas & Colton & Rowan & Logan
Alexia & Leila & Charlotte & Eliza & Madelyn & Keira & Emery & Alanna & Stella & Sophia & Payton
Rex & Dash