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Canada: RCMP chastized for Islamist Engagement
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November 25, 2014, 12:21:05 PM »
Canadian Watchdog Report Chastises RCMP for Islamist Engagement
by John Rossomando
IPT News
November 24, 2014
A new report by Canada's Point de Bascule takes the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) to task for participating in a panel discussion Wednesday sponsored by the Muslim Students Association (MSA) at the University of Windsor. RCMP Superintendent Doug Best, who heads the Canadian law-enforcement agency's national security operations in Ontario, will appear alongside two Canadian Islamists.
"The upcoming event in Windsor is the latest example of an increasing and dangerous collaboration between Canada's security agencies and Islamists linked to the Muslim Brotherhood infrastructure," the Point de Bascule report says.
The program, "Violent Radicalization and It Impact on Muslims," also features two speakers with a history of supporting radical Islamists. One of those speakers is Muhammed Robert Heft who recently met with Taliban officials in Qatar in hopes of getting the Taliban to stand against the Islamic State. The other radical Islamist is law professor Faisal Kutty has been a spokesman for two charities accused of al-Qaida ties.
The host organization, MSA, was founded in 1963 by Muslim Brotherhood members at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana. It served as the organizational base from which the Islamist movement in North America sprang. A 2007 New York Police Department report found that extremists use MSAs as "forums for the development and recruitment of like-minded individuals."
Numerous individuals with MSA ties have been convicted or charged with terrorism-related offenses.
"However, if we look carefully at the organizations that they support and the goal that they pursue, they are indistinguishable from those defended by violent Islamists," said Marc Lebuis, director of Point de Bascule. "In fact, Islamists waging violent jihad and those waging what they call themselves the "jihad of the tongue" are executing a good cop/bad cop routine in front of our very eyes."
The "jihad of the tongue" involves calling non-believers to Islam, and it can accompany a military or political struggle. Muslim Brotherhood ideologue Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi contends that this sort of jihad can be waged by "calling others to Islam, highlighting the merits of Islam and preaching in the language of the target audience."
Qaradawi also notes that this "collective jihad of da'awah (Islamic preaching)" precedes military jihad.
The Hamas Charter similarly endorses the jihad of the tongue as a prong of its offensive against Israel and the Jews, Lebuis said.
"Jihad is not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy. The effective word, the good article, the useful book, support and solidarity - together with the presence of sincere purpose for the hoisting of Allah's banner higher and higher - all these are elements of the Jihad for Allah's sake," Hamas says in Article 30 of its 1988 charter.
Point de Bascule, a non-profit watchdog group that monitors the activities and operations of radical Islamic groups in Canada, warns that if those waging the "jihad of the tongue" on Canada's security infrastructure succeed, it will make the "task of neutralizing violent jihadists almost impossible."
The fruits of this engagement include a 2009 RCMP document "Words Make Worlds" that discourages police officers from using Islamic concepts to describe the Islamist threat. Michel Coulombe, director of Canada's Security Intelligence Service, testified in February that his agency prefers to refer to jihadism as "terrorism inspired by Al-Qaida ideology" rather than invoking Islamic terminology.
It's not a notion that will be challenged by the others on Wednesday's Windsor panel.
Muhammed Robert Heft is a Toronto-based convert imam who has advised the RCMP, Canadian parliamentarians along with U.S. and Australian government agencies counter-terrorism issues. Heft helped create a "Specialized De-Radicalization Intervention Program" modeled on Alcoholics Anonymous to work with radicalized Muslim youth. He also founded P4E Support Group, which states on its website that it exists to "assist Muslims converts."
Heft portrays himself as a moderate; however, his Facebook page raises questions about that. Earlier this month, Heft travelled to Doha, Qatar to meet with Taliban representatives at their "embassy" there.
"Please pray for the success of my mission. I am meeting with the head of the Taliban Embassy in Doha, Qatar and we are working on a treaty that would state clearly that the Taliban (Mujahideen) don't condone vigilante violence, Criminal acts or Terrorism in Non Muslim Countries. They have agreed to take it to Mullah Omar," Heft wrote Oct. 24. "This will hopefully put some doubt as to the legitimacy of ISIS and there(sic) Fatwas about killing indiscriminately."
He said that he had been in communication with the Taliban for the previous six months leading up to his announcement.
Such sentiments ignore the Taliban's history of indiscriminate killing of innocents and its support for Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida both before and since 9/11. Al-Qaida Emir Ayman Al-Zawahiri pledges his loyalty to Mullah Omar.
Canada's government added the Taliban to its list of terrorist organizations in 2013, noting that the terrorist group mostly relies on suicide bombings and improvised-explosive devices to kill indiscriminately.
Heft's Facebook page links to the website of Zakir Naik, a Muslim televangelist banned from entering Canada in 2010.
Naik described Jews as "our staunchest enemy" and endorsed Osama Bin Laden, saying:" If [Osama bin Laden] is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him If he is terrorizing a terrorist, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him."
Faisal Kutty, the third panelist at the MSA event, is a Valparaiso University law professor in Indiana..
Kutty served on the board of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) Canada office and worked as a spokesman for the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), a radical Saudi funded organization and the Benevolence International Foundation (BIF) both organizations linked to al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.
Kutty told journalists that BIF "provides succor for the needy, not help for terrorists" and denied that Benevolence International Foundation had ties to Al-Qaida in October 2001, according to the Point de Bascule report.
The United Nations added BIF to its list of Taliban and al-Qaida supporting entities in November 2002, noting its active support for Bin Laden's activities in Bosnia, Pakistan, China, Chechnya and Russia. Three months later, BIF director Enaam Arnaout entered a plea agreement for diverting charitable donations to jihadists.
Kutty publicly defended WAMY in October 2001, telling a Canadian newspaper it was a "very respected organization" and that people "would be shocked" to hear allegations linking it with al-Qaida. But a Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) audit released in 2011 found that WAMY had served as "primary [source] of Al-Qaida financial and fundraising activity" in 1993 and that it "served a critical role in the Arab-Afghan terrorist infrastructure."
Furthermore, in 2003, David Kane, a special agent with U.S. Customs Service, signed an affidavit in which he revealed numerous radical, racist and terrorist activities supported by WAMY, including active support for Hamas' terrorist wing. Kane also cited the fact that WAMY published many books for Muslim youth promoting hatred of Christians and Jews. Kane quoted from one book as follows:
"[T]he seed of the Gulf-war was planted by a Jew; the Jews are enemies of the faithful, God and the angels; The Jews are humanity's enemies; they foment immorality in this world; The Jews are deceitful, they say something but mean the exact opposite; Who was behind the biological crisis which became like brain washing? A Jew; Who was behind the disintegration of family life and values? A Jew; The one that stirred-up hate and turned the individuals against their Muslim governments in the Arab peninsula - a Jew; Who promoted Atheism and made the countries thrive on Muslims' blood? The Jews; Every tragedy that inflicts the Muslims is caused by the Jews."
More recently, Kutty downplayed the role Islam plays in motivating jihadists. In a Nov. 22 column in the Windsor Star, he blamed "mental illness" for jihadist terrorist acts, including that of Parliament Hill shooter Michel Zehaf-Bibeau.
"In fact, a few 'radicals' that I have counselled were diagnosed schizophrenics," Kutty wrote.
The report shows that , the RCMP fallen into the same trap as some U.S. law enforcement agencies in that have established close relations with radical Islamist groups who pretend to be moderate. The danger is that the RCMP legitimizes militant groups and radicals who should be shunned rather than dignified as respected moderate allies of the Canadian government in its war against war against Islamic terrorism.
By embracing Islamic extremists who masquerade as moderates, the RCMP effectively has ostracized genuine Islamic moderates in Canada who deserve recognition for their courage in speaking out against the terrorists.
Read the full Point de Bascule report here.
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Islam's Idea of Peace is not Ours...
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December 01, 2014, 09:33:45 AM »
Peace With Islam in Our Time
Posted By Daniel Greenfield On November 27, 2014
Abdallah Bulgasem Zehaf-Bibeau, the crackhead turned Jihadist spawned by the mating of a Canadian immigration official and a Libyan Muslim Jihadist, just wanted peace.
He told a co-worker, There cant be world peace until theres only Muslims. Then he tried to usher in peace, the Islamic way, by opening fire near the Canadian parliament.
Meanwhile in Israel a reporter interviewing Arab Muslim settlers in Jerusalem found that they too wanted peace. On their terms.
Yes we want peace, one of them said, but peace means no Jews.
When negotiating peace with other cultures its a good idea to make sure that the words you are using mean the same thing. Most Muslims and Westerners want peace. But to Westerners peace means co-existence. To Muslims, peace means the end of your existence.
Ideas carry heavy cultural baggage. Peace in the West summons up images of Armistice Day, of the Christmas Truce of WW1 in which French, German and English soldiers could share meals and play soccer together. It carries with it the subversive idea that both sides realize the war isnt worth fighting.
Such a subversive idea has no place in Islam. The Jihad is at the heart of Islam. To question the holy war is to also question the faith. When war is religion then peace through setting aside war is heresy.
The Western idea of peace is a wholly alien one to Islam. In Islam, peace does not come from men transcending their differences, but from destroying men who think and live differently. That is the function of the religious police of our allied moderate Muslim countries who seek out the practice of other religions and other ways of living in places like Saudi Arabia and suppress their practitioners.
Islamic peace does not come from diversity, from accepting the existence of other nations, religions and peoples, but from unity through Islam and eliminating as many differences as possible. If Islam is the source of peace, then all that which is not Islam is the cause of war.
Kill the Jews. Kill the Christians. Then there will be peace.
The Islamic idea of peace was aptly expressed by Zehaf-Bibeau and our anonymous Jerusalem Jihadist. It is not based on a recognition of the humanity of ones fellow man, but on a rejection of their humanity.
As Mohammed curtly put it in missives to the leaders of non-Muslim countries in the region, Aslim, Taslam. Convert to Islam and youll have peace. The same message has been dispatched by Muslim leaders today to popes and presidents. Its a message of peace on the only terms that Islam allows.
Islam is the religion of peace. For there to be peace, Islam must be supreme. Within the Islamic worldview, conflict is caused by the existence of dissent. The only way to achieve peace is by forcing the submission of every human being to the correct strain of Islam. Moderates may agree to let Jews and Christians live as inferior second-class citizens if they submit to Muslims. Extremists will skip straight to raping and beheading them. And once that ugly business is done, there will be peace.
Or there will be peace once the moderates and extremists have finished killing each other, once the Sunnis and Shiites have finished beheading each other, and once every single Muslim has finished slaughtering every other Muslim who in any way dissents from his understanding of Islam.
Thats the brand of peace were seeing in Iraq and Syria today. Or the peace process between Israel and the Arab Muslims who were rebranded as Palestinians because it made them seem like a local flavor.
Islam rejects the idea that mutual empathy should transcend conflict. Instead it believes that war should transcend humanity. Or as the Koran puts it, Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.
The Western tradition is biased toward the peace of co-existence. It applies the logic of armistice toward all areas of life leading to the championing of multiculturalism and immigration. Its siren song is John Lennons Imagine with its call for an end to borders, nations, religions and property. Its ideal of peace comes from the end of structure and separation between people.
The Islamic idea of peace however affirms a structure and separation based on the Koran. It believes that there will be peace when everyone is forced to live within the strictures of Islam. And therefore there can be no genuine peace with non-Muslims who do not submit to Islam.
These two incompatible notions of peace continue to collide. Imagine if French soldiers had clambered out to sing and play soccer only to be gunned down by German soldiers who had a fundamentally different idea of peace. This was actually how WW2 was shaped as the victorious side played by outdated rules while Nazi Germany, Japan and the USSR shifted to a thoroughly totalitarian mentality.
Munich was a disaster because Hitler was not the Kaiser. The other side was no longer willing to play by any rules, even in diplomatic negotiations, or to accept anything short of total victory. The Allies were forced to match their enemies in a ruthless war that saw entire cities destroyed.
The Nazis and Communists were the products of years of indoctrination that taught them to see opponents as less than human and peace as being obtainable only through their destruction. Japan, which had a longer history of dehumanizing outsiders, proved to be an even tougher nut to crack.
Islam has a history of over a thousand years of continuously dehumanizing non-Muslims and identifying peace and their enslavement as one and the same. It is impossible to live in peace with Muslims who think that there can be no peace as long as non-Muslims continue to live independent lives.
In the Muslim worldview, war happens because non-Muslims exist. War is caused by the infidel, the disbeliever and the Muslim hypocrite who does not truly commit to the practice of Islam. The Jihad purifies the world of non-Muslims; it eradicates the moderate Muslims who have been compromised by Western culture. It is a war of extermination against the un-Islamic.
When Westerners propose peace, Muslims reject them as hypocrites for speaking of peace, but refusing to accept the only religion that can bring peace. They feel no obligation to honor any peace agreements since peace can only come from Islam and the Western rejection of Islam proves our deceitfulness and bad intentions. This dynamic is inherent in the Koran and the entire history of Islam.
Islam does not obtain peace through peace, but through war. It seeks a world without conflict by killing anyone who might disagree with its totalitarian ideology.
Proposing the peace of co-existence to an ideology to which peace means its own supremacy is a foolish and deranged act. Our outreach to the Muslim world does not lack for a common language, but for common ideas. Both sides may speak of peace, but for one side peace really means war.
Languages are not only made up of words, but of values. It is not enough to bring a dictionary to a negotiation if the two parties are reading from different moral and ethical traditions. Just because we translate Salaam as peace and agree that we both want peace does not mean that we have the same idea of what peace is.
The West sees peace as living side by side with Muslims. Muslims see peace as the end of the West.
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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NYPD cop killer worked for Hamas linked group
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December 23, 2014, 08:16:08 AM »
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Re: NYPD cop killer worked for Hamas linked group
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December 23, 2014, 09:00:17 AM »
Quote from: Crafty_Dog on December 23, 2014, 08:16:08 AM
Wait, a Muslim involved in a violent act? NFW!
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Pre-emptive dhimmitude at Duke
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January 14, 2015, 01:52:36 PM »
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Sharia courts begin in Texas
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January 29, 2015, 10:39:51 AM »
Pam Geller does great work but unfortunately she regularly leaves out points uncomfortable to her conclusions.
Working from memory, here she fails to examine that such religious "courts" exist for other religions, including Jewish, and the implications thereof.
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MB meets with Congress folks
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January 29, 2015, 01:02:50 PM »
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Gun range bans Muslims
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January 30, 2015, 12:02:23 AM »
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CA High School Principal Responds to Concerns over Hijab Day with Smears...
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January 30, 2015, 10:21:48 AM »
NP3 High School Principal Responds to Concerns over Hijab Day with Smears
Posted By Robert Spencer On January 30, 2015
The exchange below is yet another example of how one side of the debate about Sharia and jihad is trying to have a rational discussion, while the other responds only with slogans and smears. A woman in California responded to my call yesterday to write to NP3 High School principal Tom Rutten. She then received the email below, which is drearily predictable with its cries of hate and lack of specific response to any of the concerns she raised. She kindly forwarded this response to me, and I wrote the third email below to Rutten.
I dont expect a response, or at least one that deals with the points I raised, so I thought Id post all three emails here so that you can see which side here is being reasonable, and what happens when those whose political views are not favored ask reasonable questions.
Meanwhile, Hamas-linked CAIR is crowing over this ridiculous piece on the controversy, and well they should crow, as only their point of view is represented. Fox 40 made no attempt to contact me, of course, or to speak with anyone who wrote letters to the school expressing concern over Hijab Day. The whole thing is dismissed, as always in the mainstream media, as bigotry on that, see my email to Rutten below. The Fox 40 story is also riddled with errors. I did not name the student responsible for Hijab Day in my post, as you can see here. The principals name is Rutten, not Sutten.
And of course Fox 40 makes no mention of CAIRs ties to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, the jihad terror convictions of several of its former officials, the fact that the United Arab Emirates designated it a terror organization, etc. But it does go out of its way to say I (without naming me) am anti-Muslim, without bothering to note the issues regarding the oppression of women and religion-and-state involved here. Typical sloppy and one-sided mainstream media story. In posting it, Hamas-linked CAIR has disabled comments, as they always do. That in itself is telling.
1. Concerned citizen to Tom Rutten:
I am a taxpayer, Girl Scout leader, and public education advocate in Southern California, and I am writing to express my shock, dismay, and disappointment at learning that a school in your district, the Natomas Unified School District, held a Hijab Day today, encouraging all girls and women to wear hijabs. This is outrageous.
Its outrageous primarily because it brought religion into a public school in a way that directly conflicts with the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits school-sponsored prayer and religious indoctrination. Encouraging girls and women to wear hijabs for modesty is clearly an example of religious indoctrination. Can you imagine the public outrage if a Jewish student requested Yarmulke Day and all men and boys at the school were urged to wear a head covering of the type that Jewish men and boys wear? Its unimaginable. For your future use, heres a guideline on Religion in Schools produced by the ACLU:
Additionally, its astounding because, per the flyer, Hijab Day was organized by, or encouraged by the Muslim Students Association, which is considered by many national security experts to be tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. In other words, tied to terrorism. I could provide you a dozen links to articles about this, but perhaps youd like to do your own google search. Its out there.
I know that you are a busy man, Mr. Rutten, but I really would like to understand why the NP3 thought this was acceptable. If youd please reply to me, Id appreciate that.
2. Tom Rutten to the concerned citizen:
Since this was a student run event I have attached the student response below.
Tom Rutten
At a time when anti-Muslim sentiment is growing, I wanted to let my classmates and teachers know about the challenges that young Muslim women face when they put on a headscarf. It is unfortunate that a small effort to promote mutual understanding would provoke such a hate-filled and irrational response.
NP3 Hijab Day was part of my Senior Project, meant to bring awareness to my campus about the misconceptions surrounding Islam, particularly those surrounding the headscarf. I invited a speaker to talk to faculty about addressing Islamophobia in the classroom and the challenges in the Muslim world, and they appreciated the open and frank discussion.
The irrational reaction by some intolerant individuals is similar to the many manufactured controversies nationwide over the teaching of basic information about Islam, the faith of one-fifth of the worlds population, in public schools. In many other cases, any discussion of Islam or American Muslims brings about this reaction.
The person who promoted the misinformation about this issue, Robert Spencer, is one of the most notorious Islamophobes in America.
This extreme reaction clearly demonstrates why this presentation was needed in the first place.
South Poverty Law Centers profile on Robert Spencer:
3. Robert Spencer to Tom Rutten:
Dear Mr. Rutten:
Thank you for your kind response to Ms. [redacted], which she forwarded to me.
The message from your student was most interesting. I trust that you have explained to her that to respond to the concerns voiced by Ms. [redacted] and others by linking to a smear piece on me is an example of the ad hominem fallacy: attacking the person voicing the concerns rather than the concerns themselves. The Southern (not South) Poverty Law Center attack piece is also highly inaccurate and misleading. The FBI, in fact, even stopped using the SPLCs work on hate groups last year, in light of the fact that the SPLC had stopped tracking real hate groups and was using the label to smear those who disagreed with its political views.
I am not going to try your patience by showing the falsehood of all of SPLCs smear claims; suffice it for the moment to point out that I have led seminars on Islam and jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, the U.S. Armys Asymmetric Warfare Group, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, and the U.S. intelligence community.
I trust that you also have explained or will explain to your student that to dismiss all concern about NP3 Hijab Day as hate-filled, irrational, and Islamophobic doesnt contribute in the least to open and frank discussion, but actually forecloses on the possibility of such a discussion by trying to intimidate people into thinking that concerns they thought were legitimate are actually manifestations of a bigotry they were not aware they had. This is just the opposite of open and frank discussion, and I am sure you would agree that this kind of name-calling, intimidation, and groupthink should not be encouraged in academic settings at any level.
For your convenience, here are the major concerns that people have about the NP3 Hijab Day event:
1. FBI statistics show that hate crimes against Muslims, which are never justified, are actually quite uncommon, with hate crimes against Jews being over four times more common. Details here:
Yet I would venture to guess that there has been no event at NP3 High to call attention to the challenges that Jews face, and that none is in the works. I understand that NP3 Hijab Day was a student-run event. Would a Jewish or pro-Israel student be allowed to stage a similar Day calling attention to anti-Semitism? If this included the rise in Islamic anti-Semitism in Europe and elsewhere, would this be allowed? Would you allow a Yarmulke Day at NP3 High?
2. CAIR and the MSA appear to have been involved in this event. Both were named unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land trial, which involved funneling money to the terror group Hamas. Both have demonstrable ties, documented and noted by the FBI, with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. See, for example, these links:
Is it really wise to allow people from organizations that have ties to terror groups to interact with NP3 students?
3. As I am sure youre aware, even student-run events by Christian students have come under fire in public schools in recent years, and many see them as a violation of the Establishment Clause. Would you allow a Wear the Cross Day? I have never heard of such an event in any public school except in conjunction with protests against it on Constitutional grounds. Do you not think this is a double standard and one perpetuated by Hijab Day at NP3 High?
4. Many women and girls around the world have been brutalized and even killed for not wearing a hijab. A list of some of them, with further links to the relevant news stories, is at this link:
Are you not concerned that NP3s Hijab Day might end up justifying and helping perpetuate the pretexts for this oppression? What steps did you take to ensure that that did not happen? If a student wanted to hold a Day calling attention to the oppression of women that is all too often justified by Islamic law, would that be allowed at NP3?
I hope these questions make it clear that there are legitimate concerns regarding NP3s Hijab Day, and to dismiss them as hate-filled is simply an attempt to shut down the public discussion that is needed on these issues. I look forward to receiving your answers to these questions. Also, I would be happy to come to NP3 High School at my own expense, in order to engage in an open forum with students on these and related issues, and to ensure that the open and frank discussion on these issues at NP3 High is not dominated solely by one perspective only. We can settle on a mutually agreeable date for this open forum at your convenience I can be reached at this email address and at [redacted].
Robert Spencer
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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Islamic State Recruiting U.S. Teens...
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February 05, 2015, 02:16:51 PM »
FBI official: Islamic State is recruiting U.S. teens
How could this be? Obama, Kerry, Biden, David Cameron, and everyone else assures us that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam. So why is it so appealing to young Muslims in the West? Why are Muslim parents encouraging their children to join it? The cognitive dissonance is massive, and the FBI isnt doing what it should be doing: calling upon U.S. Muslims to teach against the Islamic States ideology. Right now, it is not being countered with any organized program in U.S. mosques or Islamic schools, and no one seems to care.
FBI official: ISIS is recruiting U.S. teens, by Pamela Brown and Wesley Bruer, CNN, February 4, 2015 (thanks to Aron):
Washington (CNN)For the head of the FBIs counterterrorist division, Michael Steinbach, the unknown worries him the most.
Steinbach is leading the daunting effort to stay on top of the evolving threat landscape, which includes targeting and recruiting teenage Americans. In an exclusive interview with CNN inside the agencys Strategic Information and Operations Center, he acknowledged its extremely difficult to track every American who might travel abroad to join terrorist groups like the Islamic State.
Im worried about individuals that we dont know about that have training, Steinbach said. We know what we know. But there is a number thats greater than that that we dont know.
Steinbach says U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies dont track individuals leaving the United States to vacation in Europe.
Once you get to Europe, you can easily get down to Turkey and into Syria Steinbach says.
Theres growing concern about homegrown violent extremism in the aftermath of last months terror attacks in Paris. Those strikes underscored the threat posed to the West by small groups of terrorists with western passports who are influenced by the rhetoric espoused by ISIS. Steinbach is concerned that type of attack could happen on U.S. soil.
When asked if there are ISIS cells in the U.S., Steinbach said there are individuals that have been in communication with groups like ISIL who have a desire to conduct an attack and those people are living in the U.S. right now, but he says the term sleeper cells is too simplistic, because the threat is much more complicated and diffuse.
In the U.S., the FBI has seen children as young as 15 recruited by ISIS and Steinbach said he cant speak with 100% certainty that individuals of that age group have not gotten over there successfully.
In some cases, Steinbach said parents even encourage their children to be involved with terror groups.
There are individuals out there who are inspired by the message of terrorist groups and they encourage family members, including their children, to follow that path, he said, adding in those cases, the FBI holds the parents responsible
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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Obama: "Christianity just as bad as Islam"...
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February 06, 2015, 08:11:44 AM »
Obama: Christianity No Different Than the Islamic State
Posted By Raymond Ibrahim On February 6, 2015
As the world reacts with shock and horror at the increasingly savage deeds of the Islamic State (IS)in this case, the recent immolation of a captiveU.S. President Obamas response has been one of nonjudgmental relativism.
Speaking at the National Prayer Breakfast on February 5, Obama counseled Americans to get off their high horse and remember that Christians have been equally guilty of such atrocities:
Unless we get on our high horse and think this [beheadings, sex-slavery, crucifixion, roasting humans] is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ.
There is so much to be said here. First, the obvious: the wide gulf between violence and hate justified in the name of Christ and violence and hate justified in the name of Muhammad is that Christ never justified it, while Muhammad continuously did.
This is not just a theoretic point; it is the very reason that Muslims are still committing savage atrocities. Every evil act IS commitswhether beheading, crucifying, raping, enslaving, or immolating humanshas precedents in the deeds of Muhammad, that most perfect and moral man, per Koran 33:21 and 68:4 (see The Islamic State and Islam for parallels).
Does Obama know something about Christwho eschewed violence and told people to love and forgive their enemiesthat we dont? Perhaps hes clinging to that solitary verse that academics like Philip Jenkins habitually highlight, that Christwho spoke to the multitudes in parables and without a parable spoke not once said, I come not to bring peace but a sword. (Matt. 10:34, 13:34).
Jesus was not commanding violence against non-Christians but rather predicting that Christians will be persecuted, including by family members (as, for example, when a Muslim family slaughters their child for apostatizing to Christianity as happens frequently).
Conversely, in its fatwa justifying the burning of the Jordanian captive, the Islamic State cites Muhammad putting out the eyes of some with heated irons (he also cut their hands and feet off). The fatwa also cites Khalid bin al-Walidthe heroic Sword of Allahwho burned apostates to death, including one man whose head he set on fire to cook his dinner on.
Nor is the Islamic State alone in burning people. Recently a mob accused of burning alive a Christian couple in an industrial kiln in Pakistan allegedly wrapped a pregnant mother in cotton so she would catch fire more easily.
As for the Islamic authorities, Al Azharthe Islamic worlds oldest and most prestigious university which cohosted Obamas 2009 New Beginning speechstill assigns books that justify every barbarity IS commits, including burning people alive. Moreover, Al Azhara religious institution concerned with what is and is not Islamichas called for the cutting off of the hands and feet of IS members, thereby legitimizing such acts according to Islamic law.
On the other hand, does Obama know of some secret document in the halls of the Vatican that calls for amputating, beheading or immolating enemies of Christ to support his religious relativism?
As for the much maligned Crusades, Obama naturally follows the mainstream academic narrative that anachronistically portrays the crusaders as greedy, white, Christian imperialists who decided to conquer peace-loving Muslims in the Middle East.
Again, familiarity with the true sources and causes behind the Crusades shows that they were a response to the very same atrocities being committed by the Islamic State today. Consider the words of Pope Urban II, spoken almost a millennium ago, and note how well they perfectly mirror IS behavior:
From the confines of Jerusalem and the city of Constantinople a horrible tale has gone forth and very frequently has been brought to our ears, namely, that a race from the kingdom of the Persians [i.e., Muslim Turks] has invaded the lands of those Christians and has depopulated them by the sword, pillage and fire; it has led away a part of the captives into its own country [as slaves], and a part it has destroyed by cruel tortures; it has either entirely destroyed the churches of God or appropriated them for the rites of its own religion . What shall I say of the abominable rape of the women? To speak of it is worse than to be silent . On whom therefore is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you? You, upon whom above other nations God has conferred remarkable glory in arms, great courage, bodily activity, and strength
If the crusaders left their own lands and families to come to the aid of persecuted Christians and to liberate Jerusalem, here is Obama portraying them as no better than the Islamic Statewhich isnt surprising considering that, far from helping persecuted Christians, Obamas policies have significantly worsened their plight.
According to primary historical textsnot the modern day fantasies peddled by the likes of Karen Armstrong, an ex-nun with an axe to grindMuslim persecution of Christians was indeed a primary impetus for the Crusades.
As for the Inquisition, this too took place in the context of Christendoms struggle with Islam. (Isnt it curious that the European nation most associated with the Inquisition, Spain, was also the only nation to be conquered and occupied by Islam for centuries?) After the Christian reconquest of Spain, Muslims, seen as untrustworthy, were ordered either to convert to Christianity or go back to Africa whence they came. Countless Muslims feigned conversion by practicing taqiyya and living as moles, always trying to subvert Spain back to Islam. Hence the extreme measures of the Inquisitionwhich, either way, find no support in the teachings of Christ.
Conversely, after one of his jihads, Muhammad had a man tortured to death in order to reveal his tribes hidden treasure and married the same mans wife hours later. Unsurprisingly, the woman, Safiya, later confessed that Of all men, I hated the prophet the mostfor he killed my husband, my brother, and my father, before marrying her.
In short, Obamas claim that there will always be people willing to hijack religion for their own murderous ends is patently false when applied to the Islamic State and like organizations and individuals.
Muhammad himself called for the murder of his enemies; he permitted Muslims to feign friendship to his enemies in order to assassinate them; he incited his followers to conquer and plunder non-believers, promising them a sexual paradise if they were martyred; he kept sex slaves and practiced pedophilia with his child-bride, Aisha.
He, the prophet of Islam, did everything the Islamic State is doing.
If Muslims are supposed to follow the sunna, or example, of Muhammad, and if Muhammad engaged in and justified every barbarity being committed by the Islamic State and other Muslimshow, exactly, are they hijacking Islam?
Such is the simple logic Obama fails to grasp. Or else he does grasp itbut hopes most Americans dont.
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POTH: US Muslims take on ISIS recruitment
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February 21, 2015, 09:49:43 AM »
U.S. Muslims Take On ISIS Recruiting Machine
By LAURIE GOODSTEINFEB. 19, 2015
STERLING, Va. Imam Mohamed Magid tries to stay in regular contact with the teenager who came to him a few months ago, at his familys urging, to discuss how he was being wooed by online recruiters working for the Islamic State, the extremist group in Syria and Iraq.
But the imam, a scholar bursting with charm and authority, has struggled to compete. Though he has successfully intervened in the cases of five other young men, persuading them to abandon plans to fight overseas, the Islamic States recruiting efforts have become even more disturbing, he said, and nonstop.
The recruiters wouldnt leave him alone, Imam Magid said of the young man he met with recently. They were on social media with him at all hours, they tweet him at night, first thing in the morning. If I talk to him for an hour, they undo him in two hours.
President Obama on Wednesday described the fight against violent extremism as a generational challenge that would require the cooperation of governments, religious leaders, educators and law enforcement. But even before he called on more than 60 nations to join the effort, the rise of the Islamic State and the attacks by homegrown terrorists in Paris, Ottawa, Copenhagen and Sydney, Australia, had jolted American Muslims into action.
Muslim leaders here and elsewhere have already started organizing or expanding prevention programs and discussions on countering violent extremism, often with assistance from law enforcement officials and trained counter-recruiters who emphasize that the Internets dangers for young Muslims now go far beyond pornography.
With the Islamic State in particular deploying savvy online appeals to adolescents alongside videos of horrific executions, the sense of urgency has grown. Though some Muslim leaders still resist cooperating with the government, fearing that they would be contributing to religious profiling and anti-Muslim bigotry, many have been spurred to respond as they have come into contact with religiously ardent youths who feel alienated by life in the West and admit that they have been vulnerable to the Islamic States invitation to help build a puritanical utopia.
The number is small, but one person who gets radicalized is one too many, said Rizwan Jaka, a father of six and the board chairman of the All Dulles Area Muslim Society, where Imam Magid is the spiritual leader. Its a balancing act: We have to make sure our youth are not stereotyped in any way, but were still dealing with the real issue of insulating them from any potential threat of radicalization.
In practice, it often means one-on-one conversations with Muslims like Amir, a 22-year-old computer programmer in Virginia who said he was drawn to extremist videos from the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, because he was a new convert struggling with how to live out his faith in the United States. He said he chafed at having to work in an office with Muslim women who covered their heads but wore clothing he considered too tight. He also did not like seeing photographs of people on the walls, or advertisements for credit cards, which he said Islam strictly forbids. Every time I mentioned it, no one heard me out, he said. I definitely felt like a stranger.
He said his disenchantment with the Islamic State began when the group beheaded Peter Kassig, who reports said was a Muslim convert, and later executed a Jordanian pilot. Amir then had some long talks with Imam Magid, who pointed him to passages in the Quran that forbid killing other Muslims, innocent women and children. Amir concluded that the Islamic State was only sowing chaos and hatred, which the Prophet Muhammad abhorred.
The Islamic State once looked like eye candy to me, said Amir, who was willing to be identified only by his first name because he did not want to attract the attention of extremists. But now I think they are deviants.
Imam Magid described Amir as the kind of person who is vulnerable to ISIS an alienated young Muslim with a black-and-white worldview, looking for purpose and adventure. But, he added, it is often hard to identify which people are most at risk.
Here in suburban Virginia where Muslim parents tend to be professionals whose children are enmeshed in American culture and are more likely to spend time at the mall than watching extremist videos the threat still feels remote, especially for those who are active in mosques. Many homegrown extremists in the West were converts who had little exposure to the faith, or education in it.
Many parents and religious leaders are struggling with where to focus their efforts. Imam Magid, who is in regular communication with the F.B.I. and other law enforcement agencies, said the young men he had counseled came from a variety of family backgrounds.
Humera Khan, the founder of Muflehun, a think tank based in Washington that focuses on countering violent extremism, said that increasingly, there is no consistent profile of those who are targeted for recruitment or drawn to Islamic extremists.
There are no patterns, and thats making it harder for everyone, she said in an interview in Virginia late last month. They can come from every ethnic, socioeconomic group, any geographic area. But they are more often men than women, and theyre getting younger.
Officials estimate that about 150 Americans have traveled, or tried to travel, to fight in Syria. That is fewer than in France, where 1,000 people are estimated to have gone to Syria, or England, which has counted about 600, not including those who were in touch with extremists online and decided not to join.
Imam Magid said that in addition to those he had talked out of going, he knew of one young Muslim from Virginia who recently left to join the Islamic State in Syria. (He said he had never met this man or had a chance to dissuade him.)
In Chicago in October, two brothers, ages 19 and 16, and their 17-year-old sister were detained at the airport on their way to Turkey to join the Islamic State. Three girls from Denver, one as young as 15, were stopped at an airport in Germany the same month on their way to join militants in Syria. All were reportedly recruited over the Internet. And that has provoked new levels of introspection, both private and public, among American Muslims of all ages.
At a forum for Muslim millennials in Washington sponsored by the Muslim Public Affairs Council last year, college students and Muslim leaders speculated about why a group as barbaric as the Islamic State had successfully attracted any Muslims at all from the West.
ISIS says: Come here. Weve got ripped warriors, said Imam Suhaib Webb, a popular Muslim leader who moved from Boston to the Washington area last month. Its a very simplistic response, but its somewhat effective.
He said that in more than 15 years as an imam, he had encountered only five Muslims considering whether they should join violent militant groups, and that none of them had actually left the United States to fight. They were all males, said Imam Webb, and they all had daddy issues. He added, They were not really drawn to this on theological grounds.
Ms. Khan, who has four degrees from M.I.T., left lucrative consulting work to develop a prevention program that addresses extremism and the way that technology can be used for manipulation. At one of her events last year, about 30 young Muslims, both high school and middle school students, gathered at the Farmington Valley American Muslim Center in Avon, Conn., for what was billed as a cybersafety workshop, with Ms. Khan moving swiftly from how to detect online pedophiles to how to detect Islamist extremists.
They are telling you, Lets go fight. They are asking you to share gruesome images, said Ms. Khan, who wore a blue floral-print head scarf. Be very careful. These people are not your friends. She told the students, who were quick to raise their hands and ask questions, to avoid contact with strangers online, or with anyone who demanded secrecy. The sexual predators are usually male, she told them, but the extremist recruiters can be male or female, and some of them can be, or can pretend to be, teenagers, too. Her presentation included a picture of a wolf zipped into a sheeps skin.
Have you guys heard of grooming? she asked them, using a term more often used in relation to sexual predators. They will try to be your friend. They will be nice to you, spend lots of time with you. Some of them will be sending you gifts.
Programs like this have not been embraced as a widespread priority by American Muslims, at least until recently, in part because the problem seemed to be overseas, not here, Muslim leaders say. And since many American Muslims are immigrants or African-Americans, there is substantial fear and suspicion of law enforcement officials, along with simple defensiveness and denial.
The family says, Its not going to happen to me, said M. Saud Anwar, a pulmonologist and the first Muslim to be elected as a mayor in Connecticut, where he serves South Windsor.
Imam Magid, speaking upstairs at his Muslim center while a team of Muslim girls pounded out a basketball game below, said that real prevention meant programs that give young people as much purpose and inspiration as extremists promise. Once young Muslims buy into the ideology, he said, it is very hard to pry them loose. You have to reach them before it happens, he said.
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Re: "US Muslims Take on ISIS Recruiting Machine"
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This is certainly a positive and hopeful development IF it is true. Since it comes from The New York Times - I am highly suspicious of the veracity of the information therein.
I'm not aware of any widespread program like this within the American Muslim community - let alone the Muslim community in Europe. Muslims with whom I have talked here in the Atlanta area are all either quietly supportive if ISIS, ignorant of the actual teachings of the Koran and Hadith (Muslims in name only) or genuinely afraid to speak out against Islamic terror for fear of repercussions from their local Mosque and community.
I take this story with a grain of salt. If I see more evidence emerge that this is actually taking place in any significant way - that will be a good thing. The NYT has no more credibility to me than any other left-leaning rag. Everything it publishes is suspect ipso facto.
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Re: Islam in America
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Exactly so.
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Re: Islam in America
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Funny how young people from other religions seem to not have this problem.
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"Brother Rashid" - Why Obama is Wrong About ISIL...
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February 26, 2015, 07:22:03 AM »
Compelling video - echoes what Robert Spencer has been saying for years - but this from a former Muslim himself:
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FBI Agent: NYC Jihadis "Violated The True Tenants of Their Faith"...
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Hilarious - if it weren't so sad:
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Re: Islam in America
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Re: Islam in America
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I dunno. We had a substantial Jewish population in my junior high and when it came to Passover and Yum Kippor we just stayed out to go to synagogue. It was not a big deal and no one that I recall demanded the entire city's public schools close down for those holidays:
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Media whitewashing of Muslim terrorism...
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March 09, 2015, 11:13:05 AM »
Never Mind the Terrorism, Find the Toyota
Posted By Daniel Greenfield On March 9, 2015
When Julissa Magdalena Maradiaga-Iscoa rammed her car into a police vehicle while trying to drive through the Miami airport entrance and was then arrested after shouting in Arabic about a bomb, the media did its best to get all the important details right.
The AP made sure to mention that she was driving a silver Toyota. It failed to mention that she was Muslim or that her Facebook page describes her as a Shaheeda, a holy warrior, a term Muslims use to refer to their terrorists. A few American media outlets did report that she was an illegal alien, but only the Spanish language ones told their readers that she had converted to Islam.
Such minor details have become the first casualties of the War on Terror.
That Maradiaga-Iscoa chose to rename herself Shaheeda Hadee tells us more about her state of mind than the color of the car that she was driving. The make of her car is far less important than that her social media likes and follows included Zakir Naik, who said Every Muslim should be a terrorist.
In Saudi Arabia, Secretary of State John Kerry had ducked a question about Zakir Naik receiving an award from the Saudi King. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki condemned Naiks views, but defended Saudi Arabia as a key partner. This doublethink on Islam has become typical of our Islam policy.
Other of Maradiaga-Iscoas follows included Yasir Qadhi, a Holocaust denier and a favorite of the Christmas bomber, whose media company featured lectures by Al Qaeda recruiter Anwar Al-Awlaki. Also listed was Bilal Philips, an unindicted co-conspirator in the World Trade Center bombing, who was caught on video defending the Islamic rape of prepubescent girls.
No actual bomb was found on Maradiaga-Iscoa. Her family claims that shes mentally ill, and perhaps she is, but the media still chose to censor highly relevant information about her ideology. The same media that chose to blow up atheist quotes by Richard Dawkins used by the Chapel Hill man who shot three Muslims over a parking spot has buried her enthusiasm for figures with actual terrorist links.
And its not the first time that this has happened.
Last year two Muslims carried out attacks against NYPD officers. Both of them invoked Jihad. One of the cases was even classified as terrorism. But most people dont even know who the perpetrators were.
The media spent more debating whether the first attacker used a hatchet or an axe.
The media has dogmatically covered up the terrorist ties of Nidal Hassan, the Fort Hood shooter, while insisting that Anders Behring Breivik was a Christian and Zionist anti-Muslim terrorist despite the fact that he had contemplated carrying out terrorist attacks on behalf of Muslims, denied belief in any deity and stated that his only interest in Israel was as a deportation-port for disloyal jews.
Breivik, like Maradiaga-Iscoa, was probably mentally ill. Unlike Maradiaga-Iscoa, the media spun the story the other way despite plenty of evidence of delusions in Breiviks manifesto. But the media did insist that Nidal Hassan may have somehow contracted PTSD from the soldiers at the base.
Its not just that the media covers up Islamic affiliations in violent incidents, but that it exaggerates non-Muslim affiliations to make Islam seem victimized even when the evidence points the other way.
Thats what happened at Chapel Hill. Thats what happened in Miami.
None of this is news. Its a narrative. When it comes to violence involving Muslims (and any number of other subjects) the news is shaped to fit the narrative. The Chapel Hill killers atheism was important because it could be twisted to make it seem that his killings had a religious motive. Had he shot three Christians, that angle would never have been played up. Maradiaga-Iscoas religion and her interest in a man who said Every Muslim should be a terrorist cuts against the narrative and is cut out of the news.
The narrative is simple and straightforward. Islam can never be a motive for violence. Other religions, and even lack of religion, can always be assumed to be a motive for violence against Muslims.
We have heard far more about the Chapel Hill killers atheism than we ever did about Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaevs Islam. And yet the prosecutions case is that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev saw himself as a Shaheed, a holy warrior, bent on killing Americans on behalf of the Muslim Ummah.
We have mass media coverage of the trial of a terrorist mass murderer in which the prosecutions argument is not mentioned. But we do get lots of irrelevant Silver Toyota details about the killer.
Christians and Jews are taunted in the media with Timothy McVeigh and Baruch Goldstein, men whose actions are over twenty years old, but we still cant discuss the Islamic motivations of a killer from a few years ago or from last week. And if its not McVeigh and Goldstein, then its the Crusades. It can be anything and everything as long as it distracts us from dealing with a culture of Muslim violence today.
The one ideology that is involved in violence around the world is also the one we cant discuss. It exists only as a shadow. We see it in the news only in the constant defamation of Jews, Christians, Atheists, Buddhists and Hindus and any other group suffering from the ravages of Muslim violence that are smeared as violent bigots to make Islam look better. Those lies are the shadow of Muslim violence.
The Washington Post recently responded to the call by Republicans that Obama address Islamic Extremism by accusing the GOP of being infested with Islamophobia. This comes from the same paper which had suggested that ISIS rapists and butchers were victims.
The only way to make such a warped point of view palatable is to demonize non-Muslims while labeling critics of Islamic terrorism as bigots. Discussing Islamic intolerance is intolerant. If you talk about Islamic Christophobia or Judeophobia, then youre being Islamophobic. Intolerance toward Christians and Jews however is a sign of tolerance.
The extremes of Muslim violence that go beyond anything the media is capable of covering up can only be addressed with more extreme smears of their victims. That is why the media is always searching for Muslim victimization and denouncing Christian and Jewish extremism. As the media coverage of Israels conflict with Islamic terrorism has shown us, each Muslim terrorist atrocity leads to even more negative coverage of Israel. When Muslims appear to be perpetrators and non-Muslims victims, the media must step in to rebalance the scales to protect its narrative. A familiar symptom of this phenomenon is the ubiquitous Muslims fear backlash story that follows each Muslim terror attack in America or Europe.
This is not bias. Bias nudges the story. This is propaganda.
Propaganda grimly follows a narrative to the bitter end, whether its Baghdad Bobs non-existent American soldiers or the Soviet newsreader cheerfully informing listeners of a 95% successful harvest. Our medias coverage of Islamic terrorism is not biased or flawed; its propaganda.
Its not enough for propaganda to have heroes; it also needs villains to justify its failures.
The worse Islamic terrorism becomes, the more the media will have to smear us. A failed ideology directs most of the blame at its critics because they are represent the alternative to its lies.
The Washington Post denouncing Republicans as Islamophobes while defending ISIS is Baghdad Bob screaming at the camera. Its a Soviet newsreader claiming that the harvest would have been successful if not for the CIA. The lies are collapsing under the weight of Muslim violence. Christians and Jews cant be demonized fast enough to make ISIS seem palatable. The more the media is pushed, the faster it will implode.
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Glenn Beck tells NRA: "It's Grover Norquist or Me."
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Glenn Beck to NRA: Its Norquist or Me
Posted By Robert Spencer On March 16, 2015
Glenn Beck has declared that he will leave the National Rifle Association (NRA) if Republican Party kingmaker Grover Norquist remains on the Board of Directors.
This is long overdue: it has now been over eleven years since FrontPage Magazine first published revelations about what David Horowitz described as Norquists alliances with prominent Islamic radicals who have ties to the Saudis and to Libya and to Palestine Islamic Jihad, and who are now under indictment by U.S. authorities. Horowitz added:
Equally troubling is that the arrests of these individuals and their exposure as agents of terrorism have not resulted in noticeable second thoughts on Grovers part or any meaningful effort to dissociate himself from his unsavory friends.
Nothing has changed in the intervening years. Norquist has dismissed concerns about his ties to Islamic supremacists as bigotry and hatred, and this has apparently satisfied the Republican establishment and prominent conservative spokesmen until now, with Beck breaking ranks.
Becks peers and Republican leaders could have and should have ended Norquists baneful influence on the Republican Party and the conservative movement years ago. The November 1, 2001 issue of The New Republic (hardly a right-wing organ) noted that right after 9/11, President Bush met with several Muslim leaders with unsavory ties to the global jihad:
To the presidents left sat Dr. Yahya Basha, president of the American Muslim Council, an organization whose leaders have repeatedly called Hamas freedom fighters. Also in attendance was Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, who on the afternoon of September 11 told a Los Angeles public radio audience that we should put the State of Israel on the suspect list. And sitting right next to President Bush was Muzammil Siddiqi, president of the Islamic Society of North America, who last fall told a Washington crowd chanting pro-Hezbollah slogans, America has to learn if you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come. Days later, after a conservative activist confronted Karl Rove with dossiers about some of Bushs new friends, Rove replied, according to the activist, I wish I had known before the event took place.
Why didnt he? Because of Norquist, who
helped orchestrate various post-September 11 events that brought together Muslim leaders and administration officials Indeed, when Jewish activists and terrorism experts complained about the Muslim invitees to Adam Goldman, who works in the White House public liaisons office, Goldman replied that Norquist had vouched for them.
In 1999, the prominent American Muslim leader Abdurrahman Alamoudi, who is now in prison for financing al-Qaeda, wrote two $10,000 checks to Norquists Islamic Institute (aka the Islamic Free Market Institute). Alamoudi is also notorious for proclaiming to a Muslim rally in Washington in 2000: I have been labeled by the media in New York to be a supporter of Hamas. Anybody support Hamas here? Hear that, Bill Clinton? We are all supporters of Hamas. I wished they added that I am also a supporter of Hizballah. There is no indication that Norquist denounced Alamoudi, or returned his checks, after Alamoudis open embrace of jihad terror groups.
Even closer to Norquist is Suhail Khan, Norquists American Conservative Union (ACU) colleague. The ACU hosts the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the nations largest annual gathering of conservatives, and many observers have charged that Norquist and Khan have foreclosed on any honest discussion of the jihad threat at CPAC. Investigative journalist Paul Sperry revealed in the New York Post in January 2011 that Khan accepted an award from Alamoudi in 2001, commenting: Abdurahman Alamoudi has been very supportive of me. . . . I hope, inshallah, we can keep working together.
Sperry also noted that
in September 2001, four days before the 9/11 attacks, Khan spoke at the Islamic Society of North Americas convention .At the event, Khan shared his experiences from inside the White House, and praised his late father, Mahboob Khan, for helping found ISNA which the government now says is a front for the radical Muslim Brotherhood and has raised money for jihad .Khan vowed in his speech to carry on his fathers legacy.
There is much more on Norquists unsavory associations and activities, as you can see in these articles on Norquist by Daniel Greenfield, Pamela Geller, Patrick Poole, Jamie Glazov (interviewing Paul Sperry), and David Horowitz. Conservatives have suffered from being in Norquists shadow for too long. Particularly in these dark latter days of the Obama Administration, it is imperative that conservative candidates establish themselves as a genuine loyal opposition formulating a realistic and coherent alternative to Obamas disastrous pro-Muslim Brotherhood policies.
Grover Norquist is the biggest single obstacle preventing that from happening. Glenn Beck is to be commended for being the first major figure on the Right to stand up and say that Grover must go. We can only hope that others will soon follow suit.
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Pamela Geller's Ads to Run in Philly...
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Pamela Geller Wins Right to Run Ads in Philly
Posted By Matthew Vadum On March 17, 2015
A federal court has struck a blow for the First Amendment by ordering Philadelphias public transit system to accept an eye-opening ad that spotlights Islamic Jew-hatred and urges the United States to cut off foreign aid to Muslim countries.
The hard-hitting public service announcement, which contains a photograph of a real-life meeting between Adolf Hitler and Muslim leader and Nazi collaborator Hajj Amin al-Husseini, is sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), which was co-founded by conservative leader and blogger Pamela Geller. AFDI sued and placed the ad in New York City and Washington, D.C. public transit systems after litigating the matter in court. It has also attempted to place ads in transit systems in Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, San Francisco, and elsewhere.
Its just the latest in a string of legal victories for Geller.
For example, in 2012 Geller won her legal fight to post an anti-Islamist ad in the New York City subway system. Quoting Ayn Rand, the ad read, In any war between the civilized man and the savage support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad. The ad was a response to ads in the NYC subway promoting Islam and others accusing Israel of a number of things including being an obstacle to peace in the Middle East.
In Gellers view, Philadelphia desperately needs ads about the true nature of Islam because city council members there have honored Palestinian terrorist supporter Laila Ghannam. Ghannam, who is the District Governor of Ramallah for the Palestinian Authority, glorifies some of the most horrific Palestinian terrorist murderers, presenting them as heroes and role models, and promising to follow in their path. Ghannam has said that Islam sanctions the murder of Israeli civilians. Philadelphia also hosted the national anti-Israel boycott, divestment and sanctions conference in 2012, which took place at the University of Pennsylvania.
It should be noted that Geller, an outspoken opponent of the Islamization of America and advocate of the State of Israel, has been the subject of over-the-top attacks from the Left for years. The more successful Geller is at warning of the dangers of Islamism, the viler the attacks on her become.
Last week the left-wingers at the Jewish Daily Forward attacked Geller for running a separate ad drawing attention to Jews that Geller believes are undermining Israel by supporting the New Israel Fund.
The New Israel Fund is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit that has served as an administrator in the Middle East for Ford Israel Fund, which is an arm of the radical left-wing Ford Foundation. As FrontPage contributor Ronn Torossian has written, the New Israel Fund has granted nearly $27 million to left-wing and progressive NGOs in Israel and systematically works to destabilize Israel.
Criticizing left-wing Jewish leaders who back the fund constitutes McCarthyism, in the eyes of oped authors Deborah Lipstadt, Professor of Modern Jewish and Holocaust Studies at Emory University, and David Ellenson, Chancellor Emeritus of the Reform movements Hebrew Union College-Jewish Institute of Religion. They write:
Unfortunately, McCarthys tactics are apparently still alive and well in the Jewish community today. Ronn Torossian and Pam Geller have attacked Karen Adler, Alisa Doctoroff, Edith Everett, and Carol Zabar among the most prominent leaders of our community as supporters of the BDS campaign against Israel who seek to undermine the Jewish state. Torossian did so in a New York Post opinion piece and Gellers group has sponsored bus ads repeating the charge.
Attacks from Geller and others on these outstanding Jewish leaders reflect a disturbing new development in contemporary Jewish life, Lipstadt and Ellenson write.
Rather than disagree civilly and engage in polite and constructive debate there is name-calling and defamation. This is character assassination of the worst kind. Our community should not tolerate it, they write. And then, after denouncing defamation, they engage in it, implying Geller and others are the true enemies of the Jewish people.
Meanwhile, AFDIs black and white ad in Philadelphia reads Islamic Jew-Hatred: Its in the Quran. It continues: Two Thirds of All US Aid Goes To Islamic Countries. End All Aid To Islamic Countries. IslamicJewHatred.com.
It features a photograph of a 1941 get-together between Adolf Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who is described as an ally of Hitler and a Palestinian leader. The photo caption reads, Adolf Hitler and his staunch ally, the leader of the Muslim world, Hajj Amin al-Husseini.
Al-Husseini helped the Nazis recruit Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen-SS. Waffen-SS members committed many war crimes, deporting Jews from Eastern Europe, guarding concentration camps, and massacring Jews and others.
The Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (SEPTA) argues the ad runs afoul of minimal civility standards and the authoritys anti-disparagement policy and may appeal the ruling rendered last week by U.S. District Judge Mitchell S. Goldberg.
Gino J. Benedetti, SEPTAs general counsel, previously explained that he rejected the ad because he believed it put every single Muslim in the same category [of] being a Jew hater.
SEPTA concluded the ad is not protected speech
because it utilizes deliberate or reckless falsehoods in order to demean a group based on its religion, uses intentionally provocative language and images in the hope of eliciting a violent response, and embraces the very hatred of religious groups it purports to condemn.
But Judge Goldberg found that the Constitutions free speech protections trump SEPTAs efforts to prevent hurt feelings. SEPTA has carried ads promoting viewpoints on issues such as birth control, animal cruelty, fracking, and religion, he noted.
It is clear that the anti-disparagement standard promulgated by SEPTA was a principled attempt to limit hurtful, disparaging advertisements, Goldberg found. While certainly laudable, such aspirations do not, unfortunately, cure First Amendment violations.
The Philadelphia office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a group that is associated with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, maintains that the ad is dishonest.
The court did what it had to do under the Constitution, said Jacob Bender, executive director of CAIR-Philadelphia. Now it is on all of us, Philadelphians of all faiths, to find a way to respond to these ads in a way that promotes truth and dialogue over ignorance and division.
Except that the ad is entirely truthful. Antipathy towards Jews has been deeply ingrained in Islam since it began in the 7th century A.D.
The Koran demonizes Jews at length. The Islamic holy book attributes the following negative qualities and behaviors to Jews: dishonesty, argumentativeness, hypocrisy, wishing ill on others, taking pleasure in others suffering, arrogance, haughtiness, opportunism, impoliteness, murderousness, mercilessness, heartlessness, cowardice, and miserliness.
And an infamous hadith urges the mass slaughter of Jews by Muslims.
According to Sahih Muslim 6985, nature itself will rise up and help the followers of Mohammed exterminate the Jews:
Abu Huraira reported Allahs Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
According to Encyclopedia Britannica, a Hadith is a record of the traditions or sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, revered and received as a major source of religious law and moral guidance, second only to the authority of the Qurʾān, the holy book of Islam.
The entry continues,
It might be defined as the biography of Muhammad perpetuated by the long memory of his community for their exemplification and obedience. The development of Hadith is a vital element during the first three centuries of Islamic history, and its study provides a broad index to the mind and ethos of Islam.
A survey even found that 73 percent of 1,010 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza agreed with the hadith quoted in [the] Hamas Charter about the need to kill Jews hiding behind stones, trees.
Clearly, Pamela Geller is onto something.
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Re: Glenn Beck tells NRA: "It's Grover Norquist or Me."
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It would seem that our Obj had this right (about Grover Norquist) all along. His no new taxes pledge isn't really advancing that cause anymore either. Dems use it against us and Rs raise 'fees' instead of taxes.
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Islam in America, from Minneapolis to ISIS
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From the Muslim prayer room at Normandale Community College to Damascas...
From Minneapolis to ISIS: An Americans Path to Jihad
Minneapolis family worries that son, 20, is headed to Syria
Proud son, sobbing on the phone, but smiling with gun in photo:
[NYT link]
Previously in this thread, 24 Minneapolis al Qaida arrests in one year.
Zacarias Moussaoui, trained and arrested in MN.
Now, Somali unrest in St. Cloud, MN:
Mall of America Heightens Security After al-Shabab Threat
New wave of Islamic immigration planned for U.S.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Islam in America
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Normally I tend to blow off WND as a source; IMHO far too often it bloviates and misleads, but that was an interesting article.
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Re: Islam in America
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Quote from: Crafty_Dog on March 23, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Normally I tend to blow off WND as a source; IMHO far too often it bloviates and misleads, but that was an interesting article.
Agree. Another source:
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CAIR, Left try to Intimidate Ted Cruz...
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They failed, to Cruz's great credit. Robert Spencer spoke at the same event as Cruz this past weekend in Nashua, NH. Cruz was pressured to cancel because of this. He ignored the pressure. Another reason to respect Cruz. See story below:
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Re: CAIR, Left try to Intimidate Ted Cruz...
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Trying to intimidate Ted Cruz seems like a waste of valuable, jihad-sympathizers' time. )
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Re: Islam in America
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Cruz is the man!
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Renewed Questions Regarding Huma Abedin...
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Revived Questions about Huma Abedin
Posted By Matthew Vadum On March 31, 2015 @ frontpagemag.com
Republican lawmakers are probing why Hillary Clintons longtime Islamist aide Huma Abedin was allowed to work at the State Department under a special, part-time status while simultaneously working at a politically-connected consulting firm.
Demands for information are coming from Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) after the public learned both women used Clintons private Internet server and email accounts for Department of State correspondence.
But thats only part of the endless sleaze and intrigue surrounding Clinton.
The media has also reported that Sidney Blumenthal, the Clinton administration damage-control expert known for his relentless attacks on Clinton family enemies and for being the father of Israel-hating pseudo-journalist Max Blumenthal, was apparently doing freelance work for Mrs. Clinton. Clinton tried to hire the elder Blumenthal at State but the Obama White House nixed the appointment because of Blumenthals aggressively slimy attacks on Obama during the 2008 presidential campaign.
After Blumenthals email was hacked in 2013, it was revealed that starting weeks before the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, Blumenthal supplied intelligence to then-Secretary Clinton that was gathered by a secret network that included a former CIA clandestine service officer.
Reports got some of the details wrong, according to the Wall Street Journals James Taranto.
The reporters asked the most obvious question and got a partial answer: A Clinton spokesman told Gawker and ProPublica . . . that she has turned overmeaning to the State Departmentall the emails Blumenthal sent to [Mrs.] Clinton,' he writes.
That is incorrect, Taranto notes.
n reality she turned over no emails, only printouts, which are of limited value as evidence.
Meanwhile, as evidence continues to accumulate that Clintons cavalier approach to state secrets put U.S. national security in jeopardy, the shady background of Abedin, who has known ties to the Egypt-based Muslim Brotherhood, is barely acknowledged on Capitol Hill.
Instead of examining Abedins disturbing family ties that make her employment by the U.S. government a threat to national security, Grassley is honing in on the sweetheart arrangement that allowed the operative to get on the public payroll while raking in money from private consulting.
Well, its a start, at least.
Grassley complains that many previous requests to the Department of State for information have gone unanswered, so now he is sending requests to the agencys inspector general and to Clintons successor, Secretary of State John Kerry.
It was about two years ago that Grassley demanded information about Abedin after she moved from being a full-time deputy chief of staff for Clinton to part-time status and then began working at Teneo, a politically connected consulting firm that claims to bring together the disciplines of government and public affairs.
In a July 2013 letter the State Department indicated Abedin was employed full-time from January 2009 to June 2012. It also indicated she did not disclose outside employment when ending her full-time status. The department kept her on as an adviser-expert, apparently at the hourly rate of $74.51 with maximum pay of $155,500 per year.
A number of conflict-of-interest concerns arise when a government employee is simultaneously being paid by a private company, especially when that company (is) Teneo, Grassley wrote in a March 19 letter to Kerry.
Grassley asked in the letter what steps the department took to ensure that Abedins outside employment with a political-intelligence and corporate-advisory firm did not conflict with her simultaneous employment at the State Department.
She converted from a full-time employee with seemingly little difference in her job description or responsibilities, he wrote. In essence Abedin retained the same job and was later hired by Teneo and the Clinton Global Initiative.
It is unclear what special knowledge or skills Ms. Abedin possessed that the government could not have easily obtained otherwise from regular government employees, Grassley wrote.
Grassleys questions also come after the House Benghazi Select Committee learned that the former secretary of state deleted all the emails investigators were interesting in looking at.
On Friday, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, said in a statement, We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary [Hillary] Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server.
Destroying the electronic correspondence could be a federal crime since the documents were under congressional subpoena. As Byron York writes in the Washington Examiner,
Theres no doubt Clinton withheld information that Congress demanded she turn over, and some Republicans believe the documents she destroyed were covered under a subpoena as well. But a look at the story behind the subpoena and other document requests from congressional Benghazi investigators is a tale of obstruction, delay and frustration that underscores the limits of Congress power to investigate Benghazi. Clinton and her aides had the means to make life very difficult for Republicans trying to learn the full story of the attacks in Libya, and they did just that.
Disturbingly, Republicans have yet to focus on Abedins ties to the world of Islamic terrorism.
Born in 1976 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, Abedins connections to the Muslim Brotherhood run deep. (She is also reportedly just as haughty and unpleasant to deal with as Clinton herself.)
Her mother is Saleha Mahmood Abedin, widow of the late Zyed Abedin, an academic who taught at Saudi Arabias prestigious King Abdulaziz University in the early 1970s. The year after Huma was born, Mrs. Abedin received a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of Pennsylvania.
In 1978 the Abedins moved to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Abdullah Omar Naseef, then-vice president of Abdulaziz University, hired Mr. Abedin, a former colleague of his at the university, to work for the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs (IMMA), a Saudi-based Islamic think tank Naseef was then in the process of establishing. Mr. and Mrs. Abedin became members of the editorial board of IMMAs publication, the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs. According to Andrew C. McCarthy, IMMAs Muslim Minority Affairs agenda is to grow an unassimilated, aggressive population of Islamic supremacists who will gradually but dramatically alter the character of the West.
Naseef himself was a Muslim extremist with ties to al-Qaeda. In 1983 he became secretary-general of the Muslim World League (MWL), a militant organization with links to Osama bin Laden. Mrs. Abedin became an official representative of MWL in the 1990s. When her husband died in 1994, Mrs. Abedin became the IMMAs director. She currently serves as editor-in-chief of its journal.
Mrs. Abedin is also a member of the board of the International Islamic Council for Dawa and Relief (IICDR), which has long been banned in Israel because it has ties to Hamas. (In Arabic, dawah, or dawa, means the proselytizing or preaching of Islam.) She also runs the Amman, Jordan-based International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child (IICWC), a Muslim World League affiliate that self-identifies as part of the IICDR. The league, according to McCarthy, has long been the Muslim Brotherhoods principal vehicle for the international propagation of Islamic supremacist ideology. IICWC promotes strict Sharia Law and advocates the rescission of Egyptian laws that forbid female genital mutilation, child marriage, and marital rape.
Mrs. Abedin is a founding member of the Muslim Sisterhood, a pro-Sharia organization consisting of the wives of some of the highest-ranking leaders in the Muslim Brotherhood. Egyptian opposition newspaper Al-Liwa Al-Arabi has reported that Muslim Sisterhood members: smuggle secret documents; spread the Brotherhoods ideology by infiltrating universities, schools and homes; fulfill the interests of the Brotherhood; and organiz[e] projects which will penetrate [the Brotherhoods] prohibited ideology into the decision-making in the West under the guise of general needs of women. Nagla Ali Mahmoud, wife of Mohammed Morsi, the Islamist who was elected president of Egypt in June 2012, is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood.
When Huma Abedin returned to the U.S. and was an intern in the Clinton White House between 1997 and some time in 1999, she was a member of the executive board of George Washington Universitys radical Muslim Students Association (MSA). The MSA had extensive ties to al-Qaeda.
From 1996 to 2008, Abedin was employed by IMMA as assistant editor of its Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs.
Her brother, Hassan Abedin, an associate editor at the journal, was at one time a fellow at the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies. During his fellowship, the Centers board included such Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated figures as Yusuf al-Qaradawi and Abdullah Omar Naseef. Humas sister, Heba Abedin, is an assistant editor with the journal.
Someone with Abedins background shouldnt be anywhere near the levers of power in Washington.
Yet Hillary Clinton trusted her with vital secrets of state and then erased their electronic correspondence.
What are these two women hiding?
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Hirsi Ali: Radical Imams being paid to preach in US prisons
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Americas Academies for Jihad
A radical imam threatened me with deathand was later hired to preach in U.S. prisons. I was surprised, but I shouldnt have been.
By Ayaan Hirsi Ali
March 31, 2015 7:13 p.m. ET
Less than a year after I moved to the United States in 2006, I was asked to speak at the University of Pittsburgh. Among those who objected to my appearance was a local imam, Fouad El Bayly, of the Johnstown Islamic Center. Mr. Bayly was born in Egypt but has lived in the U.S. since 1976. In his own words, I had been identified as one who has defamed the faith. As he explained at the time: If you come into the faith, you must abide by the laws, and when you decide to defame it deliberately, the sentence is death.
After a local newspaper reported Mr. Baylys comments, he was forced to resign from the Islamic Center. That was the last I would hear of himor so I thought.
Imagine my surprise when I learned recently that the man who threatened me with death for apostasy is being paid by the U.S. Justice Department to teach Islam in American jails.
According to records on the federal site USASpending.gov and first reported by Chuck Ross of the Daily Caller, the Federal Bureau of Prisons awarded Mr. Bayly a $10,500 contract in February 2014 to provide religious services, leadership and guidance to inmates at the Federal Correctional Institution in Cumberland, Md. Ten months later he received another federal contract, worth $2,400, to provide Muslim classes for inmates at the same prison.
This isnt a story about one problematic imam, or about the misguided administration of a solitary prison. Several U.S. prison chaplains have been exposed in recent years as sympathetic to radical Islam, including Warith Deen Umar, who helped run the New York State Department of Correctional Services Islamic prison program for two decades, until 2000, and who praised the 9/11 hijackers in a 2003 interview with this newspaper.
That same year, the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism held hearings on radical Islamic clerics in U.S. prisons. Committee members voiced serious concerns over the vetting of Muslim prison chaplains and the extent of radical Islamist influences. Harley Lappin, director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons at the time, said that inmates are particularly vulnerable to recruitment by terrorists, and that we must guard against the spread of terrorism and extremist ideologies.
Yet it is not clear what measuresif anywere taken in response to those concerns.
Testifying in 2011 before the House Committee on Homeland Security, Michael P. Downing, head of the Los Angeles Police Departments Counterterrorism and Special Operations Bureau, said that in 2003 it was estimated that 17%-20% of the U.S. prison population, some 350,000 inmates, were Muslims, and that 80% of the prisoners who convert while in prison, convert to Islam. He estimated that 35,000 inmates convert to Islam annually.
Patrick Dunleavy, retired deputy inspector of the Criminal Intelligence Division at the New York State Department of Corrections, said in testimony that prison authorities often rely on groups such as the Islamic Leadership Council or the Islamic Society of North America for advice about Islamic chaplains. Yet those groups can and have referred individuals not suited to positions of influence over prisoners. As Mr. Dunleavy pointedly testified: There is certainly no vetting of volunteers who provide religious instruction, and who, although not paid, wield considerable influence in the prison Muslim communities.
The problem isnt limited to radical clerics infiltrating prisons. Radical inmates proselytize and do their utmost to recruit others to their cause. Once released, they may seek to take their radicalization to the next level.
Kevin James formed the Assembly of Authentic Islam while in New Folsom State Prison in California. In 2004 James recruited fellow prisoner Levar Washington to his cause. After being released, James developed a list of possible targets including an Israeli consulate, a Jewish childrens camp in Malibu, Los Angeles International Airport and a U.S. military recruiting station in Santa Monica. The two men pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges; Washington was sentenced to 22 years in 2008, James to 16 years in 2009.
Michael Finton converted and radicalized in an Illinois state prison while serving time for aggravated assault. Finton wanted to attack a federal government building and spoke of the need to attack members of Congress. He pleaded guilty to attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction and was sentenced to 28 years in prison in 2011.
In 2009 the Newburgh FourJames Cromitie, Laguerre Payen, David Williams and Onta Williamswere arrested for plotting to bomb synagogues in New York City. The men also intended to shoot down military aircraft with Stinger missiles. All four had converted to Islam in prison, where they developed radical sympathies. The men didnt know each other while in prison but met after their release while attending a local mosque connected to a prison ministry. All four were convicted on conspiracy charges and received 25-year sentences in 2011.
In January 2010 John Kerry, who was then chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, released a report warning that three dozen U.S. citizens who converted to Islam while in prison have traveled to Yemen, possibly for al Qaeda training.
Europeans have known for some time that prisons can be breeding grounds for Islamists. The British shoe bomber, Richard Reid, is thought to have been radicalized while in prison for smaller crimes. Two of the gunmen in the Paris terror attacks in JanuaryChérif Kouachi and Amedy Coulibalycame under the religious influence of Djamel Beghal, a convicted terrorist and charismatic Islamist, when serving prison sentences. Mohamed Merah, who killed three soldiers, three small children and a rabbi at a Jewish school near Toulouse, France, in 2012, apparently became a jihadist while in jail. The list is depressingly long.
The problem is that experts tend to be concerned about prison radicalization only to the extent that it ultimately results in some type of violent attack. Yet there are good reasons to be concerned about the inmates who come to cherish a radical interpretation of Islam while refrainingfor the time beingfrom the use of violence. The boundary between nonviolent and violent extremism is much more porous than conventional wisdom allows.
What can be done to stop prisons from becoming academies of jihad? Here are four suggestions:
1) Choose better partners than the Islamic Society of North America and the Islamic Leadership Council to screen prison chaplains. The American Islamic Forum for Democracy, founded and led by M. Zuhdi Jasser, a medical doctor and former lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy, would be a good choice.
2) Prevent radical clerics from coming into prisons to spread their message to susceptible inmates.
3) Ban radical Islamist literature from being disseminated in U.S. prisons.
4) Stop placing inmates in proximity to radicalized mentors.
The fact that Fouad El Bayly, an imam who publicly called for my death, was chosen to provide religious services, leadership and guidance at a federal prison shows that U.S. authorities havent learned the right lessons from a growing list of prison-convert terrorists. Bringing in radical imams to mentor vulnerable inmates will not do anyone any goodleast of all prisoners looking for a better path in life.
Ms. Hirsi Ali, a fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School and the American Enterprise Institute, is the author of Heretic: The Case for a Muslim Reformation, just out from HarperCollins.
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Vote For Your Favorite Muhammad Cartoon...
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A courageous and important event being staged in Garland, TX May 3rd...
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Interesting WSJ article: US Muslim Community Divided
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U.S. Muslim Community Divided Over White House Outreach Plan
Law-enforcement efforts to prevent radicalization provoke both support and suspicion
Abed Farah holds his daughter, Noor Farah, as shawarma is sold after prayer services at the Orange County Islamic Foundation Masjid last Friday in Mission Viejo, Calif. ENLARGE
Abed Farah holds his daughter, Noor Farah, as shawarma is sold after prayer services at the Orange County Islamic Foundation Masjid last Friday in Mission Viejo, Calif. Photo: Patrick T. Fallon for The Wall Street Journal
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April 20, 2015 2:39 p.m. ET
MISSION VIEJO, Calif.On a recent Friday in a mosque on the edge of an office park here, congregants filled rows of plastic chairs to hear community leaders discuss the role the White House hopes they will play in a new government effort to fight terrorism.
Instead, what they got was a debate over the proposed law-enforcement outreach to Muslim groups through community events, mentoring and youth programs, which are intended to prevent radicalization and identify extremists. Some Muslim leaders argued the governments plan unfairly casts suspicion on the entire Muslim community, while others urged involvement as a way for Muslims to have a voice and safeguard their communities.
Were being pushed into this law-enforcement framework thats inappropriate, said Todd Gallinger, a representative of the Council on American Islamic Relations, or CAIR, in the mosque discussion. This is something we need to avoid.
But Salam Al-Marayati, president of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, encouraged participation, saying, CVE is a tool. He added that the community should think about how to leverage CVE so that our community is seen for what it isthat it is part of the solution and has nothing to do with the problem.
The rift playing out in the Orange County mosque and elsewhere demonstrates the challenge the Obama administration faces as it attempts to sell its plan, called Countering Violent Extremism, or CVE, to the communities crucial to its success. The issue has gained potency with the rise of Islamic State, or ISIS, a violent Islamist group aggressively recruiting young Westerners.
On Monday, the U.S. charged six Minnesota men in connection with attempts to join Islamic State, in a case involving one of the largest groups of potential foreign fighters. Minneapolis, with the countrys largest Somali immigrant population, is one of three pilot cities meant to test CVE programs before they are rolled out on a larger scale. Federal officials said the test cities, which include Boston and Los Angeles, were chosen because of strong existing relationships between the Muslim communities and law enforcement.
Government officials and supporters of the program say it isnt a spy or intelligence-gathering mission. They note it was developed with the input of Muslim leaders from across the country, with an emphasis on mental health, social services and community-style policing, according to an administration official.
The U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, an umbrella group, said earlier this year that the CVE singles out Muslims for law-enforcement scrutiny, which it called constitutionally questionable and morally problematic.
We have concerns about any program that might violate civil rights, and on the other side, we are very much concerned about individuals falling into the trap of the wrong argument ISIS is putting out there to recruit innocent young people, said Oussama Jammal, secretary-general of the group. Were in a tough position.
The CVE programs are tailored to specific community needs, administration officials say. For example, many of the Somali immigrant Muslims in Minneapolis struggle with unemployment. Muslim communities in Los Angeles are more economically and ethnically diverse, and new immigrants often have trouble finding social and health services. In Boston, a college town that draws a diverse Muslim student population, the program could include psychologists to work with young people.
Federal officials are meeting with Muslims groups across the country to discuss the program, the administration official said.
Already, more than two dozen religious and civil-rights groups have publicly opposed or criticized CVE, including the American Civil Liberties Union, CAIR, Muslim Advocates and New York Universitys Brennan Center for Justice, as well as some Muslim student associations and Muslim religious leaders. Some say they fear that the plan may include surveillance of Muslims.
Despite such criticism, government officials say many Muslim communities have embraced the program, such as in Denver and Detroit, especially in the wake of more high-profile prosecutions of young people from the U.S. attempting to join Islamic State.
People are really worried about ISIS recruitment, said an administration official. So if Muslim American groups are concerned, thats not the government singling them out. Thats the government responding to their needs.
Another administration official recalled that in meetings with Muslim leaders at the White House earlier this year, President Barack Obama said that there have been cases in the past that made the community more mistrustful, and said thats why its so important for the community to be more involved.
The core of this program is building healthy and resilient communities, promoting civic participation, said Joumana Silyan-Saba of the Los Angeles Human Relations Commission, who worked on L.A.s CVE. Law enforcement has a role, she said, but the program also calls for beefing up social services for immigrant families.
That hasnt been enough for some Muslims, who point to high-profile instances of surveillance in the past decade, including a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in Orange County, Calif.
In the latter case, Craig Monteilh, a convicted check forger, said in court documents that the FBI hired him to pose as a Muslim and spy on mosques in the area. The FBI said it used him as a confidential human source, but didnt detail his actions in court documents. An FBI spokeswoman said the FBI doesnt target any individual or group based on religion.
Metra Salem, a 36-year-old mother of three and the daughter of Afghan immigrants, said she supports the Obama plan. I want my kids to be part of this country. Im tired of this victim-minority-group, marginalization narrative, she said.
Mohannad Malas, a member of the mosques board, said he hadnt heard enough to come to conclusions. His mosque regularly hosts visits from local law enforcement and city officials, he said, adding, We have nothing to hide. Recently, he said local police quickly removed offensive posters mocking the Prophet Muhammad that appeared around the mosque.
But Mr. Malas cited the visit years ago by an official from the FBIs Los Angeles office. He told us that he thinks of our community as the solution, and after that visit, we felt part of the solution, Mr. Malas said. Turns out, they were planting an informant [Mr. Monteilh].
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Obama and Turkey's Erdogan open mosque in VA?
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May 25, 2015, 01:22:16 AM »
Is this true?
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Re: Obama and Turkey's Erdogan open mosque in VA?
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Quote from: Crafty_Dog on May 25, 2015, 01:22:16 AM
Is this true?
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Turkish Mosque in Lanham, Maryland...
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This will be the largest mosque in the Western Hemisphere. Erdogan - Turkey's head of state - has ties to both the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Obama is not only looking the other way - he is enabling this. It is telling that Erdogan seems to be the only foreign leader with whom Obama has a close relationship.
The enemy is infiltrating and setting up base camps and training centers right here in our midst. We ought to be EXTREMELY concerned - but with the exception of a handful of members of Congress - including Ted Cruz and Michele Bachmann - the vast majority of our "leaders" seem to be asleep at the wheel.
This is not going to end well. God help us.
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 09:13:51 AM »
Simple, practical question:
Consistent with our First Amendment, can anything, should anything have been done to block this?
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 11:50:16 AM »
Would we have allowed an Odinist temple sponsored by the National German Socialist Worker's Party or s Shinto temple funded by the Black Dragon society during WWII?
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 08:02:57 PM »
But that would mean that we define ourselves as being at war with Islam itself , , ,
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Re: Islamic training centers being built on U.S. soil...
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May 25, 2015, 08:24:46 PM »
Crafty: PRECISELY. This IS the reality. Unless and until we face this reality as a nation - and that will take the leadership of a prominent Republican (possibly Ted Cruz?) this war is lost. Period. You can not defeat an enemy you refuse to accurately define. Islam is a totalitarian ideology of world-domination. It is antithetical to the founding principles of this nation and therefore, it follows - to the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Abolishing 501c3 organizations would be a baby-step in the right direction. Islam should NOT enjoy the protected status of a "religion." Does the Nazi Party or the KKK enjoy tax-exempt status? But this is arguably a side issue. Until it seeps into - or is burned into (possibly by a nuclear attack on one of our cities) the American consciousness that Islam is not a "religion" like any other, but in fact a repressive, totalitarian ideology bent on world conquest, we cannot possibly fight - let alone win - this war. And make no mistake. The war has begun. They have declared it against us - whether we choose to acknowledge it or not. Garland, TX was just the latest demonstration of this fact.
Sadly, I see America in the same state of denial as the nation was in prior to the bombing of Pearl Harbor. A huge majority of the American people were opposed to getting involved. We saw much the same in Europe - in Great Britain - until Churchill came along. We are on the path to a VERY ugly awakening. I fear thousands, if not tens of thousands will die before we wake up as a nation and engage in this fight. The enemy is HERE. They have infiltrated the Department of Homeland Security, for God's sake. Obama (along with Grover Norquist) has facilitated this. What more needs to be said?
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 08:33:23 PM »
Powerful points well made.
BUT, what about countries of hundreds of millions of people such as Indonesia and Malaysia? There are some 1.4-1.7 billion Muslims world wide. That is a lot of people to be warring with, particularly in the context of 4th Gen warfare!
The Kurds are Muslim. Are we at war with them? The Jordanians who support their king are Muslim, are we at war with them? Al Sisi wars on the MB and declares the need for a Muslim reformation. Are we at war with him and his supporters?
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 08:57:25 PM »
After Pearl Harbor, we didn't declare a war on aviation. We are at war with the global jihad. Any Muslim globally that directly or indirectly supports it is our enemy.
Some Uighurs try to wage jihad against China. China crushes them as needed. Muslims that don't wish to face China's security state learn to adapt to China's demands.
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 09:16:09 PM »
I get that!
However, that is not the question presented. The question presented is do we make enemies of Muslims who are not our enemies by declaring war on Islam.
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 09:28:25 PM »
Quote from: Crafty_Dog on May 25, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
I get that!
However, that is not the question presented. The question presented is do we make enemies of Muslims who are not our enemies by declaring war on Islam.
If they directly or indirectly support the global jihad, they are already at war with us.
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Re: Islam in America
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May 25, 2015, 11:50:34 PM »
GM is correct. We are at war with those who practice orthodox Islamic ideology, as expressed in the Koran. (If you haven't yet read it, I HIGHLY recommend "A Simple Koran" edited by Bill Warner.) It is critical to understand that the later verses abrogate the earlier, more peaceful verses, for example. It's also critical to understand the doctrine of taqiyya - the idea that it is not only OK, it is a true believer's DUTY to deceive - to lie to - non-believers, in order to gain the upper hand. To the extent that self-identified Muslims are not actively involved in jihad against us, we have no issue with them.
We must attack those who are actively targeting and attacking us. ISIS and the government of Iran, for example. This certainly does not encompass 1.7 Billion Muslims. Most of them are not actively targeting us. To the extent that they disavow the many explicit passages in the Koran and Hadith which mandate warfare upon unbelievers - we have no problem with them. However - those that hold to and act upon this belief system - are our mortal enemies and we must crush them, every bit as ruthlessly and decisively as we crushed Imperial Japan and the Nazis. There is simply no alternative. They stand against Western civilization. Churchill recognized this long before WWII - when he was serving in the British military in India.
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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Re: Islam in America
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May 26, 2015, 07:50:02 AM »
Few people get the point as clearly as we do here, but if we prohibit the building of mosques in the US, not only do we have serious First Amendment issues but also it certainly would persuade a lot of Muslims not at war with us that we would be at war with them.
The US's plate is alarmingly full and we are in the process of losing military superiority. We have China and Russia, the Arab Middle East (ISIS and AQ in its various manifestations, and Iran is going nuke.
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81% of respondents to Al-Jazeera poll support ISIS...
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May 26, 2015, 10:03:24 AM »
Note Robert's comments regarding Bill O'Reilly - fool that he is:
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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Re: 81% of respondents to Al-Jazeera poll support ISIS...
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May 26, 2015, 11:02:59 AM »
Quote from: objectivist1 on May 26, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
Note Robert's comments regarding Bill O'Reilly - fool that he is:
We learned in the Anbar province that people support the side that is winning. In the Middle East, if you support the side that is losing or the side that is leaving, then you will be slaughtered. If I were Muslim polled here, it is a lose-lose situation. I would not want the US identifying me for a terror watch list and I most certainly would not want the terrorist side putting me on a list of Muslims who do not support the jihad.
This is an online poll so who knows what it means. If the respondents are all unique, then it means they found over 30,000 readers/viewers who support ISIS. But if I opposed the gains of ISIS, I might not be motivated to call the terror-affiliated media and tell them that - and how to reach me.
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