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U.S. ALAC to Austrian ALAC?
John R. Houk
© October 22, 2014
American Laws for American Courts (ALAC) are primarily laws passed on the State level in the USA. What is ALAC?
American Laws for American Courts was crafted to protect American citizens' constitutional rights against the infiltration and incursion of foreign laws and foreign legal doctrines, especially Islamic Shariah Law. READ ENTIRETY FOR DETAILS (American Laws for American Courts; Infidel Task Force)
Americans in individual American States have begun to recognize that there are elements in Islam – particularly Sharia Law – that are totally incompatible with the Freedom, Liberty and Rights assured to us by the U.S. Constitution.
Since the U.S. Constitution enshrines Religious Freedom in the First Amendment Muslim apologists started to rail against State laws that expressly use the phrase "Sharia Law" to keep American Courts from using Islamic concepts jurisprudence precedents. This happened in Oklahoma when over 70% of the voters passed a law preventing Sharia from being used as a legal precedent in State Courts in 2010. Due largely by a lawsuit filed by Hamas-Muslim Brotherhood connected Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Federal Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange ruled the Oklahoma SQ 755 unconstitutional in 2013 because the law singled out a specific religion. Under Governor Fallin's direction, rather than pursuing further appeals Oklahoma chose another legal path using the wording of ALAC to specify that OK State Courts cannot use any foreign laws as a legal precedent in rendering decisions. This wisely expands the anti-Sharia focus to include Left Wing agendas that Obama might promote via the auspices of the United Nations and overseas Court proceedings. By August 2013 the OK Senate approved the ALAC wording 40-3 and the OK House approved it 85-7. Governor Mary Fallin then promptly made the ALAC official with her signature. Take that you weaselly Radical Muslims pretending to be Moderate!
The Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi inspired Wahhabi lobbyist are still trying to exploit the U.S. Constitution to make unconstitutional portions of Sharia acceptable in the USA. Those Muslim apologists have been joined by American Leftists either deluded that multiculturalism is good or use Islam to fight America's Christian heritage via cultural dilution.
After looking at snail-like slow understanding in America that Islam is a threat, I have to share what I consider some astounding news from the West European nation of Austria. In case you have had your head in the sand – partly due to the failure of the American media – the growing Muslim minority in Western Europe are essentially becoming successful in forcing nations to accept Islamic cultural styles as a part of Europe's fabric of society. One can hear that the UK, France, Germany, Sweden and Norway to name a few nations have gone out of their way politically to enforce multiculturalism in their society to the point that Muslim-Sharia enclave-zones and even Sharia Law accepted as the rule of law to be enforced in regard to Muslims and to favor Muslims in disputes with non-Muslims.
This European socio-political practice is multiculturalism taken to an insane level of destroying their Western heritage.
The German-speaking nation of Austria is about to embark on a new rule of law path to begin to emphasize the cultural heritage of Austria over the imported Islamic culture. In this case one can say ALAC can be an acronym for Austria Laws for Austrian Courts. This is huge because not too long ago Austria prosecuted and convicted an Austrian politician for hate-speech in speaking the truth about Islam. Of course the Muslim minority is outraged in Austria because of the potential of ending Islam's favored status in a European nation that still emphasizes multiculturalism over real Liberty and heritage.
Soeren Kern writing for the Gatestone Institute shares the details of this potential Austrian new heritage protection via the rule of law designed to thwart Radical Islam.
Austria: Civil Law vs. Sharia Law
By Soeren Kern
October 21, 2014 at 5:00 am
Austria has emerged as a major base for radical Islam and as a central hub for European jihadists to fight in Syria.
The proposed revisions would, among other changes, regulate the training and hiring of Muslim clerics, prohibit the foreign funding of mosques, and establish an official German-language version of the Koran to prevent its "misinterpretation" by Islamic extremists.
Muslims would be prohibited from citing Islamic sharia law as legal justification for ignoring or disobeying Austrian civil laws.
Leaders of Austria's Muslim community counter that the contemplated new law amounts to "institutionalized Islamophobia."
Official statistics show that nearly 60% of the inhabitants of Vienna are immigrants or foreigners. The massive demographic and religious shift underway in Austria, traditionally a Roman Catholic country, appears irreversible.
The Austrian government has unveiled a sweeping overhaul of the country's century-old "Islam Law" that governs the legal status of Austria's Muslim community.
The proposed revisions—which are aimed at cracking down on Islamic extremism in Austria—would regulate the training and hiring of Muslim clerics, prohibit the foreign funding of mosques, and establish an official German-language version of the Koran, among other changes.
The government says the modifications would give Muslims legal parity with other religious groups in Austria. But the leaders of Austria's Muslim community counter that the contemplated new law amounts to "institutionalized Islamophobia."
The updated Islam Law (Islamgesetz) was presented as a draft bill to parliament on October 2 and overhauls the current law, which dates back to 1912.
The original law was brought into being to help integrate Muslim soldiers into the Habsburg Army after the Austro-Hungarian Empire annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina in 1908. The law recognized Islam as a religious community in Austria, and allowed Muslims to practice their religion in accordance with the laws of the state.
After the Austro-Hungarian Empire collapsed in the aftermath of World War I, the number of Muslims in Austria was reduced to just a few hundred people. After World War II, however, Austria's Muslim population increased rapidly with the arrival of "guest workers" from Turkey and the Balkans in the 1960s, and refugees from Bosnia in the 1990s.
The Muslim population in Austria now exceeds 500,000 (or roughly 6% of the total population), up from an estimated 150,000 (or 2%) in 1990. The Muslim population is expected to reach 800,000 (or 9.5%) by 2030, according to recent estimates.
Official statistics show that nearly 60% of the inhabitants of Vienna, the capital and largest city of Austria, are immigrants or foreigners.
The massive demographic and religious shift underway in Austria, traditionally a Roman Catholic country, appears irreversible. In Vienna, for example, Muslim students now outnumber Catholic students at middle and secondary schools. Muslim students are also on the verge of overtaking Catholics in Viennese elementary schools.
At the same time, Austria has emerged as a major base for radical Islam. A June 2014 report by the Austrian intelligence agency [BVT] warned of the "exploding radicalization of the Salafist scene in Austria." Salafism is an anti-Western ideology that seeks to impose Islamic sharia law.
Austria has also emerged as a central hub for European jihadists seeking to fight in Syria, because Austria's geographic location provides easy access to land routes through the Balkans.
Photo: The Austrian Islamist known as "Abu Hamza al-Austria," fighting in Syria, pictured from his jihadist recruitment video.
In an interview with Austrian Public Radio Ö1-Morgenjournal, the Austrian Minister for Integration and Foreign Affairs, Sebastian Kurz, said the rapid rise of Islam in Austria has rendered the old Islam Law obsolete. A new law is needed, he said, to stipulate more clearly the rights and responsibilities of Muslims living in the country.
From now on, according to Kurz, Muslims residing in Austria will be expected to adhere to Austrian values and to acknowledge the primacy of Austrian law over Islamic Sharia law. In practice, he said, this means that Muslims would be prohibited from citing Islamic law as legal justification for ignoring or disobeying Austrian civil laws. Sharia law has "no place" in Austria, he stressed.
The new law would regulate at least a dozen separate issues, including relatively non-controversial matters such as Muslim holidays, Muslim cemeteries, Muslim dietary practices and the activities of Muslim clergy in hospitals, prisons and the army.
More significantly, however, the bill seeks to limit the religious and political influence of foreign governments within the Austrian Muslim community by prohibiting foreign countries—presumably Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states—from financing Islamic centers and mosques in Austria.
The legislation also seeks to prevent the growth of a parallel Islamic society in Austria by regulating mosques and requiring clerics to be trained exclusively at Austrian universities. The new law would require Muslim groups to terminate the employment of clerics who have criminal records or who are deemed to pose a threat to public safety.
The new restrictions—including an employment ban for foreign clerics in Austria—would apply especially to Turkey: 65 of the 300 Muslim clerics working in Austria are Turkish civil servants whose salaries are being paid for by the Turkish government's Religious Affairs Directorate, the Diyanet.
Muslims leaders in Austria say that in the absence of foreign funding, many mosques in Austria would have to be "closed immediately" because they are not financially viable apart from outside support. Moreover, they argue, the prohibition of foreign funding violates the constitution because the same restrictions are not being applied to Christians or Jews.
The foreign funding restrictions, however, do not appear to apply to the Vienna-based King Abdullah International Center for Inter-Religious and Inter-Cultural Dialogue. Critics say the multi-million-dollar institution, which was inaugurated in November 2012, is an effort by Saudi Arabia to establish a permanent "propaganda center" in central Europe from which to spread the anti-Western Wahhabi sect of Islam throughout the rest of Europe.
The new Islam Law also requires the Austrian Muslim community to agree on a standardized German-language translation of the Koran, the Hadiths and other Islamic religious texts. The government has argued that an official version of the texts would prevent their "misinterpretation" by Islamic extremists.
"There are countless translations, countless interpretations," Kurz told public radio Ö1. "We will be pushing for this vigorously. It is also in the interest of the Muslim community that words are correctly interpreted and reproduced."
However, Muslim leaders say it would be next to impossible for Sunnis, Shiites and Alawites to agree on a "correct" translation of the Koran. In any event, they say, the state cannot outlaw alternative translations.
A group called Muslim Youth of Austria [MJÖ] has described the new Islam Law as an "intolerable legal scandal" that seeks to "place the broad mainstream of Muslims either under state supervision, or to split them into weak and therefore meaningless groups."
The president of the Austrian Islamic Community [IGGiÖ], Fuat Sanac, says the new law is "naïve" and treats Muslims as "second-class" citizens: "We do not agree with the draft Islam Law. It was presented to the public without our approval."
Sanac has vowed to file an appeal with Austria's constitutional court to stop the new law, which he says "risks humiliating" the country's Muslim population.
Kurz maintains that the primary purpose of the new Islam Law is to establish the "primacy of national law over religious law."
The government hopes the new law will be approved by Parliament in November and enter into force sometime in 2015. However, Muslim opposition to the initiative may mean that the 1912 version of the law will remain unchanged for the foreseeable future.
U.S. ALAC to Austrian ALAC?
John R. Houk
© October 22, 2014
Austria: Civil Law vs. Sharia Law
Soeren Kern is a Senior Fellow at the New York-based Gatestone Institute. He is also Senior Fellow for European Politics at the Madrid-based Grupo de Estudios Estratégicos / Strategic Studies Group. Follow him on Facebook and on Twitter.
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America Sends Money to Terrorists at Israel's Expense
John R. Houk
© October 13, 2014
Hmm … As an American, what would you think if the Obama Administration directed hundreds of millions of dollars to go to Islamic Terrorists? As an American you should be supportive of the USA's only real ally in the Middle East – Israel. A Jim Kouri article at Examiner.com reported on 10/12/14 that President Barack Hussein Obama's Administration has GIVEN the Hamas Islamic terrorists $212 MILLION bucks because those poor abused folks in Gaza have been abused by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF):
Kerry had arrived in Cairo early Sunday specifically attend the conference with other leaders to discuss raising billions of dollars to rebuild the Gaza Strip, according to counterterrorism expert Raoul Plattsberg.
"The humanitarian challenges [are] enormous and the [Palestinian] people of Gaza need our help desperately, not tomorrow, not next week, they need it now," Kerry said during the conference that had the participation of officials from 50 countries and 20 NGOs (non-government organizations). (Obama, Kerry to fork over another $212 million to Hamas-ruled Gaza; By Jim Kouri; Examiner.com; 10/12/14)
EXCUSE ME! Hamas is on the U.S. State Department's terrorist watch list and has been so since 1997.
Hamas, an acronym for Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya ("Islamic Resistance Movement"), was founded by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, a Palestinian cleric who became an activist in local branches of the Muslim Brotherhood after dedicating his early life to Islamic scholarship in Cairo. …
… Hamas published its charter, calling for the destruction of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic society in historic Palestine. … READ ENTIRE BACKGROUNDER (Hamas; By Zachary Laub; CFR; Updated 8/1/14)
Obama's supports the enemies of our ally Israel. The propaganda thus justifies Hamas targeting of Jewish civilians – men, women, teenagers and children – for murder in the name of Islam and for the destruction of Israel. American and European Leftists are okay with this kind of "humanitarian" support because apparently it is acceptable to murder Jews in a more technological society such as tiny Israel and whine about a sophisticated response from Israel that rips Hamas' infrastructure (See Also HERE) that also kills human shields that are as much voluntary as they may be coerced to sacrifice themselves to protect Hamas military assets that target Israeli cities.
I have a problem with this idiotic antisemitic reasoning by Western Leftists. AND my fellow Americans, you should have a problem with this as well.
Israel has struggled to exist as an independent nation in the ORIGINAL homeland of the world's Jews since 1948 when FIVE (or seven considering the Arab-Muslim militia set-up within the defunct British Mandate for Palestine) invading Muslim-nation armies tried to destroy it more for selfish territorial desires by relatively newly independent Muslim nations using the Islamic dar al-Islam (House of Islam) argument that Muslims were being displaced by usurping post-WWII European Jews.
The only thing remotely true about the Muslim apologist propaganda is that a majority of Jews returning to their ancient homeland were from persecuted European nations stretching from the Atlantic to Russia (then USSR). These European Jews began returning to their homeland even before WWII which means before Adolf Hitler made his contemptuous attempt to exterminate Jews of irreligious heritage and religious Jews from the European continent. Of course after the Western world became aware of the result of Hitler's attempted Final Solution for Jewry via the Holocaust murdering about SIX MILLION Jews, the impetus to establish a sovereign Jewish Nation became something the West's more democratic elected governments were forced to listen in a more positive manner.
Hence when many Western nations began to view their National Interests lay more with pacifying Middle Eastern Muslims than supporting an independent sovereign Jewish Nation, some of those Western nations began backroom efforts to thwart an independent Israel. The United Kingdom in particular sent British military officers as the leadership corps of Jordan's (then Transjordan) Arab Legion which was the only Muslim military force that was able to push back the rag tag but unified Jewish forces of the new Israel. Jordan's Arab Legion under the command of British generalship pushed Israeli forces back from historical Judea-Samaria rooted out the ancient Jewish Quarter of the Jerusalem Old City (now termed as East Jerusalem by Muslim apologists and global Leftists) until a rough armistice was reached after it became apparent the other invading Muslim armies failed in their unholy quest to drive Jews into the Mediterranean Sea completing another Holocaust of Jews a mere three years after Hitler's execution of his Final Solution Holocaust.
I am still amazed that Muslims have been taught so much hatred toward Jews that they cannot agree to befriending a very tiny sliver of land of the ancient Jewish Homeland to Jews who have had both a heartfelt desire to live free from antisemitic persecution and/or a religious desire to attain their aged old prayer of "next year in Jerusalem" (Orthodox thinking HERE and HERE; Jewish Reform Allegorical thinking HERE and HERE; Conservative/Masorti thinking HERE; Historical HERE – Full Disclosure: I am what many would describe as a Christian Zionist [ICEJ & John Hagee] hence the preceding links on Jewish attitudes toward this prayer is subject to my quick perusal and may not be totally accurate).
The Muslim-Arabs accredited as displaced after 1948 are largely (but obviously not totally) come from Muslim descendants that were also fairly recent arrivals to the part of the Levant which is now Israel. AND during the years of Muslim nations threatening to destroy Israel those displaced Muslims got out of dodge because they didn't want to be around when Jews defending their new sovereignty fought with blood thirsty Muslim-Arab armies dedicated to killing Jews. Those displaced Muslims chose not to be victims of the crossfire, indeed the invading armies had sent out word to flee to safety until the Jews were cleansed from the land.
So when the majority of invading armies failed in their mission to destroy Israel, that left a refugee problem that the nations representing those invading armies REFUSED to solve by absorbing them into their own nations. Instead it would be decided to exploit those refugees as a tool for continuous future invasions and after 1967 the promotion of Islamic terrorism to undermine Israel's existence.
Blog Editor – Two articles refuting Muslim Apologists & Revisionist Historians:
2) Benny Morris's Reign of Error, Revisited
Supporting any kind of Jew-hatred for the sake of Islamic Supremacism is something I will always rail against.
A Good Muslim or None So Blind
The essay below is as much a response the Muslim apologist writer Scott Broden praising the Supreme Court deciding for a Radical Muslim Mosque in Rutherford County Tennessee as it is an expose on the Muslim stealth jihad that occurs in America. The Wonkette blog lays the effect of the Supreme Court decision in less eloquent terms yet very accurate compared to the above Tennessean press coverage link by the same Scott Broden of whom Justin pokes a jab at pertaining a Broden piece in DNJ.
A Good Muslim or None So Blind
By Justin O. Smith
Sent: 6/7/2014 11:19 PM
The American people do not object to the Muslims or their worship of Allah, until the ideology of their "religion" contravenes the individual liberties provided by the U.S. Constitution and infringes upon our Constitutional Rights, in the manner that 75% of the Hadith and Sira does, as applied under Sharia law; and, despite Scott Broden's assertions in 'Freedom of Religion…' (Daily News Journal 6-5-14), the opponents to the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro (ICM) are not the first to state that Islam seeks "to establish Sharia law as the new code of conduct here. "Islamists and their imams are often heard saying, "Islam will reign supreme in America."
"We will implement the rule of God on earth by the tip of the sword." These are the words of the American-born Anwar al-Awlaqi, from Los Cruces, New Mexico, who became a top Al Qaeda leader.
In February 2011, the Islamic Thinkers Society, based in New York, planned to have Islamofascist Anjem Choudary (Chourday) speak at their protest rally. Choudary (Chourday) told the 'Daily Star' newspaper, days before the event, that "the event is a rally, a call for the Muslims to rise up and establish the Islamic state in America."
Today, there remains significantly so much more at stake in Murfreesboro, TN and across America than many people realize or understand, and the failed public notice policy, the completion of the ICM expansion and the disservice to the American people committed by the U.S. Supreme Court, in this instance, bode ill moving ahead. Propagandists and apologists for Islam, such as Broden, and Islam's enablers, like the Rutherford County Commission, would have us believe that Islam and its mosques are benign, innocent and peaceful, when all the evidence is to the contrary.
Peaceful? The ICM had board member Mossad (Mosaad) Rawash proclaiming the joy of dying as a martyr for Jihad [Blog Editor: I couldn't confirm this but HERE is Rawash's support for violence in the name of Islam]; and, in January 2009, the community witnessed an ICM protest in support of Hamas, as thousands of Hamas mortars and missiles rained down on Israel. We all heard their battle cry of Jihad, "Allahu Akbar", rising up in the streets. As this congregation grows in membership, so too will its propensity towards violent measures against non-Muslims, as commanded by the Koran and the Hadith.
"If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizyah (tax). If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them…" (Hadith #1731).
"What moved me to do what I did was purely my faith. I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his Prophet." This was the explanation Mohammed Bouyeri gave the court for stabbing Dutch film maker Theo Van Gogh to death, while holding a Koran.
Compounding the problem, the Obama administration and DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson unilaterally "relaxed" immigration "rules" for people with "loose terrorist associations" in February 2014. This enabled scores of highly trained Muslim terrorists posing as "refugees" from Iraq and Syria to enter the U.S. once more (155,000 combined total in 2013), after thousands of Syrians fraudulently entered in August 2013; ABC News confirmed this in November 2013.
The Center for Immigration Studies report from 2012 states that the U.S. refugee program "is increasingly bringing in groups that have stated openly they do not intend to assimilate into American culture." More than misplaced sympathy, it is self-destructive and sheer stupidity to bring population groups linked to terror into America, and it all too often leads directly to terrorist attacks on our soil (take note Mr. Broden).
Muslims take advantage of American kindness, gullibility and compassion. When the time comes, they will attack us more terribly than they did on 9/11, the Islamic way. They say one thing on camera – "Islam is the religion of peace", and they teach something different to their children – Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead the infidels wherever you find them." This is well documented by Arabic speaking journalists, such as Laura Mansfield (WND April 2005).
Since 9/11, no suicide bombings have been successfully conducted by islamofascists in the United States (Tsarnaevs not considered in this category), but six cases involved Muslims explicitly seeking to conduct Al Qaeda-type "martyrdom operations". In
Zachary Karabatak's case, he had overstayed his visitor's visa, and he was plotting to detonate bombs at military installations in Virginia and the Capitol Building in DC, declaring his intentions to collapse the entire dome in January 2012. And this is just one of fifteen other major terror plots during the same time frame.
[Blog Editor – 8/16/14: Commenter "Zac" points out a correction needs to be made to who overstayed their visitor's visa. Zachary Karabatak was the source of Justin's info and Sidi Mohamed Amine El Khalifi is the Islamic terrorist with the expired visa who had planned acts of terrorism in Virginia and the Capitol Building in DC". The actual source for this correction is this pdf document: http://politicalscience.osu.edu/faculty/jmueller/50CAPB7.pdf under "Case 50: Capitol Bomber" dated March 14, 2014 – scroll down the document to discover Zachary Karabatak is the author of said info.]
In 1992, Imam Zaid Shakir, one of the founders of Zaytuna – America's first Muslim college, preached that a new Caliphate (an Islamic state ruling the world by Sharia) should be created that will wage jihad and "use …weaponry against the enemies of Islam," during his sermon, titled 'Failure of the Muslim Political Order'. Continuing on to 2013, Shakir told 32,000 Muslims attending an Islamic Circle of North America convention in Maryland, that "If Islam is the basis, the kafir (nonbeliever)…the Christian…the Jew will be dhimmi (second-class citizen). They won't be equal with the Muslim."
On January 26, 2013 in Falls Church, Virginia, Shaker Elsaed (Elsayed), a well-known Islamic leader, spoke to an audience at T C Williams High School and stated: "The enemies of Allah are lining up…are we lining (up) or are we afraid because they may call us terrorists?…Make this title (terrorist) worth it, and be a good Muslim." Evidently Elsaed believes a good Muslim is a terrorist Muslim.
It is not fear that motivates many opponents to the spread of Islam and Sharia law within America. We simply understand the threat of Islam, much as farm kids understand the threat of a rabid dog. We have seen what Islam does globally – we have seen what Islam does here. Judging purely on its scripture, to say nothing of the way it is preached in the mosques and actually practiced, Islam is the most vicious sectarian of all "religions" in its heartlessness towards nonbelievers. We contend that Islam is the problem.
Many people deny the existential threat within Islam's foundational texts, or they attempt to recast Islam to fit their perceived vision of Islam or their own political agenda. None are so blind as those who cannot see, that Islam and the Koran sanctify terrorism and many types of human rights violations, in order to distinguish them from mere criminal behavior, in the Muslim mind – that Mohammed's lifetime example of theft, rape and murder and pedophilia has nurtured the Islamofascist worldview, and that it is Mohammed's final commands from his death bed (Koran Chapter 9) that continually inspire so many jihadists to wage their Holy War against nonbelievers
By Justin O. Smith
Edited by John R. Houk
The source links within Justin's essay are from the Editor. Muslim words and names often have multiple English language spelling, I don't know why but I contributed a few alternate spelling in parentheses. Anything enclosed by brackets is from the Editor.
© Justin O. Smith
Quran Lies – The Bible is Truth
John R. Houk
© February 24, 2014
Here is an example of Muslim Apologists using the Word of God (i.e. the Holy Bible) to propagandize gullible Muslims and nominal Christians in promoting the idiocy that Mohammed is in the Bible.
19 Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?"
20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, "I am not the Christ."
21 And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?"
He said, "I am not."
"Are you the Prophet?"
And he answered, "No."
22 Then they said to him, "Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?" (John 1: 19-22 NKJV)
Shabir Ally says John the Baptist talks about three people he is not:
1) The Baptist is not the Christ.
2) The Baptist is not Elijah of old.
3) The Baptist is not "the Prophet".
This Shabir character tells his listeners that "the Prophet" spoken of is none other than the Muslim prophet Mohammed. Acts17Apologetics posted this video of Shabir Ally telling his listeners. This is an overt lie Shabir is telling as is refuted in the video.
Shabir blatantly leaves out the context of the above verses by placing them in the context of the entire first chapter of the Gospel of John.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, "This was He of whom I said, 'He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.'"
16 And[a] of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace.
24 Now those who were sent were from the Pharisees. 25 And they asked him, saying, "Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?"
26 John answered them, saying, "I baptize with water, but there stands One among you whom you do not know. 27 It is He who, coming after me, is preferred before me, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose."
28 These things were done in Bethabara[a] beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is He of whom I said, 'After me comes a Man who is preferred before me, for He was before me.' 31 I did not know Him; but that He should be revealed to Israel, therefore I came baptizing with water."
32 And John bore witness, saying, "I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.' 34 And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God." (John 1: 14-16; 24-34 NKJV)
Scripture makes it pretty clear that John the Baptist was not the Christ but that Jesus the son of Mary and the son of God is the Christ. Clearly neither John the Baptist nor Jesus was Elijah but Scripture tells us the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah as a messenger of the coming Christ.
Jesus talking to the John's disciples:
7 As they departed, Jesus began to say to the multitudes concerning John: "What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? 8 But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft garments? Indeed, those who wear soft clothing are in kings' houses. 9 But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. 10 For this is he of whom it is written:
'Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
Who will prepare Your way before You.'[a]
11 "Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come. (Bold Emphasis Mine – Matthew 11: 7-14 NKJV)
And "the Prophet" is a prophetic moment spoken by Moses that in later days a prophet would rise up like himself to lead Israel.
15 "The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear, 16 according to all you desired of the Lord your God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, 'Let me not hear again the voice of the Lord my God, nor let me see this great fire anymore, lest I die.'
17 "And the Lord said to me: 'What they have spoken is good. 18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. (Deuteronomy 18: 15-19 NKJV)
Muslim Apologists at this moment will try to distort the truth again and claim that the prophet that God would raise up like Moses is Mohammed. However, if you read Mohammed's version of the Old Testament you will notice immediately that the Quran twists the Holy Bible narrative to an unrecognizable story even going so far that Ishmael the son of the slave Hagar and Abraham was the child of Promise instead of Isaac the son of Sarah (free and wife) and Abraham. Whereas the New Testament does no twisting and Peter under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit preached:
18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before,[a] 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. 22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, 'The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.'[b]24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold[c] these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.'[d] 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities." (Acts 3: 18-26 NKJV)
As you can tell I have no regard of the Quran as being holy or of divine origin. The Bible is the Word of God and any refutation of this truth is of an antichrist spirit.
18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the[a] Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.[b] 21 I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. (I John 2: 18-22 NKJV)
Now take a look at the Acts17Apologetics video.
Is Muhammad Mentioned in John 1:19-21? (A Reply to Shabir Ally)
Posted by Acts17Apologetics
Published: Feb 19, 2014
Popular Muslim apologist Shabir Ally claims that Muhammad is "the prophet" mentioned in John 1:19-21. We wonder if Shabir has read the rest of the chapter, and if he has thought about the implications of his argument.
Quran Lies – The Bible is Truth
John R. Houk
© February 24, 2014
Is Muhammad Mentioned in John 1:19-21? (A Reply to Shabir Ally)
Answering Muslims: The Islamoblog of Acts 17 Apologetics
There are more than 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, coming from a variety of ethnic and educational backgrounds. Many of these Muslims claim that there is strong evidence supporting Muhammad and the Qur'an, as well as strong evidence against Christianity.
Answering Muslims is a Christian apologetics website dedicated to responding to the questions, objections, and arguments of Muslims. The site is run by Christian debaters, lecturers, and writers who have a special interest in Islam.
Since one of the most common Muslim arguments is that Islamic morality and law would benefit Western nations, we also report relevant current events concerning the impact of Sharia on various cultures.
Counterjihadists and Senator Feinstein
John R. Houk
© January 18, 2014
Senator Diane Feinstein is the consummate Left Wing Democrat in the transforming America utopian pipedream that closet Marxists and Socialists dream is on high speed to fruition. To supporters of the U.S. Constitution Feinstein fired-up 2nd Amendment proponents by suggesting legal rules that would make the 2nd Amendment irrelevant without a Constitutional Amendment to make any such change.
That being said, if you don't know by now, I am among other Conservative projects a Counterjihad Blogger. Essentially that means I believe Islam, Quran, Hadith, Sira or whatever; are designed to transform humanity into the Muslim view of deity, theology and way of living. That Muslim agenda must be accomplished by any means necessary. Muslims try peace first, subjugation, oppressive submission and if all else fails – a brutal form of Capital Punishment undoubtedly to set an example to those who would dare oppose Mohammed's deity they call Allah.
Muslim Apologists and Leftist Multiculturalist literally hate people like me. AND so those two groups usually embark a path in the West where Free Speech still exists (but more and more diluted) to discredit Counterjihadists with outright lies about a peaceful Islam according to their Quran followed closely by the venomous accusation of being a racist and bigot.
I have no doubts that if a Muslim dedicated to what the Quran, Hadith, Sira or whatever says would kill me for their perception of insulting Islam. Currently I am way-way down the old totem pole of anyone a Muslim would like to silence; ergo no seeks to end my life like more notable Counterjihadists. Here are some names you may or may not recognize AND YET are probably well known among Muslim Apologists (in no particular of relevance but just from the top of my – no pun to give a Muslim any ideas intended):
o Brigitte Gabriel (Yes I am aware it is a pseudonym) – See Also ACT for America
o Bat Ye'or (Another Pseudonym)
o Fjordman (Another pseudonym): Among critics of the Counterjihad Movement – especially in Europe – often heads the list of the false accusation of being a Right Wing, Hate Mongering, Anti-Islam racist and bigot. If you Google his name you will find volumes of vilifying critics. This is especially the case do to a mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik who massacred mostly a bunch of youth in a Norwegian youth camp under the delusion it would inspire Europeans to bring about a New World Order by deporting Muslims. Breivik quoted Fjordman extensively in a delusional Manifesto delineating a movement in his mind to purify Europe and restructure a European government. Left Wing Europeans have used Breivik's love of Fjordman's writing to excoriate Counterjihadists as violent Right Wing Extremists.
o Nonie Darwish: Youtube Video: 'Why I Left Islam': Part ONE & Part TWO
I am certain I left someone out. These people are labelled extremists implying the advocacy of racist hatred or violence. The irony is that none of this applies to Counterjihad writers. The sole purpose of Counterjihadists is to shed light on what the Quran really says and exposing the deception involved with Islamic theology to convince non-Muslims to be accepting of Islam.
SO ANYWAY I began these thoughts talking about decidedly Left Wing Senator Diane Feinstein. Here is the thing that is remarkably shocking to a Counterjihad writer. The Democrat Leftist from California understands that Fundamentalist Muslims are a threat to the National Security of the United States. Not only has Feinstein identified Radical Islam as the enemy BUT as Chairman Senate Intelligence Committee has released a report that exposes the Obama Administration as negligent on protecting Ambassador Chris Stevens during the Benghazi attack by Islamic Terrorists.
I am no admirer of Senator Diane Feinstein but in this case she is awesome.
A Brigitte Gabriel email sent via ACT for America sent an email that reminded of this information. Below is that email.
A Tale of Three Senators
By Brigitte Gabriel
Sent: 1/17/2014 11:08 AM
ACT for America
In a time where courage is a precious commodity on Capital Hill, a Democratic U.S. Senator has set an admirable example of statesmanship in stark contrast to two of her former colleagues.
Senator Diane Feinstein of California, the Chair of Senate Intelligence Committee has sounded the alarm over the escalating threat from Jihadist terrorism and released a report in the pursuit of the truth about the terrorist attack on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11th, 2012.
Senator Feinstein's words and deeds stand in stark contrast to those of former Senators Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, the former and current Obama administration Secretaries of State.
Senator Feinstein recently correctly defined our enemies as a "very fundamentalist jihadist Islamic community" – in a warning that terrorism is on the rise. During a December 1st interview on CNN's State of the Union with Candy Crowley, Senator Feinstein noted,
I think there is a real displaced aggression in this very fundamentalist jihadist Islamic community. And that is, that the West is responsible for everything that goes wrong and that the only thing that's going to solve this, is Islamic sharia law and the concept of the caliphate. And I see more groups, more fundamentalists, more jihadists, more determined to kill to get where they want to get. So, it's not an isolated phenomenon. You see these groups spread a web of connections. And this includes North Africa, it includes the Middle East, it includes other areas as well.
It took great courage for Senator Feinstein to publicly identify the enemy and describe the basics of the doctrine that underpins their actions. She knew full well that her democratic base will be very uncomfortable with her bold truth about a problem that is devastating our country yet no one wants to identify including the president. Her words were like a breath of fresh air. Few Republicans, much less Democrats, on Capitol Hill have done as good a job of articulating the threat we face from Jihad.
Unfortunately, Feinstein's former colleague, Secretary of State John Kerry, is not nearly as well informed as she is. He has uttered nothing to indicate that he has any grasp of the enemy threat doctrine and what makes our enemies "tick."
In fact, just this week, Kerry parroted the long-discredited theory that terrorism is caused by poverty. In remarks delivered during a visit to the Vatican, Kerry proclaimed poverty to be the "root cause" of terrorism.
This isn't the first time Kerry has regurgitated such nonsense. Speaking at the Global Counterterrorism Forum in the wake of the Jihadist terrorist attack on a shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya, Kerry called for "providing more economic opportunities" for youth to prevent them from being recruited to terrorism.
Perhaps Kerry has forgotten that Osama Bin Laden was a multimillionaire who left a life of luxury in Saudi Arabia to wage global jihad? Or maybe he forgets that the current leader of Al Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was no pauper either. He was a professor of surgery and practicing physician at one time in his native Egypt before he turned to jihad. Then there is current captive Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was well off enough to come to the United States to earn a degree in engineering from North Carolina A&T.
There is no actual evidence that poverty causes terrorism. Jihadist terrorism has its roots in the doctrine known as sharia. Jihadists have come to commit acts of terror from a variety of lifestyles, nationalities and socioeconomic backgrounds. There is no evidence to indicate that poverty is a prerequisite for Jihadist terrorism, despite what Kerry says.
In fact, Kerry's statement shows a profound confusion and naïveté when it comes to the war with which we are faced. Fortunately, Senator Feinstein doesn't have the same problem that Secretary Kerry has.
In fact, as Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Senator Feinstein has just released a new, bipartisan report on the Jihadist terror attack on US diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11th, 2012, that goes a long way toward dispelling some of the myths surrounding that attack and assigning accountability for what went wrong.
Among the report's findings:
• The attack was NOT a spontaneous act of violence touched off by a protest in reaction to a video about the prophet Mohammed.
• The U.S. government did not do enough to prevent the attack or protect the diplomatic facilities.
• The Obama State Department had ample warning of a dangerous security situation in Benghazi but failed to take proper action to secure lives and property.
• The Obama intelligence community issued statements after the attack that turned out to be wrong and then was slow in correcting those incorrect statements.
Feinstein's committee's candid, accurate report is quite different from the testimony before the Senate delivered by Senator Feinstein's former colleague, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, on January 23rd, 2013. Who can forget the shameful prevarications and doublespeak from Hillary Clinton that day?
But worst of all was this cynical and infamous passage:
With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest? Or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they would go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?
Congratulations to Senator Feinstein for identifying the mistakes for which Hillary Clinton was ultimately responsible and laying out the facts for the American people that Benghazi was PREVENTABLE, because to us, it DOES make a difference!
Counterjihadists and Senator Feinstein
John R. Houk
© January 18, 2014
A Tale of Three Senators
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Exploiting Christian Persecution to Demonize Israel
Diarmaid MacCulloch
Western Leftists and Muslim apologists continue the idiotic propaganda of blaming all the ills of violence in Muslim dominated lands on Israel. Check this out!
Exploiting Christian Persecution to Demonize Israel
By Raymond Ibrahim
November 5, 2013
Originally Human Events
What's worse than the silence of Western Christians concerning the Muslim persecution of their coreligionists in the Islamic world? Answer: Cynically exploiting that persecution for a political agenda—in the case of a recent Daily Beast article, to excoriate the state of Israel and its supporters.
Titled "Why Won't the West Defend Middle Eastern Christians?" and written by Diarmaid MacCulloch, a Fellow of St. Cross College, the article touches on the persecution of Christians, but primarily as a springboard to attack American Christian support for Israel. Consider the following excerpt:
… one of the silences which I find most frustrating is precisely the lack of noise from Western Christians about the fate of ancient Christianities in the Middle East. At the heart of the problems in the Middle East is seven decades of unresolved conflict between Israel and Palestine…
Yes, Western silence vis-à-vis the plight of Mideast Christians is as real as it is frustrating, but exactly how is MacCulloch able to jump to the conclusion that the Arab-Israeli conflict is "the heart" of the problem?
What about the well-documented Islamic doctrines that codify the suppression and persecution of Christians and other non-Muslims?
What about the documented fact that Christians under Islam have been persecuted for more than 1300 years before the existence of the state of Israel, in complete accordance to said doctrines?
What about the fact that Christians are currently being persecuted in every corner of the Islamic world, as documented in my monthly "Muslim Persecution of Christians" series—including diverse countries such as Pakistan, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, the Philippines, and every corner of Africa—and not just the Middle East?
Surely this is the true "heart of the problem"—and not the tiny and relatively new state of Israel.
Of course, to thinkers like MacCulloch, all the above points concerning Islamic hostility for Christians are not open to consideration, for they portray Islam in a negative light and so must be false (see Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians for abundant documentation otherwise.)
Instead, MacCulloch offers politically correct boilerplate statements, such as: "Christians are scapegoated for their faith by an extremist militant minority of Muslims, who betray their own religion by intolerance, and who make other Muslims ashamed of what is happening."
Indeed, it is MacCulloch who betrays himself by characterizing Islam as a "tolerant" faith when any moderately objective reading of doctrine and history—made manifest in daily headlines—all prove the reverse.
Likewise, instead of delving into and exposing the true "heart of the problem," MacCulloch critiques Protestant eschatology and U.S. support for Israel, the consequences of which "have been particularly dire for the traditional Christianities of the Middle East."
It would have been more useful and sincere if he had addressed more glaring questions, for example:
o When the Muslim Brotherhood and its supporters in Egypt torched some 80 churches and murdered Christians, including children—not to mention all the other anti-Christian atrocities they committed before and since—was that because of Israel or something else?
o When Islamic rebels in Syria terrorize Christians, behead their priests and pastors, break Christian crosses and smash icons—all while shouting Islamic slogans—is that because of Israel or something more innate?
o When Muslims in Indonesia illegally close off churches forcing Christians to celebrate Christmas in the streets—only to have cow dung and urine hurled at them—is that because of Israel, or something more ingrained?
o When the Nigerian Islamic group Boko Haram destroys hundreds of churches and slaughters thousands of Christians, and when, on the other side of Africa, the Somali Islamic group Al-Shabaab terrorizes and beheads converts to Christianity—is that because of Israel or something more doctrinal?
o Indeed, when Christian minorities in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip are abducted and forced to convert to Islam, is that because of Israel or the elephant in the room?
MacCulloch is correct about one thing: many Muslims do hate Israel. But that hate, far from prompting the persecution of Christians, is actually a byproduct of the same hostility Islamic supremacism engenders for all non-Muslims. The reason it is much more viral for Israel is because the Jewish state is in a unique position of authority over Muslims unlike vulnerable Christian minorities (as fully explained in this article).
The theme of silence permeates MacCulloch's Daily Beast article—specifically, that Western Christians are silent concerning the plight of their persecuted brethren. This silence is true and troubling—and many mainstream American Protestant denominations are certainly guilty of it.
However, instead of exploiting the sufferings of Christian minorities simply to scapegoat Israel—ironically a nation that is in an existential struggle against the very same ideology and forces that persecute Christians—it might have been better for MacCulloch himself to be silent.
Raymond Ibrahim, author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (Regnery, April, 2013) is a Middle East and Islam specialist, and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.
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Shopping while non-Muslim
On October 10th I received an email from ACT for America that I wish I had read much earlier than today. The email introduces a tongue-in-cheek video that exposes that Islam is NOT a religion of peace! A clue about the nature of the video is that was produced by Acts17Apologetics and placed on their YouTube Channel. Look out Muslim Apologists and Leftist dhimmi apologists, you are about to be exposed as the red-headed stepchild.
"Shopping while non-Muslim"
Sent by ACT for America
Sent: 10/10/2013 01:15 PM
As the video below points out, in places like Nairobi, Kenya, "shopping while non-Muslim" can get you tortured and murdered.
Last year, an obscure video somehow whipped countless Muslims around the world into a frenzy.
After the gruesome jihadist attack in Kenya, nary a peep was heard from most Muslim leaders and organizations around the world, including here in America. Reformist Muslims like Zuhdi Jasser and Tawfik Hamid who denounced the attack were the exception.
The inescapable conclusion is that, for countless Muslims and their leaders, the lives of "infidels" count for nothing compared to 14 minutes of video that nobody had even seen.
VIDEO: The Nairobi Mall Massacre
Published on Sep 28, 2013
Western leaders and the media assure us that the recent terrorist attack at a Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya has nothing to do with Islam, and that the terrorist group al-Shabaab is violating the commands of Allah and Muhammad. But what happens when we open the Qur'an to see what it teaches? We find that Islamic history has been repeating itself for fourteen centuries.
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Frustrated with Muslim Apologists? Me Too!
John R. Houk
© July 29, 2013
Ask a Muslim: Why is the Jesus of the New Testament so peaceful offering a choice of life in Christ or eternal separation from God in the next world in rejecting Jesus while Muhammad of the Quran offered violent repression or physical death in this world for being rejected by non-Muslims?
Ask a Muslim: What is the difference between a Christian history violence and compulsive conversion outside the commands of the New Testament and Islamic violent imperial conquest followed by offering the conquered a compulsory decision of converting, submitting to a repressive lifestyle that submits to Islamic rules or death under direct command of the Quran and Hadith?
I ask these questions because a noticeably upset non-Muslim has written a Facebook Note entitled "The Truth about islam and trying to get 1 muslim to answer a simple question. If you ask are you an islamphob(e)) or islam-realist!" The post does not really ask that "simple question". It does enumerate a list of atrocities committed by Muslims under the direction of Islam's holy writings – the Quran, Hadith and Sira (Sunna). Then the author of the Note quite correctly points out New Testament warnings of believing false prophets and of adding and subtracting from the Word of God. The author's enumeration is that which makes this post relevant for people to read. Indeed, these are things that Christian ministries and Churches need to grow a Gospel background to expose the nature of Islam as opposed to Christian teaching.
Muslims Apologists have learned a Leftist tactic (See Also HERE). When confronted with reality a Muslim Apologist will divert attention from the real answer to a question or a stated accusation that is derived directly from Islam's holy writings. That Muslim Apologist diversion or obfuscation usually likes to point out something like the history of the spread of Christianity is not absent of violence. AND that is true; however the Muslim Apologist will attempt to dominate a conversation by not allowing response to point out Christian violence in converting people is in direct violation of the Word of God found in the New Testament while Muslim violence in converting people is a REQUIREMENT of Islamic holy writings including the Quran considered the direct word of Allah by Muslims. Muslim Apologists have a host of other diversions and obfuscations to confuse the issue of Islamic reality.
Just a heads up I am performing a spell check on the Facebook Note because there is a few grammar/spelling issues indicating it was written hastily in frustration. A frustration by the way that I concur with. There are certain words intentionally un-capitalized which the author explains. I am will not change that grammar and if I do it was an accident except in cases of the beginning of a sentence. I apologize to the author capitalizing at the beginning of a sentence my quirky self is forced to do.
JRH 7/29/13 (Hat Tip; Richard – Against the ideology of Islam!)
The Truth about islam and trying to get 1 muslim to answer a simple question. If you ask are you an islamphob(e) or islam-realist!
Islam is a political agenda, not a religion
July 28, 2013 at 11:46 am
Islam is a political agenda, not a religion
Friends over the last two weeks I must have had "conversations" with over 100 muslims from around the world. Then add to that some liberal – progressive sympathizers of islam. I have asked simple questions and not 1 muslim or appeaser of islam have answer or refuted my charges! Sadly the perversion of the Torah (Old Testament) and the New Testament by these Godless people is amazing! Wait, I use the word amazing when in the bible it talks about false prophecy. Matthew 7:15 "Watch out Friends for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Then I close with this passage in Revelation 22:18-19 New King James: Revelation 22:18-19 King James Version (KJV)
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The Torah was written and finished around 3-4000 BC The New Testament around 40-60AD. Muslims and their appeasers will say that allah was there at the beginning. I point out that the qua'ran was written around 550-600 years after this passage, thus proving that the qua`ran is a complete lie!
Then some said that Jesus and muhammad were one in the same. Which I not only laugh at, I refute with this: Jesus was intelligent, loving, kind, merciful, and "THE SON OF GOD!" muhammad was the following: was a murderer, torturer, adulterer, rapist, con man, thief, pedophile, war monger, and a psychopath. In his delusional state, Satan aka Lucifer came to see that this evil creature, the evilest to ever walk the earth was a complete idiot as well. So the fallen angel spoke to muhammad and muhammad believed the great deceiver and Lucifer aka Satan gave muhammad a delusional vile image to justify muhammad evil and perverted life. You can take that to the bank muslims as this refute is the total 100% truth. Oh and by the way, islam for the 1,000,000 time is not a religion! It's a political agenda run by murdering thugs with the ambition to take over the world and the expense and death to all and any non-muslim! 1,400 years of non-human actions by muslims prove this!
Jesus is 180 degrees different from muhammad, it's the difference between Day and night, good and evil! Jesus is Day and Good, muhammad is night and evil.
I will again go on the record to say that the Fallen Angel Satan aka Lucifer saw muhammad in one of his delusional states and came to muhammad as allah to not only deceive muhammad but to justify the most evil and vile man whom ever lived muhammad.
I will now go into the first 3 commandments That God spoke of Moses, given to Moses from God on Mt Sinai:
And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Obviously muslims by following muhammad and islam prove daily that they are not following these 3 basic commandments and are coveting false idols.
Friends I've been called an "Islamophob(e)" when in reality I am an "Islam-realist!" I where that badge – proudly.
Every time I point out the 1,400 of atrocities to mankind by muslims and followers of islam, no refutes from them. They just pervert and change the subject.
When I mention the 45 Nigerian Christian children butchered in their Christian school, the Coptic Christians slain in Egypt because they are Christians, The Israeli Family ambushed and brutally murdered of which one was a pregnant mother, the Hindi and Buddhists slain, the muslims in Elizabeth NJ and Dearborn MI along with muslims around the world dancing in the streets after the Towers fell on 9/11/2001 and 3,000 were dead! They just mostly ignore and some have the guile to say, it's all in allah's plan! What a disgusting answer, no remorse and ignoring these facts as usual.
Friends if we don't stand up against the islamic tyranny which I barely touched on, there will be more honor killings, murders, beheadings, kidnappings, torture, female genital mutilation, pedophile, gang rape, etc.
Friends in all cultures their all always some evil and wrong doers. But if you study islam in its book the qua`ran and it's right in there which tells its followers to do these things and worse to the nonbeliever, the infidel. Muslims are commanded by the qua`ran to lie to us and when they are in the minority blend in and be nice and wait, wait until you are in the majority and then you can be your true self.
Islam to me is nothing more than a political agenda, hell bent on total world domination at the cost of all infidel's lives and processions. Get a qua`ran, study history as everything because said is 100% fact.
I also purposely will not capitalize islam, muhammad or allah as they don't deserve it!
Frustrated with Muslim Apologists? Me Too!
John R. Houk
© July 29, 2013
The Truth about islam and trying to get 1 muslim to answer a simple question. If you ask are you an islamphob(e) or islam-realist!
Thoughts on Darwish Chain Email – 'Joys of Muslim Women'
John R. Houk
© May 6, 2013
I received a chain email from a respected friend. The chain email has been around for awhile and its most common title is "Joys of Muslim Women." The words of the chain email are attributed to Nonie Darwish. Darwish has become an esteemed Counterjihad writer and speaker. The term Counterjihad means Darwish is scores big on the Muslim and Leftist hate-meter which in turn means Muslim Apologists and Leftist Multiculturalists spew hate towards her by ironically accusing her of Hate Speech.
Briefly Nonie Darwish was born a Muslim in Egypt that also resided in Gaza. Gaza can be nicknamed Hamastan due to the Muslim Brotherhood affiliated Islamic terrorist group Hamas ruling Gaza.
Unfortunately the chain email attribution to Nonie Darwish is a falsehood. However, Darwish agrees that much of the information in the chain email is accurate. Here are some quotes from some fact check websites (that I might illuminate are leaning toward the Left and are quick to display the Islamic Apologist view that utilizes Taqiyya [deception] to contradict Counterjihadists with abrogated verses from the Quran).
Watch Nonie Darwish in a passionate indictment against Islam's Shariah Law in this video:
Nonie Darwish and "Islamic Apartheid" at Temple University
Fact Checkers on Chain Email:
Analysis: Despite the attribution at the top ("Joys of Muslim Women by Nonie Darwish"), this text was not written by Muslim-turned-Christian human rights activist Nonie Darwish; indeed, the bottom two-thirds of it repeatedly refer to her in the third person. Darwish confirmed via email that she did not write the article, though it is, in her words, "to a large extent accurate." She further stated that her 2009 book, Cruel and Usual Punishment, better represents her views.
It should be noted that while the email is at least partially based on Darwish's personal experiences growing up in a Muslim country and reading the Qur'an, her claim that it's to a large extent accurate also means that, even in her opinion, it's not entirely accurate. To say the least, the text is hyperbolic, awash in generalizations, and makes extreme claims about Islam and Islamic practices that do not pertain to all Muslims.
For more on Nonie Darwish's views in her own words, see Cruel and Usual Punishment (Interview) – FamilySecurityMatters.org, 8 January 2009.
For a differing view on the Islamic faith, see Myths About Islam by Christine Huda Dodge – About.com.
Fact Check: Nonie Darwish and Enough Muslims to Elect a President in 20 years – Irregular Times
Posted by Jim Cook
January 23rd, 2011
In this morning's e-mail, Irregular Times received the following message:
Joys of Muslim Women by Nonie Darwish…
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Canada to elect the President or Prime Minister by themselves! Rest assured they will do so… You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA and Canada, Dearborn Mich. is one, Brampton, Ontario is another and there are others…
I think everyone in the U.S. and Canada should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
Claim: Nonie Darwish wrote this article, "The Joys of Muslim Women," or any other piece of writing so titled.
Fact: Nonie Darwish has specifically denied this. The association of Nonie Darwish with this text is a hoax.
Claim: The ACLU is preventing the wide dissemination of the assertion I received by e-mail.
Fact: There is not any record of the ACLU agitating to restrict the dissemination of this text. It would not make sense for the ACLU to agitate to restrict dissemination of this text, since the ACLU is a major proponent of free speech, including freedom of speech for unpopular ideas across the political spectrum. As an empirical matter, a google search for the text "In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. to elect the President by themselves" turns up 17,900 results, indicating a rather wide dissemination. It is nearly impossible to prove that a conspiracy does not exist, so I leave it to you to decide between the two possibilities: Either the ACLU is carrying on a stealthy, invisible and utterly ineffectual campaign to quash the story we received by e-mail this morning, or the ACLU is not trying to quash it at all.
Claim: "In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Canada to elect the President or Prime Minister by themselves!"
Fact: This is a claim we looked at last September after someone used it as a justification of bans on mosque building:
As a mother and a grandmother, I worry. I learned that in 20 years with the rate of the birth population, we will be overtaken by Islam, and their goal is to get people in Congress and the Supreme Court to see that Shariah is implemented. My children and grandchildren will have to live under that.
The truth is that, according to the two most recent studies of religious populations in America, (the American Religious Identification Survey and the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey), Muslims make up only 0.6% of the adult population of the United States. That's approximately 1.8 million out of about 300 million Americans.
Here's a graph showing what we can expect the Muslim population of the United States to look like over the next twenty years if the American Muslim population follows the U.S. birth rate, the World birth rate, or the Saudi birth rate (three reasonable expectations):
The total U.S. population during the period will be somewhere in the range of 300-350 million. Clearly, unless a comet blasts into North America and Muslims put up their secret comet-debris-shields, there is no reasonable scenario under which the American Muslim population will come anywhere close to making up a majority in the next twenty years.
Conclusion: This article is once, twice, three times disconnected from reality.
If you want to read the chain email then you need to stick with me. I am posting it as I received it from my friend. Nonetheless, there are some allegations within the email that are simply meant to stir up an anti-Muslim sentiment among readers. The thing is exaggerated and false statistical stands do not need to be made. A careful examination of the Quran with an understanding of Islam's dualistic theology; that the newest commands from Mohammed (or Allah depending on your perception) outweigh previous commands – the principle is Abrogation; know that although the Quran (See also Chronological Order) is considered the uncreated word of Allah by Muslims BUT the Hadith and Sira weigh in heavily in interpreting the Quran and realize that some Hadith are considered more accurate than others then become cognizant which of those Hadith are the most accepted. Muslim Apologists either knowingly lies by telling an abrogated verse (or surah) is the foundation of Islam. A Muslim theologian can lie with a straight face because Islam's dualistic principles actually can make two opposites true if it serves the purpose of the moment. In Western thought theology is more singular in that the theological thought is either right or wrong and NOT both right dependent on circumstances.
As a reminder Nonie Darwish has said the chain email "Joys of Muslim Women" was not written by her but that the essence of its message is true. Now some of the claims in it are ridiculous yet the anti-woman aspect of the email is valid.
So without further adieu here is the text of that chain email sent to me by a friend.
20 years from now? Frightening!!!!
Sent to me: 5/5/2013 6:41 PM
I am guilty of thinking that each religion had one main prophet and a "golden rule". I am wrong. The Muslim religion is spreading like the plague and it carries the same gruesome results if we do not stop it now.
20 years from now, I will be in Heaven – bye!!!
This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim. Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.
Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish
In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. And then consummate the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
Even though a woman is abused she cannot obtain a divorce.
To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the West World (America and Britain) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife cannot obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.
By passing this on, enlightened American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law. Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel. He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza…
When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing… She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping shariah law – what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Shariah teaches two systems of ethics – one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Shariah encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Shariah advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.
It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East that is silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Britain to elect the President and Prime Minister by themselves! Rest assured they will do so… You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the US… Dearborn Mich. is one…and there are others… Britain has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims.)
I think everyone in the U.S. And Great Britain should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful. Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam. The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While America and Britain are getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children, the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America and Britain.
This is your chance to make a difference! Pass it on to your email list or at least those you think will listen.
Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT! Put your head back under the covers so you can't see the boogie man!
Chain email edited by John R. Houk
Anomalies, Martyrs and Terrorism
Although Justin O. Smith does not mention the term "Islamic Supremacism," that is what he is actually writing about in this essay.
Anomalies, Martyrs and Terrorism
By Justin O. Smith
April 8, 2013 at 1:53pm
The greatest threat to the national security of the United States is not Al Qaeda terrorism, but rather the Islamic faith itself, especially now since Barack Obama seems intent on advancing Islamic interests in our nation over those of American citizens; all of us missed numerous warning signs over three decades leading up to the heinous attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11, however, through the lens of history and present day events, one cannot deny the definitive proof of the violent imperialism intrinsic to Islam. And, despite the number of times anyone asserts in clichéd terms that "not all Muslims are terrorists and not all terrorists are Muslims," the fact remains that America is today less secure than it was on what many Muslims refer to as "the Tuesday of God's glory."
Many people are often beguiled by Islamists' explanations of terrorism. Harrison Akins, Ibn Khaldun Chair Research Fellow at the American University in DC, would have us believe the assertions of Akbar Ahmed, Chair of Islamic Studies-American Univ, that terrorism is mainly a product of tribal dynamics and codes and a fight for "their rights," rather than anything emanating from the edicts of Islam. This sort of victimology dismisses the fact that supposedly "civilized and educated" Muslim doctors, lawyers and engineers have engaged in terrorism, the "intellectual elite" supported Iran's Ayatollah Khomenei and U.S. and European educated Islamists/Muslim Brotherhood members have risen to power and the top positions within Egypt's present day government. Then there is Remziya Suleyman.
Remziya Suleyman is the director of the Tennessee American Muslim Advisory Council, and since 2011 she has worked towards Sharia law in Tennessee as well as proselytizing and presenting Islam inside U.S. public schools. She states that she is "working for religious freedom for Muslims… even if everyone else's religious and constitutional freedoms are abridged in the process." Suleyman also involved Hamas affiliated CAIR in her protest at the Tennessee capitol against the anti-terrorism bill.
Although there are many current cases of attempted terrorist acts by islamofascists residing in the U.S., two older cases are more relevant in light of the recent focus on U.S. border security:
On July 28, 2004, custom officials in McAllen, Texas arrested Farida Goolam Mohamed Ahmed at the airport, when they noticed her South African passport lacked an official entry stamp for the United States. It was soon discovered that this Muslim woman had entered the U.S. illegally; she proved to be a terrorist courier operating between the Middle East mujahadeen and an Al Qaeda cell in New York, as she sneaked into the U.S. nearly 300 times before her arrest. Information from her interrogations led to the arrests of several Al Qaeda agents in Mexico.
Also in 2004, during a search for the terrorist Al Qaeda member, U.S. citizen and nuclear technician known as Adnan el-Shukrijumah, another key Al Qaeda operative, Sharif al-Masri, was arrested in Pakistan. Masri had close ties to al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's second in command, and during an interrogation he disclosed that Al Qaeda had made arrangements to smuggle tactical nuclear weapons from Mexico to the U.S. with the help of the Mara Savatrucha Latino street gang.
During the 1970s, India fought a fierce war with her Muslim citizens, until the regions known today as Pakistan and Bangladesh were won by the Muslims. Bangladesh, originally tied to Pakistan politically and under the same government, soon fought an internecine war for independence due to Islamic doctrinal differences. And now today, the Muslims currently living in India are attempting to claim the rest of India and impose Sharia law; the conquest never stops!
Just this year, the world has seen new Islamic generated conflicts, as Uighur Muslims in western China (near the Afghanistan border) have stirred in a move towards independence, the Islamic Maghreb and Taureg rebels temporarily held the northern half of Mali and the Rohingya Muslims of Myanmar have attacked the Buddhists. Although the following has occurred often over the centuries, on April 6, the Muslims in Egypt also once more felt compelled to mount an unprovoked attack on Egypt's Coptic Christians.
On January 13, 2013, America was once again forced to watch Muslims mock our U.S. Constitution, as Mustafaa Carroll, Executive Director of CAIR/Dallas-Ft Worth area, stated at an Islamic rally in Austin, Texas: "If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land." He also dismissed critics of Sharia law as being "anti-foreign." But one should also note that numerous current and ex-FBI agents, such as Mike Rolf ('Muslim Mafia') and John Guandolo have referred to CAIR offices as "a turnstile for terrorists and their supporters."
In February 2013, a Syrian born Arab-American woman and psychiatrist, Dr. Wafa Sultan wrote in part in 'The Rutherford Reader': "I do not view Islam as a religion. Islam is a political doctrine, which imposes itself by force. Any doctrine whatsoever that calls to kill those who do not believe in it is not a religion." This same view is held by Stephen Coughlin, Navy War College lecturer, Lt Colonel Matthew Dooley, Joint Forces Staff College, Shireen Burki (JFSC), General William G. Boykin (ex-Commander/US Special Forces), myself and many others across America.
A few years ago, Salman Rushdie gave a lecture on C-SPAN from New York. The complete essence of his message was that when a Muslim moves from the Middle East to any place else, say Shelbyville or Murfreesboro, Tennessee, he is not looking to take advantage of the American way of life to better himself. Rather, he sees himself as part of the advance guard to spread Islam to his new country, whether he arrives legally or illegally; it is long past time that we demand of our leaders the expulsion of all Muslims not holding U.S. citizenship!
Some of the world's so-called "intellectuals" saw a seeming shift within the ummah/worldwide Islamic community, when The Islamic Society (operates Denmark's largest mosque) and Minhaj ul Quran (Danish offshoot of a Pakistani anti-blasphemy group) denounced the failed assassination attempt on Lars Hedegaard, an anti-Islam polemicist, and they defended his right to speak freely; however, America and any nation that harbors Muslims should not take away too much hope from this anomaly, because, holistically, an easily estimated 400 million islamofascists across the globe still don't mind burning or beheading people simply on the charge of blasphemy, adultery, insulting Mohammed or apostasy… and, three-fourths of the remainder stand back and allow it in tacit approval.
America needs a few extremists of Her own to grasp the mantle of truthful, credible leadership… men and women who exhibit various combinations of eloquence, strategic vision, patience, combat record and managerial skills. Remember Senator Barry Goldwater's words delivered to the 1964 Republican National Convention: "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." This is not to suggest we recruit our own murderous terrorists after the fashion of Mariam Farhat, Palestinian Legislative Council member and "Mother of Martyrs" (died March 17, 2013 in Gaza City), who encouraged three sons to die in suicide attacks against Israel and told her four year old grandson in 2004, "You will be a martyr one day." It simply means we fight with every means available to save our nation and our freedom, not shrinking from combat in any arena that may prove necessary, as we hope for the emergence of a leader the caliber of Washington, Jefferson and Reagan… a leader who understands that while there may be shades of opinion among Muslims, as a totalitarian system of thought Islam has remained unchanged for 1200 years, and there is no such thing as a peaceful, tolerant, coexistent and "moderate" Islam"!
By Justin O Smith
© Justin O. Smith
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Wow. Didn't need an analyst to come to that conclusion. All you have to do is attend any Harley event. Some younger riders, yes. But for the most part WE are getting older. And I include myself in that group.
Good luck attracting the 20 somethings. Studies have shown they're more likely to live at home and are "taking longer to grow up". Hard to convince someone to buy a Harley when the thought of paying rent doesn't cross their minds....
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/yes-20-somethings-are-taking-longer-to-grow-up-but-why/265750/Hide replies
20 somethings aren't in to Elvis Presley either. Times change, Harley doesn't.
Don't Be Cruel ...
20 somethings want performance. They can find that in 10k crotchrockets long before buying 35k CVO's.
Which is why my 20 something nephew bought his second Harley?
your nephew is in the minority, not majority.
Even young people with money are choosing to spend it elsewhere, not just those who live under mommy and daddy's roof.
@52...20 somethings are buying 10K crotchrockets? Can you show some data that supports that? Because motorcycle registrations show Harley outselling sportbike manufacturers in the young adult category.
Between Yamaha, Honda and Kawasaki, they build over 100,000,000 motorcycles a year, the average age of their buyers? 25.
Unless HD is making more that a million bikes and they all sold to 25 year olds, you numbers are humongous liars.
HA! Care to share your research or methodology? I'll go out on a limb and guess that there's no data you could actually point to to support your assertion. Safe to assume you took five minutes to search the manufacturers websites and took their total sales figures as "research"? Of course, conveniently forgetting the difference between a scooter and a motorcycle, on-road versus off-road, US and Europe versus India...$600 vehicle sold at 3% margin versus, you know, actual motorcycles that people WANT to ride? But those three manufacturers somehow have a lock on the "youth" market? Yeah...hitch your wagon to that dream! You're doing the metric market proud, dude!
Does it really take an analyst to tell everybody that Harley riders are getting older ?
Just go to one of their gatherings . . . you may get the treat of see a geriatric female with bare butt spats.Hide replies
Think of it as looking at two big white prunes
I'm gonna be 75 this year and I can still ride 500 miles a day. So what if we're getting old?
We love to ride, ride, ride!
Harley line of geriatric products: adult diapers, wheelchairs, walkers & they can follow their market to the grave or crematorium with customized coffins and urns.
Fifty year old men with an identity crisis. Grow a beard, put on a bandanna and do a Peter Fonda imitation. Born to be mild....Hide replies
yeah, I get a kick out that imitation.and the Corvette crowd is not far behind.
Also the Trek, Porche, Mercedes,etc....., crowds!!!!
Fire that guy if it took this long to figure that out.
Whats your point? We all are. So are Chevy drivers, Indian riders, and so on...Hide replies
Do the "Chevy drivers" head out to Sturgis for by the tens of thousands, dressed alike and party it up with aged rock bands playing hits from 50 years ago?
No "Chevy drivers" head to the nearest juck yard!
While older people generally have more disposable income for purchases such as motorcycles, Harley's problem is that its bikes are viewed, fairly accurately, as overweight, excessively loud, cookie-cutter motorcycles built on 25 year old technology. You're not going to attract younger riders when your existing riders are viewed as middle-aged, trashy individuals with identity crises that all dress alike in some misguided attempt to be a rebel.Hide replies
you just described the "Harley Lifestyle" the Marketing people want you to buy into.
I've been riding since 1999, and in the past 15 years I have seen more diversity at H-D dealers, rallies across the country, etc. (Women, minorities, younger people) Not sure where this analyst is getting his/her data. Last statistics I saw, Harley was leading in Do they want to sell short on H-D stock? Did they ever leave their office?
I don't ride because I have a mid-life crisis. I ride because it is FUN!Hide replies
These dang word processors, I wanted to say Harley was leading in the Younger rider category. These gosh-darn computers, where is my typewriter! :-)
Your typewriter is in your garage, with your Harley and your record player.
Actually, the record player would be in your 22-year-old son's apartment at college, where he prefers to play vinyl records (which are making a comeback). Sadly, he also prefers riding a bike to riding a Harley like his grandpa.
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