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Britain's Got Talent 2012 - Auditions Official Thread
Thought that we should have a special thread for discussion of the upcoming auditions, so if you have applied, talk about your hopes/experiences on here and more.
Applications were meant to close on 11 September but they forwarded it to 22nd. Who's applied, if so what are you going to do?
So to kick this off, i've applied and i'm singing.
Mon, 09/19/2011 - 20:31
My daughter is auditioning
My daughter is auditioning again this will be the 5th time now and she's yet to make it through to the judges.
Sophie's just turned 16 and isn't sure which route to go down this time with a popular song or musical theatre. I've attached a couple of video clips if you have any suggestions or advice they'd be gratefully received.
Good luck to anyone else auditioning this time around :)
in my humble opinion she's
in my humble opinion she's stronger on the pop one
oops just realised you put
oops just realised you put this up ages ago
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:44
Hey good luck to your
Hey good luck to your daughter! I am doing musical theatre too :) 19 M from London :) Where is she hoping to audition this year ? x
Wed, 11/07/2012 - 20:22
I have before
I auditioned twice but never got through to the first producers, once with X Factor and BGT few year back. Trying again this year. I think the problem is, when you see people on TV everyone thinks its their first audition. So 80% of people who never been before think they are singing in front of the actual judges.
Thu, 11/08/2012 - 21:47
the pop song
both are good but the pop one is stronger vocally
Hard choice they both sound
Hard choice they both sound really good. Good luck to your daughter what ever 1 she choses and everyone else auditioning
manchester bgt audition
my names paula and i got my date and venue today its in Manchester on the
30th october at the central convention complex good luck to all those entering, anyone else going to Manchester ??? xx
Good luck Paula! Can you tell
Good luck Paula!
Can you tell me, did you get a choice of audition date/time or were you just allocated it?
I'm only asking because my daughter has applied and is waiting to hear.
Thank you!
Thu, 10/20/2011 - 17:53
They usually give you an
They usually give you an audition slot but expect to be there for a few hours. When the auditions were at the Lowry a few years ago we were in an out within an hour but that is the only time. The rest of the time we've been between 2.5 and 5 hours.
Good luck to your daughter
Thu, 02/09/2012 - 14:19
Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:17
Sun, 10/23/2011 - 22:00
Britain's Got Talent Auditions
Hello, we got through to Britain's Got Talent and our audition is at Manchester Central Convention Complex at 16:00.
Laura and Megan xx
Sat, 10/29/2011 - 10:58
Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:30
I was there that date at
I was there that date at 1pm..have you heard anything? :)
Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:39
I was there that date at
I was there that date at 1pm..have you heard anything? :)
Sun, 01/29/2012 - 12:38
BGT 2012 Birmingham
Hi. I have me audition on 12/12/2011 thats next Monday at 1.30pm at the NEC in Birmingham.
ive got wed 13th in
ive got wed 13th in birmingham
Has anyone heard about the
Has anyone heard about the Birmingham audition, when & where they will be?? I'm still waiting to hear.... :-S Claire
BGT 2012 Birmingham
Hi. I have my audition on 12/12/2011 thats next Monday at 1.30pm at the NEC in Birmingham.
Tue, 10/25/2011 - 11:25
Cardiff audition
I had my email through this morning for Cardiff on Nov. 4th. Different place this year, the last three times I've been it was at a hotel, but this time it is at the CIA arena. Annoyingly, I've been called for the Friday morning, when I work in a job where we have a 3-way rotation for Friday morning, Friday afternoon and Saturday. Guess which one I'm working that week. Think it's time to use a bit of leave.
Will I see anyone there?
Yes! I got a phone call
Yes! I got a phone call followed by an email 24 hours later for the Manchester auditions. I also got another one for the Blackpool auditions. So...apply for more than one venue. I thought that because I had been to Manchester I wouldnt get one at Blackpool, but it seems that there are probably too many people (50,000 auditions from what we were told at Manchester) applying for them to check out each person individually. This way, you get more than one chance! Go for it!
Birmingham Audition
OMG, Time does fly, don't seem 5mins since the last one I have applied for Birmingham 2012 audition. Last year the auditions for Birmingham were in December so it could be around that time again. Will let everyone know when mine comes. xx
Fri, 10/28/2011 - 20:40
We queued outside for about two hours, upstairs and through holding room to registration room (and to collect your sticky numbers), then into holding room where you sit in allocated sections (you'll be allocated a section when you register). (all the time they are filming you in the holding room wihtout you realising with different cameras). Our group (the 1pm lot) was then taken outside to film opening sequences waving and shouting to cameras on an overhead crane, and under the tunnels etc that we walked through. This took a good hour out of the waiting time in the holding room - about two hours. Then our section was called upstairs (about 10 of us) where we sat in a corridor and waited and then each went in in turn. Inside there was a guy with a cd player (casting director) and a cameraman filming you. I think it's more of a timed thing rather than sing more than one song thing. I was allowed to sing 2 verses and 2 choruses. (I even started wrong and was allowed to restart!) Then out and you get a paper telling you to expect news around February. Then home!! That's about it really! The whole of the holding room is done out with special lighting and cameras are filming you all the time. There werent any filiming the queue but maybe they did that to a previous group! all in all, long queues...but tons of fun!
my BGT audition
hey guys! love the forum, gave me a lot of info i wanted to know.
got to my audition for 8 oclock this morning (30th oct), got through all the filming rubbish and got into the audition room. i play guitar and sing, i played cannonball by Damien rice, the producer seemed to like it, she then asked me to sing another without the guitar, do you think this was a good thing or a bad thing?
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 17:47
Bgt audition
Could be good but don't get your hopes up. Last year I was filmed in the holding room and the producer asked lots of questions and loved my performance (I play flute), but I didn't get called back. One thing I've learnt is not to read into anything.
yeah i am definitely thinking
yeah i am definitely thinking into it too much haha thanks!
they said if you were successful you'd hear by feb at the latest, has anyone got through in a previous year and heard before then??
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 21:36
I have to agree with you
I have to agree with you about the forum, when my daughter auditioned the first time it was great for being able to find out what exactly went on and manage her expectations and everyone is really friendly.
I can only really tell you what we've found when Sophie's auditioned in the past. She's been 4 times now and never made it past the producers audition despite their surprise at how old she is and being asked twice to sing a second song. The way she looks at it being asked to sing another song has got to be a good thing but then after that it's back to the usual numbers game. She's realistic about that especially as she's now only just turned 16 and understands that there are loads of girls like her, not old enough to audition for X Factor, so once she comes out of the audition room takes the good feedback and moves onto the next thing.It's never let it put her off auditioning again for BGT after all someone has to get through.
Fingers crossed for you and if you've already impressed enough to be asked to sing another song then you're already closer than if they only let you sing a verse and a chorus and you must have something that the producer was interested in for them to want to see something else.
its all about making good TV
its all about making good TV i suppose. if she was impressed enough to ask for another song she must have seen something she liked, just the waiting game now though i suppose!
good luck to Sophie!! fingers crossed for everyone on the forum too!
they said if you were
they said if you were successful you'd hear by feb at the latest, has anyone got through in a previous year and heard before feb??
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 20:21
BGT Contact
They say February so people don't call them up asking for news before that. In fact, I know from this forum in previous years that people are contacted earlier, and the auditions themselves take place in January.
thats what i was
thats what i was thinking!
good stuff, thanks a lot!
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 21:14
If the same follows as
If the same follows as previous years you'll hear before Christmas or the first week of the new year if you've got through. Quite often the under 16's are contacted fairly early on because of sorting our performance licences and from what I've read on here in the past it doesn't necessarily follow the order of the auditions either. I've heard of people auditioning in Liverpool being told before others in Manchester even though the Manchester auditions have taken place first.
Hello again,
Has Sophie entered this year? I hope so!!!
I've entered but not had a date to attend yet. Well it will come when it comes. I'm not going to get myself all worked up this year well until they send me the invite! :) Luv Michelle xx
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 22:30
Hi Michelle Yes Sophie has
Hi Michelle
Yes Sophie has entered again this year but she's expecting it to be the same as every other year. Although this year she's decided to try a different city to see if that makes any difference. So far she still hasn't decided what to sing and isn't sure if she should go down the pop or musical theatre route.
We're still waiting for a date for audition but you can still apply to Liverpool so not sure when to expect it really. Sophie's turned 16 now though so she can apply for the Voice on BBC1 and is hoping that she'll have more luck with that that she has on BGT in the past.
Good Luck xx
The Voice
I have a feeling Sophie will do well this year!!!
I have entered 'The Vioce' and have got my audition on saturday. I'm very excited!!
I can't remember if I told you what happened when I entered 'Britain does Variety'. Well, I ended up getting as far as the grand final (top 30 in the country) I was very proud of myself as been as I'm very new to all of this.
Anyway, please keep me informed of how Sophie does.
"Good luck to you Sophie, you will go far"
Luv Shell xx
Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:06
Thanks Shell Good Luck on
Thanks Shell
Good Luck on Saturday you'll have to let us know how you get on.
Well done on Britain does Variety and you should be very proud really please for you. Sophie never got past the regional final unfortunately but she's planning on entering again for next year anyway, Not getting through never seems to put her off!
Keeping our fingers crossed for Saturday for you
Mandy & Sophie
Thu, 11/10/2011 - 19:24
Hi, I got to the National
Hi, I got to the National Final of Britain Does Variety too xx Good luck with you BGT Audition xx
Auditioned in Edinburgh with my mate. We were filmed in the holding room, having a conversation, then singing.
When we eventually auditioned in front of the judge, he didn't give much away. But asked us to sing 2 songs. Then we were told to wait behind for 10 minutes afterwards, before a female crew member told us the judge liked our performance and wanted us to do some filming. She didn't realise we had already been filmed, and seemed surprised that we had.
Then, I got a call from BGT at 10pm that very night, once we had got back home, asking if we could come back at 9am the next day for more filming.
It was too short-notice, unfortunately. Will they hold that against us? We didn't realise there was a chance we had to come back the next day. And do the above signs sound promising? Fingers crossed.
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 22:11
Fingers Crossed
Certainly sounds good. I've never heard of anyone being recalled the following day. If they want you on the Televised auditions I can't imagine they would discount you for not doing the extra filming. After all if they need more they can do it at the judges auditions. Don't get your hopes up though. I've learnt that it never goes as expected.
Sun, 10/30/2011 - 22:34
Sounds very promising, I
Sounds very promising, I haven't heard of anyone being called back so soon either and I can't imagine that they would hold it aganst you that you couldn't go the next day, there's never been anything in the contract you have to sign that says you have to be available the next day at all and if they were that interested to want to see you again I can't imagine that would suddenly change.
Good luck we'll keep our fingers crossed for you
Mon, 10/31/2011 - 13:36
The auditions themselves are filmed individually in separate rooms. In the holding room some people get filmed individually or in groups. There is a high camera which films everything that goes on, so sometimes you're being filmed without realising it. Sometimes you'll be asked specifically to be filmed, often if you're doing something unusual or maybe you have a lot of supporters with you, or maybe you're a group act and you're all in costume.
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 09:54
They sometimes film the whole crowd shouting things like Cardiff's Got Talent and Welcome to Cardiff. Sometimes individual acts get filmed in the holding room, and that footage might be shown if the act is shown auditioning in front of the judges. They're constantly filming the holding the room, and they may or may not use that in the shows.
Cardiff Auditions On Friday
Hi, Just Had My Audition,
They film the auditions are take them so they can study them and decide who's shortlisted.
Cardiff Auditions On Friday
Hi, Just Had My Audition,
They film the auditions are take them so they can study them and decide who's shortlisted.
Short list
Hi no they are all over 16 and heard a few days after audition, however as I said previously, some adults only get a few days notice they are through, and some others are asked to go to other areas for the live shows. so its not over until a few days before the final judges audition.
Fri, 02/03/2012 - 13:26
are you colin from kilmarnock i was sitting with the wife waiting to be filmed what did you do they were wanting to film you the next day a can vouch for that but dont worry they wont hold it against you you have a weapon the killie pie that would put a sile on there face lol
First time audition
Hi There,
My names Helen, Ive got an audition this friday in Cardiff, i have never done bgt before and in fact this is my first ever audition. Im going to be singing, can anyone give me any advise on what to expect and also it says to just do a verse and a chorus but my backing track is of the whole song do they stop you. any advise would be really appreciated.
Thanks xx
Mon, 10/31/2011 - 20:34
Hi Helen, We've been for the
Hi Helen,
We've been for the last few years and so far the format has been pretty much the same. I hasten to add it isn't me that auditions :)
There seems to be no way to know how much they will let you sing sometimes though they will ask you to sing another song and Sophie got caught out the first time because she was so sure that all they wanted was a verse or chorus she couldn't think of another song that she knew. So be prepared just in case. If your song is longer that the time they are going to allow then they'll stop you so I wouldn't worry.
As for the rest of the experience always best to make sure you have something warm on, last year we queued outside for over 3 hours in the freezing cold but in previous years we've been straight inside. Take food and drink with you if you can because in the venues it is usually expensive and you usually end up waiting around for a long time.
Despite all that we have met some lovely people and had a great time getting to know people sharing stories etc. So far Sophie has auditioned 4 times this will be her 5th and she has never made it through to the judges. Everytime she has sung, with the exception of the first because she was just so nervous, she has had great feedback of the producer in the room but she has always understood that BGT is a numbers game. If anything the best advice I can give to anyone is enjoy the experience asnd no matter what the feedback is that you get in the audition room try not to get too hung up on waiting for the phone to ring. Some people on here tie themselves up in knots trying to second guess if they are going to get through. I know that's easier said than done, Sophie may only be 16 but somehow she manages to get through the audition accept the feedback and move onto the next thing, I find it much harder lol
Good luck and don;t forget to let us know how you get on
Mandy xx
Hi Mandy, thanks for
Hi Mandy, thanks for messaging me & thanks for the good advice. im so nervous, i haven't slept all week and im 33 so i dont know how Sophie copes at just 16. I will take your advice and prepare a second song just in case. i will let you know how i get on, good luck to Sophie, i hope she can make it through to the judges
Take Care
Helen xx
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 10:45
Friday audition
Are you in the morning or the afternoon? I'm there in the morning. I'm wondering if I'll see anyone from the forum. This will be my 4th time, and I've yet to make it through to the judges. It's a fun day though, and even if you have to wait a while to audition there's always loads going on in the holding room.
Hi Elinor, My audition is in
Hi Elinor,
My audition is in the afternoon. The e mail says its at 1pm is that when the audition will be or when i have to be there by ? Hope your audition goes ok. xx
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 12:11
Everyone gets the same call time. I've been in the afternoon everytime up until now, and people are starting to queue as early as 11:00, just because it takes a while to get everyone through registration. Don't panic if you're not there that early though, if you're there in time you'll get registered. The session usually starts with one of the team giving a welcome and explaining how the afternoon will work. Sometimes there's some filming of everyone together, just shouting things like Cardiff's Got Talent. Then they call people in groups to go to the audition rooms. The first time I went I was in the second group to be called, but other times I've been waiting two or three hours. Bring a book or something.
I cant get there that early
I cant get there that early as got to do the school run first and then me and my husband are getting the train down. I think the train is due in to cardiff about 12:20 so hopefully it not that far from the arena. Part of me is excited and the other part just wants it to be over. I have never been so nervous. What is the actually audition like, is it just you and a producer? Do they film you?
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:23
Cardiff on Friday
No it's not that far. I live in Cardiff; I reckon it's no more than 10 mins walk, although if you don't know the route you could taxi it, the taxis go from right outside the station. You can also get a train to Cardiff Queen Street, then the arena is just along the road. The audition is with a producer and someone with a camera. The idea is that all auditions are filmed and then the tapes can be reviewed later. The camera operator doesn't really do anything though, it's the producer in charge. They're all very friendly, and used to nervous people, so you don't need to worry. I used to get nervous but I'm more experienced now, and having done formal musical training up to postgrad level I can cope quite well.
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 16:08
Cardiff Auditions
Hi Helen
Good luck with your audition on Friday! I'm going tomorrow (Thursday) in the afternoon! Never auditioned for BGT before. I am very nervous as at 42 yrs old, i may feel a bit past it!
Does anyone know if they give you a microphone to audition with, or do you just get to sing without one? it would be interesting to know!
Also, my audition timeslot is 4pm, I wonder what time I'll be away for to catch a train home?
Good luck everyone! xx
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 16:09
Cardiff Auditions
Hi Helen
Good luck with your audition on Friday! I'm going tomorrow (Thursday) in the afternoon! Never auditioned for BGT before. I am very nervous as at 42 yrs old, i may feel a bit past it!
Does anyone know if they give you a microphone to audition with, or do you just get to sing without one? it would be interesting to know!
Also, my audition timeslot is 4pm, I wonder what time I'll be away for to catch a train home?
Good luck everyone! xx
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 21:06
Cardiff Audition
Hi, Same Day For Me,
There Is A Producer There And After A Certain Ammount Of Time They May Stop You If It Is Long.
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 15:27
Cardiff audition
Is no one else on here going to be there on Friday morning? Everyone seems to be Thursday or Friday afternoon. It would be great to put some faces to names. I'll be there with a flute, probably wearing a posh frock.
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 17:51
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:54
No word yet
Yeah! I applied in october and they said the same to me but I haven't heard anything yet:( unless their just running behind but I'm getting nervous sense it's now November and the auditions in Belfast are In 19 days ;O can you just go even if you haven't got an email in time?
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:18
No word yet
19 days is a long time by BGT standards so don't panic yet. I got 10 days notice of my audition this year, and in the past its been a week. The email may well come.
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 16:21
no word still
Do you know if there is a contact number,because i have searched the life out of google and still no luck :/ or Even if your email hasnt arrived can you still go down to the venue and apply there? Fingers crossed i get word soon!
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 09:48
Belfast auditions
According to the dates that Hassaan provided in another post, the Belfast auditions are two weeks on Sunday, in which case I would imagine you won't hear until the end of next week at the earliest. I know its hard reading about other people getting emails and doing their auditions, but don't panic. The phone number is 0207 691 5001, or you can email them on firstname.lastname@example.com. However I don't think you need to worry; just because a lot of people have heard doesn't mean you won't.
Wed, 11/02/2011 - 00:23
There are no open auditions, you have to have been invited by phone or email. However I've always had the impression that as long as you apply before your venue is full, you'll get seen. I could be wrong though. Last year I didn't hear until well into November, because Cardiff was visited in December. If your city is one of the later ones to be visited, that would explain why you haven't heard yet.
emails are now going out for
emails are now going out for these auditions
Tue, 11/01/2011 - 18:19
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 09:50
According to the post from Hassaan Birmingham isn't until mid-December. Maybe they've got two lots, it's a popular city. London is also December.
BGT 2012 Birmingham
Hi. I have my audition on 12/12/2011 thats next Monday at 1.30pm at the NEC in Birmingham.
will be there for the 9am audition on the 4th
look forward to seeing you all on the 4th for the 9am aduitions. anyone else had a call back form BGT or an Extra email before the audition?
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 09:42
I had a phone call apparently, although they called my home number while I was at work and my landlord took the message. I missed a call from an unknown number on my mobile so that might have been them I suppose. Apparently they just said something about an email, so I imagine they were just checking that I had received the email about my audition. See you tomorrow maybe. I'll be the one with the flute. What are you doing?
thanks for this, I put in an
thanks for this, I put in an application for the liverpool auditions and i was just wondering if anyone else has and if so have you received a call or an email yet? Im just wanting to know because my friend who i'm auditioning with is getting a bit frantic!


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Updated: October 9, 2012, 5:35 PM ETAssociated Press
Ballot and comments from AP Pro 32 panel voter Clifton Brown of Sporting News:
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1. San Francisco 49ers -- Love their intensity, even when holding a huge lead. Face rematch Sunday against Giants.
2. Houston Texans -- Losing Brian Cushing will hurt, although they have dealt well with injuries before.
3. Chicago Bears -- Opportunistic defense has scored more than Jacksonville's offense the past two weeks.
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Learning from the Future: A Report from an AAUW Tech Savvy Conference 10February
There is no doubt about it, YWTF Chicago will be back at AAUW's TechSavvy events in 2015. Here's what the YWTF chapter had to say about the STEM conference. Read more »
AAUW's Support of Hungarian Scientists 06February
Last year AAUW began a collaboration with the Alcoa Foundation to encourage new generations of scientists, engineers, and mathematicians and to extend our own successful STEM programs to sites where […] Read more »
Budget 101: What the President's New Plan Means for Women 04February
What's the main focus of this year's proposed budget? Middle class economics. Key to that approach is a rejection of Congress' plans to continue a policy of austerity through cuts or sequestration. Read more »
Beyond Bossy, Slutty, or Bitchy: College Students Fight Gender Stereotypes 29January
The attitudes behind words like "bitch" and "bossy" are dangerous — they reinforce stereotypes that follow kids into adulthood, and they intersect with discrimination that's based on race, sexuality, gender identity, and disability. But these college students are changing that. Read more »
School Vouchers Discriminate — Don't Do the Voucher Hustle 26January
Help us oppose voucher schemes, thinly veiled as "school choice," by sending a message to your senators urging them to oppose vouchers and support education priorities that benefit all children. Read more »
A Look Back at where Pay Equity Has Been and where It's Going 20January
When it comes to reaching pay equity, the pace of change is glacial. Just how long will it take until we see equal pay? At this rate, it could be more than 100 years. Read more »
Thriving or Surviving in the Freelance Economy 14January
Freelance work is on the rise. But is it a boon or a burden for women workers? Read more »


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Apply sunscreen 30 minutes before going outdoors: Sunscreen ingredients need time to bind to the skin to be effective. If you apply it at the beach you could get burned in the time it takes for it to work. Be sure to apply sunscreen over all exposed skin and even on cloudy days when as much as 40% of the sun's rays reach the earth. Reapply every 2 hours and immediately after swimming and heavy sweating.
When choosing a sunscreen look for broad spectrum sunscreens that contain ingredients such as Avobenzone (Parsol 1789), Mexoryl or zinc or titanium oxide: According to Dr. Zweibel, these ingredients are particularly effective at blocking the widest spectrum of ultraviolet light including UVA that is largely responsible for the deeper damage that can lead to skin cancer and premature signs of aging.
Avoid the midday sun: The hours between 10 AM and 4 PM are when the sun is the strongest and can do the most damage, "One of the most important things you can do to protect your skin besides applying a sunscreen is to manage your exposure time and wear protective clothing, such as long sleeved shirts, pants and a broad-brimmed hat," says Samuel Beran, MD, a plastic surgeon with Westchester Health Associates, a clinical affiliate of The Mount Sinai Medical Center. Limiting exposure to the sun will also help prevent the many of the visible skin changes attributed to aging--wrinkles, brown spots and sagging skin--that are mostly caused by the sun's ultraviolet (UV) radiation.
Protect children from sun exposure. Keep newborns out of the sun. For children six months and over, apply sunscreen
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A 19-year-old Reading man who was having some trouble raising $50,000 to save a homeless shelter, got a major boost.
Officials at Chick-Fil-A said they saw a story that aired on 69 News, and hard to something to lend a helping hand.
"Yeah, that was all it took, you know, just one story, and it kind of hit our hearts," said Andrew Smither, Chick-Fil-A.
Motivated by his pastor, Edgar Tafolla, 19, is trying to save City Light Ministries, which offers shelter to hundreds of Reading's homeless.
It may not be able to open this winter if costly upgrades are not made.
Tafolla put this small box on the counter of his job at Mi Casa Su Casa restaurant in Reading.
His goal is to raise $50,000, but back in July, donations were slow, and he had only raised $50.
Moved by Tafolla's cause, Friday, Chick-Fil-A donated $2,600 to City Light Ministries.
Three Chick-Fil-A locations donated 10 percent of their profits for one day and handed the check to Pastor Joe Sclafani who runs the shelter.
"We're closer and closer every day. We're well passed halfway. An we're going to get there," said Sclafani.
"I'm amazed, and I can only thank God for such a miracle that people answered the call in such a way," said Tafolla.
Pastor Sclafani says he will be speaking with architects and city officials next week to finalize how much it will take to make sure City Light Ministries is open for the homeless this winter.
If you'd like to help Tafolla in his quest to raise $50,000 for City Light Ministries, you can leave your donation at Mi Casa Su Casa at 320 Penn Street in Reading, or you can donate directly to City Light Ministries.


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Singapore's Personal Data Protection Act may have kicked in earlier this month, but not all security guards and building front-line staff are prepared for the new law, which mandates they must answer questions by visitors on how data is used and stored.
A check by The Straits Times at several building reception counters, where security guards routinely ask visitors to hand over their identity cards to gain entry, found that few had all the answers at their fingertips.
With the full implementation of the Act on July 2, visitors must be informed of what information on them is collected and what the data is used for.
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New noise from RH Head area - high mileage 1150 ADV...
Hi all,
For the last few days I've noticed a new noise from the RH head area on my 2002 1150 Adv - 160k miles.
I've embedded a couple of videos - simply because I don't have a facility just to record sound. The noise is a high pitched clicking - I'm wondering if it's arcing from the HT lead - although there's no visible sign of that.
Plus the whole thing clanks like a Victorian central heating system, but frankly, I'm used to that... :D

Any ideas?http://mikeo.smugmug.com/photos/185989574_Rd8YN-Ti.gif
Mike :cool:
I'm amazed you can put up with all that racket - Certainly seems like self destruction is imminent but if it's been doing that for a long time already, perhaps not. At 160K miles, it doesn't owe you much anyway.
Cam chain tensioner? Sounds like it's flopping around pretty good. :1drink
Sorry - should have mentioned that there has been no roughness, drop in performance or change in fuel consumption. The video was taken at the end of a 250 mile day and the engine was hot, for what it's worth.
It doesn't sound as rough as a nut floating about, it's quite a delicate sound - plus I would expect the tappet in question to adjust itself without a locknut and produce some other symptom - typically performance.
I did the left hand cam chain tensioner mod about three years ago.
Did you check throttle shaft bushing on that side? Small thing but can be noisy.
Could also be a breaking up cam chain guide. Look in the oil for black plastic crumbs.
He'll of a coincidence.
I just took video of the same thing. Same problem, same sound, same side. I hear a " delicate" chain type sound like you describe. 2004 1150GS. I figured I would crack it open this weekend and do the valve check and rocker arm end play first. After that I guess it's cam chain tensioner or chain guide. I will be watching your thread and will report anything I find.
Any chance to share the bikes history? At that mileage it's hard to guess.
However, also due to a clonking noise, I recently pulled apart my 1150 with 70k miles, 1 out of 4 cam chain guides were left. The rest broke off and ended in pieces. Even the tensioner piston, right hand side, was badly worn due to direct contact with the chain.
Mind you the bike was running fine if not for the noise.
I changed the set, as well as he chains but held back on valves, to keep costs down.
Now an inlet valve is bent, discernible by trying to spin it in place but it won't.
I am still waiting for the parts to come and provide an update.
Sounds like it may be a loose pushrod head. It has shown up on higher mileage engines.
There is a thread on this site that deals with that subject.
Thanks for all replies.
I have owned the bike from new (Mar 2002). Main dealer serviced for the first two years (up to 42k miles IIRC) - by me thereafter. The heads have not been off the bike. 6k oil changes using dino oil. Cam chain tensioner mod fitted about three years ago.
Mike :brow
Pull the valve cover and look for debris from a tensioner....hopefully it's not more than that.
If it is tensioner debris, remove what you can and ride on.
Video recorded this morning when the engine was cold...

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So is the knocking normal?
I have my original TBs in a drawer - I think I'll have them refurbed over the winter.
It's a lot quieter when it's cold, isn't it? :lol3
I'm still thinking in terms of HT arcing, from the type of sound it is...
Id be looking for the simple things first up. Suggest a hands on inspection of your crash bars to rule out a crack or break. If a stethoscope is not available improvise with a large and long screwdriver to try and locate where the noise is emanating from. Next , off with the valve cover to see if anything obvious as other posters have suggested, ie missing or loose locknut etc. You mention suspect arcing, makes me think a loose spark plug rocking around in it's hole. Good luck and good hunting. :*sip*
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The Community Healing Network is an organization dedicated to helping Black people overcome the negative messages and stereotypes they encounter in this culture. Don Merrill talks with CHN President, Ms. Enola Aird about the motivations, focus and plans of CHN to help make the world better for Black people and everybody.
Join me in a delightful conversation with Walter Mosley on Thursday May 16, 2013 from 800AM-8: 30AM to discuss his latest book Little Green and the return of Easy Rollins! Walter Mosley is a New York City-based author, whose 37+ book literary career goes back to 1990′s Devil in a Blue Dress. That novel kicked off a series revolving around detective Ezekiel "Easy" Rawlins — a Black resident of the Watts section of Los Angeles, whose continuing story begins in 1948, and (with the May 2013 release of his 12th story, Little Green) has progressed to 1967. Mosley also created the character of ex-convict Socrates Fortlow, the modern-day protagonist of Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, and two other novels. Both Rawlins and Fortlow were adapted for the screen in the 1990s.
Carrie Mae Weems: Three Decades of Photography and Video - exhibit at Portland Art Museum ends on Sunday May 19, 2013
At the February 3 opening lecture for Carrie Mae Weems: Three Decades of Photography and Video, internationally noted contemporary artist Carrie Mae Weems reflected on some of the major themes in her thought-provoking photographic and video work, including an overarching commitment to promote justice as it relates to race, gender, and class issues.
Born and raised in Portland, Ore., Carrie Mae Weems is internationally recognized for her powerful photography-based art that investigates issues of race, gender, and societal class.
Sixty five years ago, the Columbia River flooded into the largest public housing project in the U-S at the time, leaving 18,500 people homeless, a large number of whom were black. The event changed race relations in Portland forever.
On Friday May 24th, from 8 am to noon, KBOO presented a special program on the Vanport flood and racism in Portland, sixty five years later.
We featured historians and archived audio, as well as a discussion led by PSU professor and activist Walidah Imarisha asking 'Why are there so few black people in Oregon'.
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Join Peter Cervantes-Gautschi, Executive Director of Enlace and I for an informative conversation regarding Enlace campaign on private prison divestment. Enlace is a strategic alliance of low-wage worker centers, unions, and community organizations in Mexico and in the U.S. We partner with our member organizations in international campaigns to motivate abusive multi-sector transnational corporations to treat workers and communities with dignity and respect. Enlace uses an integrated approach to organizing, creating unique campaign strategies while developing systems strengthening organizations internally. Our strategies often cross industrial and sector lines for reasons relating to both workforce development and campaign strategy.
Revolutionary activist, organizer and author Ahjamu Umi spoke at the Law and Disorder Conference at Portland State University earlier in May. Ahjamu Umi is an organizer for the All African Peoples' Revolutionary Party. He is also part of the Blazing Arrow Organization, which was formed to organize poor and people of color communities in Portland to resist gentrification and police violence.
Iven Hale hosts this edition of the Old Mole which discusses the political threats to Social Security, the Oregon prison system, a South African fighter against apartheid, and a new film about Jackie Robinson. Below are links to individual segments of the show. Or use the playbutton to hear the whole show including music.
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You may have heard a lot of talk about Idaho recently, and it's no small potatoes. Idaho's governor, C.L. "Butch" Otter, recently signed into law a controversial anti-whistleblower "ag-gag" bill that punishes those who expose abusive conditions on factory farms. Though Governor Otter claims this law will keep agriculture producers "secure in their property," we, and countless others concerned about the welfare of animals, are extremely concerned about the greater implications of ag-gag.
In passing this bill, Idaho became the seventh state to enact an ag-gag law. By effectively closing out journalists, investigators, and even the general public from animal production facilities, the agribusiness industry can continue to keep consumers in the dark about where their food is coming from.
We have seen countless instances of abuse on industrial farms, including the recent case of a Wisconsin dairy farm that produces cheese for the frozen pizza brand DiGiorno. Undercover footage taken by Mercy For Animals caught workers at this farm viciously kicking, stabbing, beating, and dragging cows, and the footage led to 11 charges of criminal animal cruelty. Without such footage, we may never have known of these horrors, and because of ag-gag laws, we may never learn of countless other, similar instances.
Sadly, these bills are popping up everywhere, and we're up against a mighty opponent. We, and the animals, need your help to make sure that no more of these bills, or any others that imperil the lives of animals, pass into law.
For the animals, for the safety of our nation's food supply, and for the health of you and your family, please stand with us today.
You French LIKE horse meat. Enough said.
Well, then Nancy you seem to know everything about us. And by the way, I am not French.
Jennifer - take a pill and chill - I can barely follow your train of thought....all humans, in all countries are doing horrible things to animals - can we agree on that much?
My family lives in Germany and they do not eat horse meat and my grandpa lived in France and he did not eat horse meat. So it's like here...I do not eat pigs but a lot of people do. Your comment made you sound ignorant.
Why is it OK to eat other animals but not horses? I don't advocate killing ANY living creature for food, so one is not any better than another. At the very least, the creatures raised to be slaughtered for food should not have to endure inhumane treatment, be they horses, cattle, snails or frogs!
And about "eating horse meat" here is the truth: other than some very few Eastern European countries (e.g. Hungary), most of us do not want to eat horse meat. It is to us just as shocking as it is to you (think dog/cat). Some few big companies decided to do that without sharing this with the consumer. So you bought pork sausages or beef hamburger meat and in reality there was a certain percentage of horse meat inside. Due to our regular inspections, the truth came out and the media was informed. I can't express how shocked we were to find out that e.g. the salami we had bought for years had horse meat in it. Further investigations followed. People were trying to memorize which products contained horse and avoid them desperately. And there were many. So many that at some point we felt helpless. None of us in Western Europe is into it, trust me. This is why we are vigorously working on laws that
force the producers to say what's inside the product (and also if it's genetically engineered or not -another thing we Europeans don't like). We have to do our "homework" over there and make our politicians understand what we want. And you have to take care of what is going on here! Please, do not turn a blind eye on animals.
To Jennifer...good comments and I think in many ways your country is way ahead of the US for addressing many environment issues. I only wish we could do the same but our elected Officials do what works for them first and it is so frustrating but that being said I sign as many petitions that I can to force them to get the picture of what mainstream people in all walks of life want .
Thank you for your kind words, Jean. I think signing petitions is crucial, since most politicians really care about being re-elected, so keep up the good work! We need any signature in this fight. Maybe one day things will change for the better and we will be able to offer our kids a better world.
Jennifer I lived in a county that had a horse processing plant, they had to send it over sears, don't know where, locally there were horses being stolen to sell to this plant. Animals all over the world should be better treated in these places and everywhere.
To Alan: wherever this plant was, in most countries of the European Community eating horse meat is forbidden (small exceptions). This was probably the reason why they could only send the meat overseas. Slaughtering animals is unfortunately not forbidden by law (cows, chicken, horses, turkeys etc.) At least they were not allowed to sell it legally to the stores there. The fact that the animals were stolen though is a different story and needs to be addressed. It is a crime by any law and those responsible will have to face fines or other punishment. (I guess you were working in one of the new EU-joining countries - just a thought since they are still trying to change their laws according to what is expected from them in the "European Government" and are at the same time challenged by a higher crime rate.) I know I am asking for a lot, but if you have any pictures, evidence etc. feel free to send it to the press of one of the old EU countries (as France, Germany, GB -not an EU country but they will show it, Netherlands etc.). You can remain anonymous if you want to. Again, while we may not be able to stop the slaughter (as we can't stop other animals from being slaughtered either), people can organize protests, boycotts or simply block the entrances to those places. As long as we know where they are....


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Science Is Real Close to Developing Squid-like Color Changing Skin From Synthetic Materials
Nobody suspects a thing!
Some squids, octopuses, and other cephalopods are able to camouflage their bodies underwater by changing the color and texture of their skin, which is probably how they're able to so successfully infiltrate our society and integrate themselves into human families as our octodads. But according to new research from MIT, humans are pretty close to creating our own version of cephalopod skin.Read More


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John Livingood is the son of Captain William C. Livingood, Sr., U.S. Navy Retired, now deceased. Captain Livingood, referred to as Doc Livingood in the book, had collected poems in 1943 during three combat tours in the South Pacific while a flight surgeon with a U. S. Marine fighter squadron, VMF-213, also known as the Hell Hawks. Doc livingood maintained extensive documents and records during these tours and many are recreated at VMF-213.com.
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The qualification is achieved via collection of evidence as proof of competence; evidence can be in a variety of forms.
Assessment is carried out in the workplace, by appointment, for one hour every month with a qualified assessor.
Apprenticeships are free and flexible:
- Training is tailored to the employer and the individual learner.
- Staff will be qualified to a nationally recognised standard.
- The NVQ promotes confident, capable and flexible employees with higher levels of skill and competence, able to take responsibility for their own actions.
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The first thing you notice about Sucheta Pal, is the explosion of eye-popping colours—a neon t-back, fuschia and purple kicks, aquamarine eyeliner. The vigorous Zumba class she just taught doesn't seem to have tired her out one bit. Zumbastic, don't you think?
Zumba, a dance form turned exercise routine, has a tendency to draw out the more colourful side of people. Sucheta, for instance, is an electronic engineer, who worked as a business analyst for five years. She switched professions at 26, the age when people switch jobs. As she tells me, ''I quit my job to pursue dancing, and randomly came across Zumba. I found that unlike other workouts, this was much more fun. It's a fitness form where you don't judge anyone by their size. Your instructor smiles at you; and it encourages you to dance even more! This is a way better experience than just running a treadmill everyday whilst watching TV, something that bores you, after a point".
Her destiny took her to the US where she was a Zumba trainer for three years. And now she's a cerified trainer for Zumba, Aqua Zumba, Zumba Gold, Zumba Toning, Zumba Sentao and Zumba Step. Sucheta tells me that she's the only ZES (Zumba Education Specialist), or Master trainer from India, among the 140 all over the world at Zumba Fitness LLC. As a ZES, Sucheta travels all over the globe, training and licensing people to teach Zumba. But perhaps, more exciting is her XBOX 360 avataar. You can actually do the zumba with Sucheta, in the privacy of your own home.
Of course, she loves dancing, but the job is undeniably taxing. So, how does she manage her personal life? ''It's exhausting when you're training continuously. I barely get time to spend with my husband. In fact, he has joined a Facebook group of 'Zumba neglected husbands'. But, when it really matters, he's been my hugest support, especially during the last for years when I officially became a Zumba instructor"
According to her, more and more women are taking up Zumba, to tone their bodies and also as a career option. When a woman crosses 30, her body tends to slow down. Zumba is just the motivation to keep your body energised. ''Zumba works holistically, for people of every age and body type,'' Sucheta tells me.
"Aqua Zumba is in more demand than ground Zumba," says Sucheta. "This is because people don't sweat in water. Aqua Zumba is where two forces—gravity and buoyancy—act on you without tiring you out while dancing. People working out in water will not feel exausted until they get out. This makes them want to work out more and they shed calories more easily. Also, it's way more fun!" says Sucheta.
Above: A class of Aqua Zumba with trainer Sanjeev Khiara of 'Zumba with Illumination' in a 90 minute pool party. Image Credit: Sanjeev Khiara
What's your Zumba Quotient?
Of the many forms of zumba, the four listed below are by far the most popular.
Aqua Zumba: A 'pool party' where the zumba formula meets traditional aqua techniques. Sheds calories faster than any zumba technique.
Zumba Toning: Zumba done with weights, and of course music. It helps in body sculpting and muscle strenghtening.
Zumba Sentao: Zumba done with chair. Choreographed carefully, this routine is more intense and involves lot of inner strength and focus.
Zumba Step: This workout regime focuses on the lower body and strengthens your legs and gluteal muscles. It uses the techinques of step aerobics and a special platform.


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BEIRUT, Lebanon--A European Baptist Federation delegation held rare meetings with two of Lebanon's most powerful political leaders.
The delegation met with Emile Lahoud, the president of Lebanon and a Maronite Christian, at the presidential palace. The same day the group met with Rafic Hariri, the nation's prime minister and a Sunni Muslim, in his home.
Meeting last week in Beirut in its annual session, the EBF includes Baptist unions in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa.
The prime minister told Baptists the "Iraqi war is not between Christians and Muslims."
The conflict rather is between those who want democracy and those who want things to stay as they are, Hariri said from his luxurious home in West Beirut.
Hariri said the United States "made a fatal mistake" by dismissing the Iraqi army, police and intelligence service, assuming they were all loyal to Saddam Hussein.
He said Christians outside of Lebanon "have huge obligations" for the situation in the Middle East," explaining, "There is a campaign against Muslims by saying they cause terrorism."
"In the dark ages, Christianity was encouraging terrorism through the crusades," Hariri said. "Hitler was a Christian."
One Baptist European murmured disagreement, and Hariri replied that Hitler was a member of the Christian church.
"I'm a Muslim, born a Muslim," he said. "I understand it as a religion of tolerance."
Hariri said, "It is a matter of belief that this country is for Christians and Muslims."
Driving through Beirut to the meeting, past Islamic worshippers at prayer and a few badly shelled buildings, Nabil Costa, a leader of the Baptist convention of Lebanon, described his nation as a "country of ghosts."
Costa credited Hariri for helping to rebuild downtown Beirut following the nation's 15-year civil war, which claimed more than 100,000 lives.
Earlier in the day, Costa shared with his passengers that Muslims and Christians in Lebanon were very upset about the statement by a prominent Baptist preacher in 2002 that Muhammad was a "demon-possessed pedophile," a comment that roiled through the Arab and Islamic world.
"Christians here were astonished by the statement, especially since Lebanon has a diversity of religion, and Lebanese respect one another," Costa said.
Lebanon has some 4 million people with 19 officially recognized religious groups and a commitment to religious freedom.
According to a country profile about Lebanon on the United State's Department of State's Web site, the "unwritten 'National Pact' of 1943 stipulates that the president, the prime minister, and the speaker of parliament be a Maronite Christian, a Sunni Muslim, and a Shi'a Muslim respectively. The 1989 Taif Accord, which ended the country's 15-year civil war, reaffirmed this arrangement."
Lebanese President Emile Lahoud welcomed the same delegation into his office in the presidential palace in East Beirut.
Sitting behind an abundant spread of yellow roses, Lahoud said Beirut is the "gateway to the Middle East."
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"Whoever wants to pray the way he wants can do it," the president said. "Baptists are doing a lot for Lebanon."
Ghassan Khalaf, president of the Convention of the Evangelical Baptist Churches of Lebanon, told Lahoud, "We are proud of our president as an ethical and moral man."
In addition to Costa and Khalaf, seven other Baptists attended the two meetings. They included EBF president Billy Taranger; General Secretary-elect Tony Peck; outgoing General Secretary Theo Angelov; and Denton Lotz, head of the Baptist World Alliance.
Samuel Kharrat, a Lebanese pastor, also was present.
After leaving the meeting, Costa, the director for the Lebanese Society for Education and Social Development, called the meeting a "very good one."
"I want the president to remember that there are Baptists in Lebanon, not only evangelicals," said Costa. "I want to thank him for remembering this minority."
"We prayed for the president," Costa said. "What could be better?"
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