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Terquem wrote:
Combat is the only portion of the game where attack actions have meaning, so yes it's the only portion where it's broken. But that doesn't mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that it's somehow NOT broken.
bugleyman wrote:
Only if yellow and blue made grey instead of green in combat.
Hunters are awesome. Ranger spells are great. I don't think anyone in the thread is disputing that.
On the other hand, beastmaster (or "seeing eye dog ranger" as I will continue to refer to it) is objectively broken. No amount of playing will alter that fact. Beastmaster follows the formula that 1 + 1 = 1. Combining a ranger with an animal companion should result in something MORE than the two separately, but instead it results in one of them being less. Therefore it's broken.
BigNorseWolf wrote:
This is another one of the major themes of the show, in my opinion.
The people in Alexandria all have "skills" that make them "valuable." Like, "my skills hold you hostage so I can act with impunity." It's like they literally played that philosophy game where you choose who you think you'd need in the apocalypse and have to shoot the people who don't make the cut. The downside of which is, not only are you all murderers now, but now you're stuck with these people, however terrible they might be. How do you hold someone accountable who knows you need them enough that their skills trump someone else's life?
Most of the people in Rick's group, on the other hand, were just regular Joes thrown together by circumstance. Only a couple of them were people of any level of "importance" in the old world (cops, veterinarian, army guy). The rest of them were sort of nobody. A pizza delivery guy (who hasn't died yet), a battered wife (who hasn't died yet), a kid (who hasn't died yet), a redneck bum (who hasn't died yet), and a handful of others who were essentially no one before are now all bad-asses. They're all valued because of who they are on the inside, what they're willing to do for the group, and their absolute trustworthiness.
This is especially brought to light when people play the game with Daryl of trying to guess what he "was" before the apocalypse. Daryl is a superhero these days, and the joke is before he was nobody. In that philosophy game though, most of these people wouldn't have made it into the bunker, and the irony is now they're the hope of survival for the ones that have been living in said bunker.
One of these groups values people for the wrong reasons. I think that's why Deanna wants Rick around. I think she truly is a good judge of character and motive, and wants Rick to help her clean house. Then the worst that can happen from her perspective is she gets rid of some of her own bad eggs, can point blame and keep her hands clean publically. Best case scenario is the Alexandrians accept Rick as "the law" (which he basically is, complete with legitimacy bestowed by Deanna) and everyone accepts his judgment and moves forward.
Pan wrote:
This new storyline seems to be about facing the past and coming to grips with what has happened.
Yes but not as much for Rick & Co. The Alexandrians are living in complete denial of what has happened, hunkered down in their post-apocalyptic mansions baking cookies. Sasha nails the episode when she says it's "not real." They are champagne survivors, faking their way through the end of the world. Literally their only accomplishment is the wall. They are the ones who really need to come to grips, much more than Rick's group. Rick's group is currently struggling with trying to coexist with people who haven't hurt them yet, but when they do get hurt, the façade will fall (like Glenn vs. what's his name). Something will happen to test their fragile relationship, and if the Alexandrians try to sit in judgment old-world style, they're going to get their butts kicked fast.
Ironically the best thing that can happen to Alexandria is for it to get attacked, because if the two groups don't find a common enemy, they're going to go at each other.
Andrew Turner wrote:
the audience can't hear him silently reassuring himself
I think you're right. If it was meant to be threatening (even as a silent threat to reassure himself), he would have put his hand on his revolver. He picks the other one to visually display the fact that he's doubling--something he hasn't had to do in a long time. None of them have. They're all totally honest with each other (one of the main themes of the whole show). Now they're thrust into a situation where they have to pretend not to be fubar (ie: lying to everyone all day) and that can't last long.
A couple random things that stuck out to me in the last episode were:
Daryl's really not going to be happy with Carol if he finds out the level of psychological abuse she leveled at that kid.
The closing scene with Rick at the wall was a pretty strong callback to him being trapped in the train car. They're f'ing with the wrong people!
Also did anyone else notice the group enjoys killing zombies these days?
TheRavyn wrote:
What 5e has done is very deliberately establish damage archetypes and utility archetypes. It's pretty obvious which is which when you read through them. The damage dealers all do approximately 2X damage, while the utility specs do X damage plus cool stuff.
I have few problems with "rangers" as a class... the problem for me is the "beast master" archetype. It's important to be specific about that. Talking about "classes" doesn't mean much when each "class" is actually two or three different things (or more).
Hunters are excellent damage dealers. Pets are great utility. The problem is, it doesn't make any sense that just because a ranger gains a pet (both of whom would be perfectly capable of their own actions if each were alone) he or the pet suddenly loses the ability to function in combat. That's nonsense, and the design should have taken that into account.
What the design tries to do is make Beast master the utility option and Hunter the damage option, but the inherent utility of the pet does not outweigh the severe dissociation of the ranger or pet losing capability by being partnered together. What they should have done was the opposite. Make BM the damage option, give it fewer or less powerful abilities to offset the pet's inherent utility, and make Hunter the utility option, focusing on skills and such.
As it stands, it's too much work to reinvent the Hunter, but it's really easy to just say the BM's pet gets its own action. And having the ranger class be the only one with two damage options is a small price to pay to gain a functional, non-broken pet option (and by that I mean each part does not lose its inherent functionality when joined together).
Jester David wrote:
Doubling your damage is pretty much what damage oriented archetypes do. Barbarian Frenzy: get an extra attack. Warrior Maneuvers: get maneuvers that add attacks plus 1d8. Hunter: get an extra attack or extra 1d8.
thenovalord wrote:
Player in our group has got his beast ranger to 8th. He seems happy with his PC. Of course that based on really playing not just looking at numbers, that's not what 5th is about
It's generally safe to not look at the numbers in 5e because in terms of damage everyone who chooses an obviously damage-oriented spec is really really close. It's one thing I love about 5e. But even without thinking about math, it's apparent Beast Master is broken. Sacrifice my attack to let my pet attack? No freaking way. I don't need math to know that's really bad.
Also, the Beast Master's pet's action uses up the ranger's action. That is just plain stupid. I mean, I know pets are a big problem, but this is almost as bad as Trailblazer's pet "fix" (which is, your pet is the GM's NPC). I could understand if they had made it use a bonus action, but even that has issues (like, what if you have TWF?).
Pets should have their own attack action. Call it a "pet action" and classify it as the same type of action as the rogue's cunning action--it's just extra. It brings their damage up to par, doesn't interefere with classic ranger TWF, and just makes sense since the pet is it's own entity. So what if one spec out of ~30 screws with action economy.
Admittedly that gives rangers two "damage dealer" options, but why they didn't make Beast Master the damage option in the first place, I can't imagine.
Where do they go. Well, the first 2 minutes of the show are online. They're going to Richmond. Noah was going there with Beth. Good idea? Dunno. Tribute to Beth, sure. Anywhere else to go, not specifically. But when they get there (if they get there) they will be able to spit on D.C.
Morgan needs to catch up, hopefully before they take off.
Grief turns to rage. I foresee many zombies dying tonight.
Sissyl wrote:
As you say. For rules lawyers. I find the idea ridiculous and would not agree to such a thing. Much better to deal with issues after at all time and be prepared to do a rollback or reinstatement then. The truly toxic part is that it assigns game effects to rules whining. Blah. Double blah.
Since it is a roleplaying game, even rules lawyers should be roleplaying, and if they're rules-lawyering instead, technically they're breaking the rules. I don't think it's inappropriate to have a mechanical penalty for doing so (or a mechanical bonus for doing the opposite, like 5e's inspiration).
Although I would ammend the rule slightly to make it more generally appropriate: No rules disputes during combat.
DaveMage wrote:
Before we start clamoring for Pathfinder 2 (no thanks), let's see what Pathfinder Unchained looks like. That might do what some people want from Pathfinder 2. Therefore, we may all win. :)
It might.
MMCJawa wrote:
Maybe. But how backwards compatible? No conversion necessary? Minimal conversion? Current Pathfinder content converts to 5e fairly easily. Is that good enough?
Jester David wrote:
Pathfinder 2 is in an unenviable position. I can't try and be simple, because that's what D&D is doing. So it has to try and capture the more tactical players and optimizes who feel unsatisfied by 5e. But neither can they go the route of 4e, with too much optimization, dissociative mechanics. They need to do something firmly Pathfinder. I have faith in Paizo, but I'm uncertain they can satisfactorily pull off a Pathfinder Revised any time soon
I wholeheartedly disagree.
If Paizo put out a Pathfinder 2 of the same complexity level as 5e, I think people would embrace it eagerly and thankfully. Maybe not tomorrow, but maybe a year or two or so from now. BlackDiamond is right--5e is beautiful, but it's the IP edition. WOTC has pretty much said as much, and has shown as much in dragging their feet on providing an OGL that would make supporting the edition possible. If Paizo published a very similar product, they would have something just as beautiful, but with the support of Paizo and the 3pp community behind it.
It's tempting to think 5e puts a Pathfinder 2 on the ropes, but I think it's deceptive. I don't think Paizo needs to feel constrained by the direction 5e has gone in terms of design in the slightest. If anything, they should feel liberated. After all, they've proven they can beat WOTC at their own game before. 5e has shown that people are willing (and eager) to embrace a lighter ruleset. The time may come when Paizo (technically) follows suit, but does it right.
I'm not saying that's what they *should* do. I'm just saying they could. I don't think 5e takes away any options from them.
Quark Blast wrote:
More wasted tax dollars does not a persuasive argument make.
This presumes it would be wasted.
I think it's self-evident it wouldn't be.
Fergurg wrote:
What is meant by "for it's own sake" is "for the sake of learning."
I would have thought that would also be self-evident.
Quark Blast wrote:
I submit that some people are unable to capitalize on a college education.
I won't argue with that. But they won't qualify. There are grade requirements.
Hudax's hand waving allusions to Plato aside (Yes, Plato! That scion of Antiquities who promoted education for men, and only men, and upper class men at that - LOL ;D with Tears).
It was ancient Greece--a patriarchal slave-based economy. What did you expect him to think?
Thankfully Plato's treatise on "Rich White Dudes" did not stand the test of time.
It is when you attribute concepts to Plato that aren't there in the least.
I didn't attribute anything to anyone. You're adding your own subtext to my words.
And as MMCJawa so helpfully points out, we have in effect already performed the educate everybody experiment and it hasn't shown obvious positive benefits on the whole.
I think MMCJawa meant all the concerns people have in this thread that "might" happen, already happened a long time ago. So the worry is over nothing. 4 year degrees are already devalued, and free 2 year degrees would be "blue on black."
Fergurg wrote:
As for education being an end to itself, that is a ridiculous premise - education for the purpose of education is worthless.
Wish someone had told me that when I was reading all that Plato and Shakespeare.
Damn them! How dare they suggest that thinking is worthwhile!
Quark Blast wrote:
You just pulled the equivalent of a Godwin, except science flavored.
Well done!
LazarX wrote:
Exactly. It makes as much sense to oppose free community college as it does to oppose the free public education we already have.
To the arguments:
1) A rising tide raises all ships. There is nothing to lose from everyone becoming smarter and better educated. I mean, what if we create a smarter, better educated nation for nothing? It's a ridiculous argument because education is an end in itself.
Scientific research pays off 2 to 5 times on the money invested, on average. Research is never wasted. Research and education are the same in this regard. Education is never wasted. Money allocated to education will pay society back well beyond what was invested.
The disconnect here is the inability to wait for the payoff. Granted, it would take many years. But the hallmark of successful people is their ability to delay gratification. If as a nation we decide we want instant gratification, on this or any other investment, then as a nation we will fail.
And ultimately if "everyone" has a CC degree, and that means the only job you can find is road construction, then maybe one of those higher educated people will come up with a better way to fix roads, or even a better way to build them, or something so fantastic it would eliminate the need for roads entirely. That may look like loss of value on your degree, but it's actually the opposite. That's the return on investment. Making the world better.
And also ultimately, maintaining the quality and competitive value of one's education is one's own responsibility. There's a reason why doctors and others with professional bodies of knowledge constantly have to do continuing education. To keep up. If more people getting CC degrees forces you to keep up or fall behind, so be it. That's your choice to make. And since the thing that would be holding you back is FREE, it's a pretty easy choice!
2) Right now, you pay for other people's children to do a lot of things. Go to the ER. Collect unemployment. Collect disability. Collect social security (everyone is someone's child regardless of age). Drive on public roads, perhaps in public transportation. Go to the library. Go to high school. What's two more years? Nothing. And regardless of precisely where the tax money comes from, you would be paying for it somehow, one way or another, unless you stop paying taxes.
This is the price you pay for living in a nation that invests in society, even to the low extent that the U.S. does.
Quark Blast wrote:
There's splitting the player base at the source, and there's having an "official" game with lots of supplementary options--even if those options are complete games in and of themselves. There's nothing detrimental to the hobby or the industry about providing people with the material to cherry-pick for their houserules. But that's very different than if PF or D&D decided to try to support two different versions of the same game, or tried to support multiple settings.
Rynjin wrote:
Agreed. The mere suggestion that her death was just a vehicle to forward Daryl's story is one of the more offensive and brain-dead things I've read in a while. Way to try to shift the spotlight away from Beth where it belongs and was intended to be. That makes me more angry than her death did.
And sloppy? Seriously? It was a death we should have all seen coming since the Beth/Daryl episode in season 4 where they practically tell us in so many words that she's going to die. And it was still a complete and total shock. Right up to the split second where your arms go up in the air to cheer when she tries to stab Dawn and then... bam. With your arms still in the air. Sloppy? They had us on a line for a year right up until the last second.
That is absolute perfect writing.
Kalshane wrote:
On reflection it seems I misremembered part of the discussion on this due to it being how my current game is working with a multiclass wizard/rogue. The discussion was about throwing weapons and sharpshooter. I thought there was talk of cantrips as well, but apparently I imagined it. That's what I get for not checking.
But the logic is still sound. If a 10 wizard/ 1 rogue can do 3d8 with a cantrip, there's no way he would choose to use any weapon plus 1d6 as an action. Just as a 10 fighter/ 1 wizard would never use a cantrip as an action if it didn't scale. Why multiclass to gain a permanently inviable option? That's why cantrips scale, and why my group's wizard gets sneak attack. I'm not sure if it's intended, but I strongly suspect that it is.
Southeast Jerome wrote:
However, a 10th level Wizard can't take one level of Rogue and immediately get to deal a 5d6 sneak attack
No, but he can add 1d6 sneak attack dmg to any cantrip or spell that has an attack roll. Spells and cantrips count as weapons if they have an attack roll. (There was a question a while back about whether casters could benefit from the sharpshooter feat, and the answer is yes for the same reason.)
Laurefindel wrote:
The rest is just a skin.
Beyond the core mechanics, it's all skin.
It's trivially easy to justify a rule based on verisimilitude. Doing so doesn't make it a good design decision. And the opposite is also true. It's trivially easy to criticize a rule based on verisimilitude as well.
That's why it's so easy to argue about rules. Anyone can come up with reasons why this or that should or shouldn't be.
I think the only good way to judge a rule is in a metagame sense. If it's a good rule, you can justify it literally however you want, and it will still be a good rule. If it's not, it doesn't matter how you justify it, because no amount of justification will make it good.
This is one of very few rules I find to be just plain wrong. Padded armor is just a quilted shirt. Wearing it wouldn't make you look like a tick that's about to pop.
If it's thick and bulky and heavy enough to warrant disadvantage, it should also give much more than 1 AC. As it is, there should be no penalty.
Kthulhu wrote:
"Is breathing evil?"
Fake Healer wrote:
The actual rules surrounding when they should be used seems to be mostly "when the DM determines you have one". It doesn't clearly define when to use them though.
Any time you roll a d20 you have an opportunity to roleplay to gain advantage. The rule makes the whole game reward roleplaying.
Instead of spending their time searching through the books looking for bonuses, players will be spending their time imagining what they can do tactically/in-character to gain advantage. You're in the game instead of in the rules.
It's just simply a brilliant mechanic and if you're leaving it out, 5e is going to be just another ruleset. If you make the small effort to use it thought, the game comes alive.
I would do augury right away, mainly as a teaching tool and plot hook. Maybe give it 1 charge a day per level, plus whatever you deem necessary for her to know using the sword as a narrative tool.
Light could be level 2. Something for the first level up that's visually dramatic and lets her put the torch away.
The power level is high for the level, but the effects are not "power" effects, so personally I don't feel it matters.
Vincent Takeda wrote:
I'm glad they havent meta'd. Playing what they want to play instead of trying to form a party thats ideally suited to the type of fights they're expecting to see.
But they did. The cleric meta'd that he'd be the healbot, and everyone else meta'd that there would be a healbot.
It's time to teach your players how to be self-sufficient instead of relying on this guy to save their butts every single combat round.
Job one as others said is don't roll HP! Or if you insist on it, be prepared to fix it when it inevitably breaks characters. Let them retcon their HP to average, which will probably boost their health by 150%, which will help a lot.
It's much, MUCH better to never take damage than it is to heal damage. What is preventing the ranged players from maintaining range? Is the ranger casting entangle ever? Does the cleric ever cast any buffs? Is the cleric ending the day with spells uncast (wasted)? If there is a spell the cleric can cast that mitigates potential damage, that is inherently better than casting a heal after the fact.
Read this: a player's guide to healing in TOZ's profile. And have your players read it.
If all else fails, buff the heck out of channel's heal. Double it, or give it 1d6 per level. Who cares. Your healer's probably been getting shafted for years. This will have a few effects. One, your cleric will wait until it's effect won't overheal too much, and will consequently be doing other things. Two, it's really underpowered anyway (channel specifically and healing in general). Three, the party will start to realize, as they sit there with falling health for a few rounds, that maybe there are things they could be doing to keep themselves alive until the huge heal comes.
boring7 wrote:
Finally, any blade worth knowing is a blade worth having arguments with. You don't want to overdo talking/personality weapons, but a tool that's granted by the god(dess) and grows in divine power as the PC grows in divine power is a cheap and easy conduit for divine guidance.
Yeah. That's better than my magic 8 ball from the other thread. Put that into the sword instead. Maybe immediately. The sword could give her very limited guidance right away, like whispering that it needs the blood of evil-doers to "recover" or something.
RumpinRufus wrote:
Agreed. Just plan out the first few levels with things like augury and light (and obviously being a magic weapon). Those will really help her adventure without adding much to character power.
I don't think it's been made clear if the GM fiat was necessary because the fight was hopeless from the start, or because the party was one PC short, or because the party was trapped by the OP. If GM intervention was necessary because of the OP's actions, the paladin was right to seek retribution, and was probably right anyway simply because of the strong perception of betrayal.
The paladin was wrong not to heal the OP, who registers as indeterminate to detect evil. The OP was in need of healing, and the paladin should have helped. Unless he saw the OP as an enemy, in which case he should never have agreed to be in the same party in the first place. Either way, he was in the wrong on that note. (That said, the question of whether the paladin should fall isn't remotely valid, and paladin baiting is extremely lame.)
I think caving in the entrance was played out of alignment. CN characters don't generally claim to act for the greater good. They do what they think is a good idea at the time ("good" as in self-interest), and have no strong inclination towards good or evil. If the OP's character is consistently going to act for the greater good, she needs to be CG, not CN.
The paladin owes the rogue a debt for poor treatment and for sparing his life. But the rogue owes the party a much larger debt for abandoning them and trapping them. I don't see how this group can move forward without a huge act of contrition, which the rogue wouldn't feel is owed unless her survival hinges on being in this group, or she recognizes the fact that the group has divine mandate.
In any event, the OP's character is the one that has to change, whether by re-rolling or by making recompense and changing alignment. The group probably isn't going to allow the rogue to continue with them otherwise.
Virellius wrote:
See, I think a group where people aren't afraid to fight if it makes sense im character makes for a very strong story, especially in a mature group. Usually, we are. I was looking for advice on in-game ways to deal with an unusual situation.
You're going to have to aim for an alignment change down the road. There's really no other way forward. If you're not going for a redemption story with this character, then you're just trolling the group.
Tacticslion wrote:
YOU! *crumples up fictitious red pen*
It's a good thing I'm not a teacher. Everyone would just get C's.
Kung Fu Joe wrote:
Your opinion on Brooks' writing doesn't mean he's wrong, or a bad writer. It just makes it your opinion. "Hacks" generally aren't extremely successful.
Martin on writing: "Three years from now when I'm sitting on 1,800 pages of manuscript with no end in sight, who the hell knows."
Does that sound like someone who knows where they're going? He may know who's on the throne at the end, but that's all he seems to know. He's like the student whose 5 page essays are 30 pages long and several months late. You want to fail them on principle.
I think the major contributer to the problem is the huge-sweeping-multi-book-single-story-epic just isn't a viable form. And I think a major contributer to that problem is, the writers who are inclined to pursue that form don't know when to stop. (Terry Brooks would call this a failure to outline, meaning if you don't know where you're going when you start, you'll just go on and on.)
Is anyone else hoping Rothfuss's 3rd book is the last one?
I'm not sure if the writers engaged in sweeping epics are megalomaniacs, or if it's a problem perpetuated by publishers wanting to indenture writers, or if stand-alone books don't sell as well, or if writers don't want to do them as much. But I'm really starting to not want to see any more series. At all. It's to the point where I cringe whenever I see something new and see it's "book 1 of who the hell knows." There's a reason Netflix originals are released whole seasons at once. They understand that's how people want to consume entertainment. Serialized entertainment is becoming obsolete.
More stand-alones, please. There's something to be said for being able to tell a *whole* story in just one book. (That something is *thank you!*)
Simon Legrande wrote:
Instead I live in a world designed by lunatics and just have to make due the best I can.
You know what helps deal with that suffering? Art.
You know what helps art exist? When artists are expected to FINISH IT.
Darkrist wrote:
Wow. Having read this entire thread I can actually say I am shocked at the lengths both sides of this argument are going to to defend their "turf". Both sides are like "cargo cult" members building elaborate landing strips for the fruit of their argument to land on... And oh the sadness when the plane never lands. There is only human (and even stranger : Corporate) nature at work here. And any analysis by rabid fan-base or long suffering authors is probably time better spent reading or writing books. There is a rather large world of books (finished and unfinished....) and life experience outside these petty arguments. Enjoy!
Pick a side or hand in your bubblewrap jumpsuit!
Simon Legrande wrote:
Now since I know you're referring to the stupid "social contract" idea, it doesn't exist and the writer is in no way bound by it.
You mean the "stupid" idea that makes up the entirety of the thin veneer we know of as civilization? Yep, pretty stupid.
He can also choose to work at his own pace as he has been. At this point you've broken down to "I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT IT!" My kids are better than that.
You're missing the point because you're hung up on semantics and want to pretend I have an entitlement problem because I have an emotional investment in what I read and have reasonable expectations about publishing schedules and authors finishing stories. If you aren't emotionally invested in books, you must be reading some really lame books. If you don't expect capable (living, thinking) authors to finish what they started, then I simply don't know what to say to you.
The point is, it's not reasonable to expect an audience to pay attention to you for decades while you give them one or two years' worth of material every five years. Sooner or later they're gonna get impatient and either drop you or tell you to get busy and finish already.
If Rowling had dragged Harry Potter out for 20-30 years instead of a reasonable 10 years (GRRM at his current rate will clear 25 years), people would be pretty pissed off at her too. We'd still be waiting for Order of the Phoenix.
I started reading The Wheel of Time when the first book came out. I was always looking forward to the next, but I never felt that RJ OWED me anything. I looked forward to every new book, and read plenty of others in the meantime. Sure I was a little bummed when he died, but I was happy when I heard they brought someone in to finish it up. Even if it had never been finished, I would not have insisted that someone owes me something.
You like to move the goalposts, don't you?
RJ's books came out with reasonable frequency, about once a year or two years, despite being long. He also died before the series was completed. The publisher realized there was a such thing as a responsibility to the story, and found someone to finish it. Responsibility upheld. Social contract satisfied.
The reason you don't feel owed is because you aren't. RJ & Co fulfilled all their obligations and went above and beyond for their fans. GRRM isn't--he's pulling a Dark Tower.
James Sutter wrote:
To speak to the latter: I'm not saying that *all* fan entitlement is valid. If you expect a happy ending, or past tense, or whatever, and an author chooses to do something different, that's totally fine by me. The point is not that everyone gets exactly the book they want or expect, only that if your selling point is "check out this awesome story arc!" rather than "check out this great standalone book!", it's reasonable for fans to expect you to provide what you sold them on, rather than simply a portion of it.
A key part of being a good writer is being able to surprise the reader. Robert Frost said "No surprise for the writer, no surprise for the reader." Not getting what you expect is par for the course, and a story that doesn't surprise you is probably disappointing. (There are exceptions, as there are with anything.)
I don't equate surprise with betrayal. Surprise is a necessary element. Betrayal is what happens when the writer does not give a good faith effort, or crafts the end of a good story in such a disappointing way that there is no other adequate word to describe it. (Note that it has to be a good story with a bad ending. A story that starts off bad can't betray you, because you already know it's bad, and if you keep reading, that's on you.)
For instance, if we went crazy and decided to stop publishing Iron Gods at the third volume, a lot of people would be justifiably upset. The whole idea of an AP as we've promoted it is that it has a six-volume arc. Could it be continued beyond there? Sure, and we encourage people to do so, but we're always careful to wrap up the main arc in the volumes we publish. Even though each volume is a great adventure on its own, our advertising focuses on the larger story, and thus we have an obligation (in my mind) to provide it.
On the other hand, if you guys decided it would be best for the story to wrap it up sooner, that would be understandable. Key words being "wrap it up" and "best for the story."
The discussion of social contract is really just about recognizing *why* fans might feel a certain way, and admitting that there's validity to it, rather than just waving it all aside and claiming those readers (who are the exact people who supported you as an author) are somehow immature, which is what I feel some authors do.
Part of the contract is the writer has a responsibility not only to the audience but to the story itself. There is a responsibility to deliver on what was promised. But what is good for the story takes precedence. (And in cases as big as GoT, the good of the story takes precedence even over the writer's personal happiness. Hey, if you don't want that kind of responsibility, don't make the baby.)
While it's frustrating waiting 5 years between GRRM's books, I get that he's prioritizing the good of the story over my frustration. But he has a pacing problem. He could publish 400 pages every couple years instead, maintain the quality of work, and increase good will among his fans. But for some reason he chooses not to. And that's annoying, because we've walked down this road before, and I don't want to do it again. There's a point where it just gets to be Way Too Long and drawn out. People complained about this regarding Lost long before it ended, and Wheel of Time and Dark Tower. At some point, he just needs to stop rambling and get to the end. Preferably in his lifetime.
What should we as authors lose if we violate those expectations? Nothing but our good name with readers. But in this business, until you're as big as GRRM, your good name is all you have...
I don't believe anyone is ever too big to have any more than their good name. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. If the ending sucks, he won't be the guy who created one of the best series ever written, he'll be the guy who screwed up one of the best series ever written.


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Elisheba, also spelled Elisheva (/əˈlɪʃɨbə/; אֱלִישֶׁבַע 'Ělîšeḇa') in the Hebrew Bible was the wife of Aaron the ancestor of the Jewish high priests. [1]
According to later Jewish tradition, she is buried in the Tomb of the Matriarchs in Tiberias.[citation needed]
She is a daughter of Amminadab, and a sister of Nahshon, from the Tribe of Judah (Exodus 6:23). [2]
Exodus 6:23 "And Aaron took him Elisheba, the daughter of Amminadab, the sister of Nahshon, to wife; and she bare him Nadab and Abihu, Eleazar and Ithamar." American Standard Version 1901
In Hebrew names, Eli means "my God" and Sheba means "oath", so Eli-sheba is oath of my God or "God is her oath"[3] ("Sheva" is also the cardinal number seven in Hebrew.) [4]
The English name 'Elizabeth' is derived from Elisheba.

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Charleston Multifest co-founder sentenced
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Deborah S. Starks of Cross Lanes was sentenced to 21 months Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Charleston.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Deborah S. Starks of Cross Lanes was sentenced to 21 months Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Charleston.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Middlesboro Pastor Bill Poore is fighting leukemia, and community members are giving more than their time to show they care.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - Testimony continued in the trial of three people accused killing an elderly man in 2008.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - The Williamsburg Police Department now has jurisdiction in four eastern Kentucky counties.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - Governor Beshear signed a bill that's designed to make custody exchanges safer.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - The preliminary hearing for the three people accused of robbing a Middlesboro Mexican restaurant employee was held Tuesday.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - U.S. Rep. Harold "Hal" Rogers (KY-05) applauded an announcement by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner, Dr. Margaret "Peggy" Hamburg.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Communities Against Drug Addiction held their April meeting Tuesday in Prestonsburg.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - A Southern Kentucky man faces charges after a late night crash that claimed the life of a teenager.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - With Monday's attack in the middle of a large crowd, concerns are raised about the security for heavily attended events. This includes Eastern Kentucky's, Hillbilly Days Festival, which takes place later this week.
Posted: 04/17/2013 - More than 100 runners from kentucky took part in the Boston Marathon. Some of them witnessed the aftermath of the attacks first hand and are now coming back home this Tuesday.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - The Perry County Sheriff's Office arrested two people Tuesday afternoon after finding meth precursors and an indoor marijuana growth operation in Bonnyman.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - It's been talked about for years, and although not set in stone, Judge Executive Jim Ward says plans are still underway to bring a federal prison to Letcher County.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Budget cuts from Congress will soon reduce the number of free exhibitions on view each day at the Smithsonian Institution and will furlough U.S. Park Police officers who guard the nation's monuments.
Updated: 04/16/2013 - Sheriff Wood says deputies found the woman and a man dead when they entered the home.
Posted: 04/17/2013 - As dozens of Kentuckians head home from the Boston Marathon the governor asks everyone in the state to lower their flags to half-staff to honor the victims.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - A 29-year-old restaurant manager has been identified as one of three people killed in the bombing at the Boston Marathon.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - American Airlines is having computer problems that are causing widespread delays. Some passengers are stuck on planes while others can't make reservations.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - Also pleading guilty Monday was 18-year-old Dominick Deshaun Cunningham, who was charged with reckless homicide and tampering with physical evidence by complicity.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - President Barack Obama has ordered flags at the White House and all government buildings to be flown at half-staff in honor of the Boston Marathon explosion victims.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - President Barack Obama says he expects North Korea to make "more provocative moves" over the next several weeks.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - The Federal Bureau of Prisons is moving forward with plans to build a prison in Kentucky, commissioning an environmental impact study on two potential sites in the southeastern part of the state.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - On the day after federal agents raided the headquarters of Pilot Flying J, the truck stop business owned by the family of Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam and his brother, Cleveland Browns owner Jimmy Haslam, federal agents remained mum as to why they were there.
Posted: 04/16/2013 - An Alaska-based military policeman will serve 16 years in prison and will be dishonorably discharged for selling military secrets to a Russian agent, who was an undercover FBI agent.
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City Pages: What is the most cold, brutal thing you've ever said about somebody during a rap battle?
Ice Rod: I battled this one guy, and it was a two-part battle during the 2nd Annual Twin Cities Celebration of Hip Hop. This guy who was battling me had his kid, he was holding his kid on his shoulders, and then the next day he didn't have his kid anymore, and he was wearing a backpack. And I told him that he'd put his kid in the backpack. And another time, this one kid had an African medallion and Nike shoes, and during a previous battle he said he wore it because "all people were created equal." So I told him "if you think all people are created equal/then why are you wearing those shoes, 'cause they exploit people." That, and making fun of people for looking like a police officer.
CP: What's the most ridiculous beat you've ever rapped over?
IR: Well, I'll rap over everything. Like, when I listen to the radio, maybe the most ridiculous beat would be commercials. Country music, the news, I'll rap over everything.
CP: What would you say is the difference between "ironic" and just funny?
IR: Well, I think being funny kind of covers a lot more things than being ironic, and "ironic" doesn't always have to mean "funny." Irony can be tragic or sad or journalism, referencing things that are so close to how they really are, recounting and being historical. Being funny has a different set of things that you do in music, maybe if you're being ironic you're ironic by your style, or your content, and you're kind of referencing something else. You're not really adding anything to it that's your own. But if you're being funny, you're doing something completely out of the blue and create your own things. Taking your own personal observations on society and putting a twist on it.
CP: Have you ever gotten any criticism or grief for being a humor-minded rapper? With a mullet?
IR: Yeah, I think it's very tricky, because I'm trying to be taken as a serious rapper, but I have a fun sense of personality. But I'm not making fun of rap. Sometimes that's misunderstood. I think most people get it at this point, that most people understand that I'm really good at rapping and that I'm a fun person, but I think some people still maybe take rap music too seriously and I don't fit into that category. But I don't want to identify myself with characters like Malibu's Most Wanted. For me to be silly, and be white and rap, so many people do that and I feel like I have to go further than that and make my new music more personal, more sexualized, more creative, and more political, too. That's how to stand out as a serious rapper whos fun, without making fun of rap.
CP: Kanye or 50?
IR: Kanye. Hes from Chicago.
CP: Midwest!
IR: Yeah.
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This view looks toward Rhea's north polar region, where icy fractures slither away toward the south.
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The image was taken in visible light with the Cassini spacecraft narrow-angle camera on Dec. 4, 2006 at a distance of approximately 773,000 kilometers (480,000 miles) from Rhea and at a Sun-Rhea-spacecraft, or phase, angle of 105 degrees. Image scale is 5 kilometers (3 miles) per pixel.


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John 15:12-14 (NLT)
This is my commandment: Love each other in the same way I have loved you. There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends. You are my friends if you do what I command.
I hate cancer. I mean as much as it is humanly possible to loathe something I do this with all that is within me. It is my mission and goal in life to cram cancer right back down the devil's throat. I fully intend to bring love, hope and encouragement to as many as I encounter suffering from this disease and expose them to faith in Jesus Christ. I will love and support every single spouse, parent and loved one who is watching their beloved endure the treatment, side effects and suffering associated with this disease. It is crazy how the Lord turns terrible things out for our good. Every detail of our life is packed with promises and purpose even those we find unbearable. God never intended for our life to be this way. We chose it when we decided we wanted sin more than Him. Thanks to Jesus Christ we now have a way back into God's Presence as He invites each person to walk with Him. By faith, this brings confident hope to every situation and circumstance we face in this life. The Lord has promised that He will make everything new and it begins with you. (Revelation 21:5) We have the God-Given Power and Jesus-Authorized Ability to change every outcome in our life.
Love each other in the same way that I have loved you. Jesus loved us by laying down His Life so that we could be saved. He opened the door to freedom from sin, death and the grave. His Power and Authority is guaranteed by the Holy Spirit who lives inside of us. We must use this for God's Purpose and not our own. God designed humanity to walk in close fellowship with Him. Look at the lives of great Biblical figures such as Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:8-9), Enoch (Genesis 5:23-24), and Noah (Genesis 6:8-9) who are noted to have lived in close fellowship with God. Abraham achieved righteousness before it was offered by the Lord living in agreement with God by faith. Now that Jesus Christ has offered the ultimate sacrifice, we are called to lay down our lives for our friends and that is exactly what I intend to do.
Ephesians 5:1-2 (NLT)
Imitate God, therefore, in everything you do, because you are his dear children. Live a life filled with love, following the example of Christ. He loved us and offered himself as a sacrifice for us, a pleasing aroma to God.
As we walk this journey with our son, I have encountered many people who are in the same situation that our family is in. We are all walking through the valley of the shadow of death. Many have lost their loved ones to cancer. These same individuals have now given their life to cheering on our son. They want Him to win the race, cross the finish line and be healed of cancer. They love us, support us, and encourage us. My brother and his wife have graciously housed me during many trips to doctor's visits, treatments and tests for our son. They have lived a life filled with love and close fellowship as they offer of themselves following the example of Jesus Christ as well. I refuse to be a victim and our son feels the same way. We are choosing victory over victimization. We dare to plan the future in the midst of staggering odds. But something is missing that is until last week.
The news rocked me to my core and I was instantly overwhelmed by tears. Another young person now plagued by this devastating diagnosis, oh how I hate cancer. But not just any form of cancer but the exact same rare type our son has. A hit close to home in an old high school friend from my youth group. I know this mom's pain. I feel the depths of the waves of confusion and chaos when an already difficult and hectic life is upended by the unexpected. I know the horror of going from the one praying for such people and becoming that person. I could feel the Spirit of the Lord stirring inside me. I am now her advocate. I reached out to her but have heard nothing back yet I know that I will because there is purpose and meaning in every step of my life thanks to Jesus Christ. He did not design us to walk alone no matter how hard the enemy tries to isolate us in life. We must all learn to offer our lives in love to experience the fulfillment of God through Jesus Christ. Without a sacrificial gift of our life to others, we forfeit the blessings of the Great Commission.
Matthew 28:18-20 (NLT)
Jesus came and told his disciples, "I have been given all authority in heaven and on earth. Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the end of the age."
I used to carry my Bible to school. It was an act of worship in that I truly wanted to share the Gospel with other people. I wanted to be a disciple but didn't know how to do it. It's like wanting to be a teacher but knowing nothing about the subject you teach. I knew that there was power in the Word of God, but it had not become relevant in my life. I had not attained enough knowledge and wisdom. The Word of God was not practical to me yet because I did not fully comprehend all that it meant in my life. I carried it to school because my youth pastor encouraged us to do so. But now that I have studied the Word, tried to do what it says, allowed the Holy Spirit to explain it to me and give me insight something has changed. The Word of God is now the powerful weapon that it was intended to be in my life. (Hebrews 4:12) Through trials and tests, my faith is now secured by confident hope that the Lord can and will deliver in my life. I know His Word so now I know His Will even when I do not understand His Way. Now I have something to offer other people, but it is still a sacrifice of self to do so. We learn to overcome by the Blood of the Lamb and the Word of our testimony. The Grace of God demonstrated through Jesus Christ allows every situation that we face to work out for our good, future and hope. The word of our testimony is our profession of faith in God and confident belief that He can and will do it. Those who walk in such confidence can show others the way. This is what the Lord wanted us to do and we must learn to do it again to please Him with our life.
John 13:34-35 (NLT)
So now I am giving you a new commandment: "Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples."
It is not uncommon for people to become caught up in their own problems. Life will wear you down and overload you if given the chance. But we have the opportunity to transition the burden of our life to Jesus Christ and share His Love with others. We do not have to worry about the law anymore holding us back or restricting us. Grace opens the door to freedom that we may come boldly to God asking for what we need. His Spirit is inside of us pulling us and tugging at our heart to move in the right direction. Those who do will walk on the Highway of Holiness. (Isaiah 35:8-10) Even when all hell is breaking loose around them, they will walk in peace. They can keep their eyes open rather then slammed shut by fear. They can listen for the cries of the fallen because they are led by God's Word, Will and Way. Grace is an opportunity to lay our life down for others effectively. We can actually advocate for others as Christ advocates for us. Are you will to fight for someone else's success? You are not just asked to but it's a full blown commandment of Jesus Christ. The only commandment that He gives His Disciples.
Ephesians 5:15-20 (NLT)
So be careful how you live. Don't live like fools, but like those who are wise. Make the most of every opportunity in these evil days. Don't act thoughtlessly, but understand what the Lord wants you to do. Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs among yourselves, and making music to the Lord in your hearts. And give thanks for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
We must give genuine effort to imitating God and living in the example of Jesus Christ. We are living in those evil days. Bad things happen to good people. Good people die young for no reason. Love has grown cold. Sin is rampant. It's just the way that it is. God didn't tell us to give up. Christ did not die for you to throw in the towel. You have been promised abundant life. Giving ourselves to others and laying down our life for our friends is the first step in claiming such a life. We must live carefully. We must live intentionally. We must make the most of EVERY opportunity to be a light in this world even when it is not convenient or comfortable for us. We have the Holy Spirit. He is working in us and through us to do the Will of God and follow the example of Jesus Christ. We were not created to walk along but live in close fellowship with God and His Kingdom.
Acts 2:42-47 (NLT)
All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord's Supper), and to prayer. A deep sense of awe came over them all, and the apostles performed many miraculous signs and wonders. And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord's Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity-all the while praising God and enjoying the goodwill of all the people. And each day the Lord added to their fellowship those who were being saved.
I have a pastor friend who could squeeze blood out of a turnip and never even touch it. People just give him stuff. Not just old junk or unwanted items, but cold hard cash. He is probably the most generous person that I know. He has a heart for those people the world has forgotten and the Lord has blessed him for it. If more believers devoted their life to generosity with their time, talent and treasure – there would be revival in the House of God. We do not live as Christ intended anymore. Social media and texting allows us to conduct our relationships at a "safe" distance. The early church understood the mandate of Jesus Christ to love one another laying down our lives for each other. Their awe of Jesus Christ made following His Example the highest priority in their life. Perhaps if we looked beyond ourselves into the lives of other people, gave up our comfort zone to get in their mess, to pray for them, encourage them and love them even when we have nothing to give but a shoulder things would start to change in the community of believers we call the church. Their whole life revolved around serving the Lord, worshipping God and adding to the Kingdom no matter what the cost. People got saved every single day.
Ephesians 5:21 (NLT) And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Yes my heart broke for the teenage who is facing the same opposition that our son has waged war against. But more than that I feel compelled to advocate for this family. It would be easy to say that after all we have so much on our plate, but I refuse to do so. This is not about me but Jesus Christ. I own Him everything. I will pray for them. I will be here if they need anything. I will be there if they choose to walk with me as sisters in Christ. God has been so good to me, I want her to see His Goodness in the midst of tragedy. Faith has made all the difference, I want to encourage her to walk by it every step this journey takes them so they will find confident hope in the end. God broke my heart in that moment and I found love for them simply because Christ loves me. It is inside of each of us who believes. Will you allow the Lord to break your heart for someone else today? They cannot be reached from your comfort zone. After all, Jesus went all the way to the Cross to reach us. It will not be accomplished flippantly but you must pursue opportunities fervently. God has allowed the experiences in your life to be changed for your good as faith is renewed, confident hope discovered and a testimony written – you will overcome when you ask others to "walk with me!"
Philippians 2:1-5 (NLT)
Is there any encouragement from belonging to Christ? Any comfort from his love? Any fellowship together in the Spirit? Are your hearts tender and compassionate? Then make me truly happy by agreeing wholeheartedly with each other, loving one another, and working together with one mind and purpose. Don't be selfish; don't try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. Don't look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too. You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.


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setting up a third party smtp with Sky
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 11:25AM
My e-mail provider is a company called Firenet. I have just signed up with Sky and I want to keep my e-mail address with Firenet. The third party smtp settings that Sky gave me - smtp.tools.sky.com and port number 465 - don't work. Sky don't seem to know why it doesn't work and don't seem able to suggest what to do to make it work. I've tried all the permutations including Sky username and password and nothing seems to work. Does anybody have any ideas ? I can receive e-mails but can't send any. I don't want to set up a new e-mail address as this would cause a lot of problems as I'm self employed. thanks
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 12:26PM
I have a vague recollection that you have to alter a setting/tick a box/register the 3rd party email on your account on the web mail server to allow it. Might be this bit 'Sign in to Sky mail go to settings>Forwarding Imap/pop>enable pop and or Imap' (sorry to be so vague, but a search on sky forum might throw up more info)
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 12:32PM
Try using the firenet settings instead firenet. It is worth a try but Sky may block the smtp.
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 1:58PM
By way of background (just in case you are not already aware of this), in using a "3rd party" SMTP service one could (should be able to) send an email from any email address (i.e. even a made up one). All that happens is the SMTP server dumbly passes the email out in to the outside world. Sometimes the SMTP servers do some checks (such as whether the domain used in the senders email address is valid).
So all you need to do is get past whatever is blocking your outbound use. I use a similar approach as you (but with PlusNet) for several old email addresses without problem.
The port 465 that you refer to suggests that Sky require you to use SSL to connect securely (i.e. using encryption) to their SMTP server (so presumably you have the same setting for any supplied Sky email addresses?)
The other main consideration is whether the Sky SMTP server requires authentication (not to be confused with a secure connection to the SMTP server). If authentication is required you need to set your email client settings (specifically the outgoing mail server) for the firenet email account concerned but using your Sky mail login details.
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 2:16PM
Apparently it gets more complicated as Sky have moved (from Gmail servers) their email over to Yahoo Servers this month (April 2013) Sky Yahoo! Mail switchover issues update
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 3:21PM
Most ISPs now require you to authenticate to their SMTP servers. They want to be sure that they can easily trace spam sources.
As Batch correctly states, SKY will require you to use an SSL encrypted connection to the smtp.tools.sky.com server, so you must tick that option when you configure the mail account in your email software. You must also tick the option to authenticate to the server. This will require you to enter a SKY username and password.
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 6:30PM
thanks to all those who responded to my querie. The solution was as follows - once I had set up a Sky e-mail account and added my own e-mail address to it, I was sent a verification. After answering the verification, I checked my Firenet settings on Windows Mail and made sure that they hadn't changed including the port numbers. I didn't use the Sky smtp settings and once the verification was answered, everything jumped into place. It took a long time to get there but a chap at Sky went the extra mile for me in getting this resolved.
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Posted April 29, 2013 at 6:39PM
Thanks for posting the solution, it will help others with same problem.
If you think it's sorted, you can close this thread by clicking on one of the big grey ticks at the right of any post (your own that gives the final solution :)) and it will turn green. When page is refreshed the Thread will be marked 'Resolved' (Can also be Unticked by reverse - click on green tick and it will turn grey, etc)
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Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:16AM
It sounds like firenet are "happy" for you to still access their SMTP servers even though you are no longer using them as ISP . Relatively unusual I think - although similar to the way it works with the likes gmail and gmx work in that you can access their SMTP servers from anywhere [although in those cases you can certainly only send email where the sender address is from one of their respective domains].
Although slightly different, I recall now that, with BT (as ISP), to send "foreign" email thru their SMTP servers, one has to go thru a verification process first (I had to set this up for a neighbour once) AND, I believe that SKY take a similar approach. AFAIK, most ISP's are more relaxed and don't require such verification and just allow one to send anything out over their servers (from your logged in internet connection).
Anyhow, good that you are all sorted.
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McDonald's has been in Ukraine since 1997, and there arew many restaurants in the city. A large McDonald's is located in Khreshchatyk Street. McDonald's is a natuaral place to eat for Ukrainian families and young people. It is not frowned on in Ukraine like it is by some in other European countries.
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McDonald's: At the Railway Station
There are several opportunities for dining at the railway station.
There are snack bars in the stuffy waiting halls.
There is a bar in the underground passage leading from the metro station to the Southern Station.
There is McDonald's restaurant opposite the railway station and Drova restaurant in the shopping mall located opposite the railway station.
This restaurant is open round the clock.
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McDonald's: Very Popular Restaurant
This McDonald's restaurant is located opposite the railway station in Kiev and is always crowded.
If you would really like to have a bite at McDonald's, you'd better take a metro train to "Khreshchatyk" station and go to another one located to the right of the exit of the metro station.
I have dined several times in both and in several others (Post Square and Obolon) and still think the one at the railway station is somehow better.
Maybe I got more used to it during my business trips.
Favorite Dish: BigMac, McChicken, different hot pies (raspberry and cherry)...
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McDonald's (Various Locations): Yes, you can find McDonalds everywhere
First McDonlads was opened in 2000 on Khreshchatyk Street right near Kreshchatyk subway station. This was an event that Kievans expected with great excitement. First week after restaurant opened the longest lines I saw in my life were stretched on Kreshchatyk Street because people wanted to try something other than their native cousine. For a couple of year McDonald's was real fancy restaurant for many Ukrainian families, who saved money for weeks to get into it and buy few humbergers. Recently more people can afford to go to restaurants in Kiev, so McDonlad's is not considered a fancy one anymore, but, again, not for everybody.
There are more than dozen of McDonald's in Kiev. There are locations I know about:
* Khreshchatyk Street (near Khreshchatyk subway station)
* Independence Square (Globe center - underground food court)
* Victory Ave. (near Central ZAGS)
* Poshtova Square subway station (near River Port)
* Leningrad Square (right on the middle)
* Obolon subway station
Favorite Dish: I ate in McDonald's in many countries and I must confess Kiev's one is the best. I don't know the reason. Maybe a good quality of products, or the way how restaurants are managed.
A must-to-try dish is a local addition to a menu - Kartoplya po-selyans'ki (Country made potato). It is quarter cut deep-fried potatos with some spices. I find it delicious.
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McDonald's (Various Locations): McDonalds on the River
This is an excellent location for a McDonalds. It overlooks the Dnieper River. The McDonalds has two story seating and outdoor seating. Unfortunately, being there in the month of January did not make it very conducive to eat outdoors.
McDonalds restaurants seem to...
McDonalds restaurants seem to be everywhere!! They have 8 or 9 at least. That is the only place we ate while we were there, although we did visit 3 of them probably.
Favorite Dish: From what I can tell, I think they have all the same food they have in U.S. restaurants. Unfortunately, the menus are in Russian, so it doesn't appear to be the same restaurant. Order a Big Mac by saying 'Big Mac'--that's the only advice I can really give you. The names are just transliterated I think--sounds English, written in Russian. Good luck!
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McDonalds at Kiyv: Mac Donalds is everywhere
1997 i had to go to McDonalds to get some coffee in the morning. I stayed at Yuri, a friend of my uncle who also took care of my first transport inside the Ukraine.
At his appartment the day there was no coffee or food so i went to MacD and got us some coffee and a menu.
Its very strange to see the menu in ukrainian (russian)language
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On my 1st 2 trips to kiev there was not alot of choice food-wise.The TOURIST HOTEL where i stayed provided meals and they were very ordinary.In fact everywhere I went started you off with the same slice of tomato, cucumber and hunk of smelly fish.The only soft drinks I ever saw were PEPSI and FANTA (orange) and it seemed to me that SNICKERS chocolate bars had the concession in every small town and big city between Poland and Moscow!!!!
I have been told(though I still have a hard time believing it) that since 1998 there are now numerous McDonalds and many HUGE supermarkets as well. BOY...in 1993 I found just a single store that sold anything near what I would have called 'groceries'.Now Kiev 'has everything' so I am told..just no one can afford any of it.GO FIGURE
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yeah, you do a little research yourself and figure out why small guys dont get organic certification (even though their food quality is 100x better than mass produced meat, paultry or veggies). Big guys smack a label on it and charge 2-3x, USDA gets their fees, you pay out of your pocket. This system is broken and i do not support it.
The fact that you put a government label on it (USDA - the biggest enemy of our food chain lol) does not say anything about quality, there are ways to get around regulation. stop living in lala land.
I know you're probably not going to look at the actual science but organic offers no benefits to the environment or consumer.
If you'd like to make specific claims we can examine them but the science is in, organic is a scam.
Popeye's has buy a 3 piece meal and get a 2 piece free. What I do is get one deal. Eat 2 pieces of chicken and sides on the first day. On the second day I put one piece of chicken in the oven, and make my own instant mashed potatoes. Two more pieces left for the third day, I add some homemade french fires and hush puppies, plus Californian Sweet Tea. This beats Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, KFC, Chruches, and even Boston Market.
yeah because i want to consume and have my body deal digesting/filtering all of those growth hormones, pesticides and chicken-eating-chicken/sick meat.
no thanks.
organic is not a scam. the rules are actually really strict. are there ways to subvert the system and fool the inspectors? im sure there is. but imagine what happens at the factories who fool the inspectors and they DONT have the stringent rules.
here is a link to the rules:
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Feel the body temp of the chicken to gauge freshness
Ok,, well that's not quite a specific claim but I will play.
I challenge you to name a single growth hormone you're worried about in us poultry production. Go ahead.
I challenge you to explain why the pesticides used in organic farming are any more or less scary than synthetic ones used in conventional farming.
Chickens are generally fed chicken feed. Please make a more specific claim.
Could someone without a pro- or anti- Whole Foods/organic bias try one of these and compare it against a chicken at Krogers/Costco/Walmart?
I'd be interested to hear if you really do think it has more meat, is tastier, or noticeably anything else. If you can't really tell or just aren't sure that's perfectly valid too.
Wouldn't it matter more how you cook it?
Krogers/Costo/Walmart is un-edible this way, the 'smelly' chicken smell is very obvious and would need to be masked with some sauce.
The whole food chickens are heavily dependent on 'when' you buy them, if they've been sitting on the shelf for more then 3-4 days, it barely passable. If you grab them the first day, turns out ok but now as good as farmers market. Real fresh chicken will not any any hint of smell/odor when raw or boiled
The best are from the farmers market where they kill/process just before selling them.
The fact is i don't know what the hell they are doing on these farms! That is unsettling to me. In the case of organic/local growers and farms, you do at least know the minimum guidelines are being met (link to above pdf), and you can actually find out.
So, when possible, Ill buy chickens/fish/cows that I at least know aren't tainted with drugs whose only purpose is to fatten them up, or 'cure' them of an ailment that if otherwise not dealt with would result in the animal not being able to be sold.
All of these drugs, hormones, gmo'd foods, pesticides etc, have consequences and side effects apparent on the animal, and can easily pass down to the next consumer (us, or in the case of GMO feed, the animal).
I dont even take over the counter (much less prescription) drugs, why would i want to injest them in my food?
And this mindset expands beyond chickens, it applies heavily to milk production, seafood, meats, GMO'd veggies....
Not sure why you would have a problem with someone who thinks this way ^. YouDoYou.
Plus at this price, its about the cost of the non organic chicken... so whats the gripe again?
Just returned from Costco - was $2.49/lb btw. This Whole Foods one is free range and better, IMHO
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Navajo President Ben Shelly earlier this year vetoed measures to establish a junk-food tax and eliminate the tax on fresh fruit and vegetables. At Tuesday's meeting, tribal lawmakers overturned the veto on the tax cut, but a vote to secure the junk-food tax fell short. Lawmakers voted 13-7 in favor of it, but the tax needed 16 votes to pass.
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