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Nick, the last time Byrd151 posted was January of 2011. He may not be monitoring the boards any longer. Similarly, BrentPD has only two posts -- he may have gotten what he needed and moved on. He last posted only two months ago, though, so he might still be monitoring. But let's talk about chain plates.
Good for you! Inspecting the chain plates on a boat of that age is wise. Stainless is subject to crevice corrosion where it is oxygen deprived, and that slowly eats away at the metal. Less metal, less strength. Important stainless steel items on a boat that can suffer from crevice corrosion include chain plates and keel bolts. If chain plates fail, you can lose your mast. If the keel bolts fail, you will probably lose your entire boat. Your model of Islander 30 was designed by McGlassen himself and differs from mine so I don't know how your keel is attached. I hope it is the encapsulated type, in which case there are no keel bolts.
While I can't help you with your specific year and model of Islander, I can point to some good posts that address the general subject.
Here's one
that leads to blog about how the owner did it.
This posting
contains some great advice from Sailingdog, who was one of the most highly respected contributors on the board while he was here. Here's some
more insight
on the chain plate setup.
Finally, I wanted to include some how-to posts on rebedding your chain plates to guard against crevice corrosion. There is not universal consensus on what to use for the rebedding, but butyl tape has worked for me and is recommended by senior members of these boards. Take a look at
this one
. Just so you know, not all butyl tape is created equal. The stuff you can buy at hardware stores isn't very stretchy or sticky, traits you really need in abundance for pieces that move around some, such as chain plates. You can buy the best butyl tape from Mainesail here on this board at a very reasonable price. Use
this Mainesail posting
to do so. Mainesail is also one of the most respected people on this site and does boat maintenance professionally. Be sure to
read through his maintenance articles
. There's also one for rebedding deck hardware using butyl tape.
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Our home is Montgomery Ala and we are headed there to spend Christmas with our kids .
We having been boating for several years , but we are new to sailing and sailboats . We have owned Bayliner cabin cruisers , but in retirement knew we couldn't afford to put gas in them . So we chose a Mac with a Honda 50 .
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Horse and carriage
The classic tourist kitsch transport - horse and carriage pulled through the streets of Melbourne. Has a certain 'romantic' appeal, especially when the city is sun-dappled. 'Til you find out that its basically A$50 for 15 minutes
Unique Suggestions: YOu decide to either do it or not - it is avoidable (although if you have young kids, might be a bit harder)
Fun Alternatives: Walk or catch a tram :)
Hook Turns - not for the faint hearted
One of the most perplexing things about Melbourne is our unique "Hook Turns." Until about 15 years ago there were only 5 hook turn intersections and all in the central business district, but be warned as there has been a population explosion of those dreaded turns and some could even find their way to an intersection near you (could almost be an export income earner for the city).
The first thing to look for is the distinctive sign (see photo) placed before an intersection and in the intersection usually hanging from the tram wires - and there is the reason for these turns; to keep the intersections clear so the trams are not held up by those who want to right turn. Some say the tram drivers take no prisoners and just go straight through anything in their path.
Below is a web link to an animated on-line instruction on how to use our crazy turns, but here's my version:
1. Approach intersection from LEFT lane with right blinker flashing
2. Pray
3. Proceed into intersection and stay as close as you can to the white pedestrian zone line without hitting too many pedestrians.
4. Wipe perspiration from brow and hands - particularly hands as you don't want the steering wheel to slip from your white-knuckle grasp.
5. Just before reaching the furtherest point in the intersection and without hitting any pedestrians or traffic lights, hard turn to the right so your vehicle starts to turn.
6. Stop as close as you can to facing traffic light.
7. Take 5 Valiums
8. When traffic light facing you turns red complete turn BUT check to make sure that no-one - and in particular trams and taxis - has run the red light.
9. Take off as quickly as you can and before you get run down by traffic going in the same direction of travel.
10. Pull over as soon as possible and clean up mess under and on seat.
Suggest you might like to practice several times on a quiet day before attempting in peak periods. Warning, it takes some people 1,000 attempts to get the turn correct and almost never for volvo drivers.
Melbourne's Hook Turns
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You won't get the flavor of Melbourne here!
We suggest you avoid the Crown Entertainment Complex on the south bank at all costs. You see as much about Melbourne and Australia here as you would by visiting New York City (probably less). This is a mega complex of movie theatres, gambling halls, fast food restaurants, yuppie bars and restaurants, ultra-mall style shopping down an endless inside corridor that runs along the Yarra river and ends at the spectacular Crown Hotel with an elaborate watershow in the expansive lobby (the only thing in the complex worth seeing).
Unique Suggestions: See the Crown Hotel at the Queens St. end of the complex and get supper and evening entertainment somewhere else.
Fun Alternatives: Have dinner at one of the many restaurants in the downtown part of the city on the north side of the river. We like "Young and Jackson" bar and Brasserie, upstairs if you can.
Metlink Sunday Saver
On Sundays, the Metlink ticket costs $2.50 for all Zones. This is a great way to travel and see Melbourne.
Compare this to other days, where a 2hour zone1 full fare is $3.20.
However, the machines on the trams and along Flinders st don't have this selection.
Dangerous "Sky Smileys"
It was a night to behold - the 1st December 2008 - when Melbourne (and southern Australia) witnessed a strange sight - a large "smiley" appeared from the heavens ☺☻. The unusual astronomical event occurred when Venus, Jupiter and a three-day-old crescent Moon nearly "aligned" to form the face over our city.
OK so why is this a tourist trap? Well people were craning their necks to see and without looking where they were going, crashed into light poles, traffic signs, other people and cars.
So it is strongly suggested that the next "smiley" event ☺which is expected to be in another 5 years, that you avoid this city and go somewhere else for the night - ouch, who just bumped into me? ☻
The 2 photos of the event were taken about 1 hour apart.
Other than that, can I say ♥ u ☺
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Public Transport
all i can say is give it time, its not new york, its not london, dont expect the same service rate, train times are terrible and dont expect to get to places on time if using public transport.
Unique Suggestions: Go that little bit early, just to make sure you get there or wherever you are going on time!
Fun Alternatives: Its fine as long as you make time for ya travel. Or of course hire a car!!
Airport Taxi's
It should not cost more than about $25 for a taxi from the airport to the city.
However, on my first visit i got conned by a driver telling me that his taxi was a 'special' taxi when i settled up. Funny that as his taxi looked just like all the other cabs ....
That teaches me right not to check the price before getting in i guess but u have been warned, jet lagged travellers are a taxi drivers ideal passengers!
Fun Alternatives: don't be lazy and just get the airport bus to the city which is so much cheaper particually if you are by yourself.
Australian Opals
Well folks I saw plenty of people selling what they call Opal jewelry. I was not impressed.
I was quoted a $3000 AUD price for a strand of boulder opal beads. I looked at the woman and walked out the door. She realized she had tried to "DUPE" the wrong person. The Opal Museum had beautiful specimens at high prices but, they were the real thing and in nice settings. Will look up the adress and print it later.
Unique Suggestions: If you want something jewelry like, find the sterling silver people and buy something inlaid from them. It all comes from asia but it will be far better.
Fun Alternatives: Search out the below street level tourist junk shops. There prices are lower because they are not paying the high rent for street level. I found some nice trinkets, such as cups, scrapbook stickers, small coffee infuser, and keychain holders at reduced prices.
Most of these places are located in and around Swanson STreet.
Melbourne Aquarium - Just for kids!
Don't get trapped! Yes there are some sharks, but the exhibitions are set for children, with very basic scientific explanations. The big thank itself isn't that big. Nothing to do with Sidney Aquarium!
Unique Suggestions: See the sharks in the big thank. If you're lucky enough you could visit the aquarium when some divers feed the fish. Amazing experience.
Fun Alternatives: Go to the zoo, that's much more interesting.
If you're fans of the marine world, then fly to Sidney (Aquarium) or to the Gold Coast (SeaWorld)!
- Aquarium
Recommended in many travel-guides, we made it to Williamstown by boat. The trip takes about 1 hour. Honestly, there is really nothing special to see except a few ordinary houses. "Buildings" would be too much.
So save your money and your time and stay away!!
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day trips at obscene prices
to those who're interested in regional victoria, try to avoid those tour agents that seem to be mushrooming all over the city. they charge exorbitant prices and entice tourists by those buy2free1 type deals which still cost heaps in comparison to renting a car and using the Melway (very readable).
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Australiana - lots of expensive little trinkets?
There are plenty of stores that sell trinkets of 'ýuthentic' Australian products, ranging from the smallest of things (like a packet of TimTam biscuits) to a large didgereedoo. Choose wisely - these places tend to charge exorbitant prices, and you are likely going to find what you are looking for cheaper in a more remote part of the town.
Unique Suggestions: Buy something small, like a fridge magnet!
Fun Alternatives: Instead of buying one of the books with photographs of Melbourne from these stores, go to any one of the bookstores and pick up the same book for less.
- Budget Travel
Koala Conservation Centre on Philip Island
There's 2 parts to this place. The controlled boardwalks area and the bushlands. The ranger tells you that in the boardwalk area (which is quite small), "u can spot koalas on the trees but there are only 6 of them around. So have fun spotting them. If you want to see more, try your luck in the bushlands" - You wouldn't want to pay money to play hide and seek with the koals, would you? When spotted, they are usually high up on the trees. Not up close and personal. Unless you are the adventurous type who will venture beyond the boardwalks into the think forestation, I suggest you give this place a miss.
The Twelve Apostles on the...
The Twelve Apostles on the Great Ocean Road will usually have quite a few people. If you want to take good pictures of this area, try to visit it in the early to mid morning time period. I hit it in the afternoon, when the sun was not in the greatest spot for photos.
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If u want to buy souvenirs do it at the Queen Victoria Market on Victoria Street. They've got everything you can think of and it's cheap. Souvenir shops in the city centre are quite expensive and they sell the same stuff.
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Victor Estrella Burgos of the Dominican Republic added to his banner season, today notching a 7-6(2), 4-6, 6-4, 6-2 win against qualifier Borna Coric, 17 years his junior, in the US Open second round.
The triumph pushed the 34-year-old Estrella into his deepest run in a Grand Slam, and sets up a clash with fifth seed Milos Raonic."I had a lot of emotions while serving for the match and serving at match point," said Estrella, "I cannot believe that I'm in this situation. I was going to make the third round of the US Open. I was a little nervous, and it was very, very emotional for me. Thank God I got the point. After that, I got more [teary-eyed]."
The 17-year age difference between Estrella and his Croatian opponent is the biggest age difference in a US Open match in the Open Era.
With the third-round berth, the 80th-ranked Estrella is guaranteed to rise past his career-high No. 79 (11 August) in the Emirates ATP Rankings.
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Estrella made history in March by becoming the the first player from the Dominican Republic to enter the Top 100. The rankings boost led to a direct acceptance into the Roland Garros main draw, sending the right-hander into the record books as the first Dominican player to compete in a Grand Slam.
The significance of these achievements is not lost on the Santiago native.
"This [win] makes me very strong because I know where I'm from," said Estrella. "I am from the Dominican Republic. I think I'm paving the way for other players. This make me more hungry to do better and better. That makes me a winner, not just for today.
"[Dominicans] are very happy. This is very special for me, to have come a very, very long way," Estrella added. "I had no idea before, when I was 18 years old, about this kind of tournament. But now I'm enjoying it so much. This makes me like every day of my career - doesn't matter my age. Every time I go on the court, it makes me stronger."
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I don't hate PvP, although I'm adverse to being forced to do it, I have rolled PvP characters on every mmo I have ever played.
In every game it works the same. Yes there are some slight differences, but generally speaking this is mmo PvP.
You enter the area and buff up for battle (if you are in a pvp server you are already there, so can skip that step). You run out of the group staging area in your mass of people and run toward the objective, be it a flag, opposing city, helpless noob, whatever.
You pick out your target out of the mass of the other group, sometimes strategically if there is a healer, if it is some noob then target selection not a big deal. You bonsai or nuke your target, because everyone is a dps or a healer, what is the point of a tank.
The combat is intense button mashing for 4 seconds, 6-8 seconds if you have a healer paying attention, then either you of the other sap dies and goes to the bind point. If you live, you target someone else and repeat this step. If you die, you run right back and do the same thing again.
It is fun in short bursts, but this is why most pvp games get some pve content, AoC, or die, APB. Every game, every time, just like this. How long until it gets super boring? 10 times? 100? 500,000? It is still the same process, only the scenery changes.
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Originally posted by zymurgeist
Yes, in a FFA PVP game it is possible to die whenever. What's the point of stating this really?
It is also entirely possible to kill the other person. Depending on the game, the in game guards might even get them before you get them.
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Originally posted by exwin
PVE is exactly like this in a far worst degree.
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This post is growing faster than I can keep up with, so if someone has already pointed this out then I apologize ahead of time but....
I've seen at least a couple of people say there is no such thing as "forced" pvp, that the player always has the choice. When people refer to "forced," they are referring to FFA PvP because the only "choice" there if one does not want to PvP is to not buy/play the game. Other than that, I do not consider walking along minding my own business or out harvesting resources and suddenly finding myself dead on the ground going "what the heck, how'd I die?" because someone one shot killed me before I even realized they were there being given a "choice" (I would have included PvEing in my list of things I was doing when another player killed me but then one could argue that I wouldn't know if it was the npc/animals that killed me or the player or what combination of the two....although it still would not be a "choice" because I was busy doing something else rather than knowingly engaging in PvP). As far as the "choice" of not buying the game, that's great, as long as I have a choice to buy an equally great game with only PvE or, preferably, a combination of PvE and in-world consensual PvP (as in I choose when I am open for PvP and when I am not...whether by talking to an npc and agreeing to join the war efforts like the system SWG had, clicking on something in options, or typing out some command.....although I prefer not to have a TEF system because it is too easy to be accidently pulled into PvP).
For the person who decided none of us that were against FFA PvP had ever played a game with FFA PvP, sorry but wrong. Although I knew I did not like FFA PvP, I have been trying for years to find something that had the sandbox goodness of SWG Pre-CU including players not have levels and not being limited to one skill set, so I tried a game that looked like it had some good features although it was FFA. The combat system was very awkward to me and I was having a difficult time just fighting the animals in the area. Since there were supposedly options in how one could play the game, I decided to stay in the "newbie" area (hoping it was a safe area) for a while, work on some crafting skills and try to improve my combat skills (my ability to deal with the controls system of the game as much as improving my character's skills). I'm attempting to attack a deer when I get the message that I've broken some law (don't remember exactly how the message went). I have no clue what to do so I keep attacking the deer. I die. I respawn and have to find my way back to my corpse, by now it is night time in the game and so dark I can't see anything. I've lost all the stuff I was attempting to gather. I have no clue whether I was attacked by someone or another player got too close to me and I accidently started the fight (like I said, awkward controls). People's suggestion in chat was to join a guild (which may make sense but isn't always easy to do when one first joins a game, especially if one doesn't want to just join the first random guild they find). As others have said, people play games to have fun and the game had already pushed my frustration level too much so I logged out and deleted the game.
My other negative experiences with PvP came out of SWG and the TEF system, but I quickly learned how to have the fun of killing npc stormtroopers and doing other rebel missions while lowering the risk of other players finding me.
Oh....and here's an anti-PvP scenerio that involves me being the winner (just in case there still hasn't been one): I agreed to PvP with a guildmate. I usually stink at PvP so I'm just spamming attacks as quickly as I can. At one time, the game had a system where the winner had to make a choice to kill the loser (I think it was a pop-up but don't really recall now) but the system had changed so if the winner attacked once more after the other person had fallen, the attack killed the other person. With my spamming attacks, by the time I registered that I had won, I had already attacked again causing the guildmate to die (difference being that rather than the person being able to stand up after the fight was over and be healed on the spot, the person had to respawn or have a costly rezz kit used on them and took damage to their equipment). We went a few more rounds and almost every time I won, I would accidently kill the guy. I apologized to him and felt bad about it. The negative in this scenerio is more of a flaw in the system that I didn't like because I don't have an issue with consensual 1 on 1 pvp (although I do have an issue with random pvp invites especially getting spammed with them). As far as the "observation" that scenerios are usually about the person losing, it would be common sense for the scenerios to be from that point of view because it is usually the loser that experiences the negative side of PvP, other than feeling guilty about winning or getting spammed or harrassed by the loser, there is very little negative to be experienced by the winner and the negative can easily be dealt with be either a) intentionally losing, b) compensating for the loser's losses, or c) muting/ignoring person to prevent IMs, As people have pointed out, there are "bad apples" in PvE and PvP, difference is, in PvE, dealing with "bad apples" is usually easier (although there are some exceptions).
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Originally posted by bcbully
Two boxers meeting in a ring are testing their skills against each other. One boxer attacking the other while he's taking a shit is not.
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Originally posted by exwin
The problem is, what you've just described is the Battlegrounds type of pvp you see in most MMOs these days. In that case, you're right, it gets old pretty quick. When I first encountered open world pvp, I hated it also. I'm not a hardcore gamer who plays 8 hours a day and can always stay ahead of the curve. However, I grew to enjoy the pvp aspect, and when I tried newer games without open world pvp, I realized just how important it was.
When I think of open world pvp, I think of my 6+ year experience in Lineage 2. I remember countless battles that could last hours. The biggest difference is that pvp can happen when you don't expect it. And it makes a huge difference. The game is much more thrilling and suspenseful when anyone you come across could decide to kill you at any moment. Likewise, stronger bonds are formed when people choose to help you out instead of killing you. You don't get that type of experience in games where the only reason people are helping/killing you at a particular point in time is because it's their only option. Battleground/instanced pvp that is disconnected from pve gets old quickly because it's essentially meaningless. Open world pvp is much more significant, because it ties into the pve aspect of the game and affects everyone. When valuable resources, items, character levels and the like are on the line, it's far less boring than fight, die, respawn, repeat until the instance ends or you get bored and turn pvp "off".
I could say the exact opposite. This is why pve games need pvp content. How many times can you repeat the same kill x of y quests, or do the same dungeon or raid before it gets super boring? My answer to that question is, not long. Artificial Intelligence in games has not yet reached a point where it can provide any real challenge or variety. Oftentimes the scenery doesn't even change, and the dialogue is all recycled which no one bothers to read anyway because they don't have to.
The only real longevity a game can maintain is through pvp content. Pve cannot keep up with the playerbase. The beautiful thing about strong pvp content in an open pvp environment is that the game and it's landscape is ever-evolving as a result of the community itself. Huge alliances are formed and broken due to actions of people involved, and politics and diplomacy are an ever-present and ever-important part of the game. Someone did something that really pissed you off? Declare war on his entire guild, slow their pve progression to a halt and do everything you can to make them regret what they did. You can't do that sort of thing when you can't attack someone because the game simply doesn't let you, or the game provides some nonsensical arbitrary barrier like factions. Players should create the factions themselves.
If people have the choice to avoid pvp whenever they want, then they will simply avoid it when it doesn't go their way. This makes it meaningless in the big picture of the game's landscape. Thus, the game's long-standing appeal suffers when you're stuck with doing the same recycled pve content over and over.
My 2 cents.
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Originally posted by DavisFlight
The point is it makes no difference what game. There is no magic PvP game where it will all be wonderful for PvE players because it's not WoW. To people who don't want to PvP all PvP games are the same. Your whole initial post was nonsensical.
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I don't hate PvP, I just hate the cocky kids who ruin it for the rest of us with their bragging and insults. I also hate the high level people who sit around and camp low levels. Don't you have anything better to do than farm people who stand no chance?
If you find yourself wondering why people won't flag and fight you in a game, look at yourselves. Instead of being an elitist prick, just accept that you killed someone and move on instead of making that person feel like crap.
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I actually like pvp....when I choose to participate. That is why I will only roll on a PVE server of any game. If the game has no PVE servers, I don't play it. I like the leveling process and open pvp gets in the way. End game, I play pvp matches, battlegrounds or arena, whatever the game has, but it's my choice to enter it.
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Originally posted by bcbully
I'm not sure how this has even generated so much discussion. It's just what I prefer. Some like coffee and some prefer tea. Why? Who cares?
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To the OP, this isn't an insult or demeaning, but lets be honest, if you don't get why some people hate PVP I don't think anything anyone says here is going to help you.
A clue however, its not 95% of PVP'ers that have caused all those people to dislike PVP so much, and there is a long long history of broken and low population MMORPG,s out there that stand as testament to real or perceived problems of PVP in MMORPGs.
People singular are OK but put them into a massive crowd then at the same time make them all anonymous, a 1000 different ways of asshattyness (real word, I made it) well manifest itself within 10 mins in an uncontrolled environment, the Lord of the Flies effect at the very least.
There is no God, there is no Devil, nor Angels and Demons, there is only us, surely thats bad enough, for no creature is able to commit such acts of hate and love, sometimes in the same day.
I like PvP, thats why I play Dota2.
I play MMOs for the gear grind and raiding.
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I absolutely love PVP, it is the only reason I am playing MMORPGs, to gear up massmurder peoples avatars. If I wanted to play for the story I'd be playing singleplayer games. PVE just cant entertain.
That said, massmurder does not mean slaughtering lowlevels or such, just people you stalk for a while before jumping them at the right moment. Sadly most games these days are so much games and so little world. Prefered the days when you actually gained something from killing others and people actually took note and started hunting you. The adrenaline when you had a bunch of people in your heels with a ton of good loot and they all want you killed preferably a few times over.
Those games are gone though and so are the PK vs PKK (anti pks). :(
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Any fool can know. The point is to understand.
Actually I think it's tha fact that PvP is implemented badly in most games.
The only true PvP games I can think of are counterstrike and fighting games. Where both players are on an even playing field and no access to external power.
MMOs or modern shooters on the other hand allow veteran players to gain much more gear allowing them to have much more choice over tactics. So when you PvP now it's a matter of getting the best gear and not getting the best skills.
TLDR Counterstrike is true pvp. MMO pvp is just for fun.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
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Originally posted by bcbully
While I agree that PvP systems can be improved to get more involved the main point is:
People just don't want to PvP
The reason? It doesn't matter and they don't owe you an explaination. The main problem here is that the lack of wanting to PvP is seen as a problem that needs to be fixed. It doesn't. They aren't too scared, too intimidated or too shy to PvP and whenever it's framed that way it honestly makes the commenter look very foolish in my eyes at least. There are some people, I was one of them, that always stayed away from PvP and it had to do with a difference in goal while playing MMOs... simple as that. The PvPers tend to be the ones attaching all of the drama to it and it's not needed.
I really do appreciate you trying to make PvP better and the end result could be better for all. It's just incorrect to assume there is a problem with people who don't want to PvP.
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Originally posted by Magnetia
Here you got it all wrong, not everyone enjoys esport. Esport is one kind of PVP remember though that there are many kinds, warfare, market pvp (in case of EVE for example), there is the open world PVP for spots/areas and there is the ganking and PKing. Ofc there are many more ways but you can't say one way is right and the other is not. Tell EVE players that their PVP is just for fun and not real and see what they got to say about that.
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Let's be honest people.. most people who do not like pvp is because they are bad at it. Period.. they'll never admit though..
If i was horrible at it id hate it also, but im not...


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Re: Blizz removes HW sound acceleration from WoW
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Are you kidding? Vector functions (e.g. physics) are a lot more computationally taxing than the more common sinusoidal functions (e.g. sound processing) and today's games will throw a hell of a lot more than 128 different interactions at any given time without skipping a beat. If we were talking 1999 this would be a big deal, but with todays CPU's...an analogy of a hot knife going through butter comes to mind.
Nevertheless HRTF processing will reduce performance on a single core processor compared to DSP rendering or multi-core rendering.
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HRTF is cheesy btw, that will never work anywhere near as well as a true surround setup will. It doesn't matter how much they improve the technology, it is just physically impossible because everybody has a differently shaped head. Unless they invent some kind of optical deep ear canal scanner and figure out how to correctly map the acoustics of everybody's ear lobe.
I disagree. In terms of accurately positioning sound in a 3D space a surround speaker system can never come close to HRTF. It doesn't matter how many speakers you add, a surround speaker set up can never simulate vertical sound positioning in a convincing way. Aureal, Sensaura, Creative and other have tried, but is just doesn't work . This is one of the reasons why HRTF algorithms are preferred by scientists and professionals.
Regarding differently shaped ear lobes, this problem is relatively easy to overcome. Sensaura has invented a tool called "Virtual Ear". It can be used to tweak their HRTF algorithms according to each individual's ear lobe. I'm sure NASA, USAF and similar organizations use similar tools.
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We fought, and she's hurt. Can things be normal again?
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I think things have become very intense for both of you. This began with her hiding from you that she was sleeping with someone else. Sadness and rage can make us do things we didn't intend, it stops us from thinking and the hurt guides us to act on impulse. What you did wasn't a good response to your hurt, and hurt her in turn, two wrongs pretty much seldom make anything right, but things can heal up again.
You need to give her and especially yourself, time apart to recover first, let things cool down. I'd say a few weeks after this event. Then I would try talking to her. Start on a positive note to avoid any hurt and arguments, talk it through how you feel and ask her how she feels, plan together and set some promises to each other that you will be honest to each other, if you both decide to keep the relationship.
If this doesn't work out (Takes two people to want to work things through) things have gone too far and it possibly won't work if you go back to a relationship where you feel you can't completely trust that person after they lied to you, and the same for her. Wait a little then talk it through if you feel you don't want to lose her.
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I have been in a slightly similar situation where I was in a very unhappy relationship and fell for someone else and decided 2 pursue something I broke up with the guy in a week after we finally confronted each other about how strongly we felt about each other and got into a relationship with the guy turned out it was a mistake I didn't take all my time to look past his sweet words and promising lies and really fell for him, to make story short he lied a lot and ended up sleeping with my bff
Anyway the point from this story is take ur time-alone- and rethink everything and just take and emotional break and see if you still wanna pursue this relationship and she should do the same after this break everything is gonna come clear and its not gonna b too hard 2 come to terms specially thatshe also wants 2 take this break
I'm not saying forget her but stop talking to her keep it 2 the minimum. After that she's gonna have
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I think you both are a little too emotional right now. It's never right to get involved with someone else's relationship, and what you did was wrong. But she also lied to you.
I think you learned a lesson. You should never go after somebody who is in a relationship and expect them to be as good as their word. You end up falling for false pretenses and lies.
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I couldn't find any way to see the number of contacts on Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5, but I suppose that if you synchronize them to Outlook and select them all, you should see the number of selected contacts on the lower right (or left, can't really remember) area.
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Thanks, but the problem I am having is that not all contacts are getting synced, and I thus wanted to find a count to determine how big the problem is. I am stumped as to why I am not getting a complete sync. When i discover a contact that has not been synced, I then make a small change in Outlook, and it immediately syncs thereafter. Pretty strange, and I cant seem to get to the bottom of it.
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I will warn you all i am an uber-n00b. I'm running a geforce fx 5200 personal cinema card and i am trying to install the driver for it in redhat 9. it will not allow me to install the drivers while x is running but i cannot shut it down using init 3, as the command is not recognized and i cannot kill the task because it restarts itself immediately. anyone have any ideas?
You need to be root to init 3 / telinit3. Or change your runlevel in /etc/inittab and reboot.
I actually did run the init 3 command as root and it still said that it was a bad command, like it didn't exist... maybe i'm just new to redhat. Thanks for the tip, any other ideas?
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Could be a path issue. Try using full path /sbin/init 3 .
If that comes back with command not found, check that it's installed properly with rpm -V SysVinit. No output indicates it is installed correctly.
Hope that helps and is the issue.
X keeps respawning because you're using a Display Manager (maybe KDM, GDM or XDM).
try to kill kdm (if you use this):
# killall kdm
otherwise do a:
# ps aux
and try to find out from the output what DM is active, then kill it.
I'm at work right now but as soon as i get back home i will try these ideas out! thanks a lot guys!
I am really glad the linux community is so friendly. one day i hope to be as helpful to other n00bs as you all have been to me.
first what environment are you typing init 3 in? That is have you switched to a vertual ternminal or are you doing in from within a Xterm window?
hold the LEFT ctrl and alt keys then hit one of the F key between 1 and 6 (there are six "vertual terminals living on the f keys. Your X display acctualy lives on F7.
once loged in as root on a vertual terminal type
whereis init
you should get somthign like this.
whereis init
init: /usr/src/linux-2.4/init /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-28.9/init /sbin/init /etc/init.d /usr/share/man/man8/init.8.gz
/sbin/init is teh one your looking for. The sbin directorys hold exacutables that only root can access.
if its there then simply type init 3 enter you should see some services shutting down. and to check that X is realy dead hit ctl+alt F7 and it will be a black screen with a blinking curser.
go back to your vertual turminal and run your NVIDIA*.run. Hopfully all will be good.
when your XF86config is eddited type in init 5 to go back to graphical mode. Be sure to go back to your virtual turminal and log out of root.
LOL!! I love your signature!
I'm going straight home to try out these ideas
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- By Elias GrollElias Groll is an assistant editor at Foreign Policy. A native of Stockholm, Sweden, he received his undergraduate degree from Harvard University, where he was the managing editor of The Harvard Crimson.
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What does a quarter of a billion dollars buy in the world of left-wing journalism? So far, four thousand words on the use of metadata in America's drone war and three photographs of the office buildings that house the American intelligence-industrial complex.
The $250 million dollar venture in question is part of Pierre Omidyar's First Look Media. The eBay founder has pledged that sum in an effort to support independent journalism, and on Monday he unveiled the first of several "digital magazines" that will make up his news operation. That site, The Intercept, is the new home of Glenn Greenwald and what might be called his merry band of left-wing muckrakers, Jeremy Scahill and Laura Poitras.
Their debut as Omidyar employees, however, is a modest one. The site's lead story — with Scahill and Greenwald's bylines — exposes how the NSA has turned its metadata collection program toward the battlefields of America's drone war. By scooping up suspected militants' cellular data, Scahill and Greenwald write, the NSA assumed an instrumental role in identifying targets for America's deadly fleet of drones.
This technology, while excellent at tracking individual phones and building up networks, turns out to be less than capable in determining who is actually carrying the phone in question. While the NSA can tell you who a given phone has communicated with and where that phone is, the agency isn't quite as talented in figuring out who is on the other end of that phone. Insurgents haven't made things easier on the agency: They frequently switch SIM cards in the phones and distribute them among the local population. "Once the bomb lands or a night raid happens, you know that phone is there," a former drone operator for the military's special operations command told Scahill and Greenwald. "But we don't know who's behind it, who's holding it. It's of course assumed that the phone belongs to a human being who is nefarious and considered an 'unlawful enemy combatant.' This is where it gets very shady."
Moreover, the lack of human intelligence assets in places like Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia has only magnified the role of the NSA metadata program in drone strikes.
In hiring Scahill, Greenwald, and Poitras, Omidyar in one fell swoop acquired three of the leading lights of aggressive national security journalism, and Monday's offerings at the Intercept paint a fairly predictable picture of what we might expect from the site: aggressiveness, a skepticism bordering on paranoia, and plenty of documents provided by Edward Snowden.
As a result, national security flacks in Washington in all likelihood witnessed the site's launch with heavy hearts. White House spokesperson Caitlin Hayden features heavily in the Intercept's inaugural story, and it doesn't require a great deal of effort to read between the lines of the statements she provided to Scahill and Greenwald and discover the loathing she must have for these men. She declined to discuss "the type of operational detail that, in our view, should not be published." Valiantly contradicting the main thrust of the story, she insisted that "our assessments are not based on a single piece of information."
Hayden also has a point: Scahill and Greenwald do include a perhaps surprising level of operational detail, including information about how a transponder bolted to a drone functions as a dummy cell tower to collect phone data. That's the type of specific information that a detail a mainstream outlet would probably have excised at the request of government officials, particularly since it's not clear what compelling public interest was served by publishing it. A recent New York Times story offers a constructive example. When the paper in January revealed how the NSA is able to access computers disconnected from the web, it offered extensive justification in the article about how the program had been revealed in bits through various reports based on Snowden documents. The paper had previously withheld details about the program, but with the Snowden documents having compromised the technology's secrecy, the Times did an about face and ran the story.
The Intercept appears far less concerned about protecting the integrity of government surveillance technology. In an interview Monday with Democracy Now, Greenwald offered something of a philosophy behind his journalism and why he would choose to expose the technical aspects of a program that the White House adamantly maintains is crucial to national security. "You know, there's a lot of debates about journalism and how it should best be practiced, but I think everybody ought to agree that journalism is supposed to be about informing the public of the truth, and especially debunking official lies," Greenwald said. "And a big part of our story and why we wrote it and published it was because you have President Obama running around saying that we only kill or target people when there's a near certainty there won't be civilian deaths, and, of course, we know that to be completely false, because the methods that we reported on have almost a — I wouldn't say a near certainty — but a very high likelihood of killing the wrong people, killing innocent people."
Then again, there are also those who think that the Intercept didn't go nearly far enough with its article. Most notable among them, Julian Assange:
@jeremyscahill @ggreenwald Why has #Firstlook not released full documents for today's story? A bad precedent to set right out of the gate.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) February 10, 2014
@jeremyscahill @ggreenwald We're over joyed to have competition. But we want it to be real competition and not to undermine our standards.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) February 10, 2014
@jeremyscahill @ggreenwald If our legacy is undermined the new standard will be that only quotes from docs are politically acceptable.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) February 10, 2014
But what did this story hope to achieve? The fact that the United States often kills the wrong people in the course of drone warfare cannot come as news. Rather, what we learn in this story is that the NSA is in part responsible for providing the faulty intelligence that sometimes results in American drones targeting wedding parties. That the NSA plays a role in determining targets for drones should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Scahill and Greenwald clearly lack interest in the mainstream media's willingness to occasionally defer to government claims that national security could be harmed if certain classified information were to appear in the public domain. They have instead arrived on the scene to inform their colleagues in the media that this way of deciding what is and is not "news" effectively leaves journalists collaborating with the NSA and its partners in the U.S. intelligence community.
And that's what the Intercept is about: tipping the scales of power away from the intelligence community. And that's why Greenwald — as the journalistic face of the Snowden revelations — has become such a hated figure in much of Washington.
The photo essay that accompanies the Intercept's launch may provide the clearer editorial mission. The photographer Trevor Paglen has built a vibrant artistic practice out of photographing the vast geography of America's veiled national security apparatus. He travels the Nevada desert to take pictures of bases and snaps photographs of drones against Technicolor skies that evoke the grand traditions of landscape painting. In doing so, he turns the watchers into the watched. For The Intercept, he climbed aboard a helicopter and took photographs of NSA headquarters and the office buildings that house the National Reconnaissance Office and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. One of those photos illustrates this article.
The NSA probably doesn't need reminding, but the message is clear: Glenn Greenwald is watching you.
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"We will face the case with the right approach and I am hopeful we will come out of it," the 43-year-old daughter of DMK President M. Karunanidhi told reporters at her CIT Colony residence here.
Ms. Kanimozhi, who was in jail for her alleged role in the 2G case, arrived here on Saturday after getting bail.
Noting that the 88-year-old DMK patriarch was "totally upset" about she being sent to jail, Ms. Kanimozhi said she was glad to return to Chennai. "I am very happy to be in Chennai as I have been able to meet all the party supporters at one place. Their grand welcome gave me resilience".
On Saturday, Ms. Kanimozhi returned to Chennai to a rousing reception by the party cadres. She along with her husband Aravindan and son Aditya were received at the airport by Mr. Karunanidhi and his son M.K. Stalin among others.
Ms. Kanimozhi was arrested on May 20 by the CBI in connection with payment of Rs. 200 crores by the DB Group to DMK-run Kalaignar TV in which she is one of the Directors.
After denial of bail by the trial court, high court and the Supreme Court on earlier occasions, Ms. Kanimozhi was finally granted the relief by the High Court on November 28.
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Let's clear this up, no merchant marine officer or pilot ever would love to run someone over much less a collision with another vessel. We can lose our jobs for life, not to mention the mental trauma if life is lost from their action. That being said, if a sailboat or any vessel(fishing, trawling) is impeding traffic within a traffic separation scheme they are at fault. That is why they have those lanes so everyone has their own area to prevent collisions and traffic issues. If you aren't conducting business and/or have a draft that requires you to stay in the channel, you have no business being there.
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Completely agree. It was a lame joke. This wasn't a TSS though. It was an inland navigation channel and there's no way to sail SF Bay without going through these areas. Getting a blast from a pilot boat about your intentions is embarrassing, but hopefully it makes you better at paying attention. Getting repeatedly blasted to the point that the CG has to be called is real ignorance and very dangerous to all of us.
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OCEANSIDE: City doubles downtown parking meter rates
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Downtown and beach parking meter rates were doubled Wednesday from 50 cents an hour to $1 an hour, as the Oceanside City Council struggled with a series of measures to help erase an $8 million budget deficit .
Council members also voted 3-1 for a plan to charge fees to nonresidents involved in car crashes, hazardous waste spills and fires caused by negligence. The fees would only be charged in cases where they would be covered by insurance, Acting Fire Chief Daryl Hebert said.
Councilman Jack Feller voted against the fees, which were supported by Mayor Jim Wood and Council members Jerry Kern and Esther Sanchez.
Feller also voted against the increase in parking meter fees, which was supported by the rest of the council.
"A dollar seems reasonable, if not cheap, anymore," Mayor Jim Wood said.
Sanchez said the increase would put Oceanside more in line with other beach cities, some of which charge more than $1 an hour, Sanchez said.
To make it easier for parkers to pay the higher rates, City Manager Peter Weiss said, the city may install meters that accept dollar bills and credit cards.
City officials estimated that the higher meter rates would raise $60,000 to $100,000 per year. Oceanside last raised parking meter rates in 1991 from 25 cents to 50 cents.
Council members deadlocked 2-2 over a proposal to determine whether the city could save money by offering some city workers a bonus to retire early.
The council in a 3-1 vote rejected a proposal to require some city workers to pay more of their pension costs as proposed by Kern.
Human Services Director Brian Kammerer said the retirement plan would save the city up to $3.5 million over five years. Kammerer also said early retirements could avoid layoffs .
"If the cost savings is not here, we do not move forward," Kammerer said.
Kern said city workers are well paid and already have good retirement plans.
"I don't think we need to bribe them to leave," Kern said.
Feller said the proposal sounded too much like giving workers a "golden handshake," which he said was inappropriate for public agencies.
Sanchez and Wood said it made sense to at least get more information about the retirement bonus proposal before outright rejecting it.
Kern pressed a plan that would require an estimated 100 city workers who are not represented by labor unions to pay their full share of pension costs. Excluding public safety workers, most city employees pay 4 percent of their salary towards retirement and the city pays 4 percent. Public safety workers pay nothing.
Kern said all city workers should pay their full costs.
Wood, Sanchez and Feller voted against his suggestion. They said it was unfair to single out unrepresented workers.
"What's fair for one should be fair for all," Feller said. He said the council should wait until after a June 8 special election before making any changes in city pensions. The election is to choose a fifth council member to fill the unexpired term of Rocky Chavez, who resigned in December to become state undersecretary of veterans affairs.


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To the editor: Around 4 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 2, my husband fainted and fell in the kitchen. I called 911 and was told what to do and that help was on the way.
In a very short time, an off-duty EMT was at the door and started checking his vitals. Soon, there were six EMTs or paramedics here taking care of him and assuring us it (fainting) was from age, heat and dehydration.
They recommended going to the emergency room for further testing, which we did. The hospital also was prompt in caring for him in every way.
To the editor: Recently, the Brunswick County Board of Education voted to name the new school under construction in the Cedar Grove community Cedar Grove Middle School.
The decision did not come without controversy, and I applaud the logic and fairness of the board members who voted in accordance with the final decision.
However, I do have concerns about other actions the board has taken recently under the guidance of the superintendent, Dr. Katie McGee.
To the editor: Benjamin Franklin, in Poor Richard's Almanac, 1741, wrote: "Beauty, like supreme dominion, is but supported by opinion."
It's my opinion the flowers along Main Street and Rourk Gardens in Shallotte have definitely brought enhanced beauty to our town. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Sara McCullough and anyone who assisted her with this beautification project.
I love calling Shallotte home. It's a pleasure to drive through town and see the gorgeous flowers blooming in the summer sun.
To the editor: Have you ever noticed a butterfly's flight appears to be haphazard, unlike that of most birds who fly generally in straight lines? I'm no aeronautical engineer, so a butterfly's anatomical design may require such erratic flight.
However, I am more inclined to believe its flight pattern is a means of self-preservation. Some birds eat insects, including butterflies, but for a bird to match the flight pattern of a butterfly would be a daunting task. A butterfly's Achilles heal may simply be exhaustion.
To the editor: Sen. Barack Obama's new energy plan is a farce and a cruel joke on the American people. In his divine wisdom, he is going to decide how much profit a company can make.
With the oil companies, it does not matter the profit margin is low, i.e. Exxon 8 percent, Disney 14 percent, Google 27 percent and Microsoft 28 percent.
What matters is you think Exxon makes too much money. Obama is going to take Exxon's profits for five years and give a one-time payment of $1,000 per family to offset high heating bills in this winter.
To the editor:
Thank you for John Heidtke's editorial, "Roscoe the Rooster," in the July 31 edition of the Brunswick Beacon.
The lesson learned hit the mark. I hope it was not too subtle for your readers.
To the editor: I read the Beacon article, "Breaking addiction."
Does Superior Court Judge Ola Lewis really believe people find truth in the goals she claims to aim for? She should have thought of helping Brunswick County as a whole long before now.
And thanks, Mr. Hobbs, for being so true and straightforward at the board meeting.
Erica Fullwood
Cedar Grove
To the editor: Big changes are coming to broadcast television. At noon Sept. 8, all full-power broadcast television stations in the Wilmington-area, including Brunswick County, will stop broadcasting in analog and continue broadcasting in digital only.
This is known as the digital television (DTV) transition. Other parts of the nation will make the switch on Feb. 17, 2009.
To the editor: The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on April 28 that would reduce hospice rates by eliminating the budget neutrality adjustment in the hospice wage index. CMS has stated publicly the final rule on this provision is expected on Aug. 1.
Nationally, the regulation would take more than $2.3 billion in payments to hospice providers, according to a recent MedPAC study. Once fully implemented, this regulation would cut reimbursement to hospices when more and more people need and use this vital service.
To the editor: I am a registered Republican and am appalled to think the party endorsed a candidate for state Senate who knows so little about the issues. The Beacon allows candidate Bettie Fennell free rein to take Sen. R.C. Soles to task for refusing to agree to suspend the rules of the Senate regarding the Annexation Moratorium Bill.
Will she vote to suspend the rules? Why even have rules then?
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Cinema In Hindi or Hollywood films, inspired casting and perfect pairing can turn out hits. V. Gangadhar
What makes star pairs click? Why did the famous producer-director, Alfred Hitchcock, cast a young Grace Kelly with Hollywood's senior stars, Jimmy Stewart and Cary Grant? What made director William Wyler persuade established star, Gregory Peck, to co-star with the inexperienced Audrey Hepburn in 'Roman Holiday,' which turned out to be a classic?
Can one forget the most famous couple, Richard Burton and the beautiful Elizabeth Taylor? Although Burton was the better actor, his pairing with Taylor produced hits such as 'Taming of the Shrew' and 'Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf.' These are cases of inspired casting. Right actor for the right role!
If there was chemistry between the leading pair, the screen sizzled. Rather than trying to outdo each other, they worked to bring out the best.
Some directors believed that performances became elevated and were realistic if the hero and the heroine were in love in real life and an example was the famous lovers of the Hindi screen, Nargis and Raj Kapoor. Cinema in their days did not show physical intimacy, but their eyes conveyed so much more. In the later RK films, Raj was paired with Padmini and Vyjayantimala. The films were hits but the chemistry was missing.
Dilip Kumar had this chemistry with a number of heroines such as Kamini Kaushal, Vyjayantimala, Madhubala and to a lesser extent, Waheeda Rehman. By the time 'Mughul-e-Azam' was completed, the Dilip-Madhubala romance had cooled off.
But on screen, they still managed to enact some of the most sizzling love scenes. It was a mark of their professionalism.
Comic duo
Perfect pairing was not reserved only for the lead players. It could happen with comic stars too. In his heyday, comedian Mehmood jelled with both Shubha Khote and Aruna Irani with whom he was, reportedly, involved romantically. Their comic-cum-love scenes clicked in such a big way that they acted in dozens of films, which became hits. In Tamil cinema, for decades, it was difficult to imagine N. S. Krishnan without T. A. Madhuram who became as important as the major stars.
Sometimes, acting skills rather than sex appeal or good looks created a star pair. This generally worked for actors who were not cut out for glamour roles. A good script, an intelligent director - even with limited funds, such a pair could turn the film into a hit. One such screen couple was Farooque Shaikh and Deepti Naval. They captured hearts with light romantic comedies such as 'Chashme Buddoor.'
During the 1980s, they represented intelligent and light comedies ('Katha', 'Saath Saath', 'Ek Baar Chale Aao' and 'Rang Birangi'), which appealed to and drew the huge number of family units to the theatres.
During the 1970s, Sheikh and Naval were TV personalities who were brought together by director Sai Paranjpaye in 'Chashme Buddoor'. The film had a youthful, realistic, middle class charm but it also had enough commercial ingredients to click at the box office.
He was the job seeker and she was a detergent ('Chamko') salesgirl. They met, had normal dates, travelled by scooter and shared 'Tooti Frooti' at New Delhi's restaurants and parks. This was how young couples courted in those days and with audiences identifying themselves with all the film's characters, 'Chashme Buddoor' was a big hit. After that every producer wanted to make a 'Chashme Buddoor' with the same pair. But they refused to be typecast and accepted parts in different kinds of comedies such as 'Katha' and 'Kissi na Kahena,' directed by the late Hrishikesh Mukherjee. The pair then drifted apart and at that time the focus of Hindi cinema also changed. Even the roles offered did not interest them.
Farooque and Deepti, who enjoyed each other's company and appreciated their respective talent, had no regrets about not reaching the top in terms of money and fame. He did theatre, and both of them had interesting TV assignments. But Farooque at 63 and Deepti at 54, after nearly 27 years of screen separation, will now be seen in a couple of movies and are excited about it. They have interesting roles in Hema Malini's home production, 'Tell me, O Khuda,' starring Esha Deol. Hema Malini was keen to rekindle the nostalgia of the Shaikh-Naval combination. The pair will also be playing the lead in producer Avinash Singh's, 'Listen, Amaya,' which has a 2012 release date. Once again, cinema-goers will get to watch these two talented actors.
Keywords: Hollywood cinema, Bollywood, Leading pair, Onscreen chemistry, Farooque Shaikh and Deepti Naval