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KANEVILLE—A Maple Park man was arrested after police found him in possession of a vehicle stolen in a burglary, one of 13 burglaries that took place April 30 in Kaneville.
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- Posted May 25, 2010
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- Posted May 24, 2010
KHS students earn honors in IWPA contest
Kaneland—Four Kaneland High School students were among the 54 honored by the Illinois Woman's Press Association (IWPA) during its annual High School Communications Contest.
- Posted May 22, 2010
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Even though he has always been a planner, Charlie McCormick, Kaneland District superintendent for the past 12 years, said when he retires in June, he has no set agenda for the future.
- Posted May 21, 2010
McCormick looks back, ahead
KANELAND—If one word could be used to describe Kaneland School District during Superintendent Charlie McCormick's 16 years with it, that word would be "growing.†One word best describes how McCormick dealt with that issue, "planning.â€
- Posted May 21, 2010
Motorcycle parade will escort singer into village
MAPLE PARK—A parade of more than 50 motorocycles will escort country-music singer Lindsay Lawler into Maple Park, from Route 47 north on County Line Road, at 6 p.m. Friday, May 28.
- Posted May 21, 2010
Nashville country star coming to MP
MAPLE PARK—Country-music recording artist and Nashville headliner Lindsay Lawler will perform at H.D. Rockers in Maple Park on Friday, May 28.
- Posted May 21, 2010
New bylaws for library
SUGAR GROVE—The Sugar Grove Library Board on May 13 changed several library bylaws to make it easier for the board to outline its officers' responsibilities and to navigate a budget expected to tighten considerably during the next...
- Posted May 21, 2010
PeepGov.com offers close look at lawmakers
ELBURN—A new website makes it easier for people to keep track of the business their local lawmaker is conducting in the U.S. Capitol.
- Posted May 21, 2010
Students say moms are best in town
SUGAR GROVE—Three local mothers received a special honor just before Mother's Day, winning the Best Moms in Town contest.
- Posted May 21, 2010
KHS baseball keeps hitting at 21 wins
KANELAND—Kaneland baseball hit the 20-win mark once again and found itself with a chance at Western Sun Conference-glory if things tumble in the right direction.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Andrews, Markuson, Sinon finish WSC boys track action with flourish
GENEVA—Kaneland boys track ended its Western Sun Conference tenure on a nice note this past Friday in Geneva.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Lady Knights softball spends 16 innings in 2-1 win over Sycamore
KANELAND—Kaneland softball got more than it bargained for this past week.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Soccer takes regional opener with 2-0 knockout
AURORA—Better the second half than not at all. A scoreless first half for Kaneland soccer in the semifinal of the Class 2A Rosary Regional had the 15-2-5 Lady Knights flummoxed against the fourth-seeded Aurora Central Catholic Lady Chargers.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Bailey UWP-bound
"I have an advantage coming from knowing the playbook; we run that offense at Kaneland,†said WR/DB Ryley Bailey.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Kane Coroner indicted for misconduct
Kane County—A Kane County grand jury on Tuesday indicted Kane County Coroner Chuck West on five counts of official misconduct, each a Class 3 felony.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Guest Editorial: May is Mental Health Awareness Month
At times, having a mental illness leads you to feel that your life is hopeless.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Letter: Thank you for supporting library plant sale
Thank you to everyone in our community who supported the Friends of the Town & Country Library 7th Annual Plant Sale fundraiser, May 7 and 8.
- Posted May 20, 2010
Letter: Frasz deserves our thanks
On Tuesday, May 11, members of the Kane County Board voted to remove the county ban on video poker machines in the unincorporated areas of the county.
- Posted May 20, 2010
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Economic efficiency
An economic system is usually said to be relatively more efficient than another under one or both of the following conditions:
- Allocative or Pareto efficiency: any changes made to assist one person would harm another.
- Productive efficiency: no additional output can be obtained without increasing the amount of inputs, and production proceeds at the lowest possible average total cost.
These definitions are not equivalent: a market or other economic system may be allocatively but not productively efficient, or productively but not allocatively efficient. There are also other definitions and measures. All characterizations of economic efficiency are encompassed by the more general engineering concept that a system is efficient or optimal when it maximizes desired outputs (such as utility) given available inputs.
Old Theory[edit]
There are two main strains in economic thought on economic efficiency, which respectively emphasize the distortions created by governments (and reduced by decreasing government involvement) and the distortions created by markets (and reduced by increasing government involvement). These are at times competing, at times complementary – either debating the overall level of government involvement, or the effects of specific government involvement. Broadly speaking, this dialog is referred to as economic liberalism or neoliberalism, though these terms are also used more narrowly to refer to particular views, especially advocating laissez faire.
Further, there are differences in views on microeconomic versus macroeconomic efficiency, some advocating a greater role for government in one sphere or the other.
Allocative and productive efficiency[edit]
A market can be said to have allocative efficiency if the price of a product that the market is supplying is equal to the value consumers place on it, represented by marginal cost. Because productive resources are scarce, the resources must be allocated to various Industries in just the right amounts, otherwise too much or too little output gets produced. (Thomas. Government Regulation of Business. 2013 McGraw-Hill.) When drawing diagrams for firms, allocative efficiency is satisfied if the equilibrium is at the point where marginal cost is equal to average revenue. This is the case for the long run equilibrium of perfect competition.
Productive efficiency is when units of goods are being supplied at the lowest possible average total cost. When drawing diagrams for firms, this condition is satisfied if the equilibrium is at the minimum point of the ATC curve. This is again the case for the long run equilibrium of perfect competition.
Mainstream views[edit]
The mainstream view is that market economies are generally believed to be more efficient than other known alternatives[1] and that government involvement is necessary at the macroeconomic level (via fiscal policy and monetary policy) to counteract the economic cycle – following Keynesian economics. At the microeconomic level there is debate about how to maximize efficiency, with some advocating laissez faire, to remove government distortions, while others advocate regulation, to reduce market failures and imperfections, particularly via internalizing externalities.[citation needed] It is important to note that most economics analysis is done by trained economists, who use limited equations and simplistic models to investigate the world that focus primarily on the financial values attributed to resources. This narrow view can often fail to incorporate the richness of non-financial values that exist in human cultures and relationships, as well as the non-financial aspects of nature's functions.[citation needed]
The first fundamental welfare theorem provides some basis for the belief in efficiency of market economies, as it states that any perfectly competitive market equilibrium is Pareto efficient. Strictly speaking, however, this result is only valid in the absence of market imperfections, which are significant in real markets.[citation needed] Furthermore, Pareto efficiency is a minimal notion of optimality and does not necessarily result in a socially desirable distribution of resources, as it makes no statement about equality or the overall well-being of a society.[2][3]
Schools of thought[edit]
Advocates of limited government, in the form laissez faire (little or no government role in the economy) follow from the 19th century philosophical tradition classical liberalism, and are particularly associated with the mainstream economic schools of classical economics (through the 1870s) and neoclassical economics (from the 1870s onwards), and with the heterodox Austrian school.
Advocates of an expanded government role follow instead in alternative streams of progressivism; in the Anglosphere (English-speaking countries, notably the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand) this is associated with institutional economics and, at the macroeconomic level, with Keynesian economics. In Germany the guiding philosophy is Ordoliberalism, in the Freiburg School of economics.
Microeconomic reform are policies that aim to reduce economic distortions via deregulation, and increase economic efficiency. However, there is no clear theoretical basis for the belief that removing a market distortion will always increase economic efficiency. The Theory of the Second Best states that if there is some unavoidable market distortion in one sector, a move toward greater market perfection in another sector may actually decrease efficiency.
|This article is in a list format that may be better presented using prose. (September 2012)
Economic efficiency can be characterized in many ways, e.g.,
- Allocative efficiency
- Distributive efficiency
- Dynamic efficiency
- Informational efficiency is used to characterize financial markets
- Kaldor-Hicks efficiency
- Pareto efficiency
- Productive efficiency
- Optimisation of a social welfare function
- Utility maximization
- X-inefficiency
Applications of these principles include:
Theory of Economic efficiency
Abstract:: we always think that is related to time. In fact, personal work of economic efficiency is only related to the person's individual ability, before the ability did not change, people work in the economic efficiency is a constant. This is just like before the mechanical structure has not changed, its mechanical efficiency is a constant.
Would you think the machine doesn't work, the efficiency is zero?Of course not. Also, you can know why people get the efficiency of economic benefits is certain.
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Efficiency = product/(input resources+ input labor + input tool )
It can refer to mechanical efficiency formula:
Mechanical efficiency refers to the ratio of useful work and total energy, expressed with symbols η is calculated as
η = W useful / W total * 100%
But for the working efficiency of the individual, we always think that is related to time. In fact, personal work of economic efficiency is only related to the person's individual ability, before the ability did not change, people work in the economic efficiency is a constant. This is just like before the mechanical structure has not changed, its mechanical efficiency is a constant.
A person working overtime every day, every day like a mechanical use, can only increase the output of him in a certain period of time, and can't make his economic efficiency.
The efficiency is the ratio of a person's output and input.[4]
See also[edit]
- ^ Economics, fourth edition, Alain Anderton, p281
- ^ Barr, N. (2004). Economics of the welfare state. New York, Oxford University Press (USA).
- ^ Sen, A. (1993). Markets and freedom: Achievements and limitations of the market mechanism in promoting individual freedoms. Oxford Economic Papers, 45(4), 519–541.
- ^ 4
4.Tan Lidong <The economics of happiness>, publishing house of China university of politics and law (January 2012)
Further reading[edit]
- Heyne, Paul (2008). "Efficiency". In David R. Henderson (ed.). Concise Encyclopedia of Economics (2nd ed.). Indianapolis: Library of Economics and Liberty. ISBN 978-0865976658. OCLC 237794267.


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CHENNAI: To rid eight districts of Tamil Nadu, known to be endemic to potentially life-threatening Japanese encephalitis, the Government will launch a campaign to vaccinate 24 lakh children in the age group of 1-15.
To be launched in Virudhunagar, Villupuram and Cuddalore as a 15-day campaign on Tuesday, the intensive drive will try to cover all the children in the age group. Over the past week, some cases of suspected Japanese encephalitis reported from certain districts sparked a sense of panic in the affected districts. It has been a source of worry for public health experts that Japanese encephalitis, as it is more commonly known, is 'endemic,' or occurs regularly in eight districts in Tamil Nadu. These districts are Perambalur, Villupuram, Virudhunagar, Cuddalore, Madurai, Tirunelveli, Thanjavur and Tiruchi, Joint Director of Public Health S. Elango told The Hindu.
Auto disable syringes would be used to administer the vaccine to children in special immunisation centres, anganwadis and noon-meal centres, he said. The vaccine, imported from China, is a live, weakened form of the virus, and is not known to have any side-effects. It will provide lifelong immunity against the disease, which is caused by the mosquito-borne Japanese encephalitis virus, from the family Flaviviridae. The transmission is through the bite of the Culex mosquito, but pigs serve as amplifier hosts.
It affects children, and is known to cause, coma, mental retardation, and even death. The State has not encountered Japanese encephalitis in epidemic proportions ever: there were a total of 18 cases, with one reported death; 17 'suspected cases' have been reported this year. Director of Public Health P. Padmanabhan said it was still very important to provide protection against Japanese encephalitis because when it affects people, the rate of mortality was 40 per cent, despite the best care. "Even those who recover, the children, might have to live with disabilities."
It has been identified that the problem occurs in different districts that have agriculture-intensive activities, especially paddy cultivation. "Paddy cultivation requires water to be stagnant in the fields for a long while. We tried drying the fields for a day to see if it could be done. But that is not practical. The only solution, therefore, is vaccination," he said.
A pilot project conducted in 285 villages in Perambalur, Cuddalore and Villupuram and using another vaccine had resulted in a drastic reduction in the number of cases. The vaccine would be extended to cover non-endemic districts too, Dr. Padmanabhan said.


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And if you must ask, I use different devices from different manufacturers, running on different platforms. Because I believe that what is best for one person, may not be the best for everyone.
Here are the latest phones I've reviewed this year
LG G3 - The Best Android smartphone in the market
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I know this is not a cooking group but this recipe has got to be known. It is the yummiest easiest chicken ever. You will be licking your fingers I got it from a friends kosher cookbook (cant remember which one, sorry)
this takes 10 minutes to prepare, I promise, so easy
2 chickens, cut into eighths
2 large beefsteak tomatoes cut into large chuncks
1 (8ounce) bottle of italian dressing , such as the wish-bone "Robusto" brand (or make it yourself)
1/2 cup fresh basil leaves
4 cloves garlic
5 sundried tomatoes, packed in oil
preheat the oven to 350 . PLace the chicken pieces skin side up, dont layer them, use 2 9 by 13 inch baking pans
In a food processer add tomatoe chunks, pulse to chop. Add dressing , basil, garlic, sundried tomatoes. Pulse to puree.
Pour all over chicken
Bake, uncovered for one hour and 30 minutes or until chicken is fully cooked and no longer pink
Guys, you will freak out when you taste this chicken. I like to make white rice on the side cuz the sauce from the chicken on the rice is insane.


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Why the hate over having to pay for a game?
I'm what you would call an original gamer. I started out on pong, and have been hooked ever since.
When I was a kid, I would mow lawns, pick up bottles and cans for the 5 cent return, wash cars, rake yards or do what ever I had to gain a pocket full of quarters and then ride my bike down to the mall, and plunk quarters into games till my pocket was empty after a fun filled Saturday afternoon. A bit later they swapped to tokens, and at times I would splurge on 5 bucks worth of tokens as you got an extra 8, and then I was good to go for 4-6 hours. Let me tell ya, in 1985 5 bucks was worth a heck of a lot more than it was today yet i was happy to spend it frivously at the arcade (Funny thats the average DLC cost)
I only got to play the game for that short time, and when my time was up, or better yet, all my lives lost, I was sent home to scrounge for money till the next weekend rolled around and i could enjoy everything from from Asteroids to Zaxxon and everything in between yet again.
Later i picked up cartridges for home consoles. Games like asteroids, and q-bert, and pitfall, lady bug, and later EA sport games and racing games on the newer systems, many were very basic, yet I didnt mind spending my hard earned cash cause playing games was so much fun.
But now, I see all the time, people outraged for having to shell out 5 bucks on some DLC, or how dare they charge 3 bucks for a costume, or 10 bucks for 10 hours of content, Ohh the outrage!! Why should I have to pay to play?
Personally I love gaming, and find the cost to be virtual peanuts in the grand scheme of things. I just hope in the FTP future of this game people do spend a few bucks of that hard earned cash, so that more cool things will come.
But my real question is why all the hate about having to shell out a few bucks for some entertainment? A single ticket to a movie costs 8-15 bucks depending where you are. And I never found a game I could finish for that price, that fast. Yet some how spending 5 bucks on something you finish in 5 hours is a complete waste of money. Even a 3-dollar magazine that takes an hour to read is considered a great deal.
I just dont get it. Can anyone enlighten?
Pay to Play = Standard MMO Subscription 15$ US Monthly
Pay to Win = Free To Play with Pay more for Slight Advantage
It's not that people are mad to pay to play, that's perfectly Normal, I expected to Pay-To-Play when I bought this MMO. It's the Pay to Win from the Asian Game Front that is stirring all the "I'm too cheap to Pay More" out rage...
money is not a big concern to me right now. im not rolling in it but ive got enough so paying for things does not concern me. i treat this like a hobby, instead of collecting warhammer figures, or building toy models i play games and some games cost extra money.
i can sort of understand that people pay a monthly sub and therefore expect that to cover everything, and perhaps it should but its like any business, if people will pay for it then companies will charge it.
the real world will try and bleed you dry and so will the world of computer games because people in the past have paid for it. end of the day for me, no ones forces me to buy anything. i buy because i want to, and i want to support a game that i love playing. the more money they make, the longer this game will last.
My concern isnt money DIRECTLY.
My concern is beeing forced to pay money for stuff that value is in no relation to its price but neccessary to continue, 870 CP for a respec for example.
I have no issues to pay money for ships, costumes, character slots... special BOs, pets (!!!!!accountwide!!!!!!!)... even missions.... even stuff like respecs for a RESONABLE price (and I still think 400 cp are not reasonable).
All depends on your point of view.
Years ago I was totally against the Pay to Play model. Then I finally agreed to try one out.
Now I have several MMOs under my belt...
Free to Play worries me...Not because of the so called "Pay to Win" mentality...It's the class of people that usually hang out with F2P games. Generally the community suffers...greatly. Chat channels are inundated with all kinds of crap...because hey...what do they care..They aren't paying...so they won't lose anything if they get banned.
Micro-transactions also used to bother me...but then I realized it's not so bad...as long as it's not over charged.
So far...I have yet to see anything that really is "Pay to Win" item. You don't HAVE to have certain things to win.
I know several PvPers that haven't really bought much from the C-Store and they dominate.
Yeah...some things from the C-Store are a bit...much....but in a F2P setup...how else are they going to make money?
All these Anti-Cryptic people are actually getting on my nerves...but hey...If that's how they want to spend their time...badmouthing everything "because they can" then so be it.
I am a lifer. I plan on staying. Am I happy with EVERYTHING Cryptic has done? I'd be lying if I said yes.....hehe
I couldn't agree with you more Lazer. I have been paying for games all my life and i intend to continue doing so. I don't understand the complaints myself. In my experience with this game, the C-store really doesn't give you an edge in my opinion. The only Pay to win issue i forsee is the ability of those with money to buy large amounts of dilithium and gain an advantage through that, but meh we can deal with that. T
The biggest thing i hope to see with the F2P edition is (and maybe this already exists and i haven't found it yet) is the ability to mute zone chat. Right now it isn't a problem but when it goes F2P it may become a problem on the level of the Barrens in WoW where you lose IQ points by simply reading it.
One of the things i think people forget when considering what a fair price is, is that we don't own that company. They as a company have a right to set their prices as they see fit and if we don't like them we don't have to play. On the same note, with all the complaints about changes to the game, again it is their company and their product, they can do as they wish and if we don't like it, we don't have to play. We should be greatful that they value our input as they have and allow us to play and give it. Alot of companies don't care what the end user thinks.
And all those people who are anti-cryptic, I find it interesting that you are so against the company yet you continue to support them by posting on their forums. Why don't you go do something productive?
Anyways those are my thoughts on those few matters.
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by Pepe7 - 6/7/13 11:51 AM
In Reply to: Need Help with a 2.1 Speaker Solution by aari5cnet
Along with that limitation, both budget and space constraints seem to be problematic in your case. I was going to suggest a very simple refurb HTIB. Airplay speakers are also on the expensive side, and generally aren't anything impressive/can't be separated physically (like a sound bar is fixed per se). Hmmmm.
OTOH, how about the audioengine A2?
Not certain though if input 'B' on the A2 would permit you to connect via 3.5mm output from your other devices.
I wonder if the D1 would be an additional solution, or something similar-
Will have to graph this out and think about it in a little more detail. Is there *any* way you can fit in a very compact HTIB rig(?) Would make things much easier, especially feature wise.


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From Stone Meadow Development: Written by the same mathematician who wrote the HP-12C financial algorithms, Calc-12E marries that undisputed computational heritage with the unique features that make the iPhone the premier tool for business.
- The mathematical backbone of the 12C extended to 15 digits of precision (displays up to 13)
- Bond calculations performed with 15 digit precision
- "Always on" display of the financial registers or the stack. When in bond mode, shows settlement and maturity dates
- Tap to email results. AMORT produces an Excel compatible schedule that sums interest and principal to the penny (an industry first and only). See it on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFSZvVri1_8
- Tap to access the FAQ page on the support site
- Tap to change date entry format or payment mode
- Click sound volume is adjustable without changing screens
- Backspace and UNDO
- Depreciation, linear regression, 2 variable statistics, date calculations, NPV and IRR
- 10 direct arithmetic registers, 20 total (always, they don't get used for programming)
- lightening fast, never ever wait for "running"
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- One of a pair of Disk ][ 5.25 inch external floppy disk drives for use with the Apple II computer.
These floppy disk drives were purchased by the donor in 1979. Each drive is marked with either a "1" or a "2" on a small green sticker on the front of the drive by the donor to differentiate between them.
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- Beige colured 5.25 inch external floppy disk drive with black plastic front and grey flat ribbon cable for connecting to the disk drive card in the computer.
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- Donation from Ms Lecki Ord, 2006
|96 mm (Height), 155 mm (Width)
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Coloured Apple logo transfer disk II, IN USE and associated LED lamp. In the top right hand corner is a small circular green sticker with the number "2" handwritten on it.
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I would say a high-tech-geek graffiti marking.... but hey, thats just me
The horribly slow AT&T network used by the iPhone?
Dat funny !!!
yet another new night club in North Dallas?
We need more of those! :)
They have night clubs in North Dallas? Wow, I need to get out more.
New logo for KDGE ?
I lame attempt at being hip and cool :-)
Dat not funny !!! :?)
so what is it?
Here's another clue...
I'm a little slow with this, but a clue-ier clue...
Keith Combs of the Microsoft Across America team hinted at it and then Eileen Brown , Evangelism Manager
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By Rich Heldenfels, Akron Beacon Journal, Ohio
Jul. 11–Teddy's Back. Singer-songwriter Teddy Geiger figures that his current stop in Northeast Ohio is his 10th visit, with gigs ranging from playing the Great American Rib Cook-Off and Music Festival to a show at 8 tonight at Cleveland's Agora. (Special guests are Hilary McRae and Scott Harris. Tickets are $16 through Ticketmaster.)
Asked about the difference between playing a rib festival and a historic music venue, Geiger dryly said, "Well, at a rib fest, the focus is on the ribs. . . . "
But this time it's music, and a lot of material other than what he offered on his debut CD, Underage Thinking.
Through his Web site (http://www.teddygeiger.com), you can hear and download 33 new songs. Fans also are invited to vote on their favorites. The top 11 or 12 will end up on Geiger's second CD.
Like the first CD, the new stuff is appealing. But Geiger, 19, said he has changed quite a bit since the first CD and his appearances as musician Wayne Jensen on the TV series Love Monkey.
For starters, he said, "I moved out of my parents' house. . . . I'm becoming an independent person."
Tonight's show will include three or four old songs and the rest from the 33, he said.
More Geiger. He also is promoting the new movie The Rocker, which stars The Office's Rainn Wilson as an '80s musician trying to live out his dreams as part of his nephew's band. Geiger plays one of the band members in the comedy, which had a sneak preview scheduled at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last night. It opens in theaters on Aug. 1.
This is Geiger's first acting job since Love Monkey, a 2006 series for CBS starring Ed's Tom Cavanagh as a music-industry executive. Geiger played a young musician working with Cavanagh and got to do several songs on the show.
CBS pulled the plug after just three episodes (of eight made), although VH1 later ran all eight. Geiger says he still meets people who know him from TV, but he didn't follow up with other roles right away.
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"After doing The Rocker, I feel like I want to do more acting. I figured out a lot about it, after spending a lot of time with Rainn and everyone."
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Not that it ever appeared the trial was about money or property. More that Brinkley wanted more public humiliation for her hubby, who cheated on the 54-year-old model with an 18-year-old.
The trial made Cook look bad, with a court-appointed psychiatrist calling him a "narcissist" who "needs constant reassurance that he is a terrific guy." But Brinkley was not unscathed; that same psychiatrist said she needs therapy to deal with her anger and "her choice of male figures."
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This could be just the sort of spark that the series needs to keep it fresh! Being set in a completely different time period and focusing on a drastically different culture could open up a lot of opportunities for the series. If you thought jumping from rooftop to rooftop while hunting your victims was fun, imagine what it will be like in the trees of densely wooded areas.
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"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." Dark Helmet
Originally posted by lizardbones
To me, the primary issue isn't whether the game environment makes people more likely to behave this way. It's that the way the game is setup makes it more likely to attract people who *already* behave this way, and it gives them all the necessary tools to engage in that behavior, while providing limited if any tools by which other players can punish or deter that behavior. What are the primary punishments and deterrents to severely anti-social behavior in the real world? Death and/or imprisonment. A game where death isn't permanent removes that as an effective punishment or deterrent, which leaves us with imprisonment. Now this particular incident involved going outside the game to behave poorly, so it wouldn't directly help in that case, but some form of in-game prisons could severely reduce the in-game occurrence of undesirable behavior, to the point where many of the inherently undesirable people would remove themselves from the EvE community, both in-game and out.
Basically my point is that any game which wants to lay claim to providing a "virtual world" needs to allow for both crime and punishment, not just crime, because going halfway isn't realistic in the slightest, and for the vast majority of potential players, it isn't fun either.
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Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play.
Im not a bad person, although I did pop transports in hi-sec, and I really do hate scammers having been a victim of them.
But, I finally just finished the whole thing and all I can really say is...
I miss EVE
"I understand that if I hear any more words come pouring out of your **** mouth, Ill have to eat every fucking chicken in this room."
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Joined: 1/21/07
I am surprised nobody has brought up the notion that the whole thing was staged. I am on the fence whether or not it is.
Eve has a very VERY fine line to toe regarding what is bannable griefing and what is scamming within the parameters of thhe sandbox. I am glad its not me who has to make the call because for me I could see the ban / don't ban going either way and calling it fair.
Though in general, scammers could use a good punch in the gut. Eve needs bad guys but I don't personally think scammers are the type of bad guys it needs. Warlords like mittens and pirate corps like the orphanage unite the community to defeat (or join!) The douches. But scammers operate docked and safe and funnel their money to other toons. So they're hard to retaliate against which is why I do see how the behaviour could be considered bannable
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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Gaming should be about fun, not gender equality.
Originally posted by itchmon
Problem is that this is not just about scamming. If it was then the scammers would have left the moment the guy gave them his stuff. This is about humiliation and sadism. The people doing this are clearly psycopaths and it does not matter that the guy being scammed is stupid/gullible. Since when is that an excuse for sadists and other scum to torture and humiliate them?
And CCP making money of this makes them as bad.
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Joined: 3/15/06
Originally posted by Dihoru
So you're saying that we need to excuse the pathological and sociopathic things people do in the game because of the things that the community have done as a baseline level of human concern? "Oh, it's ok that we have people in our game that torture others, because we sometimes ostracize people who try to get other people to commit suicide, and when thousands die, we actually feel bad."
Sorry, but those do not excuse the first. Civilized and socially well-adjusted people are supposed to do these things, you don't get bonus points or get to excuse the psychopath Erotica 1 because of them.
Ending your post with a passive-aggressive insult and an obvious attempt to cast me as inferior just so you can help your ego feel superior does not help your case of EVE players being friendly and socially well-adjusted.
'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.
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Joined: 3/09/08
I thought about the story
now either the player was some noob with less than 1 -2 months play time or it did not happen
nobody plays eve for more than 2 months and has no knowledge of the scams
now I know there are some scams which can still catch a experienced player off guard but giving a stranger full access to your assets is asking for trouble no experienced player would do such a thing
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Joined: 11/30/11
Being a EX Eve scammer, there are plenty of moments where common sense should sink in but it doesnt. The one i used all the time in the past was
"ill Double whatever money you give me" The victum would generally give me afew small amount at first to make sure i was legit, however would give in to greed sooner or later and drop a ton of ISK on me. To which i would just fly away.
We used to have corps join our alliance and we would arrange them liquidating their assets for us to build them better ships, and then we would just fly away with everything they owned.
Welcome to EVE, most scams are easy to avoid if you use some sense
Because i can.
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wow so all ive gathered since my last comment is people actually feel sorry for this guy being scammed . So people should have no personal
Responsibility in society?
Teala is exactly right here and its idiots like this that keep scammers in business to begin with. I cannot and will not feel sorry for stupidity and honestly if the guy loses his stuff and figured out it was a scam cussing and raging then he should of just accepted it and got out of speak. He chose to continue to be tormented in hopes of getting his stuff back. I do not condone behavior like this and the guys doing it no less deserve to get their asses beat down but sometimes people here seem to forget what personal responsibility is. I watch it on the news all the time people doing stupid stuff and then expecting to sue whoever or whatever business because they got hurt. Blaming CCP for the actions of some idiots and some excuse my french but some dumbass guy is pretty ridiculous and some of you here need to rethink things a bit more seriously. They skirted the rules and so did the guy being scammed so CCP is not liable for this mess. This guy learned a hard rule in life , there are pricks out there that will try and get under your skin and scam you. Be smart about it and not let it happen again. Just like I tell both my kids all the time if someone bullies you in school knock em the hell out .
Originally posted by Rayshe
And what is a person (like the victim in this incident) is incapable of using common sense for variety of reasons? is it still ok to scam and dehumanise that person even though you know he suffers from speech impediment, PTSD, anxiety and all other kind of mental and psychological issues?
If you see someone like that who is incapable of taking acre of himself is being harassed and laughed at in public..will you just walk by and ignore it or will you do something about it?
Bad things happen because good people don't do anything about it. And anyone with a little heart would support this guy and try to help him out..i know i will.
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Originally posted by cronius77
No, re-read through. It has nothing to do with him being scammed. They had his stuff and continued on. Assets are not why most people are upset. He was tormented. What enabled him to be tormented was the thought of possibly getting his stuff back. 45 minutes in, it should have ended. But emotional attachment and mere possibility of regaining something was enough for Erotica to suck him back in. Claiming Erotica 1 didn't know what he was doing is a lie. You push someone over the edge and they do something stupid you bear some of that responsibility in my opinion.
Had these two been in the same room someone would have got hurt. Erotica 1 pushed him to the breaking point. Not a dam thing funny or entertaining about that. He didn't come out of character. He kept pushing him the whole time up until the very end. Not once coming out of character to say "Hey this got out of hand! Time to stop." I think this is the most damming thing for any defense he has. People act as if no one can listen to the recording.
Was what Erotica 1 did all that bad? I think that is a better defense if you are going to try and defend him. Was it his responsibility if another person can't control himself? Just because I deem a person stupid doesn't mean I can or should break them. Every human is breakable. Just have to know the right buttons to push or correct moment in time. Some are easier than others. I think this shows either a lack of empathy from people or the lack of understanding the situation?
What should CCP do if anything? No idea. I know that if one gets punished they both should. But it's not my call.
Edit: I don't know.. Sorry I just I've seen this to often in real life. People broken and pushed over the top. Some bad stuff can happen when that happens. It can ruin lives. The fact that I listened to it happen in a mini game that someone made up as part of the meta for a mmo. It bothers me. I love Eve and the fact that CCP don't cave to the mainstream. I love the lawlessness of Eve. I even laughed a bit as Erotica 1 mocked the outrage going on in that thread. I'll be quiet on the subject. I've posted to much in this thread I think. I just know exactly what Sohkar went through because I've seen so much in person. It's not funny and shouldn't be funny over a video game.
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Yes, now let's make it sound like the victim was mentally disabled. He is, according to his own statement in the recording, an air traffic controller, do you think they let mentally disabled people do this job? Seriously...stop trying to make excuses for the guy that got scammed. He screwed up. He was greedy. He fell for a scam in a game that is well known for scamming. Unless this guy was just a couple of hours old in game and never heard of EVE before, he might not know, but even then I find that hard to believe, especially since people are ragging on scammers in trade hub locals constantly and warning others to not fall for the scams.
As I said in a previous post, this guy knew it was a potential scam going into it...go listen to the recording. He knows he has fallen for their little scam and yet he continues to play along. Nobody is torturing him and forcing him to continue - except his own greed.
Then, listen to him in the last few minutes of this recording. He starts going off on a racist tirade, cussing, threatening people. This is the kind of person you want to defend? I don't care if he is ex-military...there is no excuse for that type of behavior. Do I feel sorry for him? No...he is suppose to be an adult. He is playing a game made for adults. He is making choices.
As for your comment, bad things happen because good people don't do anything about it. This guys own greed and stupidity put him into this situation...not good people. He did this to himself.
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I think I understand your point, I just don't think it's a functional solution. In game jails are game play. They enhance the game for the players on both sides of the equation. They do not curb or shape behavior in the game. The other problem is that most humans past the age of eight or nine in Western cultures aren't obeying the rules because of the consequences. They are obeying the rules because they either agree with them, or they believe in the idea of rules being necessary or good. If jails are in the game, then they are just going to be part of the game play. The "offender" isn't really taken out of the system.
The behavior that is offensive here isn't behavior that's acceptable in the game or in the real world. I'm not talking about the scamming. That's an acceptable norm in Eve's game play. I'm talking about tormenting the other player, with the intent of driving them away from the game. That is not acceptable behavior within the game or in the real world. That behavior is also a oddity. Most players would not do that. They would scam, steal, kill within the context of the game, but because that is how the game is played. Anyone playing it should accept those things as the norm. For Eve players, they are "fun". It's the other stuff that isn't acceptable.
It's also in the real world where the punishment, if there is any should be taken. I don't run Eve, so I don't know what they should do. I would consider being suspended from the game an appropriate response, and removal from any elevated positions within the game as well, such as player councils or the like. Of course, they need to make sure the whole thing wasn't staged, that there weren't additional circumstances surrounding this event, etc. Mostly, they would just need to make sure that the people are actually Eve players and that the events actually happened at all.
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i do agree that when you sign up to play eve, you are basically consenting to let people try to take your stuff. and that is part of what makes eve so engrossing. but one thing that i think would be nice is for there to be some way of counterattacking the scammers. Since every other form of "douchery" in eve has an in game counter.
some way to eject them from being docked would be particularly hilarious. though pains would need to be made not to let the system be exploitable to make non criminals get ejected from stations.
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You don't have to be mentally disabled to be incapable of making sound mind decision. Any kind of anxiety and PTSD disorder is enough. People like him suffer from sever mood swings and can easily harm themselves and others. On top of that he suffers from speech impediment. (which i am sure he didn't have from birth. I have seen a lot of marines developing this problem).
But that doesn't mean he is incapable of doing his job. What kind of decent human being would enjoy the misery and de humanisation of such an individual? do you know the amount of mental tolls it takes on a person when he tours Iraq?i know because i did one tour myself and that was enough for me to put a bullet in my brain after the things i saw. And he did it twice.
Yes he went on racists rant and got abusive but that was after almost 2 hours of mental harrasement (he even apologised for it). Erotic 1 knew the kind of person he is dealing with but he continued to enjoy it. I will write in cap for you... IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT SCAMMING. Its about laughing and enjoying at cost of suffering of a fellow human being.
You are incapable of understanding the deeper issues i am afraid. Stick to complaining and ranting about video games in your blog. That is what you do best.
This is a great representation of the PvP Community as a whole. All PvP players love and enjoy watching others suffer. That's why they play these games not for "skill". I couldn't be happer to have them no where near me in any MMO I play. They can call PVEers carebears all they want I call them caring and sane Individuals.
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Don't give me this, he has PTSD and unstable and is an air traffic controller...you can't be an air traffic controller and have those types of issues - it isn't allowed - period.
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Stop making excuses for this guy. He messed up. He fell for the scam and he did it because he was greedy.
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I dont even understand what happened there. Why would he give all of his in game assets to some random people?
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Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
i do not think anyone in this thread supports this guy being tormented for two hours nor do i think she is not capable of understanding deeper emotion. Some of us though here feel that personal responsibility needs to be also looked at here as well. The guy was greedy and got scammed then harrassed , and instead of accepting it he played their game allowing them to have complete control over here. If the guy is incapable of seeing through stuff like this he needs parental controls on his computer seriously. No one is also condoning bad behavior on the part of the scammers in all honesty im probably harsher thinking then most here as I would love to see each of them get their jaws broken and suck out of a straw for about 6 weeks but thats just me and I will not get into that. People just need to realize here that things like this would never happen if it was a profitable venture on the part of the scammer. I see people on the official forums of games all the time complaining about how their accounts were hacked and when you get to the bottom of it they vaguely admit to buying gold or giving out their account email etc to scammers. Im not bashing the victim either here, I do feel bad for the guy somewhat but at the same time I know that a scam like that you would never in a million thinks people lack enough common sense to actually fall for that sort of thing. CCP isnt to blame here, the scammers are for sure but lets be honest if that sort of thing didnt work they wouldnt be doing it therefore the person being scammed lacks common sense to give all his stuff away.
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Yes because i am sure he wrote in caps that he suffers from PTSD on his resume. Most of the ex marines do not even get proper treatment or support and thus mostly go un noticed. You don't know and i don't know under what circumstances he got that job. And people with PTSD are fully capable of doing their work.
I bet no one harasses him for 2 hours continuously at his job so that he snaps like he did while in game.
The moment he mentioned he was marine and did two tours..that should have been enough to make them stop. That was a red flag right there. I haven't met one fellow marine yet who did not suffer from post traumatic disorder because it is very common. Its the degree that varies. So i don't need you or anyone else to tell me that he didn't have PTSD.
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DarkKirby2500 posted...Rook_the_Ranger posted...Fairy is the new dragon. It's OP, but doesn't have the best abusers.
Kyurem's ability is Pressure. He's talking about normal Kyurem.
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Imagine how much better Clefable would be if it actually had good stats.
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