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User talk:NeilN/Archive 5
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- 1 Regarding my recent post about Muhammad, boycott of Bano Hashim more specifically:
- 2 What I'm saying is:
- 3 Genealogy and Nobility
- 4 Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Geogre-William M. Connolley
- 5 Van Morrison GA review
- 6 Thanks for your help
- 7 A request for help!
- 8 Assistance with repeat Vandal IP 188.8.131.52
- 9 Hi Neil, this is a request for assistance.
- 10 Spider-Man
- 11 TfD nomination of Template:911ct supporters
- 12 Which do you disapprove of adjectives or good Wiki writing style?
- 13 Rita Jenrette COI tag
- 14 Pfizer criminal charges
- 15 Rita Jenrette sourcing issues
- 16 Thanks...
- 17 Calgary Cerebral Palsy Association
- 18 High Activity
- 19 Warnings
- 20 Barnstar!
- 21 Another Comment from Me I'm Afraid!
- 22 Critically acclaimed
- 23 Abkhazia
- 24 my change
- 25 so how does a publication makes its way onto a page anyhow?
- 26 thanks for feedback
- 27 Rodney Lough, Jr.
- 28 Canton
- 29 Heh
- 30 porno
- 31 Dax Landes High School
- 32 Re
- 33 Wikicookie
- 34 Editing Help
- 35 AfD nomination of Irish goodbye
- 36 Robert Riddell
- 37 Coyote
- 38 I didn't did
Regarding my recent post about Muhammad, boycott of Bano Hashim more specifically:
I added some text on the page Muhammad and you removed it by saying that there was some copy right issues. I posted the material because I myself am the original author of the text. It was no doubt published on www.al-mawrid.org but the site is run by myself and the text is my writing. What is the policy regarding this particular case? Regards, Tariqhaashmi--yamaan (talk) 17:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
What I'm saying is:
You don't get to block someone for three hours, and hang around in hope that they'll say something reaaaaaally bad and progressively lengthen out to block. ESPECIALLY after that 2nd block.. where the incivility was aimed at him. We get told flat out "If some one is saying incivil things to/about you, that does not give you the right to block in return". It should be made by a neutral administrator. Wikipedia blocks by one administrator are not like progressive slots, with greater payouts. I just wish he had protected Giano's page after the 2nd block. Geogre still would have unilaterally undone the protection (at least this way no one can argue that the administrator who protected the page was biased in the whole thing). And needless to say, he (WMC) SHOULDN'T have wheel-warred the block back in without taking it to AN/ANI. Hope this explains my thoughts. SirFozzie (talk) 00:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. I have two issues here. First, "hanging about" may not exactly be accurate. I don't know how William works, but if I'm involved with an editor, that editor's talk page goes on my watchlist. I often do vandal fighting and keep watch even after they're blocked. If I noticed they've replied then I go check it out to make sure more disruption isn't taking place (e.g., refactoring of my comments). Second, does that neutral admin policy only apply to established editors? Because I've seen times where a block of a vandal results in an attack on the blocking admin which results in the block being lengthened by the same admin. This makes sense to me, even only from an efficiency point of view. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 00:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Genealogy and Nobility
I am not sure whether I am addressing this issue in the correct way here, but as I see you have been critical of the approach of one Hullaballo Wolkfowitz, who has dismissed my credentials as a widely acknowledged expert on nobility and royalty, and succession law in particular, merely because (he says) I publish my own web site on this. That is precisely why those who are experts in this fielkd consider it authoritative, becauas for many years I have written extensively on this subject, I have published dozens of articles and have been elected to the Royal Academy of Heraldry and Genealogy in Madrid in recognition of this. Wolfowitz, as far as I can determine, has absolutely no expertise on this and has merely dismissed what I have written as if the facts surrounding the birth of a living person are merely matters of opinion. In the case of the Boncompagni-Ludovisi family, its history and genealogy are extensively published and Prince Nicolo, the person in question, is identified in every genealogical reference source published since 1941 that includes this family as the heir and now head of that family. How is this controversial? Stating that someone "claims to be" something is ipso facto disputant; there is an automatic legal presumption that a person is the lawful child of their married parents which goes back to Roman law.
I would repeat the same point I made and which this Wolfowitz took objection to; if Wikipedia is to achieve a reputation for reliability and authority (still for many people, a matter of question) then it cannot allow people who have self-evident personal agendas to promote, the opportunity to edit in this way. I dpicked up the reference to Boncompagni-Ludovisi in an unrelated search but when I examined the history of changes to this entry and the discussion of the title I was astonished at what this person was doing, when he clearly has no basis for pretending to authority on this particular subject. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GuyStairSainty (talk • contribs) 16:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Geogre-William M. Connolley
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Geogre-William M. Connolley/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Geogre-William M. Connolley/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 02:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Van Morrison GA review
Any idea how long this process might take once it is nominated? I would regret not being available for any corrections, etc. that might be requested since I have all of the source material (biographies specifically) listed in the article. I can't be positive though that I will be able to participate during the last 2 weeks of July. I'll let you decide when it's ready to be put up for nomination, just wanted to make you aware of this possibility. Thanks, Agadant (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help
Everything's going great, setbacks only make us (and the article) stronger in the long run. Have added over 30 new references and have a few more just to make sure. Next time around, (several weeks away at least) the article will be "dang near" perfect. (At least in comparison to other GAs.). - and what more can an editor do than that?) Agadant (talk) 18:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
A request for help!
Hi there, I realized I was about to engage in an edit war, and I'd rather not to do that; I remembered that you're a helpful and experienced user. I'd love to get your help on the issue I discuss at the bottom of the Oakland, CA article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Oakland%2C_California. I feel certain that the other user here is wrong in making POV claims on a barely relevant page, but I'd like to bring in outside help. Is there somewhere I can post on Wikipedia that will encourage objective parties to help? And would I be right to revert this user's edits? Thanks! Eeblet (talk) 07:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Assistance with repeat Vandal IP 220.127.116.11
I rarely report vandals, preferring instead to send them a polite note and leave them be. In this instance though this is an IP[[1]] (or two? [[2]]) that has a history of unconstructive edits, and recently making more (e.g. 1, 2, 3). They are consistently reasserting their poorly written and factually incorrect edits for [biodegradable plastic]] and it's becoming very tedious. I've tried reasoning with them, but they are not being reasonable. I am having difficulty getting responses from admins, and you had previously assisted me on a similar matter, so I thought it appropriate to bring it to your attention. Cheers Halogenated (talk) 01:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Neil, this is a request for assistance.
You may not remember the guidance you gave when I posted an article about Mark A Lindquist last month. The article has been severely edited and I am a little confused. Not only the format, but the contents have been greatly altered. Have the changes been correctly applied, am I free to return to the article and replace missing information? One example is the location of works of art that I have cited. There were approx 20 locations. These have been edited down to approx 4 locations. Why? I don't want to be rude to the editor that removed the content, but if 4 locations are acceptable, why not the others and why were those chosen as acceptable. Maybe I don't understand the concept of the Wikipedia encyclopedia, but I do want to create and maintain a factual and accurate page that falls under the requirements set forth by the site. If you would be so kind to review the changes made and let me know if my page was that poor or out of touch with the requirements I would be greatly appreciative.
Also, if this is not the appropriate forum to request your help, please let me know and direct my attention to that place!
Paul Jaruszewski, DDS
Paul Jaruszewski (talk) 05:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hi there Neil, I am the one who pruned Mark Lindquist (sculptor). Paul and I are discussing it at User talk:Nancy#Slash and burn on Mark Lindquist.- do pitch in if you feel the urge. Cheers, Nancy talk 10:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Dang Nancy, you get around fast... Neil, Just to let you know that Nancy has been helpful and at this point I have no material gripe about her or the handling of the page. I suppose my ire was more related to being protective of a first-born page that I tried hard to get compliant with WP. Will come back whining at full volume if Nancy turns out to actually be a red capped pirate, but I think she and I will get along fine.
Paul Jaruszewsk, DDS
22.214.171.124 (talk) 20:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC) 184.108.40.206 (talk) 20:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
OK Guys, this is the last time I try to sign with 4 tildes... It's me... Honest... Who else could spell that name... - PJ
18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello. :) Since you have been involved in editing the article Spider-Man, I wanted to let you know that we have nominated the article for "Good Article" status. You can view the review page, and if there is anything you can do to make the article better, please do so. :) There are a number of concerns to be addressed and some work to be done, so pitch in if you are able, make any suggestions that you think might be helpful, or at least just be there for moral support. :) BOZ (talk) 01:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:911ct supporters
Template:911ct supporters has been nominated for deletion by Ice Cold Beer. As this TfD nomination includes objections to the same list of people that is currently in use in Template:911ct, I am inviting you to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. (I am sending this message to you as a current or former editor of Template:911ct, following the guideline on multiple messages.) Regards — Cs32en 08:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Which do you disapprove of adjectives or good Wiki writing style?
The risque, sensationalistic, bawdy content of her interview is the thing Rita Jenrette is best known for. The opening section, even the opening screen, doesn't give any indication why she is best known for this interview. Why are you opposed to describing it as risque? The reader may decide, but the reader needs a hint before page 2. G&E (talk) 18:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think the phrase "and her accompanying semi-nude pictorial" gives the reader an idea :-) How about "She is most famous for the frank interview..."? --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 19:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Rita Jenrette COI tag
I left the COI tag on because several sections of the article, even in the form I reverted to, were originally added by Jenrette, and because she's removed or prompted the removal of other text. She's been involved in editing the article for some time; the issues aren't entirely recent. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Pfizer criminal charges
Actually, Pfizer did indeed plead guilty to a felony criminal charge. See [3] among other sources. Superm401 - Talk 18:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not disputing that. The first sentence of the category is "For inclusion in this category, a person must:". Pfizer is not a person. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 18:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Pfizer is a person under the law. Please see Legal person or [4] . Superm401 - Talk 18:52, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
How about using the Corporate crime category? --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 19:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- This works for me, though I still think we could include legal persons in Category:American criminals, since the actual law does. Superm401 - Talk 04:12, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Rita Jenrette sourcing issues
I really think your edit this morning was incorrect. The only sources cited on the disputed issues regarding titles are self-published, and not allowed under under WP:RS generally or under WP:BLP's stricter requirements. There's no question about Ludovisi's own website being self-published (or for that matter not meeting the independent 3d party standards); chivalricorders.org is self-published by Stair-Sainty, has not been shown to meet any exception to the general bar on Wikipedia use of self-published sources, and hasn't been otherwise used (presumably for those reasons) as a source in other Wikipedia articles. As I commented on the talk page, I've taken pains to phrase the relevant text in accordance with what appears to be the consensus approach in other articles on similar individuals (as I cite on the talk page), and none of Jenrette's friends/partisans/whatever have provided anything that indicates that the consensus aproach is inappropriate. I also think it's interesting that, after I raised the issue with regard to what the Congress of Vienna supposedly declared, even Stair-Sainty appears to acknowledge that Jenrette herself is not entitled to the title she claims. For all that a few guys are throwing insults around and muddying the waters, this remains a sourcing issue, and the lack of reliable independent sourcing remains conspicuous. I don't even see enough of an issue to open a discussion on the RS noticeboards so far, but I'm ready to discuss it there if you think otherwise. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:46, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, I've asked the reliable source question here on the Royalty WikiProject noticeboard [5]. If we can get an answer, either yes or no, or get more viewpoints, then hopefully the article reverts will stop. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 17:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
...for the revert on my user page. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 12:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Calgary Cerebral Palsy Association
Hello Neil,
I feel quite offended when you have on the note that the website link that I tried to post is a "spam" website. This link is to a non-profit association to help people with Cerebral Palsy. In my opinion any information that people can get about this is condition is always better that none. Do you have a suggestion in which I can put this link somewhere else?
Duc Gnourt (talk) 09:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
High Activity
NeilN, Srinivas has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Srinivas 12:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
I see that you actively edit Hyderabad, India. I am really impressed. Continue you edits in such an enthusiasm. Anticipating a reply, --Srinivas 12:56, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
You do lot of editing with Twinkle, so you can request rollback rights. Please reply here and place {{tb}} on my talk. --Srinivas 13:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Hyderabad, India is on my watchlist so I examine most changes when I'm active. And I received rollback rights about 18 months ago - I prefer using Twinkle's revert in most cases as it automatically opens up the user's talk page in another browser window. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 14:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Thank you ever so much, I'll look for a relevant barnstar for helping others!
P.S Please do check my latest case, where I did follow your advice and give a friendly message: User_talk:22.214.171.124
Limideen 15:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
|The Helping Hand Barnstar
|I guess I'm not that new a user, but I couldn't find any others that fit helping others like this one!
Limideen 15:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Another Comment from Me I'm Afraid!
Regarding your latest comment on my talkpage:
- Aaaarrrghhh! I think I might need to take a break of this.
Sorry if these all seem like excuses, but I honestly was going through a long list of possible vandalising edits, and the one above or below must have needed the npov warning! I will attempt to locate which one it was, but it might be impossible.
- I will remove the npov warning I sent accidentally immediately, and look deeper and further in my next vandalism warning(s)! I hope we continue to fight vandalism together, and hopefully, soon, we will completely stop the vandals!
Limideen 15:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Critically acclaimed
Hey NeilN
Do you want to edit this into the article then? Would mean more than me tackling it further..Thanks for your support. IMO without the critically acclaimed the entire sentence has to be re-written. All the best, Agadant (talk) 13:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Why is information that is critical towards the topic that I am editing continuously being deleted? Is it fair that people write that my people committed "ethnic cleansing" against a much larger population but that I am not allowed to counterargue this with factual proof aired on live television of the opposite being the truth as well? When is this juvenile attitude going to end? Circassiankama (talk) 17:17, 16 September 2009 (UTC)CircassianKama
Dude, a TELEVISED LIVE NEWS REPORT is not enough evidence for you??? I can find other sources that can back up what is obviously a captured image of a GEORGIAN HIGH RANKING MILITARY MAN speaking on TV about massacring an entire nation if you like. But are you kidding me? That's really not enough? Or do you just not want me to post that little tidbit altogether? I suppose it's ok that Georgians can write about a ragtag army of over 70k committing mass genocide against a population of 250k? (which is astounding considering the fact that the majority of that group actually FLED ABKHAZIA before Georgian troops invaded Abkhazia proper, (AGAIN, another fact that can be easily verified)).
Is Wikipedia neutral or "neutral" towards the issues it wants to be?
Circassiankama (talk) 17:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)CircassianKama
I find your words very interesting. So, basically it's about the "wording" of the aforementioned "proof". So, if I come off as neutral and harmless, and without bringing forth any type of provocative evidence, then I'm all good to go? I noticed a couple of citations that are clearly youtube videos, how can you justify those?
As for your comment about the Georgian thing.....obviously, it won't be that easy to find articles that clearly state that. My intent here is that you can see this happening through the actions the Georgian people have taken up against the minority groups living in their artifically drawn borders. I should probably also mention that Abkhazians are not the only groups being oppressed by Georgians.....hmmmmmmmm.......I will find some "verifiable" links speaking of Georgian mistreatment of their non-Georgian neighbors and put them on the page and pray that they stay there to provide some balance to this horribly biased page.
By the way, I was wrong about the "general". He was actually a former defense minister. Does that strengthen my point at all? If this is not seen as "Georgian intent" then how can these obviously Georgian revisionists write such villifying comments about Abkhazians on the ABKHAZIA page and be allowed to get away with them?
P.S. Sorry about the minor edit thing, didn't mean to annoy you. Just didn't really think that these changes were such a big deal.
Circassiankama (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)CircassianKama
Neil, I get what you're saying, but what does that have to do with this though. All I'm providing here is a link to a youtube video of a Georgian government official/general who went on national TV to say he wanted to murder the entire Abkhazian nation. What my argument here is that if pro-Georgian cats can use this page as a catalyst to "prove" that a ragtag poorly equipped milita that was 4 times smaller than the Georgian army could find a way to ethnically cleanse that many people....then I can also provide a COUNTER-ARGUMENT in the form of a video of a Georgian official who only confirms what most people believe: that the Georgian invasion of Abkhazia happened because the Georgians would not tolerate the Abkhazians asking for an expansion of their rights (you know that this is why they invaded, right?) and that this was an intention of theirs.
Now, when you say that you are trying to abide by Wiki's guidelines and what not, I understand. That's fair. But what are you using as "proof" of the "neutrality" of this article? You are aware that the West is undeniably pro-Georgian due to the US's intention to expand its influence in the region right? And that this is on a larger scale a competition for power and influence in the region between Russia and the USA, correct? Are academic writings enough to use as a counter-argument...or does proof only have to come from "specific" sites like CNN, NBC, and so on?
Here we are left with a number of questions left unanswered. This is why I have also proposed having a locked page of Abkhazia for those who believe in the ABKHAZIAN (isn't this an ironic thing to say?) argument of things. If pro-Georgian people insist on projecting their revionist stuff on that page, then we should at least be allowed to have our view on here too, especially in light of the rise of Wiki's popularity in past years. It's unfair for people to try to learn about this topic to come here and learn a very narrow-minded, bigoted, and in many ways, incorrect view of Abkhazia. I just find it odd that Abkhazian history and issues written by Georgians can be allowed, but an Abkhaz tries to come and explain their own history and is rebuffed because their own viewpoints are "unpopular". Get my drift here?
I am finding this tiring in a way because it's really not something I want to do in my spare time...but these people need to understand that their crap is not tolerated by those who actually were born and come from the region. I would imagine that we would know our own history better than those who are trying to surpress it. Why do you think we have issues with Georgia? It has nothing to do with Russia. It has to do with us wanting to be left alone.
Sorry, I went on a bit. But hope you get why I'm upset.
Circassiankama (talk) 12:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)CircassianKama
my change
i`m new and they didn`t change my article oes that mean that it was a really good edit or what
thanks i say hi and boo
so how does a publication makes its way onto a page anyhow?
i was disappointed to see the references to 365antigua.com were removed. this may be considered spam but since we were the sole media outlet that docuemented the latest CARA festival, and cover different events weekly, how does this differentiate us from other media outlets such as the observer or the sun.
but i was doubly disappointed since all edits were removed. as someone who has lived here for years with my Antiguan family, i can attest that the edits made were accurate.
i am new to wikipedia, so i am curious to know if someone simply undoes edits, is that the end of it?
and if placing an information source on wikipedia is considered spamming, then how did the observer or the sun manage to make its way onto wikipedia? please advise.
thanks for feedback
i totally get your point on self-promotion. and the example about NYC is valid. the reality on the ground is antigua the country is quite different than NYC. this is one of the main reasons for the initiation of 365antigua.com. with the implosion of one of the dailies here in antigua, there is a desperate need for community communication. communication in antigua is very disjointed.
wikipedia not recognizing online information sources is, is behind the curve. print is extremely expensive down on this small island so to only recognize print is to disregard valid tools used by antiguans.
i am curious as to why all the other edits were removed. i realize the 'twinkle' app is a catch-all, but to suggest the edits were vandalism is pretty inaccurate. frankly, the edits i made: replaced dated content, (arguably) corrected incorrect information and added content that should not be omitted.
not knowing the ropes around here (but being someone who adds content to several other online sites), is there a lot of undoing of content with a 'twinkle' ? is it standard and should i get used to it ? or when it happens, just accept that someone else is going to continue to dispute my content as vandalism and therefore give up on adding content in those areas?
please advise.
the vandalism suggestion came directly from the TWINKLE app who's purpose is to undo vandalism. i realize its a catch-all.
as far as citing points made, its pretty tough to cite things like what Antiguans eat. unless you eat here and see what people eat and what is for sale at roadsides and restaurants... the cuba education could use cites, but frankly, since it wasn't already in place may be the reason for this. the problem with antigua is things are very poorly docuemented and information is archived. not even on the news publications. only until recently have the dailies had sites that provide good information that stays up.
i'll give it another try with the editing of content. there may be times though that we may need to cite from 365antigua.com not because its a plug, but because it may be the only source of information that is available to cite.
our goal is to bring Antigua into the rest of the world for internet content and communication. for many years Antigua has been (often purposely) kept cut off from from the outside world. (did you know VOIP phones are illegal here?). so we have a big job to do. bear with as i muddle through wikipedia to add content about Antigua. what's presently on the page is not up-to-date or entirely accurate. and lots of important information is missing. thx.
Rodney Lough, Jr.
what you call an edit war, we call telling the truth. it seems to us that you guys are simply in a mindset that whatever you want to say about rodney lough is OK, well it is not. you site rule after rule after rule, but then when rules are followed (citation needed as an example) you ignore them or say that YOU don't think there a valid source and then site another rule. really, piss off NeilN. No other photographer that we can see has had this amount of content edit by you editors (and most of it has been wrong!), why is it that this page has gotten so much attention? Oh, please site some more of your rules for us.....We have asked for help in editing the page so that it can be accurate on numerous occasions but do not get any offers to do that - instead you spend your time figuring out which 'rules' you plan on enforcing today. Wiki is in a lot of press of late because it does not seem to be stating fact within the articles, simply opinion - so why is it you think your opinion is worth so much more than that of the horses mouth? here's an example - removing a statement about getting a camera at the age of 12 because it cannot be 'citation needed' is absurd. petty, you are all very very petty. And when you don't like hearing what we think you send veiled threats to have us blocked? OH watch out wiki is going to block us - really that's sooooo intimidating. BTW it appears that you have edited the article more than 4 times w/in a 24 hour period as well, consider this your warning as well - look in the mirror first next time, before you cast the stone! 188.8.131.52 (talk) 14:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- This user has been blocked but a couple points: 1) Almost everything in the article has been sourced so everything is verifiable. No inaccuracies have been pointed out. 2) Editing the article 4 times in 24 hours is perfectly fine. Reverting or re-adding removed material 4 times in 24 hours is not. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 14:56, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Look, it's one person against not just everybody, but historical fact (that the kettle called itself "black kettle" when speaking in the pot's language). It's not my intention to call it vandalism, but that is just what UW Error Level 3 was determined to be. When it gets to that level, it's beyond simply content dispute or edit warring. Also, it isn't just mechanically the third level. His/her tone and logic also send him/her on the way to a permanent ban. The rest of the world has let him/her rant long enough and nobody has struck out his Talk comments. HkCaGu (talk) 17:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- I understand what you're saying but L31 believes the info to be correct so, basically, he's trying to correct your incorrect info, and not deliberately introduce incorrect info. As for his tone, if he doesn't dial it back, a report to WP:WQA will be in order. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 19:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
And I was just saying to someone yesterday that no one had tried to kill off Johnny Depp lately. [6] That's what I get for speaking out of turn. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:41, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think half (most?) of today's current celebs would be dead by now if the vandals had their way. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 21:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
You continue to add a photo of your erect genitals to the wikipedia page "scrotum". What you do not understand is that, unlike you, others do not want to view them and, like in the real world, you should keep them to yourself. Jcool5 (talk) 10:14, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
- A picture of a scrotum is not porno
- They're not my genitals
- As I've mentioned before, WP:NOTCENSOR
- Get consensus on talk page before removing again --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 13:20, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Dax Landes High School
Hi Neil,
I am guessing from your contributions you are a deletionist, so I fully declare myself an inclusionist.
I am not sure why you listed Dax Landes High School at WP:PNT, and shortly thereafter another in Armenian and another in Spanish. I am sure you do your homework (I looked at the other two) but this one was so short that it would seem to be obvious to go SPEEDY as, effectively, no content.
On all of the French: Dax Landes High School, the Spanish: Loteria santa lucia and the Armenian: Gladzor_University you seem to have SUBST the PNT template, which is a surprise to me as have been called, a little too flatteringly, a "PNT reg" (admittedly in the context of how badly I had done a translation, or if it was worth the bother at all!) Is this deliberate or how did it come about being there? Usually it is just transcluded, not subst, or at least it was.
The French article I have translated but expect will go prod if not speedy as it is a single sentence with no references. The Spanish might possibly have legs and I will do a rough translation, my Spanish is not great. The Armenian looks also likely for speedy just on length i.e. essentially no content. I repeat, I am an inclusionist, and I am more than happy to wait for content to be added, but these seem thrown in almost without thought, and I would not object to a deletion.
Best wishes SimonTrew (talk) 23:55, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Simon. This was my first time WP:PNT so apologies if I screwed anything up. School's are inherently notable (even stubs) so I'm really hesitant to CSD them even if they consist of a sentence. As for the substs, I simply did what the template told me like here [7]:
If you have just labeled this page as needing translation, please add {{subst:Needtrans | pg = Loteria santa lucia | Language = unknown | Comments = }} ~~~~ to the bottom of this section of Pages needing translation into English.
Did I do something wrong? --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 00:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not sure why the Armenian Gladzor University would be speedied as there was a fair amount of Amenian text in there. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 00:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- It may be simply my false memory, with the subst. I just can't remember seeing it there before (but I have been working mostly on Hungarian articles that have not gone PNT and so not had those tags, the side-effects of having a Hungarian gf I am afraid, I do the fixup and she does the translation. Works quite well.) The fact it struck me as strange tends to indicate something is awry, since from what you put I would agree with you, you did nothing wrong.
- On a more general note "did nothing wrong", of course not I accept you listed in good faith and also technically you are probably correct, I dunno. I simply have it on my watchlist and if an article on a language I can translate, even roughly, I do if for nothing else than give others who may be more qualified in the subject but not in the language to decide better than I can if it is worth keeping. By the way, the Spanish article I have rough translated the first para and you may wish to take a look to see if you think it is worth translating more, and add your comments at PNT or, if you prefer, to myself. It's not so long that I can rough translate the rest as well, but it will be rough (but probably better than Google, which I have not used.)
- I should have added before I checked your user contributions and saw delete, delete, delete etc. I am sure this is necessary and valuable and everyone must edit in his own way, and I don't just assume good faith, I know you have it. As I see it, PNT is almost a last resort because it means the contributor has through ignorance or deliberate attempt not to ask for a translation at one of the many many pages and projects that allow one to request it. Many do then get deleted for simply having no backup, though people try to google etc. to find matching text, sources etc so as not to COPYVIO and so forth. You did the right thing by listing at PNT if you were unsure, since it is kinda the last resort before the dustbin/trashcan, but much as I dislike saying it, if your judgment is to delete it, I think your judgment is likely sound, whether you can read the text or not, you can use other criteria such as its length, references, categories, etc., and you seem a good judge of that.
- The Armenian I cannot really comment on because I can't translate that at all, but under the criterion on length certainly worth listing. The French one, which caught my eye just because I tend to translate shortish French PNTs simply to give others an idea what to do with them, I would say definitely goes SPEEDY. I found no links at all for it on Google (it is in English now so you can try if you want.), nor relevant links for the acronyms on English or French Wikipedia. The Spanish (Guatamalan) lottery one, I've done the rough translation of the first para and you can look and judge and I would suggest add your opinion at PNT though I am more than glad to hear it first if you are unsure. I can rough translate a bit more if you want. SimonTrew (talk) 00:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- Glad to hear I didn't mess up the PON listing. I always find it interesting coming across the less well-known nooks and crannies of Wikipedia and seeing how they work. Regarding the all the CSD's - it funny you say that as I haven't worked on the new page patrol in quite a while before this weekend. If you look further back you'll see a bunch of dab work and prior to that, standard anti-vandalism reverts. There's always something different to do around here.
- As for the articles, Dax Landes High School is up for prodding and I agree with that as admins will likely not speedy a school. Gladzor_University seems to be fully translated and kept. As for Loteria santa lucia, I found an English reference and added it to the article. As national lotteries usually get media coverage I would say there are more Spanish references out there and the subject is notable. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 20:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
oh i didnt know that im sorry Saturn star (talk) 16:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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I don't know how to word this correctly, so I am just going to swing a a verbal club around and see if I can hit you with it. How do I put references on pages? The type of reference that gets put in the reference list, a external link that gets put it in the reference list. Please tell me you understand what I am asking.... --DroKIDCASH (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I do understand why my artical Beanie Baby Princess was removed. What I dont understand is why you didnt offered me any help in correcting it. I am learning disabled. I have gone thru many years of school to learn how to read and write. Its not the best by far but I know the point of the artical is 100% correct and it needs to be seen by the public. A direction on how to make it your way would be nice. You have seen my artical many times please come back to help me this time and not warn me. Thank you for your time.Lovablehearts (talk) 06:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
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My apologies; obviously I mistook the last useful version and went back too far. I do think your version is useful as long as it's not that of the non-notable individual whose biography overwrote it, and I'm happy you noticed the difference and restored the most appropriate version. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:12, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- No problem, I thought that was what had happened. FYI, the replace-revert scenario has been going on for over 2 years now. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 16:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
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I am not doing so, it is other user who did that with the map. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
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I would feel weird being Mrs. So-and-so to my friends' kids - it seems too formal. But I would also feel weird having my kid call my friends by just their given names without explicit persmission / preference on the adults' part - too presumptuous. So this seems to me to be a good balance between friendliness and respectfullness.
We don't do it.
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Do your kids call you by your first name? Their grandparents, too?
"Auntie" is just a term of endearment, it's not a means of oppression.
I really despise the ariticial boundaries set up between adults and children by forcing these things.
Children are already powerless. Adults hold all the power. So why make there be special titles.
All my good friends are referred to as aunt and uncle and vice versa. I lived in South America for awhile and there any friends your parents' age or older was Tia or Tio whatever. Also DH's family is from India and it seems to be similar there I think. And most of our friends have parents from countries where this is the case as well, so we all have just fallen into the habit.
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Garalon is pretty interesting, but so boring for a tank!
I love the Blade Lord's tornadoes and I am also a big fan of Elegon's floor.
Everytime I hit that fight on LFR I ask "Is this anyone's first time doing this fight?" and get silence. Then, 3+ people will plummet through the floor the first time.
Oh Force and Verve is my guilty pleasure. 1) I love the name of the ability (I cant explain why because I have no idea why I love it) and 2) I love watching people dart for the shields
Will of the Emperor dancing, Attenuation, Vengeance on Wind Lord Mel'jarak (kinda counts ;D), Stone Guard tanking, Feng extra buttons, Gara'jal banishment for a tank...
Just, in general this tier has been very solid.
I like Elegon. You have to play really well as a raid to kill him the first time (of course it gets easier and there's not that much RNG). ToES was a little bit to easy to really like the bosses. I think you like the bosses most which you wiped a couple of times and then killed him
I like Lei Shi "Get away" mechanic.
ANd I absolutely despise Garalon. It is as bad and retarded as Ryolith.
I agree, the Sha of Fear is great
this is my first time raiding as a lock and tbh, its the locks mechanics that have made this fight so much fun. i use demonic gateway every chance i get. for example i love vizier zor'lock. demonic gateway to transition from platform 1 to 2, then pre-placed demonic portal to transition between platforms 2 and 3. never having to run through the mist is awsome!
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Exception - Recruiting for 25man heroic progression
Dodging combo's on Emeperor was really fun, and a nice way to keep Tanks occupied throughout a fight, more of that please. Also I quite like the idea behind Garalon, but obviously it has room for some polish
Imperial Vizier. Big retard check overall.
I also like heroic Amber Shaper, it's decievingly easy but relax for 1 sec and you wipe the raid!
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Amber shaper heroic, good fun mechanics and extra damage buff - what more could you want!
Despise Sha of fear heroic. veeeeeerryyyyy long fight that doesn't get hard until 10 minutes into the fight yet still has 1 shot mechanics.
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of what i've fought so far, I'd have to give it a tie between Bladelord tornadoes and dodging the attacks of the last boss in MSV (as tank). Seeing the special button light up and clobbering him is so much fun when you're competing with the other tank to see who can get them all.
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I enjoy Amber Shaper's 'Reshape Life.' I mean who doesn't like to be turned into a yellow monster.
I'd have to say Elegon and he floor. Cunt friend of mine playing a priest life gripping me a few seconds before the floor goes away and i fall xD
I still enjoy heroic Zor'lok attenuation : )
Tsulong, lei shi, Zor loc, and elegon
My favourite fight is probably Elegon, for a bunch of reasons, but my favourite mechanic, as a healer, is the Tsulong day phase/breath, because I am a meter whore.
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The Guardian and the Washington Post shared a Pulitzer Prize on Monday for reporting on leaks from former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden that revealed a global secret surveillance network monitoring millions of Americans and foreigners.
The celebrated prizes, awarded by Columbia University, are the most respected in United States journalism and can bring badly needed attention and recognition to newspapers and websites suffering from economic pressures and budget constraints.
The British and American newspapers won the award for public service journalism handed out by the Pulitzer committee at Columbia University in New York for sparking debate on secretive NSA programs. The awards evoked a similar situation in 1972 when The New York Times was recognised for publication of The Pentagon Papers, leaking details of United States political and military involvement in Vietnam.
Reporting on the leaks not only sparked international debate over the limits of government surveillance but prompted US President Barack Obama to introduce curbs on the NSA's spying powers.
The US unit of the British newspaper was honored for "helping through aggressive reporting to spark a debate about the relationship between the government and the public over issues of security and privacy", the committee said. It recognised The Post for its "authoritative and insightful reports that helped the public understand how the (NSA) disclosures fit into the larger framework of national security."
The shared award went to the two newspapers credited with breaking the news about NSA surveillance programs, without specifically citing the journalists involved. Both newspapers relied on documents leaked by Snowden, a fugitive former NSA contractor who has been granted temporary asylum in Russia and is being sought for prosecution in the United States. Russia granted Snowden temporary asylum last year after the US Justice Department charged him with violating the Espionage Act.
The reporters who played key roles in the story included Glenn Greenwald, who has since left the Guardian, and colleague Ewen MacAskill. Barton Gellman, who already has two Pulitzers, was the writer of most of the Washington Post reports.
Laura Poitras, a documentary filmmaker who was the point of contact for Snowden, had the unusual distinction of sharing bylines in both the Guardian and the Post on the topic.
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In arguably the most influential story of the decade, The Guardian and Post broke sensational ground by exposing how the US government monitors the data of millions.
The NSA leaks embarrassed the government, strained relations with allies angered that Americans had been tapping into the private phone calls of leaders and sparked a debate within the United States on the merits and morality of mass surveillance.
Sig Gissler, administrator of the Pulitzer Prizes since 2002, said the choice was complex and that the prize was "really not focused on Mr Snowden". He said the two newspapers "helped stimulate this very important discussion about the balance between privacy and security and that discussion is still going on".
Snowden, in a statement released to The Guardian, said the Pulitzer decision "is a vindication for everyone who believes that the public has a role in government".
The Guardian said: "We're extremely proud and gratified to have been honored by the Pulitzer board. It's been an intense, exhaustive and sometimes chilling year working on this story and we're grateful for the acknowledgment by our peers that the revelations made by Edward Snowden and the work by the journalists involved represent a high achievement in public service."
Post executive editor Martin Baron said the reporting exposed a national policy "with profound implications for American citizens' constitutional rights" and the rights of individuals around the world.
Republican congressman Peter King, a member of the House intelligence committee, meanwhile expressed his disapproval on Twitter, saying: "Awarding the Pulitzer to Snowden enablers is a disgrace."
Boston Globe, NY Times also win
Among the other Pulitzers, The Boston Globe staff won the breaking news award "for its exhaustive and empathetic coverage of the Boston Marathon bombings and the ensuing manhunt that enveloped the city, using photography and a range of digital tools to capture the full impact of the tragedy".
The New York Times won awards for breaking news photography and feature photography.
Tyler Hicks was recognised in the breaking news category "for his compelling pictures that showed skill and bravery in documenting the unfolding terrorist attack at Westgate mall in Kenya," the committee said.
Josh Haner won the prize for feature photography for a photo essay on a Boston Marathon bomb blast victim who lost most of both legs.
The Pulitzer for investigative reporting went to Chris Hamby of The Center for Public Integrity "for his reports on how some lawyers and doctors rigged a system to deny benefits to coal miners stricken with black lung disease, resulting in remedial legislative efforts".
A second Pulitzer went to The Washington Post and Eli Saslow for explanatory journalism for reporting on the prevalence of food stamps in post-recession America.
Jason Szep and Andrew Marshall of Reuters won the Pulitzer for international reporting for coverage of the Rohingya, a Muslim minority in Myanmar, who in their efforts to flee the country often fall into the hands of brutal human-trafficking networks.
"For two years, Reuters reporters have tirelessly investigated terrible human-rights abuses in a forgotten corner of the Muslim world, bringing the international dimensions of the oppressed Rohingya of Myanmar to global attention," Stephen Adler, Reuters editor-in-chief, said in a statement.
Szep, from Washington, said: "What we were writing about was under-reported. I hope through this, there is greater international attention to the risks and presence of religious violence in Myanmar."
Reuters was also a finalist in the investigative reporting category for a series by Megan Twohey, which exposed the underground market for adopted children. Her work won praise for "triggering governmental action to curb the practice" of exchanging unwanted kids online.
The fiction award went to Donna Tartt for her novel "The Goldfinch".


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Two Houses and a Private Boat Dock are included with this property, which sits right on the lake, and is nestled in the woods. Deer, songbirds, and other wildlife make frequent visits, and a large brick patio makes the perfect spot for viewing some stunning sunsets.
The Main House:
The Master Bedroom in the Main House is enormous with a king bed, fireplace, sitting area, private bathroom, dressing rooms, and an entire wall of windows overlooking the woods and the lake, and a flat screen television w/Cable.
The Guest bedroom in the Main House has a Queen Bed and sleeps 2. It also has a private bathroom, flat screen television w/ Cable & DVD.
The Office in the Main House is bright and cheery with computer, printer/fax, internet, and a nice relaxing view of the woods. WiFi and cable television is included throughout both houses.
The Kitchen is fully equipped with an electric stove, and small double oven, dishwasher, refrigerator/freezer, disposal.
The Great Room in the Main House features two sitting areas, a fireplace, the dining table, a flat screen television, and a wall of windows/sliding glass doors that allow a spectacular view of the lake, and exit to the unique brick patio on one side.
The 2nd Story of the Main House features an entertainment area with a flat screen television, board games, an open sleeping area with 11 twin beds, 2 Queen Beds, a sitting area, and 2 Full Bathrooms.
The Guest House (included in rental of Main House):
The Guest House features Plantation Shutters, a Pool Table Room with a small deck, a Fireplace, Flat Screen Television, surround sound system, Mini Refrigerator, Coffee Maker, microwave, and wine cooler.
The two Bedrooms on the first floor in the Guest House feature King Beds, Ceiling Fans, and a flat Screen television with Cable/DVD.
The Second Story in the Guest House features two bedrooms and one Jack-and Jill bathroom with a walk-in shower. One upstairs bedroom has a King Bed, the other has two Queens, both have a flat Screen television with Cable/DVD.
The Guest House also features one full Bathroom done entirely in mirrors.....a room with a view?
A Large 3 Bay Garage is accessed from the Guest House. Also in the Garage is a full sized freezer, full sized refrigerator, a sink, and two washers and dryers.
The Private Dock has one 8' X 31' slip available with the rental. The 2nd slip (10' X 31') is used for the family boat, but can be rented with advance notice and an additional charge.
The Dock also features a swimming cove or bring your fishing poles and fish off the dock!
Kayaks are also available for guest use. Sneak out early in the morning for a peaceful paddle along the shoreline.
Family was the focus of this home, which offers a basketball goal, volleyball, badminton, four square, ping pong table, and swimming from the water trampoline and private dock.
Plenty of parking space allows for easy access by multiple families.
This Property is close to Har-Ber Village Museum, two golf courses, only miles from shopping, dining, live entertainment, and just across the lake from Shangri La Resort.
Grand Serendipity, LLC was established to ensure the longevity of the Westby Family Lake House. The previous owner, Gerald H. Westby, Jr. wanted the home to remain available as a place his extended family could re-create the wonderful times he shared at the lake as a child. Mr. Westby Passed away in July of 2012, with the desire this home would be enjoyed, and fond memories would be gathered for many, many years.
The house was set up for rentals beginning in June of 2013.
Shawna Sims purchased this house in 1950
Bring your family and friends and enjoy a private, relaxing, or fun-filled stay at this spacious property with a unique blend of comfort, sophistication, art & nature in a lakefront home on beautiful Grand Lake of the Cherokees, Grove, Oklahoma.
There are two houses and a private dock included with rental of this property.
The Main House, is a two-story home which has a full kitchen, unique, spacious master bedroom, and guest Bedroom. Both the master bedroom and the living area feature a fireplace, and a full wall of windows overlooking the woods with a spectacular view of the lake.
The 2nd story is set up in an open camp-style sleeping quarters with two full bathrooms and an entertainment area. Just perfect for children or large families.
The Guest House features four private bedrooms, two full bathrooms, a game room with pool table, and a 3 car garage with full-sized washer & dryer, ping-pong table, full-sized refrigerator and freezer.
Rental of this property also includes the use of a private boat dock (one 8' X 31' slip available) located in a private cove with swimming area.
The expansive lawn features picnic tables, a basketball court, volleyball net on the lawn, badminton, and four-square.
This location looked great as a mid-point meeting place for my relatives in northern Missouri and myself. Wow...we got so much more than just a meeting place!!!! Everything from the beds...to the linens...to the amenities...to the breathtaking views were all TOP NOTCH!!!! The attention to detail is apparent in every facet of this property. It's beautiful, fun, private and relaxing.This is a fantastic rental properties and far exceeded my expectations. It was the absolutely perfect place for family to unwind and reconnect. Our only problem was trying to figure out WHEN to schedule our next visit that will include MANY more relatives...we can't wait!!!
Our group was 16 and this place was the perfect size and offered everything we needed. The pictures are accurate and show what a nice place it is. It was great to be able to enjoy the outdoors & the lake as well as watch NCAA basketball games. We also enjoyed playing ping pong, pool, and basketball. We ate all our meals at this facility but the city of Grove is close if you want to eat out (or get groceries).
The first day of our stay, AT&T accidently cut the DSL line so we were without internet for a while. I'm thinking this was due to construction in the area and doesn't happen very often. The grills are charcoal only (so come prepared) and starting to show their age. Also, the kitchen is fully furnished but we had an issue with ants. We kept our food sealed tight so it wasn't a problem.
The manager (Shawna) was very nice to work with and the instructions/directions were accurate. Like most lake front properties, it is easier to find the first time during daylight. We would highly recommend staying at this facility. We had a great weekend spending time together!
Our family grew up vacationing on Grand Lake and we were so excited to find this beautiful home to rent! It was a perfect setting for our family reunion. Everyone had a fantastic time. The house was fabulous, it had everything we needed and provided many activities for young and old. Of course, the water trampoline was a big hit for everyone. Kayaking, ping-pong, volleyball, and just sitting on the lovely patio and enjoying the lake were some of the activities we enjoyed. Special memories were made here, and we were not disappointed in anything. As a family we voted, and we will definitely vacation here again.
This was the 3rd property that we have rented from VRBO and as usual we were not disappointed. This property is beautiful with lake views surrounding it. The large patio is great for a crowd, lots of large flower pots around the perimiter and a firepit in the center. There were 15 of us, 8 adults, 5 teenagers and 2 children. The 4 bedrooms are very nice, we loved the master - private and quiet with its own entrance. The kids enjoyed the huge dorm room which includes 2 baths and a sitting area. There is a basketball court, volleyball net, ping pong, pool table (that was a big hit with the teens). We all enjoyed the private swimming cove with trampoline. The 3 kayaks provided were also fun.
We had access to a boat so the boat dock was a plus. One day we went by boat for a 10 minute ride across the lake to parasail at Sail Grand. (However, if you do not have boat access they will pick you up).
There are many restaurants close by. We went to The Parrot one night, it was close and very good. Reservations are recommended if you have a large crowd.
This property is very clean and well maintained. The pictures are very accurate. We couldn't have asked for a better manager-Shawna was so helpful. This trip was a Christmas gift to our children and grandchildren and she provided brochures for us to put in Christmas cards.
I do suggest that if you are not familiar with Grand Lake or the area it would be best to come during the day as it might be a little difficult finding in the dark.
We are planning a return trip for next year!
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My favorite thing to do was to sit out on the patio each morning and enjoy the view and nature with my coffee. We had several fires in the fire pit outside and roasted marshmallows a couple of times. They even had fire starters available which proved to be quite handy since all the kindling and wood was nice and wet from the rain.
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Our stay included three nights and four days. The home was beautiful and very comfortable. Location at the lake was amazing. The home is equipped with plenty of inside and outside recreation. Facilities were all in working condition, and our stay was very enjoyable. Look forward to returning.
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Jinzang wrote:One of the best ways for ego to hide is to think it has achieved enlightenment, or more modestly, a small taste of enlightenment. Tai Situ Rinpoche has called this "unidentified flying ego." The best way of dealing with this is through meditation. Sit down and let whatever thoughts that happen, happen without attempt to change them. Make no distinction between enlightened and unenlightened thoughts, do not try to prolong or dismiss them. But watch everything. As far as you can, be aware of every thought that passes through your mind.
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DarwidHalim wrote:Does your view of no I reject appearances?
Do you feel balance between the diversity of appearances and no self?
What is the difference of your view about no I and nihilism?
tuddel wrote:For now i would like to close this topic.I have to observe more and will come back if i have some more understanding.thanks to everyone who has helped replying.
Jinzang wrote:I didn't mean to imply any criticism of you in my remarks. I was speaking generally and if I left the impression that you have an ego problem or are claiming enlightenment, I sincerely apologize. I wish you the best of luck in your practice. If you continue to have questions I think it would be best to find a teacher you can speak to in person. Failing that, you are welcome to post your questions on this forum and I and he other members will do what they can to assist you.
tuddel wrote:One risk is that one could easily fall into a type of dull-state-- where the normal vibrancy of life is not sharp
I highly agree with what you said.And i am noticing them but not sure how to get out as of now :p
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tuddel wrote:my experience is quite nihilistic now and i am observing more to see how to be in a better place.thanks
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Hmmmm ..... kindness and love for everyone and everything doesn't arise right now?
kirtu wrote:tuddel wrote:One risk is that one could easily fall into a type of dull-state-- where the normal vibrancy of life is not sharp
I highly agree with what you said.And i am noticing them but not sure how to get out as of now :p
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Are you in an actual dull state? What is it that you want to get out of?
Usually these kind of states mean that you have had a deep meditative experience. As others also said I would be reluctant to say more than that. It could be a very positive thing actually (or it could be negative too). But also these states usually just dissolve by themselves although they can last days (at least for me). I think I had one lasting a week. But it also began to dissolve after a few days but took a while. They *can* really alter your perception positively. If you remain in a kind of quite place it might persist a long time though. Go out with friends. Go see a movie (I saw Deep Impact straight from a retreat in a state like this and started having reactions to the suffering in the movie and the suffering of the people around me). If you live in a quite place go to a vibrant place (NYC is perfect but you might be too open to people too and could be taken advantage of so go with friends). Or do something very physical like working out. But avoid really intimate situations. Work for most people is not really sufficient to get out of this because work is kind of dulling for a lot of people just in how it's structured (if you really like your work then it's not dulling). Unfortunately a lot of this depends on you.
Dechen Norbu wrote:The experience you're having is not that uncommon, even if I can't be exactly sure of what you're trying to describe. So I'll make the assumption that you had an insight about the empty nature of the self. When we treasure something a lot and then realize we lost it, we tend to get a bit disoriented. This is what happens when we realize, at least to a certain extent, the the self we grown attached to is, after all, a mirage. One of the reasons why it is good to have a solid background is that when the time of gaining an insight about the empty nature of the self comes, intellectually we already see it as an illusion that harms us. I'm not sure you did the homework on that part, but that's of no consequence now.
When you realize, or at least gain some insight, about the fact that the self is a mirage, an artifact born from delusion, you lose something but you also gain something. The less grip your belief in a truly existent self has upon you, the more free you become. After all your awareness is still there. Notice it. And that is not an illusion. Even if your idea of a self was a fantasy, your sentience is not. You are aware, and perhaps the only thing- the more "real"- thing you can experience, that doesn't need any confirmation and is unmediated, is that awareness and its potentialities. Seems to me you got rid of a fantasy while gaining potentiality. How's that a bad deal, especially if the attachment to this self is the biggest cause for our suffering? Perhaps instead of focusing on the emptiness side of the issue, now you should focus on the potentialities such insight entails. It seems a good endeavor at this point.
Note, however, that there's also a way to reify the self opposite to clinging. It's rejecting it, which is a reification by the negative (and it's quite depressing). Make sure such is not happening. Our mind can be so messy that without even noticing we can take some episodes by what they aren't. A healthy ego is a prerequisite to cut through our attachment to it. By this I don't mean you don't have one. But as you seem to have lost your feet a little, checking if we're fine can never hurt. Insight and progress are always a good thing (not from the perspective of those who cling fiercely to their idea of a self, perhaps). When they aren't, we must check why and if indeed there's progress or if we're biting just another fantasy of our own making.
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Chinese Capitalism and the Modernist Vision
Series: Routledge Studies in the Growth Economies of Asia
In the past fifty years, the experience of the Chinese economy has continually challenged the assumptions of laissez-faire economics. It has sustained a strong growth rate, changed the structure of international economic relationships and has become critical to many multinational corporations. Now,...
Published March 5th 2013 by Routledge