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Glass containers stocked with marijuana line shelves at the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo in September. Members of the co-op must provide ID, proof of state residency and authorization from a physician during each visit.
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Cotton candy infused with THC is available as an edible alternative to traditional smoking of marijuana at the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo.
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Leftover marijuana on a scale at the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo.
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Volunteer John Kelsey weighs marijuana. A piece of bulletproof glass separates the inside of the co-op from the visitors area.
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Volunteer Travis Shreven bags marijuana for a member at the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo.
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Volunteer John Kelsey grabs a container of marijuana for a member at the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo.
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Jeremy Kelsey runs the Medical Marijuana Patients Network in Mukilteo.
Initiative 502 would allow people 21 and older to buy an ounce of marijuana from stores regulated and licensed by the state, where it would be taxed at 25 percent.
Who would have thought that one of the leading proponents for the initiative would be John McKay, a former U.S. attorney who prosecuted major marijuana cases during his tenure?
Other supporters lack the tie-dyed shirts and Grateful Dead image often associated with the drug: a Spokane Baptist minister, a Seattle rabbi, the nonprofit Children's Alliance in Seattle, international travel guru Rick Steves of Edmonds, a former FBI agent and a candidate for King County sheriff.
For those who are opposed, one might well expect Pat Slack, commander of the Snohomish Regional Drug Task Force, to be an articulate and persuasive voice. He's participated in many discussions of the issue, including a televised public forum in Mukilteo and a debate at a University of Washington lecture hall packed with 300 attentive students.
Who would guess that he would find himself on the same side of the issue, though for different reasons, as Jeremy Kelsey, a 34-year-old owner of medical marijuana co-opin Mukilteo?
Even if the initiative doesn't pass in November, McKay said he hopes such efforts will help bring pressure to change legal policies toward marijuana. The federal government currently classifies pot as a Schedule 1 drug, the same category as cocaine and heroin.
Slack, who has worked for 43 years in law enforcement, seems to shake his head in wonder at the prospect of not only Washington, but also Oregon and Colorado considering marijuana legalization efforts on the November ballot.
"Is this a freaking race?" he asks. "I don't know if you want to be the first out the door to accomplish this."
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IMarijuana has a complex, controversial and polarizing history. It was characterized as a villainous drug in the 1936 movie, "Reefer Madness." Legalization proponents refer to it as "humanity's medicine."
In 1998, state voters jumped into the political cauldron, approving an initiative allowing doctors, osteopaths and naturopaths to authorize use of marijuana for terminal or debilitating conditions, including cancer, glaucoma and severe pain.
"It's been kind of a long evolution," said Diane Hoffmann, a professor at the University of Maryland's law school. She has studied the provisions of 17 cities or states that have passed medical marijuana laws, beginning with California in 1996.
With its Schedule 1 listing, the federal government considers the drug to have no medical value, she said. Yet some studies have shown that it potentially has therapeutic benefit, such as helping to stimulate appetite to combat the severe weight loss sometimes caused by HIV, and for reducing the nausea and vomiting often experienced by chemotherapy patients, she said.
Washington's law allowing authorizations of marijuana for medical purposes can be used as a legal defense, but does not provide carte blanche protection from investigations and other law enforcement actions.
Federal authorities have stepped in numerous times to shut down dispensaries in Washington and other states they feel may be doing more recreational dealing than medicating.
Last month, they sent letters to 23 medical marijuana dispensaries in Seattle, saying that any businesses within 1,000 feet of schools or playgrounds must shut down within 30 days.
Heath care providers have come under scrutiny, too.
In August, the state Department of Health announced that two King County naturopathic physicians face charges of providing sub-standard care for treating more than 200 patients seeking medical marijuana during Seattle's 2011 Hempfest.
Local law enforcement officials are trying to be respectful of people who have medical marijuana authorizations, Slack said.
But it can be difficult to navigate who is and who isn't complying with the law, raising questions such as: Can multiple medical marijuana co-ops exist in one location?
"I grew up in a world of law enforcement where they had a pretty bright line: If you have dope, you have a problem," Slack said. "All we in law enforcement want is for someone to tell us what the law is."
Passage of Initiative 502 he predicted, would be a nightmare for law enforcement officials.
But Slack said he also worries about the impact it would have on youth, since anyone 20 and younger could still be arrested for pot.
"Who's most negatively impacted by being arrested for possession? Our youth," he said. "It impacts their ability to get jobs and get college funding. Initiative 502 doesn't do anything for them -- nothing."
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Jeremy Kelsey runs the Medical Marijuana Patients Network out of an office in a two-story industrial building just off the Mukilteo Speedway and overlooking Paine Field.
The co-op stocks up to 20 varieties of bud with names such as "lavender X train wreck" and "Mr. Nice."
The dried marijuana leaves are stored on shelves in large glass containers, much like bulk herbs in a co-op grocery. He politely corrects those who ask how much it costs.
It's a donation, he says.
Nevertheless, he requests a donation of about $240 per ounce.
The co-op also offers marijuana to qualifying patients in a variety of other forms, including salves, drinks, lollipops and even marijuana-infused cotton candy.
Kelsey said he takes pride in running the co-op both in accordance with state law and in providing quality products to patients. His shop was declared the gold cup winner for medical marijuana collectives in Washington by what may turn out to be the industry magazine, "High Times," during a recent expo in Seattle.
Kelsey said he favors decriminalization of marijuana, what he calls "freeing the plant," but does not support Initiative 502.
"The problem is, they're putting the cart before the horse," he said. The first step, he said, needs to be federal reclassification, moving marijuana out of the same category with cocaine and heroin.
Many local governments have problems coming to terms with collective gardens allowed under the state's current medical marijuana law, he said.
Since federal law bans possession, manufacture and distribution of marijuana, he said he doubts federal law enforcement officials would simply allow the state do as it pleases -- legalizing limited, open purchase of marijuana for recreational use.
"The fact is, they don't have a letter from the feds saying they'll be in agreement not to shut them down," he said. Even if the initiative passes, the issue could be tied up in the courts for years, Kelsey said.
He questions where all the marijuana would come from to stock the state-licensed stores.
Will there be standards, regulations, guidelines -- even agricultural subsidies, as farmers get now?
While the vote on the initiative might be close, Kelsey predicts it won't pass.
Some people have compared the initiative to the ending of Prohibition, Kelsey said.
"It's not. It's different."
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It's hard not to wonder: What was the pivotal moment? What was it that triggered John McKay's pendulum shift from federal enforcer of marijuana laws, to outspoken critic, to endorsing an initiative to legalize it in Washington?
"I was sworn to uphold the law," he says. "I could enforce the law again. It's just a dumb law."
McKay served as U.S. attorney from 2001 to 2007. He currently is on the faculty at Seattle University's law school.
Despite the best efforts of law enforcement officers, the amount of marijuana that can be stopped in any one year is a relative trickle of marijuana -- valued at several hundred million dollars -- compared to the estimated $25 billion in street value of the drug that makes its way into the United States, he said.
"The No. 1 organized crime activity is marijuana trafficking as opposed to any other drug," McKay said. "The black market is dangerous and it's killing people."
McKay said he knew his endorsement of the initiative would upset some law enforcement colleagues.
"I had an obligation to speak out," he said. "I had information that wasn't in most people's experience."
McKay, 56, said he is not a marijuana smoker and won't smoke it if it's legalized.
Marijuana can be addictive and it "doesn't make sense" for kids to smoke it, he said. But he believes the initiative's plan to legalize, regulate and tax the drug is, like alcohol, a better policy than prohibition.
An estimated 14 million Americans regularly smoke marijuana, McKay said.
"It's clear to me the federal policy needs to change … to allow adults to possess some modest amount of marijuana and consume it if they wish," he said. "Marijuana prohibition is a failure."
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In the world today, it is rare for a person to stay in the same position, with the same company, for more than five years. While employees of earlier generations worked for the same companies for decades and decades, modern workers now frequently jump from job to job.
Because of this, the story of J.R. Carsten and his wife Patricia is particularly interesting. Carsten, owner Carsten Auto Cleaning Inc. in Springfield, MO, has been a full-time detailer for 49 years. He got his start in April of 1963. To put that in perspective, when the Carstens entered the detailing industry, John F. Kennedy was president and The Beatles were a young band releasing their earliest recordings.
Though the operation has had employees in the past, today the business is run as a "mom and pop" shop. In fact, Carsten said that Patricia has been involved in detailing almost as long as the business has been open. In the early days, when she noticed J.R. working late hours, a then-pregnant Patricia offered to come in and help out by washing windows. "Well, 49 years later she's still cleaning windows. The girl's never stopped," Carsten said.
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At the age of 17, Carsten began working for his father's used car business located in a shop owned by his uncle. Carsten and his father would travel to Wichita, KS, and buy cars, then tow bar them back to sell in Springfield. At first, his father paid him a salary to detail the vehicles before they were sold.
What did the typical detail consist of in 1963? There were a couple of other shops in town before Carsten opened his location. "They were charging like $14.50 a car, and that was for the engine, interior, trunk, exterior – the whole thing. So I thought, 'Well, I'll start out at $13.50.'"
Carsten recalled that he started the business with only a buffer and an old Hoover vacuum. The vacuum was actually a house sweeper that had a hose a user could connect, and it was pretty noisy. "It sounded like a screaming panther when you turned it on." At that time, the business didn't have a steam cleaner.
Older interiors were easy to clean because they either had cloth or vinyl seats. Doors had straight panels with no compartments; most just had an arm rest and a crank down window, according to Carsten.
The hardest part was probably the engine compartment, Carsten explained. Engines were cleaned using kerosene and a brush. After that, laundry detergent would be mixed with water in a bucket, and Carsten would then take another brush and scrub the engine down a little bit.
"Normally, after you cleaned that engine, they wouldn't start because they had the old point system," he noted. "So you had to take the distributor cap off, let them sit out and dry and put them back on."
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Today, Carsten uses a totally different process compared to 49 years ago. "I mean we are so advanced now, thank God for the intelligence of our people that know how to build this new equipment and all these new fine products that we've got to help make our work a lot easier," he said.
Though the couple is performing the same car care services, extractors, modern buffers and pressure washers have made the process easier. Specifically, Carsten pointed to a barrel buffer that has helped eliminate common buffer swirls. Also, the business uses a modern natural-fired pressure washer.
Chemical wise, the shop has a "standby" company that they call upon. Carsten noted that this company is his choice because they frequently take the time and spend the money to properly test products before release. In most cases, this company works to improve their products for a few years before they are introduced to make sure they work effectively.
"It's really pretty endless anymore about the products that we have, because we really don't have one product we use for all," he said.
Today, the shop's specialty appears to be dark-colored cars. "It's unbelievable the amount of dark-colored cars we do," Carsten revealed. "And I'll wet sand every one of those."
And, with all the modern equipment and modern practices, come modern prices. Carsten said a full-detail price at the shop currently runs about $285. But, this price includes "going from one end to the other."
Business then
Through the early years, the shop worked with a number of small car dealerships, and the couple would frequently clean between five and seven cars per week. "I mean you could kind of count on one hand about how many cars … you were going to get that week," Carsten remembered. "You might get one car on a Monday … then you'd deliver it to a dealer and you'd call around and nobody else would have one."
Still, in the early days, cleaning five to seven cars was a good week. Even at $13.50 a vehicle, by the time the couple bought groceries and paid bills, Carsten estimated that the family was making more money then than they are now. Especially since $6 would buy a week's worth of groceries at that time.
Another difference was the care that car owners showed their vehicles. "Detailing was not big at all back then; it was virtually unknown," Carsten said. "They'd go out and wash and wax their car under the shade tree in the summer time. And when they got ready to go sell it, they absolutely didn't take a dirty car to a new car store to sell it or trade it." This means most of the trade-ins that the shop cleaned were already "in pretty doggone good shape."
Business now
Today, the shop works mainly with a major car dealership. Carsten has known the owner since 1974. The dealership is located in Monet, MO, and it has proven popular with car buyers in a four-state area. Last year alone, the large dealership bought 1,500 program cars.
Over the years, and with help from additional employees, Carsten figures his business has detailed about 40,000 cars for the dealership. "I mean that's just that one dealership alone. But he's really been faithful to us and sent us a lot of program cars that were relatively easy to do," he said.
In addition to the dealership work, the shop has occasional retail business, and the Carstens are key holders for the local police department. The police agreement means that vehicles are frequently brought in for exterior washes and interior cleaning as well as for biohazard work and disinfecting. Finally, the business performs some insurance work that includes oversprays, etc.
Finding business
Currently, word of mouth is the shop's only marketing tool. "It's just being in this business for all these years," he stated. "Everybody around the country knows who we are. They know the type of work that we put out." It also helps that repeat customers know that they are going to get the same quality cleaning every time they return to the shop.
"I've had guys call me, of course I didn't even know them, and they'd say, 'I don't know what you pay these people to pump you up so much. But I have never heard anybody brag on anybody like they brag on you.'" Carsten said.
When it comes to new business, Carsten always makes a certain offer to skeptical potential customers. "I tell people, 'Why don't you come by and take a look at a car that we're going to do, and when we get it done I'll call you and you come back and look at it.' And I've never had anybody do that." After hearing the offer, new customers know that they can trust the shop with their car.
Detailing advice
Based on his decades of experience, Carsten recommended that new detailers go to the best detail shop they know of and work for that owner for at least six months. Also, younger detailers should watch all the videos available and learn everything that they can possibly learn before starting out. "Because even when you learn all that, you're really just beginning when you get in that shop," he said.
It is also essential for experienced detailers to continue to learn and invest the money to pay for their ongoing education. "You've got to stay on top of it. You've got to read up on things. You've got to know the products that are out there, and you've got to be willing to invest in those products that are new and test them."
Carsten said he and his wife are still constantly learning, even after 49 years, because of the changes that occur in the automotive industry from year to year. One example he cited was new car paint. Even though a car is the same model made by the same manufacturer, the paint may be completely different on the newest model than it was just a year before.
One trend Carsten said new shop owners should avoid often is a result of shop buyouts. "We also see … a middle aged person buy another shop out, and they try to keep that help there, and they don't want to do any of the work," he explained. "They want those kids to make their living, and that don't work. That just don't work."
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Carsten also shared advice for new shop owners about location. "I would suggest that they spend the money and get a high-output traffic place," he said. "That really does hurt you, if you're … starting out [and] don't have much money."
Memories of Carsten's early location may be the basis of this recommendation. The couple's first shop did not include a drain in the floor. Because of this, cars had to be washed in the alley, even during the winter. "I mean there were just icicles hanging everywhere. I mean it was really miserable."
Today the shop's location is still a bit off the beaten path. The business is only one block over from a high-count street, but it's just far enough that drivers do not notice the shop. Carsten said that is okay because the couple could not handle the high-traffic work anyway.
At 67 years old, and after a triple bypass, cancer and six and a half stints, Carsten said he is just glad to still be going. "Well, they used to say back in World War II, you couldn't go buy a new tire. They would just patch it and put it back out on the road. That's just about the way I feel the doctors do me."


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Earlier this year I bought a new Laptop which was loaded with win 7 yuk Live Mail is a huge pain Im trying to download outlook. Also why has word not got a email with it now are Micfosoft getting lazy
i have tried it but found a problem with outlook.com. you can not delete email addresses out of the frequent contact list. if you can not delete them then the frequent contact will lose all of it benefit.
Doesn't look that spectacular. Why do they feel the need to take away our email client and put it on the cloud anyway? Okay for tablets there isn't enough hard drive space okay. On my tablet I'm happy with my yahoo and gmail online accounts using the email client that comes on my Android. So far this doesn't look like a reason to switch. Have you seen the email at bigstring.com? Super fast.
I don't see any thing that is outstanding, actually the little I see I don't like. Just what I want a whole right side of advertising. GMAIL has some, but not as in your face.
the one feature of gmail that I love is its ability to sync with my outlook. this way family members and friends can update their outlook, which updates into my gmail, which then syncs with my outlook calander. I've found this very handy with a college son and a very busy wife to keep our schedules in tune. Does outlook.com also sync in this fashion. We don't have access to any servers other than our ISP?
Some you people should learn and understand what you are commenting on .... before you comment. I am sitting here looking at a clean a tidy web based email system on a reasonably underpowered laptop running Win7 and find Outlook.com performing in a manner as good or better than many other web based email systems I have investigated recently - with NO advertising and less that 1/4 of the SPAM than picked up in 8 other free web based sytems.
Microsoft Exchange webmail interface (both Enterprise Exchange and Office 365) suffers drastically when used on Linux (or Chrome OS), regardless of the browser. When using Windows (XP and 7) the interface is consistent regardless of the browser (IE, Firefox and Chrome). Outlook.com web interface runs pretty much the same on Windows as it does Linux. Would love it if it included an Outlook-like view of the Calendar too.
Live mail seems so much easier to use. Just have a hard time finding my way around in this new Outlook. Sending mail to numerous contacts is burdensome compared to Live Mail.
I still prefer Outlook Express from Win XP as it wastes less screen space.
It seems a poor mixture of Hotmail and Gmail, and ads make it unuseful for corporate uses. Comparing, frankly, I prefer old Outlook Express...
Say what you will about MS, at least this is not their first rodeo from a security point of view. Rather not be a Google/Apple guinea pig. Also, Google is solely in the business of selling your personal data to the world. MS? not so much. Who would you trust with your personal email? Or, more bluntly, why would you ever give your email to Google in the first place?
Personally I doubt very much whether anyone in their right mind would want to support Microsoft further than they would absolutely have to. Between Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, and other major names, spying on us all the time by harvesting data that benefits them only and they have us all running around in big circles. I have just scrapped my mobile in favour of NOT being a slave to technology and the extra freedomn is amazingly refreshing. Of course, I haven't even mentioned TechRepublic's tendency to COMPLETELY IGNORE the fact that I HAVE UNSUBSCRIBED from ALL their NEWSLETTERS on SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
I tried this new software and as a result Skydrive stopped allowing me to upload multiple files ! I tried using System Restore to rectify the problem but had to resort to a full hard disk restore from a hard disk clone. I will not be trying this software again which is a shame becuase I quite liked it. Reported my problem but as usual Microsoft don't care and didn't reply.
Who wants anything from the evil empire? What's wrong with Gmail? Is the World full of (Goscinny's) Isnogoods?
A greater difference is the contacts list, its almost like windows phone or windows 8.
Why would I give up GMail?
I'm glad I use Outlook 2007 and MSN mail. So much easier to use. Looks better, too!
and worse then G-mail. Talk about cluttered, never seen anything so cluttered before. And it comes with ads too.
Real Outlook has many features not present in Outlook.com. Where is the calendar integration? There is only the hazardous Preview Window. Real Outlook has a "Messages with Auto Preview" that gives a hint of the content for most messages. No thanks, I will keep my Outlook client.
The screen shots have an awesome similarity to Thunderbird, which has been my stand-alone email client for years. Of course Mozilla never sends me ads.
Microsoft.....??? Too hungry for money...continuoulsy changes ....and more money!!! The majoryty of people that uses the computer just needes to do basic operations and cannot afford to pay squillions of dollars and computers with billions of gigabytes for his programmes that need also 10 years of study to use it to write a letter or send an email!! hmmm I am 71 and remember the time that we had 200meg of hard disk with 2000 programmes and the computer was working really well...without problems...no bull sh..! why doesn't He (Good Microsoft) creates a set for the humans on Earth and a set for the NASA to export to Mars or for some corporates that owns the majority of the businesses on this planet? And we will promise that WE WILL every morning when we get up as soon as we open our eyes say " MICROSOFT YOU ARE THE BEST"!!! H A P P Y???
Google never brought me the blue screen of death and didn't write Vista. Their prices are also not a rip-off. It's about trust
BAD BAD NEWS: OUTLOOK.COM will not I repeat will not allow any email names that begin with a NUMBER :( so if you have an favorite OR current email name email beginning with a number you are totally ignored by Microsoft and you are out of luck. I tried to add my favorite email name which I have used for years with other email.com beginning with a number and it was refused.
Very clean interface, seems a lot like the 2013 BETA Outlook... I Like
It's hard to get passed the really old version of Firefox and low resolution of this slideshow. It looks just like my grandma's computer. Outlook.com looks 100x better in my browser, which the ads only take up about 5% of the screen real estate instead of the 20% in this article.
What was the point of this article? How is Outlook.com going to make me switch? I already use Outlook to access my gmail AND Microsoft mail....
It looks great EXCEPT the gargage-spam-cheap crap advertising in the right hand column as soon as you log in. If this amature looking, Wal-Mart style, in your face trash advertising stays - I'm Gone. WaittaGo Microsoft - Mess it up right when you could have shown you have some class... But no, show the true mentality of your management. With stunts like this, you'll never be, or beat Apple - which I own their products but truly hate their company, and would LOVE to have an alternative - one with class, but you don't know what I mean, it's obviously not part of the Redmond culture. Good luck trying to shove this down peoples throats - not really, everyone needs to give you their thoughts on this BS... and then bail out on you!
Microsoft: You, without my knowledge or consent, chose to convert my Hotmail accounts on my work computer (Win7) to the new 'outlook.com' format .. right in the middle of my work. Quite disruptive, but I looked at it .. tried it .. and, once I finally found the option, switched back to Hotmail. You everso kindly offered me the option of feedback, so I clicked and waited patiently. Then came the message that the feedback form could not be displayed because I either didn't have an Internet connection (totally false), or your servers were overloaded. I gather it was option #2. I tried multiple times .. day/night .. and it never came up. So, I sure hope somebody from the MS Outlook.com project reads TechRepublic. 1- I tried it .. got a message needing a reply, and clicked 'reply.' Self-explanatory. The interface is clumsy at best. Big block contacts on the left .. supposedly a place to type a reply on the right .. but it didn't work. It would not accept input. Tried going back to the message list and trying again .. same result. Ok, I'm starting to get a bit tense since I use several Hotmail accounts in my work and need them to function. I had to go to my personal desktop (WinXP), log in and complete the task. The original machine where it didn't work is a fully patched, updated, high-end laptop .. as noted running Win7. 2- Where is the menu bar to navigate back to your main page when you go to other areas .. like 'options?' I need things accessible .. not off on some other page represented by 'Metro' blocks or being forced to use the back arrow. You are, at that point, wasting my work time .. and productivity. 3- As someone has previously mentioned, why do I need such an elaborate integration of social networking? I don't use it. And *stop* trying to sign me into Messenger every time I log in .. I don't use that, either, nor do I plan to. 4- I'm a bit confused of the assignment/re-assignment of e-mail accounts: a. I understand there is an option to keep addresses with '@hotmail.com.' How? b. does this prevent someone from using my account names with '@outlook.com?' c. if it doesn't prevent it, will I be forced to 'reserve' all my accounts on 'outlook?' Do you even realize that not everyone just has these accounts to be social and play? And if conversions will be mandated, what a disruption that will be? 5- When I went to bring up the 'converted' account on my other computer .. the XP machine .. the display was total trash. And completely unusable. It was the 'outlook basic' format, all the text overlapped, and nothing worked. Thank god one of my unconverted accounts that is in constant use still displayed somewhat properly on the desktop, but I note you've made changes to 'old' format, too. 6- Please stop treating us like children or idiots. When I did convert back to the Hotmail format on the work machine, if I bring up the inbox, it defaults in the display area to the message: "Click a message to show it here This message is sort of like a cover sheet to protect your privacy. You can also show the first message here automatically" Well, I about fell out of my chair laughing .. 'protect your privacy????' And '...sort of like a cover sheet...??' I certainly don't expect a company like Microsoft to talk down to users to that extent. Recent articles I've read, both in business journals and TR, the comment has reportedly been made by Microsoft that they're hard at work developing the 'complete entertainment operating system.' I would suggest, Microsoft, that you stop totally ignoring that portion (and it's not insignificant) of your user base that uses a computer as a working tool .. not a toy. There isn't anything you've presented of late that isn't detrimental to productivity. Example: you can't get from point A to point B anymore with Win8 Metro .. you have to click thru C, D, and E .. if you can find them. Work a touch screen for my normal 10 hr. workday? Use a tablet? I do have a tablet .. my eReaders are on it as well as other apps of interest, but it would *never* function for work. The cloud .. ahh, the cloud. Have you considered next year is the solar maximum and, given all the background, it's supposed to be significant. There is already discussion about major disruptions to power grids and the need for preparedness. Consider the recent storms in the SE part of the country that knocked some major cloud providers off the grid. But I guess that's like global warming .. it doesn't exist, not going to happen, right? Another article I read from TR was the 'catch-up' potential of 'outlook.com' to Gmail .. as in it's not going to happen. Two factors were presented .. one positive, one negative. Positive: the integration of social networking. Yes, for the non-work, general end user base. Negative: planned integration of Skype direct from e-mail. Great, that would be nice, but ... it's not going to be 'ready to go' when Outlook.com is fully released this Fall. I totally agree with the article .. that should have been a primary consideration fully ready-to-go at launch. And speaking of Skype, are you going to keep it updated and functional for users who don't use the MS products to which it's integrated? And without making it prohibitively expensive? Ok .. end of feedback. Again, I hope you read it.
I don't think Microsoft is really thinking outside the BOX.. There is so much more they can offer to create a email distribution , communication, video chat and much more. Put it together and they will come...
The only reason I use Microsof is the present format of OUTLOOK, usin the three columc setting {Folders, received Emails and at the side of this the content of selected Email.] If I could find anyother site providing this format I would drop Microsoft in an instance." Not enjoyed Outlook Email since Office 2007 introduced." Paul.
Thought I would give outlook.com a try. Looks nice. But after importing my calendar over, some appointments were lost. I put a question on Microsoft's support forum, 36 hours later, not a single response. C'mon Microsoft, you should be all over this just days after launch. I'm deleting myself!
Obviously there are some technical advantages with Gmail. But the data mining that accompanies Gmail is quite bothersome. Read the new Google privacy policy. By FDC order, one policy applies to ALL Google products. In it Google says they can use anything you do or store (contacts, favorites, friends, locations you frequent, where you are currently (from your phone GPS) and searches) for marketing and release to third parties for marketing purposes. That is scary. Facebook is mega-curious about telling all about you. But, you do have control over most of what happens. I recently had a test of how much the general populace can see about me. A couple of new (in person) friends said they had tried to find me on Fb and couldn't. I have my privacy set to "Friends of Friends" and that was the reason. I also have opted out of the "Timeline" feature. Thus, the mandatory information you have to furnish at account setup time is not publicly displayed. I had a gmail account until they announced the new policy. Before it activated, I was out of Google. Gmail contacts were removed and search use was ended. I no longer use anything google except my android phone. And that may be the next item to change. I am waiting to see if my carrier will have a Microsoft OS phone. If they do I'll be on one.
Gmail is superior by all means - spam filtering - message labeling - free email@example.com up to 50 users + aliases and the most important: used by Google for it's own corporate. I'd reconsider if MS would use outlook.com as it's only email system
Why don't they concentrate the development resources in improving Outlook Desktop? It's one of Microsoft's most successful tools but it could be improved a lot. For example: Better rules management interface, Tagging and categories, performance...
Why are you using Firefox in this outdated way. Deal with the add-ons and boost your Firefox. Anyway thank you for all that you taught these years. I'm a fan! recommended collection: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/hmorf/most
How does integrating Facebook help the corporate desktop (is there opt out)?
That it's not compatible with my playbook browser yet....but I'm not getting my knickers in a bunch, it'll come in time I'm sure.
or are you trying to sign up for outlook.com ? Outlook is part of MS Office Suite, paid for software.
can rip you off for more money.
Uninstall the crapware, including every part of Windows Live.
Have you tried it? If you have and they didn't respond, you could always block them as spam, and maybe list them as a spammer on Web-of-Trust; but I imagine you will get satisfaction in support - they have always helped me 100%
Personally, I have always thought that outlook express was the best email client of all time. You could drag and drop emails anywhere, backup was easy, lots of options. Pretty much bullet proof, although when it did go out it was possbile that you had to redo the OS before it would work again. Now the one size fits all stuff, well it never does so get over it. Very happy with evlolution on Linux. Has all the junk, like calander which I never use, can not do profiles like Outlook Express, but then it won't get viruses, or at least in three years plus never has. Some say it can but, some say theirs did, but I've never seen a fully documented virused machine; IE symptoms when, where, how, what distro, what cured it blah blah. But pops is 100% correct: In 17 years you think there would be a gold standard for email clients by now. The state of the art must be pretty bad.
I went through this fiasco about 12 years ago with another ISP. I have a general and business e-mail account that I use for most public communications. I have had it for over 30 years. I have a notebook full of sites that send me information, news, mail, advertisments, and junk at thjat address. At last count there are over 300 of them. That means I'd have to go and change my log in and email contact with all of those places, plus the individuals I don't wnat on my other address lists. Whoever the weenie that dreamed that concept up is a true lunatic. BTW the rationalle that I was given for not allowing the first character to be a number was, every address that had a number first was the source of a virus. [I want that guy to come and talk on my front lawn, I need the fertilizer.]
Running a droid phone and that will be gone as soon as my new Win8 phone arrives. Have not used google crap for anything in a long time.
What I find absolutely hilarious with Outlook is that when you're installing Outlook 2010 you get a splash screen during the process, that is identical to the one in Office XP!!!! So under the hood of Outlook 2010 is Outlook XP! Sure, they've put new bumpers and fins on it but it's still crappy old Outlook that craps out when the .pst file gets too big. It's also the same Outlook that crashes its GUI but keeps its process chugging along on one cylinder in the background which prevents the user restarting it and getting back to work. How about a rewrite for this old nail M$??? Nahh, too busy adding DRM and walled garden code to bother about actually evolving the product. How's my stack ranking today??
for quite a while to do that already. Facebook already knows too much about me. I'm never going to do that - but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened anyway - without my permission.
one option it has is to 'Upgrade to Outlook.com' which was activated by accident when she had the cursor hovering over the link for too long - first time she used a laptop. Thus it (and I use this term very loosely) upgraded to Outlook.com and automatically created an MSN account for her with an auto login - and there is no way to reverse the upgrade.
mean the client.
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September 9th, 2008 #151
nice value studies, your doin good
looking forward to what you'll produce in the following year
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so am i grafguy ^^
here's a girl that started out as more of a doodle but eventually i started thinking i should put some of the things i learned in practise and try to paint her without using reference. So this is what i have atm
Now im going to try to refine her some more using reference and then give her some color
September 13th, 2008 #153
Last update for tonight
September 15th, 2008 #154
Ive been having some bad luck the last 2 days , lets say coffee and tablet pcs
dont mix. After some dissambling and cleaning every inch of the motherboard i got it working again and heres and update on the girl .
still pretty rough but im working on it
September 16th, 2008 #155
September 16th, 2008 #156
back to pencils WIP (photoref)
September 17th, 2008 #157
September 18th, 2008 #158
Me and a friend are entering the Unearthly challenge so ive been doing some previsualisations of the buildings. Still not sure what we are going to use.
September 19th, 2008 #159
hi and great...
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September 19th, 2008 #160
Tnx kelly ^^ here are some portraits i did this evening
September 19th, 2008 #161
Hey man. Got some really good stuff going. Would like to see you hang of the blur effects that such strong backlights give. Instead, do more studies so that the chatacter shines on it's own.
Other than that, just keep posting, sharing and rocking
September 20th, 2008 #162
tnx for the comment , i know i still lack a anatomy studies so ill force myself to do more of them
hogarth, attempt to make a contraposto pose from the mind and doodle face
October 2nd, 2008 #163
mostly schoolwork
lowpoly (2500 tris) 3d model based on existing character
Sculpt i did on the train :
October 6th, 2008 #164
some conceptdoodling for a schoolproject
October 17th, 2008 #165
October 22nd, 2008 #166
Where are your updates? I 'd like to follow the progress of some people
My CA SketchBook
Digital Portfolio
October 22nd, 2008 #167
Do you mean updates in general or on the paint?, i decided to use the paint above as a final because i now know the bigger flaws in the piece.
I would have to redo the entire paint and because of a lack of time (i'm still following the entire DAE curriculum btw) i wasn't able to do that, but for my next paints i now know what to think about before i start the painting process.
Here are the character design sheets i handed in today
Eduardo Bueno a not so straight hairstylist
i'll try to scan my pencildrawings too when i get the time
October 23rd, 2008 #168
lovely freak u got there raven
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November 12th, 2008 #169
tnx fox
Ive been throwing myself into a lot of projects these days, mostly 3d and i have a lot of schoolwork too so my drawings stay mostly at doodlefase and i dont feel like scanning
1 character wip of a bigger scene i am working on
Robots serving gods for a small compo:
November 15th, 2008 #170
practicing with pencils
another testrender
November 15th, 2008 #171
almost forgot this one
i'm entering the imagine cub contest from microsoft with a 3 other students and this is our logo
November 16th, 2008 #172
Haha cool logo!
Love your work man, keep it up!
Help me improve my drawing skills by commenting my sketchbook
November 21st, 2008 #173
tnx surion
here is some more 3d stuff, the coming weeks i'll try to update more conceptart related stuff since the concept fase of our teamproject begins
lowpoly Gravedigger
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your character looks great in 3D, but at the same time...ewww . I think the bellybutton could use some more work though.
November 26th, 2008 #175
peles servant final
December 2nd, 2008 #176
attempt at traditional painting
December 9th, 2008 #177
a new compoentry im working on
December 10th, 2008 #178
Thx for dropping by.
Btw; nice updates in your sketchbook. Try to use more dynamic poses and more perspective when you choose a cameraview.
But nice work!
The figure drawing class is in Ghent, op Sint Lucas. ( of aan de Academie ).
Surf naar de website van het DKO (deeltijds kunstonderwijs) voor meer info.
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December 10th, 2008 #179
tnx for the comments, i usually try to play it safe with the poses but that results in works that dont look that interesting. Im going to try to work on that.
Here is wip of a traditional paint i am working on, i decided to try doing these some more
I'm all out of white acryll paint so i have to wait untill tomorrow to continue painting the rest and fix some stuff
December 19th, 2008 #180
WIP painting i started this evening


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Very good description of a very nice scent.
I have had a full bottle of this delivered today as I was impressed with LNPH another MFK creation and it is every bit as gorgeous.
This one is all about orange blossom,amber and cedar though they are blended together seamlessly. I sprayed a shot to my chest and both wrists and have been enveloped in a halo of warm orange blossom amber.
It is warm and slightly sweet and powdery and has the same ethereal nature as LNPH but this projects more and I have gotten about nine hours plus and it's still going.
This scent really is heavenly and it seems to blossom on the skin. It gives you a rich seductive glow and the woods seem to make the scent more masculine by deepening the feeling of the amber/orange blossom.
Anyone who loves Aqua Di Palma, Neroli and barbershop type scents should check this one out as it is gorgeous. This would make a great Spring/Summer fragrance for that out of the shower into the Summer Sun feeling.
Very good description of a very nice scent.
I'm glad you're enjoying it, I recently got a decant and have been wearing it pretty often. My favorite part is the drydown, which smells like musk, honey and a touch of vanilla. The most amazing thing about APOM though, is how Francis Kurdkjian managed to keep the orange blossom note going all the way until the end! Unbelievable.
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Great description and nice to hear that you like APOM Pour Homme too. It really projects on beautifully way and keep the same sunny feeling all the time, just like you said. Sillage and longevity is really good at least on my skin. Luckily, I do still have some left of my APOM sample.
Have you tried Cologne Pour Le Soir? It also have very nice and seductive drydown with honey, benzoin and incense, but it is much dryer than APOM PH, though. Still very enjoyable IMO.
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APOM has a musk that doesn't agree with me 100%. It's my only problem with it...
Conscience is what hurts when everything else feels so good.
I found the citrus/cedar/musk reminiscent of Lalique White, but not as dry.
He boiled for our sins.
The only other fragrance I have like this is Penhaligons Castile and APOM blows that one out of the water. This is though a orange blossom fantasy (lol) where the amber,musk and woods deepens the OB and makes it more masculine. Thats what I like about it and this lasts and projects really well.
I just received my samples of the most of this line, and my impressions are the same This one and LN are the stand outs. I have yet to make my first MFK purchase but LN will be it. I really enjoyed APOMM today as it was my SOTD, However, the entire time i was sniffing it i knew it reminded me of something and i could not pinpoint exactly what it was and then it hit me...Amouage Reflection man. I know they are not identical, but there is a very similiar vibe, which will probably make it difficult to justify a bottle of this stuff, but i will continue testing it out. Amazing house and can't beleive it took me this long to discover them
APOM is all about orange blossom and amber, maybe you are picking up a neroli note within Reflection Man as they cannot be more different.lol
What did you think of Absolue Pour le Matin? It was the only one I did not gel with, the opening fizzy lemon accord that stayed around for ages was off putting for me. Agree though MFK is a fantastic house and all his scents are quality.
As far as APLM, I am right there with you, that fizzy lemon accord was not my cup of tea and boy did that note stick around for hours! lol APLS was another that is a intersteing scent but just not for me, especailly in the climate i lieve in i don't see myself waering it at all...i rarely wear MR, so i don't see this one getting much play either. Dry down is nice though.
Any other houses or scents that you have grabbed you're attention recently, i'd like to try another house that is of this type of quality.
I am glad I discovered the small house of Maison Francis Kurkdjian as well and I cannot remember when I have purchased two scents from one house in quick succession. I do not know of any small diamond in the rough fragrance houses like MFK but I will be on the lookout.
Good luck with your future purchase of Lumière Noire Ph it wows me every time I wear it.
The only fragrance now from MFK after having tried most of them is Acqua Universalis Forte though I read it was a bit feminine, will have to get a sample and try it.
I don't really agree with the 'dirty musk' comment. I've been wearing APOM since the end of February each and every day in cold freeze and in hot summer, sweating like dog while running: never dirty for a second.
Some weeks ago I already commented the Reflection comparison. The woman version might be similiar to an extent, probably because of the ylang-ylang, but APOM Homme is by no way similar to Reflection.
I don't know JH, APLS is really growing on me, at first i thoguht it was a bit too "dirty" but i can't stop sniffing my hand, 2nd night in a row i've tested this. I think it would take a little courage for me to wear this out, since i'm not sure how well received it may be by others, but i'm really loving how exotic and different it is compared to anything else i've sniffed or currently own. My bottle of LNPH should be in tomorrow which i cannot wait! The next MFK fragrance is still undecided at this point.
I'm wearing this today and I've got to say so far its my favourite MFK by quite a large margin, Still have Absolue pour le Matin and Aqua Universalis Forte to go.
1.APOM Pour Homme
2.Absolue Pour Le Soir
3.Lumiere Noire Pour Homme
4.Aqua Universalis (concentrated headache in a bottle, not good)
Kron I will be interested on your take of Aqua Universalis Forte when you test it as it's one I have not tried.
APOM Pour Homme is surprisingly one of the nearest to what I would call my holy grail so far. Surprisingly because I usually like spicier, heavier scents. I don't find it dirty in the least, on the contrary, it is bright, warm and awe-inducing as the most golden dusk I have ever seen.
A lot of neroli/orange blossom scents tend to be restrained or have a citrus aromatic feel to them but seem to be thin on the "star of the show" notes. Not here though you get the orange blossom in all its glory.
I really enjoy this one as well, however, owning Reflection Man makes me feel the need to not purchase this. Yes, i know they are not the same, but something similiar and i prefer Reflection. Probably main reason is i'm trying to limit my wardrobe and if anyting have been selling things off lately. Down to 20 bottles now. But APOM is great, i'm going to continue going through mys amples, i have a good 6ml of this stuff, maybe things will change after some more wearings.
Exactly! No citric sharpness, only creamy smoothness.
WoW! I love this fragrance......the best of LMFK for ME
I always jus got "nothing" from APOM Pour Homme. When sampling I would just scratch my head and ask why?
Absolue pour le soir is sole king in this line. The others are just variations of Aqua Universalis and Gendarme. Yuck!
Just ordered a sample set from MFK yesterday. I'm really looking forwards to trying it out, along with the others from the line.
I love it, But I love Neroli36 more.
I plan to purchase a sample tommorow. We'll see if it's worth the hype.
I just ordered samples of APOM and Lumiere Noir pour Homme... I ordered from the perfumed court which as we all know can be a roll of the dice. I might see these samples by Friday or by DEC 21, 2012!
My current top ten:
1. Spice and Wood
2. Tonka Imperiale
3. Dior Homme
4. Pure Malt
5. Oud Wood
6. Ambre Nuit
7. L'air Du Desert Marocain
8. Noir de Noir
9. Apple Brandy
10.Straight to Heaven
APOM PH is a fantastic fragrance.
Sensual like no other. Intoxicating.
It is quite unisex though.
Almost made me wonder if they filled my decant with the "pour femme" version...
I blind bought a bottle of this. When I first sniffed it, I was pretty disappointed. There was this weird plastic note that stuck out and ruined APOM PH for me. My brother tested it and got the same thing. It reminded us of some toy from our youth.
I gave it a few more wearings the last few weeks. I don't know if it's just because APOM is really suited for the spring, or if repeat wearings have adjusted my nose for this scent, but I've done a 180 on APOM PH - it strikes me as a perfect spring fragrance. I don't really get the plastic association anymore, I just smell this beautiful golden glow. I'm really enjoying this one now, strange how impressions can change so much.
Like this one too.
Wear a white buttoned down shirt after a shower. Very clean feeling to it.
The amber embraces you like a hug.
I'm battling if this is better or my Carnal Flower.
Almost nothing to add to Jack Hunter's initial description. :-) I like it very much, too.
I have not been able to make my mind up on this one yet. I'm going to wait until the weather is a bit warmer here and will try then.
La vita è breve, la morte vien.
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Do love this gem. I got the trio of LNPH, APOM and AplS and this get's by far the most wearings.
Smellin good
Is anyone having quality issues over time with this fragrance?
I just retested my official sample (I keep all my stuff cool and in the dark) and it's dull and a bit rancid, very far from what I remember. I should add that Absolue pour le Matin and Lumiere Noire smell as always...
Silly update: No idea what happened back in January, but the other day I tested it again and it smelled fine and better than APLM
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APOM PH is fantastic. Sometimes I just do one spray to the upper chest, and get wafts of that beautiful scent throughout the day. Has good sillage that I've found 2 sprays to be too much on some days.
OMG I just tried this at Neiman Marcus today. I am absolutely blown away! It's been a while since a fragrance has given me such a reaction. I think Jack perfectly described it. APOM gives you a beautiful glowing sensation. It just radiates warmth and a soft and sensual orange blossom. Absolutely beautiful. I wasn't very impressed with his other lines at first sniff but this one definitely pulled me in. If anyone doesn't want their bottle, I'll buy it from them haha
I'm wearing this today from a sample I've had for a bit. I agree it's well composed, but I'm not sure what I think of orange blossom as a note. It's odd, really; I understand why some folks get a laundry or dryer sheet effect (surely the fault of industrial fragrance using orange blossom), but even more so I get the "corn tortilla" effect I also get from Reflection Man. I assume it's the orange blossom in both cases. Why does orange blossom smell a bit of corn tortilla? So odd.
It is a very nice fragrance although, there's a musk note that ruins it for me. Kobe is similar and longer lasting (and unfortunately for expensive) and I prefer it overall.
I've done a 180 on this one. I'm so glad I was still trying to finish my decant before buying a bottle. For some reason I finally noticed that musky note in the base. Now I can't unsmell it. Damn shame, I really liked this one too
APOM is pretty good....I too sometimes get that one note that I kinda have a problem with. It almost has a "spit" smell to it, if you know what I mean....But as with most fragrances, you try them on and at that time and moment you don't particularly care for it, but after a few other wearings, I've actually grown quite fond of it...
My faves though are Still Oud, Amyris, and Pluriel at the moment...
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I'm not a huge fan of orange blossom, tried and didn't like kobe, sweet redemption etc..but mfk apom is extremely pleasant and on my to buy list
I get a lot of positive feedback on my sample of this one, but to my nose, Lumiere Noire Pour Homme is a much more elegant fragrance (and happens to be my favorite from the house, along with Aqua Universalis Forte).


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Call them what you like, toe shoes, foot gloves, gorilla feet. Call them strange-looking, weird, ugly if you're so inclined. Just understand that the funky, almost barefoot look of the FiveFingers hides from no one. The ultralight, increasingly chic shoe has made appearances this year at the Emmy Awards, on talk shows, and on the feet of everyone from Matthew McConaughey to former NFL star Eddie George. Whether actor Channing Tatum is rocking them on the streets of New York City or Google founder Sergey Brin is chatting up investors in them at corporate press conferences, the FiveFingers announce "I'm a free thinker" (though fashionista haters have charged that on ordinary mortals they cry out: "I'm going home alone tonight!"). The shoes, from Italian shoe company Vibram, sell for between $75 and $125—$35 for a knockoff version at a street vendor's booth.
In addition to their nonconformist currency in popular culture, the FiveFingers—which weigh all of 5.7 ounces and have a minuscule heel height of 7.2 millimeters—present a health and exercise message as well, as we've seen with a recent barefoot tutorial from Dr. Mehmet Oz. "The shoes were designed to not give too much cushioning," the ubiquitous doctor explained on his TV show, "but they allow you to run off the arches of your feet so you bounce." And Time, which named the FiveFingers one of the best inventions of 2007 (when hikers and boaters first latched on to them), points out that the shoes give you "the barefoot experience without putting your tender soles at risk."
For runners, though, the popularity of the FiveFingers has only intensified an ongoing conversation that kicked off in the spring of 2009 with the publication of Born to Run. The book, a New York Times best seller, reports on the Tarahumara Indians of northern Mexico who reportedly suffer fewer running injuries than North Americans do, even though many members frequently race ultralong distances in thin rubber sandals. Born to Run also presents reasons why barefoot advocates, such as author Christopher McDougall, believe that the best way to learn good running form is completely unshod, letting your feet and legs feel the subtle changes in impact so you can adjust your body to lessen that impact. Heavily cushioned treads, many of which dominate today's running-shoe market, don't allow for such an experience, the barefooters contend. "Sure," McDougall, himself an ultramarathoner, says, "I'll throw on a minimal shoe, but when I want to get back on track with my form, I have to be barefoot."
Buoyed by ideas presented in the book, the ranks of barefooters have grown, with a new organization, the Barefoot Runners Society, adding 700 members nationally in its first few months. But even the Barefooters point out that there are times when the foot needs some minimal protection from the elements. FiveFingers offer runners a way to guard their soles from sharp pebbles or ice chunks while allowing the foot to move almost as if it had no shoe on at all. And they're proving to be more than a protective trainer. In May, a 31-year-old California runner, Patrick Sweeney, won the Palos Verdes Marathon in a time of 2:37:14—with FiveFingers on his feet.
They're also proving to be more than a fad. Just ask Nike, New Balance, Saucony, and the other big boys of the multibilliondollar running-shoe business who have glimpsed the future of running shoes and are racing—get this—backward to catch up.
Turn back the clock to the early 1970s, a time of big hair, bell-bottom jeans...and waiflike running shoes epitomized by the Waffle Trainer, created when legendary University of Oregon coach Bill Bowerman famously used his wife's waffle iron to add a cushy tread to the bottom of a racing flat, making for a running shoe that was grippier on the road (and paving the way for the birth of Nike). In the ensuing years, though, shoe companies began to add more cushioning to their products. Many researchers believed then (and many still do) that runners needed cushioning, both in the forefoot and especially the heel, to absorb the shock from the road. But because the cushioning lifts the heel off the ground, additional hardware—such as medial posts and plastic shanks—were added to the midsole to provide stability and counter the effects of overpronation (the twisting that occurs when your ankle rolls too far inward). The result: the introduction of so-called stability and motion-control shoes, whose features can be seen in such popular models as Asics's 13-ounce Gel-Kayano and New Balance's 15-ounce 1012. "For the past 30 years, it has been bulk, bulk, bulk," says Ned Frederick, Ph.D., a biomechanics consultant for shoe companies. "People added more cushioning because we were competing for that soft ride that everyone was after."
But like hemlines, pocket handkerchiefs, and pleated pants, it seems running shoes—both in style and substance—are subject to consumers' changing demands. Fueled in part by the FiveFingers phenomenon, many shoe makers have begun to engineer minimalist models with new low-to-the-ground designs and ultralight materials that still provide cushioning while increasing flexibility (see "The Lowdown," page 80). Some of these new shoes have heel heights of just eight millimeters, compared to, say, the 38 millimeters of the Brooks Beast, a popular motion-control shoe. And more light, pliable, and lower-heeled shoes are coming. "Watch how minimal goes to a dozen brands in 2011," says Marshall Cohen, chief industry analyst for The NDP Group, a market research firm. "We're looking at point-of-sale data from the stores. In mid-2010, it was around two percent of sales for all running shoes. By next year, it could be double digit." (Still, while any shakeup in the $5 billion running-shoe market is news, the size of the "minimalist shoe" market is fairly small, no more than 10 percent of running shoes, according to Matt Powell, an analyst with SportsOneSource.)
What may be more resounding than revenue, though, is the role the shoes can play in helping defuse the perception that running-shoe makers sell only overbuilt, overcushioned footwear. "If you're making money from a puffy running shoe, and all of a sudden people are saying the product may not be good for you, you have to address that," says Greg Dutter, editorial director of the trade magazine Footwear Plus.
And yet beyond the bandwagon marketing of the current minimal trend, companies continue to invest a great deal into researching what runners really do need. Often, their research revolves around cushioning. Now, with the rage in lightweight shoes upon us, the question becomes, how low do you go?
Perhaps it has been years since you last ran barefoot—maybe you were chasing your kid along the beach or your dog in a grassy field after a summer picnic. But try it someday. What you'll likely notice is that with barefoot running, you tend to land on the whole foot instead of the heel (the more likely scenario when running on the road in a traditional running shoe). And without that well-cushioned shoe inducing you to extend your stride, you'll take shorter, more frequent steps and land much more softly. And you're less likely to develop tibial stress fractures, plantar fasciitis, and other injuries common to runners. Or so says Irene Davis.


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RALEIGH — Southwest's hopes of defending its state 1-A girls' soccer title came to an end Friday night against a team it beat a year ago in overtime to make it to the finals.
Elizabeth Nichols scored what proved the game winner about 15 minutes into the second half as Raleigh Charter came away with a 4-3 victory over the Stallions in the NCHSAA East Regional finals.
Southwest beat Raleigh Charter 1-0 in overtime in last year's regional final.
The Stallions, the No. 1 seed out of the Coastal Plains Conference, finishes 11-9-2. Raleigh Charter (20-1), the top seed out of the Carolina 12 Conference, will play for the state title against the winner of the Lake Norman Charter-Hendersonville match.
The score was tied 2-2 at halftime and 3-3 before Nichols' goal off an assist from Grace Nipp.
"I actually thought we played one of our better matches of the year," SWO coach John Sweeney said. "Raleigh Charter is a terrific team. I don't think that there's much more to say than that. I thought we played well enough to win.
"A few lapses here and there, a few missed chances for us, but that's the name of the game. It's about focus and it's about finishing. Obviously, I'd love if it were going to be playing next weekend (in the state finals), but they certainly are good enough to say they deserve to be there as well."
Southwest 2 1 — 3
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GOALS—SW: Carroll; Blake; Crow. RC: Green 2, Dreyer, Nichols. ASSISTS—SW: Marley, Johnson. RC: Nipp. IN GOAL—SW: Ware (5 saves). RC: Lily Koning (2 saves). SHOTS ON GOAL—SW 5, RC 9. CORNER KICKS—SW 6, RC 3. RECORDS—SW 11-9-2, season complete. RC 20-1, vs. Lake Norman Charter-Hendersonville winner for state 1-A title, TBA.
Dixon 4, North Duplin 2: Dixon is making another deep run in the NCHSAA 1-A playoffs.
Senior catcher Zack Sicknick drove in the go-ahead run in the top of the sixth inning and Dixon added an insurance run in the seventh to slip past North Duplin in the third round of the state playoffs in Mount Olive.
"You try to play your best baseball come playoff time," said assistant coach Nick Raynor, speaking for head coach Jack Brown, who declined comment. "We feel like we're clicking on all cylinders here."
Dixon (17-9), the No. 3 seed from the Coastal Plains Conference, travels to Tri-County Conference No. 1 seed Midway (23-3) on Tuesday in the East Regional semifinal. North Duplin, the No. 1 seed out of the Carolina Conference, finished 17-7.
Cameron Greeley walked and went to second on a grounder before scoring on a single to left field by Sicknick, who was 3 for 4 with a double that helped key a two-run first inning that gave the Bulldogs an early lead.
North Duplin tied it in the third before Dixon scored late to win.
Tyler Ross was 2 for 2 for the Bulldogs with an RBI-triple in the seventh for a 4-2 lead.
"That was big," Raynor said. "It gave us some breathing room."
The Bulldogs also got a complete game four-hitter from ace J.P. Padgett (5-2), who struck out 13 and walked one while also hitting a batter. Padgett finished the game with a 1-2-3 seventh inning, including striking out the final two hitters.
"J.P. seems to really be hitting his stride come playoff time," Raynor said. "He's pitched his best games all year in the two games he's started in the playoffs."
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West Brunswick 2, Jacksonville 1: Cole Josselyn scored on an error with one out in the bottom of the seventh inning on a hard-hit grounder by Markel Jones as West Brunswick slipped past Jacksonville in the third round of the NCHSAA 3-A playoffs.
The Trojans (20-4) scored in the first to grab an early 1-0 lead, but the Cardinals, who finished 15-9-1, tied it in the fifth and looked headed for more with the bases loaded and just one out. But West Brunswick ace Landon Tilley (7-1) came on in relief to kill the rally, getting a strikeout and a pop fly.
JHS didn't have a runner in scoring position in the final two innings.
Josselyn walked after facing a 2-2 count against Blake Heatherly and went to second on a sacrifice bunt before Jones' grounder. Right fielder Logan Staup, who threw out a runner at home to end the sixth, scrambled to retrieve the ball and just missed throwing out Josselyn at the plate.
"We came up just about a half a step short," JHS coach David Fleischer said. "It was really a tough loss. Their pitchers did a great job. They kept us in check. We put the ball in play. We just didn't hit the ball hard. Neither did they.
"We just made a couple errors that cost us, and we didn't take advantage of opportunities when we had them. … Our whole team played awesome. We just came out on the short end of the stick. It was a well-played ballgame."
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nuccia wrote:Hi pascalena,
This may sound a bit weird to some but I have to mention this anyway. I'm Calabrese. That's the easy part. My mother is from Malito in Cosenza, my father from Locri in Reggio and I have family in Guardavalle (Catanzaro). My sister and I speak my mom's dialect (Cosentina) my brother speaks like my father (Reggitano) and for the life of me, I can't understand half of what my cousins from Catanzaro say when they talk! It seems they speak in the past sense.
Does this make sense? I think that it not only depends on the region a person is from, but from what town, or province, too.
Unfortunately, I always understood my Dad when I was growing up and he yelled at me about something. Some things in dialect are just universal!
Postby DonnaPellegrin » 12 Apr 2006, 20:01
Julo wrote:The "cosentino" dialect has basically a more intact indigenous Latin root because the ancient greek colonies never expanded in the more mountanous Cosenza region, while the reggio area dialect have a large greek influence because of the strong greek influence along the ionian coast that goes from Metaponto to Reggio. The Catanzaro dialect is almost a combination of the two and kind of serves as the dialect barrier, in fact north of Catanzaro you might say it's latin, while south of it it's greek.
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One useful Groovy iterator is the SyncIterator, based on Ruby's SyncEnumerator which can iterate across several data structures at the same time. It makes use of DefaultTypeTransformation.asCollection() to perform the same coercion that Groovy uses by default to implement methods such as each(), collect(), and the like...
Another useful iterator is the Generator, which takes a closure and offers up the stuff it yields as an iterator, without having to keep all of the generated data around in memory. (It's based loosely on Ruby 1.9's Generator, which was also the challenge in Ruby Quiz #66)
Note that Groovy doesn't have this concept built in. Its MethodClosure to Iterator conversion loads everything into an array all at once, which isn't a particularly good idea you may be running find() on it, and only need to generate the first item to find what you're looking for.
For example, consider the following use of a Generator:
As the Groovy runtime implements this now, you would exhaust all available ram when converting the MethodClosure to an iterator, before find() was ever called. With a Generator, values are only generated on demand.
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For instance, would Python be a more ergonomic programming language since it doesn't force you to make curly braces which requires the AltGr key. Also Python usually requires less code to achieve the same or am I being biased towards Python and PHP actually is an ergonomical and comfortable language despite forcing the programmer to use the AltGr key? Isn't forcing the programmer to use the AltGr key not very ergonomical?
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Try the following with Python and read the result:
Think about the statements and you may be able to decide if you like it or not. Then you will know whether you would like Python or not. Maybe :)
For me personally, Python is easy to type, it is easy to read. This way it is ergonomical in the sense of input/output related to the progammer.
My objection against Maxpm's answer is that also mentally clear basic abstractions are part of the ergonomy as typing ergonomy will not save my headaches if the language is not understandable from the abstractions point of view.
Once the program becomes complex, you need refactoring, making functions out of the blocks of code (easy in Python with simple editors), you need to split functionality to modules (also easy).
For me Python and C++ are very nice, ergonomic languages (not the APL).
The example of non-ergonomic language for me is SQL. True, you can type it all in lower-case. But then it is unreadable for those who are used to traditional upper-case keywords... When forced to type the keyword in upper-case, or you have to get used to using CapsLock, or your Shift-little fingers will hurt.
I think ergonomics in programming languages are more related with the way people think or read and less related with the way people type.
Ergonomics is subjective in the same way some people prefer an armchair and other people prefer other armchairs. However it's a subjectivity where there are clear patterns, like not too hard, not too soft, not slippery, not sticky, not asphyxiating (even if it is subjective most people like to breathe), etc.
Try to read Brainfuck or Malbolge. Those are fairly good examples of how bad ergonomics can get to be. Python, on the other hand, receives awards from time to time as a good language.
Seriously, ergonomics in programming languages matter a lot, as in any human-machine interface.
Yes. Anything that involves the body can be measured ergonomically, although the final score can change due to different keyboards, etc.
This is not a problem with your programming language as such, but with your keyboard layout which has special characters elsewhere than the one used by Americans(which have defined most of the current mainstream languages).
Considered buying a US-ASCII keyboard for programming?
The ergonomics of a programming language (or lack thereof) are entirely subjective, there is no way to objectively measure them.
Having said that, there's no denying PHP could use some improvement regarding programmer friendliness as it lacks consistency. Some built in functions are lower case with underscores (get_class), some don't have underscores (gettype) and some are camelcased (bindParam). Some search/replace functions take their arguments in the form ($needle, $heystack) whilst for others it's ($heystack, $needle). And PHP constants aren't named in a consistant way. Some are prepended PHP_ and some aren't. (PHP_EOL versus DIRECTORY_SEPARATOR)
As of PHP 5 new additions to the language have tended to be more consistant, so the situation is certainly improving, but PHP still carries a lot of baggage of the past around with it.
Whether a certain character sequence is comfortable or not depends on many factors:
If you are concerned about ergonomics, reading code weighs much heavier than writing code, simply because you spend much more time doing the former than the latter. If anything, a language should be optimized for ergonomic reading.
Ergonomic score is relevant at the time of writing.
Reading, maintaining, upgrading, etc which go on for ages after the initial release are all relevant for the whole life of the program. Since these are more important for a good life of a program after it is written first, the language's ergonomic score makes negligible sense, if any.
No. Characters by themselves are intangible, and therefore cannot be ergonomic or non-ergonomic. What really matters in the end is your environment: your keyboard, IDE or even operating system. It is up to them to bind these arbitrary characters to the coder's physical movements. If they do this inconveniently, then it's their fault.