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No--I love wearing mine. Use 'em, don't keep 'em--that is my motto.
I was going through my collection of fragrances last night and it struck me: I own quite a few Creed frags (seven), more than a lot of Creed fans do, but I almost never wear any of them. They just collect dust, but I don't want to get rid of any of them. In fact, the most valuable one I had - the old Tabarome - I just recently swapped! Sure it smelled good, but I never wore the damn thing.
I really like all of the ones I own - GIT and Original Vetiver being my favorites - they smell really good, but I never have the desire to actually reach for one and wear it for the day. I always end up grabbing one of my more mainstream designer frags to wear on a regular basis. I don't know why this is.
Do any of you have a similar situation?
Last edited by shamu1; 14th July 2010 at 05:49 PM.
No--I love wearing mine. Use 'em, don't keep 'em--that is my motto.
I wear mine often. I find that I don't easily get bored Creed fragrances as I do with most other fragrances.
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i wear them but i also like wearing other colognes i have so i do a mix but many times it is a Creed day.
Hi, been lurking for a while but thought I'd reply to this one as Creed Himalaya triggered my interest in fragrance.
Hadn't really heard of Creed but Himalaya suited my skin so much that I wore it daily for several months (just one spray at a time to keep it subtle). Then bought a bottle of GIT and spent the next six months alternating between them for daily use.
Now, although I still love them, I've started experimenting with other houses just to add a little variety.
Never had your situation as yet, shamu1. I love them all with a passion and wear them regularly.
Last edited by JON RODGERS; 14th July 2010 at 07:11 PM.
I only wear the ones I've got if and when I feel like it. I've no set rotation, I just go into my cupboard and take out whichever takes my fancy at that moment.
I wear mine often.
I wear a mix, but a Creed makes it in rotation at least once a week. Often twice.
More than any other house, unfortuneately (for the wallet).
I probably wear each of these at least 3 times/month:
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i too had close to 7 frags from Creed (GIT, SMW, OV, OS, Erolfa, Green Valley & Baie de Genievere ... call it my basenotes puberty period. (joking)
Current status, swapped all of them... reason? the same as you cited. do i miss any of them? Mayyyyybe OV.
So, go ahead, swap them Shamu
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Depending on the bottle, between 3-20 times per year.
probably 5 days out of the week. i purposely keep two days open to test other fragrances in hopes of finding something I like more than Creed.
though this has been going on for about 12 years and I haven't found anything yet. :-)
No. No offense but this house didn't really work for me. I only have one. Of all the Creeds I tested, I decided I liked SMW the best because of the black current note but that goes away so fast and I'm left with the ambergris/musk base. That's boring to me. I'm almost out of the juice and will be giving my bottle away to a friend. I tested MI and GIT extensively and also a lot of the Millesimmes and the citruses too but again was just bored.
Another Creed I like is Acier Aluminium but I only wear that in certain moods and moments. I don't think I could pull that off outside. The rest of the particular lot that includes similar ones to AA (Royal Delight, BdP, etc.) is not something I enjoy either.
I'm happy for those who are truly able to enjoy the offerings from this house.
I have Acier Aluminium, Himalaya, Tabarome Millesime, Original Vetiver, and G-I-T in rotation, and i wear them quite often. Himalaya and A-A most often, Original Vetiver and GIT only during spring/summer..
I have a good (not crazy) number of things to rotate - Creeds (I own seven at the moment but I know many more) are being used at least four days a week. Windsor and GIT mostly, recently.
Believe it or not, I have a similar situation as you Shamu. I own SMW, OV, Green Valley and MI. They all enjoyed a vigorous use period, and all (the MI being a 1oz is practically gone) are about halfway gone. But now, they all feel a bit bland and get monotonous over the course of a full day. So yes, while I like them all, they don't get nearly as much play as most of my other stuff anymore.
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They often smell fairly good but don't satisfy. I think of them as pleasant accords inside of mostly structurally poverty stricken fragrances. I often feel as though I need to use 10 mls a day to get what I'm looking for.
Bois du Portugal and Vintage Tabarome still work. Green Irish Tweed as well, although I use more Cool Water. Acier Aluminum feels a few sprays as well.
Last edited by pluran; 15th July 2010 at 03:39 AM.
I've got a lot of them too, but I seldom wear them. Mood doesn't call me to them as much as it calls me to others. I don't know why. In some ways I'm sure it's the same reason I want special reason to wear things from my favorite houses, L'Artisan and Diptyque. Maybe it's that in the morning something casual, unserious, un-special, and less expensive (usually) seems more accessible.
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I wear GIT the most often. Second is SMW and lastly OV, even though it's probably my favorite amongst the three. I reach for it the least. I also like Windsor but I only have one or two wearings left in my decant which I want to save.
I wear a Creed scent at least once a week.
I use Millesime Imperial a lot. Windsor rarely. Vintage Tabarome even more rare, I feel like I'm spraying on liquid gold when I use it.
I have different frags in my collection. I rotate them regularly. So I don't get to use my Creeds very often. But it doesn't mean that I don't like my Creeds anymore.
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I don't use Creed frags, but I've experienced this with a number of frags. When I don't reach for it a lot, that's how I know it's over.
If you stoped wearing your Creed frangrances, its probaly cause you have developed a more sophisticated nose. Congrats!
Thank God for the miracle and go on and explore Chanel, Guerlain, Annick Goutal, etc.
Last edited by ManlyScent; 15th July 2010 at 08:04 PM.
I only own Creed MI, but I wear it a fair amount. I generally only use it on a special-type occasion or a big night on the town or something (not to go to the supermarket, for instance). I am heading to Vegas this weekend and I plan on wearing that each night i head out.
Two others i have earmarked for purchases are GIT and Bois de Portugal. Again, I seem them as more fitting for things like weddings, dates, a more upscale night out, things like that. Partly this is economical - at those prices I don't want to go blowing through a bottle recklessly. I want to feel i got my money's worth for the outlay. Probably will take the same approach with any future niches I buy.
I wear a Creed about once a week during the day. Probably more often than that at night, and from that, I'll wear into the next day if it's really working for me. I really favor the EDTs - that citrus is really great at night. When I wear them during the day, I often bring the bottle with me and refresh as needed - very satisfying. VT for special occasions. BdP when I get the urge.
Yup, getting the urge for Santal Imperial right now!
I had bottles of 3 and several samples. I can't remember wanting to wear any of them more than once, except for sampling purposes in cases where I thought I should give the frag another shot.
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I wear them 3 - 7 days a week, I suppose. MI is the most often worn, followed by OV and SMW.
I can't say I get tired of wearing them, however I've become accustomed to them. Like the Buddhist concept of attachment, this results in demanding a better fragrance as well as being critical about them; finding things about them I don't like or wish were better.
The quest for the grail continues.
I've gone through periods where I didn't care to reach for them. I asked myself this same question, Why doesn't Scentologist wear these more often. So, I started grabbing for them again and realized the satisfaction I've been missing out on. I truely love them but I try to rotate fairly.
Is the juice worth the squeeze?
I have GIT, Bois du Portugal, Baie de Geneviere (sp?), Royal English Leather, and my partner has OV. While I don't wear any of them all that much, I always enjoy them when I do. Lately, I've been wearing BdG the most often. I love BdP, but it is a bit too formal for my lifestyle. However, I should add that it's the only one I bought a back-up bottle of. When I want to wear a leather fragrance, I find myself reaching for either Dzing! or Cuir Ottoman over REL these days. I don't really feel the need to explore Creed any further unless they come out with something amazing and don't charge $280 for it.
I NEVER wear Creed frags. I think they are the most hyped and overrated fragrances one can waste their money one,,Just mho.
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I own full bottles of GIT, OV and SMW. I'll wear one of them once a week usually. This week I have worn both SMW and Aventus (sample vial). Over the last 30 days I have also worn Acier Aluminum, Orange Spice and Citrus Bigarrade, all from samples. I love Creed, but I'm not a habitual wearer. Today I considered OV before I went with Aventus. OV is a better scent.
Shamu1, just like you i have seven Creeds (shock shock!). I wear them quite often, except for Himalaya (almost finished, so economising) and Millesime Tabarom (on hiatus till i can take the ginger again). Then again, i collect frags apart from wearing them, so i really pay no mind to wearing frequencies.
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I have GIT and MI, and am planning to buy SMW soon. They would always be in my everyday rotation, rather than special occasion fragrances. This isn't because I think they are not special, just that they are easily wearable.
I find myself never getting around to some scents, even though I like them. I always feel like I'm neglecting orther bottles in my collection. There are certain scents I don't wear until the season suits, like L'Instant and Dior Homme.
All my Creeds are summer friendly...why don't I wear them more? The truth is that I rotate scents so much that there is rarely even one bottle I wear on a weekly basis. Terre d'Hermes usually gets worn once a week as it's my fave.
I guess the diversity that a collection provides means that most scents never get used more than weekly at most. I can't see using up any of my current bottles over the next 3-4 years. Even my Kouros which is a 3.3 OZ that is 40% full. I bet that lasts me for the next two years at least!
I own only Green Irish Tweed (30ml) and Royal Delight (75ml). I rarely find myself giving them a full wear, most of the time I just spray a puff on my wrist and enjoy it.
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The wonderful thing about my current only bottle of Creed, Baie de Genievre, is that it's beautiful and confident but surprisingly casual. It's great on days I'm not feeling too satisfied with myself and it's in my bi-weekly category of scent wearing.
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Last edited by ManlyScent; 15th July 2010 at 08:21 PM.
I have a few Creeds and very much enjoy them all - but for some reason it takes a conscious effort on my part to wear them regularly. I make this effort because I'm afraid if I hang-on to a bottle for 10 years or so it'll go bad before I get to the end of it. I don't worry about that so much with other houses, but with all I've heard about the relatively short shelf-life of Creeds - I consciously wear them often.
there's a reason for that. especially considering their price premium.
now, you might think that they have fooled the majority of fragrance-fanatics here on Basenotes, and that YOU are the enlightened one. but i don't want to be around when you make that argument.
I wear mine several times a month. In fact, every time I read a post bashing Creed, it makes me want to wear them even more often. In my experience, things that are "hyped and overrated" are generally of very high quality...that's what makes them "hyped" or "overrated" in the first place.
And so it goes with Creed....
I'll guess I'll put mine up for sale since mi-hooked and manlyscent don't like them.
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Today: 3 of 84 SotD posts (currently)
Yesterday: 7 of 94
Tuesday: 3 of 84
Monday: 3 of 87
Sunday: 4 of 77
Saturday: 2 of 73
Friday: 10 of 88 (broke into two digits!)
A quarter of SotD thread postings might be a grandeur story, but 32 out of 587 isn't bad.
(I didn't count the Female Fragrances Discussion forum's SotD threads because I hear that there are even fewer of the house's products listed there, and I wanted Creed to make a good showing.)
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October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Posted in reply to Vincent Richomme
Vincent Richomme wrote:
> Michel Fortin a écrit :
>> On 2008-10-05 20:57:31 -0400, "Chris R. Miller"
>> <email@example.com> said:
>>> The !() syntax seems to serve only as a heads up that it's a
>>> template. Otherwise (as far as I can tell) a simple foo(int)(bar,
>>> baaz) would work just as well as foo!(int)(bar, baaz).
> What about the ^ ? I think it's not worst than !
> foo^(int)(bar) but maybe this symbol is already used by D ?
> Personally I would prefer to keep the C++, Java, C# syntax with <>
> because people are used to it even if in some cases it looks like a bit
> shift op.
^ is for bitwise XOR!
Unless you use ^^
Not my cup of tea though.
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Posted in reply to Lars Ivar Igesund
Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:
> Gregor Richards wrote:
>> downs wrote:
>>> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> The problem I see with "!" as a template instantiation is not technical.
>>>> I write a fair amount of templated code and over years the "!" did not
>>>> grow on me at all. I was time and again consoled by Walter than one day
>>>> that will happen, but it never did. I also realized that Walter didn't
>>>> see a problem with it because he writes only little template code.
>>> FWIW: I write large volumes of template code and I like the ! just fine.
>> Don't take this endorsement lightly. When downs says he writes large
>> volumes of template code, he means volumes in the literary sense: You
>> could fill a fairly-large bookshelf with his tomes of template code.
> I'm sure you mean not so large tomes, but with very long lines?
If you strip all the \n's you'll get a very long line. /joke
(unless you've used a #line)
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Posted in reply to KennyTM~
KennyTM~ a écrit : > Vincent Richomme wrote: >> Michel Fortin a écrit : >>> On 2008-10-05 20:57:31 -0400, "Chris R. Miller" >>> <firstname.lastname@example.com> said: >>> >>>> The !() syntax seems to serve only as a heads up that it's a >>>> template. Otherwise (as far as I can tell) a simple foo(int)(bar, >>>> baaz) would work just as well as foo!(int)(bar, baaz). >> >> What about the ^ ? I think it's not worst than ! >> >> foo^(int)(bar) but maybe this symbol is already used by D ? >> Personally I would prefer to keep the C++, Java, C# syntax with <> >> because people are used to it even if in some cases it looks like a >> bit shift op. > > ^ is for bitwise XOR! Yes and ! is for what ? Just look at managed c++ in .NET and tell me if ^ is always a bitwise XOR. > Unless you use ^^ > > foo^^(int)(bar) > > Not my cup of tea though. don't like either ^^
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Posted in reply to Vincent Richomme
Vincent Richomme wrote: > KennyTM~ a écrit : >> Vincent Richomme wrote: >>> Michel Fortin a écrit : >>>> On 2008-10-05 20:57:31 -0400, "Chris R. Miller" >>>> <email@example.com> said: >>>> >>>>> The !() syntax seems to serve only as a heads up that it's a >>>>> template. Otherwise (as far as I can tell) a simple foo(int)(bar, >>>>> baaz) would work just as well as foo!(int)(bar, baaz). >>> >>> What about the ^ ? I think it's not worst than ! >>> >>> foo^(int)(bar) but maybe this symbol is already used by D ? >>> Personally I would prefer to keep the C++, Java, C# syntax with <> >>> because people are used to it even if in some cases it looks like a >>> bit shift op. >> >> ^ is for bitwise XOR! > Yes and ! is for what ? > Just look at managed c++ in .NET and tell me if ^ is always a bitwise XOR. OK. The *binary* operator ^ is for bitwise XOR! And the ^ in foo^(int) acts as a *binary* operator also. And in C++/CLI the ^ in int^ and ^x acts as a *unary* operator, so no problem in this case. AFAIK one of the reason ! was chosen because a!b doesn't make sense in C, so D is free to use ! as a *binary* operator. > >> Unless you use ^^ >> >> foo^^(int)(bar) >> >> Not my cup of tea though. > don't like either ^^
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> No go due to #line. :o(
> Andrei
Perhaps this is silly, but if #line is the sole blocker, then why not change
#line? That feature seems so small in comparison to template instantiation,
it isn't fair to get the nicer symbol.
October 06, 2008Re: Positive
Posted in reply to Brad Roberts
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:17:44 +0100, Brad Roberts <firstname.lastname@example.com>
> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Bruce Adams wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:55:33 +0100, Andrei Alexandrescu
>>> <email@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Andrei
>>>>> I disagree. I'm not saying its easy but it could be done. We would
>>>>> have to start
>>>>> with something relatively simple and work our way up but it could be
>>>>> done.
>>>> I, too, think it can be done in the same way supersonic mass
>>>> transportation can be done, but having done research in the area I can
>>>> tell you you are grossly underestimating the difficulties. It is a
>>>> project of gargantuan size. Today the most advanced systems only
>>>> managed
>>>> to automatically prove facts that look rather trivial to the casual
>>>> reader. There is absolutely no hope for D to embark on this.
>>> I'm not asking for a generalised theorem prover. Something to handle
>>> even the
>>> simple cases is a start.
>>> I agree that D won't have this (any time soon) but mainly because there
>>> are several hundred things higher up the priority list.
>>>>> Compiler's already do all kinds of clever analyses behind the scenes
>>>>> but each one
>>>>> is often hard coded. I suspect the main difficulty is giving users
>>>>> too much rope
>>>>> by which to hang themselves, or rather hang the compiler trying to
>>>>> prove something
>>>>> it doesn't realise it can't. Marrying declarative / constraint based
>>>>> programming
>>>>> at compile time is creeping in via templates. I wish it was less
>>>>> well hidden.
>>>> I discussed the problem this morning with Walter and he also started
>>>> rather cocky: if you assert something early on, you can from then on
>>>> assume the assertion is true (assuming no assignment took place, which
>>>> is not hard if you have CFA in place). He got an arrow in a molar with
>>>> the following example:
>>>> double[] vec;
>>>> foreach (e; vec) assert(e >= 0);
>>>> // now we know vec is all nonnegatives
>>>> normalize(vec);
>>>> The definition of normalize is:
>>>> void normalize(double[] vec)
>>>> {
>>>> foreach (e; vec) assert(e >= 0);
>>>> auto sum = reduce@"a + b"(vec, 0);
>>>> assert(sum > 0);
>>>> foreach (ref e; vec) e /= sum;
>>>> }
>>>> If normalize takes udouble[] and you have one of those, there's no
>>>> need to recheck. Automated elimination of the checking loop above is
>>>> really hard.
>>>> Andrei
>>> Is it? I think your example needs to be expanded or we may be talking
>>> at cross purposes.
>>> Firstly I would rearrange things a little, though in principle it makes
>>> no difference.
>>> pre
>>> {
>>> static assert(foreach (e; vec) assert(e >= 0));
>>> }
>>> void normalize(double[] vec)
>>> {
>>> auto sum = reduce@"a + b"(vec, 0);
>>> assert(sum > 0);
>>> foreach (ref e; vec) e /= sum;
>>> }
>>> double[] vec;
>>> static assert(foreach (e; vec) assert(e >= 0)); // line X
>>> // now we know vec is all nonnegatives
>>> normalize(vec); // line Y
>>> Imagine I have a prolog style symbolic unification engine to hand
>>> inside my compiler.
>>> At line X the static assertion is evaluated.
>>> The logical property e>=0 is asserted on the vec symbol.
>>> The compiler reaches line Y.
>>> Vec has not been modified so still has this property associated with
>>> it.
>>> We now unify the symbol representing vec with the contract on
>>> normalise.
>>> The unification succeeds and everything is fine.
>>> Now imagine we have a stupid analyser.
>>> double[] vec;
>>> static assert(foreach (e; vec) assert(e >= 0)); // line X
>>> vec[0] -= 1; // line Z
>>> // now we know vec is all nonnegatives
>>> normalize(vec); // line Y
>>> when the compile time analyser reaches line Z it can't work out
>>> whether or not the
>>> contract still applies, so it removes the assertion that vec is e>=0
>>> for all elements, or
>>> rather asserts that it is not provably true.
>>> Now when we reach Y the unification fails.
>>> We don't throw a compile time contraint violation error. We haven't
>>> proved it to have failed.
>>> We throw a compile time constraint unprovable error or warning.
>>> Its like a lint warning. Your code may not be wrong but you might want
>>> to consider altering it
>>> in a way that makes it provably correct.
>>> We would really like to be able to assert that certain properties
>>> always hold for a variable
>>> through its life-time. That is a harder problem.
>>> I see something like this as a basis on which more advanced analysis
>>> can be built gradually.
>>> Actually re-using static assert above was probably misleading. It
>>> would be better to have something
>>> that says talk to the compile time theorem prover (a prolog
>>> interpreter would do).
>>> I have been meaning to write something along these lines for years but
>>> so far I haven't got around to it
>>> so I might as well stop keeping it under my hat.
>>> Regards,
>>> Bruce.
>> I think it's terrific to try your hand at it. I for one know am not
>> equipped for such a pursuit. I have no idea how to perform unification
>> over loops, particularly when they may have myriads of little
>> differences while still having the same semantics; how to do that
>> cross-procedurally in reasonable time; how to take control flow
>> sensitivity into account; and why exactly people who've worked hard at
>> it haven't gotten very far. But I am equipped to define a type that
>> enforces all that simply and clearly, today.
>> Andrei
> I'm not an expert at optimizers, but I do read a whole lot. This type
> of analysis is often call 'value range propagation'. Tracking the
> possible values for data as it flows around and eliminating checks based
> on prior events. Most modern compilers do some amount of it. The
> question is how much and under what circumstances. I'm not sure how
> many combine that with static value analysis to create multiple function
> versions. IE, 'enough' callers to justify emitting two different forms
> of the function, each with different base assumptions about the incoming
> data and adjusting call sites. I know that some compilers do that for
> known constant values. I guess it's something halfway to inlining.
> I can guess at what dmd's backend does.. or rather doesn't do. :)
> Later,
> Brad
Perhaps more can be done with LLVM.
I was actually suggesting something more radical than this. Having a turing
complete interpreter available at compile time with access to the data
used to represent the data flow analysis. This is what I mean by rope
to hang yourself by. This isn't done currently for many reasons.
1. its a sledgehammer to crack a nut (though it is more general purpose)
- as Andrei points out he can do myriad useful things today without this
2. compiler authors are rightly uneasy about exposing internal
data-structures at compile time
3. compiler authors are rightly uneasy permitting activities that can
result in longer compile times and especially infinitely long compile
times (though templates
make this possible)
4. many programmers are uneasy about marrying different programming styles.
One of D's successes is actually in making template meta-programming more
like regular procedural/functional
OO programming and less like pattern matching / logical / declarative
That makes it more comprehendable to the masses which is a good thing.
But it also hides the possibility of slipping a constraint solver in there.
Though I don't think the CTFE system and templates are powerful enough to
write an interpreter in.
You don't have access to state information except through arguments that
are constant expressions.
It would be unnecessarily challenging to make this state mutable from
different places in the program,
if its even possible. This is where a multi-level language might win.
I like the idea of possibly generating two different function
implementations internally for the
internal optimizer. However, I was suggesting the analysis is focused on
contracts at interface boundaries.
October 06, 2008Re: Positive
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > Hello, > > > (Background: Walter has kindly allowed ".()" as an alternative to the > ugly "!()" for template argument specifications.) > > Just a quick question - I am feeling an increasing desire to add a > template called Positive to std.typecons. Then Positive.(real) would > restrict its values to only positive real numbers etc. > > The implementation would accept conversion from its base type, e.g. > Positive.(real) can be constructed from a real. The constructor enforces > dynamically the condition. Also, Positive.(real) accepts implicit > conversion to real (no checking necessary). > > There are many places in which Positive can be useful, most notably > specifications of interfaces. For example: > > Positive.(real) sqrt(Positive.(real) x); From the IEEE definition of sqrt(x), x can be >=0, which includes -0. For negative zero, the return result is -0. However, not all positive-valued functions will accept -0 as an argument. They also vary in whether or not they will accept an infinity or a NaN. So there's an annoying bit of complication. > These specifications are also efficient because checking for positivity > is done outside sqrt; if you had a Positive.(real) to start with, there > is no cascading checking necessary so there's one test less to do. > > However, there is also the risk that Positive has the same fate the many > SafeInt implementation have had in C++: many defined them, nobody used > them. What do you think? If you had Positive in std and felt like > crunching some numbers, would you use it? I think it probably is similar to SafeInt in C++. It just doesn't add enough value. Essentially, it allows you to drop some trivial contracts. But I don't think it scales particularly well. As math functions gain more arguments, the relationships in the 'in' contracts tend to get more complicated. Much more useful would be positive int. Meaning, the top bit of the int is always 0, which is a completely different concept to uint. Then we could have implicit conversion from posint -> int and posint -> uint, and disallow conversions between int <-> uint. But really I'd like to see polysemous types first...
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:50:47 -0500,
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Alexander Panek wrote:
> > Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> >> The problem I see with "!" as a template instantiation is not
> >> technical. I write a fair amount of templated code and over years the
> >> "!" did not grow on me at all. I was time and again consoled by Walter
> >> than one day that will happen, but it never did. I also realized that
> >> Walter didn't see a problem with it because he writes only little
> >> template code.
> >>
> >> I didn't have much beef with other oddities unique to D. For example,
> >> I found no problem accommodating binary "~" and I was wondering what
> >> makes "!" different. I was just looking at a page full of templates
> >> and it looked like crap.
> >>
> >> One morning I woke up with the sudden realization of what the problem
> >> was: the shouting.
> >>
> >> In C, "!" is used as a unary operator. That may seem odd at first, but
> >> it nevers follows a word so it's tenuous to associate it with the
> >> natural language "!". In D, binary "!" _always_ follows a word, a
> >> name, something coming from natural language. So the conotation with
> >> exclamation jumps at you.
> >>
> >> That's why I find the choice of "!" poor. I believe it can impede to
> >> some extent acquisition of templates by newcomers, and conversely I
> >> believe that using .() can make templates more palatable. I tried
> >> using ".()" in my code and in only a couple of days it looked and felt
> >> way better to me. Based on that experience, I suggest that "!()" is
> >> dropped in favor of ".()" for template instantiation for D2.
> >>
> >> Sean's argument that "The exclamation mark signifies an assertion of
> >> sorts" is exactly where I'd want templates not to be: they should be
> >> blended in, not a hiccup from normal code. Serious effort has been,
> >> and still is, made in D to avoid shell-shocking people about use of
> >> templates, and I think ".()" would be a good step in that direction.
> >
> > Sean has a point. Templates are not runtime constructs. So a clear
> > distinction between instantiating a function with a given type and just
> > calling a function that has fixed argument types and a fixed return type
> > is necessary.
> Why? This sounds objective, so you better back it up. Au contraire, I
> see absolutely, but absolutely no need for a distinction. If it weren't
> for syntactic difficulties, to me using straight parentheses for
> template instantiation would have been the perfect choice. (How many
> times did you just forget the "!"? I know I often do. Why? Because most
> of the time it's not even needed.)
> > The exclamation mark gives us this clear distinction and
> > has served well in terms of readability for me, especially because it
> > jumps out ? not because it?s an exclamation mark, thus having a meaning
> > in natural language, but rather just because of its form. A straight
> > vertical line with a dot underneath it. That just works perfectly well
> > as seperator between identifier/type and type argument.
> I believe the clear distinction is not only unnecessary, but
> undesirable. We should actively fight against it.
You have a problem with shouting. Not everyone has.
The distinction is important IMHO because the choice between template
and runtime is a speed/size tradeoff choice. It's better to make it
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> One morning I woke up with the sudden realization of what the problem
> was: the shouting.
Here's my (nutty) opinion:
Neither the "!" nor the "." really want to be there. I think the
language really *wants* to be using a bare set of parens for templates.
Because the language actually wants templates and functions to converge.
Instead of a special-case syntax for templates, and a set of special
rules for CTFE, and a whole set of parallel "static" statements (if,
else, foreach) and a special compile-type-only type construct (tuples),
just let D be D, either at runtime or compile type.
If a function could return a Type, and if that type could be used in a
Type Constructor, then you'd have all the magic template sauce you'd
need, and templates could happily converge themselves with regular
Hey! I told you it was going to be nutty!!!
October 06, 2008Re: shouting versus dotting
Posted in reply to Jarrett Billingsley
Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Chris R. Miller
> <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
>> The !() syntax seems to serve only as a heads up that it's a template.
>> Otherwise (as far as I can tell) a simple foo(int)(bar, baaz) would work
>> just as well as foo!(int)(bar, baaz).
> Unambiguous grammar, you fail it.
> foo(bar)(baz); // template instantiation or a chained call?
> This _can_ be _made_ to work, but it would mean that the parse tree
> would be dependent upon semantic analysis, and that just makes things
> slow and awful. I.e. C++.
I'd be happy to get rid of OpCall, which I've always found confusing and

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He said spirit of the DATA Act is important because figuring out program costs and presenting them at a granular level so people can understand it is a laudable goal. He said agencies have struggled to reconcile data, especially procurement information, to help their decision making process.
"I think the government, in my view, has the need to do more in the data standards areas. We have pockets of data standards, we don't really have data standards that run across the government," Gregg said. "The trick is to select a number of data standards that will help pass information back and forth, but not have such a huge number that it stops the machine from running. It's a challenge, but I think it's one that's needed whether or not the DATA Act passes."
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When asked if the DATA Act was too broad in the standards it's calling for, Gregg said it wasn't, but there is a need for more work on data standardization across the government.
The DATA Act would require the use of data standards as a way to make information more publicly accessible, help root out fraud, waste and abuse and fix some of the shortcomings of the Federal Financial Accountability and Transparency Act (FFATA).
"It makes it easier to compare federal spending across federal agencies by requiring the establishment of these governmentwide financial data standards. It strengthens FFATA by reforming and significantly improving USASpending.gov website, requiring monthly funding updates from each federal agency appropriations account, program activity and object class," said Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), a former OMB director and one of several co-authors of the bill. "It promotes greater accountability for federal funding by regular IG and GAO reporting on completeness, timeliness, quality and accuracy of data submitted to USASpending.gov. Finally, it simplifies federal award reporting by eliminating unnecessary duplications and streamlining what are now burdensome reporting requirements."
Portman added each of these is aimed at enhancing federal financial accountability through transparency and data quality.
The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee approved the amendment in the nature of substitute unanimously.
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee approved companion legislation in May, but it has not been brought to the floor for a full vote.
The bills differ in several ways, so if both bills make it through their respective legislative processes, lawmakers and the White House would have to figure out a compromise.
The administration hasn't offered an official position on the bill, but support seems to be growing.
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Paarl Boys' are still undefeated in 2012, and they extended their winning streak to six matches with a comfortable victory over Rondebosch at home. Boishaai dominated the first half as they held a 24-3 lead at the break, but Rondebosch came out a stronger team in the second stanza as the hosts failed to add to their advantage.
Paarl Gym came off a bye last weekend, and the rest did their boys well as they ran riot against Tygerberg (75-3). Outeniqua downed Boland Landbou 27-21, while Bishops thrashed Brackenfell 64-0.
Paarl Boys' 24 Rondebosch Boys' 3
Wynberg 54 Primrose RFC 0
Paarl Gym 75 Tygerberg 3
SACS 24 Stellenberg 11
Outeniqua 27 Boland Landbou 21
Drostdy 15 Oakdale 10
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Dale, who are showing great form this year, won convincingly at lowly Port Rex (64-19), while Hudson Park did well in a repsectable 17-14 defeat to Marlow.
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Queen's 29 Selborne 17
Die Brandwag 53 Muir 8
Dale 64 Port Rex 19
Nico Malan 28 Pearson 17
Graeme 18 Cambridge 20
Daniel Pienaar 26 Framesby 25
Michaelhouse have been impressive this year and they carried their fine form into their 24-22 away win over Westville. It was a tough game, but in the end, the visitors pulled through for the triumph.
Kearsney came off their break last weekend to thrash visiting St Charles 60-0, while Maritzburg College also had an easy outing against DHS (20-0).
Glenwood were held to a close contest against Hilton as the Green Machine only managed an 19-18 edging.
Kearsney 60 St Charles 0
Maritzburg College 20 DHS 0
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Word around NBA is Jazz G Alec Burks is available. Burks, the 12th overall draft pick in 2011, has played in just 5 of Jazz's 10 games.
Lottery pick 2 years ago, I liked him coming out of college. Any need for him? What would you guys be willing to give up?
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We already have Alec Burks on this team, he just goes by the name Austin Rivers.
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I like him, although I might be bias because we went to the same college. He's never really gotten a shot with Utah, played minimal minutes last year and still put up decent stats in terms of Fg% and 3pt %. I think he could be helpful for the hornets, still has much room for improvement. I'm not sure what they would ask for him, most likely draft picks I would assume. I don't feel like we'd really want to give up anyone besides henry, thomas, or carroll and I doubt they'd be very interested in any of them.
He is J.R. Smith-lite, but he has a brain. I'd take him, and play him at SF for us.
I love Burks- unfortunately we don't have any assets to give up. We dont own our 2nd rounder this year. Maybe Henry and some cash to help them buy out Raja Bell?
Idk man, if we trade for a wing it'd be nice if they were an established scorer rather than another young guy looking for minutes. But if we got him (for a decent deal) I wouldn't be opposed.
1st rounder (lottery protected next 3 years) + Henry??
Dominique Jones is also looking alright for Dallas right now, he could probably be had for cheap.
We need to add speed and athleticism at the wing position!
His one flaw coming out was his jumper wasn't there. Could do everything else. And was an excellent ball handler. Austin Rivers isn't a bad comparison, though he was more apt to take a mid-range jumper. I'd gladly unload Henry or Mason for him.
I wonder what Utah would even want for him? They seem pretty well set at every position. Picks I guess.
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I loved his game in College, but he hasn't shown much in Utah. I'd be willing to part with a young vet, but not anything very significant.
Inefficient slashers who can't shoot and does most of their damage at the FT line. Sounds familiar to me.
I'm pro Burks. If we can put together a package to trade I would think it would help us.
Here's your package: Burks and Big Al to NO, Jason Smith and Granger to Utah, Gordon to Indiana.
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Last season, the CW kicked things off in the fall with October premiere dates, and as the network announced Monday, June 24, it will be doing the same with its 2013 shows.
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Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:20 PM
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Posted 03 February 2003 - 05:58 PM
Even with the above I'm pleased with it. It runs better than my Kimber. This weekend I was hitting a pop can at 50 yds offhand with some regularity.
Posted 04 February 2003 - 11:11 AM
I don't know what the deal is with the three-sided slides; I think lighter weight.
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I would rather support someone I personally know with my $$$ when I can, even if it costs a bit more. I shoot in the same section with the smith I use and he has his rep on the line when I am shooting his gun because people know who built it. I think this gives goods smiths a reason to make sure your gun works great. People see a gun with problems and they tend to blame it on the smith, although as simple as these guns are, I think it has more to do with ammo and people tinkering with things they don't understand.
Posted 05 February 2003 - 01:48 PM
It will be a few weeks until it is ready, but I plan to update this thread with a range report. I'm taking the plunge so cross your fingers for me!
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I like the quality parts that off the shelf STI/SV have, but a good smith to fine tune those quality parts is better.
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One of our local shooter recently got an STI built up by Dawson. I hadn't handled a Daswon gun that was fitted from the ground up. The gun really exceeded all expectation that I had for it. I was impressed...I feel you will be pleased.
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A friend just ordered the Lexor package from Chuck. The Lexor package seemed to be a better deal in that it includes the Dawson fiber optic sight (installed). I haven't quite figured out the slide advantages/disadvantages yet. The one thing about it that totally turned me off was the Recoil Master that came installed. I can't believe that STI would claim this thing. My friends gun would not function from the start. It would fire a round and would fail to feed the next round. When I first handled the pistol and racked the slide, I thought my friend had dropped it in sand. It was "crunchy" feeling and I could actually get the slide to lock back without the slide stop! Turns out the Recoil Master had tool marks on it that the recoil spring was snagging on and the recoil plug was grabbing the marks too. Also, the head had metal "tags" hanging off of it that were rubbing the barrel. It looked like it was homemade. I polished the recoil master and honed out the recoil plug and it began working. My friend notified Chuck about it and Chuck put him in contact with STI customer service people who offered to send a new Recoil Master. That is nice but it doesn't address the fact that STI let the gun go out like that. Other than than, the pistol was nice and tight. The trigger was exactly 3.5 lbs and crisp.
If you order a factory built STI, just count on doing some work to it. Well, I am off to Florida. Take care.
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What would you get on it is the important question. The sights and trigger are about the only thing that really matter to me on any well built gun. As long as it shoot strait and everytime, the rest is personal taste so I would trust Benny if you don't know what you want. He probably know what works well together.
Posted 08 February 2003 - 06:34 AM
Loves2shoot I to like a good front sight and a good trigger I am going to have to get back on the phone with him and talk more to him about it
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Benny seems to be a no BS kinda guy.
He talked me out of a few things that in his opinion and experience make a gun less reliable.
"..we want this gun to be your best friend.." he said.
I hope to have the gun within 2 months.
I'll give you guys a review and a few pictures as soon as I get it.
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Same for you!:-)
- Thanks!
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- Concerned Guest
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Do you need a Sunset?
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Come back home and do not lie more... Have a nice week end to all
- Dahui78
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So now everyone knows you were the dweeb that was acting like multiple people and attacking collecters and sellers.
You also stoled those pics from another guy's sunset. I also have pics of them:
I got these photos from a guy who was trying to sell me his sunset a while back.
So now your stealing photos from someone else's sunglasses, damn that's sad.
Enjoy your sunsetless weekend, while I enjoy mine
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The seller before ( fortunesun ) as been too patience with you or who wrote down the lime.
I always read this forum....it was a pleasure read, share opinion and learn about FC since there was Danboy and other guys.
Ethan Sunset Sunglasses i show it's mine...you contact me and tried to buy it from me taking profit.
Do you want to see my a.s wearing it?
Now stop please ... This thread as been ruined from you and people like you....I am very disappointed....
You are very young guy ...follow your hero and no not trash you time
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I Hope we can have now a good week end .
Ps. My English is not so bad as you said
- Dahui78
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Ps. My English is not so bad as you said
Not really.
I have more important things to do...live my life, my family, my friends ....that loose my time to discredit, attack peoples or play with People.
You just figured that out after being 3-4 different personas? Anyone can go back and see you were acting like multiple people on this thread by reading you're awful English.
Now stop please ... This thread as been ruined from you and people like you....I am very disappointed....
People like me? You are a piece of work man. You're the one that started this whole mess by attacking me and fortunesun, now that I have proven to everyone you were the one and only instigator you now act civilized. You're a fraud. IF you are the same guy I was in contact by e-mail, I am thankful I didn't buy them.
You are very young guy ...follow your hero and no not trash you time
I think acting out as 3-4 people is a bigger waste of time.
I have already proven my point and busted you, this is my last reply to you. Any other post by me will be replies to friendly guests and members, pics of my collection and info about Fight Club sunglasses.
Have a good weekend
P.S. You been busted by a 22yr old
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Oook than you admit that you were trying to buy my sunset sunglasses for profit...as you are doing now with used lenses you are trying to sell ...
Why reading user should believe in you? you lied several times in the forum, not me.
About Fortunatesun? All those who like FC and love Oliver Peoples know is a great seller on ebay and appreciate his sunglasses ... I agree with him that it is stupid to be here to talk about things that are not constructive.
'Man' We all understand that it is your heart friend ... stop with advertising ... He does not need it ...
Thanks for my nominee at the Oscar, I appreciate it ; but I repeat you Again I have absolutely no discredited no one as you're doing ... You have the wrong person ... and after that you ruined this thread ...
Finally I know you will shut up ... You wrote it.
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After this most recent post it appears you are the latter of the two.
You could have sold a million 'rare' [link=http://www.opticsplanet.com/sunglasses.html]sunglasses[/link], like OP 523, but some of these 'countless' [link=http://www.opticsplanet.com/rx-eyeglasses.html]glasses[/link] were produced in extremely limited quantities ergo you should expect people to have questions pertaining to '1999','2000', and '2009'
But I did find out a bit of exactly what is going on regarding that
'Made yesterday not possible?', what if someone told you some Sunsets were actually made after 1998-99?
As for the engraving, you state that have switched to print, what year did that occur? Did the wear and tear of those oils make them change the engraving from the bridge, of the frames to the left temples, I wonder if they made the numbers wear off as well. What if I told you an 'extremely' rare model (Sunset) were sold via the OP stores in 2008-2013?
But you would know about that better than everyone else right?
I'm not watching you, I am concerned consumer with concerns about lying sellers, who get extremely defensive over questions about their products, as an 'expert' you should be used to that.
Try not to shady in that area and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have an issues.
Your reputation is already pretty tarnished, honest people shouldn't have anything to hide, if you honestly think someone reporting you on ebay would instantly ruin you, you probably are hiding something from the honest consumers.
You could have hundreds of usernames on ebay like 'itisalwayssunny', 'thefortunatesun', but that doesn't make you appear very reputable.
I hope you don't think I'm mocking you now, just trying to get all the facts put out there for others, I'm done with this forum, OP, and the fight club movie items in general.
Really tired of the crooks and liars that are floating around. Have fun selling those 'countless' items buddy.
"Truth is the property of no individual but is the treasure of all man"
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- OP sunglasses
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Hey buddy, thats not for you, its almost 6:00am in Kentucky and time to go to sleep.
Sells your "rare" lenses for 350$ and lighters that not works;)
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Don't buy this crap: http://www.ebay.it/sch/dahui78/m.html?h ... 4340.l2562
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Don't buy this crap: http://www.ebay.it/sch/dahui78/m.html?h ... 4340.l2562[/quote]
Hey dude, your totaly wrong, thats not Dahui78
Stay down and shut up your mouth please
I have some gift for you for free:
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Let's please try to get on topic instead of personal attacks.
P.S. this isn't a thong thread, go somewhere else for that.
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Hey dude
I believe they don't need your help anymore, don't be
like Gollum please, that's not will help you have any lenses.
And don't touching please Dahui78, that's not he is, really.
Your Sunset fit you real cool!
Who sold them for you?
- To Gollum
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Btw, when you talked about Dahui78 that's was not personal slander?
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MISENHEIMER, N.C. – Bobby Stewart, athletic director at Pfeiffer University, has announced Jason P. Smith will become the next head coach of the Falcons men's soccer program. Smith brings an extensive background to Pfeiffer including a four-year stint with the Atlanta Silverbacks of the United Soccer League (USL).
During his tenure as head coach and general manager with the Silverbacks, Smith led the way for Atlanta setting numerous franchise records with a runner-up finish in the USL's first division in 2007. Under Smith, the Silverbacks became a national contender on the pitch and the most prolific offensive team in the league. As general manager, Smith also handled player recruitment and contract negotiations for the franchise.
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"It's great to be here in New Bern, the first capital of North Carolina," he said.
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Jim Perry, vice president of operations with the Kinston-based Affordable Care Inc., attended McCrory's speech with Bell.
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McCrory is the first Republican governor of North Carolina since Jim Martin led the state during the early 1990s.
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WORST: Lady Gaga was nearly walking on stilts, stepping out in London wearing a sheer white frock.
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BEST: Sandra Bullock looked professionally chic in NYC, wearing a poufy-shouldered coat with skinny jeans and knee-high boots in NYC.
WORST: Nick Cannon does all his own nude scenes. Um, okay!
BEST: Rosie Huntington-Whiteley hit the tanning salon in NYC, showing off her supermodel style in totally chic fur vest, leather leggings and bomber jacket.
BEST: Kim showed off her Kardashian curves at the NYC opening of DASH, wearing a super sexy alice + olivia by Stacey Bendet Nika sequin dress with black peep-toes.
WORST: Kourtney Kardashian was awkwardly attired for the NYC opening of DASH, pairing leopard heels with ill-fitting black duds.
BEST: Khloe Kardashian showed off her covetable curves in a sculpted LBD at the NYC opening of DASH.
BEST: Tina Fey looked gorgeous in a retro cocktail dress, which she paired with Christian Louboutin heels and Lorraine Schwartz jewels for the NYC premiere of Megamind.
BEST: Kate Mara looked cool in an aqua-hued Peter Som Spring 2011 mini dress at the Los Angeles premiere of 127 Hours pairing the fab frock with contrasting ruby heels.
BEST: Amber Tamblyn stuck out at the Los Angeles premiere of 127 Hours, wearing a Mad Men-esque Kelly Green Yves Saint Laurent Couture vintage dress with nude Christian Louboutin heels.
BEST: Minnie Driver showed off her flawless figure in a skintight mini at the Los Angeles premiere of 127 Hours.
BEST: Juliette Lewis hit the Los Angeles premiere of 127 Hours wearing a figure-flattering floral frock with strappy Jimmy Choo heels.
WORST: Ariel Winter hit the Los Angeles premiere of 127 Hours dressed in Boho not-so-chic duds.
WORST: Joan Collins looked tres Dynasty dining with Jackie at Mr. Chow in Beverly Hills, wearing a sharp-shouldered blazer, which Rihanna would probably love to get her paws on.
BEST: Julianne Moore looked sexy and sophisticated at the Bvlgari Express for Save The Children Party, wearing a partially lace Alexander McQueen Resort 2011 dress with Bvlgari jewels and clutch.
BEST: Madonna looked strikingly sexy at the Fashion Has A Heart Award Presentation in NYC, wearing a dazzling mini dress with Stella McCartney thigh high perforated boots.
BEST: Molly Sims looked red hot in a Marchesa shift dress, which featured beaded cuffs and neckline with a Marchesa clutch, black tights and heels at the 5th Annual Fashion Delivers Gala.
BEST: Carmen Electra looked white hot at the Lavazza Marquee at the Melbourne Cup Carnival.
WORST: Eliza Doolittle was dressed to shock at the InStyle and Dolce & Gabbana party in London.
WORST: Johnny Weir had a fashion fur pas, wearing his fem neckpiece with a beaded blazer, cuffed trousers and Christian Louboutin studded leopard loafers at David Yurman's Men's Collection preview in NYC. Read about the Olympic skater's life and style mantra at dot429.
BEST: Newly out of the closet, Ricky Martin signed copies of his memoir ŒMe' at Borders in NYC, dressed in city smart duds.
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