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Neroli Sauvage
Xmas shopping and I need a fragrance for a man. 23. Does wear fragrance but only the one bottle he gets from his mom or sister every year (and it changes year to year, he's never expressed strong feelings for any of them and they've all been mainstream/dept. store brands, not that there's anything wrong with that ). I want to get him something niche. I am half tempted to get him a Creed because it's known enough that he would recognize the brand (and appreciate it) but it would also be that little bit 'special' in his eyes.
He thinks he wants something edgy, but he doesn't. There's no way he would wear anything floral, for example. Subtle, masculine, modern, conservative. Niche houses preferred because he'll appreciate the aura of exclusivity. I'm tempted by Byredo Sunday Cologne but a)it's expensive for something he hasn't sniffed and b)Barney's is out of it and I don't know where else to get it in North America. Gourmand is also out unless it's extremely well blended with other, non-gourmand notes. Nothing too strong or too sillage-y, either. Clean and/or aquatic could be OK but nothing astringent or too herbaceous.
What do i get for the male non-perfume risk-taker who thinks he's a risk-taker, is what i'm asking. Any ideas?
"It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that." As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well so fucking what." - Stephen Fry
Neroli Sauvage
Aventus is the Creed that is all the rage and one I think he would appreciate at his age.
Creed is always a safe choice... Something like Bois d'Orage by EdP Frederic Malle might be a more distinctive choice though. Maybe Cuoio by Odori might fit the bill as well. Both are sold at Barneys.
Current Top Favorites:
1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
3) Dia Man vintage edt (Amouage)
4) Anat Fritz Original Formula and Classical (Anat Fritz) - tie
4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie
6) Les Nombres d'Or Vetyver (Mona di Orio)
7) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
8) Tzora (Anat Fritz)
9) Javanese Patchouli (Zegna) - tie
9) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
9) Coeur de Vetiver Sacré (L'Artisan) - tie
9) X for Men (Clive Christian) - tie
9) Patou pour Homme Privé (Jean Patou) - tie
9) Oud Shamash (The Different Company) - tie
A second vote for Aventus.
I'd go for CDG2 man. CDG is a niche and very avantgarde line. CDG2 man is not particularly traditional, but it is fairly conservative, lemony incense, neither sweet nor particularly heavy. If it were found in Montreal (but I don't think so), I'd also say Etat Libre d'Orange Je suis un homme, which is a traditional woody masculine with a quirky logo and packaging.
I personally don't like Creed, and it is quite expensive, but many other people do.
Thanks for recs - 2 for Aventus, I am somewhat familiar with the Creed line (not a fan, but not a non-fan either, I like the Virgin island Water) and the one that came to mind was Green Irish Tweed. Any thoughts on that vs Aventus? I havent sniffed Aventus but I think of it as 'sporty' - is it?
Also thinking Lutens L'Eau Froide, CdG Hinoki (is this VERY woody or just somewhat woody?), Henrik Vibskov Type C (this sound really promising - would love to hear from anyone who has sniffed), Maison Francis K Aqua Universalis and Parfums MDCI Invasion Barbare. Any comments welcome.
I'm going to go read some reviews of the others recs, so thanks for those. CdG would be a brand he'd appreciate, I think.
"It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that." As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well so fucking what." - Stephen Fry
You can't go wrong with Terre d'Hermes, may not be considered niche but it's close enough! If not then one of Tom Ford's private blends, Noir de Noir or Oud wood. If you think he can handle a floral then get him MFK Lumiere Noire pour homme.
Oh dear, just checked out the Etat line and the Tom of Finland one sounds perrrfect. Unfortunately there is no way he would be able to get past the bottle decor. I wonder if I could repackage it with some boobs on it or something? Ha ha.
Edit: Hawk, I checked out that MFK Lumiere Homme earlier, and the floral is what makes it a no-go. This is your classic 'I want to be edgy and avant garde but not REALLY' situation, ya know?
"It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that." As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well so fucking what." - Stephen Fry
Green Irish Tweed would be my pick from Creed. I think it's a "safer" pick for a non-perfume-risk-taker than Aventus. I don't know if Tom Ford is considered niche or not, but you aren't going to find his stuff at a Macy's I'd look there as well. Tom Ford for Men or even Tom Ford for Men Extreme are a couple scents that might fit what you're looking for (I'd still say GIT is a "safer" choice than those, however).
"We don't fail because we aim too high and miss, but because we aim too low and hit" - Les Brown
"When you're all alone, when no one is watching, and there's no one around to impress, that is who you are" - Greg Laurie
by the way, Byredo is available at Holt in Toronto and Vancouver, if you're in Montreal then they'll order it for you and you pick it up at Holt Montreal.
It's hard for me to make recommendations based on "impressiveness" or "fashion consciousness" or "eliteness". I'd choose CdG2 Man any day over just about any Creed fragrance, actually. I hate to say it, but it almost sounds like you want to get him "niche" not because it's better, but because you perceive him to be a bit shallow and easily impressed by a flashy name and a larger pricetag. There are "non-niche" (is that a word?) fragrances that smell great, and it seems to me that I'd prefer something that smells great over a fancy but not delightful one. But I do understand the cachet of getting something that reeks of exclusivity and specialness. How about Idole de Lubin? Or L'Artisan Timbuktu? Tauer Lonestar Memories?
My vote would be for Green Irish Tweed as well, but Aventus would probably be a winner as well. IMO it's hard to go wrong with those 2 Creeds.
Aventus easy for 23. All chicks is his
I'll go against the grain and give a minus 1 to the Aventus recs. I find it an OK fragrance, but nothing special, and nowhere near Green Irish Tweed from a quality perspective. It is not really a "sport" fragrance to answer your question, but instead opens with a deceptively strong synthetic pineapple that is quite pleasant smelling. Unfortunately it then morphs into a mundane faux smoky scent that projects like crazy and gets annoying real fast... At least to me, that is.
Green Irish Tweed is probably my favorite from the house of Creed (which is not one of my favorite houses in general). It is extremely versatile and always a safe choice from a scent perspective. That said, while safe from a scent perspective, the biggest risk is that folks (including the gent you are purchasing it for) will make the inevitable association with Cool Water. Many here consider the association absolute sacrilege, however I am not one... I used to wear the vintage Cool Water when it initially was released and it was exceptional. So I hardly think comparing GIT to it is so terrible, more like a compliment as far as I am concerned (even though GIT is really the original as it was released first). Most folks have never smelled "the good stuff." Fair or not, that is the real risk with going with GIT...
Current Top Favorites:
1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
3) Dia Man vintage edt (Amouage)
4) Anat Fritz Original Formula and Classical (Anat Fritz) - tie
4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie
6) Les Nombres d'Or Vetyver (Mona di Orio)
7) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
8) Tzora (Anat Fritz)
9) Javanese Patchouli (Zegna) - tie
9) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
9) Coeur de Vetiver Sacré (L'Artisan) - tie
9) X for Men (Clive Christian) - tie
9) Patou pour Homme Privé (Jean Patou) - tie
9) Oud Shamash (The Different Company) - tie
Another vote for Aventus
More of a conservative personality - G.I.T. A bit more spirited and daring - Aventus. Either way, you really cannot go wrong.
Another for Aventus or CdG 2 Man.
You are probably right in thinking he doesn't really know what edgy can mean in scent, but you can be edgy/non-conventional without necessarily leaning in the floral/fem direction.
It can be easier for guys to get into if it is edgy whilst utilizing notes that are conventionally regarded as masculine (wood, smoke, incense...).
Then again, fragrance is so personal, it is probably safest to go with accessible niche like Aventus or GIT unless you can go sampling together and get a better idea of his tastes (which he probably doesn't know yet himself).
I'm going to weigh in with another bump for Creed, but My vote goes to Silver Mountain Water or Millesime Imperial. Both excellent fresh, clean, masculine frags. GIT is great but it's been cloned by the likes of Cool Water and Coty Aspen and I'm just not that big a fan of green notes, as much as I try to be!
+1 Aventus.
Regarding your ideas in the previous post:
Lutens L'Eau Froide is interesting, cold fresh synthetic, very unLutensian though. If you want fresh, a cheaper thing would be CDG Vettiveru.
CdG Hinoki is very woody, but still somewhat fresh. Another great choice in CDG.
Henrik Vibskov Type C: is that the marine in the line? I smelled all three in the store, and was unimpressed - I felt there's better stuff in the style of all three. And the marine one was really strongly so. The leathery one was somewhat interesting, but there are many leathers that are much better than that. For instance the wonderful, smooth Tom of Finland. By the way, regrettably the ELdO bottles do not carry the logo (why ELDO uses plain bottles is a mystery). But the ToF does have the macho guy on the box.
Maison Francis K Aqua Universalis is a good, smooth white musk. But a little simple. I use the associated laundry detergent.
Parfums MDCI Invasion Barbare: very expensive. But a very good nugere (or new fougere), classical masculine fougere like but with modern molecules.
Silver Mountain Water or Aventus
Current favorites_____Black Tourmaline_____Gucci Pour Homme II_____Memoir Man_____Tuscan Leather______Montale Aoud and Pine_____Sel Marin_____Invasion Barbare_____Tonka Imperial____Dior Homme Intense_____L'Humaniste____Santal 33_____Bois d'Argent_____Nio_____MFK Oud_____Lumiere Noire_____Bois d'Encens_____Cuir Ottoman
Yet another +1 for Aventus.
Tom of Finland would really be great too, but I understand your worry about the packaging. I think Je Suis un Homme from Etat Libre might also be worth checking out.
As regards Sunday Cologne, the longevity for that is very poor. I can imagine someone who's not really into fragrance being put off by that. (I can imagine people who are into fragrance being put off by that!)
Current Top Five:
1. Bois des Iles--Chanel
2. George Sand--Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier
3. L'Ame Soeur--Divine
4. Violet Blonde--Tom Ford
5. Santal Blush--Tom Ford
Can someone flesh out why Aventus is getting so many recs? Is it because it fits my original description of what I'm looking for? Because a strong pineapple note doesn't sound (I havent sniffed it) like it fits that... but the comments are making me give it real thought.
I don't think pricetag will impress him but the exclusivity of a brand name will, he is one of those people who sort of prides himself on being 'different'. Or should I say on being perceived to be different.I hate to say it, but it almost sounds like you want to get him "niche" not because it's better, but because you perceive him to be a bit shallow and easily impressed by a flashy name and a larger pricetag.
Right now I'm leaning towards the CdG 2, the GIT, the MDCI (thank you for your specific comments, Cacio!) and also the Aventus, despite the fact that I'm not sure why it's getting so many recs.
"It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that." As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well so fucking what." - Stephen Fry
Aventus is both a sophisticated scent that is not sweet per se but starts of a bit fruity and turns to a slightly smoky woody scent. Definately masculine but also suitable for a man his age or any age. Classy. Women love it too.
I will offer some different suggestions. Consider Maître Parfumeur et Gantier's Santal Noble. Also if he wants to get into fragrances why just one? I might suggest Mona Di Oreo's Diacovery Box with 8 different scents. Perhaps he will find one he really loves and all of her scents are modern and either unisex or decidedly masculine. Just a thought...
Some Favorites
1. Amouage Epic man
2. Dior Leather Oud
3. Perris Monte Carlo Oud Imperial Black
4. Le Labo Patchouli 24
5. Amouage Opus VII
6. Byredo Bullion
7. Masque Milano Russian Tea
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
I'll chime in and give a "no" to Aventus. First of all, I think that people are strangely obsessed with the stuff...it's a little creepy how some people are so attached to it. I don't see what's so special about it...I've smelled it quite a few times and it's never done a thing for me. But, I must be missing something, and I'm ok with that. And, I don't think it really fits what you are looking for...it's just that you mentioned Creed so immediately everyone just goes to Aventus or GIT. Personally, I think GIT would fit what you are looking for more than Aventus. But, I'm not a huge fan of any of the Creeds including GIT, but it's a little safer and I think that safer would be a little better for a guy that doesn't think much about frags.
As far as CDG is concerned, I love this house. 2 Man is great, but it gets a little powdery and that might be a bit a little of a turn off to him if he's not used to that. I personally love Dover Street Market. It's not a super popular CDG, but man is it good. It's got a little incense, a little coriander and it's just a great frag. Some people don't like it a lot because they say it is too "safe" for CDG, or good for a beginner to the CDG house, but it's awesome. If you think he might like CDG because it's a little different and a little out there then that would be my suggestion. There are far more "out there" frags from the house that he could get into if he liked it's vibe. And, at $85 bucks for 100ml you can't really go wrong with it. He won't find very many others smelling like him as they would with Aventus...I almost feel like Aventus is becoming THE mainstream niche.
Original Santal. The bottle is cool looking and it's Creeds best offering for the younger gentleman.
If you do want one niche bottle, I think Maison Francis Kurkdjian Amyris pour Homme is a great option as it is masculine, safe, modern, and smells great.
Aventus has quite a following but it may be risky as bottles have varying profiles- the sample I got was overpoweringly smoky. Millesime Imperial would be my top choice from Creed, but it is more of a summer scent, which is something to keep in mind as a Christmas gift.
I second Bois d'Orage.
A few other good options:
Kristiansand New York
Knize Sec
Parfum d'Empire - Eau de Gloire
"You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality." - Ayn Rand
"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical...It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson
Creed GIT is pretty safe.
Bond Nº 9 Great Jones
#TOP 5#: Penhaligons Racquets,Jean Pascal Homme,Romeo Gigli Uomo,ST Barth Homme,Domenico Caraceni
AVENTUS IS SO MAINSTREAM NOW! UGH! ENough with Aventus already.
CDG 2MAN is a great choice. So to is "Dover Street Market" by CDG.
If you want something you can buy at Barneys...
....That is truley unique....
...one of a kind....
...and FUN to reveal when people ask what you are wearing...
...pick one any of the Escentric Molecules 6 scents. (8 if you count Kinski and Beautiful Mind)
I would steer you toward Kinski first, Molecule 03, and Molecule 01 they are 3 of my most often worn and favorite scents. And really nothing beats telling someone you are wearing "Molecule 03".
thats my 2 cents
Not niche but very safe scents and not something you can buy everywhere, might be the kind of thing you're looking for since he is young and these are both up to date:
I would not go for the Tauer frags if he is conservative. If it has to be niche then something safe:
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Here are a few legit suggestions that fit what he wants:
- Tom Ford - Tobacco Vanille
- something amber-y like Mona Di Orio - Ambre
There are a few scents like the Tom Ford that are niche and smell different/out there, but are REALLY good and it'd be hard to not like them. Also, Tom Ford's a name he'd recognize that revels in how exclusive it is, and that's the scent most people consider to be the best of the TF's.
My second suggestion regarding ambers is that they're not mainstream, but they're also not offensive and again he'd be hard-pressed to just downright hate it.
Last edited by Made in California; 30th November 2012 at 11:40 AM.
+1 for Aventus
GIT is a safe bet.
Cannot go wrong with both in my opinion.
Another for Aventus.
It's just that damn good imo!!!!
Idole de Lubin - Eau de Parfum.
What a great bottle as well.
Have a look at Histoires de Parfum 1725 Casanova. A citrus opening, with a woody / amber / vanilla base.
Pretty conservative, but well made with it.
-1 on Aventus, or Creed for that matter. If I plan on going niche the last thing I'd do is to choose a very popular 'niche' ( an oxymoron of sorts, lol). My pick of niche for a 23 yr old guy will be along the lines of:
By Kilian Straight to Heaven
Frederic Malle Vetiver Extraordinaire
Histoires de Parfums 1725
L'Artisan Parfumeur's Safran Troublant
MFK Cologne pour le Matin
Diptyque 34 Blvd St Germaine
Serge Lutens Douce Amere
L'Occitane - Eau des Baux (2006)
TOP 3 hot weather:
1. Gucci Pour Homme II
2. Lalique Encre Noire
3. Creed Millesime Imperial
TOP 3 cold weather:
1. Dior Homme
2. Eau Des Baux
3. L'Instant de Guerlain Pour Homme Extreme
Vetiver Extraordinaire
If you are looking @ Creed... I agree that Virgin Island Water would be a good choice.... I am not a Aventus fan, the only other Creed fragrance I like is Bois du Portugal but that is a little more mature in my mind... In the Bond No. 9 line you might try Riverside Dr. or as previously mentioned Great Jones. In the By Kilian line A Taste Of Heaven is just that and the packaging is exquisite. Carthusia's Numero Uno is nice and 1920 Extreme by Bois 1920....both available @ Barney's....
You describe him as conservative so some tried and true scents might be more in his line. I would go for:
Eau Sauvage by Dior
Terre d'Hermes by Hermes
Habit Rouge by Guerlain
Seriously, to blind buy a niche which will be $150-$200 for a non-perfumer is nuts unless you truly have money to burn. In that case go for it. How about Paco Rabanne 1 Million? It has a trendy bottle, and can be gotten for under $100 It looks and smells trendy and if he hates it it won't become a $200 bathroom air freshener
Sorry but, 1 million is a scent for teenagers. And doesn't fit the description at all.
I'd second FM Bois d'Orage. Distinct 'unique' smell, he would probably like the FM concept, but the smell is still manly and conservative.
She wants to buy a niche fragrance for someone who isn't into fragrance at all. She obviously doesn't care about price. And 50 ml is 'only' $165.
After having read the question again it looks likes she's searching for the most mainstream niche scent there is. Which is probably Aventus. But that one is verry strong and has allot of sillage. And Bois d'Orage is pretty herbacious.
Last edited by Adrem; 30th November 2012 at 11:39 PM.
How about a Bond No 9 if price is no object? If you are willing to blind buy a $200 bottle...They are trendy, and NY Amber is safe, as is Riverside Drive, or even Andy Warhol silver factory. Expensive? yes, Niche? yes, mainstream? mostly...and the projection/longevity is incredible...BTW, I didn't find 1 Million cloying at all, or even sweet. I tested it at a mall and got a compliment from a SA a half hour later in a different store...it is just "stereotyped as teen" so sophisticated BN'ers won't touch it
Last edited by Possum-Pie; 1st December 2012 at 12:16 AM.
Does it have to be Creed? I think it's kind of sad to buy a Creed only because he knows it is expensive.
If it has to be Creed - royal oud.
You might also consider
Serge Lutens - five o clock (if you can still find it - it will be available in Paris only, I call that exclusive)
Sycomore by Chanel
Vetiver by Dior privee (great, safe Vetiver, to be discontinued)


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Funded Research Activities with Centre of Excellence in Research on AIDS (CERiA). Projects are extensive and include epidemiological studies with vulnerable populations including prisoners, female sex workers, men who have sex with men and people who inject drugs. Current studies also include those involving HIV, TB, substance abuse and intervention research. This is a Fogarty International Global Health Equity Scholars site.
- HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis and Addiction
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- Resident
- Yale University School of Medicine, Infectious Diseases
- Fellow
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- Board Certification
- Internal Medicine, Board Certified (1989)
Honors & Recognition
- National Hope is a Vaccine" Award Recipient
GAIA, Global Alliance to Immunize against AIDS (2008)
- Appointed as Icon Professor of Medicine, Centre for Excellence in Research in AIDS (CERiA) at University of Malaya
Infectious Diseases Unit, Department of Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, University of Malaya (2009)
- Board of Permanent Officers
Yale University School of Medicine (2009)
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Yog Dipika
Yog Dipika, the Gujarati translation of Guruji Iyengars classic Light on Yoga has now been published by the Light on Yoga Research Trust.
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Growing Young is a fun-filled activity book pertaining to Iyengar Yoga. It contains word mazes, crosswords, image games, puzzles, riddles, quizzes and a variety of entertaining educative activities. All these activities are based on the classical texts for an Iyengar Yoga practitioner mainly "Light on Yoga" and "Light on Yoga Sutra-s of Patanjali" as well as the various books authored by Guruji, Geetaji and Prashantji.
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by Yogacharya B.K.S Iyengar
This Guru Purnima, we were blessed by Guruji in a unique manner – a book on the yaugika manas (Yogic mind).
This book isan articulation of the thoughts of Yogacharya BKS Iyengar and is a study of the mind by the mind to reveal the mysteries and enigma of the mind.
The root of the individual mind is the cosmic mind. This mind plays a dual role as it gets polluted when it comes in contact with the pleasure giving objects of the world. It then gets converted into the bhogika mind or the pleasure seeking mind. Such a mind slips into the ocean of infatuation and passion. It is essential to transform the pleasure seeking mind into a disciplined yaugika state of mind by diverting it with the organs of action and senses of perception.
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Light on Life:
Guruji's latest book, Light on Life will be released September
26, 2005 in Estes Park, Colorado, USA. It is only natural that
thousands are eagerly awaiting this book by one whom New York
Times calls as "one of the most penetrating writers on yoga
alive today".
As one of the editorial reviews on the book
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this new and more complete understanding of the yogic journey.
Here Iyengar explores the yogic goal to integrate the different
parts of the self (body, emotions, mind, and soul), the role that
the yoga postures and breathing techniques play in our search
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from progressing along the path, and how yoga can transform our
lives and help us to live in harmony with the world around us.
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and examples from modern culture to illustrate the profound gifts
that yoga offers. Written with the depth of this sage's
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spiritual genius, a treasured companion to his seminal Light on
Light on Yoga :
in - English, Dutch, French, German, Hebrew, Hungarian,
Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Russian, Spanish, Ukranian
and also in Gujrati, Hindi, Kannada, Marathi.
This book is the magnum opus of yoga which was first published
in 1965 in English. This "Bible"
of yoga has been translated in many languages. It has been called
the "fullest, most practical and best illustrated book on the
subject" with more than 600 illustrations. It starts with the
explanation on "What is Yoga ?" and then the intricate details
on how to perform more than 200 postures. It also introduces pranayamas,
bandhas and kriyas.
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Light on Pranayama :
in - English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean,
Persian, Polish, Russian, Spanish and also in Hindi, Marathi.
This book is a worthy companion and sequel to the Light on Yoga.
The book is practical and a thorough guide for those who wish
to learn the art of pranayama. The book discusses the respiratory
system from the point of view of modern anatomy and ancient yoga
texts. It also describes the difficulties and dangers that one
may encounter during pranayama practice.
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Light on Yoga Sutras of Patanjali
Available in - English, German and
Sage Patanjali was the first to systematically codify the ancient
science of Yoga into 196 terse aphorisms (sutras) about 2000 years
ago. These sutras are the profound study of the human psyche.
Light on Yoga Sutras of Patanjali is a unique edition which contains
a new translation and commentary by Guruji. He has enriched the
text with the wealth of his own wisdom and experience on the subject.
The book is of immense value to students of Indian philosophy
as well as practitioners of Yoga.
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Light on Asthanga Yoga :
Available in - English.
latest publication by Guruji was released in July 1999. This book
resonates his clarity and precision in his constant endeavour
to make us understand the science of yoga. He explains the root
cause of sorrow - desires and afflictions - and how man tries
to be free of it. He makes us realise our own weaknesses. He then
explains consciousness, types of consciousness and how they are
tainted by afflictions. This marks the introduction of Asthanga
Although Asthanga Yoga seems a small part of the Yoga Sutras of
Patanjali, it covers the microcosm of man and the macrocosm of
the Universe. Thus, begins the heart of "Light on Asthanga
Yoga" where the reader is made to understand each of the
eight aspects with great lucidity.
Art of Yoga :
in - English, Japanese and Persian.
This book is an expression of Guruji's artistic interpretation
of the body, mind and soul. The large photographs in this volume
with very apt quotes focuses the attention of the practitioner
and transmit expressions of delicate balance and comfort, grace
and poise, charm and beauty. The book is a visual delight and
an aesthetic experience.
Tree of Yoga
Available in - English, French,
German, Italian, Persian, Polish, Portugese and Spanish.
This book is a selection of essays
by Guruji on variety of subjects. There is unique analogy between
the 8 limbs of yoga and the development of a tree from a seed.
It is a great joy to read this comparison.
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Illustrated Light on Yoga
in - English, Persian, Spanish and also in Bengali, Hindi,
Tamil and Telugu.
This book is a straight forward
and comprehensive introduction for the beginner by an acknowledged
expert on the subject. It includes an introduction to the philosophy
and practice of Yoga, detailed description of 57 key postures
and a 35 week course progressing from beginner to intermediate
Arogya Yoga :
in - Kannada and Marathi.
This is a compilation of articles published in the Sunday edition
of the Marathi daily Sakal since 1998. In this series of articles,
Guruji has written about various asanas with illustrations. The
articles are very detailed and the language is very direct. Reading
the book is like taking a class at Iyengar Institute.
Yoga - Ek Kalpataru :
Available in - Marathi.
This is the first book written in Marathi by Guruji. It gives
the reader a new insight towards Yoga as it covers the subject
from various angles. It sheds light on the importance and relevance
of yoga in today's life. It explains how the modern man
can improve his health as well as attain spiritual heights with
the practice of yoga.
Yoga - A path to Holistic
Health :
This book explains the philosophy of the yoga sutras in a practical
manner which makes it possible for the modern man to relate to
ancient wisdom. It explains how the props can be used for performing
the different asanas. It also provides the sequence of asanas
for 38 common ailments ranging from common colds to cardiac problems.
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Astadala Yoga Mala - 1 :
Asta Dala Yoga Mala is a series of books which is a compilation
of Guruji's teachings over the years. The first volume consists
of autobiographical articles on the influence of yoga in his life
and on his experiences with his Guru.
The remaining sections are
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Astadala Yoga Mala - 2 :
The second volume in this series is the vision of Guruji.
It contains
the distillation of his thought following his long-standing sadhana.
Astadala Yoga Mala - 3 :
This volume contains not only the matured intellectual vision
of Guruji but takes the practitioner into the interior parts of
the consciousness.
This volume includes subjects ranging from
therapeutics to academics and sports, practice and the teaching
of yoga.
Astadala Yoga Mala - 4 :
This volume was released on the Annual day of RIMYI on January
25, 2004. This volume is a compilation of question and answer
sessions with Guruji from 1958 to 1984. It contains Guruji's answers
for questions on personal, practical and philosophical aspects.
Astadala Yoga Mala - 5 :
Astadala Yoga Mala 5 like volume 4, is a compilation of a remarkable
variety of interviews of Guruji. The interview format means there
is immediacy and shared intimacy with the reader who can feel
the experience of being a witness to the dialogue between the
interviewer and Guruji. Some interviews bring out the meaning
of the subject of yoga on different levels. Guruji always turns
the occasion to always give us a clear and lucid account of the
path. His answers are never personal but universally applicable.


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Even getting 50 coins is easy.. One day of dailies on the Isle and killing rares, gets you close.
Since raiding on my main is my primary focus -- I've enjoyed MOP a great deal.
Even getting 50 coins is easy.. One day of dailies on the Isle and killing rares, gets you close.
Since raiding on my main is my primary focus -- I've enjoyed MOP a great deal.
There's all sorts of room for improvement in this particular aspect of the game. Imagine if there were no guarantee that you'd make it to where you were going without death, or it maybe taking longer for a variety of reasons. Or if your flying mount was something you needed to level, and it could travel further as you progressed. Or if some of them had unique abilities (catching fish, gathering skins for you, etc) It would make flight points an interesting option in some areas (and flight costs could go up considerably, based on your level as an offset) if you wanted the luxury of it.
How hunter pets are handled now is another fine example of something that used to be at least on the right path game-play wise, and is now a complete and utter joke of a game mechanic. So much potential, thrown away under the guise of 'quality of life'.
"Look around you. We're all liars here, and every one of us is better than you" - PB
Flying is a good example of the above. If tmmrw they got rid of it entirely or nerfed it as you suggest you think people would stick around and put up with that? Not only can you not unwind that clock (although I hope they try) theirs no reason you should. Travelling in general is brain dead, even on ground mounts I alt tab and run through most crap and OCCASIONALLY have to alt tab back in because I dismount. It's TRAVEL, it should be brain dead because it's not your goal. Your goal is to finish whatever task, not get on the way to finish whatever task. Being waylaid by mobs to get what you need to get done is BORING. It gets tired REAL fast and it got tired on IOT exceptionally fast. IOT was a little better for this because of how it was designed, everything was fairly compact so getting from A to B didn't really leave you to get waylaid that often. IN the rest of the world forget about it. It would be a massive pain in the ass and it was lvling in mists.
Their seems to be this ridiculous notion that inconvenience makes the game fun and that conversely convenience makes for boredom. Well I can tell you that inconvenience does not make for fun, what it does is make for frustration and not enjoyment or entertainment. If inconvenience made for fun you and I would still be typing in codes for levels instead of saved games. They embraced so many painfully stupid and regressive notions this expansion and instead of ameliorating the sub loss it exacerbated it. The time to embrace outdated and outmoded notions has come to an end. We need more flying not less.
As for hunter pets they can go DIAF. If they had a hunter spec that let me sacrifice my pet I'd take it and never look back.
To me, IoT (if you were undergeared) was pretty close to spot in terms of player engagement, though mob density could have been increased. The one klaxxi island was also good if you weren't overgeared as well (the one where they'd send you to kill various packs), as is dino isle.
Different strokes and all that.
"Look around you. We're all liars here, and every one of us is better than you" - PB
IoT is a pretty good example of getting players to go out of their way pointlessly to keep them engaged. It clearly didn't retain subscribers. If anything mob density should be lowered, especially along the roads. When I go the island I'm not stopping their to site see or screw around with mobs on the way, I'm going to complete my quests and hopefully get a little bit further along the progression road. The more obstacles you put in the way of that the more unattached I get from that goal the more likely I am to move on to other games. If the developers learned one thing this expansion I hope they learned that people have VERY limited stomachs for "the stick" and can and will walk away from the game if you beat them up to much.
I mean your absolutely welcome to like that but to expect that theirs a sadomasochistic desire on the part of a large majority of the player base to be subject to such ridiculous obstacles in the name of regressive ideas and genre conventions is pretty silly I think. Especially when it garnered all the success that it did by abandoning and moving away from those same conventions for years.
Another thing for me that didn't work, armor set designs, I think aside from vanilla this expac has been the worst for armor designs. Nt a single one I have liked so far, thank god for transmogrify!
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The other major problem this expansion is Blizzard's total failure to respond to the population issues of servers. They messed it up in every way possible. Low population servers became worse, the raise of mega servers with ques and the end of faction balance on nearly every server.
Flying mounts disconnected you from the "world" more than ground mounts.
Individual group buffing, for example, wasn't a very good element to keep at the expense of convenience.
And I'm sorry to hear that IoT was too harsh for you, that enemies are keeping you from comleting your quests. How dare they. What are they doing on the silly Island anyways! They're just an obstacle between you and your objectives!
It wasn't to harsh for me but I can understand why people leave when the game developers decide to throw obstacles in front of them and mask incovenience as immersion or as gameplay. It's not. Flying mounts disconnecting you from the world is fine because the world itself is a massive disconnect. Simple removing flying mounts will not reconnect you to do it, all it will do is make you feel slightly annoyed and inconvenienced. Their is no connection, no immersion back down that path. Their is only continued subscriber loss.
Look in mists they tried to embrace so many painfully stupid and regressive ideas and not only did it NOT stem the tide of sub loss it only served to exarcebate it. Why do you think continuing to rob players of convenience is a good thing? Why do you think masking inconvenience as immersion works? Do you not use the save game feature on your games anymore? I hope they do get rid of all of it. The only way this argument will ever be finished is if the developers embrace every idea they can and just tank the game. Then we can finally put the debate to rest.
Pet battles: MASSIVE amounts of time and effort put into that with no big response or want for it in any way. Sure maybe 10% of whats left of the population likes it, but the time spent on that could have gone into something 90% would of liked. Transmog needs to be taken out of this game, it has led to a lack of care for gear design on blizzards end since if people dont like it they just change it to w/e tier the go and farm out of MC. If you think that's wrong just poll the first group of people you see in a raid group, are they all in the new dull stuff or the old shiny stuff?
The change in lore, the continuation of the LFR model, the new joke of a race, the new class, ability bloat, very poor balancing decisions, very poor item decisions, and a general lack of innovation.
When you see someone in a thread making the same canned responses over and over, click their name, click view forum posts, and see if they are a troll. Then don't feed them."Gamer" is not a bad word. I identify as a gamer. When calling out those who persecute and harass, the word you're looking for is "asshole." @_DonAdams
Pet battles has been a huge success this expansion. It maybe the single most popular thing this expansion has added.
No flying in Pandaria until 90 was terrible.
Well, these were the things that didn't work for me:
1) Lack of compelling story. This might be more my fault than Blizzard's, though. I haven't really been compelled since we killed the Lich King. Every ounce of my toon felt consumed by the need to save the world from the Scourge in WoTLK. It fueled questing, made sense of instances, and motivated my doing dailies. I was far less compelled by the threat of Deatwing in Cata, but the revamp to Azeroth was enough to keep my interest pretty piqued. I haven't been engaged by MoP's story whatsoever, though.
2) Double gating (rep + valor) gear. Lame. So lame. Throw in the ability to champion factions via tabards while running dungeons and it would've only been 1/10th as lame, but forcing dailies upon us in this fashion really irked me.
3) Speaking of dungeons. The relative lack of dungeons, and the lack of quality in the ones given us, was really a turnoff for me. Might sound weird, but grinding 5-mans is how I spent the vast, vast majority of my time in WoTLK and Cata, with the occasional PuG raid thrown in. The dungeons in MoP have just been... belch. I assume this is due to the greater push to get people into raids instead via LFR, but whatevs. Still lame.
their original intent as queue based group (or solo) quests, and add another avenue for leveling experience/rewards in addition to questing and dungeons. I really don't see their purpose beyond that, especially at max levels. (Perfect example would be if Battle For Undercity, one of the best quests of all time, was brought back as a scenario.)
There is no content for alters, at least for me. Let see:
Dungeons/scenarios: They are a rush even with green gear, no mechanics, just loot piñata. At least at cata I could run dungeons with alters and have fun. I could say that I leveled alters on cata for the dungeons.
BG: So if I farm honor gear, it is still crap gear for bgs, so no way
World PvP: Random PvE guy appears and oneshots the alter, gg. But I use my mage to pull oondasta/Nalak to the horde which is a lot of fun.
LFR: afk, zzzzz....
Dailies: Again? Hell NO
Challenge dungeons: I don't even care about doing them with my main, so...
HC Scenario: That is the only feature I like to do with alters, but the bag drops once a day and I got tired of logging on alters every day.
Achiv/mounts/pets: Nope
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IMO Yes.
Didn't want to clog up Male Frag Discussion with this post, but after reading the 'Grandfatherly Fragrances' thread, I see that YSL Rive Gauche PH has had a fair few mentions as a fragrance that's suitable for an older gent. Question is, would it be suitable for a young adult (I'm 21, by the way), or is strictly for gentlemen?
IMO Yes.
I would never classify Rive Gauche as an "old man" scent. I think it would be fine for anyone, at any age.
Why can't a Young Adult also be a Gentleman? I love to wear RG at 33, and wish I'd worn it when I was younger too. Fantastic scent.
Rive Gauche isn't an old man scent. It's a fresh-man. And a clean-man. At the very least, a sharp-man!
I'm 23 and I wear it to the hospital (doctor) on conference days. Clean shaven, crisp labcoat or blazer. Although it works quite well with a sharply-trimmed beard. And amazing in cool weather. Rive Gauche leans on the smarter, dressier, conservative side of fragrance, in my opinion. And it won't break the bank (~$35/125ml on amazon)
Go for it.
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yes of course they can
It is perhaps a little dated. Just my opinion. It has that classic barbershop scent which is associated with fragrances of 'yester years.' However, it is a very clean, safe scent that can be worn to work, after work, just about whenever you would like to. Any young guy can pull this one off.
As long as your old enough to shave then Rive Gauche can be worn.
You can wear it. It's a clean masculine elegant scent that can be worn by young and old adults imo.
I'll go against the grain, but I would not recommend it for a younger person. Not meaning to offend anyone, but when I first ordered a sample a couple of years ago based on hype, my immediate impression was "old man". To me, it reminds me of something my grandfather would've worn and I just don't care for it. (and I'm no spring chicken, I'm 42 and won't touch it). But then again, I hated fragrances when I was a teenager in the 80s because of that "powerhouse" type smell of that era, and I still can't stand those types of scents today. I know my tastes tend to be more like a 20 year old than a 40 year old, but that's ok with me. Anyway, at least be wary of all the hype and sample first with Rive Gauche. It does smell dated, and if you don't like older 70s/80s type scents, you may not like it. Also, as far as compliments, I just can't imagine younger women (teens/20s/even 30s), liking it.
As I say, I'm not knocking anyone who loves it. That's awesome, but there's just no way I would wear it.
I really think it all depends on how it works on your skin & with your personality. I think any frag can "work" for anyone...it just all depends on if it "fits" for them. Heck, I wore frags like Drakkar Noir, Obsession & Eternity as a young teen & didn't think anything of it. Personally, I love Rive Gauche. That being said, I'm 35 & my wife is 33. I accidentally sprayed too much (4 sprays I think) Rive Gauche on the other day shortly before she came home. When she came in, she said the house reeked of strong, old man cologne smell & she didn't like it at all. She said I would be "that cologne guy" if I went anywhere smelling like that.
So, yes, I do think that it has the potential to come off as a more mature smell, especially if applied a little too heavily & realistically, I'm not sure how many 20 something year old women would find it appealing on a 20 something man. Then again, I'm neither....
One caveat, however, is that the top & mid notes too me are the ones that smell the strongest of this. By an hour in, Rive Gauche has an absolutely wonderful, masculine, creamy, light, almost somewhat musky barber-shop soap drydown that lasts and lasts. You just feel manly, fresh & clean with it for hours. My advice would be to test it on your skin. Go a little lighter on the trigger than you may be used to with some other frags. If the opening is a bit strong for you, give it 30-60 minutes to develop & drydown. I happen to enjoy it from start to finish, but for my wife & others, I go light & spray a little sooner before leaving the house with it on.
When I lived in the city there was a girl in my neighbourhood who wore a boller hat. She probably wasn't more than 20 years old. I'm an old guy and I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that thing, but she not only pulled it off, she made me wish I was 20 years old too! Probably a good thing it never occurred to her that some people think boller hats are for old folks.
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I understand that you don't like it, and of course you're entitled to like whatever you want. I just question your description of it, and think others may be misled.
Of course, as you said, sampling is the best way to go, at least until we get computers with smell-o-vision.
By the way - yes, I think a young man can easily wear this. I know a teenager that wears Eau Sauvage, a scent that was released 30 years before he was born. As in fashion, perfume fads come and go, but the classics remain.
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I have worn it for years (I've just turned 23) with no problems in fact compliments from friends and strangers alike. If a scent works with your chemistry and you like it there is no reason not to wear it.
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Actually, yes. I was about 26-27 when I started wearing Rive Gauche and I still enjoy wearing it as of today.
Absolutely yes. If you like the scent, go for it.
I would say yes, unless you look very baby-faced.
I'm 18 and i wear it. RG is my favourite scent tbh. Doesn't smell dated or old at all.
This is not one of the "old man" scents that typically have strong soap or powder accords.
It is much more "fresh" and green.
A young man COULD wear it, as long as he doesn't spray too much of it.
Some people will think it's an old man cologne, there's no avoiding that.
It's a great formal/work fragrance, but I think it's a bit out of place with a T-shirt and jeans/shorts. It smells a lot like the Barbasol in a barber shop. I wouldn't consider it an older man's fragrance, but it is sort of a throwback.
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It's a great formal/work fragrance, but I think it's a bit out of place with a T-shirt and jeans/shorts. It smells a lot like the Barbasol in a barber shop. I wouldn't consider it an older man's fragrance, but it is sort of a throwback.
Any age can wear anything, I truly believe that....for people who dont like that concept, I do think Rive Gauche projects an older 40+ vibe.
Yes. It's great.
Do you want to smell good, interesting, and different from the pack? Or would you rather smell like everyone else your age? Test the stuff out. Do YOU like how it smells on you? If yes, wear it. If there's something about it you don't like, then wear something else. Every fragrance, if it is original at all, is going to smell a bit different in some way. "Too old" "too weird" "too feminine" "too fill-in-the-blank". There is no fragrance that everyone is going to completely love. The only way to avoid someone not liking your fragrance is to wear none. Of course, there may then be something else about you for someone to pick at. There are young men who will smell great and age-appropriate wearing RGpH, but only you can decide if it smells great ON YOU.
No, it smells oldish. Stick to more hip scents imo.
I suspect this smells old man and have been reluctant to try it. It's hard to tell on BN which fragrances suit the normal/less enthusiast and younger crowd. Many recommendations suit older folks and those with complex and niche tastes that just don't work for many.
Eau Sauvage is another one that gets lots of recommendations. I tried it and it's horrid.definitely a strong old man and dated feel to it. If you're under 45 steer clear. I will try Rive Gauche but the barber shop smell doesn't fill me with confidence. A modern recommendation for clean and fresh would be Prada Amber pour Homme. It's excellent, inoffensive, clean and sophisticated.
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OP, I personally like Rive Gauche just fine and comfortably wear it to work or casually. Having said that, both of my children are actually older than you So, if generational references mean anything to you, take that for what you will.
Slightly more seriously, if you want to project a clean, classical scent image and this works with the rest of your style and personality it'll be nice. If you're more of a shorts & sandals kind of guy when you go out casually, it may be contrary to your style and I'd consider some of the other very good options instead of Rive Gauche.
It goes without saying that sampling would be a plus if you can locate it. Oh, and I'd definitely recommend the older black & silver tin can juice, as opposed to the new one. I believe it's still commonly available online (e.g. FragranceNet), but getting more rare by the day as its been discontinued.
It's still around 40 bucks for 4.2 oz,,
I don't believe it's discontinued


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Scouting Report-Pouncey is a physical specimen, with a long lean frame, long arms, and great structure. He looks like a big athletic oversized tight end and it shows in his athleticism. He's been locked down as the starting center for the Florida Gators since he was a true freshman, so even as a junior coming out early, he's got loads of quality experience against tough SEC competition. Also, even though he was plugged in at center, many think he could easily switch to either left or right guard and some even think he's athletic enough to play right tackle. No doubt he's got the build for it, and watching him play center, you do get the impression with his footwork and agility he could make the switch. He does a great job with the line calls and is a leader along the offensive front. He does a nice job stepping out and sliding, able to pick up blitzers off either edge, pulls, and works well getting to the second level. He's stronger than he looks, and uses his power and long arms to extend and keep defenders off of him, and re-direct them really well. There's not a lot Pouncey does wrong in his game, and I think it's more a fact that he has no single feature that stands out, he's being undervalued.
Draft Status-It's rare to see a center taken in the first round, but I can definitely see it happening this year. Not so much beccause I think Pouncey is an elite center. In fact in terms of a pure center prospect, he may not even be the best in the draft. But when you figure his the upside this young man has, especially in terms of moving to right tackle, and you understand why a team in the bottom third of the first round could certainly take a shot on him. His potential is that great.
Final Analysis-There is lots to like about Pouncey's game. I always felt like his upside was much higher than his brother's so I'll be curious to track him this season without his twin brother to compare him to. Pouncey is super athletic and that is what teams want in their offensive linemen. One thing that I really like about Pouncey is how well he keeps himself low, and even though he's 6'5" you rarely see him give up leverage and lose ground. I think his biggest shortcoming is probably the unknown. He may not be able to work on the outside, where he's going to get the fastest players on the defense. How will he do without a body next to him? But if he never plays a snap at tackle, and only plays center and guard, he's still a top prospect in this draft. I think the offensive line for Florida get forgotten because of Tebow-mania, but as you go back and watch what he did, his ability to run block and pass protect stood out. He's a very sound player technically and as I said, even though he may not have any elite skills, there's really nothing he doesn't do well.
Reminds me of: Jason Brown, C St. Louis Rams-Both are long athletic players who work more off finesse than brute force and have shown they can play at a high level at multiple positions. Brown is floundering in St. Louis right now, but there's not doubt he's a great player, and Pouncey can have that same kind of impact.
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Scouting Report written by Curt Popejoy
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