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For some the inspiration to serve was passed down from their fathers.
"My dad was a great man," said Ernest Hoopii, the sergeant major of Marine Corps Installations East. "Honest, hard-working and disciplined. That inspired me to be like him. That inspired me to join the Corps."
The Hoopii family's military service dates back to World War I and tallies nearly 44 years of combined service across four generations. Each living generation credits its fathers for the desire to wear a military uniform.
"Not only are we fathers and sons — we are friends," Hoopii said. "But we also share the brotherhood of being Marines."
His father, who served in the Korean War, not only kept his military uniforms inspection-ready after his service, he also conducted himself as a Marine after his actual service was over, said the sergeant major.
"My dad instilled core values in me long before I knew they were core values," Hoopii said. "...And now my sons are serving. It's like watching your kid ride a bike for the first time. There's a sense of accomplishment you feel."
The sergeant major recently watched his son Andrew graduate from recruit training at
"It was baptism by fire," Hoopii said of the 2010 firefight. "At that moment he was 21 years of age and he told me he was good. That was the turning point for me as a father."
Now as Sean continues life as a civilian, Andrew begins his Marine Corps career with words of wisdom from his father.
"Go as far as you can as fast as you can," Hoopii said. "Love what you do. This job isn't easy and there will be bad days but if you love what you do it will never feel like work."
Andrew Hoopii looks forward to the good days and the bad, he said.
"Knowing I'm carrying on the family legacy feels amazing," Andrew Hoopii said. "I feel like I was always meant to do. It's all I knew growing up. I needed to do this for myself."
His father initially wanted him to go to college and earn a commission, he said.
"Everything I saw growing up I tried to accomplish in boot camp" Andrew Hoopii said. "I tried to be just like my dad and doing just that got me through hard times.
"I know that following in his footsteps is also going to help me propel my military career and my life."
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Nice to see that you're putting some thought into this fragrance! Thanks for your comments!
I've been on this board for more than 8 months. When I first joined, Green Irish Tweed was the favorite horse. But soon after, people started shifting to Creed's Aventus. It soon became, easily, the most acclaimed fragrance on Basenotes. For the past few months, it has been in a lot of top 10 lists, the center of a lot of topics, and in nearly every topic asking for suggestions, someone is going to mention Aventus. I've never seen this much hype in a fragrance before, ever. Aventus has the reputation on Basenotes as the #1 fragrance.
The question: Does Aventus live up to the high standards set for it?
I caved into all of the hype and bought a decant of Aventus (c42b11z01). I tried it on for a few days and for those who haven't tried it, I will explain the best I can what it is like to help you decide whether this is worth trying or buying. For those who tried it and own it, this can be a very lively discussion.
Creed's most popular scents Millesime Imperial, Silver Mountain Water and Green Irish Tweed are known to be fresh and more subtle scents. For that reason, I was expecting this to be a light scent as well. However, Aventus is far from it. It is the polar opposite. This is not unisex. This is masculine, to the fullest extent of the word. Aventus is a powerhouse, projecting much much stronger. If it were sold in a generic bottle, I would not have guessed it was a Creed.
At the beginning, it starts out with a mix of fruits. There is bergamot and apples, which are excellent. Mainly, the most noted part about this fragrance is the pineapple. It stands out because not many fragrances use pineapple, especially as one of the main notes. Not only that, but Creed does it exceptionally well. The opening starts a little synthetic and at the literal first second it is really hard to tell what exactly is going on. However, after the first minute, the scent develops into something wonderful. It is a great fruity scent with a lot of darker undercurrents.
However, quickly, within the first hour, that fruity paradise vanishes, replaced with a billowing cloud of smoke. The apple-pineapple opening starts to take a back-seat while the smoky woody incense dominates the fragrance. By the 2nd hour, the scent is mostly just smoke. That wonderful opening is hardly detectable. While fragrances are often criticized for being linear, I think the greater flaw is being inconsistent. I do not see the purpose of having such a remarkable opening for it only to vanish into thin air.
This scent is smoky, like Kouros. While this scent is remarkably different from Kouros, it still has the same idea in mind: a strong powerhouse smoky fragrance, distinct in its uniqueness.
My nose is very insensitive and incapable of picking up subtleties, so I'm probably not the best person to judge a scent even on my own skin. It's really hard on whether I really like it or don't care a lot about it. It is such a complex fragrance with so many subtlties. Each part of my body I spray it on, it smells completely different, but in the end, it all leads to the same path: the smoky birch basenotes.
When it comes to compliments, I hear a lot of people have gotten a ton of compliments. I haven't worn it in public much so I can't judge that.
Two things you should keep in mind:
1. There are variations from batch to batch. There are some batches with more pineapple and some batches with more smoke - and I may have the latter. For that reason, make sure you check the batch you are getting before you buy it.
2. We all have different skin chemistry. My skin diffuses a lot of heat, so many fragrances end up heavily distorted
I still have my decant. I'll give it a lot more usage to see if my mind changes. Once the decant is done, I'll decide whether I want a full bottle or not. I'm not sure if I want to buy this (and I'm thankful that I didn't, though I may change my mind). For those wanting to blind buy this, I assume you do the same. Don't sample it on a card and walk away if you don't like it. Don't buy it blindly. Rather, try a decant or split sample of 5-10ml. If you end up liking it, go for the real thing.
This has been strongly hyped. But now as I smell Aventus and think of why, I know the reason. Because it is bold daring and controversial - not because most people love it! Creed's willingness to take a risk and release a scent so different has resulted in people having extreme opinions of it. I'm sure many people on here will say that they didn't like Aventus or it wasn't for them. Safer more versatile scents like Millesime Imperial will have overall MORE PEOPLE approving, but Aventus will have more people who EXTREMELY APPROVE of it.
I'm unsure how I am going to rate this. This could, in time, get a 10. But for now, I'll let it rest at an 8.
This may be all a bit premature. My opinion of this may change (or it could stay the same) in months to come.
Thanks. What are your thoughts on it?
It's going to be subjective depending on peoples take on it. For me I like it though not enough to buy and I do think its over hyped but some fragrances are worthy of the hype.
If you're into more traditional, mainstream, safe fragrances you'll probably like Aventus, or at least find its framework to be very familiar, but the hype surrounding it seems a little exaggerated and I suspect it's due to people who are so familiar with a very specific genre of fragrance ("office elevator masculine") that the slightest nuance (pineapple/ash) seems hugely profound, but to me it all smells relatively of the same ilk. I'm sure people will think I just don't have enough experience with these kinds of fragrances to appreciate, but I think this comic does a good job at summing up the Aventus connoisseurship:
This equally applies to the throne GIT sits on while Cool Water is a bargain bin throwaway. I guess, for some, the subtlest of nuances differentiates a bargain bin scent from a masterpiece but to me there's a line where connoisseurship crosses into placebo and imagination (I'm slightly holding back from saying 'delusions of grandeur' here). Just my opinion, I know most will fully disagree with me.
Loved the pineapple opening and disliked the smoky heart and synthetic nature of the scent immensely. I found overall it was very average and would rate it about a 5 or 6 out of 10. Nothing too unconventional or risk-taking here to my nose, at least... Good review though; thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Current Top Favorites:
1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
3) Dia Man vintage edt (Amouage)
4) Anat Fritz Original Formula and Classical (Anat Fritz) - tie
4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie
6) Les Nombres d'Or Vetyver (Mona di Orio)
7) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
8) Tzora (Anat Fritz)
9) Javanese Patchouli (Zegna) - tie
9) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
9) Coeur de Vetiver Sacré (L'Artisan) - tie
9) X for Men (Clive Christian) - tie
9) Patou pour Homme Privé (Jean Patou) - tie
9) Oud Shamash (The Different Company) - tie
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On my skin, it's not masculine at all. In fact, almost all compliments I get from this fragrance, which is plenty, is about how this smells slightly feminine most likely due to the fruity note which last forever on my skin. I actually prefer it because I'm not into smoky overly masculine scents. Might just be the batch though
Good review. Don't take this the wrong way (it is meant as a compliment) but it's nice to see you having an opinion about a fragrance and expressing your views
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The most hyped fragrance EVER. IMO
I think it's funny how people complain about hype while adding to it. The title to this thread *IS* hype: Noirdrakkar Tries Aventus: Is Aventus Worth The Hype?
Hype on message boards and youtube is nothing more than other people's opinions. Noirdrakkar can't tell us if Aventus lives up to the hype. He can only say if it lives up to the hype for him. I can only say if it lives up to the hype for me, but that's not how I judge a scent. I mean, hey, hype makes it easy to find out about something, so it's fair to say hype can be helpful as well as annoying. But the thing is, I can't wear hype. I can't smell hype and hype isn't going to bring my compliments. Hype is just other people's enthusiasm.
For me, Aventus was worth buying. I enjoy it and I've been complimented while wearing it. Win, win. As for the hype... really, who cares?
If you sniff a scent and base your opinion on other people's enthusiasm, you're setting yourself up for a letdown. Instead, it makes a million times more sense to focus on whether the scent brings you pleasure and how much it costs to own it.
I think Aventus is definitely worth a sniff (there's always tons of splits or decants available for this one), and while it's certainly nowhere near my favorite, I think it's both bold enough and polarizing enough to evoke a response. It may get you sent home from work (happened to at least two BNers that I'm aware of), or it may solicit a compliment hours after you sprayed it (check the 'female compliments' thread), but it's hard to ignore. As always, it's up to the individual to determine if a particular scent is bottle-worthy to stand side-by-side with your revered mainstays, but it's hard to deny that Aventus makes an impression.
The first time I wore it, I liked it. The second time, I liked it a lot. After that it has been pure love. Formal, casual, summer, winter, etc. - this fits any situation, any mood.
It is unlike anything else. Does it live up to the hype? That is a personal choice. I love several Creed fragrances (and can't stand Imperial Millesime), and put this one on the top of the heap. The top of any heap in fact.
I guess you should just give it a few more wearings, and decide for yourself. But it is my favorite, and by far, the biggest compliment getter from females (I was a little suprised by that).
Seasonal favorites:
1. Xerjoff - Nio
2. Creed - Aventus
3. Tom Ford - Grey Vetiver
4. The Different Company - De Bachmakov
5. Dior - Homme Sport 2008
6. Montale - Aoud Legacy
7. Creed - Virgin Island Water
8. by Kilian - Straight to Heaven
9. Creed - Original Cologne
10. Clive Christian - 1872 for Men
I don't find Aventus to resemble any other scent I've yet worn or tested, and I give Creed credit for coming up with something unique. I wear it occasionally and enjoy it as a nice change of pace; as noted in prior threads, I get compliments in the office. It seems to project a lot. I can pick up the pineapple in it even 24 hours after application, and that's the note I like best about it.
Thanks for the support.
As expressed, these are MY opinions. You may think Aventus is the greatest invention since the wheel or you may hate it. But all I am saying is that our noses are all different, our skins are all different and the batches are different. Also, it is pricey, so if you are going to drop that kind of money, definitely examine it carefully.
This is not a bad fragrance at all. I actually think this is a brilliant work of art. However, any fragrance with the amount of acclaim that Aventus had would break under pressure. People become adverse to the idea that there is ONE fragrance that tops them all.
This is what think of this fragrance. Thanks to l'homme bi I got a 5ml decant from the fragrancebros. Does it live to its hype? Well from what I can tell the hype around it isn't because it smell good its because it get you compliments. I haven't tried it out in public but someone told me that they like liked it when I tested at home . About the smell of aventus well its hard to say its not really a typical frag its unique in a way I got all those fruit juces in the opening apple and pine apple but then that smokey smell creeps in which makes it interesting. All along there is a swet note which gives it a sweet smell but that jasmine is what gives this perfume its character to me other than that the base is almost non existent. Its not for every one that's for sure but I am also sur this will get me compliments when I decide to wear it. So its ayes for me.
Last edited by Stayclose; 7th August 2012 at 12:17 AM.
Stayclose: great point. Aventus is an aroma scent. It's one of the many fragrances that don't smell great on your wrist, but as it passes through the air, and taken in as a whole, it better. When I sat outside on the deck with the winds blowing on me, Aventus got better.
I heard Aventus was a total chick magnet, especially in the compliments thread. I appreciate fragrances as art and everything, but honestly I'm vain and narcissitic enough to care about compliments.
Anyone got anything to say about the compliments they got from Aventus
Really, it's this simple:
"Do I like this?" Yay/nay.
"Would I buy this?" Yay/nay.
Aventus really isn't too pricey if you get in on a split. But, yeah, if you want a bottle, it's expensive. I bought a bottle, but I probably should have just gone in on a split. I'm not a fan of Creed super-soaker-sprayers!
LBI, is this not a thread about trying-to-smell?
Noir: I get excellent compliments while wearing Aventus, but if it's compliments you want (and who doesn't?!?) Curve is the way to go. Curve isn't going to get respect on basenotes, but who cares? It gets compliments like crazy in the real world.
For the record: the idea that people only wear Aventus for compliments is incorrect. Maybe some do, but speaking for myself, I absolutely love the smell. The rich pineapple smells cheerful and the drydown is oddly soothing (I say "oddly" because I can't quite explain why I feel that way). Aventus manages to be both fruity yet manly. I think it smells fantastic.
Really though, you have to let go of the hype and other people's enthusiasm. Just wear it and let your nose decide. If your nose says no, that's A-OK. There are a ton of other amazing scents out there.
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I think it is an unbelievable fragrance. If you get a good batch, you will be blown away...as is the case with any other Creed.
Probably my all time favorite.
Yep if you like it spray if not delay it.
The pineapple opening is a ten. It's worth buying just for that. The rest of it is a solid 8.5. That being said I would never wear this every day. I love it once a week and it always smells like the first time. From what I've read here and seen on Youtube wearing this to often causes nose fatigue and I think that's why some may have oversprayed it.
In my experience it's real calm and wonderful until your body heat goes up and you sweat a little. That's when it starts to project like a beast. Suddenly you understand why some people were sent home.
OK. At the risk of adding to the hype, let me just say that this is how I - personally - feel about it. But this is much more from a business perspective, and a personal perspective, than from any "artistic" perspective.
I think it's an excellent fragrance - but more than that, it was one of Creed's re-defining moments. Though I also agree with those who say it's mainstream. Because it is. I think it was a very smart fragrance for Creed to release.
I agree with lm6 that Aventus is *not* an out-of-the-box fragrance. I've sniffed (and own) plenty of those. Tauer, Mugler, Neil Morris and CdG provide edginess and wide-angle novelty when I need it.
Aventus is one where the effort was all done "in-the-box". Creed did what it does best - find something people like and polish it to a shine that sells. They don't polish things nearly as much as JAR, nor do they try to find a unique and terribly interesting starting point in the way that JAR does. But they find something popular and recognizable and work it - so that people who love traditional or mainstream, and want the same thing, only a bit more thought-out and smoothed over, and maybe even a tad unique, will be pleased.
But there is a sense in which Aventus *was* somewhat bold and controversial - and that was in taking a risk of alienating the traditionalist part of Creed's fanbase. People who preferred Creed's old-school stuff were *not* generally pleased with Aventus.
I was somewhere in between.
When I first smelled Aventus, I recall thinking that Creed had managed to integrate a sorely needed modernity with a requisite old-school sophistication. I thought it was brilliant, and would basically save Creed from becoming irrelevant. It was a turning point for the company. It's their big seller now, and they needed it. Creeds have more often fallen to one side or the other, pleasing either their modernist followers or their traditionalists. That simply couldn't go on. Creed needed to get back in the groove of what I might call the high road of the current stream of fragrance thought. You can't create a contender for a true classic otherwise, and Creed needed a new contender. I felt that Aventus had enough old-school vibe to feel almost poignant, but in a subtle way that would damn near fly under the radar of those highly desirable, younger lovers of modern stuff. It had the fresh feel of a recent designer release, but with an almost subconscious old-school sophistication, which is really needed to get people to make the price jump. It was the perfect combination - exactly what Creed needed.
More personally, it was a fragrance that I knew I would love, but in a way that I really couldn't. I don't know if that makes sense. The way I felt then, is still the way I feel now. I guess you could say that I love it, but it's not *me*. It's a bit too young for me. It smells great, and great on me, but I knew it could never be my signature scent. When I smell it, it reminds me of young men now - something I can never be. It reminds me of an age when I would never have worn Aventus. At that age, I was wearing Pendleton shirts, and blue jeans, and Givenchy Gentleman. But the fragrance makes me imagine a world where I'm wearing completely different clothes, and living a completely different life, at that younger age. I'm wearing a suit and a vest, and I have gold wire-rimmed glasses. I even imagine I'm walking my dog, just like the first time I wore Aventus, though it's a different breed. It does that every time I smell it.
I guess that's why I like fragrance. It takes me somewhere else - another place - another time.
Yeah, I like it. In my own weird way.
Want to trade - Chanel Platinum Egoiste for Dior Eau Sauvage...
To me it is a good and interesting fragrance objectively but personally I do not like it very much. Definitely one that needs trying before buying IMHO - that's what decants are for, hype or no hype.
...oh, but the rest of your post? Superb.
P.S. Red: what age does Aventus smell like to you?
If it lasted more than 30 minutes it would be worth it. I'm anosmic to whatever's in it during the dry down. That said, it's my daughter's absolute favorite of all time on me, so I caved and bought a bottle.
The sample I had smelled like pure smoke. Not tobacco smoke, but camp fire smoke. PURE campfire smoke.
I love it! From the pineapple beginning down to a leather like accord that is so smooth and classy.
Is the juice worth the squeeze?
Yeah. I can imagine the look on the cop's face when Aventus blew into the breathalyzer!
Only some of my fragrances do that sort of thing. Kinda neat when it happens.
Creed's Aventus, is one of the few fragrances that indeed deserves the hype. I am not a big fan of creed, nor of niche, if truth be told. But Aventus, man this is good juice. And the compliments. I would even go so far as to recommend aventus as a blind buy to my friends. It is that good.
I was underwhelmed with my first experience with Aventus as well. I liked the fruity, smokey vibe but didn't find it that impressive. About the 4th time wearing it is when I really started to appreciate and enjoy the mix of the fruit (pineapple and apple), the leather accord, and the touch of patchouli. What won me over was the projection and longevity. It just keeps on giving.
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Personally love it and very glad I have a bottle of this in my collection
It actually took a bunch of wearings for me to finally fall in love with this scent. Besides the fact that it has received multiple compliments from rather attractive women I actually enjoy the pineapple smokiness that I get on my skin every time I spray it on.
My current top ten:
1. Spice and Wood
2. Tonka Imperiale
3. Dior Homme
4. Pure Malt
5. Oud Wood
6. Ambre Nuit
7. L'air Du Desert Marocain
8. Noir de Noir
9. Apple Brandy
10.Straight to Heaven
Kinda not surprising how we ended up married to different people!
Redneck: I couldn't agree more. The placebo with fragrance is strong.. if you pay a lot for perfume or sample something that's 400-500 a bottle, it's natural to instantly assume it's high quality. I see lots of reviews for various brands, Kilian for example, where people say "I don't really care for it but I can tell it's very high quality stuff" .. really? It smells like aromachemicals to my nose. That's why I mentioned the Cool Water/GIT thing.. I wonder if the juices were swapped if people would decide Cool Water was the high quality one because the price indicated as much. One simply needs to look into the backgrounds of many of these noses to recognize their signature, from Sheldrake to Duchaufour to Giacobetti to you name it, these are very skilled noses and they can do magic with synthetics. To assume quality ingredients are used just because it's expensive seems naive, but it's clear that niche perfumes will soon be commonly sold around the $300-350 price point, and if current trends are any indication, $350 will still see bottles flying off the shelf. Dior, Tom Ford and many others are going full steam ahead with faux niche lines to get a piece of the pie. It's understandable, too. Everyone wants to make money.
And I also agree about the thrill of enjoying cheap stuff (especially when you're broke). I read an interview with Franz Ferdinand in Rolling Stone many many years ago and their singer said that the most decadent memories he has are of when he was dirt poor and would save up enough for a bottle of rum or small pleasures like that.. I relate. Bulgari Black is one of the cheapest fragrances to buy and imo it's one of the best. I don't care if you can walk into a Ross and buy it for 10 bucks, it's damn good quality juice and I'd take it over most the Kilians, Nasomattos and Clive Christians out there. Yes, most people are going to say Dzing is better because it costs more and is more exclusive, but all this does is re-enforce my point. I've done many side by sides with those 2, Black smells better (opinion) and longevity/projection is far better (fact), and it's drastically cheaper. I'm just waiting for a niche company to make a Back to Black or Tobacco Vanille knockoff, charge $600 for 30ml, and watch everyone fall head over heels for it, and even if people hate it they'll still wax poetic about how high quality the ingredients smell.
They occasionally do blind taste tests with wine experts and sometimes the results are embarrassing (like the time 2 Buck Chuck (Trader Joes/Charles Shaw) beat out multiple hundred dollar French wines) and I'm certain many perfume fanatics would also end up red faced if put in a similar blind-smelling situation without high price points and fancy ad copy to guide their opinions/placebo.
To me, Amouage is the one house that is worth the premium. There is such a regal and classy feel to them, the bottles are works of art and they make me feel very content when I wear them. It's the one brand in which the visual representation is mirrored perfectly with the fragrances themselves. Whoops, I just realized I'm mashing all these paragraphs out in an Aventus thread! I'll stop now
And while this may not add anything, perhaps it sums it up. It really pays to know your own nose.
OK - one more thing. Though I love Aventus, and it used to be very unique, there are, now, some very enjoyable designer fragrances that are plumbing the fruity/smoky/sweet thing for all they're worth, and they're all under $100. I've seen people react to them with the same OMG feeling as Aventus. I won't say they're a substitute - everybody needs to answer to their own nose on that one. But when you can love something cheaply, why not?
Bulgari Black is definitely one of the fragrances that I would rescue in the event of a fire. I smell that on other people, and I'm amazed at how great it is. I just hope they never think about discontinuing it - at least not in my lifetime.
I didn't buy the hype, I bought the sample. Then I bought the fragrance. And I'm glad I did.
Yeah. I have a 10ml sample. To me, Aventus is not an everyday scent. I might wear this once every few weeks, at least until I get a bottle.
I've loved Aventus from the first sniff. In fact, I'm naming my son after it.
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1. Axe Kilo
2. Lectric Shave
3. Vicks Vapor Rub
4. Febreze Pour Homme
5. Preferred Stock
I sampled Aventus for a week when it first started coming on here. First day I wore it a secretary in my firm said I smelled great. I enjoyed the hint of pineapple but was smitten with the drydown. It wasn't too smoky but nice and professional. However, in the same batch, the more I wore it, the more pineapple overwhelmed me and I just found it ok. I couldn't get the pineapple out of my nostrils. I purchased one Creed in 4 years of being here...legit GIT on ebay..and sold it right away. Maybe its because I realized that I love smelling good but that it isn't that important to me to spend alot on it...or maybe rather spend it on family...but I just can't see myself ever buying another Creed unless I have ALOT of cash to burn. Great hobby but I'm more of a searcher and tester than collector. I can stick with TdH or a lesser designer and move on.
Love this discussion though. Redneck and others hit on some great points!!Cheers
"As you walk down the fairway of life you must smell the roses, for you only get to play one round."
--Ben Hogan
Ok, I have to share this link
I really don't mean to offend anyone with this, I just feel like this is how dramatic some Aventus lovers are in their description of the power of Aventus. These are some funny reviews here. I just think that Aventus lovers and non-lovers alike can enjoy this. Just read a few reviews and if nothing else, just read the review headers.
im6: you make a lot of really good points. I am a big fan of Bvlgari Black. It's excellent. So is Fahrenheit. Curve is a huge compliment catcher and I enjoy it. Hanae Mori HM is excellent as well, and can be had for as little as $15.
I think many people trick themselves into believing if something costs more, it must be "better" (whatever THAT mans). But it doesn't necesarily work that way. Price is more often dictated by a sales strategy. It takes more purchases of a $70 frag to bring in the same profit that a $200 frag makes. On the other hand, the $70 frag is in more stores and more affordable, thus is WILL sell more... but on the other hand (a 3rd hand?! You mutant!), in order to sell more, a $70 scent has to appeal to more people. Designer houses often create fragrance-pop since it's easier to sell Pop than Art. Note that I said "often" not "always." There is fragrance art to be had for under $100 a bottle.
I also think that many people trick themselves into believing they have to like what other people like. They buy popular stuff because they're think they're supposed to, or because they want to be part of the in-crowd. Or they join the backlash against something popular because they want to be part of THAT crowd. It's silliness. And it brings me back to the silliness of judging scents based on anything other than the smell.
Noir says Aventus smells like just smoke on his skin by the 2nd hour. That's the only wise way to judge a scent when considering a purchase: judge it by how it smells on one's own skin. On my skin, Bleecker street turns into a mess in the drydown, mostly but not entirely disappearing at the 4 hour mark. It's a bummer since I adore Bleecker's opening. Ah well. Not all scents work on all people and it would be a shame to lay down big bucks for something that doesn't work on your own skin. And that's the beauty (and wisdom!) of sampling first.
The hypers rave about it.
The backlashers slam it.
But the only opinion that matters is the person whose nose is smelling it. Hype has no smell. Always trust your own nose. The nose knows
That being said i got a nice compliment this past weekend. I was at a store and one of the workers came up to me and said " you smell really good" she eventually asked one of her co workers to ask what i was wearing if she wasn't around when i was checking out and then subsequently came to me to ask again. It was about a couple of hrs after i sprayed and she said she could smell me around the store at the areas i was walking by and i didn't even smell it anymore at that point. I only had 2 sprays from a decant too.
on a side note, dogs love this smell on me, twice i have attracted serious attention from random dogs wearing aventus
Absolutely on the money. Sheep behaviour. I have no problem whatsoever in going against the crowd, if a frag is crap i say it's crap and couldn't care less what fanboys/shills think. I'd have no problem knocking seven shades of shit out of Aventus too if it wasn't any good.
Is Aventus worth the hype? In my opinion, yes, it's one of a very few that actually is.
I'm waiting for a "I just tried Acqua Di Gio. Is it any good?" thread. As we all know, people only buy that one to mock the snobs
"Niche lovers are the 1% in real life and the 99% on Basenotes." - This statement is so profound.
In doing some research on fragrances I recently ventured onto a female beauty blogsite. The post was about the author's favorite fragrances and those she finds sexy on her man. She raved about Aqua di Gio the exact same way basenoters rave about the powers of Aventus. I quote:
"This is another scent that I think would smell good on every male. Very clean, very sexy, very I-smell-hot-but-I-don't-try-too-hard. Hubby also has the deodorant of this and I swear to you, his t-shirt pits smell fantastic."
In the C-Section following the article out of about over 100 posts at least 80% of the raves were on Lacoste Essential, Aqua di Gio & Issey Miyake (there were random mentions e.g. John Varvatos Vintage, Marc Jacobs for men).
If you are looking for compliments take a hint from 99% of females out there. It is no small wonder that ADG is the top selling male fragrance of all time. I am under no illusions, fragrance community members are part of a very niche subculture. & by no means is Aventus the end-all-be-all of life and living.
If u think Im pulling stuff out of my @$$, I will cite & U see or yourself
PS:I own AVENTUS & it is all that, but I am convinced that it is over-priced and totally unnecessary. Aqua Di Gio is prly even a better fragrance. But my bank account doesn't want to hear that crap!
Last edited by LupeX; 15th August 2012 at 06:22 PM.
LupeX: that just might be one of the wisest posts I've seen on this forum in a while!
Yeah I agree with Lupex. AdG is really good though. If it were a niche fragrance, it would be Muhammad Ali.
Aventus smells divine on me and I have very difficult, fragrance eating skin. Aventus with its pineapple opening and smoky undertones is a work of genius. I am amazed at the number of compliments I received each and every time I wear aventus. Last week a female NYPD officer could not stay away from me. It is an excellent fragrance. Well made and one of the creed fragrances that actually lasts. Every gentleman should look into Aventus.
^ well said
I, too, have the Z01 batch, and am really liking it. I had the X02 before and was hoping it would be similar, and it is very much. Believe it or not, on my skin, I get very little smokiness with the Z01 though. Basically 12 hours of the top with very subtle hints of smoke. Strong patchouli for me in the mid/drydown. Jealous anyone? Haha
Two sprays max for me.
interesting review man. i really liked it. i enjoy aventus, but then again, i've only tried one batch


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Moses was supposedly found in bullrushes by an Egyptian princess and was raised as part of the Egyptian royal family.
When Moses saw a guard beating up a Jewish slave, why didn't Moses, as a member of the Egyptian royal family, just order the guard to stop? Why did he have to kill the guard? And even if he did kill the guard, didn't royalty have the right to kill whoever they wanted to?
Look at European royalty until modern times; they could imprison, torture, and kill whoever they wanted to. I imagine Egyptian royalty would have the same rights.
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It's time to meet your match, people—your four-legged match! Once again the ASPCA is teaming up with dozens of animal shelters across the country for the second-annual ASPCA Mega Match-a-thon! This weekend (October 18-20), nearly 40 animal rescues across the country are joining forces to co-host some epic adoption events. We threw down more than $278,000 in grants to help make it happen.
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I agree you ladies everthing is hashtag this n that I didn't know what it was. Just list the locations please.
see I didn't even know how to spell IT!
I'm a computer programmer, and I STILL do not know what a hashtag is. Thinking everyone is on Twitter and only marketing to those users is completely ignoring a large number of people who would make wonderful pet parents. I for one, do NOT belong/follow Twitter, nor will I ever, so I guess I will not be attending your events.
I'm with you, Jen--I don't care if the Pope is on Twitter, I'm never joining it.
I agree with the above comments; I was also looking for which facilities were doing this. The website should at least provide phone numbers for major cities. But, if you truly want a pet, don't take your frustration out on the animals! I volunteer at a local SPCA and LOVE to see animals leave their kennels/cages and go home. Please call your local shelter -- just go anyway! Don't wait for a special occasion to bring home a new friend.
If it makes you feel better, I don't know what a hashtag is and I don't follow Twitter or Facebook. Sometimes I don't agree with people do either, but I try to remember we're here to help the animals. If you care about them I hope you think about and come to the events. Its difficult going with the flow, but who knows maybe you'll enjoy yourself in the end.
Where & when is it? Is this the Best Friends event in Westchester? What are you talking about?
Ladies......just google, animal shelters in my area, put in state and zip, and you can find out locations and details........
Eve, Betsey and Lisa- I just googled "ASPCA Mega Match-a-thon" and shelters local to me that are holding events popped up. That's probably the easiest way to find something near you.


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I was wondering if anyone could comment on the following two questions?
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2. Sam Harris states that religion is "unhelpful" because it bases morality and how one should act more on the next life rather than this current one. Yet, why is this always bad? After all the early Christians were able to concern themselves with those who had smallpox, and various other diseases because they were more interested in their next life rather than their present day one? The Roman pagans ran to the hills while the Christians faced the present dangers facing their society.


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The only bottle that I wish I purchased more of is Prada Amber Pour Homme. 50 mL is plenty for everything else.
Thread: Have you ever...?
Have you ever looked at your wardrobe, and realized that you did not need to purchase "that much" of a fragrance? Or that you should have purchased a larger bottle?
I find myself constantly opening my drawers and asking myself, "Why did I get the 3.4 oz..." I know the price is usually favorable, but I can't help but wonder. I also wish that I would have reconsidered bottle sizes on some of my complimentary bottles. L'Homme compliments La Nuit, and vise versa. I own a 100ml of La Nuit and a 50ml of L'Homme. However, I wish those bottle sizes were switched around, as I tend to wear L'Homme a lot more now (the night life dies once the semester starts!)
How about you, ladies and gentlemen? Do you find yourself wanting to downsize on a specific bottle? Wishing you would have purchased the larger one? Or simply wishing you could switch bottle sizes on some of your fragrances.
The only bottle that I wish I purchased more of is Prada Amber Pour Homme. 50 mL is plenty for everything else.
Current top 10 (No order):
1. Pure Havane
2. Menthe Fraiche
3. Tobacco Vanille
4. L'Air Du Desert Marocain
5. Green Irish Tweed
6. Fahrenheit
7. Musc Ravageur
8. Tonka Imperial
9. Gucci Pour Homme II
10. Dior Homme Intense
HM by Hanae Mori. I bought 100mL's for $34 (this was with a bunch of old coupons, would have been like $60). I like it on occasion, but I doubt I'll ever get through all 100mL's.
Have never wanted to downsize a bottle nor my collection, at least not yet.
I have several fragrances (well, probably most) that I will never get all the way through, simply because I have so many to choose from. However, the price difference is always so small between 50 and 100 ml, I almost always just spend a little more and get the 100ml... just to be sure!
Seasonal favorites:
1. Xerjoff - Nio
2. Creed - Aventus
3. Tom Ford - Grey Vetiver
4. The Different Company - De Bachmakov
5. Dior - Homme Sport 2008
6. Montale - Aoud Legacy
7. Creed - Virgin Island Water
8. by Kilian - Straight to Heaven
9. Creed - Original Cologne
10. Clive Christian - 1872 for Men
I never really feel I have "too much" of one, as I figure I'll eventually use it over the years. If I don't like it enough to use it, or simply get tired of it, then I can always sell or swap it. I have some favorites, however, that I currently only have 50 ml or decants of, and definitely wish I would have gotten more of at the time for just a little bit more money.
I assume that my collection will be significantly downsized in a couple of years. All I really set out to do, a couple of years ago, was to find, let's say, forty or so, fragrances that I'd really enjoy wearing. Maybe 30-40. So, yes, I've made some mistakes and ended up with some bottles that are too big. It's part of the process. I assume that I'm going to have to try a few hundred names, wear them multiple times, live with them for a while, before I can really make an informed choice about what to keep. At least half of what I have is in bath and body product form, so even when I'm not in love with a fragrance it still has some usefulness as soap, or it keeps my skin from drying out, so everything gets used up (pretty much).
Anyway, the goal is to have less than half of what I have now. It'll take a while and, yes, I have too much of some names I don't like. I've only thrown out an almost full bottle once, a bottle of Kouros Cologne Sport shower gel. Though... my bottle of the reformulated Quorum and my bottle of Gentiane Blanche may meet the same fate, depending on space needs.
I have 50+ bottles. I am in the process of reducing my collection to about 25. I have found what I really like and and I will use the money I receive for the other bottles and save it for something else.
Current top 10 (No order):
1. Pure Havane
2. Menthe Fraiche
3. Tobacco Vanille
4. L'Air Du Desert Marocain
5. Green Irish Tweed
6. Fahrenheit
7. Musc Ravageur
8. Tonka Imperial
9. Gucci Pour Homme II
10. Dior Homme Intense
I believe that 99% of the time, a 1 oz bottle would be perfect for guys like me with at least 20 bottles. That 1% exception are my Creeds, which I wear more often (and because I love the bottles). I just never use anything up, although I do have a 1 oz of Aventus that will probably run out by Spring (but I have a 1.7 oz back-up).
Ive only thought of upsizing my collection haha! Its always good to have more of the better things in life
Current Top 5:
1. Frederic Malle L'eau d'Hiver
2. Tom Ford Noir de Noir
3. Dior Homme / Dior Homme Intense
4. Thierry Mugler A*Men Pure Havane / Pure Malt
5. Creed Aventus / Tom Ford Tobacco Vanille
I fully agree with Teemas on this. It has been rather the opposite. Always the constant urge to expand, branch out, trade up, diversify etc., could never stop genuinely enjoying purchasing certain frags.
I find myself reaching: for the bigger sized bottles when greed invades me, and for the small ones when I think clearly how a small size will be good for the next ten years or so, considering all the bottles and decants I already have.
Kurt smells like Teen Spirit
I was upsold to get a gift set of D&G The One. I now have a 100 and a 50. Although it's a great frag, I don't use it nearly enough to warrant that much in my collection. I would have been fine with just the 50. Then again, by applying for the department credit card, along with the sales etc, the 50 in the gift set was technically free when I purchased the 100 so I don't feel TOO badly about it!
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I'm not obsessed, I'm passionately intrigued. The difference is how much money I have available to spend!
Yes. There are definitely bottles I wish were bigger and others I wish I had just got a sample of instead. I did a lot of blind ebay buying soon after I found this site and have expanded my collection to where there are frags that I will never wear. Probably need to start selling some of them.
I usually buy 50 ml unless there is only 100 ml available. And whenever I see the level of a scent decrease slightly I start panicking and wish I had bought the big bottle (when it is a beloved scent). But to be honest, most of the time the level decreases not because of heavy usage but rather by decanting samples.
I think I should always buy 100 ml, and when it turns out too much I can still sell bigger decants (if it wasn't work...)
Quite a few. I'm awful at picking bottle sizes.
I wish I had 3.4oz bottles of Angel Men, Gucci Pour Homme II, Burberry London, Versace the Dreamer, Dior Fahrenheit, and Bulgari Black. I love each and every one of those.
Meanwhile, I wish I had smaller bottles of Dolce and Gabbana the One and YSL La Nuit De L'Homme. I don't wear those often enough at all. I don't even like them that much.
Sure. For some I'm glad I'd bought a full bottle e.g. Esencia Loewe. For others which I don't love as much e.g. Tom Ford Italian Cypress, 50 ml is way too much.
Definitely a lot of interesting answers. I suppose it makes more sense to those of us who can afford to keep upsizing. I guess when I asked this, I had in mind the rising cost of tuition, moving out, etc. Sometimes I think to myself that the extra money spend on larger bottles would add up to cover half of my rent for a month.
Oh well, if money were not an issue, I would not regret buying larger bottles
However, if I have other expenses (which I do now), I would probably downsize a bit
H.M. I like it. I got mine for under $30. If I live to be 200 years old, I doubt I'll ever finish it.
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I'm finally learning to pay more attention to the cost difference between smaller and larger sizes. If it's less than $10 (hello AMAZON!) I'll go for the large. Otherwise, I've finally started buying smaller sizes.
Anybody have a sample of Martin Margiela Untitled or Untitled L'Eau? I'm dying to smell these and I've got lots of great niche samples to swap!
"Follow your nose. It always knows." -- Toucan Sam
I don't think it's about this to be honest. My collection is constantly growing but when I can I usually buy the smallest bottle available down to about 20mls, at least when it comes to modern scents. The only time I buy big bottles is when I'm replacing something I love and wear frequently, buying backups of vintage/discontinued scents I want or shopping at a discounter who only offers larger sizes albiet at prices equal to or less than the cost of a smaller bottle elsewhere.Definitely a lot of interesting answers. I suppose it makes more sense to those of us who can afford to keep upsizing. I guess when I asked this, I had in mind the rising cost of tuition, moving out, etc.
It's not a question of whether or not the larger sizes are affordable. When I look at my collection and see a year old 100ml bottle that only has a few sprays missing though I might think, 'I could have gotten five minis or two or three 30ml bottles for that price,' and that can be cause for regret. There are just so many perfumes I want to buy. It's not even a question of following new releases, but of going back in time and searching out vintages. It's a hobby of endless discovery but the search costs money. Even if you have money to spare it makes sense to get more out of it, no?
When it comes to fragrances I love, fragrances that have stood the test of time, there is no such thing as too much. I think another basenoter put it best when they said they feel like they have to save them. However for the majority of modern fare I just want enough for a few months or a season of testing every now and then so I can fully come to grips with it. If I enjoy it I can always buy a larger bottle later. I find the cost of occasionally needing to replace an empty 30ml with a 50 or 100ml is off-set by the savings of buying smaller bottles in the first place.
I mean how far does one carry the bigger bottle logic? I rather like Caron Pour un Homme, but do I really need a 20 or so ounce bottle? Of course it's a huge saving for the quantity, but the standard 4.2 ounce/125ml bottle already lasts and lasts. Now if it were discontinued that's a different story.
Good point Miket. In my case I always go for the larger bottle simply because I can't justify purchasing 50ml for $10 less than 100ml. I suppose if these fragrances are going to last as long as I'm around, then it's no big deal
I looked at my measly 30ml bottle of Arpege pH and thought that, now that I like it, it has been discontinued and the prices have gone up. I could find and have bought another 30ml for a good price though, so now I feel a bit better about the whole issue.
I wonder why i wasted a ton of time and money on Ross and Marshalls AND Ebay on $15 bottles when i could have easily got probably 10 niche Frags with the money i spent!! ah well you always learn more going through Terrible times
I'm a collector, so no.
I'm pretty much the same. I mostly buy things from online discounters, and with them the difference between 50ml and 100ml bottles usually seems to be even less than in the shops (if they even have 50ml bottles). I've only bought 50ml bottles a few times when I've seen something hard to get or exceptionally cheap (eg £25 for 50ml of Gucci PHII from eBay, £18 for 50ml of Boss No 1 from Cheapsmells).However, the price difference is always so small between 50 and 100 ml, I almost always just spend a little more and get the 100ml... just to be sure!
There are a few samples in my collection that I like, but only wear rarely. I wouldn't buy a bigger bottle b/c I'd never get through it,.
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ive been feeling that way as of late sucks i feel i only need about of them cuz i love them the rest i just like
1. Dior Homme Original
2. Musc Ravaguer
3. Portrait of a Lady
4. Noir de Noir
5. L Instant Guerlain pour Homme Extreme
6. New Haarlem
7. Pure Coffee
8. Blu Mediterraneo Sicilian Almond
9. Rose 31
10. Spiritueuse Double Vanille
I've not yet wanted to downsize any of my bottles at all, but there are quite a few in my collection that I regretted only buying smaller bottles of.
The most memorable of these was M7 Fresh. I bought a 50 ml bottle blind (unfortunately, like most designer flankers almost none of them make it to the shores of Australia!) based mainly on my love of M7 and the almost ludicrous idea of pairing citrus with oud.
To my surprise I fell instantly in love with M7 Fresh – I'm now on my second 100ml bottle after finishing the original 50ml and another full 100ml!
I have 8-10 scents I wear all the time . Conservative estimate of approx 4 sprays per day , maybe 2 sprays for 2 different scents. That gives approx .5ml used per day or around 185ml per year. 6 of these scents are used in yearly rotation. Maybe 2 are used less so. By my calculation I need no more than 35ml of each scent throughout the year. 100ml is the max size I will go for in any scent now. I figure approx 3 years of use is just fine and then time to restock.
All interesting replies. Definitely true Stanmar, if I did the math, my collection would outlive me. But I generally buy my fragrances without even thinking "I have too many." I just like trying new things
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well, when you've mentioned it, why do I need 50 ml of Joop! Homme? 30 ml is just about more than enough when it comes to this fragrance XD
Zino Davidoff - 75 ml, hardly ever worn, maybe 15 times thus far. Great classic but simply I lack the desire to wear it.
Karl Lagerfeld Classic - 30 ml, and 30 is indeed enough. Great classic but it's almost the same case as it is with my Zino.
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Yes, 80% of the time when I've purchased a big 3.4oz or 4.2oz bottle over small sizes, I've regretted it. Except for a few select favorites that I wear all the time, I prefer variety. It's hard to justify owning a big 3.4 oz bottle of something I rarely ever use. Even if the bigger bottle is a better value, I could have put that money towards another fragrance to expand the collection.


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