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|Dec 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
Let's not forget about zero-day exploits, improperly sandboxed applications or plug-ins, users that run as admin, out-of-date operating systems, Adobe Flash Player (which has an auto-update daemon that can write to ''/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/'' at the very least), Java (which anyone with open-source software such as LibreOffice or OpenOffice will typically have installed), etc.
Malware software authors typically don't like to follow the rules that the OS puts in place, and there are many ways around those rules. Privilege escalation is not even close to impossible.
I'm not an Apple hater quite the opposite, really but I also won't blindly assume that I'm safe because I have a Mac. Any computer with an internet connection and/or a user is potentially vulnerable.
|Dec 14, 2012, 10:56 AM
Common sense on the user part is a big factor in this. If you use some you are generally safe. If you don't, oh well.
|Dec 14, 2012, 11:41 AM
This post is a response to posts stating that Windows is not less secure than OS X.
1) Until Vista, the admin account in Windows did not implement DAC in a way to prevent malware by default. Also, Windows has a far greater number of privilege escalation vulnerabilities that allow bypassing DAC restrictions even if DAC is enabled in Windows.
Much of the ability to turn these vulnerabilities into exploits is due to the insecurity of the Windows registry. Also, more easily being able to link remote exploits to local privilege escalation exploits in Windows is due to the Windows registry.
Mac OS X does not use an exposed monolithic structure, such as the Windows registry, to store system settings. Also, exposed configuration files in OS X do not exert as much influence over associated processes as the registry does in Windows.
Mac OS X Snow Leopard has contained only 4 elevation of privilege vulnerabilities since it was released; obviously, none of these were used in malware. Lion has contained 2 so far but one of these vulnerabilities doesn't affect all account types because of being due to a permissions error rather than code vulnerability.
The following link shows the number of privilege escalation vulnerabilities in Windows 7 related to just win32k:
More information about privilege escalation in Windows 7:
http://www.exploit-db.com/bypassing-...vista7-mirror/ -> guide to develop exploits to bypass UAC by manipulating registry entries for kernel mode driver vulnerabilities.
https://media.blackhat.com/bh-dc-11/...nelpool-wp.pdf -> more complete documentation about Windows kernel exploitation.
http://mista.nu/research/mandt-win32k-paper.pdf -> more complete documentation about alternative methods to exploit the Windows kernel.
http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/td...net-bug-120710 -> article about the TDL-4 botnet which uses a UAC bypass exploit when infecting Windows 7.
2) Windows has the potential to have full ASLR but most software does not fully implement the feature. Most software in Windows has some DLLs (dynamic link libraries = Windows equivalent to dyld) which are not randomized.
http://secunia.com/gfx/pdf/DEP_ASLR_2010_paper.pdf -> article overviewing the issues with ASLR and DEP implementation in Windows.
Also, methods have been found to bypass ASLR in Windows 7.
http://vreugdenhilresearch.nl/Pwn2Ow...tExplorer8.pdf -> article describing bypassing ASLR in Windows 7.
Mac OS X has full ASLR implemented on par with Linux. This includes ASLR with position independent executables (PIE). DLLs in Windows have to be pre-mapped at fixed addresses to avoid conflicts so full PIE is not possible with ASLR in Windows.
Using Linux distros with similar runtime security mitigations as Lion for a model, client-side exploitation is incredibly difficult without some pre-established local access. Of course, this is self defeating if the goal of the exploitation is to achieve that local access in the first place.
See the paper linked below about bypassing the runtime security mitigations in Linux for more details.
The author only manages to do so while already having local access to the OS.
3) Mac OS X Lion has DEP on stack and heap for both 64-bit and 32-bit processes. Third party software that is 32-bit may lack this feature until recompiled in Xcode 4 within Lion. Not much software for OS X is still 32-bit.
But, not all software in Windows uses DEP; this includes 64-bit software. See first article linked in #2.
4) Mac OS X implements canaries using ProPolice, the same mitigation used in Linux. ProPolice is considered the most thorough implementation of canaries. It is known to be much more effective than the similar system used in Windows.
http://www.blackhat.com/presentation...rman-paper.pdf -> article comparing ProPolice to stack canary implementation in Windows.
5) Application sandboxing and mandatory access controls (MAC) in OS X are the same thing. More specifically, applications are sandboxed in OS X via MAC. Mac OS X uses the TrustedBSD MAC framework, which is a derivative of MAC from SE-Linux. This system is mandatory because it does not rely on inherited permissions. Both mandatorily exposed services (mDNSresponder, netbios...) and many client-side apps (Safari, Preview, TextEdit ) are sandboxed in Lion.
Windows does not have MAC. The system that provides sandboxing in Windows, called mandatory integrity controls (MIC), does not function like MAC because it is not actually mandatory. MIC functions based on inherited permissions so it is essentially an extension of DAC (see #1). If UAC is set with less restrictions or disabled in Windows, then MIC has less restrictions or is disabled.
http://www.exploit-db.com/download_pdf/16031 -> article about Mac sandbox.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...(v=VS.85).aspx -> MS documentation about MIC.
https://media.blackhat.com/bh-eu-11/...xes-Slides.pdf -> researchers have found the MIC in IE is not a security boundary.
6) In relation to DAC and interprocess sandboxing in OS X in comparison with some functionality of MIC in Windows 7 (see #5), the XNU kernel used in OS X has always had more secure interprocess communication (IPC) since the initial release of OS X.
Mac OS X, via being based on Mach and BSD (UNIX foundation), facilitates IPC using mach messages secured using port rights that implement a measure of access controls on that communication. These access controls applied to IPC make it more difficult to migrate injected code from one process to another.
Adding difficulty to transporting injected code across processes reduces the likelihood of linking remote exploits to local exploits to achieve system level access.
As of OS X Lion, the XPC service has also been added to implement MAC (see #5) on IPC in OS X. (http://developer.apple.com/library/m...CServices.html)
7) Security benefits of a UNIX foundation
Not all software vulnerabilities are exploitable. Vulnerabilities that are not exploitable only allow a denial of service condition upon being triggered. Exploitable vulnerabilities allow code execution when triggered.
There are two methods to achieve code execution in relation to buffer overflows:
1) RET overwrite -> control return address of instruction pointer
2) SEH (structured exception handler) overwrite -> control content of handler that will be executed upon an exception
To clarify:
Mitigations have been developed to prevent SEH overwrites. These include SafeSEH and SEHOP. Methods are known that allow bypassing both mitigations.
SafeSEH is bypassed if only one component of the program doesn't implement this mitigation; it is common that not all components implement SafeSEH.
SEHOP is bypassed if ASLR is compromised via a memory disclosure vulnerability.
So, what does this have to do with the security benefits of a UNIX foundation?
UNIX and UNIX-like operating systems, such as Mac OS X and Linux, don't have structured exception handling. So, SEH overwrites, as a vector to increase the number of exploitable vulnerabilities, doesn't exist in these operating systems. The signalling system used in these operating systems isn't liable to this type of manipulation.
SEH overwrites do provide a plausible explanation for more vulnerabilities being exploitable in Windows.
8) Windows has far more public and/or unpatched vulnerabilities than OS X.
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-release...110606584.html -> article about 18 year old UAC bypass vulnerability.
9) Password handling in OS X is much more secure than Windows.
The default account created in Windows does not require a password. The protected storage API in Windows incorporates the users password into the encryption key for items located in protected storage. If no password is set, then the encryption algorithm used is not as strong. Also, no access controls are applied to items within protected storage.
In Mac OS X, the system prompts the user to define a password at setup. This password is incorporated into the encryption keys for items stored in keychain. Access controls are implemented for items within keychain.
Also, Mac OS X Lion uses a salted SHA512 hash, which is still considered cryptographically secure. It is more robust than the MD4 NTLMv2 hash used to store passwords in Windows 7.
http://www.windowsecurity.com/articl...ord-Part1.html -> article about Windows password hashing.
10) The new runtime security mitigation improvements to be included in Windows 8 have already been defeated.
To put this into perspective, methods to bypass the new runtime security mitigations in Mac OS X Lion are not yet available.
11)In regards to recent earlier version of Mac OS X:
The following article relates to varying levels of security mitigations in different Linux distros but it is applicable in revealing that the runtime security mitigations in some earlier versions of Mac OS X prior to Lion were far from inadequate.
While Mac OS X Leopard/SL lack full ASLR, Windows Vista/7 have stack canaries (aka stack cookies) that are trivial to bypass.
The following link shows the issues with stack canaries in Windows. -> http://www.blackhat.com/presentation...rman-paper.pdf
Windows Vista/7 = NX + ASLR
Mac OS X Leopard/SL = NX + stack cookies
These articles show that NX in combination with stack canaries is more difficult to bypass than a combination of NX and ASLR.
12) Mountain Lion only improves upon the security of Lion.
BTW, Safari on a Mac running Lion was not hacked at the last pwn2own.
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|Dec 14, 2012, 12:51 PM
How do I know if my Mac is getting the lastest definitions?
Thanks in advance.
|Dec 14, 2012, 09:54 PM
In nearly all cases they have to type in their Administrators password with their own hands and in some cases their own phone numbers or sensitive data.
The operating system is working as it should to protecting the computer. But cannot protect the computer from the owner themselves blatantly typing things in without knowing what their doing or where it came from.
|Dec 14, 2012, 10:00 PM
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|Dec 14, 2012, 10:13 PM
I think the best protection & security is knowledge. If a popup tells you need to install such and such file to use/view the website would raise a red flag with me.
|Dec 15, 2012, 09:59 AM
Macs are not immune to malware, but no true viruses exist in the wild that can run on Mac OS X, and there never have been any since it was released over 10 years ago. The only malware in the wild that can affect Mac OS X is a handful of trojans, which can be easily avoided by practicing safe computing (see below). Also, Mac OS X 10.6 and later versions have anti-malware protection built in, further reducing the need for 3rd party antivirus apps.
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|Dec 15, 2012, 10:43 PM
I see a lot of INSULTS going on in this thread about how STUPID people would have to be to get their computer infected. I've seen similar comments elsewhere about AIDS, etc. as well. These people think condoms never fail, birth control is 100% effective and other naive conclusions just because it hasn't happened to them (yet anyway). I simply think people could be a little less careless with their comments. It's not only against the rules to flame/insult people on here, but it can and will bite you in the hind quarter some day. To quote Bogart, "Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life."
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|Dec 15, 2012, 11:53 PM
I never called anyone stupid or implied it. You can even check all of my other posts if you feel like and won't see me speaking to anyone in that manner or even implying it. See if you can find where I have insulted anyone on this site.
You initially question whether or not I only only download and install signed software and then make the snide comment that I must then have a limited selection.
I never said that my computer was immune or that I was guaranteed never to download malware/spyware; just that I hadn't yet. When you know what kind of app you are looking for, and are discriminating when looking for the sources; as you said, a "small" risk is involved. Small. Yes, the risk is still there. I haven't denied that, but I also don't download a BUNCH of unsigned software from strange sources or through torrents.
I understand that people can get scammed and that it is not always their fault. But if you have concerns about the nature of a credit card scanner; then don't use it. If you're worried at all that some chick you want has something that you don't; then you probably shouldn't. I know that birth control is not 100% effective and all of these analogies are irrelevant and also reflect why initial bad judgement when something seems a little off makes that action inherently more of a risk than going to trusted stations for a full tank, or trusted and statistically safer areas to empty the other tanks. In those cases, the person that refuses to acknowledge the increased risk must also take some of the blame in their own theft or infection. True, not all the blame, but there is some degree of culpability involved.
You should also consider your wording because even though you don't say people that download malware/spyware are stupid, your phrasing implies that the ignorant ones are statistically more prone to it. Because of this, those that are intelligent and discriminating(based on your own statement) are less likely to be a victim. As such, the more educated and prepared are then even less likely than the mildly educated; and so on and so forth.
And I really wish that they would bring the down-vote back just so I could counteract those that think your post was helpful or appropriate; because it wasn't.
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|Dec 16, 2012, 10:30 AM
Seems strange to me that no malware/scam programmer understands a thing about imitating a typical OS X installer. The fonts are placed way off, centered in a strange way and badly cascaded, and the background within the installer... ugh!
|Dec 22, 2012, 02:11 PM
Apps that install with sufficient privileges to compromise protected data entry and protected data storage are installed via an installer.
Most installers and updaters, such as the Sparkle framework, verify checksums to mitigate the malware attack you describe from occurring.
Also, using the code signing available in OS X L/ML via Gatekeeper mitigates these types of attacks via the same mechanism as installers and updaters.
So the chance of this type of attack successfully targeting OS X users is unlikely.
|Dec 22, 2012, 06:11 PM
Most installers and updaters? Do you really think a trojan is going to use the official installer or updater or just imitate their appearance?
The real question is whether the user is going to be able to tell the difference. Obviously, bad grammar, odd fonts, etc. could be giveaways, but a good scam isn't going to make those mistakes (and that doesn't stop some for falling for the bad ones either, it seems).
Gatekeeper sounds good in theory, but falls apart in practice if you have a large variety of software to install and you actually want the software rather than just whining why doesn't the author have a certificate on file with Apple. I had to disable it within 20 minutes of starting up my new computer because it refused to let me install any number of programs (many of them older ones that aren't necessarily updated, but are still plenty useful).
As for passwords, there are PLENTY of programs that DO require them (e.g. anything that installs a preference pane like "A Better Finder", Adobe Flash, Flip4Mac, Microsoft's Mouse driver, Perian, to name just a few) all require a password to install. Is the average user going to realize that a trojan version of a given program is asking for password permission and the real program would not ask for it when they don't have the real program? Is the average person aware of the difference? Would the average person even know about any of these things?
My point is that "average" Mac users aren't super knowledgeable about computers in general and are therefore at greater risk for malware like trojans than ones that do, but no one is at zero risk that uses a computer over the Internet. It may be "unlikely" but so is getting hit by lightning and that still happens to over 1000 people each year. I'd dare say malware victims number considerably higher than that (even on the Mac). Are they all "stupid?" A lot of people on here sure think so, but I simply see no need for name-calling (which is all over this thread). It's childish and makes me question the intelligence of the very people calling others stupid.
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|Dec 23, 2012, 01:04 PM
If an app updates via the Sparkle framework then already installed versions of the app won't be updated to the malicious version due to the checksum verification.
Gatekeeper includes the same type of verification so users that are updating existing installs wouldn't be affected.
Most popular third party apps use the Sparkle framework or are found in the App Store or use a Mac developer digital certificate from Apple.
In reference to fresh installs, developers would realize something was wrong when their own app that they are hosting doesn't match it's own checksum. I doubt such malicious apps would be hosted very long for any popular app still under active development.
Gatekeeper also protects users from Trojans in general because unsigned apps can't run until manually allowed to do so. This prevents Trojans from sneaking into the system.
BTW, Gatekeeper allows users to manually create exceptions for individual apps without completely turning Gatekeeper off so Gatekeeper doesn't need to be disabled to run unsigned apps but the user does have to manually create an exception for unsigned apps to run.
Also, if users only run signed apps by not manually bypassing Gatekeeper for any unsigned apps, then unsigned apps won't be run and the risk of Trojans is mitigated.
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|Dec 23, 2012, 03:02 PM
I think I said TROJAN quite clearly. It is, after all, the focal point of the thread.
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|Dec 23, 2012, 05:45 PM
I stated why that type of attack is unlikely to be successful, which is the reason that these attacks rarely occur. I can't recall an incident of this type of attack occurring targeting OS X recently or in the past. This type of attack definitely doesn't have a high incidence rate most likely specifically due to the reasons I provided. More specifically, the reason being checksum verification.
No, so provide that app with an manual exemption and Gatekeeper still works as intended and prevents other unsigned apps from sneaking onto the system.
For example, if a trojan is an app disguised as a PDF, Gatekeeper prevents it from executing when the user tries to open the fake PDF due to the rogue app being unsigned.
It is safer to just create manual exemptions for an unsigned app that the user can vet and keep Gatekeeper enabled to mitigate the attacks I just described.
Am I in the twilight zone? Do you not understand how Gatekeeper can be a benefit in this regard?
BTW, Flip4Mac is now signed with an Apple certificate.
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|Dec 24, 2012, 10:13 AM
As your own picture shows, the ONLY thing Gatekeeper does is tell you that you've gotten the program off the Internet and ask you if you're sure you'd like to open this app from an unrecognized developer. How is that helpful if you need/want that program? Your only choices are to either NOT open it (which means you're "safe" but you don't get to use the software you need/want) or TAKE YOUR CHANCES.
And thus the real problem with Gatekeeper is that Apple can and may very well misuse it in the future to block all software that isn't coming from their own App store since they want that 30% take on all software sales from every developer on Earth like they're already getting from iOS developers (well at least the ones that haven't had to go jailbreak because Apple doesn't "like" their software for competition, adult software or other spurious "Big Brother" type reasons). Personally, I don't want that extended to OSX in general and Gatekeeper is a BIG step in that direction.
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|Dec 25, 2012, 04:16 PM
Both have nothing to do with signed apps and were around long before code signing.
File Quarantine notifies the user if a PDF or other file is actually an executable.
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|Dec 26, 2012, 11:08 AM
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|Dec 26, 2012, 02:39 PM
The Sparkle framework is developed by a third party and has nothing to do with Apple's actual
Installation software.
Don't forget that our conversation is referring to the scenario of the website of an app being hacked and hijacked with the actual app being replaced with a malicious counterfeit; different variables apply.
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Depart from origin. If you are commencing your journey from the United States, we can recommend the best airlines and routings for your particular needs. We can also introduce you to consolidators who offer discounted fares (First, Business and Economy) on these flights. This is a service provided solely as a convenience and extra value for our guests. We do not sell airline tickets to people not touring with us.
Day 1: Arrive at Delhi (most flights arrive either in the evening or at night). Our services begin here. You are greeted at the airport by an Easy Tours Travel Facilitator and ushered to a chauffeur driven vehicle. You are then driven to your hotel where you are assisted with your check in. The next day's plans are briefly reviewed and you are presented with your welcome package. Among other things, this package includes a beautiful handcrafted journal for your explorations, travel documents such as your air tickets and hotel vouchers, as well as copies of documents (such as our General Travel Guide) that were sent to you earlier.
Day 2: Delhi. You are at leisure this morning to recuperate from your international flight.
Afternoon – start your exploration of India with a tour of New Delhi. This excursion begins with the awe-inspiring Qutab Minar (1193 A.D.). This 239 ft tall medieval tower is a symbol of victory and a beautiful example of Persian architecture from that period. There is a winding stairway inside the tower that goes up all the way to the balcony at the very top of the tower – unfortunately they are no longer accessible for visitors. The Qutab Minar and its Monuments are also a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
Within the Qutab complex, amidst the ruins of the Quwat-ul-Islam Mosque, stands one of the legendary Ashoka Pillars. This large iron pillar has withstood the ravages of Delhi's weather (and recent pollution) and has not rusted in over 1500 years. After the Qutab complex you will be driven to visit the magnificent tomb of the Mughal Emperor Humayun. Delhi has such an abundance of amazing monuments that this Tomb Complex (1562 A.D.) does not quite get the acclaim that it deserves. It is Delhi's third UNESCO World Heritage Site and its amazing architecture and the elaborate gardens will captivate you.
From the tomb you will proceed on a drive to Lutyens' New Delhi. Time permitting (you will have time available on the next day for completing this exploration), this drive will include photo opportunities at some of the following attractions - the exterior of the massive and awe-inspiring Rashtrapati Bhawan (known as Viceroy's House during the British era), Delhi's landmark structure India Gate, a golden domed Sikh Temple (Bangla Sahib Gurudwara), & the Birla Temple. The last part of this excursion is a drive through Connaught Place, which is New Delhi's downtown.
Day 3: Delhi. Enjoy a guided city tour of Old Delhi. Drive, walk and ride through the ancient city's streets and alleys; explore crowded and colorful bazaars. This excursion includes a tour of the Charity Bird Hospital inside the Jain Digambra Tempe. The hospital is free of charge but not meant for pet birds as Jain philosophy dictates that any birds brought in here are released in the open after they recover. Next comes an exploration of the Jama Masjid (1650 AD), the largest mosque in India. The Masjid (Mosque) is a magnificent example of Mughal architecture and is constructed of red sandstone and white marble. It is an active place of worship and its courtyard can hold 25,000 worshippers. You continue on to the amazing Red Fort that was finished a decade before the mosque. Both structures were built by Shah Jahan, the emperor that created the Taj Mahal. The great city inside the massive sandstone walls of the Red Fort offers visitors a large number of architectural and historical attractions; it was once known as the 8th wonder of the world. The Red Fort was the seat of the Mughal Empire for more than two hundred and fifty years and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. It is an amazing example of a blend of Persian, Indian, and European architecture. You will also experience a fascinating rickshaw ride in the ancient alleys of the crowded and colorful bazaar at Chandni Chowk. After these experiences a short drive will deliver you to an oasis of calm and serenity, which also happens to be your last destination in Old Delhi. The cremation site of Mahatma Gandhi (Raj Ghat) is a simple yet stirring memorial to the father of the nation. Lush lawns extend beyond the enclosure that surrounds the black marble platform occupying the spot where the Mahatma was cremated. An eternal flame burns next to the platform.
There is a break for lunch.
Afternoon – Enjoy a guided visit to the National Museum of Natural History. This is India's finest museum and has a vast selection of fascinating exhibits spanning many millennia of India's history. The second museum experience is an exploration of the National Rail Museum (closed on Mondays), with its collection of steam powered locomotives. This includes the Fairy Queen, the world's oldest running locomotive, built in 1885. There are a number of other fascinating exhibits, including one of the two remaining Morris-Belsize Fire Engine's in the world today, various Saloon's that were built for Indian and British Royalty, and a toy train takes you around (available on most days) the 10 acre museum.
Day 4: Delhi. You are at leisure on this day. The only service provided by Easy Tours is your Hotel Room, including breakfast and taxes. A chauffeur driven vehicle as well as a guide can be arranged for half a day or the full day. Delhi has a lot of experiences and activities that you can indulge in, including great dining and souvenir shopping. There are interactive experiences that families can enjoy, such as the shows at the impressive Akshardham Temple Complex. Our staff can make suggestions based on your preferences.
Day 5: Delhi – Agra. You are assisted with your checkout from your hotel and driven to Delhi's railway station where you are assisted with boarding the early morning Express train to Agra for a two hour journey. This is an opportunity to experience an Indian Railway Station, something that you will find nowhere else on this planet. Your Easy Tours Facilitator assists you in getting seated in your assigned seats and gets your luggage ported to the appropriate location above your seats. The facilitator stays with you until the train departs. Your Travel Facilitator provides you with a detailed itinerary of the trains schedule so as to make you comfortable with every step of the journey. Refreshments are served by Indian Railways during this journey – we recommend that you refrain from consuming these (except for the bottled water) as you will have been provided with a bagged breakfast. You are greeted by an Easy Tours Facilitator on your arrival at Agra. If an early check-in is available, you are driven to your hotel and assisted with your check-in. If it is not available, you can either commence your guided exploration directly or opt to visit your hotel and use the facilities there before you start your sightseeing.
You now start your exploration of Agra with a half day city tour of the magnificent monuments of this city. The exploration of Agra includes a visit to the famous tomb of Itmad-Ud–Daulah. This memorial was built by the Mughal Emperor Jehangir's queen as a memorial to her father. The tombs sheer beauty will surprise you – the only reason it does not get more accolades is because it shares the stage with the incomparable Taj Mahal. Like the Taj it has amazingly intricate 'Pietra Dura' inlay and lattice marble screens. The mausoleum rests in a walled garden with a view of the river Yamuna. Constructed in the year 1628, most historians believe that its design provided the inspiration for the Taj Mahal. After your exploration of the tomb you will visit the first red sandstone fort of North India, the Agra Fort. It was built in 1565 by India's greatest Mughal ruler, Emperor Akbar. Its royal audience halls, immense stone courtyards, marble mosque and the private royal chambers give us a glimpse of the grandeur of the Mughal Empire.
There is a break for lunch.
Afternoon - Visit one of the Seven Wonders of the World, the incomparable Taj Mahal. The world's greatest monument dedicated to love is obviously a UNESCO World Heritage Site. The Taj Mahal was completed by Emperor Shah Jahan in 1653 AD as a memorial to his beloved queen, Mumtaz Mahal. This spectacular white marble mausoleum was created by about 22,000 skilled craftsmen and it took twenty two years to complete. When you experience the Taj Mahal with an Easy Tours Guide and have them provide unique insights into its innumerable facets, some of their passion for this masterpiece may rub off on you! Explore the amazing Taj and its surroundings until it is time to admire the sun's rays setting on the façade of the world's finest monument.
Day 6: Agra – Jaipur. You can either sleep in or chose to enjoy either of these two optional excursions - a sunrise visit to Mehtab Bagh (no charge), which is a 500 year old Mughal garden located across from the Taj Mahal on the other side of the Yamuna River; or a sunrise visit to the Taj Mahal (entry fee surcharge applies). If you select either of the latter options, you will return to your hotel to freshen up after the excursion. An optional experience where you can learn how to tie a Sari or a Turban is available this midmorning. You can choose to enjoy the facilities at your hotel until just before noon. If you do not start out for Ranthambore fairly early in the morning (enabling you to have a late lunch on arrival), we recommend that you consider getting a packed lunch from the hotel for your journey. The dining/rest stopover during the journey offers limited choices.
You are assisted with your check-out from your hotel and then you are driven to Fatehpur Sikri. Enjoy a guided exploration of this beautiful uninhabited city. It was built by Emperor Akbar between 1570 and 1585 and is constructed primarily out of red sandstone. The Emperor moved his capital from Agra to this city and then, a few years later, abandoned it, returning back to Agra. Visit the tallest gateway in the world, the towering Bulund Darwaza (The Gate of Victory). In the northern part of the courtyard is the superb white marble tomb of Shaik Salim Chishti, built in 1570.
Continue on with your journey to Jaipur. You are assisted with your check in at your hotel at Jaipur.
Evening – Join your Easy Tours Facilitator and drive to a local restaurant where you will enjoy a dinner and Rajasthani cultural show that includes regional dance, music and acrobatic performances.
Jaipur is famous for its carpets, jewelry & handicrafts.
Day 7: Jaipur. Join your chauffeur and guide for the short drive to Amer Fort. Just like the Emperors of a few centuries ago, enjoy the ascent up to the ramparts of the fort on top of a colorfully caparisoned elephant (jeeps are available instead of the elephants, if you so desire). The massive Fort complex was originally built by Raja Mansingh and is one of India's finest examples of Rajput architecture. Explore the chambers and hallways, which are famous for their exquisite designs and handcrafted embellishments. Return to the valley beneath the Fort on your elephant or jeep and proceed to your Jaipur Hotel, where you are assisted with your check-in.
There is a break for lunch.
Afternoon - enjoy a city tour of the walled city of Jaipur, including the magnificent City Palace. Visit Jantar Mantar (UNESCO World Heritage Site), the magnificent stone observatory built by Raja Jai Singh in 1728. After the observatory comes a photo opportunity of the 'Hawa Mahal' (Palace of the Wind). This intriguing facade was built in 1799 so that the ladies of the court could use its unique windows and observe the bustling bazaar, without being visible to the people on the streets. Continue the tour with an exploration of the City Palace, the former royal residence (a part of it is still occupied by the Royal family and is not accessible to the public), built in a blend of Rajasthani and Mughal architectural styles. This immense complex also houses a number of museums that offer a large and impressive collection of miniature paintings, costumes, and armory.
Day 8: Jaipur. Join your chauffeur and guide at 10 am and proceed to a nearby village to experience rural culture. You will watch the farmers go about their daily activities, and get to observe how the vast majority of Indians contently live simple and hard working lives.
Afternoon - you are at leisure with your chauffeur and guide, who are available to you until 7 pm. An optional stop this afternoon allows the ladies to get Mehndi (Henna) designs applied to their hands and/or feet. There are various other experiences and activities that you can indulge in. Jaipur is India's shopping capital for tourists and this is a good time to shop for Rajasthani specialties if you are so inclined. Or you can choose to enjoy the facilities at your hotel.
Day 9: Jaipur - Udaipur. You are assisted with your check-out of your hotel in the morning and you join your chauffeur for the long drive to Udaipur. This drive will take about 7 hours of pure drive time and we recommend that you get a packed lunch from your hotel as the options along the way offer poor hygiene. Arrive at Udaipur in the late afternoon and you are assisted with your check-in to your hotel.
Udaipur is famous for its artists and paintings, including exquisite miniatures.
Day 10: Udaipur. Proceed for a city tour, including a tour of the fabled City Palace. At this Palace complex, explore the beautifully decorated rooms with thousands of exquisite, handcrafted mirrors that cover the walls, the ancient ivory doors that are a dark reminder of royalty's passion for hunting, the brightly colored glass windows, expansive inlaid marble balconies and the unique peacock courtyard. Enjoy a private tour of the amazing Crystal Gallery which houses the world's largest collection of priceless crystal. Marvel at pieces like the complete bedroom furniture set in crystal, discovered recently in a store room in the palace. There are amazing views to be had from this structure, especially of Lake Pichola, the Lake Palace hotel and Jag Mandir.
After your tour of the City Palace you will visit the historical Sahelion-ki-bari gardens and the local Museum.
Late afternoon/Early evening: Enjoy a cruise on Lake Pichola and visit the historical and beautiful monuments at Jag Mandir Island (if available – the royal family at Udaipur will occasionally rent out the island for large celebrations and on those occasions the island cannot be visited by tourists).
Day 11: Udaipur. You are at leisure on this day. A chauffeur driven vehicle as well as a guide can be arranged for half a day or the full day. Udaipur is one of North India's prettiest cities and there are areas that are great to explore on foot. There are other options that our staff can offer you.
Day 12: Udaipur - Mumbai. You are assisted with your check-out of your hotel and driven to the airport to board the flight to Mumbai. The pricing on this itinerary is based on this day being Friday or Saturday. On the other days of the week, there will be an extra charge for the second room at the Mumbai hotel. You are greeted at the Mumbai airport by an Easy Tours Facilitator & your personal chauffeur. You are driven to your ocean front hotel and assisted with your check-in. You are at leisure for the balance of the day to both relax and enjoy the hotels facilities, or to explore the colorful area around your hotel.
Day 13: Mumbai. Join your guide in the morning and proceed for a five to six hour excursion to the Elephanta Island Caves. Please note that no agency is able to select a local guide at Mumbai. The guides there are unionized and work on a rotation basis. Their quality is often nowhere near the quality of Easy Tours Guide's in other destinations. Depending on your arrival at the jetty, you will stop for photo opportunities at the city's signature landmark, The Gateway of India, either before you depart or when you return from this excursion. Located overlooking Mumbai's harbor this structure was built to commemorate the visit of King George V and Queen Mary to Mumbai. It is also the ceremonial gateway that the last British Viceroy departed from when India gained Independence. You are assisted in boarding the boat for the one hour journey. Elephanta is Mumbai's most significant tourist attraction and is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. There are five Hindu Caves dedicated to Lord Shiva and two Buddhist caves. Your tour will focus on the Hindu Caves. Carved out of hard basalt between 450 A.D. and 750 A.D., the main cave was an active place of worship till the Portuguese conquered the area and inflicted severe damage to the caves in the early 16th century. In its heyday the island was known as Gharapuri (the Fortress city) and there is still a village on the island with the same name. The island was renamed Elephanta by the Portuguese. Although the caves have many massive sculptures of Lord Shiva and other divinities, the most impressive creation at Elephanta is the Trimurthi sculpture. This 20 foot tall three headed figure portrays the three manifestations of Lord Shiva – The Creator of all life, The Preserver of humanity and The Destroyer of the world. You will be escorted back to your Hotel after your excursion to Elephanta.
Day 14: Mumbai - International Flight. You are assisted with your check-out at noon and proceed for a guided tour of Mumbai. Please note that no agency is able to select a local guide at Mumbai. The guides there are unionized and work on a rotation basis. Their quality is frequently very poor. The tour begins at the Prince of Wales Museum, built to commemorate King George V's first visit to India in 1905. Designed in the Indo-Saracenic style, the museum has sections of art, paintings, archeological exhibits and natural history. After the museum tour you will visit the famous 'Dhobi Ghat' & observe the age old tradition of the Dhobi's doing Mumbai's laundry!
There is a break for lunch.
Continue the tour with a drive up to Malabar Hill, where the hanging gardens give a panoramic view of the city and the "Queen's Necklace" (Marine Drive). The tour then takes a drive through the Flora Fountain and Fort area, where you can view the impressive Gothic and Victorian buildings that were constructed during the British 'Raj'. Visit the Victoria Terminus (now known as Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus). It is India's finest example of a Gothic architecture and one of the world's busiest railway stations.
Drive around Horniman Circle and visit the Town Hall, right besides the docks of Mumbai. Visit the city's signature landmark, "The Gateway of India", situated overlooking Mumbai's harbor. This structure was built to commemorate the visit of King George V and Queen Mary to Mumbai.
Your vehicle and chauffeur will stay with you until your assisted check in at the international terminal. This is a good time to do some last minute shopping and/or sightseeing if you are so inclined.
If your flight departs early the next morning you may want us to arrange a room for you so you can rest.
Our services end at Mumbai airport.
Inclusions - 14 Day Family North India
Children's Favorite Experiences:
* Charity Bird Hospital Tour
* Rickshaw Ride through ancient Chandni Chowk Bazaar
* Museum of Natural History
* National Rail Museum and Toy Train
* Folk music and dance greeting at Agra
* Personal Elephant ride up the ramparts of Amber Palace in Jaipur
* Rajasthani Cultural Show and Dinner
* Visit a farming village near Jaipur
* Sari and/or Turban tying lessons at Agra at a nominal charge
* Mehndi application for the ladies at Jaipur at a nominal charge
* Various optional activities at the hotels, some of which are at an extra charge
Other Inclusions:
* Daily breakfast at the hotels only for the adults
* One Roll Away Bed where there is one room or suite, subject to hotel availability
* All other meals as specified
* Applicable monument entrance fees as per the itinerary.
* All transfers and sightseeing by your personal Luxury Crossover
* Services of an Easy Tours Travel Facilitator or the best English speaking local guides at all
destinations as per the itinerary.
* Representative for assistance on all arrival and departure transfers.
* Delhi – Agra Train travel by Luxury AC Chair Car
* Bottled water during sightseeing/excursions and long drives.
* All currently applicable taxes.
Not included:
* Breakfast for the children
Oberoi Maidens – Deluxe Suite (1 Two Room Suite)
The Trident – Garden View (2 Rooms)
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Hightlights - 14 Day Family North India
This Visit gives you some of the best highlights of India.
ETI Experiences
|UNESCO World Heritage
Taj Mahal
Agra Fort
Fatehpur Sikri
Humayun's Tomb
Qutab Minar
Red Fort
Children's Experiences
Other Sights
|National Rail Museum and Toy Train
Folk music and dance greeting at Agra
Rajasthani Cultural Show and Dinner
Charity Bird Hospital Tour
Rickshaw Ride through ancient Chandni Chowk Bazaar
Visit a farming village near Jaipur
|India Gate
Jama Masjid
Safdarjang's Tomb
Connaught Place
City Palace
Hawa Mahal


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It's 1 a.m., a little more than two hours after Tom and the Heartbreakers walked off stage at the last show of the 2010 Mojo Summer Tour, and the floor of US Airways Center in Phoenix is clear.
Gone are the guitars and amps, sound system, lights and stage, packed away in trucks headed for California. Arena employees have finished clearing the seats and a lone janitor stands at the center of the floor with a broom in his hand, a pile of empty plastic cups at his feet.
For the final show on the 2010 Mojo tour, Tom and the boys went all out, bringing on the one and only Chuck Berry and his crack five-piece band to open the festivities in Phoenix. With his 84th birthday coming up later this month, Berry would have been excused if he�d kept his set brief, but the rock legend would have nothing of it, leading his group through an hourlong set of hits including "Around and Around," "Reelin' & Rockin'," "Maybellene" and "Johnny B. Goode" as many of the Heartbreakers gathered sidestage to watch.
Tom and the Heartbreakers took the stage just after 9 pm and promptly launched into a bouncy "Listen to Her Heart." "You Don't Know How It Feels" served as a nice opportunity to sing-a-long with Tom, but the real highlight of the show was an exquisite "Learning to Fly" with a beautiful bit of piano work from Benmont Tench.
"It took us a while to get here, but we did it! Thank you so much, Phoenix!" Tom said before Mike Campbell tore into the opening riff of "Runnin' Down A Dream." "American Girl" closed the show, a fitting end to this 46-date North American tour that spanned the entire country over the last four months.
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15 Charlotte Street, London, England, UK
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Think back, if you will, to the Bloomsbury set: Virginia and Leonard Woolf, Lytton Strachey, EM Forster, Roger Fry — they lived the perfect bohemian life with houses in the city and the country, lofty aesthetic goals, not so much money as to lose their social consciousness but more than enough to afford a gardener. Enter Charlotte Street, a 21st century reinvention of the perfect Bloomsbury London pad. This is not a design hotel, all blank white walls and chrome trim — rather, it's early twentieth-century England.
The Bloomsbury legend, by the way, has succeeded more as hotel venture than as art. While the fickle British press was mixed on the Tate exhibition, it raved about the Charlotte Street Hotel. After all Virginia's sister Vanessa Bell and her lover Duncan Grant, with their gorgeous Deco fireplaces and teacups, were arguably as much decorators and hosts as they were artists. This building, once a pharmacy, today sports interiors of which the Bloomsberries would have no doubt approved; these spaces are light, airy and full of wit, with curlicued wallpaper, four-poster beds and brightly colored vases. In the drawing rooms, paintings by Bell, Grant, and Roger Fry brighten the walls. There's even a movie house that seats 67 in lipstick red leather cushions amidst pinstriped walls.
The bathrooms are luxurious with walk-in showers and square tubs, and the beds, if not the widest, are easily the softest in the city — and the owners, Kit and Tim Kemp, are not shy about telling you how many times they have been test-driven overnight by the staff.
But you'll hear no such stories about the guests, as Charlotte Street is nothing if not discreet. No wonder, then, that this place is so popular among the trans-Atlantic smart set. But celebrity or not, you'll appreciate the genuinely English-Bohemian warmth, epitomized perfectly by the bar policy, which is one of honour. It's just how the Bloomsbury crowd, with their progressive ideals, would have run this place.
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Charlotte Street Hotel is approximately a 5-minute walk from the Tottenham Court Road tube station. If you're arriving from Heathrow Airport the most convenient transfer option to central London is the Heathrow Express train, which leaves Heathrow Airport every 15 minutes and takes 15 minutes to arrive at Paddington Station. One-way fares are available from £18, and round-trip fares from £32. By black cab, Charlotte Street Hotel is approximately a 45-minute ride from Heathrow Airport (depending on traffic) and can cost upwards of £50.
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- 15 Charlotte Street
- London, England, UK
- Neighborhood: Bloomsbury
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- 24 hour front desk
- Babysitting (on request)
- Bar
- Central air conditioning
- Library
- Luggage storage
- Restaurant
- Room service
- Spa treatments (on request)
- Wi-fi (charges apply)
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- Kay
- Stayed August 2008
- Rating: Excellent
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In an exciting and busy area of London it was such a pleasure to walk through the door to sheer comfort to relax. The bar/restaurant area was wonderful and great atmosphere
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Nothing to dislike about it at all.
- Nikki
- Stayed March 2008
- Rating: Excellent
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We loved everything about the Charlotte Street Hotel from the excellent service to the linen spray on our pillows!
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- Stayed April 2008
- Rating: Excellent
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Chairman Ginter called the regular meeting of the Transportation & Circulation Commission to order at 4:00 p.m.
Chairman Ginter made the following corrections to the minutes concerning overnight parking and the confusion of removing exemptions and adding restrictions:
Commissioner Hardwick made a motion to accept the Minutes as corrected. Commissioner French seconded, and the motion carried unanimously.
City Traffic Engineer Miller reported on a recommendation by staff to repeal and consolidate parking restrictions on the north side of Commonwealth Avenue between Highland Avenue and Short Street. Staff has received inquiries regarding the one-hour parking restriction in front of City Hall.
Staff conducted an onsite investigation and determined that the existing parking restrictions, green curb and white curb, were no longer applicable. There is a need for unlimited parking in the area and the operations at the City Library would not be impacted with the removal of the existing parking restrictions. Mr. Miller addressed the resolutions concerning the restrictions and recommended that the Commission approve and recommend to the City Council that Resolutions No. 2430, No. 3242, No. 3759, and No. 3787 be repealed allowing unrestricted parking on Commonwealth between Short Street and Highland.
There being no one present to address this issue, there was no Public Comment.
Commissioner French motioned to accept staff's recommendation. Commissioner Hardwick seconded, and the motion passed unanimously.
City Traffic Engineer Miller reported on the request from Mr. Albert Miranda, tenant at 303 West Wilshire Avenue, for consideration of additional stop controls on Highland Avenue at Wilshire Avenue. This intersection is currently controlled by stops signs on Wilshire Avenue only with no stopping on Highland Avenue between the signalized intersections at Commonwealth to the south and Chapman to the north.
Highland Avenue is a north/south collector street, having recent counts of 6,000 vehicles per day. The street is posted for 25 miles per hour, is 36 feet wide having one lane in each direction, and parking is allowed except at intersection corners where red curb exists for sight distance. The intersection is bordered by single-family homes and Korean Methodist Church on the southeast corner. On-street parking is permitted on both sides with the exception of the overnight parking restriction.
Wilshire is an east/west residential street, carrying approximately 1,700-1,800 vehicles per day, 1,000 westbound and 900 eastbound. This street is 40 feet wide and posted for 25 miles per hour and is bounded by single-family properties. Parking is permitted on both sides except for the overnight parking restriction. The north side of Wilshire east of Highland is exempt from this restriction.
Justification for a four-way stop is based on guidelines established in the California Traffic Manual. Two warrants are particularly considered: 5 or more accidents within a 12-month period and total volume of traffic entering the intersection from all directions.
Accident history for this intersection indicates that there have been five collisions at this intersection caused by motorists on Wilshire Avenue failing to yield the right of way to motorists on Highland Avenue. This warrant is met.
Regarding the volume of traffic, staff observed approximately 612 vehicles entering the intersection from all directions, but only 141 vehicles and pedestrians of that count entered the intersection from the minor approach during the same 8-hour period, consequently not satisfying this portion of the warrant.
Although the traffic volume guideline is not met, the minimum requirement is satisfied based on accidents susceptible to correction by a four-way stop control at this intersection. Staff's recommendation is that the request for additional stopping controls be approved and recommended to the City Council.
Commissioner Buck inquired as to the location of the traffic count. Mr. Miller stated the counts were taken on both sides of the approach (Wilshire), and the volumes indicate that the higher volume was the westbound direction by approximately 130 vehicles.
Commissioner Robeson asked about the parking restrictions on Highland. Mr. Miller advised there is a substantial amount of red curb on all approaches.
Commissioner Buck stated that there is possibly a stronger case for stopping controls at Amerige. Mr. Miller advised that Wilshire is mid-block between Commonwealth and Malvern, both signalized intersections. Signs indicating "cross traffic does not stop" are being considered for Amerige. Chairman Ginter inquired if the 85th percentile is a factor when considering stop controls. Mr. Miller further advised that stop signs are not for speed control, but primarily for assigning the right of way.
Commissioner Buck inquired about the traffic counts on Highland. Mr. Miller advised these counts are being tracked. In 2000, Highland north of Commonwealth was 4,000 and is currently at 6,000. Before the underpass project on Highland began, the traffic counts were at 6,600.
Chairman Ginter stated that generally when there are warranted analyses for different conditions, all the warrants had to be met for State approval, and inquired if it is different for four-way stops. Mr. Miller advised that both or one warrant could be met.
Chairman Ginter opened the public hearing.
Ms. McGraff, 242 West Wilshire, spoke on behalf of her parents, who own the property at 243, and the property owner at 245. She addressed the number of accidents at this intersection, all of which have not been recorded, as well as the pedestrian use on Wilshire. She indicated that the residents of the area, not necessarily property owners, would be happy to sign a petition for the stop signs if required.
Chairman Ginter closed the public comment segment.
Commissioner Hardwick made a motion to approve staff's recommendation. Commissioner Robeson seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.
City Traffic Engineer Miller addressed a request from Mr. Harold Sullivan, Principal of Laguna Road School, to consider a request for "No Stopping Anytime" at various locations on Laguna Road between Domingo Road and Bastanchury, and the implementation of a 20-minute loading/unloading zone (yellow curb) in front of Laguna Road School.
Staff met with Mr. Sullivan to discuss his concerns regarding the safety of students who cross mid-block on Laguna Road when parents park on the north side of the street to drop off or pick up their children. This has been an ongoing concern of the school administration, resulting in numerous attempts by Mr. Sullivan to discourage parents from parking in this area.
Mr. Miller then addressed previous attempts to alleviate the continuing safety concerns, which are being circumvented by dropping children off in the Ebell parking lot on the north side or in areas on the north where landscaping forces children to exit from the driver's side of a vehicle directly into the street. In either case, the result is the same: children are crossing mid-block jeopardizing their safety as well as causing congestion by vehicles having to stop to allow children to cross the road.
Staff is supportive of the requests from Mr. Sullivan to create a "No Stopping Anytime" area on the north side of Laguna Road from Coronado Drive to Domingo Road, and the installation of a safe loading/unloading zone on the south side of Laguna Road between the school's two driveways. In addition, staff is recommending that the existing "No Parking Anytime" on both sides of Laguna Road between Coronado Drive and Bastanchury Road be replaced with "No Stopping Anytime."
Mr. Miller then presented to the Commission a suggestion for modifications to the existing striping on Laguna Road. Removal of parking on Laguna Road would allow installation of a striped, eastbound, right-turn lane and westbound left-turn lane from Laguna Road into the school, as well as the addition of an eastbound left-turn lane onto Coronado Drive from Laguna Road, further improving circulation in the school vicinity. It is also recommended that the crosswalk at the equestrian crossing east of Morelia Avenue be relocated to the east leg of the intersection of Laguna Road and Morelia Avenue.
Commissioner Buck inquired as to the width of the lanes. Mr. Miller responded that there would be two 11-foot outside lanes, and a 9-foot wide two-way, left-turn pocket. Mr. Buck stated he rides his bike in that area, and 11 feet is not adequate for bicycles and cars.
Chairman Ginter asked for clarification for the twenty-minute loading/unloading area rather than No Parking; why change signs from No Parking to No Stopping; and the suggestion to chain off the Ebell Club's driveway. Mr. Miller explained that the location of the loading/unloading area is necessary for site distance when exiting and entering the school parking lot, visibility in the crosswalk, and would extend only from the westerly driveway to the existing red curb marking; No Parking implies that vehicles can stop, whereas No Stopping means no stopping or parking, and the Ebell Club Board of Directors was resistive to chaining the driveway.
At this time, Chairman Ginter opened the hearing for Public Comment.
Mr. Harold Sullivan, Principal of Laguna Road School, addressed the Commission by concurring with staffs' recommendations in an effort to make it easier for parents to enter and exit the school, and will make the school a better neighbor within the surrounding community. He also advised he has been in contact with the Ebell Club, which is amenable to No Parking on the north side, making it safer for their own ingress and egress during school hours, but was reluctant to restrict its parking lot with chaining. That issue has been referred to a committee.
Mr. Sullivan was appreciative of staffs' efforts to help alleviate the unsafe conditions in the school area. In response to a question from Chairman Ginter, Mr. Sullivan indicated that he intends to communicate in writing to the school parents the changes being considered and hopefully approved by the Commission and recommended to the City Council. It is his hope to pass this information along during the Christmas holiday.
Public Comment was closed.
Commissioner French stated her agreement. Commissioner Buck indicated his strong opposition to the 11-foot lanes, creating a dangerous situation. Chairman Ginter advised that he would bring this issue to the Bicycle Users Subcommittee so that it might lend support to Mr. Buck's objections. However, the striping issue is not before the Commission to recommend to the City Council.
Director Hodson confirmed Chairman Ginter's statement and advised that there is no requirement to take this issue to City Council. It is a safety issue and the location is not a designated bicycle route.
Public Comment was reopened as Mr. Sullivan wished to state there is hardly any bike traffic and the number of children riding bikes to school is few. The issue is safety and the recommendations will address this issue.
Public Comment was closed.
Commissioner Hardwick made a motion to accept staff's recommendation. Commissioner Cochran seconded the motion, at which time Chairman Ginter clarified the recommendations for installation of "No Stopping Anytime" on both sides of Laguna Road and yellow curbing, both as defined by staff. The motion was passed unanimously.
Commissioner Buck, at this time, requested that the City Council be advised of his opposition to the striping plan as proposed.
Traffic Engineer Miller advised that at the October 2, 2001, meeting, the City Council approved the project to relocate the traffic signal currently at Short Street on Commonwealth easterly to the driveway between the Senior Center and the Boys Club. Informal proposals will be sent out and an award should be made within 30 days. The project will be completed shortly after the new year since it is simply a relocation of the existing signal. Funding will be provided by Redevelopment.
Chairman Ginter stated that he had noticed that virtually all of the T&CC items being presented to the Council are on the 'Consent' calendar, but every time an overnight parking issue is brought to the Council, it is placed as a discussion item. Director Hodson explained that controversial issues are typically placed on the agenda for discussion. In this particular case, it is because there are other significant items needing discussion at this hearing. It is still the Council's prerogative to pull an item from the consent calendar.
Director Hodson advised that the overnight parking issue will be brought to the T&CC in December and staff is trying to monitor any requests regarding this issue.
Chairman Ginter noted that an item concerning promotion of bicycle use at the Transportation Center should be forthcoming from the Bicycle Users Subcommittee. Director Hodson commented that some good suggestions were received regarding this issue; however, there is no funding available to bring it forward. It possible will come to the T&CC at its February meeting.
Chairman Ginter also advised that he is scheduled for November parking hearings and Vice Chairman Frances is scheduled for December. No schedule has been received for 2002. This will come from the Police Department.
Director Hodson advised that the project to remodel the City Council and Administrative offices would begin in early December. It has been decided to have the equipment on hand rather than shut the Contractor down while waiting for the delivery.
Mr. Miller was asked about the court's decision regarding intersection cameras. He stated that the judges met in the west and central courts in Garden Grove. The Garden Grove system, which is different from Fullerton's recommended system, was approved. The north court judges met and would not make comment as to whether it is or is not a good system, keeping an open view on the cases brought before them. The police department has all the information needed to make sure there are no improprieties. The City of San Diego relinquished the system to the vendor, and the City had no knowledge of decisions being made by the vendor. The contract for installation of the cameras is underway. Director Hodson informed the Commissioners that the contract would be taken back to the Council because it is being restructured. There is also an issue of funding based on location of the test cameras.
Public comments will be allowed on matters not appearing on the agenda but within the Commission's jurisdiction.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:12 p.m.


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