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Multi-profit centers are not uncommon in the carwashing industry. However, between today's economy and irresolute sales projections, obtaining a loan to open up an additional profit center can be tricky.
Before even thinking about adding on any kind of extra business at your carwash or detail shop, it's important to find out everything you will need to know in order to find the proper lender, secure funding, and make sure you're not falling into a debt-ridden situation.
Do your homework
Your first step is to plan ahead and do your homework. You would be surprised at how many people apply for credit and have no idea about the total cost of the project; how long it will take to complete; or how much money they will expect to earn from their proposed venture. Be prepared to know everything about your project, not only for the lender, but for yourself as well.
Potential investors should take the time to speak with other operators that have made similar additions to their business. Ask about revenue and expense numbers, find out about any unexpected costs, potential pitfalls of the project, and the timeline it took to complete the project.
This would be a good topic to discuss at a tradeshow or on message boards so that you don't have to turn to your local competition for information or advice. It's also probably best that they don't know about your plans.
Current financial situation
Next, after investors have identified the project costs, you should assess your current financial position. Be sure to ask yourself the following questions:
1. Do we have sufficient cash reserves to support our existing business and personal needs?
2. Do we have additional funds set aside to cover the cash needs of the new venture during the ramp up period?
3. Do we have money to put down towards the project?
Also, you should be prepared to provide full financial disclosure to the lender. Gather your tax returns, bank statements and financial statements to give to the lender (see sidebar). Additionally, you will need to create a brief description of the proposed project, a summary of the project costs, copies of equipment and construction proposals, and income projections for the proposed project.
What lenders look for The primary items that your lender will consider are as follows:
- The existing and proposed business cash flow;
- The owners' business experience and time spent in business;
- The financial stability of the business;
- How much capital is available to inject towards the project;
- How much capital the business has in cash reserves;
- What the competition in the area is like;
- The personal and business credit history; and
- The overall viability of the project.
How today's economy plays a role
Business loans are available for qualified candidates in today's economy. However, the current economic climate is affecting business lending in a number of ways. Most lenders are now requiring full financial disclosure on virtually all projects. The days of underreporting income and being approved for a loan solely based on your FICO score are long gone. Business owners need to demonstrate the ability to repay the debt.
Wonderful opportunities exist in today's economy in the area of government-backed loans. Federal stimulus programs, longer loan terms and interest rates at historic lows are making government backed financing very attractive. Today, loans backed by the Small Business Administration (SBA) and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) the leading sources of business lending in the current economy.
Knowing when the time is right
Opportunities for additional profit centers can be found in just about any business climate. In most areas around the country, the cost to acquire land has significantly dropped and the cost of construction is also down. Operators looking to buy existing entities/profit centers find that they can be purchased for a fraction of what they sold for just a couple of years ago. For the right business operator, now can be the ideal time to invest in the future.
Applicants can control the amount of stress involved in the loan process. The most successful applicants are always prepared, cooperative, timely, and prompt. They will have a thorough knowledge of the project; they will send in all of the required information; and they will respond to all questions in a timely fashion.
In addition, it is important for you to target the right audience when applying for a loan. Many lenders are not lending to special purpose properties (such as carwashes or detail shops) or entertaining new construction projects at this time. Operators need to look for lenders that are currently active in the carwashing industry. Applying to financial institutions that are currently lending to carwash operators should make the loan process quite a bit easier.
Michael Ford is with Coast Commercial Credit, LLC, a company that specializes in carwash, franchise and small business loans. For more information on Coast Commercial Credit, visit www.coastcc.com/index.html.


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It is the call Scotland Yard Superintendent Duncan Kincaid never expected—and one he certainly doesn't want. Victoria, his ex-wife, who walked out without an explanation more than a decade ago, asks him to look into the suicide of local poet, Lydia Brooke—a case that's been officially closed for five years. The troubled young writer's death, Victoria claims, might well have been murder.
No one is more surprised than Kincaid himself when he agrees to investigate—not even his partner and lover, Sergeant Gemma James. But it's a second death that raises the stakes and plunges Kincaid and James into a labyrinth of dark lies and lethal secrets that stretches all the way back through the twentieth century—a death that most assuredly is murder, one that has altered Duncan Kincaid's world forever.
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WSU to begin design work for Everett university center
$10M set for Everett university center building's design
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Everett Community College Vice President of College Services Patrick Sisneros (center left) leads a group that includes Everett Mayor Ray Stephanson, Washington State University administrator Paul Pitre and state legislators Mike Sells, Hans Dunshee and Nick Harper, on a tour of the proposed site of a new WSU building near the EvCC campus at College Plaza on Broadway.
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EvCC President David Beyer and Everett Mayor Ray Stephanson walk past property on Broadway that WSU plans to purchase and using for parking for the proposed site of a new WSU building at the EvCC campus.
There's a barber shop and a nail salon, a store where most everything costs a dollar and a pay phone that works. And there's lot of empty storefronts.
Flip the calendar ahead three years and passersby could be gazing at the cornerstone of a Washington State University branch campus.
WSU secured $10 million in state funds this year to design a 95,000-square-foot building near the corner of North Broadway and Tower Street.
The site is envisioned as the future home of the University Center of North Puget Sound, a consortium of four-year colleges including WSU that now conduct classes across the street in Everett Community College's Gray Wolf Hall.
But by the time the building opens, WSU is expected to be running the consortium, having cemented its place in the city.
"It needs to be here because this is where the students want to go," said Rep. Hans Dunshee, D-Snohomish, after completing a tour last week of the plaza site with other lawmakers and representatives of the city and community college.
He brushed off a question on whether he hoped this structure would lead to a full-throttled branch campus.
"I won't call it a name or anything. That's just where you put the building," he said. When people drive by they'll know it's WSU and they'll get excited, he said.
All of this came together fairly quickly.
Everett Community College now manages the University Center whose members include Western Washington University, Central Washington University and the University of Washington's Bothell campus. A state law passed in 2011 calls for WSU to take over next summer.
As part of the deal, WSU prepared a long-term operating plan and it predicted the University Center would run out of space by the end of the decade as enrollment rises from 465 students a year ago to nearly 1,200.
Everett Community College owns College Plaza and uses it for parking. Conversations last year led to the proposal for the building in the plaza and to acquire three nearby properties for development of a parking lot. The targeted parcels include the Everett Trailer Court and the property with a Subway sandwich shop and a 7-Eleven store.
EvCC President David Beyer said the presence of the college and WSU on both sides of North Broadway will give the area a whole new feel -- and be a boost to the profile of both institutions.
"It will mean something for the community," he said. "That's been our whole thrust is to get ourselves out there so we are not looked at as that old campus in North Everett."
Dunshee, who is chairman of the House Capital Budget Committee, had to muscle the $10 million into the state's construction budget over the objections of his counterparts in the Senate Majority Coalition Caucus.
"We were fighting over it at 2:30 a.m. on the last day. That was about an hour before we finished up," he said. "It was 10 or zero."
Of the money, $7 million is for the design work and the rest is for land acquisition.
Paul Pitre, special assistant to WSU President Elson Floyd, said there's not a specific timeline for finishing either task. But conversations are under way at the university as officials keep in close contact with lawmakers, the community college and the city at each step.
Many issues lie ahead. For example Everett Mayor Ray Stephanson encouraged Pitre to make sure trailer court residents are given as much as two years to relocate.
Finding the funding to build will be an issue, too. The Legislature probably won't address the money issue until 2015.
Rep. Mike Sells, D-Everett, focused on the positive
"I'm encouraged that we're moving forward on this," he said. "It won't be the last building. Once you start down this road, you keep working on it,"
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The Old Republic is releasing a mini-expansion, Rise of the Hutt Cartel. It costs $10 for subscribers, and $20 for non-subscribers. It has 5 levels and a new planet.
Sadly, the class stories are not continued, with only two storylines, Empire and Republic being offered.
The real question, in my mind, is how will this mini-expansion interact with the current endgame. TOR has built up a fair chunk of PvE endgame by now, and I can't imagine that this small piece of content can totally replace that. At best, I expect one or two flashpoints, and one operation. That doesn't sound like enough.
Maybe the power curve will be very flat, allowing the current endgame, or at least the latest two operations to stay relevant.
Still, this will be an interesting experiment.
Thursday, January 10, 2013
The Old Republic Expansion
The Old Republic is releasing a mini-expansion, Rise of the Hutt Cartel. It costs $10 for subscribers, and $20 for non-subscribers. It has 5 levels and a new planet.
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- Coreus said...
I get a strong feeling that these guys are just under an enormous amount of pressure to produce something with less regard to whether they really should.
I love SWTOR and find it hard not to wonder what the game might look like today had the developer's expectations been more in line with reality, or vice versa.
- 9:05 PM, January 10, 2013
- Anonymous said...
i can not back it up now, but I read somewhere that the current operations and endgame flashpoints will be buffed up to match the 5-level-difference
So it's basically just a little addition story-wise and leveling wise, with a little more pve content. not too bad I think, since you don't lose what is already there.
- 3:55 AM, January 11, 2013
- RJ said...
Why wouldn't it replace all of the current end-game? It's not like WoW still keeps it's old end-game stuff relevant after a 5-level expansion. And so much of the daily stuff was bolted on afterwards over time, so I could see the same thing happening with this expansion: Maybe one L55 daily zone at launch, with a few more bolted on as they add new raids.
Anyway, a comment on the forums suggested that the current end-game loot would carry one through to the new end-game. And given how the game currently gives you almost a full set of Tionese gear just for hitting L50, I do imagine that any levelling loot given during this planet will probably end up with players reaching maybe a little higher then Columni. So yeah, it likely will be fairly flat in terms of advancement.
- 9:54 AM, January 11, 2013
- Rohan said...
The bigger issue, more than operations, are the flashpoints. A normal expansion usually has 5 or more flashpoints/dungeons. That gives enough variety, even if there is only one raid tier.
I don't really see this expansion having more than one or two flashpoints, and that's not enough to sustain an endgame.
- 10:01 AM, January 11, 2013
- RJ said...
Given the way TOR handles it's flashpoints, there's no reason for a new batch to be tied to the one new planet, to be fair.
- 11:02 AM, January 11, 2013
- Rohan said...
Right, but the new flashpoints still have to be created. I don't think they have enough time/resources/scope to deliver the 5 new flashpoints necessary for a new endgame.
Also, don't forget one of the original knocks against TOR was that there was nothing to do at endgame. There's a possibility that situation will repeat itself with this mini-expansion.
- 11:08 AM, January 11, 2013
- Sol said...
If they bump the endgame content up, that forces all non-subscribers to shell out cash to play FP/Raids (which they already need to buy access to). So it could be an exercise to try to boost the subscription rate.
- 6:05 PM, January 11, 2013
- Green Armadillo said...
LOTRO has had this problem for a number of years now due to smaller expansions that look a lot like Makeb. Part of the slack just does not get picked up (i.e. I'd argue that LOTRO is not a great game to be a group player when viewed in terms of content), but beyond that the game relies heavily on content that scales with level.
It's also worth noting that SWTOR has six low-to-mid level flashpoints that I have never set foot in because they are not available as max level hard modes. That is presumably an untapped (if finite) resource for precisely this sort of occasion.
- 5:00 PM, January 12, 2013
- Redbeard said...
From what I recall, they were going to have a planet's worth of addendum to the class stories --about five quests per class-- which translates into about 40 new class quests total.
- 9:50 PM, January 13, 2013


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A WBC differential typically includes the following: absolute neutrophil count or % neutrophils, absolute lymphocyte count or % lymphocytes, absolute monocyte count or % monocytes, absolute eosinophil count or % esosinophils, and absolute basophil count or % basophils.
At a Glance
Why Get Tested?
To help determine the cause of abnormal results on a WBC count; to help diagnose and/or monitor an illness affecting your immune system, such as an infection or inflammatory condition, or cancers that affect your white blood cells, such as leukemia
When to Get Tested?
As part of a complete blood count (CBC), when you have a routine health examination; when results of a CBC fall outside the reference range; when you have any number of signs and symptoms that may be related to a condition affecting white blood cells, such as infection, inflammation, or cancer; when you have a condition or are receiving treatment that is known to affect WBCs
Sample Required?
A blood sample drawn from a vein in your arm or by a fingerstick (children and adults) or heelstick (infants)
Test Preparation Needed?
The Test Sample
What is being tested?
White blood cells (WBCs), also called leukocytes, are cells that circulate in the blood and the lymphatic system that help protect the body against infections. They are an important part of the body's immune system and also have a role in inflammation, allergic responses, and protection against cancer. There are five types of white blood cells, each with different functions. A WBC differential totals the number of each of the different types of WBCs in a person's sample of blood. The differential reveals if the cells are present in normal proportion to one another, if the number of one cell type is increased or decreased, or if abnormal and/or immature cells are present. This information is helpful in diagnosing specific types of illnesses that affect the immune system and the bone marrow.
A differential may be performed in conjunction with a complete blood count (CBC), a test often used as a general health check, or it may be performed in follow-up to abnormal results on a CBC. Most often, a differential is performed on an automated blood analyzer, but also may be performed manually by a trained laboratorian who examines a blood smear under a microscope. The values are typically reported as absolute numbers of cells but may be expressed as the relative percentages of the total number of WBCs.
White blood cells develop from precursor cells produced in the bone marrow. The five different types of WBCs include:
- Granulocytes—these white blood cells have granules in their cytoplasm. The granules contain chemicals and other substances that are released as part of an immune response. The three types of granulocytes include:
- Neutrophils (neu) normally make up the largest number of circulating WBCs. They move into an area of damaged or infected tissue, where they engulf and destroy bacteria or sometimes fungi. Young neutrophils, recently released into circulation, are called bands.
- Eosinophils (eos) respond to infections caused by parasites and play a role in allergic reactions (hypersensitivities)
- Basophils (baso) usually make up the fewest number of circulating WBCs and are thought to be involved in allergic reactions
- Lymphocytes (lymphs) exist in both the blood and the lymphatic system. They are divided into three types, but the differential does not distinguish among them. All lymphocytes differentiate from common lymphoid stem cells in the bone marrow. The differential counts and reports all lymphocytes together. Separate specialized testing must be done to differentiate the three types:
- B lymphocytes (B cells) are antibody-producing cells that are essential for acquired, antigen-specific immune responses. Fully mature B-cells are called plasma cells that produce antibodies, immune proteins that target and destroy bacteria, viruses and other "non-self" foreign antigens.
- T lymphocytes (T cells) finish maturing in the thymus and consist of a few different types. Some T cells help the body distinguish between "self" and "non-self" antigens. Others initiate and control the extent of an immune response, boosting it as needed and then slowing it as the condition resolves. Other types of T cells directly attack and neutralize virus-infected or cancerous cells.
- Natural killer cells (NK cells) directly attack and kill abnormal cells such as cancer cells or those infected with a virus.
- Monocytes (mono), similar to neutrophils, move to an area of infection and engulf and destroy bacteria. They are associated more often with chronic rather than acute infections. They are also involved in tissue repair and other functions involving the immune system.
When there is an infection or an inflammatory process somewhere in the body, the bone marrow produces more WBCs, releasing them into the blood. Depending on the cause of infection or inflammation, one particular type of WBC may be increased as opposed to other types. As the condition resolves, the production of that type of WBC subsides and the number drops to normal levels again.
In addition to infections and inflammation, there are a variety of conditions that can affect the production of WBCs by the bone marrow or their survival in the blood, resulting in either increased or decreased numbers. The differential, along with the other components of the CBC, alerts the doctor to possible health issues. Results are often interpreted in conjunction with additional tests such as a blood smear review, which can reveal the presence of abnormal and/or immature populations of WBCs.
In a few serious diseases, some immature forms of the cells are released from the bone marrow into the circulation and may be detected by the WBC differential. This may occur with bacterial infection, leukemia, myelodysplastic disorders, or myeloproliferative neoplasms, for example. Some immature cells that may be detected include metamyelocytes, myelocytes, promyelocytes, and/or blasts.
If results indicate a problem, a wide variety of other tests may be performed in order to help determine the cause. A doctor will typically consider an individual's signs and symptoms, medical history, and results of a physical examination to decide what other tests may be necessary. For example, as needed, a bone marrow biopsy will be performed to evaluate the bone marrow status.
How is the sample collected for testing?
A blood sample is drawn from a vein in the arm or from a fingerstick (for children and adults) or heelstick (for infants).
NOTE: If undergoing medical tests makes you or someone you care for anxious, embarrassed, or even difficult to manage, you might consider reading one or more of the following articles: Coping with Test Pain, Discomfort, and Anxiety, Tips on Blood Testing, Tips to Help Children through Their Medical Tests, and Tips to Help the Elderly through Their Medical Tests.
Another article, Follow That Sample, provides a glimpse at the collection and processing of a blood sample and throat culture.
Is any test preparation needed to ensure the quality of the sample?
No test preparation is needed.
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Woman's body found near Evergreen Cemetery
The body was found about 8 a.m. in the 4300 block of Colby Avenue, said Everett police officer Aaron Snell. That's near Evergreen Cemetery and the Interurban Trail.
Detectives were in the early phase of their investigation, but there were no immediate signs of foul play, Snell said.
The woman's body was taken to the Snohomish County Medical Examiner's Office to confirm her identity and determine how she died.
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The Gastonia Grizzlies' 7-13 record tied for the third-worst 20-game start in the team's 12-year history.
The best 20-game start in franchise history was 13-7 in 2010. The worst was 6-14 in 2007. Only twice has Gastonia had a winning record through 20 games.
Gastonia had lost seven of eight entering Saturday's home game against Forest City. During that stretch, the Grizzlies were outscored 60-21 and committed 22 errors.
In Friday's 11-1 loss at Forest City, Gastonia was out-hit 17-6, committed four errors and surrendered the 11 runs in the first four innings. Newcomer Kane Barrow had two hits for the Grizzlies and drove in the only run. The Grizzlies couldn't take advantage of six Forest City errors.
Salute the troops
The Grizzlies wore camouflage tops for Salute the Troops night Saturday. The front of the jerseys read "Salute the Troops" rather than the team name.
The first pitch was thrown by David Brown, who suffered a brain injury while serving with the U.S. Marines in Iraq. Purple Heart Homes renovated a house in Gastonia for Brown and his family.
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North Carolina outfielder Zach Daly expects to begin playing for the Grizzlies Monday or Tuesday. The former Forestview High School standout's arrival to Sims Legion Park was delayed by the Tar Heels' advancement to the College World Series.
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Would you agree with the following statement:
"People who want their frags to smell nice lean towards designer scents; people who want their frags to smell interesting lean towards niche".
No I do not agree with that.
No. But perhaps people who think a lot about smelling nice or interesting (as opposed to those who spend a few minutes in Boots picking out a new fragrance) are more likely to discover niche.
To a degree, yes (sort of).
But that's based on the fact that the question's premise is highly subjective.
Last edited by Partario; 24th January 2013 at 07:21 PM.
many people on basenotes will find your statement politically incorrect or even offensive.
but i find it overall correct. with some exceptions, but overall true.
Yes, in my humble opinion. But as Noirdrakkar has already pointed out, there are exceptions.
No, absolutely not.
This is "painting a with a broad brush" that diminishes the virtues of 100's of classics that have defined what scent is today, and smell just as interesting today as they did the day they came out. And, I am not knocking niche at all. From a Zen perspective, everything is unique unto itself.
I will refer to the metaphor foreshadowed above - all the creations of scent are but dots on a canvas, that make up the incredible world of fragrance (all the shades from light to dark in the spectrum). It is similar to 'Pointillism' and the beautiful & famous painting, A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte by the brilliant artist, Georges Seurat. It was "created" over two entire years, debuting in 1884. He would go back and perfect the work time and time again.
This is the "world of scent" to me - revisiting each bottle (symbolized by a "dot") until we truly understand and deeply connect with a scent...and build associations to it ourselves. We have to remember that each dot is a 'bottle' of unique composition that completes the painting.
I could add more...but will leave my thought at that. Perhaps someone else would like to comment and add their perspective to this.
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Well, by definintion, niche is a targeted to a small sub-set of users, so there is some truth to that... "interesting" may not sell well at the department store counters if it smells like feet or feces. Where people who are a little "unique" in their tastes can find a fragrance in the niche market to fit any desire (for the most part).Most "mainstream" people want a fragrance to smell nice (clean, etc), and will find that normally in the "designer" realm. But since some non-designer houses also make the generally-accepted type fragrances, your statement is not 100% accurate. But not stereotype or generalization is.
I want my fragrances to smell a bit different but I still have to like them. Whether they be niche or designer is neither here nor there so, whilst I understand where you are coming from, I have to disagree with what you say. I do appreciate that most 'unusual' scents will be, or are more likely to be, niche however.
It is the individual fragrances and not the category that matters
No. I believe it's an individual's preference. Good question though.
I would probably lean more towards agreeing with the second part of the sentence over the first part but I disagree with both.
I agree overall. Designer scents are aimed to please the general consumer while niche houses take more risks in creating something unique.
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2. Diptyque Philosykos
3. Burberry London
4. Hermessence Ambre Narguilé
5. Creed Green Irish Tweed
People buy what they enjoy. I think Light Blue is bland and you may agree, but it's a huge seller. The people who buy it probably like it and find it interesting. People buy what they enjoy. It really is that simple.
Niche houses exist because not everyone's tastes are satisfied entirely by mainstream scents.
Anybody have a sample of Martin Margiela Untitled or Untitled L'Eau? I'm dying to smell these and I've got lots of great niche samples to swap!
"Follow your nose. It always knows." -- Toucan Sam
Smelling nice and interesting often go hand in hand, I'd say. Some of the most disliked stinkers are designer (Kouros, A*Men, plenty of "old man's" scents, I'd assume, too).
Though the word "interesting" in itself is quite subjective.
Last edited by Partario; 25th January 2013 at 07:06 AM.
The statement does beg for definitions, such as what is meant by "nice", "interesting", "niche".
I think everything I wear is nice, even the ones that aren't especially accessible. There are fragrances I consider nice like Chanel 22, or interesting like Odeur 53 that I never wear.
There is an implication in some of the answers that niche perfumers are trying to be offbeat and wanting to have their market be small, but that's hard for me to believe. I think every perfumer wants to make great, nice, interesting perfume and would love it to be the most popular perfume in the world. That's quite an aspiration in a very competitive marketplace with much of the distribution stacked toward designers. By the same token, even the perfumers who create for the big houses are probably trying to make original compositions that will stand out from the crowd, in a good way, so as to maximize sales while at the same time being interesting. Niche perfumers may have some more leeway to experiment more because their margins are lower, but I still think everyone wants to have a positive return on investment.
Me personally, I order Niche samples every week just because of the art and unique experience within it. I wear niche mainly for myself to enjoy this form of art. However, when i go out, around people, etc.. i normally wear designers. Obviously most designers are more wearable than niche. But, i still wear niche because it also smells good (most at least), not just because its interesting. This is how i would rephrase the statement:
"People who want their frags to smell nice while being easily wearable lean towards designer scents. People who want their frags to smell interesting and nice lean towards niche."
No matter what the case may be , everyone wants their frags to smell NICE!
I started to believe that more often than not so called niche is just an inflated balloon with some exceptions ( say Lutens which actually is Shiseido) I 've found more masterpieces in the designers' scents area, IMO
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Yes, overall I DO agree. it's not factual, but it does loosely describe my opinion.
Let's cut to the chase; I started out with designer scents but I'm leaning toward the niche market because I know that most "Joe Blow's" aren't going to pay premium dollar not to smell like everybody else in my quest for the "holy grail" (which I'm quite sure I will never find).
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I don't agree at all, Nice and Interesting shouldn't be mutally exclusive.
The idealogy of something smelling 'nice' is down to the perception of the person smelling it. The vast majority of designer scents may not be interesting to people with years of experience as they will either be made to a budget and the general quality isn't there or as an offshoot of them being created to chart well the notes will be familiar. There are lots of exceptions and many excellent designer scents.
If none of my niche scents smelled 'nice' I wouldn't even bother wearing them. I think the biggest problem with generalisations is the divide from the people who try a little too hard to wear a designer and dismiss niche like some kind of badge of honour vs the people who don't even bother with designer scents.
The answer to your question for me is a big No. Interesting doesn't have to be challenging and Nice doesn't have to be safe.
Last edited by Kron; 25th January 2013 at 11:17 AM.
In a word, "no".
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1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
3) Dia Man vintage edt (Amouage)
4) Anat Fritz Original Formula and Classical (Anat Fritz) - tie
4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie
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7) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
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As a broad idea that is not even trying to capture all the cases, I'd say yes. But asking a question like this only leads to hundred people coming here and telling you that it's all subjective and that there are exceptions. Of course, this is trivially true. But that kind of statement can still make sense to a certain degree.
I will admit I do try to buy niche when I can for the "rare" factor, but I want to smell good no matter designer or niche. Yes niche does in my opinon, push the envelope when it comes to more exotic smells, but there is really no limits when it comes to what niche houses use in the development of a fragrance.
Ha ha ha. No. Not even a little tiny bit. I think that's along the lines of dismissing any art that doesn't have a recognisable figurative subject in a popular style as "not attractive", and saying that people who buy Thomas Kinkade or Robert Bateman want art that looks "nice" and people who buy Julie Mehretu want art that looks "interesting".
The most significant thing about actual niche perfumers, to me, is not expense or exclusivity, but the fact that they are not so confined by the demands of shareholders and marketplace, and thereby restricted to what is popular, or what does well in focus groups, or what is defined as the "global fragrance trend of the year" by (coincidentally!) the companies that make the artificial esters used in fragrance. A genuinely niche company or independent perfumer has the liberty to follow her or his own instincts and tastes, and to play with combinations that may not be sanctioned by tradition or fashion. And sure, sometimes that may end in a place that is more interesting than pleasant -- but just as with modern or experimental art, a lot of it will be beautiful as well, if perhaps in an unexpected way or a way that hasn't been done before.
And then that will be appropriated by the popular market, just as modern art was and is -- to the point that you can see abstract "art" prints on the wall of your local McDonalds.
(My opinion, of course, may be highly influenced by the fact that I don't, actually, find most popular fragrances smell nice or even pleasant to me -- indeed, I find the vast majority of them unbearable.)
(Moreover, I think a lot of people who buy name-brand fragrances aren't even buying them because THEY think they smell nice. They buy them because of the name, or because all their friends have bought them, or because the beauty blogs they read flog them hard and they want to stay on trend, and they don't particularly think about the actual scent as long as they don't find it actively offensive. I used to do this in high school myself, trying to fit in; the trouble was that I would then find the fragrance offensive when it was in close proximity to my person.)
There are definitely those who bash the popular "scent for the masses" only b/c "average people" like them...see the Paco Rabinne 1 Million thread for examples. AND those who follow the masses and praise whatever is popular. There are also those who Praise any piss that a popular Niche house may put out. BUT for the most part, people like/dislike based on their honest preferences. I lose respect for those who say they wouldn't wear a fragrance b/c a teenager also happens to like it. OR who praise the worst smelling most boring Creed/Tom Ford, etc. as "Wonderful!"
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There are too many personal tastes, preferences etc., as well as too diversified fragrance houses, both niche and designer, to agree with this particular statement.
Possum-Pie, that's the worst reason for not respecting people I've heard in a long time - perhaps ever. Why should everybody think like you and just wear what they thinks smell good?
We just happen to live in a social world and wearing a certain fragrance is a statement of sorts. Wearing Le Male is not a statement I want to make. Just like I wouldn't wear Ed Hardy clothes. Realizing that our decisions are not simply about "liking" something, but they carry other meanings, only help us understand ourselves better.
Last edited by Johnny_Ludlow; 25th January 2013 at 02:33 PM.
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I have more than hundred fragrances available, most of which are very unusual. I wear little amounts, to my personal enjoyment. I wouldn't say I try to please people around me.
I just don't see myself as Le Male wearing person. I also might be kind of elitist: I don't want people to smell that on me. Not the connotation I want. I also wouldn't wear Chanel No. 5 for the same reason. It's not the statement I want to make. Maybe all this makes me phony.
I'm just trying to understand my own motives behind my choices and I believe they are not just about what I like.
I disagree. I'm on a fixed income and can't afford FB of some "niche" frags. Thank God there's that's why splits an samples were created . I find that "interesting" doesn't mean I don't care for the scent. Sample,sample, and then sample again.
Last edited by silverbullet; 25th January 2013 at 07:40 PM. Reason: Over medicated!
In general, I agree but there are exceptions but I agree.
I disagree. Im on a fixed income and cant afford some FB niche scents Ive tried through samples and decants. Thats why God created samples and decants. Interesting to me can be either I like it or dont. Sample,sample, and then sample some more. Then again I just had my psyche meds adjusted yesterday.
Depends upon the assumptions made behind the terms used...
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Last edited by NeonGrey; 25th January 2013 at 08:03 PM. Reason: repost
"When the milk,
tasted like perfume,
you had been drinking from the carton,
and I knew."
People who want to be interesting for the sake of being interesting, put less value on aesthetics than they do on how others perceive them. On the other hand, those who appreciate beauty wherever they find it, even in the unlikeliest of places, will be able to find nice things where others don't bother to look.
"When the milk,
tasted like perfume,
you had been drinking from the carton,
and I knew."
sorry repost
Last edited by NeonGrey; 25th January 2013 at 08:13 PM.
"When the milk,
tasted like perfume,
you had been drinking from the carton,
and I knew."
No. Absolutely not.
O yea
I disagree. I think people who are curious and open-minded smell anything from niche to designer to vintage...
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How about this: People who want their frags to be expensive lean toward niche.
There are plenty of interesting designer frags, though everyone's nose/tastes are different
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a.......... smell nice to whom? and
b.......... smell interesting to whom?
If it were to smell nice to one's self and to others vs smell interesting to one's self, but of zilch interest to others, then I'd agree with the statement generally.
No matter what side of this 'arguement' is taken, a most provocative question. I have to admit I have no idea as to why (most) people lean toward the frags they do other than they like them personally or follow the crowd.
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The love of fragrances for some seems to end up to becoming a race to whomever smells the most exclusively like nobody else in their vicinity. And in some cases, just add snobbery and scoffery.
The OP statement is overall something I'd agree with. Most people adopt fragrances to "smell good". And since those are very broad terms, the criteria is pretty broad. But niche, narrows the playing field. This would be almost analogous to people that own cars to people that own cars (designer fragrances) and actually buy super sports cars (niche fragrances). And the people that go deeper into the art of perfumery and scents, well they might go the way of the bicycle, unicycle, or penny-farthing. In a way, it's all connected, it's all a form of transportation in my analogy, but the manner they get you to wherever you wish to go, but the routes are all different.
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While not even Carroll Shelby himself expected the GT350 to succeed as wildly as it did, with hindsight it really shouldn't be a surprise. Take the fastest-selling car in history and make it better in ever measurable way. And part of that success was the Mustang's accessibility to everyone—you didn't need to be a professional driver to get the most out of it. Quick to capitalize on that brilliance, the Hertz "rent-a-racer" GT350H was born. Every inch a Shelby, and now with a no-skills-required automatic transmission, the GT350H changed the way we looked at rental cars forever. It was a car any guy could rent on Saturday, take to the track and win a trophy, and return on Monday. Heck, there are even stories of the cars coming back to Hertz with evidence of welded-in roll cages being hastily removed. It was truly a great time to be a car guy.
This particular 1966 Shelby GT350H is quite likely the finest in the world. Where many of these cars lost their high performance parts after a rental weekend or at Ford Motor Company where they were returned before being sold to the public, this one carries all the correct Shelby components, modifications, and special features, and has been given a painstakingly accurate restoration to the absolute highest standards. It appears from its listing in the Shelby Registry that it was owned by the same individual after being decommissioned by Hertz, until 2006. With these cars now changing hands for prices on-par with conventional GT350s due to their history and rarity, it's an ideal investment for the Shelby collector with an open slot in his garage. There are none nicer than this.
Hertz specifically ordered the final run of 800 GT350H models in Raven Black with LeMans Gold stripes so they would stand apart and be instantly recognizable on the track and on the street. It definitely worked, and the cars showed up in photographs, enthusiast magazines, and press clippings across the country, doing their thing and bringing home the big trophies. This car was stripped to a bare shell where it was fully restored on a rotisserie practically at the molecular level. It's a sure bet that no Shelby ever looked this spectacular when it rolled out of their Los Angeles production facility, but that's beside the point. The bodywork is shockingly good, and on a black car, that's doubly critical, so great pains were taken to ensure that every panel was blocked until it was nearly flawless. Panel gaps are exceptional, and even the fiberglass Shelby hood fits better than new ones ever did. The Hertz cars got all the other upgrades the standard Shelbys did, too, including the plexiglass quarter windows, fiberglass scoops feeding the rear brakes, and, of course, the stripe package. Everything on this car has been accurately reproduced or restored to new condition, and it is ready to compete at the very highest levels.
With Fords, there's no way to say whether a car is actually "matching numbers" but this car's known history from new is the strongest evidence that it has never been apart or wrecked. Contrary to popular belief, Hertz kept detailed records of the cars' condition while they were active rentals and if the engine were removed or damaged, there would surely be a record. So when the car was restored, the 289 under the hood was completely rebuilt to 306 horsepower Shelby specifications and all the correct Shelby components were reinstalled after being restored to new condition. The engine wears correct Ford Blue paint, along with a proper Shelby-spec high-rise intake and Holley 4-barrel carburetor. Tri-Y exhaust headers were state-of-the-art at the time and remain in place as well. Correct Shelby valve covers and a chrome air cleaner are framed by Shelby-installed Monte Carlo bars that strengthened the shock towers and improved steering response. Like regular Shelbys, the rental racers didn't offer power steering or power brakes (although some later models were retrofitted with power brakes in response to customer complaints), but things like the alternator and water pump have been restored. Proper reproduction hoses, clamps, and a new wiring harness were installed at the same time, and there's a new Autolite battery up front. Experts will also note that the original Shelby American fender tag is still in place, and that this car is not a rebody.
Underneath, you'll find the standard Hertz-issue C4 3-speed automatic transmission with suitable upgrades to handle the high-winding 289's horsepower, as well as a Shelby-spec 9-inch rear out back. Restoration photos show the entire body shell painted in correct red oxide primer, and the floors remain in primer as original, with just the right amount of black overspray, just like the factory did it. A deep sump Cobra aluminum oil pan controls windage on a road course, while a reproduction Rotunda oil filter keeps it clean. All the original markings, including those done at the Shelby American facility, have been accurately reproduced, right down to the balancing stripes on the driveshaft. The disc brakes have been rebuilt, and the dual exhaust system features correct style mufflers that give this rare Mustang just the right sound. Shelby also modified the rear suspension with a set of traction bars on the leaf springs, which also involved modifications to the floors, all of which have been faithfully retained and restored on this car. 14-inch Magnum 500 wheels wear Hertz-specification Goodyear Blue Streak tires and specific "Hertz Sports Car Club" center caps that are only found on the rent-a-racers.
Inside, the Hertz cars were a little more civilized than their Shelby brothers, but by 1966, Shelby was already polishing the GT350's rough edges anyway. The interior of this car has been fully restored to stock specifications, and the only notable differences from a stock GT350 are those related to the automatic transmission: a wider brake pedal and, of course, the automatic shifter mounted on the transmission tunnel, sans console. But like the exterior, all the standard Shelby goodies were included, such as the lovely wood-rimmed steering wheel and a comprehensive set of gauges, including a cool dash-mounted tachometer up high and in the driver's line of sight. In this car's case, the entire interior is new, including seat covers and foam, door panels, carpets, and headliner, and all the gauge have been fully rebuilt. Racing lap belts have been added, and reproductions of all the original delivery tags are in place, including the visor tag describing how to start the car. The trunk is also finished with a reproduction floor mat and a matching Magnum 500 spare assembly, as new.
Documentation includes a reproduction owner's manual, original sales invoice that shows the original dealership as Larsen Ford in White Plains, New York, and receipts from Shelby American. There are also dozens of restoration photos showing this car's transformation into the stunning show-winning machine that it is today.
There was a time when nobody wanted these former rental cars, but that day is long gone. Today, the GT350H has taken its place among the most sought-after Shelbys of all time, and with only 1001 being built, they're considerably more rare than the standard GT350. With longtime ownership of a single curator, a concours-caliber restoration, and incredible performance, anyone looking for a Hertz Shelby will find none better than this.
- Year
- 1966
- Make
- Shelby
- Secondary Make
- n/a
- Model Name
- Secondary Model
- n/a
- Vehicle Type
- Passenger Car
- Hobby Segment
- Muscle Car
- Mileage
- 6870
Engine / Transmission
- Engine Type
- Gasoline
- Engine Size
- Engine Number
- n/a
- Heads
- n/a
- Fuel Specification
- n/a
- Fuel Delivery System Type
- Single 4 Barrel
- Transmission Type
- 3 Speed Automatic
- Transmission Spec
- Transmission Number
- n/a
- Entertainment System Type
- AM Radio
- Battery Location
- RH Engine Compartment
- Battery Shut Off
- None
- Battery Charger
- None
- Power Steering
- No
- Air Conditioning
- No
- Interior Color
- Black
- Seating Type
- Bucket
- Seat Material
- Vinyl
- Shifter Type
- Floor
- Center Console
- No
- Body Style
- Coupe
- Doors
- 2
- Safe Body Color
- Black
- Paint Type
- n/a
- Stripes
- Yes
- Front Suspension Type
- Double A-arm
- Rear Suspension Type
- Leaf Spring
- Axle Specification
- Ford 9"
- Front Wheel Specification
- 14x6" Magnum 500
- Rear Wheel Specification
- 14x6" Magnum 500
- Front Tire Specification
- n/a
- Rear Tire Specification
- n/a
- Front Brakes Specification
- Disc
- Rear Brakes Specification
- Drum
- Spare
- n/a
- Exhaust Type
- Dual Exhaust
- Muffler Type
- Turbo Muffler
- Restoration Status
- Restored
- Mileage Since Restoration
- n/a
- Awards Summary
- n/a
- Historical Documents Summary
- Copy of Shelby Vehicle Invoice (no originals) - Listed in Shelby Registry - Restoration photos, reproduction owner's manual, High perfomance booklet, GT350 owner's manual
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