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|Dec 26, 2012, 05:26 AM
iPhoto - Creating 'Events' within 'Events'?
When I merge Events all the photos from each Event are displayed. But I would like to be able to open an Event, and then see further Event folders within it.
For example, say I created an Event called Holidays, could I then create sub-Events within called Spain, France Italy etc?
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|Dec 26, 2012, 05:56 AM
Yes you can using Folders - from the File menu choose New Folder. It will probably place it in Albums towards the bottom. Make sure the Events folders are visible in the left sidebar by clicking show that appears by the side of Events when you mouse over it. You can then drag the folder that you created into Events in the sidebar. Tap the folder and tap again to rename the folder to a name that you want. Then drag the Event you want to see under the Folder. You are able to nest Folders if you want.
If you want to use this type of functionality it might be worth looking at Aperture, which makes this easier to do, and you can import photos directly into the folder that you want.
|Dec 26, 2012, 07:20 AM
Excellent, thanks very much James
The problem I now have is that my Events arent shown in the left column, as you can see below. Is there a way of making them visible please?
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|Dec 26, 2012, 07:48 AM
Steve, My apologies I think it is because I use Aperture, and have a shared Library for iPhoto and Aperture. This is maybe why I see Events as a list of folders in the left panel, and you don't.
However you can still do what you want in Albums. Create the Folder as before, and rename it under Albums, say Holidays. Then from the Events window in the top drag the event you want into Albums, It will create a default folder called Untitled Folder with an icon representing the Event underneath. Drag the event icon to the folder that you created and release the mouse button. Select unwanted Untitled folder and press the delete key to remove it. Rinse and repeat for the other Events. See Screenshot below.
Last edited by James Craner; Dec 26, 2012 at 07:55 AM.
|Dec 26, 2012, 08:22 AM
Many thanks James , that certainly does the job. Ive done as you say and it works
I initially expected that when in Event view I could just drag one Event into another, then when opening the event it would show not only the photos of the main Event, but also a thumbnail of the secondary event that I'd just dragged into it. But it appears not. But the way you have explained certainly works and I can now get on with reorganising my events
By the way, I assume that the link at the bottom of your posts is your website? It contains some extremely useful info for a newbie like me, many thanks.
Would you recommend the Aperture app? It looks great but the latest version is getting some pretty poor reviews on the app store for it not working. I see myself spending a lot of time in iPhoto as photography is kind of a hobby of mine, and I have an iTunes voucher thats crying out to be used
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|Dec 26, 2012, 08:29 AM
Steve, glad I could help. Yes the website in my Sig is mine, glad you find it useful. I would recommend Aperture, I have used it for many years, and as an upgrade to iPhoto it is an excellent choice. You can even share the same Library now between iPhoto and Aperture.
|Dec 26, 2012, 08:42 AM
Great, thanks for your help James, much appreciated
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|Dec 26, 2012, 12:38 PM
Forget about organizing your Events. Events are supposed to be about combining a single photo session into one place, imo. So other than merging and splitting them in those cases where iPhoto gets the session wrong, my advice is to mostly ignore Events.
Instead, create Albums to correspond to how you want to arrange your Events. Albums are designed to be nested into folders, and those folders can be nested.... so no extra steps. The other advantage is that a photo can appear in only one Event, but it can appear in as many Albums as you want. So you can have a photo in the Album for Spain, plus it can appear in the Album called Trains. You can pop a Smart Album next to an Album if you often only need a filtered view - for example the Album might be "Bermuda" but the Smart Album would only show the top rated images.
To my mind, the power of Events - if you have let iPhoto manage them itself - is to find the photos that you took at about the same time as one you are looking at in an Album. For example. An Event will be all the photos you took in one day, when you just happened to be vacationing in Bermuda, several years ago. However, one of those photos has subsequently been turned into a phenomenal BW image. You've cropped it into a banner for your website, and that version is currently sitting in an Album where you've tucked all of your website banner images.
Now you notice that there is a cool beach chair in the image.... do you have more images of that beach chair? If you have left the default Events grouping, you can simply choose to "Show Event" and you will see all the photos you took that day. You don't need to remember where or when it was taken, you are simply looking for images that were taken at about the same time.
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|Dec 26, 2012, 02:09 PM
snberk103, thanks. So leave the Events alone and concentrate on creating Albums. Thats a very interesting point of view. I shall have to give some thought on how I want my photos arranged.
Coming from a Microsoft Windows laptop im used to creating various folders for my photos, each containing further folders such as..
Folder - Holidays
containing subfolders titled...
Then each of these subfolders containing further subfolders such as..
But I appreciate that iPhoto is a different piece of software and perhaps I should open my mind to alternative filing systems. I shall spend my evening scratching my chin whilst pondering over this one, whilst the wife watches her rubbish tv programmes!!
Thanks for your suggestion
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|Dec 26, 2012, 03:20 PM
What a DAM, like iPhoto, does is create a database entry for each image. It doesn't really care, technically, where the actual image actually gets filed. However, because it is easy to corrupt the database if you muck about with the images outside of the DAM Apple has chosen to "hide" the photos inside a Library. All the images are there, inside the iPhoto Library, by default. Lightroom would prefer you allow it to move the images into it's default folder structure, but it doesn't really care. And Aperture is sort of in between.
This folder structure is on the HDD (hard-drive) itself. You should basically ignore it if you are going to use a DAM as it is supposed to be used. This is not the same Folder structure you see when you are using iPhoto ... more later...
When you import a photo the DAM it creates a record in it's database. It will also move or copy (or not) the image into it's HDD folder structure depending on your settings. It's the database entry that is critical. From this point on, whenever you do anything to the image in the application those changes are recorded in the database. Not just which Album, and what keywords you tag the image with, but also your edits. The original image is never altered ... it just sits there. The "change" are merely recorded in the database record. These edits are only applied to the new image that is created when you Export the image. This is called 'non-destructive' editing. It is why you can always go back to the original image.
If you muck about with the images outside of the DAM the database record is corrupted. If all you have done is moved the image, you can point the database record to its new location. If you have edited the image the database record is probably useless at that point.... the record of edits no longer apply to the image it started with. You will need to reimport the image to put it back into iPhoto properly.
Sticking with iPhoto... The Album and Folder structure you see in the sidebar are entirely virtual. They do not exist on your HDD. That is why you can have image in more than one Folder/Album... the Albums it is in are merely notes in a database record. And why the space savings are so great. You don't have a physical copy of an image for each Album ... it is merely an entry in the database.
When you start thinking this way... and it is a total mind shift ... you can begin to harness the power of the DAM. The key is start being organized. And to be thorough when you import a photo session. And to use the power of Smart Albums... whoo boy... they will make your life easier. All of you photos are tagged with a date by both your camera (most likely) and iPhoto. Keep your camera date accurate to make your life easier. When you import your photos (using your Holiday example) make sure you tag them with the keywords "Holiday" and "France", "Paris" .... for example. OK... Now you can create a Folder called Holidays. Inside this Folder create "Smart Albums". A Smart Album is a permanent search, essentially. So one SA (Smart Album) is set to search for the keywords "Holiday" and "Paris". Every photo tagged with those keywords will appear in this album. When you go back to Paris, as long as you keyword properly when you import the images those images will appear in this SA automatically. No extra work required. If you need to separate by year, SAs can do that too.
If you also like to keep all of your family photos in one place, simply add a keyword "Family" when you import, and create SA that searches on "Family". Perhaps you also like picture of trains, and you have a photo of your family standing in front of the train in Paris. Add the keyword "Train" to that photo, and it will appear in the SA you've created that searches on "Train". So... that one photo will automatically appear in the SAs for "Paris", "Family", & "Train".... as soon as you add those keywords.
Once your system is set-up the import will take longer than you are used to now. Simply because you are adding a multitude of keywords. Some keywords are common to a single import. For example, all the photos may be taken in Paris, but not every photo has your family or the train in it. But iPhoto has a built in Folder for "Last Import" (or something similar) which is meant to be used for this. You add keywords that are common to all, or almost all during the Import and then you go through this folder and clean up by deleting keywords from some photos and adding keywords to others. Once you've done it a few times it only takes a few minutes each time.
At this point, you are basically done. The Smart Albums will automatically update themselves so you just need to review them for errors perhaps.
When I used iPhoto extensively I reserved a regular Album for special events, or special projects. If I wanted to collect a number of images together that didn't have an easy to define commonality. Perhaps a slide show of the entire trip, using a few images from each location. One thing about Albums vs Smart Albums. You can't manually rearrange the order of the images in a Smart Album. To put images into a particular (and arbitrary) order you have to move them into an Album first. An image can be in as many Albums and Smart Albums as you want. And Albums and Smart Albums can be nested inside Folders. You just drag and drop them until you get the organization you want.
Really think about what you may do with your images. The absolute easiest time to add keywords is on Import, so have a good list to begin with. You can add keywords later, but it is a bit more cumbersome. For instance... you can keyword for colours, if you ever thought you might want to collect a bunch of green images for a project. You can keyword for Countryside and Urban. Etc Etc
Have a great New Year's... say hello to wife for us, tell her Canada wishes her the Best of the Season....
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - Jack Layton
|Dec 26, 2012, 04:31 PM
Wow. Some useful info there
So once my brain has accepted that the original image on the HDD sits there hiding away, I can edit the image in iPhoto and place it in multiple albums without touching the original image. Interesting
And I assume from what you say, that making multiple changes to an image doesnt take up any more space on my macbooks HDD, as iPhoto is simply a tool to view the original image?
I think I need to perhaps forget how I used to store photos on my PC and start getting my head around doing things a different way.
Many thanks, and happy New Year to you also
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|Dec 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
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|Dec 27, 2012, 06:36 AM
Many thanks, you have a great way of explaining things in a way thats simple to understand
I guess my only question now is does deleting a photo in iPhoto actually delete the original on the HDD?
Im looking forward to getting my photos organised in a more useful way. Both James and yourself have helped me enormously and I thank you both for your time.
Seasons greetings
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Last edited by Big Stevie; Dec 27, 2012 at 08:25 AM.
|Dec 27, 2012, 10:54 AM
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - Jack Layton
|Dec 27, 2012, 03:10 PM
Thanks again.
As far as back ups go, Im connected to a Time Capsule with Time Machine. But probably not for much longer as Ive spent so much time on my macbook today that my wife is probably going to rip it out of my hands and smash it over my head .
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Last edited by Big Stevie; Dec 27, 2012 at 04:01 PM.
|Dec 27, 2012, 08:40 PM
Thank you snberk103 and james for your explaining on iPhoto apps. It make me understand better.
Happy holidays to all of you.
|Dec 29, 2012, 05:09 PM
@Snberk103 - if photos are edited within iPhoto does this make a second copy of the photo? Would this then double the space taken up on the hard drive?
If I had say 50 photos using 20gb and edited them all would I then have 100 photos using 40gb or am I completely wrong?
Just want to make sure I know the basics before diving into iPhoto for the first time.
|Dec 29, 2012, 05:49 PM
Aperture, Apples Pro photo management program handles changes to files a little differently and for RAW photo's will store all Aperture changes as an adjustment file, thus reducing the size of the photo database when you make changes.
|Dec 29, 2012, 06:18 PM
Someone tell me if I'm off track, please?
I'm wondering if what I've been doing sorting my photos will lead to problems later on. Am I not using iphoto to its best and/or easiest?
My Library has 80 events, most of which are, well, an event. Some have hundreds of pics but some have only one or two pictures cause that's all I took that day; others are kinda compiled, like "Food," where I stash the shots of food from places we've eaten. Yeah, I do that. Events includes ALL the pics that I haven't deleted for being downright crappy and irredeemable, but not all are great. I figure that's the main storage, but it's not the best way to access pics.
Then I have Folders, that include various Events. Example, Folder "Disney Collectibles" has Events "Disney books," "Disney pins," etc. Folder "Vacations & trips" has individual Events of each of our vacations/trips plus a few Folders comprised of multiple Events from a single vacation/trip.
I also made a "Best of" Folder, comprised of "Best of" Albums, where each Album has the best pictures of whatever the subject is. These are what I usually look at, sort through, and use. These are the ones I load onto my iPad and iPhone, cause I don't want all 6300 Event pictures, just the 1200 good pics.
Does this make sense or am I being overly complicated or inefficient?
|Dec 29, 2012, 10:49 PM
UPDATE: It seems I am both right and wrong. I just created a new iPhoto Library, and dragged a single large TIFF image into it. I then cropped it and did few other other things to it and closed iPhoto. I checked the place that iPhoto parks its Master - the original image - and there is still just the one original. So far, I am correct that iPhoto does not make duplicates when you edit. However, I also noticed that the Library got much larger.... so I checked the Previews - and sitting in there is the edited version of the photo (but not the original). So, on that note - I would say I am incorrect... that iPhoto does create a new version (thus not saving any space). Sigh... I learn something new everyday. So... Point to James, and thank you for the correction.
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world. - Jack Layton
Last edited by snberk103; Dec 29, 2012 at 11:05 PM.
|Dec 30, 2012, 02:43 AM
|Dec 30, 2012, 04:49 AM
I'm learning lots on this thread, thanks.
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|Jan 10, 2013, 04:01 PM
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Lots of great information for new and experienced iPhoto users in this thread. Thanks everyone that is contributing. here is another question:
What are the best practices people have for "archiving" old pictures from iPhoto library to create more disk space for new pictures? I will be importing over 30K pictures from Windows hard drive to iPhoto on my new imac this weekend and worried that over time, just the photos alone will take up large chunk of 1TB hard drive. Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
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How do i tell if my hive is being robbed. I can sit within a foot of the entrance without protection and watch the entrance, but I have no idea what I am mlooking at. What does a robbing bee look like vs. one who is just doing his chores?
How do i tell if my hive is being robbed. I can sit within a foot of the entrance without protection and watch the entrance, but I have no idea what I am mlooking at. What does a robbing bee look like vs. one who is just doing his chores?
If the hive is strong enough they won't let them in.
You will see the guard bees tackle some of them mid air and some if they get passed you will see them sometimes two at a time dragging a live bee out of the hive.
A bee that is part of the hive will be greeted at the entrance and let in by the guards.
Don't laugh it's paid for. -- Manure draws more flies than honey.
Sitting a foot by the entrance is rather dangerous. Someone here got stung on the eyelid, face, neck, etc. I even stare into the hive within 6 inches to see what's at the bottom of the hive. But only after they settle down just before the sunset. Still dangerous though. Sometimes I am thinking to wear a goggle. Accident might happen when we are least expected. Now I sat 4 feet away on a high chair out of the busy bee route to watch them. A bit safer this way.
When you watch them you will see the normal flight path where they come and go without any restriction. This is the normal operation of the bees. The guard bee meets these foragers at the entrance kinda like bumping head and ease off into the hive. This is a very natural state they do this. Come and go at will! Just the low pitch smooth flying by buzzing before the landing. Once they landed the buzzing noise is no more. You will hear this noise when close to the hive entrance.
But during a robbing there will be many entropy either at the outside entrance or inside the hive. You will see they are biting each others. Tugging and dragging each others around and to the outside of the hive. If you ever see a live bee carrying the dead bee out off the entrance then they will roll around on the ground trying to free each other off. Also if you ever seen the mad bees with their wings up and buzzing loud noise, a robbing will increase this noise and buzzing level 10 times. It is like the whole hive is on guard maybe of the different smell of the foreign bees. So in a robbing situation fighting and rolling will increase while they tangled up with each others still alive. The noise level is fast and higher in buzzing sound like a stressful noise. Trying to kill each others is more like it. The next time you see a worker bee accident fly into a hive that is not hers, she will quickly buzzed out to avoid the guard beesr. Zip in and out really fast! Almost like lightning fast. When you see the many restless bees outside the hive then something is wrong here. I am trying to upload a vid of a queenless hive now. The restlessness increased 15 times at the entrance versus a normal calm hive with a queen in there. A robbing will increase this level to 25+ times more outside.
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I've also found that the noise in front of the hive may be an indicator of robbing. It may be an individual thing but, to me a hive being robbed sounds more intense (ticked-off) than the noises that I associate with a colony that is just really busy.
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Watch to see if anyone is bringing in pollen. A hive being robbed is dead or about to be and is't having pollen delivered. Look for bits of wax on the landing board but the dead give away is the light sticky brown paste left on the entrance. It from the robber bees tracking honey on their feet.
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I got a lot of pollen coming in, about 25% of the bees entering have pollen loads. But there is a lot of bees that seem to fly around the entrance without landing. Like it's not a direct fly in. There is usually 10-20 kinda darting about in front of the hive. I have not noticed the combat ya'll have mentioned. I will take better notice if it warms today. I have an entrance feeder and there are always 3-5 around the entrance feeder trying to stick their tongue between the crack where the jar lid joins the feeder body.
Entrance feeders are noted for starting Robbing.
Sounds like you're looking at orientation flights, especially if +/-25% of the bee's have pollen loads. Orientation flights are where young bees exit the hive and fly back and forth around the hive as they set their version of GPS. If they come out in mass it can look like robbing but there's no fighting at the entrance.
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I agree...orientation flights. I had a huge cloud in front of my hives this weekend. My hives are busting at the seams and still growing. Split time this weekend!
I have a really hard time distinguishing between orientation flights and robbing. The main difference I see is that once robbing gets going it goes as long as it is daylight, where orientation flgihts tend to occur only in the early to mid-afternoon and orientation activity last for only an hour or two. Also each hive seems to have its own preferred time of day for orientation flights, and its entrance activity is relatively quiet during other times of the day.
(4th year, Zone 5b, 10/12 hives survived W'14)
Bees are coming to the hive and leaving. Should be the other way round.
My brother's deadout got robbed out last spring, and this is what I observed vs orientation flights:
Bees flying around the hive investigating crack, under the telescoping cover, and behind the hive. Orienting bees are all in front.
Bees landing on the sides or front of the hive and walking around to find the entrance. Bees know where the entrance to their own hive is and fly straight in when "loaded" with pollen or nectar, sometimes landing short but going right in. Bees searching for the entrance are not from that hive.
Bees having trouble getting airborne when leaving, sometimes sliding down the landing board. During orientation, it's normal for bees to climb up the front of the hive to leave since there are so many bees flying directly into the entrance. This is the opposite of robbing, when bees fly slowly away and quickly in, landing on the front and walking down into the entrance.
A live hive will fight the robbers, but if they get overwhelmed you may not see much fighting, just heavy bees leaving. Probably a goner by that time.
the robbing bees clump together around entrances and any cracks and have this crazed movement to them. Sometime you'll see them clustered in a frenzy around a tiny crack that isn't an actual entrance looking for a way into the hive. If you block the entrance of a hive that is getting robbed and open it later, it's like a jail break mass exodus when the entrance is reopened.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but this seems like an important one. I recently started 3 bee colonies two days ago, and have labeled them with numbers and meticulously kept records of things I have noticed that seem important. I have Hive I,Hive II, and Hive III(I like Roman numerals). As we had to pick up our bee packages 2 days late due to incompetency of one of the workers, noticeable amounts of dead bees were dead on the bottom. So I recorded which strongest colonies went into which hives. Hive I had the strongest colony, Hive II had the weaker colony, and Hive III was a little weaker than Hive II.
Now to the point, I am seeing large clusters of bees around the entrance of Hive I, and bees going between hive 1 and II, and Hive III and II. I am feeding them with feeder bottles on top of the inner cover, covered by another super with a lid. I figured this would well hinder robbing. Also, no bees are carrying pollen or noticeably foraging at all. I figure this is normal since these hives are new and their queens aren't released yet? Anyways, I plugged the man made hole in the single brood box of Hive II with duct tape, as it "seems" to be the weakest colony. Am I too late? Also, the entrance reducers i got were about 3/4" too short, so there are 3 entrances on the other hives than Hive II


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Dr. Picciotto joined the Yale faculty in 1995, after completing a postdoctoral fellowship with Jean-Pierre Changeux in the Laboratory of Molecular Biology at the Institut Pasteur in Paris. She earned a Ph.D. in Molecular Neurobiology at The Rockefeller University in New York City in 1992, where she worked in the Laboratory of Molecular and Cellular Neuroscience under Paul Greengard. She received a B.S. degree in biological sciences from Stanford University, Stanford, California, in 1985.
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- Rockefeller University (1992)
Honors & Recognition
- Jacob P. Waletzky Memorial Award for Innovative Research in Drug Addiction and Alcohol Research
The Society for Neuroscience (2007)
- Human Frontiers Science Foundation 10th Anniversary Award
Human Frontiers Science Foundation (1999)
- Elected AAAS Fellow
American Association for the Advancement of Science (2014)
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- Foster Bam Independent Investigator Award
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- Handling Editor, Nicotine & Tobacco Research (2006 - 2012)
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The Lions are the fallen giants of South African rugby, but CEO Manie Reyneke tells SA Rugby magazine that they will rise again under Dick Muir.
A photo of the triumphant 1999 Currie Cup winners greets you upon entering the Golden Lions Rugby Union offices. Jannes Labuschagne and Hannes Strydom and co lifting a trophy – the last time a Lions side managed to do so. Ten long years – an eternity in professional sport.
With Louis Luyt as president during the '90s, the Lions were the dominant South African team. In a period from 1992-1994 under coach Kitch Christie they held virtually every title on offer – a pair of Currie Cups, three Lion Cups, two M-Net Night Series titles, and the Super 10 trophy in 1993.
How things have changed. Results in the past couple of years across all teams make for unpleasant reading. The Lions came last in the 2008 Super 14 and 12th in 2009, and while they made the Currie Cup semi-finals last year they finished sixth in 2009. Dig a little deeper, and the Vodacom Cup, U19 and U21 sides haven't yielded any silverware either. The U19s reached the final this year, but were walloped 45-13 by Free State. The University of Johannesburg have failed to make the play-offs in the Varsity Cup for two years running, and the Craven Week side hasn't produced. From the senior side to the schoolboys, the Lions are losers.
Lions CEO Manie Reyneke is always positive, but by late October he looked a jaded figure. More poor results, the departure of coaches Leon Boshoff and Loffie Eloff, and the Jaque Fourie contract saga will do that to you.
'It's a stressful job, there have been many problems that I've had to sort out over the past two years,' says Reyneke.
Those problems in the union came to a head with the axing of Eloff after the Super 14. After his three-year plan had failed, Jake White's Winning Way company was employed. The Lions didn't make the Currie Cup play-offs, but their last match of the season against Western Province provided some hope.
Now Lions supporters will wait to see if this was yet another false dawn.
The third intervention in three years came when Dick Muir was appointed as director of coaching, which includes leading the Super 14 team. He says claiming that title is the goal by the end of his three-year contract.
Various changes were implemented under White, but Muir has a different rugby philosophy. While White favours a structured, defence-orientated game (the Lions scored the sixth most tries in the Currie Cup but had the third best defensive record), Muir prefers a more expansive style.
'We also had an expansive game plan during the Currie Cup,' says Reyneke, 'and we scored some good tries. I don't think it will be such a major change.'
Reyneke stresses the involvement of Winning Way and the positive structures that were introduced in those five months – such as implementing player support systems – will not be wasted.
'When we brought in Winning Way, we were really down and out. I would tell the coaching staff every Monday that the players were unconditioned, but we needed someone from the outside to do those tests and look at our structures. Jake brought value. He introduced many things to the union – not things we didn't know, but things that needed to be changed. We need to be at the top again, so it was vital for this union to be cleaned out.
'The structures were there, they were just never used properly, so we've reinforced them. We knew exactly what needed improvement and all those things are up and running. All we need to do is maintain them. I'll make sure whoever is responsible for certain things does their job.'
Muir is going to be an extremely busy man, juggling not two jobs, but three. You would expect the director of coaching role to be an all-year-round job, but Muir will continue as Springbok assistant coach as well as the managing director of the International Rugby Academy in South Africa.
'It'll be quite easy for Dick,' says Reyneke. 'He'll be Super 14 coach and director of coaching, and will look at all the structures at the union. He'll make sure that the coaches who take the Vodacom, U21, U19 and Craven Week sides are competent. He was busy looking into all that before the Boks' November tour. I'm confident he can manage it.'
Fellow Bok assistant Gary Gold had also worked with the Stormers, but is now set to focus solely on the national job, posing further questions around whether Muir will be able to negotiate all three roles. His former employers at the Sharks even lodged an official complaint to Saru, as they felt it would be a conflict of interest as he could entice players away from them to his current team. Muir denied this would be the case and stressed that he would manage to juggle all three jobs.
'The Lions appointment is a natural extension of my other roles. I believe that the dual role – as the Springbok assistant coach and Lions Super 14 coach – will further enrich my position as the facilitator of the academy.'
Muir was selected ahead of 16 other applicants from across the world, beating off the challenge of his nearest competitor, Heyneke Meyer. Meyer was viewed by many as the ideal candidate to do a similar job at the Lions to what he'd done with the Bulls at Loftus – making them the all-conquering union they are today. However, he wanted an entourage of support staff.
'The main reason we didn't want Heyneke was because he wanted to bring a complete new structure,' says Reyneke. 'He wanted different personnel in a package deal of himself and seven other people. With Winning Way we evaluated our staff and there are competent people here.'
While Reyneke stresses that the structures are in place to return to the glory days of the early-90s, the main ingredient missing is quality internationals. The Lions' only Bok of 2009, Fourie, has left, making them the only big-five union without a regular Test player. The Lions have haemorrhaged talent, but both Reyneke and Muir believe another rebuilding job is not impossible. Most of the recruiting was done in the months prior to Muir's appointment, but Reyneke isn't concerned.
'Yes, a coach does make a difference in terms of who will be recruited – he does favour certain players before others – and Dick looked at all the lists. He gave input and we took his advice. There is a committee that does recruitment, where we evaluate each and every player, so it's not just individuals' choices. We have sent offers to overseas players, although we're limited in the number of foreigners we can recruit, but there are also excellent South Africans in Europe.
'The fact is there are not many Boks around who don't have contracts. But players follow coaches, and although it won't have an immediate effect as we are one of those unions that honour contracts, there will be players coming our way. We'll strengthen our side and become a force.
'We also have an abundance of young talent in this country and we're doing many of our players an injustice by contracting them and not giving them game time.'
Another challenge facing the Lions is the pitiful crowd attendances at Ellis Park due poor results and safety concerns. Some have suggested relocating to a ground outside the Jo'burg CBD, but Reyneke believes the ailing Lions brand will only get a much-needed injection once the team starts producing.
'You must remember this is a cosmopolitan area, it's not as easy for us to have the same homely atmosphere as the Sharks or Bulls. There are many Stormers supporters staying in Jo'burg making their money here, and the same goes for the other teams' fans.
'We have excellent projects; we're the only union in the country that gives all U7 to U18 registered rugby players in the province free season tickets. There are many good projects on the go, but once we start winning, it will change overnight.
'The fact is I could spend R20 million on marketing and it would all be wasted if we don't start winning on the field. Winning is marketing.'
By Grant Ball
– This article first appeared in the December issue of SA Rugby magazine. The Jan-Feb issue is on sale now.


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lawson??? why not iggy?
Against 16 out of the 30 NBA teams. More than half of the league. The reason for the maybe is obvious-- Gordon is just so tough as nails he might over do it and faint on the court.
The 14 I say they are not:
Philadelphia (Bynum)
Brooklyn (Williams)
New York (Amare & Melo)
Boston (Garnett & Pierce)
Chicago (Rose)
Miami (James, Wade, Bosh)
OKC (Durant)
Denver (Lawson)
Portland (Aldridge)
Clippers (CP3)
Lakers (Dwight, Gasol, Kobe)
Dallas (Dirk)
Memphis (Gay)
San Antonio (Duncan, Ginobilli)
Obviously TEAMS win games but just something to get re-amped since these last few games have been deflating.
Last edited by luckyman; 10-23-2012 at 09:37 PM.
Gordon's defense is just as good as Iggy but his offense is leaps and bounds better. And I'm a HUGE Iggy fan.
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Gordon's a good defender, but not as good as Iggy. Come on, guys.
Gordon at 100% could zoom past :
insert Denver player here
on that list.
I also think he can have a better season than Manu, but Parker is the best player on SA and Gordon is not better than him
Anyway, interesting topic. Hornets roster is very top heavy
It's not really about Gordon against these players one-on-one, but what happens when the ball is in their hands (or defending it). Some of those players I consider equal on the court, so that would mean he's not better, but not worse. He's not zooming past Lawson. Give the lil guy his due too. He's Denver's best player and can take over a game and score 30+ at any time...just like Gordon.
It is an interesting topic to think about instead of these pre-season beat downs.
I like Lawson a lot... but he is getting extremely overrated these days. He has a very good player in Gallinari next to him and he has the best backup PG in the league behind him (Miller). Lawson is good but he's only a borderline to 10 PG in this league.\
Gordon if healthy is leaps and bounds a better and more complete player than Lawson.
Gordon is better than lawson is every catergory besides maybe ball handler and midrange shooting. He is just as fast, way stronger, more athletic, not as quick, but is way better on D, any single Gm in the league would trade lawson in a second if it meant they would receive gordon, hands down. he's one of the best scorers and perimeter defenders in the nba... They only have about 7 or 8 guards in the league that are better...
cp3, deron, rose, kobe, manu (maybe), harden (maybe)
If gordon stays healthy with davis he will become a top 20 player and him and davis will be a top 5 pick and roll combo for years
wow, gonna have to agree with this almost completely
Last edited by jgman; 10-24-2012 at 02:10 AM.
I've barely seen Gordon play. I'm not confident saying he's better than anyone yet. Not Lawson, Iggy, or Manu.
"I don't know if people know I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"
Gordon's defense isn't anywhere close to being as good as Iggy's. Gordon is a better scorer for sure.
Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams
Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
I'm just excited to be able to see Gordon on the court, at least for the opener.
"any single Gm in the league would trade lawson in a second if it meant they would receive gordon"<<< this is false. Why trade a player who's been balling out and close to the same player as Gordon for a guy who can't prove he can stay on the court? I don't think any GM would take this risk.
Last edited by Trell; 10-24-2012 at 08:24 AM.
I know majority of us all are Gordon fans but lets not over rate his defense. You guys are saying he has more perimeter defense than one of the best perimeter defenders in this league. Before Gordon came here he was the type of player that you knew what he can do, but he never did it(on defemse). Some consider it lazy when a player wants the ball on offense but never plays D. He shown us a flash of him being a good perimeter defender but never consistent because he is always injured or just did not play defense. Maybe it change this year maybe it don't but lets not say false things because he is on our team.
^^ You are severely underrating his defence. I watched Gordon a lot when he was on the clippers and many Clippers fans will agree with me when I say he he is one of the most underrated on the ball defenders in this entire league.
Don't think anyone said he's better than Iggy. I said he's as good. Obviously, he's smaller so he can't guard SFs like Iggy can. But at the same time I wouldn't put Iggy on Derrick Rose if I had a choice.
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Moving Day
54 comments
- Meghan Goheen said...
Good Luck!
looking forward to hearing all about it.
- January 20, 2012 at 7:03 AM
- Liz Kantner said...
Good luck with the move! xo
- January 20, 2012 at 7:09 AM
- Stephanie and Such said...
Adventures are so fun. Plus St. George has sooo many fun things to do, I am jealous! You'll have to hit up Nielson's Frozen Custard like, oh, everyday for me ;)
BTW I am so excited I won that necklace....YAY! Who do I send my info to?
- January 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM
- Renee B. said...
Hugs!!!!! Hope your moving in process is easy and low stress! This new chapter.... It's gonna be awesome. I know it. :) love ya girlie!!!
- January 20, 2012 at 7:20 AM
- brooke field said...
Good luck with everything this weekend! The photos of you are beautiful too.
- January 20, 2012 at 7:23 AM
- Jenna (SewSavoirFaire) said...
You look divine! That suitcase is so perfect! I wish you so so much luck. You will do great! I can't wait for updates! <3
- January 20, 2012 at 7:26 AM
- Ugly Duckling said...
Good luck with the move. Sure you'll do great down there!
Amelia @ UGLY DUCKLING x
- January 20, 2012 at 7:28 AM
- Ruthie Hart said...
goodluck on your endeavors!!!
- January 20, 2012 at 7:56 AM
- karajean said...
Good luck! Moving is scary but exiting at the same time. Good for you for trying something new!
- January 20, 2012 at 8:00 AM
- Ariel said...
HOW EXCITING! Good luck with the move!
- January 20, 2012 at 8:02 AM
- Katelyn Rattray said...
Good luck moving! I can't wait to read all about it after!
- Katelyn
- January 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM
- Christina May Andrews said...
These photos are great!!! Enjoy the move :)
- January 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM
- Megan said...
SO exciting! Good luck with your move! I look forward to reading about your new adventures in this next chapter of your life :)
Cute photos!!
- January 20, 2012 at 8:24 AM
- Elisha(: said...
good luck!!! (= <3
- January 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM
- Little Lo Hood said...
Oh good luck lady! Sounds very exciting! :) -Lo
- January 20, 2012 at 8:40 AM
- Ashley Slater said...
pretty sure I have had break-downs before---- its normal!!!!!! I know you are going to have GREAT adventures though and the move is the right thing for you right now-- I mean, you can always go back. :)
I will be thinking about you this weekend as you settle in!
- January 20, 2012 at 8:42 AM
- LindsayNicole said...
SOOOO Excited for you! Good luck miss!!Cant wait for you to start this new adventure
- January 20, 2012 at 8:50 AM
- my soul is the sky said...
Good Luck Gent! I'm glad you'll still be on the blogosphere and I hope you enjoy your transition and new classes :)
- January 20, 2012 at 9:00 AM
- m(elanie) said...
You are so TINY!
But, anyway. I'm so happy that you're taking on a kinda scary thing like moving. It's a big deal! And you're a brave woman who's done so much for yourself. Nothing's impossible and you have everything you need to do whatever it is that your little heart wants.
Good luck lady! Keep us updated on how its going : )
- January 20, 2012 at 9:01 AM
- ... said...
ooo good luck with your move! also, your hair looks amazing :) i can see the ombre a lot more in these pictures and it totally suits you.
mrs. dtf
- January 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM
- Autumn said...
You will do wonderful! I'm excited to hear about your new adventures there in school :)
- January 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM
- Madeline Grace said...
Good luck! I hope everything goes as planned! Fingers crossed!
xoMadeline Grace
- January 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM
- Melu103 said...
i am crossing all my fingers gorgeous!
i wish you the best of luck and
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- January 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM
- Sherri said...
Good for you! That's exciting. Change is good. Right now I'm deciding where I should go and what my next step is myself. It's a tough decision but it's great that you made one! Good luck and look forward to hearing your adventures!
xo sherri
- January 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM
- Claire said...
that is so exciting i hope the classes are everything you hoped for! And you look pretty damn hot in those pictures btw!!
- January 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM
- Amber said...
Good luck on your move and your new adventure :)
xo Amber P.
- January 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM
- JRuud said...
YAY for moving; cannot wait to hear more sweetie!! Good luck in everything you do. I need to do this, but I'm ready to move out of Utah! I need to open a new chapter of my life.
YOU ARE SO ADORABLE by the way. Loving your outfit!!
Keep in touch! xo.
- January 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM
- Whitney said...
How exciting! I can't wait for a recap on your new adventure!
- January 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM
- indie by heart said...
Sounds exciting. Change can be good, especially if the destination is something you've dreamt of. <3
Lovely photos of you too :>
I hope all goes well with the moving, it's always a little hectic. :) All the best for you at your new home,
xx Satu
Indie by Heart
- January 20, 2012 at 11:31 AM
- stephanie said...
wishing you the best on your move! you look adorable by the way!!! xo
- January 20, 2012 at 11:37 AM
- Brhea {NoPlaceLykeHome} said...
Go get 'em, girl! You are going to do fantastic. You are braver than many that is for sure. A leap of faith like this will surely pay off :) Sending positive energy your way! xo
- January 20, 2012 at 12:14 PM
- Brittany Lew Whoo said...
you are GORGEOUS! good luck with your move girl!
- January 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM
- Angela [Simply Simple Me] said...
Can't wait to hear about the adventure <3
Good luck!
Love your suitcase!
- January 20, 2012 at 12:46 PM
- Janette said...
Everything is going to work out Gentri! Just want and see!
♥Janette, the Jongleur
- January 20, 2012 at 12:59 PM
- Che said...
Good luck Gentri! Be sure to post some pictures of the new places ;)
- January 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM
- Leila said...
Beautiful photographs. And moving is scary! I had my first independent move this past summer--from Michigan to California! I was terrified, but now I'm adjusted and having the time of my life. :) Embrace the change, and have fun!
- January 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM
- Katie said...
Good luck Gentri! I think that is great!
- January 20, 2012 at 4:56 PM
- karly [plums and mustard] said...
yayy! that will be so fun! good luck with everything you choose to do!
did that sound like a yearbook signing?
sooorrrrry. i mean it! :]
- January 20, 2012 at 5:00 PM
- Gaby said...
happy moving! hope it's not too stressful!
- January 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM
- Lena said...
Gentri ... CONGRATULATIONS!! Sounds like such exciting stuff happening in your life right now. So pumped for you!!!
- January 20, 2012 at 7:08 PM
- Kylee Noelle {blog} said...
yay! I'm guessing it didn't snow then? good luck with the move and hope it's not too stressful!
- January 20, 2012 at 7:28 PM
- Erin said...
So excited for you as you start this next journey! :)
- January 20, 2012 at 8:08 PM
- McKenzie King said...
these pics are amazing! i am so excited for you, change is good! good luck!
- January 20, 2012 at 8:13 PM
- Amanda said...
Goo luck with the move! I know everything will go perfectly!
- January 21, 2012 at 6:41 AM
- Sammyzee said...
good luck! thats so exciting! btw super cute sweater! where did you get it?
- January 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM
- Shalyn said...
Okay, those pictures= STUNNING! You are so beautiful! Moving is so tough but I know you will be just fine!
- January 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM
- Lauren Gardner said...
these pics are stunning! and your suitcase does match my travel one! Where did you get yours? random lol. so are you going to dixie? or suu? i went to dixie. i can tell you all the secrets if you are going there. you better hurry back to me!
- January 21, 2012 at 2:04 PM
- Sweet Harvest Moon said...
Goooood luck!
- January 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM
- Dearest Lou said...
Good luck girl and you look super cute btw(:
- January 22, 2012 at 1:42 AM
- Ashley Eliza said...
been thinking of you this weekend gentri! hope the move was great you are going to have the time of your life! I'm so glad we got to do this photo session before you left! can't wait to finish editing them and send them to you :)
- January 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM
- Laura Elizabeth said...
Best of luck Gentri dear! I know I'm a little behind the times but I send love all the same :)
Can't wait to hear about all the things you'll be getting up to... accompanied by gorgeous photos, of course!
- January 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM
- LOVESTRONG said...
LOVE your cute pictures. My husband has already dragged me to 3 different states in under a year of marriage. haha it's the wifely duty :)
- January 22, 2012 at 5:04 PM
- Bree said...
Good luck Gentri! I'm sure you'll have so much fun!! :)
- January 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM
- Ashley said...
It's always a bit scary before a 'big' move, but it always works out! How exciting you'll be taking classes... I've sort of been wanting to take some classes lately (even if it is just art or photography classes). Get em girl! (:
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