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Are you better off than you were four years ago?
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- Don't complain about lack of options. You've got to pick a few when you do multiple choice. Those are the breaks.
- Feel free to suggest poll ideas if you're feeling creative. I'd strongly suggest reading the past polls first.
- This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.
Are you better off than you were four years ago?
Way better! (Score:5, Interesting)
Four years ago I was working at a place I thought was fantastic, and was happily married. My older step-son was working his way through second-year university, still needing some assistance from me. But Fate had some bad s*** in store for me.
Today, I am very happily separated, sole owner of my house (yeah, with the bank), and have an awesome girlfriend (and two more sorta-step-kids). And I'm working on contract at place that has its challenges, but is a much more comfortable situation then living in a Watership Down type of company. And older step-son graduated from engineering (with a B+ average!!!), got his iron ring, and just celebrated his first anniversary at a permanent job.
Thanks for asking. Life is good.
Canned years ago.... (Score:1, Interesting)by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @12:44PM (#41539805)
I got canned years ago. I then went and got another degree - MBA - yeah, yeah. yeah; but the thing is, at the end of my last job, I was training my "more qualified" H1-b replacement on what those asterisks mean in the C code and the concept of pointers. But I'm an American and unqualified.
So I mistakenly thought, "what do engineers do when they want to get out of engineering? Go into management!" So, off to school, knocked off an MBA (lots of mindless busy work with a team - everything is done in teams) and voila! Nothing except tens of thousands of dollars in student loans that I have no way of getting rid of.
Education is supposed to be good, right?
Try as I might, another tech job is forever lost - been out of the field for too long and I'm well over 40 years of age.
All my 401Ks are long gone to pay the bills and it kills me because if I were able to keep them, I'd have a nice nest egg - not rich, but I wouldn't have to eat cat food.
Start a business you say? Been there, done that - three times. Even in good times it's hard but when everyone is afraid of spending money because of uncertainty - forget it!
And by uncertainty, I don't mean who's going to be President in 2013. It doesn't matter contrary to what you hear in ALL of the electronic media. It's the uncertainty.
Lastly, the worst thing that could happen is if Bernanke is canned as Fed Chairman in 2015. His PhD dissertation was on monetary policy during the Great Depression and he's doing his damnedest not to make the same mistakes the Fed made back then - in spite of the Republican's insistence on austerity measures. Maybe we NEED another terrorist attack so that the Reps will allow Bernanke to do his thing without the BS because when there's a terrorist attack, the Republicans have no problem opening up the coffers -see 2002 - 2008 and the budget deficit - the Reps CONTROLLED BOTH the Whitehouse AND Congress and went completely APESHIT with the spending, bailed out the Wall Street assholes, and they are now blaming Obama - just saying.
Don't get me started on the Democrats during the 1970s.
Now, I'm going to pace around the house, mumbling "bullshit", "bullshit", "bullshit", "bullshit"
by orgelspieler (865795) <w0lfie@@@mac...com> on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @12:50PM (#41539903) JournalMy net worth and family income are down by tens of thousands of dollars. But I'm better off. My in-laws moved to town (yes, this is positive; I have the most kick-ass in-laws in the world). I had my second kid. My son got interested in Lego. I moved to a new home closer to work and nature. I've had four all-expense paid trips to Hawai'i. I've written some music, read a few books, built some furniture, watched some interesting TV, lost 20 pounds, learned some cool stuff, met some neat people. Plus my wife's gotten really good at cooking. The list could go on. Yeah some shitty things have happened. Yeah, I've lost some good friends and family members. But life is what you make of it.
Re:A big Yes (Score:5, Interesting)We've both changed within our respective companies. I moved up and over for more pay and better coworkers, and she moved over to get a good change. We also bought a much bigger home in a better local city at the trough of the market and sold the old house only recently when it had increased in value 50% more, with good tenants in there for the year in between, and I just found a seventeen year old car that I've wanted since I was a teenager with only 6,400 miles on it. Her retirement portfolio also has recovered to pre-recession levels.
We've constantly lived below our means. That's why, when the housing market and economy tanked, we could afford to buy a house that was three times the size of the old one. Had we been living at our means we'd have been screwed.
Prudence and luck are what got us here.
Worse off, but not by much. (Score:4, Interesting)by screwzloos (1942336) on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @03:36PM (#41541895)Four years ago I was single, broke, underweight, depressed, living in the dorms, bored with and failing my classes, and had racked up thirty grand in student loan debt that I didn't know how to pay off. I played World of Warcraft to get through the day.
This year I am still single, still broke, still underweight, still depressed, sharing an overcrowded house, bored with my job, on house arrest for year for a car accident, and I owe a hundred grand in restitution that I don't know how to pay off. I play World of Warcraft to get through the day.
I don't see things improving anytime soon. I'll probably pick up drinking again once I am off of house arrest.
by khr (708262) <firstname.lastname@example.com> on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @03:50PM (#41542029) Homepage
I feel like I'm much better off... Sure I downsized homes, from a 2,300 square foot apartment with household servants to a 350 square foot one. But it's the location, from Pune, India to Midtown Manhattan...
I've got a job that pays well enough to live in the heart of New York City instead of halfway around the world, and I'm a lot healthier and getting laid more than I was during most of my stay in India.
And I'm sure, more improvement to come!
Yes - I have health insurance! (Score:3, Interesting)by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @06:21PM (#41543645)
I'm finally allowed to buy health insurance (at any price), via Oregon's state-administered "high-risk pool". This was part of the Obama administration's health care reform package. The cost of the policy? A whopping $20 more than the lowest-priced no-mental-health, no-office-visit, deny-all-your-claims commercial option.
Yes, you read that right. I live in a supposed first-world country, make $85k per year as a damn-reasonable software engineer, and the biggest improvement in a year is that I now have access to basic health care services.
Hopefully this is a first stop on the way to total extinction of the health insurance industry. It's a large-scale humanitarian disaster.
Definately worse (Score:4, Interesting)
Four years ago, I had an inspiring full time job with a company that seemed to be going somewhere.
Unfortunately, where the company actually went is into the dust bin.
Since that time, I've been a lot of time unemployed in large part because few hardware startups (which are my bread and butter) are getting funded.
A short term gig with a crappy company abruptly ended today. It was somewhat longer and the company less crappy than the gig that I ended a few months earlier.
An American Centric Question by an American? (Score:5, Interesting)
Better Off Is Subjective (Score:5, Interesting)by SuperCharlie (1068072) on Wednesday October 03, 2012 @10:17PM (#41545261)4 years ago I was a senior tech at a University, My wife was a University Webmaster. While not rolling in it, we bumped $100k/yr or so, did the suburbia thing, 2 cars with notes, debt up to our eyeballs, a monthly budget of bills and whatnot around $5k and pretty much blew the rest on crap... living the typical American dream.
Then, we simply walked away. Simply put in our notices and said screw this mess. Dont get me wrong.. this isnt an indictment of those who live this life, it is that *we* decided not to live our lives spending 5/7th of it doing other peoples bidding, waking up to an alarm clock, living for the weekends, yada yada.
We took our money, paid our debts, started a very very small web biz, bought some land, bought some tools, built a small house and crazily, live with no debt, off the grid, with a monthly budget and income that puts us squarely under the poverty line.
We wake up when we damn well please, we work on our biz when we want, we wander around exploring when we want, we go fishing on Tuesday afternoons if we want, we laugh regularly when we ask each other what day it is... (ok I know hump day because of the Chive).
So.. better off? well... I like it better. So I guess the answer for me is yes, Im poor as a hell of a lot happier.
FWIW.. tomorrow is wood stove install day.. Im totally jazzed that we scraped up $500 for the stove and pipe and tomorrow I will be installing our winter heating, fired up by wood I cut last spring FTW
Re:But it had nothing to do with Obama (Score:4, Interesting)by level_headed_midwest (888889) on Thursday October 04, 2012 @04:06PM (#41552623)
There is actually a good amount of truth in that "tired fallacy." If you are a runner running a race, nothing I can do will help you run faster as only you can make yourself do that. But I can sure make you run slower if I whack you in the kneecap with a crowbar. Government is pretty much the same way.


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Around 70% of the profits from the game will go to the SA Players Association (Sarpa), whose complaints about burnout seem to quieten down when the cash comes their way.
Another Bok reject, injured WP hooker Schalk Brits, could also play against his countrymen if he can regain fitness in time.
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By Frank Lewis
October 15, 2013
Frank Lewis
PDT Staff Writer
The Scioto County Sheriff's Office made quick work of solving a robbery Monday. Scioto County Sheriff Marty V. Donini said his office received a 911 call at 4:59 p.m. from Giovanni's Pizza located at 10355 Main St. in South Webster. The report said a male subject dressed in a large coat, ski mask and gloves entered the store grabbed the cash register and took off.
Deputies said while exiting the property it appeared he dropped some type of gun outside the store. The caller said he jumped into a white Chevrolet 4-door Cavalier that appeared to have a t-shirt covering the tag. The vehicle left reportedly headed down Ohio 140 toward Wheelersburg.
Deputies responded to Giovanni's and were able to get statements from witnesses that were inside the store during the robbery and gather information for a report. Deputies were also able to recover the gun which was identified as an air soft pistol.
Donini said his office received a call stating that a white cavalier matching the suspect vehicle was leaving Ashley Corner headed toward South Webster. Sgt. Darren Fike and Deputy George Antonaros were able to observe the vehicle traveling on Ohio 140 toward South Webster which resulted in a traffic stop. The suspect was detained and detectives were called out to this location.
Detectives were able to recover the cash register that had been tossed into a creek on Railroad Hollow Road, the clothing and mask worn during the robbery and the money stolen from the cash register. During the investigation detectives also learned that the suspect had broken into the Country Store located in South Webster at 1:03 a.m.
Arrested was Jonathan Bellar, 19 of Kittle Road, Wheelersburg. Bellar has been charged with one count of robbery, a felony of the second degree and one count of breaking and entering, a felony of the fifth degree. Bellar was held on a $90,000 bond.
Donini said the investigation is ongoing, which could result in more arrests and other charges being presented to the Scioto County grand jury on a later date.
He said anyone with any information concerning the robbery or break-in should contact detective Jodi Conkel at 740-351-1091.
Frank Lewis may be reached at 740-353-3101, ext. 252, or at email@example.com. For breaking news, follow Frank on Twitter @FrankLewisPDT


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First Lady Asma Assad of Syria: English Rose; Desert Rose; Fashionista
Asma Al Assad's image in the western media has taken a turn for the worse since the Syrian uprising began. The wife of a man now regarded the world over as something of a murderous tyrant, she was previously feted by leaders of European countries; in fact, she was born in one, and carries a UK passport.
There are many faces to Asma Al Assad: sometimes western, sometimes Arab; sometimes philanthropic, sometimes a banker. Always stylish. And, as recently most attested, the unremittingly good wife.
A look at how Syria's First Lady, that is, first for charity and good works, began to slip if not plunge from grace. Aside from over-spending, which many wives are guilty of, she has colluded, as lately exposed in her husband's mocking of reform and covert-tank tactics. She has gradually shifted from strained shades of silence to more significant public support for the questionably inscrupulous father of her children. An email statement issued straight from her office, voiced her wifely stance capped in her advocacy of his constitutional reform pledge. From the flattering epithet 'desert rose' offered early 2011 by a Vogue appraisal, she has more aptly started to earn, in some minds, the label of Arabic 'Marie Antoinette', as her husband's subjects choke on their Kanaafeh (an Arabic cake).
I am still waiting on a genuine response...., the above comment makes me think there might be more to the story when if fact you are just ignorant and blind.
Syria is now like North Korea. Good Luck Syria. God be with you. If there is anyone from Syria who feels that Bashar is truly a god and is doing the right thing. Please clear the air. Explain the controversy! Only a monster in the likes of Hitler would be proud of the way the Syrian situation is being handled by its government. Your own women and children are being murdered by the hands of the Assad family (Maher Al-Assad).
To me it sounds like, only 13% of Syria is made up of Alawites (pro Assad)
Is the solution to coerce the remaining 87% into believing that they should continue to live in a state of subservience? Do the Syrian People truly stand behind these killings? Do you stand behind these killings?
I would like to know how you feel about the Houla massacres? If there is missing information please clear the air. Do you not worry for your people? How and Why are you in support of such horrible atrocities? The public deserves to know the truth.


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For as long as he can remember, Feroz Khan has been fascinated by the power of dance. As a young boy growing up in Mumbai, Khan was mesmerized by the storytelling that flowed from the steps, the turns, and even the most delicate hand gestures featured in iconic Bollywood films. Pursuing his passion for dance, Khan started his career as a backup dancer and worked his way through the Bollywood ranks. Today he is one of India's most sought-after choreographers. Often juggling multiple projects at a time, Khan searched for a simple way to coordinate all the different ideas and sources of inspiration critical to shaping his dance routines. Khan found everything he needed to craft and share all his ideas in a single tool: iPad Air.
Bollywood dancing is all about the details. And Khan knows that every detail, from prop to costume, can tell a deeper story. While walking among the tightly packed stalls in India's many outdoor markets, he pulls out his iPad Air to snap photos of colorful finds perfect for a particular dancer or scene. Then he quickly and easily shares the images with his costume designer and prop master to begin collaborating on his vision.
In Khan's world, he is always working. Because inspiration can strike at any time — and it often does — Khan's iPad Air functions as a portable, digital mood board that he carries with him everywhere. When a new idea strikes him, he pulls it out to review his thoughts in Notes, or pore over his photos to reconsider the look and feel of a scene. He might stop at a local cafe to browse Pinterest for new ideas, or open iTunes en route to a meeting to hear the film's title song again and reimagine dance steps. With all the moving parts of a film, from wardrobe to set design, Khan's days used to be consumed with endless meetings and discussions with his director, producer, and crew.
Khan found it not only incredibly tedious but also challenging to share a clear vision across multiple channels and team members — especially when things were moving fast, which they inevitably were. With iPad Air, Khan is able to adopt an entirely new approach that enables him to save precious time and share his input more simply and cohesively. Khan can set up a shared photo stream and invite his team to view photos and videos in a single, organized album. His colleagues can add comments and their own content. This way, everyone can receive updates instantaneously and get on the same page more quickly.
The slim, lightweight design of iPad Air allows Khan to maneuver easily around his performers to capture the subtleties of the dance better than he could with a traditional camera, lens, and tripod. Then he uses the SloPro app on iPad to slow down each frame and analyze movements more carefully. Instead of watching the footage at home on videotape and
meeting with his dancers the next day, Khan gathers them around for in-depth, on-the-spot feedback. "Watching my dancing slowed down on the iPad lets me see what Feroz is seeing, and I can understand better what he wants changed," says principal dancer Heena Panchal. "It's so much easier for me to adjust my movements this way."
Painstakingly choreographed movements. A bright red scarf and other perfectly handpicked props. Once all the elements of a sequence fall into place, Khan uses the Artemis HD app on iPad to frame his dance scenes from all the right angles. Before, Khan would have to wait until the day of the shoot to share his input.
Now, with Artemis HD on iPad, Khan is able to select the same camera his director of photography uses and experiment with lens options ahead of time. The two go back and forth as much as needed in preproduction. And the director of photography has all the information he needs to frame the scene once shooting begins.


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Is there a picttar thread somewhere? I did not see one. I'll start u guys off. Try not to stare
And yeah I do look 17, but im almost 23
Is there a picttar thread somewhere? I did not see one. I'll start u guys off. Try not to stare
And yeah I do look 17, but im almost 23
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RWD is the only way.
I'll play.
Here is me standing on the back straight of the Indy Motor Speedway, qualifying day for MotoGP this year. I had just gotten to ride down this stretch on my bike, hence the jacket and boots.
And me on the ride home, took this traveling down I74 at 75mph.
23 is nothing, I'm 27 and still feel like I'm 10!
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no pictures just this nice oil painting someone made of me
stay in drugs, eat school, and don't do vegetables
permanent vacation
I'll play
i play i guess
im the ginger
the ride aka My Baby
From Pax
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I'm the dude, obviously.
I'm the one with the jacket on, 28 years old. Looks like 15, and acts like 12.
And the car that always gives me troubles...
The volvos
To be fixed and sold
That pic is about 3 years old so ...... I need to get a newer one of my more bufftastic bodddd
God damn captain excitement himself.
Try to calm down and act a little serious for you next pic please.
stay in drugs, eat school, and don't do vegetables
permanent vacation
I will be the first to admit I look like a total tard when I smile
pic is a bit over 2 years old as the little chest burster is now 3.
i'm currently down a few pounds as well as hair lol - it seems to be running away from my maaaaaaasssive brain!!
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Oops forgot, car:
Red Leader - Team Infidel
The Price of 7reedom is the Willingness 2 do Sudden Battle Anywhere, Anytime an6 With Utter Recklessness
I'll play
Me with the biggest beer I've ever had(they no longer offer this glass @ heartland brewery)
Previous car before moving from FL to the land of potholes:
Current car:
These threads always make me laugh. I'll play, what the hell.
(despite the fact that I'm drinking a PBR and wearing a flat cap, I'm no goddamn hipster)
I'm in the middle, doing the tourist thing
The beast-
2007 Volkswagen Golf GTi Edition 30
US Coast to Coast Roadtrip Jun '11.
this is the only pic of me i have online - its from the end of last year and from the health and fitness progress thread when i was sitting at 300lbs.
bodyfat is down in the past year and i added a bunch of muscle. still need to lean out a bit though and get under 270.
Ferrari Scuderia 2012 - "The people who speak badly about me then tremble and cry when they want to have their picture taken with me - F. Alonso
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never any women posting to these threads. are we THAT scary?
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Here's my current standard internet pic:
That's my collection of old model car kits behind me.
-Andrew L
"The whole economy is hinged on potholes." --Ray Magliozzi
Hubcap Business on hiatus while I finish the Pontiac Project and The House | Philly/NJ highways blog Windshield Time
I'm going to mix things up a bit.
Figure out which of these people I am:
I am also trying to sex this thread up a bit. Too much sausage.
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They brought a spiritual balance to religion
Yussuf J. Simmonds
These women brought a balance to the natural order of things in creation. Since it takes two to procreate, any ideal that is male dominated defies nature. Having women involved in any human endeavor or undertaking only adds to its validity.
As the second female bishop in the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church, Bishop Carolyn Tyler-Guidry was the first female appointed to be a presiding elder in the Fifth Episcopal District which includes California. She started Bible School in Los Angeles in 1977, followed by her pastor-ship of the First AME Church in Indio, California. After instituting some creative programs there, Tyler-Guidry moved on to pastor another church, Cain Memorial AME Church in Bakersfield, where she remained for five years.
Coming to Los Angeles in 1989, Tyler-Guidry was appointed to pastor the Walker Temple AME Church, a major metropolitan church with about 600 members. Her performance was so extraordinary that five years later, she became the first female appointed to presiding elder in the Fifth Episcopal District - a milestone.
Throughout the years that she pastored the above-mentioned churches, Tyler-Guidry used the skills she had acquired in Business and Secretarial Science at J.P. Campbell College in Jackson, Mississippi, her hometown, where she earned her AA degree and she later studied economics at Tougaloo College, a liberal arts institution also in Jackson, Mississippi. She had also worked for the NAACP and chaired the women's voter registration in Jackson. In addition, Tyler-Guidry's 12 years at Security Pacific Bank in California added to her wealth of experience that she used skillfully during her various stints as pastor.
Tyler-Guidry went on to become the second female bishop elected in the A.M.E. Church in July 2004 about the same time she received her master's of theology from Fuller Theological Seminary. With her election as a bishop, she is designated one of the AME's Episcopal district worldwide; her first district was the 16th Episcopal district which consisted of Cuba; the Dominican Republic; Haiti; Jamaica; London, England; Suriname, Guyana; the Virgin Islands; and the Windward Islands.
At the 48th Quadrennial Session of the AME General Conference in July 2008, Tyler-Guidry presided over the Business Session XIV. One of the items on the agenda during the sessions, held every four years, is the assignments of the bishops to the various AME districts worldwide. After the 16th district, the Right Reverend (her official title) Carolyn Tyler-Guidry was assigned as the presiding prelate of the 8th district. That district included Louisiana and Mississippi, her home state and she stated that she was pleased to extend greetings to all who visit this site and I must say that I am truly excited to have the opportunity to serve as the Presiding Prelate of the Eighth Episcopal District for this 2008- 2012 Quadrennial.
Despite the rigorous schedule her administrative and pastoral duties as a presiding prelate entailed, Tyler-Guidry always found the time to conduct invocations, served on numerous boards and other community activities outside of the church. And though her official duties often make her relocate to different districts within the AME church structure, Tyler-Guidry calls Southern California her home. She is the mother of six children and the grandmother of twelve.
When Bishop Vashti Murphy McKenzie, the first woman to be elected bishop of the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) church, was speaking to a graduate class at Central State University in Wilberforce, Ohio, she said, "You have been prepared to be critical thinkers ... open your eyes and seek new ideas ... find new ways to explore new spiritual frontiers."
McKenzie was born in Baltimore, Maryland, May 1947 to Ida Murphy Smith and Samuel Edward Smith. After attending high school as one of six Black students at Eastern High School, she went on to Blair School of Journalism for a brief period before enrolling at Morgan State University (MSU) where she majored in history. McKenzie then earned her Bachelor's degree at the University of Maryland, College Park and began working for her family newspaper, the "Afro- American." There, she wrote her own column, "The McKenzie Report."
While attending MSU, she met her future husband, Stan McKenzie of the Baltimore Bullets basketball team and later, the Phoenix Suns, Arizona. In Arizona, she worked for the "Arizona Republic" newspaper, and after returning to Baltimore, McKenzie transitioned to radio and television journalism hosting gospel programs on local radio stations. She also served as vice-president of programming at WJZ-TV station.
McKenzie finally walked away from journalism and enrolled at Howard University's Divinity School in Washington, D.C. where she earned a Master's degree followed by a Doctor of Ministry degree from Union Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio. In 1984, she was ordained a deacon and the following year, the pastor of Oak Street AME church in Baltimore. Being first has become commonplace for McKenzie. She was the first woman to pastor the Payne Memorial AME church in Baltimore, Maryland prior to becoming the first woman to be elected bishop in the 213-year history of the church in 2000 and also the first woman bishop to preside over the council of bishops, the governing body of the AME church.
During her tenure at Payne, McKenzie secured funds for a welfare-to-work program with the State of Maryland where approximately 600 men and women were educated, trained and placed in jobs, leaving the welfare system. In addition, she led the church to purchase a building and turned it into an economic development complex, with a senior-citizen center, a Headstart program and several other businesses. McKenzie was also active in organizing the Collective Banking Group of Baltimore, the Church Health Alliance and was president of the AME Ministerial Alliance.
Her first assignment as bishop placed her over the Eighteenth Episcopal District, which included Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, Mozambique and South Africa. There McKenzie embarked on a vigorous campaign to strengthen the district's infra-structure. She instituted an ambitious agenda creating computer labs, entrepreneurial projects, educational workshops for teachers, new classrooms and an increase in schools supplies, giving life and vigor to the school students.
After serving in Southern Africa, McKenzie moved to the Thirteenth Episcopal District covering Kentucky and Tennessee. She has authored several books including "Not Without Struggle" (1996) and "Strength in the Struggle." (2006).
Bishop Vashti and Stan McKenzie are the parents of three children: Jon-Mikael, Jasmine and Joi-Marie.Â
When Minister Ava Muhammad was appointed as the National Spokes-person for the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan that was a historic occasion and later on when he also appointed her to head a mosque that was doubly historic - historic with a capital 'H'. He has referred to her as "one of the most profound teachers of Islam in North America." Not only does she represent Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam in religious and spiritual matters, Muhammad also represents them in legal matters; she is a practicing attorney.
When Farrakhan appointed Muhammad to head Mosque No. 15 in Atlanta, and as Southern Regional Representative of the Nation of Islam, she said: "It is my fervent prayer that I succeed in my assignment, in order to help the Minister in his effort to destroy the myth that women are inferior beings who cannot preach the word or shepherd the flock. Through my appointment, Min. Farrakhan is manifesting the liberating force and power contained in the Teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad."
An eloquent speaker, a gifted researcher and a prolific writer, Muhammad has authored numerous books including "The Force and Power of Being," "Queen of the Planet Earth: The Rebirth and Rise of the Original Woman," "Real Love" and "A New Unit of Measurement." She is described as an attorney, author and theologian. The focus of her work is self-empowerment and she has been featured in Essence Magazine and is a frequent participant in the Essence Music Festival Empowerment Seminars.
During the Nation of Islam's annual Saviour's Day, Muhammad sometimes conducts workshops/seminars in addition, she is in great demand at churches, conferences, colleges and universities. Topics that she has addressed include:
• Reparations for Blacks: Who is Able to Prosecute This Case?"
• "The Role and Responsibility of Women in the Advancement of Society"
• "The Current State of Black America: How Will It Affect the Future of this Country?"
• "The Effect of the Media on the Minds of the American People"
• "The Role of the Woman in Islam"
Despite demands as a lecturer (speaking), minister (teaching) and author (writing), Muhammad still finds the time to maintain her legal practice. She received her law degree from Georgetown University School of Law, Washington, D.C. and is a member of the New York Bar Association.
In 1986, when the president placed a ban on American travel to Libya in 1986, Muhammad became involved as attorney for Farrakhan after he visited that country and news of a possible arrest surfaced. She also went after the New York Post newspaper when it printed disparaging comments against Farrakhan relative to the death of Minister Malcolm X; the incident triggered a defamation lawsuit against the newspaper. Ironically, Muhammad stands on the shoulders of both Malcolm X and Farrakhan as the national spokes-person of the Nation of Islam.
Muhammad is a member of the Muslim Girls Training (MGT) and is married to Darius Muhammad also of the Nation of Islam.
As pastor and founder of Bam Crawford Ministries (BCM), Pastor Beverly "Bam" Crawford has spent over 30 years pursuing Biblical studies and teaching. As senior pastor of Bible Enrichment Fellowship International in Inglewood, California, she delivers powerful life-changing messages cultivating hope and releasing the power to change, as a highly sought-after speaker, teacher and religious leader. She delivers her messages via Bam Crawford World Media Outreach and can be heard via her radio and television ministries, "The Trumpet Voice" and "Turn It Around," in addition to her website, her tapes, CDs, videos, music albums, seminars and conferences.
According to Crawford's website, visitors can partake from the following menu of options: The Vision; News & Events; First Time Visitors; Daily Devotional; Online Giving; Newsletter and Youth-Frontline Soldiers. A prolific author, her website complements her latest books: "The Power of The Soul - Part I, and Restoration of The Damaged Soul - Part II," both virtual manual designed to inspire, provoke and require the renewed mind to re-build back lives to complete wholeness.
Crawford displays a set of resources as a part of her outreach that deals with several relevant, community issues including HIV/AIDS Caring Community; Compassion In Action;
Vision of Life and Prison Advocacy; some of the outreach services overlap each other.
Vision of Life was developed to provide support for families affected or infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. We want to be a source of education, awareness and meet the growing needs of this community. AIDS is rampant in the community and as the life-threatening stage of the HIV disease, it is the diagnosis given to someone whose immune system has become so damaged that certain diseases (opportunistic infections) or cancers can develop. Crawford's community outreach is but another tool in the vast network of spiritual, emotional and medical needs that are making a small, yet significant dent, for those with little hope.
The Prison Advocacy of BCM assists ex-offenders and their families, by providing a place of confidentiality, where individuals can speak openly about the issues affecting their lives. The vast number of people incarcerated in American jails and prisons create fertile soil for Crawford's prison ministry program; the prison population has doubled in the last decade. She has sent teams into Los Padrinos, CIW (California Institute for Women), Camp Miller, Camp Kilpatrick, Camp Rocke, and Twin Towers, downtown Los Angeles.
L.A.M.P.S. (Leaders Apostolic Maturing & Mentoring Prophetic Servants/Seminars) is another one of Crawford's BCM programs and its purpose is to provide guidance, information, instruction, and fellowship for ministers and family members. According to information on the program, L.A.M.P.S. furnishes warmth and light for ministers who face challenging personal, family and marital situations and it promotes a kingdom lifestyle through renewed minds of Christ-likeness.
The BCM facility have a full service of community outreach programs and community development to promote social and economic change designed to benefit youth, senior citizens and small businesses.
Pastor Crawford has three children, and ten grand and God grandchildren.
Though she is well known as a gospel singer, when Shirley Caesar, the singer, decided to become Pastor Shirley Caesar, she returned to her birthplace, North Carolina, where she presently pastors a 1500-seat church in Raleigh. As a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc., Caesar has said that she never dreamed the Lord would bring her ministry to where it is and cites her mother as a strong influence in her decision to give so selflessly of herself. She donates a sizeable portion of all concert sales to her Outreach Ministries and annual conferences, and delivers weekly sermons wherever she happens to be especially on the Sabbath.
Growing up in North Carolina during the Jim-Crow era, gave Caesar a sense of positive self worth even though she went to school " when White kids got things better," including schools, books and teachers, and restaurants putting up their "closed" signs when she would arrive. Her mother taught her to respect herself and to persevere, and she did.
After attending North Carolina Central College where she studied business education, Caesar said, she got the call to God's work and believed it was a message for her to spread the gospel. Around the same time, she heard Chicago's female gospel group, the Caravans, one of the most popular gospel groups at that time, and saw an opportunity to answer the call. Caesar sought an audition with the group, was immediately hired, and left school for a life of singing and ministering the gospel.
Her career as a gospel singer was the foundation for her eventual pursuit in the pulpit of Mount Calvary Word of Faith Church which she co-pastors with her husband and where she often gives her congregation the 'gospel word' accompanied by 'gospel music'. She also conducts seminars and training for church leaders as a part of her pastoral duties in addition, her Sunday morning services become extravaganzas with Caesar as the officiating minister.
After decades in music and the ministry, Caesar's method of pasturing has become a unique tradition that has been described as a 'sermonette' of historic proportions where she spews the gospel with 'fire and brimstone' to floor-stomping and hand-clapping cadences of a mistress of the word. According to one of her congregation, "Her exhortative qualities is pure gospel heaven for traditionalist devotees of the genre - a vocal showstopper and rock-solid performance that demonstrates that her celebrated 'pipes' have not diminished one iota." Caesar is still a great Biblical storyteller and a much sought after Evangelist and psalmist.
Pastor Caesar has been married to her husband, Bishop Harold Williams for 27 years.
After Rev. Della Reese finished one of her gospel musical CDs, she said in part, ... "I see Gospel Music and the profoundness of both its lyrical and emotional content as being able to and worthy of standing on its own. I Thank God that He has blessed me with the resources and the producer/arranger (TC Campbell), who saw it and felt about it as I do. This CD is a love project I offer it for all of its attributes, its musical arrangements, its magnificent emotional value, and its dynamic lyrics of truth."
As the co-founder of Spiritual Icon Records, Reese began singing in church when she was six years old and at 13, she was hired by the late Mahalia Jackson to sing with her group. Later, while majoring in psychology at Wayne State University, in Detroit, Reese formed her own female gospel group, "The Meditation Singers", which is listed in the "Who's Who of Gospel Music".
Reese was ordained as a minister by the Universal Foundation for Better Living (UFBL), an organization of twenty-two member churches and study groups worldwide. Affectionately called Rev. Della, she took the message from UFBL and founded Understanding Principles for Better Living Church (UPBLC) in Los Angeles, California. Her lesson/sermons, based upon the teachings of Jesus Christ, give all who are seeking practical ways to learn and apply the Principles that, if put into practice, will allow them to have a better life.
Since the 1950s, Resse has been a fixture in the entertainment world: movies, television, concerts and recordings with an equal amount of success in each genre. She was the first female to host "The Tonight Show" and to host her own talk show, "Della", (making her the first Black woman to host her own show); it was nationally in 1969-70.
In her role as a reverend, Reese is as fastidious as she has been in other areas of her multi-faceted career. She is a Doctoral Degree Graduate Of the University of Metaphysics and was honored with a Lifetime Achievement Award for her contributions to the Spirituality Of The Planet by conducting her own ministry of many years, while also contributing through such inspirational roles as In "Touched By An Angel ".
Reese complements her spiritual duties with many different outreach programs. She penned her autobiography, "Angels Along the Way" in 1997 to great reviews and also did a children's book, "The God Inside Of Me", one of the best-selling children's books in 1999. In addition, she has her own fashion line on The Home Shopping Network._ As an ordained minister, Reese gives excellent 'Life Lessons' every Sunday to a capacity audience and her church can be found on the Internet as 'upchurch.org' , a non-denominational, multi-racial gathering studying and living by the teachings of Jesus Christ, our Savior.
In her ministerial work, she is known as Rev. Dr. Della Reese-Lett; she is married to Franklin Lett.


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JON CARDINELLI, writing in SA Rugby magazine, says while the Test nations up north are coming to terms with the new law interpretations, the club structures and mentality will forever contrast the philosophy down south.
Fancy a challenge? Find an Englishman who covets the glamorous Super Rugby competition over the gritty European Cup. Try telling a Frenchman there's more passion in the NPC than in the Top 14. And prepare to be klapped if you tell a South African the Celtic League is more intense than the Currie Cup.
Passion underscores the support of franchise, provincial and club rugby the world over. Because there's no crossover tournament where the best teams are measured, we're faced with a situation where each hemisphere believes it's streets ahead of the other.
At international level, there's a clear frontrunner. Not only have the southern superpowers won the World Cup five out of a possible six times, but their record between global tournaments speaks for itself. As a collective, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa have enjoyed an 86% win ratio over the Six Nations teams (including the British & Irish Lions) since November 2007.
But at club level, how do you pit a competition like Super Rugby against the European Cup? There are no crossover games and thus no related statistics upon which to gauge a response. You'll find the never-ending stream of hypothetical talk is rooted in parochialism, as even the most objective of observers, including respected commentators and former players, lobby for their own regions as the world's best.
In search of an informed and fair viewpoint, SA Rugby magazine has canvassed the opinion of players and coaches with experience in both hemispheres. There are a number of reasons why the debate is futile, given the differences in conditions, mentality, standard of professionalism and structure. And yet, there's a growing need to set the record straight; the need for a future competition that could eventually displace one-sided Tests and recapture the imagination of the global community.
So why can't you theoretically compare the two regions in determining the superior sector? For starters, the conditions prescribe the respective styles of play. The north is typically wet and soft underfoot from October to March. There may be some running rugby played in the months preceding and following this period, but tactics are largely tailored to the conditions. Super Rugby is completed before the onset of the southern winter and so clear conditions and hard surfaces are enjoyed.
There's something more, however, that prevents the northern clubs from embracing a free-flowing game. In Europe tradition may be viewed as a virtue, but in many ways it's inhibiting the development of the northern game, as Eddie Jones, a former Saracens director of rugby, suggests.
'In explaining the attitude, I like to draw a parallel with cricket,' he says. 'If you compare the England cricket side to teams like Australia and South Africa, England have always been more conservative whereas Australia and South Africa tend to be more attacking. Society does play a role in the brand of sport played in a particular country, and rugby is no exception.'
Springbok assistant coach Gary Gold has coached at London Irish, and is well-placed to comment on the northern philosophy. Gold points to the promotion-relegation nature of European rugby as a reason for why some clubs shun a more attacking, and ultimately riskier, approach.
'The mentality is not to lose, and there's a massive emphasis on defence,' Gold says. 'There's a belief that if you can form a rock-solid defence, you can eventually use that to squeeze teams, force turnovers, and score points to win games. The message you're sending to opposition teams is, "Have a go, but we will turn you over".
'There are exceptions, though. Saracens have changed dramatically over the past couple of seasons. They used to be very conservative, but they've become more attacking recently. Most of the English clubs haven't caught up yet. Munster also have a reputation as a side that can attack, and come to think of it, a lot of the recent European Cup winners have won playing attacking rugby.'
While the Currie Cup may employ its own version of the promotion-relegation format, Super Rugby teams operate without fear of top-flight banishment. This may change in years to come, as Saru looks to accommodate a sixth South African franchise if there's no further expansion. If the Kings are promoted at the expense of South Africa's worst-placed team, it could impact negatively on how our franchises approach the game.
Jones agrees that most northern teams are inhibited by relegation prospects, and believes that their conservative mindset is a stumbling block when it comes to adapting to new trends. The current law interpretations encourage quick ball and free-flowing rugby, and while a Test side like England have at times played with inspiration and purpose, it'll be a while before the entire region joins the revolution.
'If we stick with these laws, teams like England and France will catch up,' says Jones. 'They have the volume of players to make a good fist of it, and in two to three years' time, they will be an attacking threat. The laws will force them to be more attacking, which will in turn filter down into their club system.'
Schalk Brits, a former Springbok hooker currently playing for Saracens, says we shouldn't expect the northern teams to abandon the traditional ways just yet. European rugby is acknowledged for its forward-oriented, no-nonsense style, and the fact that it's an environment conducive to the front-row fracas attracts tight-five players from around the globe.
'Some people have asked me if I've lost my spark and why I'm not as flashy as I used to be,' says Brits. 'The truth is the conditions and tactics make it impossible at times. You come up here to learn your scrumming, but it's almost a different game. In Super Rugby, the ref won't let a scrum last that long, but in the north, you see refs allowing a dominant team to scrum the opposition from one side of the park to the other.'
Brits' comments reveal how the philosophy is embraced by all parts of the northern rugby community, be it the players, coaches or even the referees. The set phase is viewed as the be-all and end-all, rather than the launching pad it is down south.
Ross Skeate, who enjoyed an 18-month stint at Top 14 side Toulon before signing with the Sharks in mid-2010, believes the northern culture is immensely different to the one experienced in the Sanzar nations. Trench warfare is celebrated by the close-knit communities in France. The linebreaks and offloads typical of Super Rugby don't bring the locals in as much as the prospect of a slow, grinding battle between two hardened packs.
'The set phase is everything, and refs seem to base their interpretations on that. There's not much encouragement of an expansive game. That's why the image of French flair can be a bit misleading,' says Skeate.
The standard of refereeing in France is abysmal compared to that of the UK and Ireland. It can adversely affect the flow, and since there are no professional officials in France, the term 'adapting to the referee' takes on new meaning.
'I know they love to moan about refs down south, but they have it lucky,' says Brits. 'It can be very difficult when you play a French club in France and the crowd is baying for your blood. There's an even greater focus on the scrum and the breakdown in a tournament like the European Cup. Those are two grey areas at the best of times, but when there are more set pieces and rucks and the officiating isn't great, the game obviously isn't the same.'
There are, however, areas where the south just can't compete with the north.
'Technically, you can't compare rugby in the two hemispheres,' says Gold. 'Because of the level of professionalism in other European sporting codes like soccer and rugby league, the systems and techniques are already available for rugby union to utilise.
'The personnel and coaches from league can also apply their minds to union, as there are so many similarities. Organisations like the [English] RFU feed the clubs all the new interventions and a host of specialist coaches are at the clubs' disposal, from lineout throwing consultants to kicking coaches.'
It would be unfair to interpret this as a shortcoming, as results will indicate that the southern Test nations are performing for all their perceived lack of structure and support. Similarly, it's hard to say the northern clubs are wrong for sticking with the traditional ways if it still brings them success within their own club competitions.
What we are interested in knowing is which region is stronger domestically. Unless there's a move to stage a spectacle like the Bulls vs Toulouse, the reigning Super Rugby and European Cup champions, or even an extended world club tournament featuring four of the best from each region, we'll simply never know.
'There's strong support for the way the game is played in the south and strong support for the way the game is played in the north,' says Jones. 'Nobody wants to play out of season, and I don't think a global season will ever come about.
'As far as club rugby is concerned, we should take a cue from soccer and get the champions from each tournament together. It may not offer conclusive proof about which hemisphere is best, but to see a team like Toulouse tackling the Bulls would be an awesome spectacle.
'That is where we are headed as the game becomes more professional. The top nations want to play more Tests, but eventually the powers that be will realise there's far more value in a game featuring the Bulls and Toulouse than a country ranked No 3 and
one ranked No 14.'
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