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Topic: Gay & Straight (Read 22086 times)
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The ancient Greeks and homosexuality...
Reply #50 on:
March 12, 2013, 12:39:26 PM »
The author of this article is both cherry-picking quotations from the ancient Greeks, ignoring the large body of artwork by them which often depicts sexual intercourse between males, and is essentially contorting himself to make his argument. It is true that the concept of a homosexual life-long union recognized by the state did not exist until very recently. That certainly does NOT make it "unnatural." While I have my reservations about gay "marriage" as opposed to civil unions, ultimately the state should not be involved in granting licenses for marriage at all, nor was it until very recently. Nor was there the issue of treatment for tax purposes.
Homosexual behavior has now been observed and verified in 100s of animal species, and in many cases these male-male pairings last for life. Ask any farmer, and he will tell you that there are 'homosexual" bulls, goats and sheep, who prefer to have intercourse with the same sex, and show very little if any interest in the opposite sex. This notion of the behavior being "unnatural" is simply false - and it is used in a tortuous manner to justify prohibiting such relationships by those who want to do so for whatever reasons, just as there were plenty of Biblical justifications offered to justify slavery, up until quite recently.
I take my own life experience as a great teacher, and include in this what I have observed over my 50+ years on this earth. Anthropologists will tell you that the percentage of homosexual individuals in human society has remained constant for as long as history has been recorded on such things. Animal data appear to show that this is also true in other species. If this were a genetic defect or aberration, by the way, one would expect that it would be bred out of the population over time. It clearly has not been. These tortuous justifications for condemning homosexuality are tiresome.
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Re: Gay & Straight
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March 12, 2013, 01:02:05 PM »
Not intending to be tiresome, offered more in the spirit of the offerrings contrary to the tidal wave with which the pravdas and the progressives seek to innundate us that endeavor to engage the discussion on a more serious level. I agree that the piece does do some cherry pickings and certainly you make valid points.
" ultimately the state should not be involved in granting licenses for marriage at all, nor was it until very recently. Nor was there the issue of treatment for tax purposes."
Now this is an interesting point and I invite you to flesh it out further.
What did marriage look like before the state was involved?
When and why did the state become involved?
What would removing the state from marriage look like now?
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Re: Gay & Straight
Reply #52 on:
March 12, 2013, 02:43:48 PM »
Also looking forward to discussion on the questions Crafty posed.
Happily married people ask how the gay marriage issue could possibly affect their marriage. Obj's proposal illuminates that. First we define marriage to not mean marriage, then make it unrecognized altogether.
The federal government is already shifting to parent-one, parent-two designations, removing recognition of basic natural phenomena like mother and father as fast as they can. Why only two parents or spouses, politicians and bureaucrats only know.
Like Barack Obama, my own thinking has evolved. Somewhere between 2 and 3% of people are gay. Condemnation of that is not helpful. Everyone has the right of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
Denying the unique relationship of a man and a woman becoming husband and wife is not helpful either. Nor is dropping a societal preference that a child have a mother and a father in love, married and living under one roof whenever possible.
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Re: Gay & Straight
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March 26, 2013, 09:58:15 AM »
Hoping the questions I posed will receive your attention , , ,
Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 09:29:29 PM by Crafty_Dog
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Privatize marriage - It was so until the mid-1800s...
Reply #54 on:
March 27, 2013, 07:50:32 PM »
I think this will go a long way toward addressing your questions:
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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Privatize marriage - part 2...
Reply #55 on:
March 27, 2013, 07:52:57 PM »
Here is another good blog post, and hilarious but very valid comedy routine on this very topic (video not safe for kids):
"You have enemies? Good. That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.
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And then there is this...
Reply #56 on:
March 27, 2013, 08:00:29 PM »
From a straight, quite conservative Christian pastor in Wisconsin who has been arguing against getting a state marriage license for over 13 years now:
You should not have to obtain a license from the State to marry someone anymore than you should have to obtain a license from the State to be a parent, which some in academic and legislative circles are currently pushing to be made law.
When I marry a couple, I always buy them a Family Bible which contains birth and death records, and a marriage certificate. We record the marriage in the Family Bible. Whats recorded in a Family Bible will stand up as legal evidence in any court of law in America. Early Americans were married without a marriage license. They simply recorded their marriages in their Family Bibles. So should we.
(Pastor Trewhella has been marrying couples without marriage licenses for ten years. Many other pastors also refuse to marry couples with State marriage licenses.)
This pamphlet is not comprehensive in scope. Rather, the purpose of this pamphlet is to make you think and give you a starting point to do further study of your own. If you would like an audio sermon regarding this matter, just send a gift of at least five dollars in cash to: Mercy Seat Christian Church 10240 W. National Ave. PMB #129 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227.
Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 08:04:45 PM by objectivist1
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Re: Gay & Straight
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March 27, 2013, 09:55:31 PM »
Good discussion Obj.
Question (NOT an argument pretending to be a question!):
What about the notion that government has a role in protecting those who cannot protect themselves? Hypothetical: Traditional type marriage, dad works, mom focuses on the home and the young children. Mom is relying upon Husband's promise to provide for her and the children. Now he decides to run off with his secretary with the big, perky tits.
Under the framework you are advocating, what, if anything, is to be done?
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Re: Gay & Straight
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March 28, 2013, 10:51:09 AM »
In answer to your question - action could easily be brought in civil court, and in fact was before marriage licenses were invented. The family Bible, with the signatures of the married persons and two witnesses (or separate contract that was generally kept in the Bible or in the case of Jews - Torah) was recognized as legally binding by every state in the Union.
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Re: Gay & Straight
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March 28, 2013, 11:03:26 AM »
What law would the court apply?
What proof of marriage in the absence of a signed family bible/Torah?
What about polygamy? Group marriage? (multiple men/women) Gay/Lesbian relationships?
This makes sense to me:
Over the past two days, the Supreme Court has been considering whether to overturn two duly enacted pieces of legislation the federal Defense of Marriage Act and a California constitutional amendment on the basis of novel theories about the Fourteenth Amendment that had occurred to almost nobody until quite recently. It should let the laws stand.
In the California case, a popular referendum ratifying the definition of marriage as the union of a man and a woman is said to violate the Constitutions guarantee that states will extend the equal protection of the laws to all persons, including those persons in same-sex couples who wish to have the state government declare their relationships to be marriages.
Equality means that like cases should be treated alike. Whether Californias definition of marriage meets that standard depends on whether or not there is some difference between opposite-sex and same-sex couples that justifies recognizing some of the former and none of the latter as marriages in the eyes of the law. The answer to that question in turn depends on what we understand marriage to be.
It turns, that is, on whether marriage should be understood to have an ineradicable connection to procreation or be understood exclusively in romantic terms. If the basic purpose of marriage as a pre-political institution and a public policy is to channel heterosexual behavior into the social forms most likely to lead to stable child-rearing, as we believe, then it makes sense that its definition includes sexual complementarity and involves no invidious discrimination. Many people do not, of course, accept this premise, and they have advanced various arguments against it.
The Constitution is silent obviously silent about which side is correct, and that is reason enough for the Court to allow California to decide the matter as it wishes, which of course means to allow it to change its mind. The Court should forthrightly declare that the Constitution gives it no authority to choose one side or the other. It should reject calls for it to punt by ruling that defenders of the law have no standing to plead their case, which would have the effect of allowing lower-court judges to write same-sex marriage into the Constitution for their jurisdictions.
Justice Scalia neatly exposed the weak spot of the argument that the Constitution requires same-sex marriage when he asked Ted Olson, a lawyer making that argument, when that requirement came about. Olson declined to make the ludicrous contention that the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868 was the publics way of advancing same-sex marriage. That left him arguing that the evolution of the culture had changed the meaning of the amendment. Public views on homosexuality and marriage certainly have changed: But that change can be and has been expressed in the votes of citizens and legislators.
The other case before the Court is a challenge to the provision of the Defense of Marriage Act that defines marriage, for purposes of federal law, as the union of a man and a woman. Here the challengers make an argument beyond their equal-protection claim. The federal government is supposedly infringing on the states power to set marriage laws by insisting on its own definition in its own laws.
One would think that to state that claim is to refute it, but Justice Kennedy showed signs of crediting it. The act leaves states free to adopt any marriage law they want. The Constitution does not compel the federal government to use the states definitions in its own laws, although it may decide to do that as a matter of administrative convenience. If the federal government has the power to designate some households in tax laws as joint filers which no one contests then it has the power to say which households, and so long as its classifications are compatible with the Constitution it cannot matter if they track state law. Federalism does not, in other words, mean that state governments have the right to force federal law to change to their liking. Chief Justice Roberts exposed the emptiness of this federalism argument when he asked whether the federal government would invade the province of the states by extending marriage-related federal benefits to all cohabiting same-sex couples in all states, even those that recognize no such couples as married or even in a civil union. The opponents of DOMA were appropriately flummoxed by the question.
In both cases, the Court should leave lawmaking authorities to do their will. We oppose same-sex marriage, but in the absence of a constitutional amendment enshrining our view it would be wrong for the Supreme Court to block it and nobody has ever argued otherwise. Proponents of same-sex marriage feel no such inhibitions. The Supreme Court should be more dispassionate.
Last Edit: March 28, 2013, 12:01:39 PM by Crafty_Dog
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Re: Gay & Straight
Reply #60 on:
March 28, 2013, 12:48:29 PM »
Crafty - I don't know the civil law code by heart, but a good friend who is an Atlanta cop (and a libertarian) told me that the law is enforced against men who won't pay child support in the 'hood here all the time - they go to jail. And the overwhelming majority of these people are not married. The same principle would apply.
Same-sex civil unions could be formed with a contract. As for polygamy - not sure what the issue is here. The state could outlaw it - which I think is bad policy - but if it were legal - the same principle would apply. The state should not be granting "permission" for people to form sexual/romantic relationships with one another. It's contrary to the concept of liberty as our Founders understood it. I might also point out that there are multiple references to polygamous marriages in the Torah - evidently at that time it was sanctioned by God, as the Israelites understood Him.
I am often vexed by the church/synagogue authorities decreeing that this, that or the other is "sinful" according to their arbitrary judgement, and then decreeing to their flocks that their pronouncement be taken as "gospel." Evidently only THEY have the ability to discern "what God really meant" in Scripture. Jesus was extremely critical of this very behavior, and often spoke out against it.
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What do we make of this?
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May 20, 2013, 04:46:35 PM »
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Ex-gay ministry calls it quits and apologizes
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June 20, 2013, 12:45:29 PM »
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Re: Gay & Straight
Reply #63 on:
June 25, 2013, 10:39:06 AM »
FWIW, on the issue of the genetics of gayness, I think there are some people who are born that way and some whose life experiences affect how they turn out.
Memo to Lady Gaga: born this way doesnt mean act this way
Daniel Kuebler | 25 June 2013
A growing laissez-faire libertarian attitude toward social issues among Americans is arguably the most important weapon available to same-sex marriage advocates. Certainly there are LGBT militants with unwavering commitment to the issue, but the vast majority of those who support same-sex marriage can hardly be said to support anything. They just have a hard time saying no. They much prefer the sanitary hands off approachlet them live out their sexuality as long as I dont have to get involved.
This laissez-faire attitude is often coupled with a heavy dose of biological determinism, which bestows a tacit scientific stamp of approval on any and all types of sexual behavior. Consider Lady Gagas popular song, Born this Way, in which she sings, Cause baby, you were born this way, no matter gay, straight or bi, lesbian, transgendered. She then encourages people to, among other things, embrace whatever sexual proclivities they have inherited.
The underlying message is that we as a society should just accept any and all manifestations of sexual orientation and sexual behavior because people are merely acting upon their God-given biological inclinations. The end result for those saturated in this cultural marinade is that they are afraid to refuse the designation of marriage to same-sex couples who are only doing what comes naturally to them.
There are two problems with this type of reasoning. First, its questionable whether sexual orientation is biologically determined. Second, even if genetic and developmental factors cause one to have same-sex attractions, it does not follow that ones biology should determine ones behavior, much less dictate ones morality.
In the last twenty years, scientific research has failed to generate a consensus on the exact relationship between biological factors and same-sex attractions. But there is general agreement that genetic/developmental factors do have an influence.
In fact, there is good evidence that genetic and/or developmental alterations can lead to homosexual behaviors in animals ranging from fruit flies to rams. Genetic manipulations in fruit flies, for example, have produced female flies that display courtship to other females and males that display courtship to other males. Similar results have been found in mice, with one recent studyshowing that removing a single gene in females causes them to attempt to copulate with other females and to exhibit other male-specific behaviors.
Studies with rams have found that changes in pre-natal exposure totestosterone can cause structural changes in specific sexually dimorphic brain regions, changes that have been linked to homosexual behaviors.
While it seems clear that some animals can be born this way, things are much more ambiguous in humans. For starters, human sexual inclinations are much more complex and nuanced, as evidenced by the broad continuum of human sexual orientations and behaviors. Because of this, social scientists lack a clear consensus on what exactly it means to be gay, bisexual, or lesbian. Not only is sexual orientation in humans difficult to pin downshould anyone who has homosexual thoughts be considered gayit is notoriously fluid, as an individuals identification as gay, bisexual, or heterosexual often changes repeatedly over time. Both of these points are argued persuasively by psychiatrist Paul McHugh in his amicus brief to the Supreme Court in the Hollingsworth case.
Given these complexities, it should not be surprising that studies looking for a biological cause for homosexuality in humans have been equivocal, leaving plenty of room for social and environmental factors to influence sexual preference.
For example, no gene has yet been definitively linked to homosexuality. While some studies have found genes or chromosome regions that may be linked, follow up studies have reported contradictory results.
There is stronger evidence that developmental factors can influence homosexual behavior, but even here there are caveats. Women who have congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) are exposed to higher levels of male sex hormones in utero and have a higher propensity to exhibit homosexual behavior as adults. Still, the majority of these women are heterosexual and only a small minority of CAH females is exclusively homosexual, indicating that other factors, most likely social ones, are at work.
Likewise, there is evidence that having an older brother increases the likelihood of homosexuality in boys. Researchers hypothesize that the mother produces an immune response to male-specific antigens in the first pregnancy, a response that can disrupt normal development in later male pregnancies. Again though, most men with an older brother are heterosexual and many homosexual men have no older brothers, so this hypothesis is limited in scope.
Consequently, its not clear whether all people with homosexual inclinations, or even the majority, are born that way or if social and environmental factors shape their attractions. But even if one were to grant, in the face of ambiguous evidence, that Lady Gaga is right, it doesnt follow that such behavior should be promoted and sanctioned by codifying same-sex marriage into law.
We are not at the mercy of our biology. This is what sets humans apart from the other animals. In a recent op-ed in the New York Times, titled Natures Case for Same Sex Marriage, biologist David Haskell claims that homosexuality is natural in the trivial sense that homosexual activity occurs in nature. Yet, after highlighting the homosexual behavior of pygmy chimps and mallard ducks in an attempt to soften the resistance to same-sex marriage, Haskell had the good sense to realize that animal behavior does not provide [us] ready-made moral guidance. He could have made this even clearer by discussing the fact that chimps and orangutans satisfy their biological urge for reproductive dominance via rape and/or infanticide.
As primates, our sexual behavior is certainly influenced by our biology (this is true regardless of our sexual orientation). Yet the mere fact that we have a biological urge or tendency does not give us justification to act on it.
In fact, the legal and social framework of civil society is structured by the premise that we should keep our biologically-driven desires in check or channel them for the sake of the common good. For example, males have a biological tendencyits in our genetic make-upto find pornography titillating. That doesnt mean that our society should promote it or encourage its use. Evidence suggests that pornography use hurts our ability to form the stable committed relationships necessary to a productive, well-ordered society. Thus society has laws (though they are ever being eroded) that limit and restrict where pornography can be displayed and who can view it.
Likewise, the unfettered expression of the male sex drive, particularly by men who claim to have a biologically heightened appetite (addiction) to sex, is hardly beneficial to society. Just ask any kid growing up fatherless or any single mother abandoned by her childs father. To prevent or mitigate these effects, our society has laws to counter these natural biological urges, laws against adultery, even though they are no longer enforced, and laws that require child support and alimony payments.
Clearly, having a biological predisposition or urge does not justify pursuing it, let alone justify promoting it as a society. The same holds true for same-sex marriage. Even if we eventually decipher a clear biological explanation for homosexual inclinations, we need to have a respectful debate about whether promoting and encouraging people to act on them benefits society as a whole.
In the case of same-sex marriage, there is an acute need for both open discussion and clear investigation of how promoting homosexual inclinations would influence the family, especially parenting. Unfortunately, most Americans avoid this kind of debate, because they have swallowed laissez-faire libertarianism and biological determinism, and because LGBT activists actively prevent the debate from unfolding.
Daniel Kuebler is Professor of Biology at Franciscan University of Steubenville. This article has been republished from MercatorNet's partner site Public Discourse.
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Twin Studies prove homosexuality is not/need not be genetic
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July 25, 2013, 10:00:10 AM »
This seems to be scientifically significant to me:
Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic
June 24, 2013
Identical Twin Studies Prove Homosexuality is Not Genetic
by Mark Ellis -
Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.
At best genetics is a minor factor, says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.
Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions. If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.
Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%, Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.
Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. No-one is born gay, he notes. The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.
The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.
Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by non-shared factors, things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.
For example, one twin might have exposure to pornography or sexual abuse, but not the other. One twin may interpret and respond to their family or classroom environment differently than the other. These individual and idiosyncratic responses to random events and to common environmental factors predominate, he says.
The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.
Twin registers are the foundation of modern twin studies. They are now very large, and exist in many countries. A gigantic European twin register with a projected 600,000 members is being organized, but one of the largest in use is in Australia, with more than 25,000 twins on the books.
A significant twin study among adolescents shows an even weaker genetic correlation. In 2002 Bearman and Brueckner studied tens of thousands of adolescent students in the U.S. The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for femaleslower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000.
In the identical twin studies, Dr. Whitehead has been struck by how fluid and changeable sexual identity can be.
Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. About half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.
Sexual orientation is not set in concrete, he notes.
Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.
Even more remarkable, most of the changes occur without counseling or therapy. These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen naturally in life, some very quickly, Dr. Whitehead observes. Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.
Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive heterosexuality are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and homosexuals combined. In other words, ex-gays outnumber actual gays.
The fluidity is even more pronounced among adolescents, as Bearman and Brueckners study demonstrated. They found that from 16 to 17-years-old, if a person had a romantic attraction to the same sex, almost all had switched one year later.
The authors were pro-gay and they commented that the only stability was among the heterosexuals, who stayed the same year after year. Adolescents are a special casegenerally changing their attractions from year to year.
Still, many misconceptions persist in the popular culture. Namely, that homosexuality is genetic so hard-wired into ones identity that it cant be changed. The academics who work in the field are not happy with the portrayals by the media on the subject, Dr. Whitehead notes. But they prefer to stick with their academic research and not get involved in the activist side.
Last Edit: July 25, 2013, 10:09:34 AM by Crafty_Dog
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Russian hate crimes
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Some of what we know isn't so
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The Left Isn't Pro-Gay - It's Pro-Power...
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April 07, 2014, 08:19:24 AM »
The Left Isnt Pro-Gay Its Pro-Power
Posted By Daniel Greenfield On April 7, 2014 @ frontpagemag.com
Libertarians and liberal Republicans have been proposing a truce on social issues in order to be able to concentrate on fiscal issues, but there is no such thing as a truce on any issue with the left.
Brendan Eich offered the left a truce on gay marriage. He talked about tolerance and diversity and he got his head handed to him. His forced departure from the Mozilla Foundation, which is behind the Firefox browser, should be a wake up call to anyone on the right who still thinks that social issues can be taken off the table and that we can all agree to disagree.
Those on the right who insist that conservatism should be reduced to fiscal issues imagine that the culture war is a fight that the right picked with the left. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The left does not care about gay marriage. In most left-wing regimes, homosexuality was persecuted. It was illegal in the USSR. Gay men were locked up in Cuba and are still targeted in China. Nicolas Maduro, the current hero of the left, openly uses homophobic language without any criticism from his Western admirers. It goes without saying that homosexuality is criminalized throughout the Muslim world.
Engels viewed homosexuality as a perversion born out of the bourgeois way of life that would be eliminated under socialism. The Revolutionary Communist Party of the United States stated that homosexuality is a product of the decay of capitalism and vowed that once the revolution took place, a struggle will be waged to eliminate it and reform homosexuals.
The lefts shift on this issue, as on many issues, was purely tactical. The lefts leading lights were racists who jumped into civil rights. They were sexists who became feminists. They were advocates for the working class who despised the idea of working for a living.
The culture war does not emerge from the lefts deeply held beliefs. Its leaders could care less about the things that they pretend to care about. It emerges instead from the need to maintain a constant state of domestic conflict.
You cant have a truce when the other side wants a war.
Did the activists who claimed Eichs scalp care about him or his $1,000 donation to defend marriage? Theyre already forgetting his name and moving on to the next target. Eich just happened to make a good target. The Mozilla Foundation is shaky, its board was insecure, and once an online dating company cynically came out with a publicity stunt to keep the news cycle churning, the scalp of the man behind Javascript was claimed. If he had hung on for another few days, the whole thing would have gone away.
Next week it will be someone else. And then the week after that.
Opting out of the conflict means standing by while men like Eich are torn down, not because they did anything wrong, but because destroying them allows the left to feel the thrill of its power over people.
Every gang needs to hurt and terrorize people in order to feel its power. Unlike a Chicago street gang which goes in for an honest mugging or beating, the online activists of the left do their dirty work in this way. Afterward there is no blood and there are no bruises, but lives are destroyed and its social justice activists chortle to themselves coming off an adrenaline high before going after someone else.
The purpose of these purges is not to make the country more tolerant, but to make it more afraid. The message of the Eich purge is not, accept gay marriage, its dont question us. As many have pointed out, Eich had the same view of gay marriage at the time he made that donation as Obama and Hillary.
But Eich wasnt us. He wasnt a member of the club.
Members of the club can and do make racist jokes. They can oppose gay marriage. They can sexually harass female employees, pay them less and even kill them. They can do all these things because the club is not about gay marriage or equal rights for race or gender.
Its about the supreme power of the club.
You can call the club, liberalism, progressivism or simply the left. You can call its members Marxists, Socialists or anything else you like. They go by many names, some real and some fake, but they are the club; a totalitarian organization dedicated to absolute power in the name of any available lie.
The left is a totalitarian movement that inverts everything it touches. It fights against poverty by making more men poor. It helps black people by keeping them down, and it promotes tolerance through displays of intolerance. Its endgame is simply raw power. It wants as much of it as it can get its hands on.
We can stand aside, but it will affect us sooner or later. Even if we dont get picked to be the teachable moment of the day, we will find ourselves in a country that is less free and more oppressive every year.
The idea that any part of the lefts agenda can be delinked and ignored is wishful thinking. The lefts incessant accusations of racism show that the refusal to engage an issue does not take it off the table. Its the left that determines the content and the context of the conflict. And thats why the right is losing. It imagines that it can unilaterally retreat to more favorable ground.
Thats a strategy that has yet to work.
The left doesnt do truces. If the right cedes gay marriage, all it will have won is the right to be called homophobes for the next hundred years. And the culture war will move on to the next issue and the one after that. The purges will continue and more criminals guilty of thought crimes will be paraded for the virtual cameras. Yesterdays commonplace idea will be tomorrows act of unspeakable bigotry that prevents you from being employed, opening a business or even staying out of prison.
You may be in the clear today, but you wont be tomorrow.
Wars arent won by constantly retreating. Theyre won by taking a stand for what you believe in.
The left constantly takes stands, but it believes in nothing. Like all totalitarian movements, it worships at the feet of the bronze bull of power. It believes in the virtue of its outrage, the might of its rhetoric and the pleasure of trampling an enemy underfoot. Every one of its beliefs are baseless and expendable in the name of its true god of power.
The right has sold its moral birthright in the hopes of being tolerated by a movement with no morals or beliefs except in the virtue of its own intolerance. It strategically embraces the lefts ideas and hopes that this process will eventually lead to a truce.
It cant and it wont.
The left does not hate the right because of gay marriage. It does not hate the right because it thinks that the right is racist, sexist, transphobic, semaphoric or plasmatic. It hates the right because it is not of the left. The right stands in the way of its absolute power. These two things are enough to be hated.
Totalitarian movements are destructive. They feed off conflict and desire absolute power. They cannot be compromised with, reasoned with or appeased. Instead they have to be exposed for what they are.
The only way to beat a totalitarian movement is to expose the dirty little secret that it is not pro-black, pro-gay, pro-woman or pro anything except pro-power. It is a greedy, corrupt and selfish movement that does not stand for a better world tomorrow, but for unlimited abuses of power in the world today.
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"I walk between"
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April 16, 2014, 07:52:42 AM »
A gay Christian married to a woman writes of his experience , , ,
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Two lesbian mothers submit 8 year old boy to female hormone treatment
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Much ado aboaut sex, nothing to do with race
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marriage-raceA mixed race couple demonstrating for gay marriage hold up a sign saying, Once our marriage was once illegal too.
Is that a just comparison? Is opposition to same-sex marriage at all like opposition to inter-racial marriage? Does protecting the freedom to speak and act publicly on the basis of a religious belief that marriage is the union of a man and woman amount to the kind of laws that banned inter-racial marriage?
No, and no, says Ryan Anderson, a US expert on the marriage issue, in a background paper published by the Heritage Foundation. First, because the belief that marriage is a man-woman union is a reasonable belief, and second, because when they lead their lives and run their businesses in accordance with that belief, citizens deny no-one equality before the law.
A reasonable belief...
Great thinkers throughout human historyand from every political community up until the year 2000thought it reasonable to view marriage as the union of male and female, husband and wife, mother and father. Indeed, support for marriage as the union of man and woman has been a near human universal.
This view is based on human nature and what marriage is for:
The conclusion that marriage is the union of man and woman follows from a proper understanding of human nature. Rightly understood, marriage is a comprehensive union. It unites spouses at all levels of their being: hearts, minds, and bodies, where man and woman form a two-in-one-flesh union. It is based on the anthropological truth that men and women are distinct and complementary, on the biological fact that reproduction requires a man and a woman, and on the sociological reality that children benefit from having a mother and a father.4
Historically, even where homosexuality was accepted the idea of same-sex marriage did not arise:
Far from having been devised as a pretext for excluding same-sex relationshipsas some now chargemarriage as the union of husband and wife arose in many places over several centuries entirely independent of and well before any debates about same-sex relationships. Indeed, it arose in cultures that had no concept of sexual orientation and in some that fully accepted homoeroticism and even took it for granted.
The idea that different races should not marry came late in history and arises from prejudice, not reason:
Searching the writings of Plato and Aristotle, Augustine and Aquinas, Maimonides and Al-Farabi, Luther and Calvin, Locke and Kant, Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., one finds that the sexual union of male and female goes to the heart of their reflections on marriage but that considerations of race with respect to marriage never appear. Only late in human history does one see political communities prohibiting intermarriage on the basis of race. Bans on interracial marriage had nothing to do with the nature of marriage and everything to do with denying dignity and equality before the law.
These laws were virtually unique to America and were driven by the view that black slaves were neither citizens nor persons. The laws had nothing to do with the nature of marriage, but were based on errors about the human nature and dignity of black persons.
Laws that define marriage as the union of one man and one woman are not unjust, like the laws that prevented inter-racial marriage. To decide whether a marriage law is just or unjust you have to know what marriage is:
Marriage must be color-blind, but it cannot be gender-blind. The melanin content of two peoples skin has nothing to do with their capacity to unite in the bond of marriage as a comprehensive union naturally ordered to procreation. The sexual difference between a man and a woman, however, is central to what marriage is. Men and women regardless of their race can unite in marriage, and children regardless of their race deserve moms and dads. To acknowledge such facts requires an understanding of what, at an essential level, makes a marriage.
Anderson cites key US court cases striking down inter-racial marriage bans and in the process shedding light on the essential gendered nature of marriage. The Catholic Church and other religious groups played prominent parts in the ending of racial discrimination in marriage so it is not from a history of prejudice that many religious people now claim the right to speak and act publicly on the basis of a belief that marriage is the union of a man and a woman.
...that ought to be protected
But isnt refusing to take photos of a same sex wedding or providing catering for such an event now, just the same as refusing to let Negros into your restaurant in the 1950s? No it is not. That is because racism is unreasonable and an historical and geographical aberration, while the belief that marriage is between a man and woman only is a reasonable belief based on all of human history up until the year 2000.
Furthermore, refusing to provide services for a same-sex wedding is not an act of discrimination against any individual or their sexual preferences; it is a refusal to endorse an action that one believes is a lie. In other circumstances the baker or florist would be happy to serve the individuals involved. Besides, there are plenty of businesses willing to facilitate same-sex weddings and the market can easily take care of the demand.
Yet in a growing number of cases, government coercion and penalties have violated religious freedom with respect to marriage. Family businesses especially photographers, bakers, florists, and others involved in the wedding industryhave been hauled into court because they declined to facilitate or participate in a same-sex ceremony in violation of their religious beliefs.
It is time, says Anderson, to stop this trend by legislation:
Legislators should enact commonsense religious liberty protections that would prevent the imposition of substantial burdens on sincere religious beliefs unless the government proves that imposing such a burden is necessary to advance a compelling government interest (and does so by the least intrusive or restrictive means).
He quotes law professor and religious liberty expert Douglas Laycocka same-sex marriage supporter: "I know of no American religious group that teaches discrimination against gays as such, and few judges would be persuaded of the sincerity of such a claim. The religious liberty issue with respect to gays and lesbians is about directly facilitating the marriage, as with wedding services and marital counseling."
Thus, when it comes to flower arrangements and wedding photographers, what is the compelling state interest? How is forcing every photographer to take same-sex wedding photos the least restrictive way of serving that interest, whatever it may be? Not every florist need provide wedding arrangements for every ceremony. Not every photographer need capture every first kiss. Competitive markets can best harmonize a range of values that citizens hold without government interference.
Its all about living in a free society, Anderson concludes: Protecting religious liberty and the rights of conscience does not restrict anyones freedom to enter into whatever romantic partnerships he or she wishes.
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the punishment does not fit the crime... he needs a real penalty. a few years like 5 sounds better
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This sentence is entirely not enough! He should have gotten at least 6 months for each animal found in the building - so for me 25 years would have been more adequate - No telling how many dogs died under his watch.
Our lab was stolen 3 weeks ago and we haven't found him yet. People are saying that fighters steal dogs for bait. I hope this wasn't what happened to mine. I have joined in with my local animal shelter and formed a committee to work on this. I am trying to get as many people as I can to go on and sign the petition to put animal abusers on a registry as an offender which means everyone can find out this information and cannot own an animal again. Wouldn't you want to know if your neighbor had abused an animal in the past? And no 1 year is not enough.
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DATE & TIME: Wednesday, February 5, 7 p.m. (ET)
FACTS & STATS: Site: BankUnited Center (7,000) -- Coral Gables, Florida. Television: RSN. Home Record: Pittsburgh 12-2, Miami 5-6. Away Record: Pittsburgh 3-1, Miami 5-3. Neutral Record: Pittsburgh 3-1, Miami 1-1. Conference Record: Pittsburgh 6-3, Miami 2-6. Series Record: Pittsburgh leafs, 17-16.
GAME NOTES: Attempting to halt their first losing streak of the season, the 25th-ranked Pittsburgh Panthers take on the Miami Hurricanes in an ACC affair on Wednesday evening at the BankUnited Center.
Jamie Dixon's Panthers opened up play in their new conference with wins in six of their first seven ACC tilts, but have dropped back-to-back games at home to Duke (80-65) and Virginia (48-45) to fall to 6-3 in league play.
The Hurricanes are the defending ACC champs, but Jim Larranaga's squad is comprised of different players this season and successfully defending that crown doesn't look eminent. Miami has really struggled at home at a mere 5-6 overall, but one of those wins came this past weekend, a non-conference victory over Norfolk State, 64-49. The Hurricanes have dropped three straight ACC matchups and now sit at a meager 2-6 in-conference.
The Panthers have won the last two meetings between these teams and now holds a slim 17-16 all-time advantage in the series.
The Panthers went up against one of the top defensive teams in the country and were outdone by the Cavaliers last time out. The Panthers fell victim to a Malcolm Brogdon 3-pointer with under a second to play that earned Virginia the thrilling win. Despite being at home, Pittsburgh shot an ugly .319 from the floor overall, resulting in a season-low 45 points. Freshman Jamel Artis led the team in defeat with 11 points off the bench. Lamar Patterson added 10 for the Panthers in the setback.
Pittsburgh has been much more efficient offensively this season, shooting .474 overall, leading to 74.4 ppg. Tough defensive play has been a constant, as foes are averaging just 60.5 ppg on just over 40 percent accuracy. In addition, the Panthers enjoy a +8.1 rebounding edge. Patterson headlines the play at the offensive end of the floor, averaging 17.4 ppg, while shooting an impressive .420 from behind the arc. Center Talib Zanna, who was injured in the Virginia game (ankle), has been a force down low, averaging 12.9 ppg, on nearly 60 percent efficiency. He returned against the Cavs and should be able to suit up in this game. Cameron Wright rounds out the top scoring threats on the roster for Pittsburgh at 10.7 ppg.
The Hurricanes are also a defensive-minded squad, holding opponents to a mere 59.5 ppg and under 40 percent shooting overall (.399). However, Miami's strong defensive play is more of a necessity, as the offensive weapons are few and far between for a team that is netting just 61.6 ppg. Rion Brown is the only player on the roster currently averaging double figures with 14.0 ppg. Garrius Adams (9.8 ppg) and Donnavan Kirk (9.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg) add limited support.
Despite going up against an inferior foe in Norfolk State, Miami still struggled to find an offensive rhythm, shooting just .419 from the floor en route to a modest 63-point effort. Four Hurricanes managed to reach double digits though, led by Brown's 15 points. Manu Lecomte added 13 points, Adams recorded a double-double with 12 points and 10 rebounds, while Kirk chipped in with 10 points.
The Hurricanes have struggled at home this season with a losing record at the BankUnited Center. It won't get any easier for Miami against a Pittsburgh team that is looking to turn things around.
Sports Network Predicted Outcome: Pittsburgh 66, Miami-Florida 59


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As though the feat was not already astounding, isn't Dennis Gormley's "Missile Contagion: Cruise Missile Proliferation and the Threat to International Security" also by a CNS expert? He's also still on the staff list at CNS. The book is presently #9, although less new (but still on the "Hot New Releases" list).
Anyhow, great book, great academic, just looking to make sure he was included in the deserved accolades.


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When Craven County Hospital opened in 1963, it was a cutting-edge 100-bed facility, located on one campus on Neuse Boulevard in New Bern.
Later it was Craven Regional Medical Center, and today, it is CarolinaEast, with a bed capacity of more than 350.
CarolinaEast has more than 2,100 employees and an annual budget of $773 million. It has offices and physicians' practices facilities in Jones, Onslow and Carteret counties.
The gem remains the medical center in New Bern, also site for surgery and diagnostic centers.
CarolinaEast is owned by Craven County, structured under the North Carolina Authority as a governmental entity, with a separate board of 11 members.
Answering to that board is the administrator, Ray Leggett, who appreciates the past, deals with the present and looks forward to the future. He has been with the health system for 23 years, working the past five years as CEO.
"It costs us a million dollars every 30 hours to operate CarolinaEast Health System, the entire system," he said recently in preparation of this week's 50th anniversary of the New Bern facility. "We are entirely self-supported. The monies that we operate on are monies that we collect for our services."
Leggett said that despite the vast difference in physical size, staff and services from 1963, some things haven't changed.
"One thing that is exactly the same is that we are very focused on our mission and that is to provide comprehensive health care to the citizens of the region," he said. "And, I think that was exactly the same in 1963."
Leggett points to two men he credits with shaping the commitment and approach for local medical care — the first administrator, the late Lonnie Moore, and assistant administrator Danny Jackson.
"I think they were very focused on serving the community and making it a really good place to work," Leggett said. "That is the same today. We have tried very hard to build on the foundation that those two gentlemen built. And, I think we have done a very good job at that. We are very focused that we can provide the service that the county and region deserve. I think those two men had that very same mindset in 1963."
Today, Leggett is proud of what the medical center has to offer.
"It is hard to find anywhere else what we have as a medical community in a place the size of New Bern and Craven County," he said.
He pointed to open heart surgery as an example of specialized care.
"We have always had the ability and the willingness to stay with cutting-edge technology and new services and procedures," Leggett said. "We will continue to do that. That is one of the reasons we have been successful for 50 years and had considerable growth."
The hospital does not have to send many cases for reference or care to other medical facilities.
He described CarolinaEast as a "tweener."
"We are not an academic medical center, but we're not a typical community hospital," he said.
Leggett said change will continue to be part of growth for CarolinaEast and medical care in general.
"I think that health care is changing and I am not just talking about the hospital," he said. "I am talking about the whole health system. We are going to have to figure out a way to drive down costs. The costs are rising too rapidly."
He said increased medical costs over the years have come from a combination of factors.
"It's not just hospitals, or doctors' offices. It's not just drug companies, or the price of medical equipment," he said. "It is a combination of all of those things. And, quite frankly, we are going to have figure out a way to better handle the uninsured, the underinsured and the indigents. We, as a society, are going to have to figure out a better way to handle that."
CarolinaEast Medical Center is about to undergo its latest renovation, which will double the capacity for its emergency room facilities.
He said the patient load — 75,000 annually — is about double what it was built to handle.
Maternal/child services will also expand.
"We probably deliver about twice as many babies as that area was built to accommodate," he said.
It will become a separate area, part of new construction on the right side of the front entrance.
The new expansion will be three-stories, built to allow support for two additional floors at a later date.
The original main hospital was four floors, which are still contained within the walls of the current five-story facility.
"You can walk around and see sections and it is easy to recognize the new sections from the 50-year-old sections," he said. "We cosmetically do as well as we can, but the average person can pick out the new sections from the 50-year-old sections."
He said this renovation would take care of the medical center for the foreseeable future.
"I think we will continue to be the safety net for the community and the region," he said. "We accept that role and understand it. There is certainly a push to take care of as much of the health care on the outpatient side as we can and reduce the number of inpatient admissions."
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RALEIGH — On North Carolina State's Senior Night, the Wolfpack is bound to be wary of a Wake Forest freshman.
That's because in the first meeting between the teams, forward Devin Thomas had a breakout game in January.
"I think Richard (Howell) will have a lot of incentive for this game," N.C. State coach Mark Gottfried said of his power forward. "… I think that our guys will be very tuned in when it comes to guarding (Thomas) this game."
Thomas' 25 points, 14 rebounds and four blocked shots in that 86-84 victory provided one of the highlights of the past couple of months for Wake Forest. Coach Jeff Bzdelik of the Demon Deacons said it would be unreasonable to expect the same result in teams of production from Thomas, though he wouldn't mind having that happen.
N.C. State is jockeying for position in the Atlantic Coast Conference standings and can't afford a slip-up in the last regular-season home game for seniors Howell and Scott Wood. Howell, the ACC's leading rebounder with 10.9 per game, needs nine rebounds to reach 1,000 for his career.
Plus, this is a chance for the Wolfpack to notch home victories in the same season against its other three in-state ACC rivals for the first time since 1988-89. It already beat Duke and North Carolina.
The loss to Wake Forest is the only setback for N.C. State against a team with a losing record.
"They played a phenomenal second half against us earlier in the year, and they've gained our respect," Gottfried said.
Wake Forest doesn't have much going for it in terms of road success. The Demon Deacons are 0-8 in ACC road games, with narrow setbacks to Virginia Tech (66-65) and Boston College (66-63) the only times they threatened to win during those games.
"They'll be at home," Bzdelik said. "Their crowd, I'm sure, will supply them with great energy, and we, in turn, as a young team, we need to make sure that we handle that environment well.
"At times on the road we have and put ourselves in position to win. And at times we haven't. So this will be a big test for us."
The wide spectrum of results across the ACC hasn't gone undetected by Bzdelik.
"We see so many different types of scores," he said. "One game a team just plays really well and has a great win, and then the next time out maybe they don't, maybe they get beat soundly."
Who: Wake Forest (12-16, 5-11) at N.C. State (21-8, 10-6)
When: 9 tonight (ACC Network)
Where: PNC Arena, Raleigh
Series: N.C. State leads 136-100, though Wake Forest won 86-84 on Jan. 22 at Winston-Salem


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Anshonee Addison is a big reason why Kinston's girls basketball team is currently undefeated in conference play and a favorite to reach the regionals yet again.
But that hasn't always been the case.
Addison, a junior who transferred from North Lenoir following her freshman year, has overcome some personal obstacles as well as those associated with entering a new program to be a prominent figure for the Vikings this season as they seek their third straight Eastern Plains 2A Conference title and a third consecutive trip to Fayetteville.
The 5-foot-7 guard has always had the work ethic, but when she got to Kinston she found she was one player on a team comprised of many good players instead of being the go-to player she said she was at North Lenoir.
Having found her role, she's now a starter on a first-place team that is 15-4 overall and 8-0 in league play entering tonight's contest at Farmville Central.
"When I was at North Lenoir I was a leader and my team depended on me," Addison said. "When I came over here I actually had some help.
"I felt like I was putting pressure on me that wasn't (necessary)."
Her first workout with her new teammates was "intense" — more so than at North Lenoir, she said — almost to the point that she didn't know if she was cut out to play in coach Hubert Quinerly's system.
But she hung in there, and did what she could to earn herself a spot on the team.
"She's such a good player with a solid work ethic," Quinerly said. "She's really helped us out a lot on both ends of the floor."
Addison's talent was never a question — it's why she's now at Kinston, she said — but somewhere along the line she began to press herself too much. She was taking shots that weren't there. She was making passes that weren't there.
In essence, she was trying to be more than what her team needed to be.
"She was just trying to do too much," Quinerly said. "We had a heart-to-heart talk, and once she settled down and let the game come to her things got much better for her."
This season, though, she's figured out that she doesn't need to score 20 points or have 10 assists per game for both her and her team to be successful. She just needs to be one of the girls on a team full of talent.
With four games left on the regular season schedule she's currently averaging 6.4 points, 2.9 rebounds, 1.7 steals and a single assist per game, according to stats on Maxpreps.com.
Addison's role is to contribute anyway she can, and to have fun doing it.
It's a role she's embraced with open arms.
"I love it here," she said. "I wouldn't trade it for the world."
Ryan Herman can be reached at 252-559-1073 or email@example.com. Follow him on Twitter: @KFPSports.


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RYAN VREDE writes that the Springboks' Rugby Championship campaign left Heyneke Meyer with more questions than answers.
Meyer has been consistent in his view that he will have a clearer idea about the players he can take forward and those that don't meet his expectations after the completion of the southern hemisphere showpiece. He has also explained that his opponents, the best in the game, would expose flaws in his tactical philosophy, and that he would make adjustments accordingly.
He would have hoped that process would be less complicated than it now will be, but Meyer has to be decisive in light of his team's inconsistent showings, which saw them finish 14 points adrift of the All Blacks, and well behind them in all of the most important aspects of their play.
He admitted that dropping Morne Steyn was one of the hardest decisions he has had to make in his short time as coach. But it was the right one in light of the flyhalf's chronic struggles. His replacement Johan Goosen impressed in short cameos off the bench in Australasia and was good as a starter against Australia at Loftus. But his goalkicking, so good in Super Rugby, lacked accuracy, while his weak tactical kicking game, a deficiency exposed against the All Blacks in Soweto, wouldn't have filled Meyer with confidence ahead of the northern hemisphere tour. I wouldn't be surprised if Meyer reverts to Steyn for the three-Test tour, using Goosen as an impact player.
Fourie du Preez is in the closing stages of negotiations with his Japanese club Suntory Goliath which would allow him to be available in the Test windows. This would ease the pressure on whoever Meyer opts for at flyhalf for the year-end tour. Du Preez's value is unquestionable, and his potential return will also be crucial in building depth in quality in one of the Springboks' most crucial positions (in the context of their game plan).
Meyer lacks a commanding presence at No 5 lock, with Andries Bekker continuing to struggle for consistency. I wrote after his self-confessed nightmare in Mendoza that there needed to be an investment in him because there just aren't any better alternatives in South Africa or abroad. I still feel that way. Bekker, however, has to deliver with greater consistency and authority.
There continues to be legitimate questions around Zane Kirchner's retention, many believing Pat Lambie to be a better long-term alternative. Francois Hougaard, having been deployed as a wing after failing to meet Meyer's expectations as a Test scrumhalf, has yet to exhibit the form in the position he did for the Bulls between 2009 and 2011. JP Pietersen's return to fitness will see him take Hougaard's spot in the starting line-up for the November Tests. There are players with greater utility value available to Meyer as impact options, bringing into question Hougaard's prospects of making the match 22 (with either Pienaar or Du Preez covering scrumhalf on the wood).
Viewing the Springboks more broadly, Meyer has endured heavy criticism for his perceived attacking conservatism. Their method won't alter dramatically in the coming years, with Meyer hoping the execution thereof becomes slicker. There are, however, fundamental flaws that need to be addressed, most notably their predictability at the gainline (i.e a lack of variation in terms of runners in support and the angles of those attacks). There also needs to be a greater level of precision and innovation in the opposition's 22m. The Springboks created numerous scoring opportunities throughout their Rugby Championship campaign, but failed to convert a large percentage of those.
Defensively they were average, with too many of what Meyer deemed 'soft moments'. This is the bedrock upon which the best teams in the game have built their success and it must be the hallmark of this Springboks side.
There are undoubtedly positives, with a young pack largely fronting well, the emergence of a clutch of gifted rookies and Bryan Habana nearing his best form. Those things stir optimism.
Meyer has said from the outset that the first year would be his toughest. I doubt he expected it to be as testing as it has been. There are mitigating circumstances for him, injuries to key senior players the most notable of those. But his side cannot regress from this point.


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Dr. Kate is an OB/GYN at one of the largest teaching hospitals in New York City who'll be answering your medical questions here regularly. After her recent post on the NuvaRing, a lot of you asked for more information on this birth control device, so here goes:
The NuvaRing is one of my favorite forms of hormonal contraception — all of the benefits of the Pill, without the daily hassle of remembering to use it. But since the Ring hasn't been around as long as the Pill, many women have a lot of questions about using it. So I thought I'd address the most common Ring issues that come up in my office. When using the Ring….
What's okay to put in your vagina:
- A penis. Intercourse will not push the ring up into your pelvis, or to any place where you can't retrieve it. And semen/sperm will not diminish the ring's effectiveness.
- A vibrator or other toys. Same as above.
- Tampons. Ditto.
- Medication. It's fine to treat a yeast infection with over-the-counter creams like Monistat, or to treat vaginosis with prescription MetroGel. You don't need to rinse the ring off afterward, either — the medication will all absorb eventually.
What's okay to come out of your vagina:
- The ring before sex. If sex is uncomfortable with the ring in place, just take it out. It sounds counter-intuitive, to take out your birth control before having sex. But the ring works its magic by turning off your ovaries — and the hormones will remain in your system after the ring comes out. You can remove the ring for up to three hours without losing effectiveness (and if anyone is having sex longer than three hours, please share your good fortune with the rest of us!). Just be sure to put it back in before you roll over and go to sleep.
- Increased discharge. It doesn't mean you have an infection — it's just your vagina's way of reducing friction with the ring in place. Think of it as more lubrication for sex.
Do any of you have questions about using the NuvaRing? [[Editors' note: Dr. Kate compiled all the most common questions she gets about the Nuva Ring and answered them in a post called "Everything You Need to Know About the Nuva Ring," so she will no longer be answering any Nuva Ring questions in this or other comments sections. The lady only has so much time.]]
– Dr. Kate
Dr. Kate is an OB/GYN at one of the largest teaching hospitals in New York City. She also lectures nationally on women's health issues and conducts research on reproductive health. Check out more of her advice and ask her a question at Gynotalk.com.