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Jesse Ventura: the last of the straight-shooters?
He's an egomaniac, but how can you not like this guy?
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The US military brutalizes our special ops guys
To become a Navy Seal or any other type of special operations guy the military actually sends these people to torture school. The "logic" is that they need to be waterboarded and suffer other types of torture so that they can resist this type of treatment if they are captured by the enemy. Huh?
What it really does is damage them for life. Also it may make them more likely to treat people they capture with a similar type of torture.
{;-) Dan in Miami
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I think you mean SERE
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Dan, this entry bothered me for days
What it really does is damage them for life.
SEALS are extraordinary individuals. You can't judge them by normal human standards. I'll give you an example. As part of their training, sort of a final exam, they go on a simulated mission that lasts 4-5 days. In that time, they do not sleep. Have you ever been able to stay awake for that long without sleep in your entire life? Now picture yourself, about day 3, paddling a boat or toting a massive amount of combat gear. I know a former SEAL, a Vietnam combat veteran a year older than me. He's been a Christian minister/missionary for the past 30 years, but you can still see the SEAL within him. Sure, this former football player is not as big as he once was, but he still looks like ten pounds of dynamite packed into a five-pound bag. He was invited to speak in South Africa a while back. When he and his interpreter were walking down the street, a large man approached and told his interpreter, "Tell him to give me his brief case or I will punch him."
This former SEAL told the interpreter, "Tell him to move out of our way or I will kill him."
The man moved.
No, Dan, these are not damaged people, they are extraordinary people made even more remarkable by extraordinary training.
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Not talking about survival training Coaster
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Read it
The training is intended to bolster the ability of our warriors to resist torture. It is not intended to teach torture as a means of interrogation. The author did not back up his claim that those exposed to these techniques will go on to use them in the field.
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Read it. Hearsay. Assumes facts not in evidence.
Your honor, the defense is trying to turn this courtroom into a circus.
A lot of people don't like being in the military, find the possibility of their continued presence in the military depressing, and don't reenlist. ummm, like for instance.......ME. Let's face it: If that kid was getting military career counseling from his mother, he should probably choose another career.
Let me make this clear. I don't think our country should be torturing any prisoner. I also think that training our troops to resist torture (fuck that "harsh interrogation" political correctness bullshit phrase) is a good and necessary thing. And I'll leave that call up to the troops and their commanders.
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You cannot train to be tortured.
The brain makes no distinction between training and actual torture. Nor does it bounce back stronger the way a muscle does. These guys are being brutalized. Even the minister in S. Africa still resorts to death threats. Probably he was being facetious, but that kind of mindset and damage is not something we should be inflicting on our soldiers. But we do as a matter of course, and we have paid an enormous price because of it. I don't think people understand how completely, utterly retarded (since we're dropping the PC b.s.) the military mind is. It disgusts me that a military pedigree is something we look for in leaders.
qualifier: this does not mean I have no respect for people who are willing to serve, or that there aren't intelligent people in the military.
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I believe military training issues are best dealt with
by the military.
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I don't.
Sure, they are better equipped to train people to fight. But they are shit-ass terrible at dealing with the rampant psychological issues that WE are stuck handling as a society. And if torture has been shown to be ineffective and destuctive, why dally in it at all?
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Our warrior class often deals with those less sophisticated
and our troops must be prepared.
Please note that our military commanders were against using torture as an interrogation tactic. The only way torture got into the pipeline, as it's now becoming clear, was because Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld ordered it. The military knew better. It has recently come to light that mush of the harsh interrogations and torture were done by contractors, many being former instructors of the SERE school. Note that the people at the SERE school recommended against using these techniques to gain information as they were known not to be effective. However, Bush's cronies were never known for competence and letting facts get in the way of a hot idea.
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I heard a Republican senator say...
They been doing torture for 500 years because it works!
If these war criminals are not put on trial for this I'd charge the Dems with complicity! Let the international court handle it if you don't have the stomach for it. We'd look better in the eyes of the world if we dealt with this and not try to push it aside.
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Good points re: the military and torture.
The scumbag/retarded comments were over the top, but I still think that the mindset is unnecessarily brutal, that waterboarding does not prepare one for being waterboarded anymore than it tortures them, and that we as a society pay a far greater price for what the military does to many of its enlistees than we acknowledge.
This is not to mention that Jesse was the coolest wrestler of all time.
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SERE is the US military torture school
On his first day in office, President Obama kept his most important campaign promise and began the process of closing Guantanamo. But this eliminates only the most visible part of the U.S. torture bureaucracy. In order to ensure that the atrocities of Guantanamo aren't visited upon the world by future administrations, Obama must also eviscerate the structures that enabled and supported torture. At the top of a long list is the U.S. military's secretive torture school, known as SERE, which stands for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape.
Founded in the aftermath of the Korean War to train U.S. servicemen to withstand enemy interrogation, the school was central to the development of the notorious "enhanced interrogation techniques" at Guantanamo. It was the SERE program that sent instructors and staff psychologists to Guantanamo shortly after 9/11 and provided the technical expertise on tactics like water-boarding. As Jane Mayer put it in her study of U.S. torture policy, The Dark Side, "SERE is a repository of the world's knowledge about torture, the military equivalent, in a sense, of the lethal specimens of obsolete plagues kept in the deep-freeze laboratories of the Centers for Disease Control."
{;-) Dan in Miami
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Did Cheney order torture to get false confessions?
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Senate investigation proves torture for false confessions
WASHINGTON — The Bush administration applied relentless pressure on interrogators to use harsh methods on detainees in part to find evidence of cooperation between al Qaida and the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's regime, according to a former senior U.S. intelligence official and a former Army psychiatrist.
Such information would've provided a foundation for one of former President George W. Bush's main arguments for invading Iraq in 2003. In fact, no evidence has ever been found of operational ties between Osama bin Laden's terrorist network and Saddam's regime.
...CIA interrogators waterboarded two alleged top al Qaida detainees repeatedly — Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August 2002 and Khalid Sheik Muhammed 183 times in March 2003 — according to a newly released Justice Department document
{;-) Dan in Miami
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Mothers trump the military ...
so there!
and you thought I didn't have a comeback argument
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Why don't you go stick your opinion
in the right place.
The Reply button is your friend.
Well, I'm off to Mayfest.
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Mayfest? Excellent!
Lemonade, Dippin' Dots - the ice cream of the future, and hot dogs rule!
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We're mere amatuers on torture compared to these guys
we lack the element of surprise btw
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For more serious discussion on this matter
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Here's Jesse Ventura on The View
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Jesse Ventura smackdown on Fox and Friends
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JV's in FOX AND HIS FRIENDS?
Big news for Fassbinder fans!
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Jesse Ventura and Rush Limbaugh in a cage match!
You could sell 10 million pay per views for that smackdown!
Can't you just see Jesse chasing the drug addled gas bag all around the cage! Teh Heh.
{;-) Dan in Miami
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Henry Cavill showed off his muscular biceps while filming on the set of his new movie The Man from U.N.C.L.E., a new film by Guy Ritchie. Henry showed off his fit self while wearing a blue Under Armour tank and black track pants, and took a break in between sets to eat lunch all by his lonesome.
It was just announced that Henry's ex-girlfriend, Kaley Cuoco, just got engaged to her boyfriend of three months, tennis pro Ryan Sweeting. Wow she moves fast!

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Original post made on May 15, 2009
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Comments (5)
a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 15, 2009 at 12:49 pm
AVHS Dad is a registered user.
Heh Heh, such responsiveness!
a resident of Livermore
on May 15, 2009 at 4:28 pm
3 Criminals in the Slammer! Is this cool or what?
I am so delighted that I may just go out and have myself a double bacon cheese...HOORAY!
I'm sure lots of bleeding hearts are gonna flip out and start complaining that some folks just love reading stories about criminal justice. Yup, 3 young thugs in the slammer, where they belong. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...
Thank you PPD,VIVA!
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm
ah, Cholo - we meet again, and you are still an idiot.
a resident of Livermore
on May 25, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Hi Mr. Tidy Bowl, Yup, we meet up again...how's the world mistreating treating you! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahha..
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Cholo - get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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