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'Slow Jam'
'Love Vigilantes'
'Your Silent Face'
'Turn My Way'
'Close Range'
'Touched By The Hand Of God'
'Bizarre Love Triangle'
'True Faith (94 version)'
'Love Will Tear Us Apart'
'Ruined In A Day'
'60 Miles Per Hour'
'Blue Monday
(my parsing program breaks on the commas in the first and fourth links, you'll have to cut n' paste by hand)
Tidbit from Roger Lyons from Lionrock, who is responsible for the live programming on New Order's current tour:
...even as I am writing this I am importing a New Order Gig (Liverpool 2001) from 40 track ADATs and I would like to do a surround mix of this in Nuendo.
From email@example.com:
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:43:06 +0100
From: "Dave Stephenson"
Subject: (Fac33) Erm, some sort of NewOrder gig
I'm in pain cos I've just been crushed at the front of the best NewOrder gig I have seen. OK, so the only ones I've seen are Reading 98 and Ally Pally before this one but OH MY GOD!
Opened with Atmosphere as a tribute to Rob Gretton and Hooky's Mum, then went on through a bevy of new and old tracks including Every Little Counts, Love Vigilantes, Crystal, Blauer Montag (of course), 60MPH and more which I can't be arsed to write out but I'm sure the set list will i appear somewhere soon.
Corgan didn't piss me off. He didn't say a thing all night and was only really audible on Turn My Way, Ruined in a Day and Blauer Montag - and even then his vocals were only apparent on Turn My Way, his guitar on Ruined in a Day and Blauer Montag.
Hooky was fucking loving it as usual, walking head down into Corgan, winding Barney up and stomping around the stage. Barney even looked as if he was enjoying himself too.
The new album sounds VERY good live. Not sure about Turn My Way or Slow Jam but Crystal and 60MPH just rock. It's gonna be a good one.
People of note spotted at the front include Andy Robinson and that roadie who looks like Arthur Baker and appears in The Perfect Kiss video.
The Olympia was a fantastic venue too - nice and small. But we won't even mention the, erm, After Show Party. Oh dear.
I think Barney summed it all up best when he said - "Woooo!"
@ Happy Jack
From 192mbps mp3 of DAT apparently recorded backstage...which was
missing the Alan Wise intro, which I have on another version of this
show (very likely the same source, confusingly
AW: "Now I know the band's been away, they've been a way a long time, and I don't know [this Allannah?]. Let's face it, they've been surpassed by better talents like the Spice Girls. Yes, so I took a look around, and then I thought, 'Why don't we get rid of all the blokes in the band and have an all-girl band. That's a bit better, innit? By the way, hello to Mrs. Smith, lemme see... John Smith, Dave Smith, and the wankers from Hollywood or something. Right, I want you to welcome now then, the new all-girl band from Manchester, the ladies of the JOY DIVISION."
Loud cheers and cries for New Order. The MP3 recording starts after Bernard greets the audience.
BS: "Hello. Feels like we've never been away. Please welcome...Billy Corgan...and Phil Cunningham, our new guitarist for tonight. Hope you're gonna enjoy what we're gonna do...cuz we certainly are. Let's have a great time! [hooky chuckles] Here we go."
PH: "Just a sober moment, this is for all the people that can't be here, this for Becky, Rob Gretton, and my mother, God bless them all!"
Barney whoops a few times during this song. He stopped doing this after the backlash against his overexuberance at what is supposed to be a dirgeful ballad.
BS: "Thank you. Thanks a lot!"
BS: "Okay, this is a song off our new album, which is called Get Ready, and the song's called Slow Jam, hope you like it!"
Audience member yells out something "sure we will..."
BS: "So listen carefully..."
This version is faster and more guitar-based, and missing the synth squiggle. Mix has Barney's vocals move from right to center and back again...don't know if the taper was moving during the first verse.
Some wah-wah guitar near the end. And Hooky can clearly be heard doing the ending chorus.
BS: "Thank you, you're very patient..."
BS: "Okay, this is another new one. but you have to be patient cuz we're gonna play a lot of songs for you tonight. We're gonna play for a whole hour and a...hour and a half, which by our standards is a very long time. [guitar chord]. And by the end of the set, by your standards it'll be a very long time as well."
Piano into for Crystal starts.
BS: "This is Crystal, our new single. You've not heard it yet?"
Somebody yells "Hooooookkkkky!" at least twice.
Drum backing seems to be a bit different, vocals are low in the mix and a bit off. Plenty of whoops, though. "You shock me to the core, ooh, yeah!"
BS: "'ak you." [guitar/bass strum] "Oh, it wasn't bad, wasn't it, was it all right?. All right, now we're playing...after we bored you with those new songs, we're gonna play something you know now. "That's how we know it as well."
BS: "Jeremy, make sure I hear the click, please."
Volume levels go up and sound is clearer...
BS: "Woo! Thank you!"
Audience starts chanting "New Order, New Order, New Order!"
PH: "This one is for your dad. Prin(?) God bless..."
punter: "Go on 'ooky lad, go on 'ooky!"
Somebody actually calls out for Transmission...
Barney can be heard quietly testing out his melodica playing!
BS: "Excuse my rather large embarrassing melodica.. I have got a small one, but it's not the size that counts, is it? Okay, this is Love Vigiantes."
Song plays. Good version.
BS: "Woo!
BS: "It's a bit hot, innit it? [heavy guitar riffing and feedback]
Audience member calls out "Hooky!"
PH: "Yes...was there something?"
BS: "Okay, we're gonna reach back into the annals of history now. This
is sung by Joy Division, it's called Isolation."
BS: "'ak You"...song closes out.
PH: "No...do I wanna know how big and how fucking ugly you are? NO."
BS: "This is another one that features my instrumental prowess on the
melodica. I learned it at school. Very interessting fact. Ok."
Song starts.
BS: "We're playing all our old favorites tonight. Jump up and dance
to 'em."
Hooky, et al. help with the "Why don't you PISS OFF!".
(at the end)
BS: "Thank you. I've always liked that song..."
[note: some versions have KW1 and Turn My Way transposed]
BS: "Okay, I'm afraid we're got time to inflict you with some of our
new songs. This is called 'Turn My Way'." Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, hang
on...boys, hang on...featuring Billy on vocals, well done..."
(audience members cry out "Billy Corgan on vocals!", which is to whom
Barney address "well done to", as well as a "c'mon Barney, lad")
PH: "He's very shy."
BC: "All right guys..."
A portion of the performance of Turn My Way made it into the 511 DVD,
very cool. Sounds like a tape edit at the end, odd considering this
is the 21st century and this was supposedly a DAT recording..
BS: "Thank you."
Edit in the tape. Nice drum intro.
The mp3 version cuts off at 4:07.
BS: "Thank you, that reminds me of when I used to be a punk."
BS: "Oh my, it's hot. Especially down here. Touched By The Hand Of
Hooky sings one of the "It belongs to you" refrains. Also some wah-wah
guitar in the earlier part.
BS: "'ak you."
PH: "This one is for your hopeless romantics..."
BS: (at the same time as Hooky) "Do you know how...do you know how
fucking hot it is up here?"
Audience member cries out "How hot?" (presumably the guy that's been
heckling throughout)
BS: "I tell you, it's hotter up here than it is down there. [mumble]
You'll find out cuz you're gonna be on this fucking stage at the
end of the show. Okay, here we go."
BS: "Thank you. Woo!"
More "New Order!" chants.
BS: "Thank you. Having a good time? Not supposed to happen at our gigs,
yer out of order!"
The opening bass sounds absolutely massive.
BS: "'k you! Wonder where that came from? I see you all getting into it
a little bit now..."
BC: "Um..."
PH: "You'll have to scream a little louder."
BS: "Whoo. Oh yeah, this is Temptation."
You know the audience is singing along...and this is a "last fucking
time" version too.
BS: "Whoo...thank you...wicked, man. Ok, Hooky, you were standing on the
the bloody half of the stage as well..."
Tape fades...then the last sentence above is repeated.
PH: "Hey, he gets all [hot] that I'm enjoying meself. Still a miserable
twat, isn't he? (think he's talking about Bernard, not Corgan!)
"Come over here."
BS: "How about we all get started tonight...Billy."
Hooky yells out "C'mon!!" during the second chorus.
BS: "Thank you.
Bass feedback at the end.
BS: "Sorry but Hooky had to put some Savlon on his ass. Only joking!
We've enjoyed this so much we'd play the whole set again for you..."
PH: "...But you've gotta pay again, so c'mon."
BS: "One two one two..."
Audience member (sounds like Alex!) calls out "Hooky, 60 Miles An Hour".
Somebody else says something, it's that presumably what Hooky is responding
PH: "No, it's about 120 at the moment, how's yours?"
BS: "Okay, let's go."
They play a nice version.
BS" "'ak you."
PH: "Ehh, this one is for my daughter Heather, it's here first day of
work today, she did very well."
BS: "Ok, this is 60 Miles An Hour."
Which they go ahead and perform...ends in a howl of feedback and wah-wah.
BS: "Eh, thank you. Okay, this really is our last song. I wanna
see if you can guess what we're gonna play. Someone said Blue Monday.
Yes, you're right. See me after, and I'll give you a prize."
(Heh, that was classic)
BS: "Actually, it's called FUCKING Blue Monday now cuz I'm FUCKING
sick of it. Only joking."
Hooky exclaims during the bridge "must be me!" Corgan's guitar can
be very faintly heard throughout.
Song ends in bass feedback and a synth wash.
PH: "Good night every-body!"
And that's it.
Penis references, slaging off Blue Monday, audience putdowns, they've still
got it, folks!
Transcription of streaming webcast...the video's not very watchable,
and the audio is muddy and monaural, given low encoding bitrate
(24kbps for the music). Still, way better than nothing.
Needless to say, the transcription of this one was particularly
difficult. Hopefully, I can get my hands on a higher quality
version at some point in the future.
Assuming the webcast aired the performance in sequence, the song order
was the following (giving the song titles as listed):
Ruined In A Day
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. With our new guitarist... [and ?word?
?Phil Cunningham?] (can't make out exactly what he says here)
BS: "And...we're gonna start off with a Joy Division song. It's
called Atmosphere"
PH: "For all the girls at East/West, thank you."
The synth has a interesting shimmering effect. Annoyingly, Bernard
whoops a couple of times, although this was more pronounced at the
Shoreline performance (31 Jul 01) than here.
Song finishes...
BS: (Whoop!) Thank you. Thank you. Great to be back in Japan after
all this time. Jerry, can't hear the top of the kit too well, and can
you turn the gate up on my earphones."
The webcast differs from the setlist in that Slow Jam doesn't appear
here but later on, after KW1.
BS: "All right, from the very old to very new, here's our latest single,
called Crystal."
They play the 6+ minute extended version rather than the more abbreviated
version played at the West Coast gigs.
BS: "Thank you, thanks a lot."
BS: "That was all right, wasn't it. It wasn't shit, anyway?
And, er, from very old to very new, to just a little bit old,
this song's called Regret.
BS: "Make...[can't understand this part]...the quick."
The end of this song gets flubbed somewhat.
BS: "Eh, hank you. Come to think of it, that's not a bad song either."
Melodica playing, f
BS: "Okay, we right, we right, yeah..."
PH: "You all set, Billy..."
BS: "Billy-o!"
PH: "He's nervous tonight, he's not played in front of big crowds often,
so you have to forgive him."
BS: "Okay, let's go"
Song ends with bass feedback, as Bernard 10q's.
BS: "Okay, this is a Joy Division song, it's called Isolation"
The song is performed.
BS: "Thank you. Domo Arigato!"
BS: "Ok ok, having a good time? We're having a fucking great time here in
Japan, it's a great country. Who said that flattery will get you nowhere?
Hooky says something off-mic.
Your_Silent_Face (labelled KW1, naturally, on the setlist)
BS: "Okay, this is your Silent Face, get the DJ to turn the fucking music
down over there, you twat."
Bernard busts out with the melodica! I personally welcome the
return of this song to their live set.
And it looks like somebody turns down the vocals on Barney when he
says "piss". (part of the 'Why don't you piss off?' lyric). The audience
recording is of course unimpeded.
BS: "All right, we're gonna play a song...okay, this is a song off our new
album called Slow Jam."
Nice feedback at the end.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Okay, this song..next song features Billy. This song features Billy on
vocals, and is off our new album, called, eh... what's the new album called,
PH: "Get Ready..heh heh."
BC: "Get Ready..yeah"
[some trading of 'Get Ready's passes between the band members]
BS: "Get ready, get ready, yeah. And it's 'Turn My Way'!"
(at end)
BS: "'ak yew"
PH: "The boy done good!"
BS: "Okay, we're gonna now play something that you all know and love...hopefully
love. It's called Bizarre Love Triangle."
After the first verse, Hooky yells out "C'mon cheer for Phil!"
BS: "Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa...I'm wrong again, I'm wrong again...
uh...fuckin' hell. ...it takes you out here. When you get to our age..."
PH: "Fuck off..."
BS: "Alright, this is another one off our new album, but you're sick of hearing
these new songs you've never heard before... one day believe you me, you will come
to love them...it's called Close Range, take that fucking capo off now."
I like this one quite a bit.
BS: "Thank you, thank you. Yes, Roger, I didn't notice that was the wrong one."
BS: "Okay, the next one is called Touched By The Hand Of God...and it's about
Hooky's bass guitar. There Hooky, a rare compliment, a rare compliment."
PH: "Very rare and few in between, but I fucking loved it!"
(at end)
BS: "You're copied my chord there. Yes, what do you want?"
PH: "The switch to the other [two words] fucking broke that one."
[Not sure what this was about]
BS: "This is...er, True Faith. New version. Hope you like it. We do."
Hooky squeaks and mutters quite a bit during this one. "C'mon, you bastards...
for the Viking!" or something like that.
At the end:
BS: "Thank you. Yeah! Let's go for it."
BS: "I need my special guitar for this one."
BC: [can't make out what he says, think it starts with 'Let me...']
BS: "Temptation."
He starts out with a 'woo woo' along with the beat, before the opening guitar
They play it. All their Temptations these days feature Barney counting
"1, 2, 3, 4!!" before going into the last break.
BS: "Thank you." Guitar chords.
PH: "It's very quiet, isn't it?"
Crowd yells.
PH: "What's the matter, scousers got yer bag?"
BS: "Eh, this song is called...ah, I can't remember(?)...it's something about love...
They play LWTUA.
Hooky yells "Here we go!" at the 1:24 mark. He also yells out, "Turn up my mic, Andy!"
at about 3:30, "Andy" again ten seconds later, and another "Here we go!" at the 3:53 mark.
BS: "Whoahhh...thank you very much, you've been a great audience. See you in sixteen
years!" (He laughs when he says this)
I guess Barney had forgotten they played Japan in 1987, which was only 14 years before.
The punters start to chant for New Order...somebody strums a bass...
then general clamour...and more chanting...before NO take the stage again.
BS: "How did you know we were going to do an encore? [noodles on guitar]
The lead gui-part...guitar part in this song is very, very difficult, so if
we play it out of tune, please bear with me."
Actually, this is a really good version. Nice guitar work, having
Corgan and Cunningham around helps.
BS: "Woo! Thank you. I cannot stop saying 'Woo', heh heh. Why do I do that?"
BS: "Okay, this is eh, a song called 60 Miles An Hour, off our new album called
Get Ready."
Initial ascending guitar riff before the sweeping synths preface the track.
BS: "Thank you very much."
PH: "God bless you."
BS: "Okay, you might recognize this one. So, I'm not going to tell you
the title, so you can decide for yourself which one it is."
Huge cheers when the opening beats kick in, of course.
A couple of whoops and a whistle make their way in before the vocals
start. Lots of silliness on stage here, not the least of which was
Bernard's freaky dancing.
BS: "Thank you, good night, great to be back in Japan. We really
enjoyed it! Thank you."
The maelstorm is Blue Monday continues for a minute more before ending
in gigantic bass feedback, followed by Hooky throwing down his
instrument and walking offstage.
Announcer: "You were great...we loved it.!"
Then he goes into Japanese...the only phrase I can make out is
'New Order'. Any speakers want to translate?
I attended this performance. What I most vividly remember
was this girl who was doing a very intimate lap dance
for her partner, who unfortunately couldn't be persuaded
to stay beyond New Order's set (she wanted to stay, he
wanted to get busy). The last I saw of this couple was
him walking out, with the girl flipping him the bird
as she chased after him.
No, I'm not making this up.
Another highlight was the punk with a Low-life shirt,
who had scrawled on the back, "Fuck Moby". Ace.
Some reviews...
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:34:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marc Joseph
Have to agree with Fernando. The sound was very poor.
The levels were definitely set for the bands on after
New Order (Outkast and Moby). The difference was so
great that on some songs it was almost like comparing
AM radio to CD sound quality.
The vocals were set too low until three and a half
songs in. With the exception of Hooky's bass, all of
the sounds ran together. Couldn't hear Bernard's
guitar on many songs (e.g., TF). I was at the
bottom/middle of the lawn section. Perhaps the sound
was better up close? Kind of doubt that.
The band knew that sounds levels were screwed up, and
were constantly (Bernard, especially) pointing to the
side stage to make changes (or even requesting changes
on the mike during songs). Bernard made a comment
after the fourth song -- in the middle of which they
adjusted the vocals sound level -- something like
"...well, at least half of it didn't sound like
[Editor's Note: this comment seems to be missing
from the CD I have of this gig...nor do I recall him
making this comment.]
I've not heard the complete album. I did listen to
the sound clips and the downloaded Fuji concert. The
sound at the Mountain View concert, especially of the
new songs, was, not surprisingly, much poorer than the
album clips. But, it was also much worse than the
Fuji concert (which was actually pretty good).
[Compared to Reading '98, which I also was fortunate
to attend, the sound was on a completely different
scale -- not a fair comparison.]
I realize that at a festival with little or no
soundcheck time, that it's difficult/impossible to get
the sound levels correct. At the same time, though, I
wonder. Did the New Order sound at the show help or
hurt their chances for being successful again in the
Without decent sound levels for the new songs (and
even most of the older ones), does it just reinforce
the "80's band" label in the U.S.? In my mind, it
doesn't, but I'm not the majority.
Song selection:
New Order is known in the U.S. by the masses (i.e.,
most everyone not in the orchestra section) by five
songs: BLT, TF, TBTHOG, Temptation, & BM.
They had to play those songs. The difference in broad
audience participation was significantly higher during
those songs than all the others. I would've loved to
have taken a poll of the audience to see how many
people first realized it was "that" New Order when BLT
was played.
(LWTUA also got the audience's attention. Along with
In a Lonely Place, they were two songs that had good
sound balance. Best two songs of the day, IMO.)
Song order:
I was hoping they'd change the order from Liverpool
and Fuji. Starting with Atmosphere in a half-filled
outdoor amphitheatre with the sun setting just didn't
seem right. Whoops didn't help.
Energy level:
Hooky was very enthusiastic. Even hopped off the
stage during Blue Monday. Steve and Phil were into
it. Bernard was hopping around and seemed very
enthusiastic. He also, though, seemed a little peeved
about the sound.
The orchestra level audience was very enthusiastic.
To the balding guy in the French blue long-sleeve
shirt, I hope you drank lots of water afterward. You
must of sweated about a gallon of liquid.
Billy Corgan's involvement:
Although it's true he didn't necessarily do a lot on
stage, his presence meant a lot. He received very
loud/positive recognition when Bernard introduced him
and when he lingered on the stage at the end. Even
looked like he signed an autograph from the side/front
of the stage during a lull in a song.
It's been said before, but his presence will mean a
lot in the US market. Turn My Way will get
significant airplay, because of, in large part, him.
He has a very distinctive voice (whether you like it
or not) and the masses will instantly be drawn into at
least that song (and perhaps like it and try the whole
Atmosphere (not the song):
New Order is not a day-time outdoor band. The
difference in atmosphere (along with the sound) of
Moby's show was startling. I realize that Moby's been
doing his show for a while now -- very rehearsed,
highly produced, etc. -- but it had impact (whether
you like his music or not).
A light show, a full venue, and darkness to help
people focus on the stage (as opposed to talking on
their cell-phones & walkie-talkies, commenting on the
people walking by, screaming to the ushers for
glow-in-the-dark thingys to hang around their neck,
etc.) make a world of difference. Even playing one
hour later (in the Outkast slot) would have made a BIG
difference. But, with a full tour commitment, it was
right to have Outkast slotted there.
(Funny side note: They turned on the smoke machine --
IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. Bernard disappeared several times
while singing. Not the cool floating haze like
Reading '98. Looked like a dust cloud had descended
upon him. After a few songs, Bernard said something
like, "Turn off the fucking smoke machine. You're
killing me.")
All that said, I'm still very glad to have been there
and grateful that New Order came back to the U.S. I
wish that I could go to the LA event to see if they're
able to improve the sound by then. I very much hope
they can come back again and tour in some mid-size
venues (e.g., Fillmore in SF).
Information from the (at least) two known versions of
this gig:
> From: GaoBest
> In a message dated 10/1/01 1:04:38 PM, firstname.lastname@example.com writes:
Al Jarvis later adds:
From: "Al Jarvis"
Sarge isn't a 'big bloke' at all. He's about 5'6? But he's mean as f---,
suppsedly. Head of security at the Apollo, I believe, and has only ever
acted as security for one act before - Barry Manilow! And he's defo not
Hooky's brother, just a mate.
4 of my mates managed to get their mugs into the Frisco audience photo
in Q magazine but me and the Mrs were to the right of the stage so don't
feature. If the cameraman had panned more to the left there was a big X
of St George in the audience held aloft by some lads from Slough and
Sound is clear (being sourced from a DAT). Despite my initial report,
there are no dropouts in my copy (sorry gaobest!)
BS: "Hello everyone, we're New Order, it's great to be back in the
States! [bass chords] Please welcome our guest guitarist tonight,
Billy Corgan. Please welcome Phil...Phil Cunningham. Well, you like
Joy [Division]?"
(my copy of the gig cuts out after the word 'Joy')
BS: "This is a song called Atmosphere."
PH: "One Two Three Four"
BC: "Yo...yo...(echo)"
Barney gets "whooping cough" during this song. Most people find this
affliction annoying during what are supposed to be downtempo numbers.
PH: (to roadie offstage) "Jerry...my foldbacks are still not working...
Can I have more guitar in the side fills, please."
BS: "Thank you...whoo! Thanks a lot, thanks a..."
BS: "Ok, this is a song called Regret."
Opening guitars are mixed way too low and Hooky's bass comes in out of
time. The sequenced hi-hat is high up in the mix. A fairly rare botch-up.
BS: "Yo! Jerry, a bit less on my guitar, please, a bit more
of the sequenced drums, sequenced shit."
(he's being sarcastic, of course)
PH: "You're all right, matey[?]. _____ _____ the fucking amp is
coming out[?]
BS: "Okay, this is our new single. It's called Crystal"
(audience member yells out 'Who's playing that?')
Kick drum is very loud here...and the vocals kinda low.
BS: "Oh...thank you...whoo..."
PH: (plays note) "This is for you all old-timers. And you young timers.
Every living fucker in between."
BS: "Okay, this is Love Will Tear Us Apart."
Ends up being somewhat of a singalong.
About 3:12, Hooky exclaims "Here we go, Steve!"
BS: "Thank you! It's one of those old songs, but we can do
even better than that! Just bear with us. You're in for one
hell of a...eh, a trip."
BS: "Okay, this is an old song called "Your Silent Face."
And indeed they do much better. Again, the melodica makes
its appearance, and there's some improv...melodica jazz,
anyone? My copy has a pop/crack at 3:58.
BS: "Yo! 'ak you. Whoa..oa..oa...
(audience member yells 'Ceremony')
BS: "This is a new song...off our new album Get Ready, features
Billy on vocals, and also...he plays a lovely solo in the middle
of it."
BC: "Take my hand...and don't let go"
BS: "And don't let go".
About 3:08 in, Barney cries "Yo! Phil".
I guess being around all those hip-hop acts is rubbing off on
Barney, yo!
Nice "thought that I was right" refrain in this version.
BS: "'k you! Yo!"
(audience member yells 'Ceremony' again)
BS: "Okay, after that, of course we're gonna play some of the
_____ you already know. This is called Bizarre Love Triangle."
BS: "Jerry....[whistles]"
They play the song.
BS: "'ank you...[groans]"
PH: "Fuck. Can't see me tuner, and sounds like there's something
wrong. [plays bass] Nah, it's just me, being a lazy...Salford
bastard. Like jazzy here, man."
BS: "This is Touched By The Hand Of God."
BS: [3:33] "One Two Three Four!"
Another dropout at 4:41.
BS: "Thank you. Andy, will you turn that fucking smoke off, it's
driving me mad! I'm a confirmed anti-smoker, cigarettes are bad
for you!"
(more calls for Ceremony from the audience)
PH: "Haha...you got told off, Andy. Hehe."
BS: "Apologize for that one, a very slip of temper on my part..."
(recording cuts out briefly)
BS: "Okay, this is true faith...new version."
BS: [0:50] "Oh, bassline"
PH: [0:54] "Here we go"
BS: [1:13] "More bassline"
Hooky makes weird noises at about 5:15.
BS: "Thank you."
Arthur Baker intro
BS: "Please welcome...our producer Mr. Arthur Baker, stood right there
in the audience. Hello Arthur! Guy with the beard and the long hair.
Looks a bit like Rasputin. He's got a big dick just like me."
BS: "well, you're laughing at (him?) anyway. Okay this is another
song, it's called Temptation."
BS: [5:37] "Oh, it's the last fucking time..."
BS: [5:52] "One Two Three Four!"
BS: "Ohah! Thank you"
(yet more calls for Ceremony from the audience)
BS: "'nk you. Fucking M...a bit tiring up here."
BS: "Okay this is eh, eh, called 60 Miles An Hour, it's off our new
album. Hope you like it. Hey whazzap Billy, c'm...an old friend back
They play the song, and finish.
PH: "Not bad, was it?"
BS: "'k you."
BS: "Hey, this is Blue Monday"
PH: "Yo, get that bass a bit louder, for there's a man in Manchester
who can't hear it!"
BS: "No one can set _____ _____" [whistles]
BS: [1:42] Weird noise.
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a great audience, it's great to be back
in the States. This time we're here to stay, Keep on Truckin'!"
Outro...clapping...people wanting more, the usual.
Same set as Shoreline 7/31 except LWTUA moves to later in the set
before the encore...and True Faith was omitted... in my opinion the
performances here are better, not to mention the banter!) However,
I heard that the conditions they had to play in (rain/sparse crowds)
were less than ideal.
Source: CD from two separate DAT masters.
(a bit of right channel distortion, clears up by the start of
PH: "You fookin' boo, then we'll kick yer fookin' 'ead in."
On SR version, you can hear a bit of conversation, including GB with
"What did he say?".
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. Please welcome to the stage...(Phil says
"hallo") our new guitarist, Phil Cunningham, from England. And the most
obnoxious man in rock, Stephen Morris! Oh yeah, Billy Corgan as well.
And Peter Hook. (Hooky: "Heeey") And there's our roadies..."
GB (taper): "He's in a good mood."
(somebody notes that Barney's in a good mood...which based on what
I've read on Ceremony wasn't the case at all)
BS: "Here we go."
Barney continues with whooping, but it's less pronounced than the
Shoreline performance.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Hey Billy, your sister's in."
BS: "Thanks a lot."
PH: "She's got that coloring set you gave her for Christmas."
BS: "Ok, this is a a [stutter] a song called Regret."
The levels are more reasonable here than in the Shoreline version,
which was plagued with technical difficulties.
BS: [whoop] "Thank you."
Somebody cries for Ceremony.
BS: "No, not playing Ceremony tonight...because Ceremony fucking sucks!"
(lots of laughter...maybe this is a snide allusion to the mailing list!)
Someone like me reports a slightly different wording:
"Only once, this year in Vancouver. I loved it, it was a dream come true.
My favorite moment was when somebody yelled "play Ceremony" and Barney
responded "I will play it for you, yea right, Ceremony F**king sucks" I
just started laughing. If anybody knows Barney, they will know that is
just his style of humor. Also Peter was very Interactive with the crowd.
I hope they come to the west again!!!"
BS: "We're gonna play our new single, however, because we all want
you to buy that one, we don't want you to buy Ceremony."
BS: "We want you to buy our new single Crystal, and it sounds just
like this."
An exuberant "Yeeoooww" during the "keep it coming" parts. Also
some good thrash guitar soloing during the break, concluding
with another Hooky "Yeeoooww". The stereo seperation shifts a bit...
BS: "Thank you. Jerry, can you take the backing down a touch, please."
PH: "If only we could, we're not allowed to by the musician's union."
(talking at the same time Bernard introduces the next song)
BS: "Okay, this is called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you. Okay, we're gonna subject you to a new song now,
it's called Turn My Way, and it's all...all Billy Corgan's fault."
BS: "Thank you."
Somebody says "There's a little hole right here."
BS: "Bizarre Love Triangle. I heard you! And we're gonna play just for
you, the guy in the blue T-shirt and the yellow bit there, what's your
name? (punter cries out name) I feel like I've known you all my life.
Here we go."
BS: "'hank you. Okay okay okay, can anyone guess what we're gonna
play next. [folk scream out Blue Monday, of course]. Apparently not."
PH: (interrupting) "I told you to watch your half..."
BS: "Well, listen and you've caught it on two. I'm ready when you're
ready, Roger."
Good riffing on this one. I love how Barney's vocals are so sensually
flat, and then they kick into high gear!
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "So slippery up here you can'tt do anything...I dunno...you Americans
and your weather."
(The crowd quickly corrects him, mock booing mixed in with laughter)
PH: "You'll have to forgive me for that one, just like I forgive you."
BS: "Ignore what Hooky was saying, just listen to me. I'm the voice of
truth. This song is Temptation."
BS: "Thank you."
From: http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=1124085831
'Someone like me' reports:
"Your right, being my first New Order show, I would think anything of New
Order was cool. I will admit that Vancouver looks like it was one of the
worst shows next to Germany so far on this tour. I'm guessing because of
the weather, is the reason True Faith was off the set list.
I totaly forgot about Peter calling us Americans. (Not that is a bad
thing right about now). But just to let everyone else know. Peter said
"You Americans are all the same" And I was one of the people who
screamed "were Canadian" Then he said "I will forgive you, if you will
forgive me", Then Barney said "Don't listen to him listen to me."
It was funny. I hope they come to the west again."
BS: "This is a song that we've never played in Canada before. It's
called Love Will Tear Us Apart...I think. Something like that anyway."
Feedback squall from one of the guitarists.
BS: "Get on with it!"
Hooky yells out, "Let's go, let's [something] rock!"
Good version.
BS: "Thank you. An oldie but goldie."
BS: "Now we're gonna play something that'll make you want to kill yourself.
Straight after you've heard it. Our speciality. It's called 60 Miles An Hour".
Pretty raucous version, Corgan does backing vocals here to I think.
BS: "Thank you. Whoa. It stopped raining as well, no it just started
again. Sorry. Anyway, we like the rain in England, I'm sure that
you like it too. Cuz no fucking choice have we really."
BS: "Okay, this is our last song, it's called 'Brue Monday'. My
(somebody in the crowd sarcastically comments 'Yeah, right!')
They play Blue Monday, which comes clattering to a halt.
PH: "Good evening, Vancouver!"
NO then depart
The between-set music comes on, and an interesting conversation
between the taper (GB) and his companion (JV) can be overheard:
JV: "They didn't play True Faith."
GB: "They didn't play True Faith, that's right. I was like annoyed.
I was like, 'Wait...where's...'.
JV: "Is that the only one they didn't?"
GB: "Yeah, they played all the other songs from Sh...from Tuesday."
JV: "You know, It's kinda interesting, though, because they've changed
the set...the order of it."
GB: "Yeah, they moved...Joy...Love Will Tear Us Apart to the end.
I was impressed, I didn't think they'd be capable."
JV: "No..they...I think most people are really into them."
GB: "Yeah, people here are really liking it."
JV: "Well, I was really surprised that Regret came on."
GB: "And everyone knew Regret."
Plenty of reports from this one...looks to have been the best US
gig so far.
Pictures from the gig: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/chris_mealy
Source: tape from Waterrat (Anthony)...unfortunately, sound is very
hissy and muddy, but it's good enough for the job. :-) Also have a
CD from GaoBest...a different source, which sounds like a digital
master, but is also muddy, with very loud kick drum. I suspect
this was due to the acoustics of the venue. According to GaoBest,
he believes this was taped by ASw.
BS: "Hello, guess who we are? We are New Order. Not played in
Seattle for a while...of course, this isn't Seattle. We're going
to start off with a Joy Division song called Atmosphere, which we've
never played in Seattle."
They did play in Seattle once before, on the Technique tour, and
unless their setlist was remarkably different there, Bernard,
amazingly enough, may have been accurate in his recollection.
Crazed fan yells out "I love you!!!" at about 2:20 in (Waterrat).
Bernard whoops shortly thereafter.
BS: "Thank you. Thank you, it's a long time since we've played
that. 24 hours. This is...[can't make out rest, but it doesn't
sound like 'Regret' was mentioned]". Oddly enough, the last line
isn't even audible on the GaoBest copy.
BS: "Woo! OK. All right. this is our new single, it's called
Crystal, please all go out and buy it immediately!"
This perhaps was the best-played Crystal so far.
BS: "Thank you!"
PH: [in reaction to fans shouting out titles, I presume]
"Nope, try again later!"
BS: "All right, we're gonna hear a new...I am...another Joy Division
song now, and it's called Love Will Tear Us Apart."
PH: "One...C'mon Billy, fucking hell...one, two, three, four!"
They play LWTUA.
BS: "'k you...you come over, eh?"
BS: "Let's hear it for David Beckham...Let's hear it for Manchester
United! [another pause] David, the guitar isn't working."
PH: "We're not allowed to chat with you during this intermission."
[or something to that effect]
BS: "All right, here we go, this is Your Silent Face."
NO play KW1.
BS: "Thank you very much [very slurred]. It's great to be back in
America again. See some sunshine. Take some drugs! Meet a few ladies."
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Turn My Way faturing Billy Corgan on
vocals...and guitar solo...me on capo...Hooky, your bass is feeding back
Which they perform.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
Doesn't really sound any different than the million other times they've
performed this tune, though it was reported that Barney was off, rendering
one of the choruses without vocals.
BS: "'k you. Thanks a lot."
PH: "You're very kind."
BS: "Okay, this is the song that's gonna make [Hooky?] put down, it's
called Touched By The Hand Of God."
The timing was definitely off for this one, with Bernard coming in
a bit early.
When the song ends, some girlie yells out "We love you Billy Corgan!"
and start chanting "Billy Corgan...Billy...Corgan". !@#$% (Waterrat)
BS: "Absolutely beautiful place you got here for us to play...it's
a real pleasure to be here. [looking out over horizon] Where's Seattle?"
BC laughs.
BS: "Which direction is it?"
BC: "Over there."
Some girlies yell out "We love you Billy Corgan!", covering up the
reply Hooky made. !@#$% :-) (Waterrat)
PH: "Who's gonna..." [all I can make out]
BS: "Stephen, you're...[?]"
PH: "I'm ready...
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
BS: "'k you. We actually finished it! Okay, I need my badass guitar
to play this song. It's called Temptation."
That Girl: Billy, Yeah! Screams. Shut up already, we get the point.
Some scuffling on the right channel during the beginning of the first
BS: "Thank you."
Guitar being strummed.
BC: (softly) "Thank you very much".
I don't hear the edit between the end of Temptation and the start
of the encore...it could have been than New Order never really left
the stage. Would appreciate any information.
PH: "Ah, must be all you sweaty bastards playing havoc with our tuning."
BS: "This one's called 60 Miles An Hour, let's go. Get on with it,
Roger, or you're sacked!"
PH: "Ooh...[last phrase a mumble]"
BS: "Is Roger here? Must have startled him[?] This is Blue Monday.
Hope you like it as much as I do."
Some fool calls out for Ceremony. :-)
Some silly audience members start going "whoo whoo", in the fashion
of some contempory urban music hit. ;-) (both Waterrat)
BS: "Thanks a lot, you've been a fucking great audience. Thanks
for all the people than came over from England. Manchester United!
Manchester vibes in the area!"
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:48:22 -0700
I'm dead tired, so tonight I'll just say this: That was a great show. My
life is finally complete. I'll post more about it tomorrow. I also
snapped a film rolls worth of pics. I'll get those developed tomorrow
and hopefully have them online Sunday or Monday.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:55:13 -0700
Like I said in my last post, the show was great. My girlfriend and I
made our way into the crowd as soon as the Roots left the stage. After
a few minutes we found ourselves about 10 feet from the stage, almost
directly in front of Hooky's mic stand. It became apparent quickly that
most of the people in the crowd were there waiting for Outkast (who were
on after NO) But we did manage to meet a few nice people who were there
just for NO. In the words of one fan I met, "I paid $70 for New Order.
I could give a shit about the rest of the bands."
After about 30 minutes of waiting, I turned to say something to my
girlfriend. As I turned back around, there was Peter Hook looming above
me, arms crossed and staring blankly into the crowd. Soon the rest of the
band were on stage and they were playing Atmosphere. I've never been a big
fan of the Reading 98 version, but tonight it sounded beautiful. Bernard held
back on all the wooping that apparently has plagued previous gigs. I can't
imagine NO doing a better job of this song. It really was perfect.
After that Bernard stepped up to the mic and made some comment about how
he loves America. Then he said, "Here's a song we haven't played in 24
hours." Regret. At times this has been my favorite NO song, often on repeat
in my cd player. Tonight it didn't dissapoint. Everything about it was great.
Best part however, sometime during the song a beautiful rainbow formed over
the hills. I'm pretty sure NO had something to do with it.
Next on the list was Crystal. They started out with the piano/synth
intro from the extended version wich really got my hopes up (love the extended
instrumental at the end) however as soon as the intro was over it became
the edit. Apart from the keyboard bits in the break, Phil Cunningham was
down playing guitar with Bernard and Sick Boy (Corgan, who looked like he
was dead he was so pale). Crystal, for lack of a better term, really
"rocked" tonight. Nobody in the crowd seemed to know the song, but after
the song a number of people were making comments about how much they liked
it. Bernard also made the point of explaining to the crowd that Crystal
was their newest single and they need to go buy it "right now". Maybe he
didn't realize that it hasn't been released yet...
From here on my recollection gets of the set list gets a little fuzzy.
Overall it was a great show. My life really is complete now. LWTUA was
fantastic, as was most of the set. Sick Boy sounded horrible on Turn My
Way. Several people in the audience actually started booing very loudly
when Bernard introduced him for the song. Peter looked like he was having the
most fun on stage. Bernard kinda looked pissed (probably cuz he started
singing early on three different songs, which led to a silent chorus on
BLT). There really wasn't any interaction between the band members,
though. Hooky caught on to the fact that the security down front had to
look at the crowd the entire time, so he started swing his bass within inches
of their heads. Pretty funny. He was straddling a bunch of amps and lights as
well. He really was the star of the show.
I know I've probably missed some things but oh well. I just woke up. I'm
getting my film developed today, so I should have some pics online
Monday or Tuesday. Oh yeah, I'd like to give a shout out to all the ass-hole
Outkast fans that started crashing their way through the crowd before NO was
done. F**k all of you. Especially that ass that elbowed my girlfriend. Hope I
didn't punch you in the face too hard.
Great show, thanks New Order. Hope too see you soon!
"You've caught me at a bad time,
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 15:36:19 -0400
I actually wrote this last night after getting home, but sent it from a
different IP forgetting that it wouldn't get through. Oh, and I was the
one in the aque/turquoise blue plaid button up short sleeves with the black
rimmed glasses for anyone that was there. Jeff Sheldon was that you I was
right next to?
In two words: FUCKING BRILLIANT. Now, I've been waiting 15 years to see
them, so maybe just getting to see them is great, but it also offered all
the opportunity in the world to be disappointed.
I can't give you the set list, I don't remember, but they played about
what they played at the other shows--including True Faith (which they didn't
play in Vancouver?). The only song that didn't sound great was Turn My Way.
Could be that I'm just not familiar with it. Oh and Corgan's voice on LWTUA
really grated on my nerves.
Great crowd, even the couple of big dunder heads that were just there to
see Outkast and were standing at the very front. Completely motionless,
clearly not New Order fans. In between songs I said to one of them "Since you
aren't a New Order fan, and I've been waiting 15 years to see them can you let
me stand there?" He looked confused for a second but then moved and I was
right in front about 5 feet from Hooky! I had my friend's digital camera and
got about 60 shots. Not all of them are good, but some are absolutely
great. He's going to download them and put them on a site and send me the URL
so I will let everyone know. I couldn't really get any good shots of Stephen
because of the sun (absolutely blinding at times) and a particularly
large security guard who wasn't too accomadating about moving to the side a
few feet. But I got some great shots.
Temptation was brilliant, as were YSF, Blue Monday, Regret, LWTUA and
Atmosphere. My gods, Atmosphere. It was so amazing hearing it. But
again, the only song that I thought didn't sound good was TMW.
I'm sure someone else can give a better review than me but I thought I
would pass mine on.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:03:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: happenstance
well, i was about 10 feet from hooky as well. seems like at
least three of use list members were all right together there,
and didn't know it. when a couple outcast people tried getting
through, i said, "that is not going to happen", and me and my
three friends made an impenetrable wall. the show was
spectacular. even bernard forgeting when not to sing in BLT,
and hooky kicking down the light. it was amazing.
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 21:09:20 +0000
Am stuck in Seattle airport with a few hours to kill so thought I'd send
a quick mail to the list. If anyone's going to the LA show look out for a
Union Jack with Ceremony written across it near the stage front. I should be
somewhere near there. Pop up and say Hello! George Saunders from the list
should also be in our vicinity as we've seen him at all shows thus far.
The 'Ceremony' isn't actually in reference to this list but we badgered
Barney at Vancouver airport to play Ceremony and like to remind him of
our request! Pointless I know, but +there you go! If you can't see a Union
Jack we're also meeting 3 English lads who've got a huge Cross of St George
with them. They should be able to point you in my direction if you ask for
Shows thus far have been cracking, with only really Vancouver being a
letdown. Rained constantly there and we couldn't drink at the festival -
what was that all about?! Personal hilite for me is having Hooky write
'Peter Hook says f*** off' across my Shoreline setlist when we ran into
him at San Fran airport. Charming bloke.
Looking forward to LA, Allen & Co.
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:51:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: happenstance
seems like we were right near each other? what do/did you look
like there?
> It became apparent quickly that most of the
> people in the crowd were there waiting for Outkast
too bad, just a few more feet to the left and you would have
been in friendly territory...
> After about 30 minutes of waiting, I turned to say something
> to my girlfriend. As I turned back around, there was Peter Hook
> looming above me,
hookys "rock star" stances were brilliant. he cracked me up.
and, in my estimation, he knew exactly what he looked like.
there is a guy who looked like he really enjoyed the show.
during one song, when billy wasn't doing anything, he walked
over and started his "rock star" posing in front of him. then
he started nudging him with his bass. billy couldn't keep a
straight face then.
> I can't imagine NO doing a better job of [atmosphere]. It really was
> perfect.
yes, yes it was. a slow but excellent start.
> After that Bernard stepped up to the mic and made some comment
> about how he
see, i thought he said that in reference to atmosphere. he's
like, "we've never played this song in seattle before..."
sounding all sentimental before the song. then he finished,
after the song, by saying, "we haven't played that song in a
long time." as he stepped away from the mic, "It's been 24
> part however, sometime during the song a beautiful rainbow
> formed over the
well, i hope so. but some people seemed more excited about the
rainbow then new order. get your priorities right!
> Bernard
Here, I thought he said, "This is a new song, so don't leave
right now." I thought he was joking with the fickle fans there
to see the greatest hits collection and nothing else. crystal
was good, but 60mph was better. i actually thought turn my way
was better than crystal, but i'm a smashing pumkins fan as well,
so what can you do?
> Several people in the audience actually started booing very
> loudly when Bernard introduced him for the song.
i heard cheering, maybe one's opinion of billy shapes how you
hear people respond to him...
> Peter looked like he was having the most fun on stage.
coudn't agree more.
> Bernard kinda looked pissed (probably cuz he started singing early
> on three different songs, which led to a silent chorus on BLT).
hilarious! the song was still great, billy laughed at him,
while stephen and hooky looked a little nervous for a second...
speaking of bernard, we couldn't agree on this on the ride home:
does he know that he is one of the worst dancers of all time?
i think (giving him the benefit of the doubt as a long term fan)
that he knows he can't dance, so he plays it up real good. real
good, if you know what i mean. but my friends think he is just
terrible, and worse the more he gets into it. i don't know. at
least, either way he was enjoying the show enough to get into
it. i'm glad you could tell he was having somewhat of a good
time. but the running in place and goofy
side-back-kick-half-foot jumping?
> There really wasn't any interaction between the band members, though.
> Hooky caught on to the fact that the security down front had to look
> at the crowd the entire time, so he started swing his bass within
> inches of their heads. Pretty funny.
This was hilarious as well. Didn't you see him accidentally
kick the light down? he just kind of looked at as if wondering
what it was doing in his way in the first place. sometimes he
would stare vacantly into the upper reaches of the crowd, as if
disappointed they weren't into it as much as the horde of people
just in front of him. but then he would turn back to us and get
into it again. it all worked together quite well.
> F**k all of you. Especially that ass that elbowed my girlfriend.
> Hope I didn't punch you in the face too hard.
don't know if there are too many of them on this list... still,
i couldn't agree more.
> Great show, thanks New Order. Hope too see you soon!
yes! yes! yes!
okay, now i'm done.
ps - oh, i also noticed numerous people back stage singing along
with the new order songs. that was kind of cool.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:27:23 -0700
I just got back from area: one in los angeles. I kept reading about how
after seeing NewOrder people would say, "now my life is complete". Well,
that's exactly how I would describe how I felt after seeing NewOrder
tonight!! They were amazing. You could tell Bernard was completely into
it. Hook of course was all over the stage. Even Corgan was laughing and
smiling. It also seemed like they had packed in the stage area by the time they
came on. The tent must have been fairly empty when NewOrder was on.
During Blue Monday, some guy jumped on stage and scared the crap out of
Bernard when he snuck a pic of himself with his arm around Barney. It
was actually kinda funny. I met a list member there too. April, AKA (digital
girl?) was rocking out in front of me and even got a pick, a drumstick,
and the set list!! I stopped by the tent after and Oakenfold was on right
after NewOrder. He was playing crystal remixes!!
Here is what they played (but probably not in the right order):
I'm super tired. Bye.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Sultan
The highlight of the show was NEW ORDER (Gillian Gilbert included)
with Billy Corgan joining Moby for a great version of NEW DAWN FADES.
More review of the show soon with some backstage experience/on
stage/dressing room...Thanks to Peter Hook for his kindness.
BTW: was great to meet some member of the list
Subject: Area One report: Devore (Los Angeles)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 00:36:24 -0700
Great to meet some you folks: Met Vincent and Torbjorn for dinner in
Santa Monica the night before, hooked up with David Sultan at the show
and met George Saunders, Al Jarvis and friend immediately after the set
finished (they were right behind us).
Managed to worm our way to about ten deep back from the stage, good view
of everyone except Steve for most of the time. We also set ourselves up
on the Hooky side (better action). Everyone was enjoying themselvesthe
crowd up front was pretty into it, I think out area was a hotbed of
activity more than any other perhaps. Sound was overblowing the
capacity of my eardrums, but balance between the instruments was pretty
decent I thought. TBTHOG was a standout for me- Phil's guitar part
sounded like regimented Andy Gill style and added something new. I
really liked Crystal and 60 MPH, thought Turn My Way was pretty weak
relative, but not bad- just maybe was more suited for an Electronic
album. Pretty decent length set- with the new members, they weren't
improvising with their set at all of course, Phil and Billy had a list
of songs they had to learn and Bernard wasn't going to lead them into a
run of Ceremony, despite repeated requests. Bernard did a dedication to
some fans from Texas- what was that about? Seemed like the group to my
left had something to do with it. Billy Corgan had quite a following,
apparantly, and Bernard was careful to give him credit several times
throughout the gig- at the end, both he and Peter Hook gave him hugs,
Peter apparantly trying to crush his ribcage in the process. During
Blue Monday, some guy ran on stage and pulled what looked like Bernard's
earmonitor and threw it into the crowd. Also worth noting was Bernard's
careful introduction of all the new tracks (which helped with my list).
Quite an experience. The Joy Division songs didn't inpact me as much as
I would have expected, but Atmosphere was pretty awesome. The
dedication in Steve's drumming and emotion on his face was obvious.
Bernard seemed pleased with the crowd, said it was good to back in LA
etc. There was a joke about Billy getting all of the chicks, but then
Billy responded that they were only sleeping with him because he
promised they could have Bernard afterword- Bernard said he wasn't too
excited about Bernard's sloppy seconds.
How David managed to sneak in a full size 35mm SLR camera is beyond me.
Also- who had the NW ORDER license plate? Anyone?
It really was a fantastic experience, my first time seeing them play, as
well as my friend Chris, who showed me the Ceremony list in about 1992
or 1993.
Hope all of you folks manage to take them in some day.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:44:05 -0700
> During Blue Monday, some guy ran on stage and pulled what looked like
> Bernard's earmonitor and threw it into the crowd.
Actually, the guy jumped on stage with a point n shoot camera and tapped
Bernard as he was looking away. Right when Bernard turned around, the
guy put his arm around him and took a picture. Bernard had this freaked out
look on his face, as anyone would, when he turned around and say this guy
pointing something at his face.
You guys must have been a few people behind me. I was a few feet from
hooky and could of actually just reached out and touch his bass!! April,
another list member, actually did. So I guess she got hooky's attention
cos he handed her a pick, drumstick, and set list to her. It was kind of
funny because there were a few people there in the front that were obviously
waiting for outkast. Half way into the NewOrder set they were
dancing/bouncing just as crazily as the rest of us..great fun!
John Frye then replies:
We saw Hooky paying a lot of attention to that area and saw him hand off
the pick and drumsticks. April must be hot, eh?
And from "April" herself:
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 20:16:50 +0000
Hello all!
First off I feel very grateful that this was a General Admission event
otherwise I wouldn't have been as close to the stage as I was. We got
there at 3:30 and immediately went to the stage and stayed there until 11:30
when Moby was done with his set. It was actually hard when Outcast was
playing their song "Miss Jackson" and many were moshing behind us and smashing
us! I really HATE the music but I wanted to keep my place for Moby. I also
feel very fortunate to have met some incredible people there as well. Thanks
Albert for being such a nice person to me, and tell your friend to stop
being so quiet :P I really wish I would have met more of you guys but
hopefully they will come out here next year and we can really meet up!
Well enough about my day, the concert I have to say was THE BEST DAMN
CONCERT I HAVE EVER BEEN TO IN MY ENTIRE LIFE! I really didn't know how
I would react to them being there in person so close to me! It was
phenominal to say the least. As I said before I was lucky enough to be
right smack in front of the Hooky himself. He was the most energetic of
the band, he was getting the crowd crazy. I also managed to get his
attention and managed to get his pick (handed to me by the way), his
drumstick right after he jammed on the drum machine in Blue Monday.
I also got a set list, which is a real good thing I hear. He even
let me touch his guitar :o) :o)
I really couldn't believe I had gotten his attention, even enough for
him to stare at me and actually sing "I will take care of you like I
always do" from 60mph to me, I mean he pointed at me, looked at me,
and sang that line. Every time I hear that line I will get the chills!!
Who knows, it could have had something to do with the Get Ready shirt
I had on!
Ok, about the songs...Atmosphere was absolutly wonderful..Regret wasn't
as good live as on album, but I still enjoyed it very much..Crystal was
played very well and they all really got into it, basically they got into the
new songs a lot..LWTUA was the best I have ever heard it, although Billy did
look shy singing it with Peter..True Faith was brilliant, always one of
my favorites..Your Silent Face was one of the best songs, I loved how
Barney played that piano thing he blew into (sorry, I don't know what it is
called)..I almost cried during Temptation..and the rest were just incredible
(this is getting long now)
At the end of Moby's set I was very suupprised to see GILLIAN there, she
was actually there.. it was awesome to see her im person and with the rest
of the band...another suprise was that John Fruciante from the Chili Peppers
was there....very wonderful...
The last thing that made the day THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE was that some
guy gave me a free t-shirt in the parking lot as we were searching for the
This whole day was a dream and I couldn't ask for more, well maybe to meet
them :P, I don't think another concert could come even close to this
unless I do meet them someday... well a girl can dream can't she!!
Well that is my LONG post, I hope I didn't bore anyone but I had to
express my wonderful NewOrder experience to all.. I do feel very lucky.
Thanks again NewOrder and expecially Hooky for making me feel so good!
April (Dgitalgirl)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:39:37 -0700
>another suprise was that John Fruciante from the Chili Peppers
>was there....
yea, he often mentions Bernard sumner as one of his favorite
guitarists..flean and john frusciante are also big joy division fans and
sometimes play around LA in their joy division cover band.
Taken from CD from digital master. Just the right amount of crowd
noise. Thanks GaoBest, as always.
BS: "Hello, we're New Order. And we're on fire. Please welcome to the
stage, our guest guitarist, Mr. Billy Corgan. And over here, our new
guitarist, with the leather trousers, Mr. Jim Morrison...sorry, Phil
BS: (strums guitar) "Okay, this is Atmosphere."
They play Atmosphere. Good version, light on the whoops.
BS: "Thank you for an old Joy Division song which we're very proud of.
It's gotta be one of the most beautiful songs ever written. To the
second-most beautiful song ever written, also coincide...coincidentally
by us, Regret."
The metronome makes its appearance here. Is it a musical effect or
just so Bernard can keep time? I think it's the latter, given these
are being taped near center stage.
BS: "Thank you. Thank you very much."
PH: "Here, I [can't make out last word]..." (in fact, I can't really make
out any what he said). Barney interrupts. He does that a LOT.
BS: "This is our new single Crystal. and if you go out and buy it
immediately, I'll sleep with you...each and every one of you personally,
and so will Billy, and so will Hooky. (BC laughs) We'll do anything to
sell ourselves."
Which they play.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "All right, thank you. This is a song I don't think we've ever
played here before, but then again, I could be lying. It's called
Love Will Tear Us Apart.
PH: "Give a great [ ?] next to our friends from Texas. 1-2-3-4!"
Hooky shouts "Let's go!" about 1:55 in.
BS: "Thank you....thank you, thank you. We're gonna slow things down
a little bit."
BS: "Okay, this is Your Silent Face".
Some interesting feedback, and the melodica solo is cool.
Small skip about 4:58 in.
BS: "Thank you."
Some girl yells for Billy to take off his hat, twice.
BS: "Billy, what's going on between the stage here with those girls?"
I never knew...never knew you were that sort of guy."
BC: "I...I tell these girls that if they sleep with me, they can sleep
with you."
BS: "Sloppy seconds."
BC: "That's assuming I can..." [Bernard interrupts him]
BS: "All right, this is Turn My Way, featuring the sex stud himself,
the star of the show, Mr. Billy Corgan, on vocals!"
Which he sings...
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play a song you all know now. It's Bizarre
Love Triangle."
BS: "Thank you."
BS: (ugh) "Okay, this is another song. it's called Touched By The
Hand Of God."
Starts out with the same sort of feedback that was present in YSF, but
even more audible. Awesome.
BS: "'ack you."
BS: "Woo...Billy's girl got this sign that sign that says 'Please sleep
with me or give me a guitar pick.'"
Girl yells out again "Take your hat off!"
BS: "What's that say?"
PH: "We're going to get the pick off of that side...[last two words
BC: "It's cheaper to, uh..."
BS: "It's cheaper, right."
BS: "True Faith"
As usual, it's the Perfecto mix.
BS: "Thank you."
PH: [Groans]
BS: "(grunts) I think we've had enough now, it's getting a bit hot up here."
BS: "It's called Temptation."
Which. they play.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, here's a track from our new album, new album's called Get Ready,
and this track is called 60 Miles An Hour. It's a protest against the speed
limit. Not a very good subject for a song, but it sounds pretty good.
PH; "Whoa, thank you very much California, it's fucking great to be
back! I suppose I gotta say goodbye to you now Billy."
BC: "Bye." (the freak fan's still calling for him to take his hat off)
PH: "Only PT...bye Hooky"
BS: "Billy, I like to thank you sincerely for helping us out on this
tour, it's been a pleasure having you."
BC: "Thank you."
BS: "All the rumors about you have been completely unfounded. You are
a really nice guy. Billy, put it there."
I assume they give each other five.
BS: "And you know, underneath that hat, he's even got hair!"
BS: "Bye Hooky, bye bye Hooky. Lippy, you're a nice guy as well,
Lippy, come and say hello to the audience. Lippy, c'mon. Lippy,
c'mere, c'mere..."
(Lippy is 'Phil' backwards)
BS: "All right, this is Blue Monday. Get into the groove, you
Phil (I presume) screws up on the keyboard parts a couple of times.
Good stretch of feedback about 5:00 in.
BS: "Thanks a lot, it's great to be in LA again. You've been a fucking
great audience, and what else can I say? Thanks, Billy! And thank you
Lippy! Thank you Lippy!"
NO: 11 AUG 01 Mungersdorfer Stadium Cologne Germany
Review from Ceremony list:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:44:36 +0000
Bizarre one this. Bought a standing ticket to be as near
to the Order as possible but got into the stadium around
4pm (first band 5pm) to find out they'd already filled out
their quota of fans stage-front so - after my initial
disgust - settled down in the sun to sink beers and watch
the bands from a bar at the far end of the pitch, what seemed
like a million miles away.
Got talking to a German neworder bod though (dressed in
Temptation 98 t-shirt) who was convinced we could genuinely
get down the front after Ash's set. JJ72 and Ash came and
went so me and 2 of my party made for the left hand side of
the stage in order to gain access to the inner sanctum. 2 burly
security guards were having none of it and refused a 100Dm bribe
so we took another 20mins to wade through the assembled bodies
(it seems German concert goers set themselves down in one spot
for the entire duration and don't even need to move due the
wandering Becks salesman replenishing their every liquid need)
and finally made it to the right of the stage to be faced by a
fresh-faced security guard on his own. And he wouldn't even accept
a 300Dm (100 pounds in real money!) bribe to let us through! Of
all the cheek. But just at that point the infamous Alex gave me
a tap on the shoulder, and so there we were - me + 2 and Alex + 6,
10 English Neworder fans in all - marooned behind a barrier, more
than yards back from the stage - when the band finally appeared.
Atmosphere started with Primal Scream drowning out the band, still
playing on huge video screens either side of the stage. And it was
all downhill from there. Absolutely NO-ONE else was up for this
one. No atmosphere whatsoever. Cue Barney: "Are you all having a
good time [pause] Cos it doesn't fucking look like you are." A huge
Mexican wave started during 60mph and got a bigger cheer than the
band had all evening. Blue Monday finally got the German heads
nodding but all in all this gig seemed a totally pointless exercise.
If ever a gig deserved World In Motion finale, it was this one. That
might've ruffled a few feathers. Robbie, on the other hand, rocked
the venue - he is the ultimate showman. Anyone who can get 60,000
Germans singing along to English-language songs and have 30% of them
bedecked in Union Jacks is a winner in my book. A sound bloke. Quote
of the night "I used to be in the Spice Girls [pause] Well, two of
them". Boom boom. Not a bad day out, all in all, just a bit
'different' as New Order gigs go.
Set - same as America, minus TMW and True Faith.
Another review:
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:19:36 +0200
just returned home from the cologne gig - my first ever new order gig...
(waited 11 years... hm, blabla...) anyway, it was more than an
experience, already suggesting before that it will be a tough show
due to the audience (best question I got asked by a teen girl - do you
know who new order are? we think they are a boyband...) - incompetent
organization (the already mentioned thing about getting into the first
rows... you have x robbie fans sitting there the whole time and no chance
due to wristbands been given out to them to get in there...), so we had
to enjoy the band from the second circle + I have never ever seen a more
igonrant audience before...
setlist has already been mentioned - lovely choice to let your silent
face stay in the set (my bet was this would be out...) + leaving most
of the people there totally bewildered. barney started to take the piss
out of the audience + add more lovely comments as the gig continued.
(do you like dance music? nah, you probably like marching music),
temptation is a song about all the lovely things in life that we never
do like poking in the nose... hm, and blue monday is about the soft-sex
movies on german pay-tv in hotel rooms... hehehe, by the way, phil
got a plastic bottle thrown at him - and at the end of blue monday
hooky threw his bass into his amps...
so, you can say, quite a special night, enjoyed it a lot personally - a
shame about the audience!!! very intense performance nevetheless!
can't wait for the autumn dates.... Dennis
Excerpt from a London Times article (Paul Connolly)
My html preprocessing can't handle the commas in the link, so
you'll have to cut/paste if you want to read the full article
Bernard Sumner glares balefully at 60,000 apathetic German Robbie
Williams fans in Cologne's Mungersdorfer stadium. "Do you like
dance music?" he asks. No response. Even from way back in the crowd I
can see him bristle at the lack of reaction. It's clear he's dying
to let rip. He can't keep it in any longer and growls menacingly,
"Do you like marching music?" and New Order rip into Touched by
the Hand of God, one of their huge fund of classics.
Backstage after the gig Sumner grins when I remind him of his comment.
�That was the least offensive thing that sprang to mind. I had to
keep biting my lip. Robbie Williams fans aren't really our audience."
Peter Hook, the band's bearded bassist and master of melody, quite
enjoyed the show. "As Bernard often tells me, 'You'd enjoy
playing in Beirut.' But I like a challenge. After the show Robbie
Williams hugged me and said 'Well done, you did well to get through
that.' Mind you, Bernard was so annoyed I thought he was going to
start World War III." New Order are playing at the request of Robbie
Williams, but most of the crowd were probably still at primary school
when the band released their last album, 1993's Republic. It's no
surprise that the sight of these fortysomethings playing music that
still sounds futuristic doesn't stir their hormones.
But for the few New Order aficionados in the crowd the sight of the band
dubbed 'the post-punk Beatles' playing again after such a long
hiatus is a near-religious experience. They are the most influential
band of the past 25 years, without New Order there would be no U2,
Primal Scream or Pet Shop Boys.
As advertised, the source that I have sound like they came from the
soundboard [note: it's probably FM] And also as advertised, the
between-song comments here are especially good. i don't know how
sincere they are, a lot of it is from Barney knowing the Germans
understand not a word he says.
Since picked up the full FM version that was posted to STG by
Not complete, fade-in.
BS: "Thank you. Erm, all [can..?] me and Hooky. Can I have a bit more
keyboards and drums, please."
(off-mic) BS: "Turn it down a little bit."
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Regret. Hope you like it."
They play Regret.
BS: "Okay, thank you. Hey Jerry, if you can cut Hooky on side fills
a bit, that'd do me a big favor. And I'm not hearing Phil too well."
BS: "Okay, this is our new single. It's called Crystal. Hope you
like it so much you go out and buy it. We need your support."
PH: "Thank you" (may be Phil)
BS: "One two one two one two."
PH: "This is another old song, ...a fucking well-deserved rest. One two three
BS: "All right."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: [muttering] "...very professional...".
BS: "Hello. Are you having a good time here in Cologne? It doesn't fucking
look like it. I've soon you best sort your fucking lives out. [guitar chords]
And we're gonna play something you don't like. This is called Your Silent Face.
Bernard calls for Hooky right after the synths start up.
During intro...
BS: "This is very Bavarian song. Think of the mountains in Bavaria.
Skiing! Naked saunas! I was gonna say something else, but I won't."
Barney whoops before the first verse.
And says "Thank you" in Deustche.
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Bizarre Love Tri...[mic cuts out]. Oh, fuck.
And, uh..."
Barney whoops during the intro.
BS: "'k you. Very polite of you."
BS: "I see you got a group there in Cologne? Do you like dance music. No?
All right. Do you like marching music? Okay this is a song called Touched By
The Hand Of God. [he giggles a bit delivering this line]" He ahhs and makes
a couple other Barney-esque noises, including a grunt, whoop, and whistle
This version is a bit shambolic.
BS: "Thank you very much, very polite audience tonight."
PH: "Yes, you can." [dunno who he was responding to] Plucks bass a
(punter can be heard crying for "Blue Monday" right before Barney starts speaking)
BS: "Okay, this is a song...you probably have never heard of, actually looking at
you, but in England [Hooky laughs] it's a very famous song [Hooky gasp-sighs].
It's called Temptation. [Phil chuckles]... It's about doing bad things, which
obviously you never do, like picking your nose, and forgetting to cut your toenails."
They play Temptation.
BS: "Thank you. Thank you very much. Very kind of you..."
Electric guitar chord.
BS: "Ok, this is a...a new song off our new album, which is called
Get Ready. It's called 60 Miles An Hour, which is the speed limit in
England actually. So if you ever go to England, be careful how far...
how fast you drive, because it's a lot faster than your speed limit,
which I believe I believe is, eh, only a hundred kilometers an hour.
Very interesting point there."
Hooky blows the intro.
PH: "Unh..."
Hooky's bassline is a bit different than the recorded version.
You can also hear Phil Cunningham on backing vocals I think.
BS: "Thank you. Fuckin' 'ell, you liked that one? What did we
do right there? Is there something...and you never heard it
before, neither?"
Hooky strums a bit more.
BS: "Okay, you might have heard this hoary old chestnut we're
about to play, it's called...it called Blue Monday. It's about the
porno channels in German hotels. Which are absolutely disgusting."
All the audience claps along to this one.
BS: "Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And, eh...you
[might as well know?] we'll be back again soon. Keep your dick
in your pants, bye bye!"
This was performed to commemorate John Peel's forty years
in radio. New Order were originally scheduled to attend, but
due to the event being postponed, were not able to be there
at the rescheduled date, so instead, they performed a song
on videotape and sent it in.
The date assigned represents the original air date, the song
was probably taped a few days before. Available in Realmedia
and as a .mp3.
For the first time ever, New Order (as New Order, that is) perfrom
(Although Daniel Butt reported that there were rumors that NO
was soundchecking this song during some of their '98 gigs)
BS: "Hallo, Jon, here's to...ah, 40 years in the business. Ehm, if
you've not played our record 20 years ago, how long is it Hooky?"
PH: "It's a long time, I know that..."
BS: (continues) "If you've not played our record all those years ago,
we wouldn't be here today, so thanks a lot.
PH: "Here's to the next 40 years, mate!"
BS: "Alright, this is a Joy Division song called Transmisson, and no
spitting, please."
What's interesting about this performance is the locale, which looks
to be at the Morris' (or is that the Gilberts'?) Macclesfield farm.
I think that's Phil Cunningham in the background (to the left behind
Barney) playing guitar, he can only be seen a couple of times. It looks
like Gillian wasn't present (or playing) during the performance.
I'd really like to know how he hooked up with New Order.
My opinion is that this is a pretty damn good version. No whoops...
well, only one.
And as noted on the Ceremony list, there's indeed a poster of Touched By
The Hand Of God hanging from one of the walls.
BS: "Thanks a lot, John. Keep on rookin'!"
Johnathan Scott sent in email to Ceremony AT the concert.
From: fourfortyfive
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:11:18
Crystal, TRANSMISSION!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:13:17
Absolutelyt amazing!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:19:23
Regret, Ceremony...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:25:49
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:38:20
Your silent face, Slow Jam
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:42:15
Close Range
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:48:29
Touched By...
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:52:06
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:02:00
True Faith
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:05:04
Temptation...fucking amazing!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:16:32
Love Will...,Atmosphere
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:23:39
Encore about 2 mins away
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:28:10
Ruined in a day
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:34:24
Rock the Shack
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:43:55
Blue Monday. END. FANTASTASTIC!
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:45:36
A work OF GENIUS
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 00:31:28 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Just heard DAT of the gig. Great stuff.
NME Review
Subject: (Fac33) From nme.com
NEW ORDER started their UK tour on home turf last night (October 4)
with their first major MANCHESTER show for nearly three years.
The band played the first night of a two-night residency at the
Manchester Apollo to a suitably packed crowd of local fans and friends.
Excepting a minor appearance to launch next year's Commonwealth Games, the
last time they played in the city was New Year's Eve 1998.
The performance, at almost two hours in duration, was unusually long for
The hometown crowd were typically wild, with vocalist Bernard Sumner
forced to ask people to move back after 'True Faith' because of fears of
crushing at the front.
He joked, "Free drinks at the bar on me. That's only if you go now."
Bassist Peter Hook responded "Fucking hell, that's a once-in-a-lifetime
Billy Corgan, who had accompanied the band on their US tour and at their
comeback show at Liverpool Olympia in July, did not appear. However,
Hooky acknowledged absent keyboard player Gillian Gilbert, calling into
the crowd, "Are you alright G? Are they looking after you in there?"
New Order return to the Apollo tonight (October 5), then play Glasgow
Barrowland (7-8), before playing three nights at London's Brixton
Academy next week (October 10-12).
The next single from 'Get Ready' has been confirmed as '60 Miles An
Hour', released on October 22.
Manchester Evening New Review:
From: "John Gardner"
'Rock legends return - New Order
WE hope you enjoy it, mused Bernard Sumner as New Order, the city's most
enduring musical export and probably its most influential, took the
stage for their first home-town gig for nearly three years.
It would have been impossible for anyone in the sell-out house not to
have enjoyed it.
They haven't changed much New Order were always the rock band dance fans
liked and the dance act rock fans could get into but at the same time,
they have, which explains why the audience comprised as many 40-somethings
who remember them first time round as it did 20-somethings.
With former Marion man Phil Cunningham standing in for Gillian Gilbert
on keyboards and guitar, that was also the case on stage.
The new album Get Ready is a bit mixed, but it does include a few gems.
One such is Crystal, which kicked off the show. Its thumping bass-line
allowed the leonine Peter Hook, whose bass is so low-slung these days it
scrapes the floor, to show off his idiosyncratic playing style.
Whereas most bands treat gigs as a chance to showcase the new stuff, New
Order, as they get older, are exhuming more and more of the Joy Division
back catalogue, with a suitably sombre Transmission being the pick.
But what everyone wanted to hear were the New Order classics. Bizarre
Love Triangle received a curious acid house treatment which didn't quite
come off, while Touched by the Hand of God was touched instead by a dollop
of funk which sounded little more than work-in-progress.
The highlight was unquestionably a majestic True Faith, with Temptation
a close second. They could only finish the gig with one track, and a
triumphant Blue Monday for which Gillian appeared duly concluded the
Some other random comments:
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:58:38
Writeup of main set only. The copy of this in my possession
doesn't have the listed encore tracks.
AW: "Arthur Baker...just give us a couple of minutes, couple
of minutes while the guys get ready cuz I just want to tell you
something about these guys. It's not all dollars and dimes.
I really love these guys, I love 'em. I love Hooky's legs,
I love Bernard's bottom, and I love Steve's mouth. Eh, you
listen...you know they've got their own musical influences,
and we're very honoured tonight to have a guest here that's
gonna be with 'em that's kind of launched them on their
career. I want to give you a big Manchester welcome to
Mr. Max Bygraves! Max."
"Max": Alright, it's not Max, it's Ken. To a fucking good
time and let New Order rock the fucking house!"
AW: "So give them a welcome....it's JOY DIVISION!"
Chants of 'New Order' can be heard.
BS: "I must apologize for, eh, Hooky's boyfriend's speech there.
It's the big guy, it's the portly guy, he likes 'em big.
Anyway, we're New Order, you're the audience, and this is
He says this through some nice-sounding feedback.
Bernard messes up on the first line and/or the vocals weren't
turned up on time.
BS: "Thank you. Wooo!"
PH: "You're very kind.
BS: "Well..." (or some similar interjection)
PH: (at the same time, making it hard to hear what Bernard said)
"It's girls, not boys."
BS: "It's not like chanting for New Order, because this is
a Joy Division song, it's called Transmission."
BS: "Okay, we're gonna play you a New Order song. This is called
Audience member says something in hard-to-decipher brogue near
the start. Levels go up around the 2:20 point.
BS: "Thank you. Fucking hard work, this, you know."
Ceremony follows.
BS: "Eh, this is...this is a song off our new album, and it's
called 60 Miles, uh, Miles An Hour, or 60 MPH ...I don't know
what that it is in kilometers, I'll let you work it out for
BS: "'ank you. So we better chill things out a little bit now,
because I don't know about you lot, but I'm getting pretty hot
up here. And you know what, I don't like getting hot. I don't
think anyone does really, do they? Well, not anyone from Manchester."
A few seconds pause.
BS: "Please welcome our new guitarist, Mr. Phillip Cunningham.
Good Northern lad. Although he's too posh for us now, he lives
in LA. Stuck up twat. Okay, this is Your Silent Face."
Playing goes a bit askew at 3:30 point.
Bernard doesn't sing the signature lines, but the fans fill it
in just fine.
BS: "Thank you very much."
Fans chant...you know what...
BS: "Bunch of Manchester United fans in here tonight. (quite a
few fans boo, it's mostly City folks) Good to hear it. I'm going
to an England match tomorrow. Good to hear it. I think I've run
out of things to say actually, you're right. This is Slow Jam,
off our new album."
BS: "Eh, this is another song off the new album, it's called
Close Range."
BS: "Thank you."
PH: "Heh heh he...three guesses [mumble]..."
Punter yells out the right answer.
PH: "Ah, you were here last night, you bastard."
BS: "Pardon? Excuse Hooky's sparkling wit there. He usually
starts the swearing at this time of night, don't approve of it
PH: "Fuck off."
BS: "See what I mean? Very...right. This is Touched By The Hand Of
Quite a few "woahs" throughout. As well as some good wah-wah from
BS: "'k you. Did you like the new dance? (chuckles) It's ridiculous,
really, ain't it [word].... W've got to do something, don't we, in between singing.
It's a bit of a hop, really innit, more than a dance.
This song is about Hooky and his boyfriend who came on earlier. Big
fat Al. Oh, sorry, big fat Ken, and it's called...Bizarre Love
PH: "Truth is stranger than fiction."
BS: "Or soon-to-be boyfriend..."
(at end)
BS: "Ohh, thank you."
Chants of...well...you know...Synth note.
BS: "Where's Hooky gone? He's like a fookin' Jack-in-the-Box, isn't he?
You'll have to put a chain 'round your leg."
PH: "It's all my youthful energy, you see."
BS: "All right, this is True Faith."
punter: "One of the best songs...Bernard..."
BS: "Thank you. You know, we never ever ever ever get the end of that
song right. And it's Hooky's fault, always."
PH: "You don't mean that, Barney..." [not 100% sure if that's what he
actually says]
BS: "Sometimes it's Steve, and sometimes it's Phil, but it's never
fucking me."
PH: "We can do it with more members of the band."
BS: "Actually, it's the audience's fault."
BS: "Okay, this is a song that you all know and love. It is Temptation."
BS: "In your one time, when you're ready.
Blood curdling scream near the end...
BS: "Thank you!"
PH: "You certainly turned me a [mumble], fuck me. Right, Andrew.
Andrew Fisher, we're all thinking about you, mate, this is for you.
I hate that fucker...one, two, three, four..."
BS: "Thank you, good night. Been a fucking great audience..."
(recording fades)
Sunday, Oct7
Rock The Shack Encore
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 00:57:12
Quality not quantity tho'.
Despite not setting off the metal detectors I was frisked anyway.
Glad I didn;t take my minidisc.
Got it in ok to the first manc night..but the band were a bit off
at points plus I had a lady with me who insisted in talking during
and between songs. ggrrrrrrrrrrrr
met up with Al and Jon and bumped into several other faces from the
manc show. Sound blokes the lot of them :-)
Onto tomorrow night we go :-D!!!
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:04:59
As already mentioned by Colin, the Glasgow gig was something a bit
special being described by one of the venue promoters as perhaps one
of the most impressive gigs he had ever seen.
Ally and myself were left in the enviable position of viewing the bands
soundcheck in the cavernous Barrowland along with perhaps only 8 others
in attendance. Bernard completed "Rock The Shack" then exited stage left
leaving the remaining members of the band to play "Crystal" with a
member of the bands crew looking after vocals. A couple of run throughs
seemed to please the band then Hooky hit us with "Transmission", again
with a management member taking care of the vox.
Jonathan Scott.
From: Deron Pease
Hi Ceremony Gang.
Just wanted to share with you my New Order Glasgow experience:
(setlist updates at end, if you want to skip my ramble)
I just got back to Boston from Glasgow and saw both shows there.
I exploited having a good friend to visit as an excuse to fly over
to see my favorite band!! Had to keep up my record of seeing them
at least once every year they've toured since 1986. right?!
The Sunday night show absolutely blew the roof off the Barrowlands!!!
It was truly amazing. We were down front-center of the stage, and
the moment the boys stepped on stage the crowd started hopping.
By the end of the first song, we were drenched, but everyone just
kept going. Later as the night went on the sweat mixed with tears of
It was quite nice of them to throw in a couple slower songs just to get
a break from the aerobics. Bernard and Hooky were totally having a
blast, smiling and telling the audience how great we were, and joking
with each other about getting old, bragging over who had the better
roadie. heh.
Brilliant show!
Afterward I waited around front trying to get a setlist or something
cool, but I had to settle for one of Bernard's plectrums.
No big deal, probably never even used, but I play guitar a bit
so I can use with the pleasure of knowing where it came from!
I have to say, I love seeing NewOrder in the UK. There seems to be
more camaraderie. More people know all the songs instead of just
the hits. When you're in the pit hopping around, everyone is
your Best friend. It's good fun!
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:43:30 EST
hey guys
i like how before "your silent face" the crowd (at least the crowd
surrounding the taper) is chanting "true faith" so my question is
whether the entire audience was chanting this, or just a part of
the crowd was chanting. Surely someone from this list attended
and can advise on this.
Al Jarvis doesn't recall hearing this, so most likely it was only
the part of the crowd around the taper.
Monday Oct8
(No Encore)
*actually I can't remember the exact placement of Atmosphere.
Everything else OK.
Report of 10/8 from Johnathan Scott.
From: "Jonathan Scott"
The Glasgow gigs were absolutely fantastic - knocking the MCR gigs well into
second place (imho) - slightly diff. set than in MCR in that the set was a
little shorter but the bands performance was phenomenal.
Great to meet many Ceremony boys at the gigs including Deron from Boston who
came looking for me after the second show.
Last nights gig was slightly marred by the lack of an encore - something
that is being blown way out of proportion by local press & radio & sadly by
some greatly misinformed "fans". I was especially happy at last nights show
as although it was my last of any major tour, Hooky dedicated "Touched by
the Hand of God" to me anouncing that "this is for Kens mate Jonathan - He's
on the slippery slope to hell..." before Barney intro'd the song as "Touched
by the Hand of...the Promoter" an "in joke" that is best left untold on
these pages...
The party at MAS was a bit of a hoot with many of the old boys dancing like
loons to the sounds of tracks old and new and most notably The Happy Mondays
& Stone Roses.
Jonathan - FourFortyFive.
From: GalacCon
They didn't do an encore on Monday night. Local radio station, Radio Clyde
got lots of calls complaining. I heard some folk saying Hooky got spat at,
and Barney too much abuse as well, which put the band in a bad mood.
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
I have to say, I love seeing NewOrder in the UK. There seems to be
more camaraderie. More people know all the songs instead of just
the hits. When you're in the pit hopping around, everyone is
your Best friend. It's good fun!
So for the Monday night show we decided to chill further back
and just enjoy the sights and sounds. I'd already had the
ecstatic gig experience, so night #2 was just gravy.
It ended up having a very different feel to it from the beginning.
I don't know...the band wasn't into it? the crowd wasn't into it?
It was a Monday night so audience wasn't rested and amp'd like they
were on Sunday? Don't get me wrong, NO sounded fantastic!!
But they weren't joking around, there were fewer hands flying in the
air, fewer Bernard "whoops!" and general banter, etc.
It ended on a bit of a bad note, with no encore and a surly boo-ing
I thought the show was still terrific, and all they were going to play
was blue monday, anyway. But it was definitely a down note, contrary
to the mile-high note of the night before. It might be interesting
to hear the different shows. Anyone record both?? :)
To top the weekend off, while I was waiting at the airport for my
flight, along walked Stephen Morris. What do you know! I gently
approached him looking picking out a book to read and chatted with
him for a while.
He had no idea (well he was going to tell) about what happened Mon
night. And about touring the US, he said "we'll see", though he said
they do like to play in CA (where I'm from and will be returning shortly).
So we just chatted a bit, I didn't want to impose too much. His
personal assistant had questions for him, etc. Unfortunately, didn't see
the others...
Though Arthur Baker was also in the airport, in fact he sat in the same
row as me on the plane from Glasgow to Heathrow, just across the aisle.
Of course I said hello to him, as well.
From http://worldinmotion.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=3334038731&f=9334038731&m=9514036241
Posted by FAC1000:
Speaking to PR Jonathon and Mass DJ Norman the news was one of the band
collapsed back stage when they came off after Transmission.
Rock the Shack (with bobby gillespie)
From: jo
owww my ears really hurt... here's what was played tonight, it was
bloody loud. And all the new songs were really distorted where I was
sat, whereas the older ones came across brilliantly
From: "spiky"
Bloody Bloody Loud!
Wasn't sure I was going to enjoy them after all this time, but a very
chirpy Bernard and a seriously posing Hook-meister made for a very memorable
set. I took 3 NO newbies along and they were as enthusiastic as the die
Roll on tomorrow night
From: Andrew Balgobin
Seconded. ear-splitting stuff, but hooky's mannerisms and barney's chat
made for a very fine gig. the roof came off the place for LWTUA.
From: "Mark"
Well, no time for a review at the mo, but the sound mix was rough as
hell : Close Range sounded awful and all over the place (I didn't
recognise it) True Faith (The intro was near enough the same) and
Rock The Shack (just terrible full stop)
More later, see you all tonight, I swear I saw some listees there...
From: "Steve Waller"
For some reason I just knew Barney was going to do the countdown in
I agree with Dan's comments on the songs, Close Range didn't really
work, and to have dropped BM, TBTHOG and True Faith wouldn't have
concerned me.
I'd also almost forgotten Barney throwing his towel into the audience
and then asking for it back.
I quite like Turn My Way, so would've been pleased to hear that.
Absolutely nothing from Technique or Low Life either - sacrilege!
(he also goes on, in a seperate message...)
I agree with the others - sound was really awful at first - just like
a wall of guitars. It did get better though. I don't think I've ever
seen the band as chirpy, and to see Hooky roaming all over the place
was an oddity - think it even surprised Barney as he told him to go back
to his corner. Other good bits of banter were Barney admitting that 60mph
isn't really that fast, giving the crowd an introduction to the melodica,
and admitting they'd made a hash of RTS before (and promptly doing it
again). Liked the cheesy lights going with the colours in Temptation.
First time I've ever seen LWTUA or Transmission, so both made it
They even had a female backing singer - whatever next - dancers?!!!
Someone remind me who introduced them? I know it's Alan something...
So, tonight would be great if we could have Dreams Never End or
Everything's Gone Green, but I think I may be disappointed!
One last thing - selling Technique t-shirts there?!! Was that
remaindered stock?
From: Daniel Butt
Agree about the sound, but it did improve, so you should be alright
tonight. Funny, cos normally the Academy's pretty good like that. I
couldn't hear much of what Barney was saying, but he was certainly
talkative. Have to get a boot and find out :) If I'm being
a couple of the bits of the set are sounding a bit over-familiar now,
TBTHOG and the Perfecto style True Faith in particular. I do think they
could do some reprogramming. Crystal and (to my slight surprise) 60MPH
were both fantastic, really rocking, and it's always great seeing NO do
a track for the first time. Ditto, of course, Your Silent Face, although
I wish now that I hadn't known they were going to play it. Still, one
of my favourite NO songs, and a real treat to hear it - and obviously
the same goes for Transmission. No "wooh!" after "we can dance", Michael!
In fact, the yelps seem to have an increasingly harder edge. Ceremony
and BLT were terrific some great riffs from the Hookmeister. Close Range
was pretty much a non-event - not my favourite song on the album, and
not a particularly good version. Wish they'd done Primitive Notion instead.
Still, gave me a chance for a breather. No "Turn My Way", thankfully.
Went off pre-encore with Barney saying something like "See you in another
15 years. Or maybe 15 minutes", which gave us a clue that we weren't going
to be in a Glasgow situation. I really enjoyed "Rock the Shack"! Barney
said they always cocked it up, and they did, although it was (allegedly)
Hooky's fault. Blue Monday was Blue Monday. "Barney: "There's one song
left. Now, which song haven't we played? It was a hit in 1981 or 2 or 3
or 4...") I really think they're wrong if they think they have to play it.
Imagine the rection if they did Perfect Kiss, or Procession, or, damnit,
Round & Round instead. Never mind - still good to see Hooky pounding
that drum thing and chucking his sticks into the audience.
Out of guilt of not paying him enough attention in the past, I spent a
goodly time watching Steve last night. The man is a legend. Many thanks
to the bizarrely mysterious benefactor who draped a (bootleg) T-shirt over
my shoulders as I was tying up a shoelace outside the front and then
disappeared. I'm wearing it now. No thanks to the absolutely-off-his-tits
goon at the front who flailed about like a drunken Cyberman, refused to
allow his legs to support his body and then had to pulled out the front
by the bouncers - only to reappear 3 minutes later. Moderate your intake,
my man.
(Chris Au says "hey, i was one of guys who helped lift him over the
barrier. he wasn't exactly impressed...")
Best moment - Temptation - Barney, "One, two, three, FOUR!"
From: Ashley Williams
They came on at 9:15 although it looked like it might be earlier but
seemed as if they were having probs with one of the bass amps (i think).
Finished at 10:50.
Tube strike starts at midnight tonight but service could be affected
earlier. Depending on where you need to get to (mainline) trains go
from Brixton to Victoria...tomorrow night should be more difficult...
(political rant deleted)
Quoting glenn cox :
From: "Sijad Malik"
they came on about 9.15 and finished about 11-ish. The tube strike
starts at midnight so you should be alright.
The sound was loud yesterday, but the vocals were way too low.
The new songs sounded shite and the audience didn't really respond,
though I thought RTS was quite good. best bit though was Temptation
followed by LWTUA, just amazing. I intend to get up at the front
Alan Wise introduces. Recording is faded up.
AW: "...Arthur Baker. You won't guess who that was. That, my friends
was Arthur Baker. Just one, just one minute of your time before the
band come on. Because I want to tell you something about them that
will touch ya. These guys love music. These guys love music. Just
today, they came up to me they said, "Dad, we want you to come and
listen to this guy." And they took me to an old tramp in Brixton.
They said, "Just listen to the beautiful music he's singing." And,
listen, he was going, "My old mum's a dustman..." Which just shows
that those fucking cunts have got no taste. Welcome, the band formerly
known as Joy Division, NEW ORDER!"
Loud chants of NU ODAH NU ODAH NU ODAH.
BS: "Hello."
Hooky interrupts, can't make it out besides "You...". Bernard talks
over it.
BS: "Sorry about that, I ain't got a clue what he wants."
Weird high-pitched female voice says, "Stand on me...I wan't to see 'em!".
BS: "Okay..."
She whines and then says, "Oh, stop it!"
BS: "It's been a while since we've played in London. Probably
going back the region of fifteen years."
Female: "Fifteen years."
BS: "But believe you me, we've done some very interesting years in our
private time. Hooky's got into Acid, 'en. Phil's gotten into
bestiality. Stephen's gotten into the Beastie Boys."
BS: "Anyway, this is Crystal."
Levels adjusted a bit downward at about 1:30. The woman continues to
scream as if she's getting crushed, it's a bit unpleasant to listen to.
BS: "Thank you! Thank you."
Weird female voice mutters in another language, sounds like Chinese.
PH: "That's very kind, you're very kind. This one's for Jane tonight, it's
you're birthday, Jane. And we know what every girl wants on her
birthday. Phil."
At 2:39, Hooky yells out (off-mic): "C'mon, you gits!"
BS: "Thank you. That was a bit of a surprise, wasn't it?"
Fade-out at this point.
BS: "I must apologize in advance for the whiteness of my trainers. They're
not brand new, but they were a gift from Adidas [drum fill], our sponsors
[cymbal crash] this evening. Only joking, we don't resort to sponsorship.
Anyway, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Thank you very much. This next one, there's a group of English people
that followed us around America recently on our tour when we supported
Moby and, erm, there's a lot of requests for Ceremony, and this is for
A few seconds while they tune up a bit, and then they get right into it.
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Wow, it's hot. You want a towel? I've not got any, anyone got one?
It's not...anyway...give it back when you've finished."
(this is where he throws his towel into the audience and then asks for
it back)
BS: Okay, this is...off our new album, it's called 60 Miles An Hour, it's
about not quite breaking the speed limit, but getting up close to it, because
we're all rebels, basically."
BS: "Thank you!"
BS mutters something, and then says, "Anyone got a towel?"
(original CD I have of this recording doesn't tracksplit here)
BS: "Okay, just to show that we're not about just throbbing guitars, this
song features a throbbing melodica. If you don't know what one of them
is, I'll show ya. This song is called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you."
Atmosphere is missing from my version.
Edit at this point. Tape misses the first part of Bernard's introduction
for the following song.
BS: "...a little bit now with a song off our new album called Close Range."
(at end)
BS: "Yo!"
PH: (menacingly) "I know I'd fucking jump at you, you tight cunt!"
BS: "We're professionals...tune up...is the first thing. Okay, this is
Touched By The Hand Of God...and it's about...God."
Really good version.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "All I can see are these fucking trainers. Everybody need a little
room? I bought them in Glasgow two days ago. Had to do something while
I was warbling off. Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle, features Ayatollah
Hook on bass, Ayatollah Morris on keyboards."
Yes, this is what he actually said, it seems...unless someone can prove
me wrong.
BS: "Thank you!"
More loud shouts of NU ODAH NU ODAH...
BS: "You know, no matter how shit you get, it's nice to hear what a great
bunch of songs we're written. Don't know if that makes you feel any better,
but it certainly makes me feel better. And I'm not being [mutters] and this
is True Faith, and we're just start fe...the gigs(?)"
(need a bit of help with the last part)
Intro funk-style guitar part is wretched. Bernard says "Whoa!" and
people exclaim a bit...maybe he's dancing again.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Well, thought that was young pants for a minute, Hooky."
PH: "He shouted, he didn't even fight me for that, you noticed."
Somebody cries for Mr. Disco.
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation. No smart comments, nothing, just a
beautiful song."
BS: "Good night(?)!"
PH: "Ready, Bernard. Tell me when."
BS: "Yeah, I'm ready, ready, ready.
PH: "Ok. No, you're wrong. 1-2-3-4!"
(probably directed at heckler, not Bernard)
Barney yells "Come on!!" about 1:45 into the track, and Hooky says
"Here we go!" about 2:12 in.
BS: "Thank you! See you again in fifteen years. More like fifteen
minutes." Fade out.
Fade in.
Some fiddling and tuning goes on before the Order start the encore.
Hooky says "Hey Hey", though it could have been Phil for all I know.
Humourously, the liner notes credit vocals to a "Billy Gillespie".
BS: "Yeah, please welcome...on stage with us, Bobby Gillespie from
Primal Scream. We're gonna do a song off our album which he's featured
on called Rock The Shack. We've played it six times, and fucked it up
every single time. Actually if you wanna spot it, his guitar solo in
the middle, let's give it another go. Here we go!"
And indeed they fuck up the intro.
BS: "Hang on...fucked up...whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. (can't make out
whatever is repeated twice after this) Peter, pay attention please!
I've gotta wait for you. Here we go, here we go again, start it,
here we go. It's punk."
I hold the minority viewpoint that this is the better of two collaborations
on the Get Ready album, but you probably wouldn't know it by listening to
this. :)
BS: "Yeah! Thank you. Bobby Gillespie, all the way from Scotland!"
BS: "Okay, let's see, what song haven't we played yet? It was a
big hit in 1981...1982...1983...1984."
PH: "Let's go on, Bernard. Hahehehe."
BS: "This is Blue Monday."
Blue Monday is performed.
Really expressive instrumentation starting at the 5:30 point.
PH: "It's nice to be back, thank you. Good night, London(?)
We could play for all bloody night, we're still up for it."
Ruined In A Day
From: "spiky"
Well night No.2 and, if I'm not mistaken, even louder and better than
last night. Not as much banter tonight, but a fantastic atmosphere
(that's the ambience not the song!)
Set was same as last night except Rock the Shack was replaced with
Ruined in a Day.
I took some pix - if they're any good I'll post them somewhere - watch
this space.
If anyone wants to go tomorrow, the scalpers/touts are knocking tickets
out at pretty much face value, and there doesn't seem to be a shortage.
From: "spiky"
Last night "Apple" and "Pears"
Tonight "Heaven" and "Hell"
Who knows what mysticism Friday will bring!
Alan Wise comperes.
AW: "You won't believe it, but the guy up there is Arthur Baker.
How we got these people, I don't know. I want to give a big thank-you
to Garlic, Garlic who performed before. Before I introduce to you
five guys who love their work, they love it, and they're here to
love it with you, they're called New Order!"
BS: "Okay, hello, we're New Order. As you know already. We'll
start the set tonight with Crystal.
Bit of a dropout at 4:55.
BS: "Thank you! Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.
Fans cheer out NU ORDAH, NU ORDAH...
BS: "If you bear with us, we're a little bit tired and emotional last
night. Well, forget the emotion. This is Transmission."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is called Regret."
Another dropout about 0:50 in, tape tracking issues.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, we're gonna hop back to the dark days of the past now.
This is probably one of the last songs we wrote as Joy Division,
and one of the very first songs we wrote as New Order. It's called
Fans chant out again...
Thank you. This is going to be our new single, which will be found
on Top Of The Pops tonight. It's called...yes, we do have two jobs,
it's called _60__Miles_An_Hour, or get if you know by phone."
(last phrase I can't fully parse)
BS: "Okay, just to chill you out a little bit noew, for my sake, we're
gonna play Your_Silent_Face."
Somebody yells out "Hooky" in a slightly muffled voice, dunno who.
BS: "Okay, we're going to keep it low-down and moody now...and then...
this is a song, my favorite song actually, Atmosphere."
Which they play.
BS: "We're gonna pick up the pace a little bit now, and uh, this is a
track off our new album Get Ready, it's called Close_Range."
Version of the song resembles the 'Dream On' demo more than the
rendition that ended up on the album, and is quite stirring.
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is Touched_By_The_Hand_Of_God"
BS: "That sound should be called 'Fucked' cuz, erm, cuz what have
they asked us for, not to mention our manager. Peter, wait till
after. He's got bored with me then."
BS: "Right, this is Bizarre_Love_Triangle"
BS: "Thank you!"
Some guitar noodling between tracks.
BS: "Okay, anyone know what we're gonna play next. One at a time,
please. This is True_Faith."
BS: "Thank you. Do you know...we've played, we played how many gigs
this week, Hooky? we played fucking six gigs this week, and we've never
gotten the end of that song right. You know what, it's always my
fault. It is."
PH: "Everything's always your fault."
BS: "Okay. [Hooky laughs] Anyway, we'll make sure we get the end of
this one right. This is Temptation."
People "oh, oh oh oh" during the verses.
I like to introduce, from Clingham, our new guitarist. Dawn Zed, there
she is, and my new, shiny new Adidas trainers. I always buy Adidas,
er, ok, whenver I go out. I find them exteremely comfortable [cymbal
crash], and since I've taken up jogging, they're the ones to run in.
[kick drum]. Not that I...feel anything. Anyway...what were we doing?
Oh, yeah, we're playing a set, aren't we. This is
PH: "We're joined by the lovely Dawn, c'mon Dawn, take a bow."
BS: "C'mon, don't be shy, Dawn."
PH: "Woooo! Get right into it, let's fucking go. 1-2-3-4!"
They perform the JD classic.
BS: "Thank you. You're a great audience. Sorry we're a little bit
fucked, but we are. Thank's a lot, you've been great!"
Hooky ends on a two-note bass vamp.
A couple of cuts during the pre-encore bit, and then a fade-out and
fade-in to the home stretch.
PH: "(I bet?) you've got thirty years in Glasgow and gotten away with
it, eh. No, fuck you, you Cockney bastards."
BS: "Oh yeah, yeah...Okay, one two one two. You want your bloody
money's worth free(?)...don't you?"
A bit of guitar soundchecking.
BS: "Okay, this is Ruined_In_A_Day."
(at end)
BS: "Yeah! All right, from Ruined In A Day to Blue_Monday. Do you
get it? Ruined In A Day. Blue Monday. Dead funny. Dead real funny.
I thought."
Bernard yells out something I can't make out at 6:25 of this.
Ruined In A Day
From: "Al Jarvis"
Everything's Gone Green!
Sadly, though it was just Arthur Baker doing the 2 former tracks, and
Hooky giving us 45 second soundbites of the latter 2, Age of Consent at
the end of the set, Dreams Never End at the end of the encores. Teasing
little minx, that he is.
As for New Order, it was just a runthrough by numbers again last night.
From: Andrew Balgobin
just got back from the gig. rough sounding to start with, improved
immensely thereafter. magic moment - barney and hooky's handshake after
a storming true faith.
GaoBest comments:
> That seems to be what people say about almost all NO gigs; why does this
> always happen with them? It felt the same at Shoreline.
Chris Au replies:
> they seemed to be having more trouble tonight than have the last two
> nights.
> barney kept signalling to someone that they were too loud.
A longer, much longer review
From: "Dave Stephenson"
Oich oich evil listees.
Brixton Academy on Friday the 12th then.......
It was my 4th New Order gig (Reading, Ally Pally and Liverpool being the
other 3) but my girlfriend's 1st. And she was pretty excited about the
whole thing in a way whcih made Beatlemania look tame. It took us 5 hours
to get from Birmingham to Brixton - mainly due to spending a total of 1 hour
in various service stations and hitting London at half past four. And as
for the last little leg round the academy - that'll be 200 yards on 45
minutes then!
But, with car safely parked in the multi storey car park and eyes overdosed
on people falling off skateboards, off we trotted to the front steps of the
academy. After 4 years I finally managed to meet up with Chris Au who, by
all accounts, is an all round top bloke. Off we headed to a local hostelry
where I suddenly realised that I had been transported into an episode of
late 80's Channel 4 sitcom Desmond's. After watching the pub fill up with
both types of New Order fans (spotty students and football hooligans),
hearing the words "Jonathan Scott" far too often and with Candice
"entertaining" random old men with her drunken dancing (she hadn't eaten
bless her) we decided to make the short hop skip and jump over to the main
OK, so it was 2 hours until New Order were due to go on stage but we did get
to listen to a band called "Haven" (I think) who were "OK" and then we got
Arthur Baker "mixing". Ahhhh, now I expect you're all sat there going "no
you young fool - he wasn't supposed to be mixing like they do in Gatecrasher
and places - go and eat a piece of wood and behave" but I was personally
impressed with AB. Because he managed to build up a fantastic atmosphere
through his choice of rekkids. Candice and I arsed about with some
"hilariarse" hard house dancing while Thieves Like Us was played and a whole
host of "Wow - I haven't heard this record since I was this high" type stuff
came on. Our apologies to Chris for making it look like you were standing
with two spazmongs.
Anyhooooooo. After far too long a wait (it was half 9 by the time they
arrived) New Order took the stage and so began the best gig I've seen them
play. Not because it was technically brilliant or because the renditions
of the songs they did were better than usual - it was just the fact that
they were enjoying themselves so much. Candice did in fact behave like a
12 year old girl at a Westlife concert. Now, I'm no expert on these
matters but I find it quite disturbing that a 25 year old woman swoons at a
fat sweaty old man. But swoon she did and jumped around like Zebbedee when
60MPH, TBTHOG and True Faith made an appearance. We managed to make a
small hole for ourselves in front of the dividing railings between the stage
and the mixing desk so we had a good view whilst still being able to
Crystal is a fantastic opening song. BUT if you are going to open with it
you need to take out the intro piano. It just needs to open with that
guitar assault. Cos that's why Regret works so well to start off with -
instant audience connection. Atmosphere was majestic as ever (although
Candice finds JD depressing and so pretended to hang herself. I don't
think that went down too well with the JD fans behind us!) and Transmission
rocked. Close Range was also also a belter. Now there came a small
problem though. Earlier in the gig we'd lost Chris who'd run off to the
front so that he could get battered and bruised in the infamous New Order
mosh pit. Fortunately he arrived back at our little haven of space as
Temptation came on. There was I, admiring the cheesey blue / green / grey
eyes lighting, bouncing like a mad loon and singing along at the top of my
little voice when BOSH - goodnight Vienna. A lack of food, two pints of
lager, no water intake and the heat made me pass out like a big girls
blouse. No, it wasn't the sight of Hooky's trousers. Honest. So,
there's me lying on the floor in the middle of a few hundred people and
Candice is trying to pick me up. After about 30 seconds I come round and
stand up. "Right" I say. "Lets get to the side so I can get some air"
And off we trundle when WHOOMPF down I go again. Yes, I really am that
shandy arsed. If it wasn't for Mr. Au being there then I'd have spent the
rest of the gig on the floor cos I was literally out cold and NO-ONE was
helping at all. Candice said afterwards that the people around us just
went "oh look, he's fainted", turned round and kept on moshing. But Chris
and Candice managed to haul my carcass to the side and bring me round.
There are benefits of going out with a nurse!
Security came and let us outside for a bit which gave me some air and woke
me up again. So back in we went just in time for the encore. Anyways,
HUGE thanks to Chris for your help - from both of us. Much apologies for
interrupting the gig for you and if there is any damage to your funky
flashing shirt from me being a heavy twunt to carry then let me know and
I'll send you a cheque. Hope you got home OK as well - would have loved to
give you a lift but it would have added an extra couple of hours to our
journey - evil London traffic! We didn't get back until 4:30 anyway! Was
great to finally actually meet you in person - and we'll have to do it again
sometime. Especially if you know people up in Shrewsbury - the
entertainment capital of England ;-P.
The gig was fantastic though. Gillian and Kim dancing along behind the
rest of em as well. And it looks to me that New Order are enjoying
themselves so much that there's at least one more album in them. *Fingers
Fainting Jack
The intro to this gig comes to you from Alan Wise. I was able to
match it to this night due to the writing on the monitor stacks.
(from audience recording)
AW: "...no fucking microphone. I can't believe that that's Arthur
Baker up there, everyone. Arthur Baker, a round of applause. Arthur
baker, the producer. How do we get people like that?"
(the video version starts here)
AW: "Many years ago, I met four young boys, and one young girl. Who
had their owns minds they wanted to do it their way. They wanted to do
it differently than everyone else. And they came to me and said, "Al,
can you help us?". Ha. And now they've done three nights here, and if
they could, they'd like to do another six. But can someone, someone
tell them where else they can play? Just send a message in to their
agent. I want to introduce to you a band that used to be known as,
you all know this, used to be called Joy Division, you all know it!
And now they got a new name, yeah, they're now called, welcome on
stage, those fabulous guys from...New Order!"
BS: "What was all that about, then? I don't understand what he was
saying. Hallo. We are New Order. And we're going to play for
you tonight a set that's gonna make you jump up and down. Starting
with Crystal."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
PH: "Thank you. I want to dedicate this one to my daughter, she's
three today. God bless her!"
BS: "Thank you. I'd like to dedicate that to Pete Tong as well,
whose been a big help up here. Nice one, Pete."
Chants for New Order...
BS: "All right, I'm knackered now. Can we go off?"
Hooky mumbles something I can't make out while Bernard's speaking.
BS: "Can't wait until...[mumble]...a break, young cunt!"
PH: (interrupting again) Eh, John Sims is in the house, Johnny!
Get up, Johnny or what, give 'em a break, you old codge."
BS: "I can't wait for the slow ones. All right, this is Regret."
(at end)
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Eh, I got a bit more energy tonight, thank God. I apologize
for the game last night, it was all my fault. Actually, it was all
Bobby Gillespie's fault. Okay, this is Ceremony.
PH: "I'd just like to, eh...24/7 party people..."
BS: "Thank you!"
All right, oh fuck, we dropped down again. Well, I was just going
to introduce you to Phil, our new guitarist, but I've just decided
to sack him! [drum] What you looking at, Roger? You fucking sack
[won't us]?"
PH: "You're not careful, we'll all sack you..."
Bernard ignores him.
BS: "So give him one more chance. All right, it's Phil Cunningham
actually. Used to be in a band called Marion. [guitar] Okay, this
is off our new album. I'm sure my record company would like to
announce that it'll be our new single. Hopefully, you'll all buy
it. It's called _60__Miles_An_Hour."
BS: "I Was gonna suggest that all the people up there get up and
move around, but we're gonna play a slow one now, so we'll save
it 'till later."
More chants of New Order...which Bernard reacts to.
BS: "That's a horrible tune you know you sing. Can't you think
of a better tune? Like New OrDEH! This is Your Silent Face."
At the 2:30 point, Bernard exclaims, "C'mon Hooky[?] [can't make out,
delivered in a growl-type voice]" to what I presume must be somewhat
deficient playing.
Some strumming at the end, and the sound of a guitar lead getting
BS: "Well, a small technical problem up here, so please bear with
us for a few seconds while we work it out. We're a very professional
group, with a very professional set of roadies which are currently
working on the problem. There you go! Okay, this is Atmosphere."
PH: "One, two, three, four..."
Tape edit at this pint.
BS: "This is a fast song off our new album, it's called Close Range."
Tape dropout at about 1:35 or so.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Oh, it's got a bit hot now, innit. It's very hot for the time of
year. It's October, you know. Being from Manchester, we're not
used to the sort of sunny weather you get down here in London."
BS: "Okay, this is...eh, yeah, let's tune up.
PH: "Where's [can't make out]... So civilized, unlike you fuckers."
BS: "All right, Touched_By_The_Hand_Of_God."
Long pause at end.
BS: "Fucking hell, it's hot. Then again, I'm a right moaning
bastard. Okay, are you ready chaps? Okay, this is Bizarre
Love Triangle."
Initial bass note is discongruously loud.
Some piano tinkles.
BS: "Okay, I like...I'd like to dedidcate...another dedication, there's
lots tonight. I'd like to dedicate this song to John Sims, who is
playing me in the film 24 Hour Party People. Actually, not to him but
to his new, erm, little boy Ryan. C'mon, give it a bit! Will ya?
Three, ya, you've got two. Just wait until the end, it's just started
All right, ok. True Faith."
(at end)
BS: "It's the first time we've ever gotten the fucking end of that song
right. Well, I get it right every night, but they fuck it up every night.
BS: "Any Manchester United fans here?"
Initial cheers, than loads of boos.
Hooky laughs.
BS: "You're just fucking jealous (of us), aren't you? All right,
this is Temptation."
Okay, well...hope you're having a good a time as I am. Trying to
think of something witty to say [something], but couldn't. Anyway,
this is, erm, going to be our last song, I'm afraid...and it's
Love Will Tear Us Apart.
BS: "When you're ready Hooky, when you're ready. I've only waited
two [somebody talks at the same time]...one two THREE FOUR!"
(at end)
BS: "Thank you, and thanks for waiting for so long and standing
by us. You're a great bunch of fans, I mean that!"
Hooky ends things with a two note melody that persists for a while...
and then he plays the bassline to Age Of Consent! Everybody claps
PH: "Only joking, you miserable Cockney cunt."
Punter around the taper yells out "Wanker".
BS: "Hooky's still there, is he? Has anyone got any deodorant, it's
a bit hot up here. Andrew [something], if I fuck up this guitar, you're
in trouble, mate. Okay, we're gonna challenge you a little bit with a
very rocky song called Rock The Shack."
Hooky comes up with a bassline otherwise not heard in the song.
BS: "'ank you!"
BS: "Okay, okay. Now we've deafened you with all those noisy guitars,
we're going to groove you with some noisy bass drums. This is Blue
BS: "Thank you, you've been fucking great. So have we. Or pretty good."
Hooky then plays the bassline to Dreams Never End, initially playing
it on the wrong fret. And then he plays something else, quite a
lovely melody that I can't place....but it eventually starts cutting
out. I find that these are the highlights of the show.
From: "spiky"
Opened with storming Crystal, followed by an ok Regret and closed with a
great 60mph and a crowd pleasing LWTUA.
Briefly interviewed with nothing hugely interesting said, but a clip of
them performing Blue Monday live on Top of the Pops in 1983 (nice haircuts
Quick interview with Jeremy Vine who interviewed them in The Big Issue
in August, and John Simms who plays Barney in the 24 Hour Party People
movie. Bernard or Hooky shouted out that they gave the movie 6 out of 10.
Have recorded on VHS - will encode relevant parts to MPEG1 if anyone's
got some webspace to host it for all to enjoy. Contact me privately if so.
Transcription. Not very exciting.
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "Regret" (can't quite make this out)
60 Miles An Hour
BS: "Thank you!"
BS: "'ack you very much, we'll play one more song for you tonight,
which is an all-time favorite for us. It's a Joy Division song, called
Love Will Tear Us Apart."
The last part of the performance is marred by rolling credits.
BS: "Thank you! Thanks a lot!"
Some mentions on the Ceremony list:
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Antoine's
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 02:43:17 +0100
Emmm. WONDERFUL Paris gig.
Encore was Rock The Shack, Ruined In A Day, "Blue Fucking Monday" as
> http://www.new-order.net/no/audio/iv/851210-barney_speaks_french.mp3
Don't have time right now, I gotta get a new bone-breaking session
tonight. They came onstage with Barney going like : "Je m'appelle
New Order, Je m'appelle Bernard, Je m'appelle Pierre, Je m'appelle
Stephane, Je m'appelle Phil Cunningham, Jem'appelle Crystal." -
also I was right in front of Bernard, like 2nd or 3rd row,
+with me head emerging from the whole audience (1m90) and bernard
staring at me in the eyes during two third of the gig, finally
pointing at me and admitting he never looked at me in a sexual
way in his life before :op
Just before Transmission, he mocked at a guy wearing some bootleg Joy
Division Tshirt, asking some guys where they were from ("Scotland",
they shouted) and asking them what they wanted the band to play "no
no we don't play Age Of Consent anymore..." Favorite bit was True Faith
(with some additional Barney guitar riffs during the intro) and weakest
moment was Bizarre Love Triangle cos I thought the song was slowed down
a bit (in fact it seemed the whole set was slowed down), Bizarre Love
Triangle, being one of my favorites, was not at its highest musical
potential. Hook stayed for a minute or so at the end of LWTUA, playing
bass for the song, the crowd chanting the chorus. Nice. At the encore,
Bernard came back with his coat on, tlling the crowd he was ready to leave
already, some roadie took his coat off, and then, as he was finishing
with the synth bits during Blue Monday, the roadie put his coat on as
he was still playing, and then he just left. It seems to me the set
was beautifully rendered, it looks like they didn't fucked up one song
at all. The beginning of the show was a bit injuring, everybody got
crushed, I thought I couldn't stand it really. It went quieter during
Your silent Face and Atmosphere, thank god :o)
Rock The Shack, despite being nicely played, didn't seem to gain much
interest from the audience. But all in all the band wasn't very talkative.
Hook performed his whole old floor-sweeping bass routine.
From: "Mike Serieys"
Like, wow.
Right in front of Hooky throughout, who was regularly looking straight
at me. My yells throughout of 'C'mon Hooky' were probably something to
do with it, but still. Was hoping to get the drumstick, but he inexplicably
gave it to someone in front of Barney.
Amusing bits as follows:
Anyway, just wish I could afford to go tonight, but hell, there's always
France Inter.
My second NO concert, and definitely better than the last one.
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Antoine's
Report from gig by Antoine:
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:50:30 +0100
Was too lazy to turn the computer on when back home, to give you
tids'n'bits about my bithday gig. Nov, 12th, that is. So here they
Same same same same. Not as good as sunday's gig.
Your silent face BEFORE Atmosphere, not AFTER.
What about a change, Bernard. Noticed most of the audience weren't
huge huge fans. Some came here to see some 80's band perform. A
french guy said "see you in 14 years !" - a Brit fellow said "Sack
Phil, he's pants"
Bernard introduced TBTHOG as a song to calm things a bit down.
(WAHAHAHA) Some french twat spoiled me fun complaining about me
bouncing way too much (hell where does he think he was in ? a tea
room ? There were seats over at the balcony, you c*nt !)
Encore was RTS, RIAD, BM. Bernard introducing Blue Monday as Fucking
Blue Monday, played 5.000 times... bla bla. I mean if they don't want
it played, they shouldn't play it.
Fave bit was True Faith, again. Love that guitar. Weakest was BLT. Pah.
Introduced Phil in the middle of the gig, and then saying again, as on
sunday "je m'appelle Bernard, je m'appelle Chtophen" (hey we are in
France, not germany, bernard) "je m'appelle Hooky !"
I'm glad they took over that big fat bastard. Man, this guy should be
topic of a documentary. This time, he came with Bananas over his
shoulder, he's had the same jacket and pants for years, he came with
a girl he must have annoyed backstage, she was here to translate.
"they're not the rolling stones, they're not bananas, they fucking
new order !"
Hook doesn't even smile a bit - Phil is a good guitarist really. Steve
was mostly surrounded by smoke and the lights. Couldn't see him easily
from down the front. Hook stayed to perform a couple of notes more from
LWTUA, and Bernard came to turn off his bass amp. Bernard spotted reading
lyrics from the monitors during Your Silent Face. Someone asked for the
"Kiss Of Death" - Bernard wasn't too pleased to hear my request for
"Vivid". :p
Something I noticed. I looked at Bernard's mouth during Temptation cos
that old topic came to my mind... [...] from above hurt/hit/whatever
the people down below. I looked at what he was saying, and I tend to
think it was a V. As in Volts.
Gig was not as good. Bernard enjoyed I think, but I found it was a bit
difficult at the beginning... I don't know.
>> The setlist is the same as yesterday, there will be 1 song less in
>> the encore... Probably RTS or RIAD, since they always play Blue
>> Monday...
So the encore was a three song set, really. RTS, RIAD, BM.
Also, yes there was some altercation between some british fellow
and Hooky - I think Bernard indeed said something to the extent
of "we'll send you president bush"
"Sabine's lover" confirmed that Gillian was backstage during this
consert, and that parts of this concert were broadcast over FM.
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:18:50 +0100
> Ally said:
BWAHAHA. Actually, that was on Monday, i was a bit disappointed
that I thought I could piss Bernard off a bit. Vivid was the only Electronic
song that came to my mind so it could be easily heard as a short single
word. Bernard ignored it, but I saw at his face he wasn't too pleased...
Pah !
I had two tracks on MP3 probably mastered from the FM broadcast.
"Ceremony" and "Fucking Blue Monday". The Ceremony track has some
French announcer saying a few words at the end. Throw in Transmission
and Atmosphere as well.
I've since gotten the whole set (CD of the FM broadcast) There's also a
very rare French promo with the entire soundboard also in existence)
BS: "Bonjour. That's what I'm going to show you now. Supposed to be in
Paris at the end. One two one two one two. Okay, We're going to start off
the set tonight with a song off our new album, it's called Kristal"
(Bernard pronounces the song title like a french word)
BS: "Thank you! Merci Beaucoup."
French announcers talk at this point.
BS: "We're going to continue with a...a very old song of ours by
Joy Division. It's called Transmission."
This one sounds huge. Lots of feedback.
As the song ends, the announcers chatter.
Barney whoops.
Bs: "It's a lot hotter than last night."
BS: "This is Regret."
Audio distorts here. This happens at a couple other points in the
What sounds like an edit between the last track and this one.
BS: "Thank you!"
_60__Miles_An_Hour (at the end of Ceremony)
The MP3 version has this:
BS: "Okay, we're gonna get things, erm, a bit more contemporary with our...
this is, eh, 60 Miles An Hour from our new one."
(wonder if this is from the previous night)
The CD of the FM broadcast has this:
Okay, this is a track off our new album and it's called 60 Miles An Hour."
BS: "Thank you."
French announcer talks. Very annoyingly, he talks over Bernard making
the following a bit difficult to make out.
BS: "This is (stress us?). Okay we're going to slow things down a little
bit now. Eh, This is a very old song called Your Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you."
(French transcription is probably very off, I know)
BS: "I hope you're enjoying yourselves. Eh, tripping up. Eh, je ne paux
Bernard, je ne paux Stephan, Je ne paux Hooky. [Hooky says a couple of words
but is interrupted]
BS: "Forturnately, I can't speak any better French than that, except,
eh, 'voules voux [couple of words] si vous ples' This is Atmosphere!"
PH: "Alex! Alex [name-ends in 'enberg']...wherever you are, this is for you.
BS: "'k you!"
More French announcer chatter, again talking over Bernard.
BS: "Now we're gonna play a very contemporary-sounding New Order one here...
this is a song called Close Range."
BS: "Thank you, merci beaucoup."
BS: "Thank you very much. Okay, ...say we'll play another song for a little
bit because... [can't make out rest of sentence due to the damn annoucers]...
but we're not going to, we're going to play a song called Touched By The
Hand Of God."
BS: "Thank you. This is the last song before... [again, can't make out
due to the damn announcers]"
PH: [can't make out due to announcers]
BS: "Okay, this is Bizarre Love Triangle."
They play BLT.
BS: "Thank you. We're having(?) a lot harder time than the the audience.
Why don't you all want us to play next. True Faith? All right, then
you've got it."
BS: "Thank you. You having a good time? We're having a fucking great time. And
we are in need of Bez(?) in time for the party after the show. I can assure you.
Just cuz we [two words] we can tune up please. In the past I noticed it's very
professional in the past we would have done it but not tonight...it's extra."
PH: "Asshole."
BS: "Fucking others in tune. Must be Phil fucking up here. Okay, this is
They play Temptation.
BS: "Thanks a lot. Thank you very much."
Very nice acoustic-type intro to this one. The announcers on the FM
version proceed to talk all over it, bah. Barney yells "Come on!"
about 3:12 in (3:42 on the FM version).
BS: "Thank you very much! You've been a fucking great audience.
It's great to be back in Paris. It's a beautiful city, and you've
been a beautiful audience. Thank you everyone!"
Before the track cuts out, the French announcer on the FM broadcast
says "It's fucking New Order". (not present on the FM version, though)
Haha. The announcers greet Barney and Hooky, who come backstage.
Barney expresses his surprise that they're recording.
Here's Bernard's intro, which is going in the quotes file:
BS: "It's a fucking Blue Monday. I dread the day we ever fucking wrote
it. Played it five thousand times. I never liked it in the first fucking
place (at this point, Bernard is breaking down in giggles)...no, it's
(the concert was played on a Monday)
The keyboard intro sequence gets flubbed. And the vocals are pretty
flat, or alternate into the sort of singing he does on Get Ready.
But the instrumentation at the end is a bit different than normal,
and the quality here is superb.
About 3:30 in Barney starts talking to somebody. What about?
BS: "Hi, Andy. How are you? Ball's at a soft spot here, you know."
Barney sings the 'now I stand here waiting' part repeating waiting, as
if it was being echoed.
And as things finish up:
BS: "Thank you! You've been fucking great! Thank you!"
Ends in feedback.
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Nicholas
LeBlanc's message to Ceremony:
From ESPN (info sent by Robert L.):
Sumner stuns Berliners with 1966 taunt
Bernard Sumner shocked fans at a concert in Berlin this week (Nov
15th) when he dedicated a song to David Beckham and taunted them about
the 1966 World Cup final.
Sumner, lead singer of New Order, was greeted by cheers when he welcomed
Germany's qualification for next year's finals - they beat Ukraine in a
play-off on Wednesday.
But those cheers soon turned to boos when he reminded the German crowd
how England had beaten them 4-2 in the 1966 final.
'You didn't win in 1966,' quipped Sumner, an avowed Manchester United
fan, before bassist Peter Hook intervened to assure the outraged
audience that Sumner was only joking.
But memories of their one-sided, 5-1 defeat by England in a World Cup
qualifying match in Munich in September were clearly still raw for many
in the audience.
Introducing the band's hit song 'Touched by the hand of God', Bernard
Sumner said: 'This song is dedicated to David Beckham - touched by the
foot of God'.
Any bad feelings, though, were quickly forgotten as the Manchester band,
best known for their hits 'Blue Monday' and 'True Faith', put in a
storming performance.
Happily for Anglo-German relations, New Order did not play 'World in
Motion', the song they wrote with Keith Allen for England's World Cup
soccer campaign in 1990.
summary: overall, an outstanding performance with excellent sound
one of the best of the modern era.
BS: "Of course we are New Order. Hello, Berlin! I'm sorry it's been
so long since we played here last. It's not your fault, I assure you.
It's, eh, nobody's fault. But hopefully, we're going to make up for it
tonight and play a great set of songs, starting with Crystal."
(Barney strums guitar once or twice though this mini-speech)
BS: "Thank you!" (bass strum) "Thanks a lot. It's really good to
be back here. Seriously."
PH: "Here we go."
BS: "Okay, this is a song by Joy Division called Transmission."
Bernard (slightly) flubs the opening guitar intro.
Funny to hear Bernard yell "and we can daaaaaaaaaaaaanceeeee!".
BS: "Thank you. Danke schun."
BS: [sigh-squeals] "Okay, we're gonna return now with something a
little bit more contemporary, from 1993 anyway, that's contemporary
for us. This is Regret."
BS: "Thank you! No, we're not playing Blue Monday tonight, Peter
doesn't want to play it. I do, but he doesn't, so..."
PH: "You know what I say fucking goes!"
Good rendition, ends in guitar rattle.
BS: "Thank you! Okay, having a good time, everyone having a good
time? Great. So are we. Sounded oh so sincere though, didn't it?
Anyway, this is 60 Miles An Hour off our new album, Get Ready.
Oh yeah, it's our new single as well. I'm sure the record company
would like us to say that, and on behalf of them, I do."
BS: "Thank you very much. Okay, we're gonna chill things out a
little bit now because we're, we're all getting a bit carried away
ourselves as well, and eh, yeah. This is called Your Silent Face,
which was very influenced by Kraftwerk."
BS: (later on in the intro) "Think of Bavaria."
BS: "Thank you. Also thought that was a German-sounding tune, I
dunno why. And this one is a very English-sounding tune, it's called
Atmosphere, it's a Joy Division song."
PH: "What if we scream at your pub. 1-2-3-4."
(is that what he's really saying?)
NO play the JD chestnut.
BS: "Thank you. we'd like to dedicate that one to, erm, a very
good old friend of ours, who was Ian Curtis. Rest in peace, Ian,
rest in peace."
BS: "Back to our new album, this is a track off it called Close Range."
Very good rendition, better than the LP version.
Skip at 4:31 on my CD copy.
BS: "Thank you. I'm fucked. I'm fucked, but we're gonna play another
one of those jump up and down songs. And it's about an English
footballer called Davey Beckham. (cheers turn to boos). Have we
got any England fans here tonight? Only joking, only joking! Listen,
Germany won last night, so you'll get your own back in the World Cup,
I'm sure. But remember, we beat you in 1966, which wasn't so long
ago." (more booing)
PH: "He's only joking."
BS: "All right, I'm only joking. This is Touched By The Foot of God."
Cracking good version.
BS: "Thank you. I'm so polite, aren't I. I say 'Thank you' at the
end...end of every song. That's cuz I'm glad it's over. Only joking!"
BS: "Okay, you notice that I do not have a guitar for this song.
Can you guess what song it's going to be? I take that as a 'no'
then (laughs). This is, eh, Bizarre Love Triangle. It's about
a re...a...a relation me and Hooky and our wives had. It was
very bizarre."
lyric: "I feel fine, I feel good...I feel like a piece of wood."
BS: "Merci beucoup. (grunts) Listen, Phil. That was only a fucking
joke right, don't get any ideas right, you're not my type (cymbal crash,
good one Steve!) At the moment."
BS: "Okay what songs you want to hear next. It's up to you.
(folks shout out whatever) Sorry, what? (more shoutouts for
whatever) I think you're saying 'True Faith', so this is True Faith.
If you think the audience has a lead on selecting which songs
New Order will play, you're even more deluded than the punters
in Berlin.
Very good guitar intro here.
PH: "Tell you what. I'm fucking warm but you must be boiling. Because
you got your fucking coat on, I can't believe it."
PC: "coat on?"
BS: "Hooky, there's no need to swear, you know. I must apologize for
Peter's foul language, you'll never hear me fucking swearing like that.
Okay sighs okay, just having a breather. I'll tell you what, I just
gotta tune the guitar up...someone's just been stabbed?"
PH: "Very important, tuning, I hope you have the competence for it."
BS: "I know how to tune guitars up."
PH: "In Manchester, if we don't tune them, we ain't performing."
BS: "Okay, I'm in tune. You in tune, Hooky?"
PH: "I am in tune, Bernard, yes."
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
PC: "Thank you."
BS: "Thank you."
BS: "Okay, this is the last song we're afraid, but it's a cracker."
Has acoustic guitar opening. Hooky SCREAMS out, "Let's go!", with
Bernard "C'mon"'ing the audience at least three times before Hooky
belts out a "Here we go!" at the bridge.
BS: "Thank you very much! You've been a fucking great audience.
It's the Berlin, you've been fucking great."
BS: "We, we never ever ever do encores, but on this one evening we'll
make an exception. We did, well we did in Paris as well and London
and Manchester. Okay, we're gonna start with a ve...a very, guitar-based
song, and we're gonna finish with a synthesizer-based song just to show
our virtuosity. Okay, this is Rock The Shack."
A very good rendition. Hooky does backing vocals. No Gillepse to
sing the second verse.
BS: "Thank you. All right, for those of you who don't guitars, this
is called Blauer Montag."
Wow, this sounds really really good. Has a sample of the old vocoder
lines in it, too.
There's a brief cut at 1:33 that I think was put out by the broadcast,
as all known copies seem to have it.
Bernard "hey, heys" shortly before 2:00, and whistles at about 2:08.
And this from TJ:
BS: "Naked saunas.....marching music......"
From webcast of this concert (224k RealVideo)
A fan says that despite the official reports, the Order's
performance was, after the first few songs, sloppy and
error-ridden. I tend to agree with this assessment.
In other words, this is a classic performance. If I wanted
pitch perfect renditions, I'd just stick to the records.
I also have a CD, that may have been taken from a lossy source
(maybe from the webcast stream). This version cuts out much
of Bernards between-song dialogue, which is a shame.
The encore features a slight change, with Ruined In a Day
appearing -after- Blue Monday, as the last song.
BS: "Sorry to keep you waiting, but we're only 20 minutes late.
We played in Berlin last night, and we made the unfortunate
mistake of going to a nightclub. So we're a bit tired and a
bit emotional, but we'll do our best for you. This is Crystal."
Bernard waves and kisses to somebody out in the audience before
going into the opening riff. I guess he's replaced his woo's
with yelled "whaoas" and "heys". Hooky gets into it as well,
too...one of the more emotional and energetic performances of
this soon-to-be-classic that I've heard. A whistle near the
end, too.
BS: "Thank you! Thank you very much."
Bernard almost makes it through the opening riff without a
mistake. ;-) Hooky's vocals are very prominent during the
chorus. And Stephen Morris is still the hardest-working
drummer in rock.
BS: "Danke schun. Of course, that was about Radio Angst live.
My favorite radio station, Radio Angst...and uh, my favorite
trainers, Adidas trainers, they're gone at the moment...
not that we're sponsored by anyone, but eh, I just really
like 'em. (guitar strum) Okay, we're gonna bring, erm, that
was a Joy Division song. (turns to backstage, says 'feedback')
All but 'danke schun' are missing from the CD version I have.
BS: (continues): "That was a Joy Division song called Transmission,
I'm getting a lot of feedback up here...but this is a New Order
song called Regret."
NO play Regret.
BS: "Thank you. (guitar strum) You having a good time?
Surprisingly, we've having a good time. We've been on tour for
a whole week now, and I'll tell you it's taking it out of us.
(turns to his right and says "hasn't it?") Even Phil."
(by 'it' does he mean "a lot"...I suppose so)
The camera pays an unusual amount of attention to Phil C.
Hooky vocals pretty loud during the chorus here as well.
Bernard flubs the first couple of notes during the solo.
Otherwise, very good version....
BS: "Thank you! Jerry, can you set...ehm, give me more sound?
Danke schun."
BS: (continues): "Okay, this is a track off our new album,
it's called "60 -Kilometers- Per Hour. (drums...few seconds pause)
1 2."
Hooky rolls up his sleeves as Bernard starts singing.
After he finishes out the tune with some guitar F/X, Barney
pumps his fist up in the air and screams "Yeah!"
BS: "'ank you. All right, we're gonna kill it down a little bit
not, a bit less time...a lower octane of song, ehm, we're gonna
play a song off eh...Power, Corruption, and Lies...eh, think it's
that's right, Steve?...Power, Corruption, and Lies...called
Your Silent Face."
Of course, Phil handles the keyboard part for that one, quite
admirably. Bernard's melodica is ok too. ;-) I think Hooky
almost was going to play his part a bit early... During this
song, you can clearly see that Bernard is wearing earplugs,
which I first saw at around the time of the Jools Holland
performance. I think they don't detract at all, I mean,
Sinead O'Connor got away with them. Barney start's doing a
silly guitar-in-hand dance near the end of the tune.
BS: "Thank you! (strum) I just got to tune notes, so bear with
us. (spends a few seconds tuning his guitar) Shit, does anyone
else tune a guitar up? I've done it."
BS: (continues) "Okay, we're gonna play a song that we've...I don't,
to my knowledge, I don't think we've ever played in Cologne before...
we have, we actually played it once as Joy Division. This is a Joy
Division song, and it's called Atmosphere."
Camera for the first time cuts to the audience, who are all waving
their hands. No lighters, though. A bit of a cut-out in terms
of the audio, right at the end of the the second verse, before
the "People like you..." part. One "hey" after the "abandoned
too soon" line.
After the song ends, Barney whispers something in Hooky's ear.
BS: "Okay, now we've chilled you out a little bit, we're gonna tee
you off a little bit. Erm, and we're gonna play eh, a fairly uptempo
song off our new album, and it's called Close Range."
The webcast breaks up a bit right when Bernard is about to sing.
Speaking of which, Bernard ends up yelling quite a few lyrics, I
don't know if they were having monitor problems. New drum pattern,
or technical glitch...by the end of the song, they pull themselves
together again...taking the advice of the lyrics, heh...except right
at the end, Bernard is left hanging to dry, as everybody else stops
playing when he continues to sing...he makes a face, goes "ha ha",
and says:
BS: "Thought there was another chorus! Jerry, can you just..
I think it just might be compressing a little bit much, that could
be the problem... [I think he's talking about his mic]. We should
put another chorus on the end of that. Thank you, thank you."
(doesn't appear on the CD I have)
BS: "Okay, this is a song called Touched By The Hand Of God, and
we've gonna get our resident DJ, Mr. Arthur Baker, who produced this
song, to do a bit of on-llne DJ'ing for us."
Camera cuts to Arthur Baker in front of a pair of turntables,
scratching, of all things, which you can barely hear. The webcast
cuts off a bit in a couple places, pity. Bernard does a "1 2 3 4"
before the last round of chorus.
BS: "Thank you, Arthur. And numero uno DJ, uh, Mr. International"
AB: "What's that, what did you say? Thank you folks!"
BS: "All the way from New York City...Boston....right."
BS: (taking a towel) "Ohahh, it's fucking hot here...we had a bit
of a wild night last night so we're all a bit fucked. Anyway...
(Hooky guffaws...feedback screeches) here's a guitar...(more feedback)
BS: "Here's a song that doesn't contain any guitars whatsoever,
for those of you of the dance music fraternity. This is
Bizarre Love Triangle."
Webcast starts cutting off a bit. Barney actually jumps at
one point, and starts dancing later. Scary.
At the end of the song, Hooky goes up to Barney and whispers
something back to him, grabbing onto him
BS: "We've got a wheelchair...or a stretcher. Thank you, danke
schun. (piano notes)" Barney takes a sip of something.
(left off of the CD version I have)
BS: "This is True Faith."
Hooky comes in a bit early, and his bass has an amazing amount of
chorus on it. Sumner's guitar sounds especially funky. Too bad
the stream breaks up a bit again, so I can't make out what Hooky
blurts out..."W6N...". Nice touch, yelling out "of the things that
cost you too much!" Of course, this has the "taking drugs with me"
line. Hooky starts freeranging. Barney screams out "so demanding"
as well.
BS: "Merci beaucoup, danke schur."
Crowd starts yelling for Temptation.
BS: "Temptation it is then, you've got it!".
Neat...when Barney starts singing "oh you've got green eyes, oh
you've got blue eyes, oh you've got grey eyes" the lights change
colors to match. The latter guitar solos actually have a bit
of wah-wah on them.
BS: "Yeah!!"
BS: (points off in the direction of the audience)
"I've like to apologize to all the people stuck behind the pillars
over there. If you all come and see me after, hello...sorry about
that, that's disgusting, I'll give you your money back, if you come
and see me after the show, I'll give you your money back. If you
can find me."
Barney swaps guitars...for the next tune, instead of his Gibson SG,
he has a Rickenbacker, with a capo on the second fret."
BS: "Okay, we're gonna finish with a very special song."
Barney yells out "C'mon" a couple of times during one one of
the choruses, with Hooky screaming "Here we go, Cologne!"
The webcast desyncs a bit again, bad enough for the audio
to completely cut out. What's strange is that Hooky's bass
starts slowing down, almost like it's prerecorded (but it's
BS: "Thank you. You've been a fucking great audience. I
enjoyed it much more than the Robbie Williams concert. Is there
any Robbie Williams fans here? Thank you very much, you've been
great. Good night!" Hooky keeps playing bass throughout, and
ends with a solo of the LWTUA melody, before waving and walking
(CD I have includes none of these)
Roadies come out and adjust stuff, as the fans clap and yell.
New Order don't come on for a few minutes, but of course come
back on.
BS: "My breath smells like your penis. Okay, hi, may name's
Bernard, and I'm a Capricorn. This is Rock The Shack, off our
new album."
I'm of the minority of NO fans who seems to like this tune, and
they do it justice here. Song ends with Barney tuning down
his low E string and strumming on that.
BS: {strums chord} "Thank you!". Meanwhile, Hooky pounds on
his symdrums.
BS: (continues): "Okay, okay, that was a song full of guitars,
now we're going to play for you a song full of synthesizers,
it's called Blauer Montag, or Blauer Montag, or something like
that, anyway."
Heh, they should just do the Hardfloor mix in the same fashion
that they play the Perfecto remix of True Faith. Cunningham
plays 'Crystal' style guitar...echo on the "waiting" part
of "I stand her waiting...".
BS: "Thank you, we're gonna play one very last song for you.
It's called Ruined In A Day."
The song is performed in an eerie, alluring green light.
BS: "Thank you, c'mon you've been fucking great. Thanks for being
a great audience and we'll see you sometime again in the future,
The roadies come up and start taking things down...somebody got
handed the setlist.
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:07:15
Al Jarvis reports the setlist as the following:
Setlist was presumably as follows, according to Nicholas
LeBlanc's message to Ceremony:
I just came home from the concert - Fantastic show!
Bernard dedicated the concert to Sven-Goran Eriksson (the Swedish coach
of the English national football team)
Bernard gave Peter a kiss after True Faith
They played Transmission
Bernard claimed Stockholm to be his very favorite city in Europe
Another review, this one from Calle
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:22:24
..less than 48 hours after the gig..not bad at all...
don't even know if the first posting ever made it to the list, but
here we go again..
Since I'm on the digest, I don't have a clue what has been reported from
Stockholm, but in short it can be summed in one word: brilliant!
In some more words (have you read about it before, nevermind, do it again..),
it was...
...a great, small venue as earlier reported. Only 1,800 people in the
crowd and a very intimate place for a concert.
...also great seeing the living legend - as it also said on Hookeys
speakers - Arthur Baker lurking around before the concert, looking like
a cross between a bum and santa claus, hanging with local swedish reggae
star (!) Papa Dee.
..good to hear Baker do a great DJ-set before the concert, dropping
Confusion, not-so-surprising "Walking on sunshine" and Clash "This is
radio Clash" amongst some really bass-heavy stuff.
..brilliant to see the band entering the stage about 11.15 and playing
for about 1 and a half hour.
The set started with Bernard apologizing for not playing in Sweden for
so many years (they havent been here since 1983..) and than dedicate the
whole set to Sven-Goran Eriksson (for non uk-residents or football
interested people, a former swede who now manage the English soccer team).
And, also, once again, he honoured Stockholm as Europes finest city.
The setlist was the same as the last concerts: Crystal / Transmission /
Regret / Ceremony / 60 Miles an Hour / Your Silent Face / Atmosphere /
Close Range / Touched by The Hand of God / Bizarre Love Triangle /
True Faith / Temptation / Love Will Tear Us Apart
The encore included Rock The Shack and Blue Monday. I'm not 100 procent
sure, but I think Bernard introduced Ruined in a day between the songs,
but then Blue Monday kicked in instead. A fook-up, maybe?
Backstage I'm also rather sure both Gillian and her sister hung out,
sipping wine.
Bernard was a bit stiff during the first part of the concert, excused
himself and than started the famous freaky dancing. He was completley
over the top during Blue Monday, but he must have been rather sober or
else he would have fell over. You dont do this sort of dancing normally
not ending up on the floor...
Hooky was also in great spirits, smiling and doing every trick the book
and of course insulting the guards. He was even down in the crowd posing
for some photos. What a brilliant entertainer!
Best part last: The Swedish national radio had there mobile recording
studio at Cirkus, wich means this concert will be broadcast. On the radio.
Crystal clear. I havent checked for a broadcasting date, but hopefully it
won't be too long away. Great to hear this great stuff again.
well, I think this sums it up rather good. a great evening!
(he later shared both the JW (I believe) and FM versions to DIME)
Writeup from CD. It's missing the first 4 tracks.
Arthur Baker introduces the group.
AB: "Good evening, good evening, Stockholm. My name's Arthur Baker,
and I'd like to bring on the best band in the world, my good friends
from Manchester, England, NEW ORDER!"
BS: "Hello! It's been a long time since we've been to Stockholm,
but it's a city we like very much. And, erm, I'd like to dedicate
this set to eh, our finest living Englishman at the moment, Sven-Goran
Steve hits his kit.
PH: "I don't think there's anything to make you look more like a cunt,
Alex, so there you go."
BS: "Okay, we're goint to start the set tonight with Crystal."
BS: "Jerry, can I have a little less Phil, and a bit more of my guitar,
please, maybe a little bit of guitar in the wedges."
BS: "This is Transmission."
BS: "'k you. Jerry, I think maybe we need a little more 'oomph' from the
side fills."
PH: "Very kind of you, I'd like to dedicate you this song to all of you
who came to see Revenge, cuz Sarge here has no regrets."
BS: "Okay, this is Regret."
PH: "Thank you. Bit less guitar, Jerry, bit of reverb on the voice,
BS: "Is everybody having a good time? I must apologize for the amount
of time it's taken us to get back to Stockholm, because Stockholm is one
of my...is my favorite city in the whole of Europe. Really, no, really
it is, so hopefully we won't be so long next time."
BS: "Well, we're going to play an old song now, it's called Ceremony."
Hooky is prominent on the choruses.
BS: "'k you."
PH: "Okay, can we get this fucking picture thing sorted out here, right?"
We only come once every twenty years, so if they want to take a fucking
picture, let 'em take it, OK?"
Someone cries for Age Of Consent.
BS: "Okay, the next song we're gonna play is off our wonderful new album,
Raise The Pressure [Steve hits the cymbals at Bernard's quip] and is called
'60 Miles An Hour'."
Bass riff is really off here during the synth bridge.
BS: "'ank you. Okay we're gonna, erm, [coughs] excuse my voice, it's,
erm, a bit fucked. We're gonna tone down things a little bit with Your
Silent Face."
BS: "Thank you! One two, one...two...one two one two one two.
Jerry, can you give me...transmit a little more to me, I don't seem
to be getting any reverb at all. [sigh] Hey, hey hey hey hey."
BS: "Okay, okay...does anyone like Joy Division? Well, we're gonna
play a song now which is my favorite Joy Division song. In fact,
it's probably my favorite song that we've ever written. It's called
Atmosphere. And it features Mr. Peter Hook on bass which is still(?),
PH: "Just bear with me a moment. Checking(?) him out to take that
reunion tour."
BS: "Get on with it."
PH: (off-mic) "1-2-3-4!"
(at end)
BS: "Thank you very much. A bit more reverb, eh, Jerry please."
Another cry for Age Of Consent.
BS: "All right, we're gonna hop things up a bit now, and hope you jump
around a little bit, because we've started getting a bit hot under the
collar now. This is a track off our new album called 'Close Range'."
(at end)
BS: "Just have a quick drink...[ah...]"
BS: "Okay, this is a song of ours called Touched By The Hand Of God."
BS: "'ank you. [coughs and clears throat].
Then Hooky and who knows who else on stage starts doing it! A cacophony
of throat clearing!
PH: "Fookin' hell."
Is everybody having a reasonably good time? The gap at the front of
the stage is very wide. I'm sorry about that."
BS: "Okay, anyway, this song, ah, is called Bizarre Love Triangle."
Partly way, Hooky looks to have screamed (off-mic) "Get out of there!!"
BS: "Okay, this is True Faith."
You can clearly hear Bernard's voice starting to give out.
Very interesting guitar intro.
Bernard sings the first verse, but apparently too early, so he yells out
"one, two, three, four" and starts over.
BS: "We did that, but I'm not gay, really, honestly.
PH: "Can I just say, can I just say a thank you to Coatsey, my long-suffering
roadie...for at least [glitch] I worked with [glitch] some time, aren't we,
boy? (?) [Steve hits drums]
BS: "I'll tell you what, this is the last night of our tour. We've been on
tour for seven days. That's right, seven fucking days. And we are fucking
exhasuted. I know I stopped doing it. Even our new guitarist here, Phil
Cunningham here, is exhausted. He spent so much money on watching porno
films at the hotel that we're not going to make any profit on this tour."
[Steve hits the drums - in comedy routine style]
BS: "Is that true, Phil? Shake your head if that's not true."
BS: "Okay, this is Temptation."
BS: "Thank you very much." (quite a bit of reverb)
PH: "Sounding like a bit of wind, that, Phil..."
Teaser acoustic chords, followed by the start of the song.
Hooky yells out, "Steve Morris on drums!"
During the second set choruses, Bernard yells "C'mon...yeeeah!"
followed by Hooky saying, "Here we go."
BS: "I think that's the end. Thank you very much. We're all a bit
fucked up here, not fucked up, just fucked, but thanks for bearing with
us, you've been a great audience, [Swedish that sounds like: 'a little
stucco, a little swen'], and erm, that's the end of our tour. Good night!"
Neat ascending sound effect, than the Swedish announcement says
something to the effect of "That was New Order, live." The announcer
isn't present on the webcast that was used to source the CD, though.
Cheering and stamping, and a cool sound effect later, the Order come
back on.
BS: "Hello, everybody. Did you enjoy those wafery biscuit at the
front? Okay, we never...Does Hooky sound a bit too loud? He sounds..."
BS: "This is the last show, and this is the last two songs of our..."
Hooky chimes in.
PH: "European tour".
BS: "One week tour, and this is Rock The Shack off our new album."
BS: "C'mon!"
Ends in a bit of wah-wah and feedback.
BS: "'k you."
BS: "For those of you who don't like guitars, I apologize. And by way of
an apology, we'd like to play Blue Monday for you."
Lots of collossal guitar in this one, probably courtesy of Mr. Cunningham.
NO: 28 JUL 01 Fuji Rock Festival - Japan
Love Vigilantes
KW1 (Your Silent Face)
Slow Jam
Turn My Way
Bizarre Love Triangle
Close Range
Touched (Touched By The Hand Of God)
True Faith ('98)
Love Will Tear Us Apart
60 Miles Per Hour
Blue Monday
NO: 31 JUL 01 Shoreline Amphitheatre - Mountain View, CA Area One
Subject: (Fac33) Mountain View Show
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: (Fac33) shorelines
> << The source you have has Bernard more shifted over to the right than
> Mike's. They're both comparibly clear, I would guess the neworderonline
> version was recorded a bit further away, it has a bit more audience clatter
> in it. >>
> I think this is Jason's version - he is a SP fan so that's why he
> went/taped/etc. He bought his ticket from a Schoeps taper who decided to
> take a holiday from taping. So I had a better seat/row, but I was on Hooky's
> side, whereas I think Jason was on Corgan's side, so he was having his own
> little field day. Jason uses (I think) Sonic Studios and a D7, but I can't
> really remember that well. Schoeps mics have a $4500 retail or so, but alas
> I don't think there is a Schoeps for this gig (Schoeps mics at Shoreline can
> sometimes sound utterly amazing, almost as good as Schoeps mics taped from
> the spot at the Warfield - eg, Underworld '99 and Kraftwerk '98).
> x
> mike
> From: Super User
> To: GaoBest
> Subject: Re: (Fac33) shorelines
> Jason Roth? Nah, I think he uses DPA4061s omni's into
> an M1.
> From: GaoBest
> To: Alastair J. Murray, firstname.lastname@example.com
> Subject: Re: (Fac33) Glasgow/Last Orders...
> In a message dated 10/9/01 3:09:27 PM, Ally wrote:
> << PS. For anyone who'll ever met up with New Order's personal bodyguard
> "Sarge": be afraid, be VERY afraid ... (no joke!) >>
> Is that the "older"-looking guy with tattoos who hangs around with
> Hooky? At the Shoreline show he was glued to Hooky whenever PH went
> off the stage during the performance... tough looking guy! Um, so is
> that him???
Subject: Re: (Fac33) New Order in this month's Q Magazine...
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:05:33
(last part he chuckles through)
NO: 02 AUG 01 Thunderbird Stadium - Vancouver, BC
NO: 03 AUG 01 Gorge Amphitheater - Gorge (Seattle), WA Area One
From: "Jeff Sheldon"
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic]
Jeff Sheldon
From: "Jeff Sheldon"
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic] Review
90 degree sun, tightly packed crowd and the fact that I had been walking
around for five hours at ths point had all led to fatigue. Here is a list of
the rest of the songs (if anyone has a better recollection of the set please
let me know):
Love Will Tear Us Apart
True Faith
Your Silent Face
Bizarre Love Triangle
Touched by the Hand of God
Turn My Way
60 mph
Blue Monday
Jeff Sheldon
so why don't you piss off."
- -New Order
From: rdawson
Subject: (Fac33) Seattle NO show
Subject: (Fac33) Gorge!
From: al.jarvis
Subject: (Fac33) Area One, thus far.
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Gorge Ampitheatre [sic] Review
> loves America. Then he said, "Here's a song we haven't played
> in 24 hours."
> hills. I'm pretty sure NO had something to do with it.
> also made the point of explaining to the crowd that Crystal
> was their newest
> single and they need to go buy it "right now".
NO: 05 AUG 01 Glen Helen Blockbuster Pavilion - Devore (Los Angeles) CA
From: "Albert"
Subject: (Fac33) Los Angeles show.
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Your Silent Face
True Faith
Turn My Way
Bizarre Love Triangle
Touched by the Hand of God
60 mph
Blue Monday
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Los Angeles show.
From: John Frye
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Your Silent Face
Turn My Way
Bizzare Love Triangle
Touched By The Hand Of God
True Faith
60 Mph
Blue Monday
From: "Albert"
Subject: RE: (Fac33) [Fwd: Area One report: Devore (Los Angeles)]
From: "Dgital Girl"
I just returned from work where I got 4 hours of sleep last night and
went to work at 6am. I wasn't going to post until later on today because
I am so damn TIRED but after Albert mentioned my New Order experience
(or should I say Hooky experience?) I thought I should post now.
From: "Albert"
Subject: RE: (Fac33) My Review Of Area One In LA
From: al.jarvis
Subject: (Fac33) Cologne Mungersdorfer stadium
From: Dreams.Never.End/
Subject: (Fac33) Cologne Gig
NO: 24 SEP 01 At New Order's Rehearsal Studio
NO: 04 OCT 01 Apollo Theatre - Manchester, England
To: email@example.com
Subject: (Fac33)
This was sent wirefree using Orange Mail (www.orange.net)
band notoriously hostile to playing live. The band opened with recent
single 'Crystal', and while the show was heavy with material from
current album 'Get Ready', all three decades of their career were covered,
with hits like 'Bizarre Love Triangle', 'True Faith' and 'Blue Monday'.
The set also included three Joy Division songs - 'Transmission', 'Love Will
Tear Us Apart' and 'Atmosphere'.
Subject: (Fac33) Manchester Evening News Review
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:14:14
> From: "robert dawson"
> To:
> Subject: RE: (Fac33)
> Okay, so I went to the website and saw news items under the headings of
> various NO/JD songs. Is that it? Was there some multimedia thing I
> didn't catch? Otherwise what is the point of sending these song titles
> (some 10 of them now) to the list?
> Am I just missing something sitting here with no sound card?
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 14:02:00
> From: "phi"
> To: firstname.lastname@example.com
> Subject: RE: (Fac33)
> He's actually AT the concert. We're getting a blow by blow account
> of what new order is playing right at this moment.
> phi
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:10:08
> From:
> To: "Ceremony"
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
> So the whole setlist was...
> Crystal
> Transmission
> Regret
> Ceremony
> 60mph
> Your Silent Face
> Slow Jam
> Close Range
> Touched By The Hand Of God
> Bizarre Love Triangle
> True Faith
> Temptation
> Love Will Tear Us Apart
> Atmosphere
> Ruined In A Day
> Rock The Shack
> Blue Monday
> Wow!!!! Roll on London. Still happy I saw Love Vigilantes & Turn My Way
> in Liverpool, but Ceremony and Transmission being added is a rocking bonus.
> Still wish they'd stop ending on Blue Monday, I know they hate it, I
> don't love it much either, its always a simmering out ending with that in
> mind. Temptation or True Faith would be much better last - or Love Will
> Tear...
> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:41:57 +0200
> From: "Have An (tilde) For Dinner"
> To: email@example.com
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
> >Bizarre Love Triangle
> Bloody hell. Does anyone think this should be banned
> from their setlist ? The version they actually play
> is really really boring, and lacks energy. I miss those
> recordings of live versions they played in the 80's where
> Bernard played guitar on that. BLT live 2k is really
> boring ! argh !
> >Rock The Shack
> Boo.
> >Blue Monday
> Can't they just stop using the original version, and
> press play. I was disappointed hearing that during the
> US tour. Not that I don't give a shit about Blue Monday,
> not at all, but the original version, on tape... Boo.
> The setlist didn't differ much from the previous & recent
> ones. I guess we'll get about the same stuff at each concert.
> I mean, where is Perfect Kiss ? Any chance hearing a new
> version of Round & Round ? How about Nineteen63 ? Any
> surprise, apart from Transmission ? No new songs ? No
> Sabotage or Player In The League ? These are good really...
> Decades anyone ? Mind you, they removed Paradise, which was
> a disaster at Reading... The rest of the Reading set was
> wonderful.
> Not much variation, really. :(
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:51:13
> From: "John Gardner"
> To: Have An (tilde) For Dinner
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
> Listen up ya wee monkey, BLT was greeted with rapturous adulation as it
> should be. Fuckin brill song.
> As for Blue Monday...well 'classic influential track' but my least
> favourite NO song. Temptation has and always will be the best one to
> end a gig with. New York 1981.
> Stockport Bear
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:52:21
> From: "John Gardner"
> To:
> Subject: Re: (Fac33)
> > :Rock the Shack
> >
> > Queue for the bar just increased tenfold...
> > --
> > Chris Sampson
> Nope that happened during Slow Jam and Close Range! :-)
> Fantastic evening, even as an old bastard (aged 38) I was thankfully
> surrounded by similar at the rear of the Apollo. Memories came flooding
> back, and I can assure you when Transmission and Atmosphere were played
> I was not the only one with a tear in my eye, truly magical performance,
> even my bint was overwhelmed. Thankfully I'll be in attendance again this
> evening!!
> '..I've done it before and I'll do it again...' Primitive Notion
> So appropriate. :-)
> Stockport Bear
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:41:16
> From: "Hibell, David (CAP, EEF)"
> To: firstname.lastname@example.com
> Subject: (Fac33) - rock the shack
> anybody else there think that barney got pissed off about the reception
> to that track?
> he did leave the stage a tad early during bm, leaving gillian on
> keyboards & steve to go it alone before kim & gillian had a little dance
> afterwards....
NO: 05 OCT 01 The Apollo Manchester
NO: 07 OCT 01 Barrowland Glasgow Scotland
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
(cancelled after 30 seconds when Bernard said "It's too fucking hard")
Blue Monday Encore
From: "colin kerr"
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Glasgow Show this evening
they dropped rock the Shack after 30 seconds and no Ruined.
Totally blinding best ever I've heard version of Bizarre Love
Triangle and the band were totally up for it tonight. Woops
and hollars galore. Barney and Hooky having a right old spar
between songs, Barney laughing and Steve laughing and singing
along as well.
From: "Jonathan Scott"
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow/Last Orders...
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs (more); plus setlist corrections
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
From: GaoBest
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) glasgow 10-7-01
i'm starting to listen to this gig, my goodness they played
"transmission" and it sounds fucking great! I'm so floored.
I got this show on Monday and I'm finally having time to listen
to it.
NO: 08 OCT 01 Barrowlands Glasgow Scotland
swapped Transmission and Love Will Tear Us Apart.
Love Will Tear Us Apart
- Bernard: "Can you guess what we're gonna play next?"
- Audience: "Transmission" ha!
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
To: email@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:40:58
Subject: (Fac33) Monday Glasgow gig
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 09:02:14
From: Deron Pease
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) Glasgow Gigs (more); plus setlist corrections
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:11:45
O: 10 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
Subject: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:23:02
Subject: RE: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:00:27
Cc: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: Re: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:08:42 +0100
Subject: Re: (Fac33) setlist 10/10/01
ate: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:14:08
To: "New Order Mailing List (E-mail)"
Subject: (Fac33) Brixton
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:20:20 +0100
Cc: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Brixton last night
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:15:24
Subject: Re: (Fac33) what time.
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:28:45
> Hello,
> Can anyone tell me what time they came on stage
> and finished last night ? With the tube strike tonight
> I am trying to find the best way back ......
> Glenn.
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: Re: (Fac33) what time. (and setlist 10/10)
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:34:27
NO: 11 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
To: "New Order Mailing List (E-mail)"
Subject: (Fac33) Brixton PT2
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:56:55
Subject: (Fac33) Hookys Cryptic Amps
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:59:30
NO: 12 OCT 01 Brixton Academy
(same as 11 OCT)
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched by the Hand of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Blue Monday
To: "ML New Order"
Subject: (Fac33) Brixton 12/10 - what a set!
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 10:32:58 +0100
Thieves Like Us!
Age of Consent!
Dreams Never End!
To: Ceremony Mailing List
Subject: (Fac33) brixton 13/10/01
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 00:05:13
Subject: (Fac33) Bricks and Tonnes (a story of personal gig trauma!)
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:00:07
NO: 19 OCT 01 Later With Jools Holland
To: "Ceremony"
Subject: (Fac33) New Order on Later . .
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:42:05
NO: 11 NOV 01 Olympia - Paris, France
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Ruined In A Day
Blue Monday
From: "N21"
Subject: (Fac33) Paris gig
Playlist is exactly the same as the UK shows.
I am completely exhausted, back home after a 2hr drive in the fecking
Tomorrow is me getting back to Paris AGAIN for the second show, but I'll
make sure to review the gig just before leaving.
It was the "press-play" version, of course :o(
Dodo !
> I hope either N21 or anybody else proficient in French can translate
> what he's saying, assuming it's even understandable. The Barney of
> time period was hard enough to understand in his native tongue. ;-)
To: email@example.com
Subject: (Fac33) Paris gig
NO: 12 NOV 01 Olympia - Paris, France
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Ruined In A Day
Blue Monday
From: "N21"
Subject: (Fac33) Paris Gig, Nov 12th
I didn't find Hooky very pleased really. He was grimacing at people
all the time. When he did so to me, I did the same.
From: "N21"
Subject: Re: (Fac33) RAM gig this Saturday (1st Dec) + other stuff ...
> The band ignored him. At least it's not as bad as N21's "Vivid!" request
> at the Paris gigs :D
NO: 15 NOV 01 Columbiahalle - Berlin, Germany
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Blue Monday
By Dale Johnson
(not sure if this is in fact Phil getting picked on again)
NO: 16 NOV 01 Palladium - Cologne, Germany
100 minutes!
NO: 18 NOV 01 Cirkus - Stockholm, Sweden
From: "Erik Myrhage"
Subject: (Fac33) Stockholm
60 Miles An Hour
Your Silent Face
Close Range
Touched By The Hand Of God
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
Love Will Tear Us Apart
Rock The Shack
Blue Monday
From: Calle
To: ceremony
Subject: (Fac33) new order in stockholm