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How should we address government's trampling of religious freedom? When dealing with the snakes of social engineering and destruction, being wise as serpents is a good idea.
Here's a brief glimpse at the leading perpetrators of carnage currently spreading murder and mayhem wherever they are able.
A recent Convention of the States (COS) release entitled "John Birch Society Denies Its History and Betrays Its Mission" accuses the Society of reversing the stands taken by JBS Founder Robert Welch and former Chairman Larry McDonald relative to The Liberty Amendment. It also claims that current John Birch Society President John McManus (this writer) has misrepresented Founder Robert Welch and former Congressman Larry McDonald. This is completely erroneous and irresponsible.
Reality May Be Optional
Written by Walter E. WilliamsOne of the wonders of modern times is that reality is often seen as a social construct and therefore optional. Thus, if one finds a particular reality offensive or inconvenient, he just "changes" it.
It's now official. Hillary Clinton released a video on Sunday announcing, to the surprise of absolutely no one, that yes, by golly, she is running for president. "Everyday Americans need a champion, and I want to be that champion," she said in the two-and-a-half minute promotion.


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September 27, 2012, 05:32 PM | #1 |
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CWP carrying in Starbucks with a smirk....lol
Not sure how it is in your neck of the woods, but where I live most of the employes and patrons of Starbucks lean a little to the left and if I had to bet despise guns. I can't help but get this goofy grin on my face every time I walk in one and I have my 45ACP in my pocket legally and knowing I would be willing to defend anyone in there if a thug were to try and harm them.
Does anyone else with a CWP or live in a state with OC get that little grin in Starbucks.....lol
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September 27, 2012, 05:43 PM | #2 |
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Not to sound all grumpy, but...
While there will always be exceptions but my rule is I only defend myself, family and close friends. That said there is one mean ass old lady at the nearest starbucks here... She's far more lethal then I.
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September 27, 2012, 06:41 PM | #4 |
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Well, I lean to the left as well.
Probably best left or put in another section but my thoughts are I think "smirk" is inappropriate comment if you are a responsible adult carrying a gun. You might want to consider that many of those of us that tend to "lean to the left" do so because we think that the system should not be rigged by those with the money to buy politicos so they can setup the game so they get all the wealthier and we are slated to become their peasants. When all is said and done, the ones you will need to defend yourself from are the ones on the right wing who either have all the money or want to impost their religious values on you (funny about how corporations have become "cistizines" but our Non activist Right Wing supreme court managed to pull that piece of BS out of thin air and the protection we are also actually is found in and guaranteed (freedom from religions) is being foisted on us more and more. Most of those with money have disdain for those of us who work our asses off. Something to consider, our guns were never taken away, the discourse has always ebbed and flowed but the wealth of the country is streaming to the top and is now consolidated in the hands of fewer and fewer no matter how hard we work. I can think of another country that has occurred in. Its called Pakistan. Something to think about. |
September 27, 2012, 06:49 PM | #5 | |
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*shrugs* Starbucks is just another place.
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September 27, 2012, 07:45 PM | #7 | ||||
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I don't even no where to begin with the rest of your rant, but I will add just a few things. Quote:
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September 27, 2012, 07:50 PM | #8 |
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Enough with the politics!! Why cant a guy get a good cup of coffee without being stereotyped?
September 27, 2012, 09:08 PM | #9 |
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I wouldn't be caught dead in a Starbucks after they refused to sell coffee to be sent to our military overseas.
September 27, 2012, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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RC20, you are right - this isn't the place for that type of crap.
September 27, 2012, 09:17 PM | #11 |
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I'm a new guy around here so I wont step on toes but I strongly dislike your thought process Palmetto....that sort of thinking lends itself to opening the gates of LOOKING for an excuse to draw your firearm.
I am a fairly liberal dem (union guy)....and a rarity in these parts and I understand that. I also dread the thought of ever having to draw my pistol in a defense situation. I really do, despite firing pistols for over 6 years. My personal take is that once you begin thinking you are the sheriff in town...bad things can happen. I agree with the folks who said they keep to themselves and the sole purpose is to protect themselves, their friends and family. Your post has a very John McClain'ish tone to it and I strongly disagree with that thought process. Now that being said, if you HAPPENED to be a patron in a coffee shop and sh*t went down in front of you that put you in immediate danger or you saw a situation escalate where you truly thought it would save a life....then pull that 45 out and lay down some law. Most times, a simple robbery doesnt aim for violence....they want cash and to get out quick. Insurance covers most situations like that. Remember, the "hero" factor might get you killed some day (if you fumbled & dropped your pistol etc) |
September 27, 2012, 09:23 PM | #12 |
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Someone has been watching MSNBC too much!!!
September 27, 2012, 09:24 PM | #13 |
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Officer's Match, that rumor was debunked long ago. It is false. Please verify this stuff before spreading. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/starbucks.asp
Palmetto-Pride, Starbuck's as a corporation has resisted a lot of pressure in places like Seattle, sticking with a policy of "go by state and local law." They have not incorporated bans. Perhaps you should dog IKEA and other chains that impose their own bans. RC20, Hitler was right wing. Stalin was left. Neither side has exclusive claims on vice nor virtue. |
September 27, 2012, 09:35 PM | #14 |
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I used to think like you but not any more. If you do have to pull and shoot your gun you are either going to get arrested or sued by the person you wounded or the family of the person you killed. Now if I can get my family and myself out without drawing my gun the bad guy can kill anybody he wants. As Clint Eastwood said in Pale Rider "He should have armed himself". Its not my responsibility to protect them.
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September 27, 2012, 09:36 PM | #15 |
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I agree with the post that specifically mentioned "stereotype". However, thx for the thread and I wouldn't know more than that because when I quit tobacco in 2001 I decided to make a ton of cash overtime rather than spend it daily on a soda here, coffee there, etc. One must choose what he wants to 'pay the price' for...there is no wrong answer...i just waste my cash on other stuff that's all
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September 27, 2012, 09:47 PM | #16 | |||
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StainlessSteel215 you couldn't be wrong on how I feel about what it means to be a CWP holder and carrier.......but I guess that's my fault for starting this post which I do regret because the computer screen just cant convey ones true tone and feelings.....for that I am regretful. Quote:
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September 27, 2012, 09:53 PM | #17 |
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Rumor mongering, members attacking each other, and left/right politics.
I think we're done here.
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