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Compadres (Speakers Corner)
Jazz Impressions Of The USA
Time Further Out
Countdown: Time In Outer Space
Dave Brubeck In Europe
Jazz Goes To Junior College
Kicks - Jazz Dance 4
Jazz At The College Of The Pacific
Brubeck Time
We're All Together Again For The First Time
Real Ambassadors
Jazz Goes To College
Vinyl LP - Sealed
180 Gram Audiophile Virgin Vinyl LP - Sealed
To this day, the typical sound colouring of the Dave Brubeck Quartet is quite distinctive and unmistakable thanks to Paul Desmonds tenor saxophone. But Gerry Mulligans low-pitched horn and his restrained swing also offers enough appeal to make one want to listen to these somewhat less popular but for all that very worthwhile recording by the Quartet.
The Quartets concert tour of Mexicos major cities in 1968 was a great success and so Dave Brubecks recording company had no qualms in making live recordings of the group complemented by bassist Jack Six and drummer Alan Dawson. Themes from indigenous folk music were skilfully coupled with new compositions with the result that the LP Compadres with its concert excerpts was in great demand and became a top hit. This carefully remastered new pressing will certainly contribute to the popularity of Dave Brubeck and Gerry Mulligan long after their demise.
Recording: 1968 live in Mexico by John Guerriere and Russ Payne Production: Teo Macero
About Speakers Corner
At the beginning of the 90s, in the early days of audiophile vinyl re-releases, the situation was fairly straightforward. Companies such as DCC, Mobile Fidelity, Classic Records and, of course, Speakers Corner all maintained a mutual, unwritten ethical code: we would only use analogue tapes to manufacture records.
During the course of the present vinyl hype, many others have jumped on the bandwagon in the hope of securing a corner of the market. Very often they are not so ethical and use every imaginable source to master from: CDs, LPs, digital files, MP3s or employed existant tools from the 80s and 90s for manufacturing.
A digital delay is gladly used when cutting a lacquer disc because tape machines with an analogue delay have become quite rare and are therefore expensive. When cutting the lacquer, the audio signal is delayed by one LP revolution against the signal, which controls the cutter head, and for this a digital delay is very often employed. Of course, the resultant sound signal is completely digital and thus only as good as this delay.
We should like to emphasise that Speakers Corner Records on principle only uses the original master tape as the basis for the entirely analogue cutting of lacquer discs. In addition, the pressing tool is newly manufactured as a matter of principle. We have one digital recording in our catalogue (Alan Parsons / Eye In The Sky), but even in this particular case we used the analogue tapes for cutting.
We only employ existing tools for manufacturing if an improved result is not forthcoming, e.g. the title Elvis Is Back, which was mastered by Steve Hoffman and Kevin Gray, or several titles from our Philips Classics series, which in any case Willem Makkee cut from the original masters at the Emil Berliner Studios in the 90s. It goes without saying that we only used the mother and that new tools were made for our production.
To put it in a nutshell: we can ensure you that our releases are free from any kind of digital effects excluding the exception above and that the lacquer discs are newly cut.
Vinyl LP Reissue - Sealed
This timeless jazz recording has now been newly reissued on VINYL. Track Listing: 1. All The Things You Are 2. Laura 3. Lullaby In Rhythm 4. Ill Never Smile Again 5. I Remember You 6. For All We Know
Embracing the All In One Rhythm Theme of the 2014 FIFA World Cup, Studio Rio Presents: The Brazil Connection blends 12 iconic performances--from Bill Withers, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Billie Holiday, Sly & The Family Stone, The Isley Brothers, Mel Tormé, Nina Simone, Johnny Nash, Dave Brubeck with Carmen McRae, Andy Williams and Sarah Vaughan--with new, samba and bossa nova arrangements and production inspired by the spirit of Brazilian music.
Working on Studio Rio Presents: The Brazil Connection project, the Berman Brothers sought out the original multi-track masters and utilized an all-new, state-of-the-art separation technology from Science of Sounds to extract exquisitely pristine and detailed vocals. The newly isolated vocals were then melded with brand-new, authentic backing arrangements played by Studio Rio, an all-star cast of Brazilian musical pioneers from the bossa nova and samba genres, including Latin Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award winner Roberto Menescal and Brazilian musical legend Marcos Valle.
Studio Rio Presents: The Brazil Connection is the latest innovative musical project from the Berman Brothers (Frank and Christian), a production team whose previous work includes Rhythms Del Mundo (2006), a cross-cultural album summit which which fused an all-star cast of Cuban musicians including Ibrahim Ferrer and Omara Portuondo of the Buena Vista Social Club with US and UK artists and superstars such as U2, Coldplay, Sting, Jack Johnson, Maroon5, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs and others. Rhythms del Mundo was released in more than 61 countries and received multiple sales awards worldwide.
During the past 20 years, the Berman Brothers have received more than 90 gold and platinum awards, two BMI Awards, a Golden Globe nomination, a Grammy nomination (for "Love One Another," recorded by Cher) and a place in history for their production and remix of the Baha Men's colossal hit, "Who Let the Dogs Out." As producers, writers and publishers, the Bermans have worked with an array of international superstars including Coldplay, Sting, Cher, Real McCoy, Dido, Maroon5, Sophie B Hawkins, Reamonn and members of the legendary Buena Vista Social Club.
"Music is the heart and soul of Brazil, celebrating with syncopated beats and beautifully expressive melodies. Its the life force of the entire culture," wrote the Berman Brothers in their notes for Studio Rio Presents: The Brazil Connection. "We have always had a huge appreciation of Brazilian music. Between us, we have a massive collection of bossa nova and samba recordings, new and old, a lot which we found in flea markets in Amsterdam, Paris, and London.... Once you get into this music, there really is no way to stop. It was this joyful and timeless music that inspired the idea for this collection. Our goal was to bring the Brazilian joie de vivre to iconic performances by well-known American artists like Billie Holiday, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, The Isley Brothers, and many others. What would these classic songs sound like had they been recorded in the studios of Rio De Janeiro in the first place, with the best Brazilian musicians and arrangers?
It was an amazing journeybringing together these American classics and the vibrancy of Brazilian music with the help of so many talented musicians, arrangers and a dedicated production team. We learned many things putting together this music including what was the most important, and least surprising lesson of all: Brazil is the most musical place we have ever been in our lives." Track Listing: 1. Lovely Day (Studio Rio Version) - Bill Withers with Studio Rio 2. Walk on By (Studio Rio Version) - Aretha Franklin with Studio Rio 3. Sexual Healing (Studio Rio Version) - Marvin Gaye with Studio Rio 4. You've Changed (Rio Music Collective Version) - Billie Holiday with Studio Rio 5. Family Affair (Rio Music Collective Version) - Sly & The Family Stone with Studio Rio 6. It's Your Thing (Rio Music Collective Version) - The Isley Brothers with Studio Rio 7. I've Got You Under My Skin (Studio Rio Version) - Mel Tormé witb Studio Rio 8. I Can See Clearly Now (Studio Rio Version) - Johnny Nash with Studio Rio 9. Take Five (Studio Rio Version) - Dave Brubeck & Carmen McRae with Studio Rio 10. Music to Watch Girls By (Studio Rio Version) - Andy Williams with Studio Rio 11. Summertime (Studio Rio Version) - Sarah Vaughan with Studio Rio
Vinyl LP - 2 LPs Sealed
LP2 1. Arthur Blythe Down Santiago Way 2. Oscar Brown Jnr* Signifyin' Monkey 3. Mel Tormé Comin' Home Baby 4. Herbie Mann Watermelon Man 5. Dave Pike Why Not 6. Gerry Mulligan Get Out Of Town 7. Dave Brubeck Take Five 8. Mongo Santamaria La Bamba
180 Gram Audiophile Virgin Vinyl LP - 2 LPs Sealed
Although the twelve titles had already been released on LPs that had been recorded in the studio, these records were certainly not known to all those in the audience. In between the numbers on each LP, Brubeck made little 'advertising spots' in short comments, but with such charm and wit that one really cannot be angry with him.
The concert programme begins with "St. Louis Blues" and ends with "Take Five". Luckily, the solos are distributed among all the musicians, so that Paul Desmond and Joe Morello whose prowess on this evening can only be called 'amazingly good' justifiably received enthusiastic applause from both the audience and us alike. "Castilian Drums" demonstrates Morellos wealth of ideas and his grandiose feeling for rhythm; though short, Paul Desmonds solos ("Southern Scene" is a good example!) are compelling, highly melodic, lyrical and possess a unique tone as such they are immediately recognisable.
How fortunate that the twelve brilliantly improvised numbers are now available once again on vinyl, having been recorded live at the legendary Carnegie Hall 60 years ago.
Recording: February 1963 Carnegie Hall, New York Production: Teo Macero
This comprehensive 18-track, 2LP set from Vinyl Passion collects all of the jazz great's most revered material and interpretations including his jazz standards "In Your Own Sweet Way" and "The Duke" as well as a handful of iconic tracks from his 1959 masterpiece Time Out in "Take Five," "Blue Rondo A La Turk," "Three To Get Ready" and "Kathy's Waltz" among many more! Track Listing: LP1 1. Body And Soul 2. Out of Nowhere 3. The Song Is You 4. Don't Worry 'Bout Me 5. Jeeper's Creepers 6. A Fine Romance 7. Stompin' For Mili 8. The Duke 9. In Your Own Sweet Way
LP2 1. Summer Song 2. When You Wish Upon a Star 3. Kathy's Waltz 4. Three To Get Ready 5. Take Five 6. Blue Rondo A La Turk 7. Somewhere 8. It's A Raggy Waltz 9. Unsquare Dance
*Bonus Track
Dave Brubeck, championed when unknown yet scorned when he gained success with bandmember Paul Desmond's 'Take Five', is one of the most experimental jazz pianists in the history of the genre.
His love for poly-rhythms & poly-tonality comes out in this 1962 masterpiece.
Along with the help of Paul Desmond, Joe Morello and Eugene Wright, Countdown: Time in Outer Space is considered as one of Brubeck's most adventurous albums.
Music On Vinyl is now re-issuing Countdown for the first time since its original release!
1. Castilian Drums 2. Fast Life 3. Waltz Limp v 4. Three's A Crowd 5. Danse Duet 6. Back To Earth 7. Fatha
Brubeck's classic quartet, with Paul Desmond (Alto sax), Gene Wright (bass), Joe Morello (drums), recorded live in Copenhagen during their 1958 goodwill tour of Europe sponsored by the US State Department. Track Listing: 1. Wonderful Copenhagen 2. My One Bad Habit Is Falling In Love 3. Tangerine 4. The Wright Groove 5. Like Someone In Love 6. Watusi Drums
Includes Bonus Track Track Listing: 1. Ode to a Cowboy 2. Summer Song 3. Yonder for Two 4. History of a Boy Scout 5. Plain Song 6. Curtain Time 7. Sounds of the Loop 8. Home at Last 9. Two Sleepy People*
Vinyl LP - 3 LPs Sealed
The ambassadors are coming!
For a few hours on this Friday evening Hanover became the centre of the German Jazz scene. For the first time ever a musician came to Europe whose rise to fame at home in the USA up to then and afterwards had been fairly vertical: Dave Brubeck, born on the 6th of December 1920 in the Californian beach town of Concord. The American foreign ministry had sent him on a world tour (just as they had sent Louis Armstrong) as a Jazz ambassador: Brubecks quartet travels to India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka, Iran, Iraq and Turkey. The European itinerary includes Poland and Germany, specifically on this 28th of February of the year 1958 a stop in Hanover. NDR sends a broadcasting van to cover this state visit. The venue is Niedersachsenhalle in the regional capital of Lower Saxony where, in the subsequent years, 1959 and 1960, Jazz at the Philharmonic was also staged, even though this hall was the somewhat less successful little brother of the more prestigious Stadthalle with its domed hall next door. This was reserved for the so-called classical concerts; and Jazz (lets not forget this) at the end of the 1950s was still regarded by many as inferior music in every respect, particularly in a Germany which had just emerged from the Nazi era.
At home in the USA at this time Dave Brubeck has to cope with very different types of resistance. He is fighting with concert organisers and TV stations on behalf of the bassist who has just joined the quartet. Eugene Wright is his name and he has Afro-American roots. Black musicians, however, are not acceptable to American TV. On the anniversary of Dave Brubecks death, the day before his 92nd birthday, i.e. on the 5th of December 2012, this Eugene Wright, born in 1923 and 90 years old in May 2013, is the last surviving member of the classical Brubeck quartet that appeared on the 28th of February 1958 in Hanover for the ambassador concert. On this evening he and Brubeck are joined by the drummer Joe Morello, born in 1928, died in March 2011, and Paul Desmond on the alto saxophone. Desmond, born Paul Emil Breitenfeld in 1924 in San Francisco, had been part of Brubecks first band foundation in 1947, an octet, and was the decisive partner for the pianist for nearly twenty years. Desmond died in 1977, at the age of only 53, and left his partner Brubeck the most enduring hit of their collaboration, probably the most famous Jazz composition of all time: Take Five.
Brubeck fans will notice that the piece in five-four rhythm is not included in the Hanover recordings. There is a simple reason for this Desmond, the composer, may well already have been carrying it around in his creative mind on the ambassador tour, but it was only actually recorded a year later for Time Out, the Brubeck album which was released in 1959 and which definitively established him and the quartet as masters of Jazz. At the Hanover concert Brubeck talks a lot (always a little shy and hoarse) in particular about the rhythmic ambitions of the band for example about how he and the band can lay 3/4 and 4/4 beats under the melodies at the same time; how independently and actually ahead of its time the music of Brubecks quartet is basically playing with the different metres and structures. Who knows to what extent his audience in the Niedersachsenhalle even understood these explanations at times their amazement gave way to agreeable laughter.
It is obvious, however, how accustomed the band leader was to giving explanations of this kind he himself had been classically trained, had got to know the Viennese exile Arnold Schönberg as a teacher in lectures, but never came to agree with him. From Darius Milhaud, on the other hand, he received an enormous amount of compositional inspiration and energy which was soon realised in semi-classical works. In the year after the performance in Hanover, for example, Brubeck gave a concert for Jazz band and symphony orchestra that his brother Howard had composed. And in the highly successful 1960s Brubeck found a proximity to teaching and learning, so to speak to Jazz lessons, for the quartet the series of college concerts is impressive and legendary.
Back to the Hanover college While Brubeck challenged the producers for the program of the Time Out LP a year later with a lot of his own compositions, at the end of February 1958 he only included two of his own works among a lot of Jazz material from the American Songbook, without resorting populistically to the eternal hits and evergreens of the time. Recognising Gone With The Wind at the start of the concert shows just how knowledgeable the audience is. The Brubeck original One Moment Worth Years is followed by Someday My Prince Will Come, a hit from the popular Snow White film by Walt Disney (whom Brubeck greatly admired, as evidenced by the LP program Dave digs Disney), but above all the pianist can celebrate the mix of rhythms here which dominates the rest of the evening. Then the bassist Eugene Wright takes centre stage: some standards follow: For All We Know and Ellingtons Take the A-Train, received with enthusiastic applause and introduced by Brubecks own Ellington homage The Duke; then Out Of Nowhere. We can still be astounded by the clarity of the recording, making the dialogue between Desmond and Brubeck sound as if it was recorded today; and although countless technical advances have been made to improve the quality in the more than half a century since these recording an outstanding live recording from then, overseen by the radio technicians from NDR, can still distinguish itself with flying colours.
Two-part Contention at the start of the second CD has a quite cryptic title, which probably nobody in the audience understood (a play on the words convention and contention). Its rhythmic alternating structure, however, is enormously productive. With Im in a Dancing Mood the quartet actually takes to the dance floor for a few minutes and Joe Morello quickly introduces Latin rhythms as a foretaste of the drum solo to come. First, however, Brubeck plays a genuine classic with These Foolish Things then Morello gets started: a crash course for would-be percussionists. Then comes the finale with St. Louis Blues; a few years later Take Five would have been played at the latest here as an encore.
In the whole treasure trove of recordings from six decades of Jazz at NDR, this one stands out in particular, because it is one of the first in the series of concerts recorded outside of the broadcasting station. The Jazz at the Philharmonic galas had already been recorded in Hamburg in the Ernst Merck Hall on the grounds of the present-day Hamburg trade fair. And in the broadcasting station itself, more precisely in Studio 10 (the present-day Rolf Liebermann Studio), NDRs first archived Jazz recording was made in 1953: with Dizzy Gillespies quintet and Hans Kollers band with Jutta Hipp and Albert Mangelsdorff (released within the framework of this series as No. 01)). This is where the series of NDR Jazz workshops also began. But with increasing regularity the transmission vans were making their way to other Jazz venues. In 1958 for the first time the itinerary included Hanover and Brubeck. From the start of the 1970s the Jazz department (and the NDR big band) turned demonstratively to the external effect, and NDR microphones documented live concerts by a wide range of Jazz formations in the club scene of the Fabrik in Hamburg-Altona, in the Eppendorf pub Onkel Pös Carnegie Hall and at the various venues for Hamburg Jazz festivals.
But it all began with Dave Brubecks quartet on the ambassador tour on the 28th of February 1958 in Hanover. Track Listing: LP1 1. Gone With The Wind 2. One Moment Worth Years 3. Someday My Prince Will Come 4. The Wright Groove 5. For All We Know 6. The Duke
LP2 1. Take The A Train 2. Out of Nowhere 3. Two Part Contention 4. I'm In A Dancing Mood
LP3 1. These Foolish Things 2. Drums Along The Thames (Watusi Drums) 3. St. Louis Blues
1. In The Lurch 2. One Moment Worth Years 3. They Say I Look Like God 4. Since Love Had Its Way 5. Swing Bells 6. Blow Satchmo 7. Finale
Heavyweight direct metal mastered 180 gram vinyl LP pressing. Wax Time. Track Listing: 1. Oh Susanna 2. When It Is Sleepy Time Down South 3. Little Rock Get Away 4. (I Dream Of) Jeannie With The Light Brown Hair 5. Deep In The Heart Of Texas 6. Darktown Strutters Ball 7. Noboby Knows The Trouble I've Seen 8. Happy Times 9. Darling Nellie Gray 10. Southern Scene
Respect is due to the excellent musicianship of altoist Paul Desmond, bassist Eugene Wright, drummer Joe Morello and of course the maitre himself, pianist Dave Brubeck. Track Listing: 1. It's A Raggy Waltz 2. Bluette 3. Charles Matthew Hallelujah 4. Far More Blue 5. Far More Drums 6. Maori Blues 7. Unsquare Dance 8. Bru's Boogie Woogie 9. Blue Shadows In The Street
Tunes like Its A Raggy Waltz and Unsquare Dance allow Brubeck to show off his virtuosity, making some extremely difficult music seem absolutely effortless. A true classic! Also featuring the bonus track, Slow And Easy which was not released until 1996. Track Listing: 1. It's A Raggy Waltz 2. Bluette 3. Charles Matthew Halleluiah 4. Far More Blue 5. Unsquare Dance 6. Far More Drums 7. Maori Blues 8. Bru's Boogie Woogie 9. Blue Shadows In The Street 10. Slow And Easy (A.K.A. Lawless Mike) (Bonus)
Time Further Out continues the Dave Brubeck Quartet's exploration of unusual time signatures that began on the ensemble's definitive 1959 album Time Out. Accompanied by an all-star cast, the esteemed pianist arranging tunes according to the number of beats per bar, in the process rewriting rhythmic rules and dance steps. In fact, the tracks are ordered by the number of beats per bar, starting with "It's a Raggy Waltz" and "Bluette" in 3/4, "Charles Matthew Hallelujah" in 4/4, "Far More Blue" and "Far More Drums" in 5/4, "Maori Blues" in 6/4, "Unsquare Dance" in 7/4, "Bru's Boogie Woogie" in 8/8, and concluding with "Blue Shadows in the Street" in 9/8.
Like the original Time Out album, Time Further Out's cover features a work of modern art: a painting by Spanish artist Joan Miro. Mastered from the original analog tape by George Marino at Sterling Sounds in New York and pressed at RTI in Camarillo, California, this record has never sounded so alive or immediate. A must-have jazz benchmark. Track Listing: 1. It's A Raggy Waltz 2. Bluette 3. Charles Matthew Hallelujah 4. Far More Blue 5. Far More Drums 6. Maori Blues 7. Unsquare Dance 8. Bru's Boogie Woogie 9. Blue Shadows In The Street
'Time Out' is the 1959 album by The Dave Brubeck Quartet, based upon the use of time signatures that were unusual for jazz (mainly waltz or double-waltz time, but also 9/8, and most famously 5/4). Although the album was intended as an experiment and received negative reviews by critics upon its release, it became one of the best-known and biggest-selling jazz albums ever! Obviously, timing is everything!
Just over 50 years after its original release, we present this timeless album on 180 grams audiophile vinyl. Track Listing: 1. Blue Rondo A La Turk 2. Strange Meadow Lark 3. Take 5 4. 3 To Get Ready 5. Kathy's Waltz 6. Everybody's Jumpin' 7. Pick Up Sticks
His long-time musical partner, alto saxophonist Paul Desmond, wrote the Dave Brubeck Quartet's most famous piece, "Take Five", which is in 5/4 time and has endured as a jazz classic. Brubeck experimented with time signatures through much of his career, recording "Pick Up Sticks" in 6/4, "Unsquare Dance" in 7/8, and "Blue Rondo à la Turk" in 9/8. He also provided music for TV animated miniseries "This Is America, Charlie Brown".


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Template:Character Infobox Barty Blake[1] is the husband of Nan and the father of five identical daughters, as well as Daphne.
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Barty Blake is tall and blond. He wears a purple jacket over a white turtle-necked sweater, and purple pants.
He seems stiff and aristocratic. Like his wife he dislikes that Daphne isn't a prodigy like her older sisters and condemns her association with Mystery Inc..
Early life
He attended the wedding of one of his daughters, an unnamed astronaut daughter) who got married in a space-suit. His attire at that wedding included a purple sash, sword, and large gold medallion, suggesting he has a connection with foreign nobility.
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He talked to Daphne about Fred Jones and the gang.
Tried to get Daphne to date Rung Ladderton.
Dropped Daphne off at Darrow University.
The Blakes hosted a dinner party for Mr. Wang. Then later let the gang borrow the family boat.
He and his wife came to get Daphne out of jail. Daphne chose this moment to announce that she and Fred were engaged, to which he fainted at after hearing. He then later showed up after the Freak was caught to take Daphne home.
Season two
He spoke to Fred Jones, Jr. when he came to the door looking for Daphne.
The Blakes held a welcome home party for Brad Chiles and Judy Reeves at their mansion during which the Hodag attacked and robbed the guests of their jewelry.
He, Nan, Brad, and Judy decided to plan Fred's and Daphne's wedding.
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"You are ordered to go into a burning structure and bring out anyone inside, you come across a fellow firefighter, and a two year old child. You only have time to rescue one, the other one will perish...which do you choose to save? Why?"
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"You are ordered to go into a burning structure and bring out anyone inside, you come across a fellow firefighter, and a two year old child. You only have time to rescue one, the other one will perish...which do you choose to save? Why?"
Hope I'm never in the situation.
I would like to think that if I was the guy laying on the floor, that I would want my partner to take the child out first. I would expect the same from other firefighters.
Save the one that will live :rolleyes:
Boy, what a question.
I hope to never bwe in that situation but, i would do my best to save them both. Seeing that the average 2 yr old wieghs in at about 30 lbs9 I know cause I have one) and that is not too much I would say go for the gusto. Try to save them both. Dont be stupid though if you can get them both close enough to the door lweave the fireman and safe the child. THe firefighter has lived out some of his life and knows he may die doing his job. The two year old will hopefully grow up and take his place.
:) Dont ask these questions you are making me think.
Gotta go with Brian (Silver City 4) on this one.
Where did you dig up this interview question, because that is what it is. The correct answer is the fire fighter according to the official books.
My answer is the fire fighter its really quite a simple choice. The order to the public is LIFE, PROPERTY, ENVIORMENT when in all actuality and in the real world is ME, MY PARTNER, EVERYONE ELSE Now I will field all comments about me being a cold cruel S.O.B.
Not a nice thought for first thing in the morning, but here goes.
First answer, I agree with SilveCity, mostly. Grab the one who is most likely to live.
However, there is a second answer: if there could be a way to tie the two of them together, then I will attempt to drag them both. Hopefully they are co-located to begin with.
I hope I never come to have to make that kind a of a decision though, cuz I think it would haunt me forever after that. "Did I do the right choice?"
First of all Motown88 Im not going to call you a bad person cause you wouldnt save a 2 yr old. I am just curious of why you would not try to save them both. I know that when the adrenaline is there not much can get in the way. Maybe you need a boost of it. Go for the gusto save them both man and have a beer with your brother later. I have to agree it makes sense to safe the one who will live. :mad:
I am just curious of why you would not try to save them both.
Im pretty sure the answer to that is right in the question:
You only have time to rescue one
I have to say, it certainly is a tough call either way.
First of all this is a well used interview question. They are trying to see the "hero" mentality you possess, the trick is you cannot save both. You have to fully understand the question. If you answer "both" you have just lost the question.
MOTOWN'S take on this, the same reason I will step over civilians on the ground to get to the cop who was just shot or walk past burn victims to get to the brother who collapsed in the front yard HE'S MY BROTHER, HE'S A FELLOW FIRE FIGHTER, HE'S WEARING THE SAME UNIFORM.
I know the pain that is involved in losing a 2 year old in a fire and I know the pain of losing a brother, given the choice I will take the pain of a 2 year old.
Hmmmm. What a tough situation that would be! I honestly don't know what I would do; I am tempted to go with Silver on this one, but I could never give a definite answer, having never actually been put in that spot. Two things that popped into my head:
1.) You save your fellow firefighter and let the baby die. What kind of public reaction would you receive?? Seems to me the media would probably have a field day with that one. It could have a negative effect on your department...who knows?
2.) You save the baby and leave the firefighter behind. How would everyone in your department react? You may face some adversity from them. What kind of effect would this have on your job? Your morale? Your mental state? Etc, etc, etc...you get the point.
Just something to think about.
First choice (not interviewing) would be both. Second choice would be firefighter. Reasoning - the baby has already been in the bad environment before FD arrival and chances are it's in worse shape if not gone already. Firefighter (hopefully) has not been in area as long and has better chance of recovery. I would not want to leave a "recoverable" firefighter behind to rescue a "nonrecoverable" victim. I will now go hug and kiss my 21 month old very much and hope to never have to make this choice for real.
Firefighter. Chances are if you have two collapsed people, a fit firefighter in full turnouts and a (comparatively) weak child in street clothes, the one with greatest chance of survival is the FF. Of course, the emotions involved with kids are hard to overcome. Just look at our three lost brothers in NJ...
Gotta agree 100% with Motown on this.
I would call for HELP and save the one that was most likely to survive. You don't give much information here.... But that is my take.
It would be hard to leave either one. But...as someone said...the firefighter is better protected...(assuming the reason he is down is not cardiac arrest)...he may have more chances to survive.
However, even though you say I could only get one out....if they are both in the same area.....I can almost bet you that my adrenaline would let me get em both!
Maybe this is why I seem to have so much trouble with the interview part of the selection process...
What makes this question interesting is the assumptions that each of us made.
I assumed, as I think everyone else has, that the "fellow firefighter" is someone who came to the call with you and is in protective equipment. I also assumed that we are rescuing the victims from the heat, smoke and fire in the structure.
It could very well be an off-duty firefighter's house and his 2 year old child. It may be a collapse in another part of the structure. Anyway, not trying split hairs here, just thought it was interesting that we all seem to be thinking of the same situation.
I agree that "both" is the wrong answer. It's in the question that you only have time for one. And yes, it is me, my partner and everyone else...tough choice you'll have to live with either way. I hope no one is ever in that situation.
MOTOWN nailed it - the public doesn't really want to hear this, but it's a progression:
1. Me,
2. My partner(s),
3. Other FF's / Emergency Services personnel,
4. Civilians.
Wouldn't be popular in public circles, but other points brought out above factor in also - FF in turnouts & hopefully SCBA vs. baby unprotected; longer exposure for the baby, etc.
I think any FF would try and save both given the chance, but the question spelled out that you can only save one. Not an easy or good choice!
Agree with Mowtown, Partner first, sound the PASS or DSU, if you have got a length of personal line, tie the baby on to partner and go.
Real life or not...
I don't go in without a partner...
Think about it!
Sorry, I think it's a stupid question. They're both coming out unless there's only two of us there to begin with. Given no choice at all. The brother comes first.
I agree with Motown. The way I see it, MY BROTHER comes before civilians. The only thing is, in this type of situation (not having actually have been there myself) you wouldnt have time to think about which one you would save. Trying to guess "which one would survive" would put you in increasing danger while you sat there trying to figure it out, not to mention if the one you did carry out didnt make it anyway. I know we're "public servants" but I believe we have a duty to ourselves first, then our brothers and then the public.
Yeah, but what's that got to do with the question? ;)Quote:
MOTOWN posted:
Now I will field all comments about me being a cold cruel S.O.B.
I gotta agree with ya, bro. Everybody goes home, one way or the other. I'm taking my brother. Real world though, If I'm dragging an adult out, what's another 30lbs.? Especially when I've dumpped about 1.5 gallons of adrenaline. I wouldn't want to waste it.
This is a real question from many real oral boards...there is no evasion of the true question...put simply, what would YOU do and why? Not, "I would take both", or "I would have a partner". This is an ugly situation no question...but you have to make a choice...how would you decide? And what would be the consequences of your action?
Why not both? Lay the child on top of the firefighter (if the FF is concious have him hold the child) then drap both out at the same time!
Real life should not leave you with this choice.
You should not be it a FIRE/COLLAPSE area alone.
The word team should come into play here.
Test questions don't leave you with alturnitives,
as 13 year vet of the fire service, I can say that
I have never been in that situation(and hope never to be)
that situation. I have been running for an exit one
or twice. I have always found a sulition to the problem.
Most vets know the risk and why they went into this line
of work.
This is food for thought.
Why did you become a Firefighter.
All hearts ache when we lose a brother or sister!
Let pray we don't have to use our badge covers
again in the near future.


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EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) — The Minnesota Vikings have selected Iowa defensive tackle Christian Ballard with their fourth-round draft pick.
The Vikings took Ballard with the ninth choice of the round, 106th overall on Saturday. The 6-foot-3, 283-pound tackle could add depth at the position with Kevin Williams facing a four-game suspension and Pat Williams a free agent.
It's the first defensive player new head coach Leslie Frazier, a former defensive coordinator, has chosen in the draft.
The Vikings took quarterback Christian Ponder in the first round on Thursday and Notre Dame tight end Kyle Rudolph in the second round on Friday. They did not have a third-round pick because they traded it to New England for Randy Moss.
The Vikings have seven picks on the final day of the draft.
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Loraine Boettner
THE Bible declares that the salvation of sinful men is a matter of grace. From Eph. 1:7-10 we learn that the primary purpose of God in the work of redemption was to display the glory of this divine attribute so that through succeeding ages the intelligent universe might admire it as It is made known through His unmerited love and boundless goodness to guilty, vile, helpless creatures. Accordingly all men are represented as sunk in a state of sin and misery, from which they are utterly unable to deliver themselves. When they deserved only God's wrath and curse, He determined that He would graciously provide redemption for them by sending His own eternal Son to assume their nature and guilt and to obey and suffer in their stead, and His Holy Spirit to apply the redemption purchased by the Son. On the same representative principle by which Adam's sin is imputed to us, that is, set to our account in such a way that we are held fully responsible for it and suffer the consequences of it, our sin in its turn is imputed to Christ and His righteousness is imputed to us. This is briefly, yet clearly expressed in the Shorter Catechism, which says, "Justification is an act of God's free grace, wherein He pardoneth all our sins, and accepteth us as righteous in His sight, only for the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, and received by faith alone." Ans. to Q. 33. We should keep clearly in mind the distinction between the two covenants: that of works, under which Adam was placed and which resulted in the fall of the race into sin; and that of grace, under which Christ was sent as a Redeemer. As stated in another connection, the Arminian system makes no essential distinction in principle between the covenant of works and the covenant of grace, unless it be that God now offers salvation on lower terms and instead of demanding perfect obedience He accepts only such faith and evangelical obedience as the crippled sinner is able to render. In that system the burden of obedience is still thrown upon man himself and his salvation in the first place depends upon his own works. The word "grace" in its proper sense means the free and undeserved love or favor of God exercised toward the undeserving, toward sinners. It is something which is given irrespective of any worthiness in man; and to introduce works or merit into any part of this scheme vitiates its nature and frustrates its design. Just because it is grace, it is not given on the basis of preceding merits. As the very name imports, it is necessarily gratuitous; and since man is enslaved to sin until it is given, all the merits that he can have prior to it are bad merits and deserve only punishment, not gifts, or favor. Whatever of good men have, that God has given; and what they have not, why, of course, God has not given it. And since grace is given irrespective of preceding merits, it is therefore sovereign and is bestowed only on those whom God has selected for its reception. It is this sovereignty of grace, and not its foresight or the preparation for it, which places men in God's hands and suspends salvation absolutely on His unlimited mercy. In this we find the basis for His election or rejection of particular persons. Because of His absolute moral perfection God requires spotless purity and perfect obedience in his intelligent creatures. This perfection is provided in Christ's spotless righteousness being imputed to them; and when God looks upon the redeemed He sees them clothed with the spotless robe of Christ's righteousness, not with anything of their own. We are distinctly told that Christ suffered as a substitute, "the just for the unjust"; and when man is encouraged to think that he owes to some power or art of his own that salvation which in reality is all of grace, God is robbed of part of His glory. By no stretch of the imagination can a man's good works in this life be considered a just equivalent for the blessings of eternal life. Benjamin Franklin, though by no means a Calvinist, expressed this idea well when he wrote: "He that for giving a drink of water to a thirsty person, should expect to be paid with a good plantation, would be modest in his demands, compared with those who think they deserve heaven for the little good they do on earth." We are, in fact, nothing but receivers; we never bring any adequate reward to God, we are always receiving from Him, and shall be unto all eternity. 2. GOD MAY GIVE OR WITHHOLD GRACE AS HE PLEASES Since God has provided this redemption or atonement at His own cost, it is His property and He is absolutely sovereign in choosing who shall be saved through it. There is nothing more steadily emphasized in the Scripture doctrine of redemption than its absolutely gracious character. Hence, by their separation from the original mass, not through any works of their own but only through the free grace of God, the vessels of mercy see how great a gift has been bestowed upon them. It will be found that many who inherit heaven were much worse sinners in this world than were many others who are lost. The doctrine of Predestination cuts down every self-righteous imagination which would detract from the glory of God. It convinces the one who is saved that he can only be eternally thankful that God saved him. Hence in the Calvinistic system all boasting is excluded and that honor and glory which belong to God alone is fully preserved. "The greatest saint," says Zanchius, "cannot triumph over the most abandoned sinner, but is led to refer the entire praise of his salvation, both from sin and hell, to the mere goodwill and sovereign purpose of God, who hath graciously made him to differ from that world which lieth in wickedness."1 3. SALVATION NOT TO BE EARNED BY MAN All men naturally feel that they should earn their salvation, and a system which makes some provision in that regard readily appeals to them. But Paul lays the axe to such reasoning when he says, "If there had been a law given which could make alive, verily righteousness would have been of the law," Gal. 3:21; and Jesus said to His disciples, "when ye shall have done all the things that are commanded of you, say, We are unprofitable servants; we have done that which it was our duty to do," Luke 17:10. Our own righteousness, says Isaiah, is but as a polluted garment — or, as the King James Version puts it, as filthy rags — in the sight of God (64:6). And when Isaiah wrote, "Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price," 55:1, he invited the penniless, the hungry, the thirsty, to come and take possession of, and enjoy the provision, free of all cost, as if by right of payment. And to buy without money must mean that it has already been produced and provided at the cost of another. The further we advance in the Christian life, the less we are inclined to attribute any merit to ourselves, and the more to thank God for all. The believer not only looks forward to everlasting life, but also looks backward into the ante-mundane eternity and finds in the eternal purpose of divine love the beginning and the firm anchorage of his salvation. If salvation is of grace, as the Scriptures so clearly teach, it cannot be of works, whether actual or foreseen. There is no merit in believing, for faith itself is a gift of God. God gives His people an inward working of the Spirit in order that they may believe, and faith is only the act of receiving the proffered gift. It is, then, only the instrumental cause, and not the meritorious cause, of salvation. What God loves in us is not our own merits, but His own gift; for His unmerited grace precedes our meritorious works. Grace is not merely bestowed when we pray for it, but grace itself causes us to pray for its continuance and increase. In the book of The Acts we find that the very inception of faith itself is assigned to grace (18:27); only those who were ordained to eternal life believed (13:48); and it is God's prerogative to open the heart so that it gives heed to the gospel (16:14). Faith is thus referred to the counsels of eternity, the events in time being only the out-working. Paul attributes it to the grace of God that we are "His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them," Eph. 2:10. Good works, then, are in no sense the meritorious ground but rather the fruits and proof of salvation. Luther taught this same doctrine when he said of some that, It is said that Jeremy Taylor and a companion were once walking down a street in London when they came to a drunk man lying in the gutter. The other man made some disparaging remark about the drunk man. But Jeremy Taylor, pausing and looking at him, said, "But for the grace of God, there lies Jeremy Taylor!" The spirit which was in Jeremy Taylor is the spirit which should be in every sin-rescued Christian. It was repeatedly taught that Israel owed her separation from the other peoples of the world not to anything good or desirable in herself, but only to God's gracious love faithfully persisted in despite apostasy, sin, and rebellion. Paul says concerning some who would base salvation on their own merits, that, "going about to establish their own righteousness, they did not submit themselves to the righteousness of God," and were, therefore, not in the Church of Christ. He makes it plain that "the righteousness of God" is given to us through faith, and that we enter heaven pleading only the merits of Christ. The reason for this system of grace is that those who glory should glory in the Lord, and that no person should ever have occasion to boast over another. The redemption was purchased at an infinite cost to God Himself, and therefore it may be dispensed as He pleases in a purely gracious manner. As the poet has said:
"None of the ransomed ever knew, Let us now notice some of those scriptures which teach that our sins were imputed to Christ; and then notice some which teach that His righteousness is imputed to us. "Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and Jehovah hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all," Is. 53:4,5. "By the knowledge of Himself shall my righteous servant justify many, and He shall bear their iniquities He bare the sin of many," Is. 53:11, 12. "Him who knew no sin He made to be sin on our behalf; that we might become the righteousness of God in Him," II Cor, 5:21. Here both truths are plainly stated, — our sins are set to His account, and His righteousness to ours. There is no other conceivable sense in which He could be "made sin," or we "made the righteousness of God." It was Christ "who His own self bare our sins in His body upon the tree, that we, having died unto sins, might live unto righteousness; by whose stripes we are healed," I Peter 2:24. Here, again, both truths are thrown together. "Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that He might bring us to God," I Peter 3:18. These, and many other such verses, prove the doctrine of His substitution in our stead, as plainly as language can put it. If they do not prove that the death Of Christ was a true and proper sacrifice for sin in our stead, human language cannot express it. That His righteousness is imputed to us is taught in language equally plain. "By the works of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight . . . But now apart from the law a righteousness of God hath been manifested . . . even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe . . . being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in His blood, to show His righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; for the showing, I say, of His righteousness at this present season; that He might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay, but by the law of faith. We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law," Rom. 3:20-28. "So then as through one trespass the judgment came unto all men to condemnation; even so through one act of righteousness the free gift came unto all men to justification of life. For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the one shall the many be made righteous," Rom. 5:18, 19. Paul's testimony in regard to himself was: "I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith," Phil. 3:8,9. Now, is it not strange that any one who pretends to be guided by the Bible, could, in the face of all this plain and unequivocal language, uphold salvation by works, in any degree whatever? Paul wrote to the Romans, "Sin shall not have dominion over you; for ye are not under law, but under grace," 6:14. That is, God had taken them out from under a system of law and had placed them under a system of grace; and as their Sovereign, it was not His purpose to let them again fall under the dominion of sin. In fact, if they were to fall, it could only be because God had taken them out from under grace and again placed them under law, so that their own works determined their destiny. In the very nature of the case as long as the person is under grace he is entirely free from any claim that the law may have on him through sin. For one to be saved through grace means that God is no longer treating him as he deserves but that He has sovereignly set the law aside and that He saves him in spite of his ill-desert, — cleansing him from his sin, of course, before he is fit to enter the divine presence. Paul goes to great pains to make it clear that the grace of God is not earned by us, is not secured by us in any way, but is just given to us. If it be earned, it ceases by that very fact to be grace, Rom. 11:6. In the present state of the race all men stand before God, not as citizens of a state, all of whom must be treated alike and given the same "chance" for salvation, but rather as guilty and condemned criminals before a righteous judge. None have any claim to salvation. The marvel is, not that God doesn't save all, but that when all are guilty He pardons so many; and the answer to the question, Why does He not save all? is to be found, not in the Arminian denial of the omnipotence of His grace, but in the fact that, as Dr. Warfield says, "God in His love saves as many of the guilty race of man as He can get the consent of His whole nature to save."3 For reasons known to Himself He sees that it is not best to pardon all, but that some should be permitted to have their own way and be left to eternal punishment in order that it may be shown what an awful thing is sin and rebellion against God. Time and again the Scriptures repeat the assertion that salvation is of grace, as if anticipating the difficulty which men would have in coming to the conclusion that they could not earn salvation by their own works. Thus also they destroy the widespread notion that God owes salvation to any. "By grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God; not of works, that no man should glory," Eph. 2:8, 9. "But if it is of grace, it is no more of works; otherwise grace is no more grace," Rom. 11:6. "By the works of the law shall no flesh be justified," Rom. 3:20. "Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned as of grace, but as of debt," Born. 4:4. "Who maketh thee to differ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive?" I Cor. 4:7. "By the grace of God I am what I am," I Cor. 15:10. "Who hath first given to Him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?" Born. 11:35. "The free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord," Rom. 6:23. Grace and works are mutually exclusive; and as well might we try to bring the two poles together as to effect a coalition of grace and works in salvation. As well might we talk of a "purchased gift," as to talk of "conditional grace," for when grace ceases to be absolute it ceases to be grace. Therefore when the Scriptures say that salvation is of grace we are to understand that it is through its whole process the work of God and that any truly meritorious works done by man are the result of the change which has already been wrought. Arminianism destroys this purely gracious character of salvation and substitutes a system of grace plus works. No matter how small a part these works may play they are necessary and are the basis of the distinction between the saved and the lost and would then afford occasion for the saved to boast over the lost since each had equal opportunity. But Paul says that all boasting is excluded, and that he who glories should glory in the Lord (Rom. 3:27; 1 Cor. 1:31). But if saved by grace, the redeemed remembers the mire from which he was lifted, and his attitude toward the lost is one of sympathy and pity. He knows that but for the grace of God he too would have been in the same state as those who perish, and his song is, "Not unto us, O Lord, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy and for thy truth's sake." Notes
Author Dr. Boettner was born on a farm in northwest Missouri. He was a graduate of Princeton Theological Seminary (Th.B., 1928; Th.M., 1929), where he studied Systematic Theology under the late Dr. C. W. Hodge. Previously he had graduated from Tarkio College, Missouri, and had taken a short course in Agriculture at the University of Missouri. In 1933 he received the honorary degree of Doctor of Divinity, and in 1957 the degree of Doctor of Literature. He taught Bible for eight years in Pikeville College, Kentucky. A resident of Washington, D.C., eleven years and of Los Angeles three years. His home was in Rock Port, Missouri. His other books include: Roman Catholicism, Studies in Theology, Immortality, and The Millennium. Return to Calvinism and the Reformed Faith :-) <—— |


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Sighting Basics
Case Number | 45499 |
Log Number | US-01312013-0007 |
Date Submitted | 01/31/2013 09:10 UTC |
Date of the Event | 12/20/2012 12:00 UTC |
Source | MUFON |
Disposition | Unresolved |
Summary | cartoon like glow but reflected setting sun like metal height speed and path like a medivac chopper |
Tags | none |
Sighting Location
City | Akron |
Region | Ohio |
Country | United States |
Latitude | 41.082455 |
Longitude | -81.515705 |
The latitude and longitude presented here is an approximation to protect the reporters identity
Sighting Specifics
Viewing Distance | 101-500 Feet |
Sighting Duration | Undisclosed |
Object Features | None |
Object Flight Path | Straight-line path |
Object Shape | Cigar, Cylinder |
Weather Factors | Unknown |
Sighting Details
a coworker and i were out back of factory and i looked up. i see this cigar cylinder shape glowing a dull yellow like a half dead flourecent light moving from south to north just above the tree tops like when we see a medivac chopper. it looked unreal sort of like a cartoon image drawn over camera footage. that is until the setting sun hit the side of it and a metallic shine glistened off the side and the edge of the rear. i could see the ends were perfectly rounded, not tapered or flat like a true cylinder. i looked past it for a moment and saw a passenger jet far above with sun glare and a contrail. i could make out the wings the sky was very clear, but the object had no details at all until the sun reflected off the side. i watched it for just over two minutes until it was out of sight over the trees. my coworker was clueless on what it could have been as well. |
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A very nice little car. I sampled the six speed manual version and found it to be responsive and comfortable. The interior was attractive and appeared well designed and put together. The EPA mpg numbers are 28 city and 42 highway, and you can take one home for less than $20,000. It deserves serious consideration if you want a smaller car that is economical to drive yet doesn't feel cheap.
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breld Posts: 1,631I had a similar experience with the Cruze last year when I tested one out (same model as roadburner drove). Other than the sedan-only body style, the only thing I really didn't care for was the brakes.
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ateixeira Posts: 72,587Hmm, I didn't like the Sentra rental my wife got. Maybe yours was better equipped.
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corvette United StatesPosts: 4,315I had the old Sentra as a rental and liked it, which is one of the reasons I bought my current Altima. The Sentra I had was a stripped model, and most of my gripes were about the level of equipment it had--it drove nicely.0 ·
corvette United StatesPosts: 4,315Took the GLI on a trip around the Cumberland Falls area today. There are lots of nice curvy roads around there. I had a route planned out and uploaded to my Garmin (I brought it along for that reason), but it got confused several times along the way. Regardless of the route, I drove on some really fun roads. The GLI handles really well and is fun to drive. I averaged at least 31 MPG (I calculated 31.5 when I filled the tank, the trip computer read over 32), which I thought was impressive. I drove about 20 miles on the interstate and reset the second trip computer for that run--it reported 30 MPG at 80 MPH. One nice thing about the turbo is that you don't have to give it 100% throttle to accelerate briskly.
Now the bad: My left knee cramped up within a few hours, which is odd since the car is an automatic! I'm hoping it's related to the three miles I walked yesterday and not due to the positioning of the dead pedal, which is a large plastic molded affair and not a little piece of rubber glued to the carpet like the Altima. Also, the car now has exactly 1,000 miles and I'm able to measure some tire wear with my digital tire depth gauge, which doesn't bode well. :surprise:0 · -
gouldn Posts: 221The Forester threw a CEL and with 200.5k I don't blame it! So I stepped up the replacement activities today. I really didn't like the way the Prius V drove, but really like the idea of high MPG, so I tried a Plug In Prius today. They only have two trim levels, and the upper trim level is right at $40K ... um no. So i test drove the $32K version. Overall ... not a bad car, but no, I guess I cannot deal with the Prius driving experience. It was marginally better than the Prius V ... it's not horrible, it's just antiseptic ... if that's a word to describe the dull driving experience. The car itself was comfortable, and had neat electronic do-dads. Maybe it's time get over my experience of my 1993 Audi and give them another chance with the A3 tdi. Honestly though I think I'm gonna end up with a 2014 Forester Limited, provided the CVT isn't horrible. If I cannot deal with the CVT I'll probably go with the new RAV4 or maybe a Mazda CX5. I called the Redwood City Subaru dealer and even though their website shows one in stock .. they say there are NONE in stock until mid March.
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sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,992Just finished packing a lunch and about to head out. Leaving Lauderdale at 7 a m as folks want to get home by 4ish if possible. You can tell it's season in Florida as there was traffic on both coasts yesterday...75 was just as bad as 95 and add in construction on both highways, well...driving can be a real test of patience at times. Why do northerners drive like crazy folk? No signals, pulling out in front into the left speed lane without a signal...I could go on! Yesterday I was mentally worn out by the time we got to the Tampa airport and luckily could relax on the return trip. I have both iPods with me so I'll have continuous tunes to listen to as I just close my eyes and veg on the way home. The music relaxes me and takes the stress away.
Here's to having a great day and hopefully I'll get a comfortable vehicle I've never driven before!
The Tired Sandman :sick: :shades:2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)
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tommister2 Mechanicsville, VAPosts: 171Have you seen the Ford C-Max? The new issue of Motor Trend compared it to the Prius and they liked the Ford better. Might be worth a test drive for you.1994 Jeep Wrangler, 1997 Jeep Wrangler, 2011 Toyota Camry, 2012 Honda Pilot, 2013 Toyota Tundra, 2014 Mustang GT0 ·
ateixeira Posts: 72,587A roadster makes a great 2nd vehicle, but not a primary one.
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kyfdx Posts: 33,674I once had a delivery route that encircled Lake Cumberland, each day. Pretty scenery and curvy roads, but not that much fun in an Econoline..
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michaellno Posts: 4,300Went away for the weekend to celebrate the wife's birthday. While we were out and about we started talking about cars for her.
She commented that she saw an ad for the fiat 500 - lease for $199 mo. So I jumped online with my phone and found a red "pop" model with automatic and alloys for under $18 grand.
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roadburner Posts: 7,333She commented that she saw an ad for the fiat 500 - lease for $199 mo. So I jumped online with my phone and found a red "pop" model with automatic and alloys for under $18 grand.
My Fiat "Studio" is hot to sell me an Abarth; I think that they want some cars in the hands of gearheads who will give then some visibility at HPDEs and such. So far I've been offered one for $2000 off MSRP, which means I can get one equipped the way I'd want for @$23,500. As I've said before, I really liked the one I test drove.Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5
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michaellno Posts: 4,300There are lots of 2012 500's still on the lots. Don't know what kind of deals are available off sticker; wife just likes that the 500 is "cute".
I think a problem would arise when she puts foot to throttle to find out that 101hp is a bit less than she's used to. Do they offer an abarth with the auto?
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roadburner Posts: 7,333Do they offer an abarth with the auto?
In Europe you can get an Abarth with a DSG, but I believe it has less horsepower than the US model- Europeans get several Abarth models, and the Abarth EsseEsse is the European equivalent of the US Abarth, In Europe our 500 Turbo is also called an Abarth- and there are several Special Editions as well.Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 1975 2002A 2007 Mazdaspeed 3 1999 Wrangler 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2009 328i Son's: 2004 X3 2.5
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jayrider Posts: 3,588They have a black Abarth in the mall. Wife and I looked it over. Very small but nicely appointed. Asked her if she would like to wake up one morning and take it on a road trip from coast to coast. "Absolutely," she said, "If I was still 18." I test drove one and it would be fine around town or on a short commute -- I'd really like to fit a set of golf cart tires on it and use it on the course. Heat and A/C. :shades:0 ·
stickguy Posts: 16,408no, not a car, but I finally got gas again in the Integra! Took a whopping 7 gallons. Worked out to be 23 MPG, over 2 months of mostly sitting and very short hops. Doubt it has really been warmed up fully more than 1-2 times since I had it!
so I took a little drive to burn off the gunk and moisture. About 20 miles, with 15 or so on a local semi-highway, so minutes at a time at 60-65. Seemed to enjoy it, and was running smoother when I got home.2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)
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fintail Posts: 35,033First week with the new car - city mpg - 95% of my driving so far - is averaging 24-25mpg, which already beats EPA estimates (surprising as traffic controls here are so stupid), where the old car was usually around 14mpg. If only that could translate into enough savings to cover the payment. No issues with the car yet, but I am taking it in tomorrow to have the gas door aligned and a loose exhaust tip fixed.
50 years of evolution:
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kyfdx Posts: 33,674Abarth at the Cincinnati auto show stickered at $28K. :surprise:
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stickguy Posts: 16,408The 500 looks like a fun little around-town runabout, but really does not seem like a viable choice for Michael's wife to do her business travelling with.
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tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025Love the pictures, sounds like you are enjoying the new ride.
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mark156 Posts: 2,006What year is the Blue Mercedes and what number is on the back?
Great pics!
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Podcast: One For Ten
Add comment February 9th, 2013 Headsman
We've just posted a new podcast conversation with Will Francome of One For Ten, a documentary project that's aiming to produce a series of short films about ten people exonerated from death row in the U.S. Here's One For Ten's pilot on Ray Krone.
One For Ten is crowdsourcing £30,000 needed to fund the project. You can donate here. (Full disclosure: I did so myself.)
New Yorkers can check out a launch party this coming Wednesday, February 13th. For the rest of us, there's much more at OneForTen.com or @one_for_ten.
Check it out here, or on our podbean satellite site.
Also on this date
- 1887: Clement Arthur Day
- 1943: The last five Young Guards shot in Krasnodon
- c. 415 B.C.E.: The men of Melos
- 1555: John Hooper
- 2011: Martin Link
- 1619: Lucilio Vanini, aka Giulio Cesare
- 1929: José de León Toral, assassin of Álvaro Obregón
- 1963: Abd al-Karim Qasim, Iraqi Prime Minister
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Francisco Rodriguez's first stint in New York didn't end so well, but the free agent relieving is looking for work and "would love to" have a reunion with the Mets.
"To come back and redeem myself would be great, because I've got to be realistic and honest," Rodriguez told Christina De Nicola of MLB.com. "You would have to be real blind to not see that I fell when I was there. That's not even a question. To be able to get one more shot and get it done would be great."
Of course, Rodriguez hasn't actually heard from the Mets and … well, he shouldn't be waiting by the phone.
It is interesting that he hasn't found a gig somewhere, though, because for all his baggage Rodriguez is still just 31 years old and was an effective setup man for the Brewers during the past one-and-a-half seasons with a 3.65 ERA and 105 strikeouts in 101 innings. He'd upgrade a lot of bullpens, but either his price tag remains too high or teams have decided he's simply not worth the hassle.
- baseballisboring - Mar 6, 2013 at 4:50 PM
Jesus, K Rod is only 31? I know he was young when he came up but I definitely thought he was 34/35.
- thebadguyswon - Mar 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM
The Mets aren't going to sign him, obviously. But I'm surprised no one has offered him a deal.
- multiplemiggs - Mar 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM
Tigers no?
- bla bla bla - Mar 6, 2013 at 8:36 PM
" and was an effective setup man for the Brewers during the past one-and-a-half seasons "
Well, you got the "and-a-half" right. He was effective for the second half of 2011, but pretty much stunk up the joint last year.
- pisano - Mar 6, 2013 at 9:32 PM
Frankie, I sure wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Mets to call you, if you have any other options, take them.
- badintent - Mar 7, 2013 at 1:05 AM
selling pretzels outside Shea.
- 11thstreetmafia - Mar 7, 2013 at 11:46 PM
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Steven Yeun on Glenn's Smartest, Dumbest Moves on The Walking Dead — 11 Condoms!
Without Glenn Rhee (Steven Yeun), The Walking Dead would've had to end after the first episode. He's the one who saved Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) in Atlanta, and brought together what is now the former Team Prison. Season 4 is returning with Episode 9 this Sunday, and AMC had Steven look back on Glenn's evolution over the past four years. Glenn's a tough, resourceful dude, Steven said, and he's driven by his heart. However, "he's done some pretty dumb things." They showed the clip on Season 2 when Glenn, fresh from his unexpected sexy time with Maggie Greene (Lauren Cohan), hits her with this great line: "You know we still have 11 condoms..." Steven acknowledges, "That was dumb. Really dumb." (Maggie's response was great, though: "Yeah, you see 11 condoms; I see 11 minutes of my life I'm never getting back." Glenn: "It wasn't that bad ... was it?" Apparently not, since they got engaged!) Glenn has also done some very clever things, and Steven singled out his character's impressive Woodbury walker fight in Season 3. "The smartest thing Glenn has done is making a bone shiv out of a walker's arm, breaking a chair, killing the walker," Steven said. Glenn was tied up as a walker attacked, somewhat similar to Andrea's (Laurie Holden) position in the Season 3 finale, but he proved himself to be a much better survivor. So we just hope Glenn stays that tough in the second half of Season 4, since photos and promos have shown him beat up (again) as he presumably searches the known world for his fianceé, Maggie. "Glenn just keeps going," Steven said, giving us a little hope for his future. "He just keeps going." He's our Energizer Bunny. What do you think about Glenn's evolution from the past four seasons? Are you hopeful for his future with Maggie, or do you prefer Glenn when he has to be scrappy and resourceful on his own? Source: AMC


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Beef tenderloin is so popular (and expensive) because it's so tender and rich. The good news is the butcher will trim the tenderloin so only the most tender meat remains, which means you only need to buy as much as you need. To determine how much tenderloin you need to purchase, use the chart below. Plan on four servings per pound of tenderloin.
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Weight |
Approximate Roasting Time |
Final Roasting Temperature |
Tenderloin roast |
1 pound |
35 to 40 minutes |
140°F (145°F medium rare after standing) |
2 to 3 pounds |
35 to 40 minutes |
135°F (145°F medium rare after standing) |
4 to 5 pounds |
50 to 60 minutes |
135°F (145°F medium rare after standing) |
Trim any fat and silver skin (thin, pearlescent membrane running along top of tenderloin) from the tenderloin. Season as desired. For a whole tenderloin, fold under the tapered end (tail) or cut it off for more even cooking. Timings below are based on meat removed directly from the refrigerator.
Roast: Browning the tenderloin first is optional, but it does caramelize the outside and lock in the juices. In a large skillet heat olive oil over medium-high heat. Quickly brown the tenderloin on all sides in the hot oil. Transfer the roast to a rack in a shallow roasting pan. Preheat oven to 425°F. Insert an oven-going thermometer into the center of the tenderloin. Roast, uncovered, until desired doneness according to the timings below. Transfer meat to a cutting board and cover with foil. Let stand for 15 minutes before slicing. The temperature of the meat will rise during this time (this is reflected in the timings below).
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Description |
How to use it |
Whole tenderloin roast, trimmed |
This is a long, cylindrical, boneless cut from the loin. Usually about 4 to 6 pounds. |
Cooked whole, it is ideal for larger groups. Roast it or grill it. |
Center-cut tenderloin roast |
This cut, from the center portion of the tenderloin, is the most consistent portion with regard to size. Because the butcher needs to cut this roast, you can request the size you need. |
Consider this smaller cut for Sunday dinner or date night. Roast it or grill it. |
Butt end |
This is the larger end of the tenderloin. |
Cut it into thin steaks, which are good for grilling or sautéing. |
Tail |
This endpiece tapers in size, so it is hard to yield consistent roasts or steaks, though it still offers the same tender meat. |
Cut it into bite-size pieces or strips for recipes that benefit from tender meat, such as kabobs, stir-fry, or stroganoff. |
Tenderloin steaks |
This cut is from the center or butt end of the tenderloin. Filet mignon steaks come from the small end of the center cut. |
These steaks are excellent for grilling, broiling, or sautéing. Consider finishing the steaks with a sauce. |
Grill: For a charcoal grill, arrange medium-hot coals around a drip pan. Test for medium heat above the drip pan. Place meat on the grill rack over drip pan. Cover and grill, allowing 3/4 to 1 hour for a 2- to 3-pound roast (135°F) and 1 to 1 1/4 hours for a 4- to 5-pound roast (135°F). Add more charcoal to maintain heat as necessary. (For gas grill, preheat grill. Reduce heat to medium. Adjust heat for indirect cooking.) Cover and let stand for 15 minutes before slicing. The temperature of the meat will rise 10°F during the standing time.
For more tenderloin roast recipes, see:
Sauté: Heat skillet over medium-high heat until hot. Add 1 tablespoon butter and reduce heat to medium. (Or spray cool skillet with nonstick cooking spray before heating; continue as directed.) Cook, uncovered, for 7 to 9 minutes for 3/4-inch steaks or 10 to 13 minutes for 1-inch steaks to desired doneness (145°F for medium rare and 160°F for medium).
Grill: For a charcoal grill, place meat on the rack of an uncovered grill directly over medium coals. Grill to desired doneness, turning once halfway through grilling. Allow 10 to 12 minutes for medium rare (145°F) or 12 to 15 minutes for medium(160°F). (For a gas grill, preheat grill. Reduce heat to medium. Place meat on grill rack over heat. Cover the grill.) Remove steaks from grill; cover and let stand for 5 minutes.
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This 1965 BMW R60 is not running but is in good shape according to the seller. It looks very complete in the only thumbnail pic provided. Find it here on Craigslist in Rio Rancho, New Mexico for only $1300 OBO.
My knowledge of these bikes is minimal but they are beautiful. Me thinks Bernard may have gone to an undisclosed location to avoid the incoming. Always useful to tread lightly among the BaT/Throttle Yard faithful…as they are a knowledgeable and relentless lot.
I offered over the asking price and got a response that said that they would call me back. No call for a few days, then finally I received a call this morning telling me that it had been sold for double the advertised price. Still a very good deal if you ask me…
What you be sniffin' brother? Check it – old bikes, classic bikes, require maintenance – if all you can site is slingers, you know nothing. The quality of these bikes make them VERY rebuildable, and when done right they run strong and long a LONG time. I know, I have a few. You are buying a 69S because someone told you they are faster or some crap – understand that they are a whole different kettle of fish man. Before you go slamming people, maybe you want to educate yourself just a tiny bit? Oh, and if you are such a whore as to part a bike like that one out, you will make SEVERAL times the asking price! Better check your facts son, before you try to do anything with that 69S. Better yet, you are right, they are super hard to maintain and way too expensive – better just sell it to me, eh?
Please provide an itemized list that adds up to an $8500 engine rebuild. A crank rebuild is typically the most expensive item, so I'm wondering where you get the remaining $7200.
Tim Stafford does really nice work, but I think anyone who pays $20-25k for a '55 to '69 BMW is nuts. These bikes are not rare and don't justify those kinds of prices.
The slinger issue is overblown. I know folks who have put 100k miles on /2's without tearing down the slingers. I'm not sure what you mean by "slingers that need to be cleaned frequently" but once it's done, I doubt most folks will need a repeat in their lifetime given the types of mileage these bikes accumulate as sunny weekend riders.
Once sorted, a /2 is a nice bike that requires minimal maintenance. Parts are easy to find because the bikes didn't change much for almost 15 years, and BMW made a crapload of them. They have some issues, but most of those will have been sorted by now on a rider.
It would be nice to know more about what's missing/broken; but it certainly makes an attractive project. Totally classic.
"It's not running, needs some work…"
In other words, either the battery is flat or a con rod has escaped through the case, or something between those two extremes. Ah Craigslist, how we love thee.
Of course, with this bike it really doesn't matter-1300 bucks, has title, and as BaT says it looks mostly there. Lots of fun wrenching and then riding for a lucky New Mexican.
There is a huge difference between an R60/2 & an R69S! Production numbers alone are probably a 100K to 150K different. In my limited experience a 60/2 engine would not be that difficult to find.
Don't know where you are located, but So. Cal has a few outlets for R69S 'stuff': Blackcat Motor Werks or Irv Seaver BMW are 2 expert shops.
ps…I have NO connection to either shop, but know the owners of both, & my personal experience w/both has been nothing but outstanding. On the other-hand: I'm now in So. Florida & the lack of decent BMW techs astounding.
Looks like you have no ides what you are talking about. I've been looking for a used R69S engine for 4 years now, every single day, everywhere. A new crank from BMW Classic costs $2,500, a rebuild of one S1,300. A standard engine rebuild at Vech's or anybody smart enough to do it right $5,500 to $8,500.00. A bike restoration from Tim Stafford is a $20,000 to $25,000 affair. Yes, these bikes are simple and they are beautiful and when they are done right they are pure magic, but since they have no oil filters but only slingers that need to be cleaned frequently in order to keep the engine alive, which requires to take it apart, it's a very expensive motorcycle to keep running. Basically, once you buy one, even a running one, you need to have the oil slingers cleaned unless it had been done recently or you are risking a $8,000 bill eventually.
The only thing I agree with you is that at the price offered, the bike would be worth 2 times the asking price in parts, and it would also be a good candidate for a Slash 5 or 6 engine conversion, which would come much, much cheaper.
Engines on these are widely avail used and very simple… changing the head gasket is two bolts and an actual 20 minute job… if you've never done it before… compare that with a modern sportbike where you've got three hours of part removal to even get at the head and you'll love the simplicity of these bikes.
Plus lots of fun tricks, like carb plug for high altitude, storage box in the tank and top of the engine ( a little bizarre), etc.
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We, 0x20 in Ghent, are very proud to invite you to a party this Friday evening in our hackerspace. Reason to celebrate: We'll be having our 100th meeting next thursday. So, come join us and have some fun. We'll make sure there's enough drinks & food for everyone. For people who need sleeping places, please mail to firstname.lastname@example.com and we'll see how we can help out.
There will be an Arcade competition, one glass of free Cava for every one attending and pizza for a democratic price.
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Bad days. We all have them; some of us deserve them.
Here are five stocks whose naughty ways drew investors' scorn on Wednesday:
Company |
Closing Price |
CAPS Rating (5 max) |
% Change |
52-Week Range |
Scientific Games |
$19.45 |
** |
(30.91%) |
$15.87-$40.70 |
Stereotaxis |
$8.91 |
** |
(22.39%) |
$8.07-$16.88 |
PFF Bancorp |
$8.15 |
* |
(21.26%) |
$7.12-$34.67 |
California Pizza Kitchen |
$10.10 |
** |
(17.69%) |
$9.32-$25.23 |
Portugal Telecom |
$13.37 |
**** |
(8.49%) |
$12.46-$15.23 |
Well, OK, we can't exactly call these stocks naughty. But none of them gets much love from our 81,000-person-strong Motley Fool CAPS community of amateur and professional stock pickers.
To the contrary -- when it comes to these stocks, CAPS investors have gone thumbs-down more often than film critic Roger Ebert. They don't believe any of these stocks are worth owning, and they think some may be worth shorting.
Which of today's candidates is worst? Read on, dear Fool.
We begin with PFF Bancorp, which said that it would need to once again set aside funds to cover anticipated loan and lease losses. Management expects reserves to be "comparable" to the $34 million PFF held back last quarter.
PFF isn't alone, of course. No less than Washington Mutual (NYSE: WM ) faces a similar problem. Security Bank (Nasdaq: SBKC ) , too. Talk about cold comfort.
Next up is California Pizza Kitchen, which reported decelerating same-store sales in its fourth quarter. Quoting from the press release:
During its November 8, 2007 conference call, the Company forecasted a comparable restaurant sales increase of 2.0%-3.0% and fourth quarter 2007 earnings in the range of $0.22-$0.23 per diluted share. Based on fourth quarter 2007 revenues and comparable restaurant sales of 2.8%, 1.7% and 0.7% in October, November and December, respectively, management now expects earnings of $0.16-$0.18 per diluted share. [Emphasis added.]
Declining same-store sales, or comps, is rarely a good sign. Here, it suggests that CPK's lower-income customers are reacquainting themselves with the frozen food aisle, rather than stopping in for a barbeque chicken watchamacallit.
But our winner is Scientific Games, which lost its third online lottery contract in a month, this time for the state of Pennsylvania. Earlier losses came in South Carolina and West Virginia.
If we were talking primary politics, Scientific Games would already be out of the race. No bunting, no confetti, just a concession speech before a throng of dispirited supporters coming down from a triple-espresso high.
A Jefferies & Co. analyst excused the losses by explaining that Scientific Games is now aiming for "higher return on invested capital contracts." Good idea. Return on capital has declined every year since 2004.
Now if only there were some high ROIC contracts on which to bid. Scientific Games and its lottery-contract losing streak ... Wednesday's worst stock in the CAPS world.
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WASHINGTON, May 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Focusing on critical healthcare reform efforts and best practices essential to reducing preventable adverse events, and responding to President Obama's bold principles for change, influential leaders will gather at the National Patient Safety Foundation Congress this week to discuss the fundamental shifts necessary to keep patients safe and strengthen the quality of care.
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The Administration's newly-released principles for Transforming and Modernizing America's Health Care System include a key mandate to improve patient safety and care. A decade after the seminal Institute of Medicine report To Err Is Human: Building a Safer Health System, and despite a determined focus across healthcare, multiple tens of thousands of Americans still die each year as a result of unintended adverse events, including healthcare associated infections. The personal toll is devastating, and the economic impact, estimated at upwards of $26 billion annually, is staggering.
In tandem with the Administration's calls for dramatic change in healthcare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently announced Recovery Act resources designed to support critical patient safety efforts, stating that "the status quo is unsustainable."
Program Highlights:
IOM Report Retrospective and the Decade Ahead
This expert panel will feature distinguished members of the Lucian Leape Institute, including a number of architects of the To Err Is Human report, and will provide a retrospective on accomplishments in patient safety in the ten years since the release of this pivotal publication. With this foundation of knowledge, these leaders will
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