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COLUMBIA — Megan Ogar wasn't planning on working out Saturday.
But when she arrived at CrossFit Fringe to support a fundraiser for her brother Kevin, she changed her mind.
And that's how she ended up doing the Ogar WOD, a CrossFit "Workout Of the Day" named after her brother. Surrounded by family and friends, she did squats with a PVC pipe, wearing a T-shirt that read "Kevin Ogar Strong."
"I did that for Kevin," she said.
Her brother, though, might never walk again. He was severely injured doing a move from that workout earlier this month.
Kevin Ogar, a former MU student who began his CrossFit training in Columbia, severely injured his spinal cord when a barbell fell on his neck during a competition. He's been unable to move from the waist down.
Saturday's fundraiser was intended to raise money for Kevin Ogar's medical bills. He is uninsured.
His friend Nate Bacott, a co-owner of CrossFit Fringe, helped organize the fundraiser. He'd hoped to raise $5,000 going into the event. By Saturday evening, they'd raised at least $6,048, Bacott said.
Friends, family and members of the CrossFit community packed the training center and crowded around the workout area to watch supporters doing Kevin Ogar's favorite moves.
"It's a little overwhelming how much support there is," said Matt Kitzi, a trainer at CrossFit Fringe.
CrossFit, an intense strength and conditioning program, has been criticized recently for creating an environment that forces people to go dangerously beyond their physical limits, according to previous Missourian reporting.
But those gathered at the fundraiser Saturday didn't blame CrossFit for Kevin Ogar's injury.
"It's kinda like getting in a car accident," said Rachel Marion, a CrossFit trainer in Jefferson City. "You do everything you can to prepare for it. There's things you can't control."
Megan Ogar said what happened to her brother was a freak catastrophe.
The injury occurred during the OC Throwdown competition in California on Jan. 12. Ogar was performing a snatch, a highly technical lift that Bacott compared to a golf swing: If one thing goes wrong, the whole move can be thrown off, he said.
Kevin Ogar had performed that move thousands of times, Bacott said. But this time, the bar fell on his back and severely injured his spinal cord.
Doctors told Megan Ogar that her brother's injury was inexplicable.
Even experienced weightlifters like Ogar can miss lifts, Bacott said. Accidents happen.
For example, an Olympic weightlifter named Matthias Steiner dropped a 432-pound barbell on his neck during the 2012 London Olympics yet walked away unharmed.
But the severity of Kevin Ogar's injuries is unlike anything Bacott has witnessed.
"It's one of the worst things I've heard of happening, in weightlifting or CrossFit," Bacott said of Ogar's injury.
On Saturday, participants raised barbells high above their heads, then dropped them to the mat, where they bounced with a clatter just inches from their feet. On the sidelines, people cheered them on.
No one seemed worried as they repeated the same move that left Kevin Ogar unable to walk.
"You gotta be able to trust your coaches," said Dave Danaher, who has trained at CrossFit Fringe for almost two years.
Erica Hopkins-Wadlow, who was selling official "Ogar Strong" T-shirts, said the coaches at Fringe stress good form and staying within your ability. Injuries are not as common as people think, she said.
But Kevin Ogar's CrossFit career is likely over.
Doctors told Megan Ogar and her family that it's unlikely her brother will walk again.
But the money raised Saturday will help ensure that Kevin Ogar is able to fund his recovery. In addition to the $6,000 raised at Saturday's event, more than $300,000 has been raised for Kevin Ogar through an online fundraising effort.
"He has high hopes," said his grandmother, Evelyn Darr. "He's gonna fight it. All we can do is pray for him."
Megan Ogar said she believes that CrossFit will continue to be a part of his life.
"I think that Kevin finds his purpose in helping people to live their best and healthiest lives," she said. "CrossFit is a big part of that."
Her brother knows the road ahead will be long and difficult, she said. But he "knows that he's not going to be on this road alone."
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Spectroscopy of Hydrothermal Reactions. Part XI: Infrared Absorptivity of CO2 and N2O in Water at Elevated Temperature and Pressure
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The temperature dependence of the infrared absorptivity of the asymmetric stretch of CO2 and N2O dissolved in H2O was determined at 300-600 K under 275 atm. These results are essential for using these species as internal calibrants of the rate of many hydrothermal reactions by infrared spectroscopy. The absorptivity (band area) for upsilon3 (CO2) at constant number density increases from 1.58 X 10 4 cm/mmol at 300 K to 2.68 X 10 4 cm/mmol at 600 K. The absorptivity of upsilon3 (N2O) is 8.57 X 10 3 cm/mmol at 300 K and 1.33 X 10 4 cm/mmol at 525 K. The absorptivity is suppressed in the presence of H2O by a factor of about 5 compared to results for the gas phase. The absorptivity increases, however, with increasing temperature in H2O solution, which is opposite the trend for the gas phase. The Lorentzian line shape in H2O solution provides a global relaxation time of 1 ps, which is more consistent with relaxation by vibrational energy transfer among associated molecules than by collisions or stochastic modulation by the surrounding H2O field.
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Honestly. I couldn't help myself. The resurgence of steampunk costuming controversy made me do it.
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My latest how-I-did-it post in the Steam Wench's Salon - the adventure of making a steampunk labcoat from a priest's cassock pattern (with virtually no pattern experience) and ending up with a duck cotton and leather steampunk worker's coat. The blog link is below.
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The latest post in my Salon, is a brief selection of Victorian resources (costume resource books, catalogue reproductions, and two social history texts) which can help, inspire, or simply entertain the steampunk and the Victorian recreationist alike.
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I have only used my new titanium spork for the lunches that I have packed for college. But knowing that I have that has saved at least 200 plastic forks or spoons or both so far this school year. I will use it camping once I have a chance and I have used one of the plastic sporks in the past and they were great and so useful. Next I am planning on buying one of their serving sporks.
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Indigenous artistic expression is an ever-changing process, in
search of universal themes rather than racial-based boundaries, writes
Sandra McLean. EYE-CATCHING art . . . left, Tracey
Moffatt, Untitled 2; right, Brook Andrew, Sexy and
dangerous. So obvious that he has taken over most of the Queensland Art Gallery to
emphasise that indigenous art is a fascinating hybrid of genres that has
gone well beyond the dot painting style characterised by Western and
Central Desert artists?
Well, Mundine admits that what's obvious to a person who has spent more
than 30 years working with indigenous art may not be as crystal-clear to
the general public. Or even to corporate Australia, which continues to
cling to painting, preferably the dotted variety by Aboriginal all-stars
such as Clifford Possum Tjapaltjarri or Rover Thomas, as their preferred
entry point to indigenous art.
But as Mundine shows us in the exhibition Blak Insights, this entry
point is fast turning into a revolving door.
Western Desert art and the work of Arnhem Land artists now sits easily
beside photography, the moving image, installation, text-based works and
more contemporary styles of painting.
And he doesn't hesitate to prove his point. A few steps into Blak
Insights and the gallery-goer is confronted by Vernon Ah Kee's text work
that is so unlike "traditional" indigenous art people may wonder why it's
in the exhibition.
If this is where your thought train is heading, make a brief stop at
Bangarra Dance Theatre, a wholly indigenous company, whose work
effortlessly strings together modern, Australian, indigenous and universal
themes into the one performance.
Much contemporary indigenous art strives for the same symphony of ideas
that have no geographical or racial boundaries. Take note of Tracey
Moffat's quote in the gallery: "Australian stories are very universal.
People don't think of the art as Australian."
Moffatt, who was born and raised in Brisbane and now lives between the
US and Australia, is a living example of this.
Back to Mundine's push for recognition of the diversity in black art.
There's Ah Kee's text piece Many Lies a world away from the
intricate, albeit familiar, story-based bark paintings of artists such as
Larrtjanga Ganambarr.
The materials they use are vastly different, as is the mood of the
work, but Mundine would argue they are done in the same spirit.
Ditto for painters Richard Bell, one of the brash new breed of
indigenous artists, and Western Desert artist Anmanari Brown, whose large
paintings naively revel in colour and shape.
Blak Insights is the logical extension of last year's groundbreaking
Story Place exhibition of Cape York artists. It is also a chance for the
gallery to show off its collection of indigenous art which ranges from
very early Papunya works by Anatjari Tjakamarra and Shorty Lungkarda
Tjungarrayi to the latest moving image work by photographer Destiny
Mundine, a respected freelance Aboriginal art consultant, has
accentuated the diversity in 21st-century indigenous art by giving each
school of art their own room in Blak Insights.
"We move from blue vein cheese to ice cream," he teases. "Every room is
very pungent and strong. Anyone with two brain cells can see that this
work is very different to that."
Different yes, but not divisive. Blak Insights is not about pitching
one kind of indigenous art against the other. It is not about dots versus
the moving image.
Although it is tempting to suggest this as Mundine has given artists
working in the uber contemporary medium of the moving image, such as
Deacon and Tracey Moffatt, pride of place.
Mundine argues that the desert painting movement is now more than 30
years old and it is only a natural progression for new and different kinds
of indigenous work to start having an impact.
"I am not discounting painting," he says. "But that is generally how
people talk about Aboriginal art. It is more than painting and this
exhibition is a strong demonstration of that.
"It repositions the centre of Aboriginal art as the moving image. I am
not saying that painting is dead – as you can see there is a lot of
painting in the show."
Mundine has nicknamed the first gallery "Brisbane" – just as he is
turning on its head the idea that Aboriginal art is solely dot painting,
he also is keen to dispel another myth that all good art comes from
outside Brisbane.
He cites key indigenous artists such as Moffat, Bell, Fiona Foley and
Gordon Bennett who are either from Brisbane or have chosen to live here.
While the first gallery includes works by rising stars such as Darren
Siwes and Brook Andrew, Moffat's work remains the strongest.
But don't dwell in this gallery as there is much more to see, down the
escalators past works by Richard Bell, Fiona Foley and Judy Watson. Keep
going into the next gallery which is home to Torres Strait Islander works
by artists such as Ken Thaiday, whose witty and complex constructions are
inspired by folklore and function.
The next room is home to Arnhem Land artists. Painting styles are based
on sacred ceremonial body designs called miny'tji.
As well as Larrtjanga Ganambarr's older bark paintings, there is new
work by Galuma Maymuru. There are exchange poles bound in string and bone
coffins used in rituals but made to be exhibited in a gallery.
Next are the fabled Central and Western Desert artists such as Emily
Kngwarrye, Clifford Possum, Abie Jangala and Minnie Pwerle.
"In a public sense everyone has been totally connected with art from
this area as being Aboriginal art," Mundine says. "So we start with the
beginning of this movement painted in the first years at Papunya in 1971."
Looking at Pwerle's painting, Women's Ceremony from the
Atnwengerrp, its freedom of colour and movement, leads one to think
out loud how amazingly abstract it looks.
Mundine remarks that there is a "big debate" going on about abstraction
in indigenous art. "The painting movement is moving into abstraction," he
"The point is that in abstraction you are not trying to represent
anything, whereas these people may not have the iconography but they are
intensely trying to represent something.
"The eternal question about abstraction is that: is it art or doodling?
Is it great art because it was doodled by a very famous person?"
So what's the answer?
"It's great art," says Mundine.
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this series of articles we have covered AOL.com, Yahoo.com,
MSN.com, and last week we discussed ODP. All of the sites above
are portals and directories, so this week we will try to cap
off the portals by taking a look at another marketing leading
portal, Lycos.com. We will continue the series by taking a look
at what the status of the portal and search engine is, what
results they display, how clean and relevant they are, how to
get your site listed and rank in Lycos, and what it will cost
you. Lycos came
online in 1994 as a search engine, and has since acquired HotBot,
Raging Bull, Tripod, Wired, as well as others. Lycos has changed
from a search engine to more of a Yahoo! style directory. The
Lycos.com portal includes a news, shopping, search, directory,
personalized, and topics section, just as Yahoo! does. It attempts
to offer it's users enough content and options to keep them
at the site for extended periods of time. Enough about the portal,
let's get to the search results. There have
been changes to the way Lycos runs it search engine lately.
The web site submission and payment options have changed as
well, but we will discuss that later in the article. Lycos search
results resemble many that we have looked at in the past. The
current results that are displayed are dependant upon the search
that is performed, just as with the past portals, but you can
expect to see Overture results, Lycos's own paid results, and
results from Fast/AllTheWeb.com. Take a look
at this search for "Chevy",
you will notice that all of the results that we mentioned above
are displayed. The first results, after the huge banner that
displays at the top from DoubleClick, are 3 results from Overture
for the given search term, labeled "sponsored listings". The
next listings that are displayed are from the Lycos network,
and include a small thumbnail and a few links to sites within
the Lycos network. After these paid results are the real search
results that are displayed from the Fast/AllTheWeb database
of web sites. Each web site listing has a "Fast Forward" link
next to it that when clicked opens up an additional browser
window that displays search results in a condensed format. At
the bottom of the search results page there are links to search
results for the keyword or keyword phrase on other search engines,
as well as a link titled "web directory". When this link is
clicked it displays results from the Open Directory Project,
which Lycos uses for its directory of web sites. Just as
with AOL.com and MSN.com, these results are only for the general
search terms. When a search term is refined more, the search
results become less cluttered with paid listings and display
more of the actual search results from Fast/AllTheWeb. When
we perform a search for "used
chevy" on Lycos, the Overture paid listings and Lycos network
listings are no longer displayed. At the bottom of the search
results page the links to results on other search engines remains,
including the "web directory" link that takes you to the Open
Directory Project results. You may
or may not notice that there are some problems with the Lycos
search results. The Lycos search engine can be temperamental
at times. At some times you will perform a search and Lycos
will report that there are no results for the search term. If
you perform this search again, or capitalize the search phrase,
the results will be displayed. Other times when digging into
the third and fourth search results pages and further, Lycos
will again display that there are no results for the search
term and ask the user to refine the search. This does not happen
all the time, and many users have most likely never experienced
this, but this glitch does occur. How does
one go about having their site appear in Lycos search results?
While most of the submission and listings are paid, not all
of them are paid listings. To have
your web site appear as a "sponsored listing" in Lycos, you
will have to bid on the keyword or keyword phrase in Overture
and pay enough per click to have the site place in the top 3.
Fast and Lycos have formed Fast Partner Site and Lycos In Site
Search, a paid spidering program with two different options
for subscribers.The
two options are Lycos InSite Pro and Lycos InSite Select. The premier
option, Lycos InSite Pro, features web site submission, paid
spidering, and a Lycos hosted site search. The Lycos InSite
Pro option allows for guaranteed inclusion within 48 hours of
web site submission, as well as a complete web site refresh
every 48 hours. The hosted site search is claimed to be 99%
reliable, with customizable results pages, personalized web
site submission reports, and access to "Search Services Central",
where you can view billing, make changes, and more. As of April
10th, 2002, Lycos is listing the price for this service as $189.00
a month for pages 1-250, and $279.00 for pages 251-500. This
is being listed as a "Limited Time Introductory Rate". The second
option that is offered is Lycos InSite Select. This submission
option features guaranteed inclusion in the Lycos database within
48 hours of web site submission, as well as a full web site
refresh every 48 hours. In essence, the only difference between
Lycos InSite Select and Lycos InSite Pro is that the latter
has the hosted site search feature. As of April 10th, 2002,
the price for Lycos InSite Select is $18.00 for an annual membership
and $12.00 annually per URL. This is also listed as a "Limited
Time Introductory Rate". Lycos may
look like another portal that has totally gone paid spidering
and submission, but this is not entirely true. Lycos.com does
still offer a free web site submission option, but the reliability
of this option is questionable. Through the free submission
option Lycos offers the submission of one web page, and claims
that inclusion into the database will take from 4 to 6 weeks.
Lycos covers its own interest by stating that inclusion into
the database is not guaranteed, which makes it easier for them
to deny a web site and make the paid submission and spidering
mandatory. How does
this affect a search engine optimization campaign? The Internet
industry is definitely turning commercialized and this effect
is seen in almost every search engine, portal, and directory
on the Internet. Having your site listed as a "sponsored listing"
is relative to the keyword search and the bid amount at Overture,
but the amount of money spent on an Overture account can add
up quickly. The Lycos paid spidering and submission programs
will cost you depending on which program you subscribe to. The
prices for Lycos InSite Select, the more affordable option,
and Lycos InSite Pro are both given above. Lycos does still
offer free web page submission, but as we stated before, this
option is not entirely reliable. This means that to rank well
in Lycos, you can roll the dice and submit your web page for
free, or you can open your wallet and give your hard earned
cash to Lycos. Having your web site listed in the Lycos directory
is still free though, and will remain so for a long time I suspect.
Submission to the Open Directory Project is free, but inclusion
times are notorious for being very long as the editors are all
working on a volunteer basis. Ranking
within the Lycos search engine results depends on a number of
different optimization variables. As Lycos uses the Fast/AllTheWeb
search results, make sure that your website complies with
the Fast/AllTheWeb algorithm. One thing to remember when optimizing
is that Fast/AllTheWeb uses Open Directory Project directory
results within their algorithm. Other variables that are used
are Title tags, link popularity, keyword density, and the other
basics of optimization. While Lycos
doesn't command the highest percent of Internet users, they
do retain a decent user base, and they offer a free submission
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The sequel is out, well it's sort of a sequel as it's a totally new Plants vs Zombies and it's called Garden Warfare and it's out today for Xbox One and Xbox 360. I'm waiting for the PC version which ahs no announcement date, it just says it will be available at a later date. Official PR below for you..
PopCap Games, a division of Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA), today released Plants vs. Zombies™ Garden Warfare, a best-in-class multiplayer shooter that combines the power of the Frostbite™ 3 engine with the fresh humor, wild action and vibrant landscapes of the incredibly popular Plants vs. Zombies series. Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare lets players choose a side and wage all-out war on their plant or zombie enemies in a variety of gameplay modes and with a jaw-dropping arsenal of outrageous weapons.
"Creating a shooter based on the Plants vs. Zombies franchise was something few people would have ever expected, but we think the real surprise will come when fans get their hands-on the game," said Brian Lindley, Producer onPlants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare. "While it's a totally different genre for the series, Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare is every bit as accessible as the original game and offers the same level of depth, strategy and insane fun fans expect from the Plants vs. Zombies universe."
Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare features adored favorites in the series, such as the Peashooter and Sunflower, along with a new cast of characters including Ice Cactus, Hot Rod Chomper and all the Zombies players can get their hands on. Players can jump into three distinct modes including two 12 vs. 12 competitive multiplayer modes called "Garden & Graveyards" and "Team Vanquish," or a four-player co-operative mode called "Garden Ops." An amazingly deep set of customization options gives players an opportunity to personalize plants and zombies with fun costumes, items, hats and more, some of which give all-new abilities to each of the characters.
Two additional modes will be available exclusively on Xbox® One, the all-in-one games and entertainment system from Microsoft. The first allows for local cooperative split screen so players can team up with a friend on the couch, and the second is Boss Mode which allows for a third friend to join via a SmartGlass device to support their teams with a top-down view of the battlefield from where they can drop health, artillery strikes and more. Boss mode is also available on Kinect for a full screen experience.
Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare is now available for the Xbox One and the Xbox 360 videogame and entertainment systems in North America. A digital version of the game can be downloaded for Xbox One or Xbox 360. A PC version will be available at a later date. Join the Plants vs. ZombiesGarden Warfare community at https://www.facebook.com/GardenWarfarePvZ and follow us on Twitter @PlantsvsZombies. For information about Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare visit http://www.popcap.com/plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare.


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Activity 3: Grades 5-8 Frontiers Pop- Quiz
1) What is a placebo?
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Maggie Gyllenhaal and Sheryl Crow have united to help to expose human rights violations in the world, via video and digital media.
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I present an on-going work on extraction of transcription regulation events from text by using an ontology which plays a central role in integrating information from different sources. The events of transcription regulation are expressed in the literature with a high degree of compositeness. They have elements such as event types, participants, and attributes. These elements are associated with different keywords, which should be merged into a shared structure. I use the Gene Regulation Ontology (GRO) for the integration purpose. It contains not only biological concepts related to transcription regulation, but also inference rules for deduction of specific event types and attributes from semantics of sentences. It is also used to represent the semantics of linguistic patterns that are used to identify the semantics of sentences. The ontology provides the formality which is required for the extraction of specific and well-defined events as those of transcription regulation.
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title = {Ontology-based Extraction of Transcription Regulation Events},
booktitle = {Ontologies and Text Mining for Life Sciences : Current Status and Future Perspectives},
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OCALA - Two Marion County corrections officers faced their first day in court today after they were charged with beating a prisoner. The two guards are now on the other side of the law. Both are being charged with simple battery and can face up to a year in prison and a hefty fine.
A jury of four women and four men were selected to decide the fate of two Marion County guards who allegedly beat an inmate. The beating described as unjustifiable and excessive by another guard who witnessed the event.
"He told me he was going to kick my ass," Douglas Kizzart claims these are the words Marion County officer Dustin Lay told him, as he and another officer at the jail Richard smith beat him in the medical pod, where suicide watch inmates are housed.
According to Janet lucky, a guard at the jail, the inmate's head was slammed into the glass by officer smith. A significant slam she recalls. "Very hard... Hard enough that I thought the inmate's skull was cracked. It was hard, very hard," Lucky said.
The attack happened over a clogged cell toilet. While Kizzart says the accident wasn't his fault, the defense team claims he wasn't cooperating. According to officer Lucky says Kizzart didn't show any signs of aggression towards the guards despite being punched violently in the ribs.
Lucky said, "He was actually bracing himself trying to brace himself from getting punched. Was he saying anything? Yes. What was the inmate saying at that point? What did I do? What did I do?"
Prior to the attack, officer Lucky says she noticed officer lay looked angry and that he even told her, quote-unquote 'I just wanted to use spray on someone,' pepper spray that is. "The chemical spray we use as guards, pepper spray. And what do you think he meant by that? He was very angered," Lucky said.
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Big Red - Mr Jones
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- Date
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- 3.97 / 5.00
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Just another story. I spent a decent time trying to mix/master this song. It's still not that good, but atleast I'm trying now! Kudos to some amazing music by YunVeroz: Serial (remove the space) http://www.newgrounds.com /audio/listen/195819
Edit: Fooled around with some volumes. The background vocals were aggravating me too... Hope they're slightly better now!
EditEdit: Word, top 'o the charts! Thanks fellas (it's NG, I know you're all fellas)! My comp crashed and I've lost the original recording of this so I can't make changes, but I do appreciate all feedback and will use it on future productions. Make sure you check out YunVeroz if you like this, he's got loads of quality stuff, it's mindboggling.
My man Jones came from a broken home,
At the age of fifteen he was living all alone,
Had to eat to survive so he stole all the time,
From the young and the old and the deaf and the blind,
And the cops didn't find it funny,
Poor dummy gotta make your own money,
If you wanna stop running,
But he kept on gunnin,
He started havin fun,
And pretty soon he was locked in cell 21.
Didn't stay long cause he was only a kid,
But Jones hadn't learnt his lesson from the time that he did,
Tried to fit in with the cool kids, messin up his school grades,
Only thing he wanted was respect like the movies,
But cinemas not the best parental figure,
And his mind needed guidance from somebody who had been there,
Try to teach him morals stead of screamin with the chorus of,
Not our problem, someone deal with him for us,
Poor us, we got problems of our own.
So, alone Mr Jones roamed homes,
Slept beneath the stars on the street,
Where the cars all beep,
Cause they all got somewhere to go,
Jones, hated laughs cause he wasn't included,
Wouldn't talk shit cause he couldn't refute it,
Learned to blend in, tried to take as he please,
Wasn't ever gonna beg for money down on his knees,
Cause he wasn't a bum.
But then again a bum he would become,
Jones never finished school and he slept in a slum,
Now you're probably expecting some kind of a break,
Jones'll find a mistake in his mis-woven fate,
But no, he never found his only golden ticket,
Never came around pity for a lonely sick kid,
In fact it's almost like he never existed,
He died under a bridge and no one missed him.
And the cars still beeped, and the people still shook,
Took two weeks to find him cause nobody looked,
Jones was buried in a cemetery, barely remembered,
In a world of people just as dead as him.
Rated 5 / 5 stars
loved the lyrics
Good job with this one here bro, really enjoyed listening to it. Though I really loved the lyrics here, they flowed together great and made sense, also were sung greatly by a great hip-hop lyricist, good job with that. The beat was good here as well, played a major roll in the melody as with any respected hip-hop song. The melody was good as well, very catchy/ Excellent work here man, 5/5 from me, keep up the good work! :D
The beat was more than good. It godly. Like Shiva. Merci!
Rated 4.5 / 5 stars
I like it.
I like the beat a lot... And I like how you included the lyrics. I like your voice, and yeah I like this song, lol. :]
'sank yoo sir cloud!
Rated 2.5 / 5 stars
Lyrics are fine I guess...
The 5/10 is only for the lyrics. I don't like rap because it's all one repeating beat and the same profane lyrics (99% of the time). But this didn't have horrible morals, and there was only one profanity, so I didn't really have a problem with it. Still, this doesn't deserve to be at the top; on the list, sure, but not on top.
Rated 4 / 5 stars
I don't like rap songs...
but this was a nice one. the story was kind of sad, but still awesome
So you do like rap songs!
Rated 5 / 5 stars
poor Jones
Eminem rap style
really like it
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Why can't Saiyans like Raditz, Nappa, Turles, Paragus, King Vegeta, Bardock's crew and Bardock can't go super saiyan? Since they are full blooded saiyans shouldn't they have the ability to reach super saiyan by having strong emotions and high power levels reaching a certain breaking point. Could the reason be that they weren't able to reach super saiyan because they did not live very long through out the Dragonball Z series and were killed very quickly not giving them the chance to be spared so they can get stronger and be able to go super saiyan.
- The in-universe explanation is that unlike Goku who becomes a Super Saiyan in response to his enormous need to stop Frieza, most of the characters you name are on Frieza's side (even if it's because he has enslaved them), and thus are supported by the empire of the most powerful being in the universe (at the time). Goku became a Super Saiyan because he was at a disadvantage against Frieza's true power, and was the only man who could be depended on to defeat Frieza. As for Paragus, he reasons in The Legendary Super Saiyan that he's indirectly become the most powerful being because of the control he has over his son.
- The rational explanation is that half of these characters were slain before the Super Saiyan transformation was written into the series (Turles included, since The Tree of Might was released before the Frieza Saga). Storm talk – projects 15:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Also because you have to have a pure heart to become a super saiyan, etc.
Saiyans in space
This has been removed a few times, but it does appear to be true that Saiyans can survive in space without air. In all known instances where Saiyans were exposed to the vacuum of space, there were no adverse effects:
- Goku: Took Monster Carrot to the moon.
- Vegeta and Nappa: Appeared outside of their Saiyan spacecrafts while Vegeta destroyed Arlia.
- Bardock: Flew to Frieza's ship (in orbit of Planet Vegeta).
- Broly: Survived in space after New Vegeta's destruction.
Any reason why we shouldn't make a note of this? Even if we dismiss it as a fairly large plot hole, it still seems worthy of mention, perhaps in trivia? -- talk contr 09:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- There are a number of theories that can explain the first three examples, such as Vegeta and Bardock being within the limits of the planets' atmospheres. However, theories are nothing more than speculation. Thus, they are irrelevant. The only example that can be explained without the use of such theories is Broly. Broly processes the ability to create a barrier of ki that protects him from such environments.
- Now as for the possibility of a Saiyan's Self-sustaining capabilities in space, I don't recall the Daizenshuu making any note or acknowledgment regarding this. In fact, by any argument over the factuality of the trait, if Saiyan's did have such ability, why didn't the race survive the destruction of their planet in space? You see? Just another theory.
- There are numerous things left unexplained in Dragon Ball, things that can only be explained through theories. However, noting the theories as fact rather than theory would compromise this Wikia. If a theory can be proven as fact by an authorized source, then let it be recorded as fact. If not, then let it be recorded as theory. -- bulletproof 09:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- The theory about being in the atmosphere of a planet doesn't necessarily apply to all of the first three, as Goku used his Power Pole to climb between the Earth and the Moon. The atmosphere of the Earth ends long before the Moon, and Goku was climbing the distance while carrying three people. This was done for comedic value obviously (in reference to "The Rabbit on the Moon" fairy tale), and Goku was back on Earth by the next panel so it shouldn't be taken too seriously, but at the same time it's canon and has never been outright contradicted. Everybody (including himself) just assumed Goku couldn't breathe in outer space, so Dr. Brief supplied him with the shuttle for Namek and the emergency space suits. It's as if Goku completely forgot about traveling to the moon in Dragon Ball, which some could argue is because of the loads of adventures he would have afterward. In my opinion Toriyama just forgot about that scene when he was writing the Namek arc, but as far as verifiability goes, this is an extremely debatable topic. Storm talk – projects 17:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- Good note Nonoitall [1]-- bulletproof 18:20, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
- There was also the flashback to Broly's childhood where he was seen flying amongst an Asteroid field [that couldn't be near an atmosphere.]. Also, in regards to the explainations towards Bardock being within the limits of the Atmosphere, that can't be it since he was high above the atmosphere. There's no way a planet's atmosphere extends beyond the planet itself. As for why the Saiyans didn't seem to survive the explosion of Vegeta, seeing how one of the scenes in the Bardock special showed some of the saiyans engulfed in a pillar of flames, it's probably due to the fact that almost all of them were incinerated by the blasts. The only characters at that time who would even STAND a chance in surviving an explosion like that would be King Vegeta, Bardock, and Broly. Vegeta was killed by Frieza by a blow to the chin, so he's out, Bardock was already weakened from the battle against Dodoria [hence why he was having diffculty with stairs and collapsed in the pub where he made a failed effort to try and warn the Saiyans], and besides which, he was disintegrated by the Death Ball. As for Broly, well, the result's obvious. Ironically, he was the only one of the three characters with power levels of 10,000 to actually survive the explosion.
- Oh right, I had forgotten about the scene in Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan where Broly was out of control in the asteroid field and he attacked Paragus. So really, that makes Broly and Paragus able to breathe in outer space (there's always the possibility that they weren't in an asteroid field, but that Broly had just destroyed a planet; but even then, no atmosphere would exist around planet debris). So really:
- Goku: Climbs to the moon on his Power Pole with Monster Carrot and the two Rabbit Mobsters.
- Vegeta: Stands on his Saiyan Pod in outer space, as he destroys Arlia.
- Nappa: Stands on his Saiyan Pod in outer space, as Vegeta destroys Arlia.
- Bardock: Flies into orbit to confront Frieza.
- Broly: Flies frenziedly amongst space debris with Paragus.
- Paragus: Flies amongst space debris trying to calm Broly's nerves.
- In short, every Saiyan who has ever been exposed to outer space (and there are as many in Toriyama's original work as there are in Toei's films, for those who are picky about canonicity) has been completely unaffected. Storm talk – projects 22:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- movies are not cannon. broly has a barrier, perminently around him(like Super 17), the only in series examples are goku, which can be written off as a joke, like a lot of DB, and vegeta and nappa are in the influence of saiyan spacepods, which work even open(read the space pod page)
I personally think Toriyama didn't care and just did everything he did for coolness's sake. However it is NOT speculation to assume that Bardock, Vegeta, and Nappa were within the limits of the planets atmosphere when they were in space as they communicated verbally, which (regardless of ability to "breath" in space) is impossible without some form of atmosphere. As for Bardock not being within the planet's atmosphere do not forget that planet Vegeta has ten times the gravity of Earth, and thus would be capable of sustaining a larger atmosphere. There is also the very high "Superman" factor. Superman can't breath in space (which makes since because it is impossible to actually 'breath' in a vacuum as there is nothing to breath), but he can survive in the vacuum for extended periods of time. Given Saiyan's other abilities and general fortitude it is very likely that they merely survive in space rather than being able to breath in it, like a human could survive under water for a few minutes. Has any Saiyan ever been shown in space surviving in space more than momentarily? No. Vegeta and Nappa only stood outside momentarily(even though they could not have possibly been in a true vacuum), Bardock was only outside for mere moments (even though, again, there must have been some kind of atmosphere), Brolly is Brolly and breaks rules, but even when he was in space it was only still shots giving no indication as to how long they had been out there, and the same applies to Paragus. It is speculation to say that they can breath in space as there is in fact NO evidence to support this. What it should say is that Saiyans have been shown to survive unprotected in space (only twice actually in Brolly and Goku with Master Carrot), and other times where they APPEAR to survive in space when they were actually in some sort of atmosphere.
Abridged version, you can't breath in a vacuum by definition of a vacuum, you can't talk in it either, so therefore every single instance of them being in space minus Brolly and Goku with the Carrot guy occured in some sort of atmosphere. The Master Carrot event was clearly for giggles. According to Dragonball a Great Ape is as big as a huge freaking castle, so it really shouldn't be considered for information on Saiyans to begin with. Also the fact that the people in the show who would know the most about Saiyans clearly state that Saiyans can't survive in space is pretty damning to any counter-argument. Adroa 23:48, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, Bardock was much farther than that, and I don't think that a planet with ten times as much gravity would have an atmosphere that would extend halfway towards the central star in that system, not without being fried that is. Not to mention that the atmosphere's directly connected to the planet, so if Vegeta and Nappa were indeed in the atmosphere in some sort, they'd receive severe injuries when blowing Arlia up (and it was implied that Vegeta and Nappa usually blow up planets, even discounting Arlia), and Vegeta would be crazy to even try to blow up the Earth, seeing how, if he blew it up, he'd also, if not kill himself, then at least receive severe injuries (since when a Planet blows, the atmosphere ignites as well). Also, for the characters you cited, King Kai has also shown himself to know very little about the quadrant he's ruling, making his so-called omniscience questionable (yes, he's supposed to be omniscient, at least according to Gregory). Heck, at one point, he actually thought that Planet Namek blew up when it still only had five minutes left, not to mention not knowing that Nameks don't need water, and believing Frieza to be dead twice (three times counting the miscalculation of Planet Namek's immediate fate). Heck, he didn't even know Goku survived/escaped the explosion until AFTER Porunga told them. Frieza also bore witness to Bardock's last stand, so he was either having memory problems (doubtful, since he did recall it when he first met Goku, both in the Anime and the Manga), he was being extremely stupid (arrogant maybe, but not stupid), or he was trying to lower Goku's morale (most likely. After all, it is a common enemy tactic to at times falsify the situation in order to lower morale.). As for Broly and Paragus, they were in an Asteroid Field (or at least, it resembled an Asteroid field), and I doubt an atmosphere could exist in that area. Even if Goku's placing Monster Carrot was supposed to be for giggles, that still proved that he was more than capable of breathing in space (the Moon has a weak atmosphere, and the area between the Moon and the Earth's atmosphere is deep space (non-existant of atmosphere, in other words.). Weedle McHairybug 02:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Please try and remember that you are trying to apply our world physics to an anime universe created by a guy who has tenuous grasp on physics at best. The Dragonball Universe CLEARLY does not follow our physics (i.e. smaller planets have higher gravity or if your kung fu is good enough you can fly). I mean you're applying some definitions of atmosphere and not others. For example you assume it will ignite upon planet destruction OR only be very close the planet but that it is not necessary in order for sound to travel, when in EVERY last case mentioned of a saiyan breathing in space someone was also talking, not communicating telepathically, not sign language, not giant comical signs with sing words like "ouch", "oh crap" and "die saiyan scum" but talking. Bottom line Dragonball atmosphere DOES NOT equal our atmosphere and they can not be thought of as the same thing. Hell for all we know their meaning of "atmosphere" could be made up of happy thoughts of the bunny-puppy hybrids that inhabit the core of any life-supporting planet. So whether it makes sense to you or not, it is speculation to go against what the actual series says; and what the series says is: Saiyans cannot breath in space. End of story, that is all.Adroa 05:11, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
- What my point is is that it should be mentioned as part of their physiology, but a trivia entry should mention the ginormous plotholes this single fact creates.Adroa 05:15, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
Saiyan Families
I noticed in the battle with Tien and Yamcha Versus Shorty and Scareface, that when they witness Yamcha charging a spirit ball, how long it took. One of the Saiyans makes a remark that "his grandmother can gather energy faster than him (Yamcha)". The article says that Saiyans to not bond with family, as they are put on missions.But I would imagine to know that about his "grandmother", he would have to at least be with her from time to time and see her fight. If not, it must have some other relevance for he mentioned a family member.
However, the remark he made could just be a mere insult with no meaning.
the first picture in this article is kinda blury and should be replaced with a diff pic or a better quality clone of it.Ssj gogeta vs. broly 22:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- feel free finding a better picture.. Dyas 23:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Saiyan homeworld
In Dragon Ball Z, it is said that both the Saiyans and Tuffles both originated on planet Vegeta and the Tuffles controlled the better half. In fact, the existence of the Tuffles at all is only in anime filler (which is generally considered non-canonical). I think this should be considered the real history since many don't consider DBGT canonical for its many plot holes and inconsistencies.
My question is,where did they live before King vegeta Was crowned king of the saiyan race? --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 07:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Before the Tuffle-Saiyan War was won by King Vegeta the Saiyans lived on planet Tuffle, they always lived on planet Tuffle, until it was destroyed by Frieza. The Planet was merely re-named after King Vegeta's victory Arieus 00:08, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
- That is just speculation you cannot say that the saiyans originated on planet tuffle because we do not know that for a fact it is your opinion that there was no other original saiyan homeworld and it is my opinion that there was an original so this question simply cannot be answered there is just too much speculation we have 2 simply agree to disagree
VEGETATheLegendarySuperSayian18:57, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
- correction to this article:
- The Planet Vegeta was called Planet Plant not Planet Tuffle! And the Tuffles existed in the Dragonball Z timeline under the Lost OVA "The Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" which is being Remade for Raging Blast 2
- doesn't king kai explain that the tuffles and saiyans come from the same planet when he is telling goku of the siayans when goku first trains with king kai.
Saiyans are Human?
Who's to say Humans aren't Saiyan? Maybe their just related, with a common ancestor? T'Lani 11:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Erm...why would they be related? Because they look similar? And besides, how would this be possible, the distance between Planet Vegeta and Earth was kinda big...Dyas 11:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Various other shows have multiple seperate species growing on seperate worlds that were 'seeded' by a much older, extinct race. That's the sorta thing I meant, both races having a common ancestor that 'seeded' Earth and whatever world the Saiyans supposedly originally came from (which couldn't be Earth because they lacked space travel prior to DBZ)...makes more sense than saying they are the same race that, by some freak coincidence, happen to exist on 2 worlds at the same time. T'Lani 15:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Plus you cannot forget that there may have really been an original saiyan homeworld before Planet Vegeta so that original planet may have been very close to Planet Earth this is just speculation but its still a point to look at
VEGETATheLegendarySuperSayian18:59, August 9, 2010 (UTC) - irregardless,that is pure speculation,and we can't put speculation into articles.Brolyislegendary 21:25, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Rediculous information
I'm almost positive that the majority of this article is made up bs. I mean, there's info about 300 year old Saiyans, which were NEVER seen in the manga or Anime, nor was it ever described what would happen to a Saiyan during advanced age. Also, there's info about their gestation period, which has, to my knowledge, never been explained in either the Daizenshuus, or by Toriyama himself.
Personally, i think someone's got an overactive imagination, & it's ruining the article. This info needs to either have sources, or be removed. Malikarcanum 14:39, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
Picture of Saiyan Group
I'd like to provide some links to images of Groups of Saiyans for that info box at the bottom; one of them should be the original one in a -hopefully- better resolution ;-) The version currently used looks kinda blurry...
Vegeccolo 07:07, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
red,broken links don't help anyone.Brolyislegendary 22:18, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
Revival and limbs
when tien died fighting nappa he regained his lost arm upon death yet none of the saiyans regain their tails when they die. should this be out down as trivia or a plot hole? Oni Dark Link 17:37, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
Saiyan Eye Color
There was, in fact, another of Saiyan blood to have a different eye color. Goku Jr. has dark blue eyes, clearly shown several different times in his special, and the last episode of Gt. I'm going to go ahead and change it. Adroa 09:28, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Fasha also seems to have dark purple eyes (at least on that particular screenshot) If it's true, this somehow would contradict Vegeta's claim that fully-blooded Saiyans always are black-irised...
vegeta doesn't say anything about fully-blooded Saiyans aalways having black irises.
he says saiyans always have black hair. and that their hair doesn't change from birth.
Vegeccolo 09:47, December 4, 2009 (UTC)However, we must take into note that the refered GT episode/movie and the movie/flashback were Fasha appeared, it's only in the anime canon, even though that the Bardock TV Special is, in my opinion, something that fits perfectly well in the manga canon. Vegeta - San Talk Contrib 21:22, December 4, 2009 (UTC)
Don't wanna just make an edit out of nowhere here, but..
The pronunciation bit as we have it now is wrong. The original pronunciation IS "as it's spelled". ai goes ai. This "si-yan/say-an" business shows someone with no knowledge of phonetics whatsoever. It should say "for the US version, saiya-jin is translated as "saiyan", pronounced like 'seiyan', but still spelled saiyan on title cards, etc."
It's just similar to how, in the old dub (and a few lines in the new dub too, careful as they were), Kaiou-ken was pronounced as keiou-ken (somehow missing the king kai connection). Someone on the localization team thinks ai is pronounced ei, simple as that.
- It has been changed a little now. The pronounciations are closer to the reality now, but there is always room for more information if you have it. Also, in the future, feel free to make such an edit right away as long as you have an explanation. Worst case scenario in that is that it gets reverted initially, and you have to explain on some user's talk page as well. --==> DragonBall.Z GT Goku Talk Contributions. 03:08, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
About the pronunctiation..
Should we make note of some of the Recent Japanese material pronouncing Saiyan the way that it's pronounced in the English dubs? IE: Saiyan Blood [2] I think it's interesting enough to note somewhere. Supersaiyanbatman 08:03, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
i believe the actual literal translation is Saiya and/or Saiyan wend talking more than one individual ,remember the japanese add Jin on nationality or ethic ,like they call us Americans as Amerikajins take out the jin and end up as amerika add the n and end up as amerikan.--Linkdarkside 00:07, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
Head wounds
Is it possible saiyans minds are fragile during childhood? Particularly when they're babies, I noticed when Raditz first comes to Earth and realizes Kakarot(Goku) had become good and was now a protector of Earth and the humans he asked him if he suffered any head injuries while he was a child without knowing anything of Goku's past (After he left Planet Vegeta) I was thinking that head injuries and memory loss is common umong Saiyan children? This could be a reason why they are kept in those pods and monitered by doctors as infants. It could be that their head bones are very strong and durable, but their brains are fragile for quite awhile after birth, meaning any drop could injure a saiyans brain but a large drop (like the one Goku had) could critically injure a child, often erasing its memory and completly altering its personality, as in Goku's case Chris-the-killer 05:57, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
- A drop like Goku's would kill a normal human baby, so Goku only getting amnesia isn't surprising at all. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:29, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
That is why I was wondering if Saiyan would have stronger skulls but possibly just as fragile or even more fragile braints. A fall like that would crush a normal babys skull, even adult human's skull would be crushed. But Raditz seems aware that a head injury could of made Goku the way he was, therefore I was thinking amnesia due to head injuries were common umong Saiyan infants, this would also explain why they have to be in pods in the first few days after birth. Chris-the-killer 06:55, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not really seeing how this is different than a human anatomy, other than being more resistant to injury. If a human baby was hit on the head very hard, but not quite enough to fracture it's skull, brain damage would be very likely. Likewise, if a friend of mine acted like he didn't know me and had no memory of anything that he should have, I would assume he had amnesia. Finally, all hospitals keep babies in special areas for a period of time after birth for check-up. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 07:19, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
just a thought but the pods the saiyan babies are put in could be learning devices. coz raddits says "have you forgotten everything" to goku its like how chi chi gets gohan that device that allows him to learn in his sleep.
why werent they revived after they wished back everyone killed by Frieza and his men?
- Well, for one thing, the wish that required that everyone killed by Frieza and his henchmen (either directly or indirectly) be revived was granted by the Earth Dragon Balls, which only revive people who have died within a year. Frieza's annihilation of Planet Vegeta happened almost 30 years prior to that wish, so obviously they couldn't be revived. Weedle McHairybug 18:21, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
Age of Saiyans
Since the age of Saiyans are slowed compared to humans and Pan hits 100 and still seems to be going strong, wouldn't it be logical to deduce that saiyans live twice as long as humans? Figure Vegeta was 55 by the end of GT so when Pan is 100 that would make him 150 which would make sense for him to have died. Anyone else think that is logical?
Sorry,but that is speculation,and we can't add that per wiki policy.Brolyislegendary 21:22, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
vegeta says saiyans keep their youthfull bodies so they can fight for long no indication of a longer life span than humans.
Hair colour
I vaguely remember that in the manga, when he first met Future Trunks, Vegeta states that all saiyans have black hair, which was one of the reasons he didn't believe that Trunks was a Saiyan. Can anyone confirm? 184.108.40.206 08:42, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly not true in the anime, don't know about manga... no colors and all. I guess someone will have to look for that statement. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:14, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Ah! found it! Although it seems that some of the anime-only saiyans actually have non-black hair.. What does this mean? 220.127.116.11 13:22, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, his actual wording is, "Saiyajins should all have black hair." This may just be Vegeta saying that purple hair is silly. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 15:15, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, if that sentence was considered just by itself, that may be right. But I think that interpertation is out of context here. Since he is talking about how Trunks couldnt be a saiyan in the previous frame, I think my conclusion was more logical. And if he thinks purple hair is silly, I think he would've just said "Your purple hair is stupid" or at least "Everyone should all have black hair" instead of just "Saiyajin", That would make more sense.184.108.40.206 08:17, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
Everyone should have black hair? Nah, I can't see him saying that rather than all Saiyans. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 13:37, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
- Here's another translation proving I'm right link. In this version Vegeta didn't say "should". 188.8.131.52 08:51, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
All it proves is that some translations are wrong, otherwise they would not say things with different meanings. The official Viz translation is what we go by. An official Japanese translation would be good too, but certainly not a fansub. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:10, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
- So for now, we only know that Vegeta might have implied that all Saiyans have black hair. I guess to delve deeper, we would need an official Japanese translation, or the original and someone that knows a lot of Japanese. In any event, even if that is confirmed, it is clear that the anime ignored that line. Though if we could confirm the original Japanese text, that should go in the article, noting it was only stated in the manga.--Sega381 04:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
Hmm actually I think what happens here is that the words in the first translation can be understood in two ways (as you pointed out), but the second can only be understood in only one way. So, assuming that both translations are reasonably accurate, we can infer that the first translation meant the same as the second translation, i.e "Saiyans have black hair". Added to these two translations is the translation, whatever it was, that I read oh-so-long-ago when I first read it. However, to be sure, we need someone who understands Japanese to interpret the original text. I unfortunately don't speak Japanese. 188.8.131.52 15:05, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
- We can also assume that they are both reasonably accurate, thus the second meant the same as the first, i.e. "Saiyajins should all have black hair." Clearly assuming anything is not a valid line of reasoning, and the only way to be sure is direct translations. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 18:47, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
- If it could help, in the french version he says saiyans all have black hair. But he could be bluffing seeing his face when he says this and knowing him he wouldn't admit he's wrong about Trunks being a Saiyan. Jeangabin666 19:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
Clearly not. Don't you see? The second translation cannot be interpreted as Vegeta commenting that Trunks' purple hair is ridiculous. It's clearly a statement about a genetic traits of Saiyans (Of course, Trunks was only half-saiyan). So assuming they're both accurate, they must mean the same thing. And that same thing cannot be this (because of the above reason), so it must be the other one. On a more general note, all arguments must assume some things, otherwise there would be nothing to base that argument on. So I believe making some assumption is a valid line of reasoning. Without it you have no foundation upon which to build knowledge. You could attack the assumptions and hence prove that the argument which was derived from them is invalid, of course. There is nothing stopping you to do that. 18.104.22.168 09:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
- On this site, we do not make assumptions, we only state facts. As such, we cannot assume that one fansub is any better than another. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 17:02, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
- That's precisely the opposite of what I have said. I assumed that the translations were equally valid. You have continually misunderstood what I'm trying to say, why is this??
- Also on that more general note, I'm sure you make assumptions. Facts are based on assumptions. You assume that your senses were faithful to reality, and that your memory is good, that the translator did a good job, that whatever you were reading in the manga wasn't a misprint, (also you assume good faith from other contributors...but that's a different matter i guess). Most of these are reasonable assumptions, but each of them can be wrong. Without any assumptions, only apriori knowledge like "yesterday has already passed" is possible, and they are dull. Anyway this trail of argument is rather philosophical and irrelevant, and I hope it ends here. Talk more about Saiyan hair. 22.214.171.124 18:00, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
Lol, yes quite. By facts, I mean what is printed in official publications of the manga (not fansubs like many online version) and what is said in the anime. If it is not officially stated, then it is considered "original research," and not included. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 03:11, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
- What does the official (English?) translation say? I also made a [post] in help desk asking someone who knows Japanese to help resolve this.184.108.40.206 09:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Not sure, I'm not currently in possession of the Viz sub. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 13:26, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
Is this going anywhere? more discussion about saiyan hair. How can i convince you? 184.108.40.206 12:56, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
Vegeta says all full-blooded saiyans have black hair.
Power increase
Does it ever state how much a saiyan/saiyan hybrid's power increases after healing from nearly fatalwounds? jedi_master425
- not numerically, only "considerably" 220.127.116.11 09:40, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
An Old Saiyan
Just a slight question. If something can be confirmed out of it, it can be added to Trivia or something.
In any case, I was wondering, is there ever shown, any seriously old Saiyan who looks similar to an old human, with actual wrinkles, etc... I know the excuse is made that Saiyans just have an amazing metabolism, but there from what is seen in the media, it doesn't seem like it is possible for a Saiyan to realistically look old. I mean, Goku and Vegeta are called "old" by a bunch of characters, but they don't look like it.
Or did I miss something, and is there any image somewhere in the series that depicts a Saiyan who is well past his prime?
Vellup 21:34, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
Possible Revival?
Guys. I'm new here, but I know quite a bit about DB. And, here's a Namek-sized plot-hole in the series.
You know, when they wished back everyone killed by Frieza....
Saiyan Revival
Perfect. Anothet plothole to deal with. The Saiyans were brought to life long before Baby came into the picture. Guess Toriyama forgot to catch that one.184.108.40.206 21:35, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
- The dragon balls can revive someone only if he has been dead for less than one year. Jeangabin666 21:43, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Not to mention that they would be brought back to the location where they died which is the destroyed planet Vegeta so they would probably die in the vacuum of space18.104.22.168 13:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
- The latter part is debatable, though, as there were a few instances where this belief that Saiyans can't breathe in space was completely contradicted: For one thing, there was the infamous part of Bardock's final confrontation against Frieza's army in outer space outside of Planet Vegeta (something that was also in the Manga). We also have Broly and Paragus being in Space during Broly's youth in Paragus's flashback (and he wasn't even using his energy barrier), and don't even get me started on Vegeta and Nappa blowing up Arlia or Goku placing Monster Rabbit and his gang on the Moon. Weedle McHairybug 13:46, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
- Not to mention that they would be brought back to the location where they died which is the destroyed planet Vegeta so they would probably die in the vacuum of space18.104.22.168 13:37, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
Clearly the DB universe just has slightly different physics. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 20:53, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
were Saiyans native to another planet before vegeta????????? A saiyan warrior 02:07, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
- According to DBGT and Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans, yess. Jeangabin666 07:04, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
- I wonder why the Saiyans left there old planetA saiyan warrior 22:33, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
- I think that the saiyan race could have possably evolved on earth, destroyed or used up most of its rescources and then left just in time for a new race to evolve, Humans, while i have no data to support this THEORY it could explain why saians and humans are able to produce fertile offspring. just a thought. 22.214.171.124 23:30, October 1, 2011 (UTC)SSMAN, 4:28, October 1,2011 (UTC)
- vegeta's tail
It Never Grew Back Probably Because They Cut it Off in Great Ape Form
In the original dragonball series Goku's tail is cut off in great ape form and grows back 18.104.22.168 16:42, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
Breathing in space.
Can saiyans actually breath in space. Because Vegeta, Bardock. But Frieza says they cant. So what is the truth.SSJman 00:01, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
- Perhaps they can breathe in space, but not indefinitely, like Frieza's race can. Bardock was in space, leading the rebellion, and attacked Frieza, but died soon afterwards by Frieza's hand. Vegeta got out of his space pod to destroy the planet Arlia, then got right back in. And when Goku put Monster Carrot on the moon, which you didn't mention, he went up, made the deal, and came back down. As for Broly, he used and energy barrier.126.96.36.199 18:08, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
Possible Survivors
This is a major plothole here. Back when King Vegeta was telling Prince Vegeta about the Super Saiyan legend, he stated earlier that soldiers that cannot prove their worth are sent away. All of King Vegeta's people were Saiyans. Plus, he may have already sent off Saiyans before becaus they could not prove themselves. Those Saiyans were most likely not in Planet Vegeta's vicinity when Frieza decided to eradicate the Saiyans, thus making them survivors, Plus, who is to say that Saiyans never attempted to leave Planet Vegeta? Look at Turles for example. There may be more Saiyan survivors out there than what Akira Toriyama confirmed. TheBlueSun 05:08, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Doesn't sound like a plothole, just some things that may or may not be true and that agree with all of the events from the series. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 05:36, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
- I suppose so, but it does raise some interesting questions about the Saiyan race though. TheBlueSun 19:56, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
Bardock survived in a manner of speaking. According to his episode, at least. Banak (talk) 22:49, July 8, 2013 (UTC)
Monster Carrot on the moon
In Dragon Ball, Goku took the notorious Monster Carrot and two of his henchmen to the moon. The only way they could get down was to make enough rabbit treats for all the children on Earth. How could they breathe on the moon? And did they get blown up with the moon in the 21st World Martial Arts Tournament?18.104.22.168 18:17, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
It was probably just meant as a joke. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:52, May 30, 2012 (UTC)
Trivia, maybe?
Should this character in Vegeta's elite be mentioned somewhere? He's the only blonde Saiyan I've ever seen. Not sure if it's trivia worthy, but it is interesting. -- CookiePirateTalkContribs 15:55, July 11, 2012 (UTC)- It's already mentioned in the Appearance section. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:19, July 12, 2012 (UTC)
- i thought it would be worth mentioning that the saiyans ability to get stronger when near death may be a pun off of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
- 22:04, febuary 09, 2012 (UTC)
The tail
The page says that a Saiyan's tail will grow back "unless permanently removed", but it doesn't mention exactly how to permanently remove the tail. Do their tails have a "root" of sorts, an equivalent to a hair follicle perhaps? Do we have any info shedding light on this? Ghost Leader (talk) 20:05, August 7, 2012 (UTC)
- We don't really have any further info unfortunately. Like many things, I believe some character just said it, maybe Piccolo? -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 01:58, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
Saiyan Ranks
There appears to be a slight error with the Saiyan Army paragraph stating only low-class and elites were mentioned; In fact, there were 2 more ranks mentioned in the Ocean Dub, Raditz told Goku he was a "First Class" warrior when he had him pinned down with his boot, and Vegeta stated he was a "Super-Elite" during the battle with Goku.
Ben2k9 (talk) 03:48, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
Origine of the Saiyan section
This section should be one part, not split. The Saiyans have one single origin, and it's stated several times in the series: in the anime by King Kai, then in the OVA by King Kai as well (adding how they arrived on Planet Plant), and then by Raichi in the same OVA (who adds how the Tuffles treated the Saiyans). Those stories don't antagonize each others, they complete each other + this article isn't an episode summary, so the origin of the Saiyan has to be one section with each source referenced, not a summary of King Kai's first story, then second story, etc... JeangabinTalkContrib 21:56, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Agree, they sort of complement each other. The Saiyans arrived in a ship, then lived in the outskirts, but they grew tired then attacked them Sandubadear 22:47, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, you want "2.1 Origins" to be split up and added to "2.2 War with the Tuffles", "2.3 Meeting other races", and "2.4 Annexation by Frieza"? -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:57, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- I want it to stay as it is, SSJGoku93 wants it to be: "2.1.1 King Kai's version", "2.1.2 Other versions", "2.1.3 Baby's version". JeangabinTalkContrib 23:35, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
So we have the option to list the source and then state all events from that source under it, or list the event and then put all the sources under it. The second of the two seems more like what every other page has. That is, we do not separate pages into a manga half and an anime half (and every other source), so doing it by King Kai vs. Baby as the source would be weird. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:39, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Agrees with Jeanie. SSJGoku's version is terribru. Buu uuu uuu uuu uuu!! 23:46, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
I like Jeangabin666's (the original) version. I was going to revert SSJGoku93's edits myself originally. Shakuran13ThisendsNOW! 00:05, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
Hybrid saiyan power
I wonder if it's possible that the strength of hybrid saiyans is linked to the strength of the saiyan parent at the time of conception? This would be unique to hybrids from normal saiyans. Gohan was much stronger in the beginning of Dragon Ball Z than Goku was at the end of Dragon Ball, if the scouter is to be trusted, but when compared to Goku later in the series, he is much weaker. Gohan is able to become a super saiyan at the age of 11, which was the youngest known occurence of this. However, when Goten and Trunks are born, they are able to lag just behind their parents and siblings in power for the most part: they can transform into super saiyans at the ages of 7 and 8 and it shown that trunks is doing push-ups and working under 150 Gs of pressure with his father while training for the martial arts tournament. This is much more than Goku was able to manage while travelling to Namek. Since Goten and Trunks advanced much more quickly than Gohan did (and at roughly the same rate as each other) it might indicate that the similar power levels of Goku and Vegeta at the time that the two boys were conceived lead to this result. Trunks was conceived while training for the android attack and Goten was conceived just before Goku fought Cell. The power disparity could be accounted for by the age difference between them: even though Goten is a year younger, he's nearly as strong as Trunks is (demonstrated when they try to fuse). This might indicate that at the same age, Goten would be slightly stronger than Trunks, which would make sense, given that Goku was stronger than Vegeta when the two were conceived (albeit not by much).
Jaco The Galactic Patrolman
So, I just finished reading Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, and he had some interesting information on Saiyans, that at the very least explains Goku's rather sporadic growth. According to Jaco, Saiyans have very long childhoods, (evidenced by just how small and short Goku appeared for the majority of his life), but after this childhood, a growth spurt occurs as the Saiyan's body quickly grows into a size capable of fighting, and from then, they can wreck havoc without truly aging from that point on. Additionally, the Extnction Bomb that the Patrolmen use to wipe out races doesn't affect the Saiyans, according to Jaco. Any of this worth putting onto the article?--Mina Țepeș (Enter the Bund) 08:50, April 14, 2015 (UTC)
- These patterns are already in the article. -- 10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 21:58, April 14, 2015 (UTC)