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When I think of the skaters I know of who jump and spin clockwise -or "backwards" it seems that they more often than not have above average artistry. Has anyone else noticed this?
Yes, I've noticed that, too--a lot of the "artistic" skaters are CW: Weir, Czisny, Shawn Sawyer. But there are plenty of "artistic" skaters who are CCW: Buttle, Abbott, Matt Savoie.
Well, considering that there are far more CCW skaters than CW on the elite level, maybe a higher percentage of CW skaters have above average artistry?
Yes! That is what I meant. Thank you! Oh and I meant to spell clockwise correctly in the title too. Oops.
Don't CW jumpers also tend to be left-handed? There is some correlation between left-handedness and creativity, mathematical and musical ability, etc.
I don't think most CW jumpers are left-handed. But I do think there is a correlation between being left-handed and being more creative/artistic. I believe that left-handed people also have shorter life spans.
I think that clockwise jumps and spins give a skater an unusual look on the ice, which can make them more noticed, although I don't know about being more artistic.
I'm a CW skater but I can't get the hang of CW jumps because they always look backwards to me. :/ No clue what the disconnect is there.
You obviously don't know me. I "spin" clockwise and "jump" counterclockwise and my artistry is in the negative numbers.
I'm a CW spinner, and thus jump CW too (skate director said she didn't care which side, but told me I had to pick one). I blame this on why I can't do a loop- I am NOT left side dominant, and I just don't have the muscle to get into the air. Really? Except in pairs where they have to mirror, I have never noticed a difference at all. It's just easier for me to call jumps CW, I get confused the other way. Personally, I haven't noticed a high correlation to artistry, though there certainly are a few key examples that may make it seem that way.
LOL, I do the same. Weird to rotate differently in spins and jumps...But I won't say anything about my artistry. Anyway, I don't think there is any link between hand and artistry ! Ashley Wagner skates CW, as well as Tanja Sczeczwenko (sp ?) !
Did someone call my name? I used to spin CW and jump CCW. I never had an issue with it. Then one day a coach told me I needed to pick a side. I said pfft, I don't care if I'm a little cockeyed. She said no, you don't understand. Jumping is just spinning in the air and you're going to hit a wall one day and you're just going to have to pick a side at that point and then learn it all. over. again. She spoke from experience so I started jumping CW and wouldn't ya know? I had an easier time with it so now I spin and jump CW. It's funny when I watch CCW skaters and "feel" what they're doing because my body thinks they're going the wrong way.


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After Matt Damon refused to return for a fourth Jason Bourne film, Universal Pictures decided to reboot the franchise by casting Jeremy Renner in "The Bourne Legacy," a spin-off that takes place in a world where Jason Bourne exists.
The movie wasn't much of a hit, grossing $276 million worldwide on a budget of $125 million. But the studio was still interested in pursuing a sequel, and has now officially announced that the new installment will be written by Anthony Peckham (Sherlock Holmes, Invictus).
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on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:17:58 PM
So is it a reboot or a spin-off? I am throughly confused now!!
on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:25:53 PM
first one sucked balls. a story about a junkie crappy agent chasing his pills...who the f*ck cares?
on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:26:48 PM
Stay far away Damon, your trilogy was good but Legacy was poop.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:39:45 PM
it was pretty sh*t.norton was wasted in this movie
on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:47:21 PM
Little known fact--Jeremy Renner was discovered when a film producer wandered into his local kennel and rescued him.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:00:07 PM
I saw the Blade Pattern with these movies. You have David S. Goyer write two really good installments of "Blade" with directors and then he directs the third one, clearly not having any technical skills which leads to it being okay but not nearly as good as the first two. Same thing happened here. Tony Gilroy co-wrote the first three really brilliant installments but then you let him direct AND write which means no one could check his work and that led to a poor follow-up to "Bourne Ultimatum" which to me was one of the best conclusions to a trilogy ever! And worse, now apparently anyone from the original team, Greengrass & Damon & Gilroy, you lose all remnants of the original. Such a shame. Loved the first three. By the way, Elysium...going to kick some serious ass among the science fiction community I think! Since Damon rarely does a bad movie and the director of District 9 seems like he has a very solid concept I am rooting for it!
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:09:34 PM
Yeah but even though Bourne Legacy was sh*t, Tony Gilroy wrote&directed Michael Clayton and that was a damn good movie. The scene when Tom Wilkinson's character is murdered in his house is extremely effective and shocking with how it's filmed so Gilroy can be a talented director when he wants to.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:12:00 PM
Michael Clayton was a damn good movie.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:17:26 PM
Haven't seen Michael Clayton yet. And not saying he is at all a bad director, but he was basically following in the footsteps of the work Greengrass did. And Greengrass being the director probably altered a couple things in the screenplay because he gets final say. Just saying that checks and balances made the story work.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:22:17 PM
Suck my d*ck, Renner.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:24:19 PM
Yeah some parts of Legacy are okay but it sort of feels like a fan-fiction movie. Doing a 5th film is REALLY pushing it.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:25:29 PM
Legacy was TERRIBLE. It's the only really bad movie not not-bad enough to put me to sleep.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:26:44 PM
Put it to you like this...I'd rather sit through a triple showing of Ang Lee's Hulk, GI JOE and The Phantom Menace than watch Legacy's trailer.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:31:26 PM
The only parts I didn't despise were the shootout in Rachel Weisz's house and the chase scene in the Philippines. The rest was trash.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:43:12 PM
@Sleuth: no offense, but you guys have to come to an understanding of WHY a movie sucks. Just because Gilroy went into the director's chair doesn't necessarily explain why Legacy failed. You have to see why a movie doesn't work. Is it the direction, the acting, the CGI, the casting, the costume design, et cetera? And then determine who is responsible.
Look. In this case, Gilroy directed and wrote the damned thing, but his direction is NOT the problem, just as Goyer's direction in Blade Trinity wasn't the problem, just as Rater's direction in Last Stand wasn't the problem. In all three cases, the larges most egregious flaws are the STORIES, not even necessarily the scripts. Same for Bade 3 and X-Men 3. The STORIES were AWFUL. Can't even to the casting because if, for example, Blade # had been written right, there would have been no Scarlet and Reynolds. Period.
Tony Gilroy wrote Identity, Supremacy and Ultimatum, but he had help, both in the form of competent co-writers AND Ludlum's material. In the case of Legacy, he had to craft en entirely new story WHOLE CLOTH, probably with the studio on his neck to build Renner a world of his own in which to play, and he FAILED. but not as a director, just like Goyer didn't fail as a director in Blade Trinity and Ratner didn't fail as a director in Last Stand.
I usually don't speak out at length about movies because I just don't give a f*ck. I don't give a f*ck about this website, most of the posters here, or most/all "modern" movies, but really, it's an enormously annoying pet peeve when people fail to determine WHY a movie sucks/failed and then place blame appropriately.
No offense to you, Sleuth.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:44:17 PM
Oh, and I just LOVED Bourne Legacy's ending. It's like someone performed a random cut near the end of the film reel.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:45:00 PM
3, largest.
on August 2nd, 2013 at 11:47:51 PM
Also, the editing in Legacy was downright abominable. The cuts were sh*t. Gilroy had no right being in the editing room and they should have brought in a veteran to make judicious cuts of what had to have been AT LEAST four hours of film.
But what the f*ck do you expect from Universal. They're in such a rush to keep up with the big dog's franchise farms, they don't take the time to give a damn.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:01:28 AM
Maybe Renner will be on a quest for 5 Hour Energy's in this next one, but Crank already did the adrenaline thing and that's what Legacy basically did with the pills and so..
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:01:51 AM
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on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:05:00 AM
I like how the article writer cites Waterworld as a box office bomb even though it made 264 million on a 175 million dollar budget.
Just how much money does a movie have to make before it's called a success? I know the 200% rule, but that can't be applied to every movie and it seems more than a little arbitrary.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:11:27 AM
That was a very good interview with Clooney, thanks. Someone needs to kill that stock investor f*ck like Quentin killed that hostage woman in the flea bag motel room in From Dusk Til Dawn.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:12:01 AM
Sorry I did kind of give my explanation that Gilroy was a co-writer so there was an element missing in the storytelling. Sorry if I didn't explain myself. Yes you're right that I need to explain it and not just say it's bad. Yes the editing was horrible as well, the characters were supremely flat with no real depth into their motivations except of course for Renner and even that was very plain and simple. The first three films had complexity whereas this didn't. So really it just all goes back to the writing since the actors featured were mostly good actors and even Renner has his moments in films just not this one.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:15:56 AM
@Sleuth: don't apologize to me. You don't have to. I wasn't really referring to you and I meant nothing personal by what I said. I appreciate your thoughts and presence here. My sincere apology if there is any misunderstanding
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:19:31 AM
@Sleuth: Legacy's story was rushed, aimless, contrived, weak, thin and so on. It looked like Universal told Gilroy to make anything he could think of just so the studio could run to the theaters with another Bourne-branded product, and Gilroy, without real help or Ludlum's framework, had no clue what the f*ck he was doing. The fact the movie and the book of the same name have absolutely NOTHING in common tells me as much.
Shame on Universal trying to pull the wool over the viewer's eyes, and they should know now that the dupe is revealed for what it is, people won't fall for it a second time.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:22:29 AM
Just found this:
Dunno if many people on here read books or if anyone is interested in how films are actually made, but this volume covers a very fascinating part of the film pipeline.
I'm probably very much alone in my fascination, though.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:26:18 AM
@Deaftone: yeah, I agree, but what Clooney needs to do is get off his ass and stop sucking the studio's teat. Like Costner and others, he needs to start producing his OWN films and stop complaining the studios aren't doing his bidding. In time, we're going to seen implosion of the major studios and a return to more staid mainstream filmmaking, and Clooney can advance this goal by taking his projects to the side like monks saved literature during the so-called Dark Ages.
I hope.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 12:49:43 AM
The thing is, minus the first one, all the Bourne movies had little to do with their novel counterparts, but the difference is the first three had a certain flow to the writing, music, storytelling, and characters whereas the fourth one, as you mentioned, basically through sh*t together. I don't even know where Gilroy got that story idea but frankly it made little sense and only seems to display that it is in the same universe as Jason Bourne without keeping with everything. I will say that the opening scenes with Renner training in the wilderness were fairly well done but after that they just throw sh*t in there.
No apology necessary by the way and yes I am fascinated with how the films come to be. It's interesting how the original story leads to the completed story. Hell half of what George Lucas planned for Star Wars got turned on it's head by the time New Hope actually got to it's final version.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:02:41 AM
@Sleuth: the opening scene was interesting, but the editing could have been far more polished. I had a hard time understanding the flow of the story, but that was true of the entire film. The chase sequence, which was the film's only real highlight, went on far too long and seemed to desperately ape what we saw in the previous three films. I also felt, again the editing was extremely lacking.
As for for the novels, well, by that I meant that although movies one through three weren't even close to straight adaptations, they provided a tether to keep the films grounded solidly in Ludlums universe. With Legacy, that tether was gone, Gilroy was lost in space and all he had left was memories of the previous three films, which is like f*cking the ghost of your sister instead of the hot blond next door.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:14:04 AM
I have not read any of Eric Lustbader's Bourne novels and I have wondered if they are any good because I only read the Ludlum trilogy.
Lustbader's Ninja series is hugely entertaining though and i'd like to see those adapted into an HBO series someday.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:15:52 AM
Neither have I, but Lustbader was endorsed by the Ludlum estate, so he has to have something going on in that respect...
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:19:12 AM
Yeah the first three went as far as to be praised for it's more realistic filmmaking with less CGI then most action films nowadays and the story was more grounded. This whole super soldier thing, which I sadly feel Gilroy ripped off from Captain America or some sh*t, was a pointless storyline. Not to mention they did a horrible job of editing the end of Ultimatum into the beginning of the film. Like "The Dark Knight Rises" there was very little work done on making sure the film had a good passage of time.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:25:36 AM
@Sleuth: you mentioned how they tried to segue from Ultimatum unto Legacy, but how did you feel when they said or showed Bourne every fifteen minutes? Did you get the feeling even that even Universal felt they had a lackluster product they couldn't stand on its own? I did. And I felt bad about it, not because I cared, but because I took the time to watch a Bourne movie with absolutely no real Bourne. Felt like a classic bait and switch.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:28:25 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:29:03 AM
The first couple times I was like "Sure connect it to the Bourne so it feels like the same environment" but then yes it became an annoyance where, instead of trying to focus on the character that they had, they kept trying to use Jason Bourne as a reinforcement for why the film was happening. It meant the film couldn't stand up on it's own two feet and therefore became a simple shadow to the original.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:50:56 AM
@Sleuth: that's exactly how I felt. God to know it wasn't just me who saw through that film for the cynical, rushed cash grab it is.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 1:51:11 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:12:54 AM
By having The Bourne Legacy take place at the same time as The Bourne Ultimatum, it ripped off the idea of Saw IV taking place in parallel with Saw III.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:13:36 AM
I will say this for Renner. He actually is a damn good actor when he gets meaty roles. "The Town", "Hurt Locker", and even "Mission: Impossible" where he played a slightly less tough character which surprised me. But "Bourne Legacy"...you could tell he just came for the paycheck. It's a shame. Edward Norton, Rachel Weisz, Renner, and some of the other awesome actors from the original trilogy. What a waste. Universal should have just left it alone or at least let Greengrass and Damon return when they were good and ready. No damn respect for the series.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:29:16 AM
@sleuth: Man, you got that right. What a waste of a cast. Renner, the weakest of the crew is sill far too good for Legacy. He was great as Gem/Jim in The Town, like you said, and held his own in MI4 against cinematic legend Tom Cruise. He even did well with his Avenger's role, which was more like busy work for a character with little to do. I even enjoyed him in The Hurt Locker.
My impression is Renner thought it was his turn to lead the series, with Damon heading out. I think he thought it was his time to create a lasting role like Craig in Bond, or Ford in Indiana Jones. His series. For me, I think he thought it was more than a paycheck but perhaps a real chance to make a lasting impact on mainstream movies. And I think Universal did Renner more harm than good.
If he were smart, he'd stay away, but than you may be right: he may be coming back for the money only.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:32:41 AM
Regardless of his reasons, who knows, maybe with a different writer they can allow for a better film. We'll see. And yes he was great in Avengers. Served his role well although I understand his anger at his first full time out as the character and he spends half of the film a brainwashed henchman. Still I think he'll do the character great as such in the sequel if he returns.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:34:28 AM
If Renner wants to do make a character that will have a LEGACY (HEHE) then he needs to find his own character. Doing a cheap follow-up to a character Damon established does him no good.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:48:35 AM
@Sleuth: what do you think of rumors Whedon plans to kill off Hawkeye?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:50:47 AM
This guy, in the comments, says it all regarding Avatar and news of sequels:
"Avatar was a one-shot. It wasn't really all that great nor all that original. It's success was as a high-water mark of CGI and production values. It's "magic" can't be reproduced, because there was no magic to begin with. The sequels may make some modest profit, but I wouldn't expect them to be huge."
on August 3rd, 2013 at 2:53:17 AM
Tough question. Means either Renner really is being a pain in the ass, it's misdirection, or Whedon feels taking out a human character would add some tragedy and human connection to the audience. Touch to say. I seem to recall Whedon talking the world of Renner recently so it seems like a bad rumor. Dead again, that could mean a lot of things too. It's a frikkin' mind game trying to decipher rumor from plausible fact. LOL
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:04:21 AM
@Sleuth: you may be very right about that, as Renner comes really cheap. He's value-added, in that putting him in the movie costs little compared to much hungrier stars like RDJ, so killing him off wouldn't really help marvel's budget but it might streamline the movie.
Then again, he's an accepted part of the Avengers team. Still, Marvel's going to have to find a way to rotate out some characters in order to make make room for newer members, as The Avengers' roster has changed over the years in the comics, so Hawkeye might be one who could easily go without being much missed. Maybe they'll reboot Iron Man and kick Downey out instead.
I would like to see Renner get his own movie first before whatever happens, happens, but the current Hawkeye costume needs to go favor of something a little less ostensibly garish.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:11:22 AM
tldr; mink hates the bourne legacy and jeremy renner
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:13:45 AM
Honestly, since Whedon actually cares about his characters, he might find it too soon to use Hawkeye as a respectable emotional kill. He won't just kill him off unless it actually makes you give a damn he is gone. So yeah he needs his own movie. And Downey I think is basically going to do Avenger films now as he is already signed on to 2 and 3 of the Avengers. I think that Hawkeye will probably be on a mission if anything if he doesn't appear in Avengers 2. We'll see. As far as Whedon goes, his entire cast is still coming back. So let's wait and see. We'll get news in a couple months I think on the film's progression.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:26:09 AM
I can't ever have a conversation on here without some worthless idiot troll piping up. lol.
Like I've said, the internet is nothing more than the democratization of stupidity.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:29:29 AM
LOL Just got to ignore it man. Just got to ignore it.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:33:19 AM
@Sleuth: I actually don't dislike Renner as an actor nearly as much as, say, Daniel Craig, but he doesn't seem to possess the charisma and gravitas of more appreciable actors, either, but perhaps that has to do with a lack of perceived sexual appeal among women, such that if he had what Pitt and Cruise once had, we'd see him in more and thus his appreciability would grow through exposure.
I do, again, think Hawkeye could use his own movie, but it has to have a more desaturated look. It can't look like The Avengers, because with the costume and Renner's lack of commanding performances, no matter how well it's made it's going to unintentionally resemble more campy comic book films, like Green Lantern.
Hate to rely on the current cliche, but Hawkeye might have to go a bit darker to get taken seriously as a solely franchise.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:35:18 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:36:48 AM
@Sleuth: Dude's just another troll with zero to say. He's been throwing out the Michael B. Jordan remarks every since I started that sh*t. Guess unless he can sniff my ass he has nothing to do.
Oh well.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:45:21 AM
Yeah Renner has his moments though. He might not have the presence or charisma but he has the intensity. But he needs a good supporting cast to build off of. In fact, I think if a Hawkeye film were to happen, besides being dark as you say, it should feature Black Widow since clearly Whedon shows they have a past. We'll see. His character should go on an odyssey film where he has to fight a hunter-like character and you learn about his past as a soldier. It be like a psychological war film like Hurt Locker which you know Renner can do. Screw charisma. I'll take intense and internal strength any day in an actor. Why do you think I f*cking hate Jennifer Lawrence? Bitch ain't got no soul. LOL Renner though...he lives for that sh*t. Characters with beaten spirits and complex personalities mixed with a good old fashion fighting spirit.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:48:49 AM
Basically give Renner a film that relies on internal conflict and he'll do it right. And what I mean is have Renner hunt a guy in a jungle or something. That way his skills aren't undermined by other super heroes and he can show why you don't screw with him.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:56:09 AM
@Sleuth: I agree, but you have to admit that most people are far more shallow and superficial. They like to see gold on the outside, and if you can radiate that kind of personality, you'll go a lot farther than the other guy without out. I would also argue that being successful in this world takes some sociopathy and a serious case of narcissism. I don't get that from Renner, I get a more humble, earthly feel. I don't feel he's stuck on himself or his career the way other actors are, like Will Smith. So without that inner sense of entitlement to greatness, he'll probably never arise above his mediocre position in the Hollywood jungle.
I wouldn't mind though if he put on some serious muscle and perhaps did, as you said, a "nature pursuit" movie, perhaps a a Predator like movie. I think I've mentioned that already, but I could see him carrying the role well, although he doesn't have Arnold's personality and would never look credible spouting one line witticisms. Then again, if Adien Brody did it, so could Renner. Perhaps something like that movie The Hunted.
All I know is he's not doing his career any justice starring in trash like that Witch Hunter movie, something even Nick Cage wouldn't do, and playing MacGuffin to The Avengers.
He needs a new agent imo.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:56:48 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 3:58:57 AM
Why We Love Sociopaths
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:02:52 AM
Agreed he is humble but I wouldn't call two Oscar nominations and being in half a dozen box office films a bad thing. LOL He definitely is essential to films and he does great in supporting roles. You're right Hansel and Gretel was a silly thing but every actor does that. Hell Morgan Freeman does that. Remember a recent little film called "Olympus has Fallen"? LOL Look I think charisma is overrated. I think that practically every character on-screen is an arrogant bastard so it's nice to see someone play the more down to earth characters with some good emotional depth. Not everyone can be the main star mink but Renner does a pretty damn job of proving that wrong here and there.
Yes the hunter idea is definitely the way to go. It would also separate his film from the spy films/political films of Captain America and Iron Man.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:18:28 AM
poor fella, cant handle a troll
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:20:11 AM
Why we love sociopaths
Because we dont want any consequences when we kill stupid people
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:25:33 AM
SHERLOCK season 3 trailer :
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:34:12 AM
Sherlock needs more eps. on Netflix
stingy bastards
on August 3rd, 2013 at 4:39:46 AM
it what makes the show special - 3 eps per season - no bullsh*t filler episodes and subplots like all the other crap on TV these days
on August 3rd, 2013 at 5:11:07 AM
You are correct sir
i blame it on the short attention span of the american viewer
and the networks greed to keep said viewer tuned in by adding those annoying sub plots/fillers
Its amazing how incarnations of Sherlock Holmes continue to maintain their integrity
But superhero movies f*ck themselves after the first film
on August 3rd, 2013 at 5:13:03 AM
The internship 5/10 - short on laughs but at least doesn't go low to farts and puke level of humor.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 5:35:38 AM
Watchin The Running Man
good copy
on August 3rd, 2013 at 5:58:16 AM
Rambo- I liked the internship lol, It's like a life lesson sort of film. I think I said 7 outta 10. Can't remember lol
Porn- How is the runnin man? I have it on DVD with all my other Stephen King film adaptions but haven't watched yet.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:02:15 AM
Oh, And this news sucks.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:04:26 AM
running man is a classic arnold b movie actioner...lots of hilarious one liners and 80's vibe...not one of Arnold's best but on a good day it's a 7/10
Da hell wiz you - i will not fiare on helplez human beingz
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:09:15 AM
Not gonna lie.. It's gonna take a lot for me to pop that DVd into the player lol.. It just doesn't seem that interesting of a movie.. Maybe one day :P
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:09:39 AM
also the movie is quite groundbreaking in the way it predicted back in 1987 how reality shows will become predominant in the future.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:20:16 AM
This Summer's 5 Biggest Movie Bombs
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:25:15 AM
'Red 2' just recently came out and I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been released in many places yet - so it's too early to call it a bomb.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:35:06 AM
you have piss poor judgement of movies
so just listen to RAMBO mmkay?
Thatll be greaaat
da hell wiz you
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:40:47 AM
You have to read the article, Rambo. Red came out two weeks ago, it's prime money-making period, and it's generated 57mil on a 58mil budget. Maybe it'll break even, but to Hollywood, that's a total failure. Perhaps not a "bomb", but definitely a damned dud.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:44:34 AM
^that's what i'm saying,a failure yes,but not a bomb...
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:46:05 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 6:58:04 AM
Well if RED fails to make much more, and it seems profit gross growth is slowing for that film, it may come up perhaps fifteen to to twenty mil short. Not sure if that's a bomb or not.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:04:09 AM
I dont know if you know anything about Richard Dawson other than Hogans Heroes but he was the baddest game show host ever for The Family Feud
Makin him the perfect villain for The Running Man
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:17:32 AM
Marry me Linzie Janis
And f*ck da *ssholes who wont make youtube vids available for mobile
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:20:53 AM
Michael Ansara, Kang on �Star Trek,� Dies at 91
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:22:01 AM
rumor has it he was watching 'after earth' when it happened
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:24:07 AM
Beat you to that news in the Avatar thread, Rambo.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:27:06 AM
sorry...there goes by bane moment of the day...
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:37:31 AM
Bane delivers the news? That's news to me.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:38:01 AM
@Rambo. Regarding your comment about British vs. American shows per season, I agree that American shows with 22-24 eps. per season are the ones that have a lot of filler episodes. The seasons can run too long with too many pointless episodes that add nothing to the core narrative. But I think the new model of 12-13 eps. per season, which a lot of cable series like BREAKING BAD, DEXTER, or AMERICAN HORROR STORY, keep the narrative focused and tighter, with each episode very important to the overall storyline. I think the networks have taken notice, as NBC's HANNIBAL was 13 episodes, and every episode was important in that season's story arc.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:42:21 AM
It's actually SIX episodes of Sherlock per season, given that the show is very nearly TWICE the length of the average of 42-45 minutes for American programs.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:45:21 AM
depends on how good the writing in those 12 eps is...you mentioned some of the better shows but on the other hand if you take the recent 'under the dome' which has been running only 6 episodes so far (7 more left) you can see how many crappy sub plots they shove in there.
so yeah...12-13 eps per season is an improvement but only if the writing is good enough and the actors don't suck like 'under the dome'
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:45:23 AM
Exactly. You can actually see a shift in pacing and plot at the end of the first episode's 45 min. break.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:46:50 AM
@Rambo. You're right about UNDER THE DOME. That show f*cking sux. I couldn't watch past episode two.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:52:19 AM
You should try reading the f*cking book.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:55:44 AM
it's on my list right after 'database error' by Alex A. Ginzburg
on August 3rd, 2013 at 7:58:33 AM
@Mink. which came first, the Simpsons movie or the King novel?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:04:47 AM
The movie. I read somewhere King was inspired by that movie, but he says otherwise.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:10:57 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:14:17 AM
King is a LIAR. The Simpsons Movie came out in what, 2007? King publishes Under the Dome two years later. He then says he never saw the movie but he says he saw the previews, but the previews he saw didn't include the dome, which is like almost the entire f*cking movie, so it's hard to believe the previews he saw didn't include the film's central aspect.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:22:03 AM
from what people report on the net actually there was an old 'twilight zone' episode which was very similar in it's ideas so probably both Simpsons and king can't claim originality
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:24:55 AM
Probably. That makes sense. But still, King never said "no, I got that idea from an old Twilight Zone ep", he says he came up with the idea first without ever seeing or hearing about the dome in the Simpsons movie, and I find that very hard to believe.
BTW, worst King novel ever: Duma Key.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:33:37 AM
According to Wikipedia, in 2009 King provided a dated facsimile of his original novel, Art of Darkness, which served as the direct inspiration for Under the Dome, from the early eighties.
So I guess it's all just a weird coincidence...
Don't really care either way. I stopped reading the man's books almost fifteen years ago.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:35:21 AM
I think I saw that TZ ep many years ago
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:41:20 AM
read only 2 or 3 of his older books - they were solid,don't know much about his work other then the movies based on his books and out of those the only one that fascinated me was 'the langoliers' - basically anything that involves mystery mixed with sci fi or time travel is thrilling imo.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:41:46 AM
Says 1987 on the episode.
Maybe they mean another one from the original series.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:42:37 AM
@Rambo: have you read From a Buick 8?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:45:33 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:47:57 AM
nope...good one?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:52:25 AM
One my favorite, Rambo, but that shouldn't mean much to anyone else. A lot of people don't like it, mostly because there's not much blood and guts and gore.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:55:42 AM
blood and guts and gore - probably the reason i stayed away from his books but if this one is short on those i might give it a chance one day but only on paper - hate those ebooks.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 8:57:32 AM
Which King books have you read?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:00:31 AM
Firestarter and Desperation come to my mind...Firestarter was pretty good,Deperation was quite boring as i recall
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:03:46 AM
Yeah it was, and so was the other one, The Regulators. Those were published under Richard Bachman. King wanted to experiment I think but not under his name.
IT is definitely his best book imo, and if you haven't read it, you;re missing out. Pornfly will tell you.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:10:42 AM
what about 'the stand' ? seems to be everyone's fav...
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:14:23 AM
Never finished it. Couldn't finish it. It's like 1200 pages long and the most drawn out go-nowhere story I've ever tried to read. IT is about the same number of pages but a hell of a lot more engaging.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:18:37 AM
1200 pages...oh boy,only book that long i ever read was 'Shogun' by James Clavell
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:21:02 AM
You ever read any James Michener?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:23:24 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:26:25 AM
Good. lol.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:26:50 AM
Wonder when Alex is going to post some new news.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:27:24 AM
so..are we the only 2 f*ckers here? where are all your haters,mink?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:31:35 AM
sucking each other off, probably.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:35:09 AM
Santa Claus must love Kate Upton's house. Three glasses of milk and one sweet cookie.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:39:27 AM
oh there's a lot milk being spilled on her photos these days
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:41:21 AM
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:47:09 AM
lol...must be a new record of size.bravo.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:49:58 AM
alex woke up - updates are on
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:55:45 AM
I'm here, just watching boring morning TV.
My favorite King novels in no particular order would include:
The Dark Half
Salem's Lot
Pet Sematary
Gerald's Game
The Colorado Kid
The Stand
I really liked the first 4 Dark Tower books but I plodded through the last 4, I wonder if it will ever be adapted?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 9:55:54 AM
I'm here, just watching boring morning TV.
My favorite King novels in no particular order would include:
The Dark Half
Salem's Lot
Pet Sematary
Gerald's Game
The Colorado Kid
The Stand
I really liked the first 4 Dark Tower books but I plodded through the last 4, I wonder if it will ever be adapted?
on August 3rd, 2013 at 10:00:09 AM
The Dark Half, Christine, the first 3.5 Dark Towers...yep, those are definitely some of his best books.
on August 3rd, 2013 at 5:25:30 PM
Then why not get Tom Cruise so then you have 3 midget super spies in the same movie.
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Read the information on the United Way of the Twin Cities site that provides basic information about the largest immigrant groups of people in Minnesota.
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Listen to Alan Badmington's poem, Everyone's Different. Listen to his accent and to his message. In a sentence or two, tell me what you thought of both.
Be prepared to hand in the assignment and discuss your findings in class November 22, 2004.
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Thread: SUVs for EMS calls:
I understand and agree completely with your statement, however the (minus 1 from the original 4 man eng) is not (really) that significant in THIS operation as, the (now) 3 man eng. ALWAYS responds with a 4 man quint on a fire run...never alone, a reduction from 8 to 7 on the initial attack. If it is a known (or presumed) actual fire, more than one alarm is transmitted, automatically bringing (with each alarm) 2 more engs and a quint.
"Take care of yourself first. Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow or for that matter...what the next few seconds is going to bring."
08-20-2011, 05:05 PM #27"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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I am lost so the engine has four men on it. If you subtract 1 man that leaves you with 3 so that engine is now a 3 man company. Does the quint run as a task force with the enigne? i.e. every call that the engine responds on the quint runs. If so I know for a fact that Captoldtimer can chim in on that topic. And can voice his opinion on reducing man power in them. That was before my time.
The way I see it before you had a 4 man engine company and a 4 man quint (truck) company. Now you have a 3 man enigne company and a 4 man quint (truck) company. So now you are still significantly shorting yourself. If the quint helps out doing Engine work, then the truck work gets short changed. If the Quint doesnt help the Engine then the engine work gets short changed.
The Balance of the alarm assignment is not important. When that first arriving are just pulling up and the people during the inital stages is where the impact is in regards to 4 ver 3 man companies. I can have 50 2 man companies responding to a house fire but that first arriving company is still getting short changed. Unless they are all responding in a parade of fire trucks.
Depending on the jurisdiction- the 1 or 2 house fires a month you might not see an impact on. But if that company is making 15 fire related runs a day you will see an impact. Those impacts will be an increase in work load on each firefighter on the truck. Officers being forced to perform task instead of doing the job of leading the company. Even for the routine fire calls (smells and bells) your turn around time will be increased i.e. picking up hose lines. Which has the snowball effect of the next fire call will have an increased response time.
IMO the situation that you describe is a bean counters approach to providing service. You are cutting one area of your service delivery for another. Which will result in a negative impact on the cut area. Now how big of an impact this cut will have is dependant on the demand for that cut service.
And to add further discussion to your point I believe the system you describe is actually costing more. In order for the EMS only unit to save money. The cost to put inservice and operate the added vehical has to be less then the savings on wear and tear on the enigne. Which in my swag math doesnt seem to be the case.
After further research I see that they did not purchase the vehical it was already inservice. That unit still needs to be replaced at some point though. which still adds in to the cost.Last edited by RFD21C; 08-20-2011 at 05:24 PM.
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Given the fact that there are almost volunteers that respond to the Central Station to cover the station in the event of an EMS call, or hover close by in the event of a simultaneous fire call, or administrative members (myself and the DC) that stay in the office for most responses at Central, the impact on fire response is minimal.
In addition, given the size of our district, it commonly is more efficient and faster for the squad to go to the closest satellite station to the incident from the EMS call and drop off a driver than it would be for the slower engine from Central to respond to the outer areas of the district, where we have volunteer stations.
The simple fact is EMS is 84% of what we do ... So it is our primary function. Fire and all other calls represent only 16% of what we do, so in essence, it is a secondary function.
Our volunteers give us the ability to commit our paid and volunteer ride-out staff to EMS with a minimal impact on fire response. That minimal impact does exist, but it is a reasonable trade-off for the delivery of EMS.Last edited by LaFireEducator; 08-20-2011 at 07:39 PM.
Train to fight the fires you fight.
The Suburban being used, is a SPARE from the 'rotation' when new (every few years) Bat. Chief Suburbans are put in-service, and it was NOT PURCHASED for THIS. When it's time to replace Squad 2, another 'SPARE' will be moved into service, rather than trade or auction it off.
I beg to differ on the TOTAL 'overhead' (and replacement cost) of operating a Class-A, diesel powered, Crimson eng...compaired to that of a gas powered Chevy Sub.
As I stated previously, this is obviously not for every dept. and area for whatever reasons. That being said, THIS IS WORKING OUT FOR AFR, with service expanding to another high EMS call area in the near future.
Thanks for the 'quality' discussion, observations, input and opinions..."Take care of yourself first. Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow or for that matter...what the next few seconds is going to bring."
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The old two sided coin
This is a tough call. I see the practicality of an SUV in a volunteer department. I also see the need to have the crew together on the main piece in a career department. In a career department the $ 20,000 we spend every 5 years on SUV's could buy a heck of a lot of tires and oil changes on the big pieces and you have all of your tools if the blinger comes in on the way back from a boo boo box run. I am very weary that the day will come when we are returning and come across the child trapped in a sceond story bedroom and the first floor is cooking. I like to think I pushed the movement to take only the big piece to MVAs but I am sure someone here will dispute that. The other problem we have here is the PD gets Tahoes for 1 officer and we cram 3 firefighter/paramedics in a small SUV (Grand Cherokees soon to be Escapes.
Please don't just settle of the local light guy who works out of his garage or the radio shop. Have your unit built by a pro, it doesn't have to be my company it could be one of our competitors we can plan and integrate things they way they should be/ It will be the most used unit in the station so why not treat it like the rest of your apparatus. It makes a world of difference you can get a warranty and you have someone to go back to if you have a problem.
Did I advertise any?Fyrtrks
1. We run 3 man companies, won't work. City is not going to increase our manpower to save fuel $$.
2. Only 1 double house with engine/truck, not going to cut manpower from companies already down to 3.
3. We don't have any spare utility vehicles. They are given to other city dept's just before the wheels fall off.
4. "Spare" Suburban or not, it is an additional vehicle in the fleet you wouldn't need if not for this EMS response program.
My crew was recently dispatched for a lift assist. We were enroute and dispatched to an apt fire alarm. We were two blocks away from the alarm and arrived almost immediately, and extinguished the fire before our normal second due would have showed up-had they not been on another call. The third and fourth due were also on other calls, but broke away and responded direct to the fire scene. Can't see that 3 Suburbans would have done much good at such a fire had it gotten away from us, or we had been OOS. Not enough room in a Suburban to carry all the gear we used on that small fire either-turnouts, SCBA, 6' hook, axe/halligan, water can, TIC, toolbox, etc.
I think that it is ridiculous to worry about mileage on fire apparatus. What's next, the Suburban gets 12mpg, lets put the EMS crew in a Ford Focus to get 20mpg? How about mopeds? After 15 years that engine apparatus will be rusting and falling apart whether it has 120K miles on it or 30K. Saving a few gallons of gas won't make up for spending $60-80K purchasing and outfitting another Suburban.
Here is a REAL 'money saving' idea for cities on a low (or have recently lost) their budget altogether. Not an EMS, but a First-Aid kit could be added. PD's have been using bikes for many years in high congestion areas, so why not FD ? A section of 2.5" for a direct hookup, and a couple of "cans," what more could one ask for ?
Starts everytime; quiet...no ear damage; makes the EPA mad as it is not emitting anything; zero fuel cost; tires are reasonable; convenient to house nearly anywhere...man wish I would have thought of and got the pat. on this super idea.
more 'great' ideas/solutions here -> http://www.strangevehicles.com/Last edited by 1OLDTIMER; 08-22-2011 at 11:49 AM.
"Take care of yourself first. Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow or for that matter...what the next few seconds is going to bring."
I'm SURE it's because of congestion and I agree 100% on the other issue. Not so sure on the Dual role,Steve Dude I'm sure can enlighten us. Given the recent events in London,I'm sure he's either trying to rest of fix stuff,lot of horror there recently. Nice pic btw,I LIKE it,hehe T.C.
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The department I am with just went to three man shifts a few months ago and this has opened up all kinda of possibilities. When I stay up at the station for the night we have a four man crew (I am a volly). If a medical call comes in two of us will often take the F250 with medical gear and our turnouts. Our district is only 11 sq miles (give or take a bit) and we generally only beat the ambulance by 3-5 minutes. If we get on scene, and immediately get toned out for a fire, even if we have to wait 4-5 minutes with the patient, we will only be 30 seconds to a minute behind the engine for actually arriving on scene. and often times will beat the engine. Then you have four firefighters on scene in roughly the same amount of time you would have if we had all taken the engine. The only downside (that I can see from OUR system) is that when the two guys in the F250 show up on scene they are not packed out yet, but while they pack out on scene the driver gets off the engine and does a scene sizeup and the guy riding seat pulls the line. No problems there.
The fire service has changed dramatically and the reality of it is we will get many many more opportunities to save a life on a cardiac arrest call or a not breathing call then we will pulling someone out of a fire. And since life safety is the priority we run Echo medical calls (not breathing calls mainly) with as fast a response time as possible and we do get saves because we can often times be on scene in under 2.5 minutes from when the pager goes off for the call. All the firefighters at the station (paid) are trained to the same minimum standards, everyone of them can run command, drive any truck, pump any truck, and operate any line. This means if we have two guys out in the F250 on a medical call (and two at the station) and we get a vehicle accident with entrapment then per SOP's one guy at the station takes the engine which is fully outfitted with extrication and the other guy takes the "service truck" which is like a rescue and is outfitted with more extrication tools and loads of other equipment. The two guys in the F250 will almost always beat the engine and service truck even if they have to wait on the ambulance 2-3 minutes. and you have 4 guys on scene, with two full sized apparatuses to block traffic and a third that can be used for traffic control.
Our system works well, and it is due to our area size, our staffing, and the fact that our guys are trained for everything on every truck...period.
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A lot of this arguement centers on the number of fire v. EMS responses.
In our case, we are primarily an EMS response agency. We see a very limited number of fires, except during periods of high brush fire danger, such as we are in now.
We have built our reputation with the citizens on our delivery of EMS. In fact, at one point we ran EMS transport for the majority of the parish before the parish EMS agency was formed. Because of that, we have a very long and storied history, and reputqation, with the delivery of EMS.
There are likely other agencies who run a fire/EMS mix similair to ours that view EMS as a primary, or at a minimum, an equal with EMS.
There may be other areas, including some posters in this discussion who either run far more fires, or have far more limited resources to deal with fire-related calls. Thier perspective regarding the delivery of EMS, and the resources that should be committed to EMS v. fire will differ significantly from the perspective of those who run far fewer fires. They amy view fire as the priority, with EMS being of alesser importance, or in some cases, a distraction, or a drain on resources that should be dedicated to fire v. EMS.
Bottom line is how we view the committment of manpower and resources to EMS v. fire is a product of our department's and it's manpower and resources, the community, and the fire/EMS mix in that community.Train to fight the fires you fight.
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We already tried the motocycle fire truck here in the 1930's. It had a side car and everything. From what i have read they actually were some what effective. i am sure Captoldtimer has a photo of one. Heck he might have even rode on one!!! I will see if I can find the article i read on it when i am at work next time.
I guess we are getting off the topic a little, but here was Maxim's "motorcycle" w/pump and hose that was made during the WWII years. Wouldn't one of these be a great find for a parade or muster today...
"Take care of yourself first. Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow or for that matter...what the next few seconds is going to bring."
You better HIDE these. Some Genius at City Hall will try to get them BACK. IMAGINE the savings,hehe T.C.
As my friend has said, we use them from 1920 to 1940. No I wasn't on the job then. They were very easy to get around with. Two [2] members from a 7 man company. It was a new concept that began in 1920 that really worked!
Motorcycles, with a side car, could weave in and out of traffic with two members to answers calls such as auto's, trolley cars, grass, trash, chimneys, kitchen and incipient fires in buildings. Most of the time they went alone, but also ran as part of the company which they were assigned to.Stay Safe and Well Out There....
Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers
Capt...thanks for posting the GREAT photo from the '20's. I can't tell if it was an Indian or Harley, but really doesn't matter.
You probably remember seeing the MC's the U.S. Army used during WWII, and same there...zoomed all over the place under most conditions. They were sold for as low as $50 after the war...but are worth a fortune today."Take care of yourself first. Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow or for that matter...what the next few seconds is going to bring."
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So the cost saving will be moot when the "spare" suburban needs to be replaced. Even if it is another hand me down, there had to be another new one purchased. Figure $50,000 for a new one (including lights, radio and such, even if it is just manpower to move and install) it will take 10 years to cover the $4600 a year savings before it saves money again.
Also has all the EMS equipment been taken off the other apparatus and placed on the suburban or is it duplicate equipment (another hidden cost.)
FYI the Rochester Fire Department is going away from the Midi concept.
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As I understand it the rationale for getting FDs involved in EMS primarily was that they could generally arrive faster than the ambulance service thereby gaining the few extra minutes that can sometimes be very important for patient survival.
But, it seems to me that if FD funding is at such a critical level that worrying about tire and gas costs for the engines are becoming an issue, its time for the city to have a serious talk with whoever provides their ambulance service. Perhaps they've grown a little too used to the FD taking up their slack. Why not have them deploy multiply SUV-based crews across the city instead of the FD doing it?
My combo department is considering doing something a little like this, but I wouldn't have much of an issue with it since our paid staff is already larger than justified based on either our fire or EMS call volume. So, while on some level it probably will eventually impact some fire scene, our real fire calls (as opposed to false alarms, etc.) are so rare that I can't imagine many situations where it would make much difference. But, for larger towns, it would be more of an issue.
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Do less with less?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're clearly not one of the career members of your combo FD? I guess false alarms should be handled by less personnel, since, after all they're just false alarms, right? You're either severely misguided or jealous. How about the very first time you show up to an actual fire with less personnel, you've just raised the overall risks to everyone firefighters and civilians. Sure, you can adjust your tactics to cover up lost personnel, but in the end this is a form a a reduction in service or slowage of service to the civilians who you serve. Not to worry, you not alone in your misguided view. Everyone understands making the best use of the taxpayers dollars, but it somehow is more offensive when some of the misinformation come directly from the ranks of the FD.
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