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15/11/2012We still await the EURO to come back and that is sad as the middle of Europe break s the centre will have the problem then if not now Official figures due Thursday are expected to show the 17-country Eurozone is in recession, though only just. The Eurozone has dodged recession during its three-year debt crisis, mainly thanks to the strength of its largest single economy, Germany. But even Germany is struggling now as confidence drains in the face of the turmoil afflicting large parts of the Eurozone, mainly the southern economies of Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal. Five Eurozone countries are already in recession, officially defined as two straight quarters of economic contraction. Thursday's figures may see more joining them. Analysts expect the Eurozone economy contracted by a quarterly rate of 0.1 per cent in the third quarter. Following a 0.2 per cent decline in the second quarter that would put the Eurozone in recession. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
"Since the start of the program, Greece has done a tremendous fiscal consolidation effort, one of the biggest fiscal consolidation that any EU country has done over the past 30 years (resulting in an improvement in the hdeadline budget balance of around 6 percentage points of GDP since May 2010), in the context of a substantial contraction in GDP and very difficult economic and political conditions. Greece has also made significant improvements to its monitoring and budgetary control procedures".
Troika report
This is then another punch in the economy and a huge blow to EU A wave of anti-austerity anger is set to sweep across Europe with general strikes planned in Spain and Portugal and walkouts in Greece and Italy - grounding flights, closing schools and shutting down transport. Tens of thousands of workers are expected to take part in the dozens of co-ordinated protests in a so-called European Day of Action and Solidarity against spending cuts and tax hikes. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
Most people commenting here, really need to pay a visit to a psychiatrist!
This guy Sikko6 all day long is just posting comments about Greece!He must have a pretty busy schedule!
I don't know why the fuss over Greek debt. It cannot be repaid, that's clear. Why not call it a day and get out of the Euro.
With Drachmas they can handle their problems better. The Euro is not for everybody that must be understood.
I'm looking forward to a cheap holiday in Greece, listening to their wonderful music.
13/11/2012) A clash among Greece's international lenders over how long to give the stricken country to get its debts down to a sustainable level reignited fears on Tuesday that the euro zone debt crisis could flare up anew. Euro zone finance ministers suggested on Monday that Greece should be given until 2022 to lower its debt/GDP ratio to 120 percent but International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde insisted the existing target of 2020 should remain. "We clearly have different views. What matters at the end of the day is the sustainability of Greek debt so that country can be back on its feet," Lagarde said in an unusually public airing of disagreement. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
It could be a viable option for Greece to default, better a short term intense sharp pain than a long term groaning tribulation. Repeated requests for cash cannot be the solution. (btt1943, vzc1943)
Debt is NOT the problem.
Greeks don't produce things they eat and use.
Greeks need money to import those nice things like computers and tablets to access internet and bent anger on foreigners here on The Economist! That's why Greece cannot default!
It won't be long before the rest of Europe and the World will be "rubbing their eyes in amazement" at how quickly and vigorously Greece will recover and change for the better in the coming 2 - 3 years!
I predict that the growth will be SPECTACULAR! in fact, because Greece has been stranded in a 'time warp', stuck somewhere between the 70's and 80's until this crisis, the effects of all these structural and modernization measures (far more important and relevant than the cuts and austerity), will have a dramatic impact.
There are already encouraging signs, yesterday it was announced that Hewlett Packard in cooperation with COSCO and TRAINOSE are making Pireaus the main entry point of HP's products into Central Europe, the former Eastern block countries, the Middle East and North Africa! Also announced was a major investment by UNILEVER to produce many of it's big brand products in Greece to supply the local market and the region.
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Still vomiting your racist anti Greek views I see! You will soon be eating LARGE HELPINGS of humble pie, mark my words!
11/24/12 European banks have asked the European to postpone the introduction of tougher global bank capital rules by a year to 2014 after US regulators told lenders they did not expect the new regulations to take effect in 2013. The tougher rules, known as Basel III, are the world's regulatory response to the 2007-09 financial crisis and would force banks to triple the amount of basic capital they hold in a bid to avoid future taxpayer bailouts. The European Banking Federation sent a letter on Nov 21 to EU Internal Market Commissioner Michel Barnier, formally requesting a delay on the grounds that EU banks would be at a competitive disadvantage if they introduced the new rules before their US counterparts. "We are now very troubled over the possible repercussions that the most recent statement from the US Authorities may have for the international competitiveness of Europe's banks," the letter, made available to Reuters on Saturday, said. It said EU banks were facing sweeping regulatory changes including new rules on capital requirements and liquidity buffers, and the creation of a EU supervisory authority. I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA
It seems to me most people commenting on here have nothing of any value to add to the debate other than to vent their spleens mouthing off what is really dressed up as racist drivel about all all Greeks are crooks in an attempt to maintain stereotypes about all Greeks being evil, corrupt lazy and that the average Greek deserves to be demonised.Why not go further and accuse the Greeks of causing all the world's finacial problems. How come all those hardworking and pious countries that did everything right like Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy find themselves in this mess? I suppose it must be Greeks fault is it? Greece did not cause the European problem, the Euro currency did, Greece is just a symptom of the euro that's why the rest are suffering.
You must be another insane Mr Xenophone.
Euro didn't cause Greek crisis!
Greeks cheated international lenders. Now Greece cannot repay debts. That's criminal fraud, by legal definition!
Are you Eastern European by any chance? Your rabid Greek hating comments seem to suggest so!
Greeks should stop moaning, get down to work and work out a way out of the economic downturn they seem to be in. This continuous 'oh please pity me and let me off the hook' nagging won't get them out of the situation. Postponing reform and getting new deadlines and more new deadlines for due debt payment translates to more money from the northern European nations spilt into Greece. Greece is fortunate because this 'if I go down, you go down with me' trick works pretty well, don't it?
Eastern European nations have had to make immense adjustments to align themselves with the EU and what Greeks are going through are easy to handle by comparison. Eastern European societies experienced cataclysmic changes and you didn't hear so much fuss...
Greece got into the euro based on false or falsified data. It wasn't their primal sin, though. All throughout their European adventure they have been trying to fool their partners in all fields - works projects, farm-subsudies and so on (not that they were unique case in this respect).
Ok, they managed to fool Europe. What about the rest of the countries? Why did they let them do that and why did the Greeks get away with such behaviour? I think it wasn't out of ignorance or naivity. I just won't buy that! There must be another explanation. I reckon that, sitting on cultural, energy and -up until 1989- political faultline, Greece matters. The Greeks have realised this and they have accordingly bargained their entry to a number of prestigious political and economic country groupings, a thing which has earned them lots of benefits and an improved standard of life. Their sense of insecurity, being one of the world's hotspots, was bolstered.
They might be feeling a little bitter for being told to get lean, but their seat inside the eurozone gives them great leverage, if one takes into account the general fear in Europe of contageon after a Grexit. They have even gone as far as blocking other countries into entering the EU (the Rep. of Macedonia has been barred from entering the EU, solely due to Greek objections), somethiNg that proves that even rogue EU states can determine EU politics to their benefit. Greece has proven this.
"I reckon that, sitting on cultural, energy and -up until 1989- political faultline, Greece matters."
Greece doesn't matter more than Bulgaria, Macedonia or Serbia. And even if it did, this doesn't mean that the Greeks need to share one currency with, e.g., the Finns.
It is rather so, I think, that, at the outset, the Euro project was highly ideologically motivated ("we're a happy family") . . . and thus vulnerable to political blackmail once a country was admitted with full veto rights.
You're right on, la.výritý!
Just to add some numbers to what you say: in 2009, the average salary in Bulgaria was €302 per month, and an average pension just €63. Unlike in Greece, I haven't heard about Molotov cocktail hurling at the police as a national pastime or billions being demanded from the EU, or else....
In Bulgaria some earn much more than that and some less, it really depends on the market for your skills and if you are productive (except gov. employees, but they get shit payment so it reflects their productivity I guess). We don't have any more social nets, and I think it is for the better, unlike Greece people here are now used to being scrutinized for what they do and fired if they don't. We had and some are still ednuring the misery inherited by the communist criminals who ran and still are trying to run the country. So I have no sympathy for Greece, sorry, I have Greek friends and they are great but their whole society is scewed in believing they have a good standart of living, when in reality they were just borrowing from their children.
"Greece got into the euro based on false or falsified data"
A widespread opinion that has become stereotype.
Let's see what former prime minister Kostas Simitis and present minister of finance have written on this :
I am Greek and I know better what happened in my country.
Greece is a country with many structural weaknesses (bureaucracy, closed professions, tax evasion, etc) but in 2004 country's debt burden was not so heavy. If crisis erupted then, country's situation would be similar or even better than Portugal's.
It was the disastrous government of Kostas Karamanlis (2004-2009) and the bad handling of crisis by following prime minister George Papandreou that made Greece the black sheep of the european family, not the "falsified data" with which Greece managed to get into eurozone.
It is understandable that Simitis tries to whitewash the book-cooking which took place in Greece, also under his administration. Fact is that Eurostat concluded in 2006 that the public deficit of the Greek economy amounted to 6,1% in 2003, more than double the percentage presented by Simitis' government.
Eurostat also concluded that earlier false data presentation led wrongly to Greece's admission into the Eurozone. The different accounting methods, as claimed by PASOK, especially for calculating the military expenses during Simitis' term constituted only a small part of much more substantial expenditures that were fraudulently concealed by the PASOK government under PM Simitis.
While the EU administers an active cohesion policy, as part of a policy with the aim of improving the economic well-being of regions in the EU that lag behind to avoid regional disparities, the Eurozone has not such instruments. The Eurozone doesn't even have a budget of its own. This is why only countries should have taken part in the Euro project which fulfill the strict Maastricht criteria and are among the more developed economies of the EU. This is why Greece, at that point, should not have joined the common currency.
BTW, one third of the EU's budget is devoted to this aforementioned 'cohesion policy', which aims to remove economic, social and territorial disparities across the EU. Greece alone received the equivalent of approx 78 billion Euros from these various structural funds. But instead of using it wisely, all Greek governments, including Simitis', frittered it away.
Bulgaria does a lot of exports.Thieves,drug lords and whores.Oh i forgot to mention pimps!
"It is understandable that Simitis tries to whitewash the book-cooking which took place in Greece, also under his administration"
My naive mind has the following questions :
i) Only Greece has commited book-cooking?
ii) Why EU (and especially Germany)did not check more thoroughly the greek falsified data?
Greece has a lot of social and financial structures that are not found in western countries, structures that have survived from its Ottoman past and the instability that followed in Balkanic peninsula. These structures are hampering Greece to rise again. But, looking at the fiscal part of the problem only, Simitis left Greece with a debt that could be handled if crisis burst out in 2004. The disastrous government of K. Karamanlis (2004-2009) is the main responsible for our today's tragic situation. As a Greek citizen let me know a bit more regarding our internal political and financial affairs.
Now things are very difficult, but if structural reforms are pushed and there is no some kind of social revolt, then I am sure that Europe will be surprised positively by Greece.
I don't know if "only" Greece cooked its books, but usually no foreigner is interested in these things as long as such things are merely internal affairs.
Your question, why EU (and especially Germany) did not check more thoroughly the Greek falsified data, is easy to answer concerning Germany. There is no provision within the Maastricht treaty that gives the right to any foreign government to scrutinize the data of another member state.
Concerning the EU, I only can guess. The EU is an umbrella organization of various countries. Some are members of the Eurozone, some are not. A separate administrative body solely for countries using the Euro doesn't exist.
Eurostat, the statistical office of the EU, merely collects data provided by national governments. It has no authorization to bring this provided data into question, less so to scrutinize them. This made it easy to cheat.
Greece's fraud came only to surface because, quite suddenly, it asked other Eurozone countries for financial aid (which shouldn't have been necessary by the data provided to Eurostat).
This request happened only because another clandestine deal with Goldman Sachs popped when Goldman negotiators asked for more collateral which newly elected PM Georgios Papandreou couldn't or wouldn't provide. This event triggered the Greek avalanche.
The rest is known: Greece received in May 2010 €110bn euros of bailout loans, combined from its Eurozone partners and from the IMF, to prevent default. In March 2012 Greece received a debt reduction of up to 75% from institutional and private Eurozone lenders. Soon it became apparent that this would not be enough, so a second, 130bn-euro bailout was conditionally agreed earlier this year.
A fiat currency is not backed by anything. Its only justification to exist is "trust" - trust that the 'buying power' of that 'legal tender' will continue to exist, trust that the currency is still in use tomorrow. The 'fate' of a single user, Greece in this case, is totally irrelevant in this context. For having a "trusted currency" -if this is the goal as I understand it- common debt issuance is not needed ... rather the enforced elimination of national budget deficits. A conglomerate of Greece-like bond-issuers would not create 'more' trust in the currency, but less.
The (still existing) trust in the Euro is derived from societies like Germany's - not from "all becoming like Greece", amassing "common debt" nobody can handle in the end. Such scheme will, sooner or later, drown the currency zone as a whole.
If Greece discontinues to use the common currency is neither decisive for the Euro nor for the European Union (as commenter Pedro Macedo misleadingly claimed). As a matter of fact, it would heal the rest of the (Eurozone) body if the tumor would be taken out quickly.
Currently, Greece is the biggest obstacle standing in the way for healing the Euro. Greece permanently causes destruction; - destruction of the necessary trust in this common currency. The sick attitude of a bigger part of the Greek society is seen -at least here in the US - as "typical" for the whole of Europe . . . despite the fact that many countries exist in Europe which score highest in 'political integrity' and lowest on the 'international corruption scale'.
No, thank god, Europe is not "like Greece". It would be horrible if it were. Greece and the likes will never change, unless they are ruled by dictators. This, even a Europe with "joint debt bonds", can't provide for. Sorry, the E.U. is meant to be a democratic Union of independent nations.
Greece is the "cancer" on the common body, slowly spreading throughout the Eurozone. Because "cancer" refers to a class of diseases for which no real 'cure' exists, the solution for the Euro is obvious: Cut the cancer out! Quickly!
The cancer is the single currency, it is the old gold standard that failed before it. You want rid of the cancer, be rid of the single currency.
This is not the so. There are a few countries quite happy with the Euro, mainly countries which have their finances under control. The ones that wish to have a currency they can inflate at will should return to their drachma, lira or pesetas.
Early days of computing, there was great debates about legality of use of computers in business and government transactions. Basically you deposit money on bank, then what they do is change magnetic status of disk drive. There is no way one can verify. Things can change. Someone can earse without trace, etc. If you cannot "trust" technology and institions, we cannot use computer technology to process business and government transaction.
If you cannot trust your member states such as Greece, such organisation is kaput.
The survivability of a common currency doesn't depend on the numbers of its users, but solely on trust. Thus, it's rather the individual member's trustworthiness that counts, not 'the numbers'.
Consequently - one could say - a common currency is as reliable as its 'least reliable member'. An untrustworthy member must let go quickly, similar to a 'foul apple' in a root cellar; otherwise it will eventually jeopardize the health of 'all' or, in the case of a currency union, it will jeopardize the trust in that currency as a whole. This is exactly why the Maastricht rules were made binding and why the separation of risk and 'bad behavior' was made compulsory in form of a 'non-bailout clause'.
If a lesser number of partakers are using a common currency doesn't mean that the whole currency is 'kaput'. As a matter of fact the currency becomes healthier if the "foul apples" are sorted out . . . in due time.
BTW, the demand of some, including this magazine, to keep the 'foul apples' in the common root cellar "for the sake of the Euro', is as malicious as the suggestion to throw together in one basket the still healthy apple's with the foul ones, via "mutualizing" the latter's unmanageable (foul) debt or via a hasty "Joint Deposit Insurance" of already gambled away deposits.
Such insurance is only possible for future deposit liabilities (not for the already gambled-away ones). However, in any case the sine qua non prerequisite is that a fully functioning independent central regulator and a central supervising power are in place beforehand.
The Economist surely wouldn't suggest a assumption of past liabilities if it were British banks - not German - that are compelled to carry the risk of foreign banks which are, without the slightest hesitation, ready to escape the clutches of any reliable supervision.
The Greek electorate indeed seems to be quite 'dumb', dumber at least than the electorate in many other European countries. How, otherwise, could -for decades now- a majority of the Greek voters make believe that, when it comes to public finances, "two plus two" equals 99? Instead, they voted people into office who promised them lifestyles the country in no way could support on its own.
This general 'stupidity' of the electorate is also reflected by the current demand of many Greeks to continue these borrowed lifestyles and entitlements of the past; demands which bankrupted their country in the first place. It's this obvious 'stupidity' of a bigger part of the Greek electorate which makes this country so chaotic and unpredictable. The Eurozone should cut Greece lose, let it default.
They were brought in for ideological reasons a the behest of Brussels, no point crying now when you are a supporter of the €Urocrats.
I'm no supporter of the €Urocrats, Cutters, and you know this. But I am interested in a healthy Europe. This is not the same.
One only has to read your comments past to know you as a €Urophile.
Everything that seems to be good for Europe is 'good' for me too. Yes, I wish only the best for that old piece of earth.
It's a matter of fact that Greeks without help from abroad would be in the shit. What do they think they are going with their street riots and tumults? Do they think that with the riots they can avoid to be overwhelmed by the events? If they thinks so they are on the wrong track and consequently doomed. That's sure as eggs are eggs. The solution to reach safety: GROWTH. How? Hard work, production of quality products which will be demanded and consequently they will increase the sales and the export of the produced goods. There isn't another alternative. No government can help them.
Greece should use the same line as the €U.
EU budget talks hit impasse
" Last month, the European Commission demanded a £7.3 billion spending increase by the end of this year to meet a funding shortfall, figures that are disputed by Britain and other governments
At the same time, the European Parliament voted to reinstate over £6.5 billion in funding that had been cut by governments from next year's budget to reflect national austerity programmes.
Negotiations were suspended on Friday night after MEPs walked out of talks because governments, led by Britain, the Netherlands and Germany, resisted the commission's demand for extra cash this year"
If an increase is good enough for €Urocrats, then it is certainly good enough for Greek bureaucrats.
Don't worry,greek friends!The Help is coming:as soon as you will be totally ruined,you economy for sale for some dime,you will see the Miracle:the apparition of "investments"linked to an "increased productivity".Wich means 5oo € monthly salaries to fatten the german bosses.Here we definitively can watch the real nature of the Europe of Bruxelles.A crime association that has nothing to share with solidarity,morality and,after all,the democracy that you invented
What industry Greece has?
Tourism? You must be kidding!
Greece has nothing.
Only thing Greeks can do is to bring lots of tourists into Greece and let them spen. Germans and Chinese have the money to travel to Greece and spend the money. However Germans and Chinese are NOT going to travel to Greece in fear of personal safety. Greeks blame everything Germans and foreigners. Greeks attacked Chinese tourists and reported world-wide. Who's going to travel to Greece? Greek hotels are closing down. Where money can come from? No one wants to lend money because they know Greeks won't repay!
What do you expect from Greece?
Yes, Greek hospitality is a peculiar thing. Chinese get attacked? Not only them: a New Zealander couple of weeks ago was attacked by locals in Crete, and when he tried to defend himself the Greek police bundled him, brought him into their station's cell, beat the shit out of him - demanding money! Sort of ethnic mentality, I guess. The guy was clever enough to conceal a mobile phone, and Greek cops dense enough not to search him... but actually their priority was cash, so why bother? So he was able to call mates and those fetched a consular officer, so Greeks didn't manage to kill him after all.
And now there is a warning from the Foreign Affairs Ministry here in NZ: when in Greece, move only in groups. Like on the battlefield...
You poor dumbass see the whole picture.How many new hotels have opened since the crisis has begun? More than those that have closed.Greece still has more than 15M a year and totally deserves it.Combines nice people,nice food,unique historical heritage,great beaches,great weather and beautiful landscapes!
Over the past several weeks, we have been discussing weather Greece should stay in or out of the Eurozone.
According to Greek Mithology, Heracles, son of Zeus, a demi-god, was given 12 jobs:
1.Slay the Nemean Lion.
2.Slay the nine-headed Lernaean Hydra.
3.Capture the Golden Hind of Artemis.
4.Capture the Erymanthian Boar.
5.Clean the Augean stables in a single day.
6.Slay the Stymphalian Birds.
7.Capture the Cretan Bull.
8.Steal the Mares of Diomedes.
9.Obtain the girdle of Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons.
10.Obtain the cattle of the monster Geryon.
11.Steal the apples of the Hesperides (He had the help of Atlas to pick them after Hercules had slain Ladon).
12.Capture and bring back Cerberus.
Today, Greece has been given some (force) labours. To see the detail, please see IMF Country Report No. 12/57, in www.imf.org
The (ultimate) question is to know if Greece, like Heracles, is capable of doing the task in hand.
Heracles jobs semmed a lot easier.
Still, European Leaders have to decide if they want more Europe (Euro bounds - Project Bounds) or less Europe (the End of the Euro, and, eventually the end of the European Union.)
Greece situation will not budge an inch. You can bet your last bottom dollar on that. The solution for Greece and not only for Greece is the political union (the United States of Europe) where the ECB would have the duty (like the Fed in the USA) to help the state in trouble without batting an eyelid. As far as the union doesn't exists, but only the Eurozone, it stands to reason that the ECB counts the cents because the other members of the EU, and specially Germany, are looking at the detail (their interests)instead of the whole. They are lackyng in an overall view. If they don't change their stupid attitute, this attitude will be their doom
Why the hell are they cutting pension levels heavily?
Just lift the retirement age by 6 years - immediately (lift all qualifying age thresholds & number-of-years worked thresholds).
That way, there will be no additional pensioners over the next 6 years (except disability pensions). Every year, the number of people receiving a pension will fall, and yet the number of people in productive work will grow - systematically improving public finances, while also boosting GDP & consumption.
And with that, any cuts to current payroll & pensions would be far more modest - generally raising confidence and in itself boosting consumption, investment & tax revenue.
Aside from all that, slashing military spending from > 3% of GDP to 1% or less would be the best possible compromise for protecting public welfare - and for protecting real national security (civil war is a bigger threat than invasion at this stage).
"It feels as if the troika has selected the old for special punishment," commented Constantina Athanassakis... you've got to wonder what kind of bullshit the Greek media are feeding these people. It's incompetent (or rent-sucking) Greek politicians that are targeting poor pensioners. Budget choices (in the sense of where cuts should fall) are still entirely made in Athens (the Troika can only reject plans if they aren't fiscally credible).
It's the Greek government that's to blame - and the Greek government that should be slashing the military, lifting retirement ages and pursuing other pragmatic policies to close the fiscal gap with minimal social pain.
Interesting idea lifting the retirement age. However with the current unemployment figures in Greece I doubt this would help the country at all.
If businesses were forced to keep employing their older staff they would employ fewer young people to compensate. A very bad idea when youth unemployment is running at nearly 60%.
Part-time jobs and hiring based on actual skill, with less (*less*, not none) regard for diplomas, let alone age, could be one way to go. In fact, I predict it WILL be the way to go in the future.
And I am not speaking of Greece only.
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It was a Good day. One of the best 4ths we had. I enjoyed watching the boys collecting all the candy at the parade and Gray wanting to eat every piece. Then the evening was completed with the fireworks. We had a lot of fun.
We had an amazing day with you! glad you had fun at the fireworks too. Thank you, thank you.Love you.
look like the 4th of july was blast!BTW I just love the skirt that your wearing it's so feminine and looks so comfy!Renee
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Gorgeous photos! Glad you all had a good time!You look fab as always! :-)
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If you're part of the protein underground rebelling against the "small plate" trend that leaves real people hungry an hour later, Butcher and The Boar grunts your language. This new restaurant in downtown Minneapolis is, as the name implies, unabashedly meaty, all done with the flair of an experienced local chef. The entire look and feel is solid and traditional, with blocky fonts on the menu, furnishings marked by thick slabs of wood and a floor covered with a few hundred thousand pennies. The open kitchen provides a clear view of an enormous wood-burning grill putting the flame to slabs of meat, and the patio includes an outdoor fireplace.
The menu includes, of course, steaks and ribs. But this is far from your grandpa's charbroiled steakhouse. The menu—seemingly drawing equally from German and Southern influences—includes more exotic choices such as turkey braunschweiger, wild boar hot links and green chile chorizo. For the courageous, there's head cheese and pickled beef heart. Sides include familiar delights like skillet corn bread, along with surprises like caramelized broccoli and cedar-planked mushrooms. Our desserts were real conversation-starters with other diners when the waiter delivered our bourbon and coke float (served with a classic Coke bottle) and mint-and-chocolate grasshopper pie. Plus, there are 30 craft beers on tap and a selection of 65 bourbons.
Our server was exceptionally informed and proactive, stepping in to clarify when we started ordering an appetizer that sounded deceptively like an entrée. Butcher and The Boar is a hip joint, bringing the noisy conditions and crowded seating endemic to such scenes. Come ready to talk loudly to your companions and to watch that your elbows don't hit the pile of meat on the next table.
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HAMBURG, N.Y. – Hilbert College held its 52nd annual commencement ceremony on May 11 and nearly 275 graduates rejoiced in receiving their degrees. The celebration was heightened by being a part of a historic moment for the Franciscan institution as the college conferred master's degrees for the first time.
Commencement speaker Howard Zemsky, managing partner of Larkin Development Group, said his message to the Class of 2013 focused on "curiosity, humility, community engagement, optimism and leadership."
"If you take yourself too seriously, you will talk too much and listen too little. Make sure you never make the mistake of talking too much and listening too little," Zemsky said. "So, humility and leadership go together. Be a good listener. Be collaborative. Be a participant."
"Community engagement and curiosity go together," Zemsky said. "I want you to earn respect from people because you lead by example and you follow the 'golden rule.' Be humble and open-minded. Don't make the mistake of putting people in little boxes; they have more to offer, just like you do."
Zemsky continued, "Anything worth doing is worth doing well every single day; it is how you plant seeds for your future."
Zemsky, the Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority chairman and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's Western New York economic development expert, is a businessman turned developer whose renovation of a vacant building on Exchange Street – the Larkin Building – is credited with transforming an entire neighborhood. Recently, he was selected in a vote of the Buffalo Niagara leadership community conducted by The Buffalo News as "displaying the most leadership when it comes to moving the region forward."
In addition to the master's degrees, Hilbert President Cynthia Zane, Ed.D., conferred four- and two- year degrees to graduates in the Class of 2013.
She also presented an honorary doctorate to Zemsky. The idea of 'community' is one of the defining features of the Franciscan life. For his commitment and achievements towards building community in the city of Buffalo and Western New York and bringing about what many believed impossible and transforming our community, Hilbert proudly presented Zemsky an honorary doctorate of humane letters.
The 2013 Hilbert College Medal, which is presented to those "who embody Franciscan values, demonstrate excellence in their profession or career, and excellence in community service," was awarded to Vincent O. Hanley, partner at Jaeckle Fleischmann and Mugel, LLC. Hanley served on the Board of Trustees at Hilbert from 2003-12, including two terms as chair.
Top student awards that were presented at Hilbert's 52nd commencement include:
--Lambert and Margaret Graham Award for a full-time returning adult student who has earned the highest cumulative quality point average. Presented to Kristine L. Benz
--Kimberly Bruch Raczkowski Memorial Alumni Association Award for a graduate who reflects the spirit of Hilbert and its mission, and possesses strong leadership skills and demonstrates loyalty and dedication to others. Presented to Jerrell T. Mason
--Sister Mary Edwina Bogel Award to an outstanding female graduate in recognition of her character, intellectual achievement and devoted service to fellow students and the college. Presented to Nina G. Pierino
--John Kissel Man of the Year Award to an outstanding male student in recognition of his character, intellectual progress, organizational ability, and participation in activities and programs. Presented to Jonathan D. Hulbert
Hilbert College, located in suburban Hamburg, N.Y., south of Buffalo, is a private four-year college founded in 1957 in the Catholic Franciscan tradition. With nearly 1,100 students, Hilbert is a dynamic Western New York college that offers career-focused majors, including one of the top criminal justice programs in the region, and more than 50 minors and concentrations. The college's engaging, student-centered campus community offers numerous leadership, internship, and service learning opportunities from which students launch successful careers while making positive changes in their communities. The Hilbert Blueprint promotes a well-rounded student experience over four years – starting with the Foundations Seminar in the freshman year, followed by Sophomore Service, Junior Symposium, and culminating with the Senior Capstone. Hilbert has expanded its academic offerings with the college's first graduate programs and new Accelerated Degree Programs geared to adult learners.
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The German alpinist Robert Jasper has opened an exciting new four-pitch M12 WI5 trad mixed-climb on the Breitwangflue wall above Kandersteg, Switzerland.
Jasper's new route—Ritter der Kokosnuß (Monty Python and the Holy Grail)—is the direct line next to Jasper's Flying Circus (the world's first M10), which he established in 1998 with his wife Daniela.
Jasper had attempted this direct line in a ground-up style for years, but was thwarted by the psychologically demanding effort required to send the crux second pitch.
"The direct line next to Flying Circus had been in my focus for years," writes Jasper. "Ten years ago I opened the first pitch (M9) - characterized by fragile ice structures and loose rock. My personal goal—to climb in trad style—was shattered because it was just too demanding for me back then."
On February 13, Jasper arrived at Breitwangflue with partner Rainer Treppte, and set to work on his mental testpiece, which takes the center line through the grand grotto. Jasper recalls that the demanding first pitch felt like a warm-up, which was a good sign.
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A young basketball star named Charles "Chuck" H. Taylor, who played for the Akron Firestones, chose the Converse All Star as his athletic shoe. Taylor began working for Converse shoes as a salesman and became the "ambassador to basketball" as he traveled around the US promoting basketball and the Converse All Star shoe to high school and college basketball teams.
In 1923, Chuck Taylor's signature was added to the famous All Star ankle patch. The All Star shoe was soon to become known as "Chuck Taylors" a.k.a. "Chucks." Chucks originated as a basketball shoe, and if you look at a basketball court from the 1920's, every player was wearing a pair. Leather shoes, however, were soon to replace canvas on the basketball court, but the shoe found a new life in the fashion world. Today, over 800 million pairs of Chucks have been sold.
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The structure is solid and continuous, and the form, with its strict angles and straight lines, is a stunning addition to the surrounding buildings. In sharp contrast with the crumbling walls of the nearby houses, the structure is a neat grey mass that appears illuminated under sunlight.
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Although it's nearly impossible to predict which breed of dog will live the longest or be the healthiest, there are certain breeds that seem to have lower instances of genetic diseases, bone-related injuries and conditions relating to their skin and coat. Take a look at which breeds are thought to be among the healthiest and how to help your dog live a long, healthy life, below.
Australian Cattle Dog
While there's no way to prove which breed is the healthiest, some working breeds, including Australian Cattle Dogs, may be among those with the least number of health-related issues.
"Unfortunately, there's no hard data that provides a scientific answer," said Jennifer Coates, DVM in Fort Collins, Colorado and veterinary advisor to petMD.com. "In my experience, dogs that are still being bred to do a job tend to be the healthiest."
Australian Cattle Dogs have been traditionally used for cattle herding and have remained popular working dogs because of their intelligence, problem solving skills and soft but assertive bites with cattle. With a lifespan of about 10 to 13 years, Australian Cattle Dogs make excellent companions to high-energy families or on-the-go owners. Major health concerns include hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia and deafness.
Learn more about Australian Cattle Dogs.
Another working breed listed as one of the healthiest by Coates, Foxhounds have been primarily used for foxhunting and, because of their working dog genes, may be healthier than dogs bred for show.
"When breeders focus on function instead of just good looks, they naturally weed out the dogs that develop debilitating illnesses or injuries," Coates explained.
With a lifespan of 11 to 13 years, Foxhounds make an excellent choice for families who live in rural areas or on large farms and are not prone to many major health problems. They require moderate daily exercise in the form of a walk or jog and need minimal grooming aside from an occasional brushing.
Learn more about American Foxhounds.
German Shorthaired Pointer
An all-purpose hunting dog known for its intelligence and proficiency with many different types of game and sport, the German Shorthaired Pointer is another healthy breed, according to Coates. With an average lifespan of 12 to 14 years, German Shorthaired Pointers are prone to health concerns like hypothyroidism, hip dysplasia and gastric torsion. A high-energy breed that requires plenty of daily exercise, German Shorthaired Pointers will need plenty of access to the outdoors and, like all breeds, require mental stimulation throughout the day.
"Providing dogs with mental stimulation, physical exercise and maintaining them at a healthy weight will go a long ways towards keeping any dog healthy, regardless of its breed," Coates shared.
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Border Collie
Another high-energy breed renowned for its agility, intelligence and obedience, Coates lists the Border Collie as one of healthiest. With a lifespan of 10 to 14 years, Border Collies are prone to health problems including seizures and hypothyroidism. A breed that is eager to please with a high level of trainability, Border Collies should be provided with plenty of daily exercise as well as regular access to the outdoors.
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Mixed Breed
With a unique genetic markup and a lower level of inbreeding, mixed breed dogs are generally among the healthiest, Coates said.
"A recent study showed that mix breed dogs were significantly less likely to develop ten genetically based diseases, including some types of heart disease, musculoskeletal problems, allergic skin disease and hyperthyroidism," she added.
Known for being the smallest breed in the world, Chihuahua's are loyal, intelligent, and among the healthiest breeds, according to Denise Petryk, DVM and director of veterinary services at Trupanion pet insurance. With an average lifespan of 14 to 18 years, Chihuahua's are known to suffer from health conditions including hypoglycemia, patellar luxation and pulmonic stenosis, a heart valve disorder. A smooth-coated Chihuahua requires minimal grooming while longhaired varieties require brushing two to three times a week. Because of their size, Chihuahuas require minimal exercise beyond a short walk.
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Compared to other dogs of the same size, Petryk also lists the Havanese among healthy breeds. A popular friendly pet known for its friendly demeanor, Havanese live between 12 to 14 years and suffer from health problems including patellar luxation, deafness and elbow dysplasia. A non-shedding breed that requires brushing several times per week to prevent tangles, the Havanese breed requires short walks to meet their exercise needs.
In addition to keeping your pup fit, Petryk also recommends offering your dog high quality food and treats to help them stay healthy.
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Australian Shepherd
With relatively few claims for bone-related injuries as well as conditions related to the coat and skin, Australian Shepherds are also relatively healthy, according to Petryk. An all-purpose farm dog, Australian Shepherds are intelligent, obedient and agile and require regular exercise and mental stimulation. With an average lifespan of 12 to 15 years, the breed is prone to health issues including hip dysplasia, hypothyroidism and Collie Eye Anomaly, an inherited congenital eye condition. Australian Shepherds require minimal grooming beyond an occasional combing and, as with all dog breeds, Petryk recommends giving your dog regular, high quality flea and tick prevention with products recommended by your veterinarian to maintain its health.
Learn more about Australian Shepherds.
A popular mixed breed that is a cross between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle, Petryk lists Labradoodles among those with relatively few claims for bone-related injuries and conditions related to the coat and skin. The breed's coat should be shampooed and brushed regularly and trimmed at least twice a year. They may suffer from health conditions commonly seen in its parent breeds including hip dysplasia, Addison's disease and eye disorders including progressive retinal atrophy.
To ensure your dog lives a long, healthy life, Petryk recommends establishing a relationship with a veterinarian you like and keeping up-to-date with any preventative vaccinations they suggest. She also advises pet owners to schedule annual physical examinations for their dogs, including dental assessments.
Learn more about Labradoodles.
Siberian Husky
A medium-sized dog renowned for its abilities as a sled and racing dog, the Siberian Husky is relatively healthy compared to other breeds of the same size, Petryk said. While the breed is still used as a working dog, it has also become a loving pet for active families and those who love the outdoors. With a lifespan of 11 to 13 years, Siberian Huskies may suffer from health problems including progressive retinal atrophy, hypothyroidism and cataracts.
In addition to establishing a relationship with a veterinarian you trust, Petryk suggests becoming familiar with you local emergency and specialty hospitals, learning to provide pet first aid and getting pet insurance to prepare yourself in case your dog has a health-related emergency.
Learn more about Siberian Huskies.
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While I can't say I am a fan of "designer" breeds, the labradoodle is a pretty cool looking dog.
We have a 9 year old labradoodle. She is loaded with allergies. Has thyroid problems and occasional incontinence. I don't consider that overly healthy.
When I read the headline of this article ,it said "Healthiest dog breeds " Unless I am mistaken a ladbraddodle is not a dog breed.it is just a high priced mutt.
While I do love mutts ,don't you dare compare the two.
You might want to begin by firing the writers butt and then do a little research!! you morons -
Well first of all, you spelled almost every other word wrong.
Secondly, I think that they were just trying to make a guideline for people looking for a healthy dog to adopt, so it doesn't matter if a labradoodle is a purebred breed of dog or not.
Thirdly, although a labradoodle is not a recognized breed- just a designer hybrid, it does meet the definition of a "breed" of dog. Dog breeds are defined as: "groups of closely related and visibly similar domestic dogs, which are all of the subspecies Canis lupus familiaris, having characteristic traits that are selected and maintained by humans."
Designer dogs are NEVER mutts, technically or otherwise.
I must ask: were you referring to me when you posted: " " Well first of all, you spelled almost every other word wrong "?
If so,please point out my errors .I always enjoy learning.
Secondly, If you have a specific breed, a breed recognized my the AKC and the CKC ,possibly more , then you have a specific breed , when you breed one of thses to another dog with the same credentials you have a mix of the two breeds,neither of which is recognized by AKC CKC etc. that is a mutt.
if it walks like a duck ,quacks like a duck and looks like a duck well,,,,
I look forward to your response
Thanks Watson -
I apologize for saying that. As I look back on the post, I realize that it was not "spelling" that I was referring to, but something more like "crammer". I honestly don't even know why I said that- and I shouldn't have, since it is really not important. As far as I know, a "mutt" is 2 or more breeds. When it is two breeds, to be a "mutt" it would have to be a mix of 2 non-purebred dogs that was NOT the result of breeding (developed by natural selection). A crossbred, or "designer," dog is the mix of two strictly purebred dogs that were intentionally created by humans (developed by artificial selection). However, I'm in no place to argue that a Labradoodle is not a "breed" of dog by any definition. I just wanted to say that a Labradoodle was not a mutt (although I'm sure that at least one unfixed Poodle-ish dog/bitch and Golden Retriever-ish dog/bitch have reproduced without the owner prompting it [or it happening with stay dogs/bitches]). I like Labradoodles, but they certainly aren't very "healthy" dogs-so I'll agree with you that "firing the writer[']s butt and then do[ing] a little research!!" would be a very good idea. Personally, I am a "mutt" person though- I have one that I labeled as a "Bichon Frise" on this site because that's as close as I could get without saying that he was a "mixed breed" (which is a nicer synonym for "mutt"). He looks like a Bichon mixed with a Miniature Poodle, but he's all white and looks much more like a Bichon except for the length of his muzzle and the texture of his tail. He's really just a shelter mix- so I do like mutts, I just don't believe that a Labradoodle is one.
-However, I'm in no place to argue that a Labradoodle *IS* a "breed" of dog by any definition. -
A mutt is a mutt - as in ANY mix breed. Doesn't have to be derogatory, I've had mutts that were absolute gems and worth having, but you don't argue your case by being ignorant or insisting that "labradoodles" are a breed.
I never once said that they were a breed. I said that they were not a mutt. Never claimed a mix to be a breed
Completely illogical again ----
if a dog is not a pedigree, it is a mix - which is a mutt.
Simply a matter of semantics, mutt/mix, SAME THING.
Stop arguing and apply logic. -
Again. If two purebreds were selectively bred by humans, then the result is a "designer" dog. Not a breed, but not a mutt. A mutt was not selectively bred by people, and may have 20 different breeds mixed in.
NO --- the result is a mutt, there is NO such thing as a "designer dog", that is a fake, trumped up designation made up by con artists trying to sell expensive mutts to clueless buyers.
Mutts do NOT breed true - not labradoodles, not any mutt. The whole point of AKC pedigrees is to establish actual breeds that breed true - and that is not done in a couple of generations of careless breeding, it is complicated, difficult, accurate and takes time.
I am NOT a breeder, I rescue. Your adamant, erroneous insistence on a distinct middle point of "designer dog" makes me think YOU might be one of those conning "breeders" of mutts passed off as "designer" dogs.
Labradoodles do not consistently produce the similar characteristics to qualify as a breed. Typically, They are made by using two different breeds. When two breeds are united, it produces a mutt, not a breed. The definition of breed is that they have common ancestors and a consistency of characteristics tics as defined by a kennel club.
There is no in between, it is a pedigree or a mutt/mix.
Pointless arguments and illogic aside, that is the truth of it. -
You are so wrong about so much, it defies logic.
There are no spelling errors in Watson's post and Watson is dead on accurate about what a breed of dog is.
Just because you put 2 AKC breeds together, you do not automatically and magically get a new breed of dog -- you get a mutt - whether it is a mix of 10 breeds or 2.
You are the sort of sorry, misinformed buyer for "designer breeds" and the reason so many scuzzy back yard breeders and puppy mills are in business.
Educate yourself before you criticize others. -
Don't you think that sounds offensive? No one (I encourage you to read our comments, as you will realize that not a single person called a Labradoodle a breed.) is encouraging backyard breeding in these comments. Like, at all. No one said mixes were breeds, we were stating that not all mixes are mutts.
Again, since you seem resistant to the truth --- ALL mixes are mutts -- it's the same thing said with 2 different words.
I don't care if you find my posts offensive because, after rescuing dogs for 20 years and being on the board of a breed rescue for over 12 years, I can say in all honesty, that it is people like you who fudge reality that encourage the over breeding of the poor dogs that end up dying on the streets or euthanized in shelters.
Who do you think breeds mutts??????
It is either money grubbing liars who breed "designer breeds" bought by clueless people who think they have something special, or irresponsible idiots who don't spay/neuter their pets and let them wander and breed more unwanted puppies.
Face it, mixes are mutts, mutts are mixes, and they come from somewhere by the millions - and it isn't from responsible breeders who care about their animals.
Once more, to be plain and get it through to you (if that's possible) a mix is a mutt, period.
No matter if 2 breeds are involved or 20 -- it's a mix breed MUTT. -
I didn't find it offensive, personally, it just sounded like you are uncaring of other people.
"You are the sort of sorry, misinformed buyer for "designer breeds" and the reason so many scuzzy back yard breeders and puppy mills are in business."
And I'll have you know that I'd never. Only mill puppies I've ever had were after the mill was shut down- the over-breed and left-for-dead mothers. I also don't approved of any breeding as of now, we have enough wonderful ones in the shelters that deserve homes just as much as fuzzy over-priced purebred puppies. I find you judgmental, but you'd have to try much harder than that to offend me.
I don't understand why people on this site are so defensive, judgmental, and (in some cases) straight out mean. If I knew if be starting a war instead of a discussion, I'd have found someone else to discuss it with. -
All the back peddling in the world does not change the fact that you stated there were "designer dogs" that are not mutts --- you are WRONG, all mix breeds are mutts.
Your babble about being "nice", etc. don't do a thing to educate people about the sorry plight of all the unwanted dogs that are euthanized every day for lack of homes --- pedigree dogs as well as mutts.
Last thing we need are more "oops" litters of mutts or "designer" hyped mutts.
I don't care if you are offended by the truth, and I sure know you don't help in a shelter or rescue or you would not be posting such absolute drivel.
Educate yourself, be part of the solution, not the problem of unwanted dogs that die for lack of homes. -
That's another thing. Everyone is a know-it-all. I don't help out at rescues and shelters? I sure as hell do.
And no one can handle the idea that they might be wrong. They are right, period. They are right because of the single fact that they SAID they are right.
I never preached about being nice. I believe you were the one tooting your own horn earlier, not me. I simply was refuting the fact that I was "the sort of sorry, misinformed buyer for "designer breeds" and the reason so many scuzzy back yard breeders and puppy mills are in busines". I wasn't preaching about how great I am, I was showing you that you can't throw people under the bus for things that you don't know are true. -
Everyone here is also a know-it-all. For your information, I do volunteer at rescues and shelters.
And no one can bear the thought that they might be wrong. Everyone is always right. Some people are right simply because they SAY that they are right.
I never put on a show of how nice I was. I refuting your statement, that I am not "the sort of sorry, misinformed buyer for "designer breeds" and the reason so many scuzzy back yard breeders and puppy mills are in business." I was never preaching of how great I was, I was trying to show the point that you cannot throw people under the bus for things that you don't know are true. You know what assuming does?
I don't even care about what a breed is anymore. Im sick of the ignorant fast-judging people who feel the need to discredit me by accusing me of awful things I have never done or approved of.
I don't give a firetruck about this. Who even cares? There are many articles with titles with incorrect words in them. No one needed to attack anyone over a bloody definition. -
This is a hilarious conversation! Foodie is 100% right.
Mutt: a mongrel dog
Mongrel: an individual resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds or strains; especially : one of unknown ancestry
Mutt: humorous or derogatory A dog, especially a mongrel:
Mongrel: A dog of no definable type or breed:
While saying that a "designer breed" is a mutt may be inflammatory, it is not wrong. It is inappropriate, however, to judge someone as uncaring because they refuse to give in to the falsity that a "designer breed" is more than a mongrel/mutt. The term is an advertising ploy.
Purebred is reserved for those animals that, when mated, will BREED TRUE. Meaning a majority of the offspring will have similar visual features, size and, often, have a similar temperament.
To be fair, several breeds started out as mutts/mongrels. It took many generations of breeding before the offspring had predictable characteristics. Some St. Bernard Dogs have Newfoundland Dog ancestry. Newfoundlands were used as stock for Leonbergers. There are also some breeds that had to be bred back using other breeds as the line was unstable or the breed was dying out, like the Hovawart.
I, personally, don't support breeding as there are many, many unwanted animals euthanized every day. I, too, do not use the term "designer breed" or crossbred. For me, it's not just a case of backyard breeding. It is also about people needing to have "things/labels" rather than wanting a living/breathing thing for companionship. Does the breed matter so much? I mean, they too could have a "Curbside Setter" if they just went to the pound. It's just as furry, playful and loving as the dog next door.
I am beginning to question humanity's ability to read. I have never, in my entire life, said a designer dog was a purebred. I 100% agree with your definitions, as you can see above. As you would also see, if you read a single word of my comments, I did not call foodie uncaring for not agreeing with me. That's just low. If you can read English, I encourage you to reread. He (or she for all we know) attacked me for not agreeing with him (or her). I cannot believe people who half read things, and then tell me I'm wrong with the proof of the exact things I used in my argument. You seem to have the same views as mine, but in a totally different manner. I read the person who is supposedly opposing me's comments.
Right you are - "labradoodle" is most certainly not a breed, it is a mutt passed off to the clueless as a "designer breed". In other words, a high price mutt for those who will believe anything.
I'm surprised to see the Chihuahua here! Its cool that small dogs are also some of the healthiest!
So I wasted 5 minutes of my life that I shall never get back because you are an idiot ..thanks
As I have already stated , a pup which is the result of two different dog breeds breeding is not a pure bred anything, will always be a mutt and my spelling will always be perfect -
Well "perfect" is an overstatement.
"thses" is not a word, but "these" is
",,,," is not how one does ellipsis, but rather ". . ."
I have never heard of a "labraddodle" but I have heard of a "Labradoodle"
And your grammar still sucks.
I am also sorry for wasting [u]my[/u] time to red-pencil and respond to comments from ignorant people like you. -
Get a life you child.
The only one I see making childish insults and holding on to degenerate standards of pedigree is you, sir.
You make statements railing against the author, and sling off-the-cuff insults that make it clear that you consider "mutts" and "purebreds" to be less than equal. In your world, the only factor that deems a dogs value must be their parentage and their papers; mutts are a nuisance. Well it must be frightening to consider that EVERY dog breed that AKC and CKC raise on a pedestal is in fact MADE-UP. They are invented through years of artificial selection and inbreeding to arrive at a haughty, arbitrary standard, dogs' health be damned.
A little (or rather a lot) of cross-breeding is necessary if we want to keep our most faithful companions happy and healthy, and to hell with your attitude.
I'll take a mutt over a "purebred" any day. -
I'm delighted that you love mutts, so many are put down every year in the U.S. alone for lack of homes that it is a disaster.
HOWEVER, without decent breeders who keep the AKC registered breeds going, there would be NO pedigree dogs at all, something that would be a real shame.
There is room for AKC dogs and for mutts as pets, I've had both and known some wonderful dogs.
I am NOT talking about back yard breeders or puppy mills - those need to be banned, they are hell holes all too often for the poor dogs.
As someone who has been active in rescue for nearly 20 years, I can tell you that BOTH pedigree dogs and mix breeds can be excellent pets.
Decent breeders breed out genetic flaws in the breed, and there are certainly enough of ANY breed to do that, inbreeding is the fault of back yard breeders and puppy mills, not of good breeders who show their dogs and breed for the good of the breed.
A mutt can inherit the faults of the breeds as well as the healthy genes - it is a crap shoot every time.
You need to get over your prejudice against pedigree dogs, it's not a matter of them "being on a pedestal", ALL dogs deserve a good home.
Lauding mix breeds, who are largely the results of unthinking "oops" litters is a major contribution to overpopulation of dogs, resulting in the euthanasia of literally millions every year in this country alone.
Go help rescue some of those mutts - or pedigrees - instead of spouting nonsense. -
I believe it was " ladbraddodle "
Sad to say you are the one who is terminally ignorant, not Watson.
I know you said you love learning new things so let me help you out a little. You are only half right. A Labradoodle (or any designer breed) is not a purebred... for now anyways. However, it is not a mutt/mongrel. It takes 5 seconds to research this if you wish. You seem to be confusing crossbreed with mutt. And yes, they are different. And yes, it is annoying when people have a designer breed and brag that it is purebred. I believe these people want to justify paying $1000 for a crossbreed (notice I didn't say mutt).
I hardly consider Gastric Torsion & seizures MINOR health problems!
Katie will be 14 Sept.1 2014. She has slowed down now with arthritis in her hips that is treated with glucosamine. Unfortunately she has become very shy and fearful of any noise and she now suffers from seperartion anxiety. She sleeps with me every nite and has done so since I first rescued her when she was. almost 3 months old. I dread the time when she is no longer here with me but I know that she has had a good life. last Monday her buddy Santana my 5 yr. old cat had a massive stroke and had to be put asleep so Katie and my other 5 cats miss him terribly and so do we.
There are so many breeds you missed that have fewer genetic anomalies and longer lived. I am greatly disappointed to see you use a designer mutt and mixed breeds as being healthy choices! There are rare breeds that are so much more healthy then those you used, even with their limited gene pools.
Irish Terriers, Sealyham Terriers & Cairn Terrier come to mind very quickly.
Support the breeds and breeders who do genetic testing and health screening BEFORE breeding!!
Go to a good breeder who does genetic testing, breeds for the betterment of the breed -- or go adopt a dog from a shelter or rescue.
That's it, no other decent choice if you care about dogs. -
well that should make you very nervous.. when a vet does not know what a breed of dog is.. you should never believe anything they say. Dr Coates has for years been an animal rights supporter who believes that no one should breed a dog on purpose, She supports the ASPCA/HSUS/PETA factory fundraising machine when ever she can. and encourages people to buy their dog at the local shelters instead of from a good breeder. The best way to keep dogs OUT of shelters is to buy one from a good breeder. When a vet says "mixed breeds" are healthier run the other way
I just adopted an Australian Shepard mix. I don't know what the other breed is but I'm glad to see she is listed as one of the healthiest breeds.
It's clear that nothing scientific has been presented here. Not sure where or how the breeds were chosen. It's hard for me to believe that anyone could think that adding to the health issues of a breed by adding another health issue breed is going to produce good health. The reason mixed breeds are said to be healthier is because there are little to no records. Pure breeders keep records. Designer breeds are there to dupe the public and boy does that work well. They get something different and special. But the truth about the labradoodle is that only 25% of a given litter can be hypoallergenic, 50% is partially hypo allergenic! and 25% is a full shedding dog. You won't necessarily know which type you have until the adult coat comes in between 6-9 months. Most of them I've seen in the grooming shop were hyper. When people have to deal with the coat which needs to be groomed every six weeks like a poodle( not twice a year), and find out it sheds too... The poor dog ends up in a shelter. It's also a cool idea for backyard breeders and puppy millers to make fast money. So they get abused coming into and out of this life.
absolutely true and very sad to see vets push such nonsense..maybe they are looking for new clients
all i want to say is there seems to be a lot snobbery over what is & is not considered qualified to be a actual breed by the AKC....get your heads out of your asses here people do some internet research for yourself & look back at the history of these breeds that have natural abilities that were targeted for supreme breeding....they have in fact damaged the natural health & genes of these canine breeds due to trait specific breeding to get the most out of certain natural abilities or looks & qualities specific to certain breeds with the intention of upholding the best overall requirements set by who other than breeders themselves who feel they are the representation of the breed should be.... over the last several decades most of these breed specific health related ailments are caused because of severe over breeding of a specific breed or genus of animal for trait specific gains....50yrs ago most of these health ailments of certain breeds did not even exist such as cherry eye, seizures, ( pardon the spelling ) hip displaysia & even being born brachiasyphalis (unable to get the proper amount of oxygen to the brain to support its functions) leaving these certain breeds almost horrifically altered & different from what was considered "in their prime" in the history of each & every breed & it is very very sad & irreversible & disgusting that we have created these health problems for mans best friend in the quest to improve & perfect certain traits of particular breeds so please stop being all high & mighty that the AKC is the standard of supreme cause those are the exact regulations & requirements strived towards by some breeders that have ruined the very bloodlines they set out to perfect & improve on what may have already been at some point or another perfect standards for the breed....