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Prehaps the Kurds are finally being allowed their right to self determination.
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Prehaps the Kurds are finally being allowed their right to self determination.
Now that Syrian Arabspringers are ready to form new government. The Kurdish People's Defense Units exploited the vacuum that conquered Assad's Regime created to secede and form Kurdish Bluff in Northeast Syria. Syrian Kurds are neither Arabspringers nor Activists. Kurds distracting spoilers. Kurds eye Syria's 2.5 billion barrels of crude oil proven reserves. Idiots never learn. Welcome to Hydrocarbon terror. Now dumb down, Stupendous! Hold your breath, shut-up, sit down & listen to the Anglosexual Legends of the GoogledJunk, the WikiTrash, the Mayhem, and the thesaurus exhausted Misinformation mainstreaming-media whoresmanure Reuters' Alexander Dziadosz; Editing by Kevin Liffey. Your discretion is advised: At least 56 people have been killed in a week of fighting in northeast Syria between anti-government rebels and members of the long-oppressed Kurdish minority who have seized on the civil war to try to secure self-rule, activists said on Tuesday. The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which collates reports on Syria's violence from local activists, said on Tuesday that the anti-Damascus rebels were using tanks and mortars on Tuesday against Kurdish forces. In a separate incident, it said at least 42 people including women and children had been killed when a car bomb targeting a pro-government militia went off on Monday evening in the town of Salamiyah, east of the central city of Hama. With Arab rebels entangling government forces to the west and south, the Kurds, who make up around 10 percent of the population, have exploited the vacuum to set up the Kurdish schools and cultural centers long denied them under Baath party rule, as well as police and armed militias. But they have remained at arm's length from the increasingly Islamist-dominated mostly Sunni Arab rebels, fearing that these would not honor the autonomy aspirations of a region that holds a significant part of Syria's estimated 2.5 billion barrels of crude oil reserves. On Tuesday, fighters of the Kurdish People's Defence Units clashed with several rebel groups in the city of Ras al-Ain in Syria's northern Hasaka province, the Observatory said. "The clashes erupted (last) Wednesday ... and (have) resulted in the deaths of at least 56 fighters," the group said. The fighting is one of many sectarian or ethnic fault lines that have prevented the emergence of a single coherent movement to try to oust President Bashar al-Assad since insurgents took up arms after the government cracked down on peaceful protests in March 2011. Since then, the conflict has become a full-scale civil war in which more than 60,000 people have been killed, 650,000 pushed to flee the country and well over a million made homeless within Syria. A video posted online showed men and women gathering around a street strewn with rubble at what the Observatory said was the site of the blast in Salamiyah. It said some of the wounded were in critical condition. The state news agency SANA said the blast had been caused by a suicide bomber and that 25 people had been killed. Reuters cannot verify such reports from inside Syria because the government severely limits access for independent media. Am amused how Reuters so bold to publish others misery as News and yet its Reuters worst nightmare if the same news is questioned. Argument is strictly forbidden on planet Reuters.
Kurds are searchng for a way to reach to the sea.In Iraque they control part of the petroluem fields,but they can't sell it.To the south and west of Iraque they are surrounded by Iran and Iraque Arabs.At north they have been in war war for the last 35 years.That leaves only Syrian way to reach Mediterraneon Sea.There, they are trying to push the Arabs to the south.On the other hand Kurdish tribes are in war with each other.There is only one way out of this mess.Kurdish terrorists must make a truce with Turkey, transfer and sell their petroleum and share the benefits with other Kurds,Arabs and Turks.But,their leader is in prison in Turkey and there is not any body else who can bring them together.It will take a long time for them to solve the problem.
I'm a Kurd from Iraq and don't have any problem with understanding Kurds from Central Asia (Anatolia, Kurds form Khorasan, Kurds from Iran, Iraq, Syria and especially from Turkey. I speak the same accent as it is spoken in Turkey around Diyarbakir (Amed) and Cizire.
There are two linguistic theories. 1) A universal theory based on scientific evidence that Kurdish (with its dialects) is a distinct Indo-European Language, traced back to Median Empire, Avesta and ancient Iranian Languages. 2) A Turkish theory based on Kemalism that states sometimes there is no Kurdish language (Turkish of mountains), or sometimes a recently developed language in the middle east.
About the historic demography of the region, there are also 2 theories. 1) The first universal (scientific) one states that, Anatolia was almost completely Indo-European, with the east part Muslim Indo-Europeans (Kurds) and Armenians (Christians), and the western part dominantly Christians (Greeks and other extinct people). Later, starting form 700 year before and until the start of the 20th century, gradually the western part of Anatolia converted to the non-Indo-European Muslim Turkic. The process of converting the eastern part is still actively continuing. 2) The Turkish (Kemalist) theory indicates that many thousand years ago the Turks exist in Turkey, though other people also came and lived beside the original Turks of Anatolia, even (Turkey) is a very old terminology in some historic sources replaced by Anatolia and/or Kurdistan.
The question is "Which theory is more popular?", "Which theory is true?". Unfortunately, the power always shows itself as the truth.
Sorry, I ment Asia minor (Anatolia), not Central Asia.
Sorry, I ment Asia minor (Anatolia), not Central Asia.
Turks keep talking about diversity of Kurdish dialects or that some speak Turkish to communicate with fellow Kurds. This should be something for them to be ashamed of.It is the symptom of oppression and forbidding them to speak their language even at home for decades. When the hostile states plan to melt others instead of respecting and protecting their culture then some will fall victim naturally but no one will ever erase their origins and blood.
The state tyranny in Iraq was halted earlier than in Turkey by pure coincidence at the beginning of last century when Kurdistan was split among wolves. Nevertheless, there are some Kurds in Iraq or Syria who fell victims and speak Arabic only in some Arab cities. Probably more so in Turkey side.
Turks are unashamedly hostile to the very existence of Kurds. So are Arabs and even Persians with different levels of inherent hostility. They all need to learn to respect others who are different, to protect them and to be proud of them as part of their given states. Otherwise it is unrealistic that there will be peace just as it is unrealistic thus far to have united free Kurdistan liberated from wolves.
Why not break Syria and Iraq along ethnic lines? Why not divide Iraq into Basra, Baghdad and Mosul states?
And why should Syria be governed by an Alawite minority?
Ethnic groups governing other ethnic groups is a recipe for violence.
Why is any of that your business? Who are you to decide how people you have never met live?
The Germans to the front! A real nice place to put german soldiers into...
(Nearly all parties in the german parliament agree to send Patriot missile defence systems to the Turkish-Syrian border to protect their turkish ally.)
From what I've understood, in long term, Turkey will be losing a lot in this conflict and Kurds are taking another step toward an independent state covering east of Turkey, north of Iraq and Syria. I think eventually Turkey's plans will backfire. Supporting salafists is a suicidal act for modern turkey where Islamists are gaining power.
The Economist writes:
"Correction: This post originally mistakenly referred to Syria's 2m-odd Kurds. There are around 3m of them. This has been corrected. Sorry."
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Perhaps the Economist might also indicate how many of the Kurds in Syria are not odd, such that the total number of Kurds might be determined by summation?
I think you and the other Turks are being unfair to the Economist's Armenian correspondent. That reflects your anti-Armenian approach.
This is a fair article.
i think your comment is the reflection of sarcasm and irony when it comes to this ''journalist''.
the person with such background writes about Turkey, and some people expect her to be fair.
Do you think if the economist could hire a taliban or pakistani person to be correspondent for usa? before to answer, just remember what mr. obama was/is subject to.
Hell is loose in Turkey and you would expect a serious newspaper to report about it.
All the readers of the Economist get, week in, week out, is this stuff about Kurds. You would think that is what Turkey is all about.
Seems this is an easy was of making money and pretending to be important.
The only thing to add to your comment is that if no one stands up, such people like the current one will fill up the gap; and it will do more damage than the event.
I do not know what convinced the economist to hire the one at first; but each one of her articles proves on what condition she is hired; and i am pretty sure that she, like yasemin çongar, will definitely be marked as ''journalist''.
As you know in turkey nowadays terrorists are free and in every where even in parliament, but whoever loves this country or ready to shed blood for the love of it is now in prison or about to; what i mean is that nowadays nearly everything black seems white and anyting white seems black; like AKP members seems turk, but actually arab.
again i want to ask, Do you think if the economist could hire a taliban or pakistani person to be correspondent for usa? before to answer, just remember what mr. obama was/is subject to.
The British were able to build and run a World empire with their ability of knowing which foreign person to use to serve their interests.
I personally find it disappointing that they are effectively ignoring all events in Turkey except the Kurdish issue, which despite all the noise is an issue of a marginal group.
Leaves me thinking what of all we read is the truth.
In reply to "Keko's" response to "Curate's Egg's" comment below: You state that "Greeks didn't live in Anatolia for millenia... " "Istanbul was originally Thracian..." Talk about cognitive dissonance! Your historical pronouncements are news to everyone in the world who ever took a high-school level history course. It may be shocking news to you to learn that the Greeks not only lived in Anatolia (a Greek name) for over 2,500 years, but that it was also the cradle of Hellenism...ever hear of Ionians, Pontians, Cappadocians? How about the Byzantines? You can't stick a shovel in the ground in what is today Turkey without hitting a remnant of Hellenic (or Armenian, or Assyrian) culture. As for Istanbul (also derived from the Greek "eis tin poli" / "to the city"), it was founded by Greek colonists from Megara in 657 B.C. Also, you say you could easily bring up the populations of Turks living in Thrace who were forcefully deported--thanks to the Lausanne Treaty, which also saw 1.5 million Greeks forcefully deported from Anatolia. However, the Greeks honored the treaty, which is why there is still a 150,000-strong Turkish minority in Greek Thrace who were exempt from the exchange; meanwhile, the Greeks of Istanbul who were were supposed to also be exempt and who numbered 250,000 at the treaty's signing now number 2,500, due to state persecution and pogroms. Now, shall we discuss the fate of Turkey's Armenians, or do you want to deny that they lived in Anatolia for millenia, too?
There are around 1 million West Thracian Turks. Only 150 000 are left in Greek occupied Western Thrace.
That is how Greece "respects" treaties.
"Greek-occupied Western Thrace?" "1 million West Thracian Turks?" With those statements alone, you reveal Turkey's true expansionist intentions. Regarding the figure you provided, I think you must be confusing the tens of thousands of illegal Muslim immigrants Turkey allows to slip over the Greek border every year in an attempt to further destabilize Greek society. By the way, my grandmother and her family were from Saranda Ekklesia (Kirklareli) in Eastern Thrace, where there was a Greek majority. Per the Lausanne Treaty, they were relocated to what became Greek Thrace. Your attempt to show that Greece has not honored the Lausanne Treaty is laughable. There is a thriving historic Muslim minority--some Turkish, some Pomak, some Roma--in the northeast of Greece, where there are over 300 active mosques. These are the descendants of those Muslims exempted from the population exchange. if you've every been to Xanthi or Komotini, or Echinos, where the skylines are dominated by minarets, you'd know it. You can't honestly compare that to the Greek Orthodox community in Istanbul, which thanks to successive attempts by the Turkish government, has become an ethnic boutique of 2,500 mostly elderly souls, from 250,000 in 1923.
My grandmother and her family were from Hania on Crete, which was a Moslem majority town. In fact Crete had a Moslem majority at the beginning of the 19th century.
I don't have a high opinion of the state which did that.
Only after that was done, and Greece tried to the same on Cyprus were the Greeks citizens living in istanbul sent away.
Cretan Muslims were sent to Turkey per the Lausanne Treaty as well. It was a sad and unnatural uprooting of people from their ancestral homes going both ways--the governments of Greece and Turkey both agreed to do this. If you don't have a a high opinion of the state which did that, than you must have a low opinion of both Turkey and Greece. As for the Istanbul Greeks, they were treated to the notorious Varlik Vergisi tax during the 1940's, when great amounts of their individual and community wealth and properties were confiscated by the state; and then there was the Istanbul Pogrom of 1955. Both of these decimated their numbers, and both predate intercommunal conflicts on Cyprus. Nice try.
If you would look upCretan Moslems in the Wikipedia. you would see that by the time of the Lausanne treaty most Cretan Moslems had already been deported or murdered.
Those who did reamin were so badly treated by the Greeks that they begged the Ankara government to be relocated. This was one of the main reasons for the population exchange arranged at the Lausanne treaty.
@ keko again,
Kurdish language has several dialects: Kurmanji is the main one followed by Sorani and there few others(Zazeki, Faili, Hawrami, ...etc). Part of south kurdistan speaks Kurmanji(Duhok,Zakho,
Amadiya, Akra, Sinjar...), the rest speak sorani. Kurmanji is also spoken in north west of Iran so these two dialects do not follow the artificial borders as you imagine or claim. You need to correct your twisted mind to these simple facts.
As to difficulty of communications: yes indeed I would not understand some words from fellow Kurd in North Kurdistan when he uses those imposed turkish words just as he would not understand any arabic contamination of my kurmanji. It is those systems governing us that try to melt us but they can never succeed.
Both kurds in Syria and Iraq have their kurdish contaminated by arabic words and so can communicate fully. I regularly watch various kurdish tv stations and it is great to have most kurds now fully committed to full independence from arrogant filthy police states that happened by sheer luck to have those map borders. Kurds will never give up their zest for freedom and never had. You need to read about the hundreds of uprisings in all four sections of Kurdistan.
In fact you are doing us good by exposing your filthy hatred and I for one would believe now much more that in Turkey the only way to achieve freedom is by force as I don't expect somebody like you to come to their senses without some blows on their noses.
@ keko,
Just one simple question to every Arab: You use to say Barzani is an agent... well if he is not will you respect Kurds?
And a simple question to Turks: You say PKK is terrorist, if they were not would that matter to your sick perception of Kurds.
Certainly all of you are just hate mongers, arrogants and trying
desperately to justify your sick mentality.
Um, Barzani is an agent genius. Currently, he's an agent of the US, Israel, EU, and, sort of, of Russians/Iran/Syria.
He used to be an agent of Turkiye.
If he wasn't an agent, he wouldn't support foreign imperialism or wage terrorism against Sunni Muslims. But he does, so it is clear that he is.
Why has he not told the PKK to stop using Northern Iraq a base yet?
It's hilarious how the kurds are entirely dependent on the US, who used every lie to invade and occupy Iraq and Afghanistan. Therefore, Turkiye is justified in carrying out a legitimate operation against Northern Iraq which gives haven to PKK terrorists.
Of course, the PKK are terrorists. If they were not? Well, then they wouldn't be the PKK, now would they?
It has nothing to do with our "perception of kurds". Just stop being the willing terrorist pawns of others.
Your army went to mount Qandil several times and failed. So why didn't you stop PKK then ask Barzani to do that for you.
Barzani will not shoot his own foot anyway because all kurdish parties agree on freedom of Kurdistan and I hope he will not fall into the trap of Turkey, the trap of luring kurds to fight each other.
We kurds love dance, music, our country and our leaders. I don't care with whom Barzani sides as long as he is doing that for the sake of kurds all over kurdistan.
And you talk about sunni muslims, Israel. You must be blind, Turkey is crying to join EU, was first to embrace Israel...just shut it please.
We Kurds view islam with respect but don't like others to use as tool to suppress us. If islam and muslims do not respect our ethnic rights then islam is going to vanish in kurdistan.
Kurds need to weigh in their options very well here the regime is going down the Fsa is not going to liberate the city and then hand it over to you you either fight with the FSA AND then can claim the town or leave ITG alone once its liberated
I am not surprised by your deep hatred to kurdish identity and kurds struggle for freedom from artificial borders that put them with their enemies who behave as occupiers. I just want to comment on your remarks on language. I am from south kurdistan and speak Kurmanji, the very same dialect across Turkey, Syria and part of Iran and I have no difficulty whatsoever understanding every word from fellow kurds in Turkey or Syria or Iran. I also speak Sorani and they are the closest dialects of any language word by word. Yet the turkmen in Kirkuk speak a dialect of Turkey that you will never understand yet you claim their turkishness. Just watch your hatred to kurdish identity. It reminds me of Mosul Arabs who used to say the origin of kurds is from the devil (Shaytan). When would you learn to respect your neighbours.
guest-ljjasai, my handle is "Keko Cruncher", not "Keko".
I don't have a deep hatred for kurdish idenity because I don't care enough about it to hate it, nor is there any "kurdish identity" for me to hate.
The kurds aren't "struggling for freedom". They've been afforded freedom by the groups who have allowed them to live on their land for centuries. They are nothing but the willing pawns of local and foreign imperialist actors against each other.
Arificial borders? If you don't like them, we can go back to the previous arrangement where it all belonged to the Turks.
There is no such thing as "south kurdistan". What you're referring to is Northern Iraq.
You say you're from Northern Iraq but mention the kurdish "dialect" of the Kurds in Turkiye. Well, of course you understand them. You speak there language, not that of the kurds in Iraq, Sorani.
If you speak "Sorani", the language of kurds in Iraq, then that's because you also speak that separate language.
I'm sorry but for you to suggest that they are close and for us to take your word for it is just dishonest.
There are reports that PKK terrrorists actually teach kurds they've recruited from Syria or Iraq or Iran in how to speak Turkish because they have so much difficulty in speaking with them.
I understand the Turkmen in Turkmenistan hundreds of miles away just fine. I have seen Turkmen from Syria and I have understood their language just fine. I imagine it would be the same for Turkmen in Iraq.
Turkic language are among the most mutually coherent in the world. A Turk, Azeri, or Turkmen can probably understand each other pretty easily. You could probably get by right away in Uzbekistan too. A speaker of Turkish/Azeri/Turkmen could become a native speaker of North Turkic langauges (Tatar, Kazakh) just by living with them for a month and the grammar is already the same.
In contrast, and this is just not my opinion, Kurds in Turkiye cannot even undestand each other so they hilariously use Turkish as their langauge of speach for when they're conducting their Turk-hating sessions.
I can't blame the Arabs of Mosul for thinking you are descended from Satan. The willingness of kurds to prostitute themselves to the foreign murderers of Muslims is quite startling.
But I guess when you're a confused bunch of assimilated Armenians and Arabs, you don't leave a lot of room for moral scrupples.
The "kurdish" ethnic group and "kurdish" nationalism are the inventions of 19th century european imperialists. Read christopher dickey's "bordering on insanity". The "kurds" in Turkiye, iraq, syria, and iran are all genetically dissimiliar and liguistically incoherent. The reality is that they are iranic offshouts from india who have always lived on other people's land. Even then the kurds in northen iraq have haplogroup J in frequencies of higher than 40 % making them more Arab than some Arabs. The kurds in Turkiye didn't even inhabit Eastern Anatolia until the Ottoman sultan defeated the Persian shah and gave a large amount of land to a kurdish servant of his. Historically, the "kurds" defined their allegiance by tribe, faith, or the nation to which they were stealing the culture from. Even kurdish nationalists admit that one-hundred years ago "kurdish" was mostly Turkish, Persian, and Arabic.
Kurdish nationalism are inventions of 19th century? Where does these lies come from?
Kurdish nationalism existed way before 19th century, our poetic father Ehmede Xani who were promoting Kurdish nationalism and wrote down masterpieces as Mem U Zin lived way before 19th century. Just check in google and enjoy while I reveal your arguments as lies.
Genetically dissimiliar? Can you give me some facts about the genetic test that was made on kurds and on which hospitals these tests were made? I am a medical student and quite interested in that field, and if you have no facts backing your words up you should stop with your lies.
Linguistically incoherent? It is called dialects like in Swedish language they have dialect in southern and northern Sweden but a central swedish language due having their own state. We kurds do not have our own central state so we can not teach out children the central language that the state would be using.
Iranic offshouts from india who always lived on other peoples land? That sounds more like the turkish hordes that moved like nomads from inner Mongolia, not kurds.
Kurds have always lived in Kurdistan for thousands of years, they are even mentioned during Alexander the greats campaign against the persian empire. Once again your being proved wrong.
Can you show me some results made about the kurds in iraq having different genetic backround compared to other kurds?
Kurds inhabited northern Kurdistan long time before Turks even existed, the lands were not given to us, it was taken from us. Proof of that lies in history, Merwani dynasti is one example.
I am a kurdish nationalist and I do not admin that Kurdish was mostly turkish, persian or arabic, if that was the case then kurds would not have their own traditions or their own language.
And 100 years ago, Constantinople was half-Greek. What's your point?
If you want to go by what may or may not have been the case 100 years ago, maybe we should have millions of Greeks settle back in Turkey again, as they have done for millenia?
Bahram "Alexander" (LOL) Osmanov ("-ov"? LOL), it's no lie. It's the truth. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2006/10/04/bordering-on-insanity.html
There's no "Ehmede Xani". His name was Ahmed Khani. Dear lord, where did you get that revisionist kurdish nationalist spelling of his name? His name is blatantly a pan-Islamic name, Ahmed, combined with a Turkic word for a king, Khani. That made up name you wrote is historical revisionism for the sake of historical revisionism. Unbelievable. Ahmed becomes "Ehmede" and Khani becomes "Xani"? LOL, yeah sure. LOL! By the way this writer had nothing to do with any type of nationalism at all. He was an Islamic poet, writer, imam, and philosopher. What is your point? So because there was some guy who was allegedly a kurd in the 17th century it means that kurdish nationalism wasn't invented by 19th century European/Russian imperialists? Who are you kidding? OK then, let me do you one better. Because there were Turkic kindgdoms in the heart of Europe right by the Roman empire in the 4th century AD, including the Huns and Avars, that means that Turkish nationalism predates kurdish nationalism by WAAAAAAAAAY more. I mean that's your logic right?
Look up research into Y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups and you'll see a great deal of genetic studies including summaries on Wikipedia showing the large Semitic ancestry of Kurds in Iraq which make a stark contrast to the kurds in Turkiye who resemble Afghans. So you're that "medical student" in Poland who talks about nonsense he has no idea about? There are facts upon facts backing this up, many of which I have not even glanced my eyes on yet. I offer you to look at it yourself but warn that you not do so if you have a faint heart. If you want to go into this in more detail, just say so and I'll spell it out for you. If you want me to spell it out for you, kurdish males in Northern Iraq have a whopping frequency of Y-DNA haplogroup J of 40 %. However, for kurds in Turkiye, this is 7 %? Why such a big difference? Kurds in Turkiye have a higher frequency of R1a and G, hinting at being largely assimilated Armenians or South Asian ancestry.
Yes, I know what dialects are. However, dialects are not as dissimilar as the so-called "dialects" of "kurdish" are. It's plainly obvious that it's a forced grouping of several iranic ethnic groups often of differing backgrounds and admixture from other ethnic groups. This is in stark contrast to the closeness of different Turk languages. I've seen foreigners who study Turkish remark that if the so-called "dialects" of kurdish, aren't different languages, then there's only dialects of Turkish, not different Turkish languages.
Yes, the iranic core of the ethnic groups grouped together in the ethnic group known as "kurds" are not native to the Middle East. I have had kurdish nationalists admit this to me that kurds are from India and I'm not afraid to use it against you now. There were no kurds living in the Middle East outside of Iran before the 7th century. Most of the kurds living within the modern borders of Turkiye are the descendants of the kurdish settlers invited by the Ottoman sultan.
"Mongolia"? Ah yes, your kurdish nationalism is of course an invention of foreign imperialists and supported by Greeks/Armenians/Russian who produce the same propaganda so naturally you repeat it. The Turks are from Central Asia. Mongolians are another part of a rich Altaic spectrum that stretches from Europe to East Asia. However we have owned the larger part of the Middle East for the larger part of the last millennium. Relatively recent kurdish land-robbers cannot say the same. I would remind you that the Europeans/Americans/Russians who the kurds receive all their support from have occupied the Americas and much of Eurasia within the last few centuries compared to the Turks who held dominion over the Middle East over the last millennium.
Kurds have NOT lived in the Middle East for thousands of years. Your so-called mention in the campaigns of Alexander the Great is a completely unrelated ethnic group that has nothing to do with the kurds. It has been regularly established that it is the sad attempt of kurds to create an ancient root for themselves in the Middle East where they have none.
There's no such thing as "kurdistan", north, south, east or west, nor has there ever been nor will there ever be. If you want me to spell it out for you, kurdish males in Northern Iraq have a whopping frequency of Y-DNA haplogroup J of 40 %. However, for kurds in Turkiye, this is 7 %? Why such a big difference? Kurds in Turkiye have a higher frequency of R1a and G, hinting at being largely assimilated Armenians or South Asian ancestry.
The kurds do not have their own language or own culture. It's largely ripped off, including their genetic background, from other ethnic groups.
You have census data to back up your assertion that 100 years ago, ISTANBUL (not dead name Constantinople) was "half-Greek"?
So much cognitive dissonance you reveal by suggesting such things. Incredible that the Turks were able to hold the city for centuries with a half-Greek population? What happens to the assertions that the Greek population was massacred when it was conquered in 1453? I guess the Turks certainly were the most tolerant of empires then?
I could easily bring up the populations of Turks living in Thrace who were forcefully deported.
Greeks didn't live in Turkiye for "milleinia". There were indigenous groups who they massacred when they occupied their land including Thracians, Hittites, Lydians, Colchians.
In fact, Istanbul was originally Thracian land before it was Greek land.
So you see, if you go back far enough, there's somebody before you.
The Kurds in Iraq are the closest they have ever been to running their own nation and so far they are doing a great job considering they are hemmed by countries that don't share their aspirations and still forced to stay within Iraq.
Turkey has every right to protect its border and run the affairs in its own county; however it is hubris to think that the Kurds in Syria are not going to get something along the lines of Iraqi Kurdistan.
Assad's regime is on its way out and Turkey not only wants this but should be prepared for the very real prospect that the Syrian Kurds will organise along the lines of Iraqi's Kurds and control the Syrian/Turkish border.
It is in Turkey's best interest that they have the best relations possible.
How are the kurds in Iraq "doing a great job"? Economic growth is stagnant despite trillions of dollars of foreign investment and the American economy being destroyed to set up a kurdish terrorist entity in Northern Iraq. It's largely a dictatorship where a few people connected to Barzani's family run everything.
Why is it "hubris" to think that kurds are not going to get anything? What have kurds done to deserve getting anything? Tell me.
There's no such thing as "kurdistan", iraqi or otherwise, nor has there ever been nor will there ever be.
LOL, kurds control the Syrian/Turkish border? Hey, genius, you realize that the kurds are interspersed between Turkmen, Sunni Arabs, and Alawite Arabs along the Syrian/Turkish border. Never mind that kurds can only be said to be concentrated along a small part of it, why should kurds get any of it, let alone all ofit?
No, it is NOT in Turkiye's best interest to have relations with this terrorist rabble.
Erdogan insanely provides water and electricity to Northern Iraq. He doesn't close the Habur border gate.
Do the kurdish terrorists in Northern Iraq make any attempt to close the PKK? NO!
And you're forgetting that throughout all of this, that Syria is a base for PKK terrorists who attack Turkiye and murder children.
If the US can make nonsensical invasions of countries thousands of miles away from it (Afghanistan or Iraq), then we have every right to intervene in Syria which has been Turkish land for the better part of the last millenium.
Ignoring your blatant lies; simply put, the Kurds will be living on Turkey's border. Whether in autonomous regions or independent countries, Turkey will be dealing with Kurdish governments.
Syria isn't now part of Turkey, so dwelling on the past isn't changing the future.
The Kurds aren't going anywhere.
The Turks aren't going anywhere either. Whether in autonomous regions, or independent countries or as minority citizens of Arab countries, Kurds will be dealing with the Turks, who are the most powerful of all Islamic states.
Dwelling on your hopes is not changing the future.
Another A.Z classic; many words on the name of journalism, but no proof to believe.
if Turkey let the flow of weapon into syria; even though The turkish government rejected those claims repeadetly, where is you proof? The turkish govenrment forced the leadership and the main base of FSA for relocation outside turkey when turks started to complain about anykind of military help. however, your article says otherwise; but on what purpose?
PKK is not a in a war or any kind of war; the pkk is a terrorist organisation; as such is seen by many countries in the world, they kidnap teachers, politicians, imams etc, they kill civilians and soldiers by bombs, they kill civilians in buses by burning them alive, and you call them a war. that organisation also finances its attack by smuggling human and drug into europe; however, as always, you just try to use anything without mentioning the truth in order to support your thoughts; and i wonder what motivates you to act like that.
here is a simple proof about your ''journalism'':
PYD means in kurdish ''Partiya Yekîtiya Demokrat'', in english ''Democratic Union Party''; however, you call them ''the Syrian Democratic Union Party''.
Turkey is just one of several players in the chessboard of Syria. It is not white Vazir vs black Vazir of classical chess. It is Red Vazir of Turkey, the Black Vazir of Sunni Arabs and the Green Vazir of Shiites.
The question here is not what color are the Kurdish pieces. The question is whether the Kurds have a Vazir or they are pawns and bishops of other colorful red/black/green Vazirs on the board, and some Kurds becoming red, some black and some green pawns.
Pawn mentality vs Vazir mentality differentiates the current Kurdish leaders from each other. Syria is a big regional threat which can turn into a historical opportunity for the Kurds in the region. It is not easy to declare a Kurdish independent state, but it may be easier to merge Iraq and Syria and by exchange of Kurdish and Arab lands, create one Arab dominant (greater Syria) country (south of 36N and West of Tigris) and one Kurdish dominant country, i.e a shrinked Iraq (east of Tigris )+ Kurdish lands in Syria). For this, the Kurdish Vazir needs to make a deal with the Sunni Arabs Vazir. Turkey is not in a position to offer such a deal, but can act as a catalizor for the process.
The focus here is Syria, but there are other possible configurations out of mergers and creation of two dominant states (one Kurdish). Consider the merger of Iraq and Iran and creation of two states. The merger of Iraq and Saudi Arabia and the transfer of Arab lands of Iraq to Saudi Arabia.
If Ankara is like the regional anchor, Kurdistan is now the strategic "pivot area"(1) and the heartland of the middle east.
[1] The Geographical Pivot of History", by Halford John Mackinder,
Royal Geographical Society, 1904.
Ottoman Turkey can't stop meddling with its neighbour's affairs. Turkish F16s have been bombing Kurds for the last 12 months and Turkey has the audacity to label anyone else a terrorist!
Ottoman Turkey has been arming the radical Islamists among which many are associated with Al-Qaeda, and has been sending them to attack Syria.
Ottomans can never change.
If the Turks were wise, they would sieze the opportunity to make friends with a group of Kurds who loudly proclaim that they are not allied with the PKK. But alas, they seem to be working at driving the PYD into the PKK's arms. Whatever are they thinking?
1. Honestly, I don't think we're missing an opportunity because everything around and about kurdism has a foul smell to it. I really don't want anything to do with it. It has no historical place in the Middle East. It's been proven time and time again to be the tool to push Western/Russian geopolitics on the region. ENOUGH.
2. Amberin Zaman the writer of this article has proven on her twitter that herself, being of Bengali descent, has this Indo-Iranist nationalist stance. She always writes sympathy pieces about Kurds but when Turks confronted her with complaints about the suppression of the language of 20+ million Azeris in Iran, she mockingly replied "PERSIAN REALITY TRANCENDS ALL". Lovely. Basically, she hates her "Turkishness" wants to help her distant kurdish cousins to Bengalis to force Indo-Iranism on Turkiye.
3. Now that we've established Amberin Zaman's stance, we have to ask questions about HOW IN THE HELL, did an article about Turkiye, Syria, and Kurds not mention that Ocalan lived in Syria for 2 decades or the PKK has been nothing more than a tool of the Syrian/Iranian/Russian axis for decades? I ask you, how is this the case?
4. So the PYD is the PKK. I don't care if they say they aren't. There are articles thoughout the internet mentioning how they hang poster of Ocalan everywhere (one wonders why they don't hang posters of Syrian Kurdish leaders instead). Often in operations, the Turkish military finds that most of the PKK terrorists that they've eliminated are Syrian-born. The only reason they say that they aren't close is to fool foreigners.
5. I get sick of attempted analogies to English/Irish conflict. Here are my reasons why:
A. Ireland is a reality. We can actually mark when the English or English-associated Germanic peoples started occupying Irish territory. There's no such thing as "kurdistan" nor has there ever been.
B. The Irish are actually indigenous inhabitants of their land. The kurds are largely land-robbers from India by way of Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq. Most of the kurds within Turkiye's borders are the descendants of 16th century settlers from Iran who were invited there by the Ottoman sultan to settle land he had newly won from the Persian shah. The kurds weren't even living in the Middle East in question before the 7th century. A different type of Turk-hater can tell you as much here: http://www.atour.com/education/20030919a.html
C. The English largely won. Many Irish are Anglicized beyond belief, culturally if not linguistically. Socioeconomically, an Ireland without England cannot be comprehended.
D. Irish nationalism was not a tool by foreign powers to weaken England. It's a fact that the PKK was created by Soviet Russians to cause instability in a NATO country, Turkiye. The PKK has found support from traditionally Turk-hating racists. Since then it has been used as a tool by Syria and Iran definitely and probably a whole bunch of others. You cannot ignore that the leader of the PKK was captured in the Greek embassy in Kenya. You cannot ignore that ASALA terror conveniently stopped when PKK terror started. What happened was that the Russians found their Armenian proxies to be defeated and useless. The West also suppors kurdish terror because they see it as a way to weaken Muslims and secure israel. There's also oil in the calculations and I can throw in every type of anti-Turkish racism.
E. England doesn't have anything to lose by giving up some island to its West. It's a fvckign rich country. Turkiye is weakened and separated from the rest of the Turkish world. The terrorist regimes of Syria, Russia, Armenia, Iran all fanatisize about a kurdish terrorist state because it would be a big sigh of relief to them.
F. Finally, the implicit anti-Turkish racism I mentioned is apparent when you consider that both the English and the Irish support kurdish terrorism against Turks. The Irish, for some reason, have this misguided idea that the Turks and English are high-fiving each other living it up. The reality is that the English have been the worst anti-Turkish racists historically and among the biggest sponsors of kurdish terrorism. I wish the Irish would realize that the Turks are actually similar to them and the if you want to make an analogy to the Kurds, you could maybe use the Scottish mercenaries who were used by the English occupation and settle much of Northern Ireland.
6. The course Erdogan has chosen, not Turkiye, is that of a middling thing that isn't hard enough on Kurdish terrorism. I sense in your writing that you think there kurdish terrorism is actually a threat that can't be handled physically. Nothing could be further from the truth. The PKK was completely defeated between 1999 and 2003. The USA and its irresponsible occupation of Iraq resurrected the PKK by giving the PKK a haven in Northern Iraq. Tell me, do you think this PKK could survive without its Western, Russian, Iranian, and Syrian backers? Do you think it would survive without its arms suppliers?
And why does "not bringing peace" not dissuade Sri Lanka in the way it deals with Tamils, Russia in the way it deals with Turkic/Caucasian/Muslim minorities, China in the way it deals with Uygurs, etc. I find Turkic peoples under assault in every other country. Why not allow this one country where they aren't subjected to oppression?
Why does the the US get to wipe out the INDIGENOUS (not like foreign kurds) Native Americans and reap the benefits of doing so? We let the kurds live on our land. So we get punished for not doing what the Europeans and Americans did to Native Americans?
I could write countless volumes of books on the hypocricies here. We simply betray ourselves by even thinking of giving any quarter to this kurdish terrorism, which is a foreign import.
Keko Cruncher, You argue that the PKK was an instrument of Soviet period Russia. Where does that leave it now with the PYD also fighting the Russian-allied regime in Damascus? Particularly if PYD and PKK make common cause. Also don't forget the fate of the Tudeh Party in Iran that was another Soviet Russian tool. The permutations of all this are not so simple if the conflict metastasizes.
And what makes you think "the West" wants to support "Kurdish terror"? I am not disputing you, but want to understand your reasoning. It sounds like some of what I've read from the CHP or MHP fringe in Turkey that sees a conspiracy of the West with the AKP and Kurds to dismember modern Turkey. There are some factions in the USA and Europe that sympathize with Kurdish Iraq, but that is mostly opposed to what they consider a defacto Shiite theocracy in Baghdad that collaborates with an anti-Western regime in Iran. Its much murkier than you may think, with contradictory policies reflecting contradictory strains of thought.
I agree with you that its all a nasty mess. Also, one that will not end well without wise diplomacy, and perhaps some sort of internationally sanctioned intervention. After reading Samar Yazbek's recent book- " A Woman in the Crossfire"- I cannot imagine allowing such a criminal regime to continue now a civil war has erupted. But it shouldn't be a Neo-Ottoman intervention.
Plushbottom, I'm not "arguing" that the PKK is an invention of Soviet Russians. I'm telling you. If you want to believe that assault rifles grow on trees in Northern Iraq, that's your problem.
The PYD is NOT fighting the Alawite regime. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10849730
What is your point in bringing up this "Tudeh Party"? US-plotted coup took down democratically-elected Mohammad Mosaddegh who had backing from Tudeh to nationalize Iranian petroleum. What of this contadicts anything I wrote.
"The West" seems to want nothing but misery for Sunni Muslims everywhere, petroleum, and security for Israel. What better ways for them to get these things by using the willing kurdish puppets http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2006/10/04/bordering-on-insanity.html
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It's not like I'm telling you anything new. The West has done this before, agitating minority terrorists against Turks. The French/Russian/English whispered sweet nothigns in the ears of the Armenians who started separatist terror. The Turks put them down HARD and since they've been complaining never looking in the mirror that it was them who sided with foreign imperialists.
The CHP and MHP are not a "fringe". They get more votes than the kurdish nationalist party, BDP, could ever hope to have. They don't view a "conspiracy", they see the truth. Basically, the West gives AKP plaudits and benefits for slowly dismembering Turkiye and kurdifying it.
If the West had such a problem with the Shi'ite Iraqis and Iran, then why did they carry out their genocidal occupation of Iraq?
Better a "neo-Ottoman" (buzzword created by people uncomfortable with Turkiye's rise in prominence) intervention than a kurdish/imperialist one.
By the way, I just want peace as well. However, creating another kurdish terrorist enclave in Syria to launch attacks against Turkish citizens? As they say on Seinfeld, "That's not going to be good for anybody".
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Ice Adventure FS HDWell I've had my trike now for 2 weeks and I guess it's time to show photos.
Right now I'm loving the trike, still playing with seat angles. My ayups have moved to a generic light mount on the FD post. I have also changed from the red elastometer shown to a green and changed it's position to 5. Found it was a stiffer ride in today, but I must have been compressing the red elastometer a lot as I'm 20kg over it's recommended weight. Managed to get a wheel up significantly on a corner after a decent today. I'm sure the locals know which one I'm talking about when I say Roe Hwy over South St headed east. The bend on the underpass. Don't think I'll take it that fast again around that I am going to have to replace the stock cassette, I'm finding the gearing spacing out way to much. I was cruising at 27kph then had to drop one gear and go to 22kph and my rpm goes up over 20 cadence. Have I converted to the darkside, yep I have I think. Bit more time and I'll know for sure if my DF's are up for sale or not. But with my car pressing me for repairs well I'll be riding my trike 5 days a week. Sure legs will hurt but will only be for about 2 weeks before they get used to it. Will just need to stop and stretch during the commute Future upgrades Front mudguards are on order Rear rack will be on order soon Order from T-cycle Fairing hmm I wonder Bigger chainring? It's only a 50t Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDAwesome !!
Great colour...... I am still on the red elastomer and weight 88kg....seems ok'ish but do get a fair amount of compression but only had a few scary sideways moments under compression. Have you already ordered mudguards and rack ? I have them, brand new front guards (unused), slightly used rear and slightly used rack which I might be tempted to sell as I am now getting a Mango....... Paul
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDI have ordered mudguards already they are on backorder from FFC tho.
Rack I require FS rack with sides. Do you have that type? Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDyou do realize that is you sell your df bikes you will have to grow a beard
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDWell you missed the Purple Sky flag Bling which arrived this afternoon
And yes they are kinda a sexy in a dorky nerdy-triker kinda way.
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDYep, I have the FS rack with sides.....I had it on my Vortex for 500km..... Make an offer
Shame you already ordered the mudguards.....
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDI recently bought a Dinotte 400r rear light, fantastic.....
One of my work friends just happened to drive past me last Sunday..... He spotted a very bright flashing red light about 1km away, initially he thought it was a copper who had pulled over someone as it was very bright and very diffuse.....as he got closer he spotted my Vortex cruising at 35kph...... The light is on its lowest setting and it was 1pm in the afternoon on a 50% overcast day.....awesome safety feature ! I have a good flag too !
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDBZ very nice trike and awesome colour not to mention you have purchased a great investment in that beast so congrats.
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDNice one Stu. That sure looks the goods! I'm glad you're enjoying the experience.
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Re: Ice Adventure FS HDNice photos Stuart.
A really beautiful trike. It was great to see it first hand and enjoy riding with you when you visited. Helen thinks she'd like to sell her Log and get one. She loves the folding. John
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDSo I hopped on my DF today, my Thorn and first thought was what the heck am I sitting on
That was after 258km's on my trike Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDHehehehe....
He has seen the light !! Sell the DF's and buy a go faster trike next
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errr velomobile Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDYet again I hopped on my Thorn to ride home and guess what... What am I sitting on goes again. I think I'm being truly converted here. I reckon another week and I'll be fully in the darkside of bents
Oh yes and whilst I was riding I was thinking, I don't have to do that with my trike, nor that, nor this so ummm convert you think? Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDToday I did an Audax 100km ride. There was some chipped seal roads. I could feel it a little, but Phil in his Vortex man could I hear the difference. Is voice was being affected by that! Loving the FS. But I need a visor and so does Phil hah.
We also got a nickname today, Audax bobsled Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDWell the chipseal was pretty bad on the 28mm Duranos, love the Vortex most of the time, but I was struggling to read the Garmin for navigation as my head was getting shaken so much my eyes couldn't focus on it. Still was only a few kms.
See how I go in a few weeks on the 200km Audax Anniversary loop - see how good the roads are.
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OK from what I know last year. The 1st downhill shaked my Supernova E3 loose. It's a long downhill which we will love, well I suspect me for But I don't think I had my Supernova correct torque and a little bit loose. But after 50km's I don't know the roads.. But I love my FS hehe Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
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If you're talking about the long downhill after the first hill out from Bullsbrook on Chittering Rd, yep that gets bumpy. I had a Mirricycle mirror mount snap off from vibrations while descending, those things are solid so a failure would have been surprising except that the trike was being kicked about so much. It is however a good road, scenic and quiet and with a water stop available at Golden Grove 2km from the Chittering Valley Rd turn or the Chittering Sports Hall at that turn (look for a tap opposite the gate). Be aware also that there has been road works on the bottom of that long descent, they seem to have decided that it is okay to have the storm grates sticking an inch or so above the bitumen (so that it'd be level the next time they lay a new surface?) and they'd widened the road higher up the slope but that new darker strip is rough as hell and full of branches, keep out. This'll be a hilly Audax but if you can cope with that you'll like the course. Enjoy. Maybe I should try my Bacchetta, see you there?
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Naah trike it - see how many " those people" we can get along
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDToday was a fun ride. Got inside wheel up again going around a roundabout. Also had some fun with a bunch of roadies on Kwinana Fwy PSP
Had one blaze past up and then eventually 2 more came past but they were only going a little more faster so drafting time come up They then started to slow down after about 5km so Phil started to go around and put the hammer down, I did likewise. We dropped them in the dust. Phil had to stop later on and was playing with his phone, so I took off my flag to see how much drag that was costing me. Looked about 2-3km/hr. So they caught up again and got around us. OFC we got back around them again. We were heading for Thomas Rd servo to refuel and their strong guy started a sprint up a hill. Got past me and I was about 20m behind Phil. Phil indicated to turn off and the guy had to slow down Oh what I'd give for a Mango... It would have been BYE BYE roadies once and for all. Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
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About $10-12K ?? Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDWell pics tomorrow of the changes!
Wheel covers are on Fairing is on Tomorrow is the test to see speed increase. I also have Trykers on the way Masi Speciale CX 2008 - Brooks B17 special saddle, Garmin Edge 810
Ice Adventure FS HDOoooooo !
Intriguing.....how are mounting the wheel covers ? I hope you are going to run your usual routes so you have. Before and after comparison and of course we need pictures..... Good work ! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
Re: Ice Adventure FS HDHeadwind I was cycling at 28kph! Normally that is 22-23 for me
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Overview:The MAW SCSI series is the latest generation Hard Disk products from Fujitsu offering low profile high speed and high capacity to high performance enterprise computing applications. The MAW NC/NP series supports the Ultra 320 SCSI (320MB/s) interface which offers new performance and reliability enhancing features such as data packet protocol quick arbitration and selection and signal pre-compensation. Specifications: CategoryFujitsu HardDrive Sub-Category10K GenerationUltra320 Part NumberMAW3147NP Products ID456489 Hot Swap TrayNot Included Capacity146GB Height1.0 inch/2.54cm Width4.0 inch/10.16cm InterfaceUltra320 SCSI Data Transfer Rate320MB/s Seek TimeSingle Track 0.55ms Seek TimeAverage 4.9ms Seek TimeFull Stroke 10.0ms Rotational Speed10K Bytes/Sector512 ManufacturerFujitsu ApplicationServer Storage Backward CompatabilityU2 and U3 Speeds Pre-Failure WarrantyYes Data Storage Device TypeSAS (Server Attached Storage) Hard Drive Device TypeHard drive for server/storage unit


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The Speech Language Pathology team offers inpatient and outpatient treatment. Services are provided by professional speech language pathologists holding master's level degrees, as well as being both licensed by the Kentucky Board of Speech Language Pathology and nationally certified by the American Speech Language Hearing Association.
The Speech Language Pathology team provides evaluation and treatment of a variety of different diagnoses in both adults and children on a daily basis, including the following:
• Childhood Speech and Language Disorders (PDF, 102 KB)• Stuttering • Pediatric feeding disorders• Dysphagia (PDF, 100 KB) (swallowing disorder) evaluation and treatment • Evaluation and treatment of acquired neurogenic and other adult speech and language disorders • Cognitive evaluations and treatment • Communication assistance to patients status post-laryngectomy• Pre-operative education for patients prior to laryngectomy• Modified barium swallow studies• Assessment for Passy Muir Speaking Valve for patients with tracheostomy tubes• Assessment of velopharyngeal port insufficiency
Our team offers specializations including:
• Socialization play groups• Aphasia group treatment• Traumatic brain injury group treatment• Involvement in the Lost Chords Club for patients post-laryngectomy
Sarah Campbell, MS, CCC-SLP, Director of Clinical Services
Mary Beth Allen, MS, CCC-SLP
Josie Andersson, MA, CCC-SLP
Ellen Hagerman, MA, CCC-SLP
Lauren C. Hicks, MS, CCC-SLP
Anne Lattin, MS, CCC-SLP
Meg Shake, MS, CCC-SLP
Leah Olson Shearer, MA, CCC-SLP
Request an appointment online or call 859-257-7918
Outpatient services:
• UK Communication Sciences and Disorders Clinic is located on the first floor, room 110, of the Charles T. Wethington Building, adjacent to Kentucky Clinic.• Otolaryngology Clinic is located on the 3rd floor of Kentucky Clinic.
Inpatient services, depending on service needed:
• UK Chandler Hospital• Markey Cancer Center• Kentucky Children's Hospital• UK Chandler Hospital radiology department
Physician and self referrals are accepted.
American Speech-Language Hearing Associationwww.asha.org
Self Help for Hard of Hearing People, Inc.www.shhh.org
American Society for Deaf ChildrenASDC is a national organization of families and professionals committed to education and supporting parents and families to create opportunities for their children who are deaf and hard of hearing. ASDC's primary mission is to advocate quality programs and services so parents can make informed choices to meet their children's educational and social needs.www.deafchildren.org
John Tracy Clinic for Preschool Deaf ChildrenOffering families hope, guidance and encouragement. John Tracy Clinic provides worldwide free parent-centered services to young children.www.johntracyclinic.org
National Association of the DeafNAD provides services and support for deaf individuals and their families. Includes local chapter links and articles.www.nad.org
National Family Association for Deaf-BlindSupporting persons who are deaf-blind and their families.www.nfadb.org
SEE Center for the Advancement of Deaf ChildrenThe S.E.E. (Signing Exact English) Center for the Advancement of Deaf Children was established in 1984 as a nonprofit organization to work with parents and educators of hearing impaired children. Goals of the center are to promote early identification and intervention, promote development of improved English skills and promote understanding of principles of Signing Exact English and its use.www.seecenter.org
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Hunley lawsuit claims $309 million in damages
Associated Press
Underwater archaeologist E. Lee Spence claims he suffered $309 million in damages because the discovery of the Confederate submarine Hunley was credited to author Clive Cussler.
The figure was discussed during a deposition Spence gave as part of the federal lawsuits arising from the discovery of the Hunley a decade ago.
"I want the jury to award me everything they believe it has cost me," Spence said Wednesday. "I'm trying to be conservative in my figures as to what it cost me. I didn't spend that much money and not that I would have received that much money, but I would have had that benefit."
The figure is "absurd and I think it is ludicrous," said John Lay Jr., the attorney representing Cussler.
Cussler recently was granted a delay in the trial until at least August because he recently underwent open heart surgery .
A group headed by Cussler sued Spence in 2001.
That suit contends Spence's claim that he found the submarine injured the reputation of Cussler's National Underwater & Marine Agency and divers Cussler hired.
Spence later countersued, seeking damages and asking the court to declare him the discoverer of the Hunley.


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O's looking to feast on struggling White Sox
Gonzalez squares off against Quintana in opener of four-game set
The Orioles are hoping it's their turn to beat up on the White Sox who, at this point, want to get the heck out of the American League East and back to Chicago.
There was a time the White Sox were winners in 10 of 12 games. Then road trips to Boston and New York happened, and the Red Sox and Yankees each swept the South Siders out of town.
Baltimore -- four games back of Tampa Bay for the second AL Wild Card -- looks to be just as unwelcoming as a host as it tries to gain ground in the postseason picture.
The White Sox took two of three from the Orioles in July, including the finale when left-hander Jose Quintana allowed two hits and whiffed 11 in seven shutout innings. Quintana hopes to replicate that outing in Thursday's opener when he opposes Orioles righty Miguel Gonzalez.
Quintana is coming back on two days' rest after throwing only 20 pitches against the Yankees on Monday before a two-hour rain delay.
Gonzalez likely wishes his last outing, also against the Yankees, had ended earlier. He retired 10 of the first 11 he faced before surrendering seven earned runs and getting yanked in the fifth.
"I don't know," Gonzalez said afterward of what happened. "I can't even explain it. It was a tough one."
White Sox: Keeping 'em close
• The White Sox have played teams close this season despite finding themselves in the AL Central cellar, as 106 of their 138 games have been decided by three runs or fewer.
Chicago also has played 50 one-run games.
• White Sox pitchers have walked 27 batters in their last six games.
• Outfielder Avisail Garcia is hitting .375 in his last 21 games. He had two hits and two RBIs in Wednesday's 6-5 loss at Yankee Stadium.
Orioles: Machado keeps hitting
• Manny Machado hit a three-run homer on Wednesday to extend his hitting streak to eight games (.324). The third baseman's Major League-leading 46 doubles are one shy of Vada Pinson (1959 Reds) for the second most by player in his age-20 or younger season. Alex Rodriguez (54 in 1996) is the all-time leader.
• Right-hander Jason Hammel will be activated from the disabled list on Thursday but won't be available to pitch until at least Friday, manager Buck Showalter said. Hammel (right flexor mass tightness) can be used as a starter or a reliever.
Worth noting
• Quintana's 16 no-decisions this season are the most in White Sox history.
Cash Kruth is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter at @cashkruth. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Transforming the First Mile: Kofax Customer Onboarding for Financial Services
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Overview: Customer onboarding is one of the most important events in the life cycle of a banking customer, setting the stage for the entire relationship going forward. When an account opening experience is slow or painful, it can leave your customer with a negative impression that may linger for months, eating into future sales and even leading to defections. This is hardly conducive to success in an industry where institutions are working overtime to sign up new customers - and where margins and budgets remain tight