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"The Economist" does not need directions from a person like you full of temper and attitude. You want to address outdated issue here for your own political gain. You must be one of supporters of those organizations in the West that against Ethiopian government with their tabloid and fake news. It is The Economist" responsibility as one of professional and respected media outlets in the world to present their case in the manner of convincing and civility not to taking directions from others that potentially could mislead general public.
oh yes, hallelujah! what a brilliant comment! Please, do not write about the fact, The Economist. Unless you will be out of your moral and ethical standards. However, if you say something good about the brutal dictator who replaced a nightmare dictator, that day, you are the model of western media!
There is no government in Ethiopia but a band of Mafia illeterate who are ruining our country! Mebratu, go listen the latest video by VOA , the journalist is called a so called head of Police in Addis Abeba, and the guy tells him " I will get you through your number and hang you" to which the journalist replies: I am a journalist in Washington DC, the so called TPLF nominated head of police says, I don't care where you are, I will get you and will destroy your head.." this is NOT A GOVERNMEMENT Mr Mebratu Fishka but just BANDAS ILLETERATE DURIYE WHO ARE DESTROYING OUR ONENESS , STEALING THE COUNTRY WEALTH whilst imposing on people gun, prison, torture...ECONOMIST IS NOW FINALLY MAYBE SEEING IT ; SO MR/MRS journalists of ECONOMIST, STAND WITH THE PEOPLE , NEVER TOO LATE TO CORRECT YOUR MISTAKES...YOU OWE IT TO ETHIOPIANS IN THE WORLD ; MELES WAS A NAZI FUHRER AND WE ARE CELEBRATING HIS DEATH BY NO MEANS...
You have to be in a place in order to proof about what has happened in that place. Even if it has happened, it would be the first in the world that involved government officials in corruptions. We see and hear worst corruptions in democratic countries including torture, therefore, in Guantanamo Bay detention camp, to mention few.
Where were you when there was Red -terror in Ethiopia? You should know how acknowledge and appreciate the freedoms we all country loving Ethiopians are demonstrating because of current government. You just can't ignore what has achieved by current government.
If there were no good governance in Ethiopia:
If there were no good governance in Ethiopia, doctors would have return to their beloved country, Ethiopia, and going to set up specialized hospitals to help people of Ethiopian in need of medical care. Read the link below as you always need directions as you have poor vision for Ethiopia: http://www.diretube.com/articles/read-diaspora-doctors-to-start-speciali...
If there were no good governance in Ethiopia, Ethiopia would have built the firs ever drone in the country. I hope you know what drone means is. Read in the following link: http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article45518
If there were no good governance in Ethiopia, Ethiopia wouldn't have planning to launch first ever satellite in to space in the next two years time. Read in the following link: http://sodere.com/profiles/blogs/ethiopia-to-design-construct-and-launch...
Read and Talk news from reliable sources not from tabloid fake media.
Mebratu Fiseha: you are simply in denial of the reality in Ethiopia, as much as dictators like Menguistu and genocider like Meles Nazi are in front of the world...and I quiet understand your position because the system works for people like you ! Look at the inflation rate in Ethiopia, one of the worst in the world! All you are listing, is a show put on the scene by money injected from US/UK aid money and not from substantive and economical gain earned on the ground! Ethiopia has reached the worst of job market, youngs are frustrated eating drugs like chat and smoking, sex has become an unmbearable business like it never had happened before...we use to be a country of moral, ethics and strong foundation in spiritual values...your so called meles, an antheist of any kind (to which of course is entittle for his own) imposed on the brave people of Ethiopia, a pope not elected by us, from his own tribe for the continuation of his racial policy: God finger's print was visible in his dramatic death, in which he go a farewell accompagnied by his unjust so called pope who never stood against the mass killings in 2005 but instead allowed the soldiers to walk in the church and let those brave students who wanted a simple freedom! Continue to be in denial, it is your prerogative, and we will continue to press on till we get equality and show the people of Tigray that there will never be a tigray supremacy on us....BY NO MEANS! WE will defeat woyane evil thinking by peaceful resistance till TPLF surrender : THIS IS A COMMITMENT WE HAVE. It is an absolute mistake for you to compare Ethiopia's prison and HR rights abuse with Guantanamo ...because one distress and abuse in any country , whether be it one of the 1st country in the worl - does not justify you do it elsewhere : you 've proven by this point that you don't stand for Ethics, morality, justice and the love of your country; your obsession is Tigrai and this idea you carry Ethiopia on the right direction...I go regularly in the country and hear the misery of my people every day! I have filmed it, recorded it and the day we are free, those things will be shown public to the world, mark my words...you should be ashamed not to stand for freedom, and help your ethiopians fellow like Andualem Arege be out and be part of the construction of our country, you will regret you did not put aside your tribalistic view , and not have the appointment of your life, by joining Ethiopians inside and outside the country, for a just Ethiopia, for a just transformation, and not for tigre cadres and generals who build luxury buildings for themselves, renting them out by millions and put it in their pocket whilst millions in Ethiopia are starving. Such action demands courage , intellectual honesty and good conscious...obviously, you are failin in all of those ...May God give you the strenght to see your wrong vision and bring you back to His Love, to His peace so you can love your country and your people with equality and justice.
Now I know what your main argument was about. Not for the country but for your religion and tribal issue. I will get back to you later, till then, make sure nobody unplugs your life support.
Your next leader will be Tamaign Beyene. What a nice name! I saw his mini militias marching upon his arrival in South Africa. He was preaching his naïve followers about what each African countries flags look like by using power point. I was surprised to see him know how to use power point considering his educational back ground. I was like, wow!
Menelik Ethio, The government of Ethiopia has established public confidence on its leadership and development that are visible within the country and to out side world as well. That is the reality that no one can deny.
USA and UK did not inject any money to government of Ethiopia without case. The money was spent where it was supposed to.
One of requirements for one country to continue to get financial assistance from IMF is to put previously provided financial assistance in a place where it was assigned to. That was what Ethiopian government did and financial assistance continued to flow for Ethiopia regardless of your masters, like Elias Kifle's attempt to stop financial assistance to Ethiopia by spreading email campaign to boycott businesses with Ethiopia including boycott Ethiopian airline.
Aren't you guys desperate as loser do always to be obstacle to development of Ethiopia for your own political gain?
Who are you guys? Ginbot-7 founder and leader was previous loyal and server of military rules in the country so called "Dergue" EAT TV anchor; Afework Agidew was also the same. Elias Kifle was the same including his parents who were loyal to Haile silassie, who did nothing to improve Ethiopia both politically and economically.
The change Ethiopia has is irreversible and just give up.
JUST THE FACTS PLEASE, Meles Zenawi's Ethiopia (orig. post by Adv Trek):
- Double-digit economic growth for last 8 years (IMF & World Bank)
- Primary school enrollment now 90%, up from 20% in 1992 (UN)
- HIV incidence rate reduced by 90%, deaths by 60%, 10-year study (UN)
- 5 hydroelectric dams built, more under construction (World Bank)
- Invited to speak at last several G8 & G20 Global Economic Summits
If this is "dictatorship", Ethiopia needs more of it, PLEASE!
30+ opportunistic opposition groups in Diaspora, too busy infighting over $$$!
To bring real democracy in Ethiopia is not a Utopia. Its a simple equation, get ride of the old militaristic mind-set from the older leaders or get ride of the old leaders themselves, then you could possibly have the free enterprise the nation starved of.
However, it has been difficult to do this in the past and will most likely be in the nearest future. There is ,of course, one big remedy to the nation: the age of the central committee members. Perhaps it will not be very long to see a new liberal leader from the young Ethiopian's both from within or outside the country. Meanwhile, the incumbents will continue prolonging their time putting their leader legacy in the for front of their every undertakings.
What a ridiculous article. Is it a surprise that whoever wrote this garbage decided to leave out their name? We all remember 2005 like it was yesterday and the slaughter of innocent protestors will always be a testament to the true character of the man. Ethiopia's growth can be attributed to Meles's unhealthy reliance on China who he had left to freely colonize and pillage large parts of our country without a blink of an eye.
Lets remember Meles for who he really is and not use he's unfortunate death to cloud our judgement. Ethiopia is at a crossroads and utterly pointless articles which serve absolutely no purpose but to breath new life into his toxic way of governance have no place in a future Ethiopia.
As much as one might sincerely wish new PM Mariam success, he is inheriting a regionally divided and deeply disgruntled nation and an almost unimaginable level of inequality. Along with widely trumpeted select capital projects like Ethiopian airlines' Dreamliner or the new Rail projects and the egg shell veneer of western style construction projects that thinly coat parts of Addis Ababa give the illusion of a dream of a new 'Meles Ethiopia'. The truth, from what I have seen, is however that even after 20 years of democracy the vast majority of the deeply embittered citizens haven't benefitted in any measurable way at all and still only work to barely cover rent and food if at all.
The article depects a very real, almost Gulf level, cult of the personality which is prevalent across Ethiopian cities. The question is what is it hiding? Meles was a master of playing the West off against it's enemies (and some dark cynics say he may have paid the price for it). Some points the article misses and more poignant questions might be with over 35% of GDP coming from foreign aid and ever increasing dependency on China, what will remain of the growth when the nation ceases being propped up by the West as a bullwark against the unruly islamic neighbours in the horn of Africa and what will remain when the illusion of growth/Smoke has lifted that is currently fired by the same Chinese soft loans which have been blowing into most of Africa for some time?
The answer - Froth, a great deal of unusable low quality junk and an even greater level of bitterness is a strong possibility.
Meles was an acknowledged master of illusion but Ethiopia's young populace are media savy and knowledgable and are starting to see through the illusion. Nothing tangible has been confirmed under Mariam to date. The level of expectation that has been created by the previous regime is colossal. There are some genuine rays of light, let us hope Mariam is chosen to deliver but the 'Meles generation' will be demanding a lot more than ash when the smoke clears.
"A move to genuine democracy" - someone please tell me what on frigging earth that is, because I am yet to see it anywhere on this earth. Unless ofcourse 'genuine democracy' is 'western style democracy' where leaders are nearly just as impunitive as any other leader when it suits them most(sanctioning drone attacks - even on their own citizens, unjustified wars et al)but I digress. Some of these articles have a tendency of starting off in earnest but then continue to unnecessarily and mischievously plant seeds of despondency on a situation they know 'cosmetically' about. Being a genuine leader with a succession plan is what people usually questioned about Meles(MHSRIEP), yet now that proof exists of such a plan, people's views (notwithstanding the hints in this article) are that Prime Minister Hailemariam is a 'follower' and that is supposedly a bad thing??? SMH.
Dear Investors in Great Britain and the United States, I am called by different names in this forum by those who support the TPLF regime for their own benefits. These TPLFiters provide gibberish reasons, as they always do, for criticizing what I said about not investing in Ethiopia today. They do not provide adequate evidence to support what they say other than insulting those who disagree with the TPLF regime.
I am posting this information because I care about those prospective investors in Great Britain and the United States and because I love dearly my native country Ethiopia and its people.
Here is the link:
American investor defrauded in Ethiopia By Meles Zenawi & Co.
July 23rd, 2008
By Sara Castaldini
In its February 2008 newsletter, VEGA (Volunteers for Economic Growth Alliance) announced a business project in Ethiopia supported by USAID (paid for by American tax payers). According to the newsletter (PAGE 3), VEGA initiated the first joint venture factory between an American investor (Victor Ozeri) and a local Ethiopian business woman (Lily Bertu). The two were introduced by Addis Alemayehou, Chief of Party (COP) of the VEGA Ethiopia project.
What happened next is truly scandalous and shameful. Lily Betru, who is the best friend of the first lady of Ethiopia and a close friend of the Prime Minister Meles Zenawi, proved to the unsuspecting American businessman that she is also above the law. Within 4 short months, she orchestrated a vile accusation against the successful and respected businessman, used her 28-year old son to physically attack and intimidate him, bribed a police man to put him in an Ethiopian jail, and finally managed to chased him out of Ethiopia without his money.
Mr. Ozeri, 55, a native New Yorker and the father of three children, who had just sold two companies doing a combined sales of $100 Million U.S. Dollars annually before moving to Africa to start his new venture, was robbed of his Ethiopian investment in daylight.
Mekari, at least create a new link that does not start with "Red Sea," we all know that's an Eritrean chat room.
Eritrea: Sanctioned by UN Security Council for sponsoring murderous terrorists in Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya and Somalia.
Ras Mitat,
How about if I provide you with the following link instead:
Are you still going to blame the Eritreans for the story?
By the way, I am not an Eritrean and this story has got nothing to do with Eritereans. Using the Eritereans as escapegoats does not work in this case. Let us not worry about the Eritreans. Let us just focus in cleaning all the mess created in Ethiopia.
LOL..."Ethiopian" Review (aka Eritrean Review)
"Ethiopian" Review called Eritrean dictator Isayas Afeworki "Man Of The Year," and the editor (Elias Kifle) has printed photo of himself visiting the dictator in Eritrea, and armed terrorist groups.
Sounds like you are a paid Internet Propagandist and Regime Apologist since you keep on coming at me with gebberish and nonsense answers.
This will be my last response to you since you are not interested in learning about the truth.
FINAL CHALLENGE. Since Mr. Victor Ozeri is a real person, why don't you interview him about his story in Ethiopia and share your findings with us all in this forum.
I hope you don't come back at me saying that Mr. Victor Ozeri is an Eritrean! (LOL).
Victor Ozeri is a crook, even in U.S...Only Eritreans worship White people!
"On Dec. 30, multimillionaire VICTOR OZERI found himself in Housing Court, defending himself against eviction. At issue: approximately $20,000 in maintenance charges, late-payment fees and co op-imposed surcharges for his subleasing of the park-view one-bedroom apartment he owned in a building on Central Park West..."
New York Press: http://nypress.com/property-tales/
Getting involved in some expense disputes, here and there, is not unusual for multi-millionnaire business persons like Mr. Victor Ozeri. And that is only a civil dispute not a crime.
On the other hand, the TPLF regime ripping of $500,000 from a foreign investor is tantamount to a crime. That is the main point of our discussion here.
FACTS don't lie (posted by Adv Trek):
- Double-digit economic growth for last 8 years (IMF & World Bank)
- Primary school enrollment now 90%, up from 20% in 1992 (UN)
- HIV incidence rate reduced by 90%, deaths by 60%, 10 year study (UN)
- 5 hydroelectric dams built, more under construction (World Bank)
If this is dictatorship, Ethiopia needs more of it!
Dear Investors in Great Britain and the United States, I am called by different names in this forum by those who support the TPLF regime for their own benefits. These TPLFiters provide gibberish reasons, as they always do, for criticizing what I said about not investing in Ethiopia today. They do not provide adequate evidence to support what they say other than insulting those who disagree with the TPLF regime.
I am posting this information because I care about those prospective investors in Great Britain and the United States and because I love dearly my native country Ethiopia and its people.
Here is the link:
Mekari, at least create a new link that does not start with "Red Sea," we all know that's an Eritrean chat room.
Eritrea: Sanctioned by UN Security Council for sponsoring murderous terrorists in Ethiopia & Somalia.
Who is going to buy your cooked up statistics? The western governments know what is going in Ethiopia first hand. You are a big fool,do u think their respective embassies in Addis count chicken all day? They know, what is going in Ethiopia more than some stupid low level tplf cadre. Are u trying to fool them??? this is hilarious Kakakaka incompetent ignorant fooool! However, you are obviously out of your depth.
Thank you for your constructive contribution and at least staying on subject if it does smack somewhat in my opinion of State propaganda. Apart from the schools which arguable were the cornerstone of the much maligned communist regimes focus. How has any of this tangibly benefitted ordinary Ethiopian citizens? The ordinary policeman even after 20 years of democracy still only earns less than $30 a month 1/5 of what a taxi driver in Addis earns! And what has the inflation rate been over the same period? The lives of ordinary Ethiopians tell their own tale.
The article is very articulate and to the point. One thing which is very sure about the revolutionary democrats in Ethiopia… at least they managed to provide security and change on the non-existent infrastructure. There is no press freedom.. it is very obvious! The political arena is not as free as needed… no question about it! However, Ethiopia is not a failed state! There is some kind of stability and tangible change. Does this grant the government the best in Africa, NOPE…. That is a far cry!
However, there are certain areas I must admit the government is doing well. The military and security apparatus is not a menace for the people. There is relative peace, substantial change on health, infrastructure, education… and annoying telecommunication.
However, I am a realist not a believer on utopian dream. I envy the western democracy but as they say… Rome is not built in one night. Change is cannot be achieved overnight. For a country that was stagnated for so long, things will take time. Shall we call it "Work in progress"… I think so.
What happened to Ethiopians? Ethiopia has been nearly hermetically sealed for 1700 years and it has been too soon for genetic drift, why so far from the glory of Aksum? What happened to the people that held Arabia in subjugation? What became of the nation that Mani called the equal of Rome, China, and Persia? Where are the people that defeated the mighty Persian Empire and seized Yemen? What became of the nation that produced Emperor St. Kaleb? Where is that nation that dominated the trade of the Indian Ocean? History is funny; once the Nubians erected great building and the Germans lived in mud huts; now the Germans erect great building and Nubians live in mud huts. It was Dante who said, "Consider your origins: you were not made to live as brutes, but to follow virtue and knowledge"; Ethiopian should think about that.
Isn't this precisely the type of thinking that has kept 'mighty Ethiopia' in dire poverty for the last 2000 years? Things have moved on. At least Meles was living in the 21st century a vast improvement on this lot.
What is wrong with trying to recapture past glory or reassuring yourself that you are indeed capable of such glory; is that not what China is doing?
Are you though?
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for the person who wrote this as an answer :
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Idiot do you even know what APARTHEID means. your stupidity just disgusts me just knowing there are pepole like your self out there. The closest thing to APARTHEID in this world at this time is the Palestiani-Israeli issue. Please dont just write something just because the internet gives you freedom to do so.
Meles has been ordering the genocide of Gambella ethnic groups ( I can send you the video if you want!) Amhara people 2.5 millions have desappeared and no one knows where they are! Recently they killed 145 suri ethnic people as they refused to be deplaced for their land is being sold to indian investors; Most non tigrean (the ruling party ethnic beign tigre) intellectuals and journalist are perishing in a silent killing either in prisons with torture or they are exiled when they were able to escape, all key posistions in both economic and defense are detained 99.9 % by tigreans - i can send you the link with the details , all the generals in the army are tigreans who owns on top big business and buidings houses they rent to individual and again 99.9 are tigreans, and i can go on and on...if this is not an apartheid system what it is?????? just because no one talks about it and it is not seperated by wall saying forbiden to non tigreans does it make it OK??????????? I guess you are the stupid one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and why bring Israeli here??? Live them alone...they have enough fire on their hands...Amharas are maybe your target and you find maybe it is ok to kill them because they defend the same God of Israel...if you consider there is Apartheid in Israel, why should it be any different in Ethiopia since non tigreans are excluded from eating the cake??? but please live Israel alone...that should not be the subject here! Shalom!
Really? He killed 2.5 million Amharas?
Thanks to comments and attitudes like yours, the opposition in Ethiopia is not taken seriously by anyone... Good job, keep talking bollocks!
you can watch the debate inside the parliament where the lady confront TPLF saying 2.5 are missing....where are they? where they displaced? gazed? what happenened to these amharas people? as long as you fail to provide an accurate answer to that , ymeles hase committing crimes against humanity..and why you pick only the Amhara question again? what do you do of the gambellas? Suris? DENGAY RASS as your evil father meles so you refuse to watch crimes that are committed on the face of the earth...Keep dreaming woyane , your days are numbered trust me...ethiopians are on the rize with God's help ! Your nightmare are amhara group , your writting tells...you know what Amhara means??? it comes from a verb in geez which means "the one who is gracious, or pleasing" your father evil sebehat nega associated it with Orthodox...woyane and its supporters are only children of setan...sew hono ende sebehat nega shemagile balege Aguerachenen awaredat , chetat ...but God will free us you will see that day! Megbia kedada tatalachewu! YEMAYKER , PRAISE TO GOD OF ISRAEL! ETHIOPIA AND ISRAEL ARE ONE ...Never forget that ...THESE ARE THE 2 NATIONS GOD CHOSE TO PROTECT NO MATTER WHAT ...SO GET READY FOR YOUR END WOYANE...Enate you have messaria , enia we have GOD AND OUR PRAYERS...WE WILL WIN YOU WILL SEE...GOD IS RISING PEOPLE TO CLEAN YOUR MESS...Your fake pope and meles zereniaw left together in one farewell...that sealed the sign man...
you can watch the debate inside the parliament where the lady confront TPLF saying 2.5 are missing....where are they? where they displaced? gazed? what happenened to these amharas people? as long as you fail to provide an accurate answer to that , ymeles hase committing crimes against humanity..and why you pick only the Amhara question again? what do you do of the gambellas? Suris? DENGAY RASS as your evil father meles so you refuse to watch crimes that are committed on the face of the earth...Keep dreaming woyane , your days are numbered trust me...ethiopians are on the rize with God's help ! Your nightmare are amhara group , your writting tells...you know what Amhara means??? it comes from a verb in geez which means "the one who is gracious, or pleasing" your father evil sebehat nega associated it with Orthodox...woyane and its supporters are only children of setan...sew hono ende sebehat nega shemagile balege Aguerachenen awaredat , chetat ...but God will free us you will see that day! Megbia kedada tatalachewu! YEMAYKER , PRAISE TO GOD OF ISRAEL! ETHIOPIA AND ISRAEL ARE ONE ...Never forget that ...THESE ARE THE 2 NATIONS GOD CHOSE TO PROTECT NO MATTER WHAT ...SO GET READY FOR YOUR END WOYANE...Enate you have messaria , enia we have GOD AND OUR PRAYERS...WE WILL WIN YOU WILL SEE...GOD IS RISING PEOPLE TO CLEAN YOUR MESS...Your fake pope and meles zereniaw left together in one farewell...that sealed the sign man...
I don't know why I take the time to answer to a racist, chauvinist equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan, an Amhara-Supremacist like you who "defends" the morality of Gambellan or Suri people but boast the great name of Menelik, who enslaved and stole the land of most of them.
I answer it for other readers, if they have interest.
In many countries in the world there are millions of people "missing". What they mean is that they have not been counted in the Statistics, usually because of the difficulty in organizing a one-by-one person counting in a huge country like Ethiopia.
For instance, in India's last Population Census, there were more than 10 million "missing" people, and what they mean is that the final number of citizens in India has a margin of error of "about 10 million", because the country is so huge and there are so many people, they can be totally sure and say "that's EXACTLY how many people live in my country. In Russia, in Brazil, in Mexico, in Madagascar, in Indonesia, there are millions of people in this situation. They don't always live in remote rural areas, many times they live "illegally" in slums in the city, so the kebeles in these countries don't officially count them.
.. At least he has the freedom here to try!
We have all to admit that there is some progress in the economy now when we compare with what Mengistu accomplished during his 17 years reign in power. But, we should never take what Derg accomplished as a bench mark as it (Derg or for that matter communism) s evil to none.
Given the influx of economic aid flowing to the country, Ehtiopia should have shown a much more robust growth than what we saw during the past 18 years. To me EPRDF and WPE/Derg are two sides of the same coin except that Derg commits mass marder without adding peanut to the bread while EPRDF adds additives and sweatners.
The constituition that is close to perfect on paper is good enough only to deceive the West. The west misreads what is on paper and portray Meles and EPRDF as the beacon of democracy and economic growth. I don't wish death for anyone but it was God's answer to people's cry and prayer that Meles' life came to an end unexpectedly.
Mebratu Fiseha!
How can you say you are happy when:
The government is run by one ethnic party - TPLF?
57 of the 61 generals in the army are from Tigray?
The military, security apparatuses, Finance and Economics, and the Foreign Ministry are all held by the Tigrians?
There is only one TV station - Government owned ETV?
There is one government radio station?
There is only one Internet provider - government owned?
There is only one opposition member out of the 547 members of parliament?
The government takes contols of the country's religions - Orthodox, Islam, and Protestants?
You must be out of your mind or else a paid TPLF Internet propagandist!
You have to see the whole picture of the country not having limited understanding. The country of Ethiopia is changed for good regardless of who or which ethnic group is leading the country.
Minorities have been offered high post including becoming ambassador/ambassadorial post.
Females have been given again ambassadorial job.
Many became PhD holders than ever as higher education institutions have increased more than ever. Each region in the country has university. In the past, Ethiopia had only two universities for entire country.
Double digit economy growth has been registered for many consecutive years and still going.
Ethiopia's image has been visible in positive manner to out side world more than ever.
Communication system has been improved.
Media services has been improved where you get current live information about current events in the country regardless of which part of the world you live.
So based the improvement we see in the country, you make make an argument about positive side of the country. We just cannot ignore what has been achieved whether the country was ruled by one ethnic group or not.
Ethiopia has been ruled by one ethnic group for three thousand years and we didn't see any improvements. Why do we care who ruls the country as long as the country is growing and opportunities were given to minority like current leader?
LOl, so now I am Amhara! YOu see that is your problem, anyone defending people's right you think it is Amhara: let me break news to you: I AM NOT AMHARA - AND I SPEAK THE TRUTH! Thanks actually for proving the world that your hate and target of Amharas are tangible, before I use to disbelief Amharas when they said that but now I am more and more convinced...so call me KKK whatever you want,the minutes ethiopians defend their unity under one flag and oppose woyane , we are labelled woyane! woyane killed everybody not only Amharas but new we know you hate them N0.1 and we (all Ethiopians inclusive all ethnic group will fight racism , OK? I hope it is easy for you to get that.
- 2nd - you are saying so this is a counting issue...and the counting issue is only pertaining (as if by surprise:-) to Amhara group only?? the lady in the parliament is clearly saying and proving with evidence that there is an anoying and overwhelming evidence that this is not a counting issue ! what we don't know is : how many was killed versus how many were displaced to some other tigre control the business. The list has been published and i checked it, they were 99% tigre people administoring the land and the business! and that is apartheid (modern manner) of imposing tigre on ethiopian people by economic ways...that trick now is known even american and english have written thounds of articles on it, Genocide watch actually sent a letter to the Hague askin them to watch TPLF vicious way of governing the country...so you blame it on amharas, oromos et...ye telemede fishka new , we know you too well man! there is no secret on the face of Emma Ethiopia...
- acutally, TPLF is no better than KKK thank you for doing the analogy for me...I will use that term again...
- I don't know if it is you who mentioned Menelik or someone else , but in any case, No Menelik would have meant No Ethiopia as italians would have colonized us...at least you can write your own alphabet , your own religion, eat your own food...for sibehat nega to say: pasta meblat yastemarnachew enia nen, shows how much the north people have an identity issue ...pasta megeb new ende??????????? LOL! Ethiopia uniquely designed and saved by God to equal Israel , the only 2 nations in the world who survived all invaders despite all odds so we will defeat woyane , that is inevitable Mr Woyane...and now please for the sake of audience, let's stop exchangin this extensive solo exchange as you would not convince me, ( I may probably not...like many stone headed woyane and racist ) so let's close the deal here. Watch the revolution coming ...it's in the air, web, esat-tv etc...and now the Economist: ethiopians forced the world to see the terrorist action of TPLF!MY ADVICE TO YOU: DO NOT MISS THE TRAIN OF REVOLUTION IN ETHIOPIA, HEAL YOURSELF FROM WOYANE AND LOOK BIGGER = 1 ETHIOPIA FOR ALL! NO APARTHEID!
Menelik Ethio is still going but he doesn't know where he's going. He is still writing but he doesn't know what he's writing. AND people don't understand what he's writing. First, know how to get your message out.
Menelik Ethio is still going but he doesn't know where he is going. He's still writing but does't know what he is writing. And people do not understand what he is writing.
Nothing can make some Ethiopians happy. These guys don't like change or peace at all but introducing violence. If they have different leader today that they seem to be loyal to without even knowing him, they will start protest as always against him . It seems like they have their own small world where they play with their poor vision with their small brain.
Before knowing where you go, Mr Mebratu tigrai, you have to know first who you are...obvisously you don't know who you are because you sold your soul to evil, TPLF.
I did not, I will never, and will never accept your racial division in Ethiopia = I am ETHIOPIAN with profound roots and because I know myself ( the who I am), I (together with millions ethiopians) will show you and prove you where we are going ! You remember a certain Mandela in history time...people had called him "the terrorist" for he was fighting for simple freedom! God given freedom. And that is where we are going...please make sure you keep in touch with Economist so you can see that article : ETHIOPIA FREE FROM WOYANE TIGRE...That is coming, mark my words. No need to insult me for I had a opposition opinion, but you and your meles evel father you don't believe in oppositions but gun and blood...we are committed to a revolution with non violence! And we will achievet that...RESPECT YOUR CITIZEN WHO SPEAK DIFFERENT, ACT DIFFERENT, AND THINK DIFFERENT...I KNOW IT IS HARD FOR WOYANE DEDEBIT FROM TIGRAI...But try once!
FYI to "The Economist". Those commenting negative about current Ethiopia over your article were remnants of former military regime with narrow mind. And also might be Eritreans with Ethiopian name. The general public of Ethiopians like the visible changes currently we see in the country. If they were really concern about the country, they wouldn't have suggested not to invest in Ethiopia. Such comments are good indication that these guys have no vision for the country now or in the future. Therefore, they cannot represent general public.This world is going forward but these guys are going backward and still wishing disintegration in the peaceful country. The changes we have in Ethiopia is irreversible and Ethiopia will continue to deveope with or without their presence. Ethiopia shall prosper.
Your argument is suspect since they represent the majority of views here and in real life.
You don't really know or understand the content of an article nor do you know what has been said in my comment. There was not a single word has been mentioned in my comment but you were talking rubbish as your small brain in your small world could not produce anything that would be helpful to anyone to improve anything in the country. You don't know where you going but still you are going.
Meles biggest achievement was creating an image of a brave man to the west.But here,He's a dictator.Nothing more nothing less.A dictator who ruled with iron-fist.A dictator who waged war with 3 of his four neighbors.A dictator who used aid money to merely boost his northern region.A dictator who silenced free press.A dictator who imprisoned thousands of political activists.He is the Ethiopian version of Gadafi.So don't tell us he was a unique visionary leader.We know more than you lot who the real Meles Zenawi was.THE DICTATOR.
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A Commentary, Critical, Practical, and Explanatory on the Old and New Testaments, by Robert Jamieson, A.R. Fausset and David Brown [1882] at sacred-texts.com
Moreover--"Now" [ALFORD and ELLICOTT].
I declare--literally, "I make known": it implies some degree of reproach that it should be now necessary to make it known to them afresh, owing to some of them "not having the knowledge of God" (Co1 15:34). Compare Gal 1:11.
wherein ye stand--wherein ye now take your stand. This is your present actual privilege, if ye suffer not yourselves to fall from your high standing.
ye are saved--rather, "ye are being saved."
if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you--Able critics, BENGEL and others, prefer connecting the words thus, "I declare unto you the Gospel (Co1 15:1) in what words I preached it unto you." Paul reminds them, or rather makes known to them, as if anew, not only the fact of the Gospel, but also with what words, and by what arguments, he preached it to them. Translate in that case, "if ye hold it fast." I prefer arranging as English Version, "By which ye are saved, if ye hold fast (in memory and personal appropriation) with what speech I preached it unto you."
unless--which is impossible, your faith is vain, in resting on Christ's resurrection as an objective reality.
I delivered unto you--A short creed, or summary of articles of faith, was probably even then existing; and a profession in accordance with it was required of candidates for baptism (Act 8:37).
first of all--literally, "among the foremost points" (Heb 6:2). The atonement is, in Paul's view, of primary importance.
which I . . . received--from Christ Himself by special revelation (compare Co1 11:23).
died for our sins--that is, to atone FOR them; for taking away our sins (Jo1 3:5; compare Gal 1:4): "gave Himself for our sins" (Isa 53:5; Co2 5:15; Tit 2:14). The "for" here does not, as in some passages, imply vicarious substitution, but "in behalf of" (Heb 5:3; Pe1 2:24). It does not, however, mean merely "on account of," which is expressed by a different Greek word (Rom 4:25), (though in English Version translated similarly, "for").
according to the scriptures--which "cannot be broken." Paul puts the testimony of Scripture above that of those who saw the Lord after His resurrection [BENGEL]. So our Lord quotes Isa 53:12, in Luk 22:37; compare Psa 22:15, &c.; Dan 9:26.
buried . . . rose again--His burial is more closely connected with His resurrection than His death. At the moment of His death, the power of His inextinguishable life exerted itself (Mat 27:52). The grave was to Him not the destined receptacle of corruption, but an apartment fitted for entering into life (Act 2:26-28) [BENGEL].
rose again--Greek, "hath risen": the state thus begun, and its consequences, still continue.
seen of Cephas--Peter (Luk 24:34).
the twelve--The round number for "the Eleven" (Luk 24:33, Luk 24:36). "The Twelve" was their ordinary appellation, even when their number was not full. However, very possibly Matthias was present (Act 1:22-23). Some of the oldest manuscripts and versions read, "the Eleven": but the best on the whole, "the Twelve."
five hundred--This appearance was probably on the mountain (Tabor, according to tradition), in Galilee, when His most solemn and public appearance, according to His special promise, was vouchsafed (Mat 26:32; Mat 28:7, Mat 28:10, Mat 28:16). He "appointed" this place, as one remote from Jerusalem, so that believers might assemble there more freely and securely. ALFORD'S theory of Jerusalem being the scene, is improbable; as such a multitude of believers could not, with any safety, have met in one place in the metropolis, after His crucifixion there. The number of disciples (Act 1:15) at Jerusalem shortly after, was one hundred and twenty, those in Galilee and elsewhere not being reckoned. Andronicus and JUNIUS were, perhaps, of the number (Rom 16:7): they are said to be "among the apostles" (who all were witnesses of the resurrection, Act 1:22).
remain unto this present--and, therefore, may be sifted thoroughly to ascertain the trustworthiness of their testimony.
fallen asleep--in the sure hope of awaking at the resurrection (Act 7:60).
seen of James--the Less, the brother of our Lord (Gal 1:19). The Gospel according to the Hebrews, quoted by JEROME [On Illustrious Men, p. 170 D.], records that "James swore he would not eat bread from the hour that he drank the cup of the Lord, till he should see Him rising again from the dead."
all the apostles--The term here includes many others besides "the Twelve" already enumerated (Co1 15:5): perhaps the seventy disciples (Luk 10:1) [CHRYSOSTOM].
One born out of due time--Greek, "the one abortively born": the abortion in the family of the apostles. As a child born before the due time is puny, and though born alive, yet not of the proper size, and scarcely worthy of the name of man, so "I am the least of the apostles," scarcely "meet to be called an apostle"; a supernumerary taken into the college of apostles out of regular course, not led to Christ by long instruction, like a natural birth, but by a sudden power, as those prematurely born [GROTIUS]. Compare the similar image from childbirth, and by the same spiritual power, the resurrection of Christ (Pe1 1:3). "Begotten again by the resurrection of Jesus." Jesus' appearance to Paul, on the way to Damascus, is the one here referred to.
least--The name, "Paulus," in Latin, means "least."
I persecuted the church--Though God has forgiven him, Paul can hardly forgive himself at the remembrance of his past sin.
by . . . grace . . . and his grace--The repetition implies the prominence which God's grace had in his mind, as the sole cause of his marvellous conversion and subsequent labors. Though "not meet to be called an apostle," grace has given him, in Christ, the meetness needed for the office. Translate as the Greek, "His grace which was (showed) towards me."
what I am--occupying the honorable office of an apostle. Contrast with this the self-sufficient prayer of another Pharisee (Luk 18:11).
but I laboured--by God's grace (Phi 2:16).
than they all--than any of the apostles (Co1 15:7).
grace of God . . . with me--Compare "the Lord working with them" (Mar 16:20). The oldest manuscripts omit "which was." The "not I, but grace," implies, that though the human will concurred with God when brought by His Spirit into conformity with His will, yet "grace" so preponderated in the work, that his own co-operation is regarded as nothing, and grace as virtually the sole agent. (Compare Co1 3:9; Mat 10:20; Co2 6:1; Phi 2:12-13).
whether it were I or they--(the apostles) who "labored more abundantly" (Co1 15:10) in preaching, such was the substance of our preaching, namely, the truths stated in Co1 15:3-4.
if--Seeing that it is an admitted fact that Christ is announced by us eye-witnesses as having risen from the dead, how is it that some of you deny that which is a necessary consequence of Christ's resurrection, namely, the general resurrection?
some--Gentile reasoners (Act 17:32; Act 26:8) who would not believe it because they did not see "how" it could be (Co1 15:35-36).
If there be no general resurrection, which is the consequent, then there can have been no resurrection of Christ, which is the antecedent. The head and the members of the body stand on the same footing: what does not hold good of them, does not hold good of Him either: His resurrection and theirs are inseparably joined (compare Co1 15:20-22; Joh 14:19).
your faith . . . vain-- (Co1 15:11). The Greek for "vain" here is, empty, unreal: in Co1 15:17, on the other hand, it is, without use, frustrated. The principal argument of the first preachers in support of Christianity was that God had raised Christ from the dead (Act 1:22; Act 2:32; Act 4:10, Act 4:33; Act 13:37; Rom 1:4). If this fact were false, the faith built on it must be false too.
testified of God--that is, concerning God. The rendering of others is, "against God" [Vulgate, ESTIUS, GROTIUS]: the Greek preposition with the genitive implies, not direct antagonism (as the accusative would mean), but indirect to the dishonor of God. English Version is probably better.
if so be--as they assert. It is not right to tell untrue stories, though they are told and seem for the glory of God (Job 13:7).
The repetition implies the unanswerable force of the argument.
vain--Ye are, by the very fact (supposing the case to be as the skeptics maintained), frustrated of all which "your faith" appropriates: Ye are still under the everlasting condemnation of your sins (even in the disembodied state which is here referred to), from which Christ's resurrection is our justification (Rom 4:25): "saved by his life" (Rom 5:10).
fallen asleep in Christ--in communion with Christ as His members. "In Christ's case the term used is death, to assure us of the reality of His suffering; in our case, sleep, to give us consolation: In His case, His resurrection having actually taken place, Paul shrinks not from the term death; in ours, the resurrection being still only a matter of hope, he uses the term falling asleep" [PHOTIUS, QuÃ&brvbr;stiones AmphilochiÃ&brvbr;, 197].
perished--Their souls are lost; they are in misery in the unseen world.
If our hopes in Christ were limited to this life only, we should be, of all men, most to be pitied; namely, because, while others live unmolested, we are exposed to every trial and persecution, and, after all, are doomed to bitter disappointment in our most cherished hope; for all our hope of salvation, even of the soul (not merely of the body), hangs on the resurrection of Christ, without which His death would be of no avail to us (Eph 1:19-20; Pe1 1:3). The heathen are "without hope" (Eph 2:12; Th1 4:13). We should be even worse, for we should be also without present enjoyment (Co1 4:9).
now--as the case really is.
and become--omitted in the oldest manuscripts.
the first-fruits--the earnest or pledge, that the whole resurrection harvest will follow, so that our faith is not vain, nor our hope limited to this life. The time of writing this Epistle was probably about the Passover (Co1 5:7); the day after the Passover sabbath was that for offering the first-fruits (Lev 23:10-11), and the same was the day of Christ's resurrection: whence appears the appropriateness of the image.
by man . . . by man--The first-fruits are of the same nature as the rest of the harvest; so Christ, the bringer of life, is of the same nature as the race of men to whom He brings it; just as Adam, the bringer of death, was of the same nature as the men on whom he brought it.
in Adam all--in union of nature with Adam, as representative head of mankind in their fall.
in Christ . . . all--in union of nature with Christ, the representative head of mankind in their recovery. The life brought in by Christ is co-extensive with the death brought in by Adam.
But every man in his own order--rather, "rank": the Greek is not in the abstract, but concrete: image from troops, "each in his own regiment." Though all shall rise again, let not any think all shall be saved; nay, each shall have his proper place, Christ first (Col 1:18), and after Him the godly who die in Christ (Th1 4:16), in a separate band from the ungodly, and then "the end," that is, the resurrection of the rest of the dead. Christian churches, ministers, and individuals seem about to be judged first "at His coming" (Mat. 25:1-30); then "all the nations" (Mat. 25:31-46). Christ's own flock shall share His glory "at His coming," which is not to be confounded with "the end," or general judgment (Rev 20:4-6, Rev 20:11-15). The latter is not in this chapter specially discussed, but only the first resurrection, namely, that of the saints: not even the judgment of Christian hollow professors (Mat. 25:1-30) at His coming, is handled, but only the glory of them "that are Christ's," who alone in the highest sense "obtain the resurrection from the dead" (Luk 14:14; Luk 20:35-36; Phi 3:11; see on Phi 3:11). The second coming of Christ is not a mere point of time, but a period beginning with the resurrection of the just at His appearing, and ending with the general judgment. The ground of the universal resurrection is the union of all mankind in nature with Christ, their representative Head, who has done away with death, by His own death in their stead: the ground of the resurrection of believers is not merely this, but their personal union with Him as their "Life" (Col 3:4), effected causatively by the Holy Spirit, and instrumentally by faith as the subjective, and by ordinances as the objective means.
Then--after that: next in the succession of "orders" or "ranks."
the end--the general resurrection, and final judgment and consummation (Mat 25:46).
delivered up . . . kingdom to . . . Father--(Compare Joh 13:3). Seeming at variance with Dan 7:14, "His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away." Really, His giving up of the mediatorial kingdom to the Father, when the end for which the mediatorial economy was established has been accomplished, is altogether in harmony with its continuing everlastingly. The change which shall then take place, shall be in the manner of administration, not in the kingdom itself; God shall then come into direct connection with the earth, instead of mediatorially, when Christ shall have fully and finally removed everything that severs asunder the holy God and a sinful earth (Col 1:20). The glory of God is the final end of Christ's mediatorial office (Phi 2:10-11). His co-equality with the Father is independent of the latter, and prior to it, and shall, therefore, continue when its function shall have ceased. His manhood, too, shall everlastingly continue, though, as now, subordinate to the Father. The throne of the Lamb (but no longer mediatorial) as well as of God, shall be in the heavenly city (Rev 22:3; compare Rev 3:21). The unity of the Godhead, and the unity of the Church, shall be simultaneously manifested at Christ's second coming. Compare Zep 3:9; Zac 14:9; Joh 17:21-24. The oldest manuscripts for "shall have delivered up," read, "delivereth up," which suits the sense better. It is "when He shall have put down all rule," that "He delivereth up the kingdom to the Father."
shall have put down all rule--the effect produced during the millennary reign of Himself and His saints (Psa 110:1; Psa 8:6; Psa 2:6-9), to which passages Paul refers, resting his argument on the two words, "all" and "until," of the Psalmist: a proof of verbal inspiration of Scripture (compare Rev 2:26-27). Meanwhile, He "rules in the midst of His enemies" (Psa 110:2). He is styled "the King" when He takes His great power (Mat 25:34; Rev 11:15, Rev 11:17). The Greek for "put down" is, "done away with," or "brought to naught." "All" must be subject to Him, whether openly opposed powers, as Satan and his angels, or kings and angelic principalities (Eph 1:21).
must--because Scripture foretells it.
till--There will be no further need of His mediatorial kingdom, its object having been realized.
enemies under his feet-- (Luk 19:27; Eph 1:22).
shall be--Greek, "is done away with" (Rev 20:14; compare Rev 1:18). It is to believers especially this applies (Co1 15:55-57); even in the case of unbelievers, death is done away with by the general resurrection. Satan brought in sin, and sin brought in death! So they shall be destroyed (rendered utterly powerless) in the same order (Co1 15:56; Heb 2:14; Rev 19:20; Rev 20:10, Rev 20:14).
all things--including death (compare Eph 1:22; Phi 3:21; Heb 2:8; Pe1 3:22). It is said, "hath put," for what God has said is the same as if it were already done, so sure is it. Paul here quotes Psa 8:6 in proof of his previous declaration, "For (it is written), 'He hath put all things under His feet.'"
under his feet--as His footstool (Psa 110:1). In perfect and lasting subjection.
when he--namely, God, who by His Spirit inspired the Psalmist.
Son . . . himself . . . subject--not as the creatures are, but as a Son voluntarily subordinate to, though co-equal with, the Father. In the mediatorial kingdom, the Son had been, in a manner, distinct from the Father. Now, His kingdom shall merge in the Father's, with whom He is one; not that there is thus any derogation from His honor; for the Father Himself wills "that all should honor the Son, as they honor the Father" (Joh 5:22-23; Heb 1:6).
God . . . all in all--as Christ is all in all (Col 3:11; compare Zac 14:9). Then, and not till then, "all things," without the least infringement of the divine prerogative, shall be subject to the Son, and the Son subordinate to the Father, while co-equally sharing His glory. Contrast Psa 10:4; Psa 14:1. Even the saints do not fully realize God as their "all" (Psa 73:25) now, through desiring it; then each shall feel, God is all to me.
Else--if there be no resurrection.
what shall they do?--How wretched is their lot!
they . . . which are baptized for the dead--third person; a class distinct from that in which the apostle places himself, "we" (Co1 15:30); first person. ALFORD thinks there is an allusion to a practice at Corinth of baptizing a living person in behalf of a friend who died unbaptized; thus Paul, without giving the least sanction to the practice, uses an ad hominem argument from it against its practicers, some of whom, though using it, denied the resurrection: "What account can they give of their practice; why are they at the trouble of it, if the dead rise not?" [So Jesus used an ad hominem argument, Mat 12:27]. But if so, it is strange there is no direct censure of it. Some Marcionites adopted the practice at a later period, probably from taking this passage, as ALFORD does; but, generally, it was unknown in the Church. BENGEL translates, "over (immediately upon) the dead," that is, who will be gathered to the dead immediately after baptism. Compare Job 17:1, "the graves are ready for me." The price they get for their trouble is, that they should be gathered to the dead for ever (Co1 15:13, Co1 15:16). Many in the ancient Church put off baptism till near death. This seems the better view; though there may have been some rites of symbolical baptism at Corinth, now unknown, perhaps grounded on Jesus' words (Mat 20:22-23), which Paul here alludes to. The best punctuation is, "If the dead rise not at all, why are they then baptized for them" (so the oldest manuscripts read the last words, instead of "for the dead")?
we--apostles (Co1 15:9; Co1 4:9). A gradation from those who could only for a little time enjoy this life (that is, those baptized at the point of death), to us, who could enjoy it longer, if we had not renounced the world for Christ [BENGEL].
by your rejoicing--by the glorying which I have concerning you, as the fruit of my labors in the Lord. Some of the earliest manuscripts and fathers read "our," with the same sense. BENGEL understands "your rejoicing," to be the enjoyable state of the Corinthians, as contrasted with his dying daily to give his converts rejoicing or glorying (Co1 4:8; Co2 4:12, Co2 4:15; Eph 3:13; Phi 1:26). But the words, "which I have," favor the explanation--"the rejoicing which I have over you." Many of the oldest manuscripts and Vulgate insert "brethren" here.
I die daily--This ought to stand first in the sentence, as it is so put prominently forward in the Greek. I am day by day in sight of death, exposed to it, and expecting it (Co2 4:11-12; Co2 1:8-9; Co2 11:23).
Punctuate thus: "If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me? If the dead rise not, let us eat and drink," &c. [BENGEL]. If "merely as a man" (with the mere human hope of the present life; not with the Christian's hope of the resurrection; answering to "If the dead rise not," the parallel clause in the next sentence), I have fought with men resembling savage beasts. Heraclitus, of Ephesus, had termed his countrymen "wild beasts" four hundred years before. So Epimenides called the Cretians (Tit 1:12). Paul was still at Ephesus (Co1 16:8), and there his life was daily in danger (Co1 4:9; compare Co2 1:8). Though the tumult (Act 19:29-30) had not yet taken place (for after it he set out immediately for Macedonia), this Epistle was written evidently just before it, when the storm was gathering; "many adversaries" (Co1 16:9) were already menacing him.
what advantageth it me?--seeing I have renounced all that, "as a mere man," might compensate me for such sufferings, gain, fame, &c.
let us eat, &c.--Quoted from the Septuagint, (Isa 22:13), where the prophet describes the reckless self-indulgence of the despisers of God's call to mourning, Let us enjoy the good things of life now, for it soon will end. Paul imitates the language of such skeptics, to reprove both their theory and practice. "If men but persuade themselves that they shall die like the beasts, they soon will live like beasts too" [SOUTH].
evil communications corrupt good manners--a current saying, forming a verse in MENANDER, the comic poet, who probably took it from Euripides [SOCRATES, Ecclesiastical History, 3.16]. "Evil communications" refer to intercourse with those who deny the resurrection. Their notion seems to have been that the resurrection is merely spiritual, that sin has its seat solely in the body, and will be left behind when the soul leaves it, if, indeed, the soul survive death at all.
good--not only good-natured, but pliant. Intimacy with the profligate society around was apt to corrupt the principles of the Corinthians.
Awake--literally, "out of the sleep" of carnal intoxication into which ye are thrown by the influence of these skeptics (Co1 15:32; Joe 1:5).
to righteousness--in contrast with "sin" in this verse, and corrupt manners (Co1 15:33).
sin not--Do not give yourselves up to sinful pleasures. The Greek expresses a continued state of abstinence from sin. Thus, Paul implies that they who live in sinful pleasures readily persuade themselves of what they wish, namely, that there is to be no resurrection.
some--the same as in Co1 15:12.
have not the knowledge of God--and so know not His power in the resurrection (Mat 22:29). Stronger than "are ignorant of God." An habitual ignorance: wilful, in that they prefer to keep their sins, rather than part with them, in order to know God (compare Joh 7:17; Pe1 2:15).
to your shame--that you Corinthian Christians, who boast of your knowledge, should have among you, and maintain intercourse with, those so practically ignorant of God, as to deny the resurrection.
How--It is folly to deny a fact of REVELATION, because we do not know the "how." Some measure God's power by their petty intelligence, and won't admit, even on His assurance, anything which they cannot explain. Ezekiel's answer of faith to the question is the truly wise one (Eze 37:3). So Jesus argues not on principles of philosophy, but wholly from "the power of God," as declared by the Word of God (Mat 19:26; Mar 10:27; Mar 12:23; Luk 18:27).
come--The dead are said to depart, or to be deceased: those rising again to come. The objector could not understand how the dead are to rise, and with what kind of a body they are to come. Is it to be the same body? If so, how is this, since the resurrection bodies will not eat or drink, or beget children, as the natural bodies do? Besides, the latter have mouldered into dust. How then can they rise again? If it be a different body, how can the personal identity be preserved? Paul answers, In one sense it will be the same body, in another, a distinct body. It will be a body, but a spiritual, not a natural, body.
fool--with all thy boasted philosophy (Psa 14:1).
that which thou--"thou," emphatical: appeal to the objector's own experience: "The seed which thou thyself sowest." Paul, in this verse and in Co1 15:42, answers the question of Co1 15:35, "How?" and in Co1 15:37-41, Co1 15:43, the question, "With what kind of body?" He converts the very objection (the death of the natural body) into an argument. Death, so far from preventing quickening, is the necessary prelude and prognostication of it, just as the seed "is not quickened" into a new sprout with increased produce, "except it die" (except a dissolution of its previous organization takes place). Christ by His death for us has not given us a reprieve from death as to the life which we have from Adam; nay, He permits the law to take its course on our fleshly nature; but He brings from Himself new spiritual and heavenly life out of death (Co1 15:37).
not that body that shall be--a body beautiful and no longer a "bare grain" [BENGEL]. No longer without stalk or ear, but clothed with blade and ears, and yielding many grains instead of only one [GROTIUS]. There is not an identity of all the particles of the old and the new body. For the perpetual transmutation of matter is inconsistent with this. But there is a hidden germ which constitutes the identity of body amidst all outward changes: the outward accretions fall off in its development, while the germ remains the same. Every such germ ("seed," Co1 15:38) "shall have its own body," and be instantly recognized, just as each plant now is known from the seed that was sown (see on Co1 6:13). So Christ by the same image illustrated the truth that His death was the necessary prelude of His putting on His glorified body, which is the ground of the regeneration of the many who believe (Joh 12:24). Progress is the law of the spiritual, as of the natural world. Death is the avenue not to mere revivification or reanimation, but to resurrection and regeneration (Mat 19:28; Phi 3:21). Compare "planted," &c., Rom 6:5.
as it hath pleased him--at creation, when He gave to each of the (kinds of) seeds (so the Greek is for "to every seed") a body of its own (Gen 1:11, "after its kind," suited to its species). So God can and will give to the blessed at the resurrection their own appropriate body, such as it pleases Him, and such as is suitable to their glorified state: a body peculiar to the individual, substantially the same as the body sown.
Illustrations of the suitability of bodies, however various, to their species: the flesh of the several species of animals; bodies celestial and terrestrial; the various kinds of light in the sun, moon, and stars, respectively.
flesh--animal organism [DE WETTE]. He implies by the word that our resurrection bodies shall be in some sense really flesh, not mere phantoms of air [ESTIUS]. So some of the oldest creeds expressed it, "I believe in the resurrection of the flesh." Compare as to Jesus' own resurrection body, Luk 24:39; Joh 20:27; to which ours shall be made like, and therefore shall be flesh, but not of animal organism (Phi 3:21) and liable to corruption. But Co1 15:50 below implies, it is not "flesh and blood" in the animal sense we now understand them; for these "shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
not the same--not flesh of the same nature and excellency. As the kinds of flesh, however widely differing from one another, do not cease to be flesh, so the kinds of bodies, however differing from one another, are still bodies. All this is to illustrate the difference of the new celestial body from its terrestrial seed, while retaining a substantial identity.
another of fishes . . . another of birds--Most of the oldest manuscripts read thus, "another FLESH of birds . . . another of fishes": the order of nature.
celestial bodies--not the sun, moon, and stars, which are first introduced in Co1 15:41, but the bodies of angels, as distinguished from the bodies of earthly creatures.
the glory of the celestial-- (Luk 9:26).
glory of . . . terrestrial-- (Mat 6:28-29; Pe1 1:24).
one glory of . . . sun . . . another . . . of . . . moon--The analogy is not to prove different degrees of glory among the blessed (whether this may be, or not, indirectly hinted at), but this: As the various fountains of light, which is so similar in its aspect and properties, differ (the sun from the moon, and the moon from the stars; and even one star from another star, though all seem so much alike); so there is nothing unreasonable in the doctrine that our present bodies differ from our resurrection bodies, though still continuing bodies. Compare the same simile, appropriate especially in the clear Eastern skies (Dan 12:3; Mat 13:43). Also that of seed in the same parable (Mat 13:24; Gal 6:7-8).
sown--Following up the image of seed. A delightful word instead of burial.
in corruption--liable to corruption: corruptible: not merely a prey when dead to corruption; as the contrast shows, "raised in incorruption," that is, not liable to corruption: incorruptible.
in dishonour--answering to "our vile body" (Phi 3:21); literally, "our body of humiliation": liable to various humiliations of disease, injury, and decay at last.
in glory--the garment of incorruption (Co1 15:42-43) like His glorious body (Phi 4:21), which we shall put on (Co1 15:49, Co1 15:53; Co2 5:2-4).
in weakness--liable to infirmities (Co2 13:4).
in power--answering to a "spiritual body" (Co1 15:44; compare Luk 1:17, "Spirit and power"). Not liable to the weaknesses of our present frail bodies (Isa 33:24; Rev 21:4).
a natural body--literally, "an animal body," a body moulded in its organism of "flesh and blood" (Co1 15:50) to suit the animal soul which predominates in it. The Holy Spirit in the spirit of believers, indeed, is an earnest of a superior state (Rom 8:11), but meanwhile in the body the animal soul preponderates; hereafter the Spirit shall predominate, and the animal soul be duly subordinate.
spiritual body--a body wholly moulded by the Spirit, and its organism not conformed to the lower and animal (Luk 20:35-36), but to the higher and spiritual, life (compare Co1 2:14; Th1 5:23).
There is, &c.--The oldest manuscripts read, "IF there is a natural (or animal-souled) body, there is also a spiritual body." It is no more wonderful a thing, that there should be a body fitted to the capacities and want of man's highest part, his spirit (which we see to be the case), than that there should be one fitted to the capacities and wants of his subordinate part, the animal soul [ALFORD].
so--in accordance with the distinction just mentioned between the natural or animal-souled body and the spiritual body.
it is written-- (Gen 2:7); "Man became (was made to become) a living soul," that is, endowed with an animal soul, the living principle of his body.
the last Adam--the LAST Head of humanity, who is to be fully manifested in the last day, which is His day (Joh 6:39). He is so called in Job 19:25; see on Job 19:25 (compare Rom 5:14). In contrast to "the last," Paul calls "man" (Gen 2:7) "the FIRST Adam."
quickening--not only living, but making alive (Joh 5:21; Joh 6:33, Joh 6:39-40, Joh 6:54, Joh 6:57, Joh 6:62-63; Rom 8:11). As the natural or animal-souled body (Co1 15:44) is the fruit of our union with the first Adam, an animal-souled man, so the spiritual body is the fruit of our union with the second Adam, who is the quickening Spirit (Co2 3:17). As He became representative of the whole of humanity in His union of the two natures, He exhausted in His own person the sentence of death passed on all men, and giveth spiritual and everlasting life to whom He will.
afterward--Adam had a soul not necessarily mortal, as it afterwards became by sin, but "a living soul," and destined to live for ever, if he had eaten of the tree of life (Gen 3:22); still his body was but an animal-souled body, not a spiritual body, such as believers shall have; much less was he a "life-giving spirit," as Christ. His soul had the germ of the Spirit, rather than the fulness of it, such as man shall have when restored "body, soul, and spirit," by the second Adam (Th1 5:23). As the first and lower Adam came before the second and heavenly Adam, so the animal-souled body comes first, and must die before it be changed into the spiritual body (that is, that in which the Spirit predominates over the animal soul).
of the earth--inasmuch as being sprung from the earth, he is "earthy" (Gen 2:7; Gen 3:19, "dust thou art"); that is, not merely earthly or born upon the earth, but terrene, or of earth; literally, "of heaped earth" or clay. "Adam" means red earth.
the Lord--omitted in the oldest manuscripts and versions.
from heaven-- (Joh 3:13, Joh 3:31). Humanity in Christ is generic. In Him man is impersonated in his true ideal as God originally designed him. Christ is the representative man, the federal head of redeemed man.
As is the earthy--namely, Adam.
they . . . that are earthy--All Adam's posterity in their natural state (Joh 3:6-7).
the heavenly--Christ.
they . . . that are heavenly--His people in their regenerate state (Phi 3:20-21). As the former precedes the latter state, so the natural bodies precede the spiritual bodies.
as--Greek, "even as" (see Gen 5:3).
we shall also bear--or wear as a garment [BENGEL]. The oldest manuscripts and versions read, "We must also bear," or "let us also bear." It implies the divine appointment (compare "must," Co1 15:53) and faith assenting to it. An exhortation, and yet implying a promise (so Rom 8:29). The conformity to the image of the heavenly Representative man is to be begun here in our souls, in part, and shall be perfected at the resurrection in both bodies and souls.
(See on Co1 15:37; Co1 15:39). "Flesh and blood" of the same animal and corruptible nature as our present (Co1 15:44) animal-souled bodies, cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Therefore the believer acquiesces gladly in the unrepealed sentence of the holy law, which appoints the death of the present body as the necessary preliminary to the resurrection body of glory. Hence he "dies daily" to the flesh and to the world, as the necessary condition to his regeneration here and hereafter (Joh 3:6; Gal 2:20). As the being born of the flesh constitutes a child of Adam, so the being born of the Spirit constitutes a child of God.
cannot--Not merely is the change of body possible, but it is necessary. The spirit extracted from the dregs of wine does not so much differ from them, as the glorified man does from the mortal man [BENGEL] of mere animal flesh and blood (Gal 1:16). The resurrection body will be still a body though spiritual, and substantially retaining the personal identity; as is proved by Luk 24:39; Joh 20:27, compared with Phi 3:21.
the kingdom of God--which is not at all merely animal, but altogether spiritual. Corruption doth not inherit, though it is the way to, incorruption (Co1 15:36, Co1 15:52-53).
Behold--Calling attention to the "mystery" heretofore hidden in God's purposes, but now revealed.
you--emphatical in the Greek; I show (Greek, "tell," namely, by the word of the Lord, Th1 4:15) YOU, who think you have so much knowledge, "a mystery" (compare Rom 11:25) which your reason could never have discovered. Many of the old manuscripts and Fathers read, "We shall all sleep, but we shall not all be changed"; but this is plainly a corrupt reading, inconsistent with Th1 4:15, Th1 4:17, and with the apostle's argument here, which is that a change is necessary (Co1 15:53). English Version is supported by some of the oldest manuscripts and Fathers. The Greek is literally "We all shall not sleep, but," &c. The putting off of the corruptible body for an incorruptible by an instantaneous change will, in the case of "the quick," stand as equivalent to death, appointed to all men (Heb 9:27); of this Enoch and Elijah are types and forerunners. The "we" implies that Christians in that age and every successive age since and hereafter were designed to stand waiting, as if Christ might come again in their time, and as if they might be found among "the quick."
the last trump--at the sounding of the trumpet on the last day [VATABLUS] (Mat 24:31; Th1 4:16). Or the Spirit by Paul hints that the other trumpets mentioned subsequently in the Apocalypse shall precede, and that this shall be the last of all (compare Isa 27:13; Zac 9:14). As the law was given with the sound of a trumpet, so the final judgment according to it (Heb 12:19; compare Exo 19:16). As the Lord ascended "with the sound of a trumpet" (Psa 47:5), so He shall descend (Rev 11:15). The trumpet was sounded to convoke the people on solemn feasts, especially on the first day of the seventh month (the type of the completion of time; seven being the number for perfection; on the tenth of the same month was the atonement, and on the fifteenth the feast of tabernacles, commemorative of completed salvation out of the spiritual Egypt, compare Zac 14:18-19); compare Psa 50:1-7. Compare His calling forth of Lazarus from the grave "with a loud voice," Joh 11:43, with Joh 5:25, Joh 5:28.
and--immediately, in consequence.
this--pointing to his own body and that of those whom he addresses.
put on--as a garment (Co2 5:2-3).
immortality--Here only, besides Ti1 6:16, the word "immortality" is found. Nowhere is the immortality of the soul, distinct from the body, taught; a notion which many erroneously have derived from heathen philosophers. Scripture does not contemplate the anomalous state brought about by death, as the consummation to be earnestly looked for (Co2 5:4), but the resurrection.
then--not before. Death has as yet a sting even to the believer, in that his body is to be under its power till the resurrection. But then the sting and power of death shall cease for ever.
Death is swallowed up in victory--In Hebrew of Isa 25:8, from which it is quoted, "He (Jehovah) will swallow up death in victory"; that is, for ever: as "in victory" often means in Hebrew idiom (Jer 3:5; Lam 5:20). Christ will swallow it up so altogether victoriously that it shall never more regain its power (compare Hos 6:2; Hos 13:14; Co2 5:4; Heb 2:14-15; Rev 20:14; Rev 21:4).
Quoted from Hos 13:14, substantially; but freely used by the warrant of the Spirit by which Paul wrote. The Hebrew may be translated, "O death, where are thy plagues? Where, O Hades, is thy destruction?" The Septuagint, "Where is thy victory (literally, in a lawsuit), O death? Where is thy sting, O Hades? . . . Sting" answers to the Hebrew "plagues," namely, a poisoned sting causing plagues. Appropriate, as to the old serpent (Gen 3:14-15; Num 21:6). "Victory" answers to the Hebrew "destruction." Compare Isa 25:7, "destroy . . . veil . . . over all nations," namely, victoriously destroy it; and to "in victory" (Co1 15:54), which he triumphantly repeats. The "where" implies their past victorious destroying power and sting, now gone for ever; obtained through Satan's triumph over man in Eden, which enlisted God's law on the side of Satan and death against man (Rom 5:12, Rom 5:17, Rom 5:21). The souls in Hades being freed by the resurrection, death's sting and victory are gone. For "O grave," the oldest manuscripts and versions read, "O death," the second time.
If there were no sin, there would be no death. Man's transgression of the law gives death its lawful power.
strength of sin is the law--Without the law sin is not perceived or imputed (Rom 3:20; Rom 4:15; Rom 5:13). The law makes sin the more grievous by making God's will the clearer (Rom 7:8-10). Christ's people are no longer "under the law" (Rom 6:14).
to God--The victory was in no way due to ourselves (Psa 98:1).
giveth--a present certainty.
the victory--which death and Hades ("the grave") had aimed at, but which, notwithstanding the opposition of them, as well as of the law and sin, we have gained. The repetition of the word (Co1 15:54-55) is appropriate to the triumph gained.
beloved--Sound doctrine kindles Christian love.
steadfast--not turning aside from the faith of the resurrection of yourselves.
unmovable--not turned aside by others (Co1 15:12; Col 1:23).
the work of the Lord--the promotion of Christ's kingdom (Phi 2:30).
not in vain--as the deniers of the resurrection would make it (Co1 15:14, Co1 15:17).
in the Lord--applying to the whole sentence and its several clauses: Ye, as being in the Lord by faith, know that your labor in the Lord (that is, labor according to His will) is not to be without its reward in the Lord (through His merits and according to His gracious appointment).

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This is the community supported Dell OpenManage 6.3 repository for 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10 and later versions. Below, you will find instructions to install and setup OpenManage command-line and web interfaces.
1. Create a new file ending in 'sources.list' in the '/etc/apt/sources.list.d' directory.
echo 'deb http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/deb/latest /' | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linux.dell.com.sources.list
2. Make apt aware of the new software repository by issuing the following command:
sudo apt-get update
3. Install one of the following selection of meta-packages to install the OMSA functionality you require:
srvadmin-all:Install all OMSA components
srvadmin-base:Install only base OMSA, no web server
srvadmin-rac4:Install components to manage the Dell Remote Access Card 4
srvadmin-rac5:Install components to manage the Dell Remote Access Card 5
srvadmin-idrac:Install components to manage iDRAC
srvadmin-webserver:Install Web Interface
srvadmin-storageservices:Install RAID Management
For example, to install complete OMSA: sudo apt-get install srvadmin-all
sudo service dataeng start
Now, you can use omreport, omconfig, and omhelp commands.
For example, you can issue omreport system summary to get details about your system.
You can use omconfig to configure component properties.
omhelp provides help information for commands.
See OpenManage CLI User's Guide for comprehensive documentation.
To use web interface, users with appropriate permissions need to be added.
1. Add users with appropriate permissions to /opt/dell/srvadmin/etc/omarolemap file. See detailed information at Setup and Administration
Example:john_doe * Administrator
2. Start the web server.
sudo service dsm_om_connsvc start
3. Go to https://<ip_address>:1311/ in your browser to access OMSA.
4. If you want to start dsm_om_connvsc service at boot, issue sudo update-rc.d dsm_om_connsvc defaults command.
For questions and feedback, please use linux-poweredge mailing list.
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