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Evil Dead. Thanks God!
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Evil Dead. Thanks God!
For those who feel Balasaheb stood up for the Hinus forget that when he formed his party he targeted South Indians who were Hindus. In recent years he has been targeting North Indians ( UP-ites, Biharis etc) who are hindus as well.
For those who feel he stood for Marathi must know that he sent his own kids and grand kids to English medium school while asking his party members to send their kids to Marathi medium school.
For those who think he stood for "Marathi asmita" must know that his party was at the forefront of organizing Michael Jackson show in 1980s.
For those who feel he stood for Mumbai must realize that he did nothing for the city except terrify the local population. did he create any good institution, any good school, any good hospital, any good cultutal research centre etc?
Those who feel he was against muslims must realize that he hosted Javed Mianded's relatives. Javed is realted to Dawood Ibrahim - curently No 1 on India's and World's wanted list.
There are 2 positives though - In 1984 when sikhs were being butchered in Delhi and elsewhere post Indira Gandhi's assasination, Mumbai provided respite to them. Secondly when Kashimiri pundits were accommodated in their own country, Mumbai provided them hope.
He had a big fan following, commanded immense loyalty from his cadre, but am not sure what he stood for.
Beside Sikhs & Kashmiri Pundits one major point you forgot - he was only one who opposed Mandal. He openly expressed his views on pro merit and anti reservation – even though over 70% of his ShivSaniks were OBCs. In a way he way he was always fought for person wronged and so wrong doers hated him! May call him Don for this but he remained new dawn of truth and political incorrectness in hypocrite Indian society.
Thanx 4 being truthful. May God bless u.
The criticism of Thackrey on this forum today speaks more to the culture of the people criticizing rather than the reality of Thackrey's being goonda or not.
These people are so driven by their hatred towards Maharashtra and towards Thackrey tha they forget that Thackrey is just a reaction to the treatment that Maharashtra and Marathi people have received since independence. You can blame Thackrey all you want but why can't you be grateful for the opportunities you had in Maharashtra, why can't you speak Marathi, why can't you set aside your biases and extend the same opportunities to others without bias that you yourself received?
I see south Indian in Maharashtra trying to hire south indians only. I see north Indians trying to hire their own folks in Railways and anything that is central government. And you accuse Thackrey of goondagardi when all he did is point finger at those who actually did this? Shame on you.
Yes Shiledar that's right.
If we think rationally-Example- I am travelling in a semi vacant bus, and I have to pick my brother from next stop. I would make a conscience effort to occupy that seat.
Late Bal Thackeray did the same....only difference is that he thought everyone in Mumbai was his family.
terrifictamak - I think India belongs to everyone and if the bus is indeed semi-vacant - it is not a problem to reserve a seat. But the bus is not semi-vacant. And more importantly we need to have people go ahead based on their merit - rather than the religion color or sex or where they come from. Thackrey's methods may be wrong but how can we ignore the problems he tried to address?
Please name one problem he managed to solve in his lifetime ?
How about the mumbai flyovers? How about India's first expressway between Pune-Mumbai that he conceived which Vajapayee implemented? How about thousands of Marathi speaking youth that were provided jobs and small business.
But regardless - are you saying that if Thackrey didn't solve a problem means the problem doesn't exist? When will you take your head out of the sand?
Now why don't you tell me one thing Sonia Gandhi has accomplished?
Shiledar-You are spot on .It remains a challenge...
I have great regard for Mahrashtrians and Marathi culture. But when I think of Maharashtra I think of Gokhale, Tilak, Rani Lakshmi Bai, Shivaji. These were people of courage and inspired people beyond their communities. They did not divide people.
Why do you equate BT with Maharashtra. You do your own people a great disservice. There are far greater heroes who raise your pride and that of the nation.
Don't let hate undo what greatness lies within each of us and our communities. I think most people here are commenting on a person, not on a community.
I couldn't agree more about competence/merit based progress.
India absolutely belongs to all of us and all of us are free to go and make progress everywhere.
I do not think that all people commenting here are as objective as you are. And I believe you would agree that it is particularly insensitive and in poor taste to talk ill of dead especially when the person was revered by so many and especially when he died a day or two back.
I can see and understand - right and wrong have nothing to do with it - hatred of Mr Thackeray as he was a divisive and polarising figure. Ok! BUT, who are these people who are so driven by their hatred towards Maharashtra whom you refer to? And why on earth would there be hatred towards Maharashtra from these people? In my case, I am a refugee, just like hundreds thousands of others from my community, from Karachi in particular and the province of Sind in general. And the vast majority of us settled after partition in Bombay. I think I am accurate in saying that members of my community have greatly enriched the commercial life and prosperity of urbs primus in Indis. And so have hundreds of thousands of Indians from other parts of India. And so have also hundreds of thousands of people whose mother tongue is Marathi.
As far as south Indians hiring other south Indians (this means people from EVERY state in South India from states that all speak different languages), and north Indians (ditto), blah blah are difficult, if not impossible to believe. What does the guy from Haryana have in common with the guy from Bihar? Or the gal from Kerala with the gal from Andhra? None of them speak the same language. So, why are you lumping all north Indians together and ditto for south Indians? We Indians have the unfortunate tendency to hire people from the same village, the same caste, the same whatever. That sucks! When I was working in Bombay, I remember one department where all the workers were from the same village in Ratnagiri. And replacements/additional hirings were only made from the same village. So, what does all this prove? Yes, we all ought to take a much broader and more inclusive view of the world (India) in every way possible re caste, creed religion, employment . . . whatever.
I hate to say this and forgive me if you think I am out of line, but do you have a persecution complex?
The veryveryvery bottom line, at least for me, is this: me and hundreds of thousands of my fellow Bombayites have been long ago totally turned off by Mr Thackeray and the Shiv Sena PURELY because of the intimidation coercion threats tendency to violence at the slightest provocation. Of course, an argument can be made that well, We (the SS) are forced to resort to unconstittional methods because legal ones have brought us no redress . . . Do you, Shri Shiledar, REALLY wish to use this argument?
Kanishka - let me ask you - do you have a superiority complex? Is that why most of immigrant community doesn't speak marathi? Is that why you said - we enriched Mumbai? That's BS to me. Show me how rich Sindhis are outside of Mumbai vs in Mumbai. Same goes with every other community. So why this hypocracy of not admitting that something magical exists about mumbai and that is the Marathi virtues of fairly equal society that benefited from reformist agenda. I just don't get it - you speak volumes and volumes but evade the key things. That is absolutely disingenuous.
Thackrey certainly may have turned off Bombayites - for he was for mumbaikars - not bombayites. Yes of course intimidation and coercion was involved and I do not condone that. But indeed tell me - he dared to speak truth in the world where political correctness was pushed down the throat of common man.
As I said - your critical mentality in face of his death speaks to your own culture and how ungrateful you are to Marathi society. You may have individual hatred for this man. But you need to respect millions of Marathi people who have come to regard him. And by posting BS upon his death - you are not making it any more easy.
Also let me say unequivocally, that hiring only people you identify with - Tamil Telugu or Punjabi or whatever - can't be condoned. I do not consider that particularly funny.
what about the treatment the Marathi speaking plundering marauders who ravaged East, North and South India from the period of 1740-1780? Was it not more savage an exploitation than being faced by the so called 'Marathi Maanoosh'
Well you would rather be raped by Muslim invaders. So go to Kashmir or better yet Pakistan.
Maratha Empire - was not without its faults. But lets not forget that it saved India from the advent of Islam.
Thackeray is no more.Thackeray is everywhere in Maharastra.Each and every Shiv Sena he has left behind is a Thackeray waiting to drive away even the domestic temporary migrants who came from the other parts of India irrespective of faiths they practice.During his life time,Thackeray could not keep the violent party he founded as an united and well disciplined outfit.The passing away of the godfather from the scene will surely encourage the secularists but his divided followers will continue to exist in Maharastra for sometimes more.
Too Creative a mind you have dear! :)
What made you think so?Rest assured,History will judge him properly in due course.
Mr. Sharma--as your name suggest u r from somewhere in North India. so beware your 'Dignity/Honour/Safety/Tranquility' in Maharashtra. The Shiv Senaa if they launch an anti Hindi campaign. Bhagwaan be with u...
He was a great man, no doubt, as the crowd at his funeral indicated. But unlike Karunanidhi, while alive he could not keep his house in order. One of his arm was cut when his nephew Raj left the fold taking with him a % of his followers. On this matter there was nothing greatness on him.
Great For Being Such A Parochial-Hate Mongering Evil..
You are Evil as well as a Coward who is speaking hate after a dead man. A man revered by millions in a land that you seem to have benefited from.
Before Shiv Sena's advent, Hindus were always at the receiving end of Muslim mob frenzy. Bal Thackeray put an end to it and forged a kind of detente between the two communities, ensuring communal peace and harmony.
spot on brother.........yes bt did put the fear of god into some religious folks who created serious problems
Mr. Reddy forget he and his party were also aginst Tamil Telugu speaking migrants to Maharashtra. Be it Hindu or non-Hindu(was never an issue for the man and his followers)
So how well can you speak Hindi in Chennai? Ever tried that?
This article failed to do the basic job of explaining readers how Thackeray transformed from a Cartoonist to Political leader with a mass appeal among poor and downtrodden Marathi Hindu? What events and conditions helped this transformation?
It's downright dishonest to lay all blame, on Thackeray, for 1992 riots. In reality, Islamist, who got angry in wake of demolition at Ayodhya, started attacking Hindus. In first 2 days( January 6 and 7 1992) of rioting, 34 Hindus and 8 Muslims got killed, 138 Hindus and 34 Muslims were injured. On January 8 1992 at 0030 hours, 6 Hindus, including 5 women, residing at Radhabai Chawl were burnt alive. Radhabai Chawl massacre triggered Hindu backlash. For 3 days, Govt. did little least it upset Muslim vote-bank(1). Govt. lacked political will to protect Marathi Hindu slum dwellers, Hence, They run to savior Thackeray.
(*) All numbers cited are from official government reports published by Justice Sri Krishna Commission for Mumbai.
(1) This is the story of all civil unrest world-wide. Everybody, govt, opposition, Media, HR org etc, have same standard "If my supporters are rioting then kid-glove else iron-fist". For example, During 1968 post MLK riots, J Edger Hoover suggested shooting the rioters and Mayor Walter Washington refused.
U r fittest person to be the 'Chief Lying Propaganda' Officer for the party called Shiv Senaa.
LoL.... somebody is just burning with hate!
Without hidden support of Industrialists of Mumbai and soft corner of Government of Maharastra Thackeray never become so great leader.Both supported him for their selfish purpose.He was puppet of both parties.He had no independent views on any problems.He had no programme for welfare of Marathi Manus.He manipulated poor Marathi people and enjoy wealth and honour lavishly
After his death you north Indians have no simple manners how to react.Backward North India is a biggest on rest of India and developed states of western India are sharing burden of these downtrodden or puppets.
close here waste of time
pramod gokhale
Reformist Agenda for Shiv Sena
This is a turning point for Shivsena and it can seize the day to become a relevant and social organisation.
All it has to do is to start widespread educational facilities, libraries and medical facilities and old people homes and such like.
It can become a means of social transformation with a new agenda.
Otherwise it will become a cartoon like the ones its founder used to draw.
You actually make sense here....
Makes me wonder why you reserve your trolling for Pakistan related stories only?
Peace from Lahore...
The Acid Test of Mindless Sycophancy
All the so called great politicians and the larger than life Heroes of Bollywood and even Businessmen like Tata competed with each other to heap ( undeserved) praise and homage on this goon.
Merely as an insurance policy against a "headlesss" shiv sena .
The Maharashtra Govt displayed complete spinelessness in the matter and the mumbai police is infiltrated by the sainiks at the lower level and mortally afraid at the senior levels.
All in all a bleak future for Mumbai with the Maha Corrupt NCP at one side and the Maha Violent Shiv Sena at the other.
In short, thats how the hen that lays a golden egg is killed.
Dear Gautambudhu, If you re-read the "tribute" issued by Mr Ratan Tata after the death of Mr Thackeray, you will find that it is very cleverly worded. There is a deliberate ambiguity in the choice of words and on reading it, a person can easily conclude that this "tribute" is actually a backhanded compliment. My hat is off to Mr Tata: he joins in the tributes paid but retains his honour by his choice of words.
A more sensitive assessment of Mr. Thackeray, in the broader context of India and the Indian sub-continent will be more accurate, in terms of ground reality.
a) Anti-immigrant feelings are pretty universal, including in advanced countries. There is something not right when immigrants over-whelm the natives, make them powerless and irrelevant in their ancestral land - whether because of military conquest or uncontrolled immigration, including a flood of job-seekers.
Mumbai has always welcomed people. Today, it is one of the MOST DIVERSE cities of the world - in ethnicity, religion, art and music. Everyone is busy there, most days are peaceful, revolving around strong business activities.
Shiv Sena, true, used muscle at times, ensuring that there would NOT be gangs formed by the different immigrant groups. This is a less noticed feature of the Sena's work. In this and other ways, the Sena ensured a peaceful and profitable Mumbai for everyone.
Mr. Thackeray did not want to see Mahrati Mumbai, turn into a Karachi or Londonisthan, over-whelmed by immigrants.
Karachi, a historic city from which Sindhi-Hindu merchants traded with ancient Egypt, Babylone, Assyria and Rome is today a battle ground for the Pathans and Mohajirs (of Indian descent), for Sunni and Shia 'senas' (armies). Native Sindhi culture has been sent back to pre-historic times.
London, likewise, does not look like a part of England any longer.
2) Mr.Thackeray wanted a fair share of jobs in growing Mumbai for the Mahrati working class, their lower middle class. Every province in India does that, why not the Mahrattas - the last of the large, independent Hindu Kingdoms that lasted well into the 19th century.
With the exception of New Delhi, every other Indian city manouvres to ensure jobs 'for the sons of the soil'. They all have Thackeray like figures, not quite as famous as him.
The old city of Hydrabad has a Muslim outfit, MIM, which too ensures 'jobs for the boys', if necessary using some of its own 'muscle men'. Sadly, they do not have the numbers that Mr.Thackeray could organise in Mumbai. But this MIM puts put a powerful show, notwithstanding their minority status, or may be on account of it!!
3) India's 'political types' are given to making strong, perhaps, extreme, statements. But often their 'bark is worse their bite'. Mr.Thackeray and his Shiv Sena were slow to interfere with another community, even where he inveighed against South Indians or Biharis, those communities continued to grow in Mumbai, mostly living well.
Given the ineffective congress governments Mumbai and Maharashtra has had, Mr.Thackeray had to force their hands in maintaining a semblance of order in Mumbai.
It is not entirely surprising that the ordinary Mahrattas feel that Mr.Thackeray had done a job that needed doing.
I can understand the points 'Shiledar' has made below.
If you like, Mr. Thackeray was the Enoch Powell of India. Both men did a job, a difficult but risky job. I do not view either of them as 'monsters'.
I will just sink a wee bit more into history. As you may know, Marathis too are immigrants to Bombay. In fact when the British took over the islands, and the famous Gerald Aungier (who Indians have forgotten unlike Singaporeans who still remember Raffles)wrote the first charter for the city in the 1670s, it was published in English and Kannada (no Marathi). The city composed of koli fishermen, portugese and catholics, and was guarded by Nayaks hailing from Kanara (Kannada) region. [Refer works on Bombay by DE Wacha and Malabari]. It is also a fact that neither Maratha armies nor Shivaji ever set foot on the island of Bombay.
However, owing to proximity, the marathi influx increased around 1850s when businesses thrived in Bombay owing to Cotton demand shifting to India due to US civil war. These are some facts, to remind readers that history is what we make of it. And the best way to interpret history is to reflect on its impressions for the future. And this is how I think we should interpret our history to create a map for the future:-
Bombay was a financial powerhouse of Asia at the time of independence. Political goondaism and lack of any focus on governance has crumbled the city to a breaking point. There is an urgent need to establish the supremacy of rule of law to give residents the trust of building a future in this city.
And as far as welcoming people is concerned, think again. Mumbai does not welcome, it gets whatever wants to come here. There is no plan in welcoming some one or the other. Earlier the Sena's fight was against job creators (Gujaratis, south indian cafe owners et al). Gradually the flow of job creating talent is ebbing. The most talented minds from India prefer a Singapore over Bombay. Standard Chartered Bank's biggest business interest in Asia is in India yet it chooses to be head quartered in Singapore. The job creators are leaving. Atlas is shrugging. Gradually the Sena's fight has veered from job creators to job chasers like milk men and taxi drivers. Think about this transition carefully and what it means.
There are two paths still ahead of us. A Bombay that "attracts" talent and focuses on competence or a Mumbai that "amplifies divisions" and focuses on identity. The legacy in question needs critical evaluation, and cannot be condoned. Let the lesson not be lost.
Divisiveness is nothing short of monstrous and India should be careful in the heroes it elevates. The heroes we elevate will determine how future generations think, behave and act. This will have a historic import for a diverse country whose creation itself is nothing short of a miracle in the history of the world. Lets be careful and do ourselves the service of thinking well before elevating someone on a pedestal.
do you even know the kolis who inhabited mumbai were marathi speaking and catholics you were speaking of were koli converts who today we know as east indians are marathi speaking catholics hailing from mumbai and surrounding places ,marathi speaking people are real inhabitant of mumbai just check your facts before you write something, gujaratis and parsis arrived in mumbai only after british came,and yes just because maratha armies never ruled mumbai does that make it lesser marathi so in that sense most of india was under maratha rule in late 17th century so why not call entire india as property of marathis ,just for the sake of imroving your knowledge about mumbais history why dont u read books like oldest races of bombays,history of bombay that would certainly help you to know about mumbais history.
My friend, maybe my point was not clear enough to you. It is this - History is what you make of it. What are the lessons you want to apply for the future.
Even if you ably argue that one community dominated, does it take away the possible learning for the future that the best years of Bombay were when it focussed on developing competence rather than be led by identity.
And that is the choice we have to make.
We can choose to be emotional about it at our own peril. India's future and its heroes must embody values of inclusive growth, not identity based strife.
And that is the point I wish to make on the matter. Lets choose our heroes wisely.
first of all i have never said that identity politics should be encouraged ,but what im saying is identity politics has become part and parcel of indian politics rather indian social system as whole is based on some sort of identity or other then be it based on region,caste,religion,language etc most of politicians today all over the country plays identity politics be it north,south ,east,west, then why single out maharashtra its not that maharashtra has laid the foundation of it,whether we like it or not in country as diverse as india rise of regional heroes (in absence of someone on national level who really plays politics of development without any prejudice with whom people from all over india can identify )is inevitable.
asj - this is hatred of Maharashtra and its success. That makes them blind to understand that success is a function of law and order and equal opportunity. All societies are intelligent. But they need a few extra ingredients to be successful. Maharashtra had it because of 700 years of reformist agenda. Which is why Mumbai could only be in Maharashtra. With their narrow mindset these people can't produce another mumbai in their own backyard.
Mumbai is looted by the central government left and right. 60% of excise tax is collected to driven to center and the money diverted to inefficient and corrupt states - including good for nothing terrorist kashmir. Mumbai's natural gas is diverted to Hajira at central government expense when mumbai government had 20 years back put up a plan to provide gas to its residents via pipes at mumbai governments expense. Mumbai trains are in profit and are rarely upgraded. All that money gone to line pockets of corrupt railway ministers and their north indian corrupt lobby.
As I said many times - these people are driven by their jealousy that they will never give Marathi people their dues.
My friend, I agree with you and am happy to see your message. I too believe in the need for regional heroes, but why do they need to be divisive? Let me share with you my vision of heroes who are regional but inspirational for the whole country....Sardar Patel is a regional hero who has inspired a nation. Sachin Tendulkar inspires a whole nation, Dr. Verghese Kurien a Malyalee in Gujarat who is the hero of an entire nation, E Sreedharan, another malayalee in Delhi and the creator of Delhi Metro is a hero for a nation, Dr APJ Abdul Kalam from TN. As we come closer to Nov 26, lets not forget Tukaram Omble, a police officer whose qualities of duty, courage and sacrifice not only makes him a regional role model but a national one. It is for us to remember such heroes. Who will we choose to remember?
And that is why I say, lets choose our heroes carefully. Even today there are heroes all around us. We as people must not settle for politics of divisiveness. And each of these people show us that even regional heroes need not be divisive. But the question is which hero do you want to put on a pedestal? Those who inspire our basic human values or those in the words of tagore "fragment us in narrow domestic walls"?
I have no complaint against any community. All I am saying is that Mumbai was the financial capital of Asia at the time of independence. To regain that stature, we must move away from politics of identity and focus on competence. We the people need to demand the change and not fall victims to suspicion and hate each other, fed by paranoia of politicians.
I like Obama's words - We are greater than the sum of our individual ambitions. It captures the vision our founding fathers had who believed we are stronger together. Our choices of heroes will decide if future generations possess the values of hope, faith and courage to achieve this dream. Divisive regional heroes will not. So lets choose our heroes carefully.
Shiledar, think again, Whether it is I who speak hatred or you who wish to spread the same.
Read my post carefully. Mumbai is crumbling. Whether it is because of migrants or because of governance is another issue. But what future do we together want for the city? One based on identity or one based on competence of the best?
Find a way - again - I think we agree on some fundamentals - i.e. merit / competence / India is one / rights of people to make their future all over india.
We clearly differ on a few other issues. But as long as somebody like you dont denigrate others - I and many others can live with that.
What truly has pissed me off on this forum is the sheer jealousy and hatred towards a leader who died 2 days back and whom 2 million people thought tall enough to walk physically to his funeral.
I am otherwise an extremely liberal person who has highly criticzed Raj Thackrey and has message. But the messages on this forum has made me rethink my position.
Hi Shiledar
What you see is a free flow of emotions a person evoked. It is clear he evoked admiration in many and extreme dislike in few others. The question is basically about what choices we make with this information.
We must and absolutely must NOT believe that the overwhelming view here is about a community. It is not. It is about a person. And the community is greater than any one person.
We are all drops in the same ocean. If more of us can become objective and demand qualities of uniting people, humanity, rule of law and good governance rather than identity based politics, the ocean will automatically clear up and India will be what the founding fathers dreamt it to be.
No denying the fact that Balasaheb was a mass leader, nay, a father -figure to millions. Sometimes circumstances make one as tough as he looked because the powerful and the elite do not understand any other language. They have money and word-power which is not that visible but is even more subduing for the people than Balasaheb's apparent street ways. Yesterday a young girl's facebook remarks sent Shiv Sainiks into a rage and so the girl was arrested. Everybody is condemning the arrest but I think people should also see the situation through the affected party's eyes as well. Here is my effort: http://bigtamasha.blogspot.in/2012/11/the-girl-who-commented-on-balasahe...
Thackeray is not an Indian name, so I have been told.
When I was in Bombay/Mumbai a while ago, I was told the Thackeray (not Thackry) was inordinately proud of his name. He claimed that he was descended from Thackeray, the nineteenth century English author, as a consequence of a liaison during a brief visit to Bombay.
Whether it was true or not, I don't know. But Bombayites are inordinately proud of their past, keeping statues of Queen Victoria and other Imperial figures, and of course retaining the name and building of Victoria Station. A somewhat schizophrenic place, in a number of directions.
Thackeray is also an English surname, true. The pronunciation is different in Mahratti (I am not a native speaker of it). I believe is a wholly Mahratti name, unconnected with the English one.
The Mahratti Thackerays are not 'Anglo-Indians' by race. They are wholly Indian.
There are many Indian names which, by coincidence, are similar to British and European names - Asher, Grover, Mann, Pal (Paul), Ayyar and many, many more.
A coincidence, unless one can trace some Indo-European, common origins.
I have been surprised to find the names 'Indarman' and 'Indra' amongst some East Europeans. It is a Vedic name, now current amongst Sikhs, as in Jogindar, Jaswindar and so on.
Der Perfesser - Thackrey actually is an English name. Balasaheb's grandfather adopted that name based on this English author - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Makepeace_Thackeray - of who Balasaheb's grandfather apparently was a fan.
The relationship - between British and India people is not as bad as with other colonies and their colonial owners. But having said that I certainly feel that part of independence is to remove at least things that are signs of the foreign rule and especially atrocities.
Yes, I believe Bal Thackeray spelt his name in the English fashion. Maybe he just liked to encourage the supposed connection!
On your other observations, I cannot see the harm in keeping visible connections to the past, if as in Bombay the people seem proud of them.
I actually got on the 'phone to confirm the spelling and the rumor of T's antecedents. The spelling was confirmed, and also Bombayites pride in their past, including physical evidence of English rule. Indeed I was told that the change of name of Bombay to Mumbai was not at all popular. Now that Thackeray is gone, olive branches are already going out to other sections of the community that the name be changed back to Bombay. It seems that political reality and the need for infrastructure investment trumps any concentrated nationalistic feelings in their Party.
People of mumbai don't prefer name mumbai any less than people from chennai prefer chennai or people from bengaluru prefer just that.
Majority of Marathi people always called Mumbai - Mumbai and will love calling it mumbai.
Globalization doesn't mean forgetting your roots and culture. All over the world people have wiped out signs of slavery and insult and installed things that instill national pride in future generations. India is no different.
I didnt support the change of name either, but my motivations were simply that "there are more useful things to do". That being said, India's colonial past is nothing to be proud or even remembered. We are grateful, that in India, our history text book dont dwell in details about what the Raj actually was. From 32% of world GDP to a country where 80% had bare resources to feed themselves even twice a day!! From a country full of resources, to a place where "Indians and Dogs are not allowed". As I learnt more and travelled around the world more, I realize how great it was for India to actually "forgive" Britain, something similar to what Mandela did in RSA. And the limit for humanity should end there! (People who clamour for more should at least give some proof where they themselves have done more in such scenarios)
Liex You put it very eloquently.
I cannot lay to rest this particular thread without replying to the "Indians and dogs" remark.
This was NEVER allowed in India. Provide evidence or a photograph of such a notice! The ICS would have stamped on it immediately, and such a notice would have been probably illegal. Yes, such a notice regarding Chinese appeared in Shanghai. But not in India. A lot of nonsense is written in Indian history books.
As for the 32% of worlds GDP claim, if it is true, that was in 1400 when total world GDP was very much lower. Similarly "exploitation" claims - Britain made a net loss ruling India every year from 1840 to 1940. Your history books need to be re-written and updated.
First of all, please re-read my comment. Indian history books DONT dwell on it. Indians are way more liberal than you would imagine. Try to think if China looted all your wealth by force, would you forgive her. And if you did, wont it be something great?
Second, "Dogs and Indians" remark, kid yourself however you may, such remarks were common. Btw, it wasnt just India, it was also used against Jews in Nazi Germany. You must be a liar to not accept horrific racists things done by Great Britain and other "West" powers of those days. Slavery is another example of how there was practically no limit to the rascality.
Third, about GDP, it is laughable to know that you think Britain lost money while ruling India. I dont have time to educate you on this stuff. But you may look at drain theory of Dadabhai Naroji. If you think he was biased, you may also look couple of PhD thesis in Oxford (after Indian Independence) that have calculated similar figure. For horrific deeds of Britain, sample example would be famines they imposed by throwing food in sea. Another sample would be racist remarks of "Sir" Churchill. Thankfully he gave many of them.
Lastly, if any text book needs to be corrected it is the West, which never acknowledges enough, the contribution of Chinese culture (gun powder, printing etc), Islamic Golden Age (architecture, algebra etc). Indian culture (Mathematics, Astronomy, Geometry, Number Theory etc) as a result instead of seeing India as great ancient culture with solid scientific background, a common Westerner with high school sees it as land of snake-charmers. Of course, West has led scientific development in past 2 centuries but that was built on knowledge from before, just naming old and known formulas (Google about Phythagoras Theorem, Keplers Law, PI, History of "Robot" in China etc ) with Western names doesnt mean you invented them all while others were smoking pots.
Just a short example to add (I live in Europe so here=EU): If you ask an educated Indian about renaissance, he would tell you a whole lot of thing and about "Western Scientific Thoughts" etc. If you tell an educated person here, about Indus Valley Civilization which is more than 4000 years old and had underground drainage, perpendicular streets (Christened "Manhattan Distance"), with fire-lamps lit at night, they are amazed. Somehow impression of "snake-charmers" and bigger-than-thou is destroyed.
I think now you are trying to rewrite history and honestly that is way off the topic at hand. If you look at western history - be in Europe or Americas - it is doctored. All the atrocities commited there have been glossed over and the advent of Europeans is shown in the light of "White Man's Burden". While the concept of White Man's burden is laudable - the reality couldn't be any more different. But ... we digress... so I will rest this here.
Nobody from my generation - I am 66 - supported the name change and, even now, refer to this great city as 'Bombay'.
As an aside on Bombay's colonial past, there is a lovely club on Bhulabhai Desai Road (Warden Road), adjacent to Breach Candy Hospital. This club is the Breach Candy Swimming Baths and is located butting the sea with unlimited fabulous views stretching as far as the horizon. The club has the largest swimming pool in the city. Until well into the third decade after Independence, the club had a whites (Europeans)only policy! Repeated requests by city officials, state officials and others to change this policy so that Indians could also become members met with a "No" by the club's all-white management. Finally, in sheer frustration the City Council voted to cut off the club's water supply. The club caved in. Most Bombayites will probably not remember this story.
FYI --- the name change was anyway notional. Most of Maharashtra always referred to it as Mumbai. You are very welcome to call it whatever you want to. Only shows that you live here but don't assimilate.
Assimilate? Hmmmmmm. As far as I remember, in my school days when one spoke in Marathi one said "Mumbai" and when one spoke in English or Hindi, one said "Bombay". (Amchi Mumbai, My Bombay, Mera Bombay.) Of course, this is what Bombayites - or Mumbaikers - said. Don't see the relevance of the rest of Maharashtra here.
Remember that old song "Bombay mere Jaan"? It never was "Mumbai mere Jaan". Was it sung by Raj Kapoor? Being a doddering 66-year-old my memory is not what it used to be.
By the way, as kids growing up in the 50s and 60s most of us Bombayites/Mumbaikers spoke at least four languages: English, if we went to an English-medium school; our mother tongue which could have been any of India's numerous languages; Marathi, since it was the local and state language; and Gujerati since that was the language of many of the small traders and shopkeepers. This is largely true evn today.
So not to argue but isn't it amusing that just two posts back you dared to say nobody welcomed it and now you say "when one spoke in marathi one said 'Mumbai' ".
I think all of us believe in multilingual / multiculture / multi everything - simply because of our creed - "Unity in diversity". So we all should be proud of the example of people knowing 3-4 languages. Trust me - I too am proud of that fact.
Aare yaar, Shri Shiledar (hey, that rhymes! wow!)
Why would any sane person welcome what is surely an unnecessary and extremely expensive change? On maps in India and around the world it was Bombay. (Aare, do you think Mullywood is preferable to Bollywoood? Bet neither you nor anyone you know has stopped saying Bollywood.) The airport said Bombay. the train stop was Bombay. all corporate stationery and business cards said Bombay, the stock exchange was Bombay. This list could go on and on and on and on. At the very least look at the totally unnecessary economic costs involved. (When the American oil giant Esso, whose tentacles are world-wide, changed its name to Exxon, it cost the company more than a billion - yes, a billion - dollars.) People speaking in Marathi seemed quite content to say Mumbai AND not resent it and resort to fisticuffs when someone said Bombay.
No one using her/his intellect, Marathi speaker or non-Marathi speaker, native Maharashtrian or not, wanted the change. The change was made by a supine state as a sop to one party's demands, usually made in an intimidating and threatening manner. Whatever this name cost the government, would, you think, have the money been better spent in building more schools, hospitals, etc?
I think you are pretty much lying when you say nobody wanted the name change. Entire Marathi community is for it. And the resident non-marathi community in its usual style thumb their noses at Mumbai. That is not a coincidence. We see it as a sign of colonial past and something that must be removed. All countries - after independence have truly reverted to their roots. Except of course India where we forgot that our name is Bharat. And we proudly kept the foreign names as if they were souvenirs.
Is it any surprise that Maharashtrians who never succumbed to Mughals or the English, don't like foreign names? One can't measure the value of freedom and pride in dollars.
Aare yaar, Shri Shiledar, you are saying that the resident non-Marathi community was insignificant in number thereby implying that a teensy-weensy number of people imposed their wishes on the vast majority. Come on, sheer common sense will tell you this is not true and that the city has always had an enormous populace for whom Marathi was not their mother tongue - many spoke it, but it was not their mother tongue.
I grew up in the Bombay of the 50s and 60s and my building, for example, had Parsis, Gujeratis, Sindhis, Catholics, Malayalees, Sikhs, Muslims, Maharashtrians (people for whom Marathi was the mothr tongue), Anglos and, in the usual style of most Bombayites in THOSE days, no one asked about religion or looked down on any of the others for any reason. (Of course, since I was a child and teenager you could say to me: well, you were too young to notice anything.) And in the school I attended it would be considered infra dig to inquire about another student's religion.
I am not idealising the past; I am just saying that a certain civility in life and disoourse has been slowly but surely eroded using some not-very-salubrious methods - to put it mildly - by some not-very-pleasant - again, putting it very mildly - people.
If you are equating the use of 'Mumbai' with the resultant loss of bondage and the resulting freedom, you really need to re-think your position. (A note of levity, if I may. Bondage nowadays usually refers to s&m bars and if we had some of those in our fair city, there might be more smiles all around. Giggle, giggle, giggle.)
PS How long are you going to carry on extolling past glories, some of which seem to exist only in your mind? A suggestion: do read Romila Thapar's 2 (or is it 3?) volume of history of India.
Ms Thapar, by the way, remains India's pre-eminent historian, in spite of efforts by the Hindu right-wing to threaten her with dire consequences.
PPS I can't prove otherwise, but I never lie. In fact, I hate lies, cant and humbug. I wish you would take my word for this.
I think you are diverting the discussion - key thing is the entire Marathi population always called it Mumbai and will always do so. As I said - the so called "Non - native" population should get used it and respect it. That alone is sufficient reason for a name change. Secondly I am not trying to evoke past glory or something. I am simply saying Mumbai is the original word and right name. Bombay is either an "Apabhransh" i.e. copy of original or is a foreign given name. In either case it need not exist and that's what majority always wanted.
As per Thapar - I haven't read Thapar. But to be honest have no wish to - simply based on her JNU credentials. India unfortunately was led by half muslim half communist nehru who thought shivaji maharaj was a goonda and thug. That is JNU standard. So thank you but no thank you.
The death of Bal Thackery makes India free of extremism and violence against the minorities. And will run India on the way of more liberal and progressive that it was a death and end of terrible era in the history of India that was leading to more division of this great land.
It seems Mr. Thackeray's family physician for several decades has been a Muslim medical expert, Dr. Parakar, perhaps, a Mahratti Muslim. The media here showed the good doctor often seated close to Mr. Thackeray during public meetings.
He had many friends amongst Muslims, especially, Mahratti Muslims. True he criticised Islam, as many around the world do now, for its dogmas, especially, towards 'infidels'. He knew, like most Hindus, that Islam proslytises while Hinduism does not.
Such conversion-orientation has brought about cultural and other political conflicts in the Indian sub-continent. That is a historical fact.
Saying that, he did not become 'anti-Muslim'.
Mumbai's Muslim community is thriving. It is a shame that occasionally they should be linked to terrorists and bombers. But everyone, including Shiv Sena, wishes Muslims to do well in Mumbai and elsewhere in India.
Riots in India are not confined to 'majority-minority'. Intra-hindu or intra-muslim riots are known also.
So a Muslim can be trusted right. So a Muslim may not be a 'Baaimaan, either to be sent to Qabrisstaan or Paakistan' Let the Shiv Senaa/BJP?Bajrang Dal/VHP/RSS learn from this...
What a twisted mind you have! You have a problem even when Thackrey doesn't fit your muslim-hating-stereotype.
Maharashtra is the most progressive and advanced state in India - economically as well as socially. That is why immigrants from all over India have been able to come here and make progress right here in Maharashtra while their native states languish in poverty and backwardness.
There is too much jealousy and hatred against Maharashtra from other parts of India. Balasaheb Thackrey defended native people's rights. He defended Hindus from aggresive muslims. And yet some of the narrow minded northern and southern people criticize him out of sheer hatred and ignorance. May these people leave Maharashtra and make even more progress. We don't need these ungrateful SOBs.
OMG ! Aggressive Muslims, you say. Lay off the bhang and chars.
where were you during mumbai riots of 90 and 92 and bombings in 2006? And during bhivandi riots? Do you even think before you type?
> There is too much jealousy and hatred against Maharashtra from other parts of India.
I have extensively traveled to different parts of India but I have never sensed any hatred or jealousy against Maharashtra. What are you smoking?
You don't have to travel anywhere. You find it right here in Maharashtra. The fact that Thackrey created a new party that appealed to some people who then voted for him - means there is some merit there - regardless of what your personal experience or opinion is.
I am not talking about the merits or demerits of what Bal Thackrey did, or how many votes his party got.
I am only replying to your stated belief that other Indians are jealous of and hate Maharashtra. This belief is false.
May be he got those votes by instilling such beliefs?
What makes you think it is my belief rather than experience? I is the latter. You perhaps don't have enough experiences or are already biased.
I am quite confident that at least 99% of rest of India neither hates Maharashtra nor is jealous of it. We can't say anything for sure about remaining 1%.
We have to agree to disagree.
A little known Cartoonist but well known Bombay Mafia King is gone for ever. Now Mumbai will have one less goon guru (ii) one less iron fist whimsical head who was able to paralyze the life of Mumbai at his will (iii) The deadly enemy of poor Biharis, Bengalis, Tamils and MUSLIMS was roaring like a tiger to make their lives miserable injecting venom of hooliganism in the minds of millions of his blind followers. Bal Thackeray had disrupted the industrial, social and cultural life of Mumbai more often than any other leader in her history. Hope, after his departure, the roaring cruel tiger will remain silent forever.
Tiger naahh,, A Parochial Devil definitely..
Keep barking in the comfort of internet.
Like everywhere else, here too, many people are just overwhelmed by their disgust for Bal Thackrey, giving their own holy opinions about how Thackrey was no more than a thug, no less evil than Hitler and a threat to Indo-Pak relations and peaceful minority (read Muslims) integration. Now some hard facts: animosity with Pakistan and organizations like SIMI were there before Bal Thackrey and will be there after him too (yea with different bank accounts). Blaming him for them, would be like blaming Al Qaida attacks on bluntness of speeches of Bush Jr. Over 2 million people personally turned up in Thackrey's funeral, perhaps because he was thug, a great thug by huge margin then! Almost every part of Mumbai was shut down, by threat perhaps, again huge threat for Dawood couldnt do even 10% of this. Some say he made Marathi Manoos small, being a Delhite I could say that Marathi Manoos are at least more behaved and less discriminatory towards NE than many people in Delhi. Also they are more pro-Hindi, pro-India than any other non-Hindi states (including J&K). Last but not the least, I dont agree with many views of Bal Thackrey, but in the end, he indeed was a "mass leader", and at least my conscience doesnt allow me to speak ill of him at the moment of his death.
Didn't the Nazis also have a 'mass' leader?
All Nazi leaders might have been "mass leader", but not all mass leaders were Nazis. Certainly no Nazi died with 2 million people turning up in his funeral procession. Anyway, what I meant was simply that if somebody calls Thackrey as a "thug", he is just hurting those people who felt so connected with him. Imagine calling Nehru as "stupid Anglophile", in wake of his policy blunders, in India of 50s. I am sure many people would be hurt then, and likewise many people would be hurt now. To close, if you cant speak good of a man who just died, it is better to keep the mum.
You are certainly right that people may feel hurt if Jawaharlal Nehru is called a "stupid Anglophile" and if Bal Thackeray is called a "thug". There is a crucial difference here: no one will bash your head in in the case of the former.
There is one more crucial difference - Maharashtrians never would doubt the former's love for his country. Whereas for the latter - people are callous enough to not grant that to him - more so - they would call him a thug on the day of his death sheer out of jealousy for Maharashtra.
Kanishkaji (since I am 27 so this respect :)), I am not sure if the difference ends there. I can cite one more significant difference: How many national loans, national roads, national schools, national libraries, national ... (ad nauseum) are named after Nehru? How many pages are devoted to Nehru in history books? How is that only pro-Nehru historians survived in India (great RC Majumdar's book was "made" out of publication for it didnt pay homeage to Nehru)? How is that Jinnah is so much of a ridicule and oblivion in India, while policy blunders of Nehru are not known to high-schoolers? Given those observations (I have met with people and travelled around 20 nations by now), Nehruism is no less of a dicatatorship than you would find anywhere across the world, and Nehruvism (both him and people who used him after his death) has been far greater threat to our country than Bala Saheb Thacrey. I am telling you this despite me being a Brahmin born (not brought up) in the same city Nehru was born in.
Hi,U r trying to cover a 'Big Evil' by comparing with another 'Big Evil' this do not work. Whatever id against 'Equity,Ethics, Morality, Honour and Human Rights' is and will always be 'universally' wrong..
With Regards
I doubt your diatribe is driven by any of those virtues that you proclaim. You are driven entirely by hatred towards Maharashtra and Marathi people.
God Bless Him. He was a genuine intellectual and critic in a time of scoundrels. He kept the heart of the city always running despite political and social storms. Oversight of the largest and oldest Port Cities is no easy task in an India running from its cultural roots. The Film Industry was one of the biggest problems to the cities security.
You are absolutely right. The film industry in Mumbai is half controlled by terrorist masters sitting in Dubai and Pakistan. Without Thackrey it would be fully controlled by terrorist.
A divisive, backward figure who lauded Hitler and fanned the flames of communal tension for his own ends.
Bombay deserves better, a huge city dominated by a small man.
Glad to see many Indians recognise him for the negative force he was, spent some months in Bombay after the 1992 riots and well remember the awful stories of murder in the streets and the impact this had on one of the Worlds great metropolises.
Hindu nationalism is no better than any other, and India is both bigger and better than simple Hindutva.
I dont know why you are propagating lies. Dawood was behind the bomb attacks in Mumbai in decade of 90 and if Dawood is "Damaad" (son-in-law) of Pakistan and still an underworld don with influence in Mumbai, a nationalist like Thackrey has got full right to "hate" this angle of Pakistan. You might not be blunt, but he was, on how Pakistan govt, ISI and Army (unfortunately common man had little say in this but in the end must be held responsible) plotted to bleed India, with every opportunity they got. His bluntness is rewarded by 2 million people attending his funeral, your political correctness would make 200 people an impossibility. That is the harsh truth. You must give context before blaming Hindutva. I can bet that people like you would have freely used terms like Saffron terror but would have never gone to say "Green Terror" for Islamists or "White terror" for racists KKK. It is the context which differentiates all three of them you see.
Hi, i suppose u r a North Indian from Delhi, so how would you have felt if your safety and security would be at the mercy of a 'brainless parochial'organisation just because your only fault and crime is;let me give the list-your ethnic-cultural-lingual-familial and regional roots. u speak Punjaabi/Hindi and not Marathi..
i am sure you have a sense of esteem-dignity-respect and honour and you will never feel good about it..
With Regards
So how many north or south indians were killed or looted in Mumbai under Thackrey?
So what kind of lies are you spreading?
Bal Thackeray ...just populist for the maharashrtrians. He was against everybody and anybody who was not a maharashrtrians.
His city is still run by thugs . But at least it was a peaceful city overall. And he did amount to something. Eventually this city will change, and unless they are less corrupt and more transparent, the infrastructure will move somewhere else where they're more welcome.
Probably gujarat
"But at least it was a peaceful city overall."
Yes! And Mussolini made the trains run on time!
"But at least it was a peaceful city overall."
Yes! And Mussolini made the trains run on time!
I lived in India in 98-99 and remember the man and his followers as racist and fascist thugs.
Good riddance.
India has enough problems without their sort.
Indira Ganhi also managed to run trains on time during emergency.
Good riddance you didn't live in India after 98-99. India apparently is doing very well and Mumbai is doing even better with all the fascist and racist thugs there.
None so blind ....
You should read Tarun Tejpal.
But, then, that would mean opening your eyes.
Life in India is not a Sharuk Khan movie.
Life in India is not a movie. But it is certainly improving. And the society is integrating for better. Your concept of "Open Eyes" shouldn't mean calling India Indians or Marathi folks racist and thugs.
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To clean dirt off suede, remove the crust from a piece of bread and allow it to become stale. Gently rub the stain with the edge of the stale bread, and it will disappear.
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To see which clothes you never wear, turn all your hangers in one direction, and as you take out clothes to wear, hang them back up with the hanger facing the opposite direction. After one year, get rid of the clothes that are still hanging in the original direction.
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Pemphigus is a rare group of autoimmune diseases that causes blisters on the skin and mucous membranes--mouth, nose, throat, eyes, and genitals--throughout the body. Pemphigus vulgaris is the most common type of pemphigus.
Pemphigus vulgaris is not fully understood, but experts believe that it's triggered when a person who already has a genetic tendency to develop this condition comes into contact with an environmental "switch," such as a chemical or a drug. In some cases, pemphigus vulgaris will go away once the environmental trigger is removed.
Certain ethnic groups, including people of eastern European Jewish and Mediterranean descent, are more prone to this condition.
As an autoimmune condition, pemphigus causes the immune system to fight against the body's own cells in the same way that it fights off invading germs.
With pemphigus vulgaris, the immune system targets proteins that bind the cells of the skin. This causes a buildup of fluid between the skin cells, resulting in blisters. Experts believe that in addition to fighting healthy proteins, pemphigus vulgaris interferes with the cellular signaling that helps the skin stay healthy.
Pemphigus vulgaris typically begins in the mouth. Symptoms include:
Blisters on otherwise healthy skin
Blisters that are easy to burst
Affected skin that peels easily when rubbed
Pain at blister
Blisters heal, but may be painful and leave dark patches on the skin for months. Most people with pemphigus vulgaris can find relief with treatment. Without treatment, the condition can lead to severe pain, infection, and even death.
Call your doctor if you notice painful, soft blistering on your skin or mucous membranes. Treatment will prevent the blisters from spreading and getting worse.
You may need to see a dermatologist to diagnose and treat this condition. Your doctor visit may include:
Taking your medical history
Physical exam
Review of your symptoms
Blood tests
Biopsy, or taking a tissue sample for testing
These are common treatments for pemphigus vulgaris:
Better oral health care. Because blistering may affect the health of your mouth, work with your dentist to be sure that you're taking the best care of your teeth and gums.
Steroid medications. Prednisone and steroid creams may be prescribed to treat the inflammation.
Immune suppressants. As an alternative to steroid treatments, immune-suppressing medicines may be helpful in managing this disease.
Plasmapheresis and/or intravenous immunoglobulin. People whose pemphigus vulgaris does not respond to other forms of treatment may need more intensive treatments, including the replacement of blood plasma and infusions with healthy immunoglobulin.
Lifestyle management. Some people find that stress and certain foods, such as garlic, make living with pemphigus vulgaris more difficult, even during treatment. Pay attention to what helps you feel better and what seems to make symptoms worse.
Follow-up. This condition may return after successful treatment. Go to all follow-up appointments.
It can take two to five years or even longer to treat this condition. Also, treatments for pemphigus vulgaris may have serious side effects. Talk with your doctor about potential side effects and how to manage them.


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Johto (Japanese: ジョウト地方 Jōto-chihō), meaning "castle palace" (Japanese: 城都 Jōto) and "lattice-shaped palace" (Japanese: 条都 Jōto), is a region connected to the western part of Kanto. It was introduced in Generation II, Gold and Silver, and Crystal later seen in their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver. The third, fourth, and fifth seasons of the anime are also set there. In the games, all its cities have plant-themed or colour-themed names. Johto is geographically similar to the Kansai, eastern Shikoku and western Tōkai regions of Japan. There are old-fashioned cities reminiscent of Nara and Kyoto and a modern commercial city reminiscent of Osaka. Some inhabitants speak the Kansai dialect in the Japanese releases of the games.
The mythology of the Johto region features Ho-Oh, the Rainbow Pokémon guardian of the skies, and Lugia, the Diving Pokémon guardian of the seas, who previously perched on the Bell and Brass Towers respectively in Ecruteak City. When the Brass Tower burned down in a storm, Lugia flew away, and three Pokémon died in the process. Ho-Oh revived these Pokémon, creating Raikou, Entei, and Suicune. Lugia's home, the Whirl Islands, were also created when the Pokémon dispelled a war over a singular island, splitting it into four islands and making them its home, producing powerful whirlpools to protect itself. Celebi, the Time Travel Pokémon, also calls Johto its home, residing in the Ilex Forest where it brings Pokémon and Trainers forward and back in time.
100 previously unknown Pokémon reside in Johto. In the Generation II games, the player's home town is New Bark Town, where they can choose either Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile as his/her first Pokémon.
The terrain of Johto is similar to that of Kanto, with a jagged mountain range in the north-east, descending to a boundless ocean in the south-west.
- New Bark Town
- Cherrygrove City
- Violet City
- Azalea Town
- Goldenrod City
- Ecruteak City
- Olivine City
- Cianwood City
- Mahogany Town
- Blackthorn City
Areas of Interest
- Ruins of Alph
- Slowpoke Well
- Union Cave
- Ilex Forest
- Radio Tower
- National Park
- Tin Tower\Bell Tower
- Burned Tower
- Sprout Tower
- Whirl Islands
- Safari Zone (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
- Dark Cave
- Mt. Mortar
- Lake of Rage
- Dragon's Den
- Tohjo Falls
- Indigo Plateau
- Battle Frontier (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
- Mt. Silver
- Sinjoh Ruins (HeartGold and SoulSilver only [accessible only after receiving Wi-Fi Event Arceus])
Johto's routes start where Kanto left off: routes in Johto are numbered 29-48, where Kanto's are 1-28.
29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 (HeartGold and SoulSilver only) 48 (HeartGold and SoulSilver only)
The Pokémon League
The Johto League is the greatest aspiration of all Trainers. Because they are neighboring regions, Johto and Kanto share the same Elite Four, located at Indigo Plateau. One Badge from each Johto Gym is required to enter.
Gym Leaders
Name | Settlement | Type | Signature Pokémon | Badge |
Falkner | Violet City | Flying | () | Zephyr Badge |
Bugsy | Azalea Town | Bug | () | Hive Badge |
Whitney | Goldenrod City | Normal | Plain Badge | |
Morty | Ecruteak City | Ghost | Fog Badge | |
Chuck | Cianwood City | Fighting | Storm Badge | |
Jasmine | Olivine City | Steel | Mineral Badge | |
Pryce | Mahogany Town | Ice | () | Glacier Badge |
Clair | Blackthorn City | Dragon | () | Rising Badge |
Elite Four (Gen II & IV)
- For Generation I and III see Kanto.
Name | Type | Signature Pokémon |
Will | Psychic | |
Koga | Poison | |
Bruno | Fighting | |
Karen | Dark | // |
Champion (Gen II & IV)
- For Generation I and III see Kanto.
Name | Type | Signature Pokémon |
Lance | Dragon |
Real-life Connection
Following the tradition, the Johto region is based on a real-world region of Japan, the Kansai region, just as Kanto is based on the real Kanto region in Japan.
- Johto was the first region to introduce areas to plant berries.
- Johto is the only region to display a new female main character when the game returned for a newer system release.
- However, in the Black and White sequels there was a new female main character to play as.
- Johto lacks many elements that other regions have. Most of these are due to Johto sharing them with Kanto. Therefore, it is the only region without:
- An Electric- and a Water-type Gym. (However Kalos lacks a Water type gym, probably due to an Elite Four member using Water type Pokemon).
- Its own set of Fossil Pokémon,
- A Pokémon burial ground,
- A museum,
- Prior to Generation IV, a true Regional PokéDex, and
- An actual Victory Road.
- Johto shares its Pokémon League, Storage System developer, and villainous team with Kanto.
- All of the cities in Johto are named after plants.
- It's the only region when Ash Ketchum did not meet a new travelling companion.
- Johto also has the shortest Victory Road, even though it resides in the Kanto region.