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Viewpoint: Should Lifejackets be Mandatory on Sailboats?
Lifejacket Law Should be Mandatory!
Few issues in recreational boating are more emotionally charged than lifejacket legislation. Most sailors—and boaters in general—feel the government has no right to enact laws that interfere with their choice to wear or not wear a lifejacket. If a sailor chooses not to wear one and drowns, that's sad, they say, but the only victim of that decision is that sailor.
With National Safe Boating Week beginning on May 17, it's important to understand how myopic and callous that attitude is. The presumption that a person must drown to be a "victim" is naive. Clearly, those making this point have never witnessed the heartache and despair that results from such a senseless and preventable death.
With so much at stake, the question of why so few sailors choose to wear lifejackets (fewer than 10 percent of boaters overall wear them, according to U.S. Coast Guard-sponsored studies) needs to be reexamined. "They're bulky and uncomfortable," most say. "They're hot, and they mess up my tan," others protest. But with the advent of lightweight inflatable vests and belts, some as unobtrusive as a fanny pack, this is more of an excuse than an explanation.
Some sailors, especially those with limited experience, don't wear them because they don't fully understand the risks. They don't realize how quickly a 12-foot pram can swamp when the chop grows. They don't understand how unstable a small cat can become when the wind kicks up. They're not aware that a rogue wave can send them tumbling over the transom of their 22-footer or that the boom can knock them, unconscious, into the cold waters with just a wind shift.
Many solo sailors I've talked with justify their choice not to wear lifejackets by boasting about their swimming skills. Even though there's no one aboard to throw them a line, they're great swimmers, they profess, and could easily swim back to their boat or even to a distant shore if their life depended on it. Still others believe that if they're careful and respect the water, the likelihood of being separated from their boat is almost non-existent, so why bother?
Finally, all too many sailors have fragile egos. For many, lifejackets are for children and non-swimming adults, not strong swimmers and skilled sailors like themselves. To be seen wearing one on a beautiful summer afternoon is embarrassing. Donning one, except during extreme weather, is perceived as a sign of insecurity.
Unfortunately, history tells us, this irrational stigma won't disappear on its own. Lifejacket use by adult boaters won't increase significantly until there's an excuse to wear one: an excuse in the form of a law that mandates it and allows sailors to protect themselves without appearing insecure or inexperienced.
Seatbelt legislation and motorcycle helmet laws helped remove similar biases in the past. In fact, many bikers who wouldn't consider wearing a helmet before helmet laws were enacted now wouldn't ride without one.
While sailors comprise just 3 percent of the 3,970 boating deaths by drowning since 2005, according to the USCG, that number exceeds the percentage of registered boats in U.S. waters powered by sail. It's not, as many sailors believe, just a powerboater problem. It's every boater's problem.
According to Coast Guard statistics, the vast majority of drownings happen from boats less than 26 feet long, with solo boaters especially at risk. Isn't it time for the United States to make lifejacket use mandatory aboard boats of this size or when boating solo? It's unfortunate, but educational programs and catchy slogans simply haven't worked. According to Coast Guard estimates, lifejacket wear rates were lower in 2012 than in 2000.
Hundreds of lives could be saved every year if all boaters were making the right choice. But they're not. It's regrettable, but sometimes it takes a law.
No, It Shouldn't
For some time, contributing writer Alan Keene has been trying to talk us into printing his essay on lifejacket use—make them compulsory, he says! We finally gave in, and you can read Alan's rationale for compulsion above.
Personally, I couldn't disagree more—there are times when I'll wear a lifejacket and times when I won't, but I'd rather not have some bureaucrat making that decision for me, or some humorless goon in a uniform writing me up for not wearing a lifejacket on a 50-yard row to shore on a blazing hot summer afternoon—because you just know that's the sort of thing that's going to happen.
SAIL's position is that we strongly encourage sailors to wear lifejackets, but leave it up to the individual to decide when and where to do so. Most states already have some form of law concerning lifejacket use by children, and for those that don't there's a Coast Guard rule in effect. Some northern states have cold-weather laws requiring lifejackets to be worn during winter; these mostly apply to small boats, kayaks, SUPs and the like, which are tippy by nature and on which you'd have to be pretty stupid not to wear a lifejacket.
I'd be interested to know what others think, though, so if you have an opinion on the matter of compulsory lifejacket use, drop us line at email@example.com.
- Peter Nielsen, SAIL's Editor-in-Chief
What the Readers Think
The issue of enacting lifejacket laws has been a hot topic, and we've received great letters from readers. Here are a couple of our favorites.
As a 67-year-old life-long competitive sailor, I always wore a lifejacket on ocean racers in bigger wind. I have spent many more hours sailing in warm weather climates where a lifejacket would have turned a pleasant sail into a sweaty, uncomfortable "I'd-rather-be-doing-something-else" experience. It's time we took responsibility for ourselves rather than rely on laws to dictate common sense. I'd rather take responsibility for myself and enjoy the freedom that comes with doing so than surrender my freedoms to a government agency. If you're smart enough to earn the money to buy and skipper a boat, you should be smart enough to know when you and your crew should be wearing lifejackets. Before setting out, you should have the required seamanship skills, including knowing how to rescue someone who goes overboard, as it's all part of taking responsibility for yourself and developing your own critical thinking, rather than expecting to be told what to do.—Peter Wormwood, via Email
I could not help but notice the bare feet of L. Alan Keene in the photo accompanying the story, and I was appalled by his callous disregard for boating safety. Failure to wear rubber-soled shoes that can grip a boat's wet deck results in tens of thousands of foot injuries every year, from bruised in-steps to stubbed toes, and from gashed heels to chipped toenails. Failing to wear such shoes can also lead to slipping on deck, which causes injuries and can lead to falling overboard. Thousands of feet could be saved from injury every year, along with an indeterminate number of lives, if sailors wore appropriate footwear. But they're not. It's regrettable, but sometimes it takes a law.—M.J. Moye, via Email
I agree with Peter Nielsen's opinion—we don't need the government micromanaging our lives. I wear my lifejacket when I deem it necessary or when it's advisable. I don't need a bureaucrat with a badge in his 20's or 30's with little sailing experience writing me a citation because I decided, with over 60 years of sailing behind me, that it wasn't necessary to wear at the time. As for children, they can make the decision on their own once they're of age. Until then, they should wear a lifejacket on the water. As always, thanks for a great magazine.—Charles Smith, via Email
Kudos to Mr. Keene for voicing his opinion on this controversial topic. While in the U.S.C.G Auxiliary, I was party to rescuing more than one person who fell overboard and could not get back into his or her boat. Thankfully, most were wearing lifejackets. Needless to say, if we hadn't shown up and they weren't wearing lifejackets, we'd have read obits for these folks. When rescuing, the first thing we have people who are still in their boats do is sit down and don their lifejackets to keep them safe—no explanation needed. Two thumbs up for this article.—Linda Hoffecker, via Facebook
I don't think it necessarily takes a law, but it does take more than SAIL's position of "strongly encouraging sailors to wear lifejackets," while the editor only wears his "when necessary." If SAIL wants to strongly encourage lifejacket use it should have a policy that magazine photos—including the ads—should show people on boats wearing lifejackets when on deck. The ad agencies would scream at the end of swimsuit models on the bow of a boat sailing in tropical blue water with white beaches and palm trees in the background, but if we don't do more to actively encourage lifejacket use, we will have a law. I don't want a law either, but we do need good role models. What better role model than a respected sailing magazine and its editor?—Tom White, Grove, Oklahoma
SAIL's position is right on. I read Mr. Keene' s essay twice and still struggle see how more regulation helps develop common sense and personal responsibility. One can argue the benefits of wearing a lifejacket, helmet or seat belt all they want, but we cannot allow the government to mandate such laws for adults—period! Going by this logic, the government should make it a law to not to consume fatty foods.—Ken Carlini, Nashua, NH
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Life Jackets should be a discretionary issue
Boating safety needs to begin to be cultivated before anyone climbs aboard any type of floating device! Novice boaters need to gain an awarness of all the possible dangers of boating by way of a trained, experienced instructor. (this may be the person that is renting out a water craft or the pilot advising riders on the boat. ANyone who is given or takes charge or operating, using, navigating a water craft needs some acceptable level of training- this is where Laws need to be- so at anyone involved in work or play on a boat has an effective awareness of dangerous issues and is provided sensible means of conducting themselves with prudent judgement. Of course there will be plenty of individuals that will fall between the cracks of such a proposition and and mandatory helmets and life jackets must be worn if they don't know the secret handshake and passwords....
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The Nanny State at Work
There is risk to every human activity. As an adult in a free society one should have the right to choose one's acceptable level of risk.
The societal 'burden', if you will, is not significantly greater whether you fall in the water with a life jacket on or not, Nicholas. Somebody still has to look for you. Perhaps we should also mandate personal rescue beacons. And tethers. And boat shoes.
If we're talking about minimizing risk, we should also consider outlawing hang-gliding, mountain climbing, and anything else that is inherently risky....and certainly far more risky than sailing without a life-jacket on a calm and sunny day. Just how much does it cost to pull someone off the side of Denali in the winter, after all?
Do we really want this kind of intrusion into our personal lives? I don't.
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A slippery Slope regarding the Fourth Amendment Constitutional
About 14 years ago I wrote an editorial piece in another sailing magazine on exactly the same debate. It is no surprise that the arguments that were raised 14 years ago are identical to those being stated in this thread. These are issues such as personal choice, competency, judgment, freedom, safety, government intrusion, restriction of movement, the protection of children and so on and so forth. There is no question that these are critical issues which in the end may or may not reduce the mortality rate in an activity which has a statistically low death rate. But the bigger issue which gets lost in this discussion is the clear concern for the fourth amendment article of the constitution which protects individuals from unlawful search and seizure by government officials. By now we have learned that the seatbelt law which was ushered and touted as a way of saving lives came with unintended consequences, including the abuse of the regulation to conduct secondary searches of vehicles amongst other things. However, boats are like homes, they a sacred areas where the public has a reasonable expectation of privacy as well as the right not to have their premises searched because someone did not wear a PFD. The unintended consequences are substantial and propose significant risk to freedom. Any loss of life is a tragedy, but I can assure you that this is a slippery slope which if not thought through carefully will simply add to the erosion of our precious Constitutional Rights. Many die in the name of preserving the democracy, because the life of the democracy is paramount and above all. There is a Benjamin Franklin quote which is frequently paraphrased but essentially means the same. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Compelling State Interest
For government to pass a law that restricts personal freedom, there must be a compelling state interest to do so. Saving a person from their own stupidity is insufficient.
Seatbelt laws can be justified by the savings to the state from medical costs incurred by emergency room treatment of non- or under-insured individuals after automobile accidents. (Never mind the fact that driving a car on public roads is considered a privilege and not a right, giving the state the right to put conditions and restrictions on driving).
Falling overboard and drowning does not necessarily cost the state. Yes, there are emotional costs to the family of the dead sailor, but preventing sadness is also insufficient cause to compel me to wear a lifejacket.
I usually wear a lifejacket when I'm soloing, and my children always wear one. But the only clear definition of "safety" is "acceptibility of risk," which is different for each individual. Nothing can eliminate risk, only mitigate it.
Mr. Keene strikes me as another grumpy Yankee who thinks he just knows better than everyone else. He's a prime example of why I left Massachusetts for virginia.
I fear that the next step after a mandatory lifejacket law would be mandatory helmet wear to protect against accidental jibes, or banging your head on the companionway. Sailing carries inherent risks. You should accept them as you see fit, or stay on shore.
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Wearing Legislation or wearing lifejackets
Wait a minute. Aren't we talking about safety and saving lives. Yes, many of those objecting are old salts for which I am also (an old salt). But I not against wearing a flotation device. In the past, the MayWest was really uncomfortable. Nowadays, not really, so comeon folks, it isn't so uncomfortable. To comment on the strained enforcement responsibilities! They are not happy to pull bodies from waterways and the sea, with disasterous results to life and limb that follows.
To sacrifice a life for comfort, well, we know all about that, especially concerning the past objections of car safety, bus's, trains, and school bus's, pools, traffic, etc.,etc.. So have any of you objecting asked yourself if one of my siblings or relatives had drowned because of not wearing a life jacket(???) would that then be convincing enough to be in favor of them? I am sure their answer would be in favor of wearing them.
In addition, I feel like I am preaching to the choir cause most boaters are interested in safety, but some are nontheless distracted when operating boats, and some are not so careful. I guess to relax the need of wearing lifejackets, would be to allow those vessels that have a cabin where passengers are down below, to not wear them, and those that come on deck should wear them while underway. If no cabin exists than a boat is considered open and a floatation device would be necessary. There would be exceptions such as ferry's and cruise ships and others.
I don't think we could depend entirely on how responsibile we are or when the occasion arrises to decide to put on a life jacket.
Finally, the law at sea, Maritime Law, places the Captain/Operator responsible for the lives and safety of all passengers at all times. I am a Captain of my vessel and will require all to wear a lifejacket. No questions asked.
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Mandatory Lifejackets
As a former liveaboard cruiser, I find this utterly absurd. At some point, the people who live on the beach should stop making rules for the people who don't. Terrestrial life comes with infinite amounts of risk that we take for granted daily, and I don't think we can ever legislate it all out of our lives, nor should we try to. I'm all for education and licensing, but there has to be a point where people are encouraged to exercise their own judgment and abide by the consequences.
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The heck with the life
The heck with the life jackets! Sailing is a dangerous activity and it should be outlawed alltogether.
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less than 3% of the boats registered are sail powered?
I challenge your number of % ratio that more sailors die than powerboaters.
I have my own rules on my boat. I do require everyone to wear a PFD.
BUT that is my rule, and not the right of the government to tell me how to run my boat.
The government needs to fix its own house before it wants to tell me how to run mine.
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Saving us from make bad decisions
"I am from the government and I am here to help!"
I have been boating for 55years have never had a life jacket on,if it was made mandatory I would quit boating!I live on my boat should I sleep with it on too?
Please find some worthy cause that doesn't involve inflicting you personel view on the rest of us.
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I agree that a law would
I agree that a law would probably cause more (enforcement) problems that it would cure--and would be a terrible burden on the Coast Guard and other enforcers. What we need is for sailing magazines to regularly print stories that demonstrate the importance of wearing life jackets, those magazines to only use photos of moving boats with crew visible if they are wearing life jackets, and the Coast Guard and other government agencies to put out a stream of "boater service announcements" promoting safety in general and the wearing of life jackets in particular. Will everyone wear them? No, but probably a lot more than now do.
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Life jackets
It is all very well to say I know when I need or need not to wear a life jacket but it is an extremely selfish way of looking at things because there is a social cost to any such decision should things go wrong. Perhaps if self-inflating tube vests were more affordable there would be less resistance as they are far less bulky and bearable in the hot and sultry months which are also notorious for their unpredictable and violent storms. Skippers should remember they are wholly responsible under the law for the safety of all on board. Talking about what should be mandated and what should be voluntary, it would help a lot if skippers had to be coast-guard certified and all boats carry full all risk insurance. I know the industry lobby fights skipper certification but they are also being irresponsible.
Remember when taking about rights for this and that, that with rights come responsibilities.
I have been sailing for over forty years in the Solent, the Med, Long Island Sound, Lake Champlain and presently in Banderas Bay on the Mexican Pacific Coast in my 1984 Wauquiez Pretorien "Paradis".
Thank you for your excellent publication.
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Goverment mandated lifejackets
Lifejackets for kids yes, a law mandating lifejackets for adults, STOP don't we have enough laws in this country? Some goverment idiots that have never been in a boat making rules on things they know nothing about. We are adults we make our own choices, keep the goverment out just look what they are doing to this great country now.
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Inflatable vests reliability questioned
I've never raced without wearing my inflatable vest. On the other hand, I'm not sure if it would automatically inflate as advertised. I'm not certain how often the cartridges should be replaced. I don't mind wearing a lightweight automatic inflating vest, but I wonder if it will work when I need it? That issue seems even more important than whether I should wear it or not! I'm convinced that the manufacturer has an obligation to CLEARLY print the user service obligations on the vest. I currently wear a West Marine vest that does have a analog gauge display...hope it's accurate because a couple times I've nearly gone overboard. Would I ever wear a regular life vest that limits my movement while sailing....hell NO...!!!!! Way too dangerous. I wonder if the laws will get so extreme to the point that the boom will be required to have a car-like air bag that automatically inflates during accidental gybes?? Let's be PRACTICAL..!
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Captain's call
On my boat, lifejackets are mandatory when entering and leaving the harbor/dock. The rest of time it's at the individual's discretion, unless I turn on the seatbelt sign (which looks a lot like me shouting 'put your bloody jacket on')
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Living in a warm weather area
Living in a warm weather area (summer, May through October, air and water temps +80F) and not doing "blue water" sailing and beliving in personal responsibility -- I say no mandatory lifejackets (I do require children on my boat to wear them even though they are not required by law).
I do wear one when conditions warrent and always have enough on board for whoever wants to wear one.
Actually, helments would make more sense for something mandatory -- the boom is *HARD*. And I be against that too.
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Praise for Mr. Keene
I have experience as a sailer and a sailor AND as a Naval Aviator. I have been struck by the differences between sailing and aviating. In aviation, safety is paramount and is drilled in from day 1. No jet pilot would think of not buckling in (it's hot, sweaty and uncomfortable--but if, in that 1 in a ten thousand time you need to eject, it won't work if you are not buckled in.) I am appaled by the number of people who refuse to wear a life jacket--or worse, who say I'll wear it when the conditions demand. I wonder what those who drowned thought--oh, sxxx, I meant to put it on!!
I feel that all these people who claim to be experts and leaders in the field should be taking a much more assertive posture towards wearing life jackets. And you are right--we don't need laws. We need a change in attitude and a change in providing a positive example. Sure--wearing one near the dock seems foolish--but I thought the idea behind sailing was to get away from the dock and out where mother nature has her way--which means that without warning, it can be nasty, windy and dangerous.
Don't pass laws--change our courses and our examples. Don't leave the dock without everyone on the boat wearing a life preserver.
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Should Lifejackets Be Madatory
I, for one, wear a life jacket whenever I single hand or I am in a non keel boat.
I have participated in the rescue of 150 persons that had to abandon ship because of a fire. The rescue took place at night. All were saved except one, who drowned. I do not know the circumstances of the drowning. It was over an hour before all persons were pulled aboard the rescue crafts. But, ALL wore lifejackets. The reason they all wore lifejackets: it was mandatory per company rules for all passengers from the off shore platforms to wear lifejackets. All the maritime companies I have worked for make it mandatory for the boat crews to wear a lifejacket when ever they are on deck..without exception.
Some of the arguments are rather specious. It reminds me of the discussions when "Helmet Laws" were enacted.
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mandatory pfd use
The centuries old maritime tradition of coming to the aid of fellow sailors in a time of crisis is one that's honored by boaters around the world. A Mayday over the airwaves brings boaters from near and far. Four hundred US boaters every year, sadly, never get the help they need. Mandatory pfd use would go a long way in providing that help. In the spirit of that time honored tradition, a little inconvenience on our part seems a small price to pay for returning hundreds of loved ones safely home to their families.
L. Alan Keene
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Enough with the nanny laws already.
I have been in, on, under, and about the water all my nearly half century of life. I have helmed "vessels" from small ice flows in the river where I grew up, to the USS Saratoga (CV-60). Our current boat is a lovely little C&C30 we sail about Penobscot Bay, Maine. I am an avid recreational diver and spent several years as a commercial diver on the coast of Maine. My point being, I am not exactly ignorant of the risks involved when on the water. PFDs, like any other piece of safety equipment, certainly have their place aboard. I often wear mine when circumstances dictate. These include outside the cockpit when sailing solo (or as the only sailor aboard), sailing at night or in foul weather, or performing some admittedly questionable task. That being said, the draw to sailing is, for me, the act of being self reliant and accepting personal responsibility for myself and my vessel. One or the true joys of being at sea is the escape from terra firma and civilizations need to demand compliance in every aspect of society. In the end these nanny laws not only fail to make our lives safer, they promote the belief that we are "not" responsible for our choices and actions. What is really needed is a return to sense, to accepting responsibility for ones actions. The world isn't a safe place. I, for one, thank God for that gift.
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Hear hear, M.J. Moye. Well
Hear hear, M.J. Moye. Well Said! In the same vein, head injuries, leading to traumatic brain injuries, are the leading cause of accidental death and injury in the United States. We should all be mandated to wear helmets at all times - aboard, at work, at home, while driving - and we can surely reduce the 2.5 million annual cases to zero.
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Hear, hear. Better wear a
Hear, hear. Better wear a lifejacket in the bath tub and shower. You may also slip and fall into deep puddle in the street. Your example is not noteworthy. Helmets and lifejackets are for specific activies and not to satisfy a gambler's book.
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Today, Tuesday, July 13 Lassen and Plumas counties lost a political advocate with the death of California State Senator Dave Cox, District 1.
Surrounded by family and friends, Cox died after a 13-year battle with prostate cancer.
The family issued the following statement regarding Cox:
"Our beloved husband, father and grandfather passed away peacefully at home on Tuesday.
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gt;Plumas County Board of Supervisors Chairwoman Sherrie Thrall responded to news of Cox's passing by saying he "was such a strong person supporting the rural counties" and this is "a real big loss."
Cox is survived by his wife of 44 years, Maggie; daughters Cathleen, Margo, and Sarah; six grandchildren; and his beloved dog, Rudy.
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What do action sports athletes Maya Gabeira, Louie Vito, Stephanie Gilmore, Kelly Slater and Gretchen Bleiler have in common? They've all posed naked for ESPN The Mag's Bodies We Want issue. This week, motocross racer Tarah Gieger and snowboarder Elena Hight join their ranks for the 2013 issue.


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Kent General also offers a Ronald McDonald Room for families with infants in the NICU. The Ronald Room is sponsored by the Ronald McDonald House of Delaware and Bayhealth. This area has a kitchenette, play area and sitting area that converts to provide short-term sleep accommodations while the infant is critical or for time of transitioning to the home.
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Money Quotes, Sayings about wealth
I just wanna be rich enough to have Morgan Freeman read me bedtime stories.
First you yearn to earn. Then you learn that others will burn what you earn. Stop! Turn and spend before your end.
Things money can't buy:
1. Manners
2. Morals
3. Respect
4. Character
5. Common sense
6. Trust
7. Patience
8. Class
9. Integrity
10. Love
Making money can give you a sense of achievement. But only making a difference will give you a sense of fulfillment.
Money loves hardworking, responsible and enterprising people. Money dislikes lazy, irresponsible and passive people.
– Dr T.P.Chia
Don't spend money before you earn it. Don't spend money on things you don't need.
– Dr T.P.Chia
Most people are losing life making money. Soon they are left with lot of money but no life.
Money makes people smile. Money makes people laugh. Money makes people cry.
– Dr T.P.Chia
The story of money is very funny. Others burn what we earn. Why not give as we live, so the world will cry when we die.
It's great to earn, but don't leave it behind for someone else to burn.
Money & success don't change people; they merely amplify what is already there.
– Will Smith
Too many people spend money they earned to buy things they don't want, to impress people that they don't like.
First, I had time, but no money; then I had money, but no time. Finally, I had time and money, but no health to make use of my wealth.
Trying to be happy by accumulating possessions is like trying to satisfy hunger by taping sandwiches all over your body.
– George Carlin
A good reputation is more valuable than money.
– Publilius Syrus
It is strange, people chase and hoard money, and even cheat the world to become rich only to finally leave it all behind.
A millionaire becomes richer not when he earns his next million but when he spends it on noble cause.
In the 21st century, the world is the body and the money is the blood.
Money doesn't bring happiness, but shopping does.
If you think money is everything, or nothing, either ways you are damn right. It's what you do, with or without money that matters.
You spend your time to make a dime. You lose your health to make your wealth, but at the end it is funny because you leave back all your money.
I love finding money in my clothes. It's like a gift to me from me.


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'In awe of' Halladay, Slowey vies for split in Philly
Fan of star right-hander opposes Doc in Marlins-Phillies series finale
The awe still exists. The jaw still drops.
Even for a 29-year-old who has spent part of six seasons in the Major Leagues, standing across the field from Roy Halladay can produce butterflies.
Kevin Slowey grew up watching Halladay. And while Slowey is having the best season of his career through six starts, holding batters to a .232 average while posting a 2.15 ERA, Sunday's matchup against the eight-time All-Star should put him on his heels.
"For me, he's up there with guys like Greg Maddux and John Smoltz, some of the greatest pitchers of my generation as a fan and player now," Slowey said. "I was a fan of Roy Halladay long before I played Major League Baseball or Minor League Baseball. He's the kind of guy you watch and you try to learn from, and you stay in awe of."
Even while the past two years have been a struggle for Halladay -- at least when compared to the way he breezed through hitters in previous seasons -- there's a certain professionalism that younger pitchers admire.
"As a pitcher, watching him throw, watching the way he goes about his business -- you never have any idea whether he just gave up a home run or he just struck out the side," Slowey said. "Every pitch is thrown with the same conviction and the same determination. Those are the things you can control as a pitcher. To see a guy do it, day in, day out for years and years, it's pretty special."
After a pair of rough starts to open the season, Halladay, who was hindered by back and shoulder problems a year ago, fired three straight dominating performances, including an eight-inning gem against the Marlins, before getting knocked around by the Indians his last time out.
It's no secret that the Marlins have struggled to score runs this season. If Halladay works his sinker as well as he has at times this season, he could feast on a feeble lineup that's hurting without the injured Giancarlo Stanton.
"I think we're getting in some good counts," manager Mike Redmond said. "It's just not happening. We're not getting the hits. We're getting in good counts, and we're not able to drive those guys in, for whatever reason. We're having a tough time scoring runs. We had opportunities again, bases loaded. We're just not able to get that big hit."
Marlins: Ozuna could surprise
Marcell Ozuna was supposed to pile on experience at the Double-A level this season. But with Stanton's injury and the lineup in a funk, Miami signaled for the 22-year-old right fielder to start his Major League career early.
Ozuna crushed his first home run on Saturday, leading the Marlins to a 2-0 win over the Phillies. He's collected at least one hit in each of his five Major League games and is hitting .389.
With a bat full of power -- Ozuna hit five homers in 10 games with Double-A Jacksonville before getting the call -- he batted fifth in the lineup on Saturday.
"Ideally, I'd like to keep him down a little bit lower," Redmond said. "But at this point, we're going to move up guys who are hitting. We've got to have guys who are getting hits at the top of the order.
"I really liked him in the Minor Leagues. I liked his attitude. I liked the way he played. He was having fun. That's the way you've got to play in the big leagues: Go out there like you've got nothing to lose. He's got nothing to lose."
Phillies: Brown looking better at the plate
There was little for the Phillies to be proud of offensively after Saturday night's one-hit effort, but Domonic Brown has shown signs that he's ready to break out of a slump and swing the lumber the way he was in Spring Training.
Over his last 10 games, the 25-year-old has raised his average from .206 to .260 while sending three balls out of the park.
Manager Charlie Manuel doesn't think 30 home runs is out of Brown's range.
"I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility," Manuel said. "What do I tell you a home run is? It's a well-hit fly ball that comes down behind the fence. Best hit in baseball. Think nothing of it, come back, sit down and think about hitting another ball hard. Not a home run. And that one might go out. And then you'd have two. And if you think like that, you keep things in perspective and focus on what you're doing, that's how you hit them. When you start wanting to hit them and thinking about hitting them and trying to hit them, more than likely you won't succeed."
Worth noting
• Marlins second baseman Donovan Solano, batting .278, was scratched Saturday with tightness in his left side and could end up on the disabled list.
• Miami's Austin Kearns is on the bereavement list for family reasons. By league rule, he will miss between three and seven days.
• Michael Young got a rare breather Saturday, but he's expected to be back in the Phillies' lineup Sunday.


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I love this plain cup for its three different spouts and I thought that meant it was once my grandmother's, because in a family of right-handed people only she was left-handed and only I am left-handed and I know she would have loved her choice of spout and isn't it nice to think about these inter-generational connections when I'm baking for my family? But then my mother confused my reverie and told me that this cup was, in fact, my great-grandmother's. A woman named Agnes, whom I never met, probably used it to make treats for her son, my grandfather, my daughter's namesake.
Today there is me, and once there was Agnes, and tonight we celebrate the 5771 years of the world's history according to Jewish tradition, and in every one of those years there were always women striving to feed their families.
In Judaism it's okay to doubt God as long as you keep questioning and I always think what a relief, because how can anyone know about anything as incomprehensible as God? But I can know about feeding my family through love and tired forearms, just as my grandmother did, and her mother-in-law Agnes, and 5771 years of humanity and hungry bellies. I don't know if I can articulate my religious faith but I can articulate my place in that line, in the line of women spanning back millenia until the time when history and religious tenets were being created all at the same time, twisted up together, just like my challah.
Shanah tovah u'metukah, friends. A sweet new year for all of us.


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Where to begin. I attended my first sub-regatta last year in Carmel. I was hooked on RC subs before. Now I am doubly hooked.
On the long drive home I started playing with the idea of putting a pitch control system into a model. so when I say down it will give me a nice smooth dive (even at low speeds).
I did some experiments and in the end submitted an article on the tests to SCR. Of course testing is nothing without application. So the Sierra began.
I got the plans from Deep Sea Designs. The plans are in 1/96 scale, but I have big fingers, and big plans for the inside of this hull so I took the drawings and had them scaled up. As it stands the model will be 67" long and have an inside diameter of 7 3/4". Plenty of space.
In this thread I shall follow the construction and outfitting of the hull. I shall start a separate thread that focuses on the actual pitch control system.


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When the frustrations of a stressful job get to be too much, you scream obscenities over the PA system, grab a beer from the lunch room refrigerator, deploy the proverbial escape chute, and scurry off to a better life.
Man, if that jackass mentions his precious 'action plan' one more time, I'm going jet blue on his ass!
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DOT Seeking Proposals to Jump-Start New Air Service
For the second consecutive year, the Small Community Air Service Development Program is alive despite efforts by the Bush administration to kill this grant program. And for the second consecutive year, the program will only award $10 million in grants instead of $20 million as it had in earlier years.
The Department of Transportation (DOT) is now soliciting community proposals for the grants that are designed to improve air service to those small air hubs or those airports without any commercial service. The application deadline is April 27. The grants are traditionally awarded in late summer. (See the list of last year's award winners.)
Now in its sixth year, the program has changed with the agency applying stricter criteria in making the grant awards.
First the basics: No more than 40 grants will be awarded; no more than four projects can be selected from the same state and no current grant winner can apply. (See the rules as well as other DOT information on the program.)
One of the founding goals of the program was to reduce high airfares. In at least two cases, grants were awarded to cities that underwrote new low-fare carriers in direct competition with legacy airlines. No more.
Both United and Delta have objected to these grants. "The DOT doesn't want to fight with the airlines," says Michael Boyd, of The Boyd Group. His consulting firm has assisted communities in applying for the grants and then implementing their air service development programs. In the last grant round, the firm's clients won about one-third of the grants.
In the past, Boyd helped Sarasota and Fresno win grants that attracted AirTran and Frontier. "United cried foul. That won't happen again."
The scope of the program has changed so that Boyd now predicts that less than 60 communities will apply.
Last year there were 75 grant applications filed from 37 states collectively seeking $32 million. Only four of the 75 applications were from communities that had never previously applied to the program. In the class of 2006, there were 18 applications that failed to meet the basic selection criteria -- 16 of these because they were currently participating in an earlier round of funding or have found another source of funds.
"We have warned our clients that what worked in the past won't work in the future," Boyd explains.
"So going forward you have to be very careful that you submit something that is definable, that is measurable, and in front of a court of law, well almost, you can defend it as improving air service. Whatever you do, don't ask to do something different."
While Congress has rescued the program in the last two budget rounds, Boyd says Congress would like to end the program. "Congress has given DOT a mandate: You will fund EAS. Today, DOT is under pressure to use the money basically for EAS."
Congress has cut the program by $10 million in the last two budgets to provide more funds for the Essential Air Service program.
No fan of EAS, Boyd calls it "a mess," with the government funding empty planes flying between EAS city-pairs.
The Small Community program has settled into a pattern. The grant money is used either for marketing or airline subsidies. A number of early grants were for surveys, but fewer in recent years. DOT has "come to the conclusion the studies are just a waste of money spent trying to illuminate the obvious," Boyd notes.
Any community preparing a grant application needs to come to table with cash to match the federal dollars. Unlike some federal programs that mandate specific local contribution ratios, this one does not. The rules don't provide any guidelines.
However, Boyd cautions that communities should not promise a local match via ticket banks or travel pledges. DOT has found that these promises to buy a specified number of tickets on a new carrier fail to fully materialize once an airline starts flying.
"Use of these words will send applications to the round file," Boyd notes.
Few "outside-of-the-box" or "Hail Mary" ideas have been funded. And, those that have been funded have not yielded new air service, Boyd says.
"Some of the things they have granted they know will never come to fruition."
DOT will entertain the submission of consortiums. But this year, the rules state that the proposal needs to be a single, workable plan, not a "collection of individual community requests." In another change, a community cannot submit a separate grant application if it is a member of a consortium.
"Most of the consortium applications have never gone anywhere," Boyd says. "The ones that have been granted for North Carolina, California and New Mexico are a waste of money. Studying whether you can support intrastate air service in California is very much like studying whether Newton was right or wrong. It doesn't work."
Last year several airports applied for grants to start their own ground handling operations as a way to lure new carriers. "It was the cause celeb. It didn't work. They didn't make any headway."
Only Springfield's Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport was awarded money to establish a ground handling unit.
In the past, several airports won grants to upgrade their air service from turboprop to regional jet. Most of these awards were made before Northwest and Delta Air Lines filed bankruptcy and then subsequently scaled back the routes for their regional carriers. The 50-seat regional jet continues to be out of favor in the industry.
"I think DOT will shy away from these because some of them have not worked out," Boyd adds.
The grant applications need to be flexible. The DOT cautions that secondary goals should be included in the application in case the primary goal cannot be reached.
Boyd stresses that the DOT will "not allow any wiggle room."
In the case of Durango, Colo., the community won a grant for air service to eastern cities. Delta was recruited to provide the service. The carrier provided service to its Salt Lake City hub with connections to the East. However, because Delta had to fly north to reach Salt Lake City, DOT disallowed the grant. "The community was defrauded on a technicality," he says.
Delta has maintained the service because it is profitable without a subsidy.


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Was woken by the phone at 11am, with a friendly voice telling me that my meeting with Bono had been pushed back from noon till 3pm. Result!
Rolled over for another hour but found myself awake so staggered up. One of the many extraordinary things about road life is that its possible to exist in a state of almost complete ignorance of your surroundings or domestic arrangements. Being the start of a new leg and having been so intensely busy at the venue, I hadnt a clue about what hotel I was in or any travel arrangements. Usually you look for a piece of paper shoved under your door which tells you what to do and todays piece of paper informed me that Im going to Mexico City tonight (fancy that!) but, more crucially, that the hotel was serving 'complimentary brunch till 1pm'. Result!
It was about 12.30 so I pulled on some clothes and went to find the food. This I did, along with a couple of other members of our party, in a large, smart, busy, dining room laid out with a huge spread of food. It was perfect, so we piled our plates high and made the most of it. Having gorged ourselves, another member of our party arrived and looked puzzled. 'Arent you coming for breakfast in the bar with everyone else?'. Yes folks, we had just sat down and helped ourselves to a complete strangers wedding reception.
Later, down at the venue, everything seemed to be in order, pretty much like wed never been away. There was, however, one surprise which took the evening into unexpected territory. It was cold. In fact it was nearly freezing out there and from the minute the band hit the stage it was clear that, even though the audience was loving it, the chances of us achieving elevation were slim. The gig had its moments (Elevation being one of them) but another problem (though in many ways encouraging) is that here it seems the newer U2 material is far more well known than the older. The Boy songs didnt get anything like the usual recognition and my visionary insistence that we put Bad into the set created without doubt the low point of the evening.
My one smile came from seeing Selma Hayek in the audience. The encore section of the show begins with a set of 'one arm bandit' reels which spin around revealing the symbols from Achtung Baby with a mixture of political and cultural icons. For each of the shows on this part of the tour we have made a custom version of this piece, including famous faces from that country and the one for Mexico contains.Selma Hayek. She must have been surprised.
After the show we did a runner to Mexico City, where hopefully it might be a little warmer.
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Summer may be over, but several fruits and vegetables are still in season and ready to be worked into stews and casseroles to warm you up. Fall is the season for:
Not only are these cool weather fruits and veggies perfect to decorate with this time of year, but they taste great too!
Roast butternut squash, beets and carrots for a delicious side dish. Add apples and cranberries to your morning pancakes. Try blending pumpkin with fat free milk, frozen vanilla yogurt and a dash of pumpkin pie spice for a tasty, nutritious treat. And warm up with a big bowl of comforting Butternut Squash soup.
Here's a recipe that's sure to do the trick:
Roasted Butternut Squash Soup
4 cups cubed (1-inch), peeled butternut squash
1 Tbsp Olive Oil
¼ tsp salt
4 large shallots, peeled and halved
1 (½ inch) piece peeled fresh ginger, thinly sliced
2 ½ cups chicken broth (fat-free, low-sodium)
2 Tbsp chives, ½ inch slices
Black pepper to taste
Preheat oven to 375˚.
Combine first 5 ingredients in a roasting pan, toss well. Bake at 375˚ for 50 minutes or until tender, stirring occasionally. Cool 10 minutes. Place half of squash mixture and half of broth in a blender. Remove center piece of blender lid to allow steam to escape, secure lid on blender. Place a clean towel over opening in lid to avoid splatters. Blend until smooth. Pour into a large saucepan. Repeat with remaining squash mixture and broth. Cook over medium heat 5 minutes or until thoroughly heated. Top with chives and pepper.
So remember these great fall harvest foods next time you're in the kitchen!
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Serving Arizona, California, Hawaii, Nevada, the Pacific Islands, and Tribal Nations
Aerojet General Corp.
State: California(CA)
County: Sacramento
City: Rancho Cordova
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The Aerojet Rocketdyne Superfund site [note that Aerojet General Corporation acquired Rocketdyne, Inc. in 2013, and is operating as Aerojet Rocketdyne, Inc.] covers 5,900 acres near Rancho Cordova, 15 miles east of Sacramento. The northeastern edge of the site is about 1/2 mile from the American River. Since 1953, Aerojet and its subsidiaries manufactured liquid and solid propellant rocket engines for military and commercial applications and have formulated a number of chemicals, including rocket propellant agents, agricultural, pharmaceutical, and other industrial chemicals. In addition, the Cordova Chemical Company operated chemical manufacturing facilities on the Aerojet complex from 1974 to 1979. Both companies disposed of unknown quantities of hazardous waste chemicals, including trichloroethene (TCE) and other chemicals associated with rocket propellants, as well as various chemical processing wastes. Some wastes were disposed of in surface impoundments, landfills, deep injection wells, leachate fields, and some were disposed of by open burning. Underlying the site are extensive 40 to 100 foot-deep dredge tailings, a remnant of past gold mining operations.
In 1979, volatile organic compounds (VOCs) were found off-site in private wells and in the American River in 1983. Perchlorate, a component of solid rocket fuel, was found in drinking water wells off-site above the provisional reference dose range in January 1997. The communities potentially affected by this site are Rancho Cordova, population 61,000; Carmichael, population 68,000, Fair Oaks, population 41,000, and Gold River, population 9,000. The closest residence is about 500 feet away from the site. Groundwater is used extensively throughout the Rancho Cordova area to supply municipal, domestic, industrial and some irrigation water. Public and private drinking water supply wells have been contaminated and wells contaminated above response levels have been closed. Aerojet continues to monitor drinking water supplies to assure compliance with drinking water standards. Lake Natoma and Alder Creek are nearby and are used for recreational activities. The American River is a drinking water source, which receives indirect discharges from Aerojet's facility and groundwater treatment systems under National Pollution Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permits.
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Groundwater and surface water contain volatile organic compounds (VOCs) such as trichloroethene (TCE), perchloroethylene (PCE), 1,1-Dichloroethene, 1,1-Dichloroethane, 1,2-Dychloroethene, 1,2-Dichlorethane, 1,1,2-Trichloroethane, Carbon Tetrachloride, Vinyl chloride, Chloroform, and Freon-113 and other rocket propulsion waste products or components such as perchlorate and N-Nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA). VOCs are organic (carbon-containing) compounds that vaporize easily at room temperature. VOCs are commonly used in dry cleaning, metal plating, machinery degreasing, paint stripping, and as industrial solvents. Soils are contaminated with VOCs, perchlorate and metals including arsenic, beryllium, cadmium, chromium, cobalt, copper, lead, nickel, and zinc. Potential health risks include: 1) drinking contaminated groundwater, and 2) for persons with access to Aerojet property or Areas 39, 40, 41 and the Inactive Rancho Cordova Test Site (IRCTS) drinking contaminated surface water or coming into direct contact with or accidentally ingesting contaminated soils. Contaminated drinking water wells above the response levels have been removed from service.
Who is Involved
This site is being addressed through Federal, State, and potentially responsible parties' actions.
Investigation and Cleanup Activities
Change in cleanup approach: The 1989 Partial Consent Decree (PCD) for Remedial Investigation and Feasibility Study (RI/FS) was modified 4/15/02 to allow the site to be divided into Operable Units. The RI is a report detailing the nature and extent of contamination and the FS describes alternatives to address the contamination. Dividing the site into Operable Units (OUs) allows Aerojet and the regulating agencies to prioritize investigation and cleanup work; and accelerate cleanup.
The cleanup approach for the site under the modified PCD is to control groundwater contamination with two OUs, then remediate soil and groundwater at source areas (an additional 5 OUs). In 2001 EPA completed the Record of Decision for the long term groundwater cleanup of OU-3, the first groundwater action. The full construction of this action has been completed and the effectiveness of the groundwater containment systems are being evaluated. Many portions of the groundwater actions for OU-5 have also been completed and are in operation. The integrated plans for OU-5 including a number of contaminated soil areas were presented to the public in August 2009, and the final decision was formalized in February 2011. The first source area OU (OU-6) has completed the RI/FS process and a Proposed Plan was issued on May 1, 2013. Upon implementation of cleanup for the five source OUs, a cumulative risk review will be done to determine any further action required for the site as a whole.
Initial Actions
Interim Actions: Between 1983 and 1987, prior to the formal analysis and public process to select a long-term cleanup, five groundwater extraction and treatment (GET) facilities were installed as a barrier system, primarily to prevent further off-site movement of VOC contaminants. Each GET facility consists of a series of extraction wells and a groundwater treatment system to intercept contaminated groundwater before it moves off Aerojet property (GET A is in groundwater flow Zone 4, GET B is in groundwater flow Zone 3, GET D is in groundwater flow Zone 1, and GETs E and F in groundwater flow Zone 2). GETs E and F were combined in 1999 to provide for treatment of NDMA and perchlorate. GET E/F was further expanded in 2002 and in 2003 the discharge was diverted to the Buffalo Creek under an NPDES permit. GETs A and B discharge to Rebel Hill Ditch. GET A was moved to the GET B location in 2010. A sixth GET facility, the American River GET (AR GET) was placed in operation July 1998 to augment GET D VOC capture and discharges to Buffalo Creek.
As the long-term cleanup actions are determined through the RI/FS process culminating in a Record of Decision for each Operable Unit, any Interim Action is incorporated into the remedy selected.
Aerojet began a Time-Critical Removal Action in November 2009 to clean PCB- and metal-contaminated sediment from several drainage ditches and culverts in the Perimeter Operable Unit (OU-5) prior to weather conditions that could spread the contaminants. Final disposal of the 4,930 tons of soil was delayed by weather until the spring of 2010. EPA approved transfer of the soil to the Forward Class II landfill in Stockton. Aerojet submitted the final report on May 24 2010 and EPA finalized the Pollution Report completing the Removal Action the same day. EPA certified that Aerojet had fulfilled all requirements of the UAO to implement the Removal Action.
Site Studies
Entire Site: In 1983, with formal modification in 1998 and 2001, EPA ordered Aerojet to investigate the nature and extent of groundwater and soil contamination throughout the site with oversight by the U.S. EPA, the California Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC), and the Regional Water Quality Control Board (RWQCB). The investigation is phased to develop RI/FS reports for each individual OU, starting with OU-3 and OU-5 to ensure protectiveness from the groundwater contamination spreading beyond the property boundary.
Technology pilots are being conducted to assess in-situ bioremediation and other innovative technologies applicable to large scale groundwater remediation and methods to control dense non-aqueous phase liquids (DNAPL) and options available for DNAPL reduction.
Western Groundwater OU (OU-3): Studies to define the nature and extent of contamination of groundwater migrating from the western end of the Aerojet property were formally completed in 2001 when EPA signed a Record of Decision (ROD) specifying the selected groundwater cleanup plan for this part of the site.
Perimeter Groundwater OU (OU-5):In August 2002, the EPA and the State issued parallel orders to Aerojet to begin or expand critical work to achieve full containment of contaminated groundwater on the north and south side of Aerojet and prevent contamination from flowing off Aerojet's property. Aerojet was directed to conduct an RI/FS for the Perimeter Groundwater Operable Unit or OU-5 to address the groundwater and investigate 26 potential soil source areas located within Aerojet's perimeter development plans. The RI/FS for OU-5 was submitted to the EPA's National Remedy Review Board October 6, 2005 for review of compliance with national policy.
Studies similar to those conducted for OU-3 for plumes emanating from the north and south boundaries of the Aerojet property for OU-5 were completed in June 2009, including an extensive site-specific study of the potential risks from VOC vapors to people living and working above the contaminated groundwater. EPA issued a Proposed Plan for the Perimeter Groundwater OU in August 2009. The public comment period was extended by request to October 1, 2009. On August 11, 2009, a public meeting was held to present the plan and take verbal comments at the City Hall of Rancho Cordova. The ROD was signed on February 15, 2011.
Boundary OU (OU-6) is the first of five source areas scheduled to be addressed by sequential RI/FS studies. The RI report was finalized in 2011, and the final FS report was issued in 2012. EPA issued a Proposed Plan based on the information in the RI/FS report in May 2013 with a public comment period of May 8, 2013 to June 7, 2013. On May 16, 2013, EPA received and approved a request to extend the public comment period to September 20, 2013. EPA plans to issue the Record of Decision on this Site later in 2015.
Cleanup plans for the remaining OUs will be presented for public comment as they are developed. An examination of the effectiveness, protectiveness and regulatory compliance of the remedies for the entire Aerojet Site will lead to a final site-wide cleanup plan once remedies for all of the individual OUs are selected.
Remedy Selected
The Proposed Plan for Western Groundwater (OU-3) was issued in November 2000 and public meetings were held December 7, 2000 and January 17, 2001. The EPA issued the ROD for OU-3 on July 20, 2001 and a Unilateral Administrative Order to Aerojet for the work on August 9, 2002. OU-3 will contain contaminated groundwater on the western side of Aerojet and restore the aquifer between the on and off-property control systems. There are fifteen Contaminants of Concern in OU-3 groundwater but the primary contaminants are TCE, perchlorate, and NDMA.
The Aerojet Record of Decision for the Perimeter Groundwater OU (OU-5) was signed on February 15, 2011 including a responsiveness summary to public comments received. The ROD selected an Interim Remedy for Groundwater and a final cleanup for the contaminated soil locations. The groundwater remedy will hydraulically contain the plume areas to prevent the spread of contamination, with additional pumping and treating to intercept and remove highly contaminated groundwater where possible. Within OU-5, there are 17 contaminants of concern identified although TCE, NDMA and perchlorate are the primary contaminants as in OU-3. In OU-5 there are four different groundwater areas and some of them require cleanup actions in other Operable Units to eliminate the contaminant source. We are considering this an interim groundwater remedy until the source areas are fully addressed. Most of the groundwater capture system is already in place and operating as part of the initial actions described above. The Soil Areas remedy is to excavate or otherwise clean the soil areas to levels protective for residential use. Fourteen contaminants of concern were identified in the soil areas, including metals and others that are not issues in groundwater. We recognize that there could be difficulty in achieving the desired cleanup levels in some of the soil areas, so the remedy includes a combination of engineering controls (such as intercepting soil vapor) and Institutional Controls (limiting the land use) as necessary.
Cleanup Ongoing
The final groundwater extraction and treatment system planned for the Western Operable Unit (OU-3) began operating in May 2010. At GET H (Area 1), the treatment plant and all extraction wells are operating. At GET J (Area 2), all ten extraction wells are in service. Combined GET E/F with 21 extraction well locations is fully operational. GET K (Area 3) extraction wells, pipelines and treatment systems in Rancho Cordova were completed and operational in 2009. The GET L (Area 4) Bajamont Way Treatment plant is across the American River from the Aerojet Facility in Carmichael and has been fully operational since 2008. GET L-A is also across the American River in Ancil Hoffman Park, a county park and golf course in the City of Carmichael. Treated water is used for irrigation of the County's golf course. EPA has been coordinating with Aerojet to design and oversee preparation of a rigorous Effectiveness Evaluation of the full OU-3 remedy, with a major working sessions held in 2010 and planned for 2011. Evaluation of the effectiveness of the systems will be conducted by EPA and the State until satisfactory containment of the contamination can be demonstrated. A formal public review of the remedy will be conducted by EPA every five years until all cleanup objects are attained. These Five-Year Reviews will examine ongoing work throughout the Aerojet Site, not only one Operable Unit.
The groundwater extraction and treatment system for the Perimeter Groundwater Operable Unit (OU-5) is close to full operation. Additional design and construction of extraction systems will proceed under orders from EPA and the State. The water treatment systems have been constructed, although treatment systems may be modified or expanded as needed in the future. Planning and cleanup are complete in several of the soil areas and others are proceeding rapidly with EPA oversight. The OU-5 groundwater containment is being examined In conjunction with the effectiveness evaluation of the OU-3 groundwater remedy.
Cleanup Results to Date
Nine groundwater extraction and treatment systems "GETs" are operating throughout the Aerojet site: ARGET, GET A/B, GET D,, GET E/F, GET H-A, GET J, GET K-A, GET L-A and GET L-B. Together they remove over 20 million gallons of contaminated groundwater each day on average.
Through the end of 2014, all the groundwater extraction and treatment systems at Aerojet in OU-3 and OU-5 have treated a cumulative total of 137 billion gallons of groundwater and removed more than one million pounds of chemical contaminants.
Western Groundwater OU-3: The Western Groundwater Operable Unit is containng the contaminated groundwater on the western side of Aerojet and eventually will restore the aquifer. All of the planned extraction wells and treatment systems are operating. Under the Unilateral Administrative Order that EPA issued to Aerojet to complete construction of the Western Groundwater remedy, Aerojet publishes a notice to the public annually, showing the current maximum extent of groundwater contamination in OU-3.
Potentially Responsible Parties
Potentially responsible parties (PRPs) refers to companies that are potentially responsible for generating, transporting, or disposing of the hazardous waste found at the site.
The PRP for this site is the Aerojet Rocketdyne, Inc.
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Community Involvement
Public Meetings:
Boundary Operable Unit 6 Proposed Plan Comment Period
EPA held a proposed plan public meeting on May 15, 2013 at 7pm at the Rancho Cordova City Hall, 2729 Prospect Park Dr., Rancho Cordova. On May 16, 2013, EPA received and approved a request to extend the comment period to September 20, 2013. Transcripts are provided in the Documents and Reports - Community Involvement section. Once the Record of Decision is completed for OU-6, it will include formal response to all public comments received. It will be posted in the Documents and Records - Record of Decision Section above and a copy sent to the local site repositories listed below. A notice will appear in the local when it is completed.
Community Advisory Group for Aerojet Superfund Issues
EPA meets with representatives of a variety of community interests since March 22, 2001, to provide information on establishing a Community Advisory Group (CAG) for the site. A CAG has been formed and holds bimonthly meetings. The CAG Chairperson is Janis Heple. The most recent available notes from the CAG meetings are located in the Documents and Reports - Community Involvement section. If you would like to come to an Aerojet CAG meeting, please send your email address to Jackie Lane, Community Involvement Coordinator at firstname.lastname@example.com
Western Groundwater (OU-3) Proposed Plan Public Meeting
The EPA held two meetings for public comment on the Western Groundwater Proposed Plan, one on December 7, 2000, and the second on January 17, 2001. Transcripts are provided in the Documents and Reports - Community Involvement section. Formal Response to all public comments received are in the Record of Decision for OU-3, in the Documents and Records - Record of Decision section.
Perimeter Groundwater (OU-5) Proposed Plan Public Meeting
The EPA held one meeting for public comment on the Perimeter Groundwater Proposed Plan, August 11, 2009. EPA's Proposed Plan Presentation at that meeting and meeting transcripts are provided in the Documents and Reports - Community Involvement section. Formal Response to all public comments received are in Appendix A of the OU-5 Record of Decision, in the Documents and Records - Record of Decision section.
Public Information Repositories
The public information repositories for the site are at the following locations:
Central Library
828 I Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 264-2972
California State University Library
Documents Department
2000 State University Drive East
Sacramento, CA 95819
Tel: (916) 278-5672
The most complete collection of documents is the official EPA site file, maintained at the following location:
Superfund Records Center
Mail Stop SFD-7C
95 Hawthorne Street, Room 403
San Francisco, CA 94105
(415) 820-4700
Enter main lobby of 75 Hawthorne street, go to 4th floor of South Wing Annex.
EPA Site Manager
Carmen Santiago-Ocasio
75 Hawthorne Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
EPA Community Involvement Coordinator
Mail Code SFD-6-3
75 Hawthorne Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
EPA Public Information Center
State Contact
Steven Ross, DTSC
(916) 255-3694
11020 Sun Center Dr. Suite 200
Rancho Cordova CA 95670
California Department of
Toxic Substances Control
8800 Cal Center Dr.,
Suite 350
Sacramento, CA 95826-3200
PRP Contact
Community Contact
Other Contacts
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How to reach the Hotel by car:
follow the indications for Centro Storico - Universit� per stranieri.Go straight ahead on Via Pinturicchio,and you will get at Piazza Fortebraccio(you will have on your left the Etruscan Arch) : you have to take the street that is on the right sight of the Arch (via Battisti) and you will get in Piazza Cavallotti .You have to go down on via della stella to arrive on 'via della Cupa' and you will find the indication to our hotel on your left.
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The hotel is connected to the most important stations: it is 2/3 minutes walk from the Bus Stop of Piazza Morlacchi and Piazza Italia, and 5/6 minutes from Piazza Partigiani, important squares from which daily busses depart to all the most important Umbrian centres. It takes less than 10 minutes to get to the main railway station.
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"about to leave on their annual mecca"
That sentence makes no sense. I recommend 'pilgrimage.'
How stable is this for a desktop environment? I want to try it out, maybe even stick with it. Can't wait for the stable version . Has anyone tried it? worked on it or rc-1?
.38 RC1 had too many bugs.
I got too many regression. I saw 1 kernel panic and HPLIP stopped working. So, I has to revered to .37. I need to read what was fixed and then give RC2 a try.
I've just come to compile it on a regular desktop (Gentoo).
I've notice nothing to report till.
Let's see.
with .38 RC2 HPLIP is working again.
Seems to be a nice kernel so far. Much better than rc1 which only worked on some systems. If you use U or D, you can use my install script for U mainline kernel:
(there are scripts for 32 to 38 there)
I tested nvidia 260.19.29, 260.19.36 and 270.18 with that kernel, worked without problems. Also fglrx installed with my script is compatible.
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Weapons pack for me, have subs for the rest.
I really need a KG, hope I can get hom before he sells out!
Would like a BA He-Man and a TJ to display as Kronis too.
And will be getting Rattlor, Frosta, Cy-Chop and Weapons Pak. Expensive month for me!
Did someone save the Rattlor pic!? Want to see the armour.
Weapons pack for me, have subs for the rest.
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Getting my sub stuff butttt
Black lion
Weapons pack
And prob another Trappy for a techno figure
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I have four subs...also buying:
1X Frosta
1X Rattlor
5X Weapons packs
1X Cy-Chop
1X Poison Ivy
Oy...why did they have to put up Grayskull and BA He-Man?!
So now it's:
BA He-Man
King Grayskull
Weapons Pack
I'm strongly thinking about getting another Trap Jaw to keep as Kronis, but he's easy enough to come by.
KG is an interesting addition to the list considering that he's only been re-sold, if memory serves me right one other time and that lasted what, a few minutes?
I don't see how he's going to last very long considering. In-fact he's probably only there, for the orb to coincide with TOD Sorceress this month, but again I just don't see the amount of stock effectively helping any one out.
Oh Lordy, this is going to be an EXPENSIVE month !!
Sub: Frosta, Rattlor, & Cy-Chop
Day-of: Weapons Pack (x2); Frosta; Rattlor; Poison Ivy, Elasti-Girl
I'm not buying the JLU pack. It's one new figure (with 2 repeats) for $30. Total rip off.
Very excited for that Weapons Pack... But I wish I already had Dekker to give him the mace and shell-shield!!
A Want List of Sorts: Saurod, Buzz-Saw Hordak, Dragstor, Perfuma, Dare, Snake Mountain, Prahvus, Veena, King Chuboolu, Flying Fists He-Man, Terror Claws Skeletor, Point Dread & The Talon Fighter... and all the other POP & NA characters.
CRAP I missed the Rattlor "in armor" pic as well. Now they only show Cy Chop Did ANYONE save this pic or am I outta luck? lol
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I checked Matty looking for the Rattlor pic. It was gone, but I was able to fill out a survey. That is kind of cool, maybe they are taking feedback seriously.
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Whoa, October is going to be mad pricey for me!
Getting my MOTUC sub figures will make my battle with WSOD a bit less stressful as I'm gunning for a BA He-Man, K. Grayskull and a Weapons Pack.
Rattlor armor pic: MOTUC Rattlor Discussion Thread #176 - I want this armor, for me he does look much better this way
2-3 Weapons Paks and done...
Just the Weapons Pak in addition to the subscription stuff.
Hard to believe we're already in October. Where has the time gone?
Thats pretty cool that Trap Jaw, King Grayskull and BA He-man are all going on sale this month. I can see these selling out extremely quickly, so will try my best to pick them up early. I actually already own these but Ive purposefully kept them MOC. It would be nice to grab one each for my son though as hes building a nice little collection of loose figures for himself. (And of course I get to join in and play along which is fun ) Rattlor and Frosta come with the sub, so Ill just buy a Cy-Chop and the Weapons Pack on top of all of that and Ill be set for October! Expensive yes, but so worth it.
Its utterly crazy how much I spend on MOTU stuff, as I just picked up a bunch of MOC vintage figures on eBay the other day as early birthday presents to myself.
Nice to see BAHM this month. ! Been waiting for this figure for a while now. I'm torn on getting a KG since I don't really collect "Powers of Grayskull" figures but a nice looking figure nonetheless. Excited for Rattlor,could care less about the armour. . 2 purchases this month!
I have both MOTUC subs, but beyond that, I'll likely get 2 Weapons Paks and perhaps Ivy, although I'm thinking about selling off my dcuc stuff... We'll see!
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I really hope I can get King Grayskull, BA He-Man and the Weapon's pack. I have to teach a class for a half our after the sale starts. Hope there are some left. I also hope I get my Sept. day of sale items soon they are still listed as processing. That has me worried.
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Getting the sub figs & pack already. Also picking up an extra Rattlor & BA He-Man......he'll sell out fast.
Frosta & Rattlor are coming through my sub. I'll be picking up a Weapons Pack for sure & will TRY to get a King Grayskull. Would like to have another BA He-Man for a custom. We had nothing in August & then Sept & Oct we get hit with all kinds of action figures! OUCH MATTEL!!! I'm not Daddy Big-Bucks over here!
That is a GREAT idea. I'm gonna copy your idea pal.
I want my other half.
1 Rattlor
2 Weapons packs*
1 Cy-Chop
1 Poison Ivy
*I think I'll get 2, but I can't remember all that's in the weapons pack. Can anyone provide a link with pics of it. I'm having a brain cramp at the moment & I'm not finding any pics at the moment.
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