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Israel's true friends should tell
Long time we expect Israel's true friends to tell truth. Instead true friends tell many small lies. Many small lies create one big twisted picture. Then true friends are surprised their vision differs from the world outside.
This friendly article is full of small and big lies, too many to go over all. Let look on some of them.
The interesting region map. There are no "1967 borders". Lie. Only ceasefire lines. Many readers wrote about it many times in comments before. Even if Economist's editor was ignorant he/she is expected to read some of the comments some of the time.
If 1967 is mentioned on the map, the West bank belonged to Jordan and the Gaza strip to Egypt. Both should be painted accordingly. Instead these territories are painted to the unclear color as landed
from the moon. Lie
E-1, ... impeding connections to the rest of the fledgling state of Palestine ... Travel from Bethlehem, south of Jerusalem, to Ramallah, the Palestinians' administrative headquarters, would be a nightmare.
Hello, look on your article map. There is no connection between Gaza and West bank. How about travelling from Gaza to Ramallah? Is this not an "obstacle to the peace" why E1 is? Lie.
moderate Palestinians of Fatah
Lie. Fatah fired rockets from Gaza in one line with Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Fatah "moderate" Palestinians do not recognize the "Jewish state". There is no difference in the Fatah and Hamas goals, only in the way.
The Arab population is growing faster than the Jewish one
One big lie. In Israel and the West bank the Arab population birth rate decreases constantly. Arabs immigrate, specially the Christian Arabs from the West bank under the pressure of Muslims. Obama should speak loudly about this.
Or do you mean the Arab population of Gaza, Egypt, Yemen? What about Arab population of France, Germany Britain? It is also growing fast. By the end of 21 century Germans will be minority in the Germany. Will we see two German states?
Newly democratic Arab neighbours? Now just who might they be? The philanthropic purveyors of the Religion of Peace, presumably. Careful, Economist, you're trailing some very ugly skirts here.
It is sad to see so much anti-Israeli retoric. People who blow themselves up on busses, specifically target civilians and use their own children as human shields have the world's sympathy, while those who do whatever is necessary to protect their children are called aggressors. I blame the one-sided news coverage by this newspaper, BBC,CNN and the majority of the media. You are giving to the islamic world the rope, on which they will hang you one day.
"It is sad to see so much anti-Israeli retoric."
So facts are rhetoric now?
Sorry Melissa, you lack facts, that's why you are always getting corrected.
I sincerely appreciated your title: Speak now, Mr Obama, loudly.
This the key issue in this moment.
The only mean to freeze the American unconditional flow of money to Israel.
Israeli are very sensitive to money by nature.
Mr Netanyahu is actually blackmailing Mr Obama, just at the beginning of the new Obama's term, when he has many other American priorities to fix.
Mr Netanyahu is making harder than necessary this killing, which he calls war, a war against civilians trapped in the Gaza concentration camp.
A war crime! In the complete indifference of all the so called civil world.
Mr Netanyahu is also doing so his free electoral campaign, and the civil world say nothing.
It is therefore not only Mr Obama which should speak, but all the civil world should make his job reporting to the Hague Court the open Israeli war crimes.
Hops, but America does not recognize the Hague Court, so all other so called civil countries are in stand by, or, better said, they joust look to the moon and not to the murdered Palestinian people.
In addition, the UN Council will be a paper tiger until the Veto right will be still valid rule, after 60 year from the II world war, while the world geopolitics is completely changed, but the UN ambassadors care more to their own chair, being silent.
Hypocrisy is the master road of all counties and also this paper should honestly admit that.
The World has to speak loud ans stop funding Israel: America, United Kingdom, Russia, Germany, Italy, France, Sweden, Norway, Brazil, Argentina, an so on, otherwise the global hypocrisy might become global cowardliness.
Israelis are sensitive to money by nature? and you are not? Isn't that a bit antisemitic?
And by the way, how much money does USA give to Egypt and the Palestinian Authority? How about we stop that too?
That is simply a matter of fact. Nothing antisemitic about it.
We the West pour blood and treasure to keep your colonial experiment thriving and just think that you should end it and return to New York and the Ukraine. Or perhaps the Germans should give you a bit of their land seeing as they executed thousands of your people.
I am also the West, and my money is being given to the arab states, and I object to that. Israel can survive without US aid. can the other side?
Dont forget the million plus Jews ETHNICALLY CLEANSED from the Arab/muslim lands in a wave of ANTISEMITISM that swept these areas before and after 1948.
These Jews were expelled/forced to flee from these Arab/Muslim lands leaving all their property , possessions and thousands of years of community and culture behind.
They were not Zionists.
If they were, they would have sold their assets, and then gone to Israel with some money.
But they arrived in Israel destitute and penniless.
There have always been Jews in the area of Israel, despite being constantly murdered and exiled by wave after wave of invaders.
And yes the Arabs did invade from the Arabian Peninsular.
And yes Jesus was a Jew, as was almost everyone else in the area, but for the Romans.
Return to New York? Do you think that Jews are historically from New York? That's not completely out of touch with factual information. Just because there is a significant number of Jews who live in New York it does not make that their historic home. Israel is a democracy saturated with Western values in an area that opposes the West. That is what this is all about, Sharia Law conflicts with Western ideals. Not to mention the religion of Islam in its history has captured land, destroyed past historical and religious sites, and then builds on top of them to erase the history. Please educate yourself, you are embarrassing those of us from the "West".
Oops, you crossed the line there Iggyexpat! He said Israelis - you said antisemitic. There is a big difference as you probably know.
Of course you object, you are a jew. You think you have a right to the all the funds and the miniscule amount America gives to the refugees is too much. You probably feel you should get that too. Sorry izzy, the times they are a changing. Your people are losing sympathy the world over because of the evil actions of your people towards the Palestinians in their own land. Your bleating about supposed German transgressions during WWII are also becoming rather boring and ignorable. Realize that the times have changed and anger is building...
Nice to see The Economist to show some back-bone.With this endless brutality,arrogance and no respect to the rule of law Israel has been doing a very good job of setting up its own eventual annihilation.I do not believe that Mr Netanyahu and his cronies know the meaning of "PEACE".On the one hand he claims to wanting peace and the next minute continues on grabbing/stealing Palestinian territories.Israel's Zionist regime is purely run with hate towards all its neighbors and it is running out of time to make amends.It is virtually in a state of isolation but the Zionist regime is too blind to see this.Please USA stop bowing to all cruel and unjust Israeli demands.
Why on earth would Israel change tack? They have clearly won. Surrounded by enemies in a state of perpetual war in which they suffer minimal casualties yet consistently gain territory. The country could never have survived without American financing due to the concentration of violent religious zealots inhabiting the region and they rightly have the continued support of the West in terms of guaranteeing their continued existence, as such there is no incentive in the west to treat them the same as any other group of religious zealots who are a threat to peace and stability in the region. This is where Israel misunderstands criticism from the USA and EU. We are your friends. We are your allies. But, absent the religious zealotry prevalent across the middle east (i'm talking about Arabs and Jews here) we also have friends on the other side. We criticize them for their threats to stability in the region. Israel also constitutes a threat to peace. We have nothing left but the simple moral argument and our message is the same to all sides. This violence is unacceptable. You cannot go on like this. We are no longer interested in hearing about the injustices of the other side. Arab or Jew, we're talking to you. This has to stop now. So sort it out.
"Why on earth would Israel change tack? They have clearly won. "
If Israel has "won" anything, then Israel has won a future where their children get murdered on the streets by Islamic extremists because of the many wrongs that their government committed to achieve this future. If this can ever be claimed to be a victory, it is a highly Pyrrhic one, to say the least.
Personally, I'd go for a Zonk instead.
Pyrrhic to the civilians, yes. The state of perpetual war is useful to their leaders however, as it gives their dogma legitimacy. particularly when their side receives such a small number of the casualties. Take a gander at the ancient game of 'Go'. When the board looks like that, you've won. Eventually, however they are running the risk that one day something truly terrible will happen and millions could die. This is why it has to stop now, because neither side can take a moral high ground. It is just simply unacceptable that this conflict should be allowed to continue. I don't know how the west can make this ultimatum without further bloodshed though.
Two weeks ago Israel got the worldwide sympathy and support standing against barbarian rocket attack from Gaza. Two weeks later Israel is very lonely.
I think this psychotic behavior of the world community says more about the world than about Israel. the pattern is clear, if we remember that Jews got the most sympathy in 1945-46, when the world needed to bury 6 million Jewish bodies. We find the world likes Jews, when they die.
So I prefer not to be loved and live. You can eat your hat
I prefer to give you sympathy, but that is besides the point. You should simply leave Palestine to the Palestinians and return to Poland, Florida, New York, etc...
Fifth generation of Jews is born on this land. Why should they return to the Poland or Florida?
And if you mentioned Palestinians. do you really know the difference between Palestinians and Jordanians? Palestinians and Lebanese? Do you know that two generations ago many of these "Palestinians" lived in Syria or Egypt?
Give me the sympathy, I will give knowledge. The usual trade Jews do with the world.
"Give me the sympathy, I will give knowledge. The usual trade Jews do with the world."
Speaking about "snotty and racist ethnocentric superiority complex". It's sad you cannot make an argument without giving way to stereotypes.
There is nothing psychotic about the behavior.
Israel got sympathy for the rocket attacks because it was felt that they were undeserved; but then Israel decided to be an asshole about it, so the sympathy is lost.
Or to put it in another way-- we feel sympathy for victims, but that sympathy ends the moment the victim becomes an asshole.
1. At least I can make an argument.
2. Can't find the "snotty and racist ethnocentric superiority complex" in my words. Please point out.
3. Stereotypes exist. It is called also "cultural diversity". There is even a science called Anthropology, which study "stereotypes" among human beings.
Yes, this is what I call a "psychotic behavior". To feel sympathy for victims judging by 30 seconds news item. Without understanding the background and the context.
Like to see in the news a puny man dragged by two husky men and momentarily cry for the poor puny guy. Some interest may discover that a serial killer was arrested by a special police squad.
That's not psychotic.
It's a reasonable assumption given the facts presented.
In fact, in many ways to NOT make the assumption is psychotic.
You are right. The immediate reaction is natural. However I expect the person will understand that the reaction is caused by 30 seconds news, will be ready to learn more on the subject and even to change the opinion when more facts are known.
But Israel and the Middle East context is well known to the diplomats, politicians and reporters. One may love and respect Israel, like Canada. One may hate Israel like Iran. It is completely OK, this is a position on the international scene. To love and support Israel one week but to hate and condemn next week is unreasonable and psychotic.
Eventually,they will!
RARELY has Israel looked lonelier.
I like this expression "lonelier" since Economist published the article "Even more lonelier". Egyptian mob stormed the Israeli embassy, Economist accused Israel and declared that Israel is even more lonelier.
Since then mob several times stormed the Presidential Palace, streets are burning, tens dead in the street fights, hundreds wounded. Tens thousands dead in Syria, not much property remained to burn. But Egypt and Syria are not lonely, they are burning together with the rest Middle East. Only Israel stands still and lonely as a beautiful flower in the burned desert.
We are proud of Israel
I couldn't agree with you more .
I couldn't agree with you more .
Israel has to reject enemies out of their actual territory which is, unlike Iran and most Arab states, very limited.If the flames of war were igniting inside Israel,with thousands of misiles bombing, whomever the final triumph would belong to, Israel's temporal prosperation would vanish into thin air. So the Israel has to enlarge their land, at least creats more buffering lands.
As 242 is not being enforced, Augustus Caesar (the best Administrator ever) would rescind 181 & move the UN to Jerusalem & the Secretariat to the settlements; Peace breaks out! QED
Rather mundane and predictable article.
The UN does not rank very highly in Israel because its inbuilt anti-Israel majority has created a sense that, irrespective of right or wrong, Israel will always be voted into the wrong. Never forget the evil Zionism=Racism vote, and all those honourable members who voted for it.
It also seems to have taken the Arab/Muslim world 65 years to accept the 1947 Partition Plan.
Now we have to see how long it takes them to accept Israel and actually talk of a meaningful peace. Not just a cessation of hostilities (a Hudna I think it is called), but a real peace.
Israel has been talking of developing the area E1 for over 20 years,
and the hysterical reaction is the same every time.
The solution to this issue is the Refugees .
The Palestinian refugees.
And the Jewish refugees.
The million plus Jews who were forced to flee/expelled (ETHNICALLY CLEANSED) from the Arab/Muslim lands by the wave of Antisemitism that swept these areas before and after 1948.
The Palestinians want to return to pre-1948 areas in the knowledge that the demographics will ensure that Israel will be eliminated.
That is not peace.
And the Jewish refugees will certainly not want to return to their uncertain second class existance in the Arab/Muslim lands.
You are so unbalanced when it comes to Israel that you have no credibly whatsoever. Your atavic antisemitsm oozes from every word you write and when I see the comments of your readers it is another confirmation of what I am saying. You have become a propagandist press and as such you are doomed.
The zionist propaganda has well-organized the confusion between the two words ANTISEMIT and ANTIZIONIST (or anti israeli government, in a more retricted case) – this is pathetic !
The trick can only work for the masses with low education or the most candid people. Please spare us that !
The zionist propaganda is still trying to perpetuate this confusion is relayed through candid medias and zelots (Massada fanatism rings a bell ? Islamists have a fierce competition) on internet, as a skillfull campaign or not even aware of the issues.
Nearly all jews in XIXth century were ANTIzionists (for social reasons AND religious ones).
Before zionist manipulation of the Bible in the 1890s and 1920s - stricken by Nationalism contagion from european Nations - jewish religious leaders (grand rabbis) understood the metaphysical difference between celestial Jerusalem ans and terrestrial Jerusalem, a mere spot of earth. Traditional jewish religious leaders were ANTI-zionists in the XIX th century.
Plus they were intelligent enough to understand in advance the human nightmare zionist claims would create around the old (small)kingdoms of Israel and Judah !
And the world acknowledged these rabbi's ideals with the Holocaust!
Poor jew. Cry me a river. Now you are blaming the entire world for a few ovens run by a few Germans?
Get over it; we have. We simply don't care about ancient history and your never ending bleating about it and usie of it as justification fo rthe holocaust that has been purpetrated on the Palestinians by jews for the past 65 years.
Firstly, This was my reply to the Flabb's assertion as to the wisdom of the Rabbis in their refusal to go along with Zionism during the 19th century.
Secondly, You pompous A#%&^@%^%D!, The Holocaust may be some event that YOU put in the background. It didn't happen in ancient times IT HAPPENED IN OUR TIME and it is not a trifle matter. It did not happen to your ilk, so you conveniently "got over it", how touching. You don't know the meaning of the concept of holocaust so don't dare mention it as a palestinian affliction. Morons like you are the ones contributing to this magazine, that why it's so pitiful. Maybe if the so called palistinans had a holocaust of their own ,there wont be a discussion about "palestine" on this board.
The extremist Jews, the Jewistas, do not care for the rest of the world's opinions as long as they have the Anglos of the US in their pocket. You can already see how they are laying the groundwork for war, when they will scurry behind America to hide.
The decision by Netanyahu to build more houses in a very sensitive area is just another example of the Israeli government's hardline approach and unwillingness to show anything but aggression to the Palestinians.
It is deliberate, provocative, and designed to perpetuate the divisions.
When will we wake up to the reality that Israel is not served by peace. That would force them to make concessions. They do not want peace. Everything they have done in the last 75 years proves it.
Like the apartheid government of South Africa of the 1980's, it's time for the world to exert maximum pressure and force the changes. Europe is headed that way, and the US needs to come to the party with tough action.
Or this will go on for another 75 years.
It seems that neither The Economist nor Israel's leading writers understand the essence of the problem.
It's time for Israel to talk to Hamas says A.B. Yehoshua
Bravo. What a concise and brave article. I would like The Economist for having the courage to speak up against this long running injustice. Thank you
Not clear that Mr. Obama should be engaged. Rather like a spoiled child, Mr. NetanYAHOO thrives on tantrum and attention. You're making one mistake which is to assume that the United States is somehow a friend (or a parent) of Israel. In reality, the United States is neither. Israel was a tool to keep us engaged in the ME when we had no direct legitimacy there. At this point, Israel is more a liability than a useful partner there. Its embarrassing actions is causing us to distant ourselves--rather like a drunken date you have some responsibilities toward but wish she would just leave. Mr. Obama should do nothing. It is Mr. NetanYAHOO who forgot that Israel exist at the good graces of the United States. Israel is not in any existential crisis. Its problems are of its own making. Let it dig its own ditch. It is grown up now. Israel will not change because of Mr. Obama. Israel will change when Israelis realize that Mr. NetanYAHOO is taking them down the path of apartheid. Much like S. Africa eventually changed on its own, so too will Israel.
There is nothing childish about Mr. Netanyahu or the hard liners. People are getting killed and millions are suffering at their hands.
Study some psychiatry. Yes people are suffering but don't blame mr NetanYAHOO. Look instead at Israeli public opinion. They elected him. He is just the symptom of the deeper problem.
It is only a matter of time until Israel will come in full collusion with the "free world".That because Israel doesn't belong to this camp.The managed to disguised into a democracy but not even the same with others democracies from the West (although also these have many spoils)but invented a special one:"a Jewish democracy".In this "democracy"the main rule is that hte country is not for all citizens,that mean that 1.5 million Arab are second hand citizens.There is not a sign that Israeli people will change its preference for confrontation with the Arabs with an Iron hand (Jabotinsky doctrine).Because this confrontation becomes harder then also the politicians who are demanded to lead are more and more harder,fanatics ready to confront all the world because only them possess the truth.Bibi,the demagogue tricker will become a "leftist"-how Olmert,Livni,Sharon became)in comparison with who will fellow:Lieberman,Feiglin and so on.
At this stage with the devolution of huge numbers of israelis and arabs into religious fundamentalism, and the permanent hate the one solution all would desire - a civil society that embraces both cultures - is impossible. The partition as it is and will be is a bantustan of astounding unjust proportions.
Plus the nightmare of an eternal war on terror and a robotic arms race and vigilante worldwide state.
So the only REAL solution to neofascist israel and yihad is a massive UNO operations from Irak into the occupied territories till the wall and the donation of all those luxury homes with water to the palestinians, the demotion of the wall and the return manu militari to the green line.
This is longer overdue and only the financial control of jewish banksters on american politics has prevented it. But the longer we delay a solution like in the 30s with the rise of hitler, the closer we will walk into a genocide of palestinians
Peace process is dead.Netanyahu has since confirmed the sudden death.The process can be revived only if Netanyahu is denied another term.He and his supporters are the only barriers to peace.
If you really believe that there is a difference between one Israeli ruler and another, you need help. The only difference between them lies in their ability to manipulate the Western media (and opinion); they are just as bloodthirsty as each other. And the status quo is precisely what Israeli society wants (and I'm basing this on their own constant reminder to the rest of us that they are a democracy), as evidenced by how they vote. It was the same in apartheid S.Africa, and indeed, in Nazi Germany where Hitler enjoyed enormous popular support. Thus, perhaps we should rest assured that modern Israel is not unique in this regard. They're guided by what Hannah Arendt called "the banality of evil."
Extemelly Antisemetic post (yes I mean it).
Always comparing Israel to South Africa and Nazi Germany.
All citizens of Israel(not the disputed territories) have full rights. Thats Jews, Arabs, Muslims, Christians and all other minorities.
In South Africa only 20% had any rights. The rest had none.
In Germany, Hitler was elected by less than 35% of the electorate, and then he removed democracy from the Germans and replaced it by Nazism .
Please try a bit of OBJECTIVITY to your posts, and also a little
historical fact.
The anti-Semitism slur wasn't long in coming, was it? But you're aiming it at the wrong person this time, because it no longer has any meaning to me, thanks to people like you who have made it so through incessant abuse. Save it for those who still care about its meaning, therefore.
As for S.Africa, you obviously know more about the place than Desmond Tutu and Mandela, both of whom consider Israel's policies to be worse than what their people experienced. At any rate, at least the S.Africans didn't declare their country a "whites only" republic, unlike Israel, which considers itself a Jewish state (thus consigning everyone else to second-class status).
On Hitler, whatever you might say about the manner in which he came to power, you'd be deluding yourself if you believe that the overwhelming popular support he had owed much to Dr Goebbels' evil genius.
Sorry,you are wrong.I don't need any help because I am an optimist and a strong believer of peaceful co existence of people practicing different faiths side by side.The faith I practice also says so.Jews do not need to manipulate the western media.Because most of the western media are owned by the Jewish people.Israel is not a true democracy.It is a terrorist state.The state of Israel will continue to be disdained by the peace loving people of the world till the Israeli warmongers agree to live side by side with a viable Palestinian state equally powerful in all respect.Netanyahu's departure from power may restart the peace process within a very short time.It is now up to the Israelis to choose the right path.
I honestly wish you were right in saying I'm wrong. The evident reality, sadly, points to quite the opposite. For example, only you seem to believe in a "viable Palestinian state..." obviously unaware that the ever-expanding illegal settlements have created "facts on the ground" (to borrow an odious phrase), set in concrete and steel(quite literally) and protected by one of the most powerful military forces on the planet, and supported by the world's remaining superpower. Only a deluded optimist can imagine a "viable Palestinian state..." emerging from that.
BTW: I never said the Western media was controlled by Jews, not least because the facts simply don't support that lazy conspiracy theory. What I said is in black and white, and I challenge you to apologize for distorting it in such a grotesque manner.
You are entitled to what you may or may not honestly wish.You have wronged when you attacked me personally in your post by saying that I need help for believing that there is a difference between one Israeli ruler and another even though I did not express such views in my post.You have simply assumed it.I clearly said how the peace process can be restarted.You have every right to disagree with it.And for doing so,I would not suggest that you need help.
You have also found fault in my mentioning the term 'a viable Palestinian State'. Here,you have wronged again by calling me 'a deluded optimist' which I am not.May I take this opportunity to request you to refrain yourself from calling other people names?
My position on a viable Palestinian State is very clear.It has nothing to do with the ground realities that have been created by Israel by applying brutal military force.Israel must withdraw to its 1967 borders dismantling its illegal settlements without any reservation what so ever.The State of Palestine must be equally powerful like Israel economically, militarily as well as otherwise for fending of future Israeli attacks.Unless this happens,peace will never return to middle east.
As regards to the Western Media.
Nothing has been distorted in this respect.I believe that as most of the Western Media is owned by the Jewish people,they do not need to manipulate the media as Israel is one hundred percent sure about such media supports right or wrong.I have not stated anywhere that you have said that the Western Media is controlled by the Jews.Read the post again and find out the truth.Be rest assured that I do not like to put my words into someone's mouths as you have wrongly done on this issue.
You clearly are someone who won't let facts stand in the way of your beliefs.
First, you clearly believe the malicious conspiracy theories about supposed Jewish control of the global media even though the easily-verifiable facts don't support it. But more importantly (from my perspective), such beliefs do not entitle you to distort what I wrote in such a fundamental way, at any rate. You are certainly entitled to hold those beliefs, but have no right to distort what I wrote to suit them.
Secondly, in regard to Palestine, only you and the corrupt, clueless and pathetic Palestinian "leadership" in Ramallah still believe in "the peace process" and the possibility of a Palestinian homeland. To that I can only say, dream on and goodbye. And only respond to this if you are willing to be guided by basic facts, not wild beliefs and fantasies.
Like the warmonger and bloodthirsty Netanyahu,people like you are bent upon to destroy Israel by fighting useless wars which is bound to end unfavorably for the Israelis in the long run.It is high time for the Israelis who want to live peacefully with the neighbors practicing other faiths side by side,irrespective of party affiliations,to unite and deny Netanyahu another term.The recent defeat of Israel in the UNGA vote should open your eyes.Israel could master only nine votes against the resolution,out of which,four are tiny island nations!Israel along with its protectors,stand complete isolated now!!
If you can't tell the difference between a largely meaningless, utterly tokenistic General Assembly declaration on the one hand, and the practical impossibility of establishing a Palestinian state on the other, I'm afraid I can't help you further. Also, if Israel has already ignored several Security Council resolutions on the matter, I wonder why you believe it will take any notice of the pointless talking shop called the General Assembly. Indeed, you seem unaware that it has announced, in response, the further expansion of settlement activities and withheld taxes meant for even their poodle regime in Ramallah. So, again, dream on.
Furthermore, if you believe that the illegal settlements only started with Netanyahu (and will end with his regime), you have no knowledge of Israel's (post-1948) history, nor do you have any basic understanding of what the Zionist project is about.
I like optimists, and consider myself as one. But there's a whole world of difference between being optimistic and indulging in wild, fact-averse fantasies.
You are not an optimist.You can never be one because you are nothing but an apathetic.Anyway,will you come forward to say what is the course open for the Palestinians to follow now for reaching the goal?You consider others,specially those who disagree with you,as not knowledgeable as well as not well informed like you.What a pity!Lastly,be informed for a change that nothing is impossible in this planet.
The solution to the Palestinian problem is a one-state solution, including the right of return for those so cruelly displaced so many years ago. Agreed, the latter may not be a practical possibility, either because the victims may have died in foreign refugee camps or, having already settled abroad, might prefer financial compensation instead. But it is the principle that matters here.
As for a one-state solution, that, in fact, is what is emerging on the ground, literally. The Jews and the Palestinians are, after all, one people who, before the murderous gangsters' arrival from Eastern Europe following WW2, were living in perfect harmony with each other in the region. By effectively annexing the tiny strips of land that we now call Palestine, Israel has effectively created a single state - in effect a return to the pre-1948 situation. This being the case, the only thing we owe the Palestinian people is to ensure that they are not treated as second-class citizens in this new entity which you might call Israel-Palestine. That's the only realistic solution.
Now you have finally spoken up.I appreciate your courage.I have no problem with your views even though I don't know as yet whether you are a Israeli or a Palestinian.As mentioned before,I believe in peaceful coexistence.I have seen the plight of the Palestinian people.The European countries,mostly Eastern Europeans and the Russians,duly supported by the Americans,got rid of their unwanted Jewish citizens,whom you call murderous gangsters,are the main supporters of the bloodthirsty Israeli leaders now ruling Israel.The Israelis must find a way to elect new leaders for bringing back the desired peace for all.
I am neither Palestinian nor Jewish, and am not even from the region, however broadly defined. I'm just a concerned global citizen who has a visceral aversion to atrocious injustices of the kind that Israel routinely inflicts on these helpless people.
It might also surprise you to learn that I am a victim of what we now call Islamofascism, and am therefore not a friend of the likes of Hamas, etc (and I realize that Palestinians are not all Muslims). Indeed, I have wondered on these same pages why Muslims never express any outrage when their fellow Muslims have perpetuated unspeakable atrocities either against themselves or those, like me, whom they consider "infidels." The examples abound: The Darfur genocide, the murderous persecution of Christians in places like Iraq, Pakistan, Indonesia, northern Nigeria, etc. But I will never allow my justified and very deep dislike of Islamism (even in its supposedly mild form) to becloud my judgement in these matters.
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Jared Serbu, DoD reporter, Federal News Radio
The Air Force has several new to-do items on its cyber list after a summit of senior civilian and uniformed leaders in November.
But the answer to one of its most intriguing questions — Does anyone have a common understanding of what's encompassed by the word "cyber" in the first place? — remains elusive.
"There are different lines of operation in cyberspace. When some people think of it, they think of the smaller parts of it like what you're doing in your offensive and defensive capabilities, versus what you're doing to build the network and extend the network. That's a different element that we [previously] threw in the same bucket," said Lt. Gen. Michael Basla, the Air Force's chief information officer. "I think we'll draw a clearer line and distinction between what's required to build, operate and maintain the network and what's required to operate on the network. I think operating on the network will be where we coalesce around our definition of cyberspace operations."
The Air Force, Basla said, also needs to gain a better understanding of what the military as a whole will require in terms of cyber capabilities. That question, he told reporters in a media roundtable at the Pentagon on Friday, is dependent on the outcome of ongoing discussions among the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He said he expects the chiefs and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to arrive at decisions later this week that will elucidate the manpower and technology requirements of the military's U.S. Cyber Command going forward.
"We will then understand what those demands are, what our capabilities are and we'll address those gaps," Basla said.
Right people, right training
The recent summit tried to answer these and several other questions, including whether the service is poised to provide the nation with the cyber talent and equipment the military will need in future years and whether Air Force commanders understand the possibilities cyber capabilities can bring to the battlefield.
Lt. Gen. Michael Basla, chief information officer, Air Force
Ensuring the service has the right talent is key to its future. Basla said the Air Force needs to study whether or not its cyber forces are organized properly to support Cyber Command. Currently, he said, performing cyber missions requires contributions from personnel in various functional areas across the Air Force: engineers, intelligence analysts, acquisition experts, network maintainers and many others.
"That's really not how we've done business in the past," he said. "Before, if I was a pilot, I was a pilot. In cyber, it takes a team. Are we properly organized in the Air Force to facilitate that teaming? I think that's the question. Right now we pull from various organizations across the Air Force to put that team together."
That team includes members who are explicitly cyber warriors, however, such as those the Air Force trains in offense and defensive cyber operations at Hurlburt Field in its 39th Information Operations Squadron.
Basla said while the quality of the training the Air Force gives incoming airmen is top-notch, it's far from clear that the Air Force is training enough of them. He said increasing the graduate rate of the service's cyber schoolhouses is probably necessary, but the magnitude of the increase will depend on the "demand signals" the Pentagon sends when it tells the military services more about the future of Cyber Command.
"Right now, we project we'll meet today's demands in the fourth quarter of 2014," he said. "But I expect the demand signal to continue to go up. We're going to have to go expand the throughput rate, and we've got some ideas on how do to do that. We might have to have 24 hour operations, we might need more bed spaces, we might need more instructors and, if that's what it takes, that's what we'll do."
Immersion, discussion for senior leaders
Another objective of the Nov. 15 summit, Basla said, was to raise the awareness of the military's cyber capabilities among the service's senior uniformed leaders. The summit followed an earlier full-day immersion session for commanders at Cyber Command and the National Security Agency at Fort Meade. Md.
"We took graduate-level material and put it in a form that was understandable and could generate a high-level discussion," he said. "We took a whole day in which there was 30 percent presentation on our part and 70 percent discussion among principals at the table. I think we made a huge step from the senior leader perspective."
At more junior levels of the service, Basla said planners and operators already understand that cyber is an important arrow in the military's quiver.
"We have a cyber-operations weapons instructor course at Nellis Air Force Base, just like we have for the fighter force, just like the space force, just like the nuclear force. Now we see a synergy occurring out there between the planners and the operators in our exercises," he said. "It's really amazing and pretty awesome. The planners now recognize that there are options out there for targets. And the targets don't all have to be kinetic."
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Tightening of the muscles around the airway and chronic inflammation cause airways to narrow. This makes it hard to breathe.
The exact causes of asthma are unknown, but genetics play a role.
Certain conditions are known to trigger an asthma attack. These include:
Factors that may increase your child's chance of asthma include:
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Rivers is gonna have to step his game up....Roberts going in
R.I.P. to HunnyB/FlyGirl
If Roberts can defend decently, he may give Greivis a run at the starting gig.
Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams
Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston
Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts. The two best third strings in the league.
I'm so happy for Roberts!
I'm starting to think Rivers ceiling is a taller Brian Roberts
Roberts has more experience. Undrafted in 08. Played overseas as well i believe
yea played for Israel and Germany per wiki
Lance Thomas is a great glue guy to have on the bench. The dude plays hard and has passion. From what I saw, Duke fans loved him.
He was co-captain of the National Championship. One of my friends is a die hard Duke fan and he said he loved Thomas so much. He did so many things that went under the radar in the NCAA.
BTW, I am LOVING what I'm seeing from Roberts. Definitely a diamond in the rough so far. Hope he can take this and run with it.
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Hampton Inn & Suites - DeKalb
Located just moments from Northern Illinois University, with easy access to I-88 and the Historic Lincoln Highway (Route 38), the Hampton Inn hotel in DeKalb, IL, offers a comfortable base for guests traveling on business or vacationing in DeKalb, Illinois. The hotel is near golf courses and shops, restaurant and pubs in quaint downtown DeKalb and Sycamore. Stay connected with free WiFi, work in comfort at the ergonomic desk or watch movies on the HDTV. Sleep soundly on the clean and fresh Hampton bed® before waking to Hampton's free hot breakfast buffet, offering a variety of hot and cold favorites. Exercise at this hotel in DeKalb, IL, in the free fitness center or relax in the indoor swimming pool. Buy snacks from the 24-hour Suite Shop, and enjoy free tea and coffee, and information about what to see and do in DeKalb, in the welcoming lobby any time of the day or night. Stay connected with useful services and amenities in the free 24-hour business center or hold a successful event for up to 30 people in the 627 sq. ft. meeting room. Amenities include: Suite Shop, Fitness Center, Indoor Pool, Complimentary Continental "On the House" Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Meeting Room up to 32, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center, Guest Laundry, Refrigerators and microwaves in every room
Esther's Place - A Fiber Arts Studio
Handmade items from local wool - classes, gifts and more. Bed and breakfast service available.
CITY:Big Rock
Baymont Inn & Suites - DeKalb
Feel right at home when you stay at the Dekalb hotel. They offer an inviting atmosphere and friendly service, and their comfortable hotel rooms help you get plenty of rest. Stay connected to home and the office with free Wi-Fi Internet access throughout their hotel. Keep up your workout routine in their gym, and enjoy a refreshing swim in the indoor heated pool. Free continental breakfast awaits you each morning in our Baymont Breakfast Corner, and kids 17 and under stay free with an adult at our pet-friendly hotel. Amenities include: Fitness Center, Indoor Pool, Free Continental Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Pet Friendly, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center
Super 8 Motel/ Hampshire
Microwaves, mini-refrigerators and jaccuzi's in select rooms. Adjoining rooms, roll-away beds and cribs available.
Elgin Inn
With a complimentary continental breakfast each morning, indoor pool, pay-per-view movies and a caring staff, we will make your stay enjoyable.
Candlewood Suites
Playing by different rules, the extended-stay traveler needs a hotel that understands their special needs. We provide you the amenities that make you feel at home.
Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites - Sycamore
69 rooms, all queen and king beds for your comfort. Located close to Northern Illinois University, Texas Roadhouse, and Walmart. Amenities include: Fitness Center, Indoor Pool, Free Continental Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center, Refrigerators & Microwaves in all rooms.
Holiday Inn Hotel & Suites
A five star hotel located about 20 minutes from O'Hare Airport and 40 minutes from downtown Chicago. Joseph's Lounge and Bennigans Restaurant located within the facility.
Hampton Inn - Elgin
No. 1 rated for service in the State of Illinois. The staff is committed 100% to providing you with a great experience.
Super 8 DeKalb
Built in 1993 located just off the toll-way. Two minute drive to golf courses, downtown and historical DeKalb. Very convenient location with a friendly staff eager to help guests. Spa suites make a perfect weekend getaway. Amenities include: Indoor Pool, Free Continental Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Pet Friendly, Wi-Fi Access, Guest Laundry
Country Inn & Suites - Sycamore
The Country Inn & Suites hotel in Sycamore is less than two minutes from beautiful downtown Sycamore and just five minutes from Northern Illinois University. Our hotel's location in Sycamore provides quick and convenient access to area shopping, dining, entertainment, business and more. With its charming staff, modern services and convenient amenities like free breakfast, indoor pool and complimentary high-speed internet access, the Country Inn & Suites provides guests a carefree stay. Amenities include: Fitness Center, Indoor Pool, Free Continental Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center, Guest Laundry
Geneva Motel Inn
74 guests rooms. Amenities include: Business Center; Exercise Room, Indoor Pool, Free Continental Breakfast. Pet Friendly-charges apply.
CITY:St. Charles
Quality Inn
50 rooms and conference room within walking distance of Westfield Fox Valley Mall and minutes from downtown Aurora, Paramount Theatre, SciTech Hands-On Museum, Hollywood Casino Aurora, Two Brothers Roundhouse and antique shopping
The Homestead Bed & Breakfast
Situated on beautifully landscaped grounds featuring a labyrinth and hedge maze this 1854 Italianate country cottage is reminiscent of rural Tuscan villas and is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Guests can choose from five bedrooms, with each room/bath combination offering a different level of amenities. The Homestead is ideal for small executive, group and personal retreats, a weekend getaway, an intimate wedding, commitment ceremony, renewal of marriage vows or other special events, bridal and baby showers, romantic getaways, girls weekend escapes, honeymoons, reunions with friends and family, and for business travelers. Our unique property provides the ideal setting to inspire creative minds and rejuvenate tired bodies. Group tours and catered lunches & dinners can be arranged.
Motel 6
At Motel 6, they welcome their guests 24 hours a day with a comfortable, pet friendly environment at the lowest rates of any national chain. Relax and enjoy all that Motel 6 has to offer like a free continental breakfast, kids stay for free, conference rooms for up to 10 people, and more! Amenities include: Fitness Center, Handicapped Accessible, Pet Friendly, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center, Guest Laundry
Quality Inn
The Quality Inn is ideally located one mile from historic downtown Sycamore. Your free continental breakfast is the perfect way to start your day! After along day, enjoy a refreshing swim in their indoor heated pool and a relaxing soak in the hot tub. Business travelers will welcome additional conveniences like free high-speed internet access to copy and fax services. The meeting facilities are capable of handling up to 25 people for events and banquets. Amenities include: Fitness Center, Indoor Pool with Spa/Hot Tub, Free Continental Breakfast, Handicapped Accessible, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center
Super 8 Motel - Elgin
Begin at Super 8 Motel with free continental breakfast, and 24 hour coffee. Also enjoy free local calls and remote control TV with HBO, ESPN, CNN, Discovery and The Family Channel.
Hampton Inn & Suites - St. Charles
92 guest rooms; 350 sq. ft. of meeting space. Business Center; complimentary continental breakfast; indoor pool, whirlpool & exercise room; In-room coffee makers & hair dryers; 2 phones w/voicemail; Free high-speed internet. Suites feature 32" TV & CD music systems.
CITY:St. Charles
Comfort Suites Elgin
Offering spacious suites, meeting space, hot breakfast buffet, wireless/wired internet, indoor pool and weekly guest reception. Over (9) restaurants within walking distance which makes us the ideal destination for both corporate and leisure travelers.
NIU Holmes Student Center
Located on the Northern Illinois University Campus. Everything from twin rooms to suites. Stay the night, or extended stays. They provide their guests not only a clean, quiet & friendly atmosphere, but also a variety of In-House Restaurants. Meeting room available for up to 2,200. Amenities include: Handicapped Accessible, Compact Refrigerator & Microwave in all rooms, Free Continental Breakfast, Banquet Facilities, Wi-Fi Access, Business Center, Guest Laundry
Hansen's Motel
At Hansen's Motel, we offer a wide range of king, queen and double bed rooms. We also offer you the full range of amenities that you would expect in a quality motel.
Baymont Inn & Suites
Minutes from such major attractions like Chicago Premium Outlet, the Paramount Theatre, Two Brothers Roundhouse, the Aurora Regional Fire Museum and Hollywood Casino Aurora. Wake up to free continental breakfast and a free issue of USA Today. Help yourself to free Wi-Fi Internet access while relaxing in your comfortable room. Head to the fitness center for a workout, then unwind with a swim in the heated indoor pool. This pet-friendly hotel offers free parking for all vehicles, and kids 17 and under stay free with an adult.
CITY:North Aurora


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Ska | http://streetlightmanifesto.com |
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Streetlight Manifesto was formed in 2002 by a former member of infamous ska band Catch 22, Tomas Kalnoky. Due to their affiliation with Catch 22, it did not take them long to be picked up by Victory Records. In 2003, the band released their first full-length Everything Goes Numb to critical acclaim and was able to attract fans of Kalnoky's work in Catch 22. In 2007, their album Somewhere in the Between peaked at number 154 on U.S. Billboard charts, and number 2 on Heatseeker charts. In 2010, 99 Songs of Revolution: Vol. 1 did slightly better, peaking at number 140. These numbers are indicative of the type of band Streetlight Manifesto is: Their style of music doesn't allow them much room for mainstream success, but they have nevertheless been able to build a solid fanbase in the ska punk scene.Streetlight Manifesto Tickets - The Music
Streetlight Manifesto is a ska punk band, so their music contains reggae-style guitars, gain vocals, and of course, lots and lots of horns. The band has seven members, four of which are in charge of playing the trumpet, trombone and saxophone. However, they do stand out from the rest of the ska punk pack in that Kalnoky writes with comparatively diverse influences. He claims to take inspiration from oldies eras like the '50's and '60's, and you only have to listen to a track like Everything Went Numb to tell that that the music often carries a strong world flavor to it. Streetlight Manifesto is a veteran of the New Jersey scene, from which you can infer that they likely put on a sensational live show. Make sure to grab your Streetlight Manifesto tickets.Streetlight Manifesto Discography
Album name | Release date |
99 Songs of Revolution: Volume One | 2010 |
This Concert Goes Like This | 2008 |
Somewhere in the Between | 2007 |
Keasbey Nights | 2006 |
Everything Goes Numb | 2003 |
Live at Rutgers | 2003 |
Demo | 2002 |
Top 10 Streetlight Manifesto Songs
Rank | Track Name | Play Count | Listener Count |
1 | Everything Went Numb | 35,433 | 12,693 |
2 | We Will Fall Together | 34,196 | 11,326 |
3 | A Better Place, A Better Time | 28,446 | 9,796 |
4 | That'll Be The Day | 20,839 | 8,596 |
5 | A Moment Of Silence | 22,490 | 8,478 |
6 | We Are The Few | 21,889 | 8,453 |
7 | Point/Counterpoint | 23,785 | 8,199 |
8 | A Moment Of Violence | 19,987 | 7,927 |
9 | The Saddest Song | 18,952 | 7,723 |
10 | Failing, Flailing | 18,682 | 7,552 |
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date city state venue 12/16/2012 Washington DC 9:30 Club 12/15/2012 Allentown PA Crocodile Rock 12/14/2012 Philadelphia PA Theatre of Living Arts 12/07/2012 Sacramento CA Ace of Spades 12/07/2012 Allentown PA Crocodile Rock 12/06/2012 San Francisco CA Slims 12/05/2012 Los Angeles CA Mayan Theatre 12/04/2012 San Diego CA House of Blues San Diego 12/02/2012 Santa Ana CA Yost Theater 12/01/2012 Tempe AZ Marquee Theatre 11/29/2012 San Antonio TX White Rabbit 11/27/2012 Nashville TN Exit In 11/25/2012 New York NY Best Buy Theater 11/24/2012 Boston MA Royale Boston 11/23/2012 Providence RI Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel 11/21/2012 Pontiac MI Clutch Cargo'S 11/20/2012 Chicago IL House of Blues 11/19/2012 Minneapolis MN Mill City Nights 11/17/2012 Denver CO Ogden Theatre 11/16/2012 Salt Lake City UT In The Venue 11/14/2012 Seattle WA Neptune Theatre 11/13/2012 Portland OR Hawthorne Theatre 11/08/2012 Santiago RM Teatro Caupolican 10/31/2012 Houston TX Warehouse Live 10/30/2012 New Orleans LA House of Blues New Orleans 10/28/2012 Fort Lauderdale FL Culture Room 10/26/2012 Orlando FL The Plaza Live 10/24/2012 Atlanta GA Masquerade 10/23/2012 Raleigh NC Lincoln Theatre 10/22/2012 Asheville NC The Orange Peel 10/21/2012 Norfolk VA The Norva 10/20/2012 Lancaster PA Chameleon Club 10/19/2012 Atlantic City NJ House of Blues Atlantic City 10/18/2012 Northampton MA Pearl Street Nightclub 10/17/2012 Montreal QC Metropolis 10/16/2012 Toronto ON Phoenix Concert Theatre 08/04/2012 Redmond WA Marymoor Park 08/01/2012 Milwaukee WI Marcus Amphitheater 07/31/2012 Cincinnati OH Riverbend Music Center 07/30/2012 Charlotte NC PNC Music Pavilion 07/29/2012 Saint Petersburg FL Vinoy Park 07/27/2012 Orlando FL Central Florida Fairgrounds 07/25/2012 Virginia Beach VA Farm Bureau Live at Virginia Beach 07/24/2012 Columbia MD Merriweather Post Pavilion 07/22/2012 Hartford CT Xfinity Theatre 07/21/2012 Uniondale NY Nassau Coliseum 07/20/2012 Camden NJ Susquehanna Bank Center 07/18/2012 Scranton PA Toyota Pavilion At Montage Mountain 07/14/2012 Montreal QC Parc Jean-Drapeau 07/13/2012 Holmdel NJ PNC Bank Arts Center 07/12/2012 Burgettstown PA First Niagara Pavilion 07/09/2012 Bonner Springs KS Cricket Wireless Amphitheater - KS 07/08/2012 Shakopee MN Canterbury Park 07/07/2012 Tinley Park IL First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre Streetlight Manifesto Tour Dates 2011
date city state venue 12/23/2011 Las Vegas NV House of Blues Las Vegas 12/22/2011 Pomona CA Fox Theater Pomona 12/21/2011 Bakersfield CA Bakersfield Dome 12/20/2011 Ventura CA Ventura Theatre 12/18/2011 Santa Cruz CA The Catalyst 12/17/2011 Sacramento CA Ace of Spades 12/16/2011 Portland OR Wonder Ballroom 12/15/2011 Vancouver BC Vogue Theatre 12/14/2011 Seattle WA King Cat Theater 12/13/2011 Spokane WA Knitting Factory Concert House 12/13/2011 Boise ID Knitting Factory - Boise 12/11/2011 Salt Lake City UT In The Venue 12/10/2011 Boulder CO Fox Theatre 12/09/2011 Des Moines IA Peoples Bar and Grill 12/08/2011 Minneapolis MN Cabooze 12/07/2011 Milwaukee WI The Rave/Eagles Club/Eagles Ballroom 12/06/2011 Grand Rapids MI Orbit Room 12/04/2011 Cincinnati OH Bogarts 12/03/2011 Nashville TN Marathon Music Works 12/01/2011 New Orleans LA House of Blues New Orleans 11/30/2011 Tallahassee FL Floyds Music Store 11/29/2011 Knoxville TN The Valarium 11/28/2011 Baltimore MD Rams Head Live 11/27/2011 Hartford CT Webster Theater 11/26/2011 Worcester MA Worcester Palladium 11/25/2011 Atlantic City NJ House of Blues Atlantic City 11/23/2011 Stroudsburg PA Sherman Theater 11/22/2011 Huntington NY The Paramount 11/21/2011 Lancaster PA Chameleon Club 08/14/2011 Cleveland OH House Of Blues Cleveland 08/13/2011 Columbus OH Newport Music Hall 08/12/2011 Niagara Falls NY Rapids Theatre 08/10/2011 New York NY Best Buy Theater 08/09/2011 Richmond VA The National 08/08/2011 Atlanta GA Masquerade 08/07/2011 Orlando FL House of Blues Orlando 08/06/2011 Fort Lauderdale FL Revolution Live 08/05/2011 Live Oak FL Suwannee Music Park 08/04/2011 Charlotte NC The Fillmore Charlotte 08/03/2011 Norfolk VA The Norva 08/02/2011 Sayreville NJ Starland Ballroom 08/01/2011 Philadelphia PA Electric Factory 07/30/2011 Allentown PA Crocodile Rock 07/29/2011 Poughkeepsie NY The Chance 07/28/2011 Boston MA House of Blues Boston 07/26/2011 Providence RI Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel 07/25/2011 Montreal QC Metropolis 07/23/2011 Clifton Park NY Upstate Concert Hall 07/21/2011 Pontiac MI Clutch Cargo'S 07/20/2011 Saint Louis MO The Pageant 07/19/2011 Chicago IL House of Blues 07/18/2011 Kansas City MO Beaumont Club 07/17/2011 Denver CO Ogden Theatre 07/15/2011 San Francisco CA The Regency Ballroom 07/14/2011 Los Angeles CA Club Nokia 07/13/2011 San Diego CA House of Blues San Diego 07/12/2011 Anaheim CA City National Grove of Anaheim 07/10/2011 Tempe AZ Marquee Theatre 07/08/2011 Dallas TX House of Blues Dallas 07/06/2011 Houston TX Warehouse Live 04/29/2011 East Rutherford NJ MetLife Stadium 03/13/2011 Washington DC 9:30 Club 03/11/2011 Jacksonville FL Freebird Live 03/10/2011 Orlando FL Venue 578 03/09/2011 Fort Lauderdale FL Culture Room 03/08/2011 Saint Petersburg FL State Theatre 03/06/2011 Nashville TN Exit In 03/03/2011 Tulsa OK The Marquee 03/02/2011 Oklahoma City OK Diamond Ballroom 02/27/2011 Pomona CA The Glass House 02/25/2011 Santa Cruz CA The Catalyst 02/21/2011 Edmonton AB The Starlite Room 02/19/2011 Winnipeg MB West End Cultural Centre 02/18/2011 Minneapolis MN Triple Rock Social Club 02/18/2011 Minneapolis MN Triple Rock Social Club 02/16/2011 Sauget IL Pops 02/14/2011 Grand Rapids MI The Intersection 02/13/2011 Cleveland OH Peabodys Downunder 02/12/2011 Rochester NY Water Street Music Hall 02/10/2011 Clifton Park NY Upstate Concert Hall Streetlight Manifesto Tour Dates 2010
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Thanks for the update .
Unfortunately this update does not fix the problem: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17897
Will do Don't forget you can easily roll your own packages with the auto-xorg-git script.
I often just make one single source package which is then copied over and built in the xorg-edgers PPA and my own PPA, hardy and intrepid.Also, this appears to be no more needed on intrepid:
Thanks for the update .
Unfortunately this update does not fix the problem: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17897
OK, the fdo bug #17897 - Dithering problem on MacBook Pro is properly fixed.
Can you update again your packages to latest commit 435cf7da68186f2601c4b888296117d4f652c625 please .
I'd like that other Ubuntu users can try the updated git version and I eventually request to update the intrepid version to this snapshot, if we are still in time.
Thanks again for all your work improving X experience for Ubuntu users.
I am interested in enabling 3D feature on my laptop, which is T42 (RV350 Ati mobility 9600). In step 2.a, I failed to extract libdrm2 source files with patches. Can anybody help me how I can resolve this problem?
xxx$ apt-get source libdrm2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Need to get 1458kB of source archives.
Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main libdrm 2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d-0ubuntu0tormod1 (tar) [1452kB]
Get:2 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main libdrm 2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d-0ubuntu0tormod1 (diff) [5033B]
Get:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main libdrm 2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d-0ubuntu0tormod1 (dsc) [1113B]
Fetched 1458kB in 1s (1092kB/s)
gpg: Signature made Tue 14 Oct 2008 01:50:39 PM CDT using DSA key ID BAF41D0C
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
dpkg-source: extracting libdrm in libdrm-2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d
dpkg-source: unpacking libdrm_2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d.orig.tar.gz
dpkg-source: applying ./libdrm_2.4.0~git20081014.d9c2f65d-0ubuntu0tormod1.diff.gz
3D is enabled by default for these cards, since many years ago. If it doesn't work in a standard Ubuntu installation, please file a bug.
That looks fine. What's the problem?In step 2.a, I failed to extract libdrm2 source files with patches. Can anybody help me how I can resolve this problem?
Recently, I've installed Kubuntu 8.10, which comes with the latest radeon enabled by default. Have to say that it works quite good in 2D and Video playback.
Desktop effects also work quite smoothly, until there is a need to play Video via xv, or to run a 3D-app, but that's another story.
There are some glitches in firefox 3, however.. But I'm not sure if this is connected to "radeon" or to "gtk-qt-engine" (at least, I didn't have these anomalies, when used Catalyst 8.9 in Hardy, and ClearLooks GTK theme).
Can somebody point me where to look about these glitches?
In particular, there is broken rendering of "Tabs", and also some "controls" inside a page (such as [hr], [radiobuttons], [checkboxes]).
That is gtk-qt-engines fault... At least I think it is Simple solution I'm using right now is this theme :
It has some other problems like for example not using oxygen style for drop down menus but no glitches with normal webbrowsing.
Anyway there is a gossip that FF 3.1 will have a Qt native support so problems like that may be solved soon
BTW do you get some small tearing with 3d effects ?
Last edited by val-gaav; 11-05-2008 at 05:52 AM.
I get tearing from time to time while for example draging windows (transparency on) or with alt+tab effects. tried XAA, EXA, and different kwin settings and it's always the same.
I'm using rs690 radeon x1200 which support is quite recent so that may be the problem.
BTW videos work ok for me with xv and with composing on. Try setting up EXA in xorg.conf instead of default XAA.
Tormod, current packages for Hardy miss 'XInput.h'. That header is in Hardy original 'x11proto-input-dev' package, later that header was moved to 'libxi-dev' as i see, but that package was not also updated for Hardy.


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This is the year when the Houston Texans storm the stadiums with their awesome team! No one will be able to deny their greatness, so you need to be ready to show off your pride for the best team in the NFL. With the Houston Texans Bubble Screen II T-shirt, you'll state your passion for Texans football from the moment you walk in a room. With the bold team name and establishment date printed on the front, this shirt says you're willing to go all the way for your Houston players. When the kickoff comes, you'll be ready for number one fan status with this tee!
- 90% Cotton/10% Polyester
- Heathered fabric
- Imported
- Officially licensed NFL product
- Rib-knit collar
- Screen print graphics
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