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I mean heat = heat.
I will differ from the conventional wisdom and agree that the pizza doesn't care where the heat comes from. It does care where it is applied, however, and this is what makes the type of oven like you posted fall short. You will never get balanced heat from that, even though it claims an ambient temp that is adequate. Neapolitan pies do not rely on ambient temps, WFOs are designed to exploit IR heat which is not easy to replicate in an electric deck type oven.
It cares where it IS, not what creates it.
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my oven is the largest one at the bottom of the page. I love it for Ny or coal style pizzas, but to do a neapolitan bake I still prefer my home oven on the cleaning cycle. My best pies have come out of a WFO, or a CFO, however. http://www.gourmetpizzaexpress.com/products.html

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This is a high quality stove with the advantage of…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $115 USD on sale
This is a high quality stove with the advantage of having simmer functionality. It's a liquid fuel stove with MSR's simplicity and reliability, so you can count on it to fire up even at the lowest temperatures. Keep in mind, it's designed to be a gourmet backpacking stove, so it's substantially larger, heavier, and bulkier than nearly all of MSR's other backpacking stoves.
- Reliable in the coldest temperatures
- Simmer ability
- Quality construction
- Easy to use and set up
- Stable pot stand (easily supports a 9" frying pan)
- Multi-fuel
- Easy maintenance
- Heavy/bulky
- Loud
- Consumes fuel quickly on high
- Pump cannot be used with other MSR liquid fuel stoves
- Pot sits too high above the flame
I bought the MSR DragonFly when my partner and I took an adult and 2 kids on their first backpacking trip. In order to give them a memorable, fun, first time backpacking experience, we opted to base camp and prepare gourmet backcountry meals we'd never dream of cooking for just the 2 of us.
The stove was ideal for the specific purpose I bought it. Keep in mind, it's larger than most backpacking stoves, meaning it's bulky and heavy for anything other than base camping with a group. The upside is that it's every bit as reliable as my MSR WhisperLite with the added benefit of flame control. It will also fire up in the coldest temperatures and field maintenance is a breeze.
The biggest issues I have with this stove are:
- on high it's as loud as a jet and burns through fuel at an alarming rate,
- the pot sits too high above the flame (boiling a pot of water takes at least 5 minutes)
- the pump is not interchangeable with other MSR liquid fuel stoves.
The things I love about this stove are:
- it's extremely stable,
- high quality construction,
- easy to use,
- it simmers, it simmers, it simmers!!!
- reliable in any temperature,
- can be used with multiple fuels — white gas, diesel, kerosene.
If you're looking for a great basecamp stove for groups of 4 or more, this is it. It's great for backcountry gourmet cooking, frying, and baking when you don't mind carrying some extra weight or adding extra bulk to your pack.
I've been using this stove for about a decade since…
Price Paid: I can no longer remember
I've been using this stove for about a decade since a Coleman Peak1 died on a trip. These stoves really do simmer (stunning, from MSR). They can also really crank up, although I rarely run it that way so as to conserve fuel. The small bottle will last me 5 dinners and 5 breakfasts (barely).
Other reviewers have mentioned the noise, but these stoves are not as loud as other MSRs I've experienced.
Only real durability problem was the burner popped off the base one time. Stove still worked for the trip, and MSR fixed for free. Other than that, in a decade I've had to replace only one O-ring (and the pump when TSA confiscated the entire fuel bottle/pump, which I now always pack separately).
A little awkward to pack, but not too bad. After a decade, my windscreen has finally bitten the dust (aluminum foil can only be bent and re-bent so many times), but I got years more use from it than I anticipated.
I should add, my wife does not like this stove because she does not like pumping it up--she wants a stove to just turn on. But if you prefer white gas (as I do), you will be very happy with this stove.
The Dragonfly is THE best simmering multi-fuel stove…
Price Paid: $98 at EMS, 1994
The Dragonfly is THE best simmering multi-fuel stove I've ever used. You can simmer so low that you can actually bake with it, which is one of the big reasons I got it. Baked Bisquick biscuits W/ jelly inside is great on a cold winter evening.
Howsomever... nice as it is I had to file notches on the top of the pot rests/legs to keep my pot from slipping. And in all the years since its introduction MSR has not seen fit to put no-slip notches on the wire pot supports. Strange.
Also, since I bought my Dragonfly MSR has upgraded the pump assembly so I bought the new version. Hate to have a pump failure at -10 F!
Now this sucker is the heaviest stove MSR makes, so it only goes with me in winter. But it is dead reliable, as a winter stove should be. I bought the Lexan plastic base for it to keep in from sinking into the snow of my stomped out kitchen.
Had my DragonFly for almost eight years now and it's…
Had my DragonFly for almost eight years now and it's simply amazing. It's very easy to use, stores very nicely in my MSR Alpine cookset and it simmers very well. Easy to maintain and disassemble and although I've never used anything but white gas, it's never clogged or has failed to start.
The reason I give it 4 stars is because of the plastic pump. Not only does it feel fragile but I've already broken one of them during routine use.
With that being said, MSR was very quick to replace my pump with a new unit with no hassles at all. They did mention that their earlier models experienced this problem. I've been using my new pump for over three years and to their credit, it hasn't failed since.
With that being said, I do have another stove which I use for cold weather use just in case. And that's the Optimus Nova... which is made of aluminum throughout.
I had my DragonFly since the month it was released.
Price Paid: $110
I had my DragonFly since the month it was released. Have had good luck with stove in the cooking department. Do not like the fact that the stove MUST use the windscreen in any area where there is any kind of wind. Also the pumps are poor.
On my third and if this one doesn't hold up the stove goes back to MSR. The newer pump looks better, but still doesn't look like it will last. I use my stove 10-15 days a year. You would think the pumps would hold up better. This is the third design for the pump that I know of. What does that tell you about the pumps.
Again nice simmering stove. Hot when on full. Loud, but good. Just realize that the bad points are the pumps, can't run without windscreen when the wind blows, and is really loud.
This is the bit of kit you use when you cannot afford…
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $170
This is the bit of kit you use when you cannot afford for anything to go wrong! It is highly reliable and simple to use even when your brain is zonked out from the fatigue of climbing all day and altitude.
- Reliability & simplicity
- Widely spaced legs = no spills
- Robust
- Folds up small
- Aluminium wind shield
I have used this stove on many occasions and from sea level up to 5,500 metres. It has worked beautifully for hours on end and never let me down.
This item is critical above the tree line or on occasions when one is camping and circumstances do not allow open fires. Making breakfast for a team of 8 guys and then melting heaps of snow is a cinch!
The aluminium windshield is lightweight but it can get knocked around by windgusts. So when I am not majorly concerned about weight I carry a lightweight foldable 10 panel stainless steel shield that I got on eBay.
As we all know, seeing your meal fall onto the ground after mucking around to get it ready can be a real bummer. Unlike other stoves, I have never had a spill with the Dragonfly and really do appreciate how widely spaced the legs are and the simple way that they lock open.
I just connect the bottle with its integrated pump to the stove, pump it up, and then let a small amount of fuel into the bowl. Lighting it can sometimes be tricky in strong winds, but hey, that applies to the majority of stoves anyway. On those occasions I just let more fuel in and watch it flare up and burn!!
I have the three different sized fuel bottles that I use depending on how high and how long I am away for. I find that because I can adjust the flame I can save on fuel and I have yet to run out of fuel on a trip.
The instructions are easy to follow for first timers and I just love the ability to regulate the flame. High for meting snow and low for heating foods without burning.
I believe that a stove is esential for winter activities. Do not try to scrimp on this bit of kit as you could end up in a world of hurt. The MSR Dragonfly is bombproof, highly reliable, and uses whatever fuel you have at hand.
I have owned the MSR Whisperlite International stove…
I have owned the MSR Whisperlite International stove for 7 years without any problems at all. I bought the Dragonfly because I wanted finer control for simmer, the Whisperlite really doesn't do that well, it's pretty much either on or off. The only exception to this is if it's a completely still without any wind, then, you maybe able to reduce the flame to slightly above a simmer without it conking out.
Here is my review of the Dragonfly, within the past week I have owned it:
The Dragonfly is larger than the Whisperlite that's for sure, getting it and the fuel pump into my 2L MSR pot kit is pretty challenging.
Noise wise it's not really that bad! The Whisperlite runs on liquid fuel too and still makes a bit of a roar when going full pelt. The Dragonfly is nothing like some have described i.e. a jet warming up or being deafening. You certainly know it's on, but I can still have a conversation with others around me. Until they make a silent liquid stove there will always be people complaining; Children in campgrounds are much worse LOL.
Good Points:
- The Dragonfly is very good at getting hot!
- It seems very economical on fuel (I use white gas/shellite exclusively) on par with the Whisperlite I'd say
- Seems strong in construction
- Simmer function is very good and easy to control — Major bonus for anything other than boiling water!
- It is fast to get up to operating temperature i.e. quick from priming to full flame, in my experience it is quicker than the Whisperlite
- Wind doesn't seem to bother the flame too much (compared to the Whisperlite which really doesn't like any breeze at all) it kept going strong even with breezes going through it
- I actually like the sound of it! Scares those other pussies around me using canister stoves :P
- The underneath side of the stove is only warm to touch after 10 mins running at full pelt! this is great if you need to put it down somewhere that doesn't like too much heat
- It takes many fuel types. As I said earlier, I use Shellite exclusively, but to have other options is a good thing if I'm in an area that only had diesel, unleaded fuel or kerosene.
Bad Points:
- Sure it's a little louder than the Whisperlite International but it's not that bad considering the whole package
- I really don't like how the fuel pump for the Dragonfly can not be interchanged with the other MSR fuel pumps... If this fuel pump breaks then I can't just use the Whisperlite International pump :(.
- There is a number of solder points on the fuel tap tube attached to the burner. I think this could be a point for metal fatigue, particularly over time. This wouldn't be good i.e. EXPLOSION!
So far in my week of owning this stove I am very happy with this purchase and have even bought one for my friend for xmas :)
I absolutely love this stove. I had been looking…
I absolutely love this stove. I had been looking for a good backpacking stove for quite a while, but I didn't want to spend a fortune to get one. I had been using an old, reliable Coleman stove that uses a small propane tank, but it was large and heavy for backpacking.
Then, I came across this stove being sold in a box of other miscellaneous camping gear at a police auction. I bought it on name alone, knowing MSR to be a great brand for backpacking equipment, especially stoves.
When I won the whole lot of equipment for only about $25, I was stoked, and just hoping that this stove worked. (It turned out that some of the other equipment in the box of gear was also pretty good, but I was bidding solely based on this stove).
I got it home, opened it up, and was dissappointed to realize I need to get a canister and fuel, so I drove immediately to the store and purchased it, and got it all ready. I spent a few minutes looking online to find this model and looking for instructions to make sure I used it properly. I set it up, lit it, and was amazed at the quality of this product. It blew my old Coleman stove out of the water.
Like others have said, it is a bit loud, but I love that. It means I know it is working. Plus, the sound really is like a jet engine, which is a pretty sweet sound. It is very easy to adjust the flame height to get that perfect simmer, although I mostly just turn it up full blast to boil water, which is amazingly fast.
With the amount of heat and sound coming from this small unit, I always expect the canister to be emptied quickly, but I am always amazed at how much extra fuel I am lugging home from the backcountry.
This unit is not the smallest or lightest on the market, but it is very sturdy, and small enough for me. Plus, it is powerful and reliable enough to be the only stove taken on a four day trip for four men. We still ended up only using about 1/2 a tank of fuel.
Fantastic stove!
I have been mountaineering/backpacking since I was…
Price Paid: $129.99
I have been mountaineering/backpacking since I was 6 years old. I am now 15. I had been using the MSR Whisperlite for two years. I bought the Dragonfly on the recommendation of a friend.
I love the simmering capability. The flame can be adjusted so low I actually baked a pizza on it on Pikes Peak. Only drawbacks are the noise and size.
Overall I am very pleased with this stove. Thanks MSR.
A great, reliable, powerful stove. Sure, it is a little…
A great, reliable, powerful stove. Sure, it is a little loud, and not the lightest, but for me it is worth carrying on a long trip just because of the convenience.
I also found that is uses very little fuel compared to what I would expect. I went on a trip with 2 full bottles, wanting to be safe, and came back with 1 and a half after 6 days or so just boiling water.
One remarkable thing about the Dragonfly is that the design has been almost the same for over 15 years, so for my old Dragonfly I can still go to the store and buy another fuel pump the day before I am supposed to leave because my old one breaks in a test. MSR is great.
Great stove! Have used it dozens of times and it has…
Price Paid: $85
Great stove! Have used it dozens of times and it has performed well every time. The only drawbacks are the size and noise. This thing sounds like a jet engine taking off. You can wake up an entire campsite cooking hot chocolate late at night.
It's relatively small and folds up well, but the fuel line protrudes a little. Would be great if it folded also, and I could fit it in my cooking pot.
I enjoy this stove over the MSR Simmerlight because…
Price Paid: $120
I enjoy this stove over the MSR Simmerlight because of the easy flame control and large base. It is easy to balance 4 and 6 qt. pots. One complaint is that the flame would occasionally go out if the wind picked up. Other than that I had no problems on my last 12 days in the Boundary Waters.
Very nice stove, only complaint is you must use the…
Price Paid: $89.99
Very nice stove, only complaint is you must use the wind blocker when there is only a little breeze.
This is a reliable stove that will burn more like…
Price Paid: CDN $135
This is a reliable stove that will burn more like an afterburner or casting furnace. It is a well made stove. My only two complaints are minor.
This stove is not exactly quiet. It's hard to converse when it's cooking for you; however, that being said it does cook fast. The other problem is the o-ring that seals the fit for the brass to bottle insert wears fairly quickly, so make sure you have a few in your repair kit--one should always have an equipment repair kit. It will last a little longer if you spit on the brass or lubricate it will petroleum jelly.
But as stated earlier, this is a reliable, get started anywhere, cook what ever you want it to stove. I can tolerate noise for hot food. The o-ring issue is no big deal unless you run out of them in the field.
I have run this stove all over for more than 6 years…
Price Paid: $125
I have run this stove all over for more than 6 years without significant issue. With proper maint it has run just about every flammable liquid I could get my grubby little mitts on. I use it in concert with a PocketRocket to teach Boy Scouts and have really only run into one issue. The fuel filter at the end of the intake line popped off into the bottom of the fuel container (it doesn't float). I had to dump the fuel into another container (read several paper cups) and fish it out then dump the fuel back in. Not too bad for all the abuse I've put it through.
As with some others, serrations on the pot rests would have been nice, but are easily manufactured after-market with a handy dandy Leatherman file.
I have had this stove since 1998. It has loads of…
Price Paid: $89
I have had this stove since 1998. It has loads of heating power and it sounds like a loud jet taking off at close range. It also has the capacity to simmer, which is a wonderful feature if you are cooking foods rather than heating water.
Care and feeding: the DragonFly likes white gas/ naptha best. It will also burn unleaded gasoline, unleaded gasoline with 2 stroke mix, diesel fuel, kerosene, mineral spirits/ stoddard solvent, av gas, jet fuel and variants of all of these. However, if you will be using fuels other than white gas be forewarned that you must be very careful with the amount of pressure that you pump into the fuel bottle (not included).
Also be forewarned that you will clog the fuel system if you use kerosene and diesel. A clogged fuel system leads to flameouts, sooty buildup on the bottom of your pots and other problems. If you must use other fuels bring along some starter paste and some alcohol to clean the fuel filter with.
I am a novice camper; I wanted a small stove for boiling…
Price Paid: $80
I am a novice camper; I wanted a small stove for boiling water and similar basic campground cooking activities. My wife has an ancient Optimus that looks too tiny for even a small cooking pot, so I was attracted to the wide, wire pot supports of the Dragonfly.
Learning to start the Dragonfly requires one or two "test runs" in your backyard, before venturing off to camp; but once you get the hang of it, it's a snap. As other reviewers have said, the almost infinite flame adjustment is terrific, and it can really heat a pot of water or coffeepot fast. It IS noisy at high flame but just hisses at lower settings. My only trepidation with this stove is the small "fireball" to prime the flame cup. If you are trying to make coffee in a tent vestibule, this could represent a risk. I haven't had the problem yet, but I am extra watchful. I wish this stove had an instant-on, to avoid that "fireball". So as not to freak anyone out, the "fireball" is usually the size of a golfball and never larger than the size of, say, a baseball, so it's not too big of a risk.
Otherwise, I love the stove and can fit it into a 1.5 qt farberware pot I use for everything from coffee in the AM to MREs in the evening. Get one!
Best allround multi-fuel stove around if space and…
Price Paid: USD 99
Best allround multi-fuel stove around if space and weight isn't your primary concerns. Flame control is unparalled for this type of stove, fairly easy to get going (once you have the hang of it) and technically very robust. Burns with a fair amount of noise, but not nearly as much of an issue as what some make it out to be. Fuel costs kept low if you are a frequent camper and will operate on nearly anything liquid that's flammable - go India, Nepal, South America, Africa... Anywhere. Anytime. Proper cooking.
My primary stove for five years. I leave the windscreen…
Price Paid: $109
My primary stove for five years. I leave the windscreen at home and use the canoe instead. Has never failed or ever clogged despite never having cleaned it. It's loud at full burn, but if you're being conservative, you don't need that much heat anyway. Its stability with larger pots is unsurpassed. In my opinion, the best stove available.
I have owned this stove for one year. It has been…
Price Paid: $124.99 CND
I have owned this stove for one year. It has been used about ten times mostly in winter conditions.
Durability - Not Rated
There has been no problems with the stove to date. I will use it for another year before giving a durability rating.
Size and Weight - 5 Stars
No problem packing this stove.
Ease of Setup - 5 Stars
Ready to go in a few minutes
Uses Different Fuels - 5 Stars
I stick with white gas because it is cleaner burning.
Pot Base - 5 Stars
It has a large stable base for your cooking pleasure.
Heat Output - 5 Stars
Good heat output even in extreme winter conditions.
I enjoy using this stove on my backcountry snowshoeing trips.
I have used this stove over fifty times in the last…
Price Paid: $100
I have used this stove over fifty times in the last couple of years. It boils water extremely fast and turns down as low as a match flame for simmering. It has been nothing but rock solid. Does not ever clog up like other stoves I have had in the past. Only downside is it is a little loud at full blast, but I wouldn't trade it for any other stove.
I have used my stove once in the past month. I have…
Price Paid: $119.95
I have used my stove once in the past month. I have been busy, but I used it at about 9000 ft. and I was very impressed with the heat that it put out and how fast it boiled water. The best feature about the Dragonfly is that it has an adjustable flame!! You can keep your water warm for dishes or you can adjust it it and boil very quickly, four minutes. I love my DragonFly!
Only downfall is that at full flame it is fairly noisy!! It burns pretty much any fuel you can get a hold of, so that is also another a bonus!
Very good stove that simmers well, although it is…
Price Paid: $150
Very good stove that simmers well, although it is extremely loud. The plastic pump is somewhat fragile so it would be best to not be to rough with it. It's also a rather cumbersome stove.
A very good piece of kit. It is easily adjustable…
Price Paid: £80
A very good piece of kit. It is easily adjustable from a gentle simmer to a blow torch that sounds like a jet taking off! It burns almost anything and it is easy to use. The pot support is big and stable which is why I chose this rather than the MSR XGK.
This is an awesome stove. My buddy and I both have…
Price Paid: 136 CND
This is an awesome stove. My buddy and I both have one; he has one of the older ones with the old pump he has had his for five years and it is still going strong. We find that the stove is very good on fuel and is very hot. I have never had it go out in wind or snow, or rain. The stove is light and still has one of the best pot bases that I have come by. The simmer feature is really nice, helps not to burn food..
I would tell anyone any day of the week to get this stove
Burns any kind if flammable liquid, which is nice…
Source: bought via a "pro deal"
Price Paid: $50
Burns any kind if flammable liquid, which is nice for out of country hiking.
- Multi liquid fuel
- Great stable cook area
- Loud when cooking
Great product by MSR. Very nice that it can burn any kind of flammable liquid. Also can be rebuilt in the woods if need be.
Boils water a little slow compared to other stoves, but gets the job done. Brings a liter of water to a roiling boil in just over 4mins. Has a great side cooking area support.
Used it couple weeks ago with three people camping and cooked everything from bacon to pancakes. Would highly recommend to anybody.
It works great, heats up very quick and easy to maintain.
Source: bought it new
Price Paid: $129
It works great, heats up very quick and easy to maintain. Downfalls fuel line is little short and it's very loud.
- Easy to maintain
- Heats up quick
- Compact
- Short fuel line
- Very loud
I have had this for years and use it all year round and I have never had any problems with this stove.
Amazing stoves — sturdy, reliable, easy to fix problems…
Source: bought it new
Amazing stoves — sturdy, reliable, easy to fix problems in the field.
- durable
- field reparable
- burns multiple fuels
- easy to simmer
- a bit bulkier than some other stoves
- can be ridiculously loud
- priming can be annoying
Amazing stoves. Traveled through South America with my girlfriend with the DragonFly. Ran it with diesel fuel on a 5-day trip when we forgot to gas up and couldn't find anything else. Clogged up a few times but was easy to clean and worked fine.
Have this stove, Whisperlite, and Whisperlite International and there is a reason the design hasn't changed in over a decade.
Only negatives were this stove was a bit too big to fit in our travel pot, and seriously in a quiet setting it can sound like a jet taking off— when we were in some camp sites we got looks - worth the simple simmer function, However, as we like to cook gourmet in the backcountry (with the Whisperlights you need to decrease the cannister pressure to make it simmer which is tricky, and you have to pump the pressure back up if you want to crank it up which is dangerous unless you turn the stove off (annoying).
They're all amazing though, and you can pick them up used for like 30 bucks (I have found two in thrift stores with parts missing, which MSR either supplied free, or I paid a few bucks to bring up to functioning). I have also experienced amazing customer service with MSR. They have sent me free shaker jets multiple times, and you can buy parts separate for super cheap when they break or you lose them (they may seem slightly pricey up front, but their repair-ability and easily available parts will pay off quick).
this is the best multi-fuel stove, period. i have…
Price Paid: US $110
this is the best multi-fuel stove, period. i have had mine for 6 years and did many hiking trips with it, as well as using it with car camping and day trips.
using unleaded gasoline has finally caught up with the fuel line and the filter needs replacement. but other than that (and one o-ring replacement) this beauty is bomber. if you use it a lot it pays for itself in fuel savings and it gives you the option of going just about anywhere in the world knowing that you will have fuel. for a party of 3 the 600ml fuel bottle should last about 4 or 5 days.
noise is a given if you go full blast to boil water, but imho it's not con; just a given. small price to pay for the overall performance of the stove. and when it simmers the noise level is fairly low.
I like this stove mostly because of the wide stand…
Price Paid: $80 New on ebay
I like this stove mostly because of the wide stand to hold pots and its simmer capability. I have noticed with the simmer capability, that I tend to save fuel when compared to my Whisperlite International.
For example, after you are done heating water, to save fuel you can turn the Dragonfly way down to just a teeny weeny flame until you need it again. With the Whisperlite you have to turn the stove off or the stove continues to burn fuel at max output.
That being said, the amount of fuel consumed by the Whisperlite compared to the Dragonfly is probably miniscule for most people. Also, I wouldn't give up my Whisperlite because of its ruggedness and ability to tear down.
On max output, the Dragonfly is a bit noisy, but heats water quickly.,.then you turn the flame waaaay down and it is quiet again... but... when you need heat...crank it back up!
A number of people knock MSR's plastic pumps but I have never had a problem.
I give this stove 5 stars!
Hard to find any problems with this stove. We took…
Price Paid: $139
Hard to find any problems with this stove.
We took this to Philmont over a 70 mile backpacking trip at about 8000 ft. not any real complants. worked fine for a crew of 9, I usually use the MSR Pocket Rocket at lower altitude for solo cooking.
I'm not sure if I would use this for solo cooking, just because of the extra weight & space.
My new DragonFly had lots of problems with blockages…
My new DragonFly had lots of problems with blockages and poor performance from the outset on the AT. After using an XGK for 15 years I found this poor quality really annoying. I sent it back to MSR who serviced it and replaced seals before sending it back.
It's still the best stove for long term walking as any fuel will do if you can't get white gas. Nothing funnier than filling your fuel bottle at a gas station and paying your 65c.
We generally use a liter of white gas for two people for 8-10 days. Boiling water for breakfast and dinner every day, that's 8 cups of water per day.
Great stove. Works at the top of the mountain as well…
Price Paid: $89
Great stove. Works at the top of the mountain as well as the bottom. Cold weather has no effect on it.
A little loud but I like the ability to simmer and not just boil water.
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to prove invalidity (via prior art) of Apple's design patents.
I. Sci-Fi Props Not Valid for Design Patent Invalidation
Apple is claiming that a series of design patents on the iPad and iPhone --
U.S. Design Patent No. D618,677
, and
-- grant it exclusive rights to produce rectangular (with-rounded edges) touchscreen devices with a "minimalist" number of buttons. Note, the patents themselves have little text, so much of the validity debate revolves around the validity/invalidity of Apple's interpretation of ubiquitous design rights, which is not explicitly stated in the patents.
Samsung has questioned Apple's
rights to "patent shapes"
. But it's unclear whether Samsung's legal team will be capable of invalidating Apple's patents.
The iPad looks very similar to designs seen in the movie
2001: A Space Odyssey
and the fan-favorite science fiction series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
. Both fictional visual depiction predated Apple's 2004 patent by over a decade.
2001: A Space Odyssey "tablets" [Image Source: Stanley Kubrick/MGM]
Star Trek tablets [Image Source: Gene Roddenberry/Paramount]
Judge Koh said pre-existing fictional works were not valid pieces of evidence to use in proving invalidity of design patents.
Sources reporting on the decision did not mention
the judge considered this invalid. One clear implication is that if the decision is upheld it essentially gives commercials firms open season to make real-life devices based on fictional products. For example, if a company made the iconic "golden snitch" of the
Harry Potter
universe, it could repatent the existing visual depiction under a new design patent and J.K. Rowling could not invalidate that patent.
II. Alternate Routes to Escaping Apple's Design Claims
Judge Koh did allow Samsung to use at least two real-world prototype or commercial design that could be integral in proving prior art.
The first allowed display is a Hewlett-Packard Comp. (HPQ) tablet -- the Compaq TC1000 -- which debuted in 2002, two years before the iPad patent. That tablet had a minimalist design, like the iPad's.
The Compaq TC-1000 (2002) [Image Source: TC-OneThousand.com]
Also allowed was photographs of Roger Fidler tablet prototype which he produced for media company Knight-Ridder.
The iPad (2010, left) versus the Knight-Ridder prototype (1994, right)
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Without its phone-space prior art (which Judge Koh banned for being "too late") and without the sci-fi prior art, Samsung faces a tougher struggle as it must rely more heavily on the handful of allowed possible prior art examples.
There's some hope that Apple may win on validity and evidence exclusion, but still lose on design infringement. To win on design infringement, the jury must accept Apple's argument that the images in its design patent allow it to patent a certain shape of electronic device.
In theory, Samsung's lawyers could acknowledge the validity of Apple's design patent, be unable to show the full history of their device development, but still argue their device did not infringe based on other factors.
For example, it could argue that it was invalid to patent shapes. If it can convince the jury, all it has to do to avoid design infringement is to show that
there's substantial visual differences
between the iPad and Galaxy Tab and between the iPhone and Galaxy Nexus (or other phones in question). Again, whether the design differences are sufficient to escape infringement is a subjective argument, but when viewed clearly (e.g. at a distance where you can distinguish features) Apple and Samsung's products are easily distinguished.
And it's important to remember that design is just one part of the two company's infringement claims.
III. Editorial: The Big Picture and Why If Either Side Wins, You Lose
Samsung has patented standards technologies, and is legally obligated to license Apple those patents
at a "fair" rate
, but is trying to shirk those responsibilities and license them at an inflated rate.
And Apple is also suing Samsung on technology patents that cover a number of
trivial graphical features
There's great danger in terms of future precedent if either side wins on any of its major claims. If Apple's design claims are upheld, it offers a slippery slope by which companies can patent certain shapes in certain sectors and gain an artificial government-enforced monopoly. If Apple's technology claims are upheld, there could be a rash of patenting and key sectors of the economy like websites (which share common algorithms and visual features) and software (which again are programmatically similar and visually similar) could be destroyed, with only a few patent-rich survivors left standing.
And if Samsung's technology claims were validated to the extent it wants them to be, the concept of affordable licensing of standards patents would be lost. This, too, is an undesirable outcome.
Depending on who wins, tech standards could be badly damaged or the internet/software (e.g. games) market could be destroyed, based on the fact that both companies' objective seemingly rely on abuse of the intellectual property system. [Image Source: BuyPoe]
The case is very significant as Apple and Samsung are two of the biggest companies in the world, so this in a sense is a very precedent-setting case.
In other words if either side achieves total victory, consumers essentially lose. Conversely, the only way consumers win is if both sides lose, at least to some extent.
Thus this is an important case to watch very carefully as the two sides battle in court, as the outcome could effect your choice of future products, perhaps well beyond the smartphone space, even.
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Here Comes the Squirtle Squad is the tenth episode of the Pokémon anime series, except in the United States, after Battle Aboard the St. Anne was broadcast as the first episode. The episode was first broadcast in Japan on June 7, 1997 and in the United States on September 23, 1998.
The episode starts with a small recap of Ash catching Bulbasaur and Charmander. Ash was feeling very confident and he hummed the Red/Blue theme as he, Misty, and Brock walked down the road.
They all fall into a pit and immediatly think Team Rocket dug it. But they didn't, a group of sunglasses-wearing Squirtles dug it. They stare at Ash and his friends and laugh. Pikachu used ThunderShock, but one of the Squirtles (most likely the leader) defended the other Squirtles.
A battle started, Pikachu aganist the Squirtle that was the leader. Suddenly, sirens started going off and the Squirtles grabbed their hurt friend and ran off. Officer Jenny quickly appeared and Ash thought he had met her before. Officer Jenny told him that all of the Officer Jennys were related, they all look alike, and they are all named Jenny.
At the police station, Officer Jenny explained that the group of Squirtle they met call themselves "The Squirtle Squad". The Squirtle Squad were abanoned by their trainers and they pull pranks on people.
A little ways away, Team Rocket was watching Ash and his friends.Jessie was focused on catching Pikachu, but James and Meowth only wanted to get some food, making Jessie hit them. Soon Jessie realized that she was getting hungry too and pulled out a picnic basket, which cheered James and Meowth up.
They noticed that the Squirtle Squad was watching them. The Squirtle Squad's leader told them to hand over their food or else. Jessie and James said no and walked over to battle them. They quickly fell into a pit that the squad had dug.
Later, the squad was happily eating Team Rocket's food, with them tied to a tree. Jessie asked them to help them capture Pikachu, but they said no, because they said humans couldn't be trusted. Meowth thought of an idea and he explained to the squad that Jessie and James were owned by him. James got mad Meowth said to be quiet that he will explain later. Meowth said that Jessie and James were his pets and started kicked James for speaking. The Squirtle Squad bought this and untied Meowth. They let him join them at eating the food, with Jessie and James still tied up.Far away, Misty was fishing while Ash and Brock were sitting by the river. A member of the Squirtle Squad appeared and soaked them all with Water Gun. Pikachu tried to use ThunderShock on it, but only shocked Ash, Misty, and Brock.
Ash was sick of all of this and confronted the Squirtle when it jumped out of the water. Pikachu started to attack, but the Squirtle withdrew into its shell and spun, knocking Pikachu into the water. And it was at the worst possible time, a Goldeen was in the water.
Ash yelled to Pikachu to swim to shore, but Pikachu couldn't swim faster than the Goldeen. Pikachu got hurt by Goldeen's horn and knocked out of the water. Ash ran to help, but three lassos came out, tieing up Ash, Misty, and Brock. Running around them, the Squirtle Squad tightened the ropes. Then Meowth came out of hiding.
Later, Ash, Misty, and Brock were tied up in a cave with Pikachu trapped in a cage nearby. Meowth said that he was in charge and Ash tried to convince the Squirtle Squad not to listen to Meowth, but Meowth used a Scratch attack on his face and asked the squad who would they believe, a human or a Pokémon?
Brock saw that Pikachu was badly hurt and that they would need Super Potion to heal it. Ash asked the squad if he could be let go to get some medicine for Pikachu. They refused. Ash begged and even cried to convince them. They decided that only Ash would be let go to get medicine. They warned him, translated by Meowth, that if he didn't get back by noon tommorow, Misty would get her hair dyed purple. Misty got mad at Meowth and Ash promised that he would be back by then.
Ash raced towards town and he tripped on a rock. The image of Pikachu badly hurt kept him going. He soon came to a dangerous bridge and when he was halfway across it, it broke sending Ash into the river where he got hurt from a Goldeen.
Ash finally made it into town, but he was so exsauted that he was using a walking stick. He reached out to open the door to the shop when Gary pushed it open it hit Ash in the head, knocking him unconsious.
Back in the cave, Pikachu is getting worse and Brock and Misty are worried about Ash. Meowth is worried too because Jessie and James were taking a long time to come.
In town, Ash wakes up to yelling coming from inside the shop. Team Rocket is holding up the shop with ice guns and demands all of their Flash Powder and Dental Floss. When they got what they wanted, they fired a rocket that made it snow inside the store and they ran off to their balloon.
Ash ran into the store to get the medicine and when he walked in, he had four gun barrels pointing at him. Officer Jenny stopped the people holding the guns saying that he wasn't with Team Rocket.
Ash was soon riding on the back of Officer Jenny's motorcycle and heading towards the cave. Unfortunately, they came to the bridge that broke and they were fored to take a longer route. Team Rocket flew over the broken bridge and made Flash Bombs.
Ash and Officer Jenny found another way into the cave but it was too small for an adult to fit through, so Ash went in alone. It was too dark too see, so he had Charmander be his walking torch. Ash came too where the Squirtle Squad was but they weren't there anymore.
Ash ran out of the cave where the squad was he demanded to know where Misty and Brock were and they were right there. It turns out that the Squad was joking when they said they would dye Misty's hair. Pikachu was quickly sprayed with the Super Potion.
Suddenly, an explosion happened and Team Rocket recited their motto. They threw some more bombs and dropped down a ladder for Meowth to climb up with Pikachu. Ash yelled for everyone to go into the cave for cover.
Ash looked back and saw that the squad leader had been knocked onto its back and couldn't move. Ash ran back and protected Squirtle from the bombs. Ash told Squirtle to save itself, but the Squirtle picked up Ash and ran to the cave.
Team Rocket was celebrating and Ash told them that everyone had survived. They were stunned and Ash told all of the Squirtle to use Water Gun. It blew a hole in the balloon and James dropped Pikachu. Ash ran and caught Pikachu. Team Rocket and their balloon went blasting off again.
The bombs they had thrown started a fire and Ash said to the squad that if they worked together, they could stop the fire. They did.
When the fire stopped and the town was saved, they made the Squirtle Squad their new firefighter squad.
Ash and his friends left to go to Vermilion City with Pikachu back to his regular self. Misty noticed that the leader of the Squirtle Squad was following them. Ash asked Squirtle if he wanted to join them and he accepted.
- Ash was singing the Pokémon video game theme near the beginning of the episode.
- This is the second episode Ash and friends fell into a pitfall trap, only it was made by the Squirtle Squad.
- The part where Goldeen was sneaking up on Pikachu is near similar to the same part of the movie "Jaws".
- The "Who's that Pokémon?" of this episode is Squirtle.
- Gary makes a cameo in this episode, though he does not speak.
- There was a scene shown were one of the Squirtle was Spray Painting a character from Kirby; Dark Matter.
- "No! Not another hole." Misty
- "Ow! I landed on my head." Brock
- "Someone has a bad sense of humor." Misty
- "With my very own Squirtle, Gary will never beat me. Go Pikachu!" Ash
- "My cousins are all police officers, all of us look identical, plus we're all named Jenny." Officer Jenny about her family
- "Talk about family resemblance." Ash
- "At least they remember all their names." Misty
- "Do you see a restaurant? I'm really starving here." Meowth
- "But no more pizza." James
- "I'm sick of pizza every meal." James
- "You'll never eat again if you mess up this mission!" Jessie
- "Can we order chinese food?" James
- "Or maybe some tacos?" Meowth
- "Am I the only member of this team who thinks world domination is more important than what's for lunch?! Now let's focus ourselves on what really matters and that's how we're going to capture Pikachu." Jessie
- "Now my stomach says it's time to eat." Jessie
- "You're threatening us? We're Team Rocket. We threaten." Jessie
- "Those aren't Squirtles, they're pig-les." Jessie about the Squirtle Squad
- "Don't ever raise your voice to me again you bad human! Bad human! Bad, bad Human!" Meowth
- "We gotta keep up this act until the Squirtles trust me and that's gonna take a little time." Meowth about his plan
- "Knock it off Pikachu!" Ash while he's getting shocked
- "You're not gonna Squirtle outta this one." Misty
- "The Squirtle says if you're not back here by noon tomorrow, the red-headed girl gets her hair dyed purple." Meowth
- "Purple?! Why you mangy little flea-trap! When I get out of this I'm gonna wrap your tail around that-" Misty
- "Misty, don't worry. I'll be back, Okay?" Ash
- "Just don't look down." Ash about crossing the bridge
- "These are ice packs we're gunning. I mean, ice guns we're packing." James
- "Cool, we're just like the supervillains from those comic books except better looking." — Jessie
- "And even meaner." James
- "You wanna get rid of the Squirtle Squad, don't you? The flash powder will scare them out of town. The floss is for our teeth." Jessie
- "Charmander, lead the way." Ash
- "What've you done? I told you I'd be back by noon and I am. What did you do with my friends?" Ash
- "We're right here." Misty
- "So Misty, your hair isn't purple." Ash
- "Nope, I'm still a red-head." Misty
- "The Squirtle Squad was bluffing." Brock
- "They play tricks, but they'd never change a girl's natural hair color." — Misty
- "Meowth, carry Pikachu up the ladder." Jessie
- "And the rest of you are in for a real 'blast', get it?" James
- "And so, we gratefully award this certificate to the Squirtle Squad. Thank you for saving our town from the fire. Because of your skill and bravery, we proudly appoint you the town firefighters." Officer Jenny congratulating the Squirtle Squad
- "Welcome to the team Squirtle." Ash welcoming Squirtle
- "Yeah! I just caught a Squirtle!" Ash
- "Caught?! What do you mean 'caught'?!" Misty
- "It doesn't matter, it on our side now!" Ash


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When a female drops trow and presses her bare ass and mule lip up against a restaraunt window while the victim is eating. Female version of the fruit basket.
These shitty nacos were kicking my gag reflex until Lisa Loadlapper gave me the clam basket. I'd sure like to fill her cooch with my load.
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The inner, outer , and overall Lips of a womans vagina that gape,hang and generally appear to be crinkled together like clam parts found in your average seafood meal.
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a basket that holds clams. The basket is used for clam transport.
Look at the chowderhead carrying a clambasket.
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A slang term for a woman's lady-bits. Referring particuarly to those bits with a rather thick stench.
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A slang term for a woman's genitals. Refers to the occasional fishy smell which has been known to ebb out of their bits at times.
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Caption: Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center Commandant Col Danial Pick (left) speaks with Afghanistan/Pakistan (AFPAK) Hands, a program initiated by Adm. Mike Mullen in 2009 to train officers and senior enlisted servicemembers language and culture, enabling them establish rapport with the Afghan people and aid in the transition of power from coalition partners to the Afghan government. Pick was interested in feedback from AFPAK members about their language training.
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iOS 5 beta 2 gallery
For some strange reason, our tip box is now overflowing with 960x640 screenshots (what, no iPad love?) showing a few changes from today's iOS 5 beta 2 release. Among the more interesting ones:
- Welcome screen now has an info button to give you your UDID number, should you have failed to record it previously (Thanks Apple!)
- The iCloud icon in settings is no longer purple. Long live brush metal cone fill!
- Lock screen notifications get a new, single pop up. You can pull down the full list if you like, and if you get multiple notifications, they start to stack again like they did previously.
- Wi-Fi sync in now working, but you need to be connected to a power source.
- iCloud has bumped Exchange from the top spot in mail account setup, while MobileMe has been condemned to the bottom.
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iOS 5 beta 2 gallery
What happened to my backup..I've backed up my phone many times and its showing the last back up I did was 6/7/11 ..which sucks
mine keeps locking up in xcode during the install. goes almost to the end saying "waiting for device", and stays there. left it for 20 min before shutting it off, and restoring in itunes. now im running 4.3. any ideas?
im trying it again. I didnt download and use the new version of xcode. Im hoping thats the problem. I'll update.
It is not animated. BGR is mistaken, or fed a load of crap. Maybe it will in the final, but really, is an animated boot logo really necessary? I could live without it.
no, i thing Cameron is right, i noticed that although the apple logo is the same, sometimes (i guess this is a beta bug) just before it goes away theres a small animation where light comes out the back of the apple logo which turns black. best way i can describe it. anyways, i admit that is beta 1, will get beta 2 now and ill see if its still there.
Wireless iTunes Sync is working and really cool. In fact, I didn't even have to do anything on the iPhone or even plug it into a power source for that matter. I was on my computer and my iPhone was across the room and when I opened up iTunes it automatically detected my iPhone and I could sync it and everything
Anyone know how to get rid of the BIG notify box when the screen is locked? I liked it better in beta 1 when is was just a banner.
Hi, thank you for the post, I just installed and activated the beta 2 on my iPhone after having registered my UDID on registermybeta:com
They're very fast and friendly, I hope this can help ;)
Cheers !
Tabs in safari are nice, however I wish They didn't completely get rid of the page thumbnail view. Why not keep the tabs, but put a button in the nab bar so you can zoom out and see all open pages, like before. They put all that work into UI development, which was pretty slick, and then hatchet it? It doesn't have to be Tabs or thumbnails, it can be both! I hope that returns before GM, it was a mistake to hatchet it.
Anyone else notice music and video are separate and no longer "iPod" is this a beta thing?
Also anyone explain what options are in the FaceTime settings.
I'd still like to see more text tone options. I don't see why it's such an issue! Otherwise, I love you, iPhone.
I just found one I haven't seen elsewhere. If you're in the camera.app, you can swipe left to see the camera roll.
Still no "Reminders" showing up in the notification center. Isn't that supposed to be happening? Or just calendar appointments?
the one thing that has been pissing me off, is installing the beta on my ipod touch 3G, and when i add my music all is well, but when i plug it into my earphones or AUX in my car. The bastard restarts and what not. Fix!
if you want a FREE 15$ ITUNES GIFT CARD follow these directions:
1) install the shopkick app from the app store.
2) after clicking "let's do it" (haha) click cancel at the top left of your ipod.
3) go to the "me tab at the bottom left of your ipod.
4) click the " got a promo code? box and on the next screen type in mink8492 ...this works on all ipod touch generations jailbroken or not.
I cannot copy and paste in safari inputs, for example if I want to post a link on FaceBook using safari and I copy the link from a site, I cannot paste it on safari. After pressing down and the magnifying glass comes up, it is supposed to be followed with the copy cut option but it never comes up. Anyone else experiencing this?


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A text based seminar examining Aquinas' theology of the Incarnation in the Summa Theologiae. Students will develop critical reading skills and familiarity with the grammatical, rhetorical and dialectical dimensions of Aquinas' systematics. Basic Degree: Short papers, reading assignments, major paper. Advanced degree: three shorter papers, classroom presentation, reading assignments, major research paper.
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Gathering on the Green announces headliners
ARRIVAL, an ABBA tribute band from Sweden, and The Von Trapp Family Singers will headline this year's Gathering on the Green July 12 and 13 at Mequon Rotary Park.
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Ted Nugent calls Wisconsin critics "unclean vermin," but Oshkosh show still sells well
For Ted Nugent, there's no such thing as bad publicity — at least in Wisconsin.
The Detroit-born rock star encountered bad concert karma this week. A Native American tribe in Idaho canceled an August show he planned at its casino, citing his "racist and hate-filled remarks" as cause for concern. Soon afterward, a Washington casino followed suit, canceling two August shows for the same reason. »Read Full Article(108)
9 new things to do at the 2014 Wisconsin State Fair
The Wisconsin State Fair is chock-full of fun traditions: groovy musical performances, tummy-turning rides and those messy yet irresistible cream puffs.
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State's craft beers on display at Wisconsin State Fair
Quick, name three agriculture products associated with Wisconsin.
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The State Fair offers many admission discounts and deals.
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Six top concerts to see at the Wisconsin State Fair
Lady Antebellum.Aretha Franklin.Funk-playing mummies.Vanilla Ice.
The Wisconsin State Fair lineup this year is nothing if not eclectic. »Read Full Article
New foods to eat, new food stands to see at State Fair
Taste the amazing pork-on-pork bacon-wrapped cherrywood smoked pork belly. Wash it down with beer coffee or a Grannie Smith Caramel Apple milkshake. For dessert, nibble on the deep-fried maple bacon cookie dough.
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2014 Wisconsin State Fair daily entertainment schedule
Main Stage presented by Potawatomi: 7:30 p.m. Phil Vassar, with Maggie Rose »Read Full Article
Wisconsin State Fair 2014 livestock judging schedule
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Fox Point native's Watergate doc on 40th anniversary of Nixon resignation
Richard Nixon resigned the presidency in disgrace over the Watergate scandal forty years ago this coming Aug. 8.
And if you're of a certain age you, like me, were sitting in front of the television set watching his resignation speech. Just as we sat riveted to the hearings preceding it. »Read Full Blog Post
Getting a quick read: Speeding-dating 8 short-story collections
Welcome to the second installment of speed-dating the short-story collections.
Last year, after I set aside a number of promising new collections of stories, I read the first story in each book and shared my impressions. »Read Full Article
Amy Bloom's 'Lucky Us' balances wicked humor, dark times
True to her reputation for dramatic openers, Amy Bloom begins "Lucky Us," her first novel in seven years, like this: "My father's wife died. My mother said we should drive down to his place and see what's in it for us."
It's a breezy and funny beginning, from a writer who has always had a wicked sense of humor. But the mood soon alters: The speaker — 12-year-old Eva Acton — learns that what Mom really wants to see is what's in this death for her. She dumps Eva on the grieving Edgar — father to both the illegitimate Eva and the legitimate, 16-year-old Iris — and disappears, except for a brief cameo late in the novel. »Read Full Article
Kabana Grill offers the best of Indian, Pakistani flavors
Warm, fresh-baked bread is bound to be good. But some bread is better than others, like the sesame naan at Kabana Grill on the south side.
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On Tap Today: German Fest, a county fair and advice for Gallery Night & Day
So many choices.
German Fest opens today. Cue the dachshunds. »Read Full Blog Post
Beyoncé and Jay Z's 'On the Run' tour at Soldier Field in Chicago
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