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Round 2 of the Battle of the Beltways begins tonight at Camden Yards.
We have finally reached the final series of the Nationals' 32-game stretch against nothing but NL East and AL East opponents. They've already guaranteed they'll wind up with a winning record during this span, having gone 17-12 to this point, but they'd certainly like to add another couple (or three) victories to the pile this weekend against the Orioles.
The Nats also are motivated to take this series after losing two of three to Baltimore last month in D.C. Jordan Zimmermann did not pitch in that series, so he'll be making his first start of the season against the Orioles tonight (he has faced them three previous times in his career, going 1-1 with a 2.75 ERA).
Jason Hammel (who did face the Nats last month and came away with a win) is on the mound for Baltimore, so Davey Johnson is using his standard lineup against right-handers … with one twist. Since they're in an American League, Michael Morse will serve as designated hitter for the seventh straight time). Roger Bernadina takes his spot in right field.
Unfortunately, I'm not able to cover tonight's game at Camden Yards. Rich Dubroff will have the full report on CSNwashington.com, and I'll be sure to post links here later. Enjoy the game…
WASHINGTON NATIONALS at BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Where: Camden Yards
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: WWXT (92.7 FM), WWXX (94.3 FM), WJFK (106.7 FM), WTEM (980 AM), WFED (1500 AM), XM 182
Weather: Scattered storms, 87 degrees, Wind 8 mph LF to RF
LF Steve Lombardozzi
CF Bryce Harper
3B Ryan Zimmerman
1B Adam LaRoche
- mick - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:13 PM
what da mean you can't cover tonight's game… your slacking off Markjust joking, GO NATS
- Bigfish - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Mick: The contraction of "you are" is "you're." Grammar nut here. Just sayin'.
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Don't worry – it's going to be covered so much it will be smothered. Joint coverage — blech. Hate it so much. Interesting scenario – what if we end up playing the Orioles in the world series – think we will have joint coverage?
- mick - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM
bigfish… I know, its the beer's fault, lol
- Joe Seamhead - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM
Seeing as you posted the Espinosa thread at 12:56 a.m. you're forgiven, Mark!
- Les_in_NC - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:34 PM
Speakin' of joint coverage…. I never did hear how the TV contract situation ever turned out..Anyone else know about that?
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:36 PM
I am pretty sure Fox has the World Series so Joe Buck and TIm McCarver will cover it.Next time you can't go mark let me go, and I will update your blog or ask ROb Dubroff update it like you do.Can we get the hitting going finally. Down to .240. 13th in the leage 12th in runs. Give the pitchers a break guys.GYFNG
- waddu eye no - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM
mz – hope your plans include a baby and a wife. enjoy the night off.gyfng
- Doc - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Let's win all 3 for Davey!!!
- Steady Eddie - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:38 PM
Swami — no matter whogetsto the WS, fortunately (from the no-MASN perspective) the TV coverage is in the hands of one of the networks (I think Fox has the rights now?).But Os won't get there with their current pitching rotation. And will their BP hold up?
- waddu eye no - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM
joint coverage – ick. tivo, pause, and radio time. even when it's not synced right, it's better.
- Section 222 - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 PM
waddu eye — agreed. If you have the MLB App on your smartphone or computer, you can sync Charlie and Dave with the muted and DVR'd MASN. The audio is about 45 seconds behind the video, rather than ahead of it, as it is on the radio.
- natsfan1a - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM
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- natsfan1a - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Agreed on the joint coverage ick. Tomorrow it's on Fox, so we'll only have two days of joints…ummm…moving right along now…Les, no decision on the MASN contract situation yet. They've put it off until at least July 1.
- MicheleS - Jun 22, 2012 at 8:59 PM
HI Rabbitt!!!!DJinFL/Mick from previous post.. Not sure about Upton either, but I will take DJ's word for it, he gets to see it up close more than any of us.Ick on the joint coverage as well.Morse is probably DYING for Monday and no more interleague.. I hate the DH too!!Mark enjoy the night off!!GYFNG!!!!.. stomp on those O's!!!!!!!!
- Feel Wood - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:00 PM
Finally, finally, I still don't get how buying tickets on the secondary market puts money in Angelos' pockets. Ok, there's that 10% commission on StubHub that MLB takes, and maybe he gets a slice of that, but still, the tickets have already been purchased.True, the tickets have already been purchased. And the person who purchased those tickets has put money into Angelos's pockets. But then someone comes along and buys those tickets on the secondary market. They give money to the original purchaser that replaces the money the original purchaser gave to Angelos. So that secondary buyer may not be handing their money directly to Angelos, but they might as well be. A secondary purchaser who haughtily claims "I'm not giving my money to Angelos" is just like Sgt. Schultz saying "I know nothing!" while stuff is going on right under his nose.
- MicheleS - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:05 PM
Peraltar dropped his appeal..
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:06 PM
Still remember that home run by Vlad. Hope he is better today because I am going and4e hoping to last thw whole game despite the heat.
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Read the tweet about Hamels. Not sure about any school but I think Hamels has realized his mistake since that HBP.
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:14 PM
so Nats have signed their 3rd round pick. I am hoping they do the same with Giolito.
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Pealta dropped his appeal. Quelle surpise.Rays Stuffhttp://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120622&content_id=33739416&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:15 PM
I am so over inter-league play. And guys, come on, you owe Jordan big time. Hit the ball!!!! ( and not right at the shortstop, please) Last start Jordan got a hit, made defensive plays, pitched his heart out. As he usually does. Last night the team looked more animated than they have looked recently. I even saw a fist pump from ALR. Hope they are fired up!!! Any forecast for storms up that way? Hoping the only firewords in the sky are homeruns flying out of OPACY and hit by our guys. Zim is soooo due.
- Section 222 - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Welcome back Feel! And the primary purchaser also has more money to buy additional tickets sometime in the future. And there are the concessions because few people can resist a dog or a brew while at the game, and Angelos gets that profit. Ok, I get that. But under your theory, we're all Sgt. Schultzes, because there are fans at the game who bought tickets, even though we're just watching on TV. Would I be putting money in Angelos's pocket if your brother Phil invited me to go along and gave me one of his season tickets? (Leaving aside the beer purchase of course.) If I refuse to go, Phil will just take someone else, maybe you. (Ok, Phil probably doesn't have season tix to the O's anymore, but you catch my drift, right?) Phil bought the ticket, maybe six months ago. Angelos has that money and gets no more from me, whether Phil sells it to me, gives it to me, or goes to the game alone and looks forlornly at the empty seat.
- waddu eye no - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:23 PM
but wait! there's more!if you're a mac geek like me yo can tune in the game on the app on your iphone/ipod touch, and play it through your stereo using airport. or just plug it in to an extra input on your amp. amp up that charlie and dave. btw – my first season nat's hat has now been proudly worn to prague, rome and florence. great vacation, but the time difference meant i could only listen to day games. but kept up with you all.beat them o's hon!gyfng
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM
swami, I agree about inter-league but we better get used to it. This is going to happen all season long. This is gonna be more terrible.
- waddu eye no - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM
peralta's appeal was just to get another crack at us for revenge. how's that work out?
- Another_Sam - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM
NatsLady — Regarding your thought about wondering about condition, in the previous thread: The first time I went to spring training and saw pitchers running in the outfield — an activity I'd long heard about — I almost didn't recognize it as running. LOL They weren't running hard and they didn't do many reps. LOL But seriously I know that they do lots of condition, but running in the outfield didn't look like a big part of it.
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:30 PM
I actually think it's going to be better when it's sprinkled through the season. If your hitting is cold then you aren't facing an entire AL gauntlet all at one time. You won't be stuck with someone dh'ing a lot all in a row, either. I don't like it all bunched up.
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:32 PM
And my last word on Peralta – I think he appealed it just so that he could pitch against us for two days. It was just a delay until he left here. You just know there was a huge amount for him to get 8 games and drop the appeal, though.
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM
You know there had to be a lot. Davey hangs with the players–golfs with the pitchers, is out there giving instruction to the position players. You KNOW he hears stuff. If he acted on it, in this case– it had to be excessive.
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM
DeRosa and Maldonado both at PNats tonight. Apparently (twitter machine) DeRosa is only going to do a few games. I just think the Nats players need to do more rehab starts than they do. Not one of them has been ready when they came back. We have guys who are holding the fort, take the time to be ready. Plus — high A pitching is not exactly the same as the majors.
- Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Greaseman (Peralta) is a creep — and creepy looking. I can't believe I rooted for that creep a couple years ago. He deserves Maddon (Idiot) for his manager, too
- Another_Sam - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 PM
Has this been discussed here? Look at that lineup. How many days in a row is Harper in CF? Is this the new look? What about when JW gets back? Do you guys like BH in CF? I'd thought that CF was not really his best spot — the CF is essentially captain of the outfield. But for some reason I thought he showed growth out there last night — passing up some overly aggressive throughs, for example. What do you guys think? Is this the look of the future: BH in CF?
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 22, 2012 at 9:59 PM
Swami, I think with 14 teams in NL and 16 teams in AL, also having to play in DH parks and then non-DH parks, corresponding roster moves, and some teams facing off against all AL East teams and some not (like this season) is going to cause problems to lot of managers and their teams.
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Amanda Comak @acomakFormer #Nats pitcher Luis Atilano, who'd been playing for Jim Riggleman at Double-A, was suspended 50 games for 2nd drug of abuse violation
- fresh2death1997 - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I love the fact DJ puts in Bernadina! Go Nats!
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Dan Kolko @masnKolkoDrew Storen threw live BP earlier today. All fastballs. Was happy with it.
- Wendell - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Richard Adler, who co-wrote the music and lyrics to Damn Yankees, died yesterday. Let's hope Mr. Applegate still keeps his end of the deal.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damn_Yankees
- MicheleS - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Faraz, don't forget next year that Astros go to AL West(sad for them)MLB Network just did a thing on it and they think it might get cut down a bit (less of the "Rivalry" series) so there is hope for that.
- waddu eye no - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:22 PM
wendell: Richard Adler, who co-wrote the music and lyrics to Damn Yankees, died yesterday.a lot of brains, a lot of talent. lola wants a win!
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:27 PM
I feel a home with harper on for Zim tonight. he breaks loose tonight….. GO Zim
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:30 PM
nake that a homer
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Rain delay. Thunderstorms. Don't have a starting time yet.
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Any regulars make the trip up 95? Post from the park if you did! Please?
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Latest on Giolito. Not much new.nationals-sign-third-round-choice-brett-mooneyham-lucas-giolito-negotiation-remainshttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/nationals-sign-third-round-choice-brett-mooneyham-lucas-giolito-negotiation-remains/2012/06/22/gJQA1zD1vV_blog.html
- Feel Wood - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:02 PM
222, you can take all the free tickets you want from anyone – even Angelos himself – without feeling guilty. But as soon as you hand money to someone for a ticket, you're at least partly subsidizing him. And you may be completely subsidizing him. It's not unheard of for owners to put their unsold tickets directly on StubHub. And it's not illegal, either. Daniel Snyder was unmasked for doing that, as a way of maintaining the fiction that the Redskins have a long waiting list for season tickets when in fact there are lots of seats available. Putting them directly on StubHub allows him to sell them at less than face value, recoup something for them, and maintain the sellout so his telecasts aren't blacked out. If you don't believe me, read the archives of Dan Steinberg in the Post and Dave McKenna in the City Paper.Angelos is at least as evil as Snyder, wouldn't you say? Surely he knows that there are people like you who would not buy a ticket directly from him on principle, but would buy one from someone else. So enjoy the game while you bask in your illusion of non-guilt. You're not fooling anybody but yourself.
- NatsLady - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM
Peralta on dropping his appeal (video). I think he insulted Filly, but you can read into it what you want.video-peralta-dropping-appealhttp://www.tampabay.com/blogs/rays/content/video-peralta-dropping-appeal
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:35 PM
The thing with Giolito is that he absolutely does not need money. Some of these kids who are drafted just can't walk away from enough money to take care of their families. This kid is from a famous and wealthy family and grew up in Beverly Hills. Yes, the money that you are offered, especially with "certain" agents, represents "respect". Seems like he is going to be making the choice to enter the pros now or go to college. This is truly a choice for him much more than most of the other draftees. He is a big kid – do you think he still has growing to do? Seems pretty poised and mature, but grew up in the spotlight, too. My mom, who is elderly, is very excited for me because she always watched his parents on her soap so she thinks this is a big deal for their kid to join my team. We have had some very amusing conversations about it. Now that I think of it – I think I will call her during the rain delay…..
- MicheleS - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:38 PM
NatsLady.. snickering at Peraltar on Filly.. How the mighty have fallen!We need the rain, but I hate rain delay's
- baseballswami - Jun 22, 2012 at 11:57 PM
So if the game is starting at 8, shouldn't the broadcast be back on by now? Oh, masn – you just stink so bad.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Broadcast is on. Lombo just grounded out.
- fresh2death1997 - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Offence needs to get going!
- Joe Seamhead - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:28 AM
Another_Sam said…Has this been discussed here? Look at that lineup. How many days in a row is Harper in CF? Is this the new look? What about when JW gets back? Do you guys like BH in CF? I'd thought that CF was not really his best spot — the CF is essentially captain of the outfield. But for some reason I thought he showed growth out there last night — passing up some overly aggressive throughs, for example. What do you guys think? Is this the look of the future: BH in CF?June 22, 2012 5:55 PM——————–Sam, Harp has made it clear that he feels much more comfortable in center. In many ways RF is a more difficult position. I see the Kid as our long term CF.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Oh, the offense. Oh, Jordan. Sigh….
- NatsJack in Florida - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Andy Pettite looking like an old man tonite. 5-0 Mets after the first.
- NatsJack in Florida - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:38 AM
And the obligatory JZimm gopher ball.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Did you see those stats about Jordan's string of staying in games? Great play at first- gold glove candidate for sure. He looks tons better early than Gio did last night at this point. Once again, though , we are going to need runs.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:50 AM
All of our pitching stats are in the top tier. 13out of 16 in offense just kills it.
- phil dunton - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:50 AM
If Harper doesn't hit, the Nats have no offense and Harper hasn't been hitting lately. I hope Ecstein hasn't been messing with him.
- Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:51 AM
I'm with Joe Seamhead. Kid has been fine in CF. Gets a decent break on the ball and shows good judgment. To think this kid was a catcher three years ago is amazing.
- SCNatsFan - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:54 AM
C'mon guys, show some life at the plate.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:55 AM
We should not be depending on a rookie for offense. These pros should be able to hit major league pitching. So it did not rain during the rain delay. Now it rains. Jordan cannot catch a break, ever.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Les_in_NC said…I never did hear how the TV contract situation ever turned out … Anyone else know about that?Les, the arbitrator put off a decision. No call yet. No news.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Go ahead and put off that decision. Price is going up.
- phil dunton - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:03 AM
With every passing game, Zimmerman gets worse. He needs to sit for awhile.
- fresh2death1997 - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:04 AM
6 Ks for Hammels in 4 innings.. this offence needs help.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:05 AM
I know their pitcher is good. But our hitters look so very bad. They are supposed to be able to hit good pitching. Just awful.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:05 AM
5 K's through 4 innings. Come on hitters get off your rears and start pulling your weight.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:06 AM
actually recounting that is 6 k's
- Joe Seamhead - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:08 AM
Once again, we make a pitcher look like the second coming of Cy Young.
- Fear and Ignorance - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:09 AM
Zimmerman is a huge joke. Davey needs to show some leadership and put him in the 8th spot. I am so sick of this. Werth last year. Zimmerman this year. $252 million for 2 underachieving #7 hitters. I think I would rather have Vinny Cerrato running this team.
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:09 AM
I've already turned this loss off to watch The Natural. At least I'll see someone I root for generate some offense.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:10 AM
Phil, you need to troll harder to keep up in here.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:12 AM
F&U, Will, I don't blame you. God forbid we should be subjected to watching this first-place team all season.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM
Jordan's pitching is well worth watching. It's the hitters that make you want to barf.
- SCNatsFan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:14 AM
The 6 ks so far indicate the bad Nats are hacking tonight. Lets hope we can get one big inning. JZim has to feel like once he gives a run up he has no chance at a W.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:17 AM
The Nats make EVERY pitcher look like a Cry Young candidate. I miss the patient approach,wearing down opposing starters to get to the bullpen. Zimm looking on three pitches, LaRoche on one (outside), at least they got Morse on four.Their approach is just terrible now.It's like the opposing pitchers know exactly what our hitters will do, and we just can't make any adjustments.One thing we really seem unable to do is pick up the pitch. Does anyone else in MLB use the technique Eckstein does, where he pitches from like 45 feet to make the ball get there faster? I just wonder if that hurts the batter's ability to pick up rotation?
- SCNatsFan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:19 AM
Reynolds taketh then giveth away
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:19 AM
Soul – We're watching a first place pitching staff and a last place offense, and my TV has a remote, so technology is great. I sat in the RFK and Nats Park stands for a lot of losses from '05-'10. I don't need your endorsement to earn my fandom.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:19 AM
fresh2death1997 said…6 Ks for Hammels in 4 innings.. this offence needs help.Yup–luckily they got it. That is the difference when you make 62 errors (or 60 in the case of Tampa Bay.)
- Fear and Ignorance - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:20 AM
Sofa-If you think a team that hits this poorly is going to end up in 1st place with a chance to do anything in the playoffs…you are sorely mistaken. They HAVE to start hitting!!! They are the San Diego Padres with Strasburg and Gio.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:20 AM
Desond is one young vet who is putting out successful effort. Of the 6 K's his was the only where the batter looked strong, the other 5 the batter looked very weak.Now his baserunning gets us a run.Could everyone else please join the game?
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:21 AM
The difference in approach is glaring. Especially with a hot pitcher it would be great to get him out of the game. We are easy outs, not tough outs. Desi with the hustle again, trying to make something happen.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:22 AM
Perfectionism is the enemy of Very Good. No, they don't have a great hitting team. They don't even have an average hitting team. Only neurotic, self-absorbed men have types. The rest of us take what we can get.I think Dashiell Hammett said that.
- Steady Eddie - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:23 AM
Soul, you have more patience with these petulant 14 year olds than I do. I can see why Nats Jack and some other grown ups have given up on the game threads.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:25 AM
Sofa-If you think a team that hits this poorly is going to end up in 1st place with a chance to do anything in the playoffs…you are sorely mistaken. They HAVE to start hitting!!! They are the San Diego Padres with Strasburg and Gio.You're whiffing on the point, Figgie, like it's a Strasburg changeup. They play the games, and the team that wins the most at the end of the year is in first place. I watch to find out who that will be. No amount of prediction figures in the standings.
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:26 AM
And I don't understand how anyone can watch this offense and NOT get angry, but to each his own.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:27 AM
I mostly have, too, Steady Eddie. I'm just back on the Sofa for the evening, and in a good mood, so it doesn't bother me.It's been a long time since I burst into tears because some [homo sapiens] on the Internet called me a name.
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Last time I looked upthread, I hadn't called you a name, buddy. Touchy.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:28 AM
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- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:29 AM
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- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:31 AM
I'm about ready to give up on game forums too. I am, admittedly, an angry watcher of games. It's why I've had to stop Tweeting or going on Facebook during them. But one of the reasons I look at comments during games is to feel a sense of shared frustrations. It's especially important having moved away from home (and into the town of an NL East rival). But instead, anything not remotely Kool-Aid flavored is labelled as trolling. Last time I checked, I hadn't advocated for Zimmerman to be cut or Strasburg traded for spare parts. People need to stop running for Mayor of Natstown in the forums.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:32 AM
I'm happy that we are in first place. However, other is a lot of improvement to be had in the hitting department.Rather than simply bash Eckstein tonight, I thought I would pose a question about whether a BP pitching technique of his, highlighted at one point in the season, could be causing a problem. I enjoy watching the games, but I would enjoy them more if we scored more runs.
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:33 AM
ehay2k, all too often, I would settle for runs – plural, let alone "more" runs.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:34 AM
O's announcer: I would think it's very comforting to Nats hitters that they don't have to score a lot of runs. Um, NO!
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:34 AM
Wow. The Mets are beating up on those unbeatable Yankees.
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:35 AM
At least Zim didn't GIDP.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:35 AM
Let's try that again, this time with attributions.Will, didn't see your "endorsement" comment at first. Sorry. No, of course you don't. You don't need everyone to agree with you, either, I hope. "And I don't understand how anyone can watch this offense and NOT get angry, but to each his own."More a failure of imagination, really. I might argue you're feeling a bit overly entitled, there, but as you say, that's yours to do. And no, you, particularly, calling me, personally, names, on this here particular occasion, was not what I was referring to. I apologise for any confusion.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:36 AM
Natslady, you do love you some fried fish! ( I only wish we could hit Sanchez like that.)
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:36 AM
I don't think anybody called Will a troll, either.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:38 AM
ehay2k, yes, I do. Never gets old.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:39 AM
The hitters as a group make you want to barf. They all have the same hitting coach, so I have a solution that I ahve called for since 2010 when I saw the same crappy hitting approach.
- Fear and Ignorance - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:40 AM
33 hits in their last 56 innings. They simply cannot beat good teams that way unless that team is hurt or in a terrible slump. Our best vs. their best…they will lose because they can't hit. Looking at the stats the other day…only Padres and Pirates have a worse offense.
- Steady Eddie - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:45 AM
Grant me the courage to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I can't, and the wisdom to know the difference. Of course it's frustrating but a little sense of perspective helps. Probably a third of the games they've won this year have looked like this. And maybe half of their losses, but that's about 13 games in each category.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:46 AM
I do love the Nats and it has been a nice surprise to be in first – I pinch myself a lot. During the losing years it always seemed like being a first place team would be fun and carefree and that it would seem easy. This never seems easy and is a lot more stressful. I get mad at myself because I get so emotionally involved, but I guess that's why we love games – they make us forget about our everyday problems — someone the age of my sons doesn't hit a little white ball and I think it's the end of the world. But during the games I rarely worry about anything else. I am trying to dial back my angst. Somewhere along the line Jordan became my favorite player and so I pull for him every minute of the game – it's probably easier to have a position player be your favorite! I know people think being a die-hard fan is kind of silly. I don't feel like I choose it – it chooses me! Breathing now – this is supposed to be fun, darn it! Now – about some run support….
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:47 AM
Yes, but… they don't have to play good teams who are healthy and hot, exclusively. When they do, you're right, they will lose a lot of those games. But they play 162 games, and most of them aren't against good, hot, healthy teams. They are a good team, because they have great pitching. The hitting isn't good. That's who they are. The fun part is watching them win in spite of that, for some of us. Evidently, that's not fun for you. Saul Good.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:48 AM
Why is there a Baltimore police officer in the O's dugout?
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:50 AM
Now that I have made my baseball is a beautiful game speech. Our offense IS really bad.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:51 AM
Or to put it another way, my own failure of imagination is to not understand how people can get so worked up over a baseball game. It's just a game. No one dies. No one goes hungry. No one gets shot if they mess up. It's a game. How upset do you get when Jay Leno messes up the punchline of a joke?
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:53 AM
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- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:54 AM
Soul, if I got upset every time Leno screwed up a punchline, I'd have gone postal by now. <— Team CoCo.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:55 AM
If Leno misses a punchline,I'm not sure I'd know. Is there some sort of Gameday app for the Tonight Show some can track each joke?
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:55 AM
Did I mention that I love Ian Desmond?
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:56 AM
Ian Desmond cannot do this alone. But he is trying.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:56 AM
Also, if Leno misses a punch line, I tend to blame the writers!
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:56 AM
Lefty Danny!
- Will - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:59 AM
I'm just not sure Bernie is a useful player anymore, except maybe as a pinch runner/defensive sub.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:01 AM
Now, that was REALLY unlucky!
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:02 AM
the three guys who the ball in the 7th did fine, the two who didn't looked very poor. Dlores almost came through just needed to be a couple inches higher. Hitters till just aren't carrying their weight.
- jeffwx - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:03 AM
I think it better to have Morse in the OF and Tyler Moore as DH. He can hit both LHP and RHPDid palmer say its like the nats do not have a hitting coach
- rogieshan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:05 AM
I will only say this: With all the free swingers already on this team, I sure hope Rizzo doesn't go after B.J. Upton this off-season.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:06 AM
Funny comment by Palmer about Eck, who apparently said "You'd think that maybe [we] don't even have a hitting instructor…"Sadly, we are well aware that we do.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:06 AM
Here is the problem it seems our starters are excellent, and the opponents starters when they go against us are excellent. When is the last time we just knocked on out of the box? We play against Cy Young way too many times. We provide our Cy Young some of the time.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:08 AM
Some days peanuts, some days shells. Jordan with 14 straight statrs where he goes 6 innings or more. Up there with Livo even though he is only 26. Also up there with the unluckiest pitchers ever. Is this guy their number one pitcher? Even though our hitters look bad, he is a pretty good pitcher, and not just tonight against us. And when we finally get something going the Orioles decide to play good defense.
- phil dunton - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:12 AM
Harper slumping big time.
- Fear and Ignorance - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:13 AM
Way to work the count in the 8th inning…terrible baseball. So pathetic. 5 pitches!!!
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM
Our hitters are so poor our pitchers cannot afford any mistakes. Jzimermann made 2 mistakes a hanging slider to Reynolds, and a 2 out 1-2 pitch that hits Johnson who 2 hits later scores. the 2 hits not that bad a pitch. But pitchers have to have a little wiggle room and our hitters simply refuse to give them any.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM
If you keep doing the same thing over and over and over and it doesn't work? Frustrating.
- phil dunton - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM
When Desmond stops hitting, our offense will be officially dead!
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:17 AM
Last night Gio got off to a terrible start, settled down and we got some clutch hitting. Tonight JZim battles once again, the offense showed a tiny spark and the Orioles suddenly decide they can play defense.
- SCNatsFan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:23 AM
JZim can feel bad about run support but he needs to up his game and not give that second run right back
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:25 AM
I like FP, but does he have a deck of cards with the 52 top broadcasting clichés, that he rotates through each game?
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM
OK, Lefty Danny, we need you now…
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:26 AM
NO, GOOD Lefty Danny.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:27 AM
Would you believe … we need LUCKY Lefty Danny?Ouch.
- ehay2k - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:27 AM
Sigh. Oh well, back again tomorrow. Good start once again by Jordan.
- Fear and Ignorance - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:28 AM
Zimmerman now has the 3rd lowest slugging percentage in the National League…but he gave us a hometown discount right??? That contract will define this team for many years to come.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:29 AM
Oh well. Go get 'em tomorrow.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:30 AM
Ehay, IOU a coke.
- Soul Possession, My Hitterish Sofa - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:32 AM
Braves are winning, Mets are winning, Marlins lost, Phillies rained out.
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:32 AM
SCNats Fan – are you kidding me????? Our pitcher battles 7, walks one, is pitch efficient and gives up two runs and you are blaming him for the loss? His era will probably go down. Any pitcher on any team in the major leagues would be happy if they only gave up 2 runs per start. That's just nutty. We couldn't even score a second run to tie it up. This guy can't catch a break with his offense or his so-called fans.
- DJB - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:34 AM
Is there anyway we can trade Ryan Zimmerman? He's killing this team. What a waste of great pitching. Rizzo has to do something, anything to get some patient bats in here.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:41 AM
It is not our starters that are the probme. The way our pitching is we will be in most games.We way our hitting is we will win ssome and lose some.I just can't figure out the what the hitting strategy is. Seems to change every game. I don;t mind swing at the first pitch if it is a fast ball over the middle. What gets me more is taking the fast ball over the middle, then swinging at one in the dirt and being down 0-2. that happens way too often. Why let the fast ball go and swing at the crap. that is what makes no sense. That is in fact what they do a lot. that is what I blame on Eck (though people say I am wrong). When too many do the same thing there is a philosphical problem among the group, and the leader needs to step up and fix it.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:42 AM
Swami, sorry but I'm with SCNats on this one. JZ can complain all he wants (he won't, of course) but he doesn't hold serve. He's up against the O's Ace, you can't make two mistakes.
- DJB - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:43 AM
Simply the worst hitting team I have ever seen. And what's wrong with boy wonder? We will be out of first by mid-July unless the hitting picks up pronto.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:53 AM
If I were Davey–it's too late now–I would give serious consideration to ignoring the DH and letting JZ hit. Wouldn't do it for Stras or EJax, but I would for JZ. Just play the NL game. Gotta be a really helpless feeling for JZ when he can't help himself on the offensive side.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:59 AM
This is first time harper has gone 0 for 2 straight games, and people are on him already. Zim I can see being on he is 5 or 50 or the last 12 games. Our gitters always seem to make the opposing starters look like Cy Young. No game plan eveident.
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM
I know most of you think that the hitting coach does nothing. I ahve come to that conclussion to as nothing changes, and they all have a different approach. I know Jake Long meets with his hitters in New York, and they have a strategy (works sometimes and doesn't others). We have no strategy, as we have no one in charge of the hitters. (Eck is just an adviser I have been told).
- peric - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:03 AM
They're not going to hit. That was always the assumption people? And everyone gave JayB such a hard time for saying as much AND he was right.It is unexpected to have both Zim and Morse trying to ramp up at this stage due to injuries both suffered pretty early on.And it only gets worst if Johnson decides to bring in DeRosa's bat over Marerro's. LIke CMW and Lidge another HUGE mistake for a guy who claimed he could help this team hit better. C'mon Davey WTF are you thinking? DeRosa is now terrible in the field as well as at the plate!!! You must like looking disaster right in the face?In any case the take on this team from the beginning was good starting pitching, lights out bullpen, good to stellar defense, and a sputtering offense. And that won't change until the young hitters learn to hit and more of them arrive on the scene to compliment those that are already here.
- Unknown - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM
Folks, I'm pissed they lost to Angelos' team, but they were just plain unlcky tonight. And firing Eck won't help the hitting – only changes in personnel will – Werth is coming back in august, so we can platoon Lombo/Espi at 2B – that will help a lot — also think Tyler Moore gets more time. But this team will go only as far as the pitching takes them – it's like 2005, but the pitching is better than then, hitting about the same. Patience – I'd trade the sweep of Boston for a sweep of the O's, but baseball just doesn't work that way…sigh.
- peric - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM
If I were Davey–it's too late now–I would give serious consideration to ignoring the DH and letting JZ hit. Not his job. Davey should be putting Tyler Moore in the lineup. Every single game in an AL ballpark. THAT IS THE glaring mistake.
- Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:24 AM
peric sez: "And it only gets worst if Johnson decides to bring in DeRosa's bat over Marerro's."OMG, we're in much worse shape than I ever thought if we're counting on Chris Marerro to pull us out of this.Chris Marerro is at best No. 4 on my first base depth chart:ALRMooreMorseThe no-hit, no-field MarerroI'm not saying DeRosa is the answer. But Chris Marerro is not even a question.
- m20832 - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:30 AM
YAY!!! Our Nats are still in first place by 2.5 games over the mutts and 3.5 games over the atl. Will they still be in 1st place at the end of this series?10K's, 5 hits and 1 run as a gift from the o's. Just how pathetic is that? They hit almost every ball straight at a player, or whiffed on the same pitch every bat. But I still LUVEM! GYFNG!!!
- Manassas Nats' Fan - Jun 23, 2012 at 3:53 AM
Of course they will be in first after the series. Only 2 games left and Muts are 2.5 behind.
- Faraz Shaikh - Jun 23, 2012 at 4:04 AM
that was a very disappointing game to be at. I think Nats have lost all the games I have attended, except one. is the universe giving me a signal?I think we were very ordinary on the mound and at the plate. JZ may have given up only two runs but he never seemed in control of a single at bat. His two strikeouts, 10 base runners, and solid contact on outs will say the same thing. Hitters got a little unlucky towards the end but they should have taken some advantage of those two errors by Reynolds. Of course they did not.
- DWS - Jun 23, 2012 at 5:18 AM
The Nat's will be in first another day, and you know that the bats will not be silent two days running. Calm down people. Curious to see the SF blogs the year they won. Sigh.
- rabbit34 - Jun 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM
Reality is yes, the Nats will be in first place for another day….and more. But, reality is with a team that strikes out 10 times a game, has five starters batting less than .235, and the DH batting .211, they won't be in any playoff this year! Is Matt Stairs the batting coach??? Carpenter say sooo often, what a great day a pitcher is having against us. Really?!! I wonder why that is?! Every pitcher looks like Cy Young pitching against the Nats. Reality, by the end of July we will no longer be in first place. Hi MicheleS.
- Tim - Jun 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Game of inches. Two inches higher of Zim's line drive over the glove of JJ Hardy and we're celebrating instead of licking our wounds. That's baseball. We can't and we won't win every game.I would like to see a lot more patience in our "patiently aggressive" batting strategy. 4-pitch innings is something that's allowing the pitchers we face to have good outings.Go EJax! GYFNG!
- Tim - Jun 23, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Flores' line drive, not Zim's.
- natsfan1a - Jun 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Didn't watch much of the game what with the "rain" delayed late start (yawn), my husband's wanting to watch something else (I can has the clicker?), and the joint broadcast (ick). Won't see tonight's game as we'll be at the P-Nats (Rollie Fingers appearance – yay), but I did set the DVR for the broadcast. Is it a bad thing when you're glad that the game is on Fox instead of MASN?Anyhoo, was looking at some P-Nats news and found this piece on Mark DeRosa. Again, my sympathies on his loss.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Here is an article that expresses my sentiments about JZ in more detail (warning–typos and grammar errors).jordan-zimmermann-and-the-art-of-pitchinghttp://www.citizensofnatstown.com/home/2012/6/23/jordan-zimmermann-and-the-art-of-pitching.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook\Mark, you might want to add Citizens of Natstown to your blogroll.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Don't know if I will go up to B'mo tonight, but if I do it will be ticketless. Can anyone point me to where the scalpers are, and are they honest?(I have never had a problem with the 1/2 Street guys, buying or selling.)
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:26 PM
J Zim did his job and how any one can criticize him is stunning!! I was looking back to the 100 loss season batting averages… this team individually has the WORST averages in the 8 seasons in DC! that is scary. I'm sorrry, I am done with R Zim, he is hurting his club and last night was atrocious!
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Every player in this lineup,owes JZim and apology for their lack of effort at the plate, swinging at the first pitch, etc… RZim needs to sit, move Lombo to third, anything, get him out of the lineup.
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:31 PM
how the hell can we get only 5 hits against this club???
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:33 PM
10 game road trip, I hope we at least get 1 in Baltimore, I doubt it
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:35 PM
DC press is too nice to Zim, if this was NY, I bet Zim would have taken himself out a week ago.
- Gonat - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:42 PM
mick said… Every player in this lineup,owes JZim and apology for their lack of effort at the plate, swinging at the first pitch, etc… RZim needs to sit, move Lombo to third, anything, get him out of the lineup. June 23, 2012 9:28 AM ____________________________Kevin Youkilis was just benched in Boston in favor of the Rookie Middlebrooks. I don't think Zim needs to be benched, just moved down in the order BUT it won't happen. Davey won't move him.Zim will get hits if he puts them in play as he has had some grounders find holes. Where are the smashed line drives to the outfield?
- Gonat - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM
phil dunton said… Harper slumping big time. June 22, 2012 10:12 PM ______________________________You know the old saying that hitting is contagious? As some one said yesterday "ineptitude" is becoming contagious. I was at the game and couldn't tell what was what from my vantage point. It looked like with Zim hitting behind him that he was being thrown pitches to chase.
- Gonat - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Another note is that there were thousands of Nats fans and absolutely nothing to cheer about. The highlight was how well JZim pitched outside of the Reynolds HR. Can't win without run support.
- NatsLady - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM
Someone asked why does every pitcher look like Cy Young candidate against the Nats. It's because they are!No offense is going to get much against the Nats pitching (best in MLB) and D (arguably best in NL, maybe in MLB). In other words, the Nats are not going to give games away, they can shut down the most potent offenses.So, every opposing pitcher knows he can't give up runs. Period. His offense won't get them back.Remember how we said that lack of hitting puts pressure on our pitchers? Well, look at it from the opponents' point of view. Our pitching/defense puts pressure on their pitchers, and every one of them comes in determined to be on the top of his game. It gets tougher, not easier, when you are at the top of the heap, especially with good clubs who have good pitchers. You can bet they study heat maps, especially on Harper, RZ, Morse and ALR. Those guys all have weaknesses and good pitchers will go right after them.Bottom line is, our great pitching is forcing other teams to up their pitching.
- MicheleS - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Mick.. The second Hammels (o's pitcher) left Coors Field all his breaking balls got better. He is a good pitcher, now granted that does NOT excuse the lack of production from our offense. But he is a good pitcher.Gonat, not sure if you follow Kilgore on twitter after one of Zim's at bats, he tweeted that it has to be the shoulder. Last night Zim was again taking the blame for his piss poor offense – so you know he is frustrated (I still think he is hurt). the fact that Davey said he was considering dropping him in the order but hasn't tells you that has been a topic of discussion and davey is trying to show confidence in Zim. If it doesn't start to turn around, I think Davey will relent and move him down.Now onto a new game and a better day for our Nats.Also, Ian's comments about how it will all work out show's true leadership. I really think Ian is blossoming under Davey.
- MicheleS - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Gonat.. that explains why there was not much crowd noise last night at the game.. Were the O's fans into it? I guess I just didn't hear them.
- Gonat - Jun 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Yes, Zim is due a 3 hit game with some HRs. I support Zim. I want him to do well. I know some are ready to pounce once Zim has a good game with "I told you so". Problem is everyday he does nothing in the 3 hole is costing this team. His last 2 hit game was 2 weeks ago. His last XBH was 2 weeks ago.
- MicheleS - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM
gonat.. I won't say "I Told You so" but I will jump for joy when Zim starts hitting. I expect the "I Told you so" will happen if he gets moved down in the order or is put on the DL. So let's hope he starts hitting.
- mick - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Gonat… how far down the lineup do you move Zim and what if that does not help? Is he hurt and if so, why don't the Nats come clean?
- Feel Wood - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:40 PM
NatsLady said… Don't know if I will go up to B'mo tonight, but if I do it will be ticketless. Can anyone point me to where the scalpers are, and are they honest?In Baltimore they have a legal and sanctioned scalping area near one of the stadium gates. Buy from there. Any other scalpers you encounter will be quite shady. Buying from one of them might result in an arrest – of the scalper for sure, and maybe of the buyer too. Why chance it?
- baseballswami - Jun 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Mick. Jzim gets lots of positive attention from outside of dc. Last night he could have put a zero up there and someone would have dissed him for giving up a hit. By the way, I don't see SS or Gio pitching as many innings or putting up ones or zeroes. They seem to get a pass — and just enough offense for a W. I hope the second half equalizes for him. It's the offense, people.


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I think Mattel already knows how they go into this
If you look at the pictures below, you can see that Laser Light Skeletor and New Adventures Skeletor are nearly identical. So my idea is that Mattel releases this figure as one version, but he comes with a translucent red hand and a normal hand, two different Havok staffs (or just different heads for the staff), maybe two different chest plates, and a hooded head and a helmeted head.
Can someone PM me the US number for Matty? I want to talk to someone who might has a clue of what is going on.
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Good suggestion for Mattel...I think that's a good idea .....these two version of skeletor are my favorite figures I look forward to see into motuc line .
I think Mattel already knows how they go into this
There are a lot of differences:
- STAFFS - NA Havok VS Translucent Havok
- HEADS - Removable Helmet VS Hood
- FACES - Different sculpts and paints
- ARMOR - Red with Skulls VS Golden with Circuits
- WAIST - Black VS Golden
Im sure 4H will highlight the differences even more, making Laser Light like a sinester alien and NA Skeletor more like a cyborg.
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Yeah, I have a feeling these two are gona get mixed...which is okay; I just hope that they have a primary focus on NA Skeletor. I wouldn't mind most of the details coming from NA, while adding homages to LL Skelly in the optional red hand, hooded head, and perhaps an extra translucent red Havok Staff - emphasis on extra. His awesome NA stuff just HAS to be there. I'm eagerly awaiting a new sculpt of that staff!
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(Hilarious... I've been suggesting this for over a year and no one ever responded lol)
Yes - its a perfect combo. They can reuse Horde Prime's hands on this variant (especially because the right hand is removable on Horde Prome as well).
They can also use Preternia Disguise He-Man's hooded head for the Laser Light Skeletor head, by replacing the face plate.
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This topic has been brought up several times before. But, I don't think these Skeletor variants are that similar. I'd prefer they be 2 separate releases - just like the He-Man equivalents.
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definately worth mixing these.
The "differences" are about as important as how they are realizing the NA figures already. Good parts re-use and completely acceptable.
I would see basically only two heads and two stave heads (or whole staves is fine).
This is a perfect example where if they did choose to go in this direction, and someone complained about it, I would think that perhaps they were still not willing to accept what we already have known for years now. Parts re-use, and classicizing.
This totally works. It's such a good idea I'm almost certain it wont happen. But Mattel always impresses me.
Frankly I'm certain that these figures looking so much alike was completely intentional. Either the sculpters made a play to get us used to the NA skeletor, or more likely the NA skeletor was made to look like the most recent incarnation of Vintage Skeletor.
Isn't that what we're doing with Snake MAA?
Seriously though, It's a NICE Idea, but It COULD Allow Mattel to go too lazy and make an incomplete/half-assed LL Skeletor/NA Skeletor and force you to mix and match with the spare Skeletor head you might have (After Demo Man) to make your LL Skeletor.
Then again I'm interested in 2 LP He-Man figs if they give him the He-Mullet to mix and match with He-Man to make MY ideal He-Man...
I like the idea, but I fear the execution!
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thats what i want. have both be one figure.
How is that picture still even viewable? I removed it from my site when I put up the better version.
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An interesting possibility. One thing to remember though is that the "Laser Light" version of NA Skeletor was only for the first few episodes. I certainly wouldn't mind a NA Skeletor with this design, but I'd also like to have him as he appeared in most of the series.
Perhaps in the style Bubble Power She-Ra, a NA Skeletor could have his traditional skull chest appearance in the figure, but Laser Light Skeletor could come with a few accessories to modify your own perfect New Adventures Skeletor.
I'm not really excited for either of these variants...so killin two birds with one Stonedar would be fine by me for this! Makes the variant much more acceptable to those that don't really care about these variants (like me) as well as makes it a worthwhile variant unlike say...Snake Man-At-Arms.
I like the idea of combining the two.
But I like SAMAA.
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I couldn't agree more with this thread. I definitely don't want 2 figures that are so similar. I'm surprised this thread hasn't picked up more steam. Where are all the variant haters?
I agree, kill two birds with one stone.
Are there any fans who are held to getting Laser Light Skeley (Who could be a NA Skeley repaint?)
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I definitely want this to happen. Especially since there are no "light up features" in MOTUC, I think it would be ridiculous to offer both versions. They are way to similar to justify 2 versions. This to me is a perfect way for Mattel to combine MOTU with NA in a streamlined fashion.
I have always felt that the NA He-Man and Skeletor were simple variations of the Laser MOTU versions.
I will be extremely ticked off if Mattel makes both versions as separate figures. IMO that would be a "taken for the ass" situation. They can easily provide extra accessories for people to create both versions. In fact, they could even sell more because some people would buy 2 figures to create both.
I agree, make a combination of the best parts of the two to make NA Skeletor...Any future weapons packs can include the translucent red staff (variants have less tooling and accessories). I'm all for the NA Skeletor and also DoD Skelly even more !!
I'm not really that fussed on this version of NA Skeletor, I'd want his second NA appearance, that's the form he was mostly seen as, he was only in the above form in 6 episodes and the second appearance in the remaining 59.
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I know that there is a Battle Blade Skeletor thread but this is for just for NA Skeletor, The way he looks in the begining of the NA Heman series. I have to say the way he looks at the end of the Second Ultimate Battleground, is the best representation of this version of Skeletor, NO EYEBALLS. His transformed Havoc staff looks amazing as well, which should be one of his accessories, as well as GRRRRRR. GRRRR must be included with NA Skeletor, no questions asked!
I'd prefer separate releases for LL and NA Skeletor. The Four Horsemen can easily detail these guys into separate and awesome figures IMO. However, when it comes to NA Skeletor, I think they should use the Vykron method - release a buck with several weapons, armor pieces, shin pieces, arm attachments, and in this case three heads. The only thing I'd change from how Mattel released Vykron is to include three bucks so fans can display all three versions at once.


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The email starts out as if it is from a Wendy's employee named Joshua Williams.
Mr. Williams may or may not really exist, but the union created a video featuring a person claiming to be this Williams fellow, so maybe he's real and maybe he isn't. But that isn't the obvious lie. The obvious lie is in the email's very first paragraph. The SEIU has been trying to unionize the fast food industry.
Last year, the CEO of Wendy's took home $16.5 billion dollars while I barely scraped by on $16,000.
The email then goes on to suggest that the fast food industry needs to be unionized so that… oh, I don't know … maybe so that guys like Mr. Williams can be the ones to take home "$16.5 billion dollars," or something? Yeah, we all understand that a burger flipper takes exactly the same skills as the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation. It's just the same, of course.
But let's look at the claim of this "Mr. Williams," if he really exists.
I sure seems a bit crazy that a fast food CEO "took home" $16.5 billion dollars! I mean, some whole countries don't make so much money. Why, it's an outrage.
But, wait. $16.5 billion dollars! Really??
No, not even close.
In the Forbes list of American CEOs, the current Wendy's chief, Emily J. Brolick, is listed with a salary of $338,462 annually and a total compensation package of $4.6 million. Not even a tiny bit close to the lie that the SEIU tried to pass off on its members and potential members. (The AP reported on it here)
Brolick has only been onboard for a short time, so maybe "Joshua Williams" meant the previous CEO? Well, let's look.
Former Wendy's CEO Roland Smith left the company in 2011. Before he did he "took home" slightly less than $16.5 billion. Instead, Mr. Smith "took home" a $11.4 million in severance pay. In 2010 he made a paltry $4.9 million.
Gee, that seems a tad less than "$16.5 billion," doesn't it?
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re: Gerrity would trade Anderson for Biyombo Posted by GynoSandberg on 11/10 at 12:23 pm to brmark70816 quote: There isn't a big deal. Just people reacting to a dumb tweet. Suggesting he'd trade Anderson or Gordon for Biyambo is outlandish, though. They are 23 and 24 year old players who have proven to be good NBA players. Biyambo hasnt proven shite and could be the next Adonal Foyle Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Lester Earl on 11/10 at 12:44 pm to brmark70816 quote: Biyombo is so good, he plays 16MPG on the worst team in the league This post was edited on 11/10 at 12:45 pm Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Markie812 on 11/10 at 2:08 pm to Lester Earl Anderson was a huge pickup in the offseason and the exact type of player the hornets needed for how they want the team to look in the future. We are trying to build like the spurs and having a big who can hit the outside shot is critical. This rebuild is important for the future and the players needed have to fit the system. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by death valley driver on 11/10 at 2:18 pm to Markie812 Let's trade our best shooter for a defensive specialist Reply Back to Top |
Posted by THRILLHO on 11/10 at 2:21 pm to death valley driver Yeah, the last thing we need to do is trade away offense for defense. Anderson should be even better once Gordon comes back and takes some pressure off of him, since right now teams know he's our #1 option. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by death valley driver on 11/10 at 2:39 pm to THRILLHO Think about our outside shooting options if we traded Anderson for biyombo. There ARE none. Has to be a troll but no way gerrity is THAT advancedReply Back to Top |
Posted by brmark70816 on 11/10 at 2:45 pm to GynoSandberg quote: Anderson is over 4 years older than Biyombo and makes almost 3 times more. Most NBA believe that Biyombo will become an Ibaka or Varejao type of player. I like Anderson, but he is a specialist that is only a semi-starter for some reason. Anderson is a much better fit for the Hornets, but for alot of people Biyombo is the safer bet with the better future. It's all projection though, but that's what writers do. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by 42 on 11/10 at 3:16 pm to brmark70816 The only thing I'll add to the discussion at this point is it's not "his" site. I'm not sure what was meant, but he is not "the owner" or "the boss" of Hornets247. Joe makes his own decisions, and others make their own. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: There is not "site opinion." The people are individuals who pool their efforts to get things done they can't do alone. That's it. If people want to attached their own interpretation on thing or talk about how perception is reality, I'll read about it and consider it (see the twitter changes), but the individuality of the contributors is the core of the site, point blank. Reply Back to Top |
Anderson is borderline our best player right now. Davis Anderson ...the rest Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Lester Earl on 11/10 at 8:55 pm to 42 No ones said hornets247. He said he was the owner of hornets report. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Lester Earl on 11/10 at 8:59 pm to brmark70816 quote: Sorry cant agree. He hasn't showed shite as an NBA player. Anderson is proven, and still young. This is stupid Reply Back to Top |
Posted by GynoSandberg on 11/10 at 9:06 pm to brmark70816 quote: Biyambo was the youngest guy in the NBA last season. Anderson is 4 years older and he's proven to be a valuable NBA player. He does make more, rightfully so. quote: Right. So was Tyrus Thomas and Hilton Armstrong. Point is Biyambo hasn't done squat yet and to assume he's going to be some great player is silly. quote: Specialist? The dude averages 8 rpg and is one of the best offensive rebounders in the league. All that on top of being a guy who can knock down the 3 ball and guard/play 3 positions. Not to mention a great FT shooter and an all around great teammate. quote: Ok, Joe. You are right, my man Reply Back to Top |
Posted by NIH on 11/10 at 9:06 pm to Lester Earl this is typical of the basketball nerds who jack off to draft express and real gm.Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Fleur de Diable on 11/10 at 9:28 pm to brmark70816 quote: But we already have a player who will be blocking shots and rebounding at the rates of the aforementioned players.... and our guy actually has an offensive game to go along with it. His name is Anthony Davis. Getting Biyombo would almost be redundant. Also, 24 is sooooo old. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by 42 on 11/10 at 9:39 pm to Lester Earl quote: I was just clarifying this from above: --------- I appreciate the work that Joe and all the guys at 247 do. Unlike the TP, they care about the team. They bust their asses and are trying to create a pro basketball community in New Orleans from the ground up. No easy task at all. Here's my problem: Gerrity has positioned his website and himself as the authority on Hornets basketball. Whether he is the interview expert or not, posting nonsense only hurts the Hornets community. How many people follow him for "insights" such as this? --------- I would say that it's more likely that someone feel Hornets247 is some authority on basketball as opposed to Hornets report given that one site produces articles under and ESPN banner and the other does not. I would add that I do not think Hornets247 is an authority on anything. I think it's a place for passionate people to learn, work, and share the fruits of their labors. The body of work should stand on its own, for good or ill. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by GynoSandberg on 11/10 at 10:04 pm to 42 quote: Too bad the whole gang doesn't adopt this way of thinking Reply Back to Top |
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets on 11/10 at 11:21 pm to brmark70816 quote: No shite. Anderson is a proven commodity with borderline all-star production. quote: this is absurd. Biyombo has potential but he isn't near the caliber rebounder/shot blocker as Varejao or ibaka. Seriously he doesn't even get starter minutes with the bobcats. quote: Did you seriously just say Biyombo is a safer bet than Anderson? There is literally not a sane person on earth who agrees with that. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by duyp on 11/10 at 11:45 pm to LSUSaintsHornets I'm pretty sure smith can do better than biyombo if they logged in the same minutes. I love our big guys, we just need to do better on our guard defense. Pretty sure when EG come back, our defrnse would be up there.Reply Back to Top |
Posted by brmark70816 on 11/11 at 2:27 am to LSUSaintsHornets quote: This is a reach. Anderson had a great year last year and he should be a solid player. But he isn't going to start for the Hornets (barring injury) and will be a role player. For some reason everybody has lost objectivity when it comes to Anderson's trade value. Luckily you don't have to look too far to find it. Anderson was traded about 3 months ago for Ayon straight up. That is the value that the league put on him. quote: I'm not huge on Biyombo either, but it's his 2nd year and he's really young/raw. People in the league put alot of value on potential, especially on young teams. Varejao and Ibaka didn't break out until after their 2nd year. It takes time. quote: No, I said its a league perspective. I don't think either is a safe bet. I know that Anderson is a better fit for the Hornets though. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by 42 on 11/11 at 2:37 am to brmark70816 quote: This is a woeful analysis. Restricted free agent Ryan Anderson, who was not in Orlando's plans, was traded in a cap-clearing deal, via sign-and-trade. That's like saying Dwight's value is the garbage Orlando got . . . no . . . they are getting a higher draft pick and cap space, and what they do with those they HOPE is worth it. Sound familiar? Reply Back to Top Refresh |
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Start here, at the beginning Browse thumbnail images of the Virtual Tour with links to each specific spot Or, go back to the top of this page Go back to the USNA Virtual Tours Introduction page.
Learn more about Fern Valley.
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About Me
20 years working as a test engineer designing software and hardware and test systems. Lately I've been having fun with SW QA, Control System Design, and SCADA which is bringing me full circle as the job involves a lot of scripting in a UNIX/Linux environment where I cut my teeth circa 1988. Yeah, I'm old.
I am afraid of clowns. Not really, but being in the same hotel as a furry convention does make me a little nervous.
Electronic Design
Complete System Designs - Car Lot Monitoring System w/ RF, Fingerprint Recognition, and Static Accelerometers, Ozone Water Treatment System, GPS Data Logger for Agricultural Applications, PLC HVAC Controller and Interface for Mine trucks, Touch Screen System for Photocopier, Ignition System, Diesel Injector Test Stand, Speed/Odometer Conversion Module, Vacuum Truck Rev. Controller, Hydraulic Boom Controller.
Test systems for Mobile Devices, Data Radios, Base Station Transceivers, Amplifiers, Blood Glucose meters, Wireless Insulin Delivery, in-flight entertainment, redundant power supplies, satellite and terrestrial set top boxes, personal computers, servers, monitors, photo copiers, NAS, GPS, security, and surveillance systems.
Software Design
Programming - ASM, Pascal, HP Basic, Borland C, GCC, Visual C++, Visual Basic, Delphi, Java, C#, .Net, Testpoint, TestStand, LabWindows CVI, Keil uVision, CCS C, MPLAB, Eclipse.
Targets - MC8051, MC6800, MC6805, MC68000, HC11, Z80, 80x86, MSP430, LPC2148, Microchip series, ARM series.
Platforms - Windows, Amiga, PSP, HP Unix, Digital Vax, Linux, Trilogi PLC, Android.
Notable Projects
GPS Data Logger - Based on Microchip 16F84 and CCS C compiler. Decoded JRC GPS binary data into human readable format. Simple user interface design using a rotary encoder, 3 buttons, and backlit 16x20 LCD. Data was stored in an I2C eeprom by bit banging through general purpose I/O. This is used to identify location of weed patches in a field and to create a map for selective herbicide application.
HVAC Controller - Implemented the Trilogi PLC using ladder logic, basic, and a PID loop. User interface was another 16x20 LCD, and an array of buttons for setting current temperature and cooling modes.
Lots of stuff I will fill in here as we go...
Lots of stuff I will fill in here as we go...
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