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Ok, answer to my comments here.
Creator of ZFS, Jeff Bonwick, said that Linux scales bad. Many Unix people (including Kebabbert) say that Linux scales bad.
Linux supporters say that Linux scales excellent, they say Linux scales to 1.000s of cores. So what is the deal, does Linux scale bad or what?
The thing is, Linux scales excellent on HPC servers (a big cluster, a bunch of PCs sitting on a fast network). Everybody say this, including Unix people. No one has denied that Linux scales excellent on a cluster. It is well known that most of super computers run Linux. And those large super computers with 1000s of cores, are always a big cluster. Google runs Linux on a cluster of 900.000 servers.
The famous Linux SGI Altix server with 1000s of cores is such a HPC clustered server running a single Linux kernel image. This SGI Altix server has many thousands of cores:
http://www.hpcprojects.com/products/...product_id=941Support for up to 16TB of global shared memory in a single system image enables Altix UV to remain highly efficient at scale for applications ranging from in-memory databases to a diverse set of data and compute-intensive HPC applications.
CESCA, the Catalonia Supercomputing Centre, has chosen the SGI Altix UV 1000 for its HPC system
Here we have another Linux HPC server. It has 4.096 up to 8.192 cores and runs a single Linux image, just as the SGI Altix server:
A programmer writes about this server:The vSMP hypervisor that glues systems together is not for every workload, but on workloads where there is a lot of message passing between server nodes financial modeling, supercomputing, data analytics, and similar parallel workloads. Shai Fultheim, the company's founder and chief executive officer, says ScaleMP has over 300 customers now. "We focused on HPC as the low-hanging fruit,"
Thus, we see that these servers are just HPC servers. And we if look at the workload benchmarks for instance, the SGI Altix server they are all parallell benchmarks. Clustered workloads.I tried running a nicely parallel shared memory workload (75% efficiency on 24 cores in a 4 socket opteron box) on a 64 core ScaleMP box with 8 2-socket boards linked by infiniband. Result: horrible. It might look like a shared memory, but access to off-board bits has huge latency.
However, let us talk about SMP servers. SMP servers are basically, a single big fat server that has up to 64 cpus, weighs 1.000kg and costs many millions of USD. For instance, the IBM Mainframe z10 has 64 cpus. The newest IBM z196 Mainframe has 24 cpus. The biggest IBM Unix server, the P795 has 32 cpus. The earlier IBM P595 for the TPC-C world record costed 35 million USD list price. The biggest HP-UX server Superdome has 32 cpus or so. The biggest Solaris server has today 64 cpus.
Why dont IBM just insert another 64 cpus and reclaim all world records from Oracle? Or insert another 128 cpus? Or even 512 cpus? Or insert 1024 cpus? No, it is not possible. There are big scalability problems on as many as 64 cpus when you use a SMP server.
On these kind of SMP servers, Linux scales bad. The biggest Linux SMP servers today have 8 cpus, which are the normal x86 servers that for instance Oracle/HP sells. On a SMP server, Linux have severe problems to scale. The reason is explained by Ext4 creator Ted Tso:
...Ext4 was always designed for the common case Linux workloads/hardware, and for a long time, 48 cores/CPUs and large RAID arrays were in the category of exotic, expensive hardware, and indeed, for much of the ext2/3 development time, most of the ext2/3 developers didnt even have access to such hardware. One of the main reasons why I am working on scalability to 32-64 nodes is because such 32 cores/socket will become available Real Soon Now...
We also see the SAP benchmarks. Linux used slightly faster CPUs, and slightly faster DIMM memory sticks, and still Solaris got 23% higher score. The Linux cpu utilization was 87% which is quite bad on 48 cores. Solaris had 99% cpu utilization on 48 cores, because Solaris is targeted for big SMP servers. Solaris uses the cores better, and that is the reason Solaris got higher benchmarks.
Linux, 48 core, AMD Opteron 2.8 GHz
download.sap.com/download.epd?context=40E2D9D5E00EEF7CCDB0588464276 DE2F0B2EC7F6C1CB666ECFCA652F4AD1B4C
Solaris, 48 core, AMD Opteron 2.6GHz
Solaris used 256 GB RAM, and Linux used 128 GB RAM. The reason is because if Linux HP server wants to use 256 GB RAM, then Linux must use slower DRAM memory sticks. So HP chose fast DRAM memory sticks which had lower storage capacity. But SAP benchmarks require only 48GB RAM or so, so it is not important if a server uses 128GB or 256GB or 512GB RAM.
There dont exist big SMP Linux servers on the market for sale. Thus, the Linux kernel developers have no hardware to develop on, just as Ted Tso explained.
Thus, Linux scales excellent on clusters HPC servers. But Linux dont scale too well on SMP servers. Thus, Bonwick is right when he says that Linux scales bad on SMP servers. There are no big SMP Linux servers for sale on the market, there are no 16 cpu Linux servers, nor 24 cpu servers.
There are Linux SMP servers: 4, 6, 8 cpu servers and then there are Linux HPC servers: 4096 core servers or more. But where are the 32 cpu Linux SMP servers? No one sells them. Very difficult to make. Big scalability problems. You need to rewrite the OS, and build specialized hardware that costs millions of USD.
Ok, answer to my comments here.
the most people can not make a different between file-system performance and kernel performance.
Solaris do have the most advance file-system and the most best implementation of this file-system.
If you only benchmark single and raw kernel functions linux beat solaris.
Linux beat all other Operating systems in this way.
your "SAP" benchmark is more complex and its also a file-system benchmark.
BTRFS is designed to compete with ZFS but its not ready yet for example there is no checkdisk right now.
Linux is ready to compete with ZFS with BTRFS in a year or zwo.
again and again and again you don't get the point.
you just don't get it.. its not the solaris kernel vs the linux kernel its only ZFS vs ext4.
and then you show us a benchmark with a file-system bottle neck "SAP"
but you don't get it. any benchmark with a file-system bottle neck are invalid in testing the speed of a kernel!
drive your solaris on a fat32 file-system and you will cry!
but it doesn't matter they work on BTRFS and they work on EXT4.
and in the future solaris will lose on this part I'm sure.
and then you get nice "SAP" benchmarks on linux to.
Kebabbert, you appear to be quite confused when it comes to terminology, and hence your posts on multiprocessor scalability tends to read like complete nonsense. You always state that you "just want to learn and be correct", so let me try to clear things up for you before we even get into the discussion of performance or scaling numbers.
First, you seem to think that HPC and SMP are comparable and opposing terms. They are not - SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processing) describes a specific architecture for multiprocessor systems. HPC (High Performance Computing) on the other hand is a _usage scenario_ for large multiprocessor systems. HPC can be done on SMP systems, on distributed clusters or recently via GPGPU- it all depends on the specific HPC task.
Also, "SMP" in and of itself is today a somewhat "fuzzy" term, since there are barely any modern server system on the market nowadays that really fit the hard "SMP" criteria. The large "SMP" systems are almost all NUMA designs.
In any case, the distinction you're trying to make when you mistakenly contrast "HPC" vs. "SMP" is really between _shared memory multiprocessor systems_ versus _distributed memory multiprocessor systems_.
The sytems that you like to refer to as "large SMP" are shared memory systems. The "cluster of small systems on a fast network" is a distributed memory system. And then, thanks to the wonders of hypervisors and hardware virtualization, we now have "hybrid" systems like ScaleMP, which essentially creates a virtual shared memory system on top of a distributed memory cluster. In these systems, the "Single OS Image" is really a virtual machine, and the "shared memory" is "faked" via a software layer in the hypervisor. These virtual shared memory systems would theoretically be able to run applications written for shared memory systems, but as shown in the link in your post won't perform well since essentially they will be like a NUMA machine with an absolutely ATROCIOUS R:L NUMA factor. On top of that, cache coherency will have to be done by _software_. I don't even like to think about the performance implications of that...
Now, once we have these distinctions cleared up, let's just lay down some basic facts:
- The SGI Altix UV and Altix 4000/3000 systems are NOT distributed memory systems, they are shared memory systems. They are the same "class" of multiprocessor servers as what you (Kebabbert) would refer to as "large enterprise SMP systems", such as the HP SuperDome, Oracle T & M-series enterprise servers, etc.
- The fact that the Altix UV systems add processor nodes in blade format doesn't change fact 1 since what the blades plug into is not a network, but a NUMA interconnect - the equivalent to this in the current Oracle servers would be the Jupiter interconnect used for the crossbars. I've seen some people argue that the M9000 isn't NUMA, since it's a crossbar architecture, but as you can see straight from the
- The relatively recent Altix ICE systems ARE clusters. These did not exist until 2010 - every large multiprocessor system sold by SGI prior to Altix ICE has been a shared memory NUMA system.
- Even a single AMD Opteron 6100-series CPU contains two NUMA nodes, which really underlines just how clouded the line between SMP and NUMA systems is these days.
Now some notes on the above - I've seen it argued in a few similar discussions to this that the M9000 is not a NUMA system, and Sun/Oracle likes to present it as such, and this is not as dishonest as it might initially seem. In the vast majority of NUMA systems, each CPU or CPU node has its own local memory with it's own local memory controller, and CPUs from other nodes will need to "traverse" that CPU's memory controller to access the remote memory. The M9000 uses a crossbar architecture that differs from this layout, and which would make at least each CPU board "non-numa" since each CPU has an "equal" distance to memory. BUT - the boards then connect to a system crossbar, and while very very quick, there IS a NUMA factor for cross-CPU-board memory access, making the system NUMA after all. However the NUMA factor is apparently so low that NUMA optimizations are not always beneficial;ref - http://kevinclosson.wordpress.com/20...-gives-part-ii ). Perhaps they should have called this beast FloraServer and marketed it with the "I Can't Believe It's Not SMP!" slogan
Anyway, now that that's out of the way, let's at least touch on some of the other of your misconceptions that seems to have grown out of this lack of basic understanding of different multiprocessor architectures.
1. "No large Linux SMP systems" - maybe technically true since there aren't any large "true" SMP systems today at all. Even the "big" commodity boxes from Dell, HP and IBM are NUMA systems, since both the Opteron and the Westmere EX are NUMA designs in multi-socket configurations.
2. But obviously, the biggest shared memory multiprocessor systems sold today are, in fact, "Linux servers".
3. Item 2. has been true since 2006, when SGI's Origin 3000 series of NUMA machines were discontinued, and the Altix systems became officially supported in 1024 CPU configurations.
4. SGI has always been WAY ahead of SUN when it comes to massive shared memory multiprocessor systems:
First SGI SMP server was launched in 1988 and supported up to 8 CPUs. Sun did not launch its first SMP server until 1991, and only did 4-way SMP at the time.
In 1993, SGI launched a 36-way SMP server. SUN was at 20-way max.
In 1996, SGI introduced their first NUMA systems, the Origin 2000, available in up to 128-way configurations that year. Sun introduced the E10000, a 64-way server.
In 2000 when the Origin 2000 was superseded by the Origin 3000, the max configuration was 512 CPUs. SUN's biggest box was still the E10k.
In 2001 the Origin 3000 scaled to 512 CPUs (it did so from the get-go), and Sun introduced the R15k - maxing out at 106 CPUs, still less than SGI's initial Origin 2000 offering in 1996.
In 2003 SGI announced its first Linux-based large scale Itanium Based NUMA systems, the Altix 3000 series. The inital max supported configuration was "Only" 64 CPUs, and SUN had the R25k, with 72 CPUs and 144 "threads". While SGI was way ahead of SUN on hardware scaling, there's also no question that Solaris was ahead of Linux at this point. Nonetheless - already back in 2003, there was a large scale multiprocessor server with 64 CPUs being sold. And...
In 2006 when the Origin 3000 series was discontinued, the Altix 4000 had already been introduced and scaled to 512 CPUs. SUN's biggest was the M9000 which at the time topped out at 128 real cores, or the 25k with it's 72 cores and 144 threads.
So as you can see, SGI had plenty of experience at making large scale shared memory multiprocessing and SMP systems longer than SUN, and SGI had all of this knowledge already in-house when they went to work at making Linux scale well on huge number of CPUs.
I'll get into the whole "but how WELL does Linux vs. Solaris scale on large shared memory multiprocessor systems" in a later post - I think this is TL;DRish enough.
Needless to say, from a kernel standpoint a cluster is very different from a single system image machine.
Arguably, by virtue of having a single kernel image and hardware provided cache coherency, it's quite a stretch to call it a cluster. Of course, like all big machines, the NUMA factor is by necessity quite big.The famous Linux SGI Altix server with 1000s of cores is such a HPC clustered server running a single Linux kernel image. This SGI Altix server has many thousands of cores:
So a workload that gets only 75% efficiency on 24 cores/4S is slow when running on a system with cache coherency provided by a virtualization layer rather than hw and connected with IB is somehow NOT bleeting obvious? SheeshHere we have another Linux HPC server. It has 4.096 up to 8.192 cores and runs a single Linux image, just as the SGI Altix server:
A programmer writes about this server:
I tried running a nicely parallel shared memory workload (75% efficiency on 24 cores in a 4 socket opteron box) on a 64 core ScaleMP box with 8 2-socket boards linked by infiniband. Result: horrible. It might look like a shared memory, but access to off-board bits has huge latency.
As opposed to Solaris which can magically parallelize non-parallel workloads? Duh..Thus, we see that these servers are just HPC servers. And we if look at the workload benchmarks for instance, the SGI Altix server they are all parallell benchmarks. Clustered workloads.
Of course, in order to utilize parallel HW to any non-trivial extent, a workload must itself have parallelism. The OS kernel can, at best, avoid imposing further scalability bottlenecks.
Lets. If you want to play pedantic word games, SMP as in SYMMETRIC multi-processing, died a long time ago due to limits imposed by physics. "SMP" machines today are essentially all CC-NUMA. Just like the SGI Altix. Everybody realized that the alternative to CC-NUMA isn't UMA (=SMP), but rather USMA (uniformly SLOW memory access); hence nobody sane does it anymore.However, let us talk about SMP servers.
No, this is wrong. It's not about "SMP servers" vs. "HPC servers". It's more about which kind of workloads the OS has been tuned for. The Linux VM subsystem has seen extensive scalability work in order to run (mostly) HPC style workloads on gigantic CC-NUMA machines. OTOH, database workloads are very different, and there hasn't been as much interest in scalability work that would benefit these kinds of workloads (although not too long ago a big bunch of "VFS scalability" work was integrated into the mainline kernel, so this situation is changing). For various reasons, the proprietary Unix vendors have had different priorities.Thus, Linux scales excellent on clusters HPC servers. But Linux dont scale too well on SMP servers.
These benchmarks are not bottle necked by filesystem. One of the reasons they have lot of RAM is to cache a lot. Have you heard about Disk Cache?
You talk about "ZFS being the fastest filesystem", that is not true. ZFS is the most _advanced and secure_ filesystem, but ZFS is actually quite slow. The reason is that ZFS protects your data, and does checksum calculations all the time, and burn lot of CPU to do that. If you do a MD5 or SHA-256 on every block, then everything will be slow, yes? Have you done a MD5 checksum on a file? It takes time, yes?
Ext4 and other filesystems do not protect your data, and skips calculations and are very fast on few disks. As Ext4 creator Ted Tso explains:
Originally Posted by Ted Tso
Here is another cheat that Linux developers are doing, to win benchmarks:
"This is really scary. I wonder how many developers knew about it especially when coding for Linux when data safety was paramount. Sometimes it feels that some Linux developers are coding to win benchmarks and do not necessarily care about data safety, correctness and standards like POSIX."
One person said that when he does a XFS fsck of 16TB data, it takes 20 minutes or so. That is extremely quick. ZFS does a check on 16TB for many hours. Thus, XFS is much faster. But, if XFS does a fsck check of 16TB in 20 minutes, it means XFS checks 13.000MB/sec. That is not possible on a 16TB small array with 8 disks, because one typical disk give 100MB/sec. The only conclusion is that XFS does not check all the data, only some of the data. XFS fsck skips lot of controls of data, that is the only way that XFS can reach 13GB/Sec on 8 disks. Thus, XFS is fast, but not safe.
A Linux user writes:
Now ZFS have been improved, so it does not burn as many cpu cycles for a simple copy, but still ZFS burns lot of cpu cycles because of data protection calculations.ZFS uses ...loads of CPU: If you have more than one CPU, expect to dedicate 1 CPU to ZFS, when your programs do IO on ZFS! If you have a single CPU, expect 95% CPU spent for ZFS when copying. (This disadvantage is due to internal compression, bookkeeping, checksum and error correction of the ZFS code. It cannot be evaded
There are data protection calculations all the time, on every block. The cpu burns lot of cycles to check that all data is correct. If you do a SHA-256 checksum on every block that is read, it does burn CPU cycles, I hope you know how slow checksum calculations are?
ZFS trades CPU cycles for peace of mind. Every block is checksummed after it arrives from the disk (or network or whatever).
One thing Jeff Bonwick's post doesn't go into, however, is the actual cost in CPU cycles of all this checksumming....is it well suited to more traditional desktop CPUs with one or two cores? How much CPU overhead is acceptable for a desktop file system driver?
My only regret is that I have but one CPU core to give for my data...
Sure, on many disks ZFS is faster, because it scales better on 128 disks and more. Solaris has no problem of using many cpus, and 128 disks burn lot of cpu, but that load is distributed to many cpus. Thus, you need many disks and much cpu, for ZFS to be fastest.
On single disk/few disks I expect most filesystems to be faster. Because other filesystems dont burn lot of CPU cycles protecting your data. And if we look at the benchmarks, ZFS is never the fastest on single disk.
The point of using ZFS, is it protects your data. What do you prefer, a slow but reliable filesystem, or a fast but unsafe filesystem that might corrupt your data? All the fancy functionality of ZFS is secondary to me. I mean it. If ZFS lacked all those functions, I would still use ZFS because I want to protect my data. That is the most important to me. I dont mind if it is a bit slower, as long as it is safe.
Because of all this cpu cycles that ZFS burn as soon as there is a read of any block, Solaris is punished. Thus, Solaris benchmarks should actually be higher.
I have a job to do. It takes time to write these long posts
Again, I compare hardware that is roughly the same in performance. There is not a big difference in performance between the Solaris and Linux servers. When Phoronix does the benchmarks, Phoronix uses the same hardware. When TomsHardware does GPU benchmarks, the rest of the hardware stays the same: same cpu, same mobo, etc. What would people say if TomsHardware compared latest Nvidia + latest x86 cpu, vs an old ATI + Pentium 4? Would this be fair? No. But why do you keep doing this every time?
You have several times compared a 3x faster Linux server to an old Solaris server. Is this fair?
I have seen benchmarks of 32 cpu Solaris servers, but I would never compare such a Solaris server to a dual cpu Linux server and say "this proves Solaris is faster". That would be fanboyish of me to do. Biased. I want to learn and see which system is best. Therefore I want to have a objective comparison to learn. I do not want to see propaganda, I do not want to see 64 solaris servers vs a 2cpu Linux server - that would say nothing.
If we discuss Linux vs Solaris, then we need to have roughly similar hardware. I think it is strange that you dont agree on this? Do you think the latest NVidia vs an old ATI 4850 would be fair? Strange.
It is well known that different Vendors charge different prices. For instance, IBM charges 100s of millions USD for their Mainframes. And the IBM Mainframes are really slow cpu wise. An 8-socket x86 server is almost as fast as the biggest IBM Mainframe with 24 cpus.You compare more powerful hardware to much less expensive one with less amount of RAM, slower memory sticks and slower database. Is this fair? Even slowlaris that wastes CPU cycles, because of its bloat can win benchmark when it's running on much better hardware. That CPU utilization and much lower score just means slowlaris is bloated, don't you think? Do you have something to backup your claims regarding Westmere-EX giving Linux huge advantage on 40core machine compared to 48core one? As a single CPU comparison it mayb be three times faster in some things, but do you have something to backup your claims that it will still have such advantage on 40core machine?
The price is not important, neither the brand. What is important is that the hardware is similar. If both servers are using 6-core AMD Opteron 8435 cpus then that is good. You are comparing the worlds fastest x86 cpu vs an old AMD Opteron. The Intel cpu is 3x faster. Is this fair?
Regarding my claims that 10-core Westmere-EX gives a huge advantage, yes, I have already showed you the SAP benchmarks where Westmere-EX was 52% faster than an old 12-core AMD cpu. The older AMD Opteron 8435 has 6 cores, so it has less than half the performance compared to this 12 core AMD cpu. Thus, the Westmere-EX is 3x faster than the old AMD Opteron 8435 that Solaris used.
Do you really think it is fair to use 3x faster cpus in a comparison? The Westmere-EX was released this year, the server is brand new with new DRAM technique, etc. I really dont understand your concept of "fairness"? Why do I have to explain these things, as to a small child?
Regarding if Solaris is bloated or not, it does not matter, as long as Solaris are winning benchmarks with similar hardware. Regarding if Solaris is bloated, it is only in your mind, you have never showed any links to prove that. I have asked you many times. Regarding if Linux bloated, several Linux kernel developers have said that including Linus Torvalds. Unless you call Linus Torvalds a liar, he speaks true and Linux is bloated. But maybe Linus Torvalds and all other kernel devs are lying?
1) You have numerous times said that Solaris is bloated, but have never showed any links nor proof. I have many times asked for more information on this. So I would like you to prove this now. If you never have read this or heard this, why are you saying this? Are you FUDing? Earlier, you confessed you FUD. Is this just more of your FUD?
2) You have said many times that Oracle is killing Solaris, but you have never showed any links nor proof. So I would like you to prove this now, I have many times asked you. Go ahead. Or is this is also FUD?
3) You have said that Solaris is slow. You have compared 3x Linux faster servers to Solaris, that does not prove Solaris being slow. That only proves that your sense of fairness is strange. Go ahead and prove that Solaris is slow, on similar hardware. I have showed you links where Solaris holds several world records, being the fastest in the world on 4 cpu servers, and similar.
Que? HPC and SMP is not the same thing. If they were the same thing, they would not have different names. Here is more info on SMP servers, and HPC servers:Being HPC doesn't mean it's not SMP. Try again, because it's SMP system.
HPC servers are not general purpose servers, they are specialized and do only one thing well: calculations. Everything is ripped out from the Kernel.
SMP servers are general, and can be used for everything, including calculations.
HPC servers are similar to a Graphics Card, they are very fast on calculations but very weak on general purpose. CPUs are general purpose and can be used for calculations, but Graphics card are faster for calculations.
Thus, CPU can do everything, including calculations.
Thus, GPU can only do calculations and nothing else.
SMP can do everything, including HPC work.
HPC can only do calculations and nothing else.
Now you say again that Solaris is bloated. Again, prove this. You can not just make up negative things without any evidence, because the definition of FUD says:http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...ll_street.html
The wallstreet migration to Linux proves only Linux is fast enough and that's why they abandoned solaris. It's nothing amazing in this decision since Linux isn't bloated the way solaris is. It seems having 30% slower binaries is too much for critical workloads and that's why they replaced solaris. Damn shame.
4) In short, if you are just saying negative and false information to undermine Solaris, then you are FUDing. Let me ask you, are you FUDing now? Or are you telling the truth? If you are telling the truth, then you can show us links that prove you are speaking true.FUD is ... negative and dubious/false information ... to undermine the credibility
I spoke earlier of SMP servers, for instance IBMs large Unix servers with 32 cpus. And I mentioned Solaris with 64 cpus. And I mentioned HP Unix Superdome servers with 32-64 Itanium cpus.Just lies. You saw 64CPUs Big Tux.
I gave it you few times. Just google for Big Tux. It was 64CPUs (not cores) machine and afaik it has been upgraded lately.
Kebbabert's lying as usual. Like I said, Big Tux.
This Linux Big Tux server you speak of, is the HP Unix Superdome server just as I mentioned. HP have just recompiled Linux onto the HP Unix server. This Superdome server uses nPar, that is, partitioned into virtual servers consisting of 4 cpus and RAM, or 6 cpus, etc. Thus, you can carve up several small servers and run different OSes on this Superdome server. For instance, you can run Windows in one nPar, and at the same time run Linux in another nPar. Now, this Big Tux server you talk about, is Linux running in one nPar. This Linux nPar can at most have 16 cpus if you cluster two nPars 8 cpus.
Thus, you can not run Linux on this server and use 64 cpus. The biggest server you can run Linux on, is in nPar with a clustered 8-cpu nPar. The Linux installation on this Big Tux server is at most 16 cpus (using a cluster).
It is the same document, I think. At the bottom of page 5 and top of page 6, it says
"64 Processors / 128 Cores
Maximum nPars 16 (if you use two 8-nPar clusters)"
So again, there are no big SMP Linux servers on the market. Sure, you can take Linux and recompile it on a big Unix SMP server from Solaris, IBM or HP. But there are no big SMP Linux servers. And, frankly, I suspect that Linux running on 8 cpu nPar have problems using all 8 cpus well. Because this is a SMP server, and general purpose. As we have seen, Linux excels on doing only one simple task: calculations. But as soon as there are more complex work loads, then Linux has problems.
Thus Jeff Bonwick was right; Linux scales bad on SMP servers. But everyone agrees that Linux scales excellent on HPC servers.
You have many times said that I FUD. Prove it, or it is you that FUD about me.You FUD and lie like it was proven.
You reject this test. In this test 16 SSD disks are used, and ZFS is faster than BTRFS. You say it is not relevant because BTRFS is unstable. You ARE rejecting this test, dont you understand?I don't reject this test, because ZFS used many disk, but because it was tested against unstable btrfs.
"I dont reject this test, but this test is not relevant because BTRFS is unstable" - this is a rejection. Dont you understand what you are saying?
You also accepted test of unstable OpenSolaris vs Linux, in Phoronix benchmarks.
When Linux is unstable, you reject the tests. When Solaris is unstable, the test is good and fair. What is the matter with you Kraftman. Are you serious, or are you joking? You also compared several times 3x faster Linux servers to old Solaris servers? Kraftman? What is going on? Have you been joking all the time?
If I FUD, then quote me. Cite a post where I FUD and disprove my post by a link. If you can not, you are justI won't stop replying to your FUD. Will I get a price, too? Kebb, what do you think? Is there anyone so generous as sun was? ;>
about me, dont you agree?FUD is ... negative and dubious/false information ... to undermine the credibility
But I will tell you Kraftman, you have chance to prove you are not FUDing now. Prove every negative claim you said about Solaris and about me, and I will agree you are not FUDing. I have always showed links to every criticism on Linux I have cited from Linux kernel devs. I have not made up anything, I have not written "false" information - everything is true. Linus Torvalds did say Linux is bloated, I am not lying on this. Everything I said, I can show links to. Thus, I am not FUDing. So, go ahead Kraftman, prove that you are correct, and prove that I have been lying and FUDing - disprove me. Go ahead, show links.
Regarding a fine price, I dont know. If you call a dinner a fine price, then go ahead. But you have 4 questions to answer now. Question 1) 2) 3) and 4). I am waiting for your answers, Kraftman.


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Added to Fantasyland in October 2010 for the Tangled movie, at this character greet you can meet Rapunzel. It's unclear how long this meet-and-greet will last, as the tower with flowing hair bursting out of the structure has been removed, along with co-star Flynn Ryder, but for now Rapunzel is holding court adjacent to the Pinnoccio ride's exit.
Touring Tips
We've seen 45 to 60 minute posted wait times. Note that the meet-and-greet hasn't been opening until 10 a.m. and closes before dark, so check the Times Guide before you head into Fantasyland. Your best bet if the little 'uns are dying to see Rapunzel is to queue up 15-20 minutes before the experience opens.
Special Needs
Other Attractions in Fantasyland
- Alice in Wonderland
- Casey Jr. Circus Train
- Dumbo the Flying Elephant
- it's a small world
- King Arthur Carrousel
- Mad Tea Party
- Matterhorn Bobsleds
- Mickey and the Magical Map
- Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
- Pearly Band
- Peter Pan's Flight
- Pinocchio's Daring Journey
- Pixie Hollow
- Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough
- Snow White's Scary Adventures
- Storybook Land Canal Boats
- Storytelling at Royal Theatre
- The Royal Hall
- The Royal Swing Big Band Ball
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Our Rating |
Location | Fantasyland |
Opening Date | October 15, 2010 |
Closing Date | October 28, 2013 |
Duration | 5 minutes |
Scope and scale | Minor Attraction |
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I put this in a clear story foyer and was worried that it might look too small in the space. I was also worried that the chain might not be long enough. However, I took a chance on it and I'm glad I did. It works very well in the space. The only thing I don't like is that the 3 bulbs on the bottom are the skinny chandelier bulbs and the rest are all standard bulbs. Even though I got all the same brand of bulbs, the three on the bottom give off a more golden light while the rest give off a more true white light that I prefer. However, I put the fixture on a dimmer switch and unless I have it all the way on, the difference in the light bulbs is barely noticeable. I'm just picky. By the way, I don't think it said anywhere in the description but the 3 bulbs at the bottom are 60 watt and, again, are the small base chandelier type. The other 5 bulbs are standard bulbs maximum 100 watt. So, this fixture gives off a lot of light. That's another reason I put it on a dimmer switch.
The size, quality, and color of this chandelier is exactly as it is described in the product information. The installation was easy as the directions were very precise. Everything that was needed for the installation, except the tools, of course, were included in the package. There was no damage to any of the parts as the packaging was very good. I am very pleased with the results.
I like it, it all went together (by me) well enough. I removed current chandelier and replaced with this one, never turned off electricity (was careful to keep caps / replace caps on wire having only one off at a time), all went well. I did notice the manufacture date or ship date from factory or something indicated 2008, I guess it has been sitting in warehouse since 08, but still looks modern, works for me.
Its a beautiful light, size and color are both true to the picture/description. Shipping was fast and we used it in our foyer, beautiful lighting! Thanks overstock!
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In support of the Library & Learning Resources (LLR) mission, the Library engages in continual assessment of student learning outcomes. Twenty-first century academic librarianship centers around teaching students to become information competent.
Information Competency (IC) student learning outcomes were identified and have been embedded into the College's General Education Area B: Written Composition requirement. Library program level outcomes (PLOs) were identified and aligned with the College mission and General Education requirements. PLOs tie student learning outcomes to the services and resources the library provides. The library continually assesses its instructional component through IC SLOs as well as its resources and services and their impact on student learning. Additionally, Language Center SLOs were developed and are being assessed separately.
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Douglas L. FosheeChairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, Sallyport Investments, LLC |
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Mr. Douglas L. Foshee, also known as Doug, serves as the Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Sallyport Investments, LLC. He served as the President and Chief Executive Officer at El Paso Corporation from September 2003 to May 25, 2012 and also as its Chairman from May 2009 to May 25, 2012. He served as Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President of El Paso CGP Company L.L.C since 2004. Mr. Foshee served as Executive Vice President and Chief Operating ...
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Improve Performance and Get Better Traction with This Garden Tractor Weight
The Craftsman garden tractor weight adds approximately 58 pounds to each tire it's installed on. By adding weight to your tractor, you lower its center of gravity, improve traction and get better handling and stability. Each weight uses the QuikSecure locking system for fast, easy and secure attachment. This universal mounting system fits Craftsman and most other major brands of riding mowers. The added weight improves the overall performance of your tractor — especially when coupled with other lawn and garden tractor attachments. Chains are recommended when used with snow equipment (sold separately).
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- Chains are recommended when used with snow equipment (sold separately)
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- Comes with tire pressure gauge for easy monitoring
- Some assembly required
- Backed by a 90-day limited warranty
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Although information showed these were made for my tractor, these weights just did not fit! Must return :(
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The weights look GREAT , But you have to remove them to air up the tires and the Cam Locks are USELESS and the weights come loose.. BUT and again Its a BUT if you are at all handy with tools yoy Can deflate and break down the insde of the tire and drill ahole in the rim and INSTALL another Tire Valve . Leaving the old tire valve in place . I used the bolt on type that uses the smaller hole for less drilling. ALSO On the Cam bolt issue I replace the useless cam bolts with regular bolts and leave the weights in place now that i can add air from the insade of the tire. Be sure you get the correct wights for your wheel size and you will love them now that they don't loosen up . Might have given them a five star but the fact you have to remove them to air up and the cam bolts was a factor . Do the homework and there GRrrEAT
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Fast on and off. But have to remove to adjust tire pressure. Otherwise good.
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Follow the installation instructions carefully and you will have no problems. A deep 13 mm socket is needed to secure the hex nut to the back of the wheel Lots of muscle power is an asset when lifting the weights onto the lift pins. They weigh 60 pounds each. These weights are a big improvement in negotiating my steeply sloped yard. They are an absolute necessity in the use of my dozer blade.
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This product is a super investment. Very easy to install and to take off. Just remember to order 2 since they do not come as a pair.
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I highly recommend adding wheel weights to your Craftsman tractor or for that matter any yard or lawn tractor if you have any kind of slopping terrain. Certainly you need them for increased traction when using attachments, but also just for cutting grass on slopes where you have trouble with wheel spin either going up or going down hill. Make sure you get the right size or you will be taking them back as I did to get the correct size. They are easy to install and provide increased traction. I find them very helpful and wish I had purchased a set when I first got my Sears tractor a year ago. The U1110 is for large garden tractors with ten inch wheels, not my tractor which has an eight inch wheel. The salesman at the store got me the correct size.
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this little bugger when bought in two adds plenty of traction to your tractor i just bought a set 4 winter and allready on the slopes its amazing no spinning it just climbs right up and over anything the cat the dog anything wow they are amazing go buy a set 4 the added traction and buy this style of set with the speed change cause when u need air its simple to take off and add air well i used enough of ur time ill never have a tractor with out them summer winter any time they dont hurt the yard either thanks craftsman 4 another wonderful product.
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almost made the mistake of ordering wrong weights for my garden tractor but the store clerk was most helpful. got them with other attatchments and found them heavier than i thought but easy to mount and use. adds alot of traction to your tires when working ground engaging attatchments.
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MOOSE RUN TEE with a strikingly colorful print of the original Moose Run event poster for the 1981 edition of the race - and a long story….
The infamous Four Aces Moose Run, a cross-country race in the USA with a lot of history has been run since 1950. The first Moose Run was a benefit race organized by the Four Aces Motorcycle Club to honor its club member Mason Page, nickname 'Moose', who two weeks beforehand had been badly injured in a club race and died as a result. Over time, this annual charity race even had Steve McQueen on the start in 1962. (He finished 45th overall and third in the rookies' class and was apparently very satisfied with his result). Even today the Moose Run enjoys great popularity in the USA.
HERÓI RÁPIDO TEE: Eye-catching design and exceptional script – if no real profound story! Featuring a skull and instead of the usual English slogan, just for a change it is "Fast Hero" in Portuguese. Just to be different.
For those who like to be a bit edgy and stand out from the crowd.
Both T-shirts available in sizes: S-XXL
KTM just doesn't pimp motorcycles; it also pimps Christmas. With the "Pimp your X-mas" design Advent Calendar 2011 featuring a souped-up reindeer, opening a door every day is also an occasion to enjoy a delicious Milka chocolate treat.
For those who like something different!
Orange greetings from Santa
KTM gift ideas from the accessories collection:
For boyfriend, husband or dad: the high quality LEATHER WALLET in warm red/ brown tones and a discrete KTM Logo.
For music lovers: the KTM MINI SPEAKERS – however small they may be, they still have a surprisingly big and great sound. The black speakers with the KTM logo are compatible with all devices that have a 3.5 mm stereo plug. Comes with a rechargeable battery.
For the youngest mechanics in the family: The wooden KTM TOOL BOX. Made with orange tool handles and 15 stable parts, this is how junior can learn how to service a motorcycle at a very young age.


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Allerton Park & Retreat Center
Allerton Park was the private estate of Robert Henry Allerton, who donated it to the University of Illinois in 1946. It features 1,500 acres of woodlands, formal gardens and more than 100 sculptures. The park is open to the public for hiking, picnicking, cross-country skiing and leisurely garden strolls.
Scovill Zoo
This zoo overlooking Lake Decatur is home to animals from around the world, the Z.O.&O. Express train, the Endangered Species Carousel and the Zootique Gift Shop. Family events and activities are offered regularly.
Lake Decatur
The state's largest artificial body of water, Lake Decatur spans 2,800 acres, with 30 miles of shoreline offering recreational opportunities and wildlife vistas at lakeside parks and the city marina. Water sports include boating, fishing, sailing and jet skiing. While shoreline locations surrounding Nelson Park Marina offer miniature golf, dining, public gardens and picnic facilities.
Scovill House & Oriental Gardens
Serenity envelopes this intimate area, where visitors are welcomed by a Chinese Fu dog and flowering dogwoods, star magnolia, Japanese lilac, and rhododendron -- foliage native to the Orient. Originally commissioned by Guy and Rose Scovill in the 1920's and reconstructed in the 1980's, the gardens' soothing nature encompasses a small reflective point, sod bridge, and oriental sculptures, and surrounds a small cottage, which is available for gatherings and retreats.
Ferrel Clydesdale Farms
In operation since 1850, the farm features a blacksmith shop and Clydesdale horses. Chuck wagon cookouts are available.
Ultimate Play Space - Spray & Play Park
This 13-acre park allows kids to exercise their mind and body! Water park runs Memorial Day to Labor Day, weather permitting.
Weldon Springs State Park
Weldon Springs State Recreation Area is a 550-acre state park located near Clinton, Illinois. It centers on Salt Creek and the impoundment of a tributary, Weldon Springs, to form Weldon Spring Lake, a reservoir.
Anna Bethel Fisher Rock Garden
Created in 1927 from an old sand pit across the road from Lake Decatur, the city's oldest garden was extensively renovated in 1992. Its resurrected look features secluded paths leading through rocky terraces planted with unusual trees, and landscapes brimming with colorful perennials. Towering bald Cypress trees, planted in the 1920s, still reign over these delightful grounds.
Irwin Dairy
This family-run dairy is located on the edge of Logan County. Call to set up an appointment to visit.
Schaub Floral Display Center
Bursting with seasonal exhibits, our brightest newcomer nurtures flowering trees and scrubs such as weeping Japanese cherry, mock orange, forsythia, fragrant bulbs, and delightfully colored pansies. A perennial garden joins the array this summer, and the spring exhibit opens mid-March.
Shelbyville State Fish and Wildlife Area
A 6,400-acre wildlife area on the north end of Lake Shelbyville. Hunting for waterfowl, forest and upland game is popular. Boat access is provided to accommodate anglers and hunters.
Rock Springs Center for Environmental Discovery
Rock Springs Center is the largest park in the Macon County Conservation District properties with a total of 1,343 acres in the southwest area of Decatur, IL. The Sangamon River runs through Rock Springs and several small ponds dot the landscape. A wide range of terrain including forest, wetland, grassland, and restored Illinois prairie make Rock Springs a destination for nature lovers. Rock Springs is also home to a large nature center, a museum, a restored farmhouse, nearly nine miles of hiking trails, and a paved bike trail. Rock Springs is a favorite for families all year round. Rooms and pavilions are available for rent for meetings and events.
Project Playground II
No trip to Scovill Zoo would be complete without a visit to Project Playground II, a community-built, ADA-accessible playground in Scovill Park. This exciting play place includes a rock wall with fossils, hands-on music station, lots of slides, and a smooth rubber surface so kids of all ability levels can swing, slide, climb and play.
Mari-Mann Herb Farm
Spanning six rolling acres on bluffs overlooking the Sangamon River Walk, Mari-Mann Herb Farm is a potpourri of herb beds, wildflower fields and formal gardens.
Lincoln Trail Homestead State Memorial
This is the site of Abraham Lincoln's first Illinois home. Bisected by the Sangamon River, the site also features picnicking and hiking.
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Clinton Lake Marina
Services include boat rentals, beverages, bait, propane tank exchange, slip rentals and an on-site boat service department.
Decatur Park District
In addition to 39 neighborhood and community parks, our green spaces boast bike trails, picnic and camping facilities, gardens, golf courses, playgrounds, tennis courts, baseball diamonds, and swimming pools.
Macon County Conservation District
Our green spaces boast bike and walking trails, picnic and camping facilities, and gardens.
Pla-Mor Lanes
40 lanes, automatic scoring, ABC approved fluorescent lighting, seating for 200, free parking, restaurant and lounge.
Clinton Lake State Recreation Area
Enjoy 9,300 acres of great outdoor picnicking, hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, swimming, boating, water skiing. Fall foliage, winter offers ice fishing, snowmobiling on frozen lake. 308 campsites, Private marina.
Starship Billiards
14 tables, ample parking, arcades, dart games, restaurant, lounge, pro shop.
Spitler Woods State Natural Area
Two-thirds of the area is a dedicated nature preserve containing one of the few remaining stands of old-growth timber in Illinois. Two trails wind through the nature preserve, allowing the hiker to enjoy the unspoiled beauty of the forest.
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Rock Springs Nature Center
Home to a large visitor center, a museum, a restored farmhouse, nearly nine miles of hiking trails, and a paved bike trail.
Decatur Civic Center Arena
Ice skating available during fall/winter months. Call ahead for exact dates. Admission to the ice arena is $6 and skate rentals are $2. During the spring/summer months, the arena is used as venue for shows and fairs.
Cross Country Skiing at Rock Spring Center
Trails open whenever there is at least three inches of snow on the ground. Equipment rental available from 9am-2pm.
Decatur Gun Club
The origins and growth of the Decatur Gun Club parallel that of the clay target itself, and the games created to hone and test shotgun shooting skill. Shotgun sport shooting with live pigeons and later, glass balls existed in the U.S. from the early 1800's. But the first "clay pigeon" and "trap" to throw it were not developed until about 1880 by George Ligowsky. William Brett From Decatur was the second manufacturer of clay targets in the U.S., which he called the "Decatur Red Bird". Considered the oldest shotgun shooting sports club in Illinois, the Decatur Gun Club was founded soon after clay targets were invented. Chan Powers and Bert Hildebrandt were two of the mentors of the club, first located near East William Street Road and 22nd Street. In the early years, the club occupied sites in the Hess Park area, the Wyckles Corner area, the Macon County Fairgrounds, and an area west of the Fairgrounds before finding it's home of the past 61 years at the north end of Faries Park.
Red Tail Run Golf Club by Raymond Floyd
Designed by legendary hall of fame player, Raymond Floyd, this signature course features large, undulating greens, wide rolling fairways and native grasses. Located on Decatur's south side, the Park District's newest course is designed for players of all skill levels. From five tee locations and multiple angels, this signature Floyd course is truly designed for the championship to the novice golfer. Red Tail provides multiple tee locations from Championship to Junior, driving range with double tees, golf academy programming, and first tee learning center.
Friends Creek Conservation Area
18 miles north of Decatur on Route 48 near Argenta. The park feature three nature trails - the quarter-mile Friends Creek Trail, the 2-mile Woodland Trail, and the 2.5-mile Sun Trail. Each varies in difficulty and meanders through topographies ranging from open meadows and floodplains, to towering oak-hickory forests and undulating hillsides.
Griswold Conservation Area
Located 14 miles southwest of Decatur off Route 48 near Blue Mound. Hike the trail up the glacial kame to the observation deck for sweeping view of the prairie. Picnic facilities and playground.
Scovill Golf Club
Sometimes called the "shot-maker's" course, Scovill Golf Club is hilly and tree-lined. Golfers will enjoy the manicured fairways surrounded by natural plantings on Decatur's only Audubon sanctioned course. Scovill was designed by Tom Bendelow and redesigned by Dick Nugent. Scovill was named on one of the top 100 women-friendly course in the United States by Golf for Women. It is also the course most frequented by out-of-town golfers.
Friends Creek Regional Park
36 sites with pads, 20 extended-stay sites, 22 regular sites, electrical hook-ups, modern restrooms and showers. Reservations required.
Rock Springs/ Fairview Bikeway
The bikeway connects three area parks with a 3.2-mile, 10-foot wide, handicapped accessible trail for enjoyment by hikers and bikers alike. Tote along your favorite fixings to enjoy on the trail or designated picnic areas.
Forsyth Bike and Walking Path
The path begins at Forsyth Village Hall and winds around Forsyth Pkwy.
Little Galilee Christian Assembly
Little Galilee's 228 acres of land provide lots of room for kids to eat, sleep, learn, play and pray with dedicated Christian adults. There are a variety of camps and programs that for youth and adults which may include: Fine Arts or Sports camp, Equestrian Camp, Family Camp, Main Camp, Day Camp, Wilderness Camp and many more.
Green Acres Baitshop and Campground
Full line bait shop, with 50-site campground. Full hook-up, showers and toilets.
Sand Creek Conservation Area
Sand Creek is a 755-acre open space site located just south of Decatur off South Franklin Street. Hike the trails to the bluff overlooking Sand Creek for panoramic view of the countryside. Over 7.5 total miles with varying difficulty. Open to hikers & horseback riders.
Hickory Point Golf Course
Hickory Point is truly a course for both beginning and competitive golfers. The flat, wide fairways are perfect for learning, while long distances and the ever-present wind provide challenge for more experienced golfers. Hickory Point hosts the Tat $ Lyle Players Championship, the developmental tour of the LPGA. Designed by Roger Packard, the course opened in 1999, and is designed specifically for beginning and youth golfers. Hickory Point features a lighted driving range and special six-hole short course for beginning and youth golfers.
Fido Fields
2.5 acre fenced off leash park in Fairview Park. Register at the DISC, 1295 W. Wood St. or call 217-422-5911.
George's Skate Center
Fun skating for kids and adults alike! Great chance to get some healthy exercise with your friends and family, and even plan birthday parties for even greater fun!
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1949 Chevy Brake Lines - Flaring Up
Written by on November 9, 2009 Flaring And Bending Brake Tubing The Right WayWith all the major mechanical components installed in our '49 Chevy project Purple Pig, it's time to get down to all the little jobs that seemingly take forever in order to make the car road worthy. One of the larger of these "little" jobs is the time-consuming task of running brake lines. We already installed the ABS Power Brakes master cylinder (July '09 issue), and used a Straight Brake Line kit from Inline Tube to hook everything up. While Inline Tube offers pre-bent kits for many applications, they don't have patterns for every combination, and suggest using their Straight Line kits for custom setups like ours.
Of course making our own lines meant we had to cut, bend, and flare the brake tubing. Classic Performance Products (CPP), in addition to offering suspension and steering components, has a wide range of brake parts and systems, and sells a great Deluxe Dual Flare tool kit at a reasonable price, which we used for our installation. We also used a 16-inch stainless flexible rear brake hose from CPP to match the similar hoses that were supplied with our Chassis Engineering front suspension. With all our parts and tools gathered together, all that remained was to wait for a slot to use the Backyard Buddy rack at our Source Interlink Tech Center, get the Chevy up in the air, and start bendin' tube.
Before any bending could start though, once under the car we spent some time planning where we'd route the tubing. This is especially important in areas like the rear axle, where clearance for suspension components, as well as full suspension travel, comes into play. Keeping the brake lines away from the exhaust is also important, as well as planning where the exhaust will run if you're like us and haven't fitted the system yet. At the front, we re-installed the steering shafts and U-joints that we'd removed when we filled and painted the firewall, in order to ensure we routed the brake lines well away from the rotating shafts. Again, pre-planning where the exhausts would run from the headers meant we could plan the brake plumbing route.
If you've never flared brake tubing before, we'd suggest reading the instructions and making a few practice flares before tackling your lines, though the CCP flaring tool was simple to use. Work slowly and methodically, and once you get your head around how to bend the tube, and don't bend it the wrong way on long lines with many bends (believe us, it's very easy to do if you're not concentrating), forming perfectly fitting lines can be very satisfying.


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March is a fun month. There are Canadian geese in the air, basketball on television, water running everywhere and robins singing.March is also the month for the annual Pops Concert at the public school, and the annual St. Mary Carnival. The Pops Concert is March 25, and the Carnival is March 30.Fifty years ago, the Pops Concert was called the Turkey Dinner and Pops Concert. Everybody went. Hundreds and hundreds of people feasted on turkey dinner in the Dell Rapids Elementary School gym while the band sat on stage and played their best.They had a really great band when I was a kid, especially when they marched.Jim Boise was the band director back then. He ran a tight ship.Whenever there was a parade downtown, the band was there, decked out in fantastic uniforms complete with spats. There was a majorette, and Mr. Boise even wore a captain's hat as he marched beside them down the street.The band always stopped on their way down Main Street. They were flashy. The trombone players would lift their horns high and twirl them, and the drummers would lift and twirl their sticks between beats. The lines were always perfectly straight, and so were the diagonals.Mr. Boise was a Sousa kind of guy, in a way. He was great with marches. I can still hear them playing the Washington Post and the Colonel Bogey March – flawlessly.But there was something else about the band that I remember from those years, and that is the Band Calendar.The Band Calendar was Americana personified.The band fundraised every year with the calendar, in which people would pay to have their names - on their birthdays, anniversaries and any old occasion they wanted signified - for a very small fee. It was a great reference for neighbors and friends, and it's the reason why I still remember a few birthdays.Both local high schools have a band now. With the nice weather, they will be outside practicing again.Be sure to mark your calendars for the Pops Concert and the Carnival. Have some fun in March!
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Saint Thomas the Apostle, or 'Doubting Thomas,' as he was later called, came to India in 52 AD where he purportedly lived out the remainder of his days. The ... Read more
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In 1950 Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity (MOC) in the city of Kolkata (Calcutta) to lend aid to the poor, disabled and infirm. What started ... Read more
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inazuma wrote:Folks, I'm going to be a first time Daddy this year and want to buy my son wine from this year's vintage to give him as a present for his 21st Birthday. So I'll be waiting for a woot deal on a 2013 vintage. In any case, suggestions on what I should get that will keep that long (I'll have it in a wine cellar). I'm thinking something like this Jana, Corison, Ty Caton (TyTanium), a Wellington? Suggestions and comments from the gurus here would greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lots of general suggestions come to mind, but we won't have any idea what wines/grapes/regions will be age worthy until the end of year after harvest (and even then we probably won't know until a few years after. Regardless, your best bet is going with a larger format bottle of whatever you like (magnum of 3L) as the larger size usually slows the aging process.
Happy Birthday Scott!!! Hubby and I enjoyed meeting you and Jana after D&D...
mschauber wrote:I guess I'm the old one among us, mines being opened for my 50th b-day, but that's less than 12 years away Scott, think the 2003 & 2004 will hold up until the summer of 2023? PS: Any news on a '10 cathedral release date?
2010, Don't rush yourself. Let him release 08 and 09 before you start thinking about 2010!
PhilSandifer wrote:Wine isn't a general case. Aged wine is more valuable, [snip].
I didn't invoke the general case Phil, rpm did. Take that up with him. I'll also note that the vast majority of wine decreases in value over time (but not well built cabs!).
It's also not fair to compare to a previous Woot price.
I'm sorry, that's absolutely the most fare thing one could do with wine being sold here. Understanding why prices have gone up (Amazon being a blood sucking leech and this being older now) and down (sales tax is now charged separately) are all valid factors to consider. This is a great bottle of wine, and Scott and Jana are two of the nicest people you'll meet. But the QPR isn't so hot compared to previous offers of this same wine.
CAGrl wrote:I might have to call Jana too. I might be heading up that way for the Vincent Arroyo open house on May 4th. Any chance you will be around? We might want to drop by and say hello.
Should be around. Give me a call before you come by. cell is (removed by mod) Mod edit: send a PM with your phone #
rjquillin wrote:Pity that,'cause they really shine with some age on them. And agree on the '07. Really wish there were a few 750's or even a 375 to project when to pull corks on the mags and 3.0L Jana's. These may be something I never taste, but pass on the the kids and grands...
Only magnums and 3 liters of the 2007. We'll have to open one at the next RPM tour and see how it is aging.
Yes the 03 and 04 will hold up and a release date on the 2010 will depend on bottle shock after I bottle it. It is scheduled to be bottled this summer.
North316 wrote:2010, Don't rush yourself. Let him release 08 and 09 before you start thinking about 2010!
There won't be any 08 and 09. Didn't make enough to bottle. We did enjoy them out of the barrel.
I went with Corison Kronos magnums for my kids (the 2008 was just released so you'll be waiting a while for your little one). Also have a 3L of Scott's Syrah for my youngest.
ScottHarveyWines wrote:There won't be any 08 and 09. Didn't make enough to bottle. We did enjoy them out of the barrel.
ScottHarveyWines wrote:Only magnums and 3 liters of the 2007. We'll have to open one at the next RPM tour and see how it is aging.
You're on!
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More barrel tasting in the basement!
The next RPM tour? And RPM says, "You're on!" WOO-HOO! Can't wait. Thanks, RPM. Looking forward to it in...2014?
I've been away for awhile from the forums. Please, which forum do I follow so that I can get in on the next tour? Thanks!
Had to place another order since I just realized that 2005 is our wedding year. So shoot. Even hubby's in for trying it at 10, 15, 20, etc.
Jana Cathedral Special Library (2) Last wooter to woot:brettstr42 Last purchase:6 minutes ago Woot! Excited for my 2nd Cathedral. Still have a bottle from my first well cellared. Gonna have to pick out a nice filet and [s]Cuban[/s] Dominican cigar for the night I open one of these up. Good Times.
I'm really liking the sound of this. I'm in! When is Woopdedo gonna be taking deposits? How has this not sold out!?
Silver medal is great! My favorite wine we've ever made (actually, Scott made it for us) was our 1994 Sangiovese, and it got all silver medals. It was my favorite when it was released, and it was still my favorite some 14 years later when we served it at a winemaker dinner. And, that includes several of our wines that have earned best of show, gold and double-gold medals.
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