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by Deanna M. Neff, MPH
An aneurysm is an outpouching of a blood vessel wall. This can occur anywhere there are blood vessels, including in the brain. The bulging, blood-filled pocket can put pressure on parts of the brain, potentially causing symptoms. In addition, the blood vessel can rupture (hemorrhage). Early detection and diagnosis may help prevent severe or fatal complications in some patients. Many aneurysms go unnoticed for a lifetime and cause no symptoms.
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Aneurysms form in areas where the artery wall becomes thin or weak. Thinning artery walls and resulting aneurysms can be caused by a number of factors. Common causes include:
These factors increase your chance of developing a brain aneurysm. These risk factors also increase your chance of a rupture. Adults are more likely to develop an aneurysm than children. Females are at slightly higher risk. Tell your doctor if you have any of these risk factors:
If you have any of these symptoms, do not assume it is due to a brain aneurysm. These symptoms may be caused by other conditions. Tell your doctor if you have any of these:
Most aneurysms do not cause symptoms until they leak or rupture. A leaking or ruptured aneurysm may cause:
Your doctor will ask about your symptoms and medical history, and perform a physical exam. Tests may include the following:
Talk with your doctor about the best treatment plan for you. Other medical conditions; lifestyle factors; as well as the type, size, and location of the aneurysm will direct treatment. For a known aneurysm that is not leaking or ruptured, treatment options include the following:
Your doctor may need to monitor you to see if the aneurysm gets larger or begins to leak.
Medicines are not used to fix an aneurysm. Medicines may be used to help lower blood pressure, treat pain, or stop side effects of the aneurysm, like seizures.
During this procedure, a catheter is thread up to the aneurysm. Coils, a special liquid, or balloons are used to fill the aneurysm and stop circulation, causing it to clot. This may need to be done more than once.
Surgical options include microvascular clipping or occlusion.
In many cases, there is no known way to prevent an aneurysm from forming. To help reduce your chances of getting a brain aneurysm or having it burst, take the following steps:
The Brain Aneurysm Foundation
National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
Brain Injury Association of Alberta
Heart and Stroke Foundation Canada
Brain Aneurysm Foundation Information website. Available at: http://www.bafound.org/info/factors.php. Accessed May 10, 2010.
Cerebral Aneurysm. EBSCO DynaMed website. Available at: http://www.ebscohost.com/dynamed. Updated May 2011. Accessed May 29, 2011
Kirchheimer S. Subarachnoid hemorrhage. EBSCO Patient Education Reference Center. Available at: http://www.ebscohost.com/thisTopic.php?marketID=16&topicID=1034. Published March 1, 2010. Accessed April 26, 2010.
Mayo Clinic. Brain aneurysm. Mayo Clinic website. Available at: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/brain-aneurysm/DS00582. Accessed October 28, 2010.
National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke. Cerebral aneurysm fact sheet. National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke website. Available at: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cerebral_aneurysm/detail_cerebral_aneurysm.htm. Updated February 3, 2010. Accessed April 26, 2010.
Vlak M, Rinkel, Gabriel J, et al. Trigger factors and their attributable risk for rupture of intracranial aneurysms: a case-crossover study. Stroke. 2011 May 5.
Last reviewed March 2014 by Michael J. Fucci, DO
Please be aware that this information is provided to supplement the care provided by your physician. It is neither intended nor implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice. CALL YOUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER IMMEDIATELY IF YOU THINK YOU MAY HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider prior to starting any new treatment or with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
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Adding some comments to the partly fierceful debating and dialectic attack methods of some commentators:
1.Chinese economic expansion and political influence in SE Asia
is dramatically to be felt, particularly in Myanmar and Laos.
Political circles and also many concerned people are alarmed.
So, @Tocharian is not unright referring his statements and warnings.
2.In all Asean countries (except Singapore) wide spread reservation and resentments are to be felt against the Chinese, particularly in Indonesia and Malaysia. But more and more it is to be observed in Myanmar, Laos,Vietnam etc.
3.And gradually this phenomenon spreads over the Centres of
World Economies, incl. USA & Europa but also Africa where the Chinese get much raw materials from.
In the WORLD of TRAVEL Chinese and Israelis are the most disliked tourists, for their unproper behaviour..
So, what is on with the Chinese – or with the Rest of the World ?
Are the Chinese too ambitious and perhaps too arrogant (mainly based
on their recent success)? Or is the Rest of the World simply jealous ?
Even the "arrogant" Germans, in close relationship to the "arrogant" Chinese,are more and more disillusioned of their yellow business partners.
4.And referring BURMA BASHING by Islamic countries and "third parties":
There is no GENOZID of Muslims in Burma (except in the minds of overly affected Muslim faith brothers).
ISLAMIC STRATEGISTS who defend "certain interests" of the
BANGLADESHI ("Rohingya") ECONOMIC REFUGEES in Rakhine State/West Myanmar do not seldom use "certain tactics" in order to achieve their socio-political and economic goals.
Sound more like twisted propaganda to me and congratulation you are now on my /IGNORE LISTS.
I can see why Cambodia picked the China over the US. American dropped more bombs in Cambodia than they dropped in WW2. American supported Lon Nol to over throw the Cambodian government and later on supporting Pol Pot. Essentially they are creating a civil war which caused millions of people to die. That goes the same with Vietnam they are also help created Khmer Rouge. Hell, even the Thia supported the Khmer Rouge to prolong the civil war in Cambodia. Given the options to which side Cambodia are on, the answer is very clear. I like America too but the legacy they left behind in Cambodia has disappointed me very much. I'm sure most people in Cambodia feel the same way if they know the history.
ASEAN meeting is the RIGHT PLACE to SOLVE the south china sea issue------This is the PLACE where claimants CAN SEE each other EYES and GIVE their VIEWS-----UNIFIED ASEAN is the BACKBONE of this ORGANISATION--------LET NO OTHERS be INFLUENCE it DECISION----
asean MEETING IS THE right place TO solve THE SOUTH CHINA SEA ISSUE ???????tHIS IS THE place WHERE CLAIMANTS can see EACH OTHER eyes AND give THEIR views?????unified asean IS THE backbone OF THIS organisation??????????let no others BE influence IT decision?????
The collapse of ASEAN has implications beyond trade. ASEAN had the potential to become the forum through which regional territorial disputes are resolved.
The International Crisis Group: "a misstep by either China or Southeast Asian claimants can all too easily escalate the dispute to irreversible levels"
Why would the US get involved? Because the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979 requires, by law, that the US:
"maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan."
Any widespread hostility in the region, whether in relation to Taiwan or any other island group, is likely to involve Taiwan. China regards Taiwan as a renegade province and has vowed to re-unite it using any means necessary.
The Koreas, Japan, Vietnam, Philippines and India all have territorial disputes with China.
The US and China prefer to avoid a direct confrontation, but with so many actors competing for West Philippine Sea resources, the chances of miscalculation are very high.
For an example of such a miscalculation, read about the Tonkin Gulf Incident, which resulted in the Vietnam war
"West Philippine Sea resources"
You clearly chosed your side already by using this "West Philippine Sea" instead of "South China Sea" !!
The US has joint defense agreements with Singapore, Thailand, and the Philippines. The Taiwan Relations Act does not oblige the US to defend Taiwan, unlike how the US is treaty-obliged to defend the three countries mentioned earlier.
I'll be perfectly honest, I have never heard of that term before, took about a second for me to realize what you were talking about. I must admit, your comment felt so level-headed and unbiased until I encountered that term. How odd that a single word at the end of an otherwise sound paragraph is capable of changing one's perception so entirely.
Compared to the disputes in East Asia, South East Asians are definitely the level headed ones. The Filipinos and Vietnamese are not insane enough to make a trip the Spratly's unlike our the silly Japanese and Chinese.
But you Jew*sh defender dare to build many more houses for your immigrant in Gaza !
One fact that is often missed in these debates, perhaps due to the Burmese propaganda agents infiltrating these forums, is the fact that China, Vietnam, the Philippines, and certainly America are all responsible nations that value free trade, free business, free culture, free capitalism, and a free world in general. Sure countries often have their differences, but at the end of the day everyone is a global citizen and everyone benefits from the peace and stability of the world.
The "civilized and responsible" world (like 98% of it) have one true enemy, which is global terrorism and resulting genocides. Terrorism obviously brings no benefits to the world, and a terrorist's goal is to destabilize and distract the world while they conduct their own agendas, like genocide, quietly at home. The world must unite to fight against global terrorism consisting of the Burmese and their Al Qaeda puppets!
In fact the most famous Burmese in the world (discounting politicians), unlike every other country in the world, are not scientists, sports stars, business men, artists, or anyone of value. They are actually terrorists, and they have been terrorizing their neighbors such as Thailand for a very long time.
The division in the ASEAN countries has been caused by the US. The latter sees in the rise of the ASEAN countries a threat to the US and the other western countries. It is unfortunate that the western media is now trying to put the blame on China. This is hypocrisy. Hopefully the ASEAN countries will see the dirty game played by the US and will be able to maintain their unity.
*It would be totally wrong to say that it's US who is causing a drift among ASEAN nation. Territorial dispute between China and almost half of ASEAN nation has gained momentum only after 1991 . With China emerging a global economic power , flexing it's military muscles and USA the with more focused in Iraq officially withdraw from base in Philippines.
*Before 1991, there was disputes but it's not much articulated as most of these disputed island are inhabited and not much of use except for strategic and security purpose. However with discovery of oil and gas whole equation changed. Now every warring parties are emphatically y stressing their claim over the Parcel, Sprately, Scarborough .
* These nation stand no where if it came to military strength also countries like Philippines depend heavily on China for it's economy. Few months back, when China imposed restriction over it's tourist on visiting Philippines and banned banana import(reason given that some pest found), it hit Philippines economy and send strong message . Also China claim it's sovereignty Scarborough island which is near to Philippines as compared to China and logically also any sane nation would see that because of it's close proximity to Philippines, Philippines claim seems more strong.
Similarly in some case China claim looks stronger
*My point is that these nation by way of bilateral talk cannot hope to resolve the issue. They have to be at mercy of China to get a favorable settlement. It's actually involvement of USA that China is restraining itself. ASEAN has to come forward and address concern of it's member countries as most of them has territorial disputes with China. More important it's related to economy . No one would be interest to inhabit those island. Interest is in OIL and GAS.
*ASEAN nation should deal with China, USA and India more as a entity. ASEAN derived it's strength from it's member countries and member countries grievances should be sorted out
*Countries like Cambodia should try to be less dependent on China
as Myanmar is doing and should play constructive role in ASEAN
*It would be totally wrong to say that it's US who is causing a drift among ASEAN nation. Territorial dispute between China and almost half of ASEAN nation has gained momentum only after 1991 . With China emerging a global economic power , flexing it's military muscles and USA the with more focused in Iraq officially withdraw from it's base in Philippines.
*Before 1991, there was disputes but it's not much articulated as most of these disputed island are inhabited and not much of use except for strategic and security purpose. However with discovery of oil and gas whole equation changed. Now every warring parties are emphatically y stressing their claim over the Parcel, Sprately, Scarborough .
* These nation stand no where if it came to military strength also countries like Philippines depend heavily on China for it's economy. Few months back, when China imposed restriction over it's tourist on visiting Philippines and banned banana import(reason given that some pest found), it hit Philippines economy and send strong message . Also China claim it's sovereignty Scarborough island which is near to Philippines as compared to China and logically also any sane nation would see that because of it's close proximity to Philippines, Philippines claim seems more strong.
Similarly in some case China claim looks stronger
*My point is that these nation by way of bilateral talk cannot hope to resolve the issue. They have to be at mercy of China to get a favorable settlement. It's actually involvement of USA that China is restraining itself. ASEAN has to come forward and address concern of it's member countries as most of them has territorial disputes with China. More important it's related to economy . No one would be interest to inhabit those island. Interest is in OIL and GAS.
*ASEAN nation should deal with China, USA and India more as a entity. ASEAN derived it's strength from it's member countries and member countries grievances should be sorted out
*Countries like Cambodia should try to be less dependent on China
as Myanmar is doing and should play constructive role in ASEAN
It is over-simplified to judge the sovereignty of an island just by its distance to the 'mainland'. The other dimension is history: before 1990s, the Philippines did not include Scarborough island into its territory--you can check the map published before and its 1987 version of Constitution. It only started to claim the island when more oil/gas reserve found near the island. While the Chinese government has been consistent all along to include this island into its territory. Just lay out the facts for you to think your argument through.
* Well, if it's history then these island belong to Philippines as these island were under Spanish rule for 300 years when they ruled over Philippines. No doubt China has been claiming these island since 1949. But's not the time that should be the dimension. Other factors should also count. These lies well within maritime economic zone of Philippines according to UN convention
Pls check 'Treaty of Paris' 1898 and 'Treaty of Washington' 1900, it clearly stated what US has inherited from Spain (the Philippines islands) does not include Scarborough island.
In addition, since the Republic of China (the current PRC's predecessors) days, it has been part of China's territory. So the history is not on the Philippines' side.
From the UN convention and the law of the Sea point, I am afraid this would be an endless discussion, the spirit of this convention means to set rules to protect the environment/resources and the free passage of the sea lane, it never means to trample on existing territory of the claiming country. I believe this is why many disputes arise in the past few years.
Laos is a Chinese lackey, Cambodia is a Chinese stooge, "Mian-dian" is (or was?) a Chinese takeaway kitchen, Singapore is a Chinese money-laundromat (not just for Bo's wife!), so what are the roles for the other ASEAN countries in this Chinese chess game to dominate Southeast Asia? The Chinese have always viewed the periphery as populated by uncivilised barbarians and it is a mark of Chinese cultural superiority to pacify, civilise and sinicise these regions in China's image. The technique used nowadays to achieve these noble goals as mandated by the heavenly dragon is the so-called 2B-tactics (bribing and bullying) which is based on the underlying 2Y-strategy (Yuan and Y-chromosomes). The penetration is deep and ASEAN will be split apart.
How can the Americans counter the Chinese? With Lady Gaga or with Hillary Clinton? Perhaps the militant Muslims, rather than the Americans, might cause China more headaches down the road. The world is a lot more diverse than is seen from the Chinese point of view.
For those of you who are unaware of Burmese terrorists like tocharian, tocharian is just very very mad that his "most attractive" Burmese women are being stolen by East Asian and Caucasian men.
He thinks that East Asian (mainly Chinese in Burma because China borders Burma) and white men are "emasculating" the Burmese! (check his old posts)
Anyways, if I were a Burmese girl, I would go for the East Asian or white man any day over a racist genocide-loving Burmese terrorist like tocharian! (Larger weewee, more $$$, and less terrorist/racist!)
The world must unite to stop racist Burmese terrorism that aims to engulf the whole world! Save the Rohingyas, Karens, and Kachins by exterminating Burmese terrorists!
And don't worry, Mian Dian will be a Rohingya country in a few generations. Until that happens, it will be in the pockets of the Chinese. (Just ask Thein Sein, or even Suu Kyi!)
BTW it's funny how you mention Muslims when your Burmese terrorist people are committing genocide against Muslims in Myanmar.
Maybe the predominantly-Islamic Indonesia and Malaysia should team up with Bangladesh, India, China, and the USA to exterminate the genocide-loving racist Burmese?
Save the innocent Rohingyas today! End the Burmese-conducted genocides! End Burmese racism and terrorism today!
...it is a mark of Chinese cultural superiority to pacify, civilise and sinicise these regions in China's image...
If true, this has implications for the SEasian nations that have large ethnic-Chinese minorities: Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Burma. (Singapore has an ethnic-Chinese majority already).
Malaysia's policy is to favor it's Malay majority using methods that some consider unfair. There was inter-racial bloodshed in Malaysia as recently as 1969.
If China wants to "sinicise these regions in China's image" it would be logical for it to start by encouraging unrest. Such unrest could provide an excuse for China to send a "peace-keeping mission". Divide and conquer.
You should read terrorist tocharian's posts more closely. He is obsessed with Y chromosomes and emasculation.
I guess a Burmese girl that he was in love with chose a Chinese guy over him, lol! Love hurts I guess.
BTW it's not the Chinese who are conducting racist genocides in Southeast Asia. Actually I think the only group of people currently doing it are the Burmese, and they have been doing it for a very long time.
As "recently" as 1969? Well the French and Germans were shooting at each other as "recently as 1945."
1969 was a long time ago. The Burmese are conducting their various genocides against multiple ethnic minorities *today*, in the year 2012. (and they are not likely to stop anytime soon.)
Oh, and, since you like to talk about race so much:
1. Chinese people consist of democratic Taiwan and Singapore, both of which have very good relations with the US. In fact, you can travel to the US visa free with either a Taiwanese (starting from 2013) or Singaporean passport. Chinese people also occupy HK, which has very strong ties with American, British, and other Western governments and multinationals.
2. Burmese people consist of Barbaric Burma only. Burma suffers from US and Western sanctions, and these sanctions will not be lifted as long as your racist Burmese people continue with their very racist genocides against the ethnic minorities.
TBH it's really no wonder why the Burmese girls prefer Chinese guys over Burmese terrorists.
You said:
["If China wants to "sinicise these regions in China's image" it would be logical for it to start by encouraging unrest. Such unrest could provide an excuse for China to send a "peace-keeping mission". Divide and conquer"]
Thanks for pointing out the obvious Chinese Sun-Tzu strategy to split up ASEAN.
China has been "encouraging unrest", as you said, in the region for decades. For example, Burma's ethnic problems have a lot to do with China's strategy for the region. The United States Wa Army (UWSA) which is the largest insurgent group in Burma operating independently in Eastern Shan States is basically a PLA proxy, directly supported by China. There must be a lot of other examples like that all over Southeast Asia.
You said:
["Chinese people also occupy HK"]
Occupy? That's a good one! I thought the "occupiers" (the 99%) are want to bring down Wall Street and money laundromats like Hongkong and Singaporean banks!
It's very very funny how you are obsessed with the USWA because they are ethnically Chinese while most of your Burmese terrorist relatives are obsessed with the Rohingyas because they have dark skin.
I guess that all Burmese terrorists are racist one way or another.
Oh and..... American and Western sanctions won't be lifted on Burma until *every* ethnic minority's human rights are respected, including both the Wa and the Rohingya!
Ironic how you call for more discrimination against the minorities while begging for sanctions to be lifted at the same time, huh?
The USWA is the "largest" insurgent group in Myanmar?
I think not
It appears that the KLNA, KIO, and KIA cause a lot more problems for the Burmese military than the USWA. In fact the USWA seem to be drug dealers who keep to themselves.
"There must be a lot of other examples like that all over Southeast Asia."
Can you name some? If there are actually a lot of other examples across SEA, then surely you would be able to name a few others?
You obviously believe that everything is a Chinese conspiracy but you need to work a little harder trying to tie facts with that theory of your's!
Good to know that United Wa State Army (about 30,000 strong) is just a bunch of "ethnically Chinese drug dealers", according to some commentators here!
What about the Kokang Chinese?
Thanks for the link.
Here is what I found there about the Wa Army:
["Wa – The United Wa State Army (USWA), created after the fall of the Community Party Burma in 1989, is one of the country's most powerful ethnic armies and receives military resources, infrastructure and support from neighbouring China"]
Too bad the Karens and Kachins do not have outside support to prevent you Barbaric Burmese from murdering them, AMIRITE?
See I think that the world should unite and put an end to all of these various racist genocides committed by the Burmese.
Humanity is one large family after all, and if the Burmese don't want to be a part of this family (because they love murdering others!), then they should be ejected.
Hey tocharian, why is it that every time anyone who agrees with you is a 1-post account who essentially regurgitates your message? Why is it that every time one of your posts gets recommended, all of your posts gets recommended?
How many accounts do you have man?
"America is revving up its military engagement with Singapore"
As Kishore Mahbubani recently said, the collapse of ASEAN is a catastrophe for ASEAN's biggest supporter, Singapore.
Singapore is entirely dependent on international trade, and ASEAN was a free-trade block.
The collapse of ASEAN has put Singapore into play. It is the most strategically important country in the South China Sea, controlling the Western entrance to it, and the third of total world trade passing through the Malaka Straits. But Singapore's armed forces are untested, and cannot withstand a major shock.
Since the withdrawal from Empire of the British, Singapore has relied upon the US for military protection. Now that the defense environment in the South China Sea is deteriorating, and hostilities between the US and China look increasingly likely, Singapore invites yet more US forces to use it's territory.
This is like betting everything on black on the roulette wheel. The bet will pay off if the US wins, but if China wins the very existence of Singapore is in doubt.
Any fighting in the South China Sea will have Singapore as a primary objective, as it was during WW2. By betting on the US, Singapore risks being attacked and occupied by China.
If Singapore took a more nuanced stance, playing a neutral role (like Switzerland), it could bend to world events like a young sapling, and absorb the tides of history.
But by joining the US side, Singapore's fate is tied to that of a declining superpower. And China is much closer to Singapore than the US is.
Pussy Riot
Welcome to the forums!
"But by joining the US side, Singapore's fate is tied to that of a declining superpower. And China is much closer to Singapore than the US is."
First off, a country chooses to ally itself based on many reasons, not always racial and definitly not always geographical (otherwise Poland would be Russia's best friend). Singapore even with its authoritarian version of democracy has much more in common with the US than with China.
Secondly, you are operating under a false premise if you think that the US is a declining superpower. The US's global reach will always exceed China's. China is going to be an economic giant and a regional power, but not a global superpower.
The US's economic and demographic fundamentals are in a much stronger position than China's going forward.
The fact is that Singapore is not the only country in the region that is building closer military ties to the US so it is not singling itself out for special treatment by China should there be a conflict. Switzerland is a natural fortress to invasion, Singapore is not.
Singapore is mainly Chinese community,China needn't to occupy .On the contrary,if some countries want to invade Singapore,the countries are likely to get a China's military retaliation relentlessly.
But it is also understood as a little city-size country,Singapore need get more security from other powers including US.Neutrality is Singapore's best choice as one of famous world trade center,China and US will keep tacit understanding in many common interests.
Singapore will never be neutral, most countries in the world are not neutral. The only one that I can think of that is neutral is Switzerland.
China to be frank has never given a rat's ass about overseas Chinese who are not citizens. In fact, the last thing Singapore would want is China to get involved. Why, because of fears of rising the ire of Malaysia and Indonesia. When did Singapore switch over from the ROC to the PRC, it was in 1990. Why so late? Because they waited for Indonesia to reestablish ties with China. Malaysia had done so in the early 1970s.
What you said about the relation of China and Singapore has become history.Before 1970s,China still is in a very special time,it is superstitious in useless ideology, even isn't a member of the UN.China is very difficult to do something for protecting its oversea's interests because it is lack of enough resources such as military force etc.Certainly there are many other lessons. All in all,before 1970s,China was a very chaotic state.
But now,as you know,China can do something for its overseas interests,I don't believe somethings will repeat in information society,China government will give a lesson for them.The world have Changed very greatly since 1970s.
Singapore takes pride in its independence. It certainly doesn't want to be assimilated into the borg collective known as the PRC as some puppet province. Why would it want to be a Hong Kong that is downgraded behind Shanghai?
That is only prove that China is not aggressive at all. When not, they have many reasons to invade Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore, Thailand and the whole world. Chinese is everywhere in 5 continent like you Jewish!
If you read Chinese government policy toward overseas Chinese (Singaporeans) who are not citizens of the PRC/ROC, its very clear. What are Chinese overseas interest? Protecting every ethnic Chinese even those who are not citizens of the PRC, even in some remote backwater in Indonesia. I wish the PLA good luck in their efforts.
In fact the PRC rarely brings up the discrimination of Chinese Malaysians with the Malaysian government, unlike the Indian government and its attitude toward Indian Malaysians. China has enough difficulty to training to protect Chinese citizens in places like Africa. You are not the one dealing with the problem.
I disagree that hostilities between the U.S. and China are inevitable or even likely. Both sides understand that hostilities would be disastrous for everyone. Also, the U.S. doesn't have much at stake in the south China sea. It's not going to war for the sake of Vietnam or the Phillipines, though it may lend support to those nations.
The tactic of USA (contain China) is just to supress China rise (as slowly as possible!). So US does has stake in SEA, even a very important stragegy in Asia.
You are correct. John Mearsheimer, Professor of International Relations at Chicago University, as described in Wikipedia:
"Mearsheimer asserts that China's rise will be unpeaceful and that the US will seek to contain China and prevent it from achieving regional hegemony. He believes that China will attempt to dominate the Asia-Pacific region just as the U.S. dominates the western hemisphere. The motivation for doing so would be to gain a position of overwhelming security and superiority against its neighbours which it sees as potential challengers to its status. Additionally, he maintains that the US will attempt forming a balancing coalition that consists primarily of India, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Indonesia to counter the growing strength and power projection capabilities of China. He points to increased alliances and warming US-Vietnam and US-India relations as evidence of this.
He also asserts that Australia should be concerned with China's accretion of power because it will lead to an intense security competition between the China and the US. Arguing that China is implementing the militarily aggressive philosophy of the US naval strategist Alfred Thayer Mahan who argued for Sea control and decisive battle."
By design or coincidence, this article is undoubtedly a tool of the US policy in South China Sea, and not so subtly every bit against the interest of Asian nations.
It's no accident that all fronts of SCS and ASEAN have been relatively quiet for decades, until the US pronounced its "reentry" to Asia this year that it never really left.
While the US has been holding leash on Japan and South Korea dearly with troops, military bases and nuke enabled carrier groups and busy body building Guam, China has become the largest trading partner of ASEAN without so much of one single foot solider. China is also the largest trading partner to South Korea, Russia, Japan, and India to boot. It could not be more apparent that who wants peace and who wants to stir things up with some regional arms conflict or war in Asia.
As if that was not enough, one by one, ASEAN members are being coerced to take side or to hold joint naval exercises with the US in the Bush doctrine of "If you are not my friend, then you are my enemy". ASEAN nations whose GDP each is typically less than 1% of the US GDP stand little chance when confronted by the only superpower of the world, as Ms Clinton and her entourage making the rounds there.
With such intense media and diplomatic propaganda blitzkreig, does that mean Americans are evil? No, time and again, survey after survey, it shows the Chinese (in fact most Asians I suppose) are very fond of Americans despite of skewed and unfriendly US foreign policy.
But it does reveal that the US is getting a little desperate and unsure about itself, perhaps more so than SCS nations, and is anxious about its superpower status when nobody else is capable as well as interested to that position. Indeed, the US can keep that superpower status and let ASEAN nations live the way they wanted without middling, at the same time.
And small nations also have dignity and pride, and they are not about to give up their profitable trades in the region to trade for some questionable promises of "ally and TPP" except perhaps lip service in kind. Even for Philippines and Vietnam the common senses have returned.
On July 27, 2012, Vietnamese defense minister issued statement saying that Vietnamese will long remember and are "truly grateful" to big assistances and aids provided by China over the years, and that Vietnamese armed forces are seeking full range of friendship and cooperation with PLA. On that same date, the Philippines also issued statement promising no further provocation to China and that it will seek political, legal, and diplomatic means outside of military one to resolve territorial dispute. Diplomatic nicety may be, but they tell the prevailing mood.
Never a dull moment in foreign affairs? As the tension or mood in SCS seemingly subsides a little, Japan is now being used to poke old wounds in East China Sea and East Sea with China (Daioyutai Islands), Russia (South Kuril Islands) and even with US ally South Korea (Island in dispute), right around August 15th, the 67th anniversary of Japanese unconditional surrender. Right or wrong, that's how many years Japan has been force occupied and collared as a vassal state, up to the present.
Right or wrong, that's how things are stacked up in SCS. Any problem should be and will be resolved with wisdom of each member nation in Asia such as the Indonesian initiative, it can not be muscled through from the outside, not even with a superpower or two, IMO.
It's not the U.S. who claims all of the South China Sea to itself.
It's not U.S. warships that encroach on Philippine waters or U.S. fishing trawlers who fish in them.
It's not the U.S. who undermined ASEAN's ability to issue a communique for the first time in ASEAN's history.
It's not the U.S. who, following ASEAN's inability to issue a communique, became incalcitrant regarding SCS disputes.
It's not the U.S. actions that precipitated the naval arms races among the claimants to the SCS.
'While the US has been holding leash on Japan and South Korea dearly with troops, military bases and nuke enabled carrier groups and busy body building Guam, China has become the largest trading partner of ASEAN without so much of one single foot solider. China is also the largest trading partner to South Korea, Russia, Japan, and India to boot.
It could not be more apparent that who wants peace and who wants to stir things up with some regional arms conflict or war in Asia.'
it simply can not be more apparent and clearer than this.
'It's not the U.S. who claims all of the South China Sea to itself.'
=== of course not, the us has no business being there except passing through sea lanes there. nobody else claimed north atlantic seaboard off the us coast either.
'It's not U.S. warships that encroach on Philippine waters or U.S. fishing trawlers who fish in them.'
== then whose ship and submarine were there in the heat of the night? clearly you have not grasped the facts.
'It's not the U.S. who undermined ASEAN's ability to issue a communique for the first time in ASEAN's history.'
== how do you know that? hillary was not busy visiting there all over the places for nothing? Was she a tourist something?
'It's not the U.S. who, following ASEAN's inability to issue a communique, became incalcitrant regarding SCS disputes.'
== not sure what you mean by that.
'It's not the U.S. actions that precipitated the naval arms races among the claimants to the SCS.'
== like hell it 'did not'. it sent second hand warships to philippines, based new warship in singapore, held naval operations with vietnam, stationed troops in darwin (australia), even add F-22 squad at guam,...
But then again,
It is US warships that encroach on Chinese waters and Chinese fishing trawlers who fish in them.
It is the US who undermined ASEAN's ability to issue a communique by goading the Viets and Filipinos to be "too radical" and "too aggressive" for most of ASEAN's tastes.
It is the US who has always been incalcitrant regarding SCS disputes. In fact, everyone involved has been quite "incalcitrant" thus far. (There have been no compromises, even within ASEAN self. Just because Vietnam and the Philippines decided to put their squabbles "on hold" doesn't mean that their disagreements are gone and will not spring up in the future.)
It is the US's "shift to Asia" that precipitated the naval arms race in the SCS. Let's be frank here, if the US wasn't involved, then China wouldn't have anyone to "race" against.
Sure China causes a lot of shit SEA, but so does the US.
Have you looked at China's map of the South China Sea? Read the press reports about its incursions into Filipino waters? Heard about the purchase of Russian Kilo submarines by Vietnam in response to China's claims over the Paracels? Realized that Malaysia bought French Scorpene submarines, Singapore Swedish Archer submarines, and Indonesia Korean submarines in response?
How low of an opinion do you have of the intelligence of the people of Singapore, Vietnam, Brunei, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Thailand, let alone the Economist writers, that they can fall for what is clearly a U.S. ploy to get China to claim all of the South China Sea for herself?
uh, uh, please don't pin that on me. I love and respect the people of Singapore, Vietnam, Brunei, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Thailand, let alone the Economist writers. and my opinion is by no means lone opinion.
by the view expressed in your post, it's you who has little regard to 'intelligence of the people of Singapore, Vietnam, Brunei, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Thailand, let alone the Economist writers'. check.
Have you looked at Vietnam's or Philippines's map of the South China Sea? you also get similar conclusions and also are conflicting for each other.Similarly for Malaysia,Brunei with Vietnam and Philippine.
No sovereignty disputes between China and Thailand or Indonesia or Singapore.Certainly every country has the right to buy more military equipment. If Vietnam buy more weapons,Thailand also will, Malaysia will,Singapore will,Brunei will, Indonesia will……just as domino effect,even there aren't South China Sea problem or China's factors.
"ASEAN members are being coerced to take side"
Was Vietnam coerced into offering Cam Ranh Bay naval base to the US navy?
Was Singapore coerced into hosting four US littoral assault ships?
Was Australia coerced into hosting US marines?
Was Indonesia coerced into taking part in military exercises with Australia and Singapore?
Was Vietnam coerced into conducting joint naval patrols with India?
If you really believe the above, then your reality-distortion field is working fine.
All I know is he most likely speaks a SEA language, something I doubt you can do. The assumption is that just because you are Chinese you can understand SEA, you don't. Its you that have little regard for their intelligence. You basically view their actions through a Chinese lens.
Terima kasih.
"Right or wrong, that's how things are stacked up in SCS. Any problem should be and will be resolved with wisdom of each member nation in Asia such as the Indonesian initiative, it can not be muscled through from the outside, not even with a superpower or two, IMO."
Wisdom, hahah. The one who has been blamed by the key member nations of the ASEAN for belligerent behaviour has been apparently China, nobody mentioned the US. Strictly speaking "muscling through from the outside
" can be said of any Nation, including within Asia, which bullies others on questionable claims.
wait a minute, you made yourself a full time job here attacking chinese without ever identifying your own nationality so that they could not get back to you in kind. such cowardly tactics is unworthy.
I don't identify my nationality (and I am not chinese nationality) but I don't attack any nationality per se like you do. no? what about your 'you chinese', 'you indians'....stuff?
we have gone through this before, and as such I don't read your posts and no one asked you to read mine. it's my business what lens I use to view things albeit I am might proud to be pro china in my posts. come to think of it, I am pro india and pro america too. eat your heart out?
Regardless of your nationality, whether its Chinese or Martian, you don't understand SEA. And its clear you lack any commonsense.
Why do you assume that senjata has little regard for the " 'intelligence of the people of Singapore, Vietnam, Brunei, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Thailand, let alone the Economist writers'. check."
Its this type of attitude that many pro-China posters have is they can speak for all Asians, just like that arrogant little twit of a CCTV broadcaster.
Senjata by the way is the Malay/Indonesian word for weapon, and it originally comes from the Sanskrit word saüyatta, meaning conflict. Of course that is lost on people like you.
Never say NEVER!
China can change its policy to protect oversea Chinese if it fit its interest! But in order to do so, you need to be strong and present everywhere.
KOmmenses is not Chinese or Martian, but you are certainly a Jew*sh defender!
But again what can one expect a 197-years-old-stubborn-Zombie can imagine China can be changed!!
Don't forget to wash your bloody-spagetti-face! That you need to act as Heywood.
I did not know Jewish was a bad word, but to a 10 year old Neo-Nazi KMT supporting German Chinese it might be. If the Chinese government officials were as that stupid to protect ethnic Chinese who are not PRC citizens, then they deserve to have a 10 year old drug dealer to lead their country. I guess you will volunteer to serve the PLA to defend Chinese in PNG. Oh yeah, be careful, the natives have a nasty habit of eating people. I hope you don't end up as someone's appetizer.
Don't worry, no one is interested in your 197-years-bloody-spagetti-face-mask-Zombie!
Who can imagined you Jew*sh defender can fight back in Middle East and won. Such a small country became so powerful which every one hate in the M.E. And as a defender your are, even more hated bb posters.
You will not eaten by any Cannibalic tribe, but your meat will be ground into bloody-spagetti only. ERRRR
Further integration should move forward excluding the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
Right you are - just dump Cambodia, Burma and Laos; then get close with the US and let the confrontation with China come. IMO this is the perfect venue and issue to take down the Red regime.
First we should take down the US regime! Then we can talk about peace.
But of course most Americans (like at least 91% according to Pew Research) do not want to "take down" China or even its "red regime." Most people living in ASEAN do not either; they just want China to stop encroaching in their 200 mile EEZ off of their mainland.
If China were to shrink its "9 dotted line" to only waters near the center of the sea and outside of any waters 200 miles away from any coasts, and Vietnam and the Philippines give up their "extra" claims beyond their 200 mile EEZ, then literally every dispute in the sea would be resolved. A multilateral solution like this is by far the most likely to resolve these disputes.
But you as an individual, "MrRFox", wants to fight China to the death. So I suggest that you move to Myanmar, join one of Burma's various ethnic groups, and then marry then-ladyboy tocharian. (He will put on a nice dress for you.) This way, you'll have all the opportunities that you'll want to fight China until your death!
I mean you two are very old, and probably won't live much longer anyways, so you might as well strap a bomb on your chest now and murder-suicide-blow-up a Chinese person! Better some old fart like you do it than a younger Burmese terrorist; less to lose!
Well said, jae - made me smile.
--this is the perfect venue and issue to take down the Red regime--
Just like the Japanese thought SEAsia was the perfect venue to take down the British regime in 1942? Unfortunately the 'venue' we are talking about is SEAsia, and when elephants fight, the ants gets crushed.
ASEAN is not a serious organization.
If Indonesia can make Cambodian to die for any Vietnamese political claim,the former invader,the end of the world also will come.Considering the Indonesia recently in Rakhine event's political position and attitude,Burma's military government and ordinary Burmese also have nothing in common with Indonesia or Indonesian.
If Indonesia or Malaysia can help Myanmar relocate Rohingyas in Indonesia or Malaysia,the relationship between them will get better,not worse.
For Thailand,maybe,it will be more worried about Muslim separatists in its south which Indonesia or Malaysia can do somethings.
As to Lao,a landlocked country,the Philippines really can let Lao to be a an international fighter to die for Philippine territorial disputes with China,Malaysia or Vietnam,Indonesia? Why? Why a Lao must die for Philippines, a distant Catholic country?only for "ASEAN consensus"? The ASEAN is a magic wand?
Actually inside ASEAN including Indonesia,there are also a lot of territorial disputes for each other.
To my surprise,some people in the world still believe that ASEAN will become the next EU one day! In my viewpoint,it is only a regional economic organization.Indochina countries have a deeply Muslim phobia which have anything in common with Malay islands's countries,let alone the Philippines is a Catholic country.
In Southeast Asia,if there is a possibility of forming a little "EU",it will be a union of Thailand,Myanmar,Lao,Cambodia which based on similar race,culture and profound historical ties,they know well for each other.Indochina countries is an unique buddhist culture circle and entirely different with other countries in ASEAN.
Fundamentally speaking,different races,religions,cultures and lack of profound historical ties will lead anything,so-called another EU,to a daydream.for ordinary Burmese or Thai,Malay islands's Muslim belong to a distant strange world.
Now if ASEAN don't focus on economic cooperation issues,it will be very difficult for moving a single step forward,because some from Mars and the others from Venus.Indonesia or any other countries in Southeast Asia can do nothing if they want others give up the sovereignty,to obey an regional organization.Why Cambodia must agree with Vietnam's political claim? or Thailand must agree with Malaysia's? only for so-called "ASEAN consensus"?ASEAN is only a possibility of becoming economic organization,not political organization.
You got it all wrong. There is little Islamic phobia in Indochina, because there is very few Muslims in Indochina.
A little EU of Thailand, Myanmar and the Indochinese countries shows you have very little understanding of SEA. You got it backwards. The problem with mainland SEA (Thailand, Myanmar and Indochina) is they have a long history of fighting each other. There are more similarities between Malaysian vs Indonesian than with Thai vs Khmer. There is about 80% difference between Thai vs Cambodian, where as there is only 2% difference Malaysian and Indonesian language. Most Malays in Malaysia came from Indonesia about 100-300 years ago.
In fact prior to the mid 1990s, the only mainland SEA state that was in ASEAN was Thailand. In fact, Lee Kuan Yew told the Americans that Myanmar, Indochina should never have been allowed to enter ASEAN.
You misunderstand my comment,I don't deny the difference between Thai and Khmer.Bu the religious and cultural difference is more challenge for a Union in Southeast Asia.Muslims and non-muslims have nothing in common.As to war or internal conflicts,among EU,in their history,members of EU also have a lot of wars including WW I and WW II,or else,Turkey,Saudi Arabia also can join in EU.
How many Muslims in US,Norway,Myanmar,Thailand or the Philippines
? Fear is often a kind of infectious disease,It is very difficult to hide the fact that around the world,especially under the western political propaganda.
Again you don't understand SEA, by dividing Muslims and non-Muslims. The problem is you mention Western propaganda, but you swallow it wholeheartedly when it suits your purpose.
Secondly, you didn't even read the article. Its largest Muslim country Indonesia that is trying to paper over the disputes. Malaysia also has claims to the Spratly, but have they antagonized China. The divisions within SEA are not between Muslims vs Non-Muslims, but between the Mainland SEA states. Go read your Thai, Burmese, Khmer and Vietnamese history. They have been fighting each other for the last 600-700 years.
It sounds only you can understand SEA.Human's history is usually a war history.For example,before the 13th century,the wars between northern countries(mainly Mongols) and southern countries(mainly Han) in East Asia had last intermittently a thousand years at least.Some minorities in China even had to fled East Asia under Mongols's attacks such as Thai(Corresponding Dai now in China).Maybe,Yi,Bai(Bamar) and Jinpo,(Kachin) are also so under other ancient tribals military pressure in East Asia(Corresponding Yi,Bai,Jinpo now in China).But now Thai,Han or other ancient China's minorities's descendants in SEA will hate Mongols? No! I know some Thai come China and find their roots in China,but they don't hate anything again. Almost all the people in China look Mongols on as compatriots.Certainly Yi,Bai,Kachin(Jinpao),Thai(Dai) who live in China also are looked on as brothers.No war for another hundred year among them in China.
Listen, using East Asian history to explain SEA is a fallacy . I am talking about ethnic groups in China, or about China's relations with her neighbors? no. I am talking about conflicts in Mainland SEA. Outside of Thailand, all of Mainland SEA have been at war for the majority of the last 60 years. Burma today is still largely divided and at war with each other.
Yes there is a difference between non-Muslim SEA and Muslim SEA, the difference is the non-Muslim SEA are more prone to conflict with each other. It has little to do with religion, and a lot to do with nationalism, Cold War politics etc.
@Old Bismarck
Have you travelled around Indochina and got discussions with the people ? People "under the (technical) Roof of Globalization" are much better informed than decades before.
Referring Islamic phobia in Indochina: Not a particular phobia but Islam in general is unpopular and disliked,as it is in more than 80 % of the International(Globalized) World.
Can you imagine WHY ?
-- Malaysia also has claims to the Spratly, but have they antagonized China --
No they have not, but they have a LOT to lose if they try. Malaysia has a large ethnic Chinese minority, who are discriminated against under the bumi policies. If Malaysia annoys China, China can put troops into Malaysia using the excuse that they are protecting the ethnic Chinese (like the US did in Iraq for the Kurds).
I am no expert in Malaysian military preparedness, but I will bet that a single Chinese war ship appearing off Kuantan will be enough to send every Malay with a plane fare to Australia.
The Economist wrote above, "If so, it would be an end to the famous "ASEAN consensus" by which the organisation makes decisions."
In regards specifically to the S. China Sea issue, perhaps. But otherwise, there is no logic whatsoever in assuming that a 'China friendly' Cambodia will automatically be at odds with ASEAN over other issues.
Britain itself is FAMOUSLY in the US pocket. Does that mean an end, therefore, to any hope of EU consensus?
Yes but the US does not seek to destroy the EU, whereas China is obviously trying to destroy ASEAN. Why else would China tell Cambodia to pull the plug on the ASEAN summit when it tried to issue a final statement? China has said it will only deal bilateraly with ASEAN members, it does not recognise ASEAN's competence in territorial disputes. ASEAN is finished if China has decided to destroy it, and continues to use bribes and threats to sabotage ASEAN initiatives.
If Myanmar is unable to drag the other Asean countries to force US to drop its sanctions for the past few decades. Why do people think vietnam and philiphin should be able to drag others to force China to drop its claim on the island?
Your analogy is wrong. US sanctions on Burma started around 1988. ASEAN accepted Burma as a member in 1997. ASEAN chose to engage Burma in contrast to the United States' harder line. With the current opening up of Burma, it would appear to have had some benefits and shows why ASEAN is far from irrelevant.
ASEAN doing things first and foremost for ASEAN interests has been good for ASEAN that's why Cambodia being an active obstacle to the interests of fellow ASEAN members instead of being at least sympathetic is a precedent that is contrary to the ASEAN way.
ASEAN is finally realising that when you stand for little then you become what you stand for.... little!
SE Asia is so busy squabbling it didn't even notice the neighbourhood bully rubbings its hands in glee in the corner.
If you look at a map of South China Sea claims by country, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Thailand, and Singapore only claim the 200 mile EEZ from their inhabited mainland.
China, Vietnam, and the Philippines are the only countries making "extra" claims (the uninhabited Paracel and Spratly island chains) and are claiming EEZ rights around these uninhabitable atolls, which is against the UNCLOS agreement. All 3 countries' "extra" claims overlap with Malaysia and Brunei's 200 mile claim from their mainlands.
The ASEAN states that do not make "extra" claims, such as Malaysia, may view China as their largest threat, but they don't like Vietnam and the Philippines trying to steal from them either.
According to the Malaysian foreign minister:
"KOTA KINABALU: Malaysia's foreign minister urged Southeast Asian countries on Sunday to settle their overlapping claims in the South China Sea before bringing them up with Beijing.
Anifah Aman's comments, following an hour-long meeting with his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi, imply that Malaysia wants ASEAN to present a more united front against an increasingly assertive China.
Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam, all members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), have overlapping claims in the resource-rich sea, as does Taiwan. China claims sovereignty over almost all of it. Anifah said a repeat of confrontation, such as a June standoff between Philippine and Chinese ships over Scarborough Shoal, should be avoided. "We are confident we can resolve this matter. China is also earnest in its desire in finding solutions. This issue can be settled through peaceful means," he told reporters. "There are overlapping claims by member countries. Let us discuss these among ASEAN countries first before we talk to China," he added."
I guess that unless Vietnam and the Philippines both give up their "extra" claims in the Spratly Islands, then no "united front" within ASEAN (even without Cambodia, Laos, and Myanmar) can be achieved. As long as Vietnam and the Philippines want to continue stealing from their ASEAN neighbors, then they probably won't get much support from their neighbors in their negotiations with China.
Philippines and Vietnam are moving a bit faster that undermine Asean interest and unity. It is not totally Cambodia. They really know about this and put easy blame on Cambodia as a chair. Now they are learning the bitter lesson. If they accepted the wording og maritime dispute in general, they would get better outcome for them and ASEAN. Philippines knows clearly that they would not get consensus from ASEAN anyway, no matter who is the chair. Among all ASEAN members, Cambodia has the closest tie with China. So, she thinks that it is better to push for ASEAN support this year, not the other time. So, it can save face and put easy blame on Cambodia.
AFAIK, our government (Vietnam) never claim the water surround the isles, we only claim:
- 200 miles EEZ
- extended continental shelf farther than 200 miles from the coast, which IIRC, we submitted the proposal together with Malaysia to the UN in 2009.
- The isles themselves
I don't really understand from where did The Economist and other sites get the claimants map. The only country that claim 'the sea' itself is China with their nine-dashes map, and that map was revealed after Vietnam and Malaysia's submissions for extended continental shelf.
So you claimed that The Economist and all the other news organizations are "wrong" but then did not provide any evidence to support your counterclaim whatsoever.
You should really provide some evidence to support your counterclaim if you are going to make such a contentious one that contradicts what The Economist and most other (perhaps even "every" other) news organization claims.
"- extended continental shelf farther than 200 miles from the coast, which IIRC, we submitted the proposal together with Malaysia to the UN in 2009."
Does this "extended continental shelf" consist of almost the entire sea? If The Economist and other news organizations are correct, tiny Vietnam's claims are almost as large as massive China's!
Compare Vietnam's orange line to China's red line. I don't see how the "9 dashed line" is any more ridiculous that Vietnam's "extended continental shelf" claim.
But back to my original point: unless Vietnam gives up its "extended" claims that goes "farther than 200 miles from the coast", then it's unlikely to receive much support in negotiations against China.
It has not received much support from countries like Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, and Thailand thus far. Why not?
I guess, according to the Malaysian foreign secretary, Malaysia wants ASEAN to resolves its disputes internally "before" talking to Beijing. (Key word here is "before.") I guess this suggests that he's not willing to help negotiate against China unless he gets concessions from Vietnam and the Philippines first.
Check the executive summary, there is a map in there, we don't and *can't* claim the whole sea. The extended continental shelf is limited at 350 miles from main coast, and we don't even claim that much. I don't understand how all the news sites 'think' that we claim that much. If you check the map, you can see that our extended claim does not overlap with other country (aside from China) claims, at least not their 200 km EEZ. And according to UNCLOS, we have the right to claim the extended continental shelf:
"The continental shelf is defined as the natural prolongation of the land territory to the continental margin's outer edge, or 200 nautical miles from the coastal state's baseline, whichever is greater. A state's continental shelf may exceed 200 nautical miles until the natural prolongation ends. However, it may never exceed 350 nautical miles (650 kilometres; 400 miles) from the baseline;or it may never exceed 100 nautical miles (190 kilometres; 120 miles) beyond the 2,500 meter isobath (the line connecting the depth of 2,500 meters) "
And the archipelagos? Yeah, we claim them, not the sea around them.
The link that you provided doesn't say much other than:
"On 7 May 2009, the Socialist Republic of Viet Nam submitted to the Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, in accordance with Article 76, paragraph 8, of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, information on the limits of the continental shelf *beyond* 200 nautical miles from the baselines from which the breadth of the territorial sea is measured in respect of the North Area (VNM-N)."
There is of course no map or any other data that supports your counterclaim to The Economist's map that Vietnam's claim does not overlap with other nation's 200 mile EEZ other than China's.
According to The Economist's map, Vietnam's claims overlap with Malaysia and Brunei's 200 mile EEZ, and with the Philippines' "extra" claims on the Spratly Islands.
But of course claiming an "extended continental shelf that is limited to 350 miles from the (Vietnamese) coast" is essentially geographically the same as claiming the archipelagos and the seas around them.
I don't think Malaysia really cares about how Vietnam phrases its "extra" claims, whether its by an "extended continental shelf" or the "archipelagos and seas around them." What's important to Malaysia is probably Vietnam's *actual* claims, regardless of how Vietnam chooses to phrase them.
"There is of course no map or any other data that supports your counterclaim to The Economist's map that Vietnam's claim does not overlap with other nation's 200 mile EEZ other than China's."
If you have much time to type such a long reply, maybe you could spend, say, 5 seconds look down and find what I said "Executive summary"
Due to recent seafloor cable incident, I am currently unable to upload the image to any image hosting service, therefor you will have to spend 10 more seconds opening that pdf link and maybe 3 more for scrolling. My apology for the inconvenience.
So why not link that particular PDF to begin with, if you want to make it easier for people to read the evidence that you provided?
Anyways Vietnam's 350M line, as presented in the PDF that you last linked, seems to correlate perfectly with The Economist's line of Vietnam's claims in the Sea.
I guess The Economist and other news agencies are not wrong after all. I guess I was the one who confused Vietnam's "extended continental shelf claim" with "the sea around the archipelagos", but it would appear that The Economist's map of Vietnam's claims overlapping with Malaysia and Brunei's 200 mile EEZ is correct.
No, it is not, please check again, here is the link to the map from The Economist, our claim is (approximately) the red line.
And remember, we have all the coordinates of 45 points in that pdf files, unlike China who just gives a vaguely 9 dashes without any coordinates at all.
Thanks for the edited map. (I guess your image uploading service works after all!)
But I obviously cannot speak for TE or know of where they got their sources, so we'll just have to wait for an official response (if any is to come) from the newspaper.
The Anglo-Saxon claimed the whole North America continent and they got it away! LOL
What does Manifest Destiny in North America have to do with the current situation in the South China Sea?
Are you trying to say that since the American settlers displaced the Native Americans through force and laid claim to their land, China should be able to do the same with the South China Sea?
You are certainly entitled to make that argument, but I don't think anyone, least of all China, would be happy with the end result.
The geopolitical situation does not yet favor China, though it might in a decade or so.
Best Regards.
Mexico, which is part of North America, was claimed by the King of Spain. France and Russia also had claims in North America (Lousiana+Quebec and Alaska respectively). Please let's not over simplify or distort history.
My post is to answer to the poster who I posted for.
Alaska was given to USA by Russia as far as I knew.
Quebec tried a few times to be independent, failed.
The fact is Anglo-Saxon did claimed the whole North America continent and became a real owner. Let Indians be in a reservation and drink.
Alaska was sold to the US by the Russians. Stop snorting such much coke, its bad for you
America had no money to pay. IdIOT! So they gave it to USA instead.
"America had no money to pay. IdIOT! So they gave it to USA instead."
Surprisingly the name of the entry is called the "Alaska Purchase"
PL, still enjoying the freedom of speech you deny to your comrades? You really should read more history books, you are not doing yourself or your comrades any favours spreading your ignorance on these forums. Happy trolling :)
My ignorant is about the same as your on freedom of speech, democracy etc. We are just equal ...
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Here's another, equally monkey-prize-worthy entry: It's a combo of Grilled Cheese and Moloko Plus A Clockwork Cheesetoast? Salvador Toasti?
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TomW wrote:Here's a quick one to start us off: A mix of Stop Motion (http://shirt.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=5688) and Sudden Death (http://shirt.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=6448). I call it Arma-turtle-geddon. You may choose your own title.
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http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3376581 + http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3366094 = Win!
bjmichae wrote:http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3376581 + http://shirt.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3366094 = Win!
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It's an emoticon. The e's are dizzy, swirly eyes. I think my turtle will win. That flimsy bat can't stand up to its awesome power. Here's a mock entry I created quite a while ago. I've got at least one other idea I'll throw together later... Kawaii Broccoli Kawai One Cheer for Broccoli
eHalcyon wrote:It's an emoticon. The e's are dizzy, swirly eyes. I think my turtle will win. That flimsy bat can't stand up to its awesome power.
Did you design the turtle? It's one of my very favorite shirts.
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Yessir, that one was mine. Also "A Wonderful Day".
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eHalcyon wrote:Yessir, that one was mine. Also "A Wonderful Day".
I have that one as well. Unfortunately, it has not handled my recent weight gain as well as the turtle.
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tehpwnerer wrote:It's always humorous when the elite derbiests emerge from their dark tower to prowl the forums over here at original.woot.com
True, but only they will understand entries like this...(hopefully)
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