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I have the nauseating feeling, that Orban has been paid yet, cash on the nail.
And I also feel impotent anger and deep shame.
Guys, did you consider that imprisonment for life is too much for a murder and that he has already spent 8 years in prison? Isn't it enough for a murder?
Perhaps, if it's already possible to bring murdered people back from the other world after 8 years, why not. I am not much in the latest scientific achievements.
Is it possible to bring them back after life time imprisonment? Your logic doesn't work. Sorry.
Of course it is not. It's really simple, but I'll try not to miss out details.
Life time imprisonment is meant in this case as a punishment for taking another person's life FOREVER. Perhaps for not a political crime some 25 years would be enough, but we are dealing now with one of political content. We won't bring the killed person back, if the murderer brings his whole life in prison, but letting him free and making him a national hero, means, for example, that now every Armenian should be scared of dealing with Azerbaijanis, because they could kill them and be imprisoned for some 8 years or not be punished at all.
Horrible to think, that it could make any Armenian do the same thing to any Azerbaijani. I would be the first person, who'd condemn an Armenian, who has killed someone else (with an axe, while sleeping) out of war situation just because he was Azerbaijani. And because they wanted to take revenge from some insane Azerbaijani guy, who decided to become well known, by killing an Armenian in his sleep.
Just think about the human values of such a society, and this is how they look like at the moment:
And it's very harmful first of all for Azerbaijanis and their children, their mental and moral state. They'll just have a sick society as a result (if they don't already), unable to create and develop, which can also be very easily turned down by the "enemies". Just a tip.
Oh and by the way, don't worry about my logic, it's not perfect, because it's human. Hope you'll be wise enough not to discuss it anymore, trying to prove yours much better. Otherwise, I will not take your comments seriously, and you'll an ignore instead of another reply and discussion (well, I have some experience with "talking" to Azerbaijanis, if you are one, of course). And I hope, no one will try to find me with an axe later.
He is a murderer, and should not be declared a hero, but considering that his family is a victim of Armenian army and Armenian fellow's behavior, this punishment should be milder, not life long.
8 years is enough. Declaring him national hero is just a stupid tool for Azeri government, just as it was Eurovision and many others.
Thanks for your answer. However, it doesn't allow anyone (Azeri or Armenian) to kill Armenians (or Azeris) they happen to meet, because their families have been victims during the war (believe me, there are no less Armenians with such a personal tragedy). Therefore, I still think 8 years are not enough. Well, no matter what I think, he was sentenced to life long imprisonment by the court, and letting him out is violation of law.
The Hungarian Penal Code stipulates so called "qualifiers" for each crime.
The Court deemed this axe murder was premeditated, based on foul motifs and executed with extreme cruelty.
Any of these is enough for life inprisonment.
What the h..?
sAFAROVS LIKE HIS GET FREE AND FEEL PROUD TO MAKE ONE ANOTHER CRIME WITHOUT FEELING ANY SHAAME!!!
A MILITARY man convicted of killing another MILITARY man has been pardoned. Everyone suddenly speaks of justice, fairness and rule of law. What I wonder is why did we not hear enough of these words when Armenia forced out hundred of thousands of CIVILIANS from their homes. After 20 years they are still waiting to go back home. And we don't seem to care much...
Civilians were forced out of their homes from Aserbaijan to Armenia AS WELL. There are NO ARMENIANS in Baku now, there were hundreds of thousands of them before the war.
People, during a WAR everything happens on THE BOTH SIDES! Whereas in Hungary there was NO WAR FRONT in 2004. There is a veery big difference between those two situations.
Civilians were forced out of their homes from Aserbaijan to Armenia AS WELL. There are NO ARMENIANS in Baku now, there were hundreds of thousands of them before the war.
People, during a WAR everything happens on THE BOTH SIDES! Whereas in Hungary there was NO WAR FRONT in 2004. There is a veery big difference between those two situations.
There are Armenians still living in Baku.
May God be with them!
Sure, and there are still Azerbaijanis in Gharabagh and Yerevan, I should have said "virtually no Armenians".
With love from Yerevan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QODjD2tIS7M
N822, N 853, N874 and N884 UN Security Council Resolutions
http://www.ianyanmag.com/2012/09/05/the-safarov-triangle-a-primer-part-i/ - details about the circumstances of this crime
Azerbaijan broke its government's written undertaking that it will NOT pardon in any way Mr Safarov and he will serve the rest of his life sentence there. The repatriation of the prisoner has been carried out according to the relevant international agreements. This fact has been recognized by all interested parties from Washington to Brussels to Moscow.
While Armenia's anger is understandable, it is badly overreacting the situation. What appalling is the Hungarian Communist opposition's actions who, in contrary to the Hungarian national interests, trying to create a problem for Hungary out of this minor international incident.
You are wrong, the AZERI GOVERNMENT DID NOT release Safarov.
He was PARDONED BY THE HEAD OF STATE! This is a huge difference!
But it doesnt make a difference... if Goverment pardones a crime that means he appreciates the crime and let it to go on further....
Remaining the anti Armenian moods and racism in Azerbaijan we can say with confidence , that it was a huge mistake appreciating hate and violence that Azeris used to live with for decades..
follow the link bellow and you will see the details of the case.. Safarov is a mad..
DonnaQouixote! It was a huge mistake that the Hungarians gave Safarov back. The Hungarian diplomacy, I believe, knew that Safarov will be released.
But I repeat: it was not the Azeri government who pardoned him. It was the Head of (Azerbaijan) State.
Mr. Orban now is trying to save his goverment, saying "but the Azeri's promised us this and that". Yes, the Azeri Ministry of Justice or something like that, of course. And they did what they promised: no new trial or punisment was given to Safarov at all. But the Head of State, as an independent entity, has the right to give freedom to anyone. And actually he did so. :((
It remains a shame on Hungarian government that they were so imprudent
Thank you for your reply!
IO understant that Aliev set him free and not the Government, but ther is not a big differense in moral side of this step kets agree...
The Hades of th States, Prime Ministers, Government representatives and other persons never take a responsobility of what they do.. Do you think it's fair? What we talk about now? About who has a right to give a freedom to the mad murderer or about the things it can result?
If we talk about the rigts, than I have no idea about that kind of right , I will learn, but if we talk about mistakes of authorities, than let me say, that it will bring to a huge collaps in the region, in the framework of peace negotiations Armenia has nothing to do share with such country as Azerbayjan is. World Political players never research the details of such kind of stories, they never try to make a difference or to influence on the solving problems.. in the results thousands of innocent people are dying and were dead during the war over Nagorno Karabalkh. The question is why? Wassn't there a right to make referendum for Nagorno Kraabakh citizens and aren't there human rights for living with the country you choos? Or is there still a right to let free a murderer who influences on the growth of hate and violence...
Sorry for being rough!
Do not sorry being rough. I totally agree with you.
What I'm saying is only that the Orban government tries to clean his hands by saying that the Azeri government assured them about not releasing Safarov. They say now, that they were cheated, but they were not. The Azeri government did not pardoned Sarafov. But they all knew, I believe, that although the government wouldn't release (?) that murderer, the Head of State would do so. And the Hungarian government never asked assurance to avoid that, or denied to give that man back to Azerbaijan.
And, yes, morally it is not a big difference who pardoned that man. And an other piece of cake we did not talk: that man was promoted, got some extra money etc....
This is an upside down (and disgusting) world where a man who kills an other human being while asleep praised as a national hero. Mad, mad world we live in...
I must thank all Hungarian friends for protesting. This is moving!
I must agree the release is not the crux of the matter here. Politics is a whore and things like this happen. Also things like this should go away and Armenia should restart relations with Hungary. I do accept the fact that it was the Azerbaijani government's responsibility entirely!
Please consider that the poltical actions of a prime minister in a country do not cover the standpoint of a country!
Please check http://www.facebook.com/SorryArmenia
Please consider the cases of Monte Melkonian, Gurgen Yanikian, Varoujan Garabedian, Soghomon Tehlirian and many others. WHO WERE THESE PEOPLE? - THE TERRORISTS, who are admired by the Armenians.I think to have a balanced argument one should pay attention to the other side of the coin as well.
Were any of these declared as the man of the year or a national hero?
After his death in battle on June 12, 1993, the president of the Republic of Armenia declared Monte Melkonian a National Hero, and he was awarded the highest military honors of Nagorno Karabagh and the Republic of Armenia, including the Military Cross, First Degree and the Golden Eagle medal.
The whole of Armenia is decorated with statues of Melkonian.There is a monument in honor of Melkonian at the front of the Yerevan State University dormitory, a bust of Monte Melkonian in the Victory Park, Yerevan, and many more.
Well, good answer. My question was genuine - I don't know enough about it to take any sides.
All I know I am deeply ashamed of the bunch of kleptocratic morons running my country (Hungary). You may be happy that we released a murderer in exchange for money. I am not.
Sorry, I'm afraid this argument is a bit of a red herring. The fact that people in Country A consider someone a hero, and people in Country B consider the same person a terrorist has nothing to do with a shady prime minister's decision to release a convicted murderer from prison.
In the West, we have laws. Orban, who ultimately makes all political decisions in Hungary, knew damned well that Azerbaijan's standards of law and order were not adequate to ensure Safarov's continued detention. Hungary's excuse, "Well, look, Azerbaijan is a member of the Council of Europe" is simply childish.
This affair is one more example of Orban sidling up to the autocratic East instead of the democratic West. And another example of Hungarians' bizarre willingness to tolerate Orban's rule.
To paraphrase Abe Lincoln, in democracies, we don't solve problems with bloody bullets, but peaceful ballots. That's one reason why terrorism in the West is limited to psychopaths like Breivik and McVeigh. Places without democracy - i.e. most of the Middle East, the Caucuses, Russia, China, will continue to have violent people who are heroes to some, terrorists to others. This cannot be considered the "other side of the coin" to a supposedly democratic prime minister's reprehensible behavior.
Do your research before forming opinions about these people. All of them have had different paths, but they are bunched together by the Azeri propaganda machine and hailed as terrorists. Hungary has just been told a very big lie by Azerbaijani officials; do not be so naive to believe anything they say before doing research.
Monte Melkonian was a volunteer force in the Karabakh war, who was by the way, hightly educated and a humanist in nature; there exist YouTube videos with an Azeri woman kneeling with a white flag after the capture of a village, Monte takes her hand, raises her up and tells her they would not harm the civilians and that is never their intention. He was also a very effective leader during the war, which is why is hated by Azeri propaganda machine so much. To compare a man like him to Safarov that claims hatred for all Armenians and that he should "kill them all" is truly preposterous and plays on the ignorance of the reader.
Soghomon Tehlirian was a man that went through the deportations in the Ottoman Empire, where he lost his entire family to the Armenian Genocide. He shot Talaat, who was one of the three masterminds of the Armenian Genocide who has escaped any form of justice I would say like Safarov, but at least Safarov got his court time. Tehlirian was judged in a German court and acquitted, as it was clear to everyone that it was the consequence of not having brough Talaat to justice.
Yanikian was involved in killing two Turkish diplomats that were actively involved in the denial of Armenian Genocide. Garabedian was also arrested for a bombing at a Turkish airline check-in targeted at some Turkish diplomats as well. But none of these were filled with ethnic hatred towards an entire nation or any desire to kill all, rather a consequence of a 1.5 million souls killed that has gone unpunished without a speck of justice in return.
What was so especial in this case was it was the first time in the last 100 years justice was going to happen for an Armenian who was killed for ethnic hatred yet again. And Hungary denied that chance. And I'm seeing all these apologies everywhere saying "sorry Armenia... but! our economy is more important", which leaves the bitter taste of not really having any remorse. And at the same time Hungarian officials deny any relation between the economic deals and the extradition. If Hungary's wisdom allows for a lying partner that heroifies hate crime committers, it should continue its relations with Azerbaijan.
I do respect your opinion, it is your right to express your opinion, be happy or unhappy with your government, and I do agree that two countries' opinions on calling one person a "terrorist' or a "hero" has nothing to do with your prime minister's decision.
You are stating that in the West you do have laws. However, if you delve into the cases of the people that I had mentioned earlier on, such as Monte Melkonian, Gurgen Yanikian, Varoujan Garabedian, and Soghomon Tehlirian you would notice that these terrorists were either pardoned or released by the Western countries themselves. All these examples show that the democratic West's laws are in no way better than the rest of the world's laws.
However, if you argue that if the transfer of sentenced people should only be made only within the "democratic West" and not "to the autocratic East" (as you call it), then would it not be applying double standards? What would be the point of "accepting" the so called "less democratic" stated as parties to the Convention on the Transfer of Sentenced Persons? I guess, the transfer of sentenced persons should happen to both "democratic" as well as "less democratic" states. Every country is free to make its own decision, and no other countries should intervene into their business (one of the main principles of international law).
Besides, during this year more than ten prisoners have been transferred from Hungary to their own countries. Do you know about the fate of all of those persons? Honestly speaking, I doubt that you do. Perhaps, some of them have been more serious criminals than Ramil Safarov.
Why has the case of Ramil Safarov triggered such a broad response? Because it entails many issues, among which are legal, political, social, regional and many more. This is not an "ordinary two-sided coin". Much depends on what and whose perspective you look at the issue. By the "other side of the coin" I meant the broader context of Armenian terrorism, I do agree killing is the worst evil on Earth, but when talking about Ramil Safarov's crime, and before sympathizing one side and blaming another side (where I meant Azerbaijan and Armenia), consideration should also be paid to the atrocities committed by the Armenians too. I have nothing to do with your internal politics. It is up to the Hungarian people to judge, and time will evaluate the steps taken by your government.
Last, but not least, I wonder what your reaction would have been if Ramil Safarov was pardoned by the Orban administration itself?!
From your comment it is evident that you are justifying the deeds of Yanikian, Melkonian and others. Take Yanikian as an example; he invited Turkish diplomats for a lunch and killed them, when in court he did not express his regrets, on the contrary, he stated " I did not kill two men, I destroyed two evils. For me they were not human." He was anti-turk. If he had had a chance he would have killed the whole Turkish nation.
You are blaming Safarov, while defending Yanikian. Yanikian killed an unarmed persons, so did Safarov. Why is Yanikian a hero, while Safarov is a crime committer?
When it comes to Melkonian, he was not even born in Armenia; because of his Armenian blood, he came from USA to "liberate Armenian lands", but which lands? He came to invade and to kill. Now Jabrayil, the place where Safarov was born, is under Armenian occupation because of terrorists like Melkonian.
If you are in favour of justice, then accept the fact that Armenia is an aggressor. There are even four ( N822, N 853, N874 and N884) UN Security Council Resolutions proving this fact. All these resolutions call Armenian armed forces to withdraw from Azerbaijan's land. WHY ARE THEY NOT WITHDRAWING?
Also accept the fact that Serzh Sarkisian and his predecessors have led Armenia to a total disaster. Look at your economy.
Yanikian killed two diplomats actively involved in Armenian Genocide denial. While the right thing would be to bring them to court and have the court sentence them, it is well-known that nobody was properly brought to justice for butchering 1.5 million Armenians during WWI. He never said anything even close to the whole Turkish nation not being human, and again, most Armenians don't know his name, so stop spewing nonsense. Contrast with Safarov: "My job is to kill them all", and then he gets draped in Azerbaijani flag and pardoned the moment he arrives.
As for Monte Melkonian, he was an army volunteer leader, and as I said, always spared the civilians, and managed to defend his ancestoral land where you were so keen on erasing every last Armenian from, so I understand why Azerbaijan is so pissed about him. You should be ashamed to even mention him in the same sentence as an axe-murderer who kills in sleep. As for "which lands", you judge for yourself: Azerbaijani as a national identity was only created in the beginning of the 20th century to ensure an oil foothold for Turkey, and the Muslim Tatars in the area suddenly came to be known as "Azerbaijani", and a country called Azerbaijan first appeared on the map only in 1918.
At first I thought you are just ignorant and lack basic history skills, but from your tone it is quite obvious that you are just another tool in the Azerbaijani propaganda machine. A machine that is willing to make a national hero even out of an axe-murderer killing in sleep. Your type truly makes me sick.
I shall inform you, that above mentioned persons by you were heroes, they were well-educated, intelligent, brave patriots who risked their lives protecting their people , securing the honour of their nation. And you say terrorist? get acquainted with history and be able to consider and say reliable and correct things
I think you should be the next author of Azerbaijan's history, you seem to have such a "deep" knowledge and good analitical skills. Dont forget to mention in your book the fate of Melkonian.
By the way, where is your comment on UN Security Council Resolutions? Are the lie too?
You write:"All I know I am deeply ashamed of the bunch of kleptocratic morons running ..."
Something of an off-topic, isn't it?
As I know, and the world knows, Soghomon Tehlerian was set free by a court, "Court" decided to set him free.. here we see another picture with Safarov. And Soghomon Tehlerian was set free, not aS A TERRORIST, as a person who killed Taliat Paasha- the organizer of Armenian Genocide in 1915... I insure there is nothing to compare..
Considering Monte Melkonian, Monte was born and grown in US, has two high educations and left his confortable life to save his brothers lifes at war. He came to Nagorno Karabakh to fight for his land, as Azerbajian army was atacking it, killing and making suffer his relatives...
Safarov was 14 years old guy when Karabakh conflict started. he has nothing common with this REAL HEROES.
If you are in favour of justice, and the principles of international law, then you should accept the fact that Armenia is an agressor.It is Armenia who attacked Azerbaijan, and not vice versa. UN Security Council Resolutions N822, N 853, N874 and N884 are proof to that.
Consequently, Monte Melkonian came from USA NOT "to fight for his land", but to KILL in Azerbaijan's land. It is you armenians who glorify him, put his statues accross Armenia,you give him the title of "National Hero" and in your eyes he is a hero.
But in the eyes of justice he is a TERRORIST, who was eventually killed by a 20-year old Azerbaijani soldier.
You resort to your emotions, but fact remains as a fact.
You simply burn with envy that Ramil is in freedom, you are a hypocrite, if he had been your officer you would have glorified him as well.
AS you mentioned after his death in battle and not after killing a sleeping man.
Firstly,show me in the resolutions the wording "Republic of Armenia occupied the Azerbaijani ladns", the mentioning is about the Armenian troops, Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh. Secondly, the resolutions are adopted in the scope of Chapte VII which means that they are not legally binding. Good luck!
Let us not be tempted
I thank all the Hungarian people who protested in the streets of Budapest, have joined the Facebook page or have otherwise supported the struggle against the disgusting act of corruption committed by the Azeri government and its accomplices in Hungary. I also express my gratitude to all the governments, media and citizens worldwide whose reaction was so fast and wise. And this is not only because I am Armenian, but also because I see a horrifying danger in what has happened – a danger that can spread over the borders of our small and restless region.
Current economic hardship inclined the Hungarian government to give in to the temptation of possible economic benefits. After all, what is Armenia to Hungary? Trade between the two countries is a fraction of the potential lucrative deals with Azerbaijan. And the threat is hidden exactly here. This economic downturn may last short or long, but an unpunished precedent of this scale will cause long-term negative consequences to all the peoples, including Azeri. Fanatical nationalism and brainwash have already proved to be lethal and contagious if not condemned and stopped in time.
Let us not allow the economic crisis to grow into a crisis of morality. Let us not exchange the European values that have been accumulated with so much hardship and are the guarantor of our peaceful future for short-term goodies.
As a hungarian, I feel shame of the hungarian government...the Prime Minister has the same mentality as the Azeri president....unfortunatelly most of hungarian became neutral due to the every day fight for survive....this is also shame....
Armenia, sorry about the hungarian government's, the Prime Minister, Vikor Orban, this minifuhrer, and its parties (Fidesz, kdnp) blunder.
The greatest insult to European values is the Armenian occupation of Azerbaijani territories and expulsion of hundreds of thousands of people from their homes!
What territories you talk about? Kharabakh was and will be Armenian! Armenian lived there for centuries.. boulding cristian temples and incrusting culture..
The greatest insult of European values was letting a murderer free and pardoning him..
Please try to find more information about this ''occupied territories of Azerbayjan''
Please try to find more information about this ''occupied territories of Azerbayjan''
Europe will be Europe only when it can have to courage to critisize one of it's member states when at wrong. Clearly Hungary came out to be the sucker because most probably willingly or unwillingly trusted the Azeris. Europe's repuatation is at stake. Would it have the courage it condemn one of it's Members or it will be business as usual European style.
That's getting a touch ridiculous.
Rather than flaming forth petty and stupid nationalism, get constructive. Hungary's repatriation of a criminal is frankly irrelevant. Azerbeijan and Armenia really have to reach out to one another diplomatically.
Hungary has its domestic problems to worry about, and as Europeans we care far more about Hungary's economic stability, economic integration, social freedom and political plurality, than we care about the decision of Hungary's sovereign government to repatriate a prisoner to a state where there was no threat of torture.
"Azerbeijan and Armenia really have to reach out to one another diplomatically" - wow, really? That's some words of wisdom, how come it never occurred to others?! Seriously, how would you reach out to Azerbaijan after this story if you were Armenian?
Whom are you kidding - "torture"? How exactly safarov would be treated in Baku was pretty obvious to anybody who was sufficiently interested in the case. For example:
"Ferenc Gyurcsany, the former Hungarian prime minister now leading the opposition Democratic Coalition (DK) party, reportedly said on Monday that the Azerbaijani government requested Safarov's extradition during his 2004-2009 tenure. He said his government turned down the request because it was sure that the officer convicted of murdering Markarian in Budapest in 2004 would be set free on his return home."
(see RFE piece at http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/24698050.html)
Please, stop playing an ignorant...
Frankly, there's no point in letting this cloud diplomacy. It's only one man - not worth a diplomatic storm (especially given how bad relations already are).
As sick as this is, there is nothing to be gained in getting worked up over it. Publicly state that, as a convicted murderer of an Armenian soldier, the release is perceived as inappropriate and insensitive. Leave it at that. State - but always understate - one another's flaws. Then emphasise the opportunities and mutual ambitions. Are the political establishment and civil administrations in Armenia and Azerbaijan really so incompetent?
Guys, there's profit to be made. Plenty of room for pipelines, joint infrastructure investments, opening one another's markets to more intense mutual competition, acting together with Georgia, Turkey and the EU to implement all the preconditions for extension of the DCFTA (what allows Turkish manufacturers and increasingly agriculture to get rich selling in EU markets), etc. And frankly, that matters more in the long run than a few kids being forced to go to school in another language (as more people enter the middle class, there's a stronger social lobby for upholding minority rights).
With more trade, and with more regional economic and political integration, wars and ethnic cleansing become inconceivable. That path to improvement is to grow a hard skin, selective memory and to emphasise concrete mutually attractive goals.
See that's your problem. You can't see further the immediate economic gain. While any sustainable model of society is based on MORAL PRINCIPLES, not economic gain. Your government did EXACTLY the same mistake!
I rather prefer long term economic gain :D
Human societies are indeed based somewhat on moral "principles" - in which people interact and extend empathy to one another. All too often however, people become tribal and manage to restrict empathy for/ dehumanise another nationality, ethnicity, linguistic or cultural group. The best defence against tribalism, is to ensure that there is plenty of mutual trade, two-way migration, shared popular media, etc. If people mix sufficiently, they can't help but to extend empathy and treat one another as they do their families and neighbours.
Dehumanisation and tribalism is so often only sustainable because the governments on both sides - and the media they influence - push populist propaganda and dwell on the worst actions or claims of the other side. If the governments were more focussed on economic cooperation and mutual profit, then they'd each seek to portray a better image of the other country & people in order to safeguard their trade and profitable activities. Economic gain can drive reconciliation at the top levels - where it matters most. But such reconciliation, through the media, can also reduce the depth of tribalism across both societies.
Economic gain, as a unifying force which can conquer all evil, is certainly to be celebrated. Though note: emphasis there is on long term economic gain (achieved through collaboration) rather than short term economic gain (which might be attained merely through plunder).
Now, convince your government and theirs to start chasing the money to be had from joint work and opening.
Well said. As bad as the Socialists were at least they didn't release criminals for bribe money. These deals suit third world countries.
"Economic gain, as a unifying force which can conquer all evil"
Economic gain is the root of all evil.
guy is playing ignorant, ignore the troll.
"It's only one man - not worth a diplomatic storm (especially given how bad relations already are)."
You obviously have substantial gaps in history. Was not Gavrilo Princip only one man acting alone and...
The author forgot to mention that in 2001 France extradited Varoujan Garabedian, a terrorist who committed an attack in Orly airport. He was then pardoned by the Armenian president and got warm welcome as a hero in Armenia. Canada recently also released two Armenian terrorists who served life sentence for an attack on Turkish Embassy in Ottawa in 1985. On these two occasions, no country expressed their concern. this is why Armenia disregards international law and continue to occupy a chunk of territory of another sovereign country.
Garabedian served 17 years in jail after which was PARDONED by the French government and DEPORTED to Armenia. And most importantly nobody knows his name and is proud of him in Armenia.
Now can you imagine how it will hurt you if ones says he did good whatever he did and he deserves to be national hero?
In all sickening venom-splitting cacophony coming from Azeri "patriots" nowadays I consider the above argument the only one worth discussing. First, it's true – ASALA was a terrorist organization which did much more harm to Armenian cause for justice than any good (the argument above is yet another manifestation of it). Armenians should not try to justify the 'romantic' young people who wanted to 'force' recognition of the Genocide by blowing up Turkish consulates and businesses - an absolutely idiotic assumption. Having said that, I do not recall when last time I heard such romanticizing in fellow Armenian circles – it seems most of the nation got over it.
Now, why this argument is still falling short to convince me that both cases are equal? First, Garabedian was released after serving a lengthy period (almost 20 years) in prison – Safarov had barely had time to grow his belly - and here time really does count. Second, there was an explicit pardon by French authorities guided with whatever (I suppose, sensible) procedures that had in place – Safarov's case is a clear foul play (see Hungary's official protest). Finally, the sheer blood-chilling details of an "officer" cowardly waiting while the victim fell asleep to hack him with an axe bought a couple of days in advance adds more color to the case – for Armenians who suffered many pogroms in their recent history – one of which resulted in almost full annihilation of the nation – it carries more than just pure symbolism.
At least Armenia is proud of Monte Melnokian, a terrorist (currently the hero of Armenia) who organized an attack to the Turkish Consulate in Paris.
What would you say about the following?
Meeting in Yerevan on 4 May with Varoujan Garabedian, a former member of ASALA (the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia), Prime Minister Andranik Markarian expressed his "joy" at Garabedian's release from a French jail where he served almost 18 years of a life sentence for his alleged role in the 1983 bombing of the Turkish Airlines Office at Ory airport, Noyan Tapan and RFE/RL's Yerevan bureau reported. Garabedian, who was born in Syria, was released on the condition that he be expelled to Armenia. The French daily "Liberation" reported at the time of Garabedian's release last month that Yerevan Mayor Robert Nazarian had pledged to provide him with employment and accommodation. http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1142396.html
"continue to occupy a chunk of territory of another sovereign country"?
This land was historically always Armenian and was only given as an autonomous region to Azerbaijan by Stalin. So should the Armenians let Azerbaijan occupy it yet again and this time axe-slaughter the entire population of it?
We should speak in terms of law. It is Azerbaijan's territory according to UN Security Council resolutions and other international legal instruments. As for history it is very disputable - for centuries Karabakh for sure did not belong to Armenia. Stalin did not give it to Azerbaijan as the decision of Soviet authorities literally in Russian said "to retain" Mountainous Karabakh in Azerbaijan.
The silly season clearly isn't over yet.
Why are bizarre levels of crazed nationalism and political egos allowed to take the show?
With Orban running 8.5% of GDP deficits (and fraudulently under-reporting deficits to Eurostat/ the Commission/ the Hungarian public) while the debt is 81% of GDP already, he's every bit as fiscally irresponsible as the US or UK governments. Actually, more so: without the domestic savings to support it even in part, with the forint inflating at 5% and with real interest rates higher than Italy/ Spain.
Hungary has so much potential - Hungary could easily be as rich as Slovakia (12% richer in PPS GDP/ capita, already in the eurozone, growing 2.9% in the year to q2 2012, while Hungary contracted 1%). What Hungary most urgently needs is a stable macroeconomy and stable public finances. With that, Hungary can offer a very competitive location for both domestic and international firms wishing to exploit European markets (from a relatively low cost base, and with a well educated workforce, just hours a couple of hours from Vienna or a 5 hour drive from Venice).
When are we going to hear a credible plan of deficit reduction, a credible plan for macroeconomic stabilisation (e.g. joining ERM II), a credible effort to provide a stable investment environment and promote investment, serious attempts to cooperate and coordinate more deeply with EU neighbours, etc.
Hungary deserves better than the government it has.
Shady transactions like this occur all the time between many, if not all countries: spies are exchanged, people extradited for cash, criminals are released discretely in exchange for some contract or tender, arms dealers responsible for the death of thousands enjoy state protection, past crimes are 'forgotten', etc ... who doesn't know that there is plenty of garbage in international politics? ... and in this cynical world of dirty deals, what Azerbaijan did is totally fair-game ... after all, the murderer killed a soldier (although sleep) ... no women, children, or civilians, right?
That being said, it is also fair game for Armenia to exploit the situation to its advantage and point to its obvious implication on the Karabakh negotiations, i.e. after this, don't send guys in suits to convince us that we should live under Azeri rule since we might just get nationally axed (like it already happened in 1915).
In my opinion, Safarov is way more useful to Armenians now than if he had quietly stayed in jail for another 30 years ... the PR opportunity is significant and should be juiced to the max by Yerevan ... so from a purely Real-Politik perspective, this is a surprise present to Armenia!
You couldn't be more wrong! Even Real-Politik, as everything else under the Sun, is based on MORAL PRINCIPLES. Because we are human beings and we need those to function as a society. Saying that Armenia gained anything from Gurgen's murdered being freed, to say the least, is simply wrong.
Of course we will eventually do good and beat all the odds as we always did. But it's not because Hungary's or Azeri's mistakes, but despite them.
Azerbaijan and Armenia don't need more petty bickering and war talk. They need to completely integrate economically, achieve open borders, free trade and competition and pursue higher living standards and greater freedom for their people.
This nationalist crap is terrible for the people of both countries.
Totally agree, living as good neighbours is obviously the best! The key word is 'neighbours' though, not one side being subjected to the other (i.e. Karabakh Armenians to Azerbaijan).
The mechanism: Karabakhis decide which country to be part of, both countries respect that choice, and basta ... we move on to more interesting things!
More realistically, both countries should accept current borders but ensure that their minorities have access to education and basic services in their mother tongue (Azeri/ Armenian in both countries).
Whatever. Even more important than that, is peace, economic development, clean government, good courts, free trade and the stuff of liberty & prosperity.
All this fuss over a bloody axe murderer takes the piss. Both states should pursue constructive diplomacy with one another (if it is their people's interests they care about).
Morally and in principle I do not think there is any difference between the release of the Lockerbie bomber and Ramil Safarov. There have been dozens of cases where the so called "democratic" big countries set a wrong example to the rest of the world.
The consequence is; "It is not about the money, but it is about the money"
I mostly agree. However there is a small but important difference between Lockerbie bomber/UK and Safarov/Hungary. Safarov was not freed by Hungary as the Lockerbie bomber in Scotland, he was extradited. Hungary didn't even have the courage to take responsibility for their acton. They just passed him to Azeris KNOWING that he will be freed and made a hero there!
Another very important difference is that Safarov's action was fueled by ethnic hatred. In his interrogation he said that his job was to "kill them all," referring to Armenians.
It's clear that Safarov is a maniac - a phenomena no nation is secure from. However, much larger questions are yet to be answered:
- Almost absolute approval of Safarov's promotion in Azeri society clearly demonstrates how indoctrinated and - to call spade a spade - fascistic it became under Aliyev's rule. What the World is going to do with it? (hint: nothing)
- Most notably, it's important to ask why European reaction is so weak - after all it's EU member Hungary and EU-aspiring country Azerbaijan who clearly violated the law. Will there be any tangible consequences for either one? (hint: no)
- Is there any reasonable person in the World who has any illusions about the fate of ethnic Armenian majority of Karabakh if the latter becomes part of Azerbaijan? That is – total annihilation/expulsion of Armenians from Krabakh? (hint: none)
PS. Not that it matters much, but... The trial of Safarov which was open and fair (Hungary's *better* times) revealed that all the justifications of the murder - *alleged* atrocities of Armenians, *alleged* insults to the national flag and other tricks defense usually plays in clear-cut situations like this - were not corresponding to the truth.
Please consider the cases of Monte Melkonian, Gurgen Yanikian, Varoujan Garabedian, Soghomon Tehlirian and many others. WHO WERE THESE PEOPLE? - THE TERRORISTS, who are admired by the Armenians.I think to have a balanced argument one should pay attention to the other side of the coin as well.
Why don't you consider the bitter situation of 1 mln Azeri refugees, who had to flee their homes because of the armenian atrocities.
What about the civilians killed in Khodjaly???
Monte Melkonian is resound as a hero for his investment in Karabakh war. Varoujan was pardoned by France and deported to Armenia after 19 years being in jail, there hasn't been any illegal action. Soghomon Tehlerian was justified, because Taliat was sentenced to death in Turkey. Yanikyan died in jail. This is the first difference,. Now let's talk about terrorism. All these people were acting because of shiftless, they did not have govermant who could rise there problems and no one was even interested about Armenian Genocide, that is terrorism. Besides, in this case responsibility was taking there terrorist groups or the individuals not the nation, and now when Azerbaijan and Armenia has there regular armies Azerbaijan is acting like terrorist group.
1. It does not take a genius to make someone angry when you occupy a big chunk of their territory and annihilate (you like this word) their people
2. Hungary did not violate the law. In legal terms it did everything according to the European jurisdiction, otherwise it would not have taken that big risk.
3. Is there any reasonable person in the World who has any illusions about the fate of hundreds of thousands of people expelled from their homes and faced the actual aggression rather than the threat which you are talking about.
As a Hungarian, I must say that I am deeply ashamed of my government being complicit in setting free a murderer.
It seems this move was orchestrated by the closest circle of the PM, the foreign ministry being sidelined.
While extraditing a foreign convict to serve his prison time in his home country is normally a humane gesture, in this case it must have been obvious that once back home, he will be set free an feted as a hero.
In case our PM did not realise this, he is completely ignorant and unfit to lead a country. In case he did, he is an immoral person and equally unfit.
So once again, sorry Armenia for this outrage. One joke doing the rounds in Budapest is that we should extradite our PM to Armenia as a sign of our remorse;)
It is not surprising to see a corrupt head-of-state named Aliyev, granting pardon to a criminal. Azerbaidjan bribed Hungary with its oil-money, financed by western powers. Azerbaijan destroyed centuries-old armenian gravestones in Nakhichevan and no body reacted. After all, we Armenians had no oil BUT we have the Justice and our faith on our side.
Armenia, a first Christian nation in the History, and a Nation who survived the first Genocide of 19th century in the hands of Turks, will also go over that. At the end, Nagorno-Karabagh is Armenian and will always stay so.
At least Aliyev is not a criminal like the Armenian President, Sarkissian who as the military commander talks proudly of the massacre of hundreds of children and women in Khojaly to the British journalist, Tom de Waal.
We learned bribery from the Armenian Diaspora in US, France and many other countries. Thanks for that!:)))
any statement of this please, any quotes!
I wonder how will the impasse end – the worst possible development would be no consequences beyond "being concerned" from the West and Russia, the murderer will continue to enjoy the freedom and the status of the national hero, and Hungary gets paid... overall, the 'news' fades away as time passes – becomes yet another chapter in the history of conflict, confirming once again that peaceful co-existence of Armenians and Azeris is as far away as it ever been.
Maybe demonstrating to the whole world that the conflict is as deep as ever is virtue enough to justify the events.
'The truth shall make you free' - not illusions.
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I was at a meeting the other night and we were reading from the 12 and 12 on step eight.
The paragraph starting on the bottom of page 79 and finishing on the top of page 80 jumped out and hit me very hard.
It talks about the damage we have done others and ourselves. It actually tells us that many of the experiences we have had can lie deep down in the subconcious and have a negative effect on our emotions altering our lives for the worse.
For me personally, this was a tremendous insight. I have been through and seen many things that were terrible tragedies. My reactin to them, and holding onto them over the years even into sobriety has definately tainted my thought process. I often wondered when and where this kind of thing would come out, but to me it didn't seem that the steps addressed it. It wasn't until I read that section again that I realized that like evey other aspect of the life this too is covered in the steps. There is a place to deal with it and a place to put it when I am through dealing with it.
Yes it means back through the steps yet again.
Funny though, the fist time I went through the steps, I was defiant. The second time reluctant, and so on. Today I can't wait to get rid of this new thing that has surfaced. Yes it's a big aspect of my life and who I am. But today I know that holding on is the wrong choice and the program has taught me where wrong choices will take me. I don;'t want to go there today. It's easier and softer to just deal with it along with the help of a sponsor and a Hp, so I can move on with my life.
So more is relvealed as we go through recovery. It is revealed to us when we are ready to see it. For this I am grateful.


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The History of the Track
Texas Motorplex – "It was like a field of dreams"
-Don "The Snake" Prudhomme recalls his first glimpse of Texas Motorplex
Built in 1986, The Texas Motorplex has been the place of many drag racing milestones and world record performances. Ever since Darrell Gwynn christened the first all-concrete, quarter-mile, national records and speed milestones have been commonplace at Texas Motorplex.
The Texas Motorplex is a favorite of drivers for the all-concrete race surface and ideal weather conditions, NHRA national events at Texas Motorplex commonly yield national records. Season championship titles are commonly clinched here and race fans get a great speed show!
Texas Motorplex is 500 ft. above sea level.
Texas Motorplex Milestones
Nov. 1985
- Billy Meyer signs an agreement to host an NHRA event the following September, before ground was broken on the facility.
Jan. 1986
- Ground breaks for Texas Motorplex – designed to be the first post tension, all-concrete, quarter-mile facility specifically created for drag racing.
Sept. 25, 1986
- Darrell Gwynn runs 5.280 to set Top Fuel E.T. record with the first national event pass ever.
April 1987
- Texas Motorplex becomes the first non-NHRA-owned track to host two national events.
- Texas Motorplex opens the Divisional 4 Hall of Fame, becoming the only track to host a hall of fame.
- Texas Motorplex becomes the first facility to build a permanent hospitality structure to host fans in a VIP atmosphere; originally known as The Top Eliminator Club and now known as the Champion's Club.
April 9, 1988
- Eddie Hill turns in the first four-second quarter mile pass – a 4.990 run.
Oct. 19, 1997
- Cory McClenathan makes the first pass in the 320 mph-range – a 321.77 run.
Oct. 24, 1998
- Gary Scelzi, John Force, Warren Johnson and Larry Kopp lead the quickest qualifying field in NHRA history.
Oct. 23, 1999
- En route to his first NHRA championship, Top Fuel driver Tony Schumacher earns his first national event victory.
Oct. 23, 1999
- John Force clinched his ninth NHRA Funny Car championship by defeating Tommy Johnson Jr. in the quickest side-by-side race in Funny Car history.
Sept. 23, 2004
- Texas Motorplex becomes the first NHRA track in the country to have starting line balcony seating in the tower suites.
Sept. 26, 2004
- Greg Anderson clinches his second consecutive NHRA Pro Stock title at Texas Motorplex. Anderson clinched the title sooner than any other driver in NHRA history.
Sept. 23, 2007
- John Force and Kenny Bernstein crash after their second-round matchup in Final Eliminations. Force is severely injured and doesn't race again until the 2008 season. Force would earn a semifinal finish at Texas Motorplex in 2008 and a second-round finish in 2009.
Sept. 26, 2010
- John Force vows to win at Texas Motorplex again and earns his first final round appearance at Texas Motorplex since his 2007 crash, earning a runner-up finish against Matt Hagan.
Texas Motorplex Track Records
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ET | 3.767 seconds by Shawn Langdon | Sept. 2013 |
MPH | 325.53 mph by Shawn Landgon | Sept. 2013 |
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ET | 4.052 seconds by Robert Hight | Sept. 2013 |
MPH | 313.37 mph by Robert Hight | Sept. 2013 |
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ET | 6.550 seconds by Allen Johnson | Sept. 2012 |
MPH | 211.99 mph by Allen Johnson | Sept. 2012 |
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The important part of Scott James Remnant's proposal is not the monthly releases, but the process for keeping the development archive always in a working state. If the proposal was modified to have the releases still happen every six months (but betas every two weeks), I think most opposed to it would agree. I'd be fine with that variation.
I don't get why distros don't copy the Chakra model.
1. Kernel, X, boot scripts and STRICTLY CORE stuff: they stick to STABLE versions, hammered until the end, working with everything. The versions you see of those packages in Chakra are not current, even old (GCC is at 4.5.3 with Chakra, Fedora 15 is at 4.6.1)
2. Apps: they are updated, literally, TO THE MINUTE. Actually, if I enable the Testing repo, I can have a KDE release hours BEFORE the official announcement.
3. Package Manager. The Chakra package manager, Appset-Qt, does not only manages packages; it manages INSTRUCTIONS TO MAKE THOSE PACKAGES WORK. So, you always see a channel with those instructions when you open your package manager. That is PRICELESS and MUST BE COPIED BY EVERY DISTRO.
How about a daily release and calling it "ubuntu sid". Why do people keep re-inventing wheels?
I for one am very happy with LTS cycle and for latest software, I just add the relevant PPAs, also for cutting edge, one can always enable proposed backports as well.
for some maybe you get lucky and find a ppa, but most of em you have to waste time trying to compile it yourself (if they actually compile) and there's no user friendliness in that..
see bug here:
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Also, kill Unity, Gnome3 and KDE4!!!
Actually the more I use Chakra on my laptop, the more I am beginning to like it. Its stable unlike other rolling releases, updates and even dist upgrades are flawless when done properly. It needs good old fashioned text file editing for certain features and that might intimidate some but nothing thats hard to achieve. As a veteran Linux user from early days of Gentoo, Debian and now Ubuntu, Chakra will turn out to be a superb KDE tribute now that Canonical has withdrawn support for Kubuntu project. The rolling release model of Chakra is idea for the daily, casual and even serious enterprise user.


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Hello from Pierre, the 88th Legislative Session.We have completed our sixth week of session and are nearing the end of the 2013 session. As we enter these last weeks of session we are working on a bipartisan economic development plan that will help to bring jobs to South Dakotans. This plan still has many moving parts but should come together quickly as we come to the close of session.We are worried about he effects federal sequestration will have on our budget and are taking that into consideration as we have our final budget deliberations. As the economy in South Dakota is still strong, we are in a good position to add some extra money into education and health care. Although many of these dollars would be considered a one-time investment, I would like to see this money be directed towards teachers bonuses and payment to our community health providers.The needs based scholarship program I've been working on is still in progress as we deliberate how many dollars we have left to spend. When there are a few extra dollars around there are always plenty of good ideas on how to spend that money.Thank you to all of you that have contacted me and please feel free to email me with your interests.I look forward to talking with you.
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Krystle Tanner, seen here in a March 12, 2012, booking photo, and her mother were convicted Tuesday of kidnapping Miguel Morin in 2004 when he was 8 months old and hiding him for eight years. / San Augustine Sheriff's Office/AP
An East Texas woman and her daughter were sentenced to prison Tuesday after being convicted of kidnapping a Houston boy when he was an infant and hiding him for eight years.
Jurors in San Augustine sentenced 51-year-old Gloria Walker to concurrent terms of 30 years for injury to a child and eight years for kidnapping. Her daughter, 27-year-old Krystle Tanner, received concurrent sentences of eight years for kidnapping and eight years for reckless injury to a child.
They were convicted earlier in the day for the 2004 abduction of Miguel Morin when he was was 8 months old.
Walker could have been sentenced to life in prison; Tanner faced a maximum 20 years.
Prosecutors said Tanner used to babysit the child and took him from his Houston apartment complex when he was 8 months old. She and Walker then renamed the boy Jaquan, moved around and kept him out of school to avoid being discovered.
Authorities began investigating Tanner in April 2010 after her newborn son tested positive for marijuana. She and her mother were arrested in March 2012.
Jurors rejected defense arguments that the boy's biological mother had actually sold him to Tanner or that it was a child-custody case, as a Houston police investigator testified.
Miguel has been placed with a Houston foster family that has taken care of his four siblings for nearly 10 years under an agreement with their parents.
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Day off in Buenos Aires. We set off this morning to go and visit what's left of Eva Peron, but the rain came down, so we took refuge in a series of coffee shops and spent the afternoon in idle chatter, which proved to be an admiral substitute for grave side visitations.
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Dolores is tall, slim, statuesque, with legs up to her armpits and long black hair held in a braid. Tanned, with dark eyes, she spoke charmingly broken English in a low voice and was wearing a short, low cut lace dress with high heeled tango shoes. In short, sex on a stick. First of all, she made us walk. "To Tango is to walk", she told us, "you must walk with your whole body, like theese... never like theese..." she demonstrated. Head up, chest out, bum tucked in, toes always in contact with the floor. We all circled the room, as she instructed... "head up... keep your feets straight... and don't forget your chest..." One of our crew guys, appropriately named 'Boomer', muttered in his Glaswegian accent "I won't forget yoour chest..."
Though at first seemingly impossible to master, we did begin to get into the Tango sway, which seems to consist of eight basic steps and a ton of attitude. Dolores taught us en masse, then would come by and take us on individually to make sure we were getting the hang of it. She got hold of me, and stepped me through motions one to five. Then the 'six', which is where you make the most major body contact possible whilst vertical. I was a little cautious, so she looks me right in the eye and in that dark brown velvet accent says slowly "you must put eet beetween my le..e..e..gs". She was talking about my left knee, so despite being on the point of slipping into a coma, I obliged. "Furrrr-therrr" she purred... I tell you some of the lads were struggling.
Afterwards we went for a meal next door and decided to take up Juan on his invitation to come to their tango 'salon'. I guess I was expecting some kind of show, a theatre or swanky nightclub vibe at very least, but it was entirely different. The place is comfortable but very plain, with tables and chairs surrounding a parquet dance floor. Simple curtains line the walls with a small bar at one end of the room and a commendably tatty mid-60's lighting system overhead. Juan, in his delight that we had come, sat us at his own table and made us extremely welcome. The clientele were the most extraordinary part of the place. They ranged in age from teenagers to geriatrics - the kind of cultural equivalent of an English workingmen's club. The place was packed. There were youngsters up on the dance floor, next to Uncle Ted and Auntie Flo turning a heel. There were older men with young girls, women of all ages and in all conditions, a few characters dotted around who looked remarkably like retired Nazi war criminals. The place was a casting director's dream - David Lynch would have a field day in here - but all of these people were brought together by this dance, this fluid motion, so delicate, so beautiful and so sensual. Everyone moving at their own pace, finding their own rhythm within the music, music like the soundtrack of a silent movie melodrama. This was the strangest dance, in the strangest situation, teetering precariously on a knife edge between being ultimately cool and completely naff, but either way I knew it. We were hooked.
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