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Neither the majority in Israel nor violent elements within Arab Palestine have shown a willingness to tolerate a two state solution. So the only way to get one is to push for solutions each would find even worse.
1) Say that Israel has in effect annexed the West Bank, and demand full rights including voting rights within Israel for all who live there.
2) Suggest going back to the pre-1967 borders, handing Gaza back to Egypt and the West Bank minus Jeruselam, whose status would be discussed later, back to Jordan, wiping out the independent Palestinian Authorities. And demand that the armies of Egypt and Jordan disarm the armed groups on their side of the border.
As to your 2nd proposal … 'I 2nd that emotion' … that is, a stable solution SINCE ISRAEL ALREADY HAS PEACE TREATIES WITH EGYPT AND JORDAN!
WT you are talking like the right owner. Who are you?? U are one of the barbaric Zionists who repelled innocent palestenians from their homes in their land. Do u think people will forget the atrocities the Jews have done to our women and children. Using your holy lie will not justify your crimes. why do we negotiate a part of of our land with people who their hands are stained with blood.
With guys like YOU … there's NOTHING to negotiate … since all of PRESENT DAY Israel TO YOU is not their sovereign land!
You said: "… people who their hands are stained with blood …"
What about Arab/Muslim hands?
What about Arab/Muslim atrocities to Jewish women and children?
What about Arab/Muslims using their 'holy lie' to justify their crimes?
There can be NO PEACE with your like! Only the sword! Don't expect mercy on the battlefield … the Jews/Zionists/Israelis ALREADY understand that VERY WELL. May YOU continue to suffer … pain … death … loss … in all your endeavours … Inshallah
This tzatz clown is just wanting to get banned.
"There can be NO PEACE with your like! Only the sword! Don't expect mercy on the battlefield"
This coward shows his true racist, bigoted, coward nature.
guest-inilmsw - there are plenty of Jewish people who are against Israel's crimes against the Palestinians. Please don't believe all Jews are psychotic nutcases. It amazes me that after all the Jewish suffering during the Holocaust, this coward (supposedly a Jew himself as he stated down below) wishes someone else "… pain … death … loss … in all your endeavours". Hopefully the Economist mods will lay a permanant ban. We don't need trash like this.
tzatz - you need to start taking your medications again.
You want to 'hold hands' with this thug:
"U are one of the barbaric Zionists who repelled innocent palestenians from their homes in their land. Do u think people will forget the atrocities the Jews have done to our women and children. Using your holy lie will not justify your crimes. why do we negotiate a part of of our land with people who their hands are stained with blood."
Make sure you've got both of his hands because the other has a knife that's going in your back! and make sure you've told him to take off his clothes to be sure he's not strapped a bomb to his body!
WAKE UP. This isn't a tea party circa 1760 … this is … Islamist Warfare circa 2013! Nothing but the elimination of the Jews/Zionists/Israelis would satisfy this 'slug' … may he suffer continued homelessness and suffering all the days of his life … INSHALLAH
Nah, I'm not holding hands with anyone. You're a racist and too much of a coward to come out and flatly admit that you think all brown people are evil. Opposing Zionism is not thuggary. If someone was kicking me out of my home becaues of some fairy tale that their skydaddy had promised them the land where I live, I would speak out against it too. Makes sense. Like I said tzatz - you're a hypocrite, a coward, and a racist. If Jewish people have anything to worry about, it's morons like you who go around preaching hate and intolerance. You're a very small "man" and a stain on the very Jewish people who you claim to represent. You were practically salivating at the thought of Israel nuking Arabs in your other post. You are a rather disgusting and pathetic excuse for a creature. It's people like you in the Israeli government and their policies that are the reason Hamas exists and is successful in getting recruits.
You said: ". It's people like you in the Israeli government and their policies that are the reason Hamas exists and is successful in getting recruits"
Hmm … Hamas is a Muslim Brotherhood organization … you should read their charter … it wasn't because of me that they wrote it … they wrote it because JEWS/ZIONISTS/ISRAELIS exist:
Here's a few excerpts:
'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)
'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
Hamas has said the war would end today if Israel would go back to the pre-1967 borders.
Furthermore, people like you ARE the reason Hamas can get recruits. Copying and pasting their charter just shows you don't have anything meaningful to add to the conversation. This doesn't refute my earlier statement.
Also, if you believe Hamas is a criminal organization, then you should also agree that Israel should be held responsible for creating Hamas in the first place to counter Arafat and the PLO's.
Blah … blah … blah
YOU believe Hamas? That's on YOU!
Article 11 from the Hamas Charter:
'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
Err … you think they're lying? Or let me put it this way … when they've renounced their charter and live peaceably within their own HAMASTAN for let's say 15 YEARS … without incidents … I'll believe them … BUT CERTAINLY NOT BEFORE …
There won't be any solution to the Palestine problem since Israel doesn't want one. It wants to be able to continue to occupy Arab land until it controls all of Palestine. The US can't do anything since its policies are determined by the Israel Lobby. As long as that is alive and well nothing will be done. One needs to stop pretending. Changing Israel policy toward the Palestinians is a lost cause.
Once more the Economist insists on believe its own rhetoric, refusing to ask any Israeli how to understand the election results. First, nearly all Israelis, including most in Labor party fault the Palestinians, not Israel for the lack of "progress" in negotiations. That is the reason why Lapid's new victory came about. Because this election was NOT about more single-sided compromises to the unworthy Pals (everyone agrees that Israel has given up all it reaonably can), the Likud party lost many votes to so-called "center" Yesh Atid party. This new party, which includes many hawks, will not push the Israel gov'ti to make further highly risky compromises. To wit, only the Euro bankrolled but hapless Tipi Livni and Meretz parties came out for more Israeli concessions.
In short, Israelis voted this time for DOMESTIC issues, principally for the integration of Israelis ultra orthodox Haredi into the economy and army - something that will further strengthen Israel considerably. The Economist can repeat mantras and beg Barak Obama to bully Israel as much as they want, but any fool can see that there will be no traction to these efforts, so long as the Pales and the Arab world undergo a major revolution in thinking and accept the Jews as a people, and as a people in the Land of Israel! The miniscule chance of that itself happening could only occur if The Economicist and Barack Obama start bullying the Palestininans to:
1) give up on the right of return including demanding the equalization of UNWRA to UNHCR in terms of funding and eligabilities.
2) Force the Pals to accept other non-Arab, non-Muslim nations culturally, epecially the Jewish nation.
3) Force the Pales to accept a small state in Gaza-North Sinai and a limited soverign state in 75% of Judea and Samaria.
Whats the chance of that happening? Zippo - only a fool can expect honesty/integrity from the petro$ funded Euro press houses like the Economist.
There should be absolutely no chance of forcing the Palestinians to accept a limited sovereign state in 75 per cent of the West Bank, because they are entitled to all of it and Israel is entitled to none of it
And the Basques are entitled to half of Spain (the other 25% belongs to Morocco, and remaining 25% to Castille)!
other cases: 1/3 of USA to Mexico.
get real! The Pales/arabs lost 2 wars of aggression (48 & 67). Time to wake up and face reality. The sooner they do, the better their children will grow up and live.
So Palestinians are pals? Right? I guess the Economist will now let us use similar derogatory terms for the Jewish people. I know a few. Actually, most of us do, including my white countrymen in the USA.
Pals is short (typing) for the word palestian. In case you didnt pick it up the first 4 letters are exactly the same (like most abbriviations). I do not denigrate any peoples for their external features (including their linguistic name).
Your respone, on the other hands indicates a quickness to judgement based on (gut-level prejudice) and stereotypes of Israeli supporters. Try reading the content of what I wrote and respond accordingly with relevance!
The absolutist positions like these is what got the Palestinians into the situation they find themselves in.
You'll find the same applies to the derogatory term for Pakistanis. It is now clear how you regard them.
The conflation of Palestinians with the unelected governments of Jordan and Egypt is another sleight of hand. The Palestinians had little to do with those wars other than as spectators (and, as you well know, refugees)
DID YOU FORGET THAT … BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1947 - MAY 1948 … the indigenous Arab/Muslims STARTED AND CARRIED OUT A CIVIL WAR against the pre-State Jewish Yishuv?
Look it up … as a matter of fact … they were so successful that the Jewish Haganah were taking it 'on the chin' … Benny Morris said in his book … they were actually 'winning' BUT then the 'new' arms came from abroad (Czech arms granted by Russia - a short lived 'honeymoon') … and then came May 1948 … when the Arab/Muslim States attacked …
And Haganah were simply singing kum-bay-ah at the time, I expect.
People in Cairo and Amman made the decisions in 1948 and 1967, not the people now resident in the Occupied Palestinian Territories
Don't be so dismissive !!!
The indigenous Arab/Muslims HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE NAQBA … THEY WEREN'T PAWNS … THEY WERE ACTORS IN THEIR OWN DOWNFALL !!!
Read a little … I understand it's good for expanding YOUR brain!
Sorry, I cannot see how running away from battles between Egypt and Israel, or Jordan and Israel, means that international law can suddenly be ignored and you can have your homeland taken away from you.
You need to read a little more, and perhaps learn a little about international law
International Law? The UNITED NATIONS voted to PARTITION Mandate Palestine into 2 States … one Arab and one Jew … THAT'S INTERNATIONAL LAW! You'll need to do better FTIB!
The indigenous Arab/Muslims waged a war against the Jews from 1936-1939 that was put down by the British authorities … and ended with the White Paper of 1939 which effectively STOPPED Jewish Immigration … and then after the British handed the 'problem' of Palestine back to the UNITED NATIONS … and all the investigations took place and there was a vote at the UNITED NATIONS for PARTITION IN NOVEMBER 1947 … the indigenous Arab/Muslims began a CIVIL WAR against the Jewish Yishuv …
If this is news to you … you're ignorant of the history … which makes you just an opinionated bigot … with a 'one trick pony' … YOUR 'vision' of what is International Law …
'You need to read a little more, and perhaps learn a little …'
Read the ICJ ruling on the Separation Barrier.
Honestly, it's an easy read, and will give you some insight into international law, which you currently badly lack.
You will see from that ruling that you are usually wrong on just about everything
If the Israelis choose to re-elect Mr. Netanyahu - the Palestinians have only themselves to thank.
I wonder what the US would do if Mexicans started shooting rockets into California and blowing up buses in Texas - in response to US withdrawing from San Diego. See how long Mexican government would last.
And would anyone in the right mind imagine US withdrawing from San Diego - or sharing it at least?
How about Britain giving up Gibraltar or at least returning the Falklands - which are thousands of miles away anyway, and to which there are neither historic nor ethnical claims?
It can't be correct to say that there are no historic claims: it is patently clear that there are. As for "ethnical" claims (whatever that means), the position of Britain is simply that the inhabitants should determine for themselves whether they wish to be governed by Britain or Spain or Argentina. Not a choice that is being presented to the inhabitants of the Occupied Palestinian Territories (well, not to those of them considered to be ethnically inferior, in any event)
Your argument does not hold water. The UK has populated these territories with British subjects (should we say settlers?), and then holds referendums, with the result - surprise! - they vote to stay so. By the way, this is not to criticise the UK - a great nation in its own right - but to show the hipocracy that major powers demonstrate when it come to their own self-interests.
The Falkland Islands were uninhabited.
Gibraltar is open to habitation by Spanish nationals.
Neither of these is consistent with the treatment of the indigenous Arabs in the Occupied Palestinian Territories
A better example is Northern Ireland, where the British behaved badly to start with, but when they improved their behaviour they drew the sting from all but the most ardent of republicans
But when will The Economist surrender to reality and publish an article with the far saner title "Give it up", at long last acknowledging the decease of the stillbirth "two-state solution"?
Let's face it, the whole "peace process" has just been a charade all along, allowing Israel to expand on the West Bank and entrench its control over that territory, while confining its Arab population into smaller and smaller reservations. Exactly the opposite of a road to independence. It was a master plan from a colonial regime to avoid the same fate as that other colonial regime of modern times, at the southern end of the African continent. Time to realize we've been conned and get "back on track" to decolonization.
Once again, TE refuses to stop rehashing old baggage and start thinking clearly. While TE supports the French Air forces flying 1,000 miles to stop Islammic terrorism from gaining a base in Mali, they cannot fathom why on earth Israel is refusing to grant terrorist Hamas a full soverign state hundreds of meters away!
Its high time to realize that negotiations with an Arab foe that refuses to even admit the legimitacy of the Jewish nation and the basic real historical facts related to Jewry - E.G. JEWISH TEMPLE on the TEMPLE MOUNT - cannot lead to any frutiful negotionations.
The Israeli public suffered terribly by Oslo accords. It lost thousands of innocent victims to terror, lost stratetgic lands, established a terror mini-state in Gaza (and a half-breath of another in Judea & Samaria), incurred internal division and for what? What did Israel gain from it?
It brought more and more pressure on it to give up more. So while Europe and America stand firm with their own interests they have to understand that Israel will not capitulate with its own. Whats more, Israel and Europe/America share the same interests! Radical Islam cannot be placted. It must be fought and subdued. The Islamic world must be made to ACCEPT other religions in their midst on in an equal standing. A Jewish State in Israel, maybe a Christian state in Lebanon and/or parts of Syria. Freedoms of worship in Egypt and in Saudi Arabia. When this happens a peace treaty will be real - not just a temporary truce to empowere the Arab side.
If anything was learned in the 20th century, it was that peace in Europe only became possible after Germany submitted UNCONDITIONALLY to the allies. Only the super foolhardy supported a peace treaty in 1943-4 - Preserving Nazi hold on power to continue its dominantion quest at a later, more convienient date. In fact, a negotiated peace in 1943-4 would have allowed Germany time to develop nuclear weapons (which were already in the works) and redress the entire strategic picture.
Its time TE and other press houses find the courge and show intellectual honesty and integrity to their readers and change the basic contours of their Arab-Israeli narrative. A real soverign Palestinian state will not happen and other solutions must be found.
So, you support a One State solution that remains a Jewish state? What solution do you have in mind? Forced conversion? Tiny Palestinian Bantustans? Mass deportation, a la Treaty of Lausanne style? Then who with? Such an irony of history indeed.
No. The Euro left likes to box everyone into extremist categories black and white in order to support their uncompromising stances.
Anyone seriously looking for a solution knows what it is:
1) No right of return period. Integration of Pales Arabs with their co-Arab brothers in Arab countries and/or immigration to Europe/NA/SAmer.
2) Gaza with long-term lease of land in Norther
Sinai - complete soveignty.
2) Judea and Samaria - two stage process. Stage 1: Area C - Israeli annexation including full rights to Palestinians living there. Full economic integration of Areas A & B with Israel. Full cultural and land-use planning autonomy in Areas A & B to Pales (like now). Slow cultural integration of Pales in A & B into Western democratic (i.e. not Arab nationalist) norms.
Stage 2: After westernization of Pal A & B residents including demise of terror and nationalist ideologies - Full rights to Palestinians in A & B within Israel proper.
No need of transfer. Throw your dogma out the window! Pals get raised standard of living, human rights, womens rights, minority rights, good education, good health, happy children. All what millions of Arab/muslim immigrants to Europe/America are begging to get, risking purse and limb in illegal immigration to acheive it.
Forgot to add to last paragraph :clean govenrment and the demise of stultifying, hate-filled zero-sum ideology fully prevalent in the Arab world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63hTOaRu7h4 - it's so clear to open-minded, and yet incomprehensible to economist
Novel Laurette US President Barack Obama's name and contribution will be written in the golden pages of history if he could permanently settle the Palestine-Israel conflicts.The independence of Palestine is the only viable solution of the long-standing problem. The USA should not illegitimately support all the controversial activities and policies of Israel.The democracy of Israel is aided by the US financial assistance.The life and living conditions of the Palestinians are so miserable.They are often killed by the Israeli force.Human rights violation is a serious problem in the border region of Palestine and Israel.Israeli military is allegedly violating the international laws and established norms.They are very aggressive,inhumane and cruel.So for the sake of humanity we want a two-state solution.In the case of the Palestine socioeconomic development is totally unthinkable without freedom, independence and autonomy.
Novel Laurette US President Barack Obama's name and contribution will be written in the golden pages of history if he could permanently settle the Palestine-Israel conflicts.The independence of Palestine is the only viable solution of the long-standing problem.US should not illegitimately support the all controversial activities and policies of Israel.The democracy of Israel is aided by the US financial assistance.
this article lost all credibility in the first paragraph when the author said most of the blame lies with netanyahu. while i don't agree with most of the stuff bibi does, and i will express that at the ballot box tomorrow when i don't vote for a right wing party, to suggest that he bears most responsibility is shortsighted and obtuse.
our neighbors want us dead. it is in both fatah and hamas charters. they preach our death in their schools and their leaders (yes abbas our supposed peace partner) names parks and streets after terrorists who have killed innocent people.
the duration of this conflict doesn't span bibi's term. everything comes back to them wanting us dead. we get us tax payer money (mine included as i am dual citizen and pay us taxes as well) because of our countries' similar political structure and emphasis on freedom and liberty, and the us connection with israel is what drives the money to come here. stop wanting us dead, we won't need as much defense capabilities, the money flow to israel will decrease. it's that simple.
Many Palestinians want you dead, but many Isrealis have killed Palestinian Arabs. Is there an innocent party? No. Make peace. I no longer support dual citizenship, as it only gives shelter to sickos like Jeremy Gimpel.
If you kicked me out of my house in the middle of the night and bull dozed my home, I too would be attacking you. It's Israeli policy that allows groups like Hamas to recruit ordinary Arabs. Unfortunately, you want to live in a fantasy world where you are being attacked for simply being the chosen people of your skydaddy.
You said: " It's Israeli policy that allows groups like Hamas to recruit ordinary Arabs"
'ordinary Arabs' … how do they differ from the terror thugs?
Do 'ordinary Arabs' believe the Islamist drivel that gives them 72 virgins in Paradise for blowing up Israelis in cafes?
Do 'ordinary Arabs' believe the anti-Semitic drivel spouted by Hamas … things like 'Jews are sons of Apes and Pigs'?
Are these 'ordinary Arabs'?
'You want to live in a fantasy world' … that's on YOU! Wake up!
The fact is that injustice and mistreatment radicalises the victims of that injustice and the mistreated. This is not an exclusively Palestinian phenomenon.
You said: "… injustice and mistreatment radicalises the victims of that injustice and the mistreated …"
Let me know about ALL YOU KNOW ABOUT the 'radical' JEWISH gangs marauding across Europe taking revenge on those that victimized them … killing … murdering … raping … burning … stealing …
[PS 'Inglorious Basterds' was a fictional film account] LOL
This is not an exclusively Palestinian phenomenon?
BUT … I DIGRESS … the indigenous Arab/Muslims were actors in their own play … they were not MERELY pawns … they PERPETRATED ACTS OF WAR … and they REAPED THE RESULTS OF LOSING THAT WAR! The Naqba falls on their shoulders as well as the REJECTIONIST ARAB/MUSLIM STATES: Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq et al
Firstly, the preamble to UNSC resolution 242 makes no distinction for "defensive" conflicts - it just says that you can't acquire territory through conflict, full stop. Secondly, most of the Palestinians did nothing more than run away from the fighting between two countries that they were not citizens of.
So, you are factually incorrect, and legally incorrect, as usual
"The first point addressed by the resolution is the "inadmissability of the acquisition of territory by war." Some people read 242 as though it ends here and the case for requiring a total Israeli withdrawal from the territories is proven. On the contrary, this clause does no such thing, because the reference clearly applies only to an offensive war. If not, the resolution would provide an incentive for aggression. If one country attacks another, and the defender repels the attack and acquires territory in the process, the former interpretation would require the defender to return the land it took. Thus, aggressors would have little to lose because they would be insured against the main consequence of defeat."
Had to check to make sure it wasn't April fools.
Like Israel will ever allow a 2 state solution or give everyone in Israel and Palestine citizenship......
We all know what will happen, Israel will annex more land, build more settlements, the Palestinians will get squeezed on to less and less land, the occupation will continue, Americans will go to the mall.
For the Economist to keep on publishing stuff like this makes it not look like a serious magazine. Israel will do what it wants and America will let it, there is no downside, the have the monopoly of force and can kill anyone who fights back.
A Palestinian state, yeah maybe Atlantis will rise up as well and we will find that Elvis and Tupac are living there as well.
Yeah Obama needs to show America's favor to Israel is not like China's to North Korea
I guess Jewish Americans need to show that they are Americans before they are Jewish.
I guess Muslim Americans need to show that they are Americans before they are Muslims.
tzatz - You obviously have hatred and bigotry towards Muslims. This is another one of your countless posts in this discussion trying to bring Islam and Muslims in general into a discussion that's actually on Obama's handling of Israel. You respond to every criticism of Israel, to every post advocating we Americans cut welfare for Israel, by blaming Muslims and everyone else. Perhaps you should take a look in the mirror. After all, you believe in the same sky daddy as the muslim terrorists. You try to hide the fact that a sizable portion of Israel actually believes that gentiles were created by your sky daddy to serve Jews. You are a racist, and you try to hide your arrogance by simply posting insults at people who disagree with you.
You tell people to worry about Islam, to worry about Kashmir, to do anything and everything but look at what Israel has been doing and what its doing now. As an American, its my right to choose where my tax dollar goes, and I certainly don't want these fanatical backwards people in Israel who don't work a day in their life believing in some fantasy that "GOD" will provide for them when in reality they're benefiting off my hard work. You sir are a disgrace, and you should start taking your medication again.
Thanks for the lecture dad … LOL
I'm not responding to criticism of Israel … I'm responding to LIES … INSULTS … against Jews/Israelis/Zionists!
I won't stop!
It's not Muslims I'm blaming … it's Islamists/Islamism/Political Islam that is TWISTING Arab/Muslims into false beliefs … on behalf of their supposed 'big prophet' …
Your BS … is trivial and simplistic … sky daddy and 'gentiles were created by your sky daddy to serve" … are loathsome hate speech … LOOK INTO YOUR OWN HEART … don't have one … just as I suspected Jarhead!
I did take my meds … in Cali on Venice Beach … it's easy to get a 'Medical Marywanna Card' … $40 for a consult … REALLY … NOT!!!
But I digress … Jarhead … keep the faith … I love Americans … I married one and my son's are both dual citizens … I prefer being a simple Canadian though I do like the southern weather … except when I have to meet people like YOU. New York and L.A. are fine … Florida is nice but the interior of the country is full of guys like YOU.
The Muslim religious problem isn't any different from the Jewish and Christian one. All these religions are responsible for blood shed. Suicide bombers use suicide vests. Israel on the other hand uses political influence to get Washington to send its poor to die for them using much more advanced weaponry.
Hate speech? How am I spewing hate speech? By pointing out facts that show what a liar and hypocrite you are?
Ovadia Yosef is the former Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel. Before you keep insulting others (including arabs or muslims or even me), why don't you condemn your own brothers for their hate speech you hypocrite? It's interesting you accuse others of false beliefs but yet you refuse to condemn your own people for their false beliefs. What a troll.
Ovadia who? Did he send 'suicide bombers' to kill innocents in cafes? Let me know!
Look into your own motives … I could give a shit!
Your own people demonstrate gross racism and you don't care. You're a racist against non-Jews, and you fail to condemn this pathetic excuse of a living person Ovadia Yosef because you believe in the same fantasies. Your hypocrisy is the worst of humanity. And Ovadia doesn't need to send suicide bombers. One of the Chief Rabbis of Israel has enough influence on the government to carry out the acts for him. People like him the reason why Israeli fighter jets break the sound barrier at low altitude to terrorize Palestinian children.
Ovadia who? I don't support his views! I never have or never will!
He's just another 'queen' all dressed up as a 'pope' … are you kidding me?
Let me know when an ISRAELI PM says something like that! Then I'll be upset.
As for low flying jets breaking the sound barrier? I CAN'T HEAR YOU! There's jets overhead! LOL
You think terrorizing children is funny. Ovadia represents the views of the Israeli government. Being one of the Chief Rabbis of Israel spewing such hatred, they would have condemned him for what he said. And don't try to hide the fact that you support him. You believe in the same fairy tale religion like the rest of your "brothers".
You think terrorizing children is funny. Ovadia represents the views of the Israeli government. Being one of the Chief Rabbis of Israel spewing such hatred, they would have condemned him for what he said. And don't try to hide the fact that you support him. You believe in the same fairy tale religion like the rest of your "brothers".
He's the Sephardic Chief Rabbi … he's NOT a political leader
When Netanyahu listens to him … then I'll know he's a political leader … but not before!
The Economist is becoming a big joke.
So to you unbiased reporting is a joke? It's called 'balance'. Look it up in a dictionary.
What makes you think I don't have multiple conversations with my representative in Congress about the tax dollars we spend on other nations? Why would you be so presumptuous? Beside I never said it was your call, I simply answered your question.
Keep your Google references on Israel's GDP, it doesn't matter to me. Furthermore, if it's important for you that there is some illusion called a Jewish people as some tribal thing, fine, it's not to me, but whatever, but you'd have a hard time defining it.
But say, you're probably a very nice person and it's been nice bantering with you.
Let's depart friends and have a nice day.
Past Presidents saw a real opportunity for progress in the Middle East and invested their prestige in peace efforts. Given the dismal prospects for any real deal between Israel and the Palestinians, and the certainty that Congress will give Israel 100% financial and diplomatic backing under all possible scenarios, Obama would be wasting his time. He's too smart to do that. Obama wants his legacy in 2016 to be a recovered economy, a solid health care program for the uninsured and a strong American position in emerging Asia. To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, Israel and the Palestinians are "old problems" and not amenable to any solution. Obama will sign the checks to Israel and Egypt and say all the right things about peace, but do nothing.
Dear Silly tzatz -
Actually I do care, because Israel is an apartheid state and I'm financing it. Israel controls everything from the Jordan river to the Med. sea yet with two sets of laws, one for Jews and another, oppressive, if not illegal set of laws for Palestinians. Even Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela consider Israel an apartheid state.
You totally miss the point. Those Jews who are part of the 'campaigns' I've spoken about care very, very deeply about Israel and its wayward ways. That's why they actively work very, very hard for Israel's well being. You seem to fall into the hole that those who don't agree with you or see it your way don't care about Israel.
You prove my point with your alleged Israel GDP figure that Israel shouldn't need any money from the USA but it does need these funds, apparently. If the GDP is so profound why do half the holocaust survivors who live there live under the poverty line, huh?
I know "Jew" is not a religion, Judaism is the religion. But your point about Jews belong to a Jewish people is unconvincing since your original use suggested that the "Jewish people" all thought the same or at least agreed with you. Besides with all the Jews I know their concern about the "Jewish people" causes them to support the international BDS movement. If you want them under that umbrella, fine but don't say the don't care about Israel.
Finally, yeah, I do have a problem with other $$$$ sent to other countries.
You said: "I do have a problem with other $$$$ sent to other countries."
Speak to your congressman/woman … let them know. It's NOT my call.
Re. Israel's GDP …
Google Israel's GDP … here's the link: https://www.google.ca/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=dQ1HMV0v...
The Jewish People NEVER DID SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE. They don't today … we're all granted the gift of life with a brain to use and a will to make choices … that's just being HUMAN. But thanks for acknowledging there is a Jewish People.
Israelis and Zionist Christians have been spreading a lie that all Israel gets is $3 billion from our country that Israel has to use to buy weapons from America.
Add to that loan guarantees-
In addition, the military funding for Israel is handled differently than it is for other countries. Israel's $3 billion is put almost immediately into an interest-bearing account with the Federal Reserve Bank. The interest, collected by Israel on its military aid balance, is used to pay down debt from earlier Israeli non-guaranteed loans from the United States.
Another unique aspect of the assistance package is that about 25 percent of it can be used to buy arms from Israeli companies. No other country has that privilege, according to a September 2010 CRS report.
Look for a minute at the bizarre formula that has become an element of U.S.-Israel military aid, the so-called qualitative military edge (QME). Enshrined in congressional legislation, it requires certification that any proposed arms sale to any other country in the Middle East "will not adversely affect Israel's qualitative military edge over military threats to Israel."
In 1973, for instance, Arab nations attacked Israel in an attempt to win back territories Israel had conquered in the 1967 war. President Nixon resupplied Israel with US arms, triggering the Arab oil embargo against the US.
That shortfall in oil deliveries kicked off a deep recession. The US lost $420 billion (in 2001 dollars) of output as a result, Stauffer calculates. And a boost in oil prices cost another $450 billion.
Afraid that Arab nations might use their oil clout again, the US set up a Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That has since cost, conservatively, $134 billion, Stauffer reckons.
The sad thing is, Israelis believe it is their right - that their god has made them some superior chosen race. "Gentiles are made to serve Jews" - I never forget this statement from one of Israel's top rabbis who was never condemned for this by the Israeli government.
US Jewish charities and organizations have remitted grants or bought Israel bonds worth $50 billion to $60 billion. Though private in origin, the money is "a net drain" on the United States economy, says Stauffer.
• The US has already guaranteed $10 billion in commercial loans to Israel, and $600 million in "housing loans." (See editor's note below.) Stauffer expects the US Treasury to cover these.
• The US has given $2.5 billion to support Israel's Lavi fighter and Arrow missile projects.
• Israel buys discounted, serviceable "excess" US military equipment. Stauffer says these discounts amount to "several billion dollars" over recent years.
• Israel uses roughly 40 percent of its $1.8 billion per year in military aid, ostensibly earmarked for purchase of US weapons, to buy Israeli-made hardware. It also has won the right to require the Defense Department or US defense contractors to buy Israeli-made equipment or subsystems, paying 50 to 60 cents on every defense dollar the US gives to Israel.
US help, financial and technical, has enabled Israel to become a major weapons supplier. Weapons make up almost half of Israel's manufactured exports. US defense contractors often resent the buy-Israel requirements and the extra competition subsidized by US taxpayers.
• US policy and trade sanctions reduce US exports to the Middle East about $5 billion a year, costing 70,000 or so American jobs, Stauffer estimates. Not requiring Israel to use its US aid to buy American goods, as is usual in foreign aid, costs another 125,000 jobs.
• Israel has blocked some major US arms sales, such as F-15 fighter aircraft to Saudi Arabia in the mid-1980s. That cost $40 billion over 10 years, says Stauffer.
Israel is nothing without my country's support.
Hmm … so you've done your research … nice
Stauffer … he's a popular economist/engineer? He writes in the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs? Woopee!
Your research is limited to Stauffer … because his views on Israel coalesce with your own views … that's OK … it's a big world and only 13.5 MILLION JEWS!
Nice try at dodging the facts. You can use Google and come to the same conclusions yourself. You try to discredit my post by stating "Your research is limited to Stauffer". Even if I post 10 other sources, you'll still reply with childish post that spews your arrogance. Also, writing with all caps only highlights your ignorance and arrogance. It doesn't conceal it. You lost. Go home.
You said: "Arab nations attacked Israel …"
Stop right there! Arab nations attacked Israel … on the holiest day of the Jewish calendar … Yom Kippur … the Day of Atonement … while Israel's armed forces were at their lowest alertness … an UNPROVOKED ATTACK … and yes let's give it up to the Egyptians and the Syrians … they did score some points in the 'first quarter' but THERE ARE 4 QUARTERS TO A GAME!
Yes … NIXON did re-supply Israel with arms needed URGENTLY … in order to allow the IDF to continue the fight … BUT IT WAS THE IDF THAT WIPED THE FLOOR WITH THE ARAB ARMIES OF EGYPT AND SYRIA … ENDING UP 60 MILES FROM BOTH CAIRO AND DAMASCUS BEFORE THE RUSSIANS THREATENED THE AMERICANS TO CALL OFF THE ISRAELI WAR MACHINE!
Yes … I recall it very well … BTW … both Sadat and Assad Sr. considered that war as a 'victory' for the Arab/Muslims … but they keep count in a 'peculiar' way … LOL
The Arab OIL BOYCOTT should be a lesson for all of the WEST who depend on OIL … DON'T DEPEND ON ARAB/MUSLIMS … perhaps a shot to the head of Saudi Arabia would have changed the situation make him/them realize WHAT'S REALLY AT STAKE … LIKE THEIR PRIVILEGED LIVES !!! But I digress.
The Jihadis emanate from Saudi Arabia … 15 of the 19 … 9/11 Bombers came from Saudi Arabia … Bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia … Saudi Arabia finances the Jihadis to do their business 'OVER THERE' RATHER THAN AT HOME! THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL BE SWALLOWED UP BY THE ARAB AWAKENING … but THEY'RE NEXT! Sucks to be them! They HATE the USA … yet didn't you see Obama BOW DOWN to their King? George Bush holding the King's hand? What's up with that? HOW MUCH DOES SAUDI ARABIA SPEND ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO 'SMOOTH/GREASE THE WHEELS' OF GOVERNMENT? WAKE UP … IT'S THE JIHADIS THAT HATE AMERICA AND ISRAEL TOGETHER … 'Little Satan' and 'BIG SATAN' … HOW COME THE JIHADIS KNOW WHO THEIR ENEMIES ARE and YOU DON'T?
It sounds as if you are very afraid. Why the need to constantly post in all caps? Also, why is a history lesson? We all went to school. Furthermore, our relations with the Arabs/Muslims are none of your concern. We have successfully installed dictators in every Arab/Muslim nation that has opposed us, and every regime that has stopped working for us or crossed us has been overthrown or is in the process of being overthrown. We're the most powerful military in the world, and anyone who would try to cross us would face their destruction, including Israel. The Arabs attacked Israel because they didn't want a Jewish country in the Middle East and they certainly didn't want to hand over Jerusalem to non-Muslims. I'm not sure what the point of your childish banter is. Everyone's read a history book. You just went completely off topic from what I had posted and way off topic from the original Economist article. Are you scared? Obviously you are.
While the Zionists are overrepresented in the White House and Congress and the Senate, but not on the street, this conspiracy will continue.
It's ONLY Stauffer … ignoramous!
Couldn't find Chomsky … that great linguist to quote?
Then why do the POLLS always favour the Israelis over the Arab/Muslims in the Arab/Israeli Conflict?
The street says … YOU"RE wrong! LOL
Islamists are on the rise in the world … bin Laden is dead but Islamism/Islamists/Political Islam is on the rise.
If you're unaware of that fact … you're to be pitied … or maybe you're a believer yourself.
As for the rest of the West …
[INCLUDING Britain's David Cameron … France's Francois Hollande … Canada's Stephen Harper … who have sent 'help' to Mali]
we need to take 'Islamists' seriously … they 'believe' their BS and want to take over the world …
Political Islam is a different issue, and it's one that we've actually created to counter Arab dictators. As a matter of fact, Israel created Hamas - they attempted to harvest political Islam to counter Arafat and Fatah.
However, the issue at hand here in this discussion is Israel, its unwillingness to negotiate and its arrogance. You are so narrowminded that you dish insults at me personally, try to call me a muslim "believer", and you constantly attempt to change the subject from Israel - the topic of this Economist article - to muslims. You sound terrified. You don't want America to cut the funding. Your greed defines you. You have a constant nag at trying to divert the course of the discussion into something thats off topic. Sure political Islam is problematic. Other problems include tackling equality, gay marriage, gun laws, etc. However, none of them are related to the issue at hand, and your constant need to hide Israel's crimes by blaming everyone and anyone BUT Israel only proves that you've backed into a corner, and you're scared.
If there's crimes … where's the judge and jury? How come NO ONE HAS TAKEN IT TO THE COURTS?
BTW … when the Mavi Marmora Incident occurred … Turkey wanted to take Israel to the courts … and sent it to the UNITED NATIONS … well the committee EXONERATED THE ISRAELIS … THEY DIDN'T THROW THEM IN JAIL … THEY ABSOLVED THEM
The same is true of the GOLDSTONE REPORT … while it was mean spirited and toxic … Goldstone recanted and the Hamas 'big shots' admitted to greater numbers of the dead being HAMAS TERROR THUGS than reported by Goldstone! So again … Israel was/is absolved …
It's not that Israel is perfect … it's far from perfect but when you compare it to the Arab/Muslim states and people … THERE'S NO COMPARISON … The Arab/Muslim's are NOT COPING WITH MODERNITY and that's NOT ISRAEL'S DOING … THAT'S THEIR CULTURAL DEFICITS …
50% of the ARAB/MUSLIM POPULATION … under the age of 22 w/o jobs/hope
50% of the ARAB/MUSLIM POPULATION … ILLITERATE
50% of the ARAB/MUSLIM POPULATION … DISCRIMINATED including women and minorities (including Kurds, Druze, CHRISTIANS, Bahais et al)
I'm scared of what will transpire in the coming few years … with the Arab/Muslims and Israel … YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!
2013 may not be the Year but a 'nuclear mistake' is on its way … the Muslims better watch out …
That's a nightmare I DON'T WISH ON THE WORLD but it's a possibility …
BTW … any question that the Economist puts on about Israel … ALWAYS MORPHS INTO A LONG HATE SCREED ON ALL THINGS JEW/ISRAEL/ZIONIST … Hello?
The stupidity you display is astounding. Israel violates not one or two but dozens of UN resolutions. It's primarily the U.S. on the security council that vetos the resolutions because of pressure from the Christian groups in the Republican party (who believe they have to protect Israel because their skydaddy commands them to) and the Jewish financiers of the Democrats. The rest of the world is very much against Israel's policies.
"Israel ranked alongside Iran as one of countries with most negative global influence"
Hamas' actions are a response to Israeli policy. Israel continues demolishion of Palestinian homes. We're not talking about 1967 or 48, we're talking in the present day. If you post a sign on someone's door telling them to evacuate in 24 hours and then demolish their home to expand your illegal settlements, of course they're going to attack you.
Your insistence on bringing the radical Muslim problem into this discussion - which is largely unrelated to the topic of the Economist article only shows your desperation. In your other posts, you go insulting me personally.
"I'm scared of what will transpire in the coming few years … with the Arab/Muslims and Israel … YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!"
If there is a nuclear mistake, that sucks for Israel - because Muslims have over a dozen countries, and it would take only a few nuclear warheads to completely disintegrate Israel, no?
But the whole nuclear thing is another Zionist lie. Iran never threatened to obliterate Israel. This is your lie. Iran wants Jerusalem in Muslim control, no? They want an Israeli government replaced by a Palestinian one. How does the nuclear holocaust narrative then work? It doesn't. You're a liar and a hypocrite. Norman Finklestein wrote a book on people such as yourselves who exploit Jewish suffering in the Holocaust to further your political agenda. Shame on you coward.
He's almost salivating over the possibility of a nuclear "mistake" that hurts Arabs. It's almost incredibly how so much hatred can fit into a single soul
Yes … hatred for Islamists/Islamism/Political Islam … it just so happens that Muslims are the ones who are the believers of this BS … why is that on me?
Don't snicker at the possibility of a nuclear mistake … TODAY … North Korea BOLDLY made it clear they're not stopping the advancement of their nuclear ambitions … and they like to 'sell' their technology and arms to those 'not clever enough' to make them themselves! YOU KNOW WHO?
Well … wherever you live FTIG … remember it was me … that warned you …
What does North Korea have to do with this discussion? Again, you try to change the topic. And the only one snickering at the possibility of any nuclear mistake is you. Just as Fernando put it, it's clear that you wish there actually was a nuclear war with Arabs. You want to see them die. And the fact is, nuclear weapons can't be used against groups like Al Qaeda, because they hide among civilians. This leads me to my next point that you're a racist who isn't even man enough to confess how he really feels. You would like to see all the Arabs dead.
How did the Zionists get "overrepresented in the White House and Congress and the Senate"?
This is AMERICA we're talking about? They must have been elected in a free and fair election … by a people who are free to vote their consciences … in the land of the free and the home of the brave!
So what's your point about the 'street'?
Do you mean the 'Arab street'? That happens in the Arab/Muslim World where they like to march in squares … molest/intimidate women who show up … shoot off guns into the air and shout 'allu akbar' … the only 'Arab street' in the USA are the ones that have falafel stands! LOL
Sounds to me like you eaten too many 'SOUR GRAPES' … LOL
What the Economist did not mention is the immense pressure on President Obama from Congress. These Senators and Representatives bow only to the special interests of the extreme religious nuts. They believe that Jews are the chosen people of their sky daddy, that we must use our tax dollars to fund and sponsor them, that if we do not give Israel a free pass on everything it does their god will destroy us. Its a racist ideology, and these people should have no place in government.
Whoever comes to power following the upcoming general elections in Israel, it's difficult to ignore the US, the main ally and benefactor of Israel. As such, it falls on Obama, that he should deliver on his twin promises- persuading or even forcing Israel on reversing its settlements drive in the West Bank, and bringing it round negotiations with the Palestinians to seek a two-state solution to the long festering Israel-Palestine problem, as laid down under the Oslo agreement.
Maybe Jai … he should turn his attentions to the problem of KASHMIR … you know between the MUSLIM Pakistanis and the HINDU Indians … they're always fighting over that 'piece of real estate' … maybe Obama would be wise to 'tackle' that problem …
After all … both sides have nuclear weapons and it would be MOST UNFORTUNATE if ANOTHER war between these 2 states occurred … wouldn't it?
"Maybe Jai … he should turn his attentions to the problem of KASHMIR … you know between the MUSLIM Pakistanis and the HINDU Indians … they're always fighting over that 'piece of real estate' … maybe Obama would be wise to 'tackle' that problem …"
You do realise that the Kashmiris on the Indian side of the line are citizens not refugees like the Palestinians inthe OPT ? There would not be a problem if Israel took he people as well as the land.
Neither of those countries are about to use nuclear weapons. Its mutually assured destruction if they do. This is just a pathetic attempt at changing the topic at hand from Israels crimes onto something unrelated.
What Obama should however consider is that Israel is a liability and a cause for resentment against America throughout Arab lands. We cannot continue paying this price, and peopke in this country should consider leaving for Israel. If your alliegance is to Israel over the U.S. you have no reason to be here.
This guy saw your name, thought you were Indian, and starting talking about Kashmir. You will never get a straight answer from a Zionist. You are right - Obama needs to deliver. Obama is now getting a bit fed up with Bibi - here is the latest from Obama in The Atlantic:
Immediately after the U.S. went to bat for Israel at the United Nations in late November, voting against a resolution that called for upgrading the status of the Palestinians (the resolution passed overwhelmingly), the government of the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, turned around and announced, over U.S. objections, that it would begin planning a new settlement in a geographically sensitive area of the West Bank. It was a thumb in the eye of the Palestinian Authority, which proposed the U.N. resolution, and it was a bit of a slap at the U.S., which has consistently counseled Israel against settlement expansion.
"In my Bloomberg View column this week, I describe Obama's reaction to Netanyahu's tactics:
When informed about the Israeli decision, Obama, who has a famously contentious relationship with the prime minister, didn't even bother getting angry. He told several people that this sort of behavior on Netanyahu's part is what he has come to expect, and he suggested that he has become inured to what he sees as self-defeating policies of his Israeli counterpart.
In the weeks after the UN vote, Obama said privately and repeatedly, "Israel doesn't know what its own best interests are." With each new settlement announcement, in Obama's view, Netanyahu is moving his country down a path toward near-total isolation.
And if Israel, a small state in an inhospitable region, becomes more of a pariah -- one that alienates even the affections of the U.S., its last steadfast friend -- it won't survive. Iran poses a short-term threat to Israel's survival; Israel's own behavior poses a long-term one.
The dysfunctional relationship between Netanyahu and Obama is poised to enter a new phase. Next week, Israeli voters will probably return Netanyahu to power, this time at the head of a coalition even more intractably right-wing than the one he currently leads."
The Israeli President is now so alarmed at Bibi's tactics - this is what he had to say (from The Guardian, London):
"Netanyahu aides accused Obama of interfering in the Israeli election following publication of an article by Jeffrey Goldberg, which quoted the president as saying: "Israel doesn't know what its own best interests are." Obama, wrote Goldberg, viewed Netanyahu as a "political coward".
The Israeli president, Shimon Peres, who has voiced alarm at the rupture between the two leaders, was due to meet a delegation of US senators, led by Republican John McCain, in Jerusalem on Saturday night to discuss strengthening strategic relations between the two allies.
"We must not lose the support of the United States. What gives Israel bargaining power in the international arena is the support of the United States... Without US support, it would be very difficult for us. We would be like a lone tree in the desert," he told the New York Times last week.
The Goldberg article, along with Obama's nomination of Chuck Hagel as defence secretary, has been interpreted in Israel as clear signs of the president's exasperation with Netanyahu and possible payback for the latter's support of Obama's rival, Mitt Romney, in the US election in November. Hagel is seen as "anti-Israel" because of his questioning of Israeli government policy and the pro-Israel lobby in the US.
Goldberg, who is known to be close to the president, wrote that Israel risked becoming "more of a pariah" and that Obama was reluctant to invest fresh effort in the Middle East peace process in the face of Netanyahu's continued settlement expansion."
How are the Muslims in Kashmir treated? Let me know how 'they feel' about their being in Hindu Kashmir?
Otherwise … why the fussing and fighting? Why the 2 MAJOR WARS? Why the NUCLEAR WEAPONS THREAT?
You said: "… Obama should however consider is that Israel is a liability and a cause for resentment against America throughout Arab lands …"
This is called 'LINKAGE' … as if EVERY PROBLEM in the Arab/Muslim Middle East REVOLVES around the Arab/Israeli Conflict!
So riddle me this …
What does the Tunisian revolt against Ben Ali have to do with the Arab/Israeli Conflict?
What does the Libyan revolt against Gaddafi have to do with the Arab/Israeli Conflict?
What does the Egyptian coup d'état against Mubarak have to do with the Arab/Israeli Conflict?
What does the Syrian Civil War have to do with the Arab/Israeli Conflict?
The Jews can live in America as long as they like! It's NOT your call! You should leave for other parts of the globe if YOU DON'T LIKE AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY! Hello?
You quoted the following STATEMENT from Obama: "Israel doesn't know what its own best interests are."
Put that statement BEFORE any other sovereign country on Planet Earth!!
Who would accept such a PREPOSTEROUS notion?
What cheek? What gall? What chutzpah?
To say that YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SOVEREIGN NATION STATE'S LEADER?
Wake up.
Your attempts to isolate the sovereign Jewish State are futile. The Jewish People are …
NEVER going to allow themselves to be 'chased' from their own country
NEVER going to 'farm out' their defense to another country
NEVER going to allow themselves to wait for the 'first blow' to be struck AGAINST them rather THEY WILL STRIKE FIRST
President Peres … a 90 Year Old is afraid of the future … but the Jewish People are OPTIMISTIC how could they not be otherwise?
The arabs are rising against vicious dictatorships that we've helped impose on them by supporting and funding said dictators (to actually protect Israel). I never said every problem in the Middle East revolves around the Arab/Israeli conflict. You stated that yourself. I simply mentioned that our unwavering support for Israel's crimes has given us a bad rep among ordinary Arabs who otherwise share many of the same ideals as we do in America - hence, they're trying to overthrow these regimes.
I suppose English isn't your best subject.
Also - I shouldn't have to leave for anywhere. I served my country during the first Gulf War. Furthermore, I'm not saying Jews need to leave America. However, IF your alliegance is to Israel and not the U.S., yes, you need to get out of this country. You are a traitor and have no right to be here. I would rather have a thousand illegal immigrants from Latin America who would come here to build a better life for themselves instead of Israelis who simply want to come here to control our government policy to benefit their home base.
Lastly, you use of all caps just shows anger and weakness. This country is slowly waking up to your crimes, and we're slowly abandoning the fantasy religious beliefs.
"NEVER going to 'farm out' their defense to another country"
Actually, Israel does that all the time. We defend Israel in the UN, time and time again, with all of its violations of UN resolutions (dozens of them). We defend Israel militarily with financial and economic aid. We defend Israel by supporting crazy dictators in surrounding countries who would fight alongside Israel against Iran. You are either very ignorant or making calculated posts purposely spreading lies.
"NEVER going to allow themselves to wait for the 'first blow' to be struck AGAINST them rather THEY WILL STRIKE FIRST "
By all means - go for it. Just stop trying to get me and my fellow Americans involved in your battles. Look, I know you believe that gentiles were created to serve Jews - one of your countries top Rabbis said that (and none of your leaders condemned him) - but learn to fight your battles. I don't believe in your fairytales. I don't care about Jerusalem. You want it - you fight for it. Stop leeching off our money and trying to send our men and women to die for you.
Why bring in India-Pakistan dispute whenever Israel-Palestine problem is mentioned, as there seems no comparable common grounds between the two disputes. Again, like Israel, Pakistan might be the US ally and aid beneficiary but not India. As for the Indian nuclear bomb, what about the Israeli bomb? Finally, India-Pakistan negotiations to normalise ties and even on Kashmir, though marked with frequent disruptions, are not always closed, like the Israel-Palestine one. So, don't get irritated on Israel-Palestine problem, nor try to divert attention by bringing in extraneous factors.All the best, and thanks for joining debate.
Didn't go for the GI Bill? Didn't get that Ivy League education you 'though' you deserved? Too bad. Your fight in Iraq was a waste of blood and treasure! Too bad. Your service while dangerous and brave … was a wasted effort! Much like the Afghanistan War …
Arab/Muslims are NOT EUROPEANS … they don't want to be 'saved' by infidels. They love their own culture and continue to show it even after the Iraq War. [Iraq may break up or have a Civil War of their own]
You need to get a head adjustment … Jarhead!
I'm Canadian NOT AMERICAN … and if I was an American … I would be proud to be one … since when polled AMERICANS are heavily on the Israeli side of the Arab/Israeli Conflict … YOU'RE STATISTICALLY ON THE WRONG SIDE!
See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/19/us-public-opinion-is...
See: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/American_attitudes...
Sorry to get under your 'Indian' skin …
The India/Pakistan Dispute has been ongoing since 1948 as well!
Hmm … a similar intractable problem! However … there seems to be NO DAILY NEWSPAPER … TV … BLOG POSTS … about this 'similar' intractable issue!
After all …
Real Estate
Are all part of BOTH ISSUES!
So … I just wanted to point out … the ONLY difference is that JEWS are involved … therefore … IT'S FRONT PAGE EVERY DAY ON THE TV SETS AND NEWSPAPERS OF THE WORLD …
Isn't that amazing?
You said: "… among ordinary Arabs who otherwise share many of the same ideals as we do in America …"
What ideals are those?
Life, liberty and pursuit of happiness?
The Arab/Muslims are NOT LIKE AMERICANS … their culture is different … their worldview is alien … their weltanschauung is foreign … Cultures ARE DIFFERENT! They don't want the same things YOU DO! Some may adapt BUT AS IT STANDS … THEY ARE NOT LIKE US … isn't that clear from the YEARS THEY'VE BEEN ON REALITY TV … IRAN … IRAQ … AFGHANISTAN … THE ARAB AWAKENING … LIBYA … SYRIA … EGYPT … HEZBOLLAH … HAMAS …
ARE THEY LIKE YOU? Who are YOU kidding? BTW … that was a rhetorical question! LOL
India and Pakistan were both in the news just the other day. What you're trying to say really is that nobody should ever bring up Israel's crimes in Palestine, and if they do, then they are racists. Guess what - you and Israel are not above the law you hypocrite. And you live in Canada of all places. You refuse to live in Israel yourself. Too scared your Palestinian neighbor who you're kicking out might come and beat you like the donkey you are.
I spent a long time in Iraq when I served my country. Met plenty of both Christian and Muslim Arabs. They all wanted the same thing - a chance to a healthy, productive life, education for their children, etc. You're just a bigot, a racist coward who believes him and Israel are better than all the "evil" brown people. Btw - You point at their Koran as if the Jewish fiction is any better. LOL. Not just a racist but a completely brain dead one.
Over the long term, unless Israel comes to some understanding with its neighbors, it may end up one of two ways. It may become a militarized zone / isolated fortress amidst a sea of hostility - think the 11th century crusader kingdom. Alternatively it could become sort of a heavily fortified Disney World. Lots of nice, clean religious sites, great high tech industry, a few token Muslims, but entirely dependent upon the good will and military protection of the US. That of course assumes the US is willing sacrifice large amounts of blood and treasure, indefinitely. Some how neither of these options sound like what David Ben-Gurion and the other founders of modern Israel had in mind.
"Somehow neither of these options sound like what David Ben-Gurion and the other founders of modern Israel had in mind."
Their plan was to expel all the Palestinians to the neighbouring countries. They might yet do it, it might only take one more war.
Some good points,perhaps even very good points, but conspicuously absent is any reason why Israel matters. A central theme in so many of these kind of postings is the Israel's security is everyone else's responsibility. Why? We don't whine about France's security or Germany's security, or Canada's or Lithuania's. If Israel is to boast about its vibrant economy then take it off US food stamps. Israel certainly has the strongest military in the Middle East as evidenced when it fights "wars" against virtually unarmed opponents. Why do we continually concern ourselves with Israel? What does Israel matter? It doesn't and this is becoming more and more true even for Jews.
Food stamps? You must be talking about Arizona or Nevada!
The USA gives Military Aid to Israel to the tune of $2 BILLION a year … AND PLENTY OF DIPLOMATIC SUPPORT AT THE UNITED NATIONS … for which the Jewish People are VERY thankful …
Then cut off the military aid.
Its not just $2 billion. If you consider the money thats funneled through the private church groups, its more to the tune of about $100 billion.
Israel is the single largest recipient of my tax dollar. We need to cut them off. If you are really gods chosen people as the right wing christian nuts believe, then surely you can fight your own battles.
Well, no, not Arizona or Nevada, at least not only but actually Israel. The annual US Taxpayer support for Israel is closer to $3b per year. How could any Israeli be proud of being an Israeli when her country has never been able to stand on its own two feet? Additionally your comment "the Jewish People" smacks, interestingly enough, of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism is the stereotyping of all Jews as this or that, like all Jews have big noses, or all Jews are rich bankers, or Jews control the media. So to suggest that "the Jewish People" do or think this or that is pretty anti-Semitic. Point in fact, not all Jews are thankful for the diplomatic support nor the US financial assistance. In fact, many Jews are against this, like those working for Jewish Voice for Peace and the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation, and The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions (based in Jerusalem). These and many other Jews are NOT THANKFUL for all this waste in money and diplomacy and are actively working it. But I guess to return to my point, who cares about Israel? Why should we?
You don't have to care! Join those that are part of the 'campaign' you've spoken about! That's YOUR RIGHT as a citizen.
Let me ask you about the other $$$$ sent to other countries … do you have a problem with those monies as well?
As far as the 'Jewish People' goes … I don't know where YOU'RE coming from? To be a Jew is NOT ONLY A RELIGION … JEWS ARE A PEOPLE! Jews belong to the JEWISH PEOPLE! It's not monolithic … there's plenty of room under the umbrella … NOT ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE have the same views on EVERYTHING … so
Actually, if you consider the cash sent through Christian groups in the U.S., the amount skyrockets to more like $100 billion. Furthermore, Israel's GDP is only as high because of the direct investment by American companies. Careful there - I know Jews think they've been chosen by some sky daddy - but don't bite that feeds you, for your own sake.
And I believe Neunuebel point was that Israel's policies are wrong and criminal towards the Palestinians, and that there are many Jewish people here in the U.S. and even within Israel that agree. So basically, he's saying we can see through your propaganda. People such as yourself that go around online message boards being internet warriors, spreading lies and deceit, and always making Israel look like some poor country that's being attacked by evil brown people.
Also, stop using caps. Grow up. It only highlights how arrogant and ignorant you are.
You said: "if you consider the cash sent through Christian groups in the U.S., the amount skyrockets to more like $100 billion …"
Really? YOUR SOURCE?
Oh … so you don't like CAPITALS? SHOCKING!
As for propaganda … answer the question big mouth! $100 BILLION from where?
You said: "Israel's GDP is only as high because of the direct investment by American companies"
What's that supposed to mean? We live in a GLOBAL ECONOMY … everyone can invest in Israeli companies but they expect to gain a profit in doing so. There must be some reason they're investing in Israel and NOT Iraq or Egypt or Algeria or … get the drift?
There are MORE Israeli companies listed on the NASDAQ exchange than ALL OF EUROPE! That is, 7 MILLION people of Israel have MORE Hi-Tech Companies listed on NASDAQ than ALL OF EUROPEAN COUNTRIES COMBINED! Go figure. You're good in math aren't you?
Here's a source - coming from a professor at MIT
Sure, if someone would pump this much cash into an entity the size of Israel, it makes sense that people have time to invest in research. That's great they have so many tech companies. Its American cash flow, so again, you should be thanking my country, not your fictitious "GOD".
"The Israeli army's chief of staff states that in the past three years, "US taxpayers have contributed more to the Israeli defense budget than Israeli taxpayers," according to a report in the Jerusalem Post, a prominent Israeli newspaper."
Chomsky? Is that all you got?
Israel is thankful to the USA … very thankful
As for me … I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD … but I'm a Jew and I AM PROUD member of the Jewish People … what's religion got to do with it?
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perfect for my area and also allows more room in my cabinets for storage by having a place for my wine glasses and wine bottles. Goes beautifully with my dark wicker kitchen set.
This charming bakers rack features a metal wine storage unit that will hold up to 12 bottles of your favorite vino. The rack has a textured gun metal finish and its two rattan basket drawers provide ample storage for hiding clutter.
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This baker's rack with wine storage has 12 bottle racks and a set of glass holders to display your wine collection in style. The baskets function as removable drawers, making this bistro-style wine rack both functional and stylish. The durable metal construction is completed with a textured gunmetal finish and decorative scrollwork, adding an attractive touch to your home decor.- Bistro wine rack will improve storage, display and organization
- Kitchen and dining room furniture features two lower hand-stained rattan baskets
- Twelve bottle racks and a set of glass holders make this an ideal addition for any beginning wine connoisseur
- Decorative scrollwork laces the top for a classic touch
- Baskets function as removable drawers
- Two open shelves and a top rack are extremely versatile
- Textured gun metal grey finish
- Holds up to 12 bottles of wine
- Durable metal construction
- Measures 36.5 inches wide x 11 inches long x 36 inches high
- Baskets measure 11.5 inches wide x 9.5 inches long x 8 inches high
- Open shelves measure 13 inches wide x 11 inches long x 14 inches high
- Top shelf measures 35 inches wide x 10 inches deep
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Material | Metal Rattan |
Shelf Type | Storage |
Assembly | Assembly Required |
Number of Shelf | 2 |
Dimensions | 36 in. H x 36.5 in. W x 11 in. D |
Materials | Metal, Rattan |
Model Number | OS3089 |
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just what I wanted perfect for my area and also allows more room in my cabinets for storage by having a place for my wine glasses and wine bottles. Goes beautifully with my dark wicker kitchen set.
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easy to assemble easy to assemble, everything fits as it should
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Easy to assemble This is probably smaller than you realize (thanks to someone else's review for pointing that out) but that works for me. Despite all the parts, it was very easy to assemble (just make sure to figure out which way each piece faces). I thought it looked a little cheap and it's hard to place stuff on the racks so that they don't tip - but I bought a 3/4" piece of seamed glass for the top and that notched it right up. Looks great. Baskets are a little darker brown that than the picture.
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Carol Love it....perfect size and has all the features for which I had hoped.
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Nice sturdy rack I love this wine rack storage piece it is sturdy and very well made. I love the baskets for hidden storage.
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Very Good Stuff! I came home from a very long parent/teacher conference day and wasn't ready for bed ... so I attacked the assembling of this wine rack. The other reviews were helpful in that THE ITEM ISN'T A HUGE PIECE ... but its perfect for my smaller kitchen. It LOOKS good - not cheap at all - and legitimately IS durable and will last a while. It was VERY easy to assemble and I am a 26 year old female :) Allen wrenches aren't my favorite thing but it worked fine - all the bolts fit into the pieces well, things lined up fine - I didn't have any issue with it! The only thing I'll say in caution is this ----- when doing the wine glass holder pieces, be careful to check the width of you wine glass bases, in that they'll fit ... my larger Red glasses only fit 1 of the 3 slots which was because I bolted the pieces too closely together - so just be aware of the spacing with that part. Otherwise it really is a great piece for your kitchen!
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Beautiful and Functional Piece! Love this bakers rack with w/wine storage, looks very expensive and fits nicely in my small kitchen. Another great purchase from Overstock!
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Smaller than I thought This is a beautiful bakers rack and it wasn't very difficult to put together. The instructions say you will need a screwdriver, but it turns out that it's only used for assembling the baskets. Everything else is done with the allen wrench that's included. As soon as I got the pieces out of the box, it was clear that this was much smaller than I thought it was by looking at the picture, so be sure to check out the measurements to make sure that it will meet your need. I'd intended for this piece to sit against the center of the wall behind our dining room table, but because of how small it is, it would look really silly there. And really that's saying something, because our dining area is very tiny. I've moved it into the corner and it looks a lot better there, (not so dwarfed by the rest of the room). I would definitely recommend this to people, just make sure that you are looking for a short, little rack.
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yay So i just put together all the pieces and yes its small but gosh does it look good in my dinning room, i love it....the only problem i had was in the baskets the bolts did not go all the way in but it still worked
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The specifications say the height of this item is 36 inches. Is this the height to the top shelf or to the highest point of the rack itself?
Hello sarahn8r, the dimensions listed are the overall dimensions from top to floor. Thanks for shopping with us!
What is the widest base wine glass that will fit and what us the dimension of the open shelf. I want to put other alcohol bottles there and need to be sure they will fit. Thanks
Hello Harbesl, I hope your day is going well. The glass holder is 3.5 inches wide. The open shelves measure 13 inches wide x 11 inches long x 14 inches high. Thank you for shopping with us and have a great New Year!
Color is described as gun metal grey but pictures online come across as a bronze color. Can you give me a better idea of what color actually is? I am looking for something like this in a bronze color.
Hello Norma, the color is more of a gun metal grey color, we try to represent the colors of our products accurately. Unfortunately, due to the difference in monitor colors we cannot guarantee that the color will match exactly what you see on your screen. Have a great day!
Gun metal grey is accurate, I think it's perfect, not quite black but, dark.
Does it hold 1.5 liter bottles?
Hello Kareng, this is made to hold standard wine bottle which are 1.5 liters, yes it will hold 1.5 liter bottles. Thank you for shopping with us!
How much weight can this rack hold ? Thanks
Thank you for contacting us poca69. This can hold 30 pounds. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
I wouldn't put a potted plant on it or a valuable piece of china or crystal.
What is the distance between the ground and the bottom of the bottom shelf? Thank you!
Thank you for contacting us jvos1984. 4 inches below the bottom shelf and there is 9 inches from the top to the first shelf. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
What size of the box that the baker's rack comes in?
The box dimensions are 9 inches high by 14 inches wide by 40 inches long.
How many glasses does it hold. it says a set. Is that 4?
This item will hold four glasses.
are the wine bottle holders seperate or do they have to be put on
The entire item will have to be assembled. The bottle holders are two racks that have to be attached to the frame.
how much does this weigh?
The rack weighs approximately 30 pounds.
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