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Byron Will
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Nikon 16-35mm f/4 long exposure problem
November 21, 2012, 10:56:33 PM »
Nikon 16-35mm owners might be interested in this post, especially if you shoot at night.
After purchasing and shooting this lens in more "normal" shooting situations (outdoor photography) for about a month, I was shooting on the Olympic Peninsula last week, and wanted to explore this lens qualities for night photography. Shooting at 25-30 sec. ISO2500, I was very surprised to find red bands, at 90 degrees to one another, in my photos, which moved in the frame with different focal lengths. At first I thought it was light leaks or the camera (D800e). After an evening of testing instead of shooting, I determined that the streaks were being created inside the lens (possibly by the VR unit). Final tests were done indoors in a dark closet, with the camera covered for good measure. Same settings. Same results. 16mm seems to yield the worst artifacts.
I returned the lens Monday, and tested 4 more, finally finding one that did not exhibit this problem (glad they had enough to test!). My lens and three of four had varying degrees and intensities of pure red streaks or bands in the exposure. Luckily, I found one that was free of this anomaly, and tested fine here at home. One person at the store said they saw something like this in their images at the coast, but chalked it up to something else. Hence the purpose of this post.
I also found a number of threads on DP Review concerning this issue, but no one apparently found a solution. My solution was exchanging. I don't know Nikon's take on this, but is certainly a strange, but real problem. 4 out of 5 lenses did not pass, which was surprising. Of the five, my original one was the worst one, and one of them was not readily apparent, so this is something one could easily miss. Maybe it's only a problem with recent models. The bad one I had was 252141.
If anyone is interested, I can post examples. It's easy to test your own lens. You just need a totally dark environment and the setting above. If you never shoot like this, it's probably not a concern.
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November 22, 2012, 04:30:34 AM »
I determined that the streaks were being created inside the lens (possibly by the VR unit).
I would be interested in how you came to that conclusion? Using VR on a tripod isn't recommended and if it was off then how did it affect quality? I have the lens but don't use it for low light shooting.
My lens and three of four had varying degrees and intensities of pure red streaks or bands in the exposure
Could this be light pollution that occurs over or near cities?
Last Edit: November 22, 2012, 04:33:29 AM by stamper
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November 22, 2012, 11:32:18 AM »
since you shot in a dark light tight closet... could it be an internal reflection from an red source in the camera body - one of the screens ? Did you try this experiment with your other lenses ?
otherwise it sounds like possible thermal source in the lens or body. Why the cross and not a diffuse image i don't know. If it was a sensor thermal issue (from the long exposure) i don't think it would have changed location with change in focal length.
Was the autofocus turned off ?
Was the VR turned off ?
Byron Will
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November 22, 2012, 11:58:56 AM »
I tested other lenses and there were no sign of these problems at the same focal lengths. Got the same result with the 16-35 on my D300.
I'm guessing about the VR, but one person on DP Review send his in to Nikon, they replaced the VR unit, to no avail. It didn't matter if the VR was turned off or on. The VR was not "working" in off position, but may be "ready to go". The light seems to be pure red, so I wondered if there was a small laser in the VR unit, but this is conjecture. Auto focus on or off made no difference. Aperture made no difference. Same result.
Another reason I suspected the VR was that I tried two exposures in the closet handheld with the VR on and moved the camera while the exposure was being made, and it changed the shape of the bands. It was completely dark, but just for added insurance it was at 30 sec. f/22 with the lens cap on.
Thom Hogan suggested I tape the power contacts for the lens. Not ready to do that yet! Have to be sure it's a keeper.
It's easy to test. It's a very strange problem. Glad I have a good one now.
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November 22, 2012, 04:17:14 PM »
Could it be a similar issue that the 24-70 had? This lens turned out to have a light leak around the focussing window on the barrel. A leak small enough to only show up under more extreme long exposures. taping the transparant window to test would be my first step in this case.
Byron Will
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November 23, 2012, 02:11:59 AM »
Yes, I think the 18-200mm had this problem also. No chance of light leaking in the closet at the lake. Totally black outside the closet at night, let alone inside it. Then a sweater thrown over the camera during exposure for good measure. I was cautious because the D800e is very sensitive to light (which is great). The resulting streaks were nearly identical at the same focal length, whether shot in the closet or on a tripod in the dark outside.
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November 23, 2012, 04:22:22 AM »
Just out of curiosity, did you close the eye piece?
A few images online
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November 23, 2012, 05:03:59 AM »
1. Would be useful to post a RAW file. I know some of us can immediately see whether it is "captured" data, or "interference" data, and the RAW data might give further evidence what is being recorded.
2. A further thought is that your 1 "good" unit may actually turn out to be a "faulty" unit if it does not exhibit the "problem", e.g. the stabilizer not working properly or something.
3. Could it possibly be light leakage from the headsup display in the viewfinder? Like focus points or something similar?
Oscar Rysdyk
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Re: Nikon 16-35mm f/4 long exposure problem
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November 23, 2012, 10:05:22 AM »
I tested my D800E and 16-35 in a dark closet and don't see the streaks you are experiencing.
Dave Jolley
Byron Will
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November 23, 2012, 12:44:31 PM »
Thank you all for responding.
Yes, I did close the eyepiece when testing outdoors and indoors in the closet, as the bands look like light leakage. I also put the rain protector on the camera and draped a sweater over everything outside. Same results led me inside. It was too bad, as it was quite beautiful. I did take some photos with another lens, but was upset about the 16-35, and forgot to check careful focusing for the stars. No streaks though...
I tested the VR on my new lens, and it "does it's thing". I very rarely use VR.
For starters, attached are a few exposures, one outside, one closet shot inside and one later at home as a guide for testing at the store. I also have the RAW files for these and for my tests on the other lenses. As I said, it's a strange one. EXIF data is there.
The main purpose of the post was for others to test their lenses, as this is a subtle problem, and only seen really only when the exposures are long and the ISO is high, so thanks for testing, and I'm glad your lens is fine. I don't ever write in forums, but I do read them, so please excuse my lack of knowledge of navigation/posting in the forum.
Here's one of the posts on DP Review:
Byron Will
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November 23, 2012, 12:48:21 PM »
Only one attached, so I'll give it another try.
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November 23, 2012, 07:50:38 PM »
Over at DP Review, check out the postings of Marianne Oelund, an engineer living in the Pacific NW USA. She has looked into the VR unit as the source of light pollution in long-exposure situations, and believes that it is the cause. She posted her findings in a recent thread on just this lens. She's a detail oriented person, and the information we get from her is usually very reliable.
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Byron Will
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November 23, 2012, 08:39:05 PM »
Thanks very much. Her suggestion of using a film camera with the back (and shutter) open and taking a photo of the lens barrel from the back is excellent. There are two sensors, one for vertical motion, and the other for horizontal motion. Maybe this is why I would see two bands in the image. Glad I don't see them now.
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November 24, 2012, 09:01:57 AM »
Thom Hogan mentions this issue in his Nov 23 blog. I retested mine with VR On & Off at iso 100 and 3200 and still don't see any streaks.
Dave Jolley
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November 25, 2012, 03:49:55 PM »
I had written Thom Hogan a week ago Friday and sent a few pictures after returning home. He made a few suggestions, but I'm glad that he asked his readers to test their lenses. This way it gives a far larger sample and a better indication of the scope of the problem (very limited), rather than my one experience with my lens and at the camera store with 5 lenses. I have to say though, that initially, it was a bit disconcerting. My initial lens exhibited quite strong banding, but the lenses I tested varied immensely. One was barely detectable, but it was there. Strange problem.
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November 25, 2012, 05:45:41 PM »
Quote from: Byron Will on November 23, 2012, 08:39:05 PM
Thanks very much. Her suggestion of using a film camera with the back (and shutter) open and taking a photo of the lens barrel from the back is excellent. There are two sensors, one for vertical motion, and the other for horizontal motion. Maybe this is why I would see two bands in the image. Glad I don't see them now.
She seemed to suggest that having AF off was also necessary in addition to having VR off. In her analysis, the VR unit is powered up whenever the AF is.
I see you got to Thom already. It looks like he has some data and will be posting findings soon.
Luke Kaven
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November 26, 2012, 02:50:55 PM »
I have the same issue you are speaking of Byron.
This is from a few nights ago. It Happens regardless if on D800 or D700. This is f4 @ 30 seconds at ISO 6400.
The lower right corner is also very red!
Since reading this thread i tried shooting the 16-35 with both the VR and AF off and i still get the red streak.
Byron Will
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November 26, 2012, 07:59:40 PM »
Scott, sorry to hear your lens probably has a problem. it didn't matter what the settings were, the red bands were there for me regardless of VR on or off, lens focus switch on or off, etc. with both of my cameras. If it's too late to exchange the lens, you have a guarantee with Nikon, and if long exposures are important for your shooting style, you might have to send it in. I would suggest that you insist that after they repair it (you can send prints along) that they test it before they send it back to you. It's easy to test it.
BTW, your attachment did not show up here, and mine also disappeared...
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November 27, 2012, 07:20:00 PM »
I just tested the 16-35 f4 VR and 24-85 f3.5-4.5 (the old one without VR) on my D700. The former produced a clean (black) image whereas the latter exhibited a diffuse red band, similar to that posted by Byron.
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February 11, 2013, 03:25:25 PM »
Old thread, sorry, but I had a mysterious red streak problem in a Nikon D800, with 70-200 f/2.8 (VR-I, which was not on), which I cannot explain or reproduce. These are star pictures, Andromeda here, at about ISO 3200, f/2.8, 20 seconds, at 190 or 200mm.
The red streak was Not in Any 14-24mm image, but in Every 70-200 image, sorted here before I gave up on trying to work around it:
Yes, I know 20 seconds is better at 14mm, and clearly way too long for 200mm, unless guided (but I did not take that). This was not the best night (cool, falling from 60F to near 40F before I left, and windy and dry, and a large moon rising in another hour or two). I was only intending a quick trial run of D800 camera and high ISO, using only a tripod.
The red streak was very evident of course (not in dark viewfinder, but in rear LCD result), and was a constant in that one lens, and at the time, I carefully inspected front and rear lens elements looking for something red on it, but it seemed very clean and clear.
Any suggestions about a cause would be appreciated, however, I may be unwilling to consider any about external light, because (arguing with myself), because it was deep rural dark - at an astronomy club dark site 100 miles from the big city, and the point of being there was simply that no light is allowed there. Also the site happened to be empty, I was alone. It was rather dark, and the lens was also aimed up, where there isn't anything. And even if there had been, something has to change when the lens direction is changed east or west, and it didn't. Surely it had to be internal somehow? The viewfinder was not closed, but there simply was no possibility of any external light, honest. I went from the 70-200 back to 14-24, then back again, and back again, and one lens always did it, the other never did.
I could Not recreate the problem at home next night with similar sky exposure, however the city sky is at least four stops brighter, white at this exposure.
I also tried in a pitch black closet (similar settings, 20 seconds, high ISO, infinity focus at 200mm, etc), and got a pitch black image.
Yes, I did use a dim red flashlight a few times, but carefully and sparingly, and not during any exposure. Logic would imagine it must be related, that somehow it affected something in the lens? Really does not seem possible, but the same in every image? (it was never on during any exposure, and rarely otherwise). So some kind of phosphorescent memory? I cannot recreate any issue from it either. At home, I did try shining it directly into the open viewfinder from only an inch or two, for the full 30 second exposure in the dark, and it did make the frame somewhat pink then, not in the same way, and of course nothing remotely like that happened before. That might affect metering, but it takes a lot to get into the frame, and there was not a lot of anything at this dark site.
It simply could not happen, yet it did. The only plausible cause would seem to be some kind of internal red light, but that does not seem rational, and does not explain why it stopped at home.
Anyway, it seems interesting, but hopeless in understanding...
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Aug 16, 2013People need to realize this is based on a true story about one of the most bizarre cases ever! They made it weird and they way it was supposed to be. This isn't a typical movie.
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Nov 15, 2013The story of stupid bodybuilders trying to get easy money and involved in a criminal story. The cast is great, the dumbness of characters seemed very convincing and fun. The movie seemed a bit long for me. Overall, worth watching if you like black comedies and yeag, this is based on a true story.
May 20, 2013
Apr 29, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view.
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Aug 13, 2013Michael Bay directs this film in typical Michael Bay fashion with that said it is some what enjoyable. I thought the performances were strong and if Bay had shaved about thirty minutes off it may have been better. Overall this is worth at least one watch. B-
Aug 16, 2013First off I just want to say I loved this film, fantastic story with twists, suspense, comedy and thrills. Mix in some brilliant acting, especially from The Rock and you've got yourself a fantastic film. It does help if you lift weights because you find it more relateable, but there's still much fun to be had if you don't. Well worth watching.
May 4, 2014Surprisingly really enjoyed this and laughed along with the characters all the way. Great cast! It's Michael Bay, so my expectations were low to average, but I thought this was terrific and criminally fun. Mark Wahlberg and the Rock have always been those actors that you just like the minute they appear on screen!
May 4, 2013
Aug 15, 2013Another example why you shouldn't listen to "critics" who lover scores because it's not silent, black and white, heart braking war story that either makes you sleepy or feel horrible inside. It's fast-paste dark comedy that would make you laugh at things you shouldn't. Just watch it and decide for yourself.
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Oct 18, 2013A sad, disturbing movie with some really fun actors doing great satire. Like Fargo or Burn After Reading but much better. More than just a comedy saying "People are stupid", the finger here is pointed squarely at masculinity and the "American Dream".
Jun 14, 2013Was ready for it to be over halfway through. The characters get annoying quickly and it feels like the movie is stuck in the mud early on. The stab at humor is ridiculously lacking. Michael Bay being Michael Bay, basically.
Aug 30, 2013
Aug 4, 2013The story telling was unique, it was a dark comedy that was marketed as Hangover type experience which is why you see people not liking the film, that and Christian people who can't take a joke. I would say it should have been marketed as more of a crime movie which is what it ends up being. Overall good movie with dishonest marketing.
Aug 19, 2013This review contains spoilers, click expand to view.
Sep 15, 2013I'm having trouble on what I think of this film.I like the story and idea,but the fact that these people actually did this,you can't really like the characters even though the movie wants you to.
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Sep 4, 2013This was a decent movie. I thought that it was a lot better than the reviews give it credit for. There was a lot of over-the-top violence, and I thought that it was disturbing that they presented this true murder in a comedic tone, and it would have been better if it was a drama, not a comedy. This was good, but way over-the-top.
May 18, 2014
Dec 3, 2013Simply a crazy movie. About a lot more than just moving iron up and down.It's about motivation, perseverance, and a will to rise above yourself.
The music they had in the movie was hilarious, and they had they same theme playing for a long time. It was very different and moving, Also it has comedy, babes, and action, what more could a guy want. -
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Jul 26, 2014This film is too over the top and very crazy, it's not as explosive as Michael Bay's action flicks but it's just another crime film that tries to get out of the action range but Ed Harris puts on a nice performance.
Mar 15, 2014
Oct 4, 2014The critics simply did not like this movie obviously because the director is Michael Bay, just like the I Hate Metacritic video by I Hate Everything. This, and The Hobbit, were good movies in which the critics gave them mixed scores. Watch this, and if you like it, mention it in your own review of the film.
Jun 21, 2014A True story that was not all that true, makes for a pretty unentertaining movie. It just bored me throughout most of this film. Sub par acting and action scenes that just didn't stick with me made for a underwhelming movie.
Oct 5, 2014Michael Bay makes good movies that's right. Me one I liked this movie. True, it's very crazy, but it makes one really nice. American Dream ... Great action movie.
Jan 9, 2015Unbearably bad and a sad payday for actors like Ed Harris, even Johnson. This lousy movie proves beyond any doubt that Michael Bay is still a 14-year-old who couldn't make a film for adults if his life depended on it.
You know they really screwed up when the actual true crime story is 10 times better as told on an episode of Dateline NBC than here with 1000 times more money behind it. -
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The movie needed some more detachment – and brevity – but Wahlberg shows once again he has the comedy chops.
The ever-present air of madcap, goofball insanity carries it through. A seriously guilty pleasure.
Aug 26, 2013Michael Bay goes back to a Bad Boys budget and a big boys' rating, for a true-life crime story that's inconsistent and frenetic, but also funny and wilfully outrageous.


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Oakland sophomore cruising into matchup with Hendriks
What started out so poorly for Jarrod Parker has since turned into his second consecutive impressive Major League season.
An April that could not have been much worse -- ending with a 7.36 ERA and 16 walks to 18 strikeouts in 29 1/3 innings -- was forgotten by the end of May.
And after he went undefeated in six June starts, holding opposing teams to a 2.08 ERA, Parker was well on his way.
The A's, having won six of eight in the season's final month, will hope to ride Parker's impressive season a little bit longer as the 24-year-old sophomore makes his 29th start of the year Tuesday when Oakland opens a three-game series in Minnesota.
"I saw that last year," Brandon Moss said of Parker's success. "Down the stretch, there was nobody that pitched better than him. Start-in, start-out, you knew what you were going to get. He was going to throw strikes, he wasn't going to walk people, he was going to put the ball in play, and I think that's what was more surprising early in the year, those struggles he was having. Because that's not him. Once he got comfortable, he's been the same guy. That's who he is. He is an ace."
After ending their first divisional season against the Astros with a 15-4 mark, the A's have six games left against the Twins and 12 games left against American League West foes.
Take care of the Twins starting Tuesday, and the first-place A's could be well on their way to another division title.
Part of the A's success of late has come via the bullpen, which has allowed just seven runs in its past 10 games after allowing 28 runs over its previous 10.
Opening Day starter Brett Anderson appears to be getting more comfortable throwing extended outings out of relief, and Dan Otero has stepped up in his first season with the club.
The Twins ended their Target Field losing streak at 10 games Monday against the Angels but have still dropped 12 of their last 14 home games.
On the mound for Minnesota is Liam Hendriks, the 24-year-old righty who is trying to prove himself as a viable option out of the bullpen at the Major League level. Hendricks has posted impressive numbers at the Triple-A level but has yet to find consistent success with the Twins, albeit in a limited role.
The latest example of that came in his most recent start, against the Astros, when he gave up five runs (three earned) in 4 1/3 innings.
"It was just embarrassing," Hendriks said. "I got behind guys. I left balls up. Once I was ahead, I was fine. I just wasn't ahead very often, and they made me pay for it. I got lackadaisical and just wasn't myself. I need to get back to getting ahead early and keeping the ball down."
A's: Donaldson rests sore quad
Josh Donaldson was given Sunday off to rest his right quad after straining it in Saturday's game against the Astros. With Monday's off-day, Donaldson essentially had a two-day rest period to get into form for the series in Minneapolis.
The A's don't seem too concerned about their power-hitting third baseman, who has missed just three of the team's 141 games this season.
"He's a true grinder," manager Bob Melvin said.
Twins: Diamond to start Thursday
Left-hander Scott Diamond will return to the Twins rotation Thursday as Minnesota goes with a six-man rotation for the remainder of the season, manager Ron Gardenhire said.
"He did fine," Gardenhire said. "I watched some games. His location was better, and his breaking ball was a little sharper. But what he did down there, it has to translate up here, or else it doesn't mean anything. He can't get behind the count and not finish his pitches off."
Worth noting
• Alex Presley is hitting .343 (12-for-35) with two doubles, a home run and five RBIs since the Twins acquired him from the Pirates in exchange for Justin Morneau on Aug. 31.
• Otero is expected to be with his wife for the birth of their child Tuesday and will be unavailable for the A's. He is expected to return Wednesday.
• The Twins are 18-8 against the AL West this season.
Jason Mastrodonato is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @jmastrodonato. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.


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Balsamic Roasted Tomato Caprese Salad
Over the past few weeks I have been enjoying a lot of the locally grown field tomatoes. Late summer is the best time to enjoy the perfectly ripe field tomatoes as they are nice and juicy and full of flavour. The hot house tomatoes that you can get year round are nice enough but they simply do not compare to the field tomatoes at this time of year and I have been taking advantage of them. As tasty as the field ripened tomatoes are, I often like to roast them to concentrate their flavour even more. Roasted tomatoes make for some really tasty pasta sauces but this time I was looking for something a little different and I combined them with another of my favourites, the caprese salad. I kept the balsamic roasted tomato caprese salad nice and simple and it did not disappoint! The warm roasted tomatoes were full of flavour and they started to melt the fresh mozzarella making it seem like it was melting in your mouth!
Balsamic Roasted Tomato Caprese Salad
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2 ripe field tomatoes (cut in half)
1 clove garlic (chopped)
salt and pepper to taste
1 tablespoon olive oil
2 teaspoons balsamic vinegar
1 ball fresh mozzarella (sliced)
1 handful basil leaves
1. Place the tomatoes on a baking sheet with the cut side facing up.
2. Sprinkle with the garlic, salt and pepper and drizzle with oil and vinegar.
3. Roast the tomatoes in a preheated 350F oven for an hour.
4. Let the tomatoes cool, assemble the salad and enjoy.
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"Laughed so hard, I nearly coughed up a lung!!"
I would have Gilbert Gottfried narrate the entire thing. That would really take this craptacular audiobook to the next level - definitely. Seriously folks...I'm not even kidding - watch the clip of him reading selections of this on You Tube. Classic. Absolute claaaaassssssiiiiiicccc.
Only to people that can laugh at truly bad work that was meant to be taken seriously. In fact, get them all in a room together with copious amounts of alcohol and blast this audiobook. Make it a drinking game - take a shot every time Anastasia refers to her "inner goddess" or sputters "oh, my!" Take another shot every time creepy Grey "levels his intense (serial killer-like) gaze upon Anastasia". On second thought, don't - everyone will wind up dead from alcohol poisoning.
Let's see, was it Ms. Battoe's mind-numbingly dull and droning Valley Girl-esque delivery? Check. Could it be her even worse leaden vocal rendition of the rich-yet-menacingly-sexy sociopath that is Mr. Grey? Check that too. HIGH-LAR-I-OUS. Best yet, I love the fact that it's told in first person through Anastasia's character. In no time you'll be screaming to be let out of her brain. Help! Hellllppp! Someone get me out of here!!
Only to a very small percentage of the population that enjoys books and films meant to be taken seriously but can be enjoyed for all the wrong reasons. Just when you think Anastasia couldn't possibly be more knuckle-draggingly stupid...she manages to reach a new low. Every single time. Guaranteed! In fact, Anastasia Steel is such a cretin that I often wonder how this character could function in daily society. Oh yeah. She can't. It would all make more sense if her character suffered some kind of brain injury that would preclude her being this naive or possessing such a painful lack of cognitive skills with zero tolerance for self awareness.
Folks, this is just a symptom of a much, much bigger problem with the state of extremely successful books and films. Why do we support work that depicts all female leads in today's big hits (I'm looking at YOU, Hunger Games Automaton Catniss and Twilight Boneheaded Bella!) as completely blank maidens in distress that have absolutely no sense of self awareness or willingness to own their own sexuality, much less be completely unable to understand if and why a man finds them attractive, preferring to remain asexual robots until they're felt up or kissed unexpectedly?? Such is the sad state of female leads in books and films. If I didn't laugh, I'd have to give up books and films altogether. If this is considered the only socially acceptable form of porn for mommies, they should have higher standards. We should too.
"Like an audio episode of "The Twilight Zone""
Listen to "They Used To Exist" for a quick shot of suspense. I really enjoyed how atmospheric the production was - Dan Absalonson added just the right combinations of tone and special effects to make the listener feel like they're experiencing an episode of "The Twilight Zone".
"Compelling and Unique Holiday Tale"
I just loved "The Christmas Cave".
Author David R. Bashears has written a novella that has a broad appeal not only for pre/tween/teens, but adults as well. The audio production, narrated by Dan Absalonson, sets the stage for an absorbing listening experience. His vocal performance is the perfect touch to this unique tale about siblings Jack and Amanda, as they are drawn into an daunting adventure fifty years in the making.
I appreciated genuinely not knowing where the plot would lead to next, and enjoyed the warm and compelling narration style Narrator Dan Absalonson provided throughout the production.
I highly recommend this audiobook to people searching for a unique tale in celebration of the power of family, friendships and the holiday spirit.
"Grabs you and won't let go!!"
What a dark and absorbing production - I loved it!! Roland Yeoman's novel poses a frightening scenario - the concept of intelligent red blood cells turning against mankind. As Narrator, Hubert Williams' powerful character voice adds the perfect chilling mood to this thriller. Truly gave me chills!!
"They've Done It Again!"
Another great collaboration between author Drac Von Stoller and narrator Dan Absalonson! All the elements - a good old-fashioned scary story, the skillful and nuanced vocal of the narration combined with the well-timed sound effects - combine for an audio thrill-ride!
"Top Notch Narration/Production!!"
"Grave Robbers" reminded me of old time radio theater for the modern age - sharp and absorbing from beginning to end. I love the seamless weaving of Drac Von Stoller's gritty, haunting prose coupled with Dan Absalonson's spot-on narration. The dark/moody music and accompanying sound effects add the perfect chilling touch to this top-notch production. This is a must have for all horror/suspense fans!
"Really enjoyed the style...just one big question"
Engaging read, but I couldn't understand why the male lead was so contemptuous of the female protagonist. I could definitely understand from her point of view the frustration of dealing with a jerk of a boss, but the level of contempt Bennett seemed to have for her was alienating and unjustified.
"Erotica Read By Human Robot"
This was unintentionally funny, because the narrator was simply out of her depth in reading an explicit memoir like this. Picture that recorded voice that welcomes you to the mall when you're given your ticket. Picture the recorded voice in the airport that tells you which zones are for loading and unloading. Now imagine that voice reading a dirty memoir. I don't know about you, but I laughed my ass off for the first ten minutes until i realized two things: the entire memoir will sound like this, and the sinking knowledge that I had wasted yet another precious credit...DAMN!!
"Caillat Cursed With Perfect Memory"
If you're interested in learning about recording and tech issues from 70s era sound and recording equipment, then this is for you. If not (like me) you'll wish that you skipped this altogether. Yes, Caillat served as co-producer and trusted tech employee on the Rumours album as well as helping out on tech issues during the Rumours tour, but folks...this bears repeating: other than the aforementioned, you won't be learning anything new about Fleetwood Mac that you haven't already seen covered on an episode of VH1's "Behind the Music." I'm not kidding. This was a borefest of the highest degree. And, oh yes- did you know he's the father of singer Colby Caillat? That's good, because if you don't, you'll be reminded (in addition to a completely useless detailed description of how he handled a recording issue on his daughter's (Colby Caillat!) album. I wish someone would please kick me in the forehead with a pen for buying this damn thing.
Would you like to know what Caillat's days were like? (I woke up. I showered. Scooter went through the doggie door to go to the bathroom. Scooter came back in from the doggie door after he went to the bathroom, etc.) Holy crap- it's a monotonous nightmare. If this book was solely about his adventures with his dog Scooter, the best little buddy and tension breaker that made him happy during the recording sessions, that's one thing (I adore dogs)...but that's not how this was marketed. ("I ordered a drink. The waiter arrived. He poured the wine into my glass. I raised my glass. I made a toast." With hours upon hours worth of moment by moment description of every single thing he did every single day he worked on the album and subsequent tour, how in the hell did he have time to effectively do anything? He's too busy writing down every single boring everyday tasks he did, thought, etc. Frankly, if the book was about Scooter, the best pal Caillat ever had, it would have been far more interesting on the road with him and Scooter's adorable personality in the recording studio. That dog was interesting. Caillat wasn't. In spades.
Other than two major confrontations that take place during the Rumours recording sessions,I learned nothing. Just a lot of "the band seemed tense/the band knew exactly how much was at stake in making this album"...really? Ya don't say! Honestly, I felt that Caillat's reflections had about as much importance as a pimple on the ass of the universe.
By the way, is it just me, or does the narrator (although giving his best) sound like a voiceover actor for children's products/that happy voice at the end of the latest medicine commercial that happily warns you that one of the side effects is death? They should have had that warning at the beginning of this audiobook.
"Truth is far stranger than fiction!"
I really enjoy the voice of narrator Victor Bevine - he created distinct and very different voices for each one of the characters. I appreciated it.
Too many. The Johnson family history is packed with painfully sick individuals that took extreme joy in punishing/annihilating their family members. The ripple effect still affects the family to this day.
"Wrong Title, Absolutely Mind-blowing Memoir!"
It gave me the opportunity to listen to Dodson's life without any sugar-coating. I have always respected the work she continues to do - breaking old myths about women and men's sexuality. I just had no idea about the hell she went through in the search just to be herself and question the old principles of sexual morality. To me, she comes across very much like a sex-ed astronaut from the future, plopped smack dab onto Earth with the sole mission of changing our attitudes about the double standards that women are confined to - even to this day! I think that the title was misleading because Dodson learned very early that she preferred not to become entangled in exclusive dating. She made a choice to remain steadfastly single, yet build a network of friends that understood and respected her life choice. It fueled her life, research, writing and art powerful because she experienced it all...with no regrets. Please note however that there are three incidents in the book that were triggering, so be forewarned.
What I liked best about this memoir was learning about her life-long struggle to teach herself (and others) not to be afraid of their own bodies, nor should there be any fear in speaking frankly with your partner to work together for greater intimacy. Also, there is nothing wrong with choosing not to marry/have kids, etc. for a life of free personal exploration and solitude.
Yes, I have. I'll be honest - at first, when I heard her voice, I distinctly thought that it was being narrated by one of Marge Simpson's sisters with a gravelly deep voice. Actually, I wound up appreciating it because Rosenblat's voice really does sound like Betty Dodson's voice! It was a very bold choice to have this narrated by an older woman with a powerful, booming voice instead of an annoying breathless ingenue. She captured the cadence and style of Dodson's voice spot-on. Lastly (but most importantly) the audiobook is narrated as if Dodson is right in front of you, sharing her life story with joy, humor and determination.
I had an extreme reaction toward the end that I never, ever expected to do- the relationship that Dodson had with her mother when she became an adult. It was precious and moving (I'm getting chills just remembering that section.) That relationship was such a source of support, laughter and mutual respect that I will never be able to listen to that passage without crying. It was incredibly moving. You'll be moved, too. Please read the emotional trigger alert below for more. This book is very polarizing and not for the faint of heart.
EMOTIONAL TRIGGER ALERT: Please be aware that the book delves briefly into childhood molestation, sibling incest and bestilality. Although Betty has a completely different opinion on how she chose to deal with her childhood, there's no doubt that it will certainly open up a contentious debate. The bestiality incident she witnessed - no matter how many protestations to the contrary that the animal was never hurt/raped, just "spoiled" and "loving" left me infuriated and disgusted. No matter how brief the aforementioned incidents were, it doesn't take away the anger I had about these incidents.


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Mostly I surf guitar porn and read this forum. Occasionally I have to fix a radar test set, then spend more time documenting the work than doing it.
I also daydream about working at PRS.
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Modeling and Simulation of Advanced Weapons Systems by Day....
A Job perhaps like "the Mike" with a small California Dept. by night and weekends for the past 16 years.
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Yep, I am currently the only one at my Space Flight Center. I perform vibroacoustic analysis to predict the random vibration response for components on spacecraft. Occasionally, I'll serve as a test conductor for some of the hardware as it goes into our acoustic chamber. Here's a picture of the business end of the acoustic chamber.
The horns are 6 feet in diameter, and the chamber is 42 feet high. It's capable of sound pressures levels as high as 150 dB. The horns use liquid nitrogen as a powering fluid for the noise generators and consumes enough LN2 in a typical test to lower the atmospheric percentage of oxygen from 21% to 17% in the chamber.
BTW, I was at that launch, STS-125, which is the video pictured above. I was working as a bus captain escorting visitors at the launch site. One of the highlights of my career.
When I'm not obsessing about guitars & gear I'm a freelance composer/sound designer. I love my job.
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a state of being that may be applied as an adjective to various things which have attained a level just below legen, (wait for it) dary
LVR - "As an LL artisan, I can only claim to be epic. The MLVR is yet a master and therefore legen (wait for it) dary!"
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A word commonly misused by today's society. A title earned by factors such as depth of the story and size of the story's world.
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Desirae, one of the greatest people in the entire world. She is someone that can look up at a rainy day and the sky will part and the sun will shine, even if it is night. She is the greatest person in the world.
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This just in: The Phillies are really good. I know, who could have seen this coming with the makeshift roster they had entering the season? Still, these guys have perhaps been even better than everyone expected. Consider…
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— They've lost back-to-back games once since June 5.
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- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 2:19 PM
I hate the Phillies.
- SF Giants - Aug 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM
We do, too.http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=17700131&partnerId=aw-6083728055761918393-996
- josh f - Aug 12, 2011 at 2:46 PM
We are really going to regret losing those very winnable games in Chicago. I know J-Zimm is almost done for the year; how about Livo? If he fails again tonight, does he get pushed aside for Milone or Peacock?
- Mark'd - Aug 12, 2011 at 2:47 PM
Mark, I think tonight is 7:35. Luck of the draw, Hamels and Halladay in a 3 game series.
- m20832 - Aug 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM
GYFNG!!! Do the Winning Thing!
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:05 PM
Philthies suck
- NatsLady - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM
Come on, Livo, we love ya! Reach back there, you can still do it!!!
- natsfan1a - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM
You can do it, Livo!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAHnwWfsaY
- Traveler8 - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:28 PM
@Anonymous 11:05 am Don't be ridiculous. You don't have to like them, but the Phillies are remarkably good, and I hope the Nats can play up to their level.
- NatsJack in Florida - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM
It's not the team that I dislike. It's the rotten fans that Stan Kasten loved so much.
- NatsLady - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Livo, remember this??? You still got it.http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15932103
- LoveDaNats - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:35 PM
I actually like the Phillies. It's their fans that need work.
- SayNoToClint - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:39 PM
A question that stems from some comments/2012 lineup predictions in the previous thread…Everyone seems to want to move Morse back to LF next year. Why aren't we willing to give the guy a shot as the regular 1st baseman? He's played nearly error-free ball since moving there (1 error I think?). Plus he's a better bat. I think he's earned some consideration.
- Big Cat - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:41 PM
We get Hamel, Oswalt, and Halladay. i will be rooting, but its not very inviting is it?
- SonnyG10 - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:45 PM
Go get'em Livo!!! gyfng!!!
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:54 PM
We get one this weekend I'll be happy. I'll take the nats with 100 loses before I would ever root for PHILTHY. "The only thing good ever come out of Philly was an empty bus."
- jd - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM
SayNotoClint, Because we have Adam Laroche signed for next year at about $8 million.
- Steve M. - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM
SayNoToClint said… A question that stems from some comments/2012 lineup predictions in the previous thread…Everyone seems to want to move Morse back to LF next year. Why aren't we willing to give the guy a shot as the regular 1st baseman? He's played nearly error-free ball since moving there (1 error I think?). Plus he's a better bat. I think he's earned some consideration. August 12, 2011 11:39 AM LaRoche is under contract for 2012. If they don't trade LaRoche, Morse will have to move back to LF.Having a healthy LaRoche is a good thing for the Nats. I like the idea of having Marrero playing some 1st base against lefties in platoon.
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM
OK LUVDANATS. You can be excused. Anybody that have ever wore any kind of Philly uniform should be hated. Including Werth and Donovan
- Mark'd - Aug 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM
I look forward to seeing the real Adam LaRoche in 2012.
- JD - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:13 PM
Steve M. Does it make sense to you to have a 23 year old who is having a killer year at AAA play once every 4 days in a platoon situation? Aren't you retarding his development?
- NatsLady - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:19 PM
@SayNoToClint: Morse is good at 1B, no complaints. But LaRoche is phenomenal. Some of the plays he made (and remember, he was not playing full strength) WOW!So you want to keep Morse's bat, but you also want LaRoche. Someone made the suggestion that you deal LaRoche at the trade deadline next summer if Bryce comes up. That's a good thought, of course, depending on where we are in the standings. :))))
- The Great Unwashed - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM
Put me in the keep Morse at 1B camp. He's not the greatest defender in LF, but he's been surprisingly good defensively at first base and when he's comfortable, we've all seen his offensive production. Plus, he's under team control longer than LaRoche who is viewed as a stop gap.LaRoche is also known to be a slow starter with the bat, so everyone who is looking forward to his return next year should expect to see diminished offensive production from the 1B position, at least until around the all-star break.LaRoche can't play the outfield so there's no easy solution, but Maybe Rizzo can trade him in the offseason. I know, given his injury that's easier said than done.
- NatsLady - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Steve Lombardozzi, 2B, Nationals (Triple-A Syracuse): 3-for-5, R, 3 RBI. Subject of much trade chatter is a grinder with outstanding defensive fundamentals; .320/.359/.432 in 47 Triple-A games.— from Baseball Prospectus
- Steve M. - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:48 PM
JD said… Steve M.Does it make sense to you to have a 23 year old who is having a killer year at AAA play once every 4 days in a platoon situation? Aren't you retarding his development? August 12, 2011 12:13 PM Great question. I am not 100% sold on it but I believe that Marrero needs to show what he can do at the MLB level and 2 to 3 days a week and pinch hitting at this level may be more beneficial than AAA. I don't think Rizzo will agree with me. It will also give them the ability to trade LaRoche sooner than later if Marrero can play well at the MLB level although they do have a 2013 option on LaRoche and we still don't know if they will extend Michael Morse who is a Free Agent after 2013.
- Steve M. - Aug 12, 2011 at 4:56 PM
NatsLady said… Steve Lombardozzi, 2B, Nationals (Triple-A Syracuse): 3-for-5, R, 3 RBI. Subject of much trade chatter is a grinder with outstanding defensive fundamentals; .320/.359/.432 in 47 Triple-A games.— from Baseball Prospectus August 12, 2011 12:35 PM We will be seeing him in about 3 weeks and Danny can use some time off as can Desi as Lombo can play 2nd and Espi can play some short to give Desi some days off. The shame of the 2nd 1/2 of the season is how far Espi has fallen with the bat. No RBIs since July 17th and Davey has left him in the 2 hole in front of the super hot Zimmerman.Espi was looking like an All Star and a lock for Rookie of the Year in June. His swing and miss percentage has gotten worse. It took Davey until this week to suggest bunting. The batting average is bad and if he didn't have all those HBPs, his OBP wouldn't look as good but it is all the stranded runners on base which has really hurt. He was clutch the 1st half of the year and made his hits count.He has to shorten up that LH swing and trade HRs for batting average.
- A DC Wonk - Aug 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM
SayNoToClint said… Everyone seems to want to move Morse back to LF next year. Why aren't we willing to give the guy a shot as the regular 1st baseman?Morse has been adequate at 1B (actually, a bit sub-par — read on), but LaRoche was truly outstanding. Adam had zero errors in 42 games, and his UZR/150 (taking the UZR and extrapolating it over 150 games) was 11.9 (fielding estimated to save the Nats 11.9 runs), while Morse's is -3.4In fact, for 1B with over 300 innings played, LaRoche's 11.9 is far and away the best in the NL. (Second best is Loney (Dodgers) at 7.6). (Morse is 14th out of 19).
- Steve M. - Aug 12, 2011 at 6:49 PM
DC Wonk, good stats and this is actually a good problem to potentially have. Mike has made some exceptional plays scooping bouncing throws from the infielders and has done a good job. He has missed a few chances on grounders and doesn't quite have LaRoche's range. If you can move Morse back to LF with LaRoche at 1st that is an upgrade for offense and defense assuming we see LaRoche at 2010 stats.
- bups - Aug 12, 2011 at 6:53 PM
Ibanez and Ruiz will torch the Nats like they always do. Meanwhile, Werth will go 0-12 with ten wiffs. Without Morse in the lineup, there is no hope.
- NatsLady - Aug 12, 2011 at 7:01 PM
A lot hangs on which Livo goes out there tonight. Remember this one against Philly in April?http://www.thenatsblog.com/2011-articles/april/livan-rolls-the-dice-helps-bury-phillies.html
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 7:14 PM
With every passing gut wrenching loss, I see Davey wither a little. Almost like a flower wilting. I don't see him coming back. Its a little different without Strawberry, Gooden, Orosco, Nails, Carter, Hernandez, and of course Ray Knight
- Unkyd - Aug 12, 2011 at 7:51 PM
How bout we bring Marerro up? Bullpen's a little heavy, no?
- SayNoToClint - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:23 PM
Good points and discussion about Morse guys. As usual I never think about the money angle.A DC Wonk – those stats are surprising. My eyes have been telling me something different watching at the games — I would have said that Morse wasn't quite as good as LaRoche as a fielder, but the dropoff wasn't that big.I guess it just disappoints me that the guy (Morse) was asked to step up at a position he's never played before and has done nothing but turn into a huge stud. He nearly makes the All-Star team and he's probably going to lose his position next year. I guess that's life in the big leagues though.
- baseballswami - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:27 PM
Just returned from a business trip to — wait for it—–Philadelphia. Their fans are miserable all the time and if you didn't know their record, you would think they were a losing team. They just whine and complain all the time. They have at least 2 radio stations that talk about the team and have call-ins ALLDAY LONG. The people that call in are just hilarious (synonym for "ignorant"). It's just too bad that they can't relax and enjoy it. They are also miserable because they can basically NEVER go to a game – all sold out every day. Glad to be home in NATS country – haven't seen a game in a couple of days ( maybe that is a good thing?). This weekend looks grim, I know, but maybe they will rise to the occasion. One of the things the Philly fans complain about is that their team knows they are going to the playoffs and they are getting complacent and lazy. Maybe they will rest a few guys tonight? Also – their first home game after a very long road trip – should be a really interesting atmosphere for the Nats. I have been waaaay out of the loop – is MM hurt seriously?
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:30 PM
La Roche is just another inept bat on this team. Yes he's fielding is good but this team needs bats. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little. Keep morse where he is. Eat the money and get La gross outta here.
- Anonymous - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:36 PM
baseballswami You Rock!! Philly fans are just miserable people. They all deserve each other. I will never go to another Nats game against Philthy. Those people (yes I said THOSE people) ruin everything. Despicable that a couple years ago are upper mangement (forgot the name) invited them down to our stadium.
- Scooter - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:38 PM
SayNoToClint, there's also the old "rule" — as pertains to LaRoche — that you don't lose your position because of an injury. That might figure into the thinking a little bit too.But the bottom line is, do you want Morse and LaRoche or Morse and Mystery Left Fielder? (I'll accept either answer; it's up to you.)
- SayNoToClint - Aug 12, 2011 at 8:58 PM
Baseballswami,The one thing Philly fans have over us is their talk shows actually talk about baseball during baseball season. Meanwhile the "flagship Nats station" can still find a way to endlessly ramble about the Redskins even during May in the middle of a lockout.


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I am by no mean an expert but what I have found out is chickens will forage on the bugs and such until there isnt any then they go to your veggies. But you have to remember they like to stir things up and if a plant comes out in the mean time, oh well. I beg mine to go in my garden and even carry them to it, they dont stay they like under pine trees better. We left them in our corn patch that has cukes, beans and sunflowers and they didnt damage 1 plant.
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My chickens must be weird, because they have rarely caused any damage to my garden. I have to keep them away from seedlings or they will destroy them with their scratching around, but I have never had them peck at tomatoes. They do peck a little at the foliage, and the lettuce leaves. I've never felt the need to fence them out of the garden, and they spend most of their time eating grass or bugs around the yard.
I only have 3 chickens, though. ;)
Bumper, chickens by their very nature are attracted to gardens. BEFORE planting or AFTER harvesting that's a good thing (they'll do a pretty thorough job of bug hunting), but during the growing season they can be terrible! Tall crops provide cover from hawks while they hunt for bugs. Bare dirt will be scratched and dustbathed in (forget about any seeds you've planted there), mulch will be scattered in search of bugs hiding there---no roots will be left undisurbed. All leafy greens will be eaten to the ground and every pepper and tomato wil have at least one peck taken out of it. My personal advice is to keep them fenced out during the growing season.
Zoe, LOL, I had a neighbor whose hen hatched out a muscovy duckling when a neighbor's duck left eggs in the barn....my neighbor later complaigned that he knew when Graham Quacker had been in the garden with the chickens becuase most of the tomatoes would have a cone-shaped bite taken out of them....but one or two would have a crescent shaped chuck missing. (On the whole, my muscovies are much gentler on plants...no scratching or dust-bathing, just the occasional desire to make a nest amid the mulch.)
very helpful inputs - now that the seedlings are all up and well on their way, i'm tempted to let the flock out into the garden again.
i'll post how it goes! http://nwpodcast.blogspot.com
I know this has probably been asked before but everytime I do a search no results are found. I read a discussion on bestofthecountry forum about letting chickens out to forage in a garden and have to admit that I have spent all of my time trying to keep my chickens out of the garden, not in it. Will chickens forage in a garden without ruining the vegetable, or the plants themselves? Keeping the insect poulation down and getting free fertilizer sounds pretty good, but not at the expense of ruining what I have worked so hard to build.
There was also mention, in the same thread, about a "moveable chicken coop" that you could easily move around within the garden that sounded interesting, but not sure how that would work either dragging a small building around the garden....
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