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Paper-in-Screen Prototyping
In many industries, prototyping is an effective way of modeling a system to test it and gather feedback from engineers, other designers, stakeholders and, most importantly, end users.
Practitioners in the UX field are familiar with prototyping when designing physical devices, web, and mobile applications. UX designers can use Flash, HTML, or other robust programming languages to build prototypes that closely resemble the final product, allowing test participants to interact with the prototype more realistically to generate valuable feedback for designers.
Unfortunately, these types of prototypes aren't generally used early in a product's lifecycle because they can be difficult and slow to produce. UX designers trying to build these prototypes may need the help of software engineers or developers in the team. Besides taking considerable time and effort to create, implementing any changes on these type of prototypes can also be time-consuming.
Low-Fidelity Prototyping
To produce prototypes that are low cost, fast and easy to recreate, designers can turn to low-fidelity prototyping techniques such as paper prototyping. This technique involves creating rough drawings or sketches of interfaces that can be used as models of a design in usability tests. Paper prototyping is practical and useful because it allows for input by end users in early stages of the design cycle. The feedback gathered in these usability tests in turn informs design iterations before a design goes into full production.
But unlike high-fidelity prototypes, paper prototypes lack the context of the physical device the product will ultimately be deployed to. For example, a paper prototype of a website can only be experienced on the piece of paper that it was created on, whereas an HTML/CSS-based prototype can be experienced in a web browser. Paper prototypes also depend on a facilitator to act "as the computer," changing different states of the UI in response to a participant's actions.
The lack of physical context of paper prototypes is particularly problematic when designing mobile experiences. Because mobile applications are inside mobile devices, they can be experienced in many possible positions and contexts. Showing prototypes in an unusual setting (such as a flat piece of paper on a table) doesn't give users a full and accurate experience of the design. Simple paper prototypes can test a product's UI and content, but leave much of the broader product experience untested.
If we could replicate more of the mobile user experience using low-fidelity prototypes, we could get more of the feedback that would otherwise be more difficult and take longer to obtain. This can be done using a mixed-fidelity prototyping technique called paper-in-screen prototyping.
What is Paper-in-Screen Prototyping?
The idea behind this technique is simple: place the paper prototype of the mobile application inside the mobile device. This is achieved by adapting images of low-fidelity (paper) prototypes to display on a mobile device's screen. This allows users to get closer to experiencing aspects of the mobile user experience that are absent with paper UI sketches alone.
This prototyping technique is practical since it leverages prototypes that are likely to have been previously made for testing. If a designer has sketched a number of paper prototypes to conduct a usability test or a heuristic evaluation, these can be easily turned into paper-in-screen prototypes.
These mixed-fidelity prototypes share some important characteristics with paper prototyping. They are still relatively easy to create and discard. They also look "sketchy" and "unfinished," which allows participants to provide feedback they otherwise might not have shared for fear of criticizing a design that appears to have many hours of work behind it.
Paper-in-screen prototyping and regular paper prototyping both have a similar place in the overall lifecycle of the design of an application. They both allow for quick production testing and iterative design.
How to Create a Paper-in-Screen Prototype
The following are the keys steps to produce a paper-in-screen prototype, taking the design of an iPhone application as an example:
Testing a Design Using Paper-in-Screen Prototypes
It is important to establish linear scenarios before conducting a test using paper-in-screen prototypes because the prototypes aren't fully interactive. Test participants should go through a series of pre-defined scenarios during in the same way they would with paper prototypes.
It is evident that paper-in-screen prototypes are not as realistic as high-fidelity prototypes, but they have the important advantage over low-fidelity prototypes in that users can hold the prototype in their hands in the same way they would hold the product in their hands.
Besides bringing a paper prototype to a more adept context of use, this makes it more practical for practitioners to carry all the scenarios and their corresponding prototypes in one place: the mobile device itself.
Visceral, Behavioral, and Reflective Levels of Design
The value of testing a design prototype extends beyond just evaluating UI elements and interactions; behavioral and emotional feedback are also valuable insights that prototypes draw out of test users. Although a paper prototype can allow a user to experience the way an application might look, it doesn't generate the immediate emotional impact that the product ultimately will. These are things that matter at the visceral level of design, one of the three levels of design (along with behavioral and reflective) that Don Norman explains in his book, Emotional Design. Failing to account for the visceral level of design results in failing to anticipate the real mobile user experience because it dismisses the level of affect, or emotional response, that a prototype could elicit in the participant in a particular context.
Paper-in-screen prototyping also accounts in part for Norman's behavioral level of design, which should be of main interest to UX professional as it deals directly with interaction and usability. With this prototyping technique, practitioners can easily get closer to contextually relevant behaviors of participants interacting with a low-fidelity prototype that would otherwise not be possible. For example, a paper-in-screen prototype of a mobile application can easily allow a UX designer to see where a participant is placing a finger on the screen, which sections may be getting overlooked, and even how the mobile device is being held.
Paper-in-Screen and UX Practitioners
The benefits of paper-in-screen are clear from a test participant's perspective. To find out whether UX professionals would find paper-in-screen valuable, this technique was tested with ten UX professionals as part of the study behind my master's thesis project at Indiana University. The goals were to discover whether this prototyping technique is able to effectively replicate the mobile user experience, and whether UX professionals would be willing to adopt it.
The participants were asked to create design paper prototypes for two scenarios involving a fake iPhone application. For this, they used a pre-made template (shown to the right). After examining the scenarios with the paper prototypes, the participants were introduced to the paper-in-screen technique and shown how to make one step-by-step. Finally, they were able to test their own paper-in-screen prototypes inside an iPhone with the study's facilitator.
The majority of the UX professionals in the study found paper-in-screen prototyping to be engaging and suitable for early design stages. Some wished it could be even more interactive like higher-fidelity prototypes. However, the most interesting finding was that paper-in-screen was regarded as providing better user feedback compared to paper prototyping, despite being more difficult to achieve.
The perception of better feedback was based on how paper prototypes can't approximate the mobile user experience as well as paper-in-screen prototypes can. The perception of such better feedback being more difficult to achieve with paper-in-screen prototypes came from the fact that they can't be annotated or written on in the way paper prototypes can.
As a result, paper-in-screen prototyping falls somewhere between low-fidelity and high-fidelity prototyping in terms of the tradeoff between the richness of the test experience and the rapidity with which prototypes can be created.
Paper-in-screen prototyping also allowed for the discovery of some essential elements than can help simulate the mobile user experience: contextual interaction experience, a better sense of realism, a focus on visceral and behavioral levels of design, the prototype-digitizing speed, and overall interactivity are all key benefits of this mid-fidelity approach.
Paper-in-screen doesn't come without its drawbacks. This technique requires test participants to follow a predetermined scenario, which leads to a strictly linear experience that inhibits any spontaneous actions. If paper prototypes could be easily scanned into image files with clickable "hot spots" that could be rendered by a mobile browser (displaying the image in full screen), the usefulness of paper-in-screen prototypes would be improved.
Clearly, this prototyping technique could be improved in order to get more realistic feedback from lower-fidelity prototypes. It is important, however, to make sure any modifications of this technique don't result in making mixed-fidelity prototypes more difficult to create than necessary, or as time consuming to create as full-fledged high-fidelity prototypes.
This technique aims to bridge the gap between low- and high-fidelity prototyping in providing a contextually relevant user experience early during the test of a design idea. From one UX designer to another, I hope you find this technique useful by including in your personal and professional design process.
I would like to formally thank Dr. Davide Bolchini and Dr. Anthony Faiola at IUPUI's School of Informatics for their contribution and assistance on developing this concept.
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I have mixed feelings on the utility of scanning things like this because it kind of kills off some of the major benefits of paper prototyping. That said:
I'm kind of surprised by a few of the responses, which seem to indicate that sketching in the first place doesn't count as "prototyping" or isn't worthwhile. Paper prototyping is a very accepted way to design something quickly and cheaply so that it can quickly be shown and interacted with by users. Why spend two days building something once a group finally comes to a decision when you can put something together in hours?
It's an intermediate step -- just because you all agree on a sketch isn't enough to move on to something more robust. Paper prototyping's notable benefit is that little time has been invested in it and it requires no real software skills -- anyone can do it, anyone can do it quickly and the drawings can be scrapped without the typical hurt feelings involved in scrapping more final designs.
It prevents expectations that users sometimes have with higher fidelity designs and, more importantly, you can create things completely on the fly right when that user is using the prototypes. You've wasted as little time as possible and often you'll find that users seem to be more honest with something they see as being less "in stone" than anything more robust. Nothing else facilitates this nearly as well, whether you're coding or using a tool like Balsamiq. It's extremely useful when you're trying to work with your users, what they want and what they expect from your site or software -- particularly if the product you're making is something completely new.
Whether you scan in sketches or design something more hi-fidelity in Photoshop etc, give App in Seconds a go. It allows you to launch your mock-up / prototype from the homescreen of the iPhone. All of your sketches or screens can be linked together in an intelligent fashion. No technical knowledge required. Bob's your uncle :)
I am an interface designer myself. Putting all the screens in a PDF and hyperlinking the pages is the way to go I think. Put hyperlinks over screens/buttons in Acrobat, or use Indesign, Keynote...
Especially for that use-case we did a little app: http://www.link-viewer.com
Maybe you want to check it out.
Just thought I'd point out these stickynotes that I developed that were designed for sketching and prototyping.
You can also download free templates to help you sketch within the accurate scale and porportions of mobile and web viewports which may help simplify things when digitising your sketches.
Nice article! I'd like to add another benefit of this method to the list: having a prototype on a physical device is better suited to contextual situated use than a paper prototype. Especially for testing mobile applications with a strong tie to the context they are used in (augmented reality comes to mind), having your users at 'real' locations with physical devices can result in richer insights, without needing to go for high-fidelity.
I agree paper prototyping is great, but some of the steps here seem slightly long winded. I can't personally see the relevance of scanning and importing to the device – why not just jump straight to hi-fi mockups?
Personally, I think this is a bit wacky to be honest. After all, there are some perfectly great tools available (such as Balsamiq) which can achieve a similar end without resorting to paper and scanning.
More importantly (in my experience) is that once something is purely in the digital domain, it's far easier to modify/clone/adapt/compare/contrast and so forth. So, why even bother with the paper prototypes in the first place? It strikes me to be unnecessary extra work and a good tool - such as Balsamiq, or others such as JustProto or WireframeSketcher - will probably work out even quicker to use than drawings - and avoid the nasty scanning & fixing stage.
Interesting approach, though, and it might just be the 'working pattern' that works for somebody!
I encountered this issue and devised a similar approach three years ago to prototype an iPhone application I was designing. The approach I used differed in a couple of respects from the approach outlined in the article.
1) Instead of creating low fidelity prototypes, I made use of Yahoo's Design Pattern Library for iPhone. With this I was able to quickly lay out the screens, using their OmniGraffle stencil. Since the iPhone was relatively new at the time, being able to mimic iOS felt like an important choice to make.
(Naturally as iOS devices become ever more ubiquitous, this is less necessary, and may even be counterproductive, depending on the project). I imported the flat screens into Axure and created a clickable prototype which was capable of mimicking some of the iPhone's interactions.
2) I generated a prototype from this and embedded it in an iframe, designed to fit exactly to the dimensions of the iPhone's screen. I uploaded the prototype to a server then used Safari on the iPhone to navigate to it. It rendered the prototype in the iframe quite small, but it was a simple matter of zooming it to scale it to the iPhone's screen.
With this approach I was able to test and refine gestural interactions and examine the flow through the application.
Scanning doesn't make a sketch a prototype. Prototypes are simple models of finished products. You can't click or touch a sketch. You don't know how long a sketch will take to implement until you try. Once you have agreement on a sketch, it's time to move straight to the prototype. That means code. A single screen should take no more than day or two. If you can't do that, it's time to buck up and learn your medium.
At Epicenter we've been using this approach inside InVision (http://www.InVisionApp.com), our new prototyping tool (soon to be commercially released). Here's a really quick example we whipped together. It's an app that lets you find movies that are playing back-to-back so you can take in a double feature :)
Made using InVision: http://invis.io/MEIUPD
Love this approach Diego. I especially love the idea of showing hand-drawn materials more often. I've used a similar approach, digitizing and annotating paper prototypes, and found it to be very effective and efficient. I'd love to see an app that allows for hotspot linking between images to make for a more interactive experience. Can we get on that?


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- Laetrile is not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) (see Question 8).
Questions and Answers About Laetrile / Amygdalin
Laetrile is a compound that has been used as a treatment for people with cancer worldwide. It is not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as a treatment for cancer or any other medical condition. The term "laetrile" comes from 2 words (laevorotatory and mandelonitrile) and is used to describe a purified form of the chemical amygdalin. Amygdalin is a plant compound that contains sugar and produces cyanide. Cyanide is believed to be the active cancer-killing ingredient in laetrile. Amygdalin is found in the pits of many fruits and in raw nuts. It is also found in other plants such as lima beans, clover, and sorghum.
The names laetrile, Laetrile, and amygdalin are often used in place of one another, but they are not the same product. The chemical make-up of Laetrile patented in the United States is different from the laetrile/amygdalin produced in Mexico. The patented Laetrile is a partly synthetic (man-made) form of amygdalin, while the laetrile/amygdalin made in Mexico comes from crushed apricot pits. The studies discussed in this fact sheet used either Mexican laetrile/amygdalin or Laetrile. The generic term "laetrile" will be used throughout this summary except in cases when the patented version of Laetrile is known to have been used in a study.
What is the history of the discovery and use of laetrile as a complementary or alternative treatment for cancer?Amygdalin was first isolated in 1830 and was used as an anticancer agent in Russia as early as 1845. Its first recorded use in the United States as a treatment for cancer was in the 1920s. The early pill form of amygdalin was found to be too toxic, and work with the compound was stopped. In the 1950s, a reportedly nontoxic, partly synthetic form of amygdalin was made and patented in the United States as Laetrile. Laetrile gained popularity in the 1970s as a single anticancer agent and as part of a metabolic therapy program that included a special diet, high-dose vitamin supplements, and pancreatic enzymes (a group of proteins that aid in the digestion of food). By 1978, more than 70,000 people in the United States had reportedly been treated with Laetrile.
What is the theory behind the claim that laetrile is useful in treating cancer?Cyanide is thought to be the main anticancer ingredient in laetrile. Two other breakdown products of amygdalin, prunasin (which is similar in structure to Laetrile) and benzaldehyde, may also be cancer cell blockers. See the PDQ health professional summary on Laetrile/Amygdalin for more information on theory.
How is laetrile administered?Laetrile is given by mouth (orally) as a pill. It can also be given by injection into a vein (intravenously) or muscle. Laetrile is commonly given intravenously over a period of time and then orally as maintenance therapy (treatment given to help extend the benefit of previous therapy).
Have any preclinical (laboratory or animal) studies been conducted using laetrile?Preclinical studies have been done with laetrile either alone or combined with other substances. These studies tested the benefits of laetrile against cancer, the side effects of laetrile treatment, where and how laetrile breaks down in the body, and how laetrile and its breakdown products leave the body. Laboratory and animal studies have shown little evidence that laetrile is effective against cancer.
Have any clinical trials (research studies with people) of laetrile been conducted?No controlled clinical trials (trials that compare groups of patients who receive the new treatment to groups who do not) of laetrile have been reported.
Although many anecdotal reports (incomplete descriptions of the medical/treatment history of one or more patients) and case reports (detailed reports of the diagnosis, treatment, and follow-up of individual patients) are available, they provide little evidence to support laetrile as a treatment for cancer.
The following has been reported from case series about the use of laetrile in patients with cancer:
- A case series (a group or series of case reports involving patients who were given similar treatment) of 44 patients treated with laetrile was published in 1953. Most of the patients who showed some improvement also received radiation therapy or anticancer drugs, so it is not known which treatment produced the benefit.
- In another series of case reports published in 1962, 10 patients with metastatic cancer (cancer that has spread from one part of the body to another) were treated with a wide range of doses of intravenous Laetrile. Pain relief was the main reported benefit. Reduced swelling of lymph nodes and decreased tumor size were also reported. Long-term follow-up with these patients was not done, however, so it is not known how long the benefits lasted after treatment.
- Benzaldehyde, which is made when laetrile is broken down by the body, has also been tested for anticancer activity in humans. In two clinical series (case reports of a number of patients who are treated consecutively in a clinic), patients with advanced cancer who had not responded to standard therapy were treated with benzaldehyde. Some patients had a complete response (the disappearance of all signs and symptoms of cancer), while some had a decrease in tumor size. The responses to benzaldehyde lasted as long as the treatment continued. Almost all of the patients had been treated previously with chemotherapy or radiation therapy, but it is not known how soon treatment with benzaldehyde began after the other treatment ended.
- In 1978, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) requested case reports from practitioners who believed their patients were helped by treatment with laetrile. Ninety-three cases were submitted; 67 of these were complete enough to be evaluated. An expert panel concluded that 2 of the 67 patients had complete responses and 4 others had a decrease in tumor size. Based on these 6 cases, NCI sponsored clinical studies with laetrile.
Findings from only 2 clinical trials with laetrile have been published. These trials, sponsored by NCI, were done in the late 1970s and early 1980s, and did not include a control group for comparison.
The following has been reported from these 2 clinical trials about the use of laetrile in patients with cancer:
- The first trial, a phase I study, tested doses, schedules, and ways to give amygdalin in 6 cancer patients. Researchers found that amygdalin caused very few side effects when given by mouth or intravenously. Two patients who ate raw almonds while taking amygdalin, however, developed symptoms of cyanide poisoning.
- In 1982, a phase II study with 175 patients looked at which types of cancer might benefit from treatment with amygdalin. Most of the patients in this study had breast, colon, or lung cancer. Amygdalin was given by injection for 21 days, followed by oral maintenance therapy using doses and procedures similar to those in the phase I study. Vitamins and pancreatic enzymes were also given as part of a metabolic therapy program that also included dietary changes. One stomach cancer patient showed a decrease in tumor size, which was maintained for 10 weeks while the patient was on amygdalin therapy. In about half of the patients, cancer had grown at the end of the treatment. Cancer had grown in all patients 7 months after completing treatment. Some patients reported an improvement in their ability to work or do other activities, and other patients said their symptoms improved. These improvements, however, did not last after treatment ended.
The side effects of laetrile treatment are like the symptoms of cyanide poisoning. These symptoms include:
- Nausea and vomiting.
- Headache.
- Dizziness.
- Blue color of the skin due to a lack of oxygen in the blood.
- Liver damage.
- Abnormally low blood pressure.
- Droopy upper eyelid.
- Trouble walking due to damaged nerves.
- Fever.
- Mental confusion.
- Coma.
- Death.
The side effects of laetrile appear to depend on the way it is given. More severe side effects develop when laetrile is given by mouth than when it is given by injection. These side effects may be increased by:
- Eating raw almonds or crushed fruit pits.
- Eating certain types of fruits and vegetables, including celery, peaches, bean sprouts, and carrots.
- Taking high doses of vitamin C.
The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved laetrile as a treatment for cancer in the United States. The drug is made and used as a cancer treatment in Mexico.
Laetrile compounds from Mexico, which is the primary supplier of laetrile, may vary in purity and contents. Products containing bacteria and other substances and products labeled incorrectly have been found.
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Complementary and alternative medicine (CAM)—also referred to as integrative medicine—includes a broad range of healing philosophies, approaches, and therapies. A therapy is generally called complementary when it is used in addition to conventional treatments; it is often called alternative when it is used instead of conventional treatment. (Conventional treatments are those that are widely accepted and practiced by the mainstream medical community.) Depending on how they are used, some therapies can be considered either complementary or alternative. Complementary and alternative therapies are used in an effort to prevent illness, reduce stress, prevent or reduce side effects and symptoms, or control or cure disease.
Unlike conventional treatments for cancer, complementary and alternative therapies are often not covered by insurance companies. Patients should check with their insurance provider to find out about coverage for complementary and alternative therapies.
Cancer patients considering complementary and alternative therapies should discuss this decision with their doctor, nurse, or pharmacist as they would any therapeutic approach, because some complementary and alternative therapies may interfere with their standard treatment or may be harmful when used with conventional treatment.
Evaluation of CAM Approaches
It is important that the same rigorous scientific evaluation used to assess conventional approaches be used to evaluate CAM therapies. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) are sponsoring a number of clinical trials (research studies) at medical centers to evaluate CAM therapies for cancer.
Conventional approaches to cancer treatment have generally been studied for safety and effectiveness through a rigorous scientific process that includes clinical trials with large numbers of patients. Less is known about the safety and effectiveness of complementary and alternative methods. Few CAM therapies have undergone rigorous evaluation. A small number of CAM therapies originally considered to be purely alternative approaches are finding a place in cancer treatment—not as cures, but as complementary therapies that may help patients feel better and recover faster. One example is acupuncture. According to a panel of experts at a National Institutes of Health (NIH) Consensus Conference in November 1997, acupuncture has been found to be effective in the management of chemotherapy-associated nausea and vomiting and in controlling pain associated with surgery. In contrast, some approaches, such as the use of laetrile, have been studied and found ineffective or potentially harmful.
The NCI Best Case Series Program, which was started in 1991, is one way CAM approaches that are being used in practice are being investigated. The program is overseen by the NCI's Office of Cancer Complementary and Alternative Medicine (OCCAM). Health care professionals who offer alternative cancer therapies submit their patients' medical records and related materials to OCCAM. OCCAM conducts a critical review of the materials and develops follow-up research strategies for approaches deemed to warrant NCI-initiated research.
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- What side effects can be expected?
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- Do the known benefits outweigh the risks?
- What benefits can be expected from this therapy?
- Will the therapy interfere with conventional treatment?
- Is this therapy part of a clinical trial?
- If so, who is sponsoring the trial?
- Will the therapy be covered by health insurance?
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Date: 05/03/2012 07:22 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
okay. now, fair warning, i am NOT a trio shipper. i suppose it's one thing if all three of them are in love with each other, i could probably accept it.
but that's not the case here (not yet anyway). i'm looking at harry/hermione's apology to ron. was the sex inevitable? probably. but the issue is compounded in this fic.
maybe sex was inevitable, but that doesn't change the betrayal and harry/hermione seem way too eager to get ron to understand and forgive. almost as if they're putting their own feelings before considering his. as ron says, they knew what they were doing was wrong. them loving each otheror them thinking they were stuck there doesn't make it right in the slightest. inevitable, but not right.
and then we get to the love thing. this...i don't know if it makes it better or worse. because a part of me almost does believe two people stuck together like that would inevitably fall in love. but you know what? i don't see it as a good thing like hermione tells harry. for one, it almost degrades their love. it reminds me almost of stockholm syndrome, that it only could've happened under these crazy circumstances. of cours, if they could've found out some other way, then that makes them even guiltier for starting up in the first place.
but the reason i think it's a bad thing is the end game. okay, maybe not if there's a trio sequel (though what happens to ginny?), but otherwise, yeah. harry has to watch hermione with ron everyday, loving her and not having her. same for hermione & harry. and ron also sees that between them every time they talk or touch or whatever.
i knw the whole 'loved and lost better than never loved at all' thing. but this isn't love lost. this is love with a glass wall in between. i don't see how all of them won't experience the same guilt harry and hermione did while in the other world.
and for all hermione's intelignece, she sounds really, really dumb talking about the virginity stuff. this is actually the one thing i don't get, you being a guy. are there guys who care about getting to break a girl's hymen? yes. but you'd be hard-pressed to find a guy who doesn't care MORE about all the other stuff in sharing a first time. THAT'S what's been denied ron, and what hermione and magic will never fix. hell, my heart breaks for ron all over again at the end when he asks hermione the names. she's going to do the EXACT SAME THING she did with harry. and they will both know it. that's what's so fucked up.
okay i'm probably sounding like i'm complaining, and i'm sorry because this is very powerful story. so let me make that clear. but i did want to bitch slap hermione when she told ron she'd never have another man if ron didn't want her. she made it 24 days. she's a nut if she thinks she can go FOREVER, especilly now, knowing what it's like.
and the forgiveness happens way too fast. for one, i don't believe ron couldn't handle hearing about h/hr in that detailed a maner from harry. and that shared minds thing just seems way too convenient in speeding up the recovery process. it doesn't even give ron the chance to be upset which he NEEDS to be. we deal with weeks of harry and hermione's torment and ron gets about 10 paragraphs?
and finally, why does ron have to be with hermione if he loves her? harry isn't (not yet), so why does ron have to? can't he love her from afar?
i guess i just hate that ron is always the one who gets shafted in pretty much any fic that doesn't stick exactly to canon. in harry/hermione, ron always gets thrown over. hermione gets two men's love and ron doesn't even get hermione all to himself. i do love the reality of life being unfair, but, seriously, it's always more unfair to RON than anyone else.
someone needs to write a fic where harry has a sister that ron can bang.
Author's Response:
Wow! This is a HUGE, deep, meaty review, and I really appreciate you taking the time and putting in the thought to offer it.
How you feel is how you feel; there's not much I can do about that. That said there are a couple of specific points you bring up that I do want to address.
First, I really want to emphasize that there's a difference between Ron have grown and matured enough to ba able to recognize that he still loves them both even while he's overwhelmed by their betrayal of him, and forgiving them. He's only starting, in the epilogue, to really forgive, and even tghereafter, it's going to be a long, slow process. The fact that he can put aside his rage and do what's right, including admitting that, through his rage, he still loves his friend, doesn't mean that the rage is all over with, and I certainly tried to protray that.
If I ever get to writing it, there'll be a sequel called "Slouching Toward Forgiveness" that will cover more of that.
The significance of the hymen thing isn't that men give a particular damn about it one way or another. It's a symbolic pledge. What's important isn't really tearing flesh and a bit of blood: it's Hermione's commitment to Ron. It's her acknowledgment that she wronged him, and is placing herself in his hands.
Likewise, I don't think that what Harry and Hermione do is so much apologize -- although they clearly do express their regret for betraying and hurting Ron -- as simply give him what he was asking for: the reality of what they experienced. They don't offer any excuses, they don't offer any justifications. They just provide him with the truth of what happened.
Lastly, I don't feel that Ron gets shafted. Ron dedicates himself to bringing his best friend and the woman he loves back, and he achieves that. In the process, he grows and matures as a person, and while he still has problems, he builds himself a context in which to work through and solve them, slowly, with a lot of hard work, as it should be, but with his friends, who have always been, even when they betrayed him, devoted to him, and deeply loving him. A lot of people go their whole lives with a lot less.
Date: 10/10/2011 12:14 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
I've never felt so awkward while reading a good story, and that is to be taken as a compliment. :)
Author's Response: I completely understand the feeling, and I'm very pleased with the compliment, so thank you!
Date: 07/26/2010 11:48 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
This story was ridiculous. I can buy Harry and Hermione getting together in that limbo they were in. But Ron forgiving them both? Ron hated Viktor for just writing letters to Hermione, but he and Harry are still best mates? Ron's biggest weakness is his insecurity, and he's going to be with Hermione when she tells him that she's in love with Harry, too? Are you kidding me?
Author's Response: It's called character growth. Ron is not the same man at the end of this story that he was in the beginning, much less in the early parts of OotP. Sorry it didn't work for you.
Date: 09/04/2009 04:28 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
Hmmm I can appreciate the feelings that Ron went through. I guess I'm not cut out to be a full Trio fan in the Broomshed sense on this website heh. Objectively I must say you write well though. :)
Author's Response: Thanks for reading and reviewing. This is a hard story for a lot of readers, because it is absolutely a story of betrayal. I like to think it is also a story of finding strength to go on, and of learning to be an adult who can take the rough with the smooth, but that betrayal is at the core of it. I don't consider this story to be Trio, although that is where I see the future for these characters in the wake of this story. There may be sequels.
Date: 02/08/2009 04:48 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
i thought that i had put in a review for this right after i read it but seein' as i didn't here goes: THIS STORY ROCKS!!!!! omg!!!! i have to say that harry was a bit too naive for my taste...but then again he grew up with the dursleys and they really didnt teach him anything. but i guess i thought that he would have known SOMETHING. but then again his naievity made him all the more desirable; like u wanted to reach in there and teach him every thing he needed to know and then some and pulling that kind of emotion from a reader is the mark of a good writer so...kudos to u on that. i also liked the interactions between ron and krum. it's always good to know that two men will put all differences aside when the woman they love is in danger. i admire them both and their mutal respect. bravo. now i must say...i am a big fan of harry/hermione hotness. we all know in the end that she marries ron and he marries ginny and everyone lives happily ever yadda yadda yadda and we move on. but i seem to enjoy harry and hermione pairings becuz i see it as something that actually could have been and would've been great if they acted on it. they make for a very interesting couple and i cant help but wonder what would have been if she hadnt fallen for ron. i enjoyed their togetherness....it was very hot. all in all i really enjoyed this story. keep up the good work.
Author's Response: Thanks very much for reading and reviewing! In this universe, I don't think Harry and Ginny will ever be back together. And Ron will still have a lot of baggage to work through as well... But I think they'll end up, all three of them, in a much better place, as Ron learns to truly accept his own words to Hermione in the epilogue.
Date: 04/22/2008 07:58 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
I'm bleary-eyed with exhaustion, but I couldn't stop reading this. Harry was a little too naive for my liking, but overall, the story was wonderful.
And I agree--Ron's no one's sidekick.
Author's Response: Thank you so much for the kind words. I really do appreciate them.
I know it's a long, long story, and it's kind of anfair to drag you the whole length of it without chapter breaks, but, well, that's how I saw it, all of a piece, even though I presented it to readers on my LJ in 10 "parts." Thanks for slogging on through!
Date: 12/19/2007 08:29 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
That was very enjoyable and very creative. Thanks so much for sharing it with us. :)
Author's Response: Thanks so much for reading and reviewing. I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Date: 09/25/2007 12:48 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
First off, I get the L'Engle comparison, though it also made me think of Slaughterhouse Five (the outer-space parts). Only, H & H are even more isolated. I was disturbed by how and how much Hermione punishes herself, and I almost stopped reading, but I decided to trust you and keep going. I'm glad I did. It's still disturbing but the angst is very powerful and well-handled.
I found Harry a bit too passive and gentle, more Book 6 than Book 7 if that makes sense. And would he really be that ignorant about women? I know you've written him that way elsewhere, and it's certainly more plausible than when people write him as a savvy super-stud, but it seems like he would know more than that. I do like how you handled his feelings for Hermione, and his desire was sexier than in some of your other stories, because it overpowered him, no matter how he fought it.
Ron was good but more forgiving/understanding of everyone, including Viktor than I'd expect. I think if he caught H & H cuddling, post sex, everyone's reactions would be a bit more plausible. It's like they immediately forgot they were fucking until he reminded them. Maybe that's to do with the weird planet/spa they're on but everyone accepted it more than I'd expect.
I like your take on Viktor, though I hadn't ever thought of his father as rich or Muggle-hating. But bravo to Viktor for being so likable and down to earth despite that.
I like that you didn't divide this up into chapters. I think given the way that the world/story went in circles, it couldn't be divided. It had to just go on and on till the end. Even with the shifts in POV, the situation was inescapable.
The only problem is, it's harder to isolate specific parts for commenting on, compared to if it had divisions. So I'll just conclude by saying that, despite my criticisms, you did good with a hard story.
Author's Response:
I really need to read the late Ms. L'Engle. Hermione's self-abuse was incredibly disturbing to me, and incredibly hard to write.
Do please remember that this story was written more than a year ago. The Harry I had to work with then was, indeed, book six, not seven.
I agree with your criticism of Ron's forgiving Harry and Hermione. Not so much Krum, who he went to "hat in hand" looking for help, and was treated with great magninimity and then real friendship.
The story did appear on my LJ in 10 parts, presented as I wrote them, but I always saw it as a single, unchaptered fic. It can be read in ten chapters at The Restrivted Section.
Thanks so much for the very kind and cogent words. I heartily appreciate them.
Date: 02/11/2007 11:27 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
And I just have to add one other comment I'd meant to mention, but somehow clicked "submit" before doing it.
After seeing the recent photos promoting a certain West End play that opens soon, if I were Hermione standed in that sort of situtation with Harry . . .
Well, I'll just say she is a MUCH stronger person than I am because I expect I'd have been saying "Ron who?" 15 minutes after we'd arrived there.
But you're a guy, and I'm sure you're wondering why I felt compelled to mention that in a review of one of your stories. I mention it because it was all I could see in my mind while I read what you'd written about how Hermione kept steeling looks at Harry's body...kind of like me and those pictures.
Author's Response: Yeah, if my photoshopping skills were better, I can easily see taking one of those shots -- the one with Joanna Christie holding Dan from behind -- and making it Harry and Hermione in the Empty Universe. So I thank Dan and Joanna and teh folks behind Equus for creating some nice promotional material for my story! LOL!
And, because I forgot to mention it to you:
I'm so glad the sex scenes worked for you. I was very nervous, beign a guy, writing sex from a woman's point of view, so I'm always gratified to hear good words about it from a female reader!
And, boy, as much as I'm loving these reviews, I'm almost sorry you read this story, at this point, because I WANT THE NEXT CHAPTER OFTHAT NEED!
Oh, and none of that nonsense from your review of "Unbreakable Bond" about you not being a good writer. You're wonderful. Ron's trick with the Honey.... Oh, man!
Date: 02/11/2007 11:20 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
Again, WOW ... I think you've been "wowing" me off and on all day (and I really SHOULD be sleeping now). Knickers are still in my purse...although I actually need a dry pair now as well (I had a feeling your sex scenes would be my undoing) ... and now this is 2 stories where you've made me talk about my knickers, and again, I don't normally mention them in reviews (although you were quite right...that is the entire point of this stuff). And I did friend you on LJ, so friend me back so I can read your stuff that's there, but I'll warn you ahead of time before you look for things that aren't there...I really don't have a clue yet how to use LJ. I actually set up the account in the beginning so I could read more of Shocolate's work (also an awesome writer, but I think I've seen where you already know that, right?).
But back to this story, it was awesome on so many levels, not the least of which I think was that it was in perfect canon. I mean, I know JKR doesn't actually include sex in her books, but I can so easily see Harry & Hermione feeling and fighting the pull of attraction, and poor Ron willing to risk anything to get to them. And his sense of betrayal upon finding them...I know I told you earlier today Ron would do anything for Harry and I could see him sharing Hermione with him...and I can...but I see it as having been by his choice, so I agree it would be difficult for him to deal with it once it had become reality without him having a say in the matter.
You know I love Trio, and I think you have this set up SO WELL to go into a Trio sequel. Ginny won't or can't forgive Harry; Ron knows Hermione love him, but she still loves Harry as well, and Ron can't bear to see Harry alone (and maybe he remembers how it good felt when Viktor touched him-even though the idea bothered him-and he wonders how that would be WITH Harry, instead of a sacrifice he made for Harry). And Harry did say he wished he could do that with Ron...
I probably wouldn't mind seeing your Viktor with the Trio in another setting, but I don't think so in this story. In this story, I can see scenes of Viktor wanking alone (very slowly and erotically) in his castle as he feels Ron with Hermione, or with Harry and Hermione (can he feel them now too, since the Trio sort of expanded that connection in order to get them all back?)
Or maybe he could be visiting the Trio at Grimmauld Place since he's now Ron's friend, in addition to being Hermione's friend (and I think in GOF we saw he has a healthy respect for Harry as well), and maybe he could be wanking in a guest room there while they make love in a room nearby, and Ron (or they, if the connection was expanded to all of them) could feel Viktor's hands on himself...yeah, I like it that way...and maybe Ginny could wander into Viktor's room (obviously, you'll need to have built up some sexual tension between them already) and this could be the start of a relationship between them perhaps (I mean, after Harry, you can't just have her settling for Neville or Seamus. At the very least, give her Draco, but I'm thinking Viktor might make a better match for her.
OH...and it's all YOUR FAULT...I didn't ever get my next chapter posted to That Need because I spent all day reading (and re-reading) your stuff!!! Maybe tomorrow...oh, wait...it IS tomorrow now.
I gotta get some sleep...G'night!
Author's Response: Oh, Jamie, you are just blowing me away with your reviews! Thank you so much!
It's clear that we see eye-to-eye on the characters of Harry, Ron and Hermione, and their relationships, all four of them. Seeing how much they long for one another, Ron would probably be offering to let Harry and Hermione be together right now -- And, of course, getting scolded by Hermione for thinking he can pass her around like a party favor, while Harry panics and backs off, and beats himself up even more for disrupting their relationship -- but his hurt sense of betrayal and rage won't let him.
There's a mini-sequel, not quite in the works, called "Slouching Towards Forgiveness," in which Remus Lupin will help Ron see past his anger and insecurity to a workable solution.
And the scenes you mentioned for a sequel fit in awfully well with a smutty/fluffy one I've pondered, because, yes, Viktor is now linked with all of them, and while everyone is learning some occlumency as a result, they always have some of this awareness.
And Viktor/Ginny is an idea that appeals to me, now that I think about it. That could be a great solution!
Thanks again, so very much, for this wonderful review.
(And, yes, you've been friended on LJ, and into my "Gets to read the Smut" group, so stop by and say "Howdy!")
Date: 12/23/2006 01:31 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
That was.... odd. I think. I honestly can't tell you if I likied it or not. But I can tell you that once I started reading it, I couldn't stop until I finished. So good job writing! lol.
Author's Response: Thanks! This was, far and away, the most controversial story I've written. It doesn't fall neatly into any of the usual "ships" and has characters we like doing things we don't. I've been told it's a slap in hte face to H/Hr and a betrayal of R/Hr and,well.... IT seems to hit readers where they live.
I, of course, am delighted to hear that!
So thanks for the review, and I really appreciate that it was affecting to you.
Date: 12/20/2006 06:20 PM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
You know what I think so far but I'm just going to sum it up here by saying that this is by far my favourie Harry and Hermione are intimate fic.
Author's Response: Thank you so much! Between your kind words herre and on IM, I'm overwhelmed with the generosity of your review!
Date: 10/14/2006 08:37 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
That was so fun to read. It did take me a few sitting. I LOL at Bob being a headmaster. In fact I laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes. Praise Bob. I liked how you took everything out of the universe to be able to only focus on the emotions. That was such a creative idea. This was very imaginative and fun to read. I so liked the friendship between Victor and Ron.
Author's Response: I'm so glad you recognized Mr. Prince-Hedges' other identity! Yes, I had the image, but never thought as far until just now, but he is, indeed, Bob!
I liked how you took everything out of the universe to be able to only focus on the emotions. That was such a creative idea.
I'm so pleased that you said that! When I started writing, I was half-afraid it would come off as self-impressed, self-indulgent, pretentious, "Waiting-for-Godot"-wannabe tripe! So whenever someone mentions it working for them, I appreciate it.
I so liked the friendship between Victor and Ron.
Me, too. They were such a fun team to write.
So thank you, thank you, thank you, for hte very kind review!
Date: 09/15/2006 06:49 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
"I honestly hadn't thought of dealing Viktor a card in that relationship..."Hmm. <smiles evilly>So this bit"[Viktor's] potion-slick hand wrapped around Ron's penis, and slid gently to its end. As it did every day, the organ stood immediately to attention, and as he did every day, Ron blushed. ....Viktor's hands worked their way down…massaging the potion into Ron's buttocks, which were as round and pretty as a girl's…[Oh, baby!] So Viktor reached back again, sank his spread fingers [am I picking up something Freudian here?] into the potion-pot, and leaned forward. Ron groaned as Viktor used the thumb and forefinger of his dry hand to part his buttocks, and then the blunt middle finger, slick and moist with potion, was gently circling his anus. …"At least it doesn't hurt." Almost better if it did, thought Ron. But the sensation was a disturbingly pleasant one, even more so as the blunt finger pressed into him, rubbing the potion around the inside. "Fuck! Fuck!" spat Ron, hating how good that felt. [Oh, relax and enjoy it, Ronniekins!] "You vould prefer to try out for Chudley Cannons vearing diaper?" "Shut it, Krum," replied Ron as Viktor's finger withdrew. I was just imagining all that, right? :D :D :D
Author's Response: Oh, was that in there?
Yeah, I wanted to hint at slashiness generally, as a lot of my readers like it, and I'd started thinking that I wanted to set the parts in play for Trio.
But I really wasn't thinking then that Viktor would be a factor in the Trio. I'm starting to re-think that. I do like my version of Viktor, and he is awfully popular...
Date: 09/15/2006 01:46 AM Title: Harry Potter and the Unwinnable Fight
PS. And did I mention that Vicky's all linked to them and everything? What better setup for a loving foursome can you *get*?


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"Heartbreakingly Good"
This novel was painful to read, as the injustice of it all is so clear, and so is the inevitability. But, like all such narratives, it is also comforting to be reminded that we are not the only ones to encounter injustice, and the model that the warden offers, as far as dealing with a moral question with honor is concerned, is a treasure to behold. Simon Vance is, as usual, a jewel of a narrator. I can't believe I haven't read Trollope until now. I'll certainly be reading more of his works in the future.
"Satisfyingly comprehensive and well edited"
After purchasing, you can download the guide, which explains how this collection was edited. I think they made good choices. The narrator is excellent.
"Perhaps not for young children?"
I have the Howard Pyle version, which is fine - a classic for sure, but a little on the wordy side and a bit dry for my 7-year-old daughter. I thought this shorter version would be more accessible for her. It's exciting - Sean Bean's narration and the soundtrack make it a good listen. But I'm glad I previewed it before playing it for my daughter. I'm no prude, but I don't want my young daughter to hear about the Lancelot, Arthur, Guinevere love triangle just yet. In this version, Lancelot spends the night with Guinevere while she's married to Arthur, and they're accused of being lovers. Also, Arthur and Lancelot both father sons resulting form bizarre encounters with women who trick them. I've read many versions of the Arthurian legend (from Marion Zimmer Bradley, etc.), so it's not like I was unaware of these events and character connections. I just didn't expect them to come up in a version supposedly for young children. I think I'll wait a few years before exposing my daughter to these complex adult themes.
"So glad I (finally) listened to my aunt"
When I was in my early 20s and ready to set off for 2 years as a Peace Corps volunteer in West Africa, I asked friends and family to recommend books I might take along with me, and an aunt who knew me well recommended this one. Unfortunately I didn't bring it along, and I didn't get around to reading it until now, nearly 20 years later. So glad I finally did. What a beautifully written memoir! And what a fine example of an intelligent, thoughtful girl's journey of self-discovery. The descriptions of 1940s life in the Australian outback are vivid and fascinating, and the taste of life in Sydney during the author's adolescent years and young adulthood are equally interesting. Barbara Caruso's narration is superb, as usual.
"Nadia May Makes a Great Classic Greater"
The only thing that prevented me from giving this audiobook 5 stars is that the recording quality is not great - you can hear echos, and that can be annoying. But at least they're echos of Nadia May's excellent narration! I read this novel quite a while ago and thought I'd reread it - so glad I chose the Nadia May narration! She reads the entire novel as though she's as absorbed in the story as possible, which in turn causes the listener to be as absorbed as possible. This is much appreciated when the novel is this long! Of course Tolstoy's writing is excellent, so that, too, draws one in. I still feel the same way I did 15 years ago when I first read this classic: Why isn't the title "Levin" instead? Even with Nadia May's talented voice to animate her, Anna failed to captivate me as a character compared to the self-analytical, soul-searching Levin. Regardless, "Anna Karenina" remains one of my favorite books, and I certainly am glad to have found an audio version to adore as well!
"Great (but pricey) production"
Rob Inglis is the perfect narrator for this story. I just wish the book wasn't sold in six separate parts - very (and unnecessarily) pricey. But I bought and enjoyed all six anyway - the story is too well written, and Rob Inglis does too good a job reading it, to stop after the first one.
"Grim and Compelling"
If you're a Harry Potter fan, then you'll understand when I say that reading "The Casual Vacancy" is like reading a novel set entirely in Little Whinging. If you haven't read the Potter books, suffice it to say that throughout this listen I felt as if I were driving by a tragic car wreck...and just couldn't look away. The characters are real and flawed. The story is dark and raw. The plot twists kept me guessing. I didn't particularly love any of the characters, and yet I was drawn to them, and I wanted to know how things would turn out for them. But there was no relief from the meanness and pettiness of ordinary life in a small town like one finds in the Potter books, no Hagrid or Dumbledore popping in to whisk us away to the world of magic and adventure. Not that I was expecting that. I knew what I was getting myself into. But I couldn't help wishing for such a thing throughout the listen. Still, I resonated with the social commentary, and I found J. K. Rowling's writing to be just as satisfying as I always have. The narration was highly enjoyable. Tom Hollander did a great job of portraying each character with a distinct voice.
"Now I love Sesame Street even more"
I watched as a kid. I had the toy brownstone and plastic characters. Now I'm a teacher and a mother of a bicultural child, and I have my daughter watch "Sesame Street Old School" videos (episodes from the late 60s and 70s - the ones I grew up on). I've long had a vague awareness that Sesame Street was/is a groundbreaking, well-researched show, but now that I've listened to this audiobook I have a much better understanding of what went into creating it. It's heartwarming to hear about how committed the originators were to achieving their vision. Other reviewers have complained about Caroll Spinney's narration, but for me hearing him tell a story that's so close to his own heart made the experience more meaningful.
"satisfying on both counts"
If you want something racy AND literary, this audiobook is satisfying on both counts, due in large part to the excellent narration by Veronika Hyks.
"So worth it"
I tried to read this book once or twice over the years and just couldn't get into it. I have vague recollections of not resonating with Dorothea, and giving up when she considers marrying Casaubon. But, due to Nadia May's perfect reading, I now consider this novel to be one of my favorites. There was something about May's inflection that helped me to really understand and admire Dorothea, not to mention several other characters with whom I had hitherto been unable to sympathize. In an attempt to avoid giving anything away, I will resist the urge to copy and paste the last paragraph of the novel here, but suffice it to say that I think making it to the last paragraph would make reading this tome worthwhile even if it din't contain all of its other myriad charms. I will definitely be reading more George Eliot (and listening to more Nadia May) in the future.
"a list of what you'll find in Volume 3"
His Last Bow (short stories, published 1908-1913, 1917)
The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge
The Adventure of the Cardboard Box*(see below)
The Adventure of the Red Circle
The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans
The Adventure of the Dying Detective
The Adventure of Lady Frances Carfax
The Adventure of the Devil's Foot
His Last Bow (told in the third person)
The Valley of Fear (Serialized novel published 1914-1915)
The Casebook of Sherlock Holmes (short stories, published 1921-1927)
The Adventure of the The Illustrious Client
The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier (Holmes narrates)
The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone (told in the third person)
The Adventure of the Three Gables
The Adventure of the Sussex Vampire
The Adventure of the Three Garridebs
The Problem of Thor Bridge
The Adventure of the Creeping Man
The Adventure of the Lion's Man (Holmes narrates)
The Adventure of the Veiled Lodger
The Adventure of Shoscombe Old Place
The Adventure of the Retired Colourman
*(The Adventure of the Cardboard Box chronologically appears in the canon in The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes - circa 1892-1893 - but, for some reason, appears in this Volume 3 audiobook.)


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I have a NN5 system but is it heavy so I am considering an Ultimate Rx.... I would like to make sure I can use my Tokina 11-16 ...
I have a NN5 system but is it heavy so I am considering an Ultimate Rx.... I would like to make sure I can use my Tokina 11-16 ...
Hans, I don't understand .... I am thinking about 1 row horizontal panoramas... my question is whether the Lens Ring for Tokina 10 to 17mm will fit the Tokina 11-16
There is no specs about the diameter of the ring
When you compare the pics of the two lenses, you will realize that Tokina 11-16 has a greater diameter , filter 77mm. You have to compare the clamping area of the two lenses.
http://www.nodalninja.com/Manuals/R1_QRG.pdf go to tokina 10-17. It seams that the back of the lenses might be similar near lens flange. At least you have to go to see a dealer to test the lens ring on you own lens.
Thanks Nick and Hans.... I did exactly that ..compared the diameters of both lenses and realized that it is not doable. Nick, Are you guys planning a ring for Tokina 11-16? It is widely used for Real State and others to make panoramas because its low distortion...in other words, there are lots of them out there. It is actually kind of hard to find, e.g. both B&H and Adorama don't have it in stock.
Just was in my resellers store to pick up pieces. They had both lenses. As you said, it does not work because of diameter. Plus 11-16 has a movable ring which moves forward and backwards exact in the area where the ring will go to.
Sorry, I have no plan to make a ring for this lens. I don't think it will work well. For a lens ring to work well, the lens has to be compact/ short and has region for proper clamping. Remember that the lens are not designed to work with ring clamp. Ring clamp in fact imposes risk of damage to a lens.
We listen. We try harder.
Thank you guys...at least I know what to expect..


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