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1. Will there be a professional photographer to take my photo as I walk across the stage to receive my degree?
Grad Images will be the official photography company at May Commencement 2015 to take photos of graduates as they cross the stage. Students will be provided a card (when students pick up their cap and gown) to complete which requests current email, address and telephone number. After Commencement, a proof will be mailed and/or emailed along with purchasing information.
2. How long is the ceremony?
Approximately 2 ½ hours
3. Who is the speaker?
John Kofi Agyekum Kufuor [1], President of the Fourth Republic of Ghana.
4. What are the qualifications for walking at Commencement?
Please see Graduation Requirements under "Resources" on the DSU Commencement web site.
5. Can I still walk at Commencement if I still have to take one or two fall, spring or summer classes?
6. Can I decorate my cap (mortarboard)?
No. Commencement at DSU is a dignified occasion.
7. Why I am not allowed to wear heels?
Heels may cause damage to turf of Alumni Stadium.
8. When do I have to arrive at Commencement?
See line up details under Resources/Commencement Day Information [2]on the Commencement web site.
9. When can my family/friends come to Commencement to get a seat?
Commencement will start promptly at 10 a.m. Alumni Stadium will be open for guests as early as 8:30 a.m. on Sunday May 17, 2015.
10. What activities are there for graduating seniors?
Please check the DSU Commencement web site under Resources-- "Commencement Events"
11. Where can I get my cap and gown from?
Cap and gown (regalia) distribution is held in the Bookstore in the MLKSC.
12. If I am in a Fraternity or Sorority, where can I get my Greek sash from?
Stop by the Bookstore in the MLKSC.
13. Is Commencement going to be filmed?
Yes, however, it will not be for sale. Please feel free to ask your family/friends to capture the ceremony. The ceremony will be streamed live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka7sE2j3yt4 [3].
14. How many people can I invite to the Commencement ceremony in the gymnasium?
Tickets are not required for the stadium. An overflow room for the viewing of Commencement will be set up in the 2nd floor parlors of the Martin Luther King, Jr. Student Center. Printed programs will also be available in the parlors.
15. Where do I get my invitations for Commencement from?
Please attend the Grad Fair in the Bookstore or go to www.herffjones.com [4]. Click on "Graduation" then click "College". The DSU Copy Center also sells announcements at a low cost.
16. Where do I get my honor cords from?
Cords will be distributed to honor students during the mandatory Commencement rehearsal on Friday May 15, 2015 at 9 a.m. in Alumni Stadium.
17. Are there tickets for Commencement?
Tickets are NOT required for Alumni Stadium.
18. What are the Commencement Fees for?
Cap/gown, administrative fees and activities
19. What are the parking options for students, family and friends?
There will be plenty of parking on campus available on Sunday May 17, 2015. Prospective graduates as well as their family and friends, can park in any parking lot with the exception of reserved spaces and fire lanes. However, a section of Parking Lot 1 (near the main gate) will be designated for handicapped Commencement parking. Please do not park at area businesses during Commencement. Your vehicle will be subject to ticketing and/or towing. Fines and fees will apply.
Handicapped spaces will continue to be reserved for only handicapped designated cars. Handicapped parking and the wheelchair drop-off points for Commencement parking will be located in Parking Lot 1 and campus-wide. Special needs and handicapped seating will also be designated in Memorial Hall Gymnasium. Parking on the grass anywhere on campus is prohibited. See Campus Map [5].
20. How are Latin honors determined?
Latin honors are based on the previous semester's cumulative GPA.
21. Can I walk in May of 2015 even though I finished in December 2014?
Yes, however, your name will not appear in the May Commencement printed program.


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Raw walnut pate
Prep Time
10 min -
Total Time
10 min -
Shelf Life
4 days in fridge -
5/5 (from 6 ratings)5 -
5 servings
- 1 1/2 cups walnuts (soak for at least half an hour to soften - rinse and discard water)
- 1/8 cup raw soy sauce (nama shoyu)
- 1/3 cup white onion
- 1 medium-sized carrot
- 1 celery stalk
- 1/8 teaspoon sea salt
Recipe Directions
- 1. Throw everything in a food processor (except the soy sauce). (Of course, make sure you soak and rinse your walnuts first. Soaking your walnuts is to soften them. Rinsing your walnuts removes the enzyme inhibitors and will make your final result taste better.)
- 2. Process ingredients in your food processor until it become a smooth, cream-cheese-like consistency.
- 3. Add the soy sauce near the end and then process again. The reason you are adding the soy sauce last is because if you add it at the beginning it might splash all over the place while the walnuts are flying around inside. Best to wait until it's smoother before adding the soy sauce to your mixture.
- 4. Serve this walnut pate on cucumber rounds. The flavour of the cucumber and the pate go together in a heavenly way. Don't know what a cucumber round is? It's easy to figure out! Slice an English cucumber into chunky rounds that resemble crackers. Spread the walnut pate mixture on top. Tadah!
The Rawtarian's Thoughts
By The RawtarianOK, you're coming home for dinner. What are you going to eat?? Have a batch of this raw walnut pate recipe on hand and your tastebuds will thank you. Smooth and salty, it tastes divine paired with cucumber rounds.
It has a very savory flavor. It keeps in the fridge very well--if this pate lasts long enough!
The cucumber combination also makes a perfect appetizer, but I prefer to have a huge plate of cucumber cracker rounds for dinner!
PS: The soy sauce gives this raw recipe its taste so do not attempt to make this recipe without the soy sauce.
Nutrition Facts
- This recipe is very low in Carbohydrates.
- This recipe is low in Sodium.
- This recipe is a noteworthy source of Protein, Dietary Fiber, Vitamin B6, and Vitamin A.
Amounts per 74 g (3 oz) suggested serving
Name | Amount | % Daily |
Calories | 244 | 10 % |
Protein | 6 g | 11 % |
Fat | 23 g | 29 % |
Carbohydrates | 8 g | 2 % |
Dietary Fiber | 3 g | 10 % |
Sugars | 2.2 g | |
Calcium | 47 mg | 5 % |
Iron | 1.2 mg | 9 % |
Sodium | 281 mg | 12 % |
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This stuff is my crack! I'm serious. I'm eating it right now and can't stop. I need an intervention someone please help lol. I absolutely love love love this stuff . I never thought of using it in a lettuce wrap before so thanks for the great idea. I'll have to try that the next time I make a batch because this batch is going...going...GONE!
I'm so sad now :(
Absolutely delightfully nutritious and delicious :) Thank you!
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Seriously amazing with cucumbers! I will make again in the very near future :) Thank you!
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So addicting! I have been really loving your recipes. Super easy to make and even easier clean up as I'm only using a blender. I'm not an official vegan/raw/vegetarian but I do take my eating very seriously due to a chronic illness. Thank you!
Can I substitute walnuts for pecans?
Just tried the pate. Delicious. And very filling. A big item for me. I thought it needed more Nama shoyu. Easy enough to mix in.
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Raw walnut pate
Simply delicious. I can't wait to try Suzanne's Idea with the lettuce wrap for lunch tomorrow.
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Raw walnut pate
I made this tonight and served it with cucumber slices. Delicious!
This is soooooooo good! And easy to make!
This stuff is my crack! I'm serious. I'm eating it right now and can't stop. I need an intervention someone please help lol. I absolutely love love love this stuff . I never thought of using it in a lettuce wrap before so thanks for the great idea. I'll have to try that the next time I make a batch because this batch is going...going...GONE!
I'm so sad now :(
This walnut pate is delicious. I used coconut amines as I cannot have soy products and I am sure that it is just as good as the original recipe. I can't stop eating it! Thanks for such great recipes.
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So good as-is..but THEN I added liquid smoke. Seriously... Insanely good.
Love your site btw. Have been a lurker for a while. Definitely appreciate everything you do.
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Deeeelish. I just made wraps featuring this as a filling with large mustard green leaves and stuffed with enoki mushroom, julienne cucumber and baby spinach. Fantastic!
I can't wait to try this. I hope it will taste good using coconut amines rather than the nama shoyu as I cannot have soy products. I have tried several of your recipes and they are all amazing!
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Italy is bankrupt in all but legal form. Its government debt is garbage; its banks insolvent. They have finally run out of other peoples' money. Their socialist politicians will now have to clean up the mess they made with their lies.
@BRIGHT TONY.We really know were we are going:Monti,the champion of Democracy we have non-elected,together with Draghi,said recently that we shall be free of choosing what the so called"europe" has already decided.La caricatura della democrazia:not a strange combination that the PD is so at ease with the incoming false elections.Let's yell "BERLUSCONI"while the conspiracy shows his true colours.To day the CORRIERE writes that sooner or later somebody stranger will put his hands over our banks.We shall save to help our enemies,and like those chicken of PROMESSI SPOSI,we shall quarrel among us while some gangster is going to strangle us.
OK, Stefano, I will read this article on Corriere della Sera.
We shall save to help our enemies,..."
Come on, how have we come to such a situation? Say, who did all this economic havoc? Who are the enemies?
Italians, at political election, never choose their government, we just elect our MP's. If we look at chickens, yeah, a lot of people, amid us, have always been trying to deal with their own interest respectless of any rule, looking for just their own privilege.
Worst of all, a lot of them have been boasting this attitude, saying they had "important friends", they knew "relevant people" who had a job in a public department, so on. Yes, it was not just trying to fool anybody else, they were even proud on that. Berlusconi, together with other people of course, Umberto the Boozer, for example, has been this culture's and these people's real face. Now we are in shambles; you would be right if you said that's not Berlusconi's fault only. It's mainly his followers', those citizens have been backing him as their protecting lord, on their wicked business.
Blame it on Berlusconi, blame it mainly on those people who still would think that what he did was smart, those who are always convinced that respecting law is foolish.
To day the CORRIERE writes that sooner or later somebody stranger will put his hands over our banks...."
That wouldn't indeed let me be astonished anyhow. It's no news.
At any business level, in any kind of it, Italian entrepreneurs have been shortsighted and just looking after their own greed, respectless of anything else and of anybody. No news prestigious Italian brands, firms, even companies, may be taken over by foreign subjects. Most Italian businesspeople have also often and long lacked respect toward customers as well. If a customer was unsatisfied on products or service, "they just could look for what they wished, somewhere else". Now business is lagging, are a good deal of these people falling into trouble? They don't deserve anything else. That's true also about bankers. Come on, blaming trouble on somebody else is, as ever, ridiculous and undignifying.
Berlusconi shall go away, no democratic and civil progress can however be expected. He is just one among the many outcomes, amid people whose civil culture is...medieval. No reason to speak about first, second or any republic: most citizens' mind is on no republic. When they speak about politics, they say "Our rulers..." or "The government..." as if they were speaking about a lord, at the time of lordships and princehoods, late Middle Ages or early Renaissance. Besides saying, once more, that when they vote they never know what they are actually doing, on anything they could avoid just with the own behaviour, they blame the governament - any government - on what goes wrong. They are always ready to justify themselves on any little wrong behaviour of their own, just saying "Why should I....". Come on, dear country fellows, a good deal of you doesn't let me be proud of our country, the one you ruined together.
Italy needs to GET OUT THE EUROZONE NOW.WE built the FIFTH economy in the world after a lost war,using the LIRA.Please,do not believe to the paid defamers painting our country as the kingdom of inefficiency and bribery.They notoriously belong to specialized agencies.Those agencies are emisaries of governments that enforced us the Euro to deprive us of our economical strenght.They counted on a small number of traitors paid by those government to push the Country in the snake nest of Eurozone.All the troubles of Italy are a gift of "Europe".Bribery,poltical turmoil?It lasts since the year 1000,but didn't deny us the Rinascimento.Risorgimento and the progress we obtained in the second postwar era.We know how to sail in that troubled sea,we don't know how to sail,when our enemies are at the helm
I once wrote a comment suggesting the Economist was obsessed with painting Berlusconi as negatively as they dared. It was removed.
They were in a litigation with Berlusconi.
Maybe it could be mentioned at the end of the article "our views might be biased" :D
However I still couldn't agree more with most of what the say about him.
Removing my comment as objectionable is what surprised and angered me. I suppose they can do as they please in that category but it shows a mind set I don't care for.
Berlusconi? --he is a colorful sort of crook-- I also understand their judiciary is not like ours (US UK) it is highly political and mischievous.
The Economist used to be so much better 30 years ago. You know what I mean if you read it then.
I haven't had the chance to read your comment but if it didn't contain no personal offense -and I have no reason to believe it had- I can understand how you felt and I totally sympathize and agree with you.
A pro-market economy publication and a liberal-leaning one like The Economist is should give the example on how to be liberal also in different fields than economics.
Freedom of speech and critic is obviously one of those.
My censored comment was some months ago... it was a little sardonic but not offensive; who ever wrote that Burlosconi article was very thin skinned.
The Economist of 30 years ago (prior to them being bought out by Pearson Communications) was extremely free market liberal and politically conservative with liberal social values. It was also geared to a more sophisticated audience. You can only appreciate this change by reading some some articles prior to about 1986 or so..
They now pander to a more diverse mass readership and gear articles to both sides of the political spectrum.
Old long time readers like myself miss their old consistency.
That Berlusconi was a disaster for Italy shouldn't come as news to anyone. Monti, however, is often showered with praise. And in all fairness, he did push through some much-needed reforms. However, this devout anti-Keynesian has neglected to offset his policies with short-run stimulus measures, quite the contrary in fact, and it really shows. Unemployment has leaped above 10% (from 8.4% in 2010-2011), and The Economist's growth forecasts show only minuses (in particular, a 2.4% contraction for 2012). So let's be real about this: Monti, Juncker and all the other out-of-touch Euro elites should stop being such know-it-alls and contend that their policy ideas are disastrous. Pointing to a nutcase like Berlusconi to justify your actions is about the weakest excuse in the book.
Italy doesn't need austerity, it needs to liberalize its employment laws. That alone would bump gdp up several points. Then they could slowly bring their finances back in line with a sustainable reality.
Your handful of sentences contains more wisdom than hours of policy speeches by the EU's quote-on-quote respectable establishment.
Why all this talk about republic - is not Berlusconi a king already?
I actually hope that Italy will subscribe to the ECB's and submit to an externally moniotred EU reform programme.
That would be good for the Country and I don't see as anything good for the Country -and for the people- can be shameful.
The only shameful thing is to persevere with the least good option when there's a better alternative.
Sorry,but what is "PDL"?
PDL means 'Popolo - della - Libertà', 'The People - of - Freedom'
Republics are hideous ...
Long live the King - Vive le Roi!!!!!
To Cavehomme. I don't ignore it and I agree with you that Berlusconi is not a good guy. But again, he's no dictator. He was elected not because italian right electorate is dumb (even if in the end it is so), but because left parties are too smart to have a "normal" political conduct and prefer the kamikaze missions. Their tactic has been: loosing the election, even after they won it, and then attacking Mr B. with every possible mean at home and abroad. The fact that they succeded in doing this last thing demonstrate that the media are not in the exclusive control of Mr. Berlusconi.
As a business-man Berlusconi is not much different from Mitt Romney. The only difference is that italian law is much more strict and heavy against business and that italian judges are totally free (for ex. in France they are subject to the governement). Or do you think that Romney has not any trust at the caymans with black-gray money?
For the rest Berlusconi is more similar to Strauss Khan...
I agree that Berlusconi is not a dictator, but you can't state that 'judges are totally free'. In Italy, everytime a judge tries to inquire some high-located political figure, he starts to be attacked by every TV, because they are all owned or controlled by Berlusconi. I remember a judge, Raimondo Mesiano, who condamned Mr. Berlusconi, and was followed by his worst channel TV-news: the journalist condamned Mesiano's socks color and 'strange behaviours'. In these months you can see what you can read about Ingroia, the judge who dares to challenge the President Giorgio Napolitano.
In Italy, everytime the judges inquire on Berlusconi or any of his comrades, they are called 'communists', 'red judges'. Berlusconi said:'The judges are sick, a man deviation, only a psicologically-disturbed man can deside to be a judge.'
At last, about 'italian law heavy against business': our law doesn't send in jail those firms wich lie about their balancies to the Tax Agency!
our judges (thanks god) are free and independent. in many other european countries it's not so. media in other countries are much "milder" than the italian ones. in france tangentopoli (both from the side of the judges and from the side of the newspaper) would have been impossible.
it' s a matter of fact the in usa (where the jugdes at the state level are elected and are political men!) many things, that are illegal in italy, are either legal or not prosecuted.
i don't like berlusconi, but if you ever watched fox news, you know that there are much worst things on the political/media ground.
but of course in italy nobody cares and the newspapers are divided between the ones who say that we are in the disaster (since many years) and the ones who say that nothing's happening.
by the way ingroia is under scrutiny from csm; he has done good things, but a judge should not do politics.
Fear not, the unelected banker will put Italy under the stewardship of the troika.
Sorry Optimal_R, you forgot to end the sentence.
"Fear not, the unelected banker will put Italy under the stewardship of the troika if Italy wants to remain in the Euro zone. Otherwise it's "Arrivederci Euro, ciao Lira."
Never the less Italians are not alone to suffer in silence. Since Italian model is replicated in India too, Indians are suffering rather very badly, in comparison to better facilities being made available to the Italians as made out in this post "
wikipedia Nov 4th, 17:55 " but, Indians are simply fleeced being from all around.
Why does TE not allow posters to delete their posts that end up in the wrong place?!
I believe it says a lot for Italy's problems, or simply the Italian mix of TE bloggersphere that there is so much support for one of the,if not the truly most incompetant, corrupt people to make it to a European high office in the last 20-30 years.
He turned a country with issues into a laughing stock for the rest of the world with his repeated changes to the law to keep him out of jail, his pronouncments and his partying.
To those sour anti-italian critics: for sure NOW Italy has more than one problem. But most of them are due to the wrong Eu design. As for the rest, Italy has many things that could do better, but there already are many fields in wich we do better: health care and low private debt; an economy that is not based on scammy financial services; a very good quality of life and very cheap services (not only hospitals, but also universities; good and fresh food at low prices). However one of our best qualities is not having such a stinking, finger-pointing nationalism as the english papers (and, I assume, many of the english people). You can try harder, but I dont think that attacking other countries (before the crisis Germany was the sick man of Europe; France is always despicable; even the Scandinavians) will give you back the Empire...
True, but you are ignoring the point that Berlusconi is a crook who still controls most of the Italian media and influences people to do what he wants. Having said that, perhaps he is no worse than Murdoch and other media owners who are pushing the agenda of other countries rather than their own.
This article is in line with the well known opinion on Berlusconi by The Economist. It is interesting to note that we had a lot of comments on Berlusconi by The Economist while B. was in power (all of them very negatives ). All italian problems were linked to the B. bad administration. From the moment B. left power and kept itself in silence, and up to now no more articles From The Economist on italian problems as if such problems were under qick solution with the new Governament. Now as soon as B. pronaunced a speech The Economist is showing again interest on Italy. Well I can assure The Economist that problems here are not solved but getting bigger and bigger ( italian debt, italian unimployement, improved taxation , reduced services , bigger inflation etc. ). For sure it is a legacy of B. but since everything is still going from bad to worse I was expecting articles fron The economist giving analysis and reasons on this subject. From lack of your analysis I only understand that you are only interested in tracking B. and you are really not interested in italian problems.
Hope to see soon your analysis.
Best regards
Olac, I totally agree with your assessment. Your comment " From lack of your analysis I only understand that you are only interested in tracking B. and you are really not interested in italian problems." is quite correct; however, it could also read "From lack of your analysis I only understand that you are only interested in tracking B. and only write about Italy when you receive the subjective info from the Carlo de Benedetti Group since you don't do your own research on Italy."
20 years of nothing, daily public expenditure doubled during Berlusconi's government, lack of reforms , 20 years wasted just to solve his judiciary problems. What do they have to say? Where do you see inflation in Italy? It's true that if we wanted to avoid nowdays troubles, we should act 10/15 years ago , when B. was in charge he did "Leggi Finanziarie" of just 4/5 bln,what do they have to say? Improved taxation is due to the huge amount of fiscal avoidance, B. never faced these problems, he just did "condoni", when Visco and Padoaschioppa tried to struggle against fiscal avoidance they were defined "succhiasangue" . The Italian's troubles are nothing different from what you are saying you know why we've carried all these problems 'till now. In the middle of the crsis B. doesn't care to suggest some policy advice (Did he ever do it ?),to propose some reform, he just wants to reform justice to avoid jail, this is his problems, we have other problems right now , we know, they know, you know....so what do they have to say??
20 years of nothing
Berlusconi I (1 year) + Berlusconi II (5 years) + Berlusconi III (3 years) = 9 years. Who was in charge during the rest of the 20 years? I totally agree that these 20 years were wasted, but this can't be blamed on Berlusuconi. In fact the years before Italy's entry into the Euro were wasted and squandered by Romani Prodi and friends.
You write about fiscal avoidance in Italy. Question: Why is there and has there historically been so much fiscal avoidance in Italy, more so than in any other European country? Why is it that whole banking systems in Monte Carlo and Lugano (just to name two jurisdictions) thriving on Italian money? My answer to this question: No one in Italy had and has any confidence in the system. A system (constitution) that was founded by dogmatic socialists after WWII and even today is nurtured by dogmatic socialists (with the emphasis on dogmatic). Your answer please….
You can't deny that Berlusconi wanted to liberalize the economy in general and the labour market in particular (read about Prof. Marco Biagi's murder). You can't deny that most of Monti's reforms were already proposed by Forza Italia during the 90'ies. For this Berlusconi was savagely attacked by the 'magistratura' who did this purely out of political motivation, because Berlusconi wanted to change the system, their system. A scandalous abuse of the Trias politica which is now costing Italy dearly -- and the rest of Europe I may add.
That Berlusconi in his defense against this coordinated institutional onslaught abused almost all of his powers is known. That he used his money to bribe god and everyone else, I have no doubt. In fact this is old news and wasted rhetoric. The question remains, who is going to continue liberalizing the Italian economy after Monti is gone? Who is going to privatize the INPS, really(!) privatize Italian banks, or AlItalia just to name a few. Who is going to take Italy to a level where they can become competitive in a global economy that is definitely not run by sympathizers of the PD.
What Italy needs is some amalgamation between Beppe Grillo and Sergio Marchionne. This person, once in power, could order to nationalize all the assets of the politicians who have been robbing Italian citizens for decades. How is that for a start?
No, I'm sorry. You are very wrong.
1) "Prodi and friends" did not waste their time - Prodi's two governments, Giuliano Amato's two governments, Lamberto Dini's government (supported by the Left) and D'Alema's government all achieved budget consolidation/declining deficits.
Pensions were reformed (which is why we are NOT Greece today) much or most of Italian state industry was privatised, services improved (the post office actually started doing its job for the first time in decades) Mafia leaders were arrested, tax evasion was fought consistently, defence budgets were increased and the Carabinieri were promoted to a fully independent arm, equal to the other services, emergencies were managed abroad in such places as Lebanon and Kosovo (the war/intervention in 1999 could not have happened without Italian logistical and political support), French troops were put under Italian command (in Albania) for the first time ever, close military treaties of cooperation were signed with former enemies/victims of Italian fascism (Slovenia), Italy was accepted into the Schengen Accords, important liberalisations were passed, an important military treaty of alliance was signed with Israel for the first time ever...
there was a reason Romano Prodi was so strongly supported by the rest of Europe to become President of the European Commission: he was judged by most European leaders to have accomplished miracles in Italy.
Most of Monti's reforms were completely blocked by Berlusconi's government. What planet are you living on? Berlusconi had the most stable, unassailable and largest parliamentary majority any prime minister has ever enjoyed in republican Italy. He did almost nothing to reform our country with that majority.
I like Grillo, but Italy does not need someone advocating we default - and to hell with French investments in our country.
Furthermore, Obama hired Marchionne to bring small Italian engines to America; instead, he is bringing big American engines to Italy (more profits). That is a disaster. Without a drop of petroleum anywhere under our soil, this country has never been able to afford big American cars. Entire generations of Italians, including virtually everyone at FIAT before Marchionne, understood this completely.
Senator Agnelli very famously used to take delivery of a new FIAT Panda, the company's smallest car, every year. It certainly wasn't because he intended to drive the car; he understood the importance of small engines to FIAT's and Italy's fortunes.
Marchionne is the most hated man in Italy - and rightfully so. His pettiness, greed and arrogance are costing our country dearly. (Although I think the same could also be said of Camusso).
What Italy needs is an amalgamation of Sandro Pertini, Enrico Berlinguer and Luigi Einaudi (former journalist for the Economist).
Yes reforms took place under 'Il Professore,' i.e. pens were pushed, papers were shuffled. The INPS is still what it is and will be time bomb ticking away, but that's another can of worms. Anyway drumming up all kinds of irrelevant facts to the current economic situation doesn't help us at all. Reforms haven't taken place even near the way they were done in northern europe; this is the real problem.
Yes, the Italian soldiers have done an excellent job and all honor goes to them!
The fact though that French soldiers fought under Italian supervision in Albania -- frankly my dear friend, the financial markets don't give a damn.
Read the last paragraph of Charlemagne's article. Did you read it? Well, then read it again…and again. It's the only interesting part of the article which could cover a whole separate issue of The Economist as far as I'm concerned. No, let me rephrase that, … as far as the world is concerned.
Two people on this blog, including yourself, told us about the high private (liquid?) savings in Italy. Great! That solves one of Charlemagne's questions. Then there is no need for Italy to trigger the European Central Bank's offer to help push down Italy's borrowing costs by applying for a euro-zone bail-out and submitting to an externally monitored EU reform programme. You can pay for it yourself; that is good news! Big smiles in northern Europe; markets going through the roof; the spread at 10bp's; champagne corks popping at the ECB…
Reality is different. It is time for someone to 'rattle-and-shake' the Italian political scene and most of all, continues to change the economic setting. What Italy needs is a Margaret Thatcher or Ronald Reagan. Someone like Marchionne would be an excellent choice. Oh, did you say he is the most hated man in Italy right now? Hm…sets one thinking. Everyone who wants to change the system is hated here. First Berlusconi, now it is Marchionne. Everyone telling the Italians to change the system is hated; The Germans, the financial markets, ECB, the British; who's next?
Listen my friend, we are watching. The whole (financial)world is watching and will keep tabs on Italy. We'll all await and observe the Italian elections next year. Then we'll watch the actions that will be taken by the new Executive of La Repubblica italiana. And this time no ducking & diving, or playing the blame game.
1) First of all, the Dutch and the Germans are lying about their contingent and off-balance sheet liabilities. Particularly with regard to pension expenses.
Far from being a ticking time bomb, the Italian pension expense WOULD right itself in time, given that reforms have already annihilated future pensions. The problem is not a time bomb - it is NOW. The question is whether or not we will arrive intact to 2020, etc. when the pension expense will begin dropping. This is not the case in northern Europe and the time bomb is there, not here.
2) Italy has not applied for a Euro-zone bailout and will not apply for a Euro-zone bailout. No such money exists, as our debt is the world's third or fourth largest.
On the other hand, requesting that a certain amount of the money WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECB AND BAILOUT FUNDS be used also to purchase a few of our bonds, does not constitute a bailout. In any case, that point is probably academic now, as yields have dropped to acceptable levels.
3) Mine are not irrelevant facts. Before the late 90's French forces had NEVER served under Italian command; American forces still have never served under us, so this was an important (if modest) vote of confidence - and that did not happen under Berlusconi.
4) Nobody, least of all Italy, "needs/needed" Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher. Romano Prodi privatised what he could - 60 billion euros worth of state holdings- from 1996-98 Italy led the world in privatisations. Berlusconi interrupted that. You should be a little less ideological in your opinions - Italy is an upside-down country, thanks to the presence of the Vatican. The Right has never privatised here - the Left has.
5) No, Marchionne would not be an excellent choice. Not even to lead Italian FIAT (American Chrysler yes). He has led FIAT for 10 years - the Chrysler operation was brilliant, but his administration of FIAT/Lancia/Alfa Romeo has been less than brilliant.
I hope the Agnelli family steps in soon to relieve him of his reponsibilities for Italian FIAT. He is wearing too many hats anyway. By now his very presence is costing the company sales in Italy and probably elsewhere in Europe.
6) I don't care who is watching. WE ARE WATCHING THE NETHERLANDS: which is unable to achieve a budget deficit under Maastricht's 3% limit any time over the next few years, which is drowning in a sea of private debt (such that total debt public and private in the Netherlands is greater than in Italy - and without our private savings).
Dutch contributions to Europe are also largely an illusion, due to the transshipments taxes. Much of the money flowing to Brussels from the Netherlands never was in the pockets of Dutch taxpayers anyway.
7) If Italy's role in the postwar world had depended upon that little bicycle monarchy in the north called the Low Countries, we would never have achieved anything.
Our peers are certainly not the little Dutch. They are our fellow G7 countries - France and the US in particular. Increasingly investment in Italy derives from the Arab world. Our exports are sold evenly throughout the world, such that we even have a trade surplus currently with Japan (ha!) In fact, Italy has a trade surplus with all the G7 countries except Germany, where our trade deficit has evaporated this year and is rapidly heading in our favour. Can the Netherlands say the same?
Finally, I remind you that Italian banks have so far over the last 5 years accepted 6.1 billion in lent capital from the Treasury. How much have Dutch banks required in bailout monies? I read in lent capital and state guaranties, some 150 billion. Who are you to judge? "Physician Heal Thyself".
p.s. Italian savings are mostly in bricks and mortar (55%) and therefore no, are not very liquid, especially these days. On the other hand, on the other side of this crisis the consolidation will be very rapid (once a normal lending and real estate market is restored). Of course, that is the point of German policy - to keep our market off balance. Germany profits from the misery of others. The Dutch are jealous and would like to participate in this game, but are unable.
Some of your remarks were completely off-topic and I will respond to these only once.
About the Dutch off-balance sheet liabilities with regard to pension expenses. It may come as a surprise to you, but two Dutch state pension funds feature among the top ten largest pension funds in the world with a net worth of around €360 billion, the largest fund stands just below Japan and Norway, the second behind South Korea, the US and Canada. The reason why the assets are off-balance sheet is because the assets in these funds belong to the people who put their savings in there, not to the Dutch government. Excuse me for having some sense of what is mine or thine.
Your assessment that Italy "…will not apply for a Euro-zone bailout," is great news indeed. Thank you, we will keep you to this so don't come knocking at our doors in 2013, or 14… And please call Charlemagne to pass this information on to him, because he didn't know that when he was writing his article Bribesville II. Tell him "…that point is probably academic now, …" Like me he will be mashed and ashamed for not having understood this.
You're absolutely right about The Netherlands having difficulties meeting the 3% budget deficit norm. And yes financial markets, including Milan, are watching The Netherlands like any other country as they should.
This 3% problem is going to be addressed by the Dutch government, but let me just point out two facts that make this a little less topical than the situation in Italy.
- First: Government Debt to GDP hovers around 65% (realistic). Compare this to Italy's 127%(is much higher; should be investigated by The Economist).
- Second: Yesterday a new government was formed in The Netherlands that consist of two coalition partners, the liberal VVD and the socialist PvdA. They both have set their bickering and petty-party-selfish-political interests aside in order to govern in the best interest of the nation and tackle the issues surrounding this whole mess around the Euro zone. If the PD and the PDL would ever come together to govern Italy in the interest of the Italian people, drop me a note.
Please read up on what economists really mean by privatizing government assets. It doesn't mean flocking some shares on the Milan stock exchange while at the same time keeping up to 25% control. Yes, some work was done, but for the rest this whole privatizing exercise by Prodi was one of the many cosmetic changes being done by Italy in its effort to enter the euro zone. And this is exactly what the markets are telling us today. Markets are efficient and they are proofing my point. They have set the spread between the Dutch government bond and the Bund at around 20. The spread between the BTP and the Bund is around 350. Why the difference? Because the markets, e.g. economists, portfolio managers, asset allocators, journalist and anyone else in the world don't agree with your arguments. Perhaps you should call them and tell them they are as stupid as me who is all wrong and don't get it.
On Bloomberg today (on the fact that Italy has rejected the Bad Bank construction) Nicholas Spiro, managing director of London-based Spiro Sovereign Strategy said: "While Italian sovereign debt is a much safer asset class than a year ago, Italy is by no means out the woods and is seeking to differentiate itself favourably from Spain as much as possible."
You should definitely give him a call as well, because he doesn't understand it either.
I'm not commenting on your other off-topic remarks. Some were funny, others mind boggling. The Italians, in the person of Berlusconi, were summoned to Frankfurt by the then ECB president Jean-Claude Trichet last year to receive a letter with a clear message, "Here is your homework. Now go and do it, asap!" Oops, Trichet is French. Perhaps the Italian army fired him when he was serving his duty in Albania. He was probably angry at that time, and in your eyes wrong of course.
You got a lot of phoning to do. Tell me when you start so I can short the Bund/Dutch gov. bonds and long BTP.
@GUEST JOSAMS.Don't teach me what a communist country is:i lived 14 years in Czekoslovakia ,since 79 to 93 and i tell you that you cannot even dare to make such assessments.You don't know what you say.To continue
1) HIGH HIDDEN UNEMPLOYMENT.The truth is the contrary:people works black:the TE report of a fall of 6% GDP in 2008 was false:the ecomony GREW thanks to the black,in that year
2)SCANDALOUS SERVICE LEVEL?The second best medical service in the world(source OMS,UNITED NATIONS),a network of quick trains between the main cities,6000 km of freeways.
3)20 millions of workers:all hired with the Push?Please,keep from kidding
4,5)The most free media and TV network in the world:the communists are trying to pollute them and kill MEDIASET,just for this reason
6)True,indeed.When i read TE,on Afghan issues for example,i find something worse
7)In USA corruption is legalized:the Congress corridors are crowded with pushers of any lobby
8) i wrote Story instead History .It's a printing mistake
9)The high level of public debt?I just demonstrated the contrary.The high level of debt an invention of bad faith or incompetence of our enemies
10)The country is virtually bankrupt with personal assets totalizing 3700 billions?The comics are on,folks!.
12)unhealthy nationalism?It is true that the german and english hooligans are used to visit Europe to terorize the local folks to show racial superiority.They lose the football matches and in some case they get unforgettable lesson by our police.
You visited a different country believing to be in Italy.My guess is that you crossed the balnlieues of France or the ethnic suburbs of London,Liverpool,Manchester.Or Kreuzberg in BErlin.
Not just the football hooligans that get an unforgettable lesson from your police:
OK, you beat me on this one; I never lived in those countries, but only visited them. In any case, it explains why you are so happy in Italy.
Re point 1, 2 and 3.
Thanks for partly making my point. I was not only talking about the black labour market, but more about the, for example, 30% employees of AlItalia that should already have been fired decades ago. I'm talking about these unproductive civil servants. I'm talking about the lack of productivity in the factories and the uncompetitiveness (something Fiat CEO Marchionne is finally addressing). I'm talking about the labour strikes, the delayed flights in virtually every bloody airport in Italy, the inadequate service at the post office, the plain rude treatment of taxi passengers, the inadequate trained (and sometimes even plain stupid) Carabinieri and Polizia Stradale. I'm not only talking about the rubbish on the street, or the total black out of the whole (I repeat whole) of Italy ten years ago because a tree fell on a power line in Switzerland (Yeah, Hollywood wouldn't even come up with this one).
C'mon get real; everyone who ever visited Italy doesn't come back with the stunning feeling that everything runs smoothly, but more with a feeling like, "the pasta was nice, but the waiters were rude and thanks for ripping me off."
Re 4,5.
Ask Berlusconi what he thinks about the RAI.
Re 7.
You made my point
Re 9 and 10
Of course. The financial markets are all wrong. Everyone is wrong except the Italians. Bad financial markets. Man, be glad they don't know what's really cooking here, otherwise the spread between the Bund and BTP would already have been standing at 800.
Re 12.
I take issue with these statements, but again thanks for making my point.
Hope you're neither from the US or the UK to indulge in such generalizations. Maybe if you're from Sweden you'll look credible.
)The Romney recipe for ALITALIA?Those who don't work 23 hours a day pure profligators or parasites?The lack of productivity of the only nation of Europe challenging the germans on the international markets with an export in 2011 bigger than in 2006?The ignorant carabinieri?Ever met the OKLAHOMA POLICE?You meet them and you are in the EASY RAIDER movie.The arrogant waiters?You get robbed in any restaurant in the States when you pay cash and get change:they think that we are so idiot that we confuse a one $ bill with a 10 $bill.rubbish on the streets?Even visited New Orleans by Sunday morning or Saturday night?You won't visit Italy anymore?Go to the french banlieue,we shall survive your absence.
You seem to be using the word "generalization" in some sense I don't understand. I gave a link to one very specific legally certified example of Italian police brutality - and, of course, as you know, there were many others too.
Why would my coming from the UK or US invalidate my comment? Have I defended their police forces? Have I compared them favourably with the Italian police? No. My remark was made in the context of the implausibly triumphalistic tones of Mr Bianchi in speaking about seemingly every aspect of his country. None of what he wrote made much sense, but to actually speak approvingly about the violent methods of his country's police would have seemed distasteful, even without the specific case I wanted to remind him of.
Can I suggest you think more carefully about the logic of your own comment? This is a thread about the situation in Italy, and if any critical remark about the country is going to be met with an attempt to discredit it simply on the grounds of the presumed nationality of the person making the comment, then hardly anyone will be allowed to say anything.
Point taken, I obviously misunderstood the tone of your comment, which resembled so closely many other episodes of sarcastic superiority from many commentators d'outre manche when commenting on a rather average (but not particularly outstanding, either positively or negatively) national police force in Italy (or the European South in general, which for some UK citizens would include France).
Since from the nonsense of Mr. Bianchi you just bothered to highlight a rather unimportant detail linked to a British citizen, it looked as if you had some specific stance on Italian police, as opposed to... what should be, supposedly, the norm?
Apologies anyways.
As guest-iosasms notes, there should be more comprehensive coverage of the deep political rifts within Italy.
An article from Foreign Affairs 9 months ago gave a great overview of the issue. It notes that "corruption is still rife, parliamentary institutions are still slow and inefficient, and the electoral laws are still crafted to protect incumbents." More importantly, the utter political dysfunction of Italy means that the moment Super Mario Monti leaves, Italy may revert to business as usual.
Beppe Grillo and his supporters are a symptom of the corrupt and broken parties in Italy. These parties will have to present a new centrist face and take bolder moves against corruption and the entrenched status quo.
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Hundreds of Educators Enroll in CWP ClassClasses offered by State Sen. Katrina Shealy well received
COLUMBIA, S.C. (WOLO) -- Hundreds of educators in the Midlands are enrolling in free Concealed Weapon Permit classes being offered by Republican State Senator, Katrina Shealy. The freshman senator supports legislation to allow concealed weapons in schools.
SLED Certified CWP Instructor, Patrick Nolan, who will teach the class, says he prepared for one group. However, the response has been so overwhelming, additional classes will be added. He says studies show incidents of murder are much lower when law-abiding citizens are allowed to use their concealed weapons if necessary. He says the same is true for violence in schools. "In light of the tremendous tragedy at Sandy Hook, it is imperative we do all we can to keep our children safe and our schools secure," said Shealy. "These CWP classes will go a long way in ensuring good, law-abiding educators are competent, safe, and well-instructed in the legal carrying and use of firearms." The first classroom sessions are scheduled for 5:00pm - 10:00pm on Tuesday, February 12, and Thursday, February 14. They will be held at Shealy & Sons Electric, 517 Spring St., West Columbia. The shooting proficiency test will be scheduled subsequently at Mid Carolina Rifle Club. Enrollment for the first class is limited. Contact Patrick Nolan at 803-318-1400 for more information, or email him at firstname.lastname@example.com. You have indicated this comment should be removed.said on Friday, Feb 1 at 1:55 PM Just read it was free, guess I was wrong. Inappropriate? Alert Us! said on Friday, Feb 1 at 12:55 PM Does Shealy and Sons Electric receive any payment for hosting the training? Because Sen. Shealy's husband owns Shealy and Sons and she is pushing for the training. I may be wrong though. Inappropriate? Alert Us! Add a commentMost Popular |
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