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Jah Wobble
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Jah Wobble in 2005
Background information | |
Birth name | John Joseph Wardle |
Born | Stepney, London, England |
11 August 1958
Genres | Post-punk, experimental rock, dub, world, alternative rock, electronica |
Occupation(s) | Musician |
Instruments | Bass guitar, vocals, keyboards, drums |
Years active | 1978–1984, 1986–present |
Labels | 30 Hertz, Island |
Associated acts | Public Image Ltd, The Human Condition, Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart, The Damage Manual, Chinese Dub Orchestra |
Website | 30hertzRecords |
Notable instruments | |
Ovation Magnum bass,[1] Fender Precision Bass,[2] Yamaha BB[3] |
John Joseph Wardle (born Public Image Ltd (PiL) in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but left the band after two albums. Following his departure from PiL, he went on to a successful solo career, continuing to the present. In 2009, he published his autobiography, Memoirs of a Geezer. In 2012, he reunited with fellow PiL guitarist Keith Levene for Metal Box In Dub and the album Yin & Yang. Since 2013 he has been one of the featured pundits on Sunday morning's The Virtual Jukebox segment of BBC Radio 5 Live's Up All Night with Dotun Adebayo.
11 August 1958), known by the stage name Jah Wobble, is an English bass guitarist, singer, poet and composer. He became known to a wider audience as the original bass player inContents
Early life[edit]
Wardle was born in Stepney, East London,[4] His father, Harry Eugene Wardle, was a tea clerk with the East India Company. and later in life worked as a postman,[5] while his mother, Kathleen Bridget (née Fitzgibbon), was a school and County Hall secretary.[6] Wobble grew up with his family in Whitechapel's Clichy Estate in London's East End. He is a long-time friend of John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) whom he had met in the 1970s at London's Kingsway College. The two formed half of the group of friends known as "The Four Johns", along with John Gray and John Simon Ritchie (later known as Sid Vicious).[7] Jah Wobble acquired his stage name through the drunken, mumbled version of Wardle's name by Sid Vicious, which Wobble kept because "people would never forget it".[8]
Musical career[edit]
In his early life and career, by his own admission,[9] Wardle was given to occasional bouts of aggression, exacerbated by heavy drinking and drug use. Resultantly he ended up living in a squat with John Gray in West London, whilst Lydon and Vicious formed The Sex Pistols. With admittedly large "builders hands", he had experimented with the guitar, but found playing bass a more connected and whole body experience, influenced in part by admiring Bob Marley's and The Wailers bassist Aston "Family Man" Barrett on stage in 1975.[10] Wardle was as critical of his friend Vicious's bass playing as John Lydon,[10] and had hence played in experimentation sessions with Lydon. After burning all the possessions of his squat-mates, they left him alone there with a mattress, a headboard and his Music Man-copy bass.[10]
Public Image Ltd (PiL)[edit]
Following the Sex Pistols' break-up, Lydon approached Wobble about forming a band. Both had similarly broad musical tastes, and were avid fans of reggae and world music. The band began rehearsing together in May 1978, although remained unnamed until July 1978, when Lydon officially named the band Public Image (PiL) (the "Ltd" was not added until several months later),[11] after the Muriel Spark novel The Public Image.[12] Wobble's bass playing drew heavily on dub, which has remained an important feature of his music. Having experimented with Lydon pre-Sex Pistols break-up, he had written a simple repetitive bassline[10] on which Lydon wrote "Public Image".[13] PiL debuted in October 1978 with "Public Image", which reached number 9 on the UK charts, and also performed well on import in the US. Wobble has stated that the first PiL album was recorded so quickly due in part to the bassist's altercations with a sound engineer and men at a nearby pub.[14] He has, however, dismissed claims accusing him of extreme malice, such as setting fire to the former drummer for The Fall, Karl Burns, while Burns was session drumming for PiL.[9]
Wobble co-wrote and contributed bass and drums to PiL's second album Metal Box,[15] which was released in 1979. However, he grew increasingly frustrated by the lacklustre creative atmosphere in the band, which he felt stifled his artistic ambitions and PiL's creative potential.[16] Besides differences in artistic vision, further conflicts were brought on in part by heavy drug and alcohol abuse in the band.[7] Wobble then went on to recording and releasing his debut album The Legend Lives on - Jah Wobble in Betrayal, and found himself accused by other PiL members of having made unauthorised use of material from Metal Box for the making of Betrayal.[7] Wobble then left PiL in late 1980.[11]
Wobble also released at least one single in the "PiL years": his 1978 "Dreadlock don't deal in wedlock" in which he recites Lear's Owl and the Pussycat and finishes with the immortal line, 'love and marriage is like ice cream and cabbage ... dreadlock don't deal in wedlock."[citation needed]
Early post-PiL years[edit]
Soon after leaving PiL, Wobble started his solo career by forming The Human Condition with guitarist Dave "Animal" Maltby and PiL's original drummer, Jim Walker. The Human Condition toured the UK, Europe, and US in 1981, and made two cassette-only releases of their live shows (Live at the Collegiate Theatre and Live in Europe). The post-PiL years saw Wobble also collaborating with Can members Holger Czukay and Jaki Liebezeit on Czukay's solo projects (notably On the Way to the Peak of Normal and Rome Remains Rome) and Full Circle (released in 1984).[11]
In 1983, Wardle appeared on the LP Snake Charmer billed as a co-leader alongside guitarist The Edge of U2, Czukay, Liebezeit, and producer François Kevorkian.[17]
Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart was formed in 1983,[citation needed] a group with a fluid line-up with Wardle, Justin Adams, Mark Ferda and David Harrow as the band's most constant members – guests included pedal steel guitarist B.J. Cole and percussionist Neville Murray.
His critical stance towards the commercialisation of the music industry, compounded by heavy drinking and drunken brawls, led to his abandoning music for a short period in the mid-1980s. He then did a variety of day jobs, whilst continuing to perform and record his music in what spare time he had. These jobs included a long stretch with the London Underground.[11] In an oft-quoted tale it is related that he once, at Tower Hill Underground Station via the public address system, regaled commuters with the deadpan announcement, "I used to be somebody. I repeat, I used to be somebody."[14]
By 1986, Wobble was clean and sober, and due to the repeated prompting of his friend and former band mate, percussionist Neville Murray, Wobble returned to music professionally.[18] Armed with a live recording of a concert he had made with a new line up of musicians during a European tour in 1988, Wobble travelled to New York City's New Music Seminar in 1989 to get back into the music industry. Wobble was able to secure an eleventh-hour record deal with a small European record label.[19] The live album, Without Judgement, recorded in the Netherlands was released in November 1989 and successfully revived Wobble's career.[11]
Early 1990s to present[edit]
Following the success of Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart albums Without Judgement in 1990 and Rising Above Bedlam in 1991, Wobble has since collaborated with a wide variety of musicians. His explorations into world music predated much of the genre's popularity. Jah Wobble's 1994 album Take Me To God was influenced by world music genres and contributions from a variety of artists of diverse cultural backgrounds, including Baaba Maal, Dolores O'Riordan, and Chaka Demus, and was a critical and commercial success.[11] His music has spanned a number of genres, including ambient music and dance music, and in 2003, reworkings of traditional English folk songs. Though he has released recordings since the early 1980s, Wobble has been quite prolific from the mid-1990s to the present. He now runs his own label, 30 Hertz Records, and tours regularly throughout the UK and Europe with his current band, Jah Wobble & The English Roots Band.
A collaboration with his wife, the Chinese-born guzheng player Zi Lan Liao, was entitled Chinese Dub.[20] He also performed at the 2008 Rhythm Festival.
Besides his work as a musician and composer, Jah Wobble also writes occasional book reviews for The Independent.[21] He studied part-time for four years at Birkbeck, University of London, graduating in 2000 with an upper second-class honours degree in the humanities.[22] His autobiography, entitled Memoirs of a Geezer: Music, Life, Mayhem (Serpent's Tail books, London), was released in September 2009.[23]
Jah Wobble and the Chinese Dub Orchestra won the 'Cross-Cultural Collaboration' category, for their album Chinese Dub, in the inaugural Songlines Music Awards, announced on 1 May 2009, which were the new 'world music' awards organised by the UK based magazine, Songlines.
In September 2009, John Lydon reformed PiL for a series of concerts in late 2009. Despite Lydon's invitation to join, Jah Wobble did not feature in the line-up, since he considered the wages offered insufficient and disagreed with the choice of venues.[24]
At an impromptu appearance at the Musicport Festival in Bridlington Spa on 24 October 2010, where they were joined by vocalist Johnny Rotter of the Sex Pistols Experience,[25] Wobble renewed his association with former PiL guitarist Keith Levene.
In 2011, Wobble collaborated with Julie Campbell, alias Warp Records artist LoneLady in a project called Psychic Life. The eponymous debut album Psychic Life was inspired by disco, post-punk and psychogeography, and released by Cherry Red Records on 14 November 2011.[26] Keith Levene contributed to three tracks on the album. A digital-only EP, Psychic Life, fronted by the song "Tightrope", was released in October 2011.
In early 2012, after some planned Japan gigs were cancelled because of visa issues, Wobble and Levene played various UK clubs as Metal Box in Dub. The visa issues were resolved and they played Fuji Rock festival in July 2012. This was followed by the release of a four-song, eponymous EP.[27] An album entitled Yin & Yang was released in November 2012.[28]
Wobble has also collaborated with the British ambient group Marconi Union, the results of which were released as an album called Anomic on 30 Hertz records in June 2013.[citation needed] In October 2013 30 Hertz Records released 'Odds & Sods & Epilogues' an illustrated book/CD of Jah Wobble's poetry.
List of collaborators[edit]
Post PIL singles and EPs[edit]
Year | Single | Peak chart positions | Album | |
US Mod Rock [30] |
1978 | "Dreadlock Don't Deal In Wedlock" | — | — | single only |
"Steel Leg V The Electric Dread" (with Don Letts, Keith Levene & Vince Bracken) | — | — | EP only | |
1979 | "Dan MacArthur" | — | — | The Legend Lives On... Jah Wobble In Betrayal |
1980 | "Betrayal" | — | — | |
"V.I.E.P. Featuring Blueberry Hill" | — | — | ||
1981 | "How Much Are They?" | — | — | Full Circle (with Jaki Liebezeit & Holger Czukay) |
1982 | "Fading" | — | — | Bedroom Album |
"A Long, Long Way" | — | — | ||
1983 | "Invaders Of The Heart" | — | — | |
"Body Music Mokili" (with Ben Mandelson) | — | — | singles only | |
1984 | "Voodoo" (with Ollie Marland & Polly Eltes) | — | — | |
1985 | "Love Mystery" | — | — | Neon Moon (with Ollie Marland) |
"Blow Out" | — | — | singles only | |
1986 | "Between Two Frequencies" (with Brett Wickens) | — | — | |
1987 | "Island Paradise" | — | — | Psalms |
1989 | "The Unspoken Word" (as Invaders Of The Heart) | — | — | Fuse II - World Dance Music (Various Artists) |
1990 | "Bomba" | — | — | Rising Above Bedlam (as Jah Wobble's Invaders Of The Heart) |
1991 | "Erzulie" | — | — | |
1992 | "Visions Of You" (feat. Sinéad O'Connor) | 35 | 10 | |
"Ungodly Kingdom" | — | — | ||
1994 | "Becoming More Like God" (feat. Anneli Drecker) | 36 | — | Take Me To God (as Jah Wobble's Invaders Of The Heart) |
"The Sun Does Rise" (feat. Dolores O'Riordan) | 41 | 22 | ||
"Amor" | 76 | — | ||
1997 | "Magical Thought" | — | — | The Light Programme |
1998 | "I Offer You Everything" | — | — | Umbra Sumus |
"Mount Zion" | — | — | ||
2009 | "Get Carter" | — | — | single only |
2012 | "Mississippi" | — | — | Yin And Yang (with Keith Levene) |
2014 | "Watch How You Walk" | — | — | Inspiration (with PJ Higgins) |
"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released. |
Jah Wobble main discography |
First Issue/Public Image (with PiL) (1978) · Metal Box/Second Edition (with PiL) (1979) · Paris au Printemps/Paris In The Spring (with PiL) (1980) · The Legend Lives on…Jah Wobble in Betrayal (1980) · V.I.E.P. (1980) · Bedroom Album (1982) · Snake Charmer (1983) · Neon Moon (1985) · Tradewinds (1986) · Psalms (1987) · Without Judgement (1989) · Rising Above Bedlam (1991) · Take Me to God (1994) · Spinner (with Brian Eno) (1995) · Heaven and Earth (1995) · The Inspiration of William Blake (1996) · The Celtic Poets (1997) · Requiem (1997) · The Light Programme (1998) · Umbra Sumus (1998) · The Five Tone Dragon—Jah Wobble presents Zi Lan Liao (1998) · Deep Space (1999) · Full Moon Over the Shopping Mall (2000) · Beach Fervour Spare (2000) · 30 Hertz - A Collection of Diverse Works From A Creative Genius (2000) · Molam Dub (with The Invaders of the Heart and Molam Lao) (2001) · Passage to Hades (with Evan Parker) (2001) · Radioaxiom: A Dub Transmission (with Bill Laswell) (2001) · Deep Space: Largely Live in Hartlepool & Manchester (2001) · The Early Years(2001){{.}} Shout at the Devil (with Temple of Sound) (2002) · Solaris: Live in Concert (2002) · Jah Wobble and the Invaders of the Heart-English Roots Music(2003){{.}} Fly (2003) · Five Beat (2004) · Live in Leuven(2004){{.}} I Could Have Been a Contender (Anthology) (2004) · Elevator Music V.1A (2004) · Car Ad Music (2004) · Mu (2005) · Alpha-One-Three (2006) · Jah Wobble & The English Roots Band (2006) · Heart and Soul (2007) · Chinese Dub (2008) · Car Ad Music (2009) · Get Carter (2009) · Japanese Dub (with the Nippon Dub Ensemble) (2010) · Welcome to My World (2010) · 7 (2011) · Psychic Life (with Julie Campbell) (2011) · EP (Jah Wobble + Keith Levene) (2012) Yin & Yang (Jah Wobble + Keith Levene) (2012) |
Personal life[edit]
Wobble has four children: two daughters, actress Hayley Angel Holt and journalist Natalie Wardle from his first marriage, and two sons with his second wife, the Chinese-born guzheng player and harpist Zi Lan Liao.
- ^ "The Guitar Repair Workshop: Jah Wobble's Ovation Magnum Bass". Theguitarrepairworkshop.blogspot.com. 2011-03-22. Retrieved 2013-06-17.
- ^ Jah Wobble, Memoirs of a Geezer, p. 81, Google Books preview
- ^ "Invader of the heart". Bass Guitar magazine. 2013-02-19. Retrieved 2014-04-24.
- ^ Jah Wobble, Memoirs of a Geezer, p. 1, Google Books preview
- ^ Memoirs of a Geezer, p. 7
- ^ Memoirs of Geezer, p. 13
- ^ a b c Simon Reynolds (2005). Rip it Up and Start Again - Postpunk 1978-1984. faber and faber. ISBN 978-0-571-21570-6.
- ^ Memoirs of a Geezer, p. 50
- ^ a b Post. "The Times Online, 24 March 2007, 'I'm still ye olde noble savage'". Entertainment.timesonline.co.uk. Retrieved 21 January 2012.
- ^ a b c d http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/jan/07/jah-wobble-invaders-heart-interview
- ^ a b c d e f Strong, Martin C. (2000). The Great Rock Discography (5th ed.). Edinburgh: Mojo Books. pp. 1077–1078. ISBN 1-84195-017-3.
- ^ "PIL Chronology: 1978" by Karsten Roekens & Scott M, Fodderstompf.com, 2006.
- ^ Lydon, John. No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs, Keith & Kent Zimmerman, St. Martin's Press, May 1994. ISBN 0-312-11883-X
- ^ a b Phil Strongman (2007). Metal Box – Stories from John Lydon's Public Image Limited. Helter Skelter Publishing. ISBN 978-1-900924-66-5.
- ^ Memoirs of a Geezer. pp 108-112
- ^ Memoirs of a Geezer. pp 101-104
- ^ "Discogs: Jah Wobble's Invaders Of The Heart". Retrieved 24 August 2013.
- ^ see Wardle's notes for I Could Have Been A Contender
- ^ [1][dead link]
- ^ [2][dead link]
- ^ [3][dead link]
- ^ Wardle, John (19 March 2004). "Reunited: 'Birkbeck, quite rightly, fancies itself'". Timeshighereducation.co.uk. Retrieved 17 April 2012.
- ^ "Memoirs of a Geezer: Music, Life, Mayhem". Serpent's Tail. Retrieved 20 April 2009.
- ^ Youngs, Ian (11 February 2010). "Public Image star Jah Wobble said no to reunion tour, BBC News, 11 February 2010, accessed 23 May 2010". BBC News. Retrieved 21 January 2012.
- ^ "Careering - Jah Wobble, Keith Levene, Johnny Rotter". YouTube. Retrieved 3 January 2012.
- ^ "Jah Wobble & Lonelady To Explore Psychic Life". Thequietus.com. 16 August 2011. Retrieved 25 August 2011.
- ^ "Jah Wobble & Keith Levene EP - 30 Hertz Records - Online Store". 30 Hertz Records. Retrieved 2013-06-17.
- ^ "News | New Jah Wobble & Keith Levene Album". The Quietus. Retrieved 2013-06-17.
- ^ "Official Charts Company: Jah Wobble's Invaders Of The Heart". Official Charts Company. Retrieved 8 August 2014.
- ^ "Jah Wobble's Invaders Of The Heart - US Modern Rock Songs". billboard.com. Retrieved 9 October 2014.
- Jah Wobble (2009). Memoirs of a Geezer: The Autobiography of Jah Wobble— Music, Life, Mayhem. London, UK: Serpent's Tail. ISBN 978-1-84668-712-9.
External links[edit]
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Jah Wobble. |
- Official website
- Jah Wobble discography at Discogs
- Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart discography at Discogs
- Jah Wobble statistics, tagging and previews at Last.FM
- Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart statistics, tagging and previews at Last.FM
- Jah Wobble group at Last.FM
- Jah Wobble video interview while in the studio
- Songlines Music Awards 2009


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Wow! Ton and tons of advice on binge eating! Some of it is great suggestions but some do not help me at all.
I've been a binge eater for years. I go along eating healthy then just lose it. I've found that having low calorie foods that I actually used to binge on in the house helps more than anything. I keep sugar free candies, sugar free low fat cake snacks, etc. But I keep them in the freezer. Out of sight, out of mind. Then on my really bad nights I thaw out one or two servings and that's it. I've learned to listen to my body. When I eat high calorie sweets it drains me of my energy, makes me sleepy and feel sluggish. Not to mention the guilt that I feel. I don't like feeling this way so I don't binge as much anymore but I do have pitfalls. The other night I still had 200 calories left on my tracker that I could consume. But instead of eating a healthy snack like fruit and yogurt or cottage cheese I went to sleep on the couch. I woke up at midnight starving! What did I eat? Half a bag of classic Lay's potato chips and drank a diet coke. Yes, I enjoyed every bite. Did I consider a healthy alternative such as popcorn? NO! Obviously my brain does not work after midnight. Then I felt guilty, beat myself up and had a 1 pound weight gain due to all of the sodium. I actually hated myself and wanted to give up on the healthy eating thing. But the next morning, I carried on as if nothing had happened. I went back and added all the excess I ate on my food tracker for the night before. Tons of extra fat and calories and sodium. Vowed to myself that it wouldn't happen again (yeah right!) and started my day fresh. Drank tons of water to flush out the sodium and excess fluid. Ate asparagus, cabbage and other foods that help rid the body of sodium for lunch and stayed on track all day. One thing I have learned is not to go to bed without a healthy bedtime snack. So one of my snack choices on my tracking system is saved for bedtime. I may wake up at midnight now but a glass of tea, water or juice satisfies me and I go back to sleep. I will not allow myself to lay there and think about food. I change my thoughts to good times with the family, plans for tomorrow, etc. I even kind of plan out part of my menu for the next day. Just thinking of what I will eat tomorrow takes my mind off of what can I eat right now. My reason for mindless eating/binging? It was there. I am now resolved to buying single serving chips and snacks for my grandkids so that I am left with no open packages. If I really want some of the "junk" food, I eat a one serving bag. I refuse to open more than that so portions are controlled. I might eat a few more fats and calories than I am supposed to but not enough to set me on a guilt trip or put me in the mind set of "OK, I've already screwed it for the day, may as well finish it up". I find that mixing up my menu and not eating the same thing every day tends to satisfy me more and lead to less binging. So I try a lot of new recipes. At least 2 or 3 a week. Eating things I am used to means comfort foods for me so I don't scrap old recipes, I just tweak them to make them more healthy. Binging is a reality of life for me and I know it will happen again. But I find it happening less and less. The junk food in the break room? I do the 3 bite thing. I allow myself 3 bites then discard any more that I have taken out. Most of the time I want to eat more but after a few minutes I am satisfied and happy that I tossed it. Remember that it takes a while for the stomach to send the brain the message that it's had enough. Lay down the fork and give that time to happen. I also have learned to lay down the fork between bites, chew slowly and savor every morsel. And to use a very much smaller plate to give the mind the idea that I have a full plate of food, not a half empty one. I also take a drink of water between each bite. Gained back 20 pounds? I bet you are really beating yourself up!!! Put it behind you. Start from what you weigh today and go forward. No looking back. Make the best choices you can make every day. It won't all be perfect but if 90% of it is right, you will accomplish your goal. Also, make short term goals and make them realistic. When you accomplish a short term goal, celebrate. Make a trip to the mall, walking will burn calories. Buy a pretty scarf or something inexpensive and display it in sight when you get home to remind yourself of what you accomplished. Be proud of reaching your goal no matter how long it takes. Don't overwhelm yourself with too many changes at one time. Take is slow and steady. You'll get there! Happy eating and may God Bless!
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Take one day at a time and forgive yourself for eating whatever it was get back on track and smile make a promise to self to do better
I try to prepare better options for the next day and make sure I workout and maybe even do a little extra to help balance everything out.
I do not dwell on my lapse...I get back to clean eating the next day and exercise an extra 15 mins as "punishment". If you dwell on it, you will only feel worse and continue to sulk and binge. It helps if you remove temptation. Thankfully I don't eat when I'm depressed, I sleep :-)
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I got back to SP. I'm going to try harder to stick with food tracking first. Then exercising no less than 10 mins a day. Either early morning or afternoon as soon as I get in if I didn't get to it in the morning. I am grateful for this forum. Thanks. And may all of us succeed.
Keep on pushin. Can't stop now.
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I suppose it's a good thing that I cannot eat when i'm upset.
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I just try to get back to what I should be doing. I try not to worry about it to much. I do try to remember what caused it in the first place. Was it a food that I should not have around that started it, was I upset about something, or did I change something in my routine? If I can figure out what started it maybe I can avoid it in the future or at the very least minimize it.
Edited by: MIKEYCO at: 2/18/2014 (20:51) I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. -Michael Jordan
First I do allow myself to feel bad and beat myself up a bit. I think it is healthy to feel disappointment when we have not reached the mark. BUT I only allow it for a day at most. Then it's time to move on.... SO I eat more lean protein and more fiber the next day. That combination makes me feel so full and satisfied I won't overeat. I usually end up with calories left over.... Good luck.
Hang in there & get back on the wagon. It is just a hiccup
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I just start again the next day and do not linger on my stumble. Every day a new beginning......
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Try not to beat myself up and just keep moving forward
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Just don't quit! Keep moving forward.
You will figure it out. I have fallen many times, but I keep getting up.
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Hello. I appreciate your comment. I've only been with SparkPeople 10 days and after the 7th day I went on a binge. No exercise and I ate too much. Even into the late hours; I try to eat no later than 7pm. I want to exercise early in the morning but I find I'm still tired when my clock goes off. Thanks for letting me (us) know we can lose weight even if we get interrupted by a binge. I noticed your weight lose chart, good job. I hope I can get there.
Keep on pushin. Can't stop now.
I would say that for me what has helped the most is having a plan and sticking with it, that doesn't mean not having any treats, it means knowing what treats I can allow myself while staying within my limits. Try packing a few treats that will work for you to replace what you're having at work. I have a bag of Dark chocolate Hershey kisses in my drawer "just in case" I needed them more often in the beginning if I needed them I would count out a serving of 5 (100 calories) and try to eat them slowly to keep me satisfied longer...
Every day no matter what happened the day before I will get up, dust myself off and start fresh!
Coming off a binge is easy. The hard part is staying off one.
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I do my best to avoid binges, not always successfully! It is crucial for me to plan what I'm going to eat for the day and I do this in my food log instead of just tracking what I eat. Somehow, having a plan will help me avoid the binge. But I do occasionally slip.
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Thanks lisa. i worry about finding an excuse....to make it ok
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you just forgive yourself, and forget about it, move on! It's a new day, new attitude. One step forward, two steps backward. just keep pushing forward till you know all you need to know to succeed with a healthy life style, and learn how to over come binds. What to eat to stay full, like whole barley, mini meals, fruits & vegetables & some grains, enough protein to not be tired, not doing a lot of caffeine to make you crave sugar.
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Even bodybuilders have a 'cheat day' once a week. I just get back on the train and figure it will even out over time... and maybe do a bit more cardio.
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All! I just tell myself tommorrow is a new day, will start again. I make sure I have a low cal breakfast and lunch prepared, go get some salad at the store to have with dinner. Just start again and try to be in control for the next day. Then I tell myself I used to overeat everyday all the time and doing better than that now. I do lose it and binge sometimes, but get back on track and just start again.
I feel better if I go ahead and put it all in the nutrition tracker. I think it helps me feel like I have some control. It's like "owning" the binge -- so it doesn't own me. I also know that I REALLY need to make sure I have healthy food choices at work and make sure I eat something HEALTHY every 3-4 hours. Awareness and tracking. Tracking and awareness.
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I usually binge when I'm feeling overworked or sorry for myself. I go back to tracking my food and fitness and have faith in the next day being a better one for me.
@KidAlot - I think there can be such a thing as "mindful binging". Like you I made the choice last night to indulge in some things that I haven't had in a long time, and went way outside my calorie, carb and fat ranges for the day. But I went into it knowing that would be case and choosing to do it.
The trouble starts when one keeps justifying continual binges. I may go out to dinner tomorrow night (Sunday), but I will make the best possible choices I can. Lisa
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is it a binge when you decide you're going to have something and enjoy it? last night i decided i wanted something - so i had it. yeah i went over the calories and yeah it was a bunch, but, heck it was valentines and i was out for dinner. i can reconcile it all i want in my mind, but i really shouldn't have done it.........
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Typically when I do that, I just reassure myself that I'm human..I make mistakes..& remind myself why I'm on this journey in the first place.. and for the remainder of the day & the following day.. I hit the gym hard (I usually spend 45 min in the gym 3 days a week) but when I hit a snag I add another day on to the week I had a set back & than I only drink raw green smoothies.. to sort of get me back on track...
Edited by: LADYLOX42 at: 2/14/2014 (16:20) Improving my health.....1 step & 1 bite at a time
I do self talk, letting me know that the human part of me is real and that as humans, we mess up. Now, get back on track.
All things are possible if you only believe, even losing 15 pounds
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Rarely am I even aware that I'm binge eating until it's too late. My friend calls it Zombie Brain. :D
I try to find the point when I made a choice that led to binge eating so I don't feel like a victim. Sometimes the choice is not to confront a bad feeling, sometimes the choice is buying the darn food in the first place. A great example was my plan to buy myself chocolates for Valentine's day and then eating them. This happened 3 times before I said "Clearly I have no self control over chocolate this week! No more!" For the physical recovery, I take a Zantac, eat a ton of fruits and veggies and drink lots and lots of water. I go for a walk then sit with my feet up. I usually feel less sluggish after that. I am more than a number.
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like the song says pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again!!!!! it happens. to all of us.
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we all fall off the wagon sometimes, don't let it get you down that's the most important thing, just say oops and try again. Also make sure you still track everything you ate in your nutrition tracker even if you have gone way over your amount for the day, then you can see how many extra calories you had and maybe a few extra minutes of exercise each day will help burn off the binge (I find this removes the feeling of helplessness that comes after a binge, just knowing I can fix it makes it so much easier to cope with) or if you don't have time for extra exercise you can still track it to look back on for next time you feel like a binge. I also work late nights with people who used to leave naughty food lying around all over the place, I asked them to take it home with them when they leave, or to put it away so its not staring at me saying ''eat me'' just ask for a little support from your colleagues, also having a little pot of berries on you at all times is a great way to bust sugar cravings, fruits like blueberries, raspberries and strawberries are full of natural sugars and hardly any calories so you can get a guilt free fix
It happened today. Shake it off and start fresh tomorrow.
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I'm so there with you. I've read countless of tips on how to prevent binging but nothing about how to stop yourself when you're reaching for that food. It's I don't have the thought that tells you "stop" you don't need that or I would be thinking that I shouldn't be eating something and I'm doing it anyways.
How I recover from a binge, I don't look back. I try to accept what had happen as best as I could and try to make the rest of the week as best as possible. I remind myself that if you're good 80% of the time you're still making progress. I have to really remind myself and try to stay positive about the whole thing. I also know what you mean about gaining the weight you had lost. I gained 10 pounds and I'm trying not to freak out about it and continue the course of eating healthy, clean and proportionately and exercising regularly. Stay positive.
If we have cakes and sweets at work that I don't want to eat mindlessly, I imagine that someone has picked up every cake or sweet and licked it. Especially if I imagine it is that slightly creepy, sweaty guy who has questionable personal hygiene. Puts me right off.
For times when I'm at home, feeling tired and unloved and just shoving anything in my mouth seems to be the solution, I try and binge on lower calorie foods like rice cakes instead of slices of bread and butter, or a bowl of un-sugary breakfast cereal without milk instead of a bowl of peanuts. The other thing is to try and track your binge. I often find I haven't eaten as many calories as I thought.
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I must say that I have enjoyed this thread and it was really helpful for me. I'm in the middle of a binge right now. I blogged about it today (2/12/14).
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Recover during a binge or From a Binge? During is another story that if you learn that one....., lol I get into a feeding frenzie at times. Sometimes I rationalize that I NEED it every blue moon or couple weeks, to convince my body that food is NOT in short supply and it doesn't need to adjust to lower levels. idk if that's true or not, but I do know that's my rationale of what I tell myself. But yes to get MINDFUL of what Im doing, what I want, what I need... and review my GOALS.
FROM a binge is much easier. After the crime one cant change the past, the only thing to be done is to firmly get back on track. it isn't logical nor rational to give up taking the needed steps just for slipping on one. Just let the past go, FORGIVE, or even better USE it as a learning tool to be even more motivated. What was going on when you just had to binge? how did you feel, what were you doing? what did you cheat with? did you drive out to get it or was it there in the house? was it a matter of portion control or a matter of poor choice food? Was it actual HUNGER or lack of something better to do to SELF SOOTH. If I do happen to catch myself during a binge, (most of my slip ups are mindless ones) I use an OLD but TRUE and very much tested method of REDIRECT. the old school house rock song, "The Munchies?" "go outside find something to do get munchin off your mind...♪♪♫♪♫ Then you find that you have left the muchies way behind." or something like that. If I'm watching TV, I might go on my computer instead, or play a Wii game, take a walk, write a letter or make an entry into my journal. LOTS OF PEOPLE GO TO SPARKPEOPLE WEBSITE INSTEAD!! like an alcoholic goes to a meeting. lol Don't kill them, don't get rid of them, JUST FIX THEM.
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Stopping and thinking about what I am doing and pushing on more mindfully.
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Don't continue it for the rest of the day.
Better to stop when you can. we all splurge. just don't let it keep going every day. "Be the Change you want to see in the world!" Gandhi
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I am having a really bad binge today. Have been trying to curb it with all my usual resources.
Drinking water, tea, eating fruit.
dust yourself off the following day and get back into eating healthy. Your only a failure if you give up..So although I binge once every two weeks I don't let it get me down I know the next day I will do well.
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This seems really simple and maybe a little silly, but if I'm craving something sweet (and like others, once I start on something sweet I keep wanting more) then I try to grab something not sweet but not necessarily salty either. Usually cheese, like string cheese or a babybel. Once I have eaten that (especially babybel, since it has a stronger flavor) I really don't want anything sweet anymore because it wouldn't taste as good after that.
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I move on and do better the next meal. I also try to drink a lot of water, makes me feel like I'm flushing it out of my system.
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As a recovering binge eater who's been able to cut my binges back to almost zero, from my personal experience I can say that no eating strategy will help eliminate binges that stem from emotional eating unless you're willing to address the root causes of why you're bingeing and find a healthier replacement for the binges. It's not easy and it's not an instantaneous process, but if you're really willing to work at it, this can help. Working with a therapist can help you identify the underlying causes of your binges and help you to develop alternative strategies to ward them off.
My name's Tina. I lost more than 90 pounds between March 2010 and March 2012 and have been keeping if off ever since.
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Years ago when i was a young girl .that goes way back a long time . on a show called the hit parade one of the singers said she kept her trim body by only eating three bites of anything and she stayed trim that way . I have many times pulled that thought out of my purse and tried to enforce it in my own life . sometimes with success and other times a great failure . the way at times we just want to eat the whole thing and not just a bite try three . and then let it be .
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My friend and I decided we HATED the way we felt after we cheated on our diets. We found that if we ate one thing, we felt like we failed and the whole day was a loss. We would do the whole "I'll start my diet over tomorrow", excuse and eat garbage for the whole day. The two of us decided to help keep each other accountable by playing a little competitive fitness/ diet challenge. We earn points for exercising and we LOSE points for cheating on our diets. It's only a 5 point loss for the first diet cheat, but the lost point value increases dramatically for each additional item you eat. Those points are hard to earn and losing them sucks, so it's motivation to stay the course. We talk about our points so that we have to account for what we did during the day.Since we are competitive people, our points matter if we want to win!!! We have found that the best way to recover from a binge is to NOT have one at all. Find a friend. Sometimes the cheesy little games are very helpful.
Edited by: MOMMACORIE1 at: 2/11/2014 (12:09) "While the difficult takes time, the impossible just takes a little longer."
If the pattern happens in summer and winter equally though, I will say it's probably not SAD, just FYI to anyone reading this. There are many things that cause a person to eat, just adding this in for my .02 because in my case, that's what it was/is.
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Thanks for the info. I did see a dietician who is about half my age and who has never struggled with her weight. She said, " Try harder and don't take the easy way out." That was my pep talk..... I felt like I was trying pretty hard already to keep my head above water.
Yeah I got my 5-HTP at Costco but you can get it online for the best price too. I wanted to binge and in fact did once before I started taking it, and that is so NOT like me - didn't have this problem when living farther south - moving to a dark wintered area has been SO negative for me that I'm moving AWAY. After 5HTP (I take l-tyrosine with it) I'm (mostly) back to normal now.
I've found that fighting hormones and blaming yourself is ridiculous and just doesn't work frankly. For people that think seasonal depression doesn't exist - it is REAL - and can get bad for many. Read the book, "Winter Blues", by Dr. Rosenthal for more info. If you think you have SAD a bright (made for SAD) lamp is the best first line of defense. It obviously wasn't good enough for me so I tried the 5HTP sort of out of desperation. There are many symptoms of SAD, food cravings are just one. If you think you have non-seasonal depression and it's serious, please get professional help. Edited to add: My best friend moved from Denver to Wisconsin and now thinks she has SAD there, not as bad as I do but I can see it in her too. She is tired, doesn't want to exercise (not like her), irritable, craving sweets, etc. Edited by: TRI_BABE at: 2/11/2014 (10:02)
There are group meeting for food abusers in cities around the U.S. I went to a few classes myself. They are motivational shoulders that you can lean on and learn from. It's like AA or NA. They follow a program like it. Look on your local ads for meeting that say; Overeaters Anonymous, Eaters Anonymous. If you cant find a local group attend any program that works with addicts.
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Perhaps this explains why I have had such a hard time with carbs. I live in Wisconsin and we have had something like 46 days where part it at least has been below zero degrees. No one wants to be outside. Through January and now through this cold February I have struggled with feeling stressed, bummed out and a strong craving for carbs that often pulls me to the dark side of food choices. Where can one get 5-HTP? Health Food stores?
I recently found out I have seasonal depression and one symptom of that is carbohydrate cravings, which can be extreme. The cause is low serotonin levels as eating carbohydrates increases the level of serotonin in your body. Your brain knows this so intensely starts to seek them out.
I started taking 5-HTP and it's helped a LOT. I don't need to take it in the summer, just the winter. If someone has non-seasonal depression caused by low serotonin, this would be a symptom though as well. Just a thought.
Good for you! Doing great and moving forward you get an Ata-girl for that.
Shake it off and get back on track!
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Guilt with a side of self-loathing... :) Actually I'm focusing on the end result and realize that I'm human. If I slip, I admit it and move on. Gives me that much more resolve to get to the goal and know that if it is an accident/special occasion there is no reason to give up.
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It's not easy, but I try to remember the past is the past, can't change it. Move forward
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I am a binge eater. :-( I have not over come this problem yet. don't know what to do about it.
Binge eating is something new to me. I have never been a binge eater until recently. I have no idea why or how to stop. I have to have something to eat or just munch constantly. I know I haven't been using sparks like I should and have come back and hopefully can get back on track.
What helps me is remembering the past is the past. One of the items on my goal board is "Stay in the Present." I try to write in my planner about what I did wrong, why I did it and how I can avoid it in the future. I know I'll binge again, but I know I'm conscienciously doing it less and that's what counts.
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First I try to let it go. No use beating myself up over it, because that will just make me want to eat more. Then my trainer suggested, after a "bad" day try for two exceptionally healthy days...and be sure to drink lots of water. That way the "bad stuff" doesn't have time to settle. Of course my ultimate goal is to avoid binges all together...just enjoy small amount of my favorite foods when I can. That way I don't have to feel guilty, and I don't have to see food as good vs. bad.
Blue said: What I tell myself when I get there is, "This is MY food. It's special and it's just for me. What's in the kitchen is OTHER people's food. It's not mine."
that has helped me not raid dh's/other people's food. I add "unless I'm invited." also decided he could buy his own junk and that I did not need to round up/bake/make for other people, which I would then often have to eat and replace. |
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Great queston! For me I have stopped the negative self bashing! We are human and we are going to slip up on this journey....we need to stop BEATING ourselves up! When you start to be nicer to yourself and with alittle hard work the binges seem to get farther and farther apart! Be kind to yourself!
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This semester and last semester all my classes I taught are at night, so I've had trouble with the late-night snacking thing too. Fortunately, though I'm almost alone on the office floor before/after class, there's usually no food left out in our tiny break room, and people's offices are locked, so there's not that much access. There are vending machines, though, and fast food places right across the street, so the temptation is still there.
What I've found helps is to pack my bento box. It might be dinner-type stuff that I'll eat before going to class, or it might be planned snacks like a boiled egg, mini tomatoes, almonds, crackers, a piece of cheese, or sometimes a PB&J sandwich. I HATE baby carrots. I might put in one cookie. I've actually had good results with the PBJ thing. It has some fat and some sugar, but also a lot of protein. And, once it's gone, it's gone. There's nothing more to binge on. What I tell myself when I get there is, "This is MY food. It's special and it's just for me. What's in the kitchen is OTHER people's food. It's not mine." After I get home, it's ten o'clock and I'm not ready to go to sleep since I just got home from work, so I'm working on what to eat then so I don't just scarf down Ritz crackers while reading a book. I'm thinking maybe soup, an egg with toast, or hot cereal. Comforting, nice, but not junk food. "I can do all things through him who strengthens me." Phil 4:13, ESV
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I let it go and focus on the current meal/day.
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I find that if I plan out my food in the morning and track it all then I am less likely to eat more than I want.
I also find that if I haven't eaten enough during the day I am not really binging - rather I am hungry and need to eat. Are you eating enough? Maybe you are trying to get off those extra pounds and not eating enough? If I do eat too much at one meal, I chalk it to to one episode and don't let it get me down. I get back on track.
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A lot of responces hear have been so close to the total answer but haven't actually stated how to "Get Over a Binge".
There are at least two parts to a "binge". One is the actual intake of the food (calories) and the other is psychological pain you feel before the Binge and the psychological pain (guilt) you feel after a binge. First, be honest and nice to yourself. Never demand from yourself what you wouldn't demand from someone else. What do you tell a friend who is miserable and thinks that she has ruined her life. Tell that to yourself. Some people here have indicated that when they Binge that they don't track their food. They stop binging and the next day just start over. That doesn't address "How you recover from a Binge at all. First, it is very VERY important to track your food during a binge. It really doesn't matter if you've had to many carbs or fat or protein. Calories are King! By tracking your calories and subtracting your daily goal, you will find out how many calories in excess of your daily goal you have consumed. You know that eating 3500 calories in one day will not show up on the scale the next day. If what you binged on was highly salty, you could see an increase in weight, but it's water weight. When I played football in high school, I consumed somewhere between 4000 and 5000 calories a day. Even eating at that level, by the end of the season I had actually lost weight. Backing off on all the practice, running and weightlifting led to me not feeling hungry and consequently I ate less. With a substantial cut in activity and not feeling hungry, I kept my weight swing between 5-10 pounds. For a guy, with higher testosterone, that's at most a two day increase in exercise. It's different for ladies, and for men as they age. Testosterone levels drop. So, what you have to do is to look at the whole process scientifically. For ease in computations, we will assume that you overate one day by exactly 3500 calories. If you did absolutely nothing about it, or you ignored the excess calories, you will have gained one pound - it might not show up on the scales until later in the week, but a pound is 16 ounces (You thought I was going to say something else, right). Look at both your nutrition tracker and your exercise tracker because there are three ways to eliminate the 3500 extra calories. The most obvious is to lower your intake to make up for your excess. Lowering your goal by 100 - 150 calories a day is considered very doable. For practical purposes, it's eliminating one carton, 6 ounces, of FF yogurt 80 calories) and 1/2 of a serving of vegetables (7 grams of carbohydrate = 28 calories). It's even less volume if you can eliminate some fat out of your daily diet. A total of 100 +/- calories lost - it will take you 35 days to get even with the track you were on. The second way to make up for the excess calories is to burn 100 calories more a day than your exercise plan calls for. So what kinds of things burn an extra 100 calories? 23 minutes of casual biking (don't forget your helmet!); jumping rope for 9 minutes at a moderate intensity; playing Frisbee Golf at the park for 30 minutes; 18 minutes spent weeding the garden; spend 14 minutes rearranging furniture. There are a number of ways to expend just 100 calories, just google "burn 100 calories" and if you can't find at least 100 ways in less than 2 minutes ....., well, you need to read faster - which will burn more calories. Spending more time with difficult mental challenges also burns more calories - but they are hard to measure. This, too, will take you 35 days to catch up from the Binge. The third and most efficient way to make up for your Binge is to combine both of these ways: consuming fewer calories and increasing you calorie expenditure just a bit. My favorite way of burning an extra 200 calories is to spend an hour in the park playing Frisbee Golf with my grandson. Actually, I bet I burn more than 100 calories because my 6 year old grandson is never content to briskly walk after our frisbee's - he runs me ragged. After more than an hour in the park (we can never get away with just playing Frisbee Golf), at 67 I am ready to go home for a short nap - AFTER I enter my 200 calorie burn to my fitness tracker. If I confused anyone, please don't hesitate to SparkMail me with your questions. "A government big enough to give everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have."
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Acceptance and then letting it go. I drink a protein shake and eat fresh fruit for breakfast the next morning. I then go back to eating "my normal," which is pretty "clean." I also make sure I get my 8 glasses of water and try to drink a few more. I agree with others and getting back to exercise helps, too!
A good workout and lots of water!
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Talk as Democrats having mature discourse while perhaps also having a drink or three.
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Tonight's Featured Drink is the Mexican Martini.
Mexican Martini
* 2 to 3 ounces tequila
* 1 ounce Cointreau
* ½ ounce orange juice (pulp free)
* splash of 7-Up or Sprite
* Sweet & Sour mix (approximately 8 ounces)
* squeeze of fresh lime juice
* dash of juice from the olive jar
* skewered cocktail olivesFill a 16-ounce cocktail shaker halfway with ice and add the first four ingredients. Fill the shaker the rest of the way with Sweet &
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