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Fort Lauderdale is joining the world in celebrating Earth Hour this Saturday at 8:30pm! (Information provided by the City of Fort Lauderdale.)
Earth Hour 2015
Date: 03/28/2015 8:30 PM - 9:30 PM
The City of Fort Lauderdale proudly supports Earth Hour 2015 and its mission to create a sustainable world.
On Saturday, March 28, from 8:30 p.m. – 9:30 p.m., communities everywhere will switch off lights for one hour to celebrate a commitment to the planet by leading a more sustainable lifestyle.
The City of Fort Lauderdale plans to participate by turning off non-essential lighting at City Hall.
Where possible, we invite our neighbors to join us in an effort to preserve our planet for future generations.
For more information on this World Wildlife Fund initiative, please visit www.earthhour.org.
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NEW YORK – Jan. 30, 2015 – News Corp founder and executive chairman Rupert Murdoch took the stage at Real Estate Connect in New York on Thursday to explain why Move Inc., the operator of realtor.com, was a better acquisition than other online real estate advertising websites.
According to Murdoch, Move and realtor.com have a trifecta of powerful marketing points over Zillow and Trulia:
- "Move has the most up-to-date and accurate listings in the market," Murdoch said, noting that realtor.com's listings are updated every 15 minutes.
- "Move has a close relationship with the National Association of Realtors®, and I believe real estate agents are crucial to every home sale in America," he said.
- "Realtor.com attracts transaction-ready consumers – they're not just window shoppers – and that's attractive to advertisers," Murdoch said.
Most people who begin their real estate search online eventually need human interaction and guidance, Murdoch believes, and realtor.com facilitates those connections.
"There is no digital replacement for the human touch," he said. "No technology can meet all of someone's needs. It takes a real person. Realtor.com helps bring homebuyers, sellers, and agents together. We want the shortest distance between the American Dream and a family's reality to be realtor.com."
Murdoch reassured critics that News Corp's goal is not to turn Move into a media company and take realtor.com away from its mission of connecting agents with consumers. Instead, he said, he wants to enhance the realtor.com user experience to help it better fulfill its mission.
"We're going to add to the user interface, make it more obviously friendly for agents and consumers," Murdoch said. "We've got to make a better product, and then when we're satisfied, we need to get out and market it hard.
Australian-born Murdoch said that he understands "there's a different business model in America. We don't want to replace agents – we think they're absolutely central."
Murdoch also predicted that the U.S. housing market would continue to expand and recover – another reason he was interested in buying a real estate company. He said the data he's been seeing from Move thus far is encouraging, and the U.S. market offers the best bet for long-term growth in the world.
Murdoch ended on a note that became the most talked-about moment of his appearance: He said he believed in the ability of the realtor.com name to attract consumers away from the site's rivals because "we all know what 'Realtor' means," Murdoch concluded when he compared the marketing muscle of online ad sites. "What the hell does 'Zillow' mean?"
Source: Graham Wood, Realtor Magazine
© 2015 Florida Realtors®
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Rio Vista is a beautiful tree-lined community adjacent to downtown Fort Lauderdale. Its name means "River View" in Spanish, and as you can expect, the sought-after neighborhood is perched right along the banks of the New River, as it snakes its way through the southeastern part of the city towards the Intracoastal. It is one of the oldest communities in Fort Lauderdale and, in addition to its shady tree-lined streets, features meandering sidewalks and plenty of unique architecture, both old and new.
At the close of World War I, Fort Lauderdale claimed approximately 2,000 residents. An era of prosperity in the early 1920's, along with the proliferation of new modes of transportation, saw the city begin its transition from a mostly agricultural community to a full-fledged resort town. Residential areas began to develop along the river, with the creation of neighborhoods like Rio Vista on the south banks and Colee Hammock on the north. The first plat of the area to the south of the river was recorded by Mary Brickell, the famous pioneer developer in Miami and now a major landholder in Fort Lauderdale, as well (she also owned much of the land in Colee Hammock and along Las Olas Boulevard). Upon her death, the land to the south was purchased by C.J. Hector, who began developing the area he dubbed "River View". By February 1923, the Fort Lauderdale Herald newspaper (now the Sun Sentinel) reported that Rio Vista was booming, with over 5,000 feet of sidewalk laid and streetlights installed!
The land boom reached its peak by 1925, when Fort Lauderdale's population climbed to 16,000. The late 1920's saw a series of unfortunate events plague the city, only to be followed by the start of the Great Depression, and then the onset of World War II later in the decade. It was after the war that Fort Lauderdale started seeing growth again when thousands of servicemen discovered the area with its pleasing climate and a chance to reasonably purchase land in a burgeoning community. Rio Vista development began anew, thus accounting for the eclectic architectural style that is incorporated in this picturesque community. You may find an original 1930's Spanish Mediterranean design next to a 1940's bungalow next to a modern estate; yet nothing seems out of place, lending to the distinct character of this charming neighborhood.
Today our beautiful city has a total population of close to 165,000 and Rio Vista is comprised of about 1000 homes. It is bordered by US 1 to the west, the Intracoastal to the east, SE 12th Street on the south (adjacent to the neighborhoods of Harbordale and Lauderdale Harbours) and, of course, the New River to the north. Though the interior of the neighborhood is very quiet and peaceful with no through traffic, the enviable location (close to downtown, commercial/retail areas, as well as offering quick and convenient access to major highways, airport, and Port Everglades) makes this waterfront neighborhood one of the most desirable places to live in the area.
Of course, that's not even taking into consideration its prime waterfront location. Though Fort Lauderdale has nearly 170 miles of waterfront real estate (it isn't called the "Venice of America" for nothing!), Rio Vista has long been considered one of the foremost communities for mariners to call home. Residences along the "Rio Vista Isles", or the finger streets on the east side of the neighborhood, have only 17th Street Causeway bridge over the Intracoastal between them and the open sea (this bridge measures 55' when it's closed, but will open for vessels upon request). Many homes here are on double lots with 100' of waterfront. The canals are large – averaging about 130' wide (with depth varying from 4-7') - offering many options for boat size. There are also homes along a stretch of the Tarpon River, but with a width of 60-90' and a fixed bridge at SE 9th Street with just an 8' clearance, only smaller motorboats and kayaks can traverse this route. But it is the dozen or so homes located directly on the New River that are the most sought-after in Rio Vista. With 100' of waterfront each along the river that is 140-165' wide, there is ample space for homeowners to dock even the largest yacht right in their back yard!
The Gayle Borden Real Estate Group is the leading expert in luxury Fort Lauderdale Real Estate, working tirelessly to provide comprehensive service to all of our clients. For information on Homes for Sale in Rio Vista or other fine Fort Lauderdale neighborhoods, please contact us by phone at 954-525-3355 or by e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.com.
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Did you know the Founding Fathers left road building largely in the hands of the states and local municipalities? They believed locals could better maintain their roadways and so provided no federal mechanism for funding or constructing them. As a result, by the time Henry Ford began the mass production of vehicles that led to America's love of both cars and traveling the open road, cities and states were designing all kinds of signals and signs to direct traffic around urban areas. There were no recognized standards. The first stop sign was a white rectangle with black letters, not the red octagon we are familiar with today. Most signals had only green and red lights and a buzzer to warn the color was changing, not a yellow light. Police officers stood in the middle of the intersections and manually changed the signals from green to red. It took state transportation officials banding together to begin providing continuity. Eventually, signs and signals would be the same whether you were in Salt Lake City or Atlantic City.
Things evolved that way with electronic toll collection. Each state picked a system suited to its needs at the time, with the price of installation and maintenance near the top of the list in importance. Toll Tag, the first electronic toll system in the U.S., was installed in Texas in 1989. In the mid '90s New York and New Jersey got on the same page with E-ZPass because they were just across the river from one another and traffic continually traveled back and forth on a myriad bridges and tunnels. California picked an entirely different system, as did Washington State. When the Florida Department of Transportation was ready to begin electronic collection, we picked the technology that became SunPass.
Twenty years ago, there was no reason to believe a driver in Texas would need or want to use his Toll Tag in Massachusetts. In major urban areas, most toll traffic was locals going to and from work. Commuters had replaced the long distance travelers that made up the majority of the traffic on the legacy turnpikes in the '50s, '60s and '70s.
Florida remains the most popular tourist destination in the US, however, and we have thousands of motorists coming from the Atlanta and Raleigh/Durham areas--for football games, to visit family or the tourist attractions and beaches. Floridians are traveling to vacation spots in Georgia and North Carolina. It makes sense for us to allow our respective customers to use their own transponders when traveling nearby for day or weekend trips and longer vacations.
Florida just became interoperable with Georgia; we can use our SunPass on Atlanta's Express Lanes and they can use their Peach Pass here in the Sunshine State. Last summer, we began accepting Quick Pass from North Carolina. We are also working with other nearby states on becoming interoperable very soon. We have had some requests by winter residents to be able to use their E-ZPass here in Florida, but until recently, SunPass customers had shown little interest in using their transponders outside the Sunshine State. That is changing.
Meanwhile, on the larger stage, the federal initiative Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21 Century (MAP-21) mandates that all toll systems in the U.S. will be interoperable by October 2016.
That requires all of the agencies complete a lot of work in a short time. Thirty-five states have toll roads, bridges, tunnels or causeways. Our friends farther north in Ontario are also interested in interoperability.
We must make all of the different existing technologies "talk" to each other without requiring every state to change to one type of toll protocol, which would run into billions of dollars. Business rules must be established that include such things as the number of times per day active account data is exchanged and the timeframe for reconciling transactions and income for each agency. Most important, however, is ensuring that SunPass customers receive equal and fair treatment when traveling on other state's toll facilities without being charged higher tolls or service fees.
Also, we are participating in a national effort to develop universal signage that will tell you where your SunPass is accepted--whether you are traveling on the Capitol Beltway or the Golden Gate Bridge.
Another step in readying Florida for nationwide interoperability is our ongoing SunPass Tag Swap program. If you have received a postcard from SunPass and have not taken advantage of the opportunity to get a new transponder, I urge you to do so as soon as possible. Call 1-855-TAG SWAP (1-855-824-7927) or visitwww.sunpasstagswap.com. Once you have your new interoperable-ready transponder, please take a minute to review that your SunPass account is up to date by going to www.SunPass.com.
With gratitude,
Diane Gutierrez-Scaccetti
Executive Director
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It's 2015 and Fort Lauderdale is proving, more than ever, that it is truly a top notch city filled with culture, entertainment, and fun for the entire family. Here are just a few of our picks for some fun events happening this weekend throughout Greater Fort Lauderdale. We hope you are inspired to experience some of these – and other – great things happening around our beautiful city!
The finest young talent in South Florida is performing at The Bonnet House & Museum's "Young Artist Music Series" throughout the winter season. The next presentation of the series is tonight, January 22, from 7-9pm. The evening's activities take place in and around the estate house with the concert taking place on the veranda lawn beneath the moon and stars. Sweet music, balmy starlit nights, and the setting of the beautiful Bonnet House & Museum (900 N. Birch Road) combine for a truly unique experience. The Concert Under the Stars series includes complimentary wine, dessert and coffee (sponsored by Whole Foods Market) with the price of admission.
The legendary singer Michael Bolton will be at the Hard Rock Live (1 Seminole Way, Hollywood) on January 23rd to perform his greatest hits including "When a Man Loves A Woman", "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You", and "I Said I Love You, but I Lied". $1 from each ticket goes to Michael Bolton Charities, which support various women's and children's charitable organizations benefiting victims of poverty and abuse, both emotional and physical. Enjoy the evening's performance and support these admirable causes. The show begins at 8pm and tickets start at $45.
January 23-24, bring the children (Grades K-2) to The Bailey Concert Hall & Fine Arts Theater (3501 Davie Road, Fort Lauderdale) to experience a wonderful musical stage production of "The Rainbow Fish", the famous children's story by Marcus Pfister. As the story goes, The Rainbow Fish is the most beautiful fish in the ocean because of her shiny scales, but she learns the true meaning of beauty when she shares her scales with others. The show starts at 10am both Friday & Saturday.
Fort Lauderdale gets in on the laughter when the worlds #1 name in comedy comes to the Broward Center for the Performing Arts (201 SW 5th Avenue) on January 23! The Second City takes on all the news that's fit to twist, featuring hilarious sketches, songs and improvisations about the biggest headlines and hot-button issues in South Florida. And it is all served up with a satirical side of that famous Chicago-style brand of Improv. Don't miss your chance to see the superstars of tomorrow live on stage when The Second City Hits Home! The show starts at 7:30pm and tickets are just $39!
January 24th is Tri-Rail's "Rail Fun Day". From 11am-3pm at the Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport Tri-Rail Station in Dania Beach (500 Gulfstream Way), the "Rail Fun Day" will offer a FREE, fun-filled afternoon for the entire family. South Florida families will have a chance to meet Tri-Rail's mascot Conductor George Green, participate in cookie decorating with Winn-Dixie and interactive games from the Miami Marlins, South Florida Parenting and more. Prizes, giveaways and activities will be provided courtesy of Broward Center for the Performing Arts, Fort Lauderdale Children's Theatre, Museum of Discovery & Science and many more. Ride the train to the event with roundtrip fares for just $5, in addition to free rides for kids 12 and under (on this day only). Plus, you can see eleven young stars under 17 will show off their singing talents as they compete in the "South Florida's Kids Got Talent" competition and vie for the $500 grand prize.
January 25th will be the last day to experience "Amaluna, presented by Cirque du Soleil" at Sun Life Stadium (2269 Dan Marino Blvd). Amaluna invites the audience to a mysterious island governed by Goddesses and guided by the cycles of the moon. Their queen, Prospera, directs her daughter's coming-of-age ceremony in a rite that honors femininity, renewal, rebirth and balance which marks the passing of these insights and values from one generation to the next. In the wake of a storm caused by Prospera, a group of young men washes ashore, triggering an epic and emotional story of love between Prospera's daughter and a brave young suitor. But theirs is a love that will be put to the test and the couple must face numerous demanding trials before they can achieve mutual trust, faith and harmony. Amaluna (the name of this mysterious island) is a fusion of the words ama, which refers to "mother" in many languages, and luna, which means "moon"; a symbol of femininity that evokes both the mother-daughter relationship and the idea of goddess and protector of the planet. It is a tribute to the work and voice of women, and for the first time in Cirque du Soleil's history, features a cast that comprises 70% women, with a 100% all-female band. Admission is $45.
Now through February 1st, you can experience the phenomenon that is The Lion King! The most eagerly awaited stage production ever will leap onto the Au-Rene Theatre stage at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts (201 SW 5th Avenue). Visually stunning, technically astounding and with a musical score like none you've ever heard. Giraffes strut, birds swoop, and gazelles leap. The entire savannah comes to life and as the music soars, Pride Rock slowly emerges from the mist. See the Tony® Award-winning Broadway sensation that Newsweek calls "a landmark event in entertainment." The New York Times says, "There is simply nothing else like it." Marvel at the breathtaking spectacle of animals brought to life by a cast of more than 40 actors. Wonder at the inspiration of award-winning director Julie Taymor, who created visual images for this show that you'll remember forever. Thrill to the pulsating rhythms of the African Pridelands and an unforgettable score including Elton John and Tim Rice's Oscar®-winning song "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" and "Circle of Life." Showtimes for the run vary, and tickets range from $34.75 to $149.75. If you are a fan of the theater, you won't want to miss this show!
Be sure to check in with us often as we share the many events Fort Lauderdale has to offer each week. And to learn more about our great city - or for information on Fort Lauderdale Real Estate - visit us at www.gayleborden.com or call The Gayle Borden Group at 954.525.3355.
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Home Resolutions
If your New Year's resolutions include saving money, we've got four great ways for you to achieve your goals:
If you haven't yet refinanced your mortgage or home equity loan to take advantage of today's low interest rates, there's still time to lock in a great deal. Jay Brinkmann, chief economist for the Mortgage Bankers Association, expects mortgage rates to rise to 4.8 percent in 2015, and to 5.4 percent by the end of 2016.
If your current mortgages exceed your home's value, you may still be able to refinance using one of the federal government's Home Affordable Refinance Program.
Change Your Furnace Filters
New Year's resolutions don't get much easier than vowing to change your HVAC filter once a month in 2015 to increase your furnace's life span. To make this task easy, buy 12 filters and store them in the furnace room so they're at hand when you need them. Put a reminder on your calendar, or tie this chore to another monthly chore, like paying your household bills, so you remember to do it each month.
Seal Those Home Air Leaks
Sealing the air leaks in your home is one of the most cost-effective ways to cut your utility bills. Check to make sure your windows are caulked around the outside of the trim on the inside, and outside, of your home. Use foam to fill large gaps where the plumbing, electric or cable comes in the house.
Shop Your Insurance Policies
Yes, it's a bother to shop for insurance, but if you haven't checked what's out there lately, you may be overpaying. The easiest way to get this chore done is to delegate. Copy the declarations pages from your current home, auto, life and umbrella policies, and ask an independent insurance agent to look for a better overall deal for you.
You can also visit your current agent, or call your insurance company and ask for an annual review to make sure you've got the right coverage and are getting all the discounts for which you qualify.
If you need a referral to a good insurance agent, mortgage loan officer or home handyperson, please contact me.
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The holiday season is always such a wonderful time to enjoy live music – it just seems so festive! And good thing there is plenty of beautiful live music to be heard throughout Fort Lauderdale this week! Here are a few choices to get you in the holiday spirit:
On December 8, enjoy the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra perform "Holiday Pops" at the Broward Center for the Performing Arts (201 SW 5th Avenue). When music director John Morris Russell talks about the Cincinnati Pops, which he calls "the finest pops orchestra on the planet," he simply echoes what countless critics and audience members have been saying for years. "We're celebrating American music in a whole new way," he says, and demonstrates in an exciting, captivating holiday concert with Broadway sensation Brian Stokes Mitchell. The Tony Award-winning "super baritone" is such a dynamic stage presence that the New York Times called him "Broadway's last leading man." You'll see and hear how right they are in this holiday extravaganza for the whole family--come home for the holidays, home to the Broward Center! The show starts at 8pm.
On December 10, the Broward Center for the Performing Arts will play host to another genre with a jazz concert of American popular song featuring the Bill Charlap Trio. One of the world's premier jazz pianists, Bill Charlap has performed and recorded with many leading artists of our time, ranging from jazz masters Phil Woods and Wynton Marsalis to singers Tony Bennett and Barbara Streisand. Since 1997, he has led the Bill Charlap Trio with bassist Peter Washington and drummer Kenny Washington, now recognized as one of the leading groups in jazz. Enjoy this evening filled with the music of Gershwin, Porter, Kern and more from the Great American Songbook. The evening's performance will begin at 7:45.
In a recording career that spans almost three decades and 23 albums, Grammy Award-winning saxophonist Kenny G has solidified his reputation as the premier artist in contemporary jazz. Since the early '80s, his combination of unparalleled instrumental chops and indelible melodies has resulted in sales of more than 75 million records worldwide (45 million in the U.S. alone) and more than a dozen climbs to the top of Billboard's contemporary jazz chart. Sit back, relax and enjoy the king of smooth jazz for a musical experience like no other. He'll be performing at the Parker Playhouse (707 NE 8th Street) on December 11 at 8pm.
And finally, the holidays just wouldn't be the same without an exciting performance by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. TSO will wrap up 2014 by performing their rock opera "The Christmas Attic" live at the BB&T Center (One Panther Parkway, Sunrise) on December 12. This is the first time they will perform this piece in arenas across the nation for their Winter Tour 2014. While 1998's album "The Christmas Attic" features one of the band's most popular songs "Christmas Canon," surprisingly, it is the only album of The Christmas Trilogy that they have never before performed live. The 2014 Winter Tour will find TSO playing more than 120 shows in 71 cities across North America. Don't miss them as they make their stop in South Florida this holiday season!
What a festive start to the holiday season here in Fort Lauderdale! We love sharing how spectacular our community is and the array of events that are available here each week. So check out our website regularly in order to stay up-to-date on all that Fort Lauderdale has to offer and to learn more about this great city. Additionally, you can browse our Fort Lauderdale Real Estate listings anytime by visiting www.GayleBorden.com or call Gayle Borden at 954-525-3355.
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Lucius Fulvius Gaius Bruttius Praesens Laberius Maximus Polyonymus (c. 119 – after 180) was a prominent Roman senator and twice consul during the reigns of Roman emperors Antoninus Pius, Marcus Aurelius and Commodus. His career is largely known from inscriptions. The epithet Polyonymus appears on his grave inscription but should not itself be understood as a name, like some aristocratic Romans of the period he had ten or twelve names in all.
Praesens was the son and (as far as is known) the only child to Roman consul and senator Caius Bruttius Praesens Lucius Fulvius Rusticus and from his second marriage to rich Roman heiress Laberia Hostilia Crispina, daughter of the general and twice consul Manius Laberius Maximus. He was born and raised in Volceii, Lucania, Italy. To judge by the presumed dates of his first offices, Praesens must have been born in or around the year 119. He served as a military tribune in Legio III Gallica in Syria, probably about 136 when his father was governing the province. At the beginning of Antoninus Pius' reign the family evidently stood in high favour: the father took his second consulship in 139 as colleague of the new emperor, and the son was elevated to patrician status about the same time. He went on to fill the coveted position of quaestor augusti to Antoninus.
His first consulship fell in 153: he was consul ordinarius, initiating the year with Publius Septimius Afer for colleague. He continued to prosper under Marcus Aurelius: like his father, he was Proconsul of Africa, in 166-167. In 178, Marcus Aurelius' son future Emperor Commodus was married to Praesens's daughter Bruttia Crispina and Marcus designated Praesens consul for the year 180. On 3 August 178, Praesens was one of those who accompanied Marcus and the young Commodus on the so-called 'expeditio Germanica secunda' against the Quadi, Iazyges and Marcomanni, and received military decorations for his part in the campaign. Praesens duly initiated the year 180, again as consul ordinarius, with Sextus Quintilius Condianus for colleague. His wife is unknown and Praesens had two children: a son, the future consul Lucius Bruttius Quintius Crispinus and a daughter, future Empress Bruttia Crispina.
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Conversion to soy on the Amazonian agricultural frontier increases streamflow without affecting stormflow dynamics
Article first published online: 25 JAN 2011
DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2486.2011.02392.x
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Global Change Biology
Volume 17, Issue 5, pages 1821–1833, May 2011
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HAYHOE, S. J., NEILL, C., PORDER, S., MCHORNEY, R., LEFEBVRE, P., COE, M. T., ELSENBEER, H. and KRUSCHE, A. V. (2011), Conversion to soy on the Amazonian agricultural frontier increases streamflow without affecting stormflow dynamics. Global Change Biology, 17: 1821–1833. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2486.2011.02392.x
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- Article first published online: 25 JAN 2011
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Happy Victoria Day!
It is the Victoria Day long weekend for the Canadians and out here on the West, if you're not going away camping, you are working in the garden ;)
Have a good one and drive safe if you're to be going away.
I have to work, but do have Monday off ;)
Happy Victoria Day weekend to everyone!!! I will be spending part of the weekend outside in my garden and part of the time in my shop as I have a woodworking project on the go right now (another large clock).:>)
We are off on Sunday to our daughters for my grandaughters birthday and a feast.
Hope everyone has a safe and happy weekend.
Cheers Al
I'll be busy trucking dirt and plantings lots this weekend, DH is going to work on the drainage ditches this weekend and try to get more dug. We'll see how much he does as a friend already phoned to see if he wanted to got fishing. Unfortunately the weekend starts off on a bad note. I'm leaving in an hour for our neighbours 17 year old sons memorial service. He was in a motorcross accident last weekend where another racer landed on him and broke his spinal cord. They airlifted him to Edmonton but they couldn't do anything to save him. On that note I'd better go get ready.
Yeah how awful Syreeta, sorry to hear it. I had to work today and DH works all weekend so no long weekend for us :0(
Tomorrow I am going over to help my neighbour with her garage sale - they're moving to BC. Sad, they were good neighbours. Oh well.
Thanks guys, the parents are having a really hard time with it. I don't know how his younger sister is doing. Then the neighbour behind us, well his son was best friends with the boy who died. He is taking it really hard. Kory (the boy who died), was really into the outdoors, he fished, hunted, camped, snowmobiled, rode his quad, you name it he did it. Well the parents and close friends all rode quads in a procession to where the memorial was being held. The parents were at the front of the line with both Grandfathers behind them. It was very touching.
To end on a happy note, I'll tell you a story they told about him yesterday that made me smile and laugh. Apparently his parents went away for the weekend and left him alone. Fishing season hadn't started yet and he really wanted to go fishing. So... him the other boy behind us figured out a way to fish. They found a really small hook, baited it with a piece of corn, dropped it in the water and waited. (The other boy was video taping the whole thing.) Guess what, he got a bite and caught a goldfish! The two of them were busy fishing in the fish tank in the livingroom! Which since they video tapped the whole thing and didn't erase it they were busted when my Mom and Dad came home and wondered where some of their fish were.


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New tree not budding, how long should I wait?
I planted some new fruit trees in January, bare root season came early this year, and all of them are showing signs of growth except for the Indian Free Peach. I pruned all of the trees severely after planting because I plan on espaliering them, but everything else is coping fine and pushing plenty of buds and leaves. How long should I wait for growth before I give up and plant another tree?
Is the trunk and limbs still green? I have an Anna Apple in that same boat. It's trunk is green. I just walked down the slope and checked and I see several little pink buds starting. I bet yours is alive too. Maybe the weather just needs to warm up a little.
There is a little bit of green at the base of each stub where a limb used to be, I was going to wait until it was all gone before making any drastic decisions. It's just a bit worrisome when one tree is so far behind the others, I wonder if Indian Free Peach is typically late to bud and leaf?


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Qatar Telecom (Qtel) will close its Virgin Mobile Services following an order from the country's regulator.
The ruling marks a victory for rival operator Vodafone Qatar , which had long argued Qtel's launch of Virgin-branded pre-paid services constituted a third service provider in Qatar and so violated the terms of Vodafone's license.
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In a separate statement, Qtel said it would comply with the ruling and will transfer its existing Virgin Mobile customers to Qtel-branded services. These customers will retain their existing balances and phone numbers, but will require a new Qtel SIM card. Virgin accounts must be deactivated by August 4.
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In May 2010, Virgin Group signed a partnership deal with Qtel to launch Virgin Mobile Qatar.
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Located in the heart of Pordenone, this hotel is within a 10-minute walk of Church of San Giorgio, Palazzo Ricchieri, and Cathedral of St. Mark. Santa Maria degli Angeli Hospital and Museo Archeologico del Friuli Occidentale are also within 2 mi (3 km).
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Best Western Park Hotel features a library, tour/ticket assistance, and multilingual staff. Event facilities measuring 1119 square feet (104 square meters) include a meeting room. A computer station is located on site and high-speed wired and wireless Internet access is complimentary. A bar/lounge is on site where guests can unwind with a drink. This Pordenone hotel also offers coffee/tea in the lobby, concierge services, and complimentary newspapers in the lobby. Parking is available onsite for a surcharge.
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Ideological fools at work
WASHINGTON : Led by Republican opposition, the Senate on Tuesday rejected a United Nations treaty on the rights of the disabled that is modeled after the landmark Americans with Disabilities Act.
With 38 Republicans casting "no" votes, the 61-38 vote fell five short of the two-thirds majority needed to ratify a treaty. The vote took place in an unusually solemn atmosphere, with senators sitting at their desks rather than milling around the podium. Former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, looking frail and in a wheelchair, was in the chamber to support the treaty.
The treaty, already signed by 155 nations and ratified by 126 countries, including Britain, France, Germany, China and Russia, states that nations should strive to assure that the disabled enjoy the same rights and fundamental freedoms as their fellow citizens. Republicans objected to taking up a treaty during the lame-duck session of the Congress and warned that the treaty could pose a threat to U.S. national sovereignty.
"I do not support the cumbersome regulations and potentially overzealous international organizations with anti-American biases that infringe upon American society," said Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla.
He and other opponents were not swayed by support for the treaty from some of the GOP's prominent veterans, including the 89-year-old Dole, who was disabled during World War II; Sen. John McCain, who also suffered disabling injuries in Vietnam; Sen. Dick Lugar, the top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee; and former Attorney General Dick Thornburgh. Eight Republicans voted to approve the treaty.
The treaty also was widely backed by the disabilities community and veterans groups.
White House press secretary Jay Carney called the vote disappointing and noted that President Barack Obama had declared, in a written statement read in tribute to Dole just before the vote, that "disability rights should not stop at our nation's shores."
Carney said the White House hopes the treaty can be reconsidered in the next Congress.
Democratic support for the convention was led by Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Sen. John Kerry, Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, one of the key players in writing the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act.
"It really isn't controversial," Kerry, D-Mass., said. "What this treaty says is very simple. It just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. It says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the Americans with Disabilities Act."
In a statement after the vote, Kerry said it was "one of the saddest days I've seen in almost 28 years in the Senate and it needs to be a wake-up call about a broken institution that's letting down the American people."
The ADA put the United States in the forefront of efforts to secure equal rights for the disabled, and it became the blueprint for the U.N. treaty, formally the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. The treaty was negotiated by the George W. Bush administration. It was completed in 2006 and Obama signed it in 2009.
The United Nations estimates that 650 million people around the world are disabled, about 10 percent of the world's population.
Kerry and other backers stressed that the treaty requires no changes in U.S. law, that a committee created by the treaty to make recommendations has no power to change laws and that the treaty cannot serve as a basis for a lawsuit in U.S. courts.
They said the treaty, by encouraging other countries to emulate the rights and facilities for the disabled already existing in the United States, would be of benefit for disabled Americans, particularly veterans, who want to work, travel or study abroad.
Supporters also rejected the argument that it was inappropriate to consider an international treaty in a post-election lame-duck session. They said that since the 1970s the Senate had voted to approve treaties 19 times during lame-duck sessions.
But in September, 36 Republican senators signed a letter saying they would not vote for any treaty during the lame duck,
The opposition was led by tea party favorite Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, who argued that the treaty by its very nature threatened U.S. sovereignty. Specifically he expressed concerns that the treaty could lead to the state, rather than parents, determining what was in the best interest of disabled children in such areas as home schooling, and that language in the treaty guaranteeing the disabled equal rights to reproductive health care could lead to abortions. Parents, Lee said, will "raise their children with the constant looming threat of state interference."
Supporters said such concerns were unfounded.
"I am frankly upset," said Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., "that they have succeeded in scaring the parents who home-school their children all over this country." He said he said his office had received dozens of calls from home-schooling parents urging him to vote against the convention.
The conservative Heritage Action for America urged senators to vote no against the treaty, saying it would be recorded as a key vote on their scorecard. It repeated the argument that the treaty "would erode the principles of American sovereignty and federalism."
Who voted against it:
Alexander (R-TN)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lee (R-UT)
McConnell (R-KY)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Here is a link that might be useful: I guess its because the disabled are
I agree with Bill. The United States has some the best protection for the disabled on the planet. The UN has no business eroding our sovereignty.
"Kerry and other backers stressed that the treaty requires no changes in U.S. law, that a committee created by the treaty to make recommendations has no power to change laws and that the treaty cannot serve as a basis for a lawsuit in U.S. courts. "
Well, duh, that's because you lose your rights to a US court and end up in an International court which supersedes our courts.
The Treaty that was negotiated by BUSH based on US law guaranteed not to be able to bring suit in a US court. DISRACEFUL Pack of frightened fools & I think they are frightened of folks like Bill tsk tsk!
Conservative media claim that signing the treaty would require the United States to alter its laws to meet these standards. Writing at National Review Online, the National Review Institute's Betsy Woodruff claimed that the treaty "could potentially undermine American sovereignty" and said it would be "self-abasing" for the U.S. "to comply with the treaty." Similarly, at the Daily Caller, Walter Olson of the Cato Institute equated signing the treaty with "sign[ing] away our national sovereignty on questions of how best to accommodate the disabled."
"However, these claims are baseless, as U.S. law already meets the standards the treaty requests. The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) "prohibits discrimination on the basis of disability in employment, State and local government, public accommodations, commercial facilities, transportation, and telecommunications." If a law, policy, or program is found to be discriminatory, the government has the power, through the Department of Justice, to enforce the ADA on both a private and public level. Thus signing the treaty would merely reaffirm the U.S. commitment to equal rights."!
Kee-rist, what a pack of immature fools. As if anyone older than 13 believes that the UN is some big scary monster going to come and take all our toys away. These are the same exceptionalist wankers who feel threatened when an American president can actually speak a foreign language or convey ideas greater than "me have big gun" with other heads of state.
I only wish words failed me.
"As if anyone older than 13 believes that the UN is some big scary monster going to come and take all our toys away. These are the same exceptionalist wankers who feel threatened when an American president can actually speak a foreign language or convey ideas greater than "me have big gun" with other heads of state.
I only wish words failed me."
Try a foreign language ;D
List of multilingual Presidents of the United States
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"Thomas Jefferson claimed to read and write six different languages. Of the 44 Presidents of the United States, at least half have displayed proficiency in speaking or writing a language other than English. Of these, only one, Martin Van Buren, learned English as his second language; his first language was Dutch. Four of the earliest Presidents were multi-lingual, with John Adams and Thomas Jefferson demonstrating proficiency in a number of foreign languages.
James A. Garfield not only knew Greek and Latin, but used his ambidexterity to write both at the same time. Both Roosevelts spoke French, and Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt spoke German. Few modern Presidents have spoken a foreign language. Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush displayed a limited ability in Spanish. Herbert Hoover spoke fluent Mandarin Chinese.
Barack Obama has famously admitted to being embarrassed that he does not speak a second language."
That's nice, Elvis.
Exactly what I was thinking, Bothell -- who on earth is going to be left represented by the GOP at this rate?
in September, 36 Republican senators signed a letter saying they would not vote for any treaty during the lame duck
And it's so gratifying to see that once again, some half-arsed secret handshake keeps our grand old party from actually representing their constituents before they even know what the treaties will be. And these are the very ones who trot out that old canard about Nancy Pelosi and reading the AHCA at every damned opportunity! A pox on them all, the oath-breaking cretins.
Some more of that ideology at work:
A wide-ranging bill to give hunters and fishermen more access to public lands stalled in the Senate Monday after Republicans said it spends too much money.
Republicans supported opening lands for outdoorsmen and many other provisions in the bill sponsored by Democratic Sen. Jon Tester, but GOP senators blocked the legislation on principle Monday evening in a mostly party-line procedural vote after Senate Budget Committee's top Republican, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, objected to spending on conservation programs included in the bill.
The sportsmen's bill would increase land access and allow hunters to bring home as trophies 41 polar bears killed in Canada before the government started protecting polar bears as a threatened species. The legislation would also exclude ammunition and tackle from federal environmental laws that regulate lead, allow bow hunters to cross federal land where hunting isn't allowed, encourage federal land agencies to help states maintain shooting ranges, boost fish populations and protect animal habitat.
Sessions said he supported the overall bill but objected to spending on conservation programs that he said violated budget rules. Democrats argued that the bill also raised money for those provisions.
The bill also faced some objections from environmental groups over the polar bear imports and exclusions from lead standards.
The lead provision threatens public health and the measures "could set back wildlife conservation efforts," said California Sen. Barbara Boxer, the Democratic chairwoman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, while acknowledging she supported other provisions in the bill. Boxer was the only Democrat to vote against moving the bill forward Monday.
Ammunition and tackle that contain lead are now unregulated under federal toxic substance laws, and the EPA has so far declined to regulate them. The bill would make it law that the Environmental Protection Agency could not regulate ammunition and tackle, leaving those decisions to states. Environmental groups opposing the exemption say that birds on land and water are killed by lead poisoning after eating the spent ammunition and fishing tackle.
The polar bear provision would allow the hunters - two from Tester's home state of Montana - who killed polar bears in Canada just before a 2008 ban on polar bear trophy imports took effect - to bring the bears' bodies across the border. The hunters involved were not able to bring the trophies home before the Fish and Wildlife Service listed them as a threatened species.
Some animal welfare groups, including of The Humane Society of the United States, say that allowing the polar bears bodies across the border could set a bad precedent and embolden other hunters to try and circumvent threatened or endangered species laws." End quote
So, on principal, the conservatives vote against conservation.
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America wrote the disability act. America proposed the treaty to the UN, an example of human rights. America led the formulation of the treaty. Just about every country in the world has signed it, but no, the ideologues in the US Senate block our own treaty.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) is a declaration adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1948 at Palais de Chaillot, Paris. The Declaration arose directly from the experience of the Second World War and represents the first global expression of rights to which all human beings are inherently entitled. It consists of 30 articles which have been elaborated in subsequent international treaties, regional human rights instruments, national constitutions and laws.
Included in those subsequent articles are the right to organize labor.
At the time, on all of these articles the US was a leader. My how times have changed. Now we're racing ourselves to the basement.
Best thing to do with the UN is send em packing.
The Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations. FAO's mandate is to raise levels of nutrition, improve agricultural productivity, better the lives of rural populations and contribute to the growth of the world economy.
I worked for these guys for years. Some idiots, some great, dedicated people, in general I'd say they've helped.
UNDP - United Nations Development Fund - funds projects from all agencies, helping with food supply, agriculture, medical stuff, anything that the really poor countries need help with. I used to get funding through these guys.
World Food Program. You know, helping those starving people. I used to help with that.
UNHCR - High Commissioner for Refugees. Helps all those people fleeing wars, famine, rape, torture, floods, fires, and so on. Come visit a refugee camp sometime. Rather that then letting them forge for themselves.
The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). Sets standards and recommends practices concerning air navigation, prevention of unlawful interference, and facilitation of border-crossing procedures for international civil aviation. Defines the protocols for air accident investigation.
So that when our commercial airlines fly places, its safe.
The International Labour Organization (ILO) deals with labour issues. Combatting slave labor in 3rd world countries.
The International Maritime Organization (IMO) coordinates international maritime safety and related practices. Which means that the ships sailing into US ports don't fall apart.
The International Telecommunication Union (ITU) standardizes and regulates international radio and telecommunications. Seems the benefits are obvious.
The Universal Postal Union (UPU) coordinates the worldwide postal system. Seems the benefits are obvious.
The World Health Organization (WHO) acts as a coordinating authority on international public health. The benefits are obvious.
The World Intellectual Property Organisation. (WIPO) Protection of intellectual property throughout the world. Makes pirating stuff illegal.
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO). Weather and climate, hydrology and related geophysical sciences. Standardizes stuff like temperature, flow rates, and so on.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) goes after the organization for scientific and technical cooperation with nuclear technology. It seeks to promote the peaceful use of nuclear energy and to inhibit its use for military purposes. Turns out they were right with Iraq, while Bush was wrong. And I'm sure that both North Korea and Iran wouldn't mind if the US just knocked on the door and asked to inspect their stuff.
The UN Criminal Court - where else would anybody try war crimes?
They do more stuff as well, some of it dumb to be sure. The UN is far from perfect, but a lot of the stuff they do is essential and would need to be replaced anyway.
WASHINGTON : Former Senator Bob Dole of Kansas sat slightly slumped in his wheelchair on the Senate floor on Tuesday, staring intently as Senator John Kerry gave his most impassioned speech all year, in defense of a United Nations treaty that would ban discrimination against people with disabilities.
Senators from both parties went to greet Mr. Dole, leaning in to hear his wispy reply, as he sat in support of the treaty, which would require that people with disabilities have the same general rights as those without disabilities. Several members took the unusual step of voting aye while seated at their desks, out of respect for Mr. Dole, 89, a Republican who was the majority leader.
Then, after Mr. Dole's wife, Elizabeth, rolled him off the floor, Republicans quietly voted down the treaty that the ailing Mr. Dole, recently released from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, so longed to see passed.
A majority of Republicans who voted against the treaty, which was modeled on the Americans With Disabilities Act, said they feared that it would infringe on American sovereignty.
Among their fears about the disabilities convention were that it would codify standards enumerated in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child - and therefore United Nations bureaucrats would be empowered to make decisions about the needs of disabled children - and that it could trump state laws concerning people with disabilities. Proponents of the bill said these concerns were unfounded.
The measure, which required two-thirds support for approval, failed on a vote of 61 to 38.
Mr. Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, his voice rising as senator after senator moved slowly into the chamber, rejected the concerns of Republicans and made a moral argument for approval of the treaty.
Mr. Dole, he said, had not come to the Senate floor "to advocate for the United Nations."
"He is here because he wants to know that other countries will come to treat the disabled as we do," he added.
Approval of the treaty, Mr. Kerry said, would demonstrate that "what we do here in the United States Senate matters." He added, "Don't let Senator Bob Dole down."
A handful of Republican senators voted for the measure, notably Senator John McCain of Arizona, in opposition to the other Arizona Republican, Senator Jon Kyl. The others who supported it were Senators Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, John Barrasso of Wyoming, Scott P. Brown of Massachusetts, Susan Collins and Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.
Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas praised the treaty in a news release with Mr. McCain in May but voted against it. Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi voted yes at the beginning of the roll call vote and then switched his vote to no. Calls to the offices of Mr. Moran and Mr. Cochran were not returned.
Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, said the measure would return to the Senate floor in the 113th Congress.
"It is a sad day when we cannot pass a treaty that simply brings the world up to the American standard for protecting people with disabilities because the Republican Party is in thrall to extremists and ideologues," he said in a statement.
Here is a link that might be useful: link
Good Rule of thumb if WND writes about it run the other way!
You'll not that the author has excluded the history of the treaty Republican & it's bipartisan beginnings. It's support by veterans groups & groups with disabilities.
What they proffer instead is rancorous fear mongering!
Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas praised the treaty in a news release with Mr. McCain in May but voted against it.
I wish I didn't have to be totally embarrassed by my elected Reps and Senators in D.C. so often.
In case you have forgotten, Senator Dole (former Republican Senate Majority Leader for MANY YEARS) was a KANSAS SENATOR. Kansas was proud to elect and re-elect Bob Dole every 6 years. They bragged about him and about how he had to struggle to overcome his war disability!
He returns to his former home in the Senate and what happens? The current Republican Senator from Kansas (Sen. Moran) toadies up to him and then turns his back on him, voting against the U.N. Disability proposal. It's bad enough that most of the other Republican Senators "forgot" who he was and how much he contributed to the Senate for decades, but that the Kansas Senator can't even remember who is the most famous Kansas politician in several decades to say the least is disgusting!
Being a Democrat from Kansas, I never voted for Bob Dole, but I am shocked at how this too, too RED STATE has turned its back on what used to be their "favorite son."
Something is definitely wrong with politics in 2012 when a highly deserving man like Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole receives more recognition and accolades from the Democratic Senator Kerry and his fellow Democrats than the Kansas Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole received from another (relatively unknown) Kansas Senator Moran and his fellow Republicans in the Senate.
(I didnt' vote for Sen. Moran either--in case you were wondering.)
Ron, yes, I voted several times for Senator Nancy Kassebaum. She was a fiscal conservative but a social moderate-liberal (she was moderately pro-choice on reproductive rights, for instance)--and one of the few women in the Senate in those days. (And a really nice, soft-spoken, and dignified person). I liked her a lot. In fact, she may be the last Kansas senator of either party that I have enthusiastically voted for. Everyone since then has been a loser in my book--but if Nancy were around the Senate today, the t-partiers would definitely kick her out and disown her. She was much too rational and moderate on a number of issues--and she definitely believed in working with other senators of both parties--she was NOT a JUST SAY NO type senator. I was sorry when she retired.
One of the few Republicans I have ever voted for.
Bill, the UN doesn't "dictate" policy. They start off with an issue - say radio frequencies that commercial airlines use to talk to towers around the world, the language the pilots speak on international flights (English) get all kinds of input from everybody, everybody agrees, then they sign an accord. Its not a binding accord where the black helicopters come invade if you don't follow it.
In this case, the US gvt passed our own Disabilities Act in Congress - the whole thing with accessible bathrooms, low curbs, elevators, etc. Then we proposed, in the UN, the law as a standard for the world to use. The UN went through their process of listening to everybody's concerns, made sure everyone was ok with it, minor tweaks here and there. What, everyone in the world except 5 countries have signed on.
Its a treaty supported by American military veterans in wheel chairs and on crutches so they can travel abroad, knowing that where ever they land, if the country signed the treaty, they'll be able to get around like they would here.
There is no 'dictating' here. Absolutely nothing happens if we sign it or not. And its further silly to refuse to sign it since we already have all the stuff in place and it was our law that was used as a model for everyone else. Refusing to ratify it just makes us look stupid.
If that's the case, why bother wasting the time or money to ratify a treaty which, according to you, we've not only met, but in places where other countries have "tweaked" it, we've surpassed the mandates required by the treaty? Why not spend the time doing something more productive, and less for show?
Well, to just ratify it, they already wasted the time voting it down.
If the question is why bother to have a treaty in the first place - that may have more to do with the countries around that haven't previously thought that disabled people had any rights at all. Sort of wakes them up to the idea, as it were, that just because you're in a wheel chair you're still a human being.
I kinda have a personal interest in this. I had to quit my over-seas consulting business when I was stuck in a wheel chair and then a walker. No way to get around in the places where I'd worked before.
Anyway, how about the "conservatives" voting down, on principal, the conservation legislation?
If that's the case, why bother wasting the time or money to ratify a treaty
Because the number of signers to the treaty signals that the issue of rights for the disabled has international support. If another signer country falls short in instituting reforms to ensure rights for the disabled, activists in that country can put pressure on their government citing international support for the issue. Also, the activists can appeal to the United Nations for support for their cause, and gain world attention. For example, in 1964 Malcolm X was planning to submit a petition to the United Nations that documented civil and human rights abuses against African Americans in this country. The U.S. was supposed to uphold the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but obviously fell short with regards to African Americans. (Malcolm X was assassinated before he was able to make his appeal.)
They're voting down giving the UN the authority to dictate and enforce that law.
As stated above @ 22:12, the U.S. should have been supporting the U.N.'s Universal Declaration of Human Rights and not allowing segregation and denial of basic civil and human rights to African Americans. I don't recall the U.N. dictating to the U.S. to integrate the schools and public institutions, or to allow citizens of all races to vote. If there ever was a policy that went against basic U.N. principles, Jim Crow was the prime example.
Bill, re conservatives voting down conservation, I was referring to the second example of ideology I posted above: A wide-ranging bill to give hunters and fishermen more access to public lands stalled in the Senate Monday after Republicans said it spends too much money.
Republicans supported opening lands for outdoorsmen and many other provisions in the bill sponsored by Democratic Sen. Jon Tester, but GOP senators blocked the legislation on principle Monday evening in a mostly party-line procedural vote after Senate Budget Committee's top Republican, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, objected to spending on conservation programs included in the bill.
Even though the legislation included fees that made it self-funding. Because even if it pays for itself, government is bad.
Gail Collins column:
Lately, you've probably been asking: "What ever happened to Rick Santorum? The guy who ran for president in the sweater vest? The one who compared homosexuality to bestiality and did 50 push-ups every morning?" It's certainly been on my mind.
Santorum is still in there swinging. Lately, he's been on a crusade against a dangerous attempt by the United Nations to help disabled people around the world. This week, he won! The Senate refused to ratify a U.N. treaty on the subject. The vote, which fell five short of the necessary two-thirds majority, came right after 89-year-old Bob Dole, the former Republican leader and disabled war veteran, was wheeled into the chamber to urge passage.
"We did it," Santorum tweeted in triumph.
Well, it doesn't get any better than that.
The rejected treaty, the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, is based on the Americans with Disabilities Act, the landmark law Dole co-sponsored. So, as Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts kept pointing out during the debate, this is a treaty to make the rest of the world behave more like the United States. But Santorum was upset about a section on children with disabilities that said: "The best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration."
"This is a direct assault on us and our family!" he said at a press conference in Washington.
The hard right has a thing about the United Nations. You may remember that the senator-elect from Texas, Ted Cruz, once railed that a 20-year-old nonbinding United Nations plan for sustainable development posed a clear and present threat to American golf courses.
The theory about the treaty on the disabled is that the bit about "best interests of the child" could be translated into laws prohibiting disabled children from being home-schooled. At his press conference, Santorum acknowledged that wasn't in the cards. But he theorized that someone might use the treaty in a lawsuit "and through the court system begin to deny parents the right to raise their children in conformity with what they believe."
If I felt you were actually going to worry about this, I would tell you that the Senate committee that approved the treaty included language specifically forbidding its use in court suits. But, instead, I will tell you about own my fears. Every day I take the subway to work, and I use a fare card that says "subject to applicable tariffs and conditions of use." What if one of those conditions is slave labor? Maybe the possibility of me being grabbed at the turnstile and carted off to a salt mine isn't in the specific law, but what if a bureaucrat somewhere in the Metropolitan Transportation Authority decided to interpret it that way?
No one should have to live in fear of forced labor in the salt mine just because she bought a fare card at the Times Square subway station! I want some action on this matter, and I am writing to my senator right away.
But about the U.N. treaty.
In the Capitol this week, disabled Americans lobbied for ratification, arguing, among other things, that it could make life easier for them when they travel. Since more than 125 countries have already signed onto the treaty, there will certainly be pressure to improve accessibility to buses, restrooms and public buildings around the globe. It would be nice if the United States was at the table, trying to make sure the international standards were compatible with the ones our disabled citizens learn to handle here at home.
But, no, the senators were worried about the home-school movement. Or a boilerplate mention in the treaty of economic, social and cultural rights that Senator Mike Lee of Utah claimed was "part of a march toward socialism."
At least some of them were. There would almost certainly have been plenty of votes to approve the treaty if the Republicans had felt free to think for themselves. The "no" votes included a senator who had voted for the treaty in committee, a senator who had sent out a press release supporting the treaty and a senator who actually voted "aye" and then switched when it was clear the treaty was going down anyway. Not to mention a lot of really depressed-looking legislators.
The big worry was, of course, offending the Tea Party. The same Tea Party that pounded Mitt Romney into the presidential candidate we came to know and reject over the past election season. The same Tea Party that keeps threatening to wage primaries against incumbents who don't do what they're told. The Tea Party who made those threats work so well in the last election that Indiana now has a totally unforeseen Democratic senator.
The threat the Republicans need to worry about isn't in the United Nations.
Here is a link that might be useful: link
I'll have to go read up, but if Alexander is against it, there's good reason. He wasn't just a fantastic governor, he's also a fantastic person. Solid thinking. I'm really wondering why not now? Dunno that I'd say that about Corker, but Alexander, he's fairly level-headed. Hm?
Ahhh, light dawns! I was googling around on this issue and stumbled across this article. Apparently, in someone's bizarre fabulistic world, this treaty would "open the door to promoting abortion on an international scale". Would never have believed this, but there it is in back and white: The International Right to Life Federation says pro-life groups oppose this legislation because it leaves open the potential for the international community to permit sterilization or abortion for the disabled. The terminology, found in Article 25, requires, "free or affordable health care including the area of sexual and reproductive health and population-based health programs."
Bradley Mattes, president of the International Right to Life Federation, stated, "This is a misleading measure in that it does nothing to protect life. It is disguised as a way to "help" the disabled. Instead it intentionally sacrifices the most vulnerable -- the disabled and the unborn -- all in the name of population control."
He continued, "Many don't realize that this international treaty could potentially supersede future attempts to overturn Roe v. Wade."
Here is a link that might be useful: U.S Senate Defeats CRPD Treaty That Would Promote Abortion
circuspeanut - I caught that in David's OP:
and that language in the treaty guaranteeing the disabled equal rights to reproductive health care could lead to abortions
Only the right wing nuts could turn this into a pro-life issue. It just boggles the mind!
Thus signing the treaty would merely reaffirm the U.S. commitment to equal rights
And the Republicans in Congress (and apparently some here) can't have that, can they? As they've proven over and over and over again. The party of hate.
What I don't get about the far right paranoia of the UN:
On the one hand, they are continually harping that the UN is a toothless, useless, bureaucratic bunch of corrupt idiots who can't pour water out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
On the other hand, they are sure, so convinced that the same UN is busy trampling all over freedom and sovereignty and forcing people to have abortions and taking away guns and using world heritage sites for secret bases for all the black helicopters all over the world, and its only their eternal vigilance that keeps these clever masterminds from imposing one-world-order, going house to house confiscating guns and performing abortions here in America.
I sure hope that Senator Reid can change the rules of the Senate come January. Now if we can just do something about the House of Representatives, but we'll have to wait two years for that and cross our fingers. They sure don't represent the majority of the American people. They have no sensitivity for their fellow humans.
The Americans with Disabilities Act HURT americans with disabilities. It did not help them. When employers know that they can't fire people without fear of getting sued, they invent all sorts of reasons to not hire them.
This is so the problem with liberal thinking. They never ask "what happens next?" Will this policy really do what we want it to do? or will it have unintended consequences that will actually hurt the very people we are trying to help?
Yes it feels good to pass a law like the ADA, but we need to put our feelings on the shelf and first discern whether any given law will really help.
Dismantling the federal government is not my goal. While I believe States have rights, I do not believe that State's rights should in many, even in most, cases prevail over the federal govt. I always remember that if State's rights had prevailed as the ultimate power in our country, slavery would still be legal and racial integration and a host of Jim Crow laws would be the laws of our land.
I see no special wisdom residing at the State level. It is the same mixture of wisdom, folly, stupidity, ego, and power drives as are found at every other level of government--whether it be the city council or Congress.
First, buried in your question is the assumption that if I am not disabled, I can't understand the difference between good and bad policies for the ADA. That makes great sense. It goes to the bottom of the liberal problem...they pass laws that feel good, but they never ask "what happens next?"
Second, according to the ADA, we are all disabled. Their defn of "disability" is so vague, that anyone can conjure up something. My wife could probably list a dozen disabilities that I suffer from. :)
John Stossell loves to blow the cover on stuff like this. Here is his expose of the ADA:
@jodik your reasoning here is classic liberalism. if someone opposes the ADA, then they must not be disabled. If one opposes gay marriage, he must be anti-gay, if one opposes amnesty, he must be xenophobic, etc. etc. It's about 4th grade level reasoning (apologies to all 4th graders).
nancy_in_venice_ca brings us more classical liberal evasions. if you disagree with someone's analysis, just call into question the integrity of the source. This is actually a well-known informal logical fallacy that people learn in intro to logic. Poison the well.
It seems to me you have two options. Either disagree with my facts and show me how they are incorrect. Or concede that my facts are correct and show me how my analysis is wrong.
I realize it's much easier to just yell but...intelligent people see thru that. :)
A source is simply that a source. Just because one can link to an internet source that supports their position matters squat. It's the validity of the data that matters.
For example stating 70% of Federal spending is on welfare is factually incorrect but , as we have seen today, I can link you to a site that says it is so.
Opinion vs fact....some tend to confuse the two.
Posted by cornopean none (My Page) on
Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 12:51
nancy_in_venice_ca brings us more classical liberal evasions. if you disagree with someone's analysis, just call into question the integrity of the source. This is actually a well-known informal logical fallacy that people learn in intro to logic. Poison the well.
Welcome to the forum, cornopean.
And welcome to diversion, attacking the source, and name calling when the liberals have absolutely nothing to say in response to your points.
Your point of view has obviously gotten under the skin of some as you've already been called names--"bigoted and idiotic" and "wingnut echo chamber"--how'd you like those insults? Of course you strike me as someone logical and not emotional and someone that does not need to personally insult people to make a point.
Here are some of the Rules for Radicals favored by Saul Alinsky Soldiers on this forum when they are devoid of a cogent response:
RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
RULE 12: "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
--Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals (1971)
Ah - another county heard from.
To quote Bill Maher, "who the f--- is Saul Alinsky?" I'd never heard of him until right-wing forum members here started quoting him right and left. Never dreamed that so many folks were acquainted with the minutiae of the American labor movement in the 1940s -- almost makes me hopeful for the US educational system again.
Here is a link that might be useful: Who the heck is Saul Alinsky?
Of course, you can call into question the integrity of a source, but please don't confuse that with a rebuttal. An argument isn't defeated by calling into question someone's integrity.
In order to rebut an argument, you must either show the inaccuracy of the facts or rebut the analysis given of those facts. Those are the only two options.
John Stossel and the Washington Examiner. What splendid sources. Demi and mrsk should be happy to have another winger join them.
Guys ,the election was over a month ago, and guess what? We won which means over half the country disagrees with you.
Not at all sure how you define Welfare but at least this chart spells out what is in each of the categories. If one defines welfare as those services which go to help the needy the answer is 13%.
Personally I think it may be reasonable to include Medicaid. By this chart that would be 13% in social services and 7% in Medicaid.
Here is a link that might be useful: How are tax dollars spent
A big piece of Medicaid goes to elderly people who've outlived their savings.
"Though former President Bill Clinton overstated in his convention speech on Wednesday how much Medicaid spends on the elderly in nursing homes - they account for well under a third, not nearly two-thirds, of spending - Medicaid spends more than five times as much on each senior in long-term care as it does on each poor child, and even more per person on the disabled in long-term care."
Why do the teabaggers want to throw granny and the disabled under the bus? Are they purging the population?
Here is a link that might be useful: link
Well cripes David it is not like they are productive members of society, why should we spend taxpayer money on people who just refuse to die and/or be born less than perfect ??
There are drones to be built and countries to bomb!! Yeah warfare not welfare!!
Throw em' out with the bath water....
The only reason I said that I felt Medicaid could be lumped in with total "welfare" spending is because medical services are provided, by the government, to those who cannot afford it. Those who can afford it must pay their own so by default, in the States, Medicaid is a form of welfare.
I actually don't consider healthcare spending, including extended care, as welfare. I believe it is a basic human right that should be available equally to all. The notion that it is paid for some, and not others, appalls me.
Why do the teabaggers want to throw granny and the disabled under the bus?
Oh, David, haven't you been paying attention? It's because granny and the disabled are just lazy moochers. In other words, the infamous "takers". If they weren't such lazy, moocher, takers, they would have saved enough money to not rely on the conservatives to have to take care of them. Because, if you've been paying attention here, you would know that liberals are all moochers and don't actually pay taxes. Make sense now?
Posted by cornopean none (My Page) on Sat, Dec 8, 12 at 20:52
"Of course, you can call into question the integrity of a source, but please don't confuse that with a rebuttal. An argument isn't defeated by calling into question someone's integrity.
In order to rebut an argument, you must either show the inaccuracy of the facts or rebut the analysis given of those facts. Those are the only two options."
What an idea! Actually, we already have a few bright things like you, Corn: David, Marshall, and Rob come to mind. This is nice; thank you for showing up. So far, anyway. ;)
Posted by jillinnj (My Page) on
Sun, Dec 9, 12 at 17:35
"Because, if you've been paying attention here, you would know that liberals are all moochers and don't actually pay taxes. Make sense now?"
Who said that, jillinnj?
I have never seen anyone here post that, I've never heard anyone say that--I know of no one that thinks that or believes that.
So why do you say that? Why do you say, "make sense now?"
YOUR post makes no sense.
Satire and parody frequently involve exaggeration as a means of emphasizing a point and rendering it ridiculous by overstating it.
A very common, everyday technique.
Literalists will, of course, be confused by it, perhaps even totally misunderstand such statements.
Demi, it is said over and over that liberals want to give away the shirt off someone else's back, that they want to take other peoples money and give it away...the inference being none of that tax money is theirs.
You don't have to accept the fact that is the way it comes across. You can blame everyone for interpreting it incorrectly but that's how it comes across to me and many others.
What I find most interesting about Denis post is I wasn't talking to Demi. Yet she replied to my post directly. Hmmmm......
And of course since we all misunderstood her (yeah, right) it couldn't possibly be Demi's fault. It couldn't possibly be the way she expresses things. Nope. It's the rest of us.
Posted by jillinnj (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 8:52
What I find most interesting about Denis post is I wasn't talking to Demi. Yet she replied to my post directly. Hmmmm......
Gee, I seem to remember several lectures from you recently about your right to respond to my posts (which you weren't actually doing, you were telling me what you thought about my posts and insulting me, but I digress).
I had an opinion about what you posted.
I responded.
That's what we do here jillinnj.
Some of us actually do respond to posts and don't spend our time following around posters making personal insults.
Live with it, jillinnj.
Try and practice what you preach.
Chase, no one on this forum, to my knowledge, has ever said that liberals don't pay taxes.
I do know that conservatives give more in charity than liberals--I never met a liberal than wasn't more interested in my charity than his own.
Let's see, Chase--how many conservatives do you see here telling liberals they don't give enough and are selfish?
How many liberals here have you seen tell conservagives they don't give enough and are selfish?
I've met enough liberals.
I have them in my family.
Don't tell me about liberals.
"how many conservatives do you see here telling liberals they don't give enough and are selfish?"
Liberals have been accused here often of not giving enough...always being takers. Deny all you want...changes nothing.
"Don't tell me about liberals"
What would be the point...
You know you're in lala-loony land when the talk turns to what libruls think and believe, told to us by non-libruls.
They don't realize just how foolish they sound. Since we're talking about stereotypes and belief systems, maybe if they substituted Jews, or Catholics, or Hindus or some other religion of their own, and started spewing out how much they know about them, they'd realize how dumb it sounds.
"I know what Jews think. I have a couple in my family"
This post was edited by david52 on Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 10:59
You know you're in lala-loony land when the talk turns to what libruls think and believe, told to us by non-libruls.
To be fair, it works both ways.
These forums are filled with posts about what conservatives think and believe... as told by non-conservatives.
These forums are filled with posts about what conservatives think and believe... as told by non-conservatives.
Maybe I've missed it, but I don't remember statements like: "I know how conservatives think" .... "Typical conservative evasion tactics" ........ "All you conservatives ever think of is keeping your money to yourself". and so on.
Happy to be proven wrong, of course.
Oh, good, demi. It seems you finally understand that we are all entitled to reply to any posts we like, regardless of whether they were directed to us or not.
I hope that means there will be no more of the I wasn't addressing you rants from you.
And, yes, we should all practice what we preach. I will take that to mean you will start doing that from now on.
Posted by jillinnj (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 10, 12 at 13:47
Oh, good, demi. It seems you finally understand that we are all entitled to reply to any posts we like, regardless of whether they were directed to us or not.
I hope that means there will be no more of the I wasn't addressing you rants from you.
And, yes, we should all practice what we preach. I will take that to mean you will start doing that from now on.
I see you are determined to fight windmills.
Have fun.