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I read all that I need to include with my picture so here goes:
About the plan: Where the colums are by the dining room is where the existing house ends. The rest is an addition. The columns donâÂÂt have to be there we can do TGIâÂÂs apparently to get rid of those.
There the fireplace is, that is East,
There the dining room is that is North.
Pantry will be switched with the door East of it. That door leads to the mud room - which is sort of âÂÂin the garageâÂÂ
What we want :
Bright kitchen
A walk in pantry ��" donâÂÂt care where
We drink tea, and lots of different herbs
Big nice hood and vent over cooktop
Single bowl sink
No microwave
What we donâÂÂt mind having :
Baking center, lowered counter?
Maybe a warming drawer ��" if it actually works like some say or if it dries the food out
I donâÂÂt necessarily have to have seating in the island
I really like clean counter spaces so the sink under the window breaks that, but also will look cluttered when I have dishes drying and pots in the sink ( AND I WILL)
I thought of putting the sink next to the fridge instead. A friend of mine said she doesnâÂÂt like herâÂÂs under the window as she gets splashes and itâÂÂs a pain. On the other hand do I want to be looking at a wall? (I do now ��" I guess I donâÂÂt mind it too much)
I will have a second sink in the island
I donâÂÂt have to have an island, but do think it looks nicer than a peninsula sometimes
I want room for children (currently have a 2 yr old but planning on much more)
I want to prep food and see my children at the same time.
I like to cook with my husband when we have the time and energy, but want to be able to cook with my kids in the future so that they learn by doing.
WE cook a lot ��" not every meal is hot but mostly everything is made from scratch
Kitchen is VERY important. We want the kitchen to be everything.
We wanted one table ��" for we feared there will be a âÂÂdining tableâ that is never used
(we currently have that and nobody wants to use it and they all squeeze in on our kitchen table and say it is âÂÂcozyâ ��" though the dining room is not in the best position ��" that may be why
So we want that table to be used and I think that it is in a good spot for both formal and everyday meals
This is currently an open floor plan, but I just wanted the rooms to be connected somehow so you feel together with everyone in the three rooms (diing, family and kitchen) I actually like the bump out of the family room, makes it more âÂÂcozyâÂÂ
Do you gather I like âÂÂcozy?âÂÂ
I did also want to add that the architect suggested making the island longer, but then I thought it would be odd looking at my oven when I work and not at my family room.
Moving the sink would give me a second prep in front of the window for when the kids are outside.
This might work out a little bit different than you are seeing in your head. Because of the water, you're likely to end up trying to work between the sink and the cooktop. The island shape and the oven location are a little bit freaky for me as it looks like the oven is in a hallway with the closest water coming from the powder room? I also got this thing about people's chairs backing up into a post.
Drawing below puts the main working area where I think you'd like it - facing the family room and dining room. But also available is at least one side of the cooktop if you have a crowd or as extra space for cooling racks.
You can lower either one side of the island. If I was, ahh, height-challenged or did a lot of home baking, I'd do that. The other place that could be lowered is one side of the cooktop. I think that would be my choice.
Switching the pantry and the mudroom entrance would be excellent!
So, this is meant as a concept idea, not a full boat plan. The hallway run is partly a hutch and partly a beverage center and partly a buffet - slightly away from the kitchen, but still central and easily accessed by family on a daily basis and guests. If you entertain a lot, I might go ahead with a bar sink there.
For you, I would suggest taking a look at one of the big sinks - either an orca or a full size stages. They each have some unique prep advantages as well as the ability to hide a ton of pots.
Like bmore, I am really concerned about the (lack of) distance between sink and range in your plan. This is the most valuable piece of real estate in your home. You have got to find a way to make it bigger. Can you make the addition longer but narrower? If so, you could put the range on the refrigerator wall.
Bmorepanic - the posts will not be there and I wanted a secondary sink (for prep) I looked into the stages sinnk I beliece and it is horribly expensive. I thought having two would work out better
Angie, - I can make the kitchen longer and narrower, but that will lake away a bit from the nook the fireplace is in :(
I am very frustrated at this kitchen and the very fact that it is the last piece that does not fit right --- and as with last pieces, might not fit ever :(
Newhome- I like your kitchen. If you want a prep sink, why not change the shape of the island and do something like this? Nice baking area, too :)
I just saw you didn't want to look at the oven wall, but maybe splurge on a marble countertop over there for baking. Add a really pretty backsplash and looking at the oven wall will not be too bad. Of course, you'll be talking to the kids/hubby across from you while you're working at the island...and there should be room for a third stool, if necessary :)
You're constructing 4 corners for this addition if you note the outline from the exterior. Each access point[outside mudroom,outside kitchen windows,outside family room windows] has a barrier because the exterior walls keeping cutting off the sections. Unwise. Pull the fireplace or far wall of the family room in some feet and make one long wall of construction left to right across back of house....extend some to the right as well/move mudroom door over .The frig wall in kitchen will be longer..the kitchen is positioned furthur to the right and up a bit. then take whatever you have on powder room wall into your longer kitchen wall runs and ... Omit cabinetry entirely on powder room wall which enables island to be turned so it runs longer top to bottom in the space-more seating capacity.
Sorry, I don't understand how my idea to make the kitchen longer but narrower would affect the fireplace?
To create more space between cooktop and sink, I would move the Refr. wall closer to the Family Room, and move the cooktop wall up (East, I believe). This makes the room longer and narrower, and allows you to put the cooktop on what is now the fridge wall.
Newhome- East light is wonderful for a kitchen! It means it will be bright and sunny, first thing in the morning :)
How about something like this? Your original plan, just moving around the appliances a bit...
Too many bumps and jogs in the foundation. That, along with the large open space with no interior walls for support (and you say no posts) will make this a darn expensive build. I'd reconsider the entire layout. First start by squaring up things. Then look at the layout with the idea that you don't want to go longer than about 18' without a post or internal wall to support the roof. Partitioning a large open space into distinct uses through architecture actually makes the room work better and seem bigger at the same time.
Thank you all for your responses....greatly appreciated
herbflavor _ I'm not sure what you mean by: Each access point[outside mudroom,outside kitchen windows,outside family room windows] has a barrier because the exterior walls keeping cutting off the sections.
Unfortunatelly mudroom cannot be moved over, however, teh current enterance to the mudroom will actually be an enterance to the pantry (actually in the mudroom so to speak. teh mudroom is enclosed in the garage)
I did consider making that back wall even, but one issue I had with that: the family room might not be as cosy as it is right now with that bumpout. Maybe I'm wrong, I have a hard time visualizing all these changes
Angie: I meant that the fireplace got cut off in my scan of the plan and didn't make it in the picture I posted.
If you would put the cooktop on the ref wall, where would you put teh ref.?
Levender _las - I love the big window. I just want to make sure I don't have my back to it an make a shadow :(
In your proposed plan: you don't think the fridge will be too far out of the way?
Green designs: Yes, the no post idea will be $$,
I don' mind reconsidering the whole layout............I just don't know how. I feel like I have speant my last month hunched over this and not much progress beyond some minor changes in other areas of the house........but the kitchen....eh...big, big, but does not seem practical for me :(
I think this is the best the archetect could come up with. He wanted the mud room enterence to be by the kitchen so I don't have to crosss an obstacle course with the groceries.
This is the part I have trouble understanding:
Angie, - I can make the kitchen longer and narrower, but that will lake away a bit from the nook the fireplace is in :(
WHY does making the kitchen a different shape affect the fireplace nook?
If you would put the cooktop on the ref wall, where would you put teh ref.?
I would leave the refrigerator on the same wall it is now, along with the cooktop. This would be possible because that wall would be longer (as described in my post of 14:59).
I also want to note that I think Lavender Lass's latest effort (15:24) would work.
Thanks, Angie :)
Newhome- I think the fridge would work well there...in fact, in would be closer to the family room, for quick drinks during commercials!
I'm still 'voting' for marble at the baking area...it would also make a great serving space when you entertain, since it's so close to the dining room.
I'm pretty sure what herb means is that the staggered back likely cuts off the flow of light to the kitchen windows as well as views.
Adding greendesigns comments, quite possibly reducing the kinks and complexity of the exterior walls may pay for adding more floor space. Fewer exterior corners and jogs cost less.
Part of the confusion for me is that its not at all clear which part is addition and which part is existing. Does the long-dashed line across the family room represent the addition?
I haven't responded for a long time adn I am sorry :( But have made some changes in the kitchen layout.....though have yet to discover how to change the HOME layout.
I was thinking of flipping the island so that the seating is on the other side. If I do that I benefit from the great window view as well as the sight of my kids in the family room....and i guess outside too. However, I'm wondering if that island layout would be weird.
As far as the corners on the addition. I finally understand about the light.....:)
What I meant about the family room is that it has a bumpout, and if I make the kitchen longer (or pull the family room in) I am not having that nook by the fireplace anymore. I feel that that is making the room cozy. Though this is an opend floor plan, I am aiming for it to be a "semi open" where the rooms are nicely connected - as opposed to just being one room. (The dining area has a sort of nook or its own)
Please let me know if what I am saying does not make sense. I don't have a great ability to imagie what all these scetches will look like in reality and maybe my thoughts are wrong.
Thanks for all your help.
I think you should start over with a blank slate. Post the existing space without any potential additions. At a minimum, I'd move the kitchen wall out to be even with the family room and start there with the space. It will simplify the rooflines and foundations and give you a cheaper box to figure out where to put the puzzle pieces in the interior.
I really like live wire oak's suggestion. It will be interesting to see what people who know MUCH more than I do suggest about additions.
Do include considerations like sloping land, views, irreplaceable trees, or whatever that might constrain your extension.
Best luck with this fun and challenging project.
I talked to my architect who said that the layout we have, (the general layout) is the best that we can do with this size house. Now i didn't post the whole house (maybe I should, in a different area besides kitchen?)
That being said, we made some slight changes to the kitchen and we will have that plan tomorrow....which I can post.
Since I cannot come up with a better plan, and my architect tells me that is the best we can do I don't know what choice I have. :( Maybe I can post the shell of the house on the remodeling forum, I don't know.
But like I said, I will post what we have so far with the changes.


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Over the holidays I picked up a 9mm very cheap as I had a bunch of ammo and no gun to shoot it. It's an FNP 9M (the compact model) and it was like new with box & papers and 3 factory mags. Reminds me a bit of a Sig with the external hammer and DA/SA with decocker. Seems well built and is very comfortable in the hand. Will try to get some range time with it this week and also take some pix. I stole this pic from the web...
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Sounds like a solid purchase. May I ask what the cost was? I've still got 5-600 rds of 9mm I hung on when I got rid of my XD.
If the pain is lacking so is the discipline...
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Took it to the range this afternoon and ran a quick box thru it. Performed perfectly and it shot to POA at 10 yards. Size wise, it's just slightly smaller than my XD .45 Compact. While I'm still not a fan of DA/SA, the single action trigger of this one ain't to bad...
FN makes quality firearms. I don't think you can go wrong with it.
FN make great pistols. You got a great deal and a great gun.
You will also get use to the DA/SA and decocker. I don't have any that aren't


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U2 spent the 90s either in a war with Negativland, or marketing themselves as a celebration of, spoof of, critique of, and source of rampant consumption and multimedia force-feeding. No one in the 90s thought of warplanes when they heard the name U2; they thought it referred to the band's exponential unit-shiftin'. Having a remotely acronymic name put U2 in good company in the eighties (REM, XTC, PIL, INXS), while the 90s saw the proliferation of TLC, KFC and AIDS. So I can hardly blame U2 for becoming a satire of U2, then a lite-techno version of U2, only to emerge in 2000 as a U2 tribute band. As if the band internalized the poet Wallace Stevens' line, "We have been a little insane about the truth," U2 flagrantly tested the elasticity of their sound, appearance, attitude, and fanbase.
One thing the band hasn't dicked around with is how many ways they'll grub for your filthy lucre, releasing, as is well within the rights of any band this huge, a zillion different nation-specific versions of their singles, and even several different limited import versions of this comp: There's a bonus-track edition with "The Fly", a Japanese set with 31 tracks, and another two-disc version including a DVD and many of the one-disc version's curious absentees, albeit in B-side (sigh) remixed form. Best of luck to any stormchasers who want to pay shipping for all that; I'll stick to discussing the 16-track version you're most likely to find at Wal-Mart or Jaded Colonel's Aging Towny Discs and Vinyl.
If'n I was an exec at the band's label, I'd have recommended wide-releasing a two-disc lookbackamajig rather than equitably represent the lesser material. Simply repackage the gorgeous Achtung Baby as The Best of 1990-2000, and then include a bonus disc anthologizing high points from their other recent records, entitled either a) the humbling Things We Dropped Along the Way, b) the 80s-linking Still Haven't Found What We're Looking For, c) the Clinton-nodding Mistakes Were Made, or d) the spiritual When There Were Only Two Sets of Footprints, That's When the Rhythm Section Was Carrying Us.
By now you've no doubt heard the limerick (apropos for this Irish quartet) so popular with sixth graders who, preferring to blame the man who made PJ Harvey boring, overlook the work of sirs Eno, Lanois, and Orbit:
There once was a band named U2,
Who ruled and then mightily blew.
When asked, "Hey, what happened?"
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Flood had someone remix their pooh.
But there's something interesting about U2's willingness to endlessly reconfigure their recent songs. Either they're admitting that the quality of their output has declined and is no longer utterly singular, or they're admitting that they're tired of operating under the weight of having their work regarded as so damn canonical. The band definitely, and consciously, shed its sacrosanctity in the 90s, and it's fitting that one of this collection's brand new songs appears in a remix version, while the "original" is relegated to a B-side of one the many versions of its remix's single, as if the band disdained it. Maybe all the tinkering is an attempt to circumvent how the populist, but diluting, dance touches of Zooropa and Pop date themselves.
That new song, "Electrical Storm", is a fine one for this version of U2, which means that it plays like a funkier, happier, more colossally passionate Coldplay/Radiohead hybrid. "Electrical Storm" also brings up the quandary of why two songs from 2002 are on a collection that's supposed to be an honest-to-goodness decade-spanner. Please tell me these tunes weren't tossed together unscrupulously in order to spice this November release up for that clusterfucked "holiday" that blends druids and messiahs and credit limits and gorging on mall foodcourt slurry. The other brand new tune on 1990-2000 is the theme from Gangs of New York, Scorsese's ambitious film about a magician's rivalry with a younger version of the cowardly lion of Oz for the heart of a transvestite, set against the backdrop of the riots that almost destroyed the Muppet Christmas Carol soundstage. Instead of living up to the film's gleeful taste for swindle and skullduggery, the song, "The Hands That Built America", is a woozy wedge of that empty grandeur that plagued the band's return to seriousness on 2000's All That You Can't Leave Behind. See that album's pre-9-11 "New York", or the band's 9-11 tribute during the tragedy's subsequent Super Bowl. The band's heart is in the right place, but in that heart/place lie stupid songs. With the heavy-handed "Hands", U2 have finally penned their answer to "This Used to Be My Greyhound", or whatever that Madonna song was a commercial for.
Another way "Hands" sucks is that it pillages the cool operatic moment from "Miss Sarajevo", a song otherwise a pillage of a Velvet Underground chorus and a pillage of The Byrds' pillage of Ecclesiastes, from U2's clever Passengers project, a record of songs for fictional movies that worked as a tongue-in-cheek statement about how good the movies have been to U2, a band whose image and tours have always seemed larger than life. Even the videotaped footage of the indignant Bono goose-stepping through "Sunday Bloody Sunday" was somehow cinematic in scope, and made their later film Rattle and Hum a no-brainer. One prays that an Imax feature isn't looming if U2 devolves into the Stones. In addition to the Gangs theme, and the Pavarotti-sampling film-fake "Sarajevo", this disc features soundtrack work from Wim Wenders' Until the End of the World and Batman Forever (U2's song is, of course, their orchestral-rock action-franchise counterpart to McCartney's Bond-anthem "Live and Let Die"). Curiously absent are U2's songs from the bad Wim Wenders remake City of Angels and the bad Wim Wenders original Million Dollar Hotel. And hey, where's Adam Clayton's solo version of the Mission: Impossible theme? J'accuse!
Okay, so Achtung is criminally under- and misrepresented. You do get "One", which Johnny Cash did better on his Solitary Man. (Where's the Cash-sung Zooropa oddity "The Wanderer"? I'd prefer that to the questionable half-rap of-- a new mix of!-- "Numb".) The problem with U2's "One" is that the pimpy music never sounds as despondent as the lyrics, like how critics charged Billy Bob Thornton's character in The Man Who Wasn't There with looking too suave to be believably pathetic. To U2's version I picture white people in their apartments clutching wine glasses, unbuttoning the top button of Gap shirts and giving each other come-hither looks. Cash's cover invokes an image of an epic judgment day for a planet festering with failed lovers.
I can't get past how the verse part of "Gone" (new mix!) recalls The Beatles' "Taxman". And the redundantly titled "Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of" is one of those positive advice songs that flow from Bono when he's in his Christian altar-ego. "Beautiful Day" is the best of these, and its Edge bombast can transform quarter-beer night at the bowling alley into a precipice of gladiatorial triumph, the way the melodrama of "Pride (In the Name of Love)" can leave patrons of a diner that used to be a Shoney's agog. While "Discotheque" (new mix!) is still unforgivable, "Stay (Faraway So Close)" is still a great pop song, even as it sounds like U2 doing Sebadoh doing the Smiths. The sassy "Staring at the Sun" (new mix!) even kind of kicks ass.
But oh well. This CD is for the fairweather fans who can afford the good seats at U2 shows; it's a coarse chronicle of a band inarguably masterful at creating four-minute forty-second atmospheres in which Bono pants and prolongs his falsetto triple-threat of "heeeee," "hooooo," and "hiiiiii." Are the buffalo adorning the packaging an activist reference to whitey's waste of these animals that the Native Americans handled more efficiently and reverently, or is the band joking about being bloated and on the edge of extinction? These songs were designed to keep us warm in our cubicles, to prevent us from leaping from dorm windows or attempting to mate with vending machines. Like too much of the entertainment from 1990-2000, this disc contains beautifully recorded, and expertly executed, piffle.
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Information on an old Troybilt Super Tomahawk...
A friend of mine has an old Troybilt (Super Tomahawk) chipper/shredder. He is looking for a manual or somewhere that might sell old parts. He's not interested in new, he's pretty happy with the one he has, he just can't find the parts he needs.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
P.S. I just got a Mackissic...gotta' love it!
I have a TB Super Tomahawk. I'll see if I can learn how to scan text and send it to you. Send an e-mail address to email@example.com. I wish I had the Mackissic; I'm not too happy with mine. By the way, have you looked at Troy-Bilt's web site: they may have all that you need.
Thanks Norm,
My mail address is firstname.lastname@example.com...if you could scan the manual or whatever you have, that would be great. I do believe that he's looked into the website, with little success.
Yea, I got the Mackissic a few days ago. The summers are very dry here, ordinarily, but since I got the Chipper it's been either snowing or raining. Hopefully I'll be able to use it more next week.
Troy-Bilt does not exist anymore. The company went out of business and the trademark was purchased by MTD products inc. From what I have heard, they have 'orphaned' all of the old Troy-Bilt equipment. I.e. you can't get parts from them anymore. I'm not sure if there are any other companies making parts for them.
Yea, it was just a shot in the dark... I guess there's a belt on his machine that needs to be replaced. He tried some belts for automobiles, but the belt he needs is titanium...? I wonder if there's another company that may have the same belt for their chipper...been doing some research, nothing so far.
Thanks for the response...Happy chipping and shredding :)
Automotive belts won't cut it,or chip-it per se....you need a "Power transmission" belt .....up in Vt they are available at stores that sell bearings .....are you sure he didn't need a "kevlar" belt????, titanium is metal ????
If memeory serves me correctly ,the belt can range in size and when the PTO pulley is adjusted correctly it should work well ,BUT you need to engage the belt rather slowly ,to get the frails and flyweight rotating ,once at proper speed ,the belt finally gets locked into place !
I own a Troybuilt super tomahawk chipper/shredder, bought it off Ebay for 1/3 the price of new, was close enough to pick up vs shipping, Does a great job for making chips for mulch. Just put on the chainsaw helmet for hearing protection and to catch stuff that gets thrown out. The belt that fits mine is an industrial B-27, which can be had in kevlar, I just try to let mine spin up then lock it down and start feeding it, haven't bought the kevlar yet just use the regular one. have probably chipped 10 pick up truck loads of limbs used maybe 3 belts @ less than $10 apiece, 2-3" no problem, but 2" is the best size anything much bigger works for bonfires
I was just given (how nice) a Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder Model 11088 and my neighbor got it running for me. Problem is that perhaps some parts are missing (like a top hopper and perhaps a piece that attaches to the bottom to control flow of mulch). Any help would be greatly appreciated - I noticed a couple of you discussing the possibility of having a manual copied and I would love a picture to see if there are any parts missing (visibly noticeable at least). Please help! I don't even know what year model it is...
Thanks for all of your replies. I'm going to forward the information you've provided me. I had a feeling that if I could find out some information anywhere, it would be here. I did me kevlar and not titanium...if I were blond at least I could say I was having a blond moment and if I were older I could say I was having a senior moment, however I am neither...so I guess I don't have much to say about that.
You guys are great...Thanks again.
Well, after much research on the web, I did find more information on the Model 11088 Tomahawk IV that includes diagrams and a parts/order list. The on-line printable diagrams are found at:
I have a T B Shipper Shredder Mod No 11388 and I can take pictures with a digital Camera and send them on E-Mail I also don't know how old it is and no book my E-Mail should be on here Mine has side feed for 2" limbs and a 7or 8" hole for twigs and leaves thick rubber guard stops fingers if I ain't watching I also would like a manual if some one can but it on a disc I will pay shipping and nomanial fee
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Can anyone tell me what the diameter of the holes are in the discharge plate on the Super Tomahawk?
I've learned that if the holes are smaller than 1.25-1.50 they will clog with damp leaves. The larger holes in the plate will even allow you to mix dirt.
hmmmm ... maybe I will learn how to post if I keep at it.
I have a old 8 hp Tomahawk. Bought it new and have used the heck out of it. Sand in my area is tough on this equipment. Wet leaves - forget about it. If you insist, use the 1.5 diameter or bar screen or use none at all. If you insist on doing wet leaves, like I do, keep a supply of small branches at hand to clear the clog. Belts, go to a automotive/hardware store or farm supply. If your counter man is worth his salt, he can help you. I get mine there and only pay a couple of bucks for the belt. It is flails I need. Anyone have a line on flails? Id like to get an entire new drum if I could - I am on number three!
Hi, I recently obtained a Super Tomahawk with a 8 HP Koeler engine. It will not chip. It appears that the cutter blades have a space of about 3/16" between them. This seems much too high. I removed the chute and the blade welded to the chute seemed very short as if some previous owner had ground it away when attempting to get it sharp.
Is it possible to get a reasonable blade clearance by moving the flywheel toward the chipper chute? How about building up the blade by hard-face welding and grinding to fit? I do not have a manual so do not know what the clearance should be.
Any help would be appreciated.
I just got a Troy bilt super Tomahawk from my brother. The engine started well but the belt was dangling between 3 pulleys. My question is does the belt go on the inside or outside of the clutch pulley in the middle? Is this clutch suppose to lock? I've tried it both ways but didn't work. This is a model 11389.
I recently bought a super tomahawk chipper. It has had no maintenance done to it. I started to change the flails around and found a bad bearing. The bearing closet to the large dia. shute. I had a hard time finding bearings. The bearing I did find were close but not the same. I made one of them work but, the end closet to the shute didn't. The main shaft was 1/2 inch to short. I 'm going to make a shaft that is the right length so I can use the other bearings. The other bearings are cheaper than original and easy to find. $23.00 each, compared to $70.00 each. If any one has came across this problem and has a better set up, please let me know. Also I have a place to get belts and they have a website if any one needs it.
I purchased new in 1996, a Super Tomahawk Chipper/ Shredder, model # 47266, 8HP (Briggs/Stratton) IC Standard and have both the parts catalog and owner's manual covering four models: 47266, 47267,47272, and 47285. Troy Bilt went bankrupt in the late 90's and left all us owners scrounging for parts, especially belts and chipper blades. Now I am searching for the bearing, chipper side, part # 1908316. If anyone has a clue, I would like to hear from you. Thanks
I recently aquired a 1988 model Super Tomahawk. The unit has a Tecumeh engine and apprears to be in woring order with one exception - the entire clutch assembly is missing. From a copy of the parts manual, I can make or buy parts to complete the clutch. However, I need specific center to center hole measurement (clutch leaver and idler pivot assembly) and idler pully diameter. Can anyone help me out? Please let me know via e-mail - Thanks
I need a new motor for my Troybilt super tomahawk chipper-shredder. The motor is no longer available. It's an 8 hp Briggs and stratton. Anyone have a model number of an engine that will work. There are so many model numbers available. I'd hate to just keep buying motors till I get one that will fit.I called a lot of places and no one will suggest a replacement model number. Thanks, Richard
Hey Dave,
I just bought and fixed up a super tomahawk. It needed both bearings and the shaft. I had the shaft made at a machine shop for 50 bucks and bought the bearings at an implement dealership for 10 bucks apiece. Just take the bearings to any dealership worth their salt and they'll match them up, either by number or measurements.
Hey Mike, Johnny and Mark,
Lots of parts, including manuals, can be had on ebay. I see the belts, shredder flails, screens, and chipper blades for sale on there all the time.
Hey Richard,
Any engine with the right shaft size will work. You might have to drill the mounting points if the holes don't line up. The model number on my engine is 190402. Go to an old small engine shop in your area. You'll know you're in the right one when you can barely make it through the door for all the old mowers and snowblowers laying around. Ask them for a B&S I/C 8 hp engine. Odds are they'll have one or know where there is one. Just don't sue them for 54 million if it doesn't work! :-)
Found an engine that works great. Got a 8 hp Tacumshe (sorry , I can't spell it today). Needed to use shims to get the Pulley on the shaft in the correct location. Other than that, it was a "bolt-on". I did get rid of the brace that was mounted to the head bolts and made a brace for the bottom of the new motor useing 1/4 inch steel. So far it seems to work great. Time will tell of course. Thanks, Richard
I am in desperate need in obtaining an owner's manual for a Troy-Bilt Wood Chipper model # 47258. I called everywhere and because it is an older model no one has it. Does anyone have a copy or can make a copy of the wood chipper owner's manual for me? Please contact me at email@example.com.
I purchased Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder new in 1998+/-. Mod # 47266 with an 8 HP B&S IC engine. The chipper side bearing went out. I have exhausted all possibilities to obtain a new bearing assembly, so I am searching for a good used bearing. The part # on the bearing is 1908316. The stamp on the existing bearing is FL205 KOYO. I need the entire assembly or find someone that can fit a new bearing in the existing assembly. Thank you, george at firstname.lastname@example.com
hey Grizz
Go to any farm equipment dealership worth it's salt with the bearing in hand. If they can't reference it from the part number, they can just match one off the shelf. The bearing they have might not look exactly like your old one( may have a different locking mechanism, etc.), but it'll work. This bearing will not cost more than 12 dollars. I bought two of them from a Case dealer three months ago.
The Tomahawk I bought had two bad bearings and a bad shaft. The previous owner had run it with bearings that had come loose from the shaft. When the bearings come loose, the shaft gets the worst of it. I tore it completely apart and had a shaft made for it for 50 bucks and bought two bearings for 10 bucks each. Make darn sure you lock the bearing to the shaft.
Well, I am another one of those guys that has a Troybuilt Super Tomahawk, but does not have an owners manual or a parts manual. I am in dire need of both; can anyone assist me? I am willing to pay for any help; I have to get this machine up and running soon as fall is right around the corner. It is a model #15012 and serial #W520731. It appears that the previous owner added the 8 HP engine as the serial numbers is a 5 HP series. I am assuming all of the parts are the same though.
I have a W.W.Grinder Super Tomahawk Chipper/ Shredder, model 204. I am sure that it is the same as or very similar to the TroyBilt model that you are discussing.
I have sharpened the active chipper blade and it still will not chip a pencil. Is there some kind of adjustment that is required for the stationary blade (I can't see one but assume that there is one at the bottom of the feed chute)? It seems to have plenty of power (a tecumsa motor, probably 8hp)and it definitely turns up high enough. Any assistance will be appreciated. NeilT
I just inherited a Super Tomahawk, Model 47266 and could also use some help finding a manual and parts list.
I also have a question about mulching. Is there some screen or other add-on I'm supposed to install beneath the blades to keep the material inside the unit longer so it gets chopped more. I see signs that the previous owner might have had something else (I didn't receive) to do the mulching.
I just purchased a 1991 Super Tomahawk in near perfect condition. Didn't know parts were not available though. My flails were only dull on one corner so I flipped them. The chipper blade must be sharpened at a 45 degree angle. That may be why "neilt" can't make his chip. Fortunately, mine came with a new blade and belt but I was able to sharpen the old blade.
I have the manual. It covers 4, 5 and 8 hp models. If someone needs a copy, let me know. I will send it for just what it costs to copy and mail.
Hi all,
Bought a REAL Troy-Bilt Super Tomahawk Chipper Shredder for $300.00. It's a model 47259 and has about 20 hrs. of use on it. My problem is of course NO operator manual or parts catalog. After much internet hunting I found this forum and see that we all have the same problem. I would like to include as much info that I have gleaned and will start here. Mine has a B&S 8hp I/C engine with cast iron bore.
It is Model #195432 means 19 cubic inch, basic design #5,
#4 means Horizontal Shaft,Flo-Jet Carburetor, with mechanical governor, #3 means Ball Bearing,Flange Mounting, with Splash Lube, #2 means it has a rewind starter. Type is #0881 having to do with the preset RPM. The code #91091110 has to do with 91=1991,09=Sept.,11=day, and 10=plant#.
My question to all is this, I am unable to read any serial numbers on the decal anymore and want to know if there are any other places on the machine where I couild recover this # ? I also have a request to make of BINGER to please contact me, so that I can request a copy of any information that you may have on your unit. You are only off by one digit on your model number from mine and I'm fairly sure that it won't make any difference as to part numbers etc.
You may contact me at email@example.com with any requirements that you may have of me. In advance my thanks.
This message is for milton-2007 there are 2 screens available on EBay right now for your unit.
Great source for parts lists:
Here is a link that might be useful: Troy-Bilt chipper shredder parts diagrams
Dave, that was great help for me. Kind new but old to this forum.
Can anyone tell me how to get the Cylinder Assembly off the engine shaft so I can replace the engine? Looks like I have to remove it, to get to the (4) bolts on the side of the motor. I have removed the (2) set screws. I have been soaking everything with penatration lube. It won't budge.
I have an opportunity to purchase a Troybilt Super Tomahawk V model number 11389 with a 8hp B&S engine. The buyer is unable to give age of this chipper/shredder and that concerns me. I am also concerned in reading these comments at this site for I sense that the Troybilt Chipper/Shredder is not the best piece of equipment ... every body seems to be having some sort of problem. And also there seems to be an issue in getting parts. The seller claims the equipment cost $2000 new and is selling for $400. Says it works well. What do you think? I am not mechanically inclined and I might be getting my self into a night mare. Any comments would be appreciated.
Hey Thomas,
I really liked my TB ST and would still own it if I hadn't bought a BCS chipper/shredder to mount on my 715.
I think the super tomahawks were made from the early 80s to the early 90s. Mine was an 84 or something and the new price was close to 2 grand. The newer models have sort of a discharge chute. Mine, being older, did not. It shot the material up to 20 feet. The B&S engine is an I/C and is about bulletproof as long as you keep the oil in it, keep it protected from the weather, and keep the gas sta-biled or seafoamed.
$400 is fair for a perfect unit. I bought mine for $175 but needed to put in new $13 bearings and a new $50 shaft. I also rotated the flails. You can rotate the flails four times before you need a new set. I sold it this spring for $350 after running it a summer.
As far as having problems, I think about half the posts on this thread are trying to find manuals. Troy bilt sold thousands of them and they're getting to be 20 to 30 years old. Of course some machines were misused or used up. You just gotta determine if the one you're considering was a garage queen or a beater.
Good luck. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again if I needed it. Let us know if you need some pointers on how to run it. Put it on a new thread, though. This one is getting a tad long.
I have a 8hp Super Tomahawk 47266.
I am looking for a chipper blade and a bed knife.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I have found a blade here or there on the internet, but no bed knife. Any input on the going rates?
I am also interested in a copy of a manual if anyone has one. Please email me if you might be able to help me out.
If anyone is selling a screen with the bars or the largest diameter holes, I would be interested.
Thanks so much.
FYI Anybody or Everybody - I have a Super TOMAHAWK from Garden Way Model 15012 (Which seems to be different than most I have seen). It DID have a 5 HP Tecumseh engine; however I replaced it with a Harbor Freight (Honda look-a-like)11 HP. The mounting bracket fits any standard Horizontal small engine. Like "Tool Time Tim" it just didn't have enought HP to get it started without being a pain.
I have a Manual printed in 1989 by Garden Way covering the 4, 5 & 8 which I will scan along with the Parts Catalog; however it does not help alot except to make sure you get the right part on e-bay etc. Send request to firstname.lastname@example.com - It won't be by return mail until after I get it scanned.
I have the Chipper Blade problem like others (around here it's $100 to have one made) I LIKE the idea welding with a hardening rod and grinding it down to specs.
I too bought "Flails" on e-bay but they are NOT hardened steel like the orginals and do not last as long.
I will be chipping up a large building soon and let you know how it works
ps Simplicity Belt # 97133 can be added to your list
I just received a troy bilt super tomahawk shredder model # 15015
It is in great shape, but missing the chute part #W20501002pd
Any one know were I can get a new or used one?
Also if any one has any info on were I can get hammers for this shredder part # w20307503
I have a Super Tomahawk, 15012, serial 3303214. I am in need of a manual and parts list. Please contact at email@example.com I will reciprocate with a machinist/mechanic's knowledge about the finer operation of these fine machines. When tuned and set up properly they are a wonderful yard tool. Thanx TFR
The last time I bought flails for my TB CS, they had a Briggs and Stratton name on them. They looked exactly like the TB product. Unfortunately, before I could use them, engine #3 quit. I didn't feel that I wanted to put engine #4 on the machine, but my son in law had no qualms about taking on the project. So, my TB CS lives at his house now.
For folks looking for TB sheet metal parts, based on my experience, you might as well go down to the local fabricating shop and have it made. I had a drum made at a machine shop. Not cheap understand, but it was as good or better than original. AND - at the time, I couldn't get a replacement at any price. A machine shop can probably make a knife too. Just about all the mechanical parts, belts, bearings, engine tune up, etc., can be found in a genuine auto parts/hardware store. Forget looking at the 'fast food' auto parts outlets.
Posted by f6rider (My Page) on Thu, Apr 20, 06 at 22:14
To Art5910
Check Ebay NOW. There are two or three sales for tomahawk flails.
Can you tell me the width of you chipper outlet? 10"?
Can anyone tell me the difference between a Tomahawk and Super Tomahawk chipper?
Yes I can ... My Super had a 10 inch wide frame while the Tomahawk was based on a 8 inch wide frame.
and ... Yes, I can ... Super Tomahawk comes with 8 or 5 HP engine while the Tomahawk came with a 4 HP engine ... oh yes, it had 12 flails instead of 16 like the Super. The Tomahawk also used a 13 X8 inch flywheel/chipper. It was also 10 inches shorter due to a shorter chipper chute. There were of course other differences, but I think that will answer your immediate question.
Thanks ...
I got a Super Tomahawk model number is partially gone but ends in ...7259.
My problem is the engine pulley is out of alignment with the lower pulley and the idler. It's on the key'd shaft with a setup I've never seen before. It's marked "H Plus +" and the pulley has GQ BK40 H FHP.
How does this come off and adjust? Where might I obtain a replacement pulley as this one is cracked?
Also need a cross part number for suitable belt.
Many Thanks. Please drop the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
couple of links that may help some ...
First, good information above. I have a couple of questions. I recently purchased from a neighbor a well used Super Tomahawk, m/n 47251. He had bought it used. Can anyone tell me about how old this model is? I've checked the partsandservice.com site, and they tell me that the chipping hammers for my model are no longer available. Are there any alternatives? The hammers in my unit have been heavily used. They are slightly mushroomed and also gouged in spots. I can try to grind them sharp, but I'm afraid that they will end up being too short, and probably will throw the unit out of balance. Does anyone have any suggestions, or am I out of luck? Please reply to firstname.lastname@example.com, with the NOSPAM removed. Any help is very appreciated.
My friend just purchased a Super Tomahawk chipper model#15012, Serial# 3301259. The problem is, after he got it home, he found the chipper chute is missing. As you know, finding a replacement is next to impossible. Does anyone have a parts book and would be willing to e-mail me a copy of the page showing the chipper chute assembly. I want to try to fabricate one, but don't know exactly what it looks like. I assume in addition to the chute, there is a shear plate inside, which I can't see from a picture. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
My e-mail is; firstname.lastname@example.com
I just bought a 1993 Super Tomahawk with an 8hp B&S I/C engine. Same specs as captturbo mentioned above. The engine runs at 3600 rpm and the drive pulley appears to be the same size as the driven pulley, so the blades should be spinning at the same rate as the engine.
I was given a Super Tomahawk from my Uncle. It started right up and is in great condition. The belt broke and do not have a manual, The model is a 47257. B&S motor not sure on HP. Trying to locate a part # for the belt and a manual. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Super Tomahawk two-in-one chipper/shredder that I was given. It's an 8hp Briggs and Stratton. I don't know the model number but I know it's not been run since at least 2005 but it wasn't used a lot when it was run. My brother has offered to help me get it running but I need to get a copy of an owner's manual for him first. I've not been able to find anything. If anyone can help me know where to find a manual, or would be willing to scan a copy and email it I would be grateful. I also would be willing to pay postage for snail mail. My email is email@example.com. Thank you so much!!
I did find a bit more information to add to the post from yesterday but it doesn't seem to jive with what I've read so far. The model number that I've found is 10635. The Serial number is W805279. I'm not sure if that helps anyone help me find a manual. I looked at a couple of links on this site but it didn't have my model number. Advice?
I see a lot of people are looking for manuals. You can download them by googling "Troy Bilt Manuals & Gravely Parts" or going to URL www.brentchalmers.com/
I was even able to find one for my old (1983, I think) WW Grinders S. H., which was bought out by Troy Bilt.
I gotta tell you that I picked up one of these part#11387 ser#W514396 for $100 and it has been the best $100 i have ever spent on lawn care equip. It needed absolutely nothing except a belt and I wanted to shale the # that I used. It is a Dayco L529 it also has a # of 16R735 under that, I hope that helps some looking for the proper belt.
I have a Super Tomahawk Chipper Model 10941 ST, s/n w812727 with a B&S 8 horse motor which I believe was manufactured in 1985. I have the engine manual but cannot find the chipper manual or even any reference to this particular model. If anyone can point me in the right direction for a manual I sure would appreciate it. e-mail email@example.com
I had a tow bar fabricated for my Chipper that allows it to be towed behind a garden tractor. The assembly closely resembles a photo of the original I found on E-Bay. If anyone is interested in my photos and specs on the assembly, contact me at firstname.lastname@example.com
I bought a WW Grinders (REALLY old) super tomahawk off of Craigslist. Couldn't get the old Tecumseh engine to do more than spit a couple of times (needed carb work obviously), so I gave the engine away and bought a big Baldor 3 hp electric motor that runs off 220 v. Had to fabricate an engine mount. Used the old centrifugal clutch off the Tecumseh, but had to weld an extension on the motor shaft and shim it out from 5/8" to 3/4" (why would anyone put a 5/8" shaft on a 3 hp motor?). Works great. Doesn't whimper when a bunch of stuff is jammed down the hopper. I did find the shredder's shaft had worn (the bearings were fine), so bought a chunk of 1" steel at the local steelyard for $10. Have made a couple of flails out of 3/16" by 1.5" mild steel. They will wear faster, but are easy to make and not that hard to replace. I get better at it as I gain experience. My main gripe about this and similar machines is how horribly they clog with wet or fibrous stuff. I find tomato vines the worst. That's why the shredders come with small-hole and large hole screens and of course the bars. With some stuff, like corn stalks, even the bars clog in an infuriating way. As I lay tossing and turning in the wee hours one night, I had a flash of insight. Next morning welded up something I thought would work, and (drum roll), it worked almost perfectly. I say almost, because now that I have proved the principle, I plan to make a new and improved one. It eliminates the need for any other screens, never clogs, and is self cleaning. I'd love to market this somehow, or share the idea with someone who would know how to do it right.
I was recently given an almost new Troybilt Super Tomahawk.
One problem: Friend had dropped a short 2X4 into the shredder, The shaft and shredder assembly are bent and I can not get the shaft out of the shredder assembly to straighten it. I can cut it out with a torch but will need a new shaft and probably the shredder assembly.
Is there a source for these parts or does someone have spares of these parts I might purchase?
I found a nice parts view for the super tomahawk at sears at http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tools/msg0610580226899.html?87.
Unfortunately they don't have many parts available but if someone wants to look at the parts diagram this is an ok source.
Does anyone know where I can get a new carb for a 5 hp Electric start Techumsen?
I have and will copy & email Owner/Operator Manual for Garden Way Super Tomahawk Chipper/Shredder. Mine is 8HP but Manual covers 5&8 HP models. Not sure of model # but SN is W812864. Purchased in Nov. 1986. Also have October 1985 Edition Parts Manual, as well as Operating & Maintenance Instructions for B&S engine, Model Series 170400, 171400, 190400 & 195400 . I would appreciate recommendations for replacement belt for this model.
I have the 8-HP Model 47266 Tomahawk which I purchased in 1994. I didn't use it much until a few years ago. The flails are still in their original position but they are worn and need to be rotated to a new position (there are four positions before the flails must be replaced altogether).
The machine is too bulky to take in for service so I am thinking of repositioning the flails myself. I have managed to obtain replacement roll pins from Sears and I still need to obtain the right diameter pin punch with which to remove the old ones.
I guess my question is -- how difficult a job is this? Has anyone done this procedure? Do you have any special advice?
Not sure if this subject is still active, but here it goes anyway.
I purchased a Super Tomahawk model 10941, serial W815563.
I'm in the process of removing the old belt and blades, but I've had trouble removing a "key stock" from the front pulley. Any suggestions on how to get this out?
Also, if anyone has a user manual or parts list, please email them to me at email@example.com
Just now saw this reply. If you haven't yet found anything - it's relatively easy, if you sift through all the commercial hype. I found everything I needed for my model and year.
Try the link below, which lists only one exploded view document for your 10941. The purpose of these websites of course, is to get you to order parts from them. Keep your blinders on.
I guess only one link can be added per post, so will include another following this post . . .
Here is a link that might be useful: TroyBilt chipper shredders
Here's another source, with annoying watermarks - but you may get lucky.
Here is a link that might be useful: TroyBilt literature/manuals
The engine in link one you need forget about horse power just buy this one it will have power. At 119.00 its stealice end this month.
You may need few bolts with metric thread to install Lowes allway has what I need in metric just take usa thread bolt with you to get right length.
Almost all small engine that have problem with HF engine solve.
Here is a link that might be useful: remember this number # 68120
Hi I just thought I would leave an update the predator engine from Harbor freight works excellent. I had to put a spacer plate between the engine and original frame. Also, I built a mounting bracket for the engine to set on. The only question I have. If somebody has an answer is, I can't get the tension adjustment, adjusted correctly, to stay in the locked position. Everything is put together according to the manual. Does anybody have any recommendations on the tension adjustment? Thanks
If anyone needs parts and/or owner manuals for Troybilt Tomahawk Chipper Shredders, there is a plethora of information for Troybilt Tomahawks built between 1988 to 1999 that can be downloaded here: http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/42653288/file.html
The download is an iso-image file, 133MB in size. Once the file is downloaded, simply right-click on the file and open it with your disk burning software and burn the file to a CD. If you don't have disk burning software, ImgBurn is a free disk burning software that will work well. Once you burn the CD you will find about 20 pdf manual iterations on your disk. If you need Tomahawk parts or owner manuals, there is a good chance you will find the information you need on the burned CD.
Hi I have a Tomahawk 15014S looking for a part number 11661. It is a shim does anybody know the specs on this shim and where I could find one. This shim is internal, and is on the main pulley shaft. I think it is missing I am getting a grinding sound on start up.
Thanks CWC777
Hi I have a troy built Tomahawk, I think it was a 5 engine. I have completely rebuilt it and put a new engine on it. Engine runs great. It chips and shreds but on startup when I engage it a grinding noise starts. It clears up as the unit hits maximum RPM. I'm thinking when I rebuilt it. Somehow I left the 3 shims out or 1 shim not quite sure if that be the case. Would you happen to know what size shim it takes and what side the shims go on and how you can make sure you have the proper clearance before reinstalling the motor back on. I hope somebody can help, or you can refer me to somebody who can. Thanks
I have the Troy-built Tomahawk 1991 8hp chipper/shredder and i need the following parts for the cylinder assembly .....part #: 97129 Roll Pin, 3/16" x 3/4" qty (4) ....Part #: W20307503 Cylinder Hammer qty (16) ...... part #: W203010013 Spacer (short) qty (8) ....... part #: W203010012 Spacer (long) qty (4) ........ part #: W203010014 Spacer (long, with role pin hole) qty (4) ANYONE WHO HAS THESE PARTS OR CAN SUGGEST HOW TO GET THEM - PLEASE SEND EMAIL TO email@example.com thank you


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ESCONDIDO: City rec programs might go to YMCA, Boys & Girls Club
The YMCA and the Boys & Girls Club could take over all or part of Escondido's recreation programs under potential agreements that city officials have been discussing this spring with the two nonprofits.
Privatizing recreation would eliminate significant duplication of effort and might mean survival for many programs threatened by budget cuts because they would become less expensive to operate, city officials said Tuesday.
"There's a lot of overlap between what we do and they do, and they do it more effectively and for less money," said Mayor Sam Abed, noting that employees of the two nonprofits are paid less and don't get pensions.
But critics said it would be inappropriate to allow private organizations to operate the city's municipal pools, skatepark and other taxpayer-funded facilities.
They also questioned whether the change would create unequal access to recreation programs, noting that the two nonprofits charge membership fees.
"The concept of privatization itself is not inherently wrong, but it's a problem to eliminate subsidized recreation," said Mel Takahara, spokesman for Future of Escondido, a group of 120 community leaders and residents. "When the city's in charge, you can set prices at an affordable level for people."
The possible privatization of city recreation comes after the City Council decided this spring to eliminate roughly $800,000 in annual subsidies for the programs. Council members say they can no longer afford to subsidize recreation because tax revenue has plummeted during the economic downturn and employee pension costs have continued to rise.
Other cities have explored similar partnerships recently, including Carlsbad and Lemon Grove.
It's difficult to compare fees between the city and the nonprofits because all three operate dozens of programs that vary in structure.
But in general, the Y and Boys & Girls Club charge more than the city's current fees. Their fees are roughly the same as what city fees will be when they jump an average of 25 percent July 1.
The Y, formally known as the Palomar Family YMCA, plans to continue requiring memberships, which are $70 per year for young people and $42 per month for adults, said Cark Skaja, chairman of the Y's board.
But Skaja said low-income families would be eligible for scholarships, and the Y would augment its fundraising efforts if the nonprofit needs more money to cover those scholarships.
"We want to serve the community and make sure no kids get left behind," said Skaja. "We have never turned anyone away, and we will rise to the challenge if there is one."
Skaja said the Y, which has about 9,000 members, is ready to take over as much or as little of the city's rec programs as requested. But he said a larger portion would be better than just taking over the programs most heavily subsidized by the city, such as the Tiny Tots day care program, the pools and the skatepark.
"We don't want them to just give us their money-losing programs," Skaja said.
The Y might hire some or all of the 15 full-time and 150 part-time city recreation employees, Skaja said. But he stressed that such discussions were premature because the possible partnerships were still in the early exploration stage.


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