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When Metallica announced last June that they had recorded a new album with Lou Reed, fans of both artists responded with confusion, if not outright despair. But while this partnership may seem random, the two actually have a lot in common. Both abuse electric guitars; both like to wear black and be photographed by Anton Corbijn; both have indulged in lifestyles that threatened to become death-styles; both have a habit of alienating their fans by taking ill-advised stylistic detours and, by extension, both are considered by many to be class-A assholes. But while these surface similarities may provide the two parties with small-talk/commiseration fodder when, say, hanging backstage before murdering "Sweet Jane" at a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, they're pretty miserable grounds for a full-on collaboration, especially one that spans two discs and close to 90 minutes. And yet, showing their usual proud disregard for their fans and music in general, Lou Reed and Metallica have gone and made Lulu anyway.
It'd be one thing if Lulu were being slipped into the marketplace as a low-profile curiosity, akin to a 90s-era spoken word album with some alt-rocker screeching away in the background. Instead, it's being trumpeted by its makers as a historic event. In a now-infamous interview, James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich recall bursting into tears of pride during the recording sessions, while in another Reed grinningly insists that Metallica has "pushed me to the best I've ever been." It was one of many unintentional jokes in an online promo campaign that effectively ruined Lulu's chances of being taken seriously before it was even heard.
Lulu was first previewed with an especially repellent 30-second tract of "The View" that confirmed everyone's worst suspicions of the project-- namely, that Reed's crotchety, atonal poem-rants would be wholly incompatible with Metallica's fidgety riffage. The clip's most prominent lyric ("Throw it away/ For worship someone who actively despises you!") seemed to mock both artists' most forgiving fans for even clicking on the link. By the time "The View" was released in its full, five-minute ghastliness-- with Hetfield variously professing himself to be a table, a 10-story building and, possibly, the premier member of Philly hip-hop band the Roots-- the Internet had all the evidence it needed to preemptively crown Lulu the Worst Album of All Time.
But even in that regard, Lulu disappoints. For all the hilarity that ought to ensue here, Lulu is a frustratingly noble failure. Audacious to the extreme, but exhaustingly tedious as a result, its few interesting ideas are stretched out beyond the point of utility and pounded into submission-- the average song length clocks in at eight excruciating minutes. Still, it's kind of fascinating to hear two veteran entities trying like hell to excavate common ground that simply does not exist.
Lulu's source material-- a series of transgressive plays by Munich playwright Frank Wedekind about a stripper who becomes a social-climber only to wind up a prostitute-- allows Reed to set a familiar Berlin scene with "Brandenburg Gate", a would-be anthem that, with a less torturous delivery, could almost pass for something from Reed's mid-1970s songbook. Instead, we get Hetfield belting out its "small town girl" chorus like he's trying to summon the next featured attraction at a strip club.
Reed's influence also feels responsible for the ominous, omnipresent Velvets-esque string textures and a couple of curiously avant guitar solos from Kirk Hammett (see: "Dragon"). Metallica, meanwhile, inspired Reed to come up with at least one perfectly metal lyric ("I cry icicles in my stein"), while getting him to update the S&M suggestiveness of "Venus in Furs" to the bloodlusty standards of the modern-day headbanger. However, a great deal of Lulu's songs find Reed graphically describing violent, depraved sexual trysts from the female protagonist's perspective, and with lines like "I will swallow your sharpest cutter like a colored's man dick" in abundance, some dyed-in-the-denim Metallica fans could be squirming like they did when Kirk started wearing eyeliner.
Unfortunately, these small surprises can't save Lulu from the much larger issue that lies directly at its core: For most of the record, Lou Reed and Metallica barely sound like they're on the same planet, let alone in the same room; the album works neither as powerful rock music nor as an impressionistic soundtrack to a spoken narrative. Reed's monotone remains unresponsive to what's happening around him whether the occasion calls for full-torque thrash ("Mistress Dread") or dreary acoustic mood pieces ("Little Dog"), while Lars Ulrich's flailing fills during the breakdowns on "Pumping Blood" and "Frustration" are essentially drummerese for "what the fuck do I do with this?" But for all of Reed's meandering, a-melodic verbosity, it's actually Hetfield who sounds the most out of place here; beyond his self-parodic turn on "The View", he contributes intrusive back-ups to the bar-band slog "Iced Honey" and the maddeningly repetitious "Cheat on Me" like someone in the back row of a class photo trying to mug his way into the frame.
Remarkably, there is actually a light at the end of this dark, despairing tunnel-- and, not coincidentally, it's the song least connected to the Lulu concept. Clocking in at an absurd 19 minutes, "Junior Dad" is-- like almost everything else here-- too long by half, with its last eight minutes taken up by an extended string drone. But, despite its laughable title, "Junior Dad" possesses everything the rest of Lulu doesn't: a graceful, affecting melody, a logical arrangement, a pretty guitar line, a sympathetic narrator and, most importantly, a true synthesis of each principal's strengths, outfitting a Reed streetwise hymn with Metallica's stadium-sized crunch; it's like "Street Hassle" refashioned as a Black Album power ballad. "Junior Dad" is a song that seemingly does the impossible: it momentarily redeems the idea of a Lou Reed/Metallica collaboration as a plausible, potentially fruitful concept. But its late appearance also serves as a potent reminder of just how terribly that concept is executed on everything that precedes it.
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a huge ass player who will do anything and everything to get his hands on a girl. some of which includes sending nasty picture. also see: manwhore
"your such a mac!"
作者 your welcome Mackenzie Karl :) 2011年9月28日
Someone who is sly and cunning.
Jerry: Jimmy has alot of Mac.
Nick: He does, you see the way he got into the ball game for free.
Nick: He does, you see the way he got into the ball game for free.
作者 SsTtUu 2011年4月09日
MAC = Magnetic Acceleration Cannon
Cortana fired three successive rounds out the MAC gun straight into the covenant frigate. Its shields faded, died, and the last round ripped a massive hole through the floating behemoth.
作者 evan schmidt 2007年6月01日
A character in the Cartoon Network show, Foster's Home for Imaginary friends. Mac is eight years old and comes to visit his imaginary friend, Bloo, every day because his mom made him give Bloo up. Mac is pretty much the coolest eight year old ever.
Mac is the coolest eight year old kid ever.
作者 ms.insomniac 2006年7月28日
popular line of cosmetics especially for society's creme de la creme and celebrities
gonna run over to the mac counter for some eyeliner
作者 jane doe 2005年3月18日
A very obnoxious dickhead who creeps on little girls.
Girl 1: I just met a kid named Mac.
Girl 2: Stay away from him. He will rape you.
Girl 2: Stay away from him. He will rape you.
作者 Billy Nye2 2013年1月17日
the coolest biggest pimp in the world
Dang mac, said all the girls, you are a pimp
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I applied online. The process took 5 days – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's.
Applied online, they got back to me within 5 days. Scheduled an interview for the next week. Started off with the basic, 'So tell me about yourself'. Manager was very nice and seemed interested but couldn't offer me a job because they filled the position the day before but told me to keep in touch.
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Easy hire process through workforce 1. They are willing to take on entry level positions. As long as you are friendly, willing to learn, and an overall dependable employee, they give you a chance. They ask a few questions about your life goals and what you love most about customer service jobs. They want to know that you are dependable like any other job as well.Interview Questions
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I applied online. The process took 3 days – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's in December 2014.Interview Details
Filled out an application online was called two days later to come in for an interview. I scheduled an interview for a Saturday at 2pm. I got there at 1:50 and waited until 3:30 to be interviewed because the manager clearly has no idea how to actually manage things. He was on a conference call and some other guy interview me who had no idea what he was doing.Interview Questions
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I applied online – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's in August 2014.Interview Details
Applied online, called me in 3 days to set up an interview. I interviewed with the general manager and his assistant, then they said they will pass my information on to the district manager and I would get a call from him to interview with. Interviewed with the DM, was very laid back. They are just looking for someone who has a good personality and about great customer service.Interview Questions
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I applied in-person – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's in June 2014.Interview Details
Went to the job fair after seeing ad on Craigslist. Three rounds of typical server questions; how to handle difficult customers, how do you greet your guests,etc. Hired by the GM at the end.Interview Questions
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I applied online. The process took 2 weeks – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's.Interview Details
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I interviewed with the server manager and the general manager after. The server manager asked me about my previous serving experience, asked me how I would sell her a ketchup bottle. If she likes you then she will take you to the next step which is to interview with the GM.Interview Questions
Negotiation DetailsNon-negotiable. It is minimum wage. 8/hr + tips (taxed)Accepted Offer
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I applied online – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's in March 2014.Interview Details
I had 3 interviews. One with a manager from Memphis, one with the kitchen manager, and one with the general manager. I was told I got the job that day.Interview Questions
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Applied for the position online and received a call 3 days later to come in for an interview. First I had to take a written personality test and after I passed I met with the server manager. After several easy questions consisting of my prior work history and hobbies, I then met with the host manager for then same questions. Then after about 30 minutes of waiting I met with the general manager who only asked me questions about my background and finally met with the bar manager who asked me situational questions such as "what would you do if a guest claimed they ordered something else and received the wrong entree?" He then hired me right on the spot. Now this particular Fridays was corporate owned which is why I'm guessing I had to meet with so many managers. Most are franchised owned and most likely more layed back.Interview Questions
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I applied in-person – interviewed at T.G.I. Friday's.Interview Details
Informal interview with GM. Was offered the job the next day.Interview Questions
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HIV symptomsI became very ill last August. My symptoms included chronic vomiting, diarrhea, sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, cold night sweats, and extreme fatigue. I went to the hospital and they tested me for mono and strep throat and both came back...
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University of Miami School of Medicine...A very high white blood cell count in adults is usually indicative of a bacterial infection, but NOT of HIV infection. Read more »
resubmitted form the Fatigue and Anemia Forum: Discordant couple - Risk of HCV transmission (Hepatitis C Virus Infections Among HIV-Infected Men Who Have Sex With Men: An Expanding Epidemic, 2010 )I have been HIV+ about 5 years now and take Atripla as treatment. My CD4 is 650, viral load below... Read more »
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Flat island vs. 2 level... crazy thinking 2 might be better?
I think we are going to take the full plunge for the kitchen remodel this year. For the past few years, we've made various changes - some just temporary to bide us over, some that will be able to translate to our "true" remodel of cabs/layout etc... We have temporary laminate counters right now that dh fabricated - and in doing so, we increased our small island of 27x 48 to 39x48.
What I've found is... I truly do like the way one large level island LOOKS when clean and cleared.
it is nice for entertaining casually. it is nice for sitting at with an activity... or overflow space for diners when the kitchen table is too full...
I don't need the space to "spread out" for projects or papers... I am a few steps away from our kitchen table/banquette that dh & I built... and another few steps away from the barely used dining room table... & I wouldn't choose to do projects there anyway. Kids have an art space in the basement.
I've found that the island is a flat surface MAGNET for all the flotsam and jetsam in the house. We are a family of 6, kids ages 6-13. Every one of us, dh & I included, are guilty of placing stuff down on the island. Once placed, I swear, I think it glues itself down. I've been a broken record "don't put your stuff down here!!!" to no avail. I think I'm the only person who truly cleans off the island. And yes, I do it on a near daily basis.
I don't use the island for regular dinner prep. I do use it for big cooking marathons, but for quickie stuff, I just move to the cleared off perimeter counters.
As contrary as this sounds, as much as I adore open space and light airy-ness, I also enjoy the freedom that boundaries give you. Protected zones as it were...
I've been thinking lately that I might really like an island with the 2nd tier - in an "L" shape on the rectangular island. I know that stuff will continue to be placed down, regardless of how much I harp on it. The raised tier would be a higher boundary... and the reg height counter would be in a more protected area of the kitchen.
I know that 2 tier islands are pass� right now... but perhaps it would work better for us.
Any thoughts?
Anyone willing to raise their hand and say "yes, I still like my 2 tier?" or perhaps, "yes, I thought it would help and it didn't?"
Just fleshing out ideas --- thanks for your help!
Funny - I'm thinking of doing a 2 tier going the other way, with the outer part being LOWER so I can have regular chairs, not stools, for an eating surface. I've always thought stools were really uncomfortable, and the counter seating would be instead of my dining table.
I miss my two tiered peninsula at my old house so much that we are adding one in our kitchen remodel! It was one of the few things I didn't like about this house when we bought it. Our flat counter is also a magnet for everything and it makes me nuts. We also have a bar height table and chairs in the breakfast nook across from the peninsula, so I think it will look better to have the counter raised. I don't worry too much about what is "in or "out" or "on the way out", I go with what works for me and my family.
In our summer house I have a narrow peninsula separating the kitchen from the FR and naturally collects clutter all the time. I'm planning a second level towards the kitchen side so I can use the full depth (to a degree) in the kitchen while hats, sun glasses, keys etc. live at the upper level. Didn't talk to my cabinet guy yet, but I guess it can be done. Maybe you can consider something like that.
The clutter is a function of the traffic flow and location, not the fact that it is single level. It's the most convenient horizontal dumping ground available. Your new kitchen should address the layout deficiencies that allow that to happen. Adding some mud lockers and a mail sorting station with trash can by the family entrance will be well worth it.
I agree with hollysprings that what you need to do is make a PLANNED location for what gets dumped.
Mail? Keys? Other papers? Phones? Create a small cabinet where you can put key holders. A phone charger and holders. "In" boxes...maybe one for each family member. A garbage can or a shredder might be a good idea for that area as well. And then, you need to train yourselves to use it. That's always the hardest part. But, really the issue right now is that you don't have a "proper" place for these things - plan you kitchen area knowing that these are issues that need to be addressed as surely as you need to figure out all the other details of your kitchen.
I wish the solution was that easy. I have places for all the normal things already. Mail, keys, phones etc.. papers for mom, have places in the mudroom right at the entry point. Our flotsam and jetsam is the "incidental stuff" from laziness... a left behind drawing paper, pencils, a tool that should have continued its path to the basement. Daily, but unplanned, life stuff. My kitchen is the central pass-through location in the house. Every path leads to it and from it. Probably in a house with 2-3 people it might not be such an issue, but with 6 everyone's "just 1 thing" being left behind leaves a mess! ;-)
I guess my thinking is that if the lay down spot isn't as convenient - or smaller, it might reduce the issue. ??
but I do thank you for any and all input - it makes me think out the idea further.
Then start a draconian training regimen. Now. Before the reno. Anything left on the island goes into a giant tote and has to be ransomed out. Third time, it can't be ransomed for a week. Fourth time, a month. 5th time, it gets tossed.
And enforce it. Even for you.
All of the training money goes for a special night out while the kitchen is out of commission.
I think the hypthesis that single level encourages clutter is completely wrong. Like 180 degrees wrong.
In my experience, the closer an area of counter is to a wall or other vertical edge, the more likely it is to collect clutter. And this is a very strong & pronounced affect. Look around your kitchen and I think you'll agree that the risk of clutter increases with proximity to a wall or vertical edge, and exponentially so. It follows from this that multi level arrangements are more likely to collect clutter than single level arrangements.
From personal experience, we just removed a wall and decided on a single level peninsula, and we actually discussed the other day how it would be so much more likely to collect clutter if it were multi-level.
That's not to say that there isn't a case to be made for multi level - you can argue that multi level is better because it hides the clutter that will innevitably develop (like soap by a sink, for example), or becuase you'd prefer a higher counter for people to set drinks on here or a table height snack area there, but the clutter argument is agregiously wrong IMHO.
I know nothing about the clutter issues. Holly's ransom solution seems like it could work.
But I am a fan of the two tiered penisula. It allows people to perch standing up during a house party. For a brief chat before they move along. Too many people sit and plant. I think the raised peninsula allows you to have either 1. A two tiered buffet line or 2. A nice standing perch for a quick chat with the cook or prep with a landing for a drink or snack.
The two tier if done right can create a definition of space in an otherwise open area too. I don't believe one level is always the answer.
The incoming stuff will land at the most convenient disposal point. I think it's easier to design for convenience than for potentially training people. The house's flow and people's natural tendencies will always be a problem.
I like two tiered because it hides a working kitchen's mess. To me, that's functional and function trumps. Again, you can tell yourself you will be neat and organized in this new kitchen, but that can remain a struggle and remains to be seen. Sometimes it's better to be more practical than optimistic for better practices in the future.
I also like the way it provides more separation between spaces.
This post was edited by snookums2 on Sun, Jan 26, 14 at 23:38
Love the 2 tier peninsula in my kitchen! Like snookums, the reason being it hides dirty dishes, and ingredients not put away from that big holiday dinner!! My sink is on the bottom level and the top is not a typical 3' deep counter, but only 20" deep, big enough to sit and have a sandwich, yet small enough to keep clutter down. I would definitely have the set-up again.
The cook seems secondary to the arguments for a raised level. I went from a two level to a one level peninsula and I have a 38" deep counter to spread out on now. I don't care about the needs of guests and kids and flotsam and jetsam. I enjoy preparing meals now because I have room to do it.
I wouldn't put the cook's needs last. OP said she doesn't typically need the space for prep. Sure, it depends on the layout and space available. If two levels were to compromise functionality for a cook, any cook, then by all means, choose a more appropriate layout. Of course, it's all about the cook, functionality, first.
This post was edited by snookums2 on Mon, Jan 27, 14 at 0:21
People tend to take the path of least resistance...so, the landing point has been undesirable, but not an *enforced* undesirable, so it continues. And by caving into it, it's going to get worse, not better. I think that with a two-tier, you're creating more areas for that stuff - you might even find that instead of one pile, you create more because there's more corners/angles to "hide" things.
Enact a hard rule NOW, as hollysprings suggested...I think that the ransom box is a great idea. It'll either work, or you'll get extra money for your renovation. Either way works. People don't change habits unless there is an incentive for them to do so. Actually, I'm thinking about enacting a ransom box for myself in the reno since one of our goals is less clutter.
This is one of Newtons laws of physics-foreign bodies will materialize on horizontal surfaces. Barbed wire works but no one ever listens. In any case there WILL be a drop zone.
Things that help:
-make the dedicated drop zone(s) as or more convenient than the place where you don't want things.
-determine that each section of counter has a dedicated purpose. Keep things related to that purpose on it can discourage flotsam. Mixer at baking, tray with S&P and napkins at seating, bucket of utensils next to range...
-have storage for offending items near areas where they appear for rapid removal by the kitchen police
-the more often a counter section is (fully) used for it's given purpose the less likely moss can grow there...things don't end up next to the sink (if they do it is easy enough to swipe them into it and turn on the water)
-Avoid excessively long runs of clear space that do not appear dedicated (this is the problem with many islands and any counter sections longer than about 42" - at about 48 the attraction for near space objects increases ten fold.
- which leads to being realistic about counter needs. Many folks have lived with inadequate counters for years and then overcompensate. I have clients decide what will live on the counter full time. Then we can look at each areas purpose and size. (Do you really need a 70" prep space? Some do but...efficiency counts)
-when all else fails follow Hollysprings advice (or barbed wire)
I absolutely detest my two tiered counter. The upper tier is not big enough to eat at (only 12" in depth), cuts of the eat in dining area from the kitchen, and is a magnet for clutter from anywhere in the kitchen. We will be removing our second tier in our remodel this year, it's wasted space. Good luck to you but I don't think it will remedy your clutter situation. You'd be better off designing some sort of 'organizational' area I think.
Like you, we are a family of six with four kids ages 8-14. I also have the counter clutter. I have tried all kinds of things to combat it (we have a mudroom with cubbies for each kid, a bulletin board & wall file folders for important papers, keyring holder, etc). Knowing that the counter is a magnet for clutter despite my efforts to move the clutter to appropriate storage spots, it still accumulates there and like someone else said, it's b/c it is the main pass through space/center of our life. In my case, we have a peninsula, so I think whomever mentioned that having the counter adjacent to a wall enables this problem is spot on. I think it would be less likely to accumulate there if we had an island instead. In an effort to at least make the clutter appear presentable, I tried using labeled baskets, in/out type baskets, etc. That just means it stays there piling up until I get around to going through it all.
Part of my problem is that I don't have an office. I don't have a space where I can dump things that need to be put away at a later time. I imagine you are like me, running from place to place,so when your kid empties out his school papers, art projects, etc, you might not have time *in that moment* to properly put things where they need to go.
I've decided that in my *new* kitchen, when I get around to finally renovating, I will have a dedicated command center space (I do have a charging station, a shredder, etc, but these are not all in one dedicated spot). I'm actually taking a corner of my kitchen (not anywhere near the active part of the kitchen but off to the side of where my table is) and building a charging station, drawers w/hanging folders, shelving, spot for mail/shredder, cubbies for baskets to toss the "ransomed" items labeled with each child's name, etc. I'm fortunate that I think I can carve out a pretty good space and being in the heart of my home, the kitchen area, but not in my cooking/prep side of the kitchen, I think it will move this clutter zone off my counter. While I don't WANT a clutter zone, I think I can better deal with it if it is not on my COUNTER. I do use my peninsula a lot for food prep. My kids will help me make dinner and use that space for cutting veggies, etc. Or dh will use that counter when cutting meat or other messy things and DRIVES ME CRAZY b/c he doesn't move anything out of his way, sometimes splattering juices. But that's another story LOL.
I can't tell you whether a flat vs two tier counter will be better but I do understand your dilemma. Unfortunately, the ransom bag wouldn't necessarily work for me b/c most of the crap on my counter is stuff my kids don't even care about, just random papers, etc. Or it's stuff that doesn't stay long, but when moved, gets replaced by something else anyway. Best of luck finding a solution!
It sounds like this is an issue many of us think about.
Perhaps we should just invent a clutter zapper!
I liked what jakuvall (?) had to say about making each space's purpose clear. I just want the island area to clearly belong to the kitchen food area vs. the "just passing through" area...
Thanks for all your input. I like to look at each issue from a million different angles --- and nothing drives dh more insane than me hashing it out ;-)
Like Holly says, it is a function of how you live. My stuff collects on the desk/tiny office which is not in the kitchen but slightly outside of the main kitchen. If the stuff lands on the island, we just move the stuff to the desk.... We don't ask anyone to claim it, we just move it...
Dropped junk does not bother me since I don't need the surface to cook. I clear it daily but it does not impede the 'kitchen function'. So it works for us. Many people are taking the kitchen desks out of their kitchens. I actually like having a designated drop zone/kitchen office area because it keeps the junk out of the kitchen.
If your habits do not change, the stuff will get dropped on the upper zone of the island just like they do in many homes I walk into. When I see that in people's homes, it just seems like a huge waste of real estate where the upper level is a huge planned drop zone and nothing else.
I like my way where there is a 'planned' drop zone slightly outside of the kitchen. Most people need a safety net. To me a well planned drop zone is a safety net for those of us that cannot be so disciplined about everything. I pick up my stuff at the end of the day, but it allows me the latitude to leave it there couple days without driving me nuts or getting in the way of cooking.
Most homes that manage to keep the kitchen counter clear have a near by office/desk/drop zone where there is a pile of junk/paper. I know very few families that can live pile-free.
Fourkids4us: one of my first remodels was to cut up my gigantic pantry into a smaller pantry and a kitchen desk/office/command center. This was the best thing I did. I made sure that I kept that functionality when I did the big remodel. I can't imagine not having a command center near the kitchen in a family home!
Every bi-level island I've seen has been just as much of a clutter magnet as any other, if not more so. And then you lose the wide expanse of space for rolling out dough, etc.
I find having a single level makes it easier to clear stuff off and wipe it down, no nooks and crannies!
I like my way where there is a 'planned' drop zone slightly outside of the kitchen.
We were just talking about this last night. We live in an open loft-type apartment. We have a new huge island, but it is IN the kitchen/dining room/living room. We have plenty of space though and agreed we should put some kind of table or desk near but not in that same space that would function as you called it as a "designated drop zone". I just want the kitchen island free of non-kitchen stuff. If we can manage to, we'll put it around the corner in the very very long and wide hallway, with a recycling bin and maybe the shredder, but only if I can figure out a way to hide them.
I'd hate to give up the expanse of a single level. I think single level invites more participation at that space. Unfortunately, that participation includes debris. In fact the way we live, when we met with the architect last year prior to starting our re-model he asked what kind/type of style we were looking for. I turned swept my arm around the place and told him we were looking for a distinctive style. Not pretentious mind you, but with a touch of the French. After due deliberation I came up with the perfect term. Our style is "Debris".
I'd make a game out of it. Each person gets a different colored plastic tray or bin. As you are doing the re-distribution of the stuff, place each persons in their own receptacle accepting no responsibility for absolute accuracy. At the end of each week you get to award a small prize to the family member who has the least crap that you have to deal with. The results may surprise you. You are the Mom. You are going to have to deal with it anyway. You may as well try to have some fun...while making your point. I suspect you will get some satisfaction out of quietly pointing to the blue bin when the Blue husband or child asks where such and such is
Kaismom, this is so true and describes so many people/homes I know: "Most people need a safety net. To me a well planned drop zone is a safety net for those of us that cannot be so disciplined about everything. I pick up my stuff at the end of the day, but it allows me the latitude to leave it there couple days without driving me nuts or getting in the way of cooking."
I'm organized by personality and clutter drives me bonkers. Dhâ¦not so much. Prior to kids, we rarely had counter clutter - I was able to keep it to a minimum. Another thing you pointed out is that some people have a main floor office near the kitchen - I don't have a dedicated office, something I really miss, hence the clutter zone now on the counter. Truth be told, the massive dump typically happens when the kids get home from school and when dh gets home from work - at that point, I'm knee deep in managing HW, making dinner and shuttling kids to/from their sports practices. At the end of the day, I'm often too exhausted to feel like dealing with the clutter. However, since the New Year started, I've been doing well keeping on top of it. The chaos of Christmas clutter influenced me!
Jackfre-Thanks for the humor as it was a stressful morning here and I needed to laugh! I actually LOL when I read this: After due deliberation I came up with the perfect term. Our style is "Debris".


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